From nobody Wed Aug 1 00:03:19 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68123130FB4 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 00:03:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.204 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.204 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=1.2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 151hnEZzthda for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 00:03:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from m69-170.mailgun.net (m69-170.mailgun.net [166.78.69.170]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 020CC130F53 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 00:03:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; v=1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; q=dns/txt; s=mailo; t=1533106995; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type: Mime-Version: Subject: Message-ID: To: Reply-To: From: Date: Sender; bh=uOh7zJ5lfpbI1a6lbcfGyYCP0u5FS6pHtL311PzvHZ8=; b=GtbMgQIBDJDDEJW+F0SPovIwYqOf9S3bTAm8vBdop6afpxkHEicvPwePUTMJpXvlrLo5mG4L HWCrSVNHFpWxxPmICBlSh97j49CkTyaiI5+uc0FIyCOD2L0OBD+aDBcdcj7IG/esN7mY5GG7 0jDTA8um09xATwBxpdjUBVtlGZQ= X-Mailgun-Sending-Ip: 166.78.69.170 X-Mailgun-Sid: WyJhNzYyYiIsICJxdWljLWlzc3Vlc0BpZXRmLm9yZyIsICI0MGYiXQ== Sender: martin.thomson=gmail.com@github.com Received: from github.com (Unknown [192.30.252.34]) by mxa.mailgun.org with ESMTP id 5b615b32.7fb0389f47e0-smtp-out-n03; Wed, 01 Aug 2018 07:03:14 -0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2018 00:03:13 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: <5b615b31be558_58f62af852eacf846591b@hookshot-fe-7191cb1.cp1-iad.github.net.mail> Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] 9917d6: Use largest_acked consistently (#1611) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b615b31be1fc_58f62af852eacf84658f2"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2018 07:03:18 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b615b31be1fc_58f62af852eacf84658f2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Branch: refs/heads/ping-pong Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: 9917d6eef56ecac07d4e69dd4740595a7301af8a https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9917d6eef56ecac07d4e69dd4740595a7301af8a Author: ianswett Date: 2018-08-01 (Wed, 01 Aug 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Use largest_acked consistently (#1611) Use largest acknowledged consistently Commit: 34c20d8962298540e374a1bd646cda0c9fab0b70 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/34c20d8962298540e374a1bd646cda0c9fab0b70 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-08-01 (Wed, 01 Aug 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Defend against endless Stateless Reset ping-pong This implements the agreed defenses, giving implementations a suite of choices. 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This implements the agreed defenses, giving implementations a suite of
choices. None of these a non-deterministic, as agreed.

Closes #1443.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1627

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +#### Looping {#reset-looping}
+
+The design of a Stateless Reset is such that it is indistinguishable from a
+valid packet.  This means that a Stateless Reset might trigger the sending of a
+Stateless Reset in response, which could lead to infinite exchanges.  An
+endpoint MUST use any one of the following measures to limit the sending of
+Stateless Reset:
+
+* An endpoint can remember the number of Stateless Reset packets that it has
+  sent and stop generating new Stateless Reset packets once a limit is reached.
+  Using separate limits for different remote addresses will ensure that
+  Stateless Reset packets can be used for some peers even when other peers have
+  exhausted limits.
+
+* An endpoint can set the TTL in the IP header to one fewer than the TTL in the
+  packet that it received.  Once the TTL reaches zero, any looping ends.

This only works if both endpoints do this, right?

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@marten-seemann commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +Note that Stateless Reset packets do not have any cryptographic protection.
+
+
+#### Looping {#reset-looping}
+
+The design of a Stateless Reset is such that it is indistinguishable from a
+valid packet.  This means that a Stateless Reset might trigger the sending of a
+Stateless Reset in response, which could lead to infinite exchanges.  An
+endpoint MUST use any one of the following measures to limit the sending of
+Stateless Reset:
+
+* An endpoint can remember the number of Stateless Reset packets that it has
+  sent and stop generating new Stateless Reset packets once a limit is reached.
+  Using separate limits for different remote addresses will ensure that
+  Stateless Reset packets can be used for some peers even when other peers have
+  exhausted limits.

I'm not sure if we discussed this anywhere, but if you're willing to keep some state around for a short period of time, wouldn't the easiest thing be to save the last 16 bytes of the packet (for each remote address), and if they match on two (non-identical) packets, you can be pretty sure that those are Stateless Resets.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2669,7 +2671,36 @@ the same static key (see {{reset-oracle}}).  A connection ID from a connection
 that is reset by revealing the Stateless Reset Token cannot be reused for new
 connections at nodes that share a static key.
 
-Note that Stateless Reset messages do not have any cryptographic protection.
+Note that Stateless Reset packets do not have any cryptographic protection.
+
+
+#### Looping {#reset-looping}
+
+The design of a Stateless Reset is such that it is indistinguishable from a
+valid packet.  This means that a Stateless Reset might trigger the sending of a
+Stateless Reset in response, which could lead to infinite exchanges.  An
+endpoint MUST use any one of the following measures to limit the sending of
+Stateless Reset:
+
+* An endpoint can remember the number of Stateless Reset packets that it has
+  sent and stop generating new Stateless Reset packets once a limit is reached.
+  Using separate limits for different remote addresses will ensure that

Would it make sense to suggest "using separate limits" for different DCIDs of the incoming packets in addition to "remote addresses"?

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I'm going to hold the line on MUST. The protocol doesn't make any sen= se if you get (valid) duplicates and don't discard them. Given that you = have to track what you are acknowledging, then the only additional cost i= s the threshold, which is nearly zero. It can even be zero if y= ou use the minimum value from what you are tracking.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +Note that Stateless Reset packets do not have any cryptographic protection.
+
+
+#### Looping {#reset-looping}
+
+The design of a Stateless Reset is such that it is indistinguishable from a
+valid packet.  This means that a Stateless Reset might trigger the sending of a
+Stateless Reset in response, which could lead to infinite exchanges.  An
+endpoint MUST use any one of the following measures to limit the sending of
+Stateless Reset:
+
+* An endpoint can remember the number of Stateless Reset packets that it has
+  sent and stop generating new Stateless Reset packets once a limit is reached.
+  Using separate limits for different remote addresses will ensure that
+  Stateless Reset packets can be used for some peers even when other peers have
+  exhausted limits.

If they use the technique we describe, the input to the calculation for a stateless reset is the connection ID from the inbound packet - and that is randomized in a stateless reset. So no winner there.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2669,7 +2671,36 @@ the same static key (see {{reset-oracle}}).  A connection ID from a connection
 that is reset by revealing the Stateless Reset Token cannot be reused for new
 connections at nodes that share a static key.
 
-Note that Stateless Reset messages do not have any cryptographic protection.
+Note that Stateless Reset packets do not have any cryptographic protection.
+
+
+#### Looping {#reset-looping}
+
+The design of a Stateless Reset is such that it is indistinguishable from a
+valid packet.  This means that a Stateless Reset might trigger the sending of a
+Stateless Reset in response, which could lead to infinite exchanges.  An
+endpoint MUST use any one of the following measures to limit the sending of
+Stateless Reset:
+
+* An endpoint can remember the number of Stateless Reset packets that it has
+  sent and stop generating new Stateless Reset packets once a limit is reached.
+  Using separate limits for different remote addresses will ensure that

Further segregating by destination connection ID might work, yes.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +#### Looping {#reset-looping}
+
+The design of a Stateless Reset is such that it is indistinguishable from a
+valid packet.  This means that a Stateless Reset might trigger the sending of a
+Stateless Reset in response, which could lead to infinite exchanges.  An
+endpoint MUST use any one of the following measures to limit the sending of
+Stateless Reset:
+
+* An endpoint can remember the number of Stateless Reset packets that it has
+  sent and stop generating new Stateless Reset packets once a limit is reached.
+  Using separate limits for different remote addresses will ensure that
+  Stateless Reset packets can be used for some peers even when other peers have
+  exhausted limits.
+
+* An endpoint can set the TTL in the IP header to one fewer than the TTL in the
+  packet that it received.  Once the TTL reaches zero, any looping ends.

Yeah, it would also work if the Stateless Reset were the same size as the triggering packet (on the assumption that the peer is applying one of the other techniques), but that's pretty marginal, so I'm going to cut this option.

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Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b6162b867847_12d42ac7b5300f785178d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2018 07:45:24 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b6162b867847_12d42ac7b5300f785178d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: 83c3971625eb2ee210d6777ee90bd786fcb12adc https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/83c3971625eb2ee210d6777ee90bd786fcb12adc Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-08-01 (Wed, 01 Aug 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Fix broken references from transport draft, fixes #1618. 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Commit: eb4d2237554c3ff8e2d632fb0e663b51d1c55f3b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/eb4d2237554c3ff8e2d632fb0e663b51d1c55f3b Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-08-01 (Wed, 01 Aug 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1623 from quicwg/dangling-references Fix dangling references Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/aa6c356846a0...eb4d2237554c **NOTE:** This service has been marked for deprecation: https://developer.github.com/changes/2018-04-25-github-services-deprecation/ Functionality will be removed from GitHub.com on January 31st, 2019. ----==_mimepart_5b6162b867847_12d42ac7b5300f785178d-- From nobody Wed Aug 1 00:49:55 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93ADF130DF0 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 00:49:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.109 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.109 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Kgmi9lwkyPp7 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 00:49:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A953A130DCC for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 00:49:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2018 00:49:50 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533109790; bh=dCNq+gaKcj6RC9a6Jt0cNH88yzlY1bhSvdWivVtj1S4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=wACddkRDJ7picoq1o5bbtHqq3cpuPKilVXUdAaaNJ4b1XOrAjfElYEvvM8o+xJ+YM LvtybAiPZJhPZgTjgcq2ZTA/TRT0JamnZfFeqCYzNLyR8usKrojxayeSuzMw04Kt1k 1uRkifbxYtMXP1VVICDPAwuEKR38Nu5OVA3dsDrg= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Duplicates are dropped (#1624) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b61661eb7562_25753ffb5f4d45b4526d0"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2018 07:49:54 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b61661eb7562_25753ffb5f4d45b4526d0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > The protocol doesn't make any sense if you get (valid) duplicates and d= on't discard them. I think we have different opinions here. My understanding is that process= ing of a =E2=80=9Cvalid=E2=80=9D duplicate (i.e, a packet that has the sa= me PN and same payload as what have been observed earlier) is perfectly f= ine, because processing the payload of such packet does not cause any cha= nge in state. Processing of previously-observed frames are guaranteed to = be idempotent. -- = You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1624#issuecomment-409483467= ----==_mimepart_5b61661eb7562_25753ffb5f4d45b4526d0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The protocol doesn't make any sense if you get (valid) duplicates and = don't discard them.

I think we have different opinions here. My understanding is that proc= essing of a =E2=80=9Cvalid=E2=80=9D duplicate (i.e, a packet that has the= same PN and same payload as what have been observed earlier) is perfectl= y fine, because processing the payload of such packet does not cause any = change in state. Processing of previously-observed frames are guaranteed = to be idempotent.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b61661eb7562_25753ffb5f4d45b4526d0-- From nobody Wed Aug 1 00:55:08 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4772D131065 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 00:55:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.109 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.109 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FTzAKAkUwnNk for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 00:55:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 653FA130FDB for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 00:54:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2018 00:54:58 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533110098; bh=yjjbmXfUAaSbbpcyAoki9MuBr/5ZoTsveOvuluUWJR0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Yh/ZG3hxaeSDqcwq4fJrmeMcfb1TRP8DJZYeG81QT1mi1/40uMIeNoR+mnsSIF/ku Kzjt2qHcDB73bFX3DJulB9xqQpjwSoZI2XDq+BitROaPynjpyW1Gxkl764/Pcx/Wlb 7wpP7sXs36uZqPn7K/tdaiZCbmpEadjEJi0/mE8o= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Duplicates are dropped (#1624) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b616752b23d0_17683fdeb06d45c483773"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2018 07:55:07 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b616752b23d0_17683fdeb06d45c483773 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I tend to agree with @kazuho but on the other hand, taking that position forces all future frames and extensions to be idempotent. I'm not sure that is a good tradeoff. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1624#issuecomment-409484842 ----==_mimepart_5b616752b23d0_17683fdeb06d45c483773 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I tend to agree with @kazuho but on the other hand, taking that position forces all future frames and extensions to be idempotent. I'm not sure that is a good tradeoff.

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----==_mimepart_5b616752b23d0_17683fdeb06d45c483773-- From nobody Wed Aug 1 01:01:15 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DCE6130F66 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 01:01:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.109 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.109 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Cyk_kJe8YhrS for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 01:01:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-16.smtp.github.com (out-16.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.199]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8DCCC130DDB for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 01:01:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2018 01:01:10 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533110471; bh=AKrUKVdhXgC0npYqtgA6WB5RpabhMVO6Wt6kpKaTu74=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=03q5ub6qXzFIs1OHbcL5IYIaYjSgsuJax4ec4TiXs9pYqwsGvN9MzOuFTPIg4xElq H5cq7rV4S8Bs7Z/RWpQx0muf9UnAFTzbFmDp9ABxeB8g0De5Y1P/7cr32bB8uKFvWV R5zuD0LYFcIyBTg/0Pnjn9Vt5uetaK2erca1ZaEw= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Duplicates are dropped (#1624) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b6168c6c7088_17853f8f098be6249389b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2018 08:01:14 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b6168c6c7088_17853f8f098be6249389b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable @mikkelfj I=E2=80=99d argue that any frame that cause a change in state n= eeds to be retransmittable. We allow that by using different PNs. In my view, what we are arguing about is if we need to have a special rul= e for the case of receiving a =E2=80=9Cretransmitted=E2=80=9D frame using= same PN. -- = You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1624#issuecomment-409486602= ----==_mimepart_5b6168c6c7088_17853f8f098be6249389b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@mikkelfj I=E2=80=99d argue that a= ny frame that cause a change in state needs to be retransmittable. We all= ow that by using different PNs.

In my view, what we are arguing about is if we need to have a special = rule for the case of receiving a =E2=80=9Cretransmitted=E2=80=9D frame us= ing same PN.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b6168c6c7088_17853f8f098be6249389b-- From nobody Wed Aug 1 01:08:18 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF986130FCF for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 01:08:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.109 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.109 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nR5_Q72fm_fU for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 01:08:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 51F4D130DDB for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 01:08:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2018 01:08:14 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533110894; bh=eYopDq1AsoonC7bxoBzeM+J4OcCKumJVEZyF8L8DjfA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=oe1Ci0hUr2+0MBWw2yPvgVgw/xY3/LECrQklk0nFqIf/Zuv1aSst3LFUNwAX4Wj2Y 5VT8GTgAm2DvMIIkZnTSb1nsZ3ytIzQg+Q4omCTI9L2JGurvkp9cuNZY2MFBIR/Gbc ISaAzLhgDkMv7RcXtYdpS7hx9aoIf1PYwAdIxI+k= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Improve ACK_ECN frame encoding (e.g., use bit-vector) (#1439) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b616a6e8e139_1eb33fb99c2d45c097530"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2018 08:08:17 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b616a6e8e139_1eb33fb99c2d45c097530 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I like the idea of avoiding counters, but depending on how packet history is handled, couldn't this lead to more overhead? Consider a sliding bitmap tracking all packets that are not yet ACK'ed. If ECN state is explicit, more bits might be required in the bitmap - or they could just be dropped - but I am not sufficiently into ECN processing to tell. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1439#issuecomment-409488588 ----==_mimepart_5b616a6e8e139_1eb33fb99c2d45c097530 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I like the idea of avoiding counters, but depending on how packet hist= ory is handled, couldn't this lead to more overhead?

Consider a sliding bitmap tracking all packets that are not yet ACK'ed= . If ECN state is explicit, more bits might be required in the bitmap - o= r they could just be dropped - but I am not sufficiently into ECN process= ing to tell.

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In my view, what we are arguing about is if we need to have a special = rule for the case of receiving a =E2=80=9Cretransmitted=E2=80=9D frame us= ing same PN.

Which, as I see it, is the same as arguing if all frames must be idemp= otent. I do not disagree here.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b616b15a9515_131b3fa2eded45c0601d7-- From nobody Wed Aug 1 02:05:57 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23592130FB4 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 02:05:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.109 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.109 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yuXAVZNTMJpn for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 02:05:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 94771130E27 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 02:05:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2018 02:05:52 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533114352; bh=66/H9VqPaOd4RbBzaglZ349IiBmJ5OiCgieRrYZyX/w=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=WXBhtBYRsigvKHvTLGCtsdz9BFwxxb9OxqLeBgkqvoWBrSIJW/kBEdJg4JaprFVcB FuV88P9f5ZXZENmcVcvmTyYnjzQiPne9P3FZuzewzGxbS8AdcS0peg/Bnu0o7wqN7g Oz0kIGgkSha+VlerHtk3EK+Jtd22NAJIkfp+Dnww= From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] add code points for 1, 2 and 3 byte connection IDs (#1628) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b6177f03fa81_5a993fc0840be620234514"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2018 09:05:55 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b6177f03fa81_5a993fc0840be620234514 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This PR changes the invariants and the transport document to allow 1, 2 and 3 byte connection IDs as well. Fixes #1570. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1628 -- Commit Summary -- * add code points for 1, 2 and 3 byte connection IDs -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md (8) M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (22) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1628.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1628.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1628 ----==_mimepart_5b6177f03fa81_5a993fc0840be620234514 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

This PR changes the invariants and the transport document to allow 1, 2 and 3 byte connection IDs as well.

Fixes #1570.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1628

Commit Summary

  • add code points for 1, 2 and 3 byte connection IDs

File Changes

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Perhaps some advisory text on a CID lengths below 32 cannot be expected to be have the same uniqueness and unlinkability properties as longer CID's and should be considered for special purposes only, such as internal server P2P.

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@martinthomson That is an inte= resting design.

I can understand the motivation for having more bits to represent the = size of an ACK block using just one octet. OTOH, the complexity of the de= sign makes me anxious.

The issue with the design is that, if there is an exception (i.e. pack= ets received with more than two types of flags) you need to either iterat= e though the PN list more than once or to generate multiple ACK frames co= ncurrently while iterating though the PN list.

Honestly speaking, I think that the multi-modal block approach that us= es 2 bits per block (the one you suggested in
#1439 (comment)) is dense enough. It would mean that we can p= ack up to 16 packet numbers into a single-octet ACK block. I do not think= that spending a second octet for the 17th packet number is an issue, bec= ause it means spending at worst 0.5 bit more for every packet that you re= ceive.

If we need to care that much about the bandwidth consumed by ACKs, I t= hink we should rather consider how to reduce the frequency of sending ack= nowledgements, considering the fact that we have at least 18-octet overhe= ad for every packet that we send.

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anti-replay techniques, and if we don't do this, then we have to anal= yze
every single QUIC frame to guarantee it can't cause problems if repla= yed
(and moreover implementors need to enforce it). To take a simple example<= br> from earlier, consider the flow control frames: if we require duplicate suppression, then even if you miss the rule about things being
monotonically increasing, things are fine. However, if duplicates are
= allowed, and you make that mistake, then attackers can just replay a flow=
control frame and force you into a bad posture.

On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 12:23 AM, Martin Thomson <notifications@github.= com>
wrote:

> I'm going to hold the line on MUST. The protocol doesn't mak= e any sense if
> you get (valid) duplicates and don't discard them. Given that yo= u have to
> track what you are acknowledging, then the only additional cost is t= he
> threshold, which is nearly zero. It can even *be* zero if you use th= e
> minimum value from what you are tracking.
>
> What do you gain by having anything less than MUST? That is, other t= han
> the potential for crazy non-determinism.
>
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@ekr commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1065,6 +1066,12 @@ sending a packet with a number of 0x6b2d79 requires a packet number encoding
 with 14 bits or more; whereas the 30-bit packet number encoding is needed to
 send a packet with a number of 0x6bc107.
 
+An endpoint MUST discard packets with duplicate packet numbers.  That is, a
+packet is discarded if the reconstructed packet number is equal to the
+reconstructed packet number of a previously received and processed packet.  Note
+however that endpoints MUST attempt to remove packet protection before
+discarding packets (see Section 9.3 of {{QUIC-TLS}}).

I think i would put this in the TLS document S 5.4 instead. That way it's in logical order and this requirement seems like less of an aside.

Perhaps:

After unprotecting a packet, the receiver MUST check that it has not already processed
a packet with this PN and if so discard it. Duplicate suppression MUST happen after
the packet has been unprotected for the reasons described in Section 9.3. An efficient
algorithm for duplicate suppression can be found in RFC 2406 Section 3.4.3.```

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2596,10 +2597,11 @@ Using a randomized connection ID results in two problems:
 
 * The packet might not reach the peer.  If the Destination Connection ID is
   critical for routing toward the peer, then this packet could be incorrectly
-  routed.  This causes the stateless reset to be ineffective in causing errors
-  to be quickly detected and recovered.  In this case, endpoints will need to
-  rely on other methods - such as timers - to detect that the connection has
-  failed.
+  routed.  This might also triggering another Stateless Reset in response, see

s/triggering/trigger/ ?

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----==_mimepart_5b61c655d02b5_33e43fb136abe628235336-- From nobody Wed Aug 1 08:07:56 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A880130E03 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 08:07:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jgEAyZdRxwD9 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 08:07:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5042A1274D0 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 08:07:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2018 08:07:51 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533136071; bh=1i5W2nGQ/GqZ8BtoXVABF54o1PHeFAps5gNM+gIcD6U=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=S9bYlBqY+MpSPOjp7agULfmh9X17bLBWX61b4bj0HXde+3oKGlXbx9TSyOvzxbYCD x42ZgX6IL37egq/eWOrcjZ1Xe85oRtXgQOvE9xnObkYiETR5zhQGRzN32r5ORkNhKK vHpOOg3Iu91e9kEongToFAGVADXYe1GH4kdarJao= From: mirjak Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clarify use of the term "supports ECN" (#1631) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b61ccc72701f_1f443fcc554d45c015372d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mirjak X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2018 15:07:54 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b61ccc72701f_1f443fcc554d45c015372d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit See issue #158: "support" should only be used for the path. I have left two occasions where it is used for both the path and the peer but I think that is okay because it only addresses the case where there is no support. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1631 -- Commit Summary -- * Clarify use of the term "supports ECN" -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (29) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1631.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1631.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1631 ----==_mimepart_5b61ccc72701f_1f443fcc554d45c015372d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

See issue #158: "support" should only be used for the path. I have left two occasions where it is used for both the path and the peer but I think that is okay because it only addresses the case where there is no support.

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@ianswett approved this pull request.

I'm not sure I'd call this a 'security' consideration, but it's a consideration of some sort, so it's likely better in this section than elsewhere.

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This small change contains several other improvements, each with a clear
purpose behind it.

1. Replace the word "collection" with the word "set," as the former
   looks a lot like "connection."

2. Remove the "unlikely to be unique" parenthetical clause: it is
   obvious that there can only be one unique zero-length connection ID.

3. Drop the "assigned to it" part of the sentence, as it is unnecessary
   in this introductory paragraph.

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Commit Summary

  • Fix: a connection is not identified by a *collection*

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Suppressing reports of ECN-CE markings could cause a peer to increase +their send rate. This increase could result in congestion and loss. + +An endpoint MAY attempt to detect suppression of reports by marking occasional +packets that they send with ECN-CE. If a packet marked with ECN-CE is not +reported as having been marked when the packet is acknowledged, the endpoint +SHOULD then disable ECN for that path. + +Reporting additional ECN-CE markings will cause a peer to reduce their sending +rate, which is similar in effect to advertising reduced connection flow control +limits and so no advantage is gained by doing so. + +Endpoints choose the congestion controller that they use. Though congestion +controllers ideally use reports of ECN markings as input, the exact response for +each controller could be different. Failure to correctly respond to information +about ECN markings is therefore difficult to detect. Actually this is a bit weak. RFC3168 say "Upon the receipt by an ECN-Capable transport of a single CE packet, the congestion control algorithms followed at the end- systems MUST be essentially the same as the congestion control response to a single dropped packet." (where RFC8311 adds a "unless otherwise specified by an Experimental RFC in the IETF document stream" to this last sentence, however, this is not really important here). The text as currently written indicates that the congestion controller can choose to account for ECN information at all or not which is not the case. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1626#pullrequestreview-142453295 ----==_mimepart_5b61dc8f112ca_faf3ff7a02be620205556 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +peer.  Suppressing reports of ECN-CE markings could cause a peer to increase
+their send rate.  This increase could result in congestion and loss.
+
+An endpoint MAY attempt to detect suppression of reports by marking occasional
+packets that they send with ECN-CE.  If a packet marked with ECN-CE is not
+reported as having been marked when the packet is acknowledged, the endpoint
+SHOULD then disable ECN for that path.
+
+Reporting additional ECN-CE markings will cause a peer to reduce their sending
+rate, which is similar in effect to advertising reduced connection flow control
+limits and so no advantage is gained by doing so.
+
+Endpoints choose the congestion controller that they use.  Though congestion
+controllers ideally use reports of ECN markings as input, the exact response for
+each controller could be different.  Failure to correctly respond to information
+about ECN markings is therefore difficult to detect.

Actually this is a bit weak. RFC3168 say
"Upon the receipt by an ECN-Capable transport of a single CE
packet, the congestion control algorithms followed at the end-
systems MUST be essentially the same as the congestion control
response to a single dropped packet."
(where RFC8311 adds a
"unless otherwise specified by an Experimental RFC in the IETF document stream"
to this last sentence, however, this is not really important here).

The text as currently written indicates that the congestion controller can choose to account for ECN information at all or not which is not the case.

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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +peer.  Suppressing reports of ECN-CE markings could cause a peer to increase
+their send rate.  This increase could result in congestion and loss.
+
+An endpoint MAY attempt to detect suppression of reports by marking occasional
+packets that they send with ECN-CE.  If a packet marked with ECN-CE is not
+reported as having been marked when the packet is acknowledged, the endpoint
+SHOULD then disable ECN for that path.
+
+Reporting additional ECN-CE markings will cause a peer to reduce their sending
+rate, which is similar in effect to advertising reduced connection flow control
+limits and so no advantage is gained by doing so.
+
+Endpoints choose the congestion controller that they use.  Though congestion
+controllers ideally use reports of ECN markings as input, the exact response for
+each controller could be different.  Failure to correctly respond to information
+about ECN markings is therefore difficult to detect.

Clearly there are congestion controllers which don't support ECN, particularly not 3168 style ECN.

As an example, DCTCP (RFC8257) specifies a mechanism which is different from 3168.

Maybe we don't need this paragraph at all?

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@mirjak commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +peer.  Suppressing reports of ECN-CE markings could cause a peer to increase
+their send rate.  This increase could result in congestion and loss.
+
+An endpoint MAY attempt to detect suppression of reports by marking occasional
+packets that they send with ECN-CE.  If a packet marked with ECN-CE is not
+reported as having been marked when the packet is acknowledged, the endpoint
+SHOULD then disable ECN for that path.
+
+Reporting additional ECN-CE markings will cause a peer to reduce their sending
+rate, which is similar in effect to advertising reduced connection flow control
+limits and so no advantage is gained by doing so.
+
+Endpoints choose the congestion controller that they use.  Though congestion
+controllers ideally use reports of ECN markings as input, the exact response for
+each controller could be different.  Failure to correctly respond to information
+about ECN markings is therefore difficult to detect.

DCTCP is not applicable to the Internet. The point being is that if you mark your packets as ECN-enabled, you also must react to CE marks accordingly, you can't just ignore them. I guess we can remove the whole paragraph or just this one sentence in the middle.

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----==_mimepart_5b61e3d9786d4_3dc13fe4a30d45b82126cb-- From nobody Wed Aug 1 11:30:14 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EBB5130E35 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 11:30:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3WSTGF7rTwGD for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 11:30:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9AA3D130DC8 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 11:30:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2018 11:30:08 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533148208; bh=900ggHnbQbVDp/du0rYCdhdQg2xMgjAIWt20Rrv7Hf0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=v6kdQQJtXtYEdJf38AOetY6uiz2xhlN3BynDH11AbGpDGFdn7upS2S8qSgXBHCyMB 9LtH4W2KWhPcG3uxXGDy4nahnqmzNnWWEWqXJxEzjyjwoiIB6zp5MJa5viRkldGya4 U8zj5zsLbbEAcwuXFPUVR3atd8KwqwOm4w5E5G0w= From: Christian Huitema Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Consequences of bad ECN markings (#1626) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b61fc3083960_10b93fd9830be61c247087"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: huitema X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2018 18:30:12 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b61fc3083960_10b93fd9830be61c247087 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit huitema commented on this pull request. > +peer. Suppressing reports of ECN-CE markings could cause a peer to increase +their send rate. This increase could result in congestion and loss. + +An endpoint MAY attempt to detect suppression of reports by marking occasional +packets that they send with ECN-CE. If a packet marked with ECN-CE is not +reported as having been marked when the packet is acknowledged, the endpoint +SHOULD then disable ECN for that path. + +Reporting additional ECN-CE markings will cause a peer to reduce their sending +rate, which is similar in effect to advertising reduced connection flow control +limits and so no advantage is gained by doing so. + +Endpoints choose the congestion controller that they use. Though congestion +controllers ideally use reports of ECN markings as input, the exact response for +each controller could be different. Failure to correctly respond to information +about ECN markings is therefore difficult to detect. RFC3168 does say that the response to an ECN mark must be the same as to a dropped packet. However, different congestion control algorithms may well respond to dropped packets differently. Receivers may detect that the sender's algorithm does not respond as TCP-Reno would, but then so what? It just means that the sender's congestion control algorithm is different from TCP-Reno. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1626#discussion_r206985670 ----==_mimepart_5b61fc3083960_10b93fd9830be61c247087 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +peer.  Suppressing reports of ECN-CE markings could cause a peer to increase
+their send rate.  This increase could result in congestion and loss.
+
+An endpoint MAY attempt to detect suppression of reports by marking occasional
+packets that they send with ECN-CE.  If a packet marked with ECN-CE is not
+reported as having been marked when the packet is acknowledged, the endpoint
+SHOULD then disable ECN for that path.
+
+Reporting additional ECN-CE markings will cause a peer to reduce their sending
+rate, which is similar in effect to advertising reduced connection flow control
+limits and so no advantage is gained by doing so.
+
+Endpoints choose the congestion controller that they use.  Though congestion
+controllers ideally use reports of ECN markings as input, the exact response for
+each controller could be different.  Failure to correctly respond to information
+about ECN markings is therefore difficult to detect.

RFC3168 does say that the response to an ECN mark must be the same as to a dropped packet. However, different congestion control algorithms may well respond to dropped packets differently. Receivers may detect that the sender's algorithm does not respond as TCP-Reno would, but then so what? It just means that the sender's congestion control algorithm is different from TCP-Reno.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  
 The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD",
 "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "NOT RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this
 document are to be interpreted as described in BCP 14 {{!RFC2119}} {{!RFC8174}}
 when, and only when, they appear in all capitals, as shown here.
 
+Definitions of terms that are used in this document:
+
+ACK frames:
+
+: ACK frames refer to both ACK and ACK_ECN frames in this
+  document.
+
+ACK-only:
+
+: Any packet containing only an ACK or ACK_ECN frame.
+
+In-flight:
+
+: Packets are considered in-flight when they have been sent
+  and neither acknowledged or declared lost, and they are not

Late to the party, but:

Either/or, but Neither/nor

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I'm with @mt here. It's not that hard to i= mplement the now-conventional anti-replay techniques, and if we don't do = this, then we have to analyze every single QUIC frame to guarantee it can= 't cause problems if replayed (and moreover implementors need to enforce = it).

My understanding is that we need to analyze and guarantee that, regard= less of if we require deduplication. This is because a peer can always re= play a frame.

Taking the flow control frames as an example, the fact that endpoints = need to handle out-of-order delivery means that they need to take care of= receiving smaller maximum values that it has seen before. The requiremen= t does not go away by requiring deduplication.

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----==_mimepart_5b6241df542c1_52053fa88b8be6241284b1-- From nobody Wed Aug 1 16:33:40 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3C76130EA9 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 16:33:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.996 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.996 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Pkg8-J2VgVYc for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 16:33:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from m71-131.mailgun.net (m71-131.mailgun.net [166.78.71.131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E335130DC3 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 16:33:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; v=1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; q=dns/txt; s=mailo; t=1533166416; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type: Mime-Version: Subject: Message-ID: To: Reply-To: From: Date: Sender; bh=AGnRwI3Gd7v9Zlj2h7SbGR8/aGbptYSNCL4JAO0bkSY=; b=f9UAL0ETZos5hQa0t6QJ35rJ/hczXSsf1pWhPLiGYq2g8d5OrrH/yoE/3KeowwvcHP20Zhac vS4ob+yST+njPsl7aOopim+nOtTytWb0U5+Weor8OaGAHzbHwgPiyWnv5ZUlCNR9eCIMpBiA drOR0kbz8xRLt5iIsmJDvXip6dg= X-Mailgun-Sending-Ip: 166.78.71.131 X-Mailgun-Sid: WyJhNzYyYiIsICJxdWljLWlzc3Vlc0BpZXRmLm9yZyIsICI0MGYiXQ== Sender: martin.thomson=gmail.com@github.com Received: from github.com (Unknown [192.30.252.36]) by mxa.mailgun.org with ESMTP id 5b62434f.7fc4843cca80-smtp-out-n01; Wed, 01 Aug 2018 23:33:35 -0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2018 16:33:35 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: <5b62434f62f52_49872ae16390af8c529d7@hookshot-fe-6b2eebc.cp1-iad.github.net.mail> Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] 675231: Exceptions to packet coalescing Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b62434f629aa_49872ae16390af8c52853"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2018 23:33:39 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b62434f629aa_49872ae16390af8c52853 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: 67523180efb3c640478261e54fc9c8d704443387 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/67523180efb3c640478261e54fc9c8d704443387 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-07-31 (Tue, 31 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Exceptions to packet coalescing For Retry and Version Negotiation. 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Commit: 0936b77535a26e2ae71843796d046f35f3217467 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0936b77535a26e2ae71843796d046f35f3217467 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-08-01 (Wed, 01 Aug 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1613 from quicwg/coalesce-exceptions Exceptions to packet coalescing Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/eb4d2237554c...0936b77535a2 **NOTE:** This service has been marked for deprecation: https://developer.github.com/changes/2018-04-25-github-services-deprecation/ Functionality will be removed from GitHub.com on January 31st, 2019. ----==_mimepart_5b62434f629aa_49872ae16390af8c52853-- From nobody Wed Aug 1 16:33:49 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18847130DC3 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 16:33:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.008 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.008 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QGVmeKUIjmHP for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 16:33:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8990D130DE7 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 16:33:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2018 16:33:37 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533166417; bh=6Ql/wgkqcYNYxpLGF4tULq40ilNS0e+gJ61XJuCgVos=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=0mG91+/r5+8PgLySb4a7IlYFC1zmQsOjNrvo6wh5rB/WGPMOYLDoqkEJrHiMMZhzj fJo9wfCUdm3KvAZEihKdw9UF3GIQFUxOCRFv1iG00UoLxuSk/DRUkIBBVBf/VV7xoy nPnZ71q8vKGCqM6jogicqVfU7G83+q/D1B5b26g8= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Exceptions to packet coalescing (#1613) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b6243519bf65_135a3fe09e2be620103394"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2018 23:33:40 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b6243519bf65_135a3fe09e2be620103394 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Merged #1613. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ianswett commented on this pull request. > The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "NOT RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in BCP 14 {{!RFC2119}} {{!RFC8174}} when, and only when, they appear in all capitals, as shown here. +Definitions of terms that are used in this document: + +ACK frames: + +: ACK frames refer to both ACK and ACK_ECN frames in this + document. + +ACK-only: + +: Any packet containing only an ACK or ACK_ECN frame. + +In-flight: + +: Packets are considered in-flight when they have been sent + and neither acknowledged or declared lost, and they are not Thanks Mike, I fixed it in master -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  
 The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD",
 "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "NOT RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this
 document are to be interpreted as described in BCP 14 {{!RFC2119}} {{!RFC8174}}
 when, and only when, they appear in all capitals, as shown here.
 
+Definitions of terms that are used in this document:
+
+ACK frames:
+
+: ACK frames refer to both ACK and ACK_ECN frames in this
+  document.
+
+ACK-only:
+
+: Any packet containing only an ACK or ACK_ECN frame.
+
+In-flight:
+
+: Packets are considered in-flight when they have been sent
+  and neither acknowledged or declared lost, and they are not

Thanks Mike, I fixed it in master

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Endpoints react to congestion by reducing their sending rate in response, as described in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}. -To use ECN, QUIC endpoints first determine whether a path and peer support ECN -marking. Verifying the path occurs at the beginning of a connection and when the +To use ECN, QUIC endpoints first determine whether a path supports ECN +marking and the peer is able to access the ECN codepoint in the IP header. +A network path regarded as not supporting ECN, if ECN marked packets get dropped remove the comma > connection migrates to a new path (see {{migration}}). -Each endpoint independently verifies and enables ECN for the path from it to the -peer. +Each endpoint independently verifies and enables use of ECN by setting the IP +header ECN codepoint to ECN Capable Transport (ECT) for the path from it to the Which one? > -To verify that both a path and the peer support ECN, an endpoint MUST set one of -the ECN Capable Transport (ECT) codepoints -- ECT(0) or ECT(1) -- in the IP -header {{!RFC8311}} of all outgoing packets. +To verify both that a path supports ECN and the peer can provide ECN feedback, +an endpoint MUST set the ECT(0) codepoint in the IP header of all outgoing packets +{{!RFC8311}}. Trailing space. > @@ -1834,26 +1834,31 @@ congestion in the network by setting a codepoint in the IP header of a packet instead of dropping it. Endpoints react to congestion by reducing their sending rate in response, as described in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}. -To use ECN, QUIC endpoints first determine whether a path and peer support ECN -marking. Verifying the path occurs at the beginning of a connection and when the +To use ECN, QUIC endpoints first determine whether a path supports ECN +marking and the peer is able to access the ECN codepoint in the IP header. +A network path regarded as not supporting ECN, if ECN marked packets get dropped +or ECN marking are rewritten on the path. +Verifying the path occurs at the beginning of a connection and when the Passive voice. "An endpoint verifies every path, both during connection establishment and when migrating to a new path (see {{migration}})." -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1834,26 +1834,31 @@ congestion in the network by setting a codepoint in the IP header of a packet
 instead of dropping it.  Endpoints react to congestion by reducing their sending
 rate in response, as described in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.
 
-To use ECN, QUIC endpoints first determine whether a path and peer support ECN
-marking. Verifying the path occurs at the beginning of a connection and when the
+To use ECN, QUIC endpoints first determine whether a path supports ECN
+marking and the peer is able to access the ECN codepoint in the IP header. 
+A network path regarded as not supporting ECN, if ECN marked packets get dropped

remove the comma

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  connection migrates to a new path (see {{migration}}).
 
-Each endpoint independently verifies and enables ECN for the path from it to the
-peer.
+Each endpoint independently verifies and enables use of ECN by setting the IP
+header ECN codepoint to ECN Capable Transport (ECT) for the path from it to the

Which one?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-To verify that both a path and the peer support ECN, an endpoint MUST set one of
-the ECN Capable Transport (ECT) codepoints -- ECT(0) or ECT(1) -- in the IP
-header {{!RFC8311}} of all outgoing packets.
+To verify both that a path supports ECN and the peer can provide ECN feedback, 
+an endpoint MUST set the ECT(0) codepoint in the IP header of all outgoing packets
+{{!RFC8311}}.

Trailing space.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1834,26 +1834,31 @@ congestion in the network by setting a codepoint in the IP header of a packet
 instead of dropping it.  Endpoints react to congestion by reducing their sending
 rate in response, as described in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.
 
-To use ECN, QUIC endpoints first determine whether a path and peer support ECN
-marking. Verifying the path occurs at the beginning of a connection and when the
+To use ECN, QUIC endpoints first determine whether a path supports ECN
+marking and the peer is able to access the ECN codepoint in the IP header. 
+A network path regarded as not supporting ECN, if ECN marked packets get dropped
+or ECN marking are rewritten on the path.
+Verifying the path occurs at the beginning of a connection and when the

Passive voice. "An endpoint verifies every path, both during connection establishment and when migrating to a new path (see {{migration}})."

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Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b6249683280e_168c22ae54ae92f7850846"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2018 23:59:40 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b6249683280e_168c22ae54ae92f7850846 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: d0ef789436b71b35479c3eec4c524661f8fd50bf https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d0ef789436b71b35479c3eec4c524661f8fd50bf Author: Dmitri Tikhonov Date: 2018-08-01 (Wed, 01 Aug 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Fix: a connection is not identified by a *collection* This small change contains several other improvements, each with a clear purpose behind it. 1. Replace the word "collection" with the word "set," as the former looks a lot like "connection." 2. Remove the "unlikely to be unique" parenthetical clause: it is obvious that there can only be one unique zero-length connection ID. 3. Drop the "assigned to it" part of the sentence, as it is unnecessary in this introductory paragraph. 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Merged #1632.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +peer.  Suppressing reports of ECN-CE markings could cause a peer to increase
+their send rate.  This increase could result in congestion and loss.
+
+An endpoint MAY attempt to detect suppression of reports by marking occasional
+packets that they send with ECN-CE.  If a packet marked with ECN-CE is not
+reported as having been marked when the packet is acknowledged, the endpoint
+SHOULD then disable ECN for that path.
+
+Reporting additional ECN-CE markings will cause a peer to reduce their sending
+rate, which is similar in effect to advertising reduced connection flow control
+limits and so no advantage is gained by doing so.
+
+Endpoints choose the congestion controller that they use.  Though congestion
+controllers ideally use reports of ECN markings as input, the exact response for
+each controller could be different.  Failure to correctly respond to information
+about ECN markings is therefore difficult to detect.

Would this be better if it said "Though congestion controllers generally treat reports of ECN-CE markings as equivalent to loss [RFC8311], the exact response for each controller could be different." ?

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----==_mimepart_5b624abd8eb25_476e3fc3204d45b820566d-- From nobody Wed Aug 1 17:12:58 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31368130DCF for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 17:12:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ixn_-URKa1Nh for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 17:12:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4487B130EDB for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 17:12:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2018 17:12:54 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533168774; bh=cNtukJb0b/V1eYujMDFMoC/C01aIurnLJ6EZK8erPbg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ZBZ7JcnGGLEGT81kMXin4HuC1FeEdvHugerOBKHCey6GhnZA81MY0O19GO6aUV4el m1TQlp3JZLgHKZv4PzdV2pji6evjS9LqoWeVD/uATE2Tssf4R9c00EAlltFWIGb+aN hsNOGd48O7smEZT9Ht1GOnNITKH4JZ35btRZ5v+Y= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Duplicates are dropped (#1624) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b624c864a441_52763fdacc0d45bc142940"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2018 00:12:57 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b624c864a441_52763fdacc0d45bc142940 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's very different in my opinion to have rules about frame duplication (which we clearly need for any frame that might be retransmitted), and packet duplication. A properly duplicate packet - one with identical content - is easy, but I don't want to have to think about what happens when a packet isn't genuinely identical. And deduplication is easy to require because it's easy to implement. This isn't a rulebook we can hit people with. So if you process the same packet twice and no one hears it, then maybe it doesn't matter, but the "MUST"-language we put here is part of what determines how the protocol is analyzed. If we don't say "no duplicates", we made that analysis harder and the results weaker. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1624#issuecomment-409764639 ----==_mimepart_5b624c864a441_52763fdacc0d45bc142940 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

It's very different in my opinion to have rules about frame duplicatio= n (which we clearly need for any frame that might be retransmitted), and = packet duplication. A properly duplicate packet - one with identical con= tent - is easy, but I don't want to have to think about what happens when= a packet isn't genuinely identical. And deduplication is easy to requir= e because it's easy to implement.

This isn't a rulebook we can hit people with. So if you process the s= ame packet twice and no one hears it, then maybe it doesn't matter, but t= he "MUST"-language we put here is part of what determines how the protoco= l is analyzed. If we don't say "no duplicates", we made that analysis ha= rder and the results weaker.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +#### Looping {#reset-looping}
+
+The design of a Stateless Reset is such that it is indistinguishable from a
+valid packet.  This means that a Stateless Reset might trigger the sending of a
+Stateless Reset in response, which could lead to infinite exchanges.  An
+endpoint MUST use any one of the following measures to limit the sending of
+Stateless Reset:
+
+* An endpoint can remember the number of Stateless Reset packets that it has
+  sent and stop generating new Stateless Reset packets once a limit is reached.
+  Using separate limits for different remote addresses - or different values for
+  the Destination Connection ID fields on the packet that triggers the reset -
+  will ensure that Stateless Reset packets can be used to close connections when
+  other peers or connections have exhausted limits.
+
+* An endpoint can ensure that every Stateless Reset that it sends is smaller

I think it's worth advising that a stateless reset should never be larger than the received packet. This makes this defense unilaterally useful, because at least one side is reducing the size every time.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +#### Looping {#reset-looping}
+
+The design of a Stateless Reset is such that it is indistinguishable from a
+valid packet.  This means that a Stateless Reset might trigger the sending of a
+Stateless Reset in response, which could lead to infinite exchanges.  An
+endpoint MUST use any one of the following measures to limit the sending of
+Stateless Reset:
+
+* An endpoint can remember the number of Stateless Reset packets that it has
+  sent and stop generating new Stateless Reset packets once a limit is reached.
+  Using separate limits for different remote addresses - or different values for
+  the Destination Connection ID fields on the packet that triggers the reset -
+  will ensure that Stateless Reset packets can be used to close connections when
+  other peers or connections have exhausted limits.
+
+* An endpoint can ensure that every Stateless Reset that it sends is smaller

That's a good point, and a reason that the TTL defense was removed. I will restructure.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1896,6 +1896,13 @@ dynamically calculate the expiration time.  It is also unlikely that the client
 port number is the same on two different connections; validating the port is
 therefore unlikely to be successful.
 
+Even when a token is valid, a server SHOULD limit the amount of data that it
+sends toward a client in response to 0-RTT data.  Spoofing of source addresses
+and replays of 0-RTT handshake messages can cause tokens to appear to be valid
+when they are not.  No specific recommendation is made regarding the ratio of
+data sent to received, though it is unlikely to be necessary to send more than
+the initial congestion window.

I think it's fairly likely it may be necessary to send more than the IW, but I think we should advise limiting the amount of data sent to the IW. I think this just falls out of the recovery doc, since the recovery doc specifies an initial window of 10 packets, so I'm not completely sure this is necessary?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +#### Looping {#reset-looping}
+
+The design of a Stateless Reset is such that it is indistinguishable from a
+valid packet.  This means that a Stateless Reset might trigger the sending of a
+Stateless Reset in response, which could lead to infinite exchanges.  An
+endpoint MUST use any one of the following measures to limit the sending of
+Stateless Reset:
+
+* An endpoint can remember the number of Stateless Reset packets that it has
+  sent and stop generating new Stateless Reset packets once a limit is reached.
+  Using separate limits for different remote addresses - or different values for
+  the Destination Connection ID fields on the packet that triggers the reset -
+  will ensure that Stateless Reset packets can be used to close connections when
+  other peers or connections have exhausted limits.
+
+* An endpoint can ensure that every Stateless Reset that it sends is smaller

On second thought: if one peer is remembering, then the problem does eventually go away without size reductions. But it requires that the state is not bound to a connection ID (as @kazuho suggested), it has to be bound to a remote address.

I have restructed the text to emphasize size reduction as the first defense. State is then an alternative.

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It's sometimes necessary, but even when it is not, it avoids having to worry about 0-RTT packet numbers. Followup for #1498. 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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  {{transport-parameter-definitions}}) is closed.  A connection enters the
 draining state when the idle timeout expires.
 
-The time at which an idle timeout takes effect won't be perfectly synchronized
-on both endpoints.  An endpoint that sends packets near the end of an idle
-period could have those packets discarded if its peer enters the draining state
-before the packet is received.
+Endpoints use the value they advertise when determining an idle timeout.  The
+idle timeout starts from the last packet received, or the first packet sent
+after sending that packet.  The latter condition ensures that initiating new
+activity postpones a timeout.
+
+The value for an idle timeout can be asymmetric.  The value advertised by a peer
+is only used to determine whether the connection is live at a peer.  An endpoint
+that sends packets near the end of the idle timeout period of a peer risks
+having those packets discarded if its peer enters the draining state before the
+packets arrive.  If a peer could be in within an RTO (see Section 4.3.3 of

How about "If a peer could idle timeout within an RTO(), it is advisable..."

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1896,6 +1896,13 @@ dynamically calculate the expiration time.  It is also unlikely that the client
 port number is the same on two different connections; validating the port is
 therefore unlikely to be successful.
 
+Even when a token is valid, a server SHOULD limit the amount of data that it
+sends toward a client in response to 0-RTT data.  Spoofing of source addresses
+and replays of 0-RTT handshake messages can cause tokens to appear to be valid
+when they are not.  No specific recommendation is made regarding the ratio of
+data sent to received, though it is unlikely to be necessary to send more than
+the initial congestion window.

Yeah, this is why it is worded so loosely. Without this advice, the risk seems to be limited to the server receiving a spoofed ACK for the ServerHello and sending that much more in response, but that's only one more packet than the IW, so it's hardly earth-shattering.

Given that this is largely dictated by congestion controller design (IW specifically), is this really a change we need to implement? Should we instead close #1309 with no change?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1896,6 +1896,13 @@ dynamically calculate the expiration time.  It is also unlikely that the client
 port number is the same on two different connections; validating the port is
 therefore unlikely to be successful.
 
+Even when a token is valid, a server SHOULD limit the amount of data that it
+sends toward a client in response to 0-RTT data.  Spoofing of source addresses
+and replays of 0-RTT handshake messages can cause tokens to appear to be valid
+when they are not.  No specific recommendation is made regarding the ratio of
+data sent to received, though it is unlikely to be necessary to send more than
+the initial congestion window.

I'm fine with just closing #1309

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1896,6 +1896,13 @@ dynamically calculate the expiration time.  It is also unlikely that the client
 port number is the same on two different connections; validating the port is
 therefore unlikely to be successful.
 
+Even when a token is valid, a server SHOULD limit the amount of data that it
+sends toward a client in response to 0-RTT data.  Spoofing of source addresses
+and replays of 0-RTT handshake messages can cause tokens to appear to be valid
+when they are not.  No specific recommendation is made regarding the ratio of
+data sent to received, though it is unlikely to be necessary to send more than
+the initial congestion window.

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(Just an aside.) HPACK never needed EOS. The loss of efficiency is tiny (one bit for some never-used symbol), but it should have been possible to use any sequence that is longer than the number of remaining bits.

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@siyengar approved this pull request.

Otherwise this looks great. Thanks for putting up the pr to clarify th= ings.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  {{transport-parameter-definitions}}) is c=
losed.  A connection enters the
 draining state when the idle timeout expires.
 =

-The time at which an idle timeout takes effect won't be perfectly sy=
nchronized
-on both endpoints.  An endpoint that sends packets near the end of an id=
le
-period could have those packets discarded if its peer enters the drainin=
g state
-before the packet is received.
+Endpoints use the value they advertise when determining an idle timeout.=
  The

You talk about the asymmetric nature of idle timeout later, but maybe = useful to say this before.

=E2=80=9CEach endpoint advertises their own idle timeout to the peer=E2= =80=9D.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  {{transport-parameter-definitions}}) is c=
losed.  A connection enters the
 draining state when the idle timeout expires.
 =

-The time at which an idle timeout takes effect won't be perfectly sy=
nchronized
-on both endpoints.  An endpoint that sends packets near the end of an id=
le
-period could have those packets discarded if its peer enters the drainin=
g state
-before the packet is received.
+Endpoints use the value they advertise when determining an idle timeout.=
  The
+idle timeout starts from the last packet received, or the first packet s=
ent
+after sending that packet.  The latter condition ensures that initiating=
 new
+activity postpones a timeout.
+
+The value for an idle timeout can be asymmetric.  The value advertised b=
y a peer
+is only used to determine whether the connection is live at a peer.  An =
endpoint

Maybe less confusing to say a value =E2=80=9Cadvertised by an endpoint= ... is live at an endpoint=E2=80=9D

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----==_mimepart_5b6287b0f1be4_a503fad7f6be6282999a0-- From nobody Wed Aug 1 23:37:26 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51570130E23 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 23:37:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Gd5WkFPMYetR for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 23:37:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5CEC0130DCE for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 23:37:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2018 23:37:18 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533191838; bh=QfRigiIW37+C34ZzwW7/4EkNhV4UkjKDsJmBmtm7YIU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=b+EHsJKf04nRWhzPSPxuw5Gg1FfIN5Itb40/IPavubN9emehbIUNcKcxL54K435yg Fw0BeFgmFAvLQLbxQcA63vqfa+dtgpxbj/XhNNju5R20KMpRipJvjl1WwSzGd4pxdi Krt2r98mbSzAqE1O3B5MjWDtkOJJflw2few+K7HU= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Define idle timeout more precisely (#1614) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b62a69e608ba_5b333fc9a54be6247673f"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2018 06:37:22 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b62a69e608ba_5b333fc9a54be6247673f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mikkelfj commented on this pull request. > -Endpoints use the value they advertise when determining an idle timeout. The -idle timeout starts from the last packet received, or the first packet sent -after sending that packet. The latter condition ensures that initiating new -activity postpones a timeout. - -The value for an idle timeout can be asymmetric. The value advertised by a peer -is only used to determine whether the connection is live at a peer. An endpoint -that sends packets near the end of the idle timeout period of a peer risks -having those packets discarded if its peer enters the draining state before the -packets arrive. If a peer could timeout within an RTO (see Section 4.3.3 of -{{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), it is advisable to test for liveness before sending any data -that cannot be retried safely. +Each endpoint advertises their own idle timeout to their peer. The idle timeout +starts from the last packet received, or the first packet sent after sending +that packet. The latter condition ensures that initiating new activity +postpones a timeout. This is not very clear without more context: What is "that" packet? Do you mean "The idle timeout is reset whenever a packet is received or sent."? Where is the timeout advertised, TP presumably? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1614#pullrequestreview-142659696 ----==_mimepart_5b62a69e608ba_5b333fc9a54be6247673f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -Endpoints use the value they advertise when determining an idle timeout.  The
-idle timeout starts from the last packet received, or the first packet sent
-after sending that packet.  The latter condition ensures that initiating new
-activity postpones a timeout.
-
-The value for an idle timeout can be asymmetric.  The value advertised by a peer
-is only used to determine whether the connection is live at a peer.  An endpoint
-that sends packets near the end of the idle timeout period of a peer risks
-having those packets discarded if its peer enters the draining state before the
-packets arrive.  If a peer could timeout within an RTO (see Section 4.3.3 of
-{{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), it is advisable to test for liveness before sending any data
-that cannot be retried safely.
+Each endpoint advertises their own idle timeout to their peer. The idle timeout
+starts from the last packet received, or the first packet sent after sending
+that packet.  The latter condition ensures that initiating new activity
+postpones a timeout.

This is not very clear without more context:
What is "that" packet? Do you mean "The idle timeout is reset whenever a packet is received or sent."?
Where is the timeout advertised, TP presumably?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -Endpoints use the value they advertise when determining an idle timeout.  The
-idle timeout starts from the last packet received, or the first packet sent
-after sending that packet.  The latter condition ensures that initiating new
-activity postpones a timeout.
-
-The value for an idle timeout can be asymmetric.  The value advertised by a peer
-is only used to determine whether the connection is live at a peer.  An endpoint
-that sends packets near the end of the idle timeout period of a peer risks
-having those packets discarded if its peer enters the draining state before the
-packets arrive.  If a peer could timeout within an RTO (see Section 4.3.3 of
-{{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), it is advisable to test for liveness before sending any data
-that cannot be retried safely.
+Each endpoint advertises their own idle timeout to their peer. The idle timeout
+starts from the last packet received, or the first packet sent after sending
+that packet.  The latter condition ensures that initiating new activity
+postpones a timeout.

OK there is a reference to TP in earlier paragraph.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -Endpoints use the value they advertise when determining an idle timeout.  The
-idle timeout starts from the last packet received, or the first packet sent
-after sending that packet.  The latter condition ensures that initiating new
-activity postpones a timeout.
-
-The value for an idle timeout can be asymmetric.  The value advertised by a peer
-is only used to determine whether the connection is live at a peer.  An endpoint
-that sends packets near the end of the idle timeout period of a peer risks
-having those packets discarded if its peer enters the draining state before the
-packets arrive.  If a peer could timeout within an RTO (see Section 4.3.3 of
-{{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), it is advisable to test for liveness before sending any data
-that cannot be retried safely.
+Each endpoint advertises their own idle timeout to their peer. The idle timeout
+starts from the last packet received, or the first packet sent after sending
+that packet.  The latter condition ensures that initiating new activity
+postpones a timeout.

@mikkelfj, you picked up on a serious error here. It's the first packet sent after the last received packet. Fresh eyes FTW.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +peer.  Suppressing reports of ECN-CE markings could cause a peer to increase
+their send rate.  This increase could result in congestion and loss.
+
+An endpoint MAY attempt to detect suppression of reports by marking occasional
+packets that they send with ECN-CE.  If a packet marked with ECN-CE is not
+reported as having been marked when the packet is acknowledged, the endpoint
+SHOULD then disable ECN for that path.
+
+Reporting additional ECN-CE markings will cause a peer to reduce their sending
+rate, which is similar in effect to advertising reduced connection flow control
+limits and so no advantage is gained by doing so.
+
+Endpoints choose the congestion controller that they use.  Though congestion
+controllers ideally use reports of ECN markings as input, the exact response for
+each controller could be different.  Failure to correctly respond to information
+about ECN markings is therefore difficult to detect.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -
-To verify that both a path and the peer support ECN, an endpoint MUST set one of
-the ECN Capable Transport (ECT) codepoints -- ECT(0) or ECT(1) -- in the IP
-header {{!RFC8311}} of all outgoing packets.
+To use ECN, QUIC endpoints first determine whether a path supports ECN
+marking and the peer is able to access the ECN codepoint in the IP header. 
+A network path regarded as not supporting ECN if ECN marked packets get dropped
+or ECN marking are rewritten on the path.
+An endpoint verifies the path, both during connection establishment 
+and when migrating to a new path (see {{migration}}).
+
+Each endpoint independently verifies and enables use of ECN by setting the IP
+header ECN codepoint to ECN Capable Transport (ECT) for the path from it to the
+other peer. Even if ECN is not used on the path to the peer, the endpoint MUST
+provide ECN feedback information if the receive of a non-zero ECN IP codepoint
+is observed.

Grammar here could be improved: "an endpoint MUST provide ECN feedback information if it receives packets with non-zero ECN markings." ?

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@ekr commented on this pull request.

Concur. Let's close #1309

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1896,6 +1896,13 @@ dynamically calculate the expiration time.  It is also unlikely that the client
 port number is the same on two different connections; validating the port is
 therefore unlikely to be successful.
 
+Even when a token is valid, a server SHOULD limit the amount of data that it
+sends toward a client in response to 0-RTT data.  Spoofing of source addresses
+and replays of 0-RTT handshake messages can cause tokens to appear to be valid
+when they are not.  No specific recommendation is made regarding the ratio of
+data sent to received, though it is unlikely to be necessary to send more than
+the initial congestion window.

Sure, but when I raised this issue I didn't have this fix in mind. There are two cases.

In case 1, there is no valid token, in which case you should follow the same rules for non-HS data as HS data: 3 packets.

In case 2, there is a valid token, in which case YOLO.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -
-To verify that both a path and the peer support ECN, an endpoint MUST set one of
-the ECN Capable Transport (ECT) codepoints -- ECT(0) or ECT(1) -- in the IP
-header {{!RFC8311}} of all outgoing packets.
+To use ECN, QUIC endpoints first determine whether a path supports ECN
+marking and the peer is able to access the ECN codepoint in the IP header. 
+A network path regarded as not supporting ECN if ECN marked packets get dropped
+or ECN marking are rewritten on the path.
+An endpoint verifies the path, both during connection establishment 
+and when migrating to a new path (see {{migration}}).
+
+Each endpoint independently verifies and enables use of ECN by setting the IP
+header ECN codepoint to ECN Capable Transport (ECT) for the path from it to the
+other peer. Even if ECN is not used on the path to the peer, the endpoint MUST
+provide ECN feedback information if the receive of a non-zero ECN IP codepoint
+is observed.

Maybe just "the endpoint MUST provide feedback about ECN markings received (if accessible)." Is that better?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -
-To verify that both a path and the peer support ECN, an endpoint MUST set one of
-the ECN Capable Transport (ECT) codepoints -- ECT(0) or ECT(1) -- in the IP
-header {{!RFC8311}} of all outgoing packets.
+To use ECN, QUIC endpoints first determine whether a path supports ECN
+marking and the peer is able to access the ECN codepoint in the IP header. 
+A network path regarded as not supporting ECN if ECN marked packets get dropped
+or ECN marking are rewritten on the path.
+An endpoint verifies the path, both during connection establishment 
+and when migrating to a new path (see {{migration}}).
+
+Each endpoint independently verifies and enables use of ECN by setting the IP
+header ECN codepoint to ECN Capable Transport (ECT) for the path from it to the
+other peer. Even if ECN is not used on the path to the peer, the endpoint MUST
+provide ECN feedback information if the receive of a non-zero ECN IP codepoint
+is observed.

Yeah, concise and correct. You can just drop the parenthetical: if the markings aren't accessible, the endpoint didn't get them.

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I think what I'm asking about, for both frames and SETTINGS in the linked issue, is whether QUIC varints are the best choice for representing integers in HQ.

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Closed #1309.

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OK, as discussed on #1616:

If there is no valid token we already have text that says that you can= 't send more than 3 datagrams. That covers 0-RTT as well has the handsha= ke. If there is a valid token, limiting the amount of data sent to a val= id peer is a job for a congestion controller. In this case, the initial = congestion window is sufficient (or, as ekr put it: YOLO).

With recommended settings, that moves from 3 packets to 10, which isn'= t a big enough increase to be problematic, especially considering the amo= unt of processing involved in accepting and responding to 0-RTT. Servers= won't want to do that without a reasonable assurance that the data is wa= nted, so the amplification attack surface is reduced.

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@martinthomson approved this pull request.

Yeah, this is good. Wondering if we need to say more, but I'll leave that to your discretion.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  
 QUIC hosts MUST NOT send packets if they would increase bytes_in_flight
-(defined in {{vars-of-interest}}) beyond the available congestion window, unless
-the packet is a probe packet sent after the TLP or RTO timer expires, as
-described in {{tlp}} and {{rto}}.
+(defined in {{vars-of-interest}}) beyond the available congestion window,
+unless the packet is a probe packet sent after the TLP or RTO timer expires,
+as described in {{tlp}} and {{rto}}.
+
+Implementations MAY use other congestion control algorithms.

Do we also need to say that endpoints don't need to use the same congestion controller? IOW, "Implementations MAY use a different congestion control algorithm, even within the same connection. The signals that QUIC provides for congestion control are generic and can support different congestion control regimens."

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This isn't a question of a particular construct; I'm more concerned ab= out what advice we might give generally. Ryan's advice is only really pa= rt of that (though it's pretty solid and pragmatic advice).

There are probably other things to say about what a sender might do th= at help. For instance, if you think that something might be parsed as a = single unit, then it's probably not a good idea to only send part of it. = Waiting until flow control credit is available - while it might risk a s= tall in the event that credits never arrive - might be a good idea.

It's also probably necessary to say something about inter-stream depen= dencies along the lines of: "If you have a dependency between the content= of two streams, then you need to ensure that the dependent information i= s not sent until the information it depends on can be sent. In particula= r, the necessary flow control credit needs to have been consumed."

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= ----==_mimepart_5b63b70b9568f_30a43fcff94be624146454-- From nobody Thu Aug 2 19:37:05 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CC2E130F34 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2018 19:37:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rIhaXQWb3BSV for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2018 19:37:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D4A1F130DD8 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2018 19:37:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2018 19:37:00 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533263820; bh=ml/ZPFxZlMsq31GwMx2gmOAulWz4unW38PCzG+rHKdo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=YOK7hGQCGeJ0CIJoqIp4L9wJZ7t+s/xUbL62Q+yZf7878/tFM+dHWLPXgmuW/e8zr UbNctt+hYvkhSrQyYjiy93I7D2pBPV+YXpQr9AeYkVk2BpuYxwDCL+HK7bX41yD6fp e8pj5bOpYRuocaZHHfROUe1Cf/CAwk0irkPqRH1Q= From: Dmitri Tikhonov Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Length-prefixes and flow control (#1432) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b63bfccb47b5_23513ff8576be628741ac"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: dtikhonov X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2018 02:37:03 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b63bfccb47b5_23513ff8576be628741ac Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think this issue should be tagged `-http` instead of `-transport`. This logic is something for HQ to figure out. @martinthomson writes: > It's also probably necessary to say something about inter-stream dependencies along the lines of: "If you have a dependency between the content of two streams, then you need to ensure that the dependent information is not sent until the information it depends on can be sent. In particular, the necessary flow control credit needs to have been consumed." IIRC, this was one of the conclusions reached by the Header Compression Design Team. Nevertheless, I don't see any verbiage addressing this either HTTP or QPACK drafts. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1432#issuecomment-410126622 ----==_mimepart_5b63bfccb47b5_23513ff8576be628741ac Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I think this issue should be tagged -http instead of -transport. This logic is something for HQ to figure out.

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It's also probably necessary to say something about inter-stream depen= dencies along the lines of: "If you have a dependency between the content= of two streams, then you need to ensure that the dependent information i= s not sent until the information it depends on can be sent. In particular= , the necessary flow control credit needs to have been consumed."

IIRC, this was one of the conclusions reached by the Header Compressio= n Design Team. Nevertheless, I don't see any verbiage addressing this ei= ther HTTP or QPACK drafts.

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I can see both sides of this, but I personally feel it would be worth doing, as long as such an introduction was kept brief and highlights how QUIC addresses the shortcomings of H2.

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Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b63d5f43c770_166a2b14f0862f8891238"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2018 04:11:36 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b63d5f43c770_166a2b14f0862f8891238 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: 0daa28429bd32c84a4fe40a8b227b7d062932101 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0daa28429bd32c84a4fe40a8b227b7d062932101 Author: Marten Seemann Date: 2018-07-30 (Mon, 30 Jul 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- make the initial_max_data transport parameter optional Commit: bf50bd9e3b81220c88a6e12d237bffea57427d5b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/bf50bd9e3b81220c88a6e12d237bffea57427d5b Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-08-03 (Fri, 03 Aug 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1610 from marten-seemann/optional-initial-max-data make the initial_max_data transport parameter optional Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/83a3e479b843...bf50bd9e3b81 **NOTE:** This service has been marked for deprecation: https://developer.github.com/changes/2018-04-25-github-services-deprecation/ Functionality will be removed from GitHub.com on January 31st, 2019. ----==_mimepart_5b63d5f43c770_166a2b14f0862f8891238-- From nobody Thu Aug 2 21:11:44 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6076D127598 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2018 21:11:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.008 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.008 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lMFk95Pkqs9d for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2018 21:11:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B544F130F96 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2018 21:11:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2018 21:11:37 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533269497; bh=1sNbkGanCvoJbPrngqgzN/D895dVs9r91qJheD6b0Zs=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=JluGJXHqgp1ft52eXRiU57V3WVh/04OE0BlUTXS0kyJI3X6d5xbItcohk37gVMrac gyV321axWeJ/rNXIOsBKYVmBrWzyO9zN/x5ZcQhgOK5ItNg9ksi6ziPUU5Z2shUqhx e4iLSjslQZz9a/VWzdsqNPx14JQcVr2R8TF9A4uI= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] make the initial_max_data transport parameter optional (#1610) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b63d5f9328fd_53033f8f380d45c4238389"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2018 04:11:41 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b63d5f9328fd_53033f8f380d45c4238389 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Merged #1610 into master. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Merged #1610 into master.

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We have #1420 for the specific advice, but I had hoped to gather some more general advice that that could reference.

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Thanks Martin, I added your comment about the signals being generic. Changing congestion controllers mid-connection is certainly possible, but I think it ends up being more confusing than clarifying.

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It seems like the general advice should be something along the lines of,= "applications should not use a stream's receive buffer to store data while= they wait for more data to arrive, as this can potentially lead to deadloc= k. instead they should read data out of the buffers expeditiously."

Really receive buffers should only be used to store data when the applic= ation is temporarily blocked from processing data and should be read as soo= n as the application is unblocked. What do you think?

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I never intended to imply a change mid-connection, just that the choice was unilateral.

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's worth a note about in-order data as well, since typically the main purpose of the receive buffer is to re-assemble data in order. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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It's worth a note about in-order data as well, since typically the main purpose of the receive buffer is to re-assemble data in order.

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That's a good point. The receive buffer exists to re-assemble= data in order. The receive buffer is sized to allow the pipe to= be filled by the sender in the face of packet loss and receiver applicat= ion jitter. (If a full CWND worth of data is sent, but the first packet i= s lost, we don't want to have to wait for the retransmission of that data= to be received before we can send new data. We also don't want to have t= o stop sending after a full CWND just because the app got swapped out tem= porarily, or is waiting for a seek, for example). It does not exist as an= alternative to application data storage and any attempt to treat it as s= uch is fraught with peril.

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I guess it could be a good idea to give some more general advise (not = only HTTP-specific) in the applicability statement. There is a section on= "Use of Streams" and we could add another subsection to explain how this= deadlock can happen and given some guidance inline with what @RyanAtGoogle and @martinthomson said. Anybody willing to send a PR directl= y or should I just open an ops-draft issue for now?

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= ----==_mimepart_5b681588435e3_10d8f3ffa246be61812226c-- From nobody Mon Aug 6 03:54:23 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 310AA130E64 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2018 03:54:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7Url4v6Kzxae for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2018 03:54:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A7818130DE2 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2018 03:54:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2018 03:54:18 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533552858; bh=/2ujrbPoiNZzehkAZgVsY0qnoYh1q9D/K6RYcjJogqc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=gbyNyZWMLDnbjjiOakVooPJKc95LqENGq8sdEjeprh8t+HdMJzeJJmK0zi4bx8yPF pKzFtEBPhtbaeHLZrksE6jjYNUEdPM/C/SJXC7GRyTusdfp1g2AEPTC7c99ZwnLqCd vbqDTjoDybT1d/hHoio+tXTCxUFohG8YwHtfyUqU= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Initial size of dynamic table (#1530) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b6828daa5336_183f3ffb8dcd45c443164e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2018 10:54:21 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b6828daa5336_183f3ffb8dcd45c443164e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If the server has to remember what value was associated with 0-RTT, can't we agree on that? That is, if the client attempts 0-RTT and the server accepts it, the value is set to the 0-RTT value. We require that both peers remember the value from before, as we agreed in Montreal, so that's easy. If 0-RTT is rejected, then it's a full handshake and they can all use the 1-RTT values. In HPACK, we require the first header block that uses the dynamic table to include a table size update, because the table is assumed to start at 0 size (the default; also, settings might not be around when you send that header block). In QPACK, you always know how much space there is - even if it might later increase - so why not use that? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1530#issuecomment-410669757 ----==_mimepart_5b6828daa5336_183f3ffb8dcd45c443164e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

If the server has to remember what value was associated with 0-RTT, ca= n't we agree on that?

That is, if the client attempts 0-RTT and the server accepts it, the v= alue is set to the 0-RTT value. We require that both peers remember the = value from before, as we agreed in Montreal, so that's easy.

If 0-RTT is rejected, then it's a full handshake and they can all use = the 1-RTT values.

In HPACK, we require the first header block that uses the dynamic tabl= e to include a table size update, because the table is assumed to start a= t 0 size (the default; also, settings might not be around when you send t= hat header block). In QPACK, you always know how much space there is - e= ven if it might later increase - so why not use that?

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What if we have a fixed 0-RTT value? That is, if the server is willing to accept 0-RTT connections, its dynamic table size is at least `$SOME_VALUE`. This value can be increased in `SHLO`. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1530#issuecomment-410707725 ----==_mimepart_5b684d0548eb8_e723fc2a7cbe61c1510a0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

What if we have a fixed 0-RTT value? That is, if the server is willing to accept 0-RTT connections, its dynamic table size is at least $SOME_VALUE. This value can be increased in SHLO.

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The QPACK encoding process produces two outputs: the encoder stream instructions and the header block. Now that the encoder framing has been removed, the encoder instructions can be written directly to the stream, while the associated header block must be buffered because we don't know its length [1,2]. We can avoid buffering of the header block by introducing an _End of the Header Block_ instruction at the cost of one byte. The header block has just a few instructions and can easily accommodate another one. This would also force our hand with regard to the Base Index: we'd have to pick it immediately. On the other hand, it can make the design simpler: just set it to the same value as the Largest Reference. This will offset the cost of the new EOS instructions, as Base Reference no longer has to be transmitted. For this to work, we'd have to bring back _CONTINUATION_ frames, which seem to have had been designed exactly with this use case in mind. Without them, we still have to buffer to calculate the size of the _HEADERS_ frame. For background, see issue #76 and the [httpbis PR #548](https://github.com/http2/http2-spec/pull/548). Needless to say, I do not agree with the rationale behind removing CONTINUATION frames from QUIC. Footnotes: 1. I am aware of the deadlock hazard brought on by writing the header block and the encoder stream concurrently. The assumption is that an implementation that writes to packets directly has the logic to do this right. 1. One alternative is to pre-calculate the encoded length of the header block. This is unworkable because it a) essentially doubles the work; and b) causes buffering of unencoded header fields. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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I'd like to make another comment related to the EOS symbol. The QPACK e= ncoding process produces two outputs: the encoder stream instructions and t= he header block. Now that the encoder framing has been removed, the encode= r instructions can be written directly to the stream, while the associated = header block must be buffered because we don't know its length [1,2].

We can avoid buffering of the header block by introducing an End of = the Header Block instruction at the cost of one byte. The header bloc= k has just a few instructions and can easily accommodate another one. This= would also force our hand with regard to the Base Index: we'd have to pick= it immediately. On the other hand, it can make the design simpler: just s= et it to the same value as the Largest Reference. This will offset the cos= t of the new EOS instructions, as Base Reference no longer has to be transm= itted.

For this to work, we'd have to bring back CONTINUATION frames, = which seem to have had been designed exactly with this use case in mind. W= ithout them, we still have to buffer to calculate the size of the HEADE= RS frame. For background, see issue #76 and the httpbis PR #548. Needless to say, I do not agree with the= rationale behind removing CONTINUATION frames from QUIC.

Footnotes:

  1. I am aware of the deadlock hazard brought on by writing the header bloc= k and the encoder stream concurrently. The assumption is that an implement= ation that writes to packets directly has the logic to do this right.
  2. One alternative is to pre-calculate the encoded length of the header bl= ock. This is unworkable because it a) essentially doubles the work; and b)= causes buffering of unencoded header fields.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  ## Misreporting ECN Markings
 
-An endpoint can misreport ECN markings to alter the congestion response of a
-peer.  Suppressing reports of ECN-CE markings could cause a peer to increase
-their send rate.  This increase could result in congestion and loss.
+An receiver can misreport ECN markings to alter the congestion response of a

Change An receiver to A receiver

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Thanks Nick, fixed.

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----==_mimepart_5b68aed9e0bbb_47dc3fda4b4d45bc47371-- From nobody Mon Aug 6 13:33:03 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A8A9130E05 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2018 13:33:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xXHPZN6WdjRh for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2018 13:33:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 449DA130DCE for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2018 13:33:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2018 13:32:59 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533587579; bh=KdDSHYKqQ46SyA8tz5LIuyay2zOcXm3Feql+J5bruB0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=CbbnISPwX6I5/RPWJLzlIssu7EHZ1jUTd1aW/9xOLkvorfpoKEYizz/2PxUOWpths cFjvRNx3h9lT8hqqUhWnOl+6p0aKVVboV0xX7d0s/wHlEIemix3mbXzNSsMzvHNFhC zsVv9oe7gyMPaSv+9Kt1QS03hqGgJ5TeOmSti6TM= From: janaiyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Duplicates are dropped (#1624) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b68b07b954ef_4ee73fcf4d0be62068616"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2018 20:33:02 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b68b07b954ef_4ee73fcf4d0be62068616 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am sympathetic to Kazuho's argument that this language seems to require state that a receiver may not have. I think this is easily resolvable though. If a packet received is either a duplicate or if it is to the left of the receiver's "window" (the lowest packet number that the receiver is willing to receive and process), the receiver drops it. I think this handles the cases where the receiver may not be able to dedup, but the outcome is the same -- the receiver drops the packet. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1624#issuecomment-410843904 ----==_mimepart_5b68b07b954ef_4ee73fcf4d0be62068616 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I am sympathetic to Kazuho's argument that this language seems to requ= ire state that a receiver may not have. I think this is easily resolvable= though. If a packet received is either a duplicate or if it is to the le= ft of the receiver's "window" (the lowest packet number that the receiver= is willing to receive and process), the receiver drops it. I think this = handles the cases where the receiver may not be able to dedup, but the ou= tcome is the same -- the receiver drops the packet.

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@dtikhonov, that's exactly what is being proposed. $SOME_VALUE is determined by SETTINGS from the previous connection and new SETTINGS can be sent to increase that value.

I don't think that we should fix a value in the spec, if that is what you were implying.

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for fixing that Ian. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Thanks for fixing that Ian.

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I did mean a fixed value in the spec.

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We can avoid buffering of the header block by introducing an End of the Header Block instruction at the cost of one byte. [...]

This won't work -- the Largest Reference must still precede the header block. *sigh* I guess we must buffer....

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I don't remember discussing this. @MikeBishop, remind me what the conclusion was?

For me, I don't think that we need to change anything. I can't see a concrete change that would improve the situation out of his discussion.

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Taking this. To capture the conclusions from the Montreal meeting.

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When you are done with keys, set a timer. Working through all the ramifications and defining this precisely takes more words than I'd originally anticipated. 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When you are done with keys, set a timer. Working through all the ramifications and defining this precisely takes more words than I'd originally anticipated. Closes #1544. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1636 -- Commit Summary -- * Rules for discarding old keys -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md (83) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1636.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1636.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1636 ----==_mimepart_5b6944c58e4e2_59193f9ea18be6181221bb Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

This is - at its core - simple. When you are done with keys, set a
timer. Working through all the ramifications and defining this
precisely takes more words than I'd originally anticipated.

Closes #1544.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1636

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  • Rules for discarding old keys

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I don't think that we could possibly agree on a value to standardize here. Servers and clients already have to remember things; I don't think that's a problem here.

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----==_mimepart_5b69475735b5e_30613ffaa40d45c41467b0-- From nobody Tue Aug 7 01:50:01 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02181130DDE for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2018 01:49:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IsscBRKGFohk for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2018 01:49:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-13.smtp.github.com (out-13.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 99DB1130EAB for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2018 01:49:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2018 01:49:56 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533631797; bh=bZrmdKRXByA3CNY4tHAW+d82jUbZgvYQTy3p8tX5xFI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=sVGVAHinHHDeDONU4hUSUVU1zt840x7Plsc2y4SuYwR0WtzHP25or33Mw7c86Y+CY 89Zso1W9JEPYTDd2Xp4lL0msA2m/SQkkSIpNyZ3HJD7jPyAE3MDkjnCUhEh0QOthdn ouZ3lsX8GGlt9MZSzMz2oD+5aWOqKkjoD6E4ZT6s= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Initial size of dynamic table (#1530) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b695d34e6c72_16b53fd84e4be61c4854ef"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2018 08:49:59 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b695d34e6c72_16b53fd84e4be61c4854ef Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @martinthomson > That is, if the client attempts 0-RTT and the server accepts it, the value is set to the 0-RTT value. We require that both peers remember the value from before, as we agreed in Montreal, so that's easy. +1. Having the same rule as we have for other limits (e.g. initial_max_bidi_streams) leads to less confusion. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1530#issuecomment-410983255 ----==_mimepart_5b695d34e6c72_16b53fd84e4be61c4854ef Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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That is, if the client attempts 0-RTT and the server accepts it, the v= alue is set to the 0-RTT value. We require that both peers remember the v= alue from before, as we agreed in Montreal, so that's easy.

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That could be specified in four bits, true. I could be convinced that c= utting a byte off the length for every setting value saves more than being = able to omit the value for booleans. The original reason for having an arb= itrary-length field was extensions that needed to supply a large set of sup= ported values, such as supported signing algorithms for the CERTIFICATE_PRO= OF in the originally-adopted version of Secondary Certificates. So the goa= l was not only to save bytes from settings that didn't need four bytes, but= also to provide extra bytes to settings that needed complex, structured va= lues.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -118,10 +118,8 @@ Retransmittable Packets:
 
 All transmissions in QUIC are sent with a packet-level header, which indicates
 the encryption level and includes a packet sequence number (referred to below as
-a packet number).  The encryption level indicates the packet number space, as
-described in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}.  Packet numbers never repeat within a packet
-number space for the lifetime of a connection.  Packet numbers monotonically
-increase within a space, preventing ambiguity.
+a packet number).  Packet numbers never repeat for the lifetime of a connection.
+Packet numbers monotonically increase within a space, preventing ambiguity.

But you have no packet number spaces here.... I'm guessing this is a merge artifact.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -118,10 +118,8 @@ Retransmittable Packets:
 
 All transmissions in QUIC are sent with a packet-level header, which indicates
 the encryption level and includes a packet sequence number (referred to below as
-a packet number).  The encryption level indicates the packet number space, as
-described in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}.  Packet numbers never repeat within a packet
-number space for the lifetime of a connection.  Packet numbers monotonically
-increase within a space, preventing ambiguity.
+a packet number).  Packet numbers never repeat for the lifetime of a connection.
+Packet numbers monotonically increase within a space, preventing ambiguity.

But you have no packet number spaces here.... I'm guessing this is a merge artifact.

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I think we need to assume that CIDs are unique without regard to the c= lient address, because otherwise you won't survive NAT rebinding. The sa= me will be true for server addresses if we allow server migration in a fu= ture version, so I'd like to lay the conceptual groundwork here.

I agree that a server could hypothetically reuse CIDs across its own a= ddresses, but to me that seems more conceptually akin to multiple indepen= dent servers running on different ports. I'm inclined to leave the uniqu= eness comments in, as @dtikhonov has= done here.

I originally said "unlikely to be" unique, since IIRC we have at least= one implementation that used zero-length addresses until there was a tup= le overlap. Zero-length can be unique if it's the only one. :-)

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1065,6 +1066,13 @@ sending a packet with a number of 0x6b2d79 requires a packet number encoding
 with 14 bits or more; whereas the 30-bit packet number encoding is needed to
 send a packet with a number of 0x6bc107.
 
+An endpoint MUST discard packets with duplicate packet numbers.  After

How about combining the first two sentences, since they seem largely redundant? Maybe "An endpoint MUST discard packets with duplicate packet numbers after unprotecting the packet." or something similar.

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I'm not sure how to fix this. Suggestions?

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----==_mimepart_5b69e74b2e619_1aa83fcfd04d45c4129459-- From nobody Tue Aug 7 11:44:03 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 469BD131084 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2018 11:44:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3ChuO5K8bXJK for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2018 11:43:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ACDEC130E42 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2018 11:43:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2018 11:43:58 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533667438; bh=2pC5s01x2N1KmBxRKmcNF4yRyGVHx3k17Ny6/3YcsrI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=CbHyhXIMmaCbW/9kru71gTEp4hE7eiSvc9I1K/ZVNrRTz+ijSHYUYOGBsoKNSKatn 1RO3Llp3qYwS5b8Rde4VA1GLcsiy14LxtrvExAOuzqwh4j9EaI/aSkptZGfYbwidZE mbEsnuKbuBBB7x5WB5dQT1ZCHpHB5Uv8Mvb0hD7U= From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Wonky definition of kInitialWindow (#1615) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b69e86edcb80_3813fbcf64d45c0140773"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2018 18:44:01 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b69e86edcb80_3813fbcf64d45c0140773 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Maybe just moving all the recommendations last, and to use actual English to describe them, instead of functions? That might look better. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1615#issuecomment-411160366 ----==_mimepart_5b69e86edcb80_3813fbcf64d45c0140773 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Maybe just moving all the recommendations last, and to use actual English to describe them, instead of functions? That might look better.

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Fixes #1619

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I don't think this distinction is useful, and I don't understand it. An = endpoint can choose to not support ECN, for whatever reason, one of them be= ing that the ECN codepoints are not accessible. If it helps to clarify this= , I'm happy to write something that clarifies what "endpoint support of ECN= " means... I don't think we need more than a sentence.

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I don't think this distinction is useful, and I don't understand it. A= n endpoint can choose to not support ECN, for whatever reason, one of the= m being that the ECN codepoints are not accessible. If it helps to clarif= y this, I'm happy to write something that clarifies what "endpoint suppor= t of ECN" means... I don't think we need more than a sentence to clarify = this.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -989,6 +988,13 @@ The recovery period limits congestion window reduction to once per round trip.
 During recovery, the congestion window remains unchanged irrespective of new
 losses or increases in the ECN-CE counter.
 
+## Application Limited Sending
+
+If the sender is sufficiently application limited that the congestion window is
+not fully utilized, the congestion window should not be increased in slow start
+or congestion avoidance.  Senders should consider themselves application limited
+if bytes in flight when receiving an ACK frame are more than a max datgram size
+less than the congestion window.

This last sentence is a run-on and unnecessarily detailed. I would simply say something like "if the congestion window is not fully utilized." The detail of kMaxDatagramSize is a rounding thing, which is probably too much detail in this descriptive text.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  
    OnPacketAckedCC(acked_packet):
      // Remove from bytes_in_flight.
      bytes_in_flight -= acked_packet.bytes
      if (InRecovery(acked_packet.packet_number)):
        // Do not increase congestion window in recovery period.
        return
+     if (IsAppLimited())
+       // Do not increase congestion_window if application limited.
+       return

This gets into implementation specifics a bit, but I don't think the pseudocode can be as trivial as this.

Naively, if this function is called for two different packets in a row, without a corresponding send operation being performed between them, then only the first OnPacketAckedCC ever actually increases congestion_window because the previous call just decremented bytes_in_flight and incremented congestion_window guaranteeing that IsAppLimited() will always return false for future packets.

In a slightly more intelligent interpretation of this, where you actually preform this logic for all the bytes acknowledged in a whole ACK frame in a single call, you can still have the same problem if you end up processing two ACK frames back to back before you end up doing a send. I have some ideas on how to solve that (at least for my implementation) but I was wondering if this should be mentioned (if not pseudocoded) here.

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#1614 makes idle timeout more precise, but still leaves open the question of when a path is considered dead. We still need a path timeout to close paths over which an endpoint cannot reach a peer.

My suggestion here is to have N RTOs be a value that's used for detecting a dead path, for some reasonable value of N (5? 7?). An endpoint can close the connection when a path is considered dead or can wait for a new path to become available (this is extremely useful when migrating from wifi to cell).

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----==_mimepart_5b69f3fe55ff7_5f153fb3b86d45c42276aa-- From nobody Tue Aug 7 12:40:05 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27D7E131096 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2018 12:40:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yLJaJa49jccI for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2018 12:40:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 333CA131084 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2018 12:40:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2018 12:40:00 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533670800; bh=82ZYCiqOkjGqbSyNWbqe/AaYAMIVUm6gU0YSjuqTg58=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=aizcC1e3H7YR/XgUZJPJh2L9lUwE2CEzApNGsrPZjesc2H4snDdOhpATzC0yJJEc+ gVL4klXbgj2aHQ1F0SdRmrqlEjeYQeS5++xwuMT1fvR23cigeIHd7tOIWGnK12L7i9 ukVNGaGxUj2G/uOzjyPCeBXZrUsKTuSN2J4mG1uI= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] CANCEL_PUSH, MAX_PUSH_ID and GOAWAY specify the length of the ID twice (#1620) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b69f5907a20e_35543ffd9fabe618484fc"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2018 19:40:03 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b69f5907a20e_35543ffd9fabe618484fc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think that's a fair question, and I'm coming around to the idea of length-prefixed non-varint values for SETTINGS. It's a level of complexity that seemed like we might need it coming out of HTTP/2, and a few years later that need hasn't proven itself out. For these frames, we're referencing Stream IDs / Push IDs. Stream IDs are a transport layer concept and I'm reluctant to introduce an alternative encoding. We already have at least one place (PRIORITY) where Push and Stream IDs are encoded in the same field, which argues for using the same encoding for both. If not varint, what? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1620#issuecomment-411177005 ----==_mimepart_5b69f5907a20e_35543ffd9fabe618484fc Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I think that's a fair question, and I'm coming around to the idea of l= ength-prefixed non-varint values for SETTINGS. It's a level of complexit= y that seemed like we might need it coming out of HTTP/2, and a few years= later that need hasn't proven itself out.

For these frames, we're referencing Stream IDs / Push IDs. Stream IDs= are a transport layer concept and I'm reluctant to introduce an alternat= ive encoding. We already have at least one place (PRIORITY) where Push a= nd Stream IDs are encoded in the same field, which argues for using the s= ame encoding for both. If not varint, what?

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= ----==_mimepart_5b69f5907a20e_35543ffd9fabe618484fc-- From nobody Tue Aug 7 12:40:42 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B46F61310E7 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2018 12:40:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Z9NeashrZBqy for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2018 12:40:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 17FBA1310A2 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2018 12:40:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2018 12:40:27 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533670827; bh=h2u0J3f0qTlYCQmIjHZ6gwkr6Kwq5ViHC/KvByC+OlU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=T6XYhB5uZsr6d9Rp2i7yASjHU1N25oMrlU7qqHp8YPpj+3Xcp00yCbqT6Ri+88RWF GyFfkmAMfPzYgVlWDuXJ4775nFjXoxLtIsP3id7rznzwCSU7L05haoZIcZWxFv6mnb xmB21u19990A6z41YK4iipHJXorfzVcoM0dO5zro= From: janaiyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Connection ID lengths 1, 2 and 3 bytes can't be encoded (#1570) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b69f5ab7407d_a3473fc594abe624949de"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2018 19:40:39 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b69f5ab7407d_a3473fc594abe624949de Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @ekr @martinthomson : I think it's useful to have this degree of freedom for uses, for instance, where there's no migration, but only demultiplexing among a few connections. I understand the concern that having connection ID that's too small can lead to linkability, but I think there's a natural pushback here -- servers that use connection ID for demuxing will want to use a large CID because small ones are not enough, or they'll use no CID. The only place a small one becomes interesting is when (i) there are only a few connections being demuxed and (ii) where the bit cost matters. This is true in the p2p case, where I would argue that linkability is quite easy with just timing of packets. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1570#issuecomment-411177124 ----==_mimepart_5b69f5ab7407d_a3473fc594abe624949de Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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> @ekr <https://github.com/ekr> @martinthomson
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> only demultiplexing among a few connections. I understand the concer= n that
> having connection ID that's too small can lead to linkability, b= ut I think
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> they'll use no CID. The only place a small one becomes interesti= ng is when
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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -989,6 +988,13 @@ The recovery period limits congestion window reduction to once per round trip.
 During recovery, the congestion window remains unchanged irrespective of new
 losses or increases in the ECN-CE counter.
 
+## Application Limited Sending
+
+If the sender is sufficiently application limited that the congestion window is
+not fully utilized, the congestion window should not be increased in slow start
+or congestion avoidance.  Senders should consider themselves application limited
+if bytes in flight when receiving an ACK frame are more than a max datgram size
+less than the congestion window.

In that case, I think I should just remove that sentence?

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6.13.4.2 discusses the need to request a non-zero-length CID if you want to be able to generate Stateless Resets:

An endpoint that loses state can use the same method to generate a valid Stateless Reset Token. The connection ID comes from the packet that the endpoint receives.

This design relies on the peer always sending a connection ID in its packets so that the endpoint can use the connection ID from a packet to reset the connection. An endpoint that uses this design cannot allow its peers to send packets with a zero-length destination connection ID.

However, it doesn't discuss the fact that the length of the CID isn't identifiable from a short-header packet, and therefore even this algorithm works only if you either use a constant CID length or embed a length indicator in your CIDs. This might be a worthwhile piece to mention.

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----==_mimepart_5b69ff95a33d8_2cdfa3ff80debe624555a8-- From nobody Tue Aug 7 13:24:00 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3DDF1310C7 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2018 13:23:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id thwyDm9delXv for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2018 13:23:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8FF861310BB for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2018 13:23:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2018 13:23:55 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533673435; bh=lQMx7zLrsr3FlAIb5fzJGGMfZXAez/8Gytww4FbDD3M=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=vUksgssTTYIzEBT6yoNvsndY4/nq9HymAonqzLlj5SD+unnyLu47shInl5157UT/M mDvR+7nKUrvda3Dd4xG2ylyoil+I+0uC3uc6DcKMJQMeI02sjw8zTQqw1krB9QigSn PfHPCr76zVr2I+91WHHiAcaHbf/Iz44sRHGz7/x4= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Dead path timeout (#1638) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b69ffdbbcb6b_455a3fe9790d45c41222cb"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2018 20:23:59 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b69ffdbbcb6b_455a3fe9790d45c41222cb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think this is a wide enough area of exploration that I'd recommend some pretty vague text calling attention to the issue and recommending: 1) At some point(around 3 to 5 RTOs?), consider sending new traffic on a new connection, instead of the existing possibly dead one. 2) At some point(3 to 6 RTOs?), consider creating a new connection, and if that succeeds, but you're not hearing anything back on the exiting connection, close it and retry if possible, and fail if it's not possible. I suspect the timing of 1 can be earlier than 2, but I have no data to support that. I think mentioning that relying on the PING triggering the timeout is a reasonable approach, but may be slow to detect dead paths unless a PING is always kept outstanding when a response is expected, which is likely far too aggressive. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1638#issuecomment-411189800 ----==_mimepart_5b69ffdbbcb6b_455a3fe9790d45c41222cb Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I think this is a wide enough area of exploration that I'd recommend s= ome pretty vague text calling attention to the issue and recommending:

  1. At some point(around 3 to 5 RTOs?), consider sending new traffic on a= new connection, instead of the existing possibly dead one.
  2. At some point(3 to 6 RTOs?), consider creating a new connection, and = if that succeeds, but you're not hearing anything back on the exiting con= nection, close it and retry if possible, and fail if it's not possible.

I suspect the timing of 1 can be earlier than 2, but I have no data to= support that. I think mentioning that relying on the PING triggering th= e timeout is a reasonable approach, but may be slow to detect dead paths = unless a PING is always kept outstanding when a response is expected, whi= ch is likely far too aggressive.

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Actually, CONTINUATION frames were designed because the maximum suppor= ted size of a header set in some implementations was potentially much lar= ger than the maximum size of a single HTTP/2 frame. HQ eliminates them b= ecause our maximum frame size is much larger. Sending chunks of headers = at a time was a later proposal to effectively grease support for CONTINUA= TION, since they'd be relatively rare otherwise.

HTTP/2 still requires the entire compressed header set to be sent at o= nce -- HEADERS+CONTINUATION effectively functions as a single jumbo frame= , and didn't permit any other frame (including from other streams) to com= e between them.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b6a027ad683_64793f86af0be62065517-- From nobody Tue Aug 7 13:50:41 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DB121310D4 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2018 13:50:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VSiXIy_nAyXs for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2018 13:50:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA3E51310D2 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2018 13:50:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2018 13:50:36 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533675037; bh=FOtOfwoeN7oMUZZ9gA2G12WZbNILk8/cyeb9VCPx1rA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=kjWtE6+S7fXkOKD8x1IMNm43rRgpJbzfVJGE5Sz0sszWo4Eas5s9og+zso327NFmG PqvX0I++FwzPVHOzQTmaAaHTJRk5JSvaz2lEJYkrjoEnkKOEQwkkAxgyl8LcwnImOl JpitPo+EXTjRC0YbbgFb+1uLlJqLPu/80U7GKTXc= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rules for discarding old keys (#1636) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b6a061cea76f_1d3d3fbd052be62816819c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2018 20:50:40 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b6a061cea76f_1d3d3fbd052be62816819c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MikeBishop commented on this pull request. Good content, but some structural feedback. > @@ -619,6 +619,55 @@ The alert level of all TLS alerts is "fatal"; a TLS stack MUST NOT generate alerts at the "warning" level. +## Discarding Unused Keys + +After QUIC moves to a new encryption level, packet protection keys for previous +encryption levels can be discarded. This occurs several times during the +handshake, as well as when keys are updated (see {{key-update}}). + +QUIC endpoints MUST retain keys until they are no longer needed. If packets +from a lower encryption level contain CRYPTO frames, frames that retransmit that +data MUST be sent at the same encryption level. Similarly, an endpoint +generates acknowledgements for packets at the same encryption level as the +packet being acknowledged. Thus, it is possible that keys for a lower +encryption level are needed for a short time after keys for a newer encryption +level are available. + +An endpoint can only discard keys for a given encryption level only after it has Pick an only, but only one. > +handshake, as well as when keys are updated (see {{key-update}}). + +QUIC endpoints MUST retain keys until they are no longer needed. If packets +from a lower encryption level contain CRYPTO frames, frames that retransmit that +data MUST be sent at the same encryption level. Similarly, an endpoint +generates acknowledgements for packets at the same encryption level as the +packet being acknowledged. Thus, it is possible that keys for a lower +encryption level are needed for a short time after keys for a newer encryption +level are available. + +An endpoint can only discard keys for a given encryption level only after it has +both received and acknowledged all CRYPTO frames for that encryption level and +when it has had all CRYPTO frames for that encryption level acknowledged by its +peer. However, this does not guarantee that no further packets will need to be +received or sent at that encryption level because a peer might not have received +all the acknowledgements necessary to reach the same state. This paragraph seems duplicative of the preceding one. Can they be consolidated? Or if they are substantially different, the difference highlighted? > +from a lower encryption level contain CRYPTO frames, frames that retransmit that +data MUST be sent at the same encryption level. Similarly, an endpoint +generates acknowledgements for packets at the same encryption level as the +packet being acknowledged. Thus, it is possible that keys for a lower +encryption level are needed for a short time after keys for a newer encryption +level are available. + +An endpoint can only discard keys for a given encryption level only after it has +both received and acknowledged all CRYPTO frames for that encryption level and +when it has had all CRYPTO frames for that encryption level acknowledged by its +peer. However, this does not guarantee that no further packets will need to be +received or sent at that encryption level because a peer might not have received +all the acknowledgements necessary to reach the same state. + +After all CRYPTO frames for a given encryption level have been either sent or +received and the corresponding acknowledgments have been received or sent, an Given that each encryption level other than 0-RTT includes CRYPTO frames in both directions, I'd question the use of "either" here -- after all outgoing CRYPTO frames have been sent and all expected CRYPTO frames have been received, and the corresponding acknowledgements have also been sent and received. > +when it has had all CRYPTO frames for that encryption level acknowledged by its +peer. However, this does not guarantee that no further packets will need to be +received or sent at that encryption level because a peer might not have received +all the acknowledgements necessary to reach the same state. + +After all CRYPTO frames for a given encryption level have been either sent or +received and the corresponding acknowledgments have been received or sent, an +endpoint starts a timer. To limit the effect of packet loss around a change in +keys, endpoints MUST retain packet protection keys for that encryption level for +at least three times the current Retramsmission Timeout (RTO) interval as +defined in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}. Retaining keys for this interval allows packets +containing CRYPTO or ACK frames at that encryption level to be sent if packets +are determined to be lost or new packets require acknowledgment. While this +timer is running, an endpoint MUST use the most recent packet protection keys +for all packets, except to protect packets containing CRYPTO and ACK frames for +the older encryption level. These packets MAY also include PADDING frames. Talking about the "most recent packet protection keys" feels a little jarring here, since you're actually talking about encryption levels in this section. This doesn't flow as clearly if you mix in key updates at the same time. Perhaps "New data MUST be sent at the highest currently-available encryption level, but ACK frames and retransmissions of CRYPTO frames from prior encryption levels continue to be sent at that encryption level." > +defined in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}. Retaining keys for this interval allows packets +containing CRYPTO or ACK frames at that encryption level to be sent if packets +are determined to be lost or new packets require acknowledgment. While this +timer is running, an endpoint MUST use the most recent packet protection keys +for all packets, except to protect packets containing CRYPTO and ACK frames for +the older encryption level. These packets MAY also include PADDING frames. + +Once this timer expires, an endpoint MUST NOT either accept or generate new +packets using those packet protection keys. An endpoint can discard packet +protection keys for that encryption level. + +An endpoint can update keys multiple times (see {{key-update}}) while this timer +runs. In that case, packets protected with the newest packet protection keys +and packets sent two updates prior will appear to use the same keys. After the +handshake is complete, endpoints only need to maintain the two latest sets of +packet protection keys and MAY discard older keys. Make the transition to discussing key updates more explicit, if you need to do it in this section. Maybe, "Key updates in the 1-RTT encryption level do not require that keys from other encryption levels have already been discarded." I'd be inclined to move the rest of the key update discussion to that section and leave it with that statement. Wherever that discussion lands, it feels like these two paragraphs need to merge. Something like "Frequent key updates could create confusion about which generation of 1-RTT keys were used to protect the packet. To mitigate this, key updates can be performed only once per RTT. This means...." -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1636#pullrequestreview-144174218 ----==_mimepart_5b6a061cea76f_1d3d3fbd052be62816819c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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Good content, but some structural feedback.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -619,6 +619,55 @@ The alert level of all TLS alerts is "fatal"; a TLS stack MUST NOT generate
 alerts at the "warning" level.
 
 
+## Discarding Unused Keys
+
+After QUIC moves to a new encryption level, packet protection keys for previous
+encryption levels can be discarded.  This occurs several times during the
+handshake, as well as when keys are updated (see {{key-update}}).
+
+QUIC endpoints MUST retain keys until they are no longer needed.  If packets
+from a lower encryption level contain CRYPTO frames, frames that retransmit that
+data MUST be sent at the same encryption level.  Similarly, an endpoint
+generates acknowledgements for packets at the same encryption level as the
+packet being acknowledged.  Thus, it is possible that keys for a lower
+encryption level are needed for a short time after keys for a newer encryption
+level are available.
+
+An endpoint can only discard keys for a given encryption level only after it has

Pick an only, but only one.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> +handshake, as well as when keys are updated (see {{key-update}}).
+
+QUIC endpoints MUST retain keys until they are no longer needed.  If packets
+from a lower encryption level contain CRYPTO frames, frames that retransmit that
+data MUST be sent at the same encryption level.  Similarly, an endpoint
+generates acknowledgements for packets at the same encryption level as the
+packet being acknowledged.  Thus, it is possible that keys for a lower
+encryption level are needed for a short time after keys for a newer encryption
+level are available.
+
+An endpoint can only discard keys for a given encryption level only after it has
+both received and acknowledged all CRYPTO frames for that encryption level and
+when it has had all CRYPTO frames for that encryption level acknowledged by its
+peer.  However, this does not guarantee that no further packets will need to be
+received or sent at that encryption level because a peer might not have received
+all the acknowledgements necessary to reach the same state.

This paragraph seems duplicative of the preceding one. Can they be consolidated? Or if they are substantially different, the difference highlighted?

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> +from a lower encryption level contain CRYPTO frames, frames that retransmit that
+data MUST be sent at the same encryption level.  Similarly, an endpoint
+generates acknowledgements for packets at the same encryption level as the
+packet being acknowledged.  Thus, it is possible that keys for a lower
+encryption level are needed for a short time after keys for a newer encryption
+level are available.
+
+An endpoint can only discard keys for a given encryption level only after it has
+both received and acknowledged all CRYPTO frames for that encryption level and
+when it has had all CRYPTO frames for that encryption level acknowledged by its
+peer.  However, this does not guarantee that no further packets will need to be
+received or sent at that encryption level because a peer might not have received
+all the acknowledgements necessary to reach the same state.
+
+After all CRYPTO frames for a given encryption level have been either sent or
+received and the corresponding acknowledgments have been received or sent, an

Given that each encryption level other than 0-RTT includes CRYPTO frames in both directions, I'd question the use of "either" here -- after all outgoing CRYPTO frames have been sent and all expected CRYPTO frames have been received, and the corresponding acknowledgements have also been sent and received.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> +when it has had all CRYPTO frames for that encryption level acknowledged by its
+peer.  However, this does not guarantee that no further packets will need to be
+received or sent at that encryption level because a peer might not have received
+all the acknowledgements necessary to reach the same state.
+
+After all CRYPTO frames for a given encryption level have been either sent or
+received and the corresponding acknowledgments have been received or sent, an
+endpoint starts a timer.  To limit the effect of packet loss around a change in
+keys, endpoints MUST retain packet protection keys for that encryption level for
+at least three times the current Retramsmission Timeout (RTO) interval as
+defined in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.  Retaining keys for this interval allows packets
+containing CRYPTO or ACK frames at that encryption level to be sent if packets
+are determined to be lost or new packets require acknowledgment.  While this
+timer is running, an endpoint MUST use the most recent packet protection keys
+for all packets, except to protect packets containing CRYPTO and ACK frames for
+the older encryption level.  These packets MAY also include PADDING frames.

Talking about the "most recent packet protection keys" feels a little jarring here, since you're actually talking about encryption levels in this section. This doesn't flow as clearly if you mix in key updates at the same time.

Perhaps "New data MUST be sent at the highest currently-available encryption level, but ACK frames and retransmissions of CRYPTO frames from prior encryption levels continue to be sent at that encryption level."

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> +defined in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.  Retaining keys for this interval allows packets
+containing CRYPTO or ACK frames at that encryption level to be sent if packets
+are determined to be lost or new packets require acknowledgment.  While this
+timer is running, an endpoint MUST use the most recent packet protection keys
+for all packets, except to protect packets containing CRYPTO and ACK frames for
+the older encryption level.  These packets MAY also include PADDING frames.
+
+Once this timer expires, an endpoint MUST NOT either accept or generate new
+packets using those packet protection keys.  An endpoint can discard packet
+protection keys for that encryption level.
+
+An endpoint can update keys multiple times (see {{key-update}}) while this timer
+runs.  In that case, packets protected with the newest packet protection keys
+and packets sent two updates prior will appear to use the same keys.  After the
+handshake is complete, endpoints only need to maintain the two latest sets of
+packet protection keys and MAY discard older keys.

Make the transition to discussing key updates more explicit, if you need to do it in this section. Maybe, "Key updates in the 1-RTT encryption level do not require that keys from other encryption levels have already been discarded." I'd be inclined to move the rest of the key update discussion to that section and leave it with that statement.

Wherever that discussion lands, it feels like these two paragraphs need to merge. Something like "Frequent key updates could create confusion about which generation of 1-RTT keys were used to protect the packet. To mitigate this, key updates can be performed only once per RTT. This means...."

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1065,6 +1066,13 @@ sending a packet with a number of 0x6b2d79 requires a packet number encoding
 with 14 bits or more; whereas the 30-bit packet number encoding is needed to
 send a packet with a number of 0x6bc107.
 
+An endpoint MUST discard packets with duplicate packet numbers.  After
+unprotecting a packet, the receiver MUST check that it has not already processed
+a packet with this PN and if so discard it. Duplicate suppression MUST happen

The receiver isn't necessarily able to confirm that for all packet numbers. I think the language needs to be that if the receiver MUST discard if it can't verify that it hasn't processed this packet number before.

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Endpoints react to congestion by reducing their sending rate in response, as described in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}. -To use ECN, QUIC endpoints first determine whether a path and peer support ECN -marking. Verifying the path occurs at the beginning of a connection and when the -connection migrates to a new path (see {{migration}}). - -Each endpoint independently verifies and enables ECN for the path from it to the -peer. - -To verify that both a path and the peer support ECN, an endpoint MUST set one of -the ECN Capable Transport (ECT) codepoints -- ECT(0) or ECT(1) -- in the IP -header {{!RFC8311}} of all outgoing packets. +To use ECN, QUIC endpoints first determine whether a path supports ECN +marking and the peer is able to access the ECN codepoint in the IP header. +A network path regarded as not supporting ECN if ECN marked packets get dropped +or ECN marking are rewritten on the path. An endpoint verifies the path, both "marking**s** are"; "An endpoint verifies **each** path" > -Each endpoint independently verifies and enables ECN for the path from it to the -peer. - -To verify that both a path and the peer support ECN, an endpoint MUST set one of -the ECN Capable Transport (ECT) codepoints -- ECT(0) or ECT(1) -- in the IP -header {{!RFC8311}} of all outgoing packets. +To use ECN, QUIC endpoints first determine whether a path supports ECN +marking and the peer is able to access the ECN codepoint in the IP header. +A network path regarded as not supporting ECN if ECN marked packets get dropped +or ECN marking are rewritten on the path. An endpoint verifies the path, both +during connection establishment and when migrating to a new path (see +{{migration}}). + +Each endpoint independently verifies and enables use of ECN by setting the IP +header ECN codepoint to ECN Capable Transport (ECT) for the path from it to the +other peer. Even if ECN is not used on the path to the peer,the endpoint MUST space > @@ -1862,7 +1867,7 @@ concerns. If an endpoint receives a packet without an ECT or CE codepoint, it responds per {{processing-and-ack}} with an ACK frame. -If an endpoint does not support ECN or does not have access to received ECN +If an endpoint does not have access to received ECN codepoints, it acknowledges received packets per {{processing-and-ack}} with an ACK frame. Rewrap. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1631#pullrequestreview-144183486 ----==_mimepart_5b6a097b1a8ca_2f083fd2ed2be6202699c3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1834,26 +1834,31 @@ congestion in the network by setting a codepoint in the IP header of a packet
 instead of dropping it.  Endpoints react to congestion by reducing their sending
 rate in response, as described in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.
 
-To use ECN, QUIC endpoints first determine whether a path and peer support ECN
-marking. Verifying the path occurs at the beginning of a connection and when the
-connection migrates to a new path (see {{migration}}).
-
-Each endpoint independently verifies and enables ECN for the path from it to the
-peer.
-
-To verify that both a path and the peer support ECN, an endpoint MUST set one of
-the ECN Capable Transport (ECT) codepoints -- ECT(0) or ECT(1) -- in the IP
-header {{!RFC8311}} of all outgoing packets.
+To use ECN, QUIC endpoints first determine whether a path supports ECN
+marking and the peer is able to access the ECN codepoint in the IP header.
+A network path regarded as not supporting ECN if ECN marked packets get dropped
+or ECN marking are rewritten on the path. An endpoint verifies the path, both

"markings are"; "An endpoint verifies each path"

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -Each endpoint independently verifies and enables ECN for the path from it to the
-peer.
-
-To verify that both a path and the peer support ECN, an endpoint MUST set one of
-the ECN Capable Transport (ECT) codepoints -- ECT(0) or ECT(1) -- in the IP
-header {{!RFC8311}} of all outgoing packets.
+To use ECN, QUIC endpoints first determine whether a path supports ECN
+marking and the peer is able to access the ECN codepoint in the IP header.
+A network path regarded as not supporting ECN if ECN marked packets get dropped
+or ECN marking are rewritten on the path. An endpoint verifies the path, both
+during connection establishment and when migrating to a new path (see
+{{migration}}).
+
+Each endpoint independently verifies and enables use of ECN by setting the IP
+header ECN codepoint to ECN Capable Transport (ECT) for the path from it to the
+other peer. Even if ECN is not used on the path to the peer,the endpoint MUST

space

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1862,7 +1867,7 @@ concerns.
 If an endpoint receives a packet without an ECT or CE codepoint, it responds per
 {{processing-and-ack}} with an ACK frame.
 
-If an endpoint does not support ECN or does not have access to received ECN
+If an endpoint does not have access to received ECN
 codepoints, it acknowledges received packets per {{processing-and-ack}} with an
 ACK frame.

Rewrap.

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----==_mimepart_5b6a097b1a8ca_2f083fd2ed2be6202699c3-- From nobody Tue Aug 7 14:08:37 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A76F6129AB8 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2018 14:08:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cOKhJKJu5a5d for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2018 14:08:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 51E59130E05 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2018 14:08:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2018 14:08:33 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533676113; bh=6xOGzigRmwts0IFv8MiOYO/tgHTWtT/QZIEWh9bNih8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=II4M5a4s79rEtjgDdUHCQ4bRyhSVawPTL5MsfWV3KUvuUFbc+rQiR+NBSG4TbGFG1 vkD6pcZ+mmzs5xgFvvZVmjmpPtUuluC1iBiqCFbDdKkp5qIxR9hYFeiEym9Qe5R9JQ zNo60UH8Sp14VQ1TEtAfGY2Kc3YYFzoYYVyXdk3E= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Discuss Application-Limited Sending (#1637) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b6a0a5138372_47e73f8458abe6241016fd"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2018 21:08:36 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b6a0a5138372_47e73f8458abe6241016fd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MikeBishop commented on this pull request. Given that it's a compound adjective, wouldn't it be "application-limited" throughout? > @@ -1115,13 +1119,19 @@ acked_packet from sent_packets. ~~~ InRecovery(packet_number): return packet_number <= end_of_recovery + + IsAppLimited(): + bytes_in_flight >= congestion_window - kMaximumDatagramSize Isn't this backward? Bytes in flight can't be greater than the congestion window, but if the bytes in flight are within one datagram of the window, you're clearly not limited. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1637#pullrequestreview-144185455 ----==_mimepart_5b6a0a5138372_47e73f8458abe6241016fd Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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Given that it's a compound adjective, wouldn't it be "application-limited" throughout?

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1115,13 +1119,19 @@ acked_packet from sent_packets.
 ~~~
    InRecovery(packet_number):
      return packet_number <= end_of_recovery
+   
+   IsAppLimited():
+     bytes_in_flight >= congestion_window - kMaximumDatagramSize

Isn't this backward? Bytes in flight can't be greater than the congestion window, but if the bytes in flight are within one datagram of the window, you're clearly not limited.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1115,13 +1119,19 @@ acked_packet from sent_packets.
 ~~~
    InRecovery(packet_number):
      return packet_number <= end_of_recovery
+

Build failure is trailing whitespace on this line.

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In addition to linkability, the other issue with the proposal is that = you could easily run out of CIDs when stateless reset is being used. Quot= ing from the editors' draft:

Revealing the Stateless Reset Token allows any entity to terminate the= connection, so a value can only be used once. This method for choosing t= he Stateless Reset Token means that the combination of connection ID and = static key cannot occur for another connection.
https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft= -ietf-quic-transport.html#rfc.section.6.13.4

Considering the two issues, I prefer not allowing shorter CID lengths = in QUICv2 (formerly called v1). P2P can be a post-v2 thing.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b6a178a64567_51313f98b56d45c477489-- From nobody Tue Aug 7 15:06:46 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2AD01310D3 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2018 15:06:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id h4_26dliizOP for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2018 15:06:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 24F6C130DDC for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2018 15:06:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2018 15:06:43 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533679603; bh=oBPiJDKEjPEIwscBVvZpMsaHPloGMvKJx0qp6AuOMVs=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=MHhXqQRAF1OmLL6vjDfyiCr5IqSOJvs27cStFuDhY4fp7nEA4O+SzFNG3TZVIvuLw 57YWmjOKheYoqN1jhW7UPqbp7RQv2ssM4WK5PJebdEzXROsXwMfSA6tGmTUi2r8DB1 VC0ZsS2xNpELpJcKnopf4DWZ5nI9D7p3xtX5wDvM= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Connection ID lengths 1, 2 and 3 bytes can't be encoded (#1570) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b6a17f377946_9273fa02babe61c64081"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2018 22:06:46 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b6a17f377946_9273fa02babe61c64081 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'd rather fix the text about being used once. It is not practical to track all ID's anyway - it can only be a stastical property. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1570#issuecomment-411218595 ----==_mimepart_5b6a17f377946_9273fa02babe61c64081 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I'd rather fix the text about being used once. It is not practical to track all ID's anyway - it can only be a stastical property.

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As I noted in email, I think this really would need a new WG consensus call

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Agreed, this needs a new WG consensus call. I was giving my approval of the text and direction.

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will do

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Related to this, is #1049 closed?

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----==_mimepart_5b6a225895b60_12eb3f84500d45bc107717-- From nobody Tue Aug 7 18:33:54 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5900127332 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2018 18:33:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xtFN9NKivFw6 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2018 18:33:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 34E031274D0 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2018 18:33:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2018 18:33:50 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533692030; bh=OVsOK16gJQ/qm3zd4hqYnqcZpqfByuDr8De8uKIrsCo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=UT0g/md1c+xdJwNRMuOlO1Qj8Kq+C9zHhYcpxQoJNEYZCQig23z0miF1qmx73OK5M bi9dYvoRScUlsWlf1nm9gAszhjXFKXDRzENTF2OB6OxhLpipdglMnDm5AmAxbZPId0 uyJdZE87E9M1WKSiJAZgwcIYP13Z0AX4yTokTYFM= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP SETTINGS: define setting content encoding (#1556) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b6a487e452a6_65fb3f98b36be61818625a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2018 01:33:53 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b6a487e452a6_65fb3f98b36be61818625a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That would be a regression in my view. There is value in having settings being able to express things other than numbers. The fact that length is redundant is a consequence of that feature, so it doesn't bother me in the slightest. Here's an example that might make sense, though I doubt that I would implement it... a setting that included a base URL so that request targets could be identified relative to that URL if desired. That might be justified on the basis that we can't compress parts of header fields (for good reasons), but that particular tweak is probably safe. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1556#issuecomment-411254957 ----==_mimepart_5b6a487e452a6_65fb3f98b36be61818625a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

That would be a regression in my view. There is value in having setti= ngs being able to express things other than numbers. The fact that lengt= h is redundant is a consequence of that feature, so it doesn't bother me = in the slightest.

Here's an example that might make sense, though I doubt that I would i= mplement it... a setting that included a base URL so that request targets= could be identified relative to that URL if desired. That might be just= ified on the basis that we can't compress parts of header fields (for goo= d reasons), but that particular tweak is probably safe.

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I was thinking exactly what Nick suggested.

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Closes #1639.

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> +handshake, as well as when keys are updated (see {{key-update}}).
+
+QUIC endpoints MUST retain keys until they are no longer needed.  If packets
+from a lower encryption level contain CRYPTO frames, frames that retransmit that
+data MUST be sent at the same encryption level.  Similarly, an endpoint
+generates acknowledgements for packets at the same encryption level as the
+packet being acknowledged.  Thus, it is possible that keys for a lower
+encryption level are needed for a short time after keys for a newer encryption
+level are available.
+
+An endpoint can only discard keys for a given encryption level only after it has
+both received and acknowledged all CRYPTO frames for that encryption level and
+when it has had all CRYPTO frames for that encryption level acknowledged by its
+peer.  However, this does not guarantee that no further packets will need to be
+received or sent at that encryption level because a peer might not have received
+all the acknowledgements necessary to reach the same state.

Yes, I think so. The previous paragraph is intended to highlight the reasons why keys might be retained in a general sense. The second paragraph is intended to be more precise about what the requirements are. A small tweak to the lead-in of each should help emphasize the difference.

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson commented on this pull request. > +defined in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}. Retaining keys for this interval allows packets +containing CRYPTO or ACK frames at that encryption level to be sent if packets +are determined to be lost or new packets require acknowledgment. While this +timer is running, an endpoint MUST use the most recent packet protection keys +for all packets, except to protect packets containing CRYPTO and ACK frames for +the older encryption level. These packets MAY also include PADDING frames. + +Once this timer expires, an endpoint MUST NOT either accept or generate new +packets using those packet protection keys. An endpoint can discard packet +protection keys for that encryption level. + +An endpoint can update keys multiple times (see {{key-update}}) while this timer +runs. In that case, packets protected with the newest packet protection keys +and packets sent two updates prior will appear to use the same keys. After the +handshake is complete, endpoints only need to maintain the two latest sets of +packet protection keys and MAY discard older keys. The mitigation is a structural one - we don't say "don't update too often", instead it's more or less impossible to update that often (peers could update more often if they synchronized their efforts, but the floor is half an RTT). I'll reword with these comments in mind though. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1636#discussion_r208436580 ----==_mimepart_5b6a4f6db1505_1a273f87212d45b423959d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> +defined in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.  Retaining keys for this interval allows packets
+containing CRYPTO or ACK frames at that encryption level to be sent if packets
+are determined to be lost or new packets require acknowledgment.  While this
+timer is running, an endpoint MUST use the most recent packet protection keys
+for all packets, except to protect packets containing CRYPTO and ACK frames for
+the older encryption level.  These packets MAY also include PADDING frames.
+
+Once this timer expires, an endpoint MUST NOT either accept or generate new
+packets using those packet protection keys.  An endpoint can discard packet
+protection keys for that encryption level.
+
+An endpoint can update keys multiple times (see {{key-update}}) while this timer
+runs.  In that case, packets protected with the newest packet protection keys
+and packets sent two updates prior will appear to use the same keys.  After the
+handshake is complete, endpoints only need to maintain the two latest sets of
+packet protection keys and MAY discard older keys.

The mitigation is a structural one - we don't say "don't update too often", instead it's more or less impossible to update that often (peers could update more often if they synchronized their efforts, but the floor is half an RTT). I'll reword with these comments in mind though.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -989,6 +988,11 @@ The recovery period limits congestion window reduction to once per round trip.
 During recovery, the congestion window remains unchanged irrespective of new
 losses or increases in the ECN-CE counter.
 
+## Application Limited Sending
+
+If the sender is sufficiently application limited that the congestion window is

We don't really get a definition of "application limited" from this. The point is that you won't increase the congestion window if the entire congestion window isn't being actively used.

Is there precedent for this sort of capping of the window?

I assume that this includes flow control as the source of the limitation. Which might be worth mentioning.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1115,13 +1119,19 @@ acked_packet from sent_packets.
 ~~~
    InRecovery(packet_number):
      return packet_number <= end_of_recovery
+   
+   IsAppLimited():
+     bytes_in_flight >= congestion_window - kMaximumDatagramSize

It reads backwards to me as well. And is it the right test? @nibanks' comments suggest that there might be other ways to detect the condition of not being limited. For instance, as long as data is enqueued for sending, it might be reasonable to say that the application is waiting on the congestion controller (or pacer) to allow sending.

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Once you get beyond 80 or so bits, collisions aren't really a practical concern, but more a theoretical one.

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In addition to what @martinthomson<= /a> has pointed out, I would like to note that it is possible to implemen= t a deterministic approach for shorter CIDs (e.g. 4 octets).

One way is to let the endpoint track the CIDs for which it has generat= ed a stateless reset, and rotate the reset key when the size of the track= ed CIDs exceeds certain threshold, at the same time enforcing the active = clients to switch to new CIDs (so that they can be reset using a stateles= s reset generated by the new key). You can use a probablistic structure (= e.g. bloom filter) to track the CIDs for which stateless resets has been = generated.

However, my understanding is that such approach does not work well for= very short CIDs (e.g. 1 octet), because when under attack, the number sp= ace will be consumed by the attacker faster than clients migrate to new C= IDs.

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Parking this. Yes, this would be nice, but we can ship without this if we have to. It's also not really something we need to concern ourselves with tracking here. (Separately, the notion of a datagram-like MESSAGE frame is being discussed and might appear soon.)

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I'm going to close this now that #1614 is merged. I must have missed this.

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You can state that CID must not be ambigious across active connections with high propability.

As to resets, perhaps they do not make sense for short CID's.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2679,7 +2679,9 @@ endpoint receives.
 This design relies on the peer always sending a connection ID in its packets so
 that the endpoint can use the connection ID from a packet to reset the
 connection.  An endpoint that uses this design cannot allow its peers to send
-packets with a zero-length destination connection ID.
+packets with a zero-length destination connection ID and need to either use a
+the same connection ID length for all connections or ensure that the connection
+ID encodes its own length in a common fixed portion.

It is not necessary to have a fixed portion. You can use bit 7 of each octet to indicate if there is more.

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----==_mimepart_5b6aa336d39b2_22733fd88e6d45c4456774-- From nobody Wed Aug 8 04:43:52 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 144E1128C65 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2018 04:43:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0KBNMkyY_CJV for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2018 04:43:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A782C128B14 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2018 04:43:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2018 04:43:48 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533728628; bh=EzceSl8uy5iQtbNgHEBVMMx756OzRrxL+2KuE/zc3yE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=2SzPnJtKK14EOcho0DmGvTF1+OQfsU7rxey/vH+HArI2YUg+KHbEF2U4lozaVqxEg JIBjP6DMzFffs9eDD4cR8i2luSJsTzF4l02eHwKaB5pXbD3K5YbETVOYNAkHG40xK3 3C9XdOtGooLzqkzOYT4PLsEXHqf5jb4J/WoI+A18= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Connection ID lengths 1, 2 and 3 bytes can't be encoded (#1570) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b6ad774ae9e4_67eb3fb854ed45bc5117"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2018 11:43:51 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b6ad774ae9e4_67eb3fb854ed45bc5117 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > As to resets, perhaps they do not make sense for short CID's. I would rephrase that to a question: do we need to give (some small number of) implementations a chance to save 3 octets, even though some features will not work if they choose to save the bytes? I do not think it is something worth doing. Note that in the future we could introduce very short CIDs *for short packets* in future versions of QUIC, even though we decide to not have them in QUIC v1. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1570#issuecomment-411377433 ----==_mimepart_5b6ad774ae9e4_67eb3fb854ed45bc5117 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

As to resets, perhaps they do not make sense for short CID's.

I would rephrase that to a question: do we need to give (some small nu= mber of) implementations a chance to save 3 octets, even though some feat= ures will not work if they choose to save the bytes?

I do not think it is something worth doing.

Note that in the future we could introduce very short CIDs for sho= rt packets in future versions of QUIC, even though we decide to not = have them in QUIC v1.

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I think there is merit in making SETTINGS simple numerical values, ari= sing from lack of compelling argument otherwise.

Are use cases that would like more forms of expression really going to= be satisfied with an unmodifiable SETTINGS value?

Here's an example that might make sense, though I doubt that I would i= mplement it... a setting that included a base URL so that request targets= could be identified relative to that URL if desired. That might be justi= fied on the basis that we can't compress parts of header fields (for good= reasons), but that particular tweak is probably safe.

This is curious example but I'll bite. You could achieve the same by d= efining an extension, enabled by a new numerical SETTINGS value, that art= iculates the base URL in a new extension frame.

To take this to an extreme, we could imagine a request group concept <= em>cough where a set of requests are linked to a particular base URL= via stapling to this extension frame. The base URL can be modified throu= gh the lifetime of the QUIC connection if needs be.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1115,13 +1119,19 @@ acked_packet from sent_packets.
 ~~~
    InRecovery(packet_number):
      return packet_number <= end_of_recovery
+   
+   IsAppLimited():
+     bytes_in_flight >= congestion_window - kMaximumDatagramSize

I agree this is backward. The >= should just be < or <=. But as far as tracking IsAppLimited() or whatever you want to call it, I would just suggest a modification to the code:

Instead of using bytes_in_flight here and the helper function IsAppLimited, introduce a new variable window_full that is only set in OnPacketSent. At the end of each call to that function, if bytes_in_flight is close enough to congestion_window set it to true, otherwise false. Then below, you use that variable to decide if the cwnd should be increased..

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>  encryption level are needed for a short time after keys for a newer encryption
 level are available.
 
-An endpoint can only discard keys for a given encryption level only after it has
-both received and acknowledged all CRYPTO frames for that encryption level and
-when it has had all CRYPTO frames for that encryption level acknowledged by its
+An endpoint cannot discard keys for a given encryption level unless it has both
+received and acknowledged all CRYPTO frames for that encryption level and when
+it all CRYPTO frames for that encryption level have been acknowledged by its

"and when it all"

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2679,7 +2679,9 @@ endpoint receives.
 This design relies on the peer always sending a connection ID in its packets so
 that the endpoint can use the connection ID from a packet to reset the
 connection.  An endpoint that uses this design cannot allow its peers to send
-packets with a zero-length destination connection ID.
+packets with a zero-length destination connection ID and need to either use a

"use a the same"

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2679,7 +2679,9 @@ endpoint receives.
 This design relies on the peer always sending a connection ID in its packets so
 that the endpoint can use the connection ID from a packet to reset the
 connection.  An endpoint that uses this design cannot allow its peers to send
-packets with a zero-length destination connection ID.
+packets with a zero-length destination connection ID and need to either use a
+the same connection ID length for all connections or ensure that the connection
+ID encodes its own length in a common fixed portion.

Yeah, that might be a little more specific than is needed. You could just say "...connection ID encodes its own length in a method the server can recover without state."

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2679,7 +2679,9 @@ endpoint receives.
 This design relies on the peer always sending a connection ID in its packets so
 that the endpoint can use the connection ID from a packet to reset the
 connection.  An endpoint that uses this design cannot allow its peers to send
-packets with a zero-length destination connection ID.
+packets with a zero-length destination connection ID and need to either use a

need -> needs

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@kazuho, also recall that the design we're discussing in the design team doesn't permit an endpoint to force a CID change on the peer.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2679,7 +2679,9 @@ endpoint receives.
 This design relies on the peer always sending a connection ID in its packets so
 that the endpoint can use the connection ID from a packet to reset the
 connection.  An endpoint that uses this design cannot allow its peers to send
-packets with a zero-length destination connection ID.
+packets with a zero-length destination connection ID and need to either use a
+the same connection ID length for all connections or ensure that the connection
+ID encodes its own length in a common fixed portion.

Agreed, you could even use trial decryption if you really wanted :)

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2679,7 +2679,9 @@ endpoint receives.
 This design relies on the peer always sending a connection ID in its packets so
 that the endpoint can use the connection ID from a packet to reset the
 connection.  An endpoint that uses this design cannot allow its peers to send
-packets with a zero-length destination connection ID.
+packets with a zero-length destination connection ID and need to either use a

Good catch. I was reading "packets ... need", but it's actually "An endpoint ... needs"

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1115,13 +1119,19 @@ acked_packet from sent_packets.
 ~~~
    InRecovery(packet_number):
      return packet_number <= end_of_recovery
+   
+   IsAppLimited():
+     bytes_in_flight >= congestion_window - kMaximumDatagramSize

That seems better, yes. When you say "close enough", I assume that you mean "so close that you couldn't send anything meaningful", something like headerlen+sizeof(cid)+16+sizeof(STREAM frame overhead), so maybe sizeof(cid)+32 ?

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1115,13 +1119,19 @@ acked_packet from sent_packets.
 ~~~
    InRecovery(packet_number):
      return packet_number <= end_of_recovery
+   
+   IsAppLimited():
+     bytes_in_flight >= congestion_window - kMaximumDatagramSize

I'm okay with what's in the pseudocode -- so close you couldn't send another full-size datagram.

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Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b6b743ad6fdc_7b492afb9f556f70568be"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2018 22:52:47 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b6b743ad6fdc_7b492afb9f556f70568be Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Branch: refs/heads/http/0rtt_consistency Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: 1d1dbce1bbb398de31f54f5d3e080c5e422898da https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1d1dbce1bbb398de31f54f5d3e080c5e422898da Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2018-08-08 (Wed, 08 Aug 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- Previous SETTINGS MUST be remembered, can't be reduced for 0-RTT **NOTE:** This service has been marked for deprecation: https://developer.github.com/changes/2018-04-25-github-services-deprecation/ Functionality will be removed from GitHub.com on January 31st, 2019. ----==_mimepart_5b6b743ad6fdc_7b492afb9f556f70568be-- From nobody Wed Aug 8 15:54:30 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63663130E94 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2018 15:54:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hJ4Wr7CNOdOn for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2018 15:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A841D130E80 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2018 15:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2018 15:54:25 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533768865; bh=TqNcJ//F8TusKvXimQ7fWnTaXDMDop64yOOcgmgXts8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=YN+S0m7HTo1nBpQ3kdI4IIn6ai8LlC/giaowt0lXjJIwqkWxWbHB46KOd570UgXzr gMPLYf05aVPPddzLWptIgqtABg4xT+8koH3m1zhXQ7q6z9cmIRzKSr4yJEbM4T8SYx SbHaP2u/6gPhSXtuu5xDRXPjsgFwBgIERKKU6sfg= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Previous SETTINGS MUST be remembered, can't be reduced for 0-RTT (#1641) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b6b74a1b62a5_1f4c3f82098be618964b5"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2018 22:54:29 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b6b74a1b62a5_1f4c3f82098be618964b5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fixes #1541. Per discussion in Montreal, this aligns with the transport draft. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1641 -- Commit Summary -- * Previous SETTINGS MUST be remembered, can't be reduced for 0-RTT -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (16) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1641.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1641.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1641 ----==_mimepart_5b6b74a1b62a5_1f4c3f82098be618964b5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Fixes #1541. Per discussion in Montreal, this aligns with the transport draft.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1641

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  • Previous SETTINGS MUST be remembered, can't be reduced for 0-RTT

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit While I do think that having the table initialize to zero and requiring an explicit size change from the encoder is probably the least bug-prone, I'm willing to save the two bytes and specify that the table begins at the decoder's maximum permitted size as of... whenever. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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While I do think that having the table initialize to zero and requiring an explicit size change from the encoder is probably the least bug-prone, I'm willing to save the two bytes and specify that the table begins at the decoder's maximum permitted size as of... whenever.

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Makes the initial size the applicable limit when the encoder is first usable. For 0-RTT on clients, that's the remembered value regardless of later SETTINGS frames (and per #1641, that value can't be reduced but might be increased later). For 1-RTT clients and servers always, that's just the value in the SETTINGS frame. Text feels rather ugly; wordsmithing suggestions gratefully accepted. Note that this is one more reason the server can't do anything until it has seen the client's SETTINGS frame, but that's a prohibition we already have. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1642 -- Commit Summary -- * Initial table size is the maximum permitted when table is first usable -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md (10) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1642.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1642.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Fixes #1530.

Makes the initial size the applicable limit when the encoder is first usable. For 0-RTT on clients, that's the remembered value regardless of later SETTINGS frames (and per #1641, that value can't be reduced but might be increased later). For 1-RTT clients and servers always, that's just the value in the SETTINGS frame.

Text feels rather ugly; wordsmithing suggestions gratefully accepted.

Note that this is one more reason the server can't do anything until it has seen the client's SETTINGS frame, but that's a prohibition we already have.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1642

Commit Summary

  • Initial table size is the maximum permitted when table is first usable

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1115,13 +1119,19 @@ acked_packet from sent_packets.
 ~~~
    InRecovery(packet_number):
      return packet_number <= end_of_recovery
+   
+   IsAppLimited():
+     bytes_in_flight >= congestion_window - kMaximumDatagramSize

I was specifically not defining "close enough". I am fine with a single datagram size or something smaller.

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The dynamic table is initially empty. Entries are added by instructions on the encoder stream (see {{encoder-stream}}). +The maximum size of the dynamic table can be modified by the encoder, subject to +a decoder-controlled limit (see {{configuration}} and {{size-update}}). The +initial maximum size is the applicable value of this limit when HTTP requests or +responses are first permitted to be sent. For clients using 0-RTT data in +HTTP/QUIC, this means that the table size is the remembered value of +`SETTINGS_HEADER_TABLE_SIZE`, even if the server later specifies a larger +maximum in its SETTINGS frame. For HTTP/QUIC servers and HTTP/QUIC clients not +using 0-RTT data, this means that the initial maximum table size is the value of Rather than using here, you might want to say something like "when 0-RTT is not attempted, or it is rejected". > @@ -127,6 +127,16 @@ The dynamic table consists of a list of header fields maintained in first-in, first-out order. The dynamic table is initially empty. Entries are added by instructions on the encoder stream (see {{encoder-stream}}). +The maximum size of the dynamic table can be modified by the encoder, subject to +a decoder-controlled limit (see {{configuration}} and {{size-update}}). The +initial maximum size is the applicable value of this limit when HTTP requests or +responses are first permitted to be sent. For clients using 0-RTT data in It might be enough to say that "the initial maximum is determined by the corresponding setting". -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1642#pullrequestreview-144648159 ----==_mimepart_5b6b807285a59_6e63fec0ead45b41462db Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -127,6 +127,16 @@ The dynamic table consists of a list of header fields maintained in first-in,
 first-out order.  The dynamic table is initially empty.  Entries are added by
 instructions on the encoder stream (see {{encoder-stream}}).
 
+The maximum size of the dynamic table can be modified by the encoder, subject to
+a decoder-controlled limit (see {{configuration}} and {{size-update}}).  The
+initial maximum size is the applicable value of this limit when HTTP requests or
+responses are first permitted to be sent. For clients using 0-RTT data in
+HTTP/QUIC, this means that the table size is the remembered value of
+`SETTINGS_HEADER_TABLE_SIZE`, even if the server later specifies a larger
+maximum in its SETTINGS frame.  For HTTP/QUIC servers and HTTP/QUIC clients not
+using 0-RTT data, this means that the initial maximum table size is the value of

Rather than using here, you might want to say something like "when 0-RTT is not attempted, or it is rejected".

In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -127,6 +127,16 @@ The dynamic table consists of a list of header fields maintained in first-in,
 first-out order.  The dynamic table is initially empty.  Entries are added by
 instructions on the encoder stream (see {{encoder-stream}}).
 
+The maximum size of the dynamic table can be modified by the encoder, subject to
+a decoder-controlled limit (see {{configuration}} and {{size-update}}).  The
+initial maximum size is the applicable value of this limit when HTTP requests or
+responses are first permitted to be sent. For clients using 0-RTT data in

It might be enough to say that "the initial maximum is determined by the corresponding setting".

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fixes #1596 (and an oversight I caught in passing) by specifying server behavior if it reaches the end of readable data on a stream and hasn't parsed a full HTTP request yet. There are a couple cases here, and I think this generically covers all the interesting ones. - **Client sends FIN early.** Server sees truncated request, but non-error end of stream. - **Client sends RST_STREAM part-way through request.** Server sees truncated request with read error. - **Client sends a RST_STREAM (but not a STOP_SENDING) after sending a fully-formed request.** - **...and packet loss occurred.** No retransmissions, so same as sending it part-way through request. - **...after the server has read the request and generated / begun generating a response.** The server probably never realizes and responds merrily. If you didn't want it, you should have sent a STOP_SENDING. - **...but before the server has read all the data out of the buffer.** Depends on implementation; transport might discard unread data or deliver all the data anyway. Either way, this is identical to one of the two previous cases. We already discuss cancelling requests, so I added a suggestion that clients go ahead and include a STOP_SENDING if they reset their request stream. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1643 -- Commit Summary -- * HTTP_EARLY_RESPONSE not defined (Whoops\!) * Define HTTP_INCOMPLETE_REQUEST * Recommend bidirectional cancellation for clients -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (30) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1643.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1643.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1643 ----==_mimepart_5b6b842496859_3cc73f8d756d45c4548d4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Fixes #1596 (and an oversight I caught in passing) by specifying server behavior if it reaches the end of readable data on a stream and hasn't parsed a full HTTP request yet. There are a couple cases here, and I think this generically covers all the interesting ones.

  • Client sends FIN early. Server sees truncated request, but non-error end of stream.
  • Client sends RST_STREAM part-way through request. Server sees truncated request with read error.
  • Client sends a RST_STREAM (but not a STOP_SENDING) after sending a fully-formed request.
    • ...and packet loss occurred. No retransmissions, so same as sending it part-way through request.
    • ...after the server has read the request and generated / begun generating a response. The server probably never realizes and responds merrily. If you didn't want it, you should have sent a STOP_SENDING.
    • ...but before the server has read all the data out of the buffer. Depends on implementation; transport might discard unread data or deliver all the data anyway. Either way, this is identical to one of the two previous cases.

We already discuss cancelling requests, so I added a suggestion that clients go ahead and include a STOP_SENDING if they reset their request stream.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1643

Commit Summary

  • HTTP_EARLY_RESPONSE not defined (Whoops\!)
  • Define HTTP_INCOMPLETE_REQUEST
  • Recommend bidirectional cancellation for clients

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Something about the special rules here seems just wrong. I have an alternative approach for this that I think is neater. > @@ -317,8 +318,13 @@ client abort transmission of a request without error by triggering a QUIC STOP_SENDING with error code HTTP_EARLY_RESPONSE, sending a complete response, and cleanly closing its streams. Clients MUST NOT discard complete responses as a result of having their request terminated abruptly, though clients can always -discard responses at their discretion for other reasons. Servers MUST NOT -abort a response in progress as a result of receiving a solicited RST_STREAM. +discard responses at their discretion for other reasons. + +Servers MUST NOT abort a response in progress as a result of receiving a +solicited RST_STREAM (i.e. with error code STOPPING). If the request stream missing comma after "i.e." > @@ -317,8 +318,13 @@ client abort transmission of a request without error by triggering a QUIC STOP_SENDING with error code HTTP_EARLY_RESPONSE, sending a complete response, and cleanly closing its streams. Clients MUST NOT discard complete responses as a result of having their request terminated abruptly, though clients can always -discard responses at their discretion for other reasons. Servers MUST NOT -abort a response in progress as a result of receiving a solicited RST_STREAM. +discard responses at their discretion for other reasons. + +Servers MUST NOT abort a response in progress as a result of receiving a Perhaps the way to do this is to say: Cancellation of a request stream does not prevent a server from sending a response. A client that does not want a response SHOULD send a STOP_SENDING frame. A server does not need to take receipt of a RST_STREAM as a signal that it cannot provide a response, though it might be unable to do so. If a stream is reset by the client and the server is unable to respond as a result, it can treat that as a stream error of type HTTP_INCOMPLETE_REQUEST. This is a different structure - it says that any STOP_SENDING and RST_STREAM on the request side of a stream only cancel the request and not the response. But I think that this is neater - it avoids all of the coupling you have going on here. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1643#pullrequestreview-144651478 ----==_mimepart_5b6ba60d580b2_5033fd6cc2be624229576 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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Something about the special rules here seems just wrong. I have an alternative approach for this that I think is neater.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -317,8 +318,13 @@ client abort transmission of a request without error by triggering a QUIC
 STOP_SENDING with error code HTTP_EARLY_RESPONSE, sending a complete response,
 and cleanly closing its streams. Clients MUST NOT discard complete responses as
 a result of having their request terminated abruptly, though clients can always
-discard responses at their discretion for other reasons.  Servers MUST NOT
-abort a response in progress as a result of receiving a solicited RST_STREAM.
+discard responses at their discretion for other reasons.
+
+Servers MUST NOT abort a response in progress as a result of receiving a
+solicited RST_STREAM (i.e. with error code STOPPING).  If the request stream

missing comma after "i.e."

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -317,8 +318,13 @@ client abort transmission of a request without error by triggering a QUIC
 STOP_SENDING with error code HTTP_EARLY_RESPONSE, sending a complete response,
 and cleanly closing its streams. Clients MUST NOT discard complete responses as
 a result of having their request terminated abruptly, though clients can always
-discard responses at their discretion for other reasons.  Servers MUST NOT
-abort a response in progress as a result of receiving a solicited RST_STREAM.
+discard responses at their discretion for other reasons.
+
+Servers MUST NOT abort a response in progress as a result of receiving a

Perhaps the way to do this is to say:

Cancellation of a request stream does not prevent a server from sending a response. A client that does not want a response SHOULD send a STOP_SENDING frame. A server does not need to take receipt of a RST_STREAM as a signal that it cannot provide a response, though it might be unable to do so. If a stream is reset by the client and the server is unable to respond as a result, it can treat that as a stream error of type HTTP_INCOMPLETE_REQUEST.

This is a different structure - it says that any STOP_SENDING and RST_STREAM on the request side of a stream only cancel the request and not the response. But I think that this is neater - it avoids all of the coupling you have going on here.

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It includes changes to address a few problems identified by @martinthomson._ Abstract -------- The practical and theoretical problems caused by the unbounded absolute index values in the current QPACK Internet Draft are discussed. The proposal to impose a limit on the range of absolute index values by wrapping them is presented. Background ---------- The current QPACK draft states that > [the] first entry inserted has an absolute index of "1"; indices increase sequentially with each insertion. No upper limit is specified. This is reasonable, as it is impossible to run out of numbers. Nevertheless, an absolute index whose value is ever-increasing creates significant problems. Problem 1: Compression Impact ----------------------------- A large absolute index value has a negative effect on compression. The unadjusted value of the absolute index is used in the _Largest Reference_ field in the _Header Data Prefix_. Larger values mean that more bytes are necessary to encode them. For example, using 8-bit prefix integer encoding, values larger than 254 encode to 2 bytes, larger than 382 to 3 bytes, and larger than 16638 to 4 bytes. Relatively quickly, the overhead associated with communicating the absolute index doubles and then triples. Problem 2: Theoretical Concerns ------------------------------- Why should compression at _t(1)_ be worse than at _t(0)_? An ability to operate at the optimum level in perpetuity is a good property for a protocol to have. Problem 3: Implementation Efficiency ------------------------------------ A QPACK implementation has to place some limits on the value of the absolute index -- simply because it has to pick an integral type to store it. For example, uint64_t is likely large enough for all uses of the protocol, but it is wider than uint32_t and may be more expensive to process. On other platforms, uint16_t may be the fastest integer; the unbounded nature of the absolute index would rule out its use. Such limit also requires an [extra check](https://github.com/litespeedtech/ls-qpack/blob/122d1163eaca359f5d79cd608722b1b19acad15f/src/lsqpack.c#L1110) to cease inserting entries into the dynamic table once the maximum value for the integer is reached. (One can run out of numbers in practice...) Solution: Have the Absolute Index Wrap Around --------------------------------------------- The main insight of the proposal is that the dynamic table has a bounded number of entries, that both encoder and decoder know what this number is, and that both can use this information to place an absolute index value communicated to it by its peer at the correct place in the sequence. The dynamic table has a maximum size which is specified at the beginning of the connection and which never changes afterwards. The current size of the table is the sum of all its entry sizes. The entry size is the sum of the fixed overhead plus the lengths of the name and the value strings. It is this fixed entry overhead that places a hard limit on the number of entries in the dynamic table: ``` MaxEntries = MaxTableSize / FixedEntryOverhead ``` For example, using the current QPACK defaults, this number is ``` MaxEntries = 4096 / 32 = 128 ``` Imagine an encoder or decoder whose largest absolute index value (referred to as the total number of insertions in the QPACK draft) is `X`. The smallest valid absolute index value its peer could possibly communicate to it is `X - MaxEntries + 1`. The value of the largest possible absolute index value at a certain point in time cannot be known in the current specification of QPACK. This is because the encoder is allowed to insert an unlimited number of entries into the dynamic table -- for example, speculative updates -- as long as their eviction is not blocked. Nevertheless, such behavior is unlikely to be useful in practice. The proposal is to limit the number of unacked insertions into the dynamic table to a multiple of `MaxEntries`. Let's call this number `CeilMul`. Given the two limits above, we can wrap the absolute index value without loss of information. The proposal is to limit the absolute index values to the range ``` [ 1, MaxEntries * (1 + CeilMul) ] ``` Continuing with the QPACK defaults example above and using `CeilMul = 1`, the sequence would go ``` 1, 2, 3, ... 254, 255, 256, 1, 2, ... (and so on). ``` The compression overhead cost is now a function of the maximum table size (and not a function of time as before). To continue with our example, out of 256 possible values, 254 encode to 1 byte and 2 to two bytes. A 64 KB table results in a maximum encoding of 3 bytes, while a 1 MB table has a maximum encoding of 4 bytes. Changes to the Draft -------------------- The following changes are necessary: 1. 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What follows is a modified version of the original proposal on the mailing list. It includes changes to address a few problems identified by @martinthomson.

Abstract

The practical and theoretical problems caused by the unbounded absolute index values in the current QPACK Internet Draft are discussed. The proposal to impose a limit on the range of absolute index values by wrapping them is presented.

Background

The current QPACK draft states that

[the] first entry inserted has an absolute index of "1"; indices increase sequentially with each insertion.

No upper limit is specified. This is reasonable, as it is impossible to run out of numbers.

Nevertheless, an absolute index whose value is ever-increasing creates significant problems.

Problem 1: Compression Impact

A large absolute index value has a negative effect on compression. The unadjusted value of the
absolute index is used in the Largest Reference field in the Header Data Prefix.

Larger values mean that more bytes are necessary to encode them. For example, using 8-bit prefix integer encoding, values larger than 254 encode to 2 bytes, larger than 382 to 3 bytes, and larger than 16638 to 4 bytes.

Relatively quickly, the overhead associated with communicating the absolute index doubles and then triples.

Problem 2: Theoretical Concerns

Why should compression at t(1) be worse than at t(0)? An ability to operate at the optimum level in perpetuity is a good property for a protocol to have.

Problem 3: Implementation Efficiency

A QPACK implementation has to place some limits on the value of the absolute index -- simply because it has to pick an integral type to store it. For example, uint64_t is likely large enough for all uses of the protocol, but it is wider than uint32_t and may be more expensive to process. On other platforms, uint16_t may be the fastest integer; the unbounded nature of the absolute index would rule out its use.

Such limit also requires an extra check to cease inserting entries into the dynamic table once the maximum value for the integer is reached. (One can run out of numbers in practice...)

Solution: Have the Absolute Index Wrap Around

The main insight of the proposal is that the dynamic table has a bounded number of entries, that both encoder and decoder know what this number is, and that both can use this information to place an absolute index value communicated to it by its peer at the correct place in the sequence.

The dynamic table has a maximum size which is specified at the beginning of the connection and which never changes afterwards. The current size of the table is the sum of all its entry sizes. The entry size is the sum of the fixed overhead plus the lengths of the name and the value strings. It is this fixed entry overhead that places a hard limit on the number of entries in the dynamic table:

    MaxEntries = MaxTableSize / FixedEntryOverhead

For example, using the current QPACK defaults, this number is

    MaxEntries = 4096 / 32 = 128

Imagine an encoder or decoder whose largest absolute index value (referred to as the total number of insertions in the QPACK draft) is X. The smallest valid absolute index value its peer could possibly communicate to it is X - MaxEntries + 1.

The value of the largest possible absolute index value at a certain point in time cannot be known in the current specification of QPACK. This is because the encoder is allowed to insert an unlimited number of entries into the dynamic table -- for example, speculative updates -- as long as their eviction is not blocked. Nevertheless, such behavior is unlikely to be useful in practice. The proposal is to limit the number of unacked insertions into the dynamic table to a multiple of MaxEntries. Let's call this number CeilMul.

Given the two limits above, we can wrap the absolute index value without loss of information. The proposal is to limit the absolute index values to the range

    [ 1, MaxEntries * (1 + CeilMul) ]

Continuing with the QPACK defaults example above and using CeilMul = 1, the sequence would go

    1, 2, 3, ... 254, 255, 256, 1, 2, ... (and so on).

The compression overhead cost is now a function of the maximum table size (and not a function of time as before).

To continue with our example, out of 256 possible values, 254 encode to 1 byte and 2 to two bytes. A 64 KB table results in a maximum encoding of 3 bytes, while a 1 MB table has a maximum encoding of 4 bytes.

Changes to the Draft

The following changes are necessary:

  1. The definition of the absolute index changes: now its values are calculated using modular arithmetic.
  2. The window size calculation based on the maximum dynamic table size needs to be added.

Conclusion

Limiting the range of values the absolute index can have improves compression and implementation efficiency and removes the time penalty from the QPACK protocol. A mechanism to do just that using existing QPACK parameters is hereby proposed.

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So the text in #1642 looks fine, but I would like a clarification (or confirmation): Is the = 0-RTT dynamic table size presumed by the client implicit? That is, the cli= ent says: "let's use the table size we used before -- you know the value I = mean!"

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= ----==_mimepart_5b6c4389446a3_258c3ff85fcbe6242110a8-- From nobody Thu Aug 9 07:25:35 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52770130E2E for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2018 07:25:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CXlQkHG27gyZ for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2018 07:25:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5052E130DD2 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2018 07:25:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2018 07:25:30 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533824730; bh=h2aw4bZn3IzhyxE7QQDjpW0XE9fNpCNaquHgdbYWGvA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ZF9pPouAXjM7d0wroQ0m9AYkp6GETBU42MBHitK3sOnGdKUOZx7bM18vX/BjFluZM q/q8GBBEydK7ah7tO69gV5Sb0tT61y84xGQFbuU5Dje90xksBO2AfhXlCo2VvL0S1E ES6tyrIDwjfG6Y8JuW4lZJ2rCFVYzM3+vPm2y6I0= From: ekr Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Fixed length CID or encode length somehow (#1640) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b6c4eda3f69c_293d3ff3ebed45bc169386"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ekr X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2018 14:25:34 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b6c4eda3f69c_293d3ff3ebed45bc169386 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ekr commented on this pull request. > @@ -2679,7 +2679,9 @@ endpoint receives. This design relies on the peer always sending a connection ID in its packets so that the endpoint can use the connection ID from a packet to reset the connection. An endpoint that uses this design cannot allow its peers to send -packets with a zero-length destination connection ID. +packets with a zero-length destination connection ID and need to either use +the same connection ID length for all connections or encode the length of +the connection ID such that it can be recovered without state. Late to the party, but this is pretty hard to read. I believe that it is intended to say: (1) must not use a zero-length CID (2) must have CID length be either (a) constant or (b) encoded in the CID itself But the use of "cannot allow" might instead say you can't do both of these together instead. I would instead suggest. "an endpoint that uses this design MUST either use the same connection ID length for all connections or encode the length of the connection ID such that it can be recovered without state. In addition, it MUST NOT provide zero-length destination connection IDs to its peers". -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1640#pullrequestreview-144865692 ----==_mimepart_5b6c4eda3f69c_293d3ff3ebed45bc169386 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2679,7 +2679,9 @@ endpoint receives.
 This design relies on the peer always sending a connection ID in its packets so
 that the endpoint can use the connection ID from a packet to reset the
 connection.  An endpoint that uses this design cannot allow its peers to send
-packets with a zero-length destination connection ID.
+packets with a zero-length destination connection ID and need to either use
+the same connection ID length for all connections or encode the length of
+the connection ID such that it can be recovered without state.

Late to the party, but this is pretty hard to read. I believe that it is intended to say:

(1) must not use a zero-length CID
(2) must have CID length be either (a) constant or (b) encoded in the CID itself

But the use of "cannot allow" might instead say you can't do both of these together instead. I would instead suggest.

"an endpoint that uses this design MUST either use the same connection ID length for all connections or encode the length of the connection ID such that it can be recovered without state. In addition, it MUST NOT provide zero-length destination connection IDs to its peers".

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That should probably be documented somewhere... applicability statement?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1834,26 +1834,31 @@ congestion in the network by setting a codepoint in the IP header of a packet
 instead of dropping it.  Endpoints react to congestion by reducing their sending
 rate in response, as described in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.
 
-To use ECN, QUIC endpoints first determine whether a path and peer support ECN
-marking. Verifying the path occurs at the beginning of a connection and when the
-connection migrates to a new path (see {{migration}}).
-
-Each endpoint independently verifies and enables ECN for the path from it to the
-peer.
-
-To verify that both a path and the peer support ECN, an endpoint MUST set one of
-the ECN Capable Transport (ECT) codepoints -- ECT(0) or ECT(1) -- in the IP
-header {{!RFC8311}} of all outgoing packets.
+To use ECN, QUIC endpoints first determine whether a path supports ECN
+marking and the peer is able to access the ECN codepoint in the IP header.
+A network path regarded as not supporting ECN if ECN marked packets get dropped
+or ECN marking are rewritten on the path. An endpoint verifies the path, both

Actually the endpoint only verifies the forward path (the path from that endpoint to the other endpoint). Use of ECN of the "backward" path is verified by the other endpoint (given it's its forward path). Do we need to clarify this?

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Is it the transport that should automatically try to reconnect or the application? In the later case it's just the question about when should the transport give up and tell the application and probably to we want to fail the transport fast than TCP usually does?

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There are two parts of "support": one is using it on the forward path an= d the other one is to provide feedback to the other end that decided to use= ECN on its forward path. These are two independent decision and that's why= "supports ECN" is confusing. It could be "use ECN" and "supoort ECN feedba= ck" but I would rather recommend to just be clear and try to avoid any conf= usion at all.

Another point is that in TCP no ECN support can also mean that ECN is no= t implemented because it's an extension that was added later (and therefore= you need to negotiate it in the handshake). This should not be the case fo= r quic and we should not give the impression that the providing feedback is= an optional feature for implementation.

Also I think, If the other end wants to use ECN on its forward pass and = you are able to access the IP ECN bits, you respect the design of the other= end and send feedback. I guess we could make a stronger point about this..= .

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Actually as mentioned in #1619 one would need to also reduce the window if application-limited and the send window goes below the congestion window. See https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc7661/ for TCP.

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This got unfixed in version -13.

The end of Section 4.4.1 says:

   The payload of an Initial packet includes a CRYPTO frame (or frames)
   containing a cryptographic handshake message, ACK frames, or both.

whereas Section 4.4.1.4 says:

   The payload of a UDP datagram carrying the Initial packet MUST be
   expanded to at least 1200 octets (see Section 8), by adding PADDING
   frames to the Initial packet and/or by combining the Initial packet
   with a 0-RTT packet (see Section 4.6).

So PADDING frames need to be allowed in Section 4.4.1 as part of the Initial packet.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1862,9 +1867,8 @@ concerns.
 If an endpoint receives a packet without an ECT or CE codepoint, it responds per
 {{processing-and-ack}} with an ACK frame.
 
-If an endpoint does not support ECN or does not have access to received ECN
-codepoints, it acknowledges received packets per {{processing-and-ack}} with an
-ACK frame.
+If an endpoint does not have access to received ECN codepoints, it acknowledges

Rewrap, but without making the line long enough to produce a build break.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -317,8 +318,13 @@ client abort transmission of a request without error by triggering a QUIC
 STOP_SENDING with error code HTTP_EARLY_RESPONSE, sending a complete response,
 and cleanly closing its streams. Clients MUST NOT discard complete responses as
 a result of having their request terminated abruptly, though clients can always
-discard responses at their discretion for other reasons.  Servers MUST NOT
-abort a response in progress as a result of receiving a solicited RST_STREAM.
+discard responses at their discretion for other reasons.
+
+Servers MUST NOT abort a response in progress as a result of receiving a

I think that's basically what I was going for (the error at the server is that it doesn't have a complete request), but that's a clearer way to state it.

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----==_mimepart_5b6c798e2cc24_b3b3fa18bebe620337620-- From nobody Thu Aug 9 10:49:09 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69C5E130E90 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2018 10:49:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Yx9AmrHsUSrl for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2018 10:49:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o8.sgmail.github.com (o8.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.199]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AC663130E89 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2018 10:49:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=52juviRz82otNGuI43knVnbrZ3g=; b=fznaaKK2Dz034TtF ao7aspkyE7tEjEwFfVThjcGK/TqjszsYHHdflrrmPO79h7XUG0iqjsxC68RPsdK/ Bs9UCESHbf+9m7nS3j2w7x0B6kLoe/MaZzpH1u0FN4wdZ2W7sArF6cttVl4VE0CC wK6U9pcCJwJrt+pJy07J4kCWjiE= Received: by filter1370p1mdw1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter1370p1mdw1-22677-5B6C7E8F-B 2018-08-09 17:49:03.558542215 +0000 UTC m=+162439.709479351 Received: from github-lowworker-89d05ac.cp1-iad.github.net (unknown [192.30.252.35]) by ismtpd0005p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id BP5K01tSSQ6aQnTEo6bfXQ for ; Thu, 09 Aug 2018 17:49:03.595 +0000 (UTC) Received: from github.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by github-lowworker-89d05ac.cp1-iad.github.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E864AE0445 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2018 10:49:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2018 17:49:03 +0000 (UTC) From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QPACK improvement: wrap absolute index values (#1644) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b6c7e8f8cb45_5c5b3f94d54d45b4210882"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak3nQjdhip/4R7AD5WnnVVR5SQy8q7N+wKwxYn ccpWn8c8i+2N+DRISTOUtk/6U6/kp778Ibr88TUz9iPlNayqDhLArYhBd4AgBK35a2eOtv4ztI8zqC UMOrgsn+ZjCL0RNa4yLwYGPWYAgamikRbMIwOoV9JXZ4E+TMFNmdfKf4mhtqluMGuGILDKZDjqplYe 4= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2018 17:49:07 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b6c7e8f8cb45_5c5b3f94d54d45b4210882 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't disagree with the goals or the general mechanism. However, given that the max table size can change unilaterally over the course of a connection, it seems problematic to use that to determine the wrapping point. It needs to be something relatively stable over the lifetime of the connection, and that probably means the setting which bounds the max table size. Even that can change on a 0-RTT connection when the SETTINGS frame is received, but there's a simple way around that (assuming #1641). You tentatively calculate `MaxEntries` based on the remembered value, and prohibit sending more than `MaxEntries` entries prior to seeing the SETTINGS frame. Once you see the SETTINGS frame, you know where the wrap point actually is and you can wrap if you need to. For any reasonable value of the bound, that prohibition shouldn't be an issue. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1644#issuecomment-411841355 ----==_mimepart_5b6c7e8f8cb45_5c5b3f94d54d45b4210882 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I don't disagree with the goals or the general mechanism. However, give= n that the max table size can change unilaterally over the course of a conn= ection, it seems problematic to use that to determine the wrapping point. = It needs to be something relatively stable over the lifetime of the connect= ion, and that probably means the setting which bounds the max table size.

Even that can change on a 0-RTT connection when the SETTINGS frame is re= ceived, but there's a simple way around that (assuming #1641). You tentatively calculate = MaxEntries based on the remembered value, and prohibit sending more = than MaxEntries entries prior to seeing the SETTINGS frame. O= nce you see the SETTINGS frame, you know where the wrap point actually is a= nd you can wrap if you need to. For any reasonable value of the bound, tha= t prohibition shouldn't be an issue.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b6c7e8f8cb45_5c5b3f94d54d45b4210882-- From nobody Thu Aug 9 10:52:44 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D27E6130EAC for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2018 10:52:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id y1tQjnvHGCQy for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2018 10:52:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 76305131008 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2018 10:52:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2018 10:52:28 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533837148; bh=A0wbtNqVGBslfPDUYI0/YOmm1us92o5aUGziC4KGDdw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=HyBBC1F/gcnklLaW2xyFeKfxNgzcE0t3XGx8ZngGHh4S7lyxQvErFtVOocXnAyveI FQhWhC1xYJMF+qwYGxWtHcrpSURUBwlxPhDzNcDWJdyQ5siiRWh8HZUCfBKOf6sZtX UMHU+blb+D5bItxP17Vy5wkYTnqesIYIo8q64IOM= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Initial size of dynamic table (#1530) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b6c7f5ca4952_420f3fbbb6ad45c4114822"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2018 17:52:42 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b6c7f5ca4952_420f3fbbb6ad45c4114822 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's a requirement of the TLS implementation, not an applicability consideration for protocols that might want to use QUIC, so I'd be more inclined to see it called out in the TLS draft. It seems to belong in the more general category of "TLS stacks used for QUIC require the following features which aren't necessarily required for TLS/TCP". Note that it's #1641 that extends that behavior to the HTTP settings as well as the QUIC transport parameters, so that part is not in the doc yet. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1530#issuecomment-411842282 ----==_mimepart_5b6c7f5ca4952_420f3fbbb6ad45c4114822 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

It's a requirement of the TLS implementation, not an applicability con= sideration for protocols that might want to use QUIC, so I'd be more incl= ined to see it called out in the TLS draft. It seems to belong in the mo= re general category of "TLS stacks used for QUIC require the following fe= atures which aren't necessarily required for TLS/TCP".

Note that it's #= 1641 that extends that behavior to the HTTP settings as well as the Q= UIC transport parameters, so that part is not in the doc yet.

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It needs to be something relatively stable over the lifetime of the conn= ection, and that probably means the setting which bounds the max table size= .

That's what I meant by the sentence The dynamic table has a maximum = size which is specified at the beginning of the connection and which never = changes afterwards.

You tentatively calculate MaxEntries based on the remembere= d value, and prohibit sending more than MaxEntries entries pri= or to seeing the SETTINGS frame. Once you see the SETTINGS frame, you know = where the wrap point actually is and you can wrap if you need to. For any r= easonable value of the bound, that prohibition shouldn't be an issue.

That's a good idea. You can actually send up to MaxEntries * Ceil= Mul (whatever CeilMul is set to in the end) until you s= ee the SETTINGS frame.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b6c810177e1a_9673fe3abad45c01344c6-- From nobody Thu Aug 9 11:32:01 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90E49130E9E for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2018 11:31:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 95uJiW-n40jr for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2018 11:31:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BEA23130E9D for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2018 11:31:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2018 11:31:54 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533839514; bh=1ZRtZrjqdA9ijN661b8zjZMoDxjB9Vf8a0jvKyu+dEg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=SIjbFwVI/3NtBk1xWhkGdUnrJpQoJAs4XgdKxsXSYwsfZvXw8puneB4pIAy2TG3Yy Frl0ajf3vQwSArx9+azfMH4vE1GLR9q+/bL5vKxMzEXXsOlkLgfDFcZBfKmhuqVWDj SKWEEifjXGVJLBE+4SH8kGjVgyjrdJJ0fZoQ1+tw= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QPACK improvement: wrap absolute index values (#1644) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b6c889aa3486_9433fe3abad45c0384512"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2018 18:31:59 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b6c889aa3486_9433fe3abad45c0384512 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Okay, just terminology, then. Yes, I agree you can send as much as you're able to without wrapping, and artificially expanding the index range gives you more room at the potential price of bits in part of the sequence. It seems like the more efficient way to do that would be to: - Calculate `MaxEntries` - Figure out how many bytes are required to encode `MaxEntries` - Wrap at the maximum number encodable in that number of bytes It gets a less-fixed expansion, but the expansion is always free. `MaxEntries` as defined will already always be enough items to overflow the table, so I'm not particularly inclined to be much more aggressive than that. However, that's a little more obtuse to specify. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1644#issuecomment-411853975 ----==_mimepart_5b6c889aa3486_9433fe3abad45c0384512 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Okay, just terminology, then. Yes, I agree you can send as much as yo= u're able to without wrapping, and artificially expanding the index range= gives you more room at the potential price of bits in part of the sequen= ce.

It seems like the more efficient way to do that would be to:

  • Calculate MaxEntries
  • Figure out how many bytes are required to encode MaxEntries
  • Wrap at the maximum number encodable in that number of bytes

It gets a less-fixed expansion, but the expansion is always free. MaxEntries as defined will already always be enough items to ov= erflow the table, so I'm not particularly inclined to be much more aggres= sive than that. However, that's a little more obtuse to specify.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b6c889aa3486_9433fe3abad45c0384512-- From nobody Thu Aug 9 11:57:06 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21A3D1277BB for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2018 11:57:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gOJ_bsfGeXYM for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2018 11:57:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 39DFA130E2B for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2018 11:57:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2018 11:57:01 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533841021; bh=K0RAplBz3CP10lCdcQGuCfjYar+B4L/Ou+r9dIeWeUk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Msnhyetaz2GCJEE7djnbf49wwXnLuIOoZZetXzyf1dRAZvRaYL4SDDaU4EzOGu6TR B8tR4Ux3LAJNQtem2SuacoFAVGu/Xx515P1DeDn65wcoUR2ZWc15G50yqDzF5B1JVB LhnANmQygwlLPANmCZIhAxULWT/jb9r9pJK+sdkI= From: Dmitri Tikhonov Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QPACK improvement: wrap absolute index values (#1644) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b6c8e7d44c2f_5d343fd8310be624126398"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: dtikhonov X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2018 18:57:05 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b6c8e7d44c2f_5d343fd8310be624126398 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Why do you think that the range can be as small as `MaxEntries`? The proposal has it as at least twice that. I think the price of expansion to the maximum encodable number can be steep. If the window is 256, then the maximum encodable value in two bytes is 382. When the window is 256, the average length of the encoded number is `(254 * 1 + 2 * 2) / 256 = 1.008`. When you expand the window to 282, that number grows to `(254 * 1 + (382 - 254) * 2) / 382 = 1.335`. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1644#issuecomment-411861293 ----==_mimepart_5b6c8e7d44c2f_5d343fd8310be624126398 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Why do you think that the range can be as small as MaxEntries? The proposal has it as at least twice that.

I think the price of expansion to the maximum encodable number can be = steep. If the window is 256, then the maximum encodable value in two byt= es is 382. When the window is 256, the average length of the encoded num= ber is (254 * 1 + 2 * 2) / 256 =3D 1.008. When you expand t= he window to 282, that number grows to (254 * 1 + (382 - 254) * 2) = / 382 =3D 1.335.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b6c8e7d44c2f_5d343fd8310be624126398-- From nobody Thu Aug 9 12:26:44 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB8DB130ECB for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2018 12:26:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SCD1-w9fj9Fa for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2018 12:26:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D0B9E130FEA for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2018 12:26:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2018 12:26:39 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533842799; bh=soj22fvcnJ5CvSWftiMc3ADweeEB9IHnU77aj6MT5Ys=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=knCqqG3vlobMNZ5o0LvXoAJ9DzU7TXWxyXV2Ik3ZAT9DVpJxQfboeO7KaA/NMeZrb T5o3V+G9DMkVA4aqfDjWRPfhPIRkjRc1q1RqoO3t9gJaI36kVIcS2Scu4DiuHeB8gV K9OAnOl/a/UWBflKf9nhR6tzcjYucSUpxPpoxUt0= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QPACK improvement: wrap absolute index values (#1644) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b6c956fc4c4f_8b73fba62ed45c0829c1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2018 19:26:44 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b6c956fc4c4f_8b73fba62ed45c0829c1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think doubling-or-more is attempting to guard against a situation where X was valid pre-wrap but about to expire, then enough entries are added that X is valid again post-wrap, and there's confusion about whether a new frame refers to the old or new one, correct? If so, the existing prohibition on evicting entries which still have references should ensure that there's no confusion, and the fact that real entry sizes will produce more of a gap in real usage further insulates us from the problem. If it's intended to prevent a different issue, please clarify. Your math about how much it costs is correct, but somewhat misconstrues the idea -- the window is being expanded to the rest of the byte *instead of* being doubled or more, not expanded after doubling. For smaller table sizes, that's more conservative. So for example, modulo any off-by-one errors in counting: | MaxEntries | Expansion | Doubled | |---|---|---| | 128 | [0..254) = 1 byte | (254 * 1 + 2 * 2) / 256 = 1.008 bytes | | 256 | [0..382) = (254 * 1 + 128 * 2) / 382 = 1.335 bytes | [0..512) = (254 * 1 + 128 * 2 + 130 * 3) = 1.76 bytes | | 2000 | [0..16639) = (254 * 1 + 128 * 2 + 16257 * 3) = 2.96 bytes | [0..4000) = (254 * 1 + 128 * 2 + 3618 * 3) = 2.81 bytes However, you're right that it becomes more tilted to the largest possible encoding once you pass two bytes, so that's not ideal for very large table sizes. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1644#issuecomment-411869426 ----==_mimepart_5b6c956fc4c4f_8b73fba62ed45c0829c1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I think doubling-or-more is attempting to guard against a situation wh= ere X was valid pre-wrap but about to expire, then enough entries are add= ed that X is valid again post-wrap, and there's confusion about whether a= new frame refers to the old or new one, correct? If so, the existing pr= ohibition on evicting entries which still have references should ensure t= hat there's no confusion, and the fact that real entry sizes will produce= more of a gap in real usage further insulates us from the problem. If i= t's intended to prevent a different issue, please clarify.

Your math about how much it costs is correct, but somewhat misconstrue= s the idea -- the window is being expanded to the rest of the byte in= stead of being doubled or more, not expanded after doubling. For sm= aller table sizes, that's more conservative.

So for example, modulo any off-by-one errors in counting:

MaxEntries Expansion Doubled
128 [0..254) =3D 1 byte (254 * 1 + 2 * 2) / 256 =3D 1.008 bytes
256 [0..382) =3D (254 * 1 + 128 * 2) / 382 =3D 1.335 bytes [0..512) =3D (254 * 1 + 128 * 2 + 130 * 3) =3D 1.76 bytes
2000 [0..16639) =3D (254 * 1 + 128 * 2 + 16257 * 3) =3D 2.96 bytes [0..4000) =3D (254 * 1 + 128 * 2 + 3618 * 3) =3D 2.81 bytes

However, you're right that it becomes more tilted to the largest possi= ble encoding once you pass two bytes, so that's not ideal for very large = table sizes.

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In https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-tls.html#initial-secrets it says,

The hash function for HKDF when deriving handshake secrets and keys is SHA-256

Is this supposed to be initial secrets instead?

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----==_mimepart_5b6ca8645497e_1def3fbedd2be61c1327db-- From nobody Thu Aug 9 13:56:23 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 798B2130EF7 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2018 13:56:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ckdih8gsEagw for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2018 13:56:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B950130FA0 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2018 13:56:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2018 13:56:11 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533848171; bh=qt02lin8zffewjB/eoxLhtCAt8eFLbXtmUV+wTmlFZo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=DbvF3jetjXfi5ZcCz0phobTa2heWDuOIHQyZhs12Zn/++qwKpNDPcYgFy8oCMKqf3 QM3sSxAQpNGCr3Zcgd70BavQQBJkXeGbPCF0aLHTePVfot6U++cA7tv+utuCHsPhdd U2qvb6MOHtd6wy7eqXFTCUFoYVBW6+VrquW5KgZk= From: Dmitri Tikhonov Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QPACK improvement: wrap absolute index values (#1644) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b6caa6be2b5c_42073f879b6be6287294d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: dtikhonov X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2018 20:56:22 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b6caa6be2b5c_42073f879b6be6287294d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I think doubling-or-more is attempting to guard against a situation where X was valid pre-wrap but about to expire, then enough entries are added that X is valid again post-wrap, and there's confusion about whether a new frame refers to the old or new one, correct? If so, Almost, but not quite (or maybe we _are_ talking about the same thing -- in that case, apologies): The particular values of the index -- pre-wrap or post-wrap -- do not really matter, as what matters is where they are relative to the position of the latest entry -- either to the left of it or to the right of it. > the existing prohibition on evicting entries which still have references should ensure that there's no confusion Please note that a dynamic entry may have no references (e.g. a speculative update). The encoder is currently allowed to insert an unlimited number of entries into the table -- and evict them -- if no headers reference them. The purpose of making the window larger than `MaxEntries` is to provide low and high boundaries. Since the numbers wrap, the decoder must be able to classify an incoming _Largest Reference_ as something that it is supposed to possess (the lower bound, or past) or as a future reference that the header block should be blocked on (the upper bound). The low bound is the absolute index of the decoder's newest entry in the dynamic table minus `MaxEntries` plus one. A difference of `MaxEntries` or more would indicate that the encoder has inserted more than `MaxEntries` into the dynamic table, which is an error. Thus, the window must be at least `MaxEntries` to cover entries that may already exist. Because the index wraps, we need more room for the "future" entries -- those on which the header block will block on. The proposal is to extend the window another `MaxEntries` and place additional restrictions on the encoder to guarantee that no more than that number of entries be unacknowledged. The full range of values can be separated into two broad sections, Past and Future: ``` 1 MaxAbsIndexId | Past | Future | | Error area | Current Dynamic Table X | | ^ | / Latest Entry ``` _(Absolute index value increases from left to right and then wraps around. The diagram has `X = MaxEntries` for convenience.)_ After classifying the incoming _Largest Reference_ as Past or Future, the decoder either: - Marks the header block as blocked and parks the stream (Future); - Processes the header block (Past, with _Largest Reference_ pointing to a valid table entry); or - Produces an error if the _Largest Reference_ points to an already-evicted entry. Reserving `MaxEntries` for the lower bound and a healthy number of entries for the future entries makes for rules that are easy to reason about. This gives us a theoretical guarantee, so to speak, without using arguments such as "in practice, entries are larger then the fixed overhead." A smaller window, I am afraid, will require much more complicated rules. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1644#issuecomment-411894178 ----==_mimepart_5b6caa6be2b5c_42073f879b6be6287294d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I think doubling-or-more is attempting to guard against a situation wh= ere X was valid pre-wrap but about to expire, then enough entries are add= ed that X is valid again post-wrap, and there's confusion about whether a= new frame refers to the old or new one, correct? If so,

Almost, but not quite (or maybe we are talking about the same= thing -- in that case, apologies): The particular values of the index -= - pre-wrap or post-wrap -- do not really matter, as what matters is where= they are relative to the position of the latest entry -- either to the l= eft of it or to the right of it.

the existing prohibition on evicting entries which still have referenc= es should ensure that there's no confusion

Please note that a dynamic entry may have no references (e.g. a specul= ative update). The encoder is currently allowed to insert an unlimited n= umber of entries into the table -- and evict them -- if no headers refere= nce them.

The purpose of making the window larger than MaxEntries i= s to provide low and high boundaries. Since the numbers wrap, the decode= r must be able to classify an incoming Largest Reference as some= thing that it is supposed to possess (the lower bound, or past) or as a f= uture reference that the header block should be blocked on (the upper bou= nd).

The low bound is the absolute index of the decoder's newest entry in t= he dynamic table minus MaxEntries plus one. A difference of= MaxEntries or more would indicate that the encoder has inse= rted more than MaxEntries into the dynamic table, which is a= n error.

Thus, the window must be at least MaxEntries to cover ent= ries that may already exist. Because the index wraps, we need more room = for the "future" entries -- those on which the header block will block on= . The proposal is to extend the window another MaxEntries a= nd place additional restrictions on the encoder to guarantee that no more= than that number of entries be unacknowledged.

The full range of values can be separated into two broad sections, Pas= t and Future:

  1                                                           =
            MaxAbsIndexId

  |                Past                             |              Future=
             |
  |  Error area     |   Current Dynamic Table     X |                    =
             |

                                                  ^
                                                  |
                                                  /
                                      Latest Entry

(Absolute index value increases from left to right and then wraps = around. The diagram has X =3D MaxEntries for convenience.)<= /em>

After classifying the incoming Largest Reference as Past or F= uture, the decoder either:

  • Marks the header block as blocked and parks the stream (Future);
    • =
  • Processes the header block (Past, with Largest Reference poi= nting to a valid table entry); or
  • Produces an error if the Largest Reference points to an alre= ady-evicted entry.

Reserving MaxEntries for the lower bound and a healthy nu= mber of entries for the future entries makes for rules that are easy to r= eason about. This gives us a theoretical guarantee, so to speak, without= using arguments such as "in practice, entries are larger then the fixed = overhead." A smaller window, I am afraid, will require much more complic= ated rules.

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Note also that while we have two mechanisms for communicating the stat= es of the previous connection (i.e. TLS session ticket and QUIC token), t= he latter cannot be used for this purpose because tokens are not protecte= d by the handshake. An attacker can mount a cut-and-paste attack to bind = a token obtained from a different connection to the victims handshake.

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Okay, that helps a lot. I see where you're coming from.

My perspective was that MaxEntries is an absolute bound on the size of= the table, so if entries are off the end of the table (the "Error area" = in your diagram) the correct interpretation would be that they're in the = future. That always allows some room to insert without acknowledgement, = because of the difference between real entries and the zero-size entries = used to calculate MaxEntries. I don't think it leads to confusion since = you have to reference the table on a stream to have anything to get confu= sed by =F0=9F=98=89<= /g-emoji> and once you've referenced an entry you have a new pin in how f= ar the table can advance without acknowledgement.

In any scheme, you can't reuse a slot until the eviction of t= he item which previously occupied it has been acknowledged. If the windo= w is 2*MaxEntries or more, that's at least a full turnover of the table a= nd the limit on unacknowledged entries automatically implies that require= ment. If the window is MaxEntries, you have to explicitly track that dep= endency which will create the limit on how many unacknowledged entries ca= n exist. I think either is easy enough to reason about, but yours tracks= a single value rather than a ring buffer of references, which is a decid= ed advantage.

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This design relies on the peer always sending a connection ID in its packets so that the endpoint can use the connection ID from a packet to reset the connection. An endpoint that uses this design cannot allow its peers to send -packets with a zero-length destination connection ID. +packets with a zero-length destination connection ID and need to either use +the same connection ID length for all connections or encode the length of +the connection ID such that it can be recovered without state. Yes, a better formulation. Pushed to master. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1640#discussion_r209122935 ----==_mimepart_5b6ce89f230fc_42693fded86d45c41057cd Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2679,7 +2679,9 @@ endpoint receives.
 This design relies on the peer always sending a connection ID in its packets so
 that the endpoint can use the connection ID from a packet to reset the
 connection.  An endpoint that uses this design cannot allow its peers to send
-packets with a zero-length destination connection ID.
+packets with a zero-length destination connection ID and need to either use
+the same connection ID length for all connections or encode the length of
+the connection ID such that it can be recovered without state.

Yes, a better formulation. Pushed to master.

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----==_mimepart_5b6ce8eda6da_f2f3fc5a8cd45bc13324-- From nobody Thu Aug 9 18:25:44 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B69E130E96 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2018 18:25:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.997 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.997 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hiwm6GQQhYsa for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2018 18:25:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from m71-131.mailgun.net (m71-131.mailgun.net [166.78.71.131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 04A14130E31 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2018 18:25:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; v=1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; q=dns/txt; s=mailo; t=1533864338; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type: Mime-Version: Subject: Message-ID: To: Reply-To: From: Date: Sender; bh=joabgOgEXKeO1+99TerRgm9UgS/ohzlLsbQ9QY2cXq4=; b=ikzfd+2ZJMM7bnlln3JPuQeZ/JLn7NF63ATw2VKrE/ZGgG4q35WPHaoqpNAUKlTkKry5EiGo 4yyFYw3+oiDD+xingjQAsizhgQ0Uq1aNQKG3UEMplxCbmjbmG8S0M/QzTkOYMveI8BNqN1xj r8w9nfB3r+bUxoa7uOuRhGdm+2w= X-Mailgun-Sending-Ip: 166.78.71.131 X-Mailgun-Sid: WyJhNzYyYiIsICJxdWljLWlzc3Vlc0BpZXRmLm9yZyIsICI0MGYiXQ== Sender: martin.thomson=gmail.com@github.com Received: from github.com (Unknown [192.30.252.34]) by mxa.mailgun.org with ESMTP id 5b6ce992.7fe1c410dd80-smtp-out-n01; Fri, 10 Aug 2018 01:25:38 -0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2018 18:25:38 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: <5b6ce9922b8d9_4d892ae5602eaf84130ce@hookshot-fe-7191cb1.cp1-iad.github.net.mail> Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] 34bfae: Permit PADDING in Initial. 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@kazuho is right. The token needs to carry its own authentication, but that isn't incorporated into TLS. We should mention that explicitly.

Though you could pack stuff into a token and then authenticate it by adding a hash of that data to the session ticket...

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----==_mimepart_5b6cea9f5668c_3d0c3fd925ad45c489697-- From nobody Thu Aug 9 18:33:17 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6452C130EAF for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2018 18:33:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KEAJeCnjBKDL for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2018 18:33:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EAE60130E96 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2018 18:33:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2018 18:33:14 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533864794; bh=+DQiFYzxoj4l0pdfFhWCiVDmfXOBsEtVrNnQZeqzEJg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=NcKfYT0JBWponSw9gmufUfs7m/Wf7O116yoqm/Xtr/o/JCzLr9R1XQqBtst5Tsi9c FNx/0f9DdKVXQE7SFyl+9S2YABzAKrx1u0TfwRzLjd9HMjsswvad9SC4tYnJaeCoSU yBYdw3UfvL8cZXoMAHACMUvyzFSpkANtomxSwXdM= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] The server shouldn't use a token for much (#1647) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b6ceb5a27aa0_1d983fafde2be620560d5"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2018 01:33:17 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b6ceb5a27aa0_1d983fafde2be620560d5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The token that a server provides in Retry or NEW_TOKEN isn't authenticated. It can be used multiple times and it isn't folded into the handshake. This is an explicit limitation of the design. Neither client nor server can therefore rely on its contents for much. A server can ensure that the token is self-authenticating (by including a MAC or self encrypting it with an AEAD, for instance), but it shouldn't really use the information beyond its immediate purpose: address validation. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1647 ----==_mimepart_5b6ceb5a27aa0_1d983fafde2be620560d5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The token that a server provides in Retry or NEW_TOKEN isn't authenticated. It can be used multiple times and it isn't folded into the handshake. This is an explicit limitation of the design. Neither client nor server can therefore rely on its contents for much. A server can ensure that the token is self-authenticating (by including a MAC or self encrypting it with an AEAD, for instance), but it shouldn't really use the information beyond its immediate purpose: address validation.

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CeilMul can be 1. I don't see any point in entertaining anything less (too complicated) and anything more is bananas: you are creating a header block that is blocked for >1 RTT if that arrives. I think that we should work with 0-based indexing. HPACK having 1-based indexing was awful and we managed to get rid of that by tweaking the opcodes in QPACK. Make sure that you include `floor()` in your calculation of MaxEntries. I like Mike's addendum about 0-RTT. We will need to be careful about that. And implementations will need to test that specially. Of course, for the table to wrap, you need to have evictions in 0-RTT, which won't happen because that takes round trips (at least two, with CeilMul at 1, I believe). If you have round trips in your 0-RTT, something is badly wrong. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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I'm also convinced and would like to see a PR.

CeilMul can be 1. I don't see any point in entertaining anything less= (too complicated) and anything more is bananas: you are creating a heade= r block that is blocked for >1 RTT if that arrives.

I think that we should work with 0-based indexing. HPACK having 1-bas= ed indexing was awful and we managed to get rid of that by tweaking the o= pcodes in QPACK.

Make sure that you include floor() in your calculation of= MaxEntries.

I like Mike's addendum about 0-RTT. We will need to be careful about = that. And implementations will need to test that specially. Of course, = for the table to wrap, you need to have evictions in 0-RTT, which won't h= appen because that takes round trips (at least two, with CeilMul at 1, I = believe). If you have round trips in your 0-RTT, something is badly wron= g.

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Yeah, this is good. Mostly just nits. The one of fully-formed might be a deal-breaker if you don't fix it. > @@ -317,8 +318,14 @@ client abort transmission of a request without error by triggering a QUIC STOP_SENDING with error code HTTP_EARLY_RESPONSE, sending a complete response, and cleanly closing its streams. Clients MUST NOT discard complete responses as a result of having their request terminated abruptly, though clients can always -discard responses at their discretion for other reasons. Servers MUST NOT -abort a response in progress as a result of receiving a solicited RST_STREAM. +discard responses at their discretion for other reasons. + +Changes to the state of a request stream, including receiving a RST_STREAM +(regardless of error code), do not affect the state of the server's response. +Servers MUST NOT abort a response in progress solely due to a state change on +the request stream. However, if the request stream terminates without containing +a fully-formed HTTP request, the server SHOULD abort its response with the error s/fully-formed/usable/ perhaps. A server can often produce a response based purely on header fields. That's the case that we specifically want to support with STOP_SENDING (a 404 on a POST). This implies that the message needs to be complete, which isn't necessary. > @@ -317,8 +318,14 @@ client abort transmission of a request without error by triggering a QUIC STOP_SENDING with error code HTTP_EARLY_RESPONSE, sending a complete response, and cleanly closing its streams. Clients MUST NOT discard complete responses as a result of having their request terminated abruptly, though clients can always -discard responses at their discretion for other reasons. Servers MUST NOT -abort a response in progress as a result of receiving a solicited RST_STREAM. +discard responses at their discretion for other reasons. + +Changes to the state of a request stream, including receiving a RST_STREAM +(regardless of error code), do not affect the state of the server's response. +Servers MUST NOT abort a response in progress solely due to a state change on I don't think that this is a normative requirement on reflection. Maybe just "Servers do not abort a response..." or "Servers are not expected to abort a response..." > @@ -317,8 +318,14 @@ client abort transmission of a request without error by triggering a QUIC STOP_SENDING with error code HTTP_EARLY_RESPONSE, sending a complete response, and cleanly closing its streams. Clients MUST NOT discard complete responses as a result of having their request terminated abruptly, though clients can always -discard responses at their discretion for other reasons. Servers MUST NOT -abort a response in progress as a result of receiving a solicited RST_STREAM. +discard responses at their discretion for other reasons. + +Changes to the state of a request stream, including receiving a RST_STREAM +(regardless of error code), do not affect the state of the server's response. s/(regardless of error code)/with any error code/ -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1643#pullrequestreview-145081955 ----==_mimepart_5b6cefa5ad5fa_18713faf86cbe628427466 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@martinthomson approved this pull request.

Yeah, this is good. Mostly just nits. The one of fully-formed might be a deal-breaker if you don't fix it.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -317,8 +318,14 @@ client abort transmission of a request without error by triggering a QUIC
 STOP_SENDING with error code HTTP_EARLY_RESPONSE, sending a complete response,
 and cleanly closing its streams. Clients MUST NOT discard complete responses as
 a result of having their request terminated abruptly, though clients can always
-discard responses at their discretion for other reasons.  Servers MUST NOT
-abort a response in progress as a result of receiving a solicited RST_STREAM.
+discard responses at their discretion for other reasons.
+
+Changes to the state of a request stream, including receiving a RST_STREAM
+(regardless of error code), do not affect the state of the server's response.
+Servers MUST NOT abort a response in progress solely due to a state change on
+the request stream. However, if the request stream terminates without containing
+a fully-formed HTTP request, the server SHOULD abort its response with the error

s/fully-formed/usable/ perhaps.

A server can often produce a response based purely on header fields. That's the case that we specifically want to support with STOP_SENDING (a 404 on a POST). This implies that the message needs to be complete, which isn't necessary.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -317,8 +318,14 @@ client abort transmission of a request without error by triggering a QUIC
 STOP_SENDING with error code HTTP_EARLY_RESPONSE, sending a complete response,
 and cleanly closing its streams. Clients MUST NOT discard complete responses as
 a result of having their request terminated abruptly, though clients can always
-discard responses at their discretion for other reasons.  Servers MUST NOT
-abort a response in progress as a result of receiving a solicited RST_STREAM.
+discard responses at their discretion for other reasons.
+
+Changes to the state of a request stream, including receiving a RST_STREAM
+(regardless of error code), do not affect the state of the server's response.
+Servers MUST NOT abort a response in progress solely due to a state change on

I don't think that this is a normative requirement on reflection. Maybe just "Servers do not abort a response..." or "Servers are not expected to abort a response..."

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -317,8 +318,14 @@ client abort transmission of a request without error by triggering a QUIC
 STOP_SENDING with error code HTTP_EARLY_RESPONSE, sending a complete response,
 and cleanly closing its streams. Clients MUST NOT discard complete responses as
 a result of having their request terminated abruptly, though clients can always
-discard responses at their discretion for other reasons.  Servers MUST NOT
-abort a response in progress as a result of receiving a solicited RST_STREAM.
+discard responses at their discretion for other reasons.
+
+Changes to the state of a request stream, including receiving a RST_STREAM
+(regardless of error code), do not affect the state of the server's response.

s/(regardless of error code)/with any error code/

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----==_mimepart_5b6cefa5ad5fa_18713faf86cbe628427466-- From nobody Thu Aug 9 19:57:01 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57E34130EA6 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2018 19:56:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3A-PiCk1uEoe for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2018 19:56:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8A3341294D0 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2018 19:56:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2018 19:56:55 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533869815; bh=ScR0A9iNR+EtPZznEerlxWS3GGzqKzOvWTonquz1Fxk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=H1Zyna3V4UwKwte95CO2FSLlwvrgfLfn9nbVAxDjyI6UqrybjTdwn8nGDWvVbvBT9 Y6QpN545jfPv2UOiez87aNwoB4exzUYmDZMyALN3uJnv5su9JXQM7/+mE0Q5mUYBlF ieM4jO79ZUYUf4RMunsrD+i5R5D02me7g+wCnl14= From: Subodh Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Add another condition to idle timeout (#1648) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b6cfef799313_6cc63fd7650d45b8883df"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: siyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2018 02:56:59 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b6cfef799313_6cc63fd7650d45b8883df Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When implementing the new idle timeout, I noticed that there might be one condition missing from this. Previously if you send the first packet in the connection or send the first packet after all your ACKs are received / packets lost, then your idle timeout will not be set. This changes it so that when there are no outstanding packets and you send a packet, it resets the idle timeout. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1648 -- Commit Summary -- * Add another condition to idle timeout -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (11) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1648.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1648.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1648 ----==_mimepart_5b6cfef799313_6cc63fd7650d45b8883df Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

When implementing the new idle timeout, I noticed that there might be one condition missing from this.

Previously if you send the first packet in the connection or send the first packet after all your ACKs are received / packets lost, then your idle timeout will not be set.

This changes it so that when there are no outstanding packets and you send a packet, it resets the idle timeout.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1648

Commit Summary

  • Add another condition to idle timeout

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Is this new condition better than the one @ianswett suggested? That is, should it replace that condition= instead of adding a new one?

If you think about it, the last packet you send before an idle period = is almost always sent with no other packets outstanding. If you receive = an ACK, then you send nothing. Otherwise, you send an ACK after a short = delay, which would generally fit with this new definition.

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I thought about a mention of the security considerations in the TLS draft with this change, but I think that's unnecessary at this point. Closes #1405. Commit: 57c1d360d49a186605329375d5a5fcb6312d04b8 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/57c1d360d49a186605329375d5a5fcb6312d04b8 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-08-01 (Wed, 01 Aug 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Reference security considerations regarding packet protection Commit: 8ef8fee8910afe6e18e938345b73839c7e55debf https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8ef8fee8910afe6e18e938345b73839c7e55debf Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-08-02 (Thu, 02 Aug 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Reword and point to RFC 2406 Commit: 948e7b9784330c7f94cd29d859a778cc510cfbb1 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/948e7b9784330c7f94cd29d859a778cc510cfbb1 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-08-08 (Wed, 08 Aug 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Certainty is about not received Change the text to emphasize that the requirement is that packet numbers have never been accepted before, not that duplicates be detected. Detecting duplicates requires an insane amount of state. Providing assurance that a packet has never been accepted before is easier, and that's all we need. Also qualify with packet number space, because the same packet number can be sent in each of the three packet number spaces. 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----==_mimepart_5b6d2b42bf93c_224d3fd2194d45c424554b-- From nobody Thu Aug 9 23:06:13 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17C64130F23 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2018 23:05:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GWIO7ivDeX1r for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2018 23:05:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9D408130EFF for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2018 23:05:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2018 23:05:54 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533881154; bh=qmQ1jM1GJ4fnH8CvMiyB63jbrt9RdML15xY5wXKZx+Q=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Pg1gzyNEvORu7Aqy2xjc1n//hZ+umpQ4CwHQegdEXaOuHULqrQAIu6XvX5NImyw8g Nsq1YOegIShf4gNLF4YwhK+uNGvj/2eVY4AmtDVUBL8VibMlT7U6SzUQg0AivAMcNS gMwjGdtWJM/I5rd9QIWzx+xv/CIvcsI4sY2zzM98= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Duplicates are dropped (#1624) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b6d2b42b3c12_6f523fa5cf8d45b4353037"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2018 06:05:59 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b6d2b42b3c12_6f523fa5cf8d45b4353037 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Merged #1624 into master. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1624#event-1781753750 ----==_mimepart_5b6d2b42b3c12_6f523fa5cf8d45b4353037 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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If adding such advice, please be specific about encryption is not authentication. Although QUIC implementers would or should now, it could easily be missed by infrastructure operators. Merely stating AEAD or MAC can easily be misread as golang.encrypt(x) should be fine.

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What I was talking about for the applicability statement was the fact that you can use the session ticket to store information (e.g. TP) if you don't want to/can't store them at the server.

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Are we talking about multipath or re-connection (where you start with = a new handshake)? I guess it the latter.

However also for multipath it's a tricky question and while mptcp was = charter to provide a solution that can work without app layer changes it = turns out that you usually need high layer input (because a full mesh bet= ween all available IP address is usually not what you want ;-) ).

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----==_mimepart_5b6d5b7c32872_33e33fcbf60d45c41515e4-- From nobody Fri Aug 10 05:57:54 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3342C130F61 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2018 05:57:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MbSmO0aTH2QZ for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2018 05:57:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0DFB0130E1A for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2018 05:57:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2018 05:57:38 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533905858; bh=+K9eYBI+jmOQY8DWs3CChf5Jw1F4unC8Ki7uIo7VOJo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=wBg6NkrOnpiCAqDLUZ9LzH0PjEMQnoTPJ6so+fEPVsscXb8e9s4J/AKSXuOMnXox7 wsCuy+0PMHO/anpGcB6ANaKDhlndA1/Eqqef1ex/ecf2XtNecE3H9OVh1UoHE80AWV VXU2aInDG7nn6swEPVQjbuw9rUfad9zIyyB/I5hg= From: Dmitri Tikhonov Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QPACK improvement: wrap absolute index values (#1644) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b6d8bc2be3d4_4acd3f8786cbe6283924e2"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: dtikhonov X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2018 12:57:51 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b6d8bc2be3d4_4acd3f8786cbe6283924e2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am glad that you approve the proposal, @MikeBishop and @martinthomson . I will create a PR. I agree: setting `CeilMul` to 1 is the best choice. It gives the index range the property of being exactly twice the size of the maximum size of the dynamic table. This permits some immediate optimizations in the implementation. I also agree that beginning the dynamic table at index 0 is better, as this is how most of us index arrays (C, C++, Go, etc.). Should this be a separate PR -- assuming that @afrind, @krasic, and @MikeBishop agree as well? Also, shall we start the static table with 0 for consistency's sake? The remarks regarding `floor()` and the 0-RTT scenario have been noted. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1644#issuecomment-412074314 ----==_mimepart_5b6d8bc2be3d4_4acd3f8786cbe6283924e2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I am glad that you approve the proposal, @MikeBishop and @martinthom= son . I will create a PR.

I agree: setting CeilMul to 1 is the best choice. It giv= es the index range the property of being exactly twice the size of the ma= ximum size of the dynamic table. This permits some immediate optimizatio= ns in the implementation.

I also agree that beginning the dynamic table at index 0 is better, as= this is how most of us index arrays (C, C++, Go, etc.). Should this be = a separate PR -- assuming that @afrind= , @krasic, and @MikeBishop agree as well? Also, shall we start the stat= ic table with 0 for consistency's sake?

The remarks regarding floor() and the 0-RTT scenario have= been noted.

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1-based indexing shows up wherever a sentinel is needed at 0, basically.= We managed to get rid of the sentinel requirement for table references (t= he static table actually is 0-based in QPACK, there's just nothing in slot 0 until I stop being lazy and get #1355 ready to go). However, for absolute indices, 0= is currently the sentinel for "no dynamic references in this packet." If = we want to go back to using a flag for that, or if you have some other way = to communicate that, there's no reason it ought to be 1-based.

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0 is currently the sentinel for "no dynamic references in this packet.= " If we want to go back to using a flag for that, or if you have some oth= er way to communicate that, there's no reason it ought to be 1-based.

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...which is functionally what we have now, just with different wording to describe it. As far as I'm concerned, that's purely editorial semantics, so whatever @afrind wants is fine.

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I was looking at the spec and it looks like we never explicitly indicated if subsequent Initial packets sent from the client should continue to populate the Token field. by subsequent packets, I mean responses to HRR and ACK only packets.

For the end server, I would assume it doesn't need the token for subsequent Initial packets, since it likely already has the state needed saved. But for a DDoS mitigation device in path, what is its logic supposed to be for these additional Initial packets it sees, assuming it wants to maintain a stateless design?

The DDoS mitigation device cannot really distinguish between the first Initial packet and subsequent ones. If the client always includes the token, the device would be able to statelessly verify it for every Initial packet, but that breaks if the end server also did a Retry. We could instead just assume full length (>1200 bytes) Initial packets are the first ones, and only they need to be validated. The device would just assume shorter packets should be let through untouched. I'm just not sure if that is too brittle an assumption.

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----==_mimepart_5b6dd0b85d6ff_20da3f8952ad45c4261380-- From nobody Fri Aug 10 11:18:04 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED0CB124C04 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2018 11:18:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8pif9uHNY9cp for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2018 11:18:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C663C130E67 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2018 11:17:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2018 11:17:58 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1533925078; bh=+GErWy1Vecif5hqqsJtYWqd5wTKfSgg87THR1ocxz6k=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=YnbfZq5x2S2IJREbOA1WqxR1849uBIX4pepxx8B9HExXFWhGlsv2CISZQTiNOSgH8 vcm8HuO4jQizMjv4o7zChaXAyPYr0iu+Xai2FzNzfgQFkqgQcwsi/hyJzlLkwHA3EQ RcpEXjn6y4GQkZtc8pLZ3q6bSmHkFCf/v2Vrs8fI= From: Dmitri Tikhonov Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Start indexing dynamic QPACK table beginning at zero (#1650) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b6dd6d6a78d9_64173fde6f4be618149481"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: dtikhonov X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2018 18:18:03 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b6dd6d6a78d9_64173fde6f4be618149481 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Based on discussion in [issue #1644](https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1644#issuecomment-411949968). To avoid potential for confusion around zero the raw _Largest Reference_ value and zero the smallest valid absolute index, I introduced a term "specified:" the _Largest Reference_ value is either specified or not. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1650 -- Commit Summary -- * Start indexing dynamic QPACK table beginning at zero -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md (14) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1650.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1650.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1650 ----==_mimepart_5b6dd6d6a78d9_64173fde6f4be618149481 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Based on discussion in issue #1644.

To avoid potential for confusion around zero the raw Largest Reference value and zero the smallest valid absolute index, I introduced a term "specified:" the Largest Reference value is either specified or not.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1650

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  • Start indexing dynamic QPACK table beginning at zero

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You have a good point. The only difference I see in these 2 conditions i= s that the previous one covers the case that you have a few packets outstan= ding and then you receive a packet. However it's probably not that useful s= ince presumably if you have a few packets outstanding, you expect to get fe= edback about them still. So I think that we can actually replace the condit= ion with this new one of outstandingpackets.size =3D 0. It's also much simp= ler to implement as well.

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Some more anecdotal evidence on difficulties mapping browser priorities/heuristics to H2 in a recent Twitter discussion: https://twitter.com/slightlylate/status/1027800719561125888?s=09

I am very in favor of allowing alternative priority schemes.

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@MikeBishop approved this pull request.

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am doing interop tests and self tests with the new crypto stream encoding (draft-13 + PR). I think we have an ordering problem. If the 0-RTT packet containing the EOED message is lost, the QUIC server may receive the Client Finished message before receiving the EOED. If it submits that message to TLS, the exchange will fail, because the EOED was not received. The server should keep the Client Finished message in memory and only submit it after EOED is received. But the server does not really know that without having some inside knowledge of the TLS state -- and one of the goal of the new Crypto Stream design was to avoid requiring that knowledge. Of course, one solution is to explain the problem in details. The server knows that 0-RTT was negotiated, and should refrain from submitting the epoch 2 CS data until the epoch 1 data has been received. Note that this does not work in theory, because there is no FIN mark in the CS frames, so the server does not really know when epoch 1 data is finished, but it will work in practice if the server assumes that epoch 1 data is always sent as a single frame. That's a big wart in the stack. Another solution would be to send the EOED in epoch 2, because then the ordering would be natural. Another solution would be to make sure that the "offset" in the CS frame is computed from the beginning of the session, instead of from the beginning of the epoch. The client can minimize the risk by ensuring that EOED and Finished are always transmitted and retransmitted as coalesced segments. That's easy to do for the initial transmission, but not quite as natural for the retransmission, since different packet contexts will have different timers, sequence numbers, etc. For the details, consider the following typical session exchanges: 1) Basic connection: ``` CHello (250 bytes) => Send CS frame offset 0, length 250 with Initial packet Epoch 0. <-- SHello (160 bytes) => Send CS frame offset 0, length 160 with Initial packet, Epoch 0 <-- server first flight (1500 bytes) => Send CS frame offset 0, length 1000 with Handshake packet, Epoch 2 => Send CS frame offset 1000, length 500 with Handshake packet, Epoch 2 Client Finished => Send CS frame offset 0, length 46 with Handshake packet Epoch 2. ``` 2) 0-RTT connection: ``` CHello (250 bytes) => Send CS frame offset 0, length 250 with Initial packet Epoch 0. <-- SHello (160 bytes) => Send CS frame offset 0, length 160 with Initial packet, Epoch 0 <-- server first flight (1500 bytes) => Send CS frame offset 0, length 1000 with Handshake packet, Epoch 2 => Send CS frame offset 1000, length 500 with Handshake packet, Epoch 2 EOED =>Send CS frame offset 0, length 4 with 0-RTT packet Epoch 1. Client Finished => Send CS frame offset 0, length 46 with Handshake packet Epoch 2. ``` 2) 0-RTT connection with inconvenient packet loss : ``` CHello (250 bytes) => Send CS frame offset 0, length 250 with Initial packet Epoch 0. <-- SHello (160 bytes) => Send CS frame offset 0, length 160 with Initial packet, Epoch 0 <-- server first flight (1500 bytes) => Send CS frame offset 0, length 1000 with Handshake packet, Epoch 2 => Send CS frame offset 1000, length 500 with Handshake packet, Epoch 2 Packet loss: EOED =>Send CS frame offset 0, length 4 with 0-RTT packet Epoch 1. Client Finished => Send CS frame offset 0, length 46 with Handshake packet Epoch 2. Retransmit: EOED =>Send CS frame offset 0, length 4 with 0-RTT packet Epoch 1. ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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I am doing interop tests and self tests with the new crypto stream encoding (draft-13 + PR). I think we have an ordering problem. If the 0-RTT packet containing the EOED message is lost, the QUIC server may receive the Client Finished message before receiving the EOED. If it submits that message to TLS, the exchange will fail, because the EOED was not received. The server should keep the Client Finished message in memory and only submit it after EOED is received. But the server does not really know that without having some inside knowledge of the TLS state -- and one of the goal of the new Crypto Stream design was to avoid requiring that knowledge.

Of course, one solution is to explain the problem in details. The server knows that 0-RTT was negotiated, and should refrain from submitting the epoch 2 CS data until the epoch 1 data has been received. Note that this does not work in theory, because there is no FIN mark in the CS frames, so the server does not really know when epoch 1 data is finished, but it will work in practice if the server assumes that epoch 1 data is always sent as a single frame. That's a big wart in the stack.

Another solution would be to send the EOED in epoch 2, because then the ordering would be natural.

Another solution would be to make sure that the "offset" in the CS frame is computed from the beginning of the session, instead of from the beginning of the epoch.

The client can minimize the risk by ensuring that EOED and Finished are always transmitted and retransmitted as coalesced segments. That's easy to do for the initial transmission, but not quite as natural for the retransmission, since different packet contexts will have different timers, sequence numbers, etc.

For the details, consider the following typical session exchanges:

  1. Basic connection:
CHello (250 bytes) => Send CS frame offset 0, length 250 with Initial packet Epoch 0.
       <-- SHello (160 bytes) 
               => Send CS frame offset 0, length 160 with Initial packet, Epoch 0
       <-- server first flight (1500 bytes)
               => Send CS frame offset 0, length 1000 with Handshake packet, Epoch 2
               => Send CS frame offset 1000, length 500 with Handshake packet, Epoch 2
Client Finished =>  Send CS frame offset 0, length 46 with Handshake packet Epoch 2.
<process everything in order and life is good >
  1. 0-RTT connection:
CHello (250 bytes) => Send CS frame offset 0, length 250 with Initial packet Epoch 0.
       <-- SHello (160 bytes) 
               => Send CS frame offset 0, length 160 with Initial packet, Epoch 0
       <-- server first flight (1500 bytes)
               => Send CS frame offset 0, length 1000 with Handshake packet, Epoch 2
               => Send CS frame offset 1000, length 500 with Handshake packet, Epoch 2
EOED =>Send CS frame offset 0, length 4 with 0-RTT packet Epoch 1.
Client Finished =>  Send CS frame offset 0, length 46 with Handshake packet Epoch 2.
<process everything in order and life is good >
  1. 0-RTT connection with inconvenient packet loss :
CHello (250 bytes) => Send CS frame offset 0, length 250 with Initial packet Epoch 0.
       <-- SHello (160 bytes) 
               => Send CS frame offset 0, length 160 with Initial packet, Epoch 0
       <-- server first flight (1500 bytes)
               => Send CS frame offset 0, length 1000 with Handshake packet, Epoch 2
               => Send CS frame offset 1000, length 500 with Handshake packet, Epoch 2
Packet loss: EOED =>Send CS frame offset 0, length 4 with 0-RTT packet Epoch 1.
Client Finished =>  Send CS frame offset 0, length 46 with Handshake packet Epoch 2.
Retransmit: EOED =>Send CS frame offset 0, length 4 with 0-RTT packet Epoch 1.
<process everything in order and the exchange fails >

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Could this be considered as an error of the TLS stack supplying the epoch 2 read key too early? I mean that we might argue that the TLS stack should provide the key after processing EOED.

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Yes, I suppose that would help. Maybe worth writing in an appendix to the Quic/TLS draft.

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----==_mimepart_5b6fa594c63b9_763b3fc0f52be62011758d1-- From nobody Sun Aug 12 06:03:48 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A806130DD4 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2018 06:03:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lvyb1UGX4Vwf for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2018 06:03:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 080ED130DC7 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2018 06:03:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2018 06:03:41 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534079021; bh=OUvpd7a/QaKrdFhe0fH50YQDXoIRha6IvPMNFB//J7c=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=eDSXuy9PTgbtfiYn6ZORCblFZcSVPnuiRBSd2vqDej4mUbDJ3fmwg8cT5Q0F/xlPL yEjGUu03fdfqWN5Ee6Kyuj9qOy3AFQlJi/uc5HFeXDJ97nmyHCqzZG6+OGnrT8zkQE 7Pui6m4+4DLLUPfkHPCWlUzG+iFS2T8/Q2FrZFZc= From: ekr Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Ordering of crypto stream packets (#1651) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b70302d5e79_22d33fa19e6d45b4377df"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ekr X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2018 13:03:46 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b70302d5e79_22d33fa19e6d45b4377df Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 8:12 PM, Christian Huitema wrote: > Yes, I suppose that would help. Maybe worth writing in an appendix to the > Quic/TLS draft. > This isn't the only time this can happen. Imagine that the server sends SFIN, NST and you get reordering. The general fix to this is for the implementation to maintain a single read level for the TLS stack at a given time. The spec tries to tell you to do this in S 4.1.1. https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-tls-13# section-4.1.1 At any given time, the TLS stack at an endpoint will have a current sending encryption level and receiving encryption level. Each encryption level is associated with a different flow of bytes, which is reliably transmitted to the peer in CRYPTO frames. When TLS provides handshake octets to be sent, they are appended to the current flow and any packet that includes the CRYPTO frame is protected using keys from the corresponding encryption level. When an endpoint receives a QUIC packet containing a CRYPTO frame from the network, it proceeds as follows: o If the packet was in the TLS receiving encryption level, sequence the data into the input flow as usual. As with STREAM frames, the offset is used to find the proper location in the data sequence. If the result of this process is that new data is available, then it is delivered to TLS in order. o If the packet is from a previously installed encryption level, it MUST not contain data which extends past the end of previously received data in that flow. Implementations MUST treat any violations of this requirement as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION. o If the packet is from a new encryption level, it is saved for later processing by TLS. Once TLS moves to receiving from this encryption level, saved data can be provided. When providing data from any new encryption level to TLS, if there is data from a previous encryption level that TLS has not consumed, this MUST be treated as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION. Note that this is not a matter of what keys you have, but rather of what you are prepared to pass to the TLS stack. Maybe this text isn't clear enough, though? -Ekr -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1651#issuecomment-412341564 ----==_mimepart_5b70302d5e79_22d33fa19e6d45b4377df Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 8:12 PM, Christian Huitema <notifications@gith= ub.com
> wrote:

> Yes, I suppose that would help. Maybe worth writing in an appendix t= o the
> Quic/TLS draft.
>
This isn't the only time this can happen. Imagine that the server sen= ds
SFIN, NST and you get reordering.

The general fix to this is for the implementation to maintain a single re= ad
level for the TLS stack at a given time. The spec tries to tell you to do=
this in S 4.1.1. https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-tls-13#
section-4.1.1

At any given time, the TLS stack at an endpoint will have a current sending encryption level and receiving encryption level. Each
encryption level is associated with a different flow of bytes, which is reliably transmitted to the peer in CRYPTO frames. When TLS
provides handshake octets to be sent, they are appended to the
current flow and any packet that includes the CRYPTO frame is
protected using keys from the corresponding encryption level.

When an endpoint receives a QUIC packet containing a CRYPTO frame
from the network, it proceeds as follows:

o If the packet was in the TLS receiving encryption level, sequence the data into the input flow as usual. As with STREAM frames, the<= br> offset is used to find the proper location in the data sequence. If the result of this process is that new data is available, then it is delivered to TLS in order.

o If the packet is from a previously installed encryption level, it MUST not contain data which extends past the end of previously
received data in that flow. Implementations MUST treat any
violations of this requirement as a connection error of type
PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.

o If the packet is from a new encryption level, it is saved for
later processing by TLS. Once TLS moves to receiving from this
= encryption level, saved data can be provided. When providing data<= br> from any new encryption level to TLS, if there is data from a
previous encryption level that TLS has not consumed, this MUST be treated as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.

Note that this is not a matter of what keys you have, but rather of what<= br> you are prepared to pass to the TLS stack.

Maybe this text isn't clear enough, though?

-Ekr

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= ----==_mimepart_5b70302d5e79_22d33fa19e6d45b4377df-- From nobody Sun Aug 12 11:03:03 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F35BE130E18 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2018 11:03:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZfJoeM5a0eTW for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2018 11:03:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 71812126CC7 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2018 11:03:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2018 11:02:59 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534096979; bh=hX/gOuP8W818YTcsrSWF6r8yxL4lc1XPe2UzCc3m9VE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=HQHjOx/IiqaxVZz9YNRvz0GouBWwoQFqNkdkbfNyQRIlR7g8bq6vWf5j4rmsvzASO fLeYpoQmxoFQtjlxZFEZ7Vjo2o7W1UtFS/ANxuO4Ur4ZcVbY3y8kNvtM/hjpLEodac wTWFiCIULV5gtpj288OE4Lwt+Ydx4SnFHJXPa+FE= From: Christian Huitema Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Ordering of crypto stream packets (#1651) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b7076536a4de_a0f3ffdb22d45c01383664"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: huitema X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2018 18:03:02 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b7076536a4de_a0f3ffdb22d45c01383664 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think the text mixes two issues, receiving packets and delivering to the TLS stack. In my implementations attempts, I made two mistakes: 1) I initially thought that the offset in the CS frames was computed just like the stream0 offset, i.e. continuous from initial to finished. 2) Once I realized that there was independent offsets starting at zero in each epoch, I made the mistake of delivering packets to the stack as soon as they were received. I think there are a series of concepts that need to be specified in the spec: * Separation of the exchanges in a series of epochs, each with each own encryption keys. The spec does explain that well. * How to map messages to the CS frames, computing the offset within an epoch. This is currently left unsaid. * How to ensure that TLS packets are delivered in the right order to the TLS stack. I find the current text a bit terse, and indeed I got it wrong initially. I see on the chat a proposal to enforce delivery sequence by TLS refraining from providing an epoch's encryption key before the TLS stack is ready to absorb input for that epoch. This event would also indicate to the QUIC stack that the previous epoch is finished, that no more data is expected there, and that arrival of any new such data should be treated as a protocol violation. We may debate whether overloading the provision of decryption keys is the right mechanism. Passing the keys as soon as they are available allow the stack to receive and acknowledge packets immediately, which is more efficient as long as the data is delivered to TLS in the right order. But clearly we need a mechanism by which the TLS stack signals when an epoch should be considered closed. And I think that the spec should at least present the issue. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1651#issuecomment-412360629 ----==_mimepart_5b7076536a4de_a0f3ffdb22d45c01383664 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I think the text mixes two issues, receiving packets and delivering to= the TLS stack. In my implementations attempts, I made two mistakes:

  1. I initially thought that the offset in the CS frames was computed just= like the stream0 offset, i.e. continuous from initial to finished.

  2. Once I realized that there was independent offsets starting at zero in= each epoch, I made the mistake of delivering packets to the stack as soo= n as they were received.

I think there are a series of concepts that need to be specified in th= e spec:

  • Separation of the exchanges in a series of epochs, each with each own = encryption keys. The spec does explain that well.

  • How to map messages to the CS frames, computing the offset within an e= poch. This is currently left unsaid.

  • How to ensure that TLS packets are delivered in the right order to the= TLS stack. I find the current text a bit terse, and indeed I got it wron= g initially.

I see on the chat a proposal to enforce delivery sequence by TLS refra= ining from providing an epoch's encryption key before the TLS stack is re= ady to absorb input for that epoch. This event would also indicate to the= QUIC stack that the previous epoch is finished, that no more data is exp= ected there, and that arrival of any new such data should be treated as a= protocol violation.

We may debate whether overloading the provision of decryption keys is = the right mechanism. Passing the keys as soon as they are available allow= the stack to receive and acknowledge packets immediately, which is more = efficient as long as the data is delivered to TLS in the right order. But= clearly we need a mechanism by which the TLS stack signals when an epoch= should be considered closed. And I think that the spec should at least p= resent the issue.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b7076536a4de_a0f3ffdb22d45c01383664-- From nobody Sun Aug 12 11:26:05 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14831126CC7 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2018 11:26:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7UsfYB7ImofH for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2018 11:26:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 20C60130E13 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2018 11:26:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2018 11:26:01 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534098361; bh=F0bWt9sC6+jeMvcC3Iub0n7EY7ZNwz2GTvxgAXf8w/4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ky5ff87piyOp+JK9C3BnOYX3vVTv/JB4oqbPXneUbyr5fUfswjh5erHOXhdWqF5tK 9cOLyFR3plm1Xx+DVHDq4yqgm+/JRc5RpAouqcj4ZRG3phOxIM9ZCivW+plidkZTi0 v0/aagQWG+FfyNCZev5h/X3igTptoUI0ORjslO0Q= From: Christian Huitema Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Ordering of crypto stream packets (#1651) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b707bb9757ec_59d83fa19e6d45b41927172"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: huitema X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2018 18:26:04 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b707bb9757ec_59d83fa19e6d45b41927172 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There is an issue with not providing the epoch 2 (handshake) decryption key before the epoch 1 data has been received. Suppose that the server flight is very long. It will need to be carried over several packets, and the client will need to send acknowledgements and maybe challenge responses. The server's Quic stack will need to process these acknowledgements. It can only do so if it has access to the epoch 2 decryption key. Yet the client will normally only send the EOED after the server flight has been received. I think that overloading decryption key provision to mean "end of previous epochs" does not work well. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1651#issuecomment-412362219 ----==_mimepart_5b707bb9757ec_59d83fa19e6d45b41927172 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

There is an issue with not providing the epoch 2 (handshake) decryptio= n key before the epoch 1 data has been received. Suppose that the server = flight is very long. It will need to be carried over several packets, and= the client will need to send acknowledgements and maybe challenge respon= ses. The server's Quic stack will need to process these acknowledgements.= It can only do so if it has access to the epoch 2 decryption key. Yet th= e client will normally only send the EOED after the server flight has bee= n received.

I think that overloading decryption key provision to mean "end of prev= ious epochs" does not work well.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b707bb9757ec_59d83fa19e6d45b41927172-- From nobody Sun Aug 12 16:00:52 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 627EB130E37 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2018 16:00:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rbivZoQo7oYq for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2018 16:00:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B7822129619 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2018 16:00:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2018 16:00:47 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534114847; bh=qPf7LqnC39STlD0IscwyZ0BiibFXEsdJRgi8F+Ciypg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Zrl2/IvuMzpRr18yvzzqfKVMwSM17U+N4JbxETxb4772M1lvbBTCEjX5bFfpNTnQ5 3NLw7Z0B/ve4ttCtHmgNyCs8IH6coYpBVx7o8hXofbk9+SRoAVTlPM3BTrKA1pP6x6 I80mB3Ns1qHE+dienO8IYLmbdvI+skl+wd9fjjFs= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Ordering of crypto stream packets (#1651) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b70bc1f764a2_6f973f88040be62466076"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2018 23:00:51 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b70bc1f764a2_6f973f88040be62466076 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Now, I agree with @huitema. Let me retract my previous comment. A client is expected to: * acknowledge server's epoch 2 packets (that could span across multiple RTs if the certificate is huge) * send EOED in epoch 1 after receiving server's entire epoch 2 packets The fact in turn means that the server needs to activate the epoch 2 read key before receiving EOED. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1651#issuecomment-412377804 ----==_mimepart_5b70bc1f764a2_6f973f88040be62466076 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Now, I agree with @huitema. Let me= retract my previous comment. A client is expected to:

  • acknowledge server's epoch 2 packets (that could span across multiple= RTs if the certificate is huge)
  • send EOED in epoch 1 after receiving server's entire epoch 2 packets<= /li>

The fact in turn means that the server needs to activate the epoch 2 r= ead key before receiving EOED.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b70bc1f764a2_6f973f88040be62466076-- From nobody Sun Aug 12 17:27:50 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F2991292AD for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2018 17:27:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MbZgFjjufGPo for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2018 17:27:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F386F12426A for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2018 17:27:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2018 17:27:45 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534120065; bh=NmAdqXArAcgMBrlNCm+IZiv41dZXhOcZnbjl2T6PZkw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=J7UAKWoxwJfynpfbiC5DEZU35Jfv/auyc3JstEWVx1ncLk/EbFgOPSQTey/HfzMZc 6+LvARP2AUmmSoTVPGlJX2UpJHO5MqOU158zh5IljJwccilcs56fPSOBVgFMKYwKAk nPWZfh+MjC/KLE+uws0GbWU20dIdDnLk8Z6ecELo= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QPACK improvement: wrap absolute index values (#1644) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b70d08165e5c_31a23fe3810d45b8821093"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 00:27:48 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b70d08165e5c_31a23fe3810d45b8821093 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm completely comfortable with largest reference starting at 1. Because I use `len(table)` there; that is, the number of entries in the table. In other words, "you need N entries available before you can use this header block"; as opposed to "the index of the last entry referenced in this header block is N". It's better than trying to work out how to signal the special value. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1644#issuecomment-412382372 ----==_mimepart_5b70d08165e5c_31a23fe3810d45b8821093 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I'm completely comfortable with largest reference starting at 1. Beca= use I use len(table) there; that is, the number of entries i= n the table. In other words, "you need N entries available before you ca= n use this header block"; as opposed to "the index of the last entry refe= renced in this header block is N". It's better than trying to work out h= ow to signal the special value.

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Closes #1648.

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----==_mimepart_5b70d6b67bdc5_b6f3fe7bc6d45b4109016-- From nobody Sun Aug 12 17:54:35 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3BE4130E5A for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2018 17:54:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XONtCCIN2VFi for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2018 17:54:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E4AF12426A for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2018 17:54:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2018 17:54:26 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534121666; bh=/5q2+vjzoHhd9tTRFyMTJbN8MLU1i1KV+bhy+KoTCBA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=zLZ8XxsRToArhH3q/UBZ3QARndoi53tEejBiEiPuVl8EBlEs9cpHxPyRNKeMsPTsE pPuojTiyETj6jGmWg4Qt9RRiBFyffeb1ljiQQIxsjrZoWWaodeNbxRPDQ9QS6f705P 8FsYAjSY9PnbV5bAqqkOASXroYhWXZ0eJTPTdQR8= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Add another condition to idle timeout (#1648) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b70d6c2498ce_51fc3fb4772be6283666"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 00:54:30 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b70d6c2498ce_51fc3fb4772be6283666 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What about outstanding ACK-only packets? Those won't be declared lost. Let's say that the last thing that happened was that an endpoint receives a packet containing something useful (e.g., STREAM). It sends a packet with an ACK, then goes idle. That ACK-only packet is technically still outstanding. See #1652. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1648#issuecomment-412384143 ----==_mimepart_5b70d6c2498ce_51fc3fb4772be6283666 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

What about outstanding ACK-only packets? Those won't be declared lost= . Let's say that the last thing that happened was that an endpoint recei= ves a packet containing something useful (e.g., STREAM). It sends a pack= et with an ACK, then goes idle. That ACK-only packet is technically stil= l outstanding. See #1652.

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I don't think that the largest reference needs to be described this way, as I said in #1644 (comment).

Rather than describe things this way, describe this as the size of the table at the time of reference. That's a name change, I guess, but functionally equivalent.

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the server needs to activate the epoch 2 read key before receiving EOE= D

In this problem case, the server accepts 0-RTT, sends its handshake me= ssages (at epoch 2), but finds that it has to send more than 3 datagrams = because it has a huge certificate. At this point, it is reading from epo= ch 1 and the TLS stack will continue to do so until it gets EOED. The cl= ient won't send that because it hasn't got the entirety of the server han= dshake yet. The handshake deadlocks.

The fix is to make epoch 2 keys available to QUIC, but to retain the s= ame constraints on what epoch is used for data passed to TLS. But now th= e TLS handshake doesn't have a clear transition point, because key availa= bility doesn't also mean that those keys are ready to be used.

This makes me want to reconsider my patches for NSS, where I let ekr c= onvince me that the two transitions could be coupled. The fix there is s= imple enough (I can refuse to accept epoch 2 data until epoch 1 is done),= but it will be more annoying to use.

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The fix there is simple enough (I can refuse to accept epoch 2 data until epoch 1 is done), but it will be more annoying to use. The situation is the same for picotls. I think we have three options: a) expose current read epoch from the TLS stack, and let the QUIC stack buffer handshake messages that have a higher epoch I think that is the suggested approach in the TLS draft, as @ekr has pointed out. The draft states that "if the packet is from a new encryption level, it is saved for later processing by TLS. Once TLS moves to receiving from this encryption level, saved data can be provided". The approach is simple on the TLS stack side, but might be complex from QUIC stack's viewpoint. b) let the TLS stack buffer handshake messages until it receives EOED The approach is simple from QUIC stack's viewpoint, but requires a new buffering layer. c) in the TLS stack, manage the receipt of EOED using a separate flag The TLS stack will substitute EOED and process handshake messages as they arrive, but delay the changes of the states being delivered to the QUIC stack until it actually receives EOED. The approach is simple from QUIC stack's viewpoint and also does not require additional buffering; however, the logic in the TLS stack will be complex. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1651#issuecomment-412393837 ----==_mimepart_5b70edc75d66b_27a53fb38d0be6243525ea Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@martinthomson

This makes me want to reconsider my patches for NSS, where I let ekr c= onvince me that the two transitions could be coupled. The fix there is si= mple enough (I can refuse to accept epoch 2 data until epoch 1 is done), = but it will be more annoying to use.

The situation is the same for picotls.

I think we have three options:

a) expose current read epoch from the TLS stack, and let the QUIC stac= k buffer handshake messages that have a higher epoch

I think that is the suggested approach in the TLS draft, as @ekr has pointed out. The draft states that "if the = packet is from a new encryption level, it is saved for later processing b= y TLS. Once TLS moves to receiving from this encryption level, saved data= can be provided".

The approach is simple on the TLS stack side, but might be complex fro= m QUIC stack's viewpoint.

b) let the TLS stack buffer handshake messages until it receives EOED<= /p>

The approach is simple from QUIC stack's viewpoint, but requires a new= buffering layer.

c) in the TLS stack, manage the receipt of EOED using a separate flag<= /p>

The TLS stack will substitute EOED and process handshake messages as t= hey arrive, but delay the changes of the states being delivered to the QU= IC stack until it actually receives EOED. The approach is simple from QUI= C stack's viewpoint and also does not require additional buffering; howev= er, the logic in the TLS stack will be complex.

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Editors, please check these. We might not be done with -14, but this is a start.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1653

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  • Transport and recovery changes
  • HTTP and QPACK changes

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----==_mimepart_5b70eef2ab5b5_62283fbb8bed45b4493712-- From nobody Sun Aug 12 19:55:30 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 728CB130E67 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2018 19:55:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6L2XXb32obTf for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2018 19:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E5316130E65 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2018 19:55:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2018 19:55:25 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534128925; bh=+tvqfd3dueMCxRfJrqdekjMITB49T7OOy3TU1mF/G7w=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=SsXOzRl9J6Yn6XO0v6F6by+Chrw2L/nvYXCnQV+mOAsHY79t67xRpx8WlqypiP7y7 xvgCIIt3Xcnj1EE3cxcv6ro2WZexlw++lTPGxk3jKnOsY1GYjNxrwMIhWxbA2B2uvm 5KDnLo15ezV90RKdF9HQJxoIpOQ7GZfKPIIMWvWc= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Ordering of crypto stream packets (#1651) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b70f31d4d006_14363f9da86be62827913d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 02:55:28 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b70f31d4d006_14363f9da86be62827913d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For NSS, the best plan seems to be to let the QUIC stack feed any data it has into the TLS stack, starting from the data that is oldest. Separate calls for data from different epochs will allow TLS to reject data for that epoch, which QUIC can then hold onto. Any time QUIC has data for any epoch, it starts at the earliest for which it has unconsumed data and feeds that into TLS. The only trick is that you have three return codes: 1. I got that, thanks. 2. Sorry, I'm not ready for that yet. 3. Explode! -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1651#issuecomment-412396245 ----==_mimepart_5b70f31d4d006_14363f9da86be62827913d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

For NSS, the best plan seems to be to let the QUIC stack feed any data= it has into the TLS stack, starting from the data that is oldest. Separ= ate calls for data from different epochs will allow TLS to reject data fo= r that epoch, which QUIC can then hold onto. Any time QUIC has data for = any epoch, it starts at the earliest for which it has unconsumed data and= feeds that into TLS.

The only trick is that you have three return codes:

  1. I got that, thanks.
  2. Sorry, I'm not ready for that yet.
  3. Explode!

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= ----==_mimepart_5b70f31d4d006_14363f9da86be62827913d-- From nobody Sun Aug 12 20:06:56 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60E4E130E0C for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2018 20:06:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28LZnEsnZAkw for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2018 20:06:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B2A76130D7A for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2018 20:06:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2018 20:06:52 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534129612; bh=FJ/4IbzRLGc7AmIFfqvzTL3Rqo6IJKOU+ic+fGg5MxQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=xNYpZz0uqXvcjZhS4mxxtKtx4/BaYosmXOwxPAOmD4+7r1Gwkl+KOxzty5+1YyDAd P3bHVuISRAzZDfRQB04v1oYQtmfhmu5PJt6FmgtC87Ezd0+QnILmNCJvrwhPnBA5ok YwzW0y7QJqNcFduDzOW4rcsur451SJXc5vb8CS+s= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Ordering of crypto stream packets (#1651) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b70f5cc7683_68cf3fb0e52d45bc2375cb"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 03:06:54 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b70f5cc7683_68cf3fb0e52d45bc2375cb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Maybe I am thinking too much, but IMO the restriction with that approach is that it works well only when the QUIC stack provides a "peek" API to access CRYPTO data in the receive buffer. Without a "peek" API, the QUIC stack will be required to introduce a new buffer that stores data rejected as not ready by the TLS stack. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1651#issuecomment-412397396 ----==_mimepart_5b70f5cc7683_68cf3fb0e52d45bc2375cb Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Maybe I am thinking too much, but IMO the restriction with that approa= ch is that it works well only when the QUIC stack provides a "peek" API t= o access CRYPTO data in the receive buffer. Without a "peek" API, the QUI= C stack will be required to introduce a new buffer that stores data rejec= ted as not ready by the TLS stack.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b70f5cc7683_68cf3fb0e52d45bc2375cb-- From nobody Sun Aug 12 20:07:22 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E0CA130E0C for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2018 20:07:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CZ-jKEXkdG9K for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2018 20:07:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3ED10130D7A for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2018 20:07:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2018 20:07:18 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534129638; bh=eCEHn6GmGMQ2p2XfBXKV4cEAqhuFrjDpnsfGTKIocMo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=i/b15Bj7E7kqGYe13nQao5EXyjIVokeYSLYCMHtTR8dEt8kedFdSv7hSv/vHpVSGb H2xYPG+HQt+kmL4/CLdYmN8+2ARblqnRAeyqZ2Np6Xge4W6CsIFOvfhInsR6DuTXol 2b+L5VrqFeg6pwgWoNUrwcQlQ7RkAAtqnYX2ZzyE= From: ekr Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Ordering of crypto stream packets (#1651) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b70f5e686d05_41013fb1ae2d45c028248c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ekr X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 03:07:20 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b70f5e686d05_41013fb1ae2d45c028248c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't think this needs to be specified in the specification. As far as implementations go, Minq already buffers the data, so option (a) is very straightforward. I just need to send out the key as soon as it's ready rather than when it's installed, and have a separate install call. I'm not sure I agree with Martin's assessment of what's best for NSS, but as above, I don't think this is an issue for the spec. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1651#issuecomment-412397443 ----==_mimepart_5b70f5e686d05_41013fb1ae2d45c028248c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I don't think this needs to be specified in the specification.

As far as implementations go, Minq already buffers the data, so optio= n (a) is very straightforward. I just need to send out the key as soon as= it's ready rather than when it's installed, and have a separate install = call. I'm not sure I agree with Martin's assessment of what's best for NS= S, but as above, I don't think this is an issue for the spec.

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What @ekr says. There is no need to update the draft. Though I think it is beneficial to have a discussion about the API that TLS stacks will provide (because having one style of API design will lead to less confusion).

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FWIW, my assumption has been that the token field will be empty for the subsequent Initial packets. IIRC, we have thought that it is possible to split Initial into two packet types (i.e. client's first flight and other obfuscated ones) even though we decided not to. The reason such split has been considered possible is because we have assumed that the token is only required for the client's first flight. My understanding is that DDoS mitigation devices are required to remember the 5-tuple (or the CIDs) that are permitted to flow though, so that other types of packets (i.e., 0-rtt, handshake, 1-rtt) can be exchanged. Then, I do not see a reason why we need to include tokens in subsequent Initial packets. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1649#issuecomment-412400638 ----==_mimepart_5b70fcc0402f6_68cf3fb0e52d45bc304878 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

FWIW, my assumption has been that the token field will be empty for th= e subsequent Initial packets.

IIRC, we have thought that it is possible to split Initial into two pa= cket types (i.e. client's first flight and other obfuscated ones) even th= ough we decided not to. The reason such split has been considered possibl= e is because we have assumed that the token is only required for the clie= nt's first flight.

My understanding is that DDoS mitigation devices are required to remem= ber the 5-tuple (or the CIDs) that are permitted to flow though, so that = other types of packets (i.e., 0-rtt, handshake, 1-rtt) can be exchanged. = Then, I do not see a reason why we need to include tokens in subsequent I= nitial packets.

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@martinthomson why would the h= andshake deadlock? Wouldn=E2=80=99t the server receive acks if it=E2=80=99= s handshake packets which would let it egress more to complete the handsh= ake

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@siyengar If the sender does not have the handshake decrypt key, it cannot get to data, and also cannot get to the PN. No way then to handle ACKs.

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----==_mimepart_5b710d95b3447_1a873fe621ad45c01086937-- From nobody Sun Aug 12 21:51:13 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97D9E130E6C for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2018 21:51:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ReOnuJhnHRtf for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2018 21:51:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 55F04129385 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2018 21:51:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2018 21:51:09 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534135869; bh=kYzLFAjQg7I5HulcQqzY+qCp0eBf6Co8dnG5io9vnas=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=anMumdEFzkglyqdr3flyULbktajbSYvD0rBDkGKVC/BbQMO5SfZX6UzhgTqTMix4i nptbHesMMgDbtGSh4dNjJYXoTAiZxYuX9rhf0ZRFy1wGK6WIDJy3H6JJKvnafoVwiQ FyXc/Ly/MVsi6bu7ePKrEYslG0PvgTr93hKu/qT4= From: Christian Huitema Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Ordering of crypto stream packets (#1651) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b710e3d98a23_76063fc9464be62471362a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: huitema X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 04:51:12 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b710e3d98a23_76063fc9464be62471362a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Given that several of us started implementations and made some wrong assumptions, one could think that the spec could add some clarification. Yes, this is a local implementation issue, and we don't want to standardize the details of the API between QUIC and TLS. But having an appendix about implementation would make sense. And there is already a fair bit of text in this thread. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1651#issuecomment-412407778 ----==_mimepart_5b710e3d98a23_76063fc9464be62471362a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Given that several of us started implementations and made some wrong a= ssumptions, one could think that the spec could add some clarification. Y= es, this is a local implementation issue, and we don't want to standardiz= e the details of the API between QUIC and TLS. But having an appendix abo= ut implementation would make sense. And there is already a fair bit of te= xt in this thread.

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The only problem we're aware of is at the server when it consumes 0-RTT, but it's serious enough that some clarification is in order. This makes it clear that there are two events of interest, then expands on the particular problem scenario. 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The only problem we're aware of is at the server when it consumes 0-RTT, but it's serious enough that some clarification is in order. This makes it clear that there are two events of interest, then expands on the particular problem scenario. Closes #1651. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1654 -- Commit Summary -- * Separate key/secret availability from usage -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md (28) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1654.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1654.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1654 ----==_mimepart_5b712179acbaf_17833fa61d0d45b42251cd Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

As we discovered, conflating these two signals creates problems. The
only problem we're aware of is at the server when it consumes 0-RTT, but
it's serious enough that some clarification is in order.

This makes it clear that there are two events of interest, then expands
on the particular problem scenario.

Closes #1651.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1654

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  • Separate key/secret availability from usage

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----==_mimepart_5b712179acbaf_17833fa61d0d45b42251cd-- From nobody Mon Aug 13 00:36:35 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45CBC130E64 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2018 00:36:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3zp3upzJhfzA for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2018 00:36:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 65E451294D0 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2018 00:36:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 00:36:30 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534145790; bh=MLtWu96o/9WWvobsRdmDyEJ/XaTOyCIVmeqXqxjQYds=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=YmxNeKXq2pP0b86dhnq1r9augYP3wXkRI6Qi+qldNtEifn4DXjpi7dWZ6e/uGfxmb fNiZWxZ+jK2/KwzbeO6FrAf1NmgSK3nvXZOJJpswTU7Oe+ZKm8owkB+odiRGVISyz2 0Z00QTlBoz3gov8WMjz9kk77Oe7fLtoGjlpNRkbY= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Separate key/secret availability from usage (#1654) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b7134febc4c_44903f8eacad45c444316a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 07:36:33 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b7134febc4c_44903f8eacad45c444316a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mikkelfj commented on this pull request. > -CRYPTO frame in Handshake encryption) may send STREAM data (in 1-RTT -encryption). However, if the Finished is lost, the client would have to -retransmit the Finished, in which case it would use Handshake encryption. - +Although TLS only uses one encryption level at a time, QUIC may use more than +one level. For instance, after sending its Finished message (using a CRYPTO +frame at the Handshake encryption level) an endpoint can send STREAM data (in +1-RTT encryption). If the Finished message is lost, the endpoint uses the +Handshake encryption level to retransmit the lost message. + +In particular, server implementations need to be able to read packets at the +Handshake encryption level before the final TLS handshake message at the 0-RTT +encryption level (EndOfEarlyData) is available. Though the content of CRYPTO +frames at the Handshake encryption level cannot be forwarded to TLS before +EndOfEarlyData is processed, the client could send ACK frames that the server +needs to process in order to detect lost Handshake packets. I am not sufficiently familiar with the handshake process to really have an opinion here. But while I understand most of the text, the last paragraph seems very dense, -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1654#pullrequestreview-145541125 ----==_mimepart_5b7134febc4c_44903f8eacad45c444316a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@mikkelfj commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> -CRYPTO frame in Handshake encryption) may send STREAM data (in 1-RTT
-encryption). However, if the Finished is lost, the client would have to
-retransmit the Finished, in which case it would use Handshake encryption.
-
+Although TLS only uses one encryption level at a time, QUIC may use more than
+one level. For instance, after sending its Finished message (using a CRYPTO
+frame at the Handshake encryption level) an endpoint can send STREAM data (in
+1-RTT encryption). If the Finished message is lost, the endpoint uses the
+Handshake encryption level to retransmit the lost message.
+
+In particular, server implementations need to be able to read packets at the
+Handshake encryption level before the final TLS handshake message at the 0-RTT
+encryption level (EndOfEarlyData) is available.  Though the content of CRYPTO
+frames at the Handshake encryption level cannot be forwarded to TLS before
+EndOfEarlyData is processed, the client could send ACK frames that the server
+needs to process in order to detect lost Handshake packets.

I am not sufficiently familiar with the handshake process to really have an opinion here. But while I understand most of the text, the last paragraph seems very dense,

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----==_mimepart_5b7134febc4c_44903f8eacad45c444316a-- From nobody Mon Aug 13 05:36:12 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8517130EEC for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2018 05:36:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fqN3XdT5PF6C for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2018 05:36:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 21EBE128CF3 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2018 05:36:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 05:36:07 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534163767; bh=rn+ng6/KSs3eaG0t6yraAfV5xOOF2CmfziriWVWsll0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=W3GhP15IspGqO6H8ebSoQNsEIgbwL4sU2evM/uPnNS+NmORAgFIw/WMxVSWHJv4lt C+D7m6djKs57/EZsLOlC+mM/pIOLeI6o973ilrMpBkHJT+BzpyHzsS3a7JYRvMh80F 8J+r8PJbxryGYqdSOFCL+LwdtwbZ0O4t4AstNHlE= From: Dmitri Tikhonov Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QPACK improvement: wrap absolute index values (#1644) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b717b37bcdb3_48723fb3a9cbe62411212e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: dtikhonov X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 12:36:11 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b717b37bcdb3_48723fb3a9cbe62411212e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > In other words, "you need N entries available before you can use this header block"; as opposed to "the index of the last entry referenced in this header block is N". I don't see how this could work. Imagine a full table -- then, on average, one insertion results in one eviction. The number of entries stays about the same. This number does not tell you anything useful. You need the actual index value. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1644#issuecomment-412503086 ----==_mimepart_5b717b37bcdb3_48723fb3a9cbe62411212e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

In other words, "you need N entries available before you can use this = header block"; as opposed to "the index of the last entry referenced in t= his header block is N".

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= ----==_mimepart_5b717b37bcdb3_48723fb3a9cbe62411212e-- From nobody Mon Aug 13 07:59:31 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF583130E0A for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2018 07:59:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IKXoQ92_VGyx for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2018 07:59:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o4.sgmail.github.com (o4.sgmail.github.com [192.254.112.99]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B665F130DDE for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2018 07:59:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=FU6RaBB0+Ex+5QH52f897sUcL8U=; b=w1eh0pWQaRLXqWLL FtWo4qNX+kJiVTpAaXLRMj5VAXmzYHqE+AI7yWwobPJpdN8Z4nYJYyun/kidKgHy SJvEL8gqQL62a9zAaTjuMfurtaVfV0cYuyeKfbxA3yUWCPTq++LCM7RcF5XZxb8/ E5aNr7LjPOXuW3UwnduzaQJXdu8= Received: by filter0235p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0235p1iad2-2261-5B719CCE-31 2018-08-13 14:59:26.487526153 +0000 UTC m=+490979.494250428 Received: from github-lowworker-dc5ea3e.cp1-iad.github.net (unknown [192.30.252.45]) by ismtpd0003p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id zB41xzH5RKCgA6W5AWlgzg for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2018 14:59:26.381 +0000 (UTC) Received: from github.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by github-lowworker-dc5ea3e.cp1-iad.github.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A71D260A28 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2018 07:59:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 14:59:26 +0000 (UTC) From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Subsequent Initial Packets with Token Field (#1649) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b719cce582e4_27e3fdad84d45c085827"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak2+JdGq1owr4psSGz2zmjW/QVtmLTEV78a3x3 olZ4imKepuuIjA0ekY0HFp5K7dq/FCxGZI+8ZTyjACZ7c/jnQR30BHFg6v/no/J4RAz+uYb/L5ORHa WvoY/2Jn0dakdY/vZ4Es88M5qIJhNcCM8ndppC3z47QlU6PgNtRlDEdcS6jOY/9gaoTPwgk9DEzVVd 8= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 14:59:30 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b719cce582e4_27e3fdad84d45c085827 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @kazuho there is currently no such requirement that a DDoS mitigation device be stateful. My goal is to have a design where it could be stateless. @martinthomson I think the easiest solution would be to do what @kazuho mentioned: separate out the first client Initial packet from all subsequent Initial packets. A different packet type would do the trick. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1649#issuecomment-412548573 ----==_mimepart_5b719cce582e4_27e3fdad84d45c085827 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@kazuho there is currently no such requirem= ent that a DDoS mitigation device be stateful. My goal is to have a design = where it could be stateless.

@martinthomson I think the easiest s= olution would be to do what @kazuho mentione= d: separate out the first client Initial packet from all subsequent Initial= packets. A different packet type would do the trick.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b719cce582e4_27e3fdad84d45c085827-- From nobody Mon Aug 13 08:07:29 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FBD7130F3C for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2018 08:07:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CYOfWyugosoF for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2018 08:07:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 45CBC130F40 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2018 08:07:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 08:07:25 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534172845; bh=POQB9OGlPqde26KIzbye7BJPe83tPhz0tSHgnvcU4Cg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=TU2I0v+BNslaCf/eTYxej0QzUio86Tc6OJrurfIKHBlujIRaeUCAuGjQkYkCMsSVl L+2Th24r5ZV9frXsicBcvTv6Rzn4YidcnkDT9SZWlGCdRL4KWuPVp2VqvLDnJU9wDe PJmLMQcLEE1l2Egh5pUGUtEELImgWKrM9CvEwVgA= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Subsequent Initial Packets with Token Field (#1649) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b719ead10bcc_4be3f861c6be61c105392"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 15:07:28 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b719ead10bcc_4be3f861c6be61c105392 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @nibanks > there is currently no such requirement that a DDoS mitigation device be stateful. My goal is to have a design where it could be stateless. Doesn't the mitigation device maintain state so that it could forward handshake, 0-rtt, 1-rtt packets that has certain properties (e.g. 5-tuple, CID)? Also, IIUC, when multiple retries are involved, the device that issued the first Retry cannot verify the token contained in the second Retry (i.e. the one contained in the third Initial packet sent by the client). So I would assume that a DDoS mitigation device (typically the first device to issue a Retry) will be required to create a state for the 5-tuple when it receives the second Initial, and keep forwarding the packets between the client and the server. Am I missing something? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1649#issuecomment-412551467 ----==_mimepart_5b719ead10bcc_4be3f861c6be61c105392 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@nibanks

there is currently no such requirement that a DDoS mitigation device b= e stateful. My goal is to have a design where it could be stateless.

Doesn't the mitigation device maintain state so that it could forward = handshake, 0-rtt, 1-rtt packets that has certain properties (e.g. 5-tuple= , CID)?

Also, IIUC, when multiple retries are involved, the device that issued= the first Retry cannot verify the token contained in the second Retry (i= .e. the one contained in the third Initial packet sent by the client).

So I would assume that a DDoS mitigation device (typically the first d= evice to issue a Retry) will be required to create a state for the 5-tupl= e when it receives the second Initial, and keep forwarding the packets be= tween the client and the server.

Am I missing something?

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= ----==_mimepart_5b719ead10bcc_4be3f861c6be61c105392-- From nobody Mon Aug 13 08:17:02 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A903A130F3E for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2018 08:17:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UW8umLaqBbUj for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2018 08:17:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 19374130934 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2018 08:17:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 08:16:59 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534173419; bh=ke5KmqFq0F9xfLRnRY4j7eujYkJbzQ0WXN+kTQhy94U=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=r9CzWjgl1hXrN9e2ljxjt2vM0DaXoPSgfYtmX4D9XNBAQFyyHEdfbmIfLAAzXMMMg GLC3ClilgdTSbAXyvznuMbOMcgg2ykniGsW0bWumBNVWYSvN6UYIaES9spRDgu2NGX RCcauwqM/1a95ifJx6kdarYNDmaCSza8ByB8dCew= From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Subsequent Initial Packets with Token Field (#1649) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b71a0eb3b6c5_3ae23fc3738be61c169150"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 15:17:02 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b71a0eb3b6c5_3ae23fc3738be61c169150 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @kazuho I guess you're right. I got so focused on the subsequent Initial packets I forgot about the multiple Retry case. The DDoS mitigation device cannot be completely stateless because it cannot rely on its own Token always being in the client's Initial packet, in the multiple Retry case. As for how forwarding could work for all other non-Initial packets, the simplest design would be to just always let them through, and let the end server drop them if they don't correspond to an existing connection. With that type of design, the DDoS mitigation device just prevents new connections from being created, and ignores all other traffic. All that being said, then should we be a bit more clear in the spec and say that only the first Initial packets (not sure how best to word that) need carry the server's Token? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1649#issuecomment-412554882 ----==_mimepart_5b71a0eb3b6c5_3ae23fc3738be61c169150 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@kazuho I guess you're right. I got s= o focused on the subsequent Initial packets I forgot about the multiple R= etry case. The DDoS mitigation device cannot be completely stateless beca= use it cannot rely on its own Token always being in the client's Initial = packet, in the multiple Retry case.

As for how forwarding could work for all other non-Initial packets, th= e simplest design would be to just always let them through, and let the e= nd server drop them if they don't correspond to an existing connection. W= ith that type of design, the DDoS mitigation device just prevents new con= nections from being created, and ignores all other traffic.

All that being said, then should we be a bit more clear in the spec an= d say that only the first Initial packets (not sure how best to word that= ) need carry the server's Token?

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All that being said, then should we be a bit more clear in the spec and = say that only the first Initial packets (not sure how best to word that) ne= ed carry the server's Token?

I agree that that is preferable. Also, we should better talk about the d= atagram size. There is no need to pad subsequent Initial packets up to MTU = size.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b71a7c842f62_a433fdb7f8be620612c9-- From nobody Mon Aug 13 09:01:05 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16BE2130DD3 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2018 09:01:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UlMJxPoVtREq for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2018 09:01:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 22D1D128CF2 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2018 09:01:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 09:01:00 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534176060; bh=xiIKDaO3ftzOkWaCNPKdcfI4Eo4O4xaRDFxza+KTm1Q=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Bn2o7AWK8OhH37n4EfaOPsL2bUqbPhYIHihWFh+Bc1ASa70d/KIbVCPUwBzQovcyT f1BBDU+SbjHQDpO+pJ/iicv9nZEVIf4a31mTcGtj+se+sLluhwEmPFT0r5YCQNixMT tny4WuX9SshaVxUM+YEScgWPJvO76WzW1/NO60XY= From: Udip Pant Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Change packet types (#1655) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b71ab3cf18c_1c193f9d6cabe624179821"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: udippant X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 16:01:03 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b71ab3cf18c_1c193f9d6cabe624179821 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For initial and 0-rtt packets, we're planning on using the 5-tuple in our L4 load balancer, and the connid for other packet types. To do this we need to look at the packet types as to whether or not we should look at the connid. However with the current packet format, we need an extra shift instruction to process whether or not we need to look at the connid. A simple reorganization of the packet types as: Initial 0x7F 0-RTT Protected 0x7E Retry 0x7D Handshake 0x7C will help us determine whether or not to use connid with one instruction : ( pkt_type ^ FF ) > 1 In environments, such as bpf program, number of instructions matter. Further, this provides an easy win, and intuitive separation of packet types with and without server chosen connection id. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1655 ----==_mimepart_5b71ab3cf18c_1c193f9d6cabe624179821 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

For initial and 0-rtt packets, we're planning on using the 5-tuple in our L4 load balancer, and the connid for other packet types. To do this we need to look at the packet types as to whether or not we should look at the connid. However with the current packet format, we need an extra shift instruction to process whether or not we need to look at the connid. A simple reorganization of the packet types as:

Initial 0x7F
0-RTT Protected 0x7E
Retry 0x7D
Handshake 0x7C

will help us determine whether or not to use connid with one instruction : ( pkt_type ^ FF ) > 1

In environments, such as bpf program, number of instructions matter. Further, this provides an easy win, and intuitive separation of packet types with and without server chosen connection id.

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I think this text is better than the previous one. I suggest adding a paragraph about the need for reordering before submission to TLS. It is somewhat redundant, and I would understand that editors decide to do without. But I think it is important to hammer this point, as it is an important part of the design. > -CRYPTO frame in Handshake encryption) may send STREAM data (in 1-RTT -encryption). However, if the Finished is lost, the client would have to -retransmit the Finished, in which case it would use Handshake encryption. - +Although TLS only uses one encryption level at a time, QUIC may use more than +one level. For instance, after sending its Finished message (using a CRYPTO +frame at the Handshake encryption level) an endpoint can send STREAM data (in +1-RTT encryption). If the Finished message is lost, the endpoint uses the +Handshake encryption level to retransmit the lost message. + +In particular, server implementations need to be able to read packets at the +Handshake encryption level before the final TLS handshake message at the 0-RTT +encryption level (EndOfEarlyData) is available. Though the content of CRYPTO +frames at the Handshake encryption level cannot be forwarded to TLS before +EndOfEarlyData is processed, the client could send ACK frames that the server +needs to process in order to detect lost Handshake packets. Looks good. You may or may not want to hammer the point about ordering. Something like this: Proper operation of TLS requires that handshake octets be delivered to the TLS receiver in the order in which they were produced by the sender but QUIC can only guarantee ordering within an encryption level. Due to possible reordering and losses it is possible that encryption level 1 messages sent in 0-RTT packets arrive after level 2 messages sent in Handshake packets. QUIC receivers need to make sure that handshake messages are only submitted to TLS when TLS is ready to accept messages at that encryption level. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1654#pullrequestreview-145746786 ----==_mimepart_5b71bb16967f2_64203f953bebe61849348c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@huitema approved this pull request.

I think this text is better than the previous one.

I suggest adding a paragraph about the need for reordering before submission to TLS. It is somewhat redundant, and I would understand that editors decide to do without. But I think it is important to hammer this point, as it is an important part of the design.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> -CRYPTO frame in Handshake encryption) may send STREAM data (in 1-RTT
-encryption). However, if the Finished is lost, the client would have to
-retransmit the Finished, in which case it would use Handshake encryption.
-
+Although TLS only uses one encryption level at a time, QUIC may use more than
+one level. For instance, after sending its Finished message (using a CRYPTO
+frame at the Handshake encryption level) an endpoint can send STREAM data (in
+1-RTT encryption). If the Finished message is lost, the endpoint uses the
+Handshake encryption level to retransmit the lost message.
+
+In particular, server implementations need to be able to read packets at the
+Handshake encryption level before the final TLS handshake message at the 0-RTT
+encryption level (EndOfEarlyData) is available.  Though the content of CRYPTO
+frames at the Handshake encryption level cannot be forwarded to TLS before
+EndOfEarlyData is processed, the client could send ACK frames that the server
+needs to process in order to detect lost Handshake packets.

Looks good. You may or may not want to hammer the point about ordering. Something like this:

Proper operation of TLS requires that handshake octets be delivered to the TLS receiver in the order in which they were produced by the sender but QUIC can only guarantee ordering within an encryption level. Due to possible reordering and losses it is possible that encryption level 1 messages sent in 0-RTT packets arrive after level 2 messages sent in Handshake packets. QUIC receivers need to make sure that handshake messages are only submitted to TLS when TLS is ready to accept messages at that encryption level.

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"indexes" occurs once while "indices" occurs six times, reconcile. Sm= all grammar fixes. Position vertical arrow to center of block. Update f= igure captions (Post-Base Index only applies to Request Streams). Capita= lize "Largest Reference" as it is done dozens of places elsewhere. Fix o= bsolete reference to "frames" on control streams.

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----==_mimepart_5b71c0793a0fd_690a3f9be5ad45c41241fd-- From nobody Mon Aug 13 10:49:55 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79D9C130E01 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2018 10:49:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mJp8xEtKEeQK for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2018 10:49:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AB8AF130E08 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2018 10:49:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 10:49:49 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534182589; bh=AY4qgd4gTHQtUHluO2cxyUHbRV3o9IUalMZhOopQd6I=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=QtOICsHOX0OnAJVvGu/YGkaDMsQAtRjIJf6/KHZtAD4vGJnmiNwx1qalV9oU2j6/7 N0XMmya7p0sBZBKwwByrMxW8YTJxLSx/HD5wmTNqjvkfZlTubFscPxfK1+rcxUsjs+ rrfH/WXGLXxAMsfXRu/eCUxGQurWAzCUDuXW0y0M= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Minor editorial fixes. (#1656) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b71c4bd97ee5_14703f8e0fad45bc6775f"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 17:49:54 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b71c4bd97ee5_14703f8e0fad45bc6775f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MikeBishop approved this pull request. All good clean-ups. Thanks! > @@ -261,7 +261,7 @@ immediately. A stream becomes unblocked when the greatest absolute index in the dynamic table becomes greater than or equal to the Largest Reference for all header blocks the decoder has started reading from the stream. If a decoder encounters a header block where the actual largest reference is not equal to the -largest reference declared in the prefix, it MAY treat this as a stream error of +Largest Reference declared in the prefix, it MAY treat this as a stream error of I could go either way on this one.... I tend to view it similar to when `-transport` capitalizes "[Cc]onnection ID" -- "Largest Reference" is the field itself, while "the largest reference" means the greatest index referenced by the frame. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1656#pullrequestreview-145763666 ----==_mimepart_5b71c4bd97ee5_14703f8e0fad45bc6775f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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All good clean-ups. Thanks!

In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -261,7 +261,7 @@ immediately. A stream becomes unblocked when the greatest absolute index in the
 dynamic table becomes greater than or equal to the Largest Reference for all
 header blocks the decoder has started reading from the stream.  If a decoder
 encounters a header block where the actual largest reference is not equal to the
-largest reference declared in the prefix, it MAY treat this as a stream error of
+Largest Reference declared in the prefix, it MAY treat this as a stream error of

I could go either way on this one.... I tend to view it similar to when -transport capitalizes "[Cc]onnection ID" -- "Largest Reference" is the field itself, while "the largest reference" means the greatest index referenced by the frame.

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Resolves #1644.

Includes #1650 and #1642.

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  • Start indexing dynamic QPACK table beginning at zero
  • Initial table size is the maximum permitted when table is first usable
  • Some Martin tweaks
  • Limit range of the absolute index: wrap the values
  • Recalculate MaxEntries should the server increase max table size

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I think that it may make sense to rename Largest Reference to Latest Reference. This would remove the now-ambiguous term "larger."

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The number counts insertions without regard for evictions that might h= appen. It's no different in practice to the current number, but is simpl= y moving the goalpost.

The other way of thinking of this is as follows:

0 -----
   header: value
1 -----
   other: 1
2 -----   <<< in 0-based indexing, this refers to the start of :=
host
   :host: example.com
3 -----   <<< but with our indexing scheme we work backwards
          <<<  so it makes sense to identify the end of the entr=
y instead

That's consistent.

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I was considering a similar change, for completely different reasons. Let's keep this as a reminder.

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Or "Table State" to match the "Table State Synchronize" instruction.

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Thank you @martinthomson . Happy to submit a P.R. if you'd prefer so.

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The reason this is up for review is the discussion about the first octet. The working group mailing list has a discussion on that. I'd prefer to wait for that.

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@martinthomson commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> -CRYPTO frame in Handshake encryption) may send STREAM data (in 1-RTT
-encryption). However, if the Finished is lost, the client would have to
-retransmit the Finished, in which case it would use Handshake encryption.
-
+Although TLS only uses one encryption level at a time, QUIC may use more than
+one level. For instance, after sending its Finished message (using a CRYPTO
+frame at the Handshake encryption level) an endpoint can send STREAM data (in
+1-RTT encryption). If the Finished message is lost, the endpoint uses the
+Handshake encryption level to retransmit the lost message.
+
+In particular, server implementations need to be able to read packets at the
+Handshake encryption level before the final TLS handshake message at the 0-RTT
+encryption level (EndOfEarlyData) is available.  Though the content of CRYPTO
+frames at the Handshake encryption level cannot be forwarded to TLS before
+EndOfEarlyData is processed, the client could send ACK frames that the server
+needs to process in order to detect lost Handshake packets.

Encryption levels are strictly ordered, so isn't it possible that QUIC can guarantee ordering in what it delivers to TLS?

The point you are making is well taken though; packets might arrive out of order and QUIC is responsible for ensuring that they are delivered to TLS in the correct order.

Take a look at the text I've added. I think that hammers the point home hard enough.

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@huitema commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> -CRYPTO frame in Handshake encryption) may send STREAM data (in 1-RTT
-encryption). However, if the Finished is lost, the client would have to
-retransmit the Finished, in which case it would use Handshake encryption.
-
+Although TLS only uses one encryption level at a time, QUIC may use more than
+one level. For instance, after sending its Finished message (using a CRYPTO
+frame at the Handshake encryption level) an endpoint can send STREAM data (in
+1-RTT encryption). If the Finished message is lost, the endpoint uses the
+Handshake encryption level to retransmit the lost message.
+
+In particular, server implementations need to be able to read packets at the
+Handshake encryption level before the final TLS handshake message at the 0-RTT
+encryption level (EndOfEarlyData) is available.  Though the content of CRYPTO
+frames at the Handshake encryption level cannot be forwarded to TLS before
+EndOfEarlyData is processed, the client could send ACK frames that the server
+needs to process in order to detect lost Handshake packets.

There is no requirement that QUIC guarantees ordering. In fact, it will deliver data from different streams in different order than they were received -- this is essential to avoid head of line blocking. The only guaranteed ordering is within a stream, or within a crypto stream.

Your paragraph develops the need for QUIC to handle the different Crypto contexts in parallel. That's fine, but in my mind that's not the same requirement as delivery of crypto-stream in specified order. In fact, just ordering them is not sufficient, because the QUIC implementation does not actually know how long a particular crypto stream is. There is no end mark. So how does it logically deduce that level N is now done, and that it is OK to proceed with N+1?

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@kazuho commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> -CRYPTO frame in Handshake encryption) may send STREAM data (in 1-RTT
-encryption). However, if the Finished is lost, the client would have to
-retransmit the Finished, in which case it would use Handshake encryption.
-
+Although TLS only uses one encryption level at a time, QUIC may use more than
+one level. For instance, after sending its Finished message (using a CRYPTO
+frame at the Handshake encryption level) an endpoint can send STREAM data (in
+1-RTT encryption). If the Finished message is lost, the endpoint uses the
+Handshake encryption level to retransmit the lost message.
+
+In particular, server implementations need to be able to read packets at the
+Handshake encryption level before the final TLS handshake message at the 0-RTT
+encryption level (EndOfEarlyData) is available.  Though the content of CRYPTO
+frames at the Handshake encryption level cannot be forwarded to TLS before
+EndOfEarlyData is processed, the client could send ACK frames that the server
+needs to process in order to detect lost Handshake packets.

@huitema

In fact, just ordering them is not sufficient, because the QUIC implementation does not actually know how long a particular crypto stream is. There is no end mark. So how does it logically deduce that level N is now done, and that it is OK to proceed with N+1?

IIUC our assumption is that the TLS stack will somehow notify the QUIC stack what the current read epoch is, and that the QUIC stack will only supply the contents of CRYPTO frames received in that epoch.

In my view, the following sentence in the PR implies that.

Though the content of CRYPTO frames at the Handshake encryption level cannot be forwarded to TLS before EndOfEarlyData is processed, the client could send ACK frames that the server needs to process in order to detect lost Handshake packets.

Or is it the case that you are uncomfortable with the text dealing with how to handle TLS messages?

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@huitema commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> -CRYPTO frame in Handshake encryption) may send STREAM data (in 1-RTT
-encryption). However, if the Finished is lost, the client would have to
-retransmit the Finished, in which case it would use Handshake encryption.
-
+Although TLS only uses one encryption level at a time, QUIC may use more than
+one level. For instance, after sending its Finished message (using a CRYPTO
+frame at the Handshake encryption level) an endpoint can send STREAM data (in
+1-RTT encryption). If the Finished message is lost, the endpoint uses the
+Handshake encryption level to retransmit the lost message.
+
+In particular, server implementations need to be able to read packets at the
+Handshake encryption level before the final TLS handshake message at the 0-RTT
+encryption level (EndOfEarlyData) is available.  Though the content of CRYPTO
+frames at the Handshake encryption level cannot be forwarded to TLS before
+EndOfEarlyData is processed, the client could send ACK frames that the server
+needs to process in order to detect lost Handshake packets.

I may be suffering from excess of caution, after spending some time debugging the out of order EOED issue. But yes, the explicit mention of out of order EOED and need to reorder is there, so I guess I the text is fine.

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@nibanks commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> -CRYPTO frame in Handshake encryption) may send STREAM data (in 1-RTT
-encryption). However, if the Finished is lost, the client would have to
-retransmit the Finished, in which case it would use Handshake encryption.
-
+Although TLS only uses one encryption level at a time, QUIC may use more than
+one level. For instance, after sending its Finished message (using a CRYPTO
+frame at the Handshake encryption level) an endpoint can send STREAM data (in
+1-RTT encryption). If the Finished message is lost, the endpoint uses the
+Handshake encryption level to retransmit the lost message.
+
+In particular, server implementations need to be able to read packets at the
+Handshake encryption level before the final TLS handshake message at the 0-RTT
+encryption level (EndOfEarlyData) is available.  Though the content of CRYPTO
+frames at the Handshake encryption level cannot be forwarded to TLS before
+EndOfEarlyData is processed, the client could send ACK frames that the server
+needs to process in order to detect lost Handshake packets.

One of the reasons I opened #1592 was to make it easier to know when one part of the CRYPTO stream ended and another started. It also ordering easier and more explicit, IMO. But everyone seemed to disagree at the time.

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@kazuho commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> -CRYPTO frame in Handshake encryption) may send STREAM data (in 1-RTT
-encryption). However, if the Finished is lost, the client would have to
-retransmit the Finished, in which case it would use Handshake encryption.
-
+Although TLS only uses one encryption level at a time, QUIC may use more than
+one level. For instance, after sending its Finished message (using a CRYPTO
+frame at the Handshake encryption level) an endpoint can send STREAM data (in
+1-RTT encryption). If the Finished message is lost, the endpoint uses the
+Handshake encryption level to retransmit the lost message.
+
+In particular, server implementations need to be able to read packets at the
+Handshake encryption level before the final TLS handshake message at the 0-RTT
+encryption level (EndOfEarlyData) is available.  Though the content of CRYPTO
+frames at the Handshake encryption level cannot be forwarded to TLS before
+EndOfEarlyData is processed, the client could send ACK frames that the server
+needs to process in order to detect lost Handshake packets.

@nibanks FWIW, I still prefer the current approach above #1592.

By having different crypto streams at every epoch, TLS stacks can check if the TLS messages were delivered using the correct epoch. The verification is crucial for TLS.

If we allow single "stream" (i.e. flow of octets) span across multiple epochs, it becomes much harder to have that kind of enforcement in the API design, and I would assume that at least some of the QUIC implementations will fail to implement correct verification (consider the fact that most of us failed to notice NSTs sent using a cleartext packet).

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----==_mimepart_5b723ba7a2a6a_5e903f9a988be62067666-- From nobody Mon Aug 13 19:56:33 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43F80130EF6 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2018 19:56:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1DCSnoLUYLVk for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2018 19:56:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 83CA8130E90 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2018 19:56:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 19:56:27 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534215387; bh=zMqY7xBssvUC9D71MFtsCMDRRqDIumjCwosH6ruywFI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=kQFlAGNH7yeZa+7Xzn5OTzunRMbHNg6pNXay/ijIYFUCSLmMqoepJzlkYyG7rC8B3 OSqVW8gdqAWj44iaRE//00d+enYrxC7yOlHT2W3QDkFC5EPn+0awHR4YIhOmsJBaQC BLjN9+9+cpnJzl972AP1aIC6Vx+BUtTpe15+J6VQ= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QPACK: wrap absolute index values (#1657) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b7244dbbd580_63a03ffd0a2d45b4605af"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2018 02:56:32 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b7244dbbd580_63a03ffd0a2d45b4605af Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson commented on this pull request. The structure around the description of largest reference would seem to need more work. I'd like to get that groundwork in place first. > Each entry possesses both an absolute index which is fixed for the lifetime of that entry and a relative index which changes over time based on the context of -the reference. The first entry inserted has an absolute index of "1"; indices -increase sequentially with each insertion. +the reference. + +The absolute index takes on the values in the range + +~~~ + [ 0, MaxEntries * 2 - 1 ] Inclusive, I presume. > @@ -251,14 +299,33 @@ Because QUIC does not guarantee order between data on different streams, a header block might reference an entry in the dynamic table that has not yet been received. -Each header block contains a Largest Reference which identifies the table state -necessary for decoding. If the greatest absolute index in the dynamic table is -less than the value of the Largest Reference, the stream is considered -"blocked." While blocked, header field data should remain in the blocked -stream's flow control window. When the Largest Reference is zero, the frame -contains no references to the dynamic table and can always be processed -immediately. A stream becomes unblocked when the greatest absolute index in the -dynamic table becomes greater than or equal to the Largest Reference for all +Each header block contains a Largest Reference field which identifies the +table state necessary for decoding. + +When the Largest Reference value is not specified, the frame contains no You need to explain what "not specified" means. Here, that's an encoded value of 0. > -necessary for decoding. If the greatest absolute index in the dynamic table is -less than the value of the Largest Reference, the stream is considered -"blocked." While blocked, header field data should remain in the blocked -stream's flow control window. When the Largest Reference is zero, the frame -contains no references to the dynamic table and can always be processed -immediately. A stream becomes unblocked when the greatest absolute index in the -dynamic table becomes greater than or equal to the Largest Reference for all +Each header block contains a Largest Reference field which identifies the +table state necessary for decoding. + +When the Largest Reference value is not specified, the frame contains no +references to the dynamic table and can always be processed immediately. + +When it is specified, the Largest Reference value is compared with +the absolute index value of the next entry to be inserted into the +dynamic table. That entry's absolute index value divides the absolute This explanation, relying on the "next entry to be inserted" is awkward. As I suggested, if you count the total number of inserts, you get something easier to manage: ``` 0 ----- First: Insert (i.e., Index 8) 1 ----- ... Index: 1 8 ----- Index: 0 9 ----- << Base offset = 2 (or -2, I forget which this is). Post-Base: 0 10 ----- Post-Base: 1 11 ----- << Table state = 11 This: Can't be referenced 12 ----- ``` Then you can say that the signaled table state and the decoder's view of the table state might differ, but only by less than `MaxEntries`. That means that if `SignaledTableState%(MaxEntries*2)` differs from `LocalTableState` by more than MaxEntries, then it needs to be wrapped to get the full table state. Don't worry about describing these in terms of absolute values. I think that's easier than having the variables be modulo `2MaxEntries`. > @@ -312,6 +379,11 @@ for example because the encoder or the decoder have chosen not to risk blocked streams, the decoder sends a Table State Synchronize instruction (see {{table-state-synchronize}}). +### Insertion Throttling + +The encoder MUST NOT create -- either via insertion or duplication -- more +than "MaxEntries" unacknowledged dynamic table entries. This text prevents an encoder from sending the insertions, but it doesn't prevent it from attempting to reference them. I would start by saying that an encoder *cannot* reference dynamic table entries that have an absolute index more than MaxEntries greater than the largest acknowledged value. I would prefer to lean more strongly on different advice. If we say that an encoder MUST NOT reference a table state that it has not sent at least once we get a stronger guarantee. The text here is only correct in that it prevents the table from extending more than MaxEntries into the future, but it doesn't also cover the point regarding references to those entries. I'd also like to get more context here. Why? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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The structure around the description of largest reference would seem to need more work. I'd like to get that groundwork in place first.

In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

>  
 Each entry possesses both an absolute index which is fixed for the lifetime of
 that entry and a relative index which changes over time based on the context of
-the reference. The first entry inserted has an absolute index of "1"; indices
-increase sequentially with each insertion.
+the reference.
+
+The absolute index takes on the values in the range
+
+~~~
+   [ 0, MaxEntries * 2 - 1 ]

Inclusive, I presume.

In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -251,14 +299,33 @@ Because QUIC does not guarantee order between data on different streams, a
 header block might reference an entry in the dynamic table that has not yet been
 received.
 
-Each header block contains a Largest Reference which identifies the table state
-necessary for decoding. If the greatest absolute index in the dynamic table is
-less than the value of the Largest Reference, the stream is considered
-"blocked."  While blocked, header field data should remain in the blocked
-stream's flow control window.  When the Largest Reference is zero, the frame
-contains no references to the dynamic table and can always be processed
-immediately. A stream becomes unblocked when the greatest absolute index in the
-dynamic table becomes greater than or equal to the Largest Reference for all
+Each header block contains a Largest Reference field which identifies the
+table state necessary for decoding.
+
+When the Largest Reference value is not specified, the frame contains no

You need to explain what "not specified" means. Here, that's an encoded value of 0.

In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> -necessary for decoding. If the greatest absolute index in the dynamic table is
-less than the value of the Largest Reference, the stream is considered
-"blocked."  While blocked, header field data should remain in the blocked
-stream's flow control window.  When the Largest Reference is zero, the frame
-contains no references to the dynamic table and can always be processed
-immediately. A stream becomes unblocked when the greatest absolute index in the
-dynamic table becomes greater than or equal to the Largest Reference for all
+Each header block contains a Largest Reference field which identifies the
+table state necessary for decoding.
+
+When the Largest Reference value is not specified, the frame contains no
+references to the dynamic table and can always be processed immediately.
+
+When it is specified, the Largest Reference value is compared with
+the absolute index value of the next entry to be inserted into the
+dynamic table.  That entry's absolute index value divides the absolute

This explanation, relying on the "next entry to be inserted" is awkward. As I suggested, if you count the total number of inserts, you get something easier to manage:

0 -----
  First: Insert (i.e., Index 8)
1 -----
...
  Index: 1
8 -----
  Index: 0
9 -----  << Base offset = 2 (or -2, I forget which this is).
  Post-Base: 0
10 -----
  Post-Base: 1
11 -----  << Table state = 11
  This: Can't be referenced
12 -----

Then you can say that the signaled table state and the decoder's view of the table state might differ, but only by less than MaxEntries. That means that if SignaledTableState%(MaxEntries*2) differs from LocalTableState by more than MaxEntries, then it needs to be wrapped to get the full table state.

Don't worry about describing these in terms of absolute values. I think that's easier than having the variables be modulo 2MaxEntries.

In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -312,6 +379,11 @@ for example because the encoder or the decoder have chosen not to risk blocked
 streams, the decoder sends a Table State Synchronize instruction (see
 {{table-state-synchronize}}).
 
+### Insertion Throttling
+
+The encoder MUST NOT create -- either via insertion or duplication -- more
+than "MaxEntries" unacknowledged dynamic table entries.

This text prevents an encoder from sending the insertions, but it doesn't prevent it from attempting to reference them. I would start by saying that an encoder cannot reference dynamic table entries that have an absolute index more than MaxEntries greater than the largest acknowledged value.

I would prefer to lean more strongly on different advice. If we say that an encoder MUST NOT reference a table state that it has not sent at least once we get a stronger guarantee. The text here is only correct in that it prevents the table from extending more than MaxEntries into the future, but it doesn't also cover the point regarding references to those entries.

I'd also like to get more context here. Why?

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This also hits the -transport and -spin-exp drafts, but I'm assuming that this is OK. 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This also hits the -transport and -spin-exp drafts, but I'm assuming that this is OK.

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  • Cite RFC 8446 for TLS 1.3

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I am still lost. Is this number the absolute index of the next entry = to be inserted, then?

In that case, you will still need signaling -- this is because zero is= a valid index value. 0 cannot both mean "no references" an= d "reference to entry MaxEntries * 2 - 1."

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -312,6 +379,11 @@ for example because the encoder or the decoder have chosen not to risk blocked
 streams, the decoder sends a Table State Synchronize instruction (see
 {{table-state-synchronize}}).
 
+### Insertion Throttling
+
+The encoder MUST NOT create -- either via insertion or duplication -- more
+than "MaxEntries" unacknowledged dynamic table entries.

The reference restriction is specified in another place in the document:

An encoder MUST ensure that a header block which references a dynamic table
entry is not received by the decoder after the referenced entry has already been
evicted.

This guarantees that the encoder won't reference an entry that's more than MaxEntries away.

A header block cannot reference entries more than MaxEntries - 1 slots apart. This holds both for past and future entries. Why do we need more restrictions?

The advice that

an encoder MUST NOT reference a table state that it has not sent at least once
seems like a stronger version of the warning about deadlocks (which does not exist in the current draft).

Point taken regarding the context; I'll add it.

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Or "Table State" to match the "Table State Synchronize" instruction.

TSS transmits deltas, whereas Largest Reference specifies an absolute position in the table. How could they match?

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

>  
 Each entry possesses both an absolute index which is fixed for the lifetime of
 that entry and a relative index which changes over time based on the context of
-the reference. The first entry inserted has an absolute index of "1"; indices
-increase sequentially with each insertion.
+the reference.
+
+The absolute index takes on the values in the range
+
+~~~
+   [ 0, MaxEntries * 2 - 1 ]

Yes, inclusive. Is something more that using square brackets required?

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -251,14 +299,33 @@ Because QUIC does not guarantee order between data on different streams, a
 header block might reference an entry in the dynamic table that has not yet been
 received.
 
-Each header block contains a Largest Reference which identifies the table state
-necessary for decoding. If the greatest absolute index in the dynamic table is
-less than the value of the Largest Reference, the stream is considered
-"blocked."  While blocked, header field data should remain in the blocked
-stream's flow control window.  When the Largest Reference is zero, the frame
-contains no references to the dynamic table and can always be processed
-immediately. A stream becomes unblocked when the greatest absolute index in the
-dynamic table becomes greater than or equal to the Largest Reference for all
+Each header block contains a Largest Reference field which identifies the
+table state necessary for decoding.
+
+When the Largest Reference value is not specified, the frame contains no

Will a forward reference do? I'd like to avoid discussing the actual encoding of the Largest Reference in two places.

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@dtikhonov commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> -necessary for decoding. If the greatest absolute index in the dynamic table is
-less than the value of the Largest Reference, the stream is considered
-"blocked."  While blocked, header field data should remain in the blocked
-stream's flow control window.  When the Largest Reference is zero, the frame
-contains no references to the dynamic table and can always be processed
-immediately. A stream becomes unblocked when the greatest absolute index in the
-dynamic table becomes greater than or equal to the Largest Reference for all
+Each header block contains a Largest Reference field which identifies the
+table state necessary for decoding.
+
+When the Largest Reference value is not specified, the frame contains no
+references to the dynamic table and can always be processed immediately.
+
+When it is specified, the Largest Reference value is compared with
+the absolute index value of the next entry to be inserted into the
+dynamic table.  That entry's absolute index value divides the absolute

I used the "next entry to be inserted" because I see no other way to describe the initial state, when there is no "last inserted entry." Perhaps we could add the concept of "cursor?"

The "total number of inserts" concept eludes me. The diagram is confusing, as it combines both encoder instructions (Insert) and header block instructions (Post-Base).

  1. If the "total number of inserts" is the number of inserts performed while encoding a given header block, how does the decoder know where to start?
  2. If this number is added to the current absolute index, then it is the same as Largest Reference.
  3. ?

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Sec 6.6.3 of the transport draft says:
"An endpoint MUST ignore transport parameters that it does not support."

However, the length of the parameter value is implicitly defined by the parameter type. If the parameter type is unknown, the length if unknown is well. Without knowing the length one cannot jump to the next value. What do i miss?

To be honest I also don't find it very intuitively to use the TLS presentation language here as it just introduced a "dependency" on TLS. However, for TLS this is only an additional data blob that is does not need to understand. Therefore I would prefer to "just" use some TLV encoding here.

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Currently the transport drafts says:
"Packets containing non-ACK frames MUST be acknowledged immediately or when a delayed ack timer expires."

However, I think the transport draft should set actually boundaries here and not rely on the delayed ack timer defined in another doc. RFC1122 for TCP e.g. says
"A TCP SHOULD implement a delayed ACK, but an ACK should not
be excessively delayed; in particular, the delay MUST be
less than 0.5 seconds, and in a stream of full-sized
segments there SHOULD be an ACK for at least every second
segment."

I guess we can now a days adapt the values a bit but should probably define similar boundaries in the transport draft.

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Quick question: is it actually necessary to also reset the (crypto) stream offset if the packet number space changes? If not, I guess that would solve the problem...?

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@mirjak that's what I was arguing for in= #1592. IMO, that= 's a better, more explicit design at least at the QUIC layer. Other folks h= ave argued against it, because they feel (I don't agree) it makes it harder= to validate things were received in the correct TLS epoch, at the TLS laye= r. I already have my stack set up this way (a single stream), but I have a = small translation layer to add/subtract offsets whenever I send/receive pac= kets. It works really well for me and it a compact, simple layer at the QUI= C layer. The QUIC to TLS interactions aren't really any more complicated IM= O.

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Thanks! I'm currently reviewing the transport draft and I just found it logically weird that the crypto stream is reset but the data streams are not, or is that an oversight?

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -457,7 +457,11 @@ Although TLS only uses one encryption level at a time, QUIC may use more than
 one level. For instance, after sending its Finished message (using a CRYPTO
 frame at the Handshake encryption level) an endpoint can send STREAM data (in
 1-RTT encryption). If the Finished message is lost, the endpoint uses the
-Handshake encryption level to retransmit the lost message.
+Handshake encryption level to retransmit the lost message.  Reordering or loss
+of packets can mean that QUIC will need to handle packets at multiple encryption
+levels.  During the handshake, this means potentially handling of packets at

"potentially handling packets" or "handling of packets", but not both.

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What you missed is that the TLS presentation language makes length prefi= xes implicit. The generic definition for a TransportParameter is:

   struct {
      TransportParameterId parameter;
      opaque value<0..2^16-1>;
   } TransportParameter;

That means that value is a sequence of bytes with a two-byt= e length prefix. Everything else defines the content of value= for particular values of parameter.

Separately, while I agree that there's a dependency on the TLS docum= ent for the definition of the presentation language, there's actually = no dependency on TLS libraries for generating this sequence of blo= bs. It's a convenient notation for a binary structure, just as ABNF is a c= onvenient notation for a text structure. I'm with you that I wish it were = a separate RFC rather than being a section in a TLS draft, but that's not t= he province of this WG.

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Mike, I agree that's unintuitive.

My understanding is that they're separate because the one thing sent i= n a CRYPTO frame in 0RTT is end of early data and that has to be sent in = 0RTT for reasons I can't remember, but I believe are related to crypo the= ory/proofs.

This is unlike everything else in 0RTT which can be retransmitted with= 1RTT keys, which is very odd from a transport perspective. It'd be nice= to fix, but I was told it was infeasible last time I asked.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b7313eb37cc3_3aa03fb952ad45bc1178e0-- From nobody Tue Aug 14 12:26:47 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF95E130E14 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2018 12:26:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pudiSaBwodc1 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2018 12:26:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5374B130E12 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2018 12:26:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2018 12:26:43 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534274803; bh=OHTKc/8hb+h3BqiRzMuDuuoehZmtHWekmHM4k0PdBG4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=umu1DwiufqV0CPBFzN/8d2VCNDoF8FroE7VMVlPHTG7IyzG5zCEZqloDlSEJHzkHy s2tlGy+bRjtY5GjCHCcZumI31XB0hHbY7qfVUR6XuRB5byawdZMukjvCLOBR+AW9r5 pSeKUKwCI3WkbSC3NUlJQ60TxnwsYfDvTTHratyc= From: Christian Huitema Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Ordering of crypto stream packets (#1651) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b732cf330a35_50343ffce52d45c010381b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: huitema X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2018 19:26:46 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b732cf330a35_50343ffce52d45c010381b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes it is counter-intuitive. If a 0-RTT packet appears lost, any CRYPTO frame inside it would have to be resent in a new 0-RTT packet, but the STREAM frames should be resent in a DATA packet. And then, the 0-RTT packets can only be acknowledged by 1-RTT packet, which means that they should not be considered lost before the handshake completes and the server has a chance to send an ACK. But on the other hand the exchange cannot complete if the EOED message is lost, so those 0-RTT packets that contains crypto shall be considered lost if they are not acknowledged after a time-out. This whole thing is a ugly big wart. See issue #1518. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1651#issuecomment-412987586 ----==_mimepart_5b732cf330a35_50343ffce52d45c010381b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yes it is counter-intuitive. If a 0-RTT packet appears lost, any CRYPT= O frame inside it would have to be resent in a new 0-RTT packet, but the = STREAM frames should be resent in a DATA packet. And then, the 0-RTT pack= ets can only be acknowledged by 1-RTT packet, which means that they shoul= d not be considered lost before the handshake completes and the server ha= s a chance to send an ACK. But on the other hand the exchange cannot comp= lete if the EOED message is lost, so those 0-RTT packets that contains cr= ypto shall be considered lost if they are not acknowledged after a time-o= ut. This whole thing is a ugly big wart. See issue #1518.

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Ah, right. Now I remember that I looked it up (and then forgot again). Maybe worth explicitly mentioning (instead of "just" point to the TLS RFC).

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Nice improvement, some text suggestions. > @@ -2499,9 +2499,11 @@ A connection that remains idle for longer than the advertised idle timeout (see draining state when the idle timeout expires. Each endpoint advertises their own idle timeout to their peer. The idle timeout -starts from the last packet received, or the first packet sent after the last -received packet. The latter condition ensures that initiating new activity -postpones a timeout. +starts from the last packet received. In order to ensure that initiating new +activity postpones an idle timeout, an endpoint restarts this timer when sending +a packet if there are no other packets outstanding. This condition only applies +to packets that contain other than ACK or PADDING frames; those packets could "that contain other" is awkward, how about "that contain frames other" > @@ -2499,9 +2499,11 @@ A connection that remains idle for longer than the advertised idle timeout (see draining state when the idle timeout expires. Each endpoint advertises their own idle timeout to their peer. The idle timeout -starts from the last packet received, or the first packet sent after the last -received packet. The latter condition ensures that initiating new activity -postpones a timeout. +starts from the last packet received. In order to ensure that initiating new +activity postpones an idle timeout, an endpoint restarts this timer when sending +a packet if there are no other packets outstanding. This condition only applies +to packets that contain other than ACK or PADDING frames; those packets could +remain outstanding longer and prevent the timeout from being extended. How about a separate sentence "Packets that contain only ACK or PADDING frames may never be acknowledged, so they do not extend the timeout." > @@ -2499,9 +2499,11 @@ A connection that remains idle for longer than the advertised idle timeout (see draining state when the idle timeout expires. Each endpoint advertises their own idle timeout to their peer. The idle timeout -starts from the last packet received, or the first packet sent after the last -received packet. The latter condition ensures that initiating new activity -postpones a timeout. +starts from the last packet received. In order to ensure that initiating new +activity postpones an idle timeout, an endpoint restarts this timer when sending +a packet if there are no other packets outstanding. This condition only applies How about "In order to ensure that initiating new activity postpones an idle timeout, an endpoint restarts this timer when sending a packet containing frames besides ACK or PADDING and no other packets are outstanding." -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

Nice improvement, some text suggestions.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2499,9 +2499,11 @@ A connection that remains idle for longer than the advertised idle timeout (see
 draining state when the idle timeout expires.
 
 Each endpoint advertises their own idle timeout to their peer. The idle timeout
-starts from the last packet received, or the first packet sent after the last
-received packet.  The latter condition ensures that initiating new activity
-postpones a timeout.
+starts from the last packet received.  In order to ensure that initiating new
+activity postpones an idle timeout, an endpoint restarts this timer when sending
+a packet if there are no other packets outstanding.  This condition only applies
+to packets that contain other than ACK or PADDING frames; those packets could

"that contain other" is awkward, how about "that contain frames other"

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2499,9 +2499,11 @@ A connection that remains idle for longer than the advertised idle timeout (see
 draining state when the idle timeout expires.
 
 Each endpoint advertises their own idle timeout to their peer. The idle timeout
-starts from the last packet received, or the first packet sent after the last
-received packet.  The latter condition ensures that initiating new activity
-postpones a timeout.
+starts from the last packet received.  In order to ensure that initiating new
+activity postpones an idle timeout, an endpoint restarts this timer when sending
+a packet if there are no other packets outstanding.  This condition only applies
+to packets that contain other than ACK or PADDING frames; those packets could
+remain outstanding longer and prevent the timeout from being extended.

How about a separate sentence "Packets that contain only ACK or PADDING frames may never be acknowledged, so they do not extend the timeout."

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2499,9 +2499,11 @@ A connection that remains idle for longer than the advertised idle timeout (see
 draining state when the idle timeout expires.
 
 Each endpoint advertises their own idle timeout to their peer. The idle timeout
-starts from the last packet received, or the first packet sent after the last
-received packet.  The latter condition ensures that initiating new activity
-postpones a timeout.
+starts from the last packet received.  In order to ensure that initiating new
+activity postpones an idle timeout, an endpoint restarts this timer when sending
+a packet if there are no other packets outstanding.  This condition only applies

How about "In order to ensure that initiating new activity postpones an idle timeout, an endpoint restarts this timer when sending a packet containing frames besides ACK or PADDING and no other packets are outstanding."

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2499,9 +2499,11 @@ A connection that remains idle for longer than the advertised idle timeout (see
 draining state when the idle timeout expires.
 
 Each endpoint advertises their own idle timeout to their peer. The idle timeout
-starts from the last packet received, or the first packet sent after the last
-received packet.  The latter condition ensures that initiating new activity
-postpones a timeout.
+starts from the last packet received.  In order to ensure that initiating new
+activity postpones an idle timeout, an endpoint restarts this timer when sending
+a packet if there are no other packets outstanding.  This condition only applies
+to packets that contain other than ACK or PADDING frames; those packets could

This comment is obsolete if you make the above change or something similar.

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On a high level, there's some remaining vagueness about what outstanding means. Particularly now that PADDING frames count towards bytes in flight, but do not elicit an ACK.

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I believe Martin implicitly suggested "outstanding" by writing PR #1652

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----==_mimepart_5b733f1957cc9_16a83fe6ccabe62059086e-- From nobody Tue Aug 14 13:55:26 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C61371286E3 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2018 13:55:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TIJnop0R2QfJ for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2018 13:55:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F2F5126CC7 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2018 13:55:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2018 13:55:22 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534280122; bh=5aQidJgnxNGy81FmJLVz8eeWd0MAoOfYX1yi2RUY4q8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ks80hYGkbC40FHpAvWUISRtTRtwRADUP8vSC97bEGmbzrIM8D3K1ujxoEMwzffqGI TpWqs032IY3lM6svrUBDIX11WU8yqc2GG0maquk7Yi6dY6epCHGsQlANKnHBELvupS JWbLjKL9zR4s4S2vRfKLspmsIYf8ai3foFmoGRbQ= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Restrict delayed ACKs (#1662) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b7341ba6a11a_43e43ff5e7abe628518673"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2018 20:55:25 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b7341ba6a11a_43e43ff5e7abe628518673 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There's more text on this in the recovery draft, as well as related issue #1428 Since there is a lot of interaction with recovery here, I'd rather keep as much text as possible in that draft. I want to keep specific numbers like 0.5 seconds or 2 packets out of this draft, but if we need more text referencing recovery or some other descriptive text, feel free to suggest it. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1662#issuecomment-413012916 ----==_mimepart_5b7341ba6a11a_43e43ff5e7abe628518673 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

There's more text on this in the recovery draft, as well as related is= sue #1428

Since there is a lot of interaction with recovery here, I'd rather kee= p as much text as possible in that draft. I want to keep specific number= s like 0.5 seconds or 2 packets out of this draft, but if we need more te= xt referencing recovery or some other descriptive text, feel free to sugg= est it.

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When you are done with keys, set a timer. Working through all the ramifications and defining this precisely takes more words than I'd originally anticipated. Closes #1544. Commit: 16e92264fd7703ea7ad2b4af97a324a507baa52a https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/16e92264fd7703ea7ad2b4af97a324a507baa52a Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-08-08 (Wed, 08 Aug 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Editorial comments from Mike Commit: 59df9a558ac07f7982380c686097e7ae303dc2bd https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/59df9a558ac07f7982380c686097e7ae303dc2bd Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-08-09 (Thu, 09 Aug 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- 'And when it all', ooooo Commit: df57dfe8a9ff4c564b27cffdb21c8046e3a9442f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/df57dfe8a9ff4c564b27cffdb21c8046e3a9442f Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-08-15 (Wed, 15 Aug 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1636 from quicwg/timeout-keys Rules for discarding old keys Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/5acf506b0e67...df57dfe8a9ff **NOTE:** This service has been marked for deprecation: https://developer.github.com/changes/2018-04-25-github-services-deprecation/ Functionality will be removed from GitHub.com on January 31st, 2019. ----==_mimepart_5b7353dd56a1_5a5b2ac03f690ecc88791-- From nobody Tue Aug 14 15:12:57 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95519130E10 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2018 15:12:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JAZzSl2uYhx2 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2018 15:12:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BF7B9130DC1 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2018 15:12:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2018 15:12:47 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534284767; bh=Lh/phQ1gUhuQkOu85v9xD8gXljMb0uSTA+afwo/np9k=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=U5c870VTsYuLmdKeFuJSwadv52Pm55MGzS64oK164s9XL4hb0EhRupNko95rdjxkH Ehz24qbMiGY34FE2so9+yS5oT2k0sljeJFVRtHSsLZVGsmZ/wQef3v53CVMdqZTp4R WLfjHUv6GNPZ3LNFFUvSKmrGzXttZpLZG+A7Fcm4= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rules for discarding old keys (#1636) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b7353df9ce32_48aa3fa418ed45bc1772730"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2018 22:12:51 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b7353df9ce32_48aa3fa418ed45bc1772730 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Merged #1636 into master. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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The only problem we're aware of is at the server when it consumes 0-RTT, but it's serious enough that some clarification is in order. This makes it clear that there are two events of interest, then expands on the particular problem scenario. Closes #1651. Commit: ab5c19ffdbd00874eaa0bc7394699314a32900c6 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ab5c19ffdbd00874eaa0bc7394699314a32900c6 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-08-14 (Tue, 14 Aug 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- More text Commit: 7632df337d77147dfb21d6de5edfacb3bcd6bcc1 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7632df337d77147dfb21d6de5edfacb3bcd6bcc1 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-08-15 (Wed, 15 Aug 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Grammar! 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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MikeBishop commented on this pull request. Sorry, this was hanging in a draft. Take it for what it's worth, if anything. > @@ -440,23 +440,35 @@ Important: ### Encryption Level Changes -At each change of encryption level in either direction, TLS provides QUIC with -the new level and the encryption keys. These events are not asynchronous; they -always occur immediately after TLS is provided with new handshake octets, or -after TLS produces handshake octets. +As keys for new encryption levels become available, TLS provides QUIC with those +keys. Separately, as TLS starts using keys at a given encryption level, TLS +indicates to QUIC that it is now reading or writing with keys at that encryption +level. These events are not asynchronous; they always occur immediately after +TLS is provided with new handshake octets, or after TLS produces handshake +octets. But doesn't the production of new handshake octets also occur immediately after TLS is provided with new incoming octets? I suspect we could condense that statement. > If 0-RTT is possible, it is ready after the client sends a TLS ClientHello message or the server receives that message. After providing a QUIC client with the first handshake octets, the TLS stack might signal the change to 0-RTT keys. On the server, after receiving handshake octets that contain a ClientHello message, a TLS server might signal that 0-RTT keys are available. -Note that although TLS only uses one encryption level at a time, QUIC may use -more than one level. For instance, after sending its Finished message (using a -CRYPTO frame in Handshake encryption) may send STREAM data (in 1-RTT -encryption). However, if the Finished is lost, the client would have to -retransmit the Finished, in which case it would use Handshake encryption. - +Although TLS only uses one encryption level at a time, QUIC may use more than +one level. For instance, after sending its Finished message (using a CRYPTO +frame at the Handshake encryption level) an endpoint can send STREAM data (in +1-RTT encryption). If the Finished message is lost, the endpoint uses the It might actually be more instructive to talk about CRYPTO frames at different levels. Maybe the 1-RTT data could be a New Session Ticket in a CRYPTO frame? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1654#pullrequestreview-146131809 ----==_mimepart_5b735a5bc5c30_7de03f88f70be61c123911 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@MikeBishop commented on this pull request.

Sorry, this was hanging in a draft. Take it for what it's worth, if anything.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -440,23 +440,35 @@ Important:
 
 ### Encryption Level Changes
 
-At each change of encryption level in either direction, TLS provides QUIC with
-the new level and the encryption keys.  These events are not asynchronous; they
-always occur immediately after TLS is provided with new handshake octets, or
-after TLS produces handshake octets.
+As keys for new encryption levels become available, TLS provides QUIC with those
+keys.  Separately, as TLS starts using keys at a given encryption level, TLS
+indicates to QUIC that it is now reading or writing with keys at that encryption
+level.  These events are not asynchronous; they always occur immediately after
+TLS is provided with new handshake octets, or after TLS produces handshake
+octets.

But doesn't the production of new handshake octets also occur immediately after TLS is provided with new incoming octets? I suspect we could condense that statement.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>  
 If 0-RTT is possible, it is ready after the client sends a TLS ClientHello
 message or the server receives that message.  After providing a QUIC client with
 the first handshake octets, the TLS stack might signal the change to 0-RTT
 keys. On the server, after receiving handshake octets that contain a ClientHello
 message, a TLS server might signal that 0-RTT keys are available.
 
-Note that although TLS only uses one encryption level at a time, QUIC may use
-more than one level. For instance, after sending its Finished message (using a
-CRYPTO frame in Handshake encryption) may send STREAM data (in 1-RTT
-encryption). However, if the Finished is lost, the client would have to
-retransmit the Finished, in which case it would use Handshake encryption.
-
+Although TLS only uses one encryption level at a time, QUIC may use more than
+one level. For instance, after sending its Finished message (using a CRYPTO
+frame at the Handshake encryption level) an endpoint can send STREAM data (in
+1-RTT encryption). If the Finished message is lost, the endpoint uses the

It might actually be more instructive to talk about CRYPTO frames at different levels. Maybe the 1-RTT data could be a New Session Ticket in a CRYPTO frame?

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@kazuho commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -440,23 +440,35 @@ Important:
 
 ### Encryption Level Changes
 
-At each change of encryption level in either direction, TLS provides QUIC with
-the new level and the encryption keys.  These events are not asynchronous; they
-always occur immediately after TLS is provided with new handshake octets, or
-after TLS produces handshake octets.
+As keys for new encryption levels become available, TLS provides QUIC with those
+keys.  Separately, as TLS starts using keys at a given encryption level, TLS
+indicates to QUIC that it is now reading or writing with keys at that encryption
+level.  These events are not asynchronous; they always occur immediately after
+TLS is provided with new handshake octets, or after TLS produces handshake
+octets.

That's not always the case. People sometimes offload public key crypto to different devices (even to different continents when private key leakage is a concern).

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This appears to be part of the cluster of issues related to ACK delays. If someone has a concrete proposal for that, I would like to see that before the interim, so that we can resolve it there.

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TSS transmits deltas, whereas Largest Reference specifies an absolute position in the table. How could they match?

Table State Synchronize transmits deltas to the table state?

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I think that these are incorrect. > + +{{initial-secrets}} contains the salt used for Initial Packet +Encryption. +Using the Initial Destination Connection ID 0x8394c8f03e515708, the +derived 32 byte initial secret is: + +~~~ + a5 72 b0 24 5a f1 ed df 5c 61 c6 e3 f7 f9 30 4c + a6 6b fb 4c aa f7 65 67 d5 cb 8d d1 dc 4e 82 0b +~~~ + +The labels generated by the HKDF-Expand-Label function are: + +~~~ + quic client in: 00 20 0e 71 75 69 63 20 63 6c 69 65 6e 74 20 + 69 6e These labels all omit the trailing zero octet for the context. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1573#pullrequestreview-141400767 ----==_mimepart_5b737b064d4bf_632b3f85be4be6182569ef Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@martinthomson requested changes on this pull request.

I think that these are incorrect.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> +
+{{initial-secrets}} contains the salt used for Initial Packet
+Encryption.
+Using the Initial Destination Connection ID 0x8394c8f03e515708, the
+derived 32 byte initial secret is:
+
+~~~
+  a5 72 b0 24 5a f1 ed df 5c 61 c6 e3 f7 f9 30 4c
+  a6 6b fb 4c aa f7 65 67 d5 cb 8d d1 dc 4e 82 0b
+~~~
+
+The labels generated by the HKDF-Expand-Label function are:
+
+~~~
+  quic client in: 00 20 0e 71 75 69 63 20 63 6c 69 65 6e 74 20
+                  69 6e

These labels all omit the trailing zero octet for the context.

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Surely an ACK only packet does not prevent idle timeout from refreshing? It merely does not controbute to progress?

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mikkelfj commented on this pull request. > @@ -440,23 +440,35 @@ Important: ### Encryption Level Changes -At each change of encryption level in either direction, TLS provides QUIC with -the new level and the encryption keys. These events are not asynchronous; they -always occur immediately after TLS is provided with new handshake octets, or -after TLS produces handshake octets. +As keys for new encryption levels become available, TLS provides QUIC with those +keys. Separately, as TLS starts using keys at a given encryption level, TLS +indicates to QUIC that it is now reading or writing with keys at that encryption +level. These events are not asynchronous; they always occur immediately after +TLS is provided with new handshake octets, or after TLS produces handshake +octets. @kazuho that may be so, but isn't TLS / QUIC currently stating that all interaction is synchronous? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1654#discussion_r210172357 ----==_mimepart_5b73b5bb5a006_75883fb161cbe62840049d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -440,23 +440,35 @@ Important:
 
 ### Encryption Level Changes
 
-At each change of encryption level in either direction, TLS provides QUIC with
-the new level and the encryption keys.  These events are not asynchronous; they
-always occur immediately after TLS is provided with new handshake octets, or
-after TLS produces handshake octets.
+As keys for new encryption levels become available, TLS provides QUIC with those
+keys.  Separately, as TLS starts using keys at a given encryption level, TLS
+indicates to QUIC that it is now reading or writing with keys at that encryption
+level.  These events are not asynchronous; they always occur immediately after
+TLS is provided with new handshake octets, or after TLS produces handshake
+octets.

@kazuho that may be so, but isn't TLS / QUIC currently stating that all interaction is synchronous?

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----==_mimepart_5b73b5bb5a006_75883fb161cbe62840049d-- From nobody Tue Aug 14 23:13:10 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71055130E69 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2018 23:13:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ulzYmMxn3oUQ for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2018 23:13:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 17019130DDB for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2018 23:13:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2018 23:13:05 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534313585; bh=Tfos2wePyie/uGgPfBB0EFOWMDgJ1L9QBHvNGVRbiZc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=rV+QqMeBYIbdp0dQhMHu7LnmyLraFqCVFd6MQx/8OsEZcsa+ZyEpqnCOt/7wOl1d2 Taz9QLzyb/HNtXdedBOxWm5nuRU02Jo4DQxAMJBNytWZFrAmPDPtTq9iM596/MBz87 ep5d7zjzR+vwunJL03Ojr0/RsdZwvfjoQgOwOTdw= From: Christian Huitema Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Add an appendix containing test vectors for "Initial". (#1573) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b73c47122024_4abf3f99ebcbe6245819de"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: huitema X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2018 06:13:10 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b73c47122024_4abf3f99ebcbe6245819de Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think we would be better off with the test vector that EKR published. I use it as unit test in Picoquic, and the implementation works against Quicly, NGTCP2 and NGX. Here are the values that I tested, based on EKR's message: ``` /* * test copied from EKR test vector */ static uint8_t draft13_test_input_packet[] = { 0xff, 0xff, 0x00, 0x00, 0x0d, 0x50, 0x06, 0xb8, 0x58, 0xec, 0x6f, 0x80, 0x45, 0x2b, 0x00, 0x44, 0xef, 0xa5, 0xd8, 0xd3, 0x07, 0xc2, 0x97, 0x3f, 0xa0, 0xd6, 0x3f, 0xd9, 0xb0, 0x3a, 0x4e, 0x16, 0x3b, 0x99, 0x0d, 0xd7, 0x78, 0x89, 0x4a, 0x9e, 0xdc, 0x8e, 0xac, 0xfb, 0xe4, 0xaa, 0x6f, 0xbf, 0x4a, 0x22, 0xec, 0x7f, 0x90, 0x6b, 0x5e, 0x8b, 0x8a, 0xe1, 0x2e, 0x5f, 0xcc, 0x79, 0x24, 0xdf, 0xee, 0xe8, 0x13, 0x84, 0x2b, 0xb2, 0x14, 0x9b, 0x80, 0x5e, 0x55, 0x89, 0x50, 0x84, 0xe8, 0x39, 0x32, 0x00, 0xbb, 0x3f, 0xc6, 0x18, 0xaf, 0x7d, 0x08, 0x28, 0x14, 0x85, 0xd9, 0x14, 0xce, 0x42, 0x30, 0x3f, 0x5d, 0x77, 0x2b, 0x20, 0x05, 0x08, 0xa0, 0xc0, 0x02, 0x53, 0xe3, 0x32, 0xe3, 0x6a, 0x84, 0xf6, 0x57, 0x32, 0x1a, 0xc4, 0xc8, 0xe2, 0xcc, 0x8a, 0x11, 0x7e, 0x95, 0x87, 0x1f, 0x12, 0xb1, 0xf3, 0x6b, 0xe8, 0xc4, 0xb7, 0x6f, 0xa4, 0x33, 0xdc, 0x4d, 0x31, 0x42, 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0xea, 0xbe, 0x4e, 0xbc, 0x31, 0x06, 0x54, 0x7e, 0x79, 0xc6, 0xcb, 0x93, 0x31, 0x05, 0xd9, 0x07, 0xb4, 0xc8, 0xc6, 0x04, 0x43, 0xe9, 0x7a, 0x15, 0x46, 0x94, 0xba, 0xb5, 0xed, 0xfc, 0x78, 0x1a, 0x43, 0x86, 0x75, 0xb9, 0xde, 0x6e, 0xd0, 0x3c, 0x77, 0xf5, 0x14, 0x58, 0xea, 0xb6, 0x1c, 0xa2, 0xe8, 0x0a, 0xc0, 0x2c, 0xc8, 0xc0, 0x37, 0xd8, 0xfb, 0x3c, 0xf1, 0x29, 0xd7, 0x10, 0x7f, 0x61, 0x8d, 0x66, 0x03, 0x2c, 0xc0, 0x22, 0x38, 0xa2, 0x11, 0xf7, 0x8b, 0xfa, 0x44, 0xe7, 0xc1, 0xbb, 0xcf, 0xcc, 0x62, 0x77, 0x71, 0xc1, 0x88, 0xd1, 0xb3, 0x71, 0x3c, 0xe5, 0xe7, 0x5c, 0xd2, 0x32, 0x5a, 0x0a, 0x2b, 0xa0, 0x82, 0x68, 0xca, 0xd1, 0x3b, 0x27, 0xd9, 0x76, 0x96, 0xef, 0x67, 0x8b, 0x59, 0x2d, 0x0a, 0xc8, 0x0a, 0xd1, 0xba, 0xcb, 0x4a, 0x1b, 0xa7, 0x5b, 0xea, 0x8c, 0x47, 0x7f, 0x39, 0xfc, 0x32, 0xc2, 0xaa, 0x20, 0xf3, 0x52, 0xbb, 0x0d, 0xa1, 0xc4, 0x9b, 0x7d, 0x39, 0x27, 0xbc, 0xd9, 0xdf, 0xaf, 0x22, 0x92, 0x37, 0x08, 0x1d, 0x5f, 0xa0, 0x89, 0x24, 0xfe, 0xfd, 0x92, 0x3f, 0xf0, 0xac, 0x6b, 0xaa, 0xd6, 0x86, 0x4b, 0x7c, 0x10, 0xdc, 0x73, 0x37, 0x9a, 0x5e, 0xbd, 0x9e, 0x46, 0x78, 0xa0, 0xc2, 0x65, 0x17, 0x65, 0x6e, 0x8e, 0x51, 0xfc, 0xa2, 0xa5, 0x1a, 0x33, 0xfb, 0x2c, 0xdd, 0x5d, 0x76, 0xd1, 0x26, 0x74, 0xc2, 0x40, 0xba, 0x9a, 0x48, 0x93, 0xc1, 0xaf, 0x69, 0xb8, 0xf2, 0xc4, 0xad, 0xf3, 0x7c, 0x4a, 0x47, 0x55, 0x1e, 0xb2, 0x00, 0x6a, 0x73, 0x2f, 0x6b, 0x3b, 0x2f, 0x33, 0x8c, 0x07, 0x8e, 0xde, 0x33, 0x94, 0x6d, 0xfe, 0x4a, 0x55, 0xbf, 0x64, 0x4d, 0x3b, 0x98, 0x84, 0x86, 0x93, 0xad, 0xa1, 0xfc, 0xb6, 0xfc, 0x16, 0xca, 0xc3, 0x39, 0xee, 0x65, 0xc2, 0x4d, 0xc6, 0x4b, 0x0a, 0xe9, 0x20, 0x05, 0x35, 0x4a, 0xf0, 0x0a, 0xde, 0x71, 0xe6, 0xc5, 0xe2, 0xef, 0xd8, 0x5c, 0x46, 0x13, 0x1d, 0x94, 0x8f, 0xf1, 0x40, 0x96, 0xb0, 0xf0, 0x6a, 0x41, 0xd8, 0x3c, 0x85, 0x22, 0xf3, 0x0b, 0xeb, 0x4e, 0xaa, 0xf4, 0xa6, 0xf9, 0x08, 0xfe, 0x2a, 0x6e, 0xe7, 0x54, 0xc8, 0x96 }; static uint32_t draft13_test_vn = 0xff00000d; static picoquic_connection_id_t draft13_test_cnx_id = { { 0x06, 0xb8, 0x58, 0xec, 0x6f, 0x80, 0x45, 0x2b }, 8 }; static uint8_t draft13_test_salt[] = { 0x9c, 0x10, 0x8f, 0x98, 0x52, 0x0a, 0x5c, 0x5c, 0x32, 0x96, 0x8e, 0x95, 0x0e, 0x8a, 0x2c, 0x5f, 0xe0, 0x6d, 0x6c, 0x38 }; static uint8_t draft13_test_server_initial_secret[] = { 0x7e, 0x0a, 0xba, 0x2c, 0x4b, 0x97, 0x42, 0xd0, 0xd1, 0x30, 0xbc, 0x73, 0x18, 0x62, 0x2a, 0xd3, 0xb4, 0x4a, 0xca, 0x1f, 0x09, 0xab, 0xb1, 0x9b, 0x3f, 0x39, 0x4c, 0xd7, 0xe2, 0x0f, 0x4b, 0xe0 }; static uint8_t draft13_test_server_key[] = { 0x26, 0x08, 0x0e, 0x60, 0xd2, 0x88, 0xdb, 0x7d, 0xf8, 0x16, 0xa1, 0xcb, 0x0b, 0xc6, 0xc7, 0xf4 }; static uint8_t draft13_test_server_iv[] = { 0xb9, 0xfd, 0xc5, 0xb4, 0x48, 0xaf, 0x3e, 0x02, 0x34, 0x22, 0x44, 0x3b }; static uint8_t draft13_test_server_pn[] = { 0x00, 0xba, 0xbb, 0xe1, 0xbe, 0x0f, 0x0c, 0x66, 0x18, 0x18, 0x8b, 0x4f, 0xcc, 0xa5, 0x7a, 0x96 }; static uint8_t draft13_test_client_initial_secret[] = { 0x82, 0xa7, 0x35, 0x72, 0xe7, 0xcb, 0x89, 0x52, 0x3b, 0x68, 0xc3, 0x9e, 0xaa, 0x83, 0x25, 0x40, 0x4f, 0x86, 0x49, 0x8c, 0x8e, 0x24, 0x37, 0xdf, 0xdc, 0xe1, 0x0f, 0x9c, 0x34, 0x28, 0x1a, 0x3d }; static uint8_t draft13_test_client_key[] = { 0xa7, 0x99, 0x43, 0x56, 0x6c, 0x41, 0x34, 0x2f, 0x2b, 0xc3, 0xde, 0x6b, 0x7c, 0x15, 0x39, 0xdf }; static uint8_t draft13_test_client_iv[] = { 0x84, 0xeb, 0x95, 0x4f, 0xfe, 0x16, 0x1c, 0x38, 0x75, 0x91, 0x9f, 0x5f }; static uint8_t draft13_test_client_pn[] = { 0x5c, 0x0f, 0x64, 0x72, 0xa1, 0x56, 0x58, 0x04, 0x7a, 0x3c, 0xc1, 0xf1, 0x54, 0x78, 0xdc, 0xf4 }; ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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I think we would be better off with the test vector that EKR published= . I use it as unit test in Picoquic, and the implementation works against= Quicly, NGTCP2 and NGX.

Here are the values that I tested, based on EKR's message:


/*
 * test copied from EKR test vector
 */

static uint8_t draft13_test_input_packet[] =3D {
    0xff, 0xff, 0x00, 0x00, 0x0d, 0x50, 0x06, 0xb8, 0x58, 0xec,
    0x6f, 0x80, 0x45, 0x2b, 0x00, 0x44, 0xef, 0xa5, 0xd8, 0xd3,
    0x07, 0xc2, 0x97, 0x3f, 0xa0, 0xd6, 0x3f, 0xd9, 0xb0, 0x3a,
    0x4e, 0x16, 0x3b, 0x99, 0x0d, 0xd7, 0x78, 0x89, 0x4a, 0x9e,
    0xdc, 0x8e, 0xac, 0xfb, 0xe4, 0xaa, 0x6f, 0xbf, 0x4a, 0x22,
    0xec, 0x7f, 0x90, 0x6b, 0x5e, 0x8b, 0x8a, 0xe1, 0x2e, 0x5f,
    0xcc, 0x79, 0x24, 0xdf, 0xee, 0xe8, 0x13, 0x84, 0x2b, 0xb2,
    0x14, 0x9b, 0x80, 0x5e, 0x55, 0x89, 0x50, 0x84, 0xe8, 0x39,
    0x32, 0x00, 0xbb, 0x3f, 0xc6, 0x18, 0xaf, 0x7d, 0x08, 0x28,
    0x14, 0x85, 0xd9, 0x14, 0xce, 0x42, 0x30, 0x3f, 0x5d, 0x77,
    0x2b, 0x20, 0x05, 0x08, 0xa0, 0xc0, 0x02, 0x53, 0xe3, 0x32,
    0xe3, 0x6a, 0x84, 0xf6, 0x57, 0x32, 0x1a, 0xc4, 0xc8, 0xe2,
    0xcc, 0x8a, 0x11, 0x7e, 0x95, 0x87, 0x1f, 0x12, 0xb1, 0xf3,
    0x6b, 0xe8, 0xc4, 0xb7, 0x6f, 0xa4, 0x33, 0xdc, 0x4d, 0x31,
    0x42, 0xe6, 0x54, 0x7f, 0x45, 0x98, 0xbf, 0x4b, 0x19, 0x21,
    0x30, 0xae, 0xa6, 0xfc, 0x20, 0xda, 0x51, 0x58, 0xb2, 0x16,
    0x2b, 0x5a, 0x89, 0x99, 0x57, 0xda, 0x05, 0xde, 0xd5, 0xc7,
    0x09, 0x07, 0x29, 0x8f, 0xd8, 0x85, 0x84, 0x7f, 0x22, 0xa1,
    0xec, 0xb0, 0xa8, 0x14, 0xfe, 0x01, 0x70, 0xe2, 0x3c, 0xad,
    0x20, 0xaf, 0x64, 0xf0, 0x5c, 0xc1, 0x3c, 0x74, 0xe9, 0x18,
    0x24, 0x10, 0x1a, 0xfd, 0xcf, 0x5f, 0x15, 0x32, 0xfc, 0x2f,
    0xde, 0x93, 0x6a, 0x3a, 0x15, 0x9f, 0x76, 0x28, 0x3a, 0x26,
    0xc7, 0x38, 0xf7, 0x78, 0xc7, 0x6e, 0x6c, 0xa4, 0x1f, 0xa7,
    0xf1, 0x34, 0x40, 0x1d, 0x39, 0x02, 0x7f, 0xd8, 0x1d, 0xe1,
    0x7a, 0x80, 0x21, 0xa9, 0xc0, 0xaa, 0xa9, 0xb4, 0x47, 0x8f,
    0xe5, 0xc0, 0x64, 0x79, 0x41, 0x61, 0x8f, 0x3b, 0xee, 0x41,
    0x0c, 0xaf, 0x94, 0xc2, 0x48, 0xd2, 0xa6, 0x4b, 0x5e, 0x45,
    0x84, 0x5c, 0xd7, 0x7d, 0xe1, 0x3a, 0x5e, 0xd9, 0x40, 0x34,
    0xd2, 0xbc, 0x5f, 0x45, 0x78, 0x87, 0x35, 0x19, 0x93, 0xc1,
    0xec, 0xfa, 0x34, 0xfd, 0x0c, 0x65, 0x8f, 0xea, 0x3f, 0x80,
    0x86, 0xd2, 0x68, 0x08, 0xee, 0xf9, 0x76, 0x26, 0x2e, 0xcf,
    0x0a, 0xd6, 0x46, 0xb6, 0x27, 0x94, 0x55, 0x11, 0xdd, 0xe8,
    0x3e, 0x26, 0x60, 0x9c, 0xd5, 0xcf, 0xd7, 0xed, 0x9f, 0x62,
    0x07, 0xd7, 0x66, 0x18, 0xb4, 0x4c, 0x48, 0xbf, 0x62, 0x3b,
    0xf4, 0x20, 0xdc, 0x7c, 0x12, 0x7e, 0x5d, 0x5f, 0x52, 0x9f,
    0x08, 0x3b, 0x71, 0xa1, 0x7b, 0x17, 0xda, 0x32, 0x9b, 0xfc,
    0x38, 0xa7, 0x4b, 0xf8, 0xcf, 0xcf, 0x31, 0x5c, 0x7c, 0x07,
    0x0b, 0x71, 0xeb, 0xfa, 0xe3, 0xab, 0x35, 0x13, 0x41, 0xa7,
    0x67, 0xad, 0xfd, 0xd9, 0xe5, 0x7c, 0x73, 0x8f, 0x5d, 0xe9,
    0xda, 0x53, 0x71, 0x1e, 0x88, 0x6d, 0x14, 0x72, 0x31, 0x0b,
    0x91, 0x7a, 0x1c, 0x97, 0x98, 0xe3, 0xe9, 0xb1, 0x3c, 0x7c,
    0x74, 0xbe, 0xb8, 0xd1, 0xb8, 0x23, 0x45, 0xbe, 0xa1, 0x34,
    0x94, 0x15, 0x67, 0x9a, 0x9c, 0x64, 0xb0, 0x43, 0x3b, 0x68,
    0xc8, 0x71, 0xae, 0x08, 0x09, 0x2a, 0x1f, 0x61, 0x06, 0xbc,
    0x06, 0x33, 0x7c, 0xd3, 0x43, 0x86, 0x6e, 0xe8, 0x18, 0x5c,
    0x03, 0xfc, 0xf3, 0xbb, 0x06, 0x66, 0x45, 0x3f, 0x84, 0x79,
    0x05, 0x54, 0x71, 0x99, 0x41, 0x4c, 0x1e, 0x57, 0x53, 0x57,
    0x47, 0xbe, 0x61, 0xcd, 0xf6, 0x77, 0x83, 0x78, 0xf1, 0x21,
    0xd6, 0x8d, 0xf0, 0x18, 0x1e, 0xe9, 0xe8, 0xd9, 0x93, 0x2c,
    0x1c, 0x59, 0x3c, 0x0f, 0x8c, 0x0a, 0x1a, 0xf0, 0xf5, 0x26,
    0x2b, 0x86, 0x20, 0x50, 0x02, 0xdc, 0xed, 0x9e, 0xcd, 0xae,
    0xe2, 0xd0, 0xaa, 0x07, 0xdd, 0x4c, 0x14, 0xf9, 0x85, 0x71,
    0xe4, 0xbe, 0xa7, 0x2f, 0x84, 0x74, 0xf6, 0x36, 0x97, 0x04,
    0x3e, 0x93, 0x6e, 0xbb, 0x2b, 0xf9, 0x71, 0x6e, 0xd0, 0xef,
    0xbd, 0xc1, 0x30, 0x05, 0xa7, 0x5c, 0xee, 0x3a, 0x49, 0xba,
    0xbc, 0x61, 0xb9, 0x67, 0x77, 0x64, 0x51, 0x0e, 0xb1, 0x98,
    0x28, 0xdf, 0x4e, 0x10, 0xfb, 0x38, 0xb7, 0x9a, 0x1e, 0xfb,
    0xf0, 0x4c, 0xc2, 0xd5, 0x71, 0x94, 0x9d, 0x54, 0x03, 0xf7,
    0x97, 0x36, 0x17, 0x43, 0xdc, 0xc5, 0xe3, 0xbf, 0x3b, 0x43,
    0x96, 0xf7, 0xae, 0x1a, 0x3a, 0xff, 0xbc, 0x9f, 0x72, 0xe5,
    0x40, 0xd9, 0x20, 0x36, 0x39, 0x70, 0x30, 0x7e, 0x07, 0x25,
    0xfa, 0x83, 0x8d, 0x61, 0x18, 0x03, 0x25, 0x1a, 0x4a, 0x08,
    0xcc, 0xca, 0x19, 0x83, 0xd5, 0xb2, 0x9a, 0x58, 0x37, 0x58,
    0xbe, 0x63, 0x34, 0x3e, 0x88, 0xf5, 0x59, 0x1d, 0x88, 0x5b,
    0x8a, 0xf6, 0x95, 0xf3, 0x3a, 0xdb, 0xdd, 0x0d, 0x94, 0x1d,
    0x26, 0x02, 0x87, 0xe3, 0x2e, 0xf5, 0xa9, 0x8f, 0xd5, 0x5a,
    0xc1, 0x37, 0x21, 0x10, 0x21, 0xfd, 0xc2, 0x3b, 0x5d, 0x7a,
    0x54, 0x69, 0xf5, 0x78, 0xbf, 0x7a, 0xff, 0x65, 0x29, 0x11,
    0x79, 0x96, 0xf9, 0xeb, 0xab, 0x5e, 0x6d, 0xc7, 0xb0, 0x47,
    0xb3, 0x56, 0x33, 0x2f, 0xea, 0x82, 0xfd, 0xd6, 0x20, 0xeb,
    0x86, 0xf3, 0xc1, 0xd3, 0x85, 0x5c, 0x8b, 0x80, 0x75, 0xda,
    0x59, 0xa7, 0x66, 0x2f, 0x4a, 0x11, 0xb9, 0x77, 0xd9, 0x96,
    0xb8, 0xb3, 0xc7, 0x65, 0x7a, 0xd4, 0xa8, 0x2a, 0x20, 0xa7,
    0xf7, 0x6c, 0xe3, 0x76, 0xc0, 0x32, 0x00, 0x86, 0xed, 0x02,
    0x9d, 0xd6, 0x15, 0x39, 0x93, 0x07, 0x98, 0x31, 0x13, 0xcc,
    0x0a, 0xa9, 0x73, 0xec, 0xba, 0x69, 0x1e, 0x7e, 0x4c, 0xdc,
    0x80, 0xae, 0xfa, 0x7e, 0x8c, 0x83, 0x47, 0xba, 0xba, 0x05,
    0x0e, 0xac, 0xa7, 0xdc, 0x35, 0xa2, 0x1a, 0xa8, 0x54, 0xe5,
    0x31, 0xdc, 0x77, 0x58, 0xd7, 0xd1, 0x0b, 0x8c, 0x8e, 0x42,
    0xc1, 0xbe, 0x3b, 0xbf, 0x26, 0x6d, 0x05, 0x5a, 0xc2, 0x5c,
    0x37, 0x27, 0x9e, 0xbe, 0xfa, 0x28, 0xbb, 0xe8, 0x9a, 0x34,
    0xad, 0x1a, 0xb3, 0xd2, 0x3d, 0x7a, 0x66, 0xd1, 0xc2, 0x16,
    0xa5, 0x76, 0x50, 0xe6, 0xec, 0x9f, 0xc8, 0xba, 0x7a, 0xdf,
    0xb3, 0x8e, 0x57, 0xf2, 0x0c, 0x46, 0x71, 0x66, 0xc8, 0xfe,
    0x79, 0x44, 0xe6, 0x7f, 0x82, 0x13, 0x81, 0x60, 0x00, 0x20,
    0x04, 0x81, 0x2c, 0x78, 0xba, 0x4b, 0x5f, 0x0d, 0xa9, 0x17,
    0xda, 0x4c, 0xc1, 0x4c, 0xf8, 0xfc, 0x10, 0xdb, 0xa3, 0xf5,
    0x33, 0xfa, 0xcb, 0x11, 0xef, 0x06, 0xd8, 0xb8, 0xf1, 0x78,
    0xea, 0x9c, 0x5e, 0x8a, 0xcb, 0xbc, 0xa7, 0xb7, 0xf0, 0xe1,
    0xf6, 0xb7, 0xa7, 0x0e, 0xc2, 0xd5, 0x10, 0x8c, 0xc4, 0x11,
    0x78, 0x05, 0x62, 0x95, 0x79, 0x3b, 0xed, 0x35, 0x7a, 0xcc,
    0xbb, 0x03, 0xc0, 0x58, 0x2d, 0xc6, 0x9b, 0xc7, 0x7a, 0x34,
    0x03, 0x0f, 0x38, 0xcc, 0xe2, 0x56, 0xc5, 0xa9, 0xce, 0xc6,
    0xe8, 0x62, 0x14, 0x6e, 0x3f, 0x04, 0x63, 0xf1, 0x0d, 0xd5,
    0x83, 0x32, 0x57, 0xd0, 0xa0, 0x35, 0x91, 0x66, 0xa7, 0xe2,
    0x02, 0x7d, 0x98, 0xea, 0xf2, 0x6c, 0xf0, 0xd5, 0xa4, 0xa0,
    0x5f, 0x6e, 0xf8, 0xb7, 0x42, 0xf5, 0xd3, 0x14, 0xa3, 0x1d,
    0xee, 0xea, 0xbe, 0x4e, 0xbc, 0x31, 0x06, 0x54, 0x7e, 0x79,
    0xc6, 0xcb, 0x93, 0x31, 0x05, 0xd9, 0x07, 0xb4, 0xc8, 0xc6,
    0x04, 0x43, 0xe9, 0x7a, 0x15, 0x46, 0x94, 0xba, 0xb5, 0xed,
    0xfc, 0x78, 0x1a, 0x43, 0x86, 0x75, 0xb9, 0xde, 0x6e, 0xd0,
    0x3c, 0x77, 0xf5, 0x14, 0x58, 0xea, 0xb6, 0x1c, 0xa2, 0xe8,
    0x0a, 0xc0, 0x2c, 0xc8, 0xc0, 0x37, 0xd8, 0xfb, 0x3c, 0xf1,
    0x29, 0xd7, 0x10, 0x7f, 0x61, 0x8d, 0x66, 0x03, 0x2c, 0xc0,
    0x22, 0x38, 0xa2, 0x11, 0xf7, 0x8b, 0xfa, 0x44, 0xe7, 0xc1,
    0xbb, 0xcf, 0xcc, 0x62, 0x77, 0x71, 0xc1, 0x88, 0xd1, 0xb3,
    0x71, 0x3c, 0xe5, 0xe7, 0x5c, 0xd2, 0x32, 0x5a, 0x0a, 0x2b,
    0xa0, 0x82, 0x68, 0xca, 0xd1, 0x3b, 0x27, 0xd9, 0x76, 0x96,
    0xef, 0x67, 0x8b, 0x59, 0x2d, 0x0a, 0xc8, 0x0a, 0xd1, 0xba,
    0xcb, 0x4a, 0x1b, 0xa7, 0x5b, 0xea, 0x8c, 0x47, 0x7f, 0x39,
    0xfc, 0x32, 0xc2, 0xaa, 0x20, 0xf3, 0x52, 0xbb, 0x0d, 0xa1,
    0xc4, 0x9b, 0x7d, 0x39, 0x27, 0xbc, 0xd9, 0xdf, 0xaf, 0x22,
    0x92, 0x37, 0x08, 0x1d, 0x5f, 0xa0, 0x89, 0x24, 0xfe, 0xfd,
    0x92, 0x3f, 0xf0, 0xac, 0x6b, 0xaa, 0xd6, 0x86, 0x4b, 0x7c,
    0x10, 0xdc, 0x73, 0x37, 0x9a, 0x5e, 0xbd, 0x9e, 0x46, 0x78,
    0xa0, 0xc2, 0x65, 0x17, 0x65, 0x6e, 0x8e, 0x51, 0xfc, 0xa2,
    0xa5, 0x1a, 0x33, 0xfb, 0x2c, 0xdd, 0x5d, 0x76, 0xd1, 0x26,
    0x74, 0xc2, 0x40, 0xba, 0x9a, 0x48, 0x93, 0xc1, 0xaf, 0x69,
    0xb8, 0xf2, 0xc4, 0xad, 0xf3, 0x7c, 0x4a, 0x47, 0x55, 0x1e,
    0xb2, 0x00, 0x6a, 0x73, 0x2f, 0x6b, 0x3b, 0x2f, 0x33, 0x8c,
    0x07, 0x8e, 0xde, 0x33, 0x94, 0x6d, 0xfe, 0x4a, 0x55, 0xbf,
    0x64, 0x4d, 0x3b, 0x98, 0x84, 0x86, 0x93, 0xad, 0xa1, 0xfc,
    0xb6, 0xfc, 0x16, 0xca, 0xc3, 0x39, 0xee, 0x65, 0xc2, 0x4d,
    0xc6, 0x4b, 0x0a, 0xe9, 0x20, 0x05, 0x35, 0x4a, 0xf0, 0x0a,
    0xde, 0x71, 0xe6, 0xc5, 0xe2, 0xef, 0xd8, 0x5c, 0x46, 0x13,
    0x1d, 0x94, 0x8f, 0xf1, 0x40, 0x96, 0xb0, 0xf0, 0x6a, 0x41,
    0xd8, 0x3c, 0x85, 0x22, 0xf3, 0x0b, 0xeb, 0x4e, 0xaa, 0xf4,
    0xa6, 0xf9, 0x08, 0xfe, 0x2a, 0x6e, 0xe7, 0x54, 0xc8, 0x96
};

static uint32_t draft13_test_vn =3D 0xff00000d;

static picoquic_connection_id_t draft13_test_cnx_id =3D { =

    { 0x06, 0xb8, 0x58, 0xec, 0x6f, 0x80, 0x45, 0x2b }, 8 };

static uint8_t draft13_test_salt[] =3D {
    0x9c, 0x10, 0x8f, 0x98, 0x52, 0x0a, 0x5c, 0x5c, 0x32, 0x96,
    0x8e, 0x95, 0x0e, 0x8a, 0x2c, 0x5f, 0xe0, 0x6d, 0x6c, 0x38
};

static uint8_t draft13_test_server_initial_secret[] =3D {
    0x7e, 0x0a, 0xba, 0x2c, 0x4b, 0x97, 0x42, 0xd0, 0xd1, 0x30,
    0xbc, 0x73, 0x18, 0x62, 0x2a, 0xd3, 0xb4, 0x4a, 0xca, 0x1f,
    0x09, 0xab, 0xb1, 0x9b, 0x3f, 0x39, 0x4c, 0xd7, 0xe2, 0x0f,
    0x4b, 0xe0
};

static uint8_t draft13_test_server_key[] =3D {
    0x26, 0x08, 0x0e, 0x60, 0xd2, 0x88, 0xdb, 0x7d, 0xf8, 0x16,
    0xa1, 0xcb, 0x0b, 0xc6, 0xc7, 0xf4
};

static uint8_t draft13_test_server_iv[] =3D {
    0xb9, 0xfd, 0xc5, 0xb4, 0x48, 0xaf, 0x3e, 0x02, 0x34, 0x22,
    0x44, 0x3b
};

static uint8_t draft13_test_server_pn[] =3D {
    0x00, 0xba, 0xbb, 0xe1, 0xbe, 0x0f, 0x0c, 0x66, 0x18, 0x18,
    0x8b, 0x4f, 0xcc, 0xa5, 0x7a, 0x96
};

static uint8_t draft13_test_client_initial_secret[] =3D {
    0x82, 0xa7, 0x35, 0x72, 0xe7, 0xcb, 0x89, 0x52, 0x3b, 0x68,
    0xc3, 0x9e, 0xaa, 0x83, 0x25, 0x40, 0x4f, 0x86, 0x49, 0x8c,
    0x8e, 0x24, 0x37, 0xdf, 0xdc, 0xe1, 0x0f, 0x9c, 0x34, 0x28,
    0x1a, 0x3d
};

static uint8_t draft13_test_client_key[] =3D {
    0xa7, 0x99, 0x43, 0x56, 0x6c, 0x41, 0x34, 0x2f, 0x2b, 0xc3,
    0xde, 0x6b, 0x7c, 0x15, 0x39, 0xdf
};

static uint8_t draft13_test_client_iv[] =3D {
    0x84, 0xeb, 0x95, 0x4f, 0xfe, 0x16, 0x1c, 0x38, 0x75, 0x91,
    0x9f, 0x5f
};

static uint8_t draft13_test_client_pn[] =3D {
    0x5c, 0x0f, 0x64, 0x72, 0xa1, 0x56, 0x58, 0x04, 0x7a, 0x3c,
    0xc1, 0xf1, 0x54, 0x78, 0xdc, 0xf4
};

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I have the same test vector in https://gist.github.com/martinthomson/7f4b615070254644f4c5335014980cbc - the only problem I can see is that it is very big. (The other problem being that it isn't in a PR yet, but that's a fixable problem.)

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@ianswett I would like to see th= at the transport draft sets the normative boundaries while the recovery d= raft specifies the specifics. This way both drafts are less dependent and= could be easier revised in future separately.

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I'm just find the word "prevent" confusing here:

"Packets that contain only ACK or
PADDING frames are not acknowledged until an endpoint has other frames to send,
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----==_mimepart_5b73f3dedee99_4fe63fad03ed45b421870f2-- From nobody Wed Aug 15 04:10:00 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1739B130E7F for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2018 04:09:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Jmkuvg-joxu6 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2018 04:09:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 93AA8130E78 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2018 04:09:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2018 04:09:56 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534331396; bh=ruxLq7KlON8Os9loXINJq8e5tNGAgX2+kIscg+u2y+Y=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=nPF8VW95D6WdGf4JJp3W4O13eFm7SSo+2DkHPOwWLhTVK7m1cUyBy/AzKSJne/xnC X/eB652G8H9v4kOwmcMU/LKoyNSJ3jUiqnGEJM4RbqwNm8veMNE12oWlRXvQEnfGNy no6biokzefe/lsE5Gzqh4BQauUPy9tzXFTUgMzhs= From: Dmitri Tikhonov Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QPACK: wrap absolute index values (#1657) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b740a04828f1_525d3fe5202d45c03848d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: dtikhonov X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2018 11:09:59 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b740a04828f1_525d3fe5202d45c03848d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, _the [TSS] instruction specifies the total number of dynamic table inserts and duplications **since the last** Table State Synchronize or Header Acknowledgement that increased the Largest Known Received dynamic table entry._ (Emphasis added). The _Largest Reference_, on the other hand, communicates the exact state (or position) in the dynamic table. Counting all the inserts will work, of course (modulo `MaxEntries * 2`), but it will defeat the purpose of the proposed change, as the encoded representation will now grow. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1657#issuecomment-413166216 ----==_mimepart_5b740a04828f1_525d3fe5202d45c03848d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yes, the [TSS] instruction specifies the total number of dynamic t= able inserts and duplications since the last Table State= Synchronize or Header Acknowledgement that increased the Largest Known R= eceived dynamic table entry. (Emphasis added).

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I'm fine with one ack per RTT, since that seems like a sensible minimum. If we say that, I don't see a need to say 0.5 seconds in transport.

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Fixes #1662

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  • Limit delayed ack timer to 1 RTT

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But that would mean you dynamically would need to set the time-out based on your RTT, e.g. kDelayedAckTimeout=min(smoothed_rtt,25)

Is that really what you want? It would make the ack delay at least less predictable for small RTTs...

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Should probably say
"... which ensures an ACK frame is sent at least once per RTT if new data was received in the last RTT."

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I think the goal for the transport doc is to define boundaries of reas= onable behavior, correct? If so, I no more than 1 ACK sent in response t= o a packet and at least 1 ACK per RTT are good boundaries.

I'd like the more detailed text to be in recovery, as I said above. T= here are some open issues to improve that text, including the one I refer= ence above.

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Yes, boundaries in transport, detailed text in recover. I just meant to say if the boundary is one ack per RTT, the detailed text in recover should say something like kDelayedAckTimeout=min(smoothed_rtt,25)

And I wanted to make sure that that is really what you want...?

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Thanks for clarifying. I think there are potentially two numbers. One = is what the sender is assuming the receiver is using and the other is the v= alue the receiver is using. I think the receiver should use the value you = suggest above with a min(), but I don't think the sender should assume that= , since one may have a substantially different value for SRTT than the othe= r.

I'm due to write a fair bit of text in the recovery doc about ACK behavi= or, so I'm happy to keep this issue open until that text includes mention o= f this "at least one ack per RTT behavior" and what the sender should and s= hould not assume?

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right, I think you only need to say that the sender should assume that to be a max. I guess there is anyway no problem is the ACK is sent faster...

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Fixes #1615

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This PR includes a bunch of small changes after a full review of the doc. Some are nits, many are mostly editorial or clarifications, but a few changes might be more than that. Please provide feedback!

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I guess it could still makes sense to also add a reference to the recovery draft there.

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This PR may be too large to land, but I'll leave that call to Martin. There are some good editorial fixes in here, so thanks for taking a pass at the draft. > protocol, including the conceptual design, wire format, and mechanisms of the QUIC protocol for connection establishment, stream multiplexing, stream and connection-level flow control, connection migration, and data reliability. -Accompanying documents describe QUIC's loss detection and congestion control -{{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, and the use of TLS 1.3 for key negotiation {{QUIC-TLS}}. +An accompanying document describes QUIC's loss detection and congestion control +{{QUIC-RECOVERY}}. As these are sender-side only mechanisms they can be changed I don't think the sentence "As these are sender-side..." is adding anything. Is there something you think is missing here? > @@ -182,7 +188,15 @@ QUIC packet: : A well-formed UDP payload that can be parsed by a QUIC receiver. -QUIC is a name, not an acronym. +0-RTT: + +: QUIC packets containing application payload data that are encrypted with Technically 0-RTT packets contain application data and some CRYPTO data, so I'd be inclined to just say "QUIC packets encrypted with a key derived from a previous QUIC connection to the same endpoint." > @@ -293,8 +307,8 @@ Long headers are used for packets that are sent prior to the completion of version negotiation and establishment of 1-RTT keys. Once both conditions are met, a sender switches to sending packets using the short header ({{short-header}}). The long form allows for special packets - such as the -Version Negotiation packet - to be represented in this uniform fixed-length -packet format. Packets that use the long header contain the following fields: +Version Negotiation packet - to be represented in this uniform packet format. It's actually weird to use version negotiation as an example here, because there's no packet number for version negotiation. And I think there's no length either? > @@ -380,7 +394,8 @@ covers the both the Packet Number and Payload fields, both of which are confidentiality protected and initially of unknown length. The size of the Payload field is learned once the packet number protection is removed. -Senders can sometimes coalesce multiple packets into one UDP datagram. See +The length field is used to enable senders to coalesce multiple long-header nit: "is used to enable" -> enables > @@ -466,16 +481,16 @@ Protected Payload: : Packets with a short header always include a 1-RTT protected payload. -The header form and connection ID field of a short header packet are -version-independent. The remaining fields are specific to the selected QUIC -version. See {{QUIC-INVARIANTS}} for details on how packets from different -versions of QUIC are interpreted. +The header form and connection ID field, if present, of a short header packet A 0-byte CID is always present and the extra clause makes this read more awkwardly, so I'd prefer keeping this as is. > @@ -889,23 +908,24 @@ Packets protected with 0-RTT keys use a type value of 0x7C. The connection ID fields for a 0-RTT packet MUST match the values used in the Initial packet ({{packet-initial}}). -The client can send 0-RTT packets after receiving an Initial -{{packet-initial}} or Handshake ({{packet-handshake}}) packet, if that +The client can send further 0-RTT packets after receiving an Initial I prefer it without further. If you want to add a word, I'd suggest "more" > packet does not complete the handshake. Even if the client receives a different connection ID in the Handshake packet, it MUST continue to use the same Destination Connection ID for 0-RTT packets, see {{connection-id-encoding}}. -The version field for protected packets is the current QUIC version. +The version field for protected packets contains the current QUIC version. I'm not sure this is correct? > The packet number field contains a packet number, which has additional confidentiality protection that is applied after packet protection is applied (see {{QUIC-TLS}} for details). The underlying packet number increases with each packet sent, see {{packet-numbers}} for details. -The payload is protected using authenticated encryption. {{QUIC-TLS}} describes -packet protection in detail. After decryption, the plaintext consists of a -sequence of frames, as described in {{frames}}. +The content of 0-RTT and 1-RTT packets is protected using authenticated I believe everything but INITIAL and RETRY are authenticated, so I think this change is not an improvement. > @@ -914,14 +934,13 @@ A sender can coalesce multiple QUIC packets (typically a Cryptographic Handshake packet and a Protected packet) into one UDP datagram. This can reduce the number of UDP datagrams needed to send application data during the handshake and immediately afterwards. It is not necessary for senders to coalesce -packets, though failing to do so will require sending a significantly -larger number of datagrams during the handshake. Receivers MUST -be able to process coalesced packets. +packets, though not doing it leads larger number of datagrams during the "though not doing so leads to a larger number of datagrams.." > @@ -1184,7 +1203,9 @@ endpoint cannot send a frame of a type that is unknown to its peer. An extension to QUIC that wishes to use a new type of frame MUST first ensure that a peer is able to understand the frame. An endpoint can use a transport parameter to signal its willingness to receive one or more extension frame types -with the one transport parameter. +with the one transport parameter. Otherwise it is assumed that enpoints have I'm not sure we want to imply or endorse the use of out of band negotiation, so I'd stick with the existing text. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

This PR may be too large to land, but I'll leave that call to Martin. There are some good editorial fixes in here, so thanks for taking a pass at the draft.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  protocol, including the conceptual design, wire format, and mechanisms of the
 QUIC protocol for connection establishment, stream multiplexing, stream and
 connection-level flow control, connection migration, and data reliability.
 
-Accompanying documents describe QUIC's loss detection and congestion control
-{{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, and the use of TLS 1.3 for key negotiation {{QUIC-TLS}}.
+An accompanying document describes QUIC's loss detection and congestion control
+{{QUIC-RECOVERY}}. As these are sender-side only mechanisms they can be changed

I don't think the sentence "As these are sender-side..." is adding anything. Is there something you think is missing here?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -182,7 +188,15 @@ QUIC packet:
 
 : A well-formed UDP payload that can be parsed by a QUIC receiver.
 
-QUIC is a name, not an acronym.
+0-RTT:
+
+: QUIC packets containing application payload data that are encrypted with

Technically 0-RTT packets contain application data and some CRYPTO data, so I'd be inclined to just say "QUIC packets encrypted with a key derived from a previous QUIC connection to the same endpoint."

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -293,8 +307,8 @@ Long headers are used for packets that are sent prior to the completion of
 version negotiation and establishment of 1-RTT keys. Once both conditions are
 met, a sender switches to sending packets using the short header
 ({{short-header}}).  The long form allows for special packets - such as the
-Version Negotiation packet - to be represented in this uniform fixed-length
-packet format. Packets that use the long header contain the following fields:
+Version Negotiation packet - to be represented in this uniform packet format.

It's actually weird to use version negotiation as an example here, because there's no packet number for version negotiation. And I think there's no length either?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -380,7 +394,8 @@ covers the both the Packet Number and Payload fields, both of which are
 confidentiality protected and initially of unknown length.  The size of the
 Payload field is learned once the packet number protection is removed.
 
-Senders can sometimes coalesce multiple packets into one UDP datagram.  See
+The length field is used to enable senders to coalesce multiple long-header

nit: "is used to enable" -> enables

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -466,16 +481,16 @@ Protected Payload:
 
 : Packets with a short header always include a 1-RTT protected payload.
 
-The header form and connection ID field of a short header packet are
-version-independent.  The remaining fields are specific to the selected QUIC
-version.  See {{QUIC-INVARIANTS}} for details on how packets from different
-versions of QUIC are interpreted.
+The header form and connection ID field, if present, of a short header packet

A 0-byte CID is always present and the extra clause makes this read more awkwardly, so I'd prefer keeping this as is.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -889,23 +908,24 @@ Packets protected with 0-RTT keys use a type value of 0x7C.  The connection ID
 fields for a 0-RTT packet MUST match the values used in the Initial packet
 ({{packet-initial}}).
 
-The client can send 0-RTT packets after receiving an Initial
-{{packet-initial}} or Handshake ({{packet-handshake}}) packet, if that
+The client can send further 0-RTT packets after receiving an Initial

I prefer it without further. If you want to add a word, I'd suggest "more"

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  packet does not complete the handshake.  Even if the client receives a
 different connection ID in the Handshake packet, it MUST continue to
 use the same Destination Connection ID for 0-RTT packets, see
 {{connection-id-encoding}}.
 
-The version field for protected packets is the current QUIC version.
+The version field for protected packets contains the current QUIC version.

I'm not sure this is correct?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 The packet number field contains a packet number, which has additional
 confidentiality protection that is applied after packet protection is applied
 (see {{QUIC-TLS}} for details).  The underlying packet number increases with
 each packet sent, see {{packet-numbers}} for details.
 
-The payload is protected using authenticated encryption.  {{QUIC-TLS}} describes
-packet protection in detail.  After decryption, the plaintext consists of a
-sequence of frames, as described in {{frames}}.
+The content of 0-RTT and 1-RTT packets is protected using authenticated

I believe everything but INITIAL and RETRY are authenticated, so I think this change is not an improvement.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -914,14 +934,13 @@ A sender can coalesce multiple QUIC packets (typically a Cryptographic Handshake
 packet and a Protected packet) into one UDP datagram.  This can reduce the
 number of UDP datagrams needed to send application data during the handshake and
 immediately afterwards. It is not necessary for senders to coalesce
-packets, though failing to do so will require sending a significantly
-larger number of datagrams during the handshake. Receivers MUST
-be able to process coalesced packets.
+packets, though not doing it leads larger number of datagrams during the

"though not doing so leads to a larger number of datagrams.."

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1184,7 +1203,9 @@ endpoint cannot send a frame of a type that is unknown to its peer.
 An extension to QUIC that wishes to use a new type of frame MUST first ensure
 that a peer is able to understand the frame.  An endpoint can use a transport
 parameter to signal its willingness to receive one or more extension frame types
-with the one transport parameter.
+with the one transport parameter. Otherwise it is assumed that enpoints have

I'm not sure we want to imply or endorse the use of out of band negotiation, so I'd stick with the existing text.

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Full review of the new text. Most changes look good to me. A couple changes I think are necessary though. > @@ -466,16 +481,16 @@ Protected Payload: : Packets with a short header always include a 1-RTT protected payload. -The header form and connection ID field of a short header packet are -version-independent. The remaining fields are specific to the selected QUIC -version. See {{QUIC-INVARIANTS}} for details on how packets from different -versions of QUIC are interpreted. +The header form and connection ID field, if present, of a short header packet +areversion-independent. The remaining fields are specific to the selected `areversion` -> `are version` > The packet number field contains a packet number, which has additional confidentiality protection that is applied after packet protection is applied (see {{QUIC-TLS}} for details). The underlying packet number increases with each packet sent, see {{packet-numbers}} for details. -The payload is protected using authenticated encryption. {{QUIC-TLS}} describes -packet protection in detail. After decryption, the plaintext consists of a -sequence of frames, as described in {{frames}}. +The content of 0-RTT and 1-RTT packets is protected using authenticated +encryption. {{QUIC-TLS}}vdescribes packet protection in detail. After `vdescribes` -> ` describes` > The packet number field contains a packet number, which has additional confidentiality protection that is applied after packet protection is applied (see {{QUIC-TLS}} for details). The underlying packet number increases with each packet sent, see {{packet-numbers}} for details. -The payload is protected using authenticated encryption. {{QUIC-TLS}} describes -packet protection in detail. After decryption, the plaintext consists of a -sequence of frames, as described in {{frames}}. +The content of 0-RTT and 1-RTT packets is protected using authenticated +encryption. {{QUIC-TLS}}vdescribes packet protection in detail. After +decryption, the plaintext consistsvof a sequence of frames, as described in `consistsvof` -> `consists of` > @@ -914,14 +934,13 @@ A sender can coalesce multiple QUIC packets (typically a Cryptographic Handshake packet and a Protected packet) into one UDP datagram. This can reduce the number of UDP datagrams needed to send application data during the handshake and immediately afterwards. It is not necessary for senders to coalesce -packets, though failing to do so will require sending a significantly -larger number of datagrams during the handshake. Receivers MUST -be able to process coalesced packets. +packets, though not doing it leads larger number of datagrams during the `leads larger number` -> `leads to larger number` > Senders SHOULD coalesce packets in order of increasing encryption levels (Initial, Handshake, 0-RTT, 1-RTT), as this makes it more likely the receiver will be able to process all the packets in a single pass. A packet with a short -header does not include a length, so it will always be the last packet included +header does not include a length, so it can only be the last packet included Personally, I think `will always` is better in this case. > @@ -996,7 +1014,7 @@ response to connection migration ({{migration}}). NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames The packet number is an integer in the range 0 to 2^62-1. The value is used in determining the cryptographic nonce for packet encryption. Each endpoint -maintains a separate packet number for sending and receiving. +maintains separate packet number spaces for sending and receiving. This should be reverted or at least modified more. Before, it was trying to say that packet numbers are different in each direction and should be tracked separately. Now, it's just talking about packet number spaces. It should probably say there are separate packet numbers in each direction, and they are tracked for each different packet number space. > @@ -1114,7 +1132,8 @@ Stateless Reset do not contain frames. Protected payloads MUST contain at least one frame, and MAY contain multiple frames and multiple frame types. -Frames MUST fit within a single QUIC packet and MUST NOT span a QUIC packet +Frames MUST fit within a single QUIC packet, and therefore within a single +UDP datagram, and MUST NOT span a QUIC packet boundary. Each frame begins with a Frame Type, indicating its type, followed by Fix up the following line wrapping, so this new line doesn't terminate so early. > @@ -1184,7 +1203,9 @@ endpoint cannot send a frame of a type that is unknown to its peer. An extension to QUIC that wishes to use a new type of frame MUST first ensure that a peer is able to understand the frame. An endpoint can use a transport parameter to signal its willingness to receive one or more extension frame types -with the one transport parameter. +with the one transport parameter. Otherwise it is assumed that enpoints have +knowledge about which (extension) frame types are supported by the otherwise, e.g. +through out of band negotiation. I'm confused about this additional text. It seems to suggest an entirely new notion of exchanging extension support knowledge out of band. I think this type of text should be in a different PR. > deployment-specific) method which will allow packets with that connection ID to be routed back to the endpoint and identified by the endpoint upon receipt. A zero-length connection ID MAY be used when the connection ID is not needed for -routing and the address/port tuple of packets is sufficient to associate them to -a connection. An endpoint whose peer has selected a zero-length connection ID -MUST continue to use a zero-length connection ID for the lifetime of the -connection and MUST NOT send packets from any other local address. +routing and the address/port tuple of packets is assumed to be sufficiently stable +to associate them to a connection. An endpoint whose peer has selected a +zero-length connection ID MUST continue to use a zero-length connection ID for the +lifetime of the connection and cannot send packets from any other local address +without breaking the connection. I don't think this text needs to be changed. I prefer how it was before. > Servers MUST drop incoming packets under all other circumstances. They SHOULD send a Stateless Reset ({{stateless-reset}}) if a connection ID is present in the header. ## Version Negotiation Version negotiation ensures that client and server agree to a QUIC version -that is mutually supported. A server sends a Version Negotiation packet in -response to each packet that might initiate a new connection, see +that is mutually supported independent of the implemented version. A server Should there be a comma after `mutually supported`? > @@ -1578,20 +1599,26 @@ language from Section 3 of {{!TLS13=I-D.ietf-tls-tls13}}. The `extension_data` field of the quic_transport_parameters extension defined in {{QUIC-TLS}} contains a TransportParameters value. TLS encoding rules are -therefore used to encode the transport parameters. +therefore used to encode the transport parameters. As show in `As show` -> `As shown` > QUIC encodes transport parameters into a sequence of octets, which are then included in the cryptographic handshake. Once the handshake completes, the transport parameters declared by the peer are available. Each endpoint validates the value provided by its peer. In particular, version negotiation MUST be validated (see {{version-validation}}) before the connection -establishment is considered properly complete. +establishment is considered properly complete. Each transport parameter consists +of an 2-byte parameter ID and an optional parameter value. And a length, right? > @@ -1661,7 +1688,7 @@ disable_migration (0x0009): : The endpoint does not support connection migration ({{migration}}). Peers MUST NOT send any packets, including probing packets ({{probing}}), from a local address other than that used to perform the handshake. This parameter is a - zero-length value. + zero-length value. Values other than 0 and 1 are invalid. There is no 'value' in the case. It's zero-length. > An endpoint enters a closing period after initiating an immediate close -({{immediate-close}}). While closing, an endpoint MUST NOT send packets unless -they contain a CONNECTION_CLOSE or APPLICATION_CLOSE frame (see -{{immediate-close}} for details). +({{immediate-close}}). In the closing period, an endpoint MUST NOT send I think `During the closing period` sounds better than `In the closing period`. > An endpoint enters a closing period after initiating an immediate close -({{immediate-close}}). While closing, an endpoint MUST NOT send packets unless -they contain a CONNECTION_CLOSE or APPLICATION_CLOSE frame (see -{{immediate-close}} for details). +({{immediate-close}}). In the closing period, an endpoint MUST NOT send +packets unless they only contain a CONNECTION_CLOSE or APPLICATION_CLOSE frame I disagree with the addition of the word `only` here. > @@ -2773,7 +2812,7 @@ encoding. The PADDING frame (type=0x00) has no semantic value. PADDING frames can be used to increase the size of a packet. Padding can be used to increase an initial client packet to the minimum required size, or to provide protection against -traffic analysis for protected packets. +traffic analysis for protected packets. PADDING frames need to be acknowleged. Frames are not acknowledged. Packets are. I don't think this text is needed either way. All packets are acknowledged. > @@ -3415,7 +3454,10 @@ acknowledged again. Because ACK frames are not sent in response to ACK-only packets, a receiver that is only sending ACK frames will only receive acknowledgements for its packets if the sender includes them in packets with non-ACK frames. A sender SHOULD -bundle ACK frames with other frames when possible. +bundle ACK frames with other frames when possible. A receiver that would only +send ACK frames therefore can trigger an ACK from the sender by sending a +frames that needs to be acknowledged. Knowing which ACKs have been received Again, frames aren't acknowledged. > @@ -3808,7 +3852,8 @@ containing that information is acknowledged. * A liveness or path validation check using PATH_CHALLENGE frames is sent periodically until a matching PATH_RESPONSE frame is received or until there is no remaining need for liveness or path validation checking. PATH_CHALLENGE - frames include a different payload each time they are sent. + frames include a different payload each time they are sent and are therefore + not-retransmittable. You cannot retransmit the exact same PATH_CHALLENGE frames? That is change from my previous understanding. > + | Create Bidirectional Stream (Sending) + | Recv MAX_STREAM_DATA + | Create Higher-Numbered Stream + v + +-------+ Send STOP_SENDING + .-| |-------------------------------. +Send | | Recv | | + MAX_STREAM_SIZE '>| | Recv RST_STREAM | + +-------+-----------------------. | + | | | + | Recv STREAM + FIN | | + v | v + +-------+ | +-------+ + | Size | | | Wait | + | Known + Recv RST_STREAM | | STOP | + +-------+---------------------->| +-------+ What is this `Wait STOP` state? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1665#pullrequestreview-146517164 ----==_mimepart_5b745c8e14d75_7e123f9d500d45bc349337 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@nibanks requested changes on this pull request.

Full review of the new text. Most changes look good to me. A couple changes I think are necessary though.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -466,16 +481,16 @@ Protected Payload:
 
 : Packets with a short header always include a 1-RTT protected payload.
 
-The header form and connection ID field of a short header packet are
-version-independent.  The remaining fields are specific to the selected QUIC
-version.  See {{QUIC-INVARIANTS}} for details on how packets from different
-versions of QUIC are interpreted.
+The header form and connection ID field, if present, of a short header packet
+areversion-independent.  The remaining fields are specific to the selected

areversion -> are version

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 The packet number field contains a packet number, which has additional
 confidentiality protection that is applied after packet protection is applied
 (see {{QUIC-TLS}} for details).  The underlying packet number increases with
 each packet sent, see {{packet-numbers}} for details.
 
-The payload is protected using authenticated encryption.  {{QUIC-TLS}} describes
-packet protection in detail.  After decryption, the plaintext consists of a
-sequence of frames, as described in {{frames}}.
+The content of 0-RTT and 1-RTT packets is protected using authenticated
+encryption. {{QUIC-TLS}}vdescribes packet protection in detail.  After

vdescribes -> describes

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 The packet number field contains a packet number, which has additional
 confidentiality protection that is applied after packet protection is applied
 (see {{QUIC-TLS}} for details).  The underlying packet number increases with
 each packet sent, see {{packet-numbers}} for details.
 
-The payload is protected using authenticated encryption.  {{QUIC-TLS}} describes
-packet protection in detail.  After decryption, the plaintext consists of a
-sequence of frames, as described in {{frames}}.
+The content of 0-RTT and 1-RTT packets is protected using authenticated
+encryption. {{QUIC-TLS}}vdescribes packet protection in detail.  After
+decryption, the plaintext consistsvof a sequence of frames, as described in

consistsvof -> consists of

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -914,14 +934,13 @@ A sender can coalesce multiple QUIC packets (typically a Cryptographic Handshake
 packet and a Protected packet) into one UDP datagram.  This can reduce the
 number of UDP datagrams needed to send application data during the handshake and
 immediately afterwards. It is not necessary for senders to coalesce
-packets, though failing to do so will require sending a significantly
-larger number of datagrams during the handshake. Receivers MUST
-be able to process coalesced packets.
+packets, though not doing it leads larger number of datagrams during the

leads larger number -> leads to larger number

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 Senders SHOULD coalesce packets in order of increasing encryption levels
 (Initial, Handshake, 0-RTT, 1-RTT), as this makes it more likely the receiver
 will be able to process all the packets in a single pass.  A packet with a short
-header does not include a length, so it will always be the last packet included
+header does not include a length, so it can only be the last packet included

Personally, I think will always is better in this case.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -996,7 +1014,7 @@ response to connection migration ({{migration}}). NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames
 
 The packet number is an integer in the range 0 to 2^62-1. The value is used in
 determining the cryptographic nonce for packet encryption.  Each endpoint
-maintains a separate packet number for sending and receiving.
+maintains separate packet number spaces for sending and receiving.

This should be reverted or at least modified more. Before, it was trying to say that packet numbers are different in each direction and should be tracked separately. Now, it's just talking about packet number spaces. It should probably say there are separate packet numbers in each direction, and they are tracked for each different packet number space.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1114,7 +1132,8 @@ Stateless Reset do not contain frames.
 Protected payloads MUST contain at least one frame, and MAY contain multiple
 frames and multiple frame types.
 
-Frames MUST fit within a single QUIC packet and MUST NOT span a QUIC packet
+Frames MUST fit within a single QUIC packet, and therefore within a single
+UDP datagram, and MUST NOT span a QUIC packet
 boundary. Each frame begins with a Frame Type, indicating its type, followed by

Fix up the following line wrapping, so this new line doesn't terminate so early.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1184,7 +1203,9 @@ endpoint cannot send a frame of a type that is unknown to its peer.
 An extension to QUIC that wishes to use a new type of frame MUST first ensure
 that a peer is able to understand the frame.  An endpoint can use a transport
 parameter to signal its willingness to receive one or more extension frame types
-with the one transport parameter.
+with the one transport parameter. Otherwise it is assumed that enpoints have
+knowledge about which (extension) frame types are supported by the otherwise, e.g.
+through out of band negotiation.

I'm confused about this additional text. It seems to suggest an entirely new notion of exchanging extension support knowledge out of band. I think this type of text should be in a different PR.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  deployment-specific) method which will allow packets with that connection ID to
 be routed back to the endpoint and identified by the endpoint upon receipt.
 
 A zero-length connection ID MAY be used when the connection ID is not needed for
-routing and the address/port tuple of packets is sufficient to associate them to
-a connection. An endpoint whose peer has selected a zero-length connection ID
-MUST continue to use a zero-length connection ID for the lifetime of the
-connection and MUST NOT send packets from any other local address.
+routing and the address/port tuple of packets is assumed to be sufficiently stable
+to associate them to a connection. An endpoint whose peer has selected a
+zero-length connection ID MUST continue to use a zero-length connection ID for the
+lifetime of the connection and cannot send packets from any other local address
+without breaking the connection.

I don't think this text needs to be changed. I prefer how it was before.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  Servers MUST drop incoming packets under all other circumstances. They
 SHOULD send a Stateless Reset ({{stateless-reset}}) if a connection ID
 is present in the header.
 
 ## Version Negotiation
 
 Version negotiation ensures that client and server agree to a QUIC version
-that is mutually supported. A server sends a Version Negotiation packet in
-response to each packet that might initiate a new connection, see
+that is mutually supported independent of the implemented version. A server

Should there be a comma after mutually supported?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1578,20 +1599,26 @@ language from Section 3 of {{!TLS13=I-D.ietf-tls-tls13}}.
 
 The `extension_data` field of the quic_transport_parameters extension defined in
 {{QUIC-TLS}} contains a TransportParameters value.  TLS encoding rules are
-therefore used to encode the transport parameters.
+therefore used to encode the transport parameters. As show in

As show -> As shown

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 QUIC encodes transport parameters into a sequence of octets, which are then
 included in the cryptographic handshake.  Once the handshake completes, the
 transport parameters declared by the peer are available.  Each endpoint
 validates the value provided by its peer.  In particular, version negotiation
 MUST be validated (see {{version-validation}}) before the connection
-establishment is considered properly complete.
+establishment is considered properly complete. Each transport parameter consists
+of an 2-byte parameter ID and an optional parameter value.

And a length, right?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1661,7 +1688,7 @@ disable_migration (0x0009):
 : The endpoint does not support connection migration ({{migration}}). Peers MUST
   NOT send any packets, including probing packets ({{probing}}), from a local
   address other than that used to perform the handshake.  This parameter is a
-  zero-length value.
+  zero-length value. Values other than 0 and 1 are invalid.

There is no 'value' in the case. It's zero-length.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 An endpoint enters a closing period after initiating an immediate close
-({{immediate-close}}).  While closing, an endpoint MUST NOT send packets unless
-they contain a CONNECTION_CLOSE or APPLICATION_CLOSE frame (see
-{{immediate-close}} for details).
+({{immediate-close}}).  In the closing period, an endpoint MUST NOT send

I think During the closing period sounds better than In the closing period.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 An endpoint enters a closing period after initiating an immediate close
-({{immediate-close}}).  While closing, an endpoint MUST NOT send packets unless
-they contain a CONNECTION_CLOSE or APPLICATION_CLOSE frame (see
-{{immediate-close}} for details).
+({{immediate-close}}).  In the closing period, an endpoint MUST NOT send
+packets unless they only contain a CONNECTION_CLOSE or APPLICATION_CLOSE frame

I disagree with the addition of the word only here.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2773,7 +2812,7 @@ encoding.
 The PADDING frame (type=0x00) has no semantic value.  PADDING frames can be used
 to increase the size of a packet.  Padding can be used to increase an initial
 client packet to the minimum required size, or to provide protection against
-traffic analysis for protected packets.
+traffic analysis for protected packets. PADDING frames need to be acknowleged.

Frames are not acknowledged. Packets are. I don't think this text is needed either way. All packets are acknowledged.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3415,7 +3454,10 @@ acknowledged again.
 Because ACK frames are not sent in response to ACK-only packets, a receiver that
 is only sending ACK frames will only receive acknowledgements for its packets
 if the sender includes them in packets with non-ACK frames.  A sender SHOULD
-bundle ACK frames with other frames when possible.
+bundle ACK frames with other frames when possible. A receiver that would only
+send ACK frames therefore can trigger an ACK from the sender by sending a
+frames that needs to be acknowledged. Knowing which ACKs have been received

Again, frames aren't acknowledged.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3808,7 +3852,8 @@ containing that information is acknowledged.
 * A liveness or path validation check using PATH_CHALLENGE frames is sent
   periodically until a matching PATH_RESPONSE frame is received or until there
   is no remaining need for liveness or path validation checking. PATH_CHALLENGE
-  frames include a different payload each time they are sent.
+  frames include a different payload each time they are sent and are therefore
+  not-retransmittable.

You cannot retransmit the exact same PATH_CHALLENGE frames? That is change from my previous understanding.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +                       | Create Bidirectional Stream (Sending)
+                       | Recv MAX_STREAM_DATA
+                       | Create Higher-Numbered Stream
+                       v
+                   +-------+ Send STOP_SENDING
+                 .-|       |-------------------------------.
+Send             | | Recv  |                               |
+ MAX_STREAM_SIZE '>|       | Recv RST_STREAM               |
+                   +-------+-----------------------.       |
+                       |                           |       |
+                       | Recv STREAM + FIN         |       |
+                       v                           |       v
+                   +-------+                       |   +-------+
+                   | Size  |                       |   | Wait  |
+                   | Known + Recv RST_STREAM       |   | STOP  |
+                   +-------+---------------------->|   +-------+

What is this Wait STOP state?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  packet does not complete the handshake.  =
Even if the client receives a
 different connection ID in the Handshake packet, it MUST continue to
 use the same Destination Connection ID for 0-RTT packets, see
 {{connection-id-encoding}}.
 =

-The version field for protected packets is the current QUIC version.
+The version field for protected packets contains the current QUIC versio=
n.

I think it is. The version field =E2=80=A6 contains the

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Packet handling text talks about "Initial packets in any version supported by the server." However, there's no guarantee that those versions will have a packet named Initial. This should continue to use the language of "could potentially create a new connection."

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We have text from a long-ago issue that says:

A packet MUST NOT be acknowledged until packet protection has been successfully removed and all frames contained in the packet have been processed. Any stream state transitions triggered by the frame MUST have occurred.

Since the move to MAX_STREAM_ID and the updated stream state machine, implementations no longer need to track the stream state transitions on the peer, only locally. Do we still need this requirement?

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MikeBishop requested changes on this pull request. Quite a mixed bag. You hit on a few places where there are useful improv= ements to make. However, several of the changes seem to add text unneces= sarily, and a few really ought to be separate PRs. > protocol, including the conceptual design, wire format, and mechanisms= of the QUIC protocol for connection establishment, stream multiplexing, stream = and connection-level flow control, connection migration, and data reliabilit= y. = -Accompanying documents describe QUIC's loss detection and congestion con= trol -{{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, and the use of TLS 1.3 for key negotiation {{QUIC-TLS= }}. +An accompanying document describes QUIC's loss detection and congestion = control +{{QUIC-RECOVERY}}. As these are sender-side only mechanisms they can be = changed I think the point of that sentence is that the endpoints don't both need = to be following that RFC for it to be this version of QUIC. It's a legit= imate comment, though I might frame it differently.=0D =0D "Each implementation of QUIC will unilaterally select a loss detection an= d congestion control strategy. A recommended approach is described in {{= QUIC-RECOVERY}}." > protocol, including the conceptual design, wire format, and mechanisms= of the QUIC protocol for connection establishment, stream multiplexing, stream = and connection-level flow control, connection migration, and data reliabilit= y. = -Accompanying documents describe QUIC's loss detection and congestion con= trol -{{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, and the use of TLS 1.3 for key negotiation {{QUIC-TLS= }}. +An accompanying document describes QUIC's loss detection and congestion = control +{{QUIC-RECOVERY}}. As these are sender-side only mechanisms they can be = changed +without negotiating a new QUIC version. This document specifies version +0x00000001 of QUIC which uses TLS1.3 for key negotiation as described in= Dropped a space ("TLS 1.3"). > = +QUIC is a name, not an acronym. The consensus before was to put this in the definitions section. It feel= s out-of-place here. > = -QUIC version 1 conforms to the protocol invariants in {{QUIC-INVARIANTS}= }. +All versions of QUIC MUST conform to the protocol invariants in +{{QUIC-INVARIANTS}}. No, this isn't a normative requirement. You could say that "All versions= of QUIC conform....", purely for the reader's information. > @@ -293,8 +307,8 @@ Long headers are used for packets that are sent pri= or to the completion of version negotiation and establishment of 1-RTT keys. Once both condition= s are met, a sender switches to sending packets using the short header ({{short-header}}). The long form allows for special packets - such as = the -Version Negotiation packet - to be represented in this uniform fixed-len= gth -packet format. Packets that use the long header contain the following fi= elds: +Version Negotiation packet - to be represented in this uniform packet fo= rmat. No, there's not. I don't think this bears on @mirjak's change itself, bu= t we should update this paragraph. > @@ -380,7 +394,8 @@ covers the both the Packet Number and Payload field= s, both of which are confidentiality protected and initially of unknown length. The size of = the Payload field is learned once the packet number protection is removed. = -Senders can sometimes coalesce multiple packets into one UDP datagram. = See +The length field is used to enable senders to coalesce multiple long-hea= der I think "multiple packets" was fine. The section being referenced has th= e details about what combinations will actually work. > @@ -736,11 +751,11 @@ the Source Connection ID includes the connection = ID that the sender of the packet wishes to use (see {{connection-id}}). The server MUST use consis= tent Source Connection IDs during the handshake. = -On first receiving an Initial or Retry packet from the server, the clien= t uses -the Source Connection ID supplied by the server as the Destination Conne= ction ID -for subsequent packets. Once a client has received an Initial packet fr= om the -server, it MUST discard any packet it receives with a different Source -Connection ID. +On first receiving an Initial or Retry packet from the server, the clien= t MUST While not inaccurate, is there a reason to make this change? This is a s= tatement of how the protocol works, which still describes the correct beh= avior. > @@ -842,18 +857,21 @@ used to carry acknowledgments and cryptographic h= andshake messages from the server and client. = A server sends its cryptographic handshake in one or more Handshake pack= ets in -response to an Initial packet if it does not send a Retry packet. Once = a client -has received a Handshake packet from a server, it uses Handshake packets= to send -subsequent cryptographic handshake messages and acknowledgments to the s= erver. +response to an Initial packet (in addition to the server Initial packet)= if it This parenthetical doesn't seem to add anything. The server *does* send = an Initial packet, true, but it's not related to how the cryptographic ha= ndshake is carried. > = The Destination Connection ID field in a Handshake packet contains a con= nection -ID that is chosen by the recipient of the packet; the Source Connection = ID -includes the connection ID that the sender of the packet wishes to use (= see -{{connection-id-encoding}}). +ID that is chosen by the other endpoint of this connection as indicated = in +Source Connection ID field of the previously received Initial packet fro= m that +endpoint; the Source Connection ID includes the connection ID that the +sender of the packet wishes to use (see {{connection-id-encoding}}). The added text makes this less readable. I'd revert this paragraph. > = The first Handshake packet sent by a server contains a packet number of = 0. -Handshake packets are their own packet number space. Packet numbers are= -incremented normally for other Handshake packets. +Handshake packets are their own packet number space. See section +{{packet-numbers}} on packet number spaces. Packet numbers are increment= ed "See X on Y" feels awkward to me. Also, this will produce "section Secti= on a.b.c" when compiled. I'd make this a parenthetical and either shorte= n this all the way:=0D =0D ...are their own packet number space. (See {{packet-numbers}}.) Pack= et numbers are....=0D =0D ...or expand it:=0D =0D (See {{packet numbers}} for more information on packet number spaces.= ) > @@ -873,7 +891,8 @@ static handshake keys or the 0-RTT keys are sent wi= th long headers; all packets protected with 1-RTT keys are sent with short headers. The different pa= cket types explicitly indicate the encryption level and therefore the keys th= at are used to remove packet protection. 0-RTT and 1-RTT protected packets sha= re a -single packet number space. +single packet number space. Initial and Handshake packets both have thei= r own both =3D> each; perhaps combine these: "...single packet number space, w= hile Initial and Handshake packets each...." > @@ -889,23 +908,24 @@ Packets protected with 0-RTT keys use a type valu= e of 0x7C. The connection ID fields for a 0-RTT packet MUST match the values used in the Initial pack= et ({{packet-initial}}). = -The client can send 0-RTT packets after receiving an Initial -{{packet-initial}} or Handshake ({{packet-handshake}}) packet, if that +The client can send further 0-RTT packets after receiving an Initial or "additional", or "can continue sending" > packet does not complete the handshake. Even if the client receives a= different connection ID in the Handshake packet, it MUST continue to use the same Destination Connection ID for 0-RTT packets, see {{connection-id-encoding}}. = -The version field for protected packets is the current QUIC version. +The version field for protected packets contains the current QUIC versio= n. No, because "protected" packets includes short-header packets, which don'= t have a version field. This inverts the original meaning, which is that= whenever a version field is present, it always indicates this version. > = The packet number field contains a packet number, which has additional confidentiality protection that is applied after packet protection is ap= plied (see {{QUIC-TLS}} for details). The underlying packet number increases = with each packet sent, see {{packet-numbers}} for details. = -The payload is protected using authenticated encryption. {{QUIC-TLS}} d= escribes -packet protection in detail. After decryption, the plaintext consists o= f a -sequence of frames, as described in {{frames}}. +The content of 0-RTT and 1-RTT packets is protected using authenticated Why the switch from "payload" as used elsewhere to "content"? The payloa= d of each protected packet is protected with authenticated encryption. T= hat's true of Initial and Handshake as well, though the Initial key is no= t secret enough to put much faith in the authentication. > @@ -1114,7 +1132,8 @@ Stateless Reset do not contain frames. Protected payloads MUST contain at least one frame, and MAY contain mult= iple frames and multiple frame types. = -Frames MUST fit within a single QUIC packet and MUST NOT span a QUIC pac= ket +Frames MUST fit within a single QUIC packet, and therefore within a sing= le +UDP datagram, and MUST NOT span a QUIC packet boundary. Each frame begins with a Frame Type, indicating its type, foll= owed by If you're touching this section, I feel like these MUSTs are excessive. = It's not that it's prohibited, it's that there's no mechanism for doing s= o. Packets contain sequences of whole frames and cannot span datagrams. = Therefore, frames also cannot span packets. > @@ -1184,7 +1203,9 @@ endpoint cannot send a frame of a type that is un= known to its peer. An extension to QUIC that wishes to use a new type of frame MUST first e= nsure that a peer is able to understand the frame. An endpoint can use a tran= sport parameter to signal its willingness to receive one or more extension fra= me types -with the one transport parameter. +with the one transport parameter. Otherwise it is assumed that enpoints = have Agreed -- revert. > @@ -1207,18 +1228,21 @@ distinguish it from other connections. A conne= ction ID can be either 0 octets in length, or between 4 and 18 octets (inclusive). Connection IDs are s= elected independently in each direction. = -The primary function of a connection ID is to ensure that changes in add= ressing -at lower protocol layers (UDP, IP, and below) don't cause packets for a = QUIC -connection to be delivered to the wrong endpoint. Each endpoint selects= -connection IDs using an implementation-specific (and perhaps +The primary function of a connection ID is to ensure packets can still b= e +assotiated with the right connection at the receiver if changes in sende= r associated with the correct connection > @@ -1207,18 +1228,21 @@ distinguish it from other connections. A conne= ction ID can be either 0 octets in length, or between 4 and 18 octets (inclusive). Connection IDs are s= elected independently in each direction. = -The primary function of a connection ID is to ensure that changes in add= ressing -at lower protocol layers (UDP, IP, and below) don't cause packets for a = QUIC -connection to be delivered to the wrong endpoint. Each endpoint selects= -connection IDs using an implementation-specific (and perhaps +The primary function of a connection ID is to ensure packets can still b= e +assotiated with the right connection at the receiver if changes in sende= r +addressing at lower protocol layers (UDP, IP, and below) occur. The Conn= ection ID +is visibe to the path to also enable the network to deliver packets for = a QUIC "visible... to ~also~ enable"; perhaps fold the path and load-balancer co= mments together and just say "to enable load balancers to deliver packets= for a QUIC connection to the correct endpoint despite address changes." > @@ -1303,34 +1327,34 @@ the packet. Servers SHOULD NOT attempt to deco= de or decrypt a packet from an unknown version, but instead send a Version Negotiation packet, provided= that the packet is sufficiently long. = -Servers MUST drop other packets that contain unsupported versions. +Servers MUST drop packets without sending a Version Negotiation packet w= hen the +received packet contains unsupported versions and is too small +to be an Initial packet for some version supported by the server. "Initial packet" is a version-specific concept. "...and is too small to = create a new connection in any version supported by the server." However= , I see this in the old text too, so I'll file a separate issue.=0D =0D A packet can't contain multiple versions, so "when the received packet in= dicates an unsupported version". (I probably would have reworded the old= text as well, but multiple versions in multiple packets is somewhat okay= .) > = -Packets with a supported version, or no version field, are matched to -a connection as described in {{packet-handling}}. If not matched, the -server continues below. What was the rationale for moving this text below processing of unmatched= packets from a new connection? You only want to do the Initial/0-RTT ch= ecks if a packet is unmatched. > = -If a server isn't currently accepting any new connections, it SHOULD sen= d a -Handshake packet containing a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame with error code -SERVER_BUSY. - -If the packet is a 0-RTT packet, the server MAY buffer a limited -number of these packets in anticipation of a late-arriving Initial -Packet. Clients are forbidden from sending Handshake packets prior to +If the packet is a 0-RTT packet with a supported version number, the ser= ver MAY If you've reached this point in the flow, it has a supported version. Un= supported versions, regardless of packet type, have already been rejected= or dropped. > Servers MUST drop incoming packets under all other circumstances. They= SHOULD send a Stateless Reset ({{stateless-reset}}) if a connection ID is present in the header. = ## Version Negotiation = Version negotiation ensures that client and server agree to a QUIC versi= on -that is mutually supported. A server sends a Version Negotiation packet = in -response to each packet that might initiate a new connection, see +that is mutually supported independent of the implemented version. A ser= ver +can send a Version Negotiation packet in response to each packet that mi= ght +initiate a new connection and is sufficiently large, see also - Looks like Martin slipped a comma splice by me. =F0=9F=98=89 This shou= ld be a semicolon instead.=0D - I don't think the addition of "also" adds anything here.=0D - The change from "sends" to "can send" is probably okay, but it implies = a slightly different behavior on the part of servers than we'd previously= discussed. > @@ -1363,12 +1387,8 @@ selects an acceptable protocol version from the = list provided by the server. The client then attempts to create a connection using that version. Tho= ugh the contents of the Initial packet the client sends might not change in response to version negotiation, a client MUST increase the packet numbe= r it -uses on every packet it sends. Packets MUST continue to use long header= s and -MUST include the new negotiated protocol version. - -The client MUST use the long header format and include its selected vers= ion on -all packets until it has 1-RTT keys and it has received a packet from th= e server -which is not a Version Negotiation packet. +uses on every packet it sends. The client MUST use the long header forma= t and +include its selected version on all packets until it has 1-RTT keys. For context, before we'd agreed that version implied handshake protocol, = we said that the requirement for switching to short-header was the comple= tion of both version negotiation *and* 1-RTT key availability, and this t= ext reflects that. (Consider a handshake protocol where there's a shared= dictionary of static keys that gets rotated periodically, and the only m= essage prior to 1-RTT is the client's unilateral declaration "I'm using k= ey A1B2C3 from your key table." The client can then send "1-RTT" short-h= eader packets on its first flight.)=0D =0D However, in the current version (which this is describing), version negot= iation always completes prior to 1-RTT key establishment, so this is prob= ably okay. > a 1232 octet QUIC packet payload. This includes overheads that reduce= the space available to the cryptographic handshake protocol. = -The CRYPTO frame can be sent in different packet number spaces. CRYPTO = frames +The CRYPTO frames can be sent in different packet number spaces. CRYPTO= frames I'd do "CRYPTO frames" or the original text. > @@ -1578,20 +1599,26 @@ language from Section 3 of {{!TLS13=3DI-D.ietf-= tls-tls13}}. = The `extension_data` field of the quic_transport_parameters extension de= fined in {{QUIC-TLS}} contains a TransportParameters value. TLS encoding rules a= re -therefore used to encode the transport parameters. +therefore used to encode the transport parameters. As show in +{{figure-transport-parameters}} TransportParameters consists of either a= n Comma after the figure reference. > = QUIC encodes transport parameters into a sequence of octets, which are t= hen included in the cryptographic handshake. Once the handshake completes, = the transport parameters declared by the peer are available. Each endpoint validates the value provided by its peer. In particular, version negoti= ation MUST be validated (see {{version-validation}}) before the connection -establishment is considered properly complete. +establishment is considered properly complete. Each transport parameter = consists +of an 2-byte parameter ID and an optional parameter value. The value isn't optional -- it's length-prefixed, and the length might be= zero. > @@ -1661,7 +1688,7 @@ disable_migration (0x0009): : The endpoint does not support connection migration ({{migration}}). Pe= ers MUST NOT send any packets, including probing packets ({{probing}}), from a = local address other than that used to perform the handshake. This parameter= is a - zero-length value. + zero-length value. Values other than 0 and 1 are invalid. How would the value be 0 *or* 1 if its length is zero? > @@ -1719,11 +1746,11 @@ type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR. ### Values of Transport Parameters for 0-RTT {#zerortt-parameters} = A client that attempts to send 0-RTT data MUST remember the transport pa= rameters -used by the server. The transport parameters that the server advertises= during -connection establishment apply to all connections that are resumed using= the -keying material established during that handshake. Remembered transport= -parameters apply to the new connection until the handshake completes and= new -transport parameters from the server can be provided. +provided by the server in the initial handshake. The transport paramete= rs that "initial handshake" might be unclear, given that previous session might a= lso have been a resumption. Perhaps "previous" instead? > @@ -1757,27 +1784,28 @@ for transport parameters cannot be supported. = ### New Transport Parameters = -New transport parameters can be used to negotiate new protocol behavior.= An -endpoint MUST ignore transport parameters that it does not support. Abs= ence of -a transport parameter therefore disables any optional protocol feature t= hat is -negotiated using the parameter. +New transport parameters can be used by the client to negotiate new prot= ocol I think you're identifying a distinction here between "negotiate" and "ad= vertise" which is potentially useful, but I'm not sure the text you've wr= itten makes good use of that distinction.=0D =0D Some extensions need only be advertised: "I support this feature; if you= do too, feel free to use it." Actual changes to existing protocol behav= ior require confirmation, which can be accomplished by advertisements fro= m both sides. Choices between multiple options require true negotiation,= where the client offers a set of choices and the server picks one (or no= ne).=0D =0D Only clients can begin a negotiation for breaking protocol changes, but e= ither side can unilaterally advertise support for non-breaking optional f= eatures. > @@ -1757,27 +1784,28 @@ for transport parameters cannot be supported. = ### New Transport Parameters = -New transport parameters can be used to negotiate new protocol behavior.= An -endpoint MUST ignore transport parameters that it does not support. Abs= ence of -a transport parameter therefore disables any optional protocol feature t= hat is -negotiated using the parameter. +New transport parameters can be used by the client to negotiate new prot= ocol +behavior. An endpoint MUST ignore transport parameters that it does not= support. +Absence of a transport parameter as provided by the server therefore dis= ables +any optional protocol feature that is negotiated using the parameter. A = server +cannot negotiation new features but can indicate the support of a new fe= ature "negotiate" > @@ -1757,27 +1784,28 @@ for transport parameters cannot be supported. = ### New Transport Parameters = -New transport parameters can be used to negotiate new protocol behavior.= An -endpoint MUST ignore transport parameters that it does not support. Abs= ence of -a transport parameter therefore disables any optional protocol feature t= hat is -negotiated using the parameter. +New transport parameters can be used by the client to negotiate new prot= ocol +behavior. An endpoint MUST ignore transport parameters that it does not= support. +Absence of a transport parameter as provided by the server therefore dis= ables +any optional protocol feature that is negotiated using the parameter. A = server +cannot negotiation new features but can indicate the support of a new fe= ature +that is ready to be used by the client. Howeverm it cannot assume that t= he client However**,** > @@ -1757,27 +1784,28 @@ for transport parameters cannot be supported. = ### New Transport Parameters = -New transport parameters can be used to negotiate new protocol behavior.= An -endpoint MUST ignore transport parameters that it does not support. Abs= ence of -a transport parameter therefore disables any optional protocol feature t= hat is -negotiated using the parameter. +New transport parameters can be used by the client to negotiate new prot= ocol +behavior. An endpoint MUST ignore transport parameters that it does not= support. +Absence of a transport parameter as provided by the server therefore dis= ables +any optional protocol feature that is negotiated using the parameter. A = server +cannot negotiation new features but can indicate the support of a new fe= ature +that is ready to be used by the client. Howeverm it cannot assume that t= he client +understand the parameter and is ready to use that feature. "understand**s** ... and will use that feature." > = New transport parameters can be registered according to the rules in {{iana-transport-parameters}}. = = ### Version Negotiation Validation {#version-validation} = -Though the cryptographic handshake has integrity protection, two forms o= f QUIC -version downgrade are possible. In the first, an attacker replaces the = QUIC -version in the Initial packet. In the second, a fake Version Negotiatio= n packet -is sent by an attacker. To protect against these attacks, the transport= -parameters include three fields that encode version information. These -parameters are used to retroactively authenticate the choice of version = (see -{{version-negotiation}}). - -The cryptographic handshake provides integrity protection for the negoti= ated -version as part of the transport parameters (see {{transport-parameters}= }). As +Theoretically, two forms of QUIC version downgrade are possible. In the= first, Why "theoretically"? Are they not actually possible? > = New transport parameters can be registered according to the rules in {{iana-transport-parameters}}. = = ### Version Negotiation Validation {#version-validation} = -Though the cryptographic handshake has integrity protection, two forms o= f QUIC -version downgrade are possible. In the first, an attacker replaces the = QUIC -version in the Initial packet. In the second, a fake Version Negotiatio= n packet -is sent by an attacker. To protect against these attacks, the transport= -parameters include three fields that encode version information. These -parameters are used to retroactively authenticate the choice of version = (see -{{version-negotiation}}). - -The cryptographic handshake provides integrity protection for the negoti= ated -version as part of the transport parameters (see {{transport-parameters}= }). As +Theoretically, two forms of QUIC version downgrade are possible. In the= first, +an attacker replaces the QUIC version in the Initial packet. In the sec= ond, +a fake Version Negotiation packet is sent by an attacker. To protect ag= ainst +these attacks, the cryptographic handshake provides integrity protection= for +the negotiated version as part of the transport parameters. As described= in This is somewhat different from what I would have understood from integri= ty protection. Perhaps "reconfirms"? > -Though the cryptographic handshake has integrity protection, two forms= of QUIC -version downgrade are possible. In the first, an attacker replaces the = QUIC -version in the Initial packet. In the second, a fake Version Negotiatio= n packet -is sent by an attacker. To protect against these attacks, the transport= -parameters include three fields that encode version information. These -parameters are used to retroactively authenticate the choice of version = (see -{{version-negotiation}}). - -The cryptographic handshake provides integrity protection for the negoti= ated -version as part of the transport parameters (see {{transport-parameters}= }). As +Theoretically, two forms of QUIC version downgrade are possible. In the= first, +an attacker replaces the QUIC version in the Initial packet. In the sec= ond, +a fake Version Negotiation packet is sent by an attacker. To protect ag= ainst +these attacks, the cryptographic handshake provides integrity protection= for +the negotiated version as part of the transport parameters. As described= in +{{transport-parameters}} the transport parameters include three fields t= hat }}**,** > = New transport parameters can be registered according to the rules in {{iana-transport-parameters}}. = = ### Version Negotiation Validation {#version-validation} = -Though the cryptographic handshake has integrity protection, two forms o= f QUIC -version downgrade are possible. In the first, an attacker replaces the = QUIC -version in the Initial packet. In the second, a fake Version Negotiatio= n packet -is sent by an attacker. To protect against these attacks, the transport= -parameters include three fields that encode version information. These -parameters are used to retroactively authenticate the choice of version = (see -{{version-negotiation}}). - -The cryptographic handshake provides integrity protection for the negoti= ated By removing this statement, it's no longer obvious why using transport pa= rameters is more reliable than the original transmission of these values.= > @@ -1805,10 +1833,11 @@ QUIC versions that the server supports. = The negotiated_version field is the version that is in use. This MUST b= e set by the server to the value that is on the Initial packet that it accepts (n= ot an -Initial packet that triggers a Retry or Version Negotiation packet). A = client -that receives a negotiated_version that does not match the version of QU= IC that -is in use MUST terminate the connection with a VERSION_NEGOTIATION_ERROR= error -code. +Initial packet that triggers a Retry or Version Negotiation packet). + +A client that receives a negotiated_version that does not match the vers= ion of This is a continuation of the same thought; I'm not sure the added paragr= aph break is an improvement. > @@ -1985,14 +2014,16 @@ validation - but a server SHOULD limit the data= it sends toward an unvalidated address. Successful completion of the cryptographic handshake implicitl= y provides proof that the client has received packets from the server. = -The client should allow for additional Retry packets being sent in +The client SHOULD allow for additional Retry packets being sent in I agree that we want to get rid of the lowercase "should" to avoid confus= ion, but given that this is a MUST in the next paragraph, I don't think c= apitalizing it is the way to go. Perhaps "needs to"? > @@ -2015,7 +2046,9 @@ Thus, a resumption token SHOULD include an expira= tion time. The server MAY include either an explicit expiration time or an issued timestamp and dynamically calculate the expiration time. It is also unlikely that the= client port number is the same on two different connections; validating the por= t is -therefore unlikely to be successful. +therefore unlikely to be successful. It may also be possible that the cl= ient's +IP address has changed, there it is also not recommended to validate the= IP +address. This is a substantive change to our recommendations, and I disagree with = it. You issue tokens precisely because it allows you to skip the round-t= rip of validating the address if they haven't changed (or haven't changed= much). > @@ -2290,20 +2323,20 @@ validation of the address of the spurious migra= tion to be abandoned. ### Loss Detection and Congestion Control {#migration-cc} = The capacity available on the new path might not be the same as the old = path. -Packets sent on the old path SHOULD NOT contribute to congestion control= or RTT -estimation for the new path. - -On confirming a peer's ownership of its new address, an endpoint SHOULD +On confirming a peer's ownership of its new address, an endpoint MUST This changes a "SHOULD" followed by a "MUST NOT" into a "MUST ... unless"= . That reduces the scope of the latitude we leave to implementers. > -An endpoint MUST NOT return to the send rate used for the previous pat= h unless -it is reasonably sure that the previous send rate is valid for the new p= ath. -For instance, a change in the client's port number is likely indicative = of a -rebinding in a middlebox and not a complete change in path. This determ= ination -likely depends on heuristics, which could be imperfect; if the new path = capacity -is significantly reduced, ultimately this relies on the congestion contr= oller -responding to congestion signals and reducing send rates appropriately. +the new path unless it is reasonably sure that the actually network path= did not +change. For instance, a change in the client's port number is likely ind= icative +of a rebinding in a middlebox and not a complete change in path. This +determination likely depends on heuristics, which could be imperfect; if= the new +path capacity is significantly reduced, ultimately this relies on the co= ngestion +controller responding to congestion signals and reducing send rates +appropriately. + +If the congestion controller has been reset this means that packets sent= on the reset, ~this means that~ packets > @@ -2560,11 +2594,16 @@ properly continue the connection. An endpoint = that wishes to communicate a fatal connection error MUST use a closing frame if it has sufficient sta= te to do so. = -To support this process, a token is sent by endpoints. The token is car= ried in -the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame sent by either peer, and servers can specify= the -stateless_reset_token transport parameter during the handshake (clients = cannot -because their transport parameters don't have confidentiality protection= ). This -value is protected by encryption, so only client and server know this va= lue. +To support this process, a token is sent by the endpoints that can be re= covered +or regenerated by the endpoint based on the information available in eac= h packet +even if the connection state was lost. This provides a protect mechanism= to +identify Stateless Reset packets from an attacker. "protect mechanism" is missing something, but I'm not sure what. It does= n't permit identifying SRs generated by an attacker, because they'll just= look like random noise. I'd drop this last sentence, though your expans= ion on our assumptions about the token might be useful. > @@ -2773,7 +2812,7 @@ encoding. The PADDING frame (type=3D0x00) has no semantic value. PADDING frames c= an be used to increase the size of a packet. Padding can be used to increase an in= itial client packet to the minimum required size, or to provide protection aga= inst -traffic analysis for protected packets. +traffic analysis for protected packets. PADDING frames need to be acknow= leged. In addition to what @nibanks said, the presence of PADDING frames does no= t cause a packet to elicit an acknowledgement. > @@ -3415,7 +3454,10 @@ acknowledged again. Because ACK frames are not sent in response to ACK-only packets, a recei= ver that is only sending ACK frames will only receive acknowledgements for its pa= ckets if the sender includes them in packets with non-ACK frames. A sender SH= OULD -bundle ACK frames with other frames when possible. +bundle ACK frames with other frames when possible. A receiver that would= only +send ACK frames therefore can trigger an ACK from the sender by sending = a +frames that needs to be acknowledged. Knowing which ACKs have been recei= ved And "a frames". > not maximally packed, to avoid sending out large numbers of small pack= ets. An -implementation may use knowledge about application sending behavior or +implementation MAY use knowledge about application sending behavior or I don't know that this needs to be normative. If you want to avoid the l= ower-case may, perhaps "can"? > @@ -3713,11 +3755,11 @@ latency. ## Packet Processing and Acknowledgment {#processing-and-ack} = A packet MUST NOT be acknowledged until packet protection has been succe= ssfully -removed and all frames contained in the packet have been processed. Any= stream -state transitions triggered by the frame MUST have occurred. For STREAM= frames, -this means the data has been enqueued in preparation to be received by t= he -application protocol, but it does not require that data is delivered and= -consumed. +removed and all frames contained in the packet have been processed, incl= uding +any stream state transitions triggered by the frame, as described in sec= tion remove "section" > = -* Application data sent in STREAM frames is retransmitted in new STREAM = frames - unless the endpoint has sent a RST_STREAM for that stream. Once an en= dpoint - sends a RST_STREAM frame, no further STREAM frames are needed. +* Application data sent in STREAM frames is retransmitted if detected as= lost, + e.g. according to the rules in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, in new STREAM frames= unless Having "in new STREAM frames" after the comma reads oddly. Perhaps this = needs to become its own sentence? "New STREAM frames containing the lost= data are generated, unless the endpoint has sent a RST_STREAM for that s= tream." > @@ -3808,7 +3852,8 @@ containing that information is acknowledged. * A liveness or path validation check using PATH_CHALLENGE frames is sen= t periodically until a matching PATH_RESPONSE frame is received or until= there is no remaining need for liveness or path validation checking. PATH_CH= ALLENGE - frames include a different payload each time they are sent. + frames include a different payload each time they are sent and are the= refore + not-retransmittable. No, you can't. You can try a fresh challenge, but it's not supposed to b= e the same payload. > @@ -3808,7 +3852,8 @@ containing that information is acknowledged. * A liveness or path validation check using PATH_CHALLENGE frames is sen= t periodically until a matching PATH_RESPONSE frame is received or until= there is no remaining need for liveness or path validation checking. PATH_CH= ALLENGE - frames include a different payload each time they are sent. + frames include a different payload each time they are sent and are the= refore + not-retransmittable. I'm not sure this addition is useful. > + +-------+ | + | | + | Send STREAM / | + | STREAM_BLOCKED | + v | + +-------+ | +Send STREAM / .-| | | + STREAM_BLOCKED / | | Send | Send RST_STREAM | +Recv MAX_STREAM_DATA '>| |---------------------->| + +-------+ | + | | + | Send STREAM + FIN / | + | Recv STOP_SENDING | + v v + .-+-------+ +-------+ + Recv STOP_SEDNING | | Data | Send RST_STREAM | Reset | SENDING > + +-------+ | + | | + | Send STREAM + FIN / | + | Recv STOP_SENDING | + v v + .-+-------+ +-------+ + Recv STOP_SEDNING | | Data | Send RST_STREAM | Reset | + '>| Sent +------------------>| Sent | + +-------+ +-------+ + | | + | Recv All ACKs | Recv ACK + v v + +-------+ +-------+ + | Data | | Reset | + | Recvd | | Recvd | + +-------+ +-------+ I don't think that the self-transitions are needed. Those events simply = don't cause changes to the current stream state, just like many other eve= nts that aren't shown. > @@ -4078,7 +4125,7 @@ in preparation for sending. = The sending part of a bidirectional stream initiated by a peer (type 0 f= or a server, type 1 for a client) enters the "Ready" state if the receiving p= art -enters the "Recv" state. +enters the "Recv" state (see Figure {{fig-stream-recv-states}}). ~Figure~ > - | App Read All Data | App Read RST - v v - +-------+ +-------+ - | Data | | Reset | - | Read | | Read | - +-------+ +-------+ + o + | Recv STREAM / STREAM_BLOCKED / RST_STREAM + | Create Bidirectional Stream (Sending) + | Recv MAX_STREAM_DATA + | Create Higher-Numbered Stream + v + +-------+ Send STOP_SENDING + .-| |-------------------------------. +Send | | Recv | | + MAX_STREAM_SIZE '>| | Recv RST_STREAM | Same comment about self-transitions. > + | Create Bidirectional Stream (Sending) + | Recv MAX_STREAM_DATA + | Create Higher-Numbered Stream + v + +-------+ Send STOP_SENDING + .-| |-------------------------------. +Send | | Recv | | + MAX_STREAM_SIZE '>| | Recv RST_STREAM | + +-------+-----------------------. | + | | | + | Recv STREAM + FIN | | + v | v + +-------+ | +-------+ + | Size | | | Wait | + | Known + Recv RST_STREAM | | STOP | + +-------+---------------------->| +-------+ Presumably the state where incoming data is being discarded, but the soli= cited RST_STREAM hasn't been received yet. We originally said that STOP_= SENDING didn't change the state, just hinted to the other side that it sh= ould do so.=0D =0D I don't object to making this a defined state, but if so, then the descri= ption needs to be added below as well. Let's make this a separate PR. > @@ -4400,9 +4448,9 @@ STREAM frames ensures that loss recovery, congest= ion control, and flow control operate effectively. = CRYPTO frames SHOULD be prioritized over other streams prior to the comp= letion -of the cryptographic handshake. This includes the retransmission of the= second -flight of client handshake messages, that is, the TLS Finished and any c= lient -authentication messages. +of the cryptographic handshake. In {{QUIC-TLS}} this includes the retra= nsmission +of the second flight of client handshake messages, that is the TLS Finis= hed and +any client authentication messages. Addition of QUIC-TLS reference seems unnecessary, and the removal of the = comma is incorrect. > @@ -4450,7 +4498,8 @@ with the Stream ID set appropriately. A receiver = could use the current offset of data consumed to determine the flow control offset to be advertised. A = receiver MAY send MAX_STREAM_DATA frames in multiple packets in order to make sur= e that the sender receives an update before running out of flow control credit,= even if -one of the packets is lost. +one of the packets is lost. As soons as the packet with the MAX_STREAM_D= ATA +frame is acknowlegded, there is no need to send the same max stream limi= t agian. Was this not obvious before? > @@ -4486,7 +4535,7 @@ stream before the RST_STREAM frame, and the recei= ver MUST use the final offset to account for all bytes sent on the stream in its connection level flow= controller. = -### Response to a RST_STREAM +## Response to a RST_STREAM These are subsections of "Other Considerations." If you're going to make= them stand-alone sections, I'd move them before that section. However, = I'm more inclined to leave them as-is pending @janaiyengar and @martintho= mson's general rearranging of the draft. > @@ -4495,7 +4544,7 @@ RST_STREAM an endpoint will choose to stop sendin= g data in its own direction. If the sender of a RST_STREAM wishes to explicitly state that no future dat= a will be processed, that endpoint MAY send a STOP_SENDING frame at the same ti= me. = -### Data Limit Increments {#fc-credit} +## Data Limit Increments {#fc-credit} Same. > @@ -4524,7 +4573,7 @@ peer-initiated streams close. A receiver MAY als= o advance the maximum stream ID based on current activity, system conditions, and other environmental fa= ctors. = = -### Blocking on Flow Control {#blocking} +## Blocking on Flow Control {#blocking} Same. -- = You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@MikeBishop requested changes on this pull request.

Quite a mixed bag. You hit on a few places where there are useful imp= rovements to make. However, several of the changes seem to add text unne= cessarily, and a few really ought to be separate PRs.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  protocol, including the conceptual design=
, wire format, and mechanisms of the
 QUIC protocol for connection establishment, stream multiplexing, stream =
and
 connection-level flow control, connection migration, and data reliabilit=
y.
 =

-Accompanying documents describe QUIC's loss detection and congestion=
 control
-{{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, and the use of TLS 1.3 for key negotiation {{QUIC-TLS=
}}.
+An accompanying document describes QUIC's loss detection and congest=
ion control
+{{QUIC-RECOVERY}}. As these are sender-side only mechanisms they can be =
changed

I think the point of that sentence is that the endpoints don't both ne= ed to be following that RFC for it to be this version of QUIC. It's a le= gitimate comment, though I might frame it differently.

"Each implementation of QUIC will unilaterally select a loss detection= and congestion control strategy. A recommended approach is described in= {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}."

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  protocol, including the conceptual design=
, wire format, and mechanisms of the
 QUIC protocol for connection establishment, stream multiplexing, stream =
and
 connection-level flow control, connection migration, and data reliabilit=
y.
 =

-Accompanying documents describe QUIC's loss detection and congestion=
 control
-{{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, and the use of TLS 1.3 for key negotiation {{QUIC-TLS=
}}.
+An accompanying document describes QUIC's loss detection and congest=
ion control
+{{QUIC-RECOVERY}}. As these are sender-side only mechanisms they can be =
changed
+without negotiating a new QUIC version. This document specifies version
+0x00000001 of QUIC which uses TLS1.3 for key negotiation as described in=

Dropped a space ("TLS 1.3").

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  =

+QUIC is a name, not an acronym.

The consensus before was to put this in the definitions section. It f= eels out-of-place here.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  =

-QUIC version 1 conforms to the protocol invariants in {{QUIC-INVARIANTS}=
}.
+All versions of QUIC MUST conform to the protocol invariants in
+{{QUIC-INVARIANTS}}.

No, this isn't a normative requirement. You could say that "All versi= ons of QUIC conform....", purely for the reader's information.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -293,8 +307,8 @@ Long headers are used =
for packets that are sent prior to the completion of
 version negotiation and establishment of 1-RTT keys. Once both condition=
s are
 met, a sender switches to sending packets using the short header
 ({{short-header}}).  The long form allows for special packets - such as =
the
-Version Negotiation packet - to be represented in this uniform fixed-len=
gth
-packet format. Packets that use the long header contain the following fi=
elds:
+Version Negotiation packet - to be represented in this uniform packet fo=
rmat.

No, there's not. I don't think this bears on @mirjak's change itself, but we should update this paragraph.<= /p>

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -380,7 +394,8 @@ covers the both the Pa=
cket Number and Payload fields, both of which are
 confidentiality protected and initially of unknown length.  The size of =
the
 Payload field is learned once the packet number protection is removed.
 =

-Senders can sometimes coalesce multiple packets into one UDP datagram.  =
See
+The length field is used to enable senders to coalesce multiple long-hea=
der

I think "multiple packets" was fine. The section being referenced has= the details about what combinations will actually work.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -736,11 +751,11 @@ the Source Connectio=
n ID includes the connection ID that the sender of the
 packet wishes to use (see {{connection-id}}). The server MUST use consis=
tent
 Source Connection IDs during the handshake.
 =

-On first receiving an Initial or Retry packet from the server, the clien=
t uses
-the Source Connection ID supplied by the server as the Destination Conne=
ction ID
-for subsequent packets.  Once a client has received an Initial packet fr=
om the
-server, it MUST discard any packet it receives with a different Source
-Connection ID.
+On first receiving an Initial or Retry packet from the server, the clien=
t MUST

While not inaccurate, is there a reason to make this change? This is = a statement of how the protocol works, which still describes the correct = behavior.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -842,18 +857,21 @@ used to carry acknow=
ledgments and cryptographic handshake messages from the
 server and client.
 =

 A server sends its cryptographic handshake in one or more Handshake pack=
ets in
-response to an Initial packet if it does not send a Retry packet.  Once =
a client
-has received a Handshake packet from a server, it uses Handshake packets=
 to send
-subsequent cryptographic handshake messages and acknowledgments to the s=
erver.
+response to an Initial packet (in addition to the server Initial packet)=
 if it

This parenthetical doesn't seem to add anything. The server does<= /em> send an Initial packet, true, but it's not related to how the crypto= graphic handshake is carried.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  =

 The Destination Connection ID field in a Handshake packet contains a con=
nection
-ID that is chosen by the recipient of the packet; the Source Connection =
ID
-includes the connection ID that the sender of the packet wishes to use (=
see
-{{connection-id-encoding}}).
+ID that is chosen by the other endpoint of this connection as indicated =
in
+Source Connection ID field of the previously received Initial packet fro=
m that
+endpoint; the Source Connection ID includes the connection ID that the
+sender of the packet wishes to use (see {{connection-id-encoding}}).

The added text makes this less readable. I'd revert this paragraph.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  =

 The first Handshake packet sent by a server contains a packet number of =
0.
-Handshake packets are their own packet number space.  Packet numbers are=

-incremented normally for other Handshake packets.
+Handshake packets are their own packet number space. See section
+{{packet-numbers}} on packet number spaces. Packet numbers are increment=
ed

"See X on Y" feels awkward to me. Also, this will produce "section Se= ction a.b.c" when compiled. I'd make this a parenthetical and either sho= rten this all the way:

...are their own packet number space. (See {{packet-numbers}}.=
)  Packet numbers are....

...or expand it:

(See {{packet numbers}} for more information on packet number =
spaces.)

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -873,7 +891,8 @@ static handshake keys =
or the 0-RTT keys are sent with long headers; all packets
 protected with 1-RTT keys are sent with short headers.  The different pa=
cket
 types explicitly indicate the encryption level and therefore the keys th=
at are
 used to remove packet protection.  0-RTT and 1-RTT protected packets sha=
re a
-single packet number space.
+single packet number space. Initial and Handshake packets both have thei=
r own

both =3D> each; perhaps combine these: "...single packet number sp= ace, while Initial and Handshake packets each...."

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -889,23 +908,24 @@ Packets protected wi=
th 0-RTT keys use a type value of 0x7C.  The connection ID
 fields for a 0-RTT packet MUST match the values used in the Initial pack=
et
 ({{packet-initial}}).
 =

-The client can send 0-RTT packets after receiving an Initial
-{{packet-initial}} or Handshake ({{packet-handshake}}) packet, if that
+The client can send further 0-RTT packets after receiving an Initial

or "additional", or "can continue sending"

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  packet does not complete the handshake.  =
Even if the client receives a
 different connection ID in the Handshake packet, it MUST continue to
 use the same Destination Connection ID for 0-RTT packets, see
 {{connection-id-encoding}}.
 =

-The version field for protected packets is the current QUIC version.
+The version field for protected packets contains the current QUIC versio=
n.

No, because "protected" packets includes short-header packets, which d= on't have a version field. This inverts the original meaning, which is t= hat whenever a version field is present, it always indicates this version= .

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  =

 The packet number field contains a packet number, which has additional
 confidentiality protection that is applied after packet protection is ap=
plied
 (see {{QUIC-TLS}} for details).  The underlying packet number increases =
with
 each packet sent, see {{packet-numbers}} for details.
 =

-The payload is protected using authenticated encryption.  {{QUIC-TLS}} d=
escribes
-packet protection in detail.  After decryption, the plaintext consists o=
f a
-sequence of frames, as described in {{frames}}.
+The content of 0-RTT and 1-RTT packets is protected using authenticated

Why the switch from "payload" as used elsewhere to "content"? The pay= load of each protected packet is protected with authenticated encryption.= That's true of Initial and Handshake as well, though the Initial key is= not secret enough to put much faith in the authentication.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1114,7 +1132,8 @@ Stateless Reset do n=
ot contain frames.
 Protected payloads MUST contain at least one frame, and MAY contain mult=
iple
 frames and multiple frame types.
 =

-Frames MUST fit within a single QUIC packet and MUST NOT span a QUIC pac=
ket
+Frames MUST fit within a single QUIC packet, and therefore within a sing=
le
+UDP datagram, and MUST NOT span a QUIC packet
 boundary. Each frame begins with a Frame Type, indicating its type, foll=
owed by

If you're touching this section, I feel like these MUSTs are excessive= . It's not that it's prohibited, it's that there's no mechanism for doin= g so. Packets contain sequences of whole frames and cannot span datagram= s. Therefore, frames also cannot span packets.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1184,7 +1203,9 @@ endpoint cannot send=
 a frame of a type that is unknown to its peer.
 An extension to QUIC that wishes to use a new type of frame MUST first e=
nsure
 that a peer is able to understand the frame.  An endpoint can use a tran=
sport
 parameter to signal its willingness to receive one or more extension fra=
me types
-with the one transport parameter.
+with the one transport parameter. Otherwise it is assumed that enpoints =
have

Agreed -- revert.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1207,18 +1228,21 @@ distinguish it fro=
m other connections.  A connection ID can be either 0 octets
 in length, or between 4 and 18 octets (inclusive).  Connection IDs are s=
elected
 independently in each direction.
 =

-The primary function of a connection ID is to ensure that changes in add=
ressing
-at lower protocol layers (UDP, IP, and below) don't cause packets fo=
r a QUIC
-connection to be delivered to the wrong endpoint.  Each endpoint selects=

-connection IDs using an implementation-specific (and perhaps
+The primary function of a connection ID is to ensure packets can still b=
e
+assotiated with the right connection at the receiver if changes in sende=
r

associated with the correct connection

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1207,18 +1228,21 @@ distinguish it fro=
m other connections.  A connection ID can be either 0 octets
 in length, or between 4 and 18 octets (inclusive).  Connection IDs are s=
elected
 independently in each direction.
 =

-The primary function of a connection ID is to ensure that changes in add=
ressing
-at lower protocol layers (UDP, IP, and below) don't cause packets fo=
r a QUIC
-connection to be delivered to the wrong endpoint.  Each endpoint selects=

-connection IDs using an implementation-specific (and perhaps
+The primary function of a connection ID is to ensure packets can still b=
e
+assotiated with the right connection at the receiver if changes in sende=
r
+addressing at lower protocol layers (UDP, IP, and below) occur. The Conn=
ection ID
+is visibe to the path to also enable the network to deliver packets for =
a QUIC

"visible... to also enable"; perhaps fold the path and load= -balancer comments together and just say "to enable load balancers to del= iver packets for a QUIC connection to the correct endpoint despite addres= s changes."

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1303,34 +1327,34 @@ the packet.  Serve=
rs SHOULD NOT attempt to decode or decrypt a packet from an
 unknown version, but instead send a Version Negotiation packet, provided=
 that
 the packet is sufficiently long.
 =

-Servers MUST drop other packets that contain unsupported versions.
+Servers MUST drop packets without sending a Version Negotiation packet w=
hen the
+received packet contains unsupported versions and is too small
+to be an Initial packet for some version supported by the server.

"Initial packet" is a version-specific concept. "...and is too small = to create a new connection in any version supported by the server." Howe= ver, I see this in the old text too, so I'll file a separate issue.

A packet can't contain multiple versions, so "when the received packet= indicates an unsupported version". (I probably would have reworded the = old text as well, but multiple versions in multiple packets is somewhat o= kay.)

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  =

-Packets with a supported version, or no version field, are matched to
-a connection as described in {{packet-handling}}. If not matched, the
-server continues below.

What was the rationale for moving this text below processing of unmatc= hed packets from a new connection? You only want to do the Initial/0-RTT= checks if a packet is unmatched.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  =

-If a server isn't currently accepting any new connections, it SHOULD=
 send a
-Handshake packet containing a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame with error code
-SERVER_BUSY.
-
-If the packet is a 0-RTT packet, the server MAY buffer a limited
-number of these packets in anticipation of a late-arriving Initial
-Packet. Clients are forbidden from sending Handshake packets prior to
+If the packet is a 0-RTT packet with a supported version number, the ser=
ver MAY

If you've reached this point in the flow, it has a supported version. = Unsupported versions, regardless of packet type, have already been rejec= ted or dropped.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  Servers MUST drop incoming packets under =
all other circumstances. They
 SHOULD send a Stateless Reset ({{stateless-reset}}) if a connection ID
 is present in the header.
 =

 ## Version Negotiation
 =

 Version negotiation ensures that client and server agree to a QUIC versi=
on
-that is mutually supported. A server sends a Version Negotiation packet =
in
-response to each packet that might initiate a new connection, see
+that is mutually supported independent of the implemented version. A ser=
ver
+can send a Version Negotiation packet in response to each packet that mi=
ght
+initiate a new connection and is sufficiently large, see also
  • Looks like Martin slipped a comma splice by me. =F0=9F=98=89 This should be a = semicolon instead.
  • I don't think the addition of "also" adds anything here.
  • The change from "sends" to "can send" is probably okay, but it implie= s a slightly different behavior on the part of servers than we'd previous= ly discussed.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1363,12 +1387,8 @@ selects an acceptab=
le protocol version from the list provided by the server.
 The client then attempts to create a connection using that version.  Tho=
ugh the
 contents of the Initial packet the client sends might not change in
 response to version negotiation, a client MUST increase the packet numbe=
r it
-uses on every packet it sends.  Packets MUST continue to use long header=
s and
-MUST include the new negotiated protocol version.
-
-The client MUST use the long header format and include its selected vers=
ion on
-all packets until it has 1-RTT keys and it has received a packet from th=
e server
-which is not a Version Negotiation packet.
+uses on every packet it sends. The client MUST use the long header forma=
t and
+include its selected version on all packets until it has 1-RTT keys.

For context, before we'd agreed that version implied handshake protoco= l, we said that the requirement for switching to short-header was the com= pletion of both version negotiation and 1-RTT key availability, = and this text reflects that. (Consider a handshake protocol where there'= s a shared dictionary of static keys that gets rotated periodically, and = the only message prior to 1-RTT is the client's unilateral declaration "I= 'm using key A1B2C3 from your key table." The client can then send "1-RT= T" short-header packets on its first flight.)

However, in the current version (which this is describing), version ne= gotiation always completes prior to 1-RTT key establishment, so this is p= robably okay.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  a 1232 octet QUIC packet payload.  This i=
ncludes overheads that reduce the space
 available to the cryptographic handshake protocol.
 =

-The CRYPTO frame can be sent in different packet number spaces.  CRYPTO =
frames
+The CRYPTO frames can be sent in different packet number spaces.  CRYPTO=
 frames

I'd do "CRYPTO frames" or the original text.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1578,20 +1599,26 @@ language from Sect=
ion 3 of {{!TLS13=3DI-D.ietf-tls-tls13}}.
 =

 The `extension_data` field of the quic_transport_parameters extension de=
fined in
 {{QUIC-TLS}} contains a TransportParameters value.  TLS encoding rules a=
re
-therefore used to encode the transport parameters.
+therefore used to encode the transport parameters. As show in
+{{figure-transport-parameters}} TransportParameters consists of either a=
n

Comma after the figure reference.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  =

 QUIC encodes transport parameters into a sequence of octets, which are t=
hen
 included in the cryptographic handshake.  Once the handshake completes, =
the
 transport parameters declared by the peer are available.  Each endpoint
 validates the value provided by its peer.  In particular, version negoti=
ation
 MUST be validated (see {{version-validation}}) before the connection
-establishment is considered properly complete.
+establishment is considered properly complete. Each transport parameter =
consists
+of an 2-byte parameter ID and an optional parameter value.

The value isn't optional -- it's length-prefixed, and the length might= be zero.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1661,7 +1688,7 @@ disable_migration (0=
x0009):
 : The endpoint does not support connection migration ({{migration}}). Pe=
ers MUST
   NOT send any packets, including probing packets ({{probing}}), from a =
local
   address other than that used to perform the handshake.  This parameter=
 is a
-  zero-length value.
+  zero-length value. Values other than 0 and 1 are invalid.

How would the value be 0 or 1 if its length is zero?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1719,11 +1746,11 @@ type TRANSPORT_PAR=
AMETER_ERROR.
 ### Values of Transport Parameters for 0-RTT {#zerortt-parameters}
 =

 A client that attempts to send 0-RTT data MUST remember the transport pa=
rameters
-used by the server.  The transport parameters that the server advertises=
 during
-connection establishment apply to all connections that are resumed using=
 the
-keying material established during that handshake.  Remembered transport=

-parameters apply to the new connection until the handshake completes and=
 new
-transport parameters from the server can be provided.
+provided by the server in the initial handshake.  The transport paramete=
rs that

"initial handshake" might be unclear, given that previous session migh= t also have been a resumption. Perhaps "previous" instead?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1757,27 +1784,28 @@ for transport para=
meters cannot be supported.
 =

 ### New Transport Parameters
 =

-New transport parameters can be used to negotiate new protocol behavior.=
  An
-endpoint MUST ignore transport parameters that it does not support.  Abs=
ence of
-a transport parameter therefore disables any optional protocol feature t=
hat is
-negotiated using the parameter.
+New transport parameters can be used by the client to negotiate new prot=
ocol

I think you're identifying a distinction here between "negotiate" and = "advertise" which is potentially useful, but I'm not sure the text you've= written makes good use of that distinction.

Some extensions need only be advertised: "I support this feature; if = you do too, feel free to use it." Actual changes to existing protocol be= havior require confirmation, which can be accomplished by advertisements = from both sides. Choices between multiple options require true negotiati= on, where the client offers a set of choices and the server picks one (or= none).

Only clients can begin a negotiation for breaking protocol changes, bu= t either side can unilaterally advertise support for non-breaking optiona= l features.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1757,27 +1784,28 @@ for transport para=
meters cannot be supported.
 =

 ### New Transport Parameters
 =

-New transport parameters can be used to negotiate new protocol behavior.=
  An
-endpoint MUST ignore transport parameters that it does not support.  Abs=
ence of
-a transport parameter therefore disables any optional protocol feature t=
hat is
-negotiated using the parameter.
+New transport parameters can be used by the client to negotiate new prot=
ocol
+behavior.  An endpoint MUST ignore transport parameters that it does not=
 support.
+Absence of a transport parameter as provided by the server therefore dis=
ables
+any optional protocol feature that is negotiated using the parameter. A =
server
+cannot negotiation new features but can indicate the support of a new fe=
ature

"negotiate"

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1757,27 +1784,28 @@ for transport para=
meters cannot be supported.
 =

 ### New Transport Parameters
 =

-New transport parameters can be used to negotiate new protocol behavior.=
  An
-endpoint MUST ignore transport parameters that it does not support.  Abs=
ence of
-a transport parameter therefore disables any optional protocol feature t=
hat is
-negotiated using the parameter.
+New transport parameters can be used by the client to negotiate new prot=
ocol
+behavior.  An endpoint MUST ignore transport parameters that it does not=
 support.
+Absence of a transport parameter as provided by the server therefore dis=
ables
+any optional protocol feature that is negotiated using the parameter. A =
server
+cannot negotiation new features but can indicate the support of a new fe=
ature
+that is ready to be used by the client. Howeverm it cannot assume that t=
he client

However**,**

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1757,27 +1784,28 @@ for transport para=
meters cannot be supported.
 =

 ### New Transport Parameters
 =

-New transport parameters can be used to negotiate new protocol behavior.=
  An
-endpoint MUST ignore transport parameters that it does not support.  Abs=
ence of
-a transport parameter therefore disables any optional protocol feature t=
hat is
-negotiated using the parameter.
+New transport parameters can be used by the client to negotiate new prot=
ocol
+behavior.  An endpoint MUST ignore transport parameters that it does not=
 support.
+Absence of a transport parameter as provided by the server therefore dis=
ables
+any optional protocol feature that is negotiated using the parameter. A =
server
+cannot negotiation new features but can indicate the support of a new fe=
ature
+that is ready to be used by the client. Howeverm it cannot assume that t=
he client
+understand the parameter and is ready to use that feature.

"understands ... and will use that feature."

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  =

 New transport parameters can be registered according to the rules in
 {{iana-transport-parameters}}.
 =

 =

 ### Version Negotiation Validation {#version-validation}
 =

-Though the cryptographic handshake has integrity protection, two forms o=
f QUIC
-version downgrade are possible.  In the first, an attacker replaces the =
QUIC
-version in the Initial packet.  In the second, a fake Version Negotiatio=
n packet
-is sent by an attacker.  To protect against these attacks, the transport=

-parameters include three fields that encode version information.  These
-parameters are used to retroactively authenticate the choice of version =
(see
-{{version-negotiation}}).
-
-The cryptographic handshake provides integrity protection for the negoti=
ated
-version as part of the transport parameters (see {{transport-parameters}=
}).  As
+Theoretically, two forms of QUIC version downgrade are possible.  In the=
 first,

Why "theoretically"? Are they not actually possible?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  =

 New transport parameters can be registered according to the rules in
 {{iana-transport-parameters}}.
 =

 =

 ### Version Negotiation Validation {#version-validation}
 =

-Though the cryptographic handshake has integrity protection, two forms o=
f QUIC
-version downgrade are possible.  In the first, an attacker replaces the =
QUIC
-version in the Initial packet.  In the second, a fake Version Negotiatio=
n packet
-is sent by an attacker.  To protect against these attacks, the transport=

-parameters include three fields that encode version information.  These
-parameters are used to retroactively authenticate the choice of version =
(see
-{{version-negotiation}}).
-
-The cryptographic handshake provides integrity protection for the negoti=
ated
-version as part of the transport parameters (see {{transport-parameters}=
}).  As
+Theoretically, two forms of QUIC version downgrade are possible.  In the=
 first,
+an attacker replaces the QUIC version in the Initial packet.  In the sec=
ond,
+a fake Version Negotiation packet is sent by an attacker.  To protect ag=
ainst
+these attacks, the cryptographic handshake provides integrity protection=
 for
+the negotiated version as part of the transport parameters. As described=
 in

This is somewhat different from what I would have understood from inte= grity protection. Perhaps "reconfirms"?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -Though the cryptographic handshake has in=
tegrity protection, two forms of QUIC
-version downgrade are possible.  In the first, an attacker replaces the =
QUIC
-version in the Initial packet.  In the second, a fake Version Negotiatio=
n packet
-is sent by an attacker.  To protect against these attacks, the transport=

-parameters include three fields that encode version information.  These
-parameters are used to retroactively authenticate the choice of version =
(see
-{{version-negotiation}}).
-
-The cryptographic handshake provides integrity protection for the negoti=
ated
-version as part of the transport parameters (see {{transport-parameters}=
}).  As
+Theoretically, two forms of QUIC version downgrade are possible.  In the=
 first,
+an attacker replaces the QUIC version in the Initial packet.  In the sec=
ond,
+a fake Version Negotiation packet is sent by an attacker.  To protect ag=
ainst
+these attacks, the cryptographic handshake provides integrity protection=
 for
+the negotiated version as part of the transport parameters. As described=
 in
+{{transport-parameters}} the transport parameters include three fields t=
hat

}},

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  =

 New transport parameters can be registered according to the rules in
 {{iana-transport-parameters}}.
 =

 =

 ### Version Negotiation Validation {#version-validation}
 =

-Though the cryptographic handshake has integrity protection, two forms o=
f QUIC
-version downgrade are possible.  In the first, an attacker replaces the =
QUIC
-version in the Initial packet.  In the second, a fake Version Negotiatio=
n packet
-is sent by an attacker.  To protect against these attacks, the transport=

-parameters include three fields that encode version information.  These
-parameters are used to retroactively authenticate the choice of version =
(see
-{{version-negotiation}}).
-
-The cryptographic handshake provides integrity protection for the negoti=
ated

By removing this statement, it's no longer obvious why using transport= parameters is more reliable than the original transmission of these valu= es.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1805,10 +1833,11 @@ QUIC versions that=
 the server supports.
 =

 The negotiated_version field is the version that is in use.  This MUST b=
e set by
 the server to the value that is on the Initial packet that it accepts (n=
ot an
-Initial packet that triggers a Retry or Version Negotiation packet).  A =
client
-that receives a negotiated_version that does not match the version of QU=
IC that
-is in use MUST terminate the connection with a VERSION_NEGOTIATION_ERROR=
 error
-code.
+Initial packet that triggers a Retry or Version Negotiation packet).
+
+A client that receives a negotiated_version that does not match the vers=
ion of

This is a continuation of the same thought; I'm not sure the added par= agraph break is an improvement.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1985,14 +2014,16 @@ validation - but a=
 server SHOULD limit the data it sends toward an unvalidated
 address.  Successful completion of the cryptographic handshake implicitl=
y
 provides proof that the client has received packets from the server.
 =

-The client should allow for additional Retry packets being sent in
+The client SHOULD allow for additional Retry packets being sent in

I agree that we want to get rid of the lowercase "should" to avoid con= fusion, but given that this is a MUST in the next paragraph, I don't thin= k capitalizing it is the way to go. Perhaps "needs to"?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2015,7 +2046,9 @@ Thus, a resumption t=
oken SHOULD include an expiration time.  The server MAY
 include either an explicit expiration time or an issued timestamp and
 dynamically calculate the expiration time.  It is also unlikely that the=
 client
 port number is the same on two different connections; validating the por=
t is
-therefore unlikely to be successful.
+therefore unlikely to be successful. It may also be possible that the cl=
ient's
+IP address has changed, there it is also not recommended to validate the=
 IP
+address.

This is a substantive change to our recommendations, and I disagree wi= th it. You issue tokens precisely because it allows you to skip the roun= d-trip of validating the address if they haven't changed (or haven't chan= ged much).

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2290,20 +2323,20 @@ validation of the =
address of the spurious migration to be abandoned.
 ### Loss Detection and Congestion Control {#migration-cc}
 =

 The capacity available on the new path might not be the same as the old =
path.
-Packets sent on the old path SHOULD NOT contribute to congestion control=
 or RTT
-estimation for the new path.
-
-On confirming a peer's ownership of its new address, an endpoint SHO=
ULD
+On confirming a peer's ownership of its new address, an endpoint MUS=
T

This changes a "SHOULD" followed by a "MUST NOT" into a "MUST ... unle= ss". That reduces the scope of the latitude we leave to implementers.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -An endpoint MUST NOT return to the send r=
ate used for the previous path unless
-it is reasonably sure that the previous send rate is valid for the new p=
ath.
-For instance, a change in the client's port number is likely indicat=
ive of a
-rebinding in a middlebox and not a complete change in path.  This determ=
ination
-likely depends on heuristics, which could be imperfect; if the new path =
capacity
-is significantly reduced, ultimately this relies on the congestion contr=
oller
-responding to congestion signals and reducing send rates appropriately.
+the new path unless it is reasonably sure that the actually network path=
 did not
+change. For instance, a change in the client's port number is likely=
 indicative
+of a rebinding in a middlebox and not a complete change in path.  This
+determination likely depends on heuristics, which could be imperfect; if=
 the new
+path capacity is significantly reduced, ultimately this relies on the co=
ngestion
+controller responding to congestion signals and reducing send rates
+appropriately.
+
+If the congestion controller has been reset this means that packets sent=
 on the

reset, this means that packets

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2560,11 +2594,16 @@ properly continue =
the connection.  An endpoint that wishes to communicate a
 fatal connection error MUST use a closing frame if it has sufficient sta=
te to do
 so.
 =

-To support this process, a token is sent by endpoints.  The token is car=
ried in
-the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame sent by either peer, and servers can specify=
 the
-stateless_reset_token transport parameter during the handshake (clients =
cannot
-because their transport parameters don't have confidentiality protec=
tion).  This
-value is protected by encryption, so only client and server know this va=
lue.
+To support this process, a token is sent by the endpoints that can be re=
covered
+or regenerated by the endpoint based on the information available in eac=
h packet
+even if the connection state was lost. This provides a protect mechanism=
 to
+identify Stateless Reset packets from an attacker.

"protect mechanism" is missing something, but I'm not sure what. It d= oesn't permit identifying SRs generated by an attacker, because they'll j= ust look like random noise. I'd drop this last sentence, though your exp= ansion on our assumptions about the token might be useful.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2773,7 +2812,7 @@ encoding.
 The PADDING frame (type=3D0x00) has no semantic value.  PADDING frames c=
an be used
 to increase the size of a packet.  Padding can be used to increase an in=
itial
 client packet to the minimum required size, or to provide protection aga=
inst
-traffic analysis for protected packets.
+traffic analysis for protected packets. PADDING frames need to be acknow=
leged.

In addition to what @nibanks said, t= he presence of PADDING frames does not cause a packet to elicit an acknow= ledgement.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3415,7 +3454,10 @@ acknowledged again.=

 Because ACK frames are not sent in response to ACK-only packets, a recei=
ver that
 is only sending ACK frames will only receive acknowledgements for its pa=
ckets
 if the sender includes them in packets with non-ACK frames.  A sender SH=
OULD
-bundle ACK frames with other frames when possible.
+bundle ACK frames with other frames when possible. A receiver that would=
 only
+send ACK frames therefore can trigger an ACK from the sender by sending =
a
+frames that needs to be acknowledged. Knowing which ACKs have been recei=
ved

And "a frames".

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  not maximally packed, to avoid sending ou=
t large numbers of small packets.  An
-implementation may use knowledge about application sending behavior or
+implementation MAY use knowledge about application sending behavior or

I don't know that this needs to be normative. If you want to avoid th= e lower-case may, perhaps "can"?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3713,11 +3755,11 @@ latency.
 ## Packet Processing and Acknowledgment {#processing-and-ack}
 =

 A packet MUST NOT be acknowledged until packet protection has been succe=
ssfully
-removed and all frames contained in the packet have been processed.  Any=
 stream
-state transitions triggered by the frame MUST have occurred.  For STREAM=
 frames,
-this means the data has been enqueued in preparation to be received by t=
he
-application protocol, but it does not require that data is delivered and=

-consumed.
+removed and all frames contained in the packet have been processed, incl=
uding
+any stream state transitions triggered by the frame, as described in sec=
tion

remove "section"

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  =

-* Application data sent in STREAM frames is retransmitted in new STREAM =
frames
-  unless the endpoint has sent a RST_STREAM for that stream.  Once an en=
dpoint
-  sends a RST_STREAM frame, no further STREAM frames are needed.
+* Application data sent in STREAM frames is retransmitted if detected as=
 lost,
+  e.g. according to the rules in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, in new STREAM frames=
 unless

Having "in new STREAM frames" after the comma reads oddly. Perhaps th= is needs to become its own sentence? "New STREAM frames containing the l= ost data are generated, unless the endpoint has sent a RST_STREAM for tha= t stream."

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3808,7 +3852,8 @@ containing that info=
rmation is acknowledged.
 * A liveness or path validation check using PATH_CHALLENGE frames is sen=
t
   periodically until a matching PATH_RESPONSE frame is received or until=
 there
   is no remaining need for liveness or path validation checking. PATH_CH=
ALLENGE
-  frames include a different payload each time they are sent.
+  frames include a different payload each time they are sent and are the=
refore
+  not-retransmittable.

No, you can't. You can try a fresh challenge, but it's not supposed t= o be the same payload.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3808,7 +3852,8 @@ containing that info=
rmation is acknowledged.
 * A liveness or path validation check using PATH_CHALLENGE frames is sen=
t
   periodically until a matching PATH_RESPONSE frame is received or until=
 there
   is no remaining need for liveness or path validation checking. PATH_CH=
ALLENGE
-  frames include a different payload each time they are sent.
+  frames include a different payload each time they are sent and are the=
refore
+  not-retransmittable.

I'm not sure this addition is useful.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +                        +-------+        =
               |
+                            |                           |
+                            | Send STREAM /             |
+                            |      STREAM_BLOCKED       |
+                            v                           |
+                        +-------+                       |
+Send STREAM /         .-|       |                       |
+     STREAM_BLOCKED / | | Send  | Send RST_STREAM       |
+Recv MAX_STREAM_DATA  '>|       |---------------------->|
+                        +-------+                       |
+                            |                           |
+                            | Send STREAM + FIN /       |
+                            | Recv STOP_SENDING         |
+                            v                           v
+                      .-+-------+                   +-------+
+    Recv STOP_SEDNING | | Data  | Send RST_STREAM   | Reset |

SENDING

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +                        +-------+        =
               |
+                            |                           |
+                            | Send STREAM + FIN /       |
+                            | Recv STOP_SENDING         |
+                            v                           v
+                      .-+-------+                   +-------+
+    Recv STOP_SEDNING | | Data  | Send RST_STREAM   | Reset |
+                      '>| Sent  +------------------>| Sent  |
+                        +-------+                   +-------+
+                            |                           |
+                            | Recv All ACKs             | Recv ACK
+                            v                           v
+                        +-------+                   +-------+
+                        | Data  |                   | Reset |
+                        | Recvd |                   | Recvd |
+                        +-------+                   +-------+

I don't think that the self-transitions are needed. Those events simp= ly don't cause changes to the current stream state, just like many other = events that aren't shown.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4078,7 +4125,7 @@ in preparation for s=
ending.
 =

 The sending part of a bidirectional stream initiated by a peer (type 0 f=
or a
 server, type 1 for a client) enters the "Ready" state if the r=
eceiving part
-enters the "Recv" state.
+enters the "Recv" state (see Figure {{fig-stream-recv-states}}=
).

Figure

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -       | App Read All Data         | App =
Read RST
-       v                           v
-   +-------+                   +-------+
-   | Data  |                   | Reset |
-   | Read  |                   | Read  |
-   +-------+                   +-------+
+                       o
+                       | Recv STREAM / STREAM_BLOCKED / RST_STREAM
+                       | Create Bidirectional Stream (Sending)
+                       | Recv MAX_STREAM_DATA
+                       | Create Higher-Numbered Stream
+                       v
+                   +-------+ Send STOP_SENDING
+                 .-|       |-------------------------------.
+Send             | | Recv  |                               |
+ MAX_STREAM_SIZE '>|       | Recv RST_STREAM               |

Same comment about self-transitions.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +                       | Create Bidirecti=
onal Stream (Sending)
+                       | Recv MAX_STREAM_DATA
+                       | Create Higher-Numbered Stream
+                       v
+                   +-------+ Send STOP_SENDING
+                 .-|       |-------------------------------.
+Send             | | Recv  |                               |
+ MAX_STREAM_SIZE '>|       | Recv RST_STREAM               |
+                   +-------+-----------------------.       |
+                       |                           |       |
+                       | Recv STREAM + FIN         |       |
+                       v                           |       v
+                   +-------+                       |   +-------+
+                   | Size  |                       |   | Wait  |
+                   | Known + Recv RST_STREAM       |   | STOP  |
+                   +-------+---------------------->|   +-------+

Presumably the state where incoming data is being discarded, but the s= olicited RST_STREAM hasn't been received yet. We originally said that ST= OP_SENDING didn't change the state, just hinted to the other side that it= should do so.

I don't object to making this a defined state, but if so, then the des= cription needs to be added below as well. Let's make this a separate PR.=

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4400,9 +4448,9 @@ STREAM frames ensure=
s that loss recovery, congestion control, and flow control
 operate effectively.
 =

 CRYPTO frames SHOULD be prioritized over other streams prior to the comp=
letion
-of the cryptographic handshake.  This includes the retransmission of the=
 second
-flight of client handshake messages, that is, the TLS Finished and any c=
lient
-authentication messages.
+of the cryptographic handshake.  In {{QUIC-TLS}} this includes the retra=
nsmission
+of the second flight of client handshake messages, that is the TLS Finis=
hed and
+any client authentication messages.

Addition of QUIC-TLS reference seems unnecessary, and the removal of t= he comma is incorrect.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4450,7 +4498,8 @@ with the Stream ID s=
et appropriately. A receiver could use the current offset of
 data consumed to determine the flow control offset to be advertised.  A =
receiver
 MAY send MAX_STREAM_DATA frames in multiple packets in order to make sur=
e that
 the sender receives an update before running out of flow control credit,=
 even if
-one of the packets is lost.
+one of the packets is lost. As soons as the packet with the MAX_STREAM_D=
ATA
+frame is acknowlegded, there is no need to send the same max stream limi=
t agian.

Was this not obvious before?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4486,7 +4535,7 @@ stream before the RS=
T_STREAM frame, and the receiver MUST use the final offset
 to account for all bytes sent on the stream in its connection level flow=

 controller.
 =

-### Response to a RST_STREAM
+## Response to a RST_STREAM

These are subsections of "Other Considerations." If you're going to m= ake them stand-alone sections, I'd move them before that section. Howeve= r, I'm more inclined to leave them as-is pending @janaiyengar and @ma= rtinthomson's general rearranging of the draft.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4495,7 +4544,7 @@ RST_STREAM an endpoi=
nt will choose to stop sending data in its own direction. If
 the sender of a RST_STREAM wishes to explicitly state that no future dat=
a will
 be processed, that endpoint MAY send a STOP_SENDING frame at the same ti=
me.
 =

-### Data Limit Increments {#fc-credit}
+## Data Limit Increments {#fc-credit}

Same.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4524,7 +4573,7 @@ peer-initiated strea=
ms close.  A receiver MAY also advance the maximum stream ID
 based on current activity, system conditions, and other environmental fa=
ctors.
 =

 =

-### Blocking on Flow Control {#blocking}
+## Blocking on Flow Control {#blocking}

Same.

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An ACK- and PADDING-only packet would not get acknowledged and so remain unacknowledged indefinitely. If the rule is "don't refresh if you have unacknowledged packets", then those packets would prevent the timeout from being restarted when a new packet is sent.

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I see - but why don't you exclude those packets. Simplicity?

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@martinthomson approved this pull request.

Careful, you are roaming into 6919-bis territory here :)

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3407,9 +3407,11 @@ Implementations MUST NOT generate packets that only contain ACK frames in
 response to packets which only contain ACK frames. However, they MUST
 acknowledge packets containing only ACK frames when sending ACK frames in
 response to other packets.  Implementations MUST NOT send more than one packet
-containing only ACK frames per received packet that contains frames other than
-ACK frames.  Packets containing non-ACK frames MUST be acknowledged immediately
-or when a delayed ack timer expires.
+containing only an ACK frame per received packet that contains frames other than
+an ACK frame.  Packets containing non-ACK frames MUST be acknowledged
+immediately or when a delayed ack timer expires. The delayed ack timer should
+never delay an ACK for longer than an RTT, which ensures an ACK frame is sent

"should never" or "MUST NOT"?

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----==_mimepart_5b74ac7c63b95_78aa3ff72ead45c03905de-- From nobody Wed Aug 15 15:58:57 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 845D3130DED for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2018 15:58:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.605 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.605 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UFQfdF841kbA for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2018 15:58:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2F9DE130DD9 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2018 15:58:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2018 15:58:53 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534373933; bh=FWn8WCCwlW8XjYz4R5M5B1lJ6F5tCgsdMmmbvBzKiQ8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=MpC87ba0fN0uuX60DtvC8FSYhval5WQLbOiym5/3dEWIhNSb0MZtK2LtjAuhGTh/I XeFJDA8p1UAEWexICeeprljJWWf8iT0wWx5fevEHO/zxhwEMyCXyQP3vAntoOK+bKW ltNEIMjqkzkwjeKsZS13EshtpEmtpDj0nnOTcO+0= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Move RECOMMENDED values (#1664) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b74b02d551f0_2433f9b406be624140536"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2018 22:58:56 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b74b02d551f0_2433f9b406be624140536 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson approved this pull request. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1664#pullrequestreview-146650164 ----==_mimepart_5b74b02d551f0_2433f9b406be624140536 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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I don't think that there are any state transitions that would be illegal that would result from this. The "all frames have been processed clause" covers this anyway. Let me double-check the state machines, but I think that this is OK.

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----==_mimepart_5b74b0a7a1802_e443fdda96be6281633c9-- From nobody Wed Aug 15 21:54:50 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31C83130EC6 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2018 21:54:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YqL-lrj4xKTd for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2018 21:54:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-16.smtp.github.com (out-16.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.199]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6694C124C04 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2018 21:54:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2018 21:54:44 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534395284; bh=IV5dK8mEY/6XETs8c9WRfUISOcwOnQ9y7Kx3pJM3fTU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=pJEdUdA0inE9cYBKehZMqpgqveuyt2H/B2o+fsW/P/xuSphRcv+km2bniPyskvnFo kLsTLlrXJbmHJ1yncK8CYd9AIqLUoFUnkNbQdNST/FMSQSkCVtnXzxi2mnQUWApEv4 fiKri2PjpbOiilbK4+02By2cdHv/Ii7lH50JEgeU= From: Christian Huitema Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Add an appendix containing test vectors for "Initial". (#1573) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b750394612da_13743fbe5acbe618140042"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: huitema X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 04:54:47 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b750394612da_13743fbe5acbe618140042 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, it may well be that including a "real" packet as a test vector is a bad idea. If we do that, then we will need to update the version number (bytes 2 to 5) from 0xff, 0x00, 0x00, 0x0d to 0xff, 0x00, 0x00, 0x0E for draft 14, and so on for each draft. This does not affect the computation of AEAD and PNE keys, as they are only a function of the salt and connection ID, but it does affect the sample used for PNE in the example. Suppose that instead of a full packet we had a truncated packet, with just enough bytes to get the PNE sample. We will lose the capability of doing a full test "up to packet decoding", but in my experience that's not a very big deal. Implementations can use different unit tests for verifying the implementation of AEAD. But for that loss we get a big gain: we can update the test vector by just flipping the version bits, without having to worry about the rest. Unless we change the salt or the algorithm of course. But then if we do that we know that we have to change the whole test vector no matter what. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1573#issuecomment-413425717 ----==_mimepart_5b750394612da_13743fbe5acbe618140042 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yes, it may well be that including a "real" packet as a test vector is= a bad idea. If we do that, then we will need to update the version numbe= r (bytes 2 to 5) from 0xff, 0x00, 0x00, 0x0d to 0xff, 0x00, 0x00, 0x0E fo= r draft 14, and so on for each draft. This does not affect the computatio= n of AEAD and PNE keys, as they are only a function of the salt and conne= ction ID, but it does affect the sample used for PNE in the example.

Suppose that instead of a full packet we had a truncated packet, with = just enough bytes to get the PNE sample. We will lose the capability of d= oing a full test "up to packet decoding", but in my experience that's not= a very big deal. Implementations can use different unit tests for verify= ing the implementation of AEAD. But for that loss we get a big gain: we c= an update the test vector by just flipping the version bits, without havi= ng to worry about the rest.

Unless we change the salt or the algorithm of course. But then if we d= o that we know that we have to change the whole test vector no matter wha= t.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b750394612da_13743fbe5acbe618140042-- From nobody Wed Aug 15 22:12:49 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 203A5130EDA for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2018 22:12:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id b1aBPqGbMw2I for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2018 22:12:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6D62E130DC8 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2018 22:12:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2018 22:12:44 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534396364; bh=SjwSpdR8S3Ea9WYi1M1sdsu/KPWuCBoayfbZbcwdeEg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=SBSbJHvmj9cxU7aD8LwkzwgQ3cXU2tjqJYjoDRFqx+nObHr08eis6t3yL2MRDQxz4 fdoD664N5GHAJzBJh9XnZ80oG0gRcCXEZNWiKUB165/UMurPTFzC9di8Fg2YPinXd2 ajQeUM8dfO4p8f5SglCOa6oCb31Bo74XDHzmxspM= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Add an appendix containing test vectors for "Initial". (#1573) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b7507cca2c9e_23863ff5bd4d45c052627c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 05:12:48 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b7507cca2c9e_23863ff5bd4d45c052627c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a much smaller example in the script I linked. That is a mere 98 octets of payload. It has an ACK frame and a valid ServerHello. It's not as easy to feed into a stack, though. The alternative is to build the much-requested ACK frame example and just encrypt a packet with that in it. Whatever we build, the example needs to be rebuilt as we update things (like the fixed salt). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1573#issuecomment-413427942 ----==_mimepart_5b7507cca2c9e_23863ff5bd4d45c052627c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have a much smaller example in the script I linked. That is a mere = 98 octets of payload. It has an ACK frame and a valid ServerHello. It's= not as easy to feed into a stack, though.

The alternative is to build the much-requested ACK frame example and j= ust encrypt a packet with that in it.

Whatever we build, the example needs to be rebuilt as we update things= (like the fixed salt).

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I think using client's Initial is beneficial because you can test the = construction of AEAD keys.

If the size of the test vectors and the need to update them for every = revision of the draft are problemsome, we can list the vectors in a separ= ate document, as @martinthomson h= as done for TLS :-) https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/d= raft-ietf-tls-tls13-vectors/

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  protocol, including the conceptual design, wire format, and mechanisms of the
 QUIC protocol for connection establishment, stream multiplexing, stream and
 connection-level flow control, connection migration, and data reliability.
 
-Accompanying documents describe QUIC's loss detection and congestion control
-{{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, and the use of TLS 1.3 for key negotiation {{QUIC-TLS}}.
+An accompanying document describes QUIC's loss detection and congestion control
+{{QUIC-RECOVERY}}. As these are sender-side only mechanisms they can be changed

Yes, the point was also to provide a reason why this is in a different doc. I used Mike's wording.

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As these are sender-side only mechanisms they can be changed +without negotiating a new QUIC version. This document specifies version +0x00000001 of QUIC which uses TLS1.3 for key negotiation as described in fixed > -QUIC version 1 conforms to the protocol invariants in {{QUIC-INVARIANTS}}. +All versions of QUIC MUST conform to the protocol invariants in +{{QUIC-INVARIANTS}}. done. > +QUIC is a name, not an acronym. K, moved it back but I find it weird there. > @@ -182,7 +188,15 @@ QUIC packet: : A well-formed UDP payload that can be parsed by a QUIC receiver. -QUIC is a name, not an acronym. +0-RTT: + +: QUIC packets containing application payload data that are encrypted with Done > @@ -293,8 +307,8 @@ Long headers are used for packets that are sent prior to the completion of version negotiation and establishment of 1-RTT keys. Once both conditions are met, a sender switches to sending packets using the short header ({{short-header}}). The long form allows for special packets - such as the -Version Negotiation packet - to be represented in this uniform fixed-length -packet format. Packets that use the long header contain the following fields: +Version Negotiation packet - to be represented in this uniform packet format. Yes, that needs a separate fix. > @@ -380,7 +394,8 @@ covers the both the Packet Number and Payload fields, both of which are confidentiality protected and initially of unknown length. The size of the Payload field is learned once the packet number protection is removed. -Senders can sometimes coalesce multiple packets into one UDP datagram. See +The length field is used to enable senders to coalesce multiple long-header I guess it does hurt to be more precise, no? Fixed wording. > @@ -466,16 +481,16 @@ Protected Payload: : Packets with a short header always include a 1-RTT protected payload. -The header form and connection ID field of a short header packet are -version-independent. The remaining fields are specific to the selected QUIC -version. See {{QUIC-INVARIANTS}} for details on how packets from different -versions of QUIC are interpreted. +The header form and connection ID field, if present, of a short header packet Okay, removed. > @@ -466,16 +481,16 @@ Protected Payload: : Packets with a short header always include a 1-RTT protected payload. -The header form and connection ID field of a short header packet are -version-independent. The remaining fields are specific to the selected QUIC -version. See {{QUIC-INVARIANTS}} for details on how packets from different -versions of QUIC are interpreted. +The header form and connection ID field, if present, of a short header packet +areversion-independent. The remaining fields are specific to the selected fixed > @@ -736,11 +751,11 @@ the Source Connection ID includes the connection ID that the sender of the packet wishes to use (see {{connection-id}}). The server MUST use consistent Source Connection IDs during the handshake. -On first receiving an Initial or Retry packet from the server, the client uses -the Source Connection ID supplied by the server as the Destination Connection ID -for subsequent packets. Once a client has received an Initial packet from the -server, it MUST discard any packet it receives with a different Source -Connection ID. +On first receiving an Initial or Retry packet from the server, the client MUST I thought making this normative makes it more clear... > @@ -842,18 +857,21 @@ used to carry acknowledgments and cryptographic handshake messages from the server and client. A server sends its cryptographic handshake in one or more Handshake packets in -response to an Initial packet if it does not send a Retry packet. Once a client -has received a Handshake packet from a server, it uses Handshake packets to send -subsequent cryptographic handshake messages and acknowledgments to the server. +response to an Initial packet (in addition to the server Initial packet) if it At this point in the doc it is actually not very clear to the reader that the server does send the Initial. I thought that would at least help a bit, however, I guess some restructuring of the doc would help more... > The Destination Connection ID field in a Handshake packet contains a connection -ID that is chosen by the recipient of the packet; the Source Connection ID -includes the connection ID that the sender of the packet wishes to use (see -{{connection-id-encoding}}). +ID that is chosen by the other endpoint of this connection as indicated in +Source Connection ID field of the previously received Initial packet from that +endpoint; the Source Connection ID includes the connection ID that the +sender of the packet wishes to use (see {{connection-id-encoding}}). Again, problem here is that the mechanism is not well described at this point of the doc. > The first Handshake packet sent by a server contains a packet number of 0. -Handshake packets are their own packet number space. Packet numbers are -incremented normally for other Handshake packets. +Handshake packets are their own packet number space. See section +{{packet-numbers}} on packet number spaces. Packet numbers are incremented Done > @@ -873,7 +891,8 @@ static handshake keys or the 0-RTT keys are sent with long headers; all packets protected with 1-RTT keys are sent with short headers. The different packet types explicitly indicate the encryption level and therefore the keys that are used to remove packet protection. 0-RTT and 1-RTT protected packets share a -single packet number space. +single packet number space. Initial and Handshake packets both have their own Done. > @@ -889,23 +908,24 @@ Packets protected with 0-RTT keys use a type value of 0x7C. The connection ID fields for a 0-RTT packet MUST match the values used in the Initial packet ({{packet-initial}}). -The client can send 0-RTT packets after receiving an Initial -{{packet-initial}} or Handshake ({{packet-handshake}}) packet, if that +The client can send further 0-RTT packets after receiving an Initial used additional > packet does not complete the handshake. Even if the client receives a different connection ID in the Handshake packet, it MUST continue to use the same Destination Connection ID for 0-RTT packets, see {{connection-id-encoding}}. -The version field for protected packets is the current QUIC version. +The version field for protected packets contains the current QUIC version. not sure that was the original meaning but if so, we should probably say this explicitly? "If present, the version field for protected packets contains the current QUIC version."...? > The packet number field contains a packet number, which has additional confidentiality protection that is applied after packet protection is applied (see {{QUIC-TLS}} for details). The underlying packet number increases with each packet sent, see {{packet-numbers}} for details. -The payload is protected using authenticated encryption. {{QUIC-TLS}} describes -packet protection in detail. After decryption, the plaintext consists of a -sequence of frames, as described in {{frames}}. +The content of 0-RTT and 1-RTT packets is protected using authenticated How is that authenticated at all? Actually payload is not used uniformly. Up to this point in the doc the word content was used. I did not double-check for the rest of the text. Probably worth using one common term. > The packet number field contains a packet number, which has additional confidentiality protection that is applied after packet protection is applied (see {{QUIC-TLS}} for details). The underlying packet number increases with each packet sent, see {{packet-numbers}} for details. -The payload is protected using authenticated encryption. {{QUIC-TLS}} describes -packet protection in detail. After decryption, the plaintext consists of a -sequence of frames, as described in {{frames}}. +The content of 0-RTT and 1-RTT packets is protected using authenticated +encryption. {{QUIC-TLS}}vdescribes packet protection in detail. After fixed > The packet number field contains a packet number, which has additional confidentiality protection that is applied after packet protection is applied (see {{QUIC-TLS}} for details). The underlying packet number increases with each packet sent, see {{packet-numbers}} for details. -The payload is protected using authenticated encryption. {{QUIC-TLS}} describes -packet protection in detail. After decryption, the plaintext consists of a -sequence of frames, as described in {{frames}}. +The content of 0-RTT and 1-RTT packets is protected using authenticated +encryption. {{QUIC-TLS}}vdescribes packet protection in detail. After +decryption, the plaintext consistsvof a sequence of frames, as described in fixed > @@ -914,14 +934,13 @@ A sender can coalesce multiple QUIC packets (typically a Cryptographic Handshake packet and a Protected packet) into one UDP datagram. This can reduce the number of UDP datagrams needed to send application data during the handshake and immediately afterwards. It is not necessary for senders to coalesce -packets, though failing to do so will require sending a significantly -larger number of datagrams during the handshake. Receivers MUST -be able to process coalesced packets. +packets, though not doing it leads larger number of datagrams during the fixed > @@ -914,14 +934,13 @@ A sender can coalesce multiple QUIC packets (typically a Cryptographic Handshake packet and a Protected packet) into one UDP datagram. This can reduce the number of UDP datagrams needed to send application data during the handshake and immediately afterwards. It is not necessary for senders to coalesce -packets, though failing to do so will require sending a significantly -larger number of datagrams during the handshake. Receivers MUST -be able to process coalesced packets. +packets, though not doing it leads larger number of datagrams during the done. > Senders SHOULD coalesce packets in order of increasing encryption levels (Initial, Handshake, 0-RTT, 1-RTT), as this makes it more likely the receiver will be able to process all the packets in a single pass. A packet with a short -header does not include a length, so it will always be the last packet included +header does not include a length, so it can only be the last packet included hm... > @@ -996,7 +1014,7 @@ response to connection migration ({{migration}}). NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames The packet number is an integer in the range 0 to 2^62-1. The value is used in determining the cryptographic nonce for packet encryption. Each endpoint -maintains a separate packet number for sending and receiving. +maintains separate packet number spaces for sending and receiving. Can you proposed a wording? > @@ -1114,7 +1132,8 @@ Stateless Reset do not contain frames. Protected payloads MUST contain at least one frame, and MAY contain multiple frames and multiple frame types. -Frames MUST fit within a single QUIC packet and MUST NOT span a QUIC packet +Frames MUST fit within a single QUIC packet, and therefore within a single +UDP datagram, and MUST NOT span a QUIC packet boundary. Each frame begins with a Frame Type, indicating its type, followed by reworded and removed the normative language. I there there is, potentially normative, text elsewhere also saying that packets cannot span multiple datagrams. > @@ -1184,7 +1203,9 @@ endpoint cannot send a frame of a type that is unknown to its peer. An extension to QUIC that wishes to use a new type of frame MUST first ensure that a peer is able to understand the frame. An endpoint can use a transport parameter to signal its willingness to receive one or more extension frame types -with the one transport parameter. +with the one transport parameter. Otherwise it is assumed that enpoints have i guess we do not have to say it that explicitly but using the wording "an endpoint CAN use TPs" implies that there is another way to use extension frames and I say we should say something about it. > @@ -1207,18 +1228,21 @@ distinguish it from other connections. A connection ID can be either 0 octets in length, or between 4 and 18 octets (inclusive). Connection IDs are selected independently in each direction. -The primary function of a connection ID is to ensure that changes in addressing -at lower protocol layers (UDP, IP, and below) don't cause packets for a QUIC -connection to be delivered to the wrong endpoint. Each endpoint selects -connection IDs using an implementation-specific (and perhaps +The primary function of a connection ID is to ensure packets can still be +assotiated with the right connection at the receiver if changes in sender fixed > @@ -1207,18 +1228,21 @@ distinguish it from other connections. A connection ID can be either 0 octets in length, or between 4 and 18 octets (inclusive). Connection IDs are selected independently in each direction. -The primary function of a connection ID is to ensure that changes in addressing -at lower protocol layers (UDP, IP, and below) don't cause packets for a QUIC -connection to be delivered to the wrong endpoint. Each endpoint selects -connection IDs using an implementation-specific (and perhaps +The primary function of a connection ID is to ensure packets can still be +assotiated with the right connection at the receiver if changes in sender +addressing at lower protocol layers (UDP, IP, and below) occur. The Connection ID +is visibe to the path to also enable the network to deliver packets for a QUIC reworded > deployment-specific) method which will allow packets with that connection ID to be routed back to the endpoint and identified by the endpoint upon receipt. A zero-length connection ID MAY be used when the connection ID is not needed for -routing and the address/port tuple of packets is sufficient to associate them to -a connection. An endpoint whose peer has selected a zero-length connection ID -MUST continue to use a zero-length connection ID for the lifetime of the -connection and MUST NOT send packets from any other local address. +routing and the address/port tuple of packets is assumed to be sufficiently stable +to associate them to a connection. An endpoint whose peer has selected a +zero-length connection ID MUST continue to use a zero-length connection ID for the +lifetime of the connection and cannot send packets from any other local address +without breaking the connection. Why? There are two changes. I added "assumed to be" which I think is more correct because you never know. And removed the normative MUST because that can also not be guarantee because something underneath could change the address. > @@ -1303,34 +1327,34 @@ the packet. Servers SHOULD NOT attempt to decode or decrypt a packet from an unknown version, but instead send a Version Negotiation packet, provided that the packet is sufficiently long. -Servers MUST drop other packets that contain unsupported versions. +Servers MUST drop packets without sending a Version Negotiation packet when the +received packet contains unsupported versions and is too small +to be an Initial packet for some version supported by the server. reworded > Servers MUST drop incoming packets under all other circumstances. They SHOULD send a Stateless Reset ({{stateless-reset}}) if a connection ID is present in the header. ## Version Negotiation Version negotiation ensures that client and server agree to a QUIC version -that is mutually supported. A server sends a Version Negotiation packet in -response to each packet that might initiate a new connection, see +that is mutually supported independent of the implemented version. A server done > Servers MUST drop incoming packets under all other circumstances. They SHOULD send a Stateless Reset ({{stateless-reset}}) if a connection ID is present in the header. ## Version Negotiation Version negotiation ensures that client and server agree to a QUIC version -that is mutually supported. A server sends a Version Negotiation packet in -response to each packet that might initiate a new connection, see +that is mutually supported independent of the implemented version. A server +can send a Version Negotiation packet in response to each packet that might +initiate a new connection and is sufficiently large, see also I just if you would want to rate limit version negotiation, this is more correct. > a 1232 octet QUIC packet payload. This includes overheads that reduce the space available to the cryptographic handshake protocol. -The CRYPTO frame can be sent in different packet number spaces. CRYPTO frames +The CRYPTO frames can be sent in different packet number spaces. CRYPTO frames ? > @@ -1578,20 +1599,26 @@ language from Section 3 of {{!TLS13=I-D.ietf-tls-tls13}}. The `extension_data` field of the quic_transport_parameters extension defined in {{QUIC-TLS}} contains a TransportParameters value. TLS encoding rules are -therefore used to encode the transport parameters. +therefore used to encode the transport parameters. As show in +{{figure-transport-parameters}} TransportParameters consists of either an done > @@ -1719,11 +1746,11 @@ type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR. ### Values of Transport Parameters for 0-RTT {#zerortt-parameters} A client that attempts to send 0-RTT data MUST remember the transport parameters -used by the server. The transport parameters that the server advertises during -connection establishment apply to all connections that are resumed using the -keying material established during that handshake. Remembered transport -parameters apply to the new connection until the handshake completes and new -transport parameters from the server can be provided. +provided by the server in the initial handshake. The transport parameters that changed > @@ -1757,27 +1784,28 @@ for transport parameters cannot be supported. ### New Transport Parameters -New transport parameters can be used to negotiate new protocol behavior. An -endpoint MUST ignore transport parameters that it does not support. Absence of -a transport parameter therefore disables any optional protocol feature that is -negotiated using the parameter. +New transport parameters can be used by the client to negotiate new protocol can you maybe propose different wording? > @@ -1757,27 +1784,28 @@ for transport parameters cannot be supported. ### New Transport Parameters -New transport parameters can be used to negotiate new protocol behavior. An -endpoint MUST ignore transport parameters that it does not support. Absence of -a transport parameter therefore disables any optional protocol feature that is -negotiated using the parameter. +New transport parameters can be used by the client to negotiate new protocol +behavior. An endpoint MUST ignore transport parameters that it does not support. +Absence of a transport parameter as provided by the server therefore disables +any optional protocol feature that is negotiated using the parameter. A server +cannot negotiation new features but can indicate the support of a new feature +that is ready to be used by the client. Howeverm it cannot assume that the client fixed > @@ -1757,27 +1784,28 @@ for transport parameters cannot be supported. ### New Transport Parameters -New transport parameters can be used to negotiate new protocol behavior. An -endpoint MUST ignore transport parameters that it does not support. Absence of -a transport parameter therefore disables any optional protocol feature that is -negotiated using the parameter. +New transport parameters can be used by the client to negotiate new protocol +behavior. An endpoint MUST ignore transport parameters that it does not support. +Absence of a transport parameter as provided by the server therefore disables +any optional protocol feature that is negotiated using the parameter. A server +cannot negotiation new features but can indicate the support of a new feature fixed > @@ -1757,27 +1784,28 @@ for transport parameters cannot be supported. ### New Transport Parameters -New transport parameters can be used to negotiate new protocol behavior. An -endpoint MUST ignore transport parameters that it does not support. Absence of -a transport parameter therefore disables any optional protocol feature that is -negotiated using the parameter. +New transport parameters can be used by the client to negotiate new protocol +behavior. An endpoint MUST ignore transport parameters that it does not support. +Absence of a transport parameter as provided by the server therefore disables +any optional protocol feature that is negotiated using the parameter. A server +cannot negotiation new features but can indicate the support of a new feature +that is ready to be used by the client. Howeverm it cannot assume that the client +understand the parameter and is ready to use that feature. just because it could use it, it does not mean it will. > New transport parameters can be registered according to the rules in {{iana-transport-parameters}}. ### Version Negotiation Validation {#version-validation} -Though the cryptographic handshake has integrity protection, two forms of QUIC -version downgrade are possible. In the first, an attacker replaces the QUIC -version in the Initial packet. In the second, a fake Version Negotiation packet -is sent by an attacker. To protect against these attacks, the transport -parameters include three fields that encode version information. These -parameters are used to retroactively authenticate the choice of version (see -{{version-negotiation}}). - -The cryptographic handshake provides integrity protection for the negotiated I was just merging it with the next paragraph. I just think the first sentence ("version downgrades are possible") was not quite correct because, while it is possible you will detect it and close the connection which kind of means it is not possible... Please propose a different wording! > New transport parameters can be registered according to the rules in {{iana-transport-parameters}}. ### Version Negotiation Validation {#version-validation} -Though the cryptographic handshake has integrity protection, two forms of QUIC -version downgrade are possible. In the first, an attacker replaces the QUIC -version in the Initial packet. In the second, a fake Version Negotiation packet -is sent by an attacker. To protect against these attacks, the transport -parameters include three fields that encode version information. These -parameters are used to retroactively authenticate the choice of version (see -{{version-negotiation}}). - -The cryptographic handshake provides integrity protection for the negotiated -version as part of the transport parameters (see {{transport-parameters}}). As +Theoretically, two forms of QUIC version downgrade are possible. In the first, you will detect them and close the connection. Does that mean it possible or not possible? > New transport parameters can be registered according to the rules in {{iana-transport-parameters}}. ### Version Negotiation Validation {#version-validation} -Though the cryptographic handshake has integrity protection, two forms of QUIC -version downgrade are possible. In the first, an attacker replaces the QUIC -version in the Initial packet. In the second, a fake Version Negotiation packet -is sent by an attacker. To protect against these attacks, the transport -parameters include three fields that encode version information. These -parameters are used to retroactively authenticate the choice of version (see -{{version-negotiation}}). - -The cryptographic handshake provides integrity protection for the negotiated -version as part of the transport parameters (see {{transport-parameters}}). As +Theoretically, two forms of QUIC version downgrade are possible. In the first, +an attacker replaces the QUIC version in the Initial packet. In the second, +a fake Version Negotiation packet is sent by an attacker. To protect against +these attacks, the cryptographic handshake provides integrity protection for +the negotiated version as part of the transport parameters. As described in Not sure what you want me to change but I did not change the wording I just merged to paragraphs into one. > -Though the cryptographic handshake has integrity protection, two forms of QUIC -version downgrade are possible. In the first, an attacker replaces the QUIC -version in the Initial packet. In the second, a fake Version Negotiation packet -is sent by an attacker. To protect against these attacks, the transport -parameters include three fields that encode version information. These -parameters are used to retroactively authenticate the choice of version (see -{{version-negotiation}}). - -The cryptographic handshake provides integrity protection for the negotiated -version as part of the transport parameters (see {{transport-parameters}}). As +Theoretically, two forms of QUIC version downgrade are possible. In the first, +an attacker replaces the QUIC version in the Initial packet. In the second, +a fake Version Negotiation packet is sent by an attacker. To protect against +these attacks, the cryptographic handshake provides integrity protection for +the negotiated version as part of the transport parameters. As described in +{{transport-parameters}} the transport parameters include three fields that done > @@ -1805,10 +1833,11 @@ QUIC versions that the server supports. The negotiated_version field is the version that is in use. This MUST be set by the server to the value that is on the Initial packet that it accepts (not an -Initial packet that triggers a Retry or Version Negotiation packet). A client -that receives a negotiated_version that does not match the version of QUIC that -is in use MUST terminate the connection with a VERSION_NEGOTIATION_ERROR error -code. +Initial packet that triggers a Retry or Version Negotiation packet). + +A client that receives a negotiated_version that does not match the version of I split it because all other paragraphs talk about server and client behavior separately. > @@ -1985,14 +2014,16 @@ validation - but a server SHOULD limit the data it sends toward an unvalidated address. Successful completion of the cryptographic handshake implicitly provides proof that the client has received packets from the server. -The client should allow for additional Retry packets being sent in +The client SHOULD allow for additional Retry packets being sent in Are these two different thing? Being prepared to receive multiple retries or sending multiple Initial packets based on one received retry packet. I had to read that multiple time but that is what I understand. Otherwise we need to rephrase that. > @@ -2290,20 +2323,20 @@ validation of the address of the spurious migration to be abandoned. ### Loss Detection and Congestion Control {#migration-cc} The capacity available on the new path might not be the same as the old path. -Packets sent on the old path SHOULD NOT contribute to congestion control or RTT -estimation for the new path. - -On confirming a peer's ownership of its new address, an endpoint SHOULD +On confirming a peer's ownership of its new address, an endpoint MUST I think the previous text was just confusing and probably not correct. > An endpoint enters a closing period after initiating an immediate close -({{immediate-close}}). While closing, an endpoint MUST NOT send packets unless -they contain a CONNECTION_CLOSE or APPLICATION_CLOSE frame (see -{{immediate-close}} for details). +({{immediate-close}}). In the closing period, an endpoint MUST NOT send done > -An endpoint MUST NOT return to the send rate used for the previous path unless -it is reasonably sure that the previous send rate is valid for the new path. -For instance, a change in the client's port number is likely indicative of a -rebinding in a middlebox and not a complete change in path. This determination -likely depends on heuristics, which could be imperfect; if the new path capacity -is significantly reduced, ultimately this relies on the congestion controller -responding to congestion signals and reducing send rates appropriately. +the new path unless it is reasonably sure that the actually network path did not +change. For instance, a change in the client's port number is likely indicative +of a rebinding in a middlebox and not a complete change in path. This +determination likely depends on heuristics, which could be imperfect; if the new +path capacity is significantly reduced, ultimately this relies on the congestion +controller responding to congestion signals and reducing send rates +appropriately. + +If the congestion controller has been reset this means that packets sent on the done > @@ -2560,11 +2594,16 @@ properly continue the connection. An endpoint that wishes to communicate a fatal connection error MUST use a closing frame if it has sufficient state to do so. -To support this process, a token is sent by endpoints. The token is carried in -the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame sent by either peer, and servers can specify the -stateless_reset_token transport parameter during the handshake (clients cannot -because their transport parameters don't have confidentiality protection). This -value is protected by encryption, so only client and server know this value. +To support this process, a token is sent by the endpoints that can be recovered +or regenerated by the endpoint based on the information available in each packet +even if the connection state was lost. This provides a protect mechanism to +identify Stateless Reset packets from an attacker. What about: "This mechanism protects against forged Stateless Retry packets that could otherwise enable an off-path attacker to close a connection." Any better? > @@ -2773,7 +2812,7 @@ encoding. The PADDING frame (type=0x00) has no semantic value. PADDING frames can be used to increase the size of a packet. Padding can be used to increase an initial client packet to the minimum required size, or to provide protection against -traffic analysis for protected packets. +traffic analysis for protected packets. PADDING frames need to be acknowleged. Yes, you are right this wording is wrong in any case. However, I now realized that the doc is actually inconsitent about PADDING frames. In section 8.4.2 it say "PADDING frames generate acknowledgements". That might be a separate PR. Removed that sentence for now. > @@ -3415,7 +3454,10 @@ acknowledged again. Because ACK frames are not sent in response to ACK-only packets, a receiver that is only sending ACK frames will only receive acknowledgements for its packets if the sender includes them in packets with non-ACK frames. A sender SHOULD -bundle ACK frames with other frames when possible. +bundle ACK frames with other frames when possible. A receiver that would only +send ACK frames therefore can trigger an ACK from the sender by sending a +frames that needs to be acknowledged. Knowing which ACKs have been received reworded > not maximally packed, to avoid sending out large numbers of small packets. An -implementation may use knowledge about application sending behavior or +implementation MAY use knowledge about application sending behavior or Was not sure here. Changed to can for unambiguity. > @@ -3713,11 +3755,11 @@ latency. ## Packet Processing and Acknowledgment {#processing-and-ack} A packet MUST NOT be acknowledged until packet protection has been successfully -removed and all frames contained in the packet have been processed. Any stream -state transitions triggered by the frame MUST have occurred. For STREAM frames, -this means the data has been enqueued in preparation to be received by the -application protocol, but it does not require that data is delivered and -consumed. +removed and all frames contained in the packet have been processed, including +any stream state transitions triggered by the frame, as described in section done > -* Application data sent in STREAM frames is retransmitted in new STREAM frames - unless the endpoint has sent a RST_STREAM for that stream. Once an endpoint - sends a RST_STREAM frame, no further STREAM frames are needed. +* Application data sent in STREAM frames is retransmitted if detected as lost, + e.g. according to the rules in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, in new STREAM frames unless done > + +-------+ | + | | + | Send STREAM / | + | STREAM_BLOCKED | + v | + +-------+ | +Send STREAM / .-| | | + STREAM_BLOCKED / | | Send | Send RST_STREAM | +Recv MAX_STREAM_DATA '>| |---------------------->| + +-------+ | + | | + | Send STREAM + FIN / | + | Recv STOP_SENDING | + v v + .-+-------+ +-------+ + Recv STOP_SEDNING | | Data | Send RST_STREAM | Reset | done > + +-------+ | + | | + | Send STREAM + FIN / | + | Recv STOP_SENDING | + v v + .-+-------+ +-------+ + Recv STOP_SEDNING | | Data | Send RST_STREAM | Reset | + '>| Sent +------------------>| Sent | + +-------+ +-------+ + | | + | Recv All ACKs | Recv ACK + v v + +-------+ +-------+ + | Data | | Reset | + | Recvd | | Recvd | + +-------+ +-------+ I added it because that fit with the text describing which messages can be send when. > + | Create Bidirectional Stream (Sending) + | Recv MAX_STREAM_DATA + | Create Higher-Numbered Stream + v + +-------+ Send STOP_SENDING + .-| |-------------------------------. +Send | | Recv | | + MAX_STREAM_SIZE '>| | Recv RST_STREAM | + +-------+-----------------------. | + | | | + | Recv STREAM + FIN | | + v | v + +-------+ | +-------+ + | Size | | | Wait | + | Known + Recv RST_STREAM | | STOP | + +-------+---------------------->| +-------+ i initially though about transition to "Data Recvd" on reception of STOP_SENDING but that would not capture that you are actually waiting for a RST_STREAM. The text is mostly there it only needs to name the new state if people agree. > @@ -4400,9 +4448,9 @@ STREAM frames ensures that loss recovery, congestion control, and flow control operate effectively. CRYPTO frames SHOULD be prioritized over other streams prior to the completion -of the cryptographic handshake. This includes the retransmission of the second -flight of client handshake messages, that is, the TLS Finished and any client -authentication messages. +of the cryptographic handshake. In {{QUIC-TLS}} this includes the retransmission +of the second flight of client handshake messages, that is the TLS Finished and +any client authentication messages. this sentence is very TLS specfic and bundles the two doc more then needed if left as a general statement. Readded the comma... > @@ -4450,7 +4498,8 @@ with the Stream ID set appropriately. A receiver could use the current offset of data consumed to determine the flow control offset to be advertised. A receiver MAY send MAX_STREAM_DATA frames in multiple packets in order to make sure that the sender receives an update before running out of flow control credit, even if -one of the packets is lost. +one of the packets is lost. As soons as the packet with the MAX_STREAM_DATA +frame is acknowlegded, there is no need to send the same max stream limit agian. the point here is that I am actually unhappy with the "in multiple packets". How much is multiple? i would assume something like 3 but others might think they are only on the safe side if they send it e.g. 20 times... I just wanted to make sure nobody gets the idea that it is most safe to just always send it. I would be more happier if you could just give a number instead of saying "in multiple packets". > @@ -4486,7 +4535,7 @@ stream before the RST_STREAM frame, and the receiver MUST use the final offset to account for all bytes sent on the stream in its connection level flow controller. -### Response to a RST_STREAM +## Response to a RST_STREAM Some of them were subsection, some were new section, however, i also do not understand why they were subsection. The way it was, was just really confusing and this was the easier fix. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1665#discussion_r210540608 ----==_mimepart_5b75633997ff3_74ba3fae3e4be62442861 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  protocol, including the conceptual design, wire format, and mechanisms of the
 QUIC protocol for connection establishment, stream multiplexing, stream and
 connection-level flow control, connection migration, and data reliability.
 
-Accompanying documents describe QUIC's loss detection and congestion control
-{{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, and the use of TLS 1.3 for key negotiation {{QUIC-TLS}}.
+An accompanying document describes QUIC's loss detection and congestion control
+{{QUIC-RECOVERY}}. As these are sender-side only mechanisms they can be changed
+without negotiating a new QUIC version. This document specifies version
+0x00000001 of QUIC which uses TLS1.3 for key negotiation as described in

fixed

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-QUIC version 1 conforms to the protocol invariants in {{QUIC-INVARIANTS}}.
+All versions of QUIC MUST conform to the protocol invariants in
+{{QUIC-INVARIANTS}}.

done.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
+QUIC is a name, not an acronym.

K, moved it back but I find it weird there.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -182,7 +188,15 @@ QUIC packet:
 
 : A well-formed UDP payload that can be parsed by a QUIC receiver.
 
-QUIC is a name, not an acronym.
+0-RTT:
+
+: QUIC packets containing application payload data that are encrypted with

Done

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -293,8 +307,8 @@ Long headers are used for packets that are sent prior to the completion of
 version negotiation and establishment of 1-RTT keys. Once both conditions are
 met, a sender switches to sending packets using the short header
 ({{short-header}}).  The long form allows for special packets - such as the
-Version Negotiation packet - to be represented in this uniform fixed-length
-packet format. Packets that use the long header contain the following fields:
+Version Negotiation packet - to be represented in this uniform packet format.

Yes, that needs a separate fix.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -380,7 +394,8 @@ covers the both the Packet Number and Payload fields, both of which are
 confidentiality protected and initially of unknown length.  The size of the
 Payload field is learned once the packet number protection is removed.
 
-Senders can sometimes coalesce multiple packets into one UDP datagram.  See
+The length field is used to enable senders to coalesce multiple long-header

I guess it does hurt to be more precise, no? Fixed wording.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -466,16 +481,16 @@ Protected Payload:
 
 : Packets with a short header always include a 1-RTT protected payload.
 
-The header form and connection ID field of a short header packet are
-version-independent.  The remaining fields are specific to the selected QUIC
-version.  See {{QUIC-INVARIANTS}} for details on how packets from different
-versions of QUIC are interpreted.
+The header form and connection ID field, if present, of a short header packet

Okay, removed.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -466,16 +481,16 @@ Protected Payload:
 
 : Packets with a short header always include a 1-RTT protected payload.
 
-The header form and connection ID field of a short header packet are
-version-independent.  The remaining fields are specific to the selected QUIC
-version.  See {{QUIC-INVARIANTS}} for details on how packets from different
-versions of QUIC are interpreted.
+The header form and connection ID field, if present, of a short header packet
+areversion-independent.  The remaining fields are specific to the selected

fixed

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -736,11 +751,11 @@ the Source Connection ID includes the connection ID that the sender of the
 packet wishes to use (see {{connection-id}}). The server MUST use consistent
 Source Connection IDs during the handshake.
 
-On first receiving an Initial or Retry packet from the server, the client uses
-the Source Connection ID supplied by the server as the Destination Connection ID
-for subsequent packets.  Once a client has received an Initial packet from the
-server, it MUST discard any packet it receives with a different Source
-Connection ID.
+On first receiving an Initial or Retry packet from the server, the client MUST

I thought making this normative makes it more clear...

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -842,18 +857,21 @@ used to carry acknowledgments and cryptographic handshake messages from the
 server and client.
 
 A server sends its cryptographic handshake in one or more Handshake packets in
-response to an Initial packet if it does not send a Retry packet.  Once a client
-has received a Handshake packet from a server, it uses Handshake packets to send
-subsequent cryptographic handshake messages and acknowledgments to the server.
+response to an Initial packet (in addition to the server Initial packet) if it

At this point in the doc it is actually not very clear to the reader that the server does send the Initial. I thought that would at least help a bit, however, I guess some restructuring of the doc would help more...

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 The Destination Connection ID field in a Handshake packet contains a connection
-ID that is chosen by the recipient of the packet; the Source Connection ID
-includes the connection ID that the sender of the packet wishes to use (see
-{{connection-id-encoding}}).
+ID that is chosen by the other endpoint of this connection as indicated in
+Source Connection ID field of the previously received Initial packet from that
+endpoint; the Source Connection ID includes the connection ID that the
+sender of the packet wishes to use (see {{connection-id-encoding}}).

Again, problem here is that the mechanism is not well described at this point of the doc.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 The first Handshake packet sent by a server contains a packet number of 0.
-Handshake packets are their own packet number space.  Packet numbers are
-incremented normally for other Handshake packets.
+Handshake packets are their own packet number space. See section
+{{packet-numbers}} on packet number spaces. Packet numbers are incremented

Done

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -873,7 +891,8 @@ static handshake keys or the 0-RTT keys are sent with long headers; all packets
 protected with 1-RTT keys are sent with short headers.  The different packet
 types explicitly indicate the encryption level and therefore the keys that are
 used to remove packet protection.  0-RTT and 1-RTT protected packets share a
-single packet number space.
+single packet number space. Initial and Handshake packets both have their own

Done.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -889,23 +908,24 @@ Packets protected with 0-RTT keys use a type value of 0x7C.  The connection ID
 fields for a 0-RTT packet MUST match the values used in the Initial packet
 ({{packet-initial}}).
 
-The client can send 0-RTT packets after receiving an Initial
-{{packet-initial}} or Handshake ({{packet-handshake}}) packet, if that
+The client can send further 0-RTT packets after receiving an Initial

used additional

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  packet does not complete the handshake.  Even if the client receives a
 different connection ID in the Handshake packet, it MUST continue to
 use the same Destination Connection ID for 0-RTT packets, see
 {{connection-id-encoding}}.
 
-The version field for protected packets is the current QUIC version.
+The version field for protected packets contains the current QUIC version.

not sure that was the original meaning but if so, we should probably say this explicitly? "If present, the version field for protected packets contains the current QUIC version."...?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 The packet number field contains a packet number, which has additional
 confidentiality protection that is applied after packet protection is applied
 (see {{QUIC-TLS}} for details).  The underlying packet number increases with
 each packet sent, see {{packet-numbers}} for details.
 
-The payload is protected using authenticated encryption.  {{QUIC-TLS}} describes
-packet protection in detail.  After decryption, the plaintext consists of a
-sequence of frames, as described in {{frames}}.
+The content of 0-RTT and 1-RTT packets is protected using authenticated

How is that authenticated at all?

Actually payload is not used uniformly. Up to this point in the doc the word content was used. I did not double-check for the rest of the text. Probably worth using one common term.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 The packet number field contains a packet number, which has additional
 confidentiality protection that is applied after packet protection is applied
 (see {{QUIC-TLS}} for details).  The underlying packet number increases with
 each packet sent, see {{packet-numbers}} for details.
 
-The payload is protected using authenticated encryption.  {{QUIC-TLS}} describes
-packet protection in detail.  After decryption, the plaintext consists of a
-sequence of frames, as described in {{frames}}.
+The content of 0-RTT and 1-RTT packets is protected using authenticated
+encryption. {{QUIC-TLS}}vdescribes packet protection in detail.  After

fixed

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 The packet number field contains a packet number, which has additional
 confidentiality protection that is applied after packet protection is applied
 (see {{QUIC-TLS}} for details).  The underlying packet number increases with
 each packet sent, see {{packet-numbers}} for details.
 
-The payload is protected using authenticated encryption.  {{QUIC-TLS}} describes
-packet protection in detail.  After decryption, the plaintext consists of a
-sequence of frames, as described in {{frames}}.
+The content of 0-RTT and 1-RTT packets is protected using authenticated
+encryption. {{QUIC-TLS}}vdescribes packet protection in detail.  After
+decryption, the plaintext consistsvof a sequence of frames, as described in

fixed

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -914,14 +934,13 @@ A sender can coalesce multiple QUIC packets (typically a Cryptographic Handshake
 packet and a Protected packet) into one UDP datagram.  This can reduce the
 number of UDP datagrams needed to send application data during the handshake and
 immediately afterwards. It is not necessary for senders to coalesce
-packets, though failing to do so will require sending a significantly
-larger number of datagrams during the handshake. Receivers MUST
-be able to process coalesced packets.
+packets, though not doing it leads larger number of datagrams during the

fixed

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -914,14 +934,13 @@ A sender can coalesce multiple QUIC packets (typically a Cryptographic Handshake
 packet and a Protected packet) into one UDP datagram.  This can reduce the
 number of UDP datagrams needed to send application data during the handshake and
 immediately afterwards. It is not necessary for senders to coalesce
-packets, though failing to do so will require sending a significantly
-larger number of datagrams during the handshake. Receivers MUST
-be able to process coalesced packets.
+packets, though not doing it leads larger number of datagrams during the

done.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 Senders SHOULD coalesce packets in order of increasing encryption levels
 (Initial, Handshake, 0-RTT, 1-RTT), as this makes it more likely the receiver
 will be able to process all the packets in a single pass.  A packet with a short
-header does not include a length, so it will always be the last packet included
+header does not include a length, so it can only be the last packet included

hm...

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -996,7 +1014,7 @@ response to connection migration ({{migration}}). NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames
 
 The packet number is an integer in the range 0 to 2^62-1. The value is used in
 determining the cryptographic nonce for packet encryption.  Each endpoint
-maintains a separate packet number for sending and receiving.
+maintains separate packet number spaces for sending and receiving.

Can you proposed a wording?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1114,7 +1132,8 @@ Stateless Reset do not contain frames.
 Protected payloads MUST contain at least one frame, and MAY contain multiple
 frames and multiple frame types.
 
-Frames MUST fit within a single QUIC packet and MUST NOT span a QUIC packet
+Frames MUST fit within a single QUIC packet, and therefore within a single
+UDP datagram, and MUST NOT span a QUIC packet
 boundary. Each frame begins with a Frame Type, indicating its type, followed by

reworded and removed the normative language. I there there is, potentially normative, text elsewhere also saying that packets cannot span multiple datagrams.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1184,7 +1203,9 @@ endpoint cannot send a frame of a type that is unknown to its peer.
 An extension to QUIC that wishes to use a new type of frame MUST first ensure
 that a peer is able to understand the frame.  An endpoint can use a transport
 parameter to signal its willingness to receive one or more extension frame types
-with the one transport parameter.
+with the one transport parameter. Otherwise it is assumed that enpoints have

i guess we do not have to say it that explicitly but using the wording "an endpoint CAN use TPs" implies that there is another way to use extension frames and I say we should say something about it.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1207,18 +1228,21 @@ distinguish it from other connections.  A connection ID can be either 0 octets
 in length, or between 4 and 18 octets (inclusive).  Connection IDs are selected
 independently in each direction.
 
-The primary function of a connection ID is to ensure that changes in addressing
-at lower protocol layers (UDP, IP, and below) don't cause packets for a QUIC
-connection to be delivered to the wrong endpoint.  Each endpoint selects
-connection IDs using an implementation-specific (and perhaps
+The primary function of a connection ID is to ensure packets can still be
+assotiated with the right connection at the receiver if changes in sender

fixed

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1207,18 +1228,21 @@ distinguish it from other connections.  A connection ID can be either 0 octets
 in length, or between 4 and 18 octets (inclusive).  Connection IDs are selected
 independently in each direction.
 
-The primary function of a connection ID is to ensure that changes in addressing
-at lower protocol layers (UDP, IP, and below) don't cause packets for a QUIC
-connection to be delivered to the wrong endpoint.  Each endpoint selects
-connection IDs using an implementation-specific (and perhaps
+The primary function of a connection ID is to ensure packets can still be
+assotiated with the right connection at the receiver if changes in sender
+addressing at lower protocol layers (UDP, IP, and below) occur. The Connection ID
+is visibe to the path to also enable the network to deliver packets for a QUIC

reworded

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  deployment-specific) method which will allow packets with that connection ID to
 be routed back to the endpoint and identified by the endpoint upon receipt.
 
 A zero-length connection ID MAY be used when the connection ID is not needed for
-routing and the address/port tuple of packets is sufficient to associate them to
-a connection. An endpoint whose peer has selected a zero-length connection ID
-MUST continue to use a zero-length connection ID for the lifetime of the
-connection and MUST NOT send packets from any other local address.
+routing and the address/port tuple of packets is assumed to be sufficiently stable
+to associate them to a connection. An endpoint whose peer has selected a
+zero-length connection ID MUST continue to use a zero-length connection ID for the
+lifetime of the connection and cannot send packets from any other local address
+without breaking the connection.

Why? There are two changes. I added "assumed to be" which I think is more correct because you never know. And removed the normative MUST because that can also not be guarantee because something underneath could change the address.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1303,34 +1327,34 @@ the packet.  Servers SHOULD NOT attempt to decode or decrypt a packet from an
 unknown version, but instead send a Version Negotiation packet, provided that
 the packet is sufficiently long.
 
-Servers MUST drop other packets that contain unsupported versions.
+Servers MUST drop packets without sending a Version Negotiation packet when the
+received packet contains unsupported versions and is too small
+to be an Initial packet for some version supported by the server.

reworded

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  Servers MUST drop incoming packets under all other circumstances. They
 SHOULD send a Stateless Reset ({{stateless-reset}}) if a connection ID
 is present in the header.
 
 ## Version Negotiation
 
 Version negotiation ensures that client and server agree to a QUIC version
-that is mutually supported. A server sends a Version Negotiation packet in
-response to each packet that might initiate a new connection, see
+that is mutually supported independent of the implemented version. A server

done

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  Servers MUST drop incoming packets under all other circumstances. They
 SHOULD send a Stateless Reset ({{stateless-reset}}) if a connection ID
 is present in the header.
 
 ## Version Negotiation
 
 Version negotiation ensures that client and server agree to a QUIC version
-that is mutually supported. A server sends a Version Negotiation packet in
-response to each packet that might initiate a new connection, see
+that is mutually supported independent of the implemented version. A server
+can send a Version Negotiation packet in response to each packet that might
+initiate a new connection and is sufficiently large, see also

I just if you would want to rate limit version negotiation, this is more correct.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  a 1232 octet QUIC packet payload.  This includes overheads that reduce the space
 available to the cryptographic handshake protocol.
 
-The CRYPTO frame can be sent in different packet number spaces.  CRYPTO frames
+The CRYPTO frames can be sent in different packet number spaces.  CRYPTO frames

?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1578,20 +1599,26 @@ language from Section 3 of {{!TLS13=I-D.ietf-tls-tls13}}.
 
 The `extension_data` field of the quic_transport_parameters extension defined in
 {{QUIC-TLS}} contains a TransportParameters value.  TLS encoding rules are
-therefore used to encode the transport parameters.
+therefore used to encode the transport parameters. As show in
+{{figure-transport-parameters}} TransportParameters consists of either an

done

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1719,11 +1746,11 @@ type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR.
 ### Values of Transport Parameters for 0-RTT {#zerortt-parameters}
 
 A client that attempts to send 0-RTT data MUST remember the transport parameters
-used by the server.  The transport parameters that the server advertises during
-connection establishment apply to all connections that are resumed using the
-keying material established during that handshake.  Remembered transport
-parameters apply to the new connection until the handshake completes and new
-transport parameters from the server can be provided.
+provided by the server in the initial handshake.  The transport parameters that

changed

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1757,27 +1784,28 @@ for transport parameters cannot be supported.
 
 ### New Transport Parameters
 
-New transport parameters can be used to negotiate new protocol behavior.  An
-endpoint MUST ignore transport parameters that it does not support.  Absence of
-a transport parameter therefore disables any optional protocol feature that is
-negotiated using the parameter.
+New transport parameters can be used by the client to negotiate new protocol

can you maybe propose different wording?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1757,27 +1784,28 @@ for transport parameters cannot be supported.
 
 ### New Transport Parameters
 
-New transport parameters can be used to negotiate new protocol behavior.  An
-endpoint MUST ignore transport parameters that it does not support.  Absence of
-a transport parameter therefore disables any optional protocol feature that is
-negotiated using the parameter.
+New transport parameters can be used by the client to negotiate new protocol
+behavior.  An endpoint MUST ignore transport parameters that it does not support.
+Absence of a transport parameter as provided by the server therefore disables
+any optional protocol feature that is negotiated using the parameter. A server
+cannot negotiation new features but can indicate the support of a new feature
+that is ready to be used by the client. Howeverm it cannot assume that the client

fixed

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1757,27 +1784,28 @@ for transport parameters cannot be supported.
 
 ### New Transport Parameters
 
-New transport parameters can be used to negotiate new protocol behavior.  An
-endpoint MUST ignore transport parameters that it does not support.  Absence of
-a transport parameter therefore disables any optional protocol feature that is
-negotiated using the parameter.
+New transport parameters can be used by the client to negotiate new protocol
+behavior.  An endpoint MUST ignore transport parameters that it does not support.
+Absence of a transport parameter as provided by the server therefore disables
+any optional protocol feature that is negotiated using the parameter. A server
+cannot negotiation new features but can indicate the support of a new feature

fixed

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1757,27 +1784,28 @@ for transport parameters cannot be supported.
 
 ### New Transport Parameters
 
-New transport parameters can be used to negotiate new protocol behavior.  An
-endpoint MUST ignore transport parameters that it does not support.  Absence of
-a transport parameter therefore disables any optional protocol feature that is
-negotiated using the parameter.
+New transport parameters can be used by the client to negotiate new protocol
+behavior.  An endpoint MUST ignore transport parameters that it does not support.
+Absence of a transport parameter as provided by the server therefore disables
+any optional protocol feature that is negotiated using the parameter. A server
+cannot negotiation new features but can indicate the support of a new feature
+that is ready to be used by the client. Howeverm it cannot assume that the client
+understand the parameter and is ready to use that feature.

just because it could use it, it does not mean it will.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 New transport parameters can be registered according to the rules in
 {{iana-transport-parameters}}.
 
 
 ### Version Negotiation Validation {#version-validation}
 
-Though the cryptographic handshake has integrity protection, two forms of QUIC
-version downgrade are possible.  In the first, an attacker replaces the QUIC
-version in the Initial packet.  In the second, a fake Version Negotiation packet
-is sent by an attacker.  To protect against these attacks, the transport
-parameters include three fields that encode version information.  These
-parameters are used to retroactively authenticate the choice of version (see
-{{version-negotiation}}).
-
-The cryptographic handshake provides integrity protection for the negotiated

I was just merging it with the next paragraph. I just think the first sentence ("version downgrades are possible") was not quite correct because, while it is possible you will detect it and close the connection which kind of means it is not possible... Please propose a different wording!

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 New transport parameters can be registered according to the rules in
 {{iana-transport-parameters}}.
 
 
 ### Version Negotiation Validation {#version-validation}
 
-Though the cryptographic handshake has integrity protection, two forms of QUIC
-version downgrade are possible.  In the first, an attacker replaces the QUIC
-version in the Initial packet.  In the second, a fake Version Negotiation packet
-is sent by an attacker.  To protect against these attacks, the transport
-parameters include three fields that encode version information.  These
-parameters are used to retroactively authenticate the choice of version (see
-{{version-negotiation}}).
-
-The cryptographic handshake provides integrity protection for the negotiated
-version as part of the transport parameters (see {{transport-parameters}}).  As
+Theoretically, two forms of QUIC version downgrade are possible.  In the first,

you will detect them and close the connection. Does that mean it possible or not possible?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 New transport parameters can be registered according to the rules in
 {{iana-transport-parameters}}.
 
 
 ### Version Negotiation Validation {#version-validation}
 
-Though the cryptographic handshake has integrity protection, two forms of QUIC
-version downgrade are possible.  In the first, an attacker replaces the QUIC
-version in the Initial packet.  In the second, a fake Version Negotiation packet
-is sent by an attacker.  To protect against these attacks, the transport
-parameters include three fields that encode version information.  These
-parameters are used to retroactively authenticate the choice of version (see
-{{version-negotiation}}).
-
-The cryptographic handshake provides integrity protection for the negotiated
-version as part of the transport parameters (see {{transport-parameters}}).  As
+Theoretically, two forms of QUIC version downgrade are possible.  In the first,
+an attacker replaces the QUIC version in the Initial packet.  In the second,
+a fake Version Negotiation packet is sent by an attacker.  To protect against
+these attacks, the cryptographic handshake provides integrity protection for
+the negotiated version as part of the transport parameters. As described in

Not sure what you want me to change but I did not change the wording I just merged to paragraphs into one.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -Though the cryptographic handshake has integrity protection, two forms of QUIC
-version downgrade are possible.  In the first, an attacker replaces the QUIC
-version in the Initial packet.  In the second, a fake Version Negotiation packet
-is sent by an attacker.  To protect against these attacks, the transport
-parameters include three fields that encode version information.  These
-parameters are used to retroactively authenticate the choice of version (see
-{{version-negotiation}}).
-
-The cryptographic handshake provides integrity protection for the negotiated
-version as part of the transport parameters (see {{transport-parameters}}).  As
+Theoretically, two forms of QUIC version downgrade are possible.  In the first,
+an attacker replaces the QUIC version in the Initial packet.  In the second,
+a fake Version Negotiation packet is sent by an attacker.  To protect against
+these attacks, the cryptographic handshake provides integrity protection for
+the negotiated version as part of the transport parameters. As described in
+{{transport-parameters}} the transport parameters include three fields that

done

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1805,10 +1833,11 @@ QUIC versions that the server supports.
 
 The negotiated_version field is the version that is in use.  This MUST be set by
 the server to the value that is on the Initial packet that it accepts (not an
-Initial packet that triggers a Retry or Version Negotiation packet).  A client
-that receives a negotiated_version that does not match the version of QUIC that
-is in use MUST terminate the connection with a VERSION_NEGOTIATION_ERROR error
-code.
+Initial packet that triggers a Retry or Version Negotiation packet).
+
+A client that receives a negotiated_version that does not match the version of

I split it because all other paragraphs talk about server and client behavior separately.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1985,14 +2014,16 @@ validation - but a server SHOULD limit the data it sends toward an unvalidated
 address.  Successful completion of the cryptographic handshake implicitly
 provides proof that the client has received packets from the server.
 
-The client should allow for additional Retry packets being sent in
+The client SHOULD allow for additional Retry packets being sent in

Are these two different thing? Being prepared to receive multiple retries or sending multiple Initial packets based on one received retry packet. I had to read that multiple time but that is what I understand. Otherwise we need to rephrase that.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2290,20 +2323,20 @@ validation of the address of the spurious migration to be abandoned.
 ### Loss Detection and Congestion Control {#migration-cc}
 
 The capacity available on the new path might not be the same as the old path.
-Packets sent on the old path SHOULD NOT contribute to congestion control or RTT
-estimation for the new path.
-
-On confirming a peer's ownership of its new address, an endpoint SHOULD
+On confirming a peer's ownership of its new address, an endpoint MUST

I think the previous text was just confusing and probably not correct.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 An endpoint enters a closing period after initiating an immediate close
-({{immediate-close}}).  While closing, an endpoint MUST NOT send packets unless
-they contain a CONNECTION_CLOSE or APPLICATION_CLOSE frame (see
-{{immediate-close}} for details).
+({{immediate-close}}).  In the closing period, an endpoint MUST NOT send

done

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -An endpoint MUST NOT return to the send rate used for the previous path unless
-it is reasonably sure that the previous send rate is valid for the new path.
-For instance, a change in the client's port number is likely indicative of a
-rebinding in a middlebox and not a complete change in path.  This determination
-likely depends on heuristics, which could be imperfect; if the new path capacity
-is significantly reduced, ultimately this relies on the congestion controller
-responding to congestion signals and reducing send rates appropriately.
+the new path unless it is reasonably sure that the actually network path did not
+change. For instance, a change in the client's port number is likely indicative
+of a rebinding in a middlebox and not a complete change in path.  This
+determination likely depends on heuristics, which could be imperfect; if the new
+path capacity is significantly reduced, ultimately this relies on the congestion
+controller responding to congestion signals and reducing send rates
+appropriately.
+
+If the congestion controller has been reset this means that packets sent on the

done

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2560,11 +2594,16 @@ properly continue the connection.  An endpoint that wishes to communicate a
 fatal connection error MUST use a closing frame if it has sufficient state to do
 so.
 
-To support this process, a token is sent by endpoints.  The token is carried in
-the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame sent by either peer, and servers can specify the
-stateless_reset_token transport parameter during the handshake (clients cannot
-because their transport parameters don't have confidentiality protection).  This
-value is protected by encryption, so only client and server know this value.
+To support this process, a token is sent by the endpoints that can be recovered
+or regenerated by the endpoint based on the information available in each packet
+even if the connection state was lost. This provides a protect mechanism to
+identify Stateless Reset packets from an attacker.

What about: "This mechanism protects against forged Stateless Retry packets that could otherwise enable an off-path attacker to close a connection." Any better?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2773,7 +2812,7 @@ encoding.
 The PADDING frame (type=0x00) has no semantic value.  PADDING frames can be used
 to increase the size of a packet.  Padding can be used to increase an initial
 client packet to the minimum required size, or to provide protection against
-traffic analysis for protected packets.
+traffic analysis for protected packets. PADDING frames need to be acknowleged.

Yes, you are right this wording is wrong in any case. However, I now realized that the doc is actually inconsitent about PADDING frames. In section 8.4.2 it say "PADDING frames generate acknowledgements". That might be a separate PR. Removed that sentence for now.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3415,7 +3454,10 @@ acknowledged again.
 Because ACK frames are not sent in response to ACK-only packets, a receiver that
 is only sending ACK frames will only receive acknowledgements for its packets
 if the sender includes them in packets with non-ACK frames.  A sender SHOULD
-bundle ACK frames with other frames when possible.
+bundle ACK frames with other frames when possible. A receiver that would only
+send ACK frames therefore can trigger an ACK from the sender by sending a
+frames that needs to be acknowledged. Knowing which ACKs have been received

reworded

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  not maximally packed, to avoid sending out large numbers of small packets.  An
-implementation may use knowledge about application sending behavior or
+implementation MAY use knowledge about application sending behavior or

Was not sure here. Changed to can for unambiguity.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3713,11 +3755,11 @@ latency.
 ## Packet Processing and Acknowledgment {#processing-and-ack}
 
 A packet MUST NOT be acknowledged until packet protection has been successfully
-removed and all frames contained in the packet have been processed.  Any stream
-state transitions triggered by the frame MUST have occurred.  For STREAM frames,
-this means the data has been enqueued in preparation to be received by the
-application protocol, but it does not require that data is delivered and
-consumed.
+removed and all frames contained in the packet have been processed, including
+any stream state transitions triggered by the frame, as described in section

done

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-* Application data sent in STREAM frames is retransmitted in new STREAM frames
-  unless the endpoint has sent a RST_STREAM for that stream.  Once an endpoint
-  sends a RST_STREAM frame, no further STREAM frames are needed.
+* Application data sent in STREAM frames is retransmitted if detected as lost,
+  e.g. according to the rules in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, in new STREAM frames unless

done

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +                        +-------+                       |
+                            |                           |
+                            | Send STREAM /             |
+                            |      STREAM_BLOCKED       |
+                            v                           |
+                        +-------+                       |
+Send STREAM /         .-|       |                       |
+     STREAM_BLOCKED / | | Send  | Send RST_STREAM       |
+Recv MAX_STREAM_DATA  '>|       |---------------------->|
+                        +-------+                       |
+                            |                           |
+                            | Send STREAM + FIN /       |
+                            | Recv STOP_SENDING         |
+                            v                           v
+                      .-+-------+                   +-------+
+    Recv STOP_SEDNING | | Data  | Send RST_STREAM   | Reset |

done

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +                        +-------+                       |
+                            |                           |
+                            | Send STREAM + FIN /       |
+                            | Recv STOP_SENDING         |
+                            v                           v
+                      .-+-------+                   +-------+
+    Recv STOP_SEDNING | | Data  | Send RST_STREAM   | Reset |
+                      '>| Sent  +------------------>| Sent  |
+                        +-------+                   +-------+
+                            |                           |
+                            | Recv All ACKs             | Recv ACK
+                            v                           v
+                        +-------+                   +-------+
+                        | Data  |                   | Reset |
+                        | Recvd |                   | Recvd |
+                        +-------+                   +-------+

I added it because that fit with the text describing which messages can be send when.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +                       | Create Bidirectional Stream (Sending)
+                       | Recv MAX_STREAM_DATA
+                       | Create Higher-Numbered Stream
+                       v
+                   +-------+ Send STOP_SENDING
+                 .-|       |-------------------------------.
+Send             | | Recv  |                               |
+ MAX_STREAM_SIZE '>|       | Recv RST_STREAM               |
+                   +-------+-----------------------.       |
+                       |                           |       |
+                       | Recv STREAM + FIN         |       |
+                       v                           |       v
+                   +-------+                       |   +-------+
+                   | Size  |                       |   | Wait  |
+                   | Known + Recv RST_STREAM       |   | STOP  |
+                   +-------+---------------------->|   +-------+

i initially though about transition to "Data Recvd" on reception of STOP_SENDING but that would not capture that you are actually waiting for a RST_STREAM.

The text is mostly there it only needs to name the new state if people agree.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4400,9 +4448,9 @@ STREAM frames ensures that loss recovery, congestion control, and flow control
 operate effectively.
 
 CRYPTO frames SHOULD be prioritized over other streams prior to the completion
-of the cryptographic handshake.  This includes the retransmission of the second
-flight of client handshake messages, that is, the TLS Finished and any client
-authentication messages.
+of the cryptographic handshake.  In {{QUIC-TLS}} this includes the retransmission
+of the second flight of client handshake messages, that is the TLS Finished and
+any client authentication messages.

this sentence is very TLS specfic and bundles the two doc more then needed if left as a general statement.

Readded the comma...

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4450,7 +4498,8 @@ with the Stream ID set appropriately. A receiver could use the current offset of
 data consumed to determine the flow control offset to be advertised.  A receiver
 MAY send MAX_STREAM_DATA frames in multiple packets in order to make sure that
 the sender receives an update before running out of flow control credit, even if
-one of the packets is lost.
+one of the packets is lost. As soons as the packet with the MAX_STREAM_DATA
+frame is acknowlegded, there is no need to send the same max stream limit agian.

the point here is that I am actually unhappy with the "in multiple packets". How much is multiple? i would assume something like 3 but others might think they are only on the safe side if they send it e.g. 20 times... I just wanted to make sure nobody gets the idea that it is most safe to just always send it. I would be more happier if you could just give a number instead of saying "in multiple packets".

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4486,7 +4535,7 @@ stream before the RST_STREAM frame, and the receiver MUST use the final offset
 to account for all bytes sent on the stream in its connection level flow
 controller.
 
-### Response to a RST_STREAM
+## Response to a RST_STREAM

Some of them were subsection, some were new section, however, i also do not understand why they were subsection. The way it was, was just really confusing and this was the easier fix.

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If that's what you wanted, you would need that, but if the connection isn't receiving any packets, not sending acks is the right thing, so I think the new clause in the PR: "if new packets needing acknowledgement were received." covers that?

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@nibanks commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -996,7 +1014,7 @@ response to connection migration ({{migration}}). NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames
 
 The packet number is an integer in the range 0 to 2^62-1. The value is used in
 determining the cryptographic nonce for packet encryption.  Each endpoint
-maintains a separate packet number for sending and receiving.
+maintains separate packet number spaces for sending and receiving.

Maybe just keep the working from before and prepend Per packet number space,.

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However, just using the delayed ack timer would not fulfill the requirement of one ACK per RTT. Assume a scenario where you send packets and you ack the last packet and then send nothing for about one RTT and then send one more packet. In that scenario you should ack immediately because you didn't send an ACK in the last RTT and should not wait for the delayed ack timer to expire. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1662#issuecomment-413582923 ----==_mimepart_5b75964a94ded_10283ff42a2d45c02778e8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yes, if you don't receive anything that is fine. However, just using t= he delayed ack timer would not fulfill the requirement of one ACK per RTT= . Assume a scenario where you send packets and you ack the last packet an= d then send nothing for about one RTT and then send one more packet. In t= hat scenario you should ack immediately because you didn't send an ACK in= the last RTT and should not wait for the delayed ack timer to expire.

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Also I noticed that the QUIC overview section was removed on -11. I agree that the text in that section was not great but I think it would help a reader, who is not familar with quic, a lot to have a (non-normative) section first explaining the main concepts (multiplexing/streams/frames, how encryption works/session resumption, reliability/packet numbers, maybe also flow control, migration, and versioning). Here are a bunch of micro re-org suggestions based on -14 (however I agree with the general stuture @martinthomson prposes above which at minimim would mean to move section 8 much earlier in the doc): - section 5 (Frames and Frame Type) should be merged with section 7 (Frame Types and Format): I guess the intention was to provide the reader a full list with all frame types early on. That was actually rather confusing than helpful. I think it is okay to just provide a reference to the respective section later in the doc whenever a frame type is mention that was not introduced yet. - I would recommend to merge the text in section 6.6.3 (New Transports Paramters) just in the intro text of section 6.6. (Transport Paramter) - Section 6.7 (Stateless Retry) needs to show up earlier in section 6 because it is mentioned in previous subsections. - Most text in the intro part of section 6.9 (Proof of Source Address Validation) sounds like it should rather be in the security considerations section... - Section 6.11.5 (Privacy Implications of Connection Migration) really seems to belong in the secuirty considerations instead. - I would recommend to have section 6.12.4.2 (Calculating a Stateless Rest Token) before section 6.13.4.1 (Detecting a Stateless Reset). - Depending on the final order I think there is some text in section 9 that belongs in section 7.20. I think in any case section 7.20 should also talk about the meaning of the last two bits. I would recommend to talk about the bit encoding only in section 7.20 and just introduce the concepts of bi/uni-direction and server/client-initiated in section 9. - I would recommend to have the section on sending and receiving data (9.5) before the state diagrams are introduced. - Order of section 10 (Flow Control) seemed completely random to me. Also not quite an issue on document structure directly, but definitely related and should probably be cleaned up together, is that there are a couple of duplicted normative statements, e.g. sec 7.8. (MAX_STREAM_ID Frame) "Loss or reordering can mean that a MAX_STREAM_ID frame can be received which states a lower stream limit than the client has previously received. MAX_STREAM_ID frames which do not increase the maximum stream ID MUST be ignored." sec 9.4 (Stream Concurrency) "A receiver cannot renege on an advertisement; that is, once a receiver advertises a stream ID via a MAX_STREAM_ID frame, advertising a smaller maximum ID has no effect. A sender MUST ignore any MAX_STREAM_ID frame that does not increase the maximum stream ID." sec 10 (Flow Control) "A receiver MAY advertise a larger offset at any point by sending MAX_DATA or MAX_STREAM_DATA frames. A receiver cannot renege on an advertisement; that is, once a receiver advertises an offset, advertising a smaller offset has no effect. A sender MUST therefore ignore any MAX_DATA or MAX_STREAM_DATA frames that do not increase flow control limits." These normative statements do all say the same thing but are worded slightly different. To avoid any ambiguity, I would recommend to state these things normatively only once. 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I did a fully review of transport-14 and can confirm that the current = organization is not super great as a lot of concepts you need to understa= nd the details are explained too late in the doc. Also I noticed that the= QUIC overview section was removed on -11. I agree that the text in that = section was not great but I think it would help a reader, who is not fami= lar with quic, a lot to have a (non-normative) section first explaining t= he main concepts (multiplexing/streams/frames, how encryption works/sessi= on resumption, reliability/packet numbers, maybe also flow control, migra= tion, and versioning).

Here are a bunch of micro re-org suggestions based on -14 (however I a= gree with the general stuture @martin= thomson prposes above which at minimim would mean to move section 8 m= uch earlier in the doc):

  • section 5 (Frames and Frame Type) should be merged with section 7 (Fra= me Types and Format): I guess the intention was to provide the reader a f= ull list with all frame types early on. That was actually rather confusin= g than helpful. I think it is okay to just provide a reference to the res= pective section later in the doc whenever a frame type is mention that wa= s not introduced yet.

  • I would recommend to merge the text in section 6.6.3 (New Transports P= aramters) just in the intro text of section 6.6. (Transport Paramter)

    =

  • Section 6.7 (Stateless Retry) needs to show up earlier in section 6 be= cause it is mentioned in previous subsections.

  • Most text in the intro part of section 6.9 (Proof of Source Address Va= lidation) sounds like it should rather be in the security considerations = section...

  • Section 6.11.5 (Privacy Implications of Connection Migration) really s= eems to belong in the secuirty considerations instead.

  • I would recommend to have section 6.12.4.2 (Calculating a Stateless Re= st Token) before section 6.13.4.1 (Detecting a Stateless Reset).

  • Depending on the final order I think there is some text in section 9 t= hat belongs in section 7.20. I think in any case section 7.20 should also= talk about the meaning of the last two bits. I would recommend to talk a= bout the bit encoding only in section 7.20 and just introduce the concept= s of bi/uni-direction and server/client-initiated in section 9.

  • I would recommend to have the section on sending and receiving data (9= .5) before the state diagrams are introduced.

  • Order of section 10 (Flow Control) seemed completely random to me.

    =

Also not quite an issue on document structure directly, but definitely= related and should probably be cleaned up together, is that there are a = couple of duplicted normative statements, e.g.

sec 7.8. (MAX_STREAM_ID Frame)
"Loss or reordering can mean that a MAX_STREAM_ID frame can be
received which states a lower stream limit than the client has
previously received. MAX_STREAM_ID frames which do not increase the
maximum stream ID MUST be ignored."
sec 9.4 (Stream Concurrency)
"A receiver cannot renege on an advertisement; that is, once a
receiver advertises a stream ID via a MAX_STREAM_ID frame,
advertising a smaller maximum ID has no effect. A sender MUST ignore
= any MAX_STREAM_ID frame that does not increase the maximum stream ID." sec 10 (Flow Control)
"A receiver MAY advertise a larger offset at any point by sending
MAX_DATA or MAX_STREAM_DATA frames. A receiver cannot renege on an
advertisement; that is, once a receiver advertises an offset,
advertising a smaller offset has no effect. A sender MUST therefore
ignore any MAX_DATA or MAX_STREAM_DATA frames that do not increase
flow control limits."

These normative statements do all say the same thing but are worded sl= ightly different. To avoid any ambiguity, I would recommend to state thes= e things normatively only once. There are a few more of these kind of cas= es...

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= ----==_mimepart_5b75a14237a9_15603f84a3ad45b4627078-- From nobody Thu Aug 16 09:14:27 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE74D130E6A for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 09:14:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oLcFEBuoJk5U for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 09:14:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o5.sgmail.github.com (o5.sgmail.github.com [192.254.113.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1DB9F130DDA for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 09:14:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=UnC76ueT9TMAj7zAzrSMSoHyQxs=; b=dUpqtylEahrYRCp0 MoaYDRWGh5sT8aLozJEfYNZXq9/brR/Q05211v1xlkvQQ2l7cFDo17+5aHs68U2B +90ZRnp/jKkrwhofTrP/qcZQSc/Q+xwO4LcIl0+WcB/rTiWzYsqw3DCkb7Fd0dzl b4BC+xVs5zHH+otvn6wgbm6+m/4= Received: by filter1103p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter1103p1las1-7733-5B75A2DE-27 2018-08-16 16:14:22.662016026 +0000 UTC m=+232494.907658777 Received: from github-lowworker-5909e27.cp1-iad.github.net (unknown [192.30.252.35]) by ismtpd0001p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id -q4cl5oKRJOBsnUS6Go-RA for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 16:14:22.569 +0000 (UTC) Received: from github.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by github-lowworker-5909e27.cp1-iad.github.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8853F3E0C66 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 09:14:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 16:14:22 +0000 (UTC) From: mirjak Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Greasing version negotiation (#1668) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b75a2de86451_23703f88e3ad45c0116049e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mirjak X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak0le6pD5rrKt7128mm16CqrO3/xCaIWkA2ZA6 MswBLY0zdUH6UduCOapLXnVDk8kiR+b4rCoFUQwKN+5Y/zo1MiLTdIy1MSCSDRtl0WprkwWdzw32og py+0iI5yYP2+EHX72KF5bT6AVkoLlue+8DeVIJloLs49AzWkzsiGwMevrQ== Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 16:14:26 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b75a2de86451_23703f88e3ad45c0116049e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I know this was discussed and concluded early on but I would like to bring this up again as probably the plan for versioning quic quickly has changed since. The transport draft currently says: "Versions that follow the pattern 0x?a?a?a?a are reserved for use in forcing version negotiation to be exercised. That is, any version number where the low four bits of all octets is 1010 (in binary). A client or server MAY advertise support for any of these reserved versions." My question: Are people actually implemening and using this? Because forcing version negotiation means additional latency. I would assume that publishing a next version quickly and actually using version negotiation as indented is the better greasing. So basically this is a quick check if we still want to have that text. I assume we can quickly agree and close this issue again! -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1668 ----==_mimepart_5b75a2de86451_23703f88e3ad45c0116049e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I know this was discussed and concluded early on but I would like to bring this up again as probably the plan for versioning quic quickly has changed since.

The transport draft currently says:
"Versions that follow the pattern 0x?a?a?a?a are reserved for use in
forcing version negotiation to be exercised. That is, any version
number where the low four bits of all octets is 1010 (in binary). A
client or server MAY advertise support for any of these reserved
versions."

My question: Are people actually implemening and using this? Because forcing version negotiation means additional latency. I would assume that publishing a next version quickly and actually using version negotiation as indented is the better greasing.

So basically this is a quick check if we still want to have that text. I assume we can quickly agree and close this issue again!

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Given that PN encryption is not TLS specific and could/should be performed the same way even if a different crypto handshake protocol is used, I wonder if that part should rather go in the tranport draft. Not that the tls draft is actually named "Using Transport Layer Security (TLS) to Secure QUIC".

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Sec "Connection ID" says
"Each connection ID MUST be used on only one local address."
Not sure if that is a valid MUST because that may not be guaranteed by the lower layer.

Sec "Client Packet Handling" says
"Packets that don't match an existing
connection MAY be discarded."
Why is that a MAY?

Sec "Handling Version Negotiation Packets"
"Similarly, a client MUST ignore a Version Negotiation
packet if it has already received and acted on a Version Negotiation
packet."
Is that correct? An attcker should send an invalid VN packet first. Wouldn't it help to react to at least a few?

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The transport draft leaves it currently open to the receiver to delivery outstanding and newly received data to the application after RST_STREAM was received. This introduces some ambiguity for flow control (see section "Edge Caeses and Other Considerations"). Further it may incentive wrong use of RST_STREAM and provide unepxected behavior between different quic implementation ("I always used RST here and data was correctly delivered...").

I would recommend to clearly specify that all data must be immediately dropped if RST_STREAM is received because that should only be send in an error case where that data is not useful anymore anyway.

(Effectly you don't even need the final offset in the RST_STREAM frame in that case anymore, but I guess that doesn't hurt.)

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The transport draft says:
"When an endpoint accepts multiple QUIC versions, it can potentially
interpret transport parameters as they are defined by any of the QUIC
versions it supports. The version field in the QUIC packet header is
authenticated using transport parameters. The position and the
format of the version fields in transport parameters MUST either be
identical across different QUIC versions, or be unambiguously
different to ensure no confusion about their interpretation. One way
that a new format could be introduced is to define a TLS extension
with a different codepoint."
It seems that this actually belongs in the invariants draft.

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----==_mimepart_5b75a90868b3d_1d1c3fcc9d0d45b820911ab-- From nobody Thu Aug 16 09:45:19 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9DA81277BB for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 09:45:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id E71NeEcQeXIx for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 09:45:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-9.smtp.github.com (out-9.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EDE251252B7 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 09:45:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 09:45:14 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534437914; bh=bxqKk3G9ZVeafMnMQ5ADE2oasCMG4R96WcZBIPWona0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=hZQsEIA3gzkD9Nd/P0YG0HzHpp979BSAaPO32UPQTDtWz/SjLNydNYp3InV1IgWdL UW3JOolXGhO8EIUpeMtVCp4mz3VwWCExue9e/vns7KxzxnN9XJyuZuqwPyWMOIofhq 6+T3DrrW7xk6hYbTz1lScOg96DXA5rBfr842Bztk= From: mirjak Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Recommendation for rate limits (#1673) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b75aa1a76cd9_45ee3fc0cf4be61c150612a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mirjak X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 16:45:17 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b75aa1a76cd9_45ee3fc0cf4be61c150612a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There are to recommended/required rate limits in the transport draft: "an endpoint MAY limit the rate at which it sends PATH_RESPONSE frames" and "Until a peer's address is deemed valid, an endpoint MUST limit the rate at which it sends data to this address." Can we maybe provide more guidance what those rate limits should be or at least an upper bound because otherwise using normative language doesn't help much...? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1673 ----==_mimepart_5b75aa1a76cd9_45ee3fc0cf4be61c150612a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

There are to recommended/required rate limits in the transport draft:

"an endpoint MAY
limit the rate at which it sends PATH_RESPONSE frames"

and

"Until a peer's address is deemed valid, an endpoint MUST
limit the rate at which it sends data to this address."

Can we maybe provide more guidance what those rate limits should be or at least an upper bound because otherwise using normative language doesn't help much...?

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Same is true for re-tries:

"An endpoint SHOULD abandon path validation after sending some number
of PATH_CHALLENGE frames or after some time has passed."

"A receiver MAY send
MAX_STREAM_DATA frames in multiple packets..."

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----==_mimepart_5b75aa977b468_16f03f84a3ad45b410696c9-- From nobody Thu Aug 16 09:52:28 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A476C130DC9 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 09:52:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9gW-69aJubuX for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 09:52:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 026C31277BB for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 09:52:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 09:52:24 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534438344; bh=Xh74WZNa8XT1ZdsP7ChzCs44a73ephfPEHwA4rJ9f78=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=JMru9HlPmQI/NBys837/1sLyolgBgmytS8Ke3GOmJI7jbFoI099pNWThVsZRysazK CtAaE3eRZuJbUEZ3/VFWcSccCVZ4q/Hb5odTyZ6e9DNHMZtvm6fOtKCrQODUBlaP/v Ovq4n52hf8e3m9G+HyLHSGBMt44jyrHJdpr/aDjM= From: mirjak Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] PN of CLOSE (#1674) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b75abc821884_558b3fc6fd4d45b41814847"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mirjak X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 16:52:27 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b75abc821884_558b3fc6fd4d45b41814847 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The spec provides an exeption for packet with closing frames to be re-send with the same PN (and then all state could be removed and only the packet must be stored). However, the packet could be store and before send out again the PN could be increased by one. Yes this requires to re-do PNE but that only needs very limited addtional state. Is that really necessary? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1674 ----==_mimepart_5b75abc821884_558b3fc6fd4d45b41814847 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The spec provides an exeption for packet with closing frames to be re-send with the same PN (and then all state could be removed and only the packet must be stored). However, the packet could be store and before send out again the PN could be increased by one. Yes this requires to re-do PNE but that only needs very limited addtional state. Is that really necessary?

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----==_mimepart_5b75abc821884_558b3fc6fd4d45b41814847-- From nobody Thu Aug 16 09:58:03 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E75C1277BB for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 09:58:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id m9N4sfO2QHEb for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 09:58:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 834B7130DDA for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 09:58:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 09:57:59 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534438679; bh=peV2io61JAyCC0lpMCaFzuuRCMXn8dJ6O0/ic99OUbA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=sgOFUTjHgjdlcqsTEIkV0IjGH7beWeY0ERaFCVr+SA0slIR7tILLf9gGtrGfSrnFS 9zeFcPhw9omiV74nw/FByLS/yBd+IBZazd1YdxonD/7vCrM32gWvhEiHhtwbXsUWeP Vd1zLblRvyL/y5C7BOIedBQkvlPgsFD4yyuyZENk= From: mirjak Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Opening streams implicitly (#1675) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b75ad17aeb79_29b93f8d61abe61c1591fc"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mirjak X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 16:58:02 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b75ad17aeb79_29b93f8d61abe61c1591fc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The spec says: "Streams that are used out of order result in opening all lower-numbered streams of the same type in the same direction." Does this actually means that state is created for all these streams, e.g. in the state diagrams they are in "Ready" and "Recv" state? Because that kind of like the word "open" is used in that sections. Later on the spec says, however, "The receiving part of a stream initiated by a peer (types 1 and 3 for a client, or 0 and 2 for a server) are created when the first STREAM, STREAM_BLOCKED, RST_STREAM, or MAX_STREAM_DATA (bidirectional only, see below) is received for that stream." Which should instead maybe say instead "received for that stream or a stream with a higher stream ID of the same type". However, not sure if that was indented that way or if that is what people implement. In any case it should be clarified in the spec. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1675 ----==_mimepart_5b75ad17aeb79_29b93f8d61abe61c1591fc Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The spec says:
"Streams that are used out of order result
in opening all lower-numbered streams of the same type in the same
direction."
Does this actually means that state is created for all these streams, e.g. in the state diagrams they are in "Ready" and "Recv" state? Because that kind of like the word "open" is used in that sections.

Later on the spec says, however,
"The receiving part of a stream initiated by a peer (types 1 and 3 for
a client, or 0 and 2 for a server) are created when the first STREAM,
STREAM_BLOCKED, RST_STREAM, or MAX_STREAM_DATA (bidirectional only,
see below) is received for that stream."
Which should instead maybe say instead "received for that stream or a stream with a higher stream ID of the same type".

However, not sure if that was indented that way or if that is what people implement. In any case it should be clarified in the spec.

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You need the offset to account for flow control credits against global data limits. If the stream always ends at a given offset, RST or FIN, how is that ambigous?

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----==_mimepart_5b75b757a235d_17f13fae162d45c09081c8-- From nobody Thu Aug 16 10:44:01 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23799130E6A for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 10:44:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 40ejqVozYbuK for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 10:43:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A6B18130E5B for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 10:43:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 10:43:56 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534441436; bh=+RpR8vP0BrurJ+tuec6BJ5SYj+Tq85Ragtynml+ynUg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=YS1T2BSKL93b00Uckg2shZFqwOGm7jfqAVb8qbsBZDiab+Hzglmv3Swr66uKZa+L/ GzxpdgeH9KWl+9UB9E7lapsnN9+dAY6NY6OwwGGsPFrSVOiUf3/4/OtaQMBOAeqPeu vBO9YYJgueKfM9J3PEJfXniccK2Ns0Ih1fARNFpo= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] TLS dependencies and packet number encryption (#1669) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b75b7dcba882_6bfd3fa95a6d45b412649a7"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 17:44:00 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b75b7dcba882_6bfd3fa95a6d45b412649a7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The same argument could be made about transport parameters. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1669#issuecomment-413627992 ----==_mimepart_5b75b7dcba882_6bfd3fa95a6d45b412649a7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The same argument could be made about transport parameters.

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If you close when you run out of packet numbers.

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----==_mimepart_5b75b82c5e3bb_5ebe3fbf552d45c01202181-- From nobody Thu Aug 16 10:51:58 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CED94130EB0 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 10:51:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id C27KYnPyK6lv for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 10:51:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EFB34130E22 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 10:51:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 10:51:54 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534441914; bh=A+W/XD3/c4+XgEO52a8XsCp8mmZ1B2WBR3MTi/Cr060=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=R5Y1dj9osbH8cbqguUSokyT7jidCCFBfPz9ijQYfQN2msm8fQa28XSmkNXoEEF2zd ia7OWQ2FB8MglYu6lJbjv2ZdKWXIM5JD0svXAjEZrUnB9Rd5PwXhyFKgJpBXAR2aX0 /vu2NCIDV1Li1JGI+M7UhDVV50LRmAf27n65A+64= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Opening streams implicitly (#1675) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b75b9b9f3d65_1fa53f8d61abe61c54670"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 17:51:57 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b75b9b9f3d65_1fa53f8d61abe61c54670 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Not arguing about clarity of spec but No, it does not mean state is necessarily created - except for tracking the range of active states and tracking which of those have been closed. Active in praxis tracking the lowest stream not closed and and the largest stream opened - separate for each specific stream type. It does mean that it is valid to send on a peer initiated bidi stream without seeing any packets for that stream, if a later stream was indeed seen. The receiver of that transmission (i.e. the stream initiator) should then not error because a higher stream was already opened. It can therefore create the state lazily. On the other hand, receiving data ahead of the latest created stream is a protocol error. If that had been allowed, state could grow indefinitely. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1675#issuecomment-413630329 ----==_mimepart_5b75b9b9f3d65_1fa53f8d61abe61c54670 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Not arguing about clarity of spec but

No, it does not mean state is necessarily created - except for trackin= g the range of active states and tracking which of those have been closed= . Active in praxis tracking the lowest stream not closed and and the larg= est stream opened - separate for each specific stream type.

It does mean that it is valid to send on a peer initiated bidi stream = without seeing any packets for that stream, if a later stream was indeed = seen. The receiver of that transmission (i.e. the stream initiator) shoul= d then not error because a higher stream was already opened. It can there= fore create the state lazily. On the other hand, receiving data ahead of = the latest created stream is a protocol error. If that had been allowed, = state could grow indefinitely.

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Changing the PN requires re-encrypting the entire packet, which requires enough state to do that, which is likely larger than storing the payload of a connection close packet.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4450,7 +4498,8 @@ with the Stream ID set appropriately. A receiver could use the current offset of
 data consumed to determine the flow control offset to be advertised.  A receiver
 MAY send MAX_STREAM_DATA frames in multiple packets in order to make sure that
 the sender receives an update before running out of flow control credit, even if
-one of the packets is lost.
+one of the packets is lost. As soons as the packet with the MAX_STREAM_DATA
+frame is acknowlegded, there is no need to send the same max stream limit agian.

I think sending the current value in each packet is a reasonable strategy, albeit verbose if you have a lot of streams. It's certainly a good, even recommended, optimization to suppress that if it hasn't changed and one of them has been ACK'd. But I think the larger point is that it's okay to duplicate, and how much to duplicate is entirely under the implementation's control.

Also, "again."

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  a 1232 octet QUIC packet payload.  This includes overheads that reduce the space
 available to the cryptographic handshake protocol.
 
-The CRYPTO frame can be sent in different packet number spaces.  CRYPTO frames
+The CRYPTO frames can be sent in different packet number spaces.  CRYPTO frames

The original text, "The CRYPTO frame" talks about the CRYPTO frame as a unique type. "CRYPTO frames" talks about the class of frames of that type. Either would work here. "The CRYPTO frames" sounds like a discrete set of frames which are being partitioned into the spaces.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1578,20 +1599,26 @@ language from Section 3 of {{!TLS13=I-D.ietf-tls-tls13}}.
 
 The `extension_data` field of the quic_transport_parameters extension defined in
 {{QUIC-TLS}} contains a TransportParameters value.  TLS encoding rules are
-therefore used to encode the transport parameters.
+therefore used to encode the transport parameters. As show in
+{{figure-transport-parameters}} TransportParameters consists of either an

Also, "As shown"

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2560,11 +2594,16 @@ properly continue the connection.  An endpoint that wishes to communicate a
 fatal connection error MUST use a closing frame if it has sufficient state to do
 so.
 
-To support this process, a token is sent by endpoints.  The token is carried in
-the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame sent by either peer, and servers can specify the
-stateless_reset_token transport parameter during the handshake (clients cannot
-because their transport parameters don't have confidentiality protection).  This
-value is protected by encryption, so only client and server know this value.
+To support this process, a token is sent by the endpoints that can be recovered
+or regenerated by the endpoint based on the information available in each packet
+even if the connection state was lost. This provides a protect mechanism to
+identify Stateless Reset packets from an attacker.

That works.

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----==_mimepart_5b75bdf052a62_776b3fde4d6d45b425685-- From nobody Thu Aug 16 11:15:23 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBF0E130DC3 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 11:15:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7ptciRBYsuap for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 11:15:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 34861130E40 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 11:15:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 11:15:19 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534443319; bh=iLDdFEQTf6iiHd1uJ1m5eELVZR6VY4rgiMQQduC/cbc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=06RCfOBGEaedo1ZN74AnUllHp+U0Dk9h7EmSWhurJZjZHSlDIjbAdtSgU01zo9Pjd 0a0eGG7yLxtlnN03Qlmxm4dmZPrdB+H2apVEYqGW86NIQF3wqX7LcDv46CuCujPViP 2cgC27sN4f9Zs0iBzaesO7f5hW41EYQWgEUNVLxA= From: mirjak Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] ambiguity on reaction to RST_STREAM (#1671) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b75bf3731d89_43e63fdb42cd45bc987d3"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mirjak X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 18:15:22 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b75bf3731d89_43e63fdb42cd45bc987d3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you drop all data on receive of RST of that stream, you don't need to count any of that data for flow control. It's ambiguous because currently the receiver can decide to drop and not count it, or to keep it and count, so both ends may be out of sync, as explained on the "Edge Caeses and Other Considerations" section. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1671#issuecomment-413637404 ----==_mimepart_5b75bf3731d89_43e63fdb42cd45bc987d3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

If you drop all data on receive of RST of that stream, you don't need = to count any of that data for flow control.

It's ambiguous because currently the receiver can decide to drop and n= ot count it, or to keep it and count, so both ends may be out of sync, as= explained on the "Edge Caeses and Other Considerations" section.

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@mirjak points out that payload and content are both used to refer to the body of QUIC packets. Worth doing a pass to ensure that these are used consistently. My first pass at definitions:

  • "Payload" is the collection of frames in the encrypted body of the packet.
  • "Content" is the conceptual set of information conveyed by those frames, but probably not something we reference very often in the spec.

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OK, maybe I'm not up to speed on the spec then.

But as I see it, anything you send on a stream counts as send whether = you later decide to RST or FIN. You have used capacity on the wire. The f= act that you do not care about the data any more is just a sunk cost, jus= t as if you bought a concert ticket and got sick.

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Yes, I agree with this definition there might actually only a few case= s where its not correct but further I think it would be important to actu= ally define this somewhere explicitly.

Or to say your definition in other words
Payload is the thing in a PACKET that follows the header.
Content is any information or data carried in a FRAME.

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Actually, sorry you are right, you still need the final offset.

However, what this is ambiguous is if data gets delivered to the application or not.

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----==_mimepart_5b75c3d3681c4_622c3fe006ebe620611640-- From nobody Thu Aug 16 11:38:09 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 034EC130E40 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 11:38:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id g7srUa4AflSS for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 11:38:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3BD6D128CFD for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 11:38:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 11:38:05 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534444685; bh=+cCaPblPm6wzXEvQgXbSP1AkfuJtqnYbenobMkqjKLE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=II5/Y8TSoD8uYtj5tPdYBinjgCBvKLgia8yEx2GObIxoi5I5tFMXzPjacpY7nT7Kf lOeIlcYAzc6fPiNlUwZTGRk1Wo+UvBnnI0ZsJxz3Id675UCuxnvam2rtjRTWtX+AfC HLMvKPAYHLbKdNtzv5gnjupnNpdHRgJjqAPiJoCk= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Invarinats in TP (#1672) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b75c48d70994_43e63fdb42cd45bc5395ed"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 18:38:08 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b75c48d70994_43e63fdb42cd45bc5395ed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's not actually an invariant, because it's not true of all QUIC versions, nor is it (for servers, at least) visible outside the encryption envelope. It's really advice to the authors of future QUIC versions about how to avoid bugs when supporting both versions simultaneously. (There's similar text on how to design a multi-version Stateless Reset.) -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1672#issuecomment-413644290 ----==_mimepart_5b75c48d70994_43e63fdb42cd45bc5395ed Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

It's not actually an invariant, because it's not true of all QUIC vers= ions, nor is it (for servers, at least) visible outside the encryption en= velope. It's really advice to the authors of future QUIC versions about = how to avoid bugs when supporting both versions simultaneously. (There's= similar text on how to design a multi-version Stateless Reset.)

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Yes, delivery is ambigous but that is not necessarily a bad thing. Ord= ered delivery isn't even required so you could have deliver some post gap= data before seeing a RST - for some application that is a feature. This = behaviour is better specified at the application protocol level, but I th= ink a recommended default is in place. For deliver, the recommended behav= ior is to be in order, by default, I believe.

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They SHOULD send a Stateless Reset ({{stateless-reset}}) if a connection ID is present in the header. ## Version Negotiation Version negotiation ensures that client and server agree to a QUIC version -that is mutually supported. A server sends a Version Negotiation packet in -response to each packet that might initiate a new connection, see +that is mutually supported, independent of the implemented version. A server +can send a Version Negotiation packet in response to each packet that might +initiate a new connection and is sufficiently large; see Trailing whitespace here. > @@ -2015,7 +2047,7 @@ Thus, a resumption token SHOULD include an expiration time. The server MAY include either an explicit expiration time or an issued timestamp and dynamically calculate the expiration time. It is also unlikely that the client port number is the same on two different connections; validating the port is -therefore unlikely to be successful. +therefore unlikely to be successful. Trailing whitespace here. > protocol, including the conceptual design, wire format, and mechanisms of the QUIC protocol for connection establishment, stream multiplexing, stream and connection-level flow control, connection migration, and data reliability. -Accompanying documents describe QUIC's loss detection and congestion control -{{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, and the use of TLS 1.3 for key negotiation {{QUIC-TLS}}. - -QUIC version 1 conforms to the protocol invariants in {{QUIC-INVARIANTS}}. +An accompanying document describes QUIC's loss detection and congestion control +{{QUIC-RECOVERY}}. Each implementation of QUIC will unilaterally select a loss +detection and congestion control strategy. A recommended approach is described +in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}. This document specifies version 0x00000001 of QUIC which The first sentence is superfluous given the second and third. > @@ -182,8 +186,17 @@ QUIC packet: : A well-formed UDP payload that can be parsed by a QUIC receiver. -QUIC is a name, not an acronym. +0-RTT: + +: QUIC packets encrypted with a key derived from previous QUIC connection from **a** previous connection > packet does not complete the handshake. Even if the client receives a different connection ID in the Handshake packet, it MUST continue to use the same Destination Connection ID for 0-RTT packets, see {{connection-id-encoding}}. -The version field for protected packets is the current QUIC version. +The version field for protected packets contains the current QUIC version. Or explicitly make that statement about long-header packets. > The packet number field contains a packet number, which has additional confidentiality protection that is applied after packet protection is applied (see {{QUIC-TLS}} for details). The underlying packet number increases with each packet sent, see {{packet-numbers}} for details. -The payload is protected using authenticated encryption. {{QUIC-TLS}} describes -packet protection in detail. After decryption, the plaintext consists of a -sequence of frames, as described in {{frames}}. +The content of 0-RTT and 1-RTT packets is protected using authenticated I agree, we should converge. Filed #1676 to track. > @@ -1184,7 +1203,9 @@ endpoint cannot send a frame of a type that is unknown to its peer. An extension to QUIC that wishes to use a new type of frame MUST first ensure that a peer is able to understand the frame. An endpoint can use a transport parameter to signal its willingness to receive one or more extension frame types -with the one transport parameter. +with the one transport parameter. Otherwise it is assumed that enpoints have Then perhaps that's the statement that needs to be tightened. Given the known-schema format of QUIC frames, I'd argue that you never send a frame that isn't supported by default in the negotiated version or explicitly indicated by a transport parameter. It's hypothetically possible to use out-of-band knowledge, but that's a short path to things blowing up. > @@ -1303,34 +1326,35 @@ the packet. Servers SHOULD NOT attempt to decode or decrypt a packet from an unknown version, but instead send a Version Negotiation packet, provided that the packet is sufficiently long. -Servers MUST drop other packets that contain unsupported versions. +Servers MUST drop packets without sending a Version Negotiation packet when the +received packet indicates an unsupported versions and is too small version~s~ > receiving a server response, so servers SHOULD ignore any such packets. +Packets with a supported version, or no version field, are matched to +a connection as described in {{packet-handling}}. I still think this paragraph, plus the "If not matched..." sentence that was removed, belongs before line 1334. Once we know it's a supported version, checking whether the packet belongs to an existing connection comes before checking whether its an Initial. > -If the packet is a 0-RTT packet, the server MAY buffer a limited -number of these packets in anticipation of a late-arriving Initial -Packet. Clients are forbidden from sending Handshake packets prior to +If the packet is a 0-RTT packet with a supported version number, the server MAY Same comment from before still applies: If you've reached this point in the flow, it has a supported version. Unsupported versions, regardless of packet type, have already been rejected or dropped. > @@ -1719,11 +1747,11 @@ type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR. ### Values of Transport Parameters for 0-RTT {#zerortt-parameters} A client that attempts to send 0-RTT data MUST remember the transport parameters -used by the server. The transport parameters that the server advertises during -connection establishment apply to all connections that are resumed using the -keying material established during that handshake. Remembered transport -parameters apply to the new connection until the handshake completes and new -transport parameters from the server can be provided. +provided by the server in the preivous handshake. The transport parameters that "previous" > @@ -1757,27 +1784,28 @@ for transport parameters cannot be supported. ### New Transport Parameters -New transport parameters can be used to negotiate new protocol behavior. An -endpoint MUST ignore transport parameters that it does not support. Absence of -a transport parameter therefore disables any optional protocol feature that is -negotiated using the parameter. +New transport parameters can be used by the client to negotiate new protocol Given that we don't have any negotiated parameters right now and we've previously been reluctant to add them, I don't want to bake specifics into this draft. Maybe we settle for alluding to the possibility and let someone define the specifics if it's ever needed? "New transport parameters can be used to advertise support for optional features or negotiate changes to protocol behavior. An endpoint MUST ignore transport parameters that it does not support. Absence of a transport parameter indicates that a peer does not support the associated optional protocol feature." > New transport parameters can be registered according to the rules in {{iana-transport-parameters}}. ### Version Negotiation Validation {#version-validation} -Though the cryptographic handshake has integrity protection, two forms of QUIC -version downgrade are possible. In the first, an attacker replaces the QUIC -version in the Initial packet. In the second, a fake Version Negotiation packet -is sent by an attacker. To protect against these attacks, the transport -parameters include three fields that encode version information. These -parameters are used to retroactively authenticate the choice of version (see -{{version-negotiation}}). - -The cryptographic handshake provides integrity protection for the negotiated -version as part of the transport parameters (see {{transport-parameters}}). As +Theoretically, two forms of QUIC version downgrade are possible. In the first, Maybe "Downgrade attacks on QUIC can be attempted in two ways." > New transport parameters can be registered according to the rules in {{iana-transport-parameters}}. ### Version Negotiation Validation {#version-validation} -Though the cryptographic handshake has integrity protection, two forms of QUIC -version downgrade are possible. In the first, an attacker replaces the QUIC -version in the Initial packet. In the second, a fake Version Negotiation packet -is sent by an attacker. To protect against these attacks, the transport -parameters include three fields that encode version information. These -parameters are used to retroactively authenticate the choice of version (see -{{version-negotiation}}). - -The cryptographic handshake provides integrity protection for the negotiated -version as part of the transport parameters (see {{transport-parameters}}). As +Theoretically, two forms of QUIC version downgrade are possible. In the first, +an attacker replaces the QUIC version in the Initial packet. In the second, +a fake Version Negotiation packet is sent by an attacker. To protect against +these attacks, the cryptographic handshake provides integrity protection for +the negotiated version as part of the transport parameters. As described in I see. How about "To protect against these attacks, the cryptographic handshake reconfirms the negotiated version as part of the transport parameters, which are integrity protected. As described in...." > @@ -1985,14 +2014,16 @@ validation - but a server SHOULD limit the data it sends toward an unvalidated address. Successful completion of the cryptographic handshake implicitly provides proof that the client has received packets from the server. -The client should allow for additional Retry packets being sent in +The client SHOULD allow for additional Retry packets being sent in That's not the way I read it when it was part of the same paragraph. I read it as needing to tolerate at least three rounds of Initial-Retry-Initial-Retry-Initial-Retry-Initial.... Now that you've split it off, it could easily be read as a requirement for how many times each Initial gets retransmitted before the connection fails, and a note that a Retry resets your counter. Both things probably need to be said. > @@ -2290,20 +2323,20 @@ validation of the address of the spurious migration to be abandoned. ### Loss Detection and Congestion Control {#migration-cc} The capacity available on the new path might not be the same as the old path. -Packets sent on the old path SHOULD NOT contribute to congestion control or RTT -estimation for the new path. - -On confirming a peer's ownership of its new address, an endpoint SHOULD +On confirming a peer's ownership of its new address, an endpoint MUST Yeah, there's not a ton of wiggle room between choosing not to implement the SHOULD and still complying with the MUST NOT. I'm okay with the change, unless anyone else objects. > @@ -3415,7 +3454,11 @@ acknowledged again. Because ACK frames are not sent in response to ACK-only packets, a receiver that is only sending ACK frames will only receive acknowledgements for its packets if the sender includes them in packets with non-ACK frames. A sender SHOULD -bundle ACK frames with other frames when possible. +bundle ACK frames with other frames when possible. A receiver that would only +send ACK frames therefore can trigger an acknowledgement from the sender by +sending a packets that contains another frame that would elicit an a packet~s~ -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1665#pullrequestreview-146962858 ----==_mimepart_5b75ca7d80ff2_1b943fadfdcd45c050225f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  Servers MUST drop incoming packets under all other circumstances. They
 SHOULD send a Stateless Reset ({{stateless-reset}}) if a connection ID
 is present in the header.
 
 ## Version Negotiation
 
 Version negotiation ensures that client and server agree to a QUIC version
-that is mutually supported. A server sends a Version Negotiation packet in
-response to each packet that might initiate a new connection, see
+that is mutually supported, independent of the implemented version. A server
+can send a Version Negotiation packet in response to each packet that might
+initiate a new connection and is sufficiently large; see

Trailing whitespace here.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2015,7 +2047,7 @@ Thus, a resumption token SHOULD include an expiration time.  The server MAY
 include either an explicit expiration time or an issued timestamp and
 dynamically calculate the expiration time.  It is also unlikely that the client
 port number is the same on two different connections; validating the port is
-therefore unlikely to be successful.
+therefore unlikely to be successful.

Trailing whitespace here.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  protocol, including the conceptual design, wire format, and mechanisms of the
 QUIC protocol for connection establishment, stream multiplexing, stream and
 connection-level flow control, connection migration, and data reliability.
 
-Accompanying documents describe QUIC's loss detection and congestion control
-{{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, and the use of TLS 1.3 for key negotiation {{QUIC-TLS}}.
-
-QUIC version 1 conforms to the protocol invariants in {{QUIC-INVARIANTS}}.
+An accompanying document describes QUIC's loss detection and congestion control
+{{QUIC-RECOVERY}}. Each implementation of QUIC will unilaterally select a loss
+detection and congestion control strategy. A recommended approach is described
+in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}. This document specifies version 0x00000001 of QUIC which

The first sentence is superfluous given the second and third.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -182,8 +186,17 @@ QUIC packet:
 
 : A well-formed UDP payload that can be parsed by a QUIC receiver.
 
-QUIC is a name, not an acronym.
+0-RTT:
+
+: QUIC packets encrypted with a key derived from previous QUIC connection

from a previous connection

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  packet does not complete the handshake.  Even if the client receives a
 different connection ID in the Handshake packet, it MUST continue to
 use the same Destination Connection ID for 0-RTT packets, see
 {{connection-id-encoding}}.
 
-The version field for protected packets is the current QUIC version.
+The version field for protected packets contains the current QUIC version.

Or explicitly make that statement about long-header packets.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 The packet number field contains a packet number, which has additional
 confidentiality protection that is applied after packet protection is applied
 (see {{QUIC-TLS}} for details).  The underlying packet number increases with
 each packet sent, see {{packet-numbers}} for details.
 
-The payload is protected using authenticated encryption.  {{QUIC-TLS}} describes
-packet protection in detail.  After decryption, the plaintext consists of a
-sequence of frames, as described in {{frames}}.
+The content of 0-RTT and 1-RTT packets is protected using authenticated

I agree, we should converge. Filed #1676 to track.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1184,7 +1203,9 @@ endpoint cannot send a frame of a type that is unknown to its peer.
 An extension to QUIC that wishes to use a new type of frame MUST first ensure
 that a peer is able to understand the frame.  An endpoint can use a transport
 parameter to signal its willingness to receive one or more extension frame types
-with the one transport parameter.
+with the one transport parameter. Otherwise it is assumed that enpoints have

Then perhaps that's the statement that needs to be tightened. Given the known-schema format of QUIC frames, I'd argue that you never send a frame that isn't supported by default in the negotiated version or explicitly indicated by a transport parameter. It's hypothetically possible to use out-of-band knowledge, but that's a short path to things blowing up.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1303,34 +1326,35 @@ the packet.  Servers SHOULD NOT attempt to decode or decrypt a packet from an
 unknown version, but instead send a Version Negotiation packet, provided that
 the packet is sufficiently long.
 
-Servers MUST drop other packets that contain unsupported versions.
+Servers MUST drop packets without sending a Version Negotiation packet when the
+received packet indicates an unsupported versions and is too small

versions

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  receiving a server response, so servers SHOULD ignore any such packets.
 
+Packets with a supported version, or no version field, are matched to
+a connection as described in {{packet-handling}}.

I still think this paragraph, plus the "If not matched..." sentence that was removed, belongs before line 1334. Once we know it's a supported version, checking whether the packet belongs to an existing connection comes before checking whether its an Initial.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-If the packet is a 0-RTT packet, the server MAY buffer a limited
-number of these packets in anticipation of a late-arriving Initial
-Packet. Clients are forbidden from sending Handshake packets prior to
+If the packet is a 0-RTT packet with a supported version number, the server MAY

Same comment from before still applies: If you've reached this point in the flow, it has a supported version. Unsupported versions, regardless of packet type, have already been rejected or dropped.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1719,11 +1747,11 @@ type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR.
 ### Values of Transport Parameters for 0-RTT {#zerortt-parameters}
 
 A client that attempts to send 0-RTT data MUST remember the transport parameters
-used by the server.  The transport parameters that the server advertises during
-connection establishment apply to all connections that are resumed using the
-keying material established during that handshake.  Remembered transport
-parameters apply to the new connection until the handshake completes and new
-transport parameters from the server can be provided.
+provided by the server in the preivous handshake.  The transport parameters that

"previous"

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1757,27 +1784,28 @@ for transport parameters cannot be supported.
 
 ### New Transport Parameters
 
-New transport parameters can be used to negotiate new protocol behavior.  An
-endpoint MUST ignore transport parameters that it does not support.  Absence of
-a transport parameter therefore disables any optional protocol feature that is
-negotiated using the parameter.
+New transport parameters can be used by the client to negotiate new protocol

Given that we don't have any negotiated parameters right now and we've previously been reluctant to add them, I don't want to bake specifics into this draft. Maybe we settle for alluding to the possibility and let someone define the specifics if it's ever needed?

"New transport parameters can be used to advertise support for optional features or negotiate changes to protocol behavior. An endpoint MUST ignore transport parameters that it does not support. Absence of a transport parameter indicates that a peer does not support the associated optional protocol feature."

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 New transport parameters can be registered according to the rules in
 {{iana-transport-parameters}}.
 
 
 ### Version Negotiation Validation {#version-validation}
 
-Though the cryptographic handshake has integrity protection, two forms of QUIC
-version downgrade are possible.  In the first, an attacker replaces the QUIC
-version in the Initial packet.  In the second, a fake Version Negotiation packet
-is sent by an attacker.  To protect against these attacks, the transport
-parameters include three fields that encode version information.  These
-parameters are used to retroactively authenticate the choice of version (see
-{{version-negotiation}}).
-
-The cryptographic handshake provides integrity protection for the negotiated
-version as part of the transport parameters (see {{transport-parameters}}).  As
+Theoretically, two forms of QUIC version downgrade are possible.  In the first,

Maybe "Downgrade attacks on QUIC can be attempted in two ways."

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 New transport parameters can be registered according to the rules in
 {{iana-transport-parameters}}.
 
 
 ### Version Negotiation Validation {#version-validation}
 
-Though the cryptographic handshake has integrity protection, two forms of QUIC
-version downgrade are possible.  In the first, an attacker replaces the QUIC
-version in the Initial packet.  In the second, a fake Version Negotiation packet
-is sent by an attacker.  To protect against these attacks, the transport
-parameters include three fields that encode version information.  These
-parameters are used to retroactively authenticate the choice of version (see
-{{version-negotiation}}).
-
-The cryptographic handshake provides integrity protection for the negotiated
-version as part of the transport parameters (see {{transport-parameters}}).  As
+Theoretically, two forms of QUIC version downgrade are possible.  In the first,
+an attacker replaces the QUIC version in the Initial packet.  In the second,
+a fake Version Negotiation packet is sent by an attacker.  To protect against
+these attacks, the cryptographic handshake provides integrity protection for
+the negotiated version as part of the transport parameters. As described in

I see. How about "To protect against these attacks, the cryptographic handshake reconfirms the negotiated version as part of the transport parameters, which are integrity protected. As described in...."

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1985,14 +2014,16 @@ validation - but a server SHOULD limit the data it sends toward an unvalidated
 address.  Successful completion of the cryptographic handshake implicitly
 provides proof that the client has received packets from the server.
 
-The client should allow for additional Retry packets being sent in
+The client SHOULD allow for additional Retry packets being sent in

That's not the way I read it when it was part of the same paragraph. I read it as needing to tolerate at least three rounds of Initial-Retry-Initial-Retry-Initial-Retry-Initial.... Now that you've split it off, it could easily be read as a requirement for how many times each Initial gets retransmitted before the connection fails, and a note that a Retry resets your counter.

Both things probably need to be said.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2290,20 +2323,20 @@ validation of the address of the spurious migration to be abandoned.
 ### Loss Detection and Congestion Control {#migration-cc}
 
 The capacity available on the new path might not be the same as the old path.
-Packets sent on the old path SHOULD NOT contribute to congestion control or RTT
-estimation for the new path.
-
-On confirming a peer's ownership of its new address, an endpoint SHOULD
+On confirming a peer's ownership of its new address, an endpoint MUST

Yeah, there's not a ton of wiggle room between choosing not to implement the SHOULD and still complying with the MUST NOT. I'm okay with the change, unless anyone else objects.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3415,7 +3454,11 @@ acknowledged again.
 Because ACK frames are not sent in response to ACK-only packets, a receiver that
 is only sending ACK frames will only receive acknowledgements for its packets
 if the sender includes them in packets with non-ACK frames.  A sender SHOULD
-bundle ACK frames with other frames when possible.
+bundle ACK frames with other frames when possible. A receiver that would only
+send ACK frames therefore can trigger an acknowledgement from the sender by
+sending a packets that contains another frame that would elicit an

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@mikkelfj, transport parameters are in the transport doc. The TLS doc simply defines a TLS extens= ion capable of transporting the blob QUIC hands it. That bit is TLS-spec= ific.

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Yep. If the packet number weren't the IV to the payload encryption, you could keep the encrypted payload and just PNE a new packet number. However, because of how that's connected, changing the packet number requires you to start over from the plaintext of the payload.

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This is actually very like what we wrestled with in #1643.

Consider the extreme case and work backward:

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  • RST_STREAM is received after transport has received all data,= but application hasn't read it to completion. You can either s= urface all the data to the application (turns into previous case) or drop= the unread data and begin returning a read error.
  • RST_STREAM is received while data is outstanding. Y= ou can either surface the error when the application's reads hit a gap, o= r drop the unread data and begin returning a read error immediately.
    • =

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We added the version fallback error code to HTTP/2 because there were certain HTTP/1.1 scenarios which were difficult or impossible to support over the multiplexed transport for various reasons. (Resources which returned raw formatted headers, WebSockets, chunk extensions, client certificates, etc.)

Are there things which aren't supported in HTTP/QUIC which are supported in HTTP/2, such that the fallback should be to HTTP/2? Or should our fallback go straight to HTTP/1.1, since the things you can't do in HTTP/QUIC you probably also can't do in HTTP/2?

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----==_mimepart_5b75d05ffe41_17cb3fc618ed45b8247a4-- From nobody Thu Aug 16 13:25:23 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D09B130E08 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 13:25:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 99Kfc58MybPw for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 13:25:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A9BD3130E1F for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 13:25:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 13:25:17 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534451117; bh=iiyg7TDWG75Q4OfVN8/AN2K3KZcLfnpVS5IIz54BrHg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=IoNY2G1pGZwZ5dpelv8rctWu5V7aK2GLyIM7mpOdsBr5CiBrOa0KqzRYbdtxcHrsL Gn2ViEoS/Cd/g5EVSm6aBsrlCxzryEf3MbSpwxWlasRYxXqAC82fMg4vtUP60Lye2U DJFPL/5JppseBPA6eTQMM917n9AahUg8ndRHL9p4= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Greasing version negotiation (#1668) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b75ddad953e1_453d3f89070d45c47274d2"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 20:25:21 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b75ddad953e1_453d3f89070d45c47274d2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, actually *using* multiple versions is the best way, but this has value as well. I'd expect to see this in servers mostly, padding out VN packets with reserved versions. Clients that aren't latency sensitive might do an initial probe with a junk payload and a reserved version occasionally, but I don't expect browsers will very often. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1668#issuecomment-413673499 ----==_mimepart_5b75ddad953e1_453d3f89070d45c47274d2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yes, actually using multiple versions is the best way, but th= is has value as well. I'd expect to see this in servers mostly, padding = out VN packets with reserved versions. Clients that aren't latency sensi= tive might do an initial probe with a junk payload and a reserved version= occasionally, but I don't expect browsers will very often.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3407,9 +3407,11 @@ Implementations MUST NOT generate packets that only contain ACK frames in
 response to packets which only contain ACK frames. However, they MUST
 acknowledge packets containing only ACK frames when sending ACK frames in
 response to other packets.  Implementations MUST NOT send more than one packet
-containing only ACK frames per received packet that contains frames other than
-ACK frames.  Packets containing non-ACK frames MUST be acknowledged immediately
-or when a delayed ack timer expires.
+containing only an ACK frame per received packet that contains frames other than
+an ACK frame.  Packets containing non-ACK frames MUST be acknowledged
+immediately or when a delayed ack timer expires. The delayed ack timer should
+never delay an ACK for longer than an RTT, which ensures an ACK frame is sent

Or "does not," if you're making an assertion about the outcome of this strategy.

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At least the number of applications that are so tightly coupled with HTT= P/2 today as to be a concern is probably very limited. The fact that there = are (are could be) things that you could theoretically do in HTTP/2 but not= in QUIC does not necessarily mean that you should. That is, unless there i= s a smoking gun in form of an important real world use case.

Otherwise, I'd say that having to support both HTTP/2 and HTTP/QUIC is j= ust more complexity than it is worthwhile.

If it were like HTTP/2 had replaced the world, it would be different, bu= t HTTP/1.1 is likely to outlive both HTTP/2 and QUIC v1.

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Section 6.13.4 of draft-transport-14 defines the first byte of the stateless reset packet as:

   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
   |0|K|1|1|0|0|0|0|
   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

I notice that the first byte is slightly different from the specification of the short header in section 4.2:

   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
   |0|K|1|1|0|R R R|
   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

Is that deliberate, or just an oversight?

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----==_mimepart_5b75f30194c38_2de63faf67cd45b45161d4-- From nobody Thu Aug 16 17:01:38 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45D1C130DE9 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 17:01:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ixATunNGavau for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 17:01:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o9.sgmail.github.com (o9.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 22971126CC7 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 17:01:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=2K29ghbowIXBt1lr3TmmCdDT2Ms=; b=SIjXJQZGtM9rvG12 E/3nvwQYNfzv5GGgSiGpP1nz1HzpBq9dTcSfaefanW9Gx811wjYzhUol5Mg0a95q 4eUbmDUAquEg7RcaB5wluRRXevQ8toibmCE14qLCpeH+nT3c4g1GUaAwIDXGwVBy FTRorBDs9OnKMaZq8sMN0RLMAwo= Received: by filter1159p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter1159p1las1-9379-5B761048-11 2018-08-17 00:01:12.424709186 +0000 UTC m=+259223.454266690 Received: from github-lowworker17-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (unknown [192.30.252.44]) by ismtpd0002p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id aDXkQuH1QPG1xNEHxaTIkg for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2018 00:01:12.306 +0000 (UTC) Received: from github.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by github-lowworker17-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49B89C07D2 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 17:01:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 00:01:12 +0000 (UTC) From: martinduke Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Eliminate outdated reference to PATH_CHALLENGE (#1679) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b76104848556_7fd03fbb522be6283993c0"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinduke X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak2ZvTDZ9yf55gkjMtXHOhuW1hjiQ10Vi8K8e9 ZXSUQiL43j37Zf+mxFazv69z+4w52Gd+dd2l6Oa/QHIafEKI/EVPiiT19DZPGtdpbYL90Ac1yfLokn eKk3VYNoilMIjKY7FVzFi5Sk8FWZaMP6+23nAgCsEHUKD18AQKDTMCrbKcPInZffAt/2VYIPOBoy8P A= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 00:01:16 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b76104848556_7fd03fbb522be6283993c0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit No longer used in handshakes. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1679 -- Commit Summary -- * Eliminate outdated reference to PATH_CHALLENGE -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (3) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1679.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1679.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1679 ----==_mimepart_5b76104848556_7fd03fbb522be6283993c0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

No longer used in handshakes.

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  • Eliminate outdated reference to PATH_CHALLENGE

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Thanks @mirjak. @janaiyengar and I have some time set aside after = the next interim meeting to look at this issue. We've been waiting until= the velocity of changes slows a little before attempting this because mo= re changes tend to undo any work you do on improving structure and removi= ng redundant text. But it looks like things are stabilizing now.

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I don't think that we need to do anything about this, and I would be opposed to moving this to invariants for the reasons @MikeBishop outlines. I would consider a PR that improves the text.

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Closed #1669.

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----==_mimepart_5b761365c8dec_253d3ffa94abe61c490d2-- From nobody Thu Aug 16 17:14:38 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81867130F33 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 17:14:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id m2OLEvXjp4Ye for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 17:14:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B75AE130DE9 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 17:14:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 17:14:30 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534464870; bh=7jv5MlJsczcOddhMS5T5jmfYiynMaOQS9QPyaAiYRRc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=foeJ9NdjefSNZ/RnNQRJjv5w5E8GOj0I/uSAYCdxQOJ8xB4PQUGa0zZNUcTTBqUP+ N1tjFvcmFYzs13lh+W9p5NYNqlyNr7qQXIrcAdvpG5qwP6fwm1RbAeSQnTPaect7dS L3CNiWn13SBOWuM7qoO/pzZ0YolZZAWRH+U5GMgM= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] TLS dependencies and packet number encryption (#1669) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b7613661e501_7f523feab78be62410379e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 00:14:35 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b7613661e501_7f523feab78be62410379e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit One of the pieces of restructuring we have considered is moving the packet protection completely across. That's tracked by #411. We'll address that there. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1669#issuecomment-413720973 ----==_mimepart_5b7613661e501_7f523feab78be62410379e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

One of the pieces of restructuring we have considered is moving the packet protection completely across. That's tracked by #411. We'll address that there.

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----==_mimepart_5b7613661e501_7f523feab78be62410379e-- From nobody Thu Aug 16 17:17:11 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ED73130E89 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 17:17:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JraVI9Gtooag for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 17:17:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F1D19130DE9 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 17:17:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 17:17:07 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534465027; bh=YpcL2h/6vSjmn7dwvz6tNr9ohICV8QrwmoRC+jXtkeE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=kaxcSJQtQS471HgK3FKsxpvaEOnWxY9EEnRWa4//R5PlE8lAggfH70OsVQLkLjQxR IpaKtg7N6mZ45QhUrX0yjpJIU7MEKOuX9U3dQc4uA2OsXNnDHKpXtcKE2Qb9y4fdOj MdGQ4+0/OJsFB+Q/P542NY4HnYv8KpN/Yfm4DPmk= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] PN of CLOSE (#1674) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b761403531c4_77f93fb0a22be624622a8"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 00:17:09 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b761403531c4_77f93fb0a22be624622a8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The allowance [here](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#immediate-close) isn't harmful. And we don't say that endpoints can't regenerate the closing packet with new packet numbers. So what is the exact problem here? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1674#issuecomment-413721317 ----==_mimepart_5b761403531c4_77f93fb0a22be624622a8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The allowance here isn't harmful. And we don't say that endpoints can't regenerate the closing packet with new packet numbers.

So what is the exact problem here?

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----==_mimepart_5b761403531c4_77f93fb0a22be624622a8-- From nobody Thu Aug 16 17:20:30 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3802D130E89 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 17:20:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3Hn3cF6BUor2 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 17:20:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7E1621294D7 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 17:20:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 17:20:26 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534465226; bh=7osh1Z7wiXMZSKzLnlKHw2IfM17tMeFULfLCSBNz28A=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=WjiixGp0zuCgW4u+ClkX5qTRcbBTlNe6vtBK5hhAXVjESfpHT6U2q4RXYT6C7gWbv j/+4nvQksBk/5+F88R2rAi99ocabPOvf9ktYoMezd6CF9NBXIWE3sAk7igO16YEvHC dpYzEN3rehv3odrYkyJxdVVnbFMvwtnqdfT088HE= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] ambiguity on reaction to RST_STREAM (#1671) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b7614cab2d21_7e593ffd93ed45c411524"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 00:20:29 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b7614cab2d21_7e593ffd93ed45c411524 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The important point here is that there is no ambiguity about flow control. If you send data, it counts. If you claim to have sent data (by setting an offset in RST_STREAM), it counts. Yes, as a sender, you don't necessarily know what the recipient did (absent mechanisms like we have for QPACK), but that's OK: you send RST_STREAM, you give up any rights to knowing what happens to data on that stream because it's an explicit signal saying you don't care. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1671#issuecomment-413721820 ----==_mimepart_5b7614cab2d21_7e593ffd93ed45c411524 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The important point here is that there is no ambiguity about flow cont= rol. If you send data, it counts. If you claim to have sent data (by se= tting an offset in RST_STREAM), it counts.

Yes, as a sender, you don't necessarily know what the recipient did (a= bsent mechanisms like we have for QPACK), but that's OK: you send RST_STR= EAM, you give up any rights to knowing what happens to data on that strea= m because it's an explicit signal saying you don't care.

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Closed #1671.

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Straight to HTTP/1.1 seems like a reasonable balance here.

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----==_mimepart_5b76155222939_21993fee380d45c49438a-- From nobody Thu Aug 16 17:25:26 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48DA6130DE9 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 17:25:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gYawxb3X7Uim for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 17:25:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 99D591294D7 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 17:25:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 17:25:21 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534465521; bh=epIsiMWZAsfRDMxn3ODAZtpdAs7k4t2ao1z8CEoQWGc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=K1kNYpxJqRmiSXYGkSAENXRrlmoZJX7Jf4pWDwlXybNcu0eD2BE+7p6CVDN44zRBF XqLZIOKRJVOsLIH2uwfZxxMpT0AErTgzExcNQlkBcUJLyMXy660m/CGLW8vsg/UOZD p7YeAOJCQfRALY6EHCYVlPRn/4TZZnqj2K4R/ohI= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Does the first byte of stateless reset include random bits? (#1678) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b7615f1eca57_27f83ff7f40be62812696b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 00:25:24 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b7615f1eca57_27f83ff7f40be62812696b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It was deliberate, but only as a simplification. Once we know what those R values are, we can fix this too. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1678#issuecomment-413722505 ----==_mimepart_5b7615f1eca57_27f83ff7f40be62812696b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

It was deliberate, but only as a simplification. Once we know what those R values are, we can fix this too.

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(#1670) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b76183bce312_76593fabf90d45b411228c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 00:35:11 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b76183bce312_76593fabf90d45b411228c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > "Each connection ID MUST be used on only one local address." This is entirely correct. This is based on the expectation that a sender is aware of the source address that is assigned to packets they generate. I realize that certain hosts don't work this way (Windows XP is my last experience of this particular surprising behaviour; folks at Microsoft called it weak host), but the requirement is intentional. If an endpoint can't guarantee this, then it will be exposing itself to linkability in surprising ways. > "Packets that don't match an existing connection MAY be discarded." Yeah, that's a case of overzealous application of 2119. > "a client MUST ignore a Version Negotiation packet if it has already received and acted on a Version Negotiation packet." > Is that correct? An attcker should send an invalid VN packet first. Wouldn't it help to react to at least a few? Yes, but we can't defend against that attack, and don't claim that we do. What this prevents is an attacker bouncing you around. They get one shot. Kazuho has suggested that some implementations might choose to explore the entire state space of packets offered prior to the handshake. That is, forking the stack state in response to each packet received, and only keeping the fork that completes successfully. That view hasn't been very popular, probably because it's pretty complex, so I think that the MUST is appropriate. Anyone choosing to do the other thing isn't likely to be dissuaded by a MUST in a spec. You might argue that this is a SHOULD instead, or that normative language is inappropriate. I don't think that helps, because we would have to consider the alternatives more thoroughly. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1670#issuecomment-413723818 ----==_mimepart_5b76183bce312_76593fabf90d45b411228c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

"Each connection ID MUST be used on only one local address."

This is entirely correct. This is based on the expectation that a sen= der is aware of the source address that is assigned to packets they gener= ate. I realize that certain hosts don't work this way (Windows XP is my = last experience of this particular surprising behaviour; folks at Microso= ft called it weak host), but the requirement is intentional. If an endpo= int can't guarantee this, then it will be exposing itself to linkability = in surprising ways.

"Packets that don't match an existing connection MAY be discarded."

Yeah, that's a case of overzealous application of 2119.

"a client MUST ignore a Version Negotiation packet if it has already r= eceived and acted on a Version Negotiation packet."
Is that correct? An attcker should send an invalid VN packet first. Would= n't it help to react to at least a few?

Yes, but we can't defend against that attack, and don't claim that we = do. What this prevents is an attacker bouncing you around. They get one= shot.

Kazuho has suggested that some implementations might choose to explore= the entire state space of packets offered prior to the handshake. That = is, forking the stack state in response to each packet received, and only= keeping the fork that completes successfully. That view hasn't been ver= y popular, probably because it's pretty complex, so I think that the MUST= is appropriate. Anyone choosing to do the other thing isn't likely to b= e dissuaded by a MUST in a spec.

You might argue that this is a SHOULD instead, or that normative langu= age is inappropriate. I don't think that helps, because we would have to= consider the alternatives more thoroughly.

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Closes #1670.

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Which should instead maybe say instead "received for that stream or a = stream with a higher stream ID of the same type".

This is two separate statements:

A stream opens when X.
A stream opens when Y.

X =3D higher numbered stream opens
Y =3D certain frames are received

It should not be necessary to say that Y transitively implies X when t= he two statements are in adjacent paragraphs, that all describe different= ways in which a stream might be opened. Yes, there are four paragraphs,= but it turns out that the ways in which streams open is simple to unders= tand, but full of corner cases. We have much to thank non-determinism fo= r here.

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----==_mimepart_5b7619d262bad_150b3fabd9ad45c0149920-- From nobody Thu Aug 16 21:24:14 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4EB2130E2B for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 21:24:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MQv632cz_ysN for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 21:24:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DD7FF130E29 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 21:24:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 21:24:09 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534479849; bh=kFNHw5Wir4q1OerhyV7/6+euhXV1yNv7USLxM368Jug=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Yp9l2FUwCknPs+biZdPtM6VmT3V0UDpXeluZ69r1eyHN+SZtYTTVR6WDzXrJBSlqv cADjnVlnL9v/XcO9XPF7F43FO8gj2KAQjOGbsC69UX8i9iMavQavUwWDKi0KpbybD5 CmRbuw5XOUh+OsFg7KkjwWwghPgvOFtROmYEnvQs= From: Christian Huitema Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Small packets don't trigger a stateless reset (#1681) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b764de962271_3a223fbbfe8be6206159ef"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: huitema X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 04:24:13 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b764de962271_3a223fbbfe8be6206159ef Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Suppose that a server uses 4-bytes connection ID. The client wants to test whether the server is still present, and sends a "PING". The packet will include: * First octet: 1 byte * Dest CNX-ID: 4 bytes * PN: 1 byte (PNE encrypted) * Ping frame: 1 byte (encrypted) * AEAD checksum: 16 bytes. * Total: 23 bytes. The server does not recognize the connection ID -- memory of that connection is lost. It will compose a stateless reset packet that include, per draft 14: * First octet: 1 byte * At least 20 bytes with randomized or unpredictable value * 16 bytes Reset Secret. * Total: at least 37 bytes. But then the stateless reset becomes larger than the incoming packet, and draft-14 says that: _An endpoint SHOULD NOT send a stateless reset that is significantly larger than the packet it receives. Endpoints MUST discard packets that are too small to be valid QUIC packets. With the set of AEAD functions defined in [QUIC-TLS], packets less than 19 octets long are never valid._ I understand that "significantly larger" is a weasel word that can give some leeway. But then, too much leeway will allow attackers to seed a game of "reset ping pong" between two servers. On the other hand, the "ping" example above is exactly what we want to address with stateless reset. So what gives? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1681 ----==_mimepart_5b764de962271_3a223fbbfe8be6206159ef Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Suppose that a server uses 4-bytes connection ID. The client wants to test whether the server is still present, and sends a "PING". The packet will include:

  • First octet: 1 byte
  • Dest CNX-ID: 4 bytes
  • PN: 1 byte (PNE encrypted)
  • Ping frame: 1 byte (encrypted)
  • AEAD checksum: 16 bytes.
  • Total: 23 bytes.

The server does not recognize the connection ID -- memory of that connection is lost. It will compose a stateless reset packet that include, per draft 14:

  • First octet: 1 byte
  • At least 20 bytes with randomized or unpredictable value
  • 16 bytes Reset Secret.
  • Total: at least 37 bytes.

But then the stateless reset becomes larger than the incoming packet, and draft-14 says that: An endpoint SHOULD NOT send a stateless reset that is significantly larger than the packet it receives. Endpoints MUST discard packets that are too small to be valid QUIC packets. With the set of AEAD functions defined in [QUIC-TLS], packets less than 19 octets long are never valid.

I understand that "significantly larger" is a weasel word that can give some leeway. But then, too much leeway will allow attackers to seed a game of "reset ping pong" between two servers. On the other hand, the "ping" example above is exactly what we want to address with stateless reset. So what gives?

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Pad your pings. That's the best that I can recommend. The gap betwee= n the smallest valid packet and the smallest packet that will reliably ge= nerate a stateless reset is 18 octets (the maximum size connection ID len= gth). Adding at least that much padding is probably a good idea if you w= ant a timely response.

Stateless reset is an optimization, we agreed that when presented with= the choice between the optimization and the risk of playing an eternal g= ame of ping pong, the optimization loses.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b764f6c89a3_7ece3fabd22d45c0767694-- From nobody Thu Aug 16 21:39:02 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E56812F1A2 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 21:39:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1fQ3r3vDL3lc for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 21:38:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E1725128CF2 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 21:38:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 21:38:58 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534480738; bh=MLn3o0qrzbCKdP8oFOXLEXKxUOTJunkySWqMupgBR9s=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=YhJFsuuKIN6Z0zbwvTmMsunzwW4H6dMVy8/EllwaRaLEZHxSBnuwpJKAzoffxerFO xOW9PzZgMt+EZ+NvzmQGxwJa3ZZFXNImDG9ouW4J/FqVPIxB1+ely4CL+1eTH1kQNE BxeSmaozjlcsOyBQgovOWpntn1ZTqWHLbBxx+v4E= From: Christian Huitema Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Small packets don't trigger a stateless reset (#1681) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b76516237cd0_8da3fb3b12d45c0154749"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: huitema X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 04:39:00 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b76516237cd0_8da3fb3b12d45c0154749 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So basically you are saying that packets that are at least 38 bytes should not elicit a stateless reset, because the minimal valid reset size is 37 bytes. And that senders who want to test the continued presence of a peer should ensure that their packets are at least 38 bytes long, using padding if necessary. But that's not what the draft says. It says _"packets less than 19 octets long are never valid"_ .Which can be interpreted as _"packets at least 19 octets long may elicit a stateless reset, and yes 37 bytes is larger than 19, but not significantly larger"_. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1681#issuecomment-413755378 ----==_mimepart_5b76516237cd0_8da3fb3b12d45c0154749 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

So basically you are saying that packets that are at least 38 bytes sh= ould not elicit a stateless reset, because the minimal valid reset size i= s 37 bytes. And that senders who want to test the continued presence of a= peer should ensure that their packets are at least 38 bytes long, using = padding if necessary.

But that's not what the draft says. It says "packets less than 19 = octets long are never valid" .Which can be interpreted as "packe= ts at least 19 octets long may elicit a stateless reset, and yes 37 bytes= is larger than 19, but not significantly larger".

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= ----==_mimepart_5b76516237cd0_8da3fb3b12d45c0154749-- From nobody Thu Aug 16 21:43:39 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FB8D12F1A2 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 21:43:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sGPQwsZa864Z for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 21:43:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C28DC128CF2 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 21:43:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 21:43:35 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534481015; bh=Rln+bFAi8giRvUj888FRwEiLTsy2H8cORgs5rCg5gZg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=cWo07sVqu7PClKJdIC8xPx7I0MhFavq8PkR4A8fqIlup8V+92KVQYzvDnsojqFGZ6 UYVJoGHbyocPgF0I44igDKS0Qwm67M6ZavRnLgH03EDl4IC0w/JaU/x3xpjZbyALWS SqDU2NDSTMKhPb6TkeqG3fZYNVwOuIfkoaOQr9G0= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Small packets don't trigger a stateless reset (#1681) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b7652772a009_29743f88eb8be62013896eb"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 04:43:38 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b7652772a009_29743f88eb8be62013896eb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The draft allows for an endpoint to be stateful and produce a stateless reset for a smaller incoming packet. If an endpoint wants to remember how many stateless resets it has sent to peers, then it can avoid the ping pong match because it can cut it off. (Note: stateful from the event onwards, not implying that it needs to carry state across the event.) -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1681#issuecomment-413755932 ----==_mimepart_5b7652772a009_29743f88eb8be62013896eb Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The draft allows for an endpoint to be stateful and produce a stateles= s reset for a smaller incoming packet. If an endpoint wants to remember = how many stateless resets it has sent to peers, then it can avoid the pin= g pong match because it can cut it off. (Note: stateful from the event o= nwards, not implying that it needs to carry state across the event.)

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I ended up adding code to ensure that all packets are at least 38 byte= s long -- the padding option that you suggested. It is not ideal, but I c= an rationalize it. For example, it prevents packet size analysis of small= packets. It might make sense to describe this padding option somewhere, = maybe in section 6.13.4.3, Looping.

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I think that I might like 50% of these changes. There are lots of simple things, lots of good changes, lots of new text, but some of the changes are difficult. This is going to take a while to digest in its current form. It would be much easier if it were multiple PRs. I'm OK with large sets of changes if they are all trivial, but it's very hard to extricate easy changes (the final capitalization of SHOULD is simple and good), from more complex ones (adding new states and transitions). > @@ -1363,12 +1387,8 @@ selects an acceptable protocol version from the list provided by the server. The client then attempts to create a connection using that version. Though the contents of the Initial packet the client sends might not change in response to version negotiation, a client MUST increase the packet number it -uses on every packet it sends. Packets MUST continue to use long headers and -MUST include the new negotiated protocol version. - -The client MUST use the long header format and include its selected version on -all packets until it has 1-RTT keys and it has received a packet from the server -which is not a Version Negotiation packet. +uses on every packet it sends. The client MUST use the long header format and +include its selected version on all packets until it has 1-RTT keys. @MikeBishop, your example is a highly simplified view of 0-RTT :) > + | Create Bidirectional Stream (Sending) + | Recv MAX_STREAM_DATA + | Create Higher-Numbered Stream + v + +-------+ Send STOP_SENDING + .-| |-------------------------------. +Send | | Recv | | + MAX_STREAM_SIZE '>| | Recv RST_STREAM | + +-------+-----------------------. | + | | | + | Recv STREAM + FIN | | + v | v + +-------+ | +-------+ + | Size | | | Wait | + | Known + Recv RST_STREAM | | STOP | + +-------+---------------------->| +-------+ That sort of change has to be a separate PR. > @@ -4450,7 +4498,8 @@ with the Stream ID set appropriately. A receiver could use the current offset of data consumed to determine the flow control offset to be advertised. A receiver MAY send MAX_STREAM_DATA frames in multiple packets in order to make sure that the sender receives an update before running out of flow control credit, even if -one of the packets is lost. +one of the packets is lost. As soons as the packet with the MAX_STREAM_DATA +frame is acknowlegded, there is no need to send the same max stream limit agian. "soons" "acknowlegded" The new text is redundant though. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1665#pullrequestreview-147106864 ----==_mimepart_5b766884e6362_7c763f82ce2be61c30048 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@martinthomson commented on this pull request.

I think that I might like 50% of these changes. There are lots of simple things, lots of good changes, lots of new text, but some of the changes are difficult.

This is going to take a while to digest in its current form. It would be much easier if it were multiple PRs.

I'm OK with large sets of changes if they are all trivial, but it's very hard to extricate easy changes (the final capitalization of SHOULD is simple and good), from more complex ones (adding new states and transitions).

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1363,12 +1387,8 @@ selects an acceptable protocol version from the list provided by the server.
 The client then attempts to create a connection using that version.  Though the
 contents of the Initial packet the client sends might not change in
 response to version negotiation, a client MUST increase the packet number it
-uses on every packet it sends.  Packets MUST continue to use long headers and
-MUST include the new negotiated protocol version.
-
-The client MUST use the long header format and include its selected version on
-all packets until it has 1-RTT keys and it has received a packet from the server
-which is not a Version Negotiation packet.
+uses on every packet it sends. The client MUST use the long header format and
+include its selected version on all packets until it has 1-RTT keys.

@MikeBishop, your example is a highly simplified view of 0-RTT :)

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +                       | Create Bidirectional Stream (Sending)
+                       | Recv MAX_STREAM_DATA
+                       | Create Higher-Numbered Stream
+                       v
+                   +-------+ Send STOP_SENDING
+                 .-|       |-------------------------------.
+Send             | | Recv  |                               |
+ MAX_STREAM_SIZE '>|       | Recv RST_STREAM               |
+                   +-------+-----------------------.       |
+                       |                           |       |
+                       | Recv STREAM + FIN         |       |
+                       v                           |       v
+                   +-------+                       |   +-------+
+                   | Size  |                       |   | Wait  |
+                   | Known + Recv RST_STREAM       |   | STOP  |
+                   +-------+---------------------->|   +-------+

That sort of change has to be a separate PR.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4450,7 +4498,8 @@ with the Stream ID set appropriately. A receiver could use the current offset of
 data consumed to determine the flow control offset to be advertised.  A receiver
 MAY send MAX_STREAM_DATA frames in multiple packets in order to make sure that
 the sender receives an update before running out of flow control credit, even if
-one of the packets is lost.
+one of the packets is lost. As soons as the packet with the MAX_STREAM_DATA
+frame is acknowlegded, there is no need to send the same max stream limit agian.

"soons" "acknowlegded"

The new text is redundant though.

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit But there isn't much point in doing that if you aren't expecting a response, so ACK-only packets don't need the same treatment (unless, like @huitema, you are doing that for a measure of traffic analysis protection). 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But there isn't much point in doing that if you aren't expecting a response, so ACK-only packets don't need the same treatment (unless, like @huitema, you are doing that for a measure of traffic analysis protection).

Closes #1681.

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Actually, you can just as well pad the ACK-only packets. They could trigger a stateless reset just like any other packet.

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The point with ACK-only is that you aren't expecting a response, so there is no point in asking for one. Maybe it's best to say nothing on that point anyway. I was not 100% on that bit.

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----==_mimepart_5b7676acc3973_4e373fc6ad8be620379210-- From nobody Fri Aug 17 01:43:39 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB276130DFD for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2018 01:43:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.008 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.008 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rqob4YuHsl0r for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2018 01:43:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 84D47130DD3 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2018 01:43:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 01:43:35 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534495415; bh=4IrT0wv6TfWjeCyciGuyRpmhBPtUYvznXgIaK/qwItA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=BIW6M7vyRsbPdFCa6qFuOBEEnFktJEc+ZVlLwOhKc5J83e9iCXYnzUvk64d/tl2GC FI0jo3kKDwEXq37tzFzCb0g6HYriVT7g9O+MmZYHwpOexK918Qe6F7g6d8SIkSay3Y j8qO+/uE86BRs31KEU/OeU3cPYG6HWkM5OjTVW4Q= From: mirjak Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] PN of CLOSE (#1674) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b768ab72e2d7_32543ffdb0ad45c4326f3"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mirjak X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 08:43:38 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b768ab72e2d7_32543ffdb0ad45c4326f3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Closed #1674. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1674#event-1794167186 ----==_mimepart_5b768ab72e2d7_32543ffdb0ad45c4326f3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Closed #1674.

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----==_mimepart_5b768ab72e2d7_32543ffdb0ad45c4326f3-- From nobody Fri Aug 17 01:43:45 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E612130DD3 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2018 01:43:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Bl_vAQgwa1Kz for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2018 01:43:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9FE2D130DF9 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2018 01:43:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 01:43:35 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534495415; bh=hwDBxSjatbOyJY0UcNJrIZSi8S9lOd4/ccevSOa9Y6M=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=QT53yzOQ17WxJNiBsaWMkt6/eUtqJ129RggIcoHU/ddHUf9J36wYiDJpfHbMK+x6O xHC62CyCqSpFiTqWawmMW52dixwxKHlmQfuXaBWjsQ1ulygN6kQTnilEw0+VtkJ5eX G2IQfK+LKiS6AE0nct6h0wkY5wmxs6i/A+DEvuYc= From: mirjak Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] PN of CLOSE (#1674) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b768ab7209bb_2df93faca58be6242927c2"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mirjak X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 08:43:38 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b768ab7209bb_2df93faca58be6242927c2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I thought it's just not necessary but didn't realize that you have to re-encode the payload as well. So that's fine. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1674#issuecomment-413799270 ----==_mimepart_5b768ab7209bb_2df93faca58be6242927c2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I thought it's just not necessary but didn't realize that you have to re-encode the payload as well. So that's fine.

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----==_mimepart_5b768ab7209bb_2df93faca58be6242927c2-- From nobody Fri Aug 17 03:37:13 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37AC1130EBC for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2018 03:37:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ED377VUvwPeJ for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2018 03:37:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-13.smtp.github.com (out-13.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B4323130EB3 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2018 03:37:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 03:37:09 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534502229; bh=uP9h0tBNa40ZSxb2Rew65715mZ3J4+i3kuG3okerATw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=LIkkZGxosf+GpauW5bEQX/r6WfcQ1Ng+vYpQ9bAyVStLTVOALzfv3sM48xH79HS81 iZdo1KGa0o1MycxVaNhvF+vJ36UPMTJ6SvHanTnunV5i7NXeUK07dIsiQpq+59LWNw QkaYbADfSgaHtgL2TUWtQ2iPFEPKMrakKuOigI6M= From: mirjak Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Small packets don't trigger a stateless reset (#1681) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b76a5551edee_16e43fec2d8be620857a8"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mirjak X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 10:37:11 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b76a5551edee_16e43fec2d8be620857a8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Actually I don't really think that this is a problem for ping. You send a ping when you don't have any other data to send and want to test if the other end is still alive. Not getting anything back if the other end does not have state anymore is exactly what you want... -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1681#issuecomment-413826597 ----==_mimepart_5b76a5551edee_16e43fec2d8be620857a8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Actually I don't really think that this is a problem for ping. You send a ping when you don't have any other data to send and want to test if the other end is still alive. Not getting anything back if the other end does not have state anymore is exactly what you want...

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You'd want to know that as soon as possible, not after TLPing and RTOing the ping and then running into a timeout.

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This is why I have argued for a statistical reset instead of a purely size based solution. If you are below a certain size, you only send a reset with less than 50% probabiity or so. This is much simpler than padding etc. and does not prevent fast reset above the size limit.

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----==_mimepart_5b76a92fbcabc_1fc63fb6e36d45b435851b-- From nobody Fri Aug 17 10:49:32 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0739130EE3 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2018 10:49:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4DO6e_3kNBno for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2018 10:49:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CDB3E130DCA for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2018 10:49:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 10:49:27 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534528167; bh=SapHIugJw2y82/d2RqOIZOMuqAHiHUDItVzAD6YQ/cg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=qbsNXLMn8xW6NfSEWUq8NL4+7PsjHzMW0a2nJZjPI9YQjBgife8sreaI9tw2/AqnW hhGmawYmZDdc9DjIyx6Vesu0Gw1JwzY1B0Sg+bN/VKT6EuEFXM9CU3VpcNlKrslJF4 r4OhsxYnO+hJcQGo+KpAKO9oUtA8nFshD/J3v0O4= From: Christian Huitema Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Small packets don't trigger a stateless reset (#1681) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b770aa7c733_2c143fe1428be6202120b7"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: huitema X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 17:49:31 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b770aa7c733_2c143fe1428be6202120b7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @mikkelfj Statistical reset is generally fine, but it will only solve the "ping" scenario half the time. The other half, there will be a timeout. So it certainly makes sense to at least "pad the ping". Also, writing tests for statistical behavior is rather painful. Deterministic behavior is much easier to test and get right. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1681#issuecomment-413940784 ----==_mimepart_5b770aa7c733_2c143fe1428be6202120b7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@mikkelfj Statistical reset is ge= nerally fine, but it will only solve the "ping" scenario half the time. T= he other half, there will be a timeout. So it certainly makes sense to at= least "pad the ping".

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If you de facto demand that packets are larger than the smallest reset, you might as well flag the reset packet as being a reset in the first place, at least for small packets.

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@mikkelfj Good point. That's an in= herent draw back of the length based solution. Now we just need a solutio= n that's not length based, so it cannot be spied over, and also prevents = infinite ping pong.

One way would be some kind of rate control. "Don't send a reset to des= tination X if a previous reset was sent recently". But this kind of thing= s have their own issues. In the "server reboot" scenario, the restarting = server may expect to receive a bunch of packets from old connections.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b772ab181a5f_6e73fcdac6d45c0192934-- From nobody Fri Aug 17 13:11:48 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18624130FA2 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2018 13:11:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KLPCfZ4YvtyJ for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2018 13:11:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 42C4E130DC1 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2018 13:11:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 13:11:43 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534536703; bh=BSzelq/1KO+qrM05CjoB/mYCKL0Yov/a68W/ut8xnsc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=lZlLR/74Kzz5wdMiDOh/ij9bW7GRxSiRkEGzOLlhWnChf87mINTY3gqmEoawnuY/T Ixyjs4Zk1pMLUu38TNO3PpxmivozvffDD8/cHa8liO0H2BW8UU9yJdh3kvBh6JW4El 2TM3KORNIxKrekDqVQ00B/s6qTilehwNWSAkfAOk= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Small packets don't trigger a stateless reset (#1681) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b772bff5318e_36f13f7e744be6289880b5"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 20:11:46 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b772bff5318e_36f13f7e744be6289880b5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit But realistically, I think the statistical concern is overrated. If you need to reset due to small packets like PING, it is likely because a long running low volume connection is doing keep-alive, or because a fast runnig low volume connection is running like player positio in a game. In the first case it does not matter that disconnect takes a long time, just that it eventually happens. In the second case, the packet rate is high and statistics will catch up very soon. For other cases, it is likely that packet content is larger, such as a HTTP request. Even if there are other cases where a reset is needed faster, it is probably not that big of a problem, and if it is, padding can be used to override statistics. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1681#issuecomment-413975971 ----==_mimepart_5b772bff5318e_36f13f7e744be6289880b5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

But realistically, I think the statistical concern is overrated. If yo= u need to reset due to small packets like PING, it is likely because a lo= ng running low volume connection is doing keep-alive, or because a fast r= unnig low volume connection is running like player positio in a game.

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In the first case it does not matter that disconnect takes a long time= , just that it eventually happens. In the second case, the packet rate is= high and statistics will catch up very soon.

For other cases, it is likely that packet content is larger, such as a= HTTP request.

Even if there are other cases where a reset is needed faster, it is pr= obably not that big of a problem, and if it is, padding can be used to ov= erride statistics.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b772bff5318e_36f13f7e744be6289880b5-- From nobody Fri Aug 17 13:21:08 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92879130FA2 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2018 13:21:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CMo5JN7eLDmy for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2018 13:21:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2E92A130DC1 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2018 13:21:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 13:21:04 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534537264; bh=tsRr/gEe8KhhGRn7ZxyqxKidhJtZAWhT0y9VBGyL7ps=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=KYvIz2IcXJVcL6XsaLV1yCK81nw6WCyXQT/QKwxgDdEW4Ajz06sjxjScYCyUUBZqp OAnO3MYF21888TS0SNKY+EpR5o8wyJeloHreuxUbu5AN9Wt6RbzqziUEJUEIv5ESy0 lOu/OSnsG5enSMJ9zU5zdYy0bJN0jMoet3Yh8S5Q= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Small packets don't trigger a stateless reset (#1681) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b772e3056d68_25ed3fe2a22d45b4250069"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 20:21:06 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b772e3056d68_25ed3fe2a22d45b4250069 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Not related to this issue, I am also concerned about the sending a slightly smaller packet when possible. I'd like to see some numbers or a simultation because I think this can be a signfiicant amplification attack. This could be mitigated by reducing the packet size by a factor 2 at least 50% of the cases. If the packet size is just reduced by a single byte, the amplification could be a factor 1000. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1681#issuecomment-413978074 ----==_mimepart_5b772e3056d68_25ed3fe2a22d45b4250069 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Not related to this issue, I am also concerned about the sending a sli= ghtly smaller packet when possible. I'd like to see some numbers or a sim= ultation because I think this can be a signfiicant amplification attack. = This could be mitigated by reducing the packet size by a factor 2 at leas= t 50% of the cases. If the packet size is just reduced by a single byte, = the amplification could be a factor 1000.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b772e3056d68_25ed3fe2a22d45b4250069-- From nobody Fri Aug 17 13:26:49 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71020130DC3 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2018 13:26:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yMLxrXt2AFFK for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2018 13:26:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-14.smtp.github.com (out-14.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0CA52130DC1 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2018 13:26:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 13:26:45 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534537605; bh=zHNPtvU9SvEJx0SxwxHgZC0wlWj7v8Y7mmVEaGndpgo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=zQk5bkYdznhhCnIV42Mdb7oxfawkxggBIIQ8saBVtRS9lmoLPtfDKnmWX9fjiCmr6 N8ICqOBFWXXZ2n45s1k6XuZNOkU8BrDArav/m6vZ+VeS3b1RKVslIWYdaNmFYU/18d ovKwwKP+CnVXF4aw9iYT7jitjbxo/Zx6RguRdKxg= From: Christian Huitema Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Small packets don't trigger a stateless reset (#1681) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b772f858bfc8_3ccb3fa4e44d45b85008e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: huitema X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 20:26:47 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b772f858bfc8_3ccb3fa4e44d45b85008e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I understand that statistical solution can work in practice. Not so good with sparse traffic, but well enough with long running connections that send a bunch of packets. But statistical solutions are a pain to test. Your tests end up like "try N times and verify that it works" -- but then still fail once every 2**N trial. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1681#issuecomment-413979329 ----==_mimepart_5b772f858bfc8_3ccb3fa4e44d45b85008e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I understand that statistical solution can work in practice. Not so go= od with sparse traffic, but well enough with long running connections tha= t send a bunch of packets. But statistical solutions are a pain to test. = Your tests end up like "try N times and verify that it works" -- but then= still fail once every 2**N trial.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b772f858bfc8_3ccb3fa4e44d45b85008e-- From nobody Fri Aug 17 16:03:47 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D485012785F for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2018 16:03:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HjX1KfiRebwl for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2018 16:03:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0D028130F84 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2018 16:03:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 16:03:42 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534547022; bh=0Neie5pDQjaQXdeXMDh7TnFWQWsdGe8cjc5BNh0VP0I=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=H719c+NlPEbw8QZevz4IqINgyifw7PXVXDyJPDmLl1jZWChhc3SuT2z/NsS8RHNbw JqHYwlmkpr0IVo2/1wHONlg4UNor/UHEop168gju4CdnxBPHBrfDUxFwgZcTptT6vf Ygtzfd/tMzOdO7rX4R02OfI4uqH8OHkfDS3lUvOs= From: Ryan Hamilton Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Target of HTTP version fallback (#1677) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b77544ecf696_14023fd305cd45c0361541"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: RyanAtGoogle X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 23:03:46 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b77544ecf696_14023fd305cd45c0361541 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What fallback are we referring to here? With HTTP over QUIC it is Alt-Svc which is used to discover QUIC servers. If QUIC is not working for that server, I would expect a User-Agent to mark that alternative as broken and fall back to using the origin directly. I would expect the User-Agent to use the "normal" logic for connecting to that origin. In that case of HTTPS, that would involve ALPN negotiation of HTTP/2 or HTTP/1.1. Do we need any more logic beyond this? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1677#issuecomment-414008618 ----==_mimepart_5b77544ecf696_14023fd305cd45c0361541 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

What fallback are we referring to here? With HTTP over QUIC it is Alt-= Svc which is used to discover QUIC servers. If QUIC is not working for th= at server, I would expect a User-Agent to mark that alternative as broken= and fall back to using the origin directly. I would expect the User-Agen= t to use the "normal" logic for connecting to that origin. In that case o= f HTTPS, that would involve ALPN negotiation of HTTP/2 or HTTP/1.1.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b77544ecf696_14023fd305cd45c0361541-- From nobody Fri Aug 17 16:14:15 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCA19130FB5 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2018 16:14:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id meiGtYCAT8ot for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2018 16:14:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 279F1130E02 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2018 16:14:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 16:14:11 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534547651; bh=ajwWsUnh9rc/4RH8g8JwrH9N6BnbjhfGbYOHYphv8eE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ewzkkSaDCMtssMn+/REaePbLrInw0PBt6jBMkBSieEeoHbyLTc0TwRvChMBHK/RHY l/B9uqWIfWFITGk5mIerNaTkVTXERNufoyHLpbgn3ht/0kLKLf1BPdS5t/Y/slIKaP w+uIYZoNTHwIfjsK5sflNmH3P6Y3Jx7W0XY6juS8= From: afrind Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] QPACK does not specify how to handle invalid input on control streams (#1683) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b7756c326e46_1d433ff68babe62411648e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: afrind X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 23:14:14 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b7756c326e46_1d433ff68babe62411648e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >From Bence via the mailing list:=0D =0D It is possible for a peer to receive invalid data on the encoder or=C2=A0= decoder stream. For example, on the encoder stream, a Duplicate instruct= ion might address an already evicted entry. Or on the decoder stream, a = Table State Synchronize might contain an Insert Count exceeding the total= number of applicable inserts and duplications, or the Header Acknowledge= ment might contain a Stream ID for which there are no unacknowledged head= er blocks. As far as I can tell, the spec currently gives no direction o= n what should happen in such cases.=0D =0D I propose that these should be treated as connection errors.=0D =0D HTTP_QPACK_DECOMPRESSION_FAILED seems like a relevant error code, but it = does not really match any of these cases (strictly speaking, these errors= do not happen during decompression), especially incorrect data on the de= coder stream (because it is the encoder, not the decoder,=0D that detects the error). Should there be one error code covering all the= se cases, something like HTTP_QPACK_ERROR? Or should there be multiple, = like HTTP_QPACK_DECOMPRESSION_FAILED for errors on HEADERS and PUSH_PROMI= SE frames, and self-explanatory HTTP_QPACK_ENCODER_STREAM_ERROR and HTTP_= QPACK_DECODER_STREAM_ERROR?=0D -- = You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1683= ----==_mimepart_5b7756c326e46_1d433ff68babe62411648e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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It is possible for a peer to receive invalid data on the encoder or=C2= =A0decoder stream. For example, on the encoder stream, a Duplicate instr= uction might address an already evicted entry. Or on the decoder stream,= a Table State Synchronize might contain an Insert Count exceeding the to= tal number of applicable inserts and duplications, or the Header Acknowle= dgement might contain a Stream ID for which there are no unacknowledged h= eader blocks. As far as I can tell, the spec currently gives no directio= n on what should happen in such cases.

I propose that these should be treated as connection errors.

HTTP_QPACK_DECOMPRESSION_FAILED seems like a relevant error code, but = it does not really match any of these cases (strictly speaking, these err= ors do not happen during decompression), especially incorrect data on the= decoder stream (because it is the encoder, not the decoder,
that detects the error). Should there be one error code covering all the= se cases, something like HTTP_QPACK_ERROR? Or should there be multiple, = like HTTP_QPACK_DECOMPRESSION_FAILED for errors on HEADERS and PUSH_PROMI= SE frames, and self-explanatory HTTP_QPACK_ENCODER_STREAM_ERROR and HTTP_= QPACK_DECODER_STREAM_ERROR?

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From Bence via the mailing list:

HPACK Section 1.3 defines a "Header List" as "an ordered collection of header fields...". QPACK uses the term "Header Set" instead and does not require it to be ordered. HPACK has a whole section, 2.1, on ordering, whereas QPACK does not spell out this guarantee. However, since frames on a given stream are guaranteed to be ordered by the underlying transport, my impression is that QPACK as specified already guarantees to preserve order of header fields within a header list. (Also in my experience things can break in colorful ways if you start reordering headers in your application.)

I propose to add language on the requirement to preserve order, and to use the expression "header list" instead of "header set" throughout. The clause "header list ... can contain duplicate header fields" should probably also be included.

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----==_mimepart_5b7757ac4b1a0_29e43fb03a8be6187533a-- From nobody Fri Aug 17 16:38:10 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9FC6130E08 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2018 16:38:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BYVqnDDaQKwo for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2018 16:38:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F3AFE130DF6 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2018 16:38:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 16:38:03 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534549083; bh=JJsSvbbABADcwUY7nxWjCKrgIPwvkiRdOfoUAW/7P70=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=nF05dB5kCZAWUSeNn6Jvt0we9JSXxUnDzz5teJtGSM+DDDQndpCTEM4TYa1HOgvIl 1ypq5KNcLQAafGlIPCunRngGFkohbjjvHkPUeouydI822uVkRHuqmkOf9wkRvpPC9m /rBSEZq53QhH4+1Pq+wIrL7FJ21srBk1j19MLp/o= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Target of HTTP version fallback (#1677) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b775c5bb5cb0_68943fcc69cbe628198097"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 23:38:08 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b775c5bb5cb0_68943fcc69cbe628198097 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For HTTP/2, we used it when the resource did something that couldn=E2=80=99= t be expressed in HTTP/2, either because of the protocol or because of ou= r implementation:=0D =0D * Client certificates couldn=E2=80=99t be used because HTTP/2 prohibi= ts renegotiation (Secondary Certificates will fix that, eventually)=0D * Multi-leg auth protocols can=E2=80=99t be used because HTTP/2 doesn= =E2=80=99t maintain links between multiple attempts on a request (there w= as a draft on how to fix that, but it was never adopted)=0D * Our implementation permitted resources to return raw-formatted head= ers, which obviously doesn=E2=80=99t play nicely with HPACK. Thankfully,= that was rarely exercised.=0D =0D It=E2=80=99s not a failure to connect, but an indication that the request= you made can=E2=80=99t be answered over HTTP/2 for some reason. Most of= those reasons apply equally to HTTP/QUIC.=0D =0D From: Ryan Hamilton =0D Sent: Friday, August 17, 2018 4:04 PM=0D To: quicwg/base-drafts =0D Cc: Mike Bishop ; Author =0D Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Target of HTTP version fallback (#1677)= =0D =0D =0D What fallback are we referring to here? With HTTP over QUIC it is Alt-Svc= which is used to discover QUIC servers. If QUIC is not working for that = server, I would expect a User-Agent to mark that alternative as broken an= d fall back to using the origin directly. I would expect the User-Agent t= o use the "normal" logic for connecting to that origin. In that case of H= TTPS, that would involve ALPN negotiation of HTTP/2 or HTTP/1.1.=0D =0D Do we need any more logic beyond this?=0D =0D =E2=80=94=0D You are receiving this because you authored the thread.=0D Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub, or mute the thread.=0D -- = You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1677#issuecomment-414013065= ----==_mimepart_5b775c5bb5cb0_68943fcc69cbe628198097 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For HTTP/2, we used it when the resource did something that couldn=E2=80=99= t be expressed in HTTP/2, either because of the protocol or because of ou= r implementation:=0D
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Is this intended to stand on its own or only as part of the stack with #1644. @martinthomson had a comment on that issue about what it means to be not-specified. This field is required so how can it be not specified?

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----==_mimepart_5b776c78a8348_7b483fb3fb4d45c469244-- From nobody Sat Aug 18 03:31:49 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD263130E33 for ; Sat, 18 Aug 2018 03:31:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.997 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.997 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lY1itykpM9jq for ; Sat, 18 Aug 2018 03:31:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from m71-131.mailgun.net (m71-131.mailgun.net [166.78.71.131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7D1561292AD for ; Sat, 18 Aug 2018 03:31:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; v=1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; q=dns/txt; s=mailo; t=1534588305; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type: Mime-Version: Subject: Message-ID: To: Reply-To: From: Date: Sender; bh=J0fAe7ltroM+5rSOPIJfcmae1INXE2wcludEcVvY0v0=; b=BtMuv8tkAqy6puQX86JvBWsFU+APUgmnFTKRGS0pgvYaubp6meM/y5hzuC3LvHZsviiHtk7i Z1SDUkH4Pkw85GvWMe2rgu7+BUd2PGwmFtcm80O0+O13KA4UTecTsLoFgEVUJxQytsI5Mv2Z bTzbebLbyzOIS8pGVQfVEsNXiqM= X-Mailgun-Sending-Ip: 166.78.71.131 X-Mailgun-Sid: WyJhNzYyYiIsICJxdWljLWlzc3Vlc0BpZXRmLm9yZyIsICI0MGYiXQ== Sender: martin.thomson=gmail.com@github.com Received: from github.com (Unknown [192.30.252.34]) by mxa.mailgun.org with ESMTP id 5b77f590.7fb6e67eb390-smtp-out-n02; Sat, 18 Aug 2018 10:31:44 -0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2018 03:31:43 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: <5b77f58fab0b9_1da82ad21e368ed4505ab@hookshot-fe-7191cb1.cp1-iad.github.net.mail> Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] a61e62: Packets that don't match ARE discarded Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b77f58faad18_1da82ad21e368ed4504ab"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2018 10:31:48 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b77f58faad18_1da82ad21e368ed4504ab Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: a61e62fd566a833e92ce995053f6883809a99be1 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a61e62fd566a833e92ce995053f6883809a99be1 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-08-17 (Fri, 17 Aug 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Packets that don't match ARE discarded Closes #1670. 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After discussing #1644 at length, I am no longer convinced that starting the dynamic table at 0 is better that 1. I now think it makes no difference. Closing.

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such failures might only be detected by other means, such as timers. +An endpoint that wants to improve the chances that it triggers a Stateless Reset +when its peer loses state can pad all packets it sends to 38 octets. 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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2733,6 +2733,9 @@ a small packet might result in Stateless Reset not being useful in detecting
 cases of broken connections where only very small packets are sent; such
 failures might only be detected by other means, such as timers.
 
+An endpoint that wants to improve the chances that it triggers a Stateless Reset
+when its peer loses state can pad all packets it sends to 38 octets.

All packets seems like a lot of padding. In practice, I'd only expect people to pad timer-initiated packets like PING for keepalive or TLP/RTO packets.

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Fixes #1677.

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Fixes #1506.

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Most uses were already using "/", so this makes it more uniform outside of document titles where there's probably value in spelling it out. 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Most uses were already using "/", so this makes it more uniform outside of document titles where there's probably value in spelling it out.

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@MikeBishop approved this pull request.

Maybe instead of talking about the all-time case, we just say that "An endpoint can increase the odds that a packet will trigger a Stateless Reset if it cannot be processed by padding it to at least 38 octets."? Then we leave the decision of which packets deserve that treatment to the implementation.

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----==_mimepart_5b7affb6a5a0f_6ce03fa6598d45c0133567-- From nobody Mon Aug 20 14:05:53 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A13C129619 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 14:05:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jV8CDwgTQtPL for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 14:05:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 44155128CF3 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2018 14:05:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2018 14:05:49 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534799149; bh=aYBaL5tzvEgrdyxx3TCcQwIC7XQ1Io2Ip+3OTbTKoaw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=xwe5yMEWfl5aYlLAYyaTEFN8k6iqYUUAJec8RdP2lGhxzzqd3JFc0FffheEgwg4pI s6ALIEmRGDwbGhfOVSJORV5NwbyJORAKSaPms7LtA87cbNFtaSRF1gUQEoA+HkRenE crlcg/TlDBz8hZEHRJyzlQPN8aJg3hsypyJALnS0= From: Demi Marie Obenour Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Ensure the use of full-length (128-bit) tags for all AEAD algorithms (#1688) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b7b2d2d22f8f_47033fafa98be6182629a4"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: DemiMarie X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2018 21:05:52 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b7b2d2d22f8f_47033fafa98be6182629a4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit AES-GCM is vulnerable if short tags are used, and ChaCha20-Poly1305 is expected to be even more vulnerable. This should be fixed by using full-length tags. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1688 ----==_mimepart_5b7b2d2d22f8f_47033fafa98be6182629a4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

AES-GCM is vulnerable if short tags are used, and ChaCha20-Poly1305 is expected to be even more vulnerable. This should be fixed by using full-length tags.

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Closed #1688.

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Nevermind, this has already been fixed.

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've taken a pass over this, pruning out some unsupported/non-standard values and adding in some newer standards that are likely to see HTTP/QUIC use (DoH, Early-Data). I'm not totally sold on making it primarily client-based, so it's still at 100+ entries. Along the way, I sorted the headers in three tranches: - 0-14 for 1-byte Name References: This is the hand-selected list from earlier that we expect to be common name references and get one-byte encoding in that instruction. - 15-62 for 1-byte Indexing: These are the remaining frequently-occurring headers, based either on data or our stated priorities. It includes the standard methods, the most common success status codes, and other common headers. - 63-108 for 2+ bytes: Headers common enough to get through the filter, but not meeting the criteria for the previous tranches. Includes other status codes, CORS headers, etc. I also dropped extremely short header names with empty values from this region, because they'll only save 1-2 octets per connection before being placed in the dynamic table. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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I've taken a pass over this, pruning out some unsupported/non-standard= values and adding in some newer standards that are likely to see HTTP/QU= IC use (DoH, Early-Data). I'm not totally sold on making it primarily cl= ient-based, so it's still at 100+ entries.

Along the way, I sorted the headers in three tranches:

  • 0-14 for 1-byte Name References: This is the hand-selected list from= earlier that we expect to be common name references and get one-byte enc= oding in that instruction.
  • 15-62 for 1-byte Indexing: These are the remaining frequently-occurr= ing headers, based either on data or our stated priorities. It includes = the standard methods, the most common success status codes, and other com= mon headers.
  • 63-108 for 2+ bytes: Headers common enough to get through the filter= , but not meeting the criteria for the previous tranches. Includes other= status codes, CORS headers, etc. I also dropped extremely short header = names with empty values from this region, because they'll only save 1-2 o= ctets per connection before being placed in the dynamic table.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> +| 22    | :scheme                          | http                                                  |
+| 23    | :scheme                          | https                                                 |
+| 24    | :status                          | 200                                                   |
+| 25    | :status                          | 304                                                   |
+| 26    | accept                           | */*                                                   |
+| 27    | accept                           | application/dns-message                               |
+| 28    | accept-encoding                  | gzip, deflate, br                                     |
+| 29    | accept-language                  |                                                       |
+| 30    | authorization                    |                                                       |
+| 31    | cache-control                    | max-age=0                                             |
+| 32    | cache-control                    | max-age=604800                                        |
+| 33    | cache-control                    | max-age=2592000                                       |
+| 34    | cache-control                    | no-cache                                              |
+| 35    | cache-control                    | no-cache, no-store, must-revalidate                   |
+| 36    | cache-control                    | public, max-age=31536000                              |
+| 37    | content-disposition              |                                                       |

You have two identical values -- at 3 and 37.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2733,6 +2733,9 @@ a small packet might result in Stateless Reset not being useful in detecting
 cases of broken connections where only very small packets are sent; such
 failures might only be detected by other means, such as timers.
 
+An endpoint that wants to improve the chances that it triggers a Stateless Reset
+when its peer loses state can pad all packets it sends to 38 octets.

Yes. Mikkel pointed out that if you do that, all short packets are 38 bytes, except for stateless reset which are exactly 37, and therefore stand out. That's not a hugely useful property. What Ian suggests makes more sense, and in that case you want to pad to something unpredictable, for example between 38 and 256. But this is of course a game of smoke and mirrors, so you want the peer to also randomly pad the responses to ping and tlp/rto. Oh well...

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Since it's been a while I lost sight of the PR that Mike describes in = above comment: it is #1355.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2733,8 +2733,8 @@ a small packet might result in Stateless Reset not being useful in detecting
 cases of broken connections where only very small packets are sent; such
 failures might only be detected by other means, such as timers.
 
-An endpoint that wants to improve the chances that it triggers a Stateless Reset
-when its peer loses state can pad all packets it sends to 38 octets.
+An endpoint can increase the odds that a packet will trigger a Stateless Reset

Does increasing it above 38 not ensure it will trigger a Stateless Reset? If so, I'd prefer "An endpoint can ensure that a packet will trigger..."

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2733,8 +2733,8 @@ a small packet might result in Stateless Reset not being useful in detecting
 cases of broken connections where only very small packets are sent; such
 failures might only be detected by other means, such as timers.
 
-An endpoint that wants to improve the chances that it triggers a Stateless Reset
-when its peer loses state can pad all packets it sends to 38 octets.
+An endpoint can increase the odds that a packet will trigger a Stateless Reset

I would hope that stateless reset is an optional feature and when it is on, resets can be send at senders discretion, e.g. implementing rate limiting.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3833,7 +3833,7 @@ The details of loss detection and congestion control are described in
 The QUIC packet size includes the QUIC header and integrity check, but not the
 UDP or IP header.
 
-Clients MUST ensure that the first Initial packet it sends is sent in a UDP
+Clients MUST ensure that the first Initial packet they sends is sent in a UDP

"Clients ... they send" or "A client ... it sends"

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Assuming it will be quic=1 and not quic=2

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> +| 22    | :scheme                          | http                                                  |
+| 23    | :scheme                          | https                                                 |
+| 24    | :status                          | 200                                                   |
+| 25    | :status                          | 304                                                   |
+| 26    | accept                           | */*                                                   |
+| 27    | accept                           | application/dns-message                               |
+| 28    | accept-encoding                  | gzip, deflate, br                                     |
+| 29    | accept-language                  |                                                       |
+| 30    | authorization                    |                                                       |
+| 31    | cache-control                    | max-age=0                                             |
+| 32    | cache-control                    | max-age=604800                                        |
+| 33    | cache-control                    | max-age=2592000                                       |
+| 34    | cache-control                    | no-cache                                              |
+| 35    | cache-control                    | no-cache, no-store, must-revalidate                   |
+| 36    | cache-control                    | public, max-age=31536000                              |
+| 37    | content-disposition              |                                                       |

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Closed #1689.

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Another question to ask is how useful is it to insert "clear" int= o a
dynamic table, given that some UAs will take that as a signal to leave?

A further question, what is the size comparison of a QPACK static table
reference compared an HTTP/QUIC ALTSVC frame?

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Ignoring overheads that will be the same for both, we're looking at wh= at's inside the payload of the STREAM frame.

Assuming I'm counting correctly:

  • For a reference to the long end of the static table inside a HEADERS = frame you were sending anyway, two bytes.
  • An ALTSVC frame as defined by draft-bishop-httpbis-altsvc-quic-00, ni= ne bytes.

And you're correct, at least some UAs would take that as a signal to c= lose the connection or stop using it, since the Alt-Svc entry was specifi= cally removed. (Most wouldn't close the connection if it just expires, b= ut might hypothetically handle an explicit purge differently.)

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I think you changed my mind on including it. Other values of Alt-Svc seem to be a good fit for dynamic table because they can be lazily set and forget on every response. Indexed name and dynamic value seems like a fair trade off. On Tue, 21 Aug 2018, 19:33 Mike Bishop, wrote: > Ignoring overheads that will be the same for both, we're looking at what's > inside the payload of the STREAM frame. > > Assuming I'm counting correctly: > > - For a reference to the long end of the static table inside a HEADERS > frame you were sending anyway, two bytes. > - An ALTSVC frame as defined by draft-bishop-httpbis-altsvc-quic-00, > nine bytes. > > And you're correct, at least some UAs would take that as a signal to close > the connection or stop using it, since the Alt-Svc entry was specifically > removed. (Most wouldn't close the connection if it just expires, but might > hypothetically handle an explicit purge differently.) > > =E2=80=94 > You are receiving this because you were mentioned. > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > , > or mute the thread > > . > --=20 You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/904#issuecomment-414779548= ----==_mimepart_5b7c5cbb4bd6f_16e523fd2cb8be6288013c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks! I think you changed my mind on including it.

Other values of Alt-Svc seem to be a good fit for dynamic table because
they can be lazily set and forget on every response. Indexed name and
dynamic value seems like a fair trade off.

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> Ignoring overheads that will be the same for both, we're looking a= t what's
> inside the payload of the STREAM frame.
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> frame you were sending anyway, two bytes.
> - An ALTSVC frame as defined by draft-bishop-httpbis-altsvc-quic-00= ,
> nine bytes.
>
> And you're correct, at least some UAs would take that as a signal = to close
> the connection or stop using it, since the Alt-Svc entry was specifica= lly
> removed. (Most wouldn't close the connection if it just expires, b= ut might
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@martinthomson - can you suggest what kind of text you think might help remedy the situation? My read is that we're not going to make protocol changes to address this, but instead "advise caution" as you say.

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More generally, that suggests a good measure of utility for items in the= table. Having the "clear" value present saves four octets in the rare occ= asion it's used. Having the name present saves five octets when alt-svc is= inserted or sent as a literal, which probably happens ~once per connection= . You're actually convincing me the opposite direction, as neither seems t= erribly compelling.

It's tempting to measure each entry on that basis and agree on a cut-off= .

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= ----==_mimepart_5b7c5e191bd99_53053fafbe0d45b4162029-- From nobody Tue Aug 21 11:48:26 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 883CD130E32 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2018 11:48:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id I_1jZfnzw-nh for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2018 11:48:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C18E130E5B for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2018 11:48:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2018 11:48:21 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1534877301; bh=E8Em37FGH6e5hFBt9Zv4CEWWKCXGigdRTht8URopAiY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=LrIWETtdA+J6jiY85Cp4tyDRJm8UzEEFhWTmm6mZBsqOI3sJoB6nble+Juccq0N8m hfdXCEb3k5z6mIF14bwxVNxzbkcbAfUn0edkN4H6JIQsa8dzWaSoyi+dR9zoxlG25C eH9hpRWuypYfxUBJxKBkFHyZe90P18qs7DHWT8pw= From: afrind Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Initial table size is the maximum permitted when table is first usable (#1642) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b7c5e75b8c65_52353fafcd6d45b8157533"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: afrind X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2018 18:48:25 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b7c5e75b8c65_52353fafcd6d45b8157533 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit afrind commented on this pull request. > @@ -127,6 +127,16 @@ The dynamic table consists of a list of header fields maintained in first-in, first-out order. The dynamic table is initially empty. Entries are added by instructions on the encoder stream (see {{encoder-stream}}). +The maximum size of the dynamic table can be modified by the encoder, subject to +a decoder-controlled limit (see {{configuration}} and {{size-update}}). The +initial maximum size is determined by the corresponding setting when HTTP +requests or responses are first permitted to be sent. For clients using 0-RTT +data in HTTP/QUIC, this means that the table size is the remembered value of the s/this means that// > @@ -127,6 +127,16 @@ The dynamic table consists of a list of header fields maintained in first-in, first-out order. The dynamic table is initially empty. Entries are added by instructions on the encoder stream (see {{encoder-stream}}). +The maximum size of the dynamic table can be modified by the encoder, subject to +a decoder-controlled limit (see {{configuration}} and {{size-update}}). The +initial maximum size is determined by the corresponding setting when HTTP +requests or responses are first permitted to be sent. For clients using 0-RTT +data in HTTP/QUIC, this means that the table size is the remembered value of the +setting, even if the server later specifies a larger maximum in its SETTINGS +frame. For HTTP/QUIC servers and HTTP/QUIC clients when 0-RTT is not attempted +or is rejected, this means that the initial maximum table size is the value of and here -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1642#pullrequestreview-148198969 ----==_mimepart_5b7c5e75b8c65_52353fafcd6d45b8157533 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -127,6 +127,16 @@ The dynamic table consists of a list of header fields maintained in first-in,
 first-out order.  The dynamic table is initially empty.  Entries are added by
 instructions on the encoder stream (see {{encoder-stream}}).
 
+The maximum size of the dynamic table can be modified by the encoder, subject to
+a decoder-controlled limit (see {{configuration}} and {{size-update}}).  The
+initial maximum size is determined by the corresponding setting when HTTP
+requests or responses are first permitted to be sent. For clients using 0-RTT
+data in HTTP/QUIC, this means that the table size is the remembered value of the

s/this means that//

In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -127,6 +127,16 @@ The dynamic table consists of a list of header fields maintained in first-in,
 first-out order.  The dynamic table is initially empty.  Entries are added by
 instructions on the encoder stream (see {{encoder-stream}}).
 
+The maximum size of the dynamic table can be modified by the encoder, subject to
+a decoder-controlled limit (see {{configuration}} and {{size-update}}).  The
+initial maximum size is determined by the corresponding setting when HTTP
+requests or responses are first permitted to be sent. For clients using 0-RTT
+data in HTTP/QUIC, this means that the table size is the remembered value of the
+setting, even if the server later specifies a larger maximum in its SETTINGS
+frame.  For HTTP/QUIC servers and HTTP/QUIC clients when 0-RTT is not attempted
+or is rejected, this means that the initial maximum table size is the value of

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2733,8 +2733,8 @@ a small packet might result in Stateless Reset not being useful in detecting
 cases of broken connections where only very small packets are sent; such
 failures might only be detected by other means, such as timers.
 
-An endpoint that wants to improve the chances that it triggers a Stateless Reset
-when its peer loses state can pad all packets it sends to 38 octets.
+An endpoint can increase the odds that a packet will trigger a Stateless Reset

@mikkelfj is right, this doesn't guarantee that you get a stateless reset. The point here is that the odds of receiving one for packets below 38 octets is much lower.

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I think the current sentence is pretty good.

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We're well into wishy-washy land, but this seems clear enough.

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Merged #1682 into master.

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Current text forbids an ACK frame carried by a 1-RTT packet acknowledging a 0-RTT packet.

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  • 1-RTT ACK frames can acknowledge 0-RTT packets

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In this analysis I have looked at c= ost of encoding gaps/loss and ECN-CE marks for a varying number of packet= s included in a single acking. As loss gaps as well as CE marks are expec= ted to result in immediate acking the most realistic cases are that a sin= gle ACK even with one or two RTTs of overlap actually will not contain mo= re than one or two loss or CE mark sequences. Thus I focused on these. Bu= t I also looked at the cost if one gets a lot of transitions back and for= th. I also would like to note that this is focused on the case with worki= ng ECN so no strange behaviors. =0D =0D The overhead for what is currently in -14:=0D =0D Loss/gap | CE | Packets per ACK | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2= =A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0=0D --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | ---=0D =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | 1 | 2 | 5 | 10 | 21 | 56 | 112 | 319 | 2000 | 8000=0D 0 | 0 | 19 | 19 | 19 | 19 | 19 | 19 | 21 | 21 | 21 | 21=0D 0 | 1 | 19 | 19 | 19 | 19 | 19 | 19 | 21 | 21 | 21 | 21=0D 1 | 0 | - | 21 | 21 | 21 | 21 | 21 | 21 | 25 | 25 | 25=0D 1 | 1 | - | 21 | 21 | 21 | 21 | 21 | 21 | 25 | 25 | 25=0D 2 | 1 | - | 23 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 29 | 29 | 29=0D 2 | 2 | - | 23 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 29 | 29 | 29=0D 0 | 2 | - | 19 | 19 | 19 | 19 | 19 | 21 | 21 | 21 | 21=0D 0 | All | 19 | 19 | 19 | 19 | 19 | 19 | 21 | 21 | 21 | 21=0D 5 | 15 | - | =C2=A0 | - | 29 | 29 | 29 | 29 | 29 | 41 | 41=0D 20 | 50 | - | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | 59 | 59 | 59 | 59 | 59 | 101=0D 100 | 300 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | 219 | 2= 19 | 219 | 219=0D =0D For Martins proposal above but encoding marking in the frame type:=0D =0D =0D Loss / GAP | CE | Packets per ACK | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 |= =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0=0D --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | ---=0D =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | 1 | 2 | 5 | 10 | 21 | 56 | 112 | 319 | 2000 | 8000=0D 0 | 0 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 8=0D 0 | 1 | 14 | 14 | 14 | 16 | 16 | 16 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22=0D 1 | 0 | =C2=A0 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 13 | 13 | 13 | 13=0D 1 | 1 | =C2=A0 | 18 | 18 | 18 | 18 | 18 | 20 | 26 | 26 | 26=0D 2 | 1 | =C2=A0 | 20 | 20 | 20 | 20 | 20 | 22 | 30 | 30 | 30=0D 2 | 2 | =C2=A0 | 24 | 24 | 24 | 24 | 24 | 24 | 38 | 38 | 38=0D 0 | 2 | =C2=A0 | 7 | 20 | 20 | 20 | 20 | 20 | 30 | 30 | 30=0D 0 | All | 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 8=0D 5 | 15 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | 82 | 82 | 82 | 82 | 154 | 15= 4=0D 20 | 50 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | 252 | 252 | 252 | = 252 | 494=0D 100 | 300 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 = | 1412 | 1412 | 1412=0D =0D For the single octet blocks with 2-bit marking type:=0D =0D Loss / GAP | CE | Packets per ACK | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 |= =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0=0D --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | ---=0D =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | 1 | 2 | 5 | 10 | 21 | 56 | 112 | 319 | 2000 | 8000=0D 0 | 0 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 8 | 11 | 38 | 131=0D 0 | 1 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 12 | 38 | 132=0D 1 | 0 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 12 | 38 | 132=0D 1 | 1 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 12 | 39 | 132=0D 2 | 1 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 14 | 38 | 134=0D 2 | 2 | 11 | 11 | 11 | 11 | 11 | 11 | 11 | 11 | 41 | 131=0D 0 | 2 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 12 | 39 | 132=0D 0 | All | 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 8 | 11 | 38 | 131=0D 5 | 15 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | 27 | 27 | 27 | 48 |= 132=0D 20 | 50 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | 78 | 78 | 78 | 78 = | 149=0D 100 | 300 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 = | 408 | 408 | 408=0D =0D The conclusions I can draw that is that Martin's scheme for one or two ch= anges in the range being acked are basically equivalent to the current sc= heme while providing more explicit information about which packets being = marked. The single byte ack block outperforms both the current and martin= s proposal for low rate of changes and for ack vector lengths up to a few= hundred packets. After that the ACK vector growth becomes larger due to = the one byte per 64 packets. However, this growth is low enough that a si= ngle minimal MTU (1280 bytes) will be able to ack a range that is more th= an 70000 packets. Compare this to the Bandwidth delay product to packet r= ate table above for perspective. =0D =0D For cases with high frequency of alternating marking the one byte scheme = will be more efficient. This because if one have mix of packet losses and= CE marks (likely under severe congestion) then one ends up encoding both= CE marks and losses as gaps in the ECT ack vector. Thus martins proposal= will have a higher total number of transitions needed to be encoded than= the one byte proposal. I will note that calculation performed is the wor= st case when it comes to transitions with them evenly spread between arri= ving packets both gaps and CE marks. =0D =0D There is also a difference when it comes to performing verification of th= e ECN between these solutions. So Martin's proposal require for different= markings or frame types to express if a packet arrived with Not-Ect, ECT= (0), ECT(1), and ECN-CE. The 1-byte block can only do marking in two bits= by employing information loss for a non-expected case. The non-default E= CT marking will have to be reported in the Not-ECT type to indicate this = non-expected behavior. And if anyone like to use this for a QUIC connecti= on that uses both ECT(0) and ECT(1) it will not be possible to carry thro= ugh, even if one could define a transport parameter to say that there is = no default ECT and both shall be reported as ECT. =0D =0D In the end I think this comes down to the question of how much processing= overhead the schemes incur versus the differences there actually are bet= ween them. I personally need to think a bit more about that. =0D =0D -- = You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1439#issuecomment-415039038= ----==_mimepart_5b7d6a7dcdfad_768f3fbb2e4be61811107f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I spent some time analyzing the overhead impact of these two proposals= and compared them against the original. In this analysis I have looked a= t cost of encoding gaps/loss and ECN-CE marks for a varying number of pac= kets included in a single acking. As loss gaps as well as CE marks are ex= pected to result in immediate acking the most realistic cases are that a = single ACK even with one or two RTTs of overlap actually will not contain= more than one or two loss or CE mark sequences. Thus I focused on these.= But I also looked at the cost if one gets a lot of transitions back and = forth. I also would like to note that this is focused on the case with wo= rking ECN so no strange behaviors.

The overhead for what is currently in -14:

Loss/gap CE Packets per ACK =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 1 2 5 10 21 56 112 319 2000
0 0 19 19 19 19 19 19 21 21 21
0 1 19 19 19 19 19 19 21 21 21
1 0 - 21 21 21 21 21 21 25 25
1 1 - 21 21 21 21 21 21 25 25
2 1 - 23 23 23 23 23 23 29 29
2 2 - 23 23 23 23 23 23 29 29
0 2 - 19 19 19 19 19 21 21 21
0 All 19 19 19 19 19 19 21 21 21
5 15 - =C2=A0 - 29 29 29 29 29 41
20 50 - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 59 59 59 59 59
100 300 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 219 219 219

For Martins proposal above but encoding marking in the frame type:

=
Loss / GAP CE Packets per ACK =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 1 2 5 10 21 56 112 319 2000
0 0 7 7 7 7 7 7 8 8 8
0 1 14 14 14 16 16 16 22 22 22
1 0 =C2=A0 9 9 9 9 9 13 13 13
1 1 =C2=A0 18 18 18 18 18 20 26 26
2 1 =C2=A0 20 20 20 20 20 22 30 30
2 2 =C2=A0 24 24 24 24 24 24 38 38
0 2 =C2=A0 7 20 20 20 20 20 30 30
0 All 7 7 7 7 7 7 8 8 8
5 15 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 82 82 82 82 154
20 50 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 252 252 252 252
100 300 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 1412 1412

For the single octet blocks with 2-bit marking type:

Loss / GAP CE Packets per ACK =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 1 2 5 10 21 56 112 319 2000
0 0 7 7 7 7 7 7 8 11 38
0 1 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 12 38
1 0 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 12 38
1 1 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 12 39
2 1 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 14 38
2 2 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 41
0 2 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 12 39
0 All 7 7 7 7 7 7 8 11 38
5 15 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 27 27 27 48
20 50 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 78 78 78 78
100 300 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 408 408

The conclusions I can draw that is that Martin's scheme for one or two= changes in the range being acked are basically equivalent to the current= scheme while providing more explicit information about which packets bei= ng marked. The single byte ack block outperforms both the current and mar= tins proposal for low rate of changes and for ack vector lengths up to a = few hundred packets. After that the ACK vector growth becomes larger due = to the one byte per 64 packets. However, this growth is low enough that a= single minimal MTU (1280 bytes) will be able to ack a range that is more= than 70000 packets. Compare this to the Bandwidth delay product to packe= t rate table above for perspective.

For cases with high frequency of alternating marking the one byte sche= me will be more efficient. This because if one have mix of packet losses = and CE marks (likely under severe congestion) then one ends up encoding b= oth CE marks and losses as gaps in the ECT ack vector. Thus martins propo= sal will have a higher total number of transitions needed to be encoded t= han the one byte proposal. I will note that calculation performed is the = worst case when it comes to transitions with them evenly spread between a= rriving packets both gaps and CE marks.

There is also a difference when it comes to performing verification of= the ECN between these solutions. So Martin's proposal require for differ= ent markings or frame types to express if a packet arrived with Not-Ect, = ECT(0), ECT(1), and ECN-CE. The 1-byte block can only do marking in two b= its by employing information loss for a non-expected case. The non-defaul= t ECT marking will have to be reported in the Not-ECT type to indicate th= is non-expected behavior. And if anyone like to use this for a QUIC conne= ction that uses both ECT(0) and ECT(1) it will not be possible to carry t= hrough, even if one could define a transport parameter to say that there = is no default ECT and both shall be reported as ECT.

In the end I think this comes down to the question of how much process= ing overhead the schemes incur versus the differences there actually are = between them. I personally need to think a bit more about that.

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  • 7a13745 this means that you remove words

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Independent clauses of a compound sentence can be joined by a coordinating conjunction (for, and, nor, but, or, yet, so) or a semicolon.

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The paragraph says the a SETTING frame must be the first frame on a control stream but it does not specifies which error should be sent if that is not the case.

A SETTINGS frame MUST be sent as the first frame of either control stream (see {{stream-mapping}}) by each peer, and MUST NOT be sent subsequently or on any other stream. If an endpoint receives an SETTINGS frame on a different stream, the endpoint MUST respond with a connection error of type HTTP_WRONG_STREAM. If an endpoint receives a second SETTINGS frame, the endpoint MUST respond with a connection error of type HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME.

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Also, the control streams are now not so prominent in the referenced section. I'm thinking a more generally clean-up is warranted, and perhaps even separating control vs. request/response streams.

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All goodness.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -93,8 +93,9 @@ informative:
 --- abstract
 
 This document defines the core of the QUIC transport protocol.  This document
-describes connection establishment, packet format, multiplexing and reliability.
-Accompanying documents describe the cryptographic handshake and loss detection.
+describes connection establishment, packet format, multiplexing, and
+reliability.  Accompanying documents describe the cryptographic handshake and
+loss detection.

Took me a minute to find the added comma.

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@MikeBishop requested changes on this pull request.

Good catch that the words don't line up, but I think the right fix is in the other direction.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -384,7 +384,7 @@ state), the proxy will set the FIN bit on its connection to the TCP server. When
 the proxy receives a packet with the FIN bit set, it will terminate the send
 stream that it sends to client. TCP connections which remain half-closed in a
 single direction are not invalid, but are often handled poorly by servers, so
-clients SHOULD NOT cause send a STREAM frame with a FIN bit for connections on
+clients SHOULD NOT send a STREAM frame with a FIN bit for connections on

This probably needs more words, not fewer. The HTTP layer doesn't directly send STREAM frames, which is why there's a "cause" in there. Maybe "clients SHOULD NOT close a stream for sending for streams on which they still expect to receive data from the target of the CONNECT"?

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Fri, 24 Aug 2018 01:30:19 -0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 18:30:18 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: <5b7f5faa31e6a_66b2acae466eed07772@hookshot-fe-88eb02d.cp1-iad.github.net.mail> Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] d48be8: Fix nits in transport draft Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b7f5faa31a97_66b2acae466eed076e1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 01:30:30 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b7f5faa31a97_66b2acae466eed076e1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: d48be8e7aa7d026954a32d3dabb7be7d147d5bb1 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d48be8e7aa7d026954a32d3dabb7be7d147d5bb1 Author: Amir Livneh Date: 2018-08-23 (Thu, 23 Aug 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Fix nits in transport draft Commit: cda6445cddd69ef3ceebfe06b15fbf39c1b6be3a https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/cda6445cddd69ef3ceebfe06b15fbf39c1b6be3a Author: Amir Livneh Date: 2018-08-23 (Thu, 23 Aug 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Wrap lines Commit: 6544530059e3547f0d0b403b8f48a9c16159e49e https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6544530059e3547f0d0b403b8f48a9c16159e49e Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-08-24 (Fri, 24 Aug 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1698 from amirlivneh/patch-7 Fix nits in transport draft Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/9a1466780d4b...6544530059e3 **NOTE:** This service has been marked for deprecation: https://developer.github.com/changes/2018-04-25-github-services-deprecation/ Functionality will be removed from GitHub.com on January 31st, 2019. ----==_mimepart_5b7f5faa31a97_66b2acae466eed076e1-- From nobody Thu Aug 23 18:30:40 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21ED9130FBF for ; 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Those two instances of "forward-secure" remind me that I've been meaning to remove that (it's a Google QUIC vestige).

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Merged #1701 into master.

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable After having read Martin's updated proposal on the mailing list I wanted = to post overhead figures for that encoding also. So this is the case of u= sing 2 bits per block to encode the change delta value of the type so tha= t all 5 types can be used, and then have a variant of the variable length= encoding but with 2 less usable bits for values. =0D =0D =0D Loss / GAP | CE | Packets per ACK | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 |= =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | | | | =C2=A0=0D --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | ---=0D =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | 1 | 2 | 5 | 10 | 21 | 56 | 112 | 319 | 2000 | 8000=0D 0 | 0 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 9=0D 0 | 1 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10=0D 1 | 0 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10=0D 1 | 1 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 12=0D 2 | 1 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 14 | 14 | 14 | 14=0D 2 | 2 | 11 | 11 | 11 | 11 | 11 | 11 | 16 | 16 | 16 | 16=0D 0 | 2 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 12=0D 0 | All | 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 9=0D 5 | 15 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | 27 | 27 | 27 | 48 |= 48=0D 20 | 50 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | 78 | 78 | 78 | 149= | 149=0D 100 | 300 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 = | 408 | 408 | 809=0D =0D As I see it this has the best properties when it comes to overhead. More = efficient for small ack vectors, efficient encoding for larger ranges. Ye= s the additional byte comes at 16 rather than 64 consecutive packets but = the the other choices are worse from my perspective. =0D -- = You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1439#issuecomment-415775598= ----==_mimepart_5b8015d43bf3_b663f7f114d45c06312e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

After having read Martin's updated proposal on the mailing list I want= ed to post overhead figures for that encoding also. So this is the case o= f using 2 bits per block to encode the change delta value of the type so = that all 5 types can be used, and then have a variant of the variable len= gth encoding but with 2 less usable bits for values.

Loss / GAP | CE | Packets per ACK | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0= | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | | | | =C2=A0
--- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | ---
= =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | 1 | 2 | 5 | 10 | 21 | 56 | 112 | 319 | 2000 | 8000
0 | 0 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 9
0 | 1 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10
1 | 0 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10
1 | 1 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 12
2 | 1 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 14 | 14 | 14 | 14
2 | 2 | 11 | 11 | 11 | 11 | 11 | 11 | 16 | 16 | 16 | 16
0 | 2 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 12
0 | All | 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 9
5 | 15 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | 27 | 27 | 27 | 48 |= 48
20 | 50 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | 78 | 78 | 78 | 149= | 149
100 | 300 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 = | 408 | 408 | 809

As I see it this has the best properties when it comes to overhead. Mo= re efficient for small ack vectors, efficient encoding for larger ranges.= Yes the additional byte comes at 16 rather than 64 consecutive packets b= ut the the other choices are worse from my perspective.

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Draft-transport-14 says:

   Senders SHOULD coalesce packets in order of increasing encryption
   levels (Initial, Handshake, 0-RTT, 1-RTT), as this makes it more
   likely the receiver will be able to process all the packets in a
   single pass.  A packet with a short header does not include a length,
   so it will always be the last packet included in a UDP datagram.

The use of normative language here is interesting, and raises a few questions:

  1. The spec says SHOULD. This implicitly means "MAY do something else". What, why, under which circumstances?

  2. Are the peers supposed to enforce that requirement in any way?

In any case, the natural order in which packets are processed is not (Initial, Handshake, 0-RTT, 1-RTT), but rather (Initial, 0-RTT, Handshake, 1-RTT), as in "ACK of Server Hello", "EOED", "Client Finished", "Application data". I suggest rewriting to:

   Coalescing packets in order of increasing encryption
   levels (Initial, 0-RTT, Handshake, 1-RTT) makes it more
   likely the receiver will be able to process all the packets in a
   single pass.  A packet with a short header does not include a length,
   so it will always be the last packet included in a UDP datagram.

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I agree with Lucas, I'd prefer simple numerical values given that's al= l we're using in v1.

One could negotiate an extension later to enable other values once/if = we have a clear idea of what those are, but I tend to think it'll never b= e necessary.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -143,8 +143,9 @@ coordinate their experiments on the quic@ietf.org mailing list.
 ## Discovering an HTTP/QUIC Endpoint
 
 An HTTP origin advertises the availability of an equivalent HTTP/QUIC endpoint
-via the Alt-Svc HTTP response header or the HTTP/2 ALTSVC frame ({{!RFC7838}}),
-using the ALPN token defined in {{connection-establishment}}.
+via the Alt-Svc HTTP response header or the HTTP/2 ALTSVC frame

s/header/header field/

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----==_mimepart_5b8388b697b5d_27d2b3fd6378be618161386-- From nobody Sun Aug 26 22:19:08 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C7DC130DE0 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 22:19:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.997 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.997 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RMs1yukXiTuc for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 22:19:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from m69-170.mailgun.net (m69-170.mailgun.net [166.78.69.170]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D3DBD130E69 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 22:19:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; v=1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; q=dns/txt; s=mailo; t=1535347144; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type: Mime-Version: Subject: Message-ID: To: Reply-To: From: Date: Sender; bh=opHe+dLLN/No1Gy0fh8hjXMCUHTod0MoYB30Ff122wU=; b=PeVTYjElewX3Awn7TTWurlrDB+k0mMl4s6lR7KdaA6xfM+d5YoUu1Vxg6gXjqgy1a312JcMi YtZDnZu5qXBU4YHSiy4ijTXjXGGI8H93PghN9OpKl4gxbJRBMSgJqn/nYj6WbBo3xUEU5vY/ kX5rbgZdTwv45XNHmbwhcB8daqU= X-Mailgun-Sending-Ip: 166.78.69.170 X-Mailgun-Sid: WyJhNzYyYiIsICJxdWljLWlzc3Vlc0BpZXRmLm9yZyIsICI0MGYiXQ== Sender: martin.thomson=gmail.com@github.com Received: from github.com (Unknown [192.30.252.36]) by mxa.mailgun.org with ESMTP id 5b8389c7.7fd40b8d2ba0-smtp-out-n03; Mon, 27 Aug 2018 05:19:03 -0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2018 22:19:03 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: <5b8389c77ad60_bc02ad9533e6ec478025@hookshot-fe-cace476.cp1-iad.github.net.mail> Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] 9f1cab: Clarify use of the term "supports ECN" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b8389c77a636_bc02ad9533e6ec47794c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2018 05:19:06 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b8389c77a636_bc02ad9533e6ec47794c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: 9f1cab9361e12cc0780d97239c2833f86a8cfc3b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9f1cab9361e12cc0780d97239c2833f86a8cfc3b Author: mirjak Date: 2018-08-01 (Wed, 01 Aug 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Clarify use of the term "supports ECN" See issue #158: "support" should only be used for the path. I have left two occasions where it is used for both the path and the peer but I think that is okay because it only addresses the case where there is no support. Commit: 722b8b5304efb2e34a84111ad9595fc03aeb9948 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/722b8b5304efb2e34a84111ad9595fc03aeb9948 Author: mirjak Date: 2018-08-02 (Thu, 02 Aug 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- comments by martinthomson Commit: 7f405f8cbc2aee2bbfcd7dc3e61b60f4bb247153 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7f405f8cbc2aee2bbfcd7dc3e61b60f4bb247153 Author: mirjak Date: 2018-08-06 (Mon, 06 Aug 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Another wording comment by @martinthomson + remove trailing whitespace Commit: f560aefac6325b8dabd7581594bb50cb86306d02 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f560aefac6325b8dabd7581594bb50cb86306d02 Author: mirjak Date: 2018-08-09 (Thu, 09 Aug 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- comments @MikeBishop Commit: adfd8fab5ae6671414456e02b377a90412552812 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/adfd8fab5ae6671414456e02b377a90412552812 Author: mirjak Date: 2018-08-10 (Fri, 10 Aug 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- tailing space :-( Commit: e1458737054dc23ca1dc899fce1333cfba3bf3dd https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e1458737054dc23ca1dc899fce1333cfba3bf3dd Author: mirjak Date: 2018-08-10 (Fri, 10 Aug 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- line break Commit: d1026527f33d091842738e5b901ae2cc14c2c2cf https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d1026527f33d091842738e5b901ae2cc14c2c2cf Author: mirjak Date: 2018-08-10 (Fri, 10 Aug 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- tailing space agian stupid... or not enough coffee... Commit: dcc941812e5b357f32824ecae49efc70141e316f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/dcc941812e5b357f32824ecae49efc70141e316f Author: mirjak Date: 2018-08-14 (Tue, 14 Aug 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- one more "support" in the ACK_ECN Frame section Commit: ca26a9f98a44c0e1d0d412b5731df02d638c9940 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ca26a9f98a44c0e1d0d412b5731df02d638c9940 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-08-27 (Mon, 27 Aug 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Fix grammar for #1631 Commit: 39d9d29ceb0359899229e6c36a01152079b36322 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/39d9d29ceb0359899229e6c36a01152079b36322 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-08-27 (Mon, 27 Aug 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge branch 'ecn-1631' Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/8147f59ca2c4...39d9d29ceb03 **NOTE:** This service has been marked for deprecation: https://developer.github.com/changes/2018-04-25-github-services-deprecation/ Functionality will be removed from GitHub.com on January 31st, 2019. ----==_mimepart_5b8389c77a636_bc02ad9533e6ec47794c-- From nobody Sun Aug 26 22:19:14 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18C5F130DE0 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 22:19:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xmT7vAoQkKhf for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 22:19:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 28D0D130E78 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 22:19:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2018 22:19:08 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1535347148; bh=HojbEz3SxWvxxrJM+wNa4THSxjnUwz9abVpHPLfxSZo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ixCERHRho7BHgBuqSLpgcGZR4qQkOdz1Ex5WndD1N4/gmNnJDwJmeHDA3Vr1y6WZr X5pXIR4HFC4mA12FG4zYAWcxjiIRIbNhEe7BkDZNQW5OaAcuu4bTZzd+bVAYlAawFs xu3p+VUQYoy2H4I4Gm7XVoH5nz2XYrUm6+jE603U= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clarify use of the term "supports ECN" (#1631) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b8389cc2e544_25e23f930e4be62417876a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2018 05:19:11 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b8389cc2e544_25e23f930e4be62417876a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Merged #1631 into master. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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This is the result of discussion on #1287, but I like your rewording of this and will commit that change :)

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As we agreed, payload is the bytes that we protect, content is the more abstract notion of what needs to be communicated (for which we use frames). That was already mostly right, apart from a few places. 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I did a complete pass through and it wasn't that bad. As we agreed,
payload is the bytes that we protect, content is the more abstract
notion of what needs to be communicated (for which we use frames). That
was already mostly right, apart from a few places.

Closes #1676.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1703

Commit Summary

  • Reconcile 'content' and 'payload'

File Changes

Patch Links:

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an endpoint MAY limit the rate at which it sends PATH_RESPONSE frames<= /p>

This needs no recommendation in my view. This only allows for PATH_CH= ALLENGE to be dropped by a recipient, like the network might do.

Until a peer's address is deemed valid, an endpoint MUST limit the rat= e at which it sends data to this address.

This needs to use the IW rules.

An endpoint SHOULD abandon path validation after sending some number o= f PATH_CHALLENGE frames or after some time has passed

No recommendation needed here.

A receiver MAY send MAX_STREAM_DATA frames in multiple packets

Or here.

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So they aren't really safe for much. Describe the limitations and advise a very narrow usage. I really hope that this choice doesn't bite us later. It doesn't feel that good, but I don't know how to fix this without going back to just one Retry (and even then a solution would be ugly). Closes #1647. **NOTE:** This service has been marked for deprecation: https://developer.github.com/changes/2018-04-25-github-services-deprecation/ Functionality will be removed from GitHub.com on January 31st, 2019. ----==_mimepart_5b8393ccd817b_21db2ae96873aec04397-- From nobody Sun Aug 26 23:02:51 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43373130E53 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 23:02:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id y_oCRhu4rLxh for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 23:02:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A1550130DD2 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 23:02:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2018 23:02:00 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1535349720; bh=M0uQ4LVhbcDymR4LIFootCbPrnIm8bWvEaNG3Lp7PaI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Mh2Kz3azKu4vuIt/HF8bXi1h0deiv+aw2tNLXtzYbUMVftf+Kxq2nozSFp2iHN7Dm zNVfVJxKHj9HITVHZuIVtRHbf3sU5fjjf6t3tm4VMHuRAtInTDPeu3oxsLzCtI5FrC 5h2C0M0LcF9wiYUPCI+iFHl7DcxYloNi9myp8NW0= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Tokens are a mess (#1704) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b8393d8b4dbb_49ef3f93c9ed45bc3038c6"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2018 06:02:05 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b8393d8b4dbb_49ef3f93c9ed45bc3038c6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We can't realistically authenticate all tokens with up to three Retry packets and the NEW_TOKEN message. So they aren't really safe for much. Describe the limitations and advise a very narrow usage. I really hope that this choice doesn't bite us later. It doesn't feel that good, but I don't know how to fix this without going back to just one Retry (and even then a solution would be ugly). Closes #1647. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1704 -- Commit Summary -- * Tokens are a mess -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (8) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1704.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1704.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1704 ----==_mimepart_5b8393d8b4dbb_49ef3f93c9ed45bc3038c6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

We can't realistically authenticate all tokens with up to three Retry
packets and the NEW_TOKEN message. So they aren't really safe for much.
Describe the limitations and advise a very narrow usage.

I really hope that this choice doesn't bite us later. It doesn't feel
that good, but I don't know how to fix this without going back to just
one Retry (and even then a solution would be ugly).

Closes #1647.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1704

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  • Tokens are a mess

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The only signal we can rely on is size. 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There were a few case where version negotiation talked about Initial
packets unnecessarily. The only signal we can rely on is size.

Closes #1666.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1705

Commit Summary

  • Cleanup Initial packet use

File Changes

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If I remember correctly, we discussed this in Montreal, and decided to a= t least authenticate the token in a way that makes it impossible for middle= boxes to perform a Retry. Do I remember this wrong?

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= ----==_mimepart_5b83969cbe3e3_67d83ffc124d45c4299351-- From nobody Sun Aug 26 23:23:27 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB4AD130DD2 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 23:23:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18QT821CP--M for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 23:23:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6D55712F1A2 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 23:23:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2018 23:23:23 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1535351003; bh=lIg02HiHxcKrxwVE3hGaTS2ni66+T2Z3bEGzR2eCXZE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ArOBdNsFkUvaGBgJkgCub+P37G+pz4Xw8ctAuZ13YJMvMfuCewQNl02TgxRqIMFvx 1U2gN66iHGD6u/y/HJkpoO63fdpMSNFKvBftDfKW+oEJ1DXX6dpZB5LT0iLYSMBZ/+ Ao3WGS5MggrrWSQO3mio4rNE80taNRkglNyg2zlQ= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Tokens are a mess (#1704) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b8398dba528d_3ccf3f83adcd45b893773"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2018 06:23:26 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b8398dba528d_3ccf3f83adcd45b893773 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Frankly, that week is now a vague blur. I think that there was discussion of this point in relation to the looping issue, but I don't recall a proposal to authenticate it/them. For those who want this feature, it would be a serious architectural imposition to require authentication. That said, if we're going to authenticate the initial connection ID, then that would present an opportunity to fix this problem as well. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1704#issuecomment-416126592 ----==_mimepart_5b8398dba528d_3ccf3f83adcd45b893773 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Frankly, that week is now a vague blur. I think that there was discus= sion of this point in relation to the looping issue, but I don't recall a= proposal to authenticate it/them. For those who want this feature, it w= ould be a serious architectural imposition to require authentication.

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Without this, the client tends to end up with little more than half their IW if 0-RTT is rejected, which isn't ideal. 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I did raise an issue where I touched upon a checksum and @martinthomson more explicitly stated the issu= e of using unauthenticated tokens. This was probably before that meeting = which I did not attend to. Later the issue was resolved with no action on= checksum and no argument as to why that was decided. This is all from vo= latile memory. I think even a simple short checksum could go a long way t= o protect against some forms of attack.

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This turns out to be quite simple. Lots of red in this change. This treats ECT(1) as equivalent to unmarked, meaning that QUIC won't be able to use ECT(1) without an extension or revision. That keeps the encoding simpler. 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This takes the design discussed on the list and enacts it. This turns
out to be quite simple. Lots of red in this change.

This treats ECT(1) as equivalent to unmarked, meaning that QUIC won't be
able to use ECT(1) without an extension or revision. That keeps the
encoding simpler.

Closes #1439.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1706

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  • Unified ACK frame

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@gloinul commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-~~~
-  largest = previous_smallest - gap - 2
-~~~
-
-If the calculated value for largest or smallest packet number for any ACK Block
-is negative, an endpoint MUST generate a connection error of type
-FRAME_ENCODING_ERROR indicating an error in an ACK frame.
+: Packets that are ECT(0) marked are acknowledged using a type of 3.

Should this read .. using a type of 2?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-The value of the Gap field establishes the largest packet number value for the
-ACK block that follows the gap using the following formula:
+ECT(0) Marked (2):

I wonder if this type should be called just ECT Marked (2). And then make it clear that only packet with an expected ECT codepoint is to be reported. The default behavior is that only ECT(0) SHALL be reported using this type. Future extensions may change which code points that are reported using this type. That way extensions, such as a L4S congestion control extension in the future can define that ECT(1) is the one to be reported using this type after the end-point has agreed on that.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-~~~
-  largest = previous_smallest - gap - 2
-~~~
-
-If the calculated value for largest or smallest packet number for any ACK Block
-is negative, an endpoint MUST generate a connection error of type
-FRAME_ENCODING_ERROR indicating an error in an ACK frame.
+: Packets that are ECT(0) marked are acknowledged using a type of 3.

type of 2?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-: A variable-length integer indicating the number of contiguous packets
-  preceding the Largest Acknowledged that are being acknowledged.
+The range of acknowledged values in each ACK Block is inclusive of its largest
+value and is described in numerically decreasing order.  Each ACK Block includes

acknowledged values -> acknowledged packet numbers?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-Each Gap indicates a range of packets that are not being acknowledged.  The
-number of packets in the gap is one higher than the encoded value of the Gap
-Field.
+: Unmarked packets are those packets that are acknowledged, but for which the
+  ECN marking is either not present, ECT(1), or unknown.

@gloinul suggested generic ECT - how about a generic term such as negotiated ECT code point and have a TP section stating that ECT is always ECT(0) by default but may change in future versions? An agreed ECT mark could also be accepting both ECT(0) and ECT(1), but it is not important here.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1875,46 +1874,20 @@ Congestion Experienced (CE) codepoint set by a network device that is
 experiencing congestion.
 
 On receiving a packet with an ECT or CE codepoint, an endpoint that can access
-the IP ECN codepoints increases the corresponding ECT(0), ECT(1), or CE count,
-and includes these counters in subsequent (see {{processing-and-ack}}) ACK_ECN
-frames (see {{frame-ack-ecn}}).
+the IP ECN codepoints records the markings for that packet.  This information is
+reported in ACK frames (see {{processing-and-ack}}).  Packets bearing ECT(1) are
+reported as though they were not marked.

I'm not sure if this is the best choice. I think it would be more future-proof to have the ACK block type (2) as meaning either ECT(0) or ECT(1) marked because that makes it possible to switch over to a mechanism that uses ECT(1) as default marking without changing the feedback (which is the current idea of these the codepoint - basically you mark all you packets either ECT(0) or all them ECT(1) but you don't use both in the same connection as ECN Nonce did).

However, no providing feedback on one of the marking, also means testing is less easy. If you could use both of the codepoints at least for testing you can detect if there is a box overwriting the codepoint to either ECT(0) or ECT(1). However, I guess you can find another mechanism to get this kind of feedback if needed, e.g. tell the other endpoint what the default ECT is that you are planning to use in the TP and then have a separate feedback frame that tells you if the other unexpected ECT was observed.

The other option is of course to use a third bit for one of the cases, e.g. if the ACK block type is (2) you need to check the next bit that indicates you if this was a ECT(0) or ECT(1). Or you could use the third bit to indicate either a gap/loss or CE mark as both blocks should usually be rather small and both indicate congestion.

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----==_mimepart_5b83e683b2c5d_75f83fd196cd45b83313e0-- From nobody Mon Aug 27 06:13:33 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FD6E130DD1 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2018 06:13:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pk1HndZgz46D for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2018 06:13:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o4.sgmail.github.com (o4.sgmail.github.com [192.254.112.99]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA700124C04 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2018 06:13:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=YZey+S8OjBlaYut76A010/UPFvY=; b=GHykjpL7M9PaHZMk prPE4MIgZr7hVkeG+rE9FKzAZ76e+hMFOWsg3Yh3/pQsuTs6GbD2V/JU9ILa2ioQ l0DcgGUg6cAZNfSR5616vq5V+R6bX1Cwwbc/IS8WcK5MZs4gMia5aV7CifyYNckp 8Y+yFHFqVKAqewAQwKhosfYp8Kw= Received: by filter1182p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter1182p1las1-16672-5B83F8F8-23 2018-08-27 13:13:28.874170742 +0000 UTC m=+247015.887722900 Received: from github-lowworker13-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (unknown [192.30.252.42]) by ismtpd0005p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id 629M3W3sRvmU_xI5ZjTKcg for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2018 13:13:28.760 +0000 (UTC) Received: from github.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by github-lowworker13-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B832220BE1 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2018 06:13:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2018 13:13:29 +0000 (UTC) From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Tokens are a mess (#1704) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b83f8f8b63fb_59e23fcf71abe6242576b4"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak3Fp1RW+cbwpHfYxTtnYW++1KB20qepw1/45m HAWfR8zuPdjqpxtfoq+9/B4Q8vO4FzCgHqkcnZ62QIhzfAWLMfBMSjbtDrDsmPbCCc2E+gvF77cb/s 8bW/quDuegyepvaB1AeXP0GVbbLB8IkeMcGQ+XQ3gEcC+gGNRV3xTIuO/Zj8zeJgHUl/93e4rqWp7P A= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2018 13:13:32 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b83f8f8b63fb_59e23fcf71abe6242576b4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm also still not a fan of multiple retries. I think it's a case of us over-designing something for use cases we don't fully understand and making implementations a lot more complex. I thought it would end up being complex, and it's ended up being much worse than I anticipated. But I realize that's a wider issue that is out of scope of this PR, so I'll take this to the list. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1704#issuecomment-416222113 ----==_mimepart_5b83f8f8b63fb_59e23fcf71abe6242576b4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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@MikeBishop approved this pull request.

Good improvement.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-Servers MUST drop incoming packets under all other circumstances. They
-SHOULD send a Stateless Reset ({{stateless-reset}}) if a connection ID
-is present in the header.
+Servers MUST drop incoming packets under all other circumstances.  They SHOULD
+send a Stateless Reset ({{stateless-reset}}) if a connection ID is present in
+the header.

I know the change here is pure rewrap, but I don't think this statement ever applies as stated. The CID is always present, but potentially zero-length. For short-header packets, the server can't tell what the CID length is.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1334,10 +1334,10 @@ response to each packet that might initiate a new connection, see
 {{packet-handling}} for details.
 
 The size of the first packet sent by a client will determine whether a server
-sends a Version Negotiation packet. Clients that support multiple QUIC
-versions SHOULD pad their Initial packets to reflect the largest minimum
-Initial packet size of all their versions. This ensures that the server
-responds if there are any mutually supported versions.
+sends a Version Negotiation packet. Clients that support multiple QUIC versions
+SHOULD pad the first packet they send to the largest of the minimum packet size

"largest... size" or "largest of the... sizes"

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -786,6 +786,14 @@ Note:
   the packet is discarded.  A server MAY encode tokens provided with NEW_TOKEN
   frames and Retry packets differently, and validate the latter more strictly.
 
+In a stateless design, a server can use encrypted and authenticated tokens to
+pass information to clients that the server can later recover and use to
+validate a client address.  Tokens are not integrated into the crypto graphic

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3281,7 +3254,13 @@ An ACK frame is shown below.
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
 |                       ACK Block Count (i)                   ...
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
-|                          ACK Blocks (*)                     ...
+|                          ACK Block 1 (i)                   ...

Consistency nit: I believe the other ...s line up with the edge of the graphic, as in the removed line. You're left-shifting them here.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 ACK Blocks:
 
-: Contains one or more blocks of packet numbers which have been successfully
-  received, see {{ack-block-section}}.
+: An ACK block is encoded as a variable-length integer.  The encoding of the ACK

Here and above, it's not clear when you capitalize Block and when you don't. I'd suggest capitalizing references to the the field itself, but the structure contained inside is a lower-case ACK block. Always capitalizing would make sense, too.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -|                    Additional ACK Block (i)                 ...
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
-|                             Gap (i)                         ...
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
-|                    Additional ACK Block (i)                 ...
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
-                               ...
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
-|                             Gap (i)                         ...
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
-|                    Additional ACK Block (i)                 ...
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
-~~~
-{: #ack-block-format title="ACK Block Section"}
+```
+ack_type_i = decode_varint() & 3

Just for completeness, maybe include the left-shift to get the size here as well?

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Thanks for doing this.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1109,7 +1109,7 @@ Stateless Reset do not contain frames.
 |                          Frame N (*)                        ...
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
 ~~~
-{: #packet-frames title="Contents of Protected Payload"}
+{: #packet-frames title="QUIC Payload"}
 
 Protected payloads MUST contain at least one frame, and MAY contain multiple

You removed the term "protected payload" from the title of the figure, but not from the following paragraph.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -566,8 +566,8 @@ wishes to perform a stateless retry (see {{stateless-retry}}).
 
 A Retry packet (shown in {{retry-format}}) only uses the invariant portion of
 the long packet header {{QUIC-INVARIANTS}}; that is, the fields up to and
-including the Destination and Source Connection ID fields.  The contents of the
-Retry packet are not protected.  Like Version Negotiation, a Retry packet
+including the Destination and Source Connection ID fields.  The Payload of a

Could go either way, but I'd lean toward not capitalizing this usage, or saying "The Payload field"

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This cleans those up within the HTTP document. We also have "stream headers" in the unidirectional case, but I eliminated the term "frame header" for simplicity. Do we actually need a name for the part of the frame layout that precedes the payload, or are references to the Length and Type fields sufficient? You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1707 -- Commit Summary -- * Headers and header fields -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (30) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1707.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1707.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1707 ----==_mimepart_5b84444254a09_10fd3f8d000d45b8142395 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

While we all use "headers" colloquially most the time, it seems that the "correct" usage that is followed by RFCs has "the header" being the thing that precedes the body and "header fields" as the individual name-value entries within the header. This cleans those up within the HTTP document.

We also have "stream headers" in the unidirectional case, but I eliminated the term "frame header" for simplicity. Do we actually need a name for the part of the frame layout that precedes the payload, or are references to the Length and Type fields sufficient?

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1707

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -297,7 +297,7 @@ of informational (1xx) HTTP responses (see {{!RFC7230}}, Section 3.2 and
 PUSH_PROMISE frames (see {{frame-push-promise}}) MAY be interleaved with the
 frames of a response message indicating a pushed resource related to the
 response. These PUSH_PROMISE frames are not part of the response, but carry the
-headers of a separate HTTP request message.  See {{server-push}} for more
+headers of separate HTTP request messages.  See {{server-push}} for more

I think this falls into the trap that HTTP/QUIC PUSH_PROMISE frames can be sent multiple times. Was the original text supposed to capture that design feature? The new text seems to lose that description (PUSH_PROMISE for different messages) but accommodating both might get wordy.

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I don't object to using preamble or preface.

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The term is protection in most cases.

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@mirjak, this simplification is intentio= nal. Taking another bit is surprisingly expensive. We're already down to = a mere 16 values in a range before expanding the size of acknowledgments. = While 16 is enough that you can avoid expanding ACK sizes, 8 is poor.

Those testing can negotiate use of ECT(1), or negotiate the use of suppl= ementary signals. For instance, if you want to mark occasional packets wit= h ECT(1), then do that and read "unmarked" as ECT(1). If you want to ensur= e that you don't overcount that as a result of bleaching, then negotiate th= e use of a supplementary mechanism.

I liked @mikkelfj's suggestion here abou= t negotiated default marking.

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A Retry packet (shown in {{retry-format}}) only uses the invariant portion of the long packet header {{QUIC-INVARIANTS}}; that is, the fields up to and -including the Destination and Source Connection ID fields. The contents of the -Retry packet are not protected. Like Version Negotiation, a Retry packet +including the Destination and Source Connection ID fields. The Payload of a I realized that we say that it has a Payload here, then say that it doesn't in the next sentence, so I changed this more. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1703#discussion_r213151913 ----==_mimepart_5b8492b3978fd_221b3fa1ac0be61c348750 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -566,8 +566,8 @@ wishes to perform a stateless retry (see {{stateless-retry}}).
 
 A Retry packet (shown in {{retry-format}}) only uses the invariant portion of
 the long packet header {{QUIC-INVARIANTS}}; that is, the fields up to and
-including the Destination and Source Connection ID fields.  The contents of the
-Retry packet are not protected.  Like Version Negotiation, a Retry packet
+including the Destination and Source Connection ID fields.  The Payload of a

I realized that we say that it has a Payload here, then say that it doesn't in the next sentence, so I changed this more.

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson approved this pull request. > @@ -586,8 +586,8 @@ A push stream is indicated by a stream type of `0x50` (ASCII 'P'), followed by the Push ID of the promise that it fulfills, encoded as a variable-length integer. The remaining data on this stream consists of HTTP/QUIC frames, as defined in {{frames}}, and carries the response side of an HTTP message -exchange as described in {{request-response}}. The request headers of the -exchange are carried by a PUSH_PROMISE frame (see {{frame-push-promise}}) +exchange as described in {{request-response}}. The request header of the "the header of the request message is carried" perhaps > @@ -983,7 +983,7 @@ Push ID: ({{frame-cancel-push}}), and PRIORITY frames ({{frame-priority}}). Header Block: -: QPACK-compressed request headers for the promised response. See [QPACK] for +: QPACK-compressed request header for the promised response. See [QPACK] for I think that we can say header fields here. QPACK doesn't compress the header, it only compresses a list of header fields. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@martinthomson approved this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -586,8 +586,8 @@ A push stream is indicated by a stream type of `0x50` (ASCII 'P'), followed by
 the Push ID of the promise that it fulfills, encoded as a variable-length
 integer. The remaining data on this stream consists of HTTP/QUIC frames, as
 defined in {{frames}}, and carries the response side of an HTTP message
-exchange as described in {{request-response}}. The request headers of the
-exchange are carried by a PUSH_PROMISE frame (see {{frame-push-promise}})
+exchange as described in {{request-response}}. The request header of the

"the header of the request message is carried" perhaps

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -983,7 +983,7 @@ Push ID:
   ({{frame-cancel-push}}), and PRIORITY frames ({{frame-priority}}).
 
 Header Block:
-: QPACK-compressed request headers for the promised response.  See [QPACK] for
+: QPACK-compressed request header for the promised response.  See [QPACK] for

I think that we can say header fields here. QPACK doesn't compress the header, it only compresses a list of header fields.

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The only signal we can rely on is size. Closes #1666. Commit: 988543823a57b66f8cb28e28198425bdb7bbad62 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/988543823a57b66f8cb28e28198425bdb7bbad62 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-08-28 (Tue, 28 Aug 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Editorial tweaks Commit: f153e2ec9bd3313aa5cefa30d748fe249ba5b38a https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f153e2ec9bd3313aa5cefa30d748fe249ba5b38a Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-08-28 (Tue, 28 Aug 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1705 from quicwg/initial-vs-first Cleanup Initial packet use Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/d83612542cbd...f153e2ec9bd3 **NOTE:** This service has been marked for deprecation: https://developer.github.com/changes/2018-04-25-github-services-deprecation/ Functionality will be removed from GitHub.com on January 31st, 2019. ----==_mimepart_5b84d9e4209dc_55142b1727c2aed4139db-- From nobody Mon Aug 27 22:13:21 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34482130EE9 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2018 22:13:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.008 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.008 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NvmP6DPZcAS1 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2018 22:13:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D044B130E44 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2018 22:13:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2018 22:13:11 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1535433191; bh=ls6KEAHZbLcISmSTSsx/aOLZG38MZTR74gcaeYRzBfE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=GR/4wudpEcjfxt41SN3z8c8nNjnLTdIAfqoqPQkdjXkS3TBjiqn7YjTfEQpK7hce4 zbW87LPlFqSd3yMqvgSgRY18ZD82fhUCwLCE8sOvZgBHsjrKC97glZL8/fuuv4ydtt 3PprfNXOypX4L4d+gHCvvKzjUrI7eUD6194k8sIs= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Initial packets are version-specific (#1666) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b84d9e720769_38ee3fb0cb2d45b8237115"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2018 05:13:14 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b84d9e720769_38ee3fb0cb2d45b8237115 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Closed #1666 via #1705. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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So they aren't really safe for much. Describe the limitations and advise a very narrow usage. I really hope that this choice doesn't bite us later. It doesn't feel that good, but I don't know how to fix this without going back to just one Retry (and even then a solution would be ugly). Closes #1647. Commit: c86245ca9c3483d9228146510bea50a84fefb653 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c86245ca9c3483d9228146510bea50a84fefb653 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-08-28 (Tue, 28 Aug 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- unsplit crypto graphic Commit: 259c3ef07da71b43a97886cc1cf0f548c31c3f16 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/259c3ef07da71b43a97886cc1cf0f548c31c3f16 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-08-28 (Tue, 28 Aug 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1704 from quicwg/token-porpoise Tokens are a mess Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/a1264b2274cd...259c3ef07da7 **NOTE:** This service has been marked for deprecation: https://developer.github.com/changes/2018-04-25-github-services-deprecation/ Functionality will be removed from GitHub.com on January 31st, 2019. ----==_mimepart_5b84da14db783_32b12af4c646cec8714e5-- From nobody Mon Aug 27 22:14:13 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A953130E4A for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2018 22:14:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.008 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.008 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9SI3xdadqWpS for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2018 22:13:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A727A130E44 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2018 22:13:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2018 22:13:59 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1535433239; bh=tCtIRqZmHIR77vq6g5SUvlyfiq6aHlESS6SqxnCWBG0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=W3E3PXN76IS1dt90RPZIZCBUnJNmcZtnvPxLVhU4vFSd20ipRBBnoXht0U/WioTcp 5NKc+6vVPDSmqtDgR/FBiQ4JdlHmdafxOQJ3Ui464u2NFeUFOZpZirQFPGWmW4Tt0S X42SXxlwm9Ucpgss+pWBdJU68a62hEk2NGrXWhAs= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] The server shouldn't use a token for much (#1647) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b84da1790a2_72883f8c676be620131431"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2018 05:14:01 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b84da1790a2_72883f8c676be620131431 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Closed #1647 via #1704. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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As others have observed, this might not be so easy to get right.

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The multiple steps involved in Retry are fragile (see #1709), and they are not authenticated. That is a source of some concern. As has been observed, an on-the-side attacker gets one shot at rewriting the connection ID as a result of this. We decided that this isn't a big deal, but the interaction between an attacker-chosen connection ID with packet number encryption is a minor concern. Maybe it's time to just button this all down fully.

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As we agreed, payload is the bytes that we protect, content is the more abstract notion of what needs to be communicated (for which we use frames). That was already mostly right, apart from a few places. Closes #1676. Commit: f78d9f820e53eae053a0bb3a4fe906c0eba6e0a1 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f78d9f820e53eae053a0bb3a4fe906c0eba6e0a1 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-08-28 (Tue, 28 Aug 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Fixups Commit: a1264b2274cd9ede0651d3128d245a3d153392df https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a1264b2274cd9ede0651d3128d245a3d153392df Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2018-08-28 (Tue, 28 Aug 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #1703 from quicwg/payload-content Reconcile 'content' and 'payload' Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/f153e2ec9bd3...a1264b2274cd **NOTE:** This service has been marked for deprecation: https://developer.github.com/changes/2018-04-25-github-services-deprecation/ Functionality will be removed from GitHub.com on January 31st, 2019. ----==_mimepart_5b84d9f69ab9f_29032aaf4642aed0749ba-- From nobody Mon Aug 27 22:36:11 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27548128CF3 for ; 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This makes this a little clearer. 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This hopefully makes the rules a little clearer. I also took the opportunity to take the style of changes from #1708 to the TLS doc. Closes #1568. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1711 -- Commit Summary -- * Improve description of key derivation -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md (60) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1711.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1711.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1711 ----==_mimepart_5b84e554541c_64fe3fd532cd45b426184 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

There have been questions about which variant of HKDF-Expand-Label to
use where. This hopefully makes the rules a little clearer.

I also took the opportunity to take the style of changes from #1708 to the TLS doc.

Closes #1568.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1711

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Looking good, I think you missed a few spots to update in recovery. > ~~~ - ProcessECN(ack): - // If the ECN-CE counter reported by the peer has increased, - // this could be a new congestion event. - if (ack.ce_counter > ecn_ce_counter): - ecn_ce_counter = ack.ce_counter - // Start a new congestion event if the last acknowledged - // packet is past the end of the previous recovery epoch. + ProcessECN(packet): This is now simple enough it might be easier to inline it? > ~~~ - ProcessECN(ack): - // If the ECN-CE counter reported by the peer has increased, - // this could be a new congestion event. - if (ack.ce_counter > ecn_ce_counter): - ecn_ce_counter = ack.ce_counter - // Start a new congestion event if the last acknowledged - // packet is past the end of the previous recovery epoch. + ProcessECN(packet): This is now simple enough I believe it'd be easier to read inlined and call CongestionEvent() in OnPacketAcked. > ~~~ - ProcessECN(ack): - // If the ECN-CE counter reported by the peer has increased, - // this could be a new congestion event. - if (ack.ce_counter > ecn_ce_counter): - ecn_ce_counter = ack.ce_counter - // Start a new congestion event if the last acknowledged - // packet is past the end of the previous recovery epoch. + ProcessECN(packet): Also, please update the Recovery Period section from "Recovery is a period of time beginning with detection of a lost packet or an increase in the ECN-CE counter." to "Recovery is a period of time beginning with detection of a lost packet or receipt of an ECN-CE marked packet." Or something similar > ~~~ - ProcessECN(ack): - // If the ECN-CE counter reported by the peer has increased, - // this could be a new congestion event. - if (ack.ce_counter > ecn_ce_counter): - ecn_ce_counter = ack.ce_counter - // Start a new congestion event if the last acknowledged - // packet is past the end of the previous recovery epoch. + ProcessECN(packet): And at the end of that paragraph "new losses or increases in the ECN-CE counter." -> " new losses or ECN-CE marks." > -The ACK Block Section consists of alternating Gap and ACK Block fields in -descending packet number order. A First Ack Block field is followed by a -variable number of alternating Gap and Additional ACK Blocks. The number of Gap -and Additional ACK Block fields is determined by the ACK Block Count field. +Each ACK Block in an ACK frame describes a contiguous range of packets, as well +as the observed type of the packets in that range. Each range of packets is I think of packet types as Initial/Retry/etc. How about ack state? Or something else that doesn't collide with the existing packet type? Also, "Each range of packets is attributed a type," overlaps with the first sentence. How about "Each packet range's type is encoded into the two least..." -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1706#pullrequestreview-150106809 ----==_mimepart_5b854f724caa7_5bb23f7ed4cd45b425531 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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Looking good, I think you missed a few spots to update in recovery.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  
 ~~~
-   ProcessECN(ack):
-     // If the ECN-CE counter reported by the peer has increased,
-     // this could be a new congestion event.
-     if (ack.ce_counter > ecn_ce_counter):
-       ecn_ce_counter = ack.ce_counter
-       // Start a new congestion event if the last acknowledged
-       // packet is past the end of the previous recovery epoch.
+   ProcessECN(packet):

This is now simple enough it might be easier to inline it?

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  
 ~~~
-   ProcessECN(ack):
-     // If the ECN-CE counter reported by the peer has increased,
-     // this could be a new congestion event.
-     if (ack.ce_counter > ecn_ce_counter):
-       ecn_ce_counter = ack.ce_counter
-       // Start a new congestion event if the last acknowledged
-       // packet is past the end of the previous recovery epoch.
+   ProcessECN(packet):

This is now simple enough I believe it'd be easier to read inlined and call CongestionEvent() in OnPacketAcked.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  
 ~~~
-   ProcessECN(ack):
-     // If the ECN-CE counter reported by the peer has increased,
-     // this could be a new congestion event.
-     if (ack.ce_counter > ecn_ce_counter):
-       ecn_ce_counter = ack.ce_counter
-       // Start a new congestion event if the last acknowledged
-       // packet is past the end of the previous recovery epoch.
+   ProcessECN(packet):

Also, please update the Recovery Period section from "Recovery is a period of time beginning with detection of a lost packet or an increase in the ECN-CE counter." to "Recovery is a period of time beginning with detection of a lost packet or receipt of an ECN-CE marked packet." Or something similar

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  
 ~~~
-   ProcessECN(ack):
-     // If the ECN-CE counter reported by the peer has increased,
-     // this could be a new congestion event.
-     if (ack.ce_counter > ecn_ce_counter):
-       ecn_ce_counter = ack.ce_counter
-       // Start a new congestion event if the last acknowledged
-       // packet is past the end of the previous recovery epoch.
+   ProcessECN(packet):

And at the end of that paragraph "new losses or increases in the ECN-CE counter." -> " new losses or ECN-CE marks."

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-The ACK Block Section consists of alternating Gap and ACK Block fields in
-descending packet number order.  A First Ack Block field is followed by a
-variable number of alternating Gap and Additional ACK Blocks.  The number of Gap
-and Additional ACK Block fields is determined by the ACK Block Count field.
+Each ACK Block in an ACK frame describes a contiguous range of packets, as well
+as the observed type of the packets in that range.  Each range of packets is

I think of packet types as Initial/Retry/etc. How about ack state? Or something else that doesn't collide with the existing packet type?

Also, "Each range of packets is attributed a type," overlaps with the first sentence. How about "Each packet range's type is encoded into the two least..."

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My primary goal with first suggesting the general design we have today= with Retry was to support an independent DoS mitigation= device to be put in path in front of the server. This is a requirement w= e get from Azure. If any changes to the Retry design require some state t= o be shared between the mitigation device (we own) and the backend QUIC s= erver (we don't own), that will severely hamper the Azure efforts. It wou= ld require some deployment story and would make things a lot more complex= for users and would likely go unused then.

You state above that unauthenticated Retry packets are a source of som= e concern, show that the initial CID can be modified and then go on to sa= y it isn't a big deal (which I agree with). I'm still not really sure wha= t folks are worried about this this supposed attack vector. Initial CID a= nd Initial packet encryption are essentially just used for version ossifi= cation prevention. If the attacker understands the version, it's essentia= lly cleartext.

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So we don't we add a nonce in the initial packet and pass it along through relevant stages of the handshake and validate it before commiting to a handshake? The nonce replaces the initial connection ID which doesn't really make any sense anyway.

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My primary goal with first suggesting the general design we have today= with Retry was to support an independent DoS mitigation device to be put= in path in front of the server.

An "independent DoS mitigation device" is fundamental= ly indistinguishable from a middlebox. In all other parts of the protocol= we're very careful to design things such that middleboxes can't interfer= e with the protocol, while at the same time inviting them to do exactly t= his when it comes to Retries.

I'm still not convinced that this is a reasonable deployment for QUIC.= QUIC Initials and TCP SYNs are not really comparable, since we have the = 1200 byte requirement for QUIC packets, which will make SYN flood-like at= tacks orders of magnitude more expensive.

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These PUSH_PROMISE frames are not part of the response, but carry the -headers of a separate HTTP request message. See {{server-push}} for more +headers of separate HTTP request messages. See {{server-push}} for more In context, I don't think it says anything about PUSH_PROMISE frames that are sent multiple times on different streams. It's talking about a single response, and says that the PUSH_PROMISE frames carry headers of separate requests being pushed. If the same PUSH_PROMISE shows up during another response, that's mostly independent. Can you suggest wording you think would be clearer? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1707#discussion_r213393489 ----==_mimepart_5b857ebbc1bb8_2a993f9e556d45c4781a3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -297,7 +297,7 @@ of informational (1xx) HTTP responses (see {{!RFC7230}}, Section 3.2 and
 PUSH_PROMISE frames (see {{frame-push-promise}}) MAY be interleaved with the
 frames of a response message indicating a pushed resource related to the
 response. These PUSH_PROMISE frames are not part of the response, but carry the
-headers of a separate HTTP request message.  See {{server-push}} for more
+headers of separate HTTP request messages.  See {{server-push}} for more

In context, I don't think it says anything about PUSH_PROMISE frames that are sent multiple times on different streams. It's talking about a single response, and says that the PUSH_PROMISE frames carry headers of separate requests being pushed. If the same PUSH_PROMISE shows up during another response, that's mostly independent.

Can you suggest wording you think would be clearer?

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Header Block: -: QPACK-compressed request headers for the promised response. See [QPACK] for +: QPACK-compressed request header for the promised response. See [QPACK] for I'd call semantics on the distinction, since the list of header fields is the header, but I think it reads better your way. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1707#discussion_r213394232 ----==_mimepart_5b857f3af3d66_45693f9dd14d45b414911 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -983,7 +983,7 @@ Push ID:
   ({{frame-cancel-push}}), and PRIORITY frames ({{frame-priority}}).
 
 Header Block:
-: QPACK-compressed request headers for the promised response.  See [QPACK] for
+: QPACK-compressed request header for the promised response.  See [QPACK] for

I'd call semantics on the distinction, since the list of header fields is the header, but I think it reads better your way.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-Conceptually, a packet number space is the encryption context in which
-a packet can be processed and ACKed.  Initial packets can only be sent
-with Initial encryption keys and ACKed in packets which are also
-Initial packets.  Similarly, Handshake packets can only be sent and
-acknowledged in Handshake packets.
+Conceptually, a packet number space is the context in which a packet can be
+processed and ACKed.  Initial packets can only be sent with Initial encryption

Should this also be protection?

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@MikeBishop commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-Conceptually, a packet number space is the encryption context in which
-a packet can be processed and ACKed.  Initial packets can only be sent
-with Initial encryption keys and ACKed in packets which are also
-Initial packets.  Similarly, Handshake packets can only be sent and
-acknowledged in Handshake packets.
+Conceptually, a packet number space is the context in which a packet can be
+processed and ACKed.  Initial packets can only be sent with Initial encryption
+keys and ACKed in packets which are also Initial packets.  Similarly, Handshake
+packets can only be sent and acknowledged in Handshake packets.

"Handshake packets can only be sent in Handshake packets" is either tautological or incorrect, and I'm uncertain which. Either way, I don't think this says what you mean to say.

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"[A]ll other parts of the protocol" is after the handshake. We've ack= nowledged from the beginning that a middlebox can meddle in the handshake= ; in a few cases, we've taken steps to detect such meddling and abort the= connection, but that's not the norm.

I certainly wouldn't object to adding a mechanism that allows the serv= er to detect such a middlebox and kill the connection if it's unexpected.= While I agree that being able to do this without close coordination (sh= ared keys, for example) is valuable, I don't think it's an unreasonable l= evel of coordination to say "I expect such a box" / "I don't expect such = a box".

Even a transport parameter that indicates how many Retry packets have = been seen prior to the one it's responding to would suffice. However, th= at does require the client to (partially or fully) regenerate the ClientH= ello.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -297,7 +297,7 @@ of informational (1xx) HTTP responses (see {{!RFC7230}}, Section 3.2 and
 PUSH_PROMISE frames (see {{frame-push-promise}}) MAY be interleaved with the
 frames of a response message indicating a pushed resource related to the
 response. These PUSH_PROMISE frames are not part of the response, but carry the
-headers of a separate HTTP request message.  See {{server-push}} for more
+headers of separate HTTP request messages.  See {{server-push}} for more

My original point is that you could send several PUSH_PROMISE frames, for the same promised resource with the same PUSH_ID, on a single request stream.

Something simpler could be to take away all mention of PUSH_PROMISE headers in th:

A server MAY chose to interleave one or more PUSH_PROMISE frames (see {{frame-push-promise}}) with the response message. However, these are not part of the response. Server push is described further in {{server-push}}.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -297,7 +297,7 @@ of informational (1xx) HTTP responses (see {{!RFC7230}}, Section 3.2 and
 PUSH_PROMISE frames (see {{frame-push-promise}}) MAY be interleaved with the
 frames of a response message indicating a pushed resource related to the
 response. These PUSH_PROMISE frames are not part of the response, but carry the
-headers of a separate HTTP request message.  See {{server-push}} for more
+headers of separate HTTP request messages.  See {{server-push}} for more

Works for me. (But why would you send several PUSH_PROMISEs for the same resource on the same request stream?)

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These PUSH_PROMISE frames are not part of the response, but carry the -headers of a separate HTTP request message. See {{server-push}} for more +headers of separate HTTP request messages. See {{server-push}} for more I couldn't slip that passed you, could I? :) I wouldn't expect conventional HTTP/QUIC servers to do this. However, the existing specification allows for this and I would hope that implementations can implement the required mechanics. As for a reason, in the absence of a true QUIC transport-level FEC, we could imagine an application-level FEC that repeats important (and relatively cheap) metadata. Its true that today streams are reliable but some form of unreliable streams may benefit from a smarter repetition strategy. Independent PUSH_PROMISE frames may duplicate the same data. Request and response header messages could be FEC'd by purposefully sending duplicate STREAM frames (same offset and content) containing such metadata. 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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -297,7 +297,7 @@ of informational (1xx) HTTP responses (see {{!RFC7230}}, Section 3.2 and
 PUSH_PROMISE frames (see {{frame-push-promise}}) MAY be interleaved with the
 frames of a response message indicating a pushed resource related to the
 response. These PUSH_PROMISE frames are not part of the response, but carry the
-headers of a separate HTTP request message.  See {{server-push}} for more
+headers of separate HTTP request messages.  See {{server-push}} for more

I couldn't slip that passed you, could I? :)

I wouldn't expect conventional HTTP/QUIC servers to do this. However, the existing specification allows for this and I would hope that implementations can implement the required mechanics.

As for a reason, in the absence of a true QUIC transport-level FEC, we could imagine an application-level FEC that repeats important (and relatively cheap) metadata. Its true that today streams are reliable but some form of unreliable streams may benefit from a smarter repetition strategy.

Independent PUSH_PROMISE frames may duplicate the same data. Request and response header messages could be FEC'd by purposefully sending duplicate STREAM frames (same offset and content) containing such metadata.

Both forms of repetition could work together.

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OBE; #1643 addresses this.

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----==_mimepart_5b8592ba1fb98_4af23fc8990d45c0102337-- From nobody Tue Aug 28 11:32:29 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 616FB130E15 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2018 11:32:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ARIpsxcrOea3 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2018 11:32:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o4.sgmail.github.com (o4.sgmail.github.com [192.254.112.99]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE7CE127148 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2018 11:32:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=9WsomlvOtNadjwja50s9sUEprvE=; b=vefZkgSchLEEObOm EZxPSXSeRuUSqhXC3yTC5To1Bjl3FoJsktp+nS+AFlUp89zViDTw/01yirP0EP15 yZYOtAPoeJwzQ1P5cxoCqv23vhnHQR0MWPb7SyUSeV3lXJNcuarCiAxtQPnJz/0k gq5j5NENGov0jLpwYnzQKFjq/V0= Received: by filter0954p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0954p1las1-7988-5B859538-2B 2018-08-28 18:32:24.812752398 +0000 UTC m=+936114.424749738 Received: from github-lowworker18-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (unknown [192.30.252.42]) by ismtpd0010p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id TW9HnVjERMuLX_IM8wcQ9g for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2018 18:32:24.738 +0000 (UTC) Received: from github.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by github-lowworker18-cp1-prd.iad.github.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE92E21D7B for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2018 11:32:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2018 18:32:25 +0000 (UTC) From: hardie Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Authenticate Retry (#1710) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b859538ab423_5be43febcc4be61c158237"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: hardie X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak3/0s+4pVSoLSCE6yO5Anrb+mbid9YfNnl4qN y02qe3pS20pCvUgJc/RAuEln+fOqray3uV3BJtVC0CD0EuYUWGXq8Kt/Egp58GwshuactkzXapRE24 0Sz6F/kEFURXeAR3fDDDNX6XQpMeoxSVNdbYc24ciHIipwoCl2d1GvlWuw== Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2018 18:32:27 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b859538ab423_5be43febcc4be61c158237 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If a server varies the opaque Retry token for each attempt at a retry, it can already detect which ones of the tokens caused the response and count the number generated. That also allows it know if there is a gap, without a new transport parameter. If that's the expected behavior, a client seeing a replayed Retry token would close the connection and a server seeing a token it did not generate would close the connection. Presuming that the token is passed with integrity protection at some point, is that enough? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1710#issuecomment-416693688 ----==_mimepart_5b859538ab423_5be43febcc4be61c158237 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

If a server varies the opaque Retry token for each attempt at a retry, i= t can already detect which ones of the tokens caused the response and count= the number generated. That also allows it know if there is a gap, without= a new transport parameter. If that's the expected behavior, a client seei= ng a replayed Retry token would close the connection and a server seeing a = token it did not generate would close the connection.

Presuming that the token is passed with integrity protection at some poi= nt, is that enough?

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Fixes #1599. Note that the MAX_PUSH_ID section is a red herring -- I moved so much text from the GOAWAY frame definition to this new section that GH thinks I moved the text in between instead.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1712

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  • Connection closure section
  • Re-add GOAWAY text

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -297,7 +297,7 @@ of informational (1xx) HTTP responses (see {{!RFC7230}}, Section 3.2 and
 PUSH_PROMISE frames (see {{frame-push-promise}}) MAY be interleaved with the
 frames of a response message indicating a pushed resource related to the
 response. These PUSH_PROMISE frames are not part of the response, but carry the
-headers of a separate HTTP request message.  See {{server-push}} for more
+headers of separate HTTP request messages.  See {{server-push}} for more

Duplicate STREAM frames would work. Duplicating PUSH_PROMISE frames would be challenging, because there's no way to identify:

  • where subsequent frames start if the length of the previous frame is missing
  • that the missing data is duplicated and therefore unneeded.

You'd need a lot more machinery than this. But sure, I don't see a strong reason to prohibit it here.

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This suggestests that packets with ACK and padding should be ACK'ed immediately.

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Gah, forgot about padding. I'll send out a PR.

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This makes this a little clearer. Closes #1568. 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Neither ACK nor PADDING frames cause an ACK to be sent.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1713

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  • ACK and PADDING

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----==_mimepart_5b85cfcde569a_1913f82cced45c0198067-- From nobody Tue Aug 28 15:46:21 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2F0D130E0C for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2018 15:46:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NV8qASdxhzWk for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2018 15:46:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 83DB1130DDA for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2018 15:46:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2018 15:46:16 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1535496376; bh=5nBI0mRtQJJ4+fZmnODu1y+KixOD6anhWOypOUZl2Ek=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=avXKRDfaiVk/YJ54mw2zaZfPSJniWznXDGy6Gz/UHXPTplQdA+jUGoYQo07WYIakO BVgNVrnlgo7r5Y8ZWlm7wXkSsJAyB4dVClADDvrxeNB5qDH15BLQbJA/iMoUhmmX57 X6zB/BNyVMxNDAv+N7QmfzsPVrVDtAd0r779R3IM= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Discuss HTTP/QUIC Connection Closure (#1712) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b85d0b8af049_4643fdf1ced45b47566"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2018 22:46:20 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b85d0b8af049_4643fdf1ced45b47566 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson commented on this pull request. The restructuring was a little distracting, but this looks like a good change overall. I have a few suggestions. I didn't scrub carefully for grammar, but you are better at that than I anyway :) > +do so if approaching the idle timeout. + +HTTP clients are expected to use QUIC PING frames to keep connections open while +there are responses outstanding for requests or server pushes. If the client is +not expecting a response from the server, allowing an idle connection to time +out is preferred over expending effort maintaining a connection that might not +be needed. A gateway MAY use PING to maintain connections in anticipation of +need rather than incur the latency cost of connection establishment to servers. +Servers SHOULD NOT use PING frames to keep a connection open. + +## Connection Shutdown + +Even when a connection is not idle, either endpoint can decide to stop using the +connection. Clients do this by not sending additional requests on the +connection; responses and pushed responses associated to previous requests will +continue to completion. This introduction doesn't mention that the intent is to be "graceful" or to close the connection without losing requests. That's important, because it is also possible to just slam the connection closed. > @@ -1102,69 +1167,33 @@ allowing time for any in-flight requests (at least one round-trip time), the server MAY send another GOAWAY frame with an updated last Stream ID. This ensures that a connection can be cleanly shut down without losing requests. -Once all requests on streams at or below the identified stream number have been -completed or cancelled, and all promised server push responses associated with -those requests have been completed or cancelled, the connection can be closed -using an Immediate Close (see {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}). An endpoint that completes a -graceful shutdown SHOULD use the QUIC APPLICATION_CLOSE frame with the -HTTP_NO_ERROR code. +Once all accepted requests have been processed, the server MAY permit the I think s/MAY/can here. The normative language elsewhere covers this. > +## Explicit Application Closure Explicit or immediate? Better to use the same terminology as the transport doc, methinks. Explicit, taken to mean "direct", might be right, but it seems a little off. > -# Connection Management +Before closing the connection, a GOAWAY MAY be sent to allow the client to retry +requests. Including the GOAWAY frame in the same packet as the QUIC "retry some requests" - the implication here is that GOAWAY is sent immediately before, which would limit its usefulness. > +If a connection terminates without a GOAWAY frame, clients MUST assume +that any request which was sent might have been processed. Maybe mention "in whole or part" when it comes to requests, even a partially sent request can be processed. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1712#pullrequestreview-150344894 ----==_mimepart_5b85d0b8af049_4643fdf1ced45b47566 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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The restructuring was a little distracting, but this looks like a good change overall. I have a few suggestions. I didn't scrub carefully for grammar, but you are better at that than I anyway :)

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> +do so if approaching the idle timeout.
+
+HTTP clients are expected to use QUIC PING frames to keep connections open while
+there are responses outstanding for requests or server pushes. If the client is
+not expecting a response from the server, allowing an idle connection to time
+out is preferred over expending effort maintaining a connection that might not
+be needed.  A gateway MAY use PING to maintain connections in anticipation of
+need rather than incur the latency cost of connection establishment to servers.
+Servers SHOULD NOT use PING frames to keep a connection open.
+
+## Connection Shutdown
+
+Even when a connection is not idle, either endpoint can decide to stop using the
+connection.  Clients do this by not sending additional requests on the
+connection; responses and pushed responses associated to previous requests will
+continue to completion.

This introduction doesn't mention that the intent is to be "graceful" or to close the connection without losing requests. That's important, because it is also possible to just slam the connection closed.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1102,69 +1167,33 @@ allowing time for any in-flight requests (at least one round-trip time), the
 server MAY send another GOAWAY frame with an updated last Stream ID.  This
 ensures that a connection can be cleanly shut down without losing requests.
 
-Once all requests on streams at or below the identified stream number have been
-completed or cancelled, and all promised server push responses associated with
-those requests have been completed or cancelled, the connection can be closed
-using an Immediate Close (see {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}).  An endpoint that completes a
-graceful shutdown SHOULD use the QUIC APPLICATION_CLOSE frame with the
-HTTP_NO_ERROR code.
+Once all accepted requests have been processed, the server MAY permit the

I think s/MAY/can here. The normative language elsewhere covers this.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

>  
+## Explicit Application Closure

Explicit or immediate? Better to use the same terminology as the transport doc, methinks. Explicit, taken to mean "direct", might be right, but it seems a little off.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

>  
-# Connection Management
+Before closing the connection, a GOAWAY MAY be sent to allow the client to retry
+requests.  Including the GOAWAY frame in the same packet as the QUIC

"retry some requests" - the implication here is that GOAWAY is sent immediately before, which would limit its usefulness.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

>  
+If a connection terminates without a GOAWAY frame, clients MUST assume
+that any request which was sent might have been processed.

Maybe mention "in whole or part" when it comes to requests, even a partially sent request can be processed.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -294,11 +294,10 @@ response may contain zero or more header blocks containing the message headers
 of informational (1xx) HTTP responses (see {{!RFC7230}}, Section 3.2 and
 {{!RFC7231}}, Section 6.2).
 
-PUSH_PROMISE frames (see {{frame-push-promise}}) MAY be interleaved with the
-frames of a response message indicating a pushed resource related to the
-response. These PUSH_PROMISE frames are not part of the response, but carry the
-headers of separate HTTP request messages.  See {{server-push}} for more
-details.
+A server MAY interleave one or more PUSH_PROMISE frames (see
+{{frame-push-promise}}) with the frames of a response message indicating a
+pushed resource related to the response. These PUSH_PROMISE frames are not part

"pushed resource" isn't quite right, we push responses. You could probably drop from "indicating" onwards and retain the meaning.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3418,14 +3418,15 @@ ACK Block (repeated):
 ### Sending ACK Frames
 
 Implementations MUST NOT generate packets that only contain ACK frames in
-response to packets which only contain ACK frames. However, they MUST
-acknowledge packets containing only ACK frames when sending ACK frames in
-response to other packets.  Implementations MUST NOT send more than one packet
-containing only an ACK frame per received packet that contains frames other than
-an ACK frame.  Packets containing non-ACK frames MUST be acknowledged
-immediately or when a delayed ack timer expires. The delayed ack timer MUST
-NOT delay an ACK for longer than an RTT, which ensures an ACK frame is sent
-at least once per RTT if new packets needing acknowledgement were received.
+response to packets which only contain ACK and PADDING frames. However, they
+MUST acknowledge packets containing only ACK and PADDING frames when sending
+ACK frames in response to other packets.  Implementations MUST NOT send more
+than one packet containing only an ACK frame per received packet that contains

"containing only ACK or PADDING frames" ?

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ianswett commented on this pull request. > @@ -3418,14 +3418,15 @@ ACK Block (repeated): ### Sending ACK Frames Implementations MUST NOT generate packets that only contain ACK frames in -response to packets which only contain ACK frames. However, they MUST -acknowledge packets containing only ACK frames when sending ACK frames in -response to other packets. Implementations MUST NOT send more than one packet -containing only an ACK frame per received packet that contains frames other than -an ACK frame. Packets containing non-ACK frames MUST be acknowledged -immediately or when a delayed ack timer expires. The delayed ack timer MUST -NOT delay an ACK for longer than an RTT, which ensures an ACK frame is sent -at least once per RTT if new packets needing acknowledgement were received. +response to packets which only contain ACK and PADDING frames. However, they +MUST acknowledge packets containing only ACK and PADDING frames when sending +ACK frames in response to other packets. Implementations MUST NOT send more +than one packet containing only an ACK frame per received packet that contains To clarify, are you saying I should replace "ACK and PADDING" with "ACK or PADDING" everywhere or another suggestion? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1713#discussion_r213502265 ----==_mimepart_5b85d816cc1d3_5c803fafa7ed45b893729 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3418,14 +3418,15 @@ ACK Block (repeated):
 ### Sending ACK Frames
 
 Implementations MUST NOT generate packets that only contain ACK frames in
-response to packets which only contain ACK frames. However, they MUST
-acknowledge packets containing only ACK frames when sending ACK frames in
-response to other packets.  Implementations MUST NOT send more than one packet
-containing only an ACK frame per received packet that contains frames other than
-an ACK frame.  Packets containing non-ACK frames MUST be acknowledged
-immediately or when a delayed ack timer expires. The delayed ack timer MUST
-NOT delay an ACK for longer than an RTT, which ensures an ACK frame is sent
-at least once per RTT if new packets needing acknowledgement were received.
+response to packets which only contain ACK and PADDING frames. However, they
+MUST acknowledge packets containing only ACK and PADDING frames when sending
+ACK frames in response to other packets.  Implementations MUST NOT send more
+than one packet containing only an ACK frame per received packet that contains

To clarify, are you saying I should replace "ACK and PADDING" with "ACK or PADDING" everywhere or another suggestion?

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> +any eviction-prone entries, which are dynamic table entries that might be
+evicted soon.  Rather than reference an eviction-prone entry, the encoder SHOULD
+emit an Indexed-Duplicate representation (see {{indexed-duplicate}}), and
+reference the duplicate instead.
+
+To identify eviction-prone entries, the encoder can maintain a draining index,
+which is the smallest absolute index in the dynamic table that it will emit a
+reference for.  As new entries are inserted, the encoder increments the
+draining index such that the amount of free and draining space in the dyanmic
+table is larger than its target threshold.
+
+~~~~~~~~~~  drawing
+   +----------------+-----------------------+------------+
+   | Eviction-prone |     Referenceable     | Free Space |
+   |    Entries     |        Entries        |            |
+   +----------------+-----------------------+------------+

I'm not sure I agree that the draining index always needs to be in the acknowledged range. Consider the case where I insert a full table's worth of headers and none have yet been acknowledged. An encoder will still want to stop referencing the oldest ones so they can be evicted soon, even if it causes duplication. For the purposes of this section, I'm not sure I want to add the 'acknowledged index' to the picture.

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  • 8ff41ed Refactor recovery draft to remove ProcessECN
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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3418,14 +3418,15 @@ ACK Block (repeated):
 ### Sending ACK Frames
 
 Implementations MUST NOT generate packets that only contain ACK frames in
-response to packets which only contain ACK frames. However, they MUST
-acknowledge packets containing only ACK frames when sending ACK frames in
-response to other packets.  Implementations MUST NOT send more than one packet
-containing only an ACK frame per received packet that contains frames other than
-an ACK frame.  Packets containing non-ACK frames MUST be acknowledged
-immediately or when a delayed ack timer expires. The delayed ack timer MUST
-NOT delay an ACK for longer than an RTT, which ensures an ACK frame is sent
-at least once per RTT if new packets needing acknowledgement were received.
+response to packets which only contain ACK and PADDING frames. However, they
+MUST acknowledge packets containing only ACK and PADDING frames when sending
+ACK frames in response to other packets.  Implementations MUST NOT send more
+than one packet containing only an ACK frame per received packet that contains

Just the one instance here that you only have "ACK".

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@lnicco commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> +the error code HTTP_REQUEST_CANCELLED.  Servers MAY also cancel requests on
+streams below the indicated ID if these requests were not processed.
+
+Requests on Stream IDs less than or equal to the Stream ID in the GOAWAY frame
+might have been processed; their status cannot be known until they are completed
+successfully, reset individually, or the connection terminates.
+
+Servers SHOULD send a GOAWAY frame when the closing of a connection is known
+in advance, even if the advance notice is small, so that the remote peer can
+know whether a stream has been partially processed or not.  For example, if an
+HTTP client sends a POST at the same time that a server closes a QUIC
+connection, the client cannot know if the server started to process that POST
+request if the server does not send a GOAWAY frame to indicate what streams it
+might have acted on.
+
+An endpoint MAY send multiple GOAWAY frames if circumstances change. For

I know this commit is just moving text around, but I wanted to note how the beginning of this paragraph seems to be for the most part the same as in HTTP2 and does not take into consideration that in HQ there is no error code in the GOAWAY frame. So perhaps the "sends GOAWAY without an error code" can be removed ?

In HQ the only reason I can think of for the endpoint to send multiple GOAWAY frames is to first signal the intention to drain the connection, so that the remote endpoint on receipt stops creating new streams, and then after 1RTT (or on confirmation that the GOAWAY was received) the local endpoint can actually stop accepting new streams and seal the last stream ID and send a new GOAWAY frame. The remote endpoint upon receipt can now reset streams it thinks are established but in truth are not, with HTTP_REQUEST_CANCELLED, as explained above.

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----==_mimepart_5b85ec598142a_521a3fb7608d45bc585ab-- From nobody Tue Aug 28 18:30:12 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F303C12DD85 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2018 18:30:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Po6BtmIUbwtb for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2018 18:30:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BBF2F129385 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2018 18:30:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2018 18:30:08 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1535506208; bh=V+wNHcRPQFBH7qq9GtG43XNWG5PgLXlYyYm+F8RaxZ4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=YNdriXG7x8qYbVQYDJjPctfpuN2AAljGmBwYLLphJ9agqck51VK3LGW3DZGq/93j6 dtkeVL7S7u0lFeZbZD66w/Y44TVlgeqSuUHSZdqAy6q1tE0uUS/U2S5iGdSvsKmTYk eHchdZ7Qrt618WcRMsrJX56ZvUxzoUMdbAGmrGDI= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Authenticate Retry (#1710) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b85f720a90f3_33063ffa276d45b4202a6"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 01:30:11 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b85f720a90f3_33063ffa276d45b4202a6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here I was thinking of enabling what Mike suggested. Perhaps the client can copy the Retry (or Retries, or a hash thereof) into its transport parameters and the server can either check at its discretion. @hardie, there are two pieces that are relevant here: the connection ID and the token. Both would need some form of checking/protection that is covered by something more strongly authenticated than the Initial keys. Using Handshake keys would probably work if we needed that, but it's probably easier all around to put something into the cryptographic handshake transcript. One thing I'm concerned about is the erasure scenario that @kazuho described where a MitM can force a Retry without the server ever being aware of it having happened. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1710#issuecomment-416793025 ----==_mimepart_5b85f720a90f3_33063ffa276d45b4202a6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Here I was thinking of enabling what Mike suggested. Perhaps the clie= nt can copy the Retry (or Retries, or a hash thereof) into its transport = parameters and the server can either check at its discretion.

@hardie, there are two pieces that = are relevant here: the connection ID and the token. Both would need some= form of checking/protection that is covered by something more strongly a= uthenticated than the Initial keys. Using Handshake keys would probably = work if we needed that, but it's probably easier all around to put someth= ing into the cryptographic handshake transcript. One thing I'm concerned= about is the erasure scenario that @kazuho<= /a> described where a MitM can force a Retry without the server ever bein= g aware of it having happened.

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Section 7.15 of -14 says:

   A client MUST NOT acknowledge Retry packets.  Retry packets include
   the packet number from the Initial packet it responds to.  Version
   Negotiation packets cannot be acknowledged because they do not
   contain a packet number.  Rather than relying on ACK frames, these
   packets are implicitly acknowledged by the next Initial packet sent
   by the client.

This should be changed to say something like "Version Negotiation and Retry packets cannot be acknowledged..."

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----==_mimepart_5b864131ed485_3dd3ff3250d45b4450497-- From nobody Wed Aug 29 00:00:19 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F4C212008A for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 00:00:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AtWZJcdE3lyQ for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 00:00:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A4C87126F72 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 00:00:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 00:00:15 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1535526016; bh=9UWabscL3uinIUT475fgYsBRSwf8HrGKxg4/EEl8yKs=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=zEsYVBN41NrYX7KfEDuKJkBGGhiGvt7AdCh9VWwJvOf226X5cnmjbQcYUm7DP5xXk cr8pIrj/9HevX82gd9nS8Ifx0hJslC0ltIKK072DwBM+4tKA+QO+w4WSsLGy3seKL+ f8RCOe+9PdBtTD9bwGDY6qIpPOL1aiwhF9Gr6xa8= From: Christian Huitema Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] ACK and PADDING (#1713) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b86447ff2b60_5a43fde1aad45c0872869"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: huitema X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 07:00:19 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b86447ff2b60_5a43fde1aad45c0872869 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit huitema commented on this pull request. > @@ -3418,14 +3418,15 @@ ACK Block (repeated): ### Sending ACK Frames Implementations MUST NOT generate packets that only contain ACK frames in -response to packets which only contain ACK frames. However, they MUST -acknowledge packets containing only ACK frames when sending ACK frames in -response to other packets. Implementations MUST NOT send more than one packet -containing only an ACK frame per received packet that contains frames other than -an ACK frame. Packets containing non-ACK frames MUST be acknowledged -immediately or when a delayed ack timer expires. The delayed ack timer MUST -NOT delay an ACK for longer than an RTT, which ensures an ACK frame is sent -at least once per RTT if new packets needing acknowledgement were received. +response to packets which only contain ACK and PADDING frames. However, they +MUST acknowledge packets containing only ACK and PADDING frames when sending +ACK frames in response to other packets. Implementations MUST NOT send more +than one packet containing only an ACK frame per received packet that contains Should we mention that Challenge and Challenge response frames have the same treatment? What about extension frames that would be defined using the extension mechanism? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1713#discussion_r213564791 ----==_mimepart_5b86447ff2b60_5a43fde1aad45c0872869 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3418,14 +3418,15 @@ ACK Block (repeated):
 ### Sending ACK Frames
 
 Implementations MUST NOT generate packets that only contain ACK frames in
-response to packets which only contain ACK frames. However, they MUST
-acknowledge packets containing only ACK frames when sending ACK frames in
-response to other packets.  Implementations MUST NOT send more than one packet
-containing only an ACK frame per received packet that contains frames other than
-an ACK frame.  Packets containing non-ACK frames MUST be acknowledged
-immediately or when a delayed ack timer expires. The delayed ack timer MUST
-NOT delay an ACK for longer than an RTT, which ensures an ACK frame is sent
-at least once per RTT if new packets needing acknowledgement were received.
+response to packets which only contain ACK and PADDING frames. However, they
+MUST acknowledge packets containing only ACK and PADDING frames when sending
+ACK frames in response to other packets.  Implementations MUST NOT send more
+than one packet containing only an ACK frame per received packet that contains

Should we mention that Challenge and Challenge response frames have the same treatment? What about extension frames that would be defined using the extension mechanism?

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@mikkelfj commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3418,14 +3418,15 @@ ACK Block (repeated):
 ### Sending ACK Frames
 
 Implementations MUST NOT generate packets that only contain ACK frames in
-response to packets which only contain ACK frames. However, they MUST
-acknowledge packets containing only ACK frames when sending ACK frames in
-response to other packets.  Implementations MUST NOT send more than one packet
-containing only an ACK frame per received packet that contains frames other than
-an ACK frame.  Packets containing non-ACK frames MUST be acknowledged
-immediately or when a delayed ack timer expires. The delayed ack timer MUST
-NOT delay an ACK for longer than an RTT, which ensures an ACK frame is sent
-at least once per RTT if new packets needing acknowledgement were received.
+response to packets which only contain ACK and PADDING frames. However, they
+MUST acknowledge packets containing only ACK and PADDING frames when sending
+ACK frames in response to other packets.  Implementations MUST NOT send more
+than one packet containing only an ACK frame per received packet that contains

@huitema there is already an issue open on extension frames #1487

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@MikeBishop commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> +any eviction-prone entries, which are dynamic table entries that might be
+evicted soon.  Rather than reference an eviction-prone entry, the encoder SHOULD
+emit an Indexed-Duplicate representation (see {{indexed-duplicate}}), and
+reference the duplicate instead.
+
+To identify eviction-prone entries, the encoder can maintain a draining index,
+which is the smallest absolute index in the dynamic table that it will emit a
+reference for.  As new entries are inserted, the encoder increments the
+draining index such that the amount of free and draining space in the dyanmic
+table is larger than its target threshold.
+
+~~~~~~~~~~  drawing
+   +----------------+-----------------------+------------+
+   | Eviction-prone |     Referenceable     | Free Space |
+   |    Entries     |        Entries        |            |
+   +----------------+-----------------------+------------+

I'm with @afrind. The pathological case I think you're describing is an encoder that won't / isn't permitted to block deciding that it should duplicate an old entry, but still can't use either one. If it doesn't duplicate it more than once, that should be okay.

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Fixed #1428 You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1715 -- Commit Summary -- * Add max_bytes_before_ack to transport -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (12) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1715.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1715.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1715 ----==_mimepart_5b8738066a25e_33073fd0b86d45c01184bc Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Possibly it needs to be mentioned in recovery as well?

Fixed #1428

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Once #1428 is resolved, I believe I can construct fairly simple pseudocode for the ack sending algorithm and I believe this is worthwhile.

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----==_mimepart_5b87419cb9ab_25813fbe47ed45b42153a2-- From nobody Wed Aug 29 18:17:59 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A42EF130ED6 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 18:17:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dpERh-eIZ554 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 18:17:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B9FD12426A for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 18:17:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 18:17:55 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1535591875; bh=ylmmdom03rrBgGZwNqgZIvFqSgzjuqe4D97w6IIpYrw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=1IeDFVSj5z1epySZuFtama3BIjGa6zdtapIZGaXlvg98BEh8E6HnF7s32nh6O74wE RloNQBebVZQMMTZ4D4HNuoNRI08/FgIaW49yPGaZBKnN66mwdJt1gg8b8b18jsHc4w ze58RfnO6l3gga25hFb4p+DH8v7Dxoyh7M6yI3KA= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Add max_bytes_before_ack to transport (#1715) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b8745c370550_47fd3fc80f4d45c41207b5"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2018 01:17:58 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b8745c370550_47fd3fc80f4d45c41207b5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson commented on this pull request. > @@ -3425,6 +3433,10 @@ immediately or when a delayed ack timer expires. The delayed ack timer MUST NOT delay an ACK for longer than an RTT, which ensures an ACK frame is sent at least once per RTT if new packets needing acknowledgement were received. +If the max_bytes_before_ack transport parameter has been received, the +receiver SHOULD send an ACK frame immediately once that many octets of packets +containing frames besides ACK or PADDING have been received. What is the logic you are looking for? Count the total size of received packets, unless they are ACK-only, then send an ACK when count>max_bytes_before_ack? I would reframe this slightly in that case. "The max_bytes_before_ack transport parameter can be used to request more frequent acknowledgments. After sending a packet containing an ACK frame, a receiver counts the size of all packets it receives, omitting packets that only contain ACK or PADDING frames. Once this count exceeds the value of the max_bytes_before_ack transport parameter it has received from a peer, the receiver MUST send an ACK frame immediately." -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1715#pullrequestreview-150808903 ----==_mimepart_5b8745c370550_47fd3fc80f4d45c41207b5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3425,6 +3433,10 @@ immediately or when a delayed ack timer expires. The delayed ack timer MUST
 NOT delay an ACK for longer than an RTT, which ensures an ACK frame is sent
 at least once per RTT if new packets needing acknowledgement were received.
 
+If the max_bytes_before_ack transport parameter has been received, the
+receiver SHOULD send an ACK frame immediately once that many octets of packets
+containing frames besides ACK or PADDING have been received.

What is the logic you are looking for? Count the total size of received packets, unless they are ACK-only, then send an ACK when count>max_bytes_before_ack?

I would reframe this slightly in that case. "The max_bytes_before_ack transport parameter can be used to request more frequent acknowledgments. After sending a packet containing an ACK frame, a receiver counts the size of all packets it receives, omitting packets that only contain ACK or PADDING frames. Once this count exceeds the value of the max_bytes_before_ack transport parameter it has received from a peer, the receiver MUST send an ACK frame immediately."

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The current text says about the StreamID in the GOAWAY frame definition:

This identifier ... MAY be zero if no requests were processed.

With the latest transport changes, stream 0 is now a valid bidirectional stream, so GOAWAY(0) actually means that stream 0 is accepted/could be opened.
This opens up a case where an endpoint cannot know for sure whether the remote endpoint has accepted stream 0 or not.

If you agree this is an issue, I see two options to fix this:
one is to add a flag to the GOAWAY frame that identify this particular case;
another one is to slightly change the GOAWAY semantics to say that StreamID is the id of the last client-initiated stream plus one, i.e. the endpoint agree that any stream with ID >= StreamID was not accepted.

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Good catch. I prefer the "this stream and all higher ones were not processed, guaranteed" interpretation. Flags are awful.

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Would it be pissible to have both a Reno style and a rate based style algorithm - or at least a refence?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3425,6 +3433,10 @@ immediately or when a delayed ack timer expires. The delayed ack timer MUST
 NOT delay an ACK for longer than an RTT, which ensures an ACK frame is sent
 at least once per RTT if new packets needing acknowledgement were received.
 
+If the max_bytes_before_ack transport parameter has been received, the
+receiver SHOULD send an ACK frame immediately once that many octets of packets
+containing frames besides ACK or PADDING have been received.

IoT devices may receive data at a lower power cost than transmitting. Firing up the transmit radio could be costly. For these applications it makes more sense to transmit ACK's at timed intervals. They might skip an interval if to few bytes have been received.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3425,6 +3433,10 @@ immediately or when a delayed ack timer expires. The delayed ack timer MUST
 NOT delay an ACK for longer than an RTT, which ensures an ACK frame is sent
 at least once per RTT if new packets needing acknowledgement were received.
 
+If the max_bytes_before_ack transport parameter has been received, the
+receiver SHOULD send an ACK frame immediately once that many octets of packets
+containing frames besides ACK or PADDING have been received.

Yeah, I don't think we want MUST, but I'll add a caveat that if you don't do what the peer requests, you risk reduced performance.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3425,6 +3433,10 @@ immediately or when a delayed ack timer expires. The delayed ack timer MUST
 NOT delay an ACK for longer than an RTT, which ensures an ACK frame is sent
 at least once per RTT if new packets needing acknowledgement were received.
 
+If the max_bytes_before_ack transport parameter has been received, the
+receiver SHOULD send an ACK frame immediately once that many octets of packets
+containing frames besides ACK or PADDING have been received.

Martin, I tried tweaking your suggested wording, but I failed to come up with something I liked better, so I tweaked what I had.

FWIW, I'm really tired of saying "Except ACK and PADDING" everywhere, so I I'll probably try to tackle that issue(#1595) soon.

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However, they MUST -acknowledge packets containing only ACK frames when sending ACK frames in -response to other packets. Implementations MUST NOT send more than one packet -containing only an ACK frame per received packet that contains frames other than -an ACK frame. Packets containing non-ACK frames MUST be acknowledged -immediately or when a delayed ack timer expires. The delayed ack timer MUST -NOT delay an ACK for longer than an RTT, which ensures an ACK frame is sent -at least once per RTT if new packets needing acknowledgement were received. +response to packets which only contain ACK and PADDING frames. However, they +MUST acknowledge packets containing only ACK and PADDING frames when sending +ACK frames in response to other packets. Implementations MUST NOT send more +than one packet containing only an ACK frame per received packet that contains I think only an ACK is most correct there. 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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3418,14 +3418,15 @@ ACK Block (repeated):
 ### Sending ACK Frames
 
 Implementations MUST NOT generate packets that only contain ACK frames in
-response to packets which only contain ACK frames. However, they MUST
-acknowledge packets containing only ACK frames when sending ACK frames in
-response to other packets.  Implementations MUST NOT send more than one packet
-containing only an ACK frame per received packet that contains frames other than
-an ACK frame.  Packets containing non-ACK frames MUST be acknowledged
-immediately or when a delayed ack timer expires. The delayed ack timer MUST
-NOT delay an ACK for longer than an RTT, which ensures an ACK frame is sent
-at least once per RTT if new packets needing acknowledgement were received.
+response to packets which only contain ACK and PADDING frames. However, they
+MUST acknowledge packets containing only ACK and PADDING frames when sending
+ACK frames in response to other packets.  Implementations MUST NOT send more
+than one packet containing only an ACK frame per received packet that contains

I think only an ACK is most correct there. If you really wanted to send ACK and PADDING, that would count towards bytes in flight, and then congestion control is involved, which provides a different rate limit.

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I am not enthusiastic about that. It feels like a spur-of-the-moment addition. I am not sure that it solves a real problem, compared to a time based approach. Also, if we did add something like that, we may want a way to tune the variable during the lifetime of the connection. > @@ -1671,6 +1672,13 @@ disable_migration (0x0009): address other than that used to perform the handshake. This parameter is a zero-length value. +max_bytes_before_ack (0x000c): + +: An unsigned 32-bit integer that indicates the maximum number of bytes received + before an ACK frame should be sent. The peer sending this value indicates + to the receiver the value it should use. If this value is absent, the + receiver may use any conformant acknowledgement algorithm. + The current algorithms are either time based or packet based, requiring for example several ACKs per RTT, and specifying a maximum delay or a maximum number of packets before an ACK will be sent. What is the rationale for adding a byte based control? Also, given that the algorithms are time based or packet based, why not specify max_packets_before_ack, or max_ack_delay? > @@ -3425,6 +3433,13 @@ immediately or when a delayed ack timer expires. The delayed ack timer MUST NOT delay an ACK for longer than an RTT, which ensures an ACK frame is sent at least once per RTT if new packets needing acknowledgement were received. +If the max_bytes_before_ack transport parameter has been received, the +receiver SHOULD send an ACK frame immediately when at least that many octets +of packets containing frames besides ACK or PADDING have been received since +sending the previous ACK frame. If a receiver sends ACK frames less frequently, +it risks causing the sender to send more slowly, which may lower the delivery +rate at the receiver. + This is not free. It comes in addition to existing logic which is already designed to prevent sender starvation. 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@huitema commented on this pull request.

I am not enthusiastic about that. It feels like a spur-of-the-moment addition. I am not sure that it solves a real problem, compared to a time based approach. Also, if we did add something like that, we may want a way to tune the variable during the lifetime of the connection.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1671,6 +1672,13 @@ disable_migration (0x0009):
   address other than that used to perform the handshake.  This parameter is a
   zero-length value.
 
+max_bytes_before_ack (0x000c):
+
+: An unsigned 32-bit integer that indicates the maximum number of bytes received
+  before an ACK frame should be sent. The peer sending this value indicates
+  to the receiver the value it should use.  If this value is absent, the
+  receiver may use any conformant acknowledgement algorithm.
+

The current algorithms are either time based or packet based, requiring for example several ACKs per RTT, and specifying a maximum delay or a maximum number of packets before an ACK will be sent. What is the rationale for adding a byte based control? Also, given that the algorithms are time based or packet based, why not specify max_packets_before_ack, or max_ack_delay?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3425,6 +3433,13 @@ immediately or when a delayed ack timer expires. The delayed ack timer MUST
 NOT delay an ACK for longer than an RTT, which ensures an ACK frame is sent
 at least once per RTT if new packets needing acknowledgement were received.
 
+If the max_bytes_before_ack transport parameter has been received, the
+receiver SHOULD send an ACK frame immediately when at least that many octets
+of packets containing frames besides ACK or PADDING have been received since
+sending the previous ACK frame. If a receiver sends ACK frames less frequently,
+it risks causing the sender to send more slowly, which may lower the delivery
+rate at the receiver.
+

This is not free. It comes in addition to existing logic which is already designed to prevent sender starvation. It requires at least one additional counter in the connection state, i.e., "max bytes sent at the last ACK time", and of course additional tests in the ACK sending logic.

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However, they MUST -acknowledge packets containing only ACK frames when sending ACK frames in -response to other packets. Implementations MUST NOT send more than one packet -containing only an ACK frame per received packet that contains frames other than -an ACK frame. Packets containing non-ACK frames MUST be acknowledged -immediately or when a delayed ack timer expires. The delayed ack timer MUST -NOT delay an ACK for longer than an RTT, which ensures an ACK frame is sent -at least once per RTT if new packets needing acknowledgement were received. +response to packets which only contain ACK and PADDING frames. However, they +MUST acknowledge packets containing only ACK and PADDING frames when sending +ACK frames in response to other packets. Implementations MUST NOT send more +than one packet containing only an ACK frame per received packet that contains SGTM -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3418,14 +3418,15 @@ ACK Block (repeated):
 ### Sending ACK Frames
 
 Implementations MUST NOT generate packets that only contain ACK frames in
-response to packets which only contain ACK frames. However, they MUST
-acknowledge packets containing only ACK frames when sending ACK frames in
-response to other packets.  Implementations MUST NOT send more than one packet
-containing only an ACK frame per received packet that contains frames other than
-an ACK frame.  Packets containing non-ACK frames MUST be acknowledged
-immediately or when a delayed ack timer expires. The delayed ack timer MUST
-NOT delay an ACK for longer than an RTT, which ensures an ACK frame is sent
-at least once per RTT if new packets needing acknowledgement were received.
+response to packets which only contain ACK and PADDING frames. However, they
+MUST acknowledge packets containing only ACK and PADDING frames when sending
+ACK frames in response to other packets.  Implementations MUST NOT send more
+than one packet containing only an ACK frame per received packet that contains

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----==_mimepart_5b8888459fdda_5aea3fd87d2d45c0954b0-- From nobody Thu Aug 30 17:17:02 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5900F130F55 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 17:17:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id El0rghtRwAIL for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 17:16:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A0795130DC4 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 17:16:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2018 17:16:57 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1535674617; bh=fmoX8aXlAheXiV4mnGXz1pDDtRDkINavymvgIVJ/+Yg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Pb8JhRGb/W+7DUNNNMNFmlIZzCgHSKdTvMIzjiTND+mrVhG444D8pGYS56IRsFKrG trSHHgnVerjSIq9PFF9Kc5AZUv6SDFuDJEi7m0iXeh0Zx/DppWzu1J3L5DK9aFKGXu HJUKoMScuDbjY4c4Q6FlfknG6fCTAQ1nIBwUPxsA= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Add psuedocode for ACK sending logic in recovery (#1716) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b8888f9c345c_650e3ff1d5ed45c0476e5"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2018 00:17:00 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b8888f9c345c_650e3ff1d5ed45c0476e5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Like the rest of this document, Reno-like is a baseline, and we have consensus on doing that. The spectrum of possibilities are not limited by what we specify here, but we do have to specify something that is known to be good for the Internet. If nothing else, describing more than one algorithm would be a schedule risk. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1716#issuecomment-417508729 ----==_mimepart_5b8888f9c345c_650e3ff1d5ed45c0476e5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Like the rest of this document, Reno-like is a baseline, and we have c= onsensus on doing that. The spectrum of possibilities are not limited by= what we specify here, but we do have to specify something that is known = to be good for the Internet. If nothing else, describing more than one a= lgorithm would be a schedule risk.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b8888f9c345c_650e3ff1d5ed45c0476e5-- From nobody Fri Aug 31 11:46:09 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2CDA130DD9 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2018 11:46:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K07JC4pY6E_a for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2018 11:46:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E0DC128CFD for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2018 11:46:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2018 11:45:47 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1535741147; bh=D6MGXScgLeB9S9of1nNOxFl9JMxvmvD3P5jVYMv2J8U=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=n+En4yTT8QGin5g91DspIG77t/0lpvnDHN//dHqB7m7aob2rv8K0G/s6rS8KiGufY UtQcG4sySXJaut3xhezX2nDhGnA11AofpTGUKQqrO48/pJp6Ghndn7frKtLQZzKOFD 43BYz+zGv5MxHGKdhSIAIo8jGwgvYFMlF7joCa7g= From: Victor Vasiliev Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make EOED transmission optional in QUIC, please (#1518) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b898cdb33118_474c3fd3066d45c0970ae"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: vasilvv X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2018 18:46:09 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b898cdb33118_474c3fd3066d45c0970ae Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm not sure I agree with the "correctness proof" argument. EndOfEarlyData exists to protect against truncation attacks on 0-RTT data; as such, it's a part of record layer, not handshake layer. In fact, it did not go into transcript before draft19, so most papers cited for handshake analysis in the RFC do not mention it (out of those that do, the INRIA/MSR analysis treats it as a record layer entity, and _TLS 1.3 in Tamarin_ explicitly states it does not model it at all). Given that this is unnecessary and adds bunch of complex and ugly logic, I think we should remove this. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1518#issuecomment-417756872 ----==_mimepart_5b898cdb33118_474c3fd3066d45c0970ae Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I'm not sure I agree with the "correctness proof" argument. EndOfEarl= yData exists to protect against truncation attacks on 0-RTT data; as such= , it's a part of record layer, not handshake layer. In fact, it did not = go into transcript before draft19, so most papers cited for handshake ana= lysis in the RFC do not mention it (out of those that do, the INRIA/MSR a= nalysis treats it as a record layer entity, and TLS 1.3 in Tamarin explicitly states it does not model it at all).

Given that this is unnecessary and adds bunch of complex and ugly logi= c, I think we should remove this.

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= ----==_mimepart_5b898cdb33118_474c3fd3066d45c0970ae-- From nobody Fri Aug 31 14:52:36 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F772130E1D for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2018 14:52:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qgKdP7Gj9D3p for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2018 14:52:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F2C2812785F for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2018 14:52:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2018 14:52:30 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1535752350; bh=4eH9nKA1FUy+Zi0s7yIQzaP+rlg9AbrUui7F9Qzgdyw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=N6w83k3RsqG/wDm+0z3ik2xtI+vOZ0aVDqrKfPOCUTwQT4F3uTLjK+r4ztT1EfH18 t5QmeWcGRu9jXHzX56Musi6mdXGJlFmZM8LvcFRnpQ7OIZfG+xkJh4kS+1rdyN/oPx o/bK3iVb5ZM7pcPJ1v0J1ewB09uJ97NHzx87fBsk= From: David Benjamin Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make EOED transmission optional in QUIC, please (#1518) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5b89b89eebcd0_3dfc3fa8634d45b8199017"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: davidben X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2018 21:52:34 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5b89b89eebcd0_3dfc3fa8634d45b8199017 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Prior to it being a handshake message, we had an end_of_early_data *alert* and a KeyUpdate *message*. This combination was kind of weird, and since other post-handshake messages exist, so the application record processor must already account for handshake message interrupts, making it a message was simpler. Thus it was made a message for consistency. Messages during the handshake go into the transcript, so in it went. That resulted in a happy accident in stopping servers from breaking streaming 0-RTT, so that all worked well. (Before the change, folks kept trying to read 0-RTT data and *then* decide whether to accept early data, without realizing that [is forbidden and deadlocks](https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8446#section-4.2.11.3). Putting it in the transcript orders early data processing after ServerHello, which makes the processing order implicitly clear.) Neither of these considerations apply to QUIC, and then handshake transcript trivially remains injective with it removed, so removing it seems plausible, and it sounds like it's complicating things a lot. At the same time, QUIC should avoid unnecessary modifications to TLS to keep abstractions clear, so the bar for such tweaks must be high. Otherwise TLS and QUIC will not be able to evolve independently. (Which of these two considerations is stronger in this case, I don't have particular opinions. It does not sound frivolous, but I don't know enough about QUIC to judge how un-frivolous it is.) -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1518#issuecomment-417798551 ----==_mimepart_5b89b89eebcd0_3dfc3fa8634d45b8199017 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Prior to it being a handshake message, we had an end_of_early_data alert and a KeyUpdate message. This combination was kind o= f weird, and since other post-handshake messages exist, so the applicatio= n record processor must already account for handshake message interrupts,= making it a message was simpler. Thus it was made a message for consiste= ncy. Messages during the handshake go into the transcript, so in it went.= That resulted in a happy accident in stopping servers from breaking stre= aming 0-RTT, so that all worked well. (Before the change, folks kept tryi= ng to read 0-RTT data and then decide whether to accept early da= ta, without realizing that is forbidden and deadlocks. Putti= ng it in the transcript orders early data processing after ServerHello, w= hich makes the processing order implicitly clear.)

Neither of these considerations apply to QUIC, and then handshake tran= script trivially remains injective with it removed, so removing it seems = plausible, and it sounds like it's complicating things a lot. At the same= time, QUIC should avoid unnecessary modifications to TLS to keep abstrac= tions clear, so the bar for such tweaks must be high. Otherwise TLS and Q= UIC will not be able to evolve independently.

(Which of these two considerations is stronger in this case, I don't h= ave particular opinions. It does not sound frivolous, but I don't know en= ough about QUIC to judge how un-frivolous it is.)

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