From owner-psamp@ops.ietf.org Wed Jul 06 12:07:33 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DqCQv-0002KF-Qy for psamp-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 12:07:33 -0400 Received: from psg.com (mailnull@psg.com [147.28.0.62]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA15554 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:07:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.50 (FreeBSD)) id 1DqCIl-000L1I-J0 for psamp-data@psg.com; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 15:59:07 +0000 Received: from [193.174.154.14] (helo=mailhub.fokus.fraunhofer.de) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.50 (FreeBSD)) id 1DqCIj-000L0w-Ld for psamp@ops.ietf.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 15:59:06 +0000 Received: from [10.147.67.235] (i4dhcp235 [10.147.67.235]) by mailhub.fokus.fraunhofer.de (8.11.6p2/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j66Fx3x02427 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:59:04 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <42CBFFC8.8060609@fokus.fraunhofer.de> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 17:59:04 +0200 From: Tanja Zseby User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: psamp Subject: new version of packet selection draft Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on psg.com X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.2 Sender: owner-psamp@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I submitted a new version of the packet selection draft . Main changes are the recommendation of the BOB function if a hash-based selection is chosen and the definition of Input bytes for a hash-based selection of IPv4 and IPv6 packets. Regards, Tanja -- Dipl.-Ing. Tanja Zseby Fraunhofer Institute FOKUS Email: zseby@fokus.fraunhofer.de Kaiserin-Augusta-Allee 31 Phone: +49-30-3463-7153 D-10589 Berlin, Germany Fax: +49-30-3463-8153 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Living on earth is expensive but it includes a free trip around the sun." (Anonymous) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- to unsubscribe send a message to psamp-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From owner-psamp@ops.ietf.org Thu Jul 07 15:57:48 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DqcVI-00077W-5u for psamp-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:57:48 -0400 Received: from psg.com (mailnull@psg.com [147.28.0.62]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA15291 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:57:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.50 (FreeBSD)) id 1DqcNq-000OsZ-59 for psamp-data@psg.com; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 19:50:06 +0000 Received: from [132.151.6.50] (helo=newodin.ietf.org) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.50 (FreeBSD)) id 1DqcNp-000Ort-Dp for psamp@ops.ietf.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 19:50:05 +0000 Received: from mlee by newodin.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DqcNl-0001HM-DQ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:50:01 -0400 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: psamp@ops.ietf.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-psamp-sample-tech-07.txt Message-Id: Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:50:01 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on psg.com X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=3.0.2 Sender: owner-psamp@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. 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This memo defines 2 sets of metrics to extend these end-to-end ones. It defines spatial metrics for measuring the performance of segments along a path and metrics for measuring the performance of a group of users in multiparty communications. Best Regards Emile ------_=_NextPart_001_01C58390.04E78091 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable dratf-stephan-ippm-multimetrics-01.txt

Dear all,

A new version of the draft is available.

Abstract:

The IETF IP Performance Metrics (IPPM) working = group has standardized metrics for measuring end-to-end performance = between 2 points. This memo defines 2 sets of metrics to extend these = end-to-end ones. It defines spatial metrics for measuring the performance of = segments along a path and metrics for measuring the performance of a = group of users in multiparty communications.

Best Regards

Emile

------_=_NextPart_001_01C58390.04E78091-- -- to unsubscribe send a message to psamp-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From owner-psamp@ops.ietf.org Sat Jul 09 16:43:03 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DrMAB-0007MM-DZ for psamp-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 16:43:03 -0400 Received: from psg.com (mailnull@psg.com [147.28.0.62]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA24065 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 16:42:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.50 (FreeBSD)) id 1DrM3W-000OzM-Dm for psamp-data@psg.com; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 20:36:10 +0000 Received: from [205.178.146.50] (helo=mail.networksolutionsemail.com) by psg.com with smtp (Exim 4.50 (FreeBSD)) id 1DrM3U-000Oz4-Mk for psamp@ops.ietf.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 20:36:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 15230 invoked by uid 78); 9 Jul 2005 20:36:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.11?) (70.32.250.209) by mail4.netsol.inquent.com with SMTP; 9 Jul 2005 20:36:05 -0000 Message-ID: <42D034B9.9080006@andybierman.com> Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 13:34:01 -0700 From: Andy Bierman User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PSAMP WG CC: Juergen Quittek , David Kessens , Bert Wijnen Subject: Stepping down as PSAMP Co-Chair Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on psg.com X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.2 Sender: owner-psamp@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Due to a change in jobs, and an increase in the amount of time that WG Chairs with lots of documents need to spend, I need to reduce the number of WGs that I chair or co-chair. Therefore, I have decided to step down as co-Chair of the PSAMP WG. I think the PSAMP Framework, Sampling, and MIB documents are in great shape and the authors and WG did an excellent job on them. I'm confident the rest of the documents will be just as good when they are done. I'm sure Juergen, Benoit, and others who are deeply involved in both IPFIX and PSAMP efforts will make sure implementations will be able to support both technologies with minimal overlap effort, which (IMO) makes them worth the wait. I will still follow the WG mailing list and try to attend the meetings (this time via jabber though). Andy -- to unsubscribe send a message to psamp-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From owner-psamp@ops.ietf.org Mon Jul 11 17:03:24 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Ds5Qy-0002id-TU for psamp-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 17:03:24 -0400 Received: from psg.com (mailnull@psg.com [147.28.0.62]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA16091 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 17:03:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.50 (FreeBSD)) id 1Ds5Ke-0003X1-Ek for psamp-data@psg.com; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 20:56:52 +0000 Received: from [195.101.245.16] (helo=p-mail2.rd.francetelecom.com) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.50 (FreeBSD)) id 1Ds5Kb-0003WZ-UZ for psamp@ops.ietf.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 20:56:50 +0000 Received: from ftrdmel1.rd.francetelecom.fr ([10.193.117.152]) by ftrdsmtp2.rd.francetelecom.fr with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 11 Jul 2005 22:56:44 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: draft-stephan-isp-templates-00.txt Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 22:56:43 +0200 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: draft-stephan-isp-templates-00.txt Thread-Index: AcWGDyJGOCQ4duyvT/SS2XFTfaI6GAAS6vhg From: "STEPHAN Emile RD-CORE-LAN" To: , , Cc: "Eric Moreau" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jul 2005 20:56:44.0759 (UTC) FILETIME=[0BC5DE70:01C5865B] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on psg.com X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.2 Sender: owner-psamp@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, A New Internet-Draft is available: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-stephan-isp-templates-00.txt=20 Abstract: =09 Flows and packets observations require several levels of aggregations. Currently switchs and routers analyse flows and export flow information using Netflow. Aggregators are starting to use Netflow or IPFIX to collect basic information and to export aggregated information. In this context, this memo presents potential interoperability issues and proposes to standardize a set of templates to facilitate the exchange of flows and measurements information between ISP. Regards Emile -- to unsubscribe send a message to psamp-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From owner-psamp@ops.ietf.org Mon Jul 11 18:12:18 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Ds6Vd-0008Jd-VG for psamp-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 18:12:18 -0400 Received: from psg.com (mailnull@psg.com [147.28.0.62]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA23947 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 18:12:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.50 (FreeBSD)) id 1Ds6Pr-0009CL-Fh for psamp-data@psg.com; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 22:06:19 +0000 Received: from [131.228.20.96] (helo=mgw-ext04.nokia.com) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.50 (FreeBSD)) id 1Ds6Po-0009Bi-Kf for psamp@ops.ietf.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 22:06:17 +0000 Received: from esebh105.NOE.Nokia.com (esebh105.ntc.nokia.com [172.21.138.211]) by mgw-ext04.nokia.com (Switch-3.1.7/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id j6BM0uGl016312; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 01:00:57 +0300 Received: from esebh002.NOE.Nokia.com ([172.21.138.77]) by esebh105.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 12 Jul 2005 01:06:03 +0300 Received: from dadhcp-172019068136.americas.nokia.com ([10.241.58.214]) by esebh002.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6881); Tue, 12 Jul 2005 01:06:02 +0300 Received: from dadhcp-172019068136.americas.nokia.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dadhcp-172019068136.americas.nokia.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6BM6NSi011381; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 15:06:23 -0700 Received: (from david@localhost) by dadhcp-172019068136.americas.nokia.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j6BM6Br0011322; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 15:06:11 -0700 Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 15:06:11 -0700 From: David Kessens To: Andy Bierman Cc: PSAMP WG , Juergen Quittek , Bert Wijnen Subject: Re: Stepping down as PSAMP Co-Chair Message-ID: <20050711220611.GD9782@nokia.com> References: <42D034B9.9080006@andybierman.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42D034B9.9080006@andybierman.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jul 2005 22:06:02.0852 (UTC) FILETIME=[BA308240:01C58664] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on psg.com X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.2 Sender: owner-psamp@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk Andy, Working Group, I would like to thank Andy for his contributions to IETF, and in particular the psamp & ipfix efforts. It has been a pleasure to work with Andy and I am glad that he will stay involved. It will probably not come as a surprise that Andy already informed Juergen, me and Bert in advance. We discussed whether we would need a new co-chair. Since the psamp work is already quite far along, we decided that we would not need a new cochair. Please let us know if you have concerns about this decision, otherwise, I hope to see you all in Paris. Thanks, David & Bert --- On Sat, Jul 09, 2005 at 01:34:01PM -0700, Andy Bierman wrote: > Hi, > > Due to a change in jobs, and an increase in the amount of time > that WG Chairs with lots of documents need to spend, I need > to reduce the number of WGs that I chair or co-chair. > Therefore, I have decided to step down as co-Chair of the PSAMP WG. > > I think the PSAMP Framework, Sampling, and MIB documents are in > great shape and the authors and WG did an excellent job on them. I'm > confident the rest of the documents will be just as good when they > are done. I'm sure Juergen, Benoit, and others who are deeply > involved in both IPFIX and PSAMP efforts will make sure implementations > will be able to support both technologies with minimal overlap effort, > which (IMO) makes them worth the wait. > > I will still follow the WG mailing list and try to attend the meetings > (this time > via jabber though). > > Andy -- to unsubscribe send a message to psamp-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From owner-psamp@ops.ietf.org Tue Jul 12 12:26:23 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DsNaR-0002Nk-N4 for psamp-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 12:26:23 -0400 Received: from psg.com (mailnull@psg.com [147.28.0.62]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA13633 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 12:26:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.50 (FreeBSD)) id 1DsNSd-000ExD-Ax for psamp-data@psg.com; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 16:18:19 +0000 Received: from [195.37.70.21] (helo=kyoto.netlab.nec.de) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.50 (FreeBSD)) id 1DsNSb-000Ewx-EA for psamp@ops.ietf.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 16:18:17 +0000 Received: from [192.168.0.112] (mito.netlab.nec.de [195.37.70.39]) by kyoto.netlab.nec.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3CDF1BAC4D for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 18:18:15 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 18:18:33 +0200 From: Juergen Quittek To: psamp@ops.ietf.org Subject: PSAMP meeting and future work Message-ID: <53D528BE561F50208D0A2A07@[10.1.1.171]> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on psg.com X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.2 Sender: owner-psamp@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear all, I requested a slot for a PSAMP meeting in Paris, but I have doubts that we have sufficient discussion items for the meeting. I am very happy, that we completed the work on Sampling and Filtering Techniques for IP Packet Selection. I will forward this I-D to our area directors and the IESG in the next days. With this step we completed most of the work that we could do independently of IPFIX. Also the IPFIX WG achieved a major milestone. All WG documents are complete and will be forwarded to area directors and IESG next week. Based on these documents we can now start specifying the PSAMP protocol as an application/extension of the IPFIX protocol and the PSAMP info model as an extension of the IPFIX info model. Both documents will probably be much shorter than the corresponding IPFIX documents, but still they require a significant amount of work. Finally, the PSAMP MIB, which is already in a very mature state, needs to be adapted to the protocol and the info model. In conclusion I see work ahead, and certainly also discussions on the protocol and info model, but there are no documents available, that could serve as basis for a discussion in Paris. If you still feel, we should have the meeting in Paris, then please reply until the deadline for Internet draft submissions on Monday, July 18. If no one comes up with a good reason for having the meeting I will cancel it. Thanks, Juergen -- Juergen Quittek quittek@netlab.nec.de Tel: +49 6221 90511-15 NEC Europe Ltd., Network Laboratories Fax: +49 6221 90511-55 Kurfuersten-Anlage 36, 69115 Heidelberg, Germany http://www.netlab.nec.de -- to unsubscribe send a message to psamp-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From owner-psamp@ops.ietf.org Tue Jul 12 13:43:24 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DsOmy-0000aN-8P for psamp-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 13:43:24 -0400 Received: from psg.com (mailnull@psg.com [147.28.0.62]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA18835 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 13:43:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.50 (FreeBSD)) id 1DsOhe-000LtN-7I for psamp-data@psg.com; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 17:37:54 +0000 Received: from [192.20.225.110] (helo=mail-white.research.att.com) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.50 (FreeBSD)) id 1DsOhc-000Lt6-Hs for psamp@ops.ietf.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 17:37:52 +0000 Received: from NJFPSRVEXG2KCL.research.att.com (njfpsrvexg2k2.research.att.com [135.207.21.32]) by mail-green.research.att.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96F13A7BB4; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 13:37:51 -0400 (EDT) content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 Subject: RE: PSAMP meeting and future work Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 13:37:51 -0400 Message-ID: <387B5A9BF31B5D43A2B18DD9F326B8E19154C7@NJFPSRVEXG2KCL.research.att.com> Thread-Topic: PSAMP meeting and future work Thread-Index: AcWG/WuvNhJVuevWQiOvs8NMi0GzBgACaZ2w From: To: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on psg.com X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=3.0.2 Sender: owner-psamp@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Juergen, I see three outstanding issues on the framework and sampling drafts. Items 1 and 2 below can probably be resolved offline, although 3 could benefit from discussion at the ietf. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-psamp@ops.ietf.org [mailto:owner-psamp@ops.ietf.org] On Behalf > Of Juergen Quittek > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 12:19 PM > To: psamp@ops.ietf.org > Subject: PSAMP meeting and future work >=20 > Dear all, >=20 > I requested a slot for a PSAMP meeting in Paris, but I have doubts > that we have sufficient discussion items for the meeting. >=20 > I am very happy, that we completed the work on Sampling and Filtering > Techniques for IP Packet Selection. I will forward this I-D to our > area directors and the IESG in the next days. With this step we > completed most of the work that we could do independently of IPFIX. 1. There are some minor harmonization and updates done between the framework and the recent version of the sampling draft.=20 2. The status of intellectual property (if any) for the Bob hash function needs to be clarified.=20 3. On the sampling draft: although there has been some work behind the scenes on this, there are still some uncertainties about input for the IPv6 hash. It could be useful to talk about this, and try to get some input from ietf attendees with domain knowledge. Nick >=20 > Also the IPFIX WG achieved a major milestone. All WG documents > are complete and will be forwarded to area directors and IESG next week. > Based on these documents we can now start specifying the PSAMP protocol > as an application/extension of the IPFIX protocol and the PSAMP info model > as an extension of the IPFIX info model. > Both documents will probably be much shorter than the corresponding > IPFIX documents, but still they require a significant amount of work. >=20 > Finally, the PSAMP MIB, which is already in a very mature state, > needs to be adapted to the protocol and the info model. >=20 > In conclusion I see work ahead, and certainly also discussions on the > protocol and info model, but there are no documents available, that > could serve as basis for a discussion in Paris. >=20 > If you still feel, we should have the meeting in Paris, then please > reply until the deadline for Internet draft submissions on Monday, July > 18. > If no one comes up with a good reason for having the meeting I will > cancel it. >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > Juergen > -- > Juergen Quittek quittek@netlab.nec.de Tel: +49 6221 90511-15 > NEC Europe Ltd., Network Laboratories Fax: +49 6221 90511-55 > Kurfuersten-Anlage 36, 69115 Heidelberg, Germany > http://www.netlab.nec.de >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > -- > to unsubscribe send a message to psamp-request@ops.ietf.org with > the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. > archive: -- to unsubscribe send a message to psamp-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From owner-psamp@ops.ietf.org Thu Jul 14 22:42:32 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DtG9o-0002fD-Dw for psamp-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2005 22:42:32 -0400 Received: from psg.com (mailnull@psg.com [147.28.0.62]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id WAA01373 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2005 22:42:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.50 (FreeBSD)) id 1DtG2D-000O1d-SV for psamp-data@psg.com; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 02:34:41 +0000 Received: from [61.144.161.53] (helo=huawei.com) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.50 (FreeBSD)) id 1DtG27-000O0P-C8 for psamp@ops.ietf.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 02:34:40 +0000 Received: from huawei.com (szxga01-in [172.24.2.3]) by szxga01-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IJN00CDQE1M2O@szxga01-in.huawei.com> for psamp@ops.ietf.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:39:22 +0800 (CST) Received: from szxml01-in ([172.24.1.3]) by szxga01-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IJN00DEPE1L4X@szxga01-in.huawei.com> for psamp@ops.ietf.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:39:22 +0800 (CST) Received: from c03731 ([10.110.90.77]) by szxml01-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTPA id <0IJN00CJJE8R58@szxml01-in.huawei.com> for psamp@ops.ietf.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:43:40 +0800 (CST) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:35:03 +0800 From: chenhongfei Subject: comments on draft-ietf-psamp-framework-10.txt To: psamp@ops.ietf.org Message-id: <000001c588e5$ce155500$4d5a6e0a@china.huawei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on psg.com X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.2 Sender: owner-psamp@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi all I review the draft-ietf-psamp-framework-10.txt. I suggest that the drafts should be modified content of ipv6. There are two suggestions in ipv6 about this draft. 1: in section 5.2 " (i) the IP header (excluding options in IPv4, stacked headers in IPv6) " I think that field match operation should include extension headers of ipv6. Extension headers are very important part in ipv6. Network manager could get lots of information from extension headers. For example, it could sample by the fragment information in whole flow. And it could analysed if there has action of attack? (fragment information could be get from basic header in ipv4). The other face, it's easy to implement field match by extension headers. Because the TCP/UDP headers are behind the other extension header. TCP/UDP port is the basic rule of acl. So TCP/UDP header is often been arrived by next header field. it could know what kind of extension header including in packet when visit TCP/UDP header. So whatever router and switch could discover which extension header been include in packet easy. 2:in section 5.2 "Router Stare Filtering" there are eight conditions. I suggest two more conditions as follow: (i)no arp/ND found for the packet in Ethernet interface (ii)forwarding to ipv6 over ipv4 tunneling by ipv6 routing table, for example 6to4/Configured/Automatic tunneling Best regards Hongfei Chen -- to unsubscribe send a message to psamp-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From owner-psamp@ops.ietf.org Thu Jul 21 12:01:41 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DvdUT-000330-O0 for psamp-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 12:01:41 -0400 Received: from psg.com (mailnull@psg.com [147.28.0.62]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA12123 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 12:01:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.50 (FreeBSD)) id 1DvdLV-000H59-HI for psamp-data@psg.com; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 15:52:25 +0000 Received: from [195.37.70.40] (helo=smtp0.netlab.nec.de) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.50 (FreeBSD)) id 1DvdLS-000H4n-CY for psamp@ops.ietf.org; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 15:52:22 +0000 Received: from europa.office (europa.office [10.1.1.2]) by smtp0.netlab.nec.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D5CBDC31; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 17:52:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.1.1.171] ([10.1.1.171]) by europa.office over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 21 Jul 2005 17:52:20 +0200 Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 17:52:27 +0200 From: Juergen Quittek To: psamp@ops.ietf.org Cc: duffield@research.att.com Subject: RE: PSAMP meeting and future work Message-ID: <83DE3F713A7EE494D9DE642F@[10.1.1.171]> In-Reply-To: <387B5A9BF31B5D43A2B18DD9F326B8E19154C7@NJFPSRVEXG2KCL.research.att.com> References: <387B5A9BF31B5D43A2B18DD9F326B8E19154C7@NJFPSRVEXG2KCL.research.att.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jul 2005 15:52:20.0983 (UTC) FILETIME=[2DD85070:01C58E0C] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on psg.com X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.2 Sender: owner-psamp@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear all, Nick submitted three issues that could be discussion items at the PSAMP session in Paris. Nick, thank you for this and please find comments inline below. However, I came to the conclusion that neither of the three issues listed below does justify having a PSAMP session in Paris. Therefore I cancel the session. As said in my previous message, I do expect that we will have a PSAMP session at the next IETF meeting. Work on the PSAMP protocol and information model can start right now and I am optimistic that we will have our final discussion on them at the meeting in Vancouver. Thanks, Juergen -- Juergen Quittek quittek@netlab.nec.de Tel: +49 6221 90511-15 NEC Europe Ltd., Network Laboratories Fax: +49 6221 90511-55 Kurfuersten-Anlage 36, 69115 Heidelberg, Germany http://www.netlab.nec.de --On 7/12/2005 7:37 PM +0200 duffield@research.att.com wrote: > Juergen, > > I see three outstanding issues on the framework and sampling drafts. > Items 1 and 2 below can probably be resolved offline, although 3 could > benefit from discussion at the ietf. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-psamp@ops.ietf.org [mailto:owner-psamp@ops.ietf.org] On > Behalf >> Of Juergen Quittek >> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 12:19 PM >> To: psamp@ops.ietf.org >> Subject: PSAMP meeting and future work >> >> Dear all, >> >> I requested a slot for a PSAMP meeting in Paris, but I have doubts >> that we have sufficient discussion items for the meeting. >> >> I am very happy, that we completed the work on Sampling and Filtering >> Techniques for IP Packet Selection. I will forward this I-D to our >> area directors and the IESG in the next days. With this step we >> completed most of the work that we could do independently of IPFIX. > > > 1. There are some minor harmonization and updates done between the > framework and the recent version of the sampling draft. It is very unlikely, that we get the drafts back from IESG review without any request for minor changes. And even if not, there will be time to fix minor editorial and harmonization issues after the IESG review. Can someone please list the items that need to be harmonized? > 2. The status of intellectual property (if any) for the Bob hash > function needs to be clarified. This issues has be cleared. The Bob hash function does not make use of protected IPR. > 3. On the sampling draft: although there has been some work behind the > scenes on this, there are still some uncertainties about input for the > IPv6 hash. It could be useful to talk about this, and try to get some > input from ietf attendees with domain knowledge. First, this issue should be brought to the mailing list. I think it should be solved by consulting experts directly. It is not a good approach to schedule a meeting that can only be successful if by chance some experts with special expertise (that is not directly related to PSAMP) will show up. > Nick > >> >> Also the IPFIX WG achieved a major milestone. All WG documents >> are complete and will be forwarded to area directors and IESG next > week. >> Based on these documents we can now start specifying the PSAMP > protocol >> as an application/extension of the IPFIX protocol and the PSAMP info > model >> as an extension of the IPFIX info model. >> Both documents will probably be much shorter than the corresponding >> IPFIX documents, but still they require a significant amount of work. >> >> Finally, the PSAMP MIB, which is already in a very mature state, >> needs to be adapted to the protocol and the info model. >> >> In conclusion I see work ahead, and certainly also discussions on the >> protocol and info model, but there are no documents available, that >> could serve as basis for a discussion in Paris. >> >> If you still feel, we should have the meeting in Paris, then please >> reply until the deadline for Internet draft submissions on Monday, > July >> 18. >> If no one comes up with a good reason for having the meeting I will >> cancel it. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Juergen >> -- >> Juergen Quittek quittek@netlab.nec.de Tel: +49 6221 > 90511-15 >> NEC Europe Ltd., Network Laboratories Fax: +49 6221 > 90511-55 >> Kurfuersten-Anlage 36, 69115 Heidelberg, Germany >> http://www.netlab.nec.de >> >> >> >> >> -- >> to unsubscribe send a message to psamp-request@ops.ietf.org with >> the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. >> archive: > > -- to unsubscribe send a message to psamp-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From owner-psamp@ops.ietf.org Tue Jul 26 11:07:29 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DxR1l-00071r-02 for psamp-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:07:29 -0400 Received: from psg.com (mailnull@psg.com [147.28.0.62]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA26541 for ; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:07:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.50 (FreeBSD)) id 1DxQvU-0004sb-Ia for psamp-data@psg.com; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 15:01:00 +0000 Received: from [195.37.70.40] (helo=smtp0.netlab.nec.de) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.50 (FreeBSD)) id 1DxQvS-0004sF-Ap for psamp@ops.ietf.org; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 15:00:58 +0000 Received: from europa.office (europa.office [10.1.1.2]) by smtp0.netlab.nec.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E3B4DC08; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 17:00:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.1.1.171] ([10.1.1.171]) by europa.office over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 26 Jul 2005 17:00:57 +0200 Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 17:01:08 +0200 From: Juergen Quittek To: David Kessens , Bert Wijnen , iesg-secretary@ietf.org, psamp@ops.ietf.org Subject: Request for publishing draft-ietf-psamp-framework-10 as informational RFC Message-ID: <97EEDB5CD12A57FFA237A207@[10.1.1.171]> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jul 2005 15:00:57.0378 (UTC) FILETIME=[D3F04820:01C591F2] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on psg.com X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.2 Sender: owner-psamp@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi David, The PSAMP WG has finished work on draft-ietf-psamp-framework-10 titled 'A Framework for Packet Selection and Reporting'. I request its publication as informational RFC. Below please find the write-up for this I-D. The I-D was already completed in January but I wanted to wait for the second PSAMP draft (draft-ietf-psamp-sample-tech-07) in order to now submit both drafts at the same time to the IESG. Thanks, Juergen -- Juergen Quittek quittek@netlab.nec.de Tel: +49 6221 90511-15 NEC Europe Ltd., Network Laboratories Fax: +49 6221 90511-55 Kurfuersten-Anlage 36, 69115 Heidelberg, Germany http://www.netlab.nec.de Document Title: A Framework for Packet Selection and Reporting Document reference: draft-ietf-psamp-framework-10 1.a) Have the chairs personally reviewed this version of the Internet Draft (ID), and in particular, do they believe this ID is ready to forward to the IESG for publication? Yes. 1.b) Has the document had adequate review from both key WG members and key non-WG members? Do you have any concerns about the depth or breadth of the reviews that have been performed? An adequate review by key WG members was performed. I do not have concerns about depth and breadth of the reviews. 1.c) Do you have concerns that the document needs more review from a particular (broader) perspective (e.g., security, operational complexity, someone familiar with AAA, etc.)? No. 1.d) Do you have any specific concerns/issues with this document that you believe the ADs and/or IESG should be aware of? For example, perhaps you are uncomfortable with certain parts of the document, or have concerns whether there really is a need for it. In any event, if your issues have been discussed in the WG and the WG has indicated it that it still wishes to advance the document, detail those concerns in the write-up. I do not have such concerns. 1.e) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and agree with it? There is a solid WG consensus on the content of the draft. However, it was discussed whether this document should become an informational RFC or a standards track RFC. 1.f) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarise the areas of conflict in separate email to the Responsible Area Director. No. 1.g) Have the chairs verified that the document adheres to all of the ID nits? (see http://www.ietf.org/ID-Checklist.html). Yes, but the check was done in January when the document was submitted. Since then ID nits changed. The document needs minor changes for reflecting these changes. 1.h) Is the document split into normative and informative references? Are there normative references to IDs, where the IDs are not also ready for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? (note here that the RFC editor will not publish an RFC with normative references to IDs, it will delay publication until all such IDs are also ready for publication as RFCs.) The references are split into normative and informative. The normative references include IPFIX and PSAMP WG drafts. The dependence to the IPFIX drafts is necessary since the IPFIX protocol was chosen as basis for the PSAMP protocol. The PSAMP WG documents reference each other. This implies that all of them will be published at once when the last one is ready. 1.i) For Standards Track and BCP documents, the IESG approval announcement includes a write-up section with the following sections: It is neither a Standards Track nor a BCP document. But anyway, here is the write-up. Technical Summary The document specifies a framework for the PSAMP (Packet SAMPling) protocol. The functions of this protocol are to select packets from a stream according to a set of standardized selectors, to form a stream of reports on the selected packets, and to export the reports to a collector. This framework details the components of this architecture, then describes some generic requirements, motivated by the dual aims of ubiquitous deployment and utility of the reports for applications. Detailed requirements for selection, reporting and exporting are described, along with configuration requirements of the PSAMP functions. Working Group Summary This document was a regular WG document. There is strong consensus in the working group that this framework is an appropriate solution. Protocol Quality The document was thoroughly reviewed by the PSAMP WG. -- to unsubscribe send a message to psamp-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From owner-psamp@ops.ietf.org Tue Jul 26 11:16:56 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DxRAu-0000Wx-M6 for psamp-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:16:56 -0400 Received: from psg.com (mailnull@psg.com [147.28.0.62]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA26946 for ; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:16:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.50 (FreeBSD)) id 1DxR7K-00061V-4D for psamp-data@psg.com; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 15:13:14 +0000 Received: from [195.37.70.40] (helo=smtp0.netlab.nec.de) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.50 (FreeBSD)) id 1DxR7H-00061G-Um for psamp@ops.ietf.org; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 15:13:12 +0000 Received: from europa.office (europa.office [10.1.1.2]) by smtp0.netlab.nec.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31DCFDC49; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 17:13:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.1.1.171] ([10.1.1.171]) by europa.office over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 26 Jul 2005 17:13:10 +0200 Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 17:13:21 +0200 From: Juergen Quittek To: David Kessens , Bert Wijnen , iesg-secretary@ietf.org, psamp@ops.ietf.org Subject: Request for publishing draft-ietf-psamp-sample-tech-07 as standards track RFC Message-ID: X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jul 2005 15:13:11.0068 (UTC) FILETIME=[89407DC0:01C591F4] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on psg.com X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.2 Sender: owner-psamp@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi David, The PSAMP WG has finished work on draft-ietf-psamp-sample-tech-07 titled 'Sampling and Filtering Techniques for IP Packet Selection'. I request its publication as Standards Track RFC. Below please find the write-up for this I-D. Thanks, Juergen -- Juergen Quittek quittek@netlab.nec.de Tel: +49 6221 90511-15 NEC Europe Ltd., Network Laboratories Fax: +49 6221 90511-55 Kurfuersten-Anlage 36, 69115 Heidelberg, Germany http://www.netlab.nec.de Document Title: Sampling and Filtering Techniques for IP Packet Selection Document reference: draft-ietf-psamp-sample-tech-07 1.a) Have the chairs personally reviewed this version of the Internet Draft (ID), and in particular, do they believe this ID is ready to forward to the IESG for publication? Yes. 1.b) Has the document had adequate review from both key WG members and key non-WG members? Do you have any concerns about the depth or breadth of the reviews that have been performed? An adequate review by key WG members was performed. I do not have concerns about depth and breadth of the reviews. 1.c) Do you have concerns that the document needs more review from a particular (broader) perspective (e.g., security, operational complexity, someone familiar with AAA, etc.)? No. 1.d) Do you have any specific concerns/issues with this document that you believe the ADs and/or IESG should be aware of? For example, perhaps you are uncomfortable with certain parts of the document, or have concerns whether there really is a need for it. In any event, if your issues have been discussed in the WG and the WG has indicated it that it still wishes to advance the document, detail those concerns in the write-up. I do not have such concerns. 1.e) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and agree with it? There is a solid WG consensus on the content of the draft. 1.f) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarise the areas of conflict in separate email to the Responsible Area Director. No. 1.g) Have the chairs verified that the document adheres to all of the ID nits? (see http://www.ietf.org/ID-Checklist.html). Yes. The only issue that needs to be fixed is a missing section on IANA considerations stating 'This document has no actions for IANA'. 1.h) Is the document split into normative and informative references? Are there normative references to IDs, where the IDs are not also ready for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? (note here that the RFC editor will not publish an RFC with normative references to IDs, it will delay publication until all such IDs are also ready for publication as RFCs.) The references are split into normative and informative. The normative references include IPFIX and PSAMP WG drafts. The dependence to the IPFIX drafts is necessary since the IPFIX protocol was chosen as basis for the PSAMP protocol. The PSAMP WG documents reference each other. This implies that all of them will be published at once when the last one is ready. 1.i) For Standards Track and BCP documents, the IESG approval announcement includes a write-up section with the following sections: Technical Summary The document specifies a framework for the PSAMP (Packet SAMPling) protocol. The functions of this protocol are to select packets from a stream according to a set of standardized selectors, to form a stream of reports on the selected packets, and to export the reports to a collector. This framework details the components of this architecture, then describes some generic requirements, motivated by the dual aims of ubiquitous deployment and utility of the reports for applications. Detailed requirements for selection, reporting and exporting are described, along with configuration requirements of the PSAMP functions. Working Group Summary This document was a regular WG document. There is strong consensus in the working group that this framework is an appropriate solution. Protocol Quality The document was thoroughly reviewed by the PSAMP WG. -- to unsubscribe send a message to psamp-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: