From nobody Thu Mar 1 01:05:49 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E283124BAC for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2018 01:05:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.595 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.595 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id S0Wr2i8jEpBZ for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2018 01:05:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2-ext1.iad.github.net [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F220B120725 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2018 01:05:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2018 01:05:44 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1519895144; bh=exuZeLVU5uHHRnP2cemJMcaReishMpcWqterJ6qu+xI=; h=From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=IvF3M/Mx74c05yaQh1DO+T2YN79tR9k9Z5ubvQyhYz+o9bqYcI8EtHhmMsdyk7fh+ HHceDJm4bshtmLOGKVeYZDjEI8Ahdw1PD21VT51Koffei9ODcu3fEqRwBCb9IgxRxG FyO8qMhxF8kVg1AM4+QdnAZUeuIBhvFMmiHHJU4M= From: Brian Trammell Reply-To: quicwg/wg-materials To: quicwg/wg-materials Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/wg-materials] move details of future proposals to backup (#29) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a97c268dc0eb_46fb2ab98ad20ec4879251"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: britram X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2018 09:05:47 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a97c268dc0eb_46fb2ab98ad20ec4879251 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/wg-materials/pull/29 -- Commit Summary -- * move details of future proposals to backup -- File Changes -- M ietf101/spin-101.key (0) M ietf101/spin-101.pdf (0) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/wg-materials/pull/29.patch https://github.com/quicwg/wg-materials/pull/29.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/wg-materials/pull/29 ----==_mimepart_5a97c268dc0eb_46fb2ab98ad20ec4879251 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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As shown in {{quic-tls-handshake}} and {{ex-key-update}}, there is never a
situation where there are more than two different sets of keying material that
might be received by a peer. Once both sending and receiving keys have been
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In draft-ietf-quic-qcram.md:

> @@ -127,23 +127,180 @@ considered blocked by the decoder and can not be processed until all entries in
 the range `[1, Depends Index]` have been added.  While blocked, header
 field data MUST remain in the blocked stream's flow control window.
 
-# HPACK extensions
+# Wire Format
+
+QCRAM instructions occur on three stream types, each of which uses a separate
+instruction space:
+
+ - Table updates are carried by HEADERS frames on the control stream, as defined
+   by {{QUIC-HTTP}}.  Frames on this stream modify the dynamic table state
+   without generating output to any particular request.
+ - Acknowledgement of header frame processing is carried by HEADER_ACK frames,
+   running from decoder to encoder.
+ - Finally, the contents of HEADERS and PUSH_PROMISE frames on request streams
+   reference the QPACK table state.

Ah, you caught me! I cribbed much of this text from QPACK-05. ;-) Missed a name change.

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Request +streams contain only header blocks, which do not modify the state of the table. + +## Primitives + +The prefixed integer from Section 5.1 of [RFC7541] is used heavily throughout +this document. The string literal, defined by Section 5.2 of [RFC7541], is used +with the following modification. + +HPACK defines string literals to begin on a byte boundary. They begin with a +single flag (indicating whether the string is Huffman-coded), followed by the +Length encoded as a 7-bit prefix integer, and finally Length octets of data. + +QCRAM permits strings to begin other than on a byte boundary. An "N-bit prefix Yes, I wrestled with that, too. I'm inclined to say that once we start changing the instruction space, wire compatibility isn't a goal. And that's the choice we need to make about the path forward. You're correct that it's only a four-byte prefix, but that can represent header names up to 15 octets long; a surprising number of registered headers are fifteen octets or fewer (though in fairness, many of these are already in the static table or could be if we update it). The other advantage of this is that, if we want to depart from HPACK one more step, it enables us to zero-base the tables rather than one-base the tables. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1141#discussion_r171596533 ----==_mimepart_5a981df57ef2f_2b803f849814cf38103156 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-qcram.md:

> +
+In order to ensure table consistency and simplify update management, all table
+updates occur on the control stream rather than on request streams. Request
+streams contain only header blocks, which do not modify the state of the table.
+
+## Primitives
+
+The prefixed integer from Section 5.1 of [RFC7541] is used heavily throughout
+this document.  The string literal, defined by Section 5.2 of [RFC7541], is used
+with the following modification.
+
+HPACK defines string literals to begin on a byte boundary.  They begin with a
+single flag (indicating whether the string is Huffman-coded), followed by the
+Length encoded as a 7-bit prefix integer, and finally Length octets of data.
+
+QCRAM permits strings to begin other than on a byte boundary.  An "N-bit prefix

Yes, I wrestled with that, too. I'm inclined to say that once we start changing the instruction space, wire compatibility isn't a goal. And that's the choice we need to make about the path forward. You're correct that it's only a four-byte prefix, but that can represent header names up to 15 octets long; a surprising number of registered headers are fifteen octets or fewer (though in fairness, many of these are already in the static table or could be if we update it).

The other advantage of this is that, if we want to depart from HPACK one more step, it enables us to zero-base the tables rather than one-base the tables.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qcram.md:

>  
-This replaces the HPACK instruction for Dynamic Table Size Update (see Section
-6.3 of {{RFC7541}}, which is not supported by HTTP over QUIC.
+For header blocks encoded in non-blocking mode, the encoder needs to forego
+indexed representations that refer to table updates which have not yet been
+acknowledged with {{feedback}}.  An implementation could extend the header table
+entry with a boolean to track acknowledgement state.  However, the number of

You're correct, and Martin's feedback had been to remove assumptions of particular implementation styles anyway. I think I'll just drop that and say the encoder needs to not do it, and leave how to track that as an exercise for the implementer.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qcram.md:

> -indexed representations that refer to vulnerable entries (see
-{{overview-hol-avoidance}}).  An implementation could extend the header table
-entry with a boolean to track vulnerability.  However, the number of entries in
-the table that are vulnerable is likely to be small in practice, much less than
-the total number of entries, so a data tracking only vulnerable
-(un-acknowledged) entries, separate from the main header table, might be more
-space efficient.
-
-### Safe evictions
-
-Section {{evictions}} describes how QCRAM avoids invalid references that might
-result from out-of-order delivery.  When the encoder processes a HEADER_ACK, it
-dereferences table entries that were indexed in the acknowledged header.  To
-track which entries must be dereferenced, it can maintain a map from
-unacknowledged headers to lists of (absolute) indices.  The simplest place to
-store the actual reference count might be the table entries.  In practice the

I'll let you and @martinthomson fight that out; I took it out based on his review. ;-)

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I will poke around here too see if there are strong feelings about loo= sing the option for streaming mode. My fuzzy recollection is that it wa= s valued for hardening against memory spikes associated with clusters of = pathologically large headers.

FWIW, when I extended my QCRAM protype in the proxygen simulator to sp= lit updates from the request-response steram, it became effectively doub= le encode:

https://g= ithub.com/facebook/proxygen/blob/master/proxygen/lib/http/codec/compress/= experimental/qcram/QCRAMEncoder.cpp#L45

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Remember, the headers cannot be streamed onto the wire in HTTP/2, nor ca= n you compress headers on any other streams in parallel. QCRAM is already = better than that because, if desired, multiple streams can be actively comp= ressing at once. (Either queuing their additions into a single table updat= e frame, or compressing against a table state without modifications.)

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boundary="--==_mimepart_5a9876d6d4ee_c8b2af2b6755c1471035"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2018 21:55:39 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a9876d6d4ee_c8b2af2b6755c1471035 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Branch: refs/heads/key-schedule-cleanup Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: 61977b518599e3441fa473651588921c8dd2e783 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/61977b518599e3441fa473651588921c8dd2e783 Author: martinduke Date: 2018-01-07 (Sun, 07 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Rewrite text about Version Negotiation This is meant to resolve #1038. I made the following changes: 1) Explicitly state the conditions for each possible server action on receipt of the first packet 2) Use IETF terms like "MUST" when missing. 3) Eliminate redundant text 4) Eliminate all explicit mentions of the 1200-byte limit, as this is defined later in the text, where it also explains exactly how to measure packet size. I'm concerned that just saying "1200 bytes" here might cause people to count IP headers or something. Make them read the definition! I don't believe there's any substantive change to the spec. Commit: bae27776631f1254750fdcef16cf10acc935f024 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/bae27776631f1254750fdcef16cf10acc935f024 Author: martinduke Date: 2018-01-08 (Mon, 08 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Update to PR #1039 Addressed @martinthomson's issues. Made further edits to be concise and well-organized. Commit: 61c10035ada05379a6d1b7efe54238f383882b2b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/61c10035ada05379a6d1b7efe54238f383882b2b Author: martinduke Date: 2018-01-08 (Mon, 08 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Addressed @mikkelfj's issue. Commit: a847126f9351898ff5cfa2e4f92762d03169575b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a847126f9351898ff5cfa2e4f92762d03169575b Author: martinduke Date: 2018-01-08 (Mon, 08 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Addressed Martin's issues and fixed one error (first packets might not be "handshake" packets -- they might be 0RTT) Commit: f1fe44676ef81ee931ebeea871a849b05932bd16 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f1fe44676ef81ee931ebeea871a849b05932bd16 Author: martinduke Date: 2018-01-08 (Mon, 08 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Whoops, forgot the last of Martin's comments. Commit: a15f67a0e8fff62a3f575e75b48bcd0905db2a2f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a15f67a0e8fff62a3f575e75b48bcd0905db2a2f Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-16 (Tue, 16 Jan 2018) Changed paths: A .lint.py M Makefile M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge branch 'master' into patch-8 Commit: 3736b081ffcb21a713137042aa74899451a16429 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3736b081ffcb21a713137042aa74899451a16429 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-16 (Tue, 16 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Tweak send stream figure The use of "Application Open" was confusing. The text is clearer on this point, so simplify the diagram. Closes #1008. Commit: 256ad6b7e6bcfbcd0092fc1633ccfd06f6cc0341 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/256ad6b7e6bcfbcd0092fc1633ccfd06f6cc0341 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-16 (Tue, 16 Jan 2018) Log Message: ----------- Merge branch 'master' into patch-8 Commit: 45e7350cb269eafaf1469f01a746ec8cded3dcef https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/45e7350cb269eafaf1469f01a746ec8cded3dcef Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-17 (Wed, 17 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- No more paired streams Commit: b52b40bb8ced2bbeda2e4f5d8ab00a2d21a3cc19 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b52b40bb8ced2bbeda2e4f5d8ab00a2d21a3cc19 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-25 (Thu, 25 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Remove mandatory in-order delivery Pursuant to what seemed to be the agreement in Melbourne, this makes it possible for an endpoint to deliver bytes out of order. To @ianswett's request, it also makes it mandatory for endpoints to provide the ability to deliver in order. Closes #252, #257. Commit: dc9774aeb1165b3a7ea0914e1ab54535bb26719c https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/dc9774aeb1165b3a7ea0914e1ab54535bb26719c Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-25 (Thu, 25 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Review tweaks Commit: 2ddb0a7bc45c8143659018b754ce7ae5a0eec432 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2ddb0a7bc45c8143659018b754ce7ae5a0eec432 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-29 (Mon, 29 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Version Negotiation doesn't have a packet number And all that follows from that... Commit: 33d62fcd264d13fafb5a5571f9506d9411d6e01d https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/33d62fcd264d13fafb5a5571f9506d9411d6e01d Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2018-01-29 (Mon, 29 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Clarify flow control issues on stream 0 Commit: 2fa05ac4dc6259ddea18a3d0f83ea33788e20408 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2fa05ac4dc6259ddea18a3d0f83ea33788e20408 Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2018-01-29 (Mon, 29 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Really, not zero Commit: 55d19eff3bf1ce9e77fc3d947aee1efe88f19478 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/55d19eff3bf1ce9e77fc3d947aee1efe88f19478 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-30 (Tue, 30 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Ian's suggestion Commit: 6c229dcfbca5caae3f78bf06c8adb532223ca088 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6c229dcfbca5caae3f78bf06c8adb532223ca088 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-30 (Tue, 30 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Remove misleading changelog entry Commit: 48d70930bab724ec33251b860ce2c87f9d2cd743 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/48d70930bab724ec33251b860ce2c87f9d2cd743 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-30 (Tue, 30 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1084 from quicwg/cleartext-version-dependent Remove misleading changelog entry Commit: 119a93e62046d7c25146b49171190e87c15ce768 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/119a93e62046d7c25146b49171190e87c15ce768 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-30 (Tue, 30 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1078 from quicwg/vn-pn Version Negotiation doesn't have a packet number Commit: 1e20d5b23342ca6f7fd1bcc860dece0ecf9be14e https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1e20d5b23342ca6f7fd1bcc860dece0ecf9be14e Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-30 (Tue, 30 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1070 from quicwg/remove-in-order Remove mandatory in-order delivery Commit: 7200fd560bb2ca1d69dee8ff8ec4701598bdece5 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7200fd560bb2ca1d69dee8ff8ec4701598bdece5 Author: ianswett Date: 2018-01-30 (Tue, 30 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Include max_ack_delay (#1060) Include max_ack_delay in the handshake and RTO timers, as I originally intended. Commit: 0fcf7a84e7103b38b74e8625b6e3e6172bda9385 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0fcf7a84e7103b38b74e8625b6e3e6172bda9385 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-31 (Wed, 31 Jan 2018) Changed paths: A draft-thomson-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- Add invariants doc Commit: 70907d8126637bcc814b01d3fd80d949fcb722cf https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/70907d8126637bcc814b01d3fd80d949fcb722cf Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-31 (Wed, 31 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-thomson-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- Cut text from intro Commit: 2746e18970452521f65ef1149b50b66c04523d3a https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2746e18970452521f65ef1149b50b66c04523d3a Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-31 (Wed, 31 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-thomson-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- Don't use payload too often Commit: f3c827228f2cdeff8e570d8ca2fe898f3d0999ca https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f3c827228f2cdeff8e570d8ca2fe898f3d0999ca Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-31 (Wed, 31 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-thomson-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- Tweak description of long and short packet headers Commit: 1e5772beb7a6304450f60a5b711639e38eb16b6c https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1e5772beb7a6304450f60a5b711639e38eb16b6c Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-31 (Wed, 31 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-thomson-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- Rework connection ID purpose text Commit: 38eb27a4f42484861dec45c4330f2243211c90f9 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/38eb27a4f42484861dec45c4330f2243211c90f9 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-31 (Wed, 31 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-thomson-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- Connection ID isn't stable Commit: 059f9d0b507f38969ebde1c6461399f597feaca9 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/059f9d0b507f38969ebde1c6461399f597feaca9 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-31 (Wed, 31 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-thomson-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- lowercase packet Commit: a5b82c35ad7323458475fbaed4c9b36e55e2857e https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a5b82c35ad7323458475fbaed4c9b36e55e2857e Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-31 (Wed, 31 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-thomson-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- The long header as defined here v1 defines a long header with more fields than this, so it makes sense to make the distinction clear. Commit: 5b50456159bd4c1bb129f26c5090ae7d01ec09ec https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5b50456159bd4c1bb129f26c5090ae7d01ec09ec Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-31 (Wed, 31 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-thomson-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- Authentication of VN is part of the version-specific part Commit: aa6e9727de4904c9f10653e058ae856e48cb9804 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/aa6e9727de4904c9f10653e058ae856e48cb9804 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-31 (Wed, 31 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-thomson-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- Remove extra text that might be too much Commit: 0f6e2555962bdf9216e9afcfc420cd016dcd7735 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0f6e2555962bdf9216e9afcfc420cd016dcd7735 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-31 (Wed, 31 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-thomson-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- Add security consideration about integrity protection for version negotiation Commit: c33d644a2ac97adf7a67cf4eff338dbfa19421a3 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c33d644a2ac97adf7a67cf4eff338dbfa19421a3 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-31 (Wed, 31 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-thomson-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- Not the editor this time Commit: 4f2dea4508aa7df86fb7f3e7b70ac368d2837e71 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4f2dea4508aa7df86fb7f3e7b70ac368d2837e71 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-31 (Wed, 31 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-thomson-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- Fix draft name Commit: 98ab34b2bc9d75b4d5dd4925058bd4a4008518fe https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/98ab34b2bc9d75b4d5dd4925058bd4a4008518fe Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-31 (Wed, 31 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M Makefile Log Message: ----------- Use the full date, because ticket 2422 Commit: 674731b994f0c1d155020aa0a9d6ff9d8d78ddca https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/674731b994f0c1d155020aa0a9d6ff9d8d78ddca Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-31 (Wed, 31 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-thomson-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- Close #1040 Commit: a5b1b98022f9ac638662bdb70ae8811f9e642057 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a5b1b98022f9ac638662bdb70ae8811f9e642057 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-31 (Wed, 31 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-thomson-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- Tweak use of ellipsis Commit: eca60b8b3af57993ac4fee8a5a65a35a3ca13cfe https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/eca60b8b3af57993ac4fee8a5a65a35a3ca13cfe Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2018-01-31 (Wed, 31 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Extract amplification mitigation Commit: 26521a16e9a2ceb9cbdba6c359fbde582165e976 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/26521a16e9a2ceb9cbdba6c359fbde582165e976 Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2018-01-31 (Wed, 31 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Clarify handshake exemption Commit: ee3909c42bfb174da183b7ccfba0a37c37040623 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ee3909c42bfb174da183b7ccfba0a37c37040623 Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2018-01-31 (Wed, 31 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Just to be perfectly clear.... Commit: c35948b4e76989c450a36c441021144fefbc9d2a https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c35948b4e76989c450a36c441021144fefbc9d2a Author: janaiyengar Date: 2018-02-01 (Thu, 01 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Introduces PATH_CHALLENGE and PATH_RESPONSE frames (#1086) * Use PATH_CHALLENGE and PATH_RESPONSE frames. * responses to comments * not rtt, response time * hard to guess * fix broken refs * ian's comments * removed offending text about acks * f'ing whitespace Commit: e6914b05e2d292275ed5eeef94806418aa8b1493 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e6914b05e2d292275ed5eeef94806418aa8b1493 Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2018-02-01 (Thu, 01 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- fix changelog Commit: 423fa9c4f6e2ccf126c50307d8e008203483a14c https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/423fa9c4f6e2ccf126c50307d8e008203483a14c Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2018-02-01 (Thu, 01 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Mitigate amplification attacks during handshake Commit: 632097d983f831fbdba640ebed550c042d27636c https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/632097d983f831fbdba640ebed550c042d27636c Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2018-02-01 (Thu, 01 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Martin's feedback Commit: acb375ad6aee6b58305fc4e0f7b5001b325a8314 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/acb375ad6aee6b58305fc4e0f7b5001b325a8314 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-02-02 (Fri, 02 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1090 from quicwg/amplification Mitigate amplification attacks during handshake Commit: a7b6d1f3ca3db4edd2c9c591be891803584bab91 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a7b6d1f3ca3db4edd2c9c591be891803584bab91 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-02-02 (Fri, 02 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1082 from quicwg/0_more_special Clarify flow control issues on stream 0 Commit: 3b0788601d2fae9b965eda7efa0ecc76062e8be8 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3b0788601d2fae9b965eda7efa0ecc76062e8be8 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-02-06 (Tue, 06 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-thomson-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- Packets aren't short or long, only the headers are Commit: a4c3c1c2f07f5ebbc15b6fea67721c586ea82f2c https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a4c3c1c2f07f5ebbc15b6fea67721c586ea82f2c Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2018-02-06 (Tue, 06 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- Alt-Svc quic= a list (#1097) * Alt-Svc quic= a list * Exercise (and mention) reserved version numbers * @LPardue's feedback * Better text about example reserved versions Commit: 7e4d4fd3bd6fd5e1cf2e5e576ddfab1557746d04 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7e4d4fd3bd6fd5e1cf2e5e576ddfab1557746d04 Author: martinduke Date: 2018-02-09 (Fri, 09 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Fix outdated function reference Commit: 567fdae2d37bca3236c09d6428d8dad51da469df https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/567fdae2d37bca3236c09d6428d8dad51da469df Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-02-10 (Sat, 10 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1103 from martinduke/patch-9 Fix outdated function reference Commit: 999a0ee31b590cb685e7c92418c956a3e56e8a03 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/999a0ee31b590cb685e7c92418c956a3e56e8a03 Author: Nick Harper Date: 2018-02-09 (Fri, 09 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Fix the label length in the QHKDF-Expand example Commit: 4385ffaf129ca74d27a045b4fac49905a999bbcc https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4385ffaf129ca74d27a045b4fac49905a999bbcc Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-02-10 (Sat, 10 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1104 from nharper/qhkdf-example-label-len Fix the label length in the QHKDF-Expand example Commit: 60faa9669e39c009fb9e8590b95078043ce51a7a https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/60faa9669e39c009fb9e8590b95078043ce51a7a Author: martinduke Date: 2018-02-12 (Mon, 12 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Frame types that are Protocol Violations Specify that certain frames on unidirectional streams tear down the connection. STREAM, STREAM_BLOCKED, and RST_STREAM can't be on a send-only, and MAX_STREAM_DATA and STOP_SENDING can't be received on a receive-only. Commit: 2fbc433205ba977f902a186f13faa38077011a45 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2fbc433205ba977f902a186f13faa38077011a45 Author: martinduke Date: 2018-02-12 (Mon, 12 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Fixed formatting error. Commit: 5bb5d4b1d4f166081e8f7bd0a5086d2dda1ff40b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5bb5d4b1d4f166081e8f7bd0a5086d2dda1ff40b Author: martinduke Date: 2018-02-12 (Mon, 12 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Added handling for unopened streams @mikkelfj's issue. Commit: 4e8fe638c42bef826e3984e36b60e3dcb1e87a0f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4e8fe638c42bef826e3984e36b60e3dcb1e87a0f Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-02-13 (Tue, 13 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1107 from martinduke/patch-10 Frame types that are Protocol Violations Commit: b33d04e972bb073baf434d1d531130ba3661bee5 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b33d04e972bb073baf434d1d531130ba3661bee5 Author: martinduke Date: 2018-02-12 (Mon, 12 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Rewrote completely based on Martin's feedback @martinthomson's suggestions make this much cleaner. Please read it over for mistakes, but I think we're close. Commit: c2c42100d78ee882ec0c9d5100e3333f94ced5e2 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c2c42100d78ee882ec0c9d5100e3333f94ced5e2 Author: ianswett Date: 2018-02-12 (Mon, 12 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Define InRecovery() (#1106) * Define InRecovery() * Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Commit: 378f5438e8fffbaaf45c5707b9eb1442f8403603 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/378f5438e8fffbaaf45c5707b9eb1442f8403603 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-02-13 (Tue, 13 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Rework packetization section In line with our established principles for retransmission, I've reworked the description of packetization. The description now concentrates on the information that is being repaired in response to perceived loss. This should help avoid the confusion about retransmission. Two new subsections are added to the packetization section. One covers the processing of packets and includes the existing text on processing requirements before acknowledgment. The other includes the retransmission logic. The retransmission section still mentions frame types, but I've tried to make that secondary to the description of the information that is being repaired. I also removed mention of "Regular QUIC packets", which only occurred in 3 places. Closes #463, #765. Commit: 6ac00a475867bb5c2b906223879c4b2df2d3ccce https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6ac00a475867bb5c2b906223879c4b2df2d3ccce Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-02-13 (Tue, 13 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Tighten language around MAX_XXX Commit: 5271b5952a5b68e9fcd5417d1c78cfe9812a4450 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5271b5952a5b68e9fcd5417d1c78cfe9812a4450 Author: martinduke Date: 2018-02-12 (Mon, 12 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Made Mike Bishop's changes Commit: e6beac4d18e2f896914d021040f9ccd17390b323 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e6beac4d18e2f896914d021040f9ccd17390b323 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-02-14 (Wed, 14 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Make *BLOCKED retransmission rules clearer, add a little more general context Commit: da4436f6103d3708becc75dedff3f3ee415c82ca https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/da4436f6103d3708becc75dedff3f3ee415c82ca Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-02-14 (Wed, 14 Feb 2018) Changed paths: A draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md R draft-thomson-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- Move invariants to an -ietf- name Commit: 48a3ea75063b2092d6172c08d552778a478f06b8 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/48a3ea75063b2092d6172c08d552778a478f06b8 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-02-14 (Wed, 14 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Integrate invariants into transport Commit: f229404621fb4e89c8834e45876658da85b398c7 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f229404621fb4e89c8834e45876658da85b398c7 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-02-14 (Wed, 14 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1053 from quicwg/packets-and-frames-v2 Rework packetization section Commit: e19ed60c91514e0a9334e54721d2f912e577e8e3 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e19ed60c91514e0a9334e54721d2f912e577e8e3 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-02-14 (Wed, 14 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- This is hard Commit: 626f9190ac9677f7cc23e4a819cfa8c2e3c9b6b2 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/626f9190ac9677f7cc23e4a819cfa8c2e3c9b6b2 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-02-15 (Thu, 15 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1054 from quicwg/fix-send-states Tweak send stream figure Commit: 5bb4a1ecd0158714abc1f18d68b8dd722f92f7ea https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5bb4a1ecd0158714abc1f18d68b8dd722f92f7ea Author: afrind Date: 2018-02-14 (Wed, 14 Feb 2018) Changed paths: A draft-ietf-quic-qcram.md Log Message: ----------- Adopted QCRAM draft (#1108) Commit: 8b0afd057c41ed4fcd8cdc99eeb10dbe83954d6c https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8b0afd057c41ed4fcd8cdc99eeb10dbe83954d6c Author: Lucas Pardue Date: 2018-02-15 (Thu, 15 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M README.md Log Message: ----------- Add QCRAM Some links will be broken until adopted document is uploaded to datatracker. Commit: b3066dc80eb473ef30c91bb2bdd7c90f936ea56f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b3066dc80eb473ef30c91bb2bdd7c90f936ea56f Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-02-16 (Fri, 16 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M README.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1113 from LPardue/patch-8 Add QCRAM links to README Commit: 00a80090ef056e340e0cb6813870e0f41edcd11b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/00a80090ef056e340e0cb6813870e0f41edcd11b Author: martinduke Date: 2018-02-15 (Thu, 15 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Addressed Martin's Comments I don't think we've converged on whether it is desirable to process an Initial Packet before checking if the connection ID matches on open one; I would like to submit these extensive changes (assuming no other issues) and continue that specific debate in a new issue/PR. Commit: 80a47db5b7b6fb28e2cdbb1879c21b9bfc9f5e59 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/80a47db5b7b6fb28e2cdbb1879c21b9bfc9f5e59 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-02-16 (Fri, 16 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Couple of typos Commit: 40ee6a937194067501b2738eae1c87c01ee85289 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/40ee6a937194067501b2738eae1c87c01ee85289 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-02-16 (Fri, 16 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Remove trailing whitespace Commit: 6fd38851a3f893b606fbc2fa930edb57cc0dbeac https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6fd38851a3f893b606fbc2fa930edb57cc0dbeac Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-02-16 (Fri, 16 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge branch 'pr1039' Commit: 27902c4be06f15bc643ed5bd7240d107605ad34f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/27902c4be06f15bc643ed5bd7240d107605ad34f Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2018-02-17 (Sat, 17 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- Extract request cancellation from GOAWAY (#1100) Currently, all the discussion about CANCELLED requests is bound up in GOAWAY. While GOAWAY is one way that requests can be CANCELLED, there are others. This lifts out the text about request cancellation to its own section, then shortens the GOAWAY section to reference it. I don't think there are new normative requirements here, but there are definitely some requirements that are easier to find now. Commit: 96b076bbedb1e1326ca64bbc1fb1732649a46b51 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/96b076bbedb1e1326ca64bbc1fb1732649a46b51 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-02-20 (Tue, 20 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M Makefile A draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1109 from quicwg/invariants Invariants Commit: e086bc4cc79c213d2e50e8caba66227edb0edbe4 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e086bc4cc79c213d2e50e8caba66227edb0edbe4 Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2018-02-20 (Tue, 20 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md M draft-ietf-quic-qcram.md Log Message: ----------- Integrate QCRAM (#1117) * Lift QCRAM frame changes into HTTP/QUIC * Remove HPACK0 * HoL => head-of-line * encoder/decoder context * Figure formatting Commit: a9d3662927a90cae0e3651d81f5d67b62680aa61 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a9d3662927a90cae0e3651d81f5d67b62680aa61 Author: Julian Reschke Date: 2018-02-20 (Tue, 20 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-qcram.md Log Message: ----------- qcram: make boilerplate consistent ..with sibling specs. Commit: b62445f79e6d391abc895eb4ee5a164b97517986 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b62445f79e6d391abc895eb4ee5a164b97517986 Author: Lucas Pardue Date: 2018-02-20 (Tue, 20 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-qcram.md Log Message: ----------- Simplify QCRAM abstract (#1114) * Simplify abstract State what not why, make it more similar to HPACK abstract. * Trim trailing whitespace * dmitri's feedback Commit: 57b1b61565363993b8e0f25428578f511b73395b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/57b1b61565363993b8e0f25428578f511b73395b Author: Julian Reschke Date: 2018-02-21 (Wed, 21 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-qcram.md Log Message: ----------- qcram: move acks to appendix and make it unnumbered Commit: 1eeacb55a8e86fb2606917b856aae4dcec0167d0 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1eeacb55a8e86fb2606917b856aae4dcec0167d0 Author: Julian Reschke Date: 2018-02-21 (Wed, 21 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-qcram.md Log Message: ----------- qcram: section reference format Commit: 39be5fae99c797d13297f331d70b8206ca0846e8 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/39be5fae99c797d13297f331d70b8206ca0846e8 Author: Julian Reschke Date: 2018-02-21 (Wed, 21 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-qcram.md Log Message: ----------- qcram: consistent formatting of range Commit: f13c82fb4c7136777cdbe0dc7edbb25274f6d11d https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f13c82fb4c7136777cdbe0dc7edbb25274f6d11d Author: Christian Huitema Date: 2018-02-21 (Wed, 21 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M Makefile M README.md M draft-ietf-quic-http.md A draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md A draft-ietf-quic-qcram.md M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1 from quicwg/master Align on QUIC WG Commit: 453ea6efb3802938b5431a6741248d9a37100921 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/453ea6efb3802938b5431a6741248d9a37100921 Author: Christian Huitema Date: 2018-02-21 (Wed, 21 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Adding a TLS Failure error code Commit: d49c460a92d0f66e634c5d30234ea96cecc67f62 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d49c460a92d0f66e634c5d30234ea96cecc67f62 Author: Christian Huitema Date: 2018-02-21 (Wed, 21 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Reverting the proposal, adding a pointer to the TLS draft. Commit: fd72f6d449df7bac7d851ef48e75106360601140 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/fd72f6d449df7bac7d851ef48e75106360601140 Author: Christian Huitema Date: 2018-02-21 (Wed, 21 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Commit: 4bb46bdcdacdc3af50fbdcefbf903e8d339569d1 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4bb46bdcdacdc3af50fbdcefbf903e8d339569d1 Author: Christian Huitema Date: 2018-02-21 (Wed, 21 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Fixing trailing white space. 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----==_mimepart_5a9876dea8714_7c602b210b8ecec88451c-- From nobody Thu Mar 1 13:58:21 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B67E612FAC7 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2018 13:58:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.008 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.008 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mj7b0RIZ2TTT for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2018 13:58:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from o8.sgmail.github.com (o8.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.199]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2434E12FAC6 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2018 13:58:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=GOo87gopYaSKPd/VgtRc8jUzN2k=; b=D/Cz0Rhk7TlERe5f p3tI5RoDJRulADdH7OlDzHeNPl7d9uKsUzsAZmDozI9ngtz84TP7gGV21NvfNryF iBAIdVfEUyLTW15B85MAWT+SCkvlSeF0ndWBonCYYRsgFCsY1Ewty7V4ejVFiJ1t BGC+BAO4uXdJZtLSDgm5YcNupd4= Received: by filter0816p1mdw1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0816p1mdw1-2666-5A987779-5 2018-03-01 21:58:17.159165796 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0011p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id dFTKL_6iREG5oHQ0lTQS6g for ; Thu, 01 Mar 2018 21:58:17.242 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2018 21:58:17 +0000 (UTC) From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Separate instruction sets for QCRAM (#1141) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a987778d0222_61183f9c529e0f3871454"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak0PVkEpjxkju08dZl0wdhOYjjAB3s2Y0GKGJS PqePZ79lQiT5RQ+mfofXhVIlLQ6nLZli2YszzsBkYr+qPZdLVBZoH0BU0wkBxe0/L7M2VwpbIxZF/1 JRlOhfjfGLC72RH6/CS+2llaxBZ7j/7OekEq+Imb/pjT+Z3OCOTpr29idc0QK+9TJI6iY1uzSM/Apo g= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2018 21:58:21 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a987778d0222_61183f9c529e0f3871454 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson commented on this pull request. > -indexed representations that refer to vulnerable entries (see -{{overview-hol-avoidance}}). An implementation could extend the header table -entry with a boolean to track vulnerability. However, the number of entries in -the table that are vulnerable is likely to be small in practice, much less than -the total number of entries, so a data tracking only vulnerable -(un-acknowledged) entries, separate from the main header table, might be more -space efficient. - -### Safe evictions - -Section {{evictions}} describes how QCRAM avoids invalid references that might -result from out-of-order delivery. When the encoder processes a HEADER_ACK, it -dereferences table entries that were indexed in the acknowledged header. To -track which entries must be dereferenced, it can maintain a map from -unacknowledged headers to lists of (absolute) indices. The simplest place to -store the actual reference count might be the table entries. In practice the I would have been happy with you changing it. How about we add something in a separate PR? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1141#discussion_r171706938 ----==_mimepart_5a987778d0222_61183f9c529e0f3871454 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-qcram.md:

> -indexed representations that refer to vulnerable entries (see
-{{overview-hol-avoidance}}).  An implementation could extend the header table
-entry with a boolean to track vulnerability.  However, the number of entries in
-the table that are vulnerable is likely to be small in practice, much less than
-the total number of entries, so a data tracking only vulnerable
-(un-acknowledged) entries, separate from the main header table, might be more
-space efficient.
-
-### Safe evictions
-
-Section {{evictions}} describes how QCRAM avoids invalid references that might
-result from out-of-order delivery.  When the encoder processes a HEADER_ACK, it
-dereferences table entries that were indexed in the acknowledged header.  To
-track which entries must be dereferenced, it can maintain a map from
-unacknowledged headers to lists of (absolute) indices.  The simplest place to
-store the actual reference count might be the table entries.  In practice the

I would have been happy with you changing it. How about we add something in a separate PR?

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Using the same data as an in earlier thread, I noticed that a decent percent of bytes go to indexed representations, about 10% the example I looked at. In this particular example, every indexed representation encoded in a single byte.

If instead of byte-aligning every instruction as HPACK requires, only the entire header block were byte aligned, I could imagine saving two or more bits per indexed instruction (minus some bits of padding per header block), an average of two bits reduced would be around 2.5% overall savings. I happen to think this will be a bigger compression win than a lot of the other optimizations in flight*.

Part of my premise here is that for many connections the number of active dynamic table entries is relatively small, on the order of 64 or less. I haven't sought out the best varint scheme. A simple starting point for thought, one might construct a static huffman table, where probability is index value, i.e. smallest indices encode with fewest bits. ( Byte alignment of the whole block might use a few extra bits of padding )

  • As in the PR for separate instruction sets in 1141.

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Interesting idea. I like the potential, though I'm having trouble vis= ualizing exactly what that would look like.

Perhaps a less drastic form, particularly if we wind up with an algori= thm that tends to encourage two passes: We could make the indexed repres= entation carry a list of indices, rather than a single index, and byte-pa= ck that. So you send your list of indexed representations as a few long = instructions, but everything else separately.

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An implementation could extend the header table -entry with a boolean to track vulnerability. However, the number of entries in -the table that are vulnerable is likely to be small in practice, much less than -the total number of entries, so a data tracking only vulnerable -(un-acknowledged) entries, separate from the main header table, might be more -space efficient. - -### Safe evictions - -Section {{evictions}} describes how QCRAM avoids invalid references that might -result from out-of-order delivery. When the encoder processes a HEADER_ACK, it -dereferences table entries that were indexed in the acknowledged header. To -track which entries must be dereferenced, it can maintain a map from -unacknowledged headers to lists of (absolute) indices. The simplest place to -store the actual reference count might be the table entries. In practice the Note that the text at 476-485 touches on this as well. > An encoder MUST ensure that a header block which references a dynamic table > entry is not received by the decoder after the referenced entry has already been > evicted... > > In order to enable this, the encoder will need to track outstanding > (unacknowledged) header blocks and table updates using feedback received from > the decoder. Keeping a refcount on the table entry is away of tracking this information. We can fill in more detail about a suggested implementation if we want. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1141#discussion_r171715942 ----==_mimepart_5a987feca715_70d33fc191caef30323b0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-qcram.md:

> -indexed representations that refer to vulnerable entries (see
-{{overview-hol-avoidance}}).  An implementation could extend the header table
-entry with a boolean to track vulnerability.  However, the number of entries in
-the table that are vulnerable is likely to be small in practice, much less than
-the total number of entries, so a data tracking only vulnerable
-(un-acknowledged) entries, separate from the main header table, might be more
-space efficient.
-
-### Safe evictions
-
-Section {{evictions}} describes how QCRAM avoids invalid references that might
-result from out-of-order delivery.  When the encoder processes a HEADER_ACK, it
-dereferences table entries that were indexed in the acknowledged header.  To
-track which entries must be dereferenced, it can maintain a map from
-unacknowledged headers to lists of (absolute) indices.  The simplest place to
-store the actual reference count might be the table entries.  In practice the

Note that the text at 476-485 touches on this as well.

An encoder MUST ensure that a header block which references a dynamic table
entry is not received by the decoder after the referenced entry has already been
evicted...

In order to enable this, the encoder will need to track outstanding
(unacknowledged) header blocks and table updates using feedback received from
the decoder.

Keeping a refcount on the table entry is away of tracking this information. We can fill in more detail about a suggested implementation if we want.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -926,8 +926,11 @@ server continues below.
 
 If the packet is an Initial packet fully conforming with the
 specification, the server proceeds with the handshake ({{handshake}}).
-This commits the server to the version that the client
-selected.
+This commits the server to the version that the client selected.
+
+If the server currently doesn't accept any new connections, it SHOULD send a
+SERVER_BUSY error code. A client that receives this error code SHOULD NOT
+immediately try to reconnect to this server.

Thanks for the suggestion. That sounds better.

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----==_mimepart_5a98cd03e9dac_7a732ab766912ed4180881-- From nobody Thu Mar 1 23:12:42 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B8D61267BB for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2018 23:12:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YL1_r963UGaM for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2018 23:12:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2-ext7.iad.github.net [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5F7481241FC for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2018 23:12:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2018 23:12:38 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1519974758; bh=yIiTxpXzvSrR5vI6XKYE2fWi3wIqbjFyMmr5sl1pfTA=; h=From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=jy3vIvPbc8zVGHDul356g7LK5PDsZKDTTBC8X2NVPOZE05x06Uyioe1/KTKgg/MC/ bJGYIZX9km6I1nsFEYvxr636YRAOZoE4SkLzXfR1HluW8kO755xTk1ijvfxAAPFz9x W59swd2Y+1b0z1QpurV4RJYZhqG9DcKHHH13KNxU= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Replace HPACK integer encoding (#1148) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a98f966895cf_30f82adc878a6ec86597d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2018 07:12:41 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a98f966895cf_30f82adc878a6ec86597d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Buck, do you think that you can find enough data to do a frequency analysis on the indices to inform this? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1148#issuecomment-369841687 ----==_mimepart_5a98f966895cf_30f82adc878a6ec86597d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Buck, do you think that you can find enough data to do a frequency analysis on the indices to inform this?

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After the interim in Melbourne, a group of people looked at the design of connection IDs.

Their conclusion was that it was better to move away from a single identifier and to allow each endpoint to set a variable length identifier for the other to use in packets.

See https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/quic/l_b1NnBmQpQGCxCfQteOMkft-lE

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Oops, this is the third of these. #1101 is the one we want.

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Obviously people will feel inclined to nitpick at the length encoding. Feel free, but I think that I have good reasons for my choices there. The NEW_CONNECTION_ID thing is tricky. As was the analysis around the handshake packet keys. Also, note the trick in Version Negotiation packets about swapping the connection IDs. That makes client packet handling much simpler. The big loss is in stateless reset, which I think that I've covered well enough. Closes #1101. 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Obviously people will feel inclined to nitpick at the length encoding. Feel free, but I think that I have good reasons for my choices there. The NEW_CONNECTION_ID thing is tricky. As was the analysis around the handshake packet keys. Also, note the trick in Version Negotiation packets about swapping the connection IDs. That makes client packet handling much simpler. The big loss is in stateless reset, which I think that I've covered well enough. Closes #1101. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1151 -- Commit Summary -- * wip * Symmetric connection IDs -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md (78) M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md (25) M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (409) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1151.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1151.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Lots of changes here.

Obviously people will feel inclined to nitpick at the length encoding. Feel
free, but I think that I have good reasons for my choices there.

The NEW_CONNECTION_ID thing is tricky. As was the analysis around the
handshake packet keys. Also, note the trick in Version Negotiation packets
about swapping the connection IDs. That makes client packet handling much
simpler.

The big loss is in stateless reset, which I think that I've covered well
enough.

Closes #1101.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1151

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In draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md:

> @@ -257,9 +271,9 @@ Version Negotiation packets do not use integrity or confidentiality protection.
 A specific QUIC version might authenticate the packet as part of its connection
 establishment process.
 
-The Connection ID field in a Version Negotiation packet contains the Connection
-ID from the packet that was received.  This provides some protection against
-injection of Version Negotiation packets by off-path attackers.
+The Connection ID fields in a Version Negotiation packet contain the Connection
+ID values from the packet that was received.  This can provide some protection
+against injection of Version Negotiation packets by off-path attackers.

ID values in reversed order.

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----==_mimepart_5a9924a863b5e_4912b0287b4aec4655e1-- From nobody Fri Mar 2 02:44:19 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56A2E124B18 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2018 02:44:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ndiQiFX7D5gL for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2018 02:44:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from o5.sgmail.github.com (o5.sgmail.github.com [192.254.113.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1A6C2120725 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2018 02:44:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=BFxwjLZWcqocvK1Iuky82eFtHjI=; b=MT9NyEPdNFYXi2Hr Atyrie3HXWu/rKGftLNoaGsxqD0eXcxVdSBukQ5+EGU3sazlt+W4PvyA9ZU/RHGb K0l0IqYXdeLC33V6HmsygrzBzQOhJOSa3Be/TViLR32KrDEPMvUxRQ0Xidk0Ot6g rH1uiCInv40UwK1zWa8v1A2eV6Y= Received: by filter0464p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0464p1las1-21901-5A992AFF-14 2018-03-02 10:44:15.849345397 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0009p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id 0olutxOgQHedWMtWz-AMUg for ; Fri, 02 Mar 2018 10:44:15.680 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2018 10:44:15 +0000 (UTC) From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Symmetric connection IDs (#1151) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a992aff74062_31bd2ac1efad6ed0182290"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak0wJyA9YE9WJ3mpV3NtfcpafZJ96q0C/cBrS9 BTYKflrDHL5s/739J9712RX7O1+QPLOVnorgu270RFNJdNQJUxZMgrFmzYBPHRSrlDnQn1kaVUqCtK j6/TRJNaRm/+/7NnuYgWCc9CFpKf303Ls62myw1YsmhmrhcaF+KKA0jNwlR+KiRm63jfs60Rzglk4h k= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2018 10:44:18 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a992aff74062_31bd2ac1efad6ed0182290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mikkelfj commented on this pull request. Nonce use conflicts with routing use of ID > +Note(1): + +: The Destination Connection ID is of arbitrary length, and it could be zero + length if the server sends a Retry packet with a zero-length Source Connection + ID field. In this case, the handshake keys provide no assurance to the client + that the server received its packet; the client has to rely on the exchange + that included the Retry packet for that property. + +Note(2): + +: HKDF-Extract uses HMAC {{?RFC2104}}, which produces the same output for values + ending in zero octets and values that omit those octets. Thus, + 0x12345678900000 and 0x1234567890 produce the same result. A client is + required to randomize the value of Destination Connection ID, which avoids + this problem. + Can we avoid requiring it to be random, or allow it to be only partially random? If a client has intimate knowledge of the server infrastructure, it might want to route the packet, or add some guidance in the initial destination ID. > -The value in the Unused field is selected randomly by the server. The Connection -ID field echoes the corresponding value from the triggering client packet. This -allows clients some assurance that the server received the packet and that the -Version Negotiation packet is in fact from the server. The Version field MUST -be set to 0x00000000. The remainder of the Version Negotiation packet is a list -of 32-bit versions which the server supports. +The value in the Unused field is selected randomly by the server. + +The server MUST include the value from the Source Connection ID field of the +packet it receives in the Destination Connection ID field; similarly, the value +of the Source Connection ID field is set to the Destination Connection ID from +the received packet. The value for Source Connection ID is randomly selected by +a client and so gives clients some assurance that the server received the packet +and that the Version Negotiation packet was not generated by an off-path +attacker. + The the client sends a random source ID, it cannot be used to route the vneg packet back to the client. It could be partially a random. Even if encrypted, it wouldn't really be random. It seems that the need for nonces somewhat conflicts with the idea of using the ID for routing. It could also make the connection ID longer than necessary just to ensure initial entropy that isn't needed subsequently. vneg routing issue: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1146 > @@ -594,10 +607,14 @@ off-path attackers. The Initial packet uses long headers with a type value of 0x7F. It carries the first cryptographic handshake message sent by the client. -The client populates the connection ID field with randomly selected values, -unless it has received a packet from the server. If the client has received a -packet from the server, the connection ID field uses the value provided by the -server. +If the client has not previously received a Retry packet from the server, it +populates the Destination Connection ID field with a randomly selected value. +This MUST NOT be zero length, but can be any other length. If the client +received a Retry packet and is sending a second Initial packet, then it uses the +value from the Source Connection ID in the Retry packet. + +The client populates the Source Connection ID field with a value of its choosing +and sets the low bits of the ConnID Len field to match. Again same issue with randomness as for vneg. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Nonce use conflicts with routing use of ID

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> +Note(1):
+
+: The Destination Connection ID is of arbitrary length, and it could be zero
+  length if the server sends a Retry packet with a zero-length Source Connection
+  ID field.  In this case, the handshake keys provide no assurance to the client
+  that the server received its packet; the client has to rely on the exchange
+  that included the Retry packet for that property.
+
+Note(2):
+
+: HKDF-Extract uses HMAC {{?RFC2104}}, which produces the same output for values
+  ending in zero octets and values that omit those octets.  Thus,
+  0x12345678900000 and 0x1234567890 produce the same result.  A client is
+  required to randomize the value of Destination Connection ID, which avoids
+  this problem.
+

Can we avoid requiring it to be random, or allow it to be only partially random? If a client has intimate knowledge of the server infrastructure, it might want to route the packet, or add some guidance in the initial destination ID.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -The value in the Unused field is selected randomly by the server. The Connection
-ID field echoes the corresponding value from the triggering client packet.  This
-allows clients some assurance that the server received the packet and that the
-Version Negotiation packet is in fact from the server.  The Version field MUST
-be set to 0x00000000.  The remainder of the Version Negotiation packet is a list
-of 32-bit versions which the server supports.
+The value in the Unused field is selected randomly by the server.
+
+The server MUST include the value from the Source Connection ID field of the
+packet it receives in the Destination Connection ID field; similarly, the value
+of the Source Connection ID field is set to the Destination Connection ID from
+the received packet.  The value for Source Connection ID is randomly selected by
+a client and so gives clients some assurance that the server received the packet
+and that the Version Negotiation packet was not generated by an off-path
+attacker.
+

The the client sends a random source ID, it cannot be used to route the vneg packet back to the client. It could be partially a random. Even if encrypted, it wouldn't really be random. It seems that the need for nonces somewhat conflicts with the idea of using the ID for routing. It could also make the connection ID longer than necessary just to ensure initial entropy that isn't needed subsequently.

vneg routing issue: #1146

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -594,10 +607,14 @@ off-path attackers.
 The Initial packet uses long headers with a type value of 0x7F.  It carries the
 first cryptographic handshake message sent by the client.
 
-The client populates the connection ID field with randomly selected values,
-unless it has received a packet from the server.  If the client has received a
-packet from the server, the connection ID field uses the value provided by the
-server.
+If the client has not previously received a Retry packet from the server, it
+populates the Destination Connection ID field with a randomly selected value.
+This MUST NOT be zero length, but can be any other length.  If the client
+received a Retry packet and is sending a second Initial packet, then it uses the
+value from the Source Connection ID in the Retry packet.
+
+The client populates the Source Connection ID field with a value of its choosing
+and sets the low bits of the ConnID Len field to match.

Again same issue with randomness as for vneg.

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Although it adds even more bulk, it might make sense to include a separate 32 bit nonce value in long headers. It would allow ID's to be routable and ensure entropy even when ID's are not in use.

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A connection ID can be 0 octets in length, +or between 8 and 22 octets (inclusive). Why limit the allowable range to 8 and 22 (inclusively)? Practically, the size just needs to be large enough for the number of connections on a given tuple, right? So if a client only needs to share with a couple of connections, 1 byte might be sufficient. > @@ -435,10 +450,11 @@ The following packet types are defined: | 0x7C | 0-RTT Protected | {{packet-protected}} | {: #long-packet-types title="Long Header Packet Types"} -The header form, packet type, connection ID, packet number and version fields of -a long header packet are version-independent. The types of packets defined in -{{long-packet-types}} are version-specific. See {{QUIC-INVARIANTS}} for -details on how packets from different versions of QUIC are interpreted. +the header form, type, connection ID lengths octet, destination and source Should `the` be capitalized? > -If there is no connection ID, but the packet matches the address/port tuple -of a connection where the host did not require connection IDs, QUIC processes -the packet as part of that connection. Endpoints MUST drop packets that omit -connection IDs if they do not meet both of these criteria. +If the Destination Connection ID is zero length, but the packet matches the +address/port tuple of a connection where the host did not require connection +IDs, QUIC processes the packet as part of that connection. Endpoints MUST drop +packets with zero-length Destination Connection ID fields if they do not meet +both of these criteria. This adds a bit of complexity that I'm not sure is worth it. As I understand it, it would require a look up table of all remote address/port tuples in use, that would have to be checked for every new connection attempt. If we don't do this, and leave it up to the peer to make the smart choice, one of two things happen: 1) The do things correctly and everything works. 2) They have two connections on the same tuple, 1 with a CID and one without. The one without breaks down because it cannot distinguish its short header packets from the other one. If the peer does 2) above, then it's their own fault and they suffer the consequences. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1151#pullrequestreview-100791377 ----==_mimepart_5a9964c1e66c_20bc2b1afdb18ecc82275d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md:

>  
 
 ## Connection ID
 
-A connection ID is an opaque 64-bit field.
+A connection ID is an opaque field.  A connection ID can be 0 octets in length,
+or between 8 and 22 octets (inclusive).

Why limit the allowable range to 8 and 22 (inclusively)? Practically, the size just needs to be large enough for the number of connections on a given tuple, right? So if a client only needs to share with a couple of connections, 1 byte might be sufficient.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -435,10 +450,11 @@ The following packet types are defined:
 | 0x7C | 0-RTT Protected               | {{packet-protected}}        |
 {: #long-packet-types title="Long Header Packet Types"}
 
-The header form, packet type, connection ID, packet number and version fields of
-a long header packet are version-independent. The types of packets defined in
-{{long-packet-types}} are version-specific.  See {{QUIC-INVARIANTS}} for
-details on how packets from different versions of QUIC are interpreted.
+the header form, type, connection ID lengths octet, destination and source

Should the be capitalized?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-If there is no connection ID, but the packet matches the address/port tuple
-of a connection where the host did not require connection IDs, QUIC processes
-the packet as part of that connection. Endpoints MUST drop packets that omit
-connection IDs if they do not meet both of these criteria.
+If the Destination Connection ID is zero length, but the packet matches the
+address/port tuple of a connection where the host did not require connection
+IDs, QUIC processes the packet as part of that connection. Endpoints MUST drop
+packets with zero-length Destination Connection ID fields if they do not meet
+both of these criteria.

This adds a bit of complexity that I'm not sure is worth it. As I understand it, it would require a look up table of all remote address/port tuples in use, that would have to be checked for every new connection attempt. If we don't do this, and leave it up to the peer to make the smart choice, one of two things happen:

  1. The do things correctly and everything works.
  2. They have two connections on the same tuple, 1 with a CID and one without. The one without breaks down because it cannot distinguish its short header packets from the other one.

If the peer does 2) above, then it's their own fault and they suffer the consequences.

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----==_mimepart_5a9964c1e66c_20bc2b1afdb18ecc82275d-- From nobody Fri Mar 2 09:23:56 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D044812DB6D for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2018 09:23:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.029 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.029 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ixi0E0vzHlBw for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2018 09:23:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from o4.sgmail.github.com (o4.sgmail.github.com [192.254.112.99]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1662E12DA6F for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2018 09:23:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=8mmay578/gZp/eydJA8qY/CIJxA=; b=T7lPdET9HN0Y0kUg 5Un9fR0VGyOWePW6/CyFGqvh5iR7H3lNo2z9ixKfA7lploCT+FBv17tbg0RGYsZG ZQPMNSSW8wHwGQERCEbq4VHbwC6SzMxTMA9onRyNcRgx/H1vWcVI/kTnNUnrLAMH RET9hA6YxTNsnwMikbkHdO1Nci4= Received: by filter1003p1mdw1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter1003p1mdw1-27353-5A9988A3-16 2018-03-02 17:23:47.482523684 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0041p1mdw1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id ATM0nHicR1qezR9kw5y8fQ for ; Fri, 02 Mar 2018 17:23:47.432 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2018 17:23:47 +0000 (UTC) From: Subodh Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Generating Acknowledgements (#1139) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a99880ad5e1c_385f3f849d46ef2c4209880"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: siyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak0mvYPuhK9qhN1h3ROiObmh5YxSkA+2tuRYjl k2FUHf4KTLN8ngvmy9VF3Zunr2kLe6PvIzYR27B6NY8X/LeAKryBV6pzlT94H9Ou7PIz0TMc/mnT7d VeJmbkS+xByYRLLjAmkOMCHWtR8yGt6R3DJ3t/5MwMsb7VW6QI2BD0nc/qKwBPD/XBGPy6xOuqB8YL 4= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2018 17:23:55 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a99880ad5e1c_385f3f849d46ef2c4209880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit siyengar commented on this pull request. > +non-ack frames. Specifically, implementaions MUST attempt to +enforce a maximum ack delay to avoid causing the peer spurious +timeouts. The default maximum ack delay in QUIC is 25ms. + +An acknowledgement MAY be sent for every second full-sized segment, +as TCP does {{!RFC5681}}, or may be sent less frequently, as long as +the delay does not exceed the maximum ack delay. QUIC recovery algorithms +do not assume the peer generates an acknowledgement immediately when +receiving a second full-sized segment. + +Out-of-order packets SHOULD be acknowledged more quickly, in order +to accelerate loss recovery. Specifically, the receiver SHOULD send an +immediate ACK when it receieves a packet with a packet number more than +1 larger than the previous largest received packet number. The receiver +SHOULD also send an immediate ACK when it receives a packet that fills +in a gap in the packet numbers. If no packet larger than the packet that might i suggest a different wording. The receiver SHOULD also send an immediate ACK when it receives a packet that is not the next expected packet number. This is how we implement this. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1139#pullrequestreview-100849003 ----==_mimepart_5a99880ad5e1c_385f3f849d46ef2c4209880 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +non-ack frames.  Specifically, implementaions MUST attempt to
+enforce a maximum ack delay to avoid causing the peer spurious
+timeouts.  The default maximum ack delay in QUIC is 25ms.
+
+An acknowledgement MAY be sent for every second full-sized segment,
+as TCP does {{!RFC5681}}, or may be sent less frequently, as long as
+the delay does not exceed the maximum ack delay.  QUIC recovery algorithms
+do not assume the peer generates an acknowledgement immediately when
+receiving a second full-sized segment.
+
+Out-of-order packets SHOULD be acknowledged more quickly, in order
+to accelerate loss recovery.  Specifically, the receiver SHOULD send an
+immediate ACK when it receieves a packet with a packet number more than
+1 larger than the previous largest received packet number. The receiver
+SHOULD also send an immediate ACK when it receives a packet that fills
+in a gap in the packet numbers.  If no packet larger than the packet that

might i suggest a different wording.

The receiver SHOULD also send an immediate ACK when it receives a packet that is not the next expected packet number.

This is how we implement this.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +non-ack frames.  Specifically, implementaions MUST attempt to
+enforce a maximum ack delay to avoid causing the peer spurious
+timeouts.  The default maximum ack delay in QUIC is 25ms.
+
+An acknowledgement MAY be sent for every second full-sized segment,
+as TCP does {{!RFC5681}}, or may be sent less frequently, as long as
+the delay does not exceed the maximum ack delay.  QUIC recovery algorithms
+do not assume the peer generates an acknowledgement immediately when
+receiving a second full-sized segment.
+
+Out-of-order packets SHOULD be acknowledged more quickly, in order
+to accelerate loss recovery.  Specifically, the receiver SHOULD send an
+immediate ACK when it receieves a packet with a packet number more than
+1 larger than the previous largest received packet number. The receiver
+SHOULD also send an immediate ACK when it receives a packet that fills
+in a gap in the packet numbers.  If no packet larger than the packet that

i.e. i think this covers the case of a gap being filled.

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I like the approach. Minor nit: "zero-length" is definitely hyphenated when used as an adjective preceding a noun. It might also be hyphenated when used as an adjective with "is", but I'm less certain on that. > @@ -135,12 +135,12 @@ version-specific semantics are marked with an X. ~~~ 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ -|1|X X X X X X X| ++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ +|1|X X X X X X X| ConnID Len(8) | Given the description below, it might be clearer to show this as two four-bit fields. > +Note(1): + +: The Destination Connection ID is of arbitrary length, and it could be zero + length if the server sends a Retry packet with a zero-length Source Connection + ID field. In this case, the handshake keys provide no assurance to the client + that the server received its packet; the client has to rely on the exchange + that included the Retry packet for that property. + +Note(2): + +: HKDF-Extract uses HMAC {{?RFC2104}}, which produces the same output for values + ending in zero octets and values that omit those octets. Thus, + 0x12345678900000 and 0x1234567890 produce the same result. A client is + required to randomize the value of Destination Connection ID, which avoids + this problem. + Tempting to simply require that the final octet not be zero. If the client has knowledge of how to generate a Connection ID, it can respin in the 1/16 chance it generates one that ends in zeros. Or alternatively, append a fixed non-zero octet to the Connection ID to side-step this problem. > @@ -288,16 +289,12 @@ processing. ## Connection Migration and Resilience to NAT Rebinding -QUIC connections are identified by a Connection ID, a 64-bit unsigned number -randomly generated by the server. QUIC's consistent connection ID allows -connections to survive changes to the client's IP and port, such as those caused -by NAT rebindings or by the client changing network connectivity to a new -address. QUIC provides automatic cryptographic verification of a rebound client, -since the client continues to use the same session key for encrypting and -decrypting packets. The consistent connection ID can be used to allow migration -of the connection to a new server IP address as well, since the Connection ID -remains consistent across changes in the client's and the server's network -addresses. +QUIC connections carry a connection ID, an opaque value assigned by the intended +recipient of the packet. Using a consistent connection ID allows connections to +survive changes to the sender's IP and port, such as those caused by NAT +rebindings or by changes in network connectivity. QUIC provides mechanisms that "mechanisms to," I'd say. The verification doesn't happen by itself. > -QUIC connections are identified by a Connection ID, a 64-bit unsigned number -randomly generated by the server. QUIC's consistent connection ID allows -connections to survive changes to the client's IP and port, such as those caused -by NAT rebindings or by the client changing network connectivity to a new -address. QUIC provides automatic cryptographic verification of a rebound client, -since the client continues to use the same session key for encrypting and -decrypting packets. The consistent connection ID can be used to allow migration -of the connection to a new server IP address as well, since the Connection ID -remains consistent across changes in the client's and the server's network -addresses. +QUIC connections carry a connection ID, an opaque value assigned by the intended +recipient of the packet. Using a consistent connection ID allows connections to +survive changes to the sender's IP and port, such as those caused by NAT +rebindings or by changes in network connectivity. QUIC provides mechanisms that +verify addresses of endpoints that change network connectivity, while +maintaining session continuity. This phrase doesn't feel right with a comma, but without the comma it's ambiguous which idea it's referring to. Maybe reword? > @@ -370,12 +367,12 @@ keys are established. ~~~~~ 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ -|1| Type (7) | ++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ +|1| Type (7) | ConnID Len(8) | Same here. > @@ -435,10 +450,11 @@ The following packet types are defined: | 0x7C | 0-RTT Protected | {{packet-protected}} | {: #long-packet-types title="Long Header Packet Types"} -The header form, packet type, connection ID, packet number and version fields of -a long header packet are version-independent. The types of packets defined in -{{long-packet-types}} are version-specific. See {{QUIC-INVARIANTS}} for -details on how packets from different versions of QUIC are interpreted. +the header form, type, connection ID lengths octet, destination and source Yes, it should. > -The value in the Unused field is selected randomly by the server. The Connection -ID field echoes the corresponding value from the triggering client packet. This -allows clients some assurance that the server received the packet and that the -Version Negotiation packet is in fact from the server. The Version field MUST -be set to 0x00000000. The remainder of the Version Negotiation packet is a list -of 32-bit versions which the server supports. +The value in the Unused field is selected randomly by the server. + +The server MUST include the value from the Source Connection ID field of the +packet it receives in the Destination Connection ID field; similarly, the value +of the Source Connection ID field is set to the Destination Connection ID from +the received packet. The value for Source Connection ID is randomly selected by +a client and so gives clients some assurance that the server received the packet +and that the Version Negotiation packet was not generated by an off-path +attacker. + This also conflicts with a paragraph or so lower, which says that the Source CID is "of [the client's] choosing" and later says "this might be a zero length value." > @@ -623,8 +640,13 @@ A Retry packet uses long headers with a type value of 0x7E. It carries cryptographic handshake messages and acknowledgments. It is used by a server that wishes to perform a stateless retry (see {{stateless-retry}}). -The server includes a connection ID of its choice in the connection ID field. -The client MUST use this connection ID for any subsequent packets that it sends. +The server populates the Destination Connection ID with the connection ID that +the client included in the Source Connection ID of the Initial packet. This +might be a zero length value. Adjective preceding a noun, so zero-length. > -The client MUST choose a random connection ID and use it in Initial packets -({{packet-initial}}) and 0-RTT packets ({{packet-protected}}). +During the handshake, packets with the long header are used to establish the +Destination Connection ID that each endpoint uses. Each endpoint sends the +value that they wish their peer to use in the Source Connection ID field. Upon It should be clear from context, but the sentence by itself is slightly ambiguous. Perhaps "Each endpoint uses the Source Connection ID field to communicate the CID which should be used in the Destination CID field of packets being sent to them."? > -The client MUST choose a random connection ID and use it in Initial packets -({{packet-initial}}) and 0-RTT packets ({{packet-protected}}). +During the handshake, packets with the long header are used to establish the +Destination Connection ID that each endpoint uses. Each endpoint sends the +value that they wish their peer to use in the Source Connection ID field. Upon +receiving a packet, each endpoint sets the Destination Connection ID to match +the value of the Source Connection ID that they receive. Discussion of receiving multiple packets with differing Source CID fields might be warranted. Do I set this value every time I receive a packet? First time I see a change? What if the change isn't until later? > -Once the client receives the connection ID that the server has chosen, it MUST -use it for all subsequent Handshake ({{packet-handshake}}) and 1-RTT -({{packet-protected}}) packets but not for 0-RTT packets ({{packet-protected}}). +The very first packet sent by a client client includes a random value for +Destination Connection ID. The same value MUST be used for all 0-RTT packets +sent on that connection ({{packet-protected}}). This randomized value is used +to determine the handshake packet protection keys (see Section 5.2.2 of +{{QUIC-TLS}}). Server's Version Negotiation ({{packet-version}}) and Retry ({{packet-retry}}) packets MUST use connection ID selected by the client. I know you didn't touch this, but it's missing a "the." Also, should this say "both Source and Destination CIDs"? > -If there is no connection ID, but the packet matches the address/port tuple -of a connection where the host did not require connection IDs, QUIC processes -the packet as part of that connection. Endpoints MUST drop packets that omit -connection IDs if they do not meet both of these criteria. +If the Destination Connection ID is zero length, but the packet matches the +address/port tuple of a connection where the host did not require connection +IDs, QUIC processes the packet as part of that connection. Endpoints MUST drop +packets with zero-length Destination Connection ID fields if they do not meet +both of these criteria. With the `omit` setting removed, I think there is no more "did not require Connection IDs," only connections where the Connection ID is zero-length. At that point, this is a duplicate of CID collision. In that case, the language can be something like "If the Destination Connection ID matches multiple connections (such as because they all have zero-length connection IDs), the address/port tuple is used to identify the correct connection. Endpoints MUST drop packets with zero-length connection IDs if they cannot be matched to a connection." > +{{packet-number-gap}}. Packet number gaps are cumulative. An endpoint might +skip connection IDs, but it MUST ensure that it applies the associated packet +number gaps for connection IDs that it skips in addition to the packet number +gap associated with the connection ID that it does use. + +An endpoint that receives a packet that is marked with a new connection ID +recovers the packet number by adding the cumulative packet number gap to its +expected packet number. An endpoint MUST discard packets that contain a smaller +gap than it advertised. + +An endpoint that receives a packet from a new address with either a previously +unused connection ID or an empty connection ID MUST use the next available +connection ID for any packets it sends to that address. Failing to do this +would allow for use of that connection ID to link activity on new paths. An +endpoint SHOULD use a new connection ID if it observes a change in address +without a change in connection ID. To avoid linkability, we also should say that if you observe a change in the peer's connection ID, you should also change CIDs yourself. Otherwise, the connection IDs in the reverse direction provide correlation. > @@ -2320,15 +2352,28 @@ Sequence: the value selected during the handshake comes immediately before the first value that a server can send. +Length: + +: An 8-bit unsigned integer containing the length of the connection ID. Values + less than 8 and greater than 22 are invalid and MUST be treated as a + connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION. You have the room here to spell it out, but there's something to be said for using the same encoding other places the length is written. Maybe just use four bits and zero/ignore the upper four? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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I like the approach.

Minor nit: "zero-length" is definitely hyphenated when used as an adjective preceding a noun. It might also be hyphenated when used as an adjective with "is", but I'm less certain on that.

In draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md:

> @@ -135,12 +135,12 @@ version-specific semantics are marked with an X.
 ~~~
  0                   1                   2                   3
  0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
-|1|X X X X X X X|
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+|1|X X X X X X X| ConnID Len(8) |

Given the description below, it might be clearer to show this as two four-bit fields.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> +Note(1):
+
+: The Destination Connection ID is of arbitrary length, and it could be zero
+  length if the server sends a Retry packet with a zero-length Source Connection
+  ID field.  In this case, the handshake keys provide no assurance to the client
+  that the server received its packet; the client has to rely on the exchange
+  that included the Retry packet for that property.
+
+Note(2):
+
+: HKDF-Extract uses HMAC {{?RFC2104}}, which produces the same output for values
+  ending in zero octets and values that omit those octets.  Thus,
+  0x12345678900000 and 0x1234567890 produce the same result.  A client is
+  required to randomize the value of Destination Connection ID, which avoids
+  this problem.
+

Tempting to simply require that the final octet not be zero. If the client has knowledge of how to generate a Connection ID, it can respin in the 1/16 chance it generates one that ends in zeros.

Or alternatively, append a fixed non-zero octet to the Connection ID to side-step this problem.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -288,16 +289,12 @@ processing.
 
 ## Connection Migration and Resilience to NAT Rebinding
 
-QUIC connections are identified by a Connection ID, a 64-bit unsigned number
-randomly generated by the server.  QUIC's consistent connection ID allows
-connections to survive changes to the client's IP and port, such as those caused
-by NAT rebindings or by the client changing network connectivity to a new
-address. QUIC provides automatic cryptographic verification of a rebound client,
-since the client continues to use the same session key for encrypting and
-decrypting packets. The consistent connection ID can be used to allow migration
-of the connection to a new server IP address as well, since the Connection ID
-remains consistent across changes in the client's and the server's network
-addresses.
+QUIC connections carry a connection ID, an opaque value assigned by the intended
+recipient of the packet.  Using a consistent connection ID allows connections to
+survive changes to the sender's IP and port, such as those caused by NAT
+rebindings or by changes in network connectivity.  QUIC provides mechanisms that

"mechanisms to," I'd say. The verification doesn't happen by itself.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -QUIC connections are identified by a Connection ID, a 64-bit unsigned number
-randomly generated by the server.  QUIC's consistent connection ID allows
-connections to survive changes to the client's IP and port, such as those caused
-by NAT rebindings or by the client changing network connectivity to a new
-address. QUIC provides automatic cryptographic verification of a rebound client,
-since the client continues to use the same session key for encrypting and
-decrypting packets. The consistent connection ID can be used to allow migration
-of the connection to a new server IP address as well, since the Connection ID
-remains consistent across changes in the client's and the server's network
-addresses.
+QUIC connections carry a connection ID, an opaque value assigned by the intended
+recipient of the packet.  Using a consistent connection ID allows connections to
+survive changes to the sender's IP and port, such as those caused by NAT
+rebindings or by changes in network connectivity.  QUIC provides mechanisms that
+verify addresses of endpoints that change network connectivity, while
+maintaining session continuity.

This phrase doesn't feel right with a comma, but without the comma it's ambiguous which idea it's referring to. Maybe reword?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -370,12 +367,12 @@ keys are established.
 ~~~~~
  0                   1                   2                   3
  0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
-|1|   Type (7)  |
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+|1|   Type (7)  | ConnID Len(8) |

Same here.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -435,10 +450,11 @@ The following packet types are defined:
 | 0x7C | 0-RTT Protected               | {{packet-protected}}        |
 {: #long-packet-types title="Long Header Packet Types"}
 
-The header form, packet type, connection ID, packet number and version fields of
-a long header packet are version-independent. The types of packets defined in
-{{long-packet-types}} are version-specific.  See {{QUIC-INVARIANTS}} for
-details on how packets from different versions of QUIC are interpreted.
+the header form, type, connection ID lengths octet, destination and source

Yes, it should.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -The value in the Unused field is selected randomly by the server. The Connection
-ID field echoes the corresponding value from the triggering client packet.  This
-allows clients some assurance that the server received the packet and that the
-Version Negotiation packet is in fact from the server.  The Version field MUST
-be set to 0x00000000.  The remainder of the Version Negotiation packet is a list
-of 32-bit versions which the server supports.
+The value in the Unused field is selected randomly by the server.
+
+The server MUST include the value from the Source Connection ID field of the
+packet it receives in the Destination Connection ID field; similarly, the value
+of the Source Connection ID field is set to the Destination Connection ID from
+the received packet.  The value for Source Connection ID is randomly selected by
+a client and so gives clients some assurance that the server received the packet
+and that the Version Negotiation packet was not generated by an off-path
+attacker.
+

This also conflicts with a paragraph or so lower, which says that the Source CID is "of [the client's] choosing" and later says "this might be a zero length value."

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -623,8 +640,13 @@ A Retry packet uses long headers with a type value of 0x7E.  It carries
 cryptographic handshake messages and acknowledgments.  It is used by a server
 that wishes to perform a stateless retry (see {{stateless-retry}}).
 
-The server includes a connection ID of its choice in the connection ID field.
-The client MUST use this connection ID for any subsequent packets that it sends.
+The server populates the Destination Connection ID with the connection ID that
+the client included in the Source Connection ID of the Initial packet.  This
+might be a zero length value.

Adjective preceding a noun, so zero-length.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-The client MUST choose a random connection ID and use it in Initial packets
-({{packet-initial}}) and 0-RTT packets ({{packet-protected}}).
+During the handshake, packets with the long header are used to establish the
+Destination Connection ID that each endpoint uses.  Each endpoint sends the
+value that they wish their peer to use in the Source Connection ID field.  Upon

It should be clear from context, but the sentence by itself is slightly ambiguous. Perhaps "Each endpoint uses the Source Connection ID field to communicate the CID which should be used in the Destination CID field of packets being sent to them."?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-The client MUST choose a random connection ID and use it in Initial packets
-({{packet-initial}}) and 0-RTT packets ({{packet-protected}}).
+During the handshake, packets with the long header are used to establish the
+Destination Connection ID that each endpoint uses.  Each endpoint sends the
+value that they wish their peer to use in the Source Connection ID field.  Upon
+receiving a packet, each endpoint sets the Destination Connection ID to match
+the value of the Source Connection ID that they receive.

Discussion of receiving multiple packets with differing Source CID fields might be warranted. Do I set this value every time I receive a packet? First time I see a change? What if the change isn't until later?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-Once the client receives the connection ID that the server has chosen, it MUST
-use it for all subsequent Handshake ({{packet-handshake}}) and 1-RTT
-({{packet-protected}}) packets but not for 0-RTT packets ({{packet-protected}}).
+The very first packet sent by a client client includes a random value for
+Destination Connection ID.  The same value MUST be used for all 0-RTT packets
+sent on that connection ({{packet-protected}}).  This randomized value is used
+to determine the handshake packet protection keys (see Section 5.2.2 of
+{{QUIC-TLS}}).
 
 Server's Version Negotiation ({{packet-version}}) and Retry ({{packet-retry}})
 packets MUST use connection ID selected by the client.

I know you didn't touch this, but it's missing a "the." Also, should this say "both Source and Destination CIDs"?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-If there is no connection ID, but the packet matches the address/port tuple
-of a connection where the host did not require connection IDs, QUIC processes
-the packet as part of that connection. Endpoints MUST drop packets that omit
-connection IDs if they do not meet both of these criteria.
+If the Destination Connection ID is zero length, but the packet matches the
+address/port tuple of a connection where the host did not require connection
+IDs, QUIC processes the packet as part of that connection. Endpoints MUST drop
+packets with zero-length Destination Connection ID fields if they do not meet
+both of these criteria.

With the omit setting removed, I think there is no more "did not require Connection IDs," only connections where the Connection ID is zero-length. At that point, this is a duplicate of CID collision.

In that case, the language can be something like "If the Destination Connection ID matches multiple connections (such as because they all have zero-length connection IDs), the address/port tuple is used to identify the correct connection. Endpoints MUST drop packets with zero-length connection IDs if they cannot be matched to a connection."

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +{{packet-number-gap}}. Packet number gaps are cumulative.  An endpoint might
+skip connection IDs, but it MUST ensure that it applies the associated packet
+number gaps for connection IDs that it skips in addition to the packet number
+gap associated with the connection ID that it does use.
+
+An endpoint that receives a packet that is marked with a new connection ID
+recovers the packet number by adding the cumulative packet number gap to its
+expected packet number.  An endpoint MUST discard packets that contain a smaller
+gap than it advertised.
+
+An endpoint that receives a packet from a new address with either a previously
+unused connection ID or an empty connection ID MUST use the next available
+connection ID for any packets it sends to that address.  Failing to do this
+would allow for use of that connection ID to link activity on new paths.  An
+endpoint SHOULD use a new connection ID if it observes a change in address
+without a change in connection ID.

To avoid linkability, we also should say that if you observe a change in the peer's connection ID, you should also change CIDs yourself. Otherwise, the connection IDs in the reverse direction provide correlation.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2320,15 +2352,28 @@ Sequence:
   the value selected during the handshake comes immediately before the first
   value that a server can send.
 
+Length:
+
+: An 8-bit unsigned integer containing the length of the connection ID.  Values
+  less than 8 and greater than 22 are invalid and MUST be treated as a
+  connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.

You have the room here to spell it out, but there's something to be said for using the same encoding other places the length is written. Maybe just use four bits and zero/ignore the upper four?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-If there is no connection ID, but the packet matches the address/port tuple
-of a connection where the host did not require connection IDs, QUIC processes
-the packet as part of that connection. Endpoints MUST drop packets that omit
-connection IDs if they do not meet both of these criteria.
+If the Destination Connection ID is zero length, but the packet matches the
+address/port tuple of a connection where the host did not require connection
+IDs, QUIC processes the packet as part of that connection. Endpoints MUST drop
+packets with zero-length Destination Connection ID fields if they do not meet
+both of these criteria.

For short headers, an endpoint can simplify its job by always using the same length CID, but if it doesn't then it probably needs to keep the connections in a tree by CID. Check the first byte, see if there are any CIDs that begin with that byte, and so on, until it either finds a complete match or a lookup failure.

Then, if there's a lookup failure, it might have been zero-length and you were accidentally reading the packet number and encrypted payload as a CID. So now you look into your separate bag of connections where the CID is zero-length and try to match by tuple.

But wait! You also might have had a collision between the packet number and a CID, so packets which can't be validated by the selected connection also need to be checked against the zero-length set. And we pray that doesn't happen very often, because this seems like the worst-case path through the code.

Ick.

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Thanks for writing this up, only one substantive comment(same as Nick's) about short conn IDs > @@ -150,10 +150,25 @@ version-specific semantics are marked with an X. {: #fig-long title="QUIC Long Header"} A QUIC packet with a long header has the high bit of the first octet set to 1. +All other bits in that octet are version specific. + +The next octet contains the length in octets of the two Connection IDs (see +{{connection-id}}) that follow. Each length is encoded as a 4 bit unsigned +integer. The length of the Destination Connection ID occupies the high bits of +the octet and the length of the Source Connection ID occupying the low bits of +the octet. An encoded length of 0 indicates that the connection ID is also 0 I think there are valid use cases for shorter connection IDs(ie: 4 bytes in particular), so I'd be biased towards using 5 bits for each length. I'm not sure if I'd want to overlap this with the first byte to reduce the number of bits we'd want to grease or just deal with randomizing 3 bits in each byte. > -A QUIC packet with a long header has two fixed fields immediately following the -first octet: a 64-bit Connection ID (see {{connection-id}}) and a 32-bit Version -(see {{version}}). +The connection ID lengths are followed by connection IDs. The connection ID +selected by the recipient of the packet (the Destination Connection ID) is +followed by the connection ID selected by the sender of the packet (the Source +Connection ID). + +After both Connection IDs, a 32-bit Version (see {{version}}) is followed by a +version-specific payload. Not in this PR, but I think moving to varlen connection IDs motivates moving the version in front of the connection IDs, because then it's in a fixed spot, which is nice. Previously the connection ID was always in a fixed spot, but now it's offset changes by 1 byte based on long/short header anyway, so we might as well have it move by 5 bytes instead of 1. Conveniently, an 8 byte connection ID fits into a typical 16 byte cacheline in either location. This isn't to say that the connection ID format in long headers should be removed from the invariants, because I think that turns out to be impractical. > @@ -594,10 +607,14 @@ off-path attackers. The Initial packet uses long headers with a type value of 0x7F. It carries the first cryptographic handshake message sent by the client. -The client populates the connection ID field with randomly selected values, -unless it has received a packet from the server. If the client has received a -packet from the server, the connection ID field uses the value provided by the -server. +If the client has not previously received a Retry packet from the server, it +populates the Destination Connection ID field with a randomly selected value. +This MUST NOT be zero length, but can be any other length. If the client nit: I think it reads more cleanly to say "This MUST be at least 8 bytes." -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1151#pullrequestreview-100871459 ----==_mimepart_5a999fb36b3f7_16692af3d7e64ed412218ec Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@ianswett commented on this pull request.

Thanks for writing this up, only one substantive comment(same as Nick's) about short conn IDs

In draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md:

> @@ -150,10 +150,25 @@ version-specific semantics are marked with an X.
 {: #fig-long title="QUIC Long Header"}
 
 A QUIC packet with a long header has the high bit of the first octet set to 1.
+All other bits in that octet are version specific.
+
+The next octet contains the length in octets of the two Connection IDs (see
+{{connection-id}}) that follow.  Each length is encoded as a 4 bit unsigned
+integer.  The length of the Destination Connection ID occupies the high bits of
+the octet and the length of the Source Connection ID occupying the low bits of
+the octet.  An encoded length of 0 indicates that the connection ID is also 0

I think there are valid use cases for shorter connection IDs(ie: 4 bytes in particular), so I'd be biased towards using 5 bits for each length. I'm not sure if I'd want to overlap this with the first byte to reduce the number of bits we'd want to grease or just deal with randomizing 3 bits in each byte.

In draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md:

>  
-A QUIC packet with a long header has two fixed fields immediately following the
-first octet: a 64-bit Connection ID (see {{connection-id}}) and a 32-bit Version
-(see {{version}}).
+The connection ID lengths are followed by connection IDs.  The connection ID
+selected by the recipient of the packet (the Destination Connection ID) is
+followed by the connection ID selected by the sender of the packet (the Source
+Connection ID).
+
+After both Connection IDs, a 32-bit Version (see {{version}}) is followed by a
+version-specific payload.

Not in this PR, but I think moving to varlen connection IDs motivates moving the version in front of the connection IDs, because then it's in a fixed spot, which is nice.

Previously the connection ID was always in a fixed spot, but now it's offset changes by 1 byte based on long/short header anyway, so we might as well have it move by 5 bytes instead of 1. Conveniently, an 8 byte connection ID fits into a typical 16 byte cacheline in either location.

This isn't to say that the connection ID format in long headers should be removed from the invariants, because I think that turns out to be impractical.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -594,10 +607,14 @@ off-path attackers.
 The Initial packet uses long headers with a type value of 0x7F.  It carries the
 first cryptographic handshake message sent by the client.
 
-The client populates the connection ID field with randomly selected values,
-unless it has received a packet from the server.  If the client has received a
-packet from the server, the connection ID field uses the value provided by the
-server.
+If the client has not previously received a Retry packet from the server, it
+populates the Destination Connection ID field with a randomly selected value.
+This MUST NOT be zero length, but can be any other length.  If the client

nit: I think it reads more cleanly to say "This MUST be at least 8 bytes."

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Thanks, I tried to address all comments, PTAL. > +non-ack frames. Specifically, implementaions MUST attempt to +enforce a maximum ack delay to avoid causing the peer spurious +timeouts. The default maximum ack delay in QUIC is 25ms. + +An acknowledgement MAY be sent for every second full-sized segment, +as TCP does {{!RFC5681}}, or may be sent less frequently, as long as +the delay does not exceed the maximum ack delay. QUIC recovery algorithms +do not assume the peer generates an acknowledgement immediately when +receiving a second full-sized segment. + +Out-of-order packets SHOULD be acknowledged more quickly, in order +to accelerate loss recovery. Specifically, the receiver SHOULD send an +immediate ACK when it receieves a packet with a packet number more than +1 larger than the previous largest received packet number. The receiver +SHOULD also send an immediate ACK when it receives a packet that fills +in a gap in the packet numbers. If no packet larger than the packet that Agreed that's a good algorithm. Updated and I tried to reword the bulk receiving text to be clearer. Suggestions welcome. > @@ -437,33 +437,44 @@ do not assume the peer generates an acknowledgement immediately when receiving a second full-sized segment. Out-of-order packets SHOULD be acknowledged more quickly, in order -to accelerate loss recovery. The receiver SHOULD send an immediate -ACK when it receives a packet that fills in a gap in the packet numbers -if it has already acknowledged a larger packet number. If it has not -sent an acknowledgement for the larger packet and there are no other -recent gaps, then it may revert to the standard delayed ack algorithm. +to accelerate loss recovery. Specifically, the receiver SHOULD send an +immediate ACK when it receieves a packet with a packet number more than +1 larger than the previous largest received packet number. The receiver +SHOULD also send an immediate ACK when it receives a packet that fills +in a gap in the packet numbers. If no packet larger than the packet that +fills a gap has been acknowledged, then the peer will not invoke fast +recovery and it may use the standard delayed ack algorithm. This +circumstance may arise from delaying ack transmission when +processing multiple packets. I completely rewrote this because it was confusing. Can you take a look at the new text? > When a packet containing an ACK frame is sent, the largest acked in that -frame is saved. When a packet containing an ACK frame is acknowledged, -the receiver stops acknowledging packets less than or equal to the largest -acked in the sent ACK frame. This approach is not sensitive to packet loss -and allows for over 1 round trip of reordering. +frame may be saved. When a packet containing an ACK frame is acknowledged, +the receiver can stop acknowledging packets less than or equal to the +largest acked in the sent ACK frame. + +This approach does not guarantee every acknowledgement is seen by the +sender before it is no longer included in the ack frame, because packets +could be received out of order and all subsequent ACK frames containing them +could be lost. It does guarantee the sender is making forward progress and I added this and then completely reworked the paragraph. PTAL. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1139#pullrequestreview-100893809 ----==_mimepart_5a99ae5ba79fa_3ff03fcb9b876f301031ca Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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Thanks, I tried to address all comments, PTAL.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +non-ack frames.  Specifically, implementaions MUST attempt to
+enforce a maximum ack delay to avoid causing the peer spurious
+timeouts.  The default maximum ack delay in QUIC is 25ms.
+
+An acknowledgement MAY be sent for every second full-sized segment,
+as TCP does {{!RFC5681}}, or may be sent less frequently, as long as
+the delay does not exceed the maximum ack delay.  QUIC recovery algorithms
+do not assume the peer generates an acknowledgement immediately when
+receiving a second full-sized segment.
+
+Out-of-order packets SHOULD be acknowledged more quickly, in order
+to accelerate loss recovery.  Specifically, the receiver SHOULD send an
+immediate ACK when it receieves a packet with a packet number more than
+1 larger than the previous largest received packet number. The receiver
+SHOULD also send an immediate ACK when it receives a packet that fills
+in a gap in the packet numbers.  If no packet larger than the packet that

Agreed that's a good algorithm. Updated and I tried to reword the bulk receiving text to be clearer. Suggestions welcome.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -437,33 +437,44 @@ do not assume the peer generates an acknowledgement immediately when
 receiving a second full-sized segment.
 
 Out-of-order packets SHOULD be acknowledged more quickly, in order
-to accelerate loss recovery.  The receiver SHOULD send an immediate
-ACK when it receives a packet that fills in a gap in the packet numbers
-if it has already acknowledged a larger packet number.  If it has not
-sent an acknowledgement for the larger packet and there are no other
-recent gaps, then it may revert to the standard delayed ack algorithm.
+to accelerate loss recovery.  Specifically, the receiver SHOULD send an
+immediate ACK when it receieves a packet with a packet number more than
+1 larger than the previous largest received packet number. The receiver
+SHOULD also send an immediate ACK when it receives a packet that fills
+in a gap in the packet numbers.  If no packet larger than the packet that
+fills a gap has been acknowledged, then the peer will not invoke fast
+recovery and it may use the standard delayed ack algorithm.  This
+circumstance may arise from delaying ack transmission when
+processing multiple packets.

I completely rewrote this because it was confusing. Can you take a look at the new text?

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  
 When a packet containing an ACK frame is sent, the largest acked in that
-frame is saved.  When a packet containing an ACK frame is acknowledged,
-the receiver stops acknowledging packets less than or equal to the largest
-acked in the sent ACK frame.  This approach is not sensitive to packet loss
-and allows for over 1 round trip of reordering.
+frame may be saved.  When a packet containing an ACK frame is acknowledged,
+the receiver can stop acknowledging packets less than or equal to the
+largest acked in the sent ACK frame.
+
+This approach does not guarantee every acknowledgement is seen by the
+sender before it is no longer included in the ack frame, because packets
+could be received out of order and all subsequent ACK frames containing them
+could be lost.  It does guarantee the sender is making forward progress and

I added this and then completely reworked the paragraph. PTAL.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -422,6 +422,58 @@ is available.
 (TODO: Work this section some more. Add text on client vs. server, and on
 stateless retry.)
 
+## Generating Acknowledgements
+
+QUIC SHOULD delay sending acknowledgements in response to packets,
+but MUST NOT excessively delay acknowledgements of packets containing
+non-ack frames.  Specifically, implementaions MUST attempt to
+enforce a maximum ack delay to avoid causing the peer spurious
+timeouts.  The default maximum ack delay in QUIC is 25ms.
+
+An acknowledgement MAY be sent for every second full-sized segment,
+as TCP does {{!RFC5681}}, or may be sent less frequently, as long as
+the delay does not exceed the maximum ack delay.  QUIC recovery algorithms

or it may ...
The segment terminology is a bit foreign if you are not up to speed on TCP.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +but MUST NOT excessively delay acknowledgements of packets containing
+non-ack frames.  Specifically, implementaions MUST attempt to
+enforce a maximum ack delay to avoid causing the peer spurious
+timeouts.  The default maximum ack delay in QUIC is 25ms.
+
+An acknowledgement MAY be sent for every second full-sized segment,
+as TCP does {{!RFC5681}}, or may be sent less frequently, as long as
+the delay does not exceed the maximum ack delay.  QUIC recovery algorithms
+do not assume the peer generates an acknowledgement immediately when
+receiving a second full-sized segment.
+
+Out-of-order packets SHOULD be acknowledged more quickly, in order
+to accelerate loss recovery.  The receiver SHOULD send an immediate ACK
+when it receives a new packet which is not one greater than the
+largest received packet number.  If a receiver processes multiple
+packets before sending any ACK frames in response, they MAY not

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----==_mimepart_5a99d431696b9_14683f89a85daf2c4055a9-- From nobody Fri Mar 2 15:24:54 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48F581242EA for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2018 15:24:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6L3UJI9wqOSP for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2018 15:24:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2-ext4.iad.github.net [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 88BD91200C1 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2018 15:24:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2018 15:24:49 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1520033089; bh=zGzqHVIWxJT2GktgIB9DNoKAkCn4j4TGRgqrMkUudC8=; h=From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=stLVVAHnbxbakt42byDbgDDSfwEoEuFp2+8VBToxvczF+15w4rZC1ZUcxT44QVMwf Xc4MoRa36jmCa1Kf9epjM02U/B5P0VttyDXUgs3gmESMh8p1hNywwKvLdQZK0hKCf8 aO55D7OBZ3dJ9LLBUAs0D0s9KC9lHGvuWSOAtP/g= From: ekr Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Symmetric connection IDs (#1151) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a99dd4197285_77333fb489d08f2c179376"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ekr X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2018 23:24:52 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a99dd4197285_77333fb489d08f2c179376 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ekr commented on this pull request. > -A QUIC packet with a long header has two fixed fields immediately following the -first octet: a 64-bit Connection ID (see {{connection-id}}) and a 32-bit Version -(see {{version}}). +The connection ID lengths are followed by connection IDs. The connection ID perhaps "by the connection IDs" > @@ -150,10 +150,25 @@ version-specific semantics are marked with an X. {: #fig-long title="QUIC Long Header"} A QUIC packet with a long header has the high bit of the first octet set to 1. +All other bits in that octet are version specific. + +The next octet contains the length in octets of the two Connection IDs (see +{{connection-id}}) that follow. Each length is encoded as a 4 bit unsigned +integer. The length of the Destination Connection ID occupies the high bits of +the octet and the length of the Source Connection ID occupying the low bits of +the octet. An encoded length of 0 indicates that the connection ID is also 0 +1 to Ian here. > -A QUIC packet with a long header has two fixed fields immediately following the -first octet: a 64-bit Connection ID (see {{connection-id}}) and a 32-bit Version -(see {{version}}). +The connection ID lengths are followed by connection IDs. The connection ID +selected by the recipient of the packet (the Destination Connection ID) is This isn't quite correct for the initial Initial packet. Maybe "associated with the recipient" > @@ -552,7 +552,8 @@ older than 1.3 is negotiated. QUIC requires that the initial handshake packet from a client fit within the payload of a single packet. The size limits on QUIC packets mean that a record -containing a ClientHello needs to fit within 1171 octets. +containing a ClientHello needs to fit within 1131 octets, though endpoints can +reduce the size of their connection ID to increase by up to 22 octets. You'll of course need to change this if you ahnge the length encoding. > @@ -679,13 +680,13 @@ client packet protection key would use HKDF-Expand with an `info` parameter of ### Handshake Secrets {#handshake-secrets} Packets that carry the TLS handshake (Initial, Retry, and Handshake) are -protected with a secret derived from the connection ID used in the client's -Initial packet. Specifically: +protected with a secret derived from the Destination Connection ID field from +the client's Initial packet. Specifically: Good catch. > @@ -703,6 +704,22 @@ ensuring that the keys are different for each version of QUIC. This prevents a middlebox that only recognizes one version of QUIC from seeing or modifying the contents of handshake packets from future versions. +Note(1): + +: The Destination Connection ID is of arbitrary length, and it could be zero + length if the server sends a Retry packet with a zero-length Source Connection + ID field. In this case, the handshake keys provide no assurance to the client + that the server received its packet; the client has to rely on the exchange + that included the Retry packet for that property. + +Note(2): + +: HKDF-Extract uses HMAC {{?RFC2104}}, which produces the same output for values + ending in zero octets and values that omit those octets. Thus, + 0x12345678900000 and 0x1234567890 produce the same result. A client is + required to randomize the value of Destination Connection ID, which avoids + this problem. I believe this is incorrect. HKDF-Extract is: ``` PRK = HMAC-Hash(salt, IKM) ``` In this case, salt is the handshake_salt (used as the HMAC key) and the CID is the IKM (used as the message. HMAC does right-pad the key with 0s (before XORing in the pad) but it does not handle the message that way. > @@ -288,16 +289,12 @@ processing. ## Connection Migration and Resilience to NAT Rebinding -QUIC connections are identified by a Connection ID, a 64-bit unsigned number -randomly generated by the server. QUIC's consistent connection ID allows -connections to survive changes to the client's IP and port, such as those caused -by NAT rebindings or by the client changing network connectivity to a new -address. QUIC provides automatic cryptographic verification of a rebound client, -since the client continues to use the same session key for encrypting and -decrypting packets. The consistent connection ID can be used to allow migration -of the connection to a new server IP address as well, since the Connection ID -remains consistent across changes in the client's and the server's network -addresses. +QUIC connections carry a connection ID, an opaque value assigned by the intended +recipient of the packet. Using a consistent connection ID allows connections to Technically, QUIC packets carry a connection ID. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1151#pullrequestreview-100940428 ----==_mimepart_5a99dd4197285_77333fb489d08f2c179376 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@ekr commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md:

>  
-A QUIC packet with a long header has two fixed fields immediately following the
-first octet: a 64-bit Connection ID (see {{connection-id}}) and a 32-bit Version
-(see {{version}}).
+The connection ID lengths are followed by connection IDs.  The connection ID

perhaps "by the connection IDs"

In draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md:

> @@ -150,10 +150,25 @@ version-specific semantics are marked with an X.
 {: #fig-long title="QUIC Long Header"}
 
 A QUIC packet with a long header has the high bit of the first octet set to 1.
+All other bits in that octet are version specific.
+
+The next octet contains the length in octets of the two Connection IDs (see
+{{connection-id}}) that follow.  Each length is encoded as a 4 bit unsigned
+integer.  The length of the Destination Connection ID occupies the high bits of
+the octet and the length of the Source Connection ID occupying the low bits of
+the octet.  An encoded length of 0 indicates that the connection ID is also 0

+1 to Ian here.

In draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md:

>  
-A QUIC packet with a long header has two fixed fields immediately following the
-first octet: a 64-bit Connection ID (see {{connection-id}}) and a 32-bit Version
-(see {{version}}).
+The connection ID lengths are followed by connection IDs.  The connection ID
+selected by the recipient of the packet (the Destination Connection ID) is

This isn't quite correct for the initial Initial packet. Maybe "associated with the recipient"

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -552,7 +552,8 @@ older than 1.3 is negotiated.
 
 QUIC requires that the initial handshake packet from a client fit within the
 payload of a single packet.  The size limits on QUIC packets mean that a record
-containing a ClientHello needs to fit within 1171 octets.
+containing a ClientHello needs to fit within 1131 octets, though endpoints can
+reduce the size of their connection ID to increase by up to 22 octets.

You'll of course need to change this if you ahnge the length encoding.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -679,13 +680,13 @@ client packet protection key would use HKDF-Expand with an `info` parameter of
 ### Handshake Secrets {#handshake-secrets}
 
 Packets that carry the TLS handshake (Initial, Retry, and Handshake) are
-protected with a secret derived from the connection ID used in the client's
-Initial packet.  Specifically:
+protected with a secret derived from the Destination Connection ID field from
+the client's Initial packet.  Specifically:

Good catch.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -703,6 +704,22 @@ ensuring that the keys are different for each version of QUIC. This prevents a
 middlebox that only recognizes one version of QUIC from seeing or modifying the
 contents of handshake packets from future versions.
 
+Note(1):
+
+: The Destination Connection ID is of arbitrary length, and it could be zero
+  length if the server sends a Retry packet with a zero-length Source Connection
+  ID field.  In this case, the handshake keys provide no assurance to the client
+  that the server received its packet; the client has to rely on the exchange
+  that included the Retry packet for that property.
+
+Note(2):
+
+: HKDF-Extract uses HMAC {{?RFC2104}}, which produces the same output for values
+  ending in zero octets and values that omit those octets.  Thus,
+  0x12345678900000 and 0x1234567890 produce the same result.  A client is
+  required to randomize the value of Destination Connection ID, which avoids
+  this problem.

I believe this is incorrect.

HKDF-Extract is:

PRK = HMAC-Hash(salt, IKM)

In this case, salt is the handshake_salt (used as the HMAC key) and the CID is the IKM (used as the message. HMAC does right-pad the key with 0s (before XORing in the pad) but it does not handle the message that way.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -288,16 +289,12 @@ processing.
 
 ## Connection Migration and Resilience to NAT Rebinding
 
-QUIC connections are identified by a Connection ID, a 64-bit unsigned number
-randomly generated by the server.  QUIC's consistent connection ID allows
-connections to survive changes to the client's IP and port, such as those caused
-by NAT rebindings or by the client changing network connectivity to a new
-address. QUIC provides automatic cryptographic verification of a rebound client,
-since the client continues to use the same session key for encrypting and
-decrypting packets. The consistent connection ID can be used to allow migration
-of the connection to a new server IP address as well, since the Connection ID
-remains consistent across changes in the client's and the server's network
-addresses.
+QUIC connections carry a connection ID, an opaque value assigned by the intended
+recipient of the packet.  Using a consistent connection ID allows connections to

Technically, QUIC packets carry a connection ID.

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@ekr commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3987,6 +4031,9 @@ Issue and pull request numbers are listed with a leading octothorp.
 - Added PATH_CHALLENGE and PATH_RESPONSE frames to replace PING with Data and
   PONG frame. Changed ACK frame type from 0x0e to 0x0d. (#1091, #1086)
 
+- Made connection IDs symmetrical and variable length.  Removed

The fact that I called this "asymmetric" and you called it "symmetrical" suggests that both names are bad. Maybe "unidirectional" is the term we want?

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -422,6 +422,58 @@ is available.
 (TODO: Work this section some more. Add text on client vs. server, and on
 stateless retry.)
 
+## Generating Acknowledgements
+
+QUIC SHOULD delay sending acknowledgements in response to packets,
+but MUST NOT excessively delay acknowledgements of packets containing
+non-ack frames.  Specifically, implementaions MUST attempt to
+enforce a maximum ack delay to avoid causing the peer spurious
+timeouts.  The default maximum ack delay in QUIC is 25ms.
+
+An acknowledgement MAY be sent for every second full-sized segment,
+as TCP does {{!RFC5681}}, or may be sent less frequently, as long as
+the delay does not exceed the maximum ack delay.  QUIC recovery algorithms

Good point, I based this text on a TCP RFC.

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----==_mimepart_5a9cb4d227017_11242b1bb3dfeec82386b8-- From nobody Sun Mar 4 19:26:34 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F272912751F for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2018 19:26:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.595 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.595 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4Unk2c6PGTh0 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2018 19:26:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2-ext3.iad.github.net [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C54D7128896 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2018 19:26:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2018 19:26:17 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1520220378; bh=KLgic/wTGTJaF/Fum9+PiMJ0TBNn9UzQDiJiwjzQn3Y=; h=From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=RZTmWcBBuKriCoYik67Ro+XAQiSLPdvHJsXITm723zVtOth+5kDQ3ftpr9XW4XObN iEnk+5ShonWnSjIu9A3WFbDQIafmcm7oH62d3DtkkWC0TDcqTW9HxDBqhXpszLhKz/ HxOZ/dounVBGHpGAA150+iT4hdJffI6mPEG0XRvE= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Version Negotiation Routing Problem (#1146) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a9cb8d9eaae4_56382b083be40ed05699d6"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2018 03:26:27 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a9cb8d9eaae4_56382b083be40ed05699d6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't see how #1151 fails to fix this. The client puts its preferred value in the packet it sends and the server has to use that value. These values are available to all middleboxes on the path. No exception is needed for Version Negotiation. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1146#issuecomment-370299789 ----==_mimepart_5a9cb8d9eaae4_56382b083be40ed05699d6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I don't see how #1151 fails to fix this. The client puts its preferred value in th= e packet it sends and the server has to use that value. These values are= available to all middleboxes on the path. No exception is needed for Ve= rsion Negotiation.

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Yes, the simple fix here is to observe that all transport errors are connection errors (in 12.2).

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@huitema= , do you think that the new text in Section 7.1 helps here? If not, perhaps you could recommend s= ome text to add (and the appropriate location for that text).

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Servers MAY rate control these packets to avoid storms of Version Negotiation packets. That's good, but I would add a specific caveat. "Packets from different versions may use different parameters when computing clear text packet protection per [some appropriate ref to the TLS draft]. Servers who do not support a particular version will not be able to decrypt the content of the packet. They still SHOULD send a Version Negotiation packet, as long as the message has a sufficient length." -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1069#issuecomment-370320644 ----==_mimepart_5a9ce10d88414_658d2ad89284eec447976b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Section 7.1.2 says: If a server receives a packet that has an unsupporte= d version and sufficient length to be an Initial packet for some version su= pported by the server, it SHOULD send a Version Negotiation packet as descr= ibed in Section 7.2.1. Servers MAY rate control these packets to avoid stor= ms of Version Negotiation packets.

That's good, but I would add a specific caveat. "Packets from different = versions may use different parameters when computing clear text packet prot= ection per [some appropriate ref to the TLS draft]. Servers who do not supp= ort a particular version will not be able to decrypt the content of the pac= ket. They still SHOULD send a Version Negotiation packet, as long as the me= ssage has a sufficient length."

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This seemed a little easier to understand without having to read the text that follows. > @@ -150,10 +150,25 @@ version-specific semantics are marked with an X. {: #fig-long title="QUIC Long Header"} A QUIC packet with a long header has the high bit of the first octet set to 1. +All other bits in that octet are version specific. + +The next octet contains the length in octets of the two Connection IDs (see +{{connection-id}}) that follow. Each length is encoded as a 4 bit unsigned +integer. The length of the Destination Connection ID occupies the high bits of +the octet and the length of the Source Connection ID occupying the low bits of +the octet. An encoded length of 0 indicates that the connection ID is also 0 I actually think that shorter connection IDs is harmful. If we are to encourage the use of NEW_CONNECTION_ID, the space needs to be large enough to make the use of a new identifier meaningful. > -A QUIC packet with a long header has two fixed fields immediately following the -first octet: a 64-bit Connection ID (see {{connection-id}}) and a 32-bit Version -(see {{version}}). +The connection ID lengths are followed by connection IDs. The connection ID +selected by the recipient of the packet (the Destination Connection ID) is +followed by the connection ID selected by the sender of the packet (the Source +Connection ID). + +After both Connection IDs, a 32-bit Version (see {{version}}) is followed by a +version-specific payload. Yep, I think that's a good idea. We should make that move sooner rather than later if we do. > ## Connection ID -A connection ID is an opaque 64-bit field. +A connection ID is an opaque field. A connection ID can be 0 octets in length, +or between 8 and 22 octets (inclusive). I thought carefully about this. Shorter values make it much harder to come up with a scheme for preserving unlinkability if you use NEW_CONNECTION_ID. Thus, I want to prohibit 1 octet connection IDs. 2 seems similarly challenged. > @@ -552,7 +552,8 @@ older than 1.3 is negotiated. QUIC requires that the initial handshake packet from a client fit within the payload of a single packet. The size limits on QUIC packets mean that a record -containing a ClientHello needs to fit within 1171 octets. +containing a ClientHello needs to fit within 1131 octets, though endpoints can +reduce the size of their connection ID to increase by up to 22 octets. Yeah, I'm close to killing this sentence, but it's somewhat useful to know where the limits are. > @@ -703,6 +704,22 @@ ensuring that the keys are different for each version of QUIC. This prevents a middlebox that only recognizes one version of QUIC from seeing or modifying the contents of handshake packets from future versions. +Note(1): + +: The Destination Connection ID is of arbitrary length, and it could be zero + length if the server sends a Retry packet with a zero-length Source Connection + ID field. In this case, the handshake keys provide no assurance to the client + that the server received its packet; the client has to rely on the exchange + that included the Retry packet for that property. + +Note(2): + +: HKDF-Extract uses HMAC {{?RFC2104}}, which produces the same output for values + ending in zero octets and values that omit those octets. Thus, + 0x12345678900000 and 0x1234567890 produce the same result. A client is + required to randomize the value of Destination Connection ID, which avoids + this problem. Ahh, yes, the key is a problem, not the IKM. I've never understood the ordering choice in the design of HKDF. > -QUIC connections are identified by a Connection ID, a 64-bit unsigned number -randomly generated by the server. QUIC's consistent connection ID allows -connections to survive changes to the client's IP and port, such as those caused -by NAT rebindings or by the client changing network connectivity to a new -address. QUIC provides automatic cryptographic verification of a rebound client, -since the client continues to use the same session key for encrypting and -decrypting packets. The consistent connection ID can be used to allow migration -of the connection to a new server IP address as well, since the Connection ID -remains consistent across changes in the client's and the server's network -addresses. +QUIC connections carry a connection ID, an opaque value assigned by the intended +recipient of the packet. Using a consistent connection ID allows connections to +survive changes to the sender's IP and port, such as those caused by NAT +rebindings or by changes in network connectivity. QUIC provides mechanisms that +verify addresses of endpoints that change network connectivity, while +maintaining session continuity. Difficult. A complete redo maybe. > -The value in the Unused field is selected randomly by the server. The Connection -ID field echoes the corresponding value from the triggering client packet. This -allows clients some assurance that the server received the packet and that the -Version Negotiation packet is in fact from the server. The Version field MUST -be set to 0x00000000. The remainder of the Version Negotiation packet is a list -of 32-bit versions which the server supports. +The value in the Unused field is selected randomly by the server. + +The server MUST include the value from the Source Connection ID field of the +packet it receives in the Destination Connection ID field; similarly, the value +of the Source Connection ID field is set to the Destination Connection ID from +the received packet. The value for Source Connection ID is randomly selected by +a client and so gives clients some assurance that the server received the packet +and that the Version Negotiation packet was not generated by an off-path +attacker. + An understandable misinterpretation. Client sets destination to random, source to whatever it needs. In VN, server sets destination to client's source and source to client's destination. Thus, it's very hard to explain. And clearly I failed. > -The client MUST choose a random connection ID and use it in Initial packets -({{packet-initial}}) and 0-RTT packets ({{packet-protected}}). +During the handshake, packets with the long header are used to establish the +Destination Connection ID that each endpoint uses. Each endpoint sends the +value that they wish their peer to use in the Source Connection ID field. Upon +receiving a packet, each endpoint sets the Destination Connection ID to match +the value of the Source Connection ID that they receive. Good catch. I've put in a rule for this. I think that it's a sensible rule, but you can judge that for yourself. > -If there is no connection ID, but the packet matches the address/port tuple -of a connection where the host did not require connection IDs, QUIC processes -the packet as part of that connection. Endpoints MUST drop packets that omit -connection IDs if they do not meet both of these criteria. +If the Destination Connection ID is zero length, but the packet matches the +address/port tuple of a connection where the host did not require connection +IDs, QUIC processes the packet as part of that connection. Endpoints MUST drop +packets with zero-length Destination Connection ID fields if they do not meet +both of these criteria. "don't do that" > @@ -2320,15 +2352,28 @@ Sequence: the value selected during the handshake comes immediately before the first value that a server can send. +Length: + +: An 8-bit unsigned integer containing the length of the connection ID. Values + less than 8 and greater than 22 are invalid and MUST be treated as a + connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION. 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In draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md:

> @@ -135,12 +135,12 @@ version-specific semantics are marked with an X.
 ~~~
  0                   1                   2                   3
  0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
-|1|X X X X X X X|
++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+|1|X X X X X X X| ConnID Len(8) |

I guess so. This seemed a little easier to understand without having to read the text that follows.

In draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md:

> @@ -150,10 +150,25 @@ version-specific semantics are marked with an X.
 {: #fig-long title="QUIC Long Header"}
 
 A QUIC packet with a long header has the high bit of the first octet set to 1.
+All other bits in that octet are version specific.
+
+The next octet contains the length in octets of the two Connection IDs (see
+{{connection-id}}) that follow.  Each length is encoded as a 4 bit unsigned
+integer.  The length of the Destination Connection ID occupies the high bits of
+the octet and the length of the Source Connection ID occupying the low bits of
+the octet.  An encoded length of 0 indicates that the connection ID is also 0

I actually think that shorter connection IDs is harmful. If we are to encourage the use of NEW_CONNECTION_ID, the space needs to be large enough to make the use of a new identifier meaningful.

In draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md:

>  
-A QUIC packet with a long header has two fixed fields immediately following the
-first octet: a 64-bit Connection ID (see {{connection-id}}) and a 32-bit Version
-(see {{version}}).
+The connection ID lengths are followed by connection IDs.  The connection ID
+selected by the recipient of the packet (the Destination Connection ID) is
+followed by the connection ID selected by the sender of the packet (the Source
+Connection ID).
+
+After both Connection IDs, a 32-bit Version (see {{version}}) is followed by a
+version-specific payload.

Yep, I think that's a good idea. We should make that move sooner rather than later if we do.

In draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md:

>  
 
 ## Connection ID
 
-A connection ID is an opaque 64-bit field.
+A connection ID is an opaque field.  A connection ID can be 0 octets in length,
+or between 8 and 22 octets (inclusive).

I thought carefully about this.

Shorter values make it much harder to come up with a scheme for preserving unlinkability if you use NEW_CONNECTION_ID. Thus, I want to prohibit 1 octet connection IDs. 2 seems similarly challenged.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -552,7 +552,8 @@ older than 1.3 is negotiated.
 
 QUIC requires that the initial handshake packet from a client fit within the
 payload of a single packet.  The size limits on QUIC packets mean that a record
-containing a ClientHello needs to fit within 1171 octets.
+containing a ClientHello needs to fit within 1131 octets, though endpoints can
+reduce the size of their connection ID to increase by up to 22 octets.

Yeah, I'm close to killing this sentence, but it's somewhat useful to know where the limits are.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -703,6 +704,22 @@ ensuring that the keys are different for each version of QUIC. This prevents a
 middlebox that only recognizes one version of QUIC from seeing or modifying the
 contents of handshake packets from future versions.
 
+Note(1):
+
+: The Destination Connection ID is of arbitrary length, and it could be zero
+  length if the server sends a Retry packet with a zero-length Source Connection
+  ID field.  In this case, the handshake keys provide no assurance to the client
+  that the server received its packet; the client has to rely on the exchange
+  that included the Retry packet for that property.
+
+Note(2):
+
+: HKDF-Extract uses HMAC {{?RFC2104}}, which produces the same output for values
+  ending in zero octets and values that omit those octets.  Thus,
+  0x12345678900000 and 0x1234567890 produce the same result.  A client is
+  required to randomize the value of Destination Connection ID, which avoids
+  this problem.

Ahh, yes, the key is a problem, not the IKM. I've never understood the ordering choice in the design of HKDF.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -QUIC connections are identified by a Connection ID, a 64-bit unsigned number
-randomly generated by the server.  QUIC's consistent connection ID allows
-connections to survive changes to the client's IP and port, such as those caused
-by NAT rebindings or by the client changing network connectivity to a new
-address. QUIC provides automatic cryptographic verification of a rebound client,
-since the client continues to use the same session key for encrypting and
-decrypting packets. The consistent connection ID can be used to allow migration
-of the connection to a new server IP address as well, since the Connection ID
-remains consistent across changes in the client's and the server's network
-addresses.
+QUIC connections carry a connection ID, an opaque value assigned by the intended
+recipient of the packet.  Using a consistent connection ID allows connections to
+survive changes to the sender's IP and port, such as those caused by NAT
+rebindings or by changes in network connectivity.  QUIC provides mechanisms that
+verify addresses of endpoints that change network connectivity, while
+maintaining session continuity.

Difficult. A complete redo maybe.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -The value in the Unused field is selected randomly by the server. The Connection
-ID field echoes the corresponding value from the triggering client packet.  This
-allows clients some assurance that the server received the packet and that the
-Version Negotiation packet is in fact from the server.  The Version field MUST
-be set to 0x00000000.  The remainder of the Version Negotiation packet is a list
-of 32-bit versions which the server supports.
+The value in the Unused field is selected randomly by the server.
+
+The server MUST include the value from the Source Connection ID field of the
+packet it receives in the Destination Connection ID field; similarly, the value
+of the Source Connection ID field is set to the Destination Connection ID from
+the received packet.  The value for Source Connection ID is randomly selected by
+a client and so gives clients some assurance that the server received the packet
+and that the Version Negotiation packet was not generated by an off-path
+attacker.
+

An understandable misinterpretation.

Client sets destination to random, source to whatever it needs.
In VN, server sets destination to client's source and source to client's destination.

Thus, it's very hard to explain. And clearly I failed.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-The client MUST choose a random connection ID and use it in Initial packets
-({{packet-initial}}) and 0-RTT packets ({{packet-protected}}).
+During the handshake, packets with the long header are used to establish the
+Destination Connection ID that each endpoint uses.  Each endpoint sends the
+value that they wish their peer to use in the Source Connection ID field.  Upon
+receiving a packet, each endpoint sets the Destination Connection ID to match
+the value of the Source Connection ID that they receive.

Good catch. I've put in a rule for this. I think that it's a sensible rule, but you can judge that for yourself.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-If there is no connection ID, but the packet matches the address/port tuple
-of a connection where the host did not require connection IDs, QUIC processes
-the packet as part of that connection. Endpoints MUST drop packets that omit
-connection IDs if they do not meet both of these criteria.
+If the Destination Connection ID is zero length, but the packet matches the
+address/port tuple of a connection where the host did not require connection
+IDs, QUIC processes the packet as part of that connection. Endpoints MUST drop
+packets with zero-length Destination Connection ID fields if they do not meet
+both of these criteria.

"don't do that"

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2320,15 +2352,28 @@ Sequence:
   the value selected during the handshake comes immediately before the first
   value that a server can send.
 
+Length:
+
+: An 8-bit unsigned integer containing the length of the connection ID.  Values
+  less than 8 and greater than 22 are invalid and MUST be treated as a
+  connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.

There's a good reason to make the headers we expose to the cesspit use a crappy encoding, but less so here.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3987,6 +4031,9 @@ Issue and pull request numbers are listed with a leading octothorp.
 - Added PATH_CHALLENGE and PATH_RESPONSE frames to replace PING with Data and
   PONG frame. Changed ACK frame type from 0x0e to 0x0d. (#1091, #1086)
 
+- Made connection IDs symmetrical and variable length.  Removed

I did that intentionally :) But the changelog can be better. I might avoid all those words and say what they are instead.

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This is apparently a common failing in server implementations.

Closes #1069.

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The transport doc is pretty clear about how transport parameters are managed. They have defaults, or are mandatory.

The HTTP mapping is less clear. Right now, prior to receiving SETTINGS, it's not obvious what values you might assume for the header table size. We should nail that down. I suggest 0 until SETTINGS is received. That allows for some sending, but implies no commitment of memory from the recipient.

For 0-RTT, the situation is worse. We should just insist on the values being remembered, just like we do for transport parameters. Right now we only have a SHOULD cache. That would be OK if the assumed values were safe (0 table size is always safe to assume), but they aren't.

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Packet number gaps are cumulative. An endpoint might +skip connection IDs, but it MUST ensure that it applies the associated packet +number gaps for connection IDs that it skips in addition to the packet number +gap associated with the connection ID that it does use. + +An endpoint that receives a packet that is marked with a new connection ID +recovers the packet number by adding the cumulative packet number gap to its +expected packet number. An endpoint MUST discard packets that contain a smaller +gap than it advertised. + +An endpoint that receives a packet either with a previously unused connection ID +or with an empty connection ID and from a new remote address MUST use the next +available connection ID for any packets it sends to that address. Failing to do What happens if there is no new connection ID available (anymore)? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@mirjak commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +An endpoint which wishes to break linkability upon changing networks MUST use
+the connection ID provided by its peer as well as incrementing the packet
+sequence number by an externally unpredictable value computed as described in
+{{packet-number-gap}}. Packet number gaps are cumulative.  An endpoint might
+skip connection IDs, but it MUST ensure that it applies the associated packet
+number gaps for connection IDs that it skips in addition to the packet number
+gap associated with the connection ID that it does use.
+
+An endpoint that receives a packet that is marked with a new connection ID
+recovers the packet number by adding the cumulative packet number gap to its
+expected packet number.  An endpoint MUST discard packets that contain a smaller
+gap than it advertised.
+
+An endpoint that receives a packet either with a previously unused connection ID
+or with an empty connection ID and from a new remote address MUST use the next
+available connection ID for any packets it sends to that address.  Failing to do

What happens if there is no new connection ID available (anymore)?

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In draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md:

> @@ -178,16 +191,17 @@ version-specific semantics are marked with an X.
 
 A QUIC packet with a short header has the high bit of the first octet set to 0.
 
-A QUIC packet with a short header includes an optional connection ID and no
-version field.  The second bit of that octet (that is, 0x40) determines whether
-the connection ID is present.  If the second bit is cleared, a 64-bit connection
-ID immediately follows the first octet.  If the second bit is set, the remainder
-of the packet has version-specific semantics.
+A QUIC packet with a short header includes a Destination Connection ID.  The

Just double checking: The short header does actually not include a connection ID if the length was zero in the long header, right?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2320,15 +2362,28 @@ Sequence:
   the value selected during the handshake comes immediately before the first
   value that a server can send.
 
+Length:
+
+: An 8-bit unsigned integer containing the length of the connection ID.  Values
+  less than 8 and greater than 22 are invalid and MUST be treated as a
+  connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.

What is actually the use case for changing the connection ID length during a connection? Is that really needed?

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@m= artinthomson I really like the changes in #1151 and it does solve most concerns. Y= ou argue my remaining issue is a matter of expections and that it is not = specific to vneg:

The concern is that the server and the TLS handshake places some restr= ictions on the initial client source CID because it is required to be ran= dom. If the client exists in a complex p2p server network it might want d= etailed control of routing bits in CID. A middelbox could do NAT style ro= uting setup and remember the CID for reverse routing, but that is an assu= mption on infrastructure. In particular the reverse route might take an e= ntirely different path so NAT won't work at all. Encrypting the CID is an= option even if less than 16 bytes, but not all infrastructure might want= to do that.

At the same time there are (or ought to be) requirements on CIDs to be= unique per tuple and for linkability concerns etc. so there is a broader= discussion on what a CID must fulfill. Since a CID is allowed to be zero= length, it cannot be very hard requirements in general.

So, removing randomness restrictions on CIDs and in place provide reco= mmendations or requirements for specific usecases (linkability) would rem= ove the concerns I still have.

Note that randomness is less important now that the server can always = choose it's own CID.

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Thanks Martin, I'm going to land this with the editorial part of your PR and then we can discuss the proposed text change you made.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -439,12 +439,11 @@ receiving a second full-sized packet.
 Out-of-order packets SHOULD be acknowledged more quickly, in order
 to accelerate loss recovery.  The receiver SHOULD send an immediate ACK
 when it receives a new packet which is not one greater than the
-largest received packet number.  If a receiver processes multiple
-packets before sending any ACK frames in response, they MAY not
-send an immediate ack if the received packets form a contiguous
-sequence starting one larger than the largest acked.
+largest received packet number.  A receiver MAY delay acknowledgment by up
+to its maximum ack delay as long as it receives a contiguous sequence
+starting at the largest acknowledged.

So, what I was hoping to convey is that if you process 5 packets, and they don't arrive in order, but there end up being no new gaps after processing, then it's ok to not send an immediate ack.

In practice, this is a pretty good thing to do, particularly on higher bandwidth or lower powered devices. Maybe this deserves a full paragraph with a clearer explanation?

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The connection ID -selected by the recipient of the packet (the Destination Connection ID) is -followed by the connection ID selected by the sender of the packet (the Source -Connection ID). +The connection ID lengths are followed by a two connection IDs. The connection by ~a~ two > -QUIC connections are identified by a Connection ID, a 64-bit unsigned number -randomly generated by the server. QUIC's consistent connection ID allows -connections to survive changes to the client's IP and port, such as those caused -by NAT rebindings or by the client changing network connectivity to a new -address. QUIC provides automatic cryptographic verification of a rebound client, -since the client continues to use the same session key for encrypting and -decrypting packets. The consistent connection ID can be used to allow migration -of the connection to a new server IP address as well, since the Connection ID -remains consistent across changes in the client's and the server's network -addresses. +QUIC connections carry a connection ID, an opaque value assigned by the intended +recipient of the packet. Using a consistent connection ID allows connections to +survive changes to the sender's IP and port, such as those caused by NAT +rebindings or by changes in network connectivity. QUIC provides mechanisms that +verify addresses of endpoints that change network connectivity, while +maintaining session continuity. "When an endpoint changes network connectivity, QUIC provides mechanisms to verify new addresses while maintaining session continuity.", maybe? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@MikeBishop commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md:

>  Connection ID.
 
-The connection ID lengths are followed by connection IDs.  The connection ID
-selected by the recipient of the packet (the Destination Connection ID) is
-followed by the connection ID selected by the sender of the packet (the Source
-Connection ID).
+The connection ID lengths are followed by a two connection IDs.  The connection

by a two

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -QUIC connections are identified by a Connection ID, a 64-bit unsigned number
-randomly generated by the server.  QUIC's consistent connection ID allows
-connections to survive changes to the client's IP and port, such as those caused
-by NAT rebindings or by the client changing network connectivity to a new
-address. QUIC provides automatic cryptographic verification of a rebound client,
-since the client continues to use the same session key for encrypting and
-decrypting packets. The consistent connection ID can be used to allow migration
-of the connection to a new server IP address as well, since the Connection ID
-remains consistent across changes in the client's and the server's network
-addresses.
+QUIC connections carry a connection ID, an opaque value assigned by the intended
+recipient of the packet.  Using a consistent connection ID allows connections to
+survive changes to the sender's IP and port, such as those caused by NAT
+rebindings or by changes in network connectivity.  QUIC provides mechanisms that
+verify addresses of endpoints that change network connectivity, while
+maintaining session continuity.

"When an endpoint changes network connectivity, QUIC provides mechanisms to verify new addresses while maintaining session continuity.", maybe?

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----==_mimepart_5a9d98ad7ac08_7c2d2ae221bf0ecc1009ed-- From nobody Mon Mar 5 11:37:07 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5FD712DA6B for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 11:37:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MngVgAiYii79 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 11:37:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from o9.sgmail.github.com (o9.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8AA25124BAC for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 11:37:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=kl/AB7Xir4/1vuF6EYtwklQyYU4=; b=SM4N1qT5L15+xZG0 a5t9VlAYQTGXhlH6ADMpktO/+Bf+CTxWBGA0lUhEs232JzpZ+nIxwngGc+Rzb6ST wg8eJLdftGEJQLSEChu8+S1uOpHQCojls/Fj2yikXCVwuBVsga8Turb5kKwYDxo4 yOy1muEeN0UFG49bBZXPKoD3Y9c= Received: by filter0571p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0571p1las1-24734-5A9D9C5E-2C 2018-03-05 19:37:02.909455341 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.17]) by ismtpd0005p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id b1AdFSV_ReauyagiztT6Dg for ; Mon, 05 Mar 2018 19:37:02.695 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2018 19:37:03 +0000 (UTC) From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Symmetric connection IDs (#1151) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a9d9c4c37195_4d412b067091aec87458c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak2vbNpBxNZMMGPMwHS8P5ajZ0+3ZX+HrVJxBY 2kYVBSckJPmpXZtr9Vu9bve0DZKL19b2/RIld3OKj3iH6scHzOderK7VUbohwXL7SexKqwVvrklhay TGOAygMPPCs7z4YW2KmGMY/diU/gmnDVQ1BiFmHerzlxLaH97EB24snw56tFxjn495dI+cTHHnEugT 4= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2018 19:37:06 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a9d9c4c37195_4d412b067091aec87458c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MikeBishop commented on this pull request. Another pass. > - -Once the client receives the connection ID that the server has chosen, it MUST -use it for all subsequent Handshake ({{packet-handshake}}) and 1-RTT -({{packet-protected}}) packets but not for 0-RTT packets ({{packet-protected}}). - -Server's Version Negotiation ({{packet-version}}) and Retry ({{packet-retry}}) -packets MUST use connection ID selected by the client. +A connection ID is used to ensure consistent routing of packets. The long +header contains two connection IDs: the Destination Connection ID is chosen by +the recipient of the packet and is used to provide consistent routing; the +Source Connection ID is used to set the Destination Connection ID used by a +peer. + +During the handshake, packets with the long header are used to establish the +Destination Connection ID that each endpoint uses. Each endpoint uses the +Source Connection ID field to communicate the connection that is used in the "communicate the connection that is used" doesn't read properly to me. Should this be "connection ID"? > -connection IDs, but it MUST ensure that it applies the associated packet number -gaps for connection IDs that it skips in addition to the packet number gap -associated with the connection ID that it does use. - -A server that receives a packet that is marked with a new connection ID recovers -the packet number by adding the cumulative packet number gap to its expected -packet number. A server SHOULD discard packets that contain a smaller gap than -it advertised. +to correlate activity between those paths. An endpoint that moves between +networks might not wish to have their activity correlated by any entity other +than a server. The NEW_CONNECTION_ID message can be sent by both endpoints to +provide an unlinkable connection ID for use in case a peer wishes to explicitly +break linkability between two points of network attachment. + +An endpoint might need to send packets on multiple networks without receiving +any response from the server. To ensure that the endpoint is not linkable You're mixing "endpoint/peer" and "client/server" language here. While it's (currently) correct that the endpoint on the previous line must be a client, you might want to pick one or the other for clarity. > + +An endpoint which wishes to break linkability upon changing networks MUST use +the connection ID provided by its peer as well as incrementing the packet +sequence number by an externally unpredictable value computed as described in +{{packet-number-gap}}. Packet number gaps are cumulative. An endpoint might +skip connection IDs, but it MUST ensure that it applies the associated packet +number gaps for connection IDs that it skips in addition to the packet number +gap associated with the connection ID that it does use. + +An endpoint that receives a packet that is marked with a new connection ID +recovers the packet number by adding the cumulative packet number gap to its +expected packet number. An endpoint MUST discard packets that contain a smaller +gap than it advertised. + +An endpoint that receives a packet either with a previously unused connection ID +or with an empty connection ID and from a new remote address MUST use the next If it's an empty connection ID and a new remote address, how would the packet even be associated with the connection? I think this is a normative requirement for a situation which can't occur. > +An endpoint which wishes to break linkability upon changing networks MUST use +the connection ID provided by its peer as well as incrementing the packet +sequence number by an externally unpredictable value computed as described in +{{packet-number-gap}}. Packet number gaps are cumulative. An endpoint might +skip connection IDs, but it MUST ensure that it applies the associated packet +number gaps for connection IDs that it skips in addition to the packet number +gap associated with the connection ID that it does use. + +An endpoint that receives a packet that is marked with a new connection ID +recovers the packet number by adding the cumulative packet number gap to its +expected packet number. An endpoint MUST discard packets that contain a smaller +gap than it advertised. + +An endpoint that receives a packet either with a previously unused connection ID +or with an empty connection ID and from a new remote address MUST use the next +available connection ID for any packets it sends to that address. Failing to do A few reasonable choices would be to continue with the current CID (it's the peer's fault for letting you run out, so they've lost their linkability), or to prohibit sending until you get a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame. The latter has the nasty corner case that, if you're prohibited from sending ACKs and the packet containing your new CID gets dropped, you can't make forward progress until you RTO. > @@ -3987,6 +4041,10 @@ Issue and pull request numbers are listed with a leading octothorp. - Added PATH_CHALLENGE and PATH_RESPONSE frames to replace PING with Data and PONG frame. Changed ACK frame type from 0x0e to 0x0d. (#1091, #1086) +- Endpoint now set the connection ID that their peer uses. Connection IDs are Endpoint**s**. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1151#pullrequestreview-101293491 ----==_mimepart_5a9d9c4c37195_4d412b067091aec87458c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@MikeBishop commented on this pull request.

Another pass.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -
-Once the client receives the connection ID that the server has chosen, it MUST
-use it for all subsequent Handshake ({{packet-handshake}}) and 1-RTT
-({{packet-protected}}) packets but not for 0-RTT packets ({{packet-protected}}).
-
-Server's Version Negotiation ({{packet-version}}) and Retry ({{packet-retry}})
-packets MUST use connection ID selected by the client.
+A connection ID is used to ensure consistent routing of packets.  The long
+header contains two connection IDs: the Destination Connection ID is chosen by
+the recipient of the packet and is used to provide consistent routing; the
+Source Connection ID is used to set the Destination Connection ID used by a
+peer.
+
+During the handshake, packets with the long header are used to establish the
+Destination Connection ID that each endpoint uses.  Each endpoint uses the
+Source Connection ID field to communicate the connection that is used in the

"communicate the connection that is used" doesn't read properly to me. Should this be "connection ID"?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -connection IDs, but it MUST ensure that it applies the associated packet number
-gaps for connection IDs that it skips in addition to the packet number gap
-associated with the connection ID that it does use.
-
-A server that receives a packet that is marked with a new connection ID recovers
-the packet number by adding the cumulative packet number gap to its expected
-packet number.  A server SHOULD discard packets that contain a smaller gap than
-it advertised.
+to correlate activity between those paths.  An endpoint that moves between
+networks might not wish to have their activity correlated by any entity other
+than a server. The NEW_CONNECTION_ID message can be sent by both endpoints to
+provide an unlinkable connection ID for use in case a peer wishes to explicitly
+break linkability between two points of network attachment.
+
+An endpoint might need to send packets on multiple networks without receiving
+any response from the server.  To ensure that the endpoint is not linkable

You're mixing "endpoint/peer" and "client/server" language here. While it's (currently) correct that the endpoint on the previous line must be a client, you might want to pick one or the other for clarity.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+An endpoint which wishes to break linkability upon changing networks MUST use
+the connection ID provided by its peer as well as incrementing the packet
+sequence number by an externally unpredictable value computed as described in
+{{packet-number-gap}}. Packet number gaps are cumulative.  An endpoint might
+skip connection IDs, but it MUST ensure that it applies the associated packet
+number gaps for connection IDs that it skips in addition to the packet number
+gap associated with the connection ID that it does use.
+
+An endpoint that receives a packet that is marked with a new connection ID
+recovers the packet number by adding the cumulative packet number gap to its
+expected packet number.  An endpoint MUST discard packets that contain a smaller
+gap than it advertised.
+
+An endpoint that receives a packet either with a previously unused connection ID
+or with an empty connection ID and from a new remote address MUST use the next

If it's an empty connection ID and a new remote address, how would the packet even be associated with the connection? I think this is a normative requirement for a situation which can't occur.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +An endpoint which wishes to break linkability upon changing networks MUST use
+the connection ID provided by its peer as well as incrementing the packet
+sequence number by an externally unpredictable value computed as described in
+{{packet-number-gap}}. Packet number gaps are cumulative.  An endpoint might
+skip connection IDs, but it MUST ensure that it applies the associated packet
+number gaps for connection IDs that it skips in addition to the packet number
+gap associated with the connection ID that it does use.
+
+An endpoint that receives a packet that is marked with a new connection ID
+recovers the packet number by adding the cumulative packet number gap to its
+expected packet number.  An endpoint MUST discard packets that contain a smaller
+gap than it advertised.
+
+An endpoint that receives a packet either with a previously unused connection ID
+or with an empty connection ID and from a new remote address MUST use the next
+available connection ID for any packets it sends to that address.  Failing to do

A few reasonable choices would be to continue with the current CID (it's the peer's fault for letting you run out, so they've lost their linkability), or to prohibit sending until you get a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame. The latter has the nasty corner case that, if you're prohibited from sending ACKs and the packet containing your new CID gets dropped, you can't make forward progress until you RTO.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3987,6 +4041,10 @@ Issue and pull request numbers are listed with a leading octothorp.
 - Added PATH_CHALLENGE and PATH_RESPONSE frames to replace PING with Data and
   PONG frame. Changed ACK frame type from 0x0e to 0x0d. (#1091, #1086)
 
+- Endpoint now set the connection ID that their peer uses.  Connection IDs are

Endpoints.

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I thought @martinthomson had filed an issue requesting this as well, but I don't see it. By popular demand, I'm willing to add them, but would gladly accept a PR.

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Ok let me see what I can come up with...

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The HEADERS frame incorrectly still refers to HPACK while PUSH_PROMISE says QCRAM.

I intend to create a PR that will fix this issue, and will adopt the common QCRAM naming that can be fixed as a global find/replace at a later date.

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Fixes #1158, and a drive-by fix for #1161.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1162

Commit Summary

  • Add figures for all HTTP/QUIC frames

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@ekr commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -703,6 +704,22 @@ ensuring that the keys are different for each version of QUIC. This prevents a
 middlebox that only recognizes one version of QUIC from seeing or modifying the
 contents of handshake packets from future versions.
 
+Note(1):
+
+: The Destination Connection ID is of arbitrary length, and it could be zero
+  length if the server sends a Retry packet with a zero-length Source Connection
+  ID field.  In this case, the handshake keys provide no assurance to the client
+  that the server received its packet; the client has to rely on the exchange
+  that included the Retry packet for that property.
+
+Note(2):
+
+: HKDF-Extract uses HMAC {{?RFC2104}}, which produces the same output for values
+  ending in zero octets and values that omit those octets.  Thus,
+  0x12345678900000 and 0x1234567890 produce the same result.  A client is
+  required to randomize the value of Destination Connection ID, which avoids
+  this problem.

AIUI, the idea is that HMAC is a PRF, with the IKM being the message, so this whitens the IKM.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> +Note(1):
+
+: The Destination Connection ID is of arbitrary length, and it could be zero
+  length if the server sends a Retry packet with a zero-length Source Connection
+  ID field.  In this case, the handshake keys provide no assurance to the client
+  that the server received its packet; the client has to rely on the exchange
+  that included the Retry packet for that property.
+
+Note(2):
+
+: HKDF-Extract uses HMAC {{?RFC2104}}, which produces the same output for values
+  ending in zero octets and values that omit those octets.  Thus,
+  0x12345678900000 and 0x1234567890 produce the same result.  A client is
+  required to randomize the value of Destination Connection ID, which avoids
+  this problem.
+

@MikeBishop: as noted above, I don't think this is necessary.

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Agreed, #1139 adds a first version of the extra text I thought was necessary in the recovery doc. There's already an issue for explicit ack delay, so I'm closing this.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +non-ack frames.  Specifically, implementaions MUST attempt to
+enforce a maximum ack delay to avoid causing the peer spurious
+timeouts.  The default maximum ack delay in QUIC is 25ms.
+
+An acknowledgement MAY be sent for every second full-sized segment,
+as TCP does {{!RFC5681}}, or may be sent less frequently, as long as
+the delay does not exceed the maximum ack delay.  QUIC recovery algorithms
+do not assume the peer generates an acknowledgement immediately when
+receiving a second full-sized segment.
+
+Out-of-order packets SHOULD be acknowledged more quickly, in order
+to accelerate loss recovery.  Specifically, the receiver SHOULD send an
+immediate ACK when it receieves a packet with a packet number more than
+1 larger than the previous largest received packet number. The receiver
+SHOULD also send an immediate ACK when it receives a packet that fills
+in a gap in the packet numbers.  If no packet larger than the packet that

the changes look great

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -439,12 +439,11 @@ receiving a second full-sized packet.
 Out-of-order packets SHOULD be acknowledged more quickly, in order
 to accelerate loss recovery.  The receiver SHOULD send an immediate ACK
 when it receives a new packet which is not one greater than the
-largest received packet number.  If a receiver processes multiple
-packets before sending any ACK frames in response, they MAY not
-send an immediate ack if the received packets form a contiguous
-sequence starting one larger than the largest acked.
+largest received packet number.  A receiver MAY delay acknowledgment by up
+to its maximum ack delay as long as it receives a contiguous sequence
+starting at the largest acknowledged.

Yes, that is what I understood. If you want to add, "even if those packets don't arrive in sequence", that might make that clearer.

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Yes, this is fine.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -439,10 +439,12 @@ receiving a second full-sized packet.
 Out-of-order packets SHOULD be acknowledged more quickly, in order
 to accelerate loss recovery.  The receiver SHOULD send an immediate ACK
 when it receives a new packet which is not one greater than the
-largest received packet number.  If a receiver processes multiple
-packets before sending any ACK frames in response, they MAY not
-send an immediate ack if the received packets form a contiguous
-sequence starting one larger than the largest acked.
+largest received packet number.
+
+As an optimization, a receiver MAY process multiple packets before
+sending any ACK frames in response.  In this case they can determine
+whether an immediate or delayed ack should be generated after processing

ACK or acknowledgment.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -439,10 +439,12 @@ receiving a second full-sized packet.
 Out-of-order packets SHOULD be acknowledged more quickly, in order
 to accelerate loss recovery.  The receiver SHOULD send an immediate ACK
 when it receives a new packet which is not one greater than the
-largest received packet number.  If a receiver processes multiple
-packets before sending any ACK frames in response, they MAY not
-send an immediate ack if the received packets form a contiguous
-sequence starting one larger than the largest acked.
+largest received packet number.
+
+As an optimization, a receiver MAY process multiple packets before
+sending any ACK frames in response.  In this case they can determine
+whether an immediate or delayed ack should be generated after processing

Thanks, I'll go with acknowledgement.

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----==_mimepart_5a9dc2e4afdbb_1e17a3fcce76ccf34109889-- From nobody Mon Mar 5 14:25:27 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B44EC127010 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 14:25:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.498 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.498 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6FUdOtFZAn_7 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 14:25:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from m69-169.mailgun.net (m69-169.mailgun.net [166.78.69.169]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3AF9E126DC2 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 14:25:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; v=1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; q=dns/txt; s=mailo; t=1520288723; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type: Mime-Version: Subject: Message-ID: To: Reply-To: From: Date: Sender; bh=yBcoP25W2S5dYcX3wHKbPqI2PcJfoh/k50ZftGKti/U=; b=0AISui1ld5E0ov275x2uRTsM8gabDbnk0EE7dJfz8EioIPWr8HWfDFs9iJzLpJY9xbbU9nDG 9qHHuF9TiQPdm3J1KyXPBqn+hzPFAmcw7z3CNjHCIg4n2s3YWrSnZHK5lcCQauFEg0xdzXCl Qakws99FVgIQidhd/Y4Hi3iTwtc= X-Mailgun-Sid: WyJhNzYyYiIsICJxdWljLWlzc3Vlc0BpZXRmLm9yZyIsICI0MGYiXQ== X-Mailgun-Sending-Ip: 166.78.69.169 Sender: martin.thomson=gmail.com@github.com Received: from github.com (Unknown [192.30.252.39]) by mxa.mailgun.org with ESMTP id 5a9dc3d3.7fa5efc6ee40-smtp-out-n03; Mon, 05 Mar 2018 22:25:23 -0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2018 14:25:23 -0800 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: <5a9dc3d32a696_73712b0cd61b1c10327d8@hookshot-fe-da92815.cp1-iad.github.net.mail> Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] c6c031: Explain that decryption for unsupported versions i... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a9dc3d32a285_73712b0cd61b1c1032632"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2018 22:25:26 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a9dc3d32a285_73712b0cd61b1c1032632 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: c6c031be8c0008fbd1edf683f07ff0fbd3403ec3 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c6c031be8c0008fbd1edf683f07ff0fbd3403ec3 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-05 (Mon, 05 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Explain that decryption for unsupported versions is likely to fail This is apparently a common failing in server implementations. Closes #1069. Commit: ca31c07cc1d641e6a1942bc82e676d7499fd16ab https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ca31c07cc1d641e6a1942bc82e676d7499fd16ab Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-06 (Tue, 06 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- a Commit: ca49da7709f9c5939f3d9269edf7cff160687e14 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ca49da7709f9c5939f3d9269edf7cff160687e14 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-06 (Tue, 06 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1156 from quicwg/vn-dont-decrypt Explain that decryption for unsupported versions is likely to fail Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/586d1b5f5f1d...ca49da7709f9 ----==_mimepart_5a9dc3d32a285_73712b0cd61b1c1032632-- From nobody Mon Mar 5 14:25:38 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D0B71273E2 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 14:25:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.411 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.411 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id khMYbq5FmuuH for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 14:25:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from o10.sgmail.github.com (o10.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5FAE6126DC2 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 14:25:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=dmAhcRep5E9SEp9ivkfPn8KcU24=; b=js0igxYIwHi/GW07 ONgNM2uMxgLMfPbt8bHb5+zkI1VxtivpxX/LRcACdim7VmwqkMjJH5DdSEgoj41m i6KjaVdAHrVtaDFukOty1I/lxGpjsraLc9xmwSo6Yl6ovoGql2uxOqFRcK6+VFwf TXKsQDeB5uiHsEnG7GJISiFm+Es= Received: by filter0625p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0625p1las1-29157-5A9DC3D5-1C 2018-03-05 22:25:25.75969171 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.17]) by ismtpd0005p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id YuCJprgESSifmuptTl2ZSA for ; Mon, 05 Mar 2018 22:25:25.530 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2018 22:25:25 +0000 (UTC) From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Specify Version Negotiation after Crypto Failure (#1069) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a9dc3d569477_1c4e2b2094184ec8121255"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak12VHfSxMfYxZ4zx/XDsB0bxNbFCUtuwtxoIb fkcw1bVLADtfoALpRtkSaYq6haEs4Ysq0rTRR6Z+YADCWTS4tp0yw14fNhDcOTqJ7Nt36bxoGD8i/z n6f37GmNxJrbZv9WkIby4wHXxJulcVprGtR4vYvHleunFhyz5so1U9kbAH56sCzkpz9y4sSxvb2IGM k= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2018 22:25:27 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a9dc3d569477_1c4e2b2094184ec8121255 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Closed #1069 via #1156. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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----==_mimepart_5a9dc3d543b46_76082acbd456cec4671b5-- From nobody Mon Mar 5 14:25:58 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EE991275AB for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 14:25:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.381 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.381 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hflgld3l-UoH for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 14:25:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2-ext5.iad.github.net [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B9FCA1273E2 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 14:25:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2018 14:25:52 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1520288753; bh=yiFO+S7TMBvhh9k8iMDxd+0heXV+VYgDd66QfGYR1rw=; h=From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=a0wMTilYQtdqxZG4DKxW5+iT/Y+znYgc+4FwhWFYNP2AGa359ZCpm19GVgRPKNuok /nvqPxujIUlQbqIshdWWZ95dWdjq6+EtSO9X2LKrhHl+0a2PGKOcHQwdITyZdWkUv9 aYQ0Vh3wX/TOy9tHqtcVp2w7qC2echdBGz4DzQV8= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Version Negotiation Routing Problem (#1146) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a9dc3f0d48c0_159c2b2841838ecc5237d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2018 22:25:58 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a9dc3f0d48c0_159c2b2841838ecc5237d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oh, maybe I'm not thinking clearly here. In vneg dest is random, fine. On normal handshake destination is replaced by servers chosen source. And then both CID's are free. Yes. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1146#issuecomment-370589548 ----==_mimepart_5a9dc3f0d48c0_159c2b2841838ecc5237d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Oh, maybe I'm not thinking clearly here. In vneg dest is random, fine. On normal handshake destination is replaced by servers chosen source. And then both CID's are free. Yes.

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----==_mimepart_5a9dc3f0d48c0_159c2b2841838ecc5237d-- From nobody Mon Mar 5 14:27:53 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D10D127010 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 14:27:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.391 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.391 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3uTWFL2HSWdz for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 14:27:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from o6.sgmail.github.com (o6.sgmail.github.com [192.254.113.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CCF421273E2 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 14:27:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=KFy1PWsLRUoVfz3aJJ521BE+jGw=; b=X3kEYte4TO+BG0IN slLxHjy7xEs3q9c/LXyOqSfGmlBtX0sxNr5XqT8XOaRY8Yz28is/D+SMObxqYmZ0 REMf8F6IRUUXR8JHIP9X/plWgJXme3hNUL9M68omzdNjr7a9JhwIrL+UNbz2OpKt RW0UBB5/4dwbe30FVnLgSQIEkYc= Received: by filter0488p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0488p1iad2-30066-5A9DC463-1D 2018-03-05 22:27:47.67483944 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.17]) by ismtpd0003p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id sgki1QabTP6L5UcJDSaFog for ; Mon, 05 Mar 2018 22:27:47.563 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2018 22:27:47 +0000 (UTC) From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Running out of NEW_CONNECTION_ID (#1163) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a9dc4623b799_11793f96dfb56f34178682"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak1uVDUZvFyxU5Q4vi0YyAsXrReIqwoeaFCjDI MeaVpCs81X+uIo2UlW9LA2xkwFOAQIOP/6L4DAa0SOJIH8hoz9pkVVuV7VKGo/6iaaJI8BGIUvAZuT 5IlRSKdMW0h4yqyH8AbKQPjX/p1Ra6yHNIbmskmx/Ur/n4UUCx6cL9uwKbFtNE909+bi0stQCNmRHR M= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2018 22:27:51 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a9dc4623b799_11793f96dfb56f34178682 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @mirjak asked what happens if you need to send using a different connection ID, but you ran out the supply from your peer? I think that it is possible to adopt two policies: either favour continuity at the expense of linkability, or favour unlinkability at the expense of continuing the session. We should explain this trade-off somewhere. We should also encourage the provision of an ample supply of connection IDs. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1163 ----==_mimepart_5a9dc4623b799_11793f96dfb56f34178682 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@mirjak asked what happens if you need to send using a different connection ID, but you ran out the supply from your peer?

I think that it is possible to adopt two policies: either favour continuity at the expense of linkability, or favour unlinkability at the expense of continuing the session. We should explain this trade-off somewhere. We should also encourage the provision of an ample supply of connection IDs.

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A QUIC packet with a short header has the high bit of the first octet set to 0. -A QUIC packet with a short header includes an optional connection ID and no -version field. The second bit of that octet (that is, 0x40) determines whether -the connection ID is present. If the second bit is cleared, a 64-bit connection -ID immediately follows the first octet. If the second bit is set, the remainder -of the packet has version-specific semantics. +A QUIC packet with a short header includes a Destination Connection ID. The Yep, either that or it includes a zero-length connection ID :) > + +An endpoint which wishes to break linkability upon changing networks MUST use +the connection ID provided by its peer as well as incrementing the packet +sequence number by an externally unpredictable value computed as described in +{{packet-number-gap}}. Packet number gaps are cumulative. An endpoint might +skip connection IDs, but it MUST ensure that it applies the associated packet +number gaps for connection IDs that it skips in addition to the packet number +gap associated with the connection ID that it does use. + +An endpoint that receives a packet that is marked with a new connection ID +recovers the packet number by adding the cumulative packet number gap to its +expected packet number. An endpoint MUST discard packets that contain a smaller +gap than it advertised. + +An endpoint that receives a packet either with a previously unused connection ID +or with an empty connection ID and from a new remote address MUST use the next Hmm, only if it does trial decryption for all connections. Probably unrealistic. Trimming "with an empty connection ID and" out. > +An endpoint which wishes to break linkability upon changing networks MUST use +the connection ID provided by its peer as well as incrementing the packet +sequence number by an externally unpredictable value computed as described in +{{packet-number-gap}}. Packet number gaps are cumulative. An endpoint might +skip connection IDs, but it MUST ensure that it applies the associated packet +number gaps for connection IDs that it skips in addition to the packet number +gap associated with the connection ID that it does use. + +An endpoint that receives a packet that is marked with a new connection ID +recovers the packet number by adding the cumulative packet number gap to its +expected packet number. An endpoint MUST discard packets that contain a smaller +gap than it advertised. + +An endpoint that receives a packet either with a previously unused connection ID +or with an empty connection ID and from a new remote address MUST use the next +available connection ID for any packets it sends to that address. Failing to do Opened #1163 > @@ -2320,15 +2362,28 @@ Sequence: the value selected during the handshake comes immediately before the first value that a server can send. +Length: + +: An 8-bit unsigned integer containing the length of the connection ID. Values + less than 8 and greater than 22 are invalid and MUST be treated as a + connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION. Well, if you are migrating to new load balancing infrastructure, it might help. Note that you probably need an indicator of length in the connection ID itself to make this work, or a period where the common prefix is distinct. 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In draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md:

> @@ -178,16 +191,17 @@ version-specific semantics are marked with an X.
 
 A QUIC packet with a short header has the high bit of the first octet set to 0.
 
-A QUIC packet with a short header includes an optional connection ID and no
-version field.  The second bit of that octet (that is, 0x40) determines whether
-the connection ID is present.  If the second bit is cleared, a 64-bit connection
-ID immediately follows the first octet.  If the second bit is set, the remainder
-of the packet has version-specific semantics.
+A QUIC packet with a short header includes a Destination Connection ID.  The

Yep, either that or it includes a zero-length connection ID :)

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+An endpoint which wishes to break linkability upon changing networks MUST use
+the connection ID provided by its peer as well as incrementing the packet
+sequence number by an externally unpredictable value computed as described in
+{{packet-number-gap}}. Packet number gaps are cumulative.  An endpoint might
+skip connection IDs, but it MUST ensure that it applies the associated packet
+number gaps for connection IDs that it skips in addition to the packet number
+gap associated with the connection ID that it does use.
+
+An endpoint that receives a packet that is marked with a new connection ID
+recovers the packet number by adding the cumulative packet number gap to its
+expected packet number.  An endpoint MUST discard packets that contain a smaller
+gap than it advertised.
+
+An endpoint that receives a packet either with a previously unused connection ID
+or with an empty connection ID and from a new remote address MUST use the next

Hmm, only if it does trial decryption for all connections. Probably unrealistic. Trimming "with an empty connection ID and" out.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +An endpoint which wishes to break linkability upon changing networks MUST use
+the connection ID provided by its peer as well as incrementing the packet
+sequence number by an externally unpredictable value computed as described in
+{{packet-number-gap}}. Packet number gaps are cumulative.  An endpoint might
+skip connection IDs, but it MUST ensure that it applies the associated packet
+number gaps for connection IDs that it skips in addition to the packet number
+gap associated with the connection ID that it does use.
+
+An endpoint that receives a packet that is marked with a new connection ID
+recovers the packet number by adding the cumulative packet number gap to its
+expected packet number.  An endpoint MUST discard packets that contain a smaller
+gap than it advertised.
+
+An endpoint that receives a packet either with a previously unused connection ID
+or with an empty connection ID and from a new remote address MUST use the next
+available connection ID for any packets it sends to that address.  Failing to do

Opened #1163

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2320,15 +2362,28 @@ Sequence:
   the value selected during the handshake comes immediately before the first
   value that a server can send.
 
+Length:
+
+: An 8-bit unsigned integer containing the length of the connection ID.  Values
+  less than 8 and greater than 22 are invalid and MUST be treated as a
+  connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.

Well, if you are migrating to new load balancing infrastructure, it might help. Note that you probably need an indicator of length in the connection ID itself to make this work, or a period where the common prefix is distinct.

Basically, I couldn't see any reason not to allow this, given that it's the endpoint that sends NEW_CONNECTION_ID that absorbs the complexity cost.

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There is also the DoS concern, forcing routing state both at endpoint and middleware.

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I will note that based on the current set of open issues and PRs, QCRAM may diverge from HPACK more over time. The core idea of a shared rotating dynamic table doesn't seem to be going anywhere, however. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1164 -- Commit Summary -- * Rename QCRAM to QPACK -- File Changes -- R draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md (28) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1164.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1164.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1164 ----==_mimepart_5a9de2b3e658b_7d7c3fa9d7a54f2c13005e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
  • As discussed in #1133, QPACK is a more natural name given its similarity to HPACK.

I will note that based on the current set of open issues and PRs, QCRAM may diverge from HPACK more over time. The core idea of a shared rotating dynamic table doesn't seem to be going anywhere, however.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1164

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+An endpoint which wishes to break linkability upon changing networks MUST use
+the connection ID provided by its peer as well as incrementing the packet
+sequence number by an externally unpredictable value computed as described in
+{{packet-number-gap}}. Packet number gaps are cumulative.  An endpoint might
+skip connection IDs, but it MUST ensure that it applies the associated packet
+number gaps for connection IDs that it skips in addition to the packet number
+gap associated with the connection ID that it does use.
+
+An endpoint that receives a packet that is marked with a new connection ID
+recovers the packet number by adding the cumulative packet number gap to its
+expected packet number.  An endpoint MUST discard packets that contain a smaller
+gap than it advertised.
+
+An endpoint that receives a packet either with a previously unused connection ID
+or with an empty connection ID and from a new remote address MUST use the next

Please, drop: "or from a new remote address". No "either" there. Otherwise, you are setting yourself up for an attack, where the attacker just replays the same packet from many different addresses toward a peer, draining the list of connection IDs that peer has. Then, when there is a genuine connection migration, the peer has no connection IDs left.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +sequence number by an externally unpredictable value computed as described in
+{{packet-number-gap}}. Packet number gaps are cumulative.  An endpoint might
+skip connection IDs, but it MUST ensure that it applies the associated packet
+number gaps for connection IDs that it skips in addition to the packet number
+gap associated with the connection ID that it does use.
+
+An endpoint that receives a packet that is marked with a new connection ID
+recovers the packet number by adding the cumulative packet number gap to its
+expected packet number.  An endpoint MUST discard packets that contain a smaller
+gap than it advertised.
+
+An endpoint that receives a packet either with a previously unused connection ID
+or with an empty connection ID and from a new remote address MUST use the next
+available connection ID for any packets it sends to that address.  Failing to do
+this would allow for use of that connection ID to link activity on new paths.
+An endpoint SHOULD use a new connection ID if it observes a change in address

See above why SHOULD should be SHOULD NOT. I.e. you do not want an attacker resend the same packet from many src IPs. In any case, the linkability cause is probably lost, if even one packet has made it from one peer to another with an old connection ID over the new path (even in one direction).

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As I mentioned on PR##1151, if we change to asymmetric connection IDs with variable length, it would be ideal to have the version come before the connection IDs in the long header, because then it would be at a fixed offset and the destination connection ID would also still be at a fixed(but 4 byte later) offset. 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As I mentioned on PR##1151, if we change to asymmetric connection IDs with variable length, it would be ideal to have the version come before the connection IDs in the long header, because then it would be at a fixed offset and the destination connection ID would also still be at a fixed(but 4 byte later) offset.

Due to the importance of Connection ID, there is no intent to remove Connection ID from the invariants, though this change may enable some extra flexibility far down the road.

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  • Move version ahead of connection IDs

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Packet number gaps are cumulative. An endpoint might +skip connection IDs, but it MUST ensure that it applies the associated packet +number gaps for connection IDs that it skips in addition to the packet number +gap associated with the connection ID that it does use. + +An endpoint that receives a packet that is marked with a new connection ID +recovers the packet number by adding the cumulative packet number gap to its +expected packet number. An endpoint MUST discard packets that contain a smaller +gap than it advertised. + +An endpoint that receives a packet either with a previously unused connection ID +or with an empty connection ID and from a new remote address MUST use the next Would it be enough to insist that the packet be authenticated? The current rules for migration require that the packet be both authenticated and have the largest packet number seen thus far. That isn't perfect, but the fact here is that an attacker with that level of control can cause new connection IDs to be used. > +sequence number by an externally unpredictable value computed as described in +{{packet-number-gap}}. Packet number gaps are cumulative. An endpoint might +skip connection IDs, but it MUST ensure that it applies the associated packet +number gaps for connection IDs that it skips in addition to the packet number +gap associated with the connection ID that it does use. + +An endpoint that receives a packet that is marked with a new connection ID +recovers the packet number by adding the cumulative packet number gap to its +expected packet number. An endpoint MUST discard packets that contain a smaller +gap than it advertised. + +An endpoint that receives a packet either with a previously unused connection ID +or with an empty connection ID and from a new remote address MUST use the next +available connection ID for any packets it sends to that address. Failing to do +this would allow for use of that connection ID to link activity on new paths. +An endpoint SHOULD use a new connection ID if it observes a change in address That's fair, but I'm going to remove 2119 language there. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1151#discussion_r172392290 ----==_mimepart_5a9e26573dab1_1cc83fb60a2a2f382304f3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+An endpoint which wishes to break linkability upon changing networks MUST use
+the connection ID provided by its peer as well as incrementing the packet
+sequence number by an externally unpredictable value computed as described in
+{{packet-number-gap}}. Packet number gaps are cumulative.  An endpoint might
+skip connection IDs, but it MUST ensure that it applies the associated packet
+number gaps for connection IDs that it skips in addition to the packet number
+gap associated with the connection ID that it does use.
+
+An endpoint that receives a packet that is marked with a new connection ID
+recovers the packet number by adding the cumulative packet number gap to its
+expected packet number.  An endpoint MUST discard packets that contain a smaller
+gap than it advertised.
+
+An endpoint that receives a packet either with a previously unused connection ID
+or with an empty connection ID and from a new remote address MUST use the next

Would it be enough to insist that the packet be authenticated? The current rules for migration require that the packet be both authenticated and have the largest packet number seen thus far. That isn't perfect, but the fact here is that an attacker with that level of control can cause new connection IDs to be used.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +sequence number by an externally unpredictable value computed as described in
+{{packet-number-gap}}. Packet number gaps are cumulative.  An endpoint might
+skip connection IDs, but it MUST ensure that it applies the associated packet
+number gaps for connection IDs that it skips in addition to the packet number
+gap associated with the connection ID that it does use.
+
+An endpoint that receives a packet that is marked with a new connection ID
+recovers the packet number by adding the cumulative packet number gap to its
+expected packet number.  An endpoint MUST discard packets that contain a smaller
+gap than it advertised.
+
+An endpoint that receives a packet either with a previously unused connection ID
+or with an empty connection ID and from a new remote address MUST use the next
+available connection ID for any packets it sends to that address.  Failing to do
+this would allow for use of that connection ID to link activity on new paths.
+An endpoint SHOULD use a new connection ID if it observes a change in address

That's fair, but I'm going to remove 2119 language there.

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----==_mimepart_5a9e26573dab1_1cc83fb60a2a2f382304f3-- From nobody Mon Mar 5 21:28:12 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54230126C19 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 21:28:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.499 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.499 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id APJt9mXgvKvN for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 21:28:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from m69-170.mailgun.net (m69-170.mailgun.net [166.78.69.170]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B06FE124217 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 21:28:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; v=1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; q=dns/txt; s=mailo; t=1520314089; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type: Mime-Version: Subject: Message-ID: To: Reply-To: From: Date: Sender; bh=wJd5NAtEWOgHTLOw9/esTmCQptrJEYMp5ws6sxYaT80=; b=WSfW9sFvS7FOq/25uyVnSbhsDrfgFY/T5FEOXPYQl2JBYcuIRziYuxs7X830ZVaOHz515ZxQ noQ5xd5XTdjlwG7jRaXVoVUL9983PZ9iU3RwdH7yEW0k+uLcCTu9vsWxHNj5SwLzYdbOcIxw 0CUykYu6V5Nm2SpdB2kRWb7q3zI= X-Mailgun-Sid: WyJhNzYyYiIsICJxdWljLWlzc3Vlc0BpZXRmLm9yZyIsICI0MGYiXQ== X-Mailgun-Sending-Ip: 166.78.69.170 Sender: martin.thomson=gmail.com@github.com Received: from github.com (Unknown [192.30.252.37]) by mxa.mailgun.org with ESMTP id 5a9e26e8.7f4a60159de0-smtp-out-n01; Tue, 06 Mar 2018 05:28:08 -0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2018 21:28:08 -0800 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: <5a9e26e8a426f_29e12abd22413c14817a6@hookshot-fe-32b5f5b.cp1-iad.github.net.mail> Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] 8ecd95: wip Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a9e26e8a3d5c_29e12abd22413c1481620"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2018 05:28:11 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a9e26e8a3d5c_29e12abd22413c1481620 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Branch: refs/heads/symmetric-connection-id Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: 8ecd955816a10acbe8abd0cfc94c135ae8e7196b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8ecd955816a10acbe8abd0cfc94c135ae8e7196b Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-06 (Tue, 06 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- wip Commit: d55ddf8f56d22e157ddc6b1ac3ab4ffd7f7c2022 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d55ddf8f56d22e157ddc6b1ac3ab4ffd7f7c2022 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-06 (Tue, 06 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Symmetric connection IDs Lots of changes here. Obviously people will feel inclined to nitpick at the length encoding. Feel free, but I think that I have good reasons for my choices there. The NEW_CONNECTION_ID thing is tricky. As was the analysis around the handshake packet keys. Also, note the trick in Version Negotiation packets about swapping the connection IDs. That makes client packet handling much simpler. The big loss is in stateless reset, which I think that I've covered well enough. Closes #1101. Commit: d925ba0e27fd39e97fb46bd11e1dcaf097a00a74 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d925ba0e27fd39e97fb46bd11e1dcaf097a00a74 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-06 (Tue, 06 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Address review comments, closes #1052 Commit: d8a59b3dbfd3c48bfeb1ef04be9dfe78ad42245b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d8a59b3dbfd3c48bfeb1ef04be9dfe78ad42245b Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-06 (Tue, 06 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Review-based tweakin' Commit: b6db6fae2815b363b6b7f46b8f001eb88f21b56e https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b6db6fae2815b363b6b7f46b8f001eb88f21b56e Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-06 (Tue, 06 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Closes #1146 too Commit: 5343125a595cf4ecde3d921c6f6dd38d2ac89af9 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5343125a595cf4ecde3d921c6f6dd38d2ac89af9 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-06 (Tue, 06 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Closes #821 too Commit: acf8bfe99785a6617962d7a4786cc389f0d7b84b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/acf8bfe99785a6617962d7a4786cc389f0d7b84b Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-06 (Tue, 06 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Let's not flip around too often unnecessarily Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/387911ddd8b0...acf8bfe99785 ----==_mimepart_5a9e26e8a3d5c_29e12abd22413c1481620-- From nobody Mon Mar 5 21:28:44 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B149124C27 for ; 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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit igorlord commented on this pull request. > + +An endpoint which wishes to break linkability upon changing networks MUST use +the connection ID provided by its peer as well as incrementing the packet +sequence number by an externally unpredictable value computed as described in +{{packet-number-gap}}. Packet number gaps are cumulative. An endpoint might +skip connection IDs, but it MUST ensure that it applies the associated packet +number gaps for connection IDs that it skips in addition to the packet number +gap associated with the connection ID that it does use. + +An endpoint that receives a packet that is marked with a new connection ID +recovers the packet number by adding the cumulative packet number gap to its +expected packet number. An endpoint MUST discard packets that contain a smaller +gap than it advertised. + +An endpoint that receives a packet either with a previously unused connection ID +or with an empty connection ID and from a new remote address MUST use the next Thanks for updating. The level of control required is not much, really, especially if the connection is over ipv6 (ie. the number of unique ip addresses under attacker's control is enormous). The ability to collect and correlate data from multiple independent networks to follow nodes across migrations assumes a rather awesome level of control and resources already. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1151#discussion_r172416148 ----==_mimepart_5a9e2d0728122_154a3fc2ab442f34137829 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+An endpoint which wishes to break linkability upon changing networks MUST use
+the connection ID provided by its peer as well as incrementing the packet
+sequence number by an externally unpredictable value computed as described in
+{{packet-number-gap}}. Packet number gaps are cumulative.  An endpoint might
+skip connection IDs, but it MUST ensure that it applies the associated packet
+number gaps for connection IDs that it skips in addition to the packet number
+gap associated with the connection ID that it does use.
+
+An endpoint that receives a packet that is marked with a new connection ID
+recovers the packet number by adding the cumulative packet number gap to its
+expected packet number.  An endpoint MUST discard packets that contain a smaller
+gap than it advertised.
+
+An endpoint that receives a packet either with a previously unused connection ID
+or with an empty connection ID and from a new remote address MUST use the next

Thanks for updating. The level of control required is not much, really, especially if the connection is over ipv6 (ie. the number of unique ip addresses under attacker's control is enormous).

The ability to collect and correlate data from multiple independent networks to follow nodes across migrations assumes a rather awesome level of control and resources already.

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@mikkelfj commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +number gaps for connection IDs that it skips in addition to the packet number
+gap associated with the connection ID that it does use.
+
+An endpoint that receives a packet that is marked with a new connection ID
+recovers the packet number by adding the cumulative packet number gap to its
+expected packet number.  An endpoint MUST discard packets that contain a smaller
+gap than it advertised.
+
+An endpoint that receives a successfully authenticated packet with a previously
+unused connection ID MUST use the next available connection ID for any packets
+it sends to that address.  To avoid changing connection IDs multiple times when
+packets arrive out of order, endpoints MUST change only in response to a packet
+that increases the largest received packet number.  Failing to do this could
+allow for use of that connection ID to link activity on new paths.  There is no
+need to move to a new connection ID if the address of a peer changes without
+also changing the connection ID.

I'm not fully up to speed on connection migration, so bear with me, but...

What if both endpoints migrate? For example B has sent two NEW_ID_B(1,2) to A, and A sends two NEW_ID_A(1,2) to B. A migrates and consumes the first NEW_ID_B(1). Then B migrates and consumes NEW_ID_A(1). But because either end has migrated, they are now on new infrastructure and the load balancers no longer understand NEW_ID_A(2) or NEW_ID_B(2).

It seems to me that you cannot have a sequential NEW_ID - assuming an endpoint only migrates to one location at a time (no multipath) there must a be a latest NEW_ID that will work, but the older might not. It is just trial an error until something works?

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Maybe I'm just not reading careful enough, but could we perhaps change t= he language slightly - despite that I have been thinking about this problem= for a long time, I still got confused. There are 3 different connection ID= 's. The initial connection ID chosen randomly by client, and the client cho= sen ID, and the server chosen ID. Each of these are sometimes a Destination= ID or a Source ID depending on direction.

In some place there is a wording along "Even if the server changes the I= D, the same ID must be used". It would be helpful to clarify which kind of = ID and exactly for how long.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +number gaps for connection IDs that it skips in addition to the packet number
+gap associated with the connection ID that it does use.
+
+An endpoint that receives a packet that is marked with a new connection ID
+recovers the packet number by adding the cumulative packet number gap to its
+expected packet number.  An endpoint MUST discard packets that contain a smaller
+gap than it advertised.
+
+An endpoint that receives a successfully authenticated packet with a previously
+unused connection ID MUST use the next available connection ID for any packets
+it sends to that address.  To avoid changing connection IDs multiple times when
+packets arrive out of order, endpoints MUST change only in response to a packet
+that increases the largest received packet number.  Failing to do this could
+allow for use of that connection ID to link activity on new paths.  There is no
+need to move to a new connection ID if the address of a peer changes without
+also changing the connection ID.

Migration happens with short headers, so there is usually one connection ID in each direction.

For instance, the client might be sending SCID3 and the server might send CCID2. If the client moves, then it sends SCID4. The server sees the new connection ID from the client and moves to sending CCID3.

Note that connection IDs are currently strictly sequential, but that is not a property we need to preserve if we encrypt packet numbers. Any connection ID should work (with some caveats that I can go into more).

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----==_mimepart_5a9e55aa5af8_586e3fe2b103af3866155-- From nobody Tue Mar 6 00:50:48 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D78BE124D37 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2018 00:50:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wDTsaUYtJ-HI for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2018 00:50:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from o8.sgmail.github.com (o8.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.199]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3FA76120724 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2018 00:50:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=EBlYp8opgQGPUeR+hQiixSorEoc=; b=kOzBDtBaU6b8+HJV hoxITsbyBgjGnLA2ACtcPAqb/uIH4aR5TNyZ3OSYO7X9GatbaYe5rBFhtE1E2g84 TE74Rd7N+tlmur6U+UPXHd/1dceH+udv3wLNdj2rQVO1u9BbbSDozv63hGWtbHT+ BEuUnPBlCUaDs3QZXq1OJpw33FQ= Received: by filter0557p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0557p1iad2-11778-5A9E5664-7 2018-03-06 08:50:44.280000197 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2b-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.17]) by ismtpd0003p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id 9LEwrVDMRIKFDn0SPV-Y3w for ; Tue, 06 Mar 2018 08:50:44.141 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2018 08:50:44 +0000 (UTC) From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Symmetric connection IDs (#1151) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a9e5661b8204_390b3fe99e60ef383398f2"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak1TO2abBI/ek/Ax4TTKfGjDVqPTWP5g7t3e6a UcehLQ3JGvpDefA1lV5dgVRhT6/uP8O/inMUhGh60vjYyY1rjMLvmpErm4Aqj1AszaaiIjWzz3vUz/ yr5Gm2u3Jko9xITJuD3ZpzzxgJOHRYsHf1tsJVCD338X52swiZUJOXE3Bqhjn3JAXdpFfQ0Sua35ou g= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2018 08:50:47 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a9e5661b8204_390b3fe99e60ef383398f2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Not following you there. There are actually 4 discrete values for connection ID that might be in use during the handshake (the server can update its choice if it sends Retry). I added this recently, does it help? > During the handshake, an endpoint might receive multiple packets with the long header, and thus be given multiple opportunities to update the Destination Connection ID it sends. An client MUST only change the value it sends in the Destination Connection ID field in response to the first packet of each type (Retry, or Handshake) that it receives; a server MUST only change its value based on an Initial packet. This avoids problems that might arise from stateless processing of multiple Initial packets producing different connection IDs. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1151#issuecomment-370707895 ----==_mimepart_5a9e5661b8204_390b3fe99e60ef383398f2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Not following you there. There are actually 4 discrete values for conne= ction ID that might be in use during the handshake (the server can update i= ts choice if it sends Retry).

I added this recently, does it help?

During the handshake, an endpoint might receive multiple packets with th= e long
header, and thus be given multiple opportunities to update the Destination<= br> Connection ID it sends. An client MUST only change the value it sends in t= he
Destination Connection ID field in response to the first packet of each typ= e
(Retry, or Handshake) that it receives; a server MUST only change its value=
based on an Initial packet. This avoids problems that might arise from
stateless processing of multiple Initial packets producing different connec= tion
IDs.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +number gaps for connection IDs that it skips in addition to the packet number
+gap associated with the connection ID that it does use.
+
+An endpoint that receives a packet that is marked with a new connection ID
+recovers the packet number by adding the cumulative packet number gap to its
+expected packet number.  An endpoint MUST discard packets that contain a smaller
+gap than it advertised.
+
+An endpoint that receives a successfully authenticated packet with a previously
+unused connection ID MUST use the next available connection ID for any packets
+it sends to that address.  To avoid changing connection IDs multiple times when
+packets arrive out of order, endpoints MUST change only in response to a packet
+that increases the largest received packet number.  Failing to do this could
+allow for use of that connection ID to link activity on new paths.  There is no
+need to move to a new connection ID if the address of a peer changes without
+also changing the connection ID.

OK, thanks for explaining - as long as this has been given some consideration, I'm happy.

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I still wonder if might help to provide a name to the initial Destination ID, such as Client Probe ID, or whatever. Note typo "An client MUST". -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1151#issuecomment-370716348 ----==_mimepart_5a9e5d93b6749_9782ae73f9faec4337e0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Yes this clarifies the last part. I still wonder if might help to provide a name to the initial Destination ID, such as Client Probe ID, or whatever. Note typo "An client MUST".

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mikkelfj commented on this pull request. > +number gaps for connection IDs that it skips in addition to the packet number +gap associated with the connection ID that it does use. + +An endpoint that receives a packet that is marked with a new connection ID +recovers the packet number by adding the cumulative packet number gap to its +expected packet number. An endpoint MUST discard packets that contain a smaller +gap than it advertised. + +An endpoint that receives a successfully authenticated packet with a previously +unused connection ID MUST use the next available connection ID for any packets +it sends to that address. To avoid changing connection IDs multiple times when +packets arrive out of order, endpoints MUST change only in response to a packet +that increases the largest received packet number. Failing to do this could +allow for use of that connection ID to link activity on new paths. There is no +need to move to a new connection ID if the address of a peer changes without +also changing the connection ID. Hmm - in the above example: If the server later moves, it uses CCID4 and the client sees this and sends SCID5. But SCID5 was send in a NEW_ID message before the server moved to use CCID4 and the server is now behind infrastructure that does not understand SCID5. If the migration where the server sends CCID4 also marks the smallest valid SCID, there should be no issue - perhaps this is already the case. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1151#discussion_r172458591 ----==_mimepart_5a9e623acb7e8_3cb63f84a4138f2c14266 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +number gaps for connection IDs that it skips in addition to the packet number
+gap associated with the connection ID that it does use.
+
+An endpoint that receives a packet that is marked with a new connection ID
+recovers the packet number by adding the cumulative packet number gap to its
+expected packet number.  An endpoint MUST discard packets that contain a smaller
+gap than it advertised.
+
+An endpoint that receives a successfully authenticated packet with a previously
+unused connection ID MUST use the next available connection ID for any packets
+it sends to that address.  To avoid changing connection IDs multiple times when
+packets arrive out of order, endpoints MUST change only in response to a packet
+that increases the largest received packet number.  Failing to do this could
+allow for use of that connection ID to link activity on new paths.  There is no
+need to move to a new connection ID if the address of a peer changes without
+also changing the connection ID.

Hmm - in the above example: If the server later moves, it uses CCID4 and the client sees this and sends SCID5. But SCID5 was send in a NEW_ID message before the server moved to use CCID4 and the server is now behind infrastructure that does not understand SCID5.

If the migration where the server sends CCID4 also marks the smallest valid SCID, there should be no issue - perhaps this is already the case.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +number gaps for connection IDs that it skips in addition to the packet number
+gap associated with the connection ID that it does use.
+
+An endpoint that receives a packet that is marked with a new connection ID
+recovers the packet number by adding the cumulative packet number gap to its
+expected packet number.  An endpoint MUST discard packets that contain a smaller
+gap than it advertised.
+
+An endpoint that receives a successfully authenticated packet with a previously
+unused connection ID MUST use the next available connection ID for any packets
+it sends to that address.  To avoid changing connection IDs multiple times when
+packets arrive out of order, endpoints MUST change only in response to a packet
+that increases the largest received packet number.  Failing to do this could
+allow for use of that connection ID to link activity on new paths.  There is no
+need to move to a new connection ID if the address of a peer changes without
+also changing the connection ID.

It is the responsibility of the endpoint to ensure that any connection ID it provides to its peer is capable of reaching it, no matter where it moves to. The only stipulation being that packets arrive at an address that the endpoint control. Either the endpoint or intermediaries over which it has influence, like a load balancer.

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If VNEG is an invariant and easily observable, why not fix the unused bi= ts to 0 for this specifical instance where version is 0. This would make it= trivial to test for VNEG. It's not like VNEG could later use the unused bi= ts for anything useful later on.

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When a client attempts a 0RTT handshake and gets a Retry from the server, can that client retry with another 0RTT handshake attempt, or does it need to fall back to 1RTT?

(Hit this issue during interop. My client sends an initial CI+0RTT packet pair, receives a retry, and then resends a new CI+0RTT packet pair. Is this permitted?)

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Note that the TLS 1.3 spec forbids the client to send the early_data extension after a HelloRetryRequest
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tls-tls13-24#section-4.1.2

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----==_mimepart_5a9eae61d761f_2af33f9b8bcc0f2c205225-- From nobody Tue Mar 6 07:24:14 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89DCA120454 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2018 07:24:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3KpLoWP34cLJ for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2018 07:24:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2-ext5.iad.github.net [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7F427124D68 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2018 07:24:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2018 07:23:09 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1520349841; bh=N0rnnMVLci5UiG3J2bQmFVvMQcCtIshobazmZQyc7zw=; h=From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=0lILUvs9SVqr1yzjVcLc2BBZgPIAS3CunqNn6d8MvJPSdwptG/oghJdB95cEmscGJ eFGqXc8U0dR6T5M0sEDkhf+/9gBj+nh1TcrScmu/NLBIVeJnMlZ8bI/y9URnNtNwYv sQiXOxQU+Lmd9Cm2C+cT1n6JjNsz3l42r4kIKp0k= From: Tatsuhiro Tsujikawa Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] min_rtt could stay 0 (#1169) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a9eb25dc7475_215e2adaae22cec424623a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: tatsuhiro-t X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2018 15:24:08 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a9eb25dc7475_215e2adaae22cec424623a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-recovery-10#section-3.4.3 says that min_rtt is initialized to 0. And it is updated using the following formula: // min_rtt ignores ack delay. min_rtt = min(min_rtt, latest_rtt) This means that unless latest_rtt is negative (not possible), min_rtt stays 0. I think there is missing something which treats 0 min_rtt as special, but not sure. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1169 ----==_mimepart_5a9eb25dc7475_215e2adaae22cec424623a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-recovery-10#section-3.4.3 says that min_rtt is initialized to 0.

And it is updated using the following formula:

  // min_rtt ignores ack delay.
   min_rtt = min(min_rtt, latest_rtt)

This means that unless latest_rtt is negative (not possible), min_rtt stays 0.
I think there is missing something which treats 0 min_rtt as special, but not sure.

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I think that means that 0RTT after retry is not allowed

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@ekr said = on slack:

0-RTT after retry is forbidden in TLS 1.3
It's not like it somehow couldn't be made to work, we just concluded it was= too confusing

and later

TLS 1.3 does allow you to do a HRR with no other requested chan= ges. We put that in so it would work with DTLS 1.3.

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Given that we're trying not to modify TLS rules when running in QUIC, I'd agree. Do you think we need text reminding implementers of this?

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----==_mimepart_5a9eda50b5bd1_38c32b07fa808ec82236fe-- From nobody Tue Mar 6 10:38:57 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F30CD12DA26 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2018 10:38:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GvLbIu2q9Eba for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2018 10:38:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2-ext4.iad.github.net [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8A66112E050 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2018 10:38:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2018 10:38:44 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1520361531; bh=pTRSUESmWCt+R0mKMp0qVmMLNKpmjmNH1bPM+5PiTVY=; h=From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=DZEf0iqKEgvwa7TXMo+CccWU5SYhlEFhBM9+vy3a8YBA+KLIip8XA4AW++0la0cyd v8hILCbUyNKs4AfI1URYaD3gigFuEZ/YJfMUaLOkkUJtngcNQ0W2ZP45674NzqRWXl jJBXVutUhaeUdQwdGeLqA6HotBZqqdVgCzfzniyY= From: Lars Eggert Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Is 0RTT allowed after HRR? (#1168) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a9ee0347a798_23792ae5c4a8eed4577395"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: larseggert X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2018 18:38:56 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a9ee0347a798_23792ae5c4a8eed4577395 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think that would be helpful. I will add that when I did the 0RTT stuff = in quant, and J=C3=B6rg did it for pandora, we both found that part of th= e spec to be pretty underspecified. Pretty much the only thing that expla= ins the details is Figure 3 in -tls. -- = You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1168#issuecomment-370883528= ----==_mimepart_5a9ee0347a798_23792ae5c4a8eed4577395 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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----==_mimepart_5a9ee206263bc_44a63f89df72ef2c83957a-- From nobody Tue Mar 6 10:49:49 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32A8B124234 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2018 10:49:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.392 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.392 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gFjsGMnrj38E for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2018 10:49:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from o7.sgmail.github.com (o7.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B270112D87D for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2018 10:49:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=WghwDCLiQKa5snQCGaHD/w4bJc4=; b=s9z9JxTgTQA1W9O/ PugD/aacMSqaquM2IFI2qXQCGZRpKXdOdH8AQ+scirnyuHFQdXSn9NJccmI+SrC9 5+sMyaxoYbd5O99qyLsL8xgPV1IjQe9r/E3ZYX/vYGHd+9qqiiwW5gopTYyBTgmL giN6nXlQJjTD5YZODOADvE6tNmc= Received: by filter0332p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0332p1iad2-6550-5A9EE2C8-36 2018-03-06 18:49:44.78616858 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0045p1mdw1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id FYRqZpz-QjyMsQRnhTU4wA for ; Tue, 06 Mar 2018 18:49:44.704 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2018 18:49:44 +0000 (UTC) From: Lars Eggert Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] RetransmitAllHandshakePackets() and SetLossDetectionAlarm() (#625) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a9ee29bc035d_64302abef484eecc7537e3"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: larseggert X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak2edzzJ34dhkZ9CsScNY2IqNpI22xDRLtqLVP wb9tqPSJdSi3bNfoG9mitPx9Gjv+PzKpQuRdESf9F5ydkTfx55DUEX+HLHv64um/4AZ1UsziAz5gXS ET2f9y9KtpSFvISxm4plHk4h5BkORW5Ilzc5ISGKEEkFtycSo4Z5M5+5QWAnSkhoKO2gEUCwefl4FN w= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2018 18:49:48 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a9ee29bc035d_64302abef484eecc7537e3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So `RetransmitAllHandshakePackets()` is still not defined in -10. I am not sure if the issue around `SetLossDetectionAlarm()` being called twice from the pseudo code codepath is still an issue. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/625#issuecomment-370886641 ----==_mimepart_5a9ee29bc035d_64302abef484eecc7537e3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

So RetransmitAllHandshakePackets() is still not defined in -10.

I am not sure if the issue around SetLossDetectionAlarm() being called twice from the pseudo code codepath is still an issue.

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OK, it seems the consensus is to leave things as they are - closing this

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Closed #752.

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Closing this as consensus seems to be to leave them in

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OK, consensus seems to be to leave things as they are - closing this

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Explicitly states the core limitation that congestion control imposes on a sender, right at the front of the section. It also includes a pointer to the place that defines exactly what bytes are covered.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1170

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  • Explicit Congestion Window Limit

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Closing -- seems it is not important.

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Fixes Issue #962

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  • 23b00c9 Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mikkel's point here, which I think is valid, is that for *version 0*, we could define the semantics of the type/unused bits. 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Mikkel's point here, which I think is valid, is that for version 0= , we could define the semantics of the type/unused bits. Requiring = the value to be 0 as part of that would be reasonable and might allow for= other values to carry some other sort of signal (though what that might = be is hard to know right now).

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8*18 = 144 - or are we starting varlen early?

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TLS 1.3 early data requires trial decryption after rejecting early data to skip over the records encrypted with 0-RTT keys that cannot be decrypted before you get to the client finished. In QUIC there will be no app data 0-RTT records, and the EndOfEarlyData is required by TLS to only be sent if early data is accepted, so there will be no records to skip but a TLS implementation will still likely set its record layer to skip TLS records that fail decryption.

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----==_mimepart_5a9f2ed9c8624_1be9d3f9660fd6f34425080-- From nobody Tue Mar 6 16:27:39 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60B36126FB3 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2018 16:27:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.626 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.626 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IcOJx5SfKMGw for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2018 16:27:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from o1.sgmail.github.com (o1.sgmail.github.com [192.254.114.176]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 436C5126B6E for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2018 16:27:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=2M28W51WR27gMNO39Uy9sh2Imqw=; b=kDMG1wyJRn51ZuoJ ve3v90uOSfoOT/Dxet2oxxxz4lhuqEl64WhhWokD8UVHM3RRx5DJilqxPCs3oUtk urZ8AJlTcTLdu31Qwng0SIZdzNbUr9Bn1eDAZK3/CjGv6AKTjibhYwT4kB0FLysZ Jp8OvXYx4jY2UL4Ejz66262ztaQ= Received: by filter0062p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0062p1las1-8902-5A9F31F6-17 2018-03-07 00:27:34.899908311 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0008p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id 2p8mk6Z5SxGlG4GDf0rH_g for ; Wed, 07 Mar 2018 00:27:34.628 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2018 00:27:35 +0000 (UTC) From: Kyle Nekritz Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Forbid using TLS records for padding after the handshake. (#1173) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a9f31f67b05c_7c102ae4f3334ed045980"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: knekritz X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak1xay6XlHa667MQgUitCiebBg3FdodBBmMqLo OMHG8/tNY48QcZSKojO1WPEudhhWdvcmC/Jmr8u3MUO2Z/wVZbP/kadpMEJSdAUWFaPdIAEyqAqcb0 yXWfriST9XQ65muJtERKV0oOdwGI746dUEYhMci6lQukcmWlRHLA2KlL5egDQnVM1h4BokT8i3xRH6 o= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2018 00:27:37 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a9f31f67b05c_7c102ae4f3334ed045980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't think there is any reason to do this rather than a PADDING frame. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1173 -- Commit Summary -- * Forbid using TLS records for padding after the handshake. -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md (5) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1173.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1173.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1173 ----==_mimepart_5a9f31f67b05c_7c102ae4f3334ed045980 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I don't think there is any reason to do this rather than a PADDING frame.

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Addressed comments, PTAL. > @@ -1477,35 +1481,240 @@ connection if the integrity check fails with a PROTOCOL_VIOLATION error code. ## Connection Migration {#migration} SGTM. done. > @@ -1477,35 +1481,240 @@ connection if the integrity check fails with a PROTOCOL_VIOLATION error code. ## Connection Migration {#migration} -QUIC connections are identified by their 64-bit Connection ID. QUIC's -consistent connection ID allows connections to survive changes to the client's -IP and/or port, such as those caused by client or server migrating to a new -network. Connection migration allows a client to retain any shared state with a -connection when they move networks. This includes state that can be hard to -recover such as outstanding requests, which might otherwise be lost with no easy -way to retry them. +QUIC allows connections to survive changes to endpoint addresses (that is, IP +address and/or port), such as those caused by a client migrating to a new +network. This section describes the protocol for migrating a connection to a +new client address. + +Migrating a connection to a new server address is left for future work. If a +client receives packets in the connection from a new server address, the client That's a different sentence... I think it's still useful because if the packets don't belong to this connection, the rest of the sentence doesn't apply. > -way to retry them. +QUIC allows connections to survive changes to endpoint addresses (that is, IP +address and/or port), such as those caused by a client migrating to a new +network. This section describes the protocol for migrating a connection to a +new client address. + +Migrating a connection to a new server address is left for future work. If a +client receives packets in the connection from a new server address, the client +MAY discard these packets. + + +### Path Validation {#migrate-validate} + +Path validation is used by a server to confirm the client's ownership of a +new address and by a client to establish reachability to the server from a new +local address. Done (with some mods). > + +Migrating a connection to a new server address is left for future work. If a +client receives packets in the connection from a new server address, the client +MAY discard these packets. + + +### Path Validation {#migrate-validate} + +Path validation is used by a server to confirm the client's ownership of a +new address and by a client to establish reachability to the server from a new +local address. + +To start path validation, an endpoint sends a PATH_CHALLENGE frame containing +a payload that is hard to guess on the path to be validated. + +On receiving a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, the peer MUST immediately respond by Ack delay does not apply, since it's not an ack that's being sent. Though this made me realize that I hadn't said anything about limiting the number of responses, so I've added some text (and moved some text around) limiting the rate at which responses are sent. > + + +### Path Validation {#migrate-validate} + +Path validation is used by a server to confirm the client's ownership of a +new address and by a client to establish reachability to the server from a new +local address. + +To start path validation, an endpoint sends a PATH_CHALLENGE frame containing +a payload that is hard to guess on the path to be validated. + +On receiving a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, the peer MUST immediately respond by +echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame. +The PATH_RESPONSE MUST be sent on the same path: from the same local address on +which the PATH_CHALLENGE was received, to the same remote address from which the +PATH_CHALLENGE was received. It was meant to establish reachability in both directions. I've written it down now. > + +On receiving a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, the peer MUST immediately respond by +echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame. +The PATH_RESPONSE MUST be sent on the same path: from the same local address on +which the PATH_CHALLENGE was received, to the same remote address from which the +PATH_CHALLENGE was received. + +The new address is not considered valid until a PATH_RESPONSE frame containing +the same payload is received, even if the packet containing the PATH_CHALLENGE +frame is acknowledged. + +The PATH_RESPONSE frame MUST be received from the same remote address to which +the corresponding PATH_CHALLENGE was sent. If a PATH_RESPONSE frame is received +from a different remote address than the one to which the PATH_CHALLENGE was +sent, path validation is considered to have failed, even if the data matches +that sent in the PATH_CHALLENGE. Perhaps this needs to be more explicitly stated, but bi-directional reachability is what is desired when doing connection migration to a new address. The test is incomplete if it only tests one direction. I've also added a sentence up above making this explicit. > + +The new address is not considered valid until a PATH_RESPONSE frame containing +the same payload is received, even if the packet containing the PATH_CHALLENGE +frame is acknowledged. + +The PATH_RESPONSE frame MUST be received from the same remote address to which +the corresponding PATH_CHALLENGE was sent. If a PATH_RESPONSE frame is received +from a different remote address than the one to which the PATH_CHALLENGE was +sent, path validation is considered to have failed, even if the data matches +that sent in the PATH_CHALLENGE. + +The PATH_RESPONSE frame MUST be received on the same local address from which +the corresponding PATH_CHALLENGE was sent. If a PATH_RESPONSE frame is received +on a different local address than the one from which the PATH_CHALLENGE was +sent, path validation is considered to have failed, even if the data matches +that sent in the PATH_CHALLENGE. done > +sent, path validation is considered to have failed, even if the data matches +that sent in the PATH_CHALLENGE. + +The PATH_RESPONSE frame MUST be received on the same local address from which +the corresponding PATH_CHALLENGE was sent. If a PATH_RESPONSE frame is received +on a different local address than the one from which the PATH_CHALLENGE was +sent, path validation is considered to have failed, even if the data matches +that sent in the PATH_CHALLENGE. + +Thus, the endpoint considers the path to be valid when a PATH_RESPONSE frame is +received on the same path with the same payload as the PATH_CHALLENGE frame. + +The endpoint MAY send additional PATH_CHALLENGE frames to handle packet loss, +but is subject to the following limit to avoid excessive network load: an +endpoint SHOULD NOT send more than one PATH_CHALLENGE frame in 200ms. This +limit is approximately equivalent to the network load due to a new connection, Ok, removed the constant and used Ian's suggested text. There's a related issue of what a peer should do if it receives too many PATH_CHALLENGE frames back-to-back. It's not an attack, but the peer's behavior needs to be prescribed. I've added some text to allow limiting the rate at which PATH_RESPONSES are sent as well. I'm sure this can be made better, but I think what is there now is reasonable I think. I am happy to open an issue to make it better if anyone feels necessary. > + +The endpoint MAY send additional PATH_CHALLENGE frames to handle packet loss, +but is subject to the following limit to avoid excessive network load: an +endpoint SHOULD NOT send more than one PATH_CHALLENGE frame in 200ms. This +limit is approximately equivalent to the network load due to a new connection, +and is based on the initial Handshake Timeout defined in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}. + +The endpoint MUST use fresh random data in every PATH_CHALLENGE frame so that it +can associate the peer's response with the causative PATH_CHALLENGE. + +The endpoint SHOULD abandon path validation after sending some number of +PATH_CHALLENGE frames or after some time has passed. When setting this timer, +implementations are cautioned that the new path could have a longer roundtrip +time than the original. The endpoint may receive packets containing other frames +during this period, but a PATH_RESPONSE frame with appropriate data is required +for the path validation to succeed. Added text about keeping load the same as connection establishment, and added subsections (and restructured a bit). > +possession of its address after a period of quiescence. + +An endpoint MAY bundle PATH_CHALLENGE and PATH_RESPONSE frames with other +frames, as appropriate. For instance, an endpoint may pad a packet carrying a +PATH_CHALLENGE for PMTU discovery, or an endpoint may bundle a PATH_RESPONSE +with its own PATH_CHALLENGE. + + +### Initiating Connection Migration {#initiating-migration} + +A client MAY initiate connection migration to a new local address in one of two +ways. + +The client may immediately migrate the connection by sending all packets from +the new local address. Receiving acknowledgments for this data serves as proof +of the server's reachability from the new address. Note that since It is fine for a client to move to a new address and start sending. Remember that this is the client migrating; the server isn't forcing it to migrate. A client doesn't *need* to validate if it is willing to send data right away -- the entire purpose of validation from a client's point of view is to make it possible for a client to check reachability to the server. I would argue that the p2p case is different. Surely a server can lie, but that's not the interesting case at all. The server isn't the one choosing to migrate, so the server lying is not an attack vector that makes any sense. As discussed in the editors' meeting, I've added some text to clarify. > +with its own PATH_CHALLENGE. + + +### Initiating Connection Migration {#initiating-migration} + +A client MAY initiate connection migration to a new local address in one of two +ways. + +The client may immediately migrate the connection by sending all packets from +the new local address. Receiving acknowledgments for this data serves as proof +of the server's reachability from the new address. Note that since +acknowledgments may be received on any path, return reachability on the new path +is not established. To establish return reachability on the new path, a client +MAY concurrently initiate path validation {{migrate-validate}} on the new path. + +Alternatively, the client may probe for server reachability from the new local done > + +### Initiating Connection Migration {#initiating-migration} + +A client MAY initiate connection migration to a new local address in one of two +ways. + +The client may immediately migrate the connection by sending all packets from +the new local address. Receiving acknowledgments for this data serves as proof +of the server's reachability from the new address. Note that since +acknowledgments may be received on any path, return reachability on the new path +is not established. To establish return reachability on the new path, a client +MAY concurrently initiate path validation {{migrate-validate}} on the new path. + +Alternatively, the client may probe for server reachability from the new local +address first using path validation {{migrate-validate}} and migrate the +connection to the new address at a later time. Failure of path validation done > + +A client MAY initiate connection migration to a new local address in one of two +ways. + +The client may immediately migrate the connection by sending all packets from +the new local address. Receiving acknowledgments for this data serves as proof +of the server's reachability from the new address. Note that since +acknowledgments may be received on any path, return reachability on the new path +is not established. To establish return reachability on the new path, a client +MAY concurrently initiate path validation {{migrate-validate}} on the new path. + +Alternatively, the client may probe for server reachability from the new local +address first using path validation {{migrate-validate}} and migrate the +connection to the new address at a later time. Failure of path validation +simply means that the new local address is not usable for this connection and +should not be fatal to the connection when alternative local addresses are done > +is not established. To establish return reachability on the new path, a client +MAY concurrently initiate path validation {{migrate-validate}} on the new path. + +Alternatively, the client may probe for server reachability from the new local +address first using path validation {{migrate-validate}} and migrate the +connection to the new address at a later time. Failure of path validation +simply means that the new local address is not usable for this connection and +should not be fatal to the connection when alternative local addresses are +available. + +A client migrating to a new local address SHOULD use a new connection ID for +packets sent from that address, see {{migration-linkability}} for further +discussion. + +A client MUST NOT initiate connection migration before the handshake is +finished and the client has 1-RTT keys. Right -- this is specifying what a client MUST NOT do. A server should treat a change in 4-tuple as an error. > +should not be fatal to the connection when alternative local addresses are +available. + +A client migrating to a new local address SHOULD use a new connection ID for +packets sent from that address, see {{migration-linkability}} for further +discussion. + +A client MUST NOT initiate connection migration before the handshake is +finished and the client has 1-RTT keys. + + +### Responding to Connection Migration + +A server may receive a packet from a new client address at any time during the +connection after the handshake is complete. If the packet is decryptable, the +client may be either probing from a new address or migrating immediately, as done > -Due to variations in path latency or packet reordering, packets from different -source addresses might be reordered. The packet with the highest packet number -MUST be used to determine which path to use. Endpoints also need to be prepared -to receive packets from an older source address. +A server MAY skip validation of a client address that it considers to be already +valid. Added clarifying text. > -An endpoint MUST validate that its peer can receive packets at the new address -before sending any significant quantity of data to that address, or it risks -being used for denial of service. See {{migrate-validate}} for details. +Note that the server MAY send data to an unvalidated client address, but it MUST +protect against potential attacks as described in {{address-spoofing}} and +{{on-path-spoofing}}. + +If a non-probing packet is received from a new client address but with a packet +number that is not the largest seen thus far, the server must process the packet changed to "server processes" > -An endpoint MUST validate that its peer can receive packets at the new address -before sending any significant quantity of data to that address, or it risks -being used for denial of service. See {{migrate-validate}} for details. +Note that the server MAY send data to an unvalidated client address, but it MUST +protect against potential attacks as described in {{address-spoofing}} and +{{on-path-spoofing}}. + +If a non-probing packet is received from a new client address but with a packet +number that is not the largest seen thus far, the server must process the packet +as usual, but it MUST ignore this client address under the assumption that it is +not the client's most recent address. added some text > -An endpoint MUST validate that its peer can receive packets at the new address -before sending any significant quantity of data to that address, or it risks -being used for denial of service. See {{migrate-validate}} for details. +Note that the server MAY send data to an unvalidated client address, but it MUST +protect against potential attacks as described in {{address-spoofing}} and +{{on-path-spoofing}}. + +If a non-probing packet is received from a new client address but with a packet +number that is not the largest seen thus far, the server must process the packet +as usual, but it MUST ignore this client address under the assumption that it is +not the client's most recent address. + +After verifying a new client address, the server SHOULD update any address +validation tokens ({{address-validation}}) that it has issued to the client if +those are no longer valid based on the changed address. updated text > -An endpoint MUST validate that its peer can receive packets at the new address -before sending any significant quantity of data to that address, or it risks -being used for denial of service. See {{migrate-validate}} for details. +It is possible that the client is spoofing its source address to cause the +server to send excessive amounts of data to an unwilling host. If the server +sends significantly more data than the client, connection migration might be +used to amplify the volume of data that an attacker can generate toward a +victim. + +Thus, on receiving and decrypting a packet from an unvalidated address, the +server MUST immediately validate the client's new address to confirm the +client's possession of the new address. + +Until a client's address is deemed valid, the server MUST limit the rate at +which it sends data to this address. The server MUST NOT send more than 4 * MSS added text and set the rate to min cwnd per rto. > + +An on-path attacker could cause a spurious connection migration by capturing and +forwarding a packet such that it arrives before the legitimate copy of that +packet. Such a packet will appear to be a legitimate connection migration and +the legitimate copy will be dropped as a duplicate. After a spurious migration, +validation of the source address will fail because the entity at the source +address does not have the necessary cryptographic keys to read or respond to the +PATH_CHALLENGE frame that is sent to it, even if it wanted to. + +To protect the connection from failing due to such a spurious migration, the +server MUST revert to using the last validated client address when validation of +a new client address fails. If the server has no state about the last validated +client address, it MUST close the connection silently and discard any further +packets received from the client for this connection. + +We note that receipt of packets with higher packet numbers from the legitimate done > + +After successful validation of the client's new address, the server SHOULD reset +its congestion controller and roundtrip time estimator prior to sending any +further non-probing packets. + +An endpoint MUST NOT restore its send rate unless it is reasonably sure that the +path is the same as the previous path. For instance, a change in the client's +port number is likely indicative of a rebinding in a middlebox and not a +complete change in path. This determination likely depends on heuristics, which +could be imperfect; if the new path capacity is significantly reduced, +ultimately this relies on the congestion controller responding to congestion +signals and reducing send rates appropriately. + +There may be apparent reordering at the receiver when an endpoint sends data and +probes from/to multiple addresses during the migration period, since the two +resulting paths may have different rountrip times. A receiver of packets on the 'd' is redundant anyways, nobody pronounces it :-) ... though fixing english is not in charter, so fixing text > @@ -1735,9 +1829,9 @@ state to draining, but it otherwise has no impact. An endpoint could receive packets from a new source address, indicating a connection migration ({{migration}}), while in the closing period. An endpoint in the closing state MUST strictly limit the number of packets it sends to this -new address as though the address were not validated (see {{migrate-validate}}). -A server in the closing state MAY instead choose to discard packets received -from a new source address. +new address since the address is not validated (see {{migrate-validate}}). A done -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1012#pullrequestreview-100268479 ----==_mimepart_5a9f5006a44a_3bf63fa011b14f2c50723 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

Addressed comments, PTAL.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1477,35 +1481,240 @@ connection if the integrity check fails with a PROTOCOL_VIOLATION error code.
 
 ## Connection Migration {#migration}

SGTM. done.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1477,35 +1481,240 @@ connection if the integrity check fails with a PROTOCOL_VIOLATION error code.
 
 ## Connection Migration {#migration}
 
-QUIC connections are identified by their 64-bit Connection ID.  QUIC's
-consistent connection ID allows connections to survive changes to the client's
-IP and/or port, such as those caused by client or server migrating to a new
-network.  Connection migration allows a client to retain any shared state with a
-connection when they move networks.  This includes state that can be hard to
-recover such as outstanding requests, which might otherwise be lost with no easy
-way to retry them.
+QUIC allows connections to survive changes to endpoint addresses (that is, IP
+address and/or port), such as those caused by a client migrating to a new
+network.  This section describes the protocol for migrating a connection to a
+new client address.
+
+Migrating a connection to a new server address is left for future work. If a
+client receives packets in the connection from a new server address, the client

That's a different sentence... I think it's still useful because if the packets don't belong to this connection, the rest of the sentence doesn't apply.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -way to retry them.
+QUIC allows connections to survive changes to endpoint addresses (that is, IP
+address and/or port), such as those caused by a client migrating to a new
+network.  This section describes the protocol for migrating a connection to a
+new client address.
+
+Migrating a connection to a new server address is left for future work. If a
+client receives packets in the connection from a new server address, the client
+MAY discard these packets.
+
+
+### Path Validation {#migrate-validate}
+
+Path validation is used by a server to confirm the client's ownership of a
+new address and by a client to establish reachability to the server from a new
+local address.

Done (with some mods).

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+Migrating a connection to a new server address is left for future work. If a
+client receives packets in the connection from a new server address, the client
+MAY discard these packets.
+
+
+### Path Validation {#migrate-validate}
+
+Path validation is used by a server to confirm the client's ownership of a
+new address and by a client to establish reachability to the server from a new
+local address.
+
+To start path validation, an endpoint sends a PATH_CHALLENGE frame containing
+a payload that is hard to guess on the path to be validated.
+
+On receiving a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, the peer MUST immediately respond by

Ack delay does not apply, since it's not an ack that's being sent. Though this made me realize that I hadn't said anything about limiting the number of responses, so I've added some text (and moved some text around) limiting the rate at which responses are sent.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+
+### Path Validation {#migrate-validate}
+
+Path validation is used by a server to confirm the client's ownership of a
+new address and by a client to establish reachability to the server from a new
+local address.
+
+To start path validation, an endpoint sends a PATH_CHALLENGE frame containing
+a payload that is hard to guess on the path to be validated.
+
+On receiving a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, the peer MUST immediately respond by
+echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame.
+The PATH_RESPONSE MUST be sent on the same path: from the same local address on
+which the PATH_CHALLENGE was received, to the same remote address from which the
+PATH_CHALLENGE was received.

It was meant to establish reachability in both directions. I've written it down now.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+On receiving a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, the peer MUST immediately respond by
+echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame.
+The PATH_RESPONSE MUST be sent on the same path: from the same local address on
+which the PATH_CHALLENGE was received, to the same remote address from which the
+PATH_CHALLENGE was received.
+
+The new address is not considered valid until a PATH_RESPONSE frame containing
+the same payload is received, even if the packet containing the PATH_CHALLENGE
+frame is acknowledged.
+
+The PATH_RESPONSE frame MUST be received from the same remote address to which
+the corresponding PATH_CHALLENGE was sent. If a PATH_RESPONSE frame is received
+from a different remote address than the one to which the PATH_CHALLENGE was
+sent, path validation is considered to have failed, even if the data matches
+that sent in the PATH_CHALLENGE.

Perhaps this needs to be more explicitly stated, but bi-directional reachability is what is desired when doing connection migration to a new address. The test is incomplete if it only tests one direction. I've also added a sentence up above making this explicit.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+The new address is not considered valid until a PATH_RESPONSE frame containing
+the same payload is received, even if the packet containing the PATH_CHALLENGE
+frame is acknowledged.
+
+The PATH_RESPONSE frame MUST be received from the same remote address to which
+the corresponding PATH_CHALLENGE was sent. If a PATH_RESPONSE frame is received
+from a different remote address than the one to which the PATH_CHALLENGE was
+sent, path validation is considered to have failed, even if the data matches
+that sent in the PATH_CHALLENGE.
+
+The PATH_RESPONSE frame MUST be received on the same local address from which
+the corresponding PATH_CHALLENGE was sent.  If a PATH_RESPONSE frame is received
+on a different local address than the one from which the PATH_CHALLENGE was
+sent, path validation is considered to have failed, even if the data matches
+that sent in the PATH_CHALLENGE.

done

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +sent, path validation is considered to have failed, even if the data matches
+that sent in the PATH_CHALLENGE.
+
+The PATH_RESPONSE frame MUST be received on the same local address from which
+the corresponding PATH_CHALLENGE was sent.  If a PATH_RESPONSE frame is received
+on a different local address than the one from which the PATH_CHALLENGE was
+sent, path validation is considered to have failed, even if the data matches
+that sent in the PATH_CHALLENGE.
+
+Thus, the endpoint considers the path to be valid when a PATH_RESPONSE frame is
+received on the same path with the same payload as the PATH_CHALLENGE frame.
+
+The endpoint MAY send additional PATH_CHALLENGE frames to handle packet loss,
+but is subject to the following limit to avoid excessive network load: an
+endpoint SHOULD NOT send more than one PATH_CHALLENGE frame in 200ms.  This
+limit is approximately equivalent to the network load due to a new connection,

Ok, removed the constant and used Ian's suggested text. There's a related issue of what a peer should do if it receives too many PATH_CHALLENGE frames back-to-back. It's not an attack, but the peer's behavior needs to be prescribed. I've added some text to allow limiting the rate at which PATH_RESPONSES are sent as well. I'm sure this can be made better, but I think what is there now is reasonable I think. I am happy to open an issue to make it better if anyone feels necessary.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+The endpoint MAY send additional PATH_CHALLENGE frames to handle packet loss,
+but is subject to the following limit to avoid excessive network load: an
+endpoint SHOULD NOT send more than one PATH_CHALLENGE frame in 200ms.  This
+limit is approximately equivalent to the network load due to a new connection,
+and is based on the initial Handshake Timeout defined in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.
+
+The endpoint MUST use fresh random data in every PATH_CHALLENGE frame so that it
+can associate the peer's response with the causative PATH_CHALLENGE.
+
+The endpoint SHOULD abandon path validation after sending some number of
+PATH_CHALLENGE frames or after some time has passed.  When setting this timer,
+implementations are cautioned that the new path could have a longer roundtrip
+time than the original. The endpoint may receive packets containing other frames
+during this period, but a PATH_RESPONSE frame with appropriate data is required
+for the path validation to succeed.

Added text about keeping load the same as connection establishment, and added subsections (and restructured a bit).

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +possession of its address after a period of quiescence.
+
+An endpoint MAY bundle PATH_CHALLENGE and PATH_RESPONSE frames with other
+frames, as appropriate.  For instance, an endpoint may pad a packet carrying a
+PATH_CHALLENGE for PMTU discovery, or an endpoint may bundle a PATH_RESPONSE
+with its own PATH_CHALLENGE.
+
+
+### Initiating Connection Migration {#initiating-migration}
+
+A client MAY initiate connection migration to a new local address in one of two
+ways.
+
+The client may immediately migrate the connection by sending all packets from
+the new local address.  Receiving acknowledgments for this data serves as proof
+of the server's reachability from the new address.  Note that since

It is fine for a client to move to a new address and start sending. Remember that this is the client migrating; the server isn't forcing it to migrate. A client doesn't need to validate if it is willing to send data right away -- the entire purpose of validation from a client's point of view is to make it possible for a client to check reachability to the server. I would argue that the p2p case is different. Surely a server can lie, but that's not the interesting case at all. The server isn't the one choosing to migrate, so the server lying is not an attack vector that makes any sense.

As discussed in the editors' meeting, I've added some text to clarify.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +with its own PATH_CHALLENGE.
+
+
+### Initiating Connection Migration {#initiating-migration}
+
+A client MAY initiate connection migration to a new local address in one of two
+ways.
+
+The client may immediately migrate the connection by sending all packets from
+the new local address.  Receiving acknowledgments for this data serves as proof
+of the server's reachability from the new address.  Note that since
+acknowledgments may be received on any path, return reachability on the new path
+is not established. To establish return reachability on the new path, a client
+MAY concurrently initiate path validation {{migrate-validate}} on the new path.
+
+Alternatively, the client may probe for server reachability from the new local

done

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+### Initiating Connection Migration {#initiating-migration}
+
+A client MAY initiate connection migration to a new local address in one of two
+ways.
+
+The client may immediately migrate the connection by sending all packets from
+the new local address.  Receiving acknowledgments for this data serves as proof
+of the server's reachability from the new address.  Note that since
+acknowledgments may be received on any path, return reachability on the new path
+is not established. To establish return reachability on the new path, a client
+MAY concurrently initiate path validation {{migrate-validate}} on the new path.
+
+Alternatively, the client may probe for server reachability from the new local
+address first using path validation {{migrate-validate}} and migrate the
+connection to the new address at a later time.  Failure of path validation

done

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+A client MAY initiate connection migration to a new local address in one of two
+ways.
+
+The client may immediately migrate the connection by sending all packets from
+the new local address.  Receiving acknowledgments for this data serves as proof
+of the server's reachability from the new address.  Note that since
+acknowledgments may be received on any path, return reachability on the new path
+is not established. To establish return reachability on the new path, a client
+MAY concurrently initiate path validation {{migrate-validate}} on the new path.
+
+Alternatively, the client may probe for server reachability from the new local
+address first using path validation {{migrate-validate}} and migrate the
+connection to the new address at a later time.  Failure of path validation
+simply means that the new local address is not usable for this connection and
+should not be fatal to the connection when alternative local addresses are

done

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +is not established. To establish return reachability on the new path, a client
+MAY concurrently initiate path validation {{migrate-validate}} on the new path.
+
+Alternatively, the client may probe for server reachability from the new local
+address first using path validation {{migrate-validate}} and migrate the
+connection to the new address at a later time.  Failure of path validation
+simply means that the new local address is not usable for this connection and
+should not be fatal to the connection when alternative local addresses are
+available.
+
+A client migrating to a new local address SHOULD use a new connection ID for
+packets sent from that address, see {{migration-linkability}} for further
+discussion.
+
+A client MUST NOT initiate connection migration before the handshake is
+finished and the client has 1-RTT keys.

Right -- this is specifying what a client MUST NOT do. A server should treat a change in 4-tuple as an error.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +should not be fatal to the connection when alternative local addresses are
+available.
+
+A client migrating to a new local address SHOULD use a new connection ID for
+packets sent from that address, see {{migration-linkability}} for further
+discussion.
+
+A client MUST NOT initiate connection migration before the handshake is
+finished and the client has 1-RTT keys.
+
+
+### Responding to Connection Migration
+
+A server may receive a packet from a new client address at any time during the
+connection after the handshake is complete. If the packet is decryptable, the
+client may be either probing from a new address or migrating immediately, as

done

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-Due to variations in path latency or packet reordering, packets from different
-source addresses might be reordered.  The packet with the highest packet number
-MUST be used to determine which path to use.  Endpoints also need to be prepared
-to receive packets from an older source address.
+A server MAY skip validation of a client address that it considers to be already
+valid.

Added clarifying text.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-An endpoint MUST validate that its peer can receive packets at the new address
-before sending any significant quantity of data to that address, or it risks
-being used for denial of service.  See {{migrate-validate}} for details.
+Note that the server MAY send data to an unvalidated client address, but it MUST
+protect against potential attacks as described in {{address-spoofing}} and
+{{on-path-spoofing}}.
+
+If a non-probing packet is received from a new client address but with a packet
+number that is not the largest seen thus far, the server must process the packet

changed to "server processes"

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-An endpoint MUST validate that its peer can receive packets at the new address
-before sending any significant quantity of data to that address, or it risks
-being used for denial of service.  See {{migrate-validate}} for details.
+Note that the server MAY send data to an unvalidated client address, but it MUST
+protect against potential attacks as described in {{address-spoofing}} and
+{{on-path-spoofing}}.
+
+If a non-probing packet is received from a new client address but with a packet
+number that is not the largest seen thus far, the server must process the packet
+as usual, but it MUST ignore this client address under the assumption that it is
+not the client's most recent address.

added some text

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-An endpoint MUST validate that its peer can receive packets at the new address
-before sending any significant quantity of data to that address, or it risks
-being used for denial of service.  See {{migrate-validate}} for details.
+Note that the server MAY send data to an unvalidated client address, but it MUST
+protect against potential attacks as described in {{address-spoofing}} and
+{{on-path-spoofing}}.
+
+If a non-probing packet is received from a new client address but with a packet
+number that is not the largest seen thus far, the server must process the packet
+as usual, but it MUST ignore this client address under the assumption that it is
+not the client's most recent address.
+
+After verifying a new client address, the server SHOULD update any address
+validation tokens ({{address-validation}}) that it has issued to the client if
+those are no longer valid based on the changed address.

updated text

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-An endpoint MUST validate that its peer can receive packets at the new address
-before sending any significant quantity of data to that address, or it risks
-being used for denial of service.  See {{migrate-validate}} for details.
+It is possible that the client is spoofing its source address to cause the
+server to send excessive amounts of data to an unwilling host.  If the server
+sends significantly more data than the client, connection migration might be
+used to amplify the volume of data that an attacker can generate toward a
+victim.
+
+Thus, on receiving and decrypting a packet from an unvalidated address, the
+server MUST immediately validate the client's new address to confirm the
+client's possession of the new address.
+
+Until a client's address is deemed valid, the server MUST limit the rate at
+which it sends data to this address.  The server MUST NOT send more than 4 * MSS

added text and set the rate to min cwnd per rto.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+An on-path attacker could cause a spurious connection migration by capturing and
+forwarding a packet such that it arrives before the legitimate copy of that
+packet.  Such a packet will appear to be a legitimate connection migration and
+the legitimate copy will be dropped as a duplicate. After a spurious migration,
+validation of the source address will fail because the entity at the source
+address does not have the necessary cryptographic keys to read or respond to the
+PATH_CHALLENGE frame that is sent to it, even if it wanted to.
+
+To protect the connection from failing due to such a spurious migration, the
+server MUST revert to using the last validated client address when validation of
+a new client address fails. If the server has no state about the last validated
+client address, it MUST close the connection silently and discard any further
+packets received from the client for this connection.
+
+We note that receipt of packets with higher packet numbers from the legitimate

done

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+After successful validation of the client's new address, the server SHOULD reset
+its congestion controller and roundtrip time estimator prior to sending any
+further non-probing packets.
+
+An endpoint MUST NOT restore its send rate unless it is reasonably sure that the
+path is the same as the previous path.  For instance, a change in the client's
+port number is likely indicative of a rebinding in a middlebox and not a
+complete change in path.  This determination likely depends on heuristics, which
+could be imperfect; if the new path capacity is significantly reduced,
+ultimately this relies on the congestion controller responding to congestion
+signals and reducing send rates appropriately.
+
+There may be apparent reordering at the receiver when an endpoint sends data and
+probes from/to multiple addresses during the migration period, since the two
+resulting paths may have different rountrip times.  A receiver of packets on

the 'd' is redundant anyways, nobody pronounces it :-)
... though fixing english is not in charter, so fixing text

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1735,9 +1829,9 @@ state to draining, but it otherwise has no impact.
 An endpoint could receive packets from a new source address, indicating a
 connection migration ({{migration}}), while in the closing period. An endpoint
 in the closing state MUST strictly limit the number of packets it sends to this
-new address as though the address were not validated (see {{migrate-validate}}).
-A server in the closing state MAY instead choose to discard packets received
-from a new source address.
+new address since the address is not validated (see {{migrate-validate}}). A

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----==_mimepart_5a9fd1343f60c_6ad82ab3e0b56ecc210343-- From nobody Wed Mar 7 06:52:53 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D62671276AF for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2018 06:52:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XSaaXfL8op1e for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2018 06:52:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from o11.sgmail.github.com (o11.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CDF36124207 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2018 06:52:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=Iwi+XFrixf3QfUz9FV8SscoXCIQ=; b=ZM4r01mgLQtwOi5q uwk7e2cv+B+TyWCkb1yGI8AWK/VzWJN/AOsvJ57WwOY99RVD95Nb0VlTEWvUY04f E6B/6P1pCTwtvxDQNg29KiCO37bhBCZQIgrfqL9uGFso6/4xA1cWQcPA8NDdOI/4 ACu6DqlPPJjeGf2/MmruIGyfMwo= Received: by filter0825p1mdw1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0825p1mdw1-22190-5A9FFCC0-1F 2018-03-07 14:52:48.638272525 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0005p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id feGktxjUSjuiovb_BaCkyw for ; Wed, 07 Mar 2018 14:52:48.563 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2018 14:52:48 +0000 (UTC) From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Symmetric connection IDs (#1151) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a9ffa9bda1e9_2fa92ae67f436ecc6625d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak3KrDrmsSZqsEwxi43AAqTyECjhyjX8Z+qKM0 qtiGXAap3eMURo9NK6HtzNd45RPm5cXAdMSUUUWd7ga4HoSHVTfCt/KvHDc6KolTAGFsxVdwBT4BLO kDMhoP0vdCp8pepc8CrhOucy0aNCxwT8M1cyRNImExTFPKumYdBAYMyuiLs581VIMy/wj3YK/qFpvF 0= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2018 14:52:52 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a9ffa9bda1e9_2fa92ae67f436ecc6625d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ianswett commented on this pull request. A few more small suggestions. > @@ -1502,13 +1534,13 @@ connection if the integrity check fails with a PROTOCOL_VIOLATION error code. ## Connection Migration {#migration} -QUIC connections are identified by their 64-bit Connection ID. QUIC's -consistent connection ID allows connections to survive changes to the client's -IP and/or port, such as those caused by client or server migrating to a new -network. Connection migration allows a client to retain any shared state with a -connection when they move networks. This includes state that can be hard to -recover such as outstanding requests, which might otherwise be lost with no easy -way to retry them. +A QUIC connection can be identified using the Destination Connection ID included +in packets. QUIC's consistent connection ID allows connections to survive +changes to the client's IP and/or port, such as those caused by client or server I realize this is text Jana added, but shouldn't asymmetric connection IDs allow a change to either a client or server's IP and/or port? > -: Octets 1 through 8 contain the connection ID. {{connection-id}} describes the - use of this field in more detail. +Destination Connection ID: + +: The Destination Connection ID field starts at octet 2 and is either 0 octets + in length or between 4 and 18 octets. {{connection-id}} describes the use of + this field in more detail. + +Source Connection ID: + +: The Source Connection ID field starts at octet 2 and is either 0 octets in They can't both start at octet 2, unless the destination Connection ID is 0 length. > +the recipient of the packet and is used to provide consistent routing; the +Source Connection ID is used to set the Destination Connection ID used by a +peer. + +During the handshake, packets with the long header are used to establish the +Destination Connection ID that each endpoint uses. Each endpoint uses the +Source Connection ID field to specify the connection ID that is used in the +Destination Connection ID field of packets being sent to them. Upon receiving a +packet, each endpoint sets the Destination Connection ID it sends to match the +value of the Source Connection ID that they receive. + +During the handshake, an endpoint might receive multiple packets with the long +header, and thus be given multiple opportunities to update the Destination +Connection ID it sends. A client MUST only change the value it sends in the +Destination Connection ID field in response to the first packet of each type +(Retry, or Handshake) that it receives; a server MUST only change its value I think an algorithm based on packet number might be more robust than specifying the first packet of each type? Largest packet number wins? Also, I would say the server MUST set it's value based on an Initial packet. Given there was no connection before, I wouldn't call it a change of connection ID. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1151#pullrequestreview-101506040 ----==_mimepart_5a9ffa9bda1e9_2fa92ae67f436ecc6625d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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A few more small suggestions.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1502,13 +1534,13 @@ connection if the integrity check fails with a PROTOCOL_VIOLATION error code.
 
 ## Connection Migration {#migration}
 
-QUIC connections are identified by their 64-bit Connection ID.  QUIC's
-consistent connection ID allows connections to survive changes to the client's
-IP and/or port, such as those caused by client or server migrating to a new
-network.  Connection migration allows a client to retain any shared state with a
-connection when they move networks.  This includes state that can be hard to
-recover such as outstanding requests, which might otherwise be lost with no easy
-way to retry them.
+A QUIC connection can be identified using the Destination Connection ID included
+in packets.  QUIC's consistent connection ID allows connections to survive
+changes to the client's IP and/or port, such as those caused by client or server

I realize this is text Jana added, but shouldn't asymmetric connection IDs allow a change to either a client or server's IP and/or port?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-: Octets 1 through 8 contain the connection ID. {{connection-id}} describes the
-  use of this field in more detail.
+Destination Connection ID:
+
+: The Destination Connection ID field starts at octet 2 and is either 0 octets
+  in length or between 4 and 18 octets. {{connection-id}} describes the use of
+  this field in more detail.
+
+Source Connection ID:
+
+: The Source Connection ID field starts at octet 2 and is either 0 octets in

They can't both start at octet 2, unless the destination Connection ID is 0 length.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +the recipient of the packet and is used to provide consistent routing; the
+Source Connection ID is used to set the Destination Connection ID used by a
+peer.
+
+During the handshake, packets with the long header are used to establish the
+Destination Connection ID that each endpoint uses.  Each endpoint uses the
+Source Connection ID field to specify the connection ID that is used in the
+Destination Connection ID field of packets being sent to them.  Upon receiving a
+packet, each endpoint sets the Destination Connection ID it sends to match the
+value of the Source Connection ID that they receive.
+
+During the handshake, an endpoint might receive multiple packets with the long
+header, and thus be given multiple opportunities to update the Destination
+Connection ID it sends.  A client MUST only change the value it sends in the
+Destination Connection ID field in response to the first packet of each type
+(Retry, or Handshake) that it receives; a server MUST only change its value

I think an algorithm based on packet number might be more robust than specifying the first packet of each type? Largest packet number wins?

Also, I would say the server MUST set it's value based on an Initial packet. Given there was no connection before, I wouldn't call it a change of connection ID.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+On receiving a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, the peer MUST immediately respond by
+echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame.
+The PATH_RESPONSE MUST be sent on the same path: from the same local address on
+which the PATH_CHALLENGE was received, to the same remote address from which the
+PATH_CHALLENGE was received.
+
+The new address is not considered valid until a PATH_RESPONSE frame containing
+the same payload is received, even if the packet containing the PATH_CHALLENGE
+frame is acknowledged.
+
+The PATH_RESPONSE frame MUST be received from the same remote address to which
+the corresponding PATH_CHALLENGE was sent. If a PATH_RESPONSE frame is received
+from a different remote address than the one to which the PATH_CHALLENGE was
+sent, path validation is considered to have failed, even if the data matches
+that sent in the PATH_CHALLENGE.

Worth noting that one-way reachability might be a thing once we get to multipath. If client->server has two valid paths, but server->client only one, so be it. But I don't object to saying path validation has to test both directions.

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Looking good. Most of these are strictly wordsmithing. > @@ -1477,35 +1481,240 @@ connection if the integrity check fails with a PROTOCOL_VIOLATION error code. ## Connection Migration {#migration} ...except that it isn't. The title of the section is still "Connection Migration." > @@ -1477,35 +1481,240 @@ connection if the integrity check fails with a PROTOCOL_VIOLATION error code. ## Connection Migration {#migration} -QUIC connections are identified by their 64-bit Connection ID. QUIC's -consistent connection ID allows connections to survive changes to the client's -IP and/or port, such as those caused by client or server migrating to a new -network. Connection migration allows a client to retain any shared state with a -connection when they move networks. This includes state that can be hard to -recover such as outstanding requests, which might otherwise be lost with no easy -way to retry them. +QUIC allows connections to survive changes to endpoint addresses (that is, IP +address and/or port), such as those caused by a client migrating to a new +network. This section describes the protocol for migrating a connection to a +new client address. + +Migrating a connection to a new server address is left for future work. If a +client receives packets in the connection from a new server address, the client I'm in favor of Ian's change, because if packets don't map to a connection they'll be discarded anyway. The extra words just sound awkward. However, it's not technically incorrect, so this is purely wordsmithing. > + +An endpoint MAY bundle PATH_CHALLENGE and PATH_RESPONSE frames with other +frames, as appropriate. For instance, an endpoint may pad a packet carrying a +PATH_CHALLENGE for PMTU discovery, or an endpoint may bundle a PATH_RESPONSE +with its own PATH_CHALLENGE. + + +#### Initiation + +To initiate path validation, an endpoint sends a PATH_CHALLENGE frame containing +a payload that is hard to guess on the path to be validated. + +An endpoint MAY send additional PATH_CHALLENGE frames to handle packet loss, +but is subject to the following limit to avoid excessive network load: an +endpoint SHOULD NOT send a PATH_CHALLENGE more frequently than it would a client +INITIAL, ensuring that connection migration is no more load on a new path than Packet names are title-cased, not all-caps. Also, I'd drop the colon lead-up. `...but to avoid excessive network load, an endpoint SHOULD NOT... an Initial packet. This ensures that....` > + +An endpoint MAY send additional PATH_CHALLENGE frames to handle packet loss, +but is subject to the following limit to avoid excessive network load: an +endpoint SHOULD NOT send a PATH_CHALLENGE more frequently than it would a client +INITIAL, ensuring that connection migration is no more load on a new path than +establishing a new connection. + +The endpoint MUST use fresh random data in every PATH_CHALLENGE frame so that it +can associate the peer's response with the causative PATH_CHALLENGE. + + +#### Response + +On receiving a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, an endpoint MUST respond immediately by +echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame, +with the following stipulation. Since a PATH_CHALLENGE may be sent from a "might be" - there's no permission involved here. > +can associate the peer's response with the causative PATH_CHALLENGE. + + +#### Response + +On receiving a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, an endpoint MUST respond immediately by +echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame, +with the following stipulation. Since a PATH_CHALLENGE may be sent from a +spoofed address, an endpoint MAY limit the rate at which it sends PATH_RESPONSE +frames and MAY silently discard PATH_CHALLENGE frames that would cause it to +respond at a higher rate. + +Path validation tests both directions of a path. To ensure reachability in both +directions, the PATH_RESPONSE MUST be sent on the same path as the triggering +PATH_CHALLENGE: from the same local address on which the PATH_CHALLENGE was +received, to the same remote address from which the PATH_CHALLENGE was received. and port, I presume? > +The endpoint SHOULD abandon path validation after sending some number of +PATH_CHALLENGE frames or after some time has passed. When setting this timer, +implementations are cautioned that the new path could have a longer round-trip +time than the original. Again, to avoid excessive network load, an endpoint +SHOULD NOT send more PATH_CHALLENGE frames than it would a client INITIAL, +ensuring that connection migration is no more load on a new path than +establishing a new connection. + +The endpoint may receive packets containing other frames during this period, but +a PATH_RESPONSE frame with appropriate data is required for the path validation +to succeed. + + +### Initiating Connection Migration {#initiating-migration} + +A client MAY initiate connection migration to a new local address in one of two This "MAY" seems superfluous, particularly since the first way also has a MAY. I'd either lower-case it, "can", or "A client initiates...." Also, I don't know that I'd frame these as two "ways" of migrating. Ultimately, the client migrates by sending data from the new address/port. A client MAY probe for reachability first, if it has the opportunity. > + +### Handling Address Spoofing by an On-path Attacker {#on-path-spoofing} + +An on-path attacker could cause a spurious connection migration by capturing and +forwarding a packet such that it arrives before the legitimate copy of that +packet. Such a packet will appear to be a legitimate connection migration and +the legitimate copy will be dropped as a duplicate. After a spurious migration, +validation of the source address will fail because the entity at the source +address does not have the necessary cryptographic keys to read or respond to the +PATH_CHALLENGE frame that is sent to it, even if it wanted to. + +To protect the connection from failing due to such a spurious migration, the +server MUST revert to using the last validated client address when validation of +a new client address fails. If the server has no state about the last validated +client address, it MUST close the connection silently and discard any further +packets received from the client for this connection. How does this tie in to the closure/draining states described elsewhere? Does the server enter draining? Can it send Stateless Reset? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1012#pullrequestreview-101998058 ----==_mimepart_5aa0167343632_30893f9add2f8f34117785 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@MikeBishop approved this pull request.

Looking good. Most of these are strictly wordsmithing.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1477,35 +1481,240 @@ connection if the integrity check fails with a PROTOCOL_VIOLATION error code.
 
 ## Connection Migration {#migration}

...except that it isn't. The title of the section is still "Connection Migration."

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1477,35 +1481,240 @@ connection if the integrity check fails with a PROTOCOL_VIOLATION error code.
 
 ## Connection Migration {#migration}
 
-QUIC connections are identified by their 64-bit Connection ID.  QUIC's
-consistent connection ID allows connections to survive changes to the client's
-IP and/or port, such as those caused by client or server migrating to a new
-network.  Connection migration allows a client to retain any shared state with a
-connection when they move networks.  This includes state that can be hard to
-recover such as outstanding requests, which might otherwise be lost with no easy
-way to retry them.
+QUIC allows connections to survive changes to endpoint addresses (that is, IP
+address and/or port), such as those caused by a client migrating to a new
+network.  This section describes the protocol for migrating a connection to a
+new client address.
+
+Migrating a connection to a new server address is left for future work. If a
+client receives packets in the connection from a new server address, the client

I'm in favor of Ian's change, because if packets don't map to a connection they'll be discarded anyway. The extra words just sound awkward. However, it's not technically incorrect, so this is purely wordsmithing.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+An endpoint MAY bundle PATH_CHALLENGE and PATH_RESPONSE frames with other
+frames, as appropriate.  For instance, an endpoint may pad a packet carrying a
+PATH_CHALLENGE for PMTU discovery, or an endpoint may bundle a PATH_RESPONSE
+with its own PATH_CHALLENGE.
+
+
+#### Initiation
+
+To initiate path validation, an endpoint sends a PATH_CHALLENGE frame containing
+a payload that is hard to guess on the path to be validated.
+
+An endpoint MAY send additional PATH_CHALLENGE frames to handle packet loss,
+but is subject to the following limit to avoid excessive network load: an
+endpoint SHOULD NOT send a PATH_CHALLENGE more frequently than it would a client
+INITIAL, ensuring that connection migration is no more load on a new path than

Packet names are title-cased, not all-caps. Also, I'd drop the colon lead-up.

...but to avoid excessive network load, an endpoint SHOULD NOT... an Initial packet. This ensures that....

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+An endpoint MAY send additional PATH_CHALLENGE frames to handle packet loss,
+but is subject to the following limit to avoid excessive network load: an
+endpoint SHOULD NOT send a PATH_CHALLENGE more frequently than it would a client
+INITIAL, ensuring that connection migration is no more load on a new path than
+establishing a new connection.
+
+The endpoint MUST use fresh random data in every PATH_CHALLENGE frame so that it
+can associate the peer's response with the causative PATH_CHALLENGE.
+
+
+#### Response
+
+On receiving a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, an endpoint MUST respond immediately by
+echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame,
+with the following stipulation.  Since a PATH_CHALLENGE may be sent from a

"might be" - there's no permission involved here.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +can associate the peer's response with the causative PATH_CHALLENGE.
+
+
+#### Response
+
+On receiving a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, an endpoint MUST respond immediately by
+echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame,
+with the following stipulation.  Since a PATH_CHALLENGE may be sent from a
+spoofed address, an endpoint MAY limit the rate at which it sends PATH_RESPONSE
+frames and MAY silently discard PATH_CHALLENGE frames that would cause it to
+respond at a higher rate.
+
+Path validation tests both directions of a path.  To ensure reachability in both
+directions, the PATH_RESPONSE MUST be sent on the same path as the triggering
+PATH_CHALLENGE: from the same local address on which the PATH_CHALLENGE was
+received, to the same remote address from which the PATH_CHALLENGE was received.

and port, I presume?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +The endpoint SHOULD abandon path validation after sending some number of
+PATH_CHALLENGE frames or after some time has passed.  When setting this timer,
+implementations are cautioned that the new path could have a longer round-trip
+time than the original.  Again, to avoid excessive network load, an endpoint
+SHOULD NOT send more PATH_CHALLENGE frames than it would a client INITIAL,
+ensuring that connection migration is no more load on a new path than
+establishing a new connection.
+
+The endpoint may receive packets containing other frames during this period, but
+a PATH_RESPONSE frame with appropriate data is required for the path validation
+to succeed.
+
+
+### Initiating Connection Migration {#initiating-migration}
+
+A client MAY initiate connection migration to a new local address in one of two

This "MAY" seems superfluous, particularly since the first way also has a MAY. I'd either lower-case it, "can", or "A client initiates...." Also, I don't know that I'd frame these as two "ways" of migrating. Ultimately, the client migrates by sending data from the new address/port. A client MAY probe for reachability first, if it has the opportunity.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+### Handling Address Spoofing by an On-path Attacker {#on-path-spoofing}
+
+An on-path attacker could cause a spurious connection migration by capturing and
+forwarding a packet such that it arrives before the legitimate copy of that
+packet.  Such a packet will appear to be a legitimate connection migration and
+the legitimate copy will be dropped as a duplicate. After a spurious migration,
+validation of the source address will fail because the entity at the source
+address does not have the necessary cryptographic keys to read or respond to the
+PATH_CHALLENGE frame that is sent to it, even if it wanted to.
+
+To protect the connection from failing due to such a spurious migration, the
+server MUST revert to using the last validated client address when validation of
+a new client address fails. If the server has no state about the last validated
+client address, it MUST close the connection silently and discard any further
+packets received from the client for this connection.

How does this tie in to the closure/draining states described elsewhere? Does the server enter draining? Can it send Stateless Reset?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1502,13 +1534,13 @@ connection if the integrity check fails with a PROTOCOL_VIOLATION error code.
 
 ## Connection Migration {#migration}
 
-QUIC connections are identified by their 64-bit Connection ID.  QUIC's
-consistent connection ID allows connections to survive changes to the client's
-IP and/or port, such as those caused by client or server migrating to a new
-network.  Connection migration allows a client to retain any shared state with a
-connection when they move networks.  This includes state that can be hard to
-recover such as outstanding requests, which might otherwise be lost with no easy
-way to retry them.
+A QUIC connection can be identified using the Destination Connection ID included
+in packets.  QUIC's consistent connection ID allows connections to survive
+changes to the client's IP and/or port, such as those caused by client or server

It might in the future, but server connection migration isn't defined. Certainly they pave the way, though.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1502,13 +1534,13 @@ connection if the integrity check fails with a PROTOCOL_VIOLATION error code.
 
 ## Connection Migration {#migration}
 
-QUIC connections are identified by their 64-bit Connection ID.  QUIC's
-consistent connection ID allows connections to survive changes to the client's
-IP and/or port, such as those caused by client or server migrating to a new
-network.  Connection migration allows a client to retain any shared state with a
-connection when they move networks.  This includes state that can be hard to
-recover such as outstanding requests, which might otherwise be lost with no easy
-way to retry them.
+A QUIC connection can be identified using the Destination Connection ID included
+in packets.  QUIC's consistent connection ID allows connections to survive
+changes to the client's IP and/or port, such as those caused by client or server

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filename=3D"f.txt" content-security-policy: default-src * data: blob:;script-src *.facebook.co= m *.fbcdn.net *.facebook.net *.google-analytics.com *.virtualearth.net *.= google.com 127.0.0.1:* *.spotilocal.com:* 'unsafe-inline' 'unsafe-eval' = fbstatic-a.akamaihd.net fbcdn-static-b-a.akamaihd.net *.atlassolutions.com= blob: data: 'self';style-src data: blob: 'unsafe-inline' *;connect-src = *.facebook.com facebook.com *.fbcdn.net *.facebook.net *.spotilocal.com:* = *.akamaihd.net wss://*.facebook.com:* https://fb.scanandcleanlocal.com:* = *.atlassolutions.com attachment.fbsbx.com ws://localhost:* blob: *.cdni= nstagram.com 'self' chrome-extension://boadgeojelhgndaghljhdicfkmllpafd c= hrome-extension://dliochdbjfkdbacpmhlcpmleaejidimm; content-security-policy: default-src * data: blob:;script-src *.facebook.co= m *.fbcdn.net *.facebook.net *.google-analytics.com *.virtualearth.net *.= google.com 127.0.0.1:* *.spotilocal.com:* 'unsafe-inline' 'unsafe-eval' = fbstatic-a.akamaihd.net fbcdn-static-b-a.akamaihd.net *.atlassolutions.com= blob: data: 'self';style-src data: blob: 'unsafe-inline' *;connect-src = *.facebook.com facebook.com *.fbcdn.net *.facebook.net *.spotilocal.com:* = *.akamaihd.net wss://*.facebook.com:* https://fb.scanandcleanlocal.com:* = *.atlassolutions.com attachment.fbsbx.com ws://localhost:* blob: *.cdni= nstagram.com 'self'; access-control-allow-methods: options access-control-allow-methods: get access-control-allow-methods: get, post, options access-control-expose-headers: content-length access-control-expose-headers: x-fb-debug, x-loader-length access-control-expose-headers: x-frontend x-amz-cf-id x-fb-debug access-control-allow-headers: content-type x-served-by link: ; rel=3Dpreconnect; crossorigin content-type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded content-type: text/plain;charset=3Dutf-8 content-type: text/plain content-type: application/json content-type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded; charset=3Dutf-8 content-length: 0 x-requested-with: xmlhttprequest cache-control: max-age=3D0 cache-control: no-cache intervention: ; le= vel=3D"warning" x-youtube-client-name: 56 x-youtube-client-version: 20180131 x-youtube-client-version: 20180208 x-youtube-client-version: 20180206 range: bytes=3D0- access-control-request-method: post access-control-request-method: get access-control-request-headers: content-type if-modified-since pragma: no-cache purpose: prefetch if-none-match if-range: =C2=A0 pe-token: =C2=A0 x-goog-visitor-id upgrade: websocket sec-websocket-version: 13 sec-websocket-extensions: permessage-deflate; client_max_window_bits sec-websocket-key dpr: 1 viewport-width: 1024 x-newrelic-id x-sumo-auth authorization x-csrf-token client-id: jzkbprff40iqj646a697cyrvl0zt2m6 client-id: b31o4btkqth5bzbvr9ub2ovr79umhh service-worker: script ``` Obviously, there are some notable caveats, given the source of the data: - This is entirely *successful* requests, IIUC, so headers that occur on f= ailures aren't represented - This is Chrome, so browser-specific headers will be biased - This is a point-in-time and some of these we won't wish to memorialize (e= .g. the Alt-Svc entries that include Google versions). In particular, I dr= ew on runs from a single day for this analysis. - Pseudo-headers aren't visible in this archive (which is why the prevalenc= e of a "Status: 200" header surprises me) Still, I find it a useful initial result. Happy to share the queries that = led to this, if anyone wants to replicate. I used a modified version of th= e query in the linked thread to summarize frequencies into my own (smaller)= table, then ran queries against that smaller table to produce this list. --=20 You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/904#issuecomment-371244272= ----==_mimepart_5aa0352e66a7f_186b2ae4379caec82836e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I did some queries over the HTTP Archive data. My basic algorithm was t= o include any values that made up more than 10% of instances of that header= , or include a name only if no value made up more than 10% of occurrences. = I used different cutoffs for server and client based on the point at which= it seemed to be going into the weeds, but that's entirely a judgement call= .

That algorithm came out with this as the resulting static table:

user-agent: mozilla/5.0 (x11; linux x86_64)   applewebkit/537.36=
 (khtml, like gecko) chrome/64.0.3282.140 safari/537.36   ptst/180204.000209
user-agent: mozilla/5.0 (x11; linux x86_64) applewebkit/537.36 (khtml, like=
 gecko)   chrome/64.0.3282.140 safari/537.36 ptst/180202.170209
accept-encoding: gzip, deflate, br
accept-encoding: gzip, deflate
accept-language: en-us,en;q=3D0.9
accept: image/webp,image/apng,image/*,*/*;q=3D0.8
accept: */*
date: =C2=A0
referer: =C2=A0
content-type: image/jpeg
content-type: image/png
content-type: image/gif
server: nginx
server: apache
content-length
cache-control
last-modified
host: =C2=A0
connection: keep-alive
expires: =C2=A0
accept-ranges: bytes
connection: keep-alive
cookie: =C2=A0
etag: =C2=A0
status: 200
vary: accept-encoding
content-encoding: gzip
content-encoding: br
set-cookie
access-control-allow-origin: *
x-content-type-options: nosniff
x-xss-protection: 1; mode=3Dblock
x-xss-protection: 0
p3p: policyref=3D"https://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/pagead/gcn_p3p_.xml",=
   cp=3D"cura adma deva taio psao psdo our ind uni pur int dem sta pre com =
  nav otc noi dsp cor"
pragma: no-cache
pragma: public
age: =C2=A0
timing-allow-origin: *
keep-alive
x-cache: hit
x-cache: hit from cloudfront
alt-svc: hq=3D":443"; ma=3D2592000; quic=3D51303431; quic=3D51303339;   qui=
c=3D51303338; quic=3D51303337; quic=3D51303335,quic=3D":443";   ma=3D259200=
0; v=3D"41,39,38,37,35"
alt-svc: hq=3D"googleads.g.doubleclick.net:443"; ma=3D2592000;   quic=3D513=
03431; quic=3D51303339; quic=3D51303338; quic=3D51303337;   quic=3D51303335=
,quic=3D"googleads.g.doubleclick.net:443"; ma=3D2592000;   v=3D"41,39,38,37=
,35",hq=3D":443"; ma=3D2592000; quic=3D51303431;   quic=3D51303339; quic=3D=
51303338; quic=3D51303337;   quic=3D51303335,quic=3D":443"; ma=3D2592000; v=
=3D"41,39,38,37,35"
x-powered-by: asp.net
x-powered-by: plesklin
location: =C2=A0
via: 1.1 varnish
strict-transport-security: max-age=3D31536000
strict-transport-security: max-age=3D10886400; includesubdomains; preload
origin: https://www.facebook.com
cf-ray: =C2=A0
transfer-encoding: chunked
x-frame-options: sameorigin
x-frame-options: deny
cf-cache-status: hit
access-control-allow-credentials: TRUE
upgrade-insecure-requests: 1
expect-ct: max-age=3D604800,   report-uri=3D"https://report-uri.cloudflare.=
com/cdn-cgi/beacon/expect-ct"
expect-ct: max-age=3D10, report-uri=3D"http://reports.fb.com/expectct/"
content-disposition: attachment; filename=3D"f.txt"
content-security-policy: default-src * data: blob:;script-src *.facebook.co=
m *.fbcdn.net   *.facebook.net *.google-analytics.com *.virtualearth.net *.=
google.com   127.0.0.1:* *.spotilocal.com:* 'unsafe-inline' 'unsafe-eval'  =
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   blob: data: 'self';style-src data: blob: 'unsafe-inline' *;connect-src  =
 *.facebook.com facebook.com *.fbcdn.net *.facebook.net *.spotilocal.com:* =
  *.akamaihd.net wss://*.facebook.com:* https://fb.scanandcleanlocal.com:* =
  *.atlassolutions.com attachment.fbsbx.com ws://localhost:* blob:   *.cdni=
nstagram.com 'self' chrome-extension://boadgeojelhgndaghljhdicfkmllpafd   c=
hrome-extension://dliochdbjfkdbacpmhlcpmleaejidimm;
content-security-policy: default-src * data: blob:;script-src *.facebook.co=
m *.fbcdn.net   *.facebook.net *.google-analytics.com *.virtualearth.net *.=
google.com   127.0.0.1:* *.spotilocal.com:* 'unsafe-inline' 'unsafe-eval'  =
 fbstatic-a.akamaihd.net fbcdn-static-b-a.akamaihd.net *.atlassolutions.com=
   blob: data: 'self';style-src data: blob: 'unsafe-inline' *;connect-src  =
 *.facebook.com facebook.com *.fbcdn.net *.facebook.net *.spotilocal.com:* =
  *.akamaihd.net wss://*.facebook.com:* https://fb.scanandcleanlocal.com:* =
  *.atlassolutions.com attachment.fbsbx.com ws://localhost:* blob:   *.cdni=
nstagram.com 'self';
access-control-allow-methods: options
access-control-allow-methods: get
access-control-allow-methods: get, post, options
access-control-expose-headers: content-length
access-control-expose-headers: x-fb-debug, x-loader-length
access-control-expose-headers: x-frontend
x-amz-cf-id
x-fb-debug
access-control-allow-headers: content-type
x-served-by
link: <https://fonts.gstatic.com>; rel=3Dpreconnect; crossorigin
content-type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded
content-type: text/plain;charset=3Dutf-8
content-type: text/plain
content-type: application/json
content-type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded; charset=3Dutf-8
content-length: 0
x-requested-with: xmlhttprequest
cache-control: max-age=3D0
cache-control: no-cache
intervention: <https://www.chromestatus.com/feature/5718547946799104>=
;   level=3D"warning"
x-youtube-client-name: 56
x-youtube-client-version: 20180131
x-youtube-client-version: 20180208
x-youtube-client-version: 20180206
range: bytes=3D0-
access-control-request-method: post
access-control-request-method: get
access-control-request-headers: content-type
if-modified-since
pragma: no-cache
purpose: prefetch
if-none-match
if-range: =C2=A0
pe-token: =C2=A0
x-goog-visitor-id
upgrade: websocket
sec-websocket-version: 13
sec-websocket-extensions: permessage-deflate; client_max_window_bits
sec-websocket-key
dpr: 1
viewport-width: 1024
x-newrelic-id
x-sumo-auth
authorization
x-csrf-token
client-id: jzkbprff40iqj646a697cyrvl0zt2m6
client-id: b31o4btkqth5bzbvr9ub2ovr79umhh
service-worker: script

Obviously, there are some notable caveats, given the source of the data:=

  • This is entirely successful requests, IIUC, so headers that oc= cur on failures aren't represented
  • This is Chrome, so browser-specific headers will be biased
  • This is a point-in-time and some of these we won't wish to memorialize = (e.g. the Alt-Svc entries that include Google versions). In particular, I = drew on runs from a single day for this analysis.
  • Pseudo-headers aren't visible in this archive (which is why the prevale= nce of a "Status: 200" header surprises me)

Still, I find it a useful initial result. Happy to share the queries th= at led to this, if anyone wants to replicate. I used a modified version of= the query in the linked thread to summarize frequencies into my own (small= er) table, then ran queries against that smaller table to produce this list= .

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You might also want to add zstd compression even if it isn't very popular yet - in the same class as br (brotli):

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----==_mimepart_5aa038d4d90da_6f0e2ae675d16ed492391-- From nobody Wed Mar 7 11:27:38 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FC0A1289B0 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2018 11:27:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.028 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.028 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CM16e8pi7Ldr for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2018 11:27:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from o4.sgmail.github.com (o4.sgmail.github.com [192.254.112.99]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D0081200F1 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2018 11:27:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=gLsBO32BKqaxtttxD2ERe63r2Z0=; b=Fs9loqeIbe2y9F7P 5GmXJ+iCoyuOtq2RII12UIXmUFBkSWUgFEswHCE1lJOf5ij47QrpPQNjsgY6XSTG dhrYLi8VsDYzo1NrbU0PhC3XP7XPFyx0MxsOoGForLJSwymgAd19Y0WFPEmKQZof dAF2wCccEj94VMalxUodcwCio9A= Received: by filter0922p1mdw1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0922p1mdw1-28287-5AA03D25-14 2018-03-07 19:27:33.406379171 +0000 UTC Received: from smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) by ismtpd0029p1mdw1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id WQaWmwHKSGCL2Y55Pic_mw for ; Wed, 07 Mar 2018 19:27:33.269 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2018 19:27:33 +0000 (UTC) From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP header compression: static table fit for QUIC (#904) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aa03ad2aca04_10753f9b36a0af302762dc"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak35CjXUsoAaCVHeaaiahI9+27Pd2/Ci4BCCKq 4D3dAJcUYI8s1fzarwbWUKjsetCPJcy5vKVRl5PYivuLdQkiyVx18HD4MtoKPXVm8P/zRCDIPNn/Qa j6eqcFmAjW73oQr5nQfhkKZJsLNKOjJ7kVx8uI8GANBPq+2BiMF8JCyvy4aaMvERGnPfHKW/4HnLVd E= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2018 19:27:36 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aa03ad2aca04_10753f9b36a0af302762dc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A suggestion from @martinflack: Different use-cases (IoT, video, etc.) might have different sets of headers that make more sense than those we're observing on general web traffic. Rather than fixing one static table in stone forever, allocate one instruction to switching static tables. Start with the one in the spec, and as/if future static tables are defined in the future, use a setting to announce which others are supported and use the reserved instruction on the control stream to announce "switching to static table 4 now". This might ought to be a separate issue, but since this issue is on improving the static table generally, I'll mention it here as well. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/904#issuecomment-371252153 ----==_mimepart_5aa03ad2aca04_10753f9b36a0af302762dc Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

A suggestion from @martinflack: Different use-cases (IoT, video, etc.) might= have different sets of headers that make more sense than those we're obser= ving on general web traffic. Rather than fixing one static table in stone = forever, allocate one instruction to switching static tables. Start with t= he one in the spec, and as/if future static tables are defined in the futur= e, use a setting to announce which others are supported and use the reserve= d instruction on the control stream to announce "switching to static table = 4 now".

This might ought to be a separate issue, but since this issue is on impr= oving the static table generally, I'll mention it here as well.

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Start with the one in the spec, and as/if future static tables are defin= ed in the future, use a setting to announce which others are supported and = use the reserved instruction on the control stream to announce "switching t= o static table 4 now".

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Great analysis @MikeBishop, thanks!

It was mentioned earlier that there is a could be a possibility for th= e static table to be larger. How did that turn out?

I strongly support switchable tables. Would there be a need to define a = "common structure" to aid machine-driven definition and validation? Or is t= he current textual format good enough?

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Thanks, Mike. Addressed your comments, PTAL. > @@ -1477,35 +1481,240 @@ connection if the integrity check fails with a PROTOCOL_VIOLATION error code. ## Connection Migration {#migration} -QUIC connections are identified by their 64-bit Connection ID. QUIC's -consistent connection ID allows connections to survive changes to the client's -IP and/or port, such as those caused by client or server migrating to a new -network. Connection migration allows a client to retain any shared state with a -connection when they move networks. This includes state that can be hard to -recover such as outstanding requests, which might otherwise be lost with no easy -way to retry them. +QUIC allows connections to survive changes to endpoint addresses (that is, IP +address and/or port), such as those caused by a client migrating to a new +network. This section describes the protocol for migrating a connection to a +new client address. + +Migrating a connection to a new server address is left for future work. If a +client receives packets in the connection from a new server address, the client Ok, removed. > + +An endpoint MAY bundle PATH_CHALLENGE and PATH_RESPONSE frames with other +frames, as appropriate. For instance, an endpoint may pad a packet carrying a +PATH_CHALLENGE for PMTU discovery, or an endpoint may bundle a PATH_RESPONSE +with its own PATH_CHALLENGE. + + +#### Initiation + +To initiate path validation, an endpoint sends a PATH_CHALLENGE frame containing +a payload that is hard to guess on the path to be validated. + +An endpoint MAY send additional PATH_CHALLENGE frames to handle packet loss, +but is subject to the following limit to avoid excessive network load: an +endpoint SHOULD NOT send a PATH_CHALLENGE more frequently than it would a client +INITIAL, ensuring that connection migration is no more load on a new path than Fixed. > + +An endpoint MAY send additional PATH_CHALLENGE frames to handle packet loss, +but is subject to the following limit to avoid excessive network load: an +endpoint SHOULD NOT send a PATH_CHALLENGE more frequently than it would a client +INITIAL, ensuring that connection migration is no more load on a new path than +establishing a new connection. + +The endpoint MUST use fresh random data in every PATH_CHALLENGE frame so that it +can associate the peer's response with the causative PATH_CHALLENGE. + + +#### Response + +On receiving a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, an endpoint MUST respond immediately by +echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame, +with the following stipulation. Since a PATH_CHALLENGE may be sent from a Ah, right. I'm always confused between may and might. This is a good way to think about it. Done. > +can associate the peer's response with the causative PATH_CHALLENGE. + + +#### Response + +On receiving a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, an endpoint MUST respond immediately by +echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame, +with the following stipulation. Since a PATH_CHALLENGE may be sent from a +spoofed address, an endpoint MAY limit the rate at which it sends PATH_RESPONSE +frames and MAY silently discard PATH_CHALLENGE frames that would cause it to +respond at a higher rate. + +Path validation tests both directions of a path. To ensure reachability in both +directions, the PATH_RESPONSE MUST be sent on the same path as the triggering +PATH_CHALLENGE: from the same local address on which the PATH_CHALLENGE was +received, to the same remote address from which the PATH_CHALLENGE was received. an address is defined above as IP and/or port > + +On receiving a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, the peer MUST immediately respond by +echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame. +The PATH_RESPONSE MUST be sent on the same path: from the same local address on +which the PATH_CHALLENGE was received, to the same remote address from which the +PATH_CHALLENGE was received. + +The new address is not considered valid until a PATH_RESPONSE frame containing +the same payload is received, even if the packet containing the PATH_CHALLENGE +frame is acknowledged. + +The PATH_RESPONSE frame MUST be received from the same remote address to which +the corresponding PATH_CHALLENGE was sent. If a PATH_RESPONSE frame is received +from a different remote address than the one to which the PATH_CHALLENGE was +sent, path validation is considered to have failed, even if the data matches +that sent in the PATH_CHALLENGE. Yes, that would be quite a different deal. You'd want to be very careful when thinking about reachability in the multipath case, but as you say, that's for a different day. > +The endpoint SHOULD abandon path validation after sending some number of +PATH_CHALLENGE frames or after some time has passed. When setting this timer, +implementations are cautioned that the new path could have a longer round-trip +time than the original. Again, to avoid excessive network load, an endpoint +SHOULD NOT send more PATH_CHALLENGE frames than it would a client INITIAL, +ensuring that connection migration is no more load on a new path than +establishing a new connection. + +The endpoint may receive packets containing other frames during this period, but +a PATH_RESPONSE frame with appropriate data is required for the path validation +to succeed. + + +### Initiating Connection Migration {#initiating-migration} + +A client MAY initiate connection migration to a new local address in one of two Good suggestions. I've made restructured a bit so that it flows as you suggest instead of "two ways". > + +### Handling Address Spoofing by an On-path Attacker {#on-path-spoofing} + +An on-path attacker could cause a spurious connection migration by capturing and +forwarding a packet such that it arrives before the legitimate copy of that +packet. Such a packet will appear to be a legitimate connection migration and +the legitimate copy will be dropped as a duplicate. After a spurious migration, +validation of the source address will fail because the entity at the source +address does not have the necessary cryptographic keys to read or respond to the +PATH_CHALLENGE frame that is sent to it, even if it wanted to. + +To protect the connection from failing due to such a spurious migration, the +server MUST revert to using the last validated client address when validation of +a new client address fails. If the server has no state about the last validated +client address, it MUST close the connection silently and discard any further +packets received from the client for this connection. Good q. I've changed it so that the server basically discards all connection state, leaving subsequent packets to be treated generically. That is, the server could send Stateless Resets in response. 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Thanks, Mike. Addressed your comments, PTAL.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1477,35 +1481,240 @@ connection if the integrity check fails with a PROTOCOL_VIOLATION error code.
 
 ## Connection Migration {#migration}
 
-QUIC connections are identified by their 64-bit Connection ID.  QUIC's
-consistent connection ID allows connections to survive changes to the client's
-IP and/or port, such as those caused by client or server migrating to a new
-network.  Connection migration allows a client to retain any shared state with a
-connection when they move networks.  This includes state that can be hard to
-recover such as outstanding requests, which might otherwise be lost with no easy
-way to retry them.
+QUIC allows connections to survive changes to endpoint addresses (that is, IP
+address and/or port), such as those caused by a client migrating to a new
+network.  This section describes the protocol for migrating a connection to a
+new client address.
+
+Migrating a connection to a new server address is left for future work. If a
+client receives packets in the connection from a new server address, the client

Ok, removed.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+An endpoint MAY bundle PATH_CHALLENGE and PATH_RESPONSE frames with other
+frames, as appropriate.  For instance, an endpoint may pad a packet carrying a
+PATH_CHALLENGE for PMTU discovery, or an endpoint may bundle a PATH_RESPONSE
+with its own PATH_CHALLENGE.
+
+
+#### Initiation
+
+To initiate path validation, an endpoint sends a PATH_CHALLENGE frame containing
+a payload that is hard to guess on the path to be validated.
+
+An endpoint MAY send additional PATH_CHALLENGE frames to handle packet loss,
+but is subject to the following limit to avoid excessive network load: an
+endpoint SHOULD NOT send a PATH_CHALLENGE more frequently than it would a client
+INITIAL, ensuring that connection migration is no more load on a new path than

Fixed.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+An endpoint MAY send additional PATH_CHALLENGE frames to handle packet loss,
+but is subject to the following limit to avoid excessive network load: an
+endpoint SHOULD NOT send a PATH_CHALLENGE more frequently than it would a client
+INITIAL, ensuring that connection migration is no more load on a new path than
+establishing a new connection.
+
+The endpoint MUST use fresh random data in every PATH_CHALLENGE frame so that it
+can associate the peer's response with the causative PATH_CHALLENGE.
+
+
+#### Response
+
+On receiving a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, an endpoint MUST respond immediately by
+echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame,
+with the following stipulation.  Since a PATH_CHALLENGE may be sent from a

Ah, right. I'm always confused between may and might. This is a good way to think about it. Done.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +can associate the peer's response with the causative PATH_CHALLENGE.
+
+
+#### Response
+
+On receiving a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, an endpoint MUST respond immediately by
+echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame,
+with the following stipulation.  Since a PATH_CHALLENGE may be sent from a
+spoofed address, an endpoint MAY limit the rate at which it sends PATH_RESPONSE
+frames and MAY silently discard PATH_CHALLENGE frames that would cause it to
+respond at a higher rate.
+
+Path validation tests both directions of a path.  To ensure reachability in both
+directions, the PATH_RESPONSE MUST be sent on the same path as the triggering
+PATH_CHALLENGE: from the same local address on which the PATH_CHALLENGE was
+received, to the same remote address from which the PATH_CHALLENGE was received.

an address is defined above as IP and/or port

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+On receiving a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, the peer MUST immediately respond by
+echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame.
+The PATH_RESPONSE MUST be sent on the same path: from the same local address on
+which the PATH_CHALLENGE was received, to the same remote address from which the
+PATH_CHALLENGE was received.
+
+The new address is not considered valid until a PATH_RESPONSE frame containing
+the same payload is received, even if the packet containing the PATH_CHALLENGE
+frame is acknowledged.
+
+The PATH_RESPONSE frame MUST be received from the same remote address to which
+the corresponding PATH_CHALLENGE was sent. If a PATH_RESPONSE frame is received
+from a different remote address than the one to which the PATH_CHALLENGE was
+sent, path validation is considered to have failed, even if the data matches
+that sent in the PATH_CHALLENGE.

Yes, that would be quite a different deal. You'd want to be very careful when thinking about reachability in the multipath case, but as you say, that's for a different day.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +The endpoint SHOULD abandon path validation after sending some number of
+PATH_CHALLENGE frames or after some time has passed.  When setting this timer,
+implementations are cautioned that the new path could have a longer round-trip
+time than the original.  Again, to avoid excessive network load, an endpoint
+SHOULD NOT send more PATH_CHALLENGE frames than it would a client INITIAL,
+ensuring that connection migration is no more load on a new path than
+establishing a new connection.
+
+The endpoint may receive packets containing other frames during this period, but
+a PATH_RESPONSE frame with appropriate data is required for the path validation
+to succeed.
+
+
+### Initiating Connection Migration {#initiating-migration}
+
+A client MAY initiate connection migration to a new local address in one of two

Good suggestions. I've made restructured a bit so that it flows as you suggest instead of "two ways".

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+### Handling Address Spoofing by an On-path Attacker {#on-path-spoofing}
+
+An on-path attacker could cause a spurious connection migration by capturing and
+forwarding a packet such that it arrives before the legitimate copy of that
+packet.  Such a packet will appear to be a legitimate connection migration and
+the legitimate copy will be dropped as a duplicate. After a spurious migration,
+validation of the source address will fail because the entity at the source
+address does not have the necessary cryptographic keys to read or respond to the
+PATH_CHALLENGE frame that is sent to it, even if it wanted to.
+
+To protect the connection from failing due to such a spurious migration, the
+server MUST revert to using the last validated client address when validation of
+a new client address fails. If the server has no state about the last validated
+client address, it MUST close the connection silently and discard any further
+packets received from the client for this connection.

Good q. I've changed it so that the server basically discards all connection state, leaving subsequent packets to be treated generically. That is, the server could send Stateless Resets in response. I think this is reasonable.

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Latest changes look great! A few minor nits and other comments, but nothing major. > +frames, as appropriate. For instance, an endpoint may pad a packet carrying a +PATH_CHALLENGE for PMTU discovery, or an endpoint may bundle a PATH_RESPONSE +with its own PATH_CHALLENGE. + + +#### Initiation + +To initiate path validation, an endpoint sends a PATH_CHALLENGE frame containing +a payload that is hard to guess on the path to be validated. + +An endpoint MAY send additional PATH_CHALLENGE frames to handle packet loss. An +endpoint SHOULD NOT send a PATH_CHALLENGE more frequently than it would an +Initial packet, ensuring that connection migration is no more load on a new path +than establishing a new connection. + +The endpoint MUST use fresh random data in every PATH_CHALLENGE frame so that it Here we indicate that this should be random data, but above we just said "hard to guess" -- I know we took out the note about what's considered hard to guess, but perhaps we should still include a note in the above paragraph that it's random? > + +On receiving a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, the peer MUST immediately respond by +echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame. +The PATH_RESPONSE MUST be sent on the same path: from the same local address on +which the PATH_CHALLENGE was received, to the same remote address from which the +PATH_CHALLENGE was received. + +The new address is not considered valid until a PATH_RESPONSE frame containing +the same payload is received, even if the packet containing the PATH_CHALLENGE +frame is acknowledged. + +The PATH_RESPONSE frame MUST be received from the same remote address to which +the corresponding PATH_CHALLENGE was sent. If a PATH_RESPONSE frame is received +from a different remote address than the one to which the PATH_CHALLENGE was +sent, path validation is considered to have failed, even if the data matches +that sent in the PATH_CHALLENGE. I'd agree that requiring bi-directional reachability in this version is a good step, we can always remove that when defining true multipath. > +on a different local address than the one from which the PATH_CHALLENGE was +sent, path validation is considered to have failed, even if the data matches +that sent in the PATH_CHALLENGE. Thus, the endpoint considers the path to be +valid when a PATH_RESPONSE frame is received on the same path with the same +payload as the PATH_CHALLENGE frame. + + +#### Abandonment + +The endpoint SHOULD abandon path validation after sending some number of +PATH_CHALLENGE frames or after some time has passed. When setting this timer, +implementations are cautioned that the new path could have a longer round-trip +time than the original. Again, to avoid excessive network load, an endpoint +SHOULD NOT send more PATH_CHALLENGE frames than it would a client INITIAL, +ensuring that connection migration is no more load on a new path than +establishing a new connection. Good to have this reminder so everything is in one place when implementing > +payload as the PATH_CHALLENGE frame. + + +#### Abandonment + +The endpoint SHOULD abandon path validation after sending some number of +PATH_CHALLENGE frames or after some time has passed. When setting this timer, +implementations are cautioned that the new path could have a longer round-trip +time than the original. Again, to avoid excessive network load, an endpoint +SHOULD NOT send more PATH_CHALLENGE frames than it would a client INITIAL, +ensuring that connection migration is no more load on a new path than +establishing a new connection. + +The endpoint may receive packets containing other frames during this period, but +a PATH_RESPONSE frame with appropriate data is required for the path validation +to succeed. Does this mean packets on the new path or on the old path? What are we trying to indicate here? > +to succeed. + + +### Initiating Connection Migration {#initiating-migration} + +A client can migrate a connection to a new local address by sending all packets +from the new local address. Since the server's address is validated during +connection establishment, receiving acknowledgments for this data serves as +proof of the server's reachability from the new address. Note that since +acknowledgments may be received on any path, return reachability on the new path +is not established. To establish return reachability on the new path, a client +MAY concurrently initiate path validation {{migrate-validate}} on the new path. + +If it has the opportunity, a client MAY probe for server reachability from a +new local address using path validation {{migrate-validate}} prior to migrating +the connection to it. Failure of path validation simply means that the new nit: `to it` -> `to the new local address` > -An endpoint MUST validate that its peer can receive packets at the new address -before sending any significant quantity of data to that address, or it risks -being used for denial of service. See {{migrate-validate}} for details. +Receiving a packet from a new client address indicates that the client may be +immediately migrating if + +* the packet is a "non-probing" packet. That is, it contains a frame other than +PATH_CHALLENGE, PATH_RESPONSE, or PADDING; and + +* the packet carries a packet number that is the largest seen thus far. + +Upon receiving such a packet, the server MUST abandon any path validation it is +performing with other addresses on the expectation that those validations are +likely to fail. Abandoning path validation primarily means ceasing subsequent +transmissions of the PATH_CHALLENGE frame. An endpoint MUST ignore any +subsequently received PATH_RESPONSE frames from abandoned addresses. This could mean the client ends up spending some additional time if it wants to re-establish reachability on the other addresses / maintain that ahead of time (like is best for performance). Probably okay, but worth considering. > +After verifying a new client address, the server SHOULD send new address +validation tokens ({{address-validation}}) to the client if the current ones +will not be adequate to validate the new client address. + + +### Handling Address Spoofing by a Client {#address-spoofing} + +It is possible that the client is spoofing its source address to cause the +server to send excessive amounts of data to an unwilling host. If the server +sends significantly more data than the client, connection migration might be +used to amplify the volume of data that an attacker can generate toward a +victim. + +Thus, on receiving and decrypting a packet from an unvalidated address, the +server MUST immediately validate the client's new address to confirm the +client's possession of the new address. I worry that people may be confused by the perceived conflict between this and: ``` A server MAY skip validation of a client address if it has been seen recently or if the server has reasonable certainty that the new address is the result of a NAT rebinding. ``` Can we resolve that somehow? Perhaps we could say above: ``` A server MAY consider validation to be complete for a client address that has been seen recently or if the server has reasonable certainty that the new address is the result of a NAT rebinding. ``` Or something to that effect (maybe `A server MAY deem a client address to be valid` to echo the next paragraph here). > -An endpoint MUST validate that its peer can receive packets at the new address -before sending any significant quantity of data to that address, or it risks -being used for denial of service. See {{migrate-validate}} for details. +Receiving a packet from a new client address indicates that the client may be +immediately migrating if + +* the packet is a "non-probing" packet. That is, it contains a frame other than +PATH_CHALLENGE, PATH_RESPONSE, or PADDING; and + +* the packet carries a packet number that is the largest seen thus far. + +Upon receiving such a packet, the server MUST abandon any path validation it is +performing with other addresses on the expectation that those validations are +likely to fail. Abandoning path validation primarily means ceasing subsequent +transmissions of the PATH_CHALLENGE frame. An endpoint MUST ignore any +subsequently received PATH_RESPONSE frames from abandoned addresses. Ah, I see below that this allows us to avoid issues where someone tries to migrate us and we grab it back. Looks fine in that case. > +validation of the address of the spurious migration to be abandoned. + + +### Loss Detection and Congestion Control + +The capacity available on the new path might not be the same as the old path. +Packets sent on the old path SHOULD NOT contribute to the state of the +congestion control and RTT estimation on the new path. If it is using a single +congestion controller and round-trip time estimator, the client SHOULD reset +them prior to sending any non-probing packets from a new local address. + +After successful validation of the client's new address, the server SHOULD reset +its congestion controller and round-trip time estimator prior to sending any +further non-probing packets. + +An endpoint MUST NOT restore its send rate unless it is reasonably sure that the Nit: `restore` -> `return to` ? > @@ -1541,112 +1731,6 @@ number. "packet_number_secret" is derived from the TLS key exchange, as described in Section 5.6 of {{QUIC-TLS}}. 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@erickinnear commented on this pull request.

Latest changes look great! A few minor nits and other comments, but nothing major.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +frames, as appropriate.  For instance, an endpoint may pad a packet carrying a
+PATH_CHALLENGE for PMTU discovery, or an endpoint may bundle a PATH_RESPONSE
+with its own PATH_CHALLENGE.
+
+
+#### Initiation
+
+To initiate path validation, an endpoint sends a PATH_CHALLENGE frame containing
+a payload that is hard to guess on the path to be validated.
+
+An endpoint MAY send additional PATH_CHALLENGE frames to handle packet loss.  An
+endpoint SHOULD NOT send a PATH_CHALLENGE more frequently than it would an
+Initial packet, ensuring that connection migration is no more load on a new path
+than establishing a new connection.
+
+The endpoint MUST use fresh random data in every PATH_CHALLENGE frame so that it

Here we indicate that this should be random data, but above we just said "hard to guess" -- I know we took out the note about what's considered hard to guess, but perhaps we should still include a note in the above paragraph that it's random?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+On receiving a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, the peer MUST immediately respond by
+echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame.
+The PATH_RESPONSE MUST be sent on the same path: from the same local address on
+which the PATH_CHALLENGE was received, to the same remote address from which the
+PATH_CHALLENGE was received.
+
+The new address is not considered valid until a PATH_RESPONSE frame containing
+the same payload is received, even if the packet containing the PATH_CHALLENGE
+frame is acknowledged.
+
+The PATH_RESPONSE frame MUST be received from the same remote address to which
+the corresponding PATH_CHALLENGE was sent. If a PATH_RESPONSE frame is received
+from a different remote address than the one to which the PATH_CHALLENGE was
+sent, path validation is considered to have failed, even if the data matches
+that sent in the PATH_CHALLENGE.

I'd agree that requiring bi-directional reachability in this version is a good step, we can always remove that when defining true multipath.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +on a different local address than the one from which the PATH_CHALLENGE was
+sent, path validation is considered to have failed, even if the data matches
+that sent in the PATH_CHALLENGE.  Thus, the endpoint considers the path to be
+valid when a PATH_RESPONSE frame is received on the same path with the same
+payload as the PATH_CHALLENGE frame.
+
+
+#### Abandonment
+
+The endpoint SHOULD abandon path validation after sending some number of
+PATH_CHALLENGE frames or after some time has passed.  When setting this timer,
+implementations are cautioned that the new path could have a longer round-trip
+time than the original.  Again, to avoid excessive network load, an endpoint
+SHOULD NOT send more PATH_CHALLENGE frames than it would a client INITIAL,
+ensuring that connection migration is no more load on a new path than
+establishing a new connection.

Good to have this reminder so everything is in one place when implementing

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +payload as the PATH_CHALLENGE frame.
+
+
+#### Abandonment
+
+The endpoint SHOULD abandon path validation after sending some number of
+PATH_CHALLENGE frames or after some time has passed.  When setting this timer,
+implementations are cautioned that the new path could have a longer round-trip
+time than the original.  Again, to avoid excessive network load, an endpoint
+SHOULD NOT send more PATH_CHALLENGE frames than it would a client INITIAL,
+ensuring that connection migration is no more load on a new path than
+establishing a new connection.
+
+The endpoint may receive packets containing other frames during this period, but
+a PATH_RESPONSE frame with appropriate data is required for the path validation
+to succeed.

Does this mean packets on the new path or on the old path? What are we trying to indicate here?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +to succeed.
+
+
+### Initiating Connection Migration {#initiating-migration}
+
+A client can migrate a connection to a new local address by sending all packets
+from the new local address.  Since the server's address is validated during
+connection establishment, receiving acknowledgments for this data serves as
+proof of the server's reachability from the new address.  Note that since
+acknowledgments may be received on any path, return reachability on the new path
+is not established. To establish return reachability on the new path, a client
+MAY concurrently initiate path validation {{migrate-validate}} on the new path.
+
+If it has the opportunity, a client MAY probe for server reachability from a
+new local address using path validation {{migrate-validate}} prior to migrating
+the connection to it.  Failure of path validation simply means that the new

nit: to it -> to the new local address

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -An endpoint MUST validate that its peer can receive packets at the new address
-before sending any significant quantity of data to that address, or it risks
-being used for denial of service.  See {{migrate-validate}} for details.
+Receiving a packet from a new client address indicates that the client may be
+immediately migrating if
+
+* the packet is a "non-probing" packet. That is, it contains a frame other than
+PATH_CHALLENGE, PATH_RESPONSE, or PADDING; and
+
+* the packet carries a packet number that is the largest seen thus far.
+
+Upon receiving such a packet, the server MUST abandon any path validation it is
+performing with other addresses on the expectation that those validations are
+likely to fail.  Abandoning path validation primarily means ceasing subsequent
+transmissions of the PATH_CHALLENGE frame.  An endpoint MUST ignore any
+subsequently received PATH_RESPONSE frames from abandoned addresses.

This could mean the client ends up spending some additional time if it wants to re-establish reachability on the other addresses / maintain that ahead of time (like is best for performance). Probably okay, but worth considering.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +After verifying a new client address, the server SHOULD send new address
+validation tokens ({{address-validation}}) to the client if the current ones
+will not be adequate to validate the new client address.
+
+
+### Handling Address Spoofing by a Client {#address-spoofing}
+
+It is possible that the client is spoofing its source address to cause the
+server to send excessive amounts of data to an unwilling host.  If the server
+sends significantly more data than the client, connection migration might be
+used to amplify the volume of data that an attacker can generate toward a
+victim.
+
+Thus, on receiving and decrypting a packet from an unvalidated address, the
+server MUST immediately validate the client's new address to confirm the
+client's possession of the new address.

I worry that people may be confused by the perceived conflict between this and:

A server MAY skip validation of a client address if it has been seen recently or
if the server has reasonable certainty that the new address is the result of a
NAT rebinding.

Can we resolve that somehow?

Perhaps we could say above:

A server MAY consider validation to be complete for a client address that has been 
seen recently or if the server has reasonable certainty that the new address is the 
result of a NAT rebinding.

Or something to that effect (maybe A server MAY deem a client address to be valid to echo the next paragraph here).

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -An endpoint MUST validate that its peer can receive packets at the new address
-before sending any significant quantity of data to that address, or it risks
-being used for denial of service.  See {{migrate-validate}} for details.
+Receiving a packet from a new client address indicates that the client may be
+immediately migrating if
+
+* the packet is a "non-probing" packet. That is, it contains a frame other than
+PATH_CHALLENGE, PATH_RESPONSE, or PADDING; and
+
+* the packet carries a packet number that is the largest seen thus far.
+
+Upon receiving such a packet, the server MUST abandon any path validation it is
+performing with other addresses on the expectation that those validations are
+likely to fail.  Abandoning path validation primarily means ceasing subsequent
+transmissions of the PATH_CHALLENGE frame.  An endpoint MUST ignore any
+subsequently received PATH_RESPONSE frames from abandoned addresses.

Ah, I see below that this allows us to avoid issues where someone tries to migrate us and we grab it back. Looks fine in that case.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +validation of the address of the spurious migration to be abandoned.
+
+
+### Loss Detection and Congestion Control
+
+The capacity available on the new path might not be the same as the old path.
+Packets sent on the old path SHOULD NOT contribute to the state of the
+congestion control and RTT estimation on the new path. If it is using a single
+congestion controller and round-trip time estimator, the client SHOULD reset
+them prior to sending any non-probing packets from a new local address.
+
+After successful validation of the client's new address, the server SHOULD reset
+its congestion controller and round-trip time estimator prior to sending any
+further non-probing packets.
+
+An endpoint MUST NOT restore its send rate unless it is reasonably sure that the

Nit: restore -> return to ?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1541,112 +1731,6 @@ number. "packet_number_secret" is derived from the TLS key exchange,
 as described in Section 5.6 of {{QUIC-TLS}}.

I agree with Christian, this seems fragile, but that's for another issue and discussion

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----==_mimepart_5aa053baa646e_2c0a3fdfd3774f28763b2-- From nobody Wed Mar 7 13:25:30 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBFE112D7F9 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2018 13:25:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6GVxsm5lOuf5 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2018 13:25:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from o3.sgmail.github.com (o3.sgmail.github.com [192.254.112.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 666FA12D7EF for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2018 13:25:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=xUtrIJBEAMqy3yC/7LCVSWoqwvk=; b=puUYjCAidIhN+ucb VYSFS10hTtA5fYKbM6eGtmd1kb4si6B7Gv14jI8YV7BzEfXbyem5T7H50NlaBcQd IGS0kORNk59LLGFzhrTJ4UEkxOsKf6J0sv4hJBilxcKPwC+eoMscfJpUqcXax80z u6Ub2Z0VU0w4DjT8SXsirOXEDM0= Received: by filter0304p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0304p1las1-9223-5AA058C5-1D 2018-03-07 21:25:25.911077927 +0000 UTC Received: from smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) by ismtpd0001p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id DkXRopcDQTSw7rxa-ERxCQ for ; Wed, 07 Mar 2018 21:25:25.727 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2018 21:25:26 +0000 (UTC) From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP header compression: static table fit for QUIC (#904) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aa058c5a04ce_2a7a3fda34ea8f281854be"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak1dF0B8hZmd/BNW92IjWTdhEFbttqXsIH+eu3 BISvPCAmzeTmvrcmIa3fA0t6ZJTteZRiGdfJvMQkktN4r0aCugCaaVAefsP+yDSzDTGfMQ44NmW71/ EUQ/0Jh4Z8SZD9W4fGWKE0I53eYUTvvnLTlshai/B3NJkuSdVciWuIlNTsDAUSMO57TVbAbfkKoyRg 8= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2018 21:25:28 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aa058c5a04ce_2a7a3fda34ea8f281854be Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm less keen about switching tables in and out, but moving to a new table would be good. On the list that is shown, it definitely needs to be scrubbed for bias. The User-Agent values are clearly common and so the value can simply be removed. `Origin: https://www.facebook.com` has got to go as well, and the same goes for some of the clearly biased x- header fields. Not sure what I think of client hints and some of the other client-specific biases, but I see no reason not to include standardized header fields. That said, I would not object to having this as the basis of a new table, especially with #1141. I assume that your methods are reproducible. It's a shame that you don't have pseudo-header fields in there. That might need some logging if you care about frequency analysis. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/904#issuecomment-371290080 ----==_mimepart_5aa058c5a04ce_2a7a3fda34ea8f281854be Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Looking great! Some comments. > @@ -150,10 +150,26 @@ version-specific semantics are marked with an X. {: #fig-long title="QUIC Long Header"} A QUIC packet with a long header has the high bit of the first octet set to 1. +All other bits in that octet are version specific. + +The next octet contains the length in octets of the two Connection IDs (see +{{connection-id}}) that follow. Each length is encoded as a 4 bit unsigned 4-bit > -A QUIC packet with a long header has two fixed fields immediately following the -first octet: a 64-bit Connection ID (see {{connection-id}}) and a 32-bit Version -(see {{version}}). +The connection ID lengths are followed by a two connection IDs. The connection remove "a" > -A QUIC packet with a long header has two fixed fields immediately following the -first octet: a 64-bit Connection ID (see {{connection-id}}) and a 32-bit Version -(see {{version}}). +The connection ID lengths are followed by a two connection IDs. The connection +ID associated with the recipient of the packet (the Destination Connection ID) +is followed by the connection ID associated with the sender of the packet (the +Source Connection ID). maybe s/"associated with"/"chosen by"/ > -A QUIC packet with a long header has two fixed fields immediately following the -first octet: a 64-bit Connection ID (see {{connection-id}}) and a 32-bit Version -(see {{version}}). +The connection ID lengths are followed by a two connection IDs. The connection +ID associated with the recipient of the packet (the Destination Connection ID) +is followed by the connection ID associated with the sender of the packet (the +Source Connection ID). + +After both Connection IDs, a 32-bit Version (see {{version}}) is followed by a "After" seems a bit odd. How about "The Connection IDs are followed by a 32-bit Version (see {{version}}) and a version-specific payload." > @@ -178,16 +191,17 @@ version-specific semantics are marked with an X. A QUIC packet with a short header has the high bit of the first octet set to 0. -A QUIC packet with a short header includes an optional connection ID and no -version field. The second bit of that octet (that is, 0x40) determines whether -the connection ID is present. If the second bit is cleared, a 64-bit connection -ID immediately follows the first octet. If the second bit is set, the remainder -of the packet has version-specific semantics. +A QUIC packet with a short header includes a Destination Connection ID. The I would call that out explicitly. "an optional Destination Connection ID" should do the job. > @@ -257,9 +272,12 @@ Version Negotiation packets do not use integrity or confidentiality protection. A specific QUIC version might authenticate the packet as part of its connection establishment process. -The Connection ID field in a Version Negotiation packet contains the Connection -ID from the packet that was received. This provides some protection against -injection of Version Negotiation packets by off-path attackers. +The Connection ID fields in a Version Negotiation packet contain the Connection +ID values from the packet that was received by the server, inverted to ensure +correct routing of the packet toward the client based on the Destination +Connection ID. Echoing the value of the client's Destination Connection ID in I would remove "based on the Destination Connection ID", since it's not clear which packet's Destination ID is being mentioned (and it is unnecessary). > @@ -257,9 +272,12 @@ Version Negotiation packets do not use integrity or confidentiality protection. A specific QUIC version might authenticate the packet as part of its connection establishment process. -The Connection ID field in a Version Negotiation packet contains the Connection -ID from the packet that was received. This provides some protection against -injection of Version Negotiation packets by off-path attackers. +The Connection ID fields in a Version Negotiation packet contain the Connection +ID values from the packet that was received by the server, inverted to ensure +correct routing of the packet toward the client based on the Destination +Connection ID. Echoing the value of the client's Destination Connection ID in +the Source Connection ID field can provide some protection against injection of +Version Negotiation packets by off-path attackers. Doesn't echoing the client's Source Connection ID provide this protection? Echoing either field provides this protection, doesn't it? > @@ -163,7 +163,8 @@ Connection: Connection ID: s/Connection ID/Destination Connection ID/ > @@ -163,7 +163,8 @@ Connection: Connection ID: -: The 64-bit unsigned number used as an identifier for a QUIC connection. +: An opaque identifier that is used to identify a QUIC connection. Each This sentence sounds incomplete now. How about "to identify a QUIC connection at an endpoint"? > @@ -404,26 +401,44 @@ Long Packet Type: indicate one of 128 packet types. The types specified for this version are listed in {{long-packet-types}}. -Connection ID: +DCIL and SCIL: + +: Octet 1 contains the lengths of the two connection ID fields that follow it. + These lengths are encoded as two 4-bit unsigned integers. The Destination + Connection ID Length (DCIL) field occupies the 4 high bits of the octet and + the Source Connection ID Length (SCIL) field occupies the 4 low bits of the + octet. An encoded length of 0 indicates that the connection ID is also 0 + octets in length. Non-zero encoded lengths are increased by 3 to get the full + length of the connection ID, producing a length between 4 and 18 octets + inclusive. For example, an octet with the value 0x50 describes an 8 octet 8-octet > @@ -404,26 +401,44 @@ Long Packet Type: indicate one of 128 packet types. The types specified for this version are listed in {{long-packet-types}}. -Connection ID: +DCIL and SCIL: + +: Octet 1 contains the lengths of the two connection ID fields that follow it. + These lengths are encoded as two 4-bit unsigned integers. The Destination + Connection ID Length (DCIL) field occupies the 4 high bits of the octet and + the Source Connection ID Length (SCIL) field occupies the 4 low bits of the + octet. An encoded length of 0 indicates that the connection ID is also 0 + octets in length. Non-zero encoded lengths are increased by 3 to get the full + length of the connection ID, producing a length between 4 and 18 octets + inclusive. For example, an octet with the value 0x50 describes an 8 octet + Destination Connection ID and a zero octet Source Connection ID. zero-octet > -: Octets 1 through 8 contain the connection ID. {{connection-id}} describes the - use of this field in more detail. +Destination Connection ID: + +: The Destination Connection ID field starts at octet 2 and is either 0 octets + in length or between 4 and 18 octets. {{connection-id}} describes the use of + this field in more detail. + +Source Connection ID: + +: The Source Connection ID field starts at octet 2 and is either 0 octets in +1. I would remove the starting position. > @@ -577,12 +589,20 @@ The layout of a Version Negotiation packet is: ~~~ {: #version-negotiation-format title="Version Negotiation Packet"} -The value in the Unused field is selected randomly by the server. The Connection -ID field echoes the corresponding value from the triggering client packet. This -allows clients some assurance that the server received the packet and that the -Version Negotiation packet is in fact from the server. The Version field MUST -be set to 0x00000000. The remainder of the Version Negotiation packet is a list -of 32-bit versions which the server supports. +The value in the Unused field is selected randomly by the server. + +The server MUST include the value from the Source Connection ID field of the +packet it receives in the Destination Connection ID field. The value for Source +Connection ID MUST be copied from the Destination Connection ID of the received +packet, which is initially randomly selected by a client. Echoing both +connection IDs gives clients some assurance that the server received the packet +and that the Version Negotiation packet was not generated by an off-path +attacker. This text is great. Can you use this text above in the VN section of the invariants draft? > @@ -257,9 +272,12 @@ Version Negotiation packets do not use integrity or confidentiality protection. A specific QUIC version might authenticate the packet as part of its connection establishment process. -The Connection ID field in a Version Negotiation packet contains the Connection -ID from the packet that was received. This provides some protection against -injection of Version Negotiation packets by off-path attackers. +The Connection ID fields in a Version Negotiation packet contain the Connection +ID values from the packet that was received by the server, inverted to ensure +correct routing of the packet toward the client based on the Destination +Connection ID. Echoing the value of the client's Destination Connection ID in +the Source Connection ID field can provide some protection against injection of +Version Negotiation packets by off-path attackers. The text in the VN Packet section of the transport draft is great. I would simply use that same text here. > @@ -614,10 +634,14 @@ off-path attackers. The Initial packet uses long headers with a type value of 0x7F. It carries the first cryptographic handshake message sent by the client. -The client populates the connection ID field with randomly selected values, -unless it has received a packet from the server. If the client has received a -packet from the server, the connection ID field uses the value provided by the -server. +If the client has not previously received a Retry packet from the server, it +populates the Destination Connection ID field with a randomly selected value. Is this a single random value for all packets until one is received from teh server? Or is it ok for the client to send a new random in each packet? > @@ -678,8 +707,10 @@ A Handshake packet uses long headers with a type value of 0x7D. It is used to carry acknowledgments and cryptographic handshake messages from the server and client. -The connection ID field in a Handshake packet contains a connection ID -that is chosen by the server (see {{connection-id}}). +The Destination Connection ID field in a Handshake packet contains a connection +ID that is chosen by the recipient of the packet; the Source Connection ID The server's Initial packet also carries a dest connection ID chosen by the client, right? > The client can send 0-RTT packets after receiving a Handshake packet ({{packet-handshake}}), if that packet does not complete the handshake. Even if the client receives a different connection ID in the Handshake packet, it MUST -continue to use the connection ID selected by the client for 0-RTT packets, see +continue to use the same Destination Connection ID for 0-RTT packets, see What should a receiver do if a subsequent packet is received with a different source connection ID? > -Once the client receives the connection ID that the server has chosen, it MUST -use it for all subsequent Handshake ({{packet-handshake}}) and 1-RTT -({{packet-protected}}) packets but not for 0-RTT packets ({{packet-protected}}). - -Server's Version Negotiation ({{packet-version}}) and Retry ({{packet-retry}}) -packets MUST use connection ID selected by the client. +A connection ID is used to ensure consistent routing of packets. The long +header contains two connection IDs: the Destination Connection ID is chosen by +the recipient of the packet and is used to provide consistent routing; the +Source Connection ID is used to set the Destination Connection ID used by a +peer. + +During the handshake, packets with the long header are used to establish the +Destination Connection ID that each endpoint uses. Each endpoint uses the +Source Connection ID field to specify the connection ID that is used in the +Destination Connection ID field of packets being sent to them. Upon receiving a remove "field" > - -Once the client receives the connection ID that the server has chosen, it MUST -use it for all subsequent Handshake ({{packet-handshake}}) and 1-RTT -({{packet-protected}}) packets but not for 0-RTT packets ({{packet-protected}}). - -Server's Version Negotiation ({{packet-version}}) and Retry ({{packet-retry}}) -packets MUST use connection ID selected by the client. +A connection ID is used to ensure consistent routing of packets. The long +header contains two connection IDs: the Destination Connection ID is chosen by +the recipient of the packet and is used to provide consistent routing; the +Source Connection ID is used to set the Destination Connection ID used by a +peer. + +During the handshake, packets with the long header are used to establish the +Destination Connection ID that each endpoint uses. Each endpoint uses the +Source Connection ID field to specify the connection ID that is used in the remove "field" > +packet, each endpoint sets the Destination Connection ID it sends to match the +value of the Source Connection ID that they receive. + +During the handshake, an endpoint might receive multiple packets with the long +header, and thus be given multiple opportunities to update the Destination +Connection ID it sends. A client MUST only change the value it sends in the +Destination Connection ID field in response to the first packet of each type +(Retry, or Handshake) that it receives; a server MUST only change its value +based on an Initial packet. This avoids problems that might arise from +stateless processing of multiple Initial packets producing different connection +IDs. + +Short headers only include the Destination Connection ID and omit the explicit +length. + +The very first packet sent by a client client includes a random value for too many clients > +the recipient of the packet and is used to provide consistent routing; the +Source Connection ID is used to set the Destination Connection ID used by a +peer. + +During the handshake, packets with the long header are used to establish the +Destination Connection ID that each endpoint uses. Each endpoint uses the +Source Connection ID field to specify the connection ID that is used in the +Destination Connection ID field of packets being sent to them. Upon receiving a +packet, each endpoint sets the Destination Connection ID it sends to match the +value of the Source Connection ID that they receive. + +During the handshake, an endpoint might receive multiple packets with the long +header, and thus be given multiple opportunities to update the Destination +Connection ID it sends. A client MUST only change the value it sends in the +Destination Connection ID field in response to the first packet of each type +(Retry, or Handshake) that it receives; a server MUST only change its value +1. I can't reason about packet type changes easily, but largest packet number seems robust. > @@ -1856,9 +1899,23 @@ following layout: +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ~~~ -A server copies the connection ID field from the packet that triggers the -stateless reset. A server omits the connection ID if explicitly configured to -do so, or if the client packet did not include a connection ID. +This design ensures that a stateless reset packet is - to the extent possible - +indistinguishable from a regular packet. + +A server generates a random 18-octet Destination Connection ID field. For a +client that requires that the server include a connection ID, this will mean +that this value differs from previous packets with two consequences: too many "that"s... and this is a bit of a run-on sentence. > @@ -1856,9 +1899,23 @@ following layout: +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ~~~ -A server copies the connection ID field from the packet that triggers the -stateless reset. A server omits the connection ID if explicitly configured to -do so, or if the client packet did not include a connection ID. +This design ensures that a stateless reset packet is - to the extent possible - +indistinguishable from a regular packet. + +A server generates a random 18-octet Destination Connection ID field. For a +client that requires that the server include a connection ID, this will mean +that this value differs from previous packets with two consequences: + +* The packet might not reach the client. If the Destination Connection ID is + critical for routing toward the client, then this packet could be incorrectly + routed and dropped. This causes the stateless reset to be ineffective in remove "and dropped". > @@ -1856,9 +1899,23 @@ following layout: +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ~~~ -A server copies the connection ID field from the packet that triggers the -stateless reset. A server omits the connection ID if explicitly configured to -do so, or if the client packet did not include a connection ID. +This design ensures that a stateless reset packet is - to the extent possible - +indistinguishable from a regular packet. + +A server generates a random 18-octet Destination Connection ID field. For a +client that requires that the server include a connection ID, this will mean +that this value differs from previous packets with two consequences: + +* The packet might not reach the client. If the Destination Connection ID is + critical for routing toward the client, then this packet could be incorrectly + routed and dropped. This causes the stateless reset to be ineffective in + causing errors to be quickly detected and recovered. In this case, clients + will need to rely on other methods such as timers to detect that the "other methods - such as timers - to detect" > -do so, or if the client packet did not include a connection ID. +This design ensures that a stateless reset packet is - to the extent possible - +indistinguishable from a regular packet. + +A server generates a random 18-octet Destination Connection ID field. For a +client that requires that the server include a connection ID, this will mean +that this value differs from previous packets with two consequences: + +* The packet might not reach the client. If the Destination Connection ID is + critical for routing toward the client, then this packet could be incorrectly + routed and dropped. This causes the stateless reset to be ineffective in + causing errors to be quickly detected and recovered. In this case, clients + will need to rely on other methods such as timers to detect that the + connection has failed. + +* The connection ID can be used by entities other than the client to identify "The randomly generated connection ID" > +This design ensures that a stateless reset packet is - to the extent possible - +indistinguishable from a regular packet. + +A server generates a random 18-octet Destination Connection ID field. For a +client that requires that the server include a connection ID, this will mean +that this value differs from previous packets with two consequences: + +* The packet might not reach the client. If the Destination Connection ID is + critical for routing toward the client, then this packet could be incorrectly + routed and dropped. This causes the stateless reset to be ineffective in + causing errors to be quickly detected and recovered. In this case, clients + will need to rely on other methods such as timers to detect that the + connection has failed. + +* The connection ID can be used by entities other than the client to identify + this as a potential stateless reset. A server that occasionally uses Capitalize Stateless Reset > @@ -2350,15 +2401,28 @@ Sequence: the value selected during the handshake comes immediately before the first value that a server can send. +Length: + +: An 8-bit unsigned integer containing the length of the connection ID. Values + less than 4 and greater than 18 are invalid and MUST be treated as a + connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION. It's a bit unfortunate that this length is a different encoding than DSIL and SSIL. Nothing to do about it I suppose. > Stateless Reset Token: : A 128-bit value that will be used to for a stateless reset when the associated connection ID is used (see {{stateless-reset}}). +An endpoint MUST NOT send this frame if it currently requires that its peer send +packets with a zero-length Destination Connection ID. Changing the length of a +connection ID to or from zero-length makes it very difficult to identify when +the new connection ID was used. An endpoint that is sending packets with a a I don't understand this sentence. Which is the "new connection ID"? I'm inclined to remove this sentence entirely. > Stateless Reset Token: : A 128-bit value that will be used to for a stateless reset when the associated connection ID is used (see {{stateless-reset}}). +An endpoint MUST NOT send this frame if it currently requires that its peer send +packets with a zero-length Destination Connection ID. 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Looking great! Some comments.

In draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md:

> @@ -150,10 +150,26 @@ version-specific semantics are marked with an X.
 {: #fig-long title="QUIC Long Header"}
 
 A QUIC packet with a long header has the high bit of the first octet set to 1.
+All other bits in that octet are version specific.
+
+The next octet contains the length in octets of the two Connection IDs (see
+{{connection-id}}) that follow.  Each length is encoded as a 4 bit unsigned

4-bit

In draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md:

>  
-A QUIC packet with a long header has two fixed fields immediately following the
-first octet: a 64-bit Connection ID (see {{connection-id}}) and a 32-bit Version
-(see {{version}}).
+The connection ID lengths are followed by a two connection IDs.  The connection

remove "a"

In draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md:

>  
-A QUIC packet with a long header has two fixed fields immediately following the
-first octet: a 64-bit Connection ID (see {{connection-id}}) and a 32-bit Version
-(see {{version}}).
+The connection ID lengths are followed by a two connection IDs.  The connection
+ID associated with the recipient of the packet (the Destination Connection ID)
+is followed by the connection ID associated with the sender of the packet (the
+Source Connection ID).

maybe s/"associated with"/"chosen by"/

In draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md:

>  
-A QUIC packet with a long header has two fixed fields immediately following the
-first octet: a 64-bit Connection ID (see {{connection-id}}) and a 32-bit Version
-(see {{version}}).
+The connection ID lengths are followed by a two connection IDs.  The connection
+ID associated with the recipient of the packet (the Destination Connection ID)
+is followed by the connection ID associated with the sender of the packet (the
+Source Connection ID).
+
+After both Connection IDs, a 32-bit Version (see {{version}}) is followed by a

"After" seems a bit odd. How about "The Connection IDs are followed by a 32-bit Version (see {{version}}) and a version-specific payload."

In draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md:

> @@ -178,16 +191,17 @@ version-specific semantics are marked with an X.
 
 A QUIC packet with a short header has the high bit of the first octet set to 0.
 
-A QUIC packet with a short header includes an optional connection ID and no
-version field.  The second bit of that octet (that is, 0x40) determines whether
-the connection ID is present.  If the second bit is cleared, a 64-bit connection
-ID immediately follows the first octet.  If the second bit is set, the remainder
-of the packet has version-specific semantics.
+A QUIC packet with a short header includes a Destination Connection ID.  The

I would call that out explicitly. "an optional Destination Connection ID" should do the job.

In draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md:

> @@ -257,9 +272,12 @@ Version Negotiation packets do not use integrity or confidentiality protection.
 A specific QUIC version might authenticate the packet as part of its connection
 establishment process.
 
-The Connection ID field in a Version Negotiation packet contains the Connection
-ID from the packet that was received.  This provides some protection against
-injection of Version Negotiation packets by off-path attackers.
+The Connection ID fields in a Version Negotiation packet contain the Connection
+ID values from the packet that was received by the server, inverted to ensure
+correct routing of the packet toward the client based on the Destination
+Connection ID.  Echoing the value of the client's Destination Connection ID in

I would remove "based on the Destination Connection ID", since it's not clear which packet's Destination ID is being mentioned (and it is unnecessary).

In draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md:

> @@ -257,9 +272,12 @@ Version Negotiation packets do not use integrity or confidentiality protection.
 A specific QUIC version might authenticate the packet as part of its connection
 establishment process.
 
-The Connection ID field in a Version Negotiation packet contains the Connection
-ID from the packet that was received.  This provides some protection against
-injection of Version Negotiation packets by off-path attackers.
+The Connection ID fields in a Version Negotiation packet contain the Connection
+ID values from the packet that was received by the server, inverted to ensure
+correct routing of the packet toward the client based on the Destination
+Connection ID.  Echoing the value of the client's Destination Connection ID in
+the Source Connection ID field can provide some protection against injection of
+Version Negotiation packets by off-path attackers.

Doesn't echoing the client's Source Connection ID provide this protection? Echoing either field provides this protection, doesn't it?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -163,7 +163,8 @@ Connection:
 
 Connection ID:

s/Connection ID/Destination Connection ID/

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -163,7 +163,8 @@ Connection:
 
 Connection ID:
 
-: The 64-bit unsigned number used as an identifier for a QUIC connection.
+: An opaque identifier that is used to identify a QUIC connection.  Each

This sentence sounds incomplete now. How about "to identify a QUIC connection at an endpoint"?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -404,26 +401,44 @@ Long Packet Type:
   indicate one of 128 packet types.  The types specified for this version are
   listed in {{long-packet-types}}.
 
-Connection ID:
+DCIL and SCIL:
+
+: Octet 1 contains the lengths of the two connection ID fields that follow it.
+  These lengths are encoded as two 4-bit unsigned integers. The Destination
+  Connection ID Length (DCIL) field occupies the 4 high bits of the octet and
+  the Source Connection ID Length (SCIL) field occupies the 4 low bits of the
+  octet.  An encoded length of 0 indicates that the connection ID is also 0
+  octets in length.  Non-zero encoded lengths are increased by 3 to get the full
+  length of the connection ID, producing a length between 4 and 18 octets
+  inclusive.  For example, an octet with the value 0x50 describes an 8 octet

8-octet

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -404,26 +401,44 @@ Long Packet Type:
   indicate one of 128 packet types.  The types specified for this version are
   listed in {{long-packet-types}}.
 
-Connection ID:
+DCIL and SCIL:
+
+: Octet 1 contains the lengths of the two connection ID fields that follow it.
+  These lengths are encoded as two 4-bit unsigned integers. The Destination
+  Connection ID Length (DCIL) field occupies the 4 high bits of the octet and
+  the Source Connection ID Length (SCIL) field occupies the 4 low bits of the
+  octet.  An encoded length of 0 indicates that the connection ID is also 0
+  octets in length.  Non-zero encoded lengths are increased by 3 to get the full
+  length of the connection ID, producing a length between 4 and 18 octets
+  inclusive.  For example, an octet with the value 0x50 describes an 8 octet
+  Destination Connection ID and a zero octet Source Connection ID.

zero-octet

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-: Octets 1 through 8 contain the connection ID. {{connection-id}} describes the
-  use of this field in more detail.
+Destination Connection ID:
+
+: The Destination Connection ID field starts at octet 2 and is either 0 octets
+  in length or between 4 and 18 octets. {{connection-id}} describes the use of
+  this field in more detail.
+
+Source Connection ID:
+
+: The Source Connection ID field starts at octet 2 and is either 0 octets in

+1. I would remove the starting position.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -577,12 +589,20 @@ The layout of a Version Negotiation packet is:
 ~~~
 {: #version-negotiation-format title="Version Negotiation Packet"}
 
-The value in the Unused field is selected randomly by the server. The Connection
-ID field echoes the corresponding value from the triggering client packet.  This
-allows clients some assurance that the server received the packet and that the
-Version Negotiation packet is in fact from the server.  The Version field MUST
-be set to 0x00000000.  The remainder of the Version Negotiation packet is a list
-of 32-bit versions which the server supports.
+The value in the Unused field is selected randomly by the server.
+
+The server MUST include the value from the Source Connection ID field of the
+packet it receives in the Destination Connection ID field.  The value for Source
+Connection ID MUST be copied from the Destination Connection ID of the received
+packet, which is initially randomly selected by a client.  Echoing both
+connection IDs gives clients some assurance that the server received the packet
+and that the Version Negotiation packet was not generated by an off-path
+attacker.

This text is great. Can you use this text above in the VN section of the invariants draft?

In draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md:

> @@ -257,9 +272,12 @@ Version Negotiation packets do not use integrity or confidentiality protection.
 A specific QUIC version might authenticate the packet as part of its connection
 establishment process.
 
-The Connection ID field in a Version Negotiation packet contains the Connection
-ID from the packet that was received.  This provides some protection against
-injection of Version Negotiation packets by off-path attackers.
+The Connection ID fields in a Version Negotiation packet contain the Connection
+ID values from the packet that was received by the server, inverted to ensure
+correct routing of the packet toward the client based on the Destination
+Connection ID.  Echoing the value of the client's Destination Connection ID in
+the Source Connection ID field can provide some protection against injection of
+Version Negotiation packets by off-path attackers.

The text in the VN Packet section of the transport draft is great. I would simply use that same text here.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -614,10 +634,14 @@ off-path attackers.
 The Initial packet uses long headers with a type value of 0x7F.  It carries the
 first cryptographic handshake message sent by the client.
 
-The client populates the connection ID field with randomly selected values,
-unless it has received a packet from the server.  If the client has received a
-packet from the server, the connection ID field uses the value provided by the
-server.
+If the client has not previously received a Retry packet from the server, it
+populates the Destination Connection ID field with a randomly selected value.

Is this a single random value for all packets until one is received from teh server? Or is it ok for the client to send a new random in each packet?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -678,8 +707,10 @@ A Handshake packet uses long headers with a type value of 0x7D.  It is
 used to carry acknowledgments and cryptographic handshake messages from the
 server and client.
 
-The connection ID field in a Handshake packet contains a connection ID
-that is chosen by the server (see {{connection-id}}).
+The Destination Connection ID field in a Handshake packet contains a connection
+ID that is chosen by the recipient of the packet; the Source Connection ID

The server's Initial packet also carries a dest connection ID chosen by the client, right?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 The client can send 0-RTT packets after receiving a Handshake packet
 ({{packet-handshake}}), if that packet does not complete the handshake.  Even if
 the client receives a different connection ID in the Handshake packet, it MUST
-continue to use the connection ID selected by the client for 0-RTT packets, see
+continue to use the same Destination Connection ID for 0-RTT packets, see

What should a receiver do if a subsequent packet is received with a different source connection ID?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -Once the client receives the connection ID that the server has chosen, it MUST
-use it for all subsequent Handshake ({{packet-handshake}}) and 1-RTT
-({{packet-protected}}) packets but not for 0-RTT packets ({{packet-protected}}).
-
-Server's Version Negotiation ({{packet-version}}) and Retry ({{packet-retry}})
-packets MUST use connection ID selected by the client.
+A connection ID is used to ensure consistent routing of packets.  The long
+header contains two connection IDs: the Destination Connection ID is chosen by
+the recipient of the packet and is used to provide consistent routing; the
+Source Connection ID is used to set the Destination Connection ID used by a
+peer.
+
+During the handshake, packets with the long header are used to establish the
+Destination Connection ID that each endpoint uses.  Each endpoint uses the
+Source Connection ID field to specify the connection ID that is used in the
+Destination Connection ID field of packets being sent to them.  Upon receiving a

remove "field"

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -
-Once the client receives the connection ID that the server has chosen, it MUST
-use it for all subsequent Handshake ({{packet-handshake}}) and 1-RTT
-({{packet-protected}}) packets but not for 0-RTT packets ({{packet-protected}}).
-
-Server's Version Negotiation ({{packet-version}}) and Retry ({{packet-retry}})
-packets MUST use connection ID selected by the client.
+A connection ID is used to ensure consistent routing of packets.  The long
+header contains two connection IDs: the Destination Connection ID is chosen by
+the recipient of the packet and is used to provide consistent routing; the
+Source Connection ID is used to set the Destination Connection ID used by a
+peer.
+
+During the handshake, packets with the long header are used to establish the
+Destination Connection ID that each endpoint uses.  Each endpoint uses the
+Source Connection ID field to specify the connection ID that is used in the

remove "field"

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +packet, each endpoint sets the Destination Connection ID it sends to match the
+value of the Source Connection ID that they receive.
+
+During the handshake, an endpoint might receive multiple packets with the long
+header, and thus be given multiple opportunities to update the Destination
+Connection ID it sends.  A client MUST only change the value it sends in the
+Destination Connection ID field in response to the first packet of each type
+(Retry, or Handshake) that it receives; a server MUST only change its value
+based on an Initial packet.  This avoids problems that might arise from
+stateless processing of multiple Initial packets producing different connection
+IDs.
+
+Short headers only include the Destination Connection ID and omit the explicit
+length.
+
+The very first packet sent by a client client includes a random value for

too many clients

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +the recipient of the packet and is used to provide consistent routing; the
+Source Connection ID is used to set the Destination Connection ID used by a
+peer.
+
+During the handshake, packets with the long header are used to establish the
+Destination Connection ID that each endpoint uses.  Each endpoint uses the
+Source Connection ID field to specify the connection ID that is used in the
+Destination Connection ID field of packets being sent to them.  Upon receiving a
+packet, each endpoint sets the Destination Connection ID it sends to match the
+value of the Source Connection ID that they receive.
+
+During the handshake, an endpoint might receive multiple packets with the long
+header, and thus be given multiple opportunities to update the Destination
+Connection ID it sends.  A client MUST only change the value it sends in the
+Destination Connection ID field in response to the first packet of each type
+(Retry, or Handshake) that it receives; a server MUST only change its value

+1. I can't reason about packet type changes easily, but largest packet number seems robust.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1856,9 +1899,23 @@ following layout:
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
 ~~~
 
-A server copies the connection ID field from the packet that triggers the
-stateless reset.  A server omits the connection ID if explicitly configured to
-do so, or if the client packet did not include a connection ID.
+This design ensures that a stateless reset packet is - to the extent possible -
+indistinguishable from a regular packet.
+
+A server generates a random 18-octet Destination Connection ID field.  For a
+client that requires that the server include a connection ID, this will mean
+that this value differs from previous packets with two consequences:

too many "that"s... and this is a bit of a run-on sentence.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1856,9 +1899,23 @@ following layout:
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
 ~~~
 
-A server copies the connection ID field from the packet that triggers the
-stateless reset.  A server omits the connection ID if explicitly configured to
-do so, or if the client packet did not include a connection ID.
+This design ensures that a stateless reset packet is - to the extent possible -
+indistinguishable from a regular packet.
+
+A server generates a random 18-octet Destination Connection ID field.  For a
+client that requires that the server include a connection ID, this will mean
+that this value differs from previous packets with two consequences:
+
+* The packet might not reach the client.  If the Destination Connection ID is
+  critical for routing toward the client, then this packet could be incorrectly
+  routed and dropped.  This causes the stateless reset to be ineffective in

remove "and dropped".

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1856,9 +1899,23 @@ following layout:
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
 ~~~
 
-A server copies the connection ID field from the packet that triggers the
-stateless reset.  A server omits the connection ID if explicitly configured to
-do so, or if the client packet did not include a connection ID.
+This design ensures that a stateless reset packet is - to the extent possible -
+indistinguishable from a regular packet.
+
+A server generates a random 18-octet Destination Connection ID field.  For a
+client that requires that the server include a connection ID, this will mean
+that this value differs from previous packets with two consequences:
+
+* The packet might not reach the client.  If the Destination Connection ID is
+  critical for routing toward the client, then this packet could be incorrectly
+  routed and dropped.  This causes the stateless reset to be ineffective in
+  causing errors to be quickly detected and recovered.  In this case, clients
+  will need to rely on other methods such as timers to detect that the

"other methods - such as timers - to detect"

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -do so, or if the client packet did not include a connection ID.
+This design ensures that a stateless reset packet is - to the extent possible -
+indistinguishable from a regular packet.
+
+A server generates a random 18-octet Destination Connection ID field.  For a
+client that requires that the server include a connection ID, this will mean
+that this value differs from previous packets with two consequences:
+
+* The packet might not reach the client.  If the Destination Connection ID is
+  critical for routing toward the client, then this packet could be incorrectly
+  routed and dropped.  This causes the stateless reset to be ineffective in
+  causing errors to be quickly detected and recovered.  In this case, clients
+  will need to rely on other methods such as timers to detect that the
+  connection has failed.
+
+* The connection ID can be used by entities other than the client to identify

"The randomly generated connection ID"

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +This design ensures that a stateless reset packet is - to the extent possible -
+indistinguishable from a regular packet.
+
+A server generates a random 18-octet Destination Connection ID field.  For a
+client that requires that the server include a connection ID, this will mean
+that this value differs from previous packets with two consequences:
+
+* The packet might not reach the client.  If the Destination Connection ID is
+  critical for routing toward the client, then this packet could be incorrectly
+  routed and dropped.  This causes the stateless reset to be ineffective in
+  causing errors to be quickly detected and recovered.  In this case, clients
+  will need to rely on other methods such as timers to detect that the
+  connection has failed.
+
+* The connection ID can be used by entities other than the client to identify
+  this as a potential stateless reset.  A server that occasionally uses

Capitalize Stateless Reset

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2350,15 +2401,28 @@ Sequence:
   the value selected during the handshake comes immediately before the first
   value that a server can send.
 
+Length:
+
+: An 8-bit unsigned integer containing the length of the connection ID.  Values
+  less than 4 and greater than 18 are invalid and MUST be treated as a
+  connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.

It's a bit unfortunate that this length is a different encoding than DSIL and SSIL. Nothing to do about it I suppose.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 Stateless Reset Token:
 
 : A 128-bit value that will be used to for a stateless reset when the associated
   connection ID is used (see {{stateless-reset}}).
 
+An endpoint MUST NOT send this frame if it currently requires that its peer send
+packets with a zero-length Destination Connection ID.  Changing the length of a
+connection ID to or from zero-length makes it very difficult to identify when
+the new connection ID was used.  An endpoint that is sending packets with a a

I don't understand this sentence. Which is the "new connection ID"? I'm inclined to remove this sentence entirely.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 Stateless Reset Token:
 
 : A 128-bit value that will be used to for a stateless reset when the associated
   connection ID is used (see {{stateless-reset}}).
 
+An endpoint MUST NOT send this frame if it currently requires that its peer send
+packets with a zero-length Destination Connection ID.  Changing the length of a
+connection ID to or from zero-length makes it very difficult to identify when
+the new connection ID was used.  An endpoint that is sending packets with a a

too many articles ("with a a")

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +the recipient of the packet and is used to provide consistent routing; the
+Source Connection ID is used to set the Destination Connection ID used by a
+peer.
+
+During the handshake, packets with the long header are used to establish the
+Destination Connection ID that each endpoint uses.  Each endpoint uses the
+Source Connection ID field to specify the connection ID that is used in the
+Destination Connection ID field of packets being sent to them.  Upon receiving a
+packet, each endpoint sets the Destination Connection ID it sends to match the
+value of the Source Connection ID that they receive.
+
+During the handshake, an endpoint might receive multiple packets with the long
+header, and thus be given multiple opportunities to update the Destination
+Connection ID it sends.  A client MUST only change the value it sends in the
+Destination Connection ID field in response to the first packet of each type
+(Retry, or Handshake) that it receives; a server MUST only change its value

There is a discussion on list about version negotiation attacks by man-on-the-side. One proposed solution was to queue some packets and wait for the best outcome. I'm not so sure what is best, but it overlaps with the considerations in the above text and comments.

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@mikkelfj commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +(Retry, or Handshake) that it receives; a server MUST only change its value
+based on an Initial packet.  This avoids problems that might arise from
+stateless processing of multiple Initial packets producing different connection
+IDs.
+
+Short headers only include the Destination Connection ID and omit the explicit
+length.
+
+The very first packet sent by a client client includes a random value for
+Destination Connection ID.  The same value MUST be used for all 0-RTT packets
+sent on that connection ({{packet-protected}}).  This randomized value is used
+to determine the handshake packet protection keys (see Section 5.2.2 of
+{{QUIC-TLS}}).
+
+A Version Negotiation ({{packet-version}}) packet MUST use both connection IDs
+selected by the client, inverted to ensure correct routing toward the client.

inverted -> swapped, mirrored, reflected?

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@siyengar commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md:

> @@ -178,16 +192,17 @@ version-specific semantics are marked with an X.
 
 A QUIC packet with a short header has the high bit of the first octet set to 0.
 
-A QUIC packet with a short header includes an optional connection ID and no
-version field.  The second bit of that octet (that is, 0x40) determines whether
-the connection ID is present.  If the second bit is cleared, a 64-bit connection
-ID immediately follows the first octet.  If the second bit is set, the remainder
-of the packet has version-specific semantics.
+A QUIC packet with a short header includes a Destination Connection ID.  The
+short header does not include the Connection ID Lengths, Source Connection ID,
+or Version fields.

Two sentences like

"A load balancer may uses variable length connection IDs for different clients in order to grease the length. Even though the short header does not have an explicit length field for the connection ID, a load balancer could encode the length of the connection ID in the connection ID with it's own encoding scheme"

might be useful to clarify the intention of not having length fields in the short headers

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For instance, an endpoint may pad a packet carrying a +PATH_CHALLENGE for PMTU discovery, or an endpoint may bundle a PATH_RESPONSE +with its own PATH_CHALLENGE. + + +#### Initiation + +To initiate path validation, an endpoint sends a PATH_CHALLENGE frame containing +a payload that is hard to guess on the path to be validated. + +An endpoint MAY send additional PATH_CHALLENGE frames to handle packet loss. An +endpoint SHOULD NOT send a PATH_CHALLENGE more frequently than it would an +Initial packet, ensuring that connection migration is no more load on a new path +than establishing a new connection. + +The endpoint MUST use fresh random data in every PATH_CHALLENGE frame so that it I've added "random" to the sentence above -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +frames, as appropriate.  For instance, an endpoint may pad a packet carrying a
+PATH_CHALLENGE for PMTU discovery, or an endpoint may bundle a PATH_RESPONSE
+with its own PATH_CHALLENGE.
+
+
+#### Initiation
+
+To initiate path validation, an endpoint sends a PATH_CHALLENGE frame containing
+a payload that is hard to guess on the path to be validated.
+
+An endpoint MAY send additional PATH_CHALLENGE frames to handle packet loss.  An
+endpoint SHOULD NOT send a PATH_CHALLENGE more frequently than it would an
+Initial packet, ensuring that connection migration is no more load on a new path
+than establishing a new connection.
+
+The endpoint MUST use fresh random data in every PATH_CHALLENGE frame so that it

I've added "random" to the sentence above

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Thanks, Eric, PTAL. > +payload as the PATH_CHALLENGE frame. + + +#### Abandonment + +The endpoint SHOULD abandon path validation after sending some number of +PATH_CHALLENGE frames or after some time has passed. When setting this timer, +implementations are cautioned that the new path could have a longer round-trip +time than the original. Again, to avoid excessive network load, an endpoint +SHOULD NOT send more PATH_CHALLENGE frames than it would a client INITIAL, +ensuring that connection migration is no more load on a new path than +establishing a new connection. + +The endpoint may receive packets containing other frames during this period, but +a PATH_RESPONSE frame with appropriate data is required for the path validation +to succeed. I meant to say other packets might be received on the new path, but they are not adequate for validation. Fixed up sentence. > +to succeed. + + +### Initiating Connection Migration {#initiating-migration} + +A client can migrate a connection to a new local address by sending all packets +from the new local address. Since the server's address is validated during +connection establishment, receiving acknowledgments for this data serves as +proof of the server's reachability from the new address. Note that since +acknowledgments may be received on any path, return reachability on the new path +is not established. To establish return reachability on the new path, a client +MAY concurrently initiate path validation {{migrate-validate}} on the new path. + +If it has the opportunity, a client MAY probe for server reachability from a +new local address using path validation {{migrate-validate}} prior to migrating +the connection to it. Failure of path validation simply means that the new done > -An endpoint MUST validate that its peer can receive packets at the new address -before sending any significant quantity of data to that address, or it risks -being used for denial of service. See {{migrate-validate}} for details. +Receiving a packet from a new client address indicates that the client may be +immediately migrating if + +* the packet is a "non-probing" packet. That is, it contains a frame other than +PATH_CHALLENGE, PATH_RESPONSE, or PADDING; and + +* the packet carries a packet number that is the largest seen thus far. + +Upon receiving such a packet, the server MUST abandon any path validation it is +performing with other addresses on the expectation that those validations are +likely to fail. Abandoning path validation primarily means ceasing subsequent +transmissions of the PATH_CHALLENGE frame. An endpoint MUST ignore any +subsequently received PATH_RESPONSE frames from abandoned addresses. Hm. I don't think we need a MUST ignore here. Changing to a MAY. > +After verifying a new client address, the server SHOULD send new address +validation tokens ({{address-validation}}) to the client if the current ones +will not be adequate to validate the new client address. + + +### Handling Address Spoofing by a Client {#address-spoofing} + +It is possible that the client is spoofing its source address to cause the +server to send excessive amounts of data to an unwilling host. If the server +sends significantly more data than the client, connection migration might be +used to amplify the volume of data that an attacker can generate toward a +victim. + +Thus, on receiving and decrypting a packet from an unvalidated address, the +server MUST immediately validate the client's new address to confirm the +client's possession of the new address. Good point. I've rephrased some things here and added an explicit sentence calling out that a server SHOULD NOT apply this limit when it is not validating the client address. > +validation of the address of the spurious migration to be abandoned. + + +### Loss Detection and Congestion Control + +The capacity available on the new path might not be the same as the old path. +Packets sent on the old path SHOULD NOT contribute to the state of the +congestion control and RTT estimation on the new path. If it is using a single +congestion controller and round-trip time estimator, the client SHOULD reset +them prior to sending any non-probing packets from a new local address. + +After successful validation of the client's new address, the server SHOULD reset +its congestion controller and round-trip time estimator prior to sending any +further non-probing packets. + +An endpoint MUST NOT restore its send rate unless it is reasonably sure that the fixed up sentence too -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1012#pullrequestreview-102157885 ----==_mimepart_5aa09d5d5ab0f_46e02ac846a5ced4539cd Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

Thanks, Eric, PTAL.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +payload as the PATH_CHALLENGE frame.
+
+
+#### Abandonment
+
+The endpoint SHOULD abandon path validation after sending some number of
+PATH_CHALLENGE frames or after some time has passed.  When setting this timer,
+implementations are cautioned that the new path could have a longer round-trip
+time than the original.  Again, to avoid excessive network load, an endpoint
+SHOULD NOT send more PATH_CHALLENGE frames than it would a client INITIAL,
+ensuring that connection migration is no more load on a new path than
+establishing a new connection.
+
+The endpoint may receive packets containing other frames during this period, but
+a PATH_RESPONSE frame with appropriate data is required for the path validation
+to succeed.

I meant to say other packets might be received on the new path, but they are not adequate for validation. Fixed up sentence.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +to succeed.
+
+
+### Initiating Connection Migration {#initiating-migration}
+
+A client can migrate a connection to a new local address by sending all packets
+from the new local address.  Since the server's address is validated during
+connection establishment, receiving acknowledgments for this data serves as
+proof of the server's reachability from the new address.  Note that since
+acknowledgments may be received on any path, return reachability on the new path
+is not established. To establish return reachability on the new path, a client
+MAY concurrently initiate path validation {{migrate-validate}} on the new path.
+
+If it has the opportunity, a client MAY probe for server reachability from a
+new local address using path validation {{migrate-validate}} prior to migrating
+the connection to it.  Failure of path validation simply means that the new

done

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -An endpoint MUST validate that its peer can receive packets at the new address
-before sending any significant quantity of data to that address, or it risks
-being used for denial of service.  See {{migrate-validate}} for details.
+Receiving a packet from a new client address indicates that the client may be
+immediately migrating if
+
+* the packet is a "non-probing" packet. That is, it contains a frame other than
+PATH_CHALLENGE, PATH_RESPONSE, or PADDING; and
+
+* the packet carries a packet number that is the largest seen thus far.
+
+Upon receiving such a packet, the server MUST abandon any path validation it is
+performing with other addresses on the expectation that those validations are
+likely to fail.  Abandoning path validation primarily means ceasing subsequent
+transmissions of the PATH_CHALLENGE frame.  An endpoint MUST ignore any
+subsequently received PATH_RESPONSE frames from abandoned addresses.

Hm. I don't think we need a MUST ignore here. Changing to a MAY.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +After verifying a new client address, the server SHOULD send new address
+validation tokens ({{address-validation}}) to the client if the current ones
+will not be adequate to validate the new client address.
+
+
+### Handling Address Spoofing by a Client {#address-spoofing}
+
+It is possible that the client is spoofing its source address to cause the
+server to send excessive amounts of data to an unwilling host.  If the server
+sends significantly more data than the client, connection migration might be
+used to amplify the volume of data that an attacker can generate toward a
+victim.
+
+Thus, on receiving and decrypting a packet from an unvalidated address, the
+server MUST immediately validate the client's new address to confirm the
+client's possession of the new address.

Good point. I've rephrased some things here and added an explicit sentence calling out that a server SHOULD NOT apply this limit when it is not validating the client address.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +validation of the address of the spurious migration to be abandoned.
+
+
+### Loss Detection and Congestion Control
+
+The capacity available on the new path might not be the same as the old path.
+Packets sent on the old path SHOULD NOT contribute to the state of the
+congestion control and RTT estimation on the new path. If it is using a single
+congestion controller and round-trip time estimator, the client SHOULD reset
+them prior to sending any non-probing packets from a new local address.
+
+After successful validation of the client's new address, the server SHOULD reset
+its congestion controller and round-trip time estimator prior to sending any
+further non-probing packets.
+
+An endpoint MUST NOT restore its send rate unless it is reasonably sure that the

fixed up sentence too

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Small editorial nits, but the content LGTM. > @@ -1477,35 +1481,240 @@ connection if the integrity check fails with a PROTOCOL_VIOLATION error code. ## Connection Migration {#migration} I'm not seeing the change. > ### Path Validation {#migrate-validate} -Path validation is used by a server to confirm the client's ownership of a -new address and by a client to establish reachability to the server from a new -local address. - -To start path validation, an endpoint sends a PATH_CHALLENGE frame containing -a payload that is hard to guess on the path to be validated. +Path validation is used by the migrating endpoint to verify reachability of +its peer from a new local address. Path validation is also used by the peer to nit:s/its/the or a > + +Additionally, the PATH_RESPONSE frame MUST be received on the same local address +from which the corresponding PATH_CHALLENGE was sent. If a PATH_RESPONSE frame +is received on a different local address than the one from which the +PATH_CHALLENGE was sent, path validation is considered to have failed, even if +the data matches that sent in the PATH_CHALLENGE. Thus, the endpoint considers +the path to be valid when a PATH_RESPONSE frame is received on the same path +with the same payload as the PATH_CHALLENGE frame. + + +#### Abandonment + +An endpoint SHOULD abandon path validation after sending some number of +PATH_CHALLENGE frames or after some time has passed. When setting this timer, +implementations are cautioned that the new path could have a longer round-trip +time than the original. Again, to avoid excessive network load, an endpoint nit: "Again," is unnecessary. > @@ -3599,7 +3629,7 @@ entire round trip. For smooth operation of the congestion controller, it is generally considered best to not let the sender go into quiescence if avoidable. To avoid blocking a sender, and to reasonably account for the possibiity of loss, a receiver should -send a MAX_DATA or MAX_STREAM_DATA frame at least two roundtrips before it +send a MAX_DATA or MAX_STREAM_DATA frame at least two round trips before it nit: Should it be round-trips as it is elsewhere? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1012#pullrequestreview-101958639 ----==_mimepart_5aa0a1dcef8bd_708a3ff355f90f2810739e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@ianswett approved this pull request.

Small editorial nits, but the content LGTM.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1477,35 +1481,240 @@ connection if the integrity check fails with a PROTOCOL_VIOLATION error code.
 
 ## Connection Migration {#migration}

I'm not seeing the change.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 
 ### Path Validation {#migrate-validate}
 
-Path validation is used by a server to confirm the client's ownership of a
-new address and by a client to establish reachability to the server from a new
-local address.
-
-To start path validation, an endpoint sends a PATH_CHALLENGE frame containing
-a payload that is hard to guess on the path to be validated.
+Path validation is used by the migrating endpoint to verify reachability of
+its peer from a new local address. Path validation is also used by the peer to

nit:s/its/the or a

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+Additionally, the PATH_RESPONSE frame MUST be received on the same local address
+from which the corresponding PATH_CHALLENGE was sent.  If a PATH_RESPONSE frame
+is received on a different local address than the one from which the
+PATH_CHALLENGE was sent, path validation is considered to have failed, even if
+the data matches that sent in the PATH_CHALLENGE.  Thus, the endpoint considers
+the path to be valid when a PATH_RESPONSE frame is received on the same path
+with the same payload as the PATH_CHALLENGE frame.
+
+
+#### Abandonment
+
+An endpoint SHOULD abandon path validation after sending some number of
+PATH_CHALLENGE frames or after some time has passed.  When setting this timer,
+implementations are cautioned that the new path could have a longer round-trip
+time than the original.  Again, to avoid excessive network load, an endpoint

nit: "Again," is unnecessary.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3599,7 +3629,7 @@ entire round trip.
 For smooth operation of the congestion controller, it is generally considered
 best to not let the sender go into quiescence if avoidable.  To avoid blocking a
 sender, and to reasonably account for the possibiity of loss, a receiver should
-send a MAX_DATA or MAX_STREAM_DATA frame at least two roundtrips before it
+send a MAX_DATA or MAX_STREAM_DATA frame at least two round trips before it

nit: Should it be round-trips as it is elsewhere?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
-|                                                               |
-+                     [Connection ID (64)]                      +
-|                                                               |
+|                Destination Connection ID (0..148)           ...

Maybe this needs be corrected to Destination Connection ID (0/32..144)?

I see the same issue in the definition of the Stateless Reset (it says 148) and also in short header definition in the invariants draft.

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function ag-replace --description "replace-global []"
# backs up changed files in *.bak
if set -q $argv[3]
ag -l $argv[1] $argv[3] | xargs sed -i -e "s/$argv[1]/$argv[2]/g"
else
ag -l $argv[1] | xargs sed -i -e "s/$argv[1]/$argv[2]/g"
end
end

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In draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md:

> @@ -178,16 +192,17 @@ version-specific semantics are marked with an X.
 
 A QUIC packet with a short header has the high bit of the first octet set to 0.
 
-A QUIC packet with a short header includes an optional connection ID and no
-version field.  The second bit of that octet (that is, 0x40) determines whether
-the connection ID is present.  If the second bit is cleared, a 64-bit connection
-ID immediately follows the first octet.  If the second bit is set, the remainder
-of the packet has version-specific semantics.
+A QUIC packet with a short header includes a Destination Connection ID.  The
+short header does not include the Connection ID Lengths, Source Connection ID,
+or Version fields.

This seems potentially helpful to me.

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What shell is this?

Why not simply perl -pi s/old/new/ some/files* ?

See perlrun(1)

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it's a fish shell - but it was more to name the args.
I just run ag-replace from to
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For completion, here is the function to clean up the backup files after replace

function ag-clean
    rm -R **-e
end

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----==_mimepart_5aa149fe799bd_42963fc85de70f301968f0-- From nobody Thu Mar 8 12:44:27 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9B48127876 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2018 12:44:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0jJjpnKMcaMC for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2018 12:44:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from o6.sgmail.github.com (o6.sgmail.github.com [192.254.113.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 137CD1271DF for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2018 12:44:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=qLGBXQ1oqsOf0E0zzXanbyB90d0=; b=YG+MBv0mO+S2hl6h v2jTqbQNOOdc1SUGFQGZJbN9QF6ZlDSXdq1f6W4OKSfV8A9MVezpZrbSsjrKq3o/ bNXHgz0+cO0iwGabBsqp1zxFbxWX4dAGIwarvICRt1YLcATZCgABseJqdKiQbDtS oChrPJyjssUizZqHLzYxd1vob+0= Received: by filter0816p1mdw1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0816p1mdw1-11197-5AA1A0A6-D 2018-03-08 20:44:22.366061203 +0000 UTC Received: from smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) by ismtpd0047p1mdw1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id 4UHhQRpRQHeNR1lx8rU_og for ; Thu, 08 Mar 2018 20:44:22.315 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2018 20:44:22 +0000 (UTC) From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] A more complete connection migration (#1012) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aa1a0a61ba4c_22442ae64546aec8103980"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak2HXkcBOlpO/FKBeJ9sJ8CPwoqs03eFZ0Qyr3 bFtdmOYKpqIr5zz8B9Cd/rmTCpumF1mCm+dNFbCtG2NhUQDVZ9lmQHmN4XX5gOhhyv1VXBlhtMxnVK 8LYEY9owEQQ95O5BI5RpuDdAMqtYwzaj49qffZB/lEc66OgeJ8K79tayG8ibCM1WjluHvidjAXEXTV Q= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2018 20:44:26 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aa1a0a61ba4c_22442ae64546aec8103980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MikeBishop commented on this pull request. > +Additionally, the PATH_RESPONSE frame MUST be received on the same local address +from which the corresponding PATH_CHALLENGE was sent. If a PATH_RESPONSE frame +is received on a different local address than the one from which the +PATH_CHALLENGE was sent, path validation is considered to have failed, even if +the data matches that sent in the PATH_CHALLENGE. Thus, the endpoint considers +the path to be valid when a PATH_RESPONSE frame is received on the same path +with the same payload as the PATH_CHALLENGE frame. + + +#### Abandonment + +An endpoint SHOULD abandon path validation after sending some number of +PATH_CHALLENGE frames or after some time has passed. When setting this timer, +implementations are cautioned that the new path could have a longer round-trip +time than the original. Again, to avoid excessive network load, an endpoint +SHOULD NOT send more PATH_CHALLENGE frames than it would a client INITIAL, Same issue with "Initial" as at ~1519. BTW, double check that you actually need near-identical text both places? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1012#pullrequestreview-102451255 ----==_mimepart_5aa1a0a61ba4c_22442ae64546aec8103980 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +Additionally, the PATH_RESPONSE frame MUST be received on the same local address
+from which the corresponding PATH_CHALLENGE was sent.  If a PATH_RESPONSE frame
+is received on a different local address than the one from which the
+PATH_CHALLENGE was sent, path validation is considered to have failed, even if
+the data matches that sent in the PATH_CHALLENGE.  Thus, the endpoint considers
+the path to be valid when a PATH_RESPONSE frame is received on the same path
+with the same payload as the PATH_CHALLENGE frame.
+
+
+#### Abandonment
+
+An endpoint SHOULD abandon path validation after sending some number of
+PATH_CHALLENGE frames or after some time has passed.  When setting this timer,
+implementations are cautioned that the new path could have a longer round-trip
+time than the original.  Again, to avoid excessive network load, an endpoint
+SHOULD NOT send more PATH_CHALLENGE frames than it would a client INITIAL,

Same issue with "Initial" as at ~1519. BTW, double check that you actually need near-identical text both places?

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#1012 says that a client SHOULD use one of its new CIDs when probing for server reachability on a new network, and the spec says that you MUST increment your packet number by the defined amount when you switch to the new CID. However, that leaves the next packet number somewhat ambiguous when the client continues to use the old connection for data in parallel.

So:

  • Client sends packets up through N on CCID1 on current path
  • Server has previously issued client CCID2, packet number gap P2
  • Client probes server with packet N+P2 and CCID2 on second path
  • Client sends more packets on current path with CCID1

What packet number do those packets use? Does the client continue with N+1? Does the client jump to N+P2+1, thereby providing a potential correlator between the paths? The client could side-step the issue by moving to N+P2+P3 and switching to CCID3 on the main path, but rotating CCIDs on the main path every time you probe on an alternate path might also leak information, as well as buring CIDs even more quickly.

Regardless, the spec should say what the client needs to do. (Or we just encrypt the packet number and get rid of the gap...?)

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This issue has wandered a bit. I think the core of it -- moving compr= ession messages off the HTTP control stream and replacing it with 4 unidi= rectional streams -- is fine.

There are separate issues open for framing on the control stream (#1122) and non-bl= ocking decoder (#1140).

I generated some data about the overhead of framing on the control str= eam, but I'll put that in the corresponding issue.

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In #1121= , there was some discussion about the value in framing header updates wit= hin HEADERS frames for two reasons: 1) the length field of headers means= that decoders do not need to handle partial instructions and 2) the deco= der uses the group of headers included in the HEADERS block as a signal f= or when to generate a HEADERS_ACK, which updates the encoder's view of de= coder state.

There was also discussion about the cost of this framing for table upd= ates. On my admittedly small sample size of 1 HAR file, adding 6 bytes o= f framing per control block didn't change the compression ratio. 251 req= uests across 7 origins generated 29 control stream updates, adding 174 by= tes of overhead. This doesn't include the QUIC framing since you pay tha= t cost even if you don't frame the header updates.

If we move updates off the control stream, per #1121, we can reduce the framing o= verhead further, at some cost to code reusability.

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= ----==_mimepart_5aa1abfd7e623_415e3f9ee5218f2c10712c-- From nobody Thu Mar 8 13:49:03 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C7251270B4 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2018 13:49:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2pUowekT1MVf for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2018 13:49:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from o6.sgmail.github.com (o6.sgmail.github.com [192.254.113.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9DABC124234 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2018 13:49:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=wQzisRHl/5GYr2ac9yHs/VPBaFo=; b=vfO5VBOzQW4XY+Wm Rlq5p3MCpfCSuHs0XQnfDa2qPyEgPnmUMLbeOPs6totgQOwW1BQPhGcAWtVeg4LS pR+Dg/zeHaXES0X0pMrRcQtr6RenFJSJMJEf8CSKShuEJBaLcKGqNxQ/fjIalU2w DOsnI/Q5vdn/NRLD2u9DQtJs6Y4= Received: by filter0853p1mdw1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0853p1mdw1-400-5AA1AFCB-2 2018-03-08 21:48:59.09328101 +0000 UTC Received: from smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) by ismtpd0004p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id KrW-lqgkSoaYA1QuuX062w for ; Thu, 08 Mar 2018 21:48:59.101 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2018 21:48:59 +0000 (UTC) From: afrind Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Split instruction space (#1123) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aa1afcb34e0_4fc53fba904b4f301106a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: afrind X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak0AXAuEyAxvsKLc0pTWunYv0L1i36Oa6SIjtY NyBP5fN7yo6bZCCMMjc0YFI6LdZC9ONaaPVt4VWCOZl7p0zLrIBJ/TMadTZibxOsJUHKz4OeKx+mPQ RxGzZeHHqIF60GcHl+kAg8/PWA5Fka6RDIi0ZWpk7JLEKwKHaUt4FucVmA== Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2018 21:49:02 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aa1afcb34e0_4fc53fba904b4f301106a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm not sure if it's better to have the discussion on the issue or the PR (or the list). In my implementation, decoding a QCRAM request block after Depends and an HPACK block are exactly the same code, except for throwing an error on invalid instructions. I think there's value in this code sharing that shouldn't be overlooked. My initial simulations of QCRAM show it to perform about as well as HPACK compression ratio wise - maybe .2% less. More efficient use of the bits by itself isn't enough to sway me to give up the code re-use. It's more concerning that an encoder can tell the decoder to do things that don't make sense - duplicate a static index, or try to update the table from a request stream. It's simple enough to add a few error checks in these cases though. This is an important decision that is gating a number of other improvements we need to make to the specification. Please weigh in with your thoughts of balancing code reuse vs small efficiency gains and fewer error checks. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1123#issuecomment-371636055 ----==_mimepart_5aa1afcb34e0_4fc53fba904b4f301106a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I'm not sure if it's better to have the discussion on the issue or the P= R (or the list).

In my implementation, decoding a QCRAM request block after Depends and a= n HPACK block are exactly the same code, except for throwing an error on in= valid instructions. I think there's value in this code sharing that should= n't be overlooked.

My initial simulations of QCRAM show it to perform about as well as HPAC= K compression ratio wise - maybe .2% less. More efficient use of the bits = by itself isn't enough to sway me to give up the code re-use. It's more co= ncerning that an encoder can tell the decoder to do things that don't make = sense - duplicate a static index, or try to update the table from a request= stream. It's simple enough to add a few error checks in these cases thoug= h.

This is an important decision that is gating a number of other improveme= nts we need to make to the specification. Please weigh in with your though= ts of balancing code reuse vs small efficiency gains and fewer error checks= .

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= ----==_mimepart_5aa1afcb34e0_4fc53fba904b4f301106a-- From nobody Thu Mar 8 14:03:00 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7779124234 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2018 14:02:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hPiG6a5p9p12 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2018 14:02:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 659A1126BF3 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2018 14:02:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2018 14:02:55 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1520546575; bh=ejwV/MlIwjxnivo334qRIDgkWG7OoRKqXpfx6iL0/aI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=lU9Wuxak9VijVjhkJT+KH6dXrObqapg3rHxwgbh432hJegVpu8187JPBhb9CWVz4b PO72mBnN9QE2DaXRT11h77WAnHOi97/cWUJ1wndJuUqct3xCbZyz8QIGPXsERvfsYX tqbxjqlAVypl8xE1TX+2/2Qu5n795jTBXOqFhHxs= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Split instruction space (#1123) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aa1b30f4334d_5dc22aee5cc56ec4145681"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2018 22:02:58 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aa1b30f4334d_5dc22aee5cc56ec4145681 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Not the PR -- issue or list. From the list, the savings are: - One byte saved for: - Insert w/ Name Reference from Dynamic (first 63 entries) - Insert w/o Name Reference (header names <32 octets long) - Literal w/ Name Reference from Dynamic (first 15 entries) - Literal w/o Name Reference (header names <16 octets long) - One byte lost for Indexed headers in indices 62-63 Those seem like fairly common instructions, so the savings are interesting, albeit perhaps not huge. You mention that the decode is the same, modulo the error checks; encode is going to be noticeably different, however, which means your library is already half-disjoint. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1123#issuecomment-371639867 ----==_mimepart_5aa1b30f4334d_5dc22aee5cc56ec4145681 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Not the PR -- issue or list. From the list, the savings are:

  • One byte saved for:
    • Insert w/ Name Reference from Dynamic (first 63 entries)
    • Insert w/o Name Reference (header names <32 octets long)
    • Literal w/ Name Reference from Dynamic (first 15 entries)
    • Literal w/o Name Reference (header names <16 octets long)
  • One byte lost for Indexed headers in indices 62-63

Those seem like fairly common instructions, so the savings are interes= ting, albeit perhaps not huge. You mention that the decode is the same, = modulo the error checks; encode is going to be noticeably different, howe= ver, which means your library is already half-disjoint.

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----==_mimepart_5aa1bbab5f7d3_75ee3fe8873aaf34229442-- From nobody Thu Mar 8 14:40:41 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F13012708C for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2018 14:40:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.606 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.606 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 98ilKfbiCAzQ for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2018 14:40:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from o3.sgmail.github.com (o3.sgmail.github.com [192.254.112.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B1D6A1205D3 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2018 14:40:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=jR2nwPqs8xHni+hghB7+NxnCK90=; b=WNaJsAYeoFkfqygN HWW8fRo49qw7PpcpZcrDLKMPoo4r3TK05Rm1RTxLm2GdCx22jgHvQN3Rwj5QNsoj PxnMyNK9k8PYhhMh1fCrJ6FTTa6fHNPn0MPV+LHT78mZbciO6qaUe7/RujybgZln ZYwsr95TwdRVqIe8RRbw7pKCx+U= Received: by filter0035p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0035p1las1-18457-5AA1BBE5-2F 2018-03-08 22:40:37.970490337 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0045p1mdw1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id G4V7usA0SZGydO4BFN-ZBQ for ; Thu, 08 Mar 2018 22:40:37.845 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2018 22:40:38 +0000 (UTC) From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC supports server push as described in [RFC7540], except where it doesn't (#1175) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aa1bbe58dcb4_4b502ad8a2ca8ec41734e3"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak0qSZwfMHs9P7srMJ6ohfoAt627jFtFz4Xzur v7xEfB70KqU80Tc2b8FJvCRaH5sEjRCJLobFgMTi76xvo6x3ANOYDVoH5c3dDzIRSRSWiY0+ssLGo9 jCD4nlqh4rwUk7wOmLrY4OEnmHY0mQNRmq+5jDw6YYFDYFznG8yO/G3y2EbP9RfHigEky/ocarpinx c= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2018 22:40:40 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aa1bbe58dcb4_4b502ad8a2ca8ec41734e3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In the process of discussing some design for HTTP/QUIC PUSH_PROMISE, I was reminded that promised requests must fit within certain criteria. I thought this was defined in the HTTP mapping but it is actually referenced back to RFC7540 section 8.2. There is nothing inherently wrong with that. (for the curious, the text I wanted says "Promised requests MUST be cacheable (see [RFC7231], Section 4.2.3), MUST be safe (see [RFC7231], Section 4.2.1), and MUST NOT include a request body.") However, having read HTTP/QUIC section 3.4 again it comes across as a bit awkward (hence the annoying issue title). I think this is just an editorial issue to reword and/or restructure the section a little. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1175 ----==_mimepart_5aa1bbe58dcb4_4b502ad8a2ca8ec41734e3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

In the process of discussing some design for HTTP/QUIC PUSH_PROMISE, I was reminded that promised requests must fit within certain criteria. I thought this was defined in the HTTP mapping but it is actually referenced back to RFC7540 section 8.2. There is nothing inherently wrong with that. (for the curious, the text I wanted says "Promised requests MUST be cacheable (see [RFC7231], Section 4.2.3), MUST be safe (see [RFC7231], Section 4.2.1), and MUST NOT include a request body.")

However, having read HTTP/QUIC section 3.4 again it comes across as a bit awkward (hence the annoying issue title).

I think this is just an editorial issue to reword and/or restructure the section a little.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1115,7 +1166,6 @@ language from Section 3 of {{!I-D.ietf-tls-tls13}}.
       initial_max_data(1),
       initial_max_stream_id_bidi(2),
       idle_timeout(3),
-      omit_connection_id(4),
       max_packet_size(5),
       stateless_reset_token(6),
       ack_delay_exponent(7),

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +the recipient of the packet and is used to provide consistent routing; the
+Source Connection ID is used to set the Destination Connection ID used by a
+peer.
+
+During the handshake, packets with the long header are used to establish the
+Destination Connection ID that each endpoint uses.  Each endpoint uses the
+Source Connection ID field to specify the connection ID that is used in the
+Destination Connection ID field of packets being sent to them.  Upon receiving a
+packet, each endpoint sets the Destination Connection ID it sends to match the
+value of the Source Connection ID that they receive.
+
+During the handshake, an endpoint might receive multiple packets with the long
+header, and thus be given multiple opportunities to update the Destination
+Connection ID it sends.  A client MUST only change the value it sends in the
+Destination Connection ID field in response to the first packet of each type
+(Retry, or Handshake) that it receives; a server MUST only change its value

Largest packet number fails for the simple reason that it might allow for multiple changes. Lowest packet number works better. And that's all I'm looking for. Latching is what we are looking for, not a continuous sequence of changes.

Also, I added a note to ignore packets with different Source Connection ID values. That deals neatly with the problem where two server instances both attempt to start a connection with you as a result of you sending multiple Initial packets.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3599,7 +3629,7 @@ entire round trip.
 For smooth operation of the congestion controller, it is generally considered
 best to not let the sender go into quiescence if avoidable.  To avoid blocking a
 sender, and to reasonably account for the possibiity of loss, a receiver should
-send a MAX_DATA or MAX_STREAM_DATA frame at least two roundtrips before it
+send a MAX_DATA or MAX_STREAM_DATA frame at least two round trips before it

It's "round-trip time" or "round trip" elsewhere (I think, I'll make it consistent separately)

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A QUIC packet with a short header has the high bit of the first octet set to 0. -A QUIC packet with a short header includes an optional connection ID and no -version field. The second bit of that octet (that is, 0x40) determines whether -the connection ID is present. If the second bit is cleared, a 64-bit connection -ID immediately follows the first octet. If the second bit is set, the remainder -of the packet has version-specific semantics. +A QUIC packet with a short header includes a Destination Connection ID. The +short header does not include the Connection ID Lengths, Source Connection ID, +or Version fields. I put that in the transport doc, where I think that sort of exposition is more valuable. > @@ -257,9 +272,12 @@ Version Negotiation packets do not use integrity or confidentiality protection. A specific QUIC version might authenticate the packet as part of its connection establishment process. -The Connection ID field in a Version Negotiation packet contains the Connection -ID from the packet that was received. This provides some protection against -injection of Version Negotiation packets by off-path attackers. +The Connection ID fields in a Version Negotiation packet contain the Connection +ID values from the packet that was received by the server, inverted to ensure +correct routing of the packet toward the client based on the Destination +Connection ID. Echoing the value of the client's Destination Connection ID in +the Source Connection ID field can provide some protection against injection of +Version Negotiation packets by off-path attackers. Echoing the source connection ID *might* provide protection, but that assumes that it is high enough entropy. A value chosen for the purposes of routing is not guaranteed to have entropy (particularly at our new low low minumum of 32 bits). > @@ -163,7 +163,8 @@ Connection: Connection ID: I wanted to define the general concept, not the specific field. > @@ -577,12 +589,20 @@ The layout of a Version Negotiation packet is: ~~~ {: #version-negotiation-format title="Version Negotiation Packet"} -The value in the Unused field is selected randomly by the server. The Connection -ID field echoes the corresponding value from the triggering client packet. This -allows clients some assurance that the server received the packet and that the -Version Negotiation packet is in fact from the server. The Version field MUST -be set to 0x00000000. The remainder of the Version Negotiation packet is a list -of 32-bit versions which the server supports. +The value in the Unused field is selected randomly by the server. + +The server MUST include the value from the Source Connection ID field of the +packet it receives in the Destination Connection ID field. The value for Source +Connection ID MUST be copied from the Destination Connection ID of the received +packet, which is initially randomly selected by a client. Echoing both +connection IDs gives clients some assurance that the server received the packet +and that the Version Negotiation packet was not generated by an off-path +attacker. Done. > @@ -614,10 +634,14 @@ off-path attackers. The Initial packet uses long headers with a type value of 0x7F. It carries the first cryptographic handshake message sent by the client. -The client populates the connection ID field with randomly selected values, -unless it has received a packet from the server. If the client has received a -packet from the server, the connection ID field uses the value provided by the -server. +If the client has not previously received a Retry packet from the server, it +populates the Destination Connection ID field with a randomly selected value. Oh, I had a whole thing about multiple random values being great for measuring RTT then I remembered that you don't really want to be stuck with trial decryption for the server's first packet. > @@ -678,8 +707,10 @@ A Handshake packet uses long headers with a type value of 0x7D. It is used to carry acknowledgments and cryptographic handshake messages from the server and client. -The connection ID field in a Handshake packet contains a connection ID -that is chosen by the server (see {{connection-id}}). +The Destination Connection ID field in a Handshake packet contains a connection +ID that is chosen by the recipient of the packet; the Source Connection ID Servers don't send Initial packets. > The client can send 0-RTT packets after receiving a Handshake packet ({{packet-handshake}}), if that packet does not complete the handshake. Even if the client receives a different connection ID in the Handshake packet, it MUST -continue to use the connection ID selected by the client for 0-RTT packets, see +continue to use the same Destination Connection ID for 0-RTT packets, see I added text that says that you discard those. > -Once the client receives the connection ID that the server has chosen, it MUST -use it for all subsequent Handshake ({{packet-handshake}}) and 1-RTT -({{packet-protected}}) packets but not for 0-RTT packets ({{packet-protected}}). - -Server's Version Negotiation ({{packet-version}}) and Retry ({{packet-retry}}) -packets MUST use connection ID selected by the client. +A connection ID is used to ensure consistent routing of packets. The long +header contains two connection IDs: the Destination Connection ID is chosen by +the recipient of the packet and is used to provide consistent routing; the +Source Connection ID is used to set the Destination Connection ID used by a +peer. + +During the handshake, packets with the long header are used to establish the +Destination Connection ID that each endpoint uses. Each endpoint uses the +Source Connection ID field to specify the connection ID that is used in the +Destination Connection ID field of packets being sent to them. Upon receiving a Actually I want to add field at least once. When "Destination Connection ID" is used, it always refers to the field. "Connection ID" refers to the concept. Is that OK? > @@ -1115,7 +1166,6 @@ language from Section 3 of {{!I-D.ietf-tls-tls13}}. initial_max_data(1), initial_max_stream_id_bidi(2), idle_timeout(3), - omit_connection_id(4), max_packet_size(5), stateless_reset_token(6), ack_delay_exponent(7), Maybe later. > +This design ensures that a stateless reset packet is - to the extent possible - +indistinguishable from a regular packet. + +A server generates a random 18-octet Destination Connection ID field. For a +client that requires that the server include a connection ID, this will mean +that this value differs from previous packets with two consequences: + +* The packet might not reach the client. If the Destination Connection ID is + critical for routing toward the client, then this packet could be incorrectly + routed and dropped. This causes the stateless reset to be ineffective in + causing errors to be quickly detected and recovered. In this case, clients + will need to rely on other methods such as timers to detect that the + connection has failed. + +* The connection ID can be used by entities other than the client to identify + this as a potential stateless reset. A server that occasionally uses It isn't Germanic anywhere else. > Stateless Reset Token: : A 128-bit value that will be used to for a stateless reset when the associated connection ID is used (see {{stateless-reset}}). +An endpoint MUST NOT send this frame if it currently requires that its peer send +packets with a zero-length Destination Connection ID. Changing the length of a +connection ID to or from zero-length makes it very difficult to identify when +the new connection ID was used. An endpoint that is sending packets with a a This requirement seemed to need justification, that's all. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md:

> @@ -178,16 +192,17 @@ version-specific semantics are marked with an X.
 
 A QUIC packet with a short header has the high bit of the first octet set to 0.
 
-A QUIC packet with a short header includes an optional connection ID and no
-version field.  The second bit of that octet (that is, 0x40) determines whether
-the connection ID is present.  If the second bit is cleared, a 64-bit connection
-ID immediately follows the first octet.  If the second bit is set, the remainder
-of the packet has version-specific semantics.
+A QUIC packet with a short header includes a Destination Connection ID.  The
+short header does not include the Connection ID Lengths, Source Connection ID,
+or Version fields.

I put that in the transport doc, where I think that sort of exposition is more valuable.

In draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md:

> @@ -257,9 +272,12 @@ Version Negotiation packets do not use integrity or confidentiality protection.
 A specific QUIC version might authenticate the packet as part of its connection
 establishment process.
 
-The Connection ID field in a Version Negotiation packet contains the Connection
-ID from the packet that was received.  This provides some protection against
-injection of Version Negotiation packets by off-path attackers.
+The Connection ID fields in a Version Negotiation packet contain the Connection
+ID values from the packet that was received by the server, inverted to ensure
+correct routing of the packet toward the client based on the Destination
+Connection ID.  Echoing the value of the client's Destination Connection ID in
+the Source Connection ID field can provide some protection against injection of
+Version Negotiation packets by off-path attackers.

Echoing the source connection ID might provide protection, but that assumes that it is high enough entropy. A value chosen for the purposes of routing is not guaranteed to have entropy (particularly at our new low low minumum of 32 bits).

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -163,7 +163,8 @@ Connection:
 
 Connection ID:

I wanted to define the general concept, not the specific field.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -577,12 +589,20 @@ The layout of a Version Negotiation packet is:
 ~~~
 {: #version-negotiation-format title="Version Negotiation Packet"}
 
-The value in the Unused field is selected randomly by the server. The Connection
-ID field echoes the corresponding value from the triggering client packet.  This
-allows clients some assurance that the server received the packet and that the
-Version Negotiation packet is in fact from the server.  The Version field MUST
-be set to 0x00000000.  The remainder of the Version Negotiation packet is a list
-of 32-bit versions which the server supports.
+The value in the Unused field is selected randomly by the server.
+
+The server MUST include the value from the Source Connection ID field of the
+packet it receives in the Destination Connection ID field.  The value for Source
+Connection ID MUST be copied from the Destination Connection ID of the received
+packet, which is initially randomly selected by a client.  Echoing both
+connection IDs gives clients some assurance that the server received the packet
+and that the Version Negotiation packet was not generated by an off-path
+attacker.

Done.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -614,10 +634,14 @@ off-path attackers.
 The Initial packet uses long headers with a type value of 0x7F.  It carries the
 first cryptographic handshake message sent by the client.
 
-The client populates the connection ID field with randomly selected values,
-unless it has received a packet from the server.  If the client has received a
-packet from the server, the connection ID field uses the value provided by the
-server.
+If the client has not previously received a Retry packet from the server, it
+populates the Destination Connection ID field with a randomly selected value.

Oh, I had a whole thing about multiple random values being great for measuring RTT then I remembered that you don't really want to be stuck with trial decryption for the server's first packet.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -678,8 +707,10 @@ A Handshake packet uses long headers with a type value of 0x7D.  It is
 used to carry acknowledgments and cryptographic handshake messages from the
 server and client.
 
-The connection ID field in a Handshake packet contains a connection ID
-that is chosen by the server (see {{connection-id}}).
+The Destination Connection ID field in a Handshake packet contains a connection
+ID that is chosen by the recipient of the packet; the Source Connection ID

Servers don't send Initial packets.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 The client can send 0-RTT packets after receiving a Handshake packet
 ({{packet-handshake}}), if that packet does not complete the handshake.  Even if
 the client receives a different connection ID in the Handshake packet, it MUST
-continue to use the connection ID selected by the client for 0-RTT packets, see
+continue to use the same Destination Connection ID for 0-RTT packets, see

I added text that says that you discard those.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -Once the client receives the connection ID that the server has chosen, it MUST
-use it for all subsequent Handshake ({{packet-handshake}}) and 1-RTT
-({{packet-protected}}) packets but not for 0-RTT packets ({{packet-protected}}).
-
-Server's Version Negotiation ({{packet-version}}) and Retry ({{packet-retry}})
-packets MUST use connection ID selected by the client.
+A connection ID is used to ensure consistent routing of packets.  The long
+header contains two connection IDs: the Destination Connection ID is chosen by
+the recipient of the packet and is used to provide consistent routing; the
+Source Connection ID is used to set the Destination Connection ID used by a
+peer.
+
+During the handshake, packets with the long header are used to establish the
+Destination Connection ID that each endpoint uses.  Each endpoint uses the
+Source Connection ID field to specify the connection ID that is used in the
+Destination Connection ID field of packets being sent to them.  Upon receiving a

Actually I want to add field at least once. When "Destination Connection ID" is used, it always refers to the field. "Connection ID" refers to the concept. Is that OK?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1115,7 +1166,6 @@ language from Section 3 of {{!I-D.ietf-tls-tls13}}.
       initial_max_data(1),
       initial_max_stream_id_bidi(2),
       idle_timeout(3),
-      omit_connection_id(4),
       max_packet_size(5),
       stateless_reset_token(6),
       ack_delay_exponent(7),

Maybe later.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +This design ensures that a stateless reset packet is - to the extent possible -
+indistinguishable from a regular packet.
+
+A server generates a random 18-octet Destination Connection ID field.  For a
+client that requires that the server include a connection ID, this will mean
+that this value differs from previous packets with two consequences:
+
+* The packet might not reach the client.  If the Destination Connection ID is
+  critical for routing toward the client, then this packet could be incorrectly
+  routed and dropped.  This causes the stateless reset to be ineffective in
+  causing errors to be quickly detected and recovered.  In this case, clients
+  will need to rely on other methods such as timers to detect that the
+  connection has failed.
+
+* The connection ID can be used by entities other than the client to identify
+  this as a potential stateless reset.  A server that occasionally uses

It isn't Germanic anywhere else.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 Stateless Reset Token:
 
 : A 128-bit value that will be used to for a stateless reset when the associated
   connection ID is used (see {{stateless-reset}}).
 
+An endpoint MUST NOT send this frame if it currently requires that its peer send
+packets with a zero-length Destination Connection ID.  Changing the length of a
+connection ID to or from zero-length makes it very difficult to identify when
+the new connection ID was used.  An endpoint that is sending packets with a a

This requirement seemed to need justification, that's all.

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@afrind raises a good hypothetical case:

  • Encoder sends a header block on a request stream, which is delayed in the network
  • Encoder side resets the stream, which is lost in the network
  • Encoder sends another header block on the control stream that evicts an entry referenced in the first block, and this is delivered immediately.
  • The first delayed header block arrives

From the encoder's side, it's valid to evict something referenced by the first block, because the stream has been reset. From the decoder's side, there's a reference to something already evicted, because it doesn't know about the stream reset.

The solution to this seems to be that missing references on request/push streams are stream errors, not connection errors. Missing references on the control stream still need to be connection errors.

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I am looking at a stateless implementation of challenge/response. Not hard, but the 8 bytes challenge/response is a bit short.

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----==_mimepart_5aa1d7d53bdb9_3f352b2a9bf56ec825531f-- From nobody Thu Mar 8 16:58:19 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6C3A127077 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2018 16:58:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.008 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.008 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UczmPWaCuBb4 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2018 16:58:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from o5.sgmail.github.com (o5.sgmail.github.com [192.254.113.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AF45F120727 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2018 16:58:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=NrY2ebLqgbpfkcf+KFs8hmXlog0=; b=gXVGiAkABtwtsPKa NcjccV+sW55M5tyEjvayK8S9RePcoLmTyLYQNS9NawTHtDiJO3hNVHzlrpcJpNub mB0P16bcq59ac7wPqK/Kap2Atw2pQkRapOrf+xOrEQtcH1cyvHZvxNtWc1KKh6O4 7509IMvqvIYI+hvnIB5lqTeTbdI= Received: by filter1106p1mdw1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter1106p1mdw1-31083-5AA1DC17-1A 2018-03-09 00:57:59.709598383 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0043p1mdw1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id 2DPZ4U4YTjGfvH8HjXtlqg for ; Fri, 09 Mar 2018 00:57:59.736 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2018 00:57:59 +0000 (UTC) From: afrind Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Non-blocking decoder (#1140) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aa1dc1757229_87c3fa133bd2f2c8238"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: afrind X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak113QWrcRlsV7X8SiRAtPuue/xzQIj+P1FmIS njScZt6/QkmvAy4Vu1/ar3+R+bGBIC+i3znoMj6IVT+Ub2Zt28jPNL5yAVgJGwYZM6wIw0Q1dIXLUV ci9WtVPKOkT058tMLKUxtOI8SgBE64flsUI/GvYyZxI5HiuNJ8tWI+tzQpnK26jYOYwLbh4Vfqy755 Q= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2018 00:58:18 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aa1dc1757229_87c3fa133bd2f2c8238 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think the decoder needs to be able to declare some maximum value for the number of blocking references it will queue, rather than a boolean on/off. Unbounded queues are bad. True having Depends up front allows the decoder to leave the bulk of the compressed block in the transport, but the doing so could end up consuming a large amount of flow control space and memory in that case -- it should still have a limit. The spec should also recommend that an implementation set a maximum amount of time it will queue before closing the connection. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1140#issuecomment-371677474 ----==_mimepart_5aa1dc1757229_87c3fa133bd2f2c8238 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I think the decoder needs to be able to declare some maximum value for t= he number of blocking references it will queue, rather than a boolean on/of= f. Unbounded queues are bad. True having Depends up front allows the deco= der to leave the bulk of the compressed block in the transport, but the doi= ng so could end up consuming a large amount of flow control space and memor= y in that case -- it should still have a limit.

The spec should also recommend that an implementation set a maximum amou= nt of time it will queue before closing the connection.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +Additionally, the PATH_RESPONSE frame MUST be received on the same local address
+from which the corresponding PATH_CHALLENGE was sent.  If a PATH_RESPONSE frame
+is received on a different local address than the one from which the
+PATH_CHALLENGE was sent, path validation is considered to have failed, even if
+the data matches that sent in the PATH_CHALLENGE.  Thus, the endpoint considers
+the path to be valid when a PATH_RESPONSE frame is received on the same path
+with the same payload as the PATH_CHALLENGE frame.
+
+
+#### Abandonment
+
+An endpoint SHOULD abandon path validation after sending some number of
+PATH_CHALLENGE frames or after some time has passed.  When setting this timer,
+implementations are cautioned that the new path could have a longer round-trip
+time than the original.  Again, to avoid excessive network load, an endpoint
+SHOULD NOT send more PATH_CHALLENGE frames than it would a client INITIAL,

Good point -- I don't think I need it here. The earlier text is adequate. Removed.

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@martinthomson : can you take a look? I'd like to merge tomorrow (Friday), but would like to confirm that you're fine with this.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -702,6 +702,10 @@ use it for all subsequent Handshake ({{packet-handshake}}) and 1-RTT
 Server's Version Negotiation ({{packet-version}}) and Retry ({{packet-retry}})
 packets MUST use connection ID selected by the client.
 
+Note that the connection ID may change during the connection via the use of
+NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames ({{frame-new-connection-id}}) and connection migration
+({{migration}}).
+

I'd prefer:

The connection ID could change over the lifetime of a connection, especially in response to connection migration (cite). NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames (cite) are used to provide new values.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -702,6 +702,10 @@ use it for all subsequent Handshake ({{packet-handshake}}) and 1-RTT
 Server's Version Negotiation ({{packet-version}}) and Retry ({{packet-retry}})
 packets MUST use connection ID selected by the client.
 
+Note that the connection ID may change during the connection via the use of
+NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames ({{frame-new-connection-id}}) and connection migration
+({{migration}}).
+

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This is still too one-sided for me sadly. I would like this to say "endpoint" and "peer" everywhere it says "client" and "server", except for one paragraph that outlines why these mechanisms are only supported for client migration (i.e., because we don't want to deal with glare). I also retain concerns about structure. I find this structure hard to deal with because - though the requirements are all there and correct - they are distributed in a way that makes working through the process difficult. I think that you want: 1. validation (this section is good) 2. migration 2.1. probing 2.2. migration at the initiating end 2.2.2. voluntary migration 2.2.1. involuntary migration 2.2. migration at the responding end 2.3. congestion/loss concerns I'm happy to propose a remix of this text that follows that structure, but that will have to wait until next week. > +QUIC allows connections to survive changes to endpoint addresses (that is, IP +address and/or port), such as those caused by a client migrating to a new +network. This section describes the protocol for migrating a connection to a +new client address. + +Migrating a connection to a new server address is left for future work. If a +client receives packets from a new server address, the client MAY discard these +packets. + + +### Path Validation {#migrate-validate} + +Path validation is used by the migrating endpoint to verify reachability of +a peer from a new local address. Path validation is also used by the peer to +verify that the migrating endpoint is able to receive packets sent to that +address. That is, that the packets received from the migrating endpoint do "sent to *the migrated* address" perhaps? The "that" is a bit hard to follow. > +than establishing a new connection. + +The endpoint MUST use fresh random data in every PATH_CHALLENGE frame so that it +can associate the peer's response with the causative PATH_CHALLENGE. + + +#### Response + +On receiving a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, an endpoint MUST respond immediately by +echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame, +with the following stipulation. Since a PATH_CHALLENGE might be sent from a +spoofed address, an endpoint MAY limit the rate at which it sends PATH_RESPONSE +frames and MAY silently discard PATH_CHALLENGE frames that would cause it to +respond at a higher rate. + +Path validation tests both directions of a path. To ensure reachability in both "Path validation tests that packets can be both sent to and received from a peer." The implication I got from reading this text was that a single validation process (CHALLENGE/RESPONSE) was sufficient for both peers to be satisfied that the path is good. That's not the case: both endpoints need to do their own challenge. > + +The client may immediately migrate the connection by sending all packets from +the new local address. Receiving acknowledgments for this data serves as proof +of the server's reachability from the new address. + +Alternatively, the client may probe for server reachability from the new local +address first using path validation {{migrate-validate}} and migrate the +connection to the new address at a later time. Failure of path validation +simply means that the new local address is not usable for this connection and +should not be fatal to the connection when alternative local addresses are +available. + +A client migrating to a new local address SHOULD use a new connection ID for +packets sent from that address, see {{migration-linkability}} for further +discussion. + Please avoid normative language then. > +time than the original. + +Note that the endpoint might receive packets containing other frames on the new +path, but a PATH_RESPONSE frame with appropriate data is required for path +validation to succeed. + + +### Initiating Connection Migration {#initiating-migration} + +A client can migrate a connection to a new local address by sending all packets +from the new local address. Since the server's address is validated during +connection establishment, receiving acknowledgments for this data serves as +proof of the server's reachability from the new address. Note that since +acknowledgments may be received on any path, return reachability on the new path +is not established. To establish return reachability on the new path, a client +MAY concurrently initiate path validation {{migrate-validate}} on the new path. This paragraph has too many ideas for me. Here's a breakdown: You want to say that a client can initiate migration to a new address at any time. You also should point out that the basic functions are potentially usable for server migration, but that is not supported due to not having a means of avoid glare. The point about paths being validated (for both server and client) belongs elsewhere, likely in the introduction of the validation section. Same again for the point about acknowledgments. Receiving data (including acknowledgments) does not provide proof of return routeability (too low entropy). So that leaves one idea in the first paragraph: who can do it, and what it is for. Move the bit about concurrent path validation to a new paragraph. --- Overall, I think that needs to be crisper than this and structuring this differently might help. Give the migrating endpoint three sections: * Speculative probing. Why you might do it, and how you do it. Maybe also what the reaction should be, so that this is self-contained. * The voluntary migration an endpoint makes when it is aware of what it is doing. This happens when an endpoint is aware that it is using a new address. In this case, we should mandate path validation and a new congestion state (absent some heuristics about continuity). Path validation might be concurrent with the change, particularly if the old path is gone, so this might appear to be involuntary at the server, but this is logically distinct. * The involuntary migration (NAT rebinding) needs a section of its own too. The peer of the migrating endpoint reacts differently, because the concurrent validation looks like involuntary migration to it. Note - as you do - that it can tell between a speculative probe and actual migration by the presence of frames other than PATH_CHALLENGE in packets on the new path. Then say that speculative probes don't trigger migration. After that, the only thing you need to say is that send rate is limited until the path challenge is successful, and the congestion state is reset (absent continuity heuristics again - repetition of this theme suggests a section that you can point to and include some of the nuance) after it. > + +To protect the connection from failing due to such a spurious migration, the +server MUST revert to using the last validated client address when validation of +a new client address fails. + +If the server has no state about the last validated client address, it MUST +close the connection silently by discarding all connection state. This results +in new packets on the connection being handled generically. For instance, an +endpoint MAY send a stateless reset in response to any further incoming packets. + +Note that receipt of packets with higher packet numbers from the legitimate +client address will trigger another connection migration. This will cause the +validation of the address of the spurious migration to be abandoned. + + +### Loss Detection and Congestion Control This section is good. I worry a little that the pattern of acknowledgments triggered by this will leak information about what is going on, but I don't have a good solution for that here. > + +It is possible that the client is spoofing its source address to cause the +server to send excessive amounts of data to an unwilling host. If the server +sends significantly more data than the client, connection migration might be +used to amplify the volume of data that an attacker can generate toward a +victim. + +As described in {{migration-response}}, a server is required to validate the +client's new address to confirm the client's possession of the new address. +Until a client's address is deemed valid, the server MUST limit the rate at +which it sends data to this address. The server MUST NOT send more than a +minimum congestion window's worth of data per estimated RTO period (as defined +in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}). In the absence of this limit, the server risks being +used for a denial of service attack against an unsuspecting victim. Note that +since the server will not have any round-trip time estimates to the new address, +the RTO period is likely to be estimated based on the default initial RTT (see "SHOULD be" not "likely to be" I think that this text belongs in the section that deals with handling of migrations by the non-migrating peer. > +PATH_CHALLENGE was sent, path validation is considered to have failed, even if +the data matches that sent in the PATH_CHALLENGE. Thus, the endpoint considers +the path to be valid when a PATH_RESPONSE frame is received on the same path +with the same payload as the PATH_CHALLENGE frame. + + +#### Abandonment + +An endpoint SHOULD abandon path validation after sending some number of +PATH_CHALLENGE frames or after some time has passed. When setting this timer, +implementations are cautioned that the new path could have a longer round-trip +time than the original. + +Note that the endpoint might receive packets containing other frames on the new +path, but a PATH_RESPONSE frame with appropriate data is required for path +validation to succeed. You might also hint here that a path challenge might be abandoned for other reasons. Primarily, this happens if a path challenge is initiated as a result of a path migration and another path migration occurs before it completes. You also need to talk about failure. If this timer pops, then the path is invalid and cannot be used further. > @@ -1475,37 +1479,269 @@ failure. If integrity protection is performed by QUIC, QUIC MUST abort the connection if the integrity check fails with a PROTOCOL_VIOLATION error code. -## Connection Migration {#migration} +## Client Connection Migration {#migration} + +QUIC allows connections to survive changes to endpoint addresses (that is, IP +address and/or port), such as those caused by a client migrating to a new +network. This section describes the protocol for migrating a connection to a +new client address. + +Migrating a connection to a new server address is left for future work. If a +client receives packets from a new server address, the client MAY discard these +packets. + + +### Path Validation {#migrate-validate} I think that you should promote this section one level and put it before connection migration generally. > + +Path validation is used by the migrating endpoint to verify reachability of +a peer from a new local address. Path validation is also used by the peer to +verify that the migrating endpoint is able to receive packets sent to that +address. That is, that the packets received from the migrating endpoint do +not carry a spoofed source address. + +Path validation MAY be used at any time by either endpoint. For instance, an +endpoint might check that a peer is still in possession of its address after a +period of quiescence. + +An endpoint MAY bundle PATH_CHALLENGE and PATH_RESPONSE frames with other +frames, as appropriate. For instance, an endpoint may pad a packet carrying a +PATH_CHALLENGE for PMTU discovery, or an endpoint may bundle a PATH_RESPONSE +with its own PATH_CHALLENGE. + Please add a paragraph disclaiming any suitability for UDP NAT traversal. 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@martinthomson requested changes on this pull request.

This is still too one-sided for me sadly. I would like this to say "endpoint" and "peer" everywhere it says "client" and "server", except for one paragraph that outlines why these mechanisms are only supported for client migration (i.e., because we don't want to deal with glare).

I also retain concerns about structure. I find this structure hard to deal with because - though the requirements are all there and correct - they are distributed in a way that makes working through the process difficult.

I think that you want:

  1. validation (this section is good)
  2. migration
    2.1. probing
    2.2. migration at the initiating end
    2.2.2. voluntary migration
    2.2.1. involuntary migration
    2.2. migration at the responding end
    2.3. congestion/loss concerns

I'm happy to propose a remix of this text that follows that structure, but that will have to wait until next week.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +QUIC allows connections to survive changes to endpoint addresses (that is, IP
+address and/or port), such as those caused by a client migrating to a new
+network.  This section describes the protocol for migrating a connection to a
+new client address.
+
+Migrating a connection to a new server address is left for future work. If a
+client receives packets from a new server address, the client MAY discard these
+packets.
+
+
+### Path Validation {#migrate-validate}
+
+Path validation is used by the migrating endpoint to verify reachability of
+a peer from a new local address. Path validation is also used by the peer to
+verify that the migrating endpoint is able to receive packets sent to that
+address.  That is, that the packets received from the migrating endpoint do

"sent to the migrated address" perhaps? The "that" is a bit hard to follow.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +than establishing a new connection.
+
+The endpoint MUST use fresh random data in every PATH_CHALLENGE frame so that it
+can associate the peer's response with the causative PATH_CHALLENGE.
+
+
+#### Response
+
+On receiving a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, an endpoint MUST respond immediately by
+echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame,
+with the following stipulation.  Since a PATH_CHALLENGE might be sent from a
+spoofed address, an endpoint MAY limit the rate at which it sends PATH_RESPONSE
+frames and MAY silently discard PATH_CHALLENGE frames that would cause it to
+respond at a higher rate.
+
+Path validation tests both directions of a path.  To ensure reachability in both

"Path validation tests that packets can be both sent to and received from a peer."

The implication I got from reading this text was that a single validation process (CHALLENGE/RESPONSE) was sufficient for both peers to be satisfied that the path is good. That's not the case: both endpoints need to do their own challenge.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+The client may immediately migrate the connection by sending all packets from
+the new local address.  Receiving acknowledgments for this data serves as proof
+of the server's reachability from the new address.
+
+Alternatively, the client may probe for server reachability from the new local
+address first using path validation {{migrate-validate}} and migrate the
+connection to the new address at a later time.  Failure of path validation
+simply means that the new local address is not usable for this connection and
+should not be fatal to the connection when alternative local addresses are
+available.
+
+A client migrating to a new local address SHOULD use a new connection ID for
+packets sent from that address, see {{migration-linkability}} for further
+discussion.
+

Please avoid normative language then.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +time than the original.
+
+Note that the endpoint might receive packets containing other frames on the new
+path, but a PATH_RESPONSE frame with appropriate data is required for path
+validation to succeed.
+
+
+### Initiating Connection Migration {#initiating-migration}
+
+A client can migrate a connection to a new local address by sending all packets
+from the new local address.  Since the server's address is validated during
+connection establishment, receiving acknowledgments for this data serves as
+proof of the server's reachability from the new address.  Note that since
+acknowledgments may be received on any path, return reachability on the new path
+is not established. To establish return reachability on the new path, a client
+MAY concurrently initiate path validation {{migrate-validate}} on the new path.

This paragraph has too many ideas for me. Here's a breakdown:

You want to say that a client can initiate migration to a new address at any time. You also should point out that the basic functions are potentially usable for server migration, but that is not supported due to not having a means of avoid glare.

The point about paths being validated (for both server and client) belongs elsewhere, likely in the introduction of the validation section.

Same again for the point about acknowledgments. Receiving data (including acknowledgments) does not provide proof of return routeability (too low entropy).

So that leaves one idea in the first paragraph: who can do it, and what it is for.

Move the bit about concurrent path validation to a new paragraph.

Overall, I think that needs to be crisper than this and structuring this differently might help.

Give the migrating endpoint three sections:

  • Speculative probing. Why you might do it, and how you do it. Maybe also what the reaction should be, so that this is self-contained.

  • The voluntary migration an endpoint makes when it is aware of what it is doing. This happens when an endpoint is aware that it is using a new address. In this case, we should mandate path validation and a new congestion state (absent some heuristics about continuity). Path validation might be concurrent with the change, particularly if the old path is gone, so this might appear to be involuntary at the server, but this is logically distinct.

  • The involuntary migration (NAT rebinding) needs a section of its own too.

The peer of the migrating endpoint reacts differently, because the concurrent validation looks like involuntary migration to it. Note - as you do - that it can tell between a speculative probe and actual migration by the presence of frames other than PATH_CHALLENGE in packets on the new path. Then say that speculative probes don't trigger migration. After that, the only thing you need to say is that send rate is limited until the path challenge is successful, and the congestion state is reset (absent continuity heuristics again - repetition of this theme suggests a section that you can point to and include some of the nuance) after it.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+To protect the connection from failing due to such a spurious migration, the
+server MUST revert to using the last validated client address when validation of
+a new client address fails.
+
+If the server has no state about the last validated client address, it MUST
+close the connection silently by discarding all connection state. This results
+in new packets on the connection being handled generically. For instance, an
+endpoint MAY send a stateless reset in response to any further incoming packets.
+
+Note that receipt of packets with higher packet numbers from the legitimate
+client address will trigger another connection migration.  This will cause the
+validation of the address of the spurious migration to be abandoned.
+
+
+### Loss Detection and Congestion Control

This section is good. I worry a little that the pattern of acknowledgments triggered by this will leak information about what is going on, but I don't have a good solution for that here.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+It is possible that the client is spoofing its source address to cause the
+server to send excessive amounts of data to an unwilling host.  If the server
+sends significantly more data than the client, connection migration might be
+used to amplify the volume of data that an attacker can generate toward a
+victim.
+
+As described in {{migration-response}}, a server is required to validate the
+client's new address to confirm the client's possession of the new address.
+Until a client's address is deemed valid, the server MUST limit the rate at
+which it sends data to this address.  The server MUST NOT send more than a
+minimum congestion window's worth of data per estimated RTO period (as defined
+in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}).  In the absence of this limit, the server risks being
+used for a denial of service attack against an unsuspecting victim.  Note that
+since the server will not have any round-trip time estimates to the new address,
+the RTO period is likely to be estimated based on the default initial RTT (see

"SHOULD be" not "likely to be"

I think that this text belongs in the section that deals with handling of migrations by the non-migrating peer.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +PATH_CHALLENGE was sent, path validation is considered to have failed, even if
+the data matches that sent in the PATH_CHALLENGE.  Thus, the endpoint considers
+the path to be valid when a PATH_RESPONSE frame is received on the same path
+with the same payload as the PATH_CHALLENGE frame.
+
+
+#### Abandonment
+
+An endpoint SHOULD abandon path validation after sending some number of
+PATH_CHALLENGE frames or after some time has passed.  When setting this timer,
+implementations are cautioned that the new path could have a longer round-trip
+time than the original.
+
+Note that the endpoint might receive packets containing other frames on the new
+path, but a PATH_RESPONSE frame with appropriate data is required for path
+validation to succeed.

You might also hint here that a path challenge might be abandoned for other reasons. Primarily, this happens if a path challenge is initiated as a result of a path migration and another path migration occurs before it completes.

You also need to talk about failure. If this timer pops, then the path is invalid and cannot be used further.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1475,37 +1479,269 @@ failure.  If integrity protection is performed by QUIC, QUIC MUST abort the
 connection if the integrity check fails with a PROTOCOL_VIOLATION error code.
 
 
-## Connection Migration {#migration}
+## Client Connection Migration {#migration}
+
+QUIC allows connections to survive changes to endpoint addresses (that is, IP
+address and/or port), such as those caused by a client migrating to a new
+network.  This section describes the protocol for migrating a connection to a
+new client address.
+
+Migrating a connection to a new server address is left for future work. If a
+client receives packets from a new server address, the client MAY discard these
+packets.
+
+
+### Path Validation {#migrate-validate}

I think that you should promote this section one level and put it before connection migration generally.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+Path validation is used by the migrating endpoint to verify reachability of
+a peer from a new local address. Path validation is also used by the peer to
+verify that the migrating endpoint is able to receive packets sent to that
+address.  That is, that the packets received from the migrating endpoint do
+not carry a spoofed source address.
+
+Path validation MAY be used at any time by either endpoint.  For instance, an
+endpoint might check that a peer is still in possession of its address after a
+period of quiescence.
+
+An endpoint MAY bundle PATH_CHALLENGE and PATH_RESPONSE frames with other
+frames, as appropriate.  For instance, an endpoint may pad a packet carrying a
+PATH_CHALLENGE for PMTU discovery, or an endpoint may bundle a PATH_RESPONSE
+with its own PATH_CHALLENGE.
+

Please add a paragraph disclaiming any suitability for UDP NAT traversal. Though these mechanisms might be effective for the creation of NAT bindings that support NAT traversal, the expectation is that one or other peer (typically the server) is able to receive packets without first having sent a packet on that path. Effective NAT traversal needs additional synchronization mechanisms that are not provided here.

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Based on feedback on-list this issue is created to highlight these, asking for more input. https://quicwg.github.io/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#rfc.section.7.9.4 With the likely introduction of asymmetric Connection ID's a reset can no longer be routed to the client which reduces effectiveness. But it also prevents a connection specific reset meaning that an off-path attacker has better chances of spoofing a reset. A token could be tied the connection tuple, but this isn't stable through NAT, although it can be hashed to the IP iff migration is not in use. Positives: - Google reports that SR measurably reduces overall latency, presumably because some connections eventually fail to route and a timeout would delay reconnection attempts. - SR is currently only used on clients which are more difficult to target maliciously than a publicly known server. Negatives: - SR has the potential to be abused by forcing established connections to close via off-path packet injection. - SR shadows alternative solutions to the problem such as more aggresive probes with short timeouts. - SR is currently asymmetric which is odd given that P2P server use is also relevant, but apparently it is difficult to make symmetric in handshake. But OTOH if SR were symmetric, the server (or client) with a publicly known address, would be vulnerable to reset attacks to the extend such are effective. - With asymmetric Connection IDs the reset cannot always route, which at least conceptually is clumsy and may or may not reduce effectiveness in the primary use case (that likely doens't have client routers). - Asymmetric Connection ID's makes SR more vulnerable because the receiver cannot verify the connection ID. A client will also have to do more work to realise that a packet is a reset and not random data. It is unclear to what extend the positives are important without further input and possibly evalulation of alternative strategies. For example, it might be that SR reduces latency because no alternative counter measure has been implemented. For example a PATH_CHALLENGE might be used as soon as ACK's don't arrive timely rather than waiting for a connection timeout that might have much longer duration because it deals with periods of inactivity as well. That said, a reset will clearly be more effecive when it works as intended. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1177 ----==_mimepart_5aa2428fb913e_36933ffc7fae6f30645777 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Stateless Reset (SR) has some positives and negatives.
Based on feedback on-list this issue is created to highlight these, asking for more input.

https://quicwg.github.io/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#rfc.section.7.9.4

With the likely introduction of asymmetric Connection ID's a reset can no longer be routed to the client which reduces effectiveness. But it also prevents a connection specific reset meaning that an off-path attacker has better chances of spoofing a reset. A token could be tied the connection tuple, but this isn't stable through NAT, although it can be hashed to the IP iff migration is not in use.

Positives:

  • Google reports that SR measurably reduces overall latency, presumably because some connections eventually fail to route and a timeout would delay reconnection attempts.
  • SR is currently only used on clients which are more difficult to target maliciously than a publicly known server.

Negatives:

  • SR has the potential to be abused by forcing established connections to close via off-path packet injection.
  • SR shadows alternative solutions to the problem such as more aggresive probes with short timeouts.
  • SR is currently asymmetric which is odd given that P2P server use is also relevant, but apparently it is difficult to make symmetric in handshake. But OTOH if SR were symmetric, the server (or client) with a publicly known address, would be vulnerable to reset attacks to the extend such are effective.
  • With asymmetric Connection IDs the reset cannot always route, which at least conceptually is clumsy and may or may not reduce effectiveness in the primary use case (that likely doens't have client routers).
  • Asymmetric Connection ID's makes SR more vulnerable because the receiver cannot verify the connection ID. A client will also have to do more work to realise that a packet is a reset and not random data.

It is unclear to what extend the positives are important without further input and possibly evalulation of alternative strategies. For example, it might be that SR reduces latency because no alternative counter measure has been implemented. For example a PATH_CHALLENGE might be used as soon as ACK's don't arrive timely rather than waiting for a connection timeout that might have much longer duration because it deals with periods of inactivity as well. That said, a reset will clearly be more effecive when it works as intended.

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In draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md:

> @@ -178,16 +192,17 @@ version-specific semantics are marked with an X.
 
 A QUIC packet with a short header has the high bit of the first octet set to 0.
 
-A QUIC packet with a short header includes an optional connection ID and no
-version field.  The second bit of that octet (that is, 0x40) determines whether
-the connection ID is present.  If the second bit is cleared, a 64-bit connection
-ID immediately follows the first octet.  If the second bit is set, the remainder
-of the packet has version-specific semantics.
+A QUIC packet with a short header includes a Destination Connection ID.  The
+short header does not include the Connection ID Lengths, Source Connection ID,
+or Version fields.

or in the manageability statement...?

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It also probably something to discuss in the manageability statement, no?

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I forgot that including the packet number in the SR offers a good counter measure to an off-path attack.

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My opinion on reset is all over the place in these issues - #1177 - but that aside:

The symmetri in server p2p with fixed IP/port at both ends, i.e. static = tuple. This in parts handle ephemeral port exhaustion, notably from reverse= proxy to app server, and in part allows for simpler raw socket / netmap im= plementations, and non-IP/UDP transports in special cases.

This was almost supported at one point, but apparently it was reverted i= n Melbourne though I'm not sure why, or if this still apply, or if it appli= es for the duration of the connection or only during handshake.

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Section 7.9.1 says:

An endpoint enters a closing period after initiating an immediate close (Section 7.9.3) and optionally after an idle timeout (Section 7.9.2).

But Section 7.9.2 says:

A connection enters the draining state when the idle timeout expires.

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Added a more general issue to discuss relevance/importance of reset in #1177

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Not sure what can be done here:

The first of these negatives is addressed in the draft.

The second doesn't seem actionable if I understand your intent - if st= ateless reset works, it's better than aggressive timers, but that's not a= problem, especially since aggressive timers have pretty bad side-effects= , like premature closure.

The third is addressed in the draft to the extent possible.

The fourth seems to be a duplicate of the third.

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In draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md:

> @@ -178,16 +192,17 @@ version-specific semantics are marked with an X.
 
 A QUIC packet with a short header has the high bit of the first octet set to 0.
 
-A QUIC packet with a short header includes an optional connection ID and no
-version field.  The second bit of that octet (that is, 0x40) determines whether
-the connection ID is present.  If the second bit is cleared, a 64-bit connection
-ID immediately follows the first octet.  If the second bit is set, the remainder
-of the packet has version-specific semantics.
+A QUIC packet with a short header includes a Destination Connection ID.  The
+short header does not include the Connection ID Lengths, Source Connection ID,
+or Version fields.

I think that text on how to construct a connection ID that has the sorts of properties we care about (unlinkability, etc...) would be good things to add to that sort of draft.

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The idea here would be, after #1151, to allow stateless reset from clients. A state= less reset wouldn't be usable until the server moved to a connection ID t= hat was provided with NEW_CONNECTION_ID though.

The reason symmetric stateless reset was dropped was that the token co= uldn't be carried with confidentiality protection.

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Hmm, I think that it has to be draining. Without a CONNECTION_CLOSE to signal an end, both endpoints could enter closing and that would be bad.

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----==_mimepart_5aa250e436a20_7aea3f852b422f30250d3-- From nobody Fri Mar 9 01:18:54 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74D8F129502 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2018 01:18:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A6nDawKG5-fj for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2018 01:18:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from o6.sgmail.github.com (o6.sgmail.github.com [192.254.113.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E089126C83 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2018 01:18:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=t3SPPU4hSr9I9TzM6PhkyI5FzNI=; b=pvN0UiPlhskDDB33 Gnlp4hDI1vNGV4sX8eiVTfjBtZoEvjIzNePkFuOXJ+F9lIoyOaSOaZ8DUobM79gL aezk7JY/0c09JvT3w78KtsNGI4wFcet/r+K/w341O5VwOQLySvjw7vq9KWKQ2Tcn I0SZ6p+MmNf69sIEnbtF8zcclSY= Received: by filter0072p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0072p1las1-6588-5AA2517A-12 2018-03-09 09:18:50.520527007 +0000 UTC Received: from smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) by ismtpd0025p1mdw1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id ips0WvKfSgqm3OpZzKZtag for ; Fri, 09 Mar 2018 09:18:50.417 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2018 09:18:50 +0000 (UTC) From: Lars Eggert Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Closing or draining state after idle timeout? (#1178) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aa2517a2640f_31c13ff18fa30f2860025"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: larseggert X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak38zIiK1fAVMtqhU4ghiLN1oCaYEX6d3djnge gJQcSVFRbBtu/bcxaKaZZk+vVgxV3LlsOPR5VjjPVZOMEcK6TFcSCDfC3wnwogMimsN3flG5s33dvz cQLVnZx1BeExxqcQPhgs0/FOSxXWCgLq+5bzXboUmvjomj+A5ltXG4xPiOBp8dlTvTLrlvlcXIImDQ c= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2018 09:18:52 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aa2517a2640f_31c13ff18fa30f2860025 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Shouldn't a *_CLOSE frame be sent prior to that? Otherwise the other side needs to wait for an idle timeout, too. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1178#issuecomment-371757835 ----==_mimepart_5aa2517a2640f_31c13ff18fa30f2860025 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Shouldn't a *_CLOSE frame be sent prior to that? Otherwise the other side needs to wait for an idle timeout, too.

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The idle timeout ends without sending CONNECTION_CLOSE, and it can end approximately simultaneously. If both endpoints send CONNECTION_CLOSE and then go to closing, then they might start a packet storm if neither actually looks at packets they receive before retransmitting their close packet (which is permitted). We want idle timeout to pass without packets, so this needs to be closing. 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Yes, but the expectation is that both peers hit this at about the same time.

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The draft was a little unclear on this point and its important. The idle timeout ends without sending CONNECTION_CLOSE, and it can end approximately simultaneously. If both endpoints send CONNECTION_CLOSE and then go to closing, then they might start a packet storm if neither actually looks at packets they receive before retransmitting their close packet (which is permitted). We want idle timeout to pass without packets, so this needs to be closing.

Closes #1178.

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  • Enter closing after the idle timeout

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Why would that be? Both can use different idle timeouts.

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----==_mimepart_5aa251c629dfa_66a42ac6748caec812588e-- From nobody Fri Mar 9 01:28:38 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8895D129C6A for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2018 01:28:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yGHIvjpbMJdU for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2018 01:28:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from o8.sgmail.github.com (o8.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.199]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BB49212AF84 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2018 01:28:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=mbaksPaR6566lGRi/ZamBNowoio=; b=K0gzYE8OmeOvX2tb Qo4NaRtQ3Xfh78bC3zkTjhZWhBt/BDAApx32fZzxIuJmxjk4M8Ng2HYMch1GPC+2 yxQ312jt/+zkcMXP1/EgKmCVtvViOVUKzgMXFnC2VHMkvIn/aBbb55OS6YPBIms7 Z1go8EHd7eHMeofXBMLPrhBND/o= Received: by filter0107p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0107p1las1-6366-5AA253B9-8 2018-03-09 09:28:25.308531797 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0008p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id iVZx7b_-TjCprhjtixmd5w for ; Fri, 09 Mar 2018 09:28:25.129 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2018 09:28:25 +0000 (UTC) From: Magnus Westerlund Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] MSS and MTU (#592) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aa253b963e1_2e582ae4dc726ec4733a6"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: gloinul X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak25H85Suz0dvp5eDJ6f8roR1Tqf8InFdeBQO/ vujsijLsD8qMXWvILOLlwwL6vj/+F7TF7Er8iYONRovLqG/Ci8l94OwdLC0yE4VXYQS+ja8F4F7MF7 zaEEftJqW+KELGTgeDafCoBvf2xakNERmwovtj4UeucLR0pGNBWTU2iHrAk5x05230CIT3M89z820F Q= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2018 09:28:37 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aa253b963e1_2e582ae4dc726ec4733a6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A Quick look in -10 seems that this is not yet addressed, so I will keep it open. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/592#issuecomment-371760174 ----==_mimepart_5aa253b963e1_2e582ae4dc726ec4733a6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

A Quick look in -10 seems that this is not yet addressed, so I will keep it open.

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This is still not clear in -10, will keep it open.

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So -10 resolves the mismatch about default. And I am fine with not using pseudo code constants in description.

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----==_mimepart_5aa25622e83f9_65152ac6748caec814949c-- From nobody Fri Mar 9 01:52:32 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9124512AF83 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2018 01:52:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.605 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.605 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Wl8F_5FW53F8 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2018 01:52:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from o8.sgmail.github.com (o8.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.199]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5B2B0126C19 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2018 01:52:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=lOT43vSszaFkhel/D2TLCoq/X+c=; b=FcWgVz+h6BJPWIfO w91DRCnbsqHA4OSR71qsAWziwDHWRB3lFBOACitWk8rc2SXMTU6+Oe+s9sJTvZ1B mo6DpTgKcSUTgTsj2anHouUrw+3WkpOxf/opyvj95+mxvbqRSIIPGI+kvDMRrkAV IaooUdXjP+vDwbZEEpnJ1uRkT88= Received: by filter0939p1mdw1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0939p1mdw1-9660-5AA2595B-D 2018-03-09 09:52:27.936970156 +0000 UTC Received: from smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) by ismtpd0004p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id IUL6xkpURtS8oan1hE3HUA for ; Fri, 09 Mar 2018 09:52:27.849 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2018 09:52:28 +0000 (UTC) From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Stateless Reset Concerns (#1177) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aa2595bb891f_13962ac9fd55aec817781e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak3T/AukGVAGnubQhURP+N5uMM7MFyWtIF+17R 2kAZmT42aJRMNbN9X2obpI9lIB9KqEQuvhwrIH7LCWSVN0Jv3aM7a7ir70BuBD59MqWeLr97ioeQHL Pz/2jPnFaNv0znbYUFrHEakjU370MpyNkIWefSHnb2Ue9FpIB0Q/AweqIQ== Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2018 09:52:30 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aa2595bb891f_13962ac9fd55aec817781e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The the third negative is about asymmetri in design - a change would likely inherit the fourth neative about routability, but they are not quite the same. An agressive timer is indeed suitable for self-inflicted wounds, but also offers more control such is being aggressive during connection setup and less so as the connection proves viable. I'm not sure anything can/should be done, but there better be good reasons to have it since it is an attack vector. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1177#issuecomment-371766103 ----==_mimepart_5aa2595bb891f_13962ac9fd55aec817781e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The the third negative is about asymmetri in design - a change would lik= ely inherit the fourth neative about routability, but they are not quite th= e same.

An agressive timer is indeed suitable for self-inflicted wounds, but als= o offers more control such is being aggressive during connection setup and = less so as the connection proves viable.

I'm not sure anything can/should be done, but there better be good reaso= ns to have it since it is an attack vector.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -619,18 +623,24 @@ are as follows:
   ACK frame.  If true, it is still expected an ack will be received for
   this packet, but it is not congestion controlled.
 
+* is_handshake_packet: A boolean that indicates whether a packet is part of

How does this apply to ack-only packets sent during the handshake?

It we're regarding them as handshake packets here, we probably need to change OnPacketSend, such that time_of_last_sent_handshake_packet is only updated for retransmittable handshake packets.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 During the handshake, an endpoint might receive multiple packets with the long
 header, and thus be given multiple opportunities to update the Destination
 Connection ID it sends.  A client MUST only change the value it sends in the
-Destination Connection ID field in response to the first packet of each type
-(Retry, or Handshake) that it receives; a server MUST only change its value
-based on an Initial packet.  This avoids problems that might arise from
-stateless processing of multiple Initial packets producing different connection
-IDs.
+Destination Connection ID in response to the first packet of each type (Retry,

I'm still concerned this 'first packet of each type' rule ends up being more complex to reason about than the connection ID on the largest processed packet number.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -619,18 +623,24 @@ are as follows:
   ACK frame.  If true, it is still expected an ack will be received for
   this packet, but it is not congestion controlled.
 
+* is_handshake_packet: A boolean that indicates whether a packet is part of

Ah, I was thinking a handshake packet was a packet with handshake data in it, not based on packet type, but I'll restructure to make it clear.

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Generally looks pretty good. Just a few comments. > @@ -614,10 +634,20 @@ off-path attackers. The Initial packet uses long headers with a type value of 0x7F. It carries the first cryptographic handshake message sent by the client. -The client populates the connection ID field with randomly selected values, -unless it has received a packet from the server. If the client has received a -packet from the server, the connection ID field uses the value provided by the -server. +If the client has not previously received a Retry packet from the server, it +populates the Destination Connection ID field with a randomly selected value. +This MUST be at least 8 octets in length. Until a packet is received from the +server, the client MUST use the same random value unless it also changes the +Source Connection ID (which effectively starts a new connection attempt). The +randomized Destination Connection ID is used to determine packet protection +keys, but is not included in server packets. + +If the client received a Retry packet and is sending a second Initial packet, +then it sets the Destination Connection ID to the value from the Source +Connection ID in the Retry packet. Should it be stated here that if the Retry packet changes the Connection ID, then the packet protection keys should be updated to reflect the new Connection ID, and that the second Initial packet should use those keys? > @@ -2326,9 +2390,7 @@ The NEW_CONNECTION_ID is as follows: +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Sequence (i) ... +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ -| | -+ Connection ID (64) + -| | +| Length (8) | Connection ID (32..144) ... +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Does it really make sense to support multiple different length Connection IDs for the same connection? Why not just require all Connection IDs be the same length as the original, and then remove this length field altogether? I'm just thinking of the additional complexity of multiple different length Connection IDs, per connection, would be for hardware offload. > -When the server receives a Initial packet and decides to proceed with the -handshake, it chooses a new value for the connection ID and sends that in a -Retry ({{packet-retry}}) or Handshake ({{packet-handshake}}) packet. The server -MAY choose to use the value that the client initially selects. - -Once the client receives the connection ID that the server has chosen, it MUST -use it for all subsequent Handshake ({{packet-handshake}}) and 1-RTT -({{packet-protected}}) packets but not for 0-RTT packets ({{packet-protected}}). - -Server's Version Negotiation ({{packet-version}}) and Retry ({{packet-retry}}) -packets MUST use connection ID selected by the client. +A connection ID is used to ensure consistent routing of packets. The long +header contains two connection IDs: the Destination Connection ID is chosen by +the recipient of the packet and is used to provide consistent routing; the +Source Connection ID is used to set the Destination Connection ID used by a +peer. Personally, I think changing `a peer` to `the peer` sounds better. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1151#pullrequestreview-102689792 ----==_mimepart_5aa2b145321b5_5d1c2ad16f192ed447047 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@nibanks commented on this pull request.

Generally looks pretty good. Just a few comments.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -614,10 +634,20 @@ off-path attackers.
 The Initial packet uses long headers with a type value of 0x7F.  It carries the
 first cryptographic handshake message sent by the client.
 
-The client populates the connection ID field with randomly selected values,
-unless it has received a packet from the server.  If the client has received a
-packet from the server, the connection ID field uses the value provided by the
-server.
+If the client has not previously received a Retry packet from the server, it
+populates the Destination Connection ID field with a randomly selected value.
+This MUST be at least 8 octets in length.  Until a packet is received from the
+server, the client MUST use the same random value unless it also changes the
+Source Connection ID (which effectively starts a new connection attempt).  The
+randomized Destination Connection ID is used to determine packet protection
+keys, but is not included in server packets.
+
+If the client received a Retry packet and is sending a second Initial packet,
+then it sets the Destination Connection ID to the value from the Source
+Connection ID in the Retry packet.

Should it be stated here that if the Retry packet changes the Connection ID, then the packet protection keys should be updated to reflect the new Connection ID, and that the second Initial packet should use those keys?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2326,9 +2390,7 @@ The NEW_CONNECTION_ID is as follows:
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
 |                          Sequence (i)                       ...
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
-|                                                               |
-+                        Connection ID (64)                     +
-|                                                               |
+|   Length (8)  |          Connection ID (32..144)            ...
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

Does it really make sense to support multiple different length Connection IDs for the same connection? Why not just require all Connection IDs be the same length as the original, and then remove this length field altogether? I'm just thinking of the additional complexity of multiple different length Connection IDs, per connection, would be for hardware offload.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -When the server receives a Initial packet and decides to proceed with the
-handshake, it chooses a new value for the connection ID and sends that in a
-Retry ({{packet-retry}}) or Handshake ({{packet-handshake}}) packet.  The server
-MAY choose to use the value that the client initially selects.
-
-Once the client receives the connection ID that the server has chosen, it MUST
-use it for all subsequent Handshake ({{packet-handshake}}) and 1-RTT
-({{packet-protected}}) packets but not for 0-RTT packets ({{packet-protected}}).
-
-Server's Version Negotiation ({{packet-version}}) and Retry ({{packet-retry}})
-packets MUST use connection ID selected by the client.
+A connection ID is used to ensure consistent routing of packets.  The long
+header contains two connection IDs: the Destination Connection ID is chosen by
+the recipient of the packet and is used to provide consistent routing; the
+Source Connection ID is used to set the Destination Connection ID used by a
+peer.

Personally, I think changing a peer to the peer sounds better.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2326,9 +2390,7 @@ The NEW_CONNECTION_ID is as follows:
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
 |                          Sequence (i)                       ...
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
-|                                                               |
-+                        Connection ID (64)                     +
-|                                                               |
+|   Length (8)  |          Connection ID (32..144)            ...
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

I tend to agree. If it were the case that a connection ID was path specific it would be a different matter, but it is required to work for all paths. It could be argued that removing the ability to change length would complicate multi-path design later on - but that is hard to predict.

Another point if view is that a connection ID might be related to infrastructure provided and it might change suddenly for a large number of live connections. But still, it seems a bit contrived.

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----==_mimepart_5aa2b2cfec1bf_45b2ae9c07deec8836db-- From nobody Fri Mar 9 09:15:13 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 577B4127241 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2018 09:15:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9LI_A9tYDx5Y for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2018 09:15:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from o11.sgmail.github.com (o11.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BDC7E126DFB for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2018 09:15:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=34VEMMHzqDxpm2/dMaH9iZBtmiQ=; b=qvqFAv5+jtFW6ppq MPSyK0/ucrwoiDOEOG27PpMeEAoZIQHUQ+0BHPE+hiKFTQV/1PKZYzlggk1arIyX UpilRjriX2J2iCT6OPAbFJFbcAb19pHEge4tcmTZmNAyZa1Ntxuu1Cvosw5O9tqZ 2StMj+3+OTBa5jrUuZ6ssI3c8TA= Received: by filter1097p1mdw1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter1097p1mdw1-8441-5AA2C11C-22 2018-03-09 17:15:08.744841255 +0000 UTC Received: from smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) by ismtpd0005p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id dLv-LAWoRCihp9ynQEm5JQ for ; Fri, 09 Mar 2018 17:15:08.716 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2018 17:15:08 +0000 (UTC) From: afrind Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When are missing Q-thingey references fatal? (#1176) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aa2c11c99476_79572b22a52f4ed01679a1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: afrind X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak2ADS+Ze06ixqIXvqu7D2MoVRgm1eyqI1nCZT 84ZTNRs0o488li5ICRJQcFLIx6ryZYPHzO+kKekcF6R9uRrgVrtMfbSkwa/Hcl2Qt5AlIQVAR6uPoc SP9r5rpjJXXH//TEsKEhK5sp6bXU8IgLWVT79nvSJ2CqCvVdbILQUy/kjg== Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2018 17:15:11 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aa2c11c99476_79572b22a52f4ed01679a1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think the scenario that leads to this kind of error will be extremely rare, but I dislike the idea of there being some background level of 'expected' decoding errors. It will make it harder to debug/investigate buggy implementations. In the case where the missing reference came from an encoder that is broken or otherwise out of sync with the decoder, worse things could happen from continuing to decode subsequent requests. The only other way I can think of to ensure such a scenario doesn't inadvertently kill a good connection is to have the encoder clear the outstanding references of the reset stream only after it's received the ACK for that RST_STEAM. I'm already not crazy about having transport identifiers tied into header encoding state, and having to further couple to transport acknowledgements would be even worse. Still, a careful encoder could take this approach. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1176#issuecomment-371879005 ----==_mimepart_5aa2c11c99476_79572b22a52f4ed01679a1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I think the scenario that leads to this kind of error will be extremely = rare, but I dislike the idea of there being some background level of 'expec= ted' decoding errors. It will make it harder to debug/investigate buggy im= plementations. In the case where the missing reference came from an encode= r that is broken or otherwise out of sync with the decoder, worse things co= uld happen from continuing to decode subsequent requests.

The only other way I can think of to ensure such a scenario doesn't inad= vertently kill a good connection is to have the encoder clear the outstandi= ng references of the reset stream only after it's received the ACK for that= RST_STEAM. I'm already not crazy about having transport identifiers tied = into header encoding state, and having to further couple to transport ackno= wledgements would be even worse. Still, a careful encoder could take this = approach.

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Reviewing this issue in the context of -10 version. It appears there is = now discussion on this issue in the last paragraph of Section 3.2.1. (Fast= Retransmit). Thus, I think this issue is addressed and will close the issu= e. Yell if you want it reopened.

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+1 that moving to stream errors might introduce greater harm than they s= olve.

This is similar to the more general reset issue we hoped to avoid moving= updates out of the request-response stream.

As in that discussion, another option is to have the encoder refrain fro= m resetting streams that have outstanding headers. I.e. an HQ mapping onl= y solution is possible here:

the encoder side can have a notion of stream going away (don't send new = data, drop any incoming data, don't start any new headers), but wait for he= ader acks before actually sending reset. To stay conservative, it could u= se a timer to trigger sending the reset anyway if the expected ack takes to= o long. [ of course if we went this far, one might argue the whole update = on separate stream approach is no longer needed. ]

Alternatively, if the occurrences of these are rare enough, perhaps stat= us quo of letting such connections close with error is acceptable. A serv= er could track how many streams are reset with headers outstanding to help = guage whether the number of missing header connection close errors are reas= onable.

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Request +streams contain only header blocks, which do not modify the state of the table. + +## Primitives + +The prefixed integer from Section 5.1 of [RFC7541] is used heavily throughout +this document. The string literal, defined by Section 5.2 of [RFC7541], is used +with the following modification. + +HPACK defines string literals to begin on a byte boundary. They begin with a +single flag (indicating whether the string is Huffman-coded), followed by the +Length encoded as a 7-bit prefix integer, and finally Length octets of data. + +QCRAM permits strings to begin other than on a byte boundary. An "N-bit prefix My two cents. I think this and other PRs paint a pretty clear picture of moving further away from HPACK looks like. There are some wins here for sure, but I'm not sure any of them are large enough to convince me that the moving away from HPACK is a good trade-off. I *think* I heard the opposite at the Seattle interim, folks seemed to be favoring pursuit of the smallest changes with the biggest impact. If the bar is that major changes should come with a big win, I'm not convinced that has been demonstrated. I don't feel super strongly, but I'd feel a lot better with feedback from the broader WG. Are we ok with making QPACK largely a re-write, or do we value the possibility to share implementation bits with HPACK? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1141#discussion_r173523004 ----==_mimepart_5aa2cc04aa0df_140983fecc697af3413664 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-qcram.md:

> +
+In order to ensure table consistency and simplify update management, all table
+updates occur on the control stream rather than on request streams. Request
+streams contain only header blocks, which do not modify the state of the table.
+
+## Primitives
+
+The prefixed integer from Section 5.1 of [RFC7541] is used heavily throughout
+this document.  The string literal, defined by Section 5.2 of [RFC7541], is used
+with the following modification.
+
+HPACK defines string literals to begin on a byte boundary.  They begin with a
+single flag (indicating whether the string is Huffman-coded), followed by the
+Length encoded as a 7-bit prefix integer, and finally Length octets of data.
+
+QCRAM permits strings to begin other than on a byte boundary.  An "N-bit prefix

My two cents.

I think this and other PRs paint a pretty clear picture of moving further away from HPACK looks like. There are some wins here for sure, but I'm not sure any of them are large enough to convince me that the moving away from HPACK is a good trade-off. I think I heard the opposite at the Seattle interim, folks seemed to be favoring pursuit of the smallest changes with the biggest impact. If the bar is that major changes should come with a big win, I'm not convinced that has been demonstrated.

I don't feel super strongly, but I'd feel a lot better with feedback from the broader WG. Are we ok with making QPACK largely a re-write, or do we value the possibility to share implementation bits with HPACK?

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In draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md:

>  +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
-|                                                               |
-+                     [Connection ID (64)]                      +
-|                                                               |
+|                Destination Connection ID (0..144)           ...
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

Given the dest conn ID is variable length now, can we maybe have the packet number before the connection id in the header?

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In draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md:

>  +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
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+|                Destination Connection ID (0..144)           ...
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Packet number isn't an invariant. So it cannot precede any invariant field (Connection ID).

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----==_mimepart_5aa2e3ec7b372_2eb3c3f9b143acf34101385-- From nobody Fri Mar 9 11:51:34 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5675127522 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2018 11:51:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.595 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.595 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id z8XdyfYvBYUl for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2018 11:51:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2-ext4.iad.github.net [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6351A1201F8 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2018 11:51:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2018 11:51:30 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1520625090; bh=by87gqwMtJnE7/sMbUkOFmRRwVvuDeW4LeRGU1FQ6Z0=; h=From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=S5oqQ/L29Lk0EQSYD2f8aU3Oc22XxKF72WyMTE55A0okDMd2dTzjiiTH3SuTO7YLP tYitV9WkhNTXX+BzZ2IEPYhrPOYJDI5tlCG24WW3tEEFFGTNHev0OX7S3zR1K14pd/ SMu4dSoAIDQz9Wny5IKDVIhLPRAzIcotQpVDrC58= From: afrind Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Duplication can use different indexing (#1128) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aa2e5c26ccdd_42fc3fc08fcd6f3811644"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: afrind X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2018 19:51:33 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aa2e5c26ccdd_42fc3fc08fcd6f3811644 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In my simulation, duplication is a very rare instruction. With a 4k table, my 250 request HAR issued 4 Duplicate instructions. With an 8kb table, it never happened. If we forgo splitting the instruction space, but only change the control instructions so that Duplicate is reuses Indexed (and keep Table Size Update the same), and we subtract 62, then we could duplicate 63 entries in a single byte, and I don't think there's a big advantage for reversing the index. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1128#issuecomment-371927029 ----==_mimepart_5aa2e5c26ccdd_42fc3fc08fcd6f3811644 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

In my simulation, duplication is a very rare instruction. With a 4k t= able, my 250 request HAR issued 4 Duplicate instructions. With an 8kb ta= ble, it never happened.

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I'm not sure there's any design work that needs to come of this issue, b= ut editorial work in a section describing different possible approaches to = reference strategy.

I think it makes sense to describe the 'draining index' algorithm, and a= lso Buck's proposed optimization. I'm somewhat skeptical many implementati= ons are going to go to the length Martin described in choosing how much fre= e space to keep in the table.

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The answer IMO is that the client goes back to N+1. I don't believe t= his causes any linkability issues -- N onwards is only used with CCID1 on= the first path and N+P1 onwards is only used with CCID2 on the second pa= th.

This definitely goes in the bucket of things we can happily close if w= e encrypt the packet number.

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A server might choose a smaller value, but both sides should close when the earliest end times out. The draft doesn't say anything about this, which is an oversight. I'll fix it.

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Perhaps a post to the list soliciting input from the wider group?

I don't feel super strongly either way (as I mentioned in #1141), I am slightly inc= lined to stay closer to HPACK instruction format. The proposed changes h= ave merit, I'm skeptical that the performance gains will be large. On t= he other hand, I don't think they're so complex that they obviously threa= ten the overall schedule.

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The idle timeout ends without sending CONNECTION_CLOSE, and it can end approximately simultaneously. If both endpoints send CONNECTION_CLOSE and then go to closing, then they might start a packet storm if neither actually looks at packets they receive before retransmitting their close packet (which is permitted). We want idle timeout to pass without packets, so this needs to be closing. Closes #1178 Commit: d6d104bb2526c35724e80ba206d61646afb3516d https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d6d104bb2526c35724e80ba206d61646afb3516d Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-10 (Sat, 10 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1179 from quicwg/idle-expiration Enter closing after the idle timeout Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/486abed55eb4...d6d104bb2526 ----==_mimepart_5aa30ba550f6a_5b002aca42eefc149305-- From nobody Fri Mar 9 14:33:18 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8260F1271DF for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2018 14:33:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.381 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.381 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bJzGmh6a7QTG for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2018 14:33:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2-ext1.iad.github.net [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0667D12420B for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2018 14:33:12 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2018 14:33:11 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1520634791; bh=9BAvoWKp6mT+LpX3XneYGu2NIgL6YdYp8T0quHGCqoI=; h=From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=O5beMkX23AK4g2ltL++S/WiBztKDlzLiMvsN+RoxdQn46zvB9xxfS5o3DgWeqRy0D fDw3yg3bnwP4Pg5C+Gvk7t7+9Iy8B53Cfq/Zw0lY/12GMm8Or3wF9q1tVW/aTULqo7 yqF7iLCyz8GBf9tkC6yUDLmnh/C0CHh8AyUBn3fc= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Closing or draining state after idle timeout? (#1178) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aa30ba72f4b9_3e742ad2af406ecc661dd"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2018 22:33:13 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aa30ba72f4b9_3e742ad2af406ecc661dd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Closed #1178 via #1179. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Closed #1178 via #1179.

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There isn't a good answer here. Unless we encrypt the packet number.

If you send N+1 on the old path and abandon the probed path, what happens when you reach N+Gap ? Mayhem is my guess.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qcram.md:

> +
+In order to ensure table consistency and simplify update management, all table
+updates occur on the control stream rather than on request streams. Request
+streams contain only header blocks, which do not modify the state of the table.
+
+## Primitives
+
+The prefixed integer from Section 5.1 of [RFC7541] is used heavily throughout
+this document.  The string literal, defined by Section 5.2 of [RFC7541], is used
+with the following modification.
+
+HPACK defines string literals to begin on a byte boundary.  They begin with a
+single flag (indicating whether the string is Huffman-coded), followed by the
+Length encoded as a 7-bit prefix integer, and finally Length octets of data.
+
+QCRAM permits strings to begin other than on a byte boundary.  An "N-bit prefix

From my perspective, the encoding of instructions is not a big point of divergence. As this is the top-level of the encoder, and we need new instructions anyway, I found that you need to have a different parser at this layer. Given that the benefits are clear, I don't see why we shouldn't do it.

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----==_mimepart_5aa30da1c0625_70172b242d0e2ec41852b-- From nobody Fri Mar 9 14:45:34 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9654B12783A for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2018 14:45:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.605 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.605 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yD8idvqvNWmn for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2018 14:45:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from o9.sgmail.github.com (o9.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 367061271DF for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2018 14:45:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=0+9vI64AP2bl2AwJ7BbTAn8dx4M=; b=v0NkN/yX869eYv0O z1npScs8NehQiZzkVgjf5gLxGTFCOCC9VntTBlm6mahGPReKCz7VeU7T4J5C3SVZ /2uspa1JiFoVbhPomFoGxhNUGOuS20Mn0xZuIOJOVabHpIfyYq9uxqi1JgNW18h7 lqiEDX0jjzqyOMuCMy0HsRw61UY= Received: by filter0522p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0522p1las1-29853-5AA30E8A-18 2018-03-09 22:45:30.562058233 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0002p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id h5spWLsGTUiW0F3-yPEV6A for ; Fri, 09 Mar 2018 22:45:30.463 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2018 22:45:30 +0000 (UTC) From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Packet Number Gap and Connection Probing (#1174) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aa30e8a5c24e_2e472adbbcceaec4154078"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak3GBStiQJslPc5Kx64qq0i7vVelqTTL4HTsm/ 6QJ2EcI1d+qGEa5MRE0rTzjvD+DCEsKW1ry/q1fEaBuSV7zDMJlJomdosDN3g4AfAaARBbIL9xXk90 PL/KaSYm9CQRNnlu/nl8QE/HgBJwj1p9nY3Hm3XP4j4Bi96CcUa09Ib6qKHKA8fIVU4A0I9HNIR5VZ 8= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2018 22:45:33 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aa30e8a5c24e_2e472adbbcceaec4154078 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The way it is intended to work is that you move progressively forward. So a one-off probe would cause a move from CCID1 on the old path, to CCID2 on the probe to CCID3 on the old path again. Unfortunately, the probing design makes that transaction much more common than anticipated in the packet number gaps design, so there is a risk of running the spare connection IDs down very quickly. Thus, my conclusion: packet number encryption is the only sensible answer. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1174#issuecomment-371966912 ----==_mimepart_5aa30e8a5c24e_2e472adbbcceaec4154078 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The way it is intended to work is that you move progressively forward. = So a one-off probe would cause a move from CCID1 on the old path, to CCID2 = on the probe to CCID3 on the old path again.

Unfortunately, the probing design makes that transaction much more commo= n than anticipated in the packet number gaps design, so there is a risk of = running the spare connection IDs down very quickly.

Thus, my conclusion: packet number encryption is the only sensible answe= r.

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In draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md:

>  +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
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-+                     [Connection ID (64)]                      +
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+|                Destination Connection ID (0..144)           ...
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

Technically, it could, but there would have to be an invariant way of determining the offset of the Connection ID field.

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In addition to Base and Depends, encode Length, the number of valid dynamic table entries prior to encoding the block. Dynamic indexes 1..Length are older than Base Index. Dynamic indexes larger than Length count up from Base Index. Since Depends can be larger than Base Index, rename Depends to Base Index (the largest entry referenced in the block) and encode the Delta between Base Index and the value of Base Index used for encoding. Remove the BLOCKING flag, which is now implicit upon receiving a request stream with Base Index higher than the decoder's Base Index. Instead, add a flag 'EXTENDED_BASE', which is present if the encoder's Base Index changed during an encode. The wire format for frames with EXTENDED_BASE flag is: ``` 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Base Index(8+)| +---------------+ | Base Delta(8+)| +---------------+ | Length (8+)| +---------------+ ``` Here's an example where the encoder began encoding with four entries in the table, and added two during an encode. Let's assume Base Index prior to encoding was 18. Here's how entries would be referenced: ``` E B +---+---+---+---+---+---+ + 4 + 3 + 2 + 1 + 5 + 6 + +---+---+---+---+---+---+ 15 16 17 18 19 20 E = Encoding Base B = Base Index ``` The encoder would produce a block that begin with `0x14 0x02 0x04` Encode algorithm: ``` baseIndex = dynamicTable.baseIndex length = dynamicTable.numEntries numInserts = 0 largestReference = 0 for header in headers: i = staticTable.getIndex(header) if i > 0: encodeIndexReference(streamBuffer, i) continue i = dynamicTable.getAbsoluteIndex(header) if i == 0: largestReference = max(largestReference, i) else if dynamicTable.canIndex(header): encodeInsert(controlBuffer, header) dynamicTable.add(header) numInserts += 1 i = baseIndex + numInserts # absolute index of new entry largestReference = max(largestReference, i) else: encodeLiteral(header) continue if i <= baseIndex: i = baseIndex - i + 1 assert(i <= length) else: i = i - baseIndex + length encodeIndexReference(streamBuffer, i + staticTable.size()) # Write the prefix encodeInteger(prefixBuffer, largestReference, 8) if largestReference > baseIndex: extendedBase = True encodeInteger(prefixBuffer, largestReference - baseIndex, 8) encodeInteger(prefixBuffer, length, 8) else extendedBase = False return (controlBuffer, prefixBuffer + streamBuffer, extendedBase) ``` Decode Algorithm: Header: ``` if extendedBase: largestReference = decodeInteger(buf, 8) encodingBaseIndex = largestReference - decodeInteger(buf, 8) length = decodeInteger(buf, 8) else: largestReference = encodingBaseIndex = decodeInteger(buf, 8) length = 0 ``` Index Processing: ``` index = decodeIndex(buf, N) if index <= staticTable.size(): header = staticTable[index] else: index -= staticTable.size() if length == 0 or index <= length: absoluteIndex = encodingBaseIndex - index + 1 else absoluteIndex = index + encodingBaseIndex - length index = dynamicTable.baseIndex - index + 1 header = dynamicTable[index] } ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Here's my proposal for single pass encoding.

In addition to Base and Depends, encode Length, the number of valid dy= namic table entries prior to encoding the block. Dynamic indexes 1..Leng= th are older than Base Index. Dynamic indexes larger than Length count u= p from Base Index. Since Depends can be larger than Base Index, rename D= epends to Base Index (the largest entry referenced in the block) and enco= de the Delta between Base Index and the value of Base Index used for enco= ding.

Remove the BLOCKING flag, which is now implicit upon receiving a reque= st stream with Base Index higher than the decoder's Base Index. Instead,= add a flag 'EXTENDED_BASE', which is present if the encoder's Base Index= changed during an encode.

The wire format for frames with EXTENDED_BASE flag is:

    0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
   | Base Index(8+)|
   +---------------+
   | Base Delta(8+)|
   +---------------+
   | Length    (8+)|
   +---------------+

Here's an example where the encoder began encoding with four entries i= n the table, and added two during an encode. Let's assume Base Index pri= or to encoding was 18. Here's how entries would be referenced:

              E       B
+---+---+---+---+---+---+
+ 4 + 3 + 2 + 1 + 5 + 6 +
+---+---+---+---+---+---+
 15  16  17  18  19  20

E =3D Encoding Base
B =3D Base Index

The encoder would produce a block that begin with 0x14 0x02 0x04=

Encode algorithm:

baseIndex =3D dynamicTable.baseIndex
length =3D dynamicTable.numEntries
numInserts =3D 0
largestReference =3D 0
for header in headers:
  i =3D staticTable.getIndex(header)
  if i > 0:
    encodeIndexReference(streamBuffer, i)
    continue
  i =3D dynamicTable.getAbsoluteIndex(header)
  if i =3D=3D 0:
    largestReference =3D max(largestReference, i)
  else if dynamicTable.canIndex(header):
    encodeInsert(controlBuffer, header)
    dynamicTable.add(header)
    numInserts +=3D 1
    i =3D baseIndex + numInserts  # absolute index of new entry
    largestReference =3D max(largestReference, i)
  else:
    encodeLiteral(header)
    continue

  if i <=3D baseIndex:
    i =3D baseIndex - i + 1
    assert(i <=3D length)
  else:
    i =3D i - baseIndex + length

  encodeIndexReference(streamBuffer, i + staticTable.size())

# Write the prefix
encodeInteger(prefixBuffer, largestReference, 8)
if largestReference > baseIndex:
  extendedBase =3D True
  encodeInteger(prefixBuffer, largestReference - baseIndex, 8)
  encodeInteger(prefixBuffer, length, 8)
else =

  extendedBase =3D False

return (controlBuffer, prefixBuffer + streamBuffer, extendedBase)

Decode Algorithm:

Header:

if extendedBase:
  largestReference =3D decodeInteger(buf, 8)
  encodingBaseIndex =3D largestReference - decodeInteger(buf, 8)
  length =3D decodeInteger(buf, 8)
else:
  largestReference =3D encodingBaseIndex =3D decodeInteger(buf, 8)
  length =3D 0

Index Processing:

index =3D decodeIndex(buf, N)
if index <=3D staticTable.size():
  header =3D staticTable[index]
else:
  index -=3D staticTable.size()
  if length =3D=3D 0 or index <=3D length:
    absoluteIndex =3D encodingBaseIndex - index + 1
  else
    absoluteIndex =3D index + encodingBaseIndex - length
  index =3D dynamicTable.baseIndex - index + 1
  header =3D dynamicTable[index]
}

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Not so much the details of which bytes are saved where, but more the question is re-use valued or not? I was meaning a post more along the lines of afrind@'s comment above.

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In draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md:

>  +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
-|                                                               |
-+                     [Connection ID (64)]                      +
-|                                                               |
+|                Destination Connection ID (0..144)           ...
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

As Nick implied, I think the best order is version, connection ID(s), then packet number, regardless of what we decide on encrypting packet numbers.

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This is an editorial change. We already have text allowing to send TLP and RTO packets when congestion limited in the respective TLP and RTO sections.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1180

Commit Summary

  • allow sending of TLP and RTO probe packets when congestion limited

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Pros: - it's less complicated having to worry about varying lengths - we don't have to worry about the length encodings being not weird for the frame, and different than the long header Cons: - it makes it harder to parse the frame, because you need external information - it might be overkill; if the problem is that changing the length of connection ID is error prone... don't do that then Maybe @nibanks can add some arguments. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1181 -- Commit Summary -- * Remove connection ID length from NEW_CONNECTION_ID -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (22) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1181.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1181.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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So I'm in two minds about this one.

Pros:

  • it's less complicated having to worry about varying lengths
  • we don't have to worry about the length encodings being not weird for the frame, and different than the long header

Cons:

  • it makes it harder to parse the frame, because you need external information
  • it might be overkill; if the problem is that changing the length of connection ID is error prone... don't do that then

Maybe @nibanks can add some arguments.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1181

Commit Summary

  • Remove connection ID length from NEW_CONNECTION_ID

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I'm not excited about this, because I'm not convinced we would never want to change the length of a connection ID during a connection.

To channel Jana, can you open an issue :)

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----==_mimepart_5aa694d59cfd8_47e72aca15c7eed0105546-- From nobody Mon Mar 12 08:08:56 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E11FA124217 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2018 08:08:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.606 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.606 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qFGkfJdXVD7W for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2018 08:08:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o6.sgmail.github.com (o6.sgmail.github.com [192.254.113.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B28041201FA for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2018 08:08:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=edDnsupVdFvdYgysCMKBXjSCmcQ=; b=AuF+tx2QXRcnTXd1 ZFvQAmcXrumbD7RfgFB7+WmVntbRw4Sp80nfNQeXJHNTnnMQkytH8ci47nLK5KOV mvpYdJM3xJccpZ1mP4kF6IpjD2vOe8boH+9QUwR1dHE8XfKk9f/DEGkZ3l2aBFKb JafydZEQp9mbaggy2OkyH70oD00= Received: by filter0477p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0477p1las1-14419-5AA69805-4 2018-03-12 15:08:53.095924801 +0000 UTC Received: from smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) by ismtpd0044p1mdw1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id RIhWEhhLQtmGE1Z8EMfxGA for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2018 15:08:53.025 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 15:08:53 +0000 (UTC) From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove connection ID length from NEW_CONNECTION_ID (#1181) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aa69804bdcb7_1f783fbac2b38f2820028e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak3wDcqhtEiMAsXEQBa3y/YdAcD/LiBCokW2ib 6fGL+uJnQhiBKR9IjkrUYXuA3RKM7Jar5ng1JmuBtk6LZJLJfnyMIN38nZOmgqyOJto1TH5ddcHYTz ZRWls0pefb9AWT5hUHS4RT0kUt1gh3XgJz2mPzoOgTJQJdxYArWhtkXpGdOBKcrraxYC2hXc54ayFL 8= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 15:08:55 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aa69804bdcb7_1f783fbac2b38f2820028e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree with your Pros. We shouldn't need to worry about supporting multiple Connection ID lengths. As far as making the decoding harder, I agree it makes the decoding of the frames stateful, but decoding the packet as a whole already requires stateful processing. Something like Wireshark already had to remember the Connection ID length in both directions to accurately decode short headers. This change doesn't add any extra state requirement to that. So, I personally don't think it makes it harder. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1181#issuecomment-372343190 ----==_mimepart_5aa69804bdcb7_1f783fbac2b38f2820028e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I agree with your Pros. We shouldn't need to worry about supporting mult= iple Connection ID lengths.

As far as making the decoding harder, I agree it makes the decoding of t= he frames stateful, but decoding the packet as a whole already requires sta= teful processing. Something like Wireshark already had to remember the Conn= ection ID length in both directions to accurately decode short headers. Thi= s change doesn't add any extra state requirement to that. So, I personally = don't think it makes it harder.

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I can open issues. I chose not to in this case.

@nibanks, there is a material difference between stateful processing of the packe= t header - which has certain efficiency constraints that make stateful proc= essing somewhat necessary - and processing frames. While the current frame= syntax requires that frame syntax be completely known, frames can be parse= d without external information. That's a nice property to preserve.

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Some time ago, we agreed that a self-describing frame is something desir= able. There's one frame in gQUIC that doesn't fulfill this property (the ST= OP_WAITING frame), which leads to a bunch of special cases for parsing and = writing these frames. I was very happy to get rid of those.

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@martinthomson I agree it's a nice property to preserve. While, I still prefer making this change, I'd settle for disallowing a change in the length of Connection ID. Would that be an acceptable alternative?

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One use case for changing the length: If you can migrate a user from an anycast IP to a unicast IP, you may be able to use a much shorter connection ID(ie: ~8 bytes instead of ~16)

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That seems less than purely theoretical. I was thinking about long-lived connections and cluster upgrades, but that's far easier to reason about.

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----==_mimepart_5aa69e73cfb8c_68b43fdd69082f389484-- From nobody Mon Mar 12 08:36:49 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3F2F1275F4 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2018 08:36:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.029 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.029 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RAFON4QRtssa for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2018 08:36:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o10.sgmail.github.com (o10.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 951F3126DED for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2018 08:36:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=lUJ4B3a2udaFgmUBjQip/FPlcbc=; b=ALRrP/oZSW0chRQP gMf9ptcRBbVfNd18WjmLp2xvt2FggOcVIDvUgg8S6ct9IV/mE8BIp8zi7RKbb4ge tm2khdsyReBV/QZ1Jqd5bELhIcsD83W+w3TkqQdWuqDmBe49AfLsNfSCbz+QZm3x 9uIvApxeJ8I+WZuIxNPjc74y8ow= Received: by filter0559p1mdw1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0559p1mdw1-14610-5AA69E89-3 2018-03-12 15:36:41.08316834 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0004p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id K8ggGi5bQQCyIbdp0dS-6w for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2018 15:36:41.043 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 15:36:41 +0000 (UTC) From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove connection ID length from NEW_CONNECTION_ID (#1181) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aa69e88d5031_7f412b135781eecc305bc"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak30TA5v6EXCfOiQpXpS2LYMcBTCZrcDt2BbWS ozHEhdqWf/aQ+watokY1BhUCIFJspF7/wGRQ+uXzSMM9Xap5g7gtcM/n5vyLWfy4iDJMeyldx+HONc cpO8HxZsY4Ycd2pfuaBb+F6zo+cYBV2Z2F/0dHYfdtnVU6h2YEGYcAXziZa37W+PvTnkkg1WuqFFd/ 8= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 15:36:48 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aa69e88d5031_7f412b135781eecc305bc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just because a new Connection ID is provided, doesn't mean it will be used. If the goal is to support a change in Connection ID length because a new length is required or recommended for efficiency, that sounds like a new feature really. To support variable length Connection IDs will require the HW offload to also support variable length, and that's just one more thing to add to the complexity there. It will also require packet parsers, like Wireshark to do trial decoding for short headers in those situations where the Connection ID length was changed. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1181#issuecomment-372353574 ----==_mimepart_5aa69e88d5031_7f412b135781eecc305bc Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Just because a new Connection ID is provided, doesn't mean it will be us= ed. If the goal is to support a change in Connection ID length because a ne= w length is required or recommended for efficiency, that sounds like a new = feature really.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -885,7 +885,9 @@ specified in bytes due to finer control and the ease of appropriate byte
 counting {{?RFC3465}}.
 
 QUIC hosts MUST NOT send packets if they would increase bytes_in_flight
-(defined in {{vars-of-interest}}) beyond the available congestion window.
+(defined in {{vars-of-interest}}) beyond the available congestion window, unless
+the packet is a probe packet sent after the TLP or RTO alarm fires, as described
+in {{tlp}} and {{rto}}.

Now it looks like this is a definitive list, but we have an exemption for packets that only carry ACK frames as well.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -885,7 +885,9 @@ specified in bytes due to finer control and the ease of appropriate byte
 counting {{?RFC3465}}.
 
 QUIC hosts MUST NOT send packets if they would increase bytes_in_flight
-(defined in {{vars-of-interest}}) beyond the available congestion window.
+(defined in {{vars-of-interest}}) beyond the available congestion window, unless
+the packet is a probe packet sent after the TLP or RTO alarm fires, as described
+in {{tlp}} and {{rto}}.

ACK only packets don't increase bytes_in_flight, but that does remind me that handshake packets also may increase bytes_in_flight above the congestion window.

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I will note that based on the current set of open issues and PRs, QCRAM may diverge from HPACK more over time. The core idea of a shared rotating dynamic table doesn't seem to be going anywhere, however. Commit: 16d00c54116e0a8f29cee1fc747a8bdc6e880a6c https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/16d00c54116e0a8f29cee1fc747a8bdc6e880a6c Author: Alan Frindell Date: 2018-03-06 (Tue, 06 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- Also update HTTP draft, but left QCRAM reference in the changelog Commit: 4a5850f471232941fefea539002c240c6fc510f4 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4a5850f471232941fefea539002c240c6fc510f4 Author: afrind Date: 2018-03-12 (Mon, 12 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md R draft-ietf-quic-qcram.md A draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1164 from quicwg/qcram_rename Rename QCRAM to QPACK Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/31141215cfc0...4a5850f47123 ----==_mimepart_5aa6a0c2e6c07_2d2f2aea63a25bfc14334c-- From nobody Mon Mar 12 08:48:22 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A3CC127599 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2018 08:48:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.412 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.412 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RS8Aor3qbXhL for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2018 08:48:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o4.sgmail.github.com (o4.sgmail.github.com [192.254.112.99]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E770126DED for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2018 08:48:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=gJrUOpQze/OsvMA3TbgTwtuJ020=; b=SbrnvFOlXLnXgIZ3 rGLPc7RsFAnj9TEm+UgXJDmvzRa17YSRP5gEKRkzkO1YY5glb4Be9NNr+QDJSEIH MenDDN6Yg/GZKPDtO4UTb3IINW8FFDfviNQkhtmMEQe931EUedKU5T/GQ4HEc179 +HDPKtUvekWY925GYi45qpt4QWA= Received: by filter0464p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0464p1las1-4941-5AA6A141-27 2018-03-12 15:48:17.812035355 +0000 UTC Received: from smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) by ismtpd0046p1mdw1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id 6EqXfynVSLC3qR3Z-6jO7g for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2018 15:48:17.594 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 15:48:17 +0000 (UTC) From: afrind Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] qcram document title should include the term "QCRAM" (#1133) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aa6a1415e3d9_72213ff1764c8f2c97851"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: afrind X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak0a/U3F4mj3EB0FKP4ENCu81L7x7Osx6bjUFl xIF/8O6ZcuBmwII/1Tzxlk8CAbs8vYFIvuD78GyfzPBDaGpLDMO784v4zrpMKPpfmcbRgTq0SZ6bfc X/BY/30+Pv+L1QwA3p8qVNMed4be2HuFc0U6gRIufby0HoWMoqQAGli2RA== Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 15:48:20 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aa6a1415e3d9_72213ff1764c8f2c97851 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Closed #1133. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -885,7 +885,9 @@ specified in bytes due to finer control and the ease of appropriate byte
 counting {{?RFC3465}}.
 
 QUIC hosts MUST NOT send packets if they would increase bytes_in_flight
-(defined in {{vars-of-interest}}) beyond the available congestion window.
+(defined in {{vars-of-interest}}) beyond the available congestion window, unless
+the packet is a probe packet sent after the TLP or RTO alarm fires, as described
+in {{tlp}} and {{rto}}.

Handshake packets are not congestion limited? Where does it say so?

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -885,7 +885,9 @@ specified in bytes due to finer control and the ease of appropriate byte
 counting {{?RFC3465}}.
 
 QUIC hosts MUST NOT send packets if they would increase bytes_in_flight
-(defined in {{vars-of-interest}}) beyond the available congestion window.
+(defined in {{vars-of-interest}}) beyond the available congestion window, unless
+the packet is a probe packet sent after the TLP or RTO alarm fires, as described
+in {{tlp}} and {{rto}}.

Sorry, I meant that similarly to TLP or RTO packets, handshake packets count towards bytes in flight, but can be sent even if bytes in flight exceeds congestion window.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -885,7 +885,9 @@ specified in bytes due to finer control and the ease of appropriate byte
 counting {{?RFC3465}}.
 
 QUIC hosts MUST NOT send packets if they would increase bytes_in_flight
-(defined in {{vars-of-interest}}) beyond the available congestion window.
+(defined in {{vars-of-interest}}) beyond the available congestion window, unless
+the packet is a probe packet sent after the TLP or RTO alarm fires, as described
+in {{tlp}} and {{rto}}.

Can you point me to the section where this is specified? I can't find it.

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I do not think we should make this change. It's much harder to parse the frame if it's not self-contained.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -885,7 +885,9 @@ specified in bytes due to finer control and the ease of appropriate byte
 counting {{?RFC3465}}.
 
 QUIC hosts MUST NOT send packets if they would increase bytes_in_flight
-(defined in {{vars-of-interest}}) beyond the available congestion window.
+(defined in {{vars-of-interest}}) beyond the available congestion window, unless
+the packet is a probe packet sent after the TLP or RTO alarm fires, as described
+in {{tlp}} and {{rto}}.

I had this in mind: "When the alarm fires, the sender MUST retransmit all unacknowledged handshake data. On each consecutive firing of the handshake alarm, the sender SHOULD double the handshake timeout and set an alarm for this period."

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I just can't see those as problems Nick. HW offload will need to produc= e connection IDs of arbitrary length. And consumption is entirely under yo= ur control, so it's a feature you don't have to use. Wireshark will have a= ll the keys and connection IDs, so I don't see a big problem (unless one co= nnection ID is a prefix of another, and that's pathological enough that I'm= sure people will forgive failure to parse over trial decryption).

See far more against than for, I think we're good as planned.

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s5.7 contains the following:

A packet number is decoded by finding the packet number value that is closest to the next expected packet. The next expected packet is the highest received packet number plus one. For example, if the highest successfully authenticated packet had a packet number of 0xaa82f30e, then a packet containing a 16-bit value of 0x1f94 will be decoded as 0xaa831f94.

I read this a couple of times and the first time I got:
highest packed number = 0xaa82f30e + 1 = 0xaa82f30f +0x1f94 = aa8312A3
But, if I drop the bytes that are the same length as what's sent 4 for 0x1f94 form 0xaa82f30e you get 0xaa82 then add 1 and 0x194 I get 0xaa831f94. Maybe there's a better way to say this.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -577,12 +589,20 @@ The layout of a Version Negotiation packet is:
 ~~~
 {: #version-negotiation-format title="Version Negotiation Packet"}
 
-The value in the Unused field is selected randomly by the server. The Connection
-ID field echoes the corresponding value from the triggering client packet.  This
-allows clients some assurance that the server received the packet and that the
-Version Negotiation packet is in fact from the server.  The Version field MUST
-be set to 0x00000000.  The remainder of the Version Negotiation packet is a list
-of 32-bit versions which the server supports.
+The value in the Unused field is selected randomly by the server.
+
+The server MUST include the value from the Source Connection ID field of the
+packet it receives in the Destination Connection ID field.  The value for Source
+Connection ID MUST be copied from the Destination Connection ID of the received
+packet, which is initially randomly selected by a client.  Echoing both

These first two sentences are redundant. I think you can remove the first sentence.

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Just a few minor nits > + +During the handshake, packets with the long header are used to establish the +connection ID that each endpoint uses. Each endpoint uses the Source Connection +ID field to specify the connection ID that is used in the Destination Connection +ID field of packets being sent to them. Upon receiving a packet, each endpoint +sets the Destination Connection ID it sends to match the value of the Source +Connection ID that they receive. + +During the handshake, an endpoint might receive multiple packets with the long +header, and thus be given multiple opportunities to update the Destination +Connection ID it sends. A client MUST only change the value it sends in the +Destination Connection ID in response to the first packet of each type it +receives from the server (Retry or Handshake); a server MUST set its value based +on the Initial packet. Any additional changes are not permitted; subsequent +packets of those types include a different Source Connection ID, they MUST be +discarded. This avoids problems that might arise from stateless processing of This sentence needs grammar. I think you might be missing an "if" in "if subsequent packets of those types ..." > +ID field of packets being sent to them. Upon receiving a packet, each endpoint +sets the Destination Connection ID it sends to match the value of the Source +Connection ID that they receive. + +During the handshake, an endpoint might receive multiple packets with the long +header, and thus be given multiple opportunities to update the Destination +Connection ID it sends. A client MUST only change the value it sends in the +Destination Connection ID in response to the first packet of each type it +receives from the server (Retry or Handshake); a server MUST set its value based +on the Initial packet. Any additional changes are not permitted; subsequent +packets of those types include a different Source Connection ID, they MUST be +discarded. This avoids problems that might arise from stateless processing of +multiple Initial packets producing different connection IDs. + +Short headers only include the Destination Connection ID and omit the explicit +length. The length of the Destination Connecton ID field is expected to be s/Connecton/Connection/ > +header, and thus be given multiple opportunities to update the Destination +Connection ID it sends. A client MUST only change the value it sends in the +Destination Connection ID in response to the first packet of each type it +receives from the server (Retry or Handshake); a server MUST set its value based +on the Initial packet. Any additional changes are not permitted; subsequent +packets of those types include a different Source Connection ID, they MUST be +discarded. This avoids problems that might arise from stateless processing of +multiple Initial packets producing different connection IDs. + +Short headers only include the Destination Connection ID and omit the explicit +length. The length of the Destination Connecton ID field is expected to be +known to endpoints. Endpoints with a load balancer that uses a connection ID +can agree to a fixed or minimum length for connection IDs with necessary +information in the fixed portion. If that fixed portion instead encodes an +explicit length, the entire connection ID can vary in length and still be used +by the load balancer. This part about load balancers is confusing. I would at least make it a separate paragraph. I do wonder if this is necessary ... it's basically a suggestion for how load balancers are implemented, and I would be more explicit about that in this para. Here's a suggested rephrasing: "Endpoints using a connection-ID based load balancer could agree with the load balancer on a fixed or minimum length and on an encoding for connection IDs. This fixed portion could encode an explicit length, which allows the entire connection ID to vary in length and still be used by the load balancer." > @@ -901,33 +958,30 @@ Incoming packets are classified on receipt. Packets can either be associated with an existing connection, or - for servers - potentially create a new connection. -Hosts try to associate the packet with an existing connection. If the -packet has a connection ID corresponding to an existing connection, QUIC +Hosts try to associate the packet with an existing connection. If the packet has s/the packet/a packet/ > ### Client Packet Handling {#client-pkt-handling} -If a client receives a packet with an unknown connection ID, and it matches -the tuple of a connection with no received packets, it is a reply to an -Initial packet with a server-generated connection ID and will be processed -accordingly. Clients SHOULD discard any packets with new connection IDs that -do not meet these criteria. - -Note that a successfully associated packet may be a Version Negotiation -packet, which is handled in accordance with {{handle-vn}}. +Valid packets sent to clients always include a Destination Connection ID that +matches the value the client selects. Clients that choose to receive +zero-length connection IDs can use the address/port tuple to identify a +connection. Packets that don't match an existing connection can be discarded. s/can be discarded/MAY be discarded/ -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Just a few minor nits

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+During the handshake, packets with the long header are used to establish the
+connection ID that each endpoint uses.  Each endpoint uses the Source Connection
+ID field to specify the connection ID that is used in the Destination Connection
+ID field of packets being sent to them.  Upon receiving a packet, each endpoint
+sets the Destination Connection ID it sends to match the value of the Source
+Connection ID that they receive.
+
+During the handshake, an endpoint might receive multiple packets with the long
+header, and thus be given multiple opportunities to update the Destination
+Connection ID it sends.  A client MUST only change the value it sends in the
+Destination Connection ID in response to the first packet of each type it
+receives from the server (Retry or Handshake); a server MUST set its value based
+on the Initial packet.  Any additional changes are not permitted; subsequent
+packets of those types include a different Source Connection ID, they MUST be
+discarded.  This avoids problems that might arise from stateless processing of

This sentence needs grammar. I think you might be missing an "if" in "if subsequent packets of those types ..."

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +ID field of packets being sent to them.  Upon receiving a packet, each endpoint
+sets the Destination Connection ID it sends to match the value of the Source
+Connection ID that they receive.
+
+During the handshake, an endpoint might receive multiple packets with the long
+header, and thus be given multiple opportunities to update the Destination
+Connection ID it sends.  A client MUST only change the value it sends in the
+Destination Connection ID in response to the first packet of each type it
+receives from the server (Retry or Handshake); a server MUST set its value based
+on the Initial packet.  Any additional changes are not permitted; subsequent
+packets of those types include a different Source Connection ID, they MUST be
+discarded.  This avoids problems that might arise from stateless processing of
+multiple Initial packets producing different connection IDs.
+
+Short headers only include the Destination Connection ID and omit the explicit
+length.  The length of the Destination Connecton ID field is expected to be

s/Connecton/Connection/

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +header, and thus be given multiple opportunities to update the Destination
+Connection ID it sends.  A client MUST only change the value it sends in the
+Destination Connection ID in response to the first packet of each type it
+receives from the server (Retry or Handshake); a server MUST set its value based
+on the Initial packet.  Any additional changes are not permitted; subsequent
+packets of those types include a different Source Connection ID, they MUST be
+discarded.  This avoids problems that might arise from stateless processing of
+multiple Initial packets producing different connection IDs.
+
+Short headers only include the Destination Connection ID and omit the explicit
+length.  The length of the Destination Connecton ID field is expected to be
+known to endpoints.  Endpoints with a load balancer that uses a connection ID
+can agree to a fixed or minimum length for connection IDs with necessary
+information in the fixed portion.  If that fixed portion instead encodes an
+explicit length, the entire connection ID can vary in length and still be used
+by the load balancer.

This part about load balancers is confusing. I would at least make it a separate paragraph. I do wonder if this is necessary ... it's basically a suggestion for how load balancers are implemented, and I would be more explicit about that in this para. Here's a suggested rephrasing:

"Endpoints using a connection-ID based load balancer could agree with the load balancer on a fixed or minimum length and on an encoding for connection IDs. This fixed portion could encode an explicit length, which allows the entire connection ID to vary in length and still be used by the load balancer."

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -901,33 +958,30 @@ Incoming packets are classified on receipt.  Packets can either be associated
 with an existing connection, or - for servers - potentially create a new
 connection.
 
-Hosts try to associate the packet with an existing connection. If the
-packet has a connection ID corresponding to an existing connection, QUIC
+Hosts try to associate the packet with an existing connection. If the packet has

s/the packet/a packet/

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 
 ### Client Packet Handling {#client-pkt-handling}
 
-If a client receives a packet with an unknown connection ID, and it matches
-the tuple of a connection with no received packets, it is a reply to an
-Initial packet with a server-generated connection ID and will be processed
-accordingly. Clients SHOULD discard any packets with new connection IDs that
-do not meet these criteria.
-
-Note that a successfully associated packet may be a Version Negotiation
-packet, which is handled in accordance with {{handle-vn}}.
+Valid packets sent to clients always include a Destination Connection ID that
+matches the value the client selects.  Clients that choose to receive
+zero-length connection IDs can use the address/port tuple to identify a
+connection.  Packets that don't match an existing connection can be discarded.

s/can be discarded/MAY be discarded/

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Obviously people will feel inclined to nitpick at the length encoding. Feel free, but I think that I have good reasons for my choices there. The NEW_CONNECTION_ID thing is tricky. As was the analysis around the handshake packet keys. Also, note the trick in Version Negotiation packets about swapping the connection IDs. That makes client packet handling much simpler. The big loss is in stateless reset, which I think that I've covered well enough. Closes #1101. Commit: d925ba0e27fd39e97fb46bd11e1dcaf097a00a74 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d925ba0e27fd39e97fb46bd11e1dcaf097a00a74 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-06 (Tue, 06 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Address review comments, closes #1052 Commit: d8a59b3dbfd3c48bfeb1ef04be9dfe78ad42245b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d8a59b3dbfd3c48bfeb1ef04be9dfe78ad42245b Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-06 (Tue, 06 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Review-based tweakin' Commit: b6db6fae2815b363b6b7f46b8f001eb88f21b56e https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b6db6fae2815b363b6b7f46b8f001eb88f21b56e Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-06 (Tue, 06 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Closes #1146 too Commit: 5343125a595cf4ecde3d921c6f6dd38d2ac89af9 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5343125a595cf4ecde3d921c6f6dd38d2ac89af9 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-06 (Tue, 06 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Closes #821 too Commit: acf8bfe99785a6617962d7a4786cc389f0d7b84b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/acf8bfe99785a6617962d7a4786cc389f0d7b84b Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-06 (Tue, 06 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Let's not flip around too often unnecessarily Commit: febac4d3d619821f8e1f3d3a2c61326f7644f154 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/febac4d3d619821f8e1f3d3a2c61326f7644f154 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-06 (Tue, 06 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- Fix length labels Commit: 436786f8f116c40e0236bed97d429bff67c56b8d https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/436786f8f116c40e0236bed97d429bff67c56b8d Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-06 (Tue, 06 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- -n Commit: 2764c5c388f858f1cb18c6297a66af043676b14b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2764c5c388f858f1cb18c6297a66af043676b14b Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-07 (Wed, 07 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Reducing minimum connection ID length to 4 octets Commit: 7bfa8ab3ae3db5a9ccacc51dc06f614bc3706374 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7bfa8ab3ae3db5a9ccacc51dc06f614bc3706374 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-07 (Wed, 07 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Sums iz haard Commit: d7a18a031595190971e419dddefd4d8b15b41461 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d7a18a031595190971e419dddefd4d8b15b41461 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-08 (Thu, 08 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Moar bad numerz Commit: dc887e85a50ece81bfbb87c44dfaf27d91c42f28 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/dc887e85a50ece81bfbb87c44dfaf27d91c42f28 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-08 (Thu, 08 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- My sed-fu is lacking Commit: c6c06e50504ad98dcf4040296804ca7a48121134 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c6c06e50504ad98dcf4040296804ca7a48121134 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-09 (Fri, 09 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- For @siyengar/@ianswett regarding connection ID construction Commit: 3ea70b965749b0525468a09b33b55dcff9eb0347 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3ea70b965749b0525468a09b33b55dcff9eb0347 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-09 (Fri, 09 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Some review-related 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Make draft small again.

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Closes #305.

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Parked until everyone gets onto the invariants. Somewhat dependent upon Packet Number Encryption #1079

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3896,6 +3890,15 @@ secure key, the attacker will not be able to generate forward-secure protected
 packets with ACK frames.
 
 
+## Opportunistic ACK Attack
+
+An endpoint that acknowledges packets it has not received might cause a
+congestion controller to permit sending at rates beyond what the network
+supports.  An endpoint MAY skip packet numbers when sending packets to detect
+this.  An endpoint can then drop connection state and stop sending packets
+toward the misbehaving peer.

That just means closing the connection, doesn't it? Why don't we say it explicitly?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3896,6 +3890,15 @@ secure key, the attacker will not be able to generate forward-secure protected
 packets with ACK frames.
 
 
+## Opportunistic ACK Attack
+
+An endpoint that acknowledges packets it has not received might cause a
+congestion controller to permit sending at rates beyond what the network
+supports.  An endpoint MAY skip packet numbers when sending packets to detect
+this.  An endpoint can then drop connection state and stop sending packets
+toward the misbehaving peer.

Because "closing" generally means generating an error code, etc. to inform a peer that it made a mistake. This is malicious behavior. Also, by not making it normative, we leave room for any implementation-specific responses.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3896,6 +3890,15 @@ secure key, the attacker will not be able to generate forward-secure protected
 packets with ACK frames.
 
 
+## Opportunistic ACK Attack
+
+An endpoint that acknowledges packets it has not received might cause a
+congestion controller to permit sending at rates beyond what the network
+supports.  An endpoint MAY skip packet numbers when sending packets to detect
+this.  An endpoint can then drop connection state and stop sending packets

this -> this behavior

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----==_mimepart_5aa7dc242aa30_42e13f97b6cf0f34432d5-- From nobody Tue Mar 13 07:12:01 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 156B2126C19 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2018 07:12:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.498 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.498 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0JxcBr24L8IM for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2018 07:11:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from m69-169.mailgun.net (m69-169.mailgun.net [166.78.69.169]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0F1D1124B0A for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2018 07:11:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; v=1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; q=dns/txt; s=mailo; t=1520950318; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type: Mime-Version: Subject: Message-ID: To: Reply-To: From: Date: Sender; bh=t0oxpqVLCB6zfFPWN48BspwHtdu1iHQCKp4bMet5uls=; b=F+EztQ47iu7sBgZM8vO/Dd/Ja0/x8eAQYc76wY6PnUOSo8f7vD81Fhb7LcvdVNz6DArkJip1 0pVqkbNy1eE027Guz7dm6AUDHTBOHE9V3IG2DcO7ihw7PrBsoMdcfKI+lejoznJjpb2H33pT uMBz/IXfJtNEOdoyhe7ZgByXCEU= X-Mailgun-Sid: WyJhNzYyYiIsICJxdWljLWlzc3Vlc0BpZXRmLm9yZyIsICI0MGYiXQ== X-Mailgun-Sending-Ip: 166.78.69.169 Sender: martin.thomson=gmail.com@github.com Received: from github.com (Unknown [192.30.252.44]) by mxa.mailgun.org with ESMTP id 5aa7dc2e.7f815441ab70-smtp-out-n02; Tue, 13 Mar 2018 14:11:58 -0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 07:11:57 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: <5aa7dc2dd52f9_41fd2af688b05c0856548@hookshot-fe-6e9b612.cp1-iad.github.net.mail> Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] 3822cf: Move opportunistic ACK defense to security conside... 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I will note that based on the current set of open issues and PRs, QCRAM may diverge from HPACK more over time. The core idea of a shared rotating dynamic table doesn't seem to be going anywhere, however. Commit: 16d00c54116e0a8f29cee1fc747a8bdc6e880a6c https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/16d00c54116e0a8f29cee1fc747a8bdc6e880a6c Author: Alan Frindell Date: 2018-03-06 (Tue, 06 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- Also update HTTP draft, but left QCRAM reference in the changelog Commit: 4d144674d55a79d157f7dbbb360893ace26bee4f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4d144674d55a79d157f7dbbb360893ace26bee4f Author: martinduke Date: 2018-03-06 (Tue, 06 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Explicit Congestion Window Limit (#1170) Explicitly states the core limitation that congestion control imposes on a sender, right at the front of the section. It also includes a pointer to the place that defines exactly what bytes are covered. Commit: f7e9f8078503b8a3e381cd6a8cdc61fcd5616e06 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f7e9f8078503b8a3e381cd6a8cdc61fcd5616e06 Author: ianswett Date: 2018-03-06 (Tue, 06 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- ACK Optimization (#1159) * ACK Optimization * Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md * Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Commit: 2764c5c388f858f1cb18c6297a66af043676b14b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2764c5c388f858f1cb18c6297a66af043676b14b Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-07 (Wed, 07 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Reducing minimum connection ID length to 4 octets Commit: 7bfa8ab3ae3db5a9ccacc51dc06f614bc3706374 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7bfa8ab3ae3db5a9ccacc51dc06f614bc3706374 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-07 (Wed, 07 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Sums iz haard Commit: 7146f666cff33254b21a921e72f7804d70004473 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7146f666cff33254b21a921e72f7804d70004473 Author: knekritz Date: 2018-03-06 (Tue, 06 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Forbid using TLS records for padding after the handshake. Commit: 486abed55eb4b036ccfcfb2e043a71ee37ad36f7 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/486abed55eb4b036ccfcfb2e043a71ee37ad36f7 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-07 (Wed, 07 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1173 from knekritz/master Forbid using TLS records for padding after the handshake. Commit: d7a18a031595190971e419dddefd4d8b15b41461 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d7a18a031595190971e419dddefd4d8b15b41461 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-08 (Thu, 08 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Moar bad numerz Commit: dc887e85a50ece81bfbb87c44dfaf27d91c42f28 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/dc887e85a50ece81bfbb87c44dfaf27d91c42f28 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-08 (Thu, 08 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- My sed-fu is lacking Commit: c6c06e50504ad98dcf4040296804ca7a48121134 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c6c06e50504ad98dcf4040296804ca7a48121134 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-09 (Fri, 09 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- For @siyengar/@ianswett regarding connection ID construction Commit: 3ea70b965749b0525468a09b33b55dcff9eb0347 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3ea70b965749b0525468a09b33b55dcff9eb0347 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-09 (Fri, 09 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Some review-related changes and polish Commit: dca4b6f9f1ed1e47c2836cea447bf3064c159870 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/dca4b6f9f1ed1e47c2836cea447bf3064c159870 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-09 (Fri, 09 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Enter closing after the idle timeout The draft was a little unclear on this point and its important. The idle timeout ends without sending CONNECTION_CLOSE, and it can end approximately simultaneously. If both endpoints send CONNECTION_CLOSE and then go to closing, then they might start a packet storm if neither actually looks at packets they receive before retransmitting their close packet (which is permitted). We want idle timeout to pass without packets, so this needs to be closing. Closes #1178 Commit: d6d104bb2526c35724e80ba206d61646afb3516d https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d6d104bb2526c35724e80ba206d61646afb3516d Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-10 (Sat, 10 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1179 from quicwg/idle-expiration Enter closing after the idle timeout Commit: 91caab82ea779af5532e567681751af0829f2166 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/91caab82ea779af5532e567681751af0829f2166 Author: ianswett Date: 2018-03-12 (Mon, 12 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Define time_of_last_sent_handshake_packet (#1171) * Define time_of_last_sent_handshake_packet Fixes Issue #962 * Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md * Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md * Marten's comments Commit: 4e837b2dae103afa2fe9fb8a8e0db681a175db49 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4e837b2dae103afa2fe9fb8a8e0db681a175db49 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-12 (Mon, 12 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Fixups Commit: 31141215cfc0dd63ebbdfa7141e10b536b4b31bc https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/31141215cfc0dd63ebbdfa7141e10b536b4b31bc Author: Marten Seemann Date: 2018-03-12 (Mon, 12 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- allow sending of TLP and RTO probe packets when congestion limited (#1180) Commit: 4a5850f471232941fefea539002c240c6fc510f4 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4a5850f471232941fefea539002c240c6fc510f4 Author: afrind Date: 2018-03-12 (Mon, 12 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md R draft-ietf-quic-qcram.md A draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1164 from quicwg/qcram_rename Rename QCRAM to QPACK Commit: 0d51024752d67da74c725ad8df4df12a990099b2 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0d51024752d67da74c725ad8df4df12a990099b2 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-13 (Tue, 13 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Small tweaks regarding the change to dcid Commit: 3593b0e0fa2e682c7df93217e678835fe27ec8bc https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3593b0e0fa2e682c7df93217e678835fe27ec8bc Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2018-03-13 (Tue, 13 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M README.md Log Message: ----------- README for QPACK name change Commit: 9d1512f32b0c8a2db2ee64d7ea6e66737ac1224e https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9d1512f32b0c8a2db2ee64d7ea6e66737ac1224e Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-13 (Tue, 13 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Jana's improvements Commit: 7e65291312e3daf69df8428d44f98ec5b9af8d08 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7e65291312e3daf69df8428d44f98ec5b9af8d08 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-13 (Tue, 13 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1151 from quicwg/symmetric-connection-id Symmetric connection IDs Commit: 3cb9e1a70621f0fb5e6e86d1eb90b20e54abdc52 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3cb9e1a70621f0fb5e6e86d1eb90b20e54abdc52 Author: janaiyengar Date: 2018-03-13 (Tue, 13 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Remove overview section and add some to intro (#1184) * Prune overview section and add some to intro * add flow control * add flow control Commit: 3969625115cf6795d629c2dc1dcc38eb60380696 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3969625115cf6795d629c2dc1dcc38eb60380696 Author: Sean Turner Date: 2018-03-13 (Tue, 13 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Client Intial to client Initial (#1183) * Client Intial to client Initial * removing client Commit: 3822cfda8b3462363fb2c1cb8f8d24df56c10771 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3822cfda8b3462363fb2c1cb8f8d24df56c10771 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-13 (Tue, 13 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Move opportunistic ACK defense to security considerations (#1185) Closes #305. 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  • Tweak to optimistic ack attack

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Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aa7dc0cd8a9d_255c2accf0917c1410624c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 14:22:33 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aa7dc0cd8a9d_255c2accf0917c1410624c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Branch: refs/heads/opp-ack Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: 6b81e60fea6b1293094c100dc438e8871d2c3006 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6b81e60fea6b1293094c100dc438e8871d2c3006 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-13 (Tue, 13 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Move opportunistic ACK defense to security considerations Closes #305. ----==_mimepart_5aa7dc0cd8a9d_255c2accf0917c1410624c-- From nobody Tue Mar 13 07:22:45 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C50961200B9 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2018 07:22:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.391 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.391 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Lys-mOLteGT7 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2018 07:22:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o3.sgmail.github.com (o3.sgmail.github.com [192.254.112.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 272861274D2 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2018 07:22:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=brhZrmops3AwRdus1I55t7ITRf4=; b=MymfEIJp11hn7mKF IRAp3bf0qTsTASD5on7nCX2GwVXZWxBGfN/p5Xt2Y68AJw7n1a67SHZUDQenOppS BRAuBsWwt6MCPMsRFxJvXE99tcFqrdiO6qSWB7IWHTxOfAedqIqvoCdJcxGWBmv0 mRs7nn+z8ftj49vYMLsC/NmSVVc= Received: by filter0435p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0435p1iad2-29709-5AA7DEB0-20 2018-03-13 14:22:40.884696949 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0025p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id VUmoa1H1SQS2ULb0EgH2pg for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2018 14:22:41.120 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 14:22:41 +0000 (UTC) From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] ALTSVC Frame (#371) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aa7deb0ab53b_47392ab4b6b30ed0203992"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak2JdJmkK0oCOgnq8jUODeoRBikEzZZSXk/4HI ixsxiSLvtiJ+p5RiWdqzjJDzmBQIDXU9FvM1WwSIEpPXlJA/0CMibRTokz9XTk97j5cszNalR8CIe5 C2vS1zSOXyeD/btbvp6hoRbz/xRzcb4NEI/wfxok4odcIPoHfguSEmH0MsS77YV/9Eg0lawOZzEwLt Y= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 14:22:45 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aa7deb0ab53b_47392ab4b6b30ed0203992 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Parking. 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Parking. This is the responsibility of the HTTP WG, but we do want to make sure that it is handled soon after QUIC ships, if not at the same time.

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Really? I thought it would be the opposite.

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Merged #1186.

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@igorlord, the editor's discussed this and we think that it's a valid concern, but we want to make sure that your concerns are addressed properly. Do you think that you could propose text for this?

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@janaiyengar's proposal here:

  1. mark these packets as lost (this will cause the data to be sent again)
  2. reset the congestion controller, but keep sRTT and similar

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----==_mimepart_5aa7f48621cfe_5f2c3fbb7cb1ef28866c-- From nobody Tue Mar 13 08:56:03 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E832127241 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2018 08:55:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.391 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.391 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nwVl4Xua1Vre for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2018 08:55:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o11.sgmail.github.com (o11.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9BD80126C22 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2018 08:55:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=/2EmFvdrHyxJTmoiPGRn1QmF//0=; b=hKT9rCSx1Mp4EWun 8urUjbGvojvvN25zNrV9xfp4cNkn3D7rtThQQSbg7qKtgJCVL6ITM4oIgLzO1qd7 bquG26wbr2uxTS6ZJXHXhfhJdOLwjNDTc406WU+qlC4QLaf1FKWAy4T6D975iztc nAiOf/uESdk1R9pqi5itZ3EU5OI= Received: by filter0203p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0203p1iad2-14314-5AA7F487-43 2018-03-13 15:55:51.888403971 +0000 UTC Received: from smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) by ismtpd0009p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id dYEnmBS8SIeSyZjyLIxcjA for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2018 15:55:51.535 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 15:55:52 +0000 (UTC) From: janaiyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Endpoint symmetry (#462) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aa7f48761f89_5d83ff530572f28909d7"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak1A8iwIsxsGXcxaFZoKzyjOJ1vQnUkQeaOU8P hOnOGt/Jt6GbbB8I+fp2hQV128R0VDWwcqxuyh1k+e8UomHiI6Xk8ESRsWpTaUle0p2VQe4QiBHxvK +B4cRK8WPAvwjFHSFaKD//Wq2NdXIRuJvZLb4P0NqxNkvk2GHCKR194DUzUBa3QAVJf6CYUgs4p2gg A= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 15:55:55 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aa7f48761f89_5d83ff530572f28909d7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Closing this issue since we have issues tracking the various individual mechanisms listed, and symmetry is not driving design for QUICv1. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/462#issuecomment-372716365 ----==_mimepart_5aa7f48761f89_5d83ff530572f28909d7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Closing this issue since we have issues tracking the various individual mechanisms listed, and symmetry is not driving design for QUICv1.

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----==_mimepart_5aa7f48761f89_5d83ff530572f28909d7-- From nobody Tue Mar 13 09:06:08 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 283B612DA2C for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2018 09:06:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jLQqtUW9d_-s for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2018 09:05:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2-ext5.iad.github.net [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 137181201FA for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2018 09:05:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 09:05:56 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1520957156; bh=gpZ4tL+o+nzaM9JiUbNuEwpYKfkOqaAJSNy6sRDLVlQ=; h=From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ogtlx8FGZ8OPfHPxl9qsuxevjTEqyM7jD+Rae7Plel6SWmP7CSemLOwMf0KQ43zK+ lzrAE5CFr2YPRvJzlzc0B5mdxtQdu6WJ1OwPl0Zm2A24xi5czyAkLLOQUvfXzU8Xut 3rIrSHLaIDysdSzBlatjiRBivH9sYuP7RI5EBJpc= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Stateless Reset from clients (#466) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aa7f6e435392_140553fe669948f381165aa"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 16:06:05 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aa7f6e435392_140553fe669948f381165aa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Based on #1151 being merged, the idea here is to change the client/server text on stateless reset to be endpoint/peer and allow clients to send one. Then add a small paragraph noting that the client cannot send the token in its transport parameters because they aren't encrypted, therefore only the second client connection ID, as provided with NEW_CONNECTION_ID, is the first that can be used with stateless reset. That's not a perfect solution. Client's can't guarantee that servers will move to a new connection ID, for instance. But it's a step in that direction that we can iterate on. We aren't sure that we'll get around to a more complete fix before quicv2 though. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/466#issuecomment-372720237 ----==_mimepart_5aa7f6e435392_140553fe669948f381165aa Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Based on #1151= being merged, the idea here is to change the client/server text on s= tateless reset to be endpoint/peer and allow clients to send one. Then a= dd a small paragraph noting that the client cannot send the token in its = transport parameters because they aren't encrypted, therefore only the se= cond client connection ID, as provided with NEW_CONNECTION_ID, is the fir= st that can be used with stateless reset.

That's not a perfect solution. Client's can't guarantee that servers = will move to a new connection ID, for instance. But it's a step in that = direction that we can iterate on. We aren't sure that we'll get around t= o a more complete fix before quicv2 though.

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----==_mimepart_5aa7f80b324a4_2e293fbbaac50f30117677-- From nobody Tue Mar 13 09:11:21 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE79412DA45 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2018 09:11:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.391 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.391 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id h0x45T9hIPwM for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2018 09:11:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o8.sgmail.github.com (o8.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.199]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B0AE12D882 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2018 09:10:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=9KTj0zRG0PNAQckmG21IrCv0Qfo=; b=P7AUUwqzOoyzsvb9 WFNX8Ufk8Gh0gHnGQR0g9ZTyQorg/U1/1BdhUlttXqi74LCXYyNvsnYsv3WL6jro jIAYe9ozQty4rW9gPr7v8cpviAa+ziCyMd3ojhQg+s4Z8dDvcA3VAi/SNQ93fNV/ pTwZRDGsUEOZdr4qSyQuEBqKfaA= Received: by filter0587p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0587p1iad2-14070-5AA7F80A-25 2018-03-13 16:10:50.508606559 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0039p1mdw1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id 74A2SKJvQFKMZXflq-1Bgw for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2018 16:10:50.461 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 16:10:50 +0000 (UTC) From: janaiyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Document how a server cluster might be upgraded (#504) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aa7f80a256b2_bb53fed61f20f381619c2"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak0cJ0vwpRNveWnGdzIgy1slxrturDwidYdjJd rJcwNUyQ0UZymkVgQRKe4hE7Uy3llION2wglA7nSWlnsMypJB4x7HWeiBUjaXJ0u/aFjRO3ga03toi TXpdkIgXvTGHMFT30ly2A+UnINUocCv0DrvBcabbNE+J4UAP62mEC3TUZlPtEfiR6FE5yu9dBIKlTZ A= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 16:11:10 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aa7f80a256b2_bb53fed61f20f381619c2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Moving this to https://github.com/quicwg/ops-drafts/issues/28. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/504#issuecomment-372722173 ----==_mimepart_5aa7f80a256b2_bb53fed61f20f381619c2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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It's section 8.4 not 9.4 - it says some implementations may choose a m= ore conserative size due to possible tunneling overhead. But that isn't p= ossible when the handshake is forced to the maximum - should there be an = issue to limit handshake size to, say, 1000 bytes?

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It's believed #560 and Connection Migration(#1012) should be sufficient for the HTTP over QUIC goals of v1, tagging this as v2.

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Proposal to be written up:

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  • Need to talk about what happens if the client migrates before the probe= completes (client SHOULD probe the preferred IP only; MAY probe the old IP= if they fail)

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We can imagine this being useful to limit the scope of resumption for the purpose of preventing replay. After discussing the mechanisms, bundling the ID in the transport params is one approach, since implementations are expected to be able to store transport params for future 0RTTs. The supplied connection ID(s) in the transport params could be used with any session ticket. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/584#issuecomment-372755763 ----==_mimepart_5aa80e0b159e0_704e2b18e357ced024065 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The editors discussed this and especially with the new varlen connection= IDs, we don't believe a new packet type is necessary.

We can imagine this being useful to limit the scope of resumption for th= e purpose of preventing replay.

After discussing the mechanisms, bundling the ID in the transport params= is one approach, since implementations are expected to be able to store tr= ansport params for future 0RTTs.

The supplied connection ID(s) in the transport params could be used with= any session ticket.

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Let's defer this until #1012 is landed. Then we can add text about that to the connection migration section.

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@ekr: would you be able to produce some text? I'm happy to take this in since it seems helpful.

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> Proposal to be written up:
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> - New transport param with server's "preferred IP"
> - Client MUST probe the server's preferred address following th= e
> Handshake
>
> When writing the proposal, can I ask that we be really clear about whe= ther
we expect this to be used across address families? If someone reaches
server X on an anycast IPv4 address, for example, will this transport param=
be allowed to redirect them to an IPv6 address? Or vice versa?

While I can see very valid reasons for doing so, that would be a change to<= br> how happy eyeballs work, and I'd like to get review if it will be permi= tted.

thanks,

Ted


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If integrity protection is performed by QUIC, QUIC MUST abort the connection if the integrity check fails with a PROTOCOL_VIOLATION error code. -## Connection Migration {#migration} +## Client Connection Migration {#migration} + +QUIC allows connections to survive changes to endpoint addresses (that is, IP +address and/or port), such as those caused by a client migrating to a new +network. This section describes the protocol for migrating a connection to a +new client address. + +Migrating a connection to a new server address is left for future work. If a +client receives packets from a new server address, the client MAY discard these +packets. + + +### Path Validation {#migrate-validate} done. I've redone the front matter in this section to flow better as a standalone. > +QUIC allows connections to survive changes to endpoint addresses (that is, IP +address and/or port), such as those caused by a client migrating to a new +network. This section describes the protocol for migrating a connection to a +new client address. + +Migrating a connection to a new server address is left for future work. If a +client receives packets from a new server address, the client MAY discard these +packets. + + +### Path Validation {#migrate-validate} + +Path validation is used by the migrating endpoint to verify reachability of +a peer from a new local address. Path validation is also used by the peer to +verify that the migrating endpoint is able to receive packets sent to that +address. That is, that the packets received from the migrating endpoint do replaced with "sent to its new address". I'm not sure if "its" is confusing; let me know if it is. > + +Path validation is used by the migrating endpoint to verify reachability of +a peer from a new local address. Path validation is also used by the peer to +verify that the migrating endpoint is able to receive packets sent to that +address. That is, that the packets received from the migrating endpoint do +not carry a spoofed source address. + +Path validation MAY be used at any time by either endpoint. For instance, an +endpoint might check that a peer is still in possession of its address after a +period of quiescence. + +An endpoint MAY bundle PATH_CHALLENGE and PATH_RESPONSE frames with other +frames, as appropriate. For instance, an endpoint may pad a packet carrying a +PATH_CHALLENGE for PMTU discovery, or an endpoint may bundle a PATH_RESPONSE +with its own PATH_CHALLENGE. + Added, PTAL. > +than establishing a new connection. + +The endpoint MUST use fresh random data in every PATH_CHALLENGE frame so that it +can associate the peer's response with the causative PATH_CHALLENGE. + + +#### Response + +On receiving a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, an endpoint MUST respond immediately by +echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame, +with the following stipulation. Since a PATH_CHALLENGE might be sent from a +spoofed address, an endpoint MAY limit the rate at which it sends PATH_RESPONSE +frames and MAY silently discard PATH_CHALLENGE frames that would cause it to +respond at a higher rate. + +Path validation tests both directions of a path. To ensure reachability in both done. > +PATH_CHALLENGE was sent, path validation is considered to have failed, even if +the data matches that sent in the PATH_CHALLENGE. Thus, the endpoint considers +the path to be valid when a PATH_RESPONSE frame is received on the same path +with the same payload as the PATH_CHALLENGE frame. + + +#### Abandonment + +An endpoint SHOULD abandon path validation after sending some number of +PATH_CHALLENGE frames or after some time has passed. When setting this timer, +implementations are cautioned that the new path could have a longer round-trip +time than the original. + +Note that the endpoint might receive packets containing other frames on the new +path, but a PATH_RESPONSE frame with appropriate data is required for path +validation to succeed. done. > + +The client may immediately migrate the connection by sending all packets from +the new local address. Receiving acknowledgments for this data serves as proof +of the server's reachability from the new address. + +Alternatively, the client may probe for server reachability from the new local +address first using path validation {{migrate-validate}} and migrate the +connection to the new address at a later time. Failure of path validation +simply means that the new local address is not usable for this connection and +should not be fatal to the connection when alternative local addresses are +available. + +A client migrating to a new local address SHOULD use a new connection ID for +packets sent from that address, see {{migration-linkability}} for further +discussion. + removed. > + +It is possible that the client is spoofing its source address to cause the +server to send excessive amounts of data to an unwilling host. If the server +sends significantly more data than the client, connection migration might be +used to amplify the volume of data that an attacker can generate toward a +victim. + +As described in {{migration-response}}, a server is required to validate the +client's new address to confirm the client's possession of the new address. +Until a client's address is deemed valid, the server MUST limit the rate at +which it sends data to this address. The server MUST NOT send more than a +minimum congestion window's worth of data per estimated RTO period (as defined +in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}). In the absence of this limit, the server risks being +used for a denial of service attack against an unsuspecting victim. Note that +since the server will not have any round-trip time estimates to the new address, +the RTO period is likely to be estimated based on the default initial RTT (see done. I've simply moved this and the section below into the section above (Responding to Connection Migration). > +time than the original. + +Note that the endpoint might receive packets containing other frames on the new +path, but a PATH_RESPONSE frame with appropriate data is required for path +validation to succeed. + + +### Initiating Connection Migration {#initiating-migration} + +A client can migrate a connection to a new local address by sending all packets +from the new local address. Since the server's address is validated during +connection establishment, receiving acknowledgments for this data serves as +proof of the server's reachability from the new address. Note that since +acknowledgments may be received on any path, return reachability on the new path +is not established. To establish return reachability on the new path, a client +MAY concurrently initiate path validation {{migrate-validate}} on the new path. Let's chat about this tomorrow. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1012#discussion_r174309998 ----==_mimepart_5aa8672539fdc_12ce3fabaa886f2c17097 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1475,37 +1479,269 @@ failure.  If integrity protection is performed by QUIC, QUIC MUST abort the
 connection if the integrity check fails with a PROTOCOL_VIOLATION error code.
 
 
-## Connection Migration {#migration}
+## Client Connection Migration {#migration}
+
+QUIC allows connections to survive changes to endpoint addresses (that is, IP
+address and/or port), such as those caused by a client migrating to a new
+network.  This section describes the protocol for migrating a connection to a
+new client address.
+
+Migrating a connection to a new server address is left for future work. If a
+client receives packets from a new server address, the client MAY discard these
+packets.
+
+
+### Path Validation {#migrate-validate}

done. I've redone the front matter in this section to flow better as a standalone.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +QUIC allows connections to survive changes to endpoint addresses (that is, IP
+address and/or port), such as those caused by a client migrating to a new
+network.  This section describes the protocol for migrating a connection to a
+new client address.
+
+Migrating a connection to a new server address is left for future work. If a
+client receives packets from a new server address, the client MAY discard these
+packets.
+
+
+### Path Validation {#migrate-validate}
+
+Path validation is used by the migrating endpoint to verify reachability of
+a peer from a new local address. Path validation is also used by the peer to
+verify that the migrating endpoint is able to receive packets sent to that
+address.  That is, that the packets received from the migrating endpoint do

replaced with "sent to its new address". I'm not sure if "its" is confusing; let me know if it is.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+Path validation is used by the migrating endpoint to verify reachability of
+a peer from a new local address. Path validation is also used by the peer to
+verify that the migrating endpoint is able to receive packets sent to that
+address.  That is, that the packets received from the migrating endpoint do
+not carry a spoofed source address.
+
+Path validation MAY be used at any time by either endpoint.  For instance, an
+endpoint might check that a peer is still in possession of its address after a
+period of quiescence.
+
+An endpoint MAY bundle PATH_CHALLENGE and PATH_RESPONSE frames with other
+frames, as appropriate.  For instance, an endpoint may pad a packet carrying a
+PATH_CHALLENGE for PMTU discovery, or an endpoint may bundle a PATH_RESPONSE
+with its own PATH_CHALLENGE.
+

Added, PTAL.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +than establishing a new connection.
+
+The endpoint MUST use fresh random data in every PATH_CHALLENGE frame so that it
+can associate the peer's response with the causative PATH_CHALLENGE.
+
+
+#### Response
+
+On receiving a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, an endpoint MUST respond immediately by
+echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame,
+with the following stipulation.  Since a PATH_CHALLENGE might be sent from a
+spoofed address, an endpoint MAY limit the rate at which it sends PATH_RESPONSE
+frames and MAY silently discard PATH_CHALLENGE frames that would cause it to
+respond at a higher rate.
+
+Path validation tests both directions of a path.  To ensure reachability in both

done.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +PATH_CHALLENGE was sent, path validation is considered to have failed, even if
+the data matches that sent in the PATH_CHALLENGE.  Thus, the endpoint considers
+the path to be valid when a PATH_RESPONSE frame is received on the same path
+with the same payload as the PATH_CHALLENGE frame.
+
+
+#### Abandonment
+
+An endpoint SHOULD abandon path validation after sending some number of
+PATH_CHALLENGE frames or after some time has passed.  When setting this timer,
+implementations are cautioned that the new path could have a longer round-trip
+time than the original.
+
+Note that the endpoint might receive packets containing other frames on the new
+path, but a PATH_RESPONSE frame with appropriate data is required for path
+validation to succeed.

done.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+The client may immediately migrate the connection by sending all packets from
+the new local address.  Receiving acknowledgments for this data serves as proof
+of the server's reachability from the new address.
+
+Alternatively, the client may probe for server reachability from the new local
+address first using path validation {{migrate-validate}} and migrate the
+connection to the new address at a later time.  Failure of path validation
+simply means that the new local address is not usable for this connection and
+should not be fatal to the connection when alternative local addresses are
+available.
+
+A client migrating to a new local address SHOULD use a new connection ID for
+packets sent from that address, see {{migration-linkability}} for further
+discussion.
+

removed.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+It is possible that the client is spoofing its source address to cause the
+server to send excessive amounts of data to an unwilling host.  If the server
+sends significantly more data than the client, connection migration might be
+used to amplify the volume of data that an attacker can generate toward a
+victim.
+
+As described in {{migration-response}}, a server is required to validate the
+client's new address to confirm the client's possession of the new address.
+Until a client's address is deemed valid, the server MUST limit the rate at
+which it sends data to this address.  The server MUST NOT send more than a
+minimum congestion window's worth of data per estimated RTO period (as defined
+in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}).  In the absence of this limit, the server risks being
+used for a denial of service attack against an unsuspecting victim.  Note that
+since the server will not have any round-trip time estimates to the new address,
+the RTO period is likely to be estimated based on the default initial RTT (see

done. I've simply moved this and the section below into the section above (Responding to Connection Migration).

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +time than the original.
+
+Note that the endpoint might receive packets containing other frames on the new
+path, but a PATH_RESPONSE frame with appropriate data is required for path
+validation to succeed.
+
+
+### Initiating Connection Migration {#initiating-migration}
+
+A client can migrate a connection to a new local address by sending all packets
+from the new local address.  Since the server's address is validated during
+connection establishment, receiving acknowledgments for this data serves as
+proof of the server's reachability from the new address.  Note that since
+acknowledgments may be received on any path, return reachability on the new path
+is not established. To establish return reachability on the new path, a client
+MAY concurrently initiate path validation {{migrate-validate}} on the new path.

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Editors discussed this, and for both Handshake and Retry from the server= , we will mandate the inclusion of ACK. This allows clients to drive loss = detection based purely on ACK logic. However, we will encourage clients no= t to send more Initial packets if they get packets from the server. This m= ight be happen if they receive packets out of order or the packet with ACK = is lost. The client can then ACK rather than retransmitting the Initial.

Note that this creates a situation that makes no sense. If the client r= eceives an out-of-order packet from the server, it will assume that the Ini= tial was lost and might reasonable send a Handshake containing an ACK and t= he ClientHello. We need to separately disable sending Initial if packets a= re received (and only re-enable it if the packet was VN/Retry - both of tho= se cause a new Initial packet to be created).

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The rules about sending acknowledgements have been commented as too complex. This issue is an effort to simplify them slightly.

A client may have 0RTT keys when sending ACK frames, but using them to send ACK frames may be ineffective and is unnecessary.

When 0RTT is successful, these ACK frames can be processed, but the only time 0RTT keys are available and 1RTT keys are not available is when HANDSHAKE packet types are being received, so there is no need to send these ACK frames with 0RTT protection, since HANDSHAKE packets are not encrypted.

When 0RTT is unsuccessful, these ACK frames cannot be processed and are a waste of bytes. Even worse, if the client mistakenly believes the ACK frames can be processed, the handshake ends up relying solely on timeouts to succeed, which can increase tail latency substantially.

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Note that the issue OP makes a proposal. I think that we're in the proc= ess of discussing that particular issue, but we need a little more clarity = on that problem. When that discussion matures some more, we can open an is= sue for stream 0 usage and offsets, etc...

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----==_mimepart_5aa90345d6821_f222af40ba24ed05734b-- From nobody Wed Mar 14 04:11:47 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBB46127867 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 04:11:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.109 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.109 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id V8WGRixn7wg2 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 04:11:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o8.sgmail.github.com (o8.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.199]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BC1BC1241F3 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 04:11:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=ZTW2EBAq7kc1jJ7X4MkVLzWcXAI=; b=JhH1D1t2KRVu80HS iHJ+afgUrE5vfY1ewGngRYWJu7g9iG9zEztUeZ6I5JfeeF2+Knlwmf/W9Lt7211C 5NV7IWiZf25Ukz1TWnUr6j12xU5z4+SnH116f8QbEStQ0uqYJ4vrdJRnWiXEsr98 fhOFVYxP8+9LJ4n+lO5OZRdACTE= Received: by filter0100p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0100p1las1-22323-5AA90370-6 2018-03-14 11:11:44.225532989 +0000 UTC Received: from smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) by ismtpd0047p1mdw1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id cqToUv_JS8SpKv7mS894Uw for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 11:11:43.989 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 11:11:44 +0000 (UTC) From: janaiyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] handshake and 0rtt data in a single packet (#630) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aa9036fbe069_43912aea908d8ed4471d0"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak1jKrEtBe3cQ5WVywy6TJ1Aa7ZuIVc5zaUlos V7l31mv0D/GYCgiwzkF2H3hjzytACUvUccM0ibcspqe3WUYtrAdFjapjPQTcixdItrmjzgg/LSjpxw fL+1j/Qeh0e7/44NiueZplzWdt4vkhaZuHP12kYpNJg/0MpoTEbtrcgrYp/Ig8Y9ikCgZrrM/ItZB9 8= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 11:11:46 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aa9036fbe069_43912aea908d8ed4471d0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Discussed at editors' meeting. We seemed to agree on something like option 4, with some specific rules: create "compound packet types" which have a length, and encode HS+0RTT and HS+1RTT long header packet types. To keep packet processing simple, the long header can be repeated so that a receiver can process parts of the packet under different keys in a straightforward manner. This doesn't have to be the final resolution, but we should drive this issue to an end. @kazuho : Would you be interested in driving this? Would you be able to write up a PR with a proposed design (use the one above if you like that design) and propose to the wg? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/630#issuecomment-372985171 ----==_mimepart_5aa9036fbe069_43912aea908d8ed4471d0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Discussed at editors' meeting. We seemed to agree on something like opti= on 4, with some specific rules: create "compound packet types" which have a= length, and encode HS+0RTT and HS+1RTT long header packet types. To keep p= acket processing simple, the long header can be repeated so that a receiver= can process parts of the packet under different keys in a straightforward = manner.

This doesn't have to be the final resolution, but we should drive this i= ssue to an end.

@kazuho= : Would you be interested in driving this? Would you be able to write up a= PR with a proposed design (use the one above if you like that design) and = propose to the wg?

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@vasilvv, we don't need any new mechanisms to support this hack. If you want to document how to do this (as well as the limitations), then we would be happy to consider a PR.

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Adding psuedocode and tweaking the existing text should clarify this.

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Fixed by #1151.

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Separated state machines in #894 covers this.

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There is a state, equivalent to the "size known" state on the recv side, where the application has requested a close, but that close has not yet hit the wire. Do we want to put that in the state machine?

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Duplicate of #390.

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----==_mimepart_5aa90ad8720d4_77a43fc7206fcf30142211-- From nobody Wed Mar 14 04:48:16 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1FBC1271DF for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 04:48:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.172 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.172 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.282, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QDl4eM2iM9h4 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 04:48:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o5.sgmail.github.com (o5.sgmail.github.com [192.254.113.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ED13B126B6E for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 04:48:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=eoD813NyGCLdMTIZMjnClWd4/DE=; b=NDY6jzEGiEll9gX/ v8hRz7IE9sMbvOCgdnDIHBVrZ6eW6s1yeh2amDz3ue6glx9qX6K9b430U9/UGE3i tFRcoTaC2TpaXqIfQKqCRYxYjOxA5Vm293dCJeJBsBkVXLspyEYfKkrUZY7g3gce YxthTO6wQ0JnuI9s7ZfXNdbc+IY= Received: by filter0493p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0493p1las1-17069-5AA90BFC-6 2018-03-14 11:48:12.323851304 +0000 UTC Received: from smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) by ismtpd0005p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id CIUlPNLiQUq5yVEk7VY6Lg for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 11:48:12.258 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 11:48:12 +0000 (UTC) From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Complicated Retransmission Corner Cases (#765) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aa90bfc3015d_20962ac21d150ec81645bd"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak3P2s09cDcr1bW/BEoeTgjB9+q4ZX/4MxYGzd hzELz44rk+PbwVnD/O7Egd28zkNVyLXeo1ThOwlbh9Y59/WEgTYIy0fSlPE838a7TCEMZQuGlZ73aJ TawLda19oNBIenIBjfZB0kbKTtjg5E244WvxqMz9yU2QXUTSkSAvu5JKjrw4XAsSfffycP4v46MsHy c= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 11:48:15 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aa90bfc3015d_20962ac21d150ec81645bd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My proposed text is to build off the new ack of acks ack block text and say that algorithm can also be used to decide when to stop tracking what was in older packets in order to detect/prevent spurious retransmissions. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/765#issuecomment-372993912 ----==_mimepart_5aa90bfc3015d_20962ac21d150ec81645bd Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

My proposed text is to build off the new ack of acks ack block text and = say that algorithm can also be used to decide when to stop tracking what wa= s in older packets in order to detect/prevent spurious retransmissions.

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Discussed with editors. This isn't phrased as a problem. If there is a problem to address, please write it that way.

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This relates to #1189. If we address that at the same time, I think we're good.

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Should've been closed with #781.

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The answer remains "no". But much of the reason for the question might go away with a fix to #630. See also #446.

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Reopened #785.

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Client and server perform the handshake, no packets are lost so far. Cli= ent and server both arrive at the CONNECTED state, and the server receives = all ACKs for handshake packets it sent. The client receives ACKs for all ha= ndshake packets except for the one containing the FINISHED message is lost = (the packet containing the ACK for the FINISHED is lost). 2. The client starts using 1-RTT keys, and it sends two packets: First, a p= acket only containing an ACK, and then a packet containing stream data (e.g= . a request). The request packet is then lost. 3. The server receives the ACK in the 1-RTT packet, and it stops accepting = unencrypted packets according to 6.1.2 of the TLS draft. It doesn=E2=80=99t= generate an ACK in response, since the packet only contained an ACK. 4. The client is now missing acknowledgements for two packets: the (unencry= pted) packet containing the FINISHED message, and the (1-RTT) packet contai= ning the request. It runs its loss recovery algorithm (OnLossDetectionAlarm= ), and since there is one outstanding handshake packet, it retransmit all o= utstanding handshake packets. Now we=E2=80=99ve run into a situation we can=E2=80=99t recover from: The s= erver won=E2=80=99t even open packet sent as a retransmission (since these = packets are unencrypted, and arrive after it already received a 1-RTT packe= t), and the client will never retransmit the request packet. Furthermore, t= he server won't send any other packets, since it's just waiting for a reque= st from the client. --=20 You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1190= ----==_mimepart_5aa911bd78a0a_79ff2ad7af632ed04635f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@ma= rten-seemann writes:

  1. Client and server perform the handshake, no packets are lost so far. Cl= ient and server both arrive at the CONNECTED state, and the server receives= all ACKs for handshake packets it sent. The client receives ACKs for all h= andshake packets except for the one containing the FINISHED message is lost= (the packet containing the ACK for the FINISHED is lost).
  2. The client starts using 1-RTT keys, and it sends two packets: First, a = packet only containing an ACK, and then a packet containing stream data (e.= g. a request). The request packet is then lost.
  3. The server receives the ACK in the 1-RTT packet, and it stops accepting= unencrypted packets according to 6.1.2 of the TLS draft. It doesn=E2=80=99= t generate an ACK in response, since the packet only contained an ACK.
  4. The client is now missing acknowledgements for two packets: the (unencr= ypted) packet containing the FINISHED message, and the (1-RTT) packet conta= ining the request. It runs its loss recovery algorithm (OnLossDetectionAlar= m), and since there is one outstanding handshake packet, it retransmit all = outstanding handshake packets.

Now we=E2=80=99ve run into a situation we can=E2=80=99t recover from: Th= e server won=E2=80=99t even open packet sent as a retransmission (since the= se packets are unencrypted, and arrive after it already received a 1-RTT pa= cket), and the client will never retransmit the request packet. Furthermore= , the server won't send any other packets, since it's just waiting for a re= quest from the client.

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Discussed at editors meeting. We believe the following resolution might = work. An endpoint acknowledges everything until (i) the handshake is comple= te, and (ii) it is certain that the peer has seen an acknowledgement sent a= fter this point. Supporting this, an acknowledgement of an ACK that was sen= t prior to handshake completion cannot be used to remove ACK ranges from fu= ture acknowledgments.

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After the server believes that the handshake is complete (Finished messa= ge from the client included), it sends a HS_COMPLETE frame, which is reliab= le. When this frame is received at an endpoint, it ceases all retransmissi= ons of any handshake frames.

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= ----==_mimepart_5aa91925e64a1_6c013f91882caf344839b-- From nobody Wed Mar 14 06:23:06 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7715712AF83 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 06:23:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.59 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.59 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=0.7, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id d3RnabXwz2sT for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 06:23:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o7.sgmail.github.com (o7.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 56714127286 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 06:23:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=wwSLnugfcI7LN2JwG4yS2gwxH9A=; b=SvJsw2Y3SSf5nNE/ f6RyNdLbpwiHN/1MVVSoSeKsNzeW591dOfjzZuHHuj4qVoVdOzFICfISTFWhjCKQ E1cNhwRP97OKnFuinPvSIc6t0SeLlniYN2SzCEVS1uBQxtdw+U0cui3RmXiLQFM7 lZHUqVShRq1Pe5AXJo8FG/JeoWA= Received: by filter0603p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0603p1las1-26934-5AA92235-18 2018-03-14 13:23:01.332633234 +0000 UTC Received: from smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) by ismtpd0049p1mdw1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id Bo0egegdTI6OBmXjxBSZDQ for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 13:23:01.149 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 13:23:01 +0000 (UTC) From: Christian Huitema Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Border cases in packet number decoding (#674) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aa92234e7fe5_b312b0cfc538ed02278d5"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: huitema X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak1k9aI8E2hDOsejZQTvPs+aKSiIpxyaIxhy7b 8tdmNwkzbTKEvpkdPDG4bB+McAbFPBDG/TnQ8tSlauz9eDlexeVPpn/x0GMcT/oYG3dwN3Y5OjO/xU FAzVg9iUHNeA6I7L+8towQgLIMx4LzQ3bllNF60Au4iS0hiZ3gVGT2sfYqLCpo6F6Td5bdKTftBF0h A= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 13:23:05 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aa92234e7fe5_b312b0cfc538ed02278d5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree that adding pseudo code will solve the issue. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/674#issuecomment-373018823 ----==_mimepart_5aa92234e7fe5_b312b0cfc538ed02278d5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I agree that adding pseudo code will solve the issue.

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Note: Removing client Finished (as some have suggested) is not sufficient because we need to address this problem for handshakes with client authentication.

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I know that we discussed removing short packet types in favor of putting the lengths under encryption. I will do that separately, just to keep the size of this changeset to something more manageable. Commit: 79c958e49dd02e28d11e7147e5158d83a92e06d9 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/79c958e49dd02e28d11e7147e5158d83a92e06d9 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-14 (Wed, 14 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Constant time This is pretty onerous, so I'd like to see if people think that this is acceptable. The cost is that all packets need to have their AEAD run the whole way through. The gain is that there will be no side-channels for attackers to exploit. Commit: d6e65f93276b1aaa9bb79cae87fdc228b319900a https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d6e65f93276b1aaa9bb79cae87fdc228b319900a Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-14 (Wed, 14 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- That was a little unclear on a re-read Commit: b1b1276e9eab2c4f772fbe27f6d0317a18d2f9d0 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b1b1276e9eab2c4f772fbe27f6d0317a18d2f9d0 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-14 (Wed, 14 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- That was a little unclear on a re-read, again Commit: 76f0a9cfc9d7e0623c9bfa9def14d657564e32d2 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/76f0a9cfc9d7e0623c9bfa9def14d657564e32d2 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-14 (Wed, 14 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- More tweaking (I have to stop this) Commit: 0432a6153ff3f57079bf28fe0bcd35e1ea8177e2 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0432a6153ff3f57079bf28fe0bcd35e1ea8177e2 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-14 (Wed, 14 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Some fairly obvious errors Commit: ac42d070ecbc020414c4e6661a2e45a1f14aedd9 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ac42d070ecbc020414c4e6661a2e45a1f14aedd9 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-14 (Wed, 14 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Don't mess with ChaCha20, use it directly Commit: 52bb64d0675b423c6acc5d69fee3435b8f9a1e0e https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/52bb64d0675b423c6acc5d69fee3435b8f9a1e0e Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-14 (Wed, 14 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Fix off-by-one error Commit: 56135054e0150581ba1aefc7b98910f4da1dc373 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/56135054e0150581ba1aefc7b98910f4da1dc373 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-14 (Wed, 14 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Two *different* packet numbers Commit: b306aa9c9eb2b256e5ef2046399544556cbaac4d https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b306aa9c9eb2b256e5ef2046399544556cbaac4d Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-14 (Wed, 14 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Remove repetition Commit: 4f57341cb6264d987ccec7969d4f0dff5c859d33 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4f57341cb6264d987ccec7969d4f0dff5c859d33 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-14 (Wed, 14 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Take and rework suggestions by @cwood Commit: 4072ec35012058562cbf1e6df2fae496e01a6b26 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4072ec35012058562cbf1e6df2fae496e01a6b26 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-14 (Wed, 14 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Just use AES-CTR Commit: 3386bf7cf304ec5e5e447c71a8ace929091016e2 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3386bf7cf304ec5e5e447c71a8ace929091016e2 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-14 (Wed, 14 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Make the order of operations clearer. 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OBE. Stream 0 is not flow controlled during the handshake. See #1082.

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Closes #818.

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Commit Summary

  • Stateless reset tokens aren't mandatory

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----==_mimepart_5aa92676a710_296673fd71f1d0f342344e2-- From nobody Wed Mar 14 06:41:22 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 520061273E2 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 06:41:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.828 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.828 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.282, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qPVDkZFdHMv0 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 06:41:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 77AFA12D775 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 06:41:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 06:41:10 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1521034870; bh=3xhg3ZbuQZcZnQr0ex+xrNAdHDpbnKPpzqYFZpuCaUg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=dHEXjhlL3HxyfjknzuvjU0toxqeMLHYZJG3fJb9JY+K5fY5tMoXy32Ritfd1/CeVF 13FH5JjHXGiuo/97SyPIGb+sH77YGGHIPCauj2Ub8mplVRzJTUS73athvIGvzEl7Ba n4XAgjqDlhtWbkv6PGZhFp8VDOUN5re3/LwCuYDA= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Connection ID is not a number (#834) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aa926768e156_73e3fc8d582cf3429902"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 13:41:14 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aa926768e156_73e3fc8d582cf3429902 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OBE. #1089 makes this clearly an octet sequence. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/834#issuecomment-373024188 ----==_mimepart_5aa926768e156_73e3fc8d582cf3429902 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

OBE. #1089 makes this clearly an octet sequence.

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Per editors' meeting: Not only can a server do this, it MUST. Packets = encrypted with the handshake key MUST be acknowledged only in packets encry= pted with the handshake key. Packets encrypted with 0-RTT or 1-RTT keys MU= ST be acknowledged only in a packet encrypted with the 1-RTT key. (There m= ight be alternative solutions, and those would be welcome.)

The reason for this is a man-on-the-side attack in which an attacker inj= ects a cleartext packet with the same packet number as a forthcoming 1-RTT = packet, causing disagreement between the peers about whether subsequent pac= kets were actually received. This causes data loss after the handshake is = complete by leaving a hole in the received data stream.

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Discussed at the editors meeting. If someone really wants this, please reopen, but we believe this is resolved with existing mechanisms (PING).

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Closes #827.

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----==_mimepart_5aa92f5f8ab53_6ead2b0e042c0ec418648b-- From nobody Wed Mar 14 07:28:42 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42F001273B1 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 07:28:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.374 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.374 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=0.726, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jPkwOXl0zZWu for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 07:28:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2-ext1.iad.github.net [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C014D1270FC for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 07:28:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 07:28:38 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1521037718; bh=imBT0wSWyYjw0cCg3OkwaCELS6eVNL5sf+cEVP+aRAE=; h=From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=DFEFh/G2dQJL+keHgqanTymC73ZrakiLMzCiTpg/C9Ovp1NiT/cC78knX4dX/B2TI SBEIEC8WJawqLlgVacNqqeeNUFXYKZpi8Z0m1mzBBKbIVO40SgIJNlYAaM9yB5rLm4 dC+yCQQUrIWCPcod7Z9VyiCFscxbXTyBfmO5fUMQ= From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Can a server use a Handshake packet for ACK of the last client Handshake packet (#829) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aa93196e17d2_48bb3fbbcd182f2c1274b2"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 14:28:41 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aa93196e17d2_48bb3fbbcd182f2c1274b2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That is not what the spec currently says: ``` 8.15.3. ACK Frames and Packet Protection ACK frames that acknowledge protected packets MUST be carried in a packet that has an equivalent or greater level of packet protection. ``` Personally, I believe ACK'ing the client finished in either handshake or 1-RTT encrypted packet should be allowed; though if I were to have to pick one, I'd prefer to go with the 1-RTT encrypted. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/829#issuecomment-373040717 ----==_mimepart_5aa93196e17d2_48bb3fbbcd182f2c1274b2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

That is not what the spec currently says:

8.15.3.  ACK Frames and Packet Protection

   ACK frames that acknowledge protected packets MUST be carried in a
   packet that has an equivalent or greater level of packet protection.

Personally, I believe ACK'ing the client finished in either handshake = or 1-RTT encrypted packet should be allowed; though if I were to have to = pick one, I'd prefer to go with the 1-RTT encrypted.

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I believe this should be resolved with the resolution of #837

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Closed #850.

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----==_mimepart_5aa932df9a411_48bb3fbbcd182f2c166386-- From nobody Wed Mar 14 07:36:10 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49D2F1273B1 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 07:36:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.57 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.57 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=0.7, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id y8gmFhFT3mTQ for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 07:36:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o1.sgmail.github.com (o1.sgmail.github.com [192.254.114.176]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3ADD9126C83 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 07:36:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=KyJ5NJeR567mKU4kPgyUI+LvR7o=; b=QHb/Qzzk11reD1oD maLK1We0Plf8qrBbM8GeZgvYDs2IVRtqJemjc4nZe+UZBlS1osv8tDsOz/rrRTes QBRNDIwaV75OLKmUGLdf2m4lGHAH1zuCOLv5tSW5aMlRCeYpsk8nfgXgswzIdLr9 NhbLOQguJ2h0Odi7RM+Qn3E/JpI= Received: by filter0095p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0095p1las1-24646-5AA93356-22 2018-03-14 14:36:06.626209701 +0000 UTC Received: from smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) by ismtpd0005p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id GIBXnNU8SYqy9fJqEloO6w for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 14:36:06.567 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 14:36:06 +0000 (UTC) From: janaiyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Normative downrefs in recovery (#858) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aa933567902b_2a262ab890332ed01036b6"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak1ddat41qpZyvVyO1bVZ0QnvOnqckpmNhWwuB UjPCY59FXkaP5VWRGXT/roYOYlYDTM2TI2T5z7VyZ9FOj0ZbNxdsKKefxe/CeqrQPi8YMTMIlAnz7e aRLN0sY5E9ReYdP37YH3OsSh3g++1zWEt8U/tK4g34VytkceIqU3cGOWMPVBa2Oi1Vt4oEBnjiLmnd Y= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 14:36:08 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aa933567902b_2a262ab890332ed01036b6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We will make the refs informative. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/858#issuecomment-373043350 ----==_mimepart_5aa933567902b_2a262ab890332ed01036b6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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We don't have varint in transport params, and this seems fine. The initial doesn't need to be as big as the max for the connection.

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Closes #896.

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Fixes #901

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  • Allow length 0 when offset is 0

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(#929) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aa93b8258cae_64882b176b43eed4198811"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 15:11:00 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aa93b8258cae_64882b176b43eed4198811 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Need text to clarify what I'm talking about, because it's obviously unclear. PR to come soon. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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It seems like @nibanks is on his own here, but rather than just close this, w= e will wait to get broader experience with implementation. Once more peo= ple have real code that does this, then we will have the information we n= eed to make this decision. Hopefully sunk costs don't drive the outcome = too much at that point.

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The references should have been informational because recovery is intended to entirely self-contained.

Closes #858.

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When #1079 lands, = assuming that it does, @britram we'd appreciate a PR.

Note that I really, really don't want an 8 octet encoding, so maybe some= thing bespoke is warranted. We might need some information on what number = of bits is most often needed so we can optimize for that case.

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We'll definitely do a sanity check before we're done. This is noted.

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ACK.

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This is something that has been bothering me a bit - I think it is imp= ortant to be able to trivially tell if a CID is initial random, server ch= osen, or client chosen. But I didn't get as far as to analyze all the pos= sible outcomes.

If the sitation is that a server receives a packet and needs to guess = the DCID is random or previously chosen then it is open to collision risk= and may be forced to create longer CID's than necessary. It may also wan= t to cryptographically verify the CID which also makes it longer.

The number of packet types is trivial to handle compared to ambiguity = in the CID. This also ties into assumption about unique tuples - which of= course - I'd very much like to avoid depending on. I can see the point o= f stable tuple during handshake - but it need not be unique (p2p servers = where both have a single port egress).

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I-D nits complained about dupe references to RFC 1191 and RFC 8201. I also just went with convention to use RFC#### as opposed to PLPMTUD. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1196 -- Commit Summary -- * removing some dupe references -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (4) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1196.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1196.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1196 ----==_mimepart_5aa947e84b551_6bce2b0429cbced0738d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I-D nits complained about dupe references to RFC 1191 and RFC 8201. I also just went with convention to use RFC#### as opposed to PLPMTUD.

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----==_mimepart_5aa94aecbd62_559a3fbdf8dbef3411645-- From nobody Wed Mar 14 09:18:00 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA008127342 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 09:17:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.59 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.59 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=0.7, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1LgXxICxEN4c for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 09:17:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o5.sgmail.github.com (o5.sgmail.github.com [192.254.113.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C5AD61252BA for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 09:17:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=Tzx3UgVSc2zQ3rrntSdyYtQmzZw=; b=S0UaMYZ59hD1bAaI 7W/GUz/gKtlfVCNn5sV6aoCcLKdb5Ie3IQZnwQ+W8xB6Np2MWa80s9/+79+NFPJ8 yX7OJmoV4eTOTulApYMmfJt2gRk45K4X2iHlypc7gKknyYJ/DGJd5Aguh24Z7DGQ ZqBJuRoJkIxoCVOhyJ1S4/vh81I= Received: by filter0342p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0342p1iad2-32143-5AA94B34-21 2018-03-14 16:17:56.689958186 +0000 UTC Received: from smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) by ismtpd0009p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id OPnYem1jTn657Wt5M4UD-A for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 16:17:56.656 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 16:17:56 +0000 (UTC) From: janaiyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Requirement of PMTU > 1280 (#1014) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aa94b348b3da_21d73fd348704f301011cf"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak0Xkv/mGXAziLHsLoBRVAV/49a7K2XG6f/QY9 9kHk8lBN7d7B00PYeK0Jbsev6508cqymn6rpeaBzmvv4J1JnBNtFXOMx2Y4DwsjK9nPPZ6BDW9AsSE MhrKT1v/ES3veO1+IRvC4MNmToz1pDFZaWkX87kKa43SBNlQ6EfYTqcE8Ix0WUczSICFLiIGD2G0+y 8= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 16:17:59 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aa94b348b3da_21d73fd348704f301011cf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is fixed. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1014#issuecomment-373082042 ----==_mimepart_5aa94b348b3da_21d73fd348704f301011cf Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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----==_mimepart_5aa94b371f4c3_490a3fb01437cf2c345ec-- From nobody Wed Mar 14 09:21:41 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DF24129C5D for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 09:21:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.616 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.616 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=0.726, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TAcsUuwozFaJ for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 09:21:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o5.sgmail.github.com (o5.sgmail.github.com [192.254.113.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1788C127337 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 09:21:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=3x5aX7DDeSmFPpjypH+3l5eYWCo=; b=SHeVU6yCTX08tCda 0TmaeYbILpeTxl/4Fv7jPX+04FKHwSfqsE2vG2dDCHCcrEGNQN14GCeMHidktVFJ WdE4WnlKJDB9/4pEGieDrM+qUvRux9MAh2627o3Jp4kNP/dFNSkkU6eY4K14aKL2 M4KzWxRSZjBcGBUtuiOQ5gGFBW8= Received: by filter0157p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0157p1las1-10978-5AA94C12-F 2018-03-14 16:21:38.309911723 +0000 UTC Received: from smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) by ismtpd0004p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id 8GvH83XCQrCvY0f_nrUPCg for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 16:21:38.167 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 16:21:38 +0000 (UTC) From: Sean Turner Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] removing some dupe references (#1196) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aa94c1214953_42d92acd7678cecc450d0"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: seanturner X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak0F25kLSpF1+xhvpw0Kcobc8K/TflnL+kveZ/ JDwv9OS3DnHAeZ2R8oSffzbu3Fo7W0AwX9WvEg5t0gVYOixGa/cJsbxmC/L1SlAkgcwYlSQZHyIB22 pnchLoyNd+yVSS2kyHrXkRcX3zPJR6Lw6HR2AWjvLkQ3qG2jVcXfex76wDAgrRtLCzcC4CzDDS3B+3 Q= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 16:21:40 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aa94c1214953_42d92acd7678cecc450d0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We can use the nice labels, but we can't mix. And, I went all matchy-matchy because we don't have cute names for all the others. Note that the I-D nit looked like this: ~~~~ -- Duplicate reference: RFC1191, mentioned in 'RFC1191', was also mentioned in 'PMTUDv4'. -- Duplicate reference: RFC4821, mentioned in 'RFC4821', was also mentioned in 'PLPMTUD'. ~~~~ -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1196#issuecomment-373083431 ----==_mimepart_5aa94c1214953_42d92acd7678cecc450d0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

We can use the nice labels, but we can't mix. And, I went all matchy-ma= tchy because we don't have cute names for all the others. Note that the I-= D nit looked like this:

-- Duplicate reference: RFC1191, mentioned in 'RFC1191', was als=
o mentioned in 'PMTUDv4'.

-- Duplicate reference: RFC4821, mentioned in 'RFC4821', was also mentioned=
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= ----==_mimepart_5aa94c1214953_42d92acd7678cecc450d0-- From nobody Wed Mar 14 09:24:28 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09BCB129C5D for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 09:24:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.4 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=0.7, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eQO2G5SrDAH5 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 09:24:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2-ext1.iad.github.net [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AF338127337 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 09:24:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 09:24:24 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1521044664; bh=tlPIyup1gJbUXvuulzaCyYqCXDIZcbaBJ+VeMDi48OQ=; h=From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=oDAMUE/0YC5ZI7VFjs+XuxUD14nG5aseAjhrCrb8CfX/upgVCb1V9bfWbsUpdDY7S oAFCA4Ly0fQelOFujRk7xTW71UU98XnfZyaN/pKPKobOA7f5vD9hGx/CEm4U5cPslL T8AWyPVDObyLJqiu5qjIxU0c7SflLbozz5QC5IQY= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Eliminating the fixed minimum RTO (#1017) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aa94cb8c540c_c462ab99171aec45642e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 16:24:27 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aa94cb8c540c_c462ab99171aec45642e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm parking this until I or another WG member can provide data on the value of this. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1017#issuecomment-373084487 ----==_mimepart_5aa94cb8c540c_c462ab99171aec45642e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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I think it would be useful with text stating that PING should be ack'ed ASAP.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -  ({{frame-max-stream-id}}) immediately after completing the handshake.  The
-  maximum bidirectional stream ID is set to 0 if this parameter is absent,
-  preventing the creation of new bidirectional streams until a MAX_STREAM_ID
-  frame is sent.  Note that a default value of 0 does not prevent the
-  cryptographic handshake stream (that is, stream 0) from being used.
+initial_max_streams_bidi (0x0002):
+
+: The initial maximum streams parameter contains the initial maximum number of
+  bidirectional streams the peer may initiate, encoded as an unsigned 32-bit
+  integer.  The maximum bidirectional stream ID is set to 0 if this parameter is
+  absent or zero, preventing the creation of new bidirectional streams until a
+  MAX_STREAM_ID frame is sent.  Note that a value of 0 does not prevent the
+  cryptographic handshake stream (that is, stream 0) from being used. Non-zero
+  values are converted to a valid bidirectional stream ID for a peer-initiated
+  stream (that is, after shifting two bits to the left, clients subtract 0 and
+  servers subtract 3).  Setting this parameter is equivalent to sending a

in addition to this algorithm, can you have an example? that ought to help.

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----==_mimepart_5aa9525ec5cac_315d3fa4ef0c8f2c111936-- From nobody Wed Mar 14 09:48:39 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F26E012D77A for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 09:48:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.129 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.129 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pRxT_DKpONGy for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 09:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o1.sgmail.github.com (o1.sgmail.github.com [192.254.114.176]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2AC51127337 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 09:48:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=uf8qSHNkzB7km9ezx1LQ88gds8U=; b=s+IpXyDOw4vEEZhL eZmeaxi2oIN6xlEP3jC3VBw5kC/N5StbTjHgaeYRrHmAisQc0eMb6Btw7gpdXbTR n9iEo1Y/E7mF11ngLIQ4opTsq216+W/T2Y0LIy1DXNGTtexdx70eWkx0YT4ZQZVx RIMiQjcKSh+ErkZZZbaaS+ozfS0= Received: by filter0402p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0402p1iad2-14557-5AA9525E-4B 2018-03-14 16:48:30.913320702 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0013p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id I76eV47JRF-mWTgrsVnE3w for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 16:48:30.844 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 16:48:31 +0000 (UTC) From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Connections SHOULD Respond to Connection Close Frames (#1029) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aa9525eaa0ea_19b3faec4a84f28102411"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak1s+Ae9phq7ff5ix6jexvGKrd14sPVkvSMTiR dvugauJWdQqVxlRqmYlGXkgumzp5Cldr30V7PgODAPmPRa7iqKuHch5yyNhW65NZpFu+/9N4gaJg7B K8fJ/6w080PdM6WEpZWR71KoB/XzSpp6aY3qiimB4sMK96VmxYgdG5L908RmgnDiri01DRYdMkPdo6 g= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 16:48:34 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aa9525eaa0ea_19b3faec4a84f28102411 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In practice, the closing side will be dropping packets. Having implemented this, it's quite hard to consume the closing frame. I don't think that we gain anything from encouraging this. You can do what you think you need to, but I'm not seeing anyone else pushing for this. The editors are agreed that MAY is entirely appropriate. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1029#issuecomment-373093253 ----==_mimepart_5aa9525eaa0ea_19b3faec4a84f28102411 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

In practice, the closing side will be dropping packets. Having implemen= ted this, it's quite hard to consume the closing frame. I don't think that= we gain anything from encouraging this. You can do what you think you nee= d to, but I'm not seeing anyone else pushing for this. The editors are agr= eed that MAY is entirely appropriate.

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----==_mimepart_5aa952e5577ca_4b263fc9358e4f34711b-- From nobody Wed Mar 14 09:51:04 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A81B12D77B for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 09:50:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AJwRnx19ltLk for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 09:50:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2-ext5.iad.github.net [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2CD92127869 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 09:50:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 09:50:55 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1521046255; bh=bWarsIKpJ5PvjkzWUrMcuFMhRCYUlvAt4Ykh5mNaCV4=; h=From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Nv5Jsy5FkBdJdYaSTBnGvlX4Xo7f+d2SJdSdE8xmKiMnz6zTUYdcY+fq4X2kkLIXC aK6fIUGP8U1I9l+KaSb6gzqauoYU08+b3JdaMxA5XtizZiklqNPddYnZnaWNpiasfu 4zHQVClLsCaAnmdpjpKB7hDOKFuF17g7dKKpDh9s= From: janaiyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Is zero a valid stream-ID in Transport Parameters? (#1023) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aa952ef748e5_4b033fc9358e4f341673e9"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 16:50:59 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aa952ef748e5_4b033fc9358e4f341673e9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm happy with #1065, modulo nits. We should close this. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1023#issuecomment-373094146 ----==_mimepart_5aa952ef748e5_4b033fc9358e4f341673e9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I'm happy with #1065, modulo nits. We should close this.

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This would be closed by Stream ID encryption #1079

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -888,6 +888,9 @@ that are encrypted with a key it has not yet computed. Clients MAY drop these
 packets, or MAY buffer them in anticipation of later packets that allow it to
 compute the key.
 
+If a client receives a packet that has an unsupported version, it MUST discard
+that packet.
+

Isn't that an invariant? Otherwise the next version could require the client to do a best effort on unknown versions, and a client would not know what guides the world.

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#827 mentions that packets of unknown versions must be dropped.
But it is hard to make a version related requirement for a specific QUIC version, when clients can implement multiple versions.

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----==_mimepart_5aa954da56c6f_16672b1ac6d48ecc9613f-- From nobody Wed Mar 14 09:59:34 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90B15126BF6 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 09:59:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.59 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.59 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=0.7, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8XUWF0ZySSa2 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 09:59:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o8.sgmail.github.com (o8.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.199]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C7857124217 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 09:59:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=komR9xhM8S4bsGpq8gp7nweByuQ=; b=CJ531giEYDJfz58H UuVnhTkGjLDio3rPBjxmijSf6TAEBsu0fzPIXpSQzOGLfwmenYfci4A2J62PHhL4 2Yj0SCBQUmA94G84Qyk5nqZSabeDdQ5ppS/kdOy/fdW2OVvTiume9OtloR4RkW6T PE6b30LDpHplB2WprdhkGXGT3WI= Received: by filter0495p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0495p1las1-19199-5AA954F2-8 2018-03-14 16:59:30.291487289 +0000 UTC Received: from smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) by ismtpd0004p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id 9i6AJkWQQoSCB3LhJXbWsw for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 16:59:30.187 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 16:59:30 +0000 (UTC) From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] STOP_SENDING before stream open (#1050) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aa954f219bb2_515a2b29daf54ec899650"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak3MgYhaERQ1oUrLI6ia2n9Jxb78IxtKPx+3lR e7OIN2751MIGhZ9mxP9RUpW7dh1zTNfSg6Og5J64d6qxGWOVBflgS8cvHFL5ekbnoi2Cr0kkM++hOi ZGhj4UHW1tUYklzvRNpd4ElSxaS4JZcYkdcK4mo/F5ivibLtHmRHN9G6SLwQEIGmO6D7t/HYNnnmez M= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 16:59:32 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aa954f219bb2_515a2b29daf54ec899650 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Taking this for myself. Add prohibition to the stream state machine section, as well as the frame description. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1050#issuecomment-373097312 ----==_mimepart_5aa954f219bb2_515a2b29daf54ec899650 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Taking this for myself. Add prohibition to the stream state machine section, as well as the frame description.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -  ({{frame-max-stream-id}}) immediately after completing the handshake.  The
-  maximum bidirectional stream ID is set to 0 if this parameter is absent,
-  preventing the creation of new bidirectional streams until a MAX_STREAM_ID
-  frame is sent.  Note that a default value of 0 does not prevent the
-  cryptographic handshake stream (that is, stream 0) from being used.
+initial_max_streams_bidi (0x0002):
+
+: The initial maximum streams parameter contains the initial maximum number of
+  bidirectional streams the peer may initiate, encoded as an unsigned 32-bit
+  integer.  The maximum bidirectional stream ID is set to 0 if this parameter is
+  absent or zero, preventing the creation of new bidirectional streams until a
+  MAX_STREAM_ID frame is sent.  Note that a value of 0 does not prevent the
+  cryptographic handshake stream (that is, stream 0) from being used. Non-zero
+  values are converted to a valid bidirectional stream ID for a peer-initiated
+  stream (that is, after shifting two bits to the left, clients subtract 0 and
+  servers subtract 3).  Setting this parameter is equivalent to sending a

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Closes #1062.

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Closes #1061.

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I have been told this can be subsumed as part of tlswg/tls13-spec#1080.

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What is the reason for this change? Rereading #896, I don't think there was a consensus for making this change, and good arguments for keeping implicit stream opening.

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak3HEQHYj/VWlOaNBK7OwHBi8NBKIrkbMgHv2y AB8AHPRWV9xqHff0JrOHw6BNmSM5sJ/zCi0yTHvZ5d+DoXctwXnJbIAvUfsxDGuNOuvwnyfMFmdIwc XTuMUSfZ8p0t7x/3vd+TKGR2dMYt8lS3BqINxFe0ViaDe6EAEZUQXdv8ZFuTQWV+QxkZFyganI4ZV+ 4= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 17:28:55 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aa95bd463943_74e53f927a440f3814349e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Given that we're no longer keeping per-entry accounting in the dynamic table, HPACK's existing 32 byte overhead amount per entry should be sufficient. 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Given that we're no longer keeping per-entry accounting in the dynamic table, HPACK's existing 32 byte overhead amount per entry should be sufficient. This PR removes the text which suggests it might not be.

Fixes #1127.

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Addresses #1147, but this might be wrapped up in #829.

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Closes 1056.

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Closes #1075

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----==_mimepart_5aa95ef63f176_6b132ae6b9a34ed4143138-- From nobody Wed Mar 14 10:42:25 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 061B4124217 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 10:42:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.828 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.828 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.282, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id elqpcIZx4WgU for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 10:42:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B65AE120227 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 10:42:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 10:42:15 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1521049335; bh=yuRJHGkqOI+QhRCKDwZNi2hNoaJuHabwkU2LXsbnP6k=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=eFy54cEamT9z8iUX+WbEVZPksiKQwwke4ZaXmHOoRl0kdaVBzekjh/5nnOTYp0AhV NAamxt32nh84OwuJhPv7tAGZYkqmanGhksuhjGo6pTF3tnoieWi7i9kI8FM/A0BTnT Wn3VALSh5cO8OTk3kpORtT2shxy7njnZ95GnpOIU= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Addressing issue#1147 (#1201) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aa95ef71e55c_146343fba94480f3812296d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 17:42:18 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aa95ef71e55c_146343fba94480f3812296d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Merged #1201. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1201#event-1521566609 ----==_mimepart_5aa95ef71e55c_146343fba94480f3812296d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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This document does not specify a pacer. As an -example pacer, implementers are referred to the Fair Queue packet scheduler (fq -qdisc) in Linux (3.11 onwards) as a well-known and publicly available -implementation of a flow pacer. +This document does not specify a pacer, but it is RECOMMENDED that a sender pace +sending of all data based on input from the congestion controller. For example, +a pacer might distribute the congestion window over the SRTT when used with a +window-based controller, and a pacer might simply use the rate estimate of a or a pacer might use the rate estimate... -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1202#pullrequestreview-103928440 ----==_mimepart_5aa95fd39601e_575c2ae4cdc1eecc1672e9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -951,11 +951,20 @@ slow start is re-entered.
 
 ## Pacing
 
-It is RECOMMENDED that a sender pace sending of all data, distributing the
-congestion window over the SRTT.  This document does not specify a pacer.  As an
-example pacer, implementers are referred to the Fair Queue packet scheduler (fq
-qdisc) in Linux (3.11 onwards) as a well-known and publicly available
-implementation of a flow pacer.
+This document does not specify a pacer, but it is RECOMMENDED that a sender pace
+sending of all data based on input from the congestion controller.  For example,
+a pacer might distribute the congestion window over the SRTT when used with a
+window-based controller, and a pacer might simply use the rate estimate of a

or a pacer might use the rate estimate...

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----==_mimepart_5aa960421d2e4_2d2e2ab2fd0faed0589a4-- From nobody Wed Mar 14 10:47:55 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88F77120047 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 10:47:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.172 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.172 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.282, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VVY1ZdXfcztl for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 10:47:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o3.sgmail.github.com (o3.sgmail.github.com [192.254.112.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5D8EF120227 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 10:47:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=rySequBhJt3zRZXVhoO6XijTsRY=; b=YHgasp4znHYDdw2w gJ3gHi+JiITRiuFC2TpfKlHH10Uw9LwKjX6KHWVxDma0CF6QCjcGDgfeyhfrHC1s fAKoNHCjG8xJ3HgddVMSO9Jp3Wr8UpoSUZX3NUdR0JncNxOsMgTDF6HKc/VPSgFM hwmdiA1YapzbpAEaV+JiafPW5jA= Received: by filter0195p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0195p1iad2-5609-5AA96043-11 2018-03-14 17:47:47.387523042 +0000 UTC Received: from smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) by ismtpd0033p1mdw1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id dBuDl3FSQm6K-4V4wdpfEA for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 17:47:47.396 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 17:47:47 +0000 (UTC) From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Move section on TLP to Congestion Control (#1203) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aa960431f980_39853fd5be896f3844054"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak07JM5m0RHQ1z9Ku4YVM9/yypmd+wMm7IwJu8 jpsu+NP/6cTuTDvWhZqYPLLwK8KtbiwyEbpsOR31EBCrZPyPh4yXj48QvDGgAeYy0iyNCaoJd4Zgz1 4X7pF0wcbZccdiKzYLLQ9FeTCF9+/e1rEP8SssKfTfSmYwAGqGaJ1pMCjygYyJTZWEpPLKCbMii/tQ I= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 17:47:49 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aa960431f980_39853fd5be896f3844054 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Merged #1203. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1203#event-1521579134 ----==_mimepart_5aa960431f980_39853fd5be896f3844054 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1204 -- Commit Summary -- * App and transport errors -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (20) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1204.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1204.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1204 ----==_mimepart_5aa96197d20d_39542ad7ac87eed01710d5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Fixes #1119.

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If we want a defense against the clear text injection attack, then we ne= ed a better behavior. Because if the source has sent an 1RTT packet, and re= ceives a clear text ACK of the same packet number, that's a protocol error = and the connection will be closed. So much for DOS resistance.

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As long as we agree that Pad does not require Ack, then I am good. I w= ant to be able to Pad an Ack and not trigger Ack of Ack.

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Do we need to add advice about use of STOP_SENDING, to remind application protocols not to send STOP_SENDING if the stream needs to be reliable?

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Merged #1200.

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That's a similar problem, but not exactly the same.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 initial_max_stream_id_uni (0x0008):
 
-: The initial maximum stream ID parameter contains the initial maximum stream
-  number the peer may initiate for unidirectional streams, encoded as an
-  unsigned 32-bit integer.  The value MUST be a valid unidirectional ID for the
-  recipient (that is, the two least significant bits are set to 2 by a server
-  and to 3 by a client).  If an invalid value is provided, the recipient MUST
-  generate a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR.  Setting this
-  parameter is equivalent to sending a MAX_STREAM_ID ({{frame-max-stream-id}})
-  immediately after completing the handshake.  The maximum unidirectional stream
-  ID is set to 0 if this parameter is absent, preventing the creation of new
-  unidirectional streams until a MAX_STREAM_ID frame is sent.
+: The initial maximum streams parameter contains the initial maximum number of
+  application-owned unidirectional streams the peer may initiate, encoded as an
+  unsigned 16-bit integer.  If this parameter is absent or zero, unidirectional
+  streams cannot be created until a MAX_STREAM_ID frame is sent.  For example, a
+  value of 0x05 would be translated to a value of 18 by a client or 19 by a

s/translated to a value/is equivalent to a MAX_STREAM_ID frame containing 18 when received by a client or 19.../

It's not clear what "value" is from context. The same applies above.

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Using the simulator, below is frequency data of HPACK indices for the = har I've been using.

i pdf cdf
2 7.9 7.9
3 0.4 8.3
6 8.3 16.6
32 1.2 17.8
62 1.6 19.4
63 0.9 20.3
64 0.4 20.7
65 0.7 21.3
66 0.6 21.9
67 0.3 22.2
68 0.4 22.6
69 1.3 23.9
70 2.2 26.1
71 1.3 27.5
72 2.3 29.8
73 2.1 31.9
74 1.4 33.2
75 2.3 35.5
76 1.9 37.4
77 1.9 39.4
78 2.3 41.7
79 2.7 44.3
80 3.7 48.0
81 2.1 50.1
82 2.8 52.8
83 3.8 56.6
84 2.6 59.2
85 2.8 62.1
86 2.8 64.8
87 3.0 67.8
88 3.4 71.2
89 4.1 75.3
90 4.2 79.5
91 1.6 81.1
92 4.1 85.2
93 0.5 85.7
94 3.8 89.5
95 1.6 91.2
96 3.7 94.9
97 2.6 97.5
98 2.3 99.7
99 0.3 100.0

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Just a nit.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>    MAX_STREAM_ID frame is sent.  Note that a value of 0 does not prevent the
-  cryptographic handshake stream (that is, stream 0) from being used. For
-  example, a value of 0x05 would be translated to a bidirectional stream ID of
-  20 by a client or 17 by a server.  Setting this parameter is equivalent to
-  sending a MAX_STREAM_ID ({{frame-max-stream-id}}) immediately after completing
-  the handshake containing the resulting Stream ID.
+  cryptographic handshake stream (that is, stream 0) from being used. Setting
+  this parameter is equivalent to sending a MAX_STREAM_ID
+  ({{frame-max-stream-id}}) immediately after completing the handshake
+  containing the resulting Stream ID. For example, a value of 0x05 would be

"resulting" doesn't make sense, because you don't describe a process that might produce a result. Try "corresponding".

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----==_mimepart_5aaa134d6a2e9_5f53f94be4b2f34478b4-- From nobody Thu Mar 15 01:54:24 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D10D912D893 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2018 01:54:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.008 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.008 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24asx2bmM-IF for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2018 01:54:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6FCAF12D96A for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2018 01:54:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 01:54:13 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1521104053; bh=xi8u2mWV+NR+74xFEpLY0xqToJQyJdK/aAlJmqPt6cc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Cd6FKR3U6x2nEmq1dfKOM58BgRa5Ip3mB8mpwxWoWvngFQVe0kLHqlmsvI46ZyCjM 95htKH928l1oR3JHf/iRoBuonMSfywNm/OQh9HlPe2F0zCDvFWtpiDf3fzOiANIm4K Nd326ZGQ/8O0MhyLRg182om15Mjmn17wC7TiZWF0= From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Transport parameters are stream counts, not IDs (#1065) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aaa34b5524b5_65cf2ab65fbe0ed47123a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 08:54:22 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aaa34b5524b5_65cf2ab65fbe0ed47123a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit marten-seemann commented on this pull request. > - number the peer may initiate for bidirectional streams, encoded as an unsigned - 32-bit integer. This value MUST be a valid bidirectional stream ID for a - peer-initiated stream (that is, the two least significant bits are set to 0 by - a server and to 1 by a client). If an invalid value is provided, the - recipient MUST generate a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR. - Setting this parameter is equivalent to sending a MAX_STREAM_ID - ({{frame-max-stream-id}}) immediately after completing the handshake. The - maximum bidirectional stream ID is set to 0 if this parameter is absent, - preventing the creation of new bidirectional streams until a MAX_STREAM_ID - frame is sent. Note that a default value of 0 does not prevent the - cryptographic handshake stream (that is, stream 0) from being used. +initial_max_streams_bidi (0x0002): + +: The initial maximum bidirectional streams parameter contains the initial + maximum number of application-owned bidirectional streams the peer may + initiate, encoded as an unsigned 16-bit integer. If this parameter is absent I'd prefer 32 bit here. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1065#pullrequestreview-104115407 ----==_mimepart_5aaa34b5524b5_65cf2ab65fbe0ed47123a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -  number the peer may initiate for bidirectional streams, encoded as an unsigned
-  32-bit integer.  This value MUST be a valid bidirectional stream ID for a
-  peer-initiated stream (that is, the two least significant bits are set to 0 by
-  a server and to 1 by a client).  If an invalid value is provided, the
-  recipient MUST generate a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR.
-  Setting this parameter is equivalent to sending a MAX_STREAM_ID
-  ({{frame-max-stream-id}}) immediately after completing the handshake.  The
-  maximum bidirectional stream ID is set to 0 if this parameter is absent,
-  preventing the creation of new bidirectional streams until a MAX_STREAM_ID
-  frame is sent.  Note that a default value of 0 does not prevent the
-  cryptographic handshake stream (that is, stream 0) from being used.
+initial_max_streams_bidi (0x0002):
+
+: The initial maximum bidirectional streams parameter contains the initial
+  maximum number of application-owned bidirectional streams the peer may
+  initiate, encoded as an unsigned 16-bit integer.  If this parameter is absent

I'd prefer 32 bit here.

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The type of a packet is not an invariant, so what do you imagine we might do to distinguish "unknown" here?

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@MikeBishop commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -  number the peer may initiate for bidirectional streams, encoded as an unsigned
-  32-bit integer.  This value MUST be a valid bidirectional stream ID for a
-  peer-initiated stream (that is, the two least significant bits are set to 0 by
-  a server and to 1 by a client).  If an invalid value is provided, the
-  recipient MUST generate a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR.
-  Setting this parameter is equivalent to sending a MAX_STREAM_ID
-  ({{frame-max-stream-id}}) immediately after completing the handshake.  The
-  maximum bidirectional stream ID is set to 0 if this parameter is absent,
-  preventing the creation of new bidirectional streams until a MAX_STREAM_ID
-  frame is sent.  Note that a default value of 0 does not prevent the
-  cryptographic handshake stream (that is, stream 0) from being used.
+initial_max_streams_bidi (0x0002):
+
+: The initial maximum bidirectional streams parameter contains the initial
+  maximum number of application-owned bidirectional streams the peer may
+  initiate, encoded as an unsigned 16-bit integer.  If this parameter is absent

Can you explain why? Is there a situation in which you'd like to allow that many streams without receiving a MAX_STREAM_ID frame? @martinthomson suggested reducing the size, and 16 bits still seems quite large for an initial value.

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This PR needs to be re-targeted to cover the new scope of #627, but it's otherwise good.

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Fixed by #1204.

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  • 2d0ba7d Mandate ACK and allow PADDING in Revert

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Ugh, sorry @marten-seemann -- I meant to send a patch to your commit, but ended up committing to your branch instead. Take a look, and respond if you think it's fine. I'm happy to merge if you agree.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -  number the peer may initiate for bidirectional streams, encoded as an unsigned
-  32-bit integer.  This value MUST be a valid bidirectional stream ID for a
-  peer-initiated stream (that is, the two least significant bits are set to 0 by
-  a server and to 1 by a client).  If an invalid value is provided, the
-  recipient MUST generate a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR.
-  Setting this parameter is equivalent to sending a MAX_STREAM_ID
-  ({{frame-max-stream-id}}) immediately after completing the handshake.  The
-  maximum bidirectional stream ID is set to 0 if this parameter is absent,
-  preventing the creation of new bidirectional streams until a MAX_STREAM_ID
-  frame is sent.  Note that a default value of 0 does not prevent the
-  cryptographic handshake stream (that is, stream 0) from being used.
+initial_max_streams_bidi (0x0002):
+
+: The initial maximum bidirectional streams parameter contains the initial
+  maximum number of application-owned bidirectional streams the peer may
+  initiate, encoded as an unsigned 16-bit integer.  If this parameter is absent

You're right. I thought that there's no point in saving bytes here, because I overlooked that the transport parameters are sent by the server as well. So it actually makes sense to shave of 4 bytes (in total) here.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -627,10 +627,11 @@ any version negotiation that occurred (see {{version-negotiation}}).  The client
 MAY also retain any observed RTT or congestion state that it has accumulated for
 the flow, but other transport state MUST be discarded.
 
-The payload of the Retry packet contains a single STREAM frame
-on stream 0 with offset 0 containing the server's cryptographic stateless retry
-material. It MUST NOT contain any other frames. The next STREAM frame sent by
-the server will also start at stream offset 0.
+The payload of the Retry packet contains at least two frames. It MUST include a
+STREAM frame on stream 0 with offset 0 containing the server's cryptographic
+stateless retry material. It MUST also include an ACK frame to acknowledge the
+client's Initial packet. It MAY additionally include one ore more PADDING

s/ore/or

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Closes #1067. Updates #627. Commit: d9096de3024c4fe53c909a32ade410e64afb8120 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d9096de3024c4fe53c909a32ade410e64afb8120 Author: janaiyengar Date: 2018-03-15 (Thu, 15 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- f*** whitespace Commit: 00e9298c293c0d252882a9c32b4d5a383deb9173 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/00e9298c293c0d252882a9c32b4d5a383deb9173 Author: janaiyengar Date: 2018-03-15 (Thu, 15 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- ACK for Initial packet ... RTT measurement is a bonus. 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@ianswett= : I don't think this is up to implementations now. If you implicitly op= en streams (and return them to the application via an AcceptStream()<= /code> API, which returns streams opened by the peer in ascending order), t= he application could decide to trigger sending of a STOP_SENDING frame, whi= ch according to 8d450db is now forbidden.

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Discussed at editors' meeting: Proposal is to assume this is broken ser= ver infrastructure. Different client source CIDs would fix this, but doesn= 't solve anything in the common zero-length case. In that case, we'll acce= pt the handshake failure here. If there's a good suggestion on how to clos= e these holes, we can reopen and consider.

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When 0-RTT is rejected, you can't just pretend that your 0-RTT packets were dropped, you have to start over completely.

For example, if the client thought it could send 10 concurrent streams, and do so in 0-RTT, then when 0-RTT is rejected, it might be because the server wants to limit this to 5 streams.

For example, if the client thought it could use hq-10, but the server rejects 0-RTT because it chose hq-14, then the things it put on streams might not be understood by the server.

We need to document this VERY clearly.

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fixes #1157. The current model doesn't really work, per implementation experience. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1207 -- Commit Summary -- * Initial SETTINGS values -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (27) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1207.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1207.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1207 ----==_mimepart_5aaa5addb7064_548e2b1eff532ed05589ac Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Fixes #1157. The current model doesn't really work, per implementation experience.

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----==_mimepart_5aaa5addb7064_548e2b1eff532ed05589ac-- From nobody Thu Mar 15 04:40:28 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 834FA12946D for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2018 04:40:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.625 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.625 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3wHWyZknFlwy for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2018 04:40:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o4.sgmail.github.com (o4.sgmail.github.com [192.254.112.99]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 38D7412895E for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2018 04:40:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=WlvEI7EClfkdAU9QL3o3G0ieid0=; b=tR9eclRhvRdPm7Gh SR/gDdE8ElhzAMTvUyOlBDSfBPChFJbrOR+HqfvqorTMNLog6ZAXePkTVtSrOaV3 0KwcbwqPOfR7iMkKs+dpjzVUYylIgWeFN7RsuUsjJcqetl5547+GKBuipZU8T1B5 KUkkJuUb4jpruK8OAiRdLU0K8cM= Received: by filter0420p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0420p1iad2-13502-5AAA5BA7-B 2018-03-15 11:40:23.467600595 +0000 UTC Received: from smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) by ismtpd0046p1mdw1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id 7qn7f1skQ12IX5RGjie1lQ for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2018 11:40:23.307 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 11:40:23 +0000 (UTC) From: janaiyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Running out of NEW_CONNECTION_ID (#1163) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aaa5ba71d06c_68663f83906aaf38710030"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak15b9TDpIEtntQWX3qLiTvdqYzBuld/dQ4z8r TIdNA/gkER5IM+HiS9taYNkka9A4VaFwDlJCmf+K33B3drCR/Ioo/DGjTOTWw6t5kSt5nEOTO+2o67 TAHEvDkuJZ8P2FCjL2yNrtcHCfGq9YTfsc0gON5t3jjtDoQrCnY0OEjZCLKW2jkmnDpmCAcjdm8YNs 0= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 11:40:25 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aaa5ba71d06c_68663f83906aaf38710030 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Discussed at editors' meeting. An endpoint can receive and process packets ok even if it doesn't have a new connection ID to use in response to a new one received. When it is about to send however, it needs to have a new connection ID (as per Section 6.7.1). If the endpoint doesn't have a new connection ID to use, we think the endpoint should immediately drop all connection state and respond to the packet with a stateless reset. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1163#issuecomment-373347872 ----==_mimepart_5aaa5ba71d06c_68663f83906aaf38710030 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Discussed at editors' meeting. An endpoint can receive and process packe= ts ok even if it doesn't have a new connection ID to use in response to a n= ew one received. When it is about to send however, it needs to have a new c= onnection ID (as per Section 6.7.1). If the endpoint doesn't have a new con= nection ID to use, we think the endpoint should immediately drop all connec= tion state and respond to the packet with a stateless reset.

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Discussed at editors' meeting: This is hairy and terrible, since using p= acket number gaps in order is not in line with the way probes will get sent= in #1012. Packet num= ber encryption seems to be the only good way to do this right.

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Commit: e0fcbe8ebb310305f2e73996d6fa67bd8c36a701 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e0fcbe8ebb310305f2e73996d6fa67bd8c36a701 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-15 (Thu, 15 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Reboot state Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/6ea7707fad35...e0fcbe8ebb31 ----==_mimepart_5aaa63eb7db05_4a372ae04a267c1c116453-- From nobody Thu Mar 15 05:21:25 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9358012946D for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2018 05:21:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.605 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.605 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id C-1x8TBlosmS for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2018 05:21:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0525F1241F3 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2018 05:21:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 05:21:21 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1521116482; bh=dmzWIGa2zV7+okOSU6yoIKdq7lZLpBR1+19UmFbbNiw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=vUyXjF2RURAXUvOXd6rMZdi+UVLl0FC6ESyAm4Gq04TBFzkMr4JQwBWAwdw0v9WH8 hLQh9p/u6HqwBVEN4mYuR5424OwIcjvT/S0KNBAo401EDTpedrCop1jejPPIVIi93H xyKhJN1MBWW4oOp2c2RQ8uy+n40/7UKVPbhkUMgs= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] 0rtt after retry (#1208) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aaa6541ef060_110ce3f93a8eeef288004c9"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 12:21:25 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aaa6541ef060_110ce3f93a8eeef288004c9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This closes a couple of things. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1208 -- Commit Summary -- * Trial decryption on TLS stream for 0-RTT rejection * 0-RTT is rejected with Retry and VN * Reboot state -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md (18) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1208.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1208.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1208 ----==_mimepart_5aaa6541ef060_110ce3f93a8eeef288004c9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

This closes a couple of things.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1208

Commit Summary

  • Trial decryption on TLS stream for 0-RTT rejection
  • 0-RTT is rejected with Retry and VN
  • Reboot state

File Changes

Patch Links:

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----==_mimepart_5aaa65a37c2a_144f93fc850c14f281098117-- From nobody Thu Mar 15 05:23:23 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DCD6128D2E for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2018 05:23:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.651 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.651 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HMq7-2Y18yVW for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2018 05:23:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from m69-169.mailgun.net (m69-169.mailgun.net [166.78.69.169]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D46D01241F3 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2018 05:23:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; v=1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; q=dns/txt; s=mailo; t=1521116595; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type: Mime-Version: Subject: Message-ID: To: Reply-To: From: Date: Sender; bh=wbWFtR0fW3/qaQ5N8bFEiCKjsT1lm5w4W147ceNOlCo=; b=o/bGRphv2lXAdu2f/XZ+bAWTKifSDXI6ldzEFbftGEnPSil57n39McRb8z3s6ZqHuL5DVL2F 8GyIUtk4dHFtblqCLVs8AZPY703XpP1YZE7JycuoytPnLuGSunExRjgYD+LnVuafvnxAusJ0 Ls4VRW+lEh4jE0TW2GYvIYWHvfI= X-Mailgun-Sid: WyJhNzYyYiIsICJxdWljLWlzc3Vlc0BpZXRmLm9yZyIsICI0MGYiXQ== X-Mailgun-Sending-Ip: 166.78.69.169 Sender: sean=sn3rd.com@github.com Received: from github.com (Unknown [192.30.252.39]) by mxa.mailgun.org with ESMTP id 5aaa65b2.7f2dc42f2a80-smtp-out-n01; Thu, 15 Mar 2018 12:23:14 -0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 05:23:13 -0700 From: Sean Turner Reply-To: Sean Turner To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: <5aaa65b1c8b0a_bc202b287f091c087158@hookshot-fe-dfcc362.cp1-iad.github.net.mail> Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] 6ea770: Trial decryption on TLS stream for 0-RTT rejection Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aaa65b1c869f_bc202b287f091c0871462"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 12:23:17 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aaa65b1c869f_bc202b287f091c0871462 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: 6ea7707fad350f00d0ed12aea8a3ff58d8b524f1 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6ea7707fad350f00d0ed12aea8a3ff58d8b524f1 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-15 (Thu, 15 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Trial decryption on TLS stream for 0-RTT rejection ...isn't necessary because there will be no records protected with 0-RTT keys. Closes #1172. Commit: 910a81f331ea7a9577c00325bf9c7d87c46ab705 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/910a81f331ea7a9577c00325bf9c7d87c46ab705 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-15 (Thu, 15 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- 0-RTT is rejected with Retry and VN Closes #1206. Commit: e0fcbe8ebb310305f2e73996d6fa67bd8c36a701 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e0fcbe8ebb310305f2e73996d6fa67bd8c36a701 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-15 (Thu, 15 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Reboot state Commit: efb1a1dfc849eb53b086f41c9d5bb8bca9065c50 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/efb1a1dfc849eb53b086f41c9d5bb8bca9065c50 Author: Sean Turner Date: 2018-03-15 (Thu, 15 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1208 from quicwg/0rtt-after-retry 0rtt after retry Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/5bd5e9c7d4b6...efb1a1dfc849 ----==_mimepart_5aaa65b1c869f_bc202b287f091c0871462-- From nobody Thu Mar 15 05:23:28 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0827E12D96B for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2018 05:23:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.391 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.391 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RGrsJetaXzso for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2018 05:23:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o9.sgmail.github.com (o9.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE69A129BBF for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2018 05:23:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=oOAEBGgfVOxjuO+BCE3G26UCMsQ=; b=R7H1wLqCfBVYb2gI GrObF7pj3ZQQ9/vvGVWHiQl2oWSz9OZcOJUkjvYu3OjzvUEUZ+Jmz2ufPoyVqkET QojgK6HK20yYWzIm6EL7Tj7ysR70orXsuOnRC6b4p013g3j3qoFvPQaqOo+n1dBT Nmj0OfFVFNZGG6PRaCJYH0GFXmc= Received: by filter0536p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0536p1iad2-32109-5AAA65B4-5 2018-03-15 12:23:16.076259736 +0000 UTC Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net [192.30.253.16]) by ismtpd0021p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id -PIWJsNNTqKxi4k_jyaL4Q for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2018 12:23:16.045 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 12:23:16 +0000 (UTC) From: Sean Turner Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] 0rtt after retry (#1208) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aaa65b3bbb52_4d163fca9732cf341301974"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: seanturner X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak0LeE6bR9NNkoWiPc115Y55ntJ9iR7IWyWokf pjPYcVSSBLO9lPlNFcKAg70942rKeOoa/iWVeyJsJG5VHuCkAF7bW4JfAq7stZfYSWj30cBrN8ZWOw u5CW0pJIl81bNTah9xU/9eJezGQWUc5DWDIDBYSAbPfy9XjLOU05bHllM0sLHkmMWww1OHuR/0FYmE s= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 12:23:22 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aaa65b3bbb52_4d163fca9732cf341301974 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Merged #1208. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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I made the following changes: 1) Explicitly state the conditions for each possible server action on rec= eipt of the first packet 2) Use IETF terms like "MUST" when missing. 3) Eliminate redundant text 4) Eliminate all explicit mentions of the 1200-byte limit, as this is def= ined later in the text, where it also explains exactly how to measure pac= ket size. I'm concerned that just saying "1200 bytes" here might cause pe= ople to count IP headers or something. Make them read the definition! I don't believe there's any substantive change to the spec. Commit: bae27776631f1254750fdcef16cf10acc935f024 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/bae27776631f1254750fdc= ef16cf10acc935f024 Author: martinduke Date: 2018-01-08 (Mon, 08 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Update to PR #1039 Addressed @martinthomson's issues. Made further edits to be concise and w= ell-organized. Commit: 61c10035ada05379a6d1b7efe54238f383882b2b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/61c10035ada05379a6d1b7= efe54238f383882b2b Author: martinduke Date: 2018-01-08 (Mon, 08 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Addressed @mikkelfj's issue. Commit: a847126f9351898ff5cfa2e4f92762d03169575b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a847126f9351898ff5cfa2= e4f92762d03169575b Author: martinduke Date: 2018-01-08 (Mon, 08 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Addressed Martin's issues and fixed one error (first packets might not be= "handshake" packets -- they might be 0RTT) Commit: f1fe44676ef81ee931ebeea871a849b05932bd16 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f1fe44676ef81ee931ebee= a871a849b05932bd16 Author: martinduke Date: 2018-01-08 (Mon, 08 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Whoops, forgot the last of Martin's comments. Commit: a15f67a0e8fff62a3f575e75b48bcd0905db2a2f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a15f67a0e8fff62a3f575e= 75b48bcd0905db2a2f Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-16 (Tue, 16 Jan 2018) Changed paths: A .lint.py M Makefile M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge branch 'master' into patch-8 Commit: 3736b081ffcb21a713137042aa74899451a16429 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3736b081ffcb21a7131370= 42aa74899451a16429 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-16 (Tue, 16 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Tweak send stream figure The use of "Application Open" was confusing. The text is clearer on this= point, so simplify the diagram. Closes #1008. Commit: 256ad6b7e6bcfbcd0092fc1633ccfd06f6cc0341 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/256ad6b7e6bcfbcd0092fc= 1633ccfd06f6cc0341 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-16 (Tue, 16 Jan 2018) Log Message: ----------- Merge branch 'master' into patch-8 Commit: 56c0ae9b1faf33e99e4cb196faf3717a13b1aa0c https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/56c0ae9b1faf33e99e4cb1= 96faf3717a13b1aa0c Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-16 (Tue, 16 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Remove transport parameters from NewSessionTicket Based on feedback from implementers, this is complex and ultimately not t= hat valuable. Closes #1015. Commit: 45e7350cb269eafaf1469f01a746ec8cded3dcef https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/45e7350cb269eafaf1469f= 01a746ec8cded3dcef Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-17 (Wed, 17 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- No more paired streams Commit: 7fa92184fcebcfbb489614efb92f6dc89b1bb1c6 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7fa92184fcebcfbb489614= efb92f6dc89b1bb1c6 Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2018-01-23 (Tue, 23 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Transport parameters are stream counts, not IDs Commit: 4dbd358b5f2d88da2a0b3e7013d2eb3cb7a73bc8 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4dbd358b5f2d88da2a0b3e= 7013d2eb3cb7a73bc8 Author: Patrick McManus Date: 2018-01-23 (Tue, 23 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- typo nit (#1064) Commit: b8c08326aa0d64778da1096f7468b94f6a41a307 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b8c08326aa0d64778da109= 6f7468b94f6a41a307 Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2018-01-24 (Wed, 24 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Make zero special Commit: 69abaf6cf8fb6881397aa12c1ad6d5b68e79f14b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/69abaf6cf8fb6881397aa1= 2c1ad6d5b68e79f14b Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-24 (Wed, 24 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Pick a new connection ID with Retry packets Part of why we were echoing the connection ID in Retry is now no longer relevant. We now have encryption providing the primary proof of receipt for the Initial packet. Allowing the server to pick a new connection ID and include that in the Retry packet header allows servers to steer clients. Closes #713, #1041. Commit: 74257a085c8fee5dc781934f2c73f4147567809e https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/74257a085c8fee5dc78193= 4f2c73f4147567809e Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-24 (Wed, 24 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Remove echo text snafu Commit: 830da7d7d807b902b94214fc92801ecac03ef5ca https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/830da7d7d807b902b94214= fc92801ecac03ef5ca Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-24 (Wed, 24 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Cleanup Commit: 9a4266ab0782d619923fb63bd5c42c3832cdcbbf https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9a4266ab0782d619923fb6= 3bd5c42c3832cdcbbf Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-24 (Wed, 24 Jan 2018) Changed paths: A .lint.py M Makefile M draft-ietf-quic-http.md M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge branch 'master' into simplify-stateless-retry Commit: ef2353d8fb18b1dc6ff24b72eb9add2345723b02 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ef2353d8fb18b1dc6ff24b= 72eb9add2345723b02 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-25 (Thu, 25 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1066 from quicwg/retry-cid Pick a new connection ID with Retry packets Commit: 0b3d32b9af070382585a9901df605e7e9d69f5bc https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0b3d32b9af070382585a99= 01df605e7e9d69f5bc Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-25 (Thu, 25 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Remove mandatory in-order delivery Pursuant to what seemed to be the agreement in Melbourne, this makes it possible for an endpoint to deliver bytes out of order. To @ianswett's request, it also makes it mandatory for endpoints to provide the ability to deliver in order. Closes #252, #257. Commit: 888e0be84f536ba4e5ce501bfa36d95704534333 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/888e0be84f536ba4e5ce50= 1bfa36d95704534333 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-25 (Thu, 25 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Revert "Remove mandatory in-order delivery" This reverts commit 0b3d32b9af070382585a9901df605e7e9d69f5bc. Commit: b52b40bb8ced2bbeda2e4f5d8ab00a2d21a3cc19 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b52b40bb8ced2bbeda2e4f= 5d8ab00a2d21a3cc19 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-25 (Thu, 25 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Remove mandatory in-order delivery Pursuant to what seemed to be the agreement in Melbourne, this makes it possible for an endpoint to deliver bytes out of order. To @ianswett's request, it also makes it mandatory for endpoints to provide the ability to deliver in order. Closes #252, #257. Commit: dc9774aeb1165b3a7ea0914e1ab54535bb26719c https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/dc9774aeb1165b3a7ea091= 4e1ab54535bb26719c Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-25 (Thu, 25 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Review tweaks Commit: 212a0da8555f1553721e5197c34200d98470c572 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/212a0da8555f1553721e51= 97c34200d98470c572 Author: Julian Reschke Date: 2018-01-25 (Thu, 25 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- consistent artwork typing Commit: 2e10caea87a57abdb73adaf081d2e031d14f35dd https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2e10caea87a57abdb73ada= f081d2e031d14f35dd Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-29 (Mon, 29 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1071 from reschke/patch-11 consistent artwork typing Commit: 92ab03bb2955e70b325d66b33355a97ec08ba873 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/92ab03bb2955e70b325d66= b33355a97ec08ba873 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-29 (Mon, 29 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1058 from quicwg/remove-nst-parameters Remove transport parameters from NewSessionTicket Commit: caf10fb52c873124419ed350136ec7437cab1008 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/caf10fb52c873124419ed3= 50136ec7437cab1008 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-29 (Mon, 29 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Update change logs for -09 Commit: 9c108f98520a5c5c32968e950e8a2c5fe06d6c38 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9c108f98520a5c5c32968e= 950e8a2c5fe06d6c38 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-29 (Mon, 29 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1076 from quicwg/cl-09 Update change logs for -09 Commit: 2ddb0a7bc45c8143659018b754ce7ae5a0eec432 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2ddb0a7bc45c8143659018= b754ce7ae5a0eec432 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-29 (Mon, 29 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Version Negotiation doesn't have a packet number And all that follows from that... Commit: 15db29eb2aceb42987e7fc12761a05507af87099 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/15db29eb2aceb42987e7fc= 12761a05507af87099 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-29 (Mon, 29 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Refactor key schedule This is an almost purely editorial change. It consolidates the descripti= on of QHKDF-Expand and corrects a bunch of minor things related to key derivati= on and expansion. This is the parts of #1043 that I wanted to keep. The only non-editorial change is a change to the handshake salt used to d= erive handshake keys. That should keep the fresh. Closes #1043. 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Commit: 5b50456159bd4c1bb129f26c5090ae7d01ec09ec https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5b50456159bd4c1bb129f2= 6c5090ae7d01ec09ec Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-31 (Wed, 31 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-thomson-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- Authentication of VN is part of the version-specific part Commit: aa6e9727de4904c9f10653e058ae856e48cb9804 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/aa6e9727de4904c9f10653= e058ae856e48cb9804 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-31 (Wed, 31 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-thomson-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- Remove extra text that might be too much Commit: 0f6e2555962bdf9216e9afcfc420cd016dcd7735 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0f6e2555962bdf9216e9af= cfc420cd016dcd7735 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-31 (Wed, 31 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-thomson-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- Add security consideration about integrity protection for version negot= iation Commit: c33d644a2ac97adf7a67cf4eff338dbfa19421a3 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c33d644a2ac97adf7a67cf= 4eff338dbfa19421a3 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-31 (Wed, 31 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-thomson-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- Not the editor this time Commit: 4f2dea4508aa7df86fb7f3e7b70ac368d2837e71 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4f2dea4508aa7df86fb7f3= e7b70ac368d2837e71 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-31 (Wed, 31 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-thomson-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- Fix draft name Commit: 98ab34b2bc9d75b4d5dd4925058bd4a4008518fe https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/98ab34b2bc9d75b4d5dd49= 25058bd4a4008518fe Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-31 (Wed, 31 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M Makefile Log Message: ----------- Use the full date, because ticket 2422 Commit: 674731b994f0c1d155020aa0a9d6ff9d8d78ddca https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/674731b994f0c1d155020a= a0a9d6ff9d8d78ddca Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-31 (Wed, 31 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-thomson-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- Close #1040 Commit: a5b1b98022f9ac638662bdb70ae8811f9e642057 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a5b1b98022f9ac638662bd= b70ae8811f9e642057 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-01-31 (Wed, 31 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-thomson-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- Tweak use of ellipsis Commit: eca60b8b3af57993ac4fee8a5a65a35a3ca13cfe https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/eca60b8b3af57993ac4fee= 8a5a65a35a3ca13cfe Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2018-01-31 (Wed, 31 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Extract amplification mitigation Commit: 26521a16e9a2ceb9cbdba6c359fbde582165e976 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/26521a16e9a2ceb9cbdba6= c359fbde582165e976 Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2018-01-31 (Wed, 31 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Clarify handshake exemption Commit: ee3909c42bfb174da183b7ccfba0a37c37040623 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ee3909c42bfb174da183b7= ccfba0a37c37040623 Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2018-01-31 (Wed, 31 Jan 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Just to be perfectly clear.... Commit: c35948b4e76989c450a36c441021144fefbc9d2a https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c35948b4e76989c450a36c= 441021144fefbc9d2a Author: janaiyengar Date: 2018-02-01 (Thu, 01 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Introduces PATH_CHALLENGE and PATH_RESPONSE frames (#1086) * Use PATH_CHALLENGE and PATH_RESPONSE frames. * responses to comments * not rtt, response time * hard to guess * fix broken refs * ian's comments * removed offending text about acks * f'ing whitespace Commit: e6914b05e2d292275ed5eeef94806418aa8b1493 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e6914b05e2d292275ed5ee= ef94806418aa8b1493 Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2018-02-01 (Thu, 01 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- fix changelog Commit: 423fa9c4f6e2ccf126c50307d8e008203483a14c https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/423fa9c4f6e2ccf126c503= 07d8e008203483a14c Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2018-02-01 (Thu, 01 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Mitigate amplification attacks during handshake Commit: 632097d983f831fbdba640ebed550c042d27636c https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/632097d983f831fbdba640= ebed550c042d27636c Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2018-02-01 (Thu, 01 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Martin's feedback Commit: acb375ad6aee6b58305fc4e0f7b5001b325a8314 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/acb375ad6aee6b58305fc4= e0f7b5001b325a8314 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-02-02 (Fri, 02 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1090 from quicwg/amplification Mitigate amplification attacks during handshake Commit: a7b6d1f3ca3db4edd2c9c591be891803584bab91 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a7b6d1f3ca3db4edd2c9c5= 91be891803584bab91 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-02-02 (Fri, 02 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1082 from quicwg/0_more_special Clarify flow control issues on stream 0 Commit: 3b0788601d2fae9b965eda7efa0ecc76062e8be8 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3b0788601d2fae9b965eda= 7efa0ecc76062e8be8 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-02-06 (Tue, 06 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-thomson-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- Packets aren't short or long, only the headers are Commit: a4c3c1c2f07f5ebbc15b6fea67721c586ea82f2c https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a4c3c1c2f07f5ebbc15b6f= ea67721c586ea82f2c Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2018-02-06 (Tue, 06 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- Alt-Svc quic=3D a list (#1097) * Alt-Svc quic=3D a list * Exercise (and mention) reserved version numbers * @LPardue's feedback * Better text about example reserved versions Commit: 7e4d4fd3bd6fd5e1cf2e5e576ddfab1557746d04 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7e4d4fd3bd6fd5e1cf2e5e= 576ddfab1557746d04 Author: martinduke Date: 2018-02-09 (Fri, 09 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Fix outdated function reference Commit: 567fdae2d37bca3236c09d6428d8dad51da469df https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/567fdae2d37bca3236c09d= 6428d8dad51da469df Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-02-10 (Sat, 10 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1103 from martinduke/patch-9 Fix outdated function reference Commit: 999a0ee31b590cb685e7c92418c956a3e56e8a03 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/999a0ee31b590cb685e7c9= 2418c956a3e56e8a03 Author: Nick Harper Date: 2018-02-09 (Fri, 09 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Fix the label length in the QHKDF-Expand example Commit: 4385ffaf129ca74d27a045b4fac49905a999bbcc https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4385ffaf129ca74d27a045= b4fac49905a999bbcc Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-02-10 (Sat, 10 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1104 from nharper/qhkdf-example-label-len Fix the label length in the QHKDF-Expand example Commit: 60faa9669e39c009fb9e8590b95078043ce51a7a https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/60faa9669e39c009fb9e85= 90b95078043ce51a7a Author: martinduke Date: 2018-02-12 (Mon, 12 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Frame types that are Protocol Violations Specify that certain frames on unidirectional streams tear down the conne= ction. STREAM, STREAM_BLOCKED, and RST_STREAM can't be on a send-only, an= d MAX_STREAM_DATA and STOP_SENDING can't be received on a receive-only. Commit: 2fbc433205ba977f902a186f13faa38077011a45 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2fbc433205ba977f902a18= 6f13faa38077011a45 Author: martinduke Date: 2018-02-12 (Mon, 12 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Fixed formatting error. Commit: 5bb5d4b1d4f166081e8f7bd0a5086d2dda1ff40b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5bb5d4b1d4f166081e8f7b= d0a5086d2dda1ff40b Author: martinduke Date: 2018-02-12 (Mon, 12 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Added handling for unopened streams @mikkelfj's issue. Commit: 4e8fe638c42bef826e3984e36b60e3dcb1e87a0f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4e8fe638c42bef826e3984= e36b60e3dcb1e87a0f Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-02-13 (Tue, 13 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1107 from martinduke/patch-10 Frame types that are Protocol Violations Commit: b33d04e972bb073baf434d1d531130ba3661bee5 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b33d04e972bb073baf434d= 1d531130ba3661bee5 Author: martinduke Date: 2018-02-12 (Mon, 12 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Rewrote completely based on Martin's feedback @martinthomson's suggestions make this much cleaner. Please read it over = for mistakes, but I think we're close. Commit: c2c42100d78ee882ec0c9d5100e3333f94ced5e2 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c2c42100d78ee882ec0c9d= 5100e3333f94ced5e2 Author: ianswett Date: 2018-02-12 (Mon, 12 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Define InRecovery() (#1106) * Define InRecovery() * Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Commit: 378f5438e8fffbaaf45c5707b9eb1442f8403603 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/378f5438e8fffbaaf45c57= 07b9eb1442f8403603 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-02-13 (Tue, 13 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Rework packetization section In line with our established principles for retransmission, I've reworked= the description of packetization. The description now concentrates on the information that is being repaired in response to perceived loss. This s= hould help avoid the confusion about retransmission. Two new subsections are added to the packetization section. One covers t= he processing of packets and includes the existing text on processing requir= ements before acknowledgment. The other includes the retransmission logic. The retransmission section still mentions frame types, but I've tried to = make that secondary to the description of the information that is being repair= ed. I also removed mention of "Regular QUIC packets", which only occurred in = 3 places. Closes #463, #765. Commit: 6ac00a475867bb5c2b906223879c4b2df2d3ccce https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6ac00a475867bb5c2b9062= 23879c4b2df2d3ccce Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-02-13 (Tue, 13 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Tighten language around MAX_XXX Commit: 5271b5952a5b68e9fcd5417d1c78cfe9812a4450 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5271b5952a5b68e9fcd541= 7d1c78cfe9812a4450 Author: martinduke Date: 2018-02-12 (Mon, 12 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Made Mike Bishop's changes Commit: e6beac4d18e2f896914d021040f9ccd17390b323 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e6beac4d18e2f896914d02= 1040f9ccd17390b323 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-02-14 (Wed, 14 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Make *BLOCKED retransmission rules clearer, add a little more general c= ontext Commit: da4436f6103d3708becc75dedff3f3ee415c82ca https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/da4436f6103d3708becc75= dedff3f3ee415c82ca Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-02-14 (Wed, 14 Feb 2018) Changed paths: A draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md R draft-thomson-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- Move invariants to an -ietf- name Commit: 48a3ea75063b2092d6172c08d552778a478f06b8 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/48a3ea75063b2092d6172c= 08d552778a478f06b8 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-02-14 (Wed, 14 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Integrate invariants into transport Commit: f229404621fb4e89c8834e45876658da85b398c7 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f229404621fb4e89c8834e= 45876658da85b398c7 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-02-14 (Wed, 14 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1053 from quicwg/packets-and-frames-v2 Rework packetization section Commit: e19ed60c91514e0a9334e54721d2f912e577e8e3 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e19ed60c91514e0a9334e5= 4721d2f912e577e8e3 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-02-14 (Wed, 14 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- This is hard Commit: 626f9190ac9677f7cc23e4a819cfa8c2e3c9b6b2 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/626f9190ac9677f7cc23e4= a819cfa8c2e3c9b6b2 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-02-15 (Thu, 15 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1054 from quicwg/fix-send-states Tweak send stream figure Commit: 5bb4a1ecd0158714abc1f18d68b8dd722f92f7ea https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5bb4a1ecd0158714abc1f1= 8d68b8dd722f92f7ea Author: afrind Date: 2018-02-14 (Wed, 14 Feb 2018) Changed paths: A draft-ietf-quic-qcram.md Log Message: ----------- Adopted QCRAM draft (#1108) Commit: 8b0afd057c41ed4fcd8cdc99eeb10dbe83954d6c https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8b0afd057c41ed4fcd8cdc= 99eeb10dbe83954d6c Author: Lucas Pardue Date: 2018-02-15 (Thu, 15 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M README.md Log Message: ----------- Add QCRAM Some links will be broken until adopted document is uploaded to datatrack= er. Commit: b3066dc80eb473ef30c91bb2bdd7c90f936ea56f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b3066dc80eb473ef30c91b= b2bdd7c90f936ea56f Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-02-16 (Fri, 16 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M README.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1113 from LPardue/patch-8 Add QCRAM links to README Commit: 00a80090ef056e340e0cb6813870e0f41edcd11b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/00a80090ef056e340e0cb6= 813870e0f41edcd11b Author: martinduke Date: 2018-02-15 (Thu, 15 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Addressed Martin's Comments I don't think we've converged on whether it is desirable to process an In= itial Packet before checking if the connection ID matches on open one; I = would like to submit these extensive changes (assuming no other issues) a= nd continue that specific debate in a new issue/PR. Commit: 80a47db5b7b6fb28e2cdbb1879c21b9bfc9f5e59 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/80a47db5b7b6fb28e2cdbb= 1879c21b9bfc9f5e59 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-02-16 (Fri, 16 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Couple of typos Commit: 40ee6a937194067501b2738eae1c87c01ee85289 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/40ee6a937194067501b273= 8eae1c87c01ee85289 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-02-16 (Fri, 16 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Remove trailing whitespace Commit: 6fd38851a3f893b606fbc2fa930edb57cc0dbeac https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6fd38851a3f893b606fbc2= fa930edb57cc0dbeac Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-02-16 (Fri, 16 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge branch 'pr1039' Commit: 7afacfa8b407a6c833fc7def32cfb1386104dff1 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7afacfa8b407a6c833fc7d= ef32cfb1386104dff1 Author: martinduke Date: 2018-02-16 (Fri, 16 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Added reference to stateless reset Somehow, in the endless discussion, we forgot to reference this outcome. 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Commit: 96b076bbedb1e1326ca64bbc1fb1732649a46b51 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/96b076bbedb1e1326ca64b= bc1fb1732649a46b51 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-02-20 (Tue, 20 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M Makefile A draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1109 from quicwg/invariants Invariants Commit: e086bc4cc79c213d2e50e8caba66227edb0edbe4 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e086bc4cc79c213d2e50e8= caba66227edb0edbe4 Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2018-02-20 (Tue, 20 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md M draft-ietf-quic-qcram.md Log Message: ----------- Integrate QCRAM (#1117) * Lift QCRAM frame changes into HTTP/QUIC * Remove HPACK0 * HoL =3D> head-of-line * encoder/decoder context * Figure formatting Commit: a9d3662927a90cae0e3651d81f5d67b62680aa61 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a9d3662927a90cae0e3651= d81f5d67b62680aa61 Author: Julian Reschke Date: 2018-02-20 (Tue, 20 Feb 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-qcram.md Log Message: ----------- qcram: make boilerplate consistent ..with sibling specs. 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2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Explain that decryption for unsupported versions is likely to fail This is apparently a common failing in server implementations. Closes #1069. 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I will note that based on the current set of open issues and PRs, QCRAM m= ay diverge from HPACK more over time. The core idea of a shared rotating= dynamic table doesn't seem to be going anywhere, however. Commit: 8ecd955816a10acbe8abd0cfc94c135ae8e7196b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8ecd955816a10acbe8abd0= cfc94c135ae8e7196b Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-06 (Tue, 06 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- wip Commit: d55ddf8f56d22e157ddc6b1ac3ab4ffd7f7c2022 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d55ddf8f56d22e157ddc6b= 1ac3ab4ffd7f7c2022 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-06 (Tue, 06 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Symmetric connection IDs Lots of changes here. Obviously people will feel inclined to nitpick at the length encoding. F= eel free, but I think that I have good reasons for my choices there. The NEW_CONNECTION_ID thing is tricky. As was the analysis around the handshake packet keys. Also, note the trick in Version Negotiation packe= ts about swapping the connection IDs. That makes client packet handling muc= h simpler. The big loss is in stateless reset, which I think that I've covered well enough. Closes #1101. 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It also includes a pointer t= o the place that defines exactly what bytes are covered. Commit: f7e9f8078503b8a3e381cd6a8cdc61fcd5616e06 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f7e9f8078503b8a3e381cd= 6a8cdc61fcd5616e06 Author: ianswett Date: 2018-03-06 (Tue, 06 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- ACK Optimization (#1159) * ACK Optimization * Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md * Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Commit: 3062883ea865b79df4aa2ad81655775189eabc60 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3062883ea865b79df4aa2a= d81655775189eabc60 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-07 (Wed, 07 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge branch 'symmetric-connection-id' into move-version Commit: 2764c5c388f858f1cb18c6297a66af043676b14b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2764c5c388f858f1cb18c6= 297a66af043676b14b Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-07 (Wed, 07 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Reducing minimum connection ID length to 4 octets Commit: 7bfa8ab3ae3db5a9ccacc51dc06f614bc3706374 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7bfa8ab3ae3db5a9ccacc5= 1dc06f614bc3706374 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-07 (Wed, 07 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Sums iz haard Commit: 7146f666cff33254b21a921e72f7804d70004473 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7146f666cff33254b21a92= 1e72f7804d70004473 Author: knekritz Date: 2018-03-06 (Tue, 06 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Forbid using TLS records for padding after the handshake. Commit: 486abed55eb4b036ccfcfb2e043a71ee37ad36f7 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/486abed55eb4b036ccfcfb= 2e043a71ee37ad36f7 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-07 (Wed, 07 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1173 from knekritz/master Forbid using TLS records for padding after the handshake. Commit: d7a18a031595190971e419dddefd4d8b15b41461 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d7a18a031595190971e419= dddefd4d8b15b41461 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-08 (Thu, 08 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Moar bad numerz Commit: dc887e85a50ece81bfbb87c44dfaf27d91c42f28 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/dc887e85a50ece81bfbb87= c44dfaf27d91c42f28 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-08 (Thu, 08 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- My sed-fu is lacking Commit: c6c06e50504ad98dcf4040296804ca7a48121134 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c6c06e50504ad98dcf4040= 296804ca7a48121134 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-09 (Fri, 09 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- For @siyengar/@ianswett regarding connection ID construction Commit: 3ea70b965749b0525468a09b33b55dcff9eb0347 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3ea70b965749b0525468a0= 9b33b55dcff9eb0347 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-09 (Fri, 09 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Some review-related changes and polish Commit: dca4b6f9f1ed1e47c2836cea447bf3064c159870 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/dca4b6f9f1ed1e47c2836c= ea447bf3064c159870 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-09 (Fri, 09 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Enter closing after the idle timeout The draft was a little unclear on this point and its important. The idle= timeout ends without sending CONNECTION_CLOSE, and it can end approximat= ely simultaneously. If both endpoints send CONNECTION_CLOSE and then go = to closing, then they might start a packet storm if neither actually look= s at packets they receive before retransmitting their close packet (which= is permitted). We want idle timeout to pass without packets, so this ne= eds to be closing. Closes #1178 Commit: d6d104bb2526c35724e80ba206d61646afb3516d https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d6d104bb2526c35724e80b= a206d61646afb3516d Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-10 (Sat, 10 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1179 from quicwg/idle-expiration Enter closing after the idle timeout Commit: 91caab82ea779af5532e567681751af0829f2166 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/91caab82ea779af5532e56= 7681751af0829f2166 Author: ianswett Date: 2018-03-12 (Mon, 12 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Define time_of_last_sent_handshake_packet (#1171) * Define time_of_last_sent_handshake_packet Fixes Issue #962 * Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md * Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md * Marten's comments Commit: 4e837b2dae103afa2fe9fb8a8e0db681a175db49 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4e837b2dae103afa2fe9fb= 8a8e0db681a175db49 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-12 (Mon, 12 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Fixups Commit: 31141215cfc0dd63ebbdfa7141e10b536b4b31bc https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/31141215cfc0dd63ebbdfa= 7141e10b536b4b31bc Author: Marten Seemann Date: 2018-03-12 (Mon, 12 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- allow sending of TLP and RTO probe packets when congestion limited (#11= 80) Commit: 4a5850f471232941fefea539002c240c6fc510f4 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4a5850f471232941fefea5= 39002c240c6fc510f4 Author: afrind Date: 2018-03-12 (Mon, 12 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md R draft-ietf-quic-qcram.md A draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1164 from quicwg/qcram_rename Rename QCRAM to QPACK Commit: 0d51024752d67da74c725ad8df4df12a990099b2 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0d51024752d67da74c725a= d8df4df12a990099b2 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-13 (Tue, 13 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Small tweaks regarding the change to dcid Commit: 3593b0e0fa2e682c7df93217e678835fe27ec8bc https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3593b0e0fa2e682c7df932= 17e678835fe27ec8bc Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2018-03-13 (Tue, 13 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M README.md Log Message: ----------- README for QPACK name change Commit: 9d1512f32b0c8a2db2ee64d7ea6e66737ac1224e https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9d1512f32b0c8a2db2ee64= d7ea6e66737ac1224e Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-13 (Tue, 13 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Jana's improvements Commit: 7e65291312e3daf69df8428d44f98ec5b9af8d08 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7e65291312e3daf69df842= 8d44f98ec5b9af8d08 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-13 (Tue, 13 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1151 from quicwg/symmetric-connection-id Symmetric connection IDs Commit: 3cb9e1a70621f0fb5e6e86d1eb90b20e54abdc52 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3cb9e1a70621f0fb5e6e86= d1eb90b20e54abdc52 Author: janaiyengar Date: 2018-03-13 (Tue, 13 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Remove overview section and add some to intro (#1184) * Prune overview section and add some to intro * add flow control * add flow control Commit: 3969625115cf6795d629c2dc1dcc38eb60380696 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3969625115cf6795d629c2= dc1dcc38eb60380696 Author: Sean Turner Date: 2018-03-13 (Tue, 13 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Client Intial to client Initial (#1183) * Client Intial to client Initial * removing client Commit: 3822cfda8b3462363fb2c1cb8f8d24df56c10771 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3822cfda8b3462363fb2c1= cb8f8d24df56c10771 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-13 (Tue, 13 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Move opportunistic ACK defense to security considerations (#1185) Closes #305. 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(#1202) * Specify pacing in a bit more detail. Closes 1056. * remove simply Commit: ed2958c889ed85abadef29cb7ccbe16769600884 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ed2958c889ed85abadef29= cb7ccbe16769600884 Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2018-03-14 (Wed, 14 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- App and transport errors Commit: 929274c286e56d144b1741862fbb72ba414dfded https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/929274c286e56d144b1741= 862fbb72ba414dfded Author: ianswett Date: 2018-03-14 (Wed, 14 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Ensure min_rtt is not always 0 Fixes #1169 Commit: 0284b983ef773edc0e7a38583d5a079b1966b3af https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0284b983ef773edc0e7a38= 583d5a079b1966b3af Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-14 (Wed, 14 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1204 from quicwg/error_clarity App and transport errors Commit: bf1a546a9c6b3874c344ee350b131c56d0f9b75b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/bf1a546a9c6b3874c344ee= 350b131c56d0f9b75b Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-14 (Wed, 14 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1200 from quicwg/32_is_fine Remove discussion of entry overhead Commit: 26e395d64f9eab318bd599a89003d3860352a76f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/26e395d64f9eab318bd599= a89003d3860352a76f Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2018-03-15 (Thu, 15 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Improve example Commit: 3630fdf1a02d3abf1366d5c82d99a3b75757b0af https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3630fdf1a02d3abf1366d5= c82d99a3b75757b0af Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2018-03-15 (Thu, 15 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Parameter naming Commit: e80bc34b2def031807a9f96258fef1693d8c7589 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e80bc34b2def031807a9f9= 6258fef1693d8c7589 Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2018-03-15 (Thu, 15 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Corresponding Commit: 8d450dbc1a10f8df095492940b7fc88592cc4c29 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8d450dbc1a10f8df095492= 940b7fc88592cc4c29 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-15 (Thu, 15 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Prohibit STOP_SENDING for streams in the wrong state Closes #1050. Commit: 2b51d80b2e7f3ac0bbdf493d5dc6a8f77932f0be https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2b51d80b2e7f3ac0bbdf49= 3d5dc6a8f77932f0be Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-15 (Thu, 15 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Remove duplicate TLP reference Commit: 2d0ba7dca103762b28191c1a5085c6debbaa7886 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2d0ba7dca103762b28191c= 1a5085c6debbaa7886 Author: janaiyengar Date: 2018-03-15 (Thu, 15 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Mandate ACK and allow PADDING in Revert See discussion in #627 for the stronger language for ACK frames. Closes #1067. Updates #627. Commit: d9096de3024c4fe53c909a32ade410e64afb8120 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d9096de3024c4fe53c909a= 32ade410e64afb8120 Author: janaiyengar Date: 2018-03-15 (Thu, 15 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- f*** whitespace Commit: 00e9298c293c0d252882a9c32b4d5a383deb9173 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/00e9298c293c0d252882a9= c32b4d5a383deb9173 Author: janaiyengar Date: 2018-03-15 (Thu, 15 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- ACK for Initial packet ... RTT measurement is a bonus. Commit: fd227f197dee5c85816d5bba9d5a65cf4e2c3b97 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/fd227f197dee5c85816d5b= ba9d5a65cf4e2c3b97 Author: Sean Turner Date: 2018-03-15 (Thu, 15 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1199 from quicwg/this-is-a-retry Create a signal about HelloRetryRequest Commit: 6b8ce22285703f9c93b8ff85918abb51aad3ef3f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6b8ce22285703f9c93b8ff= 85918abb51aad3ef3f Author: janaiyengar Date: 2018-03-15 (Thu, 15 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- reflow because f*** web editor Commit: fdb375dfb34012de757528a60a2847232b0c4de1 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/fdb375dfb34012de757528= a60a2847232b0c4de1 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-15 (Thu, 15 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #882 from marten-seemann/simplify-stateless-retry require ACKs and allow PADDING in the Server Stateless Retry packet Commit: 5bd5e9c7d4b676ebf5f3961232a05d4e9b6755bc https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5bd5e9c7d4b676ebf5f396= 1232a05d4e9b6755bc Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-15 (Thu, 15 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Rename 'Open' to 'Ready' for send streams (#1205) Commit: 6ea7707fad350f00d0ed12aea8a3ff58d8b524f1 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6ea7707fad350f00d0ed12= aea8a3ff58d8b524f1 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-15 (Thu, 15 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Trial decryption on TLS stream for 0-RTT rejection ...isn't necessary because there will be no records protected with 0-RTT keys. Closes #1172. Commit: 910a81f331ea7a9577c00325bf9c7d87c46ab705 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/910a81f331ea7a9577c003= 25bf9c7d87c46ab705 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-15 (Thu, 15 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- 0-RTT is rejected with Retry and VN Closes #1206. Commit: e0fcbe8ebb310305f2e73996d6fa67bd8c36a701 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e0fcbe8ebb310305f2e739= 96d6fa67bd8c36a701 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-15 (Thu, 15 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Reboot state Commit: efb1a1dfc849eb53b086f41c9d5bb8bca9065c50 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/efb1a1dfc849eb53b086f4= 1c9d5bb8bca9065c50 Author: Sean Turner Date: 2018-03-15 (Thu, 15 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1208 from quicwg/0rtt-after-retry 0rtt after retry Commit: a699047c75f545e757014920441c4564924b93ad https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a699047c75f545e7570149= 20441c4564924b93ad Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-15 (Thu, 15 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1065 from quicwg/stream_count Transport parameters are stream counts, not IDs Commit: 492f56f02a9c96627a40d0da2195b59702c17828 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/492f56f02a9c96627a40d0= da2195b59702c17828 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-03-15 (Thu, 15 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M .circleci/config.yml M Makefile M README.md M draft-ietf-quic-http.md A draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md A draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge branch 'master' into cross-version-resumption Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/06384b89ef18...492= f56f02a9c= ----==_mimepart_5aaa65efad6ba_47fc2acd9aa67c04106665-- From nobody Thu Mar 15 05:25:17 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38B82128961 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2018 05:25:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iwLYyg4JQiHU for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2018 05:25:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o8.sgmail.github.com (o8.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.199]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EF18C126CD8 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2018 05:25:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=vbVjdPKJf09Fg0vx1+ECp0tOmQg=; b=EuNRstN+fc4490J7 /vgHR7IRFCucVQJ4JTWQGNPcwUR1HiX5LgIMa4ApWUYX0lEZYFBEXp86Z5XnQ/je NaGX0rG9pf9vz3J+9GdgDLaBRbIpp3+Oj478QmWP1IBT3KCD535szy0rqPLh0nC0 PDKoy5+RXP+Tv39a1D/nM4gkBEc= Received: by filter0529p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0529p1las1-31908-5AAA6629-10 2018-03-15 12:25:13.506226819 +0000 UTC Received: from smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) by ismtpd0049p1mdw1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id N13nh1LkRkC4G1TOiZpKlg for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2018 12:25:13.516 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 12:25:13 +0000 (UTC) From: Sean Turner Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove cross-protocol resumption (#1057) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aaa6628cbf1e_d5b3fb391446f2c10551d3"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: seanturner X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak1MPqQ7/hqaxMo/bjgoF5qpMnBAub8BXkq6sO lAg67NHERXLsyHhgQwQkmAEPMAdo20cS/ymrBc203EsvqEIM/vxx1Zw6lf7AZ4ZcDKjIlAtjVYFL2F u7vRxEUo9ny7EMPQTEG4cyjoTcD13fmFhhqb5SK5GNXolaU7DOCeTT6c431WT3s14am+sBlJb6SGkp k= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 12:25:15 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aaa6628cbf1e_d5b3fb391446f2c10551d3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit seanturner approved this pull request. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Sorry for being unclear - I meant to express the same as #827 does and the commit that reso= lves it:

"If a client receives a packet that has an unsupported version, it MUST = discard that packet."

I'd say this ought to be an invariant because otherwise versions could d= isgree on this.

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The transport draft text on PMTU (8.4. Path Maximum Transmission Unit) says

... limit of 1280 followed by:
" Some QUIC implementations MAY wish to be more conservative in computing allowed QUIC packet size given unknown tunneling overheads or IP header options."

But the handshake requires banging against this limit, so it is not practical to reduce the limit in anticipation of tunnelling overhead.

There are two reasons for having the handshake at 1280: 1) to guarantee that 1280 really is available and force infrastructure to respect this, and 2) to discourage amplification attacks.

Perhaps it is better to set the handshake minimum to 1000 octets and encourage the use of 1280 for an initial PMTU unless additional tunneling concerns needs to be addressed. Alternatively edit the discussion on PMTU because it is not practical to reduce the size with the current handshake.

As discussed on list, it is often the case that ether frames have 1500+ octets, but when tunnels get layered, this might not be enough.

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Maybe I'm missing details, but I have previously suggested segmented p= acket numbers

#1105

It might be slightly more complicated, but it is faster, it helps moni= toring, and it helps ACK timings per path, and it allows for larger packe= t number space. But it dos not provide a unique packet ordering.

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LGTM. sniff

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -1372,13 +1386,15 @@ See {{useless}} for a discussion of these risks.
 To avoid receiving TLS packets that contain no useful data, a TLS implementation
 MUST reject empty TLS handshake records and any record that is not permitted by
 the TLS state machine.  Any TLS application data or alerts that is received

nit: "that is received" => "that are received"

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I'm not sure this really needs to be addressed the invariants already = says:

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Attempts to resolve #1175.

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Fixes Issue #591

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  • No more Retransmittable

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  
 * Crypto handshake data is sent on stream 0, and uses the reliability
   machinery of QUIC underneath.
 
 * ACK frames contain acknowledgment information.  ACK frames contain one or more
-  ranges of acknowledged packets.
+  ranges of acknowledged packets and are not congestion controlled.

This now sounds like ACKs never count towards the bytes_in_flight. As far as I understand the rest of this PR, this only applies for ACK-only packets though, right?

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -538,9 +539,9 @@ max_ack_delay:
   RTT sample less than min_rtt.
 
 reordering_threshold:
-: The largest delta between the largest acked
-  retransmittable packet and a packet containing retransmittable frames before
-  it's declared lost.
+: The largest packet number gap between the largest acked
+  congestion controlled packet and smaller unacknowledged congestion

This is the first reference you have to congestion controlled packet. You haven't explicitly defined what this means. I assume it is just a packet that contains at least 1 congestion controlled frame, but I think it would be worth explicitly stating that above.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -538,9 +539,9 @@ max_ack_delay:
   RTT sample less than min_rtt.
 
 reordering_threshold:
-: The largest delta between the largest acked
-  retransmittable packet and a packet containing retransmittable frames before
-  it's declared lost.
+: The largest packet number gap between the largest acked
+  congestion controlled packet and smaller unacknowledged congestion
+  controlled packet before it is declared lost.

Why does reordering_threshold care about congestion-controlled or not? If you have the following outstanding packets:

  1. ACK only
  2. ACK only
  3. ACK only
  4. MAX_DATA only

And then you get an ACK for packet 4, should you not consider any of the previous packets as lost? I understand that marking a non-congestion controlled packet as lost might have no effect, but it is lost nonetheless, right?

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----==_mimepart_5aaaa23a3dfc_14132ad679ac6ec4179558-- From nobody Thu Mar 15 09:50:47 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 748891252BA for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2018 09:50:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.605 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.605 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id b_BFmCUdPCDv for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2018 09:50:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o5.sgmail.github.com (o5.sgmail.github.com [192.254.113.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A08E3124B0A for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2018 09:50:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=CTTht8FNvrVF7aqgYSJBH2sbLnI=; b=R3OxMOU7EhNKVLmc o76PEr2dggVzPOquvaOih+HKMxW09BnWme2v30vvhzQNOFHRBXdIp+2X/ezcP5RU jFdlHu5d26ICu7X2X964g6rR+HCxSOijfm/feqUsGNsC1MBcaIqoSuTL1m+yWyAz 90NLJx/FrP9wa+NSJ3+ZtHARo+U= Received: by filter0588p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0588p1las1-10697-5AAAA462-2F 2018-03-15 16:50:42.876418937 +0000 UTC Received: from smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) by ismtpd0022p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id FKXhx4IXR4qZ319YlkwMgA for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2018 16:50:42.834 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 16:50:43 +0000 (UTC) From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] confusing Fast Retransmit modes (#1212) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aaaa462a6991_119f2b16dbfe0ed0335811"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak2ayPQBtAtMGLIVahm04/gzYAGHtoLmqvljIS C7HVvkqK0ipfw8S6orFnhM+UrjxTrUWTB9mxb2aKdV5bqEIziFTKn2i6dpHSwLkAvqpj1+jVjDd4zq eryEoXh8VrCUfs19ujCrLLhRGgm4CluaCn3vmZRWh/G9q1GLHL0MAzu9/5mdjU/VmWG+fRkLSyoU/1 U= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 16:50:45 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aaaa462a6991_119f2b16dbfe0ed0335811 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The loss recovery spec describes to different (and mutually exclusive) Fast Retransmit modes: one detects reordering in packet number space, the other one in time space. The Fast Retransmit section is not clear about the fact that implementations have to choose one or the other mode, and just mentions time reordering at the very end. Furthermore, I find the pseudo code for `DetectLostPackets` pretty hard to read, since depending on the mode, different variables are set to infinite and then used in comparisons. It would probably be easier to provide two different definitions of this functions depending on the mode. I'd be happy to write up a PR, if people agree that the current text needs improvement in that direction. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1212 ----==_mimepart_5aaaa462a6991_119f2b16dbfe0ed0335811 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The loss recovery spec describes to different (and mutually exclusive) Fast Retransmit modes: one detects reordering in packet number space, the other one in time space.

The Fast Retransmit section is not clear about the fact that implementations have to choose one or the other mode, and just mentions time reordering at the very end.

Furthermore, I find the pseudo code for DetectLostPackets pretty hard to read, since depending on the mode, different variables are set to infinite and then used in comparisons. It would probably be easier to provide two different definitions of this functions depending on the mode.

I'd be happy to write up a PR, if people agree that the current text needs improvement in that direction.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -538,9 +539,9 @@ max_ack_delay:
   RTT sample less than min_rtt.
 
 reordering_threshold:
-: The largest delta between the largest acked
-  retransmittable packet and a packet containing retransmittable frames before
-  it's declared lost.
+: The largest packet number gap between the largest acked
+  congestion controlled packet and smaller unacknowledged congestion
+  controlled packet before it is declared lost.

@nibanks You don't even save packets 1 to 3 (in the sent_packets), so when receiving the ACK for 4, you wouldn't even remember that you ever sent them.

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Every packet may contain several frames. We outline the frames that are important to the loss detection and congestion control machinery below. -* Retransmittable frames are frames requiring reliable delivery. The most - common are STREAM frames, which typically contain application data. +* Congestion controlled frames are frames that count towards bytes in + flight and need acknowledgement. The most common are STREAM frames, hyphenate bytes-in-flight > @@ -100,8 +100,9 @@ interpretation of TCP loss detection mechanisms. Every packet may contain several frames. We outline the frames that are important to the loss detection and congestion control machinery below. -* Retransmittable frames are frames requiring reliable delivery. The most - common are STREAM frames, which typically contain application data. +* Congestion controlled frames are frames that count towards bytes in "frames are those" > @@ -100,8 +100,9 @@ interpretation of TCP loss detection mechanisms. Every packet may contain several frames. We outline the frames that are important to the loss detection and congestion control machinery below. -* Retransmittable frames are frames requiring reliable delivery. The most - common are STREAM frames, which typically contain application data. +* Congestion controlled frames are frames that count towards bytes in "congestion-controlled" > @@ -538,9 +539,9 @@ max_ack_delay: RTT sample less than min_rtt. reordering_threshold: -: The largest delta between the largest acked - retransmittable packet and a packet containing retransmittable frames before - it's declared lost. +: The largest packet number gap between the largest acked + congestion controlled packet and smaller unacknowledged congestion "unacknowledged congestion-controlled packet with a lower packet number" -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -100,8 +100,9 @@ interpretation of TCP loss detection mechanisms.
 Every packet may contain several frames.  We outline the frames that are
 important to the loss detection and congestion control machinery below.
 
-* Retransmittable frames are frames requiring reliable delivery.  The most
-  common are STREAM frames, which typically contain application data.
+* Congestion controlled frames are frames that count towards bytes in
+  flight and need acknowledgement.  The most common are STREAM frames,

hyphenate bytes-in-flight

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -100,8 +100,9 @@ interpretation of TCP loss detection mechanisms.
 Every packet may contain several frames.  We outline the frames that are
 important to the loss detection and congestion control machinery below.
 
-* Retransmittable frames are frames requiring reliable delivery.  The most
-  common are STREAM frames, which typically contain application data.
+* Congestion controlled frames are frames that count towards bytes in

"frames are those"

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -100,8 +100,9 @@ interpretation of TCP loss detection mechanisms.
 Every packet may contain several frames.  We outline the frames that are
 important to the loss detection and congestion control machinery below.
 
-* Retransmittable frames are frames requiring reliable delivery.  The most
-  common are STREAM frames, which typically contain application data.
+* Congestion controlled frames are frames that count towards bytes in

"congestion-controlled"

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -538,9 +539,9 @@ max_ack_delay:
   RTT sample less than min_rtt.
 
 reordering_threshold:
-: The largest delta between the largest acked
-  retransmittable packet and a packet containing retransmittable frames before
-  it's declared lost.
+: The largest packet number gap between the largest acked
+  congestion controlled packet and smaller unacknowledged congestion

"unacknowledged congestion-controlled packet with a lower packet number"

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -538,9 +539,9 @@ max_ack_delay:
   RTT sample less than min_rtt.
 
 reordering_threshold:
-: The largest delta between the largest acked
-  retransmittable packet and a packet containing retransmittable frames before
-  it's declared lost.
+: The largest packet number gap between the largest acked
+  congestion controlled packet and smaller unacknowledged congestion
+  controlled packet before it is declared lost.

Yes, I agree you don't need to save them, but if you want to, for purely a statistical measurement of loss, couldn't you remember them?

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit marten-seemann commented on this pull request. > @@ -538,9 +539,9 @@ max_ack_delay: RTT sample less than min_rtt. reordering_threshold: -: The largest delta between the largest acked - retransmittable packet and a packet containing retransmittable frames before - it's declared lost. +: The largest packet number gap between the largest acked + congestion controlled packet and smaller unacknowledged congestion + controlled packet before it is declared lost. You *could* do that, but you'll probably have to be very careful about loss at the tails. I'm not sure if this would be an improvement over a measurement that just uses retransmittable packets though. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1211#discussion_r174857221 ----==_mimepart_5aaaa6b2247f5_2e602ae5eaf1ced02207f5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -538,9 +539,9 @@ max_ack_delay:
   RTT sample less than min_rtt.
 
 reordering_threshold:
-: The largest delta between the largest acked
-  retransmittable packet and a packet containing retransmittable frames before
-  it's declared lost.
+: The largest packet number gap between the largest acked
+  congestion controlled packet and smaller unacknowledged congestion
+  controlled packet before it is declared lost.

You could do that, but you'll probably have to be very careful about loss at the tails. I'm not sure if this would be an improvement over a measurement that just uses retransmittable packets though.

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Looks good, some minor points: 1) how about a ref to the PUSH_PROMISE frame? 2) the Push ID text is still awkward. In one paragraph it refs to 4.2.6 and in the following paragraph some text explains what Push ID means. I think some editing could fix this. 3) "includes request header fields attributed to the request." I don't understand what this means. Can we just say pseudo-request or something? 4) I noticed the document structure causes the CANCEL_PUSH frame to be defined before the PUSH_PROMISE frame. Could that be reordered or is it that way for a good reason? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1210#pullrequestreview-104294951 ----==_mimepart_5aaaa865f2ee3_2dc02ac826f46ec43241a9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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Looks good, some minor points:

  1. how about a ref to the PUSH_PROMISE frame?
  2. the Push ID text is still awkward. In one paragraph it refs to 4.2.6 and in the following paragraph some text explains what Push ID means. I think some editing could fix this.
  3. "includes request header fields attributed to the request." I don't understand what this means. Can we just say pseudo-request or something?
  4. I noticed the document structure
    causes the CANCEL_PUSH frame to be defined before the PUSH_PROMISE frame. Could that be reordered or is it that way for a good reason?

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Fixes #1087.

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This is just one of the practicalities of an Alt-Svc deployment; it's not necessary to call it out here. (Though perhaps it's worth a mention in the manageability document, since QUIC is the most likely candidate to hit it.)

Fixes #929.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -538,9 +539,9 @@ max_ack_delay:
   RTT sample less than min_rtt.
 
 reordering_threshold:
-: The largest delta between the largest acked
-  retransmittable packet and a packet containing retransmittable frames before
-  it's declared lost.
+: The largest packet number gap between the largest acked
+  congestion controlled packet and smaller unacknowledged congestion
+  controlled packet before it is declared lost.

How would you deal with optimistic ACK attack if you forget? It is valid to ACK an unackable packet if it is together with other packets, right?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3419,7 +3419,7 @@ cryptographic handshake.  This includes the retransmission of the second flight
 of client handshake messages, that is, the TLS Finished and any client
 authentication messages.
 
-STREAM frames that are determined to be lost SHOULD be retransmitted before
+STREAM data in frames determined to be lost SHOULD be retransmitted before

Data in STREAM frames. We wouldn't all-caps it if it's talking about "stream data".

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LGTM. The change from header to record is also a good spot.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3419,7 +3419,7 @@ cryptographic handshake.  This includes the retransmission of the second flight
 of client handshake messages, that is, the TLS Finished and any client
 authentication messages.
 
-STREAM frames that are determined to be lost SHOULD be retransmitted before
+STREAM data in frames determined to be lost SHOULD be retransmitted before

Could it be stated more explicitly that retransmitted data may have different framing and overlap, just to avoid the odd interop problem?

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----==_mimepart_5aaaad661b1fd_266e2afb8edd8ed4128326-- From nobody Thu Mar 15 10:37:52 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFBFA12D96D for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2018 10:37:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, GB_SUMOF=5, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kV7zM4ZdpwuO for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2018 10:37:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 15CAD12D80E for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2018 10:37:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 10:37:48 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1521135468; bh=1AytuWE9urXvSG4XKj8toLWv/0ypSlPWd3ePnXeBsAc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=EJevN4EdJREPC7A/69CCZ9HYDJ1a+wcPwcbE5/bsiOdDLNvKf1/YiS5dKs320jRn3 kXgCdjTiAj4Ltw0LBURSSR11hLn0/6Os/oNEsIbNtawfs0mYBu4s+Pok+NVOqvM1Zi IVOHVnuQ2+EiNL3DqPMKosw0r06pLB3cBnJdp31o= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] No more Retransmittable (#1211) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aaaaf6c12a71_34fd2b1a206f0ecc13691d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 17:37:51 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aaaaf6c12a71_34fd2b1a206f0ecc13691d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MikeBishop commented on this pull request. > @@ -538,9 +539,9 @@ max_ack_delay: RTT sample less than min_rtt. reordering_threshold: -: The largest delta between the largest acked - retransmittable packet and a packet containing retransmittable frames before - it's declared lost. +: The largest packet number gap between the largest acked + congestion controlled packet and smaller unacknowledged congestion + controlled packet before it is declared lost. All packets except Reset are ackable, and so they are included in the ACK when it's sent. ACK-only packets don't provoke an ACK in response, however. > @@ -970,9 +971,9 @@ are described in this section. bytes_in_flight: : The sum of the size in bytes of all sent packets that contain at least - one retransmittable or PADDING frame, and have not been acked or - declared lost. The size does not include IP or UDP overhead. - Packets only containing ACK frames do not count towards byte_in_flight + one congestion controlled frame, and have not been acked or declared hyphenate > @@ -733,8 +734,8 @@ Pseudocode for SetLossDetectionAlarm follows: ~~~ SetLossDetectionAlarm(): // Don't arm the alarm if there are no packets with - // retransmittable data in flight. - if (num_retransmittable_packets_outstanding == 0): + // congestion controlled data in flight. hyphenate > @@ -711,10 +712,10 @@ response to 0RTT packets. #### Tail Loss Probe and Retransmission Alarm -Tail loss probes {{?TLP}} and -retransmission timeouts {{?RFC6298}} are an alarm based mechanism to recover -from cases when there are outstanding retransmittable packets, but an -acknowledgement has not been received in a timely manner. +Tail loss probes {{?TLP}} and retransmission timeouts {{?RFC6298}} +are an alarm based mechanism to recover from cases when there are +outstanding congestion controlled packets, but an acknowledgement has hyphenate -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1211#pullrequestreview-104305758 ----==_mimepart_5aaaaf6c12a71_34fd2b1a206f0ecc13691d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -538,9 +539,9 @@ max_ack_delay:
   RTT sample less than min_rtt.
 
 reordering_threshold:
-: The largest delta between the largest acked
-  retransmittable packet and a packet containing retransmittable frames before
-  it's declared lost.
+: The largest packet number gap between the largest acked
+  congestion controlled packet and smaller unacknowledged congestion
+  controlled packet before it is declared lost.

All packets except Reset are ackable, and so they are included in the ACK when it's sent. ACK-only packets don't provoke an ACK in response, however.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -970,9 +971,9 @@ are described in this section.
 
 bytes_in_flight:
 : The sum of the size in bytes of all sent packets that contain at least
-  one retransmittable or PADDING frame, and have not been acked or
-  declared lost. The size does not include IP or UDP overhead.
-  Packets only containing ACK frames do not count towards byte_in_flight
+  one congestion controlled frame, and have not been acked or declared

hyphenate

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -733,8 +734,8 @@ Pseudocode for SetLossDetectionAlarm follows:
 ~~~
  SetLossDetectionAlarm():
     // Don't arm the alarm if there are no packets with
-    // retransmittable data in flight.
-    if (num_retransmittable_packets_outstanding == 0):
+    // congestion controlled data in flight.

hyphenate

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -711,10 +712,10 @@ response to 0RTT packets.
 
 #### Tail Loss Probe and Retransmission Alarm
 
-Tail loss probes {{?TLP}} and
-retransmission timeouts {{?RFC6298}} are an alarm based mechanism to recover
-from cases when there are outstanding retransmittable packets, but an
-acknowledgement has not been received in a timely manner.
+Tail loss probes {{?TLP}} and retransmission timeouts {{?RFC6298}}
+are an alarm based mechanism to recover from cases when there are
+outstanding congestion controlled packets, but an acknowledgement has

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2018 16:15:53 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aaa9c3578425_1d852ac58f1a9c1020668 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Branch: refs/heads/migration2 Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: 3b5d42990cecf5ae3ae0033660fdcf1bfaa2dfaf https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3b5d42990cecf5ae3ae0033660fdcf1bfaa2dfaf Author: Eric Kinnear Date: 2017-12-04 (Mon, 04 Dec 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Initial text for new frame types Commit: 24bcd24196d2ba68da3c38d811e1139a0b6e6f45 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/24bcd24196d2ba68da3c38d811e1139a0b6e6f45 Author: Eric Kinnear Date: 2017-12-04 (Mon, 04 Dec 2017) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Replace ping/pong frame Commit: 84266aef4cdf8df521983c4608fe3191c43c8cb2 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/84266aef4cdf8df521983c4608fe3191c43c8cb2 Author: Eric Kinnear Date: 2017-12-05 (Tue, 05 Dec 2017) Changed 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Commit: 5378c0305884dddb12aa4ee775fcee2b99adc6af https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5378c0305884dddb12aa4ee775fcee2b99adc6af Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2018-03-07 (Wed, 07 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Mike's comments Commit: 30025deb9f23233a56f2846fd39ba2a38c0e4f1e https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/30025deb9f23233a56f2846fd39ba2a38c0e4f1e Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2018-03-07 (Wed, 07 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- client connection migration Commit: b956ba8ca800f805e4e6d92ae4134da51df2e13b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b956ba8ca800f805e4e6d92ae4134da51df2e13b Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2018-03-07 (Wed, 07 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- eric's comments Commit: be2afd3628dea564e019dc816d20e1aa0b4a17ca https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/be2afd3628dea564e019dc816d20e1aa0b4a17ca Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2018-03-08 (Thu, 08 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- comments Commit: 441d6e9b555ef3265eaa33342ec51a94e8b9860a https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/441d6e9b555ef3265eaa33342ec51a94e8b9860a Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2018-03-14 (Wed, 14 Mar 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- martin comments Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/cbcc9b3949e5...441d6e9b555e ----==_mimepart_5aaa9c3578425_1d852ac58f1a9c1020668-- From nobody Thu Mar 15 13:42:14 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BED79124BE8 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2018 13:42:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.605 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.605 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0wETE3SfRlg4 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2018 13:42:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o6.sgmail.github.com (o6.sgmail.github.com [192.254.113.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1DD5D1200F1 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2018 13:42:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=wd7O5MMhx6+da8tj424rTXMRTmY=; b=CxaCT2Vf2mqM7gtC FOOQ80XW+MV2Q4QMaDY1DhsHd4uBvZK5ItUzFhz60m518OC2mnT08Bd5CMN9cPMA 7gFud5XZRS/6nrIW1qE/QoSEau87hwYBz8t+5I2Qfok5UWSsCB+HM+t18mHjqu5P SNs8clbI6/AKLvmm8MsA2VX8ZOU= Received: by filter0440p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0440p1iad2-30483-5AAADAA1-2F 2018-03-15 20:42:09.488448846 +0000 UTC Received: from smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) by ismtpd0015p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id C420hg3kRD-GwwuV4RPBjA for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2018 20:42:09.544 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 20:42:09 +0000 (UTC) From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Migration (487a3ee) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aaadaa160ecc_a2e2b2087610ecc145975"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak0zCqL5GkCNXb0Fv2AE3gCdNAO4BaBOXJIDG6 NWf3B4QHfo8vWgb115k6z3TF2GWEGTgfW3hJ4fe08HGvetajJj+BQBASxdlv1hXdFKjP/J1ghHrneE 1fP1ApT/DC0D8T1RRKyGRRnasU6IAMub9oM580t7B6e0qYMHWVvgY0LXMeWDwxzkQHnSeZnELTsj1u k= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 20:42:13 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aaadaa160ecc_a2e2b2087610ecc145975 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Should we permit NEW_CONNECTION_ID in probes too, so the client can supply a CID to be used with the PROBE_RESPONSE? 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Should we permit NEW_CONNECTION_ID in probes too, so the client can supp= ly a CID to be used with the PROBE_RESPONSE? The server is required to use= a new CID here (because the client did), but if it's out, then the NEW_CID= frame on the original path will be racing with the probe.

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Specifically: 1) He disliked the out-of-band flag I got rid of the flag and encoded 2 varints (the largest reference and the encoding base) in all stream blocks. In one-pass encoding, largest reference may be smaller than the encoding base (eg: the block didn't reference the most recent table entry) or larger (the block triggered an insert/duplication). Just eyeballing it, both are required about half the time, and the delta was always small enough to fit in a single byte. Note the delta needs to be encoded with a sign bit. ``` [ Depends Index(8+) ] [ S | Base Delta (7+) ] ``` Where Depends Index is the largest reference in the block, and `baseIndex = (S) ? dependsIndex - delta : dependsIndex + delta` If someone really wanted to save the byte when they are the same, we could encode a flag in the MSB of Depends Index and give it a 7 bit prefix. 2) He thought including length was messy/large and could maybe do it with different instructions, possibly reusing some unused HPACK ones. Fortunately, there are two unused HPACK instructions on QPACK request streams that can be repurposed. I changed 'Literal with incremental indexing' to 'Literal with name index higher than base', and 'Table size update' to 'Indexed with index higher than base'. Indexes in these instructions are found at absolute index = baseIndex + index (- 61 optional, I did it for consistency). This also leaves only a single HPACK instruction invalid in QPACK (literal on control stream). I like this approach better than using length. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1138#issuecomment-373539800 ----==_mimepart_5aaaf026e9dc6_205063fbbbd86ef30115687 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@mar= tinthomson mentioned that he didn't like this approach. Specifically:<= /p>

  1. He disliked the out-of-band flag

I got rid of the flag and encoded 2 varints (the largest reference and t= he encoding base) in all stream blocks. In one-pass encoding, largest refe= rence may be smaller than the encoding base (eg: the block didn't reference= the most recent table entry) or larger (the block triggered an insert/dupl= ication). Just eyeballing it, both are required about half the time, and t= he delta was always small enough to fit in a single byte. Note the delta n= eeds to be encoded with a sign bit.

[   Depends Index(8+) ]
[ S | Base Delta (7+) ]

Where Depends Index is the largest reference in the block, and
baseIndex =3D (S) ? dependsIndex - delta : dependsIndex + delta

If someone really wanted to save the byte when they are the same, we cou= ld encode a flag in the MSB of Depends Index and give it a 7 bit prefix.

  1. He thought including length was messy/large and could maybe do it with = different instructions, possibly reusing some unused HPACK ones.

Fortunately, there are two unused HPACK instructions on QPACK request st= reams that can be repurposed. I changed 'Literal with incremental indexing= ' to 'Literal with name index higher than base', and 'Table size update' to= 'Indexed with index higher than base'. Indexes in these instructions are= found at absolute index =3D baseIndex + index (- 61 optional, I did it for= consistency). This also leaves only a single HPACK instruction invalid in= QPACK (literal on control stream). I like this approach better than using= length.

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Oh, would you also do a PR with a PDF?

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This prompted a few thoughts that we might want to look into more. > @@ -433,28 +433,43 @@ frame. ## Server Push -HTTP/QUIC supports server push as described in {{!RFC7540}}. During connection -establishment, the client enables server push by sending a MAX_PUSH_ID frame -(see {{frame-max-push-id}}). A server cannot use server push until it receives -a MAX_PUSH_ID frame. +HTTP/QUIC supports server push in a similar manner to {{!RFC7540}}, but uses +different mechanisms. During connection establishment, the client enables server +push by sending a MAX_PUSH_ID frame (see {{frame-max-push-id}}). A server cannot +use server push until it receives a MAX_PUSH_ID frame. Which makes me wonder (probably for the second time) whether adding a setting is valuable or not. I guess not because MAX_PUSH_ID can be send immediately after SETTINGS, and having two ways to do the same thing isn't great. > As with server push for HTTP/2, the server initiates a server push by sending a -PUSH_PROMISE frame that includes request header fields attributed to the -request. The PUSH_PROMISE frame is sent on the client-initiated, bidirectional -stream that carried the request that generated the push. This allows the server -push to be associated with a request. Ordering of a PUSH_PROMISE in relation to +PUSH_PROMISE frame (see {{frame-push-promise}}) that includes request headers +for the promised request. Promised requests MUST be cacheable (see +{{!RFC7231}}, Section 4.2.3), MUST be safe (see {{RFC7231}}, Section 4.2.1), and +MUST NOT include a request body. I think that we want to reference the requirements in h2, not repeat them. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@martinthomson approved this pull request.

This prompted a few thoughts that we might want to look into more.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -433,28 +433,43 @@ frame.
 
 ## Server Push
 
-HTTP/QUIC supports server push as described in {{!RFC7540}}. During connection
-establishment, the client enables server push by sending a MAX_PUSH_ID frame
-(see {{frame-max-push-id}}).  A server cannot use server push until it receives
-a MAX_PUSH_ID frame.
+HTTP/QUIC supports server push in a similar manner to {{!RFC7540}}, but uses
+different mechanisms. During connection establishment, the client enables server
+push by sending a MAX_PUSH_ID frame (see {{frame-max-push-id}}). A server cannot
+use server push until it receives a MAX_PUSH_ID frame.

Which makes me wonder (probably for the second time) whether adding a setting is valuable or not. I guess not because MAX_PUSH_ID can be send immediately after SETTINGS, and having two ways to do the same thing isn't great.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

>  
 As with server push for HTTP/2, the server initiates a server push by sending a
-PUSH_PROMISE frame that includes request header fields attributed to the
-request. The PUSH_PROMISE frame is sent on the client-initiated, bidirectional
-stream that carried the request that generated the push.  This allows the server
-push to be associated with a request.  Ordering of a PUSH_PROMISE in relation to
+PUSH_PROMISE frame (see {{frame-push-promise}}) that includes request headers
+for the promised request.  Promised requests MUST be cacheable (see
+{{!RFC7231}}, Section 4.2.3), MUST be safe (see {{RFC7231}}, Section 4.2.1), and
+MUST NOT include a request body.

I think that we want to reference the requirements in h2, not repeat them.

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Interesting consequences for the work we did to regain control over UDP/443, but this is indeed correct.

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Merged #1215.

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@martinthomson approved this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1876,6 +1876,12 @@ connection IDs, but it MUST ensure that it applies the associated packet number
 gaps for connection IDs that it skips in addition to the packet number gap
 associated with the connection ID that it does use.
 
+Clients MAY change connection ID at any time based on implementation-specific
+concerns.  For example, after a period of network inactivity NAT rebinding might
+occur when the client begins sending data again. A client might wish to break
+linkability by employing a new connection ID when resuming traffic after

when sending packets after a period of inactivity.

"resuming traffic" is less precise

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I see. Yes, we have that text (though it suggests that a client sends VN, which is probably wrong). I'll fix that.

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Leave the details up to the specific version of QUIC. FWIW, I don't see us changing this part of the protocol, but the invariants don't require that we specify behaviour, only format, so this keeps the separation clean. Closes #1197. ----==_mimepart_5aab90e944a8b_1c202af451ec3c0c12845-- From nobody Fri Mar 16 02:40:41 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93477126DCA for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2018 02:40:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1mBRLWsaQ-4Z for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2018 02:40:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2-ext4.iad.github.net [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A1FE7124234 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2018 02:40:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2018 02:40:37 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1521193237; bh=v3yr4uUcpuh2A6VWiZp+kGjDxFM6niXWMve1+Azm79k=; h=From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=n0Vpy+EWtBdSXecDvnD1WiNYLxmGc/isoYNr4yncPQZeXuEn3W5GBjqN3Nz6l8m9H Wek3rUS5fIm9EAL2OduAJY25H1ERPPR75e1yxRXTurOyyzM1690Fo1P1krZA9/GVej fMcr95vW/hzWMz1XviY5ZFnmnCPaUYbHuUAxFzbM= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Don't imply that Version Negotiation is always sent (#1216) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aab91152766_62862ac530082ecc68196"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2018 09:40:40 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aab91152766_62862ac530082ecc68196 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ...even by a client. Leave the details up to the specific version of QUIC. FWIW, I don't see us changing this part of the protocol, but the invariants don't require that we specify behaviour, only format, so this keeps the separation clean. Closes #1197. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1216 -- Commit Summary -- * Don't imply that Version Negotiation is always sent -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md (2) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1216.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1216.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1216 ----==_mimepart_5aab91152766_62862ac530082ecc68196 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

...even by a client. Leave the details up to the specific version of
QUIC.

FWIW, I don't see us changing this part of the protocol, but the
invariants don't require that we specify behaviour, only format, so this
keeps the separation clean.

Closes #1197.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

>  
 As with server push for HTTP/2, the server initiates a server push by sending a
-PUSH_PROMISE frame that includes request header fields attributed to the
-request. The PUSH_PROMISE frame is sent on the client-initiated, bidirectional
-stream that carried the request that generated the push.  This allows the server
-push to be associated with a request.  Ordering of a PUSH_PROMISE in relation to
+PUSH_PROMISE frame (see {{frame-push-promise}}) that includes request headers
+for the promised request.  Promised requests MUST be cacheable (see
+{{!RFC7231}}, Section 4.2.3), MUST be safe (see {{RFC7231}}, Section 4.2.1), and
+MUST NOT include a request body.

I'd be happy with that

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Agreed, though technically both of these could run at once, I think it's best to describe them as two mutually exclusive modes.

A PR to improve the text and pseudocode would be appreciated, thanks.

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----==_mimepart_5aac34eedc360_f97c3fcdf82caf28341621-- From nobody Fri Mar 16 15:15:28 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2477126D0C for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2018 15:15:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sDoeGPlMDGZn for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2018 15:15:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B8981201FA for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2018 15:15:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2018 15:15:17 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1521238517; bh=IZ2h8tnvva24K04Gh0pPtsdYHoktBTRTHhQgGEuoZKE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=XlQW2llQbMM7zc9IN6G0rvw7VwA9RNMMMuVj6q5x7Jw4Xn8uCrhyRzJ9MjhFKr4tN 2wpE0ThDcwD2AZN2dQRn5RNjUnWtUcRxPxabIEnui50rV9pfP9f44bRTAzXMyPgF+5 jiJufg6un61PK9cLKLI41HSxy1PuvxgWbjMSwFm0= From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] loss recovery timers are based on time of last retransmittable packet (#1219) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aac41f52ab5b_78673fdd0c0eef381326e0"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2018 22:15:21 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aac41f52ab5b_78673fdd0c0eef381326e0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If I understand the loss recovery correctly, we should base the loss recovery timers (TLP and RTO) on the send time of the last retransmittable packet, not the last packet sent. @janaiyengar, @ianswett: Is that correct? You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1219 -- Commit Summary -- * loss recovery timers are based on time of last retransmittable packet -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md (12) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1219.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1219.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1219 ----==_mimepart_5aac41f52ab5b_78673fdd0c0eef381326e0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

If I understand the loss recovery correctly, we should base the loss recovery timers (TLP and RTO) on the send time of the last retransmittable packet, not the last packet sent.

@janaiyengar, @ianswett: Is that correct?

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -506,8 +506,8 @@ largest_sent_before_rto:
 : The last packet number sent prior to the first retransmission
   timeout.
 
-time_of_last_sent_packet:
-: The time the most recent packet was sent.
+time_of_last_sent_retransmittable_packet:

I'm trying to remove the use of retransmittable from this document in a different PR, so I'd prefer not to add it here. Can you change the text below to be "The time the most recent congestion-controlled packet was sent."? For the variable rename, is there something shorter we could come up with that doesn't use the word retransmittable?

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The text says

The alarm duration, or Probe Timeout (PTO), is set based on the following conditions:

  • PTO SHOULD be scheduled for max(1.5*SRTT+MaxAckDelay, 10ms)
  • If RTO (Section 3.3.2) is earlier, schedule a TLP alarm in its place. That is, PTO SHOULD be scheduled for min(RTO, PTO).

The second point is missing in the pseudo code:

else if (tlp_count < kMaxTLPs):
      // Tail Loss Probe
      alarm_duration = max(1.5 * smoothed_rtt + max_ack_delay, kMinTLPTimeout)

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -506,8 +506,8 @@ largest_sent_before_rto:
 : The last packet number sent prior to the first retransmission
   timeout.
 
-time_of_last_sent_packet:
-: The time the most recent packet was sent.
+time_of_last_sent_retransmittable_packet:

I used retransmitted here since your PR isn't merged yet.

Maybe we can call these packets ackable instead of congestion controlled? I'm not sure if I really like this term, since ACK-only packets can also be acked (later, as soon as a retransmittable packet is received), but I can't think of anything better right now.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -506,8 +506,8 @@ largest_sent_before_rto:
 : The last packet number sent prior to the first retransmission
   timeout.
 
-time_of_last_sent_packet:
-: The time the most recent packet was sent.
+time_of_last_sent_retransmittable_packet:

time_of_last_ack_eliciting_packet?

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ya there's some places which use the delayUntilLost for for time space for the early retransmit threshold. It might be nice to separate those two out to show that early retransmit is always active.

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----==_mimepart_5aacdd855b313_65852ae2a2146ec8296432-- From nobody Sat Mar 17 02:19:20 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 823BF127419 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2018 02:19:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.499 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.499 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Z-_3_njle7-F for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2018 02:19:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from m71-131.mailgun.net (m71-131.mailgun.net [166.78.71.131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2FDB0127601 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2018 02:19:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; v=1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; q=dns/txt; s=mailo; t=1521278356; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type: Mime-Version: Subject: Message-ID: To: Reply-To: From: Date: Sender; bh=tiGSMAEgKa6MwHKBP4PzCxJ0h3+urOWv3RTStBsVQns=; b=fAlHMP/NPX6kfqatyWLHwWmkm+Py/LbFmMnRQRtk9LC1MyXNG6tq/s0LpkjKBro868kr5s/2 KyE72l4fGsCStMS1Q9VU53iBrPJ/naRlJ3Cb7bNWMjr91H/dxouTtfa5trgaTS0t38dUPn/s wt3bboYs4YEXjLi5Gj7uvojXd+I= X-Mailgun-Sid: WyJhNzYyYiIsICJxdWljLWlzc3Vlc0BpZXRmLm9yZyIsICI0MGYiXQ== X-Mailgun-Sending-Ip: 166.78.71.131 Sender: martin.thomson=gmail.com@github.com Received: from github.com (Unknown [192.30.252.44]) by mxa.mailgun.org with ESMTP id 5aacdd94.7faa0006f3f0-smtp-out-n01; Sat, 17 Mar 2018 09:19:16 -0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 02:19:15 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: <5aacdd93c6a3a_5ae92b09608cfc0010842d@hookshot-fe-6e9b612.cp1-iad.github.net.mail> Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] 6651ef: Don't imply that Version Negotiation is always sen... 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Leave the details up to the specific version of QUIC. FWIW, I don't see us changing this part of the protocol, but the invariants don't require that we specify behaviour, only format, so this keeps the separation clean. 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----==_mimepart_5aacdd9656f03_7bf23feafbf5af342293e4-- From nobody Sat Mar 17 02:27:25 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D7DD127698 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2018 02:27:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3g8h3jpV8_Gn for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2018 02:27:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 247DE127419 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2018 02:27:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 02:27:21 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1521278841; bh=W/fUloX40QOTfIeizoa6YIGkDruXgZS+4RX8umljSSw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=rAqVxVwMg7WCHVzAa8i2A7mY4aDMTEW1SL55nyxCSFOESPialgSZhMuYZADeZUkcw +CmwkbcShvKAeowxmHNIvm0HYVgB4gAjJDwOzQ5bqiKCpS3+bivnRWtHemjPJprNW4 72SqnBbjTf4qKNmovm7n0Su5t8EhLWeiKEZteAuA= From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] loss recovery timers are based on time of last retransmittable packet (#1219) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aacdf7957b4c_6f442acc04daaed0169735"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 09:27:23 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aacdf7957b4c_6f442acc04daaed0169735 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think the discussion about the right term belongs in #1211. Ian chose "congestion controlled" there, and I'm fine with this term, although it makes variable names pretty long. If we merge this PR here first, #1211 should be rebased and change the variable name. If we merge #1211 first, I'll rebase this PR to reflect whatever term we came up with. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1219#issuecomment-373906726 ----==_mimepart_5aacdf7957b4c_6f442acc04daaed0169735 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I think the discussion about the right term belongs in #1211. Ian chose "congestion= controlled" there, and I'm fine with this term, although it makes variab= le names pretty long.

If we merge this PR here first, #1211 should be rebased and change the variable nam= e. If we merge #1= 211 first, I'll rebase this PR to reflect whatever term we came up wi= th.

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We could define two terms more explicitly elsewhere - for example Signal= packet and Reliable packet where signal packets must elicit an ACK and Car= rier packets SHOULD elicit an ack.
It still sort of suggests that the packet is retransmitted, but then, the l= ogic as at packet level.

The name would then be, as @mcmanus suggests:

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= ----==_mimepart_5aacf14f15bbf_5e782aaba44b6ed0325068-- From nobody Sat Mar 17 03:52:04 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1271B127863 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2018 03:52:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FLyio6fmRZ8N for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2018 03:52:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o9.sgmail.github.com (o9.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2B9B2124B17 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2018 03:52:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=+cfF0YSSW+rxBxMbAQvDckvHtCo=; b=oAaF1koYU3jZfJLN yk6ck2CN9fA4cObI+at8qEiOLIcTH21sqsIYAUViVsZTRuvgZsJCWetiAlxdXkuJ E37eVAwYj2eZ3ISvcn3b1lB5JKMzxWZLI/bSKJOPfddyIGwLglv2feVL5YffFgeW x0ctDOaH95KGEpEzUpjx1ZY6jhk= Received: by filter0350p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0350p1las1-3006-5AACF34E-1D 2018-03-17 10:51:58.979315995 +0000 UTC Received: from smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) by ismtpd0006p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id 9NWjcgdgRiKlp2gOo9Ot4A for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2018 10:51:58.930 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 10:51:59 +0000 (UTC) From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] loss recovery timers are based on time of last retransmittable packet (#1219) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aacf34ed44fc_55f02acc04daaed06328df"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak0NAhB0JCq5+EIJ94b1sEQ9zbN6OzEmHQt7+U uN61g3/wueZhzPgiNs3VvBfRh95xW0RC717WBp+VfVhdLm5J+wqMsE7lxhXbcelHAeLoGjG8xLaVAz Uu0nZkyi9du2pvk9CavJseeRggfIaeoM+l7CoEw6aAnstIxpnvvxOEH0zUtMxLF69JCw3AoP3FCqhg 0= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 10:52:02 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aacf34ed44fc_55f02acc04daaed06328df Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'd rather not introduce the word reliable here, since this term is really about whether it counts towards bytes_in_flight and therefore whether it invokes an ack. Even in a use case where nothing is ever retransmitted, congestion control and acknowledgement behavior are still relevant. On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 6:43 AM MikkelFJ wrote: > We could define two terms more explicitly elsewhere - for example Signal > packet and Reliable packet where signal packets must elicit an ACK and > Carrier packets SHOULD elicit an ack. > It still sort of suggests that the packet is retransmitted, but then, the > logic as at packet level. > > The name would then be, as @mcmanus suggests: > > time_of_last_sent_reliable_packet > > =E2=80=94 > You are receiving this because you were mentioned. > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > , > or mute the thread > > . > --=20 You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1219#issuecomment-373911201= ----==_mimepart_5aacf34ed44fc_55f02acc04daaed06328df Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'd rather not introduce the word reliable here, since this term is rea= lly
about whether it counts towards bytes_in_flight and therefore whether it
invokes an ack.

Even in a use case where nothing is ever retransmitted, congestion control<= br> and acknowledgement behavior are still relevant.


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> We could define two terms more explicitly elsewhere - for example Sign= al
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> Carrier packets SHOULD elicit an ack.
> It still sort of suggests that the packet is retransmitted, but then, = the
> logic as at packet level.
>
> The name would then be, as @mcmanus <https://github.com/mcmanus>= suggests:
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> time_of_last_sent_reliable_packet
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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -538,9 +539,9 @@ max_ack_delay:
   RTT sample less than min_rtt.
 
 reordering_threshold:
-: The largest delta between the largest acked
-  retransmittable packet and a packet containing retransmittable frames before
-  it's declared lost.
+: The largest packet number gap between the largest acked
+  congestion controlled packet and smaller unacknowledged congestion

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -538,9 +539,9 @@ max_ack_delay:
   RTT sample less than min_rtt.
 
 reordering_threshold:
-: The largest delta between the largest acked
-  retransmittable packet and a packet containing retransmittable frames before
-  it's declared lost.
+: The largest packet number gap between the largest acked
+  congestion controlled packet and smaller unacknowledged congestion
+  controlled packet before it is declared lost.

@ianswett What are your thoughts here? Shouldn't all packets, congestion controlled or not, be capable of being lost and therefore be able to be detected as lost?

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -538,9 +539,9 @@ max_ack_delay:
   RTT sample less than min_rtt.
 
 reordering_threshold:
-: The largest delta between the largest acked
-  retransmittable packet and a packet containing retransmittable frames before
-  it's declared lost.
+: The largest packet number gap between the largest acked
+  congestion controlled packet and smaller unacknowledged congestion
+  controlled packet before it is declared lost.

This is one of the great unsolved mysteries of the universe - is information capable of getting lost.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -538,9 +539,9 @@ max_ack_delay:
   RTT sample less than min_rtt.
 
 reordering_threshold:
-: The largest delta between the largest acked
-  retransmittable packet and a packet containing retransmittable frames before
-  it's declared lost.
+: The largest packet number gap between the largest acked
+  congestion controlled packet and smaller unacknowledged congestion
+  controlled packet before it is declared lost.

In my current implementation, I declare packets lost based only on packet number distance. I believe it's slightly more correct to only count non-ACK packets, but it's also slightly more complex. I don't have any data to show whether it matters in practice or not.

Our implementation saves some info about acks when they're sent, but does not mark them as in_flight.

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----==_mimepart_5aad335dc7193_2e802ae9abde0ed0569088-- From nobody Sat Mar 17 08:28:59 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE3F612895E for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2018 08:28:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.595 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.595 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NnL6MoIhmbwr for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2018 08:28:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2-ext5.iad.github.net [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9D3D4126DCA for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2018 08:28:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 08:28:54 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1521300534; bh=yl49EpnxskYSFgyTbpu3sdAj/jiffxs8T456BnL9KcM=; h=From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=j0eA9sevDugqT5liwlHxV7jHYd1TLJzP4FZl6+7UW8bWtLl7fAJk6GMz3TGNuVJYd ng1+rQ/iAdyEPijkRd3CWbH9gMEC7d+kmnCnzupn/cmrT/dE76J0z2FghY2SU9ClvK 8T/vg0v7RjMEakSKWyJzC6jjawDOUdIAPKQYhQzE= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] No more Retransmittable or Ackable (#1211) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aad3436e7820_2acd2ab89aa96ec4401822"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 15:28:58 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aad3436e7820_2acd2ab89aa96ec4401822 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I seem to be having problems getting any consensus on a replacement for retransmittable, so I'm going to keep it as retransmittable and we can continue to discuss a replacement name. Leading suggestions: 1) Congestion-controlled (as in this PR now) 2) In-flight (because it's included in bytes_in_flight) -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1211#issuecomment-373928669 ----==_mimepart_5aad3436e7820_2acd2ab89aa96ec4401822 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I seem to be having problems getting any consensus on a replacement fo= r retransmittable, so I'm going to keep it as retransmittable and we can = continue to discuss a replacement name.
Leading suggestions:

  1. Congestion-controlled (as in this PR now)
  2. In-flight (because it's included in bytes_in_flight)

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looks good to me. I'm also fine with the use of the word retransmittable

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This is correct, however, you won't send ACK-only packets in a situation where you're pacing packets, right?

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----==_mimepart_5aad3b1d85e23_5c3f2af189992ec44791a-- From nobody Sat Mar 17 09:18:20 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 629C1128D2E for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2018 09:18:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.008 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.008 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HVqaNawDIE4p for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2018 09:18:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o7.sgmail.github.com (o7.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3C6EC126DFF for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2018 09:18:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=YG61ecXqdp5YCcbF2hOCKJ6gW/M=; b=YzwTVKreRW6FX2Q9 1MAVFwAqbvBlMUyDKpOXiPxYotW5DDQXy4QHf3d5znANGeFDXSAinyOcHCUUE0DD oWno2e9oSxc4YpUAjwo7JqfN11xxWFGc3sHOTeKsX07BZ83xoXv0hZXdRDZghw0Z G83yjhLlmuztQ0ux28R4FdzMSSQ= Received: by filter0054p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0054p1las1-29250-5AAD3FC7-22 2018-03-17 16:18:16.077829603 +0000 UTC Received: from smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) by ismtpd0010p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id j8gns5trTcKPCBs9bEWesA for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2018 16:18:15.967 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 16:18:16 +0000 (UTC) From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] don't apply congestion penalty for lost ack-only packets (#1223) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aad3fc7da221_87b53fced7704f28733272"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak0/rzM+Vh/JtLM512Cdh0C3q3Q9UIJp6NU63i zjhtMg7rJGGO/ej6Lw+FyTDQkV9+5wZUhrna9IHyOMLOYmpLmfS6SNjdS14hUEzJfJF1olZJrGUeRu xDaMaHIL8GP/RXlPUt/RyYNUM/gvcJC44MPwkaMhfcEctF3kM2eYjo6l9majqnTFPlZLTxPWXHBvXe c= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 16:18:18 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aad3fc7da221_87b53fced7704f28733272 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fixes #1221. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1223 -- Commit Summary -- * don't apply congestion penalty for lost ack-only packets -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md (16) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1223.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1223.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1223 ----==_mimepart_5aad3fc7da221_87b53fced7704f28733272 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Fixes #1221.

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  • don't apply congestion penalty for lost ack-only packets

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You might occasionally if you think things could be clogging up and that small ack packets has a greater chance of survival.

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Merged #1211.

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If people would like to continue discussing naming, please open a separate issue. I think this PR clarifies the original Issue enough to consider it fixed.

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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

Two comments.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -834,19 +834,19 @@ DetectLostPackets(largest_acked):
   foreach (unacked < largest_acked.packet_number):
     time_since_sent = now() - unacked.time_sent
     delta = largest_acked.packet_number - unacked.packet_number
-    if (time_since_sent > delay_until_lost):
-      lost_packets.insert(unacked)
-    else if (delta > reordering_threshold)
+    if (time_since_sent > delay_until_lost ||
+      delta > reordering_threshold):

I think the convention is to indent the second line of the condition 2 more than the first?

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>        lost_packets.insert(unacked)
+      sent_packets.remove(unacked.packet_number)
+      if (!unacked.is_ack_only):
+        lost_packets.insert(unacked)

You already inserted this packet 3 lines above. Did you mean to remove that line?

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ACK-only packets shouldn't be limited by the pacer, otherwise the max ack delay may be unintentionally exceeded without measuring it.

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@ianswett, remember that you are the editor, and questions of choice of words do not generally require consensus (not that that helps much, of course).

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----==_mimepart_5aada3b47f173_426e2ab6f27feecc310a1-- From nobody Sun Mar 18 00:01:36 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FB791205D3 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2018 00:01:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.606 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.606 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sBhcQKMM1kaO for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2018 00:01:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o3.sgmail.github.com (o3.sgmail.github.com [192.254.112.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BF5AE1201F2 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2018 00:01:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=/GHLFxojVibfw3fjdE2JSIWb9DI=; b=ZYvyHtfLkC4BKTpw bcriT6Fk2nOEUd+mLYLjb5VH0wKhKa8Noobz02kfhzqpDwa5NJawf2nj0KScnSrR zjgDih8i78CPzEV0MVmzXfrIbkZUJG5ciDqAi440ymk2xwmjThX1CuZzpPnwH759 9cZxY611Egsfma77rWCK45wf72k= Received: by filter0572p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0572p1las1-29549-5AAE0ECE-3 2018-03-18 07:01:34.104605476 +0000 UTC Received: from smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) by ismtpd0029p1mdw1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id Blg7onKTSw-xtt6pcnoDTg for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2018 07:01:33.970 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 07:01:34 +0000 (UTC) From: Praveen Balasubramanian Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] confusing Fast Retransmit modes (#1212) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aae0ecdb73cb_197e3f8beea00f2826659d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: pravb X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak2OrvKD4Z50KZhjrwDZGF5NKFB/+y85voFWd2 BveMdw7VoCG9xLXa80x7MqI3n7ID6IAxbxZVo54i0zZVzX+ovkwwTdbLnEfMoLcRthJZsW5WVnxZ3+ AL/nEyKd1nxV2a1OFGaPCjEoiwm1IxNfFBlMSca8taYyfkdJsJlVVSW8EZ7hQicHoSiNPou+fSd97A Woony8PqXP8JHeRVsyFgj+ Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 07:01:36 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aae0ecdb73cb_197e3f8beea00f2826659d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't think these are mutually exclusive modes. With TCP today we do both, if the SACK information suggests lost packets or RACK kicks in and marks packets lost. Time based detection cannot work for low latency connections due to lack of fine grained timers so you always need to augment with packet based detection. IMO an implementation should do both. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1212#issuecomment-373977171 ----==_mimepart_5aae0ecdb73cb_197e3f8beea00f2826659d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I don't think these are mutually exclusive modes. With TCP today we do b= oth, if the SACK information suggests lost packets or RACK kicks in and mar= ks packets lost. Time based detection cannot work for low latency connectio= ns due to lack of fine grained timers so you always need to augment with pa= cket based detection. IMO an implementation should do both.

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Yes this is needed otherwise the alarm duration could be too conservative in some cases.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -834,19 +834,19 @@ DetectLostPackets(largest_acked):
   foreach (unacked < largest_acked.packet_number):
     time_since_sent = now() - unacked.time_sent
     delta = largest_acked.packet_number - unacked.packet_number
-    if (time_since_sent > delay_until_lost):
-      lost_packets.insert(unacked)
-    else if (delta > reordering_threshold)
+    if (time_since_sent > delay_until_lost ||
+      delta > reordering_threshold):

Isn't that what I did?

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>        lost_packets.insert(unacked)
+      sent_packets.remove(unacked.packet_number)
+      if (!unacked.is_ack_only):
+        lost_packets.insert(unacked)

Yes. Fixed.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -834,19 +834,18 @@ DetectLostPackets(largest_acked):
   foreach (unacked < largest_acked.packet_number):
     time_since_sent = now() - unacked.time_sent
     delta = largest_acked.packet_number - unacked.packet_number
-    if (time_since_sent > delay_until_lost):
-      lost_packets.insert(unacked)
-    else if (delta > reordering_threshold)
-      lost_packets.insert(unacked)
+    if (time_since_sent > delay_until_lost ||
+      delta > reordering_threshold):

I think the d needs to line up with the 't' of time_since_sent based on looking at OnPacketAcked.

The current indention is confusing, since the delta > reordering_threshold blends into the code that follows.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -834,19 +834,18 @@ DetectLostPackets(largest_acked):
   foreach (unacked < largest_acked.packet_number):
     time_since_sent = now() - unacked.time_sent
     delta = largest_acked.packet_number - unacked.packet_number
-    if (time_since_sent > delay_until_lost):
-      lost_packets.insert(unacked)
-    else if (delta > reordering_threshold)
-      lost_packets.insert(unacked)
+    if (time_since_sent > delay_until_lost ||
+      delta > reordering_threshold):

Got it. Fixed.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1039,11 +1038,11 @@ Invoked by loss detection from DetectLostPackets when new packets
 are detected lost.
 
 ~~~
-   OnPacketsLost(lost_packets):
+   OnPacketsLost(lost_packet):

Did you accidentally change lost_packets to lost_packet?

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----==_mimepart_5aae35b327c59_4dde2b1a4456aed0185194-- From nobody Sun Mar 18 02:49:34 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EDAA1200FC for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2018 02:49:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.484 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.484 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bdfIP5ajGCfS for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2018 02:49:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o10.sgmail.github.com (o10.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3CFF81200A0 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2018 02:49:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=NHDcdYrrx/DtmDbpU91e1n9f/8Q=; b=kgOd3YuPQco1jWDh Cx7on/T0Wvd9lj9Lt8Bg2Rk/17EgAK9aEnMT+auLjV+Nsy1Ujos5D2AQtSbP20Bf yU7ukeQvCXVJjdq/JMNJbFrxmRkZfGbqbxCDGrg/ghR/q/DwbynscmxjIl23fGhL aGUsZHdayuXvAEqghkM3x/pksms= Received: by filter0534p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0534p1las1-32403-5AAE362B-8 2018-03-18 09:49:31.718621441 +0000 UTC Received: from smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) by ismtpd0005p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id 9BroIna4Rx6r1-esVcADsg for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2018 09:49:31.617 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 09:49:31 +0000 (UTC) From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] inconsistent definition of the TLP duration (#1220) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aae362b8620c_32bc3fd027fb4f282735e9"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak1Rt1H4LKZXBiTupZQRaGO2Crd1HZD38WIuaM 7Bio1A8LVaEZkx6eVOxKcJZl+he8fDs7aKG95V8yOLn+P3GsZ3LQW4y978pxgPCA3Q7PEsBCmaRUWV DJHN4z/zCq//Qt3s7rfkSm+fbpqRPLJ1xuj6QYXMGkqCF8rFNXedcSR5+Qp2gmRrVNiKAJoeiKhYHh 0= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 09:49:33 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aae362b8620c_32bc3fd027fb4f282735e9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Agreed, the psuedocode should be updated to include this. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1220#issuecomment-373985210 ----==_mimepart_5aae362b8620c_32bc3fd027fb4f282735e9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Agreed, the psuedocode should be updated to include this.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1039,11 +1038,11 @@ Invoked by loss detection from DetectLostPackets when new packets
 are detected lost.
 
 ~~~
-   OnPacketsLost(lost_packets):
+   OnPacketsLost(lost_packet):

Yeah, I shouldn't have made any changes there. Fixed it and squashed everything.

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Since draft -08 (commit 473d9e7), the frame type for ACK frames no longer have a special interpretation.

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Fixes #1220.

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Fixes #1212.

Requesting a review from @ianswett, @siyengar, @janaiyengar.

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Additional backup slides for enhancements

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  https://github.com/quicwg/wg-materials/pull/33

Commit Summary

  • add MT's suggestion, Piet's two-bit spin valid
  • more background updates from Piet's presentation
  • Merge branch 'master' into spin-update-2

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@ianswett approved this pull request.

One nit, but looks correct to me.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>      else:
-      // RTO alarm
+      // RTO or TLP alarm
+      // calculate RTO duration

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I like the new text organization at the top describing the modes, but I'm not a fan of the new pseudocode, because it seems more verbose than the old code, and not that much clearer. > @@ -201,6 +201,21 @@ implemented in QUIC. ### Fast Retransmit +Fast retransmit can be run two different modes: packet number based and time run in > @@ -201,6 +201,21 @@ implemented in QUIC. ### Fast Retransmit +Fast retransmit can be run two different modes: packet number based and time +based. + +We derive this default from recommendations for TCP loss recovery {{?RFC5681}} +{{?RFC6675}}. It is possible for networks to exhibit higher degrees of +reordering, causing a sender to detect spurious losses. Making QUIC deal with I would phrase it as "spuriously detect losses." > @@ -201,6 +201,21 @@ implemented in QUIC. ### Fast Retransmit +Fast retransmit can be run two different modes: packet number based and time +based. + +We derive this default from recommendations for TCP loss recovery {{?RFC5681}} +{{?RFC6675}}. It is possible for networks to exhibit higher degrees of +reordering, causing a sender to detect spurious losses. Making QUIC deal with +such networks is important open research, and implementers are encouraged to +explore this space. Detecting spurious losses leads to unnecessary Spuriously detecting losses > @@ -201,6 +201,21 @@ implemented in QUIC. ### Fast Retransmit +Fast retransmit can be run two different modes: packet number based and time +based. + +We derive this default from recommendations for TCP loss recovery {{?RFC5681}} +{{?RFC6675}}. It is possible for networks to exhibit higher degrees of +reordering, causing a sender to detect spurious losses. Making QUIC deal with +such networks is important open research, and implementers are encouraged to +explore this space. Detecting spurious losses leads to unnecessary +retransmissions and may result in degraded performance due to the actions of +the congestion controller upon detecting loss. Implementers MAY use algorithms +developed for TCP, such as TCP-NCR {{?RFC4653}}, to improve QUIC's reordering +resilience, though care should be taken to map TCP specifics to QUIC correctly. I think it's worth commenting that both modes could be run simultaneously, but the psuedocode only describes how to run one at once. > a packet lost. In fraction of an RTT. kUsingTimeLossDetection (default false): -: Whether time based loss detection is in use. If false, uses FACK style +: Whether time-based loss detection is in use. If false, uses FACK style This is called FACK style here, but probably should be called "packet number based loss detection" for consistency? 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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

I like the new text organization at the top describing the modes, but I'm not a fan of the new pseudocode, because it seems more verbose than the old code, and not that much clearer.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -201,6 +201,21 @@ implemented in QUIC.
 
 ### Fast Retransmit
 
+Fast retransmit can be run two different modes: packet number based and time

run in

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -201,6 +201,21 @@ implemented in QUIC.
 
 ### Fast Retransmit
 
+Fast retransmit can be run two different modes: packet number based and time
+based.
+
+We derive this default from recommendations for TCP loss recovery {{?RFC5681}}
+{{?RFC6675}}. It is possible for networks to exhibit higher degrees of
+reordering, causing a sender to detect spurious losses. Making QUIC deal with

I would phrase it as "spuriously detect losses."

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -201,6 +201,21 @@ implemented in QUIC.
 
 ### Fast Retransmit
 
+Fast retransmit can be run two different modes: packet number based and time
+based.
+
+We derive this default from recommendations for TCP loss recovery {{?RFC5681}}
+{{?RFC6675}}. It is possible for networks to exhibit higher degrees of
+reordering, causing a sender to detect spurious losses. Making QUIC deal with
+such networks is important open research, and implementers are encouraged to
+explore this space. Detecting spurious losses leads to unnecessary

Spuriously detecting losses

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -201,6 +201,21 @@ implemented in QUIC.
 
 ### Fast Retransmit
 
+Fast retransmit can be run two different modes: packet number based and time
+based.
+
+We derive this default from recommendations for TCP loss recovery {{?RFC5681}}
+{{?RFC6675}}. It is possible for networks to exhibit higher degrees of
+reordering, causing a sender to detect spurious losses. Making QUIC deal with
+such networks is important open research, and implementers are encouraged to
+explore this space. Detecting spurious losses leads to unnecessary
+retransmissions and may result in degraded performance due to the actions of
+the congestion controller upon detecting loss. Implementers MAY use algorithms
+developed for TCP, such as TCP-NCR {{?RFC4653}}, to improve QUIC's reordering
+resilience, though care should be taken to map TCP specifics to QUIC correctly.

I think it's worth commenting that both modes could be run simultaneously, but the psuedocode only describes how to run one at once.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>    a packet lost.  In fraction of an RTT.
 
 kUsingTimeLossDetection (default false):
-: Whether time based loss detection is in use.  If false, uses FACK style
+: Whether time-based loss detection is in use.  If false, uses FACK style

This is called FACK style here, but probably should be called "packet number based loss detection" for consistency? It may be worth referencing FACK above when describing packet number based loss detection.

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit siyengar commented on this pull request. > @@ -209,20 +224,19 @@ reordering of packets in the network. The RECOMMENDED initial value for kReorderingThreshold is 3. -We derive this default from recommendations for TCP loss recovery {{?RFC5681}} -{{?RFC6675}}. It is possible for networks to exhibit higher degrees of -reordering, causing a sender to detect spurious losses. Detecting spurious -losses leads to unnecessary retransmissions and may result in degraded -performance due to the actions of the congestion controller upon detecting -loss. Implementers MAY use algorithms developed for TCP, such as TCP-NCR -{{?RFC4653}}, to improve QUIC's reordering resilience, though care should be -taken to map TCP specifics to QUIC correctly. Similarly, using time-based loss -detection to deal with reordering, such as in PR-TCP, should be more readily -usable in QUIC. Making QUIC deal with such networks is important open research, -and implementers are encouraged to explore this space. +#### Time-based Fast Retransmit + +Using time-based loss detection to deal with reordering, such as in PR-TCP, maybe add a reference to PR-TCP here? > @@ -846,6 +843,29 @@ DetectLostPackets(largest_acked): else if (loss_time == 0 && delay_until_lost != infinite): loss_time = now() + delay_until_lost - time_since_sent i think this might be cleaner to split this up to the end of the loop. it looks like the intention is to the early retransmit timer to be the loss time of the first packet not lost by packet ordering. It might be cleaner like ``` last_unacked = largest_acked.packet_number foreach (unacked < largest_acked.packet_number): .... last_unacked = unacked if (last_unacked < largest_acked.packet_number) : lost_time = now() + delay_until_lost - sent_packets[last_unacked].time_since_sent ``` and similarly in the other one as well -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1226#pullrequestreview-104795418 ----==_mimepart_5aae5efb58da5_38b82acb6cdb0ecc4886e3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -209,20 +224,19 @@ reordering of packets in the network.
 
 The RECOMMENDED initial value for kReorderingThreshold is 3.
 
-We derive this default from recommendations for TCP loss recovery {{?RFC5681}}
-{{?RFC6675}}. It is possible for networks to exhibit higher degrees of
-reordering, causing a sender to detect spurious losses. Detecting spurious
-losses leads to unnecessary retransmissions and may result in degraded
-performance due to the actions of the congestion controller upon detecting
-loss. Implementers MAY use algorithms developed for TCP, such as TCP-NCR
-{{?RFC4653}}, to improve QUIC's reordering resilience, though care should be
-taken to map TCP specifics to QUIC correctly. Similarly, using time-based loss
-detection to deal with reordering, such as in PR-TCP, should be more readily
-usable in QUIC. Making QUIC deal with such networks is important open research,
-and implementers are encouraged to explore this space.
+#### Time-based Fast Retransmit
+
+Using time-based loss detection to deal with reordering, such as in PR-TCP,

maybe add a reference to PR-TCP here?

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -846,6 +843,29 @@ DetectLostPackets(largest_acked):
     else if (loss_time == 0 && delay_until_lost != infinite):
       loss_time = now() + delay_until_lost - time_since_sent

i think this might be cleaner to split this up to the end of the loop.

it looks like the intention is to the early retransmit timer to be the loss time of the first packet not lost by packet ordering. It might be cleaner like

 last_unacked = largest_acked.packet_number
 foreach (unacked < largest_acked.packet_number):
     ....
     last_unacked = unacked
 if (last_unacked < largest_acked.packet_number) :
    lost_time = now() + delay_until_lost - sent_packets[last_unacked].time_since_sent

and similarly in the other one as well

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QHKDF-Update was specific to PR #1043 (not merged) and included the
Connection ID in the info structure, but the actual merged PR (#1077)
does not use this, nor does it define QHKDF-Update.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1228

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  • tls: use QHKDF-Expand instead of QHKDF-Update

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----==_mimepart_5aae653e83851_7a7b2aac2035cec874506-- From nobody Sun Mar 18 06:14:03 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE745129515 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2018 06:14:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.596 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.596 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bltdjdGcDLEh for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2018 06:14:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2-ext1.iad.github.net [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 55FAB1204DA for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2018 06:14:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 06:13:59 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1521378839; bh=cjc4mTQQ4KqgXibnwi6PMHhIrMm00p1XbAPCg6tlIvo=; h=From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=wfdMYRa4x1Z06OdFMY+4c3l2R1kD5/LssTI+Rlt5LBhRlx7RfQdp8uNjtJqDkDxrw XbC8U6NXANTwuovqgZtwH7Fc8WrUQ0NhU98pcL+hG89haKj1DzdyZEPPQF7Wc2CnkV Taj3Xw292VAg90yD+PYcn52VKMUfh/mB5PFy1lz8= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] MSS and MTU (#592) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aae66177ff1e_190c93faa34f9cf2c4137a8"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 13:14:02 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aae66177ff1e_190c93faa34f9cf2c4137a8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The intent is to use MSS to set a congestion window that is similar to what a TCP connection would use. It also factors into Reno congestion control, since that specifies one packet of CWND increase per round. I think it's important to use a single value throughout, but I don't have any reason to believe the exact number(ie: 1232, 1252, 1460, etc) matters that much. I'd like a suggestion on what to do about this issue, because I'm unclear on what the problem is or what the resolution would be. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/592#issuecomment-373997927 ----==_mimepart_5aae66177ff1e_190c93faa34f9cf2c4137a8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The intent is to use MSS to set a congestion window that is similar to= what a TCP connection would use. It also factors into Reno congestion c= ontrol, since that specifies one packet of CWND increase per round.

I think it's important to use a single value throughout, but I don't h= ave any reason to believe the exact number(ie: 1232, 1252, 1460, etc) mat= ters that much.

I'd like a suggestion on what to do about this issue, because I'm uncl= ear on what the problem is or what the resolution would be.

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  • Rename RetransmitAllHandshakePackets

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This is unrelated to the renaming, but what happens to the bytes_in_flight when retransmitting all handshake data? Do we declare the outstanding handshake packets lost?

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>    a packet lost.  In fraction of an RTT.
 
 kUsingTimeLossDetection (default false):
-: Whether time based loss detection is in use.  If false, uses FACK style
+: Whether time-based loss detection is in use.  If false, uses FACK style

I'm not familiar with FACK. Can you suggest something?

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -209,20 +224,19 @@ reordering of packets in the network.
 
 The RECOMMENDED initial value for kReorderingThreshold is 3.
 
-We derive this default from recommendations for TCP loss recovery {{?RFC5681}}
-{{?RFC6675}}. It is possible for networks to exhibit higher degrees of
-reordering, causing a sender to detect spurious losses. Detecting spurious
-losses leads to unnecessary retransmissions and may result in degraded
-performance due to the actions of the congestion controller upon detecting
-loss. Implementers MAY use algorithms developed for TCP, such as TCP-NCR
-{{?RFC4653}}, to improve QUIC's reordering resilience, though care should be
-taken to map TCP specifics to QUIC correctly. Similarly, using time-based loss
-detection to deal with reordering, such as in PR-TCP, should be more readily
-usable in QUIC. Making QUIC deal with such networks is important open research,
-and implementers are encouraged to explore this space.
+#### Time-based Fast Retransmit
+
+Using time-based loss detection to deal with reordering, such as in PR-TCP,

What exactly would you link here?

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bytes_in_flight increases, but I think you're getting at a point, which is that at some point, all unencrypted packets have to be removed from bytes_in_flight without losing them.

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Merged #1229.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -725,9 +725,9 @@ sent, and then the RTO timer is set.
 
 #### Early Retransmit Alarm
 
-Early retransmit {{?RFC5827}} is implemented with a 1/4 RTT timer. It is
-part of QUIC's time based loss detection, but is always enabled, even when
-only packet reordering loss detection is enabled.
+Early retransmit {{?RFC5827}} is only used when using Fast Retransmit in packet
+number mode. It is implemented with a 1/4 RTT timer. It is part of QUIC's time

this seems a bit confusing, i think we could say something like

``We expect to receive feedback about the sent packet within 1 RTT of the time_since_sent. Early retransmit is implemented by setting a (1 + 1/4) RTT timer since the time the packet is sent. ```

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -846,6 +843,29 @@ DetectLostPackets(largest_acked):
     else if (loss_time == 0 && delay_until_lost != infinite):
       loss_time = now() + delay_until_lost - time_since_sent

sorry i meant first_unacked.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

>  
 As with server push for HTTP/2, the server initiates a server push by sending a
-PUSH_PROMISE frame that includes request header fields attributed to the
-request. The PUSH_PROMISE frame is sent on the client-initiated, bidirectional
-stream that carried the request that generated the push.  This allows the server
-push to be associated with a request.  Ordering of a PUSH_PROMISE in relation to
+PUSH_PROMISE frame (see {{frame-push-promise}}) that includes request headers
+for the promised request.  Promised requests MUST be cacheable (see
+{{!RFC7231}}, Section 4.2.3), MUST be safe (see {{RFC7231}}, Section 4.2.1), and
+MUST NOT include a request body.

Ah, I though part of the point of the original issue was that these requirements weren't in the spec, but just pointed off to RFC7540. I'll replace this with a pointer to the specific section.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -433,28 +433,43 @@ frame.
 
 ## Server Push
 
-HTTP/QUIC supports server push as described in {{!RFC7540}}. During connection
-establishment, the client enables server push by sending a MAX_PUSH_ID frame
-(see {{frame-max-push-id}}).  A server cannot use server push until it receives
-a MAX_PUSH_ID frame.
+HTTP/QUIC supports server push in a similar manner to {{!RFC7540}}, but uses
+different mechanisms. During connection establishment, the client enables server
+push by sending a MAX_PUSH_ID frame (see {{frame-max-push-id}}). A server cannot
+use server push until it receives a MAX_PUSH_ID frame.

By that logic, we shouldn't have transport parameters for max stream ID either -- just send MAX_STREAM_ID frames in your first packet. But that would prevent servers from using 0.5-RTT data, since they haven't received authenticated packets from the client yet.

HTTP has no such restriction, since all data is inside the crypto. We can just use the frames.

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However, if the server's key is compromised, Stateless Reset can be forged wholesale off-path. Stateless Reset must contain a proof that the sender observed the original packet that caused Stateless Reset. Clearly, there are many simple ways to do so. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1230 ----==_mimepart_5aaeb3f8188fd_5d473feb202e8f387973e9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Stateless Reset has contains a proof that the Server sent it. However, if the server's key is compromised, Stateless Reset can be forged wholesale off-path. Stateless Reset must contain a proof that the sender observed the original packet that caused Stateless Reset. Clearly, there are many simple ways to do so.

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Handshake is powerless against an attacker that can observe a path and, while it cannot interfere with the path, it can deliver a packet back the the sender in less than 1-rtt. 2. It is important to detect path and endpoint problems very quickly at connection establishment, if the sender has alternatives to try (other IPs from DNS, or other protocols, or lower the MTU). **Tools** - _Ignore_. Ignore the signal. - _Accept_. Accept the signal (and act accordingly right away), as long as it is not obviously bogus (you already received a valid ACK for the packet subject to the ICMP error, for example). - _Validate_. Start an immediate path validation with a short timeout, unless the packet is obviously bogus (see above). **ICMP Types** - With "on-path proof". These are ICMP packets that contain a large portion of the packet that triggered them. They prove that the packet came from an on-path box. These are ICMPv6 error packets and ICMP [https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc4884/](RFC 4884) error packets. - Without "on-path proof". These are ICMP error packets that only contain 8 octets of the original packet past the original IP header. Per Section "8.4.1. Special Considerations for PMTU Discovery" of the Transport draft, the recommendation for adding as much entropy to the IP layer as possible (IP ID, DF flag, etc) should be applied. **Recommendations** 1. Dealing with ICMP "unreachable" (path or port) or "too big" during handshake. For ICMP with "on-path proof", Accept. For ICMP w/o "on-path proof", Accept if can fail over to a different IP (that was not yet tried for this request); otherwise retry one more time. 2. Dealing with ICMP "unreachable" (path or port) not during handshake. Validate. 3. Dealing with ICMP "too big" not during handshake. Accept if it is not requesting an MTU lower than X, where X is relatively low" for ICMP with "on-path proof" and is relatively high for ICMP without "on-path proof". If the requested MTU is lower than X, Validate (via PMTUD techniques). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/377#issuecomment-374037306 ----==_mimepart_5aaebf5c8540b_1af593fa7e9740f3815305d4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Assumptions

  1. Handshake is powerless against an attacker that can observe a path and= , while it cannot interfere with the path, it can deliver a packet back t= he the sender in less than 1-rtt.

  2. It is important to detect path and endpoint problems very quickly at c= onnection establishment, if the sender has alternatives to try (other IPs= from DNS, or other protocols, or lower the MTU).

Tools

  • Ignore. Ignore the signal.

  • Accept. Accept the signal (and act accordingly right away), a= s long as it is not obviously bogus (you already received a valid ACK for= the packet subject to the ICMP error, for example).

  • Validate. Start an immediate path validation with a short tim= eout, unless the packet is obviously bogus (see above).

ICMP Types

  • With "on-path proof". These are ICMP packets that contain a large por= tion of the packet that triggered them. They prove that the packet came = from an on-path box. These are ICMPv6 error packets and ICMP [https://da= tatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc4884/](RFC 4884) error packets.

  • Without "on-path proof". These are ICMP error packets that only conta= in 8 octets of the original packet past the original IP header. Per Sect= ion "8.4.1. Special Considerations for PMTU Discovery" of the Transport d= raft, the recommendation for adding as much entropy to the IP layer as po= ssible (IP ID, DF flag, etc) should be applied.

Recommendations

  1. Dealing with ICMP "unreachable" (path or port) or "too big" during han= dshake. For ICMP with "on-path proof", Accept. For ICMP w/o "on-path pr= oof", Accept if can fail over to a different IP (that was not yet tried f= or this request); otherwise retry one more time.

  2. Dealing with ICMP "unreachable" (path or port) not during handshake. = Validate.

  3. Dealing with ICMP "too big" not during handshake. Accept if it is not= requesting an MTU lower than X, where X is relatively low" for ICMP with= "on-path proof" and is relatively high for ICMP without "on-path proof".= If the requested MTU is lower than X, Validate (via PMTUD techniques).<= /p>

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Thanks for writing this up.

I think it would be useful with text on gateways that drop ICMP - ELB = is/was reported to do this, and considerations for ICMP amplification att= acks.

On the defenseless handshake - is there a way we could improve on this= using public crypto - possible in a variant or future version? Client au= th is delivered late in TLS - probably to have a secure line, faster cryp= to, and to add some privacy - though I'm not into the details yet. X25519= could possibly provide a fast early client auth handshake which could mi= tigate on path attacks - I'm far from sure - speculating.

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As written, this would forbid the case where A sends a single stream
frame and then B responds with three stream frames and piggybacks
ACKs along with each. That seems silly and a lot of work. Rather,
this should just be about ACK-only frames.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1231

Commit Summary

  • As written, this would forbid the case where A sends a single stream

File Changes

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"A receiver that is only sending ACK frames will not receive acknowledgments for
its packets. Sending an occasional MAX_DATA or MAX_STREAM_DATA frame as data is
received will ensure that acknowledgements are generated by a peer. Otherwise,
an endpoint MAY send a PING frame once per RTT to solicit an acknowledgment."

But this isn't true if the counterparty piggybacks ACKs in its packets that contain STREAM data (which is at least what I do!), and why I filed #1231. Is this really the behavior we want?

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----==_mimepart_5aaee049c0bf8_2bde3fa2e74b0f2c1497a2-- From nobody Sun Mar 18 16:00:15 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 968F212D869 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2018 16:00:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9-Y9Gdvv2mvi for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2018 16:00:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o11.sgmail.github.com (o11.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BD3E12D810 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2018 16:00:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=M/v77DnEQjWh6TmRw7/B0SATz64=; b=WnHPZUWYAcUhX0S7 zOv9KPJ8lmFUE5MVfjPFKd0SCuzEba3jXs89oHYfZXOY8oHOaY53a9eVk+qeH49k ymWMOI2JmNDpSOiRN/Hn2PrDfyvTdpt5oBo7k2gXuKTiqgXJ/AHYLbEbV90McVE7 fSa9a7+gTeKdJZzlpHpz7YJFx7Q= Received: by filter0215p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0215p1iad2-4291-5AAEEF79-2 2018-03-18 23:00:09.140092404 +0000 UTC Received: from smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) by ismtpd0008p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id eEaHJaXES6Wiypuu5Q8IBQ for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2018 23:00:09.099 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 23:00:09 +0000 (UTC) From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] ACKs for receiver-only (#1232) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aaeef7981d8_68703f9d3beaaf3483511"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak3sqgMBdTfAN3Y3Dtx2aFb8qXGcv6sw1ixbvF tjd8BRFoaKzGrl4dRUASjrHffLNsbK+wafnkNml9f+ErRXIVS5mIcj1ovpA0esodkh0wWtRjywMGPB TdzKQlmIOY7vmOhzAPSrKQaEq7ea6+sUmPk/S0GDc5jE2zS6TaE80Irq7q0i/fxtEZCDb6I0lbieKg I= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 23:00:12 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aaeef7981d8_68703f9d3beaaf3483511 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @ekr, I don't understand why you say this isn't true. The issue here is that if an endpoint sends nothing but ACKs, there is no guarantee its peer will acknowledge those packets. The peer may have other data to send back, and may choose to include ACK frames in those packets, if there is room, but if the peer has enough constant stream data to send back and (for some reason) prioritizes the STREAM frames higher than ACK frames, it might not end up acknowledging the endpoint's ACK frames in a timely manner. All that being said, personally I think ACK frames should have the highest priority when framing a packet to send out. So if you ever have something to send out (other than the ACKs) then the ACKs should end up getting sent too. But all this seems like an implementation issue to me. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1232#issuecomment-374062655 ----==_mimepart_5aaeef7981d8_68703f9d3beaaf3483511 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@ekr, I do= n't understand why you say this isn't true. The issue here is that if an en= dpoint sends nothing but ACKs, there is no guarantee its peer will acknowle= dge those packets. The peer may have other data to send back, and may choos= e to include ACK frames in those packets, if there is room, but if the peer= has enough constant stream data to send back and (for some reason) priorit= izes the STREAM frames higher than ACK frames, it might not end up acknowle= dging the endpoint's ACK frames in a timely manner.

All that being said, personally I think ACK frames should have the highe= st priority when framing a packet to send out. So if you ever have somethin= g to send out (other than the ACKs) then the ACKs should end up getting sen= t too. But all this seems like an implementation issue to me.

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After the recent header changes, there's no need for a Retry packet type any more. The server could send its HRR in a normal Handshake packet.

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ya i agree with this. The TLS stack on the client already knows whethe= r it is a stateful or a stateless retry, and can act accordingly. Seriali= zing the information the client already knows into a frame type is redund= ant and error prone.

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It depends - the frame type may help to decide between different CID's which helps lookup and reduce conflicts - but I'm not sure it is an issue in this direction.

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----==_mimepart_5aaef64b38077_43d2b2167e52ec416709a-- From nobody Sun Mar 18 17:10:42 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB5B5126BFD for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2018 17:10:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WXBBSc0cqTcw for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2018 17:10:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2-ext4.iad.github.net [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C743A129C70 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2018 17:10:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 17:10:37 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1521418237; bh=c/v8Reg4oOjbyCi4UiJG0xnXGut8dpEajmKTAoxuRfc=; h=From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=U+vWyMaVegQFDoL5MLicjYyXBuxrbRHKyhAC4uWWrs8WXBaF4zmguwH59oOIV5A7Y Gcz15yop+c9Q25yVMHaxoZWbjd8oOkfJC2J97Pu0gRqvDMYjEVx40ixs3wBXVMRh1K W36Jy7AwSaTkfpzqXc9l4Ti4ah6fRv6/fTKzvcxw= From: Igor Lubashev Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] ICMP and ICMPv6 (Type: DestinationUnreachable) (#377) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aaefffde928a_719a2afe31a28ec4434079"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: igorlord X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 00:10:41 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aaefffde928a_719a2afe31a28ec4434079 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, it is an interesting discussion for what to do in case of blocked ICMP signals. It would be a complimentary problem to the one discussed here (what to do in case an ICMP signal is received). _defenseless handshake_. I am not a cryptographer, so I am happy to listen to the experts on what crypto could provide for faster auth. However, I do want to note that a single packet is typically all the attacker needs. It is very easy to forge a version negotiation packet, for example, and prevent a successful handshake. I would prefer not to try to beef up version negotiation at this point, though, and see if we could get a design based on @ekr's proposal for version negotiation (Client Sends all supported versions in CI; Server picks a version and replies using that version). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/377#issuecomment-374069486 ----==_mimepart_5aaefffde928a_719a2afe31a28ec4434079 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yes, it is an interesting discussion for what to do in case of blocked= ICMP signals. It would be a complimentary problem to the one discussed = here (what to do in case an ICMP signal is received).

defenseless handshake. I am not a cryptographer, so I am happ= y to listen to the experts on what crypto could provide for faster auth. = However, I do want to note that a single packet is typically all the att= acker needs. It is very easy to forge a version negotiation packet, for = example, and prevent a successful handshake. I would prefer not to try t= o beef up version negotiation at this point, though, and see if we could = get a design based on @ekr's proposal for version negotiation (Client Sends all supp= orted versions in CI; Server picks a version and replies using that versi= on).

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I can't come up with a clear reason for them. The crypto handshake is= going to have to indicate that the reset is stateful or stateless, and t= he transport is going to have to respond accordingly, so I haven't been a= ble to determine what value the extra packet type provides.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2538,10 +2538,10 @@ ACK Block (repeated):
 Implementations MUST NOT generate packets that only contain ACK frames in
 response to packets which only contain ACK frames. However, they MUST
 acknowledge packets containing only ACK frames when sending ACK frames in
-response to other packets.  Implementations MUST NOT send more than one ACK
-frame per received packet that contains frames other than ACK frames.  Packets
-containing non-ACK frames MUST be acknowledged immediately or when a delayed
-ack timer expires.
+response to other packets.  Implementations MUST NOT send more than one packet
+containing only ACK frames per received packet that contains frames other than

I have no objection, but is the motivation for this the coming CRYPTO_ACK/ACK split?

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Could you please do a PR that also has a PDF version?

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@ekr commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2538,10 +2538,10 @@ ACK Block (repeated):
 Implementations MUST NOT generate packets that only contain ACK frames in
 response to packets which only contain ACK frames. However, they MUST
 acknowledge packets containing only ACK frames when sending ACK frames in
-response to other packets.  Implementations MUST NOT send more than one ACK
-frame per received packet that contains frames other than ACK frames.  Packets
-containing non-ACK frames MUST be acknowledged immediately or when a delayed
-ack timer expires.
+response to other packets.  Implementations MUST NOT send more than one packet
+containing only ACK frames per received packet that contains frames other than

No. It was purely that the text didn't match my expectations

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Sorry, what's not true is the claim that you "will not". I agree you "may not". The distinction here is only relevant because of PR#1231, in which case you really would not.

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@siyengar: How does the client know whether it's a stateful or stateless retry? They look the same in TLS. It's just an HRR. It's only the server that knows

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Oh, I see you're going to claim it has a cookie or it doesn't. But that's not actually the same thing, because you might be using the cookie just to require a proof of reachability as an anti-crypto DoS mitigation

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I updated #1231 to rewrite this graph in a less normative sense.

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----==_mimepart_5aaf865f223de_6bcb3fb6c4b80f2816268e-- From nobody Mon Mar 19 02:45:55 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88DA9126DFB for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 02:45:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.605 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.605 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RstossrRDv87 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 02:45:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o7.sgmail.github.com (o7.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 62A971243F6 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 02:45:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=AP5jMLQSomuuMTLGWa8UJl2Vj40=; b=ipN8TRTTTaBxef1c +2yCd42pXmttCby8M/7OYhNiPMrf15Kg1vjEJwozWEPxvjB+2fFZP9INh2JpWpLx Q/rASzH9adWt7RXM8MtWxPEkiZNr+oSLALJ7j4v6q+2dCKfqndaH2XtZO6Amw84o tMqfh8aB10wBhkues9qNQn90p0c= Received: by filter0286p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0286p1las1-6642-5AAF86D0-1B 2018-03-19 09:45:52.858993755 +0000 UTC Received: from smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) by ismtpd0006p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id ZqTfmX3MTvi4nI1YtbNbsg for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 09:45:52.593 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 09:45:52 +0000 (UTC) From: Subodh Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Do we still need Retry packets? (#1233) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aaf86d0a3673_5bea3fde1b5f2f383249b0"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: siyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak33inZRehjppmL6NsRiLJ1ICSlHgeRURIZInw Qcx8zcOvx574AHJ01cBXdYoILBTqgMy6CvLrqPmxF29tX5ehT1xcK+kLzoAUe2dhkZaYfkA3VdNuJX hHvXChSdfh39H6Kv0MespSg2cjxkfE3I3roeMRu55U1AzaxD8CY65ETRAUeUyaPypEwEGI3gxIJUOs A= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 09:45:54 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aaf86d0a3673_5bea3fde1b5f2f383249b0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @ekr I think the client shouldn't know what the difference is between those two cases and should react the same way. For the clients it's a stateless reset either way. My thought here is that the TLS layer provides an API to say whether or not the message that was received was a stateless reset. Generally I'm leaning towards the principle that if an endpoint can know about something via an API, we shouldn't need to signal that in a framing layer. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1233#issuecomment-374154641 ----==_mimepart_5aaf86d0a3673_5bea3fde1b5f2f383249b0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@ekr I thi= nk the client shouldn't know what the difference is between those two cases= and should react the same way. For the clients it's a stateless reset eith= er way. My thought here is that the TLS layer provides an API to say wheth= er or not the message that was received was a stateless reset.

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I'm not sure I really I understand the problem you're trying to solve. If you really want to send duplicate ACK frames (without receiving any new packets, and without any timer expiring), the change of the first sentence in your PR would be sufficient. > To limit ACK blocks to those that have not yet been received by the sender, the receiver SHOULD track which ACK frames have been acknowledged by its peer. Once an ACK frame has been acknowledged, the packets it acknowledges SHOULD NOT be acknowledged again. -A receiver that is only sending ACK frames will not receive acknowledgments for -its packets. Sending an occasional MAX_DATA or MAX_STREAM_DATA frame as data is -received will ensure that acknowledgements are generated by a peer. Otherwise, -an endpoint MAY send a PING frame once per RTT to solicit an acknowledgment. +Because ACK-only packets are not acknowledged, a receiver that is only +sending ACK frames will only receive acknowledgements for its packets +if the sender piggybacks them on other packets. In order to enable Why does it play a role how the sender bundles frames into packets? > To limit ACK blocks to those that have not yet been received by the sender, the receiver SHOULD track which ACK frames have been acknowledged by its peer. Once an ACK frame has been acknowledged, the packets it acknowledges SHOULD NOT be acknowledged again. -A receiver that is only sending ACK frames will not receive acknowledgments for -its packets. Sending an occasional MAX_DATA or MAX_STREAM_DATA frame as data is -received will ensure that acknowledgements are generated by a peer. Otherwise, -an endpoint MAY send a PING frame once per RTT to solicit an acknowledgment. +Because ACK-only packets are not acknowledged, a receiver that is only +sending ACK frames will only receive acknowledgements for its packets +if the sender piggybacks them on other packets. In order to enable +this, senders SHOULD prioritize sending ACKs along with their data. I don't think you should prioritize ACKs, if the ACKs don't ack any new retransmittable packets. > To limit ACK blocks to those that have not yet been received by the sender, the receiver SHOULD track which ACK frames have been acknowledged by its peer. Once an ACK frame has been acknowledged, the packets it acknowledges SHOULD NOT be acknowledged again. -A receiver that is only sending ACK frames will not receive acknowledgments for -its packets. Sending an occasional MAX_DATA or MAX_STREAM_DATA frame as data is -received will ensure that acknowledgements are generated by a peer. Otherwise, -an endpoint MAY send a PING frame once per RTT to solicit an acknowledgment. +Because ACK-only packets are not acknowledged, a receiver that is only +sending ACK frames will only receive acknowledgements for its packets +if the sender piggybacks them on other packets. In order to enable +this, senders SHOULD prioritize sending ACKs along with their data. +In addition, if a receiver regularly issues additional flow control +credit rather than just issuing infinite flow control credit at the Issuing infinite flow control credit is a really bad idea. I don't think we should mention this as an option here. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1231#pullrequestreview-104894712 ----==_mimepart_5aaf8a76a9f59_3bcc2aedd3b1aecc2230e9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@marten-seemann commented on this pull request.

I'm not sure I really I understand the problem you're trying to solve.
If you really want to send duplicate ACK frames (without receiving any new packets, and without any timer expiring), the change of the first sentence in your PR would be sufficient.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 To limit ACK blocks to those that have not yet been received by the sender, the
 receiver SHOULD track which ACK frames have been acknowledged by its peer.  Once
 an ACK frame has been acknowledged, the packets it acknowledges SHOULD NOT be
 acknowledged again.
 
-A receiver that is only sending ACK frames will not receive acknowledgments for
-its packets.  Sending an occasional MAX_DATA or MAX_STREAM_DATA frame as data is
-received will ensure that acknowledgements are generated by a peer.  Otherwise,
-an endpoint MAY send a PING frame once per RTT to solicit an acknowledgment.
+Because ACK-only packets are not acknowledged, a receiver that is only
+sending ACK frames will only receive acknowledgements for its packets
+if the sender piggybacks them on other packets. In order to enable

Why does it play a role how the sender bundles frames into packets?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 To limit ACK blocks to those that have not yet been received by the sender, the
 receiver SHOULD track which ACK frames have been acknowledged by its peer.  Once
 an ACK frame has been acknowledged, the packets it acknowledges SHOULD NOT be
 acknowledged again.
 
-A receiver that is only sending ACK frames will not receive acknowledgments for
-its packets.  Sending an occasional MAX_DATA or MAX_STREAM_DATA frame as data is
-received will ensure that acknowledgements are generated by a peer.  Otherwise,
-an endpoint MAY send a PING frame once per RTT to solicit an acknowledgment.
+Because ACK-only packets are not acknowledged, a receiver that is only
+sending ACK frames will only receive acknowledgements for its packets
+if the sender piggybacks them on other packets. In order to enable
+this, senders SHOULD prioritize sending ACKs along with their data.

I don't think you should prioritize ACKs, if the ACKs don't ack any new retransmittable packets.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 To limit ACK blocks to those that have not yet been received by the sender, the
 receiver SHOULD track which ACK frames have been acknowledged by its peer.  Once
 an ACK frame has been acknowledged, the packets it acknowledges SHOULD NOT be
 acknowledged again.
 
-A receiver that is only sending ACK frames will not receive acknowledgments for
-its packets.  Sending an occasional MAX_DATA or MAX_STREAM_DATA frame as data is
-received will ensure that acknowledgements are generated by a peer.  Otherwise,
-an endpoint MAY send a PING frame once per RTT to solicit an acknowledgment.
+Because ACK-only packets are not acknowledged, a receiver that is only
+sending ACK frames will only receive acknowledgements for its packets
+if the sender piggybacks them on other packets. In order to enable
+this, senders SHOULD prioritize sending ACKs along with their data.
+In addition, if a receiver regularly issues additional flow control
+credit rather than just issuing infinite flow control credit at the

Issuing infinite flow control credit is a really bad idea. I don't think we should mention this as an option here.

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Once an ACK frame has been acknowledged, the packets it acknowledges SHOULD NOT be acknowledged again. -A receiver that is only sending ACK frames will not receive acknowledgments for -its packets. Sending an occasional MAX_DATA or MAX_STREAM_DATA frame as data is -received will ensure that acknowledgements are generated by a peer. Otherwise, -an endpoint MAY send a PING frame once per RTT to solicit an acknowledgment. +Because ACK-only packets are not acknowledged, a receiver that is only +sending ACK frames will only receive acknowledgements for its packets +if the sender piggybacks them on other packets. In order to enable +this, senders SHOULD prioritize sending ACKs along with their data. I think prioritize is a loaded word, maybe "senders SHOULD bundle ACKs with non-ACK frames when possible." -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 To limit ACK blocks to those that have not yet been received by the sender, the
 receiver SHOULD track which ACK frames have been acknowledged by its peer.  Once
 an ACK frame has been acknowledged, the packets it acknowledges SHOULD NOT be
 acknowledged again.
 
-A receiver that is only sending ACK frames will not receive acknowledgments for
-its packets.  Sending an occasional MAX_DATA or MAX_STREAM_DATA frame as data is
-received will ensure that acknowledgements are generated by a peer.  Otherwise,
-an endpoint MAY send a PING frame once per RTT to solicit an acknowledgment.
+Because ACK-only packets are not acknowledged, a receiver that is only
+sending ACK frames will only receive acknowledgements for its packets
+if the sender piggybacks them on other packets. In order to enable
+this, senders SHOULD prioritize sending ACKs along with their data.

I think prioritize is a loaded word, maybe "senders SHOULD bundle ACKs with non-ACK frames when possible."

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----==_mimepart_5aaf958a98ded_f432b0bfb3c6ec86001b2-- From nobody Mon Mar 19 03:57:20 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6493B126E64 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 03:57:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qhUaJWnHH9ud for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 03:57:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA871126DEE for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 03:57:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 03:57:14 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1521457034; bh=7cfIr1ZOveBdzkAlH4RHwPRwC6WBj6DhhQHpgnEAk6I=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=PS/OF+8b/bqoI+JXgqUz//g4gCTNGYf3FeCfycE7RW4smZUw7bYyTBvHoInolo7Ai PeJTcZ7ohSjPq8oa8M4rcvASEgN7q8bmV7uiBTBmrndvC5cbXIV6XDXXyBgsWbllxQ flhhmyDXyNr4An6dMyJlWSNkyTXgNdKS/nZ+zebk= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Restrict ACK-clocking to ACK-only frames. (#1231) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aaf978ab0e5a_63782abb30914ec8571620"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 10:57:17 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aaf978ab0e5a_63782abb30914ec8571620 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ianswett commented on this pull request. > To limit ACK blocks to those that have not yet been received by the sender, the receiver SHOULD track which ACK frames have been acknowledged by its peer. Once an ACK frame has been acknowledged, the packets it acknowledges SHOULD NOT be acknowledged again. -A receiver that is only sending ACK frames will not receive acknowledgments for -its packets. Sending an occasional MAX_DATA or MAX_STREAM_DATA frame as data is -received will ensure that acknowledgements are generated by a peer. Otherwise, -an endpoint MAY send a PING frame once per RTT to solicit an acknowledgment. +Because ACK-only packets are not acknowledged, a receiver that is only ACK-only packets are acknowledged, but they do not cause an ACK frame to be sent. Maybe: ""Because ACK frames are not sent in response to ACK-only packets, ..." > To limit ACK blocks to those that have not yet been received by the sender, the receiver SHOULD track which ACK frames have been acknowledged by its peer. Once an ACK frame has been acknowledged, the packets it acknowledges SHOULD NOT be acknowledged again. -A receiver that is only sending ACK frames will not receive acknowledgments for -its packets. Sending an occasional MAX_DATA or MAX_STREAM_DATA frame as data is -received will ensure that acknowledgements are generated by a peer. Otherwise, -an endpoint MAY send a PING frame once per RTT to solicit an acknowledgment. +Because ACK-only packets are not acknowledged, a receiver that is only +sending ACK frames will only receive acknowledgements for its packets +if the sender piggybacks them on other packets. In order to enable +this, senders SHOULD prioritize sending ACKs along with their data. +In addition, if a receiver regularly issues additional flow control +credit rather than just issuing infinite flow control credit at the I would remove this sentence. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1231#pullrequestreview-104912166 ----==_mimepart_5aaf978ab0e5a_63782abb30914ec8571620 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 To limit ACK blocks to those that have not yet been received by the sender, the
 receiver SHOULD track which ACK frames have been acknowledged by its peer.  Once
 an ACK frame has been acknowledged, the packets it acknowledges SHOULD NOT be
 acknowledged again.
 
-A receiver that is only sending ACK frames will not receive acknowledgments for
-its packets.  Sending an occasional MAX_DATA or MAX_STREAM_DATA frame as data is
-received will ensure that acknowledgements are generated by a peer.  Otherwise,
-an endpoint MAY send a PING frame once per RTT to solicit an acknowledgment.
+Because ACK-only packets are not acknowledged, a receiver that is only

ACK-only packets are acknowledged, but they do not cause an ACK frame to be sent.

Maybe: ""Because ACK frames are not sent in response to ACK-only packets, ..."

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 To limit ACK blocks to those that have not yet been received by the sender, the
 receiver SHOULD track which ACK frames have been acknowledged by its peer.  Once
 an ACK frame has been acknowledged, the packets it acknowledges SHOULD NOT be
 acknowledged again.
 
-A receiver that is only sending ACK frames will not receive acknowledgments for
-its packets.  Sending an occasional MAX_DATA or MAX_STREAM_DATA frame as data is
-received will ensure that acknowledgements are generated by a peer.  Otherwise,
-an endpoint MAY send a PING frame once per RTT to solicit an acknowledgment.
+Because ACK-only packets are not acknowledged, a receiver that is only
+sending ACK frames will only receive acknowledgements for its packets
+if the sender piggybacks them on other packets. In order to enable
+this, senders SHOULD prioritize sending ACKs along with their data.
+In addition, if a receiver regularly issues additional flow control
+credit rather than just issuing infinite flow control credit at the

I would remove this sentence.

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Once an ACK frame has been acknowledged, the packets it acknowledges SHOULD NOT be acknowledged again. -A receiver that is only sending ACK frames will not receive acknowledgments for -its packets. Sending an occasional MAX_DATA or MAX_STREAM_DATA frame as data is -received will ensure that acknowledgements are generated by a peer. Otherwise, -an endpoint MAY send a PING frame once per RTT to solicit an acknowledgment. +Because ACK-only packets are not acknowledged, a receiver that is only +sending ACK frames will only receive acknowledgements for its packets +if the sender piggybacks them on other packets. In order to enable Consider the case where the receiver issued 1MB of flow credit and the sender sends 950K of data. In this case the receiver might just send ACK-only packets which the sender is forbidden to send its own ACK-only packets. Thus, if the sender never bundles ACKs, the receiver will never get any. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@ekr commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 To limit ACK blocks to those that have not yet been received by the sender, the
 receiver SHOULD track which ACK frames have been acknowledged by its peer.  Once
 an ACK frame has been acknowledged, the packets it acknowledges SHOULD NOT be
 acknowledged again.
 
-A receiver that is only sending ACK frames will not receive acknowledgments for
-its packets.  Sending an occasional MAX_DATA or MAX_STREAM_DATA frame as data is
-received will ensure that acknowledgements are generated by a peer.  Otherwise,
-an endpoint MAY send a PING frame once per RTT to solicit an acknowledgment.
+Because ACK-only packets are not acknowledged, a receiver that is only
+sending ACK frames will only receive acknowledgements for its packets
+if the sender piggybacks them on other packets. In order to enable

Consider the case where the receiver issued 1MB of flow credit and the sender sends 950K of data. In this case the receiver might just send ACK-only packets which the sender is forbidden to send its own ACK-only packets. Thus, if the sender never bundles ACKs, the receiver will never get any.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 To limit ACK blocks to those that have not yet been received by the sender, the
 receiver SHOULD track which ACK frames have been acknowledged by its peer.  Once
 an ACK frame has been acknowledged, the packets it acknowledges SHOULD NOT be
 acknowledged again.
 
-A receiver that is only sending ACK frames will not receive acknowledgments for
-its packets.  Sending an occasional MAX_DATA or MAX_STREAM_DATA frame as data is
-received will ensure that acknowledgements are generated by a peer.  Otherwise,
-an endpoint MAY send a PING frame once per RTT to solicit an acknowledgment.
+Because ACK-only packets are not acknowledged, a receiver that is only
+sending ACK frames will only receive acknowledgements for its packets
+if the sender piggybacks them on other packets. In order to enable

Where is the problem? You don't expect to get any ACK for ACK-only packets, they don't count towards bytes-in-flight, they are never retransmitted.

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@ekr commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 To limit ACK blocks to those that have not yet been received by the sender, the
 receiver SHOULD track which ACK frames have been acknowledged by its peer.  Once
 an ACK frame has been acknowledged, the packets it acknowledges SHOULD NOT be
 acknowledged again.
 
-A receiver that is only sending ACK frames will not receive acknowledgments for
-its packets.  Sending an occasional MAX_DATA or MAX_STREAM_DATA frame as data is
-received will ensure that acknowledgements are generated by a peer.  Otherwise,
-an endpoint MAY send a PING frame once per RTT to solicit an acknowledgment.
+Because ACK-only packets are not acknowledged, a receiver that is only
+sending ACK frames will only receive acknowledgements for its packets
+if the sender piggybacks them on other packets. In order to enable

Well, the text I am updating assumes it is a problem, I'm just fixing it up.

With that said, while the packets don't count towards bytes-in-flight, you generally end up storing the data about the to-be-ACKed packets (as implied by the following text):

receiver SHOULD track which ACK frames have been acknowledged by its peer.  Once
an ACK frame has been acknowledged, the packets it acknowledges SHOULD NOT be
acknowledged again.```

Thus, you can't garbage collect this state until those ACKs are ACKed.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 To limit ACK blocks to those that have not yet been received by the sender, the
 receiver SHOULD track which ACK frames have been acknowledged by its peer.  Once
 an ACK frame has been acknowledged, the packets it acknowledges SHOULD NOT be
 acknowledged again.
 
-A receiver that is only sending ACK frames will not receive acknowledgments for
-its packets.  Sending an occasional MAX_DATA or MAX_STREAM_DATA frame as data is
-received will ensure that acknowledgements are generated by a peer.  Otherwise,
-an endpoint MAY send a PING frame once per RTT to solicit an acknowledgment.
+Because ACK-only packets are not acknowledged, a receiver that is only
+sending ACK frames will only receive acknowledgements for its packets
+if the sender piggybacks them on other packets. In order to enable

I think that is an unfortunate requirement (SHOULD NOT be ack'ed again):
You want to ack packets again because you collapse gaps into larger blocks. Only the oldest ACK'ed block should not be acked again.

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GitHub ate my homework, but let me take another look... > To limit ACK blocks to those that have not yet been received by the sender, the receiver SHOULD track which ACK frames have been acknowledged by its peer. Once an ACK frame has been acknowledged, the packets it acknowledges SHOULD NOT be acknowledged again. -A receiver that is only sending ACK frames will not receive acknowledgments for -its packets. Sending an occasional MAX_DATA or MAX_STREAM_DATA frame as data is -received will ensure that acknowledgements are generated by a peer. Otherwise, -an endpoint MAY send a PING frame once per RTT to solicit an acknowledgment. +Because ACK-only packets are not acknowledged, a receiver that is only +sending ACK frames will only receive acknowledgements for its packets +if the sender piggybacks them on other packets. In order to enable +this, senders SHOULD prioritize sending ACKs along with their data. I agree with this. The point of changing this text is to make it clear what the consequences of particular design choices are. I would remove this sentence (starting with "In order to enable"). > To limit ACK blocks to those that have not yet been received by the sender, the receiver SHOULD track which ACK frames have been acknowledged by its peer. Once an ACK frame has been acknowledged, the packets it acknowledges SHOULD NOT be acknowledged again. -A receiver that is only sending ACK frames will not receive acknowledgments for -its packets. Sending an occasional MAX_DATA or MAX_STREAM_DATA frame as data is -received will ensure that acknowledgements are generated by a peer. Otherwise, -an endpoint MAY send a PING frame once per RTT to solicit an acknowledgment. +Because ACK-only packets are not acknowledged, a receiver that is only +sending ACK frames will only receive acknowledgements for its packets +if the sender piggybacks them on other packets. In order to enable +this, senders SHOULD prioritize sending ACKs along with their data. +In addition, if a receiver regularly issues additional flow control +credit rather than just issuing infinite flow control credit at the Again, I would remove "rather than just issuing infinite flow control credit at the beginning". The point remains good though, so I'd keep the rest. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1231#pullrequestreview-104909628 ----==_mimepart_5aafa3cc8ccf2_1cf373f981d762f38126861 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@martinthomson commented on this pull request.

GitHub ate my homework, but let me take another look...

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 To limit ACK blocks to those that have not yet been received by the sender, the
 receiver SHOULD track which ACK frames have been acknowledged by its peer.  Once
 an ACK frame has been acknowledged, the packets it acknowledges SHOULD NOT be
 acknowledged again.
 
-A receiver that is only sending ACK frames will not receive acknowledgments for
-its packets.  Sending an occasional MAX_DATA or MAX_STREAM_DATA frame as data is
-received will ensure that acknowledgements are generated by a peer.  Otherwise,
-an endpoint MAY send a PING frame once per RTT to solicit an acknowledgment.
+Because ACK-only packets are not acknowledged, a receiver that is only
+sending ACK frames will only receive acknowledgements for its packets
+if the sender piggybacks them on other packets. In order to enable
+this, senders SHOULD prioritize sending ACKs along with their data.

I agree with this. The point of changing this text is to make it clear what the consequences of particular design choices are. I would remove this sentence (starting with "In order to enable").

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 To limit ACK blocks to those that have not yet been received by the sender, the
 receiver SHOULD track which ACK frames have been acknowledged by its peer.  Once
 an ACK frame has been acknowledged, the packets it acknowledges SHOULD NOT be
 acknowledged again.
 
-A receiver that is only sending ACK frames will not receive acknowledgments for
-its packets.  Sending an occasional MAX_DATA or MAX_STREAM_DATA frame as data is
-received will ensure that acknowledgements are generated by a peer.  Otherwise,
-an endpoint MAY send a PING frame once per RTT to solicit an acknowledgment.
+Because ACK-only packets are not acknowledged, a receiver that is only
+sending ACK frames will only receive acknowledgements for its packets
+if the sender piggybacks them on other packets. In order to enable
+this, senders SHOULD prioritize sending ACKs along with their data.
+In addition, if a receiver regularly issues additional flow control
+credit rather than just issuing infinite flow control credit at the

Again, I would remove "rather than just issuing infinite flow control credit at the beginning". The point remains good though, so I'd keep the rest.

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Give QPACK encoders and decoders their own unidirectional streams (hardcoded to 6,7,10,11 for now) 2. Define simple framing for encoder stream 3. Move HEADER_ACK from HTTP over QUIC frame to QPACK instruction 4. Introduce Table State Synchronize instruction Closes #1120 and #1121 ----==_mimepart_5aafa3d3c14a1_38d12afe894c7c0c131812-- From nobody Mon Mar 19 04:52:21 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED9DC1275F4 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 04:52:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id D5APK5Go2EOe for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 04:52:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-smtp2a-ext-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (github-smtp2-ext4.iad.github.net [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 81E7912741D for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 04:52:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 04:52:16 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1521460336; bh=WDk1ITXfmkZtrw4OU7tem8n1O/NfSxSw3YB6GQJqOQA=; h=From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=bOO63XktPIqNSgIfpsVcAp+eGn/zrnLf09jKQkxONe4zp+yiaVWNp8Wp2HFvGc/IY /O+CvihBQozl6qOqaAR3sd2/C5988D9FfIMcmWYUuE7ieUgonAATSbpQxd7+hwouI9 AHNuFzILAPvNPhGw/ST0Z8cRDB62hHhQk6JS781k= From: ekr Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Restrict ACK-clocking to ACK-only frames. 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Once an ACK frame has been acknowledged, the packets it acknowledges SHOULD NOT be acknowledged again. -A receiver that is only sending ACK frames will not receive acknowledgments for -its packets. Sending an occasional MAX_DATA or MAX_STREAM_DATA frame as data is -received will ensure that acknowledgements are generated by a peer. Otherwise, -an endpoint MAY send a PING frame once per RTT to solicit an acknowledgment. +Because ACK-only packets are not acknowledged, a receiver that is only +sending ACK frames will only receive acknowledgements for its packets +if the sender piggybacks them on other packets. In order to enable @mikkelfj: I suggest you file a separate issue. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1231#discussion_r175408850 ----==_mimepart_5aafa470a5d19_ced3f9af1a4cf38101128 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@ekr commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 To limit ACK blocks to those that have not yet been received by the sender, the
 receiver SHOULD track which ACK frames have been acknowledged by its peer.  Once
 an ACK frame has been acknowledged, the packets it acknowledges SHOULD NOT be
 acknowledged again.
 
-A receiver that is only sending ACK frames will not receive acknowledgments for
-its packets.  Sending an occasional MAX_DATA or MAX_STREAM_DATA frame as data is
-received will ensure that acknowledgements are generated by a peer.  Otherwise,
-an endpoint MAY send a PING frame once per RTT to solicit an acknowledgment.
+Because ACK-only packets are not acknowledged, a receiver that is only
+sending ACK frames will only receive acknowledgements for its packets
+if the sender piggybacks them on other packets. In order to enable

@mikkelfj: I suggest you file a separate issue.

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Only the oldest ACK'ed block should not be acked again. It also leads to unnecessary bookkeeping. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1234 ----==_mimepart_5aafa7f1cd441_22002afc5da6eecc2125f0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

It is an unfortunate that requirement that "SHOULD NOT be ack'ed again":

You want to ack packets again because you collapse gaps into larger blocks. Only the oldest ACK'ed block should not be acked again. It also leads to unnecessary bookkeeping.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 To limit ACK blocks to those that have not yet been received by the sender, the
 receiver SHOULD track which ACK frames have been acknowledged by its peer.  Once
 an ACK frame has been acknowledged, the packets it acknowledges SHOULD NOT be
 acknowledged again.
 
-A receiver that is only sending ACK frames will not receive acknowledgments for
-its packets.  Sending an occasional MAX_DATA or MAX_STREAM_DATA frame as data is
-received will ensure that acknowledgements are generated by a peer.  Otherwise,
-an endpoint MAY send a PING frame once per RTT to solicit an acknowledgment.
+Because ACK-only packets are not acknowledged, a receiver that is only
+sending ACK frames will only receive acknowledgements for its packets
+if the sender piggybacks them on other packets. In order to enable

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Once an ACK frame has been acknowledged, the packets it acknowledges SHOULD NOT be acknowledged again. -A receiver that is only sending ACK frames will not receive acknowledgments for -its packets. Sending an occasional MAX_DATA or MAX_STREAM_DATA frame as data is -received will ensure that acknowledgements are generated by a peer. Otherwise, -an endpoint MAY send a PING frame once per RTT to solicit an acknowledgment. +Because ACK-only packets are not acknowledged, a receiver that is only +sending ACK frames will only receive acknowledgements for its packets +if the sender piggybacks them on other packets. In order to enable The text as it stands makes sense: **If** a peer wants an ACK for an ACK (e.g. to prune the lowest acked packet), it can include a retransmittable frame. This depends on which ack-pruning algorithm it uses, and it has nothing to do with how frames are bundled. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 To limit ACK blocks to those that have not yet been received by the sender, the
 receiver SHOULD track which ACK frames have been acknowledged by its peer.  Once
 an ACK frame has been acknowledged, the packets it acknowledges SHOULD NOT be
 acknowledged again.
 
-A receiver that is only sending ACK frames will not receive acknowledgments for
-its packets.  Sending an occasional MAX_DATA or MAX_STREAM_DATA frame as data is
-received will ensure that acknowledgements are generated by a peer.  Otherwise,
-an endpoint MAY send a PING frame once per RTT to solicit an acknowledgment.
+Because ACK-only packets are not acknowledged, a receiver that is only
+sending ACK frames will only receive acknowledgements for its packets
+if the sender piggybacks them on other packets. In order to enable

The text as it stands makes sense: If a peer wants an ACK for an ACK (e.g. to prune the lowest acked packet), it can include a retransmittable frame. This depends on which ack-pruning algorithm it uses, and it has nothing to do with how frames are bundled.

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At the point where you received an ACK for an ACK, 1 RTT has passed, and= there's no need to include any packet lower than the largest acked in new = ACK frames, even if you received a heavily reordered packet. By that time, = this packet will have been retransmitted anyway.

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@ekr commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 To limit ACK blocks to those that have not yet been received by the sender, the
 receiver SHOULD track which ACK frames have been acknowledged by its peer.  Once
 an ACK frame has been acknowledged, the packets it acknowledges SHOULD NOT be
 acknowledged again.
 
-A receiver that is only sending ACK frames will not receive acknowledgments for
-its packets.  Sending an occasional MAX_DATA or MAX_STREAM_DATA frame as data is
-received will ensure that acknowledgements are generated by a peer.  Otherwise,
-an endpoint MAY send a PING frame once per RTT to solicit an acknowledgment.
+Because ACK-only packets are not acknowledged, a receiver that is only
+sending ACK frames will only receive acknowledgements for its packets
+if the sender piggybacks them on other packets. In order to enable

That part of the text is correct. What's not correct is the claim that you will not receive ACKs if you do not do so.

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----==_mimepart_5aafadde2eb08_64f33fe79b44ef2c356273-- From nobody Mon Mar 19 06:00:29 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E46D312778E for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 06:00:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.606 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.606 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NsgDZvpuA0TO for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 06:00:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o10.sgmail.github.com (o10.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CEA8F12778D for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 06:00:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=zVJy8PZpWIyUm9U0ONdm6RTGa/Q=; b=uz0wrJ3xBQ8gHQa/ IbvpPuZ1t07yKQFKUbWMEmLGZdeSv+KOtl5sCyUQniHjfIhbN5VsgcWhISDWkABs OwBlKHlUKZn2bKEZX5YAElR4fotXFus+z53aw0yX3b1je+qXU0LgIdHWVQ0MlWWi GJFTry/twbhIcNMkRsc7dZ5gKVw= Received: by filter0021p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0021p1las1-13405-5AAFB466-10 2018-03-19 13:00:22.338794287 +0000 UTC Received: from smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) by ismtpd0048p1mdw1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id Y3qF2TgJTsmbNYAiHx56oA for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 13:00:22.190 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 13:00:22 +0000 (UTC) From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Allow repeat ACK's (#1234) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aafb465eee58_60b62ab5c18a0ed4607024"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak1VITqoUOAiL8oGgqSuqIf0bQoZTDOnECoyXC w0Nh1oix1d805FBueSSyl+cCM8bEZUYAuEGPXoCg7VcOC5VfcbyBIgNaawUFVcwcAm/pRZHOjtk93O KXm540Xm2hvYJOillWogt1/UZ8goLMu+E36Akz5bZM5O9SVUwgdZ8alVlZCVd6PpU6JGgvfRISmzc+ E= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 13:00:27 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aafb465eee58_60b62ab5c18a0ed4607024 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does this hold for ultra low latency networks? The retransmission logic may not necessarily follow guidance, and why require tracking this. An ACK'might not be ACK'ed for quite a while anyway. It is a lot simpler to state that an ACK frame should not transmit more than one RTT worth of packets, or what is deemed suitable for the current network conditions. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1234#issuecomment-374203003 ----==_mimepart_5aafb465eee58_60b62ab5c18a0ed4607024 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Does this hold for ultra low latency networks? The retransmission logic = may not necessarily follow guidance, and why require tracking this. An ACK'= might not be ACK'ed for quite a while anyway.

It is a lot simpler to state that an ACK frame should not transmit more = than one RTT worth of packets, or what is deemed suitable for the current n= etwork conditions.

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Changed the instruction for duplicate from 001/5+ to 1/7+. This is because Table Size Update is otherwise a valid QPACK instruction

Fixes #1142

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Fixes #1126

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Fixes #1129

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  1. Give QPACK encoders and decoders their own unidirectional streams (hardcoded to 6,7,10,11 for now)
  2. Define simple framing for encoder stream
  3. Move HEADER_ACK from HTTP over QUIC frame to QPACK instruction
  4. Introduce Table State Synchronize instruction

Fixes #1120 and #1121

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  • Move QPACK control instructions to dedicated streams

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  1. Changes the header block prefix and removes the BLOCKING flag
  2. Re-uses table modification code points on request streams for "above base" indexing
  3. Include a sample 1-pass encoding algorithm

Fixes #1138

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  • QPACK single pass encoding

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----==_mimepart_5aafbb5af0d81_1e883fa3a852af2c556c8-- From nobody Mon Mar 19 06:47:35 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFC9F126D74 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 06:47:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.392 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.392 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JQ72QDf4RG79 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 06:47:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o8.sgmail.github.com (o8.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.199]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E49E01242F5 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 06:47:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=oJSs6uUNeu2K/5aXlV6MT5Vubz4=; b=TOHAFqsDJ8c6jPoL Zjm2MhxdVdPoiLGm5cAxVylO2cCieoy2pIL4PCH4uVnVa2gBaO2CXNh8HISEF9Nc K6uF373N2BrrM+Tt0nffpGz0aq7EXsRvjXlgZy48I9O4Wp+Ji3RaFKaU1lefofVU IMYyFK1NR6jWQTGgEI4QHvt1LeE= Received: by filter0584p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0584p1iad2-13538-5AAFBF73-29 2018-03-19 13:47:31.697720382 +0000 UTC Received: from smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) by ismtpd0015p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id RBvr-OiGSfGqWi25ZqXqWg for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 13:47:31.605 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 13:47:31 +0000 (UTC) From: hardie Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Prime client with connection ID for 0-RTT (#584) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aafbf73758d9_35d12b0a4162ced0147983"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: hardie X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak20zwpVaLgVDOX1rz8vdwFfc7PY8K5pY9hoka 0aH8uyureNuhmingVDi7R7cppQxPLhaHdbDrcFTA+4PAeWJEauJJxSd0mL6BlTO2j/QKeGgZFlO6hp r6vPxnoanQYT2dz5wq2nn5HlsrkZhyeMyJsTk0orKygLLFNg3ZWLFCqwdw== Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 13:47:34 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aafbf73758d9_35d12b0a4162ced0147983 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It seems like supplying the connection ID with the session ticket allows you to both use the same one for all session tickets supplied (the same as this proposal) or to vary them with session ticket supplied which might be useful in some routing contexts. Could we consider that approach as well? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/584#issuecomment-374217104 ----==_mimepart_5aafbf73758d9_35d12b0a4162ced0147983 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

It seems like supplying the connection ID with the session ticket allows= you to both use the same one for all session tickets supplied (the same as= this proposal) or to vary them with session ticket supplied which might be= useful in some routing contexts. Could we consider that approach as well?=

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I think it's a reasonable idea in concept, but I'm not super-enthusiasti= c about the proposed newSessionTicket frame. As a practical matter, you're = going to need your TLS stack to process the NST, so I'd rather just send it= in stream/cream 0 and then have the TLS stack eat it. At that point you ha= ve two options:

  1. Internal session cache, in which you interrogate the TLS stack after it= has emitted CH (but before you send the packet) for its properties (whethe= r 0-RTT is available, ALPN, etc.)
  2. External session cache, in which the TLS stack tells you when a new tic= ket is available and its properties and you store it.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

>  desired.
 
-To ensure that the blocked eviction case is rare, references to the oldest
-entries in the dynamic table SHOULD be avoided.  When one of the oldest entries
-in the table is still actively used for references, the encoder SHOULD emit an
-Indexed-Duplicate representation instead (see {{indexed-duplicate}}).
+To ensure that blocked evictions are rare, the encoder SHOULD avoid
+referencing any eviction-prone entries, which are dynamic table entries that may
+be evicted soon.  Rather than reference an eviction-prone entry, the encoder
+SHOULD emit an Indexed-Duplicate representation (see {{indexed-duplicate}}),
+and reference the duplicate instead.
+
+To identify eviction-prone entries, the encoder may maintain a draining index,
+which is the smallest index in the dynamic table that it will emit a
+reference for.  As new entries are inserted, the encoder increments the
+draining index such that the amount of free and draining space in the dyanmic
+table is larger than its target threshold.

I'm fairly stupid during meetings that I pay attention to, but I didn't follow this last paragraph very well. Smallest implies small numbers, but I think that you mean smallest "base" (which is the inverse of indices).

I probably don't really understand what you are trying to say, so consider tweaking for clarity. That might mean more text.

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----==_mimepart_5aafc4325ea25_5f2a2ab5cb526ed42314f0-- From nobody Mon Mar 19 07:08:44 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F240126D45 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 07:08:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.464 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.464 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id I_eLQHwYUaGt for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 07:08:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o3.sgmail.github.com (o3.sgmail.github.com [192.254.112.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 000611204DA for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 07:08:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=9UaGPzoiLiY44SOGBgAz/oehx9M=; b=WBauv0DBYM4ygsyI Wf2Kny7adwTmhAonYwG9mqAbf+6FB2AjP6mjB6/AQsYGPJE13jTejSfTWm/NpxfE 2FpLK9bpXJkRUjnIxF3bjGDAGo21LqCvD520jYR10It9zL12O0iEJg1hoidxYbEj YR+BnLE7febFWwWCYU1I2SWUN8c= Received: by filter0504p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0504p1las1-22868-5AAFC461-21 2018-03-19 14:08:33.660513809 +0000 UTC Received: from smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) by ismtpd0048p1mdw1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id NVDCOR6LSXSC9JcNw2pSZA for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 14:08:33.526 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 14:08:33 +0000 (UTC) From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Move QPACK control instructions to dedicated streams (#1238) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aafc4614c528_1eac3fa3a852af2c35405d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak1lHU2lY/kCCGsoB8mcQy12Kr5C4UXnghERC7 xMSLmwATASCKLekT+CUif66iO/iFLpXyIbjgEjRWsAfS8XEXDEZkAJnRGYJflKEydLa/GEwFN3eCrw XwBURC3RSvRLNXEsco2+OAQ7iITRKun44xfABbmEmF/Yy18wFLc7CFvI+/WityXx6FTVEedgY6XBnp g= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 14:08:43 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aafc4614c528_1eac3fa3a852af2c35405d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rather than hard-code, I would *greatly* prefer that this used a stream header. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1238#issuecomment-374224155 ----==_mimepart_5aafc4614c528_1eac3fa3a852af2c35405d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Rather than hard-code, I would greatly prefer that this used a stream header.

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It is unclear how fast an endpoint should respond to PING so some clarification would be useful.

It could be no later than when the delayed ACK timer expires because this is the latest an ACK can be deferred. But it could also be expected to be ASAP and used for timing data, or it could be application dependent.

There is also a potential for abuse - as others have pointed out recently, just adding PING to ACK frames can force the hand of the peer. But, if PING is responded to particularly fast, this could be worse than with normal delayed ACKs.

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  • allow asymmetry of versions

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With PATH_CHALLENGE, the current text is fine. PING is acknowledged, as normal.

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If we're sending CFIN and 1-RTT data in the same flight, and only the CFIN is lost, the client can only use the handshake timeout to recover the FIN and not any threshold based recovery.

We don't allow the server to use the 1-RTT keys until it receives the CFIN. This makes it so that even if the server has received 1-RTT data it cannot ack it which would have triggered threshold loss recovery. So the client has to rely on the handshake timeout to send the data.

Are we fine with saying that the client should have a way more aggressive loss timeout for handshake packets than the server should?

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This is a specific property of the TLS 1.3 handshake. I'd be more comf= ortable to keep our loss recovery independent of the specifics of the cry= pto handshake.
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I don't think the problem exists with the server specifically because CF= IN is dependent on the SFIN, so the client would not send any data without = receiving the SFIN. If the SFIN is lost then the client can't even send ACK= s. I think finished messages are tails and should be treated as such

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= ----==_mimepart_5ab004525b1da_6662ad5b524ced4897032-- From nobody Mon Mar 19 15:14:45 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D09A3120727 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 15:14:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.606 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.606 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hBgByE1Avz2J for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 15:14:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o1.sgmail.github.com (o1.sgmail.github.com [192.254.114.176]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 15CDF1200E5 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 15:14:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=VfP9/WihbFFzdzlrjjTWXL0jMcE=; b=JLHzDnHs9BBMdFSe nAYvf9aDeI/aaYWFVDSeCB6qFeHsnSRzxaZC2bWKgbMHZ7uF78WbLggSLBp+EbIC Fcpl/rNHX0ETfVWU8q5uJcLOo2lt9jI7H9AtZv+LXNMg1l3WDtPgPqZDPv1VgwSl +4UaZkIyLHQA9+Z1nYNcqih/uL8= Received: by filter0405p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0405p1iad2-7960-5AB03650-38 2018-03-19 22:14:40.97275211 +0000 UTC Received: from smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) by ismtpd0038p1mdw1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id pRXNvd4FTzSgJ0NPDCQ_IQ for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 22:14:40.717 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 22:14:41 +0000 (UTC) From: Erik Nygren Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] ICMP and ICMPv6 PMTUD with asymmetric connection-ids (#1243) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ab0365072b71_7c142ab9b66acecc6896e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: enygren X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak11LIVl5NTvJ3HeUnhCAellMPaJwq2IaXLpdU Iq3VRyv6WqM88Ox5Vc09vKv5sFmbA8zBh2uCAZyb80NQaSC5vVFsVIZpkxJIQ2CxHM4CIztJx6V7SL QvheygvK9PyHEyv5nqgYVZj8UokF7ANLlniaSvHPfbwEyYSF4nCex/MBb/m7YcjHF5rms58Mht1YAW w= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 22:14:44 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ab0365072b71_7c142ab9b66acecc6896e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Asymmetric connection-ids introduce problems for handling ICMP and ICMPv6 PMTUD messages (such as ICMPv6 packet-too-big) in conjunction with stateless load balancers. For example, if a server sends out a packet containing a client connection-id that is too big, a router or tunnel end-point may send back an ICMPv6 PTB message containing the packet header. Because the PTB message with the packet header only contains the client connecton-id, it isn't possible to route to the proper server. While ICMP/ICMPv6 PTB messages are best treated as optimizations, being able to get them can be very useful for identifying the source off loss quickly as being a too-large packet. Note that other ICMP(v6) messages such as destination-unreachable also have a similar problem with asymmetric connection-ids. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1243 ----==_mimepart_5ab0365072b71_7c142ab9b66acecc6896e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Asymmetric connection-ids introduce problems for handling ICMP and ICMPv6 PMTUD messages (such as ICMPv6 packet-too-big) in conjunction with stateless load balancers. For example, if a server sends out a packet containing a client connection-id that is too big, a router or tunnel end-point may send back an ICMPv6 PTB message containing the packet header. Because the PTB message with the packet header only contains the client connecton-id, it isn't possible to route to the proper server.

While ICMP/ICMPv6 PTB messages are best treated as optimizations, being able to get them can be very useful for identifying the source off loss quickly as being a too-large packet.

Note that other ICMP(v6) messages such as destination-unreachable also have a similar problem with asymmetric connection-ids.

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One proposal based on discussions would be to allow Long headers (with= both client and server connection-ids) in certain situations following t= he handshake. In particular, when performing a PMTUD probe (or otherwise= sending a packet with a larger size than the current PMTU), using a Long= form header would mean that a stateless load balancer would still be abl= e to route it based on the payload of the ICMP(v6) message, plus it might= make it safer and easier for the server to validate that the packet was = send by a device on-path. Both endpoints would still of course need to h= ave reasonable lower bounds on PMTU as well.

Similarly, such a scheme could also make it more reasonable to support= ICMP(v6) destination-unreachable messages in a way that wasn't vulnerabl= e to parallel-to-path resets but could allow devices such as NATs to even= tually squelch connections where state is no longer present. For example= , if the Nth and subsequent (3rd?) retransmits of the same data was sent = with a full Long header (with both connection-ids) and an ICMP(v6) respon= se is returned that contains both connection-ids (plus enough data from w= hat was sent for validation) then this is a good sign that the node sendi= ng is both on-path and that this is a degenerate situation that should on= ly have been reached after multiple losses and thus likely from a legitim= ate active middle-box.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

>  desired.
 
-To ensure that the blocked eviction case is rare, references to the oldest
-entries in the dynamic table SHOULD be avoided.  When one of the oldest entries
-in the table is still actively used for references, the encoder SHOULD emit an
-Indexed-Duplicate representation instead (see {{indexed-duplicate}}).
+To ensure that blocked evictions are rare, the encoder SHOULD avoid
+referencing any eviction-prone entries, which are dynamic table entries that may
+be evicted soon.  Rather than reference an eviction-prone entry, the encoder
+SHOULD emit an Indexed-Duplicate representation (see {{indexed-duplicate}}),
+and reference the duplicate instead.
+
+To identify eviction-prone entries, the encoder may maintain a draining index,
+which is the smallest index in the dynamic table that it will emit a
+reference for.  As new entries are inserted, the encoder increments the
+draining index such that the amount of free and draining space in the dyanmic
+table is larger than its target threshold.

Sorry, I meant the smallest absolute index. I wouldn't call it a base, since I think of a base as an absolute index that you encode against. I'm guessing that alone isn't enough to clarify?

I think of draining space as space in the table occupied by valid entries that the encoder chooses not to use.

Here's the little snippet of code that I use to implement, where minUsable_ represents my draining index:

  while (capacity_ - bytes_ + drainedBytes_ < table_->minFree() &&
         minUsable_ <= baseIndex_) {
    VLOG(5) << "Draining absolute index " << minUsable_;
    drainedBytes_ += (*table_)[absoluteToInternal(minUsable_++)].bytes();

  }

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Can you explain the basis of your preference? A client has no other u= nidirectional streams defined in HTTP over QUIC, and a server must proces= s/acknowledge at least one header block before opening any push streams. = It is further very unlikely the server would open a push stream without = first encoding a header block that inserts at least one header to the dyn= amic table. So in practice it's going to work out to these streams anywa= ys.

How do you see the encode/decode streams as materially different from = the control stream, which is hardcoded?

Aside: it occurs to me that a server could compress a PUSH_PROMISE a l= ot better if it compressed against the client's table, which of course do= esn't work ;)

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= ----==_mimepart_5ab0427d31fa9_4073f9a5d84ef2c67036-- From nobody Mon Mar 19 16:27:54 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9CFE12D95F for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 16:27:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.008 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.008 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id j4eRELhn7ask for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 16:27:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2F0DB12D7F4 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 16:27:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 16:27:50 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1521502070; bh=wspsGbuIBSYe6H/fRWlitu/jk4yD8+Sma3mhgrqmFvo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=kvRfOhPON3iuWJA7NtoAZQtC8Vxb5klzUF1/2VQhVX4JnwvRf+Csow4YvS8K4zYGw bACAzwdjewuNbtzuN0Oca75R0uCCVh28tJZruiLiYhOcXAkK9cMhpFHJX3+2Csmzob aviXrXZsa3Y8OhNk2aRO7OdQUwzO79ywBimlt9Ws= From: Igor Lubashev Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] ICMP and ICMPv6 (Type: DestinationUnreachable) (#377) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ab047761331c_ea83fd328ef4f3087574"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: igorlord X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 23:27:53 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ab047761331c_ea83fd328ef4f3087574 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @mikkelfj The attacker can spoof Version Negotiation packet from the server. It seems that unless the Server can also sign its Version Negotiation response (even in @ekr's style ver neg), including "we speak no common version" response,, defences would invariably have to rely on a timeout (to await the arrival of the actual packet from the server). And waiting on a timer during handshake may be a suboptimal thing to do, in case the client has other options to try. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/377#issuecomment-374420299 ----==_mimepart_5ab047761331c_ea83fd328ef4f3087574 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@mikkel= fj The attacker can spoof Version Negotiation packet from the server.= It seems that unless the Server can also sign its Version Negotiation r= esponse (even in @ekr's style ver neg), including "we speak no common version" respo= nse,, defences would invariably have to rely on a timeout (to await the a= rrival of the actual packet from the server). And waiting on a timer dur= ing handshake may be a suboptimal thing to do, in case the client has oth= er options to try.

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We used to allow long-header packets after handshake, but got rid of them for the lack of a use case. This is a valid use case, so it would be good to bring back these long-header packets.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  
 An implementation should take care to architect its congestion controller to
 work well with a pacer.  For instance, a pacer might wrap the congestion
 controller and control the availability of the congestion window, or a pacer
-might pace out packets handed to it by the congestion controller.
+might pace out packets handed to it by the congestion controller.  In either
+arrangement, packets only containing ACK frames should not be paced, to prevent
+spurious timeout based retransmissions and to ensure the intended max ack delay
+is honored.

This sentence is a bit unwieldy. How about:
"Timely delivery of ACK frames is important for efficient loss recovery. Packets containing only ACK frames should therefore not be paced, to avoid delaying their delivery to the peer."

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The source of the stream header is, I think, the discussion in #910 about eliminating references to particular stream IDs in the application layer. You can make a QUIC interface that depends only on receiving a stream and reading the bytes to figure out what to do with it, rather than needing to open / listen on *particular* streams by ID. I think that model is important for things that could crop up mid-connection, but I don't feel as strongly about the header for streams that are unique and persistent. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1238#issuecomment-374550793 ----==_mimepart_5ab0e4fc7a014_7b7c3fe14c9f6f381508ad Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Looks reasonable. The source of the stream header is, I think, the disc= ussion in #910 about = eliminating references to particular stream IDs in the application layer. = You can make a QUIC interface that depends only on receiving a stream and r= eading the bytes to figure out what to do with it, rather than needing to o= pen / listen on particular streams by ID.

I think that model is important for things that could crop up mid-connec= tion, but I don't feel as strongly about the header for streams that are un= ique and persistent.

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This is another form of the problem in #1190, or related to an extent that it might not be worth having another issue. See that issue for an idea...

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I had an insight yesterday. Maybe the newly proposed CRACK frame can elicit acknowledgments.

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Ya i filed this as a new issue because when I spoke to @marten-seemann and @janaiyengar about this issue, they were also as surprised by this as I was.

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I think you're correct that this is what you need for references to enable single-pass encoding. However, I feel like you're really wasting bytes by adding in the static table size. If you're going to define a new instruction, you know that you can't have added to the static table, so just make 1 (or 0) the first entry added during the encode and so on. > -The header block contains a prefix ({{absolute-index}}). This prefix contains -table offset information that establishes total ordering among all headers, -regardless of reordering in the transport (see {{overview-absolute}}). - -In blocking mode, the prefix additionally identifies the minimum state required -to process any vulnerable references in the header block (see `Depends Index` in -{{overview-absolute}}). The decoder keeps track of which entries have been -added to its dynamic table. The stream for a header with BLOCKING flag set is -considered blocked by the decoder and can not be processed until all entries in -the range `[1, Depends Index]` have been added. While blocked, header -field data MUST remain in the blocked stream's flow control window. +avoiding them). + +QPACK header blocks contains a prefix ({{absolute-index}}) that specifies the +minimum state of the decoder required to process the block. If the decoder does +not yet have the required state, it must defer processing until it reaches the Probably "will need to." We're no longer prohibited from using the lower-case versions of the keywords, but it's still good practice to avoid confusion and you already have a MUST in the next sentence. > +used with different instructions that tell the decoder to use a different +mechanism to calculate an entry's absolute index. + +### Literal with Above Base Name Index + +Literal with Above Base Name Index reuses the Literal with Incremental +Indexing instruction, and is represented as follows: + +~~~~~~~~~~ drawing + 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 + +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ + |0|1| Index (6+)| + +---------------+ + |H|Value Len(8+)| + +---------------+ + |Value (*) | We've generally been centering labels, though QPACK/HPACK have such narrow diagrams they usually consume the whole width. > + +---------------+ +~~~~~~~~~~ + +### Indexed Header Field with Above Base Index + +Indexed Header Field with Above Base Index reuses the Table Size Update +instruction, and is represented as follows: + +~~~~~~~~~~ drawing + 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 + +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ + |0|0|1|Index(5+)| + +---------------+ +~~~~~~~~~~ + + I feel like these need more description in the instruction, even though you have a generally good description up above. 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I think you're correct that this is what you need for references to enable single-pass encoding. However, I feel like you're really wasting bytes by adding in the static table size. If you're going to define a new instruction, you know that you can't have added to the static table, so just make 1 (or 0) the first entry added during the encode and so on.

In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> -The header block contains a prefix ({{absolute-index}}). This prefix contains
-table offset information that establishes total ordering among all headers,
-regardless of reordering in the transport (see {{overview-absolute}}).
-
-In blocking mode, the prefix additionally identifies the minimum state required
-to process any vulnerable references in the header block (see `Depends Index` in
-{{overview-absolute}}).  The decoder keeps track of which entries have been
-added to its dynamic table.  The stream for a header with BLOCKING flag set is
-considered blocked by the decoder and can not be processed until all entries in
-the range `[1, Depends Index]` have been added.  While blocked, header
-field data MUST remain in the blocked stream's flow control window.
+avoiding them).
+
+QPACK header blocks contains a prefix ({{absolute-index}}) that specifies the
+minimum state of the decoder required to process the block. If the decoder does
+not yet have the required state, it must defer processing until it reaches the

Probably "will need to." We're no longer prohibited from using the lower-case versions of the keywords, but it's still good practice to avoid confusion and you already have a MUST in the next sentence.

In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> +used with different instructions that tell the decoder to use a different
+mechanism to calculate an entry's absolute index.
+
+### Literal with Above Base Name Index
+
+Literal with Above Base Name Index reuses the Literal with Incremental
+Indexing instruction, and is represented as follows:
+
+~~~~~~~~~~  drawing
+    0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
+   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+   |0|1| Index (6+)|
+   +---------------+
+   |H|Value Len(8+)|
+   +---------------+
+   |Value (*)      |

We've generally been centering labels, though QPACK/HPACK have such narrow diagrams they usually consume the whole width.

In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> +   +---------------+
+~~~~~~~~~~
+
+### Indexed Header Field with Above Base Index
+
+Indexed Header Field with Above Base Index reuses the Table Size Update
+instruction, and is represented as follows:
+
+~~~~~~~~~~  drawing
+    0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
+   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+   |0|0|1|Index(5+)|
+   +---------------+
+~~~~~~~~~~
+
+

I feel like these need more description in the instruction, even though you have a generally good description up above. Maybe just some relocation/duplication of text?

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BTW, I think you might have meant #1122 rather than #1120. #1120 is another PR that has already been merged.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -253,7 +253,7 @@ Indexed-Duplicate representation instead (see {{indexed-duplicate}}).
 ~~~~~~~~~~  drawing
     0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
    +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
-   |0|0|1|Index(5+)|
+   |1|Index(7+)    |

Center, and probably a space before the parenthesis since there's room.

In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -262,8 +262,8 @@ Indexed-Duplicate representation instead (see {{indexed-duplicate}}).
 an existing entry. {{RFC7541}} allows duplicate HPACK table entries, that is
 entries that have the same name and value.
 
-This replaces the HPACK instruction for Dynamic Table Size Update (see Section
-6.3 of {{RFC7541}}, which is not supported by HTTP over QUIC.
+This repurposes the HPACK instruction for Indexed Header Field (see Section
+6.1 of {{RFC7541}}.

This wording might be confusing to some readers. It might be more accurate to say that you're defining the behavior of this instruction on the control stream, while it retains its usual meaning on the request streams.

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I like that this makes the instructions sets have fewer invalid values. I dislike that it gives a short prefix code to one of the least-common instructions.

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Didn't we talk yesterday about pacing ACK-only packets as well, to ensure that the recipient isn't flooding the network with an "every other incoming packet" ACK strategy?

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I think that may solve the problem with some constraints, but HANDSHAKE_DONE or some equivalent seems easier to me.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> -The header block contains a prefix ({{absolute-index}}). This prefix contains
-table offset information that establishes total ordering among all headers,
-regardless of reordering in the transport (see {{overview-absolute}}).
-
-In blocking mode, the prefix additionally identifies the minimum state required
-to process any vulnerable references in the header block (see `Depends Index` in
-{{overview-absolute}}).  The decoder keeps track of which entries have been
-added to its dynamic table.  The stream for a header with BLOCKING flag set is
-considered blocked by the decoder and can not be processed until all entries in
-the range `[1, Depends Index]` have been added.  While blocked, header
-field data MUST remain in the blocked stream's flow control window.
+avoiding them).
+
+QPACK header blocks contains a prefix ({{absolute-index}}) that specifies the
+minimum state of the decoder required to process the block. If the decoder does
+not yet have the required state, it must defer processing until it reaches the

or present tense: "...it defers processing"

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----==_mimepart_5ab11830b2670_101d3fafb2632f305720-- From nobody Tue Mar 20 07:23:56 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A0361200FC for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2018 07:23:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.393 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.393 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7pssd1sodZJn for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2018 07:23:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o4.sgmail.github.com (o4.sgmail.github.com [192.254.112.99]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DB3AC1200B9 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2018 07:23:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=nl3z43+9NpwHtNcaqx71H9Uvv58=; b=JoYxtCYwJ6rleR0S UZIp3goAolP562YVCNLzVLjwijUADs0u611z0iHImCd1QIxw0Pt0IOGPyjWWHFuk xfo+DnzG+j1oO/6CBM++Ct8Xs5Rw2l2DKEkDfDE4oufSbtkFe31KFHAvhwrWkFzl 1iYZovYCSWaSzCXZfoT4xvkkAUw= Received: by filter0435p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0435p1iad2-29709-5AB11978-9 2018-03-20 14:23:52.786656286 +0000 UTC Received: from smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) by ismtpd0033p1mdw1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id dz0ZE5n5S-ebH5AegQHPaQ for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2018 14:23:52.782 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 14:23:53 +0000 (UTC) From: afrind Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QPACK single pass encoding (#1239) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ab1197888011_3ffc3f849f13af3416995f"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: afrind X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak0pa3tXIqsSRqX0tRQu3H4xaR5IhV2Jsy8ha8 5+FQACqly/pXQK2w2E6TRq3Rz6gVPxwpltDwALOgi6MKZQa1y0BNm/Jq/yMavVB3bCHycYa9jfTX9d MhUVZOCWFlKD9Rn7Ia43LaCBxlwPDnVDi/aT4EtzYBjJM7tHJ2Zn5wEyCw== Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 14:23:55 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ab1197888011_3ffc3f849f13af3416995f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I can remove the static table size. I added it for consistency - eg: all dynamic table references are shifted by this amount, but it's really gratuitous in this case (also in Index-Duplication) -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1239#issuecomment-374616161 ----==_mimepart_5ab1197888011_3ffc3f849f13af3416995f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I can remove the static table size. I added it for consistency - eg: all dynamic table references are shifted by this amount, but it's really gratuitous in this case (also in Index-Duplication)

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> -The header block contains a prefix ({{absolute-index}}). This prefix contains
-table offset information that establishes total ordering among all headers,
-regardless of reordering in the transport (see {{overview-absolute}}).
-
-In blocking mode, the prefix additionally identifies the minimum state required
-to process any vulnerable references in the header block (see `Depends Index` in
-{{overview-absolute}}).  The decoder keeps track of which entries have been
-added to its dynamic table.  The stream for a header with BLOCKING flag set is
-considered blocked by the decoder and can not be processed until all entries in
-the range `[1, Depends Index]` have been added.  While blocked, header
-field data MUST remain in the blocked stream's flow control window.
+avoiding them).
+
+QPACK header blocks contains a prefix ({{absolute-index}}) that specifies the
+minimum state of the decoder required to process the block. If the decoder does
+not yet have the required state, it must defer processing until it reaches the

Yep, that's better.

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Mike, I think we should add some text about rate limiting based on Monda= y's discussion, but actually pacing acks risks exceeding the intended delay= ed ack timer, which could have unintended consequences I'd rather avoid.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  
 An implementation should take care to architect its congestion controller to
 work well with a pacer.  For instance, a pacer might wrap the congestion
 controller and control the availability of the congestion window, or a pacer
-might pace out packets handed to it by the congestion controller.
+might pace out packets handed to it by the congestion controller.  In either
+arrangement, packets only containing ACK frames should not be paced, to prevent
+spurious timeout based retransmissions and to ensure the intended max ack delay
+is honored.

Thanks, changed.

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Partially fixes #592

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  • Reference RFC6928

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Invariants do not allow for future public signatures on the version negotation packet. Specific versions can of course add their packets, but it would be better if the version negation packet had room for a signature that future versions could evaluate. Doing this later in the handshake reduces the defense against handshake attacks from man-on-the-side. The connection ID swaps the source and destination in the server transmitted vneg packet. This adds a reasonable defense against off-path attacks but makes it impossible to use the source ID for a server signature. A simple solution would be allow the server to replace part of the source id with a public signature while preservering at least 64 octests from the client. This leaves 144 - 64 = 80 octets for a public signature. Ed25519 signatures are 64 octets - which then leaves room for an additional 80 - 64 = 16 octest for a public key identifier. Ed25519 might turn out to be weak and longer signatures would then be required. Therefore an alternative propososal would be to allow a server to append a signture after the version list. This requires a length field at the start of the version list. NOTE: the algorithm should be left unspecified - but reserving 80 octets would allow future versions some room. I would prefer adding a length field and allow for future data. Quote invariant draft 01: > Version Negotiation packets do not use integrity or confidentiality protection. A specific QUIC version might authenticate the packet as part of its connection establishment process. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1246 ----==_mimepart_5ab267acabff7_36262b1e417eeed02667bc Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Invariants do not allow for future public signatures on the version negotation packet.

Specific versions can of course add their packets, but it would be better if the version negation packet had room for a signature that future versions could evaluate.
Doing this later in the handshake reduces the defense against handshake attacks from man-on-the-side.

The connection ID swaps the source and destination in the server transmitted vneg packet. This adds a reasonable defense against off-path attacks but makes it impossible to use the source ID for a server signature.

A simple solution would be allow the server to replace part of the source id with a public signature while preservering at least 64 octests from the client. This leaves 144 - 64 = 80 octets for a public signature. Ed25519 signatures are 64 octets - which then leaves room for an additional 80 - 64 = 16 octest for a public key identifier. Ed25519 might turn out to be weak and longer signatures would then be required. Therefore an alternative propososal would be to allow a server to append a signture after the version list. This requires a length field at the start of the version list.

NOTE: the algorithm should be left unspecified - but reserving 80 octets would allow future versions some room.

I would prefer adding a length field and allow for future data.

Quote invariant draft 01:

Version Negotiation packets do not use integrity or confidentiality
protection. A specific QUIC version might authenticate the packet as
part of its connection establishment process.

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----==_mimepart_5ab267acabff7_36262b1e417eeed02667bc-- From nobody Wed Mar 21 07:13:31 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AEE512DA3D for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2018 07:13:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9cZSDoR0J5LQ for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2018 07:13:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C68C112DA29 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2018 07:13:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2018 07:13:26 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1521641606; bh=YMdsX61nD6Ex2RLWZoJ7s22+OxxQgen4h56PdS5JJDs=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=HeIzKFnIl9ZFHr3sABw1138xtBBMECF2U6/Cac1txEB/15EfO0Ye3/378Ivl8P8Hl bqEoKC7zlUfc69IYuTOIUlJJeoCA8XWEKtuDCyn8vXvZFrAKAhbltDJxhwHT7TcOXB IWrxrjuOiK/SATyGDZ63jD56O0U3g5x/M75jguuI= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Add length field to version negotiation packet (invariants) (#1247) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ab26886bb727_5b183f7f70fc6f28487de"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2018 14:13:30 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ab26886bb727_5b183f7f70fc6f28487de Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Add a length field to the list of versions in the version negotiation packet and allow future versions to extend the field, for example with a public signature as suggested in #1246 ``` 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ |1|X X X X X X X| +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Version (32) = 0 | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ |DCIL(4)|SCIL(4)| +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Destination Connection ID (0/32..144) ... +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Source Connection ID (0/32..144) ... +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Version count (8) | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Supported Version 1 (32) | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | [Supported Version 2 (32)] | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ... +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | [Supported Version N (32)] | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1247 ----==_mimepart_5ab26886bb727_5b183f7f70fc6f28487de Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Add a length field to the list of versions in the version negotiation packet and allow future versions to extend the field, for example with a public signature as suggested in #1246

 0                   1                   2                   3
    0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
   |1|X X X X X X X|
   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
   |                       Version (32) = 0                        |
   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
   |DCIL(4)|SCIL(4)|
   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
   |               Destination Connection ID (0/32..144)         ...
   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
   |                 Source Connection ID (0/32..144)            ...
   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
   |                    Version count (8)                          |
   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
   |                    Supported Version 1 (32)                   |
   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
   |                   [Supported Version 2 (32)]                  |
   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
                                  ...
   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
   |                   [Supported Version N (32)]                  |
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I talked about exactly this with @siyengar last night. I think it makes sens= e to have a way to future-proof the vneg packet, since it is part of the = invariants.

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We can always pick a new version number and define a version negotiation packet v2. This does not require a change in the existing version negotiation packet with version number 0.

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I expect the network to ossify that 0 for us

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This isn't an issue, it's a proposed solution.

The problem with trying to sign version negotiation is that you don't = have an existing relationship with the server to enable any kind of signi= ng key. So the method that invariants already calls out, in which the co= ntents of the VN packet are authenticated after the fact, seems the most = reasonable.

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= ----==_mimepart_5ab2a17530669_3ed43f85d1436f346486d-- From nobody Wed Mar 21 11:17:31 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1E06127863 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2018 11:17:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.391 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.391 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bPAKzZH1DAVX for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2018 11:17:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o10.sgmail.github.com (o10.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4249412762F for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2018 11:17:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=VWAVIN9SvOU/bxvCt7GHHqbpXCk=; b=cFa0asqRMh56mQ23 LzWcZR7N7eqh93teihrmiiFClkpvUiV1gO4Rx0yWVMpPBWUpDcrm/WVLrgchM1KW c5ueysOPo2zz7zMn+M4aV9dnhBep3eQ77xgVmLrkXAIqiJbJVEmmMykcgRtht43h LBWd0Pie6LILev6hbOkRmuZRgeM= Received: by filter0654p1mdw1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0654p1mdw1-32044-5AB2A1B6-3B 2018-03-21 18:17:26.809943335 +0000 UTC Received: from smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) by ismtpd0004p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id zS3mH5I0RDKW1-dS3HBOpw for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2018 18:17:26.814 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2018 18:17:27 +0000 (UTC) From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Invariants does not support public signatures on version negotiation (#1246) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ab2a1b6b51fd_75882ab37b10eed4140898"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak1Mo8ioUAV9DyKS0hIul3Pm+wCyfueUXELeSr V4iolt8+LCDGkXaidAKVD1DiwzfjKkv4NrVZZiNvpJkaci3hhKlEdaHHuznLua6Icdeyxns05wmzTX //uLoIWpkLCx8amF9qfGGmsYNiYJl4moFV37jOe5YWj4WdRLeAjI9unVcxPcce5rQbZEc6wKJb5K1y I= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2018 18:17:30 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ab2a1b6b51fd_75882ab37b10eed4140898 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This seems to be the issue you were targeting with the solution you suggested in #1247. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1246#issuecomment-375045715 ----==_mimepart_5ab2a1b6b51fd_75882ab37b10eed4140898 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

This seems to be the issue you were targeting with the solution you suggested in #1247.

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True on this being a solution. And, I don't actually care about the si= gning part, which is in another issue.

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Not quite - this is a concern for early auth the other is a concern for extensions - one could solve the other.

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The problem with trying to sign version negotiation is that you don't ha= ve an existing relationship with the server to enable any kind of signing k= ey

That is an assumption. You can easily have a relation with the host even= if that model does not match the current TLS 1.3 / HTTP/QUIC model. For ex= ample that Verisign says that it isn't evil. It just requires a 64 bit veri= sign identifier, and signature. Or you it could be your own server, but vne= g is still a thing due to cluster upgrades.

More generally, this is about being able to add to the vneg for unforsee= n issues in future version.

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= ----==_mimepart_5ab2a4e8261a7_51db2abe8cb82ed02538c-- From nobody Wed Mar 21 11:39:55 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93CEB127871 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2018 11:39:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.605 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.605 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iuPAiLoX7e-f for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2018 11:39:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o3.sgmail.github.com (o3.sgmail.github.com [192.254.112.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2FE1512778D for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2018 11:39:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=E3ivrV3TdBl+2M6IQaItjpZ2f2U=; b=bVboJLh2NTqz7nba huTZ1VaM/FvTDhrQ6BX9cD3NHhniIbnZBGI2H4kRQmWqYQJcxM1o7hNwuKYHbmrx WrCJk9zXK04ISJi2+61XaFWTtNeU6jJFWfKghvM/+iqJXJfbN/dSOz8wU4yDXXa5 lOMAppmg/zfivjn8OQHu9rCTW7g= Received: by filter0084p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0084p1las1-11008-5AB2A6F8-1A 2018-03-21 18:39:52.590347368 +0000 UTC Received: from smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) by ismtpd0002p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id T4ko_8eVQByhvMCfuDgoFA for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2018 18:39:52.544 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2018 18:39:52 +0000 (UTC) From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Add length field to version negotiation packet (invariants) (#1247) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ab2a6f87360e_515f2b05eecceed47356"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak0tTsh1TNlG7kpQSERB5Gi5zySIpvl+XBgNqQ BRlMI+LwiH9jvR4UCA+lWLdFtM2FA2LvvZnC3Y+D8UTjPg/4ZYeLUcp23lZlNQ79d5XyqAAQpefcKR GayDrheeicOeH0bRldLLtfG3guPUQFwX0y7K1CNkUp7E6nhkXKCqA4ZkFV0ZD2KgbznTQhd7IcqQnJ U= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2018 18:39:55 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ab2a6f87360e_515f2b05eecceed47356 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit But both Mike and Ian are right - it is a proposed solution to an extension issue - changing the version number from 0 to something else is another option. I just worry that people will start to hack pseudo version numbers in the version table to carry additional data (a sort of TLV as Lars suggests), so overall, adding a length field seems to be the least intrusive form - it would allow random data to follow and it could ossify, but so could pseudo versions. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1247#issuecomment-375052842 ----==_mimepart_5ab2a6f87360e_515f2b05eecceed47356 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

But both Mike and Ian are right - it is a proposed solution to an extens= ion issue - changing the version number from 0 to something else is another= option.

I just worry that people will start to hack pseudo version numbers in th= e version table to carry additional data (a sort of TLV as Lars suggests), = so overall, adding a length field seems to be the least intrusive form - it= would allow random data to follow and it could ossify, but so could pseudo= versions.

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I'm ok with adding a length and leaving the remaining payload for future use, such as signatures.

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Do we need to change the invariants for that?
It seems like we could achieve this by adding a length field to the Long Header.

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Noting the discussion in London, interpreting the data after the version= s will be difficult, unless you get into things like combining the versions= in a specific order having a specific meaning for the follow-on data. It'= s going to end up getting very crufty very fast. See also the experience wi= th TLS 1.0 on this.

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Closing this in deference to #1246 (this is a specific proposal for that issue, and better expressed as a comment on that issue, or a PR).

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Is this related to #630?
Maybe we can solve both by adding a length field to the Long Header.

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----==_mimepart_5ab37af048f6b_79a52af9f1764ed41232d9-- From nobody Thu Mar 22 02:47:27 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86706126C89 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2018 02:47:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.392 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.392 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RROZZBgd1PK2 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2018 02:47:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o9.sgmail.github.com (o9.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 901A2126C19 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2018 02:47:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=2lFqbz+3lv22KtS46PJ3MiysFaE=; b=g6ezjfeuMnnbI/la y6Hm/NpfRjsbDAvPudMiIP611YIux/bSeA9sul9vxJ0zZw+9+SEw7l3+VMUfTMKt q84XM6W3wmuyuCs9tA2wWnRTQQkR5/6R540+npkLdD1PQcEa6GUX1i6Vjtu6Xz9y 66qAr5NUswHF+fM/TuX5D5ubiWk= Received: by filter0220p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0220p1las1-30958-5AB37BAB-19 2018-03-22 09:47:23.863851641 +0000 UTC Received: from smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) by ismtpd0003p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id FvuebxT-R7CrG4wuKqN5Gg for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2018 09:47:23.794 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 09:47:23 +0000 (UTC) From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] handshake and 0rtt data in a single packet (#630) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ab37baba34e6_46bd2ad795836ed014481e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak2beEP/nhcgDBuyvdsrH097HFNwbDdaRbinfh NafvvErKYiznSaZwYdq3Y4HRe7VhHzK19WBJ4j1pCMyMpH26wPLjQXI4nS9teEKiaFRZw11RO7Hcyw 6loZhdw/aHR/0UuyMgQmdNZXSEPlc4VNTpu6dfm2Ea1DY9nHg5e+PoAvfkOlztUpe8iIfKy0JkpGr6 U= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 09:47:25 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ab37baba34e6_46bd2ad795836ed014481e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit No, this doesn't modify the invariants. We'd just define additional packet types for v1 which have a length + additional packet to follow. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/630#issuecomment-375237332 ----==_mimepart_5ab37baba34e6_46bd2ad795836ed014481e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

No, this doesn't modify the invariants. We'd just define additional packet types for v1 which have a length + additional packet to follow.

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@marten-seemann, yes, but the implied fix for #630 does not necessarily alter the invariants.

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Discussed at editors' meeting. We seemed to agree on something like opti= on 4, with some specific rules: create "compound packet types" which have a= length, and encode HS+0RTT and HS+1RTT long header packet types.
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@kazuho : = Would you be interested in driving this? Would you be able to write up a PR= with a proposed design (use the one above if you like that design) and pro= pose to the wg?

I can handle that, but should we create a PR for this issue now?

I think that the design decision might change based on if we will be hav= ing separate packet number space for handshake and protected packets.

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= ----==_mimepart_5ab37c57494c9_5a222b20dd1e2ed0938ab-- From nobody Thu Mar 22 03:07:41 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FB39127873 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2018 03:07:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zESxcsBKvzru for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2018 03:07:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 366CA12E8E2 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2018 03:07:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 03:07:32 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1521713252; bh=nXHVROP4UFUsOHGXZ7sveOc3B/OhCmdu10eTbCtpHoQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Po7rWcTgQBsLyxiDo5MTxFv56jTtzGiI64sFu5JrA7j1v/yu0j33YqmdRNjBTJVmy OrAEvfPjvfaWzz1+0qJd/zB+IS/wU7SlNu0wVMWpVN0OTwG9djjfYdSbvIff4K8YkD HlZHetxKWf3ru9BpSVJdA3WEC4++OfNxIiDwJA1s= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] handshake and 0rtt data in a single packet (#630) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ab3806451629_72433feccae98f305889a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 10:07:40 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ab3806451629_72433feccae98f305889a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm happy to see a PR. I'm happy adding a length to the INITIAL and HANDSHAKE packet types and then another packet type could be put in the same packet. I'd rather not repeat connection ID(s) because I don't believe it's possible for them to be different, but given I think we're heading for different PN spaces for unencrypted and encrypted packets, repeating the PN portion is important. The negative of this is that the second packet type is a special case because you have to know it doesn't include connection IDs. But if you include them, it's a waste of space and redundant. I think I prefer a special case over redundant information that may not match, but that's me. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/630#issuecomment-375243126 ----==_mimepart_5ab3806451629_72433feccae98f305889a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I'm happy to see a PR.

I'm happy adding a length to the INITIAL and HANDSHAKE packet types an= d then another packet type could be put in the same packet. I'd rather n= ot repeat connection ID(s) because I don't believe it's possible for them= to be different, but given I think we're heading for different PN spaces= for unencrypted and encrypted packets, repeating the PN portion is impor= tant.

The negative of this is that the second packet type is a special case = because you have to know it doesn't include connection IDs. But if you i= nclude them, it's a waste of space and redundant. I think I prefer a spe= cial case over redundant information that may not match, but that's me.

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Wasting space is hardly a concern in packets of 1280 bytes in length t= hat are likely padded? And for long certs, if you need multiple packets, = CID is hardly going to be the deciding factor. So I'd say keep the packet= formats unchanged.

I would assume the packet number increases in the second packet added = to the same MTU, no?

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Please resolve the inconsistencies when MSS is not default size. Both large and small MSS causes unintended behaviour here. > @@ -955,15 +955,9 @@ Constants used in congestion control are based on a combination of RFCs, papers, and common practice. Some may need to be changed or negotiated in order to better suit a variety of environments. -kDefaultMss (default 1460 bytes): -: The default max packet size used for calculating default and minimum - congestion windows. - -kInitialWindow (default 10 * kDefaultMss): -: Default limit on the amount of outstanding data in bytes. - -kMinimumWindow (default 2 * kDefaultMss): -: Default minimum congestion window. +kInitialWindow (default 14600 bytes): +: Default limit on the initial amount of outstanding data in bytes. I would note that RFC 6928 states the following as the TCP initial window: More precisely, the upper bound for the initial window will be min (10*MSS, max (2*MSS, 14600)) (1) I would recommend that one do calculate this value for the Initial value, as MSS may be based on a 9K MTU, thus allowing two full packets in those cases. > @@ -955,15 +955,9 @@ Constants used in congestion control are based on a combination of RFCs, papers, and common practice. Some may need to be changed or negotiated in order to better suit a variety of environments. -kDefaultMss (default 1460 bytes): -: The default max packet size used for calculating default and minimum - congestion windows. - -kInitialWindow (default 10 * kDefaultMss): -: Default limit on the amount of outstanding data in bytes. - -kMinimumWindow (default 2 * kDefaultMss): -: Default minimum congestion window. +kInitialWindow (default 14600 bytes): +: Default limit on the initial amount of outstanding data in bytes. Also if mss is smaller than 1460 then more than 10 packets can be sent. Is that intentional? I am slightly worried about packet bursts. Are there a pacing requirement? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1245#pullrequestreview-106079821 ----==_mimepart_5ab398428d5dd_7aa73f9da47eef38294b2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@gloinul commented on this pull request.

Please resolve the inconsistencies when MSS is not default size. Both large and small MSS causes unintended behaviour here.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -955,15 +955,9 @@ Constants used in congestion control are based on a combination of RFCs,
 papers, and common practice.  Some may need to be changed or negotiated
 in order to better suit a variety of environments.
 
-kDefaultMss (default 1460 bytes):
-: The default max packet size used for calculating default and minimum
-  congestion windows.
-
-kInitialWindow (default 10 * kDefaultMss):
-: Default limit on the amount of outstanding data in bytes.
-
-kMinimumWindow (default 2 * kDefaultMss):
-: Default minimum congestion window.
+kInitialWindow (default 14600 bytes):
+: Default limit on the initial amount of outstanding data in bytes.

I would note that RFC 6928 states the following as the TCP initial window:

More precisely, the upper bound for the initial window will be

     min (10*MSS, max (2*MSS, 14600))                            (1)

I would recommend that one do calculate this value for the Initial value, as MSS may be based on a 9K MTU, thus allowing two full packets in those cases.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -955,15 +955,9 @@ Constants used in congestion control are based on a combination of RFCs,
 papers, and common practice.  Some may need to be changed or negotiated
 in order to better suit a variety of environments.
 
-kDefaultMss (default 1460 bytes):
-: The default max packet size used for calculating default and minimum
-  congestion windows.
-
-kInitialWindow (default 10 * kDefaultMss):
-: Default limit on the amount of outstanding data in bytes.
-
-kMinimumWindow (default 2 * kDefaultMss):
-: Default minimum congestion window.
+kInitialWindow (default 14600 bytes):
+: Default limit on the initial amount of outstanding data in bytes.

Also if mss is smaller than 1460 then more than 10 packets can be sent. Is that intentional? I am slightly worried about packet bursts. Are there a pacing requirement?

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----==_mimepart_5ab3c4ce51d7e_26c2aca85ff6ed01274d-- From nobody Thu Mar 22 11:06:50 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9E39127077 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2018 11:06:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.393 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.393 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2spUY-i2b_5i for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2018 11:06:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D01ED1200A0 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2018 11:06:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 11:06:45 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1521742005; bh=pkYxRyQ2pa6D5nDSjEmEqvyURVRNBHBmHm31tnWRLzM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=1JY4+yoNDU6JjVL88rflxVmYC9TByQX19lGgeEbd8bkc/tPY+nm4FDL9yQgbHo4Oq w3+lRdow3DqKAChaeUNSuVe4IfZfKq10o4iQ1o9sHLKM3wL8PjPzXcR9JatlkXP0Q0 TET8Pwz6QZk52k6XnjdtKXqodh7O1t7mV5E0sKi4= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] handshake and 0rtt data in a single packet (#630) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ab3f0b5d7ed7_6c402af0834e2ed063568"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 18:06:49 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ab3f0b5d7ed7_6c402af0834e2ed063568 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Wasting space is hardly a concern in packets of 1280 bytes in length that are likely padded? One common case where the space becomes precious is when you are doing 0 RTT, and the server tries to use a compound packet to send ServerHello...ServerFinished and the response in 0.5 RTT. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/630#issuecomment-375404629 ----==_mimepart_5ab3f0b5d7ed7_6c402af0834e2ed063568 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Fixes Issue #903

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Commit Summary

  • Fix OnPacketAcked

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----==_mimepart_5ab84a15e46b0_58b42ac8e2ddaed418637e8-- From nobody Sun Mar 25 18:17:39 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35036126BF3 for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 18:17:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.607 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.607 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id y4xWPmqF7y-e for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 18:17:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CAE2E1242EA for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 18:17:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2018 18:17:35 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1522027055; bh=t0EZoF0PM19jfrZ0ULH9etlN4IgNSnI/lDJKRlmtiJE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=I5M8QW6qTS3EtkxMabKGwkHnP/7RVYZO0rbK/jldRFMevxztehU2flLinn7MbnUjk 03NpKbjsDrA0lwX/sBASxMpmS1BBwI9X9GpFa85h1+fc2QKPON0g434UHpRmFO2i0M lA2aTOZzC3qpA+4Xc+xWYcCMM2ieOK+ieTt77yh0= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] in_flight inconsistency (#903) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ab84a2f3a602_7de22b08a94f2ec82968f3"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 01:17:37 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ab84a2f3a602_7de22b08a94f2ec82968f3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The packets_lost issue was fixed by PR #1223 and I just sent out PR #1248 to fix the rest. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/903#issuecomment-376020516 ----==_mimepart_5ab84a2f3a602_7de22b08a94f2ec82968f3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The packets_lost issue was fixed by PR #1223 and I just sent out PR #1248 to fix the rest.

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This was discussed in London, and there seemed to be a strong sense int he room that we didn't want to do this. Further comments?

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I originally had two issues, one was extensibility and the other was the= related public signing in future versions. I tend to agree that extensible= vneg can get messy fast, but the lack of any hook to sign such messages is= also unfortunate. I would likely create a non-standard extension.

Ian has mentioned that we could use a different version number for futur= e vnegs - which is a decent approach. However, I believe something must be = mentioned about this in the invariants. For example that clients may opt to= ignore version 0 vnegs in favor of a future defined version when and if on= e such is defined. Lacking that it should adhere to version 0. Servers like= wise.

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= ----==_mimepart_5ab8f1aa77001_7ab82ab09c9ccecc5460-- From nobody Mon Mar 26 06:29:01 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43852127419 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2018 06:28:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rOTeY4xAc6Qz for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2018 06:28:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 70351127369 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2018 06:28:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 06:28:56 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1522070936; bh=nhbXbpoWkjNpB8l4TOHcmUJDEsxsUbrwhAzZRDuGp+4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=dr472r8rw8aD5IlHqcqzMBWtfimTgQW3oJb3TQS8aevBxfnTsJrUB0YJ6oGee6UfV 0AYWahcEmGxemmk8xdiUsDtm1mwr6rnQQN+n0VRXWJ5dwXlFcrJAOi2/3wEc3NtL2X YBS2N2CPgP8JB+ynFBqIJuuosK43e13PmTnaZFFQ= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Packet number encryption (#1079) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ab8f59829ea5_60f82ac7c94f6ecc56486"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 13:28:59 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ab8f59829ea5_60f82ac7c94f6ecc56486 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I mentioned a variation of this design on the mailing list but thought it better to make a note here as well. 1. The packet number is removed from the header and the AEAD protected content. This is safe because the packet number is the IV for AEAD. 2. The last 16 octets of the AEAD message (typically the full tag) is AES encrypted using a traffic key derived for this purpose. 3. The encrypted tag value is truncated to the length of the packet number and the packet number is encrypted by XOR'ed with this value. 4. The encrypted packet number is appended to the packet content after the AEAD tag. 5. The lenght of the packet number must be known. It can be fixed length, the length can be stored in the packet header, or it could be variable length with the last octet remainting some unencrypted bits. The packet number is not useful without the tag and the tag is not useful without the packet number so it makes sense to store them together, typically in a single cache line. This also speaks for keeping the packet number length encoded last if not fixed length. This approach avoids any modification to the AEAD packet content which can therefore be decoded without modification which is both good for hardware offload and is cache and synchronization friendly for multi-processor systems. The approach does not consume more space than an unencrypted packet number. Due to the linear dependency of packet number encryption there is an estimated latency of 24ns on current hardware because AES cannot take advantage of parallel operations. However, if there are multiple queued packets it might be possible to have the packet number decrypted efficiently by feeding the AES pipeline from multiple packets and then sending the result to the relevant receiving thread, all without additional bus traffic cause by buffer modifications. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1079#issuecomment-376165638 ----==_mimepart_5ab8f59829ea5_60f82ac7c94f6ecc56486 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I mentioned a variation of this design on the mailing list but thought= it better to make a note here as well.

  1. The packet number is removed from the header and the AEAD protected c= ontent. This is safe because the packet number is the IV for AEAD.
  2. The last 16 octets of the AEAD message (typically the full tag) is AE= S encrypted using a traffic key derived for this purpose.
  3. The encrypted tag value is truncated to the length of the packet numb= er and the packet number is encrypted by XOR'ed with this value.
  4. The encrypted packet number is appended to the packet content after t= he AEAD tag.
  5. The lenght of the packet number must be known. It can be fixed length= , the length can be stored in the packet header, or it could be variable = length with the last octet remainting some unencrypted bits.

The packet number is not useful without the tag and the tag is not use= ful without the packet number so it makes sense to store them together, t= ypically in a single cache line. This also speaks for keeping the packet = number length encoded last if not fixed length.

This approach avoids any modification to the AEAD packet content which= can therefore be decoded without modification which is both good for har= dware offload and is cache and synchronization friendly for multi-process= or systems.

The approach does not consume more space than an unencrypted packet nu= mber.
Due to the linear dependency of packet number encryption there is an esti= mated latency of 24ns on current hardware because AES cannot take advanta= ge of parallel operations. However, if there are multiple queued packets = it might be possible to have the packet number decrypted efficiently by f= eeding the AES pipeline from multiple packets and then sending the result= to the relevant receiving thread, all without additional bus traffic cau= se by buffer modifications.

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= ----==_mimepart_5ab8f59829ea5_60f82ac7c94f6ecc56486-- From nobody Mon Mar 26 06:43:14 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 895B612751F for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2018 06:43:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.011 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.011 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5mBHjZgB1cut for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2018 06:43:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o7.sgmail.github.com (o7.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C27DD127419 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2018 06:43:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=tKWvORvl7Qhe+8xkjr8Y0FzoOzU=; b=jTlIDkBR9feAARW6 3+Twuof5bLNXkSeGiXoh4d3x9p+4gml+SebJhoEwefV3roF0Lpk9kRHqzArSE4uO JpzVyF3ZRbkpxbFIZhk2OfnLuyQ3K0Q8fQrMAmt7gW68RKqqhnuAj2qz3sLXs9bT 3WavpEYc8hFEWGWI/lk9MYyFUPU= Received: by filter0591p1mdw1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0591p1mdw1-10577-5AB8F8EC-26 2018-03-26 13:43:08.564238555 +0000 UTC Received: from smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) by ismtpd0011p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id saEuALhbSO23H8civQH8EA for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2018 13:43:08.455 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 13:43:08 +0000 (UTC) From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Packet number encryption (#1079) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ab8f8ec64442_39b42b28f9916ed020754b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak1ElylMdBJifqxeZZFV6IGqlUVrb3tcLgbzqd YCiHJ+CEJ1BjnEr6dI40/p2TPHUJk7FaaEh7NaGjdQUut+RX0Aj+GAa0Vq9AlVzMc69I3uF2alzfFa dC6aFUrns3DM0VsTslBEujD3BOxrhA7r0hWEqnR6XoQuw6kGLQupZAJ9zicT7frn4kGV3dTuYbdKpK I= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 13:43:12 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ab8f8ec64442_39b42b28f9916ed020754b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The above modification helps CPU cache but it does not helpware hardware that wants to decrypt while receiving data before the entire packet has been seen. This can be achieved by moving the encrypted packet number before the AEAD content, and therefore before the packet header. The packet number would use the first encrypted bytes of the packet rather than the AEAD tag. This is not as clean, but it would allow processing to start before the full packet has been seen. Additionally, if a 1 octet checksum is added to the packet number, the packet number decryption could very quickly reject random packet content. This addtional benefit could pay for the addtional encryption overhead in DoS rejection. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1079#issuecomment-376170252 ----==_mimepart_5ab8f8ec64442_39b42b28f9916ed020754b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The above modification helps CPU cache but it does not helpware hardware= that wants to decrypt while receiving data before the entire packet has be= en seen.

This can be achieved by moving the encrypted packet number before the AE= AD content, and therefore before the packet header. The packet number would= use the first encrypted bytes of the packet rather than the AEAD tag.

This is not as clean, but it would allow processing to start before the = full packet has been seen.
Additionally, if a 1 octet checksum is added to the packet number, the pack= et number decryption could very quickly reject random packet content. This = addtional benefit could pay for the addtional encryption overhead in DoS re= jection.

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Closes #880 and #1012. Moved #1012 here because unicorns are not nice. This PR describes a more complete connection migration design, including: - Allowing an endpoint to probe alternate paths without having to use them for data. - Ensure that an endpoint validates peer ownership of a new address. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1249 -- Commit Summary -- * Create new branch for migration PR (#1012) because unicorns are not nice. * remove overview. again. * sync * fix rebase -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (414) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1249.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1249.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Closes #880 and #1012.

Moved #1012 here because unicorns are not nice.

This PR describes a more complete connection migration design, including:

  • Allowing an endpoint to probe alternate paths without having to use them for data.
  • Ensure that an endpoint validates peer ownership of a new address.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1249

Commit Summary

  • Create new branch for migration PR (#1012) because unicorns are not nice.
  • remove overview. again.
  • sync
  • fix rebase

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Some nits, nothing major. I'll probably land and fix if you don't get around to it. > ## Connection Migration {#migration} -A QUIC connection can be identified using the Destination Connection ID included -in packets. QUIC's consistent connection ID allows connections to survive -changes to the client's IP and/or port, such as those caused by client or server -migrating to a new network. Connection migration allows a client to retain any -shared state with a connection when they move networks. This includes state -that can be hard to recover such as outstanding requests, which might otherwise -be lost with no easy way to retry them. +QUIC allows connections to survive changes to endpoint addresses (that is, IP +address and/or port), such as those caused by a endpoint migrating to a new +network. This section describes the process by which an endpoint migrates to a +new address. + +An endpoint MUST NOT initiate connection migration before the handshake is +finished and the endpoint has 1-RTT keys. Let's say that the handshake is complete instead. Otherwise the server can migrate too soon. > + +An endpoint MAY probe for peer reachability from a new local address using path +validation {{migrate-validate}} prior to migrating the connection to the new +local address. Failure of path validation simply means that the new path is not +usable for this connection. Failure to validate a path does not cause the +connection to end unless there are no valid alternative paths available. + +An endpoint uses a new connection ID for probes sent from a new local address, +see {{migration-linkability}} for further discussion. + +Receiving a PATH_CHALLENGE frame from a peer indicates that the peer is probing +for reachability on a path. An endpoint sends a PATH_RESPONSE in response as per +{{migrate-validate}}. + +PATH_CHALLENGE, PATH_RESPONSE, and PADDING frames are "probing" frames. If an +endpoint has received packets containing only these frames from a given peer "Until an endpoint receives packets containing other frames from a given peer address, it MUST NOT [...]" > -An endpoint MUST validate that its peer can receive packets at the new address -before sending any significant quantity of data to that address, or it risks -being used for denial of service. See {{migrate-validate}} for details. +However, the new path might not support the endpoint's current sending s/However/When migrating/ > -An endpoint MUST validate that its peer can receive packets at the new address -before sending any significant quantity of data to that address, or it risks -being used for denial of service. See {{migrate-validate}} for details. +However, the new path might not support the endpoint's current sending +rate. Therefore, the endpoint resets its congestion controller, as described in +{{migration-cc}}. + +Receiving acknowledgments for this data serves as proof of the peer's s/this data/data sent on the new path/ > +validation tokens ({{address-validation}}) to the client. + + +#### Handling Address Spoofing by a Peer {#address-spoofing} + +It is possible that a peer is spoofing its source address to cause an endpoint +to send excessive amounts of data to an unwilling host. If the endpoint sends +significantly more data than the spoofing peer, connection migration might be +used to amplify the volume of data that an attacker can generate toward a +victim. + +As described in {{migration-response}}, an endpoint is required to validate a +peer's new address to confirm the peer's possession of the new address. Until a +peer's address is deemed valid, an endpoint MUST limit the rate at which it +sends data to this address. The endpoint MUST NOT send more than a minimum +congestion window's worth of data per estimated round-trip time (as defined in mention kMinimumWindow > +to send excessive amounts of data to an unwilling host. If the endpoint sends +significantly more data than the spoofing peer, connection migration might be +used to amplify the volume of data that an attacker can generate toward a +victim. + +As described in {{migration-response}}, an endpoint is required to validate a +peer's new address to confirm the peer's possession of the new address. Until a +peer's address is deemed valid, an endpoint MUST limit the rate at which it +sends data to this address. The endpoint MUST NOT send more than a minimum +congestion window's worth of data per estimated round-trip time (as defined in +{{QUIC-RECOVERY}}). In the absence of this limit, an endpoint risks being used +for a denial of service attack against an unsuspecting victim. Note that since +the endpoint will not have any round-trip time measurements to this address, the +estimate SHOULD be the default initial value (see {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}). + +An endpoint SHOULD NOT apply this rate limit when the endpoint skips validation Remove the "SHOULD NOT" (no interop requirement here). Maybe: If an endpoint skips validation of a peer address as described in {{migration-responses}}, it does not need to limit its sending rate. > +congestion window's worth of data per estimated round-trip time (as defined in +{{QUIC-RECOVERY}}). In the absence of this limit, an endpoint risks being used +for a denial of service attack against an unsuspecting victim. Note that since +the endpoint will not have any round-trip time measurements to this address, the +estimate SHOULD be the default initial value (see {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}). + +An endpoint SHOULD NOT apply this rate limit when the endpoint skips validation +of the peer's address, as described in {{migration-response}}. + + +#### Handling Address Spoofing by an On-path Attacker {#on-path-spoofing} + +An on-path attacker could cause a spurious connection migration by capturing and +forwarding a packet such that it arrives before the legitimate copy of that +packet. Such a packet will appear to be a legitimate connection migration and +the legitimate copy will be dropped as a duplicate. After a spurious migration, Two uses of "legitimate" s/the legitimate copy will be dropped as a duplicate/the original packet appears to be a duplicate and will be dropped/ > +the endpoint will not have any round-trip time measurements to this address, the +estimate SHOULD be the default initial value (see {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}). + +An endpoint SHOULD NOT apply this rate limit when the endpoint skips validation +of the peer's address, as described in {{migration-response}}. + + +#### Handling Address Spoofing by an On-path Attacker {#on-path-spoofing} + +An on-path attacker could cause a spurious connection migration by capturing and +forwarding a packet such that it arrives before the legitimate copy of that +packet. Such a packet will appear to be a legitimate connection migration and +the legitimate copy will be dropped as a duplicate. After a spurious migration, +validation of the source address will fail because the entity at the source +address does not have the necessary cryptographic keys to read or respond to the +PATH_CHALLENGE frame that is sent to it, even if it wanted to. drop from the comma > ### Privacy Implications of Connection Migration {#migration-linkability} + Oops -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1249#pullrequestreview-107115409 ----==_mimepart_5ab9917623dc4_2ad493ff3e7f6af3410083a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@martinthomson approved this pull request.

Some nits, nothing major. I'll probably land and fix if you don't get around to it.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  ## Connection Migration {#migration}
 
-A QUIC connection can be identified using the Destination Connection ID included
-in packets.  QUIC's consistent connection ID allows connections to survive
-changes to the client's IP and/or port, such as those caused by client or server
-migrating to a new network.  Connection migration allows a client to retain any
-shared state with a connection when they move networks.  This includes state
-that can be hard to recover such as outstanding requests, which might otherwise
-be lost with no easy way to retry them.
+QUIC allows connections to survive changes to endpoint addresses (that is, IP
+address and/or port), such as those caused by a endpoint migrating to a new
+network.  This section describes the process by which an endpoint migrates to a
+new address.
+
+An endpoint MUST NOT initiate connection migration before the handshake is
+finished and the endpoint has 1-RTT keys.

Let's say that the handshake is complete instead. Otherwise the server can migrate too soon.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+An endpoint MAY probe for peer reachability from a new local address using path
+validation {{migrate-validate}} prior to migrating the connection to the new
+local address.  Failure of path validation simply means that the new path is not
+usable for this connection.  Failure to validate a path does not cause the
+connection to end unless there are no valid alternative paths available.
+
+An endpoint uses a new connection ID for probes sent from a new local address,
+see {{migration-linkability}} for further discussion.
+
+Receiving a PATH_CHALLENGE frame from a peer indicates that the peer is probing
+for reachability on a path. An endpoint sends a PATH_RESPONSE in response as per
+{{migrate-validate}}.
+
+PATH_CHALLENGE, PATH_RESPONSE, and PADDING frames are "probing" frames. If an
+endpoint has received packets containing only these frames from a given peer

"Until an endpoint receives packets containing other frames from a given peer address, it MUST NOT [...]"

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-An endpoint MUST validate that its peer can receive packets at the new address
-before sending any significant quantity of data to that address, or it risks
-being used for denial of service.  See {{migrate-validate}} for details.
+However, the new path might not support the endpoint's current sending

s/However/When migrating/

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-An endpoint MUST validate that its peer can receive packets at the new address
-before sending any significant quantity of data to that address, or it risks
-being used for denial of service.  See {{migrate-validate}} for details.
+However, the new path might not support the endpoint's current sending
+rate. Therefore, the endpoint resets its congestion controller, as described in
+{{migration-cc}}.
+
+Receiving acknowledgments for this data serves as proof of the peer's

s/this data/data sent on the new path/

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +validation tokens ({{address-validation}}) to the client.
+
+
+#### Handling Address Spoofing by a Peer {#address-spoofing}
+
+It is possible that a peer is spoofing its source address to cause an endpoint
+to send excessive amounts of data to an unwilling host.  If the endpoint sends
+significantly more data than the spoofing peer, connection migration might be
+used to amplify the volume of data that an attacker can generate toward a
+victim.
+
+As described in {{migration-response}}, an endpoint is required to validate a
+peer's new address to confirm the peer's possession of the new address.  Until a
+peer's address is deemed valid, an endpoint MUST limit the rate at which it
+sends data to this address.  The endpoint MUST NOT send more than a minimum
+congestion window's worth of data per estimated round-trip time (as defined in

mention kMinimumWindow

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +to send excessive amounts of data to an unwilling host.  If the endpoint sends
+significantly more data than the spoofing peer, connection migration might be
+used to amplify the volume of data that an attacker can generate toward a
+victim.
+
+As described in {{migration-response}}, an endpoint is required to validate a
+peer's new address to confirm the peer's possession of the new address.  Until a
+peer's address is deemed valid, an endpoint MUST limit the rate at which it
+sends data to this address.  The endpoint MUST NOT send more than a minimum
+congestion window's worth of data per estimated round-trip time (as defined in
+{{QUIC-RECOVERY}}).  In the absence of this limit, an endpoint risks being used
+for a denial of service attack against an unsuspecting victim.  Note that since
+the endpoint will not have any round-trip time measurements to this address, the
+estimate SHOULD be the default initial value (see {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}).
+
+An endpoint SHOULD NOT apply this rate limit when the endpoint skips validation

Remove the "SHOULD NOT" (no interop requirement here). Maybe:

If an endpoint skips validation of a peer address as described in {{migration-responses}}, it does not need to limit its sending rate.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +congestion window's worth of data per estimated round-trip time (as defined in
+{{QUIC-RECOVERY}}).  In the absence of this limit, an endpoint risks being used
+for a denial of service attack against an unsuspecting victim.  Note that since
+the endpoint will not have any round-trip time measurements to this address, the
+estimate SHOULD be the default initial value (see {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}).
+
+An endpoint SHOULD NOT apply this rate limit when the endpoint skips validation
+of the peer's address, as described in {{migration-response}}.
+
+
+#### Handling Address Spoofing by an On-path Attacker {#on-path-spoofing}
+
+An on-path attacker could cause a spurious connection migration by capturing and
+forwarding a packet such that it arrives before the legitimate copy of that
+packet.  Such a packet will appear to be a legitimate connection migration and
+the legitimate copy will be dropped as a duplicate. After a spurious migration,

Two uses of "legitimate"

s/the legitimate copy will be dropped as a duplicate/the original packet appears to be a duplicate and will be dropped/

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +the endpoint will not have any round-trip time measurements to this address, the
+estimate SHOULD be the default initial value (see {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}).
+
+An endpoint SHOULD NOT apply this rate limit when the endpoint skips validation
+of the peer's address, as described in {{migration-response}}.
+
+
+#### Handling Address Spoofing by an On-path Attacker {#on-path-spoofing}
+
+An on-path attacker could cause a spurious connection migration by capturing and
+forwarding a packet such that it arrives before the legitimate copy of that
+packet.  Such a packet will appear to be a legitimate connection migration and
+the legitimate copy will be dropped as a duplicate. After a spurious migration,
+validation of the source address will fail because the entity at the source
+address does not have the necessary cryptographic keys to read or respond to the
+PATH_CHALLENGE frame that is sent to it, even if it wanted to.

drop from the comma

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 
 ### Privacy Implications of Connection Migration {#migration-linkability}
 
+

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@enygren suggests:

Would it make sense to say that "endpoints exchange QUIC packets via a datagram protocol such as UDP"? While we are currently only defining on UDP, there is nothing in invariants that would force this perpetually.

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Thanks, Martin, changes made.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  ## Connection Migration {#migration}
 
-A QUIC connection can be identified using the Destination Connection ID included
-in packets.  QUIC's consistent connection ID allows connections to survive
-changes to the client's IP and/or port, such as those caused by client or server
-migrating to a new network.  Connection migration allows a client to retain any
-shared state with a connection when they move networks.  This includes state
-that can be hard to recover such as outstanding requests, which might otherwise
-be lost with no easy way to retry them.
+QUIC allows connections to survive changes to endpoint addresses (that is, IP
+address and/or port), such as those caused by a endpoint migrating to a new
+network.  This section describes the process by which an endpoint migrates to a
+new address.
+
+An endpoint MUST NOT initiate connection migration before the handshake is
+finished and the endpoint has 1-RTT keys.

I don't follow. It does say "the handshake is finished". What change are you suggesting?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  ## Connection Migration {#migration}
 
-A QUIC connection can be identified using the Destination Connection ID included
-in packets.  QUIC's consistent connection ID allows connections to survive
-changes to the client's IP and/or port, such as those caused by client or server
-migrating to a new network.  Connection migration allows a client to retain any
-shared state with a connection when they move networks.  This includes state
-that can be hard to recover such as outstanding requests, which might otherwise
-be lost with no easy way to retry them.
+QUIC allows connections to survive changes to endpoint addresses (that is, IP
+address and/or port), such as those caused by a endpoint migrating to a new
+network.  This section describes the process by which an endpoint migrates to a
+new address.
+
+An endpoint MUST NOT initiate connection migration before the handshake is
+finished and the endpoint has 1-RTT keys.

1-RTT keys != handshake finished, at least for a server.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  ## Connection Migration {#migration}
 
-A QUIC connection can be identified using the Destination Connection ID included
-in packets.  QUIC's consistent connection ID allows connections to survive
-changes to the client's IP and/or port, such as those caused by client or server
-migrating to a new network.  Connection migration allows a client to retain any
-shared state with a connection when they move networks.  This includes state
-that can be hard to recover such as outstanding requests, which might otherwise
-be lost with no easy way to retry them.
+QUIC allows connections to survive changes to endpoint addresses (that is, IP
+address and/or port), such as those caused by a endpoint migrating to a new
+network.  This section describes the process by which an endpoint migrates to a
+new address.
+
+An endpoint MUST NOT initiate connection migration before the handshake is
+finished and the endpoint has 1-RTT keys.

nevermind, misreading on my part

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From the first sentence of the charter: "The QUIC working group will provide a standards-track specification for a UDP-based, stream-multiplexing..."

So I'm biased towards saying this is QUICv2.

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Thanks Jana, this is looking good. > @@ -1451,29 +1454,276 @@ failure. If integrity protection is performed by QUIC, QUIC MUST abort the connection if the integrity check fails with a PROTOCOL_VIOLATION error code. +## Path Validation {#migrate-validate} + +Path validation is used by an endpoint to verify reachability of a peer over a reachability implies only one direction(to me). But I think you want to verify the full path works, correct? Maybe bidirectional reachability or reachabilty in both directions? > @@ -1451,29 +1454,276 @@ failure. If integrity protection is performed by QUIC, QUIC MUST abort the connection if the integrity check fails with a PROTOCOL_VIOLATION error code. +## Path Validation {#migrate-validate} + +Path validation is used by an endpoint to verify reachability of a peer over a +specific path. That is, it tests reachability between a specific local address +and a specific peer address, where an address is the two-tuple of IP address and +port. Path validation tests that packets can be both sent to and received from +a peer. + +Path validation is used during connection migration (see {{migration}}) by the +migrating endpoint to verify reachability of a peer from a new local address. +Path validation is also used by the peer to verify that the migrating endpoint +is able to receive packets sent to the its new address. That is, that the "to the its new" -> "to its new" or "to the new" > @@ -1451,29 +1454,276 @@ failure. If integrity protection is performed by QUIC, QUIC MUST abort the connection if the integrity check fails with a PROTOCOL_VIOLATION error code. +## Path Validation {#migrate-validate} + +Path validation is used by an endpoint to verify reachability of a peer over a +specific path. That is, it tests reachability between a specific local address +and a specific peer address, where an address is the two-tuple of IP address and +port. Path validation tests that packets can be both sent to and received from +a peer. + +Path validation is used during connection migration (see {{migration}}) by the +migrating endpoint to verify reachability of a peer from a new local address. +Path validation is also used by the peer to verify that the migrating endpoint +is able to receive packets sent to the its new address. That is, that the Also, I'd say "This validation ensures the packets received from the migrating endpoint..." > +mechanism described here might be effective for the creation of NAT bindings +that support NAT traversal, the expectation is that one or other peer is able to +receive packets without first having sent a packet on that path. Effective NAT +traversal needs additional synchronization mechanisms that are not provided +here. + +An endpoint MAY bundle PATH_CHALLENGE and PATH_RESPONSE frames that are used for +path validation with other frames. For instance, an endpoint may pad a packet +carrying a PATH_CHALLENGE for PMTU discovery, or an endpoint may bundle a +PATH_RESPONSE with its own PATH_CHALLENGE. + + +### Initiation + +To initiate path validation, an endpoint sends a PATH_CHALLENGE frame containing +a random payload that is hard to guess on the path to be validated. nit: "that is hard to guess" seems redundant to random, so I would remove it. > -A QUIC connection can be identified using the Destination Connection ID included -in packets. QUIC's consistent connection ID allows connections to survive -changes to the client's IP and/or port, such as those caused by client or server -migrating to a new network. Connection migration allows a client to retain any -shared state with a connection when they move networks. This includes state -that can be hard to recover such as outstanding requests, which might otherwise -be lost with no easy way to retry them. +QUIC allows connections to survive changes to endpoint addresses (that is, IP +address and/or port), such as those caused by a endpoint migrating to a new +network. This section describes the process by which an endpoint migrates to a +new address. + +An endpoint MUST NOT initiate connection migration before the handshake is +finished and the endpoint has 1-RTT keys. + +This document limits migration of connections to new client addresses. It seems like this is the only paragraph that's client specific now. Is there a reason to keep this paragraph now? > -An endpoint MUST validate that its peer can receive packets at the new address -before sending any significant quantity of data to that address, or it risks -being used for denial of service. See {{migrate-validate}} for details. +Receiving acknowledgments for data sent on the new path serves as proof of the +peer's reachability from the new address. Note that since acknowledgments may +be received on any path, return reachability on the new path is not +established. To establish return reachability on the new path, an endpoint MAY +concurrently initiate path validation {{migrate-validate}} on the new path. + + +### Responding to Connection Migration {#migration-response} + +Receiving a packet from a new peer address containing a non-probing frame If a packet contains a PATH_CHALLENGE and a STREAM frame, then it contains a non-probing frame, but I don't think the intent is to immediately migrate. How about "Receiving a packet from a new peer address that does not contain a PATH_CHALLENGE frame indicates the peer has migrated to that address." > +validation tokens ({{address-validation}}) to the client. + + +#### Handling Address Spoofing by a Peer {#address-spoofing} + +It is possible that a peer is spoofing its source address to cause an endpoint +to send excessive amounts of data to an unwilling host. If the endpoint sends +significantly more data than the spoofing peer, connection migration might be +used to amplify the volume of data that an attacker can generate toward a +victim. + +As described in {{migration-response}}, an endpoint is required to validate a +peer's new address to confirm the peer's possession of the new address. Until a +peer's address is deemed valid, an endpoint MUST limit the rate at which it +sends data to this address. The endpoint MUST NOT send more than a minimum +congestion window's worth of data per estimated round-trip time (kMinimumWindow, Instead of the minimum window, we could use the limit in response to client initial of 3x, since I think we want migration to be governed by most of the rules of a new connection. > +MAY send a stateless reset in response to any further incoming packets. + +Note that receipt of packets with higher packet numbers from the legitimate peer +address will trigger another connection migration. This will cause the +validation of the address of the spurious migration to be abandoned. + + +### Loss Detection and Congestion Control {#migration-cc} + +The capacity available on the new path might not be the same as the old path. +Packets sent on the old path SHOULD NOT contribute to the state of the +congestion control and RTT estimation on the new path. If it is using a single +congestion controller and round-trip time estimator, the client SHOULD reset +them prior to sending any non-probing packets from a new local address. + +After successful validation of the client's new address, the server SHOULD reset This is almost identical to the end of the paragraph above it. > + +An endpoint MUST NOT return to the send rate used for the previous path unless +it is reasonably sure that the previous send rate is valid for the new path. +For instance, a change in the client's port number is likely indicative of a +rebinding in a middlebox and not a complete change in path. This determination +likely depends on heuristics, which could be imperfect; if the new path capacity +is significantly reduced, ultimately this relies on the congestion controller +responding to congestion signals and reducing send rates appropriately. + +There may be apparent reordering at the receiver when an endpoint sends data and +probes from/to multiple addresses during the migration period, since the two +resulting paths may have different round-trip times. A receiver of packets on +multiple paths will still send ACK frames covering all received packets. + +An endpoint MAY use a single congestion control context and a single loss +recovery context, as described in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}. A sender MAY make MAY -> SHOULD -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Thanks Jana, this is looking good.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1451,29 +1454,276 @@ failure.  If integrity protection is performed by QUIC, QUIC MUST abort the
 connection if the integrity check fails with a PROTOCOL_VIOLATION error code.
 
 
+## Path Validation {#migrate-validate}
+
+Path validation is used by an endpoint to verify reachability of a peer over a

reachability implies only one direction(to me). But I think you want to verify the full path works, correct? Maybe bidirectional reachability or reachabilty in both directions?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1451,29 +1454,276 @@ failure.  If integrity protection is performed by QUIC, QUIC MUST abort the
 connection if the integrity check fails with a PROTOCOL_VIOLATION error code.
 
 
+## Path Validation {#migrate-validate}
+
+Path validation is used by an endpoint to verify reachability of a peer over a
+specific path.  That is, it tests reachability between a specific local address
+and a specific peer address, where an address is the two-tuple of IP address and
+port.  Path validation tests that packets can be both sent to and received from
+a peer.
+
+Path validation is used during connection migration (see {{migration}}) by the
+migrating endpoint to verify reachability of a peer from a new local address.
+Path validation is also used by the peer to verify that the migrating endpoint
+is able to receive packets sent to the its new address.  That is, that the

"to the its new" -> "to its new" or "to the new"

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1451,29 +1454,276 @@ failure.  If integrity protection is performed by QUIC, QUIC MUST abort the
 connection if the integrity check fails with a PROTOCOL_VIOLATION error code.
 
 
+## Path Validation {#migrate-validate}
+
+Path validation is used by an endpoint to verify reachability of a peer over a
+specific path.  That is, it tests reachability between a specific local address
+and a specific peer address, where an address is the two-tuple of IP address and
+port.  Path validation tests that packets can be both sent to and received from
+a peer.
+
+Path validation is used during connection migration (see {{migration}}) by the
+migrating endpoint to verify reachability of a peer from a new local address.
+Path validation is also used by the peer to verify that the migrating endpoint
+is able to receive packets sent to the its new address.  That is, that the

Also, I'd say "This validation ensures the packets received from the migrating endpoint..."

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +mechanism described here might be effective for the creation of NAT bindings
+that support NAT traversal, the expectation is that one or other peer is able to
+receive packets without first having sent a packet on that path. Effective NAT
+traversal needs additional synchronization mechanisms that are not provided
+here.
+
+An endpoint MAY bundle PATH_CHALLENGE and PATH_RESPONSE frames that are used for
+path validation with other frames.  For instance, an endpoint may pad a packet
+carrying a PATH_CHALLENGE for PMTU discovery, or an endpoint may bundle a
+PATH_RESPONSE with its own PATH_CHALLENGE.
+
+
+### Initiation
+
+To initiate path validation, an endpoint sends a PATH_CHALLENGE frame containing
+a random payload that is hard to guess on the path to be validated.

nit: "that is hard to guess" seems redundant to random, so I would remove it.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -A QUIC connection can be identified using the Destination Connection ID included
-in packets.  QUIC's consistent connection ID allows connections to survive
-changes to the client's IP and/or port, such as those caused by client or server
-migrating to a new network.  Connection migration allows a client to retain any
-shared state with a connection when they move networks.  This includes state
-that can be hard to recover such as outstanding requests, which might otherwise
-be lost with no easy way to retry them.
+QUIC allows connections to survive changes to endpoint addresses (that is, IP
+address and/or port), such as those caused by a endpoint migrating to a new
+network.  This section describes the process by which an endpoint migrates to a
+new address.
+
+An endpoint MUST NOT initiate connection migration before the handshake is
+finished and the endpoint has 1-RTT keys.
+
+This document limits migration of connections to new client addresses.

It seems like this is the only paragraph that's client specific now. Is there a reason to keep this paragraph now?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-An endpoint MUST validate that its peer can receive packets at the new address
-before sending any significant quantity of data to that address, or it risks
-being used for denial of service.  See {{migrate-validate}} for details.
+Receiving acknowledgments for data sent on the new path serves as proof of the
+peer's reachability from the new address.  Note that since acknowledgments may
+be received on any path, return reachability on the new path is not
+established. To establish return reachability on the new path, an endpoint MAY
+concurrently initiate path validation {{migrate-validate}} on the new path.
+
+
+### Responding to Connection Migration {#migration-response}
+
+Receiving a packet from a new peer address containing a non-probing frame

If a packet contains a PATH_CHALLENGE and a STREAM frame, then it contains a non-probing frame, but I don't think the intent is to immediately migrate.

How about "Receiving a packet from a new peer address that does not contain a PATH_CHALLENGE frame indicates the peer has migrated to that address."

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +validation tokens ({{address-validation}}) to the client.
+
+
+#### Handling Address Spoofing by a Peer {#address-spoofing}
+
+It is possible that a peer is spoofing its source address to cause an endpoint
+to send excessive amounts of data to an unwilling host.  If the endpoint sends
+significantly more data than the spoofing peer, connection migration might be
+used to amplify the volume of data that an attacker can generate toward a
+victim.
+
+As described in {{migration-response}}, an endpoint is required to validate a
+peer's new address to confirm the peer's possession of the new address.  Until a
+peer's address is deemed valid, an endpoint MUST limit the rate at which it
+sends data to this address.  The endpoint MUST NOT send more than a minimum
+congestion window's worth of data per estimated round-trip time (kMinimumWindow,

Instead of the minimum window, we could use the limit in response to client initial of 3x, since I think we want migration to be governed by most of the rules of a new connection.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +MAY send a stateless reset in response to any further incoming packets.
+
+Note that receipt of packets with higher packet numbers from the legitimate peer
+address will trigger another connection migration.  This will cause the
+validation of the address of the spurious migration to be abandoned.
+
+
+### Loss Detection and Congestion Control {#migration-cc}
+
+The capacity available on the new path might not be the same as the old path.
+Packets sent on the old path SHOULD NOT contribute to the state of the
+congestion control and RTT estimation on the new path. If it is using a single
+congestion controller and round-trip time estimator, the client SHOULD reset
+them prior to sending any non-probing packets from a new local address.
+
+After successful validation of the client's new address, the server SHOULD reset

This is almost identical to the end of the paragraph above it.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+An endpoint MUST NOT return to the send rate used for the previous path unless
+it is reasonably sure that the previous send rate is valid for the new path.
+For instance, a change in the client's port number is likely indicative of a
+rebinding in a middlebox and not a complete change in path.  This determination
+likely depends on heuristics, which could be imperfect; if the new path capacity
+is significantly reduced, ultimately this relies on the congestion controller
+responding to congestion signals and reducing send rates appropriately.
+
+There may be apparent reordering at the receiver when an endpoint sends data and
+probes from/to multiple addresses during the migration period, since the two
+resulting paths may have different round-trip times.  A receiver of packets on
+multiple paths will still send ACK frames covering all received packets.
+
+An endpoint MAY use a single congestion control context and a single loss
+recovery context, as described in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.  A sender MAY make

MAY -> SHOULD

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -A QUIC connection can be identified using the Destination Connection ID included
-in packets.  QUIC's consistent connection ID allows connections to survive
-changes to the client's IP and/or port, such as those caused by client or server
-migrating to a new network.  Connection migration allows a client to retain any
-shared state with a connection when they move networks.  This includes state
-that can be hard to recover such as outstanding requests, which might otherwise
-be lost with no easy way to retry them.
+QUIC allows connections to survive changes to endpoint addresses (that is, IP
+address and/or port), such as those caused by a endpoint migrating to a new
+network.  This section describes the process by which an endpoint migrates to a
+new address.
+
+An endpoint MUST NOT initiate connection migration before the handshake is
+finished and the endpoint has 1-RTT keys.
+
+This document limits migration of connections to new client addresses.

There's more that's needed for a server migration, even though the mechanisms we have so far can be used in both. I have a separate branch with the immediate-server-migration case, and we can follow on with "full" server migration if time permits.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-An endpoint MUST validate that its peer can receive packets at the new address
-before sending any significant quantity of data to that address, or it risks
-being used for denial of service.  See {{migrate-validate}} for details.
+Receiving acknowledgments for data sent on the new path serves as proof of the
+peer's reachability from the new address.  Note that since acknowledgments may
+be received on any path, return reachability on the new path is not
+established. To establish return reachability on the new path, an endpoint MAY
+concurrently initiate path validation {{migrate-validate}} on the new path.
+
+
+### Responding to Connection Migration {#migration-response}
+
+Receiving a packet from a new peer address containing a non-probing frame

I think that's a substantive change to the design. If you don't intend to migrate, you're not using that path for anything except probing. If you're including a STREAM frame, then you are migrating, though you might also want to explicitly probe to be sure the migration is working.

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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-An endpoint MUST validate that its peer can receive packets at the new address
-before sending any significant quantity of data to that address, or it risks
-being used for denial of service.  See {{migrate-validate}} for details.
+Receiving acknowledgments for data sent on the new path serves as proof of the
+peer's reachability from the new address.  Note that since acknowledgments may
+be received on any path, return reachability on the new path is not
+established. To establish return reachability on the new path, an endpoint MAY
+concurrently initiate path validation {{migrate-validate}} on the new path.
+
+
+### Responding to Connection Migration {#migration-response}
+
+Receiving a packet from a new peer address containing a non-probing frame

Above the text says it's ok to bundle other frames with PATH_CHALLENGE, so I assumed STREAM frames were ok. Is that not true? Whatever we decide, this should be clear.

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Looking good.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +spoofed address, an endpoint MAY limit the rate at which it sends PATH_RESPONSE
+frames and MAY silently discard PATH_CHALLENGE frames that would cause it to
+respond at a higher rate.
+
+To ensure that packets can be both sent to and received from the peer, the
+PATH_RESPONSE MUST be sent on the same path as the triggering PATH_CHALLENGE:
+from the same local address on which the PATH_CHALLENGE was received, to the
+same remote address from which the PATH_CHALLENGE was received.
+
+
+### Completion
+
+A new address is considered valid when a PATH_RESPONSE frame is received
+containing data that was sent in a previous PATH_CHALLENGE. Receipt of an
+acknowledgment for a packet containing a PATH_CHALLENGE frame is not adequate
+validation, since the acknowledgment can be spoofed by a malicious client.

"client" => "peer"

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A more general ability to hand off to a different server address is left for the future, though it would probably take the form of a frame which is substantially similar to the new transport option. One new requirement which isn't really specific to this but which this makes more obvious: If you're trying to do connection migration, but you get a Stateless Reset on the new path, that doesn't mean the connection gets dropped -- it just means that IP from your new address took you to the wrong server, and your new address can't be used to continue the connection. Based on `migration3`; **DO NOT MERGE** until #1249 has landed and the target of this PR has been changed. 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Fixes #560; this is a specific post-handshake handoff by the server to a new IP address. A more general ability to hand off to a different server address is left for the future, though it would probably take the form of a frame which is substantially similar to the new transport option.

One new requirement which isn't really specific to this but which this makes more obvious: If you're trying to do connection migration, but you get a Stateless Reset on the new path, that doesn't mean the connection gets dropped -- it just means that IP from your new address took you to the wrong server, and your new address can't be used to continue the connection.

Based on migration3; DO NOT MERGE until #1249 has landed and the target of this PR has been changed.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1251

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Comments done. > @@ -1451,29 +1454,276 @@ failure. If integrity protection is performed by QUIC, QUIC MUST abort the connection if the integrity check fails with a PROTOCOL_VIOLATION error code. +## Path Validation {#migrate-validate} + +Path validation is used by an endpoint to verify reachability of a peer over a The last sentence in this para is supposed to capture that. It's not bidirectional in the sense that the peer has to do its own validation... so saying "both directions" can be a bit misleading > -A QUIC connection can be identified using the Destination Connection ID included -in packets. QUIC's consistent connection ID allows connections to survive -changes to the client's IP and/or port, such as those caused by client or server -migrating to a new network. Connection migration allows a client to retain any -shared state with a connection when they move networks. This includes state -that can be hard to recover such as outstanding requests, which might otherwise -be lost with no easy way to retry them. +QUIC allows connections to survive changes to endpoint addresses (that is, IP +address and/or port), such as those caused by a endpoint migrating to a new +network. This section describes the process by which an endpoint migrates to a +new address. + +An endpoint MUST NOT initiate connection migration before the handshake is +finished and the endpoint has 1-RTT keys. + +This document limits migration of connections to new client addresses. What Mike said. > -An endpoint MUST validate that its peer can receive packets at the new address -before sending any significant quantity of data to that address, or it risks -being used for denial of service. See {{migrate-validate}} for details. +Receiving acknowledgments for data sent on the new path serves as proof of the +peer's reachability from the new address. Note that since acknowledgments may +be received on any path, return reachability on the new path is not +established. To establish return reachability on the new path, an endpoint MAY +concurrently initiate path validation {{migrate-validate}} on the new path. + + +### Responding to Connection Migration {#migration-response} + +Receiving a packet from a new peer address containing a non-probing frame It's ok to bundle other frames, as the server might, when it's verifying client ownership of the new address. But if a client sends anything but probing frames to the server, the server considers this as a migration, not a probe. > +validation tokens ({{address-validation}}) to the client. + + +#### Handling Address Spoofing by a Peer {#address-spoofing} + +It is possible that a peer is spoofing its source address to cause an endpoint +to send excessive amounts of data to an unwilling host. If the endpoint sends +significantly more data than the spoofing peer, connection migration might be +used to amplify the volume of data that an attacker can generate toward a +victim. + +As described in {{migration-response}}, an endpoint is required to validate a +peer's new address to confirm the peer's possession of the new address. Until a +peer's address is deemed valid, an endpoint MUST limit the rate at which it +sends data to this address. The endpoint MUST NOT send more than a minimum +congestion window's worth of data per estimated round-trip time (kMinimumWindow, I'd rather leave this at min cwnd for now, and we can fix this later if necessary. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1249#pullrequestreview-107412588 ----==_mimepart_5aba91ec7b3b0_39053fa70f5d0f341892db Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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Comments done.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1451,29 +1454,276 @@ failure.  If integrity protection is performed by QUIC, QUIC MUST abort the
 connection if the integrity check fails with a PROTOCOL_VIOLATION error code.
 
 
+## Path Validation {#migrate-validate}
+
+Path validation is used by an endpoint to verify reachability of a peer over a

The last sentence in this para is supposed to capture that. It's not bidirectional in the sense that the peer has to do its own validation... so saying "both directions" can be a bit misleading

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -A QUIC connection can be identified using the Destination Connection ID included
-in packets.  QUIC's consistent connection ID allows connections to survive
-changes to the client's IP and/or port, such as those caused by client or server
-migrating to a new network.  Connection migration allows a client to retain any
-shared state with a connection when they move networks.  This includes state
-that can be hard to recover such as outstanding requests, which might otherwise
-be lost with no easy way to retry them.
+QUIC allows connections to survive changes to endpoint addresses (that is, IP
+address and/or port), such as those caused by a endpoint migrating to a new
+network.  This section describes the process by which an endpoint migrates to a
+new address.
+
+An endpoint MUST NOT initiate connection migration before the handshake is
+finished and the endpoint has 1-RTT keys.
+
+This document limits migration of connections to new client addresses.

What Mike said.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-An endpoint MUST validate that its peer can receive packets at the new address
-before sending any significant quantity of data to that address, or it risks
-being used for denial of service.  See {{migrate-validate}} for details.
+Receiving acknowledgments for data sent on the new path serves as proof of the
+peer's reachability from the new address.  Note that since acknowledgments may
+be received on any path, return reachability on the new path is not
+established. To establish return reachability on the new path, an endpoint MAY
+concurrently initiate path validation {{migrate-validate}} on the new path.
+
+
+### Responding to Connection Migration {#migration-response}
+
+Receiving a packet from a new peer address containing a non-probing frame

It's ok to bundle other frames, as the server might, when it's verifying client ownership of the new address. But if a client sends anything but probing frames to the server, the server considers this as a migration, not a probe.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +validation tokens ({{address-validation}}) to the client.
+
+
+#### Handling Address Spoofing by a Peer {#address-spoofing}
+
+It is possible that a peer is spoofing its source address to cause an endpoint
+to send excessive amounts of data to an unwilling host.  If the endpoint sends
+significantly more data than the spoofing peer, connection migration might be
+used to amplify the volume of data that an attacker can generate toward a
+victim.
+
+As described in {{migration-response}}, an endpoint is required to validate a
+peer's new address to confirm the peer's possession of the new address.  Until a
+peer's address is deemed valid, an endpoint MUST limit the rate at which it
+sends data to this address.  The endpoint MUST NOT send more than a minimum
+congestion window's worth of data per estimated round-trip time (kMinimumWindow,

I'd rather leave this at min cwnd for now, and we can fix this later if necessary.

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I am merging this PR -- it's been doing the rounds for way too long now. There's agreement on the key mechanism, and if there are clarifications that need to be done, I'm happy to do those in a follow-up PR.

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@ianswett approved this pull request.

Looks good, though I'm still a bit confused on the definition of probing/non-probing packets.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +ID provided in the preferred_address transport parameter.
+
+If path validation succeeds, the client SHOULD immediately begin sending all
+non-probe packets to the new server address using the new connection ID and
+discontinue use of the old server address.  If path validation fails, the client
+MUST continue sending all future packets to the server's original IP address.
+
+### Responding to Connection Migration
+
+A server might receive a packet addressed to its preferred IP address at any
+time during the connection after the handshake is completed.  If this packet
+contains a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, the server sends a PATH_RESPONSE frame as per
+{{migrate-validate}}, but the server MUST continue sending all other packets
+from its original IP address.
+
+Once the server has received a non-probing packet on its preferred address which

I'm still confused on what probing and non-probing packets are. Did I just miss the definition?

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@MikeBishop commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +ID provided in the preferred_address transport parameter.
+
+If path validation succeeds, the client SHOULD immediately begin sending all
+non-probe packets to the new server address using the new connection ID and
+discontinue use of the old server address.  If path validation fails, the client
+MUST continue sending all future packets to the server's original IP address.
+
+### Responding to Connection Migration
+
+A server might receive a packet addressed to its preferred IP address at any
+time during the connection after the handshake is completed.  If this packet
+contains a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, the server sends a PATH_RESPONSE frame as per
+{{migrate-validate}}, but the server MUST continue sending all other packets
+from its original IP address.
+
+Once the server has received a non-probing packet on its preferred address which

Line 1612 defines the "probing frames" and talks about "packets containing other frames," but you're correct that there's not as clear a definition as I'd thought. Let's add that in the top-level migration PR. @janaiyengar?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +ID provided in the preferred_address transport parameter.
+
+If path validation succeeds, the client SHOULD immediately begin sending all
+non-probe packets to the new server address using the new connection ID and
+discontinue use of the old server address.  If path validation fails, the client
+MUST continue sending all future packets to the server's original IP address.
+
+### Responding to Connection Migration
+
+A server might receive a packet addressed to its preferred IP address at any
+time during the connection after the handshake is completed.  If this packet
+contains a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, the server sends a PATH_RESPONSE frame as per
+{{migrate-validate}}, but the server MUST continue sending all other packets
+from its original IP address.
+
+Once the server has received a non-probing packet on its preferred address which

@janaiyengar Already merged that, so I'd suggest we clarify it in this PR?

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----==_mimepart_5aba95d8b5083_500e3f8a4e52af2c389839-- From nobody Tue Mar 27 12:06:54 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D271D12D969 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2018 12:06:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.391 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.391 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3u0gA9PInFNr for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2018 12:06:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o5.sgmail.github.com (o5.sgmail.github.com [192.254.113.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A508112785F for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2018 12:06:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=DZDkG8YEZ0pGGizqdC1IuhjaYys=; b=lTJPe9XPPiEkvWtr 4xqTpJg4upbgML03YkIP4wRHehTeBo9/6dfhOZW9arIaSSqXCISDx4X+ka/D9mdq c/vvvZkdniUzgJmKPtLj//wqxkaqK6vt8EMDsHCEaFQ91cwbNgjWP4no0zpFW2Yj HgOFHVvDDD6zfzw5Lw1vq8PWU8o= Received: by filter0220p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0220p1iad2-25103-5ABA9647-39 2018-03-27 19:06:47.845644065 +0000 UTC Received: from smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) by ismtpd0030p1mdw1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id n6azLbiIT6Ssfbuy54-Dhw for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2018 19:06:47.837 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2018 19:06:47 +0000 (UTC) From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Server's preferred address (#1251) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aba96475f3f3_34843ff249196f38763e6"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak0/FWbV2v47Z+LNBZ58YCvG4mz5/wtZmarvB4 ARd4StqdPM8ouroZjLx5MWBaQJgQjH2UNiKmWYjvbo4Io3vVc4owKTlry9b1/GGjHjS8u6mu0QgcY9 kujYtx9BQaq6hlrZUy5ZyQ7VCqrcEQN8ql6WlI8jmzonC7QDkhkbn35dbt5tWihYHz6LYir9sixjBH U= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2018 19:06:51 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aba96475f3f3_34843ff249196f38763e6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit And thanks for writing this up Mike. This is a great traffic management feature, and it's great to have this in an early draft, so different groups can ensure it works as intended. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1251#issuecomment-376639650 ----==_mimepart_5aba96475f3f3_34843ff249196f38763e6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

And thanks for writing this up Mike. This is a great traffic management feature, and it's great to have this in an early draft, so different groups can ensure it works as intended.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -974,6 +968,13 @@ kLossReductionFactor (default 0.5):
 Variables required to implement the congestion control mechanisms
 are described in this section.
 
+sender_mss:

I don't think we should use MSS, since the idea of a segment is TCP-specific. How about max_datagram_size?

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----==_mimepart_5aba96cc2c71_5d322b25f3b20ec8107783-- From nobody Tue Mar 27 13:25:35 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EB761273E2 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2018 13:25:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.605 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.605 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id H6UHWV-nxaUp for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2018 13:25:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o5.sgmail.github.com (o5.sgmail.github.com [192.254.113.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ED2EC127337 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2018 13:25:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=pf7X6ey4tOWJ8hOmFmJpaX3XtoI=; b=quQUiaRUQHWfvqUw +7F+vuwVogM8nekqpEy/jQpvE/Ltg2kya4OmWs6HyPccYQ76K/B2EvU7wOMqVCCU QTP5Zm9vmWq0sosbbXPrqKiaOu1nHNR2YeX6wHHu4mIuA8ICdxB3D1wexd/7b9uo 9C5nVirpYMWYTzYjRsZ9iHPF0gE= Received: by filter0494p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0494p1iad2-6779-5ABAA8BA-3E 2018-03-27 20:25:30.763399894 +0000 UTC Received: from smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) by ismtpd0002p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id KYmJ9aOrQEmSWE18KVDGEg for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2018 20:25:30.640 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2018 20:25:30 +0000 (UTC) From: martinduke Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Stream Flow Control on Stream 0 (#1252) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5abaa8ba994f1_af883fbb78410f2824838c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinduke X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak0VC9tQIQy3ObUC1T1k5bNgeRVlnRKjLnuNOZ 6nzOE3RBHJwoGqLS8zW1iuE4JPIiS4WhWjvMd5llf/lKeD0KEwZmhyQZ6ruXovIG8LWkqRqNRgB8aJ JRmngGJ8mz1x8jlPDW7so9gB5gEs/ml6sC8bxlW5JEA4my/2FkN6auQ/4+UhJ7vRIkUERWIq01fqRR k= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2018 20:25:33 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5abaa8ba994f1_af883fbb78410f2824838c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Perhaps all this will be obviated by ekr, etc. work on the "Crypto Stream" PR, but here goes anyway... It bothers me that Stream 0 is not subject to stream flow control limits throughout the handshake. Subjecting it to *connection* flow control could absolutely have unintentional consequences, but explicit flow control for the crypto handshake is no harder than what we manage with TCP every day. One can imagine a fairly trivial attack where a client, after getting a request for a certificate, delivers stream 0 offsets N+10 to N+, and the server is required to store it all. It is certainly possible to write some "don't accept stupid stuff" code in the server, but it would be way better to allow this control within the protocol without sketchy heuristics. Obviously, the Initial packet would still not be subject to these limits. I would like this tweak to appear in the new proposal. If it is worthwhile to submit a PR against the current text, I am happy to do so. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1252 ----==_mimepart_5abaa8ba994f1_af883fbb78410f2824838c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Perhaps all this will be obviated by ekr, etc. work on the "Crypto Stream" PR, but here goes anyway...

It bothers me that Stream 0 is not subject to stream flow control limits throughout the handshake. Subjecting it to connection flow control could absolutely have unintentional consequences, but explicit flow control for the crypto handshake is no harder than what we manage with TCP every day.

One can imagine a fairly trivial attack where a client, after getting a request for a certificate, delivers stream 0 offsets N+10 to N+, and the server is required to store it all. It is certainly possible to write some "don't accept stupid stuff" code in the server, but it would be way better to allow this control within the protocol without sketchy heuristics.

Obviously, the Initial packet would still not be subject to these limits.

I would like this tweak to appear in the new proposal. If it is worthwhile to submit a PR against the current text, I am happy to do so.

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----==_mimepart_5abaa8ba994f1_af883fbb78410f2824838c-- From nobody Tue Mar 27 14:01:50 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD5BE127867 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2018 14:01:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ex1eV4b4s_za for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2018 14:01:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB03A1273E2 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2018 14:01:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2018 14:01:45 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1522184505; bh=a7X07BYGKB8QPnf1Jq46CVPKZNdbQRL0MYdu8KbcIpw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=R2in4oFS578/9gDCOeZ8+WJ7uQXq7a0zxof77Z1lSj1vKTaGZflmazJ16u/xA9OPG mAKYjQg3w7x0q7xKZkTXV2I8M/NIPi0xfacl6ZTZgaiLh6dmR4o/7HkH8SZEnrLkc5 aXRMpFyBPtH3skYf4iAeXs5qDKW8RbhzAqhd/Be0= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Stream Flow Control on Stream 0 (#1252) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5abab139e0f7c_78b02abb4b92eed45451d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2018 21:01:49 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5abab139e0f7c_78b02abb4b92eed45451d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The reason we don't employ stream-level flow control until the handshake completes is because you can't authenticate the flow control messages you received. This means you have to land in one of three camps: 1. **Can't grant additional flow control credit until handshake finishes.** But then if the handshake *needs* more flow control, it deadlocks. 2. **1-RTT flow control messages overwrite 0-RTT flow control messages.** But if you never send a flow control update under 1-RTT keys, the attacker-controlled value stands. 3. **Normalize the stream flow control after the handshake completes.** Closing the stream is a special case of this. We wound up with (1), and the flow control exemption to avert the deadlock. It's not the only reasonable solution, but it's a more nuanced problem than it first appears. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1252#issuecomment-376674096 ----==_mimepart_5abab139e0f7c_78b02abb4b92eed45451d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The reason we don't employ stream-level flow control until the handsha= ke completes is because you can't authenticate the flow control messages = you received. This means you have to land in one of three camps:

  1. Can't grant additional flow control credit until handshake fi= nishes. But then if the handshake needs more flow cont= rol, it deadlocks.
  2. 1-RTT flow control messages overwrite 0-RTT flow control mess= ages. But if you never send a flow control update under 1-RTT k= eys, the attacker-controlled value stands.
  3. Normalize the stream flow control after the handshake complet= es. Closing the stream is a special case of this.

We wound up with (1), and the flow control exemption to avert the dead= lock. It's not the only reasonable solution, but it's a more nuanced pro= blem than it first appears.

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@MikeBishop Thanks for the explanation.=

When we look at possible harm to a fully compliant implementation, I d= on't think the current text holds up well: as described above, there is n= o limit to the data a server must store if it requests a certificate.

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The attacker you suggest is annoying, but it's a nuisance rather than = fatal:

  1. If the attacker tries to lower the amount of credit the client has, t= he client will ignore it.
  2. If the attacker tries to increase the credit, it's still limited by d= ata the client has to send. Moreover, the server will definitely drop the= out of bounds data. (In yet another instance of the "stream 0 is special= " list, we'd better not set FLOW_CONTROL_ERROR in this case.)

But yes, I see the need for some correction mechanism once keys are es= tablished.

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I think I agree with @martinduke here. Why= not allow the flow control frames to be sent during the handshake, and the= n recommend (require?) that each side send an updated flow control frame in= 1-RTT after the handshake completes? Then, if things don't add up, we eith= er self correct or kill the connection.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1589,9 +1589,13 @@ Receiving a PATH_CHALLENGE frame from a peer indicates that the peer is probing
 for reachability on a path. An endpoint sends a PATH_RESPONSE in response as per
 {{migrate-validate}}.
 
-PATH_CHALLENGE, PATH_RESPONSE, and PADDING frames are "probing" frames. Until an
-endpoint receives packets containing other frames from a given peer address, it
-MUST NOT send other types of frames to that address.
+PATH_CHALLENGE, PATH_RESPONSE, and PADDING frames are "probing frames", and all
+other frames are "non-probing frames".  A packet containing only probing frames
+is a "probing packet", and a packet containing any other frame is a "non-probing
+packet".
+
+An endpoint MUST NOT send non-probing frames to a peer address until it receives

Is this statement true? What about NAT rebinds?

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@MikeBishop approved this pull request.

Good on the targeted fix, but let's get a drive-by fix to the adjacent text while we're here.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1589,9 +1589,13 @@ Receiving a PATH_CHALLENGE frame from a peer indicates that the peer is probing
 for reachability on a path. An endpoint sends a PATH_RESPONSE in response as per
 {{migrate-validate}}.
 
-PATH_CHALLENGE, PATH_RESPONSE, and PADDING frames are "probing" frames. Until an
-endpoint receives packets containing other frames from a given peer address, it
-MUST NOT send other types of frames to that address.
+PATH_CHALLENGE, PATH_RESPONSE, and PADDING frames are "probing frames", and all
+other frames are "non-probing frames".  A packet containing only probing frames
+is a "probing packet", and a packet containing any other frame is a "non-probing
+packet".
+
+An endpoint MUST NOT send non-probing frames to a peer address until it receives

If this statement is strictly followed, no one ever migrates because they're waiting for the other side to do so. (At which the other side has violated a MUST, and you really ought to kill the connection to that naughty endpoint!)

For both client and server migration, this actually points in the same direction, so let's accept the non-generic here: "A server MUST NOT send non-probing packets to a client address until it receives a non-probing packet from that address."

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think that it is reasonable to say that we are developing invariants that are based on UDP. In doing so we make no claims about the use of QUIC over other substrates (such as IP directly). That seems perfectly OK. This is invariants, so it can't be v2. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1250#issuecomment-376727237 ----==_mimepart_5abaecc3737f3_4b792b1283a62ec49201e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I think that it is reasonable to say that we are developing invariants= that are based on UDP. In doing so we make no claims about the use of Q= UIC over other substrates (such as IP directly). That seems perfectly OK= .

This is invariants, so it can't be v2.

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High-order comment: I think this should be called something else, since the parallel with Client Connection Migration might be misleading. > @@ -1485,6 +1505,11 @@ path validation with other frames. For instance, an endpoint may pad a packet carrying a PATH_CHALLENGE for PMTU discovery, or an endpoint may bundle a PATH_RESPONSE with its own PATH_CHALLENGE. +Differences in routing on the Internet might cause the same destination address +and connection ID to reach a different server instance which does not posses the +necessary connection state. Receiving a Stateless Reset in response to a probing +packet SHOULD NOT terminate the connection, but MUST cause the endpoint to +consider path validation to have failed. nice catch. > +QUIC allows servers to accept connections on one IP address and attempt to +transfer these connections to a more preferred address shortly after the +handshake. This section describes the protocol for migrating a connection to a +new server address. + +Migrating a connection to a new server address mid-connection is left for future +work. If a client receives packets from a new server address not indicated by +the preferred_address transport parameter, the client SHOULD discard these +packets. + +### Initiating Connection Migration + +A server initiates connection migration by including the preferred_address +transport parameter in the TLS handshake. + +Once the handshake is finished, the client MUST initiate path validation (see Requiring the client to use the server's preferred address seems unnecessary. > +Migrating a connection to a new server address mid-connection is left for future +work. If a client receives packets from a new server address not indicated by +the preferred_address transport parameter, the client SHOULD discard these +packets. + +### Initiating Connection Migration + +A server initiates connection migration by including the preferred_address +transport parameter in the TLS handshake. + +Once the handshake is finished, the client MUST initiate path validation (see +{{migrate-validate}}) of the server's preferred IP address using the connection +ID provided in the preferred_address transport parameter. + +If path validation succeeds, the client SHOULD immediately begin sending all +non-probe packets to the new server address using the new connection ID and s/non-probe/non-probing/ > +ID provided in the preferred_address transport parameter. + +If path validation succeeds, the client SHOULD immediately begin sending all +non-probe packets to the new server address using the new connection ID and +discontinue use of the old server address. If path validation fails, the client +MUST continue sending all future packets to the server's original IP address. + +### Responding to Connection Migration + +A server might receive a packet addressed to its preferred IP address at any +time during the connection after the handshake is completed. If this packet +contains a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, the server sends a PATH_RESPONSE frame as per +{{migrate-validate}}, but the server MUST continue sending all other packets +from its original IP address. + +Once the server has received a non-probing packet on its preferred address which Fixed in #1253 > +If path validation succeeds, the client SHOULD immediately begin sending all +non-probe packets to the new server address using the new connection ID and +discontinue use of the old server address. If path validation fails, the client +MUST continue sending all future packets to the server's original IP address. + +### Responding to Connection Migration + +A server might receive a packet addressed to its preferred IP address at any +time during the connection after the handshake is completed. If this packet +contains a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, the server sends a PATH_RESPONSE frame as per +{{migrate-validate}}, but the server MUST continue sending all other packets +from its original IP address. + +Once the server has received a non-probing packet on its preferred address which +is the largest packet number seen so far, the server begins sending to the +client exclusively from its preferred IP address. What should the server do if a subsequent packet from the client appears on the old address? > +time during the connection after the handshake is completed. If this packet +contains a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, the server sends a PATH_RESPONSE frame as per +{{migrate-validate}}, but the server MUST continue sending all other packets +from its original IP address. + +Once the server has received a non-probing packet on its preferred address which +is the largest packet number seen so far, the server begins sending to the +client exclusively from its preferred IP address. + + +## Interaction of Client and Server Migration + +A client might need to perform a connection migration before the server's +connection migration has completed. In this case, the client SHOULD perform +path validation to both the original and preferred server address from the +client's new address concurrently. This is tricky. Where should the client send data if its old address is unusable? (I want to spend more cycles thinking about this, but I'll be out. Do make sure that all corner cases are covered; I worry that there are more here.) > @@ -1791,6 +1811,64 @@ number. "packet_number_secret" is derived from the TLS key exchange, as described in Section 5.6 of {{QUIC-TLS}}. +## Server Connection Migration {#migration-server} I don't think this should be called Server Connection Migration. There's a symmetry with Client Connection Migration that this name suggests, but that's not true, since the assumptions are quite different. How about "Using a Preferred Server Address"? Along the same lines, I think you should state any assumptions here clearly, since these have implications. I can think of at least one: The server is not actually changing network attachment points. I believe this assumption is implicit in this design. > @@ -1791,6 +1811,64 @@ number. "packet_number_secret" is derived from the TLS key exchange, as described in Section 5.6 of {{QUIC-TLS}}. +## Server Connection Migration {#migration-server} + I would add a short description of where this is expected to be used. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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High-order comment: I think this should be called something else, since the parallel with Client Connection Migration might be misleading.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1485,6 +1505,11 @@ path validation with other frames.  For instance, an endpoint may pad a packet
 carrying a PATH_CHALLENGE for PMTU discovery, or an endpoint may bundle a
 PATH_RESPONSE with its own PATH_CHALLENGE.
 
+Differences in routing on the Internet might cause the same destination address
+and connection ID to reach a different server instance which does not posses the
+necessary connection state. Receiving a Stateless Reset in response to a probing
+packet SHOULD NOT terminate the connection, but MUST cause the endpoint to
+consider path validation to have failed.

nice catch.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +QUIC allows servers to accept connections on one IP address and attempt to
+transfer these connections to a more preferred address shortly after the
+handshake.  This section describes the protocol for migrating a connection to a
+new server address.
+
+Migrating a connection to a new server address mid-connection is left for future
+work. If a client receives packets from a new server address not indicated by
+the preferred_address transport parameter, the client SHOULD discard these
+packets.
+
+### Initiating Connection Migration
+
+A server initiates connection migration by including the preferred_address
+transport parameter in the TLS handshake.
+
+Once the handshake is finished, the client MUST initiate path validation (see

Requiring the client to use the server's preferred address seems unnecessary.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +Migrating a connection to a new server address mid-connection is left for future
+work. If a client receives packets from a new server address not indicated by
+the preferred_address transport parameter, the client SHOULD discard these
+packets.
+
+### Initiating Connection Migration
+
+A server initiates connection migration by including the preferred_address
+transport parameter in the TLS handshake.
+
+Once the handshake is finished, the client MUST initiate path validation (see
+{{migrate-validate}}) of the server's preferred IP address using the connection
+ID provided in the preferred_address transport parameter.
+
+If path validation succeeds, the client SHOULD immediately begin sending all
+non-probe packets to the new server address using the new connection ID and

s/non-probe/non-probing/

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +ID provided in the preferred_address transport parameter.
+
+If path validation succeeds, the client SHOULD immediately begin sending all
+non-probe packets to the new server address using the new connection ID and
+discontinue use of the old server address.  If path validation fails, the client
+MUST continue sending all future packets to the server's original IP address.
+
+### Responding to Connection Migration
+
+A server might receive a packet addressed to its preferred IP address at any
+time during the connection after the handshake is completed.  If this packet
+contains a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, the server sends a PATH_RESPONSE frame as per
+{{migrate-validate}}, but the server MUST continue sending all other packets
+from its original IP address.
+
+Once the server has received a non-probing packet on its preferred address which

Fixed in #1253

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +If path validation succeeds, the client SHOULD immediately begin sending all
+non-probe packets to the new server address using the new connection ID and
+discontinue use of the old server address.  If path validation fails, the client
+MUST continue sending all future packets to the server's original IP address.
+
+### Responding to Connection Migration
+
+A server might receive a packet addressed to its preferred IP address at any
+time during the connection after the handshake is completed.  If this packet
+contains a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, the server sends a PATH_RESPONSE frame as per
+{{migrate-validate}}, but the server MUST continue sending all other packets
+from its original IP address.
+
+Once the server has received a non-probing packet on its preferred address which
+is the largest packet number seen so far, the server begins sending to the
+client exclusively from its preferred IP address.

What should the server do if a subsequent packet from the client appears on the old address?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +time during the connection after the handshake is completed.  If this packet
+contains a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, the server sends a PATH_RESPONSE frame as per
+{{migrate-validate}}, but the server MUST continue sending all other packets
+from its original IP address.
+
+Once the server has received a non-probing packet on its preferred address which
+is the largest packet number seen so far, the server begins sending to the
+client exclusively from its preferred IP address.
+
+
+## Interaction of Client and Server Migration
+
+A client might need to perform a connection migration before the server's
+connection migration has completed.  In this case, the client SHOULD perform
+path validation to both the original and preferred server address from the
+client's new address concurrently.

This is tricky. Where should the client send data if its old address is unusable?
(I want to spend more cycles thinking about this, but I'll be out. Do make sure that all corner cases are covered; I worry that there are more here.)

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1791,6 +1811,64 @@ number. "packet_number_secret" is derived from the TLS key exchange,
 as described in Section 5.6 of {{QUIC-TLS}}.
 
 
+## Server Connection Migration {#migration-server}

I don't think this should be called Server Connection Migration. There's a symmetry with Client Connection Migration that this name suggests, but that's not true, since the assumptions are quite different. How about "Using a Preferred Server Address"?

Along the same lines, I think you should state any assumptions here clearly, since these have implications. I can think of at least one: The server is not actually changing network attachment points. I believe this assumption is implicit in this design.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1791,6 +1811,64 @@ number. "packet_number_secret" is derived from the TLS key exchange,
 as described in Section 5.6 of {{QUIC-TLS}}.
 
 
+## Server Connection Migration {#migration-server}
+

I would add a short description of where this is expected to be used.

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This paragraph:

A server MUST NOT send non-probing frames to a client's address until the server
receives a non-probing packet from that address.

Is true only with the restriction of migration to client addresses. It
complicates the server migration story if we ever want to do that (as we
already have with the proposal for preferred addresses).

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1254

Commit Summary

  • Remove unnecessary text from #1253

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----==_mimepart_5abb011129ac0_2ce2aedb55fcecc924d9-- From nobody Tue Mar 27 19:47:47 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADD95120724 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2018 19:47:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ElbwsIoMkTyX for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2018 19:47:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o8.sgmail.github.com (o8.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.199]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 12CC0126BF3 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2018 19:47:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=2Zt4+bDf9vwb5ahI2ryUcCDRdhc=; b=HRNcFhjyVPrxgKby nBbr6cBG4yv2XfNN4IgF5Ifygw24t5UNT0tP8pJdcDB4nUvYerzHw2HdoLyWKFwy 1ZhTD16D7f92ml3V9qTPgLOVTuRIkfKv89MtrxefO6VblqERAjonbmW9yOm/MVF5 93ef07i9FMux65mTe90gHc075mU= Received: by filter0471p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0471p1iad2-803-5ABB024D-28 2018-03-28 02:47:42.055778046 +0000 UTC Received: from smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) by ismtpd0002p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id oTXSu8nhQH-cUkpVUFkVhA for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2018 02:47:41.866 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 02:47:42 +0000 (UTC) From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Server's preferred address (#1251) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5abb024db8bf8_12e32addcdfdced02637e7"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak3F9Z1ci1E92KkE+fgkv+E0gSLkNKlLhMz1yG PEbMSrwYvKcoZ0oROz6VNmJ9QaxBEKjYd7IuogtEOJZZLT6EYoVGAMRkepHiJhzh20nq0VLwa8V49g 0N99zMg6ihznxR46jaHLRkm3XGRfe4YdY+j9pjXF+KH2L3DQKd7ZdBR/CGDP1TPIJ3FcH5GDZ35D4b M= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 02:47:46 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5abb024db8bf8_12e32addcdfdced02637e7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson requested changes on this pull request. This needs working group review and feedback. Especially the part where support of this feature is mandatory. We need consensus that forcing clients to do this is a good thing. (For the record, I don't think that the changes needed are big, but I'll request changes until it's clear that there is consensus to adopt the change.) > @@ -1105,6 +1107,14 @@ language from Section 3 of {{!I-D.ietf-tls-tls13}}. }; TransportParameter parameters<22..2^16-1>; } TransportParameters; + + struct { + enum { IPv4(4), IPv6(6), (15)} ip_version; Please be consistent about snake_case and camelCase. > @@ -1105,6 +1107,14 @@ language from Section 3 of {{!I-D.ietf-tls-tls13}}. }; TransportParameter parameters<22..2^16-1>; } TransportParameters; + + struct { + enum { IPv4(4), IPv6(6), (15)} ip_version; + opaque ip_address<4..2^8-1>; + uint16 port; + opaque connectionId<4..18>; To be clear, this only works if the server chooses to use a connection ID. > @@ -1485,6 +1505,11 @@ path validation with other frames. For instance, an endpoint may pad a packet carrying a PATH_CHALLENGE for PMTU discovery, or an endpoint may bundle a PATH_RESPONSE with its own PATH_CHALLENGE. +Differences in routing on the Internet might cause the same destination address +and connection ID to reach a different server instance which does not posses the +necessary connection state. Receiving a Stateless Reset in response to a probing +packet SHOULD NOT terminate the connection, but MUST cause the endpoint to +consider path validation to have failed. Can we make this change in a separate PR? > +A server initiates connection migration by including the preferred_address +transport parameter in the TLS handshake. + +Once the handshake is finished, the client MUST initiate path validation (see +{{migrate-validate}}) of the server's preferred IP address using the connection +ID provided in the preferred_address transport parameter. + +If path validation succeeds, the client SHOULD immediately begin sending all +non-probe packets to the new server address using the new connection ID and +discontinue use of the old server address. If path validation fails, the client +MUST continue sending all future packets to the server's original IP address. + +### Responding to Connection Migration + +A server might receive a packet addressed to its preferred IP address at any +time during the connection after the handshake is completed. If this packet drop "during the connection", it's redundant with "after the handshake" > +time during the connection after the handshake is completed. If this packet +contains a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, the server sends a PATH_RESPONSE frame as per +{{migrate-validate}}, but the server MUST continue sending all other packets +from its original IP address. + +Once the server has received a non-probing packet on its preferred address which +is the largest packet number seen so far, the server begins sending to the +client exclusively from its preferred IP address. + + +## Interaction of Client and Server Migration + +A client might need to perform a connection migration before the server's +connection migration has completed. In this case, the client SHOULD perform +path validation to both the original and preferred server address from the +client's new address concurrently. I think that this is problematic. Managing two migrations concurrently is just hard. Though your stated design works (effectively trialing all three new paths), it's unnecessarily complicated. I would revise the client migration and forbid it (or state that it isn't going to work) until the server has finished its migration. That is, the client has to wait until after the server's migration occurs. The odds that a client is forced to migrate in this period is low enough that starting over might be better than taking on the combinatorial mess. That way leads to ICE. > +QUIC allows servers to accept connections on one IP address and attempt to +transfer these connections to a more preferred address shortly after the +handshake. This section describes the protocol for migrating a connection to a +new server address. + +Migrating a connection to a new server address mid-connection is left for future +work. If a client receives packets from a new server address not indicated by +the preferred_address transport parameter, the client SHOULD discard these +packets. + +### Initiating Connection Migration + +A server initiates connection migration by including the preferred_address +transport parameter in the TLS handshake. + +Once the handshake is finished, the client MUST initiate path validation (see A potential problem here is that the client concludes that the handshake is finished before the server does. That leads to retransmissions of the client Finished getting confused. I can't see any concrete issues (other than the ones we already have), but you should convince yourself that it's OK. > +A client might need to perform a connection migration before the server's +connection migration has completed. In this case, the client SHOULD perform +path validation to both the original and preferred server address from the +client's new address concurrently. + +If path validation of the server's preferred address succeeds, the client MUST +abandon validation of the original address and migrate to using the server's +preferred address. If path validation of the server's preferred address fails, +but validation of the server's original address succeeds, the client MAY migrate +to using the original address from the client's new address. + +If the connection to the server's preferred address is not from the same client +address, the server MUST protect against potential attacks as described in +{{address-spoofing}} and {{on-path-spoofing}}. In addition to intentional +simultaneous migration, this might also occur because the client's access +network used a different NAT binding for the server's preferred address. This could be clearer: the server probes toward the client when? After receiving a probe (no?), or after receiving non-probing packets (yes?). > @@ -1558,7 +1583,7 @@ failure. Primarily, this happens if a connection migration to a new path is initiated while a path validation on the old path is in progress. -## Connection Migration {#migration} +## Client Connection Migration {#migration-client} I don't think that we should make this "client" connection migration. This is the generic description, and the addition you made below is just a special case for the server that can be initiated during the handshake. > @@ -1791,6 +1811,64 @@ number. "packet_number_secret" is derived from the TLS key exchange, as described in Section 5.6 of {{QUIC-TLS}}. +## Server Connection Migration {#migration-server} I like (and prefer) the suggested name change. When you say that not changing network attachment is a necessary assumption, why is that important? The new address will be validated and congestion control rebooted in the same way that any other migration would be. So even if this points to a completely different server instance (with keys being shipped across as needed), it still works. > +QUIC allows servers to accept connections on one IP address and attempt to +transfer these connections to a more preferred address shortly after the +handshake. This section describes the protocol for migrating a connection to a +new server address. + +Migrating a connection to a new server address mid-connection is left for future +work. If a client receives packets from a new server address not indicated by +the preferred_address transport parameter, the client SHOULD discard these +packets. + +### Initiating Connection Migration + +A server initiates connection migration by including the preferred_address +transport parameter in the TLS handshake. + +Once the handshake is finished, the client MUST initiate path validation (see This feature is only effective if it can be relied upon. That said, it's a big deal, so we should talk about it. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1251#pullrequestreview-107519251 ----==_mimepart_5abb024db8bf8_12e32addcdfdced02637e7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@martinthomson requested changes on this pull request.

This needs working group review and feedback. Especially the part where support of this feature is mandatory. We need consensus that forcing clients to do this is a good thing.

(For the record, I don't think that the changes needed are big, but I'll request changes until it's clear that there is consensus to adopt the change.)

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1105,6 +1107,14 @@ language from Section 3 of {{!I-D.ietf-tls-tls13}}.
       };
       TransportParameter parameters<22..2^16-1>;
    } TransportParameters;
+
+   struct {
+     enum { IPv4(4), IPv6(6), (15)} ip_version;

Please be consistent about snake_case and camelCase.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1105,6 +1107,14 @@ language from Section 3 of {{!I-D.ietf-tls-tls13}}.
       };
       TransportParameter parameters<22..2^16-1>;
    } TransportParameters;
+
+   struct {
+     enum { IPv4(4), IPv6(6), (15)} ip_version;
+     opaque ip_address<4..2^8-1>;
+     uint16 port;
+     opaque connectionId<4..18>;

To be clear, this only works if the server chooses to use a connection ID.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1485,6 +1505,11 @@ path validation with other frames.  For instance, an endpoint may pad a packet
 carrying a PATH_CHALLENGE for PMTU discovery, or an endpoint may bundle a
 PATH_RESPONSE with its own PATH_CHALLENGE.
 
+Differences in routing on the Internet might cause the same destination address
+and connection ID to reach a different server instance which does not posses the
+necessary connection state. Receiving a Stateless Reset in response to a probing
+packet SHOULD NOT terminate the connection, but MUST cause the endpoint to
+consider path validation to have failed.

Can we make this change in a separate PR?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +A server initiates connection migration by including the preferred_address
+transport parameter in the TLS handshake.
+
+Once the handshake is finished, the client MUST initiate path validation (see
+{{migrate-validate}}) of the server's preferred IP address using the connection
+ID provided in the preferred_address transport parameter.
+
+If path validation succeeds, the client SHOULD immediately begin sending all
+non-probe packets to the new server address using the new connection ID and
+discontinue use of the old server address.  If path validation fails, the client
+MUST continue sending all future packets to the server's original IP address.
+
+### Responding to Connection Migration
+
+A server might receive a packet addressed to its preferred IP address at any
+time during the connection after the handshake is completed.  If this packet

drop "during the connection", it's redundant with "after the handshake"

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +time during the connection after the handshake is completed.  If this packet
+contains a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, the server sends a PATH_RESPONSE frame as per
+{{migrate-validate}}, but the server MUST continue sending all other packets
+from its original IP address.
+
+Once the server has received a non-probing packet on its preferred address which
+is the largest packet number seen so far, the server begins sending to the
+client exclusively from its preferred IP address.
+
+
+## Interaction of Client and Server Migration
+
+A client might need to perform a connection migration before the server's
+connection migration has completed.  In this case, the client SHOULD perform
+path validation to both the original and preferred server address from the
+client's new address concurrently.

I think that this is problematic. Managing two migrations concurrently is just hard. Though your stated design works (effectively trialing all three new paths), it's unnecessarily complicated.

I would revise the client migration and forbid it (or state that it isn't going to work) until the server has finished its migration. That is, the client has to wait until after the server's migration occurs. The odds that a client is forced to migrate in this period is low enough that starting over might be better than taking on the combinatorial mess. That way leads to ICE.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +QUIC allows servers to accept connections on one IP address and attempt to
+transfer these connections to a more preferred address shortly after the
+handshake.  This section describes the protocol for migrating a connection to a
+new server address.
+
+Migrating a connection to a new server address mid-connection is left for future
+work. If a client receives packets from a new server address not indicated by
+the preferred_address transport parameter, the client SHOULD discard these
+packets.
+
+### Initiating Connection Migration
+
+A server initiates connection migration by including the preferred_address
+transport parameter in the TLS handshake.
+
+Once the handshake is finished, the client MUST initiate path validation (see

A potential problem here is that the client concludes that the handshake is finished before the server does. That leads to retransmissions of the client Finished getting confused. I can't see any concrete issues (other than the ones we already have), but you should convince yourself that it's OK.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +A client might need to perform a connection migration before the server's
+connection migration has completed.  In this case, the client SHOULD perform
+path validation to both the original and preferred server address from the
+client's new address concurrently.
+
+If path validation of the server's preferred address succeeds, the client MUST
+abandon validation of the original address and migrate to using the server's
+preferred address.  If path validation of the server's preferred address fails,
+but validation of the server's original address succeeds, the client MAY migrate
+to using the original address from the client's new address.
+
+If the connection to the server's preferred address is not from the same client
+address, the server MUST protect against potential attacks as described in
+{{address-spoofing}} and {{on-path-spoofing}}.  In addition to intentional
+simultaneous migration, this might also occur because the client's access
+network used a different NAT binding for the server's preferred address.

This could be clearer: the server probes toward the client when? After receiving a probe (no?), or after receiving non-probing packets (yes?).

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1558,7 +1583,7 @@ failure. Primarily, this happens if a connection migration to a new path is
 initiated while a path validation on the old path is in progress.
 
 
-## Connection Migration {#migration}
+## Client Connection Migration {#migration-client}

I don't think that we should make this "client" connection migration. This is the generic description, and the addition you made below is just a special case for the server that can be initiated during the handshake.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1791,6 +1811,64 @@ number. "packet_number_secret" is derived from the TLS key exchange,
 as described in Section 5.6 of {{QUIC-TLS}}.
 
 
+## Server Connection Migration {#migration-server}

I like (and prefer) the suggested name change.

When you say that not changing network attachment is a necessary assumption, why is that important? The new address will be validated and congestion control rebooted in the same way that any other migration would be. So even if this points to a completely different server instance (with keys being shipped across as needed), it still works.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +QUIC allows servers to accept connections on one IP address and attempt to
+transfer these connections to a more preferred address shortly after the
+handshake.  This section describes the protocol for migrating a connection to a
+new server address.
+
+Migrating a connection to a new server address mid-connection is left for future
+work. If a client receives packets from a new server address not indicated by
+the preferred_address transport parameter, the client SHOULD discard these
+packets.
+
+### Initiating Connection Migration
+
+A server initiates connection migration by including the preferred_address
+transport parameter in the TLS handshake.
+
+Once the handshake is finished, the client MUST initiate path validation (see

This feature is only effective if it can be relied upon. That said, it's a big deal, so we should talk about it.

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This proposal is sort of acting like ones own DNS server. I'm not agai= nst doing this, but I think are corner cases to consider.

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  • Certs are tied an IP and changing IP is an attack vector on the serve= rs configuration system - though being able to present a cert on the orig= inal addres gives some level comfort.

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The invariants don't say anything about non-UDP substrates, as you note, so I think it can be v2, because non-UDP substrates are out of scope.

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Draft 10 introduces a change in the definition of the QHKDF-Expand function.

It used to be

QHKDF-Expand(Secret, Label, Length) =             
                HKDF-Expand(Secret, QuicHkdfLabel, Length)

struct {
   uint16 length = Length;
   opaque label<6..255> = "QUIC " + Label;
   uint8 hashLength = 0;
} QuicHkdfLabel;

Now it's:

QHKDF-Expand(Secret, Label, Length) =    
                   HKDF-Expand(Secret, QhkdfExpandInfo, Length)

struct {
  uint16 length = Length;
  opaque label<6..255> = "QUIC " + Label;
} QhkdfExpandInfo;

Notice that the "hashlength" parameter has disappeared. The effect is to make the implementation incompatible with the TLS implementations of HKDF-Expand that assume the presence of an HKDF label. Now QUIC implementations need specific code to implement key derivation, and cannot easily reuse the TLS implementations. And that's a pain point.

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----==_mimepart_5abbe13e514fc_65b03fc1f4fd2f287409-- From nobody Wed Mar 28 11:41:25 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA4851271DF for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2018 11:41:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.607 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.607 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MgErLxaVi1vY for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2018 11:41:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD3061201F2 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2018 11:41:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 11:41:20 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1522262480; bh=/lFBuiekkWIodVbDsauafZqMFSglPRDiUG1ed5fJYZM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=2cOUtNBrWW2k0DonuzvEA26nFUmWYxyS46Z0t4israouBr2nawutk7HqXMN2JHo6q VhbfTnqAfF9FIKLP+TJ92l/Oyl/QhsV3MQfVT1SIxD2nAvPxKAYesC0pEKR2A2FWZH BAz1uMYfojpKhK0QCLWc2NbAfN+03WdvIdvtkfcE= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove unnecessary text from #1253 (#1254) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5abbe1d0ae186_24a22af8667f0ed427268d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 18:41:24 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5abbe1d0ae186_24a22af8667f0ed427268d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit No, actually, we discussed this in the editors' meeting. It's true for server migration as well -- the server prompts the client to probe the new address, but there too, the server does not switch until the client has probed successfully and switched over. In other words, there's an implicit assumption that the server has access to both addresses and never has a "make-after-break" transition. What it's not necessarily true for is P2P; at that point, you really need ICE or similar. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1254#issuecomment-376992906 ----==_mimepart_5abbe1d0ae186_24a22af8667f0ed427268d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

No, actually, we discussed this in the editors' meeting. It's true fo= r server migration as well -- the server prompts the client to probe the = new address, but there too, the server does not switch until the client h= as probed successfully and switched over. In other words, there's an imp= licit assumption that the server has access to both addresses and never h= as a "make-after-break" transition.

What it's not necessarily true for is P2P; at that point, you really n= eed ICE or similar.

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= ----==_mimepart_5abbe1d0ae186_24a22af8667f0ed427268d-- From nobody Wed Mar 28 11:44:41 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7B69127342 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2018 11:44:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.606 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.606 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iJOHP7FBLxBn for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2018 11:44:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o1.sgmail.github.com (o1.sgmail.github.com [192.254.114.176]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 361111201F2 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2018 11:44:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=gAAnRt+fiV0H/AiIXl/Ezvzbya0=; b=WXbfOHx0KUYWA+uG GzBfGpcPE9129HevdP6fOfOWq+0foZHWYK7SJj3r2h8s4koMz89AsrLFecam/0/j PeRnXSZbs4Jl5iWkfkjmckFMUtl0VoOmASNVin7JkqFthMaM6XZut0+raf8DDoV5 I/P16EzUm048apir7zxKz5+3qV0= Received: by filter0380p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0380p1iad2-30478-5ABBE293-1C 2018-03-28 18:44:35.32723957 +0000 UTC Received: from smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) by ismtpd0003p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id f1g3YkccQCmNMSETdNMdgQ for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2018 18:44:35.452 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 18:44:35 +0000 (UTC) From: Christian Huitema Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gratuitous change of QHKDF-Expand in draft 10 (#1255) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5abbe29377094_19622ad749508ed04711b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: huitema X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak2w7aXU1Z3ykLZGey/XKu+uN22LWJ35fNwh4x chNWs/iLa+s0dDzNS3FbwY7lHdw2+zP8yoe4zh5Wpa8h/JyGJx5sW/o/gp5tOI0rjfh5ATOqVuk/cZ H1EdGc9O8WEqQzfdWjWzN/9g9gin7p3kIWh56sufACXjTAw4P+XkISq1/CKfL6QXOCLIXuLtfL82PX 8= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 18:44:40 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5abbe29377094_19622ad749508ed04711b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, I guess it happened some time ago. But it only made its way into draft 10, we are just starting interop tests on draft-10, and of course we are finding out the issue now rather than when reviewing #1077. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1255#issuecomment-376993911 ----==_mimepart_5abbe29377094_19622ad749508ed04711b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Yes, I guess it happened some time ago. But it only made its way into draft 10, we are just starting interop tests on draft-10, and of course we are finding out the issue now rather than when reviewing #1077.

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#1077 also changed the label. No complaint about that, I see.

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Agree with Christian on these TLS changes being a pain.

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As do I. Actually the prefix change is also a pain...

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----==_mimepart_5abd086d7c38e_76cc2af6f7b80ed431027-- From nobody Thu Mar 29 08:46:51 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2004D12DA17 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 08:46:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.605 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.605 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IUbRbuWlXPp0 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 08:46:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o5.sgmail.github.com (o5.sgmail.github.com [192.254.113.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7CA3412DA15 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 08:46:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=8s7RiosP4/pC0rmcVO+k5ctJO8o=; b=v/9ilKTTRiyAjiyL QkZ5JttmemPIE1w1ZmQ86xWlgcmyzlYVQNP9yEg5xCqf88VK6HvpIXiD0U0JexYX 8xMsTJSJuEhO6Sxudx3/4U7t1O2vQEb918gqeuRkCDHAb54KJ2IN8a/d6Zh6do20 lo/tKw2K7t3ZIwrdzUdV6lJgnTU= Received: by filter0023p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0023p1las1-2369-5ABD0A65-1A 2018-03-29 15:46:45.567829194 +0000 UTC Received: from smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) by ismtpd0004p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id JuGr8PEwQvmqzxOF4EtQ3Q for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 15:46:45.470 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2018 15:46:45 +0000 (UTC) From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gratuitous change of QHKDF-Expand in draft 10 (#1255) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5abd0a656052e_aa02b22c14a2ec8922e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak2lK4d1HrPp14E79z6TFNvi+/esjWSDTyZbso 7dUa2+Bo415wxYPuOorSWhUOtQxqZT24VUpSlkNL5lzDPKLbjr7n6gMWG8Ur/SgiqnJQT0OcJwIMDC FVELCIgtc7Be7PfYaTJlzC3SKLkWhbZwbOvvAnM3RwOE9SZJpBqCrCTnv7XYQGSB0cWmXuBP99Ywlm w= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2018 15:46:49 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5abd0a656052e_aa02b22c14a2ec8922e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just to provide a counter side of things; the label change wasn't a big issue for my implementation. The logic was already QUIC specific. Just a two line change: ![image](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/20663557/38098669-87b21796-332d-11e8-9a8e-61d2d28691f2.png) -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1255#issuecomment-377279250 ----==_mimepart_5abd0a656052e_aa02b22c14a2ec8922e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Just to provide a counter side of things; the label change wasn't a big = issue for my implementation. The logic was already QUIC specific. Just a tw= o line change:

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Well, of course that's only a one line change. The problem is that it is= a one line change in a function deep in the TLS implementation. I ended up= having to duplicate three functions from the TLS stack, i.e. 60 some lines= of cut-and-paste code + a dozen references, all so that I can change one l= ine. I hate having to do that kind of stuff.

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@huitema That's true, but this is a genera= l problem with flow control no matter what we do with the handshake. In o= ther words, a production server implementation will have to kill stalled = connections regardless, stream 0 or not. The current stream 0 language in= troduces a new attack that is not possible on other streams.

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= ----==_mimepart_5abd5f2ce6a7b_6a003fcb46104f2c49607f-- From nobody Thu Mar 29 15:23:26 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E334512E89E for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 15:23:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.606 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.606 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zKuvIydG4ivo for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 15:23:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3387312E858 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 15:23:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2018 15:23:21 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1522362201; bh=S5Nxz3ySggkxec6BovH6NKGoON+HdCWH5GgIK6YPIIw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=aSP7FRCfwYBBcgVUh3cfpRx1RluFiW6Fw5BIcfA2osajyM6m+6Z2m7sppS2TH4a7x h4miZAJkRuqWOj4aFFJmFrZBdJn+9QUCyDDwh83qR+UgW30WZ0ydiFRiO260VzQc33 bIsJqWaLL63751yNro/fjYLxVbGxi23nTOeTqdFk= From: Christian Huitema Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Stream Flow Control on Stream 0 (#1252) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5abd67594fd38_11e33fd74af68f2c12012a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: huitema X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2018 22:23:25 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5abd67594fd38_11e33fd74af68f2c12012a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @martinduke sure, but during the handshake the bulk of stream zero data is sent from server to client. The Client Initial can carry at most 1200 bytes, and the second client flight is typically only a few hundred bytes. The only purpose of flow control would be to limit the amount of data sent in the server first flight -- and we already have text about only sending three packets before requesting a path check. I really wonder where the attack might be. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1252#issuecomment-377390706 ----==_mimepart_5abd67594fd38_11e33fd74af68f2c12012a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@martinduke sure, but during the hands= hake the bulk of stream zero data is sent from server to client. The Clie= nt Initial can carry at most 1200 bytes, and the second client flight is = typically only a few hundred bytes. The only purpose of flow control woul= d be to limit the amount of data sent in the server first flight -- and w= e already have text about only sending three packets before requesting a = path check. I really wonder where the attack might be.

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----==_mimepart_5abd691124681_2ec443ff9fcc4ef388922f-- From nobody Thu Mar 29 15:38:33 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C08F128D2E for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 15:38:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.605 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.605 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id w2vRu243brvd for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 15:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o10.sgmail.github.com (o10.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 133AE12783A for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 15:38:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=FrxUgj8EfhOjdprNlMxywphHWxU=; b=b+i8OqwUNBUmWk7j x4j/Mc+XpzNmHPeAhzd5yyweTmaMlcxm3yodrNy2xY3ZtoiM9M/n+NW1A7KJnsI5 D7Vg2yUxs0qSjp2xVV8fkiwGnpEmg8kJmDIKI0cSDD+Kb79TlEJl26AjagskpPBg hFsaI587daKtlMCeC7Ui+irvtMY= Received: by filter0283p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0283p1las1-17673-5ABD6AE5-5 2018-03-29 22:38:29.233557817 +0000 UTC Received: from smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) by ismtpd0041p1mdw1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id uJOe3IwcQU-bkZMrt7MnsQ for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 22:38:29.106 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2018 22:38:29 +0000 (UTC) From: Christian Huitema Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Stream Flow Control on Stream 0 (#1252) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5abd6ae4e362e_7e353ffafd25af34630c6"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: huitema X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak0tD2CSzX3FyO/RmTzCsRdd/zou8v17RX/dFP unJ9fnAujV9CBKaDtbrEuLfEZcfIs/O7PHnPT0DlwNou4LcVzW/+q9OGdGVYhKVQeL+0bQf1VswLNU vJTmfxRcQWHqczngBHxThAuKYAbC9AbzupQYacROoFw4jgZJ3PXa5z87EHUYfJh7VDHjl15NcW1sFH w= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2018 22:38:32 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5abd6ae4e362e_7e353ffafd25af34630c6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So the attack happens when a server requires a client cert, and the client sends back something humongous. Not sure that flow control is the right tool there. Feels more like "don't send me a certificate larger than X". Also, nasty clients could use certificate compression in interesting ways, despite the flow control limit. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1252#issuecomment-377393854 ----==_mimepart_5abd6ae4e362e_7e353ffafd25af34630c6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

So the attack happens when a server requires a client cert, and the clie= nt sends back something humongous. Not sure that flow control is the right = tool there. Feels more like "don't send me a certificate larger than X".

Also, nasty clients could use certificate compression in interesting way= s, despite the flow control limit.

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I assume that TLS has some defenses against garbage cert chains - or m= ore precisely, this is not a problem for QUIC. The specific issue is when= offsets are deliberately missing -- then there's just a bunch of junk si= tting in the stream 0 receive buffer.

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Flow control only makes sense in 2 cases 1. The transport is going to buffer something and the application will choo= se not to read it 2. The sender can make a different decision based on the flow control Tls messages are sent in records which are 16kb large. As soo. As the trans= port receives a message on the crypto stream it is going to read it out wit= h the highest priority and supply it to the tls layer. This means that buff= ering is done at the tls later and not at the transport later. Also the tls= layer only buffers 16k at a time and not all the data. Another layer of bu= ffering happens at the asn parser for certificates. If this layer gets too = big tls implementations can just close the connection unilaterally. The tls= layer has a much better idea of how much is buffered than the transport la= yer so the transport layer should not do flow control. Secondly what is the receiver going to do if it has 1 cert but it cannot se= nd it? Will it choose a different smaller cert dynamically? This would be b= ad because it=E2=80=99s not based on authenticated information. I would rat= e this as analogous choosing the cert based on sigalgs if the sigalgs were = not authenticated. So if the sender cannot make a different choice dynamica= lly, the user of the api has to analyze the data and make a config change l= ater. I=E2=80=99m inclined to say that each side maintains their own private limi= t which is reasonably large and they can change it, and it you=E2=80=99re s= ending uber large Certs, don=E2=80=99t do that. We could possibly have the tls layer incidicate some informational aspect o= f what it=E2=80=99s buffereing limit is to the peer but not need to track i= t for sending but only for later analysis=20 --=20 You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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I think crypto stream is actually special in this case and doesn=E2=80= =99t need flow control. Flow control only makes sense in 2 cases

  1. The transport is going to buffer something and the application will cho= ose not to read it
  2. The sender can make a different decision based on the flow control

Tls messages are sent in records which are 16kb large. As soo. As the tr= ansport receives a message on the crypto stream it is going to read it out = with the highest priority and supply it to the tls layer. This means that b= uffering is done at the tls later and not at the transport later. Also the = tls layer only buffers 16k at a time and not all the data. Another layer of= buffering happens at the asn parser for certificates. If this layer gets t= oo big tls implementations can just close the connection unilaterally. The = tls layer has a much better idea of how much is buffered than the transport= layer so the transport layer should not do flow control.

Secondly what is the receiver going to do if it has 1 cert but it cannot= send it? Will it choose a different smaller cert dynamically? This would b= e bad because it=E2=80=99s not based on authenticated information. I would = rate this as analogous choosing the cert based on sigalgs if the sigalgs we= re not authenticated. So if the sender cannot make a different choice dynam= ically, the user of the api has to analyze the data and make a config chang= e later.

I=E2=80=99m inclined to say that each side maintains their own private l= imit which is reasonably large and they can change it, and it you=E2=80=99r= e sending uber large Certs, don=E2=80=99t do that.

We could possibly have the tls layer incidicate some informational aspec= t of what it=E2=80=99s buffereing limit is to the peer but not need to trac= k it for sending but only for later analysis

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How does that relate to crypto after handshake, notably client
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I also feel the pain.

I think it is beneficial for most of us to be able to reuse the AEAD con= struction function that we have in our TLS stacks.

It might make sense to change BaseLabel to something other than t= ls13.

But I would prefer to keep all other parameters the same, so that the on= ly change we need to make to our TLS stacks would be to provide a way of pa= ssing the BaseLabel as the argument.

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@siyengar I think you missed an important cas= e for flow control: to limit how much has to be stored in the receive buffe= r until holes in the sequence number space are filled. Indeed, that's the e= ntire point of this issue. In most implementations, buffering at the TLS la= yer is irrelevant if these sequence number gaps exist.

If a client cert is too large, then a well-behaved server will not provi= de the credits to deliver the entire thing until the first chunk arrives in= its entirety so that it can be assembled and passed up to TLS. This is how= things work in TCP, and I don't see that it's a hard problem modulo @MikeBishop's point about spoofed MAX_STREAM_DATA fr= ames.

What is the point of maintaining private, independent limits? This is ju= st flow control without explicit signaling! It can lead to many difficult q= uestions about whether or not to ack such a packet, which implies that the = data was processed when it wasn't.

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Removing the gratuitous change of QHKDF-Expand in draft 10, resolving issue #1255

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  • Merge pull request #2 from quicwg/master
  • Re-adding the missing hashing component to QhkdfExpandInfo.

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Proposing PR #1256 to restore compatibility and resolve this issue.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +time during the connection after the handshake is completed.  If this packet
+contains a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, the server sends a PATH_RESPONSE frame as per
+{{migrate-validate}}, but the server MUST continue sending all other packets
+from its original IP address.
+
+Once the server has received a non-probing packet on its preferred address which
+is the largest packet number seen so far, the server begins sending to the
+client exclusively from its preferred IP address.
+
+
+## Interaction of Client and Server Migration
+
+A client might need to perform a connection migration before the server's
+connection migration has completed.  In this case, the client SHOULD perform
+path validation to both the original and preferred server address from the
+client's new address concurrently.

Let's keep it simple. This PR is about triggering a migration at the end of the handshake. Given the prevalence of NAT, the path challenge sent by the client to a new server address will very often arrive at the server with a different source address than the source address of the client initial packet, and there is not much the client can do about that. The default source address of the client might also change, but from a server point of view that's just the same as any client migration. So in most cases we will see "challenge from client, response and challenge from server, response from client." Both server and clients will have to consider whether sending data before the verification completes, but that's what they always do.

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----==_mimepart_5abe732fe44f7_3cb42b294cfeeed071140-- From nobody Fri Mar 30 10:32:15 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C8A0127076 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2018 10:32:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BAxjPGWXAWlA for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2018 10:32:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E78E212704A for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2018 10:32:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2018 10:32:10 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1522431130; bh=pNmCStKtv+rEPNSInighyfAEdaAcpwyFzJKRAlhD/JQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=BbfWDLORqZ/ddB5OMfHjzc/IWRM/nQjNcqIWyCa7KsekTxUmoJBfhioFFTFAk5c7e Hv408S/eFml/aE555KKnAM/+Hlnn0L8LWFCjmi1CawBev8r3d5hGRbHqo7rJOwXDAn C4JdERvMSSjN0j9oUQYUP3Yn4N5uJ/WYHBBXEg5M= From: Christian Huitema Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Server's preferred address (#1251) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5abe749a4be1a_19ba3f94ac6d8f288453f"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: huitema X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2018 17:32:13 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5abe749a4be1a_19ba3f94ac6d8f288453f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit huitema commented on this pull request. > @@ -1485,6 +1505,11 @@ path validation with other frames. For instance, an endpoint may pad a packet carrying a PATH_CHALLENGE for PMTU discovery, or an endpoint may bundle a PATH_RESPONSE with its own PATH_CHALLENGE. +Differences in routing on the Internet might cause the same destination address +and connection ID to reach a different server instance which does not posses the +necessary connection state. Receiving a Stateless Reset in response to a probing +packet SHOULD NOT terminate the connection, but MUST cause the endpoint to +consider path validation to have failed. Really? The use case is that the server sends both a unicast address and a connection ID. In theory, the unicast address guarantees that the packet will reach the specific server farm that sent the redirect, and the connection ID guarantees that the load balancer will send the packet to the right server in the farm. Receiving a stateless reset is an indication that something is seriously wrong. Or maybe you are not addressing this specific PR, but rather making a generic statement about probes. In which case I would suggest moving this to a different PR. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1251#discussion_r178333923 ----==_mimepart_5abe749a4be1a_19ba3f94ac6d8f288453f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@huitema commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1485,6 +1505,11 @@ path validation with other frames.  For instance, an endpoint may pad a packet
 carrying a PATH_CHALLENGE for PMTU discovery, or an endpoint may bundle a
 PATH_RESPONSE with its own PATH_CHALLENGE.
 
+Differences in routing on the Internet might cause the same destination address
+and connection ID to reach a different server instance which does not posses the
+necessary connection state. Receiving a Stateless Reset in response to a probing
+packet SHOULD NOT terminate the connection, but MUST cause the endpoint to
+consider path validation to have failed.

Really? The use case is that the server sends both a unicast address and a connection ID. In theory, the unicast address guarantees that the packet will reach the specific server farm that sent the redirect, and the connection ID guarantees that the load balancer will send the packet to the right server in the farm. Receiving a stateless reset is an indication that something is seriously wrong.

Or maybe you are not addressing this specific PR, but rather making a generic statement about probes. In which case I would suggest moving this to a different PR.

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OK, the independent limit is a hidden tripwire to tear down the connection. Why is that superior to explicitly using the existing flow control message to tell the client not to exceed that?

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OK, the independent limit is a hidden tripwire to tear down the connec= tion. Why is that superior to explicitly using the existing flow control = message to tell the client not to exceed that?

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----==_mimepart_5abeb78cd61de_12c23f8a7d750f34679e0-- From nobody Fri Mar 30 18:03:33 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B9C3124234 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2018 18:03:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.392 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.392 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id q24RupakrBmS for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2018 18:03:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C4FDC1205F0 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2018 18:03:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2018 18:03:29 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1522458209; bh=PBWsl9SjB4GRt3Q/KhMvLl510yrTN/fKIs2MFV8Ord0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=uZFUBPQUu7MiAS3RTMR1Hu7xFyKmPHB5TmP+L3TOhK3zvn9GeO8XMtAqm3PfXFwgP QK7FqjWOOBinNoeW8FVHiMQsC3dJ8g7dbK11T04c00fFvBl8EwcwS4o4OQQa9aTN/C UuGxcXCKNbaCsDx16KHHUo4b3xHr5e+sPEUTmK4s= From: Tatsuhiro Tsujikawa Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] How to recover from loss of 3 Handshake packets without receiving PATH_RESPONSE (#1257) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5abede61d240a_67993faa5b79cf302900fc"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: tatsuhiro-t X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2018 01:03:32 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5abede61d240a_67993faa5b79cf302900fc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Draft 10 introduces PATH_CHALLENGE and PATH_RESPONSE, and it imposes a restriction on server that it cannot send more than 3 Handshake packets without receiving a packet from a verified source address. The guidance is include PATH_CHALLENGE in each packets and wait for PATH_RESPONSE from client. What if all 3 Handshake packets are lost? ACK is also lost, client just keeps re-sending its Initial packet (note that Initial packet cannot include PATH_RESPONSE). Server has sent 3 Handshake packets, so it cannot send any more packets. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1257 ----==_mimepart_5abede61d240a_67993faa5b79cf302900fc Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Draft 10 introduces PATH_CHALLENGE and PATH_RESPONSE, and it imposes a restriction on server that it cannot send more than 3 Handshake packets without receiving a packet from a verified source address. The guidance is include PATH_CHALLENGE in each packets and wait for PATH_RESPONSE from client.
What if all 3 Handshake packets are lost? ACK is also lost, client just keeps re-sending its Initial packet (note that Initial packet cannot include PATH_RESPONSE). Server has sent 3 Handshake packets, so it cannot send any more packets.

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Would this be in draft-11, and would we use that for the remote interop?

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My point w= as that all these cases are related. A receiver uses flow control to limit = the amount of buffering it does without processing the bytes. Let=E2=80=99s= assume we did have a way to do dynamic flow control in cleartext. I still = believe that there is no use of doing so. In the absence of an attacker the= re are 2 cases: 1. Reciever can buffer more bytes than sender has. No problem, flow control= doesn=E2=80=99t come in use here 2. Reciever can buffer less bytes at once than the sender has to send. In t= his case normally a reciever would use flow control. However in the case of= a large cert the receiver is baisclally buffering these bytes just in the = tls buffers. At this point flow control was really facetious. So a rational= receiver would set the limit to be the limit that the tls layer would be w= illing to buffer anyway. Ok now that the limit is the tls layers limit, if = this limit is less than what the sender wants to send, the sender is screwe= d anyway regardless of whether there is flow control. Also since the limit = is the size of the tls buffer, that is the same limit the quic stream later= should enforce for out of order data. At this point there is no use of exp= licitly signaled flow control What is really the problem here is that there is really a hard limit that t= he reciever has that if the sender cannot satisfy there is no point of nego= tiation. So we have to assume that people set reasonable limits and call it= a day=20 --=20 You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1252#issuecomment-377686503= ----==_mimepart_5abf71812653c_6d6b3f825fe4ef281179f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Sorry i should have probably been more clear in my last comment. My poin= t was that all these cases are related. A receiver uses flow control to lim= it the amount of buffering it does without processing the bytes. Let=E2=80= =99s assume we did have a way to do dynamic flow control in cleartext. I st= ill believe that there is no use of doing so. In the absence of an attacker= there are 2 cases:

  1. Reciever can buffer more bytes than sender has. No problem, flow contro= l doesn=E2=80=99t come in use here
  2. Reciever can buffer less bytes at once than the sender has to send. In = this case normally a reciever would use flow control. However in the case o= f a large cert the receiver is baisclally buffering these bytes just in the= tls buffers. At this point flow control was really facetious. So a rationa= l receiver would set the limit to be the limit that the tls layer would be = willing to buffer anyway. Ok now that the limit is the tls layers limit, if= this limit is less than what the sender wants to send, the sender is screw= ed anyway regardless of whether there is flow control. Also since the limit= is the size of the tls buffer, that is the same limit the quic stream late= r should enforce for out of order data. At this point there is no use of ex= plicitly signaled flow control

What is really the problem here is that there is really a hard limit tha= t the reciever has that if the sender cannot satisfy there is no point of n= egotiation. So we have to assume that people set reasonable limits and call= it a day

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----==_mimepart_5ac03187d279f_47543fe5c7c86f3011922d7-- From nobody Sat Mar 31 18:24:53 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AAC0127137 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2018 18:24:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.606 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.606 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VVH5-KuEtL_v for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2018 18:24:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o5.sgmail.github.com (o5.sgmail.github.com [192.254.113.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 920261200FC for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2018 18:24:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=p0v3aPWCxu5CGZpvIXWEhKQb3NE=; b=eIt3HMjoJwEX2P1q KduGwxF/5dK/PX83l5tdrOw9nPRENc0yU1E0mjUn9NKmyU81btR1dFhHjf26S/hd XIwFTItItgzDAqMBwvyT9S58zTqVEgILl0vunlIibTUW7joBo9G6m/qVFCN9x1sw tWbyPlgcnH7I4mJFKSM0QlraO3w= Received: by filter0648p1mdw1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0648p1mdw1-6593-5AC034E1-E 2018-04-01 01:24:49.583597391 +0000 UTC Received: from smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) by ismtpd0023p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id 4z2k9keGTvixzuop-qkUuw for ; Sun, 01 Apr 2018 01:24:49.578 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2018 01:24:49 +0000 (UTC) From: Praveen Balasubramanian Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Stream Flow Control on Stream 0 (#1252) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ac034e171103_48723f825fe4ef2896155"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: pravb X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak0B2gvsbtcHnIe5j0cTSE5bYuJg1r2rySJi3a U3P/Wkj1h6BIWE0UR10iGyCYZOh/00XOEXCc1402KIJZwGPL9CJpD6lBgE+SKHPc7+AS/nqEobh+kt BQD5Cubq6ZN30m0byfKhVgQaPContg/JM13XgTedlpSAnpdbRLDZPtnA5u+sHbB9igtiPyBTkYkHrR Q= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2018 01:24:52 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ac034e171103_48723f825fe4ef2896155 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If there are reasonable limits that are not communicated or negotiated, should there be an error code to reset the connection if that limit is exceeded? I see that the recovery draft talks about a dedicated alarm and retransmissions for handshake data but doesn't explicitly say anything about congestion control for stream 0. Do we need a separate issue for whether congestion control should be applied to stream 0? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1252#issuecomment-377735611 ----==_mimepart_5ac034e171103_48723f825fe4ef2896155 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

If there are reasonable limits that are not communicated or negotiated, = should there be an error code to reset the connection if that limit is exce= eded?

I see that the recovery draft talks about a dedicated alarm and retransm= issions for handshake data but doesn't explicitly say anything about conges= tion control for stream 0. Do we need a separate issue for whether congesti= on control should be applied to stream 0?

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= ----==_mimepart_5ac034e171103_48723f825fe4ef2896155-- From nobody Sat Mar 31 18:28:23 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E3C0127137 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2018 18:28:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.392 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.392 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cUw27dBo8SMP for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2018 18:28:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B64021200FC for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2018 18:28:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2018 18:28:18 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1522546098; bh=XNigyeUmS3+RPYOq0XNhDlcZfrp8jBM4J+O3H3rZgIY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=O1KkIs5uWauXl6gWE0iEMvJY+mVG1O/O6KUUi0VuWFIbdJGJNSUAuo8bp9z9pRJOQ ZURayiNTMF6CmM+IDeJHOW/ozXcBVAXoK6J1F7L3iN+w8hL7Zd0Yfz88AGHkkUQYcN M8ljeu5qpP8YiPFYDzM1N7srxyQKTudkb+RajdVc= From: Praveen Balasubramanian Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Stream Flow Control on Stream 0 (#1252) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ac035b2c0a32_9c72b1cbc8f8ec4817012"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: pravb X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2018 01:28:21 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ac035b2c0a32_9c72b1cbc8f8ec4817012 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I suppose it is implicit that congestion control is applied to all streams since it is at the packet level, but we have special cased handshake data. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1252#issuecomment-377735778 ----==_mimepart_5ac035b2c0a32_9c72b1cbc8f8ec4817012 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I suppose it is implicit that congestion control is applied to all streams since it is at the packet level, but we have special cased handshake data.

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