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[ci skip] From nobody Fri Feb 1 03:12:42 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC62813121D for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 03:12:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -11.149 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-11.149 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jpPJWRGAHoZ5 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 03:12:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 28E74130EEE for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 03:12:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2019 03:12:38 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549019558; bh=vy88PPY9ySCIZ4jA0RC/dMzjMhuUnEGt4fuQnfoKrIU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=NSVMPxayfuxFRQF63zhbKv8WNPs1xkRI5d6MCm4nFUhqIps043LcXOMwq7JRirf+X qIjBWgXbGrZ/gfu02UN6z7Nz+TKCF/dpUyIwF62GkpQ+gdtAuVvqOVcudeahr32K+V pmO2wDDmkcgU4Iq3tk3Qsy3xhX/+H2eaadKRVmD0= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] handling of coalesced packets with decryption errors creates DoS opportunity (#2308) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c5429a6cd693_12a63fc95ccd45b463273"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2019 11:12:42 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c5429a6cd693_12a63fc95ccd45b463273 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > While I understand that some are concerned about this being used as an attack vector, there are people who do not care about this (including me), because there are more attractive ways to enforce the server to do more calculation. I'm not (that) concerned about calculation. I'm concerned about disconnects. Either due to changes by an attacker or due to a random error in the packet. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2308#issuecomment-459689173 ----==_mimepart_5c5429a6cd693_12a63fc95ccd45b463273 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

While I understand that some are concerned about this being used as an= attack vector, there are people who do not care about this (including me= ), because there are more attractive ways to enforce the server to do mor= e calculation.

I'm not (that) concerned about calculation. I'm concerned about discon= nects. Either due to changes by an attacker or due to a random error in t= he packet.

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= ----==_mimepart_5c5429a6cd693_12a63fc95ccd45b463273-- From nobody Fri Feb 1 04:00:13 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C332F127B4C for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 04:00:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -12.553 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-12.553 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZKMGCVJ6-SGV for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 04:00:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C0885128CE4 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 04:00:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2019 04:00:09 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549022409; bh=mbZUa7Lml4crv4RwSX53+jzOAHssYRAc8iTg1Ibh7wg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=lr4sBKwCV9pcMf8eTfqgxs71N+YDnFZuvldhw6z211QzBwmYDFfWNDSYkE7GH0s5T /lQLYYleyfIPBCzoa/ccjjuPDiZYc6GiEclryn3e911IJDGvZvSvAqirvQ1TTXP5OV SYr+P3tU852PWoGenw982kZt/orRo6lxW7c2Xz1o= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spoofed retry token attack on IP authentication (#2394) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c5434c9814b4_a043f9b57ed45b8192e5"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2019 12:00:13 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c5434c9814b4_a043f9b57ed45b8192e5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is an interesting attack, and I have several points that I would like to argue. First, this is not an MOTS attack that we need to consider. Because the attack can be mounted by a malicious client. A client first obtains one token, then uses that token to create multiple connections. That is an attack vector that we need to fix (assuming that we haven't already). Note also that we are giving up to have protection against on-path attackers injecting Initial packets. Therefore, the protection method that @marten-seemann is fine. It's true that an MOTS attacker can race a Retry to prevent a legitimate client from establishing a connection. However that's not something we need to fix, considering that an MOTS attacker can simply inject an Initial packet containing a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame to disrupt the handshake. Lastly, I would like to point out that there is another (possibly simpler) way of addressing the issue. A server can embed the server CID issued in the Retry packet in the Retry Token that it issues, and use the token to confirm that the Initial packet sent in response to the Retry contains the correct DCID. I think we should recommend servers to implement some kind of protection. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2394#issuecomment-459700403 ----==_mimepart_5c5434c9814b4_a043f9b57ed45b8192e5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

This is an interesting attack, and I have several points that I would = like to argue.

First, this is not an MOTS attack that we need to consider. Because th= e attack can be mounted by a malicious client. A client first obtains one= token, then uses that token to create multiple connections. That is an a= ttack vector that we need to fix (assuming that we haven't already).

Note also that we are giving up to have protection against on-path att= ackers injecting Initial packets.

Therefore, the protection method that @marten-seemann= is fine. It's true that an MOTS attacker can race a Retry to prevent a l= egitimate client from establishing a connection. However that's not somet= hing we need to fix, considering that an MOTS attacker can simply inject = an Initial packet containing a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame to disrupt the hand= shake.

Lastly, I would like to point out that there is another (possibly simp= ler) way of addressing the issue. A server can embed the server CID issue= d in the Retry packet in the Retry Token that it issues, and use the toke= n to confirm that the Initial packet sent in response to the Retry contai= ns the correct DCID.

I think we should recommend servers to implement some kind of protecti= on.

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However that's not something we need to fix, considering that an MOTS = attacker can simply inject an Initial packet containing a CONNECTION_CLOS= E frame to disrupt the handshake.

This is not about a DoS attack. It is about about privilege escalation= . The man on the side can observe another connection and pretend to have = the IP of the original client. If the server grants access to the observe= r based on the original clients IP, trust has been broken.

Racing the packet is sufficient to achieve that.

Racing will also close the original clients connection iff the token c= an only be used once, but that is a minor concern, I agree.

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= = ----==_mimepart_5c5437abe917_42bf3fd1fbcd45bc229939-- From nobody Fri Feb 1 04:18:25 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE5A3128CE4 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 04:18:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -11.149 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-11.149 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vN418JhrziyH for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 04:18:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 306BB128AFB for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 04:18:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2019 04:18:21 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549023501; bh=eJHU7kjux8ECumTeGoxkYhKInqMvCXjGudDnBzA7aJ4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Ixw3LVJ4f0Gwb80HG/wFJNNzuAu7HaNVCHc/TI/VwEJV9+JwGalrJh+vDmTVxolSV dY7oIHLr6Kr+ZXwwunGI8ktwZ6nKORdAY0Geku7ty8L0qkLV8dIHHYr31HDrvFu6jH l+0LgpxySeq0GkyrMCLY9/4YUVfviwHhG0iLezsw= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spoofed retry token attack on IP authentication (#2394) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c54390d5b20f_53773fa22fad45c450146"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2019 12:18:24 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c54390d5b20f_53773fa22fad45c450146 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I believe the fix is to only allow tokens to be used once as Marten suggests, and to add to the vulnerably section that a server SHOULD/MUST not grant privileged access based on the clients IP address verified by a Retry token since on-path devices and also path observing devices can race a Retry packet with a spoofed IP address. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2394#issuecomment-459704800 ----==_mimepart_5c54390d5b20f_53773fa22fad45c450146 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I believe the fix is to only allow tokens to be used once as Marten su= ggests, and to add to the vulnerably section that a server SHOULD/MUST no= t grant privileged access based on the clients IP address verified by a R= etry token since on-path devices and also path observing devices can race= a Retry packet with a spoofed IP address.

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= ----==_mimepart_5c54390d5b20f_53773fa22fad45c450146-- From nobody Fri Feb 1 04:26:35 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DE9D128AFB for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 04:26:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -11.149 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-11.149 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nnini8X1Nk0z for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 04:26:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 307A6127133 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 04:26:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2019 04:26:30 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549023990; bh=hZykkQ9fDzVl885AmWmWxVRkHxkC9780iLFzo9eMKYw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=d1GWoSjdrniU82dKRZGivckbZHTnRWdjG0o/8Zh8zA+pzlWxDFEp/TsxwwqTGnGVH KOuYC3Bf8FwEJJAJR27R4hLFxM9SKhVXXbE0BhCoyY7XHHby7m+Pe6YKoB6rKskeoz ew5TUCrOi6N3DpLffQx+KMCDlEoNS5otlHDw6cxw= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spoofed retry token attack on IP authentication (#2394) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c543af645855_780e3fc6140d45c016463"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2019 12:26:33 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c543af645855_780e3fc6140d45c016463 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > This is not about a DoS attack. It is about about privilege escalation.= =0D =0D Would you mind elaborate what the =E2=80=9Cprivilege=E2=80=9D is under th= is context?=0D =0D My understanding is that it is nothing more than the right to establish t= he connection. I think my arguments hold assuming that is true.=0D =0D -- =0D You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.=0D Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub:=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2394#issuecomment-459706766= ----==_mimepart_5c543af645855_780e3fc6140d45c016463 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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This is not about a DoS attack. It is about about privilege escalation= .

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=0D= =0D = ----==_mimepart_5c543af645855_780e3fc6140d45c016463-- From nobody Fri Feb 1 04:32:27 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B49E1127133 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 04:32:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -12.552 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-12.552 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aByfC4zzEuXP for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 04:32:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 031DC126C7E for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 04:32:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2019 04:32:22 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549024342; bh=bNOk+0Pe/hTSXKQky4jfeD+XEGUzvtg0qQ6srYUbVPI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=lxIu0QDuIgQoXWeQDzR/L3o/pK8btzyJ7pVIOuI6wrjAeJ9CRz3sO5TG7T2unNM5L mQhDx+lQdZmbEC4DeHIi77xRbor3AWPOs9mnC2ofFBM+LFwlllB2Wtes5UMInETjnc gXpR/e9ehTFyaQvrCqLV69dUhl4kF+HbahzbPzjk= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spoofed retry token attack on IP authentication (#2394) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c543c56eff04_503a3fe6168d45b498077"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2019 12:32:26 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c543c56eff04_503a3fe6168d45b498077 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > to add to the vulnerably section that a server SHOULD/MUST not grant privileged access based on the clients IP address verified by a Retry token since on-path devices and also path observing devices can race a Retry packet with a spoofed IP address. I disagree, because a node that can receive packets going to address X and that can also send a packet that states to originate from X can initiate a new connection by itself. For such a node, there is no need to piggyback on an Initial sent by the true owner of address X. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2394#issuecomment-459708299 ----==_mimepart_5c543c56eff04_503a3fe6168d45b498077 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

to add to the vulnerably section that a server SHOULD/MUST not grant p= rivileged access based on the clients IP address verified by a Retry toke= n since on-path devices and also path observing devices can race a Retry = packet with a spoofed IP address.

I disagree, because a node that can receive packets going to address X= and that can also send a packet that states to originate from X can init= iate a new connection by itself.

For such a node, there is no need to piggyback on an Initial sent by t= he true owner of address X.

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= ----==_mimepart_5c543c56eff04_503a3fe6168d45b498077-- From nobody Fri Feb 1 04:50:52 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCF9C130EE2 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 04:50:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -11.149 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-11.149 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2cXHwrmqu75K for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 04:50:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-13.smtp.github.com (out-13.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B5A8C128CE4 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 04:50:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2019 04:50:47 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549025448; bh=rNyII7UsCdq4uRn+Xe7JiZJJciBxOfNX3vuKUQK1bSg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=qJtbxkSo/3PGdNXS/2eFz3QB9W4m8hwHpOEXNXbIaCQbik47kAABKoMXyRTWy6ATz bvz4W785jAzY+3VezOD3Fb70MuoaBbsi8r/zZWYPhPuayx+v7Sy3ESK8qAraWt/GdL sVeHEvAoBmhdQnlNe9l7Vfc9xxpC8negPahlrRlc= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spoofed retry token attack on IP authentication (#2394) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c5440a7d7f62_3c333f7eb46d45bc24693a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2019 12:50:51 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c5440a7d7f62_3c333f7eb46d45bc24693a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I might be just the right to establish a connection, which is bad enough. But a QUIC server implementation could also provide an API that indicates that 1) connections should be Retried to prove IP, and 2) provide the source IP of the application layer with a status of verified. From then on, things can go arbitrarily wrong. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2394#issuecomment-459712735 ----==_mimepart_5c5440a7d7f62_3c333f7eb46d45bc24693a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I might be just the right to establish a connection, which is bad enou= gh.

But a QUIC server implementation could also provide an API that indica= tes that 1) connections should be Retried to prove IP, and 2) provide the= source IP of the application layer with a status of verified. From then = on, things can go arbitrarily wrong.

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But even without Retry, I think things can go wrong if the server API = indicates the IP is trusted. But without Retry the conclusion arrives lat= er and requires an on-path attack.

So that begs the question: why would you Retry for other reasons than = to redirect to a new host?

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= ----==_mimepart_5c5441967f89d_698d3fbd1dcd45b42909c6-- From nobody Fri Feb 1 05:01:28 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06C18130EE2 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 05:01:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -12.552 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-12.552 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id O74pVdmEFqch for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 05:01:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C8342127133 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 05:01:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2019 05:01:21 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549026081; bh=7bvv7slgQIM2ZrDeMa/RpOHf8JKqTYHdXyyYzy5bnqA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=yXy2m99uYP5/MnP+wh67hbGrSscFXSe++Eb+uWCzqqQENQLdbaRh745+uPbajW/D8 WCd7gjLGppzKYKwff/zUZFdmSBVjS3fw1tNGnEdWlDPHjPen7piJezsinS5XCKcJkB /nUaZAyAl33RrnTj7BtNFHdLOjzPdd+AS3v6ltnE= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spoofed retry token attack on IP authentication (#2394) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c54432197e0e_7ab23fa8becd45b4369c5"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2019 13:01:27 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c54432197e0e_7ab23fa8becd45b4369c5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oh, but you can always create a new connection with a spoofed IP, you don't even need a Retry token. But that makes me question the entire point of https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#rfc.section.8.1.1 > As long as it is not possible for an attacker to generate a valid token for its own address (see Section 8.1.3) and the client is able to return that token, it proves to the server that it received the token. But an attacker does not need to forge a token, it can just pretend to have another IP that it can listen in on. The server will then voluntarily provide the token. I suppose this requires a v2 authenticated handshake. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2394#issuecomment-459715345 ----==_mimepart_5c54432197e0e_7ab23fa8becd45b4369c5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Oh, but you can always create a new connection with a spoofed IP, you = don't even need a Retry token.

But that makes me question the entire point of
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As long as it is not possible for an attacker to generate a valid toke= n for its own address (see Section 8.1.3) and the client is able to retur= n that token, it proves to the server that it received the token.

But an attacker does not need to forge a token, it can just pretend to= have another IP that it can listen in on. The server will then voluntari= ly provide the token.

I suppose this requires a v2 authenticated handshake.

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= ----==_mimepart_5c54432197e0e_7ab23fa8becd45b4369c5-- From nobody Fri Feb 1 05:13:56 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33ADF12DF72 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 05:13:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -11.149 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-11.149 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Wv8GheWEzTVB for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 05:13:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8BB28127133 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 05:13:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2019 05:13:52 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549026832; bh=AE2PGT6dLaWg25Z0MTaNdzx3l8EdDJuPqaJq+xGSucI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=qoTrMyrVEx1tVuBaSFYZIrfgDaNyk80+AxawpEg/dfPyaK1NV8cWcZ3Bn9ziJQCQd mKjtSwmgK1AIAMsQbLOc/ODoTJ+eExTbvUChjqQ89sFe8gBaPL19l55HaOD+NdWFRW MwTi4Ii/bgqyNAy9nQyW38cHnnNngfLCwlf2NV8k= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spoofed retry token attack on IP authentication (#2394) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c544610a1333_d033fabd1ed45c4114924"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2019 13:13:55 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c544610a1333_d033fabd1ed45c4114924 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So the conclusion is that you cannot do anything about it in v1. There isn't even much reason to strongly prevent token reuse since only path observers can reuse it, and they have powers anyway. But there is reason to advise in vulnerability that Retry only protects against off-path attackers, not on-the-side or on-path attackers. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2394#issuecomment-459718522 ----==_mimepart_5c544610a1333_d033fabd1ed45c4114924 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

So the conclusion is that you cannot do anything about it in v1. There= isn't even much reason to strongly prevent token reuse since only path o= bservers can reuse it, and they have powers anyway.

But there is reason to advise in vulnerability that Retry only protect= s against off-path attackers, not on-the-side or on-path attackers.

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= ----==_mimepart_5c544610a1333_d033fabd1ed45c4114924-- From nobody Fri Feb 1 05:30:35 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A507127598 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 05:30:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -12.553 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-12.553 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HYMSiPKJPmKT for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 05:30:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 687C7127133 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 05:30:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2019 05:30:30 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549027830; bh=bQMwdqCz+0fFsbOnWLxCDSNqMH97stZlnpaCCjDPeAA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=n2qeQ++VmbBHYyvMK74Vj4O37uLG1iaa07tpO2Yo6wz1iLlJT2/gM7y88kMsfvcta 0WQTgn7q8fLy6mnbHfoNZOukWyoBCWG0KhcogneJ+XkTCMMg/w9KHTtQzbQ4uwDgqV Yn8UjNr8xvSTSNtALV9X/RBFuyDPj/MKN+Bei/Q8= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spoofed retry token attack on IP authentication (#2394) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c5449f638656_34653fa37d2d45b48732"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2019 13:30:33 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c5449f638656_34653fa37d2d45b48732 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > So the conclusion is that you cannot do anything about it in v1. There isn't even much reason to strongly prevent token reuse since only path observers can reuse it, and they have powers anyway. We cannot do anything in any version of QUIC to prevent a MOTS attacker from spoofing an address, because an IP address is never authenticated. From an endpoint's view, it is impossible to tell whether if it's talking with the legitimate owner of IP address X or if it's talking with somebody spoofing address X. OTOH, as I pointed out in https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2394#issuecomment-459700403, we might want to prohibit a token from being used to create multiple connections. This is because one of the use-case of Retry tokens is to limit costly TLS handshake operations to connection establish attempts that have proved (probabilistically) to own the IP address (by responding to the Retry). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2394#issuecomment-459722927 ----==_mimepart_5c5449f638656_34653fa37d2d45b48732 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

So the conclusion is that you cannot do anything about it in v1. There= isn't even much reason to strongly prevent token reuse since only path o= bservers can reuse it, and they have powers anyway.

We cannot do anything in any version of QUIC to prevent a MOTS attacke= r from spoofing an address, because an IP address is never authenticated.= From an endpoint's view, it is impossible to tell whether if it's talkin= g with the legitimate owner of IP address X or if it's talking with someb= ody spoofing address X.

OTOH, as I pointed out in
#2394 (comment), we might want to prohibit a token from = being used to create multiple connections. This is because one of the use= -case of Retry tokens is to limit costly TLS handshake operations to conn= ection establish attempts that have proved (probabilistically) to own the= IP address (by responding to the Retry).

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I agree, but if you can get a signed initial packet it is easier to trust the IP, although not fool proof.

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I've had conversations with a number of people who are interested in identifying QUIC using the QUIC bit. Only one packet does not have the QUIC bit always set to 1 currently, and that's version negotiation.
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-transport-18#section-17.2.1

Given we have no use for the extra bits in VN, I'm inclined to specify implementations must set it to 1.

If we think we'll one day want to claw back use of the QUIC bit and allow it to be 0, then this is a poor plan, but I don't think that will end up being practical on the public internet.

A related question is whether we want to put the QUIC bit in the invariants. It's clearly not technically necessary, but it would recognize the ossification I anticipate.

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=0D =0D =0D ----==_mimepart_5c55ceb0d0a58_45db3f8c1e2d45bc810739-- From nobody Sat Feb 2 11:54:05 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8C0512E7C1 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2019 11:54:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -11.149 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-11.149 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id W0NFBfcHEx0h for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2019 11:54:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D06C8127133 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2019 11:54:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2019 11:54:00 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549137240; bh=v5qF2Qj4umappkI0rQZS+tp9aL37sfi2mgiLfvD+S4k=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=2J25KR9CoiU9sVD/qKmqDho41pf2OXmkCsHx2njJJ/yxSJHH8M4DcaFAkgjAuxSvA dI9+CwC9uuvz2BXEwqJsBbJg/onHO8qLoIBpBFB1zsHyCMWCNYiSF2nCmxUWPsLRR6 hRSEaZcaAk3sIQlsRWI6qeIMLNeBsAKdhlwUeXYY= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_[quicwg/base-drafts]_Describe_PMTU_probing_that?= =?UTF-8?Q?_includes_source_connection_ID_for_routing_=E2=80=A6_=28#2402=29?= Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c55f558896d2_39fd3ff6be6d45bc799512"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2019 19:54:04 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c55f558896d2_39fd3ff6be6d45bc799512 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry, but this sounds like a huge hack - coalescing with unused handshake packets. It also sounds like it is at risk of being ignored. I'd rather see a specific permission for a probe packet with a longer header as the only long header permissible throughout the connection, and possibly require it to not be coalesced with anything. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2402#issuecomment-459994241 ----==_mimepart_5c55f558896d2_39fd3ff6be6d45bc799512 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Sorry, but this sounds like a huge hack - coalescing with unused hands= hake packets. It also sounds like it is at risk of being ignored.

I'd rather see a specific permission for a probe packet with a longer = header as the only long header permissible throughout the connection, and= possibly require it to not be coalesced with anything.

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= ----==_mimepart_5c55f558896d2_39fd3ff6be6d45bc799512-- From nobody Sat Feb 2 13:23:38 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3636B130E88 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2019 13:23:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.935 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.935 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4AonsREvtXZy for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2019 13:23:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 07FCB130E84 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2019 13:23:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2019 13:23:33 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549142613; bh=ZQwsziGXSbO51pJ57SSIcPKqWGHfLNBUtfMAFXGGRmQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Gjqaq5AIDkVA3wjayYnZOyohOWp+6blCCVaU2nieT3gt1dlqwecSsui2utbStsFwe +VRHxJs3xb+U9OOrltt6EybZbA/I3YDVm2ej9Mvk50Nma8Zzk6YpJY+a4dqCiKKm5b f/pBzf+qgrSzchZWQdHo+ENjwiNeecdSTaq5CYL8= From: Igor Lubashev Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_[quicwg/base-drafts]_Describe_PMTU_probing_that?= =?UTF-8?Q?_includes_source_connection_ID_for_routing_=E2=80=A6_=28#2402=29?= Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c560a5549578_75803ffbb8cd45bc3694be"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: igorlord X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2019 21:23:37 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c560a5549578_75803ffbb8cd45bc3694be Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I tend to agree. Yet, the described method is what was determined at Kista to be the best way. I am happy to rewrite using a special long header packet type, if the wg decides to pivot toward that. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2402#issuecomment-460000272 ----==_mimepart_5c560a5549578_75803ffbb8cd45bc3694be Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I tend to agree. Yet, the described method is what was determined at Kista to be the best way. I am happy to rewrite using a special long header packet type, if the wg decides to pivot toward that.

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Specification says that endpoint should provide new connection ID when it sees unused connection ID in the received packet or remote endpoint retires a connection ID.
Because remote endpoint can use any received connection ID without retiring any connection IDs, and local endpoint has to provide new connection ID when it sees these events and must accept any connection ID not retired yet, the number of connection ID which local endpoint has to remember is effectively unbounded.

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----==_mimepart_5c564f6c68ae3_34243fcb464d45bc63125b-- From nobody Sat Feb 2 22:17:43 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD901130F20 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2019 22:17:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.935 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.935 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dWfUL4IrTmMl for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2019 22:17:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 00DCF130F1F for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2019 22:17:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2019 22:17:38 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549174658; bh=WglF4FaDyFjgVDmqu5P8dJH1fwtQ6Mjz+v4o2kMrk/0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ppLTeSRkpJdPv6OBNqsYcZRK+JSn1+E2fN/fJgUzD6691hKcyxhfR1aJjSGwJE1+4 qnAJVvJCuUAkzdo9TfqzpIAL2Gl45oqwcqcIuo5vZo0Wx14q4n60bZkJervIO5aRmQ 6fHzaZiCJWroWrlfs25xg9ZtIvrL/f83kKKlpKBs= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] The number of Connection ID is unbounded to NEW_CONNECTION_ID sender (#2403) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c568782279e0_79853faf198d45c0965475"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2019 06:17:42 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c568782279e0_79853faf198d45c0965475 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit See #1994 -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2403#issuecomment-460026612 ----==_mimepart_5c568782279e0_79853faf198d45c0965475 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

See #1994

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----==_mimepart_5c568782279e0_79853faf198d45c0965475-- From nobody Sat Feb 2 22:35:44 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F4F130F27 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2019 22:35:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.935 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.935 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VHZVvqRtQlmq for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2019 22:35:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5CE74130F1F for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2019 22:35:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2019 22:35:40 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549175740; bh=Od5xxnWdJbDKw59Obt93UBQNPzwPjol9WVkp5SwgEMA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=HIZN7O/SMZvW9tEuBe1xMh4Zb1346BB2W37RKma7zZ2/YyVi3OBQJtnz+3LjpQE7t EL8kj81dEV6qKr4K8A02hjWCbAw626KoRG1ylN8nj08VtDEa8sxc7cZKyLkTGBPplh gHAo44wy8fvllzbUfX3x/+J1fXprEa8k6yeXGFMQ= From: Tatsuhiro Tsujikawa Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] The number of Connection ID is unbounded to NEW_CONNECTION_ID sender (#2403) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c568bbc4a985_5d2b3faf198d45c097624a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: tatsuhiro-t X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2019 06:35:43 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c568bbc4a985_5d2b3faf198d45c097624a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm not sure #1994 is related to this. But the its resolution might fix this issue. I wait for the outcome of the PR. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2403#issuecomment-460027365 ----==_mimepart_5c568bbc4a985_5d2b3faf198d45c097624a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I'm not sure #1994 is related to this. But the its resolution might fix this issue. I wait for the outcome of the PR.

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----==_mimepart_5c568bbc4a985_5d2b3faf198d45c097624a-- From nobody Sun Feb 3 13:55:57 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C2A21288BD for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2019 13:55:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -12.551 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-12.551 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rSVHOYYorLRA for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2019 13:55:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B4E3312DD85 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2019 13:55:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2019 13:55:51 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549230951; bh=ZOJBNqdkVmo5NHP9N9XenNnN0DeVLIjcQVDd8FtmFdc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=J5LisBq+hJQ34smBaHg/KN4SlvNWbMyspJkU6S3KnlHJISZuxudIEtHz/TUelJcZI 85m0DHczx886VWwX0aOBlay7NXYlK4TmDfvqvAs6MhqHmyPe2+2Xbf5Z55SljQjlV+ bSLbe2dtFIxDbewIhXxbwMWqiirxCxBWmpewxv2M= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spoofed retry token attack on IP authentication (#2394) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c576367172c5_2f73f8c1e2d45bc7561ca"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2019 21:55:55 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c576367172c5_2f73f8c1e2d45bc7561ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a fairly non-interesting attack. I read this as saying that if you can send and receive packets for a given IP address you can make connections from that address. From the perspective of what we can reasonably test, there is no distinction between that and genuinely owning the address. The point about the number of times that Retry tokens can be used is a fine one. Adding a note about expected lifetime of these tokens to [Section 8.1.1](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#validate-retry) is a fine idea. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2394#issuecomment-460092507 ----==_mimepart_5c576367172c5_2f73f8c1e2d45bc7561ca Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

This is a fairly non-interesting attack. I read this as saying that i= f you can send and receive packets for a given IP address you can make co= nnections from that address. From the perspective of what we can reasona= bly test, there is no distinction between that and genuinely owning the a= ddress.

The point about the number of times that Retry tokens can be used is a= fine one. Adding a note about expected lifetime of these tokens to Section 8.1.1 is a fine idea.

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I have a different proposal: allow those that don't depend on this bit to toggle it. That is, if you are certain that you don't need this bit set to 1, set it to 0 occasionally.

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The state exposure for the issuer of connection IDs is the number of N= EW_CONNECTION_ID frames it sends minus the number of RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID= frames it receives (in both cases, excluding any retransmissions). The = design requires that connection IDs be remembered indefinitely, but the n= umber is bounded by how many NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames the endpoint is wil= ling to send.

The resolution to #1994 will allow an endpoint to send fewe= r (or more) than its peer requests.

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Looks mostly fine to me. Besides some minor comments (see below), I think it might be a good idea to add a reference to this section from "12.2. Coalescing Packets". > @@ -3274,6 +3274,22 @@ The considerations for processing ICMP messages in the previous section also apply if these messages are used by DPLPMTUD. +### PMTU Probes Containing Source Connection ID + +Endpoints that rely on the destination connection ID for routing QUIC packets +are likely to require that connection ID included in PMTU probe packets in order +to route resulting ICMP messages ({{icmp-pmtud}}) back to the correct endpoints. + +Only long header packets ({{long-header}}) contain source connection IDs, but +long header packets will not be acknowledged once the connection has been +established. One way to construct a PMTU probe is to coalesce (see +{{packet-coalesce}}) a Handshake packet ({{packet-handshake}}) with a short It might make sense to: * Call the datagram "a probe", rather than referring to the short header packet as "a probe". * it might be better to suggest use of _any_ coalescible long header packet rather than specifically suggesting the use of a Handshake packet. Therefore something like: _One way to construct a PMTU probe is to coalesce a Long header packet with a Length field and a short header packet into a single UDP datagram, If the datagram reaches the endpoint, the short header packet will be acknowledged. If the datagram elicits an ICMP message, that message will likely contain the source connection ID within the quoted portion of the datagram._ -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@kazuho commented on this pull request.

Looks mostly fine to me.

Besides some minor comments (see below), I think it might be a good idea to add a reference to this section from "12.2. Coalescing Packets".

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3274,6 +3274,22 @@ The considerations for processing ICMP messages in the previous section also
 apply if these messages are used by DPLPMTUD.
 
 
+### PMTU Probes Containing Source Connection ID
+
+Endpoints that rely on the destination connection ID for routing QUIC packets
+are likely to require that connection ID included in PMTU probe packets in order
+to route resulting ICMP messages ({{icmp-pmtud}}) back to the correct endpoints.
+
+Only long header packets ({{long-header}}) contain source connection IDs, but
+long header packets will not be acknowledged once the connection has been
+established.  One way to construct a PMTU probe is to coalesce (see
+{{packet-coalesce}}) a Handshake packet ({{packet-handshake}}) with a short

It might make sense to:

  • Call the datagram "a probe", rather than referring to the short header packet as "a probe".
  • it might be better to suggest use of any coalescible long header packet rather than specifically suggesting the use of a Handshake packet.

Therefore something like: One way to construct a PMTU probe is to coalesce a Long header packet with a Length field and a short header packet into a single UDP datagram, If the datagram reaches the endpoint, the short header packet will be acknowledged. If the datagram elicits an ICMP message, that message will likely contain the source connection ID within the quoted portion of the datagram.

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Sorry, but this sounds like a huge hack - coalescing with unused hands= hake packets. It also sounds like it is at risk of being ignored.

My understanding is that the approach is perfectly fine; see what a re= ceiver is supposed to do in section 12.2. OTOH I agree that servers might= be interesting in greasing this feature (by coalescing every 1-RTT packe= t that the server sends with an invalid long header packet, for small por= tion of the connections it handles).

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Changes are:

  • define idle timeout as max(TP.idle_timeout, 3*PTO)
  • skip draining period when idle timeout expires

closes #2347

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2404

Commit Summary

  • idle_timeout = max(3*PTO, TP.idle_timeout), skip draining period

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----==_mimepart_5c57ad9d7b6e1_31db3fd4266d45b81706f0-- From nobody Sun Feb 3 19:21:44 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69648130DC9 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2019 19:21:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -11.149 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-11.149 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id N8IjtQdq0aoj for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2019 19:21:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD4251294FA for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2019 19:21:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2019 19:21:39 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549250499; bh=oSlV2xah8MyBU/0BJJXpnT+RknUWxh41wIjTEw78ZM0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Dze+5aqfggA8tV8ZcwHyS2DmwF/6o8XeN7ZZ6xc/kyC5cCTZkjMcex+JA5CfrTPjv kN/hcgRT+4v/nAVHnjHc32mKHFB8skdSR0OM5KKirVZ/ylxL6gtrKYHAbXk9jH7w5s YqjFxLapZ2TkTxTjI3jT/UZsxV6HagkIFvWmqR+Y= From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] skip draining period in case of idle timeout (#2404) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c57afc345eb1_6ada3fbd906d45c4123868e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2019 03:21:43 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c57afc345eb1_6ada3fbd906d45c4123868e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit marten-seemann commented on this pull request. > @@ -2276,9 +2276,10 @@ source address. ## Idle Timeout {#idle-timeout} -If the idle timeout is enabled, a connection that remains idle for longer than -the advertised idle timeout (see {{transport-parameter-definitions}}) is closed. -A connection enters the draining state when the idle timeout expires. +If the idle timeout is enabled, a connection is closed when it remains idle for +longer than the larger of the advertised idle timeout (see +{{transport-parameter-definitions}}) or three times the current Probe Timeout I don't think this captures your intention of taking the max of these two values. Suggestion: longer than both ... and ... -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2404#pullrequestreview-199428966 ----==_mimepart_5c57afc345eb1_6ada3fbd906d45c4123868e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2276,9 +2276,10 @@ source address.
 
 ## Idle Timeout {#idle-timeout}
 
-If the idle timeout is enabled, a connection that remains idle for longer than
-the advertised idle timeout (see {{transport-parameter-definitions}}) is closed.
-A connection enters the draining state when the idle timeout expires.
+If the idle timeout is enabled, a connection is closed when it remains idle for
+longer than the larger of the advertised idle timeout (see
+{{transport-parameter-definitions}}) or three times the current Probe Timeout

I don't think this captures your intention of taking the max of these two values.
Suggestion: longer than both ... and ...

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2276,9 +2276,10 @@ source address.
 
 ## Idle Timeout {#idle-timeout}
 
-If the idle timeout is enabled, a connection that remains idle for longer than
-the advertised idle timeout (see {{transport-parameter-definitions}}) is closed.
-A connection enters the draining state when the idle timeout expires.
+If the idle timeout is enabled, a connection is closed when it remains idle for
+longer than the larger of the advertised idle timeout (see
+{{transport-parameter-definitions}}) or three times the current Probe Timeout

Makes sense. Made the change in 9a27782 as well as consolidating the description of what to do when the timer expires.

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To add to this, I think the fundamental design (which, admittedly, a T= P confuses a bit) is that the issuer should issue (and maintain with new = ones when retired) as many connection IDs as it=E2=80=99s willing to main= tain state for.

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So, if the consumer of the CIDs uses all the new ones and doesn=E2=80=99= t retire them, it will eventually run out of new ones to use.

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My understanding of the suggestion to replenish when a new one is obse= rved is simply to lower the chance of having the consumer of the CIDs run= out while RETIRE_ frames are in flight (or potentially lost). If the iss= uer is already at the max they=E2=80=99re willing to maintain, then only = issue new ones when old ones are retired. The associated assumption here = is that a consumer would not be advised to retire all CIDs at the same ti= me.

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The resolution to #2101 was that you can't retire a connection ID in a packet using that CID, which prevents retiring all of them.

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That could work. It comes down to whether the WG thinks the QUIC bit is a bug or feature, as well as whether enough people will toggle it that it won't be ossified anyway.

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----==_mimepart_5c57d566bd18_4bbe3fd1182d45b4174356-- From nobody Sun Feb 3 22:23:38 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE3D7130E0A for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2019 22:23:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -11.149 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-11.149 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id M4bx70Odhi0d for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2019 22:23:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC3271294FA for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2019 22:23:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2019 22:23:32 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549261412; bh=ns1udGBQkG88eHQARFyvMS85rvMT7JyVUA937CpgGOU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=I2TDT3Jla/mpKEXM82G/pU6MZUQRQYoxhlNG1WHWV+3QT2rU7FzQm/X8ib6uZHIHT meV4LDeMXt001zN4etkI2TtqRARnr8+mWVZSme0st1+qAWJYD9B/1xuCSspE6ShR6E 7EaAtA+ImIzlgV8+JD/wxwYT8XfAXBWH7Yy3PwCI= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] VN packets may be dropped more often when the QUIC bit is 0 (#2400) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c57da64bacbc_338b3feed5ed45b41375fd"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2019 06:23:36 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c57da64bacbc_338b3feed5ed45b41375fd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @ianswett I like how you frame the issue. I think that the QUIC bit should either be defined in the invariants draft, or should be greased to avoid it getting ossified. And my weak preference goes to greasing the bit, so that we could have maximum flexibility in the future versions of QUIC. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2400#issuecomment-460142907 ----==_mimepart_5c57da64bacbc_338b3feed5ed45b41375fd Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@ianswett I like how you frame the issue.

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= ----==_mimepart_5c57da64bacbc_338b3feed5ed45b41375fd-- From nobody Sun Feb 3 22:47:48 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AB6A1294FA for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2019 22:47:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -11.149 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-11.149 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pQhQQ59VwRn9 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2019 22:47:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ECD6A126CC7 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2019 22:47:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2019 22:47:42 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549262862; bh=6zv+3Ro8n47ExflKZAMAPPNdTa1IW81N5j65ENzWoJ0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=MoLKZEQsxMIz+pCBMWRAF/cA9iRSg0LSPFBLvkrK26ALj+aa0zSxx1I6C1rnVVDJT chc04BC4D0O4RvjefzPkM556jl+2ntwg02fH2ODD/vCmF51C/HgdHtpf46gFrkHnO3 NJjAsYfMiUL5y/so9Mn9ZbAdN+qvfkEeC+FdLhD8= From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] loss recovery description mixes variables depending on the packet number space and packet numbers independent of it (#2405) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c57e00ea31c2_339e3feed5ed45b41939c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2019 06:47:46 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c57e00ea31c2_339e3feed5ed45b41939c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [Section 6.5.2](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-recovery.html#rfc.section.6.5.2) lists the variables used by the loss recovery algorithm. Some of these variables are independent of the packet number space, e.g. `crypto_count`, `*rtt*.` Other variables apply per packet number space, and we say so explicitly, e.g. `largest_acked_packet`. Then there are a lot of variables that should be applied per packet number space, but we never say so explicitly, e.g. `sent_packets`, `loss_time`, etc. The same applies to the pseudo code itself, for example `DetectLostPackets` uses both variables that only apply to one packet number space as well as variables that apply independent of the packet number space. One way to resolve this would be to index the variables by their respective packet number space. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2405 ----==_mimepart_5c57e00ea31c2_339e3feed5ed45b41939c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Section 6.5.2 lists the variables used by the loss recovery algorithm.
Some of these variables are independent of the packet number space, e.g. crypto_count, *rtt*.
Other variables apply per packet number space, and we say so explicitly, e.g. largest_acked_packet.
Then there are a lot of variables that should be applied per packet number space, but we never say so explicitly, e.g. sent_packets, loss_time, etc.

The same applies to the pseudo code itself, for example DetectLostPackets uses both variables that only apply to one packet number space as well as variables that apply independent of the packet number space.

One way to resolve this would be to index the variables by their respective packet number space.

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I'm labeling this editorial, since the pseudocode isn't intended to be normative, but it's also a bit of work to fix, unfortunately.

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I mostly agree, although there might be some non-editorial parts to it= .
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Closes #1638.

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A client that migrates to a new address SHOULD use a preferred address from the same address family for the server. +## Use of IPv6 Flow-Label and Migration {#ipv6-flow-label} + +Endpoints that send data using IPv6 SHOULD apply an IPv6 flow label +in compliance with {{!RFC6437}}, unless the local API does not allow +setting this parameter. + +The IPv6 flow label SHOULD be a pseudo-random function of the source +and destination addresses, source and destination UDP ports, and the destination +CID. The flow label generation MUST be designed to minimize the chances of +linkability with a previously used flow label, as this would enable correlating +activity on multiple paths (see {{migration-linkability}}). + +A possible implementation is to compute the flow label as a one way ```suggestion A possible implementation is to compute the flow label as a one-way ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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A couple of suggestions.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2110,19 +2110,10 @@ infrequently.
 
 Endpoints that use connection IDs with length greater than zero could have their
 activity correlated if their peers keep using the same destination connection ID
-after migration. Endpoints that receive packets with a previously unused
-Destination Connection ID SHOULD change to sending packets with a connection ID
-that has not been used on any other network path.  The goal here is to ensure
-that packets sent on different paths cannot be correlated. To fulfill this
-privacy requirement, endpoints that initiate migration and use connection IDs
-with length greater than zero SHOULD provide their peers with new connection IDs
-before migration.
-
-Caution:
-
-: If both endpoints change connection ID in response to seeing a change in
-  connection ID from their peer, then this can trigger an infinite sequence of
-  changes.
+after migration.  The goal is to ensure that packets sent on different

This is a bit awkward. Suggested rewrite:
"after migration. To ensure that packets sent on different paths cannot be correlated, such endpoints SHOULD provide their peers with new connection IDs before migration."

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2110,19 +2110,10 @@ infrequently.
 
 Endpoints that use connection IDs with length greater than zero could have their

This is not part of your PR, but suggested change: "Endpoints that supply non-zero-length connection IDs ..."

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I'm a bit concerned that relying on greasing is wishful thinking, here and elsewhere. Mostly this has been bypassed with header protection. All it takes is one dominant implementation to be lazy about it. Think older IE browsers vs. standards.

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They don't have a length field, so the only place they could go is at the end of a packet.
As the spec currently stands, it's valid to send a packet like this.

There's little value in doing that. Do we want to continue to allow this?

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@larseggert approved this pull request.

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Can we give an example of a suitable one-way has function?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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 validation is complete.=0D
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Simply moves all pseudocode to appendix, with no changes to text, except for the addition of a single sentence at the beginning of the appendices. Subsequent PRs will clean each part up.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2408

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----==_mimepart_5c582339d5fd2_6bef3fbf424d45b81137bf-- From nobody Mon Feb 4 04:24:02 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C2AA128766 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 04:24:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -11.149 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-11.149 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PVxkEpT9Hq6I for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 04:23:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 896A61277BB for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 04:23:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2019 04:23:57 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549283037; bh=8GSVWvDT+CDXvNmHgOE+6UHEciDD5a2Wr3ZH3WRerG8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=XyJOjowPZA/D+W7ZxMW56VSG5LDXW3zbnnQqBNd7BiVRjsmptvpv7j2v3bgX5sLS1 gybrrk7EIAYz6hssHeBZzk60xK/5FBGZvQl1SVweHTK1A/zbYSO0xc0wYVrD0KA6/n 4qWNhRWnx1/c5yGP8ODLAMKYUA/6oOzn8m6uRQdg= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Can VN and Retry packets be coalesced? (#2407) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c582edd128b_47143fc9c9ad45bc2338e9"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2019 12:24:00 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c582edd128b_47143fc9c9ad45bc2338e9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My understanding is that they are implicitly forbidden, because coalescin= g packets belonging to different connections are forbidden, and because t= here=E2=80=99s nothing to coalesce with when either of the two types of t= he packets is sent.=0D =0D I am not sure if we need to be more clear on that, considering the fact w= e generally use MAY for the discarding rules for coalesced packets.=0D =0D -- =0D You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.=0D Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub:=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2407#issuecomment-460230824= ----==_mimepart_5c582edd128b_47143fc9c9ad45bc2338e9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

My understanding is that they are implicitly forbidden, because coales= cing packets belonging to different connections are forbidden, and becaus= e there=E2=80=99s nothing to coalesce with when either of the two types o= f the packets is sent.

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If server can stop sending NEW_CONNECTION_ID, it surely fixes this issue= .
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= ----==_mimepart_5c583b5349c10_2e833f8b4a4d45bc51363f-- From nobody Mon Feb 4 05:49:13 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A905A12896A for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 05:49:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -12.553 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-12.553 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1WE3JSzEwwwV for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 05:49:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 60550127B4C for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 05:49:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2019 05:49:07 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549288147; bh=J2aDBU1xP0AZ3BpNkkrol6Su7TEdtsSW2wKRa2Bjqe8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=GT6j84++nyYmLVVYJeu/RnidSp7LKP5DTe8lGcaFcBLrHEPWgv1aJxrHOfICtMr50 CYzldHdKVtFHd/kK2ToZVSYz5+Muys7YoDZTZy0H+6vQEUVUtOvFQDyMp4QzrB/VYC D/+yNnuonGug22UBFp+ENwy87vpSm4OjmLmoYCKg= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] The number of Connection ID is unbounded to NEW_CONNECTION_ID sender (#2403) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c5842d3ce664_4cce3f956a6d45b85856cf"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2019 13:49:12 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c5842d3ce664_4cce3f956a6d45b85856cf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @tatsuhiro-t > The problem of current wording is that server MUST send NEW_CONNECTION_ID when it sees unused connection ID. Isn't it a SHOULD? I ask this, because I see the following text in [section 5.1.1 of the transport draft]( https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#rfc.section.5.1.1): _An endpoint SHOULD ensure that its peer has a sufficient number of available and unused connection IDs. While each endpoint independently chooses how many connection IDs to issue, endpoints SHOULD provide and maintain at least eight connection IDs._ Having that said, I think I agree that we have an issue. The minimum length of CID is 32 bits, based on the assumption that the space is capable of supporting multiple connections across certain time-space (remember the fact that CID cannot be reused more frequently than updating the secret used to calculate stateless reset tokens). OTOH, we do not prohibit (or discourage) endpoints from updating the CID aggressively. For example, an endpoint might try to use a new CID whenever one is available in order to achieve "maximum privacy." That would mean that it would consume ~8 CIDs per round-trip, and in case the RTT is 10ms, it would be consuming around 216 CIDs every minute. I do not think we would like to see clients being such aggressive against a server that tries to use minimally-size CIDs. Therefore, I think we should discourage endpoints from changing CIDs when it is likely that it's tuple is stable. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2403#issuecomment-460255684 ----==_mimepart_5c5842d3ce664_4cce3f956a6d45b85856cf Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@tatsuhiro-t

The problem of current wording is that server MUST send NEW_CONNECTION= _ID when it sees unused connection ID.

Isn't it a SHOULD?

I ask this, because I see the following text in section 5.1.1 of the transport draft: An endpoint S= HOULD ensure that its peer has a sufficient number of available and unuse= d connection IDs. While each endpoint independently chooses how many conn= ection IDs to issue, endpoints SHOULD provide and maintain at least eight= connection IDs.

Having that said, I think I agree that we have an issue.

The minimum length of CID is 32 bits, based on the assumption that the= space is capable of supporting multiple connections across certain time-= space (remember the fact that CID cannot be reused more frequently than u= pdating the secret used to calculate stateless reset tokens). OTOH, we do= not prohibit (or discourage) endpoints from updating the CID aggressivel= y.

For example, an endpoint might try to use a new CID whenever one is av= ailable in order to achieve "maximum privacy." That would mean that it wo= uld consume ~8 CIDs per round-trip, and in case the RTT is 10ms, it would= be consuming around 216 CIDs every minute.

I do not think we would like to see clients being such aggressive agai= nst a server that tries to use minimally-size CIDs.

Therefore, I think we should discourage endpoints from changing CIDs w= hen it is likely that it's tuple is stable.

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This is a good start. I expect some of the text in the pseudocode sections will need to move up, but one step at a time.

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----==_mimepart_5c5846a46968d_1753f8f274d45b81687f6-- From nobody Mon Feb 4 06:06:41 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 389BB12896A for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 06:06:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -12.552 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-12.552 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id paANi_07jkOe for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 06:06:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 34317127B4C for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 06:06:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2019 06:06:37 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549289197; bh=bW6ZmMUUc6sfQiIf7ZmBnH8G1+8EAkPvSeDjjP1ht50=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=fDtKTvwZzfLkLJHGUn1o52EszTARyyxrv9/TJApkwMQRCf7Hyf2mJIj22w2h6gwQG A3Ul5fGGdQiKu+wOZwlw+D51O12OBtTH0GQtpli26qQWw/E4bII63UMc6yy/bNBxbR 89DNR9sOJkugNbWa59YOMaTdJUBe0tupzykN2rq0= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove requirement for reciprocal connection ID change (#2386) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c5846ed541a6_4d2e3fe3a22d45b8158798"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2019 14:06:40 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c5846ed541a6_4d2e3fe3a22d45b8158798 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ianswett commented on this pull request. > @@ -2110,19 +2110,10 @@ infrequently. Endpoints that use connection IDs with length greater than zero could have their activity correlated if their peers keep using the same destination connection ID -after migration. Endpoints that receive packets with a previously unused -Destination Connection ID SHOULD change to sending packets with a connection ID -that has not been used on any other network path. The goal here is to ensure -that packets sent on different paths cannot be correlated. To fulfill this -privacy requirement, endpoints that initiate migration and use connection IDs -with length greater than zero SHOULD provide their peers with new connection IDs -before migration. - -Caution: - -: If both endpoints change connection ID in response to seeing a change in - connection ID from their peer, then this can trigger an infinite sequence of - changes. +after migration. The goal is to ensure that packets sent on different +1 to Jana's suggestion. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2386#discussion_r253481352 ----==_mimepart_5c5846ed541a6_4d2e3fe3a22d45b8158798 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2110,19 +2110,10 @@ infrequently.
 
 Endpoints that use connection IDs with length greater than zero could have their
 activity correlated if their peers keep using the same destination connection ID
-after migration. Endpoints that receive packets with a previously unused
-Destination Connection ID SHOULD change to sending packets with a connection ID
-that has not been used on any other network path.  The goal here is to ensure
-that packets sent on different paths cannot be correlated. To fulfill this
-privacy requirement, endpoints that initiate migration and use connection IDs
-with length greater than zero SHOULD provide their peers with new connection IDs
-before migration.
-
-Caution:
-
-: If both endpoints change connection ID in response to seeing a change in
-  connection ID from their peer, then this can trigger an infinite sequence of
-  changes.
+after migration.  The goal is to ensure that packets sent on different

+1 to Jana's suggestion.

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I'll make this design then. We can also split this issue in two, but I think it makes sense to try to write a PR and see if there any other changes necessary in the text. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2405#issuecomment-460263632 ----==_mimepart_5c5848b180f5d_45783ff7b24d45c4315565 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Good point. I'll make this design then. We can also split this issue in two, but I think it makes sense to try to write a PR and see if there any other changes necessary in the text.

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VN certainly causes a new connection based on discussions in Tokyo.

Retry does not cause a new connection(ie: same ClientHello).

Clarifying this seems wise if it's not already clear.

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Retry does not cause a new connection(ie: same ClientHello).

Yes, however when a Retry packet is being sent, there's nothing a serv= er can send along with.

Regarding if we need to clarify, while I do not think it's absolutely = necessary, I can see that people might want to have it stated considering= the fact that we do utilize corner case rules of coalesced packets (see = #2402).

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1862,6 +1862,11 @@ NAT rebinding is not connection migration as defined in this section, though an
 endpoint SHOULD perform path validation ({{migrate-validate}}) if it detects a
 change in the IP address of its peer.
 
+When a client finds the server unreachable over any path, the client might close
+its connection to the server (see {{termination}}).  A client capable of
+connection migration MAY wait for new paths to become available before declaring
+the server unreachable.

I think it might make sense to use "endpoint" rather than "client" and "server", because IIUC that's how we talk about connection migration.

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@kazuho You are right, it is SHOULD. I was probably confused by other places of MUST, or cosmic ray affected my browser to display MUST instead of SHOULD.

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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 * idle timeout ({{idle-timeout}})
 * immediate close ({{immediate-close}})
 * stateless reset ({{stateless-reset}})
 
+In addition, an endpoint MAY drop a connection and discard all connection state
+without informing the peer if it is unable to reach the peer.

How about "repeatedly unable to reach the peer." Also, in this case, a connection close packet should still be sent in case the peer can receive packets, but packets it sends cannot reach you.

Also is 'reach the peer' obvious wording?

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"#validate-future" is about tokens issued using a NEW_TOKEN frame.

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  • validation of "Retry" token is discussed in 8.1.3, not 8.1.2

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@mikkelfj commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 * idle timeout ({{idle-timeout}})
 * immediate close ({{immediate-close}})
 * stateless reset ({{stateless-reset}})
 
+In addition, an endpoint MAY drop a connection and discard all connection state
+without informing the peer if it is unable to reach the peer.

I was wondering about this too, but assumed there was a clear definition in an earlier section. Even if you do not get a response, the peer might be able to hear a close. In that context, MAY seems fine.

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Some further info. In H2, malformed request/response causes a stream err= or of type PROTOCOL_ERROR. The H3 draft says:

PROTOCOL_ERROR (0x1):
No single mapping. See new HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME error codes defined in Sect= ion 8.1.

But errors in this category are not caused by a problem with the frames = themselves.

Fortunately, we have H3 HTTP_GENERAL_PROTOCOL_ERROR, which seems like th= e correct thing to use in this case. But nowhere in the draft is this ever = referred to, so its easy to miss.

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= ----==_mimepart_5c5869d5c4316_638e3fd57a6d45b8750f1-- From nobody Mon Feb 4 08:41:12 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63B84130EA7 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 08:41:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -12.552 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-12.552 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hN8DvuHJhpZ4 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 08:41:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6CA4C130EA5 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 08:41:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2019 08:41:08 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549298468; bh=Ddt55DkF5pUrisn/TqKLNF7Ad2Y5NfbxHaagIz3jGJQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=kq0ukVjzxB05f8e/dnfVJ2RQ9iSgM9sc9UBqQCZsrCKrM2mIdv319zIiy6v8z3ZO4 vaxya0nj+E75h9bZi12SOI7ReKh6YP09lTADjQDiD17IKEjvD6gKdVita/qSzGesxa j1CBE64RzckXXnZ6RjgnT5TJHjh3zeKbqME1IbRY= From: Luca Niccolini Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] H3 guidance on malformed request/response is light (#2410) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c586b2473820_60953ff71d6d45bc2729f0"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: lnicco X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2019 16:41:11 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c586b2473820_60953ff71d6d45bc2729f0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FRAME related errors are defined at the end of S8.1. However that is going to change due to #2253 ``` HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME (0x01XX): An error in a specific frame type. The frame type is included as the last byte of the error code. For example, an error in a MAX_PUSH_ID frame would be indicated with the code (0x10D). ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2410#issuecomment-460318985 ----==_mimepart_5c586b2473820_60953ff71d6d45bc2729f0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

FRAME related errors are defined at the end of S8.1.
However that is going to change due to #2253

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= ----==_mimepart_5c586b2473820_60953ff71d6d45bc2729f0-- From nobody Mon Feb 4 09:01:39 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1A00130EA0 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 09:01:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.552 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.552 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, GB_SUMOF=5, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ibOYwrUKKXs9 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 09:01:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 24871130E86 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 09:01:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2019 09:01:33 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549299693; bh=I1K/A7cmcKpuAJRL8+ICsMJHqrwPd8VOxK/nwHz71rg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=hzIf5QuR609RLArWDwXJ2hiX6PFXgHXxjz+sPvo001rLiRpacm7YYH9QDKTFxd85a /tKP4grLmlcPMy2ZeSSzeZQpoNH/b0XyJDpjROSOjnLQ3V+bQAfLxTnH6vYQBzOpVw p+FqbmNrmKUNzv1iw9NbNpnlQrI2Yz343zwCA1pY= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] H3 guidance on malformed request/response is light (#2410) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c586fedbc5c4_16af3f9f54ad45c02481d6"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2019 17:01:37 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c586fedbc5c4_16af3f9f54ad45c02481d6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nice catch! I think I'd prefer using HTTP_GENERAL_PROTOCOL_ERROR or an error code just for this purpose rather than HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME, because this is a framing error in the HTTP semantic layer, rather than an error in a HTTP/3 frame. The issue with using HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME becomes most apparent when the request body is shorter than the sum of DATA frames, and if there is a trailer, the error will be detected when seeing the HEADERS frame. It would be strange to report the issue as HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME(HEADERS) (because it's not an issue with the HEADERS frame), or as HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME(DATA) (because none of the DATA frames that the client sent was malformed. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2410#issuecomment-460326784 ----==_mimepart_5c586fedbc5c4_16af3f9f54ad45c02481d6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Nice catch!

I think I'd prefer using HTTP_GENERAL_PROTOCOL_ERROR or an error code = just for this purpose rather than HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME, because this is a= framing error in the HTTP semantic layer, rather than an error in a HTTP= /3 frame. The issue with using HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME becomes most apparent= when the request body is shorter than the sum of DATA frames, and if the= re is a trailer, the error will be detected when seeing the HEADERS frame= . It would be strange to report the issue as HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME(HEADERS= ) (because it's not an issue with the HEADERS frame), or as HTTP_MALFORME= D_FRAME(DATA) (because none of the DATA frames that the client sent was m= alformed.

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= ----==_mimepart_5c586fedbc5c4_16af3f9f54ad45c02481d6-- From nobody Mon Feb 4 09:10:40 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AFF9130EF5 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 09:10:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -11.149 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-11.149 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rM9anTIskAB3 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 09:10:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5AF5B130EB3 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 09:10:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2019 09:10:31 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549300231; bh=Qk396mlOJSqoTIUB8Zis6gI38kNhAt9YU08pqOxhTfM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=wK+FzzjWa8AcrU2A+bKhRL0s5jy+pH/dvSSAA1ccxbpCsxVws+VX4enulFJDyl7oR AzpqoPSESMIZlFTj2jQmYyBNK+Wux/c8coTregQEKu5VgB4GuMmjFQQOGCp7UVHVUO 2kFeIVHzA3+EHwtnUdLM6J5GOuJAYD5f6VC8wsl0= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] H3 guidance on malformed request/response is light (#2410) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c5872075f654_4ca83fdf176d45bc12984d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2019 17:10:38 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c5872075f654_4ca83fdf176d45bc12984d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit PS. and my preference goes to having an error code just for this purpose, named as HTTP_RESPONSE_CANCELLED, or something similar. As a reverse proxy developer, whenever the upstream server closes the response abruptly, I try to forward that error to the client. H2 does not have an error code for that, and we use PROTOCOL_ERROR for that. But the error code misses the fact that the error happened elsewhere than between the client and the server that is using H2, which _is_ confusing. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2410#issuecomment-460330192 ----==_mimepart_5c5872075f654_4ca83fdf176d45bc12984d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

PS. and my preference goes to having an error code just for this purpo= se, named as HTTP_RESPONSE_CANCELLED, or something similar.

As a reverse proxy developer, whenever the upstream server closes the = response abruptly, I try to forward that error to the client. H2 does not= have an error code for that, and we use PROTOCOL_ERROR for that. But the= error code misses the fact that the error happened elsewhere than betwee= n the client and the server that is using H2, which is confusing= .

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Another error that we saw a lot in the early days of H2 deployment was headers fields using mixed-case capitalization. This cannot be attributed to a malformed H3 frame.

I really hope this class of error has been shaken out of systems by now but you never know.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2203,6 +2203,21 @@ address before path validation is complete.
 A client that migrates to a new address SHOULD use a preferred address from the
 same address family for the server.
 
+## Use of IPv6 Flow-Label and Migration {#ipv6-flow-label}
+
+Endpoints that send data using IPv6 SHOULD apply an IPv6 flow label

It is actually per path, not per connection, and is explained in the next paragraph.
@martinthomson suggested replacing "set" by "apply" in a previous comment.

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----==_mimepart_5c58a3b9b1a4_8223f98866d45bc3454b-- From nobody Mon Feb 4 13:04:58 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F2D6126DBF for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 13:04:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -12.553 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-12.553 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lh4hTOuL5dDq for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 13:04:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0DD4C124B0C for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 13:04:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2019 13:04:52 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549314292; bh=2Wj4+MZG7oOWR8IY28M24D5TyvY1duSYqKKr337Tjyo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=p6GYwT2CGARSYsmD4zuRPgZIbKm1rm3ZtZSuM8mWopnJUvVcYILMhJSuxM5Ia3gXa shtCCnmcJAxDSHFYFo12cOdIVwxHcFh/ZQ3Ik6N9vNPs7U+b2bwaP0yosyIqUyBr/w RrXvPfHZH9IB1se9ZZuP6pRDhgcLXXBC/m0AklYI= From: erickinnear Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] The number of Connection ID is unbounded to NEW_CONNECTION_ID sender (#2403) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c58a8f4b7c80_6a7d3fdb906d45c4211489"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: erickinnear X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2019 21:04:56 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c58a8f4b7c80_6a7d3fdb906d45c4211489 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @kazuho Yeah, I don't think that endpoints should necessarily do that, but I'm not sure we need more text or at least that specific recommendation. The issuer is in control of how much it's willing to give out and how much state it's willing to maintain. A consumer that wants to rotate through CIDs that quickly might try regardless of what we recommend, and if the issuer isn't willing to maintain that much state, then at some point it will stop issuing new ones. Since we can no longer retire the last CID, then that just means that the consumer ends up stuck on a single CID. That seems like a reasonable outcome to me. If any new text were necessary, it seems like it would be to expand "only issue how *much* you're willing to maintain" to be "only issue how *much* you're willing to maintain however *often* you're willing to issue it". In other words, it seems like it could be nice to avoid adding more recommendations for consumers that take into account the tuple as well. Folks should be free to change their CID whenever they want, with the understanding that doing excessive things in any direction (requesting too many now that we have a TP, retiring too often, etc.) is gated upon whatever the issuer is willing to support. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2403#issuecomment-460412266 ----==_mimepart_5c58a8f4b7c80_6a7d3fdb906d45c4211489 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@kazuho Yeah, I don't think that endpoints should necessarily d= o that, but I'm not sure we need more text or at least that specific reco= mmendation. The issuer is in control of how much it's willing to give out= and how much state it's willing to maintain. A consumer that wants to ro= tate through CIDs that quickly might try regardless of what we recommend,= and if the issuer isn't willing to maintain that much state, then at som= e point it will stop issuing new ones.

Since we can no longer retire the last CID, then that just means that = the consumer ends up stuck on a single CID. That seems like a reasonable = outcome to me. If any new text were necessary, it seems like it would be = to expand "only issue how much you're willing to maintain" to be= "only issue how much you're willing to maintain however oft= en you're willing to issue it".

In other words, it seems like it could be nice to avoid adding more re= commendations for consumers that take into account the tuple as well. Fol= ks should be free to change their CID whenever they want, with the unders= tanding that doing excessive things in any direction (requesting too many= now that we have a TP, retiring too often, etc.) is gated upon whatever = the issuer is willing to support.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1862,6 +1862,11 @@ NAT rebinding is not connection migration as defined in this section, though an
 endpoint SHOULD perform path validation ({{migrate-validate}}) if it detects a
 change in the IP address of its peer.
 
+When a client finds the server unreachable over any path, the client might close

You need to say what "close" means, I think.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 * idle timeout ({{idle-timeout}})
 * immediate close ({{immediate-close}})
 * stateless reset ({{stateless-reset}})
 
+In addition, an endpoint MAY drop a connection and discard all connection state
+without informing the peer if it is unable to reach the peer.

Maybe instead:

An endpoint MAY discard connection state if it does not have a validated path on which it can send packets.

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I think that all @larseggert was asking for was an example. Even saying "a function based on a cryptographic hash" might help.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3274,6 +3274,22 @@ The considerations for processing ICMP messages in the previous section also
 apply if these messages are used by DPLPMTUD.
 
 
+### PMTU Probes Containing Source Connection ID
+
+Endpoints that rely on the destination connection ID for routing QUIC packets
+are likely to require that connection ID included in PMTU probe packets in order
+to route resulting ICMP messages ({{icmp-pmtud}}) back to the correct endpoints.
+
+Only long header packets ({{long-header}}) contain source connection IDs, but
+long header packets will not be acknowledged once the connection has been
+established.  One way to construct a PMTU probe is to coalesce (see
+{{packet-coalesce}}) a Handshake packet ({{packet-handshake}}) with a short

it might be better to suggest use of any coalescible long header packet rather than specifically suggesting the use of a Handshake packet.

Here are the long header packet types:

  1. Initial.
    I hesitate to use initial, because it is plaintext (no decryption failures) and has an ability to actually create new connections due to unfortunate delays / mis-routing. Load balancer infrastructure may treat them differently from other packets.

  2. 0-rtt.
    These are supposed to be client-to-server only. Having servers send them may be a bit unexpected.

  3. Handshake.
    That's what I picked.

  4. Retry.
    This does not have length, so it is not eligible.

That leaves only Handshake as the best candidate. And one type is enough.

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The 18 spec says:

A MAX_PUSH_ID frame cannot reduce the maximum Push ID; receipt of a MAX_PUSH_ID that contains a smaller value than previously received MUST be treated as a connection error of type HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME.

This feels like another case of an error that isn't strictly a frame error. Its the data inside that is semantically wrong. The connection error severity also seems pretty extreme, and I question if its really needed. I think the appropriate fix is to borrow logic from the Transport's similar MAX_STREAMS frame:

Loss or reordering can cause a MAX_STREAMS frame to be received which
states a lower stream limit than an endpoint has previously received.
MAX_STREAMS frames which do not increase the stream limit MUST be
ignored.

The proposal therefore is to say that MAX_PUSH_ID can only increase the value, anything else gets ignored.

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----==_mimepart_5c58bb90d23fc_1cd43fc6caed45c41315f3-- From nobody Mon Feb 4 14:53:44 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF7751277D2 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 14:53:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -12.552 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-12.552 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4eNQCXSnPzjk for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 14:53:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1841E127598 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 14:53:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2019 14:53:39 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549320819; bh=8mNEWen41V01IeMQWYCz7d0/T3duC9ItNcrg8/SFKxQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=EidGOe7G+zY3D18J09bN1HaGxpvMru+vHNTNT3DgJXF3ux8FJoQWBtP7pQnmN7Tkp J/nA/YDLmXImVjU5HVtXlsIUS4YN11Q3tqVB/hNQi/2UBkE6cgy5OPQClDcEsFOkZq qr26J8mEhQPH1TS/FMIRwPH5XwnaEqbIY23VdtSw= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] MAX_PUSH_ID: lower-than-previous value conn error seems too severe (#2412) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c58c27392753_2e883fe9586d45bc1895e4"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2019 22:53:43 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c58c27392753_2e883fe9586d45bc1895e4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A connection error is entirely appropriate. The awkward compromise we have in the transport docs exists because there is at least a plausible argument in support of ignoring regressions in limits. There, reordering and retransmission schemes might produce the situation (even if the latter might be somewhere between inadvisable and malicious). Here, the frames appear on a strictly ordered stream with no chance that it is going to be missed. I see no reason to treat this leniently. The error code question I have no opinion on, other than to suggest the application of principles already articulated. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2412#issuecomment-460445798 ----==_mimepart_5c58c27392753_2e883fe9586d45bc1895e4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

A connection error is entirely appropriate. The awkward compromise we= have in the transport docs exists because there is at least a plausible = argument in support of ignoring regressions in limits. There, reordering= and retransmission schemes might produce the situation (even if the latt= er might be somewhere between inadvisable and malicious). Here, the fram= es appear on a strictly ordered stream with no chance that it is going to= be missed. I see no reason to treat this leniently.

The error code question I have no opinion on, other than to suggest th= e application of principles already articulated.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2110,19 +2110,10 @@ infrequently.
 
 Endpoints that use connection IDs with length greater than zero could have their

In reading this, I realized that we are assuming that this assumes that keeping the connection ID is a permissible option. It isn't. I'll file a follow-up.

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[ci skip] From nobody Mon Feb 4 15:07:12 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67252127598 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 15:07:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.553 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.553 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oWw7BWgDv54X for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 15:07:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from o11.sgmail.github.com (o11.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9CC5512426E for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 15:07:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=QSlcQT8yGQltjLinp/y0rHqvVGw=; b=i4mh//09rkQYPNQu 1o0DykPZGMOl3OsEZCpD7j2Gh4leaC0T6dl2A72dKQvvqeLBgXdxSMqfGqW+lioD Xf0Uk4LcMEKmMucClb5G7LnHGBNAS039DWubmzredU5Vo3udBKjKh5wsbU1PwDVk hL6O5NdK1oBxIUIHF5JMIRBELZs= Received: by filter0771p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0771p1las1-3509-5C58C59C-16 2019-02-04 23:07:08.590608669 +0000 UTC m=+605542.765316483 Received: from github-lowworker-b40b5a4.cp1-iad.github.net (unknown [192.30.252.36]) by ismtpd0004p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id wzCTkVKzSBCnkIMXcJnOfQ for ; Mon, 04 Feb 2019 23:07:08.488 +0000 (UTC) Received: from github.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by github-lowworker-b40b5a4.cp1-iad.github.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 754713E0D51 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 15:07:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2019 23:07:08 +0000 (UTC) From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] MAX_PUSH_ID: lower-than-previous value conn error seems too severe (#2412) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c58c59c73545_2e703fb1b44d45b83654d5"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak1xi441iaTMTUXfCaOIsRZ1VliN95EdRpEKJF qm9e/MtJLi5XFao4uIkaBz7nIW6VYENzrJxzp8SytZjdrems1BPKXyoNXBzTXZWoBBSjducxReECqM FoV7lwwDjh/O9qva/CZOYiQDKw3fLRpKvW9AoXenoUcW3YK/0P6rbkx9xEYZNzU85RwGiuEL5TQbVa E= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2019 23:07:11 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c58c59c73545_2e703fb1b44d45b83654d5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I see your point of view. The downside is that the client application layer= needs to coordinate its sending of this frame to ensure the sequence is st= rictly growing - this constrains some of the design choices an implementati= on might choose to make. =0D =0D I question the severity because I don't know why a server would get so upse= t by seeing a value that is smaller than it had before. If the server is at= the current max streams amount, it is unable to generate pushes until some= thing increases the max. 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I see your point of view. The downside is that the client application la= yer needs to coordinate its sending of this frame to ensure the sequence is= strictly growing - this constrains some of the design choices an implement= ation might choose to make.

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I question the severity because I don't know why a server would get so u= pset by seeing a value that is smaller than it had before. If the server is= at the current max streams amount, it is unable to generate pushes until s= omething increases the max. What could possibly go wrong? =E2=84=A2=EF=B8=8F I don't want = to fall into the trap of justifying ever decision but this one is not reson= ating with me probably because I am missing something.

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This was originally an editorial factoring of text, but I guess it needs to be a design issue now. Closes #2413. 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In fixing #2145, I discovered that we don't actually mandate this. It's a privacy requirement that I thought we had previously agreed to, but it appears as though we missed capturing it properly.

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----==_mimepart_5c58c69c4b201_53923fc4b10d45c0293131-- From nobody Mon Feb 4 15:12:46 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A0CA127598 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 15:12:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.553 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.553 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id t-E3whbwZvOK for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 15:12:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from o6.sgmail.github.com (o6.sgmail.github.com [192.254.113.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 093A912426E for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 15:12:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=U53Y63PS0zCLDYC7DM6EPDsJDtE=; b=M4k1QLF41kmTv/b9 eWKfPgtZKc1BPKTsjNC+Tk6bkONA2RU+xZgzdYoYn0ihgB2AXQMrngZPLktBAah1 Fm+JTz1SSLP8NJhZjek24h1xUSzcmChFUr6UYsl/m5E4JG9w89ckD/AXj1O8xjbQ wQknnDLLkDvlygJ5S2prjKf7UsI= Received: by filter0807p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0807p1las1-6150-5C58C6EA-5 2019-02-04 23:12:42.159759114 +0000 UTC m=+230857.252473541 Received: from github-lowworker-baaab27.cp1-iad.github.net (unknown [192.30.252.33]) by ismtpd0016p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id P-_A7W23QI6B8HDbFC9-mg for ; Mon, 04 Feb 2019 23:12:42.019 +0000 (UTC) Received: from github.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by github-lowworker-baaab27.cp1-iad.github.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D424803FC for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 15:12:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2019 23:12:42 +0000 (UTC) From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] New connection IDs are mandatory for intentional migration (#2414) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c58c6eabc31_16373ff8462d45b412479a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak0sEXIIdgL32EBYl122e0wZdw67bqOkiKLWRf RqhKgQbEOSEPsOaM3snm4fWpgFSqzO/gh0FMoUPcdp06a8ggX/GLJ5Xqw+VGr9XdTVAFKpBaIkVdbs v5NQjPI76NlQnB4MiHuagNz6ysstq3INvqRhok1TCfBc3x20WrSRpyxw7e72saFcvGft9CPI5+sOK9 U= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2019 23:12:45 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c58c6eabc31_16373ff8462d45b412479a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Based on #2386, which should merge soon. Closes #2413. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2414 -- Commit Summary -- * Remove requirement for reciprocal connection ID change * remove redundant word * Editorial changes * New connection IDs are mandatory for intentional migration -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (35) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2414.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2414.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2414 ----==_mimepart_5c58c6eabc31_16373ff8462d45b412479a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Based on #2386, which should merge soon.

Closes #2413.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2414

Commit Summary

  • Remove requirement for reciprocal connection ID change
  • remove redundant word
  • Editorial changes
  • New connection IDs are mandatory for intentional migration

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[ci skip] From nobody Mon Feb 4 15:37:14 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2302F129A87 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 15:37:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -11.149 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-11.149 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lOaXskEjQpHh for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 15:37:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7CFAF129508 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 15:37:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2019 15:37:09 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549323429; bh=1lRsiEDYcNvKA5j19x565EW4zE+A8V8PUinQZ7F2CBY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=xL3wejuq6ERstqipUAfn9S3M6EqQFUC8dLXaCNf2IkWLGhX4c84KH5SWOCrAzbVt9 8pY/gUcA82T3pPaApBF00VScbNVlW0yszrIEdK3AW+gqWdmPQzbwIYq30Dl1KfTECf IyB3SFMYynmPsMf4HamIMNXvdamRYuf8ou6gSKGo= From: Igor Lubashev Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Mandate using a new connection ID on migration (#2413) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c58cca5335de_b5d3ffcc80d45bc7972b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: igorlord X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2019 23:37:12 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c58cca5335de_b5d3ffcc80d45bc7972b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I do not think it is wise to prohibit connection migration, when there are no available connection IDs. This is something that the client is fully capable of deciding for itself -- to migrate using an old connection ID or to reconnect instead. I would go with MUST use, if there is one available. Otherwise, privacy-conscious clients SHOULD reconnect. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2413#issuecomment-460457005 ----==_mimepart_5c58cca5335de_b5d3ffcc80d45bc7972b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I do not think it is wise to prohibit connection migration, when there= are no available connection IDs. This is something that the client is f= ully capable of deciding for itself -- to migrate using an old connection= ID or to reconnect instead. I would go with MUST use, if there is one a= vailable. Otherwise, privacy-conscious clients SHOULD reconnect.

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It looks like it=E2=80=99s been moved around a lot, but 5.1.2 says

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As discussed in Section 9.5, each connection ID MUST be used on packet= s sent from only one local address. An endpoint that migrates away from a= local address SHOULD retire all connection IDs used on that address once= it no longer plans to use that address.

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Historically, that=E2=80=99s been under the CID sections, not the migr= ation sections, which made it kind of hard for me to dig up.

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Re the proposed diff:

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An endpoint that exhausts available connection IDs can only
=0D migrate if the peer chooses to use receive packets with zero-length conne= ction
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Does that conflict at all with the below text in 5.1?

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An endpoint whose peer has selected a zero-length connection ID MUST c= ontinue to use a zero-length connection ID for the lifetime of the connec= tion and MUST NOT send packets from any other local address.

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Thanks for finding that @erickinnear. That supports the = change being editorial-only.

As for the perceived conflict, yeah, the text is not ideal. I'll find= some way to reword it. Perhaps by observing that you can never run out = of zero-length connection IDs.

@igorlord, allowing a peer to exhaust connection IDs to ma= intain linkability across migrations is an attack that I'd rather we not = have.

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What is the thinking behind RESET_STREAM only applying to the send side of a bidirectional stream? What use case says "never mind about what I'm sending you, but please keep sending to me" within the same stream context? I ask because this is a break from the HTTP/2-TCP world and I'm not sure we fully understand its properties. In particular, this divergence is uncomfortable for proxying HTTP/3 for HTTP/1 and HTTP/2 servers. If the HTTP/3 client sends a RESET_STREAM, what is the proper semantic to translate to the HTTP/2 side? An HTTP/2 RESET_STREAM will kill both directions, which seems like a problem in the general case. We can FIN the H/2 stream, but is that communicating the correct semantic to the application? Similarly, if we get a STOP_SENDING, what's the correct translation? Zeroing out receive flow control on the HTTP/2 stream? More generally, a future (non-HTTP) proxy use case might map QUIC streams to some protocol over individual TCP connections. This has the same problem: FIN maps nicely to TCP FIN, but RESET_STREAM and STOP_SENDING both have to use TCP RST somehow. Maybe the answer is that fronting non-QUIC/H3 protocols implies that STOP_SENDING and RESET_STREAM have to go together. Would that break stuff? I can see a few cases where it might be optimal to be able to flush only one direction of queues, but wonder if this is worth the added semantic confusion, and the bandwidth cost of having to send RESET_STREAM in both directions. We need to get a "final length" in both directions to keep the flow control accounting right, but that could be declared by the receiver. I'm not sure what specific recommendation to make here, but am curious about everyone's thoughts. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Apologies for the lateness of the issue, but I only recently realized I was doing it wrong.

What is the thinking behind RESET_STREAM only applying to the send side of a bidirectional stream? What use case says "never mind about what I'm sending you, but please keep sending to me" within the same stream context?

I ask because this is a break from the HTTP/2-TCP world and I'm not sure we fully understand its properties. In particular, this divergence is uncomfortable for proxying HTTP/3 for HTTP/1 and HTTP/2 servers.

If the HTTP/3 client sends a RESET_STREAM, what is the proper semantic to translate to the HTTP/2 side? An HTTP/2 RESET_STREAM will kill both directions, which seems like a problem in the general case. We can FIN the H/2 stream, but is that communicating the correct semantic to the application?

Similarly, if we get a STOP_SENDING, what's the correct translation? Zeroing out receive flow control on the HTTP/2 stream?

More generally, a future (non-HTTP) proxy use case might map QUIC streams to some protocol over individual TCP connections. This has the same problem: FIN maps nicely to TCP FIN, but RESET_STREAM and STOP_SENDING both have to use TCP RST somehow.

Maybe the answer is that fronting non-QUIC/H3 protocols implies that STOP_SENDING and RESET_STREAM have to go together. Would that break stuff?

I can see a few cases where it might be optimal to be able to flush only one direction of queues, but wonder if this is worth the added semantic confusion, and the bandwidth cost of having to send RESET_STREAM in both directions. We need to get a "final length" in both directions to keep the flow control accounting right, but that could be declared by the receiver.

I'm not sure what specific recommendation to make here, but am curious about everyone's thoughts.

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This is a great example of something that would be better on the maili= ng list.

The reason for the split is to ensure that the state machine is consis= tent and synchronized. Cancellation of a stream requires RESET_STREAM in= both directions to ensure that the flow control state doesn't get out of= sync. We discussed attaching a value to STOP_SENDING, but that creates = difficult conflicts if one side sends STOP_SENDING and the other sends RE= SET_STREAM concurrently. We also don't insist on STOP_SENDING being tran= smitted reliably. In other words, just fixing this would be a massive ch= ange.

It also exists to provide for cases in HTTP where one side of a flow (= typically a request) isn't needed. Consider a large POST to a resource t= hat has been removed. The server can send STOP_SENDING and a 404 respons= e without fear that the 404 will be shredded.

All of that has been litigated at some length.

The problem here is in mapping to protocols that have inconsistently i= mplemented or non-existent half-closed states. That would be TCP for the= former and HTTP/2 for the latter. My inclination would be thus:

RESET_STREAM only =3D stop forwarding data in that direction, and reco= rd this state
STOP_SENDING only =3D stop forwarding data in that direction, and record = this state
RESET_STREAM in both directions or RESET_STREAM and STOP_SENDING from the= same peer =3D kill the flow, using things like h2 RST_STREAM or TCP RST<= /p>

I don't think that this implies that RESET_STREAM and STOP_SENDING hav= e to be bundled.

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allowing a peer to exhaust connection IDs to maintain linkability acro= ss migrations is an attack that I'd rather we not have.

I'd not worry about the peer. But I would, indeed, worry about a man-o= n-a-side exhausting your reserve of connection IDs by pretending to initi= ate peer migration events. So this is a valid concern.

Of course, a violation of this MUST is indistinguishable from NAT rebi= nding/tethering migration and thus is not detectable by the peer. So thi= s MUST is really just a recommendation. It is a fine recommendation.

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I agree with @igorlord here. In Tokyo we decided we want to avoid MUSTs that can't be enforced, and in this case it's reasonable for some clients to value migration over non-linkability when they run out of CIDs.

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Given this is delivered in order on the control stream, requiring it never decrease seems sensible.

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The reason the second bit was fixed to 1 in QUICv1 was to allow multip= lexing with other protocols. Greasing it would defeat that and would caus= e problems with some Google servers that use it for demultiplexing. Given= that these demultiplexing concerns are unlikely to go away, it does make= sense to add it to the invariants.

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= ----==_mimepart_5c58e0525e829_5d543fc3fb2d45c01130aa-- From nobody Mon Feb 4 17:40:31 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD9E5130F23 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 17:40:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -12.553 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-12.553 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fKz0BUzf9fRG for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 17:40:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A037F12D4E7 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 17:40:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2019 17:40:26 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549330826; bh=zYQQAxj6Dfi4K5HQkkIh5eyWERRReclNPiX0KWfqZTg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=p/q3htktEiP4EvpLdYS88jvi+S+8913oAqd6MGSVysTAYAIUWSaxyY1RgCuraOqmi pnFp1YO6qH38/4baO+44+P5O0CzQ2ieWXx39LffXPm1b6TqjHyvysT4wC5yL6ezUJ3 bm9pXxB/8gp19mcVhJ0/Q9M2MNuYwiG9DBO2KvXk= From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] MAX_PUSH_ID: lower-than-previous value conn error seems too severe (#2412) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c58e98a3a54a_18fa3ff8db8d45b434774"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2019 01:40:30 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c58e98a3a54a_18fa3ff8db8d45b434774 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So the hypothetical implementation I have in mind is a client that receives pushes that can be processed independently. In some edge cases, pushes may have mixed use of static and dynamic tables. Static-only pushes can make progress without reliance on QPACK stream(s) progressing. I might set up a handling chain for a single push that does something like "when complete, send MAX_PUSH_ID with value current push ID + 1". There may be cases where this leads to a lower limit being sent. Another edge case is naive handling of CANCEL_PUSH when it is sent by the server. A client that wants to maintain a number of concurrent pushes needs to update MAX_PUSH_ID pretty quick, and a simple way to do this is to read the Push ID out of CANCEL_PUSH and increment by 1. Again this may cause a lower limit being sent. One solution to these problems is, on the client side, to track the high water mark of Push ID and only emit a MAX_PUSH_ID frame that increases the high water mark. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2412#issuecomment-460482554 ----==_mimepart_5c58e98a3a54a_18fa3ff8db8d45b434774 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

So the hypothetical implementation I have in mind is a client that rec= eives pushes that can be processed independently. In some edge cases, pus= hes may have mixed use of static and dynamic tables. Static-only pushes c= an make progress without reliance on QPACK stream(s) progressing. I might= set up a handling chain for a single push that does something like "when= complete, send MAX_PUSH_ID with value current push ID + 1". There may be= cases where this leads to a lower limit being sent.

Another edge case is naive handling of CANCEL_PUSH when it is sent by = the server. A client that wants to maintain a number of concurrent pushes= needs to update MAX_PUSH_ID pretty quick, and a simple way to do this is= to read the Push ID out of CANCEL_PUSH and increment by 1. Again this ma= y cause a lower limit being sent.

One solution to these problems is, on the client side, to track the hi= gh water mark of Push ID and only emit a MAX_PUSH_ID frame that increases= the high water mark.

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Don't you need a synchronization point when it comes to putting the bytes in the stream buffer anyway?

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Yes, but whether that synchronisation point coordinates based on H3 fr= ames or simply STREAM data seems like an implementation detail. I.e. I ca= ll frame.to_bytes() and then feed that to my transport library API.

The upside to doing limit increase cleverly on the client, is that you= open the opportunity to aggregate push limit increments. I.e. send one f= rame that increments by a single larger value.

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When a reverse proxy forwards a HTTP response to the client, sometimes it sees the upstream server terminate the response early. For example, a HTTP/1.1 connection being closed prior to transmitting number of bytes specified by the content-length field. Or a chunked response being closed abruptly.

The only way of delegating such a condition to the client in HTTP/2 was to send a RST_STREAM frame with PROTOCOL_ERROR. However, use of the error code is awkward in this case, considering the fact that the error did not happen within the communication between the endpoints using the particular HTTP/2 connection.

I think it makes sense to have an error code that better designates the case.

One way to address the issue in H3 would be to change HTTP_REQUEST_CANCELLED to HTTP_MESSAGE_CANCELLED, and let the server use the error code (as an argument of the RESET_STREAM frame) to indicate that the response has been "cancelled".

Originally proposed in
#2410 (comment).

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This is an ongoing attempt to resolve #2405.
In the current state this PR is nowhere near complete, but I hope it gets the discussion going about the necessary changes. I will update it accordingly.

So far, this PR makes the following changes:

  • makes it explicit that the variables largest_sent_packet, largest_acked_packet and sent_packets are kept for every packet number space. By indexing these variables with their respective packet number space, we can immediately see where we need to pass a packet number space variable around,
  • makes it explicit that OnPacketAcked and DetectLostPackets are packet-number-space dependent,
  • I realized that loss_time would also apply to every packet number space, if we didn't have special treatment for crypto packets. Since we have that, we never run early retransmit for crypto packets, so loss_time only applies to the 1-RTT packet number space.
    • I'm not sure if is this a bug or a feature. The only way to declare crypto packets lost now is using the crypto timer. Contrary to what we say in the text, this is less aggressive than the logic we use for packets sent after completion of the handshake.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2417

Commit Summary

  • update the pseudo code to include packet number spaces

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If you have a dedicated allowance for a probe packet, that is much eas= ier to deal with because you know the context is the same is for the shor= t headers.

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HTTP_MESSAGE_CANCELLED would simply mean that the transfer of the response is cancelled, regardless of the server being an origin or a reverse proxy.

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----==_mimepart_5c5936b2d4a36_35293f94938d45c02933c-- From nobody Mon Feb 4 23:26:16 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE939130DEC for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 23:26:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -12.552 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-12.552 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yQ6Fvl-OhRWV for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 23:26:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 653A6130E09 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 23:26:11 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2019 23:26:10 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549351570; bh=MAKoGtxTlB+t1LUpwjabrbFwElYS+SPEww1BYhOwE6s=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=tAjE27gpV0jKJXfGsCwj+G7q6uUZdDY2h70RELQfBrpwKfI60OQjxhyZYELItkBut 5CCnllLe5RjlLRrOBflE5CWKxXWfyZLyC5Y9S9McFA9If0meMUXZO1IHzaDmfmWh40 Yy2xnkyWjs2c2Fosh6xam2U91zCFqtzy54IBc9f0= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_[quicwg/base-drafts]_Describe_PMTU_probing_that?= =?UTF-8?Q?_includes_source_connection_ID_for_routing_=E2=80=A6_=28#2402=29?= Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c593a924e818_5b453febd22d45bc443674"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2019 07:26:14 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c593a924e818_5b453febd22d45bc443674 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @mikkelfj > The entire idea about not having long headers post 1-RTT, and to make a note of it, is to allow implementations to focus on short packets only for the reminder of the connection, and dropping all context about separate number spaces etc.. If that stops being the case, all the bootrapping mess comes back to haunt you. > > I'd switch to different packet processor post handshake so there is no ACK special handling etc. The design does not require the receiver to actually handle the long header packet. Simply dropping it is fine, as long as the receiver processes the short header packet that is being coalesced with the long header packet. I understand the fact that you want to have an optimized path for short header packets. That's fine. OTOH, the receiver needs to handle a coalesced datagram that carries various types of long header packets and a 1-RTT packet, at least during the handshake. This is true even if you do not have a corresponding key (e.g. you need to "drop" a 0-RTT packet in a coalesced datagram even when you do not not have the 0-RTT key). Considering that, I am not sure if it a good idea to disable the logic to split coalesced datagram into multiple packets when dropping the Handshake key. Isn't it an additional complexity to disable the logic upon the completion of the handshake? FWIW, the specification currently states: _Every QUIC packet that is coalesced into a single UDP datagram is separate and complete. Though the values of some fields in the packet header might be redundant, no fields are omitted. The receiver of coalesced QUIC packets MUST individually process each QUIC packet and separately acknowledge them, as if they were received as the payload of different UDP datagrams. For example, if decryption fails (because the keys are not available or any other reason), the the receiver MAY either discard or buffer the packet for later processing and MUST attempt to process the remaining packets._ ((section 12.2)[https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#rfc.section.12.2}]). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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The entire idea about not having long headers post 1-RTT, and to make = a note of it, is to allow implementations to focus on short packets only = for the reminder of the connection, and dropping all context about separa= te number spaces etc.. If that stops being the case, all the bootrapping = mess comes back to haunt you.

I'd switch to different packet processor post handshake so there is no= ACK special handling etc.

The design does not require the receiver to actually handle the long h= eader packet. Simply dropping it is fine, as long as the receiver process= es the short header packet that is being coalesced with the long header p= acket.

I understand the fact that you want to have an optimized path for shor= t header packets. That's fine.

OTOH, the receiver needs to handle a coalesced datagram that carries v= arious types of long header packets and a 1-RTT packet, at least during t= he handshake. This is true even if you do not have a corresponding key (e= .g. you need to "drop" a 0-RTT packet in a coalesced datagram even when y= ou do not not have the 0-RTT key).

Considering that, I am not sure if it a good idea to disable the logic= to split coalesced datagram into multiple packets when dropping the Hand= shake key. Isn't it an additional complexity to disable the logic upon th= e completion of the handshake?

FWIW, the specification currently states: Every QUIC packet that i= s coalesced into a single UDP datagram is separate and complete. Though t= he values of some fields in the packet header might be redundant, no fiel= ds are omitted. The receiver of coalesced QUIC packets MUST individually = process each QUIC packet and separately acknowledge them, as if they were= received as the payload of different UDP datagrams. For example, if decr= yption fails (because the keys are not available or any other reason), th= e the receiver MAY either discard or buffer the packet for later processi= ng and MUST attempt to process the remaining packets. ((section 12.2= )[https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#rfc.secti= on.12.2}]).

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Considering that, I am not sure if it a good idea to disable the logic= to split coalesced datagram into multiple packets when dropping the Hand= shake key. Isn't it an additional complexity to disable the logic upon th= e completion of the handshake?

To an extend yes, but if you do care about performance, it can be a si= mplification: You need the core functionality regardless, so it is mostly= function calls to logic that must exist either way. And, it allows you t= o be more lazy performance wise when dealing with the complexities of the= handshake where crypto overhead and low packet count does not make optim= isations worthwhile. This means you can shift that focus to short packets= .

This gets into biblical citations, but ...

Every QUIC packet that is coalesced into a single UDP datagram is sepa= rate and complete.

but it also says that you cannot have multiple connections, and you ca= nnot have long headers post 1-RTT.

Technically you can coalesce a packet "sent" before the packet being c= oalesced, but if you have seen a short header, you can reasonably assume = that any long headers are of no interest and therefore drop processing of= that datagram ASAP.

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Some background that might illustrate why this is feasible: You can at= tach a state machine to connection. Each state has function that is calle= d on new input. Once the state enters short packet state, it can be diffe= rent function from handshake related. So you just look up the CID, and ca= ll a function. The same goes for draining etc.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2089,15 +2089,17 @@ different local addresses, as discussed in {{connection-id}}.  For this to be
 effective endpoints need to ensure that connections IDs they provide cannot be
 linked by any other entity.
 
-This eliminates the use of the connection ID for linking activity from
-the same connection on different networks.  Header protection ensures
-that packet numbers cannot be used to correlate activity.  This does not prevent
-other properties of packets, such as timing and size, from being used to
-correlate activity.
+An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID if it initiates connection migration,

I would move the conditional clause to the beginning, otherwise it's not clear what the "This" in the next sentence refers to.

"Unless the peer has selected a zero-length connection ID, an endpoint MUST use ..."

Also, how about adding something about what the endpoint needs to do if it has nothing from the peer? Something like: "If no new connection IDs are available, the endpoint MUST NOT migrate. The endpoint MAY close the connection, but MUST NOT send any packets on a new path with the same connection ID as that used on an earlier path." I can't find any text that says as much. I wonder if this is a new non-editorial issue, since we currently do not have normative text about this (maybe I just can't find it yet).

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -that packets sent on different paths cannot be correlated. To fulfill this
-privacy requirement, endpoints that initiate migration and use connection IDs
-with length greater than zero SHOULD provide their peers with new connection IDs
-before migration.
-
-Caution:
-
-: If both endpoints change connection ID in response to seeing a change in
-  connection ID from their peer, then this can trigger an infinite sequence of
-  changes.
+An endpoint cannot migrate to a new path if it does not have a connection ID to
+use on that path.  An endpoint that exhausts available connection IDs cannot
+migrate.  If a peer chooses to receive packets with zero-length connection IDs,
+an endpoint can always migrate.  To ensure that migration is possible and
+packets sent on different paths cannot be correlated, endpoints SHOULD provide
+new connection IDs before peers migrate.

This text is good, but still doesn't have normatives, and I think we should have MUST NOT.

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=0D =0D = ----==_mimepart_5c5956d2620f_1efa3f987eed45bc1165cc-- From nobody Tue Feb 5 02:19:56 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4022130E2B for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2019 02:19:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -12.553 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-12.553 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jYuDlCrF5Dht for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2019 02:19:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 81639130E25 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2019 02:19:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2019 02:19:52 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549361992; bh=1bfXHFxwWSARd/ijPgjCRQVUdAlI5xgceNBgf75+iJQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=eBvzt2bUM5BUaU6v8Pizia5u5CBAxEhbQddbDDvbJNBLTTVSrQ0TQUvOM1/oFzfZc IAn9G2VkJL26SHJNB5pj3RqB0wbv5Zz3VrRYqLilKv/R3Crh8T2kyt4QEQT3tl7eR5 uO5W2cHoRp3yj6G7PzWzFCasgFvDAtAje338W+AM= From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Consider a new stream type to act like MAX_PUSH_ID (#2418) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c59634832655_d053f87a2cd45c411072"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2019 10:19:56 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c59634832655_d053f87a2cd45c411072 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This straw man idea stems from the discussion on #2412. Consider defining a new unidirectional stream type for Max Push ID updates. This can be expressed as unframed data: a series of increasing var ints. The use of MAX_PUSH_ID frame is entirely, so using a uni stream is a slightly better fit to the concept. Another reason to consider this approach is that it lends itself to extracting server push into an extension. It provides a pattern for how future extensions could manage themselves without needing to pollute the core control stream. The max Push ID stands out as a connection-level state that has no associated H3 Setting. The reintroduction of an ENABLE_PUSH setting was recently dismissed in Tokyo, for valid reasons. In this proposal, one client initiated unidirectional stream of type "Max Push ID update" may be created by a client as a clear signal of its interest in enabling server push. Push IDs sent on the stream can only increase in value, any decrease is a *Stream* error of type TBD (possibly just generic HTTP protocol error). Judicious endpoints can upgrade stream error to connection error if they so wish. For reference, closing the H3 control streams is verboten. This solves the problem with the draft 18 text that suggests sending a connection error of MALFORMED_FRAME if a MAX_PUSH_ID frame is received with a value lower than previously seen. Applying validation at the stream level may be easier to implement, needing only compare next push ID to previous push ID. One problem with this proposal is that it adds another stream that a server needs to coordinate with. However, server push is already coordinating over the control stream, request streams and push streams. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2418 ----==_mimepart_5c59634832655_d053f87a2cd45c411072 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

This straw man idea stems from the discussion on #2412.

Consider defining a new unidirectional stream type for Max Push ID updates. This can be expressed as unframed data: a series of increasing var ints. The use of MAX_PUSH_ID frame is entirely, so using a uni stream is a slightly better fit to the concept. Another reason to consider this approach is that it lends itself to extracting server push into an extension. It provides a pattern for how future extensions could manage themselves without needing to pollute the core control stream.

The max Push ID stands out as a connection-level state that has no associated H3 Setting. The reintroduction of an ENABLE_PUSH setting was recently dismissed in Tokyo, for valid reasons.

In this proposal, one client initiated unidirectional stream of type "Max Push ID update" may be created by a client as a clear signal of its interest in enabling server push. Push IDs sent on the stream can only increase in value, any decrease is a Stream error of type TBD (possibly just generic HTTP protocol error). Judicious endpoints can upgrade stream error to connection error if they so wish. For reference, closing the H3 control streams is verboten. This solves the problem with the draft 18 text that suggests sending a connection error of MALFORMED_FRAME if a MAX_PUSH_ID frame is received with a value lower than previously seen.

Applying validation at the stream level may be easier to implement, needing only compare next push ID to previous push ID.

One problem with this proposal is that it adds another stream that a server needs to coordinate with. However, server push is already coordinating over the control stream, request streams and push streams.

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Fixes #2351

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Oh, principles. The principle at play is that if a peer is demonstrab= ly not participating in the same protocol, stop communicating with them a= s soon as you detect that so they can sort things out. There are cases w= here meaningless messages can be ignored as harmless, but it's best not t= o ignore them unless ignoring is difficult. I still think we made the wr= ong choice with MAX_DATA and friends, but at least there the extenuating = circumstances are such that the choice is defensible.

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Ok, I can get behind that. I have an alternate proposal at hand on #2418. Depending on how that goes I'll file a separate issue about adjusting some of the wording about the error type.

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As long as we're not looking for a byte-by-byte reproduction of the bytes the intermediary received (as was once requested and rejected, I think at the Seattle interim), then it makes sense to signal that the message was killed. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2416#issuecomment-460602200 ----==_mimepart_5c5971bfa0031_3c023fd56f0d45c445169d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I can get behind this. As long as we're not looking for a byte-by-byte reproduction of the bytes the intermediary received (as was once requested and rejected, I think at the Seattle interim), then it makes sense to signal that the message was killed.

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The goal here is to ensure -that packets sent on different paths cannot be correlated. To fulfill this -privacy requirement, endpoints that initiate migration and use connection IDs -with length greater than zero SHOULD provide their peers with new connection IDs -before migration. - -Caution: - -: If both endpoints change connection ID in response to seeing a change in - connection ID from their peer, then this can trigger an infinite sequence of - changes. +Endpoints that supply connection IDs with length greater than zero could have +their activity correlated if their peers keep using the same destination +connection ID after migration. To ensure that packets sent on different paths +cannot be correlated, endpoints SHOULD provide with new connection IDs before #2414 might be the better PR to review then. I've removed the duplicated text. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -Destination Connection ID SHOULD change to sending packets with a connection ID
-that has not been used on any other network path.  The goal here is to ensure
-that packets sent on different paths cannot be correlated. To fulfill this
-privacy requirement, endpoints that initiate migration and use connection IDs
-with length greater than zero SHOULD provide their peers with new connection IDs
-before migration.
-
-Caution:
-
-: If both endpoints change connection ID in response to seeing a change in
-  connection ID from their peer, then this can trigger an infinite sequence of
-  changes.
+Endpoints that supply connection IDs with length greater than zero could have
+their activity correlated if their peers keep using the same destination
+connection ID after migration.  To ensure that packets sent on different paths
+cannot be correlated, endpoints SHOULD provide with new connection IDs before

#2414 might be the better PR to review then. I've removed the duplicated text.

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If the sequence is monotonic increasing, a series of deltas will make it more efficient. Slightly. I mean, the stream overhead here will dominate anyway.

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If the sequence is monotonic increasing, a series of deltas will make = it more efficient. Slightly. I mean, the stream overhead here will domina= te anyway.

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But the peer can have a CID that provides linkability. What would motivate the peer to change CID when the 0-CID client migrates? Will it automatically change CID on receiving data on new tuple?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -Destination Connection ID SHOULD change to sending packets with a connection ID
-that has not been used on any other network path.  The goal here is to ensure
-that packets sent on different paths cannot be correlated. To fulfill this
-privacy requirement, endpoints that initiate migration and use connection IDs
-with length greater than zero SHOULD provide their peers with new connection IDs
-before migration.
-
-Caution:
-
-: If both endpoints change connection ID in response to seeing a change in
-  connection ID from their peer, then this can trigger an infinite sequence of
-  changes.
+Endpoints that supply connection IDs with length greater than zero could have
+their activity correlated if their peers keep using the same destination
+connection ID after migration.  To ensure that packets sent on different paths
+cannot be correlated, endpoints SHOULD provide with new connection IDs before

I like the text there better, I've left a comment as well. Do you want to close this PR off in favor of that one?

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----==_mimepart_5c5991c2b5497_2ef23fb773cd45b410868e-- From nobody Tue Feb 5 05:53:22 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26B0A1310B9 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2019 05:53:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -11.149 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-11.149 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dCNlrzjzETHQ for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2019 05:53:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 75F99128766 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2019 05:53:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2019 05:53:18 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549374798; bh=Va0whL1i+VRKXFDkVo+R/82MGLIDg1QFa8iuGZULiJ0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=a4QNJvVSqyQMPdThLz9msCKxoBpQnoINlP4mQaEIm3Do+Ud/Ft8qgbHhgEB3ITZmu k/X6AVnG1UfnI7VlGROxBlSh8dbeEa0YyS2Jg+KcqiJAwd5Kr7GoOQoZxARTa+CZ2t ABWWwmJqaBAKnzcMH9ROB8WbwqHcvLrvkmNhFGFw= From: Igor Lubashev Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_[quicwg/base-drafts]_Describe_PMTU_probing_that?= =?UTF-8?Q?_includes_source_connection_ID_for_routing_=E2=80=A6_=28#2402=29?= Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c59954e269aa_6b3a3fb3a30d45bc25546d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: igorlord X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2019 13:53:21 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c59954e269aa_6b3a3fb3a30d45bc25546d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The coalescing logic requires you to skip long header packets after the handshake and process the coalesced packets in the UDP datagram. I.e. you need to wrap this is a loop. In Tokyo we decided that you can limit the number of times you will go through this loop per UDP datagram, if you want. (I think we said that the limit can be as low as 4, I think.) -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2402#issuecomment-460645057 ----==_mimepart_5c59954e269aa_6b3a3fb3a30d45bc25546d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The coalescing logic requires you to skip long header packets after th= e handshake and process the coalesced packets in the UDP datagram. I.e. y= ou need to wrap this is a loop. In Tokyo we decided that you can limit th= e number of times you will go through this loop per UDP datagram, if you = want. (I think we said that the limit can be as low as 4, I think.)

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= ----==_mimepart_5c59954e269aa_6b3a3fb3a30d45bc25546d-- From nobody Tue Feb 5 05:58:21 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 255211310C4 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2019 05:58:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -12.552 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-12.552 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FpZmXzPvM1mt for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2019 05:58:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 399021310C1 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2019 05:58:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2019 05:58:17 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549375097; bh=jjHUcWdKKoW7NxRWuzsqCSrFdbGQlyzdiC8mSEygCkY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=v0bOseaock0i1fi0C6tL/euqVlPYzFRV0wMyjaWfojESwFanJEXw2kIZA65POZ6Uh r4ieODBniUYAI9G/P7fAMRLCpsGnWeNBSGNoOaZxUc7n6Fypvp08yuUf9pXdI11wOv 4oB1RI758J7yMidPMZ0zgaATqHtr0+Mu8FzMA4ug= From: Igor Lubashev Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_[quicwg/base-drafts]_Describe_PMTU_probing_that?= =?UTF-8?Q?_includes_source_connection_ID_for_routing_=E2=80=A6_=28#2402=29?= Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c5996792a9b1_702d3fef19ad45c41034f9"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: igorlord X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2019 13:58:20 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c5996792a9b1_702d3fef19ad45c41034f9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > but it also says that you cannot have multiple connections, and you cannot have long headers post 1-RTT. That's correct. You cannot coalesce QUIC packets belonging to multiple connections into the same UDP datagram. This is not changed. It is also correct that a long-header packet past the completion of the handshake is not valid. So you need to do with that long-header QUIC packet what you would do with invalid packets -- drop it. (That's why the text says that such packets will not elicit an acknowledgement.) But then you should keep processing coalesced QUIC packets arriving in the same datagram, per text of the spec. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2402#issuecomment-460646711 ----==_mimepart_5c5996792a9b1_702d3fef19ad45c41034f9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

but it also says that you cannot have multiple connections, and you ca= nnot have long headers post 1-RTT.

That's correct. You cannot coalesce QUIC packets belonging to multiple= connections into the same UDP datagram. This is not changed.

It is also correct that a long-header packet past the completion of th= e handshake is not valid. So you need to do with that long-header QUIC pa= cket what you would do with invalid packets -- drop it. (That's why the t= ext says that such packets will not elicit an acknowledgement.) But then = you should keep processing coalesced QUIC packets arriving in the same da= tagram, per text of the spec.

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But, if you actually drop the longer header and proceed to the short header probe, you loose your source ID, so for it to work, you need to go against the current spec and process long headers post 1-RTT.

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Umm, if you don't have the handshake keys anymore, how do verify the long packet. And if you don't, how can you trust that someone didn't throw in some other source id (not sure that would be an efficient attack, but still).

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Better, you cannot send Handshake packets at all when you no longer ha= ve the keys, and if you could, they would be open to MiTM because they ke= ys aren't really that secure since the handshake as already been accepted= and therefore cannot fail.

So that leaves sending handshake packets with 1-RTT keys, and I couldn= 't really find where this is prohibited, but I believe the idea is that e= ach packet type identifies an encryption level.

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----==_mimepart_5c59a0d079ea_217c3fa8fbcd45b8168938-- From nobody Tue Feb 5 07:27:18 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C17671310D8 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2019 07:27:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -11.149 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-11.149 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5bZrpFlmiA6S for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2019 07:27:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E958712DF71 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2019 07:27:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2019 07:27:13 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549380433; bh=+Jkubq8t0n4YT/cSYDSAzdztPdb29UBRKQbzWeL7liI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=M8j2qIWf01zEjxwXAiEYS4V/Izw0sgqBR+Oo+/MLtLIktsSnB77EZD+noU3XGbK6y NjnfnYf4ioS/IeV4f330BQn1w3Vmb1mseLiRm4FMniEDnhIUNVUFaxcaf8v05XxXLk aMXwpW173RVzfE0XTMF+kU59aE+Z4AI/OUm+NrGg= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Consider a new stream type to act like MAX_PUSH_ID (#2418) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c59ab519a585_1fc53fab832d45c41406a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2019 15:27:17 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c59ab519a585_1fc53fab832d45c41406a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To clarify, I believe the problems this is solving/benfits are: 1) Impossible to have an invalid value in MAX_STREAM_ID 2) Makes push more like an extension 3) Saves 2+bytes per update to MAX_STREAM_ID 4) Slight reduction in odds of head of line blocking from moving off the control stream. I'm not sure if this is worth the extra complexity of another dedicated stream or not. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2418#issuecomment-460679724 ----==_mimepart_5c59ab519a585_1fc53fab832d45c41406a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

To clarify, I believe the problems this is solving/benfits are:

  1. Impossible to have an invalid value in MAX_STREAM_ID
  2. Makes push more like an extension
  3. Saves 2+bytes per update to MAX_STREAM_ID
  4. Slight reduction in odds of head of line blocking from moving off the= control stream.

I'm not sure if this is worth the extra complexity of another dedicate= d stream or not.

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= ----==_mimepart_5c59ab519a585_1fc53fab832d45c41406a-- From nobody Tue Feb 5 07:50:47 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC2931271FF for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2019 07:50:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -11.149 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-11.149 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bX0lZzdiOJZJ for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2019 07:50:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD1A012008A for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2019 07:50:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2019 07:50:42 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549381842; bh=p/6Zt5fwqxjtIsOFwT95bjGyM575VGCAr/5iRD/3SDc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=0/91y8VxAxSjrj5l8KBxxElGIF/h+JO9KgHsp5PD3TKuCNRd3a9XFUsj6xMXZqNYR ow3ySvssZNlvazMSTxCq9MnjAhyiPVHfGKlBH7YOWZ0A17N8sAxR0vt8FpxBh1mGss 13YVsk4R0+VcAV3kogycx9A+/lf7pyeaeIOJJnas= From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Consider a new stream type to act like MAX_PUSH_ID (#2418) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c59b0d2cdd35_53933f8b308d45b4347494"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2019 15:50:46 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c59b0d2cdd35_53933f8b308d45b4347494 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It might also solve the problem that the server cannot tell the client that there will be no server push used in a H3 session. You could do that with this design by resetting the "push control stream" or whatever we want to call it. This is a different way to achieve the lack of SETTINGS_(DIS|EN)ABLE_PUSH that we no longer have. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2418#issuecomment-460689489 ----==_mimepart_5c59b0d2cdd35_53933f8b308d45b4347494 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

It might also solve the problem that the server cannot tell the client= that there will be no server push used in a H3 session. You could do tha= t with this design by resetting the "push control stream" or whatever we = want to call it.

This is a different way to achieve the lack of SETTINGS_(DIS|EN)ABLE_P= USH that we no longer have.

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This can be expressed as unframed data: a series of increasing var ints. Am I correct in assuming that the design have the same issue to what you tried to address in #2412? If so, I wonder what the benefit of changing the design is. > The use of MAX_PUSH_ID frame is entirely unidirectional, so using a uni stream is a slightly better fit to the concept. Another reason to consider this approach is that it lends itself to extracting server push into an extension. It provides a pattern for how future extensions could manage themselves without needing to pollute the core control stream. I am not sure if that is the preferred approach. Although I acknowledge some of the upsides, the downsides of using unidirectional stream are that it requires more state (due to the need for it's own send / receive buffers) and that it is sometimes complex to synchronize the states that are communicated over multiple streams. There are multiple cases where we could use a dedicated stream instead of sending a frame on the control stream; PRIORITY, CANCEL_PUSH, GOAWAY, DUPLICATE_PUSH, I believe that the payload of all these frames can be sent using their own streams, the same way the proposal tries to carry the payload of MAX_PUSH_ID frame. To put it another way, it seems to me that our current design pattern is to use the control stream for transmitting various data instead of allocating a different unidirectional stream for each type of information. Allocating a different stream for just MAX_PUSH_ID would be a inconsistency in the design. Do we want to have dedicated unidirectional streams for each type of control information? To me that sounds like a design that's unnecessarily heavyweight. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Consider defining a new unidirectional stream type for Max Push ID updat= es. This can be expressed as unframed data: a series of increasing var ints= .

Am I correct in assuming that the design have the same issue to what you= tried to address in #2412? If so, I wonder what the benefit of changing= the design is.

The use of MAX_PUSH_ID frame is entirely unidirectional, so using a uni = stream is a slightly better fit to the concept. Another reason to consider = this approach is that it lends itself to extracting server push into an ext= ension. It provides a pattern for how future extensions could manage themse= lves without needing to pollute the core control stream.

I am not sure if that is the preferred approach. Although I acknowledge = some of the upsides, the downsides of using unidirectional stream are that = it requires more state (due to the need for it's own send / receive buffers= ) and that it is sometimes complex to synchronize the states that are commu= nicated over multiple streams. There are multiple cases where we could use = a dedicated stream instead of sending a frame on the control stream; PRIORI= TY, CANCEL_PUSH, GOAWAY, DUPLICATE_PUSH, I believe that the payload of all = these frames can be sent using their own streams, the same way the proposal= tries to carry the payload of MAX_PUSH_ID frame.

To put it another way, it seems to me that our current design pattern is= to use the control stream for transmitting various data instead of allocat= ing a different unidirectional stream for each type of information. Allocat= ing a different stream for just MAX_PUSH_ID would be a inconsistency in the= design. Do we want to have dedicated unidirectional streams for each type = of control information? To me that sounds like a design that's unnecessaril= y heavyweight.

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Another error that we saw a lot in the early days of H2 deployment was h= eaders fields using mixed-case capitalization. This cannot be attributed to= a malformed H3 frame.

I really hope this class of error has been shaken out of systems by now = but you never know.

Agreed. I think using HTTP_GENERAL_PROTOCOL_ERROR as a catch-all error c= ode when the peer does something stupid makes sense. After all, that's what= we did in H2 and IMO it works well.

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= ----==_mimepart_5c59de849e0e3_50a43fda6f0d45c42292f-- From nobody Tue Feb 5 12:30:03 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEE6C131248 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2019 12:30:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -12.552 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-12.552 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7td28SGtheS4 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2019 12:30:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 27CAF131240 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2019 12:29:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2019 12:29:58 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549398598; bh=Yv7BCfMfGnuxVpdgy9h+ht4G/JaimLCIMc4rsCIGtYA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=EJw0k6YzqbCotc3KLA5ttnPDOC324AXkGjJW64iHBSEY6vuLzuEmJsFozngJ8DfFJ sgHNtaEAT1jXcJanATi8g+gIkmwcHpAJcShBs2pWRoh9UJj+ra10IurPb7lSTRxM/F BJyoTsrBH5cu2z/ebxisd8JI0bwFoOBdw84kn0M8= From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Consider a new stream type to act like MAX_PUSH_ID (#2418) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c59f246e7269_34c23ff6296d45c08782f"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2019 20:30:02 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c59f246e7269_34c23ff6296d45c08782f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No other frame has the same combination of characteristics as MAX_PUSH_FR= AME:=0D =0D * Valid in one direction only=0D * Valid on one stream type only=0D * Hard requirements on order of values carried in frame, with failure req= uiring a connection error=0D =0D GOAWAY comes close but is more lenient =0D =0D >. A server that is attempting to gracefully shut down a connection SHOUL= D send an initial GOAWAY frame with the last Stream ID set to the current= value of QUIC=E2=80=99s MAX_STREAM_ID and SHOULD NOT increase the MAX_ST= REAM_ID thereafter.=0D =0D =0D =0D -- =0D You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.=0D Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub:=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2418#issuecomment-460791582= ----==_mimepart_5c59f246e7269_34c23ff6296d45c08782f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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I might also dare to incite the qpackers and say that we could live without encoder and decoder streams. Insteaf creating some new frame types that hold the instructions and exchange them on control stream

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----==_mimepart_5c59f931d19cb_22293f9f3b8d45b8918ee-- From nobody Tue Feb 5 13:03:41 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD5EB1312A7 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2019 13:03:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -12.552 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-12.552 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vlcB_1LTs9Lb for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2019 13:03:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-9.smtp.github.com (out-9.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 989C113129E for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2019 13:03:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2019 13:03:36 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549400616; bh=rwnt9NjLKOuceKziS2zDizPSzSQM9LGWQDOML/OvYXI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=k2R1hlidxit9yDkZXPB5fglwHr+Qxiryn0nKOQvJ05kYeXcGbeDv7B8vjbsfDrNTd q2smTqKfVP4BPQTjsMJ6kHLDFa/QyMyfayBivQxMGV91Y37P/T+jg9pa7pjzIYTmv4 CJYH+nB6C2/Aby3KX+N4mCFFAC5YYaCcCe3Ns37U= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] New connection IDs are mandatory for intentional migration (#2414) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c59fa288d295_5c523f8ab28d45c415908d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2019 21:03:40 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c59fa288d295_5c523f8ab28d45c415908d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ianswett commented on this pull request. > -after migration. Endpoints that receive packets with a previously unused -Destination Connection ID SHOULD change to sending packets with a connection ID -that has not been used on any other network path. The goal here is to ensure -that packets sent on different paths cannot be correlated. To fulfill this -privacy requirement, endpoints that initiate migration and use connection IDs -with length greater than zero SHOULD provide their peers with new connection IDs -before migration. - -Caution: - -: If both endpoints change connection ID in response to seeing a change in - connection ID from their peer, then this can trigger an infinite sequence of - changes. +An endpoint cannot migrate to a new path if it does not have a connection ID to +use on that path. An endpoint that exhausts available connection IDs cannot +migrate. If a peer chooses to receive packets with zero-length connection IDs, I think it makes sense to put this 3rd sentence first, and then say, "Otherwise, an endpoint cannot migrate..." The current text reads in a somewhat self-contradictory way. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2414#pullrequestreview-200301616 ----==_mimepart_5c59fa288d295_5c523f8ab28d45c415908d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -after migration. Endpoints that receive packets with a previously unused
-Destination Connection ID SHOULD change to sending packets with a connection ID
-that has not been used on any other network path.  The goal here is to ensure
-that packets sent on different paths cannot be correlated. To fulfill this
-privacy requirement, endpoints that initiate migration and use connection IDs
-with length greater than zero SHOULD provide their peers with new connection IDs
-before migration.
-
-Caution:
-
-: If both endpoints change connection ID in response to seeing a change in
-  connection ID from their peer, then this can trigger an infinite sequence of
-  changes.
+An endpoint cannot migrate to a new path if it does not have a connection ID to
+use on that path.  An endpoint that exhausts available connection IDs cannot
+migrate.  If a peer chooses to receive packets with zero-length connection IDs,

I think it makes sense to put this 3rd sentence first, and then say, "Otherwise, an endpoint cannot migrate..."

The current text reads in a somewhat self-contradictory way.

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@LPardue, QPACK encoder data was originally in HEADERS frame= s on the control stream; the reason for moving to unidirectional streams = was the insight that the blocks of updates weren't themselves significant= ; it was really the state of individual updates that needed to be tracked= . Because they were an ordered sequence with no semantics to the divisio= n into frames, we decided that moving to a stream would be simpler to pro= cess.

In this case, the semantics are a little different -- you really only = ever care about the most recent value. In the transport and in H2, we ca= rry such things in frames because that's what we have. An application on= top of QUIC doesn't really have an equivalent mechanism until DATAGRAM e= xists. Putting the current frame in a DATAGRAM would make the most sense= . In the meantime, @martinthomson is correct that only del= tas are needed, and that's actually true even with the frame -- they're o= n the control stream in order, so a delta would be sufficient. The curre= nt design does rather straddle the two options, delivering full updates i= n order. The main argument for keeping the current design seems like avo= iding the need to change the structure when we are able to adopt DATAGRAM= .

I don't think moving it to a unidirectional stream makes it any more e= xtension-like than defining a frame type -- extensions can do either.

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This is basically an expansion of the CANCELLED/REJECTED codes to allow a server to do either. WFM.

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This is a valiant explanation, thanks Mike.

I don't see how unreliable DATAGRAM fixes the problem with handling MAX_= PUSH_ID. I think it risks making the problem worse with the current rules.<= /p>

Consider a client that sends a ID 5, then ID 3 erroneously. If these are= in separate DATAGRAMS, the error may go unnoticed if the first frame was l= ost. Furthermore, loss could effectively starve the server of Push ID credi= ts, with neither endpoint being the wiser as to what happened.

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And more pragmatically, you can't do a non-fatal stream error on the control stream. If these moved to a separate unidirectional stream, I'd be open to the possibility of making an error kill push rather than the whole connection.

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Minor nit; otherwise good.

Given that we have two frames that fall into this camp, might it be worth doing something like "(*) = only as the first frame"?

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -396,9 +396,24 @@ implementation chooses.
 
 # HTTP Framing Layer {#http-framing-layer}
 
-As discussed above, frames are carried on QUIC streams and used on control
-streams, request streams, and push streams.  This section describes HTTP framing
-in QUIC.  For a comparison with HTTP/2 frames, see {{h2-frames}}.
+HTTP frames are carried on QUIC streams, as described in {{stream-mapping}}.
+HTTP/3 defines three stream types: control stream, request stream, and push
+stream. This section describes HTTP/3 frame formats and the streams types which
+they are permitted on, see {{stream-frame-mapping}} for an overiew.  A

"on which they are permitted; see ... overview"

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That's what got me thinking about the unidirectional stream. Killing the stream is a very explicit signal, but also not dissimilar to running out of credit permanently. A stream error could be upgraded to connection error if a server really wanted...

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So a friendly pointer to detail that could be easily misinterpreted or missed? It seems like a table footnote is required but I'm not sure how to do that in Markdown.

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Yes, the reverse direction provides new opportunities for linkability, but we already require that new connection IDs are used on previously unused paths.

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More generally, I'm using this as a placeholder to do a pass over RFC7= 540 and identify whether its requirements and concepts are:

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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Feb 5 15:08:33 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE75012785F for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2019 15:08:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -12.552 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-12.552 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0UIj624-Iu75 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2019 15:08:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 76B411277CC for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2019 15:08:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2019 15:08:26 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549408106; bh=cLFzUlkiLmKdbNajNx1s6C9XhQ9ySpqe/479Zv4pn+4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=jsGH/+1PBHrgLP+4baPmVuR7v+KJzNi7Ku6criDcUZ0VkT0lym+QVbJOIilDnHumI +/75rkKPJcL+5oo0ZJux3pwStTZ3tBFAVYRb82P3ow7ywXtufEq6Ksc1Igkk6aAz+K QrgzRaGp/69P876s61xzE5RyZVzHt1shB8n2j5Ps= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove requirement for reciprocal connection ID change (#2386) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c5a176ac897b_7f443fe4212d45c0100487"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2019 23:08:29 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c5a176ac897b_7f443fe4212d45c0100487 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson commented on this pull request. > -Destination Connection ID SHOULD change to sending packets with a connection ID -that has not been used on any other network path. The goal here is to ensure -that packets sent on different paths cannot be correlated. To fulfill this -privacy requirement, endpoints that initiate migration and use connection IDs -with length greater than zero SHOULD provide their peers with new connection IDs -before migration. - -Caution: - -: If both endpoints change connection ID in response to seeing a change in - connection ID from their peer, then this can trigger an infinite sequence of - changes. +Endpoints that supply connection IDs with length greater than zero could have +their activity correlated if their peers keep using the same destination +connection ID after migration. To ensure that packets sent on different paths +cannot be correlated, endpoints SHOULD provide with new connection IDs before This should close when that does. Closing this might have side-effects. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -Destination Connection ID SHOULD change to sending packets with a connection ID
-that has not been used on any other network path.  The goal here is to ensure
-that packets sent on different paths cannot be correlated. To fulfill this
-privacy requirement, endpoints that initiate migration and use connection IDs
-with length greater than zero SHOULD provide their peers with new connection IDs
-before migration.
-
-Caution:
-
-: If both endpoints change connection ID in response to seeing a change in
-  connection ID from their peer, then this can trigger an infinite sequence of
-  changes.
+Endpoints that supply connection IDs with length greater than zero could have
+their activity correlated if their peers keep using the same destination
+connection ID after migration.  To ensure that packets sent on different paths
+cannot be correlated, endpoints SHOULD provide with new connection IDs before

This should close when that does. Closing this might have side-effects.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2089,15 +2089,17 @@ different local addresses, as discussed in {{connection-id}}.  For this to be
 effective endpoints need to ensure that connections IDs they provide cannot be
 linked by any other entity.
 
-This eliminates the use of the connection ID for linking activity from
-the same connection on different networks.  Header protection ensures
-that packet numbers cannot be used to correlate activity.  This does not prevent
-other properties of packets, such as timing and size, from being used to
-correlate activity.
+An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID if it initiates connection migration,

I've just updated the text below to cover the MUST NOT migrate case (I used "cannot" before).

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Commit: d4ea7cf250fbff0a42078506a229c3b1fbbb0111 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d4ea7cf250fbff0a42078506a229c3b1fbbb0111 Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2019-02-04 (Mon, 04 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Adding the hyphen that Jana suggested. Co-Authored-By: huitema Commit: 89fbee7952d4192b2a58d0abf1c0c6080c5c2cb7 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/89fbee7952d4192b2a58d0abf1c0c6080c5c2cb7 Author: Lars Eggert Date: 2019-02-04 (Mon, 04 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md accept suggestion. Co-Authored-By: huitema Commit: bdd348c613657dff1ba37e0c75f64dd322ddd236 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/bdd348c613657dff1ba37e0c75f64dd322ddd236 Author: Christian Huitema Date: 2019-02-04 (Mon, 04 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Crypotographic hash for the flow label. Commit: 5017bc3fca43f71070c39db4e76f023c401bc51c https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5017bc3fca43f71070c39db4e76f023c401bc51c Author: Christian Huitema Date: 2019-02-04 (Mon, 04 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Split long line. 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Apparently "fixes issue #foo" isn't equivalent to "fixes #foo". That's a little annoying, if not entirely surprising.

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Closed #2101.

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----==_mimepart_5c5a1e2242d53_2d6a3fa1c2ad45b48361e-- From nobody Tue Feb 5 15:38:08 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8888113134B for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2019 15:38:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.935 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.935 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PQx7HDDUK3C2 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2019 15:38:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E4D0C131349 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2019 15:38:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2019 15:38:04 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549409884; bh=mXUhwZjr8I70JAyvbLrthBFP3Ga3g9X91O8T5HKvL/8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=NUgUoNEmglKMsO7TENNsGFoLc2Qlu8mOOL4AH5OJeJhEQaSNO6h3vjiq/1ARgYg7N B1VXiMiknYgMqO6YlyfN/zGp/kBIvM0B2wpS6Ok7esrHRlM1kpmbWMfwZj0QwD3OSh 2Sn4rgQO04QLVNHAyLfXXp/YRHQRa5bwjnJXATiA= From: martinduke Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clarify Actions on nonzero Reserved Bits (#2280) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c5a1e5c73bd_9993fb3f18d45c053612"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinduke X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2019 23:38:06 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c5a1e5c73bd_9993fb3f18d45c053612 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK, I'm happy with this now. I added some explanatory text to say "no, really, don't cut corners here," which I believe addresses the concern that @ianswett and I have. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2280#issuecomment-460848036 ----==_mimepart_5c5a1e5c73bd_9993fb3f18d45c053612 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

OK, I'm happy with this now. I added some explanatory text to say "no, really, don't cut corners here," which I believe addresses the concern that @ianswett and I have.

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----==_mimepart_5c5a1e5c73bd_9993fb3f18d45c053612-- From nobody Tue Feb 5 15:38:32 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A644813134B for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2019 15:38:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -11.007 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-11.007 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 41OwDdEJh64D for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2019 15:38:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DED57131349 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2019 15:38:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2019 15:38:28 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549409908; bh=SXYAm/l63B3u9eE4ojUpCOMR4KO7JVGej3vHAQhwW8c=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=U3PuG9bZ7l6DP0Ik+UFbgA14XXZgvfQYGebrRXpKrRHDAjNBeQFl3cCdHAH5cMwhD Wr6pqPn5VbnfyA+dPIS2mz7CXJOCuoS1031z8lallOjA8oI5o/V7KCv38WuKUkzfGP y3Ug8T6/MD68wxnGq66tTRG+Ssyh9326r1i6u1is= From: martinduke Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clarify Actions on nonzero Reserved Bits (#2280) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c5a1e742c7f3_38b93fb4d14d45c0117051"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinduke X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2019 23:38:31 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c5a1e742c7f3_38b93fb4d14d45c0117051 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Also, please reclassify this PR as "editorial" -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2280#issuecomment-460848137 ----==_mimepart_5c5a1e742c7f3_38b93fb4d14d45c0117051 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Also, please reclassify this PR as "editorial"

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Thanks for persisting Martin. This looks good.

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Last call for like-minded folks. I'll close this if no one else thinks it is badly presented.

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----==_mimepart_5c5a1f39aef34_2d623fa1c2ad45b4870a-- From nobody Tue Feb 5 15:43:30 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F08F913135D for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2019 15:43:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -11.553 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-11.553 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Dqz35v7Knt0M for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2019 15:43:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6B1FD131354 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2019 15:43:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2019 15:43:23 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549410203; bh=jovIJw4KMIX1vD1/cEXMe1ISK1NRg6MKiiDTyQMouYM=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=0BtO/ROp1Qtu10bxreIe8djrLLFfAq+g/fEGgx773YbErctOPFx3O652yZbZk+NlC XXQbUjsszlpT84vCZ+9+vo2lKdZ2MShITCcitubQFMVif38pU/Gfw1Gvqol7AS/XJ5 SHlc6Nk7B0lVw4xbjyHvdqWo/uOpvA6wjEMT78pQ= From: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] 422654: Get rid of DoS vulnerability in Reserved Bits Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2019 23:43:29 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: 4226540cb935df4c65787e48b325e140e44ad710 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4226540cb935df4c65787e48b325e140e44ad710 Author: martinduke Date: 2018-12-30 (Sun, 30 Dec 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Get rid of DoS vulnerability in Reserved Bits As currently written, any garbage packet, after removing header protection, will have nonzero reserved bits and bring the connection down. Not good! Similarly, it is perverse to force me to actually decrypt the full packet to see if it turns out to be a misbehaving end host and comply with the other possible reading of this requirement. Let the receiver just drop the bad packet after header decryption and carry on. Commit: 4ae95269177232b01918af4ccc7b006b63cdb3d5 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4ae95269177232b01918af4ccc7b006b63cdb3d5 Author: martinduke Date: 2018-12-30 (Sun, 30 Dec 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- whitespace Commit: f668691287e3eccf8e330761fdb79f44e4d4edb8 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f668691287e3eccf8e330761fdb79f44e4d4edb8 Author: martinduke Date: 2018-12-30 (Sun, 30 Dec 2018) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Addressed MT's issue This is a clarification now, rather than a change. Perhaps we should add more about why, but at least this makes it clear. Commit: f780ef402954ac5a9efabb23a556769f121dbc1d https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f780ef402954ac5a9efabb23a556769f121dbc1d Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-01-09 (Wed, 09 Jan 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Co-Authored-By: martinduke Commit: 3b36352247f614b80c4710256547915f151d3e82 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3b36352247f614b80c4710256547915f151d3e82 Author: martinduke Date: 2019-01-09 (Wed, 09 Jan 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md A initial-protection.js Log Message: ----------- Merge branch 'master' into patch-32 Commit: 74da0422dd2f96a1c77357d12916a62a1e7dc326 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/74da0422dd2f96a1c77357d12916a62a1e7dc326 Author: martinduke Date: 2019-02-05 (Tue, 05 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Cleaned up after discussion in Tokyo Commit: 7d3489be3b673898d35c3422b29d9cea43c875fa https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7d3489be3b673898d35c3422b29d9cea43c875fa Author: martinduke Date: 2019-02-05 (Tue, 05 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Added more explanatory text Commit: d291c753fcd49194a1c6761f82bbe57e2c188535 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d291c753fcd49194a1c6761f82bbe57e2c188535 Author: martinduke Date: 2019-02-05 (Tue, 05 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- typos Commit: 8b53c9413d56fa9253eb2c572b1be588a1485af7 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8b53c9413d56fa9253eb2c572b1be588a1485af7 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-02-06 (Wed, 06 Feb 2019) Changed paths: A .github/release-drafter.yml M draft-ietf-quic-http.md M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md M draft-ietf-quic-spin-exp.md M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md M tag.sh Log Message: ----------- Merge branch 'master' into pr2280 Commit: addb32807e18bc1443b4580acf4e7687696d44e6 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/addb32807e18bc1443b4580acf4e7687696d44e6 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-02-06 (Wed, 06 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Wrapping Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/0d554c67b84b...addb32807e18 From nobody Tue Feb 5 15:44:01 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FFA9131355 for ; 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And here is me fixing the issue myself. I merged this, minus the last change manually.

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----==_mimepart_5c5a23ca153b3_56193f7ee12d45c035983-- From nobody Tue Feb 5 16:01:26 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B66FE127598 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2019 16:01:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.553 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.553 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rJ40UzHhWPS4 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2019 16:01:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from o1.sgmail.github.com (o1.sgmail.github.com [192.254.114.176]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5D25C128CF2 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2019 16:01:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=s20150108; bh=YlyMTJKz+oSqUV6MsGysGaWM43g=; b=jO5GeGgUV0t35Mcr UiWHEi3cKhHUSMcDAxZV7l+meVyl54CyuTUicgzbu87p11a/FwAIcjTWkgNWXX2D 2OEyyE+YhLTxJeBJCkobSC3/QOjDWWxyvvpqu7ZhSvXbaB55xbyq0rRRLMtFhn8h Paewm46j10HOa+UnvEHliFD8az0= Received: by filter1613p1mdw1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter1613p1mdw1-17146-5C5A23C7-1E 2019-02-06 00:01:11.542362863 +0000 UTC m=+10607.908550801 Received: from github-lowworker-0b1e58d.cp1-iad.github.net (unknown [192.30.252.43]) by ismtpd0038p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id Q9k8QjmrQ_OcW8Dpw8iALQ for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2019 00:01:11.506 +0000 (UTC) Received: from github.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by github-lowworker-0b1e58d.cp1-iad.github.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7726E3E0513 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2019 16:01:11 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2019 00:01:11 +0000 (UTC) From: Lucas Pardue To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] c31449: Add table to show what frames go on what streams (... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak1rGLMHZtBKDMmHT0K+tal4SC+cPZzVfEGtDN c6nvT58xIDat+bnyjLzO92pMQCcpJGO3HxmuMnSAEYR2HsjTMZOmGWVwtKNUbfdWtgLk05obBGGjH1 9e9aGD2tD5qr6KG8gugedoM0wefoIspEFs/WEdg1d6TMoRw3kpf8tFBZ6JHCknJ7GQhi5EE4wAdRNn k= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2019 00:01:19 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: c314498b12c3954680885ff7e69680c0090807ff https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c314498b12c3954680885ff7e69680c0090807ff Author: Lucas Pardue Date: 2019-02-05 (Tue, 05 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- Add table to show what frames go on what streams (#2419) * Add table to show what frames go on what streams * Mike's sentance nicening From nobody Tue Feb 5 16:01:32 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4D63131360 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2019 16:01:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.935 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.935 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ramo_ttOtRPV for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2019 16:01:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from o5.sgmail.github.com (o5.sgmail.github.com [192.254.113.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 306C6131260 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2019 16:01:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=qT4D+Zvwi3Tw8gth3+khIiMJUws=; b=Zonm5VTqthqaH0kB PfMzQIP0QjqjJZjFid1kNgAIRr4hcHzEI+iNsB5aVeuLRfdEKUQK6Z43TXfSRzid BO4Tepmf13bwEcyGcpbso/P30DxK8ebq5Z4GWtwmKxLl+u1hhvvNdYmEvVHYt3p6 ymCaeKYfU0EX+dI9jrAZWcUK3OA= Received: by filter0899p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0899p1las1-27711-5C5A23CA-17 2019-02-06 00:01:14.441175746 +0000 UTC m=+14677.738862361 Received: from github-lowworker-baaab27.cp1-iad.github.net (unknown [192.30.252.33]) by ismtpd0019p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id D2VU0DMRQrqJYLJ4JtwRbw for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2019 00:01:14.452 +0000 (UTC) Received: from github.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by github-lowworker-baaab27.cp1-iad.github.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52DDC803A7 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2019 16:01:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2019 00:01:14 +0000 (UTC) From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Add table to show what frames go on what streams (#2419) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c5a23ca508ea_123c3f96b2ed45bc2324b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak1mj6StGr8dRLN2q30k3ds9Lus6FSKofTRp8D yFug+i3MUPUSbRWWCiOejJQLRKrbt4KFgcxAGiAU/VfUrexurAge6HwBoEy3aUT4g7EaFlON7w+cA3 1o6pnAqXIkSsJnFKOEALMUFFjKPrDzIpwho1E99pHVF1zUzp4SQ8v0izzZ2aGTOSuSfqXPe8VA2qcd E= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2019 00:01:21 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c5a23ca508ea_123c3f96b2ed45bc2324b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Merged #2419 into master. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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It cleans up two problems: 1) Strictly speaking, the MAY in the original text is redundant, because receivers MAY do anything except exceed the delayed ack timeout. I think it reads better now. 2) @martinthomson mentioned that the spec was a little ambiguous about how to handle additional OOO packets during the interval. I put down some language, but I'm not sure it's what @ianswett would recommend. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2424 -- Commit Summary -- * Reword Immediate ACK Recommendation -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md (13) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2424.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2424.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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This is a reword of #2025, as discussed with @ianswett previously.

It cleans up two problems:

  1. Strictly speaking, the MAY in the original text is redundant, because receivers MAY do anything except exceed the delayed ack timeout. I think it reads better now.
  2. @martinthomson mentioned that the spec was a little ambiguous about how to handle additional OOO packets during the interval. I put down some language, but I'm not sure it's what @ianswett would recommend.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2424

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is my stab at adding the indication discussed in #2419. 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This is my stab at adding the indication discussed in #2419.

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Lgtm. An minor Improvement might be to highlight in the new sentence that "specific guidance is provided in the relevant section" but that might be obvious. I'm happy without anything further. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2425#pullrequestreview-200367255 ----==_mimepart_5c5a270fb9433_6f523faa69ed45c4119391 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@LPardue approved this pull request.

Lgtm.

An minor Improvement might be to highlight in the new sentence that "specific guidance is provided in the relevant section" but that might be obvious. I'm happy without anything further.

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This has several advantages: I know this is a late change, but I think it's an improvement.... - You can switch on the frame type before you even read a variable-length value - You can have special-case (negotiated) frame types with no lengths If this has already been discussed and rejected somewhere, maybe I missed it. * ... 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Once DATAGRAMs are used, there's no ordering guarantee, so no check can be performed on the receiver. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2418#issuecomment-460858943 ----==_mimepart_5c5a2a2ca66e6_75763fe1ae2d45b82292e3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

We have a mandatory error because they arrive in a fixed order and therefore an incorrect receipt order means an incorrect send order. Once DATAGRAMs are used, there's no ordering guarantee, so no check can be performed on the receiver.

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Fixes #2416.

I think this is editorial, as servers were not previously prohibited from using this error code. This merely suggests when they might do so.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2426

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  • Servers can still CANCEL, too.

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Closed #2395.

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Fixed by #2235.

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Fixes #2279.

Separately from this, I note that Security Considerations is becoming more of a jumbled bag of waving at various concerns. Some organization and expanded text around each topic might be warranted.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2427

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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Feb 5 16:48:56 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86B57128CE4 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2019 16:48:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -12.552 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-12.552 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cSjnAB4Hqc-c for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2019 16:48:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AB5A5128B01 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2019 16:48:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2019 16:48:52 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549414132; bh=P1hktiGePpk8de/QixIi2ZxWn+GjD3iz/O4sA0LLrsA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ExnX1vGIJozgCHa0Gq7w2y9lEiQdVdcrp3ac4UXOiVjqjll7fly2eD329Z1A/4+ET 3//PSSmvU6jbi9zoAsknpkNowxfH/Yiu8eoVb+5bHbE3a4bSnXl4ZdDDANSvRtb7OG oLBr63fN+judYbvpfgVo/1ONVdZRPj4d/oiVt1Eg= From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Consider a new stream type to act like MAX_PUSH_ID (#2418) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c5a2ef4ee20d_35a93f8f8dcd45b87756d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2019 00:48:56 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c5a2ef4ee20d_35a93f8f8dcd45b87756d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think depends if we ascribe special meaning to the fact that a client took N steps to a max value, or if we just care that we arrive at the max value. To me, the endstate is the same. And since you can't "steal back" push ID credits, neither side should care if that manifests. But there may be gotchas in ignoring lower limits so I can fall in line of popular opinion. I'm not seeing an outright no to this strawman. I think there are some unique benefits and drawbacks. What is a sensible path forward, a more solid PR? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2418#issuecomment-460862806 ----==_mimepart_5c5a2ef4ee20d_35a93f8f8dcd45b87756d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I think depends if we ascribe special meaning to the fact that a clien= t took N steps to a max value, or if we just care that we arrive at the m= ax value.

To me, the endstate is the same. And since you can't "steal back" push= ID credits, neither side should care if that manifests.

But there may be gotchas in ignoring lower limits so I can fall in lin= e of popular opinion.

I'm not seeing an outright no to this strawman. I think there are some= unique benefits and drawbacks. What is a sensible path forward, a more s= olid PR?

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I think that this is better, though I'd like to confirm design intent.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -134,6 +134,11 @@ Crypto Packets:
 
 : Packets containing CRYPTO data sent in Initial or Handshake
   packets.
+  
+Out-of-order Packets:
+
+: Packets that do not increase the largest received packet number for its
+cryptographic context by exactly one.

Do you want to add: "Packets can arrive out of order as a result of packets ahead of them being lost or delayed." I think that's accurate.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -244,11 +249,9 @@ ack-eliciting packet. QUIC recovery algorithms do not assume the peer sends
 an ACK immediately when receiving a second ack-eliciting packet.
 
 In order to accelerate loss recovery and reduce timeouts, the receiver SHOULD
-send an immediate ACK when it receives a new packet which is not one greater
-than the largest received packet number. A receiver MAY send immediate ACKs
-for the next few ack-eliciting packets that are received, but SHOULD NOT
-send an immediate ACK for more than 1/8 RTT after receiving an out-of-order
-packet.
+send immediate ACKs for an interval after it receives an out-of-order packet.
+This interval SHOULD NOT exceed 1/8 RTT unless more out-of-order packets arrive
+during the interval.

So the idea is that every out-of-order packet triggers a 1/8 RTT interval of immediate acknowledgments?

I thought that the idea was to disable the sending of immediate acknowledgments if out-of-order packets started becoming routine. That is, if you have a highly unreliable path, then immediate acknowledgments aren't helping repair errors, they are just noise.

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I think this falls under the umbrella of making sure RFC7540 content is referenced / restated appropriately in an H3 world.

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Since the guidance about where PUSH_PROMISE should be sent falls in the broader category of "info from 7540 that needs to be restated / referenced in H3," I plan to fix this as part of that change.

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(#2426) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c5a3065ae117_6eb13fc5cf0d45c41136dd"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2019 00:55:04 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c5a3065ae117_6eb13fc5cf0d45c41136dd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson commented on this pull request. > @@ -1382,7 +1386,7 @@ HTTP_PUSH_ALREADY_IN_CACHE (0x04): : The server has attempted to push content which the client has cached. HTTP_REQUEST_CANCELLED (0x05): -: The client no longer needs the requested data. +: The sender is no longer processing the request or response. Not sure if you want to use "processing" here. It might be read as implying something more (REQUEST_REJECTED). Maybe: ```suggestion : The request or its response is cancelled. ``` > @@ -1004,11 +1004,15 @@ some higher layer of software that might have taken some action as a result. The client can treat requests rejected by the server as though they had never been sent at all, thereby allowing them to be retried later on a new connection. Servers MUST NOT use the HTTP_REQUEST_REJECTED error code for requests which -were partially or fully processed. When a client sends a STOP_SENDING with -HTTP_REQUEST_CANCELLED, a server MAY indicate the error code -HTTP_REQUEST_REJECTED in the corresponding RESET_STREAM if no processing was -performed. Clients MUST NOT reset streams with the HTTP_REQUEST_REJECTED error -code except in response to a QUIC STOP_SENDING frame. +were partially or fully processed. When a server abandons a response after +partial processing, it SHOULD abort its response stream with the error code +HTTP_REQUEST_CANCELLED. + +When a client sends a STOP_SENDING with HTTP_REQUEST_CANCELLED, a server MAY +indicate the error code HTTP_REQUEST_REJECTED in the corresponding RESET_STREAM ```suggestion send the error code HTTP_REQUEST_REJECTED in the corresponding RESET_STREAM ``` > @@ -1004,11 +1004,15 @@ some higher layer of software that might have taken some action as a result. The client can treat requests rejected by the server as though they had never been sent at all, thereby allowing them to be retried later on a new connection. Servers MUST NOT use the HTTP_REQUEST_REJECTED error code for requests which -were partially or fully processed. When a client sends a STOP_SENDING with -HTTP_REQUEST_CANCELLED, a server MAY indicate the error code -HTTP_REQUEST_REJECTED in the corresponding RESET_STREAM if no processing was -performed. Clients MUST NOT reset streams with the HTTP_REQUEST_REJECTED error -code except in response to a QUIC STOP_SENDING frame. +were partially or fully processed. When a server abandons a response after +partial processing, it SHOULD abort its response stream with the error code +HTTP_REQUEST_CANCELLED. + +When a client sends a STOP_SENDING with HTTP_REQUEST_CANCELLED, a server MAY +indicate the error code HTTP_REQUEST_REJECTED in the corresponding RESET_STREAM +if no processing was performed. Clients MUST NOT reset streams with the +HTTP_REQUEST_REJECTED error code except in response to a QUIC STOP_SENDING +frame. ```suggestion frame that contains the same code. ``` The implication here is that a server won't use STOP_SENDING with REQUEST_REJECTED unless they have not processed anything. 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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

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Seems mostly right. Though I would prefer something that simply highlighted the fact that a remote address is not expected to be stable over the lifetime of a connection. Therefore, decisions that use an address as input need to either keep up to date, or accept the consequences of not doing so.

I would also point out that this is true even if migration is disabled.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1463,6 +1463,13 @@ could pose a security risk to an incautious implementer.  An implementation MUST
 ensure that the length of a frame exactly matches the length of the fields it
 contains.
 
+Certain HTTP implementations use the client address for logging or
+access-control purposes.  Since QUIC supports path migration (and future
+versions might support simultaneous use of multiple paths), such implementations
+will need to actively retrieve the client's current address or addresses when

... will need to either actively retrieve the current address, or explicitly accept that the original address might change.

I don't think that they have to do either as long as the original requirement is recognized. Of course, I would prefer to say that address-based access control is silly, but it is unfortunately still widely used, and not just for DoS mitigation.

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----==_mimepart_5c5a31c28f499_76583fdf5f0d45c03459a1-- From nobody Tue Feb 5 17:08:18 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23600128B01 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2019 17:08:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.935 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.935 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WZ6bRQUFACMb for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2019 17:08:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5344E124408 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2019 17:08:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2019 17:08:14 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549415294; bh=WKGrU20ctMbAnJP/5lpGC3bbNqvNJ6NDZMMeJ7YGXiE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=WNhcVN7xnj3pl0E9MY3GGeMcY3tbi8Txw395x3a7Ku6xiB9SNiSgXGXtSkqiI+08z YUs/9XH8VDTvZwqNIGjv5anJduNOpl++SxdJpYOMauRUAGiA8DKxgNjroQO3D0PLv/ O+14IvF7UdK3CW6faeVyA7BmtdJm4+YQvO1wgFb4= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Consider a new stream type to act like MAX_PUSH_ID (#2418) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c5a337ea6e98_4fa3f9b01ed45b430887"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2019 01:08:17 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c5a337ea6e98_4fa3f9b01ed45b430887 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'd say that we need better justification than "not an outright no". For something like this, control stream seems fine. The frames are small (and could be made smaller by making them deltas, something I'd be happy to see). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2418#issuecomment-460866532 ----==_mimepart_5c5a337ea6e98_4fa3f9b01ed45b430887 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I'd say that we need better justification than "not an outright no". For something like this, control stream seems fine. The frames are small (and could be made smaller by making them deltas, something I'd be happy to see).

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3274,6 +3274,22 @@ The considerations for processing ICMP messages in the previous section also
 apply if these messages are used by DPLPMTUD.
 
 
+### PMTU Probes Containing Source Connection ID
+
+Endpoints that rely on the destination connection ID for routing QUIC packets
+are likely to require that connection ID included in PMTU probe packets in order
+to route resulting ICMP messages ({{icmp-pmtud}}) back to the correct endpoints.
+
+Only long header packets ({{long-header}}) contain source connection IDs, but
+long header packets will not be acknowledged once the connection has been
+established.  One way to construct a PMTU probe is to coalesce (see
+{{packet-coalesce}}) a Handshake packet ({{packet-handshake}}) with a short

@igorlord I am fine with using a Handshake packet considering that this is an example (i.e., "One way of...").

Though personally, I might be interested in sending an 0-RTT packet with zero-length payload (i.e. the Length field set to zero) even just to grease the client implementations.

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@mikkelfj Regarding optimization, an endpoint would rarely send PMTU probes. Therefore, processing of the probe going into a slow path is not an issue. Almost all the packet that the receiver receives would be short header packets.

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Ok.

The problem I see with deltas is that the client can easily blow the limit of Push ID e.g. send 2 maximum varints in a pathological case. This kind of error is not possible with the current design.

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If we varint all the things, how likely is it that malformed frames occur?

Many frames carry just a varint payload, so malformed seems mostly to be that frame length (i.e. payload length) mismatches the sum of received payload parts.

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Thanks Martin, some suggestions

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

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I'd prefer "Packets arrive out when later packets are lost or delayed.= "

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -134,6 +134,11 @@ Crypto Packets:
 
 : Packets containing CRYPTO data sent in Initial or Handshake
   packets.
+  
+Out-of-order Packets:
+
+: Packets that do not increase the largest received packet number for its
+cryptographic context by exactly one.

I think that there are two cases we care about, I only caught the first

  • an earlier packet was delayed - so there is a gap before this one
  • this packet was delayed - and we already received a higher-numbered one

Maybe just: "Packets arrive out of order when packets are lost or delayed." Which doesn't really capture all the reasons, but might suffice.

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@erickinnear Thank you for the comment. I can understan= d the hesitation to having another requirement for the consumer of CIDs.<= /p>

I think I agree to your conclusion that simply clarifying that the iss= uer might cap the limit the total number of CIDs it assigns for each conn= ection would be sufficient (FWIW, I am considering of capping the total t= o 256 CIDs per connection).

My complaint is simply that the current text can be interpreted to ass= ume that it is the issuer's fault when the client aggressively using new = CIDs runs out of spares.

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While we allow the consumer to start using new CIDs anytime, there are consequences of consuming them excessively, as discussed in #2403 starting from this comment.

The text clarifies that excessive consumption is not what the issuer needs to support.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2428

Commit Summary

  • clarify what happens when consuming CIDs excessively

File Changes

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While I can see why you'd limit the frequency of issuing new connection IDs, I don't think you should limit the number of total connection IDs per connection.

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I don't think you should limit the number of total connection IDs per = connection.

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I don't want to put this in the draft. It tells endpoints not to change= connection IDs based on some unspecified (scary!) constraints that may or = may not be present in a peer.

I realize that there might be a limited supply in some implementations, = but artificial constraints on the rate of use is not the way I would addres= s the problem. Refusing or slowing issuance of new connection IDs if someo= ne retires too many is a better approach. In other words, implementations = should deal with this on their own.

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@martinthomson If that's the concern, do you think clari= fying that the issue can "refuse or slow issuance of new connection IDs" = in section 5.1.1 would be fine?

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@kazuho pushed 2 commits.

  • 88fac6e Revert "clarify what happens when consuming CIDs excessively"
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@martinthomson approved this pull request.

This is better, certainly.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -961,12 +961,15 @@ cannot expect its peer to store and use all issued connection IDs.
 An endpoint SHOULD ensure that its peer has a sufficient number of available and
 unused connection IDs.  While each endpoint independently chooses how many
 connection IDs to issue, endpoints SHOULD provide and maintain at least eight
-connection IDs.  The endpoint SHOULD do this by always supplying a new
-connection ID when a connection ID is retired by its peer or when the endpoint
-receives a packet with a previously unused connection ID.  Endpoints that
-initiate migration and require non-zero-length connection IDs SHOULD provide
-their peers with new connection IDs before migration, or risk the peer closing
-the connection.
+connection IDs.  The endpoint SHOULD do this by supplying a new connection ID
+when a connection ID is retired by its peer or when the endpoint receives a
+packet with a previously unused connection ID, though it MAY limit the frequency
+or the total number of connection IDs issued for each connection to avoid the
+risk of running out of connection IDs (see {{reset-token}}).
+
+Endpoints that initiate migration and require non-zero-length connection IDs
+SHOULD provide their peers with new connection IDs before migration, or risk the
+peer closing the connection.

Now that I read this paragraph again, I think that we need to rework it, but that's a separate problem.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -244,11 +249,9 @@ ack-eliciting packet. QUIC recovery algorithms do not assume the peer sends
 an ACK immediately when receiving a second ack-eliciting packet.
 
 In order to accelerate loss recovery and reduce timeouts, the receiver SHOULD
-send an immediate ACK when it receives a new packet which is not one greater
-than the largest received packet number. A receiver MAY send immediate ACKs
-for the next few ack-eliciting packets that are received, but SHOULD NOT
-send an immediate ACK for more than 1/8 RTT after receiving an out-of-order
-packet.
+send immediate ACKs for an interval after it receives an out-of-order packet.

So I'm still not clear. If I get a continuous stream of reordered packets, a) when do I cease immediate ACKs, and b) if I do stop immediate ACKs, when can I start again?

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It rewrites the advice here by observing that QUIC does not inherently present a replay risk. Instead, application protocols, in their use of QUIC, might create an exposure to replay attack. Rather than try to perform an analysis in the transport, based on incomplete information, it is better to outline some risks (STREAM seems like the only obvious one here, frankly, though I've pointed out a couple of anti-patterns that might have accompanying replay risks) and let the application protocol designers perform a more complete analysis. We did that analysis for HTTP. I believe that to be sufficient. Though I might include mention of the fact that stream cancellation and other h2 mechanisms don't carry application semantics, but that is not a major source of regret. 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[ci skip] From nobody Wed Feb 6 01:03:03 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90A05130DD8 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2019 01:02:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -12.552 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-12.552 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VFvBUbVHdezX for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2019 01:02:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA78D130934 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2019 01:02:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2019 01:02:39 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549443759; bh=MptHm/IzQ5CNPDZRcg1q8UpShVFQrfN0oaM26PBRY7Y=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=q1GUILmDqLXSK49JoWEyqYZ8Wg3u/biJKRs6q0Pk6nTAABgOmIgJhTM/Yjzm5frg9 zzSwLg08vdhQlr7WyqVFtCYVKlSw0bKENZB1ldGiuazGmzsNqch5/tdvN8wg1/D5rK ots7ISBqspfZYtotWQPPUBldHJrAegHcT1Spcq8c= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Replay protection is the responsibility of application protocols (9400c2f) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c5aa2afe073d_191f3fa14b4d45b410191d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2019 09:03:02 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c5aa2afe073d_191f3fa14b4d45b410191d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think the application has a lot more useful information, but the application has no control over network configuration: it cannot see what lands on other endpoints, at least not without a heavy cost. So therefore, if we can truly enforce replay rejection at transport level, that would be a much saner approach, even if it places more restrictions on 0-RTT usage. While being safer against accidental mistakes, it also makes 0-RTT more useful, as you can do more things in 0-RTT. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9400c2f9b2c5a235ce15377538bc8dc354467f39#commitcomment-32209894 ----==_mimepart_5c5aa2afe073d_191f3fa14b4d45b410191d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I think the application has a lot more useful information, but the app= lication has no control over network configuration: it cannot see what la= nds on other endpoints, at least not without a heavy cost. So therefore, = if we can truly enforce replay rejection at transport level, that would b= e a much saner approach, even if it places more restrictions on 0-RTT usa= ge. While being safer against accidental mistakes, it also makes 0-RTT mo= re useful, as you can do more things in 0-RTT.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

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 ~~~~~~~~~~
 {: #fig-frame title="HTTP/3 frame format"}
 
 A frame includes the following fields:
 
+  Type:
+  : An 8-bit type for the frame.
+
+
   Length:
   : A variable-length integer that describes the length of the Frame Payload.
     This length does not include the Type field.

With reordering the "Length" description no longer makes sense. If anything, length should state that it does not include itself.

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Now that length is no longer first, I think the length description should be updated to clarify what it includes: it says it does not include the type, but the type precedes it. Does it include the length itself? Many designs mix do this, and some designs have both styles in the same message.

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@kazuho the problem is not slow pathing rare packets, but fast = pathing approved connections - so they never parse anything but short hea= ders or fail.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -244,11 +249,9 @@ ack-eliciting packet. QUIC recovery algorithms do not assume the peer sends
 an ACK immediately when receiving a second ack-eliciting packet.
 
 In order to accelerate loss recovery and reduce timeouts, the receiver SHOULD
-send an immediate ACK when it receives a new packet which is not one greater
-than the largest received packet number. A receiver MAY send immediate ACKs
-for the next few ack-eliciting packets that are received, but SHOULD NOT
-send an immediate ACK for more than 1/8 RTT after receiving an out-of-order
-packet.
+send immediate ACKs for an interval after it receives an out-of-order packet.

If every packet is reordered(ie: every other packet is missing), then you keep sending immediate ACKs.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1463,6 +1463,13 @@ could pose a security risk to an incautious implementer.  An implementation MUST
 ensure that the length of a frame exactly matches the length of the fields it
 contains.
 
+Certain HTTP implementations use the client address for logging or

Can you add a sub-heading(##) for each of these considerations, like in the transport draft?

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----==_mimepart_5c5ab18162ac1_7f553f9c878d45c4430320-- From nobody Wed Feb 6 02:12:43 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2B92124D68 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2019 02:12:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -11.149 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-11.149 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 55KIvr98MTnI for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2019 02:12:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2BA4512426E for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2019 02:12:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2019 02:12:39 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549447959; bh=Eyk2muh0gqzmna9N1x6NOeZOLZdvQ0lHzP/HFnQ8ILo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=dfmTp1jXlqfIaAT2agNq3ueoR6K6zVfM55cKZfVHbFFWOYLXstgF1C2uvw0E3JrRC ADmx26uYSEl3VMl6TXKFiorSmw1D3O6NmqIHgVNjBmSgeH0CQGRCH6ANSdGWgkWZ4o SGLSa4riTMY01wjW6PT5ahs6qD5+usHxZx9XVmBE= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] update the pseudo code to include packet number spaces (#2417) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c5ab31741375_8c53f8d230d45b837675"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2019 10:12:42 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c5ab31741375_8c53f8d230d45b837675 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ianswett commented on this pull request. Thanks for fixing this Marten, it looks good. One suggestion. > @@ -890,8 +891,9 @@ follows: min_rtt = infinite time_of_last_sent_ack_eliciting_packet = 0 time_of_last_sent_crypto_packet = 0 - largest_sent_packet = 0 - largest_acked_packet = 0 + for pn_space in packet number spaces: I think we should define packet number spaces more clearly above, and possibly call it kPacketNumberSpaces. I think it makes sense to define it as a list of 3 enum values. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2417#pullrequestreview-200495063 ----==_mimepart_5c5ab31741375_8c53f8d230d45b837675 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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Thanks for fixing this Marten, it looks good. One suggestion.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -890,8 +891,9 @@ follows:
    min_rtt = infinite
    time_of_last_sent_ack_eliciting_packet = 0
    time_of_last_sent_crypto_packet = 0
-   largest_sent_packet = 0
-   largest_acked_packet = 0
+   for pn_space in packet number spaces:

I think we should define packet number spaces more clearly above, and possibly call it kPacketNumberSpaces. I think it makes sense to define it as a list of 3 enum values.

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The probe is a part of the connection. Otherwise it will not elicit an ACK of the coalesced short packet.

I am a bit confused that we are discussing the cost of a single if statement.

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The probe is a part of the connection. Otherwise it will not elicit an A= CK of the coalesced short packet.
But it will use a dedicated connection ID.

I am a bit confused that we are discussing the cost of a single if state= ment.

Yes, but it still impacts the design because the first thing I would do = would be to look up bytes 1-4 in a hash table and call a handler function t= hat has no context for handshake. So it will now have to add an indirection= and process packets it does not understand. It can't be the same logic as = the one that handles handshakes, because it would start by verifying the pa= cket.

Or that initial lookup would would have to first check the packet type a= nd go slow path, but the context must be looked up by ID, and the general s= low path expects context, or it will drop packets. But you can't do that he= re, because there is no context. So you have to special handle that.

So performance-wise it would be survivable, just pretty ugly.

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I also don't understand exactly the purpose of the source id:
Is it
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b) do you expect ICMP to be routed based on the QUIC headers?

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -890,8 +891,9 @@ follows:
    min_rtt = infinite
    time_of_last_sent_ack_eliciting_packet = 0
    time_of_last_sent_crypto_packet = 0
-   largest_sent_packet = 0
-   largest_acked_packet = 0
+   for pn_space in packet number spaces:

Not sure if we need that constant, since we're only looping over the spaces once (and only for initialization), but I introduced the enum.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -903,20 +915,22 @@ to OnPacketSent are described in detail above in {{sent-packets-fields}}.
 Pseudocode for OnPacketSent follows:
 
 ~~~
- OnPacketSent(packet_number, ack_eliciting, in_flight,
-              is_crypto_packet, sent_bytes):
-   largest_sent_packet = packet_number
-   sent_packets[packet_number].packet_number = packet_number
-   sent_packets[packet_number].time_sent = now
-   sent_packets[packet_number].ack_eliciting = ack_eliciting
-   sent_packets[packet_number].in_flight = in_flight
+ OnPacketSent(packet_number, pn_space, ack_eliciting,

Using pn_space for the variable name and the type is confusing. I think the enum should be kPacketNumberSpace

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Fixes #2276 * Martin's comments * Clarify 0-RTT a little more From nobody Wed Feb 6 09:11:04 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C64F3130EA3 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2019 09:10:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.935 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.935 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wo_sJgMFYAqs for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2019 09:10:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-11.smtp.github.com (out-11.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A5E20130E93 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2019 09:10:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2019 09:10:54 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549473054; bh=qDV6V8lXDrepjpBhxoWf+DgttaEvK7+oznMw3rs2wwo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=zH3EBteoenDSGmqJf8usgFzGiCewFfxsiMmxbNxNSV7XPF0YDe18j5owgoo2662wY W4kIiQIS8bTX8VUlNM8ZZEi5jou08Toh+R6SGc0fkhULs1luOC3vOWPaQeBxnFNvms 7A3WexFCw6+AO2kLL4j5+mVB18p7d5esZQHUr+i4= From: afrind Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QPACK: Clarify how maximum dynamic table capacity can be set (#2330) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c5b151e29afc_3b43fc19a8d45b46968d6"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: afrind X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2019 17:10:56 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c5b151e29afc_3b43fc19a8d45b46968d6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Merged #2330 into master. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Per #2100 discussion, we will handle this in a different way.

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Fixed by #2330

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Fixed by #2112

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This seems unnecessarily wishy-washy. Either they're reserved by definition, and therefore will never represent a real protocol, or they're available for use.

We should remove the "probably" unless there's a good reason to keep it that I'm missing.

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Previously, this was only a failure to remove packet protection; incorrect version is added as another example inconsistency. Note that this phrasing doesn't rule out upward-VN like #1773, since receiving an expected upgrade is not inconsistent with your local state. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2431 -- Commit Summary -- * Discard inconsistent packets -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (6) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2431.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2431.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2431 ----==_mimepart_5c5b303552a4a_50f43fa5748d45c444671b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Fixes #2397 by discarding packets which are "inconsistent with the state of the connection." Previously, this was only a failure to remove packet protection; incorrect version is added as another example inconsistency.

Note that this phrasing doesn't rule out upward-VN like #1773, since receiving an expected upgrade is not inconsistent with your local state.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2431

Commit Summary

  • Discard inconsistent packets

File Changes

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Yes, ignored; they were valid in HTTP/2 as well. They append zero bytes to the output, which means no net effect.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  endpoints retaining a stable address for the duration of the handshake.
+An endpoint MUST NOT initiate connection migration before the handshake is
+finished for it and its peer and the endpoint has 1-RTT keys. This means
+that the server MUST NOT initiate connection migration before it has
+received at least one 1-RTT data from the client, and the client 
+MUST NOT initiate connection migration before receiving 
+acknowledgement by the server of at least one of its
+1-RTT messages.

@ianswett, a 1-RTT ACK frame might acknowledge only 0-RTT packets. You need confirmation that the server has received and parsed at least one 1-RTT packet, no?

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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  endpoints retaining a stable address for the duration of the handshake.
+An endpoint MUST NOT initiate connection migration before the handshake is
+finished for it and its peer and the endpoint has 1-RTT keys. This means
+that the server MUST NOT initiate connection migration before it has
+received at least one 1-RTT data from the client, and the client 
+MUST NOT initiate connection migration before receiving 
+acknowledgement by the server of at least one of its
+1-RTT messages.

Yes, it would have to be that a 1RTT packet was acknowledged, as you point out.

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As to the H3 question, the spec currently says:

When a stream is closed, this indicates the end of an HTTP message. Be= cause some messages are large or unbounded, endpoints SHOULD begin proces= sing partial HTTP messages once enough of the message has been received t= o make progress. If a client stream terminates without enough of the HTTP= message to provide a complete response, the server SHOULD abort its resp= onse with the error code HTTP_INCOMPLETE_REQUEST.

The stream might have closed because of a FIN or a RESET; if the entir= e request arrived intact, the server can proceed to respond; the RESET ju= st means that no attempt will be made to repair any losses. A STOP_SENDI= NG, however, means that you don't want the response even if the request w= ent through.

Thus:

Clients can cancel requests by aborting the stream (QUIC RESET_STREAM = and/or STOP_SENDING frames, as appropriate) with an error code of HTTP_RE= QUEST_CANCELLED (Section 8.1). When the client cancels a response, it ind= icates that this response is no longer of interest. Implementations SHOUL= D cancel requests by aborting both directions of a stream.

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The problem with migrating with an empty CID is that the recipient can= 't identify which connection it should be considered for. It's going to = have to do trial decryption with the keys for all current 0LCID connectio= ns on that destination port if it wants to permit that. (In fact, I'm fa= irly sure we previously had text that said if you couldn't match a packet= to exactly one connection upon receipt, you had to drop it; that seems t= o have been removed.) On a NAT rebinding, a server could say that if the= IP matches and only the port has changed, it might still match a singula= r existing connection.

That's only safe if the server is using a unique port for each connect= ion, which seems unlikely.

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As noted in #2413, this PR permits something that's currently prohibited intentionally -- migrating with a zero-length CID. Do we have consensus to make that change?

If there's no CID and the packet is coming from an unknown remote address, how does the server know what keys to use to remove packet protection in that case? We've previously said we need to avoid trial decryption, and that seems like the only option if migration is permitted.

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@mikkelfj commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> +
+As described in Section 8 of {{!TLS13}}, use of TLS early data comes with an
+exposure to replay attack.  The use of 0-RTT in QUIC is similarly vulnerable to
+replay attack.
+
+Endpoints MUST implement and use the replay protections described in {{!TLS13}},
+however it is recognized that these protections are imperfect.  Therefore,
+additional consideration of the risk of replay are needed.
+
+QUIC is not inherently vulnerable to replay attack.  The management of QUIC
+protocol state based on the frame types defined in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}} is not
+vulnerable to replay.  Processing of QUIC frames is idempotent and cannot result
+in invalid connection states if frames are reordered or lost.  QUIC connections
+do not produce effects that last beyond the lifetime of the connection, except
+for those produced by the application protocol that QUIC serves.
+

Except new 0-RTT tokens, which of course are made under 1-RTT.

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QUIC RESET_STREAM and/or STOP_SENDING

Is that really true? RESET is the senders responsibility, and it only applies to one direction of a bidi stream. STOP_SENDING is the receivers responsibility. Or what am I missing?

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@mikkelfj commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1010,8 +1010,10 @@ Endpoints can send a Stateless Reset ({{stateless-reset}}) for any packets that
 cannot be attributed to an existing connection. A stateless reset allows a peer
 to more quickly identify when a connection becomes unusable.
 
-Packets that are matched to an existing connection, but for which the endpoint
-cannot remove packet protection, are discarded.
+Packets that are matched to an existing connection are discarded if the packets
+are inconsistent with the state of that connection -- for example, if they
+indicate a different protocol version than that of the connection, or if the
+endpoint cannot remove packet protection.

During handshake, reordering can lead to temporarily undecryptable content which may be discarded or buffered. This is technically not inconsistent with state, but the above formulation could suggest to always drop such packets.

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Yes, I think that this was a mistake on my part. Clearly, if there is no connection ID on outward-bound packets, migration is generally inadvisable. I'll update the PR.

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----==_mimepart_5c5b564547846_14763fd40a0d45bc21133e-- From nobody Wed Feb 6 13:50:37 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DF98130EE2 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2019 13:50:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -11.149 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-11.149 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dicK2gMJpOjc for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2019 13:50:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 37ABB12D4F3 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2019 13:50:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2019 13:50:29 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549489830; bh=jOLj/2ommuPaa8LkFhkWjwCkDhOxzTZKPVwW2SsuB60=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=w4iSDKAULZOtMxNZBynUN6OljnHCkGZQE7+oIlVpS9L/tC/puXfN4cc/Y4sTtO4Wu kqNn3RQQSP1G+kMdpIr4HDScHIMaqQviOestSsLSph1IQDu5BG5k4szEgUNyubr6Ti TXnr1trYhwG9CeMf/vHMIgMixVA05P//E3Nwt5yc= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Persistent Congestion Time Threshold (#2365) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c5b56a5f15b8_129e3fe0b9ed45c05325cf"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2019 21:50:35 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c5b56a5f15b8_129e3fe0b9ed45c05325cf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ianswett commented on this pull request. > @@ -1282,15 +1287,27 @@ Invoked by loss detection from DetectLostPackets when new packets are detected lost. ~~~ + InPersistentCongestion(oldest_loss_time): + congestion_period = Now() - oldest_loss_time I think I concluded newest_lost_time - oldest_loss_time is the best option here. Using Now() means that a single lost packet combined with some temporary ack loss causes this to trigger, which I do not believe is the intent. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2365#pullrequestreview-200823494 ----==_mimepart_5c5b56a5f15b8_129e3fe0b9ed45c05325cf Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1282,15 +1287,27 @@ Invoked by loss detection from DetectLostPackets when new packets
 are detected lost.
 
 ~~~
+   InPersistentCongestion(oldest_loss_time):
+     congestion_period = Now() - oldest_loss_time

I think I concluded newest_lost_time - oldest_loss_time is the best option here. Using Now() means that a single lost packet combined with some temporary ack loss causes this to trigger, which I do not believe is the intent.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  
      // Start a new congestion epoch if the last lost packet
      // is past the end of the previous recovery epoch.
-     CongestionEvent(largest_lost_packet.time_sent)
+     CongestionEvent(newest_lost_packet.time_sent)
+
+     // Collapse congestion window if persistent congestion
+     if (InPersistentCongestion(oldest_lost_packet.time_sent)):

I'd like the opinion of @janaiyengar here. I think this is likely fairly good, but I think passing in newest_lost_time is easy and more correct, given they're easily available in the pseudocode.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  
      // Start a new congestion epoch if the last lost packet
      // is past the end of the previous recovery epoch.
-     CongestionEvent(largest_lost_packet.time_sent)
+     CongestionEvent(newest_lost_packet.time_sent)
+
+     // Collapse congestion window if persistent congestion
+     if (InPersistentCongestion(oldest_lost_packet.time_sent)):

Let me propose an example. Assume smooth_rtted = 1 sec, rttvar = 0, max_ack_delay = 0 for simplicity's sake.

t=0 | Send Pkt #1 (App Data)
t=1 | Send Pkt #2 (PTO 1)
t=3 | Send Pkt #3 (PTO 2)
t=7 | Send Pkt #4 (PTO 3)
t=8 | Recv ACK of Pkt #4

At t=8 you'd get a congestion event for packets 1 & 2 being lost. If you use Now() for the persistent congestion calculation, this would be declared as persistent congestion. If you used newest_lost_time it wouldn't. Which behavior do we want?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1010,8 +1010,10 @@ Endpoints can send a Stateless Reset ({{stateless-reset}}) for any packets that
 cannot be attributed to an existing connection. A stateless reset allows a peer
 to more quickly identify when a connection becomes unusable.
 
-Packets that are matched to an existing connection, but for which the endpoint
-cannot remove packet protection, are discarded.
+Packets that are matched to an existing connection are discarded if the packets
+are inconsistent with the state of that connection -- for example, if they
+indicate a different protocol version than that of the connection, or if the
+endpoint cannot remove packet protection.

Perhaps "if removal of packet protection fails" would exclude the case where it can't be attempted yet?

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Since QUIC provides 0-RTT support, it really should.

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Fixes #2432.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2433

Commit Summary

  • Require RFC8470

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We only talk about reserved versions in the transport document. Since they're used to trigger VN, they need to be version independent. Should they be moved to the invariants?

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -903,20 +915,22 @@ to OnPacketSent are described in detail above in {{sent-packets-fields}}.
 Pseudocode for OnPacketSent follows:
 
 ~~~
- OnPacketSent(packet_number, ack_eliciting, in_flight,
-              is_crypto_packet, sent_bytes):
-   largest_sent_packet = packet_number
-   sent_packets[packet_number].packet_number = packet_number
-   sent_packets[packet_number].time_sent = now
-   sent_packets[packet_number].ack_eliciting = ack_eliciting
-   sent_packets[packet_number].in_flight = in_flight
+ OnPacketSent(packet_number, pn_space, ack_eliciting,

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We claim that

Data in CRYPTO frames is critical to QUIC transport and crypto negotiation, so a more aggressive timeout is used to retransmit it.

As pointed out in #2417, the only mechanisms we have for retransmitting crypto packets is Fast Retransmit (i.e. when an ACK declares a packet lost) and the Crypto Retransmission timer. Specifically, we don't have an Early Retransmit timer for crypto packets. This means that if a tail packet in one packet number space is lost, we wait 2 RTTs before retransmitting it, whereas with Early Retransmit the retransmission would have happened after 9/8 RTT.

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LGTM modulo the point below.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

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> @@ -819,6 +819,16 @@ kGranularity:=0D
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+kPacketNumberSpace:=0D
+: An enum to enumerate the three packet number spaces.=0D
+~~~=0D
+  enum kPacketNumberSpace {=0D
+    Initial,=0D
+    Handshake,=0D
+    1-RTT,=0D
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This supercedes what I added in #2355.

Not sure that we need the exposition, given the risk of getting things subtly wrong though.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -234,6 +234,17 @@ SETTINGS frame. After the QUIC connection is established, a SETTINGS frame
 ({{frame-settings}}) MUST be sent by each endpoint as the initial frame of their
 respective HTTP control stream (see {{control-streams}}).
 
+## Early Data and HTTP/3
+
+QUIC provides a facility for early data during the first flight of packets sent
+by the client.  Early data is not subject to the same security guarantees as
+data sent after the handshake completes.  In particular, this data can be
+replayed by an attacker able to capture the packets and the server will not know

This isn't entirely true. Capturing and replaying packets is not sufficient, or even necessary for an attack. I would instead point at TLS 1.3 and the discussion about what can happen there than try to repeat it.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -244,11 +249,9 @@ ack-eliciting packet. QUIC recovery algorithms do not assume the peer sends
 an ACK immediately when receiving a second ack-eliciting packet.
 
 In order to accelerate loss recovery and reduce timeouts, the receiver SHOULD
-send an immediate ACK when it receives a new packet which is not one greater
-than the largest received packet number. A receiver MAY send immediate ACKs
-for the next few ack-eliciting packets that are received, but SHOULD NOT
-send an immediate ACK for more than 1/8 RTT after receiving an out-of-order
-packet.
+send immediate ACKs for an interval after it receives an out-of-order packet.

So it isn't the first immediate ACK, it's every out-of-order packet that starts (or refreshes) a 1/8 RTT timer. That helps.

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@martinthomson approved this pull request.

Unfortunately, this is a design change, and a new one.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1010,8 +1010,10 @@ Endpoints can send a Stateless Reset ({{stateless-reset}}) for any packets that
 cannot be attributed to an existing connection. A stateless reset allows a peer
 to more quickly identify when a connection becomes unusable.
 
-Packets that are matched to an existing connection, but for which the endpoint
-cannot remove packet protection, are discarded.
+Packets that are matched to an existing connection are discarded if the packets
+are inconsistent with the state of that connection -- for example, if they

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -819,6 +819,16 @@ kGranularity:
 kInitialRtt:
 : The RTT used before an RTT sample is taken. The RECOMMENDED value is 100ms.
 
+kPacketNumberSpace:
+: An enum to enumerate the three packet number spaces.
+~~~
+  enum kPacketNumberSpace {
+    Initial,
+    Handshake,
+    1-RTT,

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  • 95a13b3 remove the CONNECTION_ID_LIMIT_ERROR error code

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I removed the error code. PHAL.

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While each endpoint independently chooses how many -connection IDs to issue, endpoints SHOULD provide and maintain at least eight -connection IDs. The endpoint SHOULD do this by always supplying a new -connection ID when a connection ID is retired by its peer or when the endpoint -receives a packet with a previously unused connection ID. Endpoints that -initiate migration and require non-zero-length connection IDs SHOULD provide -their peers with new connection IDs before migration, or risk the peer closing -the connection. +unused connection IDs. Endpoints store received connection IDs for future use. +An endpoint uses a transport parameter to advertise the number of connection IDs +it can store for future use. An endpoint SHOULD NOT provide more connection IDs +than this limit. If an endpoint has provided its peer with the maximum number of +connection IDs, it SHOULD only provide a new connection ID when the peer retires +one. Endpoints that initiate migration and require non-zero-length connection +IDs SHOULD provide their peers with new connection IDs before migration, or risk +the peer closing the connection. There are a lot of SHOULDs here, but it's a bit light on the associated justification. I think that we'll need some more text about why an endpoint might choose not to follow this advice. Having everything in the one paragraph will make that difficult. > @@ -4106,6 +4102,12 @@ A client MUST NOT include an original connection ID, a stateless reset token, or a preferred address. A server MUST treat receipt of any of these transport parameters as a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR. +max_connection_ids (0x000e): + +: The maximum number of connection IDs that the peer is willing to store. + This value includes only connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames. + If this parameter is absent, a default of 0 is assumed. I'd really like to be able to not send this. 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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -unused connection IDs.  While each endpoint independently chooses how many
-connection IDs to issue, endpoints SHOULD provide and maintain at least eight
-connection IDs.  The endpoint SHOULD do this by always supplying a new
-connection ID when a connection ID is retired by its peer or when the endpoint
-receives a packet with a previously unused connection ID.  Endpoints that
-initiate migration and require non-zero-length connection IDs SHOULD provide
-their peers with new connection IDs before migration, or risk the peer closing
-the connection.
+unused connection IDs. Endpoints store received connection IDs for future use.
+An endpoint uses a transport parameter to advertise the number of connection IDs
+it can store for future use. An endpoint SHOULD NOT provide more connection IDs
+than this limit. If an endpoint has provided its peer with the maximum number of
+connection IDs, it SHOULD only provide a new connection ID when the peer retires
+one. Endpoints that initiate migration and require non-zero-length connection
+IDs SHOULD provide their peers with new connection IDs before migration, or risk
+the peer closing the connection.

There are a lot of SHOULDs here, but it's a bit light on the associated justification. I think that we'll need some more text about why an endpoint might choose not to follow this advice. Having everything in the one paragraph will make that difficult.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4106,6 +4102,12 @@ A client MUST NOT include an original connection ID, a stateless reset token, or
 a preferred address.  A server MUST treat receipt of any of these transport
 parameters as a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR.
 
+max_connection_ids (0x000e):
+
+: The maximum number of connection IDs that the peer is willing to store.
+  This value includes only connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames.
+  If this parameter is absent, a default of 0 is assumed.

I'd really like to be able to not send this. Is 0 really the right answer?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4106,6 +4102,12 @@ A client MUST NOT include an original connection ID, a stateless reset token, or
 a preferred address.  A server MUST treat receipt of any of these transport
 parameters as a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR.
 
+max_connection_ids (0x000e):
+
+: The maximum number of connection IDs that the peer is willing to store.
+  This value includes only connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames.
+  If this parameter is absent, a default of 0 is assumed.

We had a recommended value previously, let's pull that value over and have the default value conversation separately?

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----==_mimepart_5c5ba30bbcd67_5fc23f7f21ed45c41118d0-- From nobody Wed Feb 6 19:26:53 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAC4F131007 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2019 19:26:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -12.553 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-12.553 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5eG1Z9uIUXlF for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2019 19:26:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0966A130E11 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2019 19:26:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2019 19:26:49 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549510009; bh=WHmt+MMfb3g6bw4QsCHnkcaIr7cqyocSF1yQ9StMZEg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ERhMjNiuc+jUUNSzpf+C70tvs0RltzG6/59KcF7mHkcLezr2Ungz43Z+2/9+hS09y PeIJwmHwOs3qyMClPE4y/udtYAwYYuup+6ticd0sivEYBu0LROvJ9sSf2fHeuzk0UW Ds4GruehwXIRBGdNxatVkyJDNTOEKjo569mpNNdw= From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] introduce a max_connection_ids transport parameter (#1998) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c5ba57946c_3a9d3f9b252d45c4830a2"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2019 03:26:52 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c5ba57946c_3a9d3f9b252d45c4830a2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit marten-seemann commented on this pull request. > @@ -4106,6 +4102,12 @@ A client MUST NOT include an original connection ID, a stateless reset token, or a preferred address. A server MUST treat receipt of any of these transport parameters as a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR. +max_connection_ids (0x000e): + +: The maximum number of connection IDs that the peer is willing to store. + This value includes only connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames. + If this parameter is absent, a default of 0 is assumed. We discussed this before in https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1998#discussion_r233121475. We're using 0 as the default value for all flow control and stream limit values, so at least this seems consistent. In Tokyo we had disagreement about what a reasonable default should be. @ianswett advocated for 2 or 3, if I remember correctly, while other people want 8. One reason for moving forward with this PR was exactly the fact that people have different use cases in mind, and there's no one-size-fits-all value. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1998#discussion_r254536703 ----==_mimepart_5c5ba57946c_3a9d3f9b252d45c4830a2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4106,6 +4102,12 @@ A client MUST NOT include an original connection ID, a stateless reset token, or
 a preferred address.  A server MUST treat receipt of any of these transport
 parameters as a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR.
 
+max_connection_ids (0x000e):
+
+: The maximum number of connection IDs that the peer is willing to store.
+  This value includes only connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames.
+  If this parameter is absent, a default of 0 is assumed.

We discussed this before in #1998 (comment). We're using 0 as the default value for all flow control and stream limit values, so at least this seems consistent.

In Tokyo we had disagreement about what a reasonable default should be. @ianswett advocated for 2 or 3, if I remember correctly, while other people want 8. One reason for moving forward with this PR was exactly the fact that people have different use cases in mind, and there's no one-size-fits-all value.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3981,6 +3979,12 @@ A client MUST NOT include an original connection ID, a stateless reset token, or
 a preferred address.  A server MUST treat receipt of any of these transport
 parameters as a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR.
 
+max_connection_ids (0x000e):
+
+: The maximum number of connection IDs that the peer is willing to store.
+  This value includes only connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames.

If a server has sent a CID as part of SPA, what sequence number does it use for the next NCID?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4106,6 +4102,12 @@ A client MUST NOT include an original connection ID, a stateless reset token, or
 a preferred address.  A server MUST treat receipt of any of these transport
 parameters as a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR.
 
+max_connection_ids (0x000e):
+
+: The maximum number of connection IDs that the peer is willing to store.
+  This value includes only connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames.
+  If this parameter is absent, a default of 0 is assumed.

What if an endpoint set both "migration disabled = 0" (default) and "max CID=0" (default)? Should that trigger a protocol error?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4106,6 +4102,12 @@ A client MUST NOT include an original connection ID, a stateless reset token, or
 a preferred address.  A server MUST treat receipt of any of these transport
 parameters as a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR.
 
+max_connection_ids (0x000e):
+
+: The maximum number of connection IDs that the peer is willing to store.
+  This value includes only connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames.
+  If this parameter is absent, a default of 0 is assumed.

By the way, we already use no zero defaults for some parameters: ack_delay_exponent defaults to 3, and max_ack_delay defaults to 25. There is no rule that says that forbids us to set a non zero default for the proposed MAX CID parameter. I would think that 3 is a good number.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3981,6 +3979,12 @@ A client MUST NOT include an original connection ID, a stateless reset token, or
 a preferred address.  A server MUST treat receipt of any of these transport
 parameters as a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR.
 
+max_connection_ids (0x000e):
+
+: The maximum number of connection IDs that the peer is willing to store.
+  This value includes only connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames.

@huitema I think this is unrelated to this PR. We have text about that in https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#issue-cid.

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@huitema commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3981,6 +3979,12 @@ A client MUST NOT include an original connection ID, a stateless reset token, or
 a preferred address.  A server MUST treat receipt of any of these transport
 parameters as a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR.
 
+max_connection_ids (0x000e):
+
+: The maximum number of connection IDs that the peer is willing to store.
+  This value includes only connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames.

It is not unrelated. The sequence number is a direct statement on the number of CID out there. I would very much like to have just one number to test. Say, state "sequence number should be lower than the number of retired CID plus the max number of CID accepted by the peer".

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The PR looks good to me, but I think we might want to consider changes like below to better clarify how the design works. > @@ -3274,6 +3275,22 @@ The considerations for processing ICMP messages in the previous section also apply if these messages are used by DPLPMTUD. +### PMTU Probes Containing Source Connection ID {#pmtu-probes-src-cid} + +Endpoints that rely on the destination connection ID for routing QUIC packets +are likely to require that connection ID included in PMTU probe packets in order +to route resulting ICMP messages ({{icmp-pmtud}}) back to the correct endpoints. + +Only long header packets ({{long-header}}) contain source connection IDs, but +long header packets will not be acknowledged once the connection has been How about changing "will not be acknowledged once the connection has been established" to "will not be decrypted or acknowledged by the peer once the handshake is complete"? I think that might help readers trying to understand the design. > @@ -3274,6 +3275,22 @@ The considerations for processing ICMP messages in the previous section also apply if these messages are used by DPLPMTUD. +### PMTU Probes Containing Source Connection ID {#pmtu-probes-src-cid} + +Endpoints that rely on the destination connection ID for routing QUIC packets +are likely to require that connection ID included in PMTU probe packets in order +to route resulting ICMP messages ({{icmp-pmtud}}) back to the correct endpoints. + +Only long header packets ({{long-header}}) contain source connection IDs, but +long header packets will not be acknowledged once the connection has been +established. One way to construct a PMTU probe is to coalesce (see +{{packet-coalesce}}) a Handshake packet ({{packet-handshake}}) with a short +header packet in a single UDP datagram. If the UDP datagram reaches the +endpoint, the short header packet will be acknowledged. If the UDP datagram Maybe we can add "regardless of if the Handshake packet was processed" at the end of the sentence. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2402#pullrequestreview-200939763 ----==_mimepart_5c5bd721d7c0_42c03fb6d2cd45c43645bf Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@kazuho approved this pull request.

The PR looks good to me, but I think we might want to consider changes like below to better clarify how the design works.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3274,6 +3275,22 @@ The considerations for processing ICMP messages in the previous section also
 apply if these messages are used by DPLPMTUD.
 
 
+### PMTU Probes Containing Source Connection ID {#pmtu-probes-src-cid}
+
+Endpoints that rely on the destination connection ID for routing QUIC packets
+are likely to require that connection ID included in PMTU probe packets in order
+to route resulting ICMP messages ({{icmp-pmtud}}) back to the correct endpoints.
+
+Only long header packets ({{long-header}}) contain source connection IDs, but
+long header packets will not be acknowledged once the connection has been

How about changing "will not be acknowledged once the connection has been established" to "will not be decrypted or acknowledged by the peer once the handshake is complete"?

I think that might help readers trying to understand the design.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3274,6 +3275,22 @@ The considerations for processing ICMP messages in the previous section also
 apply if these messages are used by DPLPMTUD.
 
 
+### PMTU Probes Containing Source Connection ID {#pmtu-probes-src-cid}
+
+Endpoints that rely on the destination connection ID for routing QUIC packets
+are likely to require that connection ID included in PMTU probe packets in order
+to route resulting ICMP messages ({{icmp-pmtud}}) back to the correct endpoints.
+
+Only long header packets ({{long-header}}) contain source connection IDs, but
+long header packets will not be acknowledged once the connection has been
+established.  One way to construct a PMTU probe is to coalesce (see
+{{packet-coalesce}}) a Handshake packet ({{packet-handshake}}) with a short
+header packet in a single UDP datagram.  If the UDP datagram reaches the
+endpoint, the short header packet will be acknowledged.  If the UDP datagram

Maybe we can add "regardless of if the Handshake packet was processed" at the end of the sentence.

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@martinthomson > Unfortunately, this is a design change, and a new one.

just to be clear, are you referring to my comment on a limit of eight, or something earlier?

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At the moment, the transport draft assumes that the issuer of CIDs is = going to issue new ones as the consumer retires them. Quoting from section 5.1.1 of the transport draft, t= he issuer SHOULD do this by always supplying a new c= onnection ID when a connection ID is retired by its peer or when the endp= oint receives a packet with a previously unused connection ID (empha= sis mine).

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However, simply following the provision introduces a DoS attack vector= .

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Malicious clients can connect to a server and consume CIDs as fast as = they can. Assuming that the server tries to provide 8 spare CIDs, a clien= t with 10ms RTT can consume 800 CIDs per second (=E2=89=88 216= CIDs per minute per connection). This is especially a risk to servers us= ing minimally-sized CIDs (which is 32-bits). An attacker controlling 256 = connections can consume all the CIDs in 4 hours. Because a server cannot = reuse a CID as frequently as that (because it cannot rotate the secret us= ed to generate stateless reset tokens very often). This would be a risk f= or clustered servers using longer CIDs as well, because the number-space = used to identify each path within each server is expected to consume only= some of the bits of the CID.

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Therefore, it is preferable to clarify that a server might want to rat= e-limit the issuance of CIDs or simply limit the total number of CIDs bei= ng issued for each connection. Hence PR #2428.

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@mikkelfj I do not think that's a viable option, because a s= tateless reset token cannot be tied to a particular client IP address.=0D

Assuming that the server ties CID=E2=80=99s to 5-tuples, an attacker t= hat observes the CID can send a packet carrying that CID from a different= client address to obtain the stateless reset token, then use that to ter= minate a connection.

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=0D= = ----==_mimepart_5c5bf0aa5b184_44703fcaf58d45b41090f8-- From nobody Thu Feb 7 00:54:03 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 861E81310FD for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2019 00:54:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -11.007 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-11.007 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OwQlTKAPAlBQ for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2019 00:54:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC0E71310F5 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2019 00:53:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2019 00:53:59 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549529639; bh=ioUFX8PfeHlyqIoK1VQDPtb9no4JBwbvF83siQJvz8M=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=G0fuH7eY/VETilAEADTHgWLXWvymUD4KnIMssCRO+fqcluZSpZptqL+Ho07++AC9/ n6JcCmJGFqvijMa9qH+D5DeEFP67UmB5BpjvUsABklQ/cUKzLpyaj+0Dvzgxb/jXYi HpmLhxHCpPanybRsHF/GtAMOpvH5I0RNXcscesj8= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] rate-limiting of CID issuance needs to be allowed (#2436) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c5bf2271f647_43353fa6e6cd45c03686"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2019 08:54:02 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c5bf2271f647_43353fa6e6cd45c03686 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So you are saying that a reset cannot be tied to a 5-tuple. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2436#issuecomment-461335103 ----==_mimepart_5c5bf2271f647_43353fa6e6cd45c03686 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

So you are saying that a reset cannot be tied to a 5-tuple.

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Correct. Or maybe I should have pointed out that if a server ties CID to 5-tuple, a connection would die once a NAT rebinding happens (without client knowing that).

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -819,6 +819,16 @@ kGranularity:
 kInitialRtt:
 : The RTT used before an RTT sample is taken. The RECOMMENDED value is 100ms.
 
+kPacketNumberSpace:
+: An enum to enumerate the three packet number spaces.
+~~~
+  enum kPacketNumberSpace {
+    Initial,
+    Handshake,
+    Application data,

It's an enum, so how about ApplicationData

OT: At some point there's a hope to make this pseudocode compile in Python.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -819,6 +819,16 @@ kGranularity:
 kInitialRtt:
 : The RTT used before an RTT sample is taken. The RECOMMENDED value is 100ms.
 
+kPacketNumberSpace:
+: An enum to enumerate the three packet number spaces.
+~~~
+  enum kPacketNumberSpace {
+    Initial,
+    Handshake,
+    Application data,

Python enums don't look particularly nice though: https://docs.python.org/3/library/enum.html#creating-an-enum

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -819,6 +819,16 @@ kGranularity:
 kInitialRtt:
 : The RTT used before an RTT sample is taken. The RECOMMENDED value is 100ms.
 
+kPacketNumberSpace:
+: An enum to enumerate the three packet number spaces.
+~~~
+  enum kPacketNumberSpace {
+    Initial,
+    Handshake,
+    Application data,

I renamed the variable.

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=0D > In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
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=0D > > @@ -819,6 +819,16 @@ kGranularity:
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A couple of nits, but looks good. Thanks for doing this work! Yes, we = don't have ER for crypto packets, but that was always true, and this PR m= akes it more explicit, which is good.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

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-   for pn_space in [ Initial, Handshake, Appl=
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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

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+      time_of_last_sent_crypto_packet + timeout)=0D
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[ci skip] From nobody Thu Feb 7 09:05:51 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1464E12D4EB for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2019 09:05:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.375 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.375 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=0.726, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qA1ebZTM3gIP for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2019 09:05:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-11.smtp.github.com (out-11.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9E3CB129C6A for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2019 09:05:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2019 09:05:48 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549559148; bh=t4UT9SMbRVwTKIUO0KsZf9OTUNAmr4Eh0Jxfx97shp0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=znUuP1uzNf1civTDmdRPonHR7FhvKyMAW8Bz7MF5PW8x/dMl6DjKKbx1kfaujaWEl z9yPpK1vZJ+Gf+n6Xim/ZrbBqufmBGFdzfZPV3Kt76AOlFSmm1Zcw29XvMfrCNsLcc nczXDEaPLMLpJRISwpr4xy0wCPutMTLHFmXvrOp4= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] introduce a max_connection_ids transport parameter (#1998) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c5c656c10061_bb03f870aed45c4757cf"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2019 17:05:50 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c5c656c10061_bb03f870aed45c4757cf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ianswett commented on this pull request. > @@ -3981,6 +3979,12 @@ A client MUST NOT include an original connection ID, a stateless reset token, or a preferred address. A server MUST treat receipt of any of these transport parameters as a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR. +max_connection_ids (0x000e): + +: The maximum number of connection IDs that the peer is willing to store. + This value includes only connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames. I think the restriction you're suggesting is a nice simplification Christian. I'd also like to close the connection if the limit is exceeded, but I know there was some opposition to that in Tokyo that I didn't fully understand. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1998#discussion_r254780743 ----==_mimepart_5c5c656c10061_bb03f870aed45c4757cf Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3981,6 +3979,12 @@ A client MUST NOT include an original connection ID, a stateless reset token, or
 a preferred address.  A server MUST treat receipt of any of these transport
 parameters as a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR.
 
+max_connection_ids (0x000e):
+
+: The maximum number of connection IDs that the peer is willing to store.
+  This value includes only connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames.

I think the restriction you're suggesting is a nice simplification Christian.

I'd also like to close the connection if the limit is exceeded, but I know there was some opposition to that in Tokyo that I didn't fully understand.

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----==_mimepart_5c5c656c10061_bb03f870aed45c4757cf-- From nobody Thu Feb 7 09:17:22 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A764912D7F8 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2019 09:17:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.1 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id u2BePkEbZyLV for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2019 09:17:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-16.smtp.github.com (out-16.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.199]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 163F812D4ED for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2019 09:17:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2019 09:17:18 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549559838; bh=bFvE0fC3fqtdyzlpuDMpyWMjtil5KfsEV6d30TQIv34=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=qSVp9QhanfDTyCHjniTtAEy1BZ9KsIDv9NyTg1A+9XUr6ExHi4Y20CP5B8VAewVSu a7+0JVlD02DOe8fzNTFvF4yKm1LqSkNioGuxb45Os4BE3R/31oXzopC7ARhMvyyRdU SaNoOb3X4tr7ldrRFMA6sgchifXvdN7noB0+7auE= From: martinduke Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] VN packets may be dropped more often when the QUIC bit is 0 (#2400) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c5c681e1b614_67c33fe54a0d45c011434"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinduke X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2019 17:17:21 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c5c681e1b614_67c33fe54a0d45c011434 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I suspect VN packets will be pretty rare in the internet before we roll out v2, so we are in real danger of 50% of these packets failing because they have QUIC set to zero. The most straightforward solution is to just codify the ossification that will happen anyway. @DavidSchinazi is this multiplexing mostly an issue for Initial Packets? Because the way to free up the QUIC bit could be to grease it in the Short Header. No one will implement something that drops 50% of 1RTT packets. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2400#issuecomment-461517373 ----==_mimepart_5c5c681e1b614_67c33fe54a0d45c011434 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I suspect VN packets will be pretty rare in the internet before we rol= l out v2, so we are in real danger of 50% of these packets failing becaus= e they have QUIC set to zero. The most straightforward solution is to jus= t codify the ossification that will happen anyway.

@DavidSchinazi is this multiplexing mostly an issue fo= r Initial Packets? Because the way to free up the QUIC bit could be to gr= ease it in the Short Header. No one will implement something that drops 5= 0% of 1RTT packets.

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[ci skip] From nobody Thu Feb 7 10:08:49 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB596129508 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2019 10:08:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.819 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.819 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.282, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21Q9VWdJgZIs for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2019 10:08:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1B669129284 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2019 10:08:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2019 10:08:45 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549562925; bh=r2QEEsAeQyN9H/g5MbTDzz24GVq+GgavypNGoaeGw0E=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=UQ88AaQwIlVfuEvd0Vu73TwSMZmuLHI7VkNT9iMW1wPBQP4rC9fgULEv3+vAmPqyi EmpnEMlopPpCSJdo2FIILGPbv54gxOunxShGfkPZ/D53PQvRH/KWZ8yahVnyUXQW+M LkZJV5TVNaNb5qqyoxmHdu2lOPf9n5ukkHPYTejE= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Require RFC8470 (#2433) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c5c742d9f174_3b123feeb52d45b810295a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2019 18:08:49 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c5c742d9f174_3b123feeb52d45b810295a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I missed / forgot that you'd added this requirement in #2355. 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I missed / forgot that you'd added this requirement in #2355. I'm happy to just run with that.

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Closed #2433.

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Good point, I think this is really a bug and the time threshold loss d= etection should trump retransmitting handshake data.

This may be a good argument for adding a second timer just for time th= reshold loss detection. I can make it work without that, but would that = make it clearer?

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1463,6 +1463,13 @@ could pose a security risk to an incautious implementer.  An implementation MUST
 ensure that the length of a frame exactly matches the length of the fields it
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+Certain HTTP implementations use the client address for logging or

Yes, but I think I'd rather do that as a separate organization PR and keep this one focused on this issue.

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Looks good. To @mikkelfj's concern, that's covered by the requirement that you MUST process subsequent packets in the datagram, even if you choose to drop the first one. An implementation that drops the entire datagram because it starts with a Handshake packet would be violating that requirement (and therefore should expect interop problems). > @@ -3274,6 +3275,22 @@ The considerations for processing ICMP messages in the previous section also apply if these messages are used by DPLPMTUD. +### PMTU Probes Containing Source Connection ID {#pmtu-probes-src-cid} + +Endpoints that rely on the destination connection ID for routing QUIC packets +are likely to require that connection ID included in PMTU probe packets in order +to route resulting ICMP messages ({{icmp-pmtud}}) back to the correct endpoints. + +Only long header packets ({{long-header}}) contain source connection IDs, but +long header packets will not be acknowledged once the connection has been +established. One way to construct a PMTU probe is to coalesce (see +{{packet-coalesce}}) a Handshake packet ({{packet-handshake}}) with a short +header packet in a single UDP datagram. If the UDP datagram reaches the +endpoint, the short header packet will be acknowledged. If the UDP datagram +elicits an ICMP message, that message may contain the source connection ID The reality seems a little stronger than "may"; perhaps "will likely"? > @@ -2670,9 +2670,10 @@ complete. Though the values of some fields in the packet header might be redundant, no fields are omitted. The receiver of coalesced QUIC packets MUST individually process each QUIC packet and separately acknowledge them, as if they were received as the payload of different UDP datagrams. For example, if -decryption fails (because the keys are not available or any other reason), the -the receiver MAY either discard or buffer the packet for later processing and -MUST attempt to process the remaining packets. +decryption fails (because the keys are not available, the UDP datagram is a PMTU +probe (see {{pmtu-probes-src-cid}}), or any other reason), the the receiver MAY I'm not sure this needs to be called out separately. If Handshake keys have been dropped, the keys won't be available and you've already covered this. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2402#pullrequestreview-201256996 ----==_mimepart_5c5c7c716e8b9_383f3fc0f4ad45b857268 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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Looks good. To @mikkelfj's concern, that's covered by the requirement that you MUST process subsequent packets in the datagram, even if you choose to drop the first one. An implementation that drops the entire datagram because it starts with a Handshake packet would be violating that requirement (and therefore should expect interop problems).

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3274,6 +3275,22 @@ The considerations for processing ICMP messages in the previous section also
 apply if these messages are used by DPLPMTUD.
 
 
+### PMTU Probes Containing Source Connection ID {#pmtu-probes-src-cid}
+
+Endpoints that rely on the destination connection ID for routing QUIC packets
+are likely to require that connection ID included in PMTU probe packets in order
+to route resulting ICMP messages ({{icmp-pmtud}}) back to the correct endpoints.
+
+Only long header packets ({{long-header}}) contain source connection IDs, but
+long header packets will not be acknowledged once the connection has been
+established.  One way to construct a PMTU probe is to coalesce (see
+{{packet-coalesce}}) a Handshake packet ({{packet-handshake}}) with a short
+header packet in a single UDP datagram.  If the UDP datagram reaches the
+endpoint, the short header packet will be acknowledged.  If the UDP datagram
+elicits an ICMP message, that message may contain the source connection ID

The reality seems a little stronger than "may"; perhaps "will likely"?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2670,9 +2670,10 @@ complete.  Though the values of some fields in the packet header might be
 redundant, no fields are omitted.  The receiver of coalesced QUIC packets MUST
 individually process each QUIC packet and separately acknowledge them, as if
 they were received as the payload of different UDP datagrams.  For example, if
-decryption fails (because the keys are not available or any other reason), the
-the receiver MAY either discard or buffer the packet for later processing and
-MUST attempt to process the remaining packets.
+decryption fails (because the keys are not available, the UDP datagram is a PMTU
+probe (see {{pmtu-probes-src-cid}}), or any other reason), the the receiver MAY

I'm not sure this needs to be called out separately. If Handshake keys have been dropped, the keys won't be available and you've already covered this.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4106,6 +4102,12 @@ A client MUST NOT include an original connection ID, a stateless reset token, or
 a preferred address.  A server MUST treat receipt of any of these transport
 parameters as a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR.
 
+max_connection_ids (0x000e):
+
+: The maximum number of connection IDs that the peer is willing to store.
+  This value includes only connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames.
+  If this parameter is absent, a default of 0 is assumed.

In HTTP, we use zero defaults for everything because those values apply until the SETTINGS frame arrives. In QUIC, however, you can't send anything until transport parameters are in hand. Any value can be a reasonable default. (Note that the requirement not to reduce after accepting 0-RTT will apply here, though.)

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3981,6 +3979,12 @@ A client MUST NOT include an original connection ID, a stateless reset token, or
 a preferred address.  A server MUST treat receipt of any of these transport
 parameters as a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR.
 
+max_connection_ids (0x000e):
+
+: The maximum number of connection IDs that the peer is willing to store.
+  This value includes only connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames.

Iff you count the handshake and SPA CIDs, an overflow just from transport parameters is possible if set to 0/1, as @marten-seemann pointed out earlier. Overflows are also possible based on the advice to replace upon seeing a new CID enter use, though I think that's best addressed by just not recommending/allowing that.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  
      // Start a new congestion epoch if the last lost packet
      // is past the end of the previous recovery epoch.
-     CongestionEvent(largest_lost_packet.time_sent)
+     CongestionEvent(newest_lost_packet.time_sent)
+
+     // Collapse congestion window if persistent congestion
+     if (InPersistentCongestion(oldest_lost_packet.time_sent)):

If 4 is acked and the others are lost, then it should be persistent congestion.

But if 2, 3 and 4 were all acked at once(t=8), that should not be persistent congestion.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  
      // Start a new congestion epoch if the last lost packet
      // is past the end of the previous recovery epoch.
-     CongestionEvent(largest_lost_packet.time_sent)
+     CongestionEvent(newest_lost_packet.time_sent)
+
+     // Collapse congestion window if persistent congestion
+     if (InPersistentCongestion(oldest_lost_packet.time_sent)):

Hmm, well then we'd have to make two changes to achieve that behavior.

  1. Use newest_lost_packet - oldest_lost_packet for the time window.
  2. Make the threshold 2 PTO instead of 3.

Without the second part above, an ACK of pkt 4 would produce a loss window of only 3 seconds (3 - 0), right?

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"I'd prefer "Packets arrive out when later packets are lost or delayed.""

earlier packets?

Do you want this text to replace the current definition, or in addition to the current PR?

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  
      // Start a new congestion epoch if the last lost packet
      // is past the end of the previous recovery epoch.
-     CongestionEvent(largest_lost_packet.time_sent)
+     CongestionEvent(newest_lost_packet.time_sent)
+
+     // Collapse congestion window if persistent congestion
+     if (InPersistentCongestion(oldest_lost_packet.time_sent)):

That sounds correct to me. Can you add your example as an example to the text section as well? This is clearly very confusing, so an example would help.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  
      // Start a new congestion epoch if the last lost packet
      // is past the end of the previous recovery epoch.
-     CongestionEvent(largest_lost_packet.time_sent)
+     CongestionEvent(newest_lost_packet.time_sent)
+
+     // Collapse congestion window if persistent congestion
+     if (InPersistentCongestion(oldest_lost_packet.time_sent)):

Sure. Do you want me to describe the example in just words, or put almost exactly what I have above with the text?

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  
      // Start a new congestion epoch if the last lost packet
      // is past the end of the previous recovery epoch.
-     CongestionEvent(largest_lost_packet.time_sent)
+     CongestionEvent(newest_lost_packet.time_sent)
+
+     // Collapse congestion window if persistent congestion
+     if (InPersistentCongestion(oldest_lost_packet.time_sent)):

I think how you have it laid out is great and an effort to convert it into text will probably make it less clear. But I'm not familiar enough with markdown to know how to get the formatting right.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  
      // Start a new congestion epoch if the last lost packet
      // is past the end of the previous recovery epoch.
-     CongestionEvent(largest_lost_packet.time_sent)
+     CongestionEvent(newest_lost_packet.time_sent)
+
+     // Collapse congestion window if persistent congestion
+     if (InPersistentCongestion(oldest_lost_packet.time_sent)):

Ok. I'll give it a go.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3981,6 +3979,12 @@ A client MUST NOT include an original connection ID, a stateless reset token, or
 a preferred address.  A server MUST treat receipt of any of these transport
 parameters as a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR.
 
+max_connection_ids (0x000e):
+
+: The maximum number of connection IDs that the peer is willing to store.
+  This value includes only connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames.

@MikeBishop yes indeed, the server always sends at least 1 CID, so a limit of 0 appears to break. But this is easily worked around by only applying the test to NCID frames. This is easier than special-casing the handling of CID[0] and CID[1]/SPA. In particular, the logic for handling RETIRE_CID and creation of new NCID becomes much simpler.

As I mentioned before, a default of 0 does not work very well, because the default for migration disabled is also 0 -- yet enabling migration without any NCID would be a protocol violation. The default should be at least 2 (initial and SPA), and I would prefer 3.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -134,6 +134,11 @@ Crypto Packets:
 
 : Packets containing CRYPTO data sent in Initial or Handshake
   packets.
+  
+Out-of-order Packets:
+
+: Packets that do not increase the largest received packet number for its
+cryptographic context by exactly one.

My suggestion should have been "Packets arrive out of order when later packets are lost or delayed.", but Martin's suggestion is slightly better because it drops 'later', which is unnecessary.

The intent was as a replacement for Martin's suggestion, in addition to the first sentence you have.

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We fear that someone might ossify if they discover that these are de= finitely not real protocol versions. On the other hand, the thing tha= t breaks is use of these as real protocol versions, which I don't believe w= e're trying to achieve. If the middlebox is generating accurate V= N packets, that seems entirely reasonable (and indistinguishable from actua= l VN packets). If they're generating inaccurate VN packets, then our anti-= downgrade protections that we've decided to implement RSN will break.

On the other hand, if these ever are real protocol versions, then a junk= grease packet using the reserved version will fail to parse as a valid Ini= tial and will just fail rather than eliciting a VN response.

This seems like an impossible battle to win, and a lot of subtlety to ex= pect of middlebox vendors. Write what we mean and move on.

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This led to a few ancillary changes along the way: - I stole transport's frame type IANA rules and used it for our three new varint registries. (This was alluded to in discussion in Tokyo.) - Unidirectional stream types are now a fixed sequence starting from 0x00, rather than scattered code points that "just happen" to have ASCII values. (This was explicitly requested in discussion in Tokyo.) - It's impractical to enumerate and have IANA reserve the grease values for a much larger space; therefore, I shifted the requirement to saying that IANA MUST NOT allocate those code points to anyone. (This also avoids IANA having a publicly-visible list of the grease codepoints, which is a nice perk.) - The `0x?a?a?a?a` is less effective greasing, as it falls entirely in the private use range. I changed everything to use the `0x1F * N` formulation, which has the side benefit of being easy to produce and less obvious to identify on first glance. (However, only two of these values fall in the standards-assigned region.) If any of these ancillary changes are controversial, I'm happy to split them out into separate issues for discussion, but they make these changes fit more naturally. Fixes #2233. Fixes #2253. Fixes #2275. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2437 -- Commit Summary -- * Varint the frame types * Concomitant change to HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME_TYPE * Varint the stream types * Format values * Varint the Settings Identifiers * Mention the difference in HTTP/2 considerations * Make frame type greasing consistent -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (161) M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md (14) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2437.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2437.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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As discussed in Tokyo, varints all the things. This led to a few ancillary changes along the way:

  • I stole transport's frame type IANA rules and used it for our three new varint registries. (This was alluded to in discussion in Tokyo.)
  • Unidirectional stream types are now a fixed sequence starting from 0x00, rather than scattered code points that "just happen" to have ASCII values. (This was explicitly requested in discussion in Tokyo.)
  • It's impractical to enumerate and have IANA reserve the grease values for a much larger space; therefore, I shifted the requirement to saying that IANA MUST NOT allocate those code points to anyone. (This also avoids IANA having a publicly-visible list of the grease codepoints, which is a nice perk.)
  • The 0x?a?a?a?a is less effective greasing, as it falls entirely in the private use range. I changed everything to use the 0x1F * N formulation, which has the side benefit of being easy to produce and less obvious to identify on first glance. (However, only two of these values fall in the standards-assigned region.)

If any of these ancillary changes are controversial, I'm happy to split them out into separate issues for discussion, but they make these changes fit more naturally.

Fixes #2233.
Fixes #2253.
Fixes #2275.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2437

Commit Summary

  • Varint the frame types
  • Concomitant change to HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME_TYPE
  • Varint the stream types
  • Format values
  • Varint the Settings Identifiers
  • Mention the difference in HTTP/2 considerations
  • Make frame type greasing consistent

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The use of reserved values is a bit loose; what about `0x1f * N` when `N=0`? Apart from that, looks fine. > @@ -881,12 +885,12 @@ the DUPLICATE_PUSH. ### Reserved Frame Types {#frame-grease} -Frame types of the format `0xb + (0x1f * N)` are reserved to exercise the -requirement that unknown types be ignored ({{extensions}}). These frames have no -semantic value, and can be sent when application-layer padding is desired. They -MAY also be sent on connections where no request data is currently being -transferred. Endpoints MUST NOT consider these frames to have any meaning upon -receipt. +Frame types of the format `0x1f * N` for non-zero values of N are reserved to +exercise the requirement that unknown types be ignored ({{extensions}}). These +frames have no semantic value, and can be sent when application-layer padding is +desired. They MAY also be sent on connections where no request data is currently +being transferred. Endpoints MUST NOT consider these frames to have any meaning +upon receipt. When you write `0x1f * N` , is 0 a valid value of N? > @@ -384,11 +385,12 @@ client MUST treat this as a connection error of type HTTP_DUPLICATE_PUSH. ### Reserved Stream Types {#stream-grease} -Stream types of the format `0x1f * N` are reserved to exercise the requirement -that unknown types be ignored. These streams have no semantic meaning, and can -be sent when application-layer padding is desired. They MAY also be sent on -connections where no request data is currently being transferred. Endpoints MUST -NOT consider these streams to have any meaning upon receipt. +Stream types of the format `0x1f * N` for non-zero values of N are reserved to +exercise the requirement that unknown types be ignored. These streams have no +semantic meaning, and can be sent when application-layer padding is desired. +They MAY also be sent on connections where no request data is currently being +transferred. 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The use of reserved values is a bit loose; what about 0x1f * N when N=0? Apart from that, looks fine.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -881,12 +885,12 @@ the DUPLICATE_PUSH.
 
 ### Reserved Frame Types {#frame-grease}
 
-Frame types of the format `0xb + (0x1f * N)` are reserved to exercise the
-requirement that unknown types be ignored ({{extensions}}). These frames have no
-semantic value, and can be sent when application-layer padding is desired. They
-MAY also be sent on connections where no request data is currently being
-transferred. Endpoints MUST NOT consider these frames to have any meaning upon
-receipt.
+Frame types of the format `0x1f * N` for non-zero values of N are reserved to
+exercise the requirement that unknown types be ignored ({{extensions}}). These
+frames have no semantic value, and can be sent when application-layer padding is
+desired. They MAY also be sent on connections where no request data is currently
+being transferred. Endpoints MUST NOT consider these frames to have any meaning
+upon receipt.

When you write 0x1f * N , is 0 a valid value of N?

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -384,11 +385,12 @@ client MUST treat this as a connection error of type HTTP_DUPLICATE_PUSH.
 
 ### Reserved Stream Types {#stream-grease}
 
-Stream types of the format `0x1f * N` are reserved to exercise the requirement
-that unknown types be ignored. These streams have no semantic meaning, and can
-be sent when application-layer padding is desired.  They MAY also be sent on
-connections where no request data is currently being transferred. Endpoints MUST
-NOT consider these streams to have any meaning upon receipt.
+Stream types of the format `0x1f * N` for non-zero values of N are reserved to
+exercise the requirement that unknown types be ignored. These streams have no
+semantic meaning, and can be sent when application-layer padding is desired.
+They MAY also be sent on connections where no request data is currently being
+transferred. Endpoints MUST NOT consider these streams to have any meaning upon
+receipt.

What if N=0 in 0x1f * N

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----==_mimepart_5c5cd3bcbcb72_a803fc6cf4d45c496495-- From nobody Thu Feb 7 16:59:36 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBD851286E7 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2019 16:59:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A7U3ideiF4am for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2019 16:59:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-9.smtp.github.com (out-9.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 77626128B14 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2019 16:59:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2019 16:59:31 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549587571; bh=yRtZPe/CGx7zSSqvafKO0cYZ7brMfcUI8nlceKJDJNw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=WAESAeoZX/CdGj0zjVMMomRjpoDx/p0lrrwB8ew6zpCr8SPe4K0+eEmHK9t9yFI53 MGOD2TCo19ml8kZcGKgA8oybHJYllUMao+/pSor4Bvw/25V/ZPSoNPY/eA6ubr/6qj mPpPSqXtcZ1aw/jbhOM9JoLdbbTAZvr7uRj317+s= From: Christian Huitema Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] VarInt all the HTTP things (#2437) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c5cd473c4562_17303fc6a06d45c41496e9"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: huitema X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2019 00:59:35 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c5cd473c4562_17303fc6a06d45c41496e9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit huitema commented on this pull request. My previous comments are addressed by the "non zero values of N" fix. > @@ -384,11 +385,12 @@ client MUST treat this as a connection error of type HTTP_DUPLICATE_PUSH. ### Reserved Stream Types {#stream-grease} -Stream types of the format `0x1f * N` are reserved to exercise the requirement -that unknown types be ignored. These streams have no semantic meaning, and can -be sent when application-layer padding is desired. They MAY also be sent on -connections where no request data is currently being transferred. Endpoints MUST -NOT consider these streams to have any meaning upon receipt. +Stream types of the format `0x1f * N` for non-zero values of N are reserved to +exercise the requirement that unknown types be ignored. These streams have no +semantic meaning, and can be sent when application-layer padding is desired. +They MAY also be sent on connections where no request data is currently being +transferred. Endpoints MUST NOT consider these streams to have any meaning upon +receipt. Oh, this is addressed by the "non zero values of N" fix. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2437#pullrequestreview-201395017 ----==_mimepart_5c5cd473c4562_17303fc6a06d45c41496e9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@huitema commented on this pull request.

My previous comments are addressed by the "non zero values of N" fix.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -384,11 +385,12 @@ client MUST treat this as a connection error of type HTTP_DUPLICATE_PUSH.
 
 ### Reserved Stream Types {#stream-grease}
 
-Stream types of the format `0x1f * N` are reserved to exercise the requirement
-that unknown types be ignored. These streams have no semantic meaning, and can
-be sent when application-layer padding is desired.  They MAY also be sent on
-connections where no request data is currently being transferred. Endpoints MUST
-NOT consider these streams to have any meaning upon receipt.
+Stream types of the format `0x1f * N` for non-zero values of N are reserved to
+exercise the requirement that unknown types be ignored. These streams have no
+semantic meaning, and can be sent when application-layer padding is desired.
+They MAY also be sent on connections where no request data is currently being
+transferred. Endpoints MUST NOT consider these streams to have any meaning upon
+receipt.

Oh, this is addressed by the "non zero values of N" fix.

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@martinduke good point - most of the use-cases we have t= oday are servers doing the demultiplexing, and VN is currently only serve= r-to-client. I'm less worried about VN and more about the Internet ossify= ing "QUIC =3D=3D the second bit is 1" without it being in the invariants.= Greasing the second bit in client-to-server short headers would make it = harder to demultiplex on the server without keeping track of all the issu= ed connection IDs, and I don't think we want to make the server demultipl= exer stateful.

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A server MUST treat receipt of any of these transport parameters as a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR. +max_connection_ids (0x000e): + +: The maximum number of connection IDs that the peer is willing to store. + This value includes only connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames. + If this parameter is absent, a default of 0 is assumed. This is one where reducing after 0-RTT is perfectly OK. It's not a hard limit, it's more like a guideline. We should allow an exception here. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1998#discussion_r254943260 ----==_mimepart_5c5cf0685c836_2bc43fb738ed45c050313c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4106,6 +4102,12 @@ A client MUST NOT include an original connection ID, a stateless reset token, or
 a preferred address.  A server MUST treat receipt of any of these transport
 parameters as a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR.
 
+max_connection_ids (0x000e):
+
+: The maximum number of connection IDs that the peer is willing to store.
+  This value includes only connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames.
+  If this parameter is absent, a default of 0 is assumed.

This is one where reducing after 0-RTT is perfectly OK. It's not a hard limit, it's more like a guideline. We should allow an exception here.

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----==_mimepart_5c5cf0685c836_2bc43fb738ed45c050313c-- From nobody Thu Feb 7 20:03:08 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A19DE130F23 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2019 20:03:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AUDqBql8cUuB for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2019 20:03:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D913B128B01 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2019 20:03:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2019 20:03:03 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549598583; bh=KUBmKwQI3yunsGpSDGlKaLnP6Y5l+bUmC66y8Ox/Eww=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Z13hzyJ5mXdLsb2xj5acZfa4vuMN/dAj3I42o+/dwEvtsE2ek869eXwuTvvs6FOyC XReZfUoi8kWdflQJZEFCQoLCQKoIBqAb33HvVfJiI4rQtbwrLt7Su+P6UIwvMSpylX RBIsEralxWePAWUqFllA7CsJyBQpDHUg0r0zfegM= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] VN packets may be dropped more often when the QUIC bit is 0 (#2400) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c5cff7785527_648a3fb2898d45c0592f0"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2019 04:03:07 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c5cff7785527_648a3fb2898d45c0592f0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree that the long header packets sent by the client needs to have the QUIC bit set. I also agree that there's less need to have the bit set in the long header packets sent by the server, though I think it's possible to argue that we should not have different requirements based on the role, because QUIC does not have a distinguish a client address tuple and a server address tuple (i.e. an endpoint can use a one address tuple for accepting connections and also for initiating connections as a client). For short header packets, I think we agree that the bit is not required. Then the question is, assuming that we decide to kill the bit, should we grease it, or rather, change it to a reserve bit? I suggest the latter because changing the definition to "reserved" and covering the bit using header protection is the strongest way of preserving the freedom to use the bit in future versions of QUIC. It can also be considered as a simplification, because there would be not need to "randomize" the bit for greasing; endpoints can rely on the header protection to flip the bits. FWIW, current definition of the short header first byte is: `0 1 S R R K P P`. This would change to `0 S R R R K P P` if we are going to change the QUIC bit to a reserved bit. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2400#issuecomment-461683360 ----==_mimepart_5c5cff7785527_648a3fb2898d45c0592f0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I agree that the long header packets sent by the client needs to have = the QUIC bit set.

I also agree that there's less need to have the bit set in the long he= ader packets sent by the server, though I think it's possible to argue th= at we should not have different requirements based on the role, because Q= UIC does not have a distinguish a client address tuple and a server addre= ss tuple (i.e. an endpoint can use a one address tuple for accepting conn= ections and also for initiating connections as a client).

For short header packets, I think we agree that the bit is not require= d. Then the question is, assuming that we decide to kill the bit, should = we grease it, or rather, change it to a reserve bit? I suggest the latter= because changing the definition to "reserved" and covering the bit using= header protection is the strongest way of preserving the freedom to use = the bit in future versions of QUIC. It can also be considered as a simpli= fication, because there would be not need to "randomize" the bit for grea= sing; endpoints can rely on the header protection to flip the bits.

FWIW, current definition of the short header first byte is: 0 1 = S R R K P P. This would change to 0 S R R R K P P if = we are going to change the QUIC bit to a reserved bit.

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The `(8)` suggests that this is an octet, whereas the stream type is a varint. I'd make this figure use the same format as _fig-stream-header_. > @@ -384,11 +385,12 @@ client MUST treat this as a connection error of type HTTP_DUPLICATE_PUSH. ### Reserved Stream Types {#stream-grease} -Stream types of the format `0x1f * N` are reserved to exercise the requirement -that unknown types be ignored. These streams have no semantic meaning, and can -be sent when application-layer padding is desired. They MAY also be sent on -connections where no request data is currently being transferred. Endpoints MUST -NOT consider these streams to have any meaning upon receipt. +Stream types of the format `0x1f * N` for non-zero values of N are reserved to +exercise the requirement that unknown types be ignored. These streams have no +semantic meaning, and can be sent when application-layer padding is desired. "Semantic meaning" sounds like a tautology. (This formulation is not introduced in this change, but I figured I'd highlight it while I am at it.) > @@ -671,14 +673,16 @@ treat the presence of the same parameter more than once as a connection error of type HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME. The payload of a SETTINGS frame consists of zero or more parameters, each -consisting of an unsigned 16-bit setting identifier and a value which uses the +consisting of a setting identifier and a value, each of which uses the I'd put it as "...identifier and a value, each encoded as a QUIC variable-length integer," simply because I don't see how the identifier and the value _use_ the encoding. (Again, this is not a new thing in this change, but simply something I've noticed.) > @@ -1824,7 +1815,9 @@ CONTINUATION (0x9): Frame types defined by extensions to HTTP/2 need to be separately registered for HTTP/3 if still applicable. The IDs of frames defined in {{!RFC7540}} have been -reserved for simplicity. See {{iana-frames}}. +reserved for simplicity. Note that the frame type space in HTTP/3 is +substantially larger (62 bits versus 8 bits), so many HTTP/3 frame types have no +equivalent HTTP/2 code point. See {{iana-frames}}. Number agreement: `s/point/points/` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2437#pullrequestreview-201425291 ----==_mimepart_5c5d0293555b8_2ae83ff107ad45c015838c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@dtikhonov requested changes on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -373,7 +374,7 @@ MUST be treated as a stream error of type HTTP_WRONG_STREAM_DIRECTION.
  0                   1                   2                   3
  0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
-|Stream Type (8)|                  Push ID (i)                ...
+|    0x01 (8)   |                  Push ID (i)                ...

The (8) suggests that this is an octet, whereas the stream type is a varint. I'd make this figure use the same format as fig-stream-header.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -384,11 +385,12 @@ client MUST treat this as a connection error of type HTTP_DUPLICATE_PUSH.
 
 ### Reserved Stream Types {#stream-grease}
 
-Stream types of the format `0x1f * N` are reserved to exercise the requirement
-that unknown types be ignored. These streams have no semantic meaning, and can
-be sent when application-layer padding is desired.  They MAY also be sent on
-connections where no request data is currently being transferred. Endpoints MUST
-NOT consider these streams to have any meaning upon receipt.
+Stream types of the format `0x1f * N` for non-zero values of N are reserved to
+exercise the requirement that unknown types be ignored. These streams have no
+semantic meaning, and can be sent when application-layer padding is desired.

"Semantic meaning" sounds like a tautology.

(This formulation is not introduced in this change, but I figured I'd highlight it while I am at it.)

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -671,14 +673,16 @@ treat the presence of the same parameter more than once as a connection error of
 type HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME.
 
 The payload of a SETTINGS frame consists of zero or more parameters, each
-consisting of an unsigned 16-bit setting identifier and a value which uses the
+consisting of a setting identifier and a value, each of which uses the

I'd put it as "...identifier and a value, each encoded as a QUIC variable-length integer," simply because I don't see how the identifier and the value use the encoding.

(Again, this is not a new thing in this change, but simply something I've noticed.)

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1824,7 +1815,9 @@ CONTINUATION (0x9):
 
 Frame types defined by extensions to HTTP/2 need to be separately registered for
 HTTP/3 if still applicable.  The IDs of frames defined in {{!RFC7540}} have been
-reserved for simplicity.  See {{iana-frames}}.
+reserved for simplicity.  Note that the frame type space in HTTP/3 is
+substantially larger (62 bits versus 8 bits), so many HTTP/3 frame types have no
+equivalent HTTP/2 code point.   See {{iana-frames}}.

Number agreement: s/point/points/

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The congestion period is calculated as the time between the +oldest and newest lost packets: (3 - 0) = 3. The duration for persistent +congestion is equal to: (1 * ((2 ^ 2) - 1)) = 3. Because the threshold was +reached, the network is considered to have experienced persistent congestion. + +When persistent congestion is established, the sender's congestion window MUST +be reduced to the minimum congestion window (kMinimumWindow). This response of +collapsing the congestion window on persistent congestion is functionally +similar to a sender's response on a Retransmission Timeout (RTO) in TCP +{{RFC5681}}. ```suggestion {{RFC5681}} after Tail Loss Probes (TLP) {{TLP}}. ``` > @@ -1282,15 +1309,28 @@ Invoked by loss detection from DetectLostPackets when new packets are detected lost. ~~~ + InPersistentCongestion(congestion_period): + pto = smoothed_rtt + 4 * rttvar + max_ack_delay + return + congestion_period > + pto * (2 ^ kPersistentCongestionThreshold - 1) editorial nit: this looks a bit confusing because 'return' is on a line by itself. How about: return congestion_period > pto * (2 ^ kPersistentCongestionThreshold - 1) > When an ACK frame is received that establishes loss of all in-flight packets -sent prior to a threshold number of consecutive PTOs (pto_count is more than -kPersistentCongestionThreshold, see {{cc-consts-of-interest}}), the network is -considered to be experiencing persistent congestion, and the sender's congestion -window MUST be reduced to the minimum congestion window (kMinimumWindow). This -response of collapsing the congestion window on persistent congestion is -functionally similar to a sender's response on a Retransmission Timeout (RTO) in -TCP {{RFC5681}}. +sent over a long enough period of time, the network is considered to be +experiencing persistent congestion. Commonly, this can be established by +consecutive PTOs, but since the PTO timer is reset when a new ack-eliciting +packet is sent, an explicit duration must be used to account for those cases +where PTOs do not occur or are substantially delayed. This duration is the +equivalent of kPersistentCongestionThreshold consecutive PTOS, smoothed_rtt + +4 * rttvar + max_ack_delay * ((2 ^ kPersistentCongestionThreshold) - 1). Agreed that it seems odd to backoff on max_ack_delay. @ianswett : Let's do that separately. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2365#pullrequestreview-201433164 ----==_mimepart_5c5d10914528e_1b883fae34ad45b811015c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

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+When persistent congestion is established, the sender's congestion w=
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+collapsing the congestion window on persistent congestion is functionall=
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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

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+sent over a long enough period of time, the network is considered to be=0D=

+experiencing persistent congestion.  Commonly, this can be established b=
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+consecutive PTOs, but since the PTO timer is reset when a new ack-elicit=
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Agreed that it seems odd to backoff on max_ack_delay. @ianswet= t : Let's do that separately.

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= =0D =0D = ----==_mimepart_5c5d10914528e_1b883fae34ad45b811015c-- From nobody Thu Feb 7 21:18:19 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A94AD129BBF for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2019 21:18:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pnIvYP7SaIXy for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2019 21:18:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0EE04124C04 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2019 21:18:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2019 21:18:14 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549603094; bh=ti/+6YZlZiT0S+H23Lt03PAlQ+XhzGSFcvF9nDLhOrY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=QS1U5v5QPRI6v6iTTsCc8dM+ENPviBedfBQYmc+KU8zDFTbpPbWbF42Tb4ykEOQbl 3mIAgeoGfw45dJuqHlyXTgsMcWFa1SdRrdUWTSJJ2HfkVPnwzp3UqPiqJaf8xxAwO0 pAZZJ6+0latIbJsRSUwfuupCPMblgzfijhcSIgf4= From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Persistent Congestion Time Threshold (#2365) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c5d1116d5467_4e943f8468ed45b48214d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2019 05:18:18 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c5d1116d5467_4e943f8468ed45b48214d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit janaiyengar commented on this pull request. > @@ -1282,15 +1287,27 @@ Invoked by loss detection from DetectLostPackets when new packets are detected lost. ~~~ + InPersistentCongestion(oldest_loss_time): + congestion_period = Now() - oldest_loss_time Yes, I agree. I had thought that Now() was best, but that does not account for pauses in sending... newest_lost_time - oldest_lost_time is quite good I think. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2365#discussion_r254957869 ----==_mimepart_5c5d1116d5467_4e943f8468ed45b48214d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1282,15 +1287,27 @@ Invoked by loss detection from DetectLostPackets when new packets
 are detected lost.
 
 ~~~
+   InPersistentCongestion(oldest_loss_time):
+     congestion_period = Now() - oldest_loss_time

Yes, I agree. I had thought that Now() was best, but that does not account for pauses in sending... newest_lost_time - oldest_lost_time is quite good I think.

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Looks great! Thanks for doing the work, @nibanks - I like this new form of the algorithm much better. I think it's basically correct, and the text and example are both excellent.

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From Tokyo: duplicate of #2145

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MUST not do it, may generate error. (retry on the next path)

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----==_mimepart_5c5d18723de2c_7c073faac5ed45b880826-- From nobody Thu Feb 7 22:01:49 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 056EC130F2A for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2019 22:01:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rLMfowZhOckU for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2019 22:01:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 54D3E130F25 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2019 22:01:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2019 22:01:46 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549605706; bh=SANkTkq45K0/1MASt9kpj41iy1vFFL+LAyXBayd+wv8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=eVkjI77hoQOykacPOwctZ4kVECX8a7hk1lhB+BsvmEDZAzmPd4i4To68YlaEj5YCx psqONekeNCN7dDMOTzuHG9AEF02zcHdqc+ms5GrKIqHIUBevZQ9QpU8INsjhniSvMK CEq1Al7iRTLmedTaMeMAxMCmJCh1V7EOHUcAlaZc= From: martinduke Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] VN packets may be dropped more often when the QUIC bit is 0 (#2400) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c5d1b4a2a5a6_52b83f9bec4d45b41138a4"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinduke X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2019 06:01:49 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c5d1b4a2a5a6_52b83f9bec4d45b41138a4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To me, it's clear that we should either (1) add it to the invariants or (2) bring it under header protection for server-generated packets only. (2) is somewhat inelegant, but we get to keep using the bits. Are there any privacy implications to there being a "client bit"? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2400#issuecomment-461700365 ----==_mimepart_5c5d1b4a2a5a6_52b83f9bec4d45b41138a4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

To me, it's clear that we should either (1) add it to the invariants o= r (2) bring it under header protection for server-generated packets only.= (2) is somewhat inelegant, but we get to keep using the bits. Are there = any privacy implications to there being a "client bit"?

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= ----==_mimepart_5c5d1b4a2a5a6_52b83f9bec4d45b41138a4-- From nobody Thu Feb 7 22:14:52 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2788A130F2F for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2019 22:14:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3IradqkGHReu for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2019 22:14:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7BB59130DC2 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2019 22:14:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2019 22:14:48 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549606488; bh=JPbzYexI4yNp/mq744psfyxMEJelj433mqa2ONTJEGU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=PViKloyY6RXTCe8UY0M+Vr6bnv99DAxyfL/eEyIr7lWit1cGBUemGa7YwQGoq5wWV yxN+3dn3f5Z0AX/2XQfAvaQN+rXPJvTguB9rbUmBYwlQVFhvMaaIsZyKGYrKC05zax GlZEISY0NQokNGLiI602eeVgRVW5aro4XTkGrugA= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] VN packets may be dropped more often when the QUIC bit is 0 (#2400) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c5d1e5838460_2ca93fad0f4d45bc1725b8"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2019 06:14:51 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c5d1e5838460_2ca93fad0f4d45bc1725b8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > (2) bring it under header protection for server-generated packets only. I would oppose to such a design, because that disables a reverse proxy from using a single port for accepting connections and also for initiating connections, assuming that either the proxy or a middlebox in front of the proxy relies on the QUIC bit to route the packets. Greasing would be fine, because it's not something to be required for every endpoint to implement. > Are there any privacy implications to there being a "client bit"? The bit would be a good indicator to police P2P traffic for ISPs... -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2400#issuecomment-461702432 ----==_mimepart_5c5d1e5838460_2ca93fad0f4d45bc1725b8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

(2) bring it under header protection for server-generated packets only= .

I would oppose to such a design, because that disables a reverse proxy= from using a single port for accepting connections and also for initiati= ng connections, assuming that either the proxy or a middlebox in front of= the proxy relies on the QUIC bit to route the packets. Greasing would be= fine, because it's not something to be required for every endpoint to im= plement.

Are there any privacy implications to there being a "client bit"?

The bit would be a good indicator to police P2P traffic for ISPs...

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Tokyo:

MT has a PR that does just this.

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That being #2414 (I'm closing #2413).

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Yes, I think rate limit is a plausible solution. But the malicious clien= ts can also set up a connection, get half a dozen CID, then set a new conne= ction, etc. So it boils down to how many connection per second the server w= ill support (100? 1000? 10000? Multiply by size of farm?) and how often the= CID encryption key will rotate. That, multiplied by the number of CID per = connection, gives a number. Log2 of that gives the minimum size in bits. Fo= r a server doing 10000 connections per second, 16 CID per connection, 24 ho= urs for the key, the result is 34 bits. Add 2 for managing key rotations, t= hen add routing bits in the case of a farm. We should be good with 40 bits = for a single server, 56 bits for a small farm, 64 bits for a larger farm.

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Just throwing in a comment I made on the rate limiting PR: maintaining= more CID's than necessary can have performance impacts: = #2428 (comment) therefore I'm in favour of lowering from 8. I'm less = concerned with the default being 0 or 2.

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= ----==_mimepart_5c5d39ff58e91_48803fb4accd45c4249885-- From nobody Fri Feb 8 00:39:39 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F767130E3F for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2019 00:39:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10Y6_MqYxMNF for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2019 00:39:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A627E1288BD for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2019 00:39:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2019 00:39:34 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549615174; bh=PKRmy5IahO3jIj6Q7Z2K3tNKlWdPacwxv+44KVyi/LY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=C3anIP76j3HxcL34lmJ7xbBdaWrlP+zpMaw6XEOh/UQXQt1ggpoaFMfJ5DvQppbFb SB/OuPnDUsTQqspd02528k+EZi7S7GrxClEhW27e7ggcCEsd6bCdnnbZalW1en0ALE Ui4wmZHq0BFleaHkL1qZgSXidp5E/tDnxqUfLL5M= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Specify DCID of 0-RTT packets (#2398) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c5d40465ae10_7d7c3fd3ad0d45c4173f6"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2019 08:39:37 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c5d40465ae10_7d7c3fd3ad0d45c4173f6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Based on proposed 0-RTT routing to single instance for replay protection, discussed on the mailing list, it would be helpful if the server can assign a DCID for use in 0-RTT that is potentially longer than normal CID's. This is because CID routing lifetime may shorter than 0-RTT session tickets, and a longer DCID could make it easier for a server farm to route 0-RTT packets correctly. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2398#issuecomment-461729490 ----==_mimepart_5c5d40465ae10_7d7c3fd3ad0d45c4173f6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Based on proposed 0-RTT routing to single instance for replay protecti= on, discussed on the mailing list, it would be helpful if the server can = assign a DCID for use in 0-RTT that is potentially longer than normal CID= 's. This is because CID routing lifetime may shorter than 0-RTT session t= ickets, and a longer DCID could make it easier for a server farm to route= 0-RTT packets correctly.

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= ----==_mimepart_5c5d40465ae10_7d7c3fd3ad0d45c4173f6-- From nobody Fri Feb 8 01:00:11 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC62012F1A2 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2019 01:00:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id p7x3VmclkI2i for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2019 01:00:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 512221288BD for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2019 01:00:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2019 01:00:06 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549616406; bh=Uv2pKQ6MxNa9e44Z+rML8hX7OcHz3NP91MnYdDQaxEQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=PRhvCww+7zJPPwl0M6c4dg016N81nL0t5ejHmarPPyvvEjM1sx2PX5I7v6k2R/l6h jhSuKg7PaukPA50vLiPptW/Zy+mSHLNafMU0S++lsA9z9dFjx1H7inFIYBgmeMH5do zQ1XZ8bJsrU4HxbmtOAV2u5b8JGkEwx0rCnGo1HM= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] rate-limiting of CID issuance needs to be allowed (#2436) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c5d45166b159_43b3fedd12d45c0884c8"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2019 09:00:09 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c5d45166b159_43b3fedd12d45c0884c8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Scary numbers, but what is the problem with potential early reuse? Say a server has 10000 connections and 20000 active CID's, and 30000 CID's total because peer has an extra. A new CID is issued, and an old is retired. In counter mode, the CID's are cycled and can already generate conflicts after truncation to 32-bits. These conflicts can be checked against the 30K CID table. If a CID's rotate fast enough, conflicts happen faster, but they won't happen on any currently recognised CID's by that instance. This is just from a 5-minute speculation, I could clearly be missing something important. But I think it is important to consider how conflicts are dealt with. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2436#issuecomment-461734436 ----==_mimepart_5c5d45166b159_43b3fedd12d45c0884c8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Scary numbers, but what is the problem with potential early reuse?
= Say a server has 10000 connections and 20000 active CID's, and 30000 CID'= s total because peer has an extra.

A new CID is issued, and an old is retired. In counter mode, the CID's= are cycled and can already generate conflicts after truncation to 32-bit= s. These conflicts can be checked against the 30K CID table. If a CID's r= otate fast enough, conflicts happen faster, but they won't happen on any = currently recognised CID's by that instance.

This is just from a 5-minute speculation, I could clearly be missing s= omething important. But I think it is important to consider how conflict= s are dealt with.

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= ----==_mimepart_5c5d45166b159_43b3fedd12d45c0884c8-- From nobody Fri Feb 8 01:09:36 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E6B51288BD for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2019 01:09:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hDtwJtc3GwaR for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2019 01:09:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AAF20126F72 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2019 01:09:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2019 01:09:32 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549616972; bh=sMx3AqrtL2EmgQkTIgSYLWZgbv4eRPS/G67Op7ahMPE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=H/3sl9vKJPRJAwti0Xelo4/rOSr4VOXn0LEbFEK+A6RqnBDZ4v+N8eMiwBzlsRJSH VfvLdMd9zExg97CLTSEAwfprF8YR8pZSumZO29EYH3WaHlGtaVisGJdOfiXupnDo57 pHJf0CPECl3iYoYUi/or+IgXdkw02/aJwYiGpAe0= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] New connection IDs are mandatory for intentional migration (#2414) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c5d474c93128_57e23f9643ad45bc1709c9"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2019 09:09:35 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c5d474c93128_57e23f9643ad45bc1709c9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think this strikes a good balance. It isn't practical to forbid migration without CID when NAT's do it behind your back, but allowing it for intentional migration would work against networks attempting to move towards safer modes of operation in the future, some which might only make sense if QUIC does indeed require new CID's on migration. At some point with IPv6, NAT rebinding might be seen the same way as older insecure WLAN standards. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2414#issuecomment-461736782 ----==_mimepart_5c5d474c93128_57e23f9643ad45bc1709c9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I think this strikes a good balance. It isn't practical to forbid migr= ation without CID when NAT's do it behind your back, but allowing it for = intentional migration would work against networks attempting to move towa= rds safer modes of operation in the future, some which might only make se= nse if QUIC does indeed require new CID's on migration.

At some point with IPv6, NAT rebinding might be seen the same way as o= lder insecure WLAN standards.

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= ----==_mimepart_5c5d474c93128_57e23f9643ad45bc1709c9-- From nobody Fri Feb 8 01:13:31 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99EE71288BD for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2019 01:13:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Oot4nbfviP3w for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2019 01:13:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 09B5C126F72 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2019 01:13:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2019 01:13:28 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549617208; bh=WSzVC6sHIW6OU09J+5kU32wOe5enzcm26vZkuyNzpLg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=V6Qh9qwkvTtTiJIrFxLXER+k1uK2l8Q4D5VAjQpUOl2YRSNKy6ixA0fnQAe6pXwXf 9Yv/1GMMVjd7ON9XQS6Dk52t+QWxWtmmGuWkzNnRex0FfY+CB1TRPMYW+GvhpGevKP vSSBI6jJ4I9uEvtSfYnZgbP4wkUEHSPATxgF+Wpw= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] rate-limiting of CID issuance needs to be allowed (#2436) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c5d483845e3_41673f8a63ed45b81738d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2019 09:13:31 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c5d483845e3_41673f8a63ed45b81738d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Those are not scary numbers. It almost fits into the smallest possible connection ID. Keep in mind that you really don't want to reuse values: if you reuse values over that period, you risk reusing a value for which a stateless reset was sent. That might increase the number a little. With 100,000 active connections per server in a 1000 server cluster issuing 16 connection IDs per second for each connection (which is a very high rate, but you have to allow for those connections being new ones), you need 47 bits worth of space if you don't want to repeat once a day. Add 3 for a week's worth of key identifier and that's 50 bits. That's still short of the 64 bits that gQUIC had for connection IDs. If you want to assign randomly, you can do that with 100 bits and avoid the birthday paradox. The numbers seem to play out nicely. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2436#issuecomment-461737728 ----==_mimepart_5c5d483845e3_41673f8a63ed45b81738d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Those are not scary numbers. It almost fits into the smallest possibl= e connection ID.

Keep in mind that you really don't want to reuse values: if you reuse = values over that period, you risk reusing a value for which a stateless r= eset was sent. That might increase the number a little.

With 100,000 active connections per server in a 1000 server cluster is= suing 16 connection IDs per second for each connection (which is a very h= igh rate, but you have to allow for those connections being new ones), yo= u need 47 bits worth of space if you don't want to repeat once a day. Ad= d 3 for a week's worth of key identifier and that's 50 bits. That's stil= l short of the 64 bits that gQUIC had for connection IDs. If you want to= assign randomly, you can do that with 100 bits and avoid the birthday pa= radox.

The numbers seem to play out nicely.

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Well, not scary, but it rules out 32-bit. But that was naive anyway.

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----==_mimepart_5c5d498e9a998_454e3fd0b30d45bc1656a5-- From nobody Fri Feb 8 03:37:46 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4AC112F1AB for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2019 03:37:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5TgnUkQtL97t for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2019 03:37:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CAF2C130DD6 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2019 03:37:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2019 03:37:38 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549625858; bh=tXHEQuQLLaPe9J0sO1ZFdpKj3uhoDSwGr2vHQpt1yhg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=X0a70N1+fN1JuvQAvSiv/lWfuPefY+NrekRu0ma9WGZQIepEgGYf2s/Nn1Yr2QY7H y42Nr0xxQshK0CQ1mS8q4D0KjRW+P2dh3vt6JVhBfwkAl4a3B27NWeiWeD0cNVmG9u BHk1dDNcrNDxUH44B1MoJTthdBuQZG6x5YbkFadA= From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] VarInt all the HTTP things (#2437) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c5d6a024d16b_2623f7e9e0d45c4626199"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2019 11:37:43 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c5d6a024d16b_2623f7e9e0d45c4626199 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LPardue requested changes on this pull request. I requested some changes, but if they are controversial we can move them to separate issues for further discussion. > @@ -303,15 +303,16 @@ specify a value of zero for the QUIC transport parameter ## Unidirectional Streams Unidirectional streams, in either direction, are used for a range of purposes. -The purpose is indicated by a stream type, which is sent as a single byte header -at the start of the stream. The format and structure of data that follows this -header is determined by the stream type. +The purpose is indicated by a stream type, which is sent as a variable-length +integer at the start of the stream. The format and structure of data that you've replaced 'byte header' with 'variable-length integer', but the next sentence refers to 'this header'. This might be confusing to the reader? > @@ -373,7 +374,7 @@ MUST be treated as a stream error of type HTTP_WRONG_STREAM_DIRECTION. 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ -|Stream Type (8)| Push ID (i) ... +| 0x01 (8) | Push ID (i) ... The alternative option is to remove it from the figure altogether. It was not great before the change - see #2338 > @@ -433,12 +437,10 @@ All frames have the following format: A frame includes the following fields: Type: - : An 8-bit type for the frame. - + : A variable-length type for the frame. nit: make this consistent with the frame payload description. e.g. A variable-length integer that identifies the frame type. > @@ -671,14 +673,16 @@ treat the presence of the same parameter more than once as a connection error of type HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME. The payload of a SETTINGS frame consists of zero or more parameters, each -consisting of an unsigned 16-bit setting identifier and a value which uses the +consisting of a setting identifier and a value, each of which uses the "both encoded as" would work too > @@ -881,12 +885,12 @@ the DUPLICATE_PUSH. ### Reserved Frame Types {#frame-grease} -Frame types of the format `0xb + (0x1f * N)` are reserved to exercise the -requirement that unknown types be ignored ({{extensions}}). These frames have no -semantic value, and can be sent when application-layer padding is desired. They -MAY also be sent on connections where no request data is currently being -transferred. Endpoints MUST NOT consider these frames to have any meaning upon -receipt. +Frame types of the format `0x1f * N` for non-zero values of N are reserved to +exercise the requirement that unknown types be ignored ({{extensions}}). These +frames have no semantic value, and can be sent when application-layer padding is +desired. They MAY also be sent on connections where no request data is currently Not a new problem but I wonder if request data can be simplified to data, which covers all cases such as QPACK instructions, response data, control data etc. > @@ -1589,15 +1593,9 @@ The entries in the following table are registered by this document. | NUM_PLACEHOLDERS | 0x8 | {{settings-parameters}} | | ---------------------------- | ------ | ------------------------- | Not a new issue but: RFC 7540 has a column for `Initial Value`. I think it makes sense that HTTP/3 does similar. > @@ -1868,7 +1861,9 @@ use the full 32-bit space. Settings ported from HTTP/2 might choose to redefine the format of their settings to avoid using the 62-bit encoding. Settings need to be defined separately for HTTP/2 and HTTP/3. The IDs of -settings defined in {{!RFC7540}} have been reserved for simplicity. See +settings defined in {{!RFC7540}} have been reserved for simplicity. Note that +the settings identifier space in HTTP/3 is substantially larger (62 bits versus +16 bits), so many HTTP/3 settings have no equivalent HTTP/2 code point. See Unfortunately, `0x1` is reserved by QPACK so it makes a little more difficult to see that this is true. And a quick check of the [HTTP/2 IANA registry](https://www.iana.org/assignments/http2-parameters/http2-parameters.xhtml#settings) shows that 0x0 is also reserved, but I can't seem to find where that is defined in RFC 7540. Checking that, it seems we have a clash on 0x8 due to RFC 8441 - WebSocket over HTTP/2. I think its reasonable that someone might write a WebSocket over HTTP/3 extension and reusing the code point would be nice. Can we move NUM_PLACEHOLDERS to 0x9 and leave 0x8 open? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@LPardue requested changes on this pull request.

I requested some changes, but if they are controversial we can move them to separate issues for further discussion.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -303,15 +303,16 @@ specify a value of zero for the QUIC transport parameter
 ## Unidirectional Streams
 
 Unidirectional streams, in either direction, are used for a range of purposes.
-The purpose is indicated by a stream type, which is sent as a single byte header
-at the start of the stream. The format and structure of data that follows this
-header is determined by the stream type.
+The purpose is indicated by a stream type, which is sent as a variable-length
+integer at the start of the stream. The format and structure of data that

you've replaced 'byte header' with 'variable-length integer', but the next sentence refers to 'this header'. This might be confusing to the reader?

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -373,7 +374,7 @@ MUST be treated as a stream error of type HTTP_WRONG_STREAM_DIRECTION.
  0                   1                   2                   3
  0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
-|Stream Type (8)|                  Push ID (i)                ...
+|    0x01 (8)   |                  Push ID (i)                ...

The alternative option is to remove it from the figure altogether. It was not great before the change - see #2338

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -433,12 +437,10 @@ All frames have the following format:
 A frame includes the following fields:
 
   Type:
-  : An 8-bit type for the frame.
-
+  : A variable-length type for the frame.

nit: make this consistent with the frame payload description. e.g.

A variable-length integer that identifies the frame type.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -671,14 +673,16 @@ treat the presence of the same parameter more than once as a connection error of
 type HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME.
 
 The payload of a SETTINGS frame consists of zero or more parameters, each
-consisting of an unsigned 16-bit setting identifier and a value which uses the
+consisting of a setting identifier and a value, each of which uses the

"both encoded as" would work too

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -881,12 +885,12 @@ the DUPLICATE_PUSH.
 
 ### Reserved Frame Types {#frame-grease}
 
-Frame types of the format `0xb + (0x1f * N)` are reserved to exercise the
-requirement that unknown types be ignored ({{extensions}}). These frames have no
-semantic value, and can be sent when application-layer padding is desired. They
-MAY also be sent on connections where no request data is currently being
-transferred. Endpoints MUST NOT consider these frames to have any meaning upon
-receipt.
+Frame types of the format `0x1f * N` for non-zero values of N are reserved to
+exercise the requirement that unknown types be ignored ({{extensions}}). These
+frames have no semantic value, and can be sent when application-layer padding is
+desired. They MAY also be sent on connections where no request data is currently

Not a new problem but I wonder if request data can be simplified to data, which covers all cases such as QPACK instructions, response data, control data etc.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1589,15 +1593,9 @@ The entries in the following table are registered by this document.
 | NUM_PLACEHOLDERS             |  0x8   | {{settings-parameters}}   |
 | ---------------------------- | ------ | ------------------------- |

Not a new issue but: RFC 7540 has a column for Initial Value. I think it makes sense that HTTP/3 does similar.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1868,7 +1861,9 @@ use the full 32-bit space.  Settings ported from HTTP/2 might choose to redefine
 the format of their settings to avoid using the 62-bit encoding.
 
 Settings need to be defined separately for HTTP/2 and HTTP/3. The IDs of
-settings defined in {{!RFC7540}} have been reserved for simplicity. See
+settings defined in {{!RFC7540}} have been reserved for simplicity.  Note that
+the settings identifier space in HTTP/3 is substantially larger (62 bits versus
+16 bits), so many HTTP/3 settings have no equivalent HTTP/2 code point. See

Unfortunately, 0x1 is reserved by QPACK so it makes a little more difficult to see that this is true. And a quick check of the HTTP/2 IANA registry shows that 0x0 is also reserved, but I can't seem to find where that is defined in RFC 7540.

Checking that, it seems we have a clash on 0x8 due to RFC 8441 - WebSocket over HTTP/2. I think its reasonable that someone might write a WebSocket over HTTP/3 extension and reusing the code point would be nice. Can we move NUM_PLACEHOLDERS to 0x9 and leave 0x8 open?

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A couple of clarifications that can be useful to people who are looking at *PACK for the first time like myself. Not sure about the normative language though. I can reword it if necessary.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2438

Commit Summary

  • Return empty string if table does not have a value
  • Ignore header value from table for literals with name reference

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Let's see how HPACK handles it:

   Either form of header field name representation is followed=
 by the
   header field value represented as a string literal (see Section 5.2).

We could simply add similar verbiage to Sections 4.5.4 and 4.5.5. of the QPACK draft instead.

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It would be good if it could be clarified what will happen if someone needs/tries to send a HTTP request with an http:// uri over H3. I primarily see this to occur when you have a case where you have an HTTP proxy that receives an HTTP request and then have an HTTP/3 connection with the authorative server. If the expectation is that all requests are upgraded by the HTTP/3 sending side, then that needs to be made explicit.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1853,7 +1853,9 @@ An endpoint also MUST NOT initiate connection migration if the peer sent the
 `disable_migration` transport parameter during the handshake.  An endpoint which
 has sent this transport parameter, but detects that a peer has nonetheless
 migrated to a different network MAY treat this as a connection error of type
-INVALID_MIGRATION.
+INVALID_MIGRATION.  Similarly, an endpoint MUST NOT migrate if its peer supplies

As I said on the list, I'm not a big fan of adding this 0-len CID restriction.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -433,12 +437,10 @@ All frames have the following format:
 A frame includes the following fields:
 
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I might propose this comes down to a discovery problem for the proxy. = What method(s) do you envisage the proxy used to decide to make an HTTP/3= connection to the authorative server? This seems related to the discussi= on in HTTP WG - httpwg/http-core#194

If Alt-Svc is being used, the flow might be that the proxy attempts to= make a cleartext HTTP/1.1 connection to the authoritative server and doe= s an upgrade, as described in RFC 7838, to HTTP/3. In which case I don't = think any action is required.

If the proxy wants to opportunistically upgrade via some happy eyeball= s approach described on httpwg/http-core#194, we might want to provide = guidance that either 1) it shouldn't be done for client requests with htt= p:// or 2) that it should always be done.

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This is another variant of #253 -- HTTP/2 and HTTP/3 explicitly include th= e scheme and the authority with all requests, so the server knows what it's= being asked for. The question is how the client decides that a QUIC endpo= int is authoritative for this particular URL.

RFC 7838 describes how an https://-schemed request might come to be sent= to an HTTP/3 endpoint and the resolution of the issue was to ask the HTTP = WG to define other ways. Adding RFC 8164 as well, an http://-schemed resou= rce might also be requested over HTTP/3; it's up to the HTTPbis group wheth= er they want to enable a direct upgrade there as well.

I don't currently see any text required for this, but if you have sugges= tions, I'm happy to review or expand the discussion to the list.

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The fact that it's a SHOULD seems to imply that the server can throttle the issuance of CIDs if it so chooses. So if it wants to have a 16-per-second or lower limit, it's free to do so. @kazuho, is the concern around the combination of "SHOULD ... always"?

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----==_mimepart_5c5dbc3a5abfa_7bba3fb95fed45c4977384-- From nobody Fri Feb 8 09:44:45 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23140129741 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2019 09:44:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2dAFriEcmNLO for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2019 09:44:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 21B9B1294FA for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2019 09:44:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2019 09:44:40 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549647880; bh=1N1vqoWwTNjmu+Wqxo9A0jznt3+NMpJ08SvQmYqkIWo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=p0tBuzSg2/YXoa+dI8K8ueU80HPJeBAEDtHcQXOx6AkI+CXGSqTXzfPeqdqb0Tl8j u9zYTBI5PMHdUd8cz+imo6O05mGuPkgBKamJs1qURCJ09JJbTzaw3Y6nttaVe7CjUE JffHd5n7UiAv6dP+BbDmBcxzWnu8Cpd2nS5kc7vY= From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Modify QPACK steam and instruction terminology (#2440) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c5dc008a4c63_66a33fc3586d45c4977e9"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2019 17:44:44 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c5dc008a4c63_66a33fc3586d45c4977e9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This PR is more controversial than I first anticipated. It is intended to address #2339. QPACK uses the term instruction extensively section 4 goes into great detail about all the different types. However, the instructions have been presented in terms of what streams they appear on. Which makes things a little unclear, and verbose, sometimes. I think it also conflates the idea of the true QPACK unframed encoder and decoder streams, with header block messages (sets of instructions). So this change explicitly creates the terms encoder instruction, decoder instruction and header block instruction. It also removes a lot of the reference to request and push streams. I'm not 100% happy with the net outcome of these changes but posting the PR for feedback. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2440 -- Commit Summary -- * Focus terminology on QPACK instructions rather than stream types * Few more tweaks -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md (146) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2440.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2440.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2440 ----==_mimepart_5c5dc008a4c63_66a33fc3586d45c4977e9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

This PR is more controversial than I first anticipated. It is intended to address #2339.

QPACK uses the term instruction extensively section 4 goes into great detail about all the different types. However, the instructions have been presented in terms of what streams they appear on. Which makes things a little unclear, and verbose, sometimes. I think it also conflates the idea of the true QPACK unframed encoder and decoder streams, with header block messages (sets of instructions).

So this change explicitly creates the terms encoder instruction, decoder instruction and header block instruction. It also removes a lot of the reference to request and push streams.

I'm not 100% happy with the net outcome of these changes but posting the PR for feedback.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2440

Commit Summary

  • Focus terminology on QPACK instructions rather than stream types
  • Few more tweaks

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That would be annoying for long running connections because they might h= ave a policy of rotating CID infrequently. Suddenly having to kill a connec= tion the has no relation to H3 semantics is not good. I'd be happy to set a= limit per day.

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Suddenly having to kill a connection that has no relation to H3 semantics is not good.

GOAWAY is a way of requesting the client to create a new connection for the following requests. It's a the opposite of suddenly killing a connection.

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It's the IETF equivalent of an offer you can't refuse.
And the one offering it doesn't have a choice either, if counting to max is the only option, and max is designed low to deal with many short lived connections.

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----==_mimepart_5c5dd5607ebe7_7d5c3fa3f4cd45c4668731-- From nobody Fri Feb 8 11:17:34 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7598130F3C for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2019 11:17:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.596 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.596 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XWTw6Yn06VE0 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2019 11:17:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DCB06130F3B for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2019 11:17:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2019 11:17:30 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549653450; bh=WXIBpa6MyMzU7RnCiGzA4WuHkyBEtYydYte6T08eVwg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=GjtHar3qR4IpicBw8qLZ96dvus7NWVvz3fHpd7wWO6CgsNmeFwOSJzab3mrEWSM4Z fiLCI5U3ej5EURFtlRGRi9gYZSzIKihTU5P22o3dgLm9E3IH6xD4nvSyMv4KtrRII9 18TNXOZAPqUQAkBXhKMpt1stz6BpsM6GpA/sPb2k= From: Brian E Carpenter Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Ipv6 flow label (#2399) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c5dd5caa12b5_77e93f8b1dcd45b496613"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: becarpenter X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2019 19:17:34 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c5dd5caa12b5_77e93f8b1dcd45b496613 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit fwiw [RFC6437](https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6437) is (intentionally) non-specific about the hash function. It says "If a hash algorithm is used, as suggested in Section 3, it SHOULD include a step that makes the flow label value significantly difficult to predict [RFC4086], even with knowledge of the algorithm being used." We didn't see any real need to specify a crypto hash for this purpose, but it's certainly OK. (The example in Appendix A of 6437 stinks and I regret it.) -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2399#issuecomment-461914419 ----==_mimepart_5c5dd5caa12b5_77e93f8b1dcd45b496613 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

fwiw = RFC6437 is (intentionally) non-specific about the hash function. It s= ays "If a hash algorithm is used, as suggested in Section 3, it SHOULD in= clude a step that makes the flow label value significantly difficult to p= redict [RFC4086], even with knowledge of the algorithm being used." We di= dn't see any real need to specify a crypto hash for this purpose, but it'= s certainly OK. (The example in Appendix A of 6437 stinks and I regret it= .)

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As also discussed on the mailing list in another context: if you are o= ffered to start a new connection mid up-load of multiple Gigabytes, or ho= urs of transaction processing, the one transport endpoint might be happy,= but both application endpoints will be sad and disappointed.

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Currently the section 5.1(https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-transport-18#section-5.1) says:
"An endpoint whose peer has selected a zero-length connection ID MUST continue to use a zero-length connection ID for the lifetime of the connection and MUST NOT send packets from any other local address."

In practice, 0 length connection IDs are only expected to be used when the receiver's IP/port identifies the connection, because otherwise QUIC connections cannot survive NAT rebinding. Given 0 byte connection IDs are not a privacy concern, the only reason I've heard to prohibit this is that we want to ensure servers never use trial decryption to deal with explicit migration. I don't believe that's a compelling reason, given there are existing use cases such as Peer-to-peer(ie: WebRTC) where we might want to use 0-byte connection IDs, but supporting migration may also be valuable. And I don't think any even small-scale server is going to use trial decryption to handle migration due to the excessive CPU cost.

There is already a transport parameter to indicate connection migration is not supported, so the peer should have a clear signal about whether they can migrate with a 0-byte CID.

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if you are offered to start a new connection mid up-load of multiple Gig= abytes, or hours of transaction processing,

That's an untypical scenario for HTTP.

Note also that even if the client runs out of spare CIDs, it can still c= ontinue using the connection. The only thing the client cannot do is initia= te a voluntary migration. Considering the fact that migration is not a mand= atory feature (both for client and server), I do not think there's a strong= reason to argue against endpoints refusing to provide additional room for = migration at certain moments.

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= ----==_mimepart_5c5dd92fddab1_1e553fa4666d45bc14872-- From nobody Fri Feb 8 11:39:37 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14CD1130F58 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2019 11:39:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jvNCmv1HMUtM for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2019 11:39:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 27546130F1A for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2019 11:39:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2019 11:39:32 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549654772; bh=4f0QRHKAdaqAl2NYgz5Sc5AbVH5BZ4wFXUYNjg9cUtM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Us+Fcux8Yu0VFkZ7Fa2Dj5KpzqFiz+WbYI8GF2v+yUFYWQDTHEwfFGtAZ+Bn22l3y txR5MBp4zeTATJXMXpztcmSog/ASGL9AqA9HroikEEk2lG/wj3SlaCmIlb4TxS0TFI L3RAdq6da9sdQ1w9XF4E1bAUnvp1deNESgDseGDA= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] rate-limiting of CID issuance needs to be allowed (#2436) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c5ddaf4c81b5_76c73fb38e8d45c45940"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2019 19:39:36 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c5ddaf4c81b5_76c73fb38e8d45c45940 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As I mentioned earlier, I am concerned about non-HTTP uses cases, and for that matter also about mixing the layers. Transport should not rely on GOAWAY, and HTTP layer should be not concerned with refreshing CID's. If you at all risk running out of CID's and you can't do anything about it, then you are not going to rotate CID's at all. That might also not be necessary, but is what will happen. A limit per day is unproblematic, like at most 2 migrations per day without migration, reset counter on migration. If client is able to migrate enough to still cause a problem, we might need a total daily cap. >From another perspective: If the concern regarding conflicts only has to do with a low risk of stateless reset, I'd rather have that than a high risk of running out of CID's. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2436#issuecomment-461921648 ----==_mimepart_5c5ddaf4c81b5_76c73fb38e8d45c45940 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

As I mentioned earlier, I am concerned about non-HTTP uses cases, and = for that matter also about mixing the layers. Transport should not rely o= n GOAWAY, and HTTP layer should be not concerned with refreshing CID's.

If you at all risk running out of CID's and you can't do anything abou= t it, then you are not going to rotate CID's at all. That might also not = be necessary, but is what will happen.

A limit per day is unproblematic, like at most 2 migrations per day wi= thout migration, reset counter on migration. If client is able to migrate= enough to still cause a problem, we might need a total daily cap.

From another perspective: If the concern regarding conflicts only has = to do with a low risk of stateless reset, I'd rather have that than a hig= h risk of running out of CID's.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 Clients MAY move to a new connection ID at any time based on
 implementation-specific concerns.  For example, after a period of network
-inactivity NAT rebinding might occur when the client begins sending data again.
+inactivity, where NAT rebinding might occur when the client begins sending data

Not adding; linking to #2441 where this separate issue will be discussed.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1853,7 +1853,9 @@ An endpoint also MUST NOT initiate connection migration if the peer sent the
 `disable_migration` transport parameter during the handshake.  An endpoint which
 has sent this transport parameter, but detects that a peer has nonetheless
 migrated to a different network MAY treat this as a connection error of type
-INVALID_MIGRATION.
+INVALID_MIGRATION.  Similarly, an endpoint MUST NOT migrate if its peer supplies

Not adding; linking to #2441 where this separate issue will be discussed.

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----==_mimepart_5c5dec69b27bc_7b333f7f902d45c041139-- From nobody Fri Feb 8 12:58:49 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93454131000 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2019 12:58:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KuapgmcBaEDt for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2019 12:58:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E3820130FF6 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2019 12:58:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2019 12:58:44 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549659524; bh=TpxgATrG7xxIkvJMddtIVkFlpZAEM5INAvxWgagzfUA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Fv+s0vGfDZIpTxR7qS5CwfXTC1XfH2mE6XkPNOjbCardItxDO3zhtPb5YKkmOIb7e FBbB2bVNe8EE6hG+liTTzRTQExq2FhtBmuNKL13EDNw/L/zJcmsa8kAMEQQVeeynkg nKl17fG0M8SniBk6qQsyOy2Oi9Kt7H/8bT+naN0s= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] New connection IDs are mandatory for intentional migration (#2414) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c5ded84ab2a2_7b5f3f7f902d45c0456ea"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2019 20:58:48 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c5ded84ab2a2_7b5f3f7f902d45c0456ea Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ianswett commented on this pull request. > @@ -2089,15 +2091,19 @@ different local addresses, as discussed in {{connection-id}}. For this to be effective endpoints need to ensure that connections IDs they provide cannot be linked by any other entity. -This eliminates the use of the connection ID for linking activity from -the same connection on different networks. Header protection ensures -that packet numbers cannot be used to correlate activity. This does not prevent +Endpoints MAY move to a new connection ID at any time. + +An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID if it initiates connection migration, +unless the peer has selected a zero-length connection ID. Using a new Above we say you can't migrate if you use a zero-length connection ID, so I don't understand the purpose of "unless the peer has selected a zero-length connection ID." -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2414#pullrequestreview-201782539 ----==_mimepart_5c5ded84ab2a2_7b5f3f7f902d45c0456ea Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@ianswett commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2089,15 +2091,19 @@ different local addresses, as discussed in {{connection-id}}.  For this to be
 effective endpoints need to ensure that connections IDs they provide cannot be
 linked by any other entity.
 
-This eliminates the use of the connection ID for linking activity from
-the same connection on different networks.  Header protection ensures
-that packet numbers cannot be used to correlate activity.  This does not prevent
+Endpoints MAY move to a new connection ID at any time.
+
+An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID if it initiates connection migration,
+unless the peer has selected a zero-length connection ID.  Using a new

Above we say you can't migrate if you use a zero-length connection ID, so I don't understand the purpose of "unless the peer has selected a zero-length connection ID."

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -Endpoints that use connection IDs with length greater than zero could have their
-activity correlated if their peers keep using the same destination connection ID
-after migration. Endpoints that receive packets with a previously unused
-Destination Connection ID SHOULD change to sending packets with a connection ID
-that has not been used on any other network path.  The goal here is to ensure
-that packets sent on different paths cannot be correlated. To fulfill this
-privacy requirement, endpoints that initiate migration and use connection IDs
-with length greater than zero SHOULD provide their peers with new connection IDs
-before migration.
-
-Caution:
-
-: If both endpoints change connection ID in response to seeing a change in
-  connection ID from their peer, then this can trigger an infinite sequence of
-  changes.
+An endpoint MUST NOT intentionally migrate to a new path if it does not have a

This sentence seems duplicative of the paragraph above starting with "An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID ..."

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4106,6 +4102,12 @@ A client MUST NOT include an original connection ID, a stateless reset token, or
 a preferred address.  A server MUST treat receipt of any of these transport
 parameters as a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR.
 
+max_connection_ids (0x000e):
+
+: The maximum number of connection IDs that the peer is willing to store.
+  This value includes only connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames.
+  If this parameter is absent, a default of 0 is assumed.

True -- we have an exemption for the one HTTP setting which is purely advisory. Since this is a suggestion, reducing it wouldn't necessarily hurt anything. (But there's no prohibition on the sender to not blow up on exceeding the limit, either.)

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -963,6 +963,9 @@ followed by the `S` bit indicating whether the reference is into the static
 field is represented as an integer with a 6-bit prefix (see Section 5.1 of
 [RFC7541]).
 
+If the entry in the static or dynamic table does not provide any header field
+value (as opposed to a name), a zero-length string MUST be used.
+

Setting aside the legacy HPACK table that had nothing at index 0 (and my implementation did indeed return (String.Empty,String.Empty)), is this even possible? If there's a reference to an index which isn't valid, that's an error. If it is valid, then something has been inserted there -- which might have been a pair of empty strings, but that's still the contents.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -373,7 +374,7 @@ MUST be treated as a stream error of type HTTP_WRONG_STREAM_DIRECTION.
  0                   1                   2                   3
  0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
-|Stream Type (8)|                  Push ID (i)                ...
+|    0x01 (8)   |                  Push ID (i)                ...

A varint whose value is specified, and therefore fits in one octet. But point taken -- you're not required to use the minimal encoding, so this is overly restrictive.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -963,6 +963,9 @@ followed by the `S` bit indicating whether the reference is into the static
 field is represented as an integer with a 6-bit prefix (see Section 5.1 of
 [RFC7541]).
 
+If the entry in the static or dynamic table does not provide any header field
+value (as opposed to a name), a zero-length string MUST be used.
+

I think the "problem case" is referencing a static table item with empty value. We discussed how to build the header list and felt that it it the job of the H3 endpoint to validate the header list, not QPACKs. This change makes it clear what to do, and what H3 could check in validation.

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Not a new issue but: RFC 7540 has a column for Initial Value. I think it makes sense that HTTP/3 does similar.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1589,15 +1593,9 @@ The entries in the following table are registered by this document.
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Opened #2442.

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Yes, along with the session ticket. The ticket transfer is a bit of a = black box so I can only propose the high level concept. (I'm wondering if= Retry and 0-RTT could be made more similar, but whatever).

That's been discussed before, and while it makes sense to me, it means= that load balancers need to be able to differentiate the two types (and = potentially sizes) of CID.

At least such that they have an option to do so if they are so incline= d. I.e. there is no immediate downside since you can also just provide a = standard CID if that is better for a particular infrastructure.

As to sizes, that was a bigger problem a while ago when the CID size w= as implicit. Also, since the CID is only used for 0-RTT, it can be large = without significant cost - it should/could be changed immediately upon 0-= RTT server acceptance.

As to v1, I agree that might be stretching it a bit.

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[ci skip] From nobody Fri Feb 8 13:54:08 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8808D13101C for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2019 13:54:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id go4vuKnnlC2h for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2019 13:54:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A6117131012 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2019 13:54:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2019 13:54:03 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549662843; bh=fzTawDeaLBjDO6MvwWhceV0LHVOx2n4HQR7nqFnTJPM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=SA2JKYvZ9VUNcREAannsILqcPyVIty9VjVO6bAGZCQR5aFKFyjoTwhT65bYuOBVbE +5cOzNNOYHtBcxV/j7LpEUWROWq205izrvn0sfegSikM4VAzANepXmg5Me6u0TmykV Lo6/8QDkv7NBNKiVNIdW6R62KohpuEfs0FSJnP8M= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Modify QPACK steam and instruction terminology (#2440) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c5dfa7b635b3_16773fdbcd8d45bc3403c8"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2019 21:54:07 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c5dfa7b635b3_16773fdbcd8d45bc3403c8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MikeBishop approved this pull request. In general, I think this is fine. > -The decoder stream carries information used to ensure consistency of the dynamic -table. Information is sent from the decoder to the encoder; that is, the server -informs the client about the processing of the client's header blocks and table -updates, and the client informs the server about the processing of the server's -header blocks and table updates. +Decoder instructions provide information used to ensure consistency of the +dynamic table. They are sent from the decoder to the encoder on a decoder stream; Need to rewrap this paragraph -- your build break is an overlong line here. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2440#pullrequestreview-201801599 ----==_mimepart_5c5dfa7b635b3_16773fdbcd8d45bc3403c8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@MikeBishop approved this pull request.

In general, I think this is fine.

In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

>  
-The decoder stream carries information used to ensure consistency of the dynamic
-table. Information is sent from the decoder to the encoder; that is, the server
-informs the client about the processing of the client's header blocks and table
-updates, and the client informs the server about the processing of the server's
-header blocks and table updates.
+Decoder instructions provide information used to ensure consistency of the
+dynamic table. They are sent from the decoder to the encoder on a decoder stream;

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Updated from feedback. > @@ -303,15 +303,16 @@ specify a value of zero for the QUIC transport parameter ## Unidirectional Streams Unidirectional streams, in either direction, are used for a range of purposes. -The purpose is indicated by a stream type, which is sent as a single byte header -at the start of the stream. The format and structure of data that follows this -header is determined by the stream type. +The purpose is indicated by a stream type, which is sent as a variable-length +integer at the start of the stream. The format and structure of data that Where do you see "this header"? > @@ -384,11 +385,12 @@ client MUST treat this as a connection error of type HTTP_DUPLICATE_PUSH. ### Reserved Stream Types {#stream-grease} -Stream types of the format `0x1f * N` are reserved to exercise the requirement -that unknown types be ignored. These streams have no semantic meaning, and can -be sent when application-layer padding is desired. They MAY also be sent on -connections where no request data is currently being transferred. Endpoints MUST -NOT consider these streams to have any meaning upon receipt. +Stream types of the format `0x1f * N` for non-zero values of N are reserved to +exercise the requirement that unknown types be ignored. These streams have no +semantic meaning, and can be sent when application-layer padding is desired. Changed to "semantics" both places this occurs. > @@ -373,7 +374,7 @@ MUST be treated as a stream error of type HTTP_WRONG_STREAM_DIRECTION. 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ -|Stream Type (8)| Push ID (i) ... +| 0x01 (8) | Push ID (i) ... I reverted this particular commit and re-did it to use the explicit value but still show it as a varint, which seems the most accurate. 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Updated from feedback.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -303,15 +303,16 @@ specify a value of zero for the QUIC transport parameter
 ## Unidirectional Streams
 
 Unidirectional streams, in either direction, are used for a range of purposes.
-The purpose is indicated by a stream type, which is sent as a single byte header
-at the start of the stream. The format and structure of data that follows this
-header is determined by the stream type.
+The purpose is indicated by a stream type, which is sent as a variable-length
+integer at the start of the stream. The format and structure of data that

Where do you see "this header"?

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -384,11 +385,12 @@ client MUST treat this as a connection error of type HTTP_DUPLICATE_PUSH.
 
 ### Reserved Stream Types {#stream-grease}
 
-Stream types of the format `0x1f * N` are reserved to exercise the requirement
-that unknown types be ignored. These streams have no semantic meaning, and can
-be sent when application-layer padding is desired.  They MAY also be sent on
-connections where no request data is currently being transferred. Endpoints MUST
-NOT consider these streams to have any meaning upon receipt.
+Stream types of the format `0x1f * N` for non-zero values of N are reserved to
+exercise the requirement that unknown types be ignored. These streams have no
+semantic meaning, and can be sent when application-layer padding is desired.

Changed to "semantics" both places this occurs.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -373,7 +374,7 @@ MUST be treated as a stream error of type HTTP_WRONG_STREAM_DIRECTION.
  0                   1                   2                   3
  0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
-|Stream Type (8)|                  Push ID (i)                ...
+|    0x01 (8)   |                  Push ID (i)                ...

I reverted this particular commit and re-did it to use the explicit value but still show it as a varint, which seems the most accurate. (I know @LPardue would prefer I remove it entirely.)

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The IDs of frames defined in {{!RFC7540}} have been -reserved for simplicity. See {{iana-frames}}. +reserved for simplicity. Note that the frame type space in HTTP/3 is +substantially larger (62 bits versus 8 bits), so many HTTP/3 frame types have no +equivalent HTTP/2 code point. See {{iana-frames}}. I'm inclined to think that either is correct, since there can be many types (each of which has no equivalent code point) or a range of types (which has no corresponding range of code points). However, I don't care that much. :-) -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2437#discussion_r255264589 ----==_mimepart_5c5e0d84bf6a1_407e3fbbb80d45b8376661 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1824,7 +1815,9 @@ CONTINUATION (0x9):
 
 Frame types defined by extensions to HTTP/2 need to be separately registered for
 HTTP/3 if still applicable.  The IDs of frames defined in {{!RFC7540}} have been
-reserved for simplicity.  See {{iana-frames}}.
+reserved for simplicity.  Note that the frame type space in HTTP/3 is
+substantially larger (62 bits versus 8 bits), so many HTTP/3 frame types have no
+equivalent HTTP/2 code point.   See {{iana-frames}}.

I'm inclined to think that either is correct, since there can be many types (each of which has no equivalent code point) or a range of types (which has no corresponding range of code points). However, I don't care that much. :-)

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I think its reasonable that someone might write a WebSocket over HTTP/3 extension and reusing the code point would be nice. Can we move NUM_PLACEHOLDERS to 0x9 and leave 0x8 open? _Originally posted by @LPardue in https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2437_ -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2443 ----==_mimepart_5c5e0ebbaf7ab_10e93fccc90d45b448893e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Checking the HTTP/2 IANA registry, it seems we have a clash on 0x8 due to RFC 8441 - WebSocket over HTTP/2. I think its reasonable that someone might write a WebSocket over HTTP/3 extension and reusing the code point would be nice. Can we move NUM_PLACEHOLDERS to 0x9 and leave 0x8 open?

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Can you add a sub-heading(##) for each of these considerations, like in the transport draft?

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----==_mimepart_5c5e199f817b6_3753f8e732d45c41604dc-- From nobody Fri Feb 8 16:07:15 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05F75131074 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2019 16:06:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7OetyisqStth for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2019 16:06:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 36E38130E8B for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2019 16:06:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2019 16:06:55 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549670815; bh=ugSlUj7i8wFjd6K6VUccBi16GpgtFAyvQ0jDULZtOfY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=UqXTX82o1ZXJ+cLUwUAHGe4xfsacjkrPIkYHMokm1VrWQDY6+V2GfRtiHx8FnVjtz wJutDubD3RBcBJrom4+5Bf3X7FdNOotnYf9Aw7v95stTSQvT2Uso4RJElM8YZ09OxE en8cOMMJJV1QhfnwqoFiU+M+O82p5E7ovvVLVfFk= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Migration in Security Considerations (#2427) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c5e199f74431_59603fc8d2ad45b41685c4"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2019 00:07:00 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c5e199f74431_59603fc8d2ad45b41685c4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Merged #2427 into master. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2427#event-2128432556 ----==_mimepart_5c5e199f74431_59603fc8d2ad45b41685c4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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[ci skip] From nobody Fri Feb 8 16:08:22 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 291C3130E8B for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2019 16:08:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.455 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.455 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id O0JeZK3t5qVD for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2019 16:08:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D922F130E62 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2019 16:08:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2019 16:08:18 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549670898; bh=0JtUJZzFu4rBPNWm3LQgzqZlRVglZA2Oc9tMs/qPHvg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=c762f37Kb0ytNgg8QARi/RYxmhypxJY+/ITii40etPXHuuP+WGt0yA+QWJdES5fnC rZjY33tCCUC9AqsSn5ED3yIMZPfIZmJCQFtMbaqQJAZpKD2m3ex6SsERVYev2gYJ2U 1E0rTNWt/inM0glxzmEqPZ8H3WOsMr+C1SMpWDFo= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Define "httpq" (#348) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c5e19f2eec1_5c443ff69e8d45bc53320"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2019 00:08:20 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c5e19f2eec1_5c443ff69e8d45bc53320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Severely bitrotten, and the WG is adamantly not going this direction. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Severely bitrotten, and the WG is adamantly not going this direction.

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Closed #348.

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[ci skip] From nobody Fri Feb 8 16:48:35 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FAAD131066 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2019 16:48:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id S7mrYVU7U6OK for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2019 16:48:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BAE75130F33 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2019 16:48:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2019 16:48:30 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549673310; bh=z7LKUFGQkAkJP73zMtsYqxJsC5GLT3YqcwsYW2ctKnA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=y0C/KzmoUqqOKcj78fU9kCM3kPCP9t5M27iDQncQnWGS3De0BTGWiW1ObjGAFIDu0 YeXP3aTZIThoCQnf892aL1JALIYFfL+yHoyMKHdafLx4bRHMW8SRtwZpdGGsLUlrJy qX3aoZcw+ngZA+v1ZzJLbjrIQ5GmUgDRpWUsRP5w= From: erickinnear Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] clarify what happens when consuming CIDs excessively (#2428) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c5e235e7fb83_586d3f87552d45bc109694"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: erickinnear X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2019 00:48:34 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c5e235e7fb83_586d3f87552d45bc109694 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @mikkelfj I think we should have a separate discussion around a sensible default. Part of the idea here was to make sure that we were very unlikely to run out, even around lost/retransmitted packets on different paths. Choosing a very low number brings with it other potential issues which probably should hold up this change? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2428#issuecomment-461995108 ----==_mimepart_5c5e235e7fb83_586d3f87552d45bc109694 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@mikkelfj I think we should have a separate discussion aroun= d a sensible default. Part of the idea here was to make sure that we were= very unlikely to run out, even around lost/retransmitted packets on diff= erent paths. Choosing a very low number brings with it other potential is= sues which probably should hold up this change?

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= ----==_mimepart_5c5e235e7fb83_586d3f87552d45bc109694-- From nobody Fri Feb 8 17:07:04 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26B4513106A for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2019 17:07:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iy9zFIuHkRFJ for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2019 17:07:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6EABA131069 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2019 17:07:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2019 17:07:00 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549674420; bh=63v9CshPXgdUBSaXdJtQHi8EdzE2EysxLj7Vti2sIQY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=qioo6hND9cycPQNwtzF0poogm6yZ/E07mhdL8+NBC/OgkIRmV/2on7z7fiRoYikiP xqITrJJeVhOBBleoS1fk4RBP6IaprUDz9kPt2VUjr3MhunzH0+4L4zXLnODloljHFX +UwmUlHDalzE6WWJRoqYKDHwWWy+AEpesHpyDfwM= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] rate-limiting of CID issuance needs to be allowed (#2436) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c5e27b46673b_3cbb3f9247ad45bc451fc"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2019 01:07:03 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c5e27b46673b_3cbb3f9247ad45bc451fc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I am concerned about non-HTTP uses cases, and for that matter also about mixing the layers. Transport should not rely on GOAWAY, and HTTP layer should be not concerned with refreshing CID's. Fair enough. Though my point is that _for HTTP/3_ (which happens to be the primary target of QUIC v1) just capping the number of CIDs is totally fine. The proposal does not mandate such behavior. It's merely clarifying that such behavior is permissible. When you are to define an application protocol for QUIC v1 that requires the connections to survive lots of migrations, you would be required to clarify that the servers should support that, regardless of the outcome of this issue. That is because, as stated in [my previous comment]( https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2436#issuecomment-461919062), migration is an optional feature of QUIC v1. Running out of CID is no worse than connecting to a server that does not support migration in terms of the transport spec. To put it another way, while I can understand your concern, I think it's orthogonal to this issue. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2436#issuecomment-461997482 ----==_mimepart_5c5e27b46673b_3cbb3f9247ad45bc451fc Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I am concerned about non-HTTP uses cases, and for that matter also abo= ut mixing the layers. Transport should not rely on GOAWAY, and HTTP layer= should be not concerned with refreshing CID's.

Fair enough. Though my point is that for HTTP/3 (which happen= s to be the primary target of QUIC v1) just capping the number of CIDs is= totally fine. The proposal does not mandate such behavior. It's merely c= larifying that such behavior is permissible.

When you are to define an application protocol for QUIC v1 that requir= es the connections to survive lots of migrations, you would be required t= o clarify that the servers should support that, regardless of the outcome= of this issue. That is because, as stated in my previous comment, migration is an optional feature of QUIC = v1. Running out of CID is no worse than connecting to a server that does = not support migration in terms of the transport spec.

To put it another way, while I can understand your concern, I think it= 's orthogonal to this issue.

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I think I agree that we can remove MUST NOT, assuming that we would recommend (i.e. SHOULD) servers using 0-byte CID to set the disable migration flag.

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----==_mimepart_5c5e2bbf94129_40e3f98446d45b8162794-- From nobody Fri Feb 8 17:50:41 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 222FB1310C3 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2019 17:50:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.596 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.596 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id S2isa3d8GORk for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2019 17:50:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 18F6D1310C1 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2019 17:50:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2019 17:50:33 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549677033; bh=B++bB5JYK8BQdlC8W9h0G9J+BMqsDDtIQKkuov5Jirg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=U8FMMGj1Kxjqu0ZVARxHNF1rGPrVRoHje1Ln4+F4NmFddlmQecF7ycdwY0wgvRe9f 0LTW2UDl1cbUUb0MeCiBt/IARilWBHxly2/YEangO6o+GhRcVzzsdyFVZD5aKpixzV 4n3lv7PXq2iVi8wmeemI/p7s2KZrDKNBPeO0V9ag= From: martinduke Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] quic-tls nits (#2445) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c5e31e9eadc6_11bd3fd635ed45b81161c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinduke X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2019 01:50:39 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c5e31e9eadc6_11bd3fd635ed45b81161c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I suspect these are uncontroversial. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2445 -- Commit Summary -- * quic-tls nits -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md (8) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2445.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2445.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2445 ----==_mimepart_5c5e31e9eadc6_11bd3fd635ed45b81161c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I suspect these are uncontroversial.

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@marten-seemann requested changes on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -788,7 +788,7 @@ The value of initial_salt is a 20 byte sequence shown in the figure in
 hexadecimal notation. Future versions of QUIC SHOULD generate a new salt value,
 thus ensuring that the keys are different for each version of QUIC. This
 prevents a middlebox that only recognizes one version of QUIC from seeing or
-modifying the contents of handshake packets from future versions.
+modifying the contents of Initial packets from future versions.

Initial is a version-dependent concept.

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I am not quite as sure of these, but I believe they match the intent better.

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----==_mimepart_5c5e36dbb1b50_6433fcbe14d45bc10688d-- From nobody Fri Feb 8 18:16:42 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C359130F1B for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2019 18:16:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id toKEbrzNkOL0 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2019 18:16:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C4957128B14 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2019 18:16:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2019 18:16:37 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549678597; bh=+eS5Ly16AYcgIM7LZSOEtxFtsacoZCEcsCAdmfO9vRk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=tGMHrWW0RztKf/jXTCx2tu+dmvNzt3yFAIR26cBjvy1lnx2cfCXM/GDEofgPJ3mrL gmv95viDbtVB/1vhzyoTu130V4oQZCxzJc1L3CJKLh85ZU2YIct62EDkm1217xtSJV BrkgozYUQKEh//HTmNs71X+q024jWcy6lgL9Ky8s= From: martinduke Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Justification for Key Separation doesn't make sense (#2447) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c5e3805bbd1a_513f3fc3738d45c059920"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinduke X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2019 02:16:40 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c5e3805bbd1a_513f3fc3738d45c059920 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In section 9.4 of the TLS draft: > In using TLS, the central key schedule of TLS is used. As a result of the TLS handshake messages being integrated into the calculation of secrets, the inclusion of the QUIC transport parameters extension ensures that handshake and 1-RTT keys are not the same as those that might be produced by a server running TLS over TCP. However, 0-RTT keys only include the ClientHello message and might therefore use the same secrets. To avoid the possibility of cross-protocol key synchronization, additional measures are provided to improve key separation. To a naive reader like me, this doesn't make any sense. Handshake and 1RTT keys are fine because they hash the transport parameters. If 0-RTT keys include the ClientHello, they also contain transport parameters. So what's the problem? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2447 ----==_mimepart_5c5e3805bbd1a_513f3fc3738d45c059920 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

In section 9.4 of the TLS draft:

In using TLS, the central key schedule of TLS is used. As a result of the TLS handshake messages being integrated into the calculation of secrets, the inclusion of the QUIC transport parameters extension ensures that handshake and 1-RTT keys are not the same as those that might be produced by a server running TLS over TCP. However, 0-RTT keys only include the ClientHello message and might therefore use the same secrets. To avoid the possibility of cross-protocol key synchronization, additional measures are provided to improve key separation.

To a naive reader like me, this doesn't make any sense. Handshake and 1RTT keys are fine because they hash the transport parameters. If 0-RTT keys include the ClientHello, they also contain transport parameters. So what's the problem?

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duplicate, sorry

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +  max_ack_delay = 0
+  kPersistentCongestionThreshold = 2
+
+If an eck-eliciting packet is sent at time = 0, the following scenario would
+illustrate persistent congestion:
+
+  t=0 | Send Pkt #1 (App Data)
+  t=1 | Send Pkt #2 (PTO 1)
+  t=3 | Send Pkt #3 (PTO 2)
+  t=7 | Send Pkt #4 (PTO 3)
+  t=8 | Recv ACK of Pkt #4
+
+The first three packets are determined to be lost when the ACK of packet 4 is
+received at t=8.  The congestion period is calculated as the time between the
+oldest and newest lost packets: (3 - 0) = 3.  The duration for persistent
+congestion is equal to: (1 * ((2 ^ 2) - 1)) = 3.  Because the threshold was

I had a hard time figuring out where this equation came from. Maybe it's more readable if you don't fill in the value for the kPersistentCongestionThreshold?

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +  rttvar = 0
+  max_ack_delay = 0
+  kPersistentCongestionThreshold = 2
+
+If an eck-eliciting packet is sent at time = 0, the following scenario would
+illustrate persistent congestion:
+
+  t=0 | Send Pkt #1 (App Data)
+  t=1 | Send Pkt #2 (PTO 1)
+  t=3 | Send Pkt #3 (PTO 2)
+  t=7 | Send Pkt #4 (PTO 3)
+  t=8 | Recv ACK of Pkt #4
+
+The first three packets are determined to be lost when the ACK of packet 4 is
+received at t=8.  The congestion period is calculated as the time between the
+oldest and newest lost packets: (3 - 0) = 3.  The duration for persistent

This doesn't match the description in the first paragraph, does it?

When an ACK frame is received that establishes loss of all in-flight packets, sent over a long enough period of time, the network is considered to be experiencing persistent congestion.

With this algorithm, we would detect persistent congestion even if packet 2 and 4 were acked, right?

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I agree with @ekr. The key separation design is fine, but the se= ntence about 0-RTT doesn't make any sense. I would delete the sentence ab= out 0-RTT, so it would read thus:

In using TLS, the central key schedule of TLS is used. As a result of= the TLS
handshake messages being integrated into the calculation of secrets, the<= br> inclusion of the QUIC transport parameters extension ensures that keys ar= e
not the same as those that might be produced by a server running
TLS over TCP. To further diminish the possibility of cross-protocol key<= br> synchronization, additional measures are provided to improve key separati= on.

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -788,7 +788,7 @@ The value of initial_salt is a 20 byte sequence shown in the figure in
 hexadecimal notation. Future versions of QUIC SHOULD generate a new salt value,
 thus ensuring that the keys are different for each version of QUIC. This
 prevents a middlebox that only recognizes one version of QUIC from seeing or
-modifying the contents of handshake packets from future versions.
+modifying the contents of Initial packets from future versions.

but the concept of the version 1 salt is directly related to Initial packets...

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Yeah, I think we can argue that it's not just about using something ot= her than TLS over TCP. We use the protocol name as a prefix because we be= lieve that every protocol needs to use different keys.

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -788,7 +788,7 @@ The value of initial_salt is a 20 byte sequence shown in the figure in
 hexadecimal notation. Future versions of QUIC SHOULD generate a new salt value,
 thus ensuring that the keys are different for each version of QUIC. This
 prevents a middlebox that only recognizes one version of QUIC from seeing or
-modifying the contents of handshake packets from future versions.
+modifying the contents of Initial packets from future versions.

True, but you still can't talk about "Initial packets from future versions". Future version might not even have Initial packets.

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The proposal does not mandate such behavior. It's merely clarifying th= at such behavior is permissible.

I was concerned that you wanted to make it a requirement. Anyway, I'd = also like that behaviour is reasonable predictable so app protocols don't= have too many constraints on deployments. A stack used for HTTP might we= ll be used for other things.

I'm still wondering if there are benefits to rotating CID's when not m= igrating, but I think there is since you might want to refresh routing ta= bles. This is starting to be a separate, but related issue, but one thing= is rate limiting, the other is convincing peer to rotate or not rotate w= ithin a given time frame, with no migration. I'd be best if transport cou= ld take the guesswork out of this.

Overall, I could see a requirement to rotate daily and requirement to = supply a min count of CID's daily, just to ensure all entities, including= middle boxes have something to work from.

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I'm wondering if there is a difference between failed decryption and v= ersion number.

If the versions differ, it doesn't really make sense to try to read a = subsequent coalesced packet, unless you want to do trial and error since = the concepts of coalescing and length fields are not defined in the gener= al case. Even if you understand the version, two version can not (or shou= ld not?) exist in the same datagram.

If packet protection fails on the same version, it might just be a tim= ing issue, or the (to me) dreaded path probe with prefixed knowingly inva= lid handshake.

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -216,10 +216,12 @@ Note that this omits the EndOfEarlyData message, which is not used in QUIC (see
 
 Data is protected using a number of encryption levels:
 
-- Plaintext
-- Early Data (0-RTT) Keys
-- Handshake Keys
-- Application Data (1-RTT) Keys
+- Initial Keys can be derived by any observer, and so they do not
+  provide cryptographic protection or authentication.
+- Early Data (0-RTT) Keys. These keys are not forward-secure and must protect
+  only idempotent data.
+- Handshake Keys do not authenticate either endpoint.
+- Application Data (1-RTT) Keys provide full authentication and encryption.

I think this looses to overview of what levels exist. This bullet list now replaces an overview with an explanation. Perhaps keep the original list, and add an explanation below.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -269,7 +271,7 @@ At a high level, there are two main interactions between the TLS and QUIC
 components:
 
 * The TLS component sends and receives messages via the QUIC component, with
-  QUIC providing a reliable stream abstraction to TLS.
+  QUIC providing a reliable stream and record abstraction to TLS.

I'm not sure QUIC provides the record abstraction, at least not entirely, it only handles the record protection. TLS still does its own internal record framing as I understand it, but don't take my word for it.

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -269,7 +271,7 @@ At a high level, there are two main interactions between the TLS and QUIC
 components:
 
 * The TLS component sends and receives messages via the QUIC component, with
-  QUIC providing a reliable stream abstraction to TLS.
+  QUIC providing a reliable stream and record abstraction to TLS.

This is the big draft-14 change, is it not?

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -269,7 +271,7 @@ At a high level, there are two main interactions between the TLS and QUIC
 components:
 
 * The TLS component sends and receives messages via the QUIC component, with
-  QUIC providing a reliable stream abstraction to TLS.
+  QUIC providing a reliable stream and record abstraction to TLS.

Well, not sure about 14, possibly, but the big change was to remove TLS encryption layer piped through already encrypted QUIC. But as I understand it, TLS still maintains its own record structure and framing within the QUIC crypto stream. So in a sense it both is and isn't TLS records.

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The problem here is that any system that uses this capability (migrating while sending no connection ID), would be unreliable. To make it reliable, we would need to add signaling. Is this a feature you really need for QUICv1?

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Oh, I see, the idea is to rely on DISABLE_MIGRATION. That is probably OK.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

>  
-QPACK instructions occur in three locations, each of which uses a separate
-instruction space:
+There are three separate QPACK instruction spaces. Encoder instructions
+({{encoder-instructions}}) carry table updates, decoder instructions
+({{decoder-instructions}}) carry acknowledgments of table modifications and
+header processing, and header block instructions ({{header-block-instructions}})
+reference the QPACK table state.

Isn't the main purpose of header block instructions to cause header fields to be emitted?

In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

>  
-## Encoder Stream {#encoder-stream}
+<!-- s/exactly/no more than/  ? -->
+HTTP/3 endpoints contain a QPACK encoder and decoder. Each endpoint MUST
+initiate a single encoder stream and decoder stream. Receipt of a second
+instance of either stream type MUST treat it as a connection error of type

Check grammar: "An endpoint that receives a second" or "MUST be treated as"

In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -811,11 +819,13 @@ An encoder cannot infer from this instruction that any updates to the dynamic
 table have been received.
 
 
-## Request and Push Streams
+## Header Block Instructions
+
+HTTP/3 endpoints convert header lists to headers blocks and exchange them inside
+HEADERS and PUSH_PROMISE frames. Header block instructions reference the static
+table, or dynamic table in a particular state without modifying it.

Same comment as before. The primary purpose is to convey the header field values. That they reference various tables to do so is secondary.

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[ci skip] From nobody Sun Feb 10 16:01:28 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA57F12958B for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2019 16:01:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xzuyyGz30BNp for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2019 16:01:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D682C129284 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2019 16:01:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 16:01:24 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549843284; bh=FSW/tEg1WMbqY65jubPmc2PDsKYZLwI7k5O4ifGxGig=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=WldY0F3UZqyjM2UmsMXhvSZTvzIuZzxKtz0KWwUe+GtTB4quECxlrpxCN27iP8lsY bsIJZa52aN9yGPUnWqOc3ugQVgagMK+uF4kF2xGxCXbXlBeADjl6YxfCS5ZWpCnQ+C lzrNwfT3+KrSHFlZWSKkwWGtB/EsmT2OBcFSi1lk= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Specify DCID of 0-RTT packets (#2398) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c60bb53f3d5d_57bf3fa8818d45b4863235"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2019 00:01:27 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c60bb53f3d5d_57bf3fa8818d45b4863235 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The point that keeps coming up in this context (I'm sure I've typed the same response elsewhere...) is that the timescales over which connection IDs are stable is likely far less than the timescale over which attempting 0-RTT is possible. That is, you might attempt 0-RTT up to a week later, but the server cluster you hit might be in a configuration so different that the connection ID you got 5 or 6 days ago doesn't route to the same node. That said, for those server configurations that are more stable, this isn't a terrible idea. If this were discretionary, say as an extension, then it might be useful for ensuring that 0-RTT attempts are routed to the right destination. But anything that does this sort of targeting could also create a nice targeted DoS vector. Connect to the same server multiple times over the course of a week. Then, when it's go time, send that server 0-RTT using all the collected connection IDs that route directly to it. Marking v2, not editorial. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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The point that keeps coming up in this context (I'm sure I've typed th= e same response elsewhere...) is that the timescales over which connectio= n IDs are stable is likely far less than the timescale over which attempt= ing 0-RTT is possible. That is, you might attempt 0-RTT up to a week lat= er, but the server cluster you hit might be in a configuration so differe= nt that the connection ID you got 5 or 6 days ago doesn't route to the sa= me node.

That said, for those server configurations that are more stable, this = isn't a terrible idea. If this were discretionary, say as an extension, = then it might be useful for ensuring that 0-RTT attempts are routed to th= e right destination.

But anything that does this sort of targeting could also create a nice= targeted DoS vector. Connect to the same server multiple times over the= course of a week. Then, when it's go time, send that server 0-RTT using= all the collected connection IDs that route directly to it.

Marking v2, not editorial.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -303,15 +303,16 @@ specify a value of zero for the QUIC transport parameter
 ## Unidirectional Streams
 
 Unidirectional streams, in either direction, are used for a range of purposes.
-The purpose is indicated by a stream type, which is sent as a single byte header
-at the start of the stream. The format and structure of data that follows this
-header is determined by the stream type.
+The purpose is indicated by a stream type, which is sent as a variable-length
+integer at the start of the stream. The format and structure of data that

The word "header" appears in the figure title.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -384,11 +387,11 @@ client MUST treat this as a connection error of type HTTP_DUPLICATE_PUSH.
 
 ### Reserved Stream Types {#stream-grease}
 
-Stream types of the format `0x1f * N` are reserved to exercise the requirement
-that unknown types be ignored. These streams have no semantic meaning, and can
-be sent when application-layer padding is desired.  They MAY also be sent on
-connections where no request data is currently being transferred. Endpoints MUST
-NOT consider these streams to have any meaning upon receipt.
+Stream types of the format `0x1f * N` for non-zero values of N are reserved to

Rather than grapple with the 0 value, why not 0x1f*N+0x21 or something like that?

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1868,7 +1861,9 @@ use the full 32-bit space.  Settings ported from HTTP/2 might choose to redefine
 the format of their settings to avoid using the 62-bit encoding.
 
 Settings need to be defined separately for HTTP/2 and HTTP/3. The IDs of
-settings defined in {{!RFC7540}} have been reserved for simplicity. See
+settings defined in {{!RFC7540}} have been reserved for simplicity.  Note that
+the settings identifier space in HTTP/3 is substantially larger (62 bits versus
+16 bits), so many HTTP/3 settings have no equivalent HTTP/2 code point. See

#2443 (that feature that creates an issue is nice, but it should leave a tombstone so that people know not to reply).

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -811,11 +819,13 @@ An encoder cannot infer from this instruction that any updates to the dynamic
 table have been received.
 
 
-## Request and Push Streams
+## Header Block Instructions
+
+HTTP/3 endpoints convert header lists to headers blocks and exchange them inside
+HEADERS and PUSH_PROMISE frames. Header block instructions reference the static
+table, or dynamic table in a particular state without modifying it.

Hmm. I think I agree with your position, which is why I have some struggle with the text as it currently stand. The changes here try to carry the existing QPACK position and text where possible. I'll take editor(s) cue on whether to broaden the changes in this PR.

AFAICT the QPACK approach was to discuss instructions and how they relate to the dynamic table. In that sense, this paragraph provides a clear statement that these instructions do not mutate.

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@LPardue commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

>  
-## Encoder Stream {#encoder-stream}
+<!-- s/exactly/no more than/  ? -->
+HTTP/3 endpoints contain a QPACK encoder and decoder. Each endpoint MUST
+initiate a single encoder stream and decoder stream. Receipt of a second
+instance of either stream type MUST treat it as a connection error of type

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The format and structure of data that follows this -header is determined by the stream type. +The purpose is indicated by a stream type, which is sent as a variable-length +integer at the start of the stream. The format and structure of data that "this header" is now "this integer" on line 308 -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2437#discussion_r255364310 ----==_mimepart_5c60be03ea24f_74e83f9a1d0d45c0211455 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -303,15 +303,16 @@ specify a value of zero for the QUIC transport parameter
 ## Unidirectional Streams
 
 Unidirectional streams, in either direction, are used for a range of purposes.
-The purpose is indicated by a stream type, which is sent as a single byte header
-at the start of the stream. The format and structure of data that follows this
-header is determined by the stream type.
+The purpose is indicated by a stream type, which is sent as a variable-length
+integer at the start of the stream. The format and structure of data that

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[ci skip] From nobody Sun Feb 10 16:15:54 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 952121295D8 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2019 16:15:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id macZHHcILjgM for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2019 16:15:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D0DAF129619 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2019 16:15:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 16:15:49 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549844149; bh=IoX11Kk0QXR4ileEMlFUD8T0SM7DbiQq47QIc0thEPU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=n/XzMmTcNTmac/GhhDnqbE7l3fr2IzFR09LaA4WTLBiQht+Q6gLeRqp6fIGUpCjEu DQ7iY5shWy9lwvV6kIZZPY/mpYJCPWOLeVM+OjPnly9doMdZ1lZHGS6wH+29TM59Tn ROk6wOPgn0UAfx+T1R2rc8foUY0M5N+7ww/Kf9pA= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Key Diversity (#2175) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c60beb5b5e66_c023ffb6ccd45b820642cc"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2019 00:15:53 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c60beb5b5e66_c023ffb6ccd45b820642cc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The 0-RTT text was written out of an abundance of caution. If: 1. A server won't accept 0-RTT without successfully processing the ClientHello. 2. A QUIC server won't successfully process a ClientHello and accept if the quic_transport_parameters extension is absent. 3. A TLS over TCP server might successfully process a ClientHello and accept 0-RTT if the quic_transport_parameters extension is present. You get into a situation where the separation we provide for keys and the change in record header format is all that prevents QUIC 0-RTT from being played out as TLS/TCP 0-RTT. I mean, that seems like plenty, it just depends on how much spare paranoia you have. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2175#issuecomment-462195226 ----==_mimepart_5c60beb5b5e66_c023ffb6ccd45b820642cc Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The 0-RTT text was written out of an abundance of caution. If:

  1. A server won't accept 0-RTT without successfully processing the Clien= tHello.
  2. A QUIC server won't successfully process a ClientHello and accept if = the quic_transport_parameters extension is absent.
  3. A TLS over TCP server might successfully process a ClientHello and ac= cept 0-RTT if the quic_transport_parameters extension is present.

You get into a situation where the separation we provide for keys and = the change in record header format is all that prevents QUIC 0-RTT from b= eing played out as TLS/TCP 0-RTT. I mean, that seems like plenty, it jus= t depends on how much spare paranoia you have.

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This includes the suggestion from @martinduke to remove the 0-RTT text. Plus some text explaining the choice of label.

Closes #2175.

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@martinthomson approved this pull request.

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The separation of CRYPTO into different spaces doesn't really result in a record-like abstraction. > 1-RTT ---------------> Handshake Received Rekey rx to 1-RTT keys - Get Handshake This bit (and the next) need to remain for NewSessionTicket. Do you think that it would help to identify which TLS messages are being sent and received here? > @@ -216,10 +216,12 @@ Note that this omits the EndOfEarlyData message, which is not used in QUIC (see Data is protected using a number of encryption levels: -- Plaintext -- Early Data (0-RTT) Keys -- Handshake Keys -- Application Data (1-RTT) Keys +- Initial Keys can be derived by any observer, and so they do not + provide cryptographic protection or authentication. +- Early Data (0-RTT) Keys. These keys are not forward-secure and must protect + only idempotent data. +- Handshake Keys do not authenticate either endpoint. +- Application Data (1-RTT) Keys provide full authentication and encryption. I tend to agree with @mikkelfj here. 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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -269,7 +271,7 @@ At a high level, there are two main interactions between the TLS and QUIC
 components:
 
 * The TLS component sends and receives messages via the QUIC component, with
-  QUIC providing a reliable stream abstraction to TLS.
+  QUIC providing a reliable stream and record abstraction to TLS.

The separation of CRYPTO into different spaces doesn't really result in a record-like abstraction.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>                       1-RTT --------------->
                                               Handshake Received
                                           Rekey rx to 1-RTT keys
-                                                   Get Handshake

This bit (and the next) need to remain for NewSessionTicket.

Do you think that it would help to identify which TLS messages are being sent and received here?

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -216,10 +216,12 @@ Note that this omits the EndOfEarlyData message, which is not used in QUIC (see
 
 Data is protected using a number of encryption levels:
 
-- Plaintext
-- Early Data (0-RTT) Keys
-- Handshake Keys
-- Application Data (1-RTT) Keys
+- Initial Keys can be derived by any observer, and so they do not
+  provide cryptographic protection or authentication.
+- Early Data (0-RTT) Keys. These keys are not forward-secure and must protect
+  only idempotent data.
+- Handshake Keys do not authenticate either endpoint.
+- Application Data (1-RTT) Keys provide full authentication and encryption.

I tend to agree with @mikkelfj here. The short names are easier to get at without the extra text.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -811,11 +819,13 @@ An encoder cannot infer from this instruction that any updates to the dynamic
 table have been received.
 
 
-## Request and Push Streams
+## Header Block Instructions
+
+HTTP/3 endpoints convert header lists to headers blocks and exchange them inside
+HEADERS and PUSH_PROMISE frames. Header block instructions reference the static
+table, or dynamic table in a particular state without modifying it.

I'm OK with that aspect of this. However, I would first say what these are for, then explain that they don't refer to the tables, but don't modify them.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -963,6 +963,9 @@ followed by the `S` bit indicating whether the reference is into the static
 field is represented as an integer with a 6-bit prefix (see Section 5.1 of
 [RFC7541]).
 
+If the entry in the static or dynamic table does not provide any header field
+value (as opposed to a name), a zero-length string MUST be used.
+

I think that it's easiest to say that entries in the static table all have a value, but that some values are empty. This text seems to confer some sort of special status on "absent" values.

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@janaiyengar, this is annoyingly close to done. Would you mind?

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[ci skip] From nobody Sun Feb 10 17:18:50 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47BFA130E57 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2019 17:18:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id v9-icmW1Mlo5 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2019 17:18:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 764CB12F18C for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2019 17:18:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 17:18:46 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549847926; bh=N5YckE99i4jq/FFfIRBODtfDWEnheIrWUbVUGDEkzY0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=WKcsPxrHsHQhnKfzYhpBkRMOFBNEpD7JvuefhRXYimPqrZIxBtdtEhUqOVrH6zzZd vffxnYnrtM9fUZaEtDiKQTPwJVIoz4ucVjmmnq4ZeijKF6LXucKCh6nRLQZ0xDAEy2 rABQDpDHx9knW3jDIf1CpxcjLBN1jCPTTn/7IVu0= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] New connection IDs are mandatory for intentional migration (#2414) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c60cd765f558_6c643fbfcfed45bc7678a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2019 01:18:49 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c60cd765f558_6c643fbfcfed45bc7678a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson commented on this pull request. > @@ -2089,15 +2091,19 @@ different local addresses, as discussed in {{connection-id}}. For this to be effective endpoints need to ensure that connections IDs they provide cannot be linked by any other entity. -This eliminates the use of the connection ID for linking activity from -the same connection on different networks. Header protection ensures -that packet numbers cannot be used to correlate activity. This does not prevent +Endpoints MAY move to a new connection ID at any time. + +An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID if it initiates connection migration, +unless the peer has selected a zero-length connection ID. Using a new Yep, trimmed it down. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2414#discussion_r255363486 ----==_mimepart_5c60cd765f558_6c643fbfcfed45bc7678a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2089,15 +2091,19 @@ different local addresses, as discussed in {{connection-id}}.  For this to be
 effective endpoints need to ensure that connections IDs they provide cannot be
 linked by any other entity.
 
-This eliminates the use of the connection ID for linking activity from
-the same connection on different networks.  Header protection ensures
-that packet numbers cannot be used to correlate activity.  This does not prevent
+Endpoints MAY move to a new connection ID at any time.
+
+An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID if it initiates connection migration,
+unless the peer has selected a zero-length connection ID.  Using a new

Yep, trimmed it down.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3274,6 +3275,22 @@ The considerations for processing ICMP messages in the previous section also
 apply if these messages are used by DPLPMTUD.
 
 
+### PMTU Probes Containing Source Connection ID {#pmtu-probes-src-cid}
+
+Endpoints that rely on the destination connection ID for routing QUIC packets
+are likely to require that connection ID included in PMTU probe packets in order
+to route resulting ICMP messages ({{icmp-pmtud}}) back to the correct endpoints.
+
+Only long header packets ({{long-header}}) contain source connection IDs, but
+long header packets will not be acknowledged once the connection has been

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3274,6 +3275,22 @@ The considerations for processing ICMP messages in the previous section also
 apply if these messages are used by DPLPMTUD.
 
 
+### PMTU Probes Containing Source Connection ID {#pmtu-probes-src-cid}
+
+Endpoints that rely on the destination connection ID for routing QUIC packets
+are likely to require that connection ID included in PMTU probe packets in order
+to route resulting ICMP messages ({{icmp-pmtud}}) back to the correct endpoints.
+
+Only long header packets ({{long-header}}) contain source connection IDs, but
+long header packets will not be acknowledged once the connection has been
+established.  One way to construct a PMTU probe is to coalesce (see
+{{packet-coalesce}}) a Handshake packet ({{packet-handshake}}) with a short
+header packet in a single UDP datagram.  If the UDP datagram reaches the
+endpoint, the short header packet will be acknowledged.  If the UDP datagram

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3274,6 +3275,22 @@ The considerations for processing ICMP messages in the previous section also
 apply if these messages are used by DPLPMTUD.
 
 
+### PMTU Probes Containing Source Connection ID {#pmtu-probes-src-cid}
+
+Endpoints that rely on the destination connection ID for routing QUIC packets
+are likely to require that connection ID included in PMTU probe packets in order
+to route resulting ICMP messages ({{icmp-pmtud}}) back to the correct endpoints.
+
+Only long header packets ({{long-header}}) contain source connection IDs, but
+long header packets will not be acknowledged once the connection has been
+established.  One way to construct a PMTU probe is to coalesce (see
+{{packet-coalesce}}) a Handshake packet ({{packet-handshake}}) with a short
+header packet in a single UDP datagram.  If the UDP datagram reaches the
+endpoint, the short header packet will be acknowledged.  If the UDP datagram
+elicits an ICMP message, that message may contain the source connection ID

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=0D =0D = ----==_mimepart_5c60df15b915c_46d73fc7482d45c0143872d-- From nobody Sun Feb 10 19:08:11 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33774130F16 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2019 19:08:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Mq9xkV_KCTCI for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2019 19:08:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B52BC130EE6 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2019 19:08:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 19:08:06 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549854486; bh=yqLlYY0VF6b/QPPsIaccog8pDm++z1H/He6Y8dQvwbc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=hOzcgzZudkmxL+mPqnxbTOfn01PpfX7Qx1K1lykpEApIt7Cg0ixpyPjZzxdqci7+q ao1yC7baRZsAufwq0q4cMnoBiThVZfwVMw5tKxhICOrBRYreKj7Y6cAQDf+/n6LPBW TPwu/jA3y0OsjTydbIFCZPPRdTV38+6AjEaP2sjo= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Proposal to make Version Negotiation more like Retry to punt VN to QUICv2 (#2313) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c60e7165f43d_c183ffb6ccd45b820425c7"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2019 03:08:10 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c60e7165f43d_c183ffb6ccd45b820425c7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson requested changes on this pull request. This needs an addition to the security considerations explaining that version downgrade protection is not provided. While you might just excise the text and say that this is obvious, having downgrade protection is an expectation of a secure protocol. That this does not provide that is - as we believe - acceptable so long as this is the only version in existence, or the worst version in existence, but it is nonetheless a possible surprise. > @@ -1143,40 +1125,30 @@ expectation that it will eventually receive an Initial packet. ## Handling Version Negotiation Packets {#handle-vn} -When the client receives a Version Negotiation packet, it first checks that the -Destination and Source Connection ID fields match the Source and Destination -Connection ID fields in a packet that the client sent. If this check fails, the -packet MUST be discarded. +How a client reacts to receiving a Version Negotiation packet is left as future +work defined by future versions of QUIC. Future versions of QUIC that define This isn't right. This version needs to define what to do. I recommend having clients abandon a connection attempt in the absence of better advice. > -A client MUST NOT change the version it uses unless it is in response to a -Version Negotiation packet from the server. Once a client receives a packet -from the server which is not a Version Negotiation packet, it MUST discard other -Version Negotiation packets on the same connection. Similarly, a client MUST -ignore a Version Negotiation packet if it has already received and acted on a -Version Negotiation packet. +When a draft implementation receives a Version Negotiation packet, it MAY use +it to attempt a new connection with one of the supported versions. ```suggestion it to attempt a new connection with one of the versions listed in the packet. ``` > @@ -4010,14 +3903,6 @@ language from Section 3 of {{!TLS13=RFC8446}}. } TransportParameter; struct { - select (Handshake.msg_type) { - case client_hello: - QuicVersion initial_version; You missed the definition of QuicVersion at the top of this block. > @@ -4010,14 +3903,6 @@ language from Section 3 of {{!TLS13=RFC8446}}. } TransportParameter; struct { - select (Handshake.msg_type) { - case client_hello: - QuicVersion initial_version; - - case encrypted_extensions: - QuicVersion negotiated_version; - QuicVersion supported_versions<4..2^8-4>; - }; TransportParameter parameters<0..2^16-1>; } TransportParameters; This can now be a straight typedef: `TransportParameter TransportParameters<0..2^16-1>;` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>                       1-RTT --------------->
                                               Handshake Received
                                           Rekey rx to 1-RTT keys
-                                                   Get Handshake

I would have said no, except for the bit about the NST. I might file another PR about that. The kind of ugly thing about this diagram is rekeying the rx from 0RTT to Handshake. There's no actual trigger for this; in practice we're actually keeping both keys, of course.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -216,10 +216,12 @@ Note that this omits the EndOfEarlyData message, which is not used in QUIC (see
 
 Data is protected using a number of encryption levels:
 
-- Plaintext
-- Early Data (0-RTT) Keys
-- Handshake Keys
-- Application Data (1-RTT) Keys
+- Initial Keys can be derived by any observer, and so they do not
+  provide cryptographic protection or authentication.
+- Early Data (0-RTT) Keys. These keys are not forward-secure and must protect
+  only idempotent data.
+- Handshake Keys do not authenticate either endpoint.
+- Application Data (1-RTT) Keys provide full authentication and encryption.

OK, this is going away, except for s/Plaintext/Initial

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -269,7 +271,7 @@ At a high level, there are two main interactions between the TLS and QUIC
 components:
 
 * The TLS component sends and receives messages via the QUIC component, with
-  QUIC providing a reliable stream abstraction to TLS.
+  QUIC providing a reliable stream and record abstraction to TLS.

It's not the separate spaces, it's the crypto frame itself. We're stripping out the TLS record layer and replacing it with the frame. I'm not sure how you can compare the figures at the start of Sections 2 and 3 and come to a different conclusion.

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -1368,21 +1368,20 @@ In using TLS, the central key schedule of TLS is used.  As a result of the TLS
 handshake messages being integrated into the calculation of secrets, the
 inclusion of the QUIC transport parameters extension ensures that handshake and
 1-RTT keys are not the same as those that might be produced by a server running

I believe the client_early_traffic_secret hashes the ClientHello, and therefore should be included.

"handshake, 0-RTT, and 1-RTT keys"

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -1368,21 +1368,20 @@ In using TLS, the central key schedule of TLS is used.  As a result of the TLS
 handshake messages being integrated into the calculation of secrets, the
 inclusion of the QUIC transport parameters extension ensures that handshake and
 1-RTT keys are not the same as those that might be produced by a server running

too late, I read your comment in #2175 and withdraw this comment. Ship it!

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----==_mimepart_5c6104d63c22c_38783f9a1d0d45c0552138-- From nobody Sun Feb 10 21:55:04 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11D18128CB7 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2019 21:55:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WAsvPygz_IEk for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2019 21:55:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 481FA12894E for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2019 21:55:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 21:54:58 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549864498; bh=QwcPAyropFD21khJohRl6zYDkoGsqnktZa0LVXc7olg=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=YRHB8FsJWaIgbLJlvNnHQc221NMLsUb0ZiwWgZGWv9umYcR6apgh4TWIPi/DI35r1 e+KO/l8HH3Q7/6ggMoU9TA0hYxughcyAQUJkY0bee0s6ZLkWbBBBFaZCufBgluVgjl qPVlJJJDm52eyvNmcK6WY51G6cFAqwp6mBXGflRM= From: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] 4bf246: quic-tls nits Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2019 05:55:02 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: 4bf24681eee5235af5311fc939126195b16f6e40 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4bf24681eee5235af5311fc939126195b16f6e40 Author: martinduke Date: 2019-02-08 (Fri, 08 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- quic-tls nits I suspect these are uncontroversial. 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@martinthomson yes, that is a balance to strike, but a conservative limit of 1-2 per day ought to be reasonable unless I'm missing something. Or, we should entirely avoid rotation non-migration as a general principle.

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It's fine to move to v2 on the larger issue, but the text is still unclear in transport v1.

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  • remove unused variable largest_sent_packet

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1-2 connection IDs per day is probably totally inadequate for someone who is mobile. That's a more realistic number for key rotations. I can imagine 1 every 15 minutes on average being necessary.

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For #2398 and @mikkelfj.

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----==_mimepart_5c6131f8f08ba_13903fd895ad45b4139398d-- From nobody Mon Feb 11 00:27:54 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21114128BCC for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2019 00:27:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mkMNfYDGYYgr for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2019 00:27:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-16.smtp.github.com (out-16.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.199]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B30A0131024 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2019 00:27:51 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2019 00:27:50 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549873671; bh=UkpnRSIZPoiTd5Y9jHuHAsWEjPZDGJ+MfAiFvi95Vd4=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=YPhRB9g/dKWMHIKVVqG+kXK6i5CkqBpLVOgVdA+OAqgznJCVZ6PSTcRAml3Yq1gTR cDL2vl8tXtHZhyunIJAMM5u5Pu282fXXk0Kni+hzL8p+u8ghLAvpPrwMe9n18xjJRC VqXpkNWwQde5SE/Jr675OtzelYzKAJwbTfxixWos= From: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] 7fbacf: Script updating gh-pages from 1f2a08e8. 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Oops, I just meant to approve that. Need more sleep. Sorry @ianswett, @janaiyengar; back out if you think this is a bad idea.

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[ci skip] From nobody Mon Feb 11 03:26:09 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3860130E8C for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2019 03:26:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id I8iJpvQjKEoX for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2019 03:26:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1E514130E8A for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2019 03:26:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2019 03:26:05 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549884365; bh=eedLwCZ1NQ5CA+uSSmULJFwigmp+S++HKvmyUdeTH9A=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=q6fws77ihfy+sRBGwJXxxncq9qpnGdqDahlUj9ekBmHPsxW3GAjGCBjxwbNXfloBM pd5QEm3vtrpYC73BjWydA28OdgEfu7Dppcl2P0NaLTPSU2JpbFmKJT8LKgvfIALNq1 V8wvPqLXSThWKM/gq7TdUl+Kj+8QdApbk3IiADg0= From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] loss recovery of crypto packets is less aggressive, not more aggressive (#2435) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c615bcda845_68e93fa020ad45bc724f"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2019 11:26:08 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c615bcda845_68e93fa020ad45bc724f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Why do we need a second timer? Wouldn't it be sufficient to have another `loss_time` variable for crypto packets? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2435#issuecomment-462295160 ----==_mimepart_5c615bcda845_68e93fa020ad45bc724f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Why do we need a second timer? Wouldn't it be sufficient to have another loss_time variable for crypto packets?

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@ghedo commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -963,6 +963,9 @@ followed by the `S` bit indicating whether the reference is into the static
 field is represented as an integer with a 6-bit prefix (see Section 5.1 of
 [RFC7541]).
 
+If the entry in the static or dynamic table does not provide any header field
+value (as opposed to a name), a zero-length string MUST be used.
+

@martinthomson I reworded that part and moved it to the "Static Table" section.

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@dtikhonov I can add something like that, but TBH I don't think that the HPACK wording would have helped me, so I'd rather keep my clarification (that says "ignore value") as well.

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As a general piece of advice, I would not advise any endpoint(ie: server) receiving multiple connections on a given IP/port use 0 byte CIDs.

And if a 'server' did want to do that, it should disable migration explicitly.

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The "issues list" - I think you mean the email list here? - is not ope= n for discussion. Only the people who generate repo activity have posting= rights, so their notifications make it to the list. We should say that t= hey can be discussed "on the GitHub web page of the for the respective is= sue" or something like that.

And maybe also remind people to not discuss on PRs.

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that was for non-migration, if rotation is needed at all

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1355,6 +1355,9 @@ long enough to fulfill the minimum size for every QUIC version it supports.
 The client populates the Source Connection ID field with a value of its choosing
 and sets the SCIL field to match.
 
+The same Destination and Source Connection ID values are used for any 0-RTT
+packets the client sends.
+

This could be read as if the ID is the same in both directions.

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@ianswett Um, isn't it normal for servers (QUIC or otherwise) to listen on IP/port. Do you mean multiple connections from same client IP/port?

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I think it's ok to remove this. It might have been used for early retransmit before, but now that's part of time threshold loss detection.

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I think the paragraph starting with "The final version used for a connection..." is no longer necessary.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1355,6 +1355,9 @@ long enough to fulfill the minimum size for every QUIC version it supports.
 The client populates the Source Connection ID field with a value of its choosing
 and sets the SCIL field to match.
 
+The same Destination and Source Connection ID values are used for any 0-RTT
+packets the client sends.
+

Agreed, this is not completely clear. How about: "The first flight of 0-RTT packets use the same Destination and Source Connection ID values as the client's first Initial."?

Also, on 1356, "sets the SCIL field to match." is not very clear. I'd either drop the clause or say "and sets the SCIL field to indicate the length."

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If servers want to terminate multiple connections on an IP/port(as is ty= pical), they either should use CID lengths > 0 OR disable connection mig= ration.

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I don't believe we need a second timer, and in implementation, I don't= think it's necessary.

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Fixes #2435

I failed to fully think this through when #2417 landed, but the intent was always that time threshold loss detection apply to Initial and Handshake packet number spaces, as well as ApplicationData.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2451

Commit Summary

  • Add a loss_time per packet number space

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[ci skip] From nobody Mon Feb 11 07:33:48 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28405130EDE for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2019 07:33:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id idY2lL0S2cZK for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2019 07:33:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3C0A71271FF for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2019 07:33:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2019 07:33:43 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549899223; bh=psR7LOBJGBSE/Z8sSWIKuGT7DETq6nQHMOnCvx6C97w=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=LDE2DRRtV2c+Ju+V5ns315YXmr9MF1d8m0yVyCzVCEwxqk7Ky99CZWKfOn8O0chB9 b0syLdQnf69joV1zdCFiNPByFQkOFDRzgokNmPxAWutkdVG387/VkBhnIPuUpp/HEm k5tbZUojKKCaeKZmiwljaTTKhM5KxM0A9x8VwDOU= From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] loss recovery of crypto packets is less aggressive, not more aggressive (#2435) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c6195d72697c_ede3febf3ad45c03232a9"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2019 15:33:46 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c6195d72697c_ede3febf3ad45c03232a9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just tried to sketch the algorithm using a packet-number-space dependent `loss_time`, i.e. `loss_time[kPacketNumberSpace]`. In `SetLossDetectionTimer()`, you'd then use the smallest (non-zero) `loss_time` for your timer, and only arm the crypto retransmission timeout if all 3 `loss_time`s are 0. This seems to work fine, and is generally (a lot) more aggressive than what we currently have, however, there's one corner case where it's less aggressive. Consider the following sequence of packets being sent: ``` t=1: Initial 1 t=2: Initial 2 t=3: Handshake 1 ``` Now we receive an ACK for Initial 2, and arm the early retransmit timer at `t=1+1.125x`, where `x` is the RTT. When this timer fires, we retransmit Initial 1 as Initial 3. The crypto retransmission timeout will now be set this time plus 2 RTT, i.e. `t=1+3.125x`. This is then the first time we retransmit Handshake 1. Without the early retransmit timer, we would have retransmitted Handshake 1 2 RTTs after sending it, i.e. at `t=3+2x`, which for all realistic RTTs would be earlier. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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I just tried to sketch the algorithm using a packet-number-space depen= dent loss_time, i.e. loss_time[kPacketNumberSpace]. In SetLossDetectionTimer(), you'd then use the smallest= (non-zero) loss_time for your timer, and only arm the crypt= o retransmission timeout if all 3 loss_times are 0.
This seems to work fine, and is generally (a lot) more aggressive than wh= at we currently have, however, there's one corner case where it's less ag= gressive. Consider the following sequence of packets being sent:

t=3D1: Initial 1
t=3D2: Initial 2
t=3D3: Handshake 1

Now we receive an ACK for Initial 2, and arm the early retransmit time= r at t=3D1+1.125x, where x is the RTT. When thi= s timer fires, we retransmit Initial 1 as Initial 3. The crypto retransmi= ssion timeout will now be set this time plus 2 RTT, i.e. t=3D1+3.12= 5x. This is then the first time we retransmit Handshake 1.
Without the early retransmit timer, we would have retransmitted Handshake= 1 2 RTTs after sending it, i.e. at t=3D3+2x, which for all = realistic RTTs would be earlier.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +  rttvar = 0
+  max_ack_delay = 0
+  kPersistentCongestionThreshold = 2
+
+If an eck-eliciting packet is sent at time = 0, the following scenario would
+illustrate persistent congestion:
+
+  t=0 | Send Pkt #1 (App Data)
+  t=1 | Send Pkt #2 (PTO 1)
+  t=3 | Send Pkt #3 (PTO 2)
+  t=7 | Send Pkt #4 (PTO 3)
+  t=8 | Recv ACK of Pkt #4
+
+The first three packets are determined to be lost when the ACK of packet 4 is
+received at t=8.  The congestion period is calculated as the time between the
+oldest and newest lost packets: (3 - 0) = 3.  The duration for persistent

The text says all in-flight packets meaning a contiguous block of sent packets. The example doesn't call out that check for a contiguous block explicitly, but it would have to be made. So, in that case if packets 2 and 4 were acknowledged you wouldn't have that contiguous block of time that meets the requirements.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +  max_ack_delay = 0
+  kPersistentCongestionThreshold = 2
+
+If an eck-eliciting packet is sent at time = 0, the following scenario would
+illustrate persistent congestion:
+
+  t=0 | Send Pkt #1 (App Data)
+  t=1 | Send Pkt #2 (PTO 1)
+  t=3 | Send Pkt #3 (PTO 2)
+  t=7 | Send Pkt #4 (PTO 3)
+  t=8 | Recv ACK of Pkt #4
+
+The first three packets are determined to be lost when the ACK of packet 4 is
+received at t=8.  The congestion period is calculated as the time between the
+oldest and newest lost packets: (3 - 0) = 3.  The duration for persistent
+congestion is equal to: (1 * ((2 ^ 2) - 1)) = 3.  Because the threshold was

We pretty clearly state the equation for calculating the persistent congestion window above and state that kPersistentCongestionThreshold is assumed to be 2 for this example. I don't really want to make this section any more verbose.

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This is basically exactly what I just worked out on paper an hour ago, before running into #2435 (comment).

I believe you forgot to change OnLossDetectionTimeout() to the following:

OnLossDetectionTimeout():
  min_loss_time = min_non_zero(loss_time[Initial], loss_time[Handshake], loss_time[ApplicationData])
  if (min_loss_time != 0):
    // Time threshold loss Detection
    DetectLostPackets(packet number space with the min_loss_time)
  else if (crypto packets are in flight):
    // Crypto retransmission timeout.
    RetransmitUnackedCryptoData()
    crypto_count++
  else:
    // PTO
    SendOneOrTwoPackets()
    pto_count++

  SetLossDetectionTimer()

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1029,6 +1028,12 @@ SetLossDetectionTimer():
     loss_detection_timer.cancel()
     return
 
+  for (loss_time : loss_times) {

I don't think this guarantees that you're picking the earliest timer. We need something like

min_loss_time = min_non_zero(loss_time[Initial], loss_time[Handshake], loss_time[ApplicationData])
if (min_loss_time != 0):
    loss_detection_timer.update(min_loss_time)
    return

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1117,11 +1115,11 @@ DetectLostPackets(pn_space):
       if (unacked.in_flight):
         lost_packets.insert(unacked)
     else if (pn_space == ApplicationData):

Just else, no else if.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -873,10 +873,9 @@ max_ack_delay:
   received ACK frame may be larger due to late timers, reordering,
   or lost ACKs.
 
-loss_time:
-: The time at which the next packet will be considered lost based on
-  exceeding the reordering window in time. Only applies to the ApplicationData
-  packet number space.
+loss_times[kPacketNumberSpace]:

Nit: loss_time would be more consistent, since we also use largest_acked_packet[kPacketNumberSpace], not largest_acked_packets[kPacketNumberSpace].

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1067,14 +1066,18 @@ Pseudocode for OnLossDetectionTimeout follows:
 
 ~~~
 OnLossDetectionTimeout():
-  if (crypto packets are in flight):
+  packets_lost = false
+  for pn_space in [ Initial, Handshake, ApplicatonData ]:
+    if (loss_times[pn_space] != 0):
+      // Time threshold loss Detection
+      DetectLostPackets(pn_space)

It seems a bit wasteful to run this for every packet number space that has a non-zero loss_time, since we'll only detect lost packets in the space that has the earliest loss_time.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1067,14 +1066,18 @@ Pseudocode for OnLossDetectionTimeout follows:
 
 ~~~
 OnLossDetectionTimeout():
-  if (crypto packets are in flight):
+  packets_lost = false
+  for pn_space in [ Initial, Handshake, ApplicatonData ]:
+    if (loss_times[pn_space] != 0):
+      // Time threshold loss Detection
+      DetectLostPackets(pn_space)
+      packets_lost = true
+  // Don't retransmit all crypto data if a packet was just lost.
+  if (!packets_lost &&

If packets_lost = true, we'd send PTO packets. I don't think this is the intention. We should return early in that case.

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Good point, that is a case when the new approach is slightly less aggres= sive.

If we wanted to favor aggressiveness during the handshake, we could arm = the crypto timer based on the left edge(earliest unacked ack-eliciting pack= et) rather than the right(latest unacked). That's a larger change than I'd= like to make in this CL/issue, though.

I believe the example you outlined above is fairly unlikely, because for= most connections, if multiple initials are sent, they're likely to be re-t= ransmissions, not new data. In that case, when Initial 2 is acked, Initial= 1 is immediately lost and Handshake 1 is still the only outstanding ack-el= iciting packet. That being said, I can probably construct other situations= that are somewhat similar.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1067,14 +1066,18 @@ Pseudocode for OnLossDetectionTimeout follows:
 
 ~~~
 OnLossDetectionTimeout():
-  if (crypto packets are in flight):
+  packets_lost = false
+  for pn_space in [ Initial, Handshake, ApplicatonData ]:
+    if (loss_times[pn_space] != 0):
+      // Time threshold loss Detection
+      DetectLostPackets(pn_space)
+      packets_lost = true
+  // Don't retransmit all crypto data if a packet was just lost.
+  if (!packets_lost &&

I added GetEarliestLossTime, which I think makes this more efficient and correct.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1029,6 +1028,12 @@ SetLossDetectionTimer():
     loss_detection_timer.cancel()
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+  for (loss_time : loss_times) {

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We'll be bulk-marking everything closed as has-consensus once we have WG consensus on the -18 drafts, i.e. after the e-mail asking for objections.

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The new organization puts this paragraph under the "Early-Stage Process," when I believe it's intended to apply to the regular process.

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It's untrue that any stream could be created by any endpoint.

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Suggestions > @@ -135,6 +135,12 @@ Crypto Packets: : Packets containing CRYPTO data sent in Initial or Handshake packets. +Out-of-order Packets: + +: Packets that do not increase the largest received packet number for its +packet number space by exactly one. Packets usually arrive out of order ```suggestion packet number space by exactly one. Packets arrive out of order ``` > @@ -135,6 +135,12 @@ Crypto Packets: : Packets containing CRYPTO data sent in Initial or Handshake packets. +Out-of-order Packets: + +: Packets that do not increase the largest received packet number for its +packet number space by exactly one. Packets usually arrive out of order +because earlier packets are lost or delayed. ```suggestion when earlier packets are lost or delayed. ``` > @@ -244,11 +250,11 @@ ack-eliciting packet. QUIC recovery algorithms do not assume the peer sends an ACK immediately when receiving a second ack-eliciting packet. In order to accelerate loss recovery and reduce timeouts, the receiver SHOULD -send an immediate ACK when it receives a new packet which is not one greater -than the largest received packet number. A receiver MAY send immediate ACKs -for the next few ack-eliciting packets that are received, but SHOULD NOT -send an immediate ACK for more than 1/8 RTT after receiving an out-of-order -packet. +send immediate ACKs for an interval after it receives an out-of-order packet. The intent of the text is you SHOULD send one immediate ACK, but you may send more than one immediate ACK. This new text changes that to you SHOULD send an immediate ACK for an interval, and I don't want to make that a SHOULD, only a MAY. > @@ -244,11 +250,11 @@ ack-eliciting packet. QUIC recovery algorithms do not assume the peer sends an ACK immediately when receiving a second ack-eliciting packet. In order to accelerate loss recovery and reduce timeouts, the receiver SHOULD -send an immediate ACK when it receives a new packet which is not one greater -than the largest received packet number. A receiver MAY send immediate ACKs -for the next few ack-eliciting packets that are received, but SHOULD NOT -send an immediate ACK for more than 1/8 RTT after receiving an out-of-order -packet. +send immediate ACKs for an interval after it receives an out-of-order packet. +This interval SHOULD NOT exceed 1/8 RTT unless more out-of-order packets arrive +during the interval. Therefore, if out-of-order packets consistently arrive Suggestion on an alternate clarification to Martin's question: "If every packet arrives out-of-order, then an immediate ACK will be sent for every received packet." -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +  rttvar = 0
+  max_ack_delay = 0
+  kPersistentCongestionThreshold = 2
+
+If an eck-eliciting packet is sent at time = 0, the following scenario would
+illustrate persistent congestion:
+
+  t=0 | Send Pkt #1 (App Data)
+  t=1 | Send Pkt #2 (PTO 1)
+  t=3 | Send Pkt #3 (PTO 2)
+  t=7 | Send Pkt #4 (PTO 3)
+  t=8 | Recv ACK of Pkt #4
+
+The first three packets are determined to be lost when the ACK of packet 4 is
+received at t=8.  The congestion period is calculated as the time between the
+oldest and newest lost packets: (3 - 0) = 3.  The duration for persistent

I think this example works, but the pseudocode below is not quite right for this reason. The easiest way to fix it would be to assume no packet number gaps and check if the number of packets lost is equal to largest - smallest + 1.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +  rttvar = 0
+  max_ack_delay = 0
+  kPersistentCongestionThreshold = 2
+
+If an eck-eliciting packet is sent at time = 0, the following scenario would
+illustrate persistent congestion:
+
+  t=0 | Send Pkt #1 (App Data)
+  t=1 | Send Pkt #2 (PTO 1)
+  t=3 | Send Pkt #3 (PTO 2)
+  t=7 | Send Pkt #4 (PTO 3)
+  t=8 | Recv ACK of Pkt #4
+
+The first three packets are determined to be lost when the ACK of packet 4 is
+received at t=8.  The congestion period is calculated as the time between the
+oldest and newest lost packets: (3 - 0) = 3.  The duration for persistent

Do we need to really spell this out with a 100% complete pseudocode example? I can imagine a couple ways for implementations to achieve this and I don't think we need to call them all out.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -135,6 +135,12 @@ Crypto Packets:
 : Packets containing CRYPTO data sent in Initial or Handshake
   packets.
 
+Out-of-order Packets:
+
+: Packets that do not increase the largest received packet number for its
+packet number space by exactly one. Packets usually arrive out of order

The exceptions I had in mind are packet duplication and misbehaving senders.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +  rttvar = 0
+  max_ack_delay = 0
+  kPersistentCongestionThreshold = 2
+
+If an eck-eliciting packet is sent at time = 0, the following scenario would
+illustrate persistent congestion:
+
+  t=0 | Send Pkt #1 (App Data)
+  t=1 | Send Pkt #2 (PTO 1)
+  t=3 | Send Pkt #3 (PTO 2)
+  t=7 | Send Pkt #4 (PTO 3)
+  t=8 | Recv ACK of Pkt #4
+
+The first three packets are determined to be lost when the ACK of packet 4 is
+received at t=8.  The congestion period is calculated as the time between the
+oldest and newest lost packets: (3 - 0) = 3.  The duration for persistent

The text is normative and the pseudocode is an appendix. I'm ok with the pseudocode not being perfect, especially for cases that are fairly unlikely in practice.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -244,11 +250,11 @@ ack-eliciting packet. QUIC recovery algorithms do not assume the peer sends
 an ACK immediately when receiving a second ack-eliciting packet.
 
 In order to accelerate loss recovery and reduce timeouts, the receiver SHOULD
-send an immediate ACK when it receives a new packet which is not one greater
-than the largest received packet number. A receiver MAY send immediate ACKs
-for the next few ack-eliciting packets that are received, but SHOULD NOT
-send an immediate ACK for more than 1/8 RTT after receiving an out-of-order
-packet.
+send immediate ACKs for an interval after it receives an out-of-order packet.

The text allows the interval to be zero, but I agree that's weaselly. I'll clarify more.

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I'm confused about what problem you're trying to fix with the immediate ACK text. Can you clarify?

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -135,6 +135,12 @@ Crypto Packets:
 : Packets containing CRYPTO data sent in Initial or Handshake
   packets.
 
+Out-of-order Packets:
+
+: Packets that do not increase the largest received packet number for its
+packet number space by exactly one. Packets usually arrive out of order

Duplication doesn't count as out-of-order because the packet is ignored. Misbehaving senders are certainly possible, but I'm not sure how important they are to this text?

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -244,11 +250,11 @@ ack-eliciting packet. QUIC recovery algorithms do not assume the peer sends
 an ACK immediately when receiving a second ack-eliciting packet.
 
 In order to accelerate loss recovery and reduce timeouts, the receiver SHOULD
-send an immediate ACK when it receives a new packet which is not one greater
-than the largest received packet number. A receiver MAY send immediate ACKs
-for the next few ack-eliciting packets that are received, but SHOULD NOT
-send an immediate ACK for more than 1/8 RTT after receiving an out-of-order
-packet.
+send immediate ACKs for an interval after it receives an out-of-order packet.
+This interval SHOULD be between zero (immediately acking only out-of-order

I'm finding this increasingly hard to read. Can we pop the stack and you can explain what's unclear about the existing text?

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One small suggestion, but I think this LG. > @@ -2089,15 +2091,18 @@ different local addresses, as discussed in {{connection-id}}. For this to be effective endpoints need to ensure that connections IDs they provide cannot be linked by any other entity. -This eliminates the use of the connection ID for linking activity from -the same connection on different networks. Header protection ensures -that packet numbers cannot be used to correlate activity. This does not prevent -other properties of packets, such as timing and size, from being used to +Endpoints MAY move to a new connection ID at any time. Nit: move to may not be clear. How about "Endpoints MAY change the Destination Connection ID they send in short header packets at any time." assuming that statement is correct. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@ianswett approved this pull request.

One small suggestion, but I think this LG.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2089,15 +2091,18 @@ different local addresses, as discussed in {{connection-id}}.  For this to be
 effective endpoints need to ensure that connections IDs they provide cannot be
 linked by any other entity.
 
-This eliminates the use of the connection ID for linking activity from
-the same connection on different networks.  Header protection ensures
-that packet numbers cannot be used to correlate activity.  This does not prevent
-other properties of packets, such as timing and size, from being used to
+Endpoints MAY move to a new connection ID at any time.

Nit: move to may not be clear. How about "Endpoints MAY change the Destination Connection ID they send in short header packets at any time." assuming that statement is correct.

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QUIC recovery algorithms do not assume the peer sends an ACK immediately when receiving a second ack-eliciting packet. In order to accelerate loss recovery and reduce timeouts, the receiver SHOULD -send an immediate ACK when it receives a new packet which is not one greater -than the largest received packet number. A receiver MAY send immediate ACKs -for the next few ack-eliciting packets that are received, but SHOULD NOT -send an immediate ACK for more than 1/8 RTT after receiving an out-of-order -packet. +send an immediate ACK after it receives an out-of-order packet. it could send ```suggestion send an immediate ACK after it receives an out-of-order packet. It could send ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -135,6 +135,12 @@ Crypto Packets:
 : Packets containing CRYPTO data sent in Initial or Handshake
   packets.
 
+Out-of-order Packets:
+
+: Packets that do not increase the largest received packet number for its
+  packet number space by exactly one. Packets arrive out of order
+  when earlier packets are lost or delayed.

I don't know... I think it might read better with 'earlier' included. I don't think it's confusing.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2091,7 +2091,8 @@ different local addresses, as discussed in {{connection-id}}.  For this to be
 effective endpoints need to ensure that connections IDs they provide cannot be
 linked by any other entity.
 
-Endpoints MAY move to a new connection ID at any time.
+At any time, endpoints MAY change the Destination Connection ID they send to a
+value that has not been used on another path.

Much better. Can this be "has not been used previously on this path or another path."?

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Currently, the transport parameter for specifying Idle Timeout is in units of seconds. This seems to be too restrictive and not very future proof. Additionally, from an API perspective, most other timers are settable on the millisecond scale, so it creates a kind of ugly discrepancy between all the different timers settable by the app if just one of them has units of seconds.

I propose we change the units from seconds to milliseconds. The change both for implementations and spec should be minimal, and it makes things (timers) a little more consistent.

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Fixes #2453.

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  • Change Idle Timeout to Milliseconds

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This seems sensible to me both for consistency and I can imagine cases when one would want to specify a fraction(ie: 1/2 of a second).

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2091,7 +2091,8 @@ different local addresses, as discussed in {{connection-id}}.  For this to be
 effective endpoints need to ensure that connections IDs they provide cannot be
 linked by any other entity.
 
-Endpoints MAY move to a new connection ID at any time.
+At any time, endpoints MAY change the Destination Connection ID they send to a
+value that has not been used on another path.

It's OK to reuse a connection ID that has been used on the same path. Unless the goal is to avoid temporal linkability, but that's far less of a pressing issue, I think.

One thing I want to allow is alternating connection IDs, which your suggestion would prevent.

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LG, but I don't know what process this falls under. I'll let @martinthomson and @janaiyengar decide.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2091,7 +2091,8 @@ different local addresses, as discussed in {{connection-id}}.  For this to be
 effective endpoints need to ensure that connections IDs they provide cannot be
 linked by any other entity.
 
-Endpoints MAY move to a new connection ID at any time.
+At any time, endpoints MAY change the Destination Connection ID they send to a
+value that has not been used on another path.

I'm happy with this PR, but can you explain why you'd want that?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2091,7 +2091,8 @@ different local addresses, as discussed in {{connection-id}}.  For this to be
 effective endpoints need to ensure that connections IDs they provide cannot be
 linked by any other entity.
 
-Endpoints MAY move to a new connection ID at any time.
+At any time, endpoints MAY change the Destination Connection ID they send to a
+value that has not been used on another path.

I don't necessarily, but other have mentioned a desire to put multiple connection IDs on the same path. This makes one connection look like multiple.

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----==_mimepart_5c61f9bce34e_2c073fb802ed45b477272-- From nobody Mon Feb 11 14:54:43 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6034A1286E7 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2019 14:54:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8Y--cNEPGYD2 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2019 14:54:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-10.smtp.github.com (out-10.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8C60A1200D8 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2019 14:54:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2019 14:54:39 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549925679; bh=RxAZzN1XPEcCHM96ukLu/OCb0Xq5JALrc7hgA9rV7xk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ZdKTVVz+wOTubbZzNE4LJPPB1ajmh3G4rG9pwb8Ot110hsFWWHJ5S3y7rp1/wMIOy hVMpYxi4L0BIIxR29sBenYzlHMJlDrPZNDEI+Jwylydt6zso5OiIikFZPZRQ80rPU8 WcZxq6f+n6WnhK2Pi77cAc3t02viWRA+z8EhIb2E= From: Praveen Balasubramanian Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Change Idle Timeout Units of Milliseconds (#2453) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c61fd2f98577_28013feafe2d45b41142fa"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: pravb X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2019 22:54:42 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c61fd2f98577_28013feafe2d45b41142fa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Agreed. A second is an eternity for a intra-datacenter connection for example. For future proofing all time units should be at least msec IMO. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2453#issuecomment-462527998 ----==_mimepart_5c61fd2f98577_28013feafe2d45b41142fa Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Agreed. A second is an eternity for a intra-datacenter connection for example. For future proofing all time units should be at least msec IMO.

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>                       1-RTT --------------->
                                               Handshake Received
                                           Rekey rx to 1-RTT keys
-                                                   Get Handshake

Perhaps it would be more appropriate to say "Install Handshake rx keys," then? We have the separate PR forthcoming about when keys from previous levels are dropped; perhaps in this diagram we could exclusively talk about installing them.

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That's an interesting question. The Length field is version-specific.= If you include it, you can have no expectation that a peer which doesn'= t speak that version will even be able to find anything further in the da= tagram -- as far as it knows, the remainder of the datagram is that conne= ction. But that actually has a potential use.

On receipt, if the logic first attempts to chunk up the datagram and t= he subsequent packet is the correct version for the connection, then ackn= owledging that second coalesced packet implies that you support the first= packet's version.

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Perhaps "not very careful" was careful enough -- it says "such as HTTP/2," and mandates that the protocol needs a way to carry the scheme. HTTP/3 does, so we're covered. Do we think a reference to 8164 is warranted in the section about finding an HTTP/3 endpoint?

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That makes sense. Note that this text is cut-and-pasted from the current version.

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We've been doing them sporadically for all of the drafts, just not consistently.

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The editors can still merge, once has-consensus is there.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

>  
-QPACK instructions occur in three locations, each of which uses a separate
-instruction space:
+There are three separate QPACK instruction spaces. Encoder instructions
+({{encoder-instructions}}) carry table updates, decoder instructions
+({{decoder-instructions}}) carry acknowledgments of table modifications and
+header processing, and header block instructions ({{header-block-instructions}})
+compress a header list by referring to the QPACK table state.

Well, they don't really compress the header list, they are the compression output. Perhaps "reconstruct" a header list?

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -1128,7 +1141,7 @@ The entries in the following table are registered by this document.
 
 ## Stream Type Registration
 
-This document creates two new settings in the "HTTP/3 Stream Type" registry
+This document creates two new streams in the "HTTP/3 Stream Type" registry

Perhaps "types" or "entries"?

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This wording seems fine.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -1128,7 +1141,7 @@ The entries in the following table are registered by this document.
 
 ## Stream Type Registration
 
-This document creates two new settings in the "HTTP/3 Stream Type" registry
+This document creates two new streams in the "HTTP/3 Stream Type" registry

The change addressed a bug in the spec. I'm happy to use entries but would do so consistently through the document (settings, errors, stream)

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -384,11 +387,11 @@ client MUST treat this as a connection error of type HTTP_DUPLICATE_PUSH.
 
 ### Reserved Stream Types {#stream-grease}
 
-Stream types of the format `0x1f * N` are reserved to exercise the requirement
-that unknown types be ignored. These streams have no semantic meaning, and can
-be sent when application-layer padding is desired.  They MAY also be sent on
-connections where no request data is currently being transferred. Endpoints MUST
-NOT consider these streams to have any meaning upon receipt.
+Stream types of the format `0x1f * N` for non-zero values of N are reserved to

Hm, that might be easier.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

>  
-QPACK instructions occur in three locations, each of which uses a separate
-instruction space:
+There are three separate QPACK instruction spaces. Encoder instructions
+({{encoder-instructions}}) carry table updates, decoder instructions
+({{decoder-instructions}}) carry acknowledgments of table modifications and
+header processing, and header block instructions ({{header-block-instructions}})
+compress a header list by referring to the QPACK table state.

Well, an encoder view of the header block is not to reconstruct the list.

The initial text simply stated that these instructions refer to tables. Adding flavour seems to complicate the matter, unless we think spelling out verbatim is useful.

Would something like "header block instructions convey an encoded representation of a header list by referring to the QPACK table state" suffice?

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Settings ported from HTTP/2 might choose to redefine the format of their settings to avoid using the 62-bit encoding. Settings need to be defined separately for HTTP/2 and HTTP/3. The IDs of -settings defined in {{!RFC7540}} have been reserved for simplicity. See +settings defined in {{!RFC7540}} have been reserved for simplicity. Note that +the settings identifier space in HTTP/3 is substantially larger (62 bits versus +16 bits), so many HTTP/3 settings have no equivalent HTTP/2 code point. See Seconded. GitHub feedback submitted. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2437#discussion_r255758734 ----==_mimepart_5c62183ee1a11_75123fae800d45bc598666 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1868,7 +1861,9 @@ use the full 32-bit space.  Settings ported from HTTP/2 might choose to redefine
 the format of their settings to avoid using the 62-bit encoding.
 
 Settings need to be defined separately for HTTP/2 and HTTP/3. The IDs of
-settings defined in {{!RFC7540}} have been reserved for simplicity. See
+settings defined in {{!RFC7540}} have been reserved for simplicity.  Note that
+the settings identifier space in HTTP/3 is substantially larger (62 bits versus
+16 bits), so many HTTP/3 settings have no equivalent HTTP/2 code point. See

Seconded. GitHub feedback submitted.

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Commit: 3e2dbea894c2e3fe4fe4d63e9592ddf4c1e0f1bc https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3e2dbea894c2e3fe4fe4d63e9592ddf4c1e0f1bc Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2019-02-08 (Fri, 08 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- Varint explicit value Commit: 0c33013556840e9f16f3e701cbb372f68b0ab124 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0c33013556840e9f16f3e701cbb372f68b0ab124 Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2019-02-08 (Fri, 08 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- Review feedback Commit: 05b784f6985de0597a30faa611b6317d2bd56051 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/05b784f6985de0597a30faa611b6317d2bd56051 Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2019-02-08 (Fri, 08 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- Plurals Commit: c30019f681d092f3a04dee62bfed3bf868f610d2 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c30019f681d092f3a04dee62bfed3bf868f610d2 Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2019-02-08 (Fri, 08 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- More plurals Commit: 630bc71c3e54f9149ae472e00618e67da3ead32f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/630bc71c3e54f9149ae472e00618e67da3ead32f Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2019-02-11 (Mon, 11 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- Martin's suggested alternative to non-zero Commit: 0c97572ed5d3787752ca9e4ffaf1d1cbf2b5200e https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0c97572ed5d3787752ca9e4ffaf1d1cbf2b5200e Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2019-02-11 (Mon, 11 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #2437 from quicwg/http/varint-all-the-things VarInt all the HTTP things Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/3c9a17a4f06b...0c97572ed5d3 From nobody Mon Feb 11 16:52:14 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0CA3131203 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2019 16:52:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RHFRNv1HtyaP for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2019 16:52:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A26B4129284 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2019 16:52:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2019 16:52:02 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549932722; bh=5SLleMKgdiMtL5SHunLIPxFG3U4BVxtqZYNQhxlDs/k=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=wytSlREOT14fRVXMAA+3/FOn0XQX6jz8YXo7uVlb/SMNDFcSHRNP3YNGCzGVNw35X OaeTRavd+CaY4qj8gPhWrTfcWSlGJhinaWaqJT/ps5c3XaNoWOF67CooC+I2ZRER+y Ht3vwbo62L6cjSkrH5yu69o6Sz3x059UElTtXRk4= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Consider making h3 frame types varint (#2253) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c6218b2cd458_3e903fa8894d45c410860de"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 00:52:06 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c6218b2cd458_3e903fa8894d45c410860de Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Closed #2253 via #2437. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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----==_mimepart_5c6218b2cd458_3e903fa8894d45c410860de-- From nobody Mon Feb 11 16:52:24 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 366CF12941A for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2019 16:52:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LHBr73pVAuUj for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2019 16:52:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9E3AE124B0C for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2019 16:52:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2019 16:52:02 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549932722; bh=CjjD/L1U/zeBhIHuWh1Aq62xNe9a8Koqiok6X5VR7Yo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ZPYas69WIb3s9k9a6uJU4WRQjSK4I4va/BxgFRx2hLGvmNm0mnabF3+kBaSkgKFHz 3owu6GmqvqeUjXSQ+jyYzg8a7QiaTAjK4ew74ghjyV5SbhinrbWrMbxU3OIgxrZUPh NQ7dx92cLuZtlY62vtTAPNZMJo6ltlQu4UQSxMEM= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Why are setting identifiers not varints? (#2233) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c6218b2cd2ac_7ca43fa8894d45c426987a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 00:52:06 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c6218b2cd2ac_7ca43fa8894d45c426987a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Closed #2233 via #2437. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2233#event-2132254927 ----==_mimepart_5c6218b2cd2ac_7ca43fa8894d45c426987a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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For this to be effective endpoints need to ensure that connections IDs they provide cannot be linked by any other entity. -Endpoints MAY move to a new connection ID at any time. +At any time, endpoints MAY change the Destination Connection ID they send to a +value that has not been used on another path. Of course, you'd need your peer to do the same; otherwise, it's kind of pointless. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2414#discussion_r255759521 ----==_mimepart_5c62192396459_7eed3fa8894d45c44489b6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2091,7 +2091,8 @@ different local addresses, as discussed in {{connection-id}}.  For this to be
 effective endpoints need to ensure that connections IDs they provide cannot be
 linked by any other entity.
 
-Endpoints MAY move to a new connection ID at any time.
+At any time, endpoints MAY change the Destination Connection ID they send to a
+value that has not been used on another path.

Of course, you'd need your peer to do the same; otherwise, it's kind of pointless.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

>  
-QPACK instructions occur in three locations, each of which uses a separate
-instruction space:
+There are three separate QPACK instruction spaces. Encoder instructions
+({{encoder-instructions}}) carry table updates, decoder instructions
+({{decoder-instructions}}) carry acknowledgments of table modifications and
+header processing, and header block instructions ({{header-block-instructions}})
+compress a header list by referring to the QPACK table state.

WFM.

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----==_mimepart_5c6219b946bf5_13223ff837ed45bc48473-- From nobody Mon Feb 11 16:58:15 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBC901276D0 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2019 16:58:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hDPKsCkKnBAv for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2019 16:58:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB6D2124B0C for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2019 16:58:11 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2019 16:58:11 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549933091; bh=v2zKroRvUnvj+dVaw9Gih4ryx7CetD36wgvZhKeSbmQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ihfRp+0g/nER3yAI9uSXYHcuHNHrCAppqIQ3yOe8hLWPUOFdFXcC2PJAGB+vW2Wcx OSxQ1z1BQAxCdsJnY2Nq3PtRhA4g245HyuY8D14sotqEEUdsIzS7AAjgCqpQ1hruv2 ExTJER6KU8fzpymDt8oYrF9mIvKaiZRrOP7GHYAo= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Modify QPACK steam and instruction terminology (#2440) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c621a2316f83_50803fef1a4d45c4370d5"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 00:58:14 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c621a2316f83_50803fef1a4d45c4370d5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MikeBishop commented on this pull request. > @@ -1128,7 +1141,7 @@ The entries in the following table are registered by this document. ## Stream Type Registration -This document creates two new settings in the "HTTP/3 Stream Type" registry +This document creates two new streams in the "HTTP/3 Stream Type" registry Well, arguably, the other two actually are creating new settings and error types. But yes, if you want to fix the bug and remain consistent, this should probably be "types". -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2440#discussion_r255760308 ----==_mimepart_5c621a2316f83_50803fef1a4d45c4370d5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -1128,7 +1141,7 @@ The entries in the following table are registered by this document.
 
 ## Stream Type Registration
 
-This document creates two new settings in the "HTTP/3 Stream Type" registry
+This document creates two new streams in the "HTTP/3 Stream Type" registry

Well, arguably, the other two actually are creating new settings and error types. But yes, if you want to fix the bug and remain consistent, this should probably be "types".

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2091,7 +2091,8 @@ different local addresses, as discussed in {{connection-id}}.  For this to be
 effective endpoints need to ensure that connections IDs they provide cannot be
 linked by any other entity.
 
-Endpoints MAY move to a new connection ID at any time.
+At any time, endpoints MAY change the Destination Connection ID they send to a
+value that has not been used on another path.

I'd rather just have multiple connections or in v2, one could use multipath to do this. Alternating between CIDs on a single path seems like a recipe for problems because few will exercise this option and it has dubious value in my opinion.

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It's a big annoying that we need the `GetEarliestLossTime()` function for something that trivial. If we initialize the loss times to infinity, taking the minimum would become more straightforward, but we'd still need some code to tell which packet number space the chosen time comes from, so I'm not sure if this change would really help. > @@ -1022,13 +1021,31 @@ timers wake up late. Timers set in the past SHOULD fire immediately. Pseudocode for SetLossDetectionTimer follows: ~~~ +// Returns the earliest loss_time and the packet number +// space it's from. Returns 0 if all times are 0. +GetEarliestLossTime(): + time = loss_time[Initial] + space = Initial + for pn_space in [ Handshake, ApplicatonData ]: + if loss_time[pn_space] != 0 && + (time == 0 || loss_time[pn_space] < time): + time = loss_time[pn_space]; + space = Initial `space = pn_space` > SetLossDetectionTimer(): // Don't arm timer if there are no ack-eliciting packets // in flight. if (no ack-eliciting packets in flight): loss_detection_timer.cancel() return + [loss_time, pn_space] = GetEarliestLossTime() In Python, you don't need square brackets to receive multiple return values. And since we're not using the the `pn_space` here, we could write: `loss_time, _ = GetEarliestLossTime()` > @@ -1067,14 +1078,15 @@ Pseudocode for OnLossDetectionTimeout follows: ~~~ OnLossDetectionTimeout(): - if (crypto packets are in flight): + [loss_time, pn_space] = GetEarliestLossTime() Same here. > @@ -1067,14 +1078,15 @@ Pseudocode for OnLossDetectionTimeout follows: ~~~ OnLossDetectionTimeout(): - if (crypto packets are in flight): + [loss_time, pn_space] = GetEarliestLossTime() + if (loss_time != 0): + // Time threshold loss Detection + DetectLostPackets(pn_space) + // Don't retransmit all crypto data if a packet was just lost. This comment only makes sense for someone who followed the evolution of this algorithm. We should instead have a comment that describes when to retransmit all crypto data. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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It's a big annoying that we need the GetEarliestLossTime() function for something that trivial.
If we initialize the loss times to infinity, taking the minimum would become more straightforward, but we'd still need some code to tell which packet number space the chosen time comes from, so I'm not sure if this change would really help.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1022,13 +1021,31 @@ timers wake up late. Timers set in the past SHOULD fire immediately.
 Pseudocode for SetLossDetectionTimer follows:
 
 ~~~
+// Returns the earliest loss_time and the packet number
+// space it's from.  Returns 0 if all times are 0.
+GetEarliestLossTime():
+  time = loss_time[Initial]
+  space = Initial
+  for pn_space in [ Handshake, ApplicatonData ]:
+    if loss_time[pn_space] != 0 &&
+       (time == 0 || loss_time[pn_space] < time):
+      time = loss_time[pn_space];
+      space = Initial

space = pn_space

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  SetLossDetectionTimer():
   // Don't arm timer if there are no ack-eliciting packets
   // in flight.
   if (no ack-eliciting packets in flight):
     loss_detection_timer.cancel()
     return
 
+  [loss_time, pn_space] = GetEarliestLossTime()

In Python, you don't need square brackets to receive multiple return values.

And since we're not using the the pn_space here, we could write: loss_time, _ = GetEarliestLossTime()

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1067,14 +1078,15 @@ Pseudocode for OnLossDetectionTimeout follows:
 
 ~~~
 OnLossDetectionTimeout():
-  if (crypto packets are in flight):
+  [loss_time, pn_space] = GetEarliestLossTime()

Same here.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1067,14 +1078,15 @@ Pseudocode for OnLossDetectionTimeout follows:
 
 ~~~
 OnLossDetectionTimeout():
-  if (crypto packets are in flight):
+  [loss_time, pn_space] = GetEarliestLossTime()
+  if (loss_time != 0):
+    // Time threshold loss Detection
+    DetectLostPackets(pn_space)
+  // Don't retransmit all crypto data if a packet was just lost.

This comment only makes sense for someone who followed the evolution of this algorithm. We should instead have a comment that describes when to retransmit all crypto data.

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From reading the text, it was not clear that the timer is set based on the last (and not the first) crypto packet sent.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +  rttvar = 0
+  max_ack_delay = 0
+  kPersistentCongestionThreshold = 2
+
+If an eck-eliciting packet is sent at time = 0, the following scenario would
+illustrate persistent congestion:
+
+  t=0 | Send Pkt #1 (App Data)
+  t=1 | Send Pkt #2 (PTO 1)
+  t=3 | Send Pkt #3 (PTO 2)
+  t=7 | Send Pkt #4 (PTO 3)
+  t=8 | Recv ACK of Pkt #4
+
+The first three packets are determined to be lost when the ACK of packet 4 is
+received at t=8.  The congestion period is calculated as the time between the
+oldest and newest lost packets: (3 - 0) = 3.  The duration for persistent

The point of the pseudo-code is not to tell implementations exactly what to do. You can still implement it any way you want.
I'd like to avoid inconsistencies between the text and the pseudo code. We had these before when we introduced packet number spaces, and it now turns out to be quite a lot of work to get things straight.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +  max_ack_delay = 0
+  kPersistentCongestionThreshold = 2
+
+If an eck-eliciting packet is sent at time = 0, the following scenario would
+illustrate persistent congestion:
+
+  t=0 | Send Pkt #1 (App Data)
+  t=1 | Send Pkt #2 (PTO 1)
+  t=3 | Send Pkt #3 (PTO 2)
+  t=7 | Send Pkt #4 (PTO 3)
+  t=8 | Recv ACK of Pkt #4
+
+The first three packets are determined to be lost when the ACK of packet 4 is
+received at t=8.  The congestion period is calculated as the time between the
+oldest and newest lost packets: (3 - 0) = 3.  The duration for persistent
+congestion is equal to: (1 * ((2 ^ 2) - 1)) = 3.  Because the threshold was

Just saying, this was my experience when reading this paragraph for the first time. Would be interesting to hear what other people reading this text for the first time think.

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If we wanted to favor aggressiveness during the handshake, we could ar= m the crypto timer based on the left edge(earliest unacked ack-eliciting = packet) rather than the right(latest unacked). That's a larger change tha= n I'd like to make in this CL/issue, though.

I'm not sure if it would work. The main reason is the 3x amplification= limit, which can delay the sending of crypto packets on the server side.= You could then run into the situation where the timer based on the oldes= t packet already expires, just after sending another crypto packet. It wo= uldn't make a lot of sense to immediately retransmit that packet.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +  max_ack_delay = 0
+  kPersistentCongestionThreshold = 2
+
+If an eck-eliciting packet is sent at time = 0, the following scenario would
+illustrate persistent congestion:
+
+  t=0 | Send Pkt #1 (App Data)
+  t=1 | Send Pkt #2 (PTO 1)
+  t=3 | Send Pkt #3 (PTO 2)
+  t=7 | Send Pkt #4 (PTO 3)
+  t=8 | Recv ACK of Pkt #4
+
+The first three packets are determined to be lost when the ACK of packet 4 is
+received at t=8.  The congestion period is calculated as the time between the
+oldest and newest lost packets: (3 - 0) = 3.  The duration for persistent
+congestion is equal to: (1 * ((2 ^ 2) - 1)) = 3.  Because the threshold was

Do you have a recommendation of some specific text to add or change that would make things more clear?

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@marten-seemann commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +  max_ack_delay = 0
+  kPersistentCongestionThreshold = 2
+
+If an eck-eliciting packet is sent at time = 0, the following scenario would
+illustrate persistent congestion:
+
+  t=0 | Send Pkt #1 (App Data)
+  t=1 | Send Pkt #2 (PTO 1)
+  t=3 | Send Pkt #3 (PTO 2)
+  t=7 | Send Pkt #4 (PTO 3)
+  t=8 | Recv ACK of Pkt #4
+
+The first three packets are determined to be lost when the ACK of packet 4 is
+received at t=8.  The congestion period is calculated as the time between the
+oldest and newest lost packets: (3 - 0) = 3.  The duration for persistent
+congestion is equal to: (1 * ((2 ^ 2) - 1)) = 3.  Because the threshold was

1 * ((2 ^ kPersistentCongestionThreshold) - 1)) = 3

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----==_mimepart_5c622e23e3719_665c3fbfab6d45c0108188-- From nobody Mon Feb 11 18:26:31 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 980CF129619 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2019 18:26:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OMS4qVGxmiHL for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2019 18:26:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B174C1276D0 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2019 18:26:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2019 18:26:26 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549938386; bh=L6dZRYLThephCkZRGMPcXTESe/d/EtTCO/VxKDcIWDQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=hebXaVanEfijoenV7r0Ai73wIcYw+94jvmjpHwetuq+T1UbvlE27uTpF6bMeraAc3 q1OAZCkMJ6/fOwRJ7z+upFPBNoIk+cR1rV0QUsaZ6rIBu7Kr5oUOyCK/CSoUNV8IGW 1+34on1jAEMukwHPM0DNWuLGsVyWTlRYJQ60xx5s= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] describe what happens when the PTO timer expires (#2455) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c622ed241ed4_3f283ffd1dcd45c46335e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 02:26:30 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c622ed241ed4_3f283ffd1dcd45c46335e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson commented on this pull request. > @@ -506,9 +506,10 @@ delay sending an acknowledgement. The PTO value MUST be set to at least kGranularity, to avoid the timer expiring immediately. -When a PTO timer expires, the PTO period MUST be set to twice its current value. -This exponential reduction in the sender's rate is important because the PTOs -might be caused by loss of packets or acknowledgements due to severe congestion. +When a PTO timer expires, the sender sends a probe packet as described in the +next section. The PTO period MUST be set to twice its current value. This ```suggestion next section. The PTO period then MUST be set to twice its current value. This ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2455#pullrequestreview-202455535 ----==_mimepart_5c622ed241ed4_3f283ffd1dcd45c46335e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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This is fine, but I think that we want chairs to call it.

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[ci skip] From nobody Mon Feb 11 22:47:03 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FE3B129A87 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2019 22:47:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PeMhhSK74cRN for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2019 22:47:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD1BA1274D0 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2019 22:46:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2019 22:46:58 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549954018; bh=eqfVgmwarHUvsT834QChk2kdUKOChQyCVsCWWmzZ4Pg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=k6QyFs8ziQ2LACQc15cSmML9DaMY7bKp4Y45fK5ufZxWWdNqD5MEvfa3Hf7Ct6PAg v8jO8p+o7KUfhS4rKV/AVlvZMc/7arezBEMWLpj0RrqtxS+Dv2xVU4torrSB172M6z DQ5p8N0sCJEsUNWZ82maW0bUCOHCQrwXdnBFgKbY= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] New connection IDs are mandatory for intentional migration (#2414) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c626be23344b_30ed3ff233ed45bc584586"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 06:47:01 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c626be23344b_30ed3ff233ed45bc584586 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mikkelfj commented on this pull request. > @@ -2091,7 +2091,8 @@ different local addresses, as discussed in {{connection-id}}. For this to be effective endpoints need to ensure that connections IDs they provide cannot be linked by any other entity. -Endpoints MAY move to a new connection ID at any time. +At any time, endpoints MAY change the Destination Connection ID they send to a +value that has not been used on another path. If there is point to changing CID's on same path, then reordering can send packets with the old CID. I'm not sure there is, but it might have relevance to keep up with changes to router state. But I suppose a router will need to be able to track a CID forever if it keeps seeing it periodically. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2414#discussion_r255820990 ----==_mimepart_5c626be23344b_30ed3ff233ed45bc584586 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2091,7 +2091,8 @@ different local addresses, as discussed in {{connection-id}}.  For this to be
 effective endpoints need to ensure that connections IDs they provide cannot be
 linked by any other entity.
 
-Endpoints MAY move to a new connection ID at any time.
+At any time, endpoints MAY change the Destination Connection ID they send to a
+value that has not been used on another path.

If there is point to changing CID's on same path, then reordering can send packets with the old CID. I'm not sure there is, but it might have relevance to keep up with changes to router state. But I suppose a router will need to be able to track a CID forever if it keeps seeing it periodically.

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Note that section 17.2.3. 0-RTT does not mention 0-RTT CID but the following section 7.2.4. Handshake Packet does mention Handshake CID's.

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Don't we want to specify a minimum value now?

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----==_mimepart_5c62f1e7980ac_5b6b3feed2ad45c02467a0-- From nobody Tue Feb 12 08:24:23 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82E771292F1 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2019 08:24:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id u7Uan3FHn3wM for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2019 08:24:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 42B41127287 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2019 08:24:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 08:24:20 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1549988660; bh=fBtecb386ItzreTQld+TqD8R3FpDLVRroYdlQBo0f/Y=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=zyjoP2wda0ogcMZ11EUE6OMWCphzic+MaA1bOtNfX76PzWXnZcB8kHQh+JM2u6aOs Z8twZLoU1w0ID0qpc5YdJYtdXzGzRtt4+b0VDr0XdU9PchEVjbu1s36is+TcvivQTc 8GW0SmaKIKAETxh4Y426UpvJnflA5lHhfLnbchtA= From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Change Idle Timeout Units of Milliseconds (#2453) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c62f33428bb7_56f63faee00d45c02158d0"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 16:24:23 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c62f33428bb7_56f63faee00d45c02158d0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit No, I don't think so. Even before, if you had a greater than 1 sec RTT (somehow...) if you set an idle timeout of 1 second it would cause you problems. I think bottom line you be smart about your idle timeout values. If you set too small a value you can unnecessarily kill your own connection. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2453#issuecomment-462827885 ----==_mimepart_5c62f33428bb7_56f63faee00d45c02158d0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

No, I don't think so. Even before, if you had a greater than 1 sec RTT= (somehow...) if you set an idle timeout of 1 second it would cause you p= roblems. I think bottom line you be smart about your idle timeout values.= If you set too small a value you can unnecessarily kill your own connect= ion.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -506,9 +506,10 @@ delay sending an acknowledgement.
 The PTO value MUST be set to at least kGranularity, to avoid the timer expiring
 immediately.
 
-When a PTO timer expires, the PTO period MUST be set to twice its current value.
-This exponential reduction in the sender's rate is important because the PTOs
-might be caused by loss of packets or acknowledgements due to severe congestion.
+When a PTO timer expires, the sender sends a probe packet as described in the

It could be two probe packets, so maybe "sends one or two probe packets"?

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The PTO value MUST be set to at least kGranularity, to avoid the timer expiring immediately. -When a PTO timer expires, the PTO period MUST be set to twice its current value. -This exponential reduction in the sender's rate is important because the PTOs -might be caused by loss of packets or acknowledgements due to severe congestion. +When a PTO timer expires, the sender sends a probe packet as described in the Or simply "probes the network"? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2455#discussion_r256053817 ----==_mimepart_5c62fcfe5f65b_40b93fbc5f2d45b41538e6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -506,9 +506,10 @@ delay sending an acknowledgement.
 The PTO value MUST be set to at least kGranularity, to avoid the timer expiring
 immediately.
 
-When a PTO timer expires, the PTO period MUST be set to twice its current value.
-This exponential reduction in the sender's rate is important because the PTOs
-might be caused by loss of packets or acknowledgements due to severe congestion.
+When a PTO timer expires, the sender sends a probe packet as described in the

Or simply "probes the network"?

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=0D =0D = ----==_mimepart_5c63149425c9c_53ca3fecee4d45c01712c1-- From nobody Tue Feb 12 12:09:40 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A8DD12DF71 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2019 12:09:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EkYS-YL3wGIM for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2019 12:09:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from o10.sgmail.github.com (o10.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8FCDC12785F for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2019 12:09:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=jkE3V9ERy/z4friGrQl/Z3Q55kQ=; b=PVVuhRKKUe/iHlq/ 8S6cF4a2dLssorUMS2oBPsjGbyAkg3Y3KmC3lJavburqL+XlI4Ku7sRCHxw5TCDi 6wpICIvP4+9BGl8vunLMouX8V5eshlIwwqmDyjxIll1llIJNTmgccX9FkCOS86YX 7iMRxXmb+a5WoFxNGfcuV/4c6a4= Received: by filter1694p1mdw1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter1694p1mdw1-27893-5C6327FE-2E 2019-02-12 20:09:34.692123506 +0000 UTC m=+342744.548786616 Received: from github-lowworker-dcd58f3.cp1-iad.github.net (unknown [192.30.252.33]) by ismtpd0051p1mdw1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id bprVo5r1SuSQrCgRB9Hdgg for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2019 20:09:34.611 +0000 (UTC) Received: from github.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by github-lowworker-dcd58f3.cp1-iad.github.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 946E7240727 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2019 12:09:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 20:09:34 +0000 (UTC) From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Change Idle Timeout Units of Milliseconds (#2453) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c6327fe927cf_493e3fa5a8ad45c08521f3"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak2jl/HkLv+YiQXULTSP4d/t/vhJii10jr4rkP y8nTBXFszWAEf8yCYzssHEJAiDWOfCD7hBmVwaBXKh8IUcydd0yCuM+GZFq1s0aZxJPtDNU7Y5qypr /tU6E8XFyesupgvW8FCZWsFdz1+cMI9aJ0fHKQqoT9Oj+ysIR8HxJ22l/Qmgjita0AoMrIdNyFcgXJ g= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 20:09:39 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c6327fe927cf_493e3fa5a8ad45c08521f3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As @nibanks says, actual idle timeout depends on RTT, and that=E2=80=99s wh= at we have adopted in #2404.=0D =0D -- =0D You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.=0D Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub:=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2453#issuecomment-462914879= ----==_mimepart_5c6327fe927cf_493e3fa5a8ad45c08521f3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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@MikeBishop approved this pull request.

I'm okay with the text as it stands, but had a few things to consider.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -324,19 +324,15 @@ the connection can usually appear at any encryption level, whereas those
 associated with transferring data can only appear in the 0-RTT and 1-RTT
 encryption levels:

The beginning of this paragraph (which GitHub won't let me comment on) is no longer true -- there isn't a specific list of frames per encryption level, but a list of exceptions to a general rule.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> +MUST describe how the protocol uses 0-RTT and the measures that are employed to
+protect against replay attack.  Disabling 0-RTT entirely is the most effective
+strategy.
+
+In the core protocol, particular attention needs to be paid to STREAM frames,
+which carry application data.  If another frame type carries, or could carry,
+application semantics, then the risk from replay attack needs to be considered.
+For instance, though this is likely to be inadvisable, an application that
+attached semantics to increases in flow control credit or stream cancellation
+would need to assess whether those uses were vulnerable to replay attack.
+
+Extensions to QUIC might create an additional exposure to replay attack if they
+are used by application protocols.  QUIC extensions SHOULD describe how replay
+attacks affects their operation.  Application protocols MUST either disable
+extensions in 0-RTT or provide replay mitigation strategies for any use of the
+extension.

This last sentence feels a little weird. The application protocol is responsible for rules about transport extensions? I would expect to be able to add support for new extensions to a transport library without needing to rev the application layer, unless the extension is explicitly used by the application layer.

It seems like the requirement that extensions describe how replay attacks are mitigated would be sufficient in general, and scope that last requirement to extensions which carry explicit application semantics (e.g. DATAGRAM).

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----==_mimepart_5c633b62358ae_32e23fbe7cad45c42786ad-- From nobody Tue Feb 12 13:37:07 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CE9F130DD3 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2019 13:37:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ec6oOKFqraff for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2019 13:37:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B3045128CF2 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2019 13:36:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 13:36:58 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550007418; bh=Sgd8bTqinQp35E4CiHn5Y7NzC+w5v//vs0oSdfcXEL8=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=IaYayu6YpwnA37eX0O7/4vyCl21j5N8lgfYeVUiBpNUS1EjyWBlTnnGc3ZfU6GTMF FNT2gXDykqUWPUsY8VUgErm/mrdFRR4LCY0S3jvl/yZVyegcTqXBdvhBWZ9FXjbvyD tN4b7YpU87TtI5BhVmF2lGoJP68b/g9fP3qFbCD4= From: Mike Bishop To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] ceab0e: Discuss Application-Limited Sending Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 21:37:06 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/0rtt-reset=0D Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts=0D Commit: ceab0e21afc6c181d40ca07ca34a8d86027da7e7=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ceab0e21afc6c181d40ca0= 7ca34a8d86027da7e7=0D Author: ianswett =0D Date: 2018-08-07 (Tue, 07 Aug 2018)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Discuss Application-Limited Sending=0D =0D Fixes #1619=0D =0D =0D Commit: a38f3f9e44b95bed81592394ecbeb5f6eb0fa97a=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a38f3f9e44b95bed815923= 94ecbeb5f6eb0fa97a=0D Author: ianswett =0D Date: 2018-08-07 (Tue, 07 Aug 2018)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md=0D =0D =0D Commit: 249f152bbc66e6c16046d054357bdeca8b830d8b=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/249f152bbc66e6c16046d0= 54357bdeca8b830d8b=0D Author: ianswett =0D Date: 2018-11-20 (Tue, 20 Nov 2018)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Send a few immediate ACKs=0D =0D Attempt to address #1968=0D =0D =0D Commit: 099dedd0f2cdaedf94ba34ced4f46b0edfce06ed=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/099dedd0f2cdaedf94ba34= ced4f46b0edfce06ed=0D Author: ianswett =0D Date: 2018-11-20 (Tue, 20 Nov 2018)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md=0D =0D =0D Commit: ac59e1146fe685a353bc2f3f3d74d98e5a063afe=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ac59e1146fe685a353bc2f= 3f3d74d98e5a063afe=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2018-12-20 (Thu, 20 Dec 2018)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Rework idle timeout definition=0D =0D Closes #2149.=0D =0D =0D Commit: 4226540cb935df4c65787e48b325e140e44ad710=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4226540cb935df4c65787e= 48b325e140e44ad710=0D Author: martinduke =0D Date: 2018-12-30 (Sun, 30 Dec 2018)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Get rid of DoS vulnerability in Reserved Bits=0D =0D As currently written, any garbage packet, after removing header protectio= n, will have nonzero reserved bits and bring the connection down. Not goo= d!=0D =0D Similarly, it is perverse to force me to actually decrypt the full packet= to see if it turns out to be a misbehaving end host and comply with the = other possible reading of this requirement. Let the receiver just drop th= e bad packet after header decryption and carry on.=0D =0D =0D Commit: 4ae95269177232b01918af4ccc7b006b63cdb3d5=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4ae95269177232b01918af= 4ccc7b006b63cdb3d5=0D Author: martinduke =0D Date: 2018-12-30 (Sun, 30 Dec 2018)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D whitespace=0D =0D =0D Commit: f668691287e3eccf8e330761fdb79f44e4d4edb8=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f668691287e3eccf8e3307= 61fdb79f44e4d4edb8=0D Author: martinduke =0D Date: 2018-12-30 (Sun, 30 Dec 2018)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Addressed MT's issue=0D =0D This is a clarification now, rather than a change. 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@afrind approved this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

>  
-This section describes the instructions which are possible on each stream type.
+ - A decoder stream is a unidirectional stream of type `0x68` (ASCII 'h').
+   It carries an unframed sequence of decoder instructions from decoder
+   to encoder.
+
+<!-- s/exactly/no more than/  ? -->
+HTTP/3 endpoints contain a QPACK encoder and decoder. Each endpoint MUST

I think I'll change this to MAY in a subsequent PR

In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -811,11 +819,13 @@ An encoder cannot infer from this instruction that any updates to the dynamic
 table have been received.
 
 
-## Request and Push Streams
+## Header Block Instructions
+
+HTTP/3 endpoints convert header lists to headers blocks and exchange them inside
+HEADERS and PUSH_PROMISE frames. Header block instructions reference the static
+table, or dynamic table in a particular state without modifying it.

I'm OK with the text here.

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There aren't any CID pulls, though, isn't the whole idea here that the server only issues as many as it's willing to support?

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RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID is, in effect, a pull, if we SHOULD supply a new one every time we get it. There are security considerations that apply to that recommendation.

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But isn't it not actually a pull, specifically for this reason? In other words, isn't it a SHOULD and not a MUST to say "please provide a new one, unless you have a really good reason that you cannot/should not", for some of the reasons highlighted above?

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A few suggestions, and one bit of text that needs to be fixed, otherwise this is good. > @@ -1149,41 +1131,36 @@ expectation that it will eventually receive an Initial packet. ## Handling Version Negotiation Packets {#handle-vn} -When the client receives a Version Negotiation packet, it first checks that the -Destination and Source Connection ID fields match the Source and Destination -Connection ID fields in a packet that the client sent. If this check fails, the -packet MUST be discarded. +When a client receives a Version Negotiation packet, it MUST abandon the +current connection attempt. Version Negotiation packets are designed to allow +future versions of QUIC to negotiate the version in use between endpoints. +It is therefore expected for future versions of QUIC to change how +implementations of this version of QUIC react to Version Negotiation packets. I don't think that this can be true. The point here is that implementations of future versions of QUIC might change how they react to Version Negotiation packets when attempting connections with this version of QUIC. > @@ -5406,6 +5280,17 @@ correct instance, it is better to send a stateless reset than wait for connections to time out. However, this is acceptable only if the routing cannot be influenced by an attacker. +## Version Downgrade {#version-downgrade} + +This document defines QUIC Version Negotiation packets {{version-negotiation}}, +which can be used to negotiate the QUIC version used between two endpoints. +However, this document does not specify how this negotiation will be performed +between this version and subsequent future versions. In particular, Version +Negotiation packets do not contain any mechanism to prevent version downgrade +attacks. Future version of QUIC that wish to use Version Negotiation packets ```suggestion attacks. Future versions of QUIC that use Version Negotiation packets ``` > @@ -5406,6 +5280,17 @@ correct instance, it is better to send a stateless reset than wait for connections to time out. However, this is acceptable only if the routing cannot be influenced by an attacker. +## Version Downgrade {#version-downgrade} + +This document defines QUIC Version Negotiation packets {{version-negotiation}}, +which can be used to negotiate the QUIC version used between two endpoints. +However, this document does not specify how this negotiation will be performed +between this version and subsequent future versions. In particular, Version +Negotiation packets do not contain any mechanism to prevent version downgrade +attacks. Future version of QUIC that wish to use Version Negotiation packets +to negotiate the use of that version MUST define a mechanism that is robust ```suggestion MUST define a mechanism that is robust ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@martinthomson requested changes on this pull request.

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= =0D =0D = ----==_mimepart_5c634ab4a04ae_11c43f94ce6d45b440208b-- From nobody Tue Feb 12 14:42:09 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7640F130DE3 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2019 14:42:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id obxl2eLOK2o9 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2019 14:42:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from o11.sgmail.github.com (o11.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E468126C01 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2019 14:42:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=UQOPOWTd7zMMZajbFe2lyoH2I7Q=; b=pJK+UfrOam7/1YNy 2jKtUZJ+lQmQDVG4Ibo4HQzeKHB8zqCtVtQnqFOh+wDoTJYgUgS7vvTw5XCR3ftW 05++RUsGxlBRVDjaIYoOp1kkBNYYww3Igth640Vwa1E/dyZOHlrL+YpKM+BQuAuz qvrt3nOJyKrqGr/Sriv7kirK54E= Received: by filter1648p1mdw1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter1648p1mdw1-32552-5C634BBD-F 2019-02-12 22:42:05.609491176 +0000 UTC m=+62116.574382509 Received: from github-lowworker-b40b5a4.cp1-iad.github.net (unknown [192.30.252.36]) by ismtpd0012p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id QBloUaz_RiiFVCChHGiCMg for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2019 22:42:05.495 +0000 (UTC) Received: from github.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by github-lowworker-b40b5a4.cp1-iad.github.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 908563E10A1 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2019 14:42:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 22:42:05 +0000 (UTC) From: martinduke Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] rate-limiting of CID issuance needs to be allowed (#2436) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c634bbd8e83f_120a3fbdc7ad45c0317498"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinduke X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak1h7OD/LTk47SpG5CGWWuPEYE1PzBbXq1epmx 5UIXkT7u4pDSwTq8VV7fAhAhWQUPceUg05d3S1wp9vROFiFHbAcXpOYCJT8/qWhwkPv6LM2VwlNCmc mfz+RFGE4/BdGHwUZURXOZli158lGCF74fwDW+4WDXBxBRXyGvWHPgH9938PCm+DE+FgdpGA7Xz8fP 0= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 22:42:08 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c634bbd8e83f_120a3fbdc7ad45c0317498 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think if the spec has a SHOULD that raises known security concerns without mentioning those concerns, that's a problem. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2436#issuecomment-462967709 ----==_mimepart_5c634bbd8e83f_120a3fbdc7ad45c0317498 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I think if the spec has a SHOULD that raises known security concerns without mentioning those concerns, that's a problem.

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@martinduke, that is the point of @kazuho's PR. To include some justification for the SHOULD.

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@martinthomson Yes, I'm in full support of the PR.

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(This is technically design, because previously-required server behavior is now only recommended.) You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2457 -- Commit Summary -- * Rework GOAWAY text (again) -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (24) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2457.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2457.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2457 ----==_mimepart_5c634e43acc3e_26773f8b6bed45b43051cc Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Another attempt to group related concepts in this section which hopefully fixes #2226.

(This is technically design, because previously-required server behavior is now only recommended.)

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2457

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  • Rework GOAWAY text (again)

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@LPardue commented on this pull request.

To split hairs. What does "To complete successfully" mean exactly? Apologies if this is defined elsewhere but I can't seem to find It.

I presume the intention is that success means a well-defined response is fully received I.e. even a response with an error code of 4xx or 5xx is classed as successful.

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit janaiyengar commented on this pull request. > -- All other frame types MUST only appear at the 1-RTT levels. +Note that it is not possible to send some frames in 0-RTT for various reasons. Suggested reword: "Note that it is not possible to send the following frames in 0-RTT for various reasons: ACK, CRYPTO ..." -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2355#pullrequestreview-202958358 ----==_mimepart_5c6353c56ebc0_49af3f97ae2d45bc135971 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

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-- All other frame types MUST only appear at the 1-RTT levels.
+Note that it is not possible to send some frames in 0-RTT for various reasons.

Suggested reword:
"Note that it is not possible to send the following frames in 0-RTT for various reasons: ACK, CRYPTO ..."

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To summarize state: we should pick a better default (3, 4, 8, I don't care). And make an explicit exception to the "must not decrease" rule for 0-RTT.

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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Feb 12 15:45:23 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 793A21277CC for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2019 15:45:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TlDqEvid0VAd for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2019 15:45:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 836CB126C15 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2019 15:45:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 15:45:18 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550015118; bh=6GnBKtuCZ5kFMd1F37lnx3wEtLSPO88LfzsMn8URiRk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=DtIaY4Yl76nJR9cFIi6Q9PUhXaXvpR6tXSWVQoNscc5cCL6OGYSuF7tQ/pHS8NsIx WwPpVbAbyeZjPDf+oruLbJEJfH3rrRo+SgB+sZfT2KHjVBSp4MCXKpsyZlpqMiW/IV A7vMFMNVTbf90lEyOyyzPBCz9jrUUxObf+7oX9nw= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rework GOAWAY text (again) (#2457) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c635a8e6f253_3f483fd5578d45c01487a0"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 23:45:22 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c635a8e6f253_3f483fd5578d45c01487a0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson approved this pull request. > @@ -1259,21 +1259,21 @@ identified by a QUIC MAX_STREAM_ID frame, and MAY be zero if no requests were processed. Servers SHOULD NOT increase the QUIC MAX_STREAM_ID limit after sending a GOAWAY frame. -Once GOAWAY is sent, the server MUST reject requests sent on streams with an -identifier greater than or equal to the indicated last Stream ID. Clients MUST -NOT send new requests on the connection after receiving GOAWAY, although -requests might already be in transit. A new connection can be established for -new requests. - -If the client has sent requests on streams with a Stream ID greater than or -equal to that indicated in the GOAWAY frame, those requests are considered -rejected ({{request-cancellation}}). Clients SHOULD cancel any requests on -streams above this ID. Servers MAY also reject requests on streams below the -indicated ID if these requests were not processed. +Clients MUST NOT send new requests on the connection after receiving GOAWAY, +although a new connection MAY be established to send additional requests. I don't think that this is an "although" case. 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@martinthomson approved this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1259,21 +1259,21 @@ identified by a QUIC MAX_STREAM_ID frame, and MAY be zero if no requests were
 processed.  Servers SHOULD NOT increase the QUIC MAX_STREAM_ID limit after
 sending a GOAWAY frame.
 
-Once GOAWAY is sent, the server MUST reject requests sent on streams with an
-identifier greater than or equal to the indicated last Stream ID.  Clients MUST
-NOT send new requests on the connection after receiving GOAWAY, although
-requests might already be in transit. A new connection can be established for
-new requests.
-
-If the client has sent requests on streams with a Stream ID greater than or
-equal to that indicated in the GOAWAY frame, those requests are considered
-rejected ({{request-cancellation}}).  Clients SHOULD cancel any requests on
-streams above this ID.  Servers MAY also reject requests on streams below the
-indicated ID if these requests were not processed.
+Clients MUST NOT send new requests on the connection after receiving GOAWAY,
+although a new connection MAY be established to send additional requests.

I don't think that this is an "although" case. Maybe a separate sentence.

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The PTO value MUST be set to at least kGranularity, to avoid the timer expiring immediately. -When a PTO timer expires, the PTO period MUST be set to twice its current value. -This exponential reduction in the sender's rate is important because the PTOs -might be caused by loss of packets or acknowledgements due to severe congestion. +When a PTO timer expires, the sender sends a probe packet as described in the Or simply nothing. A probe packet is sent if two packets are sent, and this is not normative text. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2455#discussion_r256198149 ----==_mimepart_5c635dbdd7ee6_22013fcfcdcd45c438838 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -506,9 +506,10 @@ delay sending an acknowledgement.
 The PTO value MUST be set to at least kGranularity, to avoid the timer expiring
 immediately.
 
-When a PTO timer expires, the PTO period MUST be set to twice its current value.
-This exponential reduction in the sender's rate is important because the PTOs
-might be caused by loss of packets or acknowledgements due to severe congestion.
+When a PTO timer expires, the sender sends a probe packet as described in the

Or simply nothing. A probe packet is sent if two packets are sent, and this is not normative text.

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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Feb 12 16:07:38 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB8811277CC for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2019 16:07:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lcOCaJ-VxGjZ for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2019 16:07:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F8221228B7 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2019 16:07:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 16:07:34 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550016454; bh=7Jeu0ag+Sr4EfTwy9bGHgTftkFXpuuAkpBBVWxE7qC4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Awub1muqLa295If3Grctej4/qqIEjtRwgMDs/scfUKfFILaICxl3deMUjLaA6xXgr gVwXBVTjlJdB2W4JpZgwOgDc3HHrI/X4YCpJ3MtkJ2B7h/2PGFnbe45/6IaynL7T79 5XOt3WSGWeOUK56Q/BJvDGNWjUkaREMT0IjYUzVI= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Allow most frames in 0-RTT (#2355) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c635fc6d8868_2b6b3fc135ed45b462512"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 00:07:38 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c635fc6d8868_2b6b3fc135ed45b462512 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable kazuho commented on this pull request.=0D =0D =0D =0D > =0D -- All other frame types MUST only appear at the 1-RTT levels.=0D +Note that it is not possible to send the following frames in 0-RTT for v= arious=0D +reasons: ACK, CRYPTO, NEW_TOKEN, PATH_RESPONSE, and RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID= .=0D =0D I am not sure if this is accurate.=0D =0D IIUC their is nothing that mandates the client to switch to using 1-RTT w= hen it receives ServerFinished. In fact, on a lossy network, a client wou= ld benefit from using 0-RTT packets until it receives an ACK for ClientFi= nished. In such case, it would be natural to observe these frames in a 0-= RTT packet.=0D =0D I think we should either forbid them or clarify that there are allowed, i= nstead of suggesting (IMO incorrectly) that it=E2=80=99s impossible.=0D =0D -- =0D You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.=0D Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub:=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2355#pullrequestreview-2029732= 28= ----==_mimepart_5c635fc6d8868_2b6b3fc135ed45b462512 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@kazuho commented on this pull request.

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

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+Note that it is not possible to send the following frames in 0-RTT for v=
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+reasons: ACK, CRYPTO, NEW_TOKEN, PATH_RESPONSE, and RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID=
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I am not sure if this is accurate.

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IIUC their is nothing that mandates the client to switch to using 1-RT= T when it receives ServerFinished. In fact, on a lossy network, a client = would benefit from using 0-RTT packets until it receives an ACK for Clien= tFinished. In such case, it would be natural to observe these frames in a= 0-RTT packet.

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I think we should either forbid them or clarify that there are allowed= , instead of suggesting (IMO incorrectly) that it=E2=80=99s impossible.=0D =0D

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I am not sure if this is accurate.

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IIUC their is nothing that mandates the client to switch to using 1-RT= T when it receives ServerFinished. In fact, on a lossy network, a client = would benefit from using 0-RTT packets until it receives an ACK for Clien= tFinished. In such case, it would be natural to observe these frames in a= 0-RTT packet.

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I think we should either forbid them or clarify that there are allowed= , instead of suggesting (IMO incorrectly) that it=E2=80=99s impossible.=0D

Originally posted by @kazuho in https://github.com/_render_node/MDExOlB1bGxSZXF1ZXN0MjQ2MTcyNjUx/p= ull_requests/unread_timeline

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@marten-seemann approved this pull request.

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LGTM, minus one comment.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

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e. Timers set in the past SHOULD fire immediately.=0D
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 ~~~=0D
+// Returns the earliest loss_time and the packet number=0D
+// space it's from.  Returns 0 if all times are 0.=0D
+GetEarliestLossTime():=0D
+  time =3D loss_time[Initial]=0D
+  space =3D Initial=0D
+  for pn_space in [ Handshake, ApplicatonData ]:=0D
+    if loss_time[pn_space] !=3D 0 &&=0D
+       (time =3D=3D 0 || loss_time[pn_space] < time):=0D
+      time =3D loss_time[pn_space];=0D
+      space =3D pn_space=0D
+  return [time, space]=0D
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In Python you don=E2=80=99t need the brackets here. Sorry for missing = this on my earlier review.

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To be clear, this was in reference to text that mentioned that certain frames couldn't be sent in 0-RTT. That would only be true if we made this a requirement.

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Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 00:22:11 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: e15da31e052ab9d8a48fb49feb20c0df61a97d61 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e15da31e052ab9d8a48fb49feb20c0df61a97d61 Author: David Schinazi Date: 2019-01-07 (Mon, 07 Jan 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Proposal to make Version Negotiation more like Retry to punt VN to QUICv2 Commit: 0551486736d4883882372488f30bf3e295542990 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0551486736d4883882372488f30bf3e295542990 Author: David Schinazi Date: 2019-01-07 (Mon, 07 Jan 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- remove more text Commit: 738fec2ec2fad1d8f26a5307ab426bb4910643eb https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/738fec2ec2fad1d8f26a5307ab426bb4910643eb Author: David Schinazi Date: 2019-01-15 (Tue, 15 Jan 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md M draft-ietf-quic-spin-exp.md M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge branch 'master' of github.com:quicwg/base-drafts into dschinazi_vn_with_cid Commit: 3a0b08c258651e6f9924108baa9b494dfe3774c1 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3a0b08c258651e6f9924108baa9b494dfe3774c1 Author: David Schinazi Date: 2019-01-15 (Tue, 15 Jan 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Revert changes to the invariants Commit: d53a096b911f487b68412a53bb731f5c1ff6a970 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d53a096b911f487b68412a53bb731f5c1ff6a970 Author: David Schinazi Date: 2019-02-12 (Tue, 12 Feb 2019) Changed paths: A .github/release-drafter.yml M CONTRIBUTING.md M draft-ietf-quic-http.md M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md M tag.sh Log Message: ----------- Merge branch 'master' into dschinazi_vn_with_cid Commit: 6c4033e7dd54137152deb84d797fe6acc5ced2bd https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6c4033e7dd54137152deb84d797fe6acc5ced2bd Author: David Schinazi Date: 2019-02-12 (Tue, 12 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Version Negotiation: incorporate feedback from MT and Ian Commit: 95d380159040255309fd6ff32a5ebc7808f89cd3 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/95d380159040255309fd6ff32a5ebc7808f89cd3 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-02-12 (Tue, 12 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Apply MT suggestions from code review Co-Authored-By: DavidSchinazi Commit: 6f035221d174ff93d096ad67bbdc1a915fd4907d https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6f035221d174ff93d096ad67bbdc1a915fd4907d Author: David Schinazi Date: 2019-02-12 (Tue, 12 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Tweak from MT comment Commit: 54be05b2e2272bc8be25ae74b22d2b6a116e70e2 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/54be05b2e2272bc8be25ae74b22d2b6a116e70e2 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-02-13 (Wed, 13 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- "expected for" annoyed me Commit: 2a2935cce998d132a4156f55f89b80f35df32df2 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2a2935cce998d132a4156f55f89b80f35df32df2 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-02-13 (Wed, 13 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Reflow Commit: 1a4d8c0895c92e1d88f53cbe1835b443438da031 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1a4d8c0895c92e1d88f53cbe1835b443438da031 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-02-13 (Wed, 13 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #2313 from DavidSchinazi/dschinazi_vn_with_cid Proposal to make Version Negotiation more like Retry to punt VN to QUICv2 Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/383268d00c14...1a4d8c0895c9 From nobody Tue Feb 12 16:22:18 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2FBE126C01 for ; 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----==_mimepart_5c6363719599e_3b103febfa4d45c415171-- From nobody Tue Feb 12 16:23:29 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB810130EA3 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2019 16:23:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id l7Tpzh8NRh9V for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2019 16:23:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 751B2130EAF for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2019 16:23:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 16:23:13 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550017393; bh=XqSW2Z0cRE4mBWekhtddnwPgdcRYtXxDkBPfoNpSEYk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=fUEjhkVW3M0nPHiaBIPl8JXLIr22mnMf4ff4T3rG34rPKZqQ+kMowNQVvUzoC27Bs F5NF0hW+JrW/Y/OvSOlz7hM6M/MMs3HycLCdTjjulrMOTh5wQImcBNgsPladVqoDDD Q0NzB/m0SbOu1ERmOBs/euJLMQVexbZZz26v6UXA= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Build a version negotiation mechanism that mostly doesn't add round trips (#1773) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c6363717b0b0_32973fe8196d45c013526"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 00:23:20 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c6363717b0b0_32973fe8196d45c013526 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resolution included in #2313. We'll take this on in a new version (or extension). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1773#issuecomment-463000668 ----==_mimepart_5c6363717b0b0_32973fe8196d45c013526 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Resolution included in #2313. We'll take this on in a new version (or extension).

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#2313 was the accepted resolution here.

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Closes #2147.

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Closes #2150.

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>  
-- All other frame types MUST only appear at the 1-RTT levels.
+Note that it is not possible to send the following frames in 0-RTT for various
+reasons: ACK, CRYPTO, NEW_TOKEN, PATH_RESPONSE, and RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID.

This issue is now #2458.

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@kazuho commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2156,11 +2156,10 @@ endpoint in the draining state MUST NOT send any packets.  Retaining packet
 protection keys is unnecessary once a connection is in the draining state.
 
 An endpoint MAY transition from the closing period to the draining period if it
-can confirm that its peer is also closing or draining.  Receiving a
-CONNECTION_CLOSE frame is sufficient confirmation, as is receiving a stateless
-reset.  The draining period SHOULD end when the closing period would have ended.
-In other words, the endpoint can use the same end time, but cease retransmission
-of the closing packet.
+can receives a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame or stateless reset, both of which indicate

s/can receives/receives/?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3981,6 +3979,12 @@ A client MUST NOT include an original connection ID, a stateless reset token, or
 a preferred address.  A server MUST treat receipt of any of these transport
 parameters as a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR.
 
+max_connection_ids (0x000e):
+
+: The maximum number of connection IDs that the peer is willing to store.
+  This value includes only connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames.

I think what @janaiyengar is pointing out is that "the peer is willing to store" needs to be changed to "the endpoint is willing to store".

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Looks like good clarification, just one minor wording comment

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1853,7 +1853,9 @@ An endpoint also MUST NOT initiate connection migration if the peer sent the
 `disable_migration` transport parameter during the handshake.  An endpoint which
 has sent this transport parameter, but detects that a peer has nonetheless
 migrated to a different network MAY treat this as a connection error of type
-INVALID_MIGRATION.
+INVALID_MIGRATION.  Similarly, an endpoint MUST NOT migrate if its peer supplies

It would probably be worth indicating that this is intentional migration, just to keep everything clear. Elsewhere I think we've said an endpoint must not "initiate" migration, since of course its peer may think it migrated due to a NAT.

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Using the insert count is much=0D more natural, even if it means the encoding is a little strange and a=0D tiny bit inefficient (it goes 0, 2, 3, ..., Max-1, 1, 2, ...).=0D =0D I've gone through and put the references on the boundary between=0D records, which makes explanations much easier for post-base indexing in=0D= my view. I've renamed Base Index (which was never really an index) to=0D= Base, which matches that change. Similarly, renaming Largest Known=0D Received to Known Received Count makes it match better.=0D =0D There are also examples added to Insert Count and Base sections. 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Not goo= d!=0D =0D Similarly, it is perverse to force me to actually decrypt the full packet= to see if it turns out to be a misbehaving end host and comply with the = other possible reading of this requirement. Let the receiver just drop th= e bad packet after header decryption and carry on.=0D =0D =0D Commit: 4ae95269177232b01918af4ccc7b006b63cdb3d5=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4ae95269177232b01918af= 4ccc7b006b63cdb3d5=0D Author: martinduke =0D Date: 2018-12-30 (Sun, 30 Dec 2018)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D whitespace=0D =0D =0D Commit: f668691287e3eccf8e330761fdb79f44e4d4edb8=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f668691287e3eccf8e3307= 61fdb79f44e4d4edb8=0D Author: martinduke =0D Date: 2018-12-30 (Sun, 30 Dec 2018)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Addressed MT's issue=0D =0D This is a clarification now, rather than a change. 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Handshake keys quickly, without timers.=0D =0D 3. it allows us to regulate the rate of key update, without risk of=0D becoming unsynchronized.=0D =0D The big design question here is whether to include an explicit marker=0D for the current key phase, or to pull that in from the packet. I've=0D chosen the latter, but I am willing to be convinced that this is a bad=0D= idea. There is a risk that retransmissions of KEYS_READY will cause=0D problems, but that risk is easily addressed by purging unacknowledged=0D KEYS_READY frames any time you initiate a key update. Or, you could not=0D= retransmit frames blindly.=0D =0D The alternative means pulling in the notion of an epoch, likely copying=0D= from DTLS (0=3DInitial, 1=3D0-RTT, 2=3DHandshake, 3+=3D1-RTT). Thats=0D complicated and we would still need to work out what to do with the=0D validation code in that case.=0D =0D I've tried to keep the request to minimize the number of active keys, by=0D= allowing KEYS_READY to be deferred by up to 3PTO. That seems to work=0D well.=0D =0D Closes #2267, #1951.=0D =0D Prerequisite for fixing #2309.=0D =0D =0D Commit: 1b63f75ca6cbe17e30397b77f55317cd7eb25278=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1b63f75ca6cbe17e30397b= 77f55317cd7eb25278=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2019-02-13 (Wed, 13 Feb 2019)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md=0D M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md=0D M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Merge branch 'master' into simultaneous-update=0D =0D =0D Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/acff3b6afb46...1b6= 3f75ca6cb=0D From nobody Tue Feb 12 17:37:52 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71EE1130EE2 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2019 17:37:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2tQsJXhY-dDZ for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2019 17:37:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9308D130EE7 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2019 17:37:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 17:37:44 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550021864; bh=oGEQVGW7N7bx0m3UDctWV8OhXL5Xab+2rBEdox5sOxo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=NhfF10J8varra3e7GrgyiIpLLB1wKiEguyyEG6oH43BnYAVjSoOZ31bH5moi3xkC3 2L6lUmBRJo9W4hOfmA5b7yRS1wxNDZ40kcL1cqJzO8xGiuCpFzibf6fFQ2IecTAc4v EfeqvYRsrLJQgFbA9Cf2vyuv/5HSE26Pcyq5vK6o= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Push Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rework Key Update (#2237) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c6374e8a8608_28d93fba59ed45c416236d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: push X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 01:37:49 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c6374e8a8608_28d93fba59ed45c416236d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @martinthomson pushed 3 commits. a2a860f8651bb1283a721763bd0a4c9b3c580b44 Merge branch 'master' into simultaneous-update e378a885781b04b50bbae624d9a8cd601162353b KEYS_READY frame 1b63f75ca6cbe17e30397b77f55317cd7eb25278 Merge branch 'master' into simultaneous-update -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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LGTM. I fully support this PR. Just some small nits for the most part. > -Once the 1-RTT keys are established and the short header is in use, it is -possible to update the keys. The KEY_PHASE bit in the short header is used to -indicate whether key updates have occurred. The KEY_PHASE bit is initially set -to 0 and then inverted with each key update. +Once the 1-RTT keys are established and confirmed through the use of the +KEYS_READY frame, it is possible to update the keys used to protect packets. To me, the name KEYS_READY seems to indicate that the keys are about to be used, not that they are in use now. I think I'd prefer something like KEYS_ACTIVE or KEY_IN_USE. Just a personal preference though. > @@ -1259,14 +1259,14 @@ Client Server Initial[0]: CRYPTO[CH] -> Initial[0]: CRYPTO[SH] ACK[0] - Handshake[0]: CRYPTO[EE, CERT, CV, FIN] + Handshake[0]: KEYS_READY, CRYPTO[EE, CERT, CV, FIN] <- 1-RTT[0]: STREAM[1, "..."] Initial[1]: ACK[0] Is this Initial necessary? Assuming it is coalesced with the Handshake that contains KEYS_READY, wouldn't that cause the Initial keys to be thrown away, implicitly ACK'ing outstanding Initial packets? > @@ -5012,6 +5020,44 @@ Reason Phrase: This SHOULD be a UTF-8 encoded string {{!RFC3629}}. +## KEYS_READY Frame {#frame-keys-ready} + +An endpoint sends a KEYS_READY frame (type=0x1e) to signal that it has installed +keys for reading and writing packets. Receipt of this frame in a packet ```suggestion keys for both reading and writing packets. Receipt of this frame in a packet ``` To be a bit more clear, it seems you are only supposed to send this when you are both keys are ready for use, not one or the other, correct? > - 1-RTT[1]: STREAM[55, "..."], ACK[0] + 1-RTT[1]: KEYS_READY, STREAM[55, "..."], ACK[0] <- Handshake[1]: ACK[0] Similarly with this Handshake packet. Is it necessary, assuming it was coalesced with the 1-RTT packet? On a side note, if we don't get rid of it, I think it might be better to put the Handshake packet before the 1-RTT packet in the list, since that's the order they'd be coalesced (ditto for the 0-RTT example below). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2237#pullrequestreview-202998585 ----==_mimepart_5c637cce67f16_3efe3f84f3ed45c41794b8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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LGTM. I fully support this PR. Just some small nits for the most part.=

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+KEYS_READY frame, it is possible to update the keys used to protect pack=
ets.=0D
=0D

To me, the name KEYS_READY seems to indicate that the keys are about t= o be used, not that they are in use now. I think I'd prefer something lik= e KEYS_ACTIVE or KEY_IN_USE. Just a personal preference though.

=0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

=0D 
> @@ -1259,14 +1259,14 @@ Client            =
                                      Server=0D
 Initial[0]: CRYPTO[CH] ->=0D
 =0D
                                  Initial[0]: CRYPTO[SH] ACK[0]=0D
-                       Handshake[0]: CRYPTO[EE, CERT, CV, FIN]=0D
+           Handshake[0]: KEYS_READY, CRYPTO[EE, CERT, CV, FIN]=0D
                                  <- 1-RTT[0]: STREAM[1, "...&quo=
t;]=0D
 =0D
 Initial[1]: ACK[0]=0D
=0D

Is this Initial necessary? Assuming it is coalesced with the Handshake= that contains KEYS_READY, wouldn't that cause the Initial keys to be thr= own away, implicitly ACK'ing outstanding Initial packets?

=0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

=0D 
> @@ -5012,6 +5020,44 @@ Reason Phrase:=0D
   This SHOULD be a UTF-8 encoded string {{!RFC3629}}.=0D
 =0D
 =0D
+## KEYS_READY Frame {#frame-keys-ready}=0D
+=0D
+An endpoint sends a KEYS_READY frame (type=3D0x1e) to signal that it has=
 installed=0D
+keys for reading and writing packets.  Receipt of this frame in a packet=
=0D
=0D =E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D 
-keys for reading and writing packets.  Receip=
t of this frame in a packet=0D
+keys for both reading and writing packets.  Receipt of this frame in a p=
acket=0D
=0D =0D

To be a bit more clear, it seems you are only supposed to send this wh= en you are both keys are ready for use, not one or the other, correct?=0D =0D

=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

=0D 
>  =0D
-                           1-RTT[1]: STREAM[55, "..."], ACK[0]=
=0D
+               1-RTT[1]: KEYS_READY, STREAM[55, "..."], ACK[0]=
=0D
                                        <- Handshake[1]: ACK[0]=0D
=0D

Similarly with this Handshake packet. Is it necessary, assuming it was= coalesced with the 1-RTT packet? On a side note, if we don't get rid of = it, I think it might be better to put the Handshake packet before the 1-R= TT packet in the list, since that's the order they'd be coalesced (ditto = for the 0-RTT example below).

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This PR ties down transport parameters and flow control and prevents a client from using anything it learns in the handshake or 1-RTT from affecting (or expanding) what it can do with 0-RTT. This prevents a client from using 0-RTT indefinitely and creates stronger bounds on what 0-RTT can be used for. Closes #2458, #2360. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2461 -- Commit Summary -- * 0-RTT can't use transport parameters or 1-RTT frames * Add error condition -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (46) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2461.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2461.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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While in theory a client could send 0-RTT after receiving 1-RTT, this is
not a good idea. This PR ties down transport parameters and flow
control and prevents a client from using anything it learns in the
handshake or 1-RTT from affecting (or expanding) what it can do with
0-RTT. This prevents a client from using 0-RTT indefinitely and creates
stronger bounds on what 0-RTT can be used for.

Closes #2458, #2360.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2461

Commit Summary

  • 0-RTT can't use transport parameters or 1-RTT frames
  • Add error condition

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Thanks Nick. I don't care about the name, and KEYS_ACTIVE is technically more correct. > @@ -1259,14 +1259,14 @@ Client Server Initial[0]: CRYPTO[CH] -> Initial[0]: CRYPTO[SH] ACK[0] - Handshake[0]: CRYPTO[EE, CERT, CV, FIN] + Handshake[0]: KEYS_READY, CRYPTO[EE, CERT, CV, FIN] <- 1-RTT[0]: STREAM[1, "..."] Initial[1]: ACK[0] You are right. The client might send this because it processes the Initial before it processes the KEYS_ACTIVE frame, but it doesn't have to send it. > - 1-RTT[1]: STREAM[55, "..."], ACK[0] + 1-RTT[1]: KEYS_READY, STREAM[55, "..."], ACK[0] <- Handshake[1]: ACK[0] Yeah, I'll remove it on the basis that it's a nice optimization. > @@ -5012,6 +5020,44 @@ Reason Phrase: This SHOULD be a UTF-8 encoded string {{!RFC3629}}. +## KEYS_READY Frame {#frame-keys-ready} + +An endpoint sends a KEYS_READY frame (type=0x1e) to signal that it has installed +keys for reading and writing packets. Receipt of this frame in a packet Yes, both. 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Thanks Nick.

I don't care about the name, and KEYS_ACTIVE is technically more correct.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1259,14 +1259,14 @@ Client                                                  Server
 Initial[0]: CRYPTO[CH] ->
 
                                  Initial[0]: CRYPTO[SH] ACK[0]
-                       Handshake[0]: CRYPTO[EE, CERT, CV, FIN]
+           Handshake[0]: KEYS_READY, CRYPTO[EE, CERT, CV, FIN]
                                  <- 1-RTT[0]: STREAM[1, "..."]
 
 Initial[1]: ACK[0]

You are right. The client might send this because it processes the Initial before it processes the KEYS_ACTIVE frame, but it doesn't have to send it.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-                           1-RTT[1]: STREAM[55, "..."], ACK[0]
+               1-RTT[1]: KEYS_READY, STREAM[55, "..."], ACK[0]
                                        <- Handshake[1]: ACK[0]

Yeah, I'll remove it on the basis that it's a nice optimization.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -5012,6 +5020,44 @@ Reason Phrase:
   This SHOULD be a UTF-8 encoded string {{!RFC3629}}.
 
 
+## KEYS_READY Frame {#frame-keys-ready}
+
+An endpoint sends a KEYS_READY frame (type=0x1e) to signal that it has installed
+keys for reading and writing packets.  Receipt of this frame in a packet

Yes, both. And the clarification is good.

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Maybe we could recommend ignoring the value recovered from the ticket.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -5012,6 +5020,44 @@ Reason Phrase:
   This SHOULD be a UTF-8 encoded string {{!RFC3629}}.
 
 
+## KEYS_READY Frame {#frame-keys-ready}
+
+An endpoint sends a KEYS_READY frame (type=0x1e) to signal that it has installed
+keys for reading and writing packets.  Receipt of this frame in a packet
+indicates that all earlier keys can be safely discarded.

At least for dropping the Initial and Handshake keys, I had assumed that we would be sending the frame after all the transmissions have been acknowledged rather than when the new keys become available.

The concern of not waiting for ACKs is that packets would be deemed lost, having negative effect on the congestion control. For example, the proposed design suggests the server to drop Handshake keys when it receives ClientFinished, without sending an ACK for the packet that carried ClientFinished.

Are we fine with that?

The other issue regarding the text is that it does not state that the signal is unilateral. My understanding is that an endpoint is expected to drop the keys when both of the following conditions are met: 1) the endpoint has received the done frame, 2) the endpoint is fine with dropping the keys. The text seems to not capture the second condition.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -5012,6 +5020,44 @@ Reason Phrase:
   This SHOULD be a UTF-8 encoded string {{!RFC3629}}.
 
 
+## KEYS_READY Frame {#frame-keys-ready}
+
+An endpoint sends a KEYS_READY frame (type=0x1e) to signal that it has installed
+keys for reading and writing packets.  Receipt of this frame in a packet
+indicates that all earlier keys can be safely discarded.

We've had some discussions about losing packets during the handshake due to reordering, and I think that we just have to make some allowances in the congestion controller/loss recovery for that possibility. For packets that we abandon like this, we lose the positive signal (i.e., congestion window increase), but we don't necessarily create a negative signal, because abandonment means that you don't declare them lost.

I'll tweak the text about the dropping of keys requiring both sending and receiving of the frame.

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LGTM modulo the very minor concern below.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 A client SHOULD instead generate a fresh cryptographic handshake message and
 start packet numbers from 0.  This ensures that new 0-RTT packets will not use
 the same keys, avoiding any risk of key and nonce reuse; this also prevents
 0-RTT packets from previous handshake attempts from being accepted as part of
 the connection.
 
+A client MUST NOT send 0-RTT packets once it starts processing 1-RTT packets
+from the server.  This means that 0-RTT packets can't contain any response to
+packets a server sends.  For instance, a client cannot send an ACK frame in a

Maybe it's worth clarifying that: "any response to 1-RTT packets"?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -5012,6 +5020,44 @@ Reason Phrase:
   This SHOULD be a UTF-8 encoded string {{!RFC3629}}.
 
 
+## KEYS_READY Frame {#frame-keys-ready}
+
+An endpoint sends a KEYS_READY frame (type=0x1e) to signal that it has installed
+keys for reading and writing packets.  Receipt of this frame in a packet
+indicates that all earlier keys can be safely discarded.

Note the receiving only is a hangup from before I added the bit about delaying transmission of the frame in order to limit the number of active keys. If you don't have that, receipt is sufficient because receiving the frame always implies that you need to send a matching frame.

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Receipt of this frame in a packet +indicates that all earlier keys can be safely discarded. > I think that we just have to make some allowances in the congestion controller/loss recovery for that possibility. For packets that we abandon like this, we lose the positive signal (i.e., congestion window increase), but we don't necessarily create a negative signal, because abandonment means that you don't declare them lost. I think you are correct in pointing out that there's no negative signal even though we are losing a positive signal. As implied in my previous comment, my preference goes to delaying dropping keys until all the transmissions for that epoch is complete because that allows us to decouple loss-recovery / congestion control and epochs (FWIW, we will not bee seeing ACKs for ServerHello and ClientFinished). But I would not argue strongly, because there are ways to compensate for the missing signal. > I'll tweak the text about the dropping of keys requiring both sending and receiving of the frame. :+1: -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2237#discussion_r256235145 ----==_mimepart_5c638d70b171f_3acf3fe9cf6d45b8217467 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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I think that we just have to make some allowances in the congestion co= ntroller/loss recovery for that possibility. For packets that we abandon = like this, we lose the positive signal (i.e., congestion window increase)= , but we don't necessarily create a negative signal, because abandonment = means that you don't declare them lost.

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I think you are correct in pointing out that there's no negative signa= l even though we are losing a positive signal. As implied in my previous = comment, my preference goes to delaying dropping keys until all the trans= missions for that epoch is complete because that allows us to decouple lo= ss-recovery / congestion control and epochs (FWIW, we will not bee seeing= ACKs for ServerHello and ClientFinished). But I would not argue strongly= , because there are ways to compensate for the missing signal.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3605,12 +3601,12 @@ subsequent to the first do not need to fit within a single UDP datagram.
 
 #### Abandoning Initial Packets {#discard-initial}
 
-Endpoints cease both sending and processing Initial packets when it receives a
-Handshake packet containing a KEYS_READY frame.  Though packets might still be
-in flight or awaiting acknowledgment, no further Initial packets need to be
-exchanged beyond this point.  Initial packet protection keys are discarded (see
-Section 4.10 of {{QUIC-TLS}}) along with any loss recovery and congestion
-control state (see Sections 5.3.1.2 and 6.9 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}).
+Endpoints cease both sending and processing Initial packets when it both sends
+and receives a Handshake packet containing a KEYS_ACTIVE frame.  Though packets

I think we should say "sends and receives a Handshake packet or a 1-RTT packet containing a KEYS_ACTIVE frame", assuming that we wouldn't be waiting for ACKs when dropping the keys that are to carry the ACKs.

This is because a Handshake packet carrying just the KEYS_ACTIVE frame can be dropped, while all other packets reach the peers.

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----==_mimepart_5c63abc360b47_453f3fcfa1ed45bc510384-- From nobody Tue Feb 12 21:41:44 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5268B130FFA for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2019 21:41:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XEcM7A130Lk8 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2019 21:41:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4C283130FEE for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2019 21:41:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 21:41:39 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550036499; bh=5ZoyGyR1709A7LNQeT+qGva0U7pIrNojYnjZkeXTDCI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Wsmi31sDPg53/waSJsxznJY9Xb526wi3+PeyHOBVsOBhgrUsED8yc1xGO67qis+Dd TkEVxSnSG9nFnFMu1ldlSOGeDaB7KN9tRhdx/oNQWmOpUE0BURTak5NqwyfU9Do3af 7scvZ8nZ82WV9pYXzPc9nGRYryZrquOeT9jEQXIw= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rework Key Update (#2237) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c63ae131561a_56b23fd418ed45b43300bd"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 05:41:42 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c63ae131561a_56b23fd418ed45b43300bd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson commented on this pull request. > @@ -5012,6 +5020,44 @@ Reason Phrase: This SHOULD be a UTF-8 encoded string {{!RFC3629}}. +## KEYS_READY Frame {#frame-keys-ready} + +An endpoint sends a KEYS_READY frame (type=0x1e) to signal that it has installed +keys for reading and writing packets. Receipt of this frame in a packet +indicates that all earlier keys can be safely discarded. I don't want to delay discarding Initial keys, because we're would lose the DoS fix. Handshake keys are probably ok, but it is easier to draw the line between handshake and key update. I don't expect that loss and reordering will be that significant, nor will the loss of positive signals. Any missing packets should be small (just an ACK probably), so the reduced increase to congestion allowance would be negligible. We could add text to Section 6.2.2 of the recovery draft to this effect. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2237#discussion_r256254315 ----==_mimepart_5c63ae131561a_56b23fd418ed45b43300bd Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -5012,6 +5020,44 @@ Reason Phrase:
   This SHOULD be a UTF-8 encoded string {{!RFC3629}}.
 
 
+## KEYS_READY Frame {#frame-keys-ready}
+
+An endpoint sends a KEYS_READY frame (type=0x1e) to signal that it has installed
+keys for reading and writing packets.  Receipt of this frame in a packet
+indicates that all earlier keys can be safely discarded.

I don't want to delay discarding Initial keys, because we're would lose the DoS fix. Handshake keys are probably ok, but it is easier to draw the line between handshake and key update.

I don't expect that loss and reordering will be that significant, nor will the loss of positive signals. Any missing packets should be small (just an ACK probably), so the reduced increase to congestion allowance would be negligible.

We could add text to Section 6.2.2 of the recovery draft to this effect.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -5012,6 +5020,44 @@ Reason Phrase:
   This SHOULD be a UTF-8 encoded string {{!RFC3629}}.
 
 
+## KEYS_READY Frame {#frame-keys-ready}
+
+An endpoint sends a KEYS_READY frame (type=0x1e) to signal that it has installed
+keys for reading and writing packets.  Receipt of this frame in a packet
+indicates that all earlier keys can be safely discarded.

We should consider losses of handshake packets as not triggering congestion window reductions. This is perhaps a bit aggressive, but I would argue that we shouldn't have a lot of these packets anyways, and there are reasons beyond congestion that could cause these packets to be marked as lost.

I think we should go with the cleanest mechanism to drop keys -- this has been tricky to get right -- and we'll fix recovery around that. Once the other mechanisms are set, we can figure out how to best do recovery around them.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -5012,6 +5020,44 @@ Reason Phrase:
   This SHOULD be a UTF-8 encoded string {{!RFC3629}}.
 
 
+## KEYS_READY Frame {#frame-keys-ready}
+
+An endpoint sends a KEYS_READY frame (type=0x1e) to signal that it has installed
+keys for reading and writing packets.  Receipt of this frame in a packet
+indicates that all earlier keys can be safely discarded.

IMO the most architecturally sane way would be to transmit all necessary ACKs for every epoch, and I am not sure how much I buy the argument that dropping Initial keys earlier is a win, considering that there would be 1-RTT injection window anyways. A middlebox that observes an Initial can send CONNECTION_CLOSE to both endpoints (as they do for TCP), regardless of when we drop the Initial key. However I also agree that losing the ability to see the ACK is not a big deal. So maybe it's nothing more than a matter of taste.

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Some nits. We need a bit more clarity on the sending of KEY ACTIVE during the handshake, but otherwise this is good. > -The KEY_PHASE bit allows a recipient to detect a change in keying material -without necessarily needing to receive the first packet that triggered the -change. An endpoint that notices a changed KEY_PHASE bit can update keys and -decrypt the packet that contains the changed bit. +The Key Phase bit is used to indicate which packet protection keys are used to I am confused. Line 866 mentions a Key Update bit, and here we see a Key Phase bit. Is that the same bit, or do we now have 2 bits? > @@ -863,7 +863,7 @@ This protection applies to the least-significant bits of the first byte, plus the Packet Number field. The four least-significant bits of the first byte are protected for packets with long headers; the five least significant bits of the first byte are protected for packets with short headers. For both header forms, -this covers the reserved bits and the Packet Number Length field; the Key Phase +this covers the reserved bits and the Packet Number Length field; the Key Update bit is also protected for packets with a short header. See comments in Key Update section. I would vote for keeping the Key Phase name. > +corresponding key and IV are created from that secret as defined in +{{protection-keys}}. The header protection key is not updated. + +The endpoint toggles the value of the Key Phase bit, and uses the updated key +and IV to protect all subsequent packets. + +An endpoint MUST NOT initiate a key update prior to having received a +KEYS_ACTIVE frame in a packet from the current key phase. A subsequent key +update can only be performed after the endpoint has successfully processed a +KEYS_ACTIVE frame from a packet with a matching key phase. This ensures that +keys are available to both peers before another can be initiated. + +Once an endpoint has successfully processed a packet with the same key phase, it +can send a KEYS_ACTIVE frame. Endpoints MAY defer sending a KEYS_ACTIVE frame +after a key update (see {{key-update-old-keys}}). + I assume that "processed a packet" means "received, successfully decrypted, and processed the content of the frames." But I have to guess. Encrypting and sending is a form of processing too. The term first occurs in section 8.1, and it is a bit puzzling there too. I would suggest adding a formal definition in "1.2. Terms and Definitions ". > +## Responding to a Key Update + +An endpoint that sends a KEYS_ACTIVE frame can accept further key updates. A +key update can happen even without seeing a KEYS_ACTIVE frame from the peer. If +a packet is received with a key phase that differs from the value the endpoint +used to protect the packet containing its last KEYS_ACTIVE frame, the endpoint +creates a new packet protection secret for reading and the corresponding key and +IV. An endpoint uses the same key derivation process as its peer uses to +generate keys for receiving. + +If the packet protection is successfully removed using the updated key and IV, +then the keys the endpoint initiates a key update in response, as described in +{{key-update-initiate}}. An endpoint that responds to a key update MUST send a +KEYS_ACTIVE frame to indicate that it is both sending and receiving with updated +keys, though it MAY defer sending the frame (see {{key-update-old-keys}}). + Isn't that a restatement of the lines 1167-1169? Why do we have the same text twice, with slightly different phrasing, "processed" vs. "packet protection is successfully removed" ? > +corresponding key and IV are created from that secret as defined in +{{protection-keys}}. The header protection key is not updated. + +The endpoint toggles the value of the Key Phase bit, and uses the updated key +and IV to protect all subsequent packets. + +An endpoint MUST NOT initiate a key update prior to having received a +KEYS_ACTIVE frame in a packet from the current key phase. A subsequent key +update can only be performed after the endpoint has successfully processed a +KEYS_ACTIVE frame from a packet with a matching key phase. This ensures that +keys are available to both peers before another can be initiated. + +Once an endpoint has successfully processed a packet with the same key phase, it +can send a KEYS_ACTIVE frame. Endpoints MAY defer sending a KEYS_ACTIVE frame +after a key update (see {{key-update-old-keys}}). + A lot of that text is going to be specified again in the following paragraphs. Do we need a paraphrase here? > +place of discarded keys when key updates are not permitted. + + +## Using Old Keys {#key-update-old-keys} + +During a key update, packets protected with older keys might arrive if they were +delayed by the network. If those old keys are available, then they can be used +to remove packet protection. + +After a key update, an endpoint MAY delay sending the KEYS_ACTIVE frame by up to +three times the Probe Timeout (PTO, see {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}) to minimize the +number of active keys it maintains. During this time, an endpoint can use old +keys to process delayed packets rather than enabling a new key update. This +only applies to key updates that use the Key Phase bit; endpoints MUST NOT defer +sending of KEYS_ACTIVE during and immediately after the handshake. + "key updates that use the Key Phase bit". That's a weird way to put it. Maybe a reference to the ladder diagram in the transport spec? > +corresponding key and IV are created from that secret as defined in +{{protection-keys}}. The header protection key is not updated. + +The endpoint toggles the value of the Key Phase bit, and uses the updated key +and IV to protect all subsequent packets. + +An endpoint MUST NOT initiate a key update prior to having received a +KEYS_ACTIVE frame in a packet from the current key phase. A subsequent key +update can only be performed after the endpoint has successfully processed a +KEYS_ACTIVE frame from a packet with a matching key phase. This ensures that +keys are available to both peers before another can be initiated. + +Once an endpoint has successfully processed a packet with the same key phase, it +can send a KEYS_ACTIVE frame. Endpoints MAY defer sending a KEYS_ACTIVE frame +after a key update (see {{key-update-old-keys}}). + Initial to Handshake, and Handshake to 1-RTT. Are these special cases of Key Update? > @@ -1259,15 +1259,13 @@ Client Server Initial[0]: CRYPTO[CH] -> Initial[0]: CRYPTO[SH] ACK[0] - Handshake[0]: CRYPTO[EE, CERT, CV, FIN] + Handshake[0]: KEYS_ACTIVE, CRYPTO[EE, CERT, CV, FIN] <- 1-RTT[0]: STREAM[1, "..."] Sending the KEY ACTIVE there seems wrong. The logic "I have processed a packet at this key level". That has not happened yet, will only happen at the sending of `<- Handshake[1]: ACK[0]`. That's the same reason why you correctly do not place a Key Active frame in the packet `<- 1-RTT[0]: STREAM[1, "..."]` > @@ -1283,15 +1281,13 @@ Initial[0]: CRYPTO[CH] 0-RTT[0]: STREAM[0, "..."] -> Initial[0]: CRYPTO[SH] ACK[0] - Handshake[0] CRYPTO[EE, CERT, CV, FIN] + Handshake[0]: KEYS_ACTIVE, CRYPTO[EE, CERT, CV, FIN] <- 1-RTT[0]: STREAM[1, "..."] ACK[0] Same issue. You cannot send Key Active there because the server has not yet received an Handshake packet from the peer. > @@ -3520,7 +3520,7 @@ carries ACKs in either direction. ~~~ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ -|1|1| 0 |R R|P P| +|1|1| 0 | R | P | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Unrelated change. Makes the PR harder to read. > #### Abandoning Initial Packets {#discard-initial} -A client stops both sending and processing Initial packets when it sends its -first Handshake packet. A server stops sending and processing Initial packets -when it receives its first Handshake packet. Though packets might still be in -flight or awaiting acknowledgment, no further Initial packets need to be -exchanged beyond this point. Initial packet protection keys are discarded (see -Section 4.10 of {{QUIC-TLS}}) along with any loss recovery and congestion -control state (see Sections 5.3.1.2 and 6.9 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}). +Endpoints cease both sending and processing Initial packets when it both sends +and receives a Handshake or 1-RTT packet containing a KEYS_ACTIVE frame. Though +packets might still be in flight or awaiting acknowledgment, no further Initial +packets need to be exchanged beyond this point. Initial packet protection keys +are discarded (see Section 4.10 of {{QUIC-TLS}}) along with any loss recovery +and congestion control state (see Sections 5.3.1.2 and 6.9 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}). The server side specification feels wrong. The server does not know that the peer has received the server initial until it receives the KEY ACTIVE (Handshake) from the client. Yes, there is an "implicit" dependency that the Handshake cannot be processed without receiving first the Initial packet. There will be cases where Initial is lost, and both Initial and Handshake have to be retransmitted. > @@ -3843,7 +3847,7 @@ short packet header. 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ -|0|1|S|R|R|K|P P| +|0|1|S| R |K| P | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Unrelated change. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2237#pullrequestreview-203046954 ----==_mimepart_5c63c7286e8df_2d753fbd2d2d45b88204b6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@huitema commented on this pull request.

Some nits. We need a bit more clarity on the sending of KEY ACTIVE during the handshake, but otherwise this is good.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>  
-The KEY_PHASE bit allows a recipient to detect a change in keying material
-without necessarily needing to receive the first packet that triggered the
-change.  An endpoint that notices a changed KEY_PHASE bit can update keys and
-decrypt the packet that contains the changed bit.
+The Key Phase bit is used to indicate which packet protection keys are used to

I am confused. Line 866 mentions a Key Update bit, and here we see a Key Phase bit. Is that the same bit, or do we now have 2 bits?

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -863,7 +863,7 @@ This protection applies to the least-significant bits of the first byte, plus
 the Packet Number field.  The four least-significant bits of the first byte are
 protected for packets with long headers; the five least significant bits of the
 first byte are protected for packets with short headers.  For both header forms,
-this covers the reserved bits and the Packet Number Length field; the Key Phase
+this covers the reserved bits and the Packet Number Length field; the Key Update
 bit is also protected for packets with a short header.

See comments in Key Update section. I would vote for keeping the Key Phase name.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> +corresponding key and IV are created from that secret as defined in
+{{protection-keys}}.  The header protection key is not updated.
+
+The endpoint toggles the value of the Key Phase bit, and uses the updated key
+and IV to protect all subsequent packets.
+
+An endpoint MUST NOT initiate a key update prior to having received a
+KEYS_ACTIVE frame in a packet from the current key phase.  A subsequent key
+update can only be performed after the endpoint has successfully processed a
+KEYS_ACTIVE frame from a packet with a matching key phase.  This ensures that
+keys are available to both peers before another can be initiated.
+
+Once an endpoint has successfully processed a packet with the same key phase, it
+can send a KEYS_ACTIVE frame.  Endpoints MAY defer sending a KEYS_ACTIVE frame
+after a key update (see {{key-update-old-keys}}).
+

I assume that "processed a packet" means "received, successfully decrypted, and processed the content of the frames." But I have to guess. Encrypting and sending is a form of processing too. The term first occurs in section 8.1, and it is a bit puzzling there too. I would suggest adding a formal definition in "1.2. Terms and Definitions ".

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> +## Responding to a Key Update
+
+An endpoint that sends a KEYS_ACTIVE frame can accept further key updates.  A
+key update can happen even without seeing a KEYS_ACTIVE frame from the peer.  If
+a packet is received with a key phase that differs from the value the endpoint
+used to protect the packet containing its last KEYS_ACTIVE frame, the endpoint
+creates a new packet protection secret for reading and the corresponding key and
+IV.  An endpoint uses the same key derivation process as its peer uses to
+generate keys for receiving.
+
+If the packet protection is successfully removed using the updated key and IV,
+then the keys the endpoint initiates a key update in response, as described in
+{{key-update-initiate}}.  An endpoint that responds to a key update MUST send a
+KEYS_ACTIVE frame to indicate that it is both sending and receiving with updated
+keys, though it MAY defer sending the frame (see {{key-update-old-keys}}).
+

Isn't that a restatement of the lines 1167-1169? Why do we have the same text twice, with slightly different phrasing, "processed" vs. "packet protection is successfully removed" ?

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> +corresponding key and IV are created from that secret as defined in
+{{protection-keys}}.  The header protection key is not updated.
+
+The endpoint toggles the value of the Key Phase bit, and uses the updated key
+and IV to protect all subsequent packets.
+
+An endpoint MUST NOT initiate a key update prior to having received a
+KEYS_ACTIVE frame in a packet from the current key phase.  A subsequent key
+update can only be performed after the endpoint has successfully processed a
+KEYS_ACTIVE frame from a packet with a matching key phase.  This ensures that
+keys are available to both peers before another can be initiated.
+
+Once an endpoint has successfully processed a packet with the same key phase, it
+can send a KEYS_ACTIVE frame.  Endpoints MAY defer sending a KEYS_ACTIVE frame
+after a key update (see {{key-update-old-keys}}).
+

A lot of that text is going to be specified again in the following paragraphs. Do we need a paraphrase here?

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> +place of discarded keys when key updates are not permitted.
+
+
+## Using Old Keys {#key-update-old-keys}
+
+During a key update, packets protected with older keys might arrive if they were
+delayed by the network.  If those old keys are available, then they can be used
+to remove packet protection.
+
+After a key update, an endpoint MAY delay sending the KEYS_ACTIVE frame by up to
+three times the Probe Timeout (PTO, see {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}) to minimize the
+number of active keys it maintains.  During this time, an endpoint can use old
+keys to process delayed packets rather than enabling a new key update.  This
+only applies to key updates that use the Key Phase bit; endpoints MUST NOT defer
+sending of KEYS_ACTIVE during and immediately after the handshake.
+

"key updates that use the Key Phase bit". That's a weird way to put it. Maybe a reference to the ladder diagram in the transport spec?

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> +corresponding key and IV are created from that secret as defined in
+{{protection-keys}}.  The header protection key is not updated.
+
+The endpoint toggles the value of the Key Phase bit, and uses the updated key
+and IV to protect all subsequent packets.
+
+An endpoint MUST NOT initiate a key update prior to having received a
+KEYS_ACTIVE frame in a packet from the current key phase.  A subsequent key
+update can only be performed after the endpoint has successfully processed a
+KEYS_ACTIVE frame from a packet with a matching key phase.  This ensures that
+keys are available to both peers before another can be initiated.
+
+Once an endpoint has successfully processed a packet with the same key phase, it
+can send a KEYS_ACTIVE frame.  Endpoints MAY defer sending a KEYS_ACTIVE frame
+after a key update (see {{key-update-old-keys}}).
+

Initial to Handshake, and Handshake to 1-RTT. Are these special cases of Key Update?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1259,15 +1259,13 @@ Client                                                  Server
 Initial[0]: CRYPTO[CH] ->
 
                                  Initial[0]: CRYPTO[SH] ACK[0]
-                       Handshake[0]: CRYPTO[EE, CERT, CV, FIN]
+           Handshake[0]: KEYS_ACTIVE, CRYPTO[EE, CERT, CV, FIN]
                                  <- 1-RTT[0]: STREAM[1, "..."]

Sending the KEY ACTIVE there seems wrong. The logic "I have processed a packet at this key level". That has not happened yet, will only happen at the sending of <- Handshake[1]: ACK[0]. That's the same reason why you correctly do not place a Key Active frame in the packet <- 1-RTT[0]: STREAM[1, "..."]

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1283,15 +1281,13 @@ Initial[0]: CRYPTO[CH]
 0-RTT[0]: STREAM[0, "..."] ->
 
                                  Initial[0]: CRYPTO[SH] ACK[0]
-                        Handshake[0] CRYPTO[EE, CERT, CV, FIN]
+           Handshake[0]: KEYS_ACTIVE, CRYPTO[EE, CERT, CV, FIN]
                           <- 1-RTT[0]: STREAM[1, "..."] ACK[0]

Same issue. You cannot send Key Active there because the server has not yet received an Handshake packet from the peer.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3520,7 +3520,7 @@ carries ACKs in either direction.
 
 ~~~
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
-|1|1| 0 |R R|P P|
+|1|1| 0 | R | P |
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

Unrelated change. Makes the PR harder to read.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  #### Abandoning Initial Packets {#discard-initial}
 
-A client stops both sending and processing Initial packets when it sends its
-first Handshake packet.  A server stops sending and processing Initial packets
-when it receives its first Handshake packet.  Though packets might still be in
-flight or awaiting acknowledgment, no further Initial packets need to be
-exchanged beyond this point.  Initial packet protection keys are discarded (see
-Section 4.10 of {{QUIC-TLS}}) along with any loss recovery and congestion
-control state (see Sections 5.3.1.2 and 6.9 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}).
+Endpoints cease both sending and processing Initial packets when it both sends
+and receives a Handshake or 1-RTT packet containing a KEYS_ACTIVE frame.  Though
+packets might still be in flight or awaiting acknowledgment, no further Initial
+packets need to be exchanged beyond this point.  Initial packet protection keys
+are discarded (see Section 4.10 of {{QUIC-TLS}}) along with any loss recovery
+and congestion control state (see Sections 5.3.1.2 and 6.9 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}).

The server side specification feels wrong. The server does not know that the peer has received the server initial until it receives the KEY ACTIVE (Handshake) from the client. Yes, there is an "implicit" dependency that the Handshake cannot be processed without receiving first the Initial packet. There will be cases where Initial is lost, and both Initial and Handshake have to be retransmitted.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3843,7 +3847,7 @@ short packet header.
  0                   1                   2                   3
  0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
-|0|1|S|R|R|K|P P|
+|0|1|S| R |K| P |
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

Unrelated change.

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----==_mimepart_5c63c7286e8df_2d753fbd2d2d45b88204b6-- From nobody Wed Feb 13 05:31:06 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16DC6128CE4 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2019 05:31:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zPiaf1Fjcjtw for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2019 05:31:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9D66F128BCC for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2019 05:31:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 05:30:59 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550064659; bh=O9k0eXxd4Ma74ejxAgM6I4s/TAAmuMmBUwdCs/G4ABk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=qBCMBglnJsTqd4VkhIFwVEeKwtO9lSX71nXugFpwxCiq5IN/e2TMC5qKogaDEiBll cUJNdrg7NKPPtJNQUuQJzBatR6X3r7RixzCfEMd+Xjt/7S2uvItcMN5HaDCZUHw05J wazGJL0dBQhStWtKhIto+ZKYGLvDWTFdH3X44COo= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] SPA ad Infinitum (#2462) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c641c133abc4_553b3f8bbaad45b491598"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 13:31:05 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c641c133abc4_553b3f8bbaad45b491598 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As far as I can tell, there is currently no protection against infinite loops in Server Preferred Address redirection. In comparison, Retry only permits one hop. A server should of course not send its own address, but it might not aways know it. It is also possible for two servers to prefer each other. A client should not keep shopping for a better connection endlessly. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2462 ----==_mimepart_5c641c133abc4_553b3f8bbaad45b491598 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

As far as I can tell, there is currently no protection against infinite loops in Server Preferred Address redirection.

In comparison, Retry only permits one hop.

A server should of course not send its own address, but it might not aways know it.
It is also possible for two servers to prefer each other.
A client should not keep shopping for a better connection endlessly.

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----==_mimepart_5c641c133abc4_553b3f8bbaad45b491598-- From nobody Wed Feb 13 05:33:18 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B7C112D826 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2019 05:33:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZZ3HM6c_IndH for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2019 05:33:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BA703128BCC for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2019 05:33:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 05:33:12 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550064792; bh=1C182iOZsWmmxjmQyR+9jUCpSamzHmXyFuGD7SIo2m0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=wONCqkzWnrH4ID+pJpGQYaG2x1eHXEhQlUEsfYx7T98Z7aihOFEh602G4Y+lFJn5I Es4YQnAU6FEn8fLvOj5gPb4ME6AzG0IdghL7cpbtQusGiPvwq4yInjeiM0higeXpd4 O4xse/24KBKLKU3op9FYhqAzYAWqCMeRTNv2u3go= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rework GOAWAY text (again) (#2457) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c641c988418d_6c2e3f95b68d45c42855ab"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 13:33:17 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c641c988418d_6c2e3f95b68d45c42855ab Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ianswett commented on this pull request. > @@ -1270,10 +1270,10 @@ client. It is RECOMMENDED that the server explicitly reject such requests (see streams. The client MAY also cancel requests which will not be processed. Requests on Stream IDs less than the Stream ID in the GOAWAY frame might have -been processed; their status cannot be known until they are completed -successfully, reset individually, or the connection terminates. Servers MAY -reject individual requests on streams below the indicated ID if these requests -were not processed. +been processed; their status cannot be known until a response is received, the +stream is reset individually, or the connection terminates. Servers MAY reject Does reject == reset here? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2457#pullrequestreview-203210056 ----==_mimepart_5c641c988418d_6c2e3f95b68d45c42855ab Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1270,10 +1270,10 @@ client.  It is RECOMMENDED that the server explicitly reject such requests (see
 streams.  The client MAY also cancel requests which will not be processed.
 
 Requests on Stream IDs less than the Stream ID in the GOAWAY frame might have
-been processed; their status cannot be known until they are completed
-successfully, reset individually, or the connection terminates.  Servers MAY
-reject individual requests on streams below the indicated ID if these requests
-were not processed.
+been processed; their status cannot be known until a response is received, the
+stream is reset individually, or the connection terminates.  Servers MAY reject

Does reject == reset here?

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Server's preferred address does not cause a new handshake. It merely changes the server IP the client is communicating with for the existing handshake.

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Uhh, so I am mixing up Retry with SPA.

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How can there be a loop? SPA is only used to tell the client to migrate, not to initiate a new connection.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -412,7 +412,7 @@ is available, or if the network changes, the initial RTT SHOULD be set to 100ms.
 When an acknowledgement is received, a new RTT is computed and the timer
 SHOULD be set for twice the newly computed smoothed RTT.
 
-When crypto packets are sent, the sender MUST set a timer for the crypto
+Every time a crypto packet is sent, the sender MUST set a timer for the crypto

How about "A timer MUST be updated to expire after the crypto timeout period after a new crypto packet is sent"?

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1022,13 +1021,31 @@ timers wake up late. Timers set in the past SHOULD fire immediately.
 Pseudocode for SetLossDetectionTimer follows:
 
 ~~~
+// Returns the earliest loss_time and the packet number
+// space it's from.  Returns 0 if all times are 0.
+GetEarliestLossTime():
+  time = loss_time[Initial]
+  space = Initial
+  for pn_space in [ Handshake, ApplicatonData ]:
+    if loss_time[pn_space] != 0 &&
+       (time == 0 || loss_time[pn_space] < time):
+      time = loss_time[pn_space];
+      space = pn_space
+  return [time, space]

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The PTO value MUST be set to at least kGranularity, to avoid the timer expiring immediately. -When a PTO timer expires, the PTO period MUST be set to twice its current value. -This exponential reduction in the sender's rate is important because the PTOs -might be caused by loss of packets or acknowledgements due to severe congestion. +When a PTO timer expires, the sender sends a probe packet as described in the I like @nibanks's suggestion. It's independent of how the probing is actually done, which we describe in detail later. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2455#discussion_r256414841 ----==_mimepart_5c6427a9a141f_5a3c3fd61bad45b8301111 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -506,9 +506,10 @@ delay sending an acknowledgement.
 The PTO value MUST be set to at least kGranularity, to avoid the timer expiring
 immediately.
 
-When a PTO timer expires, the PTO period MUST be set to twice its current value.
-This exponential reduction in the sender's rate is important because the PTOs
-might be caused by loss of packets or acknowledgements due to severe congestion.
+When a PTO timer expires, the sender sends a probe packet as described in the

I like @nibanks's suggestion. It's independent of how the probing is actually done, which we describe in detail later.

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I think this is ok, but I think it's going to be difficult to get this correct in practice. I expect most implementations will migrate to 1-RTT keys as soon as possible and try to avoid writing special logic for this case, but I can't come up with a way to force clients to do that.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -5012,6 +5020,44 @@ Reason Phrase:
   This SHOULD be a UTF-8 encoded string {{!RFC3629}}.
 
 
+## KEYS_READY Frame {#frame-keys-ready}
+
+An endpoint sends a KEYS_READY frame (type=0x1e) to signal that it has installed
+keys for reading and writing packets.  Receipt of this frame in a packet
+indicates that all earlier keys can be safely discarded.

I personally prefer the immediate discarding of keys and implicit ACKs.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1259,15 +1259,13 @@ Client                                                  Server
 Initial[0]: CRYPTO[CH] ->
 
                                  Initial[0]: CRYPTO[SH] ACK[0]
-                       Handshake[0]: CRYPTO[EE, CERT, CV, FIN]
+           Handshake[0]: KEYS_ACTIVE, CRYPTO[EE, CERT, CV, FIN]
                                  <- 1-RTT[0]: STREAM[1, "..."]

My understanding is that the logic to send a KEYS_ACTIVE frame is that you have both read and write keys available for use. Not that you have used them. For that reason, the server doesn't send the KEYS_ACTIVE for 1-RTT, but it does send it for Handshake.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  #### Abandoning Initial Packets {#discard-initial}
 
-A client stops both sending and processing Initial packets when it sends its
-first Handshake packet.  A server stops sending and processing Initial packets
-when it receives its first Handshake packet.  Though packets might still be in
-flight or awaiting acknowledgment, no further Initial packets need to be
-exchanged beyond this point.  Initial packet protection keys are discarded (see
-Section 4.10 of {{QUIC-TLS}}) along with any loss recovery and congestion
-control state (see Sections 5.3.1.2 and 6.9 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}).
+Endpoints cease both sending and processing Initial packets when it both sends
+and receives a Handshake or 1-RTT packet containing a KEYS_ACTIVE frame.  Though
+packets might still be in flight or awaiting acknowledgment, no further Initial
+packets need to be exchanged beyond this point.  Initial packet protection keys
+are discarded (see Section 4.10 of {{QUIC-TLS}}) along with any loss recovery
+and congestion control state (see Sections 5.3.1.2 and 6.9 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}).

The KEYS_ACTIVE is sent when both read and write keys are ready, but you don't throw away the previous keys until you have sent and received a KEYS_ACTIVE. I'm unsure of what the problem is here. If you receive a KEYS_ACTIVE then the peer must have received all the necessary packets of yours sent with the previous key.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 A client SHOULD instead generate a fresh cryptographic handshake message and
 start packet numbers from 0.  This ensures that new 0-RTT packets will not use
 the same keys, avoiding any risk of key and nonce reuse; this also prevents
 0-RTT packets from previous handshake attempts from being accepted as part of
 the connection.
 
+A client MUST NOT send 0-RTT packets once it starts processing 1-RTT packets
+from the server.  This means that 0-RTT packets can't contain any response to
+frames from 1-RTT packets.  For instance, a client cannot send an ACK frame in a
+0-RTT packet, because that can only acknowledge a 1-RTT packet.  An
+acknowledgment for a 1-RTT packet MUST be carried in a 1-RTT packet.
+

A server MAY close a connection with the error PROTOCOL_VIOLATION if it is able to observe that a client sends 0-RTT packets based on any information received in 1-RTT packets, such as using increased flow control credits or stream identifiers.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3981,6 +3979,12 @@ A client MUST NOT include an original connection ID, a stateless reset token, or
 a preferred address.  A server MUST treat receipt of any of these transport
 parameters as a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR.
 
+max_connection_ids (0x000e):
+
+: The maximum number of connection IDs that the peer is willing to store.
+  This value includes only connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames.

Isn't the number of stored connection IDs symmetric? In practice, each address change requires both sides to change their CIDs (except for zero-length cases).

I'm not sure I see any point in ever storing more than min(my_max_connection_ids, your_max_connection_ids)

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4106,6 +4102,12 @@ A client MUST NOT include an original connection ID, a stateless reset token, or
 a preferred address.  A server MUST treat receipt of any of these transport
 parameters as a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR.
 
+max_connection_ids (0x000e):
+
+: The maximum number of connection IDs that the peer is willing to store.
+  This value includes only connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames.
+  If this parameter is absent, a default of 0 is assumed.

I am a little hazy on the proper behavior for NAT rebinding vs. migration, but how is communicating a zero here different from disable_migration? Do we still need that TP?

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1270,10 +1270,10 @@ client.  It is RECOMMENDED that the server explicitly reject such requests (see
 streams.  The client MAY also cancel requests which will not be processed.
 
 Requests on Stream IDs less than the Stream ID in the GOAWAY frame might have
-been processed; their status cannot be known until they are completed
-successfully, reset individually, or the connection terminates.  Servers MAY
-reject individual requests on streams below the indicated ID if these requests
-were not processed.
+been processed; their status cannot be known until a response is received, the
+stream is reset individually, or the connection terminates.  Servers MAY reject

Reject and cancel are defined (cross-ref in previous paragraph) as reset with particular error codes. If that's not clear, I'm open to proposed wordsmithing.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -5012,6 +5020,44 @@ Reason Phrase:
   This SHOULD be a UTF-8 encoded string {{!RFC3629}}.
 
 
+## KEYS_READY Frame {#frame-keys-ready}
+
+An endpoint sends a KEYS_READY frame (type=0x1e) to signal that it has installed
+keys for reading and writing packets.  Receipt of this frame in a packet
+indicates that all earlier keys can be safely discarded.

@kazuho, but implementations could quite reasonably be skeptical of packets with CONNECTION_CLOSE and wait to see if others arrive. Injecting a fictitious Initial packet with a broken/different handshake is a much more effective attack. It's true that 1 RTT is probably plenty of time for an attacker, but I'd prefer to minimize the window anyway.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2211,7 +2211,9 @@ endpoint.  An endpoint that sends packets near the end of the idle timeout
 period of a peer risks having those packets discarded if its peer enters the
 draining state before the packets arrive.  If a peer could timeout within an
 Probe Timeout (PTO, see Section 6.2.2 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), it is advisable to
-test for liveness before sending any data that cannot be retried safely.
+test for liveness before sending any data that cannot be retried safely.  Note
+that it is likely that only application protocols or using applications will
+know what information can be retried.

what does "using applications" mean?

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -412,7 +412,7 @@ is available, or if the network changes, the initial RTT SHOULD be set to 100ms.
 When an acknowledgement is received, a new RTT is computed and the timer
 SHOULD be set for twice the newly computed smoothed RTT.
 
-When crypto packets are sent, the sender MUST set a timer for the crypto
+Every time a crypto packet is sent, the sender MUST set a timer for the crypto

If no previous RTT is available,
-->
If no previous RTT, or a-priori estimate, is available,

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----==_mimepart_5c6456bf213c_3f053fc35dcd45b4903510-- From nobody Wed Feb 13 10:03:03 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EDE3131065 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2019 10:02:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Tymf9kZosru1 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2019 10:02:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 57DDD13105D for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2019 10:02:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 10:02:53 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550080973; bh=g6Dvs9GYUaFDnkOSfFDHmsAsOfNpyCOJfNzfVgEIinA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=taWka8LbQf6vP23I4U2bBUWZshipxCs6o1/K2HGTo3Pf72fEbBzmFCWsfr26lcsde OMSAN1Hekje+RbPYNHIGZuq/qzd9VDNmVbhWp6B/MrUIcDUB2g/G8jOy0aChNYHwyF 1yXkr17iURiJMSQp88X0wrlWu763ejT1Rt0kRYAw= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rework Key Update (#2237) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c645bcd218d0_61753fa9a54d45c084372"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 18:03:02 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c645bcd218d0_61753fa9a54d45c084372 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MikeBishop commented on this pull request. >From a less-TLS-steeped reader; take the comments for what they're worth. :-) > +from the existing write secret as performed in Section 7.2 of {{!TLS13}}. This +uses the KDF function provided by TLS with a label of "quic ku". The +corresponding key and IV are created from that secret as defined in +{{protection-keys}}. The header protection key is not updated. + +The endpoint toggles the value of the Key Phase bit, and uses the updated key +and IV to protect all subsequent packets. + +An endpoint MUST NOT initiate a key update prior to having received a +KEYS_ACTIVE frame in a packet from the current key phase. A subsequent key +update can only be performed after the endpoint has successfully processed a +KEYS_ACTIVE frame from a packet with a matching key phase. This ensures that +keys are available to both peers before another can be initiated. + +Once an endpoint has successfully processed a packet with the same key phase, it +can send a KEYS_ACTIVE frame. Endpoints MAY defer sending a KEYS_ACTIVE frame "can" feels very weak. Even if they MAY delay sending, aren't they required to eventually send it? > +{{key-update-initiate}}. An endpoint that responds to a key update MUST send a +KEYS_ACTIVE frame to indicate that it is both sending and receiving with updated +keys, though it MAY defer sending the frame (see {{key-update-old-keys}}). + +An endpoint does not always need to send packets when it detects that its peer +has updated keys. The next packet that it sends use the new keys and include +the KEYS_ACTIVE frame. If an endpoint detects a second update before it has +sent any packets with updated keys or a KEYS_ACTIVE frame, it indicates that its +peer has updated keys twice without awaiting a reciprocal update. An endpoint +MUST treat consecutive key updates as a connection error of type +KEY_UPDATE_ERROR. + +Endpoints responding to an apparent key update MUST NOT generate a timing +side-channel signal that might indicate that the Key Phase bit was invalid (see +{{header-protect-analysis}}). Endpoints can use dummy packet protection keys in +place of discarded keys when key updates are not permitted. If you're going to mention this last, it's probably worth expanding on this a bit. What behavior might generate such a side-channel? How are dummy keys used to emulate normal behavior in those cases? > +place of discarded keys when key updates are not permitted. + + +## Using Old Keys {#key-update-old-keys} + +During a key update, packets protected with older keys might arrive if they were +delayed by the network. If those old keys are available, then they can be used +to remove packet protection. + +After a key update, an endpoint MAY delay sending the KEYS_ACTIVE frame by up to +three times the Probe Timeout (PTO, see {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}) to minimize the +number of active keys it maintains. During this time, an endpoint can use old +keys to process delayed packets rather than enabling a new key update. This +only applies to key updates that use the Key Phase bit; endpoints MUST NOT defer +sending of KEYS_ACTIVE during and immediately after the handshake. + Maybe "after the handshake is complete," assuming that's now a defined term? > +## Using Old Keys {#key-update-old-keys} + +During a key update, packets protected with older keys might arrive if they were +delayed by the network. If those old keys are available, then they can be used +to remove packet protection. + +After a key update, an endpoint MAY delay sending the KEYS_ACTIVE frame by up to +three times the Probe Timeout (PTO, see {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}) to minimize the +number of active keys it maintains. During this time, an endpoint can use old +keys to process delayed packets rather than enabling a new key update. This +only applies to key updates that use the Key Phase bit; endpoints MUST NOT defer +sending of KEYS_ACTIVE during and immediately after the handshake. + +Even if old keys are available, those keys MUST NOT be used to protect packets +with packets that have higher packet numbers than packets that were protected +with newer keys. An endpoint that successfully removes protection with old keys Would it make sense to mandate dropping write keys immediately, but permit retaining read keys? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2237#pullrequestreview-203355408 ----==_mimepart_5c645bcd218d0_61753fa9a54d45c084372 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@MikeBishop commented on this pull request.

From a less-TLS-steeped reader; take the comments for what they're worth. :-)

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> +from the existing write secret as performed in Section 7.2 of {{!TLS13}}.  This
+uses the KDF function provided by TLS with a label of "quic ku".  The
+corresponding key and IV are created from that secret as defined in
+{{protection-keys}}.  The header protection key is not updated.
+
+The endpoint toggles the value of the Key Phase bit, and uses the updated key
+and IV to protect all subsequent packets.
+
+An endpoint MUST NOT initiate a key update prior to having received a
+KEYS_ACTIVE frame in a packet from the current key phase.  A subsequent key
+update can only be performed after the endpoint has successfully processed a
+KEYS_ACTIVE frame from a packet with a matching key phase.  This ensures that
+keys are available to both peers before another can be initiated.
+
+Once an endpoint has successfully processed a packet with the same key phase, it
+can send a KEYS_ACTIVE frame.  Endpoints MAY defer sending a KEYS_ACTIVE frame

"can" feels very weak. Even if they MAY delay sending, aren't they required to eventually send it?

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> +{{key-update-initiate}}.  An endpoint that responds to a key update MUST send a
+KEYS_ACTIVE frame to indicate that it is both sending and receiving with updated
+keys, though it MAY defer sending the frame (see {{key-update-old-keys}}).
+
+An endpoint does not always need to send packets when it detects that its peer
+has updated keys.  The next packet that it sends use the new keys and include
+the KEYS_ACTIVE frame.  If an endpoint detects a second update before it has
+sent any packets with updated keys or a KEYS_ACTIVE frame, it indicates that its
+peer has updated keys twice without awaiting a reciprocal update.  An endpoint
+MUST treat consecutive key updates as a connection error of type
+KEY_UPDATE_ERROR.
+
+Endpoints responding to an apparent key update MUST NOT generate a timing
+side-channel signal that might indicate that the Key Phase bit was invalid (see
+{{header-protect-analysis}}).  Endpoints can use dummy packet protection keys in
+place of discarded keys when key updates are not permitted.

If you're going to mention this last, it's probably worth expanding on this a bit. What behavior might generate such a side-channel? How are dummy keys used to emulate normal behavior in those cases?

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> +place of discarded keys when key updates are not permitted.
+
+
+## Using Old Keys {#key-update-old-keys}
+
+During a key update, packets protected with older keys might arrive if they were
+delayed by the network.  If those old keys are available, then they can be used
+to remove packet protection.
+
+After a key update, an endpoint MAY delay sending the KEYS_ACTIVE frame by up to
+three times the Probe Timeout (PTO, see {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}) to minimize the
+number of active keys it maintains.  During this time, an endpoint can use old
+keys to process delayed packets rather than enabling a new key update.  This
+only applies to key updates that use the Key Phase bit; endpoints MUST NOT defer
+sending of KEYS_ACTIVE during and immediately after the handshake.
+

Maybe "after the handshake is complete," assuming that's now a defined term?

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> +## Using Old Keys {#key-update-old-keys}
+
+During a key update, packets protected with older keys might arrive if they were
+delayed by the network.  If those old keys are available, then they can be used
+to remove packet protection.
+
+After a key update, an endpoint MAY delay sending the KEYS_ACTIVE frame by up to
+three times the Probe Timeout (PTO, see {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}) to minimize the
+number of active keys it maintains.  During this time, an endpoint can use old
+keys to process delayed packets rather than enabling a new key update.  This
+only applies to key updates that use the Key Phase bit; endpoints MUST NOT defer
+sending of KEYS_ACTIVE during and immediately after the handshake.
+
+Even if old keys are available, those keys MUST NOT be used to protect packets
+with packets that have higher packet numbers than packets that were protected
+with newer keys.  An endpoint that successfully removes protection with old keys

Would it make sense to mandate dropping write keys immediately, but permit retaining read keys?

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The issue says that the Tokyo consensus was to recommend that servers check, but not require it. This only says that servers MAY check. Should there be a SHOULD/RECOMMENDED somewhere in here?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4106,6 +4102,12 @@ A client MUST NOT include an original connection ID, a stateless reset token, or
 a preferred address.  A server MUST treat receipt of any of these transport
 parameters as a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR.
 
+max_connection_ids (0x000e):
+
+: The maximum number of connection IDs that the peer is willing to store.
+  This value includes only connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames.
+  If this parameter is absent, a default of 0 is assumed.

Yes, because you might want to rotate CIDs on a connection that isn't actively migrating. Whether you'll survive NAT rebinding depends on the server infrastructure -- a 2-tuple load balancer will survive a port change, but a 4-tuple load balancer can't guarantee it. An IP+port change isn't guaranteed to survive on anything but a CID-aware load balancer.

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----==_mimepart_5c6467a1ee3af_60ba3f9d128d45c02015a7-- From nobody Wed Feb 13 10:54:34 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75516126F72 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2019 10:54:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tzEv8ZpzuyUk for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2019 10:54:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from o5.sgmail.github.com (o5.sgmail.github.com [192.254.113.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9D1AB1200D7 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2019 10:54:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=OBYKFtHcTTuuyFKCmMp1Xjs637c=; b=ig0dJ1xIwZmTC3cw AfqZA5ZJcB43Fpw6uzcNmQb8kn5maAW34rIJX6cq1GE6/QCMoWX6GB0kIfriK/PU H9f1/bQpibI/wjEPS3YDdQm6yvkYOorMM0b8+Kgzy1Pgdsq65zoukHdSOrwBZ4HD iCe39qkRw1lGzXBPRvjNPnNloN4= Received: by filter0366p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0366p1iad2-592-5C6467E4-1F 2019-02-13 18:54:28.424081124 +0000 UTC m=+685515.378407012 Received: from github-lowworker-05ceafd.cp1-iad.github.net (unknown [192.30.252.40]) by ismtpd0012p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id Dg_hGmLCQZqxg6Bekc1W3Q for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2019 18:54:28.434 +0000 (UTC) Received: from github.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by github-lowworker-05ceafd.cp1-iad.github.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67F534608A9 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2019 10:54:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 18:54:28 +0000 (UTC) From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Only applications know what can be retried (#2460) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c6467e465b65_7cd43ff1912d45c0159970"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak1LsbvQxpYw5Allwup7OskhNb6h5z/gyPNJSQ oaEvjU+wcNvIXaUdpBjOezcZynzIz0Vz7NFwm2WtOHv45Kdhy8NKtiZqsJve1cUxrWZLGpp9RA6i9w +Nnk5mQlsZWZvxWxEA9wfK2mfqtbg26lmo2TR9S7CoPNiHZMxRuCJLAFLO9PXW6kGy218ot389w69v I= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 18:54:33 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c6467e465b65_7cd43ff1912d45c0159970 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MikeBishop commented on this pull request. > @@ -2211,7 +2211,9 @@ endpoint. An endpoint that sends packets near the end of the idle timeout period of a peer risks having those packets discarded if its peer enters the draining state before the packets arrive. If a peer could timeout within an Probe Timeout (PTO, see Section 6.2.2 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), it is advisable to -test for liveness before sending any data that cannot be retried safely. +test for liveness before sending any data that cannot be retried safely. Note +that it is likely that only application protocols or using applications will +know what information can be retried. Applications using the application protocol, presumably. For instance, an HTTP library might not really know whether retrying something is safe -- it's the caller of the library that ultimately has to decide. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2460#discussion_r256538772 ----==_mimepart_5c6467e465b65_7cd43ff1912d45c0159970 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2211,7 +2211,9 @@ endpoint.  An endpoint that sends packets near the end of the idle timeout
 period of a peer risks having those packets discarded if its peer enters the
 draining state before the packets arrive.  If a peer could timeout within an
 Probe Timeout (PTO, see Section 6.2.2 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), it is advisable to
-test for liveness before sending any data that cannot be retried safely.
+test for liveness before sending any data that cannot be retried safely.  Note
+that it is likely that only application protocols or using applications will
+know what information can be retried.

Applications using the application protocol, presumably. For instance, an HTTP library might not really know whether retrying something is safe -- it's the caller of the library that ultimately has to decide.

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The choices were odd for a "typical" example

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When an acknowledgement is received, a new RTT is computed and the timer SHOULD be set for twice the newly computed smoothed RTT. -When crypto packets are sent, the sender MUST set a timer for the crypto +Every time a crypto packet is sent, the sender MUST set a timer for the crypto @mikkelfj is this suggestion about a different paragraph? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2456#discussion_r256590875 ----==_mimepart_5c64885796fb4_3c663ff3f56d45c41307a9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -412,7 +412,7 @@ is available, or if the network changes, the initial RTT SHOULD be set to 100ms.
 When an acknowledgement is received, a new RTT is computed and the timer
 SHOULD be set for twice the newly computed smoothed RTT.
 
-When crypto packets are sent, the sender MUST set a timer for the crypto
+Every time a crypto packet is sent, the sender MUST set a timer for the crypto

@mikkelfj is this suggestion about a different paragraph?

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -412,7 +412,7 @@ is available, or if the network changes, the initial RTT SHOULD be set to 100ms.
 When an acknowledgement is received, a new RTT is computed and the timer
 SHOULD be set for twice the newly computed smoothed RTT.
 
-When crypto packets are sent, the sender MUST set a timer for the crypto
+Every time a crypto packet is sent, the sender MUST set a timer for the crypto

yes, I should have been more clear. It is existing text in the preceding paragraph, or thereabout.

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I think it's possible. I think that's what the PR is trying to suggest= is that a server can:

  • enforce limits based on TP to streams-related frames sent using 0-RTT= packets (see #2461)
  • refuse to handle any of the following frames in a 0-RTT packet: ACK, = PATH_RESPONSE, RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID (see #2458)

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A server MUST treat receipt of any of these transport parameters as a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR. +max_connection_ids (0x000e): + +: The maximum number of connection IDs that the peer is willing to store. + This value includes only connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames. The need for reciprocity in most cases that consume a connection ID does tend to lead to the numbers being approximately the same. But it's not symmetric in the sense that they need to be equal. The design is therefore asymmetric. If you consider a client that is moving between networks of questionable quality, they can burn connection IDs on futile probes, leading to greater consumption of connection IDs. That suggests that a client might store more spares than a server. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3981,6 +3979,12 @@ A client MUST NOT include an original connection ID, a stateless reset token, or
 a preferred address.  A server MUST treat receipt of any of these transport
 parameters as a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR.
 
+max_connection_ids (0x000e):
+
+: The maximum number of connection IDs that the peer is willing to store.
+  This value includes only connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames.

The need for reciprocity in most cases that consume a connection ID does tend to lead to the numbers being approximately the same. But it's not symmetric in the sense that they need to be equal. The design is therefore asymmetric.

If you consider a client that is moving between networks of questionable quality, they can burn connection IDs on futile probes, leading to greater consumption of connection IDs. That suggests that a client might store more spares than a server.

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Ugh, this is going to conflict with my other PR now..

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I tend to agree with @ianswett that policing limits here will be annoying, even if it is theoretically possible. Thankfully, we get most of the benefits if only a small number of implementations police limits.

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We'll also mark the ones that are resolved but are pending PRs as has-consensus, right?

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----==_mimepart_5c64ddd7ecb54_62a33f982dcd45c4269d5-- From nobody Wed Feb 13 19:18:23 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8764130EED for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2019 19:18:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.455 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.455 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YwJ-cuGQ2Jr0 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2019 19:18:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7772A12958B for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2019 19:18:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 19:18:20 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550114300; bh=mPcR5LCly/aWA0vtGbZPSyBRGB402JDYl3Eeyc3bUeA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=kR2neyYbvFbomlYuZlHs+KMvRVzsMsRTZREVkgF0bdB8YbceQf7rEz2uOzpld5PJg LCZkNPf/Rz01sL87AkQZCAA4xznOXCQ8fq0NK06xfmvl/DpY9Rzf6mB01Y2dIo/o8b uLzpes8XjROIiNKOo4ECwarkUJJ/71M7PB+/ijmk= From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Describe the two processes. (9f6e285) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c64ddfc7feba_13383fcac04d45c07395b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 03:18:23 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c64ddfc7feba_13383fcac04d45c07395b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit s/issues-list/github issue -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9f6e285ad51c3439d5abd0ba24ad4ecd081c7a25#commitcomment-32312256 ----==_mimepart_5c64ddfc7feba_13383fcac04d45c07395b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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----==_mimepart_5c64ddfc7feba_13383fcac04d45c07395b-- From nobody Wed Feb 13 19:19:45 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CD29130EED for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2019 19:19:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.455 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.455 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A3SwthK14Lan for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2019 19:19:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 72A6412958B for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2019 19:19:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 19:19:40 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550114380; bh=kIQGNrgLX8xduCJnKo5xwyNOAF5poVroSmofaM7Sfqo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=bGItdUEQforcCD7ho2awHIw4TOiz44cjo1tMNalUGYjchxXM8fAUsH6a2yf2ElO6h KUbt8d15emJzXQB1NmlB65fXSh+3TVV4jtYrDmHF7lDwVxoasMwX1IbEPAM1p/t4Ie Ytw+lVCnK4RH0RyAPdAeY9/fXqx25HJ2GAx2EYAw= From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Describe the two processes. (9f6e285) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c64de4c3807a_4cb63f8ee5ad45b852448"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 03:19:43 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c64de4c3807a_4cb63f8ee5ad45b852448 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit typpo: Transporrt -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9f6e285ad51c3439d5abd0ba24ad4ecd081c7a25#commitcomment-32312260 ----==_mimepart_5c64de4c3807a_4cb63f8ee5ad45b852448 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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maybe list draft names here (draft-ietf-quic-http) ?

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editorial nit: merge this para with the one above.

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----==_mimepart_5c64de9fba2b5_1cb83f97438d45b8629fe-- From nobody Wed Feb 13 20:15:42 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7E76130F61 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2019 20:15:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UWtzQkNU8WuQ for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2019 20:15:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9288B130F09 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2019 20:15:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 20:15:36 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550117736; bh=gTam0NjGtWv4Wm4G9+yzkdiNvX4vxCscOE1Z2f9tqXc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=uNJaMbikBPv9sfpA1JfhiPMZ8qzr8qV3XuYbNNV367rXCaZg/0BmhGxfOPCB/YvCJ TxLfwh/MfVlOxLV5MJxuwMbC7vGt+m1i9ojtKK7OufZ/j0Qdy7C6D2CPkhKq30iMyS P72zA/ZXlE9nvBLZMxGApUmsxypsM2edrc+jOGpE= From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rework Key Update (#2237) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c64eb684e9c9_2b7e3fc27e6d45b8461e4"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 04:15:42 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c64eb684e9c9_2b7e3fc27e6d45b8461e4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit janaiyengar commented on this pull request. This is some heavy lifting, thank you for doing it! A few comments. > -The KEY_PHASE bit allows a recipient to detect a change in keying material -without necessarily needing to receive the first packet that triggered the -change. An endpoint that notices a changed KEY_PHASE bit can update keys and -decrypt the packet that contains the changed bit. +The Key Phase bit is used to indicate which packet protection keys are used to ```suggestion The Key Phase bit indicates which packet protection keys are being used to ``` > -The KEY_PHASE bit allows a recipient to detect a change in keying material -without necessarily needing to receive the first packet that triggered the -change. An endpoint that notices a changed KEY_PHASE bit can update keys and -decrypt the packet that contains the changed bit. +The Key Phase bit is used to indicate which packet protection keys are used to +protect the packet. The Key Phase bit is initially set to 0 for the first set +of 1-RTT packets. The Key Phase bit is toggled to signal each key update. ```suggestion of 1-RTT packets and toggled for each subsequent key. ``` > -The KEY_PHASE bit allows a recipient to detect a change in keying material -without necessarily needing to receive the first packet that triggered the -change. An endpoint that notices a changed KEY_PHASE bit can update keys and -decrypt the packet that contains the changed bit. +The Key Phase bit is used to indicate which packet protection keys are used to +protect the packet. The Key Phase bit is initially set to 0 for the first set ```suggestion protect the packet. The Key Phase bit is set to 0 for the first set ``` > -packet with a higher packet number. This is only possible if there is a key -compromise and an attack, or if the peer is incorrectly reverting to use of old -keys. Because the latter cannot be differentiated from an attack, an endpoint -MUST immediately terminate the connection if it detects this condition. + +## Initiating a Key Update {#key-update-initiate} + +Endpoints maintain separate read and write secrets for packet protection. An +endpoint initiates a key update by updating its packet protection write secret +and using that to protect new packets. The endpoint creates a new write secret +from the existing write secret as performed in Section 7.2 of {{!TLS13}}. This +uses the KDF function provided by TLS with a label of "quic ku". The +corresponding key and IV are created from that secret as defined in +{{protection-keys}}. The header protection key is not updated. + +The endpoint toggles the value of the Key Phase bit, and uses the updated key ```suggestion The endpoint toggles the value of the Key Phase bit and uses the updated key ``` > <-------- +... Update to @N +@N [1] QUIC Packets This is a bit confusing. The KEYS_ACTIVE sent above are for @M, right? If so, shouldn't the endpoint send a KEYS_ACTIVE for @N as soon as it updates to the new keys (on line 1133)? > + +An endpoint MUST NOT initiate a key update prior to having received and +successfully processed a KEYS_ACTIVE frame contained in a packet from the +current key phase. This ensures that keys are available to both peers before +another can be initiated. + +Note: + +: Changes in keys from Initial to Handshake and from Handshake to 1-RTT don't + use this key update process. Key changes during the handshake do not need to + wait for a KEYS_ACTIVE frame, they are driven solely by changes in the TLS + handshake. The KEYS_ACTIVE frame is used to allow Initial and Handshake keys + to be discarded when they are no longer needed and - in the case of the first + 1-RTT key phase - to enable the first key update. + +Once an endpoint has successfully processed a packet with the same key phase, it "with the same key phase" as what? > + handshake. The KEYS_ACTIVE frame is used to allow Initial and Handshake keys + to be discarded when they are no longer needed and - in the case of the first + 1-RTT key phase - to enable the first key update. + +Once an endpoint has successfully processed a packet with the same key phase, it +MUST send a KEYS_ACTIVE frame, though endpoints MAY defer sending the frame (see +{{key-update-old-keys}}). + + +## Responding to a Key Update + +An endpoint that sends a KEYS_ACTIVE frame can accept further key updates. A +key update can happen even without seeing a KEYS_ACTIVE frame from the peer. If +a packet is received with a key phase that differs from the value the endpoint +used to protect the packet containing its last KEYS_ACTIVE frame, the endpoint +creates a new packet protection secret for reading and the corresponding key and Is this always the case? If I was using 0, and now start using 1 and send KEYS_ACTIVE with 1, I will continue to receive packets with key phase 0. That doesn't mean I need to create a new secret, since I haven't discarded the previous secret yet, right? > +{{key-update-initiate}}. An endpoint that responds to a key update MUST send a +KEYS_ACTIVE frame to indicate that it is both sending and receiving with updated +keys, though it MAY defer sending the frame (see {{key-update-old-keys}}). + +An endpoint does not always need to send packets when it detects that its peer +has updated keys. The next packet that it sends use the new keys and include +the KEYS_ACTIVE frame. If an endpoint detects a second update before it has +sent any packets with updated keys or a KEYS_ACTIVE frame, it indicates that its +peer has updated keys twice without awaiting a reciprocal update. An endpoint +MUST treat consecutive key updates as a connection error of type +KEY_UPDATE_ERROR. + +Endpoints responding to an apparent key update MUST NOT generate a timing +side-channel signal that might indicate that the Key Phase bit was invalid (see +{{header-protect-analysis}}). Endpoints can use dummy packet protection keys in +place of discarded keys when key updates are not permitted; using dummy keys If this were to happen, wouldn't the connection be closed with a KEY_UPDATE_ERROR? Is there much value in the timing signal at this point? > +delayed by the network. If those old keys are available, then they can be used +to remove packet protection. + +An endpoint always sends packets that are protected with the newest keys. Keys +used for protecting packets that an endpoint sends can be discarded immediately +after newer keys are available. + +After a key update, an endpoint MAY delay sending the KEYS_ACTIVE frame by up to +three times the Probe Timeout (PTO, see {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}) to minimize the +number of active keys it maintains. During this time, an endpoint can use old +keys to process delayed packets rather than enabling a new key update. This +only applies to key updates; endpoints MUST NOT defer sending of KEYS_ACTIVE +during and immediately after the handshake. + +Even if old keys are available, those keys MUST NOT be used to protect packets +with packets that have higher packet numbers than packets that were protected ```suggestion that have higher packet numbers than packets that were protected ``` > +## Using Old Keys {#key-update-old-keys} + +During a key update, packets protected with older keys might arrive if they were +delayed by the network. If those old keys are available, then they can be used +to remove packet protection. + +After a key update, an endpoint MAY delay sending the KEYS_ACTIVE frame by up to +three times the Probe Timeout (PTO, see {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}) to minimize the +number of active keys it maintains. During this time, an endpoint can use old +keys to process delayed packets rather than enabling a new key update. This +only applies to key updates that use the Key Phase bit; endpoints MUST NOT defer +sending of KEYS_ACTIVE during and immediately after the handshake. + +Even if old keys are available, those keys MUST NOT be used to protect packets +with packets that have higher packet numbers than packets that were protected +with newer keys. An endpoint that successfully removes protection with old keys Why? It seems appropriate to close the connection here. > +number of active keys it maintains. During this time, an endpoint can use old +keys to process delayed packets rather than enabling a new key update. This +only applies to key updates; endpoints MUST NOT defer sending of KEYS_ACTIVE +during and immediately after the handshake. + +Even if old keys are available, those keys MUST NOT be used to protect packets +with packets that have higher packet numbers than packets that were protected +with newer keys. An endpoint that successfully removes protection with old keys +when newer keys were used for packets with lower packet numbers MUST treat this +as a connection error of type KEY_UPDATE_ERROR. + +An endpoint SHOULD retain old read keys for a period of no more than three times +the current PTO. After this period, old read keys and their corresponding +secrets SHOULD be discarded. + +An endpoint that receives a packet protected with old keys that includes an Suggestion: "An endpoint that receives an acknowledgement for a packet protected with new keys in a packet protected with older keys MAY treat that as a ..." > @@ -2934,6 +2931,9 @@ containing that information is acknowledged. * PING and PADDING frames contain no information, so lost PING or PADDING frames do not require repair. +* KEYS_ACTIVE frames are sent until acknowledged or until newer keys are used + for sending packets. I'm not sure how this works. If KEYS_ACTIVE is not yet acked, we don't know if the peer has seen this KEYS_UPDATE YET. We therefore cannot assume that the peer can accept another key update, and so this endpoint cannot use newer keys until an ack is received for the previously sent KEYS_UPDATE. If this is correct, you should point this out earlier in "Responding to a Key Update" above as well. > @@ -3414,7 +3414,7 @@ packet type. While type-specific semantics for this version are described in the following sections, several long-header packets in this version of QUIC contain these additional fields: -Reserved Bits (R): +Reserved Bit (R): It's still two bits. > @@ -5012,6 +5017,45 @@ Reason Phrase: This SHOULD be a UTF-8 encoded string {{!RFC3629}}. +## KEYS_ACTIVE Frame {#frame-keys-active} + +An endpoint sends a KEYS_ACTIVE frame (type=0x1e) to signal that it has +installed keys for both sending and receiving packets. Once this frame has been +both sent and received, older keys can be safely discarded. + +The KEYS_ACTIVE frame contains no additional fields. + +The packet that carries a KEYS_ACTIVE frame determines which keys are active and +usable. The keys with the same key phase as those used in the packet that +carries the KEYS_ACTIVE frame are active. + +An endpoint MUST send a KEYS_ACTIVE packet in the first packet it sends using ```suggestion An endpoint MUST send a KEYS_ACTIVE frame in the first packet it sends using ``` > @@ -5012,6 +5017,45 @@ Reason Phrase: This SHOULD be a UTF-8 encoded string {{!RFC3629}}. +## KEYS_ACTIVE Frame {#frame-keys-active} + +An endpoint sends a KEYS_ACTIVE frame (type=0x1e) to signal that it has +installed keys for both sending and receiving packets. Once this frame has been +both sent and received, older keys can be safely discarded. + +The KEYS_ACTIVE frame contains no additional fields. + +The packet that carries a KEYS_ACTIVE frame determines which keys are active and +usable. The keys with the same key phase as those used in the packet that +carries the KEYS_ACTIVE frame are active. + +An endpoint MUST send a KEYS_ACTIVE packet in the first packet it sends using +keys, but only if it is also able to receive packets that are protected using ```suggestion those keys, but only if it is also able to receive packets that are protected using ``` > +both sent and received, older keys can be safely discarded. + +The KEYS_ACTIVE frame contains no additional fields. + +The packet that carries a KEYS_ACTIVE frame determines which keys are active and +usable. The keys with the same key phase as those used in the packet that +carries the KEYS_ACTIVE frame are active. + +An endpoint MUST send a KEYS_ACTIVE packet in the first packet it sends using +keys, but only if it is also able to receive packets that are protected using +the corresponding keys. + +KEYS_ACTIVE frames are retransmitted when declared lost, however implementations +need to take care not to retransmit lost KEYS_ACTIVE frames if they initiate a +subsequent key update. This can happen if an acknowledgment for a packet +containing a KEYS_ACTIVE frame is lost. As I wrote above, I don't understand how this can happen. > + +The packet that carries a KEYS_ACTIVE frame determines which keys are active and +usable. The keys with the same key phase as those used in the packet that +carries the KEYS_ACTIVE frame are active. + +An endpoint MUST send a KEYS_ACTIVE packet in the first packet it sends using +keys, but only if it is also able to receive packets that are protected using +the corresponding keys. + +KEYS_ACTIVE frames are retransmitted when declared lost, however implementations +need to take care not to retransmit lost KEYS_ACTIVE frames if they initiate a +subsequent key update. This can happen if an acknowledgment for a packet +containing a KEYS_ACTIVE frame is lost. + +Endpoints MUST NOT send KEYS_ACTIVE frames in Initial or 0-RTT packets. + I would move these last 3 paras to a new subsection called "Key Updates During the Handshake" in the "Key Update" section above. > +keys, but only if it is also able to receive packets that are protected using +the corresponding keys. + +KEYS_ACTIVE frames are retransmitted when declared lost, however implementations +need to take care not to retransmit lost KEYS_ACTIVE frames if they initiate a +subsequent key update. This can happen if an acknowledgment for a packet +containing a KEYS_ACTIVE frame is lost. + +Endpoints MUST NOT send KEYS_ACTIVE frames in Initial or 0-RTT packets. + +A KEYS_ACTIVE frame used during the handshake can be used to indicate the +availability of Handshake keys by including it in a Handshake packet. An +endpoint sends this frame in its first Handshake packet. Once received, an +endpoint can discard Initial keys. + +A KEYS_ACTIVE frame used after the completion of the handshake in 1-RTT packets ```suggestion A KEYS_ACTIVE frame used in 1-RTT packets immediately after the completion of the handshake ``` (not any time after handshake but immediately after) > +the corresponding keys. + +KEYS_ACTIVE frames are retransmitted when declared lost, however implementations +need to take care not to retransmit lost KEYS_ACTIVE frames if they initiate a +subsequent key update. This can happen if an acknowledgment for a packet +containing a KEYS_ACTIVE frame is lost. + +Endpoints MUST NOT send KEYS_ACTIVE frames in Initial or 0-RTT packets. + +A KEYS_ACTIVE frame used during the handshake can be used to indicate the +availability of Handshake keys by including it in a Handshake packet. An +endpoint sends this frame in its first Handshake packet. Once received, an +endpoint can discard Initial keys. + +A KEYS_ACTIVE frame used after the completion of the handshake in 1-RTT packets +indicates that Handshake keys are no longer needed. A client sends this frame ```suggestion indicates that Handshake keys are no longer needed. A client SHOULD send this frame ``` > + +KEYS_ACTIVE frames are retransmitted when declared lost, however implementations +need to take care not to retransmit lost KEYS_ACTIVE frames if they initiate a +subsequent key update. This can happen if an acknowledgment for a packet +containing a KEYS_ACTIVE frame is lost. + +Endpoints MUST NOT send KEYS_ACTIVE frames in Initial or 0-RTT packets. + +A KEYS_ACTIVE frame used during the handshake can be used to indicate the +availability of Handshake keys by including it in a Handshake packet. An +endpoint sends this frame in its first Handshake packet. Once received, an +endpoint can discard Initial keys. + +A KEYS_ACTIVE frame used after the completion of the handshake in 1-RTT packets +indicates that Handshake keys are no longer needed. A client sends this frame +in its first 1-RTT packet, and a server sends this frame in the first packet it ```suggestion in its first 1-RTT packet, and a server SHOULD send this frame in the first packet it ``` > +KEYS_ACTIVE frames are retransmitted when declared lost, however implementations +need to take care not to retransmit lost KEYS_ACTIVE frames if they initiate a +subsequent key update. This can happen if an acknowledgment for a packet +containing a KEYS_ACTIVE frame is lost. + +Endpoints MUST NOT send KEYS_ACTIVE frames in Initial or 0-RTT packets. + +A KEYS_ACTIVE frame used during the handshake can be used to indicate the +availability of Handshake keys by including it in a Handshake packet. An +endpoint sends this frame in its first Handshake packet. Once received, an +endpoint can discard Initial keys. + +A KEYS_ACTIVE frame used after the completion of the handshake in 1-RTT packets +indicates that Handshake keys are no longer needed. A client sends this frame +in its first 1-RTT packet, and a server sends this frame in the first packet it +sends after completing the handshake. A server might send 1-RTT keys prior to A server never sends 1-RTT keys. I'm not sure what this sentence is trying to say. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2237#pullrequestreview-203548487 ----==_mimepart_5c64eb684e9c9_2b7e3fc27e6d45b8461e4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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This is some heavy lifting, thank you for doing it! A few comments.

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

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>  =0D
-The KEY_PHASE bit allows a recipient to detect a change in keying materi=
al=0D
-without necessarily needing to receive the first packet that triggered t=
he=0D
-change.  An endpoint that notices a changed KEY_PHASE bit can update key=
s and=0D
-decrypt the packet that contains the changed bit.=0D
+The Key Phase bit is used to indicate which packet protection keys are u=
sed to=0D
=0D =E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D 
-The Key Phase bit is used to indicate which p=
acket protection keys are used to=0D
+The Key Phase bit indicates which packet protection keys are being used =
to=0D
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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

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>  =0D
-The KEY_PHASE bit allows a recipient to detect a change in keying materi=
al=0D
-without necessarily needing to receive the first packet that triggered t=
he=0D
-change.  An endpoint that notices a changed KEY_PHASE bit can update key=
s and=0D
-decrypt the packet that contains the changed bit.=0D
+The Key Phase bit is used to indicate which packet protection keys are u=
sed to=0D
+protect the packet.  The Key Phase bit is initially set to 0 for the fir=
st set=0D
+of 1-RTT packets.  The Key Phase bit is toggled to signal each key updat=
e.=0D
=0D =E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D 
-of 1-RTT packets.  The Key Phase bit is toggl=
ed to signal each key update.=0D
+of 1-RTT packets and toggled for each subsequent key.=0D
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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

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>  =0D
-The KEY_PHASE bit allows a recipient to detect a change in keying materi=
al=0D
-without necessarily needing to receive the first packet that triggered t=
he=0D
-change.  An endpoint that notices a changed KEY_PHASE bit can update key=
s and=0D
-decrypt the packet that contains the changed bit.=0D
+The Key Phase bit is used to indicate which packet protection keys are u=
sed to=0D
+protect the packet.  The Key Phase bit is initially set to 0 for the fir=
st set=0D
=0D =E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D 
-protect the packet.  The Key Phase bit is ini=
tially set to 0 for the first set=0D
+protect the packet.  The Key Phase bit is set to 0 for the first set=0D
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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

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> -packet with a higher packet number.  This=
 is only possible if there is a key=0D
-compromise and an attack, or if the peer is incorrectly reverting to use=
 of old=0D
-keys.  Because the latter cannot be differentiated from an attack, an en=
dpoint=0D
-MUST immediately terminate the connection if it detects this condition.=0D=

+=0D
+## Initiating a Key Update {#key-update-initiate}=0D
+=0D
+Endpoints maintain separate read and write secrets for packet protection=
.  An=0D
+endpoint initiates a key update by updating its packet protection write =
secret=0D
+and using that to protect new packets.  The endpoint creates a new write=
 secret=0D
+from the existing write secret as performed in Section 7.2 of {{!TLS13}}=
.  This=0D
+uses the KDF function provided by TLS with a label of "quic ku"=
;.  The=0D
+corresponding key and IV are created from that secret as defined in=0D
+{{protection-keys}}.  The header protection key is not updated.=0D
+=0D
+The endpoint toggles the value of the Key Phase bit, and uses the update=
d key=0D
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-The endpoint toggles the value of the Key Pha=
se bit, and uses the updated key=0D
+The endpoint toggles the value of the Key Phase bit and uses the updated=
 key=0D
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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

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>                        <--------=0D
+... Update to @N=0D
+@N [1] QUIC Packets=0D
=0D

This is a bit confusing. The KEYS_ACTIVE sent above are for @m, right= ? If so, shouldn't the endpoint send a KEYS_ACTIVE for @n as soon as i= t updates to the new keys (on line 1133)?

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

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> +=0D
+An endpoint MUST NOT initiate a key update prior to having received and=0D=

+successfully processed a KEYS_ACTIVE frame contained in a packet from th=
e=0D
+current key phase.  This ensures that keys are available to both peers b=
efore=0D
+another can be initiated.=0D
+=0D
+Note:=0D
+=0D
+: Changes in keys from Initial to Handshake and from Handshake to 1-RTT =
don't=0D
+  use this key update process. Key changes during the handshake do not n=
eed to=0D
+  wait for a KEYS_ACTIVE frame, they are driven solely by changes in the=
 TLS=0D
+  handshake.  The KEYS_ACTIVE frame is used to allow Initial and Handsha=
ke keys=0D
+  to be discarded when they are no longer needed and - in the case of th=
e first=0D
+  1-RTT key phase - to enable the first key update.=0D
+=0D
+Once an endpoint has successfully processed a packet with the same key p=
hase, it=0D
=0D

"with the same key phase" as what?

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

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> +  handshake.  The KEYS_ACTIVE frame is us=
ed to allow Initial and Handshake keys=0D
+  to be discarded when they are no longer needed and - in the case of th=
e first=0D
+  1-RTT key phase - to enable the first key update.=0D
+=0D
+Once an endpoint has successfully processed a packet with the same key p=
hase, it=0D
+MUST send a KEYS_ACTIVE frame, though endpoints MAY defer sending the fr=
ame (see=0D
+{{key-update-old-keys}}).=0D
+=0D
+=0D
+## Responding to a Key Update=0D
+=0D
+An endpoint that sends a KEYS_ACTIVE frame can accept further key update=
s.  A=0D
+key update can happen even without seeing a KEYS_ACTIVE frame from the p=
eer.  If=0D
+a packet is received with a key phase that differs from the value the en=
dpoint=0D
+used to protect the packet containing its last KEYS_ACTIVE frame, the en=
dpoint=0D
+creates a new packet protection secret for reading and the corresponding=
 key and=0D
=0D

Is this always the case? If I was using 0, and now start using 1 and s= end KEYS_ACTIVE with 1, I will continue to receive packets with key phase= 0. That doesn't mean I need to create a new secret, since I haven't disc= arded the previous secret yet, right?

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

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> +{{key-update-initiate}}.  An endpoint tha=
t responds to a key update MUST send a=0D
+KEYS_ACTIVE frame to indicate that it is both sending and receiving with=
 updated=0D
+keys, though it MAY defer sending the frame (see {{key-update-old-keys}}=
).=0D
+=0D
+An endpoint does not always need to send packets when it detects that it=
s peer=0D
+has updated keys.  The next packet that it sends use the new keys and in=
clude=0D
+the KEYS_ACTIVE frame.  If an endpoint detects a second update before it=
 has=0D
+sent any packets with updated keys or a KEYS_ACTIVE frame, it indicates =
that its=0D
+peer has updated keys twice without awaiting a reciprocal update.  An en=
dpoint=0D
+MUST treat consecutive key updates as a connection error of type=0D
+KEY_UPDATE_ERROR.=0D
+=0D
+Endpoints responding to an apparent key update MUST NOT generate a timin=
g=0D
+side-channel signal that might indicate that the Key Phase bit was inval=
id (see=0D
+{{header-protect-analysis}}).  Endpoints can use dummy packet protection=
 keys in=0D
+place of discarded keys when key updates are not permitted; using dummy =
keys=0D
=0D

If this were to happen, wouldn't the connection be closed with a KEY_U= PDATE_ERROR? Is there much value in the timing signal at this point?

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

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> +delayed by the network.  If those old key=
s are available, then they can be used=0D
+to remove packet protection.=0D
+=0D
+An endpoint always sends packets that are protected with the newest keys=
.  Keys=0D
+used for protecting packets that an endpoint sends can be discarded imme=
diately=0D
+after newer keys are available.=0D
+=0D
+After a key update, an endpoint MAY delay sending the KEYS_ACTIVE frame =
by up to=0D
+three times the Probe Timeout (PTO, see {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}) to minimize t=
he=0D
+number of active keys it maintains.  During this time, an endpoint can u=
se old=0D
+keys to process delayed packets rather than enabling a new key update.  =
This=0D
+only applies to key updates; endpoints MUST NOT defer sending of KEYS_AC=
TIVE=0D
+during and immediately after the handshake.=0D
+=0D
+Even if old keys are available, those keys MUST NOT be used to protect p=
ackets=0D
+with packets that have higher packet numbers than packets that were prot=
ected=0D
=0D =E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D 
-with packets that have higher packet numbers =
than packets that were protected=0D
+that have higher packet numbers than packets that were protected=0D
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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

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> +## Using Old Keys {#key-update-old-keys}=0D=

+=0D
+During a key update, packets protected with older keys might arrive if t=
hey were=0D
+delayed by the network.  If those old keys are available, then they can =
be used=0D
+to remove packet protection.=0D
+=0D
+After a key update, an endpoint MAY delay sending the KEYS_ACTIVE frame =
by up to=0D
+three times the Probe Timeout (PTO, see {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}) to minimize t=
he=0D
+number of active keys it maintains.  During this time, an endpoint can u=
se old=0D
+keys to process delayed packets rather than enabling a new key update.  =
This=0D
+only applies to key updates that use the Key Phase bit; endpoints MUST N=
OT defer=0D
+sending of KEYS_ACTIVE during and immediately after the handshake.=0D
+=0D
+Even if old keys are available, those keys MUST NOT be used to protect p=
ackets=0D
+with packets that have higher packet numbers than packets that were prot=
ected=0D
+with newer keys.  An endpoint that successfully removes protection with =
old keys=0D
=0D

Why? It seems appropriate to close the connection here.

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

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> +number of active keys it maintains.  Duri=
ng this time, an endpoint can use old=0D
+keys to process delayed packets rather than enabling a new key update.  =
This=0D
+only applies to key updates; endpoints MUST NOT defer sending of KEYS_AC=
TIVE=0D
+during and immediately after the handshake.=0D
+=0D
+Even if old keys are available, those keys MUST NOT be used to protect p=
ackets=0D
+with packets that have higher packet numbers than packets that were prot=
ected=0D
+with newer keys.  An endpoint that successfully removes protection with =
old keys=0D
+when newer keys were used for packets with lower packet numbers MUST tre=
at this=0D
+as a connection error of type KEY_UPDATE_ERROR.=0D
+=0D
+An endpoint SHOULD retain old read keys for a period of no more than thr=
ee times=0D
+the current PTO.  After this period, old read keys and their correspondi=
ng=0D
+secrets SHOULD be discarded.=0D
+=0D
+An endpoint that receives a packet protected with old keys that includes=
 an=0D
=0D

Suggestion: "An endpoint that receives an acknowledgement for a packet= protected with new keys in a packet protected with older keys MAY treat = that as a ..."

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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> @@ -2934,6 +2931,9 @@ containing that info=
rmation is acknowledged.=0D
 * PING and PADDING frames contain no information, so lost PING or PADDIN=
G frames=0D
   do not require repair.=0D
 =0D
+* KEYS_ACTIVE frames are sent until acknowledged or until newer keys are=
 used=0D
+  for sending packets.=0D
=0D

I'm not sure how this works. If KEYS_ACTIVE is not yet acked, we don't= know if the peer has seen this KEYS_UPDATE YET. We therefore cannot ass= ume that the peer can accept another key update, and so this endpoint can= not use newer keys until an ack is received for the previously sent KEYS_= UPDATE.

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If this is correct, you should point this out earlier in "Responding t= o a Key Update" above as well.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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> @@ -3414,7 +3414,7 @@ packet type.  While =
type-specific semantics for this version are described in=0D
 the following sections, several long-header packets in this version of Q=
UIC=0D
 contain these additional fields:=0D
 =0D
-Reserved Bits (R):=0D
+Reserved Bit (R):=0D
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It's still two bits.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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> @@ -5012,6 +5017,45 @@ Reason Phrase:=0D
   This SHOULD be a UTF-8 encoded string {{!RFC3629}}.=0D
 =0D
 =0D
+## KEYS_ACTIVE Frame {#frame-keys-active}=0D
+=0D
+An endpoint sends a KEYS_ACTIVE frame (type=3D0x1e) to signal that it ha=
s=0D
+installed keys for both sending and receiving packets.  Once this frame =
has been=0D
+both sent and received, older keys can be safely discarded.=0D
+=0D
+The KEYS_ACTIVE frame contains no additional fields.=0D
+=0D
+The packet that carries a KEYS_ACTIVE frame determines which keys are ac=
tive and=0D
+usable.  The keys with the same key phase as those used in the packet th=
at=0D
+carries the KEYS_ACTIVE frame are active.=0D
+=0D
+An endpoint MUST send a KEYS_ACTIVE packet in the first packet it sends =
using=0D
=0D =E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D 
-An endpoint MUST send a KEYS_ACTIVE packet in=
 the first packet it sends using=0D
+An endpoint MUST send a KEYS_ACTIVE frame in the first packet it sends u=
sing=0D
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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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> @@ -5012,6 +5017,45 @@ Reason Phrase:=0D
   This SHOULD be a UTF-8 encoded string {{!RFC3629}}.=0D
 =0D
 =0D
+## KEYS_ACTIVE Frame {#frame-keys-active}=0D
+=0D
+An endpoint sends a KEYS_ACTIVE frame (type=3D0x1e) to signal that it ha=
s=0D
+installed keys for both sending and receiving packets.  Once this frame =
has been=0D
+both sent and received, older keys can be safely discarded.=0D
+=0D
+The KEYS_ACTIVE frame contains no additional fields.=0D
+=0D
+The packet that carries a KEYS_ACTIVE frame determines which keys are ac=
tive and=0D
+usable.  The keys with the same key phase as those used in the packet th=
at=0D
+carries the KEYS_ACTIVE frame are active.=0D
+=0D
+An endpoint MUST send a KEYS_ACTIVE packet in the first packet it sends =
using=0D
+keys, but only if it is also able to receive packets that are protected =
using=0D
=0D =E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D 
-keys, but only if it is also able to receive =
packets that are protected using=0D
+those keys, but only if it is also able to receive packets that are prot=
ected using=0D
=0D =0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

=0D 
> +both sent and received, older keys can be=
 safely discarded.=0D
+=0D
+The KEYS_ACTIVE frame contains no additional fields.=0D
+=0D
+The packet that carries a KEYS_ACTIVE frame determines which keys are ac=
tive and=0D
+usable.  The keys with the same key phase as those used in the packet th=
at=0D
+carries the KEYS_ACTIVE frame are active.=0D
+=0D
+An endpoint MUST send a KEYS_ACTIVE packet in the first packet it sends =
using=0D
+keys, but only if it is also able to receive packets that are protected =
using=0D
+the corresponding keys.=0D
+=0D
+KEYS_ACTIVE frames are retransmitted when declared lost, however impleme=
ntations=0D
+need to take care not to retransmit lost KEYS_ACTIVE frames if they init=
iate a=0D
+subsequent key update.  This can happen if an acknowledgment for a packe=
t=0D
+containing a KEYS_ACTIVE frame is lost.=0D
=0D

As I wrote above, I don't understand how this can happen.

=0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

=0D 
> +=0D
+The packet that carries a KEYS_ACTIVE frame determines which keys are ac=
tive and=0D
+usable.  The keys with the same key phase as those used in the packet th=
at=0D
+carries the KEYS_ACTIVE frame are active.=0D
+=0D
+An endpoint MUST send a KEYS_ACTIVE packet in the first packet it sends =
using=0D
+keys, but only if it is also able to receive packets that are protected =
using=0D
+the corresponding keys.=0D
+=0D
+KEYS_ACTIVE frames are retransmitted when declared lost, however impleme=
ntations=0D
+need to take care not to retransmit lost KEYS_ACTIVE frames if they init=
iate a=0D
+subsequent key update.  This can happen if an acknowledgment for a packe=
t=0D
+containing a KEYS_ACTIVE frame is lost.=0D
+=0D
+Endpoints MUST NOT send KEYS_ACTIVE frames in Initial or 0-RTT packets.=0D=

+=0D
=0D

I would move these last 3 paras to a new subsection called "Key Update= s During the Handshake" in the "Key Update" section above.

=0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

=0D 
> +keys, but only if it is also able to rece=
ive packets that are protected using=0D
+the corresponding keys.=0D
+=0D
+KEYS_ACTIVE frames are retransmitted when declared lost, however impleme=
ntations=0D
+need to take care not to retransmit lost KEYS_ACTIVE frames if they init=
iate a=0D
+subsequent key update.  This can happen if an acknowledgment for a packe=
t=0D
+containing a KEYS_ACTIVE frame is lost.=0D
+=0D
+Endpoints MUST NOT send KEYS_ACTIVE frames in Initial or 0-RTT packets.=0D=

+=0D
+A KEYS_ACTIVE frame used during the handshake can be used to indicate th=
e=0D
+availability of Handshake keys by including it in a Handshake packet.  A=
n=0D
+endpoint sends this frame in its first Handshake packet.  Once received,=
 an=0D
+endpoint can discard Initial keys.=0D
+=0D
+A KEYS_ACTIVE frame used after the completion of the handshake in 1-RTT =
packets=0D
=0D =E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D 
-A KEYS_ACTIVE frame used after the completion=
 of the handshake in 1-RTT packets=0D
+A KEYS_ACTIVE frame used in 1-RTT packets immediately after the completi=
on of the handshake=0D
=0D =0D

(not any time after handshake but immediately after)

=0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

=0D 
> +the corresponding keys.=0D
+=0D
+KEYS_ACTIVE frames are retransmitted when declared lost, however impleme=
ntations=0D
+need to take care not to retransmit lost KEYS_ACTIVE frames if they init=
iate a=0D
+subsequent key update.  This can happen if an acknowledgment for a packe=
t=0D
+containing a KEYS_ACTIVE frame is lost.=0D
+=0D
+Endpoints MUST NOT send KEYS_ACTIVE frames in Initial or 0-RTT packets.=0D=

+=0D
+A KEYS_ACTIVE frame used during the handshake can be used to indicate th=
e=0D
+availability of Handshake keys by including it in a Handshake packet.  A=
n=0D
+endpoint sends this frame in its first Handshake packet.  Once received,=
 an=0D
+endpoint can discard Initial keys.=0D
+=0D
+A KEYS_ACTIVE frame used after the completion of the handshake in 1-RTT =
packets=0D
+indicates that Handshake keys are no longer needed.  A client sends this=
 frame=0D
=0D =E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D 
-indicates that Handshake keys are no longer n=
eeded.  A client sends this frame=0D
+indicates that Handshake keys are no longer needed.  A client SHOULD sen=
d this frame=0D
=0D =0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

=0D 
> +=0D
+KEYS_ACTIVE frames are retransmitted when declared lost, however impleme=
ntations=0D
+need to take care not to retransmit lost KEYS_ACTIVE frames if they init=
iate a=0D
+subsequent key update.  This can happen if an acknowledgment for a packe=
t=0D
+containing a KEYS_ACTIVE frame is lost.=0D
+=0D
+Endpoints MUST NOT send KEYS_ACTIVE frames in Initial or 0-RTT packets.=0D=

+=0D
+A KEYS_ACTIVE frame used during the handshake can be used to indicate th=
e=0D
+availability of Handshake keys by including it in a Handshake packet.  A=
n=0D
+endpoint sends this frame in its first Handshake packet.  Once received,=
 an=0D
+endpoint can discard Initial keys.=0D
+=0D
+A KEYS_ACTIVE frame used after the completion of the handshake in 1-RTT =
packets=0D
+indicates that Handshake keys are no longer needed.  A client sends this=
 frame=0D
+in its first 1-RTT packet, and a server sends this frame in the first pa=
cket it=0D
=0D =E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D 
-in its first 1-RTT packet, and a server sends=
 this frame in the first packet it=0D
+in its first 1-RTT packet, and a server SHOULD send this frame in the fi=
rst packet it=0D
=0D =0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

=0D 
> +KEYS_ACTIVE frames are retransmitted when=
 declared lost, however implementations=0D
+need to take care not to retransmit lost KEYS_ACTIVE frames if they init=
iate a=0D
+subsequent key update.  This can happen if an acknowledgment for a packe=
t=0D
+containing a KEYS_ACTIVE frame is lost.=0D
+=0D
+Endpoints MUST NOT send KEYS_ACTIVE frames in Initial or 0-RTT packets.=0D=

+=0D
+A KEYS_ACTIVE frame used during the handshake can be used to indicate th=
e=0D
+availability of Handshake keys by including it in a Handshake packet.  A=
n=0D
+endpoint sends this frame in its first Handshake packet.  Once received,=
 an=0D
+endpoint can discard Initial keys.=0D
+=0D
+A KEYS_ACTIVE frame used after the completion of the handshake in 1-RTT =
packets=0D
+indicates that Handshake keys are no longer needed.  A client sends this=
 frame=0D
+in its first 1-RTT packet, and a server sends this frame in the first pa=
cket it=0D
+sends after completing the handshake.  A server might send 1-RTT keys pr=
ior to=0D
=0D

A server never sends 1-RTT keys. I'm not sure what this sentence is tr= ying to say.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -506,9 +506,10 @@ delay sending an acknowledgement.
 The PTO value MUST be set to at least kGranularity, to avoid the timer expiring
 immediately.
 
-When a PTO timer expires, the PTO period MUST be set to twice its current value.
-This exponential reduction in the sender's rate is important because the PTOs
-might be caused by loss of packets or acknowledgements due to severe congestion.
+When a PTO timer expires, the sender probes the network as described in the next
+section. The PTO period MUST be set to twice its current value. This exponential
+reduction in the sender's rate is important because the PTOs might be caused by

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----==_mimepart_5c64f69483cf3_26e13fae3d0d45b4194294-- From nobody Wed Feb 13 21:40:23 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 709AD130FE9 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2019 21:40:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OCw3ALXSLhDm for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2019 21:40:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-11.smtp.github.com (out-11.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 72F77130FE8 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2019 21:40:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 21:40:18 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550122818; bh=yBLLDpjaQDCErKw9DEHBj0bciJG7gxBXw40b1aziM38=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=fGtiKWpt8JxoupdXB9/p0FnKAfbYXcTcXXmXaL6rj+pXe0oKn/G+jXZ5oTNdlds0S oO2dwmWjihj7yEfbF6j9lWdP2R2+XAZ3iwjevOepj8oULLAYIoNx/gOexXldN3+zjY ndJ3wYxdxpyTQswefP/qF1W0calaVRnknf9RCJdg= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rework Key Update (#2237) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c64ff428d725_42543fcaa9cd45c016599b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 05:40:22 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c64ff428d725_42543fcaa9cd45c016599b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson commented on this pull request. > +corresponding key and IV are created from that secret as defined in +{{protection-keys}}. The header protection key is not updated. + +The endpoint toggles the value of the Key Phase bit, and uses the updated key +and IV to protect all subsequent packets. + +An endpoint MUST NOT initiate a key update prior to having received a +KEYS_ACTIVE frame in a packet from the current key phase. A subsequent key +update can only be performed after the endpoint has successfully processed a +KEYS_ACTIVE frame from a packet with a matching key phase. This ensures that +keys are available to both peers before another can be initiated. + +Once an endpoint has successfully processed a packet with the same key phase, it +can send a KEYS_ACTIVE frame. Endpoints MAY defer sending a KEYS_ACTIVE frame +after a key update (see {{key-update-old-keys}}). + I've added a note about the handshake to clear that up. Logically, they are the same, but there is nothing to be gained by delaying the signal, or by requiring that the signal be used before a key change can be made. > +## Responding to a Key Update + +An endpoint that sends a KEYS_ACTIVE frame can accept further key updates. A +key update can happen even without seeing a KEYS_ACTIVE frame from the peer. If +a packet is received with a key phase that differs from the value the endpoint +used to protect the packet containing its last KEYS_ACTIVE frame, the endpoint +creates a new packet protection secret for reading and the corresponding key and +IV. An endpoint uses the same key derivation process as its peer uses to +generate keys for receiving. + +If the packet protection is successfully removed using the updated key and IV, +then the keys the endpoint initiates a key update in response, as described in +{{key-update-initiate}}. An endpoint that responds to a key update MUST send a +KEYS_ACTIVE frame to indicate that it is both sending and receiving with updated +keys, though it MAY defer sending the frame (see {{key-update-old-keys}}). + No difference intended. I've tried to even this out. > +{{key-update-initiate}}. An endpoint that responds to a key update MUST send a +KEYS_ACTIVE frame to indicate that it is both sending and receiving with updated +keys, though it MAY defer sending the frame (see {{key-update-old-keys}}). + +An endpoint does not always need to send packets when it detects that its peer +has updated keys. The next packet that it sends use the new keys and include +the KEYS_ACTIVE frame. If an endpoint detects a second update before it has +sent any packets with updated keys or a KEYS_ACTIVE frame, it indicates that its +peer has updated keys twice without awaiting a reciprocal update. An endpoint +MUST treat consecutive key updates as a connection error of type +KEY_UPDATE_ERROR. + +Endpoints responding to an apparent key update MUST NOT generate a timing +side-channel signal that might indicate that the Key Phase bit was invalid (see +{{header-protect-analysis}}). Endpoints can use dummy packet protection keys in +place of discarded keys when key updates are not permitted. Text added. > +place of discarded keys when key updates are not permitted. + + +## Using Old Keys {#key-update-old-keys} + +During a key update, packets protected with older keys might arrive if they were +delayed by the network. If those old keys are available, then they can be used +to remove packet protection. + +After a key update, an endpoint MAY delay sending the KEYS_ACTIVE frame by up to +three times the Probe Timeout (PTO, see {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}) to minimize the +number of active keys it maintains. During this time, an endpoint can use old +keys to process delayed packets rather than enabling a new key update. This +only applies to key updates that use the Key Phase bit; endpoints MUST NOT defer +sending of KEYS_ACTIVE during and immediately after the handshake. + I've tried very hard to separate key update as a concept from the key changes that happen during the handshake. So I'll remove the 'that use the Key Phase bit' part. > +## Using Old Keys {#key-update-old-keys} + +During a key update, packets protected with older keys might arrive if they were +delayed by the network. If those old keys are available, then they can be used +to remove packet protection. + +After a key update, an endpoint MAY delay sending the KEYS_ACTIVE frame by up to +three times the Probe Timeout (PTO, see {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}) to minimize the +number of active keys it maintains. During this time, an endpoint can use old +keys to process delayed packets rather than enabling a new key update. This +only applies to key updates that use the Key Phase bit; endpoints MUST NOT defer +sending of KEYS_ACTIVE during and immediately after the handshake. + +Even if old keys are available, those keys MUST NOT be used to protect packets +with packets that have higher packet numbers than packets that were protected +with newer keys. An endpoint that successfully removes protection with old keys I don't want to mandate dropping keys so directly, but I will mention that it is possible. Note that there are cases during the handshake where write keys for different packet number spaces need to be kept. So this would be limited to key update. > @@ -1259,15 +1259,13 @@ Client Server Initial[0]: CRYPTO[CH] -> Initial[0]: CRYPTO[SH] ACK[0] - Handshake[0]: CRYPTO[EE, CERT, CV, FIN] + Handshake[0]: KEYS_ACTIVE, CRYPTO[EE, CERT, CV, FIN] <- 1-RTT[0]: STREAM[1, "..."] Yes, this is the logic. I had to tweak the description of the frame to account for that though... > <-------- +... Update to @N +@N [1] QUIC Packets During a key update, the initiator doesn't update until it receives a packet in the new keys. If we sent the frame in the first packet we'd get the simultaneous update problem. That makes me a little more receptive to the idea that @kazuho suggests on the mailing list, but not much more. Having special rules for Handshake isn't a huge burden. p.s., I'm sure that github users `@M` and `@N` get pinged all the time. > +{{key-update-initiate}}. An endpoint that responds to a key update MUST send a +KEYS_ACTIVE frame to indicate that it is both sending and receiving with updated +keys, though it MAY defer sending the frame (see {{key-update-old-keys}}). + +An endpoint does not always need to send packets when it detects that its peer +has updated keys. The next packet that it sends use the new keys and include +the KEYS_ACTIVE frame. If an endpoint detects a second update before it has +sent any packets with updated keys or a KEYS_ACTIVE frame, it indicates that its +peer has updated keys twice without awaiting a reciprocal update. An endpoint +MUST treat consecutive key updates as a connection error of type +KEY_UPDATE_ERROR. + +Endpoints responding to an apparent key update MUST NOT generate a timing +side-channel signal that might indicate that the Key Phase bit was invalid (see +{{header-protect-analysis}}). Endpoints can use dummy packet protection keys in +place of discarded keys when key updates are not permitted; using dummy keys No. Because packets can be injected. > @@ -2934,6 +2931,9 @@ containing that information is acknowledged. * PING and PADDING frames contain no information, so lost PING or PADDING frames do not require repair. +* KEYS_ACTIVE frames are sent until acknowledged or until newer keys are used + for sending packets. It is correct. Interesting observation: If your KEYS_ACTIVE got through and you don't see the ACK before your peer updates again, then you can just retransmit, but it's a different frame at that point. That suggests that maybe you don't need to worry about stopping retransmission for KEYS_ACTIVE. The sender can always update, and the sender of a packet with new keys containing KEYS_ACTIVE is always receptive to a key update. Technically however, KEYS_ACTIVE sent in those circumstances has different semantics, so the text is correct as is. > +both sent and received, older keys can be safely discarded. + +The KEYS_ACTIVE frame contains no additional fields. + +The packet that carries a KEYS_ACTIVE frame determines which keys are active and +usable. The keys with the same key phase as those used in the packet that +carries the KEYS_ACTIVE frame are active. + +An endpoint MUST send a KEYS_ACTIVE packet in the first packet it sends using +keys, but only if it is also able to receive packets that are protected using +the corresponding keys. + +KEYS_ACTIVE frames are retransmitted when declared lost, however implementations +need to take care not to retransmit lost KEYS_ACTIVE frames if they initiate a +subsequent key update. This can happen if an acknowledgment for a packet +containing a KEYS_ACTIVE frame is lost. Say I initiate an update. I receive a KEYS_ACTIVE in an updated packet. At this point, I am expected to start sending KEYS_ACTIVE. But I can also initiate another key update. If I initiate a key update, which I can do without sending any more packets, then I MUST NOT send a KEYS_ACTIVE in that packet, because that leaves me open to a double update from my peer. > + +KEYS_ACTIVE frames are retransmitted when declared lost, however implementations +need to take care not to retransmit lost KEYS_ACTIVE frames if they initiate a +subsequent key update. This can happen if an acknowledgment for a packet +containing a KEYS_ACTIVE frame is lost. + +Endpoints MUST NOT send KEYS_ACTIVE frames in Initial or 0-RTT packets. + +A KEYS_ACTIVE frame used during the handshake can be used to indicate the +availability of Handshake keys by including it in a Handshake packet. An +endpoint sends this frame in its first Handshake packet. Once received, an +endpoint can discard Initial keys. + +A KEYS_ACTIVE frame used after the completion of the handshake in 1-RTT packets +indicates that Handshake keys are no longer needed. A client sends this frame +in its first 1-RTT packet, and a server sends this frame in the first packet it I'm going with MUST. > +KEYS_ACTIVE frames are retransmitted when declared lost, however implementations +need to take care not to retransmit lost KEYS_ACTIVE frames if they initiate a +subsequent key update. This can happen if an acknowledgment for a packet +containing a KEYS_ACTIVE frame is lost. + +Endpoints MUST NOT send KEYS_ACTIVE frames in Initial or 0-RTT packets. + +A KEYS_ACTIVE frame used during the handshake can be used to indicate the +availability of Handshake keys by including it in a Handshake packet. An +endpoint sends this frame in its first Handshake packet. Once received, an +endpoint can discard Initial keys. + +A KEYS_ACTIVE frame used after the completion of the handshake in 1-RTT packets +indicates that Handshake keys are no longer needed. A client sends this frame +in its first 1-RTT packet, and a server sends this frame in the first packet it +sends after completing the handshake. A server might send 1-RTT keys prior to Oops, I meant packets. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2237#discussion_r256660837 ----==_mimepart_5c64ff428d725_42543fcaa9cd45c016599b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> +corresponding key and IV are created from that secret as defined in
+{{protection-keys}}.  The header protection key is not updated.
+
+The endpoint toggles the value of the Key Phase bit, and uses the updated key
+and IV to protect all subsequent packets.
+
+An endpoint MUST NOT initiate a key update prior to having received a
+KEYS_ACTIVE frame in a packet from the current key phase.  A subsequent key
+update can only be performed after the endpoint has successfully processed a
+KEYS_ACTIVE frame from a packet with a matching key phase.  This ensures that
+keys are available to both peers before another can be initiated.
+
+Once an endpoint has successfully processed a packet with the same key phase, it
+can send a KEYS_ACTIVE frame.  Endpoints MAY defer sending a KEYS_ACTIVE frame
+after a key update (see {{key-update-old-keys}}).
+

I've added a note about the handshake to clear that up. Logically, they are the same, but there is nothing to be gained by delaying the signal, or by requiring that the signal be used before a key change can be made.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> +## Responding to a Key Update
+
+An endpoint that sends a KEYS_ACTIVE frame can accept further key updates.  A
+key update can happen even without seeing a KEYS_ACTIVE frame from the peer.  If
+a packet is received with a key phase that differs from the value the endpoint
+used to protect the packet containing its last KEYS_ACTIVE frame, the endpoint
+creates a new packet protection secret for reading and the corresponding key and
+IV.  An endpoint uses the same key derivation process as its peer uses to
+generate keys for receiving.
+
+If the packet protection is successfully removed using the updated key and IV,
+then the keys the endpoint initiates a key update in response, as described in
+{{key-update-initiate}}.  An endpoint that responds to a key update MUST send a
+KEYS_ACTIVE frame to indicate that it is both sending and receiving with updated
+keys, though it MAY defer sending the frame (see {{key-update-old-keys}}).
+

No difference intended. I've tried to even this out.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> +{{key-update-initiate}}.  An endpoint that responds to a key update MUST send a
+KEYS_ACTIVE frame to indicate that it is both sending and receiving with updated
+keys, though it MAY defer sending the frame (see {{key-update-old-keys}}).
+
+An endpoint does not always need to send packets when it detects that its peer
+has updated keys.  The next packet that it sends use the new keys and include
+the KEYS_ACTIVE frame.  If an endpoint detects a second update before it has
+sent any packets with updated keys or a KEYS_ACTIVE frame, it indicates that its
+peer has updated keys twice without awaiting a reciprocal update.  An endpoint
+MUST treat consecutive key updates as a connection error of type
+KEY_UPDATE_ERROR.
+
+Endpoints responding to an apparent key update MUST NOT generate a timing
+side-channel signal that might indicate that the Key Phase bit was invalid (see
+{{header-protect-analysis}}).  Endpoints can use dummy packet protection keys in
+place of discarded keys when key updates are not permitted.

Text added.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> +place of discarded keys when key updates are not permitted.
+
+
+## Using Old Keys {#key-update-old-keys}
+
+During a key update, packets protected with older keys might arrive if they were
+delayed by the network.  If those old keys are available, then they can be used
+to remove packet protection.
+
+After a key update, an endpoint MAY delay sending the KEYS_ACTIVE frame by up to
+three times the Probe Timeout (PTO, see {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}) to minimize the
+number of active keys it maintains.  During this time, an endpoint can use old
+keys to process delayed packets rather than enabling a new key update.  This
+only applies to key updates that use the Key Phase bit; endpoints MUST NOT defer
+sending of KEYS_ACTIVE during and immediately after the handshake.
+

I've tried very hard to separate key update as a concept from the key changes that happen during the handshake. So I'll remove the 'that use the Key Phase bit' part.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> +## Using Old Keys {#key-update-old-keys}
+
+During a key update, packets protected with older keys might arrive if they were
+delayed by the network.  If those old keys are available, then they can be used
+to remove packet protection.
+
+After a key update, an endpoint MAY delay sending the KEYS_ACTIVE frame by up to
+three times the Probe Timeout (PTO, see {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}) to minimize the
+number of active keys it maintains.  During this time, an endpoint can use old
+keys to process delayed packets rather than enabling a new key update.  This
+only applies to key updates that use the Key Phase bit; endpoints MUST NOT defer
+sending of KEYS_ACTIVE during and immediately after the handshake.
+
+Even if old keys are available, those keys MUST NOT be used to protect packets
+with packets that have higher packet numbers than packets that were protected
+with newer keys.  An endpoint that successfully removes protection with old keys

I don't want to mandate dropping keys so directly, but I will mention that it is possible. Note that there are cases during the handshake where write keys for different packet number spaces need to be kept. So this would be limited to key update.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1259,15 +1259,13 @@ Client                                                  Server
 Initial[0]: CRYPTO[CH] ->
 
                                  Initial[0]: CRYPTO[SH] ACK[0]
-                       Handshake[0]: CRYPTO[EE, CERT, CV, FIN]
+           Handshake[0]: KEYS_ACTIVE, CRYPTO[EE, CERT, CV, FIN]
                                  <- 1-RTT[0]: STREAM[1, "..."]

Yes, this is the logic. I had to tweak the description of the frame to account for that though...

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>                        <--------
+... Update to @N
+@N [1] QUIC Packets

During a key update, the initiator doesn't update until it receives a packet in the new keys. If we sent the frame in the first packet we'd get the simultaneous update problem.

That makes me a little more receptive to the idea that @kazuho suggests on the mailing list, but not much more. Having special rules for Handshake isn't a huge burden.

p.s., I'm sure that github users @M and @N get pinged all the time.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> +{{key-update-initiate}}.  An endpoint that responds to a key update MUST send a
+KEYS_ACTIVE frame to indicate that it is both sending and receiving with updated
+keys, though it MAY defer sending the frame (see {{key-update-old-keys}}).
+
+An endpoint does not always need to send packets when it detects that its peer
+has updated keys.  The next packet that it sends use the new keys and include
+the KEYS_ACTIVE frame.  If an endpoint detects a second update before it has
+sent any packets with updated keys or a KEYS_ACTIVE frame, it indicates that its
+peer has updated keys twice without awaiting a reciprocal update.  An endpoint
+MUST treat consecutive key updates as a connection error of type
+KEY_UPDATE_ERROR.
+
+Endpoints responding to an apparent key update MUST NOT generate a timing
+side-channel signal that might indicate that the Key Phase bit was invalid (see
+{{header-protect-analysis}}).  Endpoints can use dummy packet protection keys in
+place of discarded keys when key updates are not permitted; using dummy keys

No. Because packets can be injected.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2934,6 +2931,9 @@ containing that information is acknowledged.
 * PING and PADDING frames contain no information, so lost PING or PADDING frames
   do not require repair.
 
+* KEYS_ACTIVE frames are sent until acknowledged or until newer keys are used
+  for sending packets.

It is correct.

Interesting observation: If your KEYS_ACTIVE got through and you don't see the ACK before your peer updates again, then you can just retransmit, but it's a different frame at that point.

That suggests that maybe you don't need to worry about stopping retransmission for KEYS_ACTIVE. The sender can always update, and the sender of a packet with new keys containing KEYS_ACTIVE is always receptive to a key update.

Technically however, KEYS_ACTIVE sent in those circumstances has different semantics, so the text is correct as is.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +both sent and received, older keys can be safely discarded.
+
+The KEYS_ACTIVE frame contains no additional fields.
+
+The packet that carries a KEYS_ACTIVE frame determines which keys are active and
+usable.  The keys with the same key phase as those used in the packet that
+carries the KEYS_ACTIVE frame are active.
+
+An endpoint MUST send a KEYS_ACTIVE packet in the first packet it sends using
+keys, but only if it is also able to receive packets that are protected using
+the corresponding keys.
+
+KEYS_ACTIVE frames are retransmitted when declared lost, however implementations
+need to take care not to retransmit lost KEYS_ACTIVE frames if they initiate a
+subsequent key update.  This can happen if an acknowledgment for a packet
+containing a KEYS_ACTIVE frame is lost.

Say I initiate an update. I receive a KEYS_ACTIVE in an updated packet.

At this point, I am expected to start sending KEYS_ACTIVE. But I can also initiate another key update.

If I initiate a key update, which I can do without sending any more packets, then I MUST NOT send a KEYS_ACTIVE in that packet, because that leaves me open to a double update from my peer.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+KEYS_ACTIVE frames are retransmitted when declared lost, however implementations
+need to take care not to retransmit lost KEYS_ACTIVE frames if they initiate a
+subsequent key update.  This can happen if an acknowledgment for a packet
+containing a KEYS_ACTIVE frame is lost.
+
+Endpoints MUST NOT send KEYS_ACTIVE frames in Initial or 0-RTT packets.
+
+A KEYS_ACTIVE frame used during the handshake can be used to indicate the
+availability of Handshake keys by including it in a Handshake packet.  An
+endpoint sends this frame in its first Handshake packet.  Once received, an
+endpoint can discard Initial keys.
+
+A KEYS_ACTIVE frame used after the completion of the handshake in 1-RTT packets
+indicates that Handshake keys are no longer needed.  A client sends this frame
+in its first 1-RTT packet, and a server sends this frame in the first packet it

I'm going with MUST.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +KEYS_ACTIVE frames are retransmitted when declared lost, however implementations
+need to take care not to retransmit lost KEYS_ACTIVE frames if they initiate a
+subsequent key update.  This can happen if an acknowledgment for a packet
+containing a KEYS_ACTIVE frame is lost.
+
+Endpoints MUST NOT send KEYS_ACTIVE frames in Initial or 0-RTT packets.
+
+A KEYS_ACTIVE frame used during the handshake can be used to indicate the
+availability of Handshake keys by including it in a Handshake packet.  An
+endpoint sends this frame in its first Handshake packet.  Once received, an
+endpoint can discard Initial keys.
+
+A KEYS_ACTIVE frame used after the completion of the handshake in 1-RTT packets
+indicates that Handshake keys are no longer needed.  A client sends this frame
+in its first 1-RTT packet, and a server sends this frame in the first packet it
+sends after completing the handshake.  A server might send 1-RTT keys prior to

Oops, I meant packets.

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= ----==_mimepart_5c650bebd5f5_5bb23f88aa6d45bc1223c7-- From nobody Wed Feb 13 22:35:42 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 120B1130F84 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2019 22:35:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IG8NfxvXxIfn for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2019 22:35:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 88A43128B14 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2019 22:35:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 22:35:38 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550126138; bh=QGpbcqius9GS08Lvl0vesyhePSYkhzVGc/ro3xxgBIU=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=GeJlf+kFkgfF4LORj1Y3lgDclXB50TTI57CH3e1p8Btm4NQn1vDEWP4SycL84Iyjs YA5L5/wcrFfZAQtNxjpGquVAJ+ZrEcocWtbAReqtE7BDeQ+2SgxIWGjpwlKwo5ehTa Z8IkHw/0gsycf3TIfw8AXsi+PZkknsCZiykDPtjU= From: Mark Nottingham To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] 988f7b: typo Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 06:35:41 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/mnot-two-processes Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: 988f7b0bff4bb485875dce1093b3210793ac378c https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/988f7b0bff4bb485875dce1093b3210793ac378c Author: Mark Nottingham Date: 2019-02-14 (Thu, 14 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M CONTRIBUTING.md Log Message: ----------- typo From nobody Wed Feb 13 22:42:17 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 766CA130FFA for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2019 22:42:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id My5Xe-r6wryG for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2019 22:42:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BF2EF130FFB for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2019 22:42:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 22:42:12 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550126532; bh=s+8O6DXplRF0zx5/Au+7oG2+41TOPvbXNncvA4h3fZg=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=Hbq2AFToW7D03RsWSymF84i+pYS3ChuDhWp0xwPrz5rx6kj0jc8QiHM9ck6htqcBI tb0dAFEbCG2fWIatIVSHq025uD2Ma5OahVOlzDGGZLfp1jS00zTnkvVQWiYMpOiybZ MBYjEeJBHBxLusXXuYaj+YJb8LzDvs+qyXw+I0kU= From: Mark Nottingham To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] 4b8ee3: yeah let's try that again. 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Sec 7.3.1 of quic-transport says:
A client that attempts to send 0-RTT data MUST remember the transport parameters used by the server. The transport parameters that the server advertises during connection establishment apply to all connections that are resumed using the keying material established during that handshake. Remembered transport parameters apply to the new connection until the handshake completes and new transport parameters from the server can be provided.

Later on, the section makes it clear that this is really about the flow control parameters, which makes a lot of sense, but here I am storing all this data to be compliant.

I propose that we change the MUST above to refer to only the 6 FC parameters. This reduces the stuff that clients have to store.

going through each:
original_connection_id: clearly useless
idle_timeout: useless in handshake
stateless_reset_token: clearly useless
max_packet_size: could be useful, but meh
ack_delay_exponent: not useful before we get the server Handshake
max_ack_delay: same
disable_migration: same
preferred_address: same

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It's not just the flow control parameters -- it's also support for extensions in TPs yet-to-be-defined. So while I would be amenable to reorienting this issue to create an exception for the ones you've marked as useless, I think this is the correct default rule.

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----==_mimepart_5c65b8dc624ff_550c3febb5cd45c0135222-- From nobody Thu Feb 14 10:53:00 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB93D129441 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 10:52:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.455 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.455 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TH_mrAUMgyJp for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 10:52:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 15D401289FA for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 10:52:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 10:52:56 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550170376; bh=ros55B1JGx+/wFgCANCwBZmU8L+mvXGaza0ei2wAR8c=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=S5vHEGvL1c/nltISATEUgAsvpRYt7JspeQdAvkCwhFzzuNlsq2qziJvbHKgZPoZpp 8eCxJi9T7iiGaAJ6MDwVR+pnBXu0mm3mPXT/EG4HPzEI08n7OHivnqKMrgJoV0nCEk kBFe6U0z7o1raEdR/eo6hRkxoePCbC1uoEsivics= From: martinduke Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remember Fewer Transport Parameters for 0-RTT (#2464) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c65b908ae08_31933fb8f9ad45c0136866"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinduke X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 18:52:59 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c65b908ae08_31933fb8f9ad45c0136866 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit good point. I'm happy to write a PR as you describe if others agree. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2464#issuecomment-463746699 ----==_mimepart_5c65b908ae08_31933fb8f9ad45c0136866 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

good point. I'm happy to write a PR as you describe if others agree.

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@mnot: I wasn't suggesting that we not explicitly ask the list. As @ianswett notes, there are issues where we will have consensus but they are pending actual PRs. Those are the ones I was thinking of as "resolved".

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I know we agreed to this is Tokyo, but seeing the actual PR made me re= alize how complex and hard to enforce this is. Would it be possible to so= lve the issue in a simpler way by saying something along the lines of the= following? Once a server receives a valid 1-RTT packet with packet= number n, any 0-RTT packet it receives with packet number greater than n= MUST be ignored. That way clients can't keep sending 0-RTT foreve= r since they'll have to send a 1-RTT ACK to unblock the server-to-client = flow control at some point.

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I agree that a good number of those are useless.

Possibly we should explicitly state which params need to be stored and extensions should be required to state whether they need to be stored when they're defined?

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Once a server receives a valid 1-RTT packet with packet number n, any 0-RTT packet it receives with packet number greater than n MUST be ignored.

This is already the case. It fails to solve any of the problems we are faced with though.

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----==_mimepart_5c65d7e9f2d89_49253fd51a8d45bc142784-- From nobody Thu Feb 14 13:06:07 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A39012F1AB for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 13:06:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BO09XZMI85Cl for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 13:06:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CADCF129532 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 13:06:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 13:06:02 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550178362; bh=hbyPCptx8VjiHhwqYswhYvjRJICbAOr6LUIN8NXyh6I=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=vgMuG5rhslfeztmnFWtQIO5XToN2N9w88CFQxPOx5E3hYBhmy11r92lHjA1qwdL7R 4NP5BaVj+Bd6Tm5W9AuEXFtoQLaWzJwmJoTlhwBkR8xySbmvB4Z/Lf8IBtenwqY2vm w8St2W+umkOH7xn9tG/VThtL9rx7dGjDlPl4WmpY= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remember Fewer Transport Parameters for 0-RTT (#2464) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c65d83ac3382_6f403f9423ed45bc931c6"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 21:06:05 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c65d83ac3382_6f403f9423ed45bc931c6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How is anyone going to know if you don't remember these values? Just remember the ones you know you need to remember. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2464#issuecomment-463796273 ----==_mimepart_5c65d83ac3382_6f403f9423ed45bc931c6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

How is anyone going to know if you don't remember these values? Just remember the ones you know you need to remember.

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In 17.2.3, the transport draft says:

Receiving a Retry packet, especially a Retry that changes the connection ID used for subsequent packets, indicates a strong possibility that 0-RTT packets could be lost.

However, in 17.2.5:

The server includes a connection ID of its choice in the Source Connection ID field. This value MUST not be equal to the Destination Connection ID field of the packet sent by the client.

The subordinate clause in the first is unnecessary, as that statement is true of all Retry packets. In the second, should that be "MUST NOT" rather than "MUST not"?

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@DavidSchinazi, if you want to change the decision at = the interim, that's decidedly a question for the issue/list.

Once a server receives a valid 1-RTT packet with packet number n, any = 0-RTT packet it receives with packet number greater than n MUST be ignore= d.

This is already the case. It fails to solve any of the problems we are= faced with though.

@martinthomson, can you point to that restriction? I ag= ree that it's intended, but I can't find it.

If we have that, you have to ignore 0-RTT packets sent after 1-RTT has= started. If you withhold putting any increases in flow control into eff= ect until you've seen that 1-RTT packet, you're done fixing the problem w= e discussed. That might be a simpler way to describe (or at least to imp= lement) this prohibition.

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A conformance test that deliberately lowers them after accepting 0-RTT and checks whether the client chokes.

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You can't lower preferred addresses, disable migration, etc.. Basically, we should allow all those that @martinduke points out make no sense to remember to change. That's the real fix here.

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----==_mimepart_5c65da529ee2_1ac03fd7b6ed45b81647df-- From nobody Thu Feb 14 13:17:32 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4468612D4F2 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 13:17:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.596 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.596 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2Vqx34YMJ9hT for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 13:17:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5E2AA129BBF for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 13:17:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 13:17:28 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550179048; bh=+54lGRubGPLSxiValt9WSF9h8hpyWWmftmNjbpEqFVA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=C6yAPmhGCIZx+pKYwpGBce+82wM2rypQyNsN3kYGNhAkprZMrTwdF9y75FYwnu4iS ShEtHSz/y174c1Vh9bRbdNOQ5cC/4uTmsTz71mZeaDU0LvJL+mYmefFSMqka2uc051 aREwXfFDA9nGELkedn7ISQr4Y7gY1fkrx+qx5P/Y= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] 0-RTT can't use transport parameters or 1-RTT frames (#2461) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c65dae87d0c6_2f2b3ff14a2d45bc110553"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 21:17:31 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c65dae87d0c6_2f2b3ff14a2d45bc110553 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-tls.html#rfc.section.4.9 says: > https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-tls.html#rfc.section.4.9 We already have issues on file for not reading 1-RTT and then sending more 0-RTT. They even have PRs. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2461#issuecomment-463800526 ----==_mimepart_5c65dae87d0c6_2f2b3ff14a2d45bc110553 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-= quic-tls.html#rfc.section.4.9 says:

https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-= quic-tls.html#rfc.section.4.9

We already have issues on file for not reading 1-RTT and then sending = more 0-RTT. They even have PRs.

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Ah, I was looking in -transport. That prohibits the client from going= back to 0-RTT, and prohibits the server from accepting 0-RTT starting 3R= TO after the server first sends a 1-RTT packet, but doesn't appear to req= uire the server to check that the client didn't reverse itself by droppin= g packets.

(This is the issue/PR about not allowing the client to stay i= n 1-RTT, isn't it?)

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Closed #2461.

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[ci skip] From nobody Thu Feb 14 14:08:23 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3EE21311EE for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 14:08:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id w5jkz-iyAwHD for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 14:08:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 984611311ED for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 14:08:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 14:08:18 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550182098; bh=MKQWRFcGrzJs9Uw4QoIDvAm36PHrFv1NYzdYhW2UDQA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=nvUit+ggh6CzYyKNMGMKDPb37x9xfuExn2sXcswnyf1FaIEkdImWoaaZMeEJWkS9H dlluRpM9fVRhxPeo68Km1BtBofvfSTSp9ZK+3iqhRwFBQv12d4xzAGgWCuzeuy9kZb nOeCuayyLBVzpVfr4o7rKP7C8w6HIH5y4vm/iyrs= From: David Schinazi Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] 0-RTT can't use transport parameters or 1-RTT frames (#2461) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c65e6d22aaaf_2fd13fd9b00d45c0896d1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: DavidSchinazi X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 22:08:22 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c65e6d22aaaf_2fd13fd9b00d45c0896d1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @MikeBishop I wouldn't say I'm explicitly trying to change anything decided in Tokyo, I'm trying to understand why I'm failing to understand what problem this PR solves. @martinthomson the text you pasted from -tls doesn't match what I suggested: > Once a server receives a valid 1-RTT packet with packet number n, any 0-RTT packet it receives with packet number greater than n MUST be ignored. 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@MikeBishop I wouldn't say I'm explicitly trying to chang= e anything decided in Tokyo, I'm trying to understand why I'm failing to = understand what problem this PR solves.

@martinthomson the text you pasted from -tls doesn't mat= ch what I suggested:

Once a server receives a valid 1-RTT packet with packet number n, any = 0-RTT packet it receives with packet number greater than n MUST be ignore= d.

So I don't think we already do that. Could you elaborate on what probl= em is solved by this PR that wouldn't be solved by my check above?

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In Tokyo, we agreed that flow control and stream IDs advertised in the server's 1-RTT packets and transport parameters don't apply to the client's 0-RTT data. This makes two changes: - The client was already prohibited from sending more 0-RTT packets after reaching 1-RTT ([TLS 4.9](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-tls.html#rfc.section.4.9), "Though an endpoint might retain older keys, new data MUST be sent at the highest currently-available encryption level.") This adds a requirement on the server to drop 0-RTT packets with higher packet numbers than the first 1-RTT packet number from the client. - Any increases to flow control or stream limits the server sends don't apply to 0-RTT traffic; servers SHOULD enforce the remembered values until at least one 1-RTT packet has been received. This isn't perfect, as a malicious client could send a high numbered 1-RTT packet to unlock the flow control and save lower packet numbers for 0-RTT traffic which exceeds the initial limits, but it helps. From discussion on the PR, it sounds like more aggressive enforcement than this is problematic for servers in multiple implementations. Fixes #2458. Fixes #2360. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2466 -- Commit Summary -- * Simpler restriction on staying in 0-RTT * Stream counts, too -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (15) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2466.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2466.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Taking a stab at @DavidSchinazi's suggested alternative. In Tokyo, we agreed that flow control and stream IDs advertised in the server's 1-RTT packets and transport parameters don't apply to the client's 0-RTT data.

This makes two changes:

  • The client was already prohibited from sending more 0-RTT packets after reaching 1-RTT (TLS 4.9, "Though an endpoint might retain older keys, new data MUST be sent at the highest
    currently-available encryption level.") This adds a requirement on the server to drop 0-RTT packets with higher packet numbers than the first 1-RTT packet number from the client.
  • Any increases to flow control or stream limits the server sends don't apply to 0-RTT traffic; servers SHOULD enforce the remembered values until at least one 1-RTT packet has been received.

This isn't perfect, as a malicious client could send a high numbered 1-RTT packet to unlock the flow control and save lower packet numbers for 0-RTT traffic which exceeds the initial limits, but it helps. From discussion on the PR, it sounds like more aggressive enforcement than this is problematic for servers in multiple implementations.

Fixes #2458.
Fixes #2360.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2466

Commit Summary

  • Simpler restriction on staying in 0-RTT
  • Stream counts, too

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----==_mimepart_5c65e77dc0a83_5d993fb87a6d45bc255856-- From nobody Thu Feb 14 14:11:41 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0684B1311E6 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 14:11:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uUT-oA2T440A for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 14:11:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 767B51311D5 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 14:11:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 14:11:35 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550182295; bh=cdPwdr3bvhtLY93BpVesDO8AXO8m6mMkX2cOhNGBotk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=GPVONESXzIQNfu5oYcgGuPenaj8nc+cNrs3RoIDFIVN3yd1mYo23uFCZpgS5vT4Y4 UfGxnfeCtxe0Hr1T0ehjJycCZNOIodgR9C2byQ01/FCopI3IWevrHYiTZLX0je0kvy tnYO/KfrxwUn+SJKJy/P8YkNAcbswML/v+5kRLZc= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] 0-RTT can't use transport parameters or 1-RTT frames (#2461) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c65e797a2ef3_613e3ff1530d45c4229769"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 22:11:38 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c65e797a2ef3_613e3ff1530d45c4229769 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (To be clear, @martinthomson pasted the URL again as the quote, and I expanded it to some of the relevant text.) I think what he was meaning to point to was this: > Though an endpoint might retain older keys, new data MUST be sent at the highest currently-available encryption level. Only ACK frames and retransmissions of data in CRYPTO frames are sent at a previous encryption level. These packets MAY also include PADDING frames. So the client is prohibited from doing that, but the server isn't currently obligated to check. I've tried to create something along the lines you suggest in #2466 -- can you take a look? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2461#issuecomment-463821378 ----==_mimepart_5c65e797a2ef3_613e3ff1530d45c4229769 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

(To be clear, @martinthomson pasted the URL again as the= quote, and I expanded it to some of the relevant text.) I think what he= was meaning to point to was this:

Though an endpoint might retain older keys, new data MUST be sent at t= he highest
currently-available encryption level. Only ACK frames and retransmission= s of
data in CRYPTO frames are sent at a previous encryption level. These pac= kets
MAY also include PADDING frames.

So the client is prohibited from doing that, but the server isn't curr= ently obligated to check. I've tried to create something along the lines= you suggest in #2466 -- can you take a look?

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This actually is already addressed in the TLS draft, as @mar= tinthomson pointed out in another thread: TLS 4.9, "Though an endpoint might retain older keys, new data MUST= be sent at the highest
currently-available encryption level."

If you have 1-RTT keys, you MUST use them. There's currently no serve= r verification that you do so, however.

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Reopened #2461.

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Too little sleep. I still think that this is better than #2466. Comments why over there.

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@martinthomson commented on this pull request.

More fundamentally than the objection below (which is minor), this unnecessarily creates lots of special cases. Maybe that is what we're looking for here, but I would rather say that transport parameters that can apply to 0-RTT need to be remembered, with a requirement to demonstrate that they don't apply before they can be forgotten/changed.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2631,7 +2641,10 @@ number 0.  Subsequent packets sent in the same packet number space MUST increase
 the packet number by at least one.
 
 0-RTT and 1-RTT data exist in the same packet number space to make loss recovery
-algorithms easier to implement between the two packet types.
+algorithms easier to implement between the two packet types.  However, a client
+MUST NOT continue sending 0-RTT packets after beginning to use 1-RTT packets.
+Servers MUST drop 0-RTT packets with greater packet numbers than the lowest
+packet number they have received in a 1-RTT packet.

I don't like the drop requirement. The client is violating the rules, and for no good reason. The server can punish clients who act in this way.

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----==_mimepart_5c65eb44be54d_5fd53fb18aad45b44258e4-- From nobody Thu Feb 14 14:35:44 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06AF9131213 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 14:35:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rUcbuYScqCKI for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 14:35:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 398F013120E for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 14:35:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 14:35:40 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550183740; bh=Cxglg3ufqZp5IlL1atBBOG4v+V7wdZ4lER8vUay3W2Y=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Iy5a1f82ZmNZQKvfXpC3P1ZEmm3HZSdJMmHyrMunDoRwngtVS7N21e/aRndOqp0It VVKQYtVEnKiKnGXsAH7WwzuRlv8XAtTHIxradq2Za7cT3pYfSiHoosXYqTdx3tKyPt rAPy4/CIwWS0jvwQ6WJKlelur7q9YsLeHJGqHW1c= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Bound 0-to-1-RTT Transition (#2466) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c65ed3c35c36_4cff3f99b7ed45b4990b3"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 22:35:43 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c65ed3c35c36_4cff3f99b7ed45b4990b3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm not clear what you mean by "a requirement to demonstrate that they don't apply before they can be forgotten/changed"? Do you just mean the stronger statement of checking that 0-RTT data doesn't exceed the limits? I agree that #2461 is a stronger statement, but it's also more complex to verify -- you basically have to tag the processing of every data packet that arrives in 0-RTT and apply special logic to it. It's entirely possible that we spec #2461 and people implement #2466 as a good-enough way of achieving the requirement. :-) -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2466#issuecomment-463830354 ----==_mimepart_5c65ed3c35c36_4cff3f99b7ed45b4990b3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I'm not clear what you mean by "a requirement to demonstrate that they= don't apply before they can be forgotten/changed"? Do you just mean the= stronger statement of checking that 0-RTT data doesn't exceed the limits= ? I agree that #2461 is a stronger statement, but it's als= o more complex to verify -- you basically have to tag the processing of e= very data packet that arrives in 0-RTT and apply special logic to it.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2631,7 +2641,10 @@ number 0.  Subsequent packets sent in the same packet number space MUST increase
 the packet number by at least one.
 
 0-RTT and 1-RTT data exist in the same packet number space to make loss recovery
-algorithms easier to implement between the two packet types.
+algorithms easier to implement between the two packet types.  However, a client
+MUST NOT continue sending 0-RTT packets after beginning to use 1-RTT packets.
+Servers MUST drop 0-RTT packets with greater packet numbers than the lowest
+packet number they have received in a 1-RTT packet.

Fair enough. We can PV on this.

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It's entirely possible that we spec #2461 and people imp= lement #2466 as a good-enough way of achieving the requirem= ent. :-)

That's OK. Because #2461 establishes the right expectat= ions for new transport parameters, whereas this doesn't.

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I believe the new layout is much clearer for implementers. I made max_packet_size optional for reasons that I think are self-evident. I thought saving max_ack_delay might be useful for clients setting loss timers on their 0-RTT stuff. Everything else is required or forbidden. Per @MikeBishop's suggestion, I put all the new TPs in the required category. I also specified behavior when the EE msg omits a TP. I thought it would be simpler for servers that spit out a standard set of TPs to do things that way. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2467 -- Commit Summary -- * Refine Discussion of 0-RTT Transport Parameters -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (51) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2467.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2467.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Fixes #2464, but there are some value judgments here. I believe the new layout is much clearer for implementers.

I made max_packet_size optional for reasons that I think are self-evident. I thought saving max_ack_delay might be useful for clients setting loss timers on their 0-RTT stuff. Everything else is required or forbidden.

Per @MikeBishop's suggestion, I put all the new TPs in the required category.

I also specified behavior when the EE msg omits a TP. I thought it would be simpler for servers that spit out a standard set of TPs to do things that way.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2467

Commit Summary

  • Refine Discussion of 0-RTT Transport Parameters

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----==_mimepart_5c65f20c117b9_27b3fbe17ed45bc2485fb-- From nobody Thu Feb 14 15:42:58 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88725128B36 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 15:42:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id T6vHiLGMcgjD for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 15:42:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5DCAE1289FA for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 15:42:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 15:42:53 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550187773; bh=tAk4zBEo6Enr6x2xChg2U3wJf05DcAsmk3Sq7rSks8c=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=J5hjkPtueUYZjW+05p4u+0APB6iXFXid/g4k6iFnkobYFnvcRstUVM2DtQX0f1KzZ TJsjAcxGWDWm3KfddvzRq5gnO7GDhrxaMtsCai4uDciaC+38vrFbLovi/sgcL/Juxv bNDdxSvOf3yw8DmKwWM363stSgu1kPjh6pMebCGw= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Refine Discussion of 0-RTT Transport Parameters (#2467) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c65fcfd23065_597a3fb4f1ad45b8117443"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 23:42:57 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c65fcfd23065_597a3fb4f1ad45b8117443 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MikeBishop approved this pull request. Looks reasonable to me. I'm not opposed to @ianswett's suggestion that lets future transport parameters decide whether they need to be remembered or not, either. > -A server MAY accept 0-RTT and subsequently provide different values for -transport parameters for use in the new connection. If 0-RTT data is accepted -by the server, the server MUST NOT reduce any limits or alter any values that -might be violated by the client with its 0-RTT data. In particular, a server -that accepts 0-RTT data MUST NOT set values for the following parameters -({{transport-parameter-definitions}}) that are smaller -than the remembered value of those parameters. +The value of the server's previous original_connection_id, preferred_address, +stateless_reset_token, and ack_delay_exponent MUST NOT be used when +establishing a new connection; rather, the client should wait to observe the +server's new values in the handshake. + +The client MAY store the server's original max_ack_delay and max_packet_size +transport parameters. The server MAY accept 0-RTT and subsequently provide +different values for these transport parameters for use in the new connection. +The client MUST use these values after acknowledging them. If the server does ```suggestion The client MUST use these values after the handshake completes. If the server does ``` ...modulo any rewrapping needed from line-length changes. > +establishing a new connection; rather, the client should wait to observe the +server's new values in the handshake. + +The client MAY store the server's original max_ack_delay and max_packet_size +transport parameters. The server MAY accept 0-RTT and subsequently provide +different values for these transport parameters for use in the new connection. +The client MUST use these values after acknowledging them. If the server does +not provide a new value, the client MUST use the default value. + +A client that attempts to send 0-RTT data MUST remember all other transport +parameters used by the server, including new transport parameters +({{new-transport-parameters}}) that it is able to process. The server can +remember these transport parameters, or store an integrity-protected copy of +the values in the ticket and recover the information when accepting 0-RTT +data. A server uses the transport parameters in determining whether to accept +0-RTT data. I think this comment about the server remembering needs to be paired with the prohibition on the server reducing values. Since you've split out the "in particular" ones already, it might be reasonable to say that the server must not reduce limits / alter values in the transport parameters the client is required to remember. This is especially true if we go with Ian's suggestion to require future transport parameter definitions to specify which remembering category they fall in. > A server MUST either reject 0-RTT data or abort a handshake if the implied values for transport parameters cannot be supported. - -### New Transport Parameters +### New Transport Parameters {#new-transport-parameters} Technically unnecessary, since that's the auto-generated anchor anyway. But it doesn't hurt anything. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Looks reasonable to me. I'm not opposed to @ianswett's sug= gestion that lets future transport parameters decide whether they need to= be remembered or not, either.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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...modulo any rewrapping needed from line-length changes.

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I think this comment about the server remembering needs to be paired w= ith the prohibition on the server reducing values. Since you've split ou= t the "in particular" ones already, it might be reasonable to say that th= e server must not reduce limits / alter values in the transport parameter= s the client is required to remember.

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This is especially true if we go with Ian's suggestion to require futu= re transport parameter definitions to specify which remembering category = they fall in.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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Technically unnecessary, since that's the auto-generated anchor anyway= . But it doesn't hurt anything.

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Although not super-important, the biggest decision in here is that the packet number of the response to a RETRY is 1. Based on interop experience, I believe this is the semi-consensus of implementers.

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I've come to realize that this is the right answer, but we need to be more principled about this. Can we categorize things better, maybe add a column to the table we use to list transport parameters even. If we do use the table, I would move it from the IANA considerations to this section. > ### Values of Transport Parameters for 0-RTT {#zerortt-parameters} -A client that attempts to send 0-RTT data MUST remember the transport parameters -used by the server. The transport parameters that the server advertises during -connection establishment apply to all connections that are resumed using the -keying material established during that handshake. Remembered transport +The transport parameters that the server advertises during connection +establishment generally apply to all connections that are resumed using "generally" is a little to squishy a word to use here. I'd prefer to be crisp: > The value of transport parameters from a connection are remembered and apply to any 0-RTT packets that are sent in subsequent connections that are resumed from that connection, except for those transport parameters that are explicitly excluded. Remembered transport parameters apply to the new connection until the handshake completes and the client starts sending 1-RTT packets. Once the handshake completes, the client uses the transport parameters established in the handshake. > > Any transport parameter that does not or cannot apply to 0-RTT packets does not need to be remembered. This includes max_ack_delay, . Any transport parameter that applies to the connection as a whole does not need to be remembered. This includes disable_migration, . Endpoints are not obligated to remember and use unknown transport parameters. Then I think we can tabulate transport parameters and add a "0-RTT" column, indicating whether it applies to 0-RTT or not. > -when accepting 0-RTT data. A server uses the transport parameters in -determining whether to accept 0-RTT data. - -A server MAY accept 0-RTT and subsequently provide different values for -transport parameters for use in the new connection. If 0-RTT data is accepted -by the server, the server MUST NOT reduce any limits or alter any values that -might be violated by the client with its 0-RTT data. In particular, a server -that accepts 0-RTT data MUST NOT set values for the following parameters -({{transport-parameter-definitions}}) that are smaller -than the remembered value of those parameters. +The value of the server's previous original_connection_id, preferred_address, +stateless_reset_token, and ack_delay_exponent MUST NOT be used when +establishing a new connection; rather, the client should wait to observe the +server's new values in the handshake. + +The client MAY store the server's original max_ack_delay and max_packet_size max_packet_size is important. That is the one in addition to the flow control stuff that needs to be respected. > -when accepting 0-RTT data. A server uses the transport parameters in -determining whether to accept 0-RTT data. - -A server MAY accept 0-RTT and subsequently provide different values for -transport parameters for use in the new connection. If 0-RTT data is accepted -by the server, the server MUST NOT reduce any limits or alter any values that -might be violated by the client with its 0-RTT data. In particular, a server -that accepts 0-RTT data MUST NOT set values for the following parameters -({{transport-parameter-definitions}}) that are smaller -than the remembered value of those parameters. +The value of the server's previous original_connection_id, preferred_address, +stateless_reset_token, and ack_delay_exponent MUST NOT be used when +establishing a new connection; rather, the client should wait to observe the +server's new values in the handshake. + +The client MAY store the server's original max_ack_delay and max_packet_size max_ack_delay is not needed for 0-RTT, though it can help in loss recovery, it's a value that can change. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@martinthomson commented on this pull request.

I've come to realize that this is the right answer, but we need to be more principled about this. Can we categorize things better, maybe add a column to the table we use to list transport parameters even.

If we do use the table, I would move it from the IANA considerations to this section.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  ### Values of Transport Parameters for 0-RTT {#zerortt-parameters}
 
-A client that attempts to send 0-RTT data MUST remember the transport parameters
-used by the server.  The transport parameters that the server advertises during
-connection establishment apply to all connections that are resumed using the
-keying material established during that handshake.  Remembered transport
+The transport parameters that the server advertises during connection
+establishment generally apply to all connections that are resumed using

"generally" is a little to squishy a word to use here. I'd prefer to be crisp:

The value of transport parameters from a connection are remembered and apply to any 0-RTT packets that are sent in subsequent connections that are resumed from that connection, except for those transport parameters that are explicitly excluded. Remembered transport parameters apply to the new connection until the handshake completes and the client starts sending 1-RTT packets. Once the handshake completes, the client uses the transport parameters established in the handshake.

Any transport parameter that does not or cannot apply to 0-RTT packets does not need to be remembered. This includes max_ack_delay, . Any transport parameter that applies to the connection as a whole does not need to be remembered. This includes disable_migration, . Endpoints are not obligated to remember and use unknown transport parameters.

Then I think we can tabulate transport parameters and add a "0-RTT" column, indicating whether it applies to 0-RTT or not.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -when accepting 0-RTT data.  A server uses the transport parameters in
-determining whether to accept 0-RTT data.
-
-A server MAY accept 0-RTT and subsequently provide different values for
-transport parameters for use in the new connection.  If 0-RTT data is accepted
-by the server, the server MUST NOT reduce any limits or alter any values that
-might be violated by the client with its 0-RTT data.  In particular, a server
-that accepts 0-RTT data MUST NOT set values for the following parameters
-({{transport-parameter-definitions}}) that are smaller
-than the remembered value of those parameters.
+The value of the server's previous original_connection_id, preferred_address,
+stateless_reset_token, and ack_delay_exponent MUST NOT be used when
+establishing a new connection; rather, the client should wait to observe the
+server's new values in the handshake.
+
+The client MAY store the server's original max_ack_delay and max_packet_size

max_packet_size is important. That is the one in addition to the flow control stuff that needs to be respected.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -when accepting 0-RTT data.  A server uses the transport parameters in
-determining whether to accept 0-RTT data.
-
-A server MAY accept 0-RTT and subsequently provide different values for
-transport parameters for use in the new connection.  If 0-RTT data is accepted
-by the server, the server MUST NOT reduce any limits or alter any values that
-might be violated by the client with its 0-RTT data.  In particular, a server
-that accepts 0-RTT data MUST NOT set values for the following parameters
-({{transport-parameter-definitions}}) that are smaller
-than the remembered value of those parameters.
+The value of the server's previous original_connection_id, preferred_address,
+stateless_reset_token, and ack_delay_exponent MUST NOT be used when
+establishing a new connection; rather, the client should wait to observe the
+server's new values in the handshake.
+
+The client MAY store the server's original max_ack_delay and max_packet_size

max_ack_delay is not needed for 0-RTT, though it can help in loss recovery, it's a value that can change.

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[ci skip] From nobody Thu Feb 14 16:11:51 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4390E12F1A6 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 16:11:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eMUPYHodUbAH for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 16:11:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7CEC8128B36 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 16:11:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 16:11:47 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550189507; bh=ti1YBtvXicAVrtl0t726brOKjN3YBZRwcD0yZDEJcOU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ONXn4/wMWvtZh5unt8VXdlkRYb3sJdCgSi4Br/qU6oaZpqqnzjfVAZMDthDohQ5W1 V2IaivnOmzwfH63oKubEwVr+A63FLrjY9ijZ1ylqmYGsxRN7Ij1i23ysdmoNMiDwwV mo0w6CNzEhZ9OtZ1X4Fof+I5QHeFxbOtI7zLiv1U= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Client MUST use 1-RTT packets if it reads 1-RTT packets (#2458) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c6603c372a0d_29693fa0e52d45b8365a5"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 00:11:50 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c6603c372a0d_29693fa0e52d45b8365a5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think this should be stated in transport as well as TLS, along with a statement that a server MAY/SHOULD/MUST ignore 0RTT packets that have higher packet numbers than the first received 1RTT packet. The first is editorial I believe, the latter is borderline design. If we decided it was valid to close the connection if a 0RTT packet was received with a higher packet number than 1RTT, then that's definitely not editorial, but I think it may be a good way to enforce proper behavior. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2458#issuecomment-463854962 ----==_mimepart_5c6603c372a0d_29693fa0e52d45b8365a5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I think this should be stated in transport as well as TLS, along with = a statement that a server MAY/SHOULD/MUST ignore 0RTT packets that have h= igher packet numbers than the first received 1RTT packet. The first is e= ditorial I believe, the latter is borderline design.

If we decided it was valid to close the connection if a 0RTT packet wa= s received with a higher packet number than 1RTT, then that's definitely = not editorial, but I think it may be a good way to enforce proper behavio= r.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2631,7 +2641,10 @@ number 0.  Subsequent packets sent in the same packet number space MUST increase
 the packet number by at least one.
 
 0-RTT and 1-RTT data exist in the same packet number space to make loss recovery
-algorithms easier to implement between the two packet types.
+algorithms easier to implement between the two packet types.  However, a client
+MUST NOT continue sending 0-RTT packets after beginning to use 1-RTT packets.
+Servers MUST drop 0-RTT packets with greater packet numbers than the lowest
+packet number they have received in a 1-RTT packet.

Good point, I also prefer closing the connection to what I had initially proposed.

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I prefer this over #2461. The fuss is about adding a complex enforcement requirement that no servers will implement. It makes the document harder to read without helping implementors.

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----==_mimepart_5c6606ab9ecb_1c293f97cd8d45c41414aa-- From nobody Thu Feb 14 16:30:58 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8E2B130DCB for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 16:30:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PIe4SqG_PDwV for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 16:30:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EEF1B128B36 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 16:30:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 16:30:52 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550190652; bh=2vR0JfE+iBP+6bzD1XMvuEYBPNbvKy6j9UWykfW9f4o=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=DFCIJhtFv96OGwSHFo61EB4L6MCVtDVNiuu4OmH7/52MzFgCTXmXsJW7RhLuxzsuL j7X04cDNksQfKGFk2kKPyNbd4IfDvnbY29p8x4apVzvi03L18ftavVwhpBOt5Pmv4I bVGGH2HRJ/Q/HMmyoM/I1Dq41dQGGlvBLZ0BzJiI= From: martinduke Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Refine Discussion of 0-RTT Transport Parameters (#2467) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c66083ccc6d2_315a3fd9a16d45c41375e7"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinduke X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 00:30:56 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c66083ccc6d2_315a3fd9a16d45c41375e7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinduke commented on this pull request. > -when accepting 0-RTT data. A server uses the transport parameters in -determining whether to accept 0-RTT data. - -A server MAY accept 0-RTT and subsequently provide different values for -transport parameters for use in the new connection. If 0-RTT data is accepted -by the server, the server MUST NOT reduce any limits or alter any values that -might be violated by the client with its 0-RTT data. In particular, a server -that accepts 0-RTT data MUST NOT set values for the following parameters -({{transport-parameter-definitions}}) that are smaller -than the remembered value of those parameters. +The value of the server's previous original_connection_id, preferred_address, +stateless_reset_token, and ack_delay_exponent MUST NOT be used when +establishing a new connection; rather, the client should wait to observe the +server's new values in the handshake. + +The client MAY store the server's original max_ack_delay and max_packet_size I figure the client always has the option of using 1200B packets until the handshake's done. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2467#discussion_r257067007 ----==_mimepart_5c66083ccc6d2_315a3fd9a16d45c41375e7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -when accepting 0-RTT data.  A server uses the transport parameters in
-determining whether to accept 0-RTT data.
-
-A server MAY accept 0-RTT and subsequently provide different values for
-transport parameters for use in the new connection.  If 0-RTT data is accepted
-by the server, the server MUST NOT reduce any limits or alter any values that
-might be violated by the client with its 0-RTT data.  In particular, a server
-that accepts 0-RTT data MUST NOT set values for the following parameters
-({{transport-parameter-definitions}}) that are smaller
-than the remembered value of those parameters.
+The value of the server's previous original_connection_id, preferred_address,
+stateless_reset_token, and ack_delay_exponent MUST NOT be used when
+establishing a new connection; rather, the client should wait to observe the
+server's new values in the handshake.
+
+The client MAY store the server's original max_ack_delay and max_packet_size

I figure the client always has the option of using 1200B packets until the handshake's done.

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@martinduke commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -when accepting 0-RTT data.  A server uses the transport parameters in
-determining whether to accept 0-RTT data.
-
-A server MAY accept 0-RTT and subsequently provide different values for
-transport parameters for use in the new connection.  If 0-RTT data is accepted
-by the server, the server MUST NOT reduce any limits or alter any values that
-might be violated by the client with its 0-RTT data.  In particular, a server
-that accepts 0-RTT data MUST NOT set values for the following parameters
-({{transport-parameter-definitions}}) that are smaller
-than the remembered value of those parameters.
+The value of the server's previous original_connection_id, preferred_address,
+stateless_reset_token, and ack_delay_exponent MUST NOT be used when
+establishing a new connection; rather, the client should wait to observe the
+server's new values in the handshake.
+
+The client MAY store the server's original max_ack_delay and max_packet_size

The client may find it useful to retain this information to set its 0-RTT loss timer properly, rather than having to wait for the handshake and reset it properly. Am I not thinking clearly on how this is done?

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@martinduke commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  ### Values of Transport Parameters for 0-RTT {#zerortt-parameters}
 
-A client that attempts to send 0-RTT data MUST remember the transport parameters
-used by the server.  The transport parameters that the server advertises during
-connection establishment apply to all connections that are resumed using the
-keying material established during that handshake.  Remembered transport
+The transport parameters that the server advertises during connection
+establishment generally apply to all connections that are resumed using

I like this wording. I'll try go get to this in the next few days.

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Simply making this consistent through the document by doing the minimal change and removing leading 0s. Happy to add them if we prefer.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2469

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  • Fix inconsistent leading zeros

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Should there be normative text mandating that the packet number be increased?

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Commit: ef1db5c4d58ddb2f2830e2032ddeb977cc285201 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ef1db5c4d58ddb2f2830e2032ddeb977cc285201 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-02-13 (Wed, 13 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- oops grammar Commit: 8c4d201ddaaf56c992628b63e63efe000ea89580 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8c4d201ddaaf56c992628b63e63efe000ea89580 Author: martinduke Date: 2019-02-13 (Wed, 13 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Fix packet and stream numbers in example The choices were odd for a "typical" example Commit: 5d5ef61581fc19c2b35c80544f1d43d403eaf6c8 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5d5ef61581fc19c2b35c80544f1d43d403eaf6c8 Author: martinduke Date: 2019-02-13 (Wed, 13 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Fixed final ACK the ack of 0 had already been acked, shouldn't ack any more Commit: ef33e0d2c978e514929af620a1b99a00ed4cc588 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ef33e0d2c978e514929af620a1b99a00ed4cc588 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-02-14 (Thu, 14 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #2454 from nibanks/pr/millisecond-idle-timeout Change Idle Timeout to Milliseconds Commit: d09d0a7edcac583ae2dbd6c0328a80a92518086f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d09d0a7edcac583ae2dbd6c0328a80a92518086f Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-02-14 (Thu, 14 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #2459 from quicwg/issue2147 Reword closing confirmation text Commit: 550e1da07199edbd8f74c1eecb7d4473ca93efff https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/550e1da07199edbd8f74c1eecb7d4473ca93efff Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-02-14 (Thu, 14 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #2463 from martinduke/patch-37 Fix packet and stream numbers in example Commit: 10bf5e61b5b165d7bffadbd89a533d619fc8d361 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/10bf5e61b5b165d7bffadbd89a533d619fc8d361 Author: Marten Seemann Date: 2019-02-14 (Thu, 14 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- describe what happens when the PTO timer expires (#2455) * describe what happens when the PTO timer expires * Martin's suggestion Co-Authored-By: marten-seemann * Nick's suggestion Commit: 5a15b96470fee82bf047a21e6956f1a2b7adb9ce https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5a15b96470fee82bf047a21e6956f1a2b7adb9ce Author: martinduke Date: 2019-02-14 (Thu, 14 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Address Validation Nits Although not super-important, the biggest decision in here is that the packet number of the response to a RETRY is 1. Based on interop experience, I believe this is the semi-consensus of implementers. 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----==_mimepart_5c660ccbb0491_d7f3fa819ad45c0104959-- From nobody Thu Feb 14 17:10:44 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F6D6130E5A for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 17:10:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id G5WMw8JDOwa5 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 17:10:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-11.smtp.github.com (out-11.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E23F130E58 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 17:10:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 17:10:39 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550193040; bh=HgmAqCHX4JNvDfRMhoowuurafbQv26fj+mMt8Kc3MYs=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=B9bcJWKvrSnyGYJO3Tgad3RFwua58BUWwM4de8D4DXMwinS39xqte2oYXhjexbowT 8uoDrPYGAOxN30ouax1/1XTOWziogwkG+PHyeWhVUcWB0c5l2z4tGwIIVZrBERf8GZ qKl+bwCD93cFWyFi2qZh95bCwF97CWBDvHzJKLsA= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Bound 0-to-1-RTT Transition (#2466) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c66118fd157a_465a3fbae5ed45c43791db"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 01:10:42 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c66118fd157a_465a3fbae5ed45c43791db Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What @martinthomson says. I think we can consider rephrasing the following sentence in #2461 to also suggest the possibility of using PN to detect misuse of 0-RTT packets. > A server MAY treat a violation of remembered limits as a connection error of an appropriate type (for instance, a FLOW_CONTROL_ERROR for exceeding stream data limits)." But other than that, #2461 is better. Note also that the detecting 0-RTT misuse based on PN is weaker than the one based on frame-types. This is because when the PN-based defense cannot detect an attack that replays an 0-RTT connection _that the attacker has created_. In such an attack, an attacker can send a 1-RTT packet using a large PN, then after that send 0-RTT packets with smaller packet numbers. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2466#issuecomment-463867507 ----==_mimepart_5c66118fd157a_465a3fbae5ed45c43791db Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

What @martinthomson says.

I think we can consider rephrasing the following sentence in #= 2461 to also suggest the possibility of using PN to detect misuse of = 0-RTT packets.

A server MAY treat a violation of remembered limits as a connection er= ror of an appropriate type (for instance, a FLOW_CONTROL_ERROR for exceed= ing stream data limits)."

But other than that, #2461 is better.

Note also that the detecting 0-RTT misuse based on PN is weaker than t= he one based on frame-types. This is because when the PN-based defense ca= nnot detect an attack that replays an 0-RTT connection that the attac= ker has created. In such an attack, an attacker can send a 1-RTT pac= ket using a large PN, then after that send 0-RTT packets with smaller pac= ket numbers.

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The fuss is about adding a complex enforcement requirement that no ser= vers will implement.

I disagree. Having permitted list of frame-types per each epoch is a s= ensible way of implementing a QUIC stack. In such case, you would not hav= e PATH_RESPONSE permitted for 0-RTT packets, as an example.

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= ----==_mimepart_5c6611db2316a_d993fa819ad45c040055d-- From nobody Thu Feb 14 17:19:07 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ED30130E77 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 17:19:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id o8bErLQy7fzG for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 17:19:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6D678130E6B for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 17:19:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 17:19:02 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550193542; bh=ml6uXdwTNaM+VCci2zaKHsJ9QBc69Uno8JZQc37yteo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=jI9BEHsXdQlGptFC1rJ2EiYCKMFGaUCQYQ3nRXrQY5KctoMqB4K4W+dPZj0dygL4d UwqDMhEYEICfglKFZlMZx6in7lBqcqCYB1RDeF38YxglhUp/m9qkoQJVhzy+CuTv17 JVo7EROV8ek9z9DjgfTYWh7PrE7IJVBiR+uzWfPI= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Refine Discussion of 0-RTT Transport Parameters (#2467) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c661386322b8_44593f89318d45c44756e9"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 01:19:06 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c661386322b8_44593f89318d45c44756e9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson commented on this pull request. > -when accepting 0-RTT data. A server uses the transport parameters in -determining whether to accept 0-RTT data. - -A server MAY accept 0-RTT and subsequently provide different values for -transport parameters for use in the new connection. If 0-RTT data is accepted -by the server, the server MUST NOT reduce any limits or alter any values that -might be violated by the client with its 0-RTT data. In particular, a server -that accepts 0-RTT data MUST NOT set values for the following parameters -({{transport-parameter-definitions}}) that are smaller -than the remembered value of those parameters. +The value of the server's previous original_connection_id, preferred_address, +stateless_reset_token, and ack_delay_exponent MUST NOT be used when +establishing a new connection; rather, the client should wait to observe the +server's new values in the handshake. + +The client MAY store the server's original max_ack_delay and max_packet_size The client can do that for Handshake and Initial, but not 1-RTT. 0-RTT should follow the same rules though. > -when accepting 0-RTT data. A server uses the transport parameters in -determining whether to accept 0-RTT data. - -A server MAY accept 0-RTT and subsequently provide different values for -transport parameters for use in the new connection. If 0-RTT data is accepted -by the server, the server MUST NOT reduce any limits or alter any values that -might be violated by the client with its 0-RTT data. In particular, a server -that accepts 0-RTT data MUST NOT set values for the following parameters -({{transport-parameter-definitions}}) that are smaller -than the remembered value of those parameters. +The value of the server's previous original_connection_id, preferred_address, +stateless_reset_token, and ack_delay_exponent MUST NOT be used when +establishing a new connection; rather, the client should wait to observe the +server's new values in the handshake. + +The client MAY store the server's original max_ack_delay and max_packet_size No, you are right. I think that what you have is fine for that one. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -when accepting 0-RTT data.  A server uses the transport parameters in
-determining whether to accept 0-RTT data.
-
-A server MAY accept 0-RTT and subsequently provide different values for
-transport parameters for use in the new connection.  If 0-RTT data is accepted
-by the server, the server MUST NOT reduce any limits or alter any values that
-might be violated by the client with its 0-RTT data.  In particular, a server
-that accepts 0-RTT data MUST NOT set values for the following parameters
-({{transport-parameter-definitions}}) that are smaller
-than the remembered value of those parameters.
+The value of the server's previous original_connection_id, preferred_address,
+stateless_reset_token, and ack_delay_exponent MUST NOT be used when
+establishing a new connection; rather, the client should wait to observe the
+server's new values in the handshake.
+
+The client MAY store the server's original max_ack_delay and max_packet_size

The client can do that for Handshake and Initial, but not 1-RTT. 0-RTT should follow the same rules though.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -when accepting 0-RTT data.  A server uses the transport parameters in
-determining whether to accept 0-RTT data.
-
-A server MAY accept 0-RTT and subsequently provide different values for
-transport parameters for use in the new connection.  If 0-RTT data is accepted
-by the server, the server MUST NOT reduce any limits or alter any values that
-might be violated by the client with its 0-RTT data.  In particular, a server
-that accepts 0-RTT data MUST NOT set values for the following parameters
-({{transport-parameter-definitions}}) that are smaller
-than the remembered value of those parameters.
+The value of the server's previous original_connection_id, preferred_address,
+stateless_reset_token, and ack_delay_exponent MUST NOT be used when
+establishing a new connection; rather, the client should wait to observe the
+server's new values in the handshake.
+
+The client MAY store the server's original max_ack_delay and max_packet_size

No, you are right. I think that what you have is fine for that one.

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@kazuho Limiting the list of frame types allowed in 0-RTT makes sense to me. It's not what #2461 does though

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----==_mimepart_5c6614c8f3432_22e33fa2e1ad45bc259799-- From nobody Thu Feb 14 17:41:26 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D29213107A for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 17:41:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7P7pJKZF-Ui4 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 17:41:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from o5.sgmail.github.com (o5.sgmail.github.com [192.254.113.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B0B5131078 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 17:41:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=vWOs0pBvQqAek0b4bhFYVERQsu0=; b=EL1db2vMMGmNJ/sq h4WeZsUPIunQHSv2ztgIbP24Bw7Q793eqT8SD0tOvr5XL7S6MhyS++fnGzN6leBh iKRwG2ITETPTAGc54uVuKiQN6Xk17LTT/8jlcWvj5Tzd5A0ZhP2WSAyREPtd6BAL SGLcPuMeG9ouoKvBoWVyKcES3kw= Received: by filter0633p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0633p1iad2-10464-5C6618C2-1C 2019-02-15 01:41:22.511056024 +0000 UTC m=+796862.693773516 Received: from github-lowworker-1c220e1.cp1-iad.github.net (unknown [192.30.252.44]) by ismtpd0015p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id H6GtAuPoSpSNBhwDY73PNw for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2019 01:41:22.539 +0000 (UTC) Received: from github.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by github-lowworker-1c220e1.cp1-iad.github.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81FB8160865 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 17:41:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 01:41:22 +0000 (UTC) From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Bound 0-to-1-RTT Transition (#2466) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c6618c2805f9_37fc3fa2e1ad45bc510321"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak3FDLwMSp1q7K+iFZIZOKOIt+WsfzgXyvZCn/ 81qM3BJRWIaBvn1SNZn2aKvHBeIdsP5KIfEFv1Nz5R+DmdDjDk9cvEh2lbW1CyJofA2VVY2Xcxbt1g DZZlKYaRWvSPKvd0Dgi/SE4IVrFPgKEYYAzX7vvZhEXR52oo2B616g3RDBhACRoGZLfeHgH3RSB1da A= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 01:41:25 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c6618c2805f9_37fc3fa2e1ad45bc510321 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @DavidSchinazi > Limiting the list of frame types allowed in 0-RTT makes sense to me. It's not what #2461 does though My understanding is that it implies that. See https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2461#issuecomment-463392078. Or are you suggesting to reconsider the conclusion for #2360? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2466#issuecomment-463873799 ----==_mimepart_5c6618c2805f9_37fc3fa2e1ad45bc510321 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Limiting the list of frame types allowed in 0-RTT makes sense to me. It'= s not what #2461 does though

My understanding is that it implies that. See #2461 (comment). O= r are you suggesting to reconsider the conclusion for #2360?

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Having permitted list of frame-types per each epoch is a sensible way = of implementing a QUIC stack.

Agreed. The can check that list when implementing and there are no fra= mes that suddenly sneak in unattended. When you add a frame you need to t= hink about the context. For example, what does a KEYS_ACTIVE mean in 0-RT= T?

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Should there be normative text mandating that the packet number be inc= reased?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -when accepting 0-RTT data.  A server uses the transport parameters in
-determining whether to accept 0-RTT data.
-
-A server MAY accept 0-RTT and subsequently provide different values for
-transport parameters for use in the new connection.  If 0-RTT data is accepted
-by the server, the server MUST NOT reduce any limits or alter any values that
-might be violated by the client with its 0-RTT data.  In particular, a server
-that accepts 0-RTT data MUST NOT set values for the following parameters
-({{transport-parameter-definitions}}) that are smaller
-than the remembered value of those parameters.
+The value of the server's previous original_connection_id, preferred_address,
+stateless_reset_token, and ack_delay_exponent MUST NOT be used when
+establishing a new connection; rather, the client should wait to observe the
+server's new values in the handshake.
+
+The client MAY store the server's original max_ack_delay and max_packet_size

I realize now what bothered me about max_ack_delay. This is not something you use in 0-RTT, but it is something you might remember in the same way you might remember the RTT. It's not guaranteed to be good, but it is certainly better than the defaults for return connections. You should remove this from this section and maybe add it where we talk about remembering the RTT (if we do that, it's late and I couldn't find it).

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I think this should be stated in transport as well as TLS

Agreed.

along with a statement that a server MAY/SHOULD/MUST ignore 0RTT packe= ts that have higher packet numbers than the first received 1RTT packet.

I think that this should be a MAY/SHOULD close the connection with PRO= TOCOL_VIOLATION rather than "ignore", because that aligns the handling wi= th how we agreed to handle other misuse of 0-RTT packets (see
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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -when accepting 0-RTT data.  A server uses the transport parameters in
-determining whether to accept 0-RTT data.
-
-A server MAY accept 0-RTT and subsequently provide different values for
-transport parameters for use in the new connection.  If 0-RTT data is accepted
-by the server, the server MUST NOT reduce any limits or alter any values that
-might be violated by the client with its 0-RTT data.  In particular, a server
-that accepts 0-RTT data MUST NOT set values for the following parameters
-({{transport-parameter-definitions}}) that are smaller
-than the remembered value of those parameters.
+The value of the server's previous original_connection_id, preferred_address,
+stateless_reset_token, and ack_delay_exponent MUST NOT be used when
+establishing a new connection; rather, the client should wait to observe the
+server's new values in the handshake.
+
+The client MAY store the server's original max_ack_delay and max_packet_size

Why don't you use it in 0RTT? You have to set the loss detection timer, which involves using peer max_ack_delay. If I read the recovery draft correctly?

I made it optional because I suppose someone could update the timer based on the new TPs. The more I think about it, better to just save it.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -when accepting 0-RTT data.  A server uses the transport parameters in
-determining whether to accept 0-RTT data.
-
-A server MAY accept 0-RTT and subsequently provide different values for
-transport parameters for use in the new connection.  If 0-RTT data is accepted
-by the server, the server MUST NOT reduce any limits or alter any values that
-might be violated by the client with its 0-RTT data.  In particular, a server
-that accepts 0-RTT data MUST NOT set values for the following parameters
-({{transport-parameter-definitions}}) that are smaller
-than the remembered value of those parameters.
+The value of the server's previous original_connection_id, preferred_address,
+stateless_reset_token, and ack_delay_exponent MUST NOT be used when
+establishing a new connection; rather, the client should wait to observe the
+server's new values in the handshake.
+
+The client MAY store the server's original max_ack_delay and max_packet_size

I don't understand your comment. The safe thing to do is to send 0-RTT at 1280 until a new probe can be sent. I can also understand the opposite choice, which is why this is a MAY.

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While there are some prohibitions, and an explicit MAY for responding to Long Headers, there is no normative statement for the usual use case for Stateless Reset.

I believe it's a SHOULD, but maybe someone thinks it's a MUST.

Relatedly, in 10.4.1, MUST we attempt to detect Stateless Reset, or MAY endpoints just drop after decrypt failure?

At the end of 10.4.2, MUST we not reuse connection IDs if there's a static key? (I think the answer is yes)

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Should the following line be rto calculation from RFC 6298?

PTO = max(smoothed_rtt + 4*rttvar + max_ack_delay, kGranularity)

in that case it should be:

PTO = smoothed_rtt + max(4*rttvar, kGranularity) + max_ack_delay

do I miss something?

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There's nothing in the spec that prohibits this, except from zero to not zero. But should there be?

  1. For the receiver, it's a bit annoying to have to store the length of each additional connection ID
  2. We could eliminate the length field from the frame
  3. If we're concerned about changes from zero-length being detectable, we should also be concerned about length changes being detectable. Ultimately, the complexity of handling this is the problem of the endpoint generating the connection ID, so if you want to do this to yourself, go for it. The use case for going from zero to not-zero (unexpectedly needing migration) is as relevant as changing between non-zero lengths (migrating existing connections when the routing scheme totally changes)

I would recommend one of the following:
A) New CIDs must retain the same length
B) Remove all restrictions on CID length changes - I sorta lean towards this one, but I think both are better than the status quo.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2670,9 +2670,10 @@ complete.  Though the values of some fields in the packet header might be
 redundant, no fields are omitted.  The receiver of coalesced QUIC packets MUST
 individually process each QUIC packet and separately acknowledge them, as if
 they were received as the payload of different UDP datagrams.  For example, if
-decryption fails (because the keys are not available or any other reason), the
-the receiver MAY either discard or buffer the packet for later processing and
-MUST attempt to process the remaining packets.
+decryption fails (because the keys are not available, the UDP datagram is a PMTU
+probe (see {{pmtu-probes-src-cid}}), or any other reason), the the receiver MAY

@MikeBishop, I am trying to make sure there are no unanswered concerns left about this text.

I know you've approved the text they way it is. So you you think it is ok as is (and we can Resolve this), or should we work on making a change similar to the one I've outlined above? Or something else?

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I brought this up on the PR when we added the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame and it was decided that some folks thought it was a feature that (nonzero length) CIDs could length if they wanted...

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Section 11.1 says:
"An endpoint that receives an invalid CONNECTION_CLOSE frame MUST NOT signal the existence of the error to its peer."

Editorially, it is not clear to me whether I am to suppress the error code in the CONNECTION_CLOSE frame or the error I generate when I receive an invalid frame.

Moreover, I am not sure what constitutes an invalid CONNECTION_CLOSE frame. The words don't occur elsewhere. Section 19.19 doesn't define any fatal errors for this type. I can imagine a Reason Length that overruns the packet, or perhaps an undefined error code? A bogus frame type? We should probably define those in 19.19.

Perhaps this sentence is an artifact from before we were throwing away Initial keys agressively?

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If you suppress the error, does it matter which error you do not send?

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----==_mimepart_5c66fbfa4e1_39b33fb86fcd45bc2070f7-- From nobody Fri Feb 15 09:53:06 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D41C813104A for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2019 09:53:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Vmlge7OgFs5p for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2019 09:53:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3628513103C for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2019 09:53:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 09:53:01 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550253182; bh=Zal4t0yAhSZTirZL/qzMLvQHZjs2tiwtUAPTqiZFj8w=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=NItpqK+o7IjYjDYgx9N5v3rN47uTR7cerFJ64ginge7J5Ap8geQaXm+rYOWv/6t55 PUzyOduGtL5ufmdi7ORbEIql85AReIS+XXX4hc7Qibcoz503AnUpGk/9jIfSfBCMaY jP61SQPagwZ8TbKOiDEIyHydEeu/r35BQ2lrAvhU= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Connection ID Length changes (#2473) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c66fc7ded7b2_6ece3fa0fcad45bc1828d0"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 17:53:05 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c66fc7ded7b2_6ece3fa0fcad45bc1828d0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There are routing implications going from 0 to non-zero. A 0 would be a 5-tuple hash, or so. Suddenly changing that could confuse middle boxes. It could also change some privacy assumptions made by the peer when accepting the connection. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2473#issuecomment-464140068 ----==_mimepart_5c66fc7ded7b2_6ece3fa0fcad45bc1828d0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

There are routing implications going from 0 to non-zero. A 0 would be a 5-tuple hash, or so. Suddenly changing that could confuse middle boxes. It could also change some privacy assumptions made by the peer when accepting the connection.

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The deleted parenthetical is not accurate, and is unnecessary: 0-RTT and 1-RTT with various key phases share a PN space without sharing keys.

I prefer the MUST NOT in coalescing, but if there are objections I can revert it.

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@mikkelfj This is entirely up to the endpoint generating the CIDs, yes? Endpoints already need to be aware of their routing architecture.

I don't understand the privacy implications you allude to.

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I'm not sure what the intent of the sentence is. Do I send PROTOCOL_VIOLATION but not the error code in the frame? Do I send nothing?

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= ----==_mimepart_5c66fffe13f0d_6f523f92ae4d45c42350b0-- From nobody Fri Feb 15 10:10:48 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC9A5130FCA for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2019 10:10:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fjm2-gQjfeup for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2019 10:10:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 693E1130FAF for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2019 10:10:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 10:10:44 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550254244; bh=DRUfF/YYLQX6piotPI1FkWM35daiyon8eJfRHYetx2Q=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=yuDitxP/JYiCeszp/JFIzC4MF5tZ0fQ0Wa0ZoWyZJYhwkk3y2b/Djj4+LnCfgg82v 7tA6yAC5IZHOPDZ3jbVEDoINSbAZDqRf0sav/U0p3U4PKOtpQfT7Zn2p3Exr6INB09 EK0klCZ83BdLG53EKsqoa7lzBCu8UqlL4qf5dgO8= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Invalid CONNECTION_CLOSE frames (#2475) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c6700a4449da_661d3f7e184d45c427003e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 18:10:47 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c6700a4449da_661d3f7e184d45c427003e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As I read it, you should not send anything if you see CONNECTION_CLOSE. As to the motivation, I'm not quite sure, but if the peer closes but does it badly, chances are that anything you send just results in stateless resets. Maybe there can also be some malicious intend, especially in early handshake, but I don't think that is the reason. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2475#issuecomment-464145642 ----==_mimepart_5c6700a4449da_661d3f7e184d45c427003e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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All good apart from the MUST NOT.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2594,7 +2594,7 @@ MUST attempt to process the remaining packets.
 
 Retry packets ({{packet-retry}}), Version Negotiation packets
 ({{packet-version}}), and packets with a short header ({{short-header}}) do not
-contain a Length field and so cannot be followed by other packets in the same
+contain a Length field and so MUST NOT be followed by other packets in the same

I prefer cannot. It isn't an interoperability requirement that these not be followed by anything else, it is an outright impossibility.

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Thanks, given it seems to be a core goal of the QUIC design to avoid trial decryption, that makes sense.

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It is not clear to me what this bug is about. @martinduke, do you propose that NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames always carry CIDs of the same length for a given connection?

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----==_mimepart_5c6708397975f_5cc63fb0704d45bc2032a5-- From nobody Fri Feb 15 10:55:07 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92A71130DD3 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2019 10:55:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yLpcODcMHs-M for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2019 10:55:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 83AD312F1A2 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2019 10:55:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 10:55:00 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550256900; bh=SOanLTzDgTq6bU/SrVcCTJxkRAxcF0zQVufBV1mlqhU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=WxHyGEv7HH/ub1GtFRxlqOBBwq1aNwpuQM945N1vMJuPgB2P/zeeBgmjFsH+HLoLJ LoVBKNRg1GQMvfmtq0EI0dcGCTTjlWbukss14PmoZYN3yrY6a3XvQ69EyJ+lhwSKpC YICTOM+yPtW/8NCSrtUxNmR0PVi/bRpU4eYwIWYM= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_[quicwg/base-drafts]_Describe_PMTU_probing_that?= =?UTF-8?Q?_includes_source_connection_ID_for_routing_=E2=80=A6_=28#2402=29?= Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c670b04ca21a_7ab53fee1a6d45b488579"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 18:55:06 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c670b04ca21a_7ab53fee1a6d45b488579 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MikeBishop commented on this pull request. > @@ -2670,9 +2670,10 @@ complete. Though the values of some fields in the packet header might be redundant, no fields are omitted. The receiver of coalesced QUIC packets MUST individually process each QUIC packet and separately acknowledge them, as if they were received as the payload of different UDP datagrams. For example, if -decryption fails (because the keys are not available or any other reason), the -the receiver MAY either discard or buffer the packet for later processing and -MUST attempt to process the remaining packets. +decryption fails (because the keys are not available, the UDP datagram is a PMTU +probe (see {{pmtu-probes-src-cid}}), or any other reason), the the receiver MAY The idea behind your suggested change reads better, yes. The specific suggested change has other issues that I assume are caused in part by other lines having changed: > Receivers MUST be able to probe (...), or any other reason), the the receiver MAY process coalesced packets. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2402#discussion_r257351086 ----==_mimepart_5c670b04ca21a_7ab53fee1a6d45b488579 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2670,9 +2670,10 @@ complete.  Though the values of some fields in the packet header might be
 redundant, no fields are omitted.  The receiver of coalesced QUIC packets MUST
 individually process each QUIC packet and separately acknowledge them, as if
 they were received as the payload of different UDP datagrams.  For example, if
-decryption fails (because the keys are not available or any other reason), the
-the receiver MAY either discard or buffer the packet for later processing and
-MUST attempt to process the remaining packets.
+decryption fails (because the keys are not available, the UDP datagram is a PMTU
+probe (see {{pmtu-probes-src-cid}}), or any other reason), the the receiver MAY

The idea behind your suggested change reads better, yes. The specific suggested change has other issues that I assume are caused in part by other lines having changed:

Receivers MUST be able to probe (...), or any other reason), the the receiver MAY process coalesced packets.

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I think this is addressing the injected packet case -- if you ignore an injected CONNECTION_CLOSE, you shouldn't send the real peer anything about it, or you've just allowed an attacker to inject authenticated traffic in the connection.

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I think this was a small error in the PR that moved from TLP + RTO -> PTO, but @janaiyengar may have had a reason to make this change I'm not aware of.

If not, I'd suggest we change the draft to align with RFC 6298.

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If you have a "mixed" connection, you lose the ability to reject packets= because the CID is unknown; it might be your zero-length CID, so you have = to try to process packets with unknown CIDs. But also, if you do = recognize the CID and it fails to decrypt, you have to decrypt it again -- = it might be a ZLCID packet where the packet number happens to encrypt into = a valid CID! So I agree, let's not do that.

I don't feel strongly about requiring all CIDs on the connection to be t= he same length, save to note that it's not implausible for a server to reac= h a case where it must either kill a connection or increase the CID size be= ing used. (Let's say that all/enough CIDs in the previous size have been a= llocated already.)

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On that account, it should be a requirement that CID's are compared constant time, otherwise they are easy to guess anyway.

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----==_mimepart_5c67154212ead_38e63fb5750d45c0646c7-- From nobody Fri Feb 15 11:44:44 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1812F130FF2 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2019 11:44:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id onGIlRTBW1Bi for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2019 11:44:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0A30A130FFC for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2019 11:44:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 11:44:33 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550259873; bh=A8ttn4AuDefiO8pzyvV3zS/Ew1c74ZpuEJJV0KRfcck=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=0qoy/GMlOKJDlMscmvnMzg+MTR2ImW5xOt+bsCp4h5guBHCc+thvYEuYriWvEszYd +203alsOnoCwVOra3nQKL+GlQ86fC2F+LvhjT5W7Ko98NjeqtFLJOj3zNlXNpUoxZu fb6x0k7BByganN3B8PZ45spEU3MNByaOxBGwU6ok= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] CID's should be compared in constant time (#2477) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c6716a1c7e93_51e13ff47bad45bc1005d4"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 19:44:41 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c6716a1c7e93_51e13ff47bad45bc1005d4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [If a CID can be seen or guessed, an attacker can make you decrypt garbage packets. On-path attackers can see; nothing to do about that. If the time it takes you to reject an invalid CID can be observed, an attacker can guess and check possible CIDs.] On that account, it should be a requirement that CID's are compared constant time, otherwise they are easy to guess anyway. _Originally posted by @mikkelfj in https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2441#issuecomment-464173546_ -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2477 ----==_mimepart_5c6716a1c7e93_51e13ff47bad45bc1005d4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

[If a CID can be seen or guessed, an attacker can make you decrypt garbage packets. On-path attackers can see; nothing to do about that. If the time it takes you to reject an invalid CID can be observed, an attacker can guess and check possible CIDs.]

On that account, it should be a requirement that CID's are compared constant time, otherwise they are easy to guess anyway.

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However, if you have to be on path to observe processing time, this is moot.

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I don't understand the trial decryption argument.

An inherent property of zero length is that I must trial decrypt any p= kt with unknown connection id, so the existence of non-zero-length IDs is= orthogonal to this point.

If I have a ZL and non ZL CID, on every packet I do a simple byte comp= are to check which it is, then decrypt. No trial decryption required.

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@MikeBishop I think you're describing migration with only ZLCID, which IMO would still be illegal.

If a short header comes in from a new address, simply match a known local CID, like for any other non-ZLCID connection. If no match, drop it.

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So you're suggesting that clients MUST use a CID until the path has be= en validated and then MAY switch back to the zero-length CID? Hm. That = does still have the double-decrypt case for a valid CID on an established= path, but that should be vanishingly rare outside of an attack.

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@MikeBishop you are ahead if me and thinking about going from non ZLCID to ZLCID. That is not what I'm proposing, and would have to think about it.

For the moment, do you see a trial decryption issue if we allow ZL to nonZL transitions only?

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----==_mimepart_5c67254a8984e_37503fec32cd45c0115446-- From nobody Fri Feb 15 12:47:53 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC64C131091 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2019 12:47:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TmDK624a9Tsh for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2019 12:47:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DDD0A13109A for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2019 12:47:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 12:47:48 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550263668; bh=9EtYmv9+zB5f8OC9+QK9rrGE7wDhQEMGBUtqyBzBefg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=GQ35KxOPppJcdmEzf6+zOnYHOqyRe+uwCDu8R+bCSx6vmLTFCy+TJjusIk0QltzRx dlwZiH+0KQct2p19te4veGKxasS4Bi/CWaiOKb0HczwkGC3QrtZmCAoCM8GQNAryFX f7eJdk2+G2gV1d82Eh2qyRJpbdbh6y30wagqfKW8= From: martinduke Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Connection ID Length changes (#2473) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c6725745b05_70423fd7dbcd45b82700fc"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinduke X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 20:47:52 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c6725745b05_70423fd7dbcd45b82700fc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @mikkelfj why ban it we're not sure? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2473#issuecomment-464193582 ----==_mimepart_5c6725745b05_70423fd7dbcd45b82700fc Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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... unnecessary complexity and risk. But granted, there ought to be justifications for the requirements set.

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There's nothing in the spec that prohibits this, except from zero to n= ot zero.

Going from non-zero to zero is also prohibited. NCID cannot carry a ze= ro-length CID. Prohibiting it makes sense, because a server can have at m= ost one connection that uses a zero-length CID, assuming that the CID mig= ht be used for a new path (that's the intent of delivering a CID in a NCI= D frame).

While I think it's possible to design an endpoint that does zero-to-no= n-zero transition without trial decryption, I think forbidding both ways = is cleaner. Is there a particular benefit in supporting zero-to-non-zero = transition?

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If a short header comes in from a new address, simply match a known loca= l CID, like for any other non-ZLCID connection. If no match, drop it.

The issue with the approach is that the server cannot distinguish betwee= n a connection that it has lost state and a broken packet with zero-length = CID. The server loses the ability to send stateless resets for all of the c= onnections it handles.

Note: IIUC, a server is expected to generate stateless reset tokens by u= sing 5-tuple (if CIDL=3D0) or by using CID (if CIDL!=3D0).

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= ----==_mimepart_5c673eb8d9a96_4a73fc1e70d45c4577bd-- From nobody Fri Feb 15 14:44:10 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6727112E036 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2019 14:44:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XZ50c9fGK38U for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2019 14:44:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 52C94131122 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2019 14:44:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 14:44:05 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550270645; bh=Mav9xyqfu8kYpe8AheiH3MxQ05OOZ0baXVgxxleaaHI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=y7IGdnFrotrvGsLJ/+Zfb0YR9zhu6hKjUbGmM1QVsrAWAL1rKP+6Qxc+/d2cbAFCD 4jJXDu1v7aZr6wNsHncjue95uBZqV5K+F1w1pAlydsyBlapD0qFUKhHRX/DJhogFyP kLx8TnJfvMVrnGKSsNsHC3qxZXbJA+Px54/jzDlM= From: martinduke Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Connection ID Length changes (#2473) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c6740b5409e8_79593f90258d45c414681b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinduke X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 22:44:09 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c6740b5409e8_79593f90258d45c414681b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @kazuho > a server can have no more than one connection that uses a zero-length CID, assuming that the CID might be used for a new path (that's the intent of delivering a CID in a NCID frame). Why not? ZLCID connections are separated by 4-tuple. One of the clients proposes a new CID. Then something comes in a new address with the CID previously proposed. It seems fairly simple to distinguish the two. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2473#issuecomment-464232597 ----==_mimepart_5c6740b5409e8_79593f90258d45c414681b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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@kazuho I'm not suggesting to change the conclusion for #2360, I'd just prefer to not add non-mandatory server checks that no one will implement

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@martinduke Here's an example.

The server has two connections; A (using client address IPaddrA) and B (using address IPaddrB). The server issues zero-l= ength CIDs to both of the connections.

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@DavidSchinazi Spec-wise, my view is that we should re= commend (or at least state that it's possible for) servers can enforce TP= -values of previous TLS connection for 0-RTT packets, because not doing s= o means that the threat model of 0-RTT in QUIC will be different from tha= t of TLS 1.3.

TLS 1.3 uses max_early_data_size field of NewSessionTicke= t message to cap the amount of application data the client is allowed to = send in 0-RTT. And we have already built things around it. For example, <= a href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8470#section-3" rel=3D"nofollow"= >RFC 8470 section 3 states, quote: A server can limit the amount = of early data with the "max_early_data_size" field of the "early_data" TL= S extension. This can be used to avoid committing an arbitrary amount of= memory for requests that it might defer until the handshake completes.

Unless we provide a mechanism to replace the function that replaces max_early_data_size in QUIC, not only HTTP but every applicati= on protocol will be required to have different security considerations fo= r using 0-RTT of TLS 1.3 and QUIC.

And implementation-wise, I think H2O/quicly might implement this due t= o the following reasons:

  • H2O/quicly buffers requests that were deemed to early, instead of for= warding 425 to the client. Therefore we have memory pressure caused by 0-= RTT stream data. That needs to be capped.
  • It is after the HEADERS frame for the 0-RTT request is read out from = the receive buffer that H2O receives a 425 from upstream. That means that= we cannot rely on transport-level back pressure to avoid the peer sendin= g additional data.

My understanding is that this type of implementation (i.e. buffering r= equests deemed to early, reading out HEADERS frame from receive buffer) i= s something we expect to see, and therefore it'd be unsurprising to see o= thers also enforcing the limit.

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A CID from NEW_CONNECTION_ID might also be used to reduce linkability = following an idle period, and if non-ZLCID to ZLCID transition were permi= tted, it might also be used for a client to explicitly opt-out of support= for migration in exchange for reduced overhead. Initiating a migration w= ith a ZLCID doesn't make sense, but these other cases seems reasonable to= me.

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= ----==_mimepart_5c6762e7b0ade_23213feefc6d45b81165b1-- From nobody Fri Feb 15 19:19:56 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E5E3130E11 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2019 19:19:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wY4iYkEeIUco for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2019 19:19:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B3FD1130DEC for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2019 19:19:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 19:19:51 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550287191; bh=AuuYRTgw4Z11JbzX1J3vYjNHvnBz+DdiNoAB4H0WQ7s=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=F/pJ9yCCrTr178dpT1GNVyHtwuQTp6MKuVhbH8OO5v11KruXV4b9JI2N+/EWMEX52 U49Ce3K5VBwjbihEUjHsALhTvnxASc3fWG6ug4qVgKGAi3gNZmWZBIknHlD1zR5Nge 2tLKzOA5aFiz5OO25Y79jIws4DTKi57x4eIYIyek= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] CID's should be compared in constant time (#2477) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c678157c76f4_192a3faeed8d45c419614"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2019 03:19:55 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c678157c76f4_192a3faeed8d45c419614 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think @mikkelfj is technically correct. A simple attack would be like the following. Assume there's a server using an ordered list to maintain CIDs. When it receives a packet, it scans the list in ascending order until it finds a matching CID (or if reaches the end of the list without finding one). An attacker can bisect the server to see which CIDs is active, by observing the difference in the latency of receiving stateless resets. This is much convenient than a brute-force attack that tries every possible CID to see if one is active. If we need to be clear about the constant time requirement is a different question. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2477#issuecomment-464278972 ----==_mimepart_5c678157c76f4_192a3faeed8d45c419614 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I think @mikkelfj is technically correct. A simple attack wo= uld be like the following.

Assume there's a server using an ordered list to maintain CIDs. When i= t receives a packet, it scans the list in ascending order until it finds = a matching CID (or if reaches the end of the list without finding one).

An attacker can bisect the server to see which CIDs is active, by obse= rving the difference in the latency of receiving stateless resets. This i= s much convenient than a brute-force attack that tries every possible CID= to see if one is active.

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I=E2=80=99m not sure it is worth reqiiring. Then we should also say co= nstant time hash tables should br salted.

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Note that popular Splay trees are vulnerable to manipulation.

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Disabling Reset could be a recommendation if under attack.

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This is rather far-fetched. This requirement does not belong in the spec.

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Either I have been very unclear, or I am proposing something that make= s a simple error so that it is confusing everybody. Here is what I am pro= posing to allow (CIDs are letters)

Client = Server
[ Connection already setup; client has no CID ]
IP: 1.1.1.1 to 2.2.2.2 (DCID A) ----->
(contains NEW_CONN_ID B)
<--- IP: 2.2.2.2 to 1.1.1.1 (no DCID)
(contains NEW_CONN_ID C)
(exchange continues with IP addresses above, with no CID to client and CI= D A to server)
(then there's an address change)
IP: 3.3.3.3 to 2.2.2.2 (DCID C) -------->
<---- IP: 2.2.2.2 to 3.3.3.3 (DCID B)

This is the case I am concerned about. I do not see, at the moment, an= y reason why switching "client" and "server" above should make a differen= ce.

What I am definitely NOT proposing is that an endpoint migrate while n= ever accepting a non-ZL CID.

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Format fail, try again

Client Server=
[ Connection already setup; client has no CID ]
IP: 1.1.1.1 to 2.2.2.2 (DCID A) ----->
(contains NEW_CONN_ID B)
<--- IP: 2.2.2.2 to 1.1.1.1 (no DCID)
(contains NEW_CONN_ID C)
(exchange continues with IP addresses above, with no CID to client and CI= D A to server)
(then there's an address change)
IP: 3.3.3.3 to 2.2.2.2 (DCID C) -------->
<---- IP: 2.2.2.2 to 3.3.3.3 (DCID B)

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= ----==_mimepart_5c685216e4ed2_a893f8f4b0d45c056493e-- From nobody Sat Feb 16 10:11:27 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D598130F06 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2019 10:11:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3U040SLy-t3y for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2019 10:11:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 69D52130F05 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2019 10:11:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2019 10:11:23 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550340683; bh=zRMHD5Xnh4rn05IjU8fm1ylVLKjNeIDkQQ2Euy5kXT0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Nmjd/XZjOtuU+uT+MUrk0G7SPwXXUL8BJ3c9/n0THWAOidFSt0tYxnNucKsS54Tl9 420Q6X2So8h6GAwOgyxIpjx27Hb6miXCA4IBA5Ad4Ve+uVwu+TaJKfgiCL3w0GnWmv MC7cQR3YcRj0YyHRCenULzOAFzV1qFiUJ/0y0vLk= From: martinduke Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Connection ID Length changes (#2473) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c68524b4352d_56be3fe8678d45c090849b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinduke X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2019 18:11:26 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c68524b4352d_56be3fe8678d45c090849b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Format fail, try again Client Server [ Connection already setup; client has no CID ] IP: 1.1.1.1 to 2.2.2.2 (DCID A) -----> (contains NEW_CONN_ID B) <--- IP: 2.2.2.2 to 1.1.1.1 (no DCID) (contains NEW_CONN_ID C) (exchange continues with IP addresses above, with no CID to client and CID A to server) (then there's an address change) IP: 3.3.3.3 to 2.2.2.2 (DCID C) --------> <---- IP: 2.2.2.2 to 3.3.3.3 (DCID B) -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2473#issuecomment-464368548 ----==_mimepart_5c68524b4352d_56be3fe8678d45c090849b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Format fail, try again

Client Server
[ Connection already setup; client has no CID ]
IP: 1.1.1.1 to 2.2.2.2 (DCID A) ----->
(contains NEW_CONN_ID B)
<--- IP: 2.2.2.2 to 1.1.1.1 (no DCID)
(contains NEW_CONN_ID C)
(exchange continues with IP addresses above, with no CID to client and CI= D A to server)
(then there's an address change)
IP: 3.3.3.3 to 2.2.2.2 (DCID C) -------->
<---- IP: 2.2.2.2 to 3.3.3.3 (DCID B)

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= ----==_mimepart_5c68524b4352d_56be3fe8678d45c090849b-- From nobody Sat Feb 16 13:24:54 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F44E13104E for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2019 13:24:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NRcLhWAuQZqd for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2019 13:24:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 32914131006 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2019 13:24:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2019 13:24:43 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550352283; bh=jketyFZASuEN5Djak25Oe3Nsci+y8IJhEdLcjjBC/Es=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=jUm7HG99CG+Vylh6pnNZgBLOVkLFT3/fhGKu0NgrySxWzV7xziZLKrqOjiJ/eXCW4 D7g2kztzQy4Jlb/kkuldYc/rwWTjeyNNROtuJqH79BQDvbFlr7ylPcEIvnmbkH8INw +cDfdYTHnCtaqiPQYnxeJy6s2pSm9fh9Z89ZJdq0= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Connection ID Length changes (#2473) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c687f9ba53b2_19b63fc8484d45b8324310"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2019 21:24:51 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c687f9ba53b2_19b63fc8484d45b8324310 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @kazuho The server can also statelessly reset the connection if it has no state by 5-tuple, as you mention above. I don't have a very strong feeling on this, but it seems like another thing we forbid that has some potentially valid uses with drawbacks we don't like. Unless we think this is actively harmful, I'd prefer to allow this. If a server never wants to transition to/from a 0-len CID, it's easy for it to do that. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2473#issuecomment-464387118 ----==_mimepart_5c687f9ba53b2_19b63fc8484d45b8324310 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@kazuho The server can also statelessly reset the connection if= it has no state by 5-tuple, as you mention above.

I don't have a very strong feeling on this, but it seems like another = thing we forbid that has some potentially valid uses with drawbacks we do= n't like. Unless we think this is actively harmful, I'd prefer to allow = this.

If a server never wants to transition to/from a 0-len CID, it's easy f= or it to do that.

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= ----==_mimepart_5c687f9ba53b2_19b63fc8484d45b8324310-- From nobody Sat Feb 16 18:45:21 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D14D3126D00 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2019 18:45:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oIqDqi-3JLBN for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2019 18:45:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C490124BF6 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2019 18:45:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2019 18:45:15 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550371515; bh=+/JFbfAvtMyyvFZRPMCtLbd7MeiivAyJxQS0gCQXwRc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Bi+0coXKN1u/CsQilT0m4sF496m2b+5TFkhzsUVmVw8fZoVSzvEFs/opiRDeiO6cg C0i+neEhZruqhaZOUbcQ0yCg+0a5LZLxzo/ldHcjdcTS5PMthqA/IKHiAp3/BBzo8M nZnejB+UqjceIeF3aCEN8qq0BS/vgZpzCqKvB7Jk= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Connection ID Length changes (#2473) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c68cabb480ea_493a3fdcabcd45c035143"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 02:45:19 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c68cabb480ea_493a3fdcabcd45c035143 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @martinduke > Either I have been very unclear, or I am proposing something that makes a simple error so that it is confusing everybody. Here is what I am proposing to allow (CIDs are letters) I think it works, though I wonder why the client needs to switch to using a zero-length client CID when it migrates. Can't it just continue using a zero-length client CID? @ianswett > The server can also statelessly reset the connection if it has no state by 5-tuple, as you mention above. Please let me retract that, because it's wrong. The design of stateless reset requires the source of the reset token to not be reused. That's something the sender of stateless reset can enforce when using CIDs, but not when relying on the 5-tuple. Quoting from section 10.4.2 of the transport draft: _This design relies on the peer always sending a connection ID in its packets so that the endpoint can use the connection ID from a packet to reset the connection. An endpoint that uses this design MUST either use the same connection ID length for all connections or encode the length of the connection ID such that it can be recovered without state. In addition, it cannot provide a zero-length connection ID._ > I don't have a very strong feeling on this, but it seems like another thing we forbid that has some potentially valid uses with drawbacks we don't like. Unless we think this is actively harmful, I'd prefer to allow this. I would not oppose to allowing it, though the premise would be that it does not introduce complexity to other implementations that would not be using the feature, because I do not understand the practical benefit. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2473#issuecomment-464410321 ----==_mimepart_5c68cabb480ea_493a3fdcabcd45c035143 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@martinduke

Either I have been very unclear, or I am proposing something that make= s a simple error so that it is confusing everybody. Here is what I am pro= posing to allow (CIDs are letters)

I think it works, though I wonder why the client needs to switch to us= ing a zero-length client CID when it migrates. Can't it just continue usi= ng a zero-length client CID?

@ianswett

The server can also statelessly reset the connection if it has no stat= e by 5-tuple, as you mention above.

Please let me retract that, because it's wrong. The design of stateles= s reset requires the source of the reset token to not be reused. That's s= omething the sender of stateless reset can enforce when using CIDs, but n= ot when relying on the 5-tuple. Quoting from section 10.4.2 of the transp= ort draft: This design relies on the peer always sending a connection= ID in its packets so that the endpoint can use the connection ID from a = packet to reset the connection. An endpoint that uses this design MUST ei= ther use the same connection ID length for all connections or encode the = length of the connection ID such that it can be recovered without state. = In addition, it cannot provide a zero-length connection ID.

I don't have a very strong feeling on this, but it seems like another = thing we forbid that has some potentially valid uses with drawbacks we do= n't like. Unless we think this is actively harmful, I'd prefer to allow t= his.

I would not oppose to allowing it, though the premise would be that it= does not introduce complexity to other implementations that would not be= using the feature, because I do not understand the practical benefit.

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@kazuho To avoid trial decryption!

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----==_mimepart_5c68dc5c3f2ea_57b73f98ceed45bc117836-- From nobody Sat Feb 16 23:38:13 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6434E128B01 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2019 23:38:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zZErCr9VZLe2 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2019 23:38:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 88C93127AC2 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2019 23:38:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2019 23:38:08 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550389088; bh=3k6zzN3H2fmFb4Xa3GlzX3+AG6TEJDktQy0D96WB5lQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=XBvU/LSe5rJC8i+0Pv8gq1NpJEN1CZcz/iPes2C44h/MsNVMtCxbtm8TSnArnEQ4r V6ovaVatLksDuDKTmw60zeTLzFieD34XYYta+7rs1xBhs6Z/+mKg12sCey8DH5FLIY /xRijINa2qv7yrke45hMnQHvnNTGKKrue1vHNX8w= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Connection ID Length changes (#2473) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c690f60c954b_76ce3ff61eed45b421365b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 07:38:12 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c690f60c954b_76ce3ff61eed45b421365b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @martinduke IIUC, generally speaking, trial decryption becomes inevitable for a client when it coalesces multiple connections that uses the same server 2-tuple onto a single socket. In the approach you describe, the client is not coalescing multiple connections in such a way on a single socket when it initiates the connection, because it is initially using zero-length CID. But it sounds like that the client will be using the socket in such a way on a socket it decides to migrate. What I do not see is the rationale behind such a design. If the client's preference is to minimize the network bandwidth (by using zero-length CIDs), shouldn't it use zero-length CIDs for subsequent paths that it migrates the connection to? That's possible, as long as it does not coalesce multiple connections that share the same server 2-tuple onto a single socket. The simplest way of doing that is to use a dedicated socket for each connection. Or if the client's preference is to minimize the number of sockets it maintains, shouldn't it be always using non-zero-length CIDs from when it initiates a new connection? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2473#issuecomment-464425588 ----==_mimepart_5c690f60c954b_76ce3ff61eed45b421365b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@martinduke IIUC, generally speaking, trial decryption b= ecomes inevitable for a client when it coalesces multiple connections tha= t uses the same server 2-tuple onto a single socket.

In the approach you describe, the client is not coalescing multiple co= nnections in such a way on a single socket when it initiates the connecti= on, because it is initially using zero-length CID. But it sounds like tha= t the client will be using the socket in such a way on a socket it decide= s to migrate.

What I do not see is the rationale behind such a design.

If the client's preference is to minimize the network bandwidth (by us= ing zero-length CIDs), shouldn't it use zero-length CIDs for subsequent p= aths that it migrates the connection to? That's possible, as long as it d= oes not coalesce multiple connections that share the same server 2-tuple = onto a single socket. The simplest way of doing that is to use a dedicate= d socket for each connection.

Or if the client's preference is to minimize the number of sockets it = maintains, shouldn't it be always using non-zero-length CIDs from when it= initiates a new connection?

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= ----==_mimepart_5c690f60c954b_76ce3ff61eed45b421365b-- From nobody Sun Feb 17 11:32:57 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5406612D4EC for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2019 11:32:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id C8tz6es75sJR for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2019 11:32:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 95210129619 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2019 11:32:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 11:32:53 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550431973; bh=arl6wmUHQIDH7E3KzLjOWCNFmSTBz9bno32z7+pkLd0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=1anbU1B0UO4BZLh3XE6M43PVjJ4mxYloa8LbclmbS8LxLL0XKROA1q+3UiPiriu+n r15LJKU2KOVtTX+qsKnZKbev2hKccVCUyJuTZImLGETFP179pHBiB7uFhz/ih4H+8G MjTp0aH+sJTjhhU3Okixp3PDmLJ2x7ty34LqoAVA= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Refine Discussion of 0-RTT Transport Parameters (#2467) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c69b6e516164_b073f848bad45b816205b3"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 19:32:56 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c69b6e516164_b073f848bad45b816205b3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson commented on this pull request. > -when accepting 0-RTT data. A server uses the transport parameters in -determining whether to accept 0-RTT data. - -A server MAY accept 0-RTT and subsequently provide different values for -transport parameters for use in the new connection. If 0-RTT data is accepted -by the server, the server MUST NOT reduce any limits or alter any values that -might be violated by the client with its 0-RTT data. In particular, a server -that accepts 0-RTT data MUST NOT set values for the following parameters -({{transport-parameter-definitions}}) that are smaller -than the remembered value of those parameters. +The value of the server's previous original_connection_id, preferred_address, +stateless_reset_token, and ack_delay_exponent MUST NOT be used when +establishing a new connection; rather, the client should wait to observe the +server's new values in the handshake. + +The client MAY store the server's original max_ack_delay and max_packet_size The point of max_packet_size is to limit the size of packets. I realize that if you are making a new connection, the limit applies only to 1-RTT packets because Initial and Handshake packets are sent without knowing what the limits are (the server could comply with a request to send smaller Handshake packets, and maybe the client could also, but it's not something we can guarantee). However, when sending 0-RTT, you know what the limit was, so why not respect it? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2467#discussion_r257519311 ----==_mimepart_5c69b6e516164_b073f848bad45b816205b3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -when accepting 0-RTT data.  A server uses the transport parameters in
-determining whether to accept 0-RTT data.
-
-A server MAY accept 0-RTT and subsequently provide different values for
-transport parameters for use in the new connection.  If 0-RTT data is accepted
-by the server, the server MUST NOT reduce any limits or alter any values that
-might be violated by the client with its 0-RTT data.  In particular, a server
-that accepts 0-RTT data MUST NOT set values for the following parameters
-({{transport-parameter-definitions}}) that are smaller
-than the remembered value of those parameters.
+The value of the server's previous original_connection_id, preferred_address,
+stateless_reset_token, and ack_delay_exponent MUST NOT be used when
+establishing a new connection; rather, the client should wait to observe the
+server's new values in the handshake.
+
+The client MAY store the server's original max_ack_delay and max_packet_size

The point of max_packet_size is to limit the size of packets. I realize that if you are making a new connection, the limit applies only to 1-RTT packets because Initial and Handshake packets are sent without knowing what the limits are (the server could comply with a request to send smaller Handshake packets, and maybe the client could also, but it's not something we can guarantee). However, when sending 0-RTT, you know what the limit was, so why not respect it?

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This is more about the looping case: sending CONNECTION_CLOSE in response to CONNECTION_CLOSE. But it is badly worded.

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I prefer the MUST NOT in coalescing, but if there are objections I can revert it. Commit: 406827459ab28fe105236b4280b86d3547c8ef15 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/406827459ab28fe105236b4280b86d3547c8ef15 Author: martinduke Date: 2019-02-15 (Fri, 15 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Reverting MUST NOT Commit: ba7b7c27cc0d2081606e6be88fc5a1ae7d4c4a56 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ba7b7c27cc0d2081606e6be88fc5a1ae7d4c4a56 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-02-18 (Mon, 18 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #2476 from martinduke/patch-41 Packetization Nits Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/452635edf0b8...ba7b7c27cc0d From nobody Sun Feb 17 11:35:55 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF78A129619 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2019 11:35:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5GhvduZSzMqE for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2019 11:35:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 36F9012F18C for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2019 11:35:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 11:35:49 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550432149; bh=6KqGildz7MxJRvO2B2UYuHP7WZFBzcl4kaDcIyBjI9A=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=fsQn6XlyvFRpsrHmQp5oJIxd/RpwPccjqO0OBYk1k1rrLkWx4waLMN5gthIP3ZT2R I4qkXhHCs20nfK/QtTs0LrMjjdr28p1XU/eWQ3k4siv4SQzTi9aWiKYJhK//83b3xk gfm+6QO8ZQW55vtMrMUjSFZRQ2pF36cIw/KCeS90= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Packetization Nits (#2476) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c69b7952521d_4cb13f8d2dcd45c0669530"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 19:35:52 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c69b7952521d_4cb13f8d2dcd45c0669530 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Merged #2476 into master. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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[ci skip] From nobody Sun Feb 17 11:46:11 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8387112D4EF for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2019 11:46:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BfPg7lNbFQCN for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2019 11:46:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A81C5129619 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2019 11:46:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 11:46:07 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550432767; bh=UTb56UIhoNCgf0AHn24Uuj4DgvzWkJls28ufEZwXHvA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=QrGMKe17a/A7SZ2mgUlJBFOvCnsRTufM1AZ7LRWrcyvWKiW8VTtYdwAHHY3H5mi0g uuEbiUMVlTohyrKfnPNVpPGtG0YchiZw3P8PpWyn1Zj9T/ra0aNHxKqFpsfw18bUCp IlA+twOu9jo4MlESH38nkaSE6PLKQSWBChRxppvA= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] CID's should be compared in constant time (#2477) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c69b9ff69451_17f13f8cfbad45b815312bf"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 19:46:11 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c69b9ff69451_17f13f8cfbad45b815312bf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The "secret" here is a connection ID. Something we put in packets without encryption. If the cost is that you can force a server to attempt to decrypt packets, that's relatively easy to do by other means. If the point is to attribute that pointless work to others, that's maybe a tiny bit interesting as a DoS vector, but it seems to me like this isn't that useful a thing to document. The underlying assumption here has always been that decryption, successful or otherwise, is cheap enough that an attacker ends up spending more resources in sending the packet than the defender does in discarding them. That's not completely true as decryption isn't free, but the cost/benefit to an attacker is very low and - relevant to our current effort - it is extremely difficult to defend if you assume differently. From that perspective, I don't think we should do anything about this. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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The "secret" here is a connection ID. Something we put in packets wit= hout encryption.

If the cost is that you can force a server to attempt to decrypt packe= ts, that's relatively easy to do by other means. If the point is to attr= ibute that pointless work to others, that's maybe a tiny bit interesting = as a DoS vector, but it seems to me like this isn't that useful a thing t= o document.

The underlying assumption here has always been that decryption, succes= sful or otherwise, is cheap enough that an attacker ends up spending more= resources in sending the packet than the defender does in discarding the= m. That's not completely true as decryption isn't free, but the cost/ben= efit to an attacker is very low and - relevant to our current effort - it= is extremely difficult to defend if you assume differently. From that pe= rspective, I don't think we should do anything about this.

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Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub,= or mute the thread.3D""

= ----==_mimepart_5c69b9ff69451_17f13f8cfbad45b815312bf-- From nobody Sun Feb 17 12:18:27 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0281128CB7 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2019 12:18:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kVGFkwAE2BDO for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2019 12:18:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E8410126C7E for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2019 12:18:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 12:18:21 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550434701; bh=zQtLq8VT3rBJw86P59L0YeONEXuZIPnIXtmGdKSA27A=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=wFJV0wP1RuiQpFUl+2fViPl8iOiBNaDQ5iw54QR8J7aFd4OD1IrMZdYbOvXb4XPZ1 wzkzw4hxxqHOWoKgzWQxTaGkO1mv1rkCOH0A9y/cfW2HCbrRxBaGY5tXOe3yD6MGxC CWSKCXhejpWJD/OV4rXZX1CMdIgAivDf0lgwsAXw= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Refine Discussion of 0-RTT Transport Parameters (#2467) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c69c18dbdef5_59433fa6caed45bc141776e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 20:18:26 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c69c18dbdef5_59433fa6caed45bc141776e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson commented on this pull request. A few suggestions, but I like this. Maybe I will do the tabulation thing later. > -when accepting 0-RTT data. A server uses the transport parameters in -determining whether to accept 0-RTT data. - -A server MAY accept 0-RTT and subsequently provide different values for -transport parameters for use in the new connection. If 0-RTT data is accepted -by the server, the server MUST NOT reduce any limits or alter any values that -might be violated by the client with its 0-RTT data. In particular, a server -that accepts 0-RTT data MUST NOT set values for the following parameters -({{transport-parameter-definitions}}) that are smaller -than the remembered value of those parameters. +Clients remember the value of transport parameters from a server and apply +them to any 0-RTT packets that are sent in subsequent connections, except +for transport parameters that are explicitly excluded. Remembered transport +parameters apply to the new connection until the handshake completes and the +client starts sending 1-RTT packets. Once the handshake completes, the client +uses the transport parameters established in thehandshake. ```suggestion uses the transport parameters established in the handshake. ``` > -than the remembered value of those parameters. +Clients remember the value of transport parameters from a server and apply +them to any 0-RTT packets that are sent in subsequent connections, except +for transport parameters that are explicitly excluded. Remembered transport +parameters apply to the new connection until the handshake completes and the +client starts sending 1-RTT packets. Once the handshake completes, the client +uses the transport parameters established in thehandshake. + +The value of the server's previous original_connection_id, preferred_address, +stateless_reset_token, and ack_delay_exponent MUST NOT be used when +establishing a new connection; rather, the client should wait to observe the +server's new values in the handshake. If the server does not provide a new +value, the client MUST use the default value. + +The client MAY store the server's original max_packet_size transport +parameter. ```suggestion ``` > -({{transport-parameter-definitions}}) that are smaller -than the remembered value of those parameters. +Clients remember the value of transport parameters from a server and apply +them to any 0-RTT packets that are sent in subsequent connections, except +for transport parameters that are explicitly excluded. Remembered transport +parameters apply to the new connection until the handshake completes and the +client starts sending 1-RTT packets. Once the handshake completes, the client +uses the transport parameters established in thehandshake. + +The value of the server's previous original_connection_id, preferred_address, +stateless_reset_token, and ack_delay_exponent MUST NOT be used when +establishing a new connection; rather, the client should wait to observe the +server's new values in the handshake. If the server does not provide a new +value, the client MUST use the default value. + +The client MAY store the server's original max_packet_size transport ```suggestion ``` > + +The definition of new transport parameters ({{new-transport-parameters}}) MUST +specify whether they MUST, MAY, or MUST NOT be stored for 0-RTT. A client need +not store a transport parameter it cannot process. + +A client that attempts to send 0-RTT data MUST remember all other transport +parameters used by the server. The server can remember these transport +parameters, or store an integrity-protected copy of the values in the ticket +and recover the information when accepting 0-RTT data. A server uses the +transport parameters in determining whether to accept 0-RTT data. + +If 0-RTT data is accepted by the server, the server MUST NOT reduce any +limits or alter any values that might be violated by the client with its +0-RTT data. In particular, a server that accepts 0-RTT data MUST NOT set +values for the following parameters ({{transport-parameter-definitions}}) +that are smaller than the remembered value of those parameters. ```suggestion that are smaller than the remembered value of those parameters: ``` > - -A server MAY accept 0-RTT and subsequently provide different values for -transport parameters for use in the new connection. If 0-RTT data is accepted -by the server, the server MUST NOT reduce any limits or alter any values that -might be violated by the client with its 0-RTT data. In particular, a server -that accepts 0-RTT data MUST NOT set values for the following parameters -({{transport-parameter-definitions}}) that are smaller -than the remembered value of those parameters. +Clients remember the value of transport parameters from a server and apply +them to any 0-RTT packets that are sent in subsequent connections, except +for transport parameters that are explicitly excluded. Remembered transport +parameters apply to the new connection until the handshake completes and the +client starts sending 1-RTT packets. Once the handshake completes, the client +uses the transport parameters established in thehandshake. + +The value of the server's previous original_connection_id, preferred_address, I think that maybe this paragraph can be moved after the one starting with "The definition of" -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2467#pullrequestreview-204578050 ----==_mimepart_5c69c18dbdef5_59433fa6caed45bc141776e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@martinthomson commented on this pull request.

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A few suggestions, but I like this. Maybe I will do the tabulation th= ing later.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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> -than the remembered value of those parame=
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+Clients remember the value of transport parameters from a server and app=
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+them to any 0-RTT packets that are sent in subsequent connections, excep=
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+stateless_reset_token, and ack_delay_exponent MUST NOT be used when=0D
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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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> -({{transport-parameter-definitions}}) tha=
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+Clients remember the value of transport parameters from a server and app=
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+for transport parameters that are explicitly excluded. Remembered transp=
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+client starts sending 1-RTT packets. Once the handshake completes, the c=
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+The value of the server's previous original_connection_id, preferred=
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+stateless_reset_token, and ack_delay_exponent MUST NOT be used when=0D
+establishing a new connection; rather, the client should wait to observe=
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+server's new values in the handshake. If the server does not provide=
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+The client MAY store the server's original max_packet_size transport=
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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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+The definition of new transport parameters ({{new-transport-parameters}}=
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+specify whether they MUST, MAY, or MUST NOT be stored for 0-RTT. A clien=
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+not store a transport parameter it cannot process.=0D
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+A client that attempts to send 0-RTT data MUST remember all other transp=
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+parameters, or store an integrity-protected copy of the values in the ti=
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+and recover the information when accepting 0-RTT data. A server uses the=
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+transport parameters in determining whether to accept 0-RTT data.=0D
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+If 0-RTT data is accepted by the server, the server MUST NOT reduce any=0D=

+limits or alter any values that might be violated by the client with its=
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+that are smaller than the remembered value of those parameters.=0D
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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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> -=0D
-A server MAY accept 0-RTT and subsequently provide different values for=0D=

-transport parameters for use in the new connection.  If 0-RTT data is ac=
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-by the server, the server MUST NOT reduce any limits or alter any values=
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-might be violated by the client with its 0-RTT data.  In particular, a s=
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-that accepts 0-RTT data MUST NOT set values for the following parameters=
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-({{transport-parameter-definitions}}) that are smaller=0D
-than the remembered value of those parameters.=0D
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+them to any 0-RTT packets that are sent in subsequent connections, excep=
t=0D
+for transport parameters that are explicitly excluded. Remembered transp=
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+client starts sending 1-RTT packets. Once the handshake completes, the c=
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I think that maybe this paragraph can be moved after the one starting = with "The definition of"

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As discussed in Tokyo.

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Commit Summary

  • Describe the two processes.
  • disambiguate the lists.
  • typo
  • yeah let's try that again.

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Slow down, we're not in the new process yet. And, in either case, consensus needs to be determined on-list, not in issues.

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Removing has-consensus tag as it needs to be canvassed on-list (and attached to an issue, not a PR).

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[ci skip] From nobody Mon Feb 18 01:41:05 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2FB7130EEF for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2019 01:41:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.384 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.384 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MzfcP3og3Q-Q for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2019 01:41:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 72FE3130EE4 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2019 01:41:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 01:41:00 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550482861; bh=p2hyFGBKmJDjZZM1b2MP5HxQM+/zOfADXadV/YTfPgU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=NDgjqFLIK/Fdgph7GvdYrj5AdcB4mkP73/WHd9RS46Rq6yVaQlVVOfSZbkug1dXI3 etPDMwEKFThCcxn8HNmLdd4M9/uDMKFBrgLAa3/25SCA3oumiRZ6GDxevUFsHXqIZT hmG5adEuz1j1VMC9Z/YxfBXgeBATvstEROJznSNU= From: Lars Eggert Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] New connection IDs are mandatory for intentional migration (#2414) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c6a7dacbb4b5_3963fbc4aed45b8228234"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: larseggert X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 09:41:04 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c6a7dacbb4b5_3963fbc4aed45b8228234 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm sorry if I misunderstood the new process, but I don't think your PR says that an issue **must** be discussed on the mailing list? 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I'm sorry if I misunderstood the new process, but I don't think your PR says that an issue must be discussed on the mailing list? Doesn't it say that the discussion can happen on the list or on the issue?

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I'm sorry if I misunderstood the new process, but I don't think your PR says that an issue must be discussed on the mailing list? Doesn't it say that the discussion can happen on the list or on the issue?

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----==_mimepart_5c6a7dd26db5e_52443fccfd0d45bc34573a-- From nobody Mon Feb 18 06:43:20 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11D68130F99 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2019 06:43:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ydwEVHeyV8d4 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2019 06:43:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1CAD6128B01 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2019 06:43:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 06:43:15 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550500995; bh=9LgBcBW3mLNDrolIRsjzUSD0v92lAC0CpNZGyJ1gtoE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=snrFKcbr447XmuL+77QVd3FxtEj7ECF+Bk5njVghSUAcLke7iO9wCh7s1GBBeRt3y IBeMmMoSeuaf6TZazYQkRvz1ivOuKTli/5jc9vZNaS5T0jCRfR/3MP8aOP9DGUCBHf yb9KRxO6bh5aV1Dao0S3xp4OZS+TlpBwwp+/h1hc= From: Roni Even Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Invalid CONNECTION_CLOSE frames (#2475) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c6ac483c71b5_35e03fb5156d45c0113744"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ronieven X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 14:43:19 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c6ac483c71b5_35e03fb5156d45c0113744 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >From the current text in 10.3 After sending a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame, endpoints immediately enter the closing state. During the closing period, an endpoint that sends a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame SHOULD respond to any packet that it receives with another packet containing a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame. To minimize the state that an endpoint maintains for a closing connection, endpoints MAY send the exact same packet. This will be a loop since the same invalid packet will be sent again by the sender .... -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2475#issuecomment-464756141 ----==_mimepart_5c6ac483c71b5_35e03fb5156d45c0113744 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

From the current text in 10.3

After sending a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame, endpoints immediately enter th= e closing state. During the closing period, an endpoint that sends a CON= NECTION_CLOSE frame SHOULD respond to any packet that it receives with an= other packet containing a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame. To minimize the state = that an endpoint maintains for a closing connection, endpoints MAY send = the exact same packet.

This will be a loop since the same invalid packet will be sent again = by the sender ....

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@larseggert discussion can happen in either place, but we've always checked with the list before declaring consensus (which is what has-consensus records). In the currently operative process, that's happening (admittedly sporadically) after the drafts are published.

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Reopened #2413.

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We ought to leave this issue open, and let it be closed by PR #2414.

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@mnot @larseggert : The associated issue is #241= 3 and there's been a mailing list discussi= on. There seems to be some disagreement on what needs to happen next= .

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I agree with @martinthomson that we've assumed decryption to be relatively cheap, and that being able to guess a CID is therefore not a particularly interesting attack. I don't think this issue warrants any language in the spec.

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This fixes unintentional divergence from RFC 6298.
Closes #2472.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2480

Commit Summary

  • Fix PTO computation

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Thanks for catching this @ddragana -- yes, this was unintentional. I've sent #2480.

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----==_mimepart_5c6b7edc69926_164f3ffa54cd45b814802-- From nobody Mon Feb 18 22:08:30 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0FAA130E71 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2019 22:08:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MML8pMC5QDSm for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2019 22:08:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 303AB1200B3 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2019 22:08:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 22:08:26 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550556506; bh=UZrOg6ZbZWUpYdFzOwAgjcYHjQ8iN/ANFLJ51wZnv00=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Kw+i2W02iQlv7k0Pck9zbrVS6mP766mijxUav0gDyVlSwU4yKcAEE3FnZa9a6yG/5 RkwV6GXjwMYKNUaQ8JEumLxgWGRtzZfAkNtdwpqTjtxffV0dKmJAo7ISMfbgBOp677 TOYlsD6k56oXEyxRdfsf3795hIUvgCEpP8n1JNjc= From: Mark Nottingham Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] New connection IDs are mandatory for intentional migration (#2414) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c6b9d5a48a0_1c463ffa54cd45b8641176"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mnot X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2019 06:08:29 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c6b9d5a48a0_1c463ffa54cd45b8641176 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit #2413 is a design issue. If this is just editorial and no one disputes that, you can apply it as that, but it can't close #2413. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2414#issuecomment-464997880 ----==_mimepart_5c6b9d5a48a0_1c463ffa54cd45b8641176 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

#2413 is a design issue. If this is just editorial and no one disputes that, you can apply it as that, but it can't close #2413.

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#2413 is only marked design because there is debate, therefore, I conclude that we need chairs to help us. I requested that close to 2 weeks ago.

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No arguments here, but why are we so determined on protecting against packet number guessing, but not CID guessing? https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-tls-18#page-30 (QUIC-TLS section 9.3)

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So, is this editorial?

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The transport draft states the following (Section 4.4):

Assuming that every contiguous byte on the stream was sent once, the final size is the number of bytes sent. More generally, this is one higher than the largest byte offset sent on the stream.

This verbiage, introduced in PR #2285, is ambiguous. Byte offset may refer to the Offset field in the STREAM frame; in this case, the definition above is incorrect. What we want to say is that the final size is one higher than the offset of the byte with the largest offset sent on the stream. If no bytes were sent, the final size is zero.

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----==_mimepart_5c6c336371e38_2dda3fd619ed45c01907fb-- From nobody Tue Feb 19 08:48:49 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44EBF130F14 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2019 08:48:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zjb6dxlFd5Ja for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2019 08:48:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 38448130F27 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2019 08:48:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2019 08:48:39 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550594919; bh=8oCgsWj2r4qYWCLNXHbRw931jNkYw72LxAW1G19kSdY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Pzt9XRAVNU0boCz1scXbKiNpMm/1RwJv2FexUujQwlYxL8yZItH/WDFRgl8IdgIUt 00haGVULpjZl/60OtnKFqntzgBCwNHZOn4Sohd6f2gGdhDMDPXPRUFVs9hVUtdfHaE ymfmFwGdrJe69pqAa1ooLVCEcMtMe9/iLg/zYaDI= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Fix PTO computation (#2480) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c6c336750ab9_fc43fa2356d45b810151a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2019 16:48:43 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c6c336750ab9_fc43fa2356d45b810151a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Merged #2480 into master. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2480#event-2149473471 ----==_mimepart_5c6c336750ab9_fc43fa2356d45b810151a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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The congestion period is calculated as the time between the +oldest and newest lost packets: (3 - 0) = 3. The duration for persistent I think @marten-seemann is right, we don't want to have differences between the text and the example at least. We don't need the pseudo code to be descriptive in how the datastructures are used, but It can specify what needs to be done. The problem here is that the example and the pseudo code are suggesting that this is simpler than it actually is. I think we may need to slightly alter the mechanism anyway. It's not the time difference between the newest and the oldest that's interesting, it's that packets sent in the 3 x PTO duration prior to the newest lost packet were all marked as lost. So (i) the latest packet sent >= 3 x PTO before the newest lost packet should be the oldest packet that we are interested in (not the oldest packet that is marked as lost), and (ii) we need to then check that all packets between that packet and the newest are marked lost. So, I propose the following changes: 1. Change the example to show packets that were sent earlier than 3xPTO and marked lost, but they aren't used in the detection of PersistentCongestion 2. Add to the text below (proposed below) 3. Add to the pseudocode (proposed below) > + kPersistentCongestionThreshold = 2 + +If an eck-eliciting packet is sent at time = 0, the following scenario would +illustrate persistent congestion: + + t=0 | Send Pkt #1 (App Data) + t=1 | Send Pkt #2 (PTO 1) + t=3 | Send Pkt #3 (PTO 2) + t=7 | Send Pkt #4 (PTO 3) + t=8 | Recv ACK of Pkt #4 + +The first three packets are determined to be lost when the ACK of packet 4 is +received at t=8. The congestion period is calculated as the time between the +oldest and newest lost packets: (3 - 0) = 3. The duration for persistent +congestion is equal to: (1 * ((2 ^ kPersistentCongestionThreshold) - 1)) = 3. +Because the threshold was reached, the network is considered to have experienced Suggestion: "Because the threshold was reached and because none of the packets between the oldest and the newest packets are acknowledged, the network is considered ..." > @@ -1282,15 +1314,27 @@ Invoked by loss detection from DetectLostPackets when new packets are detected lost. ~~~ + InPersistentCongestion(congestion_period): Suggested rework of this function: ``` InPersistentCongestion(newest_lost_packet): pto = smoothed_rtt + 4 * rttvar + max_ack_delay congestion_period = pto * (2 ^ kPersistentCongestionThreshold - 1) // Find the latest packet that was sent at least pto time before the newest lost packet oldest_sent_packet = FindPacketSentBefore(newest_lost_packet, congestion_period) // Determine if all packets in the window, including the edges, are marked lost return IsWindowLost(oldest_sent_packet, newest_lost_packet) ``` > // Start a new congestion epoch if the last lost packet // is past the end of the previous recovery epoch. - CongestionEvent(largest_lost_packet.time_sent) + CongestionEvent(newest_lost_packet.time_sent) + + // Collapse congestion window if persistent congestion + if (InPersistentCongestion( Change params to InPersistentCongestion to only have newest_lost_packet. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +  rttvar = 0
+  max_ack_delay = 0
+  kPersistentCongestionThreshold = 2
+
+If an eck-eliciting packet is sent at time = 0, the following scenario would
+illustrate persistent congestion:
+
+  t=0 | Send Pkt #1 (App Data)
+  t=1 | Send Pkt #2 (PTO 1)
+  t=3 | Send Pkt #3 (PTO 2)
+  t=7 | Send Pkt #4 (PTO 3)
+  t=8 | Recv ACK of Pkt #4
+
+The first three packets are determined to be lost when the ACK of packet 4 is
+received at t=8.  The congestion period is calculated as the time between the
+oldest and newest lost packets: (3 - 0) = 3.  The duration for persistent

I think @marten-seemann is right, we don't want to have differences between the text and the example at least. We don't need the pseudo code to be descriptive in how the datastructures are used, but It can specify what needs to be done. The problem here is that the example and the pseudo code are suggesting that this is simpler than it actually is.

I think we may need to slightly alter the mechanism anyway. It's not the time difference between the newest and the oldest that's interesting, it's that packets sent in the 3 x PTO duration prior to the newest lost packet were all marked as lost. So (i) the latest packet sent >= 3 x PTO before the newest lost packet should be the oldest packet that we are interested in (not the oldest packet that is marked as lost), and (ii) we need to then check that all packets between that packet and the newest are marked lost.

So, I propose the following changes:

  1. Change the example to show packets that were sent earlier than 3xPTO and marked lost, but they aren't used in the detection of PersistentCongestion
  2. Add to the text below (proposed below)
  3. Add to the pseudocode (proposed below)

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +  kPersistentCongestionThreshold = 2
+
+If an eck-eliciting packet is sent at time = 0, the following scenario would
+illustrate persistent congestion:
+
+  t=0 | Send Pkt #1 (App Data)
+  t=1 | Send Pkt #2 (PTO 1)
+  t=3 | Send Pkt #3 (PTO 2)
+  t=7 | Send Pkt #4 (PTO 3)
+  t=8 | Recv ACK of Pkt #4
+
+The first three packets are determined to be lost when the ACK of packet 4 is
+received at t=8.  The congestion period is calculated as the time between the
+oldest and newest lost packets: (3 - 0) = 3.  The duration for persistent
+congestion is equal to: (1 * ((2 ^ kPersistentCongestionThreshold) - 1)) = 3.
+Because the threshold was reached, the network is considered to have experienced

Suggestion: "Because the threshold was reached and because none of the packets between the oldest and the newest packets are acknowledged, the network is considered ..."

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1282,15 +1314,27 @@ Invoked by loss detection from DetectLostPackets when new packets
 are detected lost.
 
 ~~~
+   InPersistentCongestion(congestion_period):

Suggested rework of this function:

InPersistentCongestion(newest_lost_packet):
    pto = smoothed_rtt + 4 * rttvar + max_ack_delay
    congestion_period = pto * (2 ^ kPersistentCongestionThreshold - 1)
    // Find the latest packet that was sent at least pto time before the newest lost packet
    oldest_sent_packet = FindPacketSentBefore(newest_lost_packet, congestion_period)
    // Determine if all packets in the window, including the  edges, are marked lost
    return IsWindowLost(oldest_sent_packet, newest_lost_packet)

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  
      // Start a new congestion epoch if the last lost packet
      // is past the end of the previous recovery epoch.
-     CongestionEvent(largest_lost_packet.time_sent)
+     CongestionEvent(newest_lost_packet.time_sent)
+
+     // Collapse congestion window if persistent congestion
+     if (InPersistentCongestion(

Change params to InPersistentCongestion to only have newest_lost_packet.

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Just so you don't have to read the whole RFC7301.

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  • Clarify what to do when ALPN negotiation fails

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RFC 7301 only specifies that the server use this alert. A server can always pretend not to support the extension. A client that sends no_application_protocol in that case might still be valid, but it's not defined behaviour in 7301. I think that you need to reword this slightly to allow for that.

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Yeah I was thinking about that. I wonder if it would make sense for the client to simply send PROTOCOL_VIOLATION instead of a TLS alert.

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This looks good, so I'll merge this. I think we need largest_acked in DetectLostPackets to be per pn_space as well though... what do you think?

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----==_mimepart_5c6de86e670ed_6ee3fa92f6d45bc5011ac-- From nobody Wed Feb 20 15:53:35 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90879130E58 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2019 15:53:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 45FeImi8Z4RV for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2019 15:53:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 933DA1274D0 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2019 15:53:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 15:53:26 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550706806; bh=TpGYLsCpdsGd6U9DlzJwFVkCq2Ye1gCxwQV+36L4YKo=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=MDRDOfxgm03Z0cUJSKZKKSps1VPZng9kKiZUXcK08xSLQRQqGTGL+FY7F0MG5fju1 yJIZsvCqUWkY13KcSUYujNSoDGDI7wGMFWuJ6LG8p+U3oly4A/+htn9SOs6O+AXpST QZw7TYk43O/k1zn73mGLQMlM4/W8ZoGE7BjTiVjQ= From: Jana Iyengar To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] ec2418: Add a loss_time per packet number space Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 23:53:29 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: ec2418410ceb50526dad6b8fe94f751378ff83fd https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ec2418410ceb50526dad6b8fe94f751378ff83fd Author: ianswett Date: 2019-02-11 (Mon, 11 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Add a loss_time per packet number space Fixes #2435 I failed to fully think this through when #2417 landed, but the intent was always that time threshold loss detection apply to Initial and Handshake packet number spaces, as well as ApplicationData. Commit: cee749c18d519bf4e26e281e212749b12fa9aee0 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/cee749c18d519bf4e26e281e212749b12fa9aee0 Author: ianswett Date: 2019-02-11 (Mon, 11 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Commit: 5339f9a8b38958be9091ce2dd82a0639236a5428 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5339f9a8b38958be9091ce2dd82a0639236a5428 Author: ianswett Date: 2019-02-11 (Mon, 11 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Commit: f6e85a0fa4ca87228970e2af0bd2e81ca1697453 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f6e85a0fa4ca87228970e2af0bd2e81ca1697453 Author: ianswett Date: 2019-02-11 (Mon, 11 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Commit: da874788e729470f9587ad2194c334f5e71f528c https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/da874788e729470f9587ad2194c334f5e71f528c Author: ianswett Date: 2019-02-11 (Mon, 11 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Commit: d183dbcf3fec1a338259abe3fc657645b2b6fbaa https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d183dbcf3fec1a338259abe3fc657645b2b6fbaa Author: ianswett Date: 2019-02-11 (Mon, 11 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Commit: 89c8c3b8bd1e79692a93ab312820cea63f560a4a https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/89c8c3b8bd1e79692a93ab312820cea63f560a4a Author: ianswett Date: 2019-02-12 (Tue, 12 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Commit: 8cfa8346c072d629f0b9397f9b7795327b90fc49 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8cfa8346c072d629f0b9397f9b7795327b90fc49 Author: ianswett Date: 2019-02-12 (Tue, 12 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Commit: f7fb4829175e975920b1026cc0d4431301a14dea https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f7fb4829175e975920b1026cc0d4431301a14dea Author: ianswett Date: 2019-02-12 (Tue, 12 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Commit: be00d3c1013de2900569cf4ea374cf53069b6188 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/be00d3c1013de2900569cf4ea374cf53069b6188 Author: ianswett Date: 2019-02-13 (Wed, 13 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Commit: dd9f8c383a56b6e98ca1329e5a220a86e04ea7b5 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/dd9f8c383a56b6e98ca1329e5a220a86e04ea7b5 Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2019-02-20 (Wed, 20 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #2451 from quicwg/ianswett-loss-time Add a loss_time per packet number space Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/2b92182b6538...dd9f8c383a56 From nobody Wed Feb 20 15:53:41 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B266130E66 for ; 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In particular, largest_acked_packet in DetectLostPackets should be per pn_space.

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Fixes #2484.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2485

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  • add the pn_space index for largest_acked_packet

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Since #2417, DetectLostPackets already takes the packet number space. However, the packet number space index for largest_acked_packet is missing there, as well as in OnAckReceived.
I created #2485 to fix this.

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@janaiyengar I saw you closed this issue already, but I= don't think my concerns in #2435 (comment) are fully ad= dressed by #2451. Do you think it's ok to just ignore that = corner case?

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@marten-seemann I'll reopen this issue while we discu= ss this.

I believe the original core of this issue was that when early retransm= it was at play, crypto retransmission was substantially less aggressive t= han other packets. As you noted, that clearly was not the intent and I b= elieve that's been fixed.

The case you outline is interesting, because even if Initial 3 is acke= d, the only mechanism we have to recover from the loss of Handshake 1 is = the crypto timer. If we'd like to avoid always spuriously retransmitting= Handshake 1 in this scenario, we have to wait until Initial 3 is acked, = because otherwise the peer likely doesn't have keys to decrypt Handshake = 1.

In practice, when Initial 3 is acked, the server can likely assume the= client has the handshake keys and if it doesn't receive an ACK for Hands= hake 1 in a relatively short period of time(maybe 1/8 RTT), then retransm= it Handshake 1. But that's making assumptions about key availability fro= m recovery information, which seems like a very questionable optimization= to save 7/8 RTT in an edge case where two packets from two different pac= ket number spaces are lost in short sequence.

TLDR: I think the current algorithms are good, and only if we were ok = with spuriously retransmitting all handshake data in the majority of case= s when a single Initial packet was lost could we adopt a more aggressive = approach.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1282,15 +1314,27 @@ Invoked by loss detection from DetectLostPackets when new packets
 are detected lost.
 
 ~~~
+   InPersistentCongestion(congestion_period):

I feel like this overly complicates things (at least for the pseudocode). What if simplify it a bit, like the following:

InPersistentCongestion(newest_lost_packet):
    pto = smoothed_rtt + 4 * rttvar + max_ack_delay
    congestion_period = pto * (2 ^ kPersistentCongestionThreshold - 1)
    // Determine if all packets in the window before the newest lost packet,
    // including the edges, are marked lost
    return IsWindowLost(newest_lost_packet, congestion_period)

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----==_mimepart_5c6edc53f3893_17f03fb3c16d45c0186950-- From nobody Thu Feb 21 11:47:50 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE13D130E6F for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2019 11:47:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8vTDCrwJrOkD for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2019 11:47:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F2446130E6D for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2019 11:47:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2019 11:47:45 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550778465; bh=GuSgDRSYqvNuKkaBlzU2az3tyikpPI+aZcZButh/CPU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Zl5eccPxLGozfq2WmsYceHLLo2wqSbi9jPP294UYBuMOufi9s8jw0Bc7yKQnElwlJ tMFNUAZ1hDCtdLtiqai9Z7Nsac73iGOq+uHhUFmI9mp3pqAHlTZkvLenizZTDeW+qL eGu9qgFV8E10Brq/CNEwSWMCr9vqsCjQdXBcITt4= From: David Schinazi Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Connection ID Length changes (#2473) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c6f0061a17ce_7c383f989ccd45b4159280"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: DavidSchinazi X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2019 19:47:49 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c6f0061a17ce_7c383f989ccd45b4159280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think banning switching from non-zero-length CID to zero-length CID mig= ht be too constraining. Imagine a server is initially reached via an IPv6= anycast address, and it tells the client its IPv6 preferred address. If = that server owns a /64, it can give a different preferred address to each= client which allows zero-length CIDs and migration without requiring tri= al decryption because the server can find the connection simply by lookin= g at the packet destination IP address. (Note that kernels don't let you = easily do that today but that can be fixed.) The only downside I'm seeing= here is that migration can now be tracked across paths since the connect= ion ID doesn't change and the server IP is enough to identify a connectio= n. I suspect there are deployment scenarios where reducing CID overhead i= s more important that the privacy risk. But, given that the server prefer= red address is only advisory, a client that cares more about privacy than= about the CID overhead can simply refuse to switch over. With all that s= aid, I don't think the restriction against zero-length-CID helps us. -- = You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2473#issuecomment-466140260= ----==_mimepart_5c6f0061a17ce_7c383f989ccd45b4159280 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I think banning switching from non-zero-length CID to zero-length CID = might be too constraining. Imagine a server is initially reached via an I= Pv6 anycast address, and it tells the client its IPv6 preferred address. = If that server owns a /64, it can give a different preferred address to e= ach client which allows zero-length CIDs and migration without requiring = trial decryption because the server can find the connection simply by loo= king at the packet destination IP address. (Note that kernels don't let y= ou easily do that today but that can be fixed.) The only downside I'm see= ing here is that migration can now be tracked across paths since the conn= ection ID doesn't change and the server IP is enough to identify a connec= tion. I suspect there are deployment scenarios where reducing CID overhea= d is more important that the privacy risk. But, given that the server pre= ferred address is only advisory, a client that cares more about privacy t= han about the CID overhead can simply refuse to switch over. With all tha= t said, I don't think the restriction against zero-length-CID helps us.

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Currently, stream IDs are as high as 2^62-1. The MAX_STREAMS frame specifies a limit as a varint that has a max value of 2^62-1 that translates to a Stream ID of 4 * max_streams + initial_stream_id_for_type. This is larger than the max expressible stream ID, so we should specify what happens in this case.

I'm suggesting that we allow all streams to be opened and MUST NOT close the connection in PR #2486

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A few nits, but this looks good to me. That said, this issue will need consensus. > @@ -961,12 +961,16 @@ cannot expect its peer to store and use all issued connection IDs. An endpoint SHOULD ensure that its peer has a sufficient number of available and unused connection IDs. While each endpoint independently chooses how many connection IDs to issue, endpoints SHOULD provide and maintain at least eight -connection IDs. The endpoint SHOULD do this by always supplying a new -connection ID when a connection ID is retired by its peer or when the endpoint -receives a packet with a previously unused connection ID. Endpoints that -initiate migration and require non-zero-length connection IDs SHOULD provide -their peers with new connection IDs before migration, or risk the peer closing -the connection. +connection IDs. The endpoint SHOULD do this by supplying a new connection ID +when a connection ID is retired by its peer or when the endpoint receives a +packet with a previously unused connection ID, though it MAY limit the frequency ```suggestion packet with a previously unused connection ID. However, it MAY limit the frequency ``` > @@ -961,12 +961,16 @@ cannot expect its peer to store and use all issued connection IDs. An endpoint SHOULD ensure that its peer has a sufficient number of available and unused connection IDs. While each endpoint independently chooses how many connection IDs to issue, endpoints SHOULD provide and maintain at least eight -connection IDs. The endpoint SHOULD do this by always supplying a new -connection ID when a connection ID is retired by its peer or when the endpoint -receives a packet with a previously unused connection ID. Endpoints that -initiate migration and require non-zero-length connection IDs SHOULD provide -their peers with new connection IDs before migration, or risk the peer closing -the connection. +connection IDs. The endpoint SHOULD do this by supplying a new connection ID +when a connection ID is retired by its peer or when the endpoint receives a +packet with a previously unused connection ID, though it MAY limit the frequency +or the total number of connection IDs issued for each connection to avoid the +risk of running out of connection IDs (see {{reset-token}}). + +Endpoints that initiate migration and require non-zero-length connection IDs ```suggestion An endpoint that initiates migration and requires non-zero-length connection IDs ``` > @@ -961,12 +961,16 @@ cannot expect its peer to store and use all issued connection IDs. An endpoint SHOULD ensure that its peer has a sufficient number of available and unused connection IDs. While each endpoint independently chooses how many connection IDs to issue, endpoints SHOULD provide and maintain at least eight -connection IDs. The endpoint SHOULD do this by always supplying a new -connection ID when a connection ID is retired by its peer or when the endpoint -receives a packet with a previously unused connection ID. Endpoints that -initiate migration and require non-zero-length connection IDs SHOULD provide -their peers with new connection IDs before migration, or risk the peer closing -the connection. +connection IDs. The endpoint SHOULD do this by supplying a new connection ID +when a connection ID is retired by its peer or when the endpoint receives a +packet with a previously unused connection ID, though it MAY limit the frequency +or the total number of connection IDs issued for each connection to avoid the +risk of running out of connection IDs (see {{reset-token}}). + +Endpoints that initiate migration and require non-zero-length connection IDs +SHOULD ensure that the pool of connection IDs available to their peers allows ```suggestion SHOULD ensure that the pool of connection IDs available to its peer allows ``` > @@ -961,12 +961,16 @@ cannot expect its peer to store and use all issued connection IDs. An endpoint SHOULD ensure that its peer has a sufficient number of available and unused connection IDs. While each endpoint independently chooses how many connection IDs to issue, endpoints SHOULD provide and maintain at least eight -connection IDs. The endpoint SHOULD do this by always supplying a new -connection ID when a connection ID is retired by its peer or when the endpoint -receives a packet with a previously unused connection ID. Endpoints that -initiate migration and require non-zero-length connection IDs SHOULD provide -their peers with new connection IDs before migration, or risk the peer closing -the connection. +connection IDs. The endpoint SHOULD do this by supplying a new connection ID +when a connection ID is retired by its peer or when the endpoint receives a +packet with a previously unused connection ID, though it MAY limit the frequency +or the total number of connection IDs issued for each connection to avoid the +risk of running out of connection IDs (see {{reset-token}}). + +Endpoints that initiate migration and require non-zero-length connection IDs +SHOULD ensure that the pool of connection IDs available to their peers allows +them to use a new connection ID on migration, as the peer will close the ```suggestion the peer to use a new connection ID on migration, as the peer will close the ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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This issue is worth noting in the draft, and the PR looks good to me.

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IIRC, the bit was a result of us wanting to demux with various other p= rotocols, and as such, the entire purpose of the bit is to allow identifi= cation of QUIC. This may not be a feature we like, but it is a feature.

I don't think we should be talking about the bit, but about co-existen= ce with the other protocols. We discussed this, @martinthomson made a presentation about it (in Montreal, I think), and we agreed to = co-exist.

While it can be seen as a natural consequence of setting the QUIC bit,= I think the question we want to ask is whether we ought to make this co-= existence an invariant. If so, what is the minimal set of packets that ne= ed to be demux-able with these other protocols. (We've been over this bef= ore, but I don't think we discussed whether it was adequate to demux only= for the long header.)

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Clients MUST -NOT send new requests on the connection after receiving GOAWAY, although -requests might already be in transit. A new connection can be established for -new requests. - -If the client has sent requests on streams with a Stream ID greater than or -equal to that indicated in the GOAWAY frame, those requests are considered -rejected ({{request-cancellation}}). Clients SHOULD cancel any requests on -streams above this ID. Servers MAY also reject requests on streams below the -indicated ID if these requests were not processed. +Clients MUST NOT send new requests on the connection after receiving GOAWAY; +a new connection MAY be established to send additional requests. + +Some requests might already be in transit. 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If the client has already sent +requests on streams with a Stream ID greater than or equal to that indicated in +the GOAWAY frame, those requests will not be processed and can be retried by the +client. It is RECOMMENDED that the server explicitly reject such requests (see +{{request-cancellation}}) in order to clean up transport state for the affected +streams. The client MAY also cancel requests which will not be processed. Suggestion: Swap the order of these last two sentences, so that client behavior is described first and then server. Also, the following: ```suggestion streams. The client MAY also cancel these requests. ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2457#pullrequestreview-206640980 ----==_mimepart_5c6f675779dcb_39743fb9376d45b812841c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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= =0D =0D = ----==_mimepart_5c6f675779dcb_39743fb9376d45b812841c-- From nobody Thu Feb 21 19:16:40 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1864B128B33 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2019 19:16:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LsHpKo_htArf for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2019 19:16:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7E3421275F3 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2019 19:16:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2019 19:16:35 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550805395; bh=yuFJtGZifad4oMgfrFooL3B99rqTKtTeIQzaYrr3XVY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=EteeGKCn4tsgl5o4y8fF8d3qKZVy+Ovd7DNTe1V3vqBIHc5AreiTNgORfFFwOdvpo 7CwiY2mR3Z378IypCNTLxfDVavaJcBlFyUQ75a02DzuMU+M/s2D0tlV3YiUVrjrWEG 6hp1l5nph6/1neytGPngrh1oZnAbc+g213IYjOx0= From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] introduce a max_connection_ids transport parameter (#1998) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c6f699374720_36f3fb8140d45c41084e2"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2019 03:16:38 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c6f699374720_36f3fb8140d45c41084e2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @marten-seemann : can you update the PR based on the discussion? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1998#issuecomment-466258704 ----==_mimepart_5c6f699374720_36f3fb8140d45c41084e2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@marten-seemann : can you update the PR based on the discussion?

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FWIW it would be easier to clarify that endpoints should not retain the max_connection_ids TP when resuming a connection once #2467 gets merged.

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@janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

One editorial suggestion.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -
-A server MAY accept 0-RTT and subsequently provide different values for
-transport parameters for use in the new connection.  If 0-RTT data is accepted
-by the server, the server MUST NOT reduce any limits or alter any values that
-might be violated by the client with its 0-RTT data.  In particular, a server
-that accepts 0-RTT data MUST NOT set values for the following parameters
-({{transport-parameter-definitions}}) that are smaller
-than the remembered value of those parameters.
+Clients remember the value of transport parameters from a server and apply
+them to any 0-RTT packets that are sent in subsequent connections, except
+for transport parameters that are explicitly excluded. Remembered transport
+parameters apply to the new connection until the handshake completes and the
+client starts sending 1-RTT packets. Once the handshake completes, the client
+uses the transport parameters established in thehandshake.
+
+The value of the server's previous original_connection_id, preferred_address,

Editorial rewrite suggestion: "A client MUST NOT use remembered values for the following parameters: original_connection_id, preferred_address, stateless_reset_token, ack_delay_exponent. The client MUST use the server's new values in the handshake instead, and absent new values from the server, the default value."

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This makes sense, and the list is good.

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----==_mimepart_5c6f6e1f4adcf_5e473fc81ead45b440877-- From nobody Thu Feb 21 19:48:24 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FBB012F295 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2019 19:48:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FcEd2L4BFe8T for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2019 19:48:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 52BB2126D00 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2019 19:48:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2019 19:48:20 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550807300; bh=eUZl0RhMBaM5P/d07cAlyKmqG9qHWjPNpp/U3ARQBqg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=yqT+zgrJF3qlyNN3qp0+lGoNvegD91QlUAf4Bxen2tOIQAUgLzK8+GUvO1/Dtcfhk 0YGSZ3jmbpxh4nf6CioVOn7ihsJZhTRXZYQ+o4Q826b2iF1VepoVOhVpd5hxrYQYvU MxFa6/fbe8qjdIQy2FIhGWjaj5io7JqtQkLDs96Y= From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] 0-RTT can't use transport parameters or 1-RTT frames (#2461) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c6f71044121d_1ef43f8caf0d45b427145f"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2019 03:48:24 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c6f71044121d_1ef43f8caf0d45b427145f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit janaiyengar commented on this pull request. A few suggestions, minor. > @@ -1422,6 +1422,16 @@ server's new preferred_address value in the handshake. A server MUST either reject 0-RTT data or abort a handshake if the implied values for transport parameters cannot be supported. +A client MUST NOT use updated values it learns either from the server's updated This is difficult to read. How about: "When sending frames in 0-RTT packets, a client MUST only use remembered transport parameters; importantly, it MUST NOT use updated values that it learns from the server's updated transport parameters or from frames received in 1-RTT packets." > @@ -1422,6 +1422,16 @@ server's new preferred_address value in the handshake. A server MUST either reject 0-RTT data or abort a handshake if the implied values for transport parameters cannot be supported. +A client MUST NOT use updated values it learns either from the server's updated +transport parameters or frames carried in 1-RTT when sending frames in 0-RTT +packets. Updated values of transport parameters from the handshake only apply ```suggestion packets. Updated values of transport parameters from the handshake apply only ``` > @@ -1422,6 +1422,16 @@ server's new preferred_address value in the handshake. A server MUST either reject 0-RTT data or abort a handshake if the implied values for transport parameters cannot be supported. +A client MUST NOT use updated values it learns either from the server's updated +transport parameters or frames carried in 1-RTT when sending frames in 0-RTT +packets. Updated values of transport parameters from the handshake only apply +to 1-RTT packets. For instance, flow control limits from remembered transport +parameters apply to all 0-RTT packets even if those values are increased by the +handshake; increased limits from frames cannot be applied, because the client ```suggestion handshake. Increased flow control limits from frames cannot be applied, because the client ``` > @@ -1422,6 +1422,16 @@ server's new preferred_address value in the handshake. A server MUST either reject 0-RTT data or abort a handshake if the implied values for transport parameters cannot be supported. +A client MUST NOT use updated values it learns either from the server's updated +transport parameters or frames carried in 1-RTT when sending frames in 0-RTT +packets. Updated values of transport parameters from the handshake only apply +to 1-RTT packets. For instance, flow control limits from remembered transport +parameters apply to all 0-RTT packets even if those values are increased by the +handshake; increased limits from frames cannot be applied, because the client I might even suggest dropping the second half, after "increased limits from frames". > A client SHOULD instead generate a fresh cryptographic handshake message and start packet numbers from 0. This ensures that new 0-RTT packets will not use the same keys, avoiding any risk of key and nonce reuse; this also prevents 0-RTT packets from previous handshake attempts from being accepted as part of the connection. +A client MUST NOT send 0-RTT packets once it starts processing 1-RTT packets +from the server. This means that 0-RTT packets cannot contain any response to +frames from 1-RTT packets. For instance, a client cannot send an ACK frame in a +0-RTT packet, because that can only acknowledge a 1-RTT packet. An +acknowledgment for a 1-RTT packet MUST be carried in a 1-RTT packet. A server New paragraph -- this last sentence is not related to the earlier discussion in this para. ```suggestion acknowledgment for a 1-RTT packet MUST be carried in a 1-RTT packet. A server ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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A few suggestions, minor.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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> @@ -1422,6 +1422,16 @@ server's new pr=
eferred_address value in the handshake.=0D
 A server MUST either reject 0-RTT data or abort a handshake if the impli=
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 values for transport parameters cannot be supported.=0D
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+A client MUST NOT use updated values it learns either from the server=
9;s updated=0D
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This is difficult to read. How about:
=0D "When sending frames in 0-RTT packets, a client MUST only use remembered = transport parameters; importantly, it MUST NOT use updated values that it= learns from the server's updated transport parameters or from frames rec= eived in 1-RTT packets."

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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> @@ -1422,6 +1422,16 @@ server's new pr=
eferred_address value in the handshake.=0D
 A server MUST either reject 0-RTT data or abort a handshake if the impli=
ed=0D
 values for transport parameters cannot be supported.=0D
 =0D
+A client MUST NOT use updated values it learns either from the server=
9;s updated=0D
+transport parameters or frames carried in 1-RTT when sending frames in 0=
-RTT=0D
+packets.  Updated values of transport parameters from the handshake only=
 apply=0D
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-packets.  Updated values of transport paramet=
ers from the handshake only apply=0D
+packets.  Updated values of transport parameters from the handshake appl=
y only=0D
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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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> @@ -1422,6 +1422,16 @@ server's new pr=
eferred_address value in the handshake.=0D
 A server MUST either reject 0-RTT data or abort a handshake if the impli=
ed=0D
 values for transport parameters cannot be supported.=0D
 =0D
+A client MUST NOT use updated values it learns either from the server=
9;s updated=0D
+transport parameters or frames carried in 1-RTT when sending frames in 0=
-RTT=0D
+packets.  Updated values of transport parameters from the handshake only=
 apply=0D
+to 1-RTT packets.  For instance, flow control limits from remembered tra=
nsport=0D
+parameters apply to all 0-RTT packets even if those values are increased=
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+handshake; increased limits from frames cannot be applied, because the c=
lient=0D
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-handshake; increased limits from frames canno=
t be applied, because the client=0D
+handshake.  Increased flow control limits from frames cannot be applied,=
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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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> @@ -1422,6 +1422,16 @@ server's new pr=
eferred_address value in the handshake.=0D
 A server MUST either reject 0-RTT data or abort a handshake if the impli=
ed=0D
 values for transport parameters cannot be supported.=0D
 =0D
+A client MUST NOT use updated values it learns either from the server=
9;s updated=0D
+transport parameters or frames carried in 1-RTT when sending frames in 0=
-RTT=0D
+packets.  Updated values of transport parameters from the handshake only=
 apply=0D
+to 1-RTT packets.  For instance, flow control limits from remembered tra=
nsport=0D
+parameters apply to all 0-RTT packets even if those values are increased=
 by the=0D
+handshake; increased limits from frames cannot be applied, because the c=
lient=0D
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I might even suggest dropping the second half, after "increased limits= from frames".

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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>  =0D
 A client SHOULD instead generate a fresh cryptographic handshake message=
 and=0D
 start packet numbers from 0.  This ensures that new 0-RTT packets will n=
ot use=0D
 the same keys, avoiding any risk of key and nonce reuse; this also preve=
nts=0D
 0-RTT packets from previous handshake attempts from being accepted as pa=
rt of=0D
 the connection.=0D
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+A client MUST NOT send 0-RTT packets once it starts processing 1-RTT pac=
kets=0D
+from the server.  This means that 0-RTT packets cannot contain any respo=
nse to=0D
+frames from 1-RTT packets.  For instance, a client cannot send an ACK fr=
ame in a=0D
+0-RTT packet, because that can only acknowledge a 1-RTT packet.  An=0D
+acknowledgment for a 1-RTT packet MUST be carried in a 1-RTT packet.  A =
server=0D
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New paragraph -- this last sentence is not related to the earlier disc= ussion in this para.

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+acknowledgment for a 1-RTT packet MUST be carried in a 1-RTT packet. =0D=

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I'm with @kazuho, but I'm still wondering: what is the clarification that we can provide?

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[ci skip] From nobody Thu Feb 21 20:35:47 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B9D7130E90 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2019 20:35:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8edTqdxuo2nw for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2019 20:35:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9D1D012F295 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2019 20:35:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2019 20:35:42 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550810142; bh=Q27SSwjq5qtHkhyX8ejHt9O2l+0ZSlRFgND0Yfj55us=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=JQz8E4DuMMVQi33LLomoChjXdZQTZ3brLSNSKjN4y2unrOC+dcfVudtNDjXRf9MND rtQ5CuzXq1U5HsKZ0i0d+7JUT71x7BoRmsrYW28Fi/TtA5QlZZw3uacDasAYaEAkQW hcWvGDN6BUmIFjFKbV86sqLYUxTNWE1FHwUBUOcU= From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Persistent Congestion Time Threshold (#2365) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c6f7c1e52b4e_3f4e3febb24d45bc77597c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2019 04:35:46 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c6f7c1e52b4e_3f4e3febb24d45bc77597c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit janaiyengar approved this pull request. 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This LGTM. Thanks, @nibanks!

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@ianswett: Can you take a look? I'd like to merge this one.

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I don't have a strong opinion, but this seems like a bug at the peer. I would be inclined to specify that an endpoint MUST NOT advertise max streams that are too large, and close the connection (with PROTOCOL_VIOLATION) if a value is received that is too large.

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@kazuho: thanks for jogging my memory. It seems that we didn't agree on something specific there.

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----==_mimepart_5c6f822d664ad_5f923f8a43ed45c41064d1-- From nobody Thu Feb 21 22:21:31 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4926E12D4F2 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2019 22:21:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id j2qgbUt2Pz7g for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2019 22:21:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 62194129BBF for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2019 22:21:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2019 22:21:26 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550816486; bh=2SRL/bSxCnUo/++6HLoyvxKjhwHfWVcD5Ceru+zr8I8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=T4QsU3qYpZHoenuQQ2malEP3Oxtferp1i7LPp844WjVpgicGFhgSiV510F0UGsq59 V2104wibH+13rVbCWSHA0FkxoEpNdC3ny/PZBFRMYFIBWd9iMZzjit2GnRei+Xrqd2 GqtrvMQQJeALhsF0qpkc4AhVdkCssO3t9aT4tbB8= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Can VN and Retry packets be coalesced? (#2407) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c6f94e642351_10863f82630d45c4274628"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2019 06:21:29 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c6f94e642351_10863f82630d45c4274628 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @janaiyengar Simply clarifying that "VN and Retry packets will never be coalesced" as part of the changes we would make in #2308 might be a good idea. We do not need to use a RFC 2119 word here due to the editorial nature of the issue. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2407#issuecomment-466287568 ----==_mimepart_5c6f94e642351_10863f82630d45c4274628 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@janaiyengar Simply clarifying that "VN and Retry packets will never be coalesced" as part of the changes we would make in #2308 might be a good idea.

We do not need to use a RFC 2119 word here due to the editorial nature of the issue.

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Commit: 5e56e69566133b7ca55f33d90c0c73eced272880 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5e56e69566133b7ca55f33d90c0c73eced272880 Author: Mark Nottingham Date: 2019-02-12 (Tue, 12 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M CONTRIBUTING.md Log Message: ----------- disambiguate the lists. Commit: 988f7b0bff4bb485875dce1093b3210793ac378c https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/988f7b0bff4bb485875dce1093b3210793ac378c Author: Mark Nottingham Date: 2019-02-14 (Thu, 14 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M CONTRIBUTING.md Log Message: ----------- typo Commit: 4b8ee3091ea4f6dca009801d8b57c8eff602ff17 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4b8ee3091ea4f6dca009801d8b57c8eff602ff17 Author: Mark Nottingham Date: 2019-02-14 (Thu, 14 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M CONTRIBUTING.md Log Message: ----------- yeah let's try that again. Commit: f4f9f7eb53a78a6678c1fb68dd475c95b5d3d31b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f4f9f7eb53a78a6678c1fb68dd475c95b5d3d31b Author: Mark Nottingham Date: 2019-02-22 (Fri, 22 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M CONTRIBUTING.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #2479 from quicwg/mnot-two-processes Introduce a "late-stage" process Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/526b7da519aa...f4f9f7eb53a7 From nobody Thu Feb 21 23:19:55 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FC96130E64 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2019 23:19:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NA20qRvoYqXF for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2019 23:19:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 142D3130E76 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2019 23:19:51 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2019 23:19:49 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550819989; bh=35b4Z7YHqBUkdlCs97Qp8hFa1v8MEK9J9GGpSAbtNJk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=WR/8SX6KDl0f5iAKvwt+K7ULmLg887WbGLn4q1EUjOpVUx/nva82q2Szq/Y1djUgu 23v0fnkWHbeXuAJlo4i0Jz4AMTcGGXuMa/BMbU5oaQapOF7zcdSRKffZsVf8j3g4Lj Vwx+rJo7eIQk69fdTiUlwWi9kpTqRtltcJwMd63U= From: Mark Nottingham Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Introduce a "late-stage" process (#2479) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c6fa295e5e59_55d43fbf0e0d45b4110499"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mnot X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2019 07:19:54 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c6fa295e5e59_55d43fbf0e0d45b4110499 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Merged #2479 into master. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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[ci skip] From nobody Fri Feb 22 01:15:34 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34353124D68 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2019 01:15:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UFoB0d0iKdYZ for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2019 01:15:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from o10.sgmail.github.com (o10.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C6BDB1289FA for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2019 01:15:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=xoE8fvl9jNP5yTTV8CXaPLPxeRs=; b=jTSjYZneCkQilgNv ZYJxCJg4xuZ12DXVV/YynOvU/egXtsX5MrDyxsFZZsz/yzvT2nVHtZthmyB026u3 8FMNvR9LYlSOCS9HNbBXNh06aRhTChxL899FJnbPoyI0FGlcFN5wotsPdNkouQ5s 3sYYMaLGF9q38hdnURqcsrAcmfk= Received: by filter0918p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0918p1las1-11557-5C6FBDB1-27 2019-02-22 09:15:29.89225049 +0000 UTC m=+31260.697495118 Received: from github-lowworker-cef7735.cp1-iad.github.net (unknown [192.30.252.35]) by ismtpd0046p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id VeRn3NsHQv2sqZij9bClAQ for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2019 09:15:29.740 +0000 (UTC) Received: from github.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by github-lowworker-cef7735.cp1-iad.github.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B77C51E039A for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2019 01:15:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2019 09:15:29 +0000 (UTC) From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Specify what occurs when the maximum Stream Id exceeds 2^62 - 1 in MAX_STREAMS (#2487) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c6fbdb1b5751_6693fe5006d45b454232"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak3m6xUjmse4sielCWJiqS76q2UNpoXRS8joCm QdKOBgDcXX6lH0fFrtUr7ogis4K/XOX+Wu5p+UELSa4rUaeMzb9aZKoU56/q5ccdaNpxz1sSrtQWnG wzYVHEwh5yXcKkr4vovtH6Jkip/NiXN9IUxXfchNnRslNqJLNzjjrag7gD4P3J3chhC+NVg3zYL+hm 4= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2019 09:15:33 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c6fbdb1b5751_6693fe5006d45b454232 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'd also lean towards closing the connection (probably with a TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR, not a PROTOCOL_VIOLATION though). 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I'd also lean towards closing the connection (probably with a TRANSPORT_= PARAMETER_ERROR, not a PROTOCOL_VIOLATION though).

Interestingly, we have the following definition for packet numbers

Packet numbers are integers in the range 0 to 2^62-1

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Thanks @kazuho, I've been waiting for this PR to land.

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Closed #2049.

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Describing the special case turns out to be kind of awkward, because you'd have to make a lot of assumptions about an implementation's packet packing logic.

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Oh, I see what you have here. How about you add 2^60-1 here just to be extra clear.

But I think that this is an error condition.

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----==_mimepart_5c7190456b987_6cca3f8c6dad45c42446e8-- From nobody Sat Feb 23 11:38:50 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9389212F1AC for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2019 11:38:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id J8JrvbmUWmG2 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2019 11:38:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6D4D612870E for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2019 11:38:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2019 11:38:46 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550950726; bh=XQ8Qf9BtmMlyJ8YpS229H1VSohXBuFTo+H3wj67U14c=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=RUKkzhoiMMpToVxSm7HeF4lR5Yr3Q6YTCRFkaV+fWHruGcun74Ietv2Of3rxnKHbt 1JS4YAbLrEZKWj5VFhz7tYjtnMnVRicfJMazuFMuKr1I2xP7FxLPn2/n3AFz2kKbpN 52kPZNfJkXcjc8GpS9oWXZUrdiX8HvVOjf3OETAc= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Connection ID Length changes (#2473) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c71a14695cc_d683fc857ad45bc2055512"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2019 19:38:50 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c71a14695cc_d683fc857ad45bc2055512 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm willing to concede that a server preferred address is a special case here. Destination IP address is accessible, if awkward to get at. There is also a valid argument that says that you get what you ask for. Either way, I don't see this being resolved here effectively. You could raise this on the list or wait until Prague to discuss in person. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2473#issuecomment-466684100 ----==_mimepart_5c71a14695cc_d683fc857ad45bc2055512 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I'm willing to concede that a server preferred address is a special ca= se here. Destination IP address is accessible, if awkward to get at.

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Commit: 51cfe3c3ba82ba397a9d8bbb013a1677fbda1796 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/51cfe3c3ba82ba397a9d8bbb013a1677fbda1796 Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2019-02-23 (Sat, 23 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- applications or protocols Reverse the two for readability. 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  • d81b39d Change back to largest_lost_packet

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>     OnPacketsLost(lost_packets):
      // Remove lost packets from bytes_in_flight.
      for (lost_packet : lost_packets):
        bytes_in_flight -= lost_packet.size
-     largest_lost_packet = lost_packets.last()
+     newest_lost_packet = lost_packets.last()

Elsewhere we use largest(ie: largest_acked) and there are currently no uses of newest in the recovery draft, so I'm going to change this back to largest. If we want to start using newest, let's do that in a separate PR.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>     OnPacketsLost(lost_packets):
      // Remove lost packets from bytes_in_flight.
      for (lost_packet : lost_packets):
        bytes_in_flight -= lost_packet.size
-     largest_lost_packet = lost_packets.last()
+     newest_lost_packet = lost_packets.last()

Fine with me. I might look at changing it later.

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----==_mimepart_5c741a3ce65_43f73fdb07cd45c092968-- From nobody Mon Feb 25 08:45:13 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 997E9130F1F for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2019 08:45:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9jfHNo4S1ZCu for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2019 08:45:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from o11.sgmail.github.com (o11.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D77F130E8E for ; 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[ci skip] From nobody Mon Feb 25 11:15:03 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 879D0130FD3 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2019 11:15:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id F4WcJ-uhUBO0 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2019 11:15:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from o6.sgmail.github.com (o6.sgmail.github.com [192.254.113.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6B6B8130F5C for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2019 11:14:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=rPQH5G4BqHrwT5yC1cAvG7jJCYc=; b=FL2cG2yJNbu3AG3y 2RSr/3Ov88D5/XzbMwKOWiTW1/8RBBZjjoAlzzanFGIVuBdSqI7Os+h4NMkFZ/av BS6Sc+NO0b/fwketx3fN3/wd4cjYAAZ/VBFzpPdQqydANz0AtrYeDAzpBLZtlp09 kHcauSB+VesrcQj/Qr3wt9DsWN4= Received: by filter1609p1mdw1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter1609p1mdw1-8966-5C743E94-73 2019-02-25 19:14:28.949112766 +0000 UTC m=+325001.543213876 Received: from github-lowworker-3c598a3.cp1-iad.github.net (unknown [192.30.252.43]) by ismtpd0005p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id numaVEIzRreNvvnuGs7kUA for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2019 19:14:28.842 +0000 (UTC) Received: from github.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by github-lowworker-3c598a3.cp1-iad.github.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBE82A8028E for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2019 11:14:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 19:14:29 +0000 (UTC) From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] New connection IDs are mandatory for intentional migration (#2414) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c743e94c9087_75c53f96c70d45c44915ac"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak2greaxElG/xgeKEn7BDeTpJaCDF57Lw5MTlb wo9N1Ylcs2kJLzEvq6IJpkdavWjqIpN4evzZrHKR1W16og4u9WvVuWd7z9tsDW4q4sFKk5TyLpwMOg J1MqEOGQwbwLCrS5oKQcJdZh61ZSg6pFsooHgQqszQty6rGikmFpYGbxEv/Pc1SxHyQwLpm+e70MD4 w= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 19:15:02 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c743e94c9087_75c53f96c70d45c44915ac Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The requirement previously existed, but was accidentally dropped during one of the CID rewrites. 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The requirement previously existed, but was accidentally dropped during = one of the CID rewrites. The underlying question is whether we had consens= us to remove the requirement previously -- if so, then reversing ourselves = requires consensus. If not, then it's just fixing an accidental deletion.<= /p>

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If the PR that removed it doesn't have a note about removing it, I'd consider it an accidental deletion(which is what I suspect).

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I thought the overall requirement for changing CIDs was still in the text, so it doesn't seem like the issue is a= round adding/removing a requirement, but rather the rest of the accompanyin= g text here?
Otherwise, not sure how this isn't entirely editorial, since the main requi= rement is already in place.

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+however it is recognized that these protections are imperfect.  Therefor=
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+QUIC is not inherently vulnerable to replay attack.  The management of Q=
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+for those produced by TLS or the application protocol that QUIC serves.=0D=
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Similarly to how the server can provide tokens for future connections with the NEW_TOKEN frame, it could be useful to be able to do the same with Alt-Svc. This way the server can decide to be more aggressive about requiring a token for new connections while avoiding the additional round-trip caused by Retry when a client has never connected over QUIC before.

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One might choose to do this with a new Alt-Svc parameter. Theres some = interesting interrelation with the ma and persist parameters that might h= appen.

If I understand correctly, a server would need to generate a unique to= ken per client. Presently, as far as I've observed, Alt-Svc is used a bit= more as a blanket hint. I don't think there is anything preventing it fr= om being more targeted but there are challenges.

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Packet numbers cross paths, CIDs don't.

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----==_mimepart_5c75c7f57f87b_663c3fe0e20d45b41606fd-- From nobody Tue Feb 26 15:22:29 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03E331279E6 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2019 15:22:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4zuVG93c3D2r for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2019 15:22:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 806C2126D00 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2019 15:22:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 15:22:25 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1551223345; bh=VOTdIF+gOxpfMdYG3bkp5DrdLwyt6VivYUrwy2344Jo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=UrDD0bqU2WpBHH0drgneq2BaqWCiiQm0dcPx0a3zKh5nL5LM5JxJmBUSAn1rrg3Gl CIHWg4aHmDafv8T5/beE2gsW3F60MfjC3RzGljDm7KuY2O6oWiFMFUSKCSt4WnUmp2 fv8v0DalM3D6nZ5072YKHjdNEUDVGsaM7S0sQLME= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Recovery draft unclear about when to stop sending an ACK for every packet when packets are missing (#1968) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c75ca314d4ff_5d233f84ddcd45b4286982"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 23:22:28 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c75ca314d4ff_5d233f84ddcd45b4286982 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Closed #1968. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1968#event-2166460876 ----==_mimepart_5c75ca314d4ff_5d233f84ddcd45b4286982 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Closed #1968.

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----==_mimepart_5c75ca314d4ff_5d233f84ddcd45b4286982-- From nobody Tue Feb 26 15:24:48 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F34F1286E7 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2019 15:24:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.384 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.384 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AfrQ07IgNOpK for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2019 15:24:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DC3D01279E6 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2019 15:24:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 15:24:44 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1551223484; bh=Eq4J2inF/1jkFcxCNSKMHAxOr83BTcdDFeizUE20JRk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=P05eWDe/RVHmoAKI31pTwVYmlXrmzV4bbIwREXaxeyxElrLlEr7BewZD5eZFsp2fB CszJ65Hf6vaDO/TLrtl2qH2WKs6iwvOtyRDcPMLa9+qUpeSnlS7W1STFRf+/bgTV/Q C2xFmQ0jxJ9AQd81IZ9aJpiFUCS8+ef3jQM86ITw= From: Mark Nottingham Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Sender-Controlled Delayed ACK Ratio (#1978) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c75cabc74cb_13cc3f9e528d45c03611ab"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mnot X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 23:24:46 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c75cabc74cb_13cc3f9e528d45c03611ab Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think the appropriate tag for this is quicv2 -- i.e., we're not going to do it in the scope of our current work. Any disagreement? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1978#issuecomment-467657278 ----==_mimepart_5c75cabc74cb_13cc3f9e528d45c03611ab Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I think the appropriate tag for this is quicv2 -- i.e., we're not going to do it in the scope of our current work. Any disagreement?

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Closed #2319.

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----==_mimepart_5c7616f6bf331_3c203f81a66d45b8794f9-- From nobody Wed Feb 27 09:24:30 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A36D131024 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2019 09:24:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9m1z7mDNEys1 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2019 09:24:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7BEF4130FFF for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2019 09:24:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 09:24:25 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1551288265; bh=HDWwUnNTzwmCsy6o0zQ9S7fE0y4wIMYlq2hBhad4BIE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=svsIcdyA8fISYMn23Hc+/BC5A+41Q5DE4cm2yP/4CAGiY05DcFdzXsSCzaISFRfFP HGy0X3xdDIaJanzv/5bu97rgJoU+WhCDaPAE/p6MiKaYcrOHJzK3qfvv5rh8oF4wuX JLtszxXUR1PVLv0c9EJ6Y3OE1dx4YCPLVkVuY9+s= From: Alessandro Ghedini Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clarify what to do when ALPN negotiation fails (#2483) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c76c7c964eef_60ad3fd9f66d45c42934c0"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ghedo X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 17:24:28 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c76c7c964eef_60ad3fd9f66d45c42934c0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @martinthomson I added a clarification to allow clients to send no_application_negotiated as well. Should I send an email to the mailing list for discussion now that the new process is in effect? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2483#issuecomment-467952974 ----==_mimepart_5c76c7c964eef_60ad3fd9f66d45c42934c0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@martinthomson I added a clarification to allow clients to send no_application_negotiated as well. Should I send an email to the mailing list for discussion now that the new process is in effect?

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I'm not convinced this is a design change -- there was previously a SHOULD, and this adds additional text (including a MAY) around when you might choose to violate the SHOULD. However, no mandatory behavior is added, changed, or removed.

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@MikeBishop requested changes on this pull request.

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I don't know that this needs new 2119 language; can't we simply say th= at "When a MAX_STREAMS frame permits more streams than can be expressed b= y the stream ID (i.e. greater than 2^60 - 1), all valid Stream IDs of tha= t type can be used."?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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type) can be opened (see {{long-packet-types}}).  Initial=0D
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+be opened is greater than 2^62 - 1, then the receiver MUST interpret it =
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+stream limit and the receiver MUST NOT close the connection.=0D
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I don't think this says quite what you mean -- I can send you a MAX_ST= REAMS frame with a very large value and prohibit you from closing the con= nection thereafter? Of course, the only way to violate that prohibition = is to close the connection, and the only punishment is to close the conne= ction, so this would be entirely toothless even if it were what you meant= .

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persist=3Dfalse seems to cover it quite nicely; of course, = to get the "right" behavior, you'd have to include two entries -- one non-p= ersistent and with a token, the other persistent. It would be simpler to d= efine that, even on a persistent entry, the token can only be used on the s= ame network where it was issued.

I'm not convinced this needs to be in the core spec, though the VN hint = technically doesn't need to be either.

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Thanks Mike, I took your suggested language.

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When you say VN, do you mean the Alt-Svc version hint in the HTTP/3 document? (Just for clarification purposes)

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Yes -- the hint as to which QUIC versions the server intends to support.

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Unfortunately yes. This is a design change so it will need an issue as well.

I like it and we should do it, but can you add the error code we would use in CONNECTION_CLOSE to the text?

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I'm going with editorial then.

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----==_mimepart_5c76f7787ec1d_1ede3fb0136d45b81766e7-- From nobody Wed Feb 27 12:48:09 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08FB7131154 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2019 12:47:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hjDD8esgLW8H for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2019 12:47:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from o1.sgmail.github.com (o1.sgmail.github.com [192.254.114.176]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CE46C13112E for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2019 12:47:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=s20150108; bh=8Nwnwlytfjnef1d561jUx2dWyzg=; b=Ul//cfxtSqi1s8Ki sODnZ4acGWz/m35ZBtnrCVebrmiLUQ6bNPArceV3/6uR2BjrPTut0cFyLGG9Yql0 ffFJfx9WvT6JOiABm1GEuO71OMMnCis8f9SpYKp+4bKOgFZoCuHx8ohErZUx9+De /9yqpdyFR3jm2CF2AlVd41q5v5k= Received: by filter1070p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter1070p1las1-19031-5C76F77A-F 2019-02-27 20:47:54.289269563 +0000 UTC m=+504547.183558158 Received: from github-lowworker-3c598a3.cp1-iad.github.net (unknown [192.30.252.43]) by ismtpd0039p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id 3YzBBipkQvOsrHUYoKGREw for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2019 20:47:54.129 +0000 (UTC) Received: from github.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by github-lowworker-3c598a3.cp1-iad.github.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CC7AA802D9 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2019 12:47:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 20:47:55 +0000 (UTC) From: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] 1bb6c3: clarify what happens when consuming CIDs excessively Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak3u60yvhHlYQadwYIiSLNeSykN8cifSwcZXfG LzEFS8SjDAlXPL4dXua4gn9IEYHvqUE75kalf6oEYh7zWvCQooShBGFtk0Wbvc9EC3hTe+Ed9OZMpH QmGhpYWvkiWBEz142Mbm+hL5BZlKZ5PP4lZMSpJUCHsA1bHstAXdOPcrhSnBU3w5LjaZuo3bohP+iq Q= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 20:48:02 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: 1bb6c3e804945f7adda97c2e7ec1785bda04a18d https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1bb6c3e804945f7adda97c2e7ec1785bda04a18d Author: Kazuho Oku Date: 2019-02-06 (Wed, 06 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- clarify what happens when consuming CIDs excessively Commit: 88fac6e73653b10c6963af152ab93327c8102f80 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/88fac6e73653b10c6963af152ab93327c8102f80 Author: Kazuho Oku Date: 2019-02-06 (Wed, 06 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Revert "clarify what happens when consuming CIDs excessively" This reverts commit 1bb6c3e804945f7adda97c2e7ec1785bda04a18d. 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[ci skip] From nobody Thu Feb 28 03:19:26 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 551DB128BCC for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2019 03:19:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ai4W0tYqvM2W for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2019 03:19:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 323BC130E7E for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2019 03:19:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2019 03:19:20 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1551352760; bh=5rrmuKWspcnFgvhOdzsqawCNvVHBhGkwUOLq+6StPb0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=X/J0MaMH0FYr6kQIOUUcS56CuZc86TMSiFN+xcMOWQwd4mt7kf5irHrNqnAVAjEH0 n9dPuJFNxsw52d9EarBhgRqImU7pLTNrP0qWTCwa2J3lcvEdJJsD+j/cyEn/5TkzXu hOCOSBGJPGuPB54hIJXjDMr3mwoGZg972dNbqmm0= From: Alessandro Ghedini Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Fix PTO calculation in pseudo-code (#2489) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c77c3b8bf774_70be3f9e076d45b882448"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ghedo X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2019 11:19:24 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c77c3b8bf774_70be3f9e076d45b882448 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Maybe I'm missing something, but it seems #2480 forgot to update the pseudo-code where PTO is used. Also, should the PTO calculated in `InPersistentCongestion()` also use `kGranularity`? You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2489 -- Commit Summary -- * Fix PTO calculation in pseudo-code -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md (3) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2489.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2489.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2489 ----==_mimepart_5c77c3b8bf774_70be3f9e076d45b882448 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Maybe I'm missing something, but it seems #2480 forgot to update the pseudo-code where PTO is used.

Also, should the PTO calculated in InPersistentCongestion() also use kGranularity?

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2489

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  • Fix PTO calculation in pseudo-code

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for the fix. And yes, I believe InPersistentCongestion() should use kGranularity as well. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2489#issuecomment-468275778 ----==_mimepart_5c77e4a99bbd3_2e383fc540cd45c0100558 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Thanks for the fix. And yes, I believe InPersistentCongestion() should use kGranularity as well.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2670,9 +2670,10 @@ complete.  Though the values of some fields in the packet header might be
 redundant, no fields are omitted.  The receiver of coalesced QUIC packets MUST
 individually process each QUIC packet and separately acknowledge them, as if
 they were received as the payload of different UDP datagrams.  For example, if
-decryption fails (because the keys are not available or any other reason), the
-the receiver MAY either discard or buffer the packet for later processing and
-MUST attempt to process the remaining packets.
+decryption fails (because the keys are not available, the UDP datagram is a PMTU
+probe (see {{pmtu-probes-src-cid}}), or any other reason), the the receiver MAY

The new commit updates the text as requested / discussed. Resolving this.

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I think the point @MikeBishop is making is a sensible one. The e= xplicit text that Mike has quoted is implying that servers SHOULD use Clien= t-chosen CID for routing. After all, this purpose is explicitly stated, wi= thout any caveats, right there in the spec.

I would rather see that quoted text removed altogether. It is enough to= state that "A client SHOULD select an initial Destination Connection I= D length long enough to satisfy the minimum size requirements for every QUI= C version it supports". This is accurate and not misleading.

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In the Recovery Draft pseudocode section:

kInitialWindow: : Default limit on the initial amount of data in flight, in bytes. Taken from {{?RFC6928}}. The RECOMMENDED value is the minimum of 10 * kMaxDatagramSize and max(2* kMaxDatagramSize, 14600)).

Why 14600? This looks like 10 * MSS, but for UDP this should be 14720. It would lead to neat MSS multiples were that code ever executed.

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This was taken from RFC6928: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6928

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Well, yes, but that is for TCP and I'm arguing that 14720 makes a lot more sense for QUIC.

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We had discussed RETIRE_KEYS in Tokyo, and this PR attempts to write that up.

RETIRE_KEYS is an explicit signal allowing peers to agree on when to discard unused keys. It simplifies the text for discarding initial keys and allows efficiently discarding handshake keys without requiring timers or risking deadlocks (#2214).

I believe this is simpler to reason about than the KEYS_ACTIVE proposal (#2237) and safer as it makes less assumptions about the handshake protocol.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2492

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  • Initial draft of RETIRE_KEYS

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As discussed with @janaiyengar, 6.2.2.2 is awkward, because in the first paragraph it says

   When a PTO timer expires, the sender MUST send one ack-eliciting
   packet as a probe.

And then the very last paragraph changes that by saying

   When a PTO timer expires, new or previously-sent data may not be
   available to send and packets may still be in flight.  A sender can
   be blocked from sending new data in the future if packets are left in
   flight.  Under these conditions, a sender SHOULD mark any packets
   still in flight as lost.

What is super unclear is that the final paragraph apparently means to imply that when there is no new or unACKed data to send, nothing should be send, i.e., it invalidates the SHOULD in the first paragraph.

Related to that, the pseudo code still uses SendTwoPackets(), which is also inaccurate, since it's really "at least one (unless you don't have new or unACKed data) but can also send two". Good luck finding a good name for that function :-)

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----==_mimepart_5c7883644d831_6fc13fa9424d45c42179ef-- From nobody Thu Feb 28 19:37:59 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B2E213114D for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2019 19:37:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kzDimmr1t9Mp for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2019 19:37:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E4A56131166 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2019 19:37:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2019 19:37:52 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1551411472; bh=sxEAyXWDTf7/ZDNNQFbLkQiw/ADOlF3GAEAOe6B1XaQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=u1UIktnxh2/Gn6JCn4SkA0Qs0FEPnS57I6aJqut7K3XxIWa4e5BSEe3e3aW7htIe1 UqsORjGuadQzm/fIdbgjZPo/jVYA89he3trm46AdX/Fx9GwwcQi5EY9mWJSnbqqCIi fvQ4u7vrW6/TAF/hNXq3bNclSGP7UC31/a+w3+OY= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] RETIRE_KEYS proposal (#2492) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c78a910ca896_6cbf3f8c710d45c06175d3"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2019 03:37:59 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c78a910ca896_6cbf3f8c710d45c06175d3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson commented on this pull request. > Though an endpoint might retain older keys, new data MUST be sent at the highest currently-available encryption level. Only ACK frames and retransmissions of data in CRYPTO frames are sent at a previous encryption level. These packets MAY also include PADDING frames. -Once this timer expires, an endpoint MUST NOT either accept or generate new -packets using those packet protection keys. An endpoint can discard packet -protection keys for that encryption level. +Endpoints coordinate on when to discard unused keys using the RETIRE_KEYS +frame. At a high level, each endpoint sends a RETIRE_KEYS frame when they +are done sending using those keys; when an endpoint has both sent and received +a RETIRE_KEYS frame for a given encryption level, it discards the corresponding +keys. More specifically, an endpoint is done sending using a given set of keys This is probably not what you intended here. I think you mean to say that all *previous* keys are discarded. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2492#pullrequestreview-209416350 ----==_mimepart_5c78a910ca896_6cbf3f8c710d45c06175d3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@martinthomson commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>  Though an endpoint might retain older keys, new data MUST be sent at the highest
 currently-available encryption level.  Only ACK frames and retransmissions of
 data in CRYPTO frames are sent at a previous encryption level.  These packets
 MAY also include PADDING frames.
 
-Once this timer expires, an endpoint MUST NOT either accept or generate new
-packets using those packet protection keys.  An endpoint can discard packet
-protection keys for that encryption level.
+Endpoints coordinate on when to discard unused keys using the RETIRE_KEYS
+frame. At a high level, each endpoint sends a RETIRE_KEYS frame when they
+are done sending using those keys; when an endpoint has both sent and received
+a RETIRE_KEYS frame for a given encryption level, it discards the corresponding
+keys. More specifically, an endpoint is done sending using a given set of keys

This is probably not what you intended here. I think you mean to say that all previous keys are discarded.

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