From turners@ieca.com Mon May 28 12:01:56 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: privacydir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: privacydir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A01621F84A2 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 12:01:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.364 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.364 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.624, BAYES_20=-0.74, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id n+oJGwEG0URm for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 12:01:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gateway04.websitewelcome.com (gateway04.websitewelcome.com [64.5.38.14]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5F5A21F845F for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 12:01:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by gateway04.websitewelcome.com (Postfix, from userid 5007) id 6D21C741FC3B2; Mon, 28 May 2012 14:01:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from gator1743.hostgator.com (gator1743.hostgator.com [184.173.253.227]) by gateway04.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62C2C741FC386 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 14:01:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [71.191.15.83] (port=44927 helo=thunderfish.local) by gator1743.hostgator.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SZ5CI-0004Ak-3i for privacydir@ietf.org; Mon, 28 May 2012 14:01:42 -0500 Message-ID: <4FC3CB94.4020605@ieca.com> Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 15:01:40 -0400 From: Sean Turner User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: privacydir@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator1743.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ieca.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: (thunderfish.local) [71.191.15.83]:44927 X-Source-Auth: sean.turner@ieca.com X-Email-Count: 1 X-Source-Cap: ZG9tbWdyNDg7ZG9tbWdyNDg7Z2F0b3IxNzQzLmhvc3RnYXRvci5jb20= Subject: [privacydir] Closing ML X-BeenThere: privacydir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Privacy Directorate to develop the concept of privacy considerations for IETF specifications and to review internet-drafts for privacy considerations." 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There's been no email to it for about 6 months. spt From hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net Mon May 28 12:08:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: privacydir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: privacydir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44DDB21F8669 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 12:08:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ce8RR1o-M2NF for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 12:08:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 5A83E21F8668 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 12:08:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 28 May 2012 19:08:49 -0000 Received: from a88-115-216-191.elisa-laajakaista.fi (EHLO [192.168.100.101]) [88.115.216.191] by mail.gmx.net (mp072) with SMTP; 28 May 2012 21:08:49 +0200 X-Authenticated: #29516787 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/tG+cC1ALtj6uBlCbIIJwqLGm3CaJPpsuGnwCZNb GAsQgYhv2hFLKG Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Hannes Tschofenig In-Reply-To: <4FC3CB94.4020605@ieca.com> Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 22:08:48 +0300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <319E9F5D-6FF4-4CC6-A733-D3AF974DAF61@gmx.net> References: <4FC3CB94.4020605@ieca.com> To: Sean Turner X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: privacydir@ietf.org Subject: Re: [privacydir] Closing ML X-BeenThere: privacydir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Privacy Directorate to develop the concept of privacy considerations for IETF specifications and to review internet-drafts for privacy considerations." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 19:08:52 -0000 Hi Sean,=20 I think one problem is that nobody on the list may be fully aware of = what they should actually be doing.=20 Do people get documents assigned to review?=20 Ciao Hannes On May 28, 2012, at 10:01 PM, Sean Turner wrote: > Stephen and I are planning on closing this ML. There's been no email = to it for about 6 months. >=20 > spt > _______________________________________________ > privacydir mailing list > privacydir@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/privacydir From turners@ieca.com Mon May 28 12:12:21 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: privacydir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: privacydir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C738321F8699 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 12:12:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.108 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.108 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.157, BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ehLseW1ezRdl for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 12:12:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gateway03.websitewelcome.com (gateway03.websitewelcome.com [67.18.34.22]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EE5921F8692 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 12:12:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by gateway03.websitewelcome.com (Postfix, from userid 5007) id EE7927333BDC0; Mon, 28 May 2012 14:12:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from gator1743.hostgator.com (gator1743.hostgator.com [184.173.253.227]) by gateway03.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E394C7333BD80 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 14:12:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [71.191.15.83] (port=33692 helo=thunderfish.local) by gator1743.hostgator.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SZ5Ma-0008Mg-Kq; Mon, 28 May 2012 14:12:20 -0500 Message-ID: <4FC3CE13.2060008@ieca.com> Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 15:12:19 -0400 From: Sean Turner User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Hannes Tschofenig References: <4FC3CB94.4020605@ieca.com> <319E9F5D-6FF4-4CC6-A733-D3AF974DAF61@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <319E9F5D-6FF4-4CC6-A733-D3AF974DAF61@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator1743.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ieca.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: (thunderfish.local) [71.191.15.83]:33692 X-Source-Auth: sean.turner@ieca.com X-Email-Count: 4 X-Source-Cap: ZG9tbWdyNDg7ZG9tbWdyNDg7Z2F0b3IxNzQzLmhvc3RnYXRvci5jb20= Cc: privacydir@ietf.org Subject: Re: [privacydir] Closing ML X-BeenThere: privacydir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Privacy Directorate to develop the concept of privacy considerations for IETF specifications and to review internet-drafts for privacy considerations." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 19:12:21 -0000 Well we also heard that people weren't entirely sure that they knew what to look for. I think after iad drafts get through the process we can revisit the idea of this directorate. spt On 5/28/12 3:08 PM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote: > Hi Sean, > > I think one problem is that nobody on the list may be fully aware of what they should actually be doing. > Do people get documents assigned to review? > > Ciao > Hannes > > On May 28, 2012, at 10:01 PM, Sean Turner wrote: > >> Stephen and I are planning on closing this ML. There's been no email to it for about 6 months. >> >> spt >> _______________________________________________ >> privacydir mailing list >> privacydir@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/privacydir > > From hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net Mon May 28 12:18:50 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: privacydir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: privacydir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C0BC21F8672 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 12:18:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6kXIUvUdhY8J for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 12:18:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 0992D21F866D for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 12:18:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 28 May 2012 19:18:47 -0000 Received: from a88-115-216-191.elisa-laajakaista.fi (EHLO [192.168.100.101]) [88.115.216.191] by mail.gmx.net (mp010) with SMTP; 28 May 2012 21:18:47 +0200 X-Authenticated: #29516787 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+jbZZWotGjtd6mhLeDXVo+PP1noM/0b9H1CRwBau G2ZNBwZN3dcIVB Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Hannes Tschofenig In-Reply-To: <4FC3CE13.2060008@ieca.com> Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 22:18:46 +0300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <817EA3F8-0E2C-4D98-AF4B-471C6DA2C9AB@gmx.net> References: <4FC3CB94.4020605@ieca.com> <319E9F5D-6FF4-4CC6-A733-D3AF974DAF61@gmx.net> <4FC3CE13.2060008@ieca.com> To: Sean Turner X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: privacydir@ietf.org Subject: Re: [privacydir] Closing ML X-BeenThere: privacydir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Privacy Directorate to develop the concept of privacy considerations for IETF specifications and to review internet-drafts for privacy considerations." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 19:18:50 -0000 Hi Sean,=20 I fully understand that folks are looking for a little bit of guidance = of what they should be considering in their document reviews.=20 I am wondering whether folks on this list think that the most recent = version of http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-iab-privacy-considerations = provides them a little help.=20 Ciao Hannes On May 28, 2012, at 10:12 PM, Sean Turner wrote: > Well we also heard that people weren't entirely sure that they knew = what to look for. I think after iad drafts get through the process we = can revisit the idea of this directorate. >=20 > spt >=20 > On 5/28/12 3:08 PM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote: >> Hi Sean, >>=20 >> I think one problem is that nobody on the list may be fully aware of = what they should actually be doing. >> Do people get documents assigned to review? >>=20 >> Ciao >> Hannes >>=20 >> On May 28, 2012, at 10:01 PM, Sean Turner wrote: >>=20 >>> Stephen and I are planning on closing this ML. There's been no = email to it for about 6 months. >>>=20 >>> spt >>> _______________________________________________ >>> privacydir mailing list >>> privacydir@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/privacydir >>=20 >>=20 From stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie Tue May 29 06:31:51 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: privacydir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: privacydir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF5C721F8770 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 06:31:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.529 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.529 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.070, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mMgZ4MKQ7DWY for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 06:31:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scss.tcd.ie (hermes.scss.tcd.ie [IPv6:2001:770:10:200:889f:cdff:fe8d:ccd2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02B7B21F8723 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 06:31:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.scss.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 454B015396B; Tue, 29 May 2012 14:31:50 +0100 (IST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.tcd.ie; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:in-reply-to:references :subject:mime-version:user-agent:from:date:message-id:received :received:x-virus-scanned; s=cs; t=1338298309; bh=ZK+P/dfRs1KD8e LAv/yinFGrydv2+dWt8OE+xSwhYNM=; b=xg1CQ5MNVuzkPxYYlxeqMm3SZRkuHH lfUbUFgSEnAoQGv0Iuh2qIFxBuhlJ8/9CW2j1Jy2IN42BVZrWuiL/f5uU8iLVMJ4 rIPmOey+PvHCrTe9+mu40AvbW1sQikJb8eXvmDmlo1l7AIsF73D441At5CARLCdH w74/wXX+8z+f2qnlZsOv1AEABYatPCgh3CnEFN5KxUTIYJUB4OTg9+p0y5z3pMr0 R6zGhF5/OLfbcbzwQkfKJTX0CSbKwiplxDBPbDGVw7dSJq7SrHGFqQnTWw48tXYj rEX3Q5QFArdDwyqLHCltD5P4cPKGNOWWXPtbqjzmyr/XktF9o7TFmKag== X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at scss.tcd.ie Received: from scss.tcd.ie ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (scss.tcd.ie [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id sAlMY-q4G9z1; Tue, 29 May 2012 14:31:49 +0100 (IST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:770:10:203:746a:67db:b7ac:1c60] (unknown [IPv6:2001:770:10:203:746a:67db:b7ac:1c60]) by smtp.scss.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 81F51153947; Tue, 29 May 2012 14:31:49 +0100 (IST) Message-ID: <4FC4CFC5.90307@cs.tcd.ie> Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 14:31:49 +0100 From: Stephen Farrell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120430 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sean Turner References: <4FC3CB94.4020605@ieca.com> <319E9F5D-6FF4-4CC6-A733-D3AF974DAF61@gmx.net> <4FC3CE13.2060008@ieca.com> In-Reply-To: <4FC3CE13.2060008@ieca.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: privacydir@ietf.org Subject: Re: [privacydir] Closing ML X-BeenThere: privacydir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Privacy Directorate to develop the concept of privacy considerations for IETF specifications and to review internet-drafts for privacy considerations." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 13:31:51 -0000 On 05/28/2012 08:12 PM, Sean Turner wrote: > Well we also heard that people weren't entirely sure that they knew what > to look for. I think after iad drafts get through the process we can > revisit the idea of this directorate. I agree with closing this list. ietf-privacy seems to have a little more going on and there's no need for two lists. We can revisit it if/when there's a clearer need for a directorate. S. > > spt > > On 5/28/12 3:08 PM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote: >> Hi Sean, >> >> I think one problem is that nobody on the list may be fully aware of >> what they should actually be doing. >> Do people get documents assigned to review? >> >> Ciao >> Hannes >> >> On May 28, 2012, at 10:01 PM, Sean Turner wrote: >> >>> Stephen and I are planning on closing this ML. There's been no email >>> to it for about 6 months. >>> >>> spt >>> _______________________________________________ >>> privacydir mailing list >>> privacydir@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/privacydir >> >> > _______________________________________________ > privacydir mailing list > privacydir@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/privacydir >