From nobody Thu Jul 9 04:39:30 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94B571AD2D5 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2015 04:39:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.802 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.802 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7tyyW693AMs0 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2015 04:39:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out2-smtp.messagingengine.com (out2-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D37A31AD272 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2015 04:39:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF65720669 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2015 07:39:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web6 ([10.202.2.216]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 09 Jul 2015 07:39:25 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=skunkwerks.at; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:message-id :mime-version:subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=D/z p0i+byF8eKuRLS5bWNFnCUvk=; b=CMdnCn5Vp76cAsAFNzI6TV6h90PbyFII5ho bG+GPTjRu5J4zL30fh3cblgE/CEL3dcy+hSbmszJftWH1yMlSOvuOt+SVs15DRCd LX32ISHa1muCSP12J1PtoxPrDtQkEzkKFhYMyYYrDhFk7oI9L+1CyCEEYeT7k4nX QjK3OfAY= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=D/zp0i+byF8eKuRLS5bWNFnCUvk=; b=RWqBf e6lecSwk3ZSt/FW+BUNhkElyRLM/+ts7bw58DhetCsH0I0B1nRtlfCYZRAE0kd24 rT+5l7/r1yEU6OpFNYJOQ8SG5M6fBgln1minjx1XTjhONt2e9NjObyJFJTbuiUGH 2X9E458L3IL+1kNPoi4s91+R2txa1F5seCepxg= Received: by web6.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id AAEE744217; Thu, 9 Jul 2015 07:39:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1436441965.681815.319352873.70CB63EA@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: KmVHEulUsPXteiL7aYSJIbbR6iW/PkcEhjSkxtLpB3Qs 1436441965 From: Dave Cottlehuber To: ppsp@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-bfc056ae Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2015 13:39:25 +0200 Archived-At: Subject: [ppsp] IETF93 Prague meeting X-BeenThere: ppsp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: discussing to draw up peer to peer streaming protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2015 11:39:28 -0000 Hi all, I don't think there is an official session for PPSP this time in Prague, please correct me if I am wrong. - is there anything further the WG needs to do, or are we ready to conclude now? - are there any people going to IETF93 that would be interested in a casual meetup if there is no official session? I am particularly interested in discussing how we can turn PPSP into a deployed & widely used protocol. NB due to my 3rd child arriving end of May, I am very constrained with travel and will likely only attend 1 or 2 days. Cheers Dave Cottlehuber From nobody Thu Jul 9 05:40:26 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9732F1A8BB0 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2015 05:40:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.466 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.466 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, MIME_BASE64_BLANKS=0.001, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Q326nobDt3Mh for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2015 05:40:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hwp1.icoremail.net (hwp1.icoremail.net [42.99.128.101]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 90BA61A8B84 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2015 05:40:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from PC-201001061KKK (unknown [211.71.74.217]) by Jdweb3 (Coremail) with SMTP id d55wygC3vuYyZ55VrHwYAA--.45380S2; 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charset=UTF-8 Hi all, If we organise some meeting I could follow it remotely. Please keep me update, Thanks you, Riccardo Petrocco 2015-07-09 14:20 GMT+02:00 Fei Song : > Hi Dave: > > I will be there if I could get the visa... > Will contact you then. Anybody wants to join in? > > > -------------- > Fei Song > >Hi all, > > > >I don't think there is an official session for PPSP this time in Prague, > >please correct me if I am wrong. > > > >- is there anything further the WG needs to do, or are we ready to > >conclude now? > > > >- are there any people going to IETF93 that would be interested in a > >casual meetup if there is no official session? > > > >I am particularly interested in discussing how we can turn PPSP into a > >deployed & widely used protocol. > > > >NB due to my 3rd child arriving end of May, I am very constrained with > >travel and will likely only attend 1 or 2 days. > > > >Cheers > >Dave Cottlehuber > > > >_______________________________________________ > >ppsp mailing list > >ppsp@ietf.org > >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ppsp > _______________________________________________ > ppsp mailing list > ppsp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ppsp > --001a11c3844c00c89a051a738497 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,

If we organise so= me meeting I could follow it remotely.

Please keep me update,<= br>
Thanks you,
Riccardo Petrocco

2015-07-09 14:20 GMT+02:00 Fei Song= <fsong@bjtu.edu.cn>:
Hi D= ave:

I will be there if I could get the visa...
Will contact you then. Anybody wants to join in?


--------------
Fei Song
>Hi all,
>
>I don't think there is an official session for PPSP this time in Pr= ague,
>please correct me if I am wrong.
>
>- is there anything further the WG needs to do, or are we ready to
>conclude now?
>
>- are there any people going to IETF93 that would be interested in a >casual meetup if there is no official session?
>
>I am particularly interested in discussing how we can turn PPSP into a<= br> >deployed & widely used protocol.
>
>NB due to my 3rd child arriving end of May, I am very constrained with<= br> >travel and will likely only attend 1 or 2 days.
>
>Cheers
>Dave Cottlehuber
>
>_______________________________________________
>ppsp mailing list
>ppsp@ietf.org
>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ppsp
_______________________________________________
ppsp mailing list
ppsp@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ppsp

--001a11c3844c00c89a051a738497-- From nobody Thu Jul 9 15:41:07 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A061C1A1BFA; Thu, 9 Jul 2015 15:41:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.912 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.912 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lOMbikFvu6lG; Thu, 9 Jul 2015 15:40:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4202B1A1B40; Thu, 9 Jul 2015 15:40:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id AA249181B3D; Thu, 9 Jul 2015 15:37:20 -0700 (PDT) To: ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org X-PHP-Originating-Script: 1005:ams_util_lib.php From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Message-Id: <20150709223720.AA249181B3D@rfc-editor.org> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015 15:37:20 -0700 (PDT) Archived-At: Cc: drafts-update-ref@iana.org, ppsp@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [ppsp] RFC 7574 on Peer-to-Peer Streaming Peer Protocol (PPSPP) X-BeenThere: ppsp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: discussing to draw up peer to peer streaming protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2015 22:41:04 -0000 A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 7574 Title: Peer-to-Peer Streaming Peer Protocol (PPSPP) Author: A. Bakker, R. Petrocco, V. Grishchenko Status: Standards Track Stream: IETF Date: July 2015 Mailbox: arno@cs.vu.nl, r.petrocco@gmail.com, victor.grishchenko@gmail.com Pages: 85 Characters: 208360 Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None I-D Tag: draft-ietf-ppsp-peer-protocol-12.txt URL: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc7574 DOI: http://dx.doi.org/10.17487/RFC7574 The Peer-to-Peer Streaming Peer Protocol (PPSPP) is a protocol for disseminating the same content to a group of interested parties in a streaming fashion. PPSPP supports streaming of both prerecorded (on- demand) and live audio/video content. It is based on the peer-to- peer paradigm, where clients consuming the content are put on equal footing with the servers initially providing the content, to create a system where everyone can potentially provide upload bandwidth. It has been designed to provide short time-till-playback for the end user and to prevent disruption of the streams by malicious peers. PPSPP has also been designed to be flexible and extensible. It can use different mechanisms to optimize peer uploading, prevent freeriding, and work with different peer discovery schemes (centralized trackers or Distributed Hash Tables). It supports multiple methods for content integrity protection and chunk addressing. Designed as a generic protocol that can run on top of various transport protocols, it currently runs on top of UDP using Low Extra Delay Background Transport (LEDBAT) for congestion control. This document is a product of the Peer to Peer Streaming Protocol Working Group of the IETF. This is now a Proposed Standard. STANDARDS TRACK: This document specifies an Internet Standards Track protocol for the Internet community, and requests discussion and suggestions for improvements. 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The RFC Editor Team Association Management Solutions, LLC From nobody Thu Jul 9 17:39:22 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4317C1A1A59 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2015 17:39:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.211 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.211 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LJCn7AE2z57k for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2015 17:39:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9FAAE1A1A3B for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2015 17:39:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml404-hub.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id BUZ86728; Fri, 10 Jul 2015 00:39:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from NKGEML402-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.98.56.33) by lhreml404-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.218) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.158.1; Fri, 10 Jul 2015 01:39:15 +0100 Received: from NKGEML501-MBS.china.huawei.com ([169.254.2.233]) by nkgeml402-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.98.56.33]) with mapi id 14.03.0158.001; Fri, 10 Jul 2015 08:39:08 +0800 From: "Huangyihong (Rachel)" To: fsong , Dave Cottlehuber , "ppsp@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [ppsp] IETF93 Prague meeting Thread-Index: AQHQujv0FotsAJqXO0y/doCibbVWc53TFYYLgADHVZA= Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 00:39:07 +0000 Message-ID: <51E6A56BD6A85142B9D172C87FC3ABBB86374ED5@nkgeml501-mbs.china.huawei.com> References: <1436441965.681815.319352873.70CB63EA@webmail.messagingengine.com> <2015070920201232805744@bjtu.edu.cn> In-Reply-To: <2015070920201232805744@bjtu.edu.cn> Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.138.41.144] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ppsp] IETF93 Prague meeting X-BeenThere: ppsp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: discussing to draw up peer to peer streaming protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 00:39:20 -0000 Hi, Dave and Fei, I'll definitely be there too. So count me in^^. BR, Rachel > -----Original Message----- > From: ppsp [mailto:ppsp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Fei Song > Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 8:20 PM > To: Dave Cottlehuber; ppsp@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [ppsp] IETF93 Prague meeting >=20 > Hi Dave: >=20 > I will be there if I could get the visa... > Will contact you then. Anybody wants to join in? >=20 >=20 > -------------- > Fei Song > >Hi all, > > > >I don't think there is an official session for PPSP this time in > >Prague, please correct me if I am wrong. > > > >- is there anything further the WG needs to do, or are we ready to > >conclude now? > > > >- are there any people going to IETF93 that would be interested in a > >casual meetup if there is no official session? > > > >I am particularly interested in discussing how we can turn PPSP into a > >deployed & widely used protocol. > > > >NB due to my 3rd child arriving end of May, I am very constrained with > >travel and will likely only attend 1 or 2 days. > > > >Cheers > >Dave Cottlehuber > > > >_______________________________________________ > >ppsp mailing list > >ppsp@ietf.org > >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ppsp > _______________________________________________ > ppsp mailing list > ppsp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ppsp From nobody Mon Jul 13 08:12:56 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 293541B2B93 for ; 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Thu, 16 Jul 2015 14:09:30 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=skunkwerks.at; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=8MfRyTSFv5xHJUaIapdnKaJnL+8=; b=UFBE3C zv6pDtfCyAGxlq/F/5oT1/XYIGOiHe6Y35cVRS40JYmLGVA4aEQ+VmBOJQKfg+N0 jKdv6NV40B6m2gt6Ox9TPmEMj1G112Gaa/gOHmjzZuU6aEtCZb7mm/YfAA1kaSdN cFkMZtNAwbOFec1j+bUs1RoeOTgAqRuaNuEj0= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=8MfRyTSFv5xHJUa IapdnKaJnL+8=; b=tsE4vI/gDiYtXvmEykGKFNrT2m0HoocSQR9WvuHXSezEPQ6 4g0EyKYia1DxNH5lg2LgacIO3fdbqLLanlKlM/S8G3FnKWdbBzeNcd9eqvI9Kxm1 bNBTS5HpN759ysoFZotldjBI3+v9+p/iQaPKDnoCf+ru8watWMuNno6kPWco= Received: by web6.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 41CD141DE6; Thu, 16 Jul 2015 14:09:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1437070170.485532.325575969.399CACCF@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: DFTLjBLoWVs61KGc0geQNoVBEhgoDT/F27V+CJD5i8xv 1437070170 From: Dave Cottlehuber To: ppsp@ietf.org, Martin Stiemerling MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-63a5d8c6 Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 20:09:30 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20150713151350.D086E2F0001@webmail.sinamail.sina.com.cn> References: <20150713151350.D086E2F0001@webmail.sinamail.sina.com.cn> Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ppsp] =?utf-8?b?6L2s5Y+R77yaUmU6IElFVEY5MyBQcmFndWUgbWVldGluZw==?= X-BeenThere: ppsp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: discussing to draw up peer to peer streaming protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 18:09:33 -0000 > - is there anything further the WG needs to do, or are we ready to > conclude now? > [yf]Although the WG doesn't plan to have offical activities in IETF > meetings, it may be a good ideathat the interested people discuss, deploy > and update PPSP specs. We don't rule out the possibility of re-setting > related works in IETF if there are ENOUGH effort on that. > - are there any people going to IETF93 that would be interested in a > casual meetup if there is no official session? Hi all, It seems there are enough interested people to organise a breakout session in Prague. @all I suggest we arrange a meet up / dinner etc on Monday evening anyway. Please reply offline if you are interested, I'll organise something sensible. @Yunfei / @Martin how can I request a breakout room (if this is even possible) for the WG? If this falls under a WG session, I can contact spacereq@ietf.org but I would need Area Director's "rubber stamp" via email. Just let me know what's appropriate & I'll tackle the paperwork. NB note I'll be available Monday & Tuesday only. A+ Dave From nobody Sun Jul 19 05:15:22 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21D221ACD8A for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 05:15:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.701 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.701 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xR6gmM1gYgAA for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 05:15:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7D1801ACD79 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 05:15:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AFF1202C3 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 08:15:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web6 ([10.202.2.216]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 19 Jul 2015 08:15:18 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=skunkwerks.at; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=3LaeotbM92Sw+P/b7ietHKxVBfk=; b=Lx6fPj CgUgEvvb3agCQ+HVSFhZaoKINpa7EyH3P7C50yGmXIZkcteC8nLd6cZYkVxsOa1e Q+QP+tZPxD+vMLU1/8vsbjdDvz3N79MnzJdgRypjOgT0FVOjxGuU1eg4E/Ez7j7a HBkjAvjsA23HSZRdgZKIyoDHdIlsxcZslwNXA= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=3LaeotbM92Sw+P/ b7ietHKxVBfk=; b=EqyXay/tQNMie4bTxU43idNAD6gpPDf680L4cLJYO9b453d G9QKC9yM2jh/Ysws9HD/9wk6GjJierfgtWtUoNb6togNpOA0u5p9UUEQimaXfkf3 7UJ90NA+MOUVwz4/DQKgrQEeGSaHCqbRIaDe57bINuDZfVwHl8m8TCaU7F1w= Received: by web6.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id E997C46B9E; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 08:15:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1437308117.1513014.327423537.0161FCF7@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: dPj+OKkdQb9ql0/OoIfAKPkL284at0WLs8B3HT3M05am 1437308117 From: Dave Cottlehuber To: ppsp@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-63a5d8c6 Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 14:15:17 +0200 In-Reply-To: <1436441965.681815.319352873.70CB63EA@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1436441965.681815.319352873.70CB63EA@webmail.messagingengine.com> Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ppsp] IETF93 Prague meeting X-BeenThere: ppsp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: discussing to draw up peer to peer streaming protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 12:15:21 -0000 On Thu, 9 Jul 2015, at 01:39 PM, Dave Cottlehuber wrote: > Hi all, > > - are there any people going to IETF93 that would be interested in a > casual meetup if there is no official session? >=20 > I am particularly interested in discussing how we can turn PPSP into a > deployed & widely used protocol. Hey folks! Here's our meeting room details, late on *Monday* evening: Request: ietf-mtg-000434 Meeting Name: PPSP side meeting Assigned Room: Karlin III Assigned Date: 07/20/2015 Assigned Start Time: 20:00:00 Assigned End Time: 22:00:00 Given the late hour we have 2 options: 1. find somewhere close to eat beforehand together 2. be efficient with our meeting and finish earlier and eat afterwards I haven't had too many replies back wrt dinner & given the timing we won't need to book. I have 2 places bookmarked & will organise this as soon as we agree on options above. I'm offline / travelling until Monday morning, may the Internet Be With You! MfG/Thanks Dave =E2=80=94 Dave Cottlehuber +43 67 67 22 44 78 From nobody Sun Jul 19 21:54:09 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE451B2F90 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 21:54:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.078 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.078 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, CN_BODY_35=0.339, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DazDwzGHPYEg for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 21:54:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1E71F1B2F8C for ; 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