From nobody Mon Apr 1 00:00:03 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A914D120046 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2019 00:00:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cB0j9Fhy1Wy8 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2019 00:00:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8281B12003F for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2019 00:00:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2019 23:59:59 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554101999; bh=tvNEy6zGbvhngP3sR+nXGzJKo5Cl8VFoCkgeYOfL5yE=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=aE7bY/FVwndD9aNzeEpVBiqq8GfhTty0ZQySsVd7R0jBZuJ7wluB8IHbC6UfYJDKt IojinJRFujYBRewAvzJ82DmLO/fDy6ttLIc5S/XXiD48mrjki093jERbIuTpUgbTfE 5N33AOr61EgONQaw4KkB+RJ31Qf8/ofnMFRELhQI= From: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] 5d3ea4: Script updating gh-pages from 4367e0f6. 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[ci skip] From nobody Mon Apr 1 00:01:24 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 920EE12006B for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2019 00:01:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.455 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.455 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QblFFA0nbUnC for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2019 00:01:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3D86A12003F for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2019 00:01:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2019 00:01:20 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554102080; bh=em1lep/FtjYGCwisO9qzc2r4KFH0l+aHZa2NXXyNDB8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=v2ImsU0oERVEOL1qWmyZ3fuI/0/UNdkRb1NVdZlgDiF7UioQkC/b+qqtOFbuEbZF+ WwmwuNYvIGcSCfsIf72R2k6ztAPFuig+/pETERDIfMtr63d6Scmv5/YUggimSJ4Pkn NJanYl54/YW0SnUXM2MzSgwmdBE0MPGHSKYsne08= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Saving a round-trip time in the initial handshakes with retry (#2552) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ca1b7402e6b1_28053fa0e4cd45b446712f"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2019 07:01:23 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ca1b7402e6b1_28053fa0e4cd45b446712f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My recommendation: mark this quicv2. 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My recommendation: mark this quicv2. This is best implemented as an extension.

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I realise this may be a bit out of context for this PR, but I can't find any clear definition of when the handshake is complete other than this being magically spawned from the inner workings of TLS.

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Closes #2481.

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  • Clarify final size definition

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The text here had a MUST prohibiting data+offset from exceeding 2^62-1. But that is redundant with flow control, which can't express a limit greater than this anyway. So just point to FLOW_CONTROL_ERROR. 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Closes #2540.

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To expand on this a little. I don't anticipate Retry being used very = often. QUIC provides Retry for extraordinary circumstances only. Most s= ervers will be able to complete the handshake without an explicit address= validation step, relying on the implicit address validation provided by = the sending and receipt of encrypted packets. Retry might be used by ser= vers with absurd certificates (maybe), by servers deploying massive PQ ke= y exchange messages (maybe in future), or when servers are under load and= they want to validate clients before expending resources.

This therefore less useful than a cross-origin TLS session ticket. It= might have some utility, but I suspect that it won't be necessary in the= general case.

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Closes #2558.

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  • No state transition if RESET_STREAM is suppressed

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I'd expect it to be increasingly common to deploy multiple regional clusters and it is not always practical to rely on a global anyIP load balancer - for example one might only support layer 7 traffic. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2552#issuecomment-478508176 ----==_mimepart_5ca1db91be403_6f163f98768d45c02446b3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Isn't retry useful as a replacement to anyCast IP? I'd expect it to be increasingly common to deploy multiple regional clusters and it is not always practical to rely on a global anyIP load balancer - for example one might only support layer 7 traffic.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4115,6 +4130,25 @@ preferred_address (0x000d):
 ~~~
 {: #fig-preferred-address title="Preferred Address format"}
 
+version_aliases (0x000e):
+
+: A list of version numbers that the server accepts as an alias for the
+  currently used versions. This transport parameter is only sent by the server.
+  Every version alias contains a lifetime in seconds. The alias is only valid
+  for that lifetime, clients MUST NOT use it after expiry.
+
+~~~
+   struct {
+     uint32 VersionNumber;
+     varint Lifetime;

Making the Lifetime a fixed uint32 in milliseconds would limit the alias to roughly two month. Could be a practical solution as the variant encoding does not really save space for lifetimes in the range of days.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3246,7 +3246,21 @@ Implementors are encouraged to register version numbers of QUIC that they are
 using for private experimentation on the GitHub wiki at
 \<https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/wiki/QUIC-Versions\>.
 
-
+## Version Aliases
+
+In order to avoid ossification of the version number defined by this draft,
+servers announce a list of version numbers that they interpret as an alias for
+the version number used in this draft. Alias versions MUST NOT be a reserved
+version. Servers SHOULD send at least one version alias, and SHOULD frequently
+change the value that they announce. Each version alias contains a lifetime,
+which indicates how long the server will accept this version alias. It also
+contains an initial salt, which is used instead of the initial salt as defined

Even without the salt, the presence of multiple QUIC versions with different salts would force a middle-box to opportunistically decrypt initials using different salts. So if we decide QUIC being blocked because of too much obfuscation is a consideration, this proposal adds to this level even without a salt.

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----==_mimepart_5ca1e5ec2d293_79953fb0466d45bc1159b0-- From nobody Mon Apr 1 04:56:59 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98CDF12010D for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2019 04:56:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.384 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.384 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id f3cndF3LC7kE for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2019 04:56:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 80469120127 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2019 04:56:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2019 04:56:47 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554119807; bh=0NBlg1HMMeaEhwrRUPHZbAYYe9MhFgkxxt6KeZOa6ew=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=zeKQqVT6Hkcy6kh6KJleid5tMYegwgZn1RoSYkd3DMruv9on+e43qdnU/ZCNkhGE6 zToZoUTWwY8KLGq8rUPRIRFUBdrnovdMKGfrI3NpRaKZaQYVFAlclZXQsqKZRTQSjH U537/HhaljWrULGeK/q2bvusj5bFTLXBH91yDeXs= From: Igor Lubashev Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Path validation should be done even for what looks like NAT rebinding (#2579) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ca1fc7f1f71a_50b73f87c78d45bc1297aa"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: igorlord X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2019 11:56:58 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ca1fc7f1f71a_50b73f87c78d45bc1297aa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Section 9 (Connection migration) says: > NAT rebinding is not connection migration as defined in this section, though an endpoint SHOULD perform path validation (Section 8.2) if it detects a change in the IP address of its peer. If the server does not perform path validation upon a port change and no ip address change, this becomes a possible DoS vector for an attacker behind the same NAT as the client. The attacker must just capture and replay the packet from its own address, securing a new outgoing port on the NAT. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2579 ----==_mimepart_5ca1fc7f1f71a_50b73f87c78d45bc1297aa Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Section 9 (Connection migration) says:

NAT rebinding is not connection migration as defined in this section, though an endpoint SHOULD perform path validation (Section 8.2) if it detects a change in the IP address of its peer.

If the server does not perform path validation upon a port change and no ip address change, this becomes a possible DoS vector for an attacker behind the same NAT as the client. The attacker must just capture and replay the packet from its own address, securing a new outgoing port on the NAT.

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A QUIC server that is not validating the source address of a client be= fore proceeding with the connection establishment is a vulnerable system.= Adversaries can easily launch attacks to exhaust the server's resources = or exploit the server within reflection attacks against other endpoints.<= br>=0D QUIC deploys mitigations such as limiting the response size. However, it = is unclear at this point in time whether these defenses are sufficient.=0D As the Internet is a hostile place, we will observe that QUIC servers hav= e to make use of stateless retries to validate the client=E2=80=99s sourc= e address. However, a trustworthy prediction of the number of connection = establishments using a stateless retry seems currently not to be feasible= .

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The proposal allows compensating for the costs of preventing IP addres= s spoofing across connections to several hostnames. Thus, it provides an = improved security versus performance tradeoff compared to the status quo.=

=0D

As the probability of a stateless retry seems to be higher for resumed= TLS sessions, session resumption across SNI values provides another ince= ntive to implement this proposal.

=0D

If we agree, that this presents a useful feature for QUIC=E2=80=99s co= nnection establishment, then I prefer to mark it quicv1. The reason is, t= hat it allows saving round-trip during the establishment of initial conne= ctions even when the same security requirements are applied as TLS over T= CP does. Thus, it provides an additional incentive to deploy QUIC instead= of using TLS over TCP.

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Section 9 (Connection Migration) says:

=0D
=0D

[...] an endpoint SHOULD perform path validation (Section 8.2) if it d= etects a change in the IP address of its peer.

=0D
=0D

Section 9.2 (Responding to Connection Migration) says:

=0D
=0D

In response to such a packet [a packet from a new peer address contain= ing a non-probing frame], an endpoint MUST start sending subsequent packe= ts to the new peer address and MUST initiate path validation (Section 8.2= ) to verify the peer=E2=80=99s ownership of the unvalidated address.

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So:

=0D
    =0D
  1. =0D

    Is performing path validation (Section 8.2) a SHOULD or a MUST? I wou= ld prefer "a MUST, unless the endpoint has other means validate the valid= ate the new path"

    =0D
    2. =0D
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    If sending subsequent packets immediately a MUST? Not even a "MUST af= ter validation"?

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    3. =0D
=0D =0D

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On-path measurement and use of the latency spin bit is further +discussed in {{QUIC-MANAGEABILITY}}. + +The spin bit is an OPTIONAL feature of QUIC. A QUIC stack that chooses to +support the spin bit MUST implement it as specified in this document. + +Each endpoint unilaterally decides if the spin bit is enabled or disabled for a +connection. Implementations MUST allow administrators of clients and servers +to disable the spin bit either globally or on a per-connection basis. Even when +the spin bit is not disabled by the administrator implementations MUST disable +the spin bit on a randomly chosen fraction of connections. The random selection +process SHOULD be designed such that on average the spin bit is disabled for at +least one eighth of network paths. The selection process should be externally +unpredictable but consistent for any given combination of source and destination +address and port. The selection process performed at the beginning of the Should it be consistent for address/port forever? Is this restriction actually needed...? What's the reasoning for this? > +the spin bit on a randomly chosen fraction of connections. The random selection +process SHOULD be designed such that on average the spin bit is disabled for at +least one eighth of network paths. The selection process should be externally +unpredictable but consistent for any given combination of source and destination +address and port. The selection process performed at the beginning of the +connection SHOULD be applied for all paths used by the connection. + +In case multiple connections share the same five-tuple, i.e. same source and +destination IP address and UDP port the setting of the spin bit needs to be +coordinated across all connections to ensure a clear signal to any on path +measurement point, however that might not be feasible. + +When the spin bit is disabled, endpoints MAY set the spin bit to any value, and +MUST accept any incoming value. It is RECOMMENDED that they set the spin bit to +a random value either chosen independently for each packet, or chosen +independently for each path and kept constant for that path. I this we should recommend to set to the same value for the whole connection. That's easier to implement, easier to cope with in the network, and I don't see a benefit of randomly setting it on a per-packet basis for the endpoint. > +independently for each path and kept constant for that path. + +If the spin bit is enabled for the connection, the endpoint maintains a spin +value and sets the spin bit in the short header to the currently stored +value when a packet with a short header is sent out. The spin value is +initialized to 0 in the endpoint at connection start. Each endpoint also +remembers the highest packet number seen from its peer on the connection. + +When a server receives a short header packet that increments the highest +packet number seen by the server from the client, it sets the spin value to be +equal to the spin bit in the received packet. + +When a client receives a short header packet that increments the highest +packet number seen by the client from the server, it sets the spin value to the +inverse of the spin bit in the received packet. + Maybe add a sentence, explaining why this is done, e.g. "With this mechanism, the server reflects the spin value received, while the client 'spins' it after one RTT. On network observers can measure the time between two spin bit toggle events and thereby estimate the end-to-end RTT of a connection, e.g. for network monitoring purposes." -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@mirjak requested changes on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +is available after version negotiation and connection establishment are
+completed. On-path measurement and use of the latency spin bit is further
+discussed in {{QUIC-MANAGEABILITY}}.
+
+The spin bit is an OPTIONAL feature of QUIC. A QUIC stack that chooses to
+support the spin bit MUST implement it as specified in this document.
+
+Each endpoint unilaterally decides if the spin bit is enabled or disabled for a
+connection. Implementations MUST allow administrators of clients and servers
+to disable the spin bit either globally or on a per-connection basis. Even when
+the spin bit is not disabled by the administrator implementations MUST disable
+the spin bit on a randomly chosen fraction of connections. The random selection
+process SHOULD be designed such that on average the spin bit is disabled for at
+least one eighth of network paths. The selection process should be externally
+unpredictable but consistent for any given combination of source and destination
+address and port. The selection process performed at the beginning of the

Should it be consistent for address/port forever? Is this restriction actually needed...? What's the reasoning for this?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +the spin bit on a randomly chosen fraction of connections. The random selection
+process SHOULD be designed such that on average the spin bit is disabled for at
+least one eighth of network paths. The selection process should be externally
+unpredictable but consistent for any given combination of source and destination
+address and port. The selection process performed at the beginning of the
+connection SHOULD be applied for all paths used by the connection.
+
+In case multiple connections share the same five-tuple, i.e. same source and
+destination IP address and UDP port the setting of the spin bit needs to be
+coordinated across all connections to ensure a clear signal to any on path
+measurement point, however that might not be feasible.
+
+When the spin bit is disabled, endpoints MAY set the spin bit to any value, and
+MUST accept any incoming value. It is RECOMMENDED that they set the spin bit to
+a random value either chosen independently for each packet, or chosen
+independently for each path and kept constant for that path.

I this we should recommend to set to the same value for the whole connection. That's easier to implement, easier to cope with in the network, and I don't see a benefit of randomly setting it on a per-packet basis for the endpoint.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +independently for each path and kept constant for that path.
+
+If the spin bit is enabled for the connection, the endpoint maintains a spin
+value and sets the spin bit in the short header to the currently stored
+value when a packet with a short header is sent out. The spin value is
+initialized to 0 in the endpoint at connection start.  Each endpoint also
+remembers the highest packet number seen from its peer on the connection.
+
+When a server receives a short header packet that increments the highest
+packet number seen by the server from the client, it sets the spin value to be
+equal to the spin bit in the received packet.
+
+When a client receives a short header packet that increments the highest
+packet number seen by the client from the server, it sets the spin value to the
+inverse of the spin bit in the received packet.
+

Maybe add a sentence, explaining why this is done, e.g. "With this mechanism, the server reflects the spin value received, while the client 'spins' it after one RTT. On network observers can measure the time between two spin bit toggle events and thereby estimate the end-to-end RTT of a connection, e.g. for network monitoring purposes."

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----==_mimepart_5ca22a402a436_3d5c3fb22b0d45b8180351-- From nobody Mon Apr 1 10:57:13 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9B4F1201A1 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2019 10:57:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HJzYJABRQpBx for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2019 10:57:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C452120187 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2019 10:57:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2019 10:57:07 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554141427; bh=X+dcO4dRKYyz/B85qZoOhZF6zZWAPSoSBiF1ovVHF9g=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=CgvyqYXFIKZj2zMWnE7eP0TLVUdfWXWPh6tCxtk/HdUVX/pSyG4KKKcFDWuV84gWr FYpNY5rm4+PVYPUPK9BCgq+u217EXbaaRPNqVDa0aO5AyBnrn30xOmEZ8+vXnCN2H9 7fG6EZTEXFtOGen8rPMOf71ME6QUPC7gGf2HoUrE= From: Ryan Hamilton Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Add normative language for stateless reset (#2574) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ca250f3d1ac7_6323f9ac4ad45b4202527"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: RyanAtGoogle X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2019 17:57:12 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ca250f3d1ac7_6323f9ac4ad45b4202527 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit RyanAtGoogle commented on this pull request. > @@ -2428,17 +2428,17 @@ This design relies on the peer always sending a connection ID in its packets so that the endpoint can use the connection ID from a packet to reset the connection. An endpoint that uses this design MUST either use the same connection ID length for all connections or encode the length of the connection -ID such that it can be recovered without state. In addition, it cannot -provide a zero-length connection ID. +ID such that it can be recovered without state. In addition, it cannot provide Should this be MUST NOT instead of cannot? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2574#pullrequestreview-221259079 ----==_mimepart_5ca250f3d1ac7_6323f9ac4ad45b4202527 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2428,17 +2428,17 @@ This design relies on the peer always sending a connection ID in its packets so
 that the endpoint can use the connection ID from a packet to reset the
 connection.  An endpoint that uses this design MUST either use the same
 connection ID length for all connections or encode the length of the connection
-ID such that it can be recovered without state.  In addition, it cannot
-provide a zero-length connection ID.
+ID such that it can be recovered without state.  In addition, it cannot provide

Should this be MUST NOT instead of cannot?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4115,6 +4130,25 @@ preferred_address (0x000d):
 ~~~
 {: #fig-preferred-address title="Preferred Address format"}
 
+version_aliases (0x000e):
+
+: A list of version numbers that the server accepts as an alias for the
+  currently used versions. This transport parameter is only sent by the server.
+  Every version alias contains a lifetime in seconds. The alias is only valid
+  for that lifetime, clients MUST NOT use it after expiry.
+
+~~~
+   struct {
+     uint32 VersionNumber;
+     varint Lifetime;

varint is not part of the TLS Presentation Language.

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+1

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In my opinion, NAT rebinding should be treated like connection migration. I don't see why we have to treat it differently.

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----==_mimepart_5ca2b6fc1ab77_40ef3fe2caed45bc470723-- From nobody Mon Apr 1 18:16:34 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76AF3120086 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2019 18:16:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Rc8cgwLWZDZD for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2019 18:16:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-12.smtp.github.com (out-12.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C18B12006E for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2019 18:16:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2019 18:16:30 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554167790; bh=mjyMSYv+yFWHoPhWzGB9LZlG0+2O+sR6+anJO6ldep8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=K6+61Osvj2DIZo7K7v0GhjnoAFq4u2Q0yWEUekj3B+xW2LkRgAOe77//xfVeNze4x 8fAcxgiZiEN1CBBj7geZCBU0XG75n0zPpnjmF/Lps6PH0mrBuBOvbiZ7BQuS81xvPP 9DO5nuSMZ70LLwO9rNHorfv+Msx5s+HmFNQVmSEM= From: David Schinazi Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Path validation should be done even for what looks like NAT rebinding (#2579) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ca2b7ee98ad0_281a3fbfcb4d45c0381661"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: DavidSchinazi X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2019 01:16:34 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ca2b7ee98ad0_281a3fbfcb4d45c0381661 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The difference is that when performing connection migration, the client MUST change connection ID. On the other hand, when the NAT rebinds, the client is not immediately aware of it and there will be packets with the old connection ID coming from the new NAT binding. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2579#issuecomment-478805472 ----==_mimepart_5ca2b7ee98ad0_281a3fbfcb4d45c0381661 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The difference is that when performing connection migration, the clien= t MUST change connection ID. On the other hand, when the NAT rebinds, the= client is not immediately aware of it and there will be packets with the= old connection ID coming from the new NAT binding.

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@DavidSchinazi, the question is whether there is a difference from the server's pov. I am saying that server's response to any change in client source addresses/port SHOULD/MUST be path validation.

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----==_mimepart_5ca2bb1f3ed88_7fb03ff38e8d45c049843-- From nobody Mon Apr 1 18:36:35 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 781E112006E for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2019 18:36:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 45aX3X0qUeGV for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2019 18:36:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5BCA4120021 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2019 18:36:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2019 18:36:31 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554168991; bh=ZbaWEtE9XfbDmM7zPI47i3IVEm51YVD5n1c/I6gunXc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=xLZ+ZNInoGHLPMyem3tVAWCoNSz6thA95OmCuvikr5QMBuFN+kEem/DSyQFBtUWXv 0S7TcTwX851zoRqIlUf5l22jXvvSbHShwGCL/uePwe0LUpqd1Aw7sN9FuKxt1dRWwi iNUjNlntj2EAGicykzAGe7PfqzxbYGv13YjoTTEs= From: erickinnear Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Path validation should be done even for what looks like NAT rebinding (#2579) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ca2bc9f2f4d9_6dcd3f8ac20d45bc180ca"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: erickinnear X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2019 01:36:35 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ca2bc9f2f4d9_6dcd3f8ac20d45bc180ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a branch out (PR coming soon) that removes this -- this part of the attack is something I think @martinduke was looking at a bit. To @DavidSchinazi's point, the change of CID is a really strong signal that the client intends to migrate, but we may want to move that into a note along with the section we have for "server should use heuristics/be smart about what to choose", since the definition in the text above doesn't really change the requirements on the server's behavior and that may confuse people. Whether or not we define it as migration really doesn't change a whole lot, since we say (or should say) that the server has to validate the new path anyways. In other words, always validate everything, unless it's something that's previously passed path validation and not the one you're migrating away from. @igorlord, note that the attack also relies on the attacker being able to race and beat the original client's packet to the server, but there's a whole section for that sort of attack (although I think we need to add to it a bit, or make a variant for the attacker overloading the NAT). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2579#issuecomment-478809319 ----==_mimepart_5ca2bc9f2f4d9_6dcd3f8ac20d45bc180ca Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have a branch out (PR coming soon) that removes this -- this part of= the attack is something I think @martinduke was looking at= a bit.

To @DavidSchinazi's point, the change of CID is a real= ly strong signal that the client intends to migrate, but we may want to m= ove that into a note along with the section we have for "server should us= e heuristics/be smart about what to choose", since the definition in the = text above doesn't really change the requirements on the server's behavio= r and that may confuse people.

Whether or not we define it as migration really doesn't change a whole= lot, since we say (or should say) that the server has to validate the ne= w path anyways. In other words, always validate everything, unless it's s= omething that's previously passed path validation and not the one you're = migrating away from.

@igorlord, note that the attack also relies on the attacke= r being able to race and beat the original client's packet to the server,= but there's a whole section for that sort of attack (although I think we= need to add to it a bit, or make a variant for the attacker overloading = the NAT).

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I agree with @igorlord's and @erickinnear's points

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There are a few DoS vectors in migration that aren't well addressed in the draft. @erickinnear will follow soon with a short PR to address this issue.

The current draft presents a specific case of a general attack. The generalized form of the attack is that the attacker observes both paths. He clones all packets from the client so that they appear to be from both addresses, and makes sure that all packets the server sends to each address both arrive at the client. He has the capability to out-race packets he observes.

The attacker might fabricate a NAT rebinding that didn't happen, or spoof the old address during a rebinding.

With PATH_CHALLENGE going out on both paths, these duplicate packets create four outcomes depending on which packets arrive first: both paths appear to be valid, the right path only is valid, the wrong path only is valid, or neither path is valid. The current requirement that the source address of PATH_RESPONSE matches the destination of the PATH_CHALLENGE can cause validation of the correct path to fail.

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----==_mimepart_5ca2e224241d4_330c3fcdde4d45b85852ed-- From nobody Mon Apr 1 21:30:18 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B671E1200D7 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2019 21:30:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nqX5QtLUC4vA for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2019 21:30:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB4F612001E for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2019 21:30:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2019 21:30:12 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554179412; bh=YAsyiHi+LbgUE9AG6laRJ7sggor8r7qtBs25FE6/oD0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=TvW0VdrLsPZ8qYnfguoBk2/rip/AsChMhH2BvW7HurBvqpNi3ehVM0QxwYwvNIVre Qk+WxSWpZMa/SPiBrI/n90hTQKLaLpxjo4msDrfGwZHRKSzaanZwQhLTSCqME0iWqH wjkcFaY3XL+sdk1u82BXnagskhw85rXB2fOuXl0Y= From: martinduke Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Add normative language for stateless reset (#2574) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ca2e55439f06_4fbf3ff870cd45bc57744b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinduke X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2019 04:30:16 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ca2e55439f06_4fbf3ff870cd45bc57744b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinduke commented on this pull request. Looks good, but I'd like two more normative statements about sending Stateless Reset in the first place. If I receive a packet for which I have no context, MUST I send a Stateless Reset or SHOULD I, assuming I might have sent the token? Furthermore, SHOULD I do some sort of rate control to avoid sending 1 SR per packet? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2574#pullrequestreview-221445300 ----==_mimepart_5ca2e55439f06_4fbf3ff870cd45bc57744b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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Looks good, but I'd like two more normative statements about sending Stateless Reset in the first place. If I receive a packet for which I have no context, MUST I send a Stateless Reset or SHOULD I, assuming I might have sent the token?

Furthermore, SHOULD I do some sort of rate control to avoid sending 1 SR per packet?

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@martinthomson I believe this targets #2496.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4115,6 +4130,25 @@ preferred_address (0x000d):
 ~~~
 {: #fig-preferred-address title="Preferred Address format"}
 
+version_aliases (0x000e):
+
+: A list of version numbers that the server accepts as an alias for the
+  currently used versions. This transport parameter is only sent by the server.
+  Every version alias contains a lifetime in seconds. The alias is only valid
+  for that lifetime, clients MUST NOT use it after expiry.
+
+~~~
+   struct {
+     uint32 VersionNumber;
+     varint Lifetime;

Right. I was hoping for some help from people more familiar with the TLS presentation language on how to write it. We're using varints for all the other transport parameters, but we successfully managed to never actually use presentation language.

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I think we can accommodate this in QUIC v1.

The change has zero impact on implementations not supporting CCM8. Cod= e can be left as-is.

Specification-wise the required change would be to alter the definitio= n of minimal payload size from 4 to pn_sample_size - aead_tag_size = + 4).

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the key benefit of being short is lost on short packets due to padding.

I disagree. It's only the very short packets that do not have the benefit. Longer packets do not require additional padding, and will benefit from the use of the shorter tag.

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With #2573, we have now a concrete description of the ve= rsion alias mechanism.

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Thanks for writing this up. Just a few tiny tweaks to recommend. > + +The spin bit is an OPTIONAL feature of QUIC. A QUIC stack that chooses to +support the spin bit MUST implement it as specified in this document. + +Each endpoint unilaterally decides if the spin bit is enabled or disabled for a +connection. Implementations MUST allow administrators of clients and servers +to disable the spin bit either globally or on a per-connection basis. Even when +the spin bit is not disabled by the administrator implementations MUST disable +the spin bit on a randomly chosen fraction of connections. The random selection +process SHOULD be designed such that on average the spin bit is disabled for at +least one eighth of network paths. The selection process should be externally +unpredictable but consistent for any given combination of source and destination +address and port. The selection process performed at the beginning of the +connection SHOULD be applied for all paths used by the connection. + +In case multiple connections share the same five-tuple, i.e. same source and ```suggestion In case multiple connections share the same five-tuple, that is, have the same source and ``` > +The spin bit is an OPTIONAL feature of QUIC. A QUIC stack that chooses to +support the spin bit MUST implement it as specified in this document. + +Each endpoint unilaterally decides if the spin bit is enabled or disabled for a +connection. Implementations MUST allow administrators of clients and servers +to disable the spin bit either globally or on a per-connection basis. Even when +the spin bit is not disabled by the administrator implementations MUST disable +the spin bit on a randomly chosen fraction of connections. The random selection +process SHOULD be designed such that on average the spin bit is disabled for at +least one eighth of network paths. The selection process should be externally +unpredictable but consistent for any given combination of source and destination +address and port. The selection process performed at the beginning of the +connection SHOULD be applied for all paths used by the connection. + +In case multiple connections share the same five-tuple, i.e. same source and +destination IP address and UDP port the setting of the spin bit needs to be ```suggestion destination IP address and UDP ports, the setting of the spin bit needs to be ``` > +the spin bit on a randomly chosen fraction of connections. The random selection +process SHOULD be designed such that on average the spin bit is disabled for at +least one eighth of network paths. The selection process should be externally +unpredictable but consistent for any given combination of source and destination +address and port. The selection process performed at the beginning of the +connection SHOULD be applied for all paths used by the connection. + +In case multiple connections share the same five-tuple, i.e. same source and +destination IP address and UDP port the setting of the spin bit needs to be +coordinated across all connections to ensure a clear signal to any on path +measurement point, however that might not be feasible. + +When the spin bit is disabled, endpoints MAY set the spin bit to any value, and +MUST accept any incoming value. It is RECOMMENDED that they set the spin bit to +a random value either chosen independently for each packet, or chosen +independently for each path and kept constant for that path. That creates a different signal. Besides, we already discussed this point and (I believe, chairs can correct me), that we agreed to allow this flexibility. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@mirjak commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +the spin bit on a randomly chosen fraction of connections. The random selection
+process SHOULD be designed such that on average the spin bit is disabled for at
+least one eighth of network paths. The selection process should be externally
+unpredictable but consistent for any given combination of source and destination
+address and port. The selection process performed at the beginning of the
+connection SHOULD be applied for all paths used by the connection.
+
+In case multiple connections share the same five-tuple, i.e. same source and
+destination IP address and UDP port the setting of the spin bit needs to be
+coordinated across all connections to ensure a clear signal to any on path
+measurement point, however that might not be feasible.
+
+When the spin bit is disabled, endpoints MAY set the spin bit to any value, and
+MUST accept any incoming value. It is RECOMMENDED that they set the spin bit to
+a random value either chosen independently for each packet, or chosen
+independently for each path and kept constant for that path.

Yes, we should allow for this flexibility. In fact there is no way to not allow for it. I'm just saying we should recommend per-connection random values as the preferred way to do it.

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OnPacketAcked() calls OnPacketAckedCC() (which decreases bytes_in_flight)
only when ack_eliciting is true, however OnPacketSentCC() (which increases
bytes_in_flight) is called when in_flight is true.

Additionally, OnPacketsLost() decreases bytes_in_flight for in-flight
lost packets (not just ack-eliciting ones).

So it seems to follow that OnPacketAcked() should call OnPacketAckedCC()
for all in-flight packets.

The whole ack-eliciting vs in-flight distinction is pretty confusing to me (the only difference seems to be that in-flight includes packets with just PADDING, which are not ack-eliciting, is that correct?) so I may be totally wrong here.

But bytes_in_flight is increased and decreased based on two different conditions (ack_eliciting vs in_flight) which seems like a bug in the pseudo-code.

However if this is the intended behaviour, it's be useful to have a clarification as to why it is like that (the text doesn't seem to mention this) or a pointer to a previous discussion about this.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2584

Commit Summary

  • Call OnPacketAckedCC() for in-flight packets, not just ack-eliciting

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I agree the difference between in-flight and ack-eliciting is small and potentially confusing. I'm open to editorial PRs to clarify it. The WG decided it was important that padding wasn't ack-eliciting, and making padding not congestion controlled is extremely scary, so we end up with a single frame that is congestion controlled but doesn't elicit an ACK. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2584#issuecomment-479025521 ----==_mimepart_5ca372dccbe98_4fa23fef16ad45b8411291 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thanks for the fix. I agree the difference between in-flight and ack-= eliciting is small and potentially confusing. I'm open to editorial PRs = to clarify it.

The WG decided it was important that padding wasn't ack-eliciting, and= making padding not congestion controlled is extremely scary, so we end u= p with a single frame that is congestion controlled but doesn't elicit an= ACK.

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I agree with @martinthomson on this. Without cross-origin TLS tickets, I don't think this is that valuable, and I don't see any need for v1 to dependent upon this, even if it's useful as an extension in v1.

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@nibanks In both cases, I believe the current algorithm of = limiting ack_delay to max_ack_delay makes perfect sense. In the case of = CPU load, RTT should show up in SRTT, RTTVar, or both.

In the second case, the text also advises including any expected timer= delay in your advertised max_ack_delay.

This issue is about what happens if the largest acked is an ACK-only p= acket(not ack-eliciting). In this case, we do ignore the RTT sample, and= I do think that could turn out to be problematic, particularly in very a= symmetric flows.

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Recovery epoch was undefined and congestion event makes more sense for QUIC.

Fixes #2566

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  • Replace recovery epoch with congestion event

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@ianswett my comments were in reference to @janaiyengar's last sentence:

Basically, I propose that we use the RTT sample if ack_delay <=
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Apparently the forward and back buttons on Github don't work quite how I hoped. In the process, I inadvertently merged this directly instead of sending it for review.

I believe the text was correct, but I'll ensure Jana verifies that today.

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Even if it is not ack-eliciting? Doing that could subject calculations to huge and unpredictable RTT spikes.

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Changes the recommended initial value of initial rtt from 100ms to 500ms, resulting in a 1 second initial handshake timeout, as recommended by RFC6298.

Fixes #2184

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2586

Commit Summary

  • First handshake timeout at 1 second

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Reopened #2184.

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No. I thought Jana's comment was even for ack-eliciting packets. It wasn't clear.

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Things that might need chaning from the above discussions: 1. Should we be explicit about decoder stream creation delay as suggested by @kazuho? I don't think there's anything preventing that right now though. 2. Regarding the "An endpoint MUST allow its peer to create both encoder and decoder streams", the HTTP draft currently says that "Both clients and servers SHOULD send a value of three or greater for the QUIC transport parameter initial_max_uni_streams" but it doesn't talk about `MAX_STREAMS`, so I guess this would be adding a new restriction. I seem to remember that was the consensus for the discussion in Tokyo, but I may be remembering wrong. Thoughts? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2529#issuecomment-479213967 ----==_mimepart_5ca3d5ced2af3_4f373f91b66d45c030372a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I clarified the "An endpoint MAY avoid creating its own encoder stream" = part to be more permissive (which was the intention from the beginning, it = was just worded wrong).

Things that might need chaning from the above discussions:

  1. Should we be explicit about decoder stream creation delay as suggested = by = @kazuho? I don't think there's anything preventing that right now thoug= h.
  2. Regarding the "An endpoint MUST allow its peer to create both encoder a= nd decoder streams", the HTTP draft currently says that "Both clients and s= ervers SHOULD send a value of three or greater for the QUIC transport param= eter initial_max_uni_streams" but it doesn't talk about MAX_STREAMS, so I guess this would be adding a new restriction. I seem to remembe= r that was the consensus for the discussion in Tokyo, but I may be remember= ing wrong. Thoughts?

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In retrospect, the "Design of the QUIC Transmission Machinery" section that says "PADDING frames cause packets to contribute toward bytes in flight without directly causing an acknowledgment to be sent" already explains that, I just need to pay more attention :)

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Thanks for fixing this. Because of the deadlock prevention, this is definitely a trick to get right. It'd be nice to use the "handshake complete" concept in recovery, but defining it may be more work than it's worth. > @@ -1078,6 +1078,19 @@ GetEarliestLossTime(): return time, space SetLossDetectionTimer(): + if (crypto packets are in flight Two suggestions: 1) If loss_time is non-zero, it will be earlier than the crypto retransmission timer, so it's important to check that first. 2) The check for ack-eliciting packets can be moved right in front of the PTO timer. > // Crypto retransmission timeout. RetransmitUnackedCryptoData() crypto_count++ + else if (endpoint is client without 1-RTT keys): + if (will send Initial packet): + SendOnePaddedPacket() + else: + SendOnePacket() + crypto_count++ + else if (loss_time != 0): Time threshold loss detection should still be before the crypto case. > // Crypto retransmission timeout. RetransmitUnackedCryptoData() crypto_count++ + else if (endpoint is client without 1-RTT keys): + if (will send Initial packet): I'd say "if (has Handshake keys): SendOneHandshakePacket() else SendOnePaddedInitialPacket()" -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2281#pullrequestreview-221761780 ----==_mimepart_5ca3da2ab0cf6_1d773fd409ed45b411043c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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Thanks for fixing this. Because of the deadlock prevention, this is definitely a trick to get right.

It'd be nice to use the "handshake complete" concept in recovery, but defining it may be more work than it's worth.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1078,6 +1078,19 @@ GetEarliestLossTime():
   return time, space
 
 SetLossDetectionTimer():
+  if (crypto packets are in flight

Two suggestions:

  1. If loss_time is non-zero, it will be earlier than the crypto retransmission timer, so it's important to check that first.

  2. The check for ack-eliciting packets can be moved right in front of the PTO timer.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>      // Crypto retransmission timeout.
     RetransmitUnackedCryptoData()
     crypto_count++
+  else if (endpoint is client without 1-RTT keys):
+    if (will send Initial packet):
+       SendOnePaddedPacket()
+     else:
+       SendOnePacket()
+    crypto_count++
+  else if (loss_time != 0):

Time threshold loss detection should still be before the crypto case.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>      // Crypto retransmission timeout.
     RetransmitUnackedCryptoData()
     crypto_count++
+  else if (endpoint is client without 1-RTT keys):
+    if (will send Initial packet):

I'd say
"if (has Handshake keys):
SendOneHandshakePacket()
else
SendOnePaddedInitialPacket()"

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LGTM, in that we should align with 6298. I'd still try and get this default down.

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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Apr 2 15:07:59 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7258C120347 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2019 15:07:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HSU2dstQnei4 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2019 15:07:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-12.smtp.github.com (out-12.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C0B8C120260 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2019 15:07:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2019 15:07:54 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554242875; bh=Qp1T/Xmnqhy200MQistZZ+MUOo0BdqbmtmqipotsswU=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=LFQ7w45XdK3V3/VbUjph6m2FqGnceYMLC0CjiA9gxJKtoZA2AJ/F1WpbszhVFonz1 NjAkxeYwTgsCO9pR797XW3eegbd3G649+y/kSltzYjR15ab2VmgUbuGVquyXzvXYcm wg4tPg+uYQ+rBHPzCaT/H96hwriU76WtCVqP4gqM= From: ianswett To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] 13b260: Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2019 22:07:58 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/ianswett-initial-rtt500 Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: 13b26072e446e99bf016cf40b9fcf3287d07de66 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/13b26072e446e99bf016cf40b9fcf3287d07de66 Author: ianswett Date: 2019-04-02 (Tue, 02 Apr 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Changes the recommended initial value of initial rtt from 100ms to 500ms, resulting in a 1 second initial handshake timeout, as recommended by RFC6298. Fixes #2184 Commit: 0c8e71450540fe470f91da61779793859126db14 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0c8e71450540fe470f91da61779793859126db14 Author: ianswett Date: 2019-04-02 (Tue, 02 Apr 2019) Changed paths: Log Message: ----------- Merge branch 'master' into ianswett-initial-rtt500 Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/20c962238a2b...0c8e71450540 From nobody Tue Apr 2 15:08:21 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABAF2120342 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2019 15:08:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ahqNQ_b8QA3W for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2019 15:08:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BBFD8120260 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2019 15:08:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2019 15:08:16 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554242896; bh=RSRboF9DcZtCrdah3qeXURVhYoO2yUJXkbFWm6+LCzA=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=eHxT9Scrck3KYw1l4O0boQmbJEIwJUxvfHgL3G42HqxDe7KKzFz/L3I2d6Rv23x1C arc3MOeC1fVp7wknsc4YhEgayAukPEf1n/39OzJy7P6thVkmvx4SQD21SU/4a7nzpg U5cRfUBoMLDbRy8lHd/LP69gxLVc8u2iV/NZY9z0= From: ianswett To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] d0ce36: First handshake timeout at 1 second (#2586) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2019 22:08:20 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: d0ce36b283694420be1430db6147eefdb9c809de https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d0ce36b283694420be1430db6147eefdb9c809de Author: ianswett Date: 2019-04-02 (Tue, 02 Apr 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- First handshake timeout at 1 second (#2586) * First handshake timeout at 1 second Changes the recommended initial value of initial rtt from 100ms to 500ms, resulting in a 1 second initial handshake timeout, as recommended by RFC6298. Fixes #2184 * Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md From nobody Tue Apr 2 15:08:31 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F4CB120260 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2019 15:08:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rRunVtI67xij for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2019 15:08:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BB71120354 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2019 15:08:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2019 15:08:21 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554242901; bh=2i/KBSy/WF8ENkKbAYbDIKYOd+82oXBQYRLsFurH+h4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=f366VNlVKvxZVK4kSiWpdZnix+2IulC6cI5oqT2N0g9hExQ61ylPPxKxjJjb36Aiq aLXV+PZcP4co/Nvz7+Mnh7XOXt+UiCPSQQzNREbL1jYC0nMhR6L9IpVuuoSFb8M/tA zSmZivytDlP4hlclSA49mKyXP//T/X13vaEFAqks= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First handshake timeout at 1 second (#2586) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ca3dd557c2ad_199b3fe4784d45bc111971"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2019 22:08:24 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ca3dd557c2ad_199b3fe4784d45bc111971 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Merged #2586 into master. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1319,7 +1319,7 @@ window.
 ~~~
    CongestionEvent(sent_time):
      // Start a new congestion event if the sent time is larger
-     // than the start time of the previous recovery epoch.
+     // than the start time of the previous congestion event.

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Yeah, it's confusing, but it's unfortunate terminology used in both loss recovery and in DTLS. It's best to use congestion event, as @ianswett is doing in #2585.

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Apologies for any confusion. @nibanks I was referring to non-ack-eliciting packets in that second half of my description, where I made that proposal.

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@Ralith commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1078,6 +1078,19 @@ GetEarliestLossTime():
   return time, space
 
 SetLossDetectionTimer():
+  if (crypto packets are in flight

Thanks, I was confused about the intended behavior here.

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----==_mimepart_5ca3fa7970445_491f3fa7a40d45b813576c-- From nobody Tue Apr 2 17:13:58 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 616F41203B8 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2019 17:13:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id I-d6VCmmtRxT for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2019 17:13:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F0781203AD for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2019 17:13:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2019 17:13:54 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554250434; bh=oYEVXmk+fvb9NbKLHOeCRIkgPXvqXRykk8CGcAnIUT0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=QXqU14ZR/Ye/UhCjbiMCi/sgDjrQWNw3JgJxOrTiFGRKNa4Ctdd2JaysOwkmxNLu/ 9dlZzQwZoTbL6DTcOT8fgi94TKtNPxz9GGXTMsjg/MIcqpUkLbPLbwa7jD1bOxdY3P orYkao32uSoK6MolVYrcbxvQIWMBBqrhBkKnlVvE= From: Benjamin Saunders Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Include handshake anti-deadlock logic in pseudocode (#2281) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ca3fac2b7b06_22f53fbfb06d45c0181853"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: Ralith X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2019 00:13:57 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ca3fac2b7b06_22f53fbfb06d45c0181853 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ralith commented on this pull request. > // Crypto retransmission timeout. RetransmitUnackedCryptoData() crypto_count++ + else if (endpoint is client without 1-RTT keys): + if (will send Initial packet): @martinthomson, is this consistent with your earlier suggestions? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2281#discussion_r271540975 ----==_mimepart_5ca3fac2b7b06_22f53fbfb06d45c0181853 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>      // Crypto retransmission timeout.
     RetransmitUnackedCryptoData()
     crypto_count++
+  else if (endpoint is client without 1-RTT keys):
+    if (will send Initial packet):

@martinthomson, is this consistent with your earlier suggestions?

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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Apr 2 19:49:54 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C85E8120453 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2019 19:49:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id f3Nbh6bE_q-t for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2019 19:49:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D595E12044D for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2019 19:49:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2019 19:49:49 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554259789; bh=O9h5heYqo/1PZQW/JKvZwGy+jvQptBco7LkdilEUC2E=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=SABsl+ToeVN3gE3AwXcDRYhFtbRiyqR9vqfh9AQ9mN4/MqeJN+36+Zg8SrjTvmp6h R1+PsSNXlH4A129aNol7lSzncRMfVDpT4N4Njjl+LNO+KIZG1lUV9j33nBm8kooOvF JhrTqpfTn7s2NGBaguZDgtrzb9eedX5EfD/wSU6M= From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Replace recovery epoch with congestion event (#2585) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ca41f4d98364_51ee3f9e23ad45c0109034"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2019 02:49:53 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ca41f4d98364_51ee3f9e23ad45c0109034 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable marten-seemann commented on this pull request.=0D =0D =0D =0D > @@ -1318,8 +1318,8 @@ window.=0D =0D ~~~=0D CongestionEvent(sent_time):=0D - // Start a new congestion event if the sent time is larger=0D - // than the start time of the previous recovery epoch.=0D + // Start a new congestion event if packet was sent after the=0D + // start of the previous congestion event.=0D =0D I understand what the start and the end of an epoch are, but what is the = start and end of a congestion event.=0D In my understanding, a congestion event is when a packet is acknowledged = or when a packet is declared lost, and there=E2=80=99s no start and end t= o it.=0D =0D -- =0D You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.=0D Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub:=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2585#pullrequestreview-2219853= 95= ----==_mimepart_5ca41f4d98364_51ee3f9e23ad45c0109034 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

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    CongestionEvent(sent_time):=0D
-     // Start a new congestion event if the sent time is larger=0D
-     // than the start time of the previous recovery epoch.=0D
+     // Start a new congestion event if packet was sent after the=0D
+     // start of the previous congestion event.=0D
=0D

I understand what the start and the end of an epoch are, but what is t= he start and end of a congestion event.
=0D In my understanding, a congestion event is when a packet is acknowledged = or when a packet is declared lost, and there=E2=80=99s no start and end t= o it.

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Events tend to be points in time, I agree.

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The draft describes that a client SHOULD NOT reuse a token in different connections (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-transport-19#section-8.1.2). However, I miss the argument that the server SHOULD NOT construct the same token multiple times.
This argument addresses the risks of client tracking via tokens if a deterministic approach is used to construct them.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1318,8 +1318,8 @@ window.
 
 ~~~
    CongestionEvent(sent_time):
-     // Start a new congestion event if the sent time is larger
-     // than the start time of the previous recovery epoch.
+     // Start a new congestion event if packet was sent after the
+     // start of the previous congestion event.

Good point. We don't use epoch anywhere else in this doc except this pseudocode, and it's different from the definition in security contexts, so I'd like to avoid the term.

Do you have any other suggestions? Congestion Period, etc? I'm not even that happy about using InRecovery here, since in TCP that has a distinct meaning that doesn't map 1:1 to QUIC.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1318,8 +1318,8 @@ window.
 
 ~~~
    CongestionEvent(sent_time):
-     // Start a new congestion event if the sent time is larger
-     // than the start time of the previous recovery epoch.
+     // Start a new congestion event if packet was sent after the
+     // start of the previous congestion event.

Maybe keep congestion event as the trigger. Isn't the period referred to as the recovery period, if entered.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1318,8 +1318,8 @@ window.
 
 ~~~
    CongestionEvent(sent_time):
-     // Start a new congestion event if the sent time is larger
-     // than the start time of the previous recovery epoch.
+     // Start a new congestion event if packet was sent after the
+     // start of the previous congestion event.

Well, seems like you just made a commit doing exactly that ...

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1318,8 +1318,8 @@ window.
 
 ~~~
    CongestionEvent(sent_time):
-     // Start a new congestion event if the sent time is larger
-     // than the start time of the previous recovery epoch.
+     // Start a new congestion event if packet was sent after the
+     // start of the previous congestion event.

PTAL at #2588

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1318,8 +1318,8 @@ window.
 
 ~~~
    CongestionEvent(sent_time):
-     // Start a new congestion event if the sent time is larger
-     // than the start time of the previous recovery epoch.
+     // Start a new congestion event if packet was sent after the
+     // start of the previous congestion event.

I did, we keep postposting.

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RetransmitUnackedCryptoData() crypto_count++ + else if (endpoint is client without 1-RTT keys): + if (will send Initial packet): No. The important factor is not whether you have handshake keys, but whether your peer believes your address to be validated. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2281#discussion_r271789456 ----==_mimepart_5ca4cbc137162_4cdd3ff9f90d45c02400f8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>      // Crypto retransmission timeout.
     RetransmitUnackedCryptoData()
     crypto_count++
+  else if (endpoint is client without 1-RTT keys):
+    if (will send Initial packet):

No. The important factor is not whether you have handshake keys, but whether your peer believes your address to be validated.

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----==_mimepart_5ca4cbc137162_4cdd3ff9f90d45c02400f8-- From nobody Wed Apr 3 08:28:25 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A649312010E for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2019 08:28:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.82 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.82 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.282, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HjvYfvGbPLxP for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2019 08:28:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A65BB1200DB for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2019 08:28:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2019 08:28:20 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554305300; bh=X7/q48aHjRTUtBJbRKZ2ZCGJF0ULqDHi05IvyxeTTLw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=2PiqRtWLWcI8TRSpVVzyKW8d9DbwVmizfflytn5rNqLSREHc6eqtJ1SMUswcy6tiS NArf4230T+9q88Ec4ghSH+Gf/GaJU5hS3onTmoEE8awFVON5vVndjy5biQT0/UEA4r lUVjuCf36PkS+1vv54OGQLltFwh30Hnk6HqDBv64= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Include handshake anti-deadlock logic in pseudocode (#2281) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ca4d114629f2_57e3fb3c52d45c0124565"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2019 15:28:24 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ca4d114629f2_57e3fb3c52d45c0124565 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ianswett commented on this pull request. > // Crypto retransmission timeout. RetransmitUnackedCryptoData() crypto_count++ + else if (endpoint is client without 1-RTT keys): + if (will send Initial packet): To be clear, my suggestion started at line 1133. The intent was to change "Will send Initial packet" to "has Handshake keys", which I believe is clearer. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2281#discussion_r271800450 ----==_mimepart_5ca4d114629f2_57e3fb3c52d45c0124565 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>      // Crypto retransmission timeout.
     RetransmitUnackedCryptoData()
     crypto_count++
+  else if (endpoint is client without 1-RTT keys):
+    if (will send Initial packet):

To be clear, my suggestion started at line 1133. The intent was to change "Will send Initial packet" to "has Handshake keys", which I believe is clearer.

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I've been doing more thinking, and here's where I've landed. (Thanks <= a class=3D"user-mention" data-hovercard-type=3D"user" data-hovercard-url=3D= "/hovercards?user_id=3D41567" data-octo-click=3D"hovercard-link-click" da= ta-octo-dimensions=3D"link_type:self" href=3D"https://github.com/kazuho">= @kazuho and @ianswett for conversations.)

The higher order principle is this: max_ack_delay suggests a contract = between this endpoint and its peer. The peer is supposed to send ACKs for= ack-eliciting frames within max_ack_delay amount of time. Effectively, t= he peer wants to wait for no more than max_ack_delay amount of t= ime, but if the actual received ack_delay is larger (due to ack loss or s= cheduler latency), the RTT should be increased to compensate for this add= itional delay beyond max_ack_delay, because it's not within the peer's co= ntrol and we might consider it part of "path" delay.

With this principle in place, I think it still makes sense to make the= first change I proposed: that an ACK should be used for RTT measurement = if any packet it newly acks is ack-eliciting. The RTT measurement is stil= l on the largest_acked (since ack-delay is reported for the largest_acked= ).

It is difficult to reason about ACKs that only ack non-ack-eliciting p= ackets, since the max_ack_delay contract does not hold. It is specificall= y difficult to reason about the reported ack_delays, since the peer can w= ait arbitrarily long and report arbitrarily long ack_delays. It's incorre= ct to add any additional delays (beyond max_ack_delay) into the RTT since= the increased delay was not due to uncontrollable circumstances. Simply = using the ack_delay, however large it may be, allows for the peer to simp= ly game the RTT. Using only the samples that have ack_delay < max_ack= _delay might introduce a bias. It gets complicated quickly.

So, I conclude that we should not use ACKs of non-ack-eliciting packet= s for RTT measurement. This is what we do right now, so that's good. I'll= add some text explaining why.

We should also recommend that an endpoint that is only sending non-ack= -eliciting packets should piggyback a PING frame along with an ACK roughl= y once an RTT so that its RTT estimate is reasonably current.

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We should also recommend that an endpoint that is only sending non-ack= -eliciting packets should piggyback a PING frame along with an ACK roughl= y once an RTT so that its RTT estimate is reasonably current.

The sounds like a complication - and extra timer check and keeping tra= ck of whether ACK eliciting packets were sent. Also, it could lead to a l= ot of unnecessary PONG traffic. Is it really that important to update RTT= that often, and if so, wouldn't it be better to revisit the idea of meas= uring RTT for non-ack eliciting packets dispite the potential downfalls?<= /p>

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Agreed with @ianswett. Irrespective of what we recommend here, not= e that a sender of ACKs cannot assume what the peer will do -- when the pee= r will send an ACK for ACKs, I mean -- so, it will end up having to send a = periodic PING anyways. Piggybacking a PING periodically (once an RTT, for e= xample) is useful for RTT measurement as well, since ACK of ACKs do not get= used for RTT (see #2568 for more discussion on this point).

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+1 to @janaiyengar 's last comment. I look forward to a PR.

In regards to the last paragraph, we already have some text in transport= about this, and I'm not sure how specific I want to be, given it's only re= ally important as a mechanism for the sender to drop state if they're waiti= ng for acks of acks.

"Because ACK frames are not sent in response to ACK-only packets, a
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= ----==_mimepart_5ca50e613a798_48a23fa698cd45b41949da-- From nobody Wed Apr 3 12:54:44 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6297C120673 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2019 12:54:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id O855N5aqyUcv for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2019 12:54:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 00A7A1200FF for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2019 12:54:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2019 12:54:40 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554321280; bh=UGKY8DUL0cmUYJN8sYSufVixkg7Qsqjtc/mtI/Uvw0c=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=eMB/sGM+VfHvkkWAbKyJT9vOyOpDFEcvwa9SBdCCz+CiQEAR6Kz15B9Alc6ewWHCf ib81lzHj3q6MuDFxpjx/YH9UoFSllFqTY8l+Ahf4wJnbYK9FIv79+nO4cLzu54t8xK 6QjBN3G21oOY7PYoh80n1/rp3IogOsjaDegMgoqA= From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Saving a round-trip time in the initial handshakes with retry (#2552) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ca50f806f062_56353fc734cd45c021676"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2019 19:54:43 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ca50f806f062_56353fc734cd45c021676 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree that this doesn't need to be on the v1 critical path. That said, as @kazuho mentioned on the list, there's a related issue where a shared token on future connections to the same IP (but different server name) allows a server to bootstrap this connection using path properties that might be stashed in the token. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2552#issuecomment-479635231 ----==_mimepart_5ca50f806f062_56353fc734cd45c021676 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I agree that this doesn't need to be on the v1 critical path. That sa= id, as @kazuho mentioned on the list, there's a related issue wher= e a shared token on future connections to the same IP (but different serv= er name) allows a server to bootstrap this connection using path properti= es that might be stashed in the token.

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@pravb: You're right, this needs to be made crisp and we need= to add pseudo-code to handle this. Do you have a strawman proposal? How = does Windows TCP do currently to handle growth during app limited periods= ?

The naive approach doesn't work, since it prevents growth in the secon= d RTT during slow start. I don't remember anymore what Linux TCP does, bu= t I can look into that.

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FWIW, my read of the Linux code tells me that at ack receipt time, the sender considers itself app-limited if in slow-start and cwnd > 2 x inflight, or if in cong-avoid and cwnd > inflight.

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Jana, your reading matches my memory, but I thought there was an extra "fq-pacing quantum" added to inflight in the second case?

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----==_mimepart_5ca519f514731_26003f9209ed45c41362ce-- From nobody Wed Apr 3 15:36:59 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 583CA120043 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2019 15:36:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0eUbD6vBaNfs for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2019 15:36:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-13.smtp.github.com (out-13.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47BA91200CC for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2019 15:36:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2019 15:36:54 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554331015; bh=3YrBZby7Gk+9YNsCfDQIJuwFLWWt9VO7qRdIHdtDTF4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=028Byh1w1vllFwWF71t+7LtPzVlNq1o7LZz90LQgKNanmwBt78E68OfBOtVWqVMir QKK7FIvjqr+XEokQ/xto31tMZNQBJMFLtpqI9Dj4NLLmzKjjvpAbDpa7QoJs9BlkzQ rrOKxRAYq1+gk5sFNwJ2qPn3uY0uetKp/R16LrgM= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Reduce restrictions on valid RTT samples (#2568) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ca53586c4c8a_5f8e3fc63d2d45b8534f2"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2019 22:36:58 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ca53586c4c8a_5f8e3fc63d2d45b8534f2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My +1 as well. I think it's reasonable to recommend endpoints to send PINGs, if it wants to calculate RTT when it is not sending data. First of all, this is _not_ a departure from the design we have in TCP; in TCP, an endpoint that is not sending data has no way of inferring RTT from ACKs. Second, requiring the peer to send ACKs for ACK-only packets promptly makes the specification complex. Because such a mechanism cannot be solely based on a timer (because ACK-of-ACK cannot be sent without piggybacking), even though it needs to be based on a timer (otherwise the endpoint cannot receive an ACK in a timely manner). Considering these two aspects, I think using PINGs is simpler. Also, endpoints can choose different strategies on how frequent they would send PING; some might send a PING every one second (or 1 RTT), or a download-only application might not send PINGs at all. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2568#issuecomment-479683624 ----==_mimepart_5ca53586c4c8a_5f8e3fc63d2d45b8534f2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

My +1 as well.

I think it's reasonable to recommend endpoints to send PINGs, if it wa= nts to calculate RTT when it is not sending data.

First of all, this is not a departure from the design we have= in TCP; in TCP, an endpoint that is not sending data has no way of infer= ring RTT from ACKs.

Second, requiring the peer to send ACKs for ACK-only packets promptly = makes the specification complex. Because such a mechanism cannot be solel= y based on a timer (because ACK-of-ACK cannot be sent without piggybackin= g), even though it needs to be based on a timer (otherwise the endpoint c= annot receive an ACK in a timely manner).

Considering these two aspects, I think using PINGs is simpler. Also, e= ndpoints can choose different strategies on how frequent they would send = PING; some might send a PING every one second (or 1 RTT), or a download-o= nly application might not send PINGs at all.

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If the transport parameter initial_max_stream_data_uni is not set, HTTP 3 will just stall. That's because the HTTP3 implementations are supposed to send the "Settings" before sending any request or response, but they can only do that if there are flow control credits for Uni streams. Of course, the HTTP3 spec says that "Both clients and servers SHOULD send a value of three or greater for the QUIC transport parameter initial_max_uni_streams." But it fails to mention that there should be some sensible value for initial_max_stream_data_uni.

The bug was found during interop testing between picoquic and ats. It really is a spec bug. Section 3.1 of the HTTP3 spec has text stating that "it is recommended that initial_max_bidi_streams be no smaller than 100, so as to not unnecessarily limit parallelism." I think that we need similar text in section 3.2.

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I agree that we should probably recommend sending a non-zero value, but the connection is not supposed to stall in either case. If a peer sends 0 in the transport parameters, it will have to grant flow control credit via MAX_*DATA frames.

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----==_mimepart_5ca5710d90493_398c3fbd922d45bc2383ac-- From nobody Wed Apr 3 19:58:42 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 551131203A3 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2019 19:58:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id i_nYozA69apk for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2019 19:58:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-12.smtp.github.com (out-12.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B283C12039E for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2019 19:58:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2019 19:58:37 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554346718; bh=z8fg89ZI1RfB/tJHVVoQTOX548Mx5PIoCGD1vBT89aQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=wRi2wxV9o51aVUQv+vawWlTevgsQ+WSEmOWQMsqbsz65Nu7dm/dVH1dBkUOezgLbF dMOXpdWPi9WKfjB8ERFH9+MSkAA1duJpp2Fnl4U+/IpZIjZXJgmSOJCBnhf1KUs3dJ cYN+EDt7ng4byzCQ9iGk91pl9pa7T+KPzauNK61k= From: Christian Huitema Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] H3 spec fails to warn about initial_max_stream_data_uni (#2589) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ca572ddd6bab_325c3f99c8ed45bc3870fd"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: huitema X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2019 02:58:40 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ca572ddd6bab_325c3f99c8ed45bc3870fd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @marten-seemann the problem is that if the number of credit is zero, the peer cannot even open the stream. It is not supposed to send a null length stream frame. And if the stream is not even open, the generic transport has no way to know that it should send a MAX_STREAM_DATA frame on stream 2 or 3. An H3 conscious transport might know that, but a generic one not so much -- you don't need credits on stream 2 or 3 for HTTP 1.x or for DNS over HTTP. It seems much preferable to just mandate non zero values in the transport parameters. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2589#issuecomment-479731160 ----==_mimepart_5ca572ddd6bab_325c3f99c8ed45bc3870fd Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@marten-seemann the problem is that if the number of = credit is zero, the peer cannot even open the stream. It is not supposed = to send a null length stream frame. And if the stream is not even open, t= he generic transport has no way to know that it should send a MAX_STREAM_= DATA frame on stream 2 or 3. An H3 conscious transport might know that, b= ut a generic one not so much -- you don't need credits on stream 2 or 3 f= or HTTP 1.x or for DNS over HTTP. It seems much preferable to just mandat= e non zero values in the transport parameters.

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@huitema Why can't you open the stream? There's nothing preventing you from opening a stream that you don't have flow control credit for.
You could send a zero-length STREAM frame, or even better, you could send a STREAM_BLOCKED frame.

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@marten-seemann I suppose you could send a zero length STREAM= frame, although I am pretty sure one of spec says that nodes should not se= nd zero-length stream frames because DOS attacks. STREAM_BLOCKED has a diff= erent meaning -- it does not actually open the stream. I suppose that STREA= M_DATA_BLOCKED would work. In any case, asking for a sensible initial limit= seems much simpler.

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= ----==_mimepart_5ca57763df2b2_41ba3ff47bcd45c466996b-- From nobody Wed Apr 3 20:24:51 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC7371203CD for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2019 20:24:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K7aOJyYY3z4B for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2019 20:24:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BC74D120222 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2019 20:24:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2019 20:24:46 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554348286; bh=uW+mmEcKv43JgZ+lS9EBkznvh4PEmYxcw7mhOgPahUk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=nT4Gvp/BxRtfsRo8kvoorMlBrPvWiMZKntbcHdBiQ6yRNaAwzY0k6RoVrq5/XA0jw F9/4kHdoKFQLjQkQZbtpUqCo35hise/9cwIDRAnpT/hEyu6IG5XBjIwK5Tl0gcHIJW sK6GzKfJlXvftVKV6MD+mv/H8PkPZZpgmsJKA8hQ= From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] H3 spec fails to warn about initial_max_stream_data_uni (#2589) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ca578fe7df7b_1a743fe8b8cd45c0581652"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2019 03:24:50 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ca578fe7df7b_1a743fe8b8cd45c0581652 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED is what I meant, sorry. Too many \*_BLOCKED frames. STREAM_BLOCKED doesn't even exist... I think this is a general issue with either picoquic or ats, and not H3 specific. No matter what the application protocol, a peer can send you 0-values for stream counts and for flow control limits, and the protocol should still work (although slower, since the MAX* frames need to be exchanged). There should never be a deadlock (unless the peer is refusing to grant credits, even at a later point in time). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2589#issuecomment-479735486 ----==_mimepart_5ca578fe7df7b_1a743fe8b8cd45c0581652 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED is what I meant, sorry. Too many *_BLOCKED frames.= STREAM_BLOCKED doesn't even exist...

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It is not a "dead" lock. If picoquic does not have credits, it will just wait. If the peer somehow wakes up and provide credit, transmission will resume. In my mind, the transmission of the various "BLOCKED" frames is just optional.

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The PR needs to address the following two as well (pointed out by @marten-seemann):

  • a PRIORITY frame on a request stream after other frames
  • a CANCEL_PUSH frame on non-control streams

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----==_mimepart_5ca5953c34cab_53c83ffdc18d45c4464097-- From nobody Wed Apr 3 22:32:53 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F26941203E9 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2019 22:32:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vhMud5L_zFsy for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2019 22:32:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-15.smtp.github.com (out-15.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 874E61203B0 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2019 22:32:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2019 22:32:47 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554355968; bh=cDO2vWpKO0FPFDU4h663wv+jMtkVkasjDFj8YOohowo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=R2Lw/9OhdrZ/j1xUMLj2z9xWMksszaeZh6xRQtPExSEWpRM25inK5BYMSRhph7oED qwQ7E6lxgh6KfJN9FdcCbScp1hndWZ6g3DQ78jn7yuX++WrXTtvuQs/VJKDjx/zjzk 4+N98ob0QQOKHqu7fc0ZuxHNcldxV1xydTIAhl58= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Construction of address validation token (#2587) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ca596ff955b8_25f63fb9178d45b879433"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2019 05:32:51 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ca596ff955b8_25f63fb9178d45b879433 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Maybe #2543? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2587#issuecomment-479756243 ----==_mimepart_5ca596ff955b8_25f63fb9178d45b879433 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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If I receive a packet for which I have no context, MUST I send a Stateless Reset or SHOULD I, assuming I might have sent the token?

It isn't the place of this specification to tell endpoints when a stateless reset is appropriate. Describing the consequences should suffice.

Furthermore, SHOULD I do some sort of rate control to avoid sending 1 SR per packet?

I thought we had that already. But I think that we intentionally removed it. I'm still looking for the PR that did that (tracking removed code is hard).

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2428,17 +2428,17 @@ This design relies on the peer always sending a connection ID in its packets so
 that the endpoint can use the connection ID from a packet to reset the
 connection.  An endpoint that uses this design MUST either use the same
 connection ID length for all connections or encode the length of the connection
-ID such that it can be recovered without state.  In addition, it cannot
-provide a zero-length connection ID.
+ID such that it can be recovered without state.  In addition, it cannot provide

I didn't want to repeat a requirement from elsewhere in that migration cannot be initiated if the connection ID is zero length.

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Furthermore, SHOULD I do some sort of rate control to avoid sending 1 SR= per packet?

I thought we had that already. But I think that we intentionally removed= it. I'm still looking for the PR that did that (tracking removed code is h= ard).

I was also wondering about the rate limit in SR - I too thought it was t= here.

But now, after thinking a bit, the rate limit was probably removed becau= se it is a DoS vector. It can force state to maintained where it is not wan= ted.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>      // Crypto retransmission timeout.
     RetransmitUnackedCryptoData()
     crypto_count++
+  else if (endpoint is client without 1-RTT keys):
+    if (will send Initial packet):

"Will send Initial packet" is correct.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>      // Crypto retransmission timeout.
     RetransmitUnackedCryptoData()
     crypto_count++
+  else if (endpoint is client without 1-RTT keys):
+    if (will send Initial packet):

@martinthomson Why? In particular, do you think it is more correct?

This is already in a conditional that indicate the 1RTT keys aren't present.

@Ralith please add a comment above this section as well, to explain why it's here, since it may not be obvious.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>      // Crypto retransmission timeout.
     RetransmitUnackedCryptoData()
     crypto_count++
+  else if (endpoint is client without 1-RTT keys):
+    if (will send Initial packet):

I think I understand @martinthomson's point -- you want to keep sending initial packets until you know that the server has received and processed a handshake packet, which is when the server considers the client validated. This would happen when the client receives an ACK in a Handshake packet (for a Handshake packet) or has the 1-RTT keys.

That said, I agree with @ianswett that "will send Initial packet" is an odd predicate. I think we can say (has 1-RTT keys or has received an ACK in a Handshake packet). I could be wrong, but I think this captures the condition we're looking for.

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A few comments > @@ -1438,6 +1438,31 @@ New transport parameters can be registered according to the rules in {{iana-transport-parameters}}. +## Cryptographic Message Buffering + +Implementations need to maintain a buffer of CRYPTO data received out of order. +Because there is no flow control of CRYPTO frames, an endpoint could +potentially force its peer to buffer an unbounded amount of data. + +Implementations MUST support buffering at least 4096 bytes of data received in +CRYPTO frames out of order. Endpoints MAY choose to allow more data to be +buffered during the handshake. A larger limit during the handshake could allow +for larger keys or credentials to be exchanged. An endpoint's buffer size does +not need to remain constant during the life of the connection. + +Being unable to buffer CRYPTO frames during the handshake leads to a connection ```suggestion Being unable to buffer CRYPTO frames during the handshake can lead to a connection ``` > +potentially force its peer to buffer an unbounded amount of data. + +Implementations MUST support buffering at least 4096 bytes of data received in +CRYPTO frames out of order. Endpoints MAY choose to allow more data to be +buffered during the handshake. A larger limit during the handshake could allow +for larger keys or credentials to be exchanged. An endpoint's buffer size does +not need to remain constant during the life of the connection. + +Being unable to buffer CRYPTO frames during the handshake leads to a connection +failure. If an endpoint's buffer is exceeded during the handshake, it can expand +its buffer temporarily to complete the handshake. If an endpoint cannot expand +its buffer, it MUST close the connection with a CRYPTO_BUFFER_EXCEEDED error +code. + +Once the handshake completes, if an endpoint is unable to buffer all data in a +CRYPTO frame, it MAY discard all subsequent CRYPTO frames, or it MAY close the This isn't clear to me. If the endpoint is unable to buffer data in a CRYPTO frame, why does it need to drop _subsequent_ CRYPTO frames? > +CRYPTO frames out of order. Endpoints MAY choose to allow more data to be +buffered during the handshake. A larger limit during the handshake could allow +for larger keys or credentials to be exchanged. An endpoint's buffer size does +not need to remain constant during the life of the connection. + +Being unable to buffer CRYPTO frames during the handshake leads to a connection +failure. If an endpoint's buffer is exceeded during the handshake, it can expand +its buffer temporarily to complete the handshake. If an endpoint cannot expand +its buffer, it MUST close the connection with a CRYPTO_BUFFER_EXCEEDED error +code. + +Once the handshake completes, if an endpoint is unable to buffer all data in a +CRYPTO frame, it MAY discard all subsequent CRYPTO frames, or it MAY close the +connection with an CRYPTO_BUFFER_EXCEEDED error code. If an endpoint chooses to +discard all subsequent CRYPTO frames, the packets containing these CRYPTO frames +MUST be acknowledged. The endpoint MUST ack frames that are dropped? I don't think I follow this. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2524#pullrequestreview-223058169 ----==_mimepart_5ca69f9d9589f_241b3fd0092d45c41211ae Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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+## Cryptographic Message Buffering=0D
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+Implementations need to maintain a buffer of CRYPTO data received out of=
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+Because there is no flow control of CRYPTO frames, an endpoint could=0D
+potentially force its peer to buffer an unbounded amount of data.=0D
+=0D
+Implementations MUST support buffering at least 4096 bytes of data recei=
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+for larger keys or credentials to be exchanged. An endpoint's buffer=
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+Being unable to buffer CRYPTO frames during the handshake leads to a con=
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+Being unable to buffer CRYPTO frames during the handshake can lead to a =
connection=0D
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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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> +potentially force its peer to buffer an u=
nbounded amount of data.=0D
+=0D
+Implementations MUST support buffering at least 4096 bytes of data recei=
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+CRYPTO frames out of order. Endpoints MAY choose to allow more data to b=
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+buffered during the handshake. A larger limit during the handshake could=
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+for larger keys or credentials to be exchanged. An endpoint's buffer=
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+Being unable to buffer CRYPTO frames during the handshake leads to a con=
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+Once the handshake completes, if an endpoint is unable to buffer all dat=
a in a=0D
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This isn't clear to me. If the endpoint is unable to buffer data in a = CRYPTO frame, why does it need to drop subsequent CRYPTO frames?=

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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> +CRYPTO frames out of order. Endpoints MAY=
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+buffered during the handshake. A larger limit during the handshake could=
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+for larger keys or credentials to be exchanged. An endpoint's buffer=
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+not need to remain constant during the life of the connection.=0D
+=0D
+Being unable to buffer CRYPTO frames during the handshake leads to a con=
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The endpoint MUST ack frames that are dropped? I don't think I follow = this.

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With the set of AEAD functions defined in {{QUIC-TLS}}, packets that are smaller than 21 bytes are never valid. An endpoint MAY send a stateless reset in response to a packet with a long -header. This would not be effective if the stateless reset token was not yet -available to a peer. In this QUIC version, packets with a long header are only -used during connection establishment. Because the stateless reset token is not -available until connection establishment is complete or near completion, -ignoring an unknown packet with a long header might be more effective. +header and MAY send a stateless reset that is formatted to appear as a packet +with a long header. Sending a stateless reset is not effective prior to the This is odd. Why do we allow stateless reset to be sent as a long header if the peer is only looking for it in short header packets? > @@ -2350,11 +2344,13 @@ valid QUIC packets. With the set of AEAD functions defined in {{QUIC-TLS}}, packets that are smaller than 21 bytes are never valid. An endpoint MAY send a stateless reset in response to a packet with a long -header. This would not be effective if the stateless reset token was not yet -available to a peer. In this QUIC version, packets with a long header are only -used during connection establishment. Because the stateless reset token is not -available until connection establishment is complete or near completion, -ignoring an unknown packet with a long header might be more effective. +header and MAY send a stateless reset that is formatted to appear as a packet +with a long header. Sending a stateless reset is not effective prior to the +stateless reset token being available to a peer. In this QUIC version, packets +with a long header are only used during connection establishment. 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This is odd. Why do we allow stateless reset to be sent as a long head= er if the peer is only looking for it in short header packets?

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 packets that are smaller than 21 bytes are never valid.=0D
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 An endpoint MAY send a stateless reset in response to a packet with a lo=
ng=0D
-header.  This would not be effective if the stateless reset token was no=
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+header and MAY send a stateless reset that is formatted to appear as a p=
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I really like "congestion recovery" ... it actually captures the period nicely!

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>      // Crypto retransmission timeout.
     RetransmitUnackedCryptoData()
     crypto_count++
+  else if (endpoint is client without 1-RTT keys):
+    if (will send Initial packet):

That sounds like the approach that I originally had here, which was argued against.

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@kazuho commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +potentially force its peer to buffer an unbounded amount of data.
+
+Implementations MUST support buffering at least 4096 bytes of data received in
+CRYPTO frames out of order. Endpoints MAY choose to allow more data to be
+buffered during the handshake. A larger limit during the handshake could allow
+for larger keys or credentials to be exchanged. An endpoint's buffer size does
+not need to remain constant during the life of the connection.
+
+Being unable to buffer CRYPTO frames during the handshake leads to a connection
+failure. If an endpoint's buffer is exceeded during the handshake, it can expand
+its buffer temporarily to complete the handshake. If an endpoint cannot expand
+its buffer, it MUST close the connection with a CRYPTO_BUFFER_EXCEEDED error
+code.
+
+Once the handshake completes, if an endpoint is unable to buffer all data in a
+CRYPTO frame, it MAY discard all subsequent CRYPTO frames, or it MAY close the

Because TLS handshake messages require a stream that guarantees in-order delivery. Once you discard some bytes, you cannot use subsequent data on the stream. Therefore, the only way to keep the connection open after discarding some bytes is to discard all the following bytes, while sending ACKs.

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RetransmitUnackedCryptoData() crypto_count++ + else if (endpoint is client without 1-RTT keys): + if (will send Initial packet): Martin didn't want to allow for ACK of handshake stopping the anti-amplification retransmissions, which I think is fine, though a bit overly strict. So all of this is within the "if (endpoint is client without 1-RTT keys)" conditional, which is our proxy for: Should we keep trying to prevent a deadlock? To be clear on what I'm suggesting: else if (endpoint is client without 1-RTT keys): // The client must continue sending packets until it's // sure the server has validated the path. if (has Handshake keys): SendOneHandshakePacket() else SendOnePaddedInitialPacket() -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>      // Crypto retransmission timeout.
     RetransmitUnackedCryptoData()
     crypto_count++
+  else if (endpoint is client without 1-RTT keys):
+    if (will send Initial packet):

Martin didn't want to allow for ACK of handshake stopping the anti-amplification retransmissions, which I think is fine, though a bit overly strict. So all of this is within the "if (endpoint is client without 1-RTT keys)" conditional, which is our proxy for: Should we keep trying to prevent a deadlock?

To be clear on what I'm suggesting:

else if (endpoint is client without 1-RTT keys):
// The client must continue sending packets until it's
// sure the server has validated the path.
if (has Handshake keys):
SendOneHandshakePacket()
else
SendOnePaddedInitialPacket()

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----==_mimepart_5ca6bf637b414_4b8e3fa969ed45c02724b7-- From nobody Thu Apr 4 21:05:41 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E49C120311 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2019 21:05:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7TQF91CvGw_M for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2019 21:05:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4EE43120021 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2019 21:05:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2019 21:05:36 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554437136; bh=O2IlnDmov8JOPpbWyexJ/P3NGXhro6sCLbUgAAGwzmE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=QZUTE8/+Z9RaReWq6iVpFh4t5jFR4Ylobn3OoUv/NcSp/Cu1Oh0bHmQcSIzQgyD+9 zXj046fvL92v3WnYstkGrrJ02bbz3H9X0PhKkYmlJDyedkScVNCYLdEd/boFluAbts wjsapc36+WNfF/w1h3n4Ic34HUpEIONcG2y+12wM= From: martinduke Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Add normative language for stateless reset (#2574) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ca6d410cf910_1bdd3fd3646d45bc164292"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinduke X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2019 04:05:40 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ca6d410cf910_1bdd3fd3646d45bc164292 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > It isn't the place of this specification to tell endpoints when a stateless reset is appropriate. Describing the consequences should suffice. This is a weird statement to make. It is absolutely the place of the spec to do that! If what you mean is that this is entirely optional, then I'm happy to make it a MAY. My concern is not so much what level of force the spec uses, just that the level of force is clear. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2574#issuecomment-480141483 ----==_mimepart_5ca6d410cf910_1bdd3fd3646d45bc164292 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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This is a weird statement to make. It is absolutely the place of the s= pec to do that! If what you mean is that this is entirely optional, then = I'm happy to make it a MAY. My concern is not so much what level of force= the spec uses, just that the level of force is clear.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +potentially force its peer to buffer an unbounded amount of data.
+
+Implementations MUST support buffering at least 4096 bytes of data received in
+CRYPTO frames out of order. Endpoints MAY choose to allow more data to be
+buffered during the handshake. A larger limit during the handshake could allow
+for larger keys or credentials to be exchanged. An endpoint's buffer size does
+not need to remain constant during the life of the connection.
+
+Being unable to buffer CRYPTO frames during the handshake leads to a connection
+failure. If an endpoint's buffer is exceeded during the handshake, it can expand
+its buffer temporarily to complete the handshake. If an endpoint cannot expand
+its buffer, it MUST close the connection with a CRYPTO_BUFFER_EXCEEDED error
+code.
+
+Once the handshake completes, if an endpoint is unable to buffer all data in a
+CRYPTO frame, it MAY discard all subsequent CRYPTO frames, or it MAY close the

Ah, ok, thanks @kazuho.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>      // Crypto retransmission timeout.
     RetransmitUnackedCryptoData()
     crypto_count++
+  else if (endpoint is client without 1-RTT keys):
+    if (will send Initial packet):

I see. Your proposal seems good to me. @martinthomson: can you clarify what you think is missing?

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Fixes the portion of #1964 not fixed in #2281

This could be added to #2281, but that PR already has a lot of comments.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2590

Commit Summary

  • Don't arm the handshake timer if there's no data

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Because the server could be blocked until more packets are received, the client -MUST start the crypto retransmission timer even if there is no unacknowledged -CRYPTO data. If the timer expires and the client has no CRYPTO data to -retransmit and does not have Handshake keys, it SHOULD send an Initial packet in -a UDP datagram of at least 1200 bytes. If the client has Handshake keys, it -SHOULD send a Handshake packet. +MUST start the crypto retransmission timer until it has 1RTT keys, even if there How would a lost CFIN be retransmitted? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2590#pullrequestreview-223284249 ----==_mimepart_5ca75c8fcb051_30313f9c672d45b8962ca Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -458,11 +458,11 @@ sent, then no alarm should be armed until data has been received from the
 client.
 
 Because the server could be blocked until more packets are received, the client
-MUST start the crypto retransmission timer even if there is no unacknowledged
-CRYPTO data.  If the timer expires and the client has no CRYPTO data to
-retransmit and does not have Handshake keys, it SHOULD send an Initial packet in
-a UDP datagram of at least 1200 bytes.  If the client has Handshake keys, it
-SHOULD send a Handshake packet.
+MUST start the crypto retransmission timer until it has 1RTT keys, even if there

How would a lost CFIN be retransmitted?

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My comments are a little broader than the issue, but it's all related. > @@ -1151,7 +1152,8 @@ OnLossDetectionTimeout(): DetectLostPackets(pn_space) // Retransmit crypto data if no packets were lost // and there are still crypto packets in flight. - else if (crypto packets are in flight): + else if (crypto packets are in flight && + crypto data to send): // Crypto retransmission timeout. RetransmitUnackedCryptoData() crypto_count++ else if (client && (no 1-RTT keys) send a 1200B packet or something to that effect > @@ -1114,7 +1114,8 @@ SetLossDetectionTimer(): loss_detection_timer.update(loss_time) return - if (crypto packets are in flight): + if (crypto packets are in flight && + crypto data to send): || (client && (no 1-RTT keys yet)) > @@ -458,11 +458,11 @@ sent, then no alarm should be armed until data has been received from the client. Because the server could be blocked until more packets are received, the client -MUST start the crypto retransmission timer even if there is no unacknowledged -CRYPTO data. If the timer expires and the client has no CRYPTO data to -retransmit and does not have Handshake keys, it SHOULD send an Initial packet in -a UDP datagram of at least 1200 bytes. If the client has Handshake keys, it -SHOULD send a Handshake packet. +MUST start the crypto retransmission timer until it has 1RTT keys, even if there MUST start the crypto retransmission timer upon timeout.... In line 448: ack-eliciting crypto packet? LIne 451: "if possible, and restart the crypto retransmission timer if there is unacknowledged data" > @@ -458,11 +458,11 @@ sent, then no alarm should be armed until data has been received from the client. Because the server could be blocked until more packets are received, the client -MUST start the crypto retransmission timer even if there is no unacknowledged -CRYPTO data. If the timer expires and the client has no CRYPTO data to -retransmit and does not have Handshake keys, it SHOULD send an Initial packet in -a UDP datagram of at least 1200 bytes. If the client has Handshake keys, it -SHOULD send a Handshake packet. +MUST start the crypto retransmission timer until it has 1RTT keys, even if there +is no unacknowledged CRYPTO data. If the timer expires and the client has no +CRYPTO data to retransmit and does not have Handshake keys, it SHOULD send an SHOULD -> MUST? If we don't do this, the connection could hang in a fairly common case. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2590#pullrequestreview-223296742 ----==_mimepart_5ca76535cc04d_57ce3fa2bc0d45b435865c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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My comments are a little broader than the issue, but it's all related.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1151,7 +1152,8 @@ OnLossDetectionTimeout():
     DetectLostPackets(pn_space)
   // Retransmit crypto data if no packets were lost
   // and there are still crypto packets in flight.
-  else if (crypto packets are in flight):
+  else if (crypto packets are in flight &&
+           crypto data to send):
     // Crypto retransmission timeout.
     RetransmitUnackedCryptoData()
     crypto_count++

else if (client && (no 1-RTT keys)
send a 1200B packet
or something to that effect

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1114,7 +1114,8 @@ SetLossDetectionTimer():
     loss_detection_timer.update(loss_time)
     return
 
-  if (crypto packets are in flight):
+  if (crypto packets are in flight &&
+      crypto data to send):

|| (client && (no 1-RTT keys yet))

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -458,11 +458,11 @@ sent, then no alarm should be armed until data has been received from the
 client.
 
 Because the server could be blocked until more packets are received, the client
-MUST start the crypto retransmission timer even if there is no unacknowledged
-CRYPTO data.  If the timer expires and the client has no CRYPTO data to
-retransmit and does not have Handshake keys, it SHOULD send an Initial packet in
-a UDP datagram of at least 1200 bytes.  If the client has Handshake keys, it
-SHOULD send a Handshake packet.
+MUST start the crypto retransmission timer until it has 1RTT keys, even if there

MUST start the crypto retransmission timer upon timeout....

In line 448: ack-eliciting crypto packet?

LIne 451: "if possible, and restart the crypto retransmission timer if there is unacknowledged data"

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -458,11 +458,11 @@ sent, then no alarm should be armed until data has been received from the
 client.
 
 Because the server could be blocked until more packets are received, the client
-MUST start the crypto retransmission timer even if there is no unacknowledged
-CRYPTO data.  If the timer expires and the client has no CRYPTO data to
-retransmit and does not have Handshake keys, it SHOULD send an Initial packet in
-a UDP datagram of at least 1200 bytes.  If the client has Handshake keys, it
-SHOULD send a Handshake packet.
+MUST start the crypto retransmission timer until it has 1RTT keys, even if there
+is no unacknowledged CRYPTO data.  If the timer expires and the client has no
+CRYPTO data to retransmit and does not have Handshake keys, it SHOULD send an

SHOULD -> MUST? If we don't do this, the connection could hang in a fairly common case.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -458,11 +458,11 @@ sent, then no alarm should be armed until data has been received from the
 client.
 
 Because the server could be blocked until more packets are received, the client
-MUST start the crypto retransmission timer even if there is no unacknowledged
-CRYPTO data.  If the timer expires and the client has no CRYPTO data to
-retransmit and does not have Handshake keys, it SHOULD send an Initial packet in
-a UDP datagram of at least 1200 bytes.  If the client has Handshake keys, it
-SHOULD send a Handshake packet.
+MUST start the crypto retransmission timer until it has 1RTT keys, even if there

There would be outstanding CRYPTO data, so it would restart the timer and then send.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -458,11 +458,11 @@ sent, then no alarm should be armed until data has been received from the
 client.
 
 Because the server could be blocked until more packets are received, the client
-MUST start the crypto retransmission timer even if there is no unacknowledged
-CRYPTO data.  If the timer expires and the client has no CRYPTO data to
-retransmit and does not have Handshake keys, it SHOULD send an Initial packet in
-a UDP datagram of at least 1200 bytes.  If the client has Handshake keys, it
-SHOULD send a Handshake packet.
+MUST start the crypto retransmission timer until it has 1RTT keys, even if there
+is no unacknowledged CRYPTO data.  If the timer expires and the client has no
+CRYPTO data to retransmit and does not have Handshake keys, it SHOULD send an

ah you beat me to it.

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Because the server could be blocked until more packets are received, the client -MUST start the crypto retransmission timer even if there is no unacknowledged -CRYPTO data. If the timer expires and the client has no CRYPTO data to -retransmit and does not have Handshake keys, it SHOULD send an Initial packet in -a UDP datagram of at least 1200 bytes. If the client has Handshake keys, it -SHOULD send a Handshake packet. +MUST start the crypto retransmission timer until it has 1RTT keys, even if there You're right, but it's kind of hard to understand. What about the following structure: "MUST start the crypto retransmission timer if there is outstanding CRYPTO data. It MUST also start the crypto retransmission timer until it has 1-RTT keys,..." -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -458,11 +458,11 @@ sent, then no alarm should be armed until data has been received from the
 client.
 
 Because the server could be blocked until more packets are received, the client
-MUST start the crypto retransmission timer even if there is no unacknowledged
-CRYPTO data.  If the timer expires and the client has no CRYPTO data to
-retransmit and does not have Handshake keys, it SHOULD send an Initial packet in
-a UDP datagram of at least 1200 bytes.  If the client has Handshake keys, it
-SHOULD send a Handshake packet.
+MUST start the crypto retransmission timer until it has 1RTT keys, even if there

You're right, but it's kind of hard to understand.
What about the following structure: "MUST start the crypto retransmission timer if there is outstanding CRYPTO data. It MUST also start the crypto retransmission timer until it has 1-RTT keys,..."

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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

Thanks, I think this is closer. I can also try to pull in all the changes from the other PR into this one if it makes this easier?

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -458,11 +458,11 @@ sent, then no alarm should be armed until data has been received from the
 client.
 
 Because the server could be blocked until more packets are received, the client
-MUST start the crypto retransmission timer even if there is no unacknowledged
-CRYPTO data.  If the timer expires and the client has no CRYPTO data to
-retransmit and does not have Handshake keys, it SHOULD send an Initial packet in
-a UDP datagram of at least 1200 bytes.  If the client has Handshake keys, it
-SHOULD send a Handshake packet.
+MUST start the crypto retransmission timer until it has 1RTT keys, even if there

It's not just timeout(ie: it needs to be set after an ACK is received), but I'll try to clarify.

line 448: The definition of crypto packet is that it has a CRYPTO frame in it, so it's always ack-eliciting.

Retransmitting the crypto data would naturally update the timer(see previous sentence) and there would be unacknowledged crypto data in that case, so I'm not sure your extra clause is clarifying or potentially confusing?

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1114,7 +1114,8 @@ SetLossDetectionTimer():
     loss_detection_timer.update(loss_time)
     return
 
-  if (crypto packets are in flight):
+  if (crypto packets are in flight &&
+      crypto data to send):

That's in the the other PR: #2281

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1151,7 +1152,8 @@ OnLossDetectionTimeout():
     DetectLostPackets(pn_space)
   // Retransmit crypto data if no packets were lost
   // and there are still crypto packets in flight.
-  else if (crypto packets are in flight):
+  else if (crypto packets are in flight &&
+           crypto data to send):
     // Crypto retransmission timeout.
     RetransmitUnackedCryptoData()
     crypto_count++

Also in the other PR.

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The initial crypto retransmission timeout SHOULD be set to twice the initial -RTT. +RTT. On each consecutive expiration of the crypto timer without receiving an +acknowledgement for a new packet, the sender SHOULD double the crypto +retransmission timeout and set a timer for this period. Not quite right. If we got some acknowledgments, we still need to restart the timer. And note the pseudocode comments below. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2590#pullrequestreview-223320317 ----==_mimepart_5ca76b8c335_621b3fab608d45b41305a7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -435,7 +435,9 @@ Data in CRYPTO frames is critical to QUIC transport and crypto negotiation, so a
 more aggressive timeout is used to retransmit it.
 
 The initial crypto retransmission timeout SHOULD be set to twice the initial
-RTT.
+RTT.  On each consecutive expiration of the crypto timer without receiving an
+acknowledgement for a new packet, the sender SHOULD double the crypto
+retransmission timeout and set a timer for this period.

Not quite right. If we got some acknowledgments, we still need to restart the timer. And note the pseudocode comments below.

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The initial crypto retransmission timeout SHOULD be set to twice the initial -RTT. +RTT. On each consecutive expiration of the crypto timer without receiving an +acknowledgement for a new packet, the sender SHOULD double the crypto +retransmission timeout and set a timer for this period. This was just a reorg. This text is about doubling the timer after expiry when no ACKs are received. I think the pseudocode comments are all addressed in the other PR. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2590#discussion_r272626054 ----==_mimepart_5ca76d2571e04_4993fed0bed45bc2022f8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -435,7 +435,9 @@ Data in CRYPTO frames is critical to QUIC transport and crypto negotiation, so a
 more aggressive timeout is used to retransmit it.
 
 The initial crypto retransmission timeout SHOULD be set to twice the initial
-RTT.
+RTT.  On each consecutive expiration of the crypto timer without receiving an
+acknowledgement for a new packet, the sender SHOULD double the crypto
+retransmission timeout and set a timer for this period.

This was just a reorg. This text is about doubling the timer after expiry when no ACKs are received.

I think the pseudocode comments are all addressed in the other PR.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -458,11 +458,11 @@ sent, then no alarm should be armed until data has been received from the
 client.
 
 Because the server could be blocked until more packets are received, the client
-MUST start the crypto retransmission timer even if there is no unacknowledged
-CRYPTO data.  If the timer expires and the client has no CRYPTO data to
-retransmit and does not have Handshake keys, it SHOULD send an Initial packet in
-a UDP datagram of at least 1200 bytes.  If the client has Handshake keys, it
-SHOULD send a Handshake packet.
+MUST start the crypto retransmission timer until it has 1RTT keys, even if there

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Alright, I'm down to two issues, one of which is entirely trivial. > @@ -458,17 +460,15 @@ sent, then no alarm should be armed until data has been received from the client. Because the server could be blocked until more packets are received, the client -MUST start the crypto retransmission timer even if there is no unacknowledged -CRYPTO data. If the timer expires and the client has no CRYPTO data to -retransmit and does not have Handshake keys, it SHOULD send an Initial packet in -a UDP datagram of at least 1200 bytes. If the client has Handshake keys, it -SHOULD send a Handshake packet. - -On each consecutive expiration of the crypto timer without receiving an -acknowledgement for a new packet, the sender SHOULD double the crypto -retransmission timeout and set a timer for this period. +MUST ensure the crypto retransmission timer is set if there is unacknowledged +crypto data and MUST ensure the timer is set until it has 1RTT keys. double space > @@ -435,7 +435,9 @@ Data in CRYPTO frames is critical to QUIC transport and crypto negotiation, so a more aggressive timeout is used to retransmit it. The initial crypto retransmission timeout SHOULD be set to twice the initial -RTT. +RTT. On each consecutive expiration of the crypto timer without receiving an +acknowledgement for a new packet, the sender SHOULD double the crypto +retransmission timeout and set a timer for this period. Ah, OK. Line 448 probably should read "When an acknowledgment is received, a new RTT is computed. 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@martinduke approved this pull request.

Alright, I'm down to two issues, one of which is entirely trivial.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -458,17 +460,15 @@ sent, then no alarm should be armed until data has been received from the
 client.
 
 Because the server could be blocked until more packets are received, the client
-MUST start the crypto retransmission timer even if there is no unacknowledged
-CRYPTO data.  If the timer expires and the client has no CRYPTO data to
-retransmit and does not have Handshake keys, it SHOULD send an Initial packet in
-a UDP datagram of at least 1200 bytes.  If the client has Handshake keys, it
-SHOULD send a Handshake packet.
-
-On each consecutive expiration of the crypto timer without receiving an
-acknowledgement for a new packet, the sender SHOULD double the crypto
-retransmission timeout and set a timer for this period.
+MUST ensure the crypto retransmission timer is set if there is unacknowledged
+crypto data and MUST ensure  the timer is set until it has 1RTT keys.

double space

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -435,7 +435,9 @@ Data in CRYPTO frames is critical to QUIC transport and crypto negotiation, so a
 more aggressive timeout is used to retransmit it.
 
 The initial crypto retransmission timeout SHOULD be set to twice the initial
-RTT.
+RTT.  On each consecutive expiration of the crypto timer without receiving an
+acknowledgement for a new packet, the sender SHOULD double the crypto
+retransmission timeout and set a timer for this period.

Ah, OK. Line 448 probably should read "When an acknowledgment is received, a new RTT is computed. The endpoint MUST restart the timer and SHOULD set it for twice the newly computed smoothed RTT."

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----==_mimepart_5ca7f78a831eb_19733fc4224d45c41146f5-- From nobody Fri Apr 5 18:20:59 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E7E612011C for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2019 18:20:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lgezCE3JjVIf for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2019 18:20:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A58FF1200FB for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2019 18:20:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2019 18:20:55 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554513655; bh=T1cYPTRZHmArp60u2VJUoZHKWKMsRyg087+MXuAEt7o=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=SD71RorG1X7VgsLHMruj/URpldwQelhoTo+1Ly8AsNrBxTDjNGuNQaj0xFKyr9psM wq+vz5hWhM0VQuCAPXl5Eqws3+kTOWGGK8wN67TZ9bSzxnxU1ZTu0zU6iO+I8O+ZmV b+oOr75DD1GVepaLpbVBXCRyCUhHSKlLfCEWCvno= From: Praveen Balasubramanian Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Congestion control during application limited state (#2554) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ca7fef790c1a_6cd23f928f0d45c4725cf"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: pravb X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2019 01:20:59 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ca7fef790c1a_6cd23f928f0d45c4725cf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So there is no standard mechanism defined for this in any of the TCP RFCs especially the ones describing modern congestion control like CUBIC and DCTCP. Instead of providing a particular algorithm I propose we leave the handling of this to the implementations? Maybe we can refer implementers to https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7661.txt for possible ideas. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2554#issuecomment-480462616 ----==_mimepart_5ca7fef790c1a_6cd23f928f0d45c4725cf Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

So there is no standard mechanism defined for this in any of the TCP R= FCs especially the ones describing modern congestion control like CUBIC a= nd DCTCP. Instead of providing a particular algorithm I propose we leave = the handling of this to the implementations? Maybe we can refer implement= ers to https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7661.txt for possible ideas.<= /p>

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Well the problem with those fixed constants is that they don't work in= DC for example. This has been a big pain point with TCP where we apply d= ifferent minrto configs for DC and Internet. I actually liked the current= QUIC definition of persistent congestion because it was dependent on act= ual path RTT than on some fixed value. @janaiyengar the va= lue is not 3PTO because there is exponential doubling? Even if max_ac= k_Delay is advertised as 0 by receiver then QUIC is effectively declaring= persistent congestion after Srtt + 2Srtt + 4*Srtt? So 5 * Srtt and = that seems long enough?

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Thanks .. I missed it as it was labelled closed. We have designed and = experimented in our Samsung Lab and find the solution promising from the = legacy. Will share the draft and all the results shortly.
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@ianswett pacing or limiting burst is the right idea. TCP = RFC limits the burst to IW but it says do that after an idle period of an= RTO. Presumably the authors and community considered that period to be s= mall enough that network capacity / conditions hadn't changed drastically= .

Implementation wise how would we do this without a timer? If not pacin= g, when would one decide to cut cwnd back to restart cwnd (say IW)?

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>      // Crypto retransmission timeout.
     RetransmitUnackedCryptoData()
     crypto_count++
+  else if (endpoint is client without 1-RTT keys):
+    if (will send Initial packet):

Striking out the bit that we've agreed to remove, the text from the transport draft is:

Clients MUST ensure that UDP datagrams containing Initial packets are sized to at least 1200 bytes, adding padding to packets in the datagram as necessary. Once a client has received an acknowledgment for a Handshake packet it MAY send smaller datagrams. Sending padded datagrams ensures that the server is not overly constrained by the amplification restriction.

This contradicts that text. It's true that a server that received a Handshake packet is no longer subject to the anti-DoS limit on bytes transmitted, but it's a bit weird that we have an algorithm that directly contradicts a MUST-level requirement in the other document.

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=C2=A710.4.1

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An endpoint detects a potential stateless reset when a incoming packet= with a short header either cannot be associated with a connection, canno= t be decrypted, or is marked as a duplicate packet. The endpoint then com= pares the last 16 bytes of the packet with the Stateless Reset Token prov= ided by its peer

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There is no single token that a packet which cannot be associated with= a connection can be compared against, and although =C2=A710.4 could be r= ead as a suggestion that decryption should be attempted first, this is im= possible if the associated connection is unknown. Connections with non-ze= ro-length IDs cannot be identified by remote address, as multiple connect= ions may share the same remote address.

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The obvious approach here is to maintain a look-up table mapping state= less reset tokens to connections, and consult it on receipt of a packet t= hat cannot be associated with a connection, perhaps after first ensuring = that the packet originates from a known remote address. Should this be ma= de explicit?

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Adding text to 10.4.1 to describe the use of a table is reasonable.

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With this principle in place, I think it still makes sense to make the= first change I proposed: that an ACK should be used for RTT measurement = if any packet it newly acks is ack-eliciting. The RTT measurement is stil= l on the largest_acked (since ack-delay is reported for the largest_acked= ).

The problem with this change is that it requires a sender to keep stat= e for non-ack-eliciting. Currently, in my implementation, I only save a s= ent packet (including its metadata like the time sent and the packet size= ) if that packet is ack-eliciting.

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I started with trying to introduce rationale for why only ack-eliciting packets are used for RTT computation, and ended up restructuring the section. 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I started with trying to introduce rationale for why only ack-eliciting packets are used for RTT computation, and ended up restructuring the section.

Closes #2567, #2568.

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[ci skip] From nobody Sun Apr 7 22:59:09 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D86A1203AB for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2019 22:59:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gm_sTicR4y2u for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2019 22:59:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D08FB1203A8 for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2019 22:59:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2019 22:59:03 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554703143; bh=xVDfbRyJNkPg8NZ+dhN9AuXDCCWUi550tdTjt+J2CJE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=CPSD+S8RsOrLG3n8RS2bv22mp13I1kvLRRMB/q1WlwhWNKpSWDhvX0EgQ5QS6QNsb vSZ0QkCa1cdKB8e3FXw5ljBZQ9C9idV2ucfhBxqjDrFC3juOBMb1qlXknF5IOj4sUu PwrXRepigbxj2/7dKugMdOz2CAObrQRENwyIX1ZA= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rewrite of RTT estimation section (#2592) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5caae3278d5f0_1cb83fa1c90d45bc710ef"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2019 05:59:07 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5caae3278d5f0_1cb83fa1c90d45bc710ef Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson commented on this pull request. > -QUIC ACKs explicitly encode the delay incurred at the receiver between when a -packet is received and when the corresponding ACK is sent. This allows the -receiver of the ACK to adjust for receiver delays, specifically the delayed ack -timer, when estimating the path RTT. This mechanism also allows a receiver to -measure and report the delay from when a packet was received by the OS kernel, -which is useful in receivers which may incur delays such as context-switch -latency before a userspace QUIC receiver processes a received packet. +An endpoint measures the delay incurred between when a packet is received and +when the corresponding ACK is sent. The endpoint encodes this host delay for +the largest acknowledged packet in the Ack Delay field of an ACK frame (see +Section 19.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}). This allows the receiver of the ACK to +adjust for any host delays - importantly, for delayed acknowledgements - when +estimating the path RTT. Where possible, this delay can include the time that a "this delay" meaning which? Delays introduced by the host that we want to include in the RTT, or delays introduced by the host that we **don't** want to include? > -samples are generated within an RTT, the smoothed RTT and RTT variance could -retain inadequate history, as suggested in {{?RFC6298}}. Changing these -computations is currently an open research question. - -min_rtt is the minimum RTT measured over the connection, prior to adjusting by -ack delay. Ignoring ack delay for min RTT prevents intentional or unintentional -underestimation of min RTT, which in turn prevents underestimating smoothed RTT. - -A sender calculates both smoothed RTT (SRTT) and RTT variance (RTTVAR) similar -to those specified in {{?RFC6298}}. Note that computing smoothed_rtt does not -use ack_delay for the first RTT sample, because doing so would result in a -smoothed_rtt that is smaller than the min_rtt. - -On every newly acknowledged ack-eliciting largest acked: + +# Computing the round-trip time (RTT) estimate {#compute-rtt} Use Title Case. And drop the acronym from the title. ```suggestion # Estimating the Round-Trip Time {#compute-rtt} ``` > @@ -226,24 +226,25 @@ QUIC supports many ACK ranges, opposed to TCP's 3 SACK ranges. In high loss environments, this speeds recovery, reduces spurious retransmits, and ensures forward progress without relying on timeouts. -### Explicit Correction For Delayed ACKs +### Explicit Correction For Delayed ACKs {#ack-delay} Use words. ACKs are delayed in the network, because they are frames. Acknowledgments are the things that you put in the frame (and the things where we need to compensate for delays). ```suggestion ### Explicit Correction For Delayed Acknowledgements {#ack-delay} ``` > -QUIC ACKs explicitly encode the delay incurred at the receiver between when a -packet is received and when the corresponding ACK is sent. This allows the -receiver of the ACK to adjust for receiver delays, specifically the delayed ack -timer, when estimating the path RTT. This mechanism also allows a receiver to -measure and report the delay from when a packet was received by the OS kernel, -which is useful in receivers which may incur delays such as context-switch -latency before a userspace QUIC receiver processes a received packet. +An endpoint measures the delay incurred between when a packet is received and +when the corresponding ACK is sent. The endpoint encodes this host delay for ```suggestion when the corresponding acknowledgment is sent. The endpoint encodes this host delay for ``` > +An endpoint MUST NOT excessively delay acknowledgements of ack-eliciting I think that the most important thing here is the contract that `max_ack_delay` implies: An endpoints promises to never delay acknowledgments of an ack-eliciting packet by more than the indicated value. If they do, any excess accrues to the RTT estimate and could result in timeouts. > ~~~ latest_rtt = ack_time - send_time_of_largest_acked ~~~ -First RTT sample: +An endpoint uses only locally observed times in generating RTT samples and does +not correct for any host delays reported by the peer ({{ack-delay}}). + +An RTT sample MUST NOT be generated for a packet that is not newly acknowledged. Do we generate samples for packets? ```suggestion An ACK frame that does not newly acknowledge any packets MUST NOT be used to update RTT estimates. ``` > ~~~ latest_rtt = ack_time - send_time_of_largest_acked ~~~ -First RTT sample: +An endpoint uses only locally observed times in generating RTT samples and does +not correct for any host delays reported by the peer ({{ack-delay}}). + +An RTT sample MUST NOT be generated for a packet that is not newly acknowledged. +This avoids multiple RTT samples for the same packet. + +An RTT sample MUST NOT be generated for a packet that is not the largest +acknowledged in the received ACK frame. A peer reports host delays for only the I don't think that you need a "MUST NOT" here. Your definition of the sample covers this. > +This avoids multiple RTT samples for the same packet. + +An RTT sample MUST NOT be generated for a packet that is not the largest +acknowledged in the received ACK frame. A peer reports host delays for only the +largest acknowledged packet in an ACK frame, which is assumed by subsequent +computations of smoothed_rtt and rttvar in correcting for host delays. + +An RTT sample MUST NOT be generated if the ACK frame does not newly acknowledge +an ack-eliciting packet. A peer does not send an ACK frame in response to +receiving only non-ack-eliciting packets, and an ACK frame that is subsequently +sent can include an arbitrarily large Ack Delay field. Ignoring such ACK frames +avoids complications in subsequent smoothed_rtt and rttvar computations. + +A sender might generate multiple RTT samples per RTT when multiple ACK frames +are received within an RTT. As suggested in {{?RFC6298}}, doing so might result +in inadequate history in smoothed_rtt and rttvar. This is an open question The "This" here is not very clear. "Ensuring that RTT estimates retain sufficient history is an open research question." > +lesser of min_rtt and latest_rtt on subsequent samples. + +An endpoint uses only locally observed times in computing the min_rtt and does +not correct for host delays reported by the peer ({{ack-delay}}). Doing so +allows the endpoint to set a lower bound for the smoothed_rtt based entirely on +what it observes (see {{smoothed-rtt}}), and limits potential underestimation +due to erroneously-reported delays by the peer. + +## Computing smoothed_rtt and rttvar {#smoothed-rtt} + +smoothed_rtt is an exponentially-weighted moving average of an endpoint's +RTT samples, and rttvar is the endpoint's estimated variance in +the RTT samples. + +smoothed_rtt estimates path latency by correcting RTT samples for peer-reported +host delays ({{ack-delay}}). A peer indicates that the peer's delay in sending Check grammar. "A peer indicates that the peer's delay" might be correct, but it's hard to read. > +the RTT samples. + +smoothed_rtt estimates path latency by correcting RTT samples for peer-reported +host delays ({{ack-delay}}). A peer indicates that the peer's delay in sending +an acknowledgement for an ack-eliciting packet will be no greater than the +max_ack_delay transport parameter. Consequently, when a peer reports an Ack +Delay that is greater than max_ack_delay, the delay is attributed to reasons out +of the peer's control, such as scheduler latency at the peer or loss of previous +ACK frames. Any delays beyond the peer's max_ack_delay are therefore considered +effectively part of path delay and incorporated into the smoothed_rtt estimate. + +When correcting an RTT sample using peer-reported acknowledgement delays, an +endpoint: + +- SHOULD use the lesser of the value reported in Ack Delay field of the ACK + frame and the peer's max_ack_delay transport parameter ({{ack-delay}}). Why SHOULD? Why use 2119 language here at all? > When correcting an RTT sample, endpoints first limit the reported Ack Delay to the value of the max_ack_delay transport parameter. The RTT sample is then reduced by the resulting delay value. If correcting for host delays would result in a sample that is less than min_rtt, the unmodified sample is used. This guards against underestimation of RTT as a result of inflated reporting of host delays. > +effectively part of path delay and incorporated into the smoothed_rtt estimate. + +When correcting an RTT sample using peer-reported acknowledgement delays, an +endpoint: + +- SHOULD use the lesser of the value reported in Ack Delay field of the ACK + frame and the peer's max_ack_delay transport parameter ({{ack-delay}}). + +- MUST not apply the correction if the resulting RTT sample is smaller than the + min_rtt. This limits the underestimation that a misreporting peer can cause + to the smoothed_rtt. + +On the first RTT sample in a connection, the smoothed_rtt is set to the +latest_rtt. The peer-reported host delay MUST NOT be used on the first sample, +since correcting for it would result in a smoothed_rtt that is smaller than the +min_rtt. This assertion isn't necessary. Yes, the one sample you have for min_rtt is equal to latest_rtt, so of course any host delay will not be applied. So this just duplicates the earlier requirement. If anything, just note that there is no point in applying host delay corrections as they are never applied. > ~~~ -min_rtt = min(min_rtt, latest_rtt) -ack_delay = min(ack_delay, max_ack_delay) -if (ack_delay + min_rtt < latest_rtt): +ack_delay = min(Ack Delay in ACK Frame, max_ack_delay) +if (min_rtt + ack_delay < latest_rtt): latest_rtt = latest_rtt - ack_delay I think that you should use a different name for this result. 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@martinthomson commented on this pull request.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

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>  =0D
-QUIC ACKs explicitly encode the delay incurred at the receiver between w=
hen a=0D
-packet is received and when the corresponding ACK is sent.  This allows =
the=0D
-receiver of the ACK to adjust for receiver delays, specifically the dela=
yed ack=0D
-timer, when estimating the path RTT.  This mechanism also allows a recei=
ver to=0D
-measure and report the delay from when a packet was received by the OS k=
ernel,=0D
-which is useful in receivers which may incur delays such as context-swit=
ch=0D
-latency before a userspace QUIC receiver processes a received packet.=0D=

+An endpoint measures the delay incurred between when a packet is receive=
d and=0D
+when the corresponding ACK is sent.  The endpoint encodes this host dela=
y for=0D
+the largest acknowledged packet in the Ack Delay field of an ACK frame (=
see=0D
+Section 19.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}).  This allows the receiver of the AC=
K to=0D
+adjust for any host delays - importantly, for delayed acknowledgements -=
 when=0D
+estimating the path RTT.  Where possible, this delay can include the tim=
e that a=0D
=0D

"this delay" meaning which? Delays introduced by the host that we wan= t to include in the RTT, or delays introduced by the host that we don't want to include?

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=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

=0D 
> -samples are generated within an RTT, the =
smoothed RTT and RTT variance could=0D
-retain inadequate history, as suggested in {{?RFC6298}}. Changing these=0D=

-computations is currently an open research question.=0D
-=0D
-min_rtt is the minimum RTT measured over the connection, prior to adjust=
ing by=0D
-ack delay.  Ignoring ack delay for min RTT prevents intentional or unint=
entional=0D
-underestimation of min RTT, which in turn prevents underestimating smoot=
hed RTT.=0D
-=0D
-A sender calculates both smoothed RTT (SRTT) and RTT variance (RTTVAR) s=
imilar=0D
-to those specified in {{?RFC6298}}.  Note that computing smoothed_rtt do=
es not=0D
-use ack_delay for the first RTT sample, because doing so would result in=
 a=0D
-smoothed_rtt that is smaller than the min_rtt.=0D
-=0D
-On every newly acknowledged ack-eliciting largest acked:=0D
+=0D
+# Computing the round-trip time (RTT) estimate {#compute-rtt}=0D
=0D

Use Title Case. And drop the acronym from the title.

=0D =E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D 
-# Computing the round-trip time (RTT) estimat=
e {#compute-rtt}=0D
+# Estimating the Round-Trip Time {#compute-rtt}=0D
=0D =0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

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> @@ -226,24 +226,25 @@ QUIC supports many A=
CK ranges, opposed to TCP's 3 SACK ranges.  In high loss=0D
 environments, this speeds recovery, reduces spurious retransmits, and en=
sures=0D
 forward progress without relying on timeouts.=0D
 =0D
-### Explicit Correction For Delayed ACKs=0D
+### Explicit Correction For Delayed ACKs {#ack-delay}=0D
=0D

Use words. ACKs are delayed in the network, because they are frames. = Acknowledgments are the things that you put in the frame (and the things= where we need to compensate for delays).

=0D =E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D 
-### Explicit Correction For Delayed ACKs {#ac=
k-delay}=0D
+### Explicit Correction For Delayed Acknowledgements {#ack-delay}=0D
=0D =0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

=0D 
>  =0D
-QUIC ACKs explicitly encode the delay incurred at the receiver between w=
hen a=0D
-packet is received and when the corresponding ACK is sent.  This allows =
the=0D
-receiver of the ACK to adjust for receiver delays, specifically the dela=
yed ack=0D
-timer, when estimating the path RTT.  This mechanism also allows a recei=
ver to=0D
-measure and report the delay from when a packet was received by the OS k=
ernel,=0D
-which is useful in receivers which may incur delays such as context-swit=
ch=0D
-latency before a userspace QUIC receiver processes a received packet.=0D=

+An endpoint measures the delay incurred between when a packet is receive=
d and=0D
+when the corresponding ACK is sent.  The endpoint encodes this host dela=
y for=0D
=0D =E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D 
-when the corresponding ACK is sent.  The endp=
oint encodes this host delay for=0D
+when the corresponding acknowledgment is sent.  The endpoint encodes thi=
s host delay for=0D
=0D =0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

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>  =0D
+An endpoint MUST NOT excessively delay acknowledgements of ack-eliciting=
=0D
=0D

I think that the most important thing here is the contract that = max_ack_delay implies: An endpoints promises to never delay acknow= ledgments of an ack-eliciting packet by more than the indicated value. I= f they do, any excess accrues to the RTT estimate and could result in tim= eouts.

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=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

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>  ~~~=0D
 latest_rtt =3D ack_time - send_time_of_largest_acked=0D
 ~~~=0D
 =0D
-First RTT sample:=0D
+An endpoint uses only locally observed times in generating RTT samples a=
nd does=0D
+not correct for any host delays reported by the peer ({{ack-delay}}).=0D=

+=0D
+An RTT sample MUST NOT be generated for a packet that is not newly ackno=
wledged.=0D
=0D

Do we generate samples for packets?

=0D =E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D 
-An RTT sample MUST NOT be generated for a pac=
ket that is not newly acknowledged.=0D
+An ACK frame that does not newly acknowledge any packets MUST NOT be use=
d to update RTT estimates.=0D
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=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

=0D 
>  ~~~=0D
 latest_rtt =3D ack_time - send_time_of_largest_acked=0D
 ~~~=0D
 =0D
-First RTT sample:=0D
+An endpoint uses only locally observed times in generating RTT samples a=
nd does=0D
+not correct for any host delays reported by the peer ({{ack-delay}}).=0D=

+=0D
+An RTT sample MUST NOT be generated for a packet that is not newly ackno=
wledged.=0D
+This avoids multiple RTT samples for the same packet.=0D
+=0D
+An RTT sample MUST NOT be generated for a packet that is not the largest=
=0D
+acknowledged in the received ACK frame.  A peer reports host delays for =
only the=0D
=0D

I don't think that you need a "MUST NOT" here. Your definition of the= sample covers this.

=0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

=0D 
> +This avoids multiple RTT samples for the =
same packet.=0D
+=0D
+An RTT sample MUST NOT be generated for a packet that is not the largest=
=0D
+acknowledged in the received ACK frame.  A peer reports host delays for =
only the=0D
+largest acknowledged packet in an ACK frame, which is assumed by subsequ=
ent=0D
+computations of smoothed_rtt and rttvar in correcting for host delays.=0D=

+=0D
+An RTT sample MUST NOT be generated if the ACK frame does not newly ackn=
owledge=0D
+an ack-eliciting packet. A peer does not send an ACK frame in response t=
o=0D
+receiving only non-ack-eliciting packets, and an ACK frame that is subse=
quently=0D
+sent can include an arbitrarily large Ack Delay field.  Ignoring such AC=
K frames=0D
+avoids complications in subsequent smoothed_rtt and rttvar computations.=
=0D
+=0D
+A sender might generate multiple RTT samples per RTT when multiple ACK f=
rames=0D
+are received within an RTT.  As suggested in {{?RFC6298}}, doing so migh=
t result=0D
+in inadequate history in smoothed_rtt and rttvar.  This is an open quest=
ion=0D
=0D

The "This" here is not very clear. "Ensuring that RTT estimates retai= n sufficient history is an open research question."

=0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

=0D 
> +lesser of min_rtt and latest_rtt on subse=
quent samples.=0D
+=0D
+An endpoint uses only locally observed times in computing the min_rtt an=
d does=0D
+not correct for host delays reported by the peer ({{ack-delay}}).  Doing=
 so=0D
+allows the endpoint to set a lower bound for the smoothed_rtt based enti=
rely on=0D
+what it observes (see {{smoothed-rtt}}), and limits potential underestim=
ation=0D
+due to erroneously-reported delays by the peer.=0D
+=0D
+## Computing smoothed_rtt and rttvar {#smoothed-rtt}=0D
+=0D
+smoothed_rtt is an exponentially-weighted moving average of an endpoint&=
#39;s=0D
+RTT samples, and rttvar is the endpoint's estimated variance in=0D
+the RTT samples.=0D
+=0D
+smoothed_rtt estimates path latency by correcting RTT samples for peer-r=
eported=0D
+host delays ({{ack-delay}}).  A peer indicates that the peer's delay=
 in sending=0D
=0D

Check grammar. "A peer indicates that the peer's delay" might be corr= ect, but it's hard to read.

=0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

=0D 
> +the RTT samples.=0D
+=0D
+smoothed_rtt estimates path latency by correcting RTT samples for peer-r=
eported=0D
+host delays ({{ack-delay}}).  A peer indicates that the peer's delay=
 in sending=0D
+an acknowledgement for an ack-eliciting packet will be no greater than t=
he=0D
+max_ack_delay transport parameter.  Consequently, when a peer reports an=
 Ack=0D
+Delay that is greater than max_ack_delay, the delay is attributed to rea=
sons out=0D
+of the peer's control, such as scheduler latency at the peer or loss=
 of previous=0D
+ACK frames.  Any delays beyond the peer's max_ack_delay are therefor=
e considered=0D
+effectively part of path delay and incorporated into the smoothed_rtt es=
timate.=0D
+=0D
+When correcting an RTT sample using peer-reported acknowledgement delays=
, an=0D
+endpoint:=0D
+=0D
+- SHOULD use the lesser of the value reported in Ack Delay field of the =
ACK=0D
+  frame and the peer's max_ack_delay transport parameter ({{ack-dela=
y}}).=0D
=0D

Why SHOULD? Why use 2119 language here at all?

=0D
=0D

When correcting an RTT sample, endpoints first limit the reported Ack = Delay to the value of the max_ack_delay transport parameter. The RTT sam= ple is then reduced by the resulting delay value. If correcting for host= delays would result in a sample that is less than min_rtt, the unmodifie= d sample is used. This guards against underestimation of RTT as a result= of inflated reporting of host delays.

=0D
=0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

=0D 
> +effectively part of path delay and incorp=
orated into the smoothed_rtt estimate.=0D
+=0D
+When correcting an RTT sample using peer-reported acknowledgement delays=
, an=0D
+endpoint:=0D
+=0D
+- SHOULD use the lesser of the value reported in Ack Delay field of the =
ACK=0D
+  frame and the peer's max_ack_delay transport parameter ({{ack-dela=
y}}).=0D
+=0D
+- MUST not apply the correction if the resulting RTT sample is smaller t=
han the=0D
+  min_rtt.  This limits the underestimation that a misreporting peer can=
 cause=0D
+  to the smoothed_rtt.=0D
+=0D
+On the first RTT sample in a connection, the smoothed_rtt is set to the=0D=

+latest_rtt.  The peer-reported host delay MUST NOT be used on the first =
sample,=0D
+since correcting for it would result in a smoothed_rtt that is smaller t=
han the=0D
+min_rtt.=0D
=0D

This assertion isn't necessary. Yes, the one sample you have for min_= rtt is equal to latest_rtt, so of course any host delay will not be appli= ed. So this just duplicates the earlier requirement. If anything, just = note that there is no point in applying host delay corrections as they ar= e never applied.

=0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

=0D 
>  ~~~=0D
-min_rtt =3D min(min_rtt, latest_rtt)=0D
-ack_delay =3D min(ack_delay, max_ack_delay)=0D
-if (ack_delay + min_rtt < latest_rtt):=0D
+ack_delay =3D min(Ack Delay in ACK Frame, max_ack_delay)=0D
+if (min_rtt + ack_delay < latest_rtt):=0D
   latest_rtt =3D latest_rtt - ack_delay=0D
=0D

I think that you should use a different name for this result. Otherwi= se, you are change the value of a variable that you rely on in prose.

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If the timer expires and the client has no CRYPTO data t= o=0D >=0D > -retransmit and does not have Handshake keys, it SHOULD send an Initial= packet in=0D >=0D > -a UDP datagram of at least 1200 bytes. If the client has Handshake ke= ys, it=0D >=0D > -SHOULD send a Handshake packet.=0D >=0D > -=0D >=0D > -On each consecutive expiration of the crypto timer without receiving a= n=0D >=0D > -acknowledgement for a new packet, the sender SHOULD double the crypto=0D= >=0D > -retransmission timeout and set a timer for this period.=0D >=0D > +MUST ensure the crypto retransmission timer is set if there is unackno= wledged=0D >=0D > +crypto data and MUST ensure the timer is set until it has 1-RTT keys.=0D= >=0D > +If the timer expires and the client has no CRYPTO data to retransmit a= nd does=0D >=0D > +not have Handshake keys, it MUST send an Initial packet in a UDP datag= ram of=0D >=0D > +at least 1200 bytes. If the client has Handshake keys, it MUST send a= =0D >=0D >=0D > Why would the client send a Handshake packet if there=E2=80=99s no CRYP= TO data to=0D > retransmit? If there=E2=80=99s no Handshake CRYPTO data to retransmit, = this means=0D > that the server already received the client=E2=80=98s TLS messages sent= with=0D > Handshake keys, and won=E2=80=99t be blocked by the 3x Limit any more, = doesn=E2=80=99t it?=0D >=0D > =E2=80=94=0D > You are receiving this because your review was requested.=0D > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub=0D > ,=0D > or mute the thread=0D > =0D > .=0D >=0D =0D =0D -- =0D You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.=0D Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub:=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2590#issuecomment-480720320= ----==_mimepart_5caafb35c8cbb_db03f89d92d45b8499675 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If the server first flight does not include finished and the client
=0D= handshake ack is lost, the client has no unacked data but the server is=0D flow control limited.
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=0D > In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
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@marten-seemann That seems like a sensible point. Possibly this should be a SHOULD, not a MUST when the largest acked is not ack-eliciting?

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Because the server could be blocked until more packets are received, the client -MUST start the crypto retransmission timer even if there is no unacknowledged -CRYPTO data. If the timer expires and the client has no CRYPTO data to -retransmit and does not have Handshake keys, it SHOULD send an Initial packet in -a UDP datagram of at least 1200 bytes. If the client has Handshake keys, it -SHOULD send a Handshake packet. - -On each consecutive expiration of the crypto timer without receiving an -acknowledgement for a new packet, the sender SHOULD double the crypto -retransmission timeout and set a timer for this period. +MUST ensure the crypto retransmission timer is set if there is unacknowledged +crypto data and MUST ensure the timer is set until it has 1-RTT keys. +If the timer expires and the client has no CRYPTO data to retransmit and does +not have Handshake keys, it MUST send an Initial packet in a UDP datagram of +at least 1200 bytes. If the client has Handshake keys, it MUST send a I believe the particular concern is that the client could have Handshake keys because they receive the server's Initial, but not receive the server's Handshake packet, so have nothing to send in Handshake encryption. If the client ever had CRYPTO data to send in Handshake, then this would not be a concern, as you state. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2590#discussion_r273049190 ----==_mimepart_5cab4e89d1085_4cc83fcaa0ed45b8114847 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -458,17 +462,16 @@ sent, then no alarm should be armed until data has been received from the
 client.
 
 Because the server could be blocked until more packets are received, the client
-MUST start the crypto retransmission timer even if there is no unacknowledged
-CRYPTO data.  If the timer expires and the client has no CRYPTO data to
-retransmit and does not have Handshake keys, it SHOULD send an Initial packet in
-a UDP datagram of at least 1200 bytes.  If the client has Handshake keys, it
-SHOULD send a Handshake packet.
-
-On each consecutive expiration of the crypto timer without receiving an
-acknowledgement for a new packet, the sender SHOULD double the crypto
-retransmission timeout and set a timer for this period.
+MUST ensure the crypto retransmission timer is set if there is unacknowledged
+crypto data and MUST ensure the timer is set until it has 1-RTT keys.
+If the timer expires and the client has no CRYPTO data to retransmit and does
+not have Handshake keys, it MUST send an Initial packet in a UDP datagram of
+at least 1200 bytes.  If the client has Handshake keys, it MUST send a

I believe the particular concern is that the client could have Handshake keys because they receive the server's Initial, but not receive the server's Handshake packet, so have nothing to send in Handshake encryption.

If the client ever had CRYPTO data to send in Handshake, then this would not be a concern, as you state.

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We could also require (or at least recommend?) the peer to not send acknowledgements for non-ack-eliciting packets.

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----==_mimepart_5cab53e3d1e00_3c813fedfdcd45bc211975-- From nobody Mon Apr 8 07:57:02 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88687120154 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2019 07:57:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s6on1slA4khV for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2019 07:56:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 89186120026 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2019 07:56:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2019 07:56:57 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554735417; bh=NTWO+0G/ivV7vF3Rt0fRFWl+yoeoW6d7tPFkiDtEtxM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=U+EgyJRlF2hZ7bVlm0XQ1xsWeYcricpBQjdpyUxaqBqeCbsyZ8xeY7oNLpzXapmAv q2ylXj6tPx0FyO4bZQJxkQcjBWpyop3lVgTjD2In2v2pqa0LYM8rQ5ATR+xF3PDf5i Z12H1U9UOQajEEFl2l/TD59qOg6Tip/7V05DRv7I= From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Reduce restrictions on valid RTT samples (#2568) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cab6139ec44_4d03fb5d4ad45c03273d3"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2019 14:57:01 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cab6139ec44_4d03fb5d4ad45c03273d3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I disagree that we shouldn't be acknowledging non-ack-eliciting packets as the largest_ack. We should always be sending the most up to date information available? @marten-seemann why don't you track the non-ack-eliciting packets? They shouldn't be very high in number or really structurally different from other packets? It seems like an unnecessary optimization that would just cause you more problems in this scenario. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2568#issuecomment-480867509 ----==_mimepart_5cab6139ec44_4d03fb5d4ad45c03273d3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I disagree that we shouldn't be acknowledging non-ack-eliciting packet= s as the largest_ack. We should always be sending the most up to date inf= ormation available? @marten-seemann why don't you track = the non-ack-eliciting packets? They shouldn't be very high in number or r= eally structurally different from other packets? It seems like an unneces= sary optimization that would just cause you more problems in this scenari= o.

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I=E2=80=99m not sure, but I guess RFC4960 & SCTP implementation ma= y be useful in this case.

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It's been a while since I worked actively on a QUIC impl., but in my i= mplementation, buffers would be retained until all pending packets in a b= lock have been acked or lost, then that block is flushed. Having an unnec= essary complication to this system would be painful. If it is only the le= ading block, i.e. one of a few recently sent non ack eliciting packets, i= t won't impact the overall design as much.

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I found this in RFC4960(https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4960#section-= 7.2.1):
"When cwnd is less than or equal to ssthresh, an SCTP endpoint MUST
use the slow-start algorithm to increase cwnd only if the current
congestion window is being fully utilized, an incoming SACK
advances the Cumulative TSN Ack Point, and the data sender is not
in Fast Recovery. Only when these three conditions are met can
the cwnd be increased; otherwise, the cwnd MUST not be increased."

The current QUIC recovery text tries to clarify what fully utilized mean= s, particularly in the presence of pacing.

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We discovered one interesting edge case with Persistent congestion at least in mvfst. Due to TLP, we might retransmit data in a packet that is already outstanding if we don't have new data. We call this a "clone". If the original packet is acked, we do not get rid of the clone. We let the clone be outstanding and disable the loss timer, i.e. it's no use trying to retransmit the cloned packet. Instead we rely on regular loss recovery to get rid of the clone. So this means that it is possible to go into application idle state while having packets outstanding. What was surprising to us when we were implementing draft-19 loss was that this strategy might interact poorly with persistent congestion returning from app idle state. This is because the time between the smallest and largest loss packet if there is idle state in-between will most likely exceed the loss threshold. We're planning on fixing this by making a special case for idle state with persistent congestion.

I think others have a similar strategy of dealing with TLP transmissions. Would it be useful to document this edge case?

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Just two bits in clear to enable full on-path loss location

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Unless I'm missing something, this seems more appropriate for an individual draft rather than a QUIC WG document in this repo?

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Unless I'm missing something, this seems more appropriate for an individual draft rather than a QUIC WG document in this repo?

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@ferrieux: This draft is an individual draft and not a wg do= cument. A couple of suggestions:

  1. This is a repo for documents that are adopted by the QUIC wg, not for= individual drafts. Use the internet drafts repository to post new indivi= dual drafts: https://datatracker.ietf.org/submit/
  2. The draft should be renamed to reflect that it's not a wg document. S= ee Section 7 of https://www.ietf.org/standards/ids/guidelines/ for= more, but I would recommend renaming it to draft-ferriux-hamchaoui-quic-= lossbits-exp.

Unless I'm mistaken, the spin bit draft started its life in this exact= place. The reasoning being similar (a proposed extension to the main dra= fts, without preconceptions about where it should eventually land), I ass= umed it would be fine to do the same. Why is different ?

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@ferrieux: The spin bit document started here: h= ttps://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-trammell-quic-spin-00. It wasn't a p= art of the base-drafts repository.

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OK, will do so, then. Is there a way of somehow linking to there from wi= thin quicwg documentation, beyond a mention on the mailing list ?

That's a question for the chairs. I would: (i) close this PR, (ii) submi= t an individual draft to the drafts repo, (iii) ask the chairs for how to p= roceed.

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= ----==_mimepart_5cabac54bcac9_663e3f9b624d45bc1628ab-- From nobody Mon Apr 8 13:19:17 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26AE5120232 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2019 13:19:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3QkZ7OAui8_c for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2019 13:19:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 01EA8120340 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2019 13:19:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2019 13:19:10 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554754750; bh=hfI3OBUcC/wHD5fvQTv+/VqLgxdasD+GLxtbVxrJ9/s=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=MQXPwfhlulNmhm3jfNj91S33yxo5cbFTDMlm6PJDDrhrrc6FaA9uXnUaAvrw1Fsnj 2SyVqOmky8LcCkt5kQknbzGB7POG9OqUG8fYn+3omIt5uZHLdaqaQPpi+y6f23w39w L0tTNtVlv4DfPvBzss6zUf70vIpemCFFzbg+46qA= From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Two Loss bits (Q&R) (#2594) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cabacbecbf68_31013f972ded45b427516a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2019 20:19:15 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cabacbecbf68_31013f972ded45b427516a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit IMO this is clearly beyond the scope of QUICv1. Not all work going on with QUIC deserves a link from the main repo. It is straightforward to set up a separate GitHub repo following MTs instructions if you want your document source to be available. I also recommend the above suggestions, post an Individual Draft and promote the work on the mailing list. The working group can, at the chairs discretion, give consideration on if there is support to adopt the document etc. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2594#issuecomment-480991387 ----==_mimepart_5cabacbecbf68_31013f972ded45b427516a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

IMO this is clearly beyond the scope of QUICv1. Not all work going on = with QUIC deserves a link from the main repo. It is straightforward to se= t up a separate GitHub repo following MTs instructions if you want your d= ocument source to be available.

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IMO this is clearly beyond the scope of QUICv1. Not all work going on wi= th QUIC deserves a link from the main repo. It is straightforward to set up= a separate GitHub repo following MTs instructions if you want your documen= t source to be available.

I also recommend the above suggestions, post an Individual Draft and pro= mote the work on the mailing list. The working group can, at the chairs dis= cretion, give consideration on if there is support to adopt the document et= c.

So, I take it that the prerequisite to suggesting any new idea now amou= nts to writing a bona fide I-D, regardless of how incremental the idea is w= rt existing wg material ?

Isn't there a more lightweight approach, allowing to reuse the nice gith= ub workflow for new material, but in a separate "not approved yet" area ?

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

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+An endpoint MUST NOT excessively delay acknowledgements of ack-eliciting

Heh -- I used the word contract and then removed it. I'll use your words.

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----==_mimepart_5cabb17b2d01_68e03fba3e8d45b8259f6-- From nobody Mon Apr 8 13:48:57 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0E461205E2 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2019 13:48:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id j5kv3RPAw3Dl for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2019 13:48:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o1.sgmail.github.com (o1.sgmail.github.com [192.254.114.176]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 21D1E1201BD for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2019 13:48:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=eaVXEsB83TfD0X/3EFJCOhU7ksI=; b=BAbRa3Vgr2D7Vwi7 Pfpsuk45fOxVam7YbJ2IIZKfALaeWyIE3L08+331K85t/rd3kOcyYVtchIsPhO2g 3w1jzlfpyxf4aFqqvDrQ7H6WOZhYG2hH9S/E9Lj2660ZgBCb+VMF6KGj7lTmqenv u35TqthgJftv0P0WzjYdY0qoG+0= Received: by filter0767p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0767p1las1-9970-5CABB3B4-D 2019-04-08 20:48:53.084808616 +0000 UTC m=+251759.175537787 Received: from github-lowworker-8f847b2.cp1-iad.github.net (unknown [192.30.252.41]) by ismtpd0012p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id FpQTpxJDREqmN4GcPS8ZXw for ; Mon, 08 Apr 2019 20:48:52.942 +0000 (UTC) Received: from github.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by github-lowworker-8f847b2.cp1-iad.github.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4943360048 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2019 13:48:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2019 20:48:53 +0000 (UTC) From: David Schinazi Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Two Loss bits (Q&R) (#2594) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cabb3b4e2459_d123fa65b8d45b4315230"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: DavidSchinazi X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak0/MsBgPhMnYlZejXW49LuhSpJpczcgr3PEW3 kjyE5kW9Q20Ntn2gTRnVrZNPzI9uD5LPVq2r58KnPKVr+UgMH1yWBoORetQ8J6z/kJy6Pngk6mHMG2 WuWuwLDOQZYgGHwAoFymgsb9324UW/n3dx3LzCVGS0liBs3iAmy5P8iYuV9bfzY7XHwjzz8KMZCoON o= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2019 20:48:56 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cabb3b4e2459_d123fa65b8d45b4315230 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi @ferrieux, creating a separate draft is pretty lightweight. Especially when you've already written it, all you need to do is submit it - there is no need for a GitHub to start the discussion. I personally have several individual drafts in this state. Once you've submitted your draft all you need to do is email the mailing list to get feedback on it. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2594#issuecomment-481002113 ----==_mimepart_5cabb3b4e2459_d123fa65b8d45b4315230 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi @ferrieux, creating a separate draft is pretty lightweight. Espec= ially when you've already written it, all you need to do is submit it - the= re is no need for a GitHub to start the discussion. I personally have sever= al individual drafts in this state. Once you've submitted your draft all yo= u need to do is email the mailing list to get feedback on it.

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= ----==_mimepart_5cabb3b4e2459_d123fa65b8d45b4315230-- From nobody Mon Apr 8 14:01:24 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0F3C12034F for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2019 14:01:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id U1UTVIYQ8CB2 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2019 14:01:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 64B7A120013 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2019 14:01:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2019 14:01:19 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554757279; bh=Om4aZlEVBZ2Vm2KoHWjRGyqRRuJ5UJXga2ERJX33MA8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=pg05MtOzl9HkCgzfrfQdIzIy12KZhqIvyHHwcUFztRmQwylii8Rx4B2uqDrkVG9uX S+I5MYrYtzTAtIGYQOv91dbMIAEDf3x02+lGBC7B/L/7/vZCUdbkKNAwiNdiHuyXLa JKXBHnM+ysD/IO87oXoWFEflnrPBd6Zw/FbA+a9Q= From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Two Loss bits (Q&R) (#2594) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cabb69f71db6_2fe33faa11cd45c43082ef"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2019 21:01:22 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cabb69f71db6_2fe33faa11cd45c43082ef Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You've clearly put the effort in to write this draft, which is great. However, we should ensure we respect the chair's process; several QUIC drafts are now in the late stage process as described in CONTRIBUTING.md (https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md#late-stage-process). I'd encourage you to file an issue that articulates the problem statement and the benefits of the proposal. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2594#issuecomment-481006392 ----==_mimepart_5cabb69f71db6_2fe33faa11cd45c43082ef Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

You've clearly put the effort in to write this draft, which is great. = However, we should ensure we respect the chair's process; several QUIC dr= afts are now in the late stage process as described in CONTRIBUTING.md (<= a href=3D"https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.= md#late-stage-process">https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/blob/master/= CONTRIBUTING.md#late-stage-process).

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= ----==_mimepart_5cabb69f71db6_2fe33faa11cd45c43082ef-- From nobody Mon Apr 8 14:12:34 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADFA6120667 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2019 14:12:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1FnHP94F07yM for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2019 14:12:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-9.smtp.github.com (out-9.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D0B61120321 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2019 14:12:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2019 14:12:26 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554757946; bh=cBnbvhXzqbwjx7aLTCrY6CF3ajHUbhm3e10fngmhV5M=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=DDFYoBKZYj8ssB6nULals6/gp5Gd4kTPuBmYaYVoWgIliGo/Spyatd9x4bIhr5otD JZTYJWrxJq6sDNnLTW5w89Iv40DK5eMm06Q8ecWlzyno+/M7lR4eySKDvo+F2Ttqx5 J9e5mMMZ3YArKsB8/MNIvZ5T+lBmqwSbMDgwqrhY= From: Alexandre Ferrieux Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Two Loss bits (Q&R) (#2594) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cabb93a19ef8_5a783fd81e2d45c086334"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ferrieux X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2019 21:12:33 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cabb93a19ef8_5a783fd81e2d45c086334 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > You've clearly put the effort in to write this draft, which is great. However, we should ensure we respect the chair's process; several QUIC drafts are now in the late stage process as described in CONTRIBUTING.md (https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md#late-stage-process). > > I'd encourage you to file an issue that articulates the problem statement and the benefits of the proposal. Oh, the intent was not *at all* to hijack the v1 late-stage convergence. This draft is here to convey a simple idea that'd most appropriately be implemented in a post-v1, negotiated experimental version among those that are expected to proliferate after RFC publication. So I won't disrupt the already tight schedule with it. I'm mereley looking for an appropriate landing site for a simply formatted md file (as opposed to a full I-D with its constrained layout). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2594#issuecomment-481010026 ----==_mimepart_5cabb93a19ef8_5a783fd81e2d45c086334 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

You've clearly put the effort in to write this draft, which is great. = However, we should ensure we respect the chair's process; several QUIC dr= afts are now in the late stage process as described in CONTRIBUTING.md (<= a href=3D"https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.= md#late-stage-process">https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/blob/master/= CONTRIBUTING.md#late-stage-process).

I'd encourage you to file an issue that articulates the problem statem= ent and the benefits of the proposal.

Oh, the intent was not at all to hijack the v1 late-stage con= vergence. This draft is here to convey a simple idea that'd most appropri= ately be implemented in a post-v1, negotiated experimental version among = those that are expected to proliferate after RFC publication. So I won't = disrupt the already tight schedule with it. I'm mereley looking for an ap= propriate landing site for a simply formatted md file (as opposed to a fu= ll I-D with its constrained layout).

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I can see how maybe it seems easier to fork this repo and work in that b= ut it is a bit confusing for the rest of us.

Depending exactly what you're trying to achieve, you might find it easie= r to create a Wiki page. This is what the ECN work did: https://github.com/quicwg/b= ase-drafts/wiki/ECN-in-QUIC. It would allow simple markup and collabora= tion.

If you do want IETF-submission-compatible formats, these instructions fo= r setting up your own separate repo don't take much time: https://gi= thub.com/martinthomson/i-d-template/blob/master/doc/REPO.md

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If no previous RTT is available, or if the network changes, the initial RTT SHOULD be set to 500ms, resulting in a 1 second initial handshake timeout as recommended in -{{?RFC6298}}. When an acknowledgement is received, a new RTT is computed and the -timer SHOULD be set for twice the newly computed smoothed RTT. +{{?RFC6298}}. When the first acknowledgement is received, an RTT is computed and +the timer SHOULD be set for twice the newly computed RTT. How about "When the first acknowledgement is received, the timer SHOULD be set for twice the value of the resulting RTT sample"? Now that I see further below, why is this necessary at all? I would remove this last sentence. The beginning of the next para says exactly this, since the smoothed_rtt is set to the RTT sample on the first ack. > -When a crypto packet is sent, the sender MUST set a timer for the crypto -timeout period. This timer MUST be updated when a new crypto packet is sent. -Upon timeout, the sender MUST retransmit all unacknowledged CRYPTO data if -possible. +When a crypto packet is sent, the sender MUST set a timer for twice the smoothed +RTT. This timer MUST be updated when a new crypto packet is sent and when +an acknowledgement is received which computes a new RTT sample. Upon timeout, +the sender MUST retransmit all unacknowledged CRYPTO data if possible. Why "if possible"? > -When a crypto packet is sent, the sender MUST set a timer for the crypto -timeout period. This timer MUST be updated when a new crypto packet is sent. -Upon timeout, the sender MUST retransmit all unacknowledged CRYPTO data if -possible. +When a crypto packet is sent, the sender MUST set a timer for twice the smoothed +RTT. This timer MUST be updated when a new crypto packet is sent and when +an acknowledgement is received which computes a new RTT sample. Upon timeout, +the sender MUST retransmit all unacknowledged CRYPTO data if possible. + +On each consecutive expiration of the crypto timer without receiving an +acknowledgement for a new packet, the sender SHOULD double the crypto +retransmission timeout and set a timer for this period. I'd make this a MUST. > @@ -458,17 +462,16 @@ sent, then no alarm should be armed until data has been received from the client. Because the server could be blocked until more packets are received, the client -MUST start the crypto retransmission timer even if there is no unacknowledged -CRYPTO data. If the timer expires and the client has no CRYPTO data to -retransmit and does not have Handshake keys, it SHOULD send an Initial packet in -a UDP datagram of at least 1200 bytes. If the client has Handshake keys, it -SHOULD send a Handshake packet. - -On each consecutive expiration of the crypto timer without receiving an -acknowledgement for a new packet, the sender SHOULD double the crypto -retransmission timeout and set a timer for this period. +MUST ensure the crypto retransmission timer is set if there is unacknowledged +crypto data and MUST ensure the timer is set until it has 1-RTT keys. This needs rephrasing. How about "MUST ensure that the crypto retransmission timer is set if there is unacknowledged crypto data or if the client does not yet have 1-RTT keys." > @@ -458,17 +462,16 @@ sent, then no alarm should be armed until data has been received from the client. Because the server could be blocked until more packets are received, the client -MUST start the crypto retransmission timer even if there is no unacknowledged -CRYPTO data. If the timer expires and the client has no CRYPTO data to -retransmit and does not have Handshake keys, it SHOULD send an Initial packet in -a UDP datagram of at least 1200 bytes. If the client has Handshake keys, it -SHOULD send a Handshake packet. - -On each consecutive expiration of the crypto timer without receiving an -acknowledgement for a new packet, the sender SHOULD double the crypto -retransmission timeout and set a timer for this period. +MUST ensure the crypto retransmission timer is set if there is unacknowledged +crypto data and MUST ensure the timer is set until it has 1-RTT keys. +If the timer expires and the client has no CRYPTO data to retransmit and does +not have Handshake keys, it MUST send an Initial packet in a UDP datagram of +at least 1200 bytes. If the client has Handshake keys, it MUST send a +Handshake packet. Suggested reword: "If the crypto retransmission timer expires before the client has 1-RTT keys, it is possible that the client may not have any crypto data to retransmit. The client MUST still send a new packet to allow the server to continue sending data (see Section XX in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}). If Handshake keys are available to the client, it MUST send a Handshake packet, and otherwise, an Initial packet in a UDP datagram of at least 1200 bytes." > @@ -1114,7 +1117,8 @@ SetLossDetectionTimer(): loss_detection_timer.update(loss_time) return - if (crypto packets are in flight): + if (crypto packets are in flight && + crypto data to send): what does this predicate mean? That there's new data to send? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -442,13 +442,17 @@ connections over the same network SHOULD use the previous connection's final
 smoothed RTT value as the resumed connection's initial RTT.  If no previous RTT
 is available, or if the network changes, the initial RTT SHOULD be set to 500ms,
 resulting in a 1 second initial handshake timeout as recommended in
-{{?RFC6298}}. When an acknowledgement is received, a new RTT is computed and the
-timer SHOULD be set for twice the newly computed smoothed RTT.
+{{?RFC6298}}. When the first acknowledgement is received, an RTT is computed and
+the timer SHOULD be set for twice the newly computed RTT.

How about "When the first acknowledgement is received, the timer SHOULD be set for twice the value of the resulting RTT sample"? Now that I see further below, why is this necessary at all? I would remove this last sentence. The beginning of the next para says exactly this, since the smoothed_rtt is set to the RTT sample on the first ack.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  
-When a crypto packet is sent, the sender MUST set a timer for the crypto
-timeout period.  This timer MUST be updated when a new crypto packet is sent.
-Upon timeout, the sender MUST retransmit all unacknowledged CRYPTO data if
-possible.
+When a crypto packet is sent, the sender MUST set a timer for twice the smoothed
+RTT.  This timer MUST be updated when a new crypto packet is sent and when
+an acknowledgement is received which computes a new RTT sample. Upon timeout,
+the sender MUST retransmit all unacknowledged CRYPTO data if possible.

Why "if possible"?

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  
-When a crypto packet is sent, the sender MUST set a timer for the crypto
-timeout period.  This timer MUST be updated when a new crypto packet is sent.
-Upon timeout, the sender MUST retransmit all unacknowledged CRYPTO data if
-possible.
+When a crypto packet is sent, the sender MUST set a timer for twice the smoothed
+RTT.  This timer MUST be updated when a new crypto packet is sent and when
+an acknowledgement is received which computes a new RTT sample. Upon timeout,
+the sender MUST retransmit all unacknowledged CRYPTO data if possible.
+
+On each consecutive expiration of the crypto timer without receiving an
+acknowledgement for a new packet, the sender SHOULD double the crypto
+retransmission timeout and set a timer for this period.

I'd make this a MUST.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -458,17 +462,16 @@ sent, then no alarm should be armed until data has been received from the
 client.
 
 Because the server could be blocked until more packets are received, the client
-MUST start the crypto retransmission timer even if there is no unacknowledged
-CRYPTO data.  If the timer expires and the client has no CRYPTO data to
-retransmit and does not have Handshake keys, it SHOULD send an Initial packet in
-a UDP datagram of at least 1200 bytes.  If the client has Handshake keys, it
-SHOULD send a Handshake packet.
-
-On each consecutive expiration of the crypto timer without receiving an
-acknowledgement for a new packet, the sender SHOULD double the crypto
-retransmission timeout and set a timer for this period.
+MUST ensure the crypto retransmission timer is set if there is unacknowledged
+crypto data and MUST ensure the timer is set until it has 1-RTT keys.

This needs rephrasing. How about "MUST ensure that the crypto retransmission timer is set if there is unacknowledged crypto data or if the client does not yet have 1-RTT keys."

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -458,17 +462,16 @@ sent, then no alarm should be armed until data has been received from the
 client.
 
 Because the server could be blocked until more packets are received, the client
-MUST start the crypto retransmission timer even if there is no unacknowledged
-CRYPTO data.  If the timer expires and the client has no CRYPTO data to
-retransmit and does not have Handshake keys, it SHOULD send an Initial packet in
-a UDP datagram of at least 1200 bytes.  If the client has Handshake keys, it
-SHOULD send a Handshake packet.
-
-On each consecutive expiration of the crypto timer without receiving an
-acknowledgement for a new packet, the sender SHOULD double the crypto
-retransmission timeout and set a timer for this period.
+MUST ensure the crypto retransmission timer is set if there is unacknowledged
+crypto data and MUST ensure the timer is set until it has 1-RTT keys.
+If the timer expires and the client has no CRYPTO data to retransmit and does
+not have Handshake keys, it MUST send an Initial packet in a UDP datagram of
+at least 1200 bytes.  If the client has Handshake keys, it MUST send a
+Handshake packet.

Suggested reword: "If the crypto retransmission timer expires before the client has 1-RTT keys, it is possible that the client may not have any crypto data to retransmit. The client MUST still send a new packet to allow the server to continue sending data (see Section XX in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}). If Handshake keys are available to the client, it MUST send a Handshake packet, and otherwise, an Initial packet in a UDP datagram of at least 1200 bytes."

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1114,7 +1117,8 @@ SetLossDetectionTimer():
     loss_detection_timer.update(loss_time)
     return
 
-  if (crypto packets are in flight):
+  if (crypto packets are in flight &&
+      crypto data to send):

what does this predicate mean? That there's new data to send?

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>      // Crypto retransmission timeout.
     RetransmitUnackedCryptoData()
     crypto_count++
+  else if (endpoint is client without 1-RTT keys):
+    if (will send Initial packet):

@martinthomson: AIUI, you'd remember this better since it was your PR, but wasn't the bit we agreed to remove was about special-casing padding of Initial packets? My reading of @ianswett 's proposed text doesn't contradict that.

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----==_mimepart_5cabc1f591f0_6d073f8398ed45bc114421-- From nobody Mon Apr 8 14:55:08 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ECF6120359 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2019 14:55:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EFzhvosPxlnQ for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2019 14:55:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B359E120052 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2019 14:55:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2019 14:55:04 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554760504; bh=wRnL647n+McIfWTT2ELGaaR99RWgMC6BveQY6jR3emg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=fawU5hXtvS8rxv55dXaY4BkdGi+PwmKbgcWz90CJEPFCiAu3PprgXr97L606KCeRi WbHAN8v7QuCnH7yyVl/td4kqJs8XCIQkFzs+Uybe4m0nMh4ckHFlW4qtz8gOhgTM2/ V+ArRXxgWeHokB8nQKSJ2qFwAUoZhAWT7AV/n+XY= From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Two Loss bits (Q&R) (#2594) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cabc338b8420_1dc23f8a78ed45bc22346c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2019 21:55:07 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cabc338b8420_1dc23f8a78ed45bc22346c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @ferrieux : It's perfectly fine to not submit a draft and to keep this on github -- that is entirely your prerogative. The reason you're getting these process comments is that you've generated a PR against the base-drafts repository for what is effectively a new draft. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2594#issuecomment-481022896 ----==_mimepart_5cabc338b8420_1dc23f8a78ed45bc22346c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@ferrieux : It's perfectly fine to not submit a draft and to= keep this on github -- that is entirely your prerogative. The reason you= 're getting these process comments is that you've generated a PR against = the base-drafts repository for what is effectively a new draft.

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= ----==_mimepart_5cabc338b8420_1dc23f8a78ed45bc22346c-- From nobody Mon Apr 8 15:14:44 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 252FE1200C7 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2019 15:14:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MNqHlFMh8eFy for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2019 15:14:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D4DDD120362 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2019 15:14:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2019 15:14:38 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554761678; bh=D0sqiA6c2VvOTWB305uAdFLlv9anSWd8OjKpDecPdHc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=HOoJIVe23NTvW4OZaZDP8+IKT55mTLNMJGmq6x1DKGYSLS9kSdI275P0LCijej2h4 6Az/W7EeFwrGW+OUe/9HVIuy6vk0owAr3TdT3vIp+/4QwX0Pe89cYFQ7iO5z5faXUm I7ae0I9of2vJcPt1+Kcjq56E1npDYXcpBDj4gFQ0= From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Reduce restrictions on valid RTT samples (#2568) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cabc7cee1ad4_65b13fc64ecd45c0141913"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2019 22:14:43 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cabc7cee1ad4_65b13fc64ecd45c0141913 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @marten-seemann: I agree with @nibanks that tracking non-ack-eliciting packets shouldn't be much additional load, but I don't think that's necessary. If an ACK acknowledges packets that you don't know about, they've been acked or they're non-ack-eliciting. Either ways, this ACK should not generate a valid RTT sample. I'll also note that you are not required to use every ACK that acks any ack-eliciting packets for an RTT sample. If you're not tracking a packet, you can't use it's ack for an RTT measurement. Ignoring these ACKs is the only way forward, and the text will allow that. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2568#issuecomment-481028084 ----==_mimepart_5cabc7cee1ad4_65b13fc64ecd45c0141913 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@marten-seemann: I agree with @nibanks tha= t tracking non-ack-eliciting packets shouldn't be much additional load, b= ut I don't think that's necessary.

If an ACK acknowledges packets that you don't know about, they've been= acked or they're non-ack-eliciting. Either ways, this ACK should not gen= erate a valid RTT sample.

I'll also note that you are not required to use every ACK that acks an= y ack-eliciting packets for an RTT sample. If you're not tracking a pack= et, you can't use it's ack for an RTT measurement. Ignoring these ACKs i= s the only way forward, and the text will allow that.

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Hi @ferrieux. You need to submit new drafts to the datatracker a= nd bring them to the attention of the Working Group for them to be discus= sed.

As mentioned, this repo is for adopted drafts only; until then, it's b= est in your own repo.

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For example, what happens if the peer never acks an ack-eliciting packet (either because it was actually lost, or as part of an attack)? You then have to somehow clear that packet from your history. If you use the normal loss detection mechanism for it, you have to be careful not to take any congestion controller action upon loss of that packet. You also don't want to set any timers based on non-ack-eliciting packets, etc. I never suggested sending out-of-date information, that would indeed be a bad idea. There's just no need to send an ACK at all if largest_acked is not ack-eliciting, and I'm suggesting that we recommend (mandate?) that peers don't do it. They should just wait until they receive the next ack-eliciting packet. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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It might not be a lot of additional load, but a lot of additional comp= lexity. For example, what happens if the peer never acks an ack-eliciting= packet (either because it was actually lost, or as part of an attack)? Y= ou then have to somehow clear that packet from your history. If you use t= he normal loss detection mechanism for it, you have to be careful not to = take any congestion controller action upon loss of that packet. You also = don't want to set any timers based on non-ack-eliciting packets, etc.

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I never suggested sending out-of-date information, that would indeed b= e a bad idea. There's just no need to send an ACK at all if largest_acked= is not ack-eliciting, and I'm suggesting that we recommend (mandate?) th= at peers don't do it. They should just wait until they receive the next a= ck-eliciting packet.

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Thanks for your comments, @martinthomson > ~~~ latest_rtt = ack_time - send_time_of_largest_acked ~~~ -First RTT sample: +An endpoint uses only locally observed times in generating RTT samples and does +not correct for any host delays reported by the peer ({{ack-delay}}). + +An RTT sample MUST NOT be generated for a packet that is not newly acknowledged. Samples are generated using both the packet and the ack, so I have used "for packet" a couple of times. I like your phrasing better though, so using it. > +the RTT samples. + +smoothed_rtt estimates path latency by correcting RTT samples for peer-reported +host delays ({{ack-delay}}). A peer indicates that the peer's delay in sending +an acknowledgement for an ack-eliciting packet will be no greater than the +max_ack_delay transport parameter. Consequently, when a peer reports an Ack +Delay that is greater than max_ack_delay, the delay is attributed to reasons out +of the peer's control, such as scheduler latency at the peer or loss of previous +ACK frames. Any delays beyond the peer's max_ack_delay are therefore considered +effectively part of path delay and incorporated into the smoothed_rtt estimate. + +When correcting an RTT sample using peer-reported acknowledgement delays, an +endpoint: + +- SHOULD use the lesser of the value reported in Ack Delay field of the ACK + frame and the peer's max_ack_delay transport parameter ({{ack-delay}}). Fair point. Ultimately, this is bounded by another value that the peer advertises (max_ack_delay), so there's no additional safety issue here. > +effectively part of path delay and incorporated into the smoothed_rtt estimate. + +When correcting an RTT sample using peer-reported acknowledgement delays, an +endpoint: + +- SHOULD use the lesser of the value reported in Ack Delay field of the ACK + frame and the peer's max_ack_delay transport parameter ({{ack-delay}}). + +- MUST not apply the correction if the resulting RTT sample is smaller than the + min_rtt. This limits the underestimation that a misreporting peer can cause + to the smoothed_rtt. + +On the first RTT sample in a connection, the smoothed_rtt is set to the +latest_rtt. The peer-reported host delay MUST NOT be used on the first sample, +since correcting for it would result in a smoothed_rtt that is smaller than the +min_rtt. I think the way the text flows now makes this statement moot. I'm removing it. > ~~~ -min_rtt = min(min_rtt, latest_rtt) -ack_delay = min(ack_delay, max_ack_delay) -if (ack_delay + min_rtt < latest_rtt): +ack_delay = min(Ack Delay in ACK Frame, max_ack_delay) +if (min_rtt + ack_delay < latest_rtt): latest_rtt = latest_rtt - ack_delay Good point. Changed. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2592#pullrequestreview-224148974 ----==_mimepart_5cabf2b0b201_44be3fbc5bcd45b82396ac Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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Thanks for your comments, @martinthomson

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  ~~~
 latest_rtt = ack_time - send_time_of_largest_acked
 ~~~
 
-First RTT sample:
+An endpoint uses only locally observed times in generating RTT samples and does
+not correct for any host delays reported by the peer ({{ack-delay}}).
+
+An RTT sample MUST NOT be generated for a packet that is not newly acknowledged.

Samples are generated using both the packet and the ack, so I have used "for packet" a couple of times. I like your phrasing better though, so using it.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +the RTT samples.
+
+smoothed_rtt estimates path latency by correcting RTT samples for peer-reported
+host delays ({{ack-delay}}).  A peer indicates that the peer's delay in sending
+an acknowledgement for an ack-eliciting packet will be no greater than the
+max_ack_delay transport parameter.  Consequently, when a peer reports an Ack
+Delay that is greater than max_ack_delay, the delay is attributed to reasons out
+of the peer's control, such as scheduler latency at the peer or loss of previous
+ACK frames.  Any delays beyond the peer's max_ack_delay are therefore considered
+effectively part of path delay and incorporated into the smoothed_rtt estimate.
+
+When correcting an RTT sample using peer-reported acknowledgement delays, an
+endpoint:
+
+- SHOULD use the lesser of the value reported in Ack Delay field of the ACK
+  frame and the peer's max_ack_delay transport parameter ({{ack-delay}}).

Fair point. Ultimately, this is bounded by another value that the peer advertises (max_ack_delay), so there's no additional safety issue here.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +effectively part of path delay and incorporated into the smoothed_rtt estimate.
+
+When correcting an RTT sample using peer-reported acknowledgement delays, an
+endpoint:
+
+- SHOULD use the lesser of the value reported in Ack Delay field of the ACK
+  frame and the peer's max_ack_delay transport parameter ({{ack-delay}}).
+
+- MUST not apply the correction if the resulting RTT sample is smaller than the
+  min_rtt.  This limits the underestimation that a misreporting peer can cause
+  to the smoothed_rtt.
+
+On the first RTT sample in a connection, the smoothed_rtt is set to the
+latest_rtt.  The peer-reported host delay MUST NOT be used on the first sample,
+since correcting for it would result in a smoothed_rtt that is smaller than the
+min_rtt.

I think the way the text flows now makes this statement moot. I'm removing it.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  ~~~
-min_rtt = min(min_rtt, latest_rtt)
-ack_delay = min(ack_delay, max_ack_delay)
-if (ack_delay + min_rtt < latest_rtt):
+ack_delay = min(Ack Delay in ACK Frame, max_ack_delay)
+if (min_rtt + ack_delay < latest_rtt):
   latest_rtt = latest_rtt - ack_delay

Good point. Changed.

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[ci skip] From nobody Mon Apr 8 18:33:03 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C56801201F1 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2019 18:33:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mCA_8HTLm9YS for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2019 18:33:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 62FA91201F0 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2019 18:33:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2019 18:32:59 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554773579; bh=JM0KQlYIwUzf4jjURBZkvh1yABqbwyUPXrscpsYYfa8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=rXFLY3lN1+3b7ArVBMQWiv34ifBOfB1CqFdmJ9IKscZLpExHsU86RZIJ5WJVTcxl3 6goJPzoO3ZLwR993PzbKvYB7Q+8kT+UmL+1AdeoOnAXnhYowk/1uuOQeUSr5ILwJ+B tPOhtbk8puuUtaPoyuMYzzwFEQPB3uLapgri0tRs= From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Reduce restrictions on valid RTT samples (#2568) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cabf64b6105c_52e33ff40aad45c4331c8"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2019 01:33:02 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cabf64b6105c_52e33ff40aad45c4331c8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @marten-seemann : Agreed, which is why I said that it's not necessary to track non-ack-eliciting packets. We already say in the transport draft that an endpoint not send an ACK if all it's received is ACKs. Is that what you meant? The problem here is that a peer might decide to piggyback an ACK frame with some other stuff it is about to send (MAX_STREAM_DATA perhaps). That could result in an ACK frame that acks only non-ack-eliciting packets. It seems unnecessary to put the burden on a peer to not send this ack. It's just as easy to ignore such acks when received. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2568#issuecomment-481067112 ----==_mimepart_5cabf64b6105c_52e33ff40aad45c4331c8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@marten-seemann : Agreed, which is why I said that it= 's not necessary to track non-ack-eliciting packets. We already say in = the transport draft that an endpoint not send an ACK if all it's received= is ACKs. Is that what you meant?

The problem here is that a peer might decide to piggyback an ACK frame= with some other stuff it is about to send (MAX_STREAM_DATA perhaps). Tha= t could result in an ACK frame that acks only non-ack-eliciting packets. = It seems unnecessary to put the burden on a peer to not send this ack. It= 's just as easy to ignore such acks when received.

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@marten-seemann : FWIW, I did suggest a way forward -- that an endpoint ignore ACK frames (for RTT sampling) when the ACK frame doesn't newly acknowledge ack-eliciting packets that the endpoint is tracking. Does this work for you?

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This is a big improvement over what we had. Nice work. > @@ -229,19 +229,23 @@ forward progress without relying on timeouts. ### Explicit Correction For Delayed Acknowledgements {#ack-delay} An endpoint measures the delay incurred between when a packet is received and -when the corresponding acknowledgment is sent. The endpoint encodes this host delay for -the largest acknowledged packet in the Ack Delay field of an ACK frame (see -Section 19.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}). This allows the receiver of the ACK to -adjust for any host delays - importantly, for delayed acknowledgements - when -estimating the path RTT. Where possible, this delay can include the time that a -packet was held in the OS kernel before being processed by a userspace QUIC -stack. +when the corresponding acknowledgment is sent. The endpoint encodes this host +delay for the largest acknowledged packet in the Ack Delay field of an ACK frame +(see Section 19.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}). This allows the receiver of the ACK +to adjust for any host delays - importantly, for delayed acknowledgements - when +estimating the path RTT. In certain deployments, a packet might be held in the +OS kernel or elsewhere on the host before being processed by the QUIC +stack. Where possible, an endpoint SHOULD include these delays when populating +the Ack Delay field in an ACK frame. Probably not for this change, but do we really want to encourage people to be estimating delays in the kernel? Because it seems like the point of some of the other changes is to include that sort of delay in the RTT estimate. What matters here is end-to-end delays - the time between when the packet was consumed and when the packet containing the ACK was sent out. Yes, it's true that you get a bigger RTT estimate if you don't correct for delays in the kernel or NIC, but those are just another piece of the plumbing now. If we fail to cover things like scheduling delays in the RTT estimate, we're just deluding ourselves about where the delays are. > An endpoint MUST NOT excessively delay acknowledgements of ack-eliciting -packets. Specifically, an endpoint is expected to enforce a maximum delay to +packets. Specifically, an endpoint is expected to enforce a maximum delay to avoid causing spurious timeouts at the peer. The maximum ack delay is The text doesn't say what delay is being "enforced". Maybe: >[...] an endpoint is expected to send acknowledgments within its advertised delay to avoid causing spurious timeouts at its peer. But maybe you can remove this sentence now that the "contract" text is here. > if (min_rtt + ack_delay < latest_rtt): - latest_rtt = latest_rtt - ack_delay -smoothed_rtt = 7/8 * smoothed_rtt + 1/8 * latest_rtt -rttvar_sample = abs(smoothed_rtt - latest_rtt) + corrected_rtt = latest_rtt - ack_delay Maybe `adjusted_rtt` instead. 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@martinthomson approved this pull request.

This is a big improvement over what we had. Nice work.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -229,19 +229,23 @@ forward progress without relying on timeouts.
 ### Explicit Correction For Delayed Acknowledgements {#ack-delay}
 
 An endpoint measures the delay incurred between when a packet is received and
-when the corresponding acknowledgment is sent.  The endpoint encodes this host delay for
-the largest acknowledged packet in the Ack Delay field of an ACK frame (see
-Section 19.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}).  This allows the receiver of the ACK to
-adjust for any host delays - importantly, for delayed acknowledgements - when
-estimating the path RTT.  Where possible, this delay can include the time that a
-packet was held in the OS kernel before being processed by a userspace QUIC
-stack.
+when the corresponding acknowledgment is sent.  The endpoint encodes this host
+delay for the largest acknowledged packet in the Ack Delay field of an ACK frame
+(see Section 19.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}).  This allows the receiver of the ACK
+to adjust for any host delays - importantly, for delayed acknowledgements - when
+estimating the path RTT.  In certain deployments, a packet might be held in the
+OS kernel or elsewhere on the host before being processed by the QUIC
+stack. Where possible, an endpoint SHOULD include these delays when populating
+the Ack Delay field in an ACK frame.

Probably not for this change, but do we really want to encourage people to be estimating delays in the kernel? Because it seems like the point of some of the other changes is to include that sort of delay in the RTT estimate. What matters here is end-to-end delays - the time between when the packet was consumed and when the packet containing the ACK was sent out. Yes, it's true that you get a bigger RTT estimate if you don't correct for delays in the kernel or NIC, but those are just another piece of the plumbing now. If we fail to cover things like scheduling delays in the RTT estimate, we're just deluding ourselves about where the delays are.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  
 An endpoint MUST NOT excessively delay acknowledgements of ack-eliciting
-packets. Specifically, an endpoint is expected to enforce a maximum delay to
+packets.  Specifically, an endpoint is expected to enforce a maximum delay to
 avoid causing spurious timeouts at the peer.  The maximum ack delay is

The text doesn't say what delay is being "enforced". Maybe:

[...] an endpoint is expected to send acknowledgments within its advertised delay to avoid causing spurious timeouts at its peer.

But maybe you can remove this sentence now that the "contract" text is here.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  if (min_rtt + ack_delay < latest_rtt):
-  latest_rtt = latest_rtt - ack_delay
-smoothed_rtt = 7/8 * smoothed_rtt + 1/8 * latest_rtt
-rttvar_sample = abs(smoothed_rtt - latest_rtt)
+  corrected_rtt = latest_rtt - ack_delay

Maybe adjusted_rtt instead. "Corrected" implies that there is some notion of "correctness" that applies.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4115,6 +4130,25 @@ preferred_address (0x000d):
 ~~~
 {: #fig-preferred-address title="Preferred Address format"}
 
+version_aliases (0x000e):
+
+: A list of version numbers that the server accepts as an alias for the
+  currently used versions. This transport parameter is only sent by the server.
+  Every version alias contains a lifetime in seconds. The alias is only valid
+  for that lifetime, clients MUST NOT use it after expiry.
+
+~~~
+   struct {
+     uint32 VersionNumber;
+     varint Lifetime;

I like @philsbln 's suggestion of using uint32 here.

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I just realized that there's a pathological traffic pattern which woul= d prevent a peer from ever getting a valid RTT sample (e.g. if all ACKs a= re sent on the max_ack_delay timer, and if after every ack-eliciting pack= et a non-ack-eliciting packet is received). It might be safe to ignore th= is edge case and assume that it won't happen a lot in practice.

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=0D =0D

As noted on the list, a few major items:

=0D
    =0D
  • This might be better as a NEW_TOKEN addition.
    • =0D
  • This needs more thorough treatment of linkability.
    • =0D
  • Some discussion of how to generate these values would be advisable. = That doesn't need to include the tricky bit, which is how you manage this= in anticipation of the deployment of a new version, but it does need to = have at least an example of how to do this without messing it up.
    • =0D=
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

=0D 
> @@ -4115,6 +4130,25 @@ preferred_address (=
0x000d):=0D
 ~~~=0D
 {: #fig-preferred-address title=3D"Preferred Address format"}=0D=

 =0D
+version_aliases (0x000e):=0D
+=0D
+: A list of version numbers that the server accepts as an alias for the=0D=

+  currently used versions. This transport parameter is only sent by the =
server.=0D
+  Every version alias contains a lifetime in seconds. The alias is only =
valid=0D
+  for that lifetime, clients MUST NOT use it after expiry.=0D
+=0D
+~~~=0D
+   struct {=0D
+     uint32 VersionNumber;=0D
+     varint Lifetime;=0D
+     opaque InitialSecret<20>;=0D
=0D

You want opaque InitialSalt[20]; or opaque InitialS= alt<20..32>; with appropriate values for minimum and maximu= m.

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-     opaque InitialSecret<20>;=0D
+     opaque initial_secret[20];=0D
=0D =0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

=0D 
> @@ -4115,6 +4130,25 @@ preferred_address (=
0x000d):=0D
 ~~~=0D
 {: #fig-preferred-address title=3D"Preferred Address format"}=0D=

 =0D
+version_aliases (0x000e):=0D
+=0D
+: A list of version numbers that the server accepts as an alias for the=0D=

+  currently used versions. This transport parameter is only sent by the =
server.=0D
+  Every version alias contains a lifetime in seconds. The alias is only =
valid=0D
+  for that lifetime, clients MUST NOT use it after expiry.=0D
+=0D
+~~~=0D
+   struct {=0D
+     uint32 VersionNumber;=0D
+     varint Lifetime;=0D
=0D =E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D 
-     varint Lifetime;=0D
+     uint32 lifetime_ms;=0D
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As others have suggested, include the units.

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I don't want to have a design that has a certain scenario where things= break down, but just ignores it. Also, I don't want to have a design whe= re the receiver has to decide if I can send an ACK with my current state = or not. Generally, I expect receivers to only keep track of the time they= received the largest packet number; and just use that when they frame an= ACK.

@marten-seemann as to your issues with keeping track = of ACK-only packets I'd argue they are almost entirely the same as normal= packets. The ONLY difference is congestion control. As far as the peer t= rying to attack you by explicitly not ACK'ing the packet, that's no diffe= rent for any packet. The same logic applies to all packets you send. Even= tually, you age out lost packets.

IMO, the simplest and most straight forward design is to always send A= CK frames for your complete, current state, independent of packet content= s. If the receiver of the ACK frame decides the RTT measurement shouldn't= be used, that seems to be trivial enough logic to add in that specific A= CK processing code. But I still argue that so long as the ACK wasn't dela= yed too long (~max_ack_delay) then the RTT measurement should be used.

You don't want the worst case traffic pattern of each flight/burst of = packets ends with an ACK-only packet to cause you never to accept RTT mea= surements from the correspond ACK you get back.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -229,19 +229,23 @@ forward progress without relying on timeouts.
 ### Explicit Correction For Delayed Acknowledgements {#ack-delay}
 
 An endpoint measures the delay incurred between when a packet is received and
-when the corresponding acknowledgment is sent.  The endpoint encodes this host delay for
-the largest acknowledged packet in the Ack Delay field of an ACK frame (see
-Section 19.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}).  This allows the receiver of the ACK to
-adjust for any host delays - importantly, for delayed acknowledgements - when
-estimating the path RTT.  Where possible, this delay can include the time that a
-packet was held in the OS kernel before being processed by a userspace QUIC
-stack.
+when the corresponding acknowledgment is sent.  The endpoint encodes this host
+delay for the largest acknowledged packet in the Ack Delay field of an ACK frame
+(see Section 19.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}).  This allows the receiver of the ACK
+to adjust for any host delays - importantly, for delayed acknowledgements - when
+estimating the path RTT.  In certain deployments, a packet might be held in the
+OS kernel or elsewhere on the host before being processed by the QUIC
+stack. Where possible, an endpoint SHOULD include these delays when populating
+the Ack Delay field in an ACK frame.

Yeah, I was thinking about this too, but it's text that we already had. FWIW, I think it's useful to separate out these delays, not because they shouldn't get used for PTO estimates, but because knowing component delays might be helpful. That said, I don't have a good use case for these component delays yet. OTOH, I've started that separation between stack-controlled delays and other delays in the text, it might be worth using that distinction here, and arguing that these delays ought to be part of the path RTT since they're not controlled delays. I'll file a separate issue.

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Spawned from #2592.

@martinthomson typed: "Probably not for this change, but do we really want to encourage people to be estimating delays in the kernel? Because it seems like the point of some of the other changes is to include that sort of delay in the RTT estimate. What matters here is end-to-end delays - the time between when the packet was consumed and when the packet containing the ACK was sent out. Yes, it's true that you get a bigger RTT estimate if you don't correct for delays in the kernel or NIC, but those are just another piece of the plumbing now. If we fail to cover things like scheduling delays in the RTT estimate, we're just deluding ourselves about where the delays are."

@janaiyengar typed: "Yeah, I was thinking about this too, but it's text that we already had. FWIW, I think it's useful to separate out these delays, not because they shouldn't get used for PTO estimates, but because knowing component delays might be helpful. That said, I don't have a good use case for these component delays yet. OTOH, I've started that separation between stack-controlled delays and other delays in the text, it might be worth using that distinction here, and arguing that these delays ought to be part of the path RTT since they're not controlled delays."

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -229,19 +229,23 @@ forward progress without relying on timeouts.
 ### Explicit Correction For Delayed Acknowledgements {#ack-delay}
 
 An endpoint measures the delay incurred between when a packet is received and
-when the corresponding acknowledgment is sent.  The endpoint encodes this host delay for
-the largest acknowledged packet in the Ack Delay field of an ACK frame (see
-Section 19.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}).  This allows the receiver of the ACK to
-adjust for any host delays - importantly, for delayed acknowledgements - when
-estimating the path RTT.  Where possible, this delay can include the time that a
-packet was held in the OS kernel before being processed by a userspace QUIC
-stack.
+when the corresponding acknowledgment is sent.  The endpoint encodes this host
+delay for the largest acknowledged packet in the Ack Delay field of an ACK frame
+(see Section 19.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}).  This allows the receiver of the ACK
+to adjust for any host delays - importantly, for delayed acknowledgements - when
+estimating the path RTT.  In certain deployments, a packet might be held in the
+OS kernel or elsewhere on the host before being processed by the QUIC
+stack. Where possible, an endpoint SHOULD include these delays when populating
+the Ack Delay field in an ACK frame.

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The problem here is that a peer might decide to piggyback an ACK frame= with some other stuff it is about to send (MAX_STREAM_DATA perhaps). Tha= t could result in an ACK frame that acks only non-ack-eliciting packets. = It seems unnecessary to put the burden on a peer to not send this ack. It= 's just as easy to ignore such acks when received.

There is the interesting derived effect that if you do not ACK non-ack= -eliciting packets, this could be used as optimistic ack attack mitigatio= n. This means that you can avoid gaps in the packet number space. You cou= ld periodically coalesce non-ack-eliciting packets with other packets as = necessary.

The problem is of course that the receiver needs to track those gaps, = but I'm not sure that is much different than what it already needs to tra= ck.

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The remaining fields are specific to the selected QUIC version. See {{QUIC-INVARIANTS}} for details on how packets from different versions of QUIC are interpreted. +### Latency Spin Bit {#spin-bit} + +The latency spin bit enables passive latency monitoring from observation points +on the network path throughout the duration of a connection. The spin bit is +only present in the short packet header, since it is possible to measure the +initial RTT of a connection by observing the handshake. Therefore, the spin bit +is available after version negotiation and connection establishment are +completed. On-path measurement and use of the latency spin bit is further +discussed in {{QUIC-MANAGEABILITY}}. + +The spin bit is an OPTIONAL feature of QUIC. A QUIC stack that chooses to +support the spin bit MUST implement it as specified in this document. document -> section > +The latency spin bit enables passive latency monitoring from observation points +on the network path throughout the duration of a connection. The spin bit is +only present in the short packet header, since it is possible to measure the +initial RTT of a connection by observing the handshake. Therefore, the spin bit +is available after version negotiation and connection establishment are +completed. On-path measurement and use of the latency spin bit is further +discussed in {{QUIC-MANAGEABILITY}}. + +The spin bit is an OPTIONAL feature of QUIC. A QUIC stack that chooses to +support the spin bit MUST implement it as specified in this document. + +Each endpoint unilaterally decides if the spin bit is enabled or disabled for a +connection. Implementations MUST allow administrators of clients and servers +to disable the spin bit either globally or on a per-connection basis. Even when +the spin bit is not disabled by the administrator implementations MUST disable +the spin bit on a randomly chosen fraction of connections. The random selection on a randomly chosen fraction of connections -> for a given connection with a certain likelihood > +only present in the short packet header, since it is possible to measure the +initial RTT of a connection by observing the handshake. Therefore, the spin bit +is available after version negotiation and connection establishment are +completed. On-path measurement and use of the latency spin bit is further +discussed in {{QUIC-MANAGEABILITY}}. + +The spin bit is an OPTIONAL feature of QUIC. A QUIC stack that chooses to +support the spin bit MUST implement it as specified in this document. + +Each endpoint unilaterally decides if the spin bit is enabled or disabled for a +connection. Implementations MUST allow administrators of clients and servers +to disable the spin bit either globally or on a per-connection basis. Even when +the spin bit is not disabled by the administrator implementations MUST disable +the spin bit on a randomly chosen fraction of connections. The random selection +process SHOULD be designed such that on average the spin bit is disabled for at +least one eighth of network paths. The selection process should be externally Is it 1/8th of *paths*? I thought it was supposed to be 1/8th of *connections*? (Related to @mirjak's comment below.) > +to disable the spin bit either globally or on a per-connection basis. Even when +the spin bit is not disabled by the administrator implementations MUST disable +the spin bit on a randomly chosen fraction of connections. The random selection +process SHOULD be designed such that on average the spin bit is disabled for at +least one eighth of network paths. The selection process should be externally +unpredictable but consistent for any given combination of source and destination +address and port. The selection process performed at the beginning of the +connection SHOULD be applied for all paths used by the connection. + +In case multiple connections share the same five-tuple, i.e. same source and +destination IP address and UDP port the setting of the spin bit needs to be +coordinated across all connections to ensure a clear signal to any on path +measurement point, however that might not be feasible. + +When the spin bit is disabled, endpoints MAY set the spin bit to any value, and +MUST accept any incoming value. It is RECOMMENDED that they set the spin bit to accept -> ignore -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@larseggert requested changes on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3932,6 +3938,58 @@ version-independent.  The remaining fields are specific to the selected QUIC
 version.  See {{QUIC-INVARIANTS}} for details on how packets from different
 versions of QUIC are interpreted.
 
+### Latency Spin Bit {#spin-bit}
+
+The latency spin bit enables passive latency monitoring from observation points
+on the network path throughout the duration of a connection. The spin bit is
+only present in the short packet header, since it is possible to measure the
+initial RTT of a connection by observing the handshake. Therefore, the spin bit
+is available after version negotiation and connection establishment are
+completed. On-path measurement and use of the latency spin bit is further
+discussed in {{QUIC-MANAGEABILITY}}.
+
+The spin bit is an OPTIONAL feature of QUIC. A QUIC stack that chooses to
+support the spin bit MUST implement it as specified in this document.

document -> section

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +The latency spin bit enables passive latency monitoring from observation points
+on the network path throughout the duration of a connection. The spin bit is
+only present in the short packet header, since it is possible to measure the
+initial RTT of a connection by observing the handshake. Therefore, the spin bit
+is available after version negotiation and connection establishment are
+completed. On-path measurement and use of the latency spin bit is further
+discussed in {{QUIC-MANAGEABILITY}}.
+
+The spin bit is an OPTIONAL feature of QUIC. A QUIC stack that chooses to
+support the spin bit MUST implement it as specified in this document.
+
+Each endpoint unilaterally decides if the spin bit is enabled or disabled for a
+connection. Implementations MUST allow administrators of clients and servers
+to disable the spin bit either globally or on a per-connection basis. Even when
+the spin bit is not disabled by the administrator implementations MUST disable
+the spin bit on a randomly chosen fraction of connections. The random selection

on a randomly chosen fraction of connections -> for a given connection with a certain likelihood

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +only present in the short packet header, since it is possible to measure the
+initial RTT of a connection by observing the handshake. Therefore, the spin bit
+is available after version negotiation and connection establishment are
+completed. On-path measurement and use of the latency spin bit is further
+discussed in {{QUIC-MANAGEABILITY}}.
+
+The spin bit is an OPTIONAL feature of QUIC. A QUIC stack that chooses to
+support the spin bit MUST implement it as specified in this document.
+
+Each endpoint unilaterally decides if the spin bit is enabled or disabled for a
+connection. Implementations MUST allow administrators of clients and servers
+to disable the spin bit either globally or on a per-connection basis. Even when
+the spin bit is not disabled by the administrator implementations MUST disable
+the spin bit on a randomly chosen fraction of connections. The random selection
+process SHOULD be designed such that on average the spin bit is disabled for at
+least one eighth of network paths. The selection process should be externally

Is it 1/8th of paths? I thought it was supposed to be 1/8th of connections? (Related to @mirjak's comment below.)

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +to disable the spin bit either globally or on a per-connection basis. Even when
+the spin bit is not disabled by the administrator implementations MUST disable
+the spin bit on a randomly chosen fraction of connections. The random selection
+process SHOULD be designed such that on average the spin bit is disabled for at
+least one eighth of network paths. The selection process should be externally
+unpredictable but consistent for any given combination of source and destination
+address and port. The selection process performed at the beginning of the
+connection SHOULD be applied for all paths used by the connection.
+
+In case multiple connections share the same five-tuple, i.e. same source and
+destination IP address and UDP port the setting of the spin bit needs to be
+coordinated across all connections to ensure a clear signal to any on path
+measurement point, however that might not be feasible.
+
+When the spin bit is disabled, endpoints MAY set the spin bit to any value, and
+MUST accept any incoming value. It is RECOMMENDED that they set the spin bit to

accept -> ignore

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@ekr can you make that into a PR?

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Tiesel" Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] introduce a version alias mechanism (#2573) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cac7d8c52492_582c3fd147ad45b411001f"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: philsbln X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2019 11:10:08 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cac7d8c52492_582c3fd147ad45b411001f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit philsbln commented on this pull request. I just realised that requiring the server to announce (some of the) version aliases over the whole lifetime may give us downgrade protection for free. That also allows us to keep version alias and version downgrade protection separate. > - +## Version Aliases + +In order to avoid ossification of the version number defined by this draft, +servers announce a list of version numbers that they interpret as an alias for +the version number used in this draft. Alias versions MUST NOT be a reserved +version. Servers SHOULD send at least one version alias, and SHOULD frequently +change the value that they announce. Each version alias contains a lifetime, +which indicates how long the server will accept this version alias. It also +contains an initial salt, which is used instead of the initial salt as defined +in section 5.2 of {{QUIC-TLS}}. The list of version aliases is sent in the +server's Transport Parameters (see {{transport-parameter-definitions}}). + +Clients SHOULD remember the aliases and use it for subsequent connections to the +same server in the future. This applies to both 0-RTT connection as well as +connections that don't use 0-RTT. We should add a note that Version Aliases must not be advertised during version negotiation ```suggestion Version aliases MUST NOT be advertised in version negotiation Packets to avoid conflicts with future versions and experiments. ``` > @@ -4115,6 +4130,25 @@ preferred_address (0x000d): ~~~ {: #fig-preferred-address title="Preferred Address format"} +version_aliases (0x000e): + +: A list of version numbers that the server accepts as an alias for the + currently used versions. This transport parameter is only sent by the server. + Every version alias contains a lifetime in milliseconds. The alias is only valid + for that lifetime, clients MUST NOT use it after expiry. + Should we require the server to announce (some) of the version aliases during their whole lifetime to enable the client to detect downgrade attacks? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2573#pullrequestreview-224333650 ----==_mimepart_5cac7d8c52492_582c3fd147ad45b411001f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@philsbln commented on this pull request.

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I just realised that requiring the server to announce (some of the) ve= rsion aliases over the whole lifetime may give us downgrade protection fo= r free. That also allows us to keep version alias and version downgrade p= rotection separate.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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+In order to avoid ossification of the version number defined by this dra=
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+servers announce a list of version numbers that they interpret as an ali=
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+the version number used in this draft. Alias versions MUST NOT be a rese=
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+Clients SHOULD remember the aliases and use it for subsequent connection=
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+connections that don't use 0-RTT.=0D
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We should add a note that Version Aliases must not be advertised durin= g version negotiation

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+Version aliases MUST NOT be advertised in version negotiation Packets to=
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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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+version_aliases (0x000e):=0D
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+  currently used versions. This transport parameter is only sent by the =
server.=0D
+  Every version alias contains a lifetime in milliseconds. The alias is =
only valid=0D
+  for that lifetime, clients MUST NOT use it after expiry.=0D
+=0D
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Should we require the server to announce (some) of the version aliases= during their whole lifetime to enable the client to detect downgrade att= acks?

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Yes, my view is that #2543 and the corresponding mailing list thread (https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/quic/qLx9IncF8iV-37IJ6H0TM8hjP28) covers this issue. They discuss about unlinkability between the tokens issued by a server.

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----==_mimepart_5cac9272ed05e_63603fad6e4d45bc565049-- From nobody Tue Apr 9 06:43:56 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70B471202EC for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2019 06:43:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jo5ALEiGdzNA for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2019 06:43:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-12.smtp.github.com (out-12.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 84D301201B9 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2019 06:43:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2019 06:43:52 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554817432; bh=PrzQuk1vO/0yYPewZA0wOqL83WNeEcTB8OtjjuroNvw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ASH/jytRc4lYX3OcyTjkyNq+fScgGbio9IUaPRw+Nh0Z4zsTTJv+OMoRHnESdEYYI zeGxAi7IVh4Kx8SG/7uOZPGUcu0FLZE/cOBvc3Cp/qiWpoVao58lqYZWvT2VWO5j// 87Nb92Mc/baBsGv/Pu0f82SnzGt80hSMD2T9m4FE= From: Marcus Ihlar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Updated spinbit text (#2564) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5caca198c6285_5dce3fa8b4cd45b484478"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ihlar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2019 13:43:55 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5caca198c6285_5dce3fa8b4cd45b484478 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ihlar commented on this pull request. > +the spin bit on a randomly chosen fraction of connections. The random selection +process SHOULD be designed such that on average the spin bit is disabled for at +least one eighth of network paths. The selection process should be externally +unpredictable but consistent for any given combination of source and destination +address and port. The selection process performed at the beginning of the +connection SHOULD be applied for all paths used by the connection. + +In case multiple connections share the same five-tuple, i.e. same source and +destination IP address and UDP port the setting of the spin bit needs to be +coordinated across all connections to ensure a clear signal to any on path +measurement point, however that might not be feasible. + +When the spin bit is disabled, endpoints MAY set the spin bit to any value, and +MUST accept any incoming value. It is RECOMMENDED that they set the spin bit to +a random value either chosen independently for each packet, or chosen +independently for each path and kept constant for that path. I do agree with Mirja that it would be nice to recommend per-connection random, but I don't have a strong opinion as I'll have to expect per packet random regardless. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2564#discussion_r273498143 ----==_mimepart_5caca198c6285_5dce3fa8b4cd45b484478 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@ihlar commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +the spin bit on a randomly chosen fraction of connections. The random selection
+process SHOULD be designed such that on average the spin bit is disabled for at
+least one eighth of network paths. The selection process should be externally
+unpredictable but consistent for any given combination of source and destination
+address and port. The selection process performed at the beginning of the
+connection SHOULD be applied for all paths used by the connection.
+
+In case multiple connections share the same five-tuple, i.e. same source and
+destination IP address and UDP port the setting of the spin bit needs to be
+coordinated across all connections to ensure a clear signal to any on path
+measurement point, however that might not be feasible.
+
+When the spin bit is disabled, endpoints MAY set the spin bit to any value, and
+MUST accept any incoming value. It is RECOMMENDED that they set the spin bit to
+a random value either chosen independently for each packet, or chosen
+independently for each path and kept constant for that path.

I do agree with Mirja that it would be nice to recommend per-connection random, but I don't have a strong opinion as I'll have to expect per packet random regardless.

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@ihlar commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +is available after version negotiation and connection establishment are
+completed. On-path measurement and use of the latency spin bit is further
+discussed in {{QUIC-MANAGEABILITY}}.
+
+The spin bit is an OPTIONAL feature of QUIC. A QUIC stack that chooses to
+support the spin bit MUST implement it as specified in this document.
+
+Each endpoint unilaterally decides if the spin bit is enabled or disabled for a
+connection. Implementations MUST allow administrators of clients and servers
+to disable the spin bit either globally or on a per-connection basis. Even when
+the spin bit is not disabled by the administrator implementations MUST disable
+the spin bit on a randomly chosen fraction of connections. The random selection
+process SHOULD be designed such that on average the spin bit is disabled for at
+least one eighth of network paths. The selection process should be externally
+unpredictable but consistent for any given combination of source and destination
+address and port. The selection process performed at the beginning of the

There was a suggestion to keep decisions consistent for a given path (client - server connection). However, re-reading that discussion, it looks like it's both over engineering and a potential privacy issue.
I'm fine with simply stating that spinning is disabled for 1/8th of connections.

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@ihlar commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +only present in the short packet header, since it is possible to measure the
+initial RTT of a connection by observing the handshake. Therefore, the spin bit
+is available after version negotiation and connection establishment are
+completed. On-path measurement and use of the latency spin bit is further
+discussed in {{QUIC-MANAGEABILITY}}.
+
+The spin bit is an OPTIONAL feature of QUIC. A QUIC stack that chooses to
+support the spin bit MUST implement it as specified in this document.
+
+Each endpoint unilaterally decides if the spin bit is enabled or disabled for a
+connection. Implementations MUST allow administrators of clients and servers
+to disable the spin bit either globally or on a per-connection basis. Even when
+the spin bit is not disabled by the administrator implementations MUST disable
+the spin bit on a randomly chosen fraction of connections. The random selection
+process SHOULD be designed such that on average the spin bit is disabled for at
+least one eighth of network paths. The selection process should be externally

Agree, will change to connections.

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The random selection +process SHOULD be designed such that on average the spin bit is disabled for at +least one eighth of network paths. The selection process should be externally +unpredictable but consistent for any given combination of source and destination +address and port. The selection process performed at the beginning of the +connection SHOULD be applied for all paths used by the connection. + +In case multiple connections share the same five-tuple, i.e. same source and +destination IP address and UDP port the setting of the spin bit needs to be +coordinated across all connections to ensure a clear signal to any on path +measurement point, however that might not be feasible. + +When the spin bit is disabled, endpoints MAY set the spin bit to any value, and +MUST accept any incoming value. It is RECOMMENDED that they set the spin bit to +a random value either chosen independently for each packet, or chosen +independently for each path and kept constant for that path. In the network you have to handle both but per-packet randomness may be harder to filter ou, while always 1 or 0 is a clear signal. Especially if you look at aggregates too much per-packet randomness could render the whole signal useless, therefore I think recommending to do the right thing is important here, given this document is probably what implementers read. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2564#discussion_r273517181 ----==_mimepart_5cacaa68d34d9_63033fb0520d45c0102253b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +the spin bit on a randomly chosen fraction of connections. The random selection
+process SHOULD be designed such that on average the spin bit is disabled for at
+least one eighth of network paths. The selection process should be externally
+unpredictable but consistent for any given combination of source and destination
+address and port. The selection process performed at the beginning of the
+connection SHOULD be applied for all paths used by the connection.
+
+In case multiple connections share the same five-tuple, i.e. same source and
+destination IP address and UDP port the setting of the spin bit needs to be
+coordinated across all connections to ensure a clear signal to any on path
+measurement point, however that might not be feasible.
+
+When the spin bit is disabled, endpoints MAY set the spin bit to any value, and
+MUST accept any incoming value. It is RECOMMENDED that they set the spin bit to
+a random value either chosen independently for each packet, or chosen
+independently for each path and kept constant for that path.

In the network you have to handle both but per-packet randomness may be harder to filter ou, while always 1 or 0 is a clear signal. Especially if you look at aggregates too much per-packet randomness could render the whole signal useless, therefore I think recommending to do the right thing is important here, given this document is probably what implementers read.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +is available after version negotiation and connection establishment are
+completed. On-path measurement and use of the latency spin bit is further
+discussed in {{QUIC-MANAGEABILITY}}.
+
+The spin bit is an OPTIONAL feature of QUIC. A QUIC stack that chooses to
+support the spin bit MUST implement it as specified in this document.
+
+Each endpoint unilaterally decides if the spin bit is enabled or disabled for a
+connection. Implementations MUST allow administrators of clients and servers
+to disable the spin bit either globally or on a per-connection basis. Even when
+the spin bit is not disabled by the administrator implementations MUST disable
+the spin bit on a randomly chosen fraction of connections. The random selection
+process SHOULD be designed such that on average the spin bit is disabled for at
+least one eighth of network paths. The selection process should be externally
+unpredictable but consistent for any given combination of source and destination
+address and port. The selection process performed at the beginning of the

I'm fine with simply stating that spinning is disabled for 1/8th of connections.

I know why it is there, but does the text have any motivation for having this 1/8 rule?

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----==_mimepart_5cacb1dc8f290_59763f9efd2d45c0664331-- From nobody Tue Apr 9 07:55:03 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE59E12085A for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2019 07:55:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8tBGh6cRz1Wi for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2019 07:54:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o7.sgmail.github.com (o7.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7FD8E120405 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2019 07:54:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=NlgGg+pwGieHW6G+9/FJReOf2ko=; b=jEapgbss6GS77Aqj BEv3AhlT+/F7n2oMO49H7K0xue0CLT6CzsHzq91li0AKfg5nvuxbYoCs0P7CHlmQ Sx3p02cBAiu0y/EOwmJRcFPiGAAqYX7LJ7WYvIL8i5PZc4E9FI5UjFCqD2Ez9aj5 XB3EH/CpuNG6Ru7K2RYs1rGPPf4= Received: by filter1348p1mdw1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter1348p1mdw1-5366-5CACB240-2F 2019-04-09 14:54:56.950949875 +0000 UTC m=+53001.969334911 Received: from github-lowworker-819f804.cp1-iad.github.net (unknown [192.30.252.44]) by ismtpd0010p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id pxHN7dNhTz2L0ShW9YS6Nw for ; Tue, 09 Apr 2019 14:54:56.917 +0000 (UTC) Received: from github.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by github-lowworker-819f804.cp1-iad.github.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD17D36007F for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2019 07:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2019 14:54:57 +0000 (UTC) From: Marcus Ihlar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Updated spinbit text (#2564) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cacb240db87e_6db63fe4a44d45b8382115"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ihlar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak2sWORth9hzdOd/IfToG4p7R1tVC3/9Jg4vBs x9a91a6WfZU6k0FQLEuQ7iQqCYlAleILkw4EqGRw8VWRk7hePlWUAQEP4JtObein/ls7Ix9nGoaudH yXudjwIC37D4DIB9bjbppCm9RiqEtXLzX1VcxXgqTzGvqwHcmJQMgxfiAY/DPXoSyHjQWOjQqsgTVO s= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2019 14:55:02 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cacb240db87e_6db63fe4a44d45b8382115 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ihlar commented on this pull request. > +the spin bit on a randomly chosen fraction of connections. The random selection +process SHOULD be designed such that on average the spin bit is disabled for at +least one eighth of network paths. The selection process should be externally +unpredictable but consistent for any given combination of source and destination +address and port. The selection process performed at the beginning of the +connection SHOULD be applied for all paths used by the connection. + +In case multiple connections share the same five-tuple, i.e. same source and +destination IP address and UDP port the setting of the spin bit needs to be +coordinated across all connections to ensure a clear signal to any on path +measurement point, however that might not be feasible. + +When the spin bit is disabled, endpoints MAY set the spin bit to any value, and +MUST accept any incoming value. It is RECOMMENDED that they set the spin bit to +a random value either chosen independently for each packet, or chosen +independently for each path and kept constant for that path. Good point, what about: "When the spin bit is disabled, endpoints MAY set the spin bit to any value, and MUST ignore any incoming value. It is RECOMMENDED that endpoints set the spin bit to a random value chosen independently for each path for a connection." -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2564#discussion_r273534561 ----==_mimepart_5cacb240db87e_6db63fe4a44d45b8382115 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@ihlar commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +the spin bit on a randomly chosen fraction of connections. The random selection
+process SHOULD be designed such that on average the spin bit is disabled for at
+least one eighth of network paths. The selection process should be externally
+unpredictable but consistent for any given combination of source and destination
+address and port. The selection process performed at the beginning of the
+connection SHOULD be applied for all paths used by the connection.
+
+In case multiple connections share the same five-tuple, i.e. same source and
+destination IP address and UDP port the setting of the spin bit needs to be
+coordinated across all connections to ensure a clear signal to any on path
+measurement point, however that might not be feasible.
+
+When the spin bit is disabled, endpoints MAY set the spin bit to any value, and
+MUST accept any incoming value. It is RECOMMENDED that they set the spin bit to
+a random value either chosen independently for each packet, or chosen
+independently for each path and kept constant for that path.

Good point, what about:
"When the spin bit is disabled, endpoints MAY set the spin bit to any value, and MUST ignore any incoming value. It is RECOMMENDED that endpoints set the spin bit to a random value chosen independently for each path for a connection."

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On-path measurement and use of the latency spin bit is further +discussed in {{QUIC-MANAGEABILITY}}. + +The spin bit is an OPTIONAL feature of QUIC. A QUIC stack that chooses to +support the spin bit MUST implement it as specified in this document. + +Each endpoint unilaterally decides if the spin bit is enabled or disabled for a +connection. Implementations MUST allow administrators of clients and servers +to disable the spin bit either globally or on a per-connection basis. Even when +the spin bit is not disabled by the administrator implementations MUST disable +the spin bit on a randomly chosen fraction of connections. The random selection +process SHOULD be designed such that on average the spin bit is disabled for at +least one eighth of network paths. The selection process should be externally +unpredictable but consistent for any given combination of source and destination +address and port. The selection process performed at the beginning of the > > I'm fine with simply stating that spinning is disabled for 1/8th of connections. > > I know why it is there, but does the text have any motivation for having this 1/8 rule? Good point, could add something like this: "... The random selection process SHOULD be designed such that on average the spin bit is disabled for at least one eighth of connections. Disabling the spin bit for a large enough fraction of connections makes it difficult for an observer to distinguish between connections that disable the spin bit explicitly or by random selection. " -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2564#discussion_r273542272 ----==_mimepart_5cacb5cb2da5b_55983fb766cd45bc177063 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@ihlar commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +is available after version negotiation and connection establishment are
+completed. On-path measurement and use of the latency spin bit is further
+discussed in {{QUIC-MANAGEABILITY}}.
+
+The spin bit is an OPTIONAL feature of QUIC. A QUIC stack that chooses to
+support the spin bit MUST implement it as specified in this document.
+
+Each endpoint unilaterally decides if the spin bit is enabled or disabled for a
+connection. Implementations MUST allow administrators of clients and servers
+to disable the spin bit either globally or on a per-connection basis. Even when
+the spin bit is not disabled by the administrator implementations MUST disable
+the spin bit on a randomly chosen fraction of connections. The random selection
+process SHOULD be designed such that on average the spin bit is disabled for at
+least one eighth of network paths. The selection process should be externally
+unpredictable but consistent for any given combination of source and destination
+address and port. The selection process performed at the beginning of the

I'm fine with simply stating that spinning is disabled for 1/8th of connections.

I know why it is there, but does the text have any motivation for having this 1/8 rule?
Good point, could add something like this:
"... The random selection process SHOULD be designed such that on average the spin bit is disabled for at least one eighth of connections. Disabling the spin bit for a large enough fraction of connections makes it difficult for an observer to distinguish between connections that disable the spin bit explicitly or by random selection. "

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +is available after version negotiation and connection establishment are
+completed. On-path measurement and use of the latency spin bit is further
+discussed in {{QUIC-MANAGEABILITY}}.
+
+The spin bit is an OPTIONAL feature of QUIC. A QUIC stack that chooses to
+support the spin bit MUST implement it as specified in this document.
+
+Each endpoint unilaterally decides if the spin bit is enabled or disabled for a
+connection. Implementations MUST allow administrators of clients and servers
+to disable the spin bit either globally or on a per-connection basis. Even when
+the spin bit is not disabled by the administrator implementations MUST disable
+the spin bit on a randomly chosen fraction of connections. The random selection
+process SHOULD be designed such that on average the spin bit is disabled for at
+least one eighth of network paths. The selection process should be externally
+unpredictable but consistent for any given combination of source and destination
+address and port. The selection process performed at the beginning of the

I'd suggest also adding "for privacy reasons"

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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Apr 9 12:47:16 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCDE5120236 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2019 12:47:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fWYhRl4CZZij for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2019 12:47:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o10.sgmail.github.com (o10.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 91B9612016A for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2019 12:47:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=aak7x62MlOl9avzIoIw0YQDlVNU=; b=vPdCuSk2dkXoxquv bRvW4yWJ8mldaAeb87GDUlXhSlfkiOwghNA7JAXpuLhjA6Z82bCkESoEAcA/gubD /LcHWPs8HOySpB4RnQ0UMM7hV6rvbBXmssgv+/VnJiMRQeITypxi+F6VZrfTdOrv dTRnl3hBYzIRIZ0EvWXGSK6o/J4= Received: by filter1477p1mdw1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter1477p1mdw1-21654-5CACF6BE-18 2019-04-09 19:47:10.71884813 +0000 UTC m=+70625.936400173 Received: from github-lowworker-39ccb07.cp1-iad.github.net (unknown [192.30.252.40]) by ismtpd0024p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id kA3pPEHHRyK84mJSBU8wyw for ; Tue, 09 Apr 2019 19:47:10.565 +0000 (UTC) Received: from github.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by github-lowworker-39ccb07.cp1-iad.github.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F432400BD2 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2019 12:47:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2019 19:47:10 +0000 (UTC) From: Erik Sy Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Construction of address validation token (#2587) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cacf6be9d8cf_78aa3feff80d45bc183258"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kirsey X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak3GqA+GxC1M10fD8UzinnwrVbCF5W3xKjwYom tmCQMlPsQyyqq2J4lpMULhYP7aCG/lMaumLVgqjt7+uGzfQN1lJFKUg2PwA/oq5owZprhcr34cK5ju TvcZszlj5sdhTn4w/fPzGXOrIllDZjpt+DAVllKfY6cAXvnrLysooS/mAw== Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2019 19:47:15 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cacf6be9d8cf_78aa3feff80d45bc183258 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit No, #2543 does not cover this particular point. #2543 makes the point that a network observer should not be able to derive information such as a timestamp from observed tokens. However, this issue says that the construction of the token should not be deterministic. To illustrate this problem, assume that the token is more or less the hash of the client's source address. Thus, the client receives upon repeat connections the each time the same token, if its source address is identical. As a result, even if the client uses each token only a single time the corresponding connections established with these tokens can be correlated to each other by a network observer. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2587#issuecomment-481407927 ----==_mimepart_5cacf6be9d8cf_78aa3feff80d45bc183258 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

No, #2543 does not cover this particular point. #2543 makes the point = that a network observer should not be able to derive information such as a = timestamp from observed tokens.

However, this issue says that the construction of the token should not b= e deterministic. To illustrate this problem, assume that the token is more = or less the hash of the client's source address. Thus, the client receives = upon repeat connections the each time the same token, if its source address= is identical. As a result, even if the client uses each token only a singl= e time the corresponding connections established with these tokens can be c= orrelated to each other by a network observer.

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If no previous RTT is available, or if the network changes, the initial RTT SHOULD be set to 500ms, resulting in a 1 second initial handshake timeout as recommended in -{{?RFC6298}}. When an acknowledgement is received, a new RTT is computed and the -timer SHOULD be set for twice the newly computed smoothed RTT. +{{?RFC6298}}. When the first acknowledgement is received, an RTT is computed and +the timer SHOULD be set for twice the newly computed RTT. SG, removed. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2590#discussion_r273692311 ----==_mimepart_5cad047d8725_70593f96488d45b448188 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -442,13 +442,17 @@ connections over the same network SHOULD use the previous connection's final
 smoothed RTT value as the resumed connection's initial RTT.  If no previous RTT
 is available, or if the network changes, the initial RTT SHOULD be set to 500ms,
 resulting in a 1 second initial handshake timeout as recommended in
-{{?RFC6298}}. When an acknowledgement is received, a new RTT is computed and the
-timer SHOULD be set for twice the newly computed smoothed RTT.
+{{?RFC6298}}. When the first acknowledgement is received, an RTT is computed and
+the timer SHOULD be set for twice the newly computed RTT.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  
-When a crypto packet is sent, the sender MUST set a timer for the crypto
-timeout period.  This timer MUST be updated when a new crypto packet is sent.
-Upon timeout, the sender MUST retransmit all unacknowledged CRYPTO data if
-possible.
+When a crypto packet is sent, the sender MUST set a timer for twice the smoothed
+RTT.  This timer MUST be updated when a new crypto packet is sent and when
+an acknowledgement is received which computes a new RTT sample. Upon timeout,
+the sender MUST retransmit all unacknowledged CRYPTO data if possible.

It can't if the anti-amplification limit limits it.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1114,7 +1117,8 @@ SetLossDetectionTimer():
     loss_detection_timer.update(loss_time)
     return
 
-  if (crypto packets are in flight):
+  if (crypto packets are in flight &&
+      crypto data to send):

It's supposed to mean that there's unacknowledged crypto data. Should I say "unacknowledged crypto data" instead?

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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Apr 9 15:03:16 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 963E3120485 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2019 15:03:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VuCKDIP_Z6eN for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2019 15:03:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-14.smtp.github.com (out-14.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0EC2E120490 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2019 15:03:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2019 15:03:03 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554847383; bh=sNCu7iMmRs9afcvP9Zeb+tvd9K3y9fnBgSjR9HnnXL4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=0beWlARvEI/lk8eO0/a0Rwf/bx4H/r9sL4nBXGP4tLI8WUY9pt9yzAV4XTBMJU/a8 WCpBf24mKpZORwBlDINDZxRLDw6Jo71yKJrFybtjmD697R4ogDCvHNg+ooXCCj/wSL 5gQTSS6YTidI639TPNOsmlllbLM6KZzKdR+aMZSs= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rewrite of RTT estimation section (#2592) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cad16972c8e0_163d3fbcf98d45b4135693"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2019 22:03:15 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cad16972c8e0_163d3fbcf98d45b4135693 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ianswett commented on this pull request. Thanks for the substantial rework, some comments. > @@ -226,24 +226,25 @@ QUIC supports many ACK ranges, opposed to TCP's 3 SACK ranges. In high loss environments, this speeds recovery, reduces spurious retransmits, and ensures forward progress without relying on timeouts. -### Explicit Correction For Delayed ACKs +### Explicit Correction For Delayed ACKs {#ack-delay} Actually, ACKs are delayed by the receiver in this case and this whole section talks about the ACK frame, which makes sense to me. > -# Generating Acknowledgements - -QUIC SHOULD delay sending acknowledgements in response to packets, but MUST NOT -excessively delay acknowledgements of ack-eliciting packets. Specifically, -implementations MUST attempt to enforce a maximum ack delay to avoid causing -the peer spurious timeouts. The maximum ack delay is communicated in the -`max_ack_delay` transport parameter and the default value is 25ms. +# Generating Acknowledgements {#generating-acks} Sidenote: Are we ever going to move this to transport? > -RTT when multiple such ACK frames are received within an RTT. When multiple -samples are generated within an RTT, the smoothed RTT and RTT variance could -retain inadequate history, as suggested in {{?RFC6298}}. Changing these -computations is currently an open research question. - -min_rtt is the minimum RTT measured over the connection, prior to adjusting by -ack delay. Ignoring ack delay for min RTT prevents intentional or unintentional -underestimation of min RTT, which in turn prevents underestimating smoothed RTT. - -A sender calculates both smoothed RTT (SRTT) and RTT variance (RTTVAR) similar -to those specified in {{?RFC6298}}. Note that computing smoothed_rtt does not -use ack_delay for the first RTT sample, because doing so would result in a -smoothed_rtt that is smaller than the min_rtt. - -On every newly acknowledged ack-eliciting largest acked: +## Measuring and Reporting Host Delay {#host-delay} Would "receiver delay" be more accurate? I know I've heard the term host delay before, but I thought it usually implied unintentional delays(ie: processing time, etc), not intentional delays like delayed ACKs? > -retain inadequate history, as suggested in {{?RFC6298}}. Changing these -computations is currently an open research question. - -min_rtt is the minimum RTT measured over the connection, prior to adjusting by -ack delay. Ignoring ack delay for min RTT prevents intentional or unintentional -underestimation of min RTT, which in turn prevents underestimating smoothed RTT. - -A sender calculates both smoothed RTT (SRTT) and RTT variance (RTTVAR) similar -to those specified in {{?RFC6298}}. Note that computing smoothed_rtt does not -use ack_delay for the first RTT sample, because doing so would result in a -smoothed_rtt that is smaller than the min_rtt. - -On every newly acknowledged ack-eliciting largest acked: +## Measuring and Reporting Host Delay {#host-delay} + +An endpoint measures the delay incurred between when a packet is received and endpoint -> receiver? > -ack delay. Ignoring ack delay for min RTT prevents intentional or unintentional -underestimation of min RTT, which in turn prevents underestimating smoothed RTT. - -A sender calculates both smoothed RTT (SRTT) and RTT variance (RTTVAR) similar -to those specified in {{?RFC6298}}. Note that computing smoothed_rtt does not -use ack_delay for the first RTT sample, because doing so would result in a -smoothed_rtt that is smaller than the min_rtt. - -On every newly acknowledged ack-eliciting largest acked: +## Measuring and Reporting Host Delay {#host-delay} + +An endpoint measures the delay incurred between when a packet is received and +when the corresponding acknowledgment is sent. The endpoint encodes this host +delay for the largest acknowledged packet in the Ack Delay field of an ACK frame +(see Section 19.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}). This allows the receiver of the ACK +to adjust for any host delays - importantly, for delayed acknowledgements - when Can you avoid ' - ' with ", which is particularly important for delayed acknowledgements," > -A sender calculates both smoothed RTT (SRTT) and RTT variance (RTTVAR) similar -to those specified in {{?RFC6298}}. Note that computing smoothed_rtt does not -use ack_delay for the first RTT sample, because doing so would result in a -smoothed_rtt that is smaller than the min_rtt. - -On every newly acknowledged ack-eliciting largest acked: +## Measuring and Reporting Host Delay {#host-delay} + +An endpoint measures the delay incurred between when a packet is received and +when the corresponding acknowledgment is sent. The endpoint encodes this host +delay for the largest acknowledged packet in the Ack Delay field of an ACK frame +(see Section 19.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}). This allows the receiver of the ACK +to adjust for any host delays - importantly, for delayed acknowledgements - when +estimating the path RTT. In certain deployments, a packet might be held in the +OS kernel or elsewhere on the host before being processed by the QUIC +stack. Where possible, an endpoint SHOULD include these delays when populating Based on my experience, I might be inclined towards a MAY. Using receive timestamps creates as many(or more) complexities as it solves. > -On every newly acknowledged ack-eliciting largest acked: +## Measuring and Reporting Host Delay {#host-delay} + +An endpoint measures the delay incurred between when a packet is received and +when the corresponding acknowledgment is sent. The endpoint encodes this host +delay for the largest acknowledged packet in the Ack Delay field of an ACK frame +(see Section 19.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}). This allows the receiver of the ACK +to adjust for any host delays - importantly, for delayed acknowledgements - when +estimating the path RTT. In certain deployments, a packet might be held in the +OS kernel or elsewhere on the host before being processed by the QUIC +stack. Where possible, an endpoint SHOULD include these delays when populating +the Ack Delay field in an ACK frame. + +An endpoint MUST NOT excessively delay acknowledgements of ack-eliciting +packets. The maximum ack delay is communicated in the max_ack_delay transport +parameter, see Section 18.1 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}. max_ack_delay implies an ```suggestion parameter, see Section 18.1 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}. max_ack_delay specifies an ``` > +OS kernel or elsewhere on the host before being processed by the QUIC +stack. Where possible, an endpoint SHOULD include these delays when populating +the Ack Delay field in an ACK frame. + +An endpoint MUST NOT excessively delay acknowledgements of ack-eliciting +packets. The maximum ack delay is communicated in the max_ack_delay transport +parameter, see Section 18.1 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}. max_ack_delay implies an +explicit contract: an endpoint promises to never delay acknowledgments of an +ack-eliciting packet by more than the indicated value. If it does, any excess +accrues to the RTT estimate and could result in spurious retransmissions from +the peer. + + +# Estimating the Round-Trip Time {#compute-rtt} + +At a high level, an endpoint measures the time from when a packet was sent to ```suggestion An endpoint measures the time from when a packet was sent to ``` > ~~~ latest_rtt = ack_time - send_time_of_largest_acked ~~~ -First RTT sample: +An endpoint uses only locally observed times in generating RTT samples and does I'm confused about where this is going, since we're going to adjust later on? > ~~~ latest_rtt = ack_time - send_time_of_largest_acked ~~~ -First RTT sample: +An endpoint uses only locally observed times in generating RTT samples and does +not adjust for any host delays reported by the peer ({{host-delay}}). + +A peer reports host delays for only the largest acknowledged packet in an ACK +frame, which is assumed by subsequent computations of smoothed_rtt and rttvar in I'm unclear what the latter half of this sentence means? Maybe remove it? > ~~~ latest_rtt = ack_time - send_time_of_largest_acked ~~~ -First RTT sample: +An endpoint uses only locally observed times in generating RTT samples and does +not adjust for any host delays reported by the peer ({{host-delay}}). + +A peer reports host delays for only the largest acknowledged packet in an ACK +frame, which is assumed by subsequent computations of smoothed_rtt and rttvar in +adjusting for host delays. As a result, an RTT sample is only generated using +the largest acknowledged packet in the received ACK frame. + +To avoid generating multiple RTT samples using the same packet, an ACK frame +SHOULD NOT be used to update RTT estimates if it does not newly acknowledge the You say this two different ways, which are subtly different. Above, you say the largest acked needs to be larger. Here you say it needs to be newly acknowledged. I think the latter is more correct, but we should be consistent. > ~~~ latest_rtt = ack_time - send_time_of_largest_acked ~~~ -First RTT sample: +An endpoint uses only locally observed times in generating RTT samples and does +not adjust for any host delays reported by the peer ({{host-delay}}). + +A peer reports host delays for only the largest acknowledged packet in an ACK +frame, which is assumed by subsequent computations of smoothed_rtt and rttvar in +adjusting for host delays. As a result, an RTT sample is only generated using +the largest acknowledged packet in the received ACK frame. + +To avoid generating multiple RTT samples using the same packet, an ACK frame +SHOULD NOT be used to update RTT estimates if it does not newly acknowledge the +largest acknowledged packet. + +An RTT sample MUST NOT be generated on receiving an ACK frame that does not +newly acknowledge at least one ack-eliciting packet. A peer does not send an peer -> receiver? Also, this paragraph could be a bit clearer, since I think there's an important point here and it may not be clear to all readers. > // Based on {{?RFC6298}}. if (smoothed_rtt == 0): - smoothed_rtt = latest_rtt + smoothed_rtt = adjusted_rtt I'd suggest moving the adjusted_rtt calculation into the else and using latest_rtt here? If not, I'd ensure smoothed_rtt and rttvar are set as a function of the same field, not one based on adjusted_rtt and the other latest_rtt. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2592#pullrequestreview-223838768 ----==_mimepart_5cad16972c8e0_163d3fbcf98d45b4135693 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@ianswett commented on this pull request.

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Thanks for the substantial rework, some comments.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

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Sidenote: Are we ever going to move this to transport?

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Would "receiver delay" be more accurate? I know I've heard the term h= ost delay before, but I thought it usually implied unintentional delays(i= e: processing time, etc), not intentional delays like delayed ACKs?

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+At a high level, an endpoint measures the time from when a packet was se=
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=0D =E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D 
-At a high level, an endpoint measures the tim=
e from when a packet was sent to=0D
+An endpoint measures the time from when a packet was sent to=0D
=0D =0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

=0D 
>  ~~~=0D
 latest_rtt =3D ack_time - send_time_of_largest_acked=0D
 ~~~=0D
 =0D
-First RTT sample:=0D
+An endpoint uses only locally observed times in generating RTT samples a=
nd does=0D
=0D

I'm confused about where this is going, since we're going to adjust la= ter on?

=0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

=0D 
>  ~~~=0D
 latest_rtt =3D ack_time - send_time_of_largest_acked=0D
 ~~~=0D
 =0D
-First RTT sample:=0D
+An endpoint uses only locally observed times in generating RTT samples a=
nd does=0D
+not adjust for any host delays reported by the peer ({{host-delay}}).=0D=

+=0D
+A peer reports host delays for only the largest acknowledged packet in a=
n ACK=0D
+frame, which is assumed by subsequent computations of smoothed_rtt and r=
ttvar in=0D
=0D

I'm unclear what the latter half of this sentence means? Maybe remove= it?

=0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

=0D 
>  ~~~=0D
 latest_rtt =3D ack_time - send_time_of_largest_acked=0D
 ~~~=0D
 =0D
-First RTT sample:=0D
+An endpoint uses only locally observed times in generating RTT samples a=
nd does=0D
+not adjust for any host delays reported by the peer ({{host-delay}}).=0D=

+=0D
+A peer reports host delays for only the largest acknowledged packet in a=
n ACK=0D
+frame, which is assumed by subsequent computations of smoothed_rtt and r=
ttvar in=0D
+adjusting for host delays.  As a result, an RTT sample is only generated=
 using=0D
+the largest acknowledged packet in the received ACK frame.=0D
+=0D
+To avoid generating multiple RTT samples using the same packet, an ACK f=
rame=0D
+SHOULD NOT be used to update RTT estimates if it does not newly acknowle=
dge the=0D
=0D

You say this two different ways, which are subtly different. Above, y= ou say the largest acked needs to be larger. Here you say it needs to be= newly acknowledged. I think the latter is more correct, but we should b= e consistent.

=0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

=0D 
>  ~~~=0D
 latest_rtt =3D ack_time - send_time_of_largest_acked=0D
 ~~~=0D
 =0D
-First RTT sample:=0D
+An endpoint uses only locally observed times in generating RTT samples a=
nd does=0D
+not adjust for any host delays reported by the peer ({{host-delay}}).=0D=

+=0D
+A peer reports host delays for only the largest acknowledged packet in a=
n ACK=0D
+frame, which is assumed by subsequent computations of smoothed_rtt and r=
ttvar in=0D
+adjusting for host delays.  As a result, an RTT sample is only generated=
 using=0D
+the largest acknowledged packet in the received ACK frame.=0D
+=0D
+To avoid generating multiple RTT samples using the same packet, an ACK f=
rame=0D
+SHOULD NOT be used to update RTT estimates if it does not newly acknowle=
dge the=0D
+largest acknowledged packet.=0D
+=0D
+An RTT sample MUST NOT be generated on receiving an ACK frame that does =
not=0D
+newly acknowledge at least one ack-eliciting packet.  A peer does not se=
nd an=0D
=0D

peer -> receiver?

=0D

Also, this paragraph could be a bit clearer, since I think there's an = important point here and it may not be clear to all readers.

=0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

=0D 
>    // Based on {{?RFC6298}}.=0D
   if (smoothed_rtt =3D=3D 0):=0D
-    smoothed_rtt =3D latest_rtt=0D
+    smoothed_rtt =3D adjusted_rtt=0D
=0D

I'd suggest moving the adjusted_rtt calculation into the else and usin= g latest_rtt here? If not, I'd ensure smoothed_rtt and rttvar are set as= a function of the same field, not one based on adjusted_rtt and the othe= r latest_rtt.

=0D =0D

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----==_mimepart_5cad18d48e641_463c3f86310d45c02070f9-- From nobody Tue Apr 9 15:26:35 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE4EC12003F for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2019 15:26:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TBkT0vjdS8Oq for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2019 15:26:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ED162120046 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2019 15:26:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2019 15:26:29 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554848789; bh=duCdl0G3YYzCw1B73NSn9rOcV68rxnukI6gJutWNOYs=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=w3S1crj6ZFHE2SPAjvMc+A8XpoRQlg71sWwIue/Zy8beo8tm6ybIxN9EBQr6sVkPz pHc3TLJM6CEA12q+ur7Bx+g4bLfDq9aJuGiowqsffVY/56NQ/8l0UOUaJ8/JKfyRLL x28O7kCE8+0ghw0mAgIUlVRBf8UIe7J68K31HD2w= From: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] 5329e0: Minor TLS draft editorial corrections Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2019 22:26:35 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/remove-padding-optimization Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: 5329e0ef079ef30e81e99eec1f9a4d9d9ba60179 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5329e0ef079ef30e81e99eec1f9a4d9d9ba60179 Author: martinduke Date: 2019-02-08 (Fri, 08 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Minor TLS draft editorial corrections I am not quite as sure of these, but I believe they match the intent better. Commit: 755559b0e6d3653a6d4e8aaaa841efd795d8df23 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/755559b0e6d3653a6d4e8aaaa841efd795d8df23 Author: martinduke Date: 2019-02-10 (Sun, 10 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Update to reflect reviews Still some points of contention Commit: 83793ef5f0c83635d9bface209af0c2f8d18bfd8 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/83793ef5f0c83635d9bface209af0c2f8d18bfd8 Author: martinduke Date: 2019-02-15 (Fri, 15 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Refer to "installing keys" instead of "rekeying" Per @mIkebishop's advice We're still a little stuck on whether or not QUIC provides a TLS record abstraction. If we can't resolve soon, I'll just separate out that change. 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Log Message: ----------- Jana's suggestion Commit: 8ecbcb2799a9ed27844b476c098328897a334ca3 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8ecbcb2799a9ed27844b476c098328897a334ca3 Author: ianswett Date: 2019-03-09 (Sat, 09 Mar 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Mike's suggestion Commit: 1281676099be89184bd8a85b59600b4142dc3e47 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1281676099be89184bd8a85b59600b4142dc3e47 Author: ianswett Date: 2019-03-13 (Wed, 13 Mar 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Commit: 679bfedb604324fde8488730050b1c16e9698317 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/679bfedb604324fde8488730050b1c16e9698317 Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2019-03-13 (Wed, 13 Mar 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Apply Jana's suggestions from review Co-Authored-By: ghedo Commit: 406beb3a8e8cf75e0b27ba65fcf1fc50cc1b9b80 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draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Add section number to reference (#2525) Commit: 48e017115319bd06237040373329be4b60ac8c5a https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/48e017115319bd06237040373329be4b60ac8c5a Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-03-19 (Tue, 19 Mar 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #2483 from ghedo/alpn_alert Clarify what to do when ALPN negotiation fails Commit: 4456fa89a16ea64e8ab545c4f35dc7c27b7fa129 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4456fa89a16ea64e8ab545c4f35dc7c27b7fa129 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-03-19 (Tue, 19 Mar 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #2499 from quicwg/ianswett-close-max-streams Close the connection if MAX_STREAMS is too large Commit: 320e155ccf6f4e4c3b648b696c418ebfa305d878 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/320e155ccf6f4e4c3b648b696c418ebfa305d878 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-03-20 (Wed, 20 Mar 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Quote brackets. Closes #2517. Commit: c3ea995ab186f5b2e81f396155b0d2891299ad03 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c3ea995ab186f5b2e81f396155b0d2891299ad03 Author: martinduke Date: 2019-03-20 (Wed, 20 Mar 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Many frames have flags in the type now Updating a little old text. Commit: c13a6fd16b15c5335b4c9f2828274212d635850e https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c13a6fd16b15c5335b4c9f2828274212d635850e Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-03-21 (Thu, 21 Mar 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #2532 from martinduke/patch-46 Many frames have flags in the type now Commit: 3c383577676d512c4aba0f9ae7b9f26f9e56967d https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3c383577676d512c4aba0f9ae7b9f26f9e56967d Author: martinduke Date: 2019-03-20 (Wed, 20 Mar 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- In which I surrender I still disagree with the critique, but it is way less important than the rest of the PR. Perhaps someone can show me the error of my ways over some Czech beer. Commit: c8ed4bb6fe0db5c5eb348b4a7d697d27746c4a50 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c8ed4bb6fe0db5c5eb348b4a7d697d27746c4a50 Author: martinduke Date: 2019-03-20 (Wed, 20 Mar 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- disallow port changes on disable_migration Some infrastructures are likely to load balance on port as well as address. Commit: 43a46542cce2a6b5a2797e672a432243cfc10f68 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/43a46542cce2a6b5a2797e672a432243cfc10f68 Author: martinduke Date: 2019-03-20 (Wed, 20 Mar 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Nit in ECN format section missing prepositions Commit: 6270c390c36db9f07475d76a38d1190e24b76fd8 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6270c390c36db9f07475d76a38d1190e24b76fd8 Author: martinduke Date: 2019-03-20 (Wed, 20 Mar 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Clarify meaning of RESET_STREAM Saying it "terminates a stream" dangerously makes it sound like it has the same meaning as HTTP/2, which is false. 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Leave 0x8 open and unreserved so that some future extension document can use it for WebSockets (if they so wish). Commit: 553840d4d755698b00518268dd300a9d186219db https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/553840d4d755698b00518268dd300a9d186219db Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2019-03-26 (Tue, 26 Mar 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Simplify kPersistentThreshold Commit: f506e4b7339efcfa727634c5722f51ae26be7c9f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f506e4b7339efcfa727634c5722f51ae26be7c9f Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2019-03-26 (Tue, 26 Mar 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- nit Commit: 1ffdc072f500a98521db502ae421fa2c20b4569d https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1ffdc072f500a98521db502ae421fa2c20b4569d Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2019-03-26 (Tue, 26 Mar 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- lint Commit: 285d30aa5dc9a1f105ad89b05968ea29343ba38c https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/285d30aa5dc9a1f105ad89b05968ea29343ba38c Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2019-03-26 (Tue, 26 Mar 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #2557 from quicwg/jri/kpersistentthreshold Simplify kPersistentThreshold Commit: 2f8e855c293a6242b6fc598e64798782d04d40e7 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2f8e855c293a6242b6fc598e64798782d04d40e7 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-04-01 (Mon, 01 Apr 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Add normative requirements for processing stateless reset Closes #2471. Commit: a30b6a409cdce7e0e4f3932a3e01835f0360f581 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a30b6a409cdce7e0e4f3932a3e01835f0360f581 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-04-01 (Mon, 01 Apr 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Allow use of long header for stateless reset Commit: 8fb5702968e6f92c12c3abb3010e1cd8e2c9d386 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8fb5702968e6f92c12c3abb3010e1cd8e2c9d386 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-04-01 (Mon, 01 Apr 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Move the mandatory check to the detecting section Commit: 2357cb7576eaa3c25199a081e208c32b1c5f5b28 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2357cb7576eaa3c25199a081e208c32b1c5f5b28 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-04-01 (Mon, 01 Apr 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Use normative language about CID reuse Commit: 8e5ebe2b080b8ec9c247936f2e01b4088160e2a5 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8e5ebe2b080b8ec9c247936f2e01b4088160e2a5 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-04-01 (Mon, 01 Apr 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Revert 2471 changes. This reverts commit 2357cb7576eaa3c25199a081e208c32b1c5f5b28. This reverts commit 8fb5702968e6f92c12c3abb3010e1cd8e2c9d386. This reverts commit a30b6a409cdce7e0e4f3932a3e01835f0360f581. Commit: d425ca263ceb9b2b3866c0f0a7d995f148ae7da6 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d425ca263ceb9b2b3866c0f0a7d995f148ae7da6 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-04-01 (Mon, 01 Apr 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Normative text for 1-RTT before handshake completion Closes #2572. Commit: 3e970d06478c5e7fbc5c831fe49635da374154a8 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3e970d06478c5e7fbc5c831fe49635da374154a8 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-04-01 (Mon, 01 Apr 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- No state transition if RESET_STREAM is suppressed Closes #2558. Commit: 4f4e4d92a2beffee82f60a86692e09fd5bf14dff https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4f4e4d92a2beffee82f60a86692e09fd5bf14dff Author: Alessandro Ghedini Date: 2019-04-02 (Tue, 02 Apr 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Call OnPacketAckedCC() for in-flight packets, not just ack-eliciting (#2584) `OnPacketAcked()` calls `OnPacketAckedCC()` (which decreases `bytes_in_flight`) only when `ack_eliciting` is true, however `OnPacketSentCC()` (which increases `bytes_in_flight`) is called when `in_flight` is true. Additionally, `OnPacketsLost()` decreases `bytes_in_flight` for in-flight lost packets (not just ack-eliciting ones). So it seems to follow that `OnPacketAcked()` should call `OnPacketAckedCC()` for all in-flight packets. Commit: 30c31cf887e2204680c164c23bf12f4aca25772a https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/30c31cf887e2204680c164c23bf12f4aca25772a Author: Alessandro Ghedini Date: 2019-04-02 (Tue, 02 Apr 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Spell 'Application' correctly (#2583) Commit: 13b26072e446e99bf016cf40b9fcf3287d07de66 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/13b26072e446e99bf016cf40b9fcf3287d07de66 Author: ianswett Date: 2019-04-02 (Tue, 02 Apr 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Changes the recommended initial value of initial rtt from 100ms to 500ms, resulting in a 1 second initial handshake timeout, as recommended by RFC6298. Fixes #2184 Commit: d0ce36b283694420be1430db6147eefdb9c809de https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d0ce36b283694420be1430db6147eefdb9c809de Author: ianswett Date: 2019-04-02 (Tue, 02 Apr 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- First handshake timeout at 1 second (#2586) * First handshake timeout at 1 second Changes the recommended initial value of initial rtt from 100ms to 500ms, resulting in a 1 second initial handshake timeout, as recommended by RFC6298. Fixes #2184 * Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Commit: 08defdf76c5fe1ba377f6bb67efd9e2f7bb1294c https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/08defdf76c5fe1ba377f6bb67efd9e2f7bb1294c Author: ianswett Date: 2019-04-02 (Tue, 02 Apr 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Replace recovery epoch with congestion event (#2585) * Replace recovery epoch with congestion event Recovery epoch was undefined and congestion event makes more sense for QUIC. * Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Commit: a45009c5afbc5e1fbc7cf44e5117dfbe32e87e92 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a45009c5afbc5e1fbc7cf44e5117dfbe32e87e92 Author: ianswett Date: 2019-04-02 (Tue, 02 Apr 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Clarify RTT calculations in recovery (#2506) * Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Fixes #2137 * Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md * Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md * Jana's suggestion * Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Commit: f0d0beab55651e2f3afb5d5c419916fbb2b8954f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f0d0beab55651e2f3afb5d5c419916fbb2b8954f Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-04-02 (Tue, 02 Apr 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Clarify final size definition (#2576) Closes #2481. Commit: dc66bc963bf81bc4d3e5b9014ba9a6bd341fedc8 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/dc66bc963bf81bc4d3e5b9014ba9a6bd341fedc8 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-04-02 (Tue, 02 Apr 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Distinguish between reserved versions (#2577) Closes #2540. Commit: 79536d78c137bcfb0afaea078356ca5ff0d7abb8 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/79536d78c137bcfb0afaea078356ca5ff0d7abb8 Author: ianswett Date: 2019-04-04 (Thu, 04 Apr 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Use Congestion Recovery Period in psuedocode (#2588) * Use Congestion Recovery Period in psuedocode Addresses follow-up comments on #2585 * Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md * Remove duplicate comments Commit: a019d3f90727496e4c6560bca26eb126d26761dc https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a019d3f90727496e4c6560bca26eb126d26761dc Author: Alessandro Ghedini Date: 2019-04-08 (Mon, 08 Apr 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Fix formatting of kPacketNumberSpace enum (#2595) Without the newline it doesn't get rendered properly in the HTML. 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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Apr 9 15:29:42 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3661D120321 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2019 15:29:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4HtWl4LKP0S0 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2019 15:29:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-15.smtp.github.com (out-15.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 90B52120100 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2019 15:29:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2019 15:29:38 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554848979; bh=SHlfrU+kgLzplhT5DEOAJNclxzA2BHxOD7afhUU8o4Q=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=LFHZbFsdkxxFWhNYrhvl8KuwGDWwgGaTgKnKeu5P50lSGRWbKFvbKogRUgRk49cna QTtxy5JiBbAZ7+xssud/HWDOTU7MlBypQtRPlnIihA67cQ1bSCkdyOCpFSNTXuJK/O RrLjmOqPGqZ4ehNDzFQm6rBPuNFcEKUoiI2LIHio= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Mandate sending of packets on crypto timeout (#2597) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cad1cd2d7b62_43773fa96b0d45b8209635"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2019 22:29:41 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cad1cd2d7b62_43773fa96b0d45b8209635 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > In order to avoid this causing a handshake deadlock, clients SHOULD send a packet upon a crypto retransmission timeout, as described in [QUIC-RECOVERY]. If the client has no data to retransmit and does not have Handshake keys, it SHOULD send an Initial packet in a UDP datagram of at least 1200 bytes. If the client has Handshake keys, it SHOULD send a Handshake packet. These are all MUST in recovery and the editors discussed this and agreed that these should be MUST too. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2597 ----==_mimepart_5cad1cd2d7b62_43773fa96b0d45b8209635 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

In order to avoid this causing a handshake deadlock, clients SHOULD send a packet upon a crypto retransmission timeout, as described in [QUIC-RECOVERY]. If the client has no data to retransmit and does not have Handshake keys, it SHOULD send an Initial packet in a UDP datagram of at least 1200 bytes. If the client has Handshake keys, it SHOULD send a Handshake packet.

These are all MUST in recovery and the editors discussed this and agreed that these should be MUST too.

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----==_mimepart_5cad1cd2d7b62_43773fa96b0d45b8209635-- From nobody Tue Apr 9 15:32:16 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03AB1120355 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2019 15:32:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26e94P2gJA6j for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2019 15:32:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-15.smtp.github.com (out-15.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2108012034D for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2019 15:32:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2019 15:32:12 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554849132; bh=igi1qkGGURZqixqZLd3PBlGmmlMhzEoOig7uqTvYnH4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ry5VDy9EEW81upm2KLh59uZAxA3l3Yr3J8tzbHB2MbtMaeCJzcyrpLmQ5ziRJQiKg KfP28IJRacftB24SwDgwXsJg3XvZmS7zRMlA8Dg7ihWfxSkUGd3AaV1ubJWCk0Jdph Q+sIzHoSeCMFv1d98ZWH/DYRgNbk1lCXEyn8yPh8= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Explain extraordinary conditions that lead to sending a Handshake packet (#2598) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cad1d6ca2369_44483fceea8d45c01115d2"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2019 22:32:15 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cad1d6ca2369_44483fceea8d45c01115d2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We don't provide examples of the weird cases where you need to send Handshake packets to prevent amplification deadlock. The strangest one is where the client has all Initial data (and therefore has Handshake keys), but never receives a Handshake packet from the server. In this case, the client needs to send a Handshake packet that won't contain ACK or CRYPTO frames. We should explain this in a note. See #2597. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2598 ----==_mimepart_5cad1d6ca2369_44483fceea8d45c01115d2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

We don't provide examples of the weird cases where you need to send Handshake packets to prevent amplification deadlock. The strangest one is where the client has all Initial data (and therefore has Handshake keys), but never receives a Handshake packet from the server. In this case, the client needs to send a Handshake packet that won't contain ACK or CRYPTO frames. We should explain this in a note.

See #2597.

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We don't want to prohibit the use of long headers in other versions - in case they want to share the stateless reset design, but there is no sense in sending long headers.

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You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2600 -- Commit Summary -- * Allow use of long header for stateless reset * Move the mandatory check to the detecting section * Use normative language about CID reuse * a an * Mention retired connection IDs too * Review comments * Mandate the use of short header for stateless reset -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (50) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2600.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2600.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2600 ----==_mimepart_5cad218d43ca2_59513f9c4fcd45bc1471c4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Closes #2599.

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Commit Summary

  • Allow use of long header for stateless reset
  • Move the mandatory check to the detecting section
  • Use normative language about CID reuse
  • a an
  • Mention retired connection IDs too
  • Review comments
  • Mandate the use of short header for stateless reset

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Thanks, Ian -- updated. > -# Generating Acknowledgements - -QUIC SHOULD delay sending acknowledgements in response to packets, but MUST NOT -excessively delay acknowledgements of ack-eliciting packets. Specifically, -implementations MUST attempt to enforce a maximum ack delay to avoid causing -the peer spurious timeouts. The maximum ack delay is communicated in the -`max_ack_delay` transport parameter and the default value is 25ms. +# Generating Acknowledgements {#generating-acks} next PR in progress > -RTT when multiple such ACK frames are received within an RTT. When multiple -samples are generated within an RTT, the smoothed RTT and RTT variance could -retain inadequate history, as suggested in {{?RFC6298}}. Changing these -computations is currently an open research question. - -min_rtt is the minimum RTT measured over the connection, prior to adjusting by -ack delay. Ignoring ack delay for min RTT prevents intentional or unintentional -underestimation of min RTT, which in turn prevents underestimating smoothed RTT. - -A sender calculates both smoothed RTT (SRTT) and RTT variance (RTTVAR) similar -to those specified in {{?RFC6298}}. Note that computing smoothed_rtt does not -use ack_delay for the first RTT sample, because doing so would result in a -smoothed_rtt that is smaller than the min_rtt. - -On every newly acknowledged ack-eliciting largest acked: +## Measuring and Reporting Host Delay {#host-delay} We don't _really_ use sender and receiver terminology, partly because a receiver of STREAM frames is a sender of MAX_STREAM_DATA (et al) frames, which are also ack-eliciting. > -A sender calculates both smoothed RTT (SRTT) and RTT variance (RTTVAR) similar -to those specified in {{?RFC6298}}. Note that computing smoothed_rtt does not -use ack_delay for the first RTT sample, because doing so would result in a -smoothed_rtt that is smaller than the min_rtt. - -On every newly acknowledged ack-eliciting largest acked: +## Measuring and Reporting Host Delay {#host-delay} + +An endpoint measures the delay incurred between when a packet is received and +when the corresponding acknowledgment is sent. The endpoint encodes this host +delay for the largest acknowledged packet in the Ack Delay field of an ACK frame +(see Section 19.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}). This allows the receiver of the ACK +to adjust for any host delays - importantly, for delayed acknowledgements - when +estimating the path RTT. In certain deployments, a packet might be held in the +OS kernel or elsewhere on the host before being processed by the QUIC +stack. Where possible, an endpoint SHOULD include these delays when populating Yeah, this is going to need some more work anyway (#2596), but I've changed it to a MAY. What complexities does it create? > -On every newly acknowledged ack-eliciting largest acked: +## Measuring and Reporting Host Delay {#host-delay} + +An endpoint measures the delay incurred between when a packet is received and +when the corresponding acknowledgment is sent. The endpoint encodes this host +delay for the largest acknowledged packet in the Ack Delay field of an ACK frame +(see Section 19.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}). This allows the receiver of the ACK +to adjust for any host delays - importantly, for delayed acknowledgements - when +estimating the path RTT. In certain deployments, a packet might be held in the +OS kernel or elsewhere on the host before being processed by the QUIC +stack. Where possible, an endpoint SHOULD include these delays when populating +the Ack Delay field in an ACK frame. + +An endpoint MUST NOT excessively delay acknowledgements of ack-eliciting +packets. The maximum ack delay is communicated in the max_ack_delay transport +parameter, see Section 18.1 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}. max_ack_delay implies an I think implies works better here > +OS kernel or elsewhere on the host before being processed by the QUIC +stack. Where possible, an endpoint SHOULD include these delays when populating +the Ack Delay field in an ACK frame. + +An endpoint MUST NOT excessively delay acknowledgements of ack-eliciting +packets. The maximum ack delay is communicated in the max_ack_delay transport +parameter, see Section 18.1 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}. max_ack_delay implies an +explicit contract: an endpoint promises to never delay acknowledgments of an +ack-eliciting packet by more than the indicated value. If it does, any excess +accrues to the RTT estimate and could result in spurious retransmissions from +the peer. + + +# Estimating the Round-Trip Time {#compute-rtt} + +At a high level, an endpoint measures the time from when a packet was sent to It's not quite accurate to say that this is an RTT sample because of all the conditions below, which is why I have the phrase. > ~~~ latest_rtt = ack_time - send_time_of_largest_acked ~~~ -First RTT sample: +An endpoint uses only locally observed times in generating RTT samples and does This subsection is talking about generating RTT samples, which do not adjust for host delays. > ~~~ latest_rtt = ack_time - send_time_of_largest_acked ~~~ -First RTT sample: +An endpoint uses only locally observed times in generating RTT samples and does +not adjust for any host delays reported by the peer ({{host-delay}}). + +A peer reports host delays for only the largest acknowledged packet in an ACK +frame, which is assumed by subsequent computations of smoothed_rtt and rttvar in Same as above -- this section on generating RTT samples doesn't use host delay, but later subsections (srtt, rttvar) do. > ~~~ latest_rtt = ack_time - send_time_of_largest_acked ~~~ -First RTT sample: +An endpoint uses only locally observed times in generating RTT samples and does +not adjust for any host delays reported by the peer ({{host-delay}}). + +A peer reports host delays for only the largest acknowledged packet in an ACK +frame, which is assumed by subsequent computations of smoothed_rtt and rttvar in +adjusting for host delays. As a result, an RTT sample is only generated using +the largest acknowledged packet in the received ACK frame. + +To avoid generating multiple RTT samples using the same packet, an ACK frame +SHOULD NOT be used to update RTT estimates if it does not newly acknowledge the good call -- fixed the condition above. > ~~~ latest_rtt = ack_time - send_time_of_largest_acked ~~~ -First RTT sample: +An endpoint uses only locally observed times in generating RTT samples and does +not adjust for any host delays reported by the peer ({{host-delay}}). + +A peer reports host delays for only the largest acknowledged packet in an ACK +frame, which is assumed by subsequent computations of smoothed_rtt and rttvar in +adjusting for host delays. As a result, an RTT sample is only generated using +the largest acknowledged packet in the received ACK frame. + +To avoid generating multiple RTT samples using the same packet, an ACK frame +SHOULD NOT be used to update RTT estimates if it does not newly acknowledge the +largest acknowledged packet. + +An RTT sample MUST NOT be generated on receiving an ACK frame that does not +newly acknowledge at least one ack-eliciting packet. A peer does not send an We are clear on the MUST NOT, and I don't want to dwell too long on the rationale... happy to take any text suggestions here, but I really don't think it's worth getting into the complications. > // Based on {{?RFC6298}}. if (smoothed_rtt == 0): - smoothed_rtt = latest_rtt + smoothed_rtt = adjusted_rtt *facepalm* thanks for catching this. I believe this was a bug in the original pseudo-code and the ack_delay adjustment should have been in the else to begin with. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

Thanks, Ian -- updated.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  
 
-# Generating Acknowledgements
-
-QUIC SHOULD delay sending acknowledgements in response to packets, but MUST NOT
-excessively delay acknowledgements of ack-eliciting packets. Specifically,
-implementations MUST attempt to enforce a maximum ack delay to avoid causing
-the peer spurious timeouts.  The maximum ack delay is communicated in the
-`max_ack_delay` transport parameter and the default value is 25ms.
+# Generating Acknowledgements {#generating-acks}

next PR in progress

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> -RTT when multiple such ACK frames are received within an RTT.  When multiple
-samples are generated within an RTT, the smoothed RTT and RTT variance could
-retain inadequate history, as suggested in {{?RFC6298}}. Changing these
-computations is currently an open research question.
-
-min_rtt is the minimum RTT measured over the connection, prior to adjusting by
-ack delay.  Ignoring ack delay for min RTT prevents intentional or unintentional
-underestimation of min RTT, which in turn prevents underestimating smoothed RTT.
-
-A sender calculates both smoothed RTT (SRTT) and RTT variance (RTTVAR) similar
-to those specified in {{?RFC6298}}.  Note that computing smoothed_rtt does not
-use ack_delay for the first RTT sample, because doing so would result in a
-smoothed_rtt that is smaller than the min_rtt.
-
-On every newly acknowledged ack-eliciting largest acked:
+## Measuring and Reporting Host Delay {#host-delay}

We don't really use sender and receiver terminology, partly because a receiver of STREAM frames is a sender of MAX_STREAM_DATA (et al) frames, which are also ack-eliciting.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> -A sender calculates both smoothed RTT (SRTT) and RTT variance (RTTVAR) similar
-to those specified in {{?RFC6298}}.  Note that computing smoothed_rtt does not
-use ack_delay for the first RTT sample, because doing so would result in a
-smoothed_rtt that is smaller than the min_rtt.
-
-On every newly acknowledged ack-eliciting largest acked:
+## Measuring and Reporting Host Delay {#host-delay}
+
+An endpoint measures the delay incurred between when a packet is received and
+when the corresponding acknowledgment is sent.  The endpoint encodes this host
+delay for the largest acknowledged packet in the Ack Delay field of an ACK frame
+(see Section 19.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}).  This allows the receiver of the ACK
+to adjust for any host delays - importantly, for delayed acknowledgements - when
+estimating the path RTT.  In certain deployments, a packet might be held in the
+OS kernel or elsewhere on the host before being processed by the QUIC
+stack. Where possible, an endpoint SHOULD include these delays when populating

Yeah, this is going to need some more work anyway (#2596), but I've changed it to a MAY. What complexities does it create?

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> -On every newly acknowledged ack-eliciting largest acked:
+## Measuring and Reporting Host Delay {#host-delay}
+
+An endpoint measures the delay incurred between when a packet is received and
+when the corresponding acknowledgment is sent.  The endpoint encodes this host
+delay for the largest acknowledged packet in the Ack Delay field of an ACK frame
+(see Section 19.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}).  This allows the receiver of the ACK
+to adjust for any host delays - importantly, for delayed acknowledgements - when
+estimating the path RTT.  In certain deployments, a packet might be held in the
+OS kernel or elsewhere on the host before being processed by the QUIC
+stack. Where possible, an endpoint SHOULD include these delays when populating
+the Ack Delay field in an ACK frame.
+
+An endpoint MUST NOT excessively delay acknowledgements of ack-eliciting
+packets.  The maximum ack delay is communicated in the max_ack_delay transport
+parameter, see Section 18.1 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}.  max_ack_delay implies an

I think implies works better here

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +OS kernel or elsewhere on the host before being processed by the QUIC
+stack. Where possible, an endpoint SHOULD include these delays when populating
+the Ack Delay field in an ACK frame.
+
+An endpoint MUST NOT excessively delay acknowledgements of ack-eliciting
+packets.  The maximum ack delay is communicated in the max_ack_delay transport
+parameter, see Section 18.1 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}.  max_ack_delay implies an
+explicit contract: an endpoint promises to never delay acknowledgments of an
+ack-eliciting packet by more than the indicated value. If it does, any excess
+accrues to the RTT estimate and could result in spurious retransmissions from
+the peer.
+
+
+# Estimating the Round-Trip Time {#compute-rtt}
+
+At a high level, an endpoint measures the time from when a packet was sent to

It's not quite accurate to say that this is an RTT sample because of all the conditions below, which is why I have the phrase.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  ~~~
 latest_rtt = ack_time - send_time_of_largest_acked
 ~~~
 
-First RTT sample:
+An endpoint uses only locally observed times in generating RTT samples and does

This subsection is talking about generating RTT samples, which do not adjust for host delays.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  ~~~
 latest_rtt = ack_time - send_time_of_largest_acked
 ~~~
 
-First RTT sample:
+An endpoint uses only locally observed times in generating RTT samples and does
+not adjust for any host delays reported by the peer ({{host-delay}}).
+
+A peer reports host delays for only the largest acknowledged packet in an ACK
+frame, which is assumed by subsequent computations of smoothed_rtt and rttvar in

Same as above -- this section on generating RTT samples doesn't use host delay, but later subsections (srtt, rttvar) do.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  ~~~
 latest_rtt = ack_time - send_time_of_largest_acked
 ~~~
 
-First RTT sample:
+An endpoint uses only locally observed times in generating RTT samples and does
+not adjust for any host delays reported by the peer ({{host-delay}}).
+
+A peer reports host delays for only the largest acknowledged packet in an ACK
+frame, which is assumed by subsequent computations of smoothed_rtt and rttvar in
+adjusting for host delays.  As a result, an RTT sample is only generated using
+the largest acknowledged packet in the received ACK frame.
+
+To avoid generating multiple RTT samples using the same packet, an ACK frame
+SHOULD NOT be used to update RTT estimates if it does not newly acknowledge the

good call -- fixed the condition above.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  ~~~
 latest_rtt = ack_time - send_time_of_largest_acked
 ~~~
 
-First RTT sample:
+An endpoint uses only locally observed times in generating RTT samples and does
+not adjust for any host delays reported by the peer ({{host-delay}}).
+
+A peer reports host delays for only the largest acknowledged packet in an ACK
+frame, which is assumed by subsequent computations of smoothed_rtt and rttvar in
+adjusting for host delays.  As a result, an RTT sample is only generated using
+the largest acknowledged packet in the received ACK frame.
+
+To avoid generating multiple RTT samples using the same packet, an ACK frame
+SHOULD NOT be used to update RTT estimates if it does not newly acknowledge the
+largest acknowledged packet.
+
+An RTT sample MUST NOT be generated on receiving an ACK frame that does not
+newly acknowledge at least one ack-eliciting packet.  A peer does not send an

We are clear on the MUST NOT, and I don't want to dwell too long on the rationale... happy to take any text suggestions here, but I really don't think it's worth getting into the complications.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>    // Based on {{?RFC6298}}.
   if (smoothed_rtt == 0):
-    smoothed_rtt = latest_rtt
+    smoothed_rtt = adjusted_rtt

facepalm thanks for catching this. I believe this was a bug in the original pseudo-code and the ack_delay adjustment should have been in the else to begin with.

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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Apr 9 17:36:28 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEF12120123 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2019 17:36:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CFLYf599MxoL for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2019 17:36:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 697AB1200DE for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2019 17:36:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2019 17:36:24 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554856584; bh=WTI2QoAu48ZxtYO5+fDf0NNKHGkTnY6N6qroObAqotQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=SFls7rqriTS2odhoThTnQj+rkJsqizXycYaYUvB3kEcP5VaCrWxsbegGOUKZE9lcI PwAUe//JXG5IYsIzMprLTELYAtRp5QrVbzwj43SFN/45wZlMowN5fd2Q9cu1VJDEQ/ My3uId09syQc5+rh9pjO2m+ruAz3wrniQe2duRHY= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Updated spinbit text (#2564) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cad3a8859417_30933f93912d45c4144343"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2019 00:36:28 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cad3a8859417_30933f93912d45c4144343 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson approved this pull request. I'm going to merge this soon, with one very important change and one editorial one. > +the spin bit is not disabled by the administrator implementations MUST disable +the spin bit for a given connection with a certain likelihood. The random +selection process SHOULD be designed such that on average the spin bit is +disabled for at least one eighth of connections. The selection process performed +at the beginning of the connection SHOULD be applied for all paths used by the +connection. + +In case multiple connections share the same five-tuple, that is, have the same +source and destination IP address and UDP ports, endpoints should try to +co-ordinate across all connections to ensure a clear signal to any on-path +measurement points. + +When the spin bit is disabled, endpoints MAY set the spin bit to any value, and +MUST ignore any incoming value. It is RECOMMENDED that endpoints set the spin +bit to a random value either chosen independently for each packet or chosen +independently for each connection. ```suggestion independently for each connection ID. ``` > + +The latency spin bit enables passive latency monitoring from observation points +on the network path throughout the duration of a connection. The spin bit is +only present in the short packet header, since it is possible to measure the +initial RTT of a connection by observing the handshake. Therefore, the spin bit +is available after version negotiation and connection establishment are +completed. On-path measurement and use of the latency spin bit is further +discussed in {{QUIC-MANAGEABILITY}}. + +The spin bit is an OPTIONAL feature of QUIC. A QUIC stack that chooses to +support the spin bit MUST implement it as specified in this section. + +Each endpoint unilaterally decides if the spin bit is enabled or disabled for a +connection. Implementations MUST allow administrators of clients and servers +to disable the spin bit either globally or on a per-connection basis. Even when +the spin bit is not disabled by the administrator implementations MUST disable ```suggestion the spin bit is not disabled by the administrator, implementations MUST disable ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2564#pullrequestreview-224715115 ----==_mimepart_5cad3a8859417_30933f93912d45c4144343 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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= =0D =0D = ----==_mimepart_5cad3a8859417_30933f93912d45c4144343-- From nobody Tue Apr 9 17:37:42 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47FC9120123 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2019 17:37:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GYXAzCshw5Ow for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2019 17:37:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7A8A71200DE for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2019 17:37:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2019 17:37:32 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554856652; bh=W4tGTk4t3b73ccmjUlzHZKvZgpCGMzkUPZXoe6eoidA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=PJa6v/evReoZKQhzXHMjWyinx4HMaDC/1ZAVwGCGfdzOcreByi1qbn2zVaV5OWr83 hsEnITBtpRhXGBjPc3osK5QW1HYYRp+QSWCm3zoicKabytHCZoze7LwV4bk9jFmw5x H21RBYg15UUpk90Zs+KPvy99BJlgRfQSHi0bUd3o= From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Idle timeout needs more description and a recommendation (#2602) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cad3acc76a0b_57d33fefe74d45c419633e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2019 00:37:35 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cad3acc76a0b_57d33fefe74d45c419633e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As it stands, the idle timeout period is used by both QUIC endpoints, and may be made available to the application but, - it's not clear how an endpoint should determine this value, - it's not explicitly stated that the min(server, client) should be used, - it's not explicitly stated that this min value should be communicated to the application, which needs it to determine how often to send PINGs. A straw proposal is to use 30 seconds as the default idle timeout period, and state the other two points explicitly in the transport and http drafts. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2602 ----==_mimepart_5cad3acc76a0b_57d33fefe74d45c419633e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

As it stands, the idle timeout period is used by both QUIC endpoints, and may be made available to the application but,

  • it's not clear how an endpoint should determine this value,
  • it's not explicitly stated that the min(server, client) should be used,
  • it's not explicitly stated that this min value should be communicated to the application, which needs it to determine how often to send PINGs.

A straw proposal is to use 30 seconds as the default idle timeout period, and state the other two points explicitly in the transport and http drafts.

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I disagree with this. In total, but for various reasons.

Endpoints have their own rules about how long they are willing to wait= , so any recommendation is a bad idea.

The min(client, server) thing is not necessary. You might note that t= his is a natural consequence of the design, but this is a unilateral thin= g. If you want to wait longer, you can. This is particularly important = in cases where connections are garbage-collected rather than reaped on a = timer. In those cases, idle timeouts can be much longer on one end than = the other if the short timer is GC'd. The endpoint that does GC might ho= ld the connection alive much longer, and even initiate new activity on th= at connection well after its advertised timeout.

This can be different to what endpoints might choose to do about keep = NAT bindings alive. Keepalives are sent to keep bindings alive on paths = and we already have text on that. Paths= are not connections.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4115,6 +4130,25 @@ preferred_address (0x000d):
 ~~~
 {: #fig-preferred-address title="Preferred Address format"}
 
+version_aliases (0x000e):
+
+: A list of version numbers that the server accepts as an alias for the
+  currently used versions. This transport parameter is only sent by the server.
+  Every version alias contains a lifetime in milliseconds. The alias is only valid
+  for that lifetime, clients MUST NOT use it after expiry.
+

If the idea that this lifetime is also a commitment to support a given version, then this isn't really a fully effective downgrade-prevention mechanism. I expect that we'll see something good on that shortly.

I would instead prefer to say that the server is required to honour the alias for the entire advertised lifetime unless it also stops supporting that QUIC version.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2701,10 +2701,10 @@ frames. -->
 {: #packet-frames title="QUIC Payload"}
 
 QUIC payloads MUST contain at least one frame, and MAY contain multiple frames
-and multiple frame types.
+and multiple frame types.  Frames MUST fit within a single QUIC packet and MUST

This last bit is true, but it's not just a MUST, it seems impossible given the framing we have. I'm wondering if a can not is more appropriate, given it's essentially impossible?

But I guess this is pre-existing normative text, so in the interest in keeping this PR editorial, this is fine by me.

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The normative text LG, some editorial comments > An endpoint MAY send a stateless reset in response to a packet with a long -header. This would not be effective if the stateless reset token was not yet -available to a peer. In this QUIC version, packets with a long header are only -used during connection establishment. Because the stateless reset token is not -available until connection establishment is complete or near completion, -ignoring an unknown packet with a long header might be more effective. +header. Sending a stateless reset is not effective prior to the stateless reset +token being available to a peer. In this QUIC version, packets with a long +header are only used during connection establishment. Because the stateless +reset token is not available until connection establishment is complete or near nit: is it complete or near complete? Is the stateless reset token available at handshake completion or near completion(ie: upon receipt of the server's Initial) > An endpoint MAY send a stateless reset in response to a packet with a long -header. This would not be effective if the stateless reset token was not yet -available to a peer. In this QUIC version, packets with a long header are only -used during connection establishment. Because the stateless reset token is not -available until connection establishment is complete or near completion, -ignoring an unknown packet with a long header might be more effective. +header. Sending a stateless reset is not effective prior to the stateless reset +token being available to a peer. In this QUIC version, packets with a long +header are only used during connection establishment. Because the stateless +reset token is not available until connection establishment is complete or near +completion, ignoring an unknown packet with a long header might be more +effective than sending a stateless reset. equally effective? I'm unclear about how it could be more effective? Or maybe reword this last sentence? > @@ -2391,13 +2391,17 @@ the packet other than the last 16 bytes for carrying data. ### Detecting a Stateless Reset -An endpoint detects a potential stateless reset when a incoming packet -with a short header either cannot be associated with a connection, -cannot be decrypted, or is marked as a duplicate packet. The endpoint -then compares the last 16 bytes of the packet with the Stateless Reset -Token provided by its peer, either in a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame or -the server's transport parameters. If these values are identical, -the endpoint MUST enter the draining period and not send any further +An endpoint detects a potential stateless reset when an incoming packet either +cannot be associated with a connection, cannot be decrypted, or is marked as a +duplicate packet. The endpoint MUST then compare the last 16 bytes of the +packet with all Stateless Reset Tokens that are associated with connection IDs +that are currently in use. This includes Stateless Reset Tokens from Should there be any constraint on the receiving IP and port opposed to all possible connections? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2600#pullrequestreview-224718997 ----==_mimepart_5cad40e017223_14263fe6204d45b8281585 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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The normative text LG, some editorial comments

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  An endpoint MAY send a stateless reset in response to a packet with a long
-header.  This would not be effective if the stateless reset token was not yet
-available to a peer.  In this QUIC version, packets with a long header are only
-used during connection establishment.   Because the stateless reset token is not
-available until connection establishment is complete or near completion,
-ignoring an unknown packet with a long header might be more effective.
+header.  Sending a stateless reset is not effective prior to the stateless reset
+token being available to a peer.  In this QUIC version, packets with a long
+header are only used during connection establishment.   Because the stateless
+reset token is not available until connection establishment is complete or near

nit: is it complete or near complete? Is the stateless reset token available at handshake completion or near completion(ie: upon receipt of the server's Initial)

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  An endpoint MAY send a stateless reset in response to a packet with a long
-header.  This would not be effective if the stateless reset token was not yet
-available to a peer.  In this QUIC version, packets with a long header are only
-used during connection establishment.   Because the stateless reset token is not
-available until connection establishment is complete or near completion,
-ignoring an unknown packet with a long header might be more effective.
+header.  Sending a stateless reset is not effective prior to the stateless reset
+token being available to a peer.  In this QUIC version, packets with a long
+header are only used during connection establishment.   Because the stateless
+reset token is not available until connection establishment is complete or near
+completion, ignoring an unknown packet with a long header might be more
+effective than sending a stateless reset.

equally effective? I'm unclear about how it could be more effective? Or maybe reword this last sentence?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2391,13 +2391,17 @@ the packet other than the last 16 bytes for carrying data.
 
 ### Detecting a Stateless Reset
 
-An endpoint detects a potential stateless reset when a incoming packet
-with a short header either cannot be associated with a connection,
-cannot be decrypted, or is marked as a duplicate packet.  The endpoint
-then compares the last 16 bytes of the packet with the Stateless Reset
-Token provided by its peer, either in a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame or
-the server's transport parameters.  If these values are identical,
-the endpoint MUST enter the draining period and not send any further
+An endpoint detects a potential stateless reset when an incoming packet either
+cannot be associated with a connection, cannot be decrypted, or is marked as a
+duplicate packet.  The endpoint MUST then compare the last 16 bytes of the
+packet with all Stateless Reset Tokens that are associated with connection IDs
+that are currently in use.  This includes Stateless Reset Tokens from

Should there be any constraint on the receiving IP and port opposed to all possible connections?

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----==_mimepart_5cad40e017223_14263fe6204d45b8281585-- From nobody Tue Apr 9 18:04:40 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA7EA12036B for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2019 18:04:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vns1S56nErDz for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2019 18:04:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EF4FC1200E0 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2019 18:04:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2019 18:04:35 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554858275; bh=2npncP0FTiN10eVQmRvTFaKs0U3yGo7WffznB+ZvLr0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=s/qFvFkx3a7FK8ZEW0XPZV7iWcGKt/QTsxkTn6tB6ZUnKqncmP89zyyusu66+it0s sNk++g34LY9YHP1oAtD6HlQx0VUfupAZ+OzFm7C3bHbomSsA+xkBwuV9rN+Q5hMPk3 37NFRXkj774peFOTPHXyHjO2zmQZuDCauo7Z4LaQ= From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Idle timeout needs more description and a recommendation (#2602) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cad41231fe6e_194d3ff32ead45c438545"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2019 01:04:38 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cad41231fe6e_194d3ff32ead45c438545 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The recommendation is not for how long an endpoint is willing to wait, but a default recommendation for general purpose QUIC implementations. We have default recommendations in both the transport and the recovery draft based on best known practices. My suggestion for using 30 seconds as the default is based on GQUIC experience. The min() thing is important IMO. Again, this is not a requirement, but keeping and trying a connection _after_ you believe the peer to have closed it potentially wastes an RTT. HTTP connections using TCP do this all the time, and incur an RTT of delay. I'm not suggesting that we don't accommodate implementations that want to keep connections open for past the timeout period, but it's worth explicitly noting the cost of using a potentially dead connection. For an unconstrained implementation, what value do you see in continuing with a connection after it is likely to have been discarded by the peer? Endpoints need to keep not only NAT bindings alive but also potentially QUIC state at the peer alive. If a server is taking time to generate a response and there is a risk of the idle timeout closing the connection before the server sends a response. The application (HTTP) knows this, and is expected to send PINGs to keep the connection open, but without knowledge of the idle timeout at the peer, it has to guess how often to send a PING. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2602#issuecomment-481494142 ----==_mimepart_5cad41231fe6e_194d3ff32ead45c438545 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The recommendation is not for how long an endpoint is willing to wait,= but a default recommendation for general purpose QUIC implementations. W= e have default recommendations in both the transport and the recovery dra= ft based on best known practices. My suggestion for using 30 seconds as t= he default is based on GQUIC experience.

The min() thing is important IMO. Again, this is not a requirement, bu= t keeping and trying a connection after you believe the peer to = have closed it potentially wastes an RTT. HTTP connections using TCP do = this all the time, and incur an RTT of delay. I'm not suggesting that we = don't accommodate implementations that want to keep connections open for = past the timeout period, but it's worth explicitly noting the cost of usi= ng a potentially dead connection. For an unconstrained implementation, wh= at value do you see in continuing with a connection after it is likely to= have been discarded by the peer?

Endpoints need to keep not only NAT bindings alive but also potentiall= y QUIC state at the peer alive. If a server is taking time to generate a = response and there is a risk of the idle timeout closing the connection = before the server sends a response. The application (HTTP) knows this, an= d is expected to send PINGs to keep the connection open, but without know= ledge of the idle timeout at the peer, it has to guess how often to send = a PING.

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The endpoint -then compares the last 16 bytes of the packet with the Stateless Reset -Token provided by its peer, either in a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame or -the server's transport parameters. If these values are identical, -the endpoint MUST enter the draining period and not send any further +An endpoint detects a potential stateless reset when an incoming packet either +cannot be associated with a connection, cannot be decrypted, or is marked as a +duplicate packet. The endpoint MUST then compare the last 16 bytes of the Why MUST? SHOULD seems adequate here. A strawman argument is that an endpoint might choose to not use this if there are too many connections. I don't have a strong opposition, but I'd like to hear your rationale. > @@ -2391,13 +2391,17 @@ the packet other than the last 16 bytes for carrying data. ### Detecting a Stateless Reset -An endpoint detects a potential stateless reset when a incoming packet -with a short header either cannot be associated with a connection, -cannot be decrypted, or is marked as a duplicate packet. The endpoint -then compares the last 16 bytes of the packet with the Stateless Reset -Token provided by its peer, either in a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame or -the server's transport parameters. If these values are identical, -the endpoint MUST enter the draining period and not send any further +An endpoint detects a potential stateless reset when an incoming packet either +cannot be associated with a connection, cannot be decrypted, or is marked as a +duplicate packet. The endpoint MUST then compare the last 16 bytes of the +packet with all Stateless Reset Tokens that are associated with connection IDs +that are currently in use. This includes Stateless Reset Tokens from Yeah agreed. You could say something like "candidate connections, such as those on the same IP and port as the received packet." -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2600#pullrequestreview-224721125 ----==_mimepart_5cad42a4eb870_13cf3fe6204d45b88119b4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2391,13 +2391,17 @@ the packet other than the last 16 bytes for carrying data.
 
 ### Detecting a Stateless Reset
 
-An endpoint detects a potential stateless reset when a incoming packet
-with a short header either cannot be associated with a connection,
-cannot be decrypted, or is marked as a duplicate packet.  The endpoint
-then compares the last 16 bytes of the packet with the Stateless Reset
-Token provided by its peer, either in a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame or
-the server's transport parameters.  If these values are identical,
-the endpoint MUST enter the draining period and not send any further
+An endpoint detects a potential stateless reset when an incoming packet either
+cannot be associated with a connection, cannot be decrypted, or is marked as a
+duplicate packet.  The endpoint MUST then compare the last 16 bytes of the

Why MUST? SHOULD seems adequate here. A strawman argument is that an endpoint might choose to not use this if there are too many connections. I don't have a strong opposition, but I'd like to hear your rationale.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2391,13 +2391,17 @@ the packet other than the last 16 bytes for carrying data.
 
 ### Detecting a Stateless Reset
 
-An endpoint detects a potential stateless reset when a incoming packet
-with a short header either cannot be associated with a connection,
-cannot be decrypted, or is marked as a duplicate packet.  The endpoint
-then compares the last 16 bytes of the packet with the Stateless Reset
-Token provided by its peer, either in a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame or
-the server's transport parameters.  If these values are identical,
-the endpoint MUST enter the draining period and not send any further
+An endpoint detects a potential stateless reset when an incoming packet either
+cannot be associated with a connection, cannot be decrypted, or is marked as a
+duplicate packet.  The endpoint MUST then compare the last 16 bytes of the
+packet with all Stateless Reset Tokens that are associated with connection IDs
+that are currently in use.  This includes Stateless Reset Tokens from

Yeah agreed. You could say something like "candidate connections, such as those on the same IP and port as the received packet."

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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> -ack delay.  Ignoring ack delay for min RTT prevents intentional or unintentional
-underestimation of min RTT, which in turn prevents underestimating smoothed RTT.
-
-A sender calculates both smoothed RTT (SRTT) and RTT variance (RTTVAR) similar
-to those specified in {{?RFC6298}}.  Note that computing smoothed_rtt does not
-use ack_delay for the first RTT sample, because doing so would result in a
-smoothed_rtt that is smaller than the min_rtt.
-
-On every newly acknowledged ack-eliciting largest acked:
+## Measuring and Reporting Host Delay {#host-delay}
+
+An endpoint measures the delay incurred between when a packet is received and
+when the corresponding acknowledgment is sent.  The endpoint encodes this host
+delay for the largest acknowledged packet in the Ack Delay field of an ACK frame
+(see Section 19.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}).  This allows the receiver of the ACK
+to adjust for any host delays - importantly, for delayed acknowledgements - when

Bump?

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  ~~~
 latest_rtt = ack_time - send_time_of_largest_acked
 ~~~
 
-First RTT sample:
+An endpoint uses only locally observed times in generating RTT samples and does
+not adjust for any host delays reported by the peer ({{host-delay}}).
+
+A peer reports host delays for only the largest acknowledged packet in an ACK
+frame, which is assumed by subsequent computations of smoothed_rtt and rttvar in

Bump, I'm still unclear on what the latter half of the sentence is trying to communicate.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> -ack delay.  Ignoring ack delay for min RTT prevents intentional or unintentional
-underestimation of min RTT, which in turn prevents underestimating smoothed RTT.
-
-A sender calculates both smoothed RTT (SRTT) and RTT variance (RTTVAR) similar
-to those specified in {{?RFC6298}}.  Note that computing smoothed_rtt does not
-use ack_delay for the first RTT sample, because doing so would result in a
-smoothed_rtt that is smaller than the min_rtt.
-
-On every newly acknowledged ack-eliciting largest acked:
+## Measuring and Reporting Host Delay {#host-delay}
+
+An endpoint measures the delay incurred between when a packet is received and
+when the corresponding acknowledgment is sent.  The endpoint encodes this host
+delay for the largest acknowledged packet in the Ack Delay field of an ACK frame
+(see Section 19.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}).  This allows the receiver of the ACK
+to adjust for any host delays - importantly, for delayed acknowledgements - when

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> -retain inadequate history, as suggested in {{?RFC6298}}. Changing these
-computations is currently an open research question.
-
-min_rtt is the minimum RTT measured over the connection, prior to adjusting by
-ack delay.  Ignoring ack delay for min RTT prevents intentional or unintentional
-underestimation of min RTT, which in turn prevents underestimating smoothed RTT.
-
-A sender calculates both smoothed RTT (SRTT) and RTT variance (RTTVAR) similar
-to those specified in {{?RFC6298}}.  Note that computing smoothed_rtt does not
-use ack_delay for the first RTT sample, because doing so would result in a
-smoothed_rtt that is smaller than the min_rtt.
-
-On every newly acknowledged ack-eliciting largest acked:
+## Measuring and Reporting Host Delay {#host-delay}
+
+An endpoint measures the delay incurred between when a packet is received and

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> -On every newly acknowledged ack-eliciting largest acked:
+## Measuring and Reporting Host Delay {#host-delay}
+
+An endpoint measures the delay incurred between when a packet is received and
+when the corresponding acknowledgment is sent.  The endpoint encodes this host
+delay for the largest acknowledged packet in the Ack Delay field of an ACK frame
+(see Section 19.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}).  This allows the receiver of the ACK
+to adjust for any host delays - importantly, for delayed acknowledgements - when
+estimating the path RTT.  In certain deployments, a packet might be held in the
+OS kernel or elsewhere on the host before being processed by the QUIC
+stack. Where possible, an endpoint SHOULD include these delays when populating
+the Ack Delay field in an ACK frame.
+
+An endpoint MUST NOT excessively delay acknowledgements of ack-eliciting
+packets.  The maximum ack delay is communicated in the max_ack_delay transport
+parameter, see Section 18.1 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}.  max_ack_delay implies an

I would disagree, since I do not like the word implies in IETF documents.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  ~~~
 latest_rtt = ack_time - send_time_of_largest_acked
 ~~~
 
-First RTT sample:
+An endpoint uses only locally observed times in generating RTT samples and does

I would just remove this paragraph, because it's potentially confusing and I'm not sure what it's adding?

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I agree with @ianswett about the MUSTs that you shuffled around are statements of fact, not interoperability requirements, but the addition is fine. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2601#pullrequestreview-224732691 ----==_mimepart_5cad50f34e6c5_19233fe52b4d45b814038f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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I agree with @ianswett about the MUSTs that you shuffled around are statements of fact, not interoperability requirements, but the addition is fine.

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These were phrased as requirements, but they are really just statements
of fact.

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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Apr 9 19:20:23 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70B921200B9 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2019 19:20:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hUhI4tKQgOrJ for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2019 19:20:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1821B12000E for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2019 19:20:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2019 19:20:19 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554862819; bh=LVWUYqHv7QaQfLknaFcSe2HO9n1eu8d9HcmtJVSNtJM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=YtOzdyQ1XM43CAgFcvt47R2a+Wq6JLfHnNR9NKEpLNUOXySwkPIFihWzJ+QRj/GOL JvbVm+sseF3ZXkWWvdIxo5xZctXGnpRjdUqZXEX5LTum/CMlyXg0IsnZkm+VhfLNSH h/a3QtflfT+hqBFnMow0zAQrtA/NVaTe2zE9F88U= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Idle timeout needs more description and a recommendation (#2602) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cad52e33855e_32bd3ff04ccd45c018661e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2019 02:20:21 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cad52e33855e_32bd3ff04ccd45c018661e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yep, don't think we need to recommend anything. min() is not helpful except as a warning - and we already have that warning. Keepalive is an entirely different thing. Applications might decide to engage keepalives to keep paths active, or the connection as a whole, but the model should be that the application asks the transport to stay active and the transport manages that (because only it knows about multiple paths and so on). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2602#issuecomment-481507604 ----==_mimepart_5cad52e33855e_32bd3ff04ccd45c018661e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yep, don't think we need to recommend anything.

min() is not helpful except as a warning - and we already have that wa= rning.

Keepalive is an entirely different thing. Applications might decide t= o engage keepalives to keep paths active, or the connection as a whole, b= ut the model should be that the application asks the transport to stay ac= tive and the transport manages that (because only it knows about multiple= paths and so on).

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= ----==_mimepart_5cad52e33855e_32bd3ff04ccd45c018661e-- From nobody Tue Apr 9 19:25:12 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E227E12011A for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2019 19:25:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1cmbN5sfnwKy for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2019 19:25:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E97121200B9 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2019 19:25:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2019 19:25:08 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554863108; bh=dvyvl76cQwtCaSiqi95THHM7YXt75MPe3+YmPcWeDHo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=wUh8tgG1bmJlr/w5J0lF19bDWnXDD+jM1jNFwAm9Gx8uQfKXurrCKGN1D6+JZttlJ PdqiJsauI1TVX4oMSD7/86JWUBeCjAn1do7AfsJsk4J+t+PqA26FnBDUuwGVoT+5OQ KMDMsmC9lpHCnf3UCfFIEImSuo02NhPqyv2Hwpjk= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Mandate the use of short header for stateless reset (#2600) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cad540414e2e_599e3f8d450d45b410457d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2019 02:25:12 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cad540414e2e_599e3f8d450d45b410457d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson commented on this pull request. Given that these are comments I would have expected to see on the *other* PR... > An endpoint MAY send a stateless reset in response to a packet with a long -header. This would not be effective if the stateless reset token was not yet -available to a peer. In this QUIC version, packets with a long header are only -used during connection establishment. Because the stateless reset token is not -available until connection establishment is complete or near completion, -ignoring an unknown packet with a long header might be more effective. +header. Sending a stateless reset is not effective prior to the stateless reset +token being available to a peer. In this QUIC version, packets with a long +header are only used during connection establishment. Because the stateless +reset token is not available until connection establishment is complete or near +completion, ignoring an unknown packet with a long header might be more +effective than sending a stateless reset. Long header packets are sent during connection establishment. If you are sending them, you are still actively connecting. Ignoring them will mean the other side times out, whereas a stateless reset is unlikely to be usable. "as effective" would work I guess. > An endpoint MAY send a stateless reset in response to a packet with a long -header. This would not be effective if the stateless reset token was not yet -available to a peer. In this QUIC version, packets with a long header are only -used during connection establishment. Because the stateless reset token is not -available until connection establishment is complete or near completion, -ignoring an unknown packet with a long header might be more effective. +header. Sending a stateless reset is not effective prior to the stateless reset +token being available to a peer. In this QUIC version, packets with a long +header are only used during connection establishment. Because the stateless +reset token is not available until connection establishment is complete or near Either, depending on packet loss. > @@ -2391,13 +2391,17 @@ the packet other than the last 16 bytes for carrying data. ### Detecting a Stateless Reset -An endpoint detects a potential stateless reset when a incoming packet -with a short header either cannot be associated with a connection, -cannot be decrypted, or is marked as a duplicate packet. The endpoint -then compares the last 16 bytes of the packet with the Stateless Reset -Token provided by its peer, either in a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame or -the server's transport parameters. If these values are identical, -the endpoint MUST enter the draining period and not send any further +An endpoint detects a potential stateless reset when an incoming packet either +cannot be associated with a connection, cannot be decrypted, or is marked as a +duplicate packet. The endpoint MUST then compare the last 16 bytes of the Open an issue if you care. I don't think that it's worth having wishy-washy SHOULDs here. > @@ -2391,13 +2391,17 @@ the packet other than the last 16 bytes for carrying data. ### Detecting a Stateless Reset -An endpoint detects a potential stateless reset when a incoming packet -with a short header either cannot be associated with a connection, -cannot be decrypted, or is marked as a duplicate packet. The endpoint -then compares the last 16 bytes of the packet with the Stateless Reset -Token provided by its peer, either in a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame or -the server's transport parameters. If these values are identical, -the endpoint MUST enter the draining period and not send any further +An endpoint detects a potential stateless reset when an incoming packet either +cannot be associated with a connection, cannot be decrypted, or is marked as a +duplicate packet. The endpoint MUST then compare the last 16 bytes of the +packet with all Stateless Reset Tokens that are associated with connection IDs +that are currently in use. This includes Stateless Reset Tokens from That's not meaningful in terms of security, but that was implied. I'll amend the other PR. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2600#pullrequestreview-224734727 ----==_mimepart_5cad540414e2e_599e3f8d450d45b410457d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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Given that these are comments I would have expected to see on the other PR...

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  An endpoint MAY send a stateless reset in response to a packet with a long
-header.  This would not be effective if the stateless reset token was not yet
-available to a peer.  In this QUIC version, packets with a long header are only
-used during connection establishment.   Because the stateless reset token is not
-available until connection establishment is complete or near completion,
-ignoring an unknown packet with a long header might be more effective.
+header.  Sending a stateless reset is not effective prior to the stateless reset
+token being available to a peer.  In this QUIC version, packets with a long
+header are only used during connection establishment.   Because the stateless
+reset token is not available until connection establishment is complete or near
+completion, ignoring an unknown packet with a long header might be more
+effective than sending a stateless reset.

Long header packets are sent during connection establishment. If you are sending them, you are still actively connecting. Ignoring them will mean the other side times out, whereas a stateless reset is unlikely to be usable.

"as effective" would work I guess.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  An endpoint MAY send a stateless reset in response to a packet with a long
-header.  This would not be effective if the stateless reset token was not yet
-available to a peer.  In this QUIC version, packets with a long header are only
-used during connection establishment.   Because the stateless reset token is not
-available until connection establishment is complete or near completion,
-ignoring an unknown packet with a long header might be more effective.
+header.  Sending a stateless reset is not effective prior to the stateless reset
+token being available to a peer.  In this QUIC version, packets with a long
+header are only used during connection establishment.   Because the stateless
+reset token is not available until connection establishment is complete or near

Either, depending on packet loss.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2391,13 +2391,17 @@ the packet other than the last 16 bytes for carrying data.
 
 ### Detecting a Stateless Reset
 
-An endpoint detects a potential stateless reset when a incoming packet
-with a short header either cannot be associated with a connection,
-cannot be decrypted, or is marked as a duplicate packet.  The endpoint
-then compares the last 16 bytes of the packet with the Stateless Reset
-Token provided by its peer, either in a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame or
-the server's transport parameters.  If these values are identical,
-the endpoint MUST enter the draining period and not send any further
+An endpoint detects a potential stateless reset when an incoming packet either
+cannot be associated with a connection, cannot be decrypted, or is marked as a
+duplicate packet.  The endpoint MUST then compare the last 16 bytes of the

Open an issue if you care. I don't think that it's worth having wishy-washy SHOULDs here.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2391,13 +2391,17 @@ the packet other than the last 16 bytes for carrying data.
 
 ### Detecting a Stateless Reset
 
-An endpoint detects a potential stateless reset when a incoming packet
-with a short header either cannot be associated with a connection,
-cannot be decrypted, or is marked as a duplicate packet.  The endpoint
-then compares the last 16 bytes of the packet with the Stateless Reset
-Token provided by its peer, either in a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame or
-the server's transport parameters.  If these values are identical,
-the endpoint MUST enter the draining period and not send any further
+An endpoint detects a potential stateless reset when an incoming packet either
+cannot be associated with a connection, cannot be decrypted, or is marked as a
+duplicate packet.  The endpoint MUST then compare the last 16 bytes of the
+packet with all Stateless Reset Tokens that are associated with connection IDs
+that are currently in use.  This includes Stateless Reset Tokens from

That's not meaningful in terms of security, but that was implied. I'll amend the other PR.

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I think we have a corner case. Consider a case where the server advertises idle-timeout of 10 seconds and the client advertises 5 seconds. Should a client use a connection that has been idle for 6 seconds to send new requests? The client should, if we require servers to keep the connection state open for the timeout _it_ advertised (i.e. 10 seconds) regardless of the value advertised by the client. The client should not, if we think that the server are allowed to drop the connection after min() seconds. Do we clarify which way the server behavior in this example should be? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2602#issuecomment-481522853 ----==_mimepart_5cad689811065_63183ffb600d45bc804e8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

min() is not helpful except as a warning - and we already have that wa= rning.

I think we have a corner case.

Consider a case where the server advertises idle-timeout of 10 seconds= and the client advertises 5 seconds. Should a client use a connection th= at has been idle for 6 seconds to send new requests?

The client should, if we require servers to keep the connection state = open for the timeout it advertised (i.e. 10 seconds) regardless = of the value advertised by the client.

The client should not, if we think that the server are allowed to drop= the connection after min() seconds.

Do we clarify which way the server behavior in this example should be?=

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2391,13 +2391,17 @@ the packet other than the last 16 bytes for carrying data.
 
 ### Detecting a Stateless Reset
 
-An endpoint detects a potential stateless reset when a incoming packet
-with a short header either cannot be associated with a connection,
-cannot be decrypted, or is marked as a duplicate packet.  The endpoint
-then compares the last 16 bytes of the packet with the Stateless Reset
-Token provided by its peer, either in a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame or
-the server's transport parameters.  If these values are identical,
-the endpoint MUST enter the draining period and not send any further
+An endpoint detects a potential stateless reset when an incoming packet either
+cannot be associated with a connection, cannot be decrypted, or is marked as a
+duplicate packet.  The endpoint MUST then compare the last 16 bytes of the

I think that this can be a MUST, based on the understanding that processing of stateless resets sent by the peer is an option. Or are we requiring every endpoint to detect and handle stateless resets?

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While I agree with the issue, the PR says that other versions might want= to reset with a long header and therefore the receiver must inspect long h= eaders anyway. I can see this, but given that, I think it is pointless to r= equire the current version to only send resets for short headers. A general= advice ought to suffice since the MUST is not enforceable anyway.

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I'm not sure that I agree. You could easily have a long stream frame spilling over into the next packet. There is nothing but implied complications that really prevents that from happing, except from this text. That said, but old and new version will work.

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I'm a bit concerned with unbounded amounts of aliases being dumped on = the client. If the alias is tied to a token, a client can just drop exces= s tokens and aliases, but if the design somehow evolves into a many heade= d alias thing, there could be some abuse/resource issues.

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(@larseggert : Thanks for catching this)

Currently, in OnLossDetectionTimeout(), we detect losses but do not sent anything on time threshold loss detection. This means that SetLossDetectionTimer() that is called later in the function does not set a timer because inflight can be 0 (if all inflight is marked lost).

This is an oversight, since clearly we send rtxs when we mark packets as lost, and in the case of threshold detection, we send as much as the cwnd allows.

My proposal is to add the last two lines below
if (loss_time != 0):
// Time threshold loss Detection
DetectLostPackets(pn_space)
SendOnePacketWithRetransmittedData()
SendDataAsCwndAllows()

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4115,6 +4130,25 @@ preferred_address (0x000d):
 ~~~
 {: #fig-preferred-address title="Preferred Address format"}
 
+version_aliases (0x000e):
+
+: A list of version numbers that the server accepts as an alias for the
+  currently used versions. This transport parameter is only sent by the server.
+  Every version alias contains a lifetime in milliseconds. The alias is only valid
+  for that lifetime, clients MUST NOT use it after expiry.
+

I don't consider this a fully effective downgrade-prevention mechanism, but it provides a mechanism for the client to detect on-path version tapering: If the client gets a version negotiation packet in return to an alias version and receives the same version alias that failed again, it can be sure someone is doing a downgrade attack (or the server is horribly broken).

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I consider the whole version alias mechanism must be strictly optional f= or client and server. If it is used, it may provide an early signal for ver= sion negotiation tapering.
The server MUST NOT assume that the client uses any of the version aliases,= but the server MUST accept all version aliases it presented the client wit= h during their lifetime unless it also stops supporting the aliased QUIC ve= rsion (thanks @martinthomson ).

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I don't think you need to indicate what should be sent, so I'd recommend: "SendPacketsAsCongestionControllerAllows()" since it may be pacing or CWND limited.

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Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2019 15:29:16 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: 5ed9133eabe55169ba66cb1b8200f4f1f42c9d9e https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5ed9133eabe55169ba66cb1b8200f4f1f42c9d9e Author: Magnus Westerlund Date: 2019-01-15 (Tue, 15 Jan 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Initial text proposal for adding spin bit to transport specification. 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[ci skip] From nobody Wed Apr 10 11:06:14 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B7DF12030E for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2019 11:06:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zPiJJNOnJBqD for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2019 11:06:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5FB2212004E for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2019 11:06:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2019 11:06:09 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554919570; bh=Rs6PmG7bVc2I8/Gi8lu8n7wKKErodpm7HI/eit+/HQc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=feK5NSTY4XC7MObRAwDtui/PwNfB1lSmQv/fEzRTNUjV4Z44Tej9UKTFEhyKgyAoq bfy5gLtklwqrVKp4d5dpJf8GvNdQWbdauz8LLcnfeFNH7DcB+XCKSC0ONwkkyJwr2e rx/frewrnPRcsG8Gncvsh5kOQ2oChfg7EAzlN1xw= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Idle timeout needs more description and a recommendation (#2602) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cae3091f0954_7ee63fb849cd45c42792ea"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2019 18:06:13 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cae3091f0954_7ee63fb849cd45c42792ea Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @kazuho makes a very good point. If we're ok with the server looking at the client transport parameters and sending an idle timeout in it's transport params that may be a function of the client's, then this may not be a real issue, but if we truly want transport params to be unilateral advertisements, then this is a problem. I agree that the NAT timeout issue is totally separate, and I'd like to keep this issue away from that if possible. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2602#issuecomment-481800230 ----==_mimepart_5cae3091f0954_7ee63fb849cd45c42792ea Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@kazuho makes a very good point.

If we're ok with the server looking at the client transport parameters= and sending an idle timeout in it's transport params that may be a funct= ion of the client's, then this may not be a real issue, but if we truly w= ant transport params to be unilateral advertisements, then this is a prob= lem.

I agree that the NAT timeout issue is totally separate, and I'd like t= o keep this issue away from that if possible.

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Because the server could be blocked until more packets are received, the client -MUST start the crypto retransmission timer even if there is no unacknowledged -CRYPTO data. If the timer expires and the client has no CRYPTO data to -retransmit and does not have Handshake keys, it SHOULD send an Initial packet in -a UDP datagram of at least 1200 bytes. If the client has Handshake keys, it -SHOULD send a Handshake packet. - -On each consecutive expiration of the crypto timer without receiving an -acknowledgement for a new packet, the sender SHOULD double the crypto -retransmission timeout and set a timer for this period. +MUST ensure the crypto retransmission timer is set if there is unacknowledged +crypto data and MUST ensure the timer is set until it has 1-RTT keys. +If the timer expires and the client has no CRYPTO data to retransmit and does +not have Handshake keys, it MUST send an Initial packet in a UDP datagram of +at least 1200 bytes. 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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -458,17 +462,16 @@ sent, then no alarm should be armed until data has been received from the
 client.
 
 Because the server could be blocked until more packets are received, the client
-MUST start the crypto retransmission timer even if there is no unacknowledged
-CRYPTO data.  If the timer expires and the client has no CRYPTO data to
-retransmit and does not have Handshake keys, it SHOULD send an Initial packet in
-a UDP datagram of at least 1200 bytes.  If the client has Handshake keys, it
-SHOULD send a Handshake packet.
-
-On each consecutive expiration of the crypto timer without receiving an
-acknowledgement for a new packet, the sender SHOULD double the crypto
-retransmission timeout and set a timer for this period.
+MUST ensure the crypto retransmission timer is set if there is unacknowledged
+crypto data and MUST ensure the timer is set until it has 1-RTT keys.
+If the timer expires and the client has no CRYPTO data to retransmit and does
+not have Handshake keys, it MUST send an Initial packet in a UDP datagram of
+at least 1200 bytes.  If the client has Handshake keys, it MUST send a
+Handshake packet.

Done, with some minor editing.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1114,7 +1117,8 @@ SetLossDetectionTimer():
     loss_detection_timer.update(loss_time)
     return
 
-  if (crypto packets are in flight):
+  if (crypto packets are in flight &&
+      crypto data to send):

I removed this from here due to the other PR, but left it in below. Feel free to suggest alternate phrasing.

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There's text on this edge case, but not the interaction with persistent = congestion.
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-recover= y-19#section-6.3.2
"When a PTO timer expires, new or previously-sent data may not be
available to send and packets may still be in flight. A sender can
be blocked from sending new data in the future if packets are left in
flight. Under these conditions, a sender SHOULD mark any packets
still in flight as lost. If a sender wishes to establish delivery of
packets still in flight, it MAY send an ack-eliciting packet and re-
arm the PTO timer instead."

I think if you follow either suggestion listed, you shouldn't inadverten= tly declare persistent congestion from being idle, since in one case you im= mediately declare packet loss and in the other, you'd only declare persiste= nt congestion if the subsequent PTOs established it?

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There's text on this edge case, but not the interaction with persisten= t congestion.
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-rec= overy-19#section-6.3.2
"When a PTO timer expires, new or previously-sent data may not be
available to send and packets may still be in flight. A sender can
be blocked from sending new data in the future if packets are left in
= flight. Under these conditions, a sender SHOULD mark any packets
still in flight as lost. If a sender wishes to establish delivery of
= packets still in flight, it MAY send an ack-eliciting packet and re-
arm the PTO timer instead."

I think if you follow either suggestion listed, you shouldn't inadvert= ently declare persistent congestion from being idle, since in one case yo= u immediately declare packets lost and in the other, you'd only declare p= ersistent congestion if the subsequent PTOs established it?

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Your interpretation of RFC5661 looks correct and is different from wha= t's in the QUIC recovery doc. But the implications are that it's ok to s= end an unlimited sized burst into the network as long as you only drained= the pipe very recently. I think that recommendation is a poor one unles= s the window sizes are fairly small(in which case they'd be close to IW10= anyway).

The sender is bursting packets into the network, which previously did = not cause loss because they were ack-clocked, but one or more buffers on = the network doesn't have enough space for the full CWND. It seems likely= this could cause losses for other flows sharing the link as well. This = could happen frequently in HTTP applications such as DASH video playback.=

NewCWV is already referenced for decaying CWND after idle. I could ch= ange the text to say nothing about reducing CWND to IW upon full idle and= instead say you shouldn't burst more than IW into the network at once ev= er, and senders may use pacing, ACK-clocking, and/or timers to accomplish= that?

https= ://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7661 may also be relevant to this topic?

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= ----==_mimepart_5cae4ac16d7f8_7f5e3fb063cd45bc8301a-- From nobody Wed Apr 10 13:01:22 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F64F12032A for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2019 13:01:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id X_1mnwePqZio for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2019 13:01:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 73052120330 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2019 13:01:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2019 13:01:17 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554926477; bh=OxNZaZSW2ceAkftxpNOo9+JI5uSEbeFoizDZzGWFWIA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=V4KI/ZsXVEsZPQlFKyR5+a8wn+dT2G4if2Jn53ZSxr6cG0th/kzb5nwSFa3qu45OV UhZwcFvUUuEBHSdpAeXTDuEPwiD0EC3wNJIYRcB/FNfbJOK/q5Ak82OVA07M2s1qJv 5rk1mqAI5k48BO1GOVuH/LYfas/hBcu8eTDETa8A= From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] nonsensical MUST on frames fitting in packets (#2603) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cae4b8d5db2d_2b113fb7394d45c42307ec"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2019 20:01:20 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cae4b8d5db2d_2b113fb7394d45c42307ec Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've answered this very question, including recently, to people who were trying to understand QUIC framing. The text is definitely not nonsensical, and unless you want people experimenting with making frames go across packet boundaries (yes, you _can_ do this and use packet numbers as a way to reassemble pieces of a frame), I'd keep the MUST. I don't see a reason to drop the MUST. This isn't editorial. The MUST is not implied anywhere. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2603#issuecomment-481840579 ----==_mimepart_5cae4b8d5db2d_2b113fb7394d45c42307ec Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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I'm in the other camp. The spec doesn't describe means for frames to span packets, so how does a receiving peer detect that this has occurred, and how would it react if it did?

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I'm still not understanding how you get a frame to span packet boundaries. I mean, you could do that, but the first one would cause the connection to close and if a subsequent one arrived first who knows what it would be interpreted as.

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Praveen, I think this is better, but tell me if you'd like to add/change something else? 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Praveen, I think this is better, but tell me if you'd like to add/change something else?

Fixes #2554

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2605

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[ci skip] From nobody Wed Apr 10 13:21:45 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9615B120153 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2019 13:21:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Mipw3Ok_3wPk for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2019 13:21:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E6FC21200C1 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2019 13:21:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2019 13:21:41 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554927701; bh=7rwO3x54Zlhvr+M5hIzieMok3R9vhzulaI+2H7BCyDE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=lPDu3sJCRO+LhSVVFWYCANmHCDMHeZZIWv7sa44YCN2JTwvPFeyywBghsHKlYpuc8 n0LPjXRnsF1IPl0CuIjzYgyLqW1EaILsVPnhifCM2EcNh1XUjP7vGUfoZkDWCvU2ws E2tPq1RvPVISvJzpDf5ZANgucCVFWOMoPvHb3tKQ= From: Praveen Balasubramanian Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Define idle period for congestion control (#2555) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cae5055a6e4a_414d3ff346ed45bc34748b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: pravb X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2019 20:21:45 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cae5055a6e4a_414d3ff346ed45bc34748b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I guess the bigger question is what are we attempting to document in this draft. Is it whats in the TCP standard RFCs OR what most current TCP implementations do OR what the Linux kernel implementation does? By documenting NewReno instead of CUBIC we've chosen to not document the state-of-the-art and erred on the side of simplicity. In the spirit of that I think handling idle period and app limited states are optimizations for better network citizenship on cetrtain type of networks and not a hard requirement. For this particular issue I'd like to point out that the Windows TCP implementation has worked fine without handling the idle period (not capping cwnd burst and neither pacing). The idle cwnd restart knob in Windows is off by defualt and I believe Google TCP turns it off on Linux as well. Yes RFC 7661 is relevant and I think I cited it on the application limited case handling issue. I think there is a fine balance between managing burst size and taking advantage of TSO like optimizations. For example in WAN and DC bulk flows it might better to burst higher than IW with TSO for CPU efficiency than to pace and on the Internet pacing might be better. But I like your direction on this since it sidesteps what is meant by "idle". How about framing it as a suggestion and not a requirement. Something along the lines of: Bursts of more than IW into the network at once may cause losses. Implemementations should consider using pacing, ACK-clocking, and/or timers to minimize bursts. Paging @janaiyengar to this issue as well. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2555#issuecomment-481847107 ----==_mimepart_5cae5055a6e4a_414d3ff346ed45bc34748b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I guess the bigger question is what are we attempting to document in t= his draft. Is it whats in the TCP standard RFCs OR what most current TCP = implementations do OR what the Linux kernel implementation does? By docum= enting NewReno instead of CUBIC we've chosen to not document the state-of= -the-art and erred on the side of simplicity. In the spirit of that I thi= nk handling idle period and app limited states are optimizations for bett= er network citizenship on cetrtain type of networks and not a hard requir= ement.

For this particular issue I'd like to point out that the Windows TCP i= mplementation has worked fine without handling the idle period (not cappi= ng cwnd burst and neither pacing). The idle cwnd restart knob in Windows = is off by defualt and I believe Google TCP turns it off on Linux as well.=

Yes RFC 7661 is relevant and I think I cited it on the application lim= ited case handling issue. I think there is a fine balance between managin= g burst size and taking advantage of TSO like optimizations. For example = in WAN and DC bulk flows it might better to burst higher than IW with TSO= for CPU efficiency than to pace and on the Internet pacing might be bett= er.

But I like your direction on this since it sidesteps what is meant by = "idle". How about framing it as a suggestion and not a requirement. Somet= hing along the lines of:

Bursts of more than IW into the network at once may cause losses. Impl= emementations should consider using pacing, ACK-clocking, and/or timers t= o minimize bursts.

Paging @janaiyengar to this issue as well.

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Thanks, Ian, responses below. > -retain inadequate history, as suggested in {{?RFC6298}}. Changing these -computations is currently an open research question. - -min_rtt is the minimum RTT measured over the connection, prior to adjusting by -ack delay. Ignoring ack delay for min RTT prevents intentional or unintentional -underestimation of min RTT, which in turn prevents underestimating smoothed RTT. - -A sender calculates both smoothed RTT (SRTT) and RTT variance (RTTVAR) similar -to those specified in {{?RFC6298}}. Note that computing smoothed_rtt does not -use ack_delay for the first RTT sample, because doing so would result in a -smoothed_rtt that is smaller than the min_rtt. - -On every newly acknowledged ack-eliciting largest acked: +## Measuring and Reporting Host Delay {#host-delay} + +An endpoint measures the delay incurred between when a packet is received and See my response above. > -ack delay. Ignoring ack delay for min RTT prevents intentional or unintentional -underestimation of min RTT, which in turn prevents underestimating smoothed RTT. - -A sender calculates both smoothed RTT (SRTT) and RTT variance (RTTVAR) similar -to those specified in {{?RFC6298}}. Note that computing smoothed_rtt does not -use ack_delay for the first RTT sample, because doing so would result in a -smoothed_rtt that is smaller than the min_rtt. - -On every newly acknowledged ack-eliciting largest acked: +## Measuring and Reporting Host Delay {#host-delay} + +An endpoint measures the delay incurred between when a packet is received and +when the corresponding acknowledgment is sent. The endpoint encodes this host +delay for the largest acknowledged packet in the Ack Delay field of an ACK frame +(see Section 19.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}). This allows the receiver of the ACK +to adjust for any host delays - importantly, for delayed acknowledgements - when I'm not sure I follow. It's fine to use commas and dashes together. Can you suggest a rephrasing? > -On every newly acknowledged ack-eliciting largest acked: +## Measuring and Reporting Host Delay {#host-delay} + +An endpoint measures the delay incurred between when a packet is received and +when the corresponding acknowledgment is sent. The endpoint encodes this host +delay for the largest acknowledged packet in the Ack Delay field of an ACK frame +(see Section 19.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}). This allows the receiver of the ACK +to adjust for any host delays - importantly, for delayed acknowledgements - when +estimating the path RTT. In certain deployments, a packet might be held in the +OS kernel or elsewhere on the host before being processed by the QUIC +stack. Where possible, an endpoint SHOULD include these delays when populating +the Ack Delay field in an ACK frame. + +An endpoint MUST NOT excessively delay acknowledgements of ack-eliciting +packets. The maximum ack delay is communicated in the max_ack_delay transport +parameter, see Section 18.1 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}. max_ack_delay implies an https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/imply --> "imply" is commonly used to indicate necessary consequence, not just inference (I suspect your dislike is to this meaning of imply). The way I read it, max_ack_delay specifies a transport parameter value which implies the contract. > ~~~ latest_rtt = ack_time - send_time_of_largest_acked ~~~ -First RTT sample: +An endpoint uses only locally observed times in generating RTT samples and does Fair, it's not necessary yet, so removed. > ~~~ latest_rtt = ack_time - send_time_of_largest_acked ~~~ -First RTT sample: +An endpoint uses only locally observed times in generating RTT samples and does +not adjust for any host delays reported by the peer ({{host-delay}}). + +A peer reports host delays for only the largest acknowledged packet in an ACK +frame, which is assumed by subsequent computations of smoothed_rtt and rttvar in I've rewritten the para, so hopefully it reads better. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

Thanks, Ian, responses below.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> -retain inadequate history, as suggested in {{?RFC6298}}. Changing these
-computations is currently an open research question.
-
-min_rtt is the minimum RTT measured over the connection, prior to adjusting by
-ack delay.  Ignoring ack delay for min RTT prevents intentional or unintentional
-underestimation of min RTT, which in turn prevents underestimating smoothed RTT.
-
-A sender calculates both smoothed RTT (SRTT) and RTT variance (RTTVAR) similar
-to those specified in {{?RFC6298}}.  Note that computing smoothed_rtt does not
-use ack_delay for the first RTT sample, because doing so would result in a
-smoothed_rtt that is smaller than the min_rtt.
-
-On every newly acknowledged ack-eliciting largest acked:
+## Measuring and Reporting Host Delay {#host-delay}
+
+An endpoint measures the delay incurred between when a packet is received and

See my response above.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> -ack delay.  Ignoring ack delay for min RTT prevents intentional or unintentional
-underestimation of min RTT, which in turn prevents underestimating smoothed RTT.
-
-A sender calculates both smoothed RTT (SRTT) and RTT variance (RTTVAR) similar
-to those specified in {{?RFC6298}}.  Note that computing smoothed_rtt does not
-use ack_delay for the first RTT sample, because doing so would result in a
-smoothed_rtt that is smaller than the min_rtt.
-
-On every newly acknowledged ack-eliciting largest acked:
+## Measuring and Reporting Host Delay {#host-delay}
+
+An endpoint measures the delay incurred between when a packet is received and
+when the corresponding acknowledgment is sent.  The endpoint encodes this host
+delay for the largest acknowledged packet in the Ack Delay field of an ACK frame
+(see Section 19.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}).  This allows the receiver of the ACK
+to adjust for any host delays - importantly, for delayed acknowledgements - when

I'm not sure I follow. It's fine to use commas and dashes together. Can you suggest a rephrasing?

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> -On every newly acknowledged ack-eliciting largest acked:
+## Measuring and Reporting Host Delay {#host-delay}
+
+An endpoint measures the delay incurred between when a packet is received and
+when the corresponding acknowledgment is sent.  The endpoint encodes this host
+delay for the largest acknowledged packet in the Ack Delay field of an ACK frame
+(see Section 19.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}).  This allows the receiver of the ACK
+to adjust for any host delays - importantly, for delayed acknowledgements - when
+estimating the path RTT.  In certain deployments, a packet might be held in the
+OS kernel or elsewhere on the host before being processed by the QUIC
+stack. Where possible, an endpoint SHOULD include these delays when populating
+the Ack Delay field in an ACK frame.
+
+An endpoint MUST NOT excessively delay acknowledgements of ack-eliciting
+packets.  The maximum ack delay is communicated in the max_ack_delay transport
+parameter, see Section 18.1 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}.  max_ack_delay implies an

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/imply --> "imply" is commonly used to indicate necessary consequence, not just inference (I suspect your dislike is to this meaning of imply).

The way I read it, max_ack_delay specifies a transport parameter value which implies the contract.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  ~~~
 latest_rtt = ack_time - send_time_of_largest_acked
 ~~~
 
-First RTT sample:
+An endpoint uses only locally observed times in generating RTT samples and does

Fair, it's not necessary yet, so removed.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  ~~~
 latest_rtt = ack_time - send_time_of_largest_acked
 ~~~
 
-First RTT sample:
+An endpoint uses only locally observed times in generating RTT samples and does
+not adjust for any host delays reported by the peer ({{host-delay}}).
+
+A peer reports host delays for only the largest acknowledged packet in an ACK
+frame, which is assumed by subsequent computations of smoothed_rtt and rttvar in

I've rewritten the para, so hopefully it reads better.

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@ianswett : The first one would cause the connection to close because the receiver is enforcing a MUST. It's not clear to me why requiring the same thing of the sender is a problem.

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My goal is to document the best practices and reference existing RFCs wh= enever possible. And yes, my understanding is that everyone disables slow = start after idle, so I'd like to come up with something I think is more lik= ely to be deployed.

When QUIC was started, Cubic wasn't an RFC, which is the other reason we= documented Reno instead of Cubic, FYI.

I'll write up a PR based on your suggestion and hopefully we can get som= e text we all think is acceptable.

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@LPardue: We require the receiver to close the connection when it do= esn't understand how to handle a frame that is split across packets, why no= t require the sender to not do this thing that will cause the receiver to c= lose the connection.

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Yeah I thought about this... your point is taken in the PTO case, but th= ere is a difference between the PTO case and this case. What you suggest is= exactly what quicly implements right now. Without PRR however, the sender = waits for half an RTT until it is able to send out the retransmission, sinc= e it waits until inflight < cwnd before sending anything.

I'm suggesting (and this is what TCP does) that we allow one pa= cket of rtx to go through before applying the cwnd clamp. Maybe this pseduo= code isn't the best, but it's what I could come up with to capture that int= ent.

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= ----==_mimepart_5cae54bda8585_32da3fb161ed45c025669a-- From nobody Wed Apr 10 13:50:18 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B0AF1205FF for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2019 13:50:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nq-56pTtaOL4 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2019 13:50:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 23D41120114 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2019 13:50:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2019 13:50:14 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554929414; bh=c/9kKaVw+ccbpbIivdj4sQ1Hovqf5jsOgkzz4aEAroI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=l0xcCPH7ALDlPs8jfyXn+uFX53qN8CRNYJslvB13CQr3xeye7IcPm+W5fkyMtRF9b PMXyC3EF1smAuv8fFrgwOq+bsQDfU9FcJdov4Xw78IfN8R0nOXFgVINo6COHl9cX4Y 8o3+1OjCab1Ll7yQUAuI9lzi/XqDyun8dXB0e4iw= From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Idle timeout needs more description and a recommendation (#2602) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cae57062a11_41003fdd548d45c04254ae"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2019 20:50:16 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cae57062a11_41003fdd548d45c04254ae Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I like @kazuho's formulation of the min(), but I don't think we need to state what the server or client _should_ do, rather we note the cost of using a dead connection. (I'm not opposed to saying that the endpoints _should not_ use potentially dead connections, but I don't think it's necessary.) The discussion on PINGs is not about NATs, to be clear. The text we have right now on keeping connections alive with PINGs leaves it up to the application to decide when to send a PING. Without knowing when this connection might be closed by QUIC underneath due to an idle timeout, when should the application send a PING? I believe there's a problem here that QUIC "negotiates" its idle timeout with the peer (I know @martinthomson doesn't agree, but an endpoint does need to figure out how to use the peer's value), and HTTP is expected to keep the connection alive based on whether requests are pending or not, but we don't talk anywhere about the interaction between the two. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2602#issuecomment-481860087 ----==_mimepart_5cae57062a11_41003fdd548d45c04254ae Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I like @kazuho's formulation of the min(), but I don't think we= need to state what the server or client should do, rather we no= te the cost of using a dead connection. (I'm not opposed to saying that t= he endpoints should not use potentially dead connections, but I = don't think it's necessary.)

The discussion on PINGs is not about NATs, to be clear. The text we ha= ve right now on keeping connections alive with PINGs leaves it up to the = application to decide when to send a PING. Without knowing when this conn= ection might be closed by QUIC underneath due to an idle timeout, when sh= ould the application send a PING?

I believe there's a problem here that QUIC "negotiates" its idle timeo= ut with the peer (I know @martinthomson doesn't agree, but = an endpoint does need to figure out how to use the peer's value), and HTT= P is expected to keep the connection alive based on whether requests are = pending or not, but we don't talk anywhere about the interaction between = the two.

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I like @kazuho's formulation of the min(), but I don't think we need to= state what the server or client should do, rather we note the cost of usin= g a dead connection.

To clarify, my point is that the logic and endpoint uses for detecting a= potentially dead connection depends on if the peer is allowed to use min()= for determining how long the connection state needs to be maintained by th= e peer.

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Conflating keep-alive with timeout is problematic due to hysteresis. You need to send keep alive at perhaps half the timeout interval, and if you do, the connection will not timeout, which is against the idea of a timeout.

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I'm in the other camp. The spec doesn't describe means for frames to s= pan packets, so how does a receiving peer detect that this has occurred, = and how would it react if it did?

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I am favor of adopting the PR. Regarding @janaiyengar's concern= , maybe we can rephrase the paragragh right before from:

The payload of QUIC packets, after removing packet protection, commo= nly consists of a sequence of frames, as shown in Figure 7. Version Negotia= tion, Stateless Reset, and Retry packets do not contain frames.

to :

The Payload of QUIC packets, after removing packet protection, consi= sts of a sequence of complete frames, as shown in Figure 7. Version Negotia= tion, Stateless Reset, and Retry packets do carry the Payload.

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The definition of reserved ranges (AKA GREASE values) seems a bit off, e.g. section 10.3 in draft 19:

   Additionally, each code of the format "0x1f * N + 0x21" for integer
   values of N (that is, "0x21", "0x40", ..., through
   "0x3FFFFFFFFFFFFFFE") MUST NOT be assigned by IANA.

The frame type is sent on the wire using a varint, which is limited to a value of 2^62. Should we only reserve frame types that can be sent on the wire?

This applies also to settings parameters and unidirectional stream types.

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----==_mimepart_5cae63294a4f5_6e2d3fb1eced45bc13032f-- From nobody Wed Apr 10 15:45:00 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26D851203E8 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2019 15:44:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vr81zyxfkPd9 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2019 15:44:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9D734120347 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2019 15:44:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2019 15:44:56 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554936296; bh=RuU3YcUey9cuiMZfAq2G5J4skFEqQK/hvDfeZmWHap8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=sPhZlGhlpm5gnNqvK/OJ/Wl2UE+yfyj/lQuv0ZBHztFO2rzDKEcznHTEhYcK1INx6 34lHYbeTXuOyiXYah9GEubV955Gg4FfXnIxYJ5c3eIfV+csncLuUGOwhjh8XpvaI4C TrwdxuVewNESFFuAujMwpE5nnl8nGqsCjFp3gRU0= From: Vidhi Goel Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] RTT Initial measurement (#2607) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cae71e877e8b_b713fe2300d45c4372f7"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: goelvidhi X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2019 22:44:59 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cae71e877e8b_b713fe2300d45c4372f7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On receiving the INITIAL packet, the server passes the CRYPTO data to TLS which then does a bunch of things like computing handshake key, generate INITIAL data etc and then passes it to QUIC. From measurements, it takes ~10ms before the server sends out the INITIAL packet and ACK for client's INITIAL packet. Now, the first RTT measurement doesn't include ack delay. For a very low RTT connection (two machines connected back to back via ethernet), this causes the initial RTT ~ 10ms, which is too high for such a connection. Even after subsequent RTT samples of 0ms, would take a long time to normalize the high initial value. Is there a reason why we don't subtract ack_delay from measured RTT for the INITIAL packet? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2607 ----==_mimepart_5cae71e877e8b_b713fe2300d45c4372f7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

On receiving the INITIAL packet, the server passes the CRYPTO data to TLS which then does a bunch of things like computing handshake key, generate INITIAL data etc and then passes it to QUIC. From measurements, it takes ~10ms before the server sends out the INITIAL packet and ACK for client's INITIAL packet.

Now, the first RTT measurement doesn't include ack delay. For a very low RTT connection (two machines connected back to back via ethernet), this causes the initial RTT ~ 10ms, which is too high for such a connection. Even after subsequent RTT samples of 0ms, would take a long time to normalize the high initial value.

Is there a reason why we don't subtract ack_delay from measured RTT for the INITIAL packet?

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[ci skip] From nobody Wed Apr 10 18:20:55 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BA151200DE for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2019 18:20:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GviriIzBRO03 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2019 18:20:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BE68C120075 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2019 18:20:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2019 18:20:50 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554945650; bh=zPSmUg3JzQyTPHb7ittQgnC0Vn3kdA/k7elAyPjcjlk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=FQLVhqKQOQfwrHtQzwAUIL5oQC3nlEWtiNuDoiIC4tToAMvetqCLCYyL9P4ozBJh+ zAaeXluMO95FPgROgfkajSMkanq5IHdIYP7Jdqw8n5+pZFFNNUeyEpNGD+HhTfqzLI E4NQRjfNEf1xX1Pu/fvh7DkDfcdBCCrkHsfVd3Kg= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] nonsensical MUST on frames fitting in packets (#2603) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cae9672cdbbf_137a3fe2806d45b431117"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2019 01:20:54 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cae9672cdbbf_137a3fe2806d45b431117 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @janaiyengar > The MUST is not implied anywhere. It's implied everywhere. It's implied by the fact that UDP is lossy. It is implied in that there are rules for handling of malformed frames and mandates to generate a connection error in that case. You would prefer that it be explicit, I get that, but this is better described as an axiom. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2603#issuecomment-481929224 ----==_mimepart_5cae9672cdbbf_137a3fe2806d45b431117 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@janaiyengar

The MUST is not implied anywhere.

It's implied everywhere. It's implied by the fact that UDP is lossy. = It is implied in that there are rules for handling of malformed frames a= nd mandates to generate a connection error in that case.

You would prefer that it be explicit, I get that, but this is better d= escribed as an axiom.

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Are you suggesting that there is a world in which a frame type outside= of the range that can be expressed in the protocol can be reserved? Tha= t would seem to be a little academic.

There was a discussion of defining frame types to be integers in the 0= ..2^62-1 range, but I don't know if we ever got to writing that down. If= we do anything, that would be what I would do.

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= ----==_mimepart_5cae972e13786_64013ff6180d45b48209f-- From nobody Wed Apr 10 18:34:41 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD80A120126 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2019 18:34:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oLmU9BK-fcQM for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2019 18:34:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B2A0D120123 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2019 18:34:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2019 18:34:36 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554946476; bh=InZA1C/ZfNQWrK33KKwqKvo3vTD24KvlfgxLxIw1B7s=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=eAyFWoAvPklTijFEeh7S8JQkHeSMhY8wShLU4C1+9DfB0ZygSPL+KO5HL3XmtplD5 mfx0YvxzRMYAvoEtz+cundKkls3dp9lZU/yY3KaAHMYqOCvrmWcS6X4qtDW3JzPQzt TNHyPvpyyGido/R1epltBTGOHk4EyodF6x9vbjvk= From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] nonsensical MUST on frames fitting in packets (#2603) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cae99ac8cf90_52f93fdb392d45c019354c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2019 01:34:40 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cae99ac8cf90_52f93fdb392d45c019354c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit janaiyengar approved this pull request. @kazuho: This helps -- it changes the definition of a QUIC payload to only have partial frames, which means the question of partial frames doesn't arise. > @@ -2678,12 +2678,9 @@ Packet number encoding at a sender and decoding at a receiver are described in ## Frames and Frame Types {#frames} -The payload of QUIC packets, after removing packet protection, commonly consists -of a sequence of frames, as shown in {{packet-frames}}. Version Negotiation, -Stateless Reset, and Retry packets do not contain frames. - - +The payload of QUIC packets, after removing packet protection, commonly consist ```suggestion The payload of a QUIC packet, after removing packet protection, commonly consists ``` or "payload of QUIC packets, ... consists" > @@ -2678,12 +2678,9 @@ Packet number encoding at a sender and decoding at a receiver are described in ## Frames and Frame Types {#frames} -The payload of QUIC packets, after removing packet protection, commonly consists -of a sequence of frames, as shown in {{packet-frames}}. Version Negotiation, -Stateless Reset, and Retry packets do not contain frames. - - +The payload of QUIC packets, after removing packet protection, commonly consist ... maybe remove "commonly" as well, since the exceptions are listed next anyway? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2603#pullrequestreview-225291221 ----==_mimepart_5cae99ac8cf90_52f93fdb392d45c019354c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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@kazuho: This helps -- it changes the definition of a QUIC payl= oad to only have partial frames, which means the question of partial fram= es doesn't arise.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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or "payload of QUIC packets, ... consists"

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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You would prefer that it be explicit, I get that, but this is better d= escribed as an axiom.

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I think what we're really discussing here is whether we need the MUST in the sentence "When sending data after becoming idle, a sender MUST reset its congestion window to the initial congestion window". I'm in agreement with what I'm sensing here -- that we don't need a requirement, but we can discuss the implications of various decisions here and current best practices. Higher-level note, yeah, we always wanted to document current best practices, rather than what was in TCP or even linux TCP. I think most things came from linux TCP because that was what we were familiar with. FWIW, agreed that Cubic wasn't an RFC at the time, but it was close to becoming one, and we did discuss it. We decided that it was too complex and adds a ton more complexity to this document. We wanted to have something simple but good enough that implementations could have as a starting point, and then move on to more esoteric algorithms as deployments needed. 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RFC7661 is already cited in the section, and it was added there to def= er to it so we didn't have to delve into details in this doc.

I think what we're really discussing here is whether we need the MUST = in the sentence "When sending data after becoming idle, a sender MUST res= et its congestion window to the initial congestion window". I'm in agree= ment with what I'm sensing here -- that we don't need a requirement, but = we can discuss the implications of various decisions here and current bes= t practices.

Higher-level note, yeah, we always wanted to document current best pra= ctices, rather than what was in TCP or even linux TCP. I think most thin= gs came from linux TCP because that was what we were familiar with.

FWIW, agreed that Cubic wasn't an RFC at the time, but it was close to= becoming one, and we did discuss it. We decided that it was too complex= and adds a ton more complexity to this document. We wanted to have somet= hing simple but good enough that implementations could have as a starting= point, and then move on to more esoteric algorithms as deployments neede= d.

(I'll disagree that Cubic is the best known CC at the moment -- unless= you're talking about DC environments, it's not.)

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I'm quite familiar with RFC 4960, and it does not have anything that is particularly helpful here. @ianswett: I didn't see an fq-quantum in the code, but I could also be missing something.

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Thanks for the discussion, I updated #2605 based on this, though I'm a bit concerned that SHOULD is too weak in regards to bursts into the network. Then again, if that's what Windows is doing, maybe we have to accept the reality of current deployments?

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My first suggestion is "SendOneOrMorePacketsAsCongestionControlAllows()" which is insanely verbose. An alternative is to say: // Time threshold loss Detection if (DetectLostPackets(pn_space)): // PRR allows immediately sending a packet SendOnePacket() SendDataAsCwndAllows() We don't reference PRR anywhere I can find in the existing recovery text. Should we? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2604#issuecomment-481940778 ----==_mimepart_5caea639319a9_3e563fa0ad6d45c4155777 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Ah, that makes sense, thanks for clarifying.

My first suggestion is "SendOneOrMorePacketsAsCongestionControlAllows(= )" which is insanely verbose. An alternative is to say:

// Time threshold loss Detection
if (DetectLostPackets(pn_space)):
// PRR allows immediately sending a packet
SendOnePacket()
SendDataAsCwndAllows()

We don't reference PRR anywhere I can find in the existing recovery te= xt. Should we?

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Because the server could be blocked until more packets are received, the client -MUST start the crypto retransmission timer even if there is no unacknowledged -CRYPTO data. If the timer expires and the client has no CRYPTO data to -retransmit and does not have Handshake keys, it SHOULD send an Initial packet in -a UDP datagram of at least 1200 bytes. If the client has Handshake keys, it -SHOULD send a Handshake packet. - -On each consecutive expiration of the crypto timer without receiving an -acknowledgement for a new packet, the sender SHOULD double the crypto -retransmission timeout and set a timer for this period. +MUST ensure that the crypto retransmission timer is set if there is +unacknowledged crypto data or if the client does not yet have 1-RTT keys. +If the crypto retransmission timer expires before the client has 1-RTT keys, +it is possible that the client may not have any crypto data to retransmit. +The client MUST send a new packet to allow the server to continue sending ```suggestion However, the client MUST send a new packet, containing only PING or PADDDING frames if necessary, to allow the server to continue sending ``` > -When a crypto packet is sent, the sender MUST set a timer for the crypto -timeout period. This timer MUST be updated when a new crypto packet is sent. -Upon timeout, the sender MUST retransmit all unacknowledged CRYPTO data if -possible. +When a crypto packet is sent, the sender MUST set a timer for twice the smoothed +RTT. This timer MUST be updated when a new crypto packet is sent and when +an acknowledgement is received which computes a new RTT sample. Upon timeout, +the sender MUST retransmit all unacknowledged CRYPTO data if possible. The +sender MUST NOT declare in flight crypto packets as lost when the crypto timer ```suggestion sender MUST NOT declare in-flight crypto packets as lost when the crypto timer ``` > @@ -1151,7 +1158,8 @@ OnLossDetectionTimeout(): DetectLostPackets(pn_space) // Retransmit crypto data if no packets were lost // and there are still crypto packets in flight. - else if (crypto packets are in flight): + else if (crypto packets are in flight && + crypto data to send): I still don't get this. If crypto packets are in flight, doesn't that mean there is unacked crypto data to send? Why is this second predicate useful? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2590#pullrequestreview-225302634 ----==_mimepart_5caea9108215a_2aee3fa2a76d45b43206e6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

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should be armed until data has been received from the=0D
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-retransmit and does not have Handshake keys, it SHOULD send an Initial p=
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-On each consecutive expiration of the crypto timer without receiving an=0D=

-acknowledgement for a new packet, the sender SHOULD double the crypto=0D=

-retransmission timeout and set a timer for this period.=0D
+MUST ensure that the crypto retransmission timer is set if there is=0D
+unacknowledged crypto data or if the client does not yet have 1-RTT keys=
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+If the crypto retransmission timer expires before the client has 1-RTT k=
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+it is possible that the client may not have any crypto data to retransmi=
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+The client MUST send a new packet to allow the server to continue sendin=
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-The client MUST send a new packet to allow th=
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DING frames if necessary, to allow the server to continue sending=0D
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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

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-When a crypto packet is sent, the sender MUST set a timer for the crypto=
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-Upon timeout, the sender MUST retransmit all unacknowledged CRYPTO data =
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+When a crypto packet is sent, the sender MUST set a timer for twice the =
smoothed=0D
+RTT.  This timer MUST be updated when a new crypto packet is sent and wh=
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+an acknowledgement is received which computes a new RTT sample. Upon tim=
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+the sender MUST retransmit all unacknowledged CRYPTO data if possible.  =
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+sender MUST NOT declare in flight crypto packets as lost when the crypto=
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I still don't get this. If crypto packets are in flight, doesn't that = mean there is unacked crypto data to send? Why is this second predicate u= seful?

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No point in levying requirements on them.

Closes #2174.

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This might not be possible if a cloud load balancer only forwards QUIC with TLS and terminates TLS otherwise.

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----==_mimepart_5caed0117e6b1_380b3fcc162d45c0998b1-- From nobody Thu Apr 11 02:02:46 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDBC512028B for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 02:02:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KLF8KQLBIRci for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 02:02:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 69C721200FC for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 02:02:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2019 02:02:43 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554973363; bh=0YH04xgE9pNvxKmkv7fekYQ6LGk1jyyr7YDT7SfL2kQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=tJZTSepP6SDbSBP03WRB0H4ArkpPktZdhwLTY+6Wzwn85OFLU7oBV2kc8CWBha0gO 88ekYjXHFQI66TV2cP/sw35ZRvBwZT3pQjBnFtPidiocgA58Wtsq7gqqHc6s6FEADY SK0Xl4RqXE6re5s6j1hvpjub80/Ue2YhWc6my9Ms= From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/3 reserved value range (#2606) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5caf02b36853e_253c3fcf112d45b8187996"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2019 09:02:46 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5caf02b36853e_253c3fcf112d45b8187996 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, 11 Apr 2019, 02:23 Martin Thomson, wrote: > Are you suggesting that there is a world in which a frame type outside of > the range that can be expressed in the protocol can be reserved? That would > seem to be a little academic. > I think we agree this situation is odd. > There was a discussion of defining frame types to be integers in the > 0..2^62-1 range, but I don't know if we ever got to writing that down. If > we do anything, that would be what I would do. > As a start, I'll make a PR to fix up all reserved ranges to fall into sensible limits. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2606#issuecomment-482031610 ----==_mimepart_5caf02b36853e_253c3fcf112d45b8187996 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 11 Apr 2019, 02:23 Martin Thomson, <notifications@github.com&g= t; wrote:

> Are you suggesting that there is a world in which a frame type outsi= de of
> the range that can be expressed in the protocol can be reserved? Tha= t would
> seem to be a little academic.
>

I think we agree this situation is odd.

> There was a discussion of defining frame types to be integers in the=
> 0..2^62-1 range, but I don't know if we ever got to writing that= down. If
> we do anything, that would be what I would do.
>
As a start, I'll make a PR to fix up all reserved ranges to fall into=
sensible limits.

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+1 to the idea that ack-delay should be intentionally introduced delay, since almost anything on path(including the local host NIC/OS/Firmware) can delay things without the receiver's control.

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The reason to not subtract ack_delay on the first ACK is it could allo= w the peer to manipulate the SRTT, which may be particularly dangerous at= the beginning of a connection. As a mitigation, the current text in 4.1= of Recovery says:
"In order to quickly complete the handshake and avoid spurious
retransmissions due to crypto retransmission timeouts, crypto packets
= SHOULD use a very short ack delay, such as the local timer
granularity. ACK frames MAY be sent immediately when the crypto
stack indicates all data for that packet number space has been
received."
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-recov= ery-19#section-4.1

We could add some text indicating that sending an ACK immediately impr= oves the first RTT sample if that seems helpful?

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1151,7 +1158,8 @@ OnLossDetectionTimeout():
     DetectLostPackets(pn_space)
   // Retransmit crypto data if no packets were lost
   // and there are still crypto packets in flight.
-  else if (crypto packets are in flight):
+  else if (crypto packets are in flight &&
+           crypto data to send):

Crypto packets could be in flight because of a timer based retransmission, but the original was ACked.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1151,7 +1158,8 @@ OnLossDetectionTimeout():
     DetectLostPackets(pn_space)
   // Retransmit crypto data if no packets were lost
   // and there are still crypto packets in flight.
-  else if (crypto packets are in flight):
+  else if (crypto packets are in flight &&
+           crypto data to send):

See issue #1964

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[ci skip] From nobody Thu Apr 11 12:26:27 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C86FE12060F for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 12:26:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HcAOsUGgHpLS for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 12:26:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 367A3120604 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 12:26:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2019 12:26:23 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1555010783; bh=rEEEmUuyJjIcs/J5RSDM6F2k62wDEfK982E7c8yKR3Y=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=bgAjf/VFOmNO7iWfV5BiY2MVNO5PP31hEGdd8KkeIAwNf312GNUv3IV8xAIZ+VesN KGbTFhODxWYQK1y2sWe1rnna8HCYip9azCKmW3cQn5dqaNRKakPaEyk2X+TjWfKNx4 IwOtlW6h7q5du1dpWwBCv5qdSopGLzYI1NHZ4JrE= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rewrite of RTT estimation section (#2592) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5caf94dff486_46283f8579cd45b8161369"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2019 19:26:26 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5caf94dff486_46283f8579cd45b8161369 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ianswett commented on this pull request. > -ack delay. Ignoring ack delay for min RTT prevents intentional or unintentional -underestimation of min RTT, which in turn prevents underestimating smoothed RTT. - -A sender calculates both smoothed RTT (SRTT) and RTT variance (RTTVAR) similar -to those specified in {{?RFC6298}}. Note that computing smoothed_rtt does not -use ack_delay for the first RTT sample, because doing so would result in a -smoothed_rtt that is smaller than the min_rtt. - -On every newly acknowledged ack-eliciting largest acked: +## Measuring and Reporting Host Delay {#host-delay} + +An endpoint measures the delay incurred between when a packet is received and +when the corresponding acknowledgment is sent. The endpoint encodes this host +delay for the largest acknowledged packet in the Ack Delay field of an ACK frame +(see Section 19.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}). This allows the receiver of the ACK +to adjust for any host delays - importantly, for delayed acknowledgements - when ```suggestion to adjust for any host delays, which is particularly important for delayed acknowledgements, when ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2592#discussion_r274605377 ----==_mimepart_5caf94dff486_46283f8579cd45b8161369 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> -On every newly acknowledged ack-eliciting largest acked:
+## Measuring and Reporting Host Delay {#host-delay}
+
+An endpoint measures the delay incurred between when a packet is received and
+when the corresponding acknowledgment is sent.  The endpoint encodes this host
+delay for the largest acknowledged packet in the Ack Delay field of an ACK frame
+(see Section 19.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}).  This allows the receiver of the ACK
+to adjust for any host delays - importantly, for delayed acknowledgements - when
+estimating the path RTT.  In certain deployments, a packet might be held in the
+OS kernel or elsewhere on the host before being processed by the QUIC
+stack. Where possible, an endpoint SHOULD include these delays when populating
+the Ack Delay field in an ACK frame.
+
+An endpoint MUST NOT excessively delay acknowledgements of ack-eliciting
+packets.  The maximum ack delay is communicated in the max_ack_delay transport
+parameter, see Section 18.1 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}.  max_ack_delay implies an

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  ~~~
 latest_rtt = ack_time - send_time_of_largest_acked
 ~~~
 
-First RTT sample:
+An endpoint uses only locally observed times in generating RTT samples and does
+not adjust for any host delays reported by the peer ({{host-delay}}).
+
+A peer reports host delays for only the largest acknowledged packet in an ACK
+frame, which is assumed by subsequent computations of smoothed_rtt and rttvar in
+adjusting for host delays.  As a result, an RTT sample is only generated using
+the largest acknowledged packet in the received ACK frame.
+
+To avoid generating multiple RTT samples using the same packet, an ACK frame
+SHOULD NOT be used to update RTT estimates if it does not newly acknowledge the
+largest acknowledged packet.
+
+An RTT sample MUST NOT be generated on receiving an ACK frame that does not
+newly acknowledge at least one ack-eliciting packet.  A peer does not send an

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While looking again at this I think the reserved values fall in valid li= mits, it is just unclear. I'm now confused by the text that explains that c= ertain ranges are restricted to being allocated to IESG or for private use.=

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How about just "unacked crypto data exists"? Is that enough to capture it? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2590#discussion_r274715535 ----==_mimepart_5cafd3db83d96_1ac83f9c3e0d45c054277 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1151,7 +1158,8 @@ OnLossDetectionTimeout():
     DetectLostPackets(pn_space)
   // Retransmit crypto data if no packets were lost
   // and there are still crypto packets in flight.
-  else if (crypto packets are in flight):
+  else if (crypto packets are in flight &&
+           crypto data to send):

Ah, ok. How about just "unacked crypto data exists"? Is that enough to capture it?

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1151,7 +1158,8 @@ OnLossDetectionTimeout():
     DetectLostPackets(pn_space)
   // Retransmit crypto data if no packets were lost
   // and there are still crypto packets in flight.
-  else if (crypto packets are in flight):
+  else if (crypto packets are in flight &&
+           crypto data to send):

I meant using just this one condition instead of the two that you have.

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Thanks Julian, but I think that a different form of consistency is better.

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[ci skip] From nobody Thu Apr 11 17:34:28 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A31F120337 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 17:34:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9s42JECOhYf3 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 17:34:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DD7D512010D for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 17:34:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2019 17:34:23 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1555029263; bh=Jo751OUoTl4qgAU4+gwmCtCYa587ml10I6YhUx+CQcg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=lFiD4EjjnuX02cLEcZ2NKwbRo54TNnK7X/yehvHBtKmtgtF3q6icptptDwcUqbiaR Gfm6xdPFtFKHL54sNUxK7jGmkG8p2kP0GLZSWMyw3K1/2KQV/P0Cv/FzwKggwE8Ech L6s54CDwdf+uYuZVeuVzJZkVwaay7iEBBEl08MCY= From: Benjamin Saunders Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Don't arm the handshake timer if there's no data (#2590) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cafdd0fb0a46_61803fa8b28d45c4137373"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: Ralith X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 00:34:27 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cafdd0fb0a46_61803fa8b28d45c4137373 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ralith commented on this pull request. > @@ -1151,7 +1158,8 @@ OnLossDetectionTimeout(): DetectLostPackets(pn_space) // Retransmit crypto data if no packets were lost // and there are still crypto packets in flight. - else if (crypto packets are in flight): + else if (crypto packets are in flight && + crypto data to send): I agree that this wording is confusing; in particular, it's not obvious that "to send" means "not yet acknowledged," except perhaps by process of elimination. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1151,7 +1158,8 @@ OnLossDetectionTimeout():
     DetectLostPackets(pn_space)
   // Retransmit crypto data if no packets were lost
   // and there are still crypto packets in flight.
-  else if (crypto packets are in flight):
+  else if (crypto packets are in flight &&
+           crypto data to send):

I agree that this wording is confusing; in particular, it's not obvious that "to send" means "not yet acknowledged," except perhaps by process of elimination.

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Asking mostly out of curiosity: do we need to scramble (or protect) othe= r fields of a long header packet as well?

The (original) argument for having a version alias is to protect against= accidental ossification of the protocol. That could happen on the other fi= elds of v1 packet as well; namely the non-invariant fields of the first oct= et and the CIDL fields. If we scramble CIDL fields, it would not matter if = the rest of the fields (e.g., token length) were kept as-is, assuming that = the CID lengths have enough randomness to randomize the position of such fi= elds.

Though the downside would be that servers would no longer be able to use= the token to decipher the actual value of version number field.

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=0D= there's also the risk of the crypto timer firing for long RTTs.
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=0D In quicly, we don't delay acks during the handshake to avoid these is= sues.
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That could be problematic for load balancers. But if they don=E2=80=99= t know the version it might be bad anyway?

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[ci skip] From nobody Thu Apr 11 22:41:27 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1433A120184 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 22:41:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id i3VnQnAAYEuW for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 22:41:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8675D12017A for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 22:41:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2019 22:41:23 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1555047683; bh=bEF/YzHgzDC6/SwvH0PuhL5mQrVkK/kM9qr2S4h4iho=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=hShtpXZ4FMqksE3+z6w7CnWio2ScH77YxrGzDweTFHht3V9MdDTr7w6/xsky7QgmV D/h8ND3yAOI/AG7AABv6EsJF44sfZRic7s98+P72VybPOmf7NGf9Ny0S6M9YiugtpY 8qTBdlfa8HSd9YHTCZQFN1WfLReu1UUPgN0CMyuQ= From: Lars Eggert Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Simplify UpdateRtt pseudocode (#2610) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cb025037f314_73c93fbefeed45c046048"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: larseggert X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 05:41:26 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cb025037f314_73c93fbefeed45c046048 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit larseggert commented on this pull request. > adjusted_rtt = latest_rtt - if (latest_rtt - min_rtt > ack_delay): + if (latest_rtt > min_rtt + ack_delay): adjusted_rtt = latest_rtt - ack_delay You can simply do `latest_rtt -= ack_delay` and then use `latest_rtt` instead of `adjusted_rtt` below, since `latest_rtt` is not used anywhere anymore -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>    adjusted_rtt = latest_rtt
-  if (latest_rtt - min_rtt > ack_delay):
+  if (latest_rtt > min_rtt + ack_delay):
     adjusted_rtt = latest_rtt - ack_delay

You can simply do latest_rtt -= ack_delay and then use latest_rtt instead of adjusted_rtt below, since latest_rtt is not used anywhere anymore

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1101,22 +1101,24 @@ OnAckReceived(ack, pn_space):
 
 
 UpdateRtt(latest_rtt, ack_delay):

Why is latest_rtt passed in as a parameter? It's already a global. Does this parameter differ from the global?

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>    adjusted_rtt = latest_rtt
-  if (latest_rtt - min_rtt > ack_delay):
+  if (latest_rtt > min_rtt + ack_delay):
     adjusted_rtt = latest_rtt - ack_delay

(But if you want to use the global here, maybe that adjustment to the global is wrong?)

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1101,22 +1101,24 @@ OnAckReceived(ack, pn_space):
 
 
 UpdateRtt(latest_rtt, ack_delay):
+  if (smoothed_rtt == 0):
+    // First RTT sample.

Shouldn't you adjust by ack_delay here?

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@martinthomson approved this pull request.

This looks good.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1101,22 +1101,24 @@ OnAckReceived(ack, pn_space):
 
 
 UpdateRtt(latest_rtt, ack_delay):

latest_rtt probably shouldn't be global.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1101,22 +1101,24 @@ OnAckReceived(ack, pn_space):
 
 
 UpdateRtt(latest_rtt, ack_delay):
+  if (smoothed_rtt == 0):
+    // First RTT sample.

I don't think so. #2607 covers this though.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>    adjusted_rtt = latest_rtt
-  if (latest_rtt - min_rtt > ack_delay):
+  if (latest_rtt > min_rtt + ack_delay):
     adjusted_rtt = latest_rtt - ack_delay

The prose relies on latest_rtt in descriptions. Adjusting that value directly would confuse things.

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@marten-seemann Maybe I should have been more specifi= c. The remaining vectors that are prone to ossification are:

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  • the Length field (the position is dependent on the values of CIDL fie= lds and the Token Length field)

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1101,22 +1101,24 @@ OnAckReceived(ack, pn_space):
 
 
 UpdateRtt(latest_rtt, ack_delay):

It's used in DetectLostPackets, so it needs to be global.
To avoid confusion with scoping rules, the function parameter should have a different name than the global variable though.

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----==_mimepart_5cb04ef7f0bc0_2cc13f94b80d45bc17619e-- From nobody Fri Apr 12 01:43:50 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C47EA120282 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 01:43:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wLjr1BMpdq5s for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 01:43:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 046B412025C for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 01:43:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 01:43:29 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1555058609; bh=olMNhRMoIMkc6/l/Os2XJp9/qqU7oaRpsgb3Wlxz/K0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=y9PieKqGcBYxGkGDc1Xfwvr2a34OcNmFntr26O7SUSDorf7xjpQRfE1WRyrydan12 TO4Udopy6ib/1lgTGcuYUemJeyR4AhzqbFsTPTYBVuoq9TGVLDO14l3a7wnFq9niNp ZZOY6t7bFbxaQ8+km0TzINTalPVyOUHDV6dgE7qo= From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] RTT Initial measurement (#2607) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cb04fb17cf6c_1dd23fbaa00d45b8224926"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 08:43:37 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cb04fb17cf6c_1dd23fbaa00d45b8224926 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @janaiyengar, we already have [text about this](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-recovery.html#crypto-handshake-data): > In order to quickly complete the handshake and avoid spurious retransmissions due to crypto retransmission timeouts, crypto packets SHOULD use a very short ack delay, such as the local timer granularity. ACK frames MAY be sent immediately when the crypto stack indicates all data for that packet number space has been received. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2607#issuecomment-482491524 ----==_mimepart_5cb04fb17cf6c_1dd23fbaa00d45b8224926 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@janaiyengar, we already have text about this:

In order to quickly complete the handshake and avoid spurious retransm= issions due to crypto retransmission timeouts, crypto packets SHOULD use = a very short ack delay, such as the local timer granularity. ACK frames M= AY be sent immediately when the crypto stack indicates all data for that = packet number space has been received.

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in DetectLostPackets, lost_pn is computed as

lost_pn = largest_acked_packet[pn_space] - kPacketThreshold

However, largest_acked_packet is initialied to zero

largest_acked_packet[pn_space] = 0

and so the subtraction can cause lost_pn to go negative when DetectLostPackets is called before an ACK is received (since it will be updated only in OnAckReceived.

Suggest to initialize largest_acked_packet to infinity and to explicitly check for this case.

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I support this proposal, since the way we=E2=80=99re initializing larg= est_acked_packet is wrong: we=E2=80=99re initializing it to 0, although w= e decided that 0 is a valid packet number.

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On reflection, I think the HTTP document does enough to describe everything - I have no positive editorial changes to make at this time. Closing this issue.

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----==_mimepart_5cb067f0c8456_670c3fdb5aad45c421497e-- From nobody Fri Apr 12 04:11:29 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9912120293 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 04:11:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uBBO3gYlYxaS for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 04:11:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-15.smtp.github.com (out-15.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 043D9120116 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 04:11:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 04:11:24 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1555067485; bh=0h9elIBLe16/6AC6xWW715p63b5xAZjnG8f/vaC56F4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=QGo93Q08vKja1Zs1OxH3awdLjLtZZmTYtY3sQ5atguC/PxlNZ0pW4eiVl5fu34uUj tJfotzl9vzje5/VvWB6JS5UuBNwJ4F/sYIBlp5W97vaRzWOjNc9SJyus9IVd2wP+g7 iCu25HLgEasiv8JunAKbaEKee6IqczRuETABhh5Y= From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Add further guidance related to unidirectional stream TPs (#2612) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cb0725ce6282_5b13f955acd45b82411b4"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 11:11:28 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cb0725ce6282_5b13f955acd45b82411b4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This goes someway to fixing #2559 and #2589. Setting low values for unidirectional stream transport parameters means that HTTP/3 connections get stuck early. Although client and server can dance around, sending *BLOCKED frames and increasing limits, we should clearly highlight the problem and suggest some sensible, bare minimum, values. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2612 -- Commit Summary -- * Add further guidance related to unidirectional stream TPs -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (15) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2612.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2612.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2612 ----==_mimepart_5cb0725ce6282_5b13f955acd45b82411b4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

This goes someway to fixing #2559 and #2589.

Setting low values for unidirectional stream transport parameters means that HTTP/3 connections get stuck early. Although client and server can dance around, sending *BLOCKED frames and increasing limits, we should clearly highlight the problem and suggest some sensible, bare minimum, values.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2612

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  • Add further guidance related to unidirectional stream TPs

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1151,7 +1158,8 @@ OnLossDetectionTimeout():
     DetectLostPackets(pn_space)
   // Retransmit crypto data if no packets were lost
   // and there are still crypto packets in flight.
-  else if (crypto packets are in flight):
+  else if (crypto packets are in flight &&
+           crypto data to send):

Sure, I took Jana's suggestion.

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[ci skip] From nobody Fri Apr 12 05:59:26 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 057591201BE for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 05:59:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uulds2A--sx2 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 05:59:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1CA0F12049E for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 05:59:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 05:59:22 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1555073962; bh=Mq1vEkfiLakW00z68MiQNK1eJOGjjT//xGRPKWgVH/U=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=PdKoIavyqV3CgdG7GqsLmyEj7nKqqeLc9aKFpmgCvP9TFcNr8Y+jSIffM+VI6C3e8 0kcN4m7TrgPF1A+XL5V2EJsBNL3p7QsR1b4Wtc81wXPsEeUeSHD//5YDJv8TxPKPSP bI0+rweySfWWhZDbiNh6Q+hugdekycYl/rstgsjc= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] RTT Initial measurement (#2607) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cb08baa21279_7c983fa1c32d45c03806d7"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 12:59:25 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cb08baa21279_7c983fa1c32d45c03806d7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That "MAY" is odd. You can always ACK immediately. Whether or not you "SHOULD" varies, but in this case maybe we SHOULD RECOMMEND an immediate ACK rather than having it be OPTIONAL. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2607#issuecomment-482565005 ----==_mimepart_5cb08baa21279_7c983fa1c32d45c03806d7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

That "MAY" is odd. You can always ACK immediately. Whether or not you "SHOULD" varies, but in this case maybe we SHOULD RECOMMEND an immediate ACK rather than having it be OPTIONAL.

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----==_mimepart_5cb08baa21279_7c983fa1c32d45c03806d7-- From nobody Fri Apr 12 05:59:34 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 149D31204C2 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 05:59:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LVUcClFryO8D for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 05:59:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 26A3812049E for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 05:59:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 05:59:24 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1555073964; bh=sq562n+eCBwZxzZ9vv49mmqLwhZFbktzJ69GojNz35c=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=vM8G2jjD3vmvfx3S7V48WMABLWxPYpMnyN8JKKoDCQJtxzrxTQ6/r3EWwRPvo5lxd l4+s8l08blFuC2h5A5vWD0ygtX1IdqcSvFUCvl5EDBCOiFAzGbhn2ymUQaFiOGGAJW 0flR6WOtFGyq7fKydl5Ln4UVGEvK8IRmonVgCMxc= From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove old spin bit references (#2613) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cb08bac344ec_37913feb122d45b4322264"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 12:59:28 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cb08bac344ec_37913feb122d45b4322264 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It just so happens that the old, independent Spin Bit document expires **today**. AFAIK the necessary pieces of text have been merged into the Transport document, making this I-D outdated and confusing to people randomly browsing the core docs repo. This change removes all references to the old spin bit doc. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2613 -- Commit Summary -- * Remove old spin bit references -- File Changes -- M README.md (8) D draft-ietf-quic-spin-exp.md (314) M tag.sh (1) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2613.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2613.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2613 ----==_mimepart_5cb08bac344ec_37913feb122d45b4322264 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

It just so happens that the old, independent Spin Bit document expires today. AFAIK the necessary pieces of text have been merged into the Transport document, making this I-D outdated and confusing to people randomly browsing the core docs repo.

This change removes all references to the old spin bit doc.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2613

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  • Remove old spin bit references

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----==_mimepart_5cb08bac344ec_37913feb122d45b4322264-- From nobody Fri Apr 12 06:33:48 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24E6A12064F for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 06:33:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vLyVbK9Wg9Ts for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 06:33:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o6.sgmail.github.com (o6.sgmail.github.com [192.254.113.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 33D681205CF for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 06:33:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=fBjbefg6RmIs+EmbHbk4U/ciWo4=; b=J+YY16bIj4eoWclc 7XICzKzs30VQPqA0+zKoJUfOycoYIa6zBBBOrY29i4OOrri5mOroGCpjK9A3Yp1l WSs8JkH40r75zbnWxrzPdP/TaS7pZk4uqyGvRVJD6J5UYx34ac48BRAvh/R1Ha87 dISOxaRVMSP6xQNOQALRr0ZiVyk= Received: by filter1044p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter1044p1las1-31195-5CB093B5-F 2019-04-12 13:33:41.134962909 +0000 UTC m=+297572.834688108 Received: from github-lowworker-1c220e1.cp1-iad.github.net (unknown [192.30.252.44]) by ismtpd0008p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id USiyyquXRgWcdTaj-zX9eQ for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 13:33:40.973 +0000 (UTC) Received: from github.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by github-lowworker-1c220e1.cp1-iad.github.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F37F21605B6 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 06:33:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 13:33:41 +0000 (UTC) From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] introduce a version alias mechanism (#2573) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cb093b4f2122_30a33ff9960d45c4127889"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak3gho/KtPaZzg/SYh9k+U8Ze/gAzktN5KzzcO 46ypRPyBr/QEScfswZby8ACfLMLbZMURjnVa6SkXCtqTph7I2VwqfiLwATgR6uRs30oQ7ku07G1KBt kRPGd57hbb9HIL9JoaxtPy5OUiIujZyEIj0iUXBqjw+UH1I1DINrrmZQ01O1arUXmMx+QmutVn7Ra7 0= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 13:33:47 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cb093b4f2122_30a33ff9960d45c4127889 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I do fear that this feature will make a generic, independent DDoS solution practically impossible. The more I talk to folks on the DDoS side, the more push back I get from **any** type of coordination between backend servers and the DDoS device. If there is no coordination, then the device will not understand these aliased version numbers; and therefore will not be able to reply with a version specific response (Retry). The **only** course of action the device will have is to send back a VN packet with a reserved field, and drop the incoming packets for new connections. This is definitely not ideal, as I have no idea how clients would use this for back off logic. I'd assume they'd immediately fallback to H2, but when would they try QUIC again? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2573#issuecomment-482576171 ----==_mimepart_5cb093b4f2122_30a33ff9960d45c4127889 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I do fear that this feature will make a generic, independent DDoS soluti= on practically impossible. The more I talk to folks on the DDoS side, the m= ore push back I get from any type of coordination between = backend servers and the DDoS device. If there is no coordination, then the = device will not understand these aliased version numbers; and therefore wil= l not be able to reply with a version specific response (Retry).

The only course of action the device will have is to se= nd back a VN packet with a reserved field, and drop the incoming packets fo= r new connections. This is definitely not ideal, as I have no idea how clie= nts would use this for back off logic. I'd assume they'd immediately fallba= ck to H2, but when would they try QUIC again?

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I do fear that this feature will make a generic, independent DDoS solu= tion practically impossible. The more I talk to folks on the DDoS side, t= he more push back I get from any type of coordination between backend ser= vers and the DDoS device. If there is no coordination, then the device wi= ll not understand these aliased version numbers; and therefore will not b= e able to reply with a version specific response (Retry).

We had this discussion on the NY interim, and we concluded that it's a= design feature of QUIC that middleboxes can't send retries unles= s they coordinate with the server. That's why we introduced the = original_connection_id transport parameter, in which the ser= ver has to prove knowledge of the connection ID that the client initially= used for its connection attempt. If a middlebox wants to send a Retry, i= t therefore must either communicate this connection ID directly to the se= rver, or (which is the more practical solution) share a key with the serv= er and encode it into the token.

To decode the version number of greased versions, it's not hard to ima= gine a similar arrangement between the middlebox and the server. Defining= an algorithm to do so safely would probably belong in the LB draft.

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= ----==_mimepart_5cb097241e420_4ff63f80d80d45c4237979-- From nobody Fri Apr 12 07:02:49 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F80F120714 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 07:02:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BjKmmkxVhjXm for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 07:02:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 585BE120712 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 07:02:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 07:02:44 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1555077764; bh=aIn614OJ/Xc1sapPYZpLn82PV7SQqy/6jeN6mN3daf4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=RoPQ3Bm2CygfjvdEfVjveiVaLPR5ECHPtcg+eBmhC7040gZOdyjSitRaP3s7RUMgB dXXzoTKhySqRuhe6cji0QUDCRVwtMYc88CBlHzumkiqMDWdQFqmfs92yh5v80+G5QI cE5BIkqQ1Xz+X+/2a4cKABZ1uM5hUPEkVq2mIhpI= From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] introduce a version alias mechanism (#2573) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cb09a843875c_7bb43f8b806d45c0484c0"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 14:02:48 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cb09a843875c_7bb43f8b806d45c0484c0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @marten-seemann I agree that it's possible to coordinate these things, but the DDoS device is meant to be a light-wieght plug-in-play device into the path that can be extremely efficient in getting rid of unwanted traffic, all in hardware. The folks in Azure that own the functionality are extremely hesitant to add any additional complexity there that adds additional points of failure. Any kind of protocol between the backend servers and that box increases the complexity of such a device by an order of magnitude. It will take a lot of time to get such a complete solution in place. In the mean time, we have to continue to have a solution, beyond the default UDP rate limitting algorithms that exist today. We were considering a simple connection close with server busy error code, but that's not possible with this design. So, the only invariant solution would be a practically empty VN response. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2573#issuecomment-482586164 ----==_mimepart_5cb09a843875c_7bb43f8b806d45c0484c0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@marten-seemann I agree that it's possible to coordin= ate these things, but the DDoS device is meant to be a light-wieght plug-= in-play device into the path that can be extremely efficient in getting r= id of unwanted traffic, all in hardware. The folks in Azure that own the = functionality are extremely hesitant to add any additional complexity the= re that adds additional points of failure. Any kind of protocol between t= he backend servers and that box increases the complexity of such a device= by an order of magnitude. It will take a lot of time to get such a compl= ete solution in place.

In the mean time, we have to continue to have a solution, beyond the d= efault UDP rate limitting algorithms that exist today. We were considerin= g a simple connection close with server busy error code, but that's not p= ossible with this design. So, the only invariant solution would be a prac= tically empty VN response.

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I believe the MAY is only possible if the crypto stack provides a clear = signal that it's received all crypto data in Initial or Handshake packets? = I wasn't sure how likely that was to be available, which is why it's a MAY= , but I'm also happy to make it a SHOULD.

The text used to say you should always ACK crypto packets immediately, b= ut a client might want to wait a short period of time and ACK the servers I= nitial in a coalesced packet with the client's Handshake ACK/CFIN, so it wa= s adjusted to " a very short ack delay, such as the local timer granularity= ".

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Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak0Isf4mmlldPe8zyXWIhLnpT4IcgDCmrzW5Ma EJB3KBOwJW5XzQCsLlWEavPk21+YgOB/v36aAefEjF5ge7utiC+bD+PKOFGA4VmOHDh0EuKXhXFn7P Py9SVZoWQ1XiHnvKSaIAM61EG7dKnm9RJ5NKs9M0LbKEoPOnfn0GewsIqg== Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 14:27:36 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/ianswett-no-crypto-data Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: 5ed9133eabe55169ba66cb1b8200f4f1f42c9d9e https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5ed9133eabe55169ba66cb1b8200f4f1f42c9d9e Author: Magnus Westerlund Date: 2019-01-15 (Tue, 15 Jan 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Initial text proposal for adding spin bit to transport specification. 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Closes #2174. Commit: 3f8a810d28ecf1e36d9790dc67a831409385b644 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3f8a810d28ecf1e36d9790dc67a831409385b644 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-04-12 (Fri, 12 Apr 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #2608 from quicwg/ignore-extensions non-QUIC TLS implementation don't validate transport parameters Commit: 51c9329856454f08f7222d95c49efba83a091e83 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/51c9329856454f08f7222d95c49efba83a091e83 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-04-12 (Fri, 12 Apr 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Fix manageability citation Closes #2609. 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Other stream types can be defined by extensions to HTTP/3; see {{extensions}} for more details. -Both clients and servers SHOULD send a value of three or greater for the QUIC -transport parameter `initial_max_uni_streams`. +The performance of HTTP/3 connections in the early phase of their lifetime is +sensitive to the creation and exchange of data on unidirectional streams. +Endpoints that set low values for the QUIC transport parameters +`initial_max_uni_streams` and `initial_max_stream_data_uni` will increase the +chance that the remote peer reaches the limit early. In particular, the value +chosen for `initial_max_uni_streams` should consider that remote peers may wish +to exercise reserved stream behaviour ({{stream-grease}}). Limits can be +increased post handshake at the cost of additional RTT, for example by +exchanging `STREAMS_BLOCKED` and `MAX_STREAMS` QUIC frames. 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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -321,8 +321,19 @@ defined in this document: control streams ({{control-streams}}) and push streams
 ({{push-streams}}).  Other stream types can be defined by extensions to HTTP/3;
 see {{extensions}} for more details.
 
-Both clients and servers SHOULD send a value of three or greater for the QUIC
-transport parameter `initial_max_uni_streams`.
+The performance of HTTP/3 connections in the early phase of their lifetime is
+sensitive to the creation and exchange of data on unidirectional streams.
+Endpoints that set low values for the QUIC transport parameters
+`initial_max_uni_streams` and `initial_max_stream_data_uni` will increase the
+chance that the remote peer reaches the limit early. In particular, the value
+chosen for `initial_max_uni_streams` should consider that remote peers may wish
+to exercise reserved stream behaviour ({{stream-grease}}). Limits can be
+increased post handshake at the cost of additional RTT, for example by
+exchanging `STREAMS_BLOCKED` and `MAX_STREAMS` QUIC frames. To reduce the

STREAMS_BLOCKED has no actual effect, it's just informative, so I don't think it's wise to mention it here.

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Other stream types can be defined by extensions to HTTP/3; see {{extensions}} for more details. -Both clients and servers SHOULD send a value of three or greater for the QUIC -transport parameter `initial_max_uni_streams`. +The performance of HTTP/3 connections in the early phase of their lifetime is +sensitive to the creation and exchange of data on unidirectional streams. +Endpoints that set low values for the QUIC transport parameters +`initial_max_uni_streams` and `initial_max_stream_data_uni` will increase the +chance that the remote peer reaches the limit early. In particular, the value +chosen for `initial_max_uni_streams` should consider that remote peers may wish +to exercise reserved stream behaviour ({{stream-grease}}). Limits can be +increased post handshake at the cost of additional RTT, for example by +exchanging `STREAMS_BLOCKED` and `MAX_STREAMS` QUIC frames. To reduce the That's a fair point. However, practically speaking, if a peer spends credit legitimately and needs more, how does it get it? We're seeing various HTTP/3 issues around getting blocked by conservative initial values, and there is little guidance on ways to mitigate this happening. If the answer is to aggressively dole out credit, it kind of devalues having limits. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2612#discussion_r274960237 ----==_mimepart_5cb0b06cc8c2b_7a7b3ff72a2d45b88492b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -321,8 +321,19 @@ defined in this document: control streams ({{control-streams}}) and push streams
 ({{push-streams}}).  Other stream types can be defined by extensions to HTTP/3;
 see {{extensions}} for more details.
 
-Both clients and servers SHOULD send a value of three or greater for the QUIC
-transport parameter `initial_max_uni_streams`.
+The performance of HTTP/3 connections in the early phase of their lifetime is
+sensitive to the creation and exchange of data on unidirectional streams.
+Endpoints that set low values for the QUIC transport parameters
+`initial_max_uni_streams` and `initial_max_stream_data_uni` will increase the
+chance that the remote peer reaches the limit early. In particular, the value
+chosen for `initial_max_uni_streams` should consider that remote peers may wish
+to exercise reserved stream behaviour ({{stream-grease}}). Limits can be
+increased post handshake at the cost of additional RTT, for example by
+exchanging `STREAMS_BLOCKED` and `MAX_STREAMS` QUIC frames. To reduce the

That's a fair point. However, practically speaking, if a peer spends credit legitimately and needs more, how does it get it?

We're seeing various HTTP/3 issues around getting blocked by conservative initial values, and there is little guidance on ways to mitigate this happening. If the answer is to aggressively dole out credit, it kind of devalues having limits.

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To reduce the The receiver should know when all the flow control credit is used(ie: it knows the current max and it knows the amount used in order to enforce limits), so when it gets to or close to 0, it should know the peer is unable to send. In practice, the current text advises providing enough window for 2RTTs I believe, which is reasonably generous. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2612#discussion_r274961367 ----==_mimepart_5cb0b11622ad8_2e23fbf032d45b831992e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -321,8 +321,19 @@ defined in this document: control streams ({{control-streams}}) and push streams
 ({{push-streams}}).  Other stream types can be defined by extensions to HTTP/3;
 see {{extensions}} for more details.
 
-Both clients and servers SHOULD send a value of three or greater for the QUIC
-transport parameter `initial_max_uni_streams`.
+The performance of HTTP/3 connections in the early phase of their lifetime is
+sensitive to the creation and exchange of data on unidirectional streams.
+Endpoints that set low values for the QUIC transport parameters
+`initial_max_uni_streams` and `initial_max_stream_data_uni` will increase the
+chance that the remote peer reaches the limit early. In particular, the value
+chosen for `initial_max_uni_streams` should consider that remote peers may wish
+to exercise reserved stream behaviour ({{stream-grease}}). Limits can be
+increased post handshake at the cost of additional RTT, for example by
+exchanging `STREAMS_BLOCKED` and `MAX_STREAMS` QUIC frames. To reduce the

The receiver should know when all the flow control credit is used(ie: it knows the current max and it knows the amount used in order to enforce limits), so when it gets to or close to 0, it should know the peer is unable to send.

In practice, the current text advises providing enough window for 2RTTs I believe, which is reasonably generous.

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Other stream types can be defined by extensions to HTTP/3; see {{extensions}} for more details. -Both clients and servers SHOULD send a value of three or greater for the QUIC -transport parameter `initial_max_uni_streams`. +The performance of HTTP/3 connections in the early phase of their lifetime is +sensitive to the creation and exchange of data on unidirectional streams. +Endpoints that set low values for the QUIC transport parameters +`initial_max_uni_streams` and `initial_max_stream_data_uni` will increase the +chance that the remote peer reaches the limit early. In particular, the value +chosen for `initial_max_uni_streams` should consider that remote peers may wish +to exercise reserved stream behaviour ({{stream-grease}}). Limits can be +increased post handshake at the cost of additional RTT, for example by +exchanging `STREAMS_BLOCKED` and `MAX_STREAMS` QUIC frames. To reduce the Sorry I should have been more specific, I was speaking about the number of uni streams not data. If the server gives the client initial uni streams value of 1, and the client uses up, what should the server do in the sense of upping the unidirectional stream limit? Not giving sufficient unidirectional streams will cause all sorts of annoying issues at the start of a H3 connection. > The receiver should know when all the flow control credit is used(ie: it knows the current max and it knows the amount used in order to enforce limits), so when it gets to or close to 0, it should know the peer is unable to send. > In practice, the current text advises providing enough window for 2RTTs I believe, which is reasonably generous. The problem is that the flow control credit starts at 0 if not specified. So, without some sensible guidance for an initial value, if a remote peer initiates a new unidirectional stream, it then needs to wait for the the local peer to send a MAX_DATA of _some_ value. 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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -321,8 +321,19 @@ defined in this document: control streams ({{control-streams}}) and push streams
 ({{push-streams}}).  Other stream types can be defined by extensions to HTTP/3;
 see {{extensions}} for more details.
 
-Both clients and servers SHOULD send a value of three or greater for the QUIC
-transport parameter `initial_max_uni_streams`.
+The performance of HTTP/3 connections in the early phase of their lifetime is
+sensitive to the creation and exchange of data on unidirectional streams.
+Endpoints that set low values for the QUIC transport parameters
+`initial_max_uni_streams` and `initial_max_stream_data_uni` will increase the
+chance that the remote peer reaches the limit early. In particular, the value
+chosen for `initial_max_uni_streams` should consider that remote peers may wish
+to exercise reserved stream behaviour ({{stream-grease}}). Limits can be
+increased post handshake at the cost of additional RTT, for example by
+exchanging `STREAMS_BLOCKED` and `MAX_STREAMS` QUIC frames. To reduce the

Sorry I should have been more specific, I was speaking about the number of uni streams not data. If the server gives the client initial uni streams value of 1, and the client uses up, what should the server do in the sense of upping the unidirectional stream limit? Not giving sufficient unidirectional streams will cause all sorts of annoying issues at the start of a H3 connection.

The receiver should know when all the flow control credit is used(ie: it knows the current max and it knows the amount used in order to enforce limits), so when it gets to or close to 0, it should know the peer is unable to send.

In practice, the current text advises providing enough window for 2RTTs I believe, which is reasonably generous.

The problem is that the flow control credit starts at 0 if not specified. So, without some sensible guidance for an initial value, if a remote peer initiates a new unidirectional stream, it then needs to wait for the the local peer to send a MAX_DATA of some value. Again this is pretty naff when all you are trying to do is create a HTTP/3 Control stream.

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----==_mimepart_5cb0b5857d75b_28c3fbf032d45b845572a-- From nobody Fri Apr 12 09:17:57 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2951E1202FD for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 09:17:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id o2gNhk7gFH1g for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 09:17:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 55A0E1200D7 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 09:17:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 09:17:53 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1555085873; bh=pxumgQ//hEFu5XK303svDeFhz0rhgLEUHUylWHSq234=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=z28jui9jUeOAQ0Xrbc6frBKB94+ClIIR8iJDlITEWqQGMTm5zDrRKtJ7c9dyVVXKP kYL6gG/vwlIIlaLcrLUvx+X3IH4wE+l2md1q/unD5DTvhZmf3FDdmm4NTjCzOMwWSc VUgYagcmFDhuAmmdEMH1GW0opaskdTYYuBFSmezw= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] RTT Initial measurement (#2607) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cb0ba3126c6d_37803fec638d45c057121f"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 16:17:56 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cb0ba3126c6d_37803fec638d45c057121f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Agrees to what @ianswett says. "SHOULD if the crypto stack provides such signal" is what I'd favor to see in the text, I think the current text implies that. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2607#issuecomment-482634987 ----==_mimepart_5cb0ba3126c6d_37803fec638d45c057121f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Agrees to what @ianswett says.

"SHOULD if the crypto stack provides such signal" is what I'd favor to see in the text, I think the current text implies that.

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@janaiyengar approved this pull request.

Yup, this LGTM.

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----==_mimepart_5cb120f345ec6_716b3ff06d2d45b81041e-- From nobody Fri Apr 12 16:42:39 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89EA912041C for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 16:42:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0HNALaYzp-_Y for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 16:42:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D4B39120408 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 16:42:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 16:42:33 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1555112553; bh=X7jQp9S2IMkLFWZmVRgKXCuHdggPyOV1kC3CinPYVhA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=cgBIC0fBFoWrHr9O4lLgPNv9Ke5k0Bdnb+puX/62lXwIUlVhWs2/SDPvgBQfK3KIj DS7npqo5uE6kTih4BwMF7Jkte3h+TCz1H9Bxt0/fskvFabIaww/yBarC1CyIkexNPc dcqGIPcPN6ENbtXHin+Hj+YqAVZzfQ7TJv3P0M0M= From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Persistent congestion interaction with app limited state (#2593) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cb122694d03a_716b3ff06d2d45b81338e7"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 23:42:38 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cb122694d03a_716b3ff06d2d45b81338e7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree with @ianswett. This is definitely an interesting case, and it is in line with an explicit assumption we've made -- that either the PTO timer is running, or we have nothing outstanding. @siyengar : Do you think adding text along these lines might be helpful? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2593#issuecomment-482754084 ----==_mimepart_5cb122694d03a_716b3ff06d2d45b81338e7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I agree with @ianswett. This is definitely an interesting case, and it is in line with an explicit assumption we've made -- that either the PTO timer is running, or we have nothing outstanding. @siyengar : Do you think adding text along these lines might be helpful?

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----==_mimepart_5cb122694d03a_716b3ff06d2d45b81338e7-- From nobody Fri Apr 12 16:48:47 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DC54120348 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 16:48:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DIMSuj_P54va for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 16:48:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 69E061201BC for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 16:48:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 16:48:43 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1555112923; bh=i9wUXbXV82WR0EvPCEepG3ALv/ONcedBkwTvd43EeCk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=nGRuPWrD5daTOgayl9O9fD/N4mSxRFno7qr2fxOBn2bdrKeysTPISqnwqCNElNpG0 9un0NemZ0BU8Lq/eLv+hANbE3H6ctpa6xhDV58OI/Eh4AbdWiBUm1KG1n/+1GReLa+ arS5M78j1nb9nrdTLwkGPq5XNIQvP/X4YUmOQg94= From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Pseudocode fix: Data should be sent on loss-threshold timer (#2604) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cb123db6bc21_53af3ffb564d45b852388"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 23:48:46 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cb123db6bc21_53af3ffb564d45b852388 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yeah, I realized that we don't really talk about PRR. If we want to bring the entire mechanism here, that might be a bit of work. How about we do as you propose above (without PRR in the comment), add some text about how a sender can implement PRR if they want a smoother way out of recovery with a reference to the PRR draft? Separately, is it worth filing an issue to do PRR for QUIC? Since we don't assume pacing here, it might actually be useful. It will be some work to do it though. WDYT? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2604#issuecomment-482754972 ----==_mimepart_5cb123db6bc21_53af3ffb564d45b852388 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yeah, I realized that we don't really talk about PRR. If we want to br= ing the entire mechanism here, that might be a bit of work. How about we = do as you propose above (without PRR in the comment), add some text about= how a sender can implement PRR if they want a smoother way out of recove= ry with a reference to the PRR draft?

Separately, is it worth filing an issue to do PRR for QUIC? Since we d= on't assume pacing here, it might actually be useful. It will be some wor= k to do it though. WDYT?

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Given where congestion control and pacing are going, I'd be inclined to not mention PRR, but if we want to mention it as another informational reference, particularly when senders aren't pacing, that SGTM.

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----==_mimepart_5cb124a257c32_59fa3fe0c82d45b815427b-- From nobody Fri Apr 12 16:55:56 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D7A0120447 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 16:55:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CtNPR8Tl4psN for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 16:55:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 99D99120424 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 16:55:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 16:55:51 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1555113351; bh=2VwD4rU1bk7s+ReUQBfoZTjIOe6UHH6B0IJAk8xD5xA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=G1Y0b+nY9KR+lBOKcNjFNxsT9HoEJvW3UyJN556wVOVhPa+S+Hk6OL1rvfSGrTRPZ 9IFcqI1OAcXIxaMaflmReq54E61juDUkvs+10OLJuMPRjCDUJ8b0d8bZwZeM40OoOb s+GYr8EBx/eI3FPMxjP7tq8SEefvxuGtQe/OAMz8= From: Subodh Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Persistent congestion interaction with app limited state (#2593) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cb1258772808_28763fc648ad45b4165282"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: siyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 23:55:55 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cb1258772808_28763fc648ad45b4165282 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ya i think that's a decent mitigation there. The text assumes an implementation that keeps the PTO armed even if there is a packet outstanding that does not have new or expired data. In our case we don't arm the timer when there is a packet with no new data. The assumption that the spec makes is that if you have outstanding packets to send you have outstanding data, however we explicitly check whether we have outstanding data to send rather than using outstanding packets as a proxy. Oh now that you brought up PTO, I'm thinking about what would happen if data was being sent slowly, that is if data is sent just before PTO expires and in response to new requests which are trickling in. Is the intent of persistent congestion here to mark this case as persistent congestion as well? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2593#issuecomment-482755911 ----==_mimepart_5cb1258772808_28763fc648ad45b4165282 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Ya i think that's a decent mitigation there. The text assumes an imple= mentation that keeps the PTO armed even if there is a packet outstanding = that does not have new or expired data. In our case we don't arm the time= r when there is a packet with no new data. The assumption that the spec m= akes is that if you have outstanding packets to send you have outstanding= data, however we explicitly check whether we have outstanding data to se= nd rather than using outstanding packets as a proxy.

Oh now that you brought up PTO, I'm thinking about what would happen i= f data was being sent slowly, that is if data is sent just before PTO exp= ires and in response to new requests which are trickling in. Is the inten= t of persistent congestion here to mark this case as persistent congestio= n as well?

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -321,8 +321,19 @@ defined in this document: control streams ({{control-streams}}) and push streams
 ({{push-streams}}).  Other stream types can be defined by extensions to HTTP/3;
 see {{extensions}} for more details.
 
-Both clients and servers SHOULD send a value of three or greater for the QUIC
-transport parameter `initial_max_uni_streams`.
+The performance of HTTP/3 connections in the early phase of their lifetime is
+sensitive to the creation and exchange of data on unidirectional streams.
+Endpoints that set low values for the QUIC transport parameters
+`initial_max_uni_streams` and `initial_max_stream_data_uni` will increase the
+chance that the remote peer reaches the limit early. In particular, the value
+chosen for `initial_max_uni_streams` should consider that remote peers may wish
+to exercise reserved stream behaviour ({{stream-grease}}). Limits can be
+increased post handshake at the cost of additional RTT, for example by
+exchanging `STREAMS_BLOCKED` and `MAX_STREAMS` QUIC frames. To reduce the

There's nothing you can do to force a peer to allow more streams. If a peer continues to misbehave, all you can do is close the connection.
STREAMS_BLOCKED is just a debugging frame, so I agree with @ianswett that we should remove it from this PR.

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I think this is good, but chairs should probably do this.

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I'm happy to take it out. However, I wouldn't call it misbehaviour to exercise protocol features. The unidirectional stream extension capabilities seem dead on arrival if there is no way for either peer to express their intent.

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----==_mimepart_5cb12f5ba68d4_53243ffac24d45c04842db-- From nobody Fri Apr 12 17:38:00 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8377B120442 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 17:37:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.003 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.003 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kluIVq0rO3vD for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 17:37:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 09B13120440 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 17:37:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 17:37:52 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1555115872; bh=WcIe/gaD2AaRhNMb/wuAy02I4K+D5ZGiFi48FHJtP0A=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=Z8t0NJi/6WUyR6duT2rTrH0d0dOIUd5W+qLaXGtA9OTDf4vlMBn7oxuEDCWol8bOt 9oaSnw6SJO0XxAaCMzyEhWe7k54RdmCWsiwbDk58F3UitCcR/WlbLiFK86+MMaMqpf Sso905SkBsJ41r/Vv4oXcSqXIzJnCy9eyMGv3094= From: ianswett To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] c91199: Don't arm the handshake timer if there's no data (... 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I'm in agreement as well on turning the MAY into a SHOULD. I'll send a PR. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2607#issuecomment-482760877 ----==_mimepart_5cb1303f98b21_33043fc83c8d45c03608a3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@marten-seemann : indeed, thanks for pointing me to the text. I'm in agreement as well on turning the MAY into a SHOULD. I'll send a PR.

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Changes MAY to SHOULD.
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Thanks for this -- I think it's the right direction. Some comments to try and herd this text some more. > ## Application Limited Sending -The congestion window should not be increased in slow start or congestion -avoidance when it is not fully utilized. The congestion window could be -under-utilized due to insufficient application data or flow control credit. +A sender's congestion window MUST NOT increase when no packets are newly +acknowledged, such as when the connection is idle. The congestion window This is a strange requirement, since the specified CC only increases on receiving ACKs. This was already written earlier in other words, and I realize now that it was a strange requirement then as well. I wonder if just removing this first sentence makes sense. > ## Application Limited Sending -The congestion window should not be increased in slow start or congestion -avoidance when it is not fully utilized. The congestion window could be -under-utilized due to insufficient application data or flow control credit. +A sender's congestion window MUST NOT increase when no packets are newly +acknowledged, such as when the connection is idle. The congestion window +SHOULD NOT be increased in slow start or congestion avoidance when it is not +sufficiently utilized. The congestion window could be under-utilized due to +insufficient application data or flow control credit. Editorial suggestion, after removing the first sentence: "A congestion window that is under-utilized SHOULD NOT be increased in either slow start or congestion avoidance. This can happen due to insufficient application data or flow control credit." I don't think saying "idle" is necessary, this text captures it in "insufficient app data", IMO. > ## Application Limited Sending -The congestion window should not be increased in slow start or congestion -avoidance when it is not fully utilized. The congestion window could be -under-utilized due to insufficient application data or flow control credit. +A sender's congestion window MUST NOT increase when no packets are newly +acknowledged, such as when the connection is idle. The congestion window +SHOULD NOT be increased in slow start or congestion avoidance when it is not +sufficiently utilized. The congestion window could be under-utilized due to +insufficient application data or flow control credit. + +A sender MAY use the pipeACK method described in section 4.3 of {{?RFC7661}} +to determine if the congestion window is sufficiently utilized. I'm not sure how to read this. We are saying that the sender SHOULD NOT increase the cwnd if it's under-utilized, but we are not quite defining what under-utilized means and instead pointing to pipeACK for one way of defining it (for TCP). This doesn't seem great to me. For the purpose of this PR, how about you leave it like this and open a new issue to summarize a definition of an under-utilized cwnd? > A sender that paces packets (see {{pacing}}) might delay sending packets and not fully utilize the congestion window due to this delay. A sender should not consider itself application limited if it would have fully utilized the congestion window without pacing delay. +Sending more than intial window into the network at once may cause losses. ```suggestion Bursting more than an intial window's worth of data into the network might cause short-term congestion and losses. ``` > A sender that paces packets (see {{pacing}}) might delay sending packets and not fully utilize the congestion window due to this delay. A sender should not consider itself application limited if it would have fully utilized the congestion window without pacing delay. +Sending more than intial window into the network at once may cause losses. +Implemementations SHOULD use pacing, ACK-clocking, a reduction in CWND and/or ```suggestion Implemementations SHOULD either use pacing or reduce their congestion window to limit such bursts. ``` Reducing the cwnd basically means using ack-clocking to increase the cwnd. > A sender that paces packets (see {{pacing}}) might delay sending packets and not fully utilize the congestion window due to this delay. A sender should not consider itself application limited if it would have fully utilized the congestion window without pacing delay. +Sending more than intial window into the network at once may cause losses. +Implemementations SHOULD use pacing, ACK-clocking, a reduction in CWND and/or +timers to minimize bursts. + +A sender MAY implement alternate mechanisms to update its congestion window +after idle periods, such as those proposed for TCP in {{?RFC7661}}. ```suggestion after periods of under-utilization, such as those proposed for TCP in {{?RFC7661}}. ``` > @@ -742,31 +742,28 @@ As an example of a well-known and publicly available implementation of a flow pacer, implementers are referred to the Fair Queue packet scheduler (fq qdisc) in Linux (3.11 onwards). - -## Sending data after an idle period - -A sender becomes idle if it ceases to send data and has no bytes in flight. A -sender's congestion window MUST NOT increase while it is idle. - -When sending data after becoming idle, a sender MUST reset its congestion window -to the initial congestion window (see Section 4.1 of {{?RFC5681}}), unless it -paces the sending of packets. A sender MAY retain its congestion window if it -paces the sending of any packets in excess of the initial congestion window. - -A sender MAY implement alternate mechanisms to update its congestion window -after idle periods, such as those proposed for TCP in {{?RFC7661}}. - ## Application Limited Sending How about "Under-utilizing the Congestion Window"? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2605#pullrequestreview-226331010 ----==_mimepart_5cb13b494e0fc_4a4d3f8bc36d45b475378 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Thanks for this -- I think it's the right direction. Some comments to = try and herd this text some more.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

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>  ## Application Limited Sending=0D
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-The congestion window should not be increased in slow start or congestio=
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-avoidance when it is not fully utilized.  The congestion window could be=
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-under-utilized due to insufficient application data or flow control cred=
it.=0D
+A sender's congestion window MUST NOT increase when no packets are n=
ewly=0D
+acknowledged, such as when the connection is idle. The congestion window=
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This is a strange requirement, since the specified CC only increases o= n receiving ACKs. This was already written earlier in other words, and I = realize now that it was a strange requirement then as well. I wonder if j= ust removing this first sentence makes sense.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

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>  ## Application Limited Sending=0D
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-The congestion window should not be increased in slow start or congestio=
n=0D
-avoidance when it is not fully utilized.  The congestion window could be=
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-under-utilized due to insufficient application data or flow control cred=
it.=0D
+A sender's congestion window MUST NOT increase when no packets are n=
ewly=0D
+acknowledged, such as when the connection is idle. The congestion window=
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+SHOULD NOT be increased in slow start or congestion avoidance when it is=
 not=0D
+sufficiently utilized.  The congestion window could be under-utilized du=
e to=0D
+insufficient application data or flow control credit.=0D
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Editorial suggestion, after removing the first sentence: "A congestion= window that is under-utilized SHOULD NOT be increased in either slow sta= rt or congestion avoidance. This can happen due to insufficient applicat= ion data or flow control credit."

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I don't think saying "idle" is necessary, this text captures it in "in= sufficient app data", IMO.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

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>  ## Application Limited Sending=0D
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-The congestion window should not be increased in slow start or congestio=
n=0D
-avoidance when it is not fully utilized.  The congestion window could be=
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-under-utilized due to insufficient application data or flow control cred=
it.=0D
+A sender's congestion window MUST NOT increase when no packets are n=
ewly=0D
+acknowledged, such as when the connection is idle. The congestion window=
=0D
+SHOULD NOT be increased in slow start or congestion avoidance when it is=
 not=0D
+sufficiently utilized.  The congestion window could be under-utilized du=
e to=0D
+insufficient application data or flow control credit.=0D
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+A sender MAY use the pipeACK method described in section 4.3 of {{?RFC76=
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+to determine if the congestion window is sufficiently utilized.=0D
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I'm not sure how to read this. We are saying that the sender SHOULD NO= T increase the cwnd if it's under-utilized, but we are not quite defining= what under-utilized means and instead pointing to pipeACK for one way of= defining it (for TCP). This doesn't seem great to me.

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For the purpose of this PR, how about you leave it like this and open = a new issue to summarize a definition of an under-utilized cwnd?

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

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>  =0D
 A sender that paces packets (see {{pacing}}) might delay sending packets=
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 and not fully utilize the congestion window due to this delay. A sender=0D=

 should not consider itself application limited if it would have fully=0D=

 utilized the congestion window without pacing delay.=0D
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+Sending more than intial window into the network at once may cause losse=
s.=0D
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-Sending more than intial window into the netw=
ork at once may cause losses.=0D
+Bursting more than an intial window's worth of data into the network mig=
ht cause short-term congestion and losses.=0D
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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

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>  =0D
 A sender that paces packets (see {{pacing}}) might delay sending packets=
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 and not fully utilize the congestion window due to this delay. A sender=0D=

 should not consider itself application limited if it would have fully=0D=

 utilized the congestion window without pacing delay.=0D
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+Sending more than intial window into the network at once may cause losse=
s.=0D
+Implemementations SHOULD use pacing, ACK-clocking, a reduction in CWND a=
nd/or=0D
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-Implemementations SHOULD use pacing, ACK-cloc=
king, a reduction in CWND and/or=0D
+Implemementations SHOULD either use pacing or reduce their congestion wi=
ndow to limit such bursts.=0D
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Reducing the cwnd basically means using ack-clocking to increase the c= wnd.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

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>  =0D
 A sender that paces packets (see {{pacing}}) might delay sending packets=
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 and not fully utilize the congestion window due to this delay. A sender=0D=

 should not consider itself application limited if it would have fully=0D=

 utilized the congestion window without pacing delay.=0D
 =0D
+Sending more than intial window into the network at once may cause losse=
s.=0D
+Implemementations SHOULD use pacing, ACK-clocking, a reduction in CWND a=
nd/or=0D
+timers to minimize bursts.=0D
+=0D
+A sender MAY implement alternate mechanisms to update its congestion win=
dow=0D
+after idle periods, such as those proposed for TCP in {{?RFC7661}}.=0D
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-after idle periods, such as those proposed fo=
r TCP in {{?RFC7661}}.=0D
+after periods of under-utilization, such as those proposed for TCP in {{=
?RFC7661}}.=0D
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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

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> @@ -742,31 +742,28 @@ As an example of a w=
ell-known and publicly available implementation of a flow=0D
 pacer, implementers are referred to the Fair Queue packet scheduler (fq =
qdisc)=0D
 in Linux (3.11 onwards).=0D
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-=0D
-## Sending data after an idle period=0D
-=0D
-A sender becomes idle if it ceases to send data and has no bytes in flig=
ht.  A=0D
-sender's congestion window MUST NOT increase while it is idle.=0D
-=0D
-When sending data after becoming idle, a sender MUST reset its congestio=
n window=0D
-to the initial congestion window (see Section 4.1 of {{?RFC5681}}), unle=
ss it=0D
-paces the sending of packets. A sender MAY retain its congestion window =
if it=0D
-paces the sending of any packets in excess of the initial congestion win=
dow.=0D
-=0D
-A sender MAY implement alternate mechanisms to update its congestion win=
dow=0D
-after idle periods, such as those proposed for TCP in {{?RFC7661}}.=0D
-=0D
 ## Application Limited Sending=0D
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How about "Under-utilizing the Congestion Window"?

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's being sent as a parameter right now in UpdateRttI() and is global otherwise. Also since min_rtt is now set explicitly for the first sample, initialize min_rtt to 0 for consistency. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2615 -- Commit Summary -- * make latest_rtt global * remove asserts -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md (9) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2615.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2615.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2615 ----==_mimepart_5cb141665dd63_7f123fa5aa8d45c045811b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

It's being sent as a parameter right now in UpdateRttI() and is global otherwise.
Also since min_rtt is now set explicitly for the first sample, initialize min_rtt to 0 for consistency.

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  • make latest_rtt global
  • remove asserts

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PTO works out fine, but loss_delay becomes weird. We should probably handle that.

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Closes #2616.

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Sending an ACK immediately for client's INITIAL might be helpful in estimating RTT correctly but it has the disadvantage of not being able to coalesce the ACK with server's INITIAL CRYPTO. Some implementations might even coalesce the Handshake packet.

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Note that stacks generally don't indicate that all data is available, they just provide newer keys, or provide data that should be protected with those newer keys. But the spirit of this is fine.

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A server that uses a load balancer can either not use this mechanism (i.e., it's free) or provide whatever aliasing the load balancer supports.

The point is to have the feature so that some servers support it. Not all of them have to.

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@kazuho approved this pull request.

LGTM modulo below.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1422,6 +1422,15 @@ server's new preferred_address value in the handshake.
 A server MUST either reject 0-RTT data or abort a handshake if the implied
 values for transport parameters cannot be supported.
 
+When sending frames in 0-RTT packets, a client MUST only use remembered
+transport parameters; importantly, it MUST NOT use updated values that it learns
+from the server's updated transport parameters or from frames received in 1-RTT
+packets.  Updated values of transport parameters from the handshake apply only
+to 1-RTT packets.  For instance, flow control limits from remembered transport
+parameters apply to all 0-RTT packets even if those values are increased by the
+handshake or by frames send in 1-RTT packets.  A server MAY treat use of updated

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The text here had a MUST prohibiting data+offset from exceeding 2^62-1. But that is redundant with flow control, which can't express a limit greater than this anyway. So just point to FLOW_CONTROL_ERROR. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2618 -- Commit Summary -- * Exceeding 2^62-1 is a flow control error -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (5) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2618.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2618.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2618 ----==_mimepart_5cb2fea8493ea_31543fa1634d45c4116773 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Fixes #2538.

The text here had a MUST prohibiting data+offset from exceeding 2^62-1.
But that is redundant with flow control, which can't express a limit
greater than this anyway. So just point to FLOW_CONTROL_ERROR.

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This is for issue 2565. This is the behavior until draft-17 i think. Crypto always had higher priority than other packets thus other type of loss detection (reordering threshold, time threshold and early retransmit timeout). Then in draft-17 the reordering threshold and time threshold were merged together. Somehow, loss_time also got a higher priority than crypto timer. With such change it's possible that loss_time fires, there are crypto packets in flight, but not all of them are eligible to retransmit, depending on their sending time and the loss_time value, so we may only retransmit some of them.

This diff brings the old behavior back. Crypto timer will have higher priority than timer threshold loss detection, and when crypto timer fires, if there are outstanding handshake packets, all of them are retransmitted.

This also simplifies the loss_time. There will be no need to have one loss_timer per packet number space, only ApplicationData space will need a loss_time.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2619

Commit Summary

  • Handle crypto timer before time threshold timer

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It's been a few days. I sent PR #2619.

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This was introduced as a fix to #2435, and fixed in #2451. I don't think that reverting that fix is a good idea.

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@kazuho commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -321,8 +321,19 @@ defined in this document: control streams ({{control-streams}}) and push streams
 ({{push-streams}}).  Other stream types can be defined by extensions to HTTP/3;
 see {{extensions}} for more details.
 
-Both clients and servers SHOULD send a value of three or greater for the QUIC
-transport parameter `initial_max_uni_streams`.
+The performance of HTTP/3 connections in the early phase of their lifetime is
+sensitive to the creation and exchange of data on unidirectional streams.
+Endpoints that set low values for the QUIC transport parameters
+`initial_max_uni_streams` and `initial_max_stream_data_uni` will increase the
+chance that the remote peer reaches the limit early. In particular, the value
+chosen for `initial_max_uni_streams` should consider that remote peers may wish
+to exercise reserved stream behaviour ({{stream-grease}}). Limits can be
+increased post handshake at the cost of additional RTT, for example by
+exchanging `STREAMS_BLOCKED` and `MAX_STREAMS` QUIC frames. To reduce the
+possibility of this situation occuring, both clients and servers SHOULD send a
+value of three or greater for the QUIC transport parameter
+`initial_max_uni_streams`, and a value of eight or greater for the QUIC
+transport `initial_max_stream_data_uni`.

While I understand the motivation to suggest something for initial_max_stream_data_uni, 8 bytes sounds strangely small.

I'd argue that we should recommend a value that is greater than the size of SETTINGS frames that most endpoints would send. Also, considering the fact that QUIC endpoint needs to be capable of processing at least one full-sized packet at a time, I do not think that even the most restricted endpoints would set initial_max_stream_data_uni below one MTU.

Therefore, I might propose something like "SHOULD be at least 1,024 bytes."

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Not really because #2605 is based on the old text. I guess this PR would need to be applied on top of #2605

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----==_mimepart_5cb44d9fbb943_5b3d3fce45ad45b4268133-- From nobody Mon Apr 15 02:50:26 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5310120158 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 02:50:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IzkW1X1yF6hO for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 02:50:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 97BDF12003F for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 02:50:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2019 02:50:21 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1555321821; bh=HbDTc+tMwVrJnTXzjKWnhaMw9sygQp3juKhUNVBM5nU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=mLaDEX2u24kYNyHPXHvm7VRVv9bJFTpVLNQXYiUFbpUofiR95SSuypN1CbUZ3mBXz lpTLsWHqyZyHCQwDYokKANo+6JDJcJ627c0EbYucPmgMlX96txXnAmwIAcI0iMK/G4 3BnlGRTeGJFYSkdmjG8Jm82xWKWmW5XZBYVDn0TU= From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Add further guidance related to unidirectional stream TPs (#2612) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cb453dd5a4ef_64683f8dd38d45b410023f"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2019 09:50:24 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cb453dd5a4ef_64683f8dd38d45b410023f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LPardue commented on this pull request. > @@ -321,8 +321,19 @@ defined in this document: control streams ({{control-streams}}) and push streams ({{push-streams}}). Other stream types can be defined by extensions to HTTP/3; see {{extensions}} for more details. -Both clients and servers SHOULD send a value of three or greater for the QUIC -transport parameter `initial_max_uni_streams`. +The performance of HTTP/3 connections in the early phase of their lifetime is +sensitive to the creation and exchange of data on unidirectional streams. +Endpoints that set low values for the QUIC transport parameters +`initial_max_uni_streams` and `initial_max_stream_data_uni` will increase the +chance that the remote peer reaches the limit early. In particular, the value +chosen for `initial_max_uni_streams` should consider that remote peers may wish +to exercise reserved stream behaviour ({{stream-grease}}). Limits can be +increased post handshake at the cost of additional RTT, for example by +exchanging `STREAMS_BLOCKED` and `MAX_STREAMS` QUIC frames. To reduce the +possibility of this situation occuring, both clients and servers SHOULD send a +value of three or greater for the QUIC transport parameter +`initial_max_uni_streams`, and a value of eight or greater for the QUIC +transport `initial_max_stream_data_uni`. 8 bytes gives just enough data to see what the stream type is before committing to receiving any further data. However, I also agree that such a low value in practice will not fix the issues around blocking, so I'll accept your suggestion. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2612#discussion_r275285157 ----==_mimepart_5cb453dd5a4ef_64683f8dd38d45b410023f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -321,8 +321,19 @@ defined in this document: control streams ({{control-streams}}) and push streams
 ({{push-streams}}).  Other stream types can be defined by extensions to HTTP/3;
 see {{extensions}} for more details.
 
-Both clients and servers SHOULD send a value of three or greater for the QUIC
-transport parameter `initial_max_uni_streams`.
+The performance of HTTP/3 connections in the early phase of their lifetime is
+sensitive to the creation and exchange of data on unidirectional streams.
+Endpoints that set low values for the QUIC transport parameters
+`initial_max_uni_streams` and `initial_max_stream_data_uni` will increase the
+chance that the remote peer reaches the limit early. In particular, the value
+chosen for `initial_max_uni_streams` should consider that remote peers may wish
+to exercise reserved stream behaviour ({{stream-grease}}). Limits can be
+increased post handshake at the cost of additional RTT, for example by
+exchanging `STREAMS_BLOCKED` and `MAX_STREAMS` QUIC frames. To reduce the
+possibility of this situation occuring, both clients and servers SHOULD send a
+value of three or greater for the QUIC transport parameter
+`initial_max_uni_streams`, and a value of eight or greater for the QUIC
+transport `initial_max_stream_data_uni`.

8 bytes gives just enough data to see what the stream type is before committing to receiving any further data. However, I also agree that such a low value in practice will not fix the issues around blocking, so I'll accept your suggestion.

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Given that I think that the general guidance for QUIC is "use pacing", I think a "MUST reset to IW if not paced" is actually the right thing to do to support that pacing gets implemented with QUIC from the start.

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+1 to @marten-seemann's comment. Timers are necessary when you have no information about what might be lost, but if you do have information, there's no reason not to use that instead.

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Adds some explanation about why it's better to arm/fire the time threshold alarm before the crypto retransmission timeout.

Hopefully clarifies comments from #2565

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2620

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  • Clarify time threshold vs crypto timer

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -486,6 +486,12 @@ Using max(SRTT, latest_RTT) protects from the two following cases:
 * the latest RTT sample is higher than the SRTT, perhaps due to a sustained
   increase in the actual RTT, but the smoothed SRTT has not yet caught up.
 
+An endpoint might consistently record RTT samples as 0 in extremely low latency
+networks, leading to a smoothed_rtt of 0.  Consequently, the endpoint could
+declare all packets as lost immediately upon sending them.  To avoid declaring

This part isn't true. There would still have to be reordering, since you need a later sent packet to be ACKed.

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I believe this was closed by #2592

@janaiyengar I'll let you confirm that and close this.

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And 0 is a valid packet number, so defaulting largest_acked_packet to 0 is inherently incorrect.

Fixes #2611

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You'll also have to change the first line of `OnAckReceived(ack, pn_space)`. I'm wondering if it wouldn't be easier to initialize it to -1 instead. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2621#pullrequestreview-226726973 ----==_mimepart_5cb4a5ff6e4b5_73a83fb8e6cd45b83108f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@marten-seemann requested changes on this pull request.

You'll also have to change the first line of OnAckReceived(ack, pn_space).

I'm wondering if it wouldn't be easier to initialize it to -1 instead.

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[ci skip] From nobody Mon Apr 15 08:46:56 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4270F12012B for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 08:46:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zIIAChyOFOip for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 08:46:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 446D512004D for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 08:46:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2019 08:46:51 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1555343211; bh=tQ59znmHQ5eW8YxfWcowL/kuUFHeWCjCICYHaEmsFLs=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=WoZnaaniIOHdoz/9fgIkSE0BH/BcV73dCaUAVy3VFcrLgvQM0woQX5oISmyjoXy2y fYdW+DGpDCJVBVMcJ8z6aWJAGlKcWCk9entrj8/BpRjfqbDw302dbnMCPrl+2gBXBy czEnZ2+L7hi9dnDnIY7j2SaQR7mHxD9ukfc5H0qA= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] lost_pn can no longer be negative (#2621) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cb4a76b4f72f_19d73fcb4e2d45c07393f"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2019 15:46:54 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cb4a76b4f72f_19d73fcb4e2d45c07393f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I prefer to initialize to -1, but previously some people were really opposed to allowing packet numbers and other variables in this pseudocode be signed. If variables are signed, then we don't really need to do anything here, but it would be more correct to initialize largest_acked_packet[pn_space] to -1. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2621#issuecomment-483308056 ----==_mimepart_5cb4a76b4f72f_19d73fcb4e2d45c07393f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I prefer to initialize to -1, but previously some people were really o= pposed to allowing packet numbers and other variables in this pseudocode = be signed.

If variables are signed, then we don't really need to do anything here= , but it would be more correct to initialize largest_acked_packet[pn_spac= e] to -1.

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@janaiyengar, Is this closed the host delay section of #2568 ?

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What about scheuler delays? I've been thinking about max_ack_delay and= I think we need more than just one timer tick here since its supposed to= be the worst case. If we get this wrong then we will have lot of unneces= sary firing of the TLP timer when only the tail packet is due.

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I'd still prefer -1. We're now adding two ifs just to catch the special case of infinite (which is not a valid unsigned value anyway).

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Thanks for the explanation. It's much clearer.
Can i ask for one more clarification? In DetectLostPackets, shouldn't the for-loop have been something like this:
foreach unacked in sent_packets[pn_space]:

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The pseudocode now uses SendOneOrTwoPackets(), but the last paragraph pr= etty clearly violates the previous MUST, which is very bad.

The simplest fix would be to change the MUST to a "SHOULD unless otherwi= se specified", but I'm increasingly thinking we should stick with the MUST = and if you get into a situation you have nothing to send, require sending s= omething ack-eliciting to ensure in-flight packets are removed from flight.=

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close. #2620 clarifies this.

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Editorial fix for #2493

This seemed like the minimal fix for the existing text, though I wonder if it's the correct one.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2622

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Alternate fix for #2621

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lgtm. thank you!

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A -sender's congestion window MUST NOT increase while it is idle. - -When sending data after becoming idle, a sender MUST reset its congestion window -to the initial congestion window (see Section 4.1 of {{?RFC5681}}), unless it -paces the sending of packets. A sender MAY retain its congestion window if it -paces the sending of any packets in excess of the initial congestion window. - -A sender MAY implement alternate mechanisms to update its congestion window -after idle periods, such as those proposed for TCP in {{?RFC7661}}. - ## Application Limited Sending Done -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2605#discussion_r275512872 ----==_mimepart_5cb4dcc19c81a_22af3f9e60ad45c41623c7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -742,31 +742,28 @@ As an example of a well-known and publicly available implementation of a flow
 pacer, implementers are referred to the Fair Queue packet scheduler (fq qdisc)
 in Linux (3.11 onwards).
 
-
-## Sending data after an idle period
-
-A sender becomes idle if it ceases to send data and has no bytes in flight.  A
-sender's congestion window MUST NOT increase while it is idle.
-
-When sending data after becoming idle, a sender MUST reset its congestion window
-to the initial congestion window (see Section 4.1 of {{?RFC5681}}), unless it
-paces the sending of packets. A sender MAY retain its congestion window if it
-paces the sending of any packets in excess of the initial congestion window.
-
-A sender MAY implement alternate mechanisms to update its congestion window
-after idle periods, such as those proposed for TCP in {{?RFC7661}}.
-
 ## Application Limited Sending

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  ## Application Limited Sending
 
-The congestion window should not be increased in slow start or congestion
-avoidance when it is not fully utilized.  The congestion window could be
-under-utilized due to insufficient application data or flow control credit.
+A sender's congestion window MUST NOT increase when no packets are newly
+acknowledged, such as when the connection is idle. The congestion window

This was written to specifically forbid the cubic bug, but I realize it's not even tight enough to do that, so I'll remove it.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -486,6 +486,12 @@ Using max(SRTT, latest_RTT) protects from the two following cases:
 * the latest RTT sample is higher than the SRTT, perhaps due to a sustained
   increase in the actual RTT, but the smoothed SRTT has not yet caught up.
 
+An endpoint might consistently record RTT samples as 0 in extremely low latency
+networks, leading to a smoothed_rtt of 0.  Consequently, the endpoint could
+declare all packets as lost immediately upon sending them.  To avoid declaring

Good point. I've changed the text now to say that srtt of 0 means there's no reordering tolerance.

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Thanks, updated

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  ## Application Limited Sending
 
-The congestion window should not be increased in slow start or congestion
-avoidance when it is not fully utilized.  The congestion window could be
-under-utilized due to insufficient application data or flow control credit.
+A sender's congestion window MUST NOT increase when no packets are newly
+acknowledged, such as when the connection is idle. The congestion window
+SHOULD NOT be increased in slow start or congestion avoidance when it is not
+sufficiently utilized.  The congestion window could be under-utilized due to
+insufficient application data or flow control credit.

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@pravb: I've proposed separating platform delays from stack-controlla= ble delays in #2596. My thinking has moved since this issue was first file= d, and I now think that max-ack-delay should only include stack-controllabl= e delays. Any additional delays will go into the smoothed_rtt anyways, so a= ny timers should account for those delays via the increase in the smoothed_= rtt. At any rate, I propose that we move discussion of that specific questi= on to #2596.

I'm closing this issue, let's open new issues for any other more specifi= c concerns.

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The text here had a MUST prohibiting data+offset from exceeding 2^62-1. But that is redundant with flow control, which can't express a limit greater than this anyway. So just point to FLOW_CONTROL_ERROR. 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I understand that it makes the pseudo code slightly simpler, but it makes implementing the pseudo code much harder for those using uints. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2623#issuecomment-483412900 ----==_mimepart_5cb4ee5f20136_12103fb631cd45c0223857 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I don't think we should introduce negative numbers here. I understand that it makes the pseudo code slightly simpler, but it makes implementing the pseudo code much harder for those using uints.

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This also doesn't solve the problem where:
lost_pn = largest_acked_packet[pn_space] - kPacketThreshold
results in a negative lost_pn. My suggestions would be:

  1. Initialize lost_pn to infinite
  2. When setting lost_pn, use the following code:
if largest_acked_packet[pn_space] >= kPacketThreshold:
    lost_pn_threshold = largest_acked_packet[pn_space] - kPacketThreshold
  1. Change the condition below on line 1279 to:
(lost_pn != infinite && unacked.packet_number <= lost_pn)

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1273,7 +1276,8 @@ DetectLostPackets(pn_space):
 
     // Mark packet as lost, or set time when it should be marked.
     if (unacked.time_sent <= lost_send_time ||
-        unacked.packet_number <= lost_pn):
+        (largest_acked_packet[pn_space] != infinite &&

DetectLostPackets is only ever called after at least one ACK has been received for this pn_space, so instead of checking for this here, I think this should be an assert() up at the top of the function.

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 send an Initial packet in a UDP datagram of at least=0D
 1200 bytes.=0D
 =0D
 The crypto retransmission timer is not set if the time threshold=0D
-{{time-threshold}} loss detection timer is set.  When the crypto=0D
-retransmission timer is active, the probe timer ({{pto}}) is not active.=
=0D
+{{time-threshold}} loss detection timer is set.  The time threshold loss=
=0D
+detection timer is both expected to expire earlier than the crypto=0D
=0D

Can you explain what this expectation is based on?

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=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

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> @@ -537,8 +537,13 @@ and otherwise it MUST=
 send an Initial packet in a UDP datagram of at least=0D
 1200 bytes.=0D
 =0D
 The crypto retransmission timer is not set if the time threshold=0D
-{{time-threshold}} loss detection timer is set.  When the crypto=0D
-retransmission timer is active, the probe timer ({{pto}}) is not active.=
=0D
+{{time-threshold}} loss detection timer is set.  The time threshold loss=
=0D
+detection timer is both expected to expire earlier than the crypto=0D
+retransmission timeout and be much less likely to spuriously retransmit =
data.=0D
+The Initial and Handshake packet number spaces are typically going to ha=
ve a=0D
=0D

I'm not sure what the number of packets in these spaces has to do with= the description here about crypto timeout. Why is this sentence here?=0D =0D

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -537,8 +537,13 @@ and otherwise it MUST send an Initial packet in a UDP datagram of at least
 1200 bytes.
 
 The crypto retransmission timer is not set if the time threshold
-{{time-threshold}} loss detection timer is set.  When the crypto
-retransmission timer is active, the probe timer ({{pto}}) is not active.
+{{time-threshold}} loss detection timer is set.  The time threshold loss
+detection timer is both expected to expire earlier than the crypto
+retransmission timeout and be much less likely to spuriously retransmit data.
+The Initial and Handshake packet number spaces are typically going to have a

If the number of packets is small, it's unlikely you'll hit the packet threshold loss detection, making time threshold much more important.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -537,8 +537,13 @@ and otherwise it MUST send an Initial packet in a UDP datagram of at least
 1200 bytes.
 
 The crypto retransmission timer is not set if the time threshold
-{{time-threshold}} loss detection timer is set.  When the crypto
-retransmission timer is active, the probe timer ({{pto}}) is not active.
+{{time-threshold}} loss detection timer is set.  The time threshold loss
+detection timer is both expected to expire earlier than the crypto
+retransmission timeout and be much less likely to spuriously retransmit data.
+The Initial and Handshake packet number spaces are typically going to have a

I tightened up the text, but feel free to suggest further clarification.

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I'll note that infinite is not a valid unsigned integer either, so I'm increasingly not in love with the complexity this causes vs just using signed integers. QUIC only supports 62 bit ints on the wire, so signed integers are not an implementation burden.

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Can you clarify why it's inadequate on the still open issue?

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This PR adds text and pseudo-code to clarify what an endpoint should do when PTO fires and there is no data or other ack-eliciting frames to send. Also does a bit of editorializing to replace "sender" with "endpoint" in the relevant section. Closes #2493. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2624 -- Commit Summary -- * Add details of marking packets lost on PTO -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md (59) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2624.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2624.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2624 ----==_mimepart_5cb5004ed73ca_62603fd06cad45b86812e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

This PR adds text and pseudo-code to clarify what an endpoint should do when PTO fires and there is no data or other ack-eliciting frames to send.

Also does a bit of editorializing to replace "sender" with "endpoint" in the relevant section.

Closes #2493.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2624

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  • Add details of marking packets lost on PTO

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@ianswett: UINT64_MAX is commonly used as infinite. FWIW, = I don't think it's a lot of complexity. Implementations have to handle sp= ecial case conditions (such as initial state) anyways, and writing it dow= n doesn't make implementations more complex.

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[ci skip] From nobody Mon Apr 15 17:17:33 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56FB812028B for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 17:17:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id T184dkO762Mi for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 17:17:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-15.smtp.github.com (out-15.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A7F91120043 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 17:17:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2019 17:17:29 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1555373849; bh=P3owZWAX7KoSLzBGbVgRX3TVoqSPinmJF35opHm0TD8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=EaXQgS2+Ffz4bgSZytEwFkV2/1ttK1q7RySFMwCeXP+i4gg+sXinSvbazSsiyyCSS en1XHrDwKe74gy0DmuKA3cjW20PX05a4X9WX3Ud0fD4NDiMroUhlzDtGAUSDAdcZoQ d/hauEh1/1F/7IhEiO0FOsGBkwOYIP3tPQ47WmbE= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] lost_pn can no longer be negative (#2621) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cb51f198955_27a53f86eb0d45c41051ad"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 00:17:31 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cb51f198955_27a53f86eb0d45c41051ad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Good point about 62 bits, but I'm generally wary of implementing PN as a signed int. You'd have to check for < 0 in all sorts of places then. Yeah, we do not need to check < 0 for things we receive, because the encodings don't allow you to transfer negative numbers. So I think use of -1 does not introduce complexity. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2621#issuecomment-483464639 ----==_mimepart_5cb51f198955_27a53f86eb0d45c41051ad Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Good point about 62 bits, but I'm generally wary of implementing PN as= a signed int. You'd have to check for < 0 in all sorts of places then= .

Yeah, we do not need to check < 0 for things we receive, because th= e encodings don't allow you to transfer negative numbers. So I think use = of -1 does not introduce complexity.

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@ianswett requested changes on this pull request.

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Two things. If we want to change sender to endpoint in this draft, wh= ich I'm not a big fan of, I'd prefer to do so consistently in a single CL= . Also, the more I look at this issue, I think we have our SHOULD/MAY ba= ckwards and we SHOULD recommend always sending something, even if the onl= y purpose is to establish loss of outstanding packets.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

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Can you undo the editorializing about sender/endpoint for this PR? I = prefer sender in this context, but I'd prefer to separate that question o= ut.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

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-When a PTO timer expires, the sender MUST send one ack-eliciting packet =
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-to a single packet loss.=0D
+When a PTO timer expires, an endpoint MUST send at least one ack-eliciti=
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+packet as a probe, unless there are no ack-eliciting frames to send.  An=
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+endpoint MAY send up to two ack-eliciting packets, to avoid an expensive=
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+consecutive PTO expiration due to a single packet loss.=0D
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+It is possible that the endpoint has no new or previously-sent data or o=
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-ack-eliciting frames to send.  This can happe=
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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

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This pseudocode makes an excellent argument that we should recommend s= ending a PING to establish loss.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -537,8 +537,15 @@ and otherwise it MUST send an Initial packet in a UDP datagram of at least
 1200 bytes.
 
 The crypto retransmission timer is not set if the time threshold
-{{time-threshold}} loss detection timer is set.  When the crypto
-retransmission timer is active, the probe timer ({{pto}}) is not active.
+{{time-threshold}} loss detection timer is set.  The time threshold loss
+detection timer is expected to both expire earlier than the crypto
+retransmission timeout and be less likely to spuriously retransmit data.
+The Initial and Handshake packet number spaces typically have a small number
+of packets in them, so time threshold loss detection will typically declare
+packets lost before packet threshold.

I think what you want to say is that time-threshold is more likely to be used for loss detection than packet-threshold, since there just might not be enough packets. So how about just this, given that you've just talked about time-threshold: "The Initial and Handshake packet number spaces will typically carry a small number of packets, so losses are less likely to be detected using packet-threshold detection."

That said, I still am not sure that it's worth mentioning the packet-threshold here at all. But my opinion is not strong, so your call.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>      pto_count++
+    if (any ack-eliciting frames available to send):
+      SendOneOrTwoPackets()
+    else:
+      // Mark all packets in flight as lost

Why? Because you'd have to mark packets as lost?

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@ianswett: I've done s/endpoint/sender. Let's deal with this separately. On the SHOULD, thinking about this, yes, I think I agree with you. I'll modify the PR, let's see how that looks.

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I=E2=80=99m not following closely but in C signed integers are undefin= ed for operations modulo their size. I.e. overflow leads to random result= s, and this is not theoretical - optimizers take advantage.

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@janaiyengar Why do you want to use uints? The varint encoding imposes a limit smaller than MAX_INT64 anyway.

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----==_mimepart_5cb560eb3f4dc_11923fe9c8ad45c0527012-- From nobody Mon Apr 15 21:58:33 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06FD612011B for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 21:58:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.456 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.456 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bhPPV_yWhYe7 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 21:58:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 611A612012C for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 21:58:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2019 21:58:29 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1555390709; bh=/bQaKg0xJk5rZ0PpFoaT51vPAjdKumSUOthG/il8ne0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Pl+VWdw8cY9JEoB2iblANaCMRT+kdog//lpKllMC2UnPmjoXHQTcUwV2upC3uAUYv hhDFLAF/5GqqkPg6q+AdUHhWlVMeH50sna1car7Jr397Q8AU7kqqXNhaXcBzXUqne3 SGQ7qIDoo/clqQFE98D14GOKL5YYhFRd2RakxV2k= From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] My packet numbers go to -1 (#2623) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cb560f57e33a_19c13f8d9b2d45c012393c5"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 04:58:32 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cb560f57e33a_19c13f8d9b2d45c012393c5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit marten-seemann approved this pull request. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2623#pullrequestreview-226984359 ----==_mimepart_5cb560f57e33a_19c13f8d9b2d45c012393c5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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@kirsey could #2543 be modified to cover your issue? could you comment there?

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This is almost an editorial issue, except that we need to agree on MUST vs. SHOULD. Please comment, folks.

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----==_mimepart_5cb589f3e4f90_101a3fdf588d45c49123b-- From nobody Tue Apr 16 00:54:41 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF689120150 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 00:54:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K27nPyXy_ob5 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 00:54:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F3F02120330 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 00:54:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 00:54:37 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1555401277; bh=MP9j6c5jxYWCoDXxPDGu+LiH+faN5EZr2PcEoJUSJZg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=q8uU/QhYtEZltcBRliuQoHTcDBc/5mWPA6y/YpiCksk/jPcp4FPuarlXrJD5Hjp7i rzI7EFgfiTnMSGP9jUnEmfkTpjWIu3c5V5hF0y4tBxZ95o/78F0VsjruFh8St2mK8+ ahtryyObNoruOLuFLxoJg/5L0exJMPD31BntjAUQ= From: Lars Eggert Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clients cannot abandon Initial packets while server can still send initial close (#2541) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cb58a3d299d3_4083fbdf9ad45c0242572"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: larseggert X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 07:54:40 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cb58a3d299d3_4083fbdf9ad45c0242572 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It looks like this will become resolved once #2214 lands. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2541#issuecomment-483552157 ----==_mimepart_5cb58a3d299d3_4083fbdf9ad45c0242572 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

It looks like this will become resolved once #2214 lands.

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Waiting for @erickinnear to land this PR so a discussion can happen.

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@martinthomson and others, is kazuho/base-drafts@9017aae kind of the editorial change you were envisioning?

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@martinthomson are you saying that because the version registry is stable across versions, its contents in effect become part of the invariants?

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Would it make sense to refer to the version registry (or at least its definition) in invariants? If that's all this is about, we could just call this editorial< I think.

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Are we happy to just call this v2 then?

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Closed #2587.

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@larseggert Ok, I will make proposals within #2543 to cover this issue.

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----==_mimepart_5cb59731af44b_7e353fafdf4d45bc409118-- From nobody Tue Apr 16 01:57:34 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65BE41204A7 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 01:57:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5ktf_QUyiRdk for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 01:57:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5163312047C for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 01:57:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 01:57:16 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1555405036; bh=eYe8Zc8jH2+IW/j/4wz0iBA3feMk90ixstmg7D+9QEE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Mrxqu+zXat42CdfMIGd3zdeYxBSvWiDz1ks4RmoNEuEwSjd/g61rw7RUMuz/5ZLw+ PhUC41p9oVTX2v3+Umte/W8xnCAKUbz0HwS3JJ5B0lo1MI0o+dDqPo90PWKCdRWMaS tHlHuL+u1wMcQXGaNpRR7Fb6HM8HpzREaVYDGz3Y= From: Erik Sy Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] NEW_TOKEN token and encryption (#2543) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cb598ec6f09c_64603f83be0d45b83552bd"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kirsey X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 08:57:27 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cb598ec6f09c_64603f83be0d45b83552bd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was asked to move #2587 here. I miss the point, that the server SHOULD NOT construct the same token multiple times because this leads to additional scenarios where tracking by a network observer becomes feasible. The referenced PR does not fix this problem. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2543#issuecomment-483573184 ----==_mimepart_5cb598ec6f09c_64603f83be0d45b83552bd Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I was asked to move #2587 here. I miss the point, that the server SHOULD NOT construct the same token multiple times because this leads to additional scenarios where tracking by a network observer becomes feasible. The referenced PR does not fix this problem.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -623,10 +623,21 @@ time.
 
 ### Sending Probe Packets
 
-When a PTO timer expires, the sender MUST send one ack-eliciting packet as a
-probe, unless there is nothing to send. A sender MAY send up to two
-ack-eliciting packets, to avoid an expensive consecutive PTO expiration due
-to a single packet loss.
+When a PTO timer expires, a sender MUST send at least one ack-eliciting packet
+as a probe, unless there is no data available to send.  An endpoint MAY send up
+to two ack-eliciting packets, to avoid an expensive consecutive PTO expiration
+due to a single packet loss.
+
+It is possible that the sender has no new or previously-sent data to send.  For
+example, this can happen when there is no new application data to send and all
+streams with data in flight are reset (see Section 13.2 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}).

As Nick Banks has repeatedly pointed out, when you reset a stream, you send a STREAM_RESET frame, which is ack-eliciting, so this example doesn't really hold up that well. A MESSAGE/DATAGRAM frame is the easiest real-world example because it's ack-eliciting and unreliable, but it's not in the v1 draft :(

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -537,8 +537,15 @@ and otherwise it MUST send an Initial packet in a UDP datagram of at least
 1200 bytes.
 
 The crypto retransmission timer is not set if the time threshold
-{{time-threshold}} loss detection timer is set.  When the crypto
-retransmission timer is active, the probe timer ({{pto}}) is not active.
+{{time-threshold}} loss detection timer is set.  The time threshold loss
+detection timer is expected to both expire earlier than the crypto
+retransmission timeout and be less likely to spuriously retransmit data.
+The Initial and Handshake packet number spaces typically have a small number
+of packets in them, so time threshold loss detection will typically declare
+packets lost before packet threshold.

Thanks, suggestion taken. I think why you'd arm the loss-detection timer is non-obvious, so I thought more explanatory text was better than less, and I think the small number of packets argument is relevant.

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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Apr 16 04:48:05 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55E5712032B for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 04:48:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pZlKJz1N9kr7 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 04:48:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9B56312015C for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 04:48:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 04:48:01 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1555415281; bh=YIavxgNCftsB7M6qYoAku5q5ZMIrJzaWeMhj+wd35ms=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=iDRFZ3icnM8za3fkdWOgMWBZir/q5XHf/jOdQFiwg/1dbgs0Ao2urEnmN8NZi0ud8 LGE10ZRP46UCie7NX3WG5kZC0PXQzMQZSam8JpVBRrGO/TyY/vqXOnipVTk464EL0z VnlsSMF+7s04inalrZZB3o83QYZMlF8Wd887ZoTw= From: Lars Eggert Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Construction of address validation token (#2587) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cb5c0f18e1c0_37e63fadce0d45c41121f5"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: larseggert X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 11:48:04 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cb5c0f18e1c0_37e63fadce0d45c41121f5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @mnot the automation failed here - this should not be moved to "Text Incorporated", it should just be closed -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@mnot the automation failed here - this should not be moved to "Text Incorporated", it should just be closed

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This relates to our principles: #2388

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----==_mimepart_5cb5cdc0b7ad9_2e463fdbcaed45b417502e-- From nobody Tue Apr 16 06:57:38 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 676E3120463 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 06:57:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3i2AttrGnqhD for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 06:57:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8FFD2120456 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 06:57:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 06:57:33 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1555423053; bh=IR4/jvaOqbUFERWi0GlgIiimHJrsh8I6nMbHZIB4iBA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=miX6aO5CKWTiOxzcGo8OX1SadP5zMb4qNJJeIZyqX1ibJcEet0tESjudhPBAS6Mjy NZ+qOAQtZHT0TteGpWbqs16DJts0Usi9bKy0oB4ZvST3d26B/RFgXNJIA/60O+pOQs i0/TTvGXZS56zzoI36KSRUybXk5OezgRpWt0+whU= From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Add details of marking packets lost on PTO (#2624) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cb5df4d78e30_4bb73f83afad45b8136939"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 13:57:37 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cb5df4d78e30_4bb73f83afad45b8136939 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nibanks commented on this pull request. > @@ -623,10 +623,21 @@ time. ### Sending Probe Packets -When a PTO timer expires, the sender MUST send one ack-eliciting packet as a -probe, unless there is nothing to send. A sender MAY send up to two -ack-eliciting packets, to avoid an expensive consecutive PTO expiration due -to a single packet loss. +When a PTO timer expires, a sender MUST send at least one ack-eliciting packet +as a probe, unless there is no data available to send. An endpoint MAY send up +to two ack-eliciting packets, to avoid an expensive consecutive PTO expiration +due to a single packet loss. + +It is possible that the sender has no new or previously-sent data to send. For +example, this can happen when there is no new application data to send and all +streams with data in flight are reset (see Section 13.2 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}). Maybe the best example is if the PTO timer expires and the only thing left outstanding was a spurious retransmission. For instance, packet 1 sent a stream frame, then you thought it was lost, then you sent packet 2 but then an ACK came for packet 1. Then PTO fires. You can mark that packet as possibly lost, but it wouldn't cause anything to be queued for transmit. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2624#discussion_r275810926 ----==_mimepart_5cb5df4d78e30_4bb73f83afad45b8136939 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@nibanks commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -623,10 +623,21 @@ time.
 
 ### Sending Probe Packets
 
-When a PTO timer expires, the sender MUST send one ack-eliciting packet as a
-probe, unless there is nothing to send. A sender MAY send up to two
-ack-eliciting packets, to avoid an expensive consecutive PTO expiration due
-to a single packet loss.
+When a PTO timer expires, a sender MUST send at least one ack-eliciting packet
+as a probe, unless there is no data available to send.  An endpoint MAY send up
+to two ack-eliciting packets, to avoid an expensive consecutive PTO expiration
+due to a single packet loss.
+
+It is possible that the sender has no new or previously-sent data to send.  For
+example, this can happen when there is no new application data to send and all
+streams with data in flight are reset (see Section 13.2 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}).

Maybe the best example is if the PTO timer expires and the only thing left outstanding was a spurious retransmission. For instance, packet 1 sent a stream frame, then you thought it was lost, then you sent packet 2 but then an ACK came for packet 1. Then PTO fires. You can mark that packet as possibly lost, but it wouldn't cause anything to be queued for transmit.

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Yes, v2 (I realize my previous comment was unclear on this)

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Yes, the original issue was about underflow(ie: negative numbers), not overflow. In practice, even a signed int64 is not going to overflow in any of this pseudocode, because packet numbers are 62 bits.

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I think Igor's suggestion of "a MUST, unless the endpoint has other means validate the validate the new path" seems sensible, but either way this needs a PR.

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Fixing the naming(retransmission timeout to probe timeout) is trivial,= but I'm not sure what to recommend here for when to disable ECN. Also, = probe timeouts don't occur until the handshake is complete, is that a pro= blem?

One idea that's somewhat in keeping with RFC3168 would be to disable E= CN on crypto handshake timeouts and probe timeouts, and if the un-marked = packets get through and the marked do not, disable ECN. But even that is= subject to random loss and I believe is likely to spuriously trigger. W= e could disable ECN temporarily on only the second timeout, to reduce the= chance of spurious disabling?

RFC8311(https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8311#section-4.3) says = we can do something different from 3168 if we document it, but doesn't sp= ecify what.

Is there some useful RFC I can cite that I haven't found, or are we on= our own in designing a mechanism here?

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LG overall, but I think the example needs to be fixed, unfortunately. > @@ -623,10 +623,21 @@ time. ### Sending Probe Packets -When a PTO timer expires, the sender MUST send one ack-eliciting packet as a -probe, unless there is nothing to send. A sender MAY send up to two -ack-eliciting packets, to avoid an expensive consecutive PTO expiration due -to a single packet loss. +When a PTO timer expires, a sender MUST send at least one ack-eliciting packet +as a probe, unless there is no data available to send. An endpoint MAY send up +to two ack-eliciting packets, to avoid an expensive consecutive PTO expiration +due to a single packet loss. + +It is possible that the sender has no new or previously-sent data to send. For +example, this can happen when there is no new application data to send and all +streams with data in flight are reset (see Section 13.2 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}). +Under these conditions, the sender SHOULD send PING or other ack-eliciting +frames in up to two packets, re-arming the PTO timer. Why send two packets in the case when you're just trying to establish loss? I'd specifically say 1 packet for this case. > -When a PTO timer expires, the sender MUST send one ack-eliciting packet as a -probe, unless there is nothing to send. A sender MAY send up to two -ack-eliciting packets, to avoid an expensive consecutive PTO expiration due -to a single packet loss. +When a PTO timer expires, a sender MUST send at least one ack-eliciting packet +as a probe, unless there is no data available to send. An endpoint MAY send up +to two ack-eliciting packets, to avoid an expensive consecutive PTO expiration +due to a single packet loss. + +It is possible that the sender has no new or previously-sent data to send. For +example, this can happen when there is no new application data to send and all +streams with data in flight are reset (see Section 13.2 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}). +Under these conditions, the sender SHOULD send PING or other ack-eliciting +frames in up to two packets, re-arming the PTO timer. + +When there is no data to send, the sender MAY mark any packets still in flight I'd like to be clear that this is an alternative, so maybe say "Alternatively, when there is..."? > @@ -1242,7 +1246,8 @@ OnLossDetectionTimeout(): SendOnePaddedInitialPacket() crypto_count++ else: - // PTO + // PTO. Send new data if available, else retransmit old data. + // If neither is available, send PING frames. ```suggestion // If neither is available, send a PING frame. ``` > @@ -1455,8 +1460,7 @@ Invoked when an ACK frame with an ECN section is received from the peer. ## On Packets Lost -Invoked by loss detection from DetectLostPackets when new packets -are detected lost. +Invoked when packets are deemed lost. Is it worth specifying "from DetectLostPackets" still? > @@ -623,10 +623,21 @@ time. ### Sending Probe Packets -When a PTO timer expires, the sender MUST send one ack-eliciting packet as a -probe, unless there is nothing to send. A sender MAY send up to two -ack-eliciting packets, to avoid an expensive consecutive PTO expiration due -to a single packet loss. +When a PTO timer expires, a sender MUST send at least one ack-eliciting packet +as a probe, unless there is no data available to send. An endpoint MAY send up +to two ack-eliciting packets, to avoid an expensive consecutive PTO expiration +due to a single packet loss. + +It is possible that the sender has no new or previously-sent data to send. For +example, this can happen when there is no new application data to send and all +streams with data in flight are reset (see Section 13.2 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}). Because of the reset issue, I think another example, such as Nick's, would be best. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2624#pullrequestreview-227249612 ----==_mimepart_5cb5ed489db2e_5c903fbbee6d45b8258143 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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LG overall, but I think the example needs to be fixed, unfortunately.<= /p>

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

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due=0D
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+When a PTO timer expires, a sender MUST send at least one ack-eliciting =
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+to two ack-eliciting packets, to avoid an expensive consecutive PTO expi=
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+due to a single packet loss.=0D
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Why send two packets in the case when you're just trying to establish = loss? I'd specifically say 1 packet for this case.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

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-probe, unless there is nothing to send. A sender MAY send up to two=0D
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Is it worth specifying "from DetectLostPackets" still?

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 ### Sending Probe Packets=0D
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-ack-eliciting packets, to avoid an expensive consecutive PTO expiration =
due=0D
-to a single packet loss.=0D
+When a PTO timer expires, a sender MUST send at least one ack-eliciting =
packet=0D
+as a probe, unless there is no data available to send.  An endpoint MAY =
send up=0D
+to two ack-eliciting packets, to avoid an expensive consecutive PTO expi=
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+due to a single packet loss.=0D
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+example, this can happen when there is no new application data to send a=
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Because of the reset issue, I think another example, such as Nick's, w= ould be best.

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As written now, this swaps a SHOULD and a MAY, so I'm changing it to design.

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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +CRYPTO frames out of order. Endpoints MAY choose to allow more data to be
+buffered during the handshake. A larger limit during the handshake could allow
+for larger keys or credentials to be exchanged. An endpoint's buffer size does
+not need to remain constant during the life of the connection.
+
+Being unable to buffer CRYPTO frames during the handshake leads to a connection
+failure. If an endpoint's buffer is exceeded during the handshake, it can expand
+its buffer temporarily to complete the handshake. If an endpoint cannot expand
+its buffer, it MUST close the connection with a CRYPTO_BUFFER_EXCEEDED error
+code.
+
+Once the handshake completes, if an endpoint is unable to buffer all data in a
+CRYPTO frame, it MAY discard all subsequent CRYPTO frames, or it MAY close the
+connection with an CRYPTO_BUFFER_EXCEEDED error code. If an endpoint chooses to
+discard all subsequent CRYPTO frames, the packets containing these CRYPTO frames
+MUST be acknowledged.

They were received and processed at the transport layer, so this makes sense.

How about "Packets containing discarded CRYPTO frames MUST be acknowledged, because they were received and processed by the transport, even though they were discarded prior to the crypto stack processing them."

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I agree, this doesn't seem to mesh with the discussion on the issue. If nothing else, it introduces the inconsistency @LPardue pointed out, but the gist of the issue seems to be that a receiver MAY check that it's zero.

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How about probing ECN on even packet numbers for the first N packets before making a decision, where N is tunable.

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I'm still a little torn about making almost every possible error a connection error, but they are correctness issues. Are you planning to address the two points you raise above? > @@ -586,10 +586,10 @@ using a Stream ID of 0, as in QUIC stream 0 carries a valid HTTP request. The root of the tree cannot be reprioritized. A PRIORITY frame sent on a request stream with the Prioritized Element Type set to any value other than `11` or which expresses a dependency on a request with a greater Stream ID than the -current stream MUST be treated as a stream error of type HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME. -Likewise, a PRIORITY frame sent on a control stream with the Prioritized Element -Type set to `11` MUST be treated as a connection error of type -HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME. +current stream MUST be treated as a connection error of type +HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME. Likewise, a PRIORITY frame sent on a control stream with +the Prioritized Element Type set to `11` MUST be treated as a connection error +of type HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME. Since this paragraph is structured as "things that cause a stream error" and "things that cause a connection error," I suspect we could fold everything together if everything is going to be a connection error. Maybe even something like: ``` The following situations MUST be treated as connection errors of type HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME: - A PRIORITY frame sent on a request stream with the Prioritized Element Type set to any value other than `11` - A PRIORITY frame which expresses a dependency on a request with a greater Stream ID than the current stream - A PRIORITY frame sent on a control stream with the Prioritized Element Type set to `11` ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@MikeBishop commented on this pull request.

@kazuho, thanks for writing this up. I'm still a little torn about making almost every possible error a connection error, but they are correctness issues. Are you planning to address the two points you raise above?

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -586,10 +586,10 @@ using a Stream ID of 0, as in QUIC stream 0 carries a valid HTTP request.  The
 root of the tree cannot be reprioritized.  A PRIORITY frame sent on a request
 stream with the Prioritized Element Type set to any value other than `11` or
 which expresses a dependency on a request with a greater Stream ID than the
-current stream MUST be treated as a stream error of type HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME.
-Likewise, a PRIORITY frame sent on a control stream with the Prioritized Element
-Type set to `11` MUST be treated as a connection error of type
-HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME.
+current stream MUST be treated as a connection error of type
+HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME.  Likewise, a PRIORITY frame sent on a control stream with
+the Prioritized Element Type set to `11` MUST be treated as a connection error
+of type HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME.

Since this paragraph is structured as "things that cause a stream error" and "things that cause a connection error," I suspect we could fold everything together if everything is going to be a connection error. Maybe even something like:

The following situations MUST be treated as connection errors of type HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME:
  - A PRIORITY frame sent on a request stream with the Prioritized Element
    Type set to any value other than `11`
  - A PRIORITY frame which expresses a dependency on a request with a 
    greater Stream ID than the	current stream  
  - A PRIORITY frame sent on a control stream with the Prioritized Element
    Type set to `11`

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@nharper commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +CRYPTO frames out of order. Endpoints MAY choose to allow more data to be
+buffered during the handshake. A larger limit during the handshake could allow
+for larger keys or credentials to be exchanged. An endpoint's buffer size does
+not need to remain constant during the life of the connection.
+
+Being unable to buffer CRYPTO frames during the handshake leads to a connection
+failure. If an endpoint's buffer is exceeded during the handshake, it can expand
+its buffer temporarily to complete the handshake. If an endpoint cannot expand
+its buffer, it MUST close the connection with a CRYPTO_BUFFER_EXCEEDED error
+code.
+
+Once the handshake completes, if an endpoint is unable to buffer all data in a
+CRYPTO frame, it MAY discard all subsequent CRYPTO frames, or it MAY close the
+connection with an CRYPTO_BUFFER_EXCEEDED error code. If an endpoint chooses to
+discard all subsequent CRYPTO frames, the packets containing these CRYPTO frames
+MUST be acknowledged.

I tweaked the wording to be similar to that.

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Fixes #2528 (#2560) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cb64aa2b24f3_6cff3fcfedad45c413564d0"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 21:35:34 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cb64aa2b24f3_6cff3fcfedad45c413564d0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MikeBishop commented on this pull request.=0D =0D These issues are not with the text as written, but with Jana's suggested = changes. =F0=9F=98=89=0D =0D > @@ -1249,7 +1249,11 @@ quic_transport_parameters extension carries a Tr= ansportParameters struct when=0D the version of QUIC defined in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}} is used.=0D =0D The quic_transport_parameters extension is carried in the ClientHello an= d the=0D -EncryptedExtensions messages during the handshake.=0D +EncryptedExtensions messages during the handshake. Endpoints MUST send t= he=0D +quic_transport_parameters extension; endpoints that receive ClientHello = or=0D +EncryptedExtensions messages without the quic_transport_parameters exten= sion=0D +MUST terminate the TLS handshake with a fatal missing_extension alert (a= n error=0D =0D This will result in "Section Section X.Y" in the final output.=0D =0D > @@ -1258,8 +1262,8 @@ parameters will cause the handshake to fail.=0D =0D Endpoints MUST NOT send this extension in a TLS connection that does not= use=0D QUIC (such as the use of TLS with TCP defined in {{!TLS13}}). A fatal=0D= -unsupported_extension alert MUST be sent if this extension is received w= hen the=0D -transport is not QUIC.=0D +unsupported_extension alert (an error of 0x16e) MUST be sent if this ext= ension=0D +is received when the transport is not QUIC.=0D =0D Same.=0D =0D -- =0D You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.=0D Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub:=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2560#pullrequestreview-2274571= 45= ----==_mimepart_5cb64aa2b24f3_6cff3fcfedad45c413564d0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@MikeBishop commented on this pull request.

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These issues are not with the text as written, but with Jana's suggest= ed changes. =F0=9F= =98=89

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

=0D 
> @@ -1249,7 +1249,11 @@ quic_transport_para=
meters extension carries a TransportParameters struct when=0D
 the version of QUIC defined in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}} is used.=0D
 =0D
 The quic_transport_parameters extension is carried in the ClientHello an=
d the=0D
-EncryptedExtensions messages during the handshake.=0D
+EncryptedExtensions messages during the handshake. Endpoints MUST send t=
he=0D
+quic_transport_parameters extension; endpoints that receive ClientHello =
or=0D
+EncryptedExtensions messages without the quic_transport_parameters exten=
sion=0D
+MUST terminate the TLS handshake with a fatal missing_extension alert (a=
n error=0D
=0D

This will result in "Section Section X.Y" in the final output.

=0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

=0D 
> @@ -1258,8 +1262,8 @@ parameters will caus=
e the handshake to fail.=0D
 =0D
 Endpoints MUST NOT send this extension in a TLS connection that does not=
 use=0D
 QUIC (such as the use of TLS with TCP defined in {{!TLS13}}).  A fatal=0D=

-unsupported_extension alert MUST be sent if this extension is received w=
hen the=0D
-transport is not QUIC.=0D
+unsupported_extension alert (an error of 0x16e) MUST be sent if this ext=
ension=0D
+is received when the transport is not QUIC.=0D
=0D

Same.

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@nharper commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -1258,8 +1262,8 @@ parameters will cause the handshake to fail.
 
 Endpoints MUST NOT send this extension in a TLS connection that does not use
 QUIC (such as the use of TLS with TCP defined in {{!TLS13}}).  A fatal
-unsupported_extension alert MUST be sent if this extension is received when the
-transport is not QUIC.
+unsupported_extension alert (an error of 0x16e) MUST be sent if this extension
+is received when the transport is not QUIC.

I agree with @MikeBishop. Specifying the QUIC error code to send if the extension is received when the transport isn't QUIC doesn't make much sense.

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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Apr 16 15:18:53 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E01C7120176 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 15:18:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PsDInBlkWj1r for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 15:18:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B364B1200FB for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 15:18:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 15:18:45 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1555453125; bh=+1q30s1zrgTvsIjJUYC+Mhrn/l6xt4MAb/oSYnVftpc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=BuU8bkms1XKJFHxZ2MKp5EB7NDD3YD/ztgMQ3wmh4kDjbOkL0lGvTu1FmhLfcI9tK 12hRxwtANJFIr7S1mDlOKHasmWmQYJT3xC8lyykgfCjOuLK9GUvQcH06m0xLlbNLoh 4LZCMEHrx1rExBHtHNYcSM6pMjXPwW4xrf/eUfew= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Use semicolons for section references (#2626) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cb654c5d0b66_5643fb4a5ed45c48465"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 22:18:49 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cb654c5d0b66_5643fb4a5ed45c48465 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "This is a description of something technical; see {{place}} [for more details]." is more correct than "This is a description of something technical, see {{place}} [for more details]." because the "...see {{place}}" is a separate thought. The comma is appropriate when it's saying "For more details, see {{place}}." because that's a single thought. We have a mix throughout the documents; this PR attempts to reconcile them. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2626 -- Commit Summary -- * Use semicolons for section references where not part of the parent sentence * Same in TLS * Same in Recovery * Same in QPACK -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md (2) M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md (4) M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md (10) M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (38) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2626.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2626.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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"This is a description of something technical; see {{place}} [for more details]." is more correct than "This is a description of something technical, see {{place}} [for more details]." because the "...see {{place}}" is a separate thought. The comma is appropriate when it's saying "For more details, see {{place}}." because that's a single thought.

We have a mix throughout the documents; this PR attempts to reconcile them.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2626

Commit Summary

  • Use semicolons for section references where not part of the parent sentence
  • Same in TLS
  • Same in Recovery
  • Same in QPACK

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Hopefully clarifies comments from #2565 * Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Index DetectLostPackets by [pn_space] * Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Co-Authored-By: ianswett * Simplify text * Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md * Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Jana's suggestion From nobody Tue Apr 16 15:45:45 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B8DD120058 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 15:45:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2lzBIk-VqAWL for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 15:45:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1201212025F for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 15:45:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 15:45:37 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1555454737; bh=gWGsj+xh8iO4qs7soOXUCz8W9yZgl3d+cJ2Wp9nZoJw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=uPL1pXYp5B8takc1zfQuxtD46UeSivcsKLFJM/uBQmhGoDM9xRsOai8XinmbLCcUW /3ij7fI2nUviypx0UKsXO6OdcKRHGw7xoQCzqotOkkFgoAly9AQSFy1N2Zmwka4IgV yvH0AMpCz3twpVqZguL5hNzA/Hw9YvcBOXNX0wEg= From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clarify time threshold vs crypto timer (#2620) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cb65b11147d2_1cb3fab4a0d45b48565d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 22:45:40 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cb65b11147d2_1cb3fab4a0d45b48565d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Merged #2620 into master. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Apr 16 15:51:21 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E1FC1203EE for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 15:51:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ylJgEo8n0VsL for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 15:51:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0C127120260 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 15:51:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 15:51:16 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1555455076; bh=0F1JaC0abMn8RuM4MkWoWvniPTyDYush1XHHSHSAYac=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=vO0FKQUQnIg3+Jz3BLvqBTiqBKvI1pncTSBjXRS6MjhC+TU8VrB4Zs8kHpU2/T9js wuk0eROj5Y7vrA1rDUe6u+Pi/KF6lH4BltHEvseE+wqSrIWua8ZONnCWfvZV4DgCOO 0kK2KeMG5B5n/0jqEqPB+KLXIlM1aylRKgT02s2o= From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Add details of marking packets lost on PTO (#2624) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cb65c64206e6_7da13f7ee3ed45bc20757a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 22:51:19 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cb65c64206e6_7da13f7ee3ed45bc20757a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit janaiyengar commented on this pull request. > @@ -623,10 +623,21 @@ time. ### Sending Probe Packets -When a PTO timer expires, the sender MUST send one ack-eliciting packet as a -probe, unless there is nothing to send. A sender MAY send up to two -ack-eliciting packets, to avoid an expensive consecutive PTO expiration due -to a single packet loss. +When a PTO timer expires, a sender MUST send at least one ack-eliciting packet +as a probe, unless there is no data available to send. An endpoint MAY send up +to two ack-eliciting packets, to avoid an expensive consecutive PTO expiration +due to a single packet loss. + +It is possible that the sender has no new or previously-sent data to send. For +example, this can happen when there is no new application data to send and all +streams with data in flight are reset (see Section 13.2 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}). Yeah, good point. Thanks for the alternate example, @nibanks. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -623,10 +623,21 @@ time.
 
 ### Sending Probe Packets
 
-When a PTO timer expires, the sender MUST send one ack-eliciting packet as a
-probe, unless there is nothing to send. A sender MAY send up to two
-ack-eliciting packets, to avoid an expensive consecutive PTO expiration due
-to a single packet loss.
+When a PTO timer expires, a sender MUST send at least one ack-eliciting packet
+as a probe, unless there is no data available to send.  An endpoint MAY send up
+to two ack-eliciting packets, to avoid an expensive consecutive PTO expiration
+due to a single packet loss.
+
+It is possible that the sender has no new or previously-sent data to send.  For
+example, this can happen when there is no new application data to send and all
+streams with data in flight are reset (see Section 13.2 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}).

Yeah, good point. Thanks for the alternate example, @nibanks.

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I'm not sure exactly what needs to be updated, but it's fairly clear this section is out of date.

Example: "Below is a listing of how each HTTP/2 frame type is mapped:" and below.
ie: "As described above, the PRIORITY region of HEADERS is not supported. ..."

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I believe what the text was actually meant to say was that if you set the ECT code point and you loose ALL packet which the code point set, you MAY disable it.

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I believe the new layout is much clearer for implementers. I made max_packet_size optional for reasons that I think are self-evident. I thought saving max_ack_delay might be useful for clients setting loss timers on their 0-RTT stuff. Everything else is required or forbidden. Per @MikeBishop's suggestion, I put all the new TPs in the required category. I also specified behavior when the EE msg omits a TP. I thought it would be simpler for servers that spit out a standard set of TPs to do things that way. Commit: 9d26bb01b3bf2f4b2a20aec931471bdc62f2c8e2 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9d26bb01b3bf2f4b2a20aec931471bdc62f2c8e2 Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2019-02-14 (Thu, 14 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Co-Authored-By: martinduke Commit: 1dd258aced8e9861e11e395a916dc575d189c3e8 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1dd258aced8e9861e11e395a916dc575d189c3e8 Author: martinduke Date: 2019-02-14 (Thu, 14 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- changed handling of new TPs per @ianswett, now dependent on the spec. Commit: b07ac2036b9b2d67b52aa78f28b8357edc9a475a https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b07ac2036b9b2d67b52aa78f28b8357edc9a475a Author: martinduke Date: 2019-02-15 (Fri, 15 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Adopted some of MT's rewording I think it reads better now. 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Commit: 0acd234a45ade4ce0d14cce05d34194ea5ce9504 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0acd234a45ade4ce0d14cce05d34194ea5ce9504 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-04-17 (Wed, 17 Apr 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #2467 from martinduke/patch-38 Refine Discussion of 0-RTT Transport Parameters Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/9283609cc676...0acd234a45ad From nobody Wed Apr 17 02:43:24 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D2CC1202CA for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2019 02:43:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eV2UTsbIZQiE for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2019 02:43:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o8.sgmail.github.com (o8.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.199]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 09111120148 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2019 02:43:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=jvMFrNJB0jPcMFoafwTEwZkTJwo=; b=Dx0rzEPzNDKn3/qS MwL2Dz7Gxhym5OqIaeCt77nmGb0Tcd/7EIrVadwDu/+L6cXufIc0bIBpdLD7rq/w NPoaArYPWvB/I/1aKoJYbyrFAD67lGaL4pH5IZ8DQiBKCkRpXeeSU7RktRoZAcXs UYvtzW+nweOIqCth4O2p8o3Wu4I= Received: by filter1147p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter1147p1las1-16263-5CB6F539-9 2019-04-17 09:43:21.297748794 +0000 UTC m=+573543.803480543 Received: from github-lowworker-1f7e42f.cp1-iad.github.net (unknown [192.30.252.46]) by ismtpd0036p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id 90iqUMgFQVaN8-nEpV8mzg for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2019 09:43:21.181 +0000 (UTC) Received: from github.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by github-lowworker-1f7e42f.cp1-iad.github.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20E71C02B8 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2019 02:43:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2019 09:43:21 +0000 (UTC) From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Refine Discussion of 0-RTT Transport Parameters (#2467) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cb6f5391a01e_29d83f86e9acd960462255"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak0RBP7IihEN/7scqps0n/ip2z35yP9KVG9Z3E pcBmUj7y1oq2BTF/owEGFfIqnekPZIiCP0LEs6vklH4aO4GllbZPSG8uAQ3Cbeuo9eBrTs1WKjO0Xw axgJYRZ6wSvv627GngTZw4uSIa10ynZ0QscUwL/d2xcFqtrl77RBSZg3F2YJPPvCBOlK79vYEJmHxd E= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2019 09:43:23 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cb6f5391a01e_29d83f86e9acd960462255 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Merged #2467 into master. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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[ci skip] From nobody Wed Apr 17 05:15:37 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72E3312045E for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2019 05:15:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hvzn54Z_9MDN for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2019 05:15:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9BD05120611 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2019 05:15:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2019 05:15:30 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1555503330; bh=U2F0eUW+k0PzrkqwTnrloDAxvI8v5wHIXZ3qFmX3aeQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=DVORV0Fsh01pboQMZHt6OuAecqwl2hlfcMObATHbxbaUI7jIr7bhJ4SC7qe23YZsO tKhf1kX4ndS7oJnfpf274oWL71mYilzhCULv+CguDy6HVmr4L6uwIOaasANX/WRIUU +Yd8oSymHk27S3G6whCoOTLVKL37SYzWwVU8F47c= From: mirjak Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Recommend of per-connection ID randomness for spin bit (#2628) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cb718e29c16a_11313fb9246cd96012451d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mirjak X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2019 12:15:36 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cb718e29c16a_11313fb9246cd96012451d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This was discussed on the original PR. While it is perfectly okay for an endpoint to set a per-packet random value (because there is also nothing we could even do to avoid that), I strongly think that this document should RECOMMEND per-flow/conn-ID randomness. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2628 -- Commit Summary -- * Recommend of per-connection ID randomness for spin bit -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (3) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2628.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2628.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2628 ----==_mimepart_5cb718e29c16a_11313fb9246cd96012451d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

This was discussed on the original PR. While it is perfectly okay for an endpoint to set a per-packet random value (because there is also nothing we could even do to avoid that), I strongly think that this document should RECOMMEND per-flow/conn-ID randomness.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2628

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  • Recommend of per-connection ID randomness for spin bit

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----==_mimepart_5cb718e29c16a_11313fb9246cd96012451d-- From nobody Wed Apr 17 07:09:27 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B7531205F6 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2019 07:09:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IkRVRXNTYswW for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2019 07:09:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o3.sgmail.github.com (o3.sgmail.github.com [192.254.112.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 016951204A8 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2019 07:09:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=m6vyTHpsYuJYwWbPXZu/UX5UD7Y=; b=wh0tUx+KPaidh+Me 0s5oX7iwBvJS4ppj6ldQOpEzCXjVSoTKHCzisvCXhMEzwnq+6Au4cWscUmbEVjRq qZft7kZmOFm0nf+9ceY823K3A8StHjCAoPrGMZNETj8h8tdQkHeHpd5cvYbcCSEe vpyCQL2ntv7PZqYKcmml1WBdWJ0= Received: by filter0345p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0345p1iad2-21279-5CB7338F-3F 2019-04-17 14:09:19.731427774 +0000 UTC m=+743355.536192319 Received: from github-lowworker-39ccb07.cp1-iad.github.net (unknown [192.30.252.40]) by ismtpd0012p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id kDVJy6vvTj-knGYLO8QqCA for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2019 14:09:19.625 +0000 (UTC) Received: from github.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by github-lowworker-39ccb07.cp1-iad.github.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CD01400AD5 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2019 07:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2019 14:09:20 +0000 (UTC) From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] H3 GOAWAY guidance still refers to MAX_STREAM_ID (#2629) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cb7338f8aaee_44293fd2970cd95c540226"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak31iJhRcrDuh2samE0MWLUX3o42nOoL5ce7at dvCvywUBqS/dQXnq4NKWsp9edbOw9PJvfTZ1lBlbNaH2UF/ADpebSQr3rOdLDUXj7OrZ3Sfk6npL9g dkEhnq4BolW06qmt8XP90VEnlwja0wvmygopHiEHGNZR/71t8TZn4P5Y468kBy2SAwTU1h5fqGw+7d E= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2019 14:09:26 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cb7338f8aaee_44293fd2970cd95c540226 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So a while back @lnicco pointed out on #1717 that GOAWAY guidance wasn't great, and @MikeBishop fixed this with nice prose in #1712. This is presently located in https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-http-19#section-6.2 In the meantime, the transport has replaced `MAX_STREAM_ID` with `MAX_STREAMS`. The guidance for connection clousure is now a little stale and needs an update. My one question is: if a server advertises `initial_max_streams_bidi` TP as 1, it processes one request on stream 0 and sends GOAWAY, is it expected that the GOAWAY contains a `stream_id` value of 4? NB: stream 4 was never a valid client-initiated bidirectional stream. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2629 ----==_mimepart_5cb7338f8aaee_44293fd2970cd95c540226 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

So a while back @lnicco pointed out on #1717 that GOAWAY guidance wasn= 't great, and @MikeBishop fixed this with nice prose in #1712. T= his is presently located in https://tools.ietf.org/html/d= raft-ietf-quic-http-19#section-6.2

In the meantime, the transport has replaced MAX_STREAM_ID w= ith MAX_STREAMS. The guidance for connection clousure is now a= little stale and needs an update.

My one question is: if a server advertises initial_max_streams_bid= i TP as 1, it processes one request on stream 0 and sends GOAWAY, is= it expected that the GOAWAY contains a stream_id value of 4? = NB: stream 4 was never a valid client-initiated bidirectional stream.

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Also unless I'm missing it somewhere in the text, I don't see any guidance on sending multiple GOAWAY frames. I'd lean towards adding text similar to RFC 7540:

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@MikeBishop Are you in favor of changing MUST to MAY, should I discard the PR, or have I misunderstood your comment completely?

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I think there might also be an off-by-one problem. If you process a request on the last logical client-initiated bidirectional stream, what value should be sent in GOAWAY?

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----==_mimepart_5cb74dbb80602_51a03f9bcf0cd960598f9-- From nobody Wed Apr 17 10:03:47 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93643120477 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2019 10:03:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2u5vzncuX1Ri for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2019 10:03:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BE5DA1203CB for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2019 10:03:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2019 10:03:37 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1555520617; bh=bj6ffAaRFmvj7omUTDzGb03qaa6LuKj0VAIgakwOAXY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=qR2tJb/VjKuL885ZNVPBpVbMeFbg/aHx6xr4etcVmlUeuuGLmxxFaqFDXHq8Il5nm Ou9dEkNb6cCccsJcME6cuIYRX1cEBJs8ItvpRXiiGSWdbKAqDm/OXQj5rncXf+e+bU LT9KrVdyb7PgCc/67eC4Je7nBABYIpG9cx1ARhmE= From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Recommend of per-connection ID randomness for spin bit (#2628) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cb75c6935b28_408c3fb7258cd96430325a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2019 17:03:46 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cb75c6935b28_408c3fb7258cd96430325a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @mirjak: I don't think this is editorial. Can you file an issue? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2628#issuecomment-484176996 ----==_mimepart_5cb75c6935b28_408c3fb7258cd96430325a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@mirjak: I don't think this is editorial. Can you file an issue?

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@mirjak @britram : any reason not to merge this? i think we have all the things we need in -transport now, as @LPardue says

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@MikeBishop @DavidSchinazi : Should we close this one in favor of #2461?

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I'll take this in, and open an issue for defining "under-utilized cwnd"

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[ci skip] From nobody Wed Apr 17 11:03:14 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80EDD1201B0 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2019 11:03:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9xqP7bAAIkLC for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2019 11:03:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 98A9D12017E for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2019 11:03:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2019 11:03:09 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1555524189; bh=zJbnVS+Jh6uFGMFBqjjGpS7tz6hNadKSK22Ftnv7IoU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ag2ONo/8tZSIbQWf6KrjEJJYyhHOzQ8erjeKBcZjA/FdSbTacsR4+0+VrPKwLY8p7 twjvGJkGX//PGlbFvWcx1BSNjngG0yAEfJYtZqTlH+pj7ai5+y/mHcoqqUH3bbUhC9 ntcQJEbYgLa2VbdtLlycCkCU2xs677/oRnDF2I8I= From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Add further guidance related to unidirectional stream TPs (#2612) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cb76a5dae7ae_77443fb987acd96c62521f"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2019 18:03:13 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cb76a5dae7ae_77443fb987acd96c62521f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit janaiyengar approved this pull request. A minor nit, but LGTM otherwise. > @@ -321,8 +321,17 @@ defined in this document: control streams ({{control-streams}}) and push streams ({{push-streams}}). Other stream types can be defined by extensions to HTTP/3; see {{extensions}} for more details. -Both clients and servers SHOULD send a value of three or greater for the QUIC -transport parameter `initial_max_uni_streams`. +The performance of HTTP/3 connections in the early phase of their lifetime is +sensitive to the creation and exchange of data on unidirectional streams. +Endpoints that set low values for the QUIC transport parameters +`initial_max_uni_streams` and `initial_max_stream_data_uni` will increase the +chance that the remote peer reaches the limit early and becomes blocked. In +particular, the value chosen for `initial_max_uni_streams` should consider that +remote peers may wish to exercise reserved stream behaviour ({{stream-grease}}). +To reduce the likelihood of blocking, both clients and servers SHOULD send a +value of three or greater for the QUIC transport parameter +`initial_max_uni_streams`, and a value of 1,024 or greater for the QUIC +transport `initial_max_stream_data_uni`. ```suggestion transport parameter `initial_max_stream_data_uni`. ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2612#pullrequestreview-227911387 ----==_mimepart_5cb76a5dae7ae_77443fb987acd96c62521f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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I intuitively like MUST, but what would the implications be of SHOULD? Would it broaden the attack surface? Probably. Implications of MUST: could an attacker force validation work by injection? How bad could that get?

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@janaiyengar That works for me.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2631,7 +2641,10 @@ number 0.  Subsequent packets sent in the same packet number space MUST increase
 the packet number by at least one.
 
 0-RTT and 1-RTT data exist in the same packet number space to make loss recovery
-algorithms easier to implement between the two packet types.
+algorithms easier to implement between the two packet types.  However, a client
+MUST NOT continue sending 0-RTT packets after beginning to use 1-RTT packets.
+Servers MUST drop 0-RTT packets with greater packet numbers than the lowest
+packet number they have received in a 1-RTT packet.

Nooo: an attacker can replay old 0-RTT packets with higher packet numbers and force a close. The packets MUST be dropped.

However, I don't like the explicit drop requirement. It should happen automatically when the 0-RTT key is dropped. No reason for the server to keep track of packet numbers if the key drop is precise.

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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2631,7 +2641,10 @@ number 0.  Subsequent packets sent in the same packet number space MUST increase
 the packet number by at least one.
 
 0-RTT and 1-RTT data exist in the same packet number space to make loss recovery
-algorithms easier to implement between the two packet types.
+algorithms easier to implement between the two packet types.  However, a client
+MUST NOT continue sending 0-RTT packets after beginning to use 1-RTT packets.
+Servers MUST drop 0-RTT packets with greater packet numbers than the lowest
+packet number they have received in a 1-RTT packet.

An attacker can't replay any packets except Initial with a higher packet number, unless the attacker has the keys(in which case, you have bigger problems).

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(#2580) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cb784082dcec_36a03ff50cecd95c7969a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: erickinnear X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2019 19:52:47 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cb784082dcec_36a03ff50cecd95c7969a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think elsewhere we had a "MUST, unless" for some of this, so sticking with that would be great (to second Igor and Ian's comments). Re: SHOULD, agreed that it would potentially broaden the attack surface, since some of the mitigations (the reason for the MUST in 9.2) rely on validation being performed. The attacker can cause you to generate validation packets by injection, but I think the discussion in #2582 should attempt to consider the implications of what happens when you end up validating on every incoming packet (the worst possible case here, and definitely a good thing to think about). My intent here is to put the non-editorial changes in a small PR to get the normative language right and then potentially follow with a larger PR that's (hopefully) purely editorial that rearranges these to get rid of some of the confusion around having requirements split across the sections. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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I think elsewhere we had a "MUST, unless" for some of this, so stickin= g with that would be great (to second Igor and Ian's comments).

Re: SHOULD, agreed that it would potentially broaden the attack surfac= e, since some of the mitigations (the reason for the MUST in 9.2) rely on= validation being performed.

The attacker can cause you to generate validation packets by injection= , but I think the discussion in #2582 should attempt to consid= er the implications of what happens when you end up validating on every i= ncoming packet (the worst possible case here, and definitely a good thing= to think about).

My intent here is to put the non-editorial changes in a small PR to ge= t the normative language right and then potentially follow with a larger = PR that's (hopefully) purely editorial that rearranges these to get rid o= f some of the confusion around having requirements split across the secti= ons.

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----==_mimepart_5cb7b21a38d0c_41ed3f843c2cd9683578f-- From nobody Wed Apr 17 16:45:20 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D65012024C for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2019 16:45:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xeVupJMuuUUU for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2019 16:45:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD7641200FC for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2019 16:45:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2019 16:45:15 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1555544715; bh=bA6V8CMzseobmZbK3J4TXsdikD+Sw/4VVoBzyoAgbHU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=W11lUDWmaC3wwPwDjNUUtFNWMLda6EZn2Yr1WmIU4DQanPX3m6KfB/Y+vINbsO4+e fNL15OEcRLMcGJl1853D1xYjpfqCmQJPjajLhU/X8ixQJBF3ZdccXpRRy8mBFwnZdi eVl+//xHi8vbWPa6/IypPU6iKMRNhxxE0f8zi1II= From: afrind Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] H3 GOAWAY guidance still refers to MAX_STREAM_ID (#2629) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cb7ba8b85c69_40fb3f843c2cd9682933d1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: afrind X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2019 23:45:19 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cb7ba8b85c69_40fb3f843c2cd9682933d1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > My one question is: if a server advertises initial_max_streams_bidi TP as 1, it processes one request on stream 0 and sends GOAWAY, is it expected that the GOAWAY contains a stream_id value of 4? NB: stream 4 was never a valid client-initiated bidirectional stream. My read is that you are supposed to send 4. I don't think it matters that it was never a valid stream ID. > I think there might also be an off-by-one problem. If you process a request on the last logical client-initiated bidirectional stream, what value should be sent in GOAWAY? We discussed this some on the slack, but recording here. If you process the last logical request on a connection (id=2^62 - 4), then you do not need to send a GOAWAY (in fact cannot, since what number would it have). The client will automatically move to a new connection for new requests, and none of the existing requests can be retried, unless the server explicitly sends REJECTED. Also, I strongly doubt this case will ever be hit in practice. My back of the envelope math suggests it will take thousands of years at 1 million RPS to send this many (client initiated bidi) streams. But the spec could probably use some text describing the edge case. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2629#issuecomment-484302045 ----==_mimepart_5cb7ba8b85c69_40fb3f843c2cd9682933d1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

My one question is: if a server advertises initial_max_streams_bidi TP= as 1, it processes one request on stream 0 and sends GOAWAY, is it expec= ted that the GOAWAY contains a stream_id value of 4? NB: stream 4 was nev= er a valid client-initiated bidirectional stream.

My read is that you are supposed to send 4. I don't think it matters = that it was never a valid stream ID.

I think there might also be an off-by-one problem. If you process a re= quest on the last logical client-initiated bidirectional stream, what val= ue should be sent in GOAWAY?

We discussed this some on the slack, but recording here. If you proce= ss the last logical request on a connection (id=3D2^62 - 4), then you do = not need to send a GOAWAY (in fact cannot, since what number would it hav= e). The client will automatically move to a new connection for new reque= sts, and none of the existing requests can be retried, unless the server = explicitly sends REJECTED. Also, I strongly doubt this case will ever be= hit in practice. My back of the envelope math suggests it will take tho= usands of years at 1 million RPS to send this many (client initiated bidi= ) streams.

But the spec could probably use some text describing the edge case.

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The current spec only allows GOAWAY to be sent from the server to the client and contains only the last processed bidirectional stream ID. This makes sense for the vanilla HTTP use case, but may not play well with extensions. Unidirectional streams are a flexible extension point, and it may be useful for each endpoint to communicate to the peer the last processed unidirectional stream id. An HTTP extension may also define a use for server initiated bidirectional streams, and may want the GOAWAY signal for these also.

True if it's an extension then the extension author can also extend GOAWAY to cover these cases or introduce another mechanism, but it would be a shame if many extensions had to cover the same ground.

I suggest we allow GOAWAY to be sent by either endpoint, and that it should contain both the last processed peer initiated bidirectional and unidirectional stream.

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I was compelled by Alan's discussion about this.

It sounds like you are suggesting having two fields in the GOAWAY frame, one for each type.

My thought was to mirror the way MAX_STREAMS works and have independent GOAWAY frames.

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@marten-seemann pushed 2 commits.

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FWIW, a "MUST, unless" is exactly what a SHOULD is

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@larseggert, SHOULD is a lot weaker than "MUST, unless" because SHOULD allows skipping the behavior even if the "unless" part is not performed.

"MUST A, unless B" is a syntactic sugar for "MUST A or B".

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If you don't think it's editorial, I don't think it was okay to merge this sentence without consensus.

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yes, should be fine.

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----==_mimepart_5cb8488673528_16c73fc37d4cd9682594e1-- From nobody Thu Apr 18 03:11:08 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AE471202F2 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 03:11:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KsC0N1IQzLAI for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 03:11:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6818A1202ED for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 03:11:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 03:11:04 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1555582264; bh=c2QuxaVnJhuXskq3DZk+zUg3RTgW97I6wYHEUhmdnsE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=xOl+AVn8qK6QLMxiHE8xkr/duvSZvZwUTljyn6cauuHQIXqlwzn1fyEx4g48MZQn3 kt0NYAbwlt3bDwJlQ/4V10PKf7V46xDQxqSkm6WbTfF8if98LPakzX5nsbwejYqgs9 zoK8EMW/jfPXdkNGJ8wFbp6M/1QQEBZ5wNG9jfPE= From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/2 to HTTP/3 mapping section of http/3 is stale (#2627) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cb84d382e0ad_7a9f3fb7e4acd95c668f3"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 10:11:08 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cb84d382e0ad_7a9f3fb7e4acd95c668f3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm not sure I 100% agree > Example: "Below is a listing of how each HTTP/2 frame type is mapped:" and below. ie: "As described above, the PRIORITY region of HEADERS is not supported. ..." This statement is still correct, although perhaps it is more accurate to say something like: ``` HEADERS (0x1): : The PRIORITY region of HEADERS is not defined in HTTP/3 frames. A separate PRIORITY frame is used in all cases. Padding is not defined in HTTP/3 frames. ``` Likewise, the statement below that appears earlier in the section isn't wrong but doesn't describe that PRIORITY frame can appear as the first frame on a request stream > To achieve in-order delivery of priority changes in HTTP/3, PRIORITY frames are sent on the control stream and exclusive prioritization has been removed. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2627#issuecomment-484438023 ----==_mimepart_5cb84d382e0ad_7a9f3fb7e4acd95c668f3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I'm not sure I 100% agree

Example: "Below is a listing of how each HTTP/2 frame type is mapped:"= and below.
ie: "As described above, the PRIORITY region of HEADERS is not supported.= ..."

This statement is still correct, although perhaps it is more accurate = to say something like:

HEADERS (0x1):
: The PRIORITY region of HEADERS is not defined in HTTP/3 frames. A separ=
ate PRIORITY frame is used in all cases. Padding is not defined in HTTP/3=
 frames.

Likewise, the statement below that appears earlier in the section isn'= t wrong but doesn't describe that PRIORITY frame can appear as the first = frame on a request stream

To achieve in-order delivery of priority changes in HTTP/3,
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has been removed.

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Thanks Lucas, your text makes it clear what was intended.

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Relates to #2627

Focuses on improving accuracy of PRIORITY.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2633

Commit Summary

  • H2 comparison appendix spruce up

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I think this argument makes sense, but this feels increasingly like a = transport feature and not an HTTP feature.

If you add a unidirectional limit, I'd prefer a single frame, unless <= a class=3D"user-mention" data-hovercard-type=3D"user" data-hovercard-url=3D= "/hovercards?user_id=3D6571445" data-octo-click=3D"hovercard-link-click" = data-octo-dimensions=3D"link_type:self" href=3D"https://github.com/LPardu= e">@LPardue has a reason he thinks separate frames are likely to be u= seful in practice.

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I think this argument makes sense, but this feels increasingly like a = transport feature and not an HTTP feature.

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I don't have a strong opinion here. For reference, the original issue = about moving GOAWAY out of transport is #696

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For the separate frames topic:
=0D HTTP/3 currently lacks explanation about how GOAWAY works with MAX_STREAM= S (see #2629). So my suggestion pre-empts that without much th= ought put into the final fix. Therefore it might be wrong. Some weak argu= ments:

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Before sending a GOAWAY, there is no explicit limit set by the server.= The stream ID limit is implicit and real but more importantly, you don't= invoke the requirement a connection SHOULD send an initial GOAWAY = frame with the last Stream ID set to the current value of QUIC=E2=80=99s = MAX_STREAM_ID and SHOULD NOT increase the MAX_STREAM_ID thereafter.. Imagination required on how we fix this language up for MAX_STREAMS.=0D

From Alan's problem statement description, I imagined GOAWAY to operat= e more like a drain state trigger. So having separate frames would allow = the draining of unidirectional traffic and bidirectional traffic independ= ently. E.g. a client declares "I'm intending to leave soon, and I don't w= ant to accept new things from you (pushes) but I want the ability to crea= te new requests, so please continue to give me bidi stream credits".

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On a more practical level, a frame that includes both fields when only= one type wants to be drained will likely end up with a set to max_int. S= o we'd waste bytes to express "don't do anything". Modelling this by maki= ng fields optional adds complexity for little gain.

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Finally, we a separate GOAWAY for unidirectional streams opens the doo= r for it to be an extension frame. However, I think this would be the wro= ng thing to do as it would make managing extensions very difficult.

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The salient comment from #696 for me is "I think that the GOAW= AY frame needs to identify requests, not streams"

Making GOAWAY bidirectional and cover unidirectional and bidirectional= streams seems to run counter to that statement, which is why it was star= ting to feel more transport-y.

But, I don't feel that strongly about this, unless it becomes an imple= mentation hassle of some sort.

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= ----==_mimepart_5cb8850aad8d4_35a63f96f1ccd96421808-- From nobody Thu Apr 18 07:13:46 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76C901200DF for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 07:13:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LfOx_Q47oMvH for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 07:13:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-12.smtp.github.com (out-12.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5B79312014A for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 07:13:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 07:13:42 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1555596822; bh=BY/oGqNSffbbopEBNMwxlnbbvzGrw6GGXrSCx42WPL4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=RhhhfXy7RqflZD3D1EO/DUFO8ZWY7Kuif+DAB5JEMXpNfUz99pcH3fR0D50YWtYFX CXM4+4umlf1QG17A6DtiA7uo4kgwBlKWe1v1i2DksbE9pneeHJoexKKBHF4fTsZQ5O FpN1/3QKV/jNITB75ro1uniQPc3Hg9LpK8bpCDbM= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] H3 GOAWAY should be symmetric and cover bidi and uni streams (#2632) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cb8861684c26_759f3fa052acd960301934"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 14:13:45 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cb8861684c26_759f3fa052acd960301934 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think the use case I'm not sure it compelling is the one where we only want to drain one type of stream, but no the other. My model of GOAWAY is that it's used for graceful shutdown, and I agree that could be useful on either side(moreso for non-HTTP applications, but maybe with WebTransport?). I have a hard time thinking of an application where graceful shutdown requires continued creation of one of the stream types, but they may exist. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2632#issuecomment-484527998 ----==_mimepart_5cb8861684c26_759f3fa052acd960301934 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I think the use case I'm not sure it compelling is the one where we on= ly want to drain one type of stream, but no the other. My model of GOAWA= Y is that it's used for graceful shutdown, and I agree that could be usef= ul on either side(moreso for non-HTTP applications, but maybe with WebTra= nsport?). I have a hard time thinking of an application where graceful s= hutdown requires continued creation of one of the stream types, but they = may exist.

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I have a hard time thinking of an application where graceful shutdown = requires continued creation of one of the stream types, but they may exis= t.

I think this is the pragmatic argument for making a single frame. You = don't want to make it easy for implementations to get into semi-draining = states unintentionally. Sending GOAWAY with a limit of both forces that d= ecision, which is good.

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I had thought the H2 requirement was that after sending you will not accept or generate new streams, but I can't actually find that text in 7540. If we're concerned about being semi-draining, this seems like a restriction I'd want to have as well.

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----==_mimepart_5cb8a567610d7_3dcf3ffc6d6cd96070537d-- From nobody Thu Apr 18 09:30:46 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45C59120365 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 09:30:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.003 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.003 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lcircs2nOyFJ for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 09:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD3841201BB for ; 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[ci skip] From nobody Thu Apr 18 09:32:56 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D485812036D for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 09:32:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.384 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.384 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8YBN4nvQVFy1 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 09:32:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1C92B120365 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 09:32:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 09:32:51 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1555605171; bh=4fDcK7BSe2qkx0cIW+g1wGINCj6sZcC3GiXzNpDPJMc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=NJqQxvkWys3XmRSOl5+Ryfb2b/TVNG63Ge4o9AOxKFytz8CS58LyR9JGpEV1pcKIo +8Np7+kqWTDz10lByYXn87bpRwZaY2YmcFlJdmCsXXTZsX4RC/IMp6hPaMRA+4+VUy gmsES+13nMSm5JsfK/FY8Xxrm6ZQYRdFxqFMRAC0= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/2 to HTTP/3 mapping section of http/3 is stale (#2627) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cb8a6b3c4714_23723f9f018cd9645573b6"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 16:32:55 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cb8a6b3c4714_23723f9f018cd9645573b6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Are there additional changes here, or does #2633 address it? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Are there additional changes here, or does #2633 address it?

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@MikeBishop approved this pull request.

Realistically, I think an implementation ought to have a higher number than three here, but the actual requirement for interop will be three much of the time, so I think this is good guidance. Note that STREAM_BLOCKED doesn't get sent over and over -- if the peer decides not to give you more credit and that means you can't use your extensions, tough luck.

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@m= not, @larseggert, the proposed change here was discussed previously on #2564, but wasn't acted upon= . I read the previous comment as saying she disagrees that there was conse= nsus to merge #2564 without addressing that discussion. That makes thi= s a larger issue than a single PR, and belongs to the chairs.

The proposed change is technically editorial, because it's guid= ance rather than a hard protocol requirement. However, given the contentio= us nature of everything related to the spin bit, I'm inclined to think that= this is worth at least running by the list and tracking with an issue.

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[ci skip] From nobody Thu Apr 18 13:31:00 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 066761203F9 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 13:30:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fMuOKqCjOXEi for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 13:30:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 10766120104 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 13:30:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 13:30:42 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1555619442; bh=FjEOoKaWiunoLszl9Pwi53I8EhivqnwzFFqJJmEYsiA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=eBXtbRuOKjtUfSoz5WAmf5V5dx0cuBhmWBWvCHAyYvN9wbRk0m60EyKRi9stu58ib bR816TBLnji8WxboQFGLykR6m4US+N2iWkK90kWEFD3Kz/BC9tlih9WOXSCna0bFLZ Rpny1S4gCxyoBSNekc/oj69eAlzhEbHIQmohV9SY= From: Dmitri Tikhonov Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] H3 GOAWAY guidance still refers to MAX_STREAM_ID (#2629) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cb8de721855f_31853fb4e9ecd960125f1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: dtikhonov X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 20:30:59 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cb8de721855f_31853fb4e9ecd960125f1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Also, I strongly doubt this case will ever be hit in practice. My back of the envelope math suggests it will take thousands of years at 1 million RPS to send this many (client initiated bidi) streams. We should be consistent. The drafts specify what to do when we run out of numbers in other places. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2629#issuecomment-484679307 ----==_mimepart_5cb8de721855f_31853fb4e9ecd960125f1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Also, I strongly doubt this case will ever be hit in practice. My back= of the envelope math suggests it will take thousands of years at 1 milli= on RPS to send this many (client initiated bidi) streams.

We should be consistent. The drafts specify what to do when we run ou= t of numbers in other places.

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And what happens here is covered by those -- the client cannot send an= y more requests. If we add anything, I think it would simply be text sta= ting that GOAWAY cannot be (and need not be) sent if all client-initiated= bidirectional streams have been used.

And as Lucas noted initially, there's the lingering issue that the QUI= C frame got renamed and HTTP hasn't updated.

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[ci skip] From nobody Thu Apr 18 14:15:50 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD685120046 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 14:15:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qUBZ09P2nHKU for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 14:15:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 43FB51200D7 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 14:15:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 14:15:46 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1555622146; bh=ldVanDuUmCLKZA0fy1PEHsdsdVvBtXlyRt+jX3s9NJA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=j6BVs/OebefsVgIsTkVgd+tXiF9nlkt14AJYJ2B/QoUFdDn2+3wrYJ6pXcu+EHTwm tqhA5DNRKKhgkeNFJshZdpDu/SwtNOuYVo2lepGzeiG0Tn/gmNi05vdL+Ymn91DrPa JkNVDJrzMxrLA8VENUqr0YEOfY29MOZN18vIOdF4= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Fix stale reference and edge case in GOAWAY text (#2634) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cb8e90262a5a_7b8f3f8177ccd96c224526"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 21:15:49 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cb8e90262a5a_7b8f3f8177ccd96c224526 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Makes two minor fixes in the GOAWAY text, both editorial: - Correctly references the MAX_STREAMS frame instead of the MAX_STREAM_ID frame - Notes that servers need not (and cannot) send a GOAWAY if the client has used up all the possible stream IDs; the client simply won't be making any more requests. 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Makes two minor fixes in the GOAWAY text, both editorial:

  • Correctly references the MAX_STREAMS frame instead of the MAX_STREAM_ID frame
  • Notes that servers need not (and cannot) send a GOAWAY if the client has used up all the possible stream IDs; the client simply won't be making any more requests.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2634

Commit Summary

  • Correct name of QUIC frame, fixes #2629
  • No GOAWAY at the limit

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1318,6 +1318,10 @@ connection to become idle, or MAY initiate an immediate closure of the
 connection.  An endpoint that completes a graceful shutdown SHOULD use the
 HTTP_NO_ERROR code when closing the connection.
 
+If a client has consumed all available bidirectional stream IDs with requests,

This is true, but would the HTTP layer know this?

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----==_mimepart_5cb8ebcd7a1b8_60273ff94d4cd96c5450fc-- From nobody Thu Apr 18 14:29:49 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15A7D120120 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 14:29:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id t4vl5WXIYeJ7 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 14:29:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 767A2120046 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 14:29:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 14:29:45 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1555622985; bh=ZOv6VHhE4JF3psb4D8TFgCD4TYNDX7eAiZESa8e2nr0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=lvHBjA+4BdLZ5lyg5rADaiwiKpejLO3bnlUPkB/6ZXwYM9lOndDD4kzB4K8R+0Wvd icXvqilNK34OCs3Q1Q1jAD7qbXa6GfEiuWSNb7VtFTptgvT76/wM6OOeDqDS86PgHF Soy2kDUn7j61CTGu8EYOq84xVZfijBZKelxcHcW0= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] 0-RTT can't use transport parameters or 1-RTT frames (#2461) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cb8ec49a008d_bf83f88c04cd96031161b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 21:29:48 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cb8ec49a008d_bf83f88c04cd96031161b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MikeBishop approved this pull request. Other than thinking our enforcement guidance should be a bit stronger, I think this is okay. It expresses the correct principles. > A client SHOULD instead generate a fresh cryptographic handshake message and start packet numbers from 0. This ensures that new 0-RTT packets will not use the same keys, avoiding any risk of key and nonce reuse; this also prevents 0-RTT packets from previous handshake attempts from being accepted as part of the connection. +A client MUST NOT send 0-RTT packets once it starts processing 1-RTT packets +from the server. This means that 0-RTT packets cannot contain any response to +frames from 1-RTT packets. For instance, a client cannot send an ACK frame in a +0-RTT packet, because that can only acknowledge a 1-RTT packet. An +acknowledgment for a 1-RTT packet MUST be carried in a 1-RTT packet. + +A server MAY treat a violation of remembered limits as a connection error of an ```suggestion A server SHOULD treat a violation of remembered limits as a connection error of an ``` Per previous comment, I believe the outcome from Tokyo was to recommend enforcement. Subsequent discussion has concluded that thorough enforcement might be too heavy-weight, but the specific flow-control approach is simple enough and ought to still be recommended. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2461#pullrequestreview-228515248 ----==_mimepart_5cb8ec49a008d_bf83f88c04cd96031161b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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I think where we've landed is that #2461 contains the principles and this has the recommended server enforcement mechanism. I'd like to see the enforcement in that PR spelled out more explicitly, but I agree that we want the principles there.

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[ci skip] From nobody Thu Apr 18 14:37:25 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C67571203C9 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 14:37:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.003 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.003 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id E7DXyn9WQ7X7 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 14:37:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E80CC1203BB for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 14:37:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 14:37:21 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1555623441; bh=JprqQVhHfoWGae8rE4L1df5XIg/N7+U/3/emc5WP+So=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=vOVJpeftnVyC42rgBbZARJ7YWDOgFPehfMo/cWMoYIMswmIwcH8KdwmLtGoBgCLDH IAnAXhNiRn41EycHWdoLsbp6ZtJwM4QIqWaxcpclcnwwX3eu9i86O3T4MNHCY1fny8 ksEi8XXKMp7fb4XZU7VE+t408FPi8V0xonu/g/+0= From: Mike Bishop To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] f6e826: Define Error when Empty Bits != 0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 21:37:24 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: f6e8265926282d0f9b5c445b487e295625c57b10 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f6e8265926282d0f9b5c445b487e295625c57b10 Author: martinduke Date: 2019-03-05 (Tue, 05 Mar 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- Define Error when Empty Bits != 0 in the PRIORITY frame Commit: 1ba651056a3d82f57c69ab64f0dfd2bab3582eb0 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1ba651056a3d82f57c69ab64f0dfd2bab3582eb0 Author: martinduke Date: 2019-04-18 (Thu, 18 Apr 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- Changed MUST -> MAY To address @MikeBishop's concern. I ask the editors to move this one forward if there are no further problems. Commit: 51af501fd90d3d7ee783aed7a89d20bd74838710 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/51af501fd90d3d7ee783aed7a89d20bd74838710 Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2019-04-18 (Thu, 18 Apr 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- Merge branch 'patch-44' of https://github.com/martinduke/base-drafts into martinduke-patch-44 Commit: f98e8038eff97b9bf6c32381c22626410f3d2d70 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f98e8038eff97b9bf6c32381c22626410f3d2d70 Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2019-04-18 (Thu, 18 Apr 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- Reconcile with MUST-ignore Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/ea23953c608b...f98e8038eff9 From nobody Thu Apr 18 14:37:36 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E5151203BB for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 14:37:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VKXoxEFOseEj for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 14:37:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o11.sgmail.github.com (o11.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1606C1203AA for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 14:37:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=I16ZnDWMc2dqtxUD5Ua5jhQDVno=; b=CikS0E1VFIVUIt05 pPhMiuE6i8gwTqih01gEMKId5ZDslmioolVDz+lx5VbAnHXFLVxPBEms+GpTpc4v jxeQReWkDuPgj9bOVaPrMeb86tNCup8xdBk9Q1KQKmgdSirZMa7szoMyzOMXPXKJ hHiI3ZG83g96Jf8ZQuBq7xgLjMc= Received: by filter0992p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0992p1las1-4382-5CB8EE1B-31 2019-04-18 21:37:31.84681131 +0000 UTC m=+852456.452798782 Received: from github-lowworker-fc273f0.cp1-iad.github.net (unknown [192.30.252.33]) by ismtpd0004p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id 5BdVbIkVT9i8G4mGx4vYgg for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 21:37:31.722 +0000 (UTC) Received: from github.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by github-lowworker-fc273f0.cp1-iad.github.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A51AFC0CA7 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 14:37:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 21:37:32 +0000 (UTC) From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Define Error when Empty Bits != 0 (#2501) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cb8ee1ba2e34_7f623f7f3cccd9686555af"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak32IiNV3X8ir8r5kOUlbMMqAadyBgaeyBNjUT KAYmeOcCc3InYkmhPBUvzYUDtSlJwqqlwSHmbOCU7YPkF1XQLYSWsm4lQVrBazHQurAgFftMWOj2og iHhcZM4p6mbFTEswfCwiF72RUkg+CWNnBGtSPA7bOgG6HHyzDa1+YUUPOSILg5C4Fw4+Gzw0MUjsRC w= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 21:37:34 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cb8ee1ba2e34_7f623f7f3cccd9686555af Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Merged #2501 into master. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Issue and pull request numbers are listed with a leading octothorp. ## Since draft-ietf-quic-recovery-19 + +- Send a PING if the PTO timer fires and there's nothing to send (#2624) +- Set loss delay to at least kGranularity (#2617) +- Merge application limited and sending after idle sections. Always limit + burst size instead of requiring resetting CWND to initial CWND after + idle (#2605) +- Rewrite RTT estimation, allow RTT samples where a newly acked packet is + ack-eliciting, but the largest_acked is not (#2592) ```suggestion ack-eliciting but the largest_acked is not (#2592) ``` > @@ -1500,6 +1500,17 @@ are detected lost. Issue and pull request numbers are listed with a leading octothorp. ## Since draft-ietf-quic-recovery-19 + +- Send a PING if the PTO timer fires and there's nothing to send (#2624) +- Set loss delay to at least kGranularity (#2617) +- Merge application limited and sending after idle sections. Always limit + burst size instead of requiring resetting CWND to initial CWND after + idle (#2605) +- Rewrite RTT estimation, allow RTT samples where a newly acked packet is + ack-eliciting, but the largest_acked is not (#2592) +- No longer arm the handshake timer if there is no handshake data (#2590) ```suggestion - Don't arm the handshake timer if there is no handshake data (#2590) ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2625#pullrequestreview-228518335 ----==_mimepart_5cb8ee6aa6689_7e4f3f88c04cd960378058 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1318,6 +1318,10 @@ connection to become idle, or MAY initiate an immediate closure of the
 connection.  An endpoint that completes a graceful shutdown SHOULD use the
 HTTP_NO_ERROR code when closing the connection.
 
+If a client has consumed all available bidirectional stream IDs with requests,

It has to be tracking the greatest stream ID it has received a request on in order to put that value in a GOAWAY frame. So, yes. Another implementation might be to retrieve this number and then find that it's out-of-bounds, but it amounts to the same thing.

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[ci skip] From nobody Thu Apr 18 14:47:10 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96FBF1203E1 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 14:47:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dB0-VMaITQ71 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 14:47:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-11.smtp.github.com (out-11.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E2E511203CD for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 14:47:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 14:47:06 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1555624026; bh=MSycU6u+hze+xFOUqasryS8JJm85uimZT4RNVa7a84Y=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=FKw12iZ+lQ+PBEUMIMtFCSl0aEkUbF0aCUERxwqpf7ddhSv0Fz/mxIQKi3RIPmmch aaU8ouj8Sp08X0uL9BrcmAEuiGcVh5yFhJM44J6Qpg/eyTO4uWnvOyIaFbLk1NOLcO StIpZm7j8uYZMXp2hjkGukamnIfqwcnRu3yAfEUo= From: martinduke Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] introduce a version alias mechanism (#2573) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cb8f05a29538_6ec93f9bdc8cd96413436e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinduke X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 21:47:09 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cb8f05a29538_6ec93f9bdc8cd96413436e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am not sure why this affects load balancing at all. The CID is part of the invariants, so LBs should be able to read and parse the CID without regard for the other versions. There is a legitimate coordination problem for DDoS boxes, I agree. However, I'm pretty comfortable for this kind of mechanism not working in cloud deployments -- we're just looking for some big players and the browsers to support this. There's basically no benefit for endpoints except preserving extensibility of the protocol. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2573#issuecomment-484700688 ----==_mimepart_5cb8f05a29538_6ec93f9bdc8cd96413436e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I am not sure why this affects load balancing at all. The CID is part = of the invariants, so LBs should be able to read and parse the CID withou= t regard for the other versions.

There is a legitimate coordination problem for DDoS boxes, I agree. Ho= wever, I'm pretty comfortable for this kind of mechanism not working in c= loud deployments -- we're just looking for some big players and the brows= ers to support this. There's basically no benefit for endpoints except pr= eserving extensibility of the protocol.

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Needs some of the extra text others have noted, plus some agreement issues. While we will eventually need to write a full VN specification, it might also be worth mentioning some implications here. While we're not specifying the generation algorithm, let's be pedantic and say that the server MUST NOT advertise as an alias a version number for some other version it actually speaks. As a corollary, if the server advertises as an alias some version number that the client actually supports, the client SHOULD assume the server doesn't support that version. > @@ -3246,7 +3246,21 @@ Implementors are encouraged to register version numbers of QUIC that they are using for private experimentation on the GitHub wiki at \. - +## Version Aliases + +In order to avoid ossification of the version number defined by this draft, +servers announce a list of version numbers that they interpret as an alias for +the version number used in this draft. Alias versions MUST NOT be a reserved +version. Servers SHOULD send at least one version alias, and SHOULD frequently +change the value that they announce. Each version alias contains a lifetime, +which indicates how long the server will accept this version alias. It also +contains an initial salt, which is used instead of the initial salt as defined +in section 5.2 of {{QUIC-TLS}}. The list of version aliases is sent in the +server's Transport Parameters (see {{transport-parameter-definitions}}). + +Clients SHOULD remember the aliases and use it for subsequent connections to the Antecedent agreement. Many possibilities: - ...remember the aliases and use **them** - ...remember the **list of** aliases and use it - ...remember **one of** the aliases and use it > @@ -4115,6 +4130,25 @@ preferred_address (0x000d): ~~~ {: #fig-preferred-address title="Preferred Address format"} +version_aliases (0x000e): + +: A list of version numbers that the server accepts as an alias for the + currently used versions. This transport parameter is only sent by the server. ```suggestion currently used version. This transport parameter is only sent by the server. ``` > @@ -4115,6 +4130,25 @@ preferred_address (0x000d): ~~~ {: #fig-preferred-address title="Preferred Address format"} +version_aliases (0x000e): + +: A list of version numbers that the server accepts as an alias for the ```suggestion : A list of version numbers that the server accepts as aliases for the ``` > @@ -4115,6 +4130,25 @@ preferred_address (0x000d): ~~~ {: #fig-preferred-address title="Preferred Address format"} +version_aliases (0x000e): + +: A list of version numbers that the server accepts as an alias for the + currently used versions. This transport parameter is only sent by the server. + Every version alias contains a lifetime in milliseconds. The alias is only valid + for that lifetime, clients MUST NOT use it after expiry. ```suggestion for that lifetime. Clients MUST NOT use an expired alias. ``` Comma splice. > @@ -3246,7 +3246,21 @@ Implementors are encouraged to register version numbers of QUIC that they are using for private experimentation on the GitHub wiki at \. - +## Version Aliases + +In order to avoid ossification of the version number defined by this draft, +servers announce a list of version numbers that they interpret as an alias for ```suggestion servers announce a list of version numbers that they interpret as aliases for ``` > @@ -3246,7 +3246,21 @@ Implementors are encouraged to register version numbers of QUIC that they are using for private experimentation on the GitHub wiki at \. - +## Version Aliases + +In order to avoid ossification of the version number defined by this draft, +servers announce a list of version numbers that they interpret as an alias for +the version number used in this draft. Alias versions MUST NOT be a reserved +version. 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Needs some of the extra text others have noted, plus some agreement is= sues.

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While we will eventually need to write a full VN specification, it mig= ht also be worth mentioning some implications here. While we're not spec= ifying the generation algorithm, let's be pedantic and say that the serve= r MUST NOT advertise as an alias a version number for some other version = it actually speaks. As a corollary, if the server advertises as an alias= some version number that the client actually supports, the client SHOULD= assume the server doesn't support that version.

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Minor nits. > +potentially force its peer to buffer an unbounded amount of data. + +Implementations MUST support buffering at least 4096 bytes of data received out +of order in CRYPTO frames. Endpoints MAY choose to allow more data to be +buffered during the handshake. A larger limit during the handshake could allow +for larger keys or credentials to be exchanged. An endpoint's buffer size does +not need to remain constant during the life of a connection. + +Being unable to buffer CRYPTO frames during the handshake can lead to a +connection failure. If its buffer is exceeded during the handshake, an endpoint +can temporarily expand its buffer to complete the handshake. If an endpoint +cannot expand its buffer, it MUST close the connection with a +CRYPTO_BUFFER_EXCEEDED error code. + +Once the handshake completes, if an endpoint is unable to buffer all data in a +CRYPTO frame, it MAY discard all subsequent CRYPTO frames, or it MAY close the "subsequent" here could mean further in the CRYPTO stream, or could mean received later in time. If the latter, then the currently-buffered crypto data will never be delivered and can also be discarded; we should say so. In either case, we should be specific about which "subsequent" we mean. > +## Cryptographic Message Buffering + +Implementations need to maintain a buffer of CRYPTO data received out of order. +Because there is no flow control of CRYPTO frames, an endpoint could +potentially force its peer to buffer an unbounded amount of data. + +Implementations MUST support buffering at least 4096 bytes of data received out +of order in CRYPTO frames. Endpoints MAY choose to allow more data to be +buffered during the handshake. A larger limit during the handshake could allow +for larger keys or credentials to be exchanged. An endpoint's buffer size does +not need to remain constant during the life of a connection. + +Being unable to buffer CRYPTO frames during the handshake can lead to a +connection failure. If its buffer is exceeded during the handshake, an endpoint +can temporarily expand its buffer to complete the handshake. If an endpoint +cannot expand its buffer, it MUST close the connection with a "cannot" implies ability, when the endpoint might simply not want to. Perhaps better to say "does not" expand? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2524#pullrequestreview-228541205 ----==_mimepart_5cb90211591a8_41883fac44ccd960129717 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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Minor nits.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +potentially force its peer to buffer an unbounded amount of data.
+
+Implementations MUST support buffering at least 4096 bytes of data received out
+of order in CRYPTO frames. Endpoints MAY choose to allow more data to be
+buffered during the handshake. A larger limit during the handshake could allow
+for larger keys or credentials to be exchanged. An endpoint's buffer size does
+not need to remain constant during the life of a connection.
+
+Being unable to buffer CRYPTO frames during the handshake can lead to a
+connection failure. If its buffer is exceeded during the handshake, an endpoint
+can temporarily expand its buffer to complete the handshake. If an endpoint
+cannot expand its buffer, it MUST close the connection with a
+CRYPTO_BUFFER_EXCEEDED error code.
+
+Once the handshake completes, if an endpoint is unable to buffer all data in a
+CRYPTO frame, it MAY discard all subsequent CRYPTO frames, or it MAY close the

"subsequent" here could mean further in the CRYPTO stream, or could mean received later in time. If the latter, then the currently-buffered crypto data will never be delivered and can also be discarded; we should say so. In either case, we should be specific about which "subsequent" we mean.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +## Cryptographic Message Buffering
+
+Implementations need to maintain a buffer of CRYPTO data received out of order.
+Because there is no flow control of CRYPTO frames, an endpoint could
+potentially force its peer to buffer an unbounded amount of data.
+
+Implementations MUST support buffering at least 4096 bytes of data received out
+of order in CRYPTO frames. Endpoints MAY choose to allow more data to be
+buffered during the handshake. A larger limit during the handshake could allow
+for larger keys or credentials to be exchanged. An endpoint's buffer size does
+not need to remain constant during the life of a connection.
+
+Being unable to buffer CRYPTO frames during the handshake can lead to a
+connection failure. If its buffer is exceeded during the handshake, an endpoint
+can temporarily expand its buffer to complete the handshake. If an endpoint
+cannot expand its buffer, it MUST close the connection with a

"cannot" implies ability, when the endpoint might simply not want to. Perhaps better to say "does not" expand?

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----==_mimepart_5cb90211591a8_41883fac44ccd960129717-- From nobody Thu Apr 18 16:08:38 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ED4C120112 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 16:08:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sJ_vEd7xHXdB for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 16:08:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48DD01200FE for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 16:08:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 16:08:33 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1555628913; bh=w08aSvN/sJbcUuUtH5jlxFRRcdVrKvLMo7bEdvpeJN4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ych8TwcTWx3jaR1PF77x2sV5TExXG/oqK1u7OvLJlgpZ5GMJk58HKO6dBfRgrb01X 4NSnLLKzcvYCBSo90khjlY9x7cAqOr0Uo/UObQLHyeiaPWbpiGVYrmy+XcsS+r02gY pPhj5CP5Gg5aDfngjxTk43OjSbjGptZDO1aCJsNg= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Attacks Against Address Migration (#2582) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cb9037130d67_348d3fc24eecd95c33235f"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 23:08:36 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cb9037130d67_348d3fc24eecd95c33235f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think the attacker's ability to do this argues for ignoring PATH_RESPONSE frames that mismatch rather than actively considering the validation to have failed; we added that text already: > Note that receipt on a different local address does not result in path validation failure, as it might be a result of a forwarded packet (see Section 9.3.3) or misrouting. It is possible that a valid PATH_RESPONSE might be received in the future. This text perhaps needs to be broadened to talk about both source and destination address rather than simply "local address." -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2582#issuecomment-484718471 ----==_mimepart_5cb9037130d67_348d3fc24eecd95c33235f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I think the attacker's ability to do this argues for ignoring PATH_RES= PONSE frames that mismatch rather than actively considering the validatio= n to have failed; we added that text already:

Note that receipt on a different local address does not result in path= validation failure, as it might be a result of a forwarded packet (see S= ection 9.3.3) or misrouting. It is possible that a valid PATH_RESPONSE mi= ght be received in the future.

This text perhaps needs to be broadened to talk about both source and = destination address rather than simply "local address."

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There's a balancing act here. From an architecture standpoint, the re= gistry and reserved versions belong in the invariants, because they're in= herently part of the cross-version properties of QUIC.

However, there's also the political answer, which is that Invariants d= escribes what we want outside observers to focus on about the wire image.= The idea that certain versions aren't "real" is explicitly not= something we want outside observers to pay attention to. Thus, the curr= ent location is a(n exceptionally weak) form of security by obscurity.

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Thanks for the suggestions, @MikeBishop. I applied all of them.

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I updated the text after #2467 got merged. Is there anything else I need to change to move forward with this PR?

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----==_mimepart_5cb970b7b3339_5c683fa3846cd95c7280dd-- From nobody Fri Apr 19 00:01:30 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C42F71202B4 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2019 00:01:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oa8q880u6iVq for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2019 00:01:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0AB161202B3 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2019 00:01:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 00:01:25 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1555657285; bh=3NyBLt8i4xQoFCcYkCldLNhER/MjSD3+OfzsDJ2rUfA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=i8L/mDiJkBv8JbYeWJN33vsG5+mzZ1Y/AY3h4xcn6QXa+GYgaZVQKPyF7Lx6lPCkM eyqTr5jkp1UgB3wOlCAUPIf2HZOWHp56eiHdpMhTiYQQiDsCUp87PUXV8f+OOw6BC1 2NZcW10bTAaCXeJeQDK8QtopJajcAJAXh6LNe0AU= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] introduce a version alias mechanism (#2573) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cb972459d954_60a73ffd862cd96812576eb"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 07:01:29 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cb972459d954_60a73ffd862cd96812576eb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I am not sure why this affects load balancing at all. The CID is part of the invariants, so LBs should be able to read and parse the CID without regard for the other versions. If the pool of servers handling one version is different from another pool, for example in a blue/green deployment. Since client decides ODCID, you have nothing but the version to route on. You could, however, use a retry get a new DCID so traffic will route correctly. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2573#issuecomment-484786362 ----==_mimepart_5cb972459d954_60a73ffd862cd96812576eb Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I am not sure why this affects load balancing at all. The CID is part = of the invariants, so LBs should be able to read and parse the CID withou= t regard for the other versions.

If the pool of servers handling one version is different from another = pool, for example in a blue/green deployment. Since client decides ODCID,= you have nothing but the version to route on. You could, however, use a = retry get a new DCID so traffic will route correctly.

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If the pool of servers handling one version is different from another = pool, for example in a blue/green deployment. Since client decides ODCID,= you have nothing but the version to route on. You could, however, use a = retry to get a new DCID so traffic will route correctly.

We already have text that you shouldn't use the ODCID for routing anyw= ay. This applies especially in a setup like this.

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If you can recognize the ODCID as being a Retry DCID you could.
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If you can recognize the ODCID as being a Retry DCID you could.

If it's a Retry DCID, it's by definition not an ODCID any more (the O means "original").

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Yes, but it is the DCID in the initial packet. A load balancer would not trivially be able to tell the difference between the DCID of two initial packets since there is no RetryInitial packet type.

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----==_mimepart_5cb976388a0dd_2e733fbb39ecd964122583d-- From nobody Fri Apr 19 00:21:40 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6A4D1200E9 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2019 00:21:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.384 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.384 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QAHOGtbI-Zus for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2019 00:21:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 529611200E3 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2019 00:21:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 00:21:36 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1555658496; bh=Ia9orJXLg/fdMDWKq7Q+W7ITjt8cjyJZwI/MtjSTepw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=nbNfCaNthLHuz3YcIPwQ924PlanWeoXOArxfr50ICznDW6/KFuYAFjfOXt1hmSC8g 5x+YCN5NsUax0cc4A5smDpiIyX4CLy3fO2ASMBq23taX04a1twRT5HvwPu0uSOZIGd Xo4ExSmUeKdy/Zm1utk1n6GRixzAoqUS7Y9x/IFw= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] introduce a version alias mechanism (#2573) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cb977001d53e_4a4c3f83dcacd95c884460"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 07:21:39 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cb977001d53e_4a4c3f83dcacd95c884460 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Or rather, there is, since the token length field would be non-zero. But what are we arguing about here? I'm just saying a Retry could be used to route to different version, but only if Retry is able to work across those versions. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2573#issuecomment-484790272 ----==_mimepart_5cb977001d53e_4a4c3f83dcacd95c884460 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Or rather, there is, since the token length field would be non-zero.

But what are we arguing about here? I'm just saying a Retry could be used to route to different version, but only if Retry is able to work across those versions.

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Fixes #2611 * Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Marten's suggestion * Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Don't subtract * Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md * Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md From nobody Fri Apr 19 12:46:46 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C4231200B1 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2019 12:46:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.455 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.455 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7CgNQk8ZdI5w for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2019 12:46:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CFD7412038F for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2019 12:46:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 12:46:34 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1555703194; bh=ryo/tDVqUimG1pwVdbxuUBF/FiqEB2izELqHndG0Pos=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=hwBybsaAGqpFbRQV1wRvOCOeOSO4g9f1zxWvcBwQfZUJokLAkkIr5BnSFSRamqE0J AvpRKBsKWAqnlMyVDeBZtiND4ucnz3PqM66XDx4fEY6IaEDu3LN8ZTXc0h9Phyp7Qw y+mS2yfll7GwMzzgu/EVDfpI1NAV/XovzQEgDQK8= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] lost_pn can no longer be negative (#2621) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cba259a9ea4b_6fea3fdf056cd9681454c8"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 19:46:37 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cba259a9ea4b_6fea3fdf056cd9681454c8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I find this new version ok and it fixes the issue, so let's go with it. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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I find this new version ok and it fixes the issue, so let's go with it.

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Merged #2621 into ianswett-no-crypto-data.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3251,12 +3251,17 @@ using for private experimentation on the GitHub wiki at
 In order to avoid ossification of the version number defined by this draft,
 servers announce a list of version numbers that they interpret as aliases for
 the version number used in this draft. Alias versions MUST NOT be a reserved
-version. Servers SHOULD send at least one version alias, and SHOULD frequently
-change the value that they announce. Each version alias contains a lifetime,
-which indicates how long the server will accept this version alias. It also
-contains an initial salt, which is used instead of the initial salt as defined
-in section 5.2 of {{QUIC-TLS}}. The list of version aliases is sent in the
-server's Transport Parameters (see {{transport-parameter-definitions}}).
+version. A server MUST NOT advertise an alias version number for a version that
+it actually supports. If the server advertises an alias version number that the
+client actually supports, the client MUST assume the server doesn't support
+that version and ignore the alias.

I don't know that the client has to ignore the alias, per se -- it just needs to be cognizant of what the interpretation of that version will be on that server. On the other hand, if there's a possibility that the server might acquire support for that version between flights (server upgrade case), perhaps it's better that the client just avoids it entirely after all.

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[ci skip] From nobody Fri Apr 19 12:51:07 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33BB312001B for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2019 12:51:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GBPRMsw60jh1 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2019 12:51:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BCB7312036E for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2019 12:51:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 12:51:01 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1555703461; bh=ch0yPLfEqkgM1/IsIes33rJ8YbuoeQwMLPDYzczZyNU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=XDUURdLUQsWnQFFWk2/gwLILdheJxKYHe8sTm7JvoebS6+FEO18tA0xBmsGniF/e8 e0GRRsiEg/+zeApto1i7c5GRuElDKkIX79rwAP/H09IH4sChRGjrdEKqxQtu253fQU I3ee8J3P8D8aICN8uHNnv7FxYRqtrPLxVQx/gKs0= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] introduce a version alias mechanism (#2573) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cba26a587a7_1d583fb17b2cd960156526"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 19:51:05 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cba26a587a7_1d583fb17b2cd960156526 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > If the pool of servers handling one version is different from another pool, for example in a blue/green deployment. Since client decides ODCID, you have nothing but the version to route on. You could, however, use a retry to get a new DCID so traffic will route correctly. > > We already have text that you shouldn't use the ODCID for routing anyway. This applies especially in a setup like this. Per #2026, we don't have such text, actually. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2573#issuecomment-484998078 ----==_mimepart_5cba26a587a7_1d583fb17b2cd960156526 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

If the pool of servers handling one version is different from another = pool, for example in a blue/green deployment. Since client decides ODCID,= you have nothing but the version to route on. You could, however, use a = retry to get a new DCID so traffic will route correctly.

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Per #2026, we don't have such text, actually.

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Just a couple of editorial comments, and then I think this is ready. > An endpoint SHOULD ensure that its peer has a sufficient number of available and -unused connection IDs. While each endpoint independently chooses how many -connection IDs to issue, endpoints SHOULD provide and maintain at least eight -connection IDs. The endpoint SHOULD do this by supplying a new connection ID -when a connection ID is retired by its peer or when the endpoint receives a -packet with a previously unused connection ID. However, it MAY limit the -frequency or the total number of connection IDs issued for each connection to -avoid the risk of running out of connection IDs (see {{reset-token}}). +unused connection IDs. Endpoints store received connection IDs for future use. +An endpoint uses a transport parameter to advertise the number of connection IDs +it can store for future use. An endpoint SHOULD NOT provide more connection IDs +than this limit. If an endpoint has provided its peer with the maximum number of ```suggestion than the peer's limit. If an endpoint has provided its peer with the maximum number of ``` > @@ -4195,6 +4192,12 @@ A client MUST NOT include an original connection ID, a stateless reset token, or a preferred address. A server MUST treat receipt of any of these transport parameters as a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR. +max_connection_ids (0x000e): + +: The maximum number of connection IDs that the peer is willing to store. ```suggestion : The maximum number of connection IDs from the peer that an endpoint is willing to store. ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1998#pullrequestreview-228805161 ----==_mimepart_5cba27ba84351_707e3f8a328cd95c260593 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Just a couple of editorial comments, and then I think this is ready.

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I went to fix #2026 and found that the offending text was already removed, so we're most of the way there. I added a note to the Security Considerations about not letting clients dictate your routing decisions. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2635 -- Commit Summary -- * Targeted attacks in Security Considerations -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (8) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2635.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2635.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2635 ----==_mimepart_5cba29bd3e177_1db93fd01aacd96828902e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I went to fix #2026 and found that the offending text was already removed, so we're most of the way there. I added a note to the Security Considerations about not letting clients dictate your routing decisions.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2635

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From -transport section 3.1:

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The sending part of a bidirectional stream initiated by a peer (type 0= for a server, type 1 for a client) enters the =E2=80=9CReady=E2=80=9D st= ate then immediately transitions to the =E2=80=9CSend=E2=80=9D state if t= he receiving part enters the =E2=80=9CRecv=E2=80=9D state (Section 3.2).<= /p>=0D

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The event causing transition Ready->Send is the host initially havi= ng data to send on the stream, which is not the case when the receiving p= art has just been created in its initial Recv state. I think the send str= eam should stay in Ready until it does. This also aligns better with simi= lar text in 3.2.

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I suggest:

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The sending part of a bidirectional stream initiated by a peer (type 0= for a server, type 1 for a client) starts in the =E2=80=9CReady=E2=80=9D= state.

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p.s. see also #2357, but which is more about being explicit = about frames that cause stream creation... rather than this issue, which = is about the state the new sending part starts in.

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Future versions of QUIC that use Version Negotiation packets MUST define a mechanism that is robust against version downgrade attacks. +## Targeted Attacks by Routing + +Deployments should limit the ability of an attacker to target a new connection +to a particular instance. This means that client-controlled fields, such as the ```suggestion to a particular server instance. This means that client-controlled fields, such as the ``` > @@ -5382,6 +5382,14 @@ Negotiation packets do not contain any mechanism to prevent version downgrade attacks. Future versions of QUIC that use Version Negotiation packets MUST define a mechanism that is robust against version downgrade attacks. +## Targeted Attacks by Routing + +Deployments should limit the ability of an attacker to target a new connection +to a particular instance. This means that client-controlled fields, such as the +initial Destination Connection ID used on Initial and 0-RTT packets SHOULD NOT +be used to make routing decisions. Ideally, routing decisions are made ```suggestion be used by themselves to make routing decisions. Ideally, routing decisions are made ``` > @@ -5382,6 +5382,14 @@ Negotiation packets do not contain any mechanism to prevent version downgrade attacks. Future versions of QUIC that use Version Negotiation packets MUST define a mechanism that is robust against version downgrade attacks. +## Targeted Attacks by Routing + +Deployments should limit the ability of an attacker to target a new connection +to a particular instance. This means that client-controlled fields, such as the +initial Destination Connection ID used on Initial and 0-RTT packets SHOULD NOT +be used to make routing decisions. Ideally, routing decisions are made +independently of client-selected values; a Source Connection ID can be selected +to route subsequent packets to the same server. ```suggestion to route later packets to the same server. ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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= @kazuho Yes, I agree with you on the phrase "Should NOT expose likabili= ty".
To address my concern, I suggest to include "This includes that the server = constructs each time a different token when issuing tokens to clients from = the same source address." after line 1560 of #kazuho/base-drafts@9017aae.

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Endpoints MAY choose to allow more data to be +buffered during the handshake. A larger limit during the handshake could allow +for larger keys or credentials to be exchanged. An endpoint's buffer size does +not need to remain constant during the life of a connection. + +Being unable to buffer CRYPTO frames during the handshake can lead to a +connection failure. If its buffer is exceeded during the handshake, an endpoint +can temporarily expand its buffer to complete the handshake. If an endpoint +cannot expand its buffer, it MUST close the connection with a I've changed this to "does not". > +potentially force its peer to buffer an unbounded amount of data. + +Implementations MUST support buffering at least 4096 bytes of data received out +of order in CRYPTO frames. Endpoints MAY choose to allow more data to be +buffered during the handshake. A larger limit during the handshake could allow +for larger keys or credentials to be exchanged. An endpoint's buffer size does +not need to remain constant during the life of a connection. + +Being unable to buffer CRYPTO frames during the handshake can lead to a +connection failure. If its buffer is exceeded during the handshake, an endpoint +can temporarily expand its buffer to complete the handshake. If an endpoint +cannot expand its buffer, it MUST close the connection with a +CRYPTO_BUFFER_EXCEEDED error code. + +Once the handshake completes, if an endpoint is unable to buffer all data in a +CRYPTO frame, it MAY discard all subsequent CRYPTO frames, or it MAY close the I didn't consider it potentially meaning further in the CRYPTO stream (I was thinking later in time). I've clarified that it means later in time. Previously I had added language to state that if CRYPTO frames are being discarded, then the endpoint can tear down all crypto state that it has. I removed that since @martinthomson pointed out that's an obvious thing to do. I'm thinking that discarding any buffered but not processed crypto data falls under tearing down crypto state. If this no longer seems obvious, I'll add back that the endpoint can tear down crypto state and discard any remaining buffered crypto data. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2524#discussion_r277099061 ----==_mimepart_5cba445fb6dfa_16a73ffb42ccd96816189e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@nharper commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +## Cryptographic Message Buffering
+
+Implementations need to maintain a buffer of CRYPTO data received out of order.
+Because there is no flow control of CRYPTO frames, an endpoint could
+potentially force its peer to buffer an unbounded amount of data.
+
+Implementations MUST support buffering at least 4096 bytes of data received out
+of order in CRYPTO frames. Endpoints MAY choose to allow more data to be
+buffered during the handshake. A larger limit during the handshake could allow
+for larger keys or credentials to be exchanged. An endpoint's buffer size does
+not need to remain constant during the life of a connection.
+
+Being unable to buffer CRYPTO frames during the handshake can lead to a
+connection failure. If its buffer is exceeded during the handshake, an endpoint
+can temporarily expand its buffer to complete the handshake. If an endpoint
+cannot expand its buffer, it MUST close the connection with a

I've changed this to "does not".

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +potentially force its peer to buffer an unbounded amount of data.
+
+Implementations MUST support buffering at least 4096 bytes of data received out
+of order in CRYPTO frames. Endpoints MAY choose to allow more data to be
+buffered during the handshake. A larger limit during the handshake could allow
+for larger keys or credentials to be exchanged. An endpoint's buffer size does
+not need to remain constant during the life of a connection.
+
+Being unable to buffer CRYPTO frames during the handshake can lead to a
+connection failure. If its buffer is exceeded during the handshake, an endpoint
+can temporarily expand its buffer to complete the handshake. If an endpoint
+cannot expand its buffer, it MUST close the connection with a
+CRYPTO_BUFFER_EXCEEDED error code.
+
+Once the handshake completes, if an endpoint is unable to buffer all data in a
+CRYPTO frame, it MAY discard all subsequent CRYPTO frames, or it MAY close the

I didn't consider it potentially meaning further in the CRYPTO stream (I was thinking later in time). I've clarified that it means later in time.

Previously I had added language to state that if CRYPTO frames are being discarded, then the endpoint can tear down all crypto state that it has. I removed that since @martinthomson pointed out that's an obvious thing to do. I'm thinking that discarding any buffered but not processed crypto data falls under tearing down crypto state. If this no longer seems obvious, I'll add back that the endpoint can tear down crypto state and discard any remaining buffered crypto data.

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What @mirjak says makes sense. We don't need to document a full algorithm here, but the proposed text works for me.

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@MikeBishop Thanks for pulling up that text! I think you'= re correct in that we need to stop requiring remote address to match as w= ell.

That's essentially removal of this paragraph talking about what a succ= essful validation is:

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This removes the requirement that the remote address match between PATH_CHALLENGE/PATH_RESPONSE. As @martinduke said in #2582: >With PATH_CHALLENGE going out on both paths, these duplicate packets create four outcomes depending on which packets arrive first: both paths appear to be valid, the right path only is valid, the wrong path only is valid, or neither path is valid. The current requirement that the source address of PATH_RESPONSE matches the destination of the PATH_CHALLENGE can cause validation of the correct path to fail. In #2580, there was some thought around performing path validation as a MUST "unless the endpoint has other means validate the validate the new path". This text is a little stronger, saying that you MUST validate unless you have already done so and remembered --some of the mitigations to attacks being described rely on a guarantee that validation occurs (and on both the old and the new paths). If folks wanted to have a completely separate mechanism for validating paths and considered their server/client to "know better", I'm not saying we should prohibit that, but such a mechanism would need to be analyzed in terms of the possible attacks. So far, I *think* this closes out the changes to actual requirements that are necessary, and can be followed with an editorial pass to group the requirements in a way that's less confusing to first time readers (and thanks to @martinduke and others who gave this a close read in Prague!). Closes #2582, #2580, #2579. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2637 -- Commit Summary -- * Stop requiring source address to match on path responses * Merge branch 'master' into validation_source_address -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (19) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2637.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2637.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2637 ----==_mimepart_5cba6dd1a53cd_3f9a3f83108cd96c1866 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

This covers a few issues and attempts to clean up the normative text, = further editorial rearranging is for a future PR, since we need to agree = on some changes to the requirements first.

This removes the requirement that the remote address match between PAT= H_CHALLENGE/PATH_RESPONSE.

As @martinduke said in #2582:

With PATH_CHALLENGE going out on both paths, these duplicate packets c= reate four outcomes depending on which packets arrive first: both paths a= ppear to be valid, the right path only is valid, the wrong path only is v= alid, or neither path is valid. The current requirement that the source a= ddress of PATH_RESPONSE matches the destination of the PATH_CHALLENGE can= cause validation of the correct path to fail.

In #2580, there was some thought around performing path val= idation as a MUST "unless the endpoint has other means validate the valid= ate the new path". This text is a little stronger, saying that you MUST v= alidate unless you have already done so and remembered --some of the miti= gations to attacks being described rely on a guarantee that validation oc= curs (and on both the old and the new paths). If folks wanted to have a c= ompletely separate mechanism for validating paths and considered their se= rver/client to "know better", I'm not saying we should prohibit that, but= such a mechanism would need to be analyzed in terms of the possible atta= cks.

So far, I think this closes out the changes to actual require= ments that are necessary, and can be followed with an editorial pass to g= roup the requirements in a way that's less confusing to first time reader= s (and thanks to @martinduke and others who gave this a clo= se read in Prague!).

Closes #2582, #2580, #2579.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2637

Commit Summary

  • Stop requiring source address to match on path responses
  • Merge branch 'master' into validation_source_address

File Changes

Patch Links:

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----==_mimepart_5cba6dd1a53cd_3f9a3f83108cd96c1866-- From nobody Fri Apr 19 18:13:58 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 007F91200F6 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2019 18:13:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id T2alRJH_GQRl for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2019 18:13:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A6C471200C3 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2019 18:13:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 18:13:54 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1555722834; bh=nAR2vj+/9rSoAIqnML5GWJMeN5GGeKwAlm103F+QSCE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=MLB9dAx84KBxZOnvKjc4okB2MDHSRL4E7Y2QdLhqIF1QkS1XshxR1X0TBwNdGXrRp js92lXtLeWyG4CAKH8u+AFlVHKQL5Ufqjis8v0A/tk1O2c43f9wWLwJDT+YpWwCpd2 jzr26nKkDiQAzxQ6oQsyhtqHy8E76Dfyx8rExOBU= From: erickinnear Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Attacks Against Address Migration (#2582) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cba72527b196_e8f3fb1966cd96435924"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: erickinnear X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2019 01:13:58 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cba72527b196_e8f3fb1966cd96435924 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think the summary in the context of new information to do with these attacks is that an attacker can attack the NAT to effectively "take over" your port. Therefore, using the remote address isn't super useful. So far, we've got some language that says you have to validate both the old and new path on any migration and use the old one if the new path fails to validate. Even if the old path isn't necessarily correct, an off-path attacker should not be able to cause validation of a path to fail -- it can either win the race with the packets and cause it to succeed over a different path, or it can lose that race and it validates on original path. That text is in {{on-path-spoofing}}: ``` To protect the connection from failing due to such a spurious migration, an endpoint MUST revert to using the last validated peer address when validation of a new peer address fails. ``` At the end of the day, the concern with an attacker migrating from off-path to on-path is pretty well covered by the existing text in {{off-path-forward}}: ``` In response to an apparent migration, endpoints MUST validate the previously active path using a PATH_CHALLENGE frame. This induces the sending of new packets on that path. If the path is no longer viable, the validation attempt will time out and fail; if the path is viable, but no longer desired, the validation will succeed, but only results in probing packets being sent on the path. An endpoint that receives a PATH_CHALLENGE on an active path SHOULD send a non-probing packet in response. If the non-probing packet arrives before any copy made by an attacker, this results in the connection being migrated back to the original path. Any subsequent migration to another path restarts this entire process. This defense is imperfect, but this is not considered a serious problem. If the path via the attack is reliably faster than the original path despite multiple attempts to use that original path, it is not possible to distinguish between attack and an improvement in routing. An endpoint could also use heuristics to improve detection of this style of attack. For instance, NAT rebinding is improbable if packets were recently received on the old path, similarly rebinding is rare on IPv6 paths. Endpoints can also look for duplicated packets. Conversely, a change in connection ID is more likely to indicate an intentional migration rather than an attack. ``` In all cases here, either the attacker continues to forward your packets faster than before (they could always view them, so that's not a new privilege for them), or they stop being faster/drop all the packets. As long as we've induced traffic onto the connection such that it will "migrate" back to the correct/working path, then it's not perfect, but we're okay. ====== All that to say, I think the requirements that are currently in the text are pretty much right, even taking into account the additional cases outlined in this issue. The few minor tweaks necessary should be covered by PR #2637. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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I think the summary in the context of new information to do with these= attacks is that an attacker can attack the NAT to effectively "take over= " your port. Therefore, using the remote address isn't super useful.

So far, we've got some language that says you have to validate both th= e old and new path on any migration and use the old one if the new path f= ails to validate. Even if the old path isn't necessarily correct, an off-= path attacker should not be able to cause validation of a path to fail --= it can either win the race with the packets and cause it to succeed over= a different path, or it can lose that race and it validates on original = path.
That text is in {{on-path-spoofing}}:

To protect the connection from failing due to such a spurious =
migration, an
endpoint MUST revert to using the last validated peer address when valida=
tion of
a new peer address fails.

At the end of the day, the concern with an attacker migrating from off= -path to on-path is pretty well covered by the existing text in {{off-pat= h-forward}}:

In response to an apparent migration, endpoints MUST validate =
the previously
active path using a PATH_CHALLENGE frame.  This induces the sending of ne=
w
packets on that path.  If the path is no longer viable, the validation at=
tempt
will time out and fail; if the path is viable, but no longer desired, the=

validation will succeed, but only results in probing packets being sent o=
n the
path.

An endpoint that receives a PATH_CHALLENGE on an active path SHOULD send =
a
non-probing packet in response.  If the non-probing packet arrives before=
 any
copy made by an attacker, this results in the connection being migrated b=
ack to
the original path.  Any subsequent migration to another path restarts thi=
s
entire process.

This defense is imperfect, but this is not considered a serious problem. =
If the
path via the attack is reliably faster than the original path despite mul=
tiple
attempts to use that original path, it is not possible to distinguish bet=
ween
attack and an improvement in routing.

An endpoint could also use heuristics to improve detection of this style =
of
attack.  For instance, NAT rebinding is improbable if packets were recent=
ly
received on the old path, similarly rebinding is rare on IPv6 paths.  End=
points
can also look for duplicated packets.  Conversely, a change in connection=
 ID is
more likely to indicate an intentional migration rather than an attack.

In all cases here, either the attacker continues to forward your packe= ts faster than before (they could always view them, so that's not a new p= rivilege for them), or they stop being faster/drop all the packets.
As long as we've induced traffic onto the connection such that it will "m= igrate" back to the correct/working path, then it's not perfect, but we'r= e okay.

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All that to say, I think the requirements that are currently in the te= xt are pretty much right, even taking into account the additional cases o= utlined in this issue. The few minor tweaks necessary should be covered b= y PR #2637.

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I thought this sentence indicated it was 25ms until a value is receive= d: "The maximum ack delay is communicated in the "max_ack_delay" transpor= t parameter and the default value is 25ms.", but I agree it could be clea= rer, ie: "and the default value and the value prior to receiving the tran= sport parameters is 25ms."?

As a related point, I think it turns out the max_ack_delay doesn't com= e into play until the transport params are available, because "crypto pac= kets SHOULD use a very short ack delay, such as the local timer granulari= ty."
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-recov= ery-19#section-4.1

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It's not used for sending, but we're using it when calculating the RTT.

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Hmm, maybe we should default it to 0 before it's been received then?

Or should we just specify it's 25ms until transport params have been received?

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I'd argue that we should use 0 until receiving TP.

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No need to padd the PADDDING with addditional D's.

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The text about the crypto timer says:

If the crypto retransmission timer expires before the client has 1-RTT keys, it is possible that the client may not have any crypto data to retransmit. However, the client MUST send a new packet, containing only PING or PADDDING frames if necessary, to allow the server to continue sending data. If Handshake keys are available to the client, it MUST send a Handshake packet, and otherwise it MUST send an Initial packet in a UDP datagram of at least 1200 bytes.

PING frames are forbidden in both Initial and Handshake packets.

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----==_mimepart_5cbe990f6ab66_49df3fb8616cd9602906b-- From nobody Mon Apr 22 22:14:43 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 162C51201D3 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2019 22:14:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FzxInF3WkGJB for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2019 22:14:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 34E3F1201B4 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2019 22:14:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2019 22:14:39 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1555996479; bh=Tlqg3GNHuSn8RV/GgmiXJw60WQTbpj6uZuPZFNMW6bE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=jzLshCCduP5MjFlzeKEsvBsFVJPzyRyWSidO1NxjbR+sjfYjJcHTGKmpoq2Tgoxm8 ow/4s2FcAepujVzR8B6HnnzTA2RZps7P4O3tZU2/kXxbcoHtzZNgFGhuUMsZEavbaX CUq9VKbbW7+jVNZiQTJm5sQTCidqhbclWm7JepLA= From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] remove incorrect sentence from DetectLostPackets description (#2641) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cbe9f3f17e00_370c3f8fc30cd96463016"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 05:14:42 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cbe9f3f17e00_370c3f8fc30cd96463016 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The `largest_acked` function parameter was removed from `DetectLostPackets` in #2140. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2641 -- Commit Summary -- * remove incorrect sentence from DetectLostPackets description -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md (4) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2641.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2641.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2641 ----==_mimepart_5cbe9f3f17e00_370c3f8fc30cd96463016 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The largest_acked function parameter was removed from DetectLostPackets in #2140.

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  • remove incorrect sentence from DetectLostPackets description

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Is this still an issue in transport? #2364 is very messy...

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Any objection to just calling this editorial?

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That sounds like an argument to close this issue with no action. @marten-seemann do you feel strongly about this? Anyone else?

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----==_mimepart_5cbeb6cbb524c_24033fe493ccd96034238b-- From nobody Tue Apr 23 00:12:38 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 227C212023E for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2019 00:12:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.455 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.455 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 68tP2ms0TOw3 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2019 00:12:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A6A8A120227 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2019 00:12:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 00:12:32 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1556003552; bh=xLEX3c/gOvzE0X90bEkaGL5liut9DUjQL5cg6QDx85E=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=J6C607NXo68rFl5SspCTOWglzLpwNiTOzwwFkhkFUcfihYN70Uw9KhaELVJNg+1VM M0gtYsFjA+hXg05opfR2QSL6kRC2ISRIBAw0TGAxpGnaEs6w+Bg+7iEBxMq0Ebq+aU nkYCPKYPZTD3hQBuXA3VYKe6FIkrvrDmP3LCWcvE= From: Mark Nottingham Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remember Fewer Transport Parameters for 0-RTT (#2464) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cbebae03ef2a_322c3fd157acd95c310719"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mnot X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 07:12:35 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cbebae03ef2a_322c3fd157acd95c310719 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Editors: please don't close the issue before consensus is declared. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2464#issuecomment-485672426 ----==_mimepart_5cbebae03ef2a_322c3fd157acd95c310719 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Editors: please don't close the issue before consensus is declared.

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@janaiyengar the relevant PR is #1998, correct?

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Merged #2639 into master.

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----==_mimepart_5cbeeab42cb61_16603f9ec3ecd960204786-- From nobody Tue Apr 23 03:38:55 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E22E12040B for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2019 03:38:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.384 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.384 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5EV9pRQ3pneC for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2019 03:38:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F34EE1203C2 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2019 03:38:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 03:38:51 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1556015931; bh=mMTf2b9LqhVV/TJPKm+zcN7wcdL4OKOSyZ/aTp62MuY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Hd+J5GmZPg47xSP5UhvcBIKc3K4Do2wih6qwMfR+2nDYdv4g8c0Xn1PrYcGmF4bCi /C71iQOn2XC+rf9p90EBjm+1j0rwy6SXDN2GVte9Jlqflx8yOMuZVBITO7v5Qblv1U Y6sDsRY+KTkozKJddZKqTYzABJMvVI76skRp9ftI= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Recommend of per-connection ID randomness for spin bit (#2628) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cbeeb3b32e0a_49b43fd17fecd96c20801b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 10:38:53 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cbeeb3b32e0a_49b43fd17fecd96c20801b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This seems more like a question of policy rather than protocol engineering. Is there a specific issue that this addresses? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2628#issuecomment-485750195 ----==_mimepart_5cbeeb3b32e0a_49b43fd17fecd96c20801b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

This seems more like a question of policy rather than protocol engineering. Is there a specific issue that this addresses?

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Closed #2434.

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The smallest change is to only send PADDING without a PING, since the purpose here is to allow the server to send, not for the client to receive an ACK. The PING doesn't really add any value.

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Closed #2640 via b71cf74.

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Fixes #2640

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Reopened #2640.

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I sent out the smallest fix possible. We can also change the transport doc to allow PING in Initial and Handshake. Functionally, I don't think it matters for recovery, but both are reasonable options in my opinion. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2640#issuecomment-485836875 ----==_mimepart_5cbf265bdaeb4_6de33fc3a9ccd95c297475 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Sorry for the churn. I sent out the smallest fix possible. We can also change the transport doc to allow PING in Initial and Handshake. Functionally, I don't think it matters for recovery, but both are reasonable options in my opinion.

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@marten-seemann approved this pull request.

There's this weird edge case where you might run out of cwnd, because PADDING counts towards in-flight but is not ack-eliciting, but it seems safe to ignore that one. If you don't receive and acknowledgment for that many packets right at the beginning of the connection, something is going seriously wrong anyway.

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That would actually resolve itself, because at some point, the client wo= uld send a Handshake packet with data in it, and cause all the outstanding = PADDING packets to be acked. If all the client's packets are lost and the = server is stuck in deadlock, the handshake is doomed anyway.

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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Apr 23 09:54:05 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3306E120257 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2019 09:54:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8Q51PaBwakIP for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2019 09:54:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-9.smtp.github.com (out-9.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8A78E120370 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2019 09:54:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 09:54:01 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1556038441; bh=a1ZBgAfGlMjvUauEx2aOUgUessG6+QufFz/fYL4sA4k=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=IzWX1jtYzCQSHo0NuzHGEf58ALw083X+Zita8Q6K/5BEwGFA91D+5REMHcIZ4k2ex YutvbeOo4VY1ePJT6s2i4RLyk2pECDY4ap8c+2YwwWWopw0C+TPPiP596BQOzD5Mq+ 6j8P6qGYDkndlQCYm/QkSBsCMN++otkCOfOy3lDI= From: Rui Paulo Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Connection migration strategies (#2643) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cbf4329945f2_71e93ffc98acd968200763"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: rpaulo X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 16:54:04 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cbf4329945f2_71e93ffc98acd968200763 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think the applicability draft may benefit from exploring connection migration strategies as described in: - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-paulo-quic-migration-00#section-2 -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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I think the applicability draft may benefit from exploring connection migration strategies as described in:

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Should the recovery draft explain how to gather RTT samples during connection migration using PATH_CHALLENGE and PATH_RESPONSE?

This is explained in:

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----==_mimepart_5cbf439ca6af9_13213f8c4aacd968287549-- From nobody Tue Apr 23 09:56:11 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83F7B120456 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2019 09:56:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.455 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.455 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OUFJdqbM_nu1 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2019 09:56:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7F52512045A for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2019 09:56:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 09:56:04 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1556038564; bh=wvmDxOoFugRlALci32UwIsyVKM3ljQcBM3YyZ3q6mQw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=WFnDDBLItzLaffBeJ790YvV+tkVFj5vRWCZU9pfxgYR6JA86r17u0zj6toOczpUlR H/lRndwGZI1I8AsGySUotWwWsZGc9jajMV/VG58ZWGh8apKpk55quzp3wLkXdJIXbL Zsa2DZD1HUUzGyzLvjOnhJGRuHnNkWG5sxH07Ahk= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Connection migration strategies (#2643) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cbf43a4a13b6_58e83fa75becd9604676c0"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 16:56:10 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cbf43a4a13b6_58e83fa75becd9604676c0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think you want to file this issue here: https://github.com/quicwg/ops-drafts -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2643#issuecomment-485887334 ----==_mimepart_5cbf43a4a13b6_58e83fa75becd9604676c0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I think you want to file this issue here: https://github.com/quicwg/ops-drafts

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Oops, you're right.

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I think the protocol should allow for the originator of a CID to retire it and once that packet has been acknowledged by the peer, remove it from its lookup table.

I have a scenario where I want to move a connection from one "partition" to another "partition" on the same machine. I use some bits from the CID to indicate the partition ID. My problem is, I've already sent out a CID to the peer indicating the old partition ID. If I change, I'm going to get a cross-partition lookup perf-hit for the rest of time on this connection.

So, I'd like to be able to pick a new partition ID, generate a new CID and send out a NEW_CONN_ID and a RETIRE_CONN_ID for the old CID. Once the peer acknowledges this, I remove the old CID from my look up.

With this design, if I need to change partitions for any reason, I only pay a perf penalty for 1 or 2 RTT.

Another option instead of supporting RETIRE for my own, could be a REPLACE_CONN_ID [orignal_sequence_number]. That might be a little less disruptive for implementations to manage. Just copy over the old one with the new one and go about your business.

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----==_mimepart_5cbf7387bf445_5a973fc1b8ecd95c176163-- From nobody Tue Apr 23 13:22:28 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E15F6120369 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2019 13:22:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GQ8xph6v1VyP for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2019 13:22:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 605B0120344 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2019 13:22:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 13:22:22 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1556050942; bh=qTCYzBvfxTWKyUjIdhQM33CNPDvP5XZQRYGtDdE71YI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=jAemA5Ks3mnIowmsPaoHN09I6zku6QAvWbp8U1+bgS47AmlxhKt5MCGCt82nds1ZD q8QNciDTT+dHukvAd4pi4KKrKXu3N1ne/FYXIzKlQqdqP+lni7ZsApRCel4KCl7U8g CngQobrmsTw/VlXoL8kyo+saUBrkf0Hv8in9LA/I= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remember Fewer Transport Parameters for 0-RTT (#2464) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cbf73fe590bd_1ac83faa6b8cd96c146563"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 20:22:26 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cbf73fe590bd_1ac83faa6b8cd96c146563 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For context, the PR was marked editorial but the issue it auto-closed was marked design. Comment from the PR discussion: > Thanks for doing this Martin. I will raise this on the list so that people are clear about this. Technically, there isn't a change here, but it certainly looks like it if you don't understand what is going on. The PR changes the text from "MUST remember everything" to "MUST NOT remember the things that don't make sense to remember and you weren't actually remembering anyway, but MUST remember everything else". That is, there's no functional change to real implementations, but the normative requirements in the text didn't match what was actually possible to implement. Martin's right -- this is really an editorial change, despite touching normative text. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2464#issuecomment-485959725 ----==_mimepart_5cbf73fe590bd_1ac83faa6b8cd96c146563 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

For context, the PR was marked editorial but the issue it auto-closed = was marked design. Comment from the PR discussion:

Thanks for doing this Martin. I will raise this on the list so that pe= ople are clear about this. Technically, there isn't a change here, but it= certainly looks like it if you don't understand what is going on.

The PR changes the text from "MUST remember everything" to "MUST NOT r= emember the things that don't make sense to remember and you weren't actu= ally remembering anyway, but MUST remember everything else". That is, th= ere's no functional change to real implementations, but the normative req= uirements in the text didn't match what was actually possible to implemen= t. Martin's right -- this is really an editorial change, despite touchin= g normative text.

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Would https://mikebishop.github.io/please-retire/draft-bishop-quic-please-retire.html meet your needs, other than the fact that it's an extension rather than core protocol functionality?

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@ianswett approved this pull request.

Thanks, this seems sensible to me.

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@MikeBishop it might but I don't like the idea that it's = a request. If the peer doesn't do this, it is causing two partitions to h= ave cross-partition access for an extended period of time. I don't want t= he peer to have that type of control. With the extension, even if it clai= ms support, what's stopping it from not actually implementing it?

If the act of acknowledging the packet allows me to drop the CID, then= they have a great incentive to do it properly. Otherwise the connection = dies.

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I'd be happy with adding a "If it's acknowledged and a packet with an equal or larger packet number uses the CID, you MAY close the connection."

ie: A receiver MUST honor it, the sender MAY enforce it.

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That would definitely make things better, but only if they actually supported the extension.

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This goes back to a lot of the core concept around vending a CID and h= aving that be a commitment that you're willing for the other side to use = it. If we're going to add a bunch of extra machinery around it, maybe it'= s worth reopening the original conversation?

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And changing your mind is=0D perfectly acceptable.=0D =0D But RESET_STREAM doesn't really cover it. Streams can get blocked,=0D requests can go out with additional flow control credits, and maybe even=0D STOP_SENDING makes sense. So this changes it so that any stream-related=0D frame (those that exist to convey application state or manage it), can=0D be sent in 0-RTT. 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@erickinnear that's why I kind of like the idea of REPLACE_CONN_ID. Just replace the bytes from whatever CID was previously shared.

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -1249,7 +1249,11 @@ quic_transport_parameters extension carries a TransportParameters struct when
 the version of QUIC defined in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}} is used.
 
 The quic_transport_parameters extension is carried in the ClientHello and the
-EncryptedExtensions messages during the handshake.
+EncryptedExtensions messages during the handshake. Endpoints MUST send the
+quic_transport_parameters extension; endpoints that receive ClientHello or
+EncryptedExtensions messages without the quic_transport_parameters extension
+MUST terminate the TLS handshake with a fatal missing_extension alert (an error

Also, that comma should be a semicolon; see #2626.

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----==_mimepart_5cbf8d92527d8_55783ff7688cd9685127a-- From nobody Tue Apr 23 15:13:31 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FE7A120103 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2019 15:13:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xOLoXliyRmsW for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2019 15:13:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o1.sgmail.github.com (o1.sgmail.github.com [192.254.114.176]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3D5261200C4 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2019 15:13:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=s20150108; bh=CDyQYWsibq4y2kzmnUdsZrRkfww=; b=f+QddfOM7UFuEx3i fBFK7zAza6w8+d8ei0OLKEhxT+B7ka8T5l2Hgqr5RZoLwKEheiybr03f1RYEWnHJ KBL3Y+O1IZYs0P9NLpEdSajvCez+WBNktqBiiu2Qt+BbK1ZeJyUFFV6SxXbobq3O C0iS2XqdJpOvKJGY16bwA+X86nI= Received: by filter1138p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter1138p1las1-19831-5CBF8E03-24 2019-04-23 22:13:23.894731269 +0000 UTC m=+97208.426197273 Received: from github-lowworker-63e61ec.cp1-iad.github.net (unknown [192.30.252.36]) by ismtpd0031p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id nmcUMGiiSwCR3wUncHzfWw for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2019 22:13:23.773 +0000 (UTC) Received: from github.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by github-lowworker-63e61ec.cp1-iad.github.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A58672A086E for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2019 15:13:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 22:13:24 +0000 (UTC) From: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] af642f: Transport parameters are mandatory. 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Fixes #2528 Commit: f61cb0294b1d0e4073cc000de79f98909907ca41 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f61cb0294b1d0e4073cc000de79f98909907ca41 Author: EKR Date: 2019-03-27 (Wed, 27 Mar 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Review comments Commit: 54bd1c2da60c6f34d713bcae952268475b6c1071 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/54bd1c2da60c6f34d713bcae952268475b6c1071 Author: EKR Date: 2019-03-27 (Wed, 27 Mar 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- e, not d Commit: da01bfe0e28bf53e20090e44a281f8f8c0338ba0 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/da01bfe0e28bf53e20090e44a281f8f8c0338ba0 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-03-27 (Wed, 27 Mar 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Reflow Commit: 4e2709b212661ef3e5052a2365c52120d7c10ce5 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4e2709b212661ef3e5052a2365c52120d7c10ce5 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-04-24 (Wed, 24 Apr 2019) Changed paths: M README.md M draft-ietf-quic-http.md M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md R draft-ietf-quic-spin-exp.md M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md M tag.sh Log Message: ----------- Merge branch 'master' into tp_mandatory Commit: 9ea2836afb0ed10443ed1b926e3ea73b5f88e599 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9ea2836afb0ed10443ed1b926e3ea73b5f88e599 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-04-24 (Wed, 24 Apr 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Jana's suggestion Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/af642f8ad16d%5E...9ea2836afb0e From nobody Tue Apr 23 15:13:42 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 317A1120103 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2019 15:13:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IxHwCHYSJhlZ for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2019 15:13:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C7AAA1200C4 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2019 15:13:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 15:13:38 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1556057618; bh=Wp0zGB/CGYTGJ2m+z1gVe+WvyVPuIWL+Zr6OFzqA1rs=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=JYmfNDekD0yIMc3TBlHS3J75MQkNbAJ2u6c1gFst0zaw87G1wDnGtTZoxJyzrJ5pd zbbd5RqcQOPCJFZC/Vh4BkQ0LB/dhxD7s+zeW1n1NyIweLtM8mqLhSmCll5LnmCQFi Oi3D9z0jkkC6KfiMMLQ7BiVG9inr0DWvHW4PPKYw= From: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] 974d2a: Set the QUIC bit in Version Negotiation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 22:13:41 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: 974d2a4846a8dcf2be189bc5c490904721b4df90 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/974d2a4846a8dcf2be189bc5c490904721b4df90 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-03-27 (Wed, 27 Mar 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Set the QUIC bit in Version Negotiation This must be ignored, and should be set to 1. 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----==_mimepart_5cbf8e18ed08a_57e13fdeaf2cd96811948d-- From nobody Tue Apr 23 15:14:08 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED3461200C4 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2019 15:14:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id k1x3EljvwvPI for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2019 15:14:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8CE8212002E for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2019 15:14:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 15:14:04 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1556057644; bh=eqw1fC6wtaCROqRtYJk7Nk+1uWs7Usc06z0m71an/dQ=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=S0kIxsWnNQXbvYp6wDxWk+oDbALBBiBd5OvBrbgk1enkpCFGu+TRgyDopHF3bpgGc ukstLmGWmS22mgPqsFh3mjrHahf6uTfWT2T2x7x3HJa9C+Jdmnif32egBhmyk1zo6T BRi2wo8tKY3PPZxrtDUT6asha/A5Rt0mDUU+n/hE= From: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] 166dc5: Remove exception for Initial padding Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 22:14:08 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: 166dc584366abb1cae7da1598531df970f4e729b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/166dc584366abb1cae7da1598531df970f4e729b Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-03-15 (Fri, 15 Mar 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Remove exception for Initial padding Builds on #2520. 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Commit: ae5a234928b994d6f3c63bd0a4a2acc1f26a5c3e https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ae5a234928b994d6f3c63bd0a4a2acc1f26a5c3e Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-04-10 (Wed, 10 Apr 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge branch 'master' into remove-padding-optimization Commit: 2b82b9eaeb7e9d6678957c20f8a36775d9a53342 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2b82b9eaeb7e9d6678957c20f8a36775d9a53342 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-04-24 (Wed, 24 Apr 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #2523 from quicwg/remove-padding-optimization Remove exception for Initial padding Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/a9e0b164d621...2b82b9eaeb7e From nobody Tue Apr 23 15:14:15 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B476120275 for ; 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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak2f7U8EyuIOzR2cxv+9ginVjwEV+9HQezcC3u sbzO3cOs/KLN38+KZAWGggTNNkJxZuvHUTPVSR87TNNMxRWYRHvJkiyiScxUXh8grxl0GEhHW8lKq8 4VB7RNWPnpK0hBoV5pcXfGYgvhwCxYWdSqiL/tj4xMNsc85ARWqK8qd1qZ+i3Dekn4jWK7E9oXeXFz M= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 22:16:11 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: 441465c2a30febcfe8bced144315eec37ce868dd https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/441465c2a30febcfe8bced144315eec37ce868dd Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-04-01 (Mon, 01 Apr 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Allow use of long header for stateless reset Commit: 0bfe4c5c503295e7b008741032cc95e5c3e6acb4 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0bfe4c5c503295e7b008741032cc95e5c3e6acb4 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-04-01 (Mon, 01 Apr 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Move the mandatory check to the detecting section Commit: 6c0f157c2bc99d20be5ae7b31db96d673a7bbc68 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6c0f157c2bc99d20be5ae7b31db96d673a7bbc68 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-04-01 (Mon, 01 Apr 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Use normative language about CID reuse Commit: 43a7b94d19cbe28bb02c67cbb5cfb35f73cfa1f2 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/43a7b94d19cbe28bb02c67cbb5cfb35f73cfa1f2 Author: MikkelFJ Date: 2019-04-01 (Mon, 01 Apr 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- a an Co-Authored-By: martinthomson Commit: 4367e0f6213cd877d9b165d7cfb057b9367438a8 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4367e0f6213cd877d9b165d7cfb057b9367438a8 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-04-01 (Mon, 01 Apr 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Mention retired connection IDs too Commit: 9b60422d7f1bcfe6e55b9bedf3610cd97a9d70c4 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9b60422d7f1bcfe6e55b9bedf3610cd97a9d70c4 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-04-10 (Wed, 10 Apr 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Review comments Commit: 9d83262ed55aa5b2f62d8a6af05529b1f5b63541 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9d83262ed55aa5b2f62d8a6af05529b1f5b63541 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-04-10 (Wed, 10 Apr 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Mandate the use of short header for stateless reset Closes #2599. Commit: 8160b284fe668d00d0a2227a937a3e458752b8b2 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8160b284fe668d00d0a2227a937a3e458752b8b2 Author: ianswett Date: 2019-04-11 (Thu, 11 Apr 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- as effective, not necessarily more Co-Authored-By: martinthomson Commit: fe55aba243cdbff5ab5b84ff702881477436df75 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/fe55aba243cdbff5ab5b84ff702881477436df75 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-04-24 (Wed, 24 Apr 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #2600 from quicwg/sr-short Mandate the use of short header for stateless reset Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/6ab82ec49781...fe55aba243cd From nobody Tue Apr 23 15:16:21 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15AA612002E for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2019 15:16:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zk0UPYcH6iC3 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2019 15:16:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o5.sgmail.github.com (o5.sgmail.github.com [192.254.113.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A9BB3120196 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2019 15:16:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=dqrt5JxFynNcLg47yEDLcJV5iVw=; b=hs6KTUwcVKz8iJMx BehP42QMmv4uZjTu/2dm8girysLVzHaGQd+YBFTFtJR+9ZRpBKAjT++rTtAGUzLq /7kBezJ3HuOs+zuxMIsN/XBS+IfKDSSTX8T0ueCIRXDr2ClnFO6Xr3ZmJL7of6x/ Ci8ElN4WPwYOAwchoeRV67czfrY= Received: by filter1059p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter1059p1las1-29652-5CBF8EAC-18 2019-04-23 22:16:12.873190389 +0000 UTC m=+97508.887863359 Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) by ismtpd0050p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id zE_HJxQZQm2atElTTM4vJQ for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2019 22:16:12.827 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 22:16:12 +0000 (UTC) From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Mandate the use of short header for stateless reset (#2600) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cbf8eac78265_62583f84160cd96812525d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak0nEj6ZP5mnbAkGLpGmwoaI8WaT9yl6lcQyod 4A0bX+/OuCI+VveMUkW0hNwo82NzxgeyZqAIcuOb4eWE4zaYQe00+AQJcG4JAi/2PEcLKN9Hi6ERE5 HIdWDZUu3VSXloDx2x73xMeMyv6jcDLd2Fb2wivEt+enqXaBqdWa2y7CL3VqVyAnJmeSpIHBOcAa9i A= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 22:16:15 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cbf8eac78265_62583f84160cd96812525d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Merged #2600 into master. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's probably worth acknowledging the edge case and just saying that this protocol doesn't do anything about that. Note that the case we're concerned about should involve the server sending tons of data, which gives it plenty of opportunity to provide the client with an ACK that will unstick it. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2642#issuecomment-486006705 ----==_mimepart_5cbf9b424b5e4_100f3fd8d84cd95c7623f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

It's probably worth acknowledging the edge case and just saying that t= his protocol doesn't do anything about that. Note that the case we're co= ncerned about should involve the server sending tons of data, which gives= it plenty of opportunity to provide the client with an ACK that will uns= tick it.

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Fixes #2638.

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Commit Summary

  • use max_ack_delay = 0 before receving the TPs

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I think this is fine, but for it to make sense, max_ack_delay should also default to 0 in the transport doc.

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----==_mimepart_5cbfcdc5eff65_2ca3f85b76cd9601823f1-- From nobody Tue Apr 23 20:01:41 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC571203C3 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2019 20:01:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Wr_BkUjdQ3jx for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2019 20:01:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B324D120319 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2019 20:01:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 20:01:36 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1556074896; bh=2CXBeYnRr+A8bP6sHgugwWPFxtMBggYah8/ekyOA1J0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ueKyVpiKqutsQGVE+Fmytxcqe6Rr4ABYCk/6+y4vy8vnvOS4ppHei2/+XFpovpWMn zcySL02YBK0FAOMklo5R+lU0ciI9yWP5cb58QdUYvrIqXLzEhFBAxkKIre38DDfXrX RtPtO0bdFupM/OLf4iJDycEkkrBeUoMR/Imp+JV0= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] H3 GOAWAY should be symmetric and cover bidi and uni streams (#2632) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cbfd1909b69b_202c3f80824cd96011945c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 03:01:40 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cbfd1909b69b_202c3f80824cd96011945c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't think that we need to make special accommodations for possible future extensions, where the requirements for graceful shutdown are unpredictable. > I have a hard time thinking of an application where graceful shutdown requires continued creation of one of the stream types, but they may exist. Strange. There's an example in h3. In order to answer a request, a server might create multiple push streams after the point that shutdown is initiated. The model for GOAWAY in h3 is based on the realization that the primary purpose of HTTP is to provide answers to requests. Stop the requests and you eventually run out of work. For the client, no signaling is required. For the server, it just has to have a way to block incoming requests. To Ian's point about identifying requests, I believe that it does (if the text doesn't support that, that's just a bug). Extensions can change anything. But we can't really say what the graceful shutdown model would be without understanding the extension. Assuming that once shutdown is initiated there will no longer be any need for new streams is not safe. I can easily think of cases where new streams are needed to fulfill existing commitments. Any protocol that treats streams as messages with an 1:N or N:M relationship between the message that initiates a transaction and the messages required to complete that transaction is open to this. Take a SQL or similar exchange where a transaction is opened, some queries and updates performed, and the transaction is committed or rolled back. A graceful shutdown might trigger rollback or it needs to allow for existing transactions to complete. If you want to allow transactions to complete, then you might have multiple streams created after the shutdown order is issued. And the SQL case is still simple, because it is still fundamentally transactional. If the protocol is truly bidirectional, with either peer initiating activity that might take time, then you need a more sophisticated shutdown process. The quanta used to measure what is accepted or rejected during shutdown might not be a discrete linear sequence as it is for simple transactional protocols; it could be multi-dimensional. Indeed, the reason for this issue is the possibility that h3 with extensions could end up being multi-dimensional. The stuff people are doing with bidirectional transport use could end up like that, especially where it is intended to be multiplexed with h3. Expecting things to line up around streams is probably reasonable, but when streams are used for multiple purposes, things get messy. You need to be identifying the unit. We get to use streams for GOAWAY because client-initiated bidirectional streams are exclusively used for requests, but we use stream identifiers only as means of identifying requests there (again, if the text implies otherwise, we need to fix that). So my view is that GOAWAY is good enough for shutdown of requests. But that is all we can realistically provide for at this layer. If an extension needs to be shutdown gracefully, then the extension that adds that thing will need to provide signaling in support of that shutdown. Practically, that means multiple frames involved in shutdown, but that's not terrible, just wait for all shutdown-y things to complete shutdown before tearing down the connection. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2632#issuecomment-486048895 ----==_mimepart_5cbfd1909b69b_202c3f80824cd96011945c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I don't think that we need to make special accommodations for possible= future extensions, where the requirements for graceful shutdown are unpr= edictable.

I have a hard time thinking of an application where graceful shutdown = requires continued creation of one of the stream types, but they may exis= t.

Strange. There's an example in h3. In order to answer a request, a s= erver might create multiple push streams after the point that shutdown is= initiated.

The model for GOAWAY in h3 is based on the realization that the primar= y purpose of HTTP is to provide answers to requests. Stop the requests a= nd you eventually run out of work. For the client, no signaling is requi= red. For the server, it just has to have a way to block incoming request= s. To Ian's point about identifying requests, I believe that it does (if= the text doesn't support that, that's just a bug).

Extensions can change anything. But we can't really say what the grac= eful shutdown model would be without understanding the extension. Assumi= ng that once shutdown is initiated there will no longer be any need for n= ew streams is not safe.

I can easily think of cases where new streams are needed to fulfill ex= isting commitments. Any protocol that treats streams as messages with an= 1:N or N:M relationship between the message that initiates a transaction= and the messages required to complete that transaction is open to this.<= /p>

Take a SQL or similar exchange where a transaction is opened, some que= ries and updates performed, and the transaction is committed or rolled ba= ck. A graceful shutdown might trigger rollback or it needs to allow for = existing transactions to complete. If you want to allow transactions to = complete, then you might have multiple streams created after the shutdown= order is issued.

And the SQL case is still simple, because it is still fundamentally tr= ansactional. If the protocol is truly bidirectional, with either peer in= itiating activity that might take time, then you need a more sophisticate= d shutdown process. The quanta used to measure what is accepted or rejec= ted during shutdown might not be a discrete linear sequence as it is for = simple transactional protocols; it could be multi-dimensional. Indeed, t= he reason for this issue is the possibility that h3 with extensions could= end up being multi-dimensional. The stuff people are doing with bidirec= tional transport use could end up like that, especially where it is inten= ded to be multiplexed with h3.

Expecting things to line up around streams is probably reasonable, but= when streams are used for multiple purposes, things get messy. You need= to be identifying the unit. We get to use streams for GOAWAY because cl= ient-initiated bidirectional streams are exclusively used for requests, b= ut we use stream identifiers only as means of identifying requests there = (again, if the text implies otherwise, we need to fix that).

So my view is that GOAWAY is good enough for shutdown of requests. Bu= t that is all we can realistically provide for at this layer. If an exte= nsion needs to be shutdown gracefully, then the extension that adds that = thing will need to provide signaling in support of that shutdown. Practi= cally, that means multiple frames involved in shutdown, but that's not te= rrible, just wait for all shutdown-y things to complete shutdown before t= earing down the connection.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1028,9 +1029,9 @@ min_rtt:
 
 max_ack_delay:
 : The maximum amount of time by which the receiver intends to delay
-  acknowledgments, in milliseconds.  The actual ack_delay in a
-  received ACK frame may be larger due to late timers, reordering,
-  or lost ACKs.
+  acknowledgments. The value is initialized to 0, and updated when the peer's
+  transport parameters are received. The actual ACK Delay in a received ACK
+  frame may be larger due to late timers, reordering, or lost ACKs.

How about clarifying tha the value is zero for "crypto packets".

Some reasons:

  • endpoints are expected to send ACKs immediately for crypto packets, even after TP.max_ack_delay is known.
  • Retransmissions of 0-RTT packets should respect max_ack_delay obtained in the previous connection.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1076,8 +1076,11 @@ Pseudocode for OnAckReceived and UpdateRtt follow:
 
 ~~~
 OnAckReceived(ack, pn_space):
-  largest_acked_packet[pn_space] =
-      max(largest_acked_packet[pn_space], ack.largest_acked)
+  if (largest_acked_packet[pn_space] == infinite):

Would NaN be better?

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1076,8 +1076,11 @@ Pseudocode for OnAckReceived and UpdateRtt follow:
 
 ~~~
 OnAckReceived(ack, pn_space):
-  largest_acked_packet[pn_space] =
-      max(largest_acked_packet[pn_space], ack.largest_acked)
+  if (largest_acked_packet[pn_space] == infinite):

Probably yes. I'll make a PR for that.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1076,8 +1076,11 @@ Pseudocode for OnAckReceived and UpdateRtt follow:
 
 ~~~
 OnAckReceived(ack, pn_space):
-  largest_acked_packet[pn_space] =
-      max(largest_acked_packet[pn_space], ack.largest_acked)
+  if (largest_acked_packet[pn_space] == infinite):

I don't know what happened, but somehow this was merged, yet I don't see the relevant changes in the text. Did another change inadvertently revert this?

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This is definitely the right sentiment, but I have a few editorial suggestions. > A token SHOULD be constructed for the server to easily distinguish it from tokens that are sent in Retry packets as they are carried in the same field. +The token SHOULD NOT expose linkability; i.e., information that lets observers This is worth making a new paragraph for. How about: "The token MUST NOT include information that would allow it to be linked to the connection on which it was issued by an on-path observer. For example, it cannot include the connection ID or addressing information unless the values are encrypted." > A token SHOULD be constructed for the server to easily distinguish it from tokens that are sent in Retry packets as they are carried in the same field. +The token SHOULD NOT expose linkability; i.e., information that lets observers +correlate the connection that is using the token and the one that issued the +token. + +Unlike the token that is created for a Retry packet, there might be some time +between when the token is created and when the token is subsequently used. +Thus, a token SHOULD have an expiration time, which could be either an explicit +expiration time or an issued timestamp that can be used to dynamically calculate +the expiration time. A server can retain the expiration time in the server-side ```suggestion the expiration time. A server can store the expiration time or include it in an encrypted form in the token. ``` > A token SHOULD be constructed for the server to easily distinguish it from tokens that are sent in Retry packets as they are carried in the same field. +The token SHOULD NOT expose linkability; i.e., information that lets observers +correlate the connection that is using the token and the one that issued the +token. + +Unlike the token that is created for a Retry packet, there might be some time +between when the token is created and when the token is subsequently used. +Thus, a token SHOULD have an expiration time, which could be either an explicit +expiration time or an issued timestamp that can be used to dynamically calculate +the expiration time. A server can retain the expiration time in the server-side +store, or embed the encrypted value in the token. It is unlikely that the +client port number is the same on two different connections; validating the port +is therefore unlikely to be successful. This sentence doesn't really flow from the previous any more. This can probably be made into a new paragraph. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2647#pullrequestreview-229883171 ----==_mimepart_5cbfd59736a76_605c3fde258cd9603064fd Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Let's do this right and set the value to 0 initially in the transport doc. The "crypto packet" hack is cute, but it's another special case, where this doesn't need a special case, just an initial value.

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----==_mimepart_5cbfd69f1f258_15a53fdd3c2cd9644840a2-- From nobody Tue Apr 23 20:23:22 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0325120046 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2019 20:23:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.455 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.455 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CY38bm-L4V1z for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2019 20:23:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48BE2120143 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2019 20:23:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 20:23:11 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1556076191; bh=Uo04BljYaUab+gH8WzmD/zvA0sEy6xZ/vEcq8TLY10M=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=cJ4utrjIdLUn1w4beICvan8lonFdole6fxotLVXP+SJsQ3LrHu4U/K3n3ADkdfyxe pjVuw+08F4wefAgfi3MEjMYsYyZYxjcyifxR8/j1bS3r9xr1iU4RafeFiFSC+fob/3 3zts/YUZDrTW7tuTU1xMlmOKu4ajMovgdieM+Ne0= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] spin bit intro: information can't be used "for" techniques (#2531) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cbfd69f25741_2a83f85b76cd96037436c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 03:23:14 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cbfd69f25741_2a83f85b76cd96037436c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yep. OBE. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2531#issuecomment-486052382 ----==_mimepart_5cbfd69f25741_2a83f85b76cd96037436c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Yep. OBE.

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I think this PR is orthogonal to the question what the default value f= or this TP is. We use default values to allow peers to skip sending certa= in transport parameters.
This PR is about initializing the max_ack_delay variable in the recovery = code before we even received the TPs.

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Yeah, we gotta go full design here. This is a major change to the pat= h validation logic.

There's a good case here for the change: path validation is currently = unnecessarily symmetric. The decision to consider a path valid is a decis= ion each peer makes unilaterally. That is, for the path to be used, both= peers need to independently validate that packets sent on that path reac= h the other side. We don't need the PATH_RESPONSE to follow the path bec= ause we expect the peer to also send a PATH_CHALLENGE down that path.

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The requirement that PATH_RESPONSE follow the path is a case of trying= to attain or enforce behaviour from a peer unnecessarily. An endpoint d= oesn't need to be assured that its peer has also validated the path, but = that is what the existing text attempts to assure. If a peer decides not= to validate a path, then that is on them.

The fix here prevents an attacker from using the fact that duplicate p= ackets are dropped to prevent path validation. And I can't see a down si= de.

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@martinthomson approved this pull request.

I don't care much for this idea, but if that is the working group consensus, this is a fine way to do it.

I will float an idea that might help reduce one potential source of confusion: rename this to active_connection_ids. The max_* transport parameters all have a similar credit-based design, where this is a count of the number of concurrently active of the identified resource.

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----==_mimepart_5cbfda55cf0f8_777b3fa7402cd964347235-- From nobody Tue Apr 23 20:43:03 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFCFA1202B0 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2019 20:43:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ehQJb_6PKC-6 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2019 20:43:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6F83A1201A6 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2019 20:43:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 20:42:59 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1556077379; bh=ss+r5XssIPZVmNTvREIpjSPtxzvfXot2t8PCA5SEIRo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ypGc4oeJ/ICQro9XC2nD/F3fPI5mTOYfP38QsT9KlikUoKevjlK5SFrGDClVyxexP T8gdv/UwEqGXbPNlar+ftRQ0VJwuoLzCxgYZqokWkGAkFFCwDXJ+poPJNudxqxLlj+ ziWUFljFtjWgSMwdeacqs4F/Feq+wyq0muIJbo2Q= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Stop requiring remote address to match during path validation (#2637) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cbfdb437fc02_60163fde258cd960596698"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 03:43:03 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cbfdb437fc02_60163fde258cd960596698 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson requested changes on this pull request. > @@ -1762,9 +1756,9 @@ initiated while a path validation on the old path is in progress. # Connection Migration {#migration} The use of a connection ID allows connections to survive changes to endpoint -addresses (that is, IP address and/or port), such as those caused by an endpoint -migrating to a new network. This section describes the process by which an -endpoint migrates to a new address. +addresses (the two-tuple of IP address and port), such as those caused by an ```suggestion addresses (IP address and port), such as those caused by an ``` For some, this is a three-tuple, if you include the address family. > @@ -1714,12 +1714,6 @@ meets the following criteria: acknowledgment for a packet containing a PATH_CHALLENGE frame is not adequate validation, since the acknowledgment can be spoofed by a malicious peer. -- It was sent from the same remote address to which the corresponding - PATH_CHALLENGE was sent. If a PATH_RESPONSE frame is received from a different - remote address than the one to which the PATH_CHALLENGE was sent, path - validation is considered to have failed, even if the data matches that sent in - the PATH_CHALLENGE. - - It was received on the same local address from which the corresponding PATH_CHALLENGE was sent. I think that we can remove this requirement also. For the recipient, there is no requirement to have the packet that carries a PATH_RESPONSE travel on any particular path. What you need to have here is a much clearer split in the requirements: the responder MUST send a PATH_RESPONSE on the same path that it got the PATH_CHALLENGE on, but the initiator MUST accept a PATH_CHALLENGE that arrives on any path. I think that you need a paragraph explaining that split and why it exists. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2637#pullrequestreview-229887152 ----==_mimepart_5cbfdb437fc02_60163fde258cd960596698 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@martinthomson requested changes on this pull request.

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I think that we can remove this requirement also. For the recipient, = there is no requirement to have the packet that carries a PATH_RESPONSE t= ravel on any particular path.

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Let's do this right and set the value to 0 initially in the transport = doc. The "crypto packet" hack is cute, but it's another special case, whe= re this doesn't need a special case, just an initial value.

I think that using max-ack-delay 0 for crypto packets (to be precise, = Initial and Hanshake packets) is not a hack. It's preferable.

The problem of respecting TP.max_ack_delay for Initial and Handshake p= ackets, once receiving TP from the peer, is that loss recovery would kick= in TP.max_ack_delay seconds later than they can (note: peer= is required to send ACK ASAP).

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1076,8 +1076,11 @@ Pseudocode for OnAckReceived and UpdateRtt follow:
 
 ~~~
 OnAckReceived(ack, pn_space):
-  largest_acked_packet[pn_space] =
-      max(largest_acked_packet[pn_space], ack.largest_acked)
+  if (largest_acked_packet[pn_space] == infinite):

Would NaN be better?

I don't think so since NaN != NaN

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1076,8 +1076,11 @@ Pseudocode for OnAckReceived and UpdateRtt follow:
 
 ~~~
 OnAckReceived(ack, pn_space):
-  largest_acked_packet[pn_space] =
-      max(largest_acked_packet[pn_space], ack.largest_acked)
+  if (largest_acked_packet[pn_space] == infinite):

Oh why we didn't we just reserve 0 for uninitialized ...

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  A token SHOULD be constructed for the server to easily distinguish it from
 tokens that are sent in Retry packets as they are carried in the same field.
+The token SHOULD NOT expose linkability; i.e., information that lets observers
+correlate the connection that is using the token and the one that issued the
+token.
+
+Unlike the token that is created for a Retry packet, there might be some time
+between when the token is created and when the token is subsequently used.
+Thus, a token SHOULD have an expiration time, which could be either an explicit
+expiration time or an issued timestamp that can be used to dynamically calculate
+the expiration time.  A server can retain the expiration time in the server-side
+store, or embed the encrypted value in the token.  It is unlikely that the
+client port number is the same on two different connections; validating the port
+is therefore unlikely to be successful.

The client port can easily be the same on two different connections in a server p2p configuration, or just in a reverse proxy connection.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1028,9 +1029,9 @@ min_rtt:
 
 max_ack_delay:
 : The maximum amount of time by which the receiver intends to delay
-  acknowledgments, in milliseconds.  The actual ack_delay in a
-  received ACK frame may be larger due to late timers, reordering,
-  or lost ACKs.
+  acknowledgments. The value is initialized to 0, and updated when the peer's
+  transport parameters are received. The actual ACK Delay in a received ACK
+  frame may be larger due to late timers, reordering, or lost ACKs.

I think this text needs to clarify that the value is updated to the default 25ms if TPs are received with the max_ack_delay setting.

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Is there any reason not to just say that this only applies to Initial and Handshake packets?

I think that just saying that is fine.

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I agree. I'll update my PR.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1076,8 +1076,11 @@ Pseudocode for OnAckReceived and UpdateRtt follow:
 
 ~~~
 OnAckReceived(ack, pn_space):
-  largest_acked_packet[pn_space] =
-      max(largest_acked_packet[pn_space], ack.largest_acked)
+  if (largest_acked_packet[pn_space] == infinite):

I don't think so since NaN != NaN

largest_acked_packet[pn_space] is NaN (or something similar) would do the trick.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  A token SHOULD be constructed for the server to easily distinguish it from
 tokens that are sent in Retry packets as they are carried in the same field.
+The token SHOULD NOT expose linkability; i.e., information that lets observers
+correlate the connection that is using the token and the one that issued the
+token.
+
+Unlike the token that is created for a Retry packet, there might be some time
+between when the token is created and when the token is subsequently used.
+Thus, a token SHOULD have an expiration time, which could be either an explicit
+expiration time or an issued timestamp that can be used to dynamically calculate
+the expiration time.  A server can retain the expiration time in the server-side
+store, or embed the encrypted value in the token.  It is unlikely that the
+client port number is the same on two different connections; validating the port
+is therefore unlikely to be successful.

Yes, but the point is that you can't generally rely on it being the same between two connections. I'm sure that those in those special circumstances will know to ignore this.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1076,8 +1076,11 @@ Pseudocode for OnAckReceived and UpdateRtt follow:
 
 ~~~
 OnAckReceived(ack, pn_space):
-  largest_acked_packet[pn_space] =
-      max(largest_acked_packet[pn_space], ack.largest_acked)
+  if (largest_acked_packet[pn_space] == infinite):

is_uninitialized(largest_acked_packet[pn_space])

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----==_mimepart_5cc00685493fe_2ccc3f8afa8cd95c113013-- From nobody Wed Apr 24 00:01:15 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E16651201D3 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 00:01:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ew2onAUH4--Z for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 00:01:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B0B31201EB for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 00:01:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 00:01:06 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1556089266; bh=C2pqUUKKlAg+2vWWpKp75am52QeuVvmPyfSJ+LbpkL4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=FHNnJOiwPZTkUotu1uX1q6hGhsUyTfgtfrNr2ZrTIijkr9/E70mxmu/GnqK3m+Ha3 AAsyqzVECqiXF5dIehqDfR3CA2xN3VeVkpi8MYAA8BX5VmCtHHr1Qetn083inG1L/S /OkQDoYvtUMoiFb6xCI32Bo+tujW1lynjr92QOME= From: Mark Nottingham Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Use short headers for stateless reset (#2599) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cc009b2d52e9_22823fadb30cd960247449"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mnot X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 07:01:10 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cc009b2d52e9_22823fadb30cd960247449 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reopened #2599. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2599#event-2296191053 ----==_mimepart_5cc009b2d52e9_22823fadb30cd960247449 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Reopened #2599.

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Please don't close issues until AFTER consensus is declared (not just called).

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Reopened #1834.

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Please don't close issues until AFTER consensus is declared (not just called).

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----==_mimepart_5cc009d4bc2ce_47e43facac8cd96099786-- From nobody Wed Apr 24 01:33:38 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6724120180 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 01:33:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id StkffEXD-FLh for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 01:33:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 78DF11200A4 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 01:33:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 01:33:34 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1556094814; bh=vR8PhaajvK/oYq/OGXjPWDXsagGg5EcSfq66DYS4qic=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=pAtFABNj4MjT0Un3TImVxkzF6ZAqGSTM8rIcHWOb5dDe+oInbptulW9cKZiPS1Z5R Etl8hNSfOFC1hOSRbOp6W82MI1+EBMH2mtt3Q9outTADb5KDlby8ANeJ8k+apfNtzm pLoskEPt3Uu+sOH553mMTmv25dJjG2VJe95qFK7I= From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] max_ack_delay is unknown when a new connection is established (#2638) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cc01f5e204b8_70543fb6efecd96c10195b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 08:33:37 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cc01f5e204b8_70543fb6efecd96c10195b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @marten-seemann : It's not about the RTT, it's about the PTO, or crypto timeout to be more precise. It's reasonable to continue using max_ack_delay for RTT computations, since it caps ack_delay (ack_delay should be 0 or something very small for those anyways). But when computing the crypto timeout, we don't want to include the max_ack_delay for the reasons you cite. The draft currently does not have the max_ack_delay being used for the crypto retransmission timer, which was an oversight. We'll clean that up separately, but fortuitously, this means that there's no max_ack_delay in the pseudo_code or text to change. I don't mind initializing it to 0 or any value, but it won't have any real effect on endpoint behavior based on the draft. max_ack_delay doesn't kick in until after the handshake is roughly complete. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2638#issuecomment-486124580 ----==_mimepart_5cc01f5e204b8_70543fb6efecd96c10195b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@marten-seemann : It's not about the RTT, it's about = the PTO, or crypto timeout to be more precise. It's reasonable to continu= e using max_ack_delay for RTT computations, since it caps ack_delay (ack_= delay should be 0 or something very small for those anyways). But when co= mputing the crypto timeout, we don't want to include the max_ack_delay fo= r the reasons you cite.

The draft currently does not have the max_ack_delay being used for the= crypto retransmission timer, which was an oversight. We'll clean that u= p separately, but fortuitously, this means that there's no max_ack_delay = in the pseudo_code or text to change.

I don't mind initializing it to 0 or any value, but it won't have any = real effect on endpoint behavior based on the draft. max_ack_delay doesn= 't kick in until after the handshake is roughly complete.

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Not sure why we don't already.

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The wording around persistent congestion sounds across pn_spaces:

When an ACK frame is received that establishes loss of all in-flight packets sent over a long enough period of time, the network is considered to be experiencing persistent congestion.

But DetectLostPackets function is per pn_space and persistent congestion checking is invoked from there. So if DetectLostPackets find all packets of one pn_space within a persistent congestion window are lost but packets from other pn_space within this time window are not lost, is this persistent congestion?

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I think it should only be for ApplicationData, and say that we expect th= e handshake timeout to be smaller than the persistent congestion threshold,= so it does not need to apply to Initial or Handshake spaces.

Prior to the persistent congestion concept, RTOs(and then consecutive PT= Os) were used as a signal of persistent congestion, and the RTO and PTO ala= rm are only active when the crypto handshake alarm is not, so I think sayin= g it's ApplicationData only is keeping with the original design.

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= ----==_mimepart_5cc0668f67b39_79943f948c2cd96c2860fe-- From nobody Wed Apr 24 06:51:50 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23B161201A8 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 06:51:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tUIFhYbC4CqB for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 06:51:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4125F120364 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 06:51:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 06:51:41 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1556113901; bh=s89Y7nwlO8k7YdQcOpVnYOllidaPX/go6dO3/k89gco=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Ep8JhK07YWHkymYOlpYiEIKg0VD9UlJLlGWoKPg9W6XgZg0V8GeNKN4mCEFRs/VzV 2CAZD49RZlEXPf55mGaYSymnXyq+ibqksygezR9J71vvDGVg3k8rd3h06Z3w3iBM4u 6NCkyEUyIuAJG8EAwc7riXAQVtoq8eMDlZy4AKGo= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC timers would be simpler if the Handshake timer was unified with the PTO timer (#2650) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cc069ed28cac_368f3fa4a72cd9641649e1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 13:51:50 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cc069ed28cac_368f3fa4a72cd9641649e1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The main optimization the handshake timer makes is the assumption that max_ack_delay does not need to be waited for before firing. However, it also uses a completely different equation for a timeout (2 * SRTT vs SRTT + 4*RTTVar). We could fix the max_ack_delay difference by defaulting max_ack_delay to 0(#2646), like almost all other transport parameters. If there are no RTT measurements or estimates, we could use 1 second. If there are no RTT measurements, but there is an estimate, we could either use the PTO formula and assume RTTVar is 1/2 RTT(=> 3*RTT), or we could recommend estimating RTTVar as well as RTT. The first approach seems more practical. Another notable difference is the advice to retransmit all the handshake packets instead of 1 or 2, but given the current 3x amplification limit, if a server sends 2 packets in response to a ClientHello, they can't even retransmit both packets, so advising that they retransmit all handshake packets is not indicative of real-world behavior. If the server only has 1 handshake packet, then there's no change. The client should always be able to fit its CRYPTO data into a single packet, unless there are large client certs. If there are large client certs, one would expect time or packet threshold loss recovery to be faster and more effective than timer based retransmissions. And at that point, the client should have at least one RTT sample. The goal of this issue is to make the recovery mechanisms simpler, as well as including RTTVar in the handshake timer, as #2648 suggests. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2650 ----==_mimepart_5cc069ed28cac_368f3fa4a72cd9641649e1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The main optimization the handshake timer makes is the assumption that max_ack_delay does not need to be waited for before firing. However, it also uses a completely different equation for a timeout (2 * SRTT vs SRTT + 4*RTTVar). We could fix the max_ack_delay difference by defaulting max_ack_delay to 0(#2646), like almost all other transport parameters.

If there are no RTT measurements or estimates, we could use 1 second. If there are no RTT measurements, but there is an estimate, we could either use the PTO formula and assume RTTVar is 1/2 RTT(=> 3*RTT), or we could recommend estimating RTTVar as well as RTT. The first approach seems more practical.

Another notable difference is the advice to retransmit all the handshake packets instead of 1 or 2, but given the current 3x amplification limit, if a server sends 2 packets in response to a ClientHello, they can't even retransmit both packets, so advising that they retransmit all handshake packets is not indicative of real-world behavior. If the server only has 1 handshake packet, then there's no change. The client should always be able to fit its CRYPTO data into a single packet, unless there are large client certs. If there are large client certs, one would expect time or packet threshold loss recovery to be faster and more effective than timer based retransmissions. And at that point, the client should have at least one RTT sample.

The goal of this issue is to make the recovery mechanisms simpler, as well as including RTTVar in the handshake timer, as #2648 suggests.

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The crypto retransmission timer doesn't use max_ack_delay intentionall= y, see: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-qu= ic-recovery-20#section-4.1

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If PR#2637 lands, we'd need to restrict this to cases when the PATH_RESPONSE arrived on the same path the PATH_CHALLENGE was sent on.

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To clarify, I was trying to note push is optional, and not required.

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Good point on our use of max_ meaning an absolute value. Maybe active_connection_id_limit or connection_id_limit? active_connection_ids implies the TP is providing active connection IDs in the transport param.

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I merged #2611 into a random local branch instead of head, so I'm reopening this.

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Reopened #2611.

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Fixed version of #2621 which was inadvertently merged into a local branch.

Fixes #2611

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2651

Commit Summary

  • Remove lost_pn and avoid integer underflow

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1076,8 +1076,11 @@ Pseudocode for OnAckReceived and UpdateRtt follow:
 
 ~~~
 OnAckReceived(ack, pn_space):
-  largest_acked_packet[pn_space] =
-      max(largest_acked_packet[pn_space], ack.largest_acked)
+  if (largest_acked_packet[pn_space] == infinite):

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----==_mimepart_5cc07bb6952c_517a3fe5b72cd9681624b1-- From nobody Wed Apr 24 08:29:04 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE358120291 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 08:29:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vOlqLGmJbuBF for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 08:29:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F013120171 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 08:29:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 08:28:59 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1556119739; bh=wWsczdekpzQeg3/wq1sv3WeZS1YFITIXecriwUEuhAU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=s4nODmiPTuDFyyzy5Xds/T6Iw8UgBjYQdGNoSkR0UDZwZKFfV0/l+U4hfMmYOBoqK swtlJhXbA0TDU0bm/h4pVS0000e5kefbBlXtunv3pkC4hQo/onmTRbJ9ZjvcnQG7hv HO7OnjbbLzTzrgGB5MwJrd7ko+DR3V/WGhxRwhIE= From: Rui Paulo Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] RTT measurement using PATH_* frames (#2644) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cc080bb2f421_5f6c3ff760ecd9609986a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: rpaulo X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 15:29:03 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cc080bb2f421_5f6c3ff760ecd9609986a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @ianswett don't we already have text about that? > To ensure that packets can be both sent to and received from the peer, the PATH_RESPONSE MUST be sent on the same path as the triggering PATH_CHALLENGE. That is, from the same local address on which the PATH_CHALLENGE was received, to the same remote address from which the PATH_CHALLENGE was received. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2644#issuecomment-486291402 ----==_mimepart_5cc080bb2f421_5f6c3ff760ecd9609986a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@ianswett don't we already have text about that?

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Oh i see your point. Basically crypto timer would have been fired earl= ier than persistent congestion. So this is for AppData only and will appl= y to AppData only anyway, then I shouldn't have to worry about packets fr= om more than on pn_space are in the persistent congestion window.

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This section in no way references the crypto handshake timer, so there's no reason to put it there. It's possible this should be up-leveled out of loss recovery as well? From nobody Wed Apr 24 12:32:09 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CF1F120321 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 12:32:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vciEGjoNLapq for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 12:32:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-12.smtp.github.com (out-12.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6772A12031B for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 12:32:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 12:32:04 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1556134325; bh=h5X7DH2Iy8gDm4UTi1T/sHW58ijfOHyIabrwyR/GicU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=su/azr4DGvT4bbWjAyAcE72UyNeUurRcLssK1g9Q+uh4Cthm3Bbd0rgne3CzXuf3d J+yhxzRDrrue+00E/9+Y5EF9b3r1k/s88HyJryXEPmWGjzbghUnWCYCjte/ec0G+Fn Ws4e0kwL6LkCr2pV0gGwSIp+5+VoIbXwG+uU9kxo= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Move "Discarding Keys and Packet State" up (#2652) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cc0b9b4cf4cb_68b83fdacf2cd960817a1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 19:32:08 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cc0b9b4cf4cb_68b83fdacf2cd960817a1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Move the "Discarding Keys and Packet State" section up a level and out from underneath the Crypto Handshake Timer. This section in no way references the crypto handshake timer, so there's no reason to put it there. It's possible this should be up-leveled out of loss recovery as well? You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2652 -- Commit Summary -- * Move "Discarding Keys and Packet State" up -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md (48) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2652.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2652.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2652 ----==_mimepart_5cc0b9b4cf4cb_68b83fdacf2cd960817a1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Move the "Discarding Keys and Packet State" section up a level and out from underneath the Crypto Handshake Timer.

This section in no way references the crypto handshake timer, so there's no reason to put it there. It's possible this should be up-leveled out of loss recovery as well?

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2652

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  • Move "Discarding Keys and Packet State" up

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That's true, but URLs may have already been promised (not yet pushed) and there may already be requests waiting to rendezvous with the pushed stream. WDYT?

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----==_mimepart_5cc0e5eacb595_7dca3f82752cd96811674a-- From nobody Wed Apr 24 15:48:18 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB7531200FC for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 15:48:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sRlI36y13Oa0 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 15:48:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8CFFE12044B for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 15:48:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 15:48:13 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1556146093; bh=HrREsF532zfky3j7+qo6j4xMTwzosuQtu9k1sWiCtVg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=acO9MCY9JLBqX0lnyszSkvDL6kvrJVr0tQoepAuc7wr5hVJU48nkLG1pEEDmOL4Yk FrDAVYAr2wRDArkQPTkzV9VW1uI/Zx4/Yg/BCv1Nolm4opWY/Ji8lJ4zocQHXKrTeX WNKbuNYMoQty32p+Sn5C6y4FTAR/UuBB9iULHbLM= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Semantics of SETTINGS_MAX_HEADER_LIST_SIZE (#2516) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cc0e7ad909e1_2d773fc2650cd96c775ab"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 22:48:17 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cc0e7ad909e1_2d773fc2650cd96c775ab Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In theory, this should advertise the limit beyond which a peer wouldn't have propagated the payload anyway; it permits, but doesn't require, the entity that's about to send the payload to send a (miniscule) error in the opposite direction / on the API rather than forwarding a message it expects to be rejected based on header size. That's purely an optimization, and it's always acceptable to just transfer the big thing and find out at the end that it failed. Because there could be multiple intermediaries, it's entirely possible that one stream could see an EXCESSIVE_LOAD error even though the headers weren't too large for the first hop upstream. That's one of the biggest reasons this needs to be a stream error -- the setting is hop-by-hop, but enforcement is ultimately on a per-request basis across the set of hops. If used this way, it shouldn't break anything that wasn't broken before -- things that would have failed will simply fail faster. If you don't implement it, then you'll still eventually get an EXCESSIVE_LOAD or a 400. I agree that the current text doesn't reflect this usage pattern. If we agree that this is the correct way to envision it, I'll write up better text. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2516#issuecomment-486456057 ----==_mimepart_5cc0e7ad909e1_2d773fc2650cd96c775ab Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

In theory, this should advertise the limit beyond which a peer wouldn'= t have propagated the payload anyway; it permits, but doesn't require, th= e entity that's about to send the payload to send a (miniscule) error in = the opposite direction / on the API rather than forwarding a message it e= xpects to be rejected based on header size. That's purely an optimizatio= n, and it's always acceptable to just transfer the big thing and find out= at the end that it failed.

Because there could be multiple intermediaries, it's entirely possible= that one stream could see an EXCESSIVE_LOAD error even though the header= s weren't too large for the first hop upstream. That's one of the bigges= t reasons this needs to be a stream error -- the setting is hop-by-hop, b= ut enforcement is ultimately on a per-request basis across the set of hop= s.

If used this way, it shouldn't break anything that wasn't broken befor= e -- things that would have failed will simply fail faster. If you don't= implement it, then you'll still eventually get an EXCESSIVE_LOAD or a 40= 0.

I agree that the current text doesn't reflect this usage pattern. If = we agree that this is the correct way to envision it, I'll write up bette= r text.

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= ----==_mimepart_5cc0e7ad909e1_2d773fc2650cd96c775ab-- From nobody Wed Apr 24 15:56:47 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E78B112044E for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 15:56:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.455 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.455 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GG-8seH640nY for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 15:56:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3374C120380 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 15:56:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 15:56:43 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1556146603; bh=0TX3lp/4lvGu5iccFZYQu7FUeBkkd/U0lqnfMkADmS0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=q47Jp+e4oEL8SxZBpmFl7wodG/LhA4szYaidOICciWO4i3EooLWWR8T0HanojAi0/ LSny4rZ8qSngE0+aBK0sO1mqawcQKLyV/IldfI8ozIj3skCD5TRk/FPiiA3w7BsjO+ 7SODzvcse58SMclyO9WF43dcPxoTGGTt4AgWjcaM= From: Mark Nottingham Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Use short headers for stateless reset (#2599) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cc0e9ab1176a_64b23fb6210cd96c664f4"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mnot X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 22:56:46 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cc0e9ab1176a_64b23fb6210cd96c664f4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Right. The trigger is `has-consensus`, not `has-proposal`. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2599#issuecomment-486457815 ----==_mimepart_5cc0e9ab1176a_64b23fb6210cd96c664f4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Right. The trigger is has-consensus, not has-proposal.

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But it's understandable Martin would have assumed this was one of the issues that was sent out in the batch of issues a week and a half ago, given this has been tagged with has-proposal for 15 days.

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----==_mimepart_5cc0eda04349e_62073fb812ccd96812034b-- From nobody Wed Apr 24 16:41:23 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91B4C12046D for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 16:41:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pKPUrDZrK6Sh for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 16:41:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AB72B120464 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 16:41:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 16:41:18 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1556149278; bh=E4wfXRzSKS6TAc/t25seeCvNwW6zZKNxPi9b43C58yA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=zkPRwkwHIVrcJgunhH8zoFaZ71he+lf+tPN8jVw5kyt8DTCjOf94HUIGZ2xx2V2kl 1xcTsOeIKc7iVLPZIzdTFk1xP/0O6Bht78HrUUL1mD0//I55jIX8+5PTRLDrt13F4Y KnqM3GH0JkWFh//HnzWCOVP/Io2Lg5hqSOEkoNDk= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] H3 GOAWAY should be symmetric and cover bidi and uni streams (#2632) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cc0f41ebdb9f_55f53ffac60cd96470279b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 23:41:22 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cc0f41ebdb9f_55f53ffac60cd96470279b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That's also a detail of one particular push implementation, not an inherent way that push works. I *think* the Push implementation in WinInet would still work, because the push cache is at the level of a request group rather than an individual connection. (Somewhat moot for deployment use, but existence proof that there's more than one possible implementation of that.) -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2632#issuecomment-486466564 ----==_mimepart_5cc0f41ebdb9f_55f53ffac60cd96470279b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

That's also a detail of one particular push implementation, not an inh= erent way that push works. I think the Push implementation in W= inInet would still work, because the push cache is at the level of a requ= est group rather than an individual connection. (Somewhat moot for deplo= yment use, but existence proof that there's more than one possible implem= entation of that.)

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= ----==_mimepart_5cc0f41ebdb9f_55f53ffac60cd96470279b-- From nobody Wed Apr 24 16:50:42 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77BDB120478 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 16:50:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VxFfEjOAI2Kl for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 16:50:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C25412046D for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 16:50:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 16:50:37 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1556149837; bh=zlqdxJhcsaScybAIQaIDNTXV/UgHB29nQHISYKj47xc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=KP26UNRel64LO/lFm1167+TjNxm0GQcQIcNLZe/l33mhf9wYW7OJq/PK+JKIAVhu1 iv58BBdYufVmEf4olWqi9AfCbxZgCkG9kgKd8TZKi5f212fjFiBt0HhR/O0DWva6+T rEqxK4Ke/06qB71LBCFK5Ks8jNdzZRM7FyBAFcAM= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] H3 GOAWAY should be symmetric and cover bidi and uni streams (#2632) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cc0f64dd7983_1e1d3fc563ccd96415082b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 23:50:40 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cc0f64dd7983_1e1d3fc563ccd96415082b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I currently see 4 options: 1) Do nothing and assume there are some implementation specific edge cases that are going to go fairly sideways, but they're unlikely to cause user visible issues. 2) Move GOAWAY to transport and have it include uni and bidi. 3) Add a max push id to the existing GOAWAY 4) Add a new frame for push. I'm ok with 1 and 2, and would be hesitant to pursue 3 or 4. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2632#issuecomment-486468323 ----==_mimepart_5cc0f64dd7983_1e1d3fc563ccd96415082b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I currently see 4 options:

  1. Do nothing and assume there are some implementation specific edge cas= es that are going to go fairly sideways, but they're unlikely to cause us= er visible issues.
  2. Move GOAWAY to transport and have it include uni and bidi.
  3. Add a max push id to the existing GOAWAY
  4. Add a new frame for push.

I'm ok with 1 and 2, and would be hesitant to pursue 3 or 4.

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= ----==_mimepart_5cc0f64dd7983_1e1d3fc563ccd96415082b-- From nobody Wed Apr 24 17:10:34 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99B5212045B for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 17:10:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Q26hN-7iPjUM for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 17:10:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 294A81200BA for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 17:10:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 17:10:30 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1556151030; bh=ABPf3UEqM8boDhCb3k4oPPF+2JsbCiMQWIqONVG5DFc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=zTIKO1QnNnWObruLK8w53sTtVjqyTqDkhd+/T6Xeh8gGsi04m/nSalyUoCfWqRkIk p1LfeX0m1fjhLiM/EW7jh2OssDzQkGW8knuXMh8PsAY5Y7m9NSpbcVLbOLIwShmPUQ l9AikfdQUn42r3ildZMygnvGCLnKwoV3BtuRj4iA= From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] H3 GOAWAY should be symmetric and cover bidi and uni streams (#2632) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cc0faf64026_21503ffcbbecd964765c6"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2019 00:10:33 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cc0faf64026_21503ffcbbecd964765c6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I prefer option 1. I dont see what 3 provides. I think we could achieve the same by adding text that says something like "the server commits to resolving all existing promises sent on streams up to and including the stream ID indicated in GOAWAY. Pushes may be cancelled or reset as normal". My 2p. GOAWAY is starting to sound like more of a STOP_CREATING (you have credit but it's a waste to use it in the current state) and PROCESSED (endpoint processed all entities up to ID, it is safe to retry higher IDs on a different connection). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2632#issuecomment-486472094 ----==_mimepart_5cc0faf64026_21503ffcbbecd964765c6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I prefer option 1.

I dont see what 3 provides. I think we could achieve the same by addin= g text that says something like "the server commits to resolving all exis= ting promises sent on streams up to and including the stream ID indicated= in GOAWAY. Pushes may be cancelled or reset as normal".

My 2p. GOAWAY is starting to sound like more of a STOP_CREATING (you h= ave credit but it's a waste to use it in the current state) and PROCESSED= (endpoint processed all entities up to ID, it is safe to retry higher ID= s on a different connection).

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= ----==_mimepart_5cc0faf64026_21503ffcbbecd964765c6-- From nobody Wed Apr 24 17:40:21 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 379E712015E for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 17:40:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ke6EVDXa8cpb for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 17:40:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 62321120152 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 17:40:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 17:40:15 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1556152815; bh=NIrr+AWryRQ4OQoj0aby8Kh2ObQn2IKrDZKz1yO0SpE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=yYE3kiLB83K4rC1mUi8l5IaEQXP15Gb7ekio3/T5/ArKgNPrPFF7VEjwDEOQjkrgW vtQYcvf/14V7K5tbK7IVqKnnVSmC/en19PiLCywM2hLBVQnFqKGjn+iZxNnvo+39Y9 i/CNUcXI9lxzXuphVH1Pw6x2S4Xh9Spdu0tkGdgs= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] H3 GOAWAY should be symmetric and cover bidi and uni streams (#2632) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cc101ef9b362_1a8b3fdf786cd96823005b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2019 00:40:19 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cc101ef9b362_1a8b3fdf786cd96823005b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @afrind besides the theoretical interest of how GOAWAY works with extensions, do you have any HTTP/3 extension in mind where the current GOAWAY breaks badly? And if so, would it be feasible to add another GOAWAY_EXTENSION frame for that use case? ie: Can we just not fix this, or make some editorial tweaks? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2632#issuecomment-486477070 ----==_mimepart_5cc101ef9b362_1a8b3fdf786cd96823005b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@afrind besides the theoretical interest of how GOAWAY works = with extensions, do you have any HTTP/3 extension in mind where the curre= nt GOAWAY breaks badly? And if so, would it be feasible to add another G= OAWAY_EXTENSION frame for that use case?

ie: Can we just not fix this, or make some editorial tweaks?

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= ----==_mimepart_5cc101ef9b362_1a8b3fdf786cd96823005b-- From nobody Wed Apr 24 23:20:41 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4A861200FE for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 23:20:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MLVAq9APWEcZ for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 23:20:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-14.smtp.github.com (out-14.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 41434120075 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 23:20:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 23:20:38 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1556173238; bh=6fdTLXMvrN9xHezYQUD/SEPk3Qk4Gly2hJ9pBEuhNCE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=TJ6+4k2Afnx7M+GZZ5KNJCcJKCl6DoQ7veQMdv7vee8SK8vZcKWiybISrsF4H43XP vrofBfpdAmfifEfhShslL0n+fYnQBwEYqjWtWBSnEuHB5fSKg4PlJaeNS5RbFVuGOZ 7hCUsOfzIV2r6/zmKQko7nEz9/x6NUqna36Nc0bA= From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Recovery would be simpler if the Handshake timer was unified with the PTO timer (#2650) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cc151b616b2b_555e3f88d46cd96841148e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2019 06:20:41 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cc151b616b2b_555e3f88d46cd96841148e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes -- I was heading in this direction with #2648, and it is how we're implementing recovery in quicly. I realized that we have a false separation between the crypto retransmission timer and the PTO timers. Using _only_ the PTO timer basically is the most sensible approach. We need to ensure that max_ack_delay is used only after handshake, and there's some care required there, but that's still much better than what we have now. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2650#issuecomment-486534895 ----==_mimepart_5cc151b616b2b_555e3f88d46cd96841148e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yes -- I was heading in this direction with #2648, and it is = how we're implementing recovery in quicly. I realized that we have a fals= e separation between the crypto retransmission timer and the PTO timers. = Using only the PTO timer basically is the most sensible approach= .

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Packet threshold uses difference in packet number as a proxy for datagrams, which is not true with packet coalescing.

Fortunately, coalescing is only used during the handshake, and packet-threshold detection is not very useful for Initial and Handshake packets. One proposal is to not use packet-threshold detection for detecting losses of Initial or Handshake packets.

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Can you be more specific about the issue you're seeing and how packet = coalescing is relevant, because I don't understand the issue.

If you were allocating packet numbers from a single space when doing m= ultiple PN spaces, then unless you adjust for that, you could become very= sensitive to reordering, but that is implementation specific and doesn't= involve coalescing.

We could disable packet threshold for Initial and Handshake PN spaces,= and it likely wouldn't matter during the handshake since it's rare to ha= ve 3 packets outstanding at once anyway, so time threshold is likely to k= ick in sooner.

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It seems like this doesn't reflect the suggestion of making it 0ms for Initial and Handshake PN spaces, rather than discussing what to do before a transport param was received. Were you going to update the PR, or keep it as is?

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -309,7 +309,8 @@ parameter, see Section 18.1 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}.  max_ack_delay implies an
 explicit contract: an endpoint promises to never delay acknowledgments of an
 ack-eliciting packet by more than the indicated value. If it does, any excess
 accrues to the RTT estimate and could result in spurious retransmissions from
-the peer.
+the peer.  Before receiving the transport parameters, endpoints use a value of 0

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The abstract sugge= sts that these are a part of a different I-D. I also have comments on the i= ntention for dealing with path changes:=0D ---=0D Section 9.4:=0D NiT: =E2=80=9COn confirming a peer's ownership of its new address, an endpo= int=0D SHOULD immediately reset the congestion controller and round-trip=0D time estimator for the new path.=E2=80=9D=0D - To be clear, does this reset require setting the CC to the initial value = for a connection? I think so.=0D =E2=80=94=0D CC: =E2=80=9CAn endpoint MUST NOT return to the send rate used for the pr= evious=0D path unless it is reasonably sure that the previous send rate is=0D valid for the new path. =E2=80=9C=0D - This is a congestion control semantic. (I=E2=80=99m surprised this is a p= art of QUIC transport, rather than the CC & recovery draft). I think the no= rmal transport assumption is that a change of path implies a loss of conges= tion state and other path CC parameters. 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To me, section 9.4 contains a mixture of transport and congestion contr= ol functions (choice of path parameters - RTO, window, etc). The abstract s= uggests that these are a part of a different I-D. I also have comments on t= he intention for dealing with path changes:

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CC:=C2=A0=C2=A0 =E2=80=9CWhile multiple paths might be used during conne= ction migration, a
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Makes the crypto timeout(including deadlock prevention) a special case of PTO.

Fixes #2650

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  • Merge crypto timeout into PTO

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----==_mimepart_5cc3cdfc7cb50_33933ff301ecd964692c6-- From nobody Fri Apr 26 22:50:30 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 749D31200C4 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2019 22:50:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id T9YxZsr2kxj4 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2019 22:50:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B86FA12008F for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2019 22:50:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2019 22:50:24 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1556344224; bh=kgmJdcKOeDllH/c7VfQ3KHpWqaWg/WAFsUPrxlExrPw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=BqC6+5BVBrI1M9JdLPQifljYYuMOGOYO1oxrfcGlLhRFu4WHqGr7G/p8W4T496hIO BmzTnIedT5dSe3FAqDFeGzsUE9cjVQ4bol3DKIGN5SiNGk7a6jQZ1yGyqw3qzbF8b8 6ZFTpl6Mdzbmq5zWjD963YeAoL6a3VbV64v6grbw= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Merge crypto timeout into PTO (#2655) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cc3eda07e8f1_25d53fa3082cd9645541"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2019 05:50:28 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cc3eda07e8f1_25d53fa3082cd9645541 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mikkelfj commented on this pull request. Overall, it's great to reduce the number of overlapping timers, but see comments. > +The initial PTO SHOULD be set to twice the initial RTT or 1 second if no +initial RTT is available as recommended in {{?RFC6298}}. + +Until the server has validated the client's address on the path, the amount of +data it can send is limited, as specified in Section 8.1 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}. +If not all unacknowledged CRYPTO data can be sent, then all unacknowledged +CRYPTO data sent in Initial packets should be retransmitted. If no data can be +sent, then no alarm should be armed until data has been received from the +client. + +Because the server could be blocked until more packets are received, the client +MUST ensure that the crypto retransmission timer is set if there is +unacknowledged crypto data or if the client does not yet have 1-RTT keys. +If the crypto retransmission timer expires before the client has 1-RTT keys, +it is possible that the client may not have any crypto data to retransmit. +However, the client MUST send a new packet, containing only PING or PADDING ```suggestion However, the client MUST send a new packet, containing only PADDING ``` PING is not valid nor necessary here, no? > +the count of bytes in flight. + +Endpoints stop sending and receiving Initial packets once they start exchanging +Handshake packets (see Section 17.2.2.1 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}). At this point, +recovery state for all in-flight Initial packets is discarded. + +When 0-RTT is rejected, recovery state for all in-flight 0-RTT packets is +discarded. + +If a server accepts 0-RTT, but does not buffer 0-RTT packets that arrive +before Initial packets, early 0-RTT packets will be declared lost, but that +is expected to be infrequent. + +It is expected that keys are discarded after packets encrypted with them would +be acknowledged or declared lost. Initial secrets however might be destroyed +sooner, as soon as handshake keys are available (see Section 4.10 of Discarding keys based on being declared lost seems odd to me. Either you abandon the handshake, or you discard keys when you are ready to advance to the next PN space, however that is defined. That readiness might involve overlapped PN spaces, waiting for older packets to ACK or to declare lost, but loss alone cannot be the criteria. > @@ -689,6 +597,69 @@ is received that newly acknowledges packets, loss detection proceeds as dictated by packet and time threshold mechanisms, see {{ack-loss-detection}}. +## PTO for Crypto Packets + +The initial PTO SHOULD be set to twice the initial RTT or 1 second if no +initial RTT is available as recommended in {{?RFC6298}}. + +Until the server has validated the client's address on the path, the amount of +data it can send is limited, as specified in Section 8.1 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}. +If not all unacknowledged CRYPTO data can be sent, then all unacknowledged +CRYPTO data sent in Initial packets should be retransmitted. If no data can be +sent, then no alarm should be armed until data has been received from the +client. + If no alarm is armed, the connection is at the mercy of the client. I supposed connection timeout is not armed yet, and also the wrong metric, but the server needs to be able to time out the connection attempt somehow. On a related note, text below on Retry/VNEG says they do not ack an Initial, but I suppose they could be used to time out connection state server side? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2655#pullrequestreview-231410100 ----==_mimepart_5cc3eda07e8f1_25d53fa3082cd9645541 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Overall, it's great to reduce the number of overlapping timers, but se= e comments.

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PING is not valid nor necessary here, no?

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Discarding keys based on being declared lost seems odd to me. Either y= ou abandon the handshake, or you discard keys when you are ready to advan= ce to the next PN space, however that is defined. That readiness might in= volve overlapped PN spaces, waiting for older packets to ACK or to declar= e lost, but loss alone cannot be the criteria.

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If no alarm is armed, the connection is at the mercy of the client. I = supposed connection timeout is not armed yet, and also the wrong metric, = but the server needs to be able to time out the connection attempt someho= w.

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I updated the PR such that max_ack_delay is only used for the 1-RTT packet number space.

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----==_mimepart_5cc50ce236ef3_4fcf3fba40ccd960997560-- From nobody Sat Apr 27 19:16:39 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C796A12001B for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2019 19:16:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.455 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.455 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kHBGSboektdI for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2019 19:16:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 516AF12009C for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2019 19:16:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2019 19:16:35 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1556417795; bh=U9LmrHd3FP/xUCWuo+kJLCXdY68h4FcS/KtA3J/aQOg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=RFIMmUElB/DRmDiiVavfgPBTpurt2WGCZfmKFbgMeuA/CC0v6EX8tTk73k963cqGe 88g5TXclrNfyDiVAL/zqEZUqhInSADDHBjMdB7JucwabI1f0hB0JNNa1Phauq6Agh5 ipbkYz7MAd/Qm6uYeh906FHIfX6+N4LLUhIWm+1U= From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] introduce a max_connection_ids transport parameter (#1998) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cc50d034fd3c_5ebd3feb99ecd9601486b0"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 02:16:38 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cc50d034fd3c_5ebd3feb99ecd9601486b0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for the suggestion. I renamed the TP to active_connection_id_limit. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1998#issuecomment-487334719 ----==_mimepart_5cc50d034fd3c_5ebd3feb99ecd9601486b0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Thanks for the suggestion. I renamed the TP to active_connection_id_limit.

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[ci skip] From nobody Sat Apr 27 23:20:44 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D63DF120094 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2019 23:20:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gutAaAwG2jqR for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2019 23:20:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4074412001E for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2019 23:20:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2019 23:20:40 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1556432440; bh=ahr+ZLPWCV2TmafssOYamXA2yPecFNyFW4iIfmNSFCI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=b0DfISwhuo/Ef02upr8d1PO3OQuOFQY9w3WP+TPk7YAbmxcQ0j1bi8/A4z7ygPser 9gK1HJmrYg+XyOJCzZcYA6zUzak7AKpUWJJRXf/e3SGg2iQDcPbixZaBCeBP3iXE/2 2I221Xz9+MIwK66DPW3LnJ019u9ZeT44fHrMmSlU= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] use max_ack_delay = 0 before receving the TPs (#2646) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cc54638e01f_1b0c3fc79d0cd95c535119"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 06:20:43 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cc54638e01f_1b0c3fc79d0cd95c535119 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Note that the ack frames `ack.ack_delay` is also not defined before TP's are ready: >The value of the ACK Delay field is scaled by multiplying the encoded value by 2 to the power of the value of the ack_delay_exponent transport parameter set by the sender of the ACK frame. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Note that the ack frames ack.ack_delay is also not define= d before TP's are ready:

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Same applies to ack_delay_exponent

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Gah! I hate it when these diffs are so broken. I've gone over it, and I assume that this basically just moved text (and removed some unnecessary text), right? I want to do an editorial pass, but it might be best to do that once this is in. Go ahead and merge after you've fixed the merge issue.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +The initial PTO SHOULD be set to twice the initial RTT or 1 second if no
+initial RTT is available as recommended in {{?RFC6298}}.
+
+Until the server has validated the client's address on the path, the amount of
+data it can send is limited, as specified in Section 8.1 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}.
+If not all unacknowledged CRYPTO data can be sent, then all unacknowledged
+CRYPTO data sent in Initial packets should be retransmitted.  If no data can be
+sent, then no alarm should be armed until data has been received from the
+client.
+
+Because the server could be blocked until more packets are received, the client
+MUST ensure that the crypto retransmission timer is set if there is
+unacknowledged crypto data or if the client does not yet have 1-RTT keys.
+If the crypto retransmission timer expires before the client has 1-RTT keys,
+it is possible that the client may not have any crypto data to retransmit.
+However, the client MUST send a new packet, containing only PING or PADDING

Fair point. Yeah, I think only PADDING is fine.

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@janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +the count of bytes in flight.
+
+Endpoints stop sending and receiving Initial packets once they start exchanging
+Handshake packets (see Section 17.2.2.1 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}). At this point,
+recovery state for all in-flight Initial packets is discarded.
+
+When 0-RTT is rejected, recovery state for all in-flight 0-RTT packets is
+discarded.
+
+If a server accepts 0-RTT, but does not buffer 0-RTT packets that arrive
+before Initial packets, early 0-RTT packets will be declared lost, but that
+is expected to be infrequent.
+
+It is expected that keys are discarded after packets encrypted with them would
+be acknowledged or declared lost.  Initial secrets however might be destroyed
+sooner, as soon as handshake keys are available (see Section 4.10 of

This is pre-existing text, not new to this PR. The point however here isn't that you discard keys based on declaring packets lost, but that it is generally expected to be the case that packets are already declared lost (or acked) by the time keys are discarded.

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@mikkelfj

Same applies to ack_delay_exponent

Which why the spec says the following:

The default value is also used for ACK frames that are sent in Initial and Handshake packets.

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@mikkelfj That is not correct, see #2638 (comment).

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The recovery draft says:

Until the server has validated the client's address on the path, the amount of	
data it can send is limited, as specified in Section 8.1 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}.	
If not all unacknowledged CRYPTO data can be sent, then all unacknowledged	
CRYPTO data sent in Initial packets should be retransmitted.  If no data can be	
sent, then no alarm should be armed until data has been received from the	
client.

@mikkelfj notes in #2655 that the sender should discard connection state after some time.

This should probably happen after the idle timeout. In which case, the idle timeout timer ought to be armed.

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@janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -689,6 +597,69 @@ is received that newly acknowledges packets, loss detection proceeds as
 dictated by packet and time threshold mechanisms, see {{ack-loss-detection}}.
 
 
+## PTO for Crypto Packets
+
+The initial PTO SHOULD be set to twice the initial RTT or 1 second if no
+initial RTT is available as recommended in {{?RFC6298}}.
+
+Until the server has validated the client's address on the path, the amount of
+data it can send is limited, as specified in Section 8.1 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}.
+If not all unacknowledged CRYPTO data can be sent, then all unacknowledged
+CRYPTO data sent in Initial packets should be retransmitted.  If no data can be
+sent, then no alarm should be armed until data has been received from the
+client.
+

Yes, I meant to come to this -- thanks for catching it. This is not specific to this PR, so I've filed #2656 for it.

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----==_mimepart_5cc552e65621c_60c23fc79d0cd95c105020-- From nobody Sun Apr 28 00:58:36 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF46F1200E6 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2019 00:58:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.455 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.455 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Iolkgq9lSnAw for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2019 00:58:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 03AE7120092 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2019 00:58:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 00:58:30 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1556438310; bh=49npIC0snMqRCjbDqp5ZaQszmCRQooktHg1c7MqR9qM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=xYaJ+K0JZ6upF5vfgXPwhz+gCswUHkxBvrehBQc4kG6rltwTQJswnhV+oBF9kQC1t ClhY5Ad76XO6BNmuNjNsaRLrwq3qZCQMHep5kIULF1eWrpEqZc3bc9fYsbZrNi/r55 FjJF4djAlFA6K+7j8Ni0jBfvETAONLAUm1MJhI4I= From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove lost_pn and avoid integer underflow (#2651) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cc55d26c36e1_8543fcd148cd9647732fb"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 07:58:34 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cc55d26c36e1_8543fcd148cd9647732fb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit janaiyengar approved this pull request. Lgtm, merge after you've fixed the merge issue -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2651#pullrequestreview-231454398 ----==_mimepart_5cc55d26c36e1_8543fcd148cd9647732fb Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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OK, but given the latest commit ack_delay = min(ack_delay, max_ack_delay), max_ack_delay = 0 for Initial, Handshake, does it even make sense to define the exponent for that value rather the specifying ack.ack_delay must be zero for those packets?

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I think idle timeout might be too long depending on have cheaply a rogue client can initiate new connection attempts, possibly from spoofed source addresses, but that needs more analysis.

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This arises from a different discussion I had about the message exchange definition in section 5.1. The description is correct but glosses over the detail of QPACK, which is mentioned very briefly later in section 5.1.1.

For complete accuracy, I would argue that a single message exchange may also contain one or more QPACK encoder instructions sent on the encoder stream.

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I agree there should be a handshake timeout, which I believe is what you're discussing. But if so, that seems like a transport issue?

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  • 3779c9c don't use a default ack_delay_exponent for Initial and Handshake packets

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@mikkelfj This is true, there's no sense in defining an ack_= delay_exponent for Initial and Handshake packets if we're going to ignore= the ACK delay anyway. Should be safe to recommend to just send a 0 for t= hese packet number spaces.
I updated the PR accordingly. Since this now also touches the transport d= ocument, I guess we'll have to apply the late-stage consensus process to = get this merged.

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I agree with @ianswett that this is a transport issue, and= doesn't belong in the recovery document. There we are only talking about= the timers needed for loss recovery, and I would find it confusing to ta= lk about closing connections there.
I'm not sure if we need to have any text about a handshake timeout. An id= le timeout should be sufficient to garbage-collect connections that aren'= t active any more. Having a (shorter) handshake timeout is an optimizatio= n that implementations might or might not want to have, depending on the = threat model.

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More generally on idle timeout - would it be OK to do a periodic GC scan risking up to 100% later timeout than the advertised idle timeout? Avoiding timers in passive connections is much cheaper.

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Yes, idle timeout on a periodic sweep is likely better than assuming t= hat a timer is in play. As @marten-seemann says, anythi= ng we say here is in optimization territory. It is likely a very useful = optimization, but we don't need to say too much in the spec unless there = is an interop or security hazard. Offhand, I can't see anything other th= an a resource exhaustion problem, but that's clearly something that the p= eriodic sweep should address.

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= ----==_mimepart_5cc691ba1c1ce_79e43fb2e92cd964465477-- From nobody Sun Apr 28 23:43:03 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEE62120074 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2019 23:43:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HA2FTtxoUOQy for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2019 23:43:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ECAE6120072 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2019 23:42:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 23:42:58 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1556520178; bh=WwCM2Idyf3tdTJLfgHKEFEAoB+6t8EUzbPy2MzRGo6o=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ktVRVeLVbp9PDKt1XcPZZ96DAHqV2FQy+EJvpdZOnGqVWt2sSXBXfMmT3ASpkRhWk GUc6lI7Z6Fsv0I/gTXA3OT9LgENB9Xm9bVksmMZcZk6CmLFTQp4VWj18sOkowSyhdi nxVfPP7Q5EZdkv76pxhhSXMQu0JAjb91ers84flQ= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Discarding connection state at server on unvalidated client (#2656) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cc69cf2dd318_79d73fb2e92cd9641218381"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 06:43:02 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cc69cf2dd318_79d73fb2e92cd9641218381 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Am I correct in assuming that the PTO timer is not generally armed when data is transmitted actively on quality connections, or a while after data has been delivered? Combined with idle timeout scans this would mean that most long running connections would likely not have an active timer. This is a highly desirable property since a precise timer is O(log N). As far as I can tell theoretically O(1) timer wheels are no more effective than a good O(log N) implementation, including foregoing ordering below a certain resolution. There is a big difference between 1,000 entries and 100,000 timer entries. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2656#issuecomment-487466431 ----==_mimepart_5cc69cf2dd318_79d73fb2e92cd9641218381 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Am I correct in assuming that the PTO timer is not generally armed whe= n data is transmitted actively on quality connections, or a while after d= ata has been delivered?

Combined with idle timeout scans this would mean that most long runnin= g connections would likely not have an active timer.

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The extension we are developing allows complete bidirectionality to HTTP= , so a server can initiate a request/response to the client. The H2 mappin= g of this extension uses a client-sent GOAWAY to clue the server in to stop= doing this. I don't know that missing this will break-badly; it probably = depends on what application developers do with the bidirectionality. It's = asymmetric with H2, seemingly because we think we got it wrong in H2 and ar= e trying to correct it? I'm trying to say there is some value in keeping i= t symmetric.

I think Lucas correctly identified the semantics of what GOAWAY is - STO= P_CREATING and PROCESSED.

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One small suggestion, but LG. > @@ -1028,9 +1029,9 @@ min_rtt: max_ack_delay: : The maximum amount of time by which the receiver intends to delay - acknowledgments, in milliseconds. The actual ack_delay in a - received ACK frame may be larger due to late timers, reordering, - or lost ACKs. + acknowledgments. The value is initialized to 0, and updated when the peer's + transport parameters are received. The actual ACK Delay in a received ACK + frame may be larger due to late timers, reordering, or lost ACKs. Instead of crypto packets, I'd suggest packets in the ApplicationData packet number space? > @@ -1111,7 +1111,10 @@ OnAckReceived(ack, pn_space): IncludesAckEliciting(newly_acked_packets)) latest_rtt = now - sent_packets[pn_space][ack.largest_acked].time_sent - UpdateRtt(ack.ack_delay) + ack_delay = 0 + if pn_space == 1-RTT: ```suggestion if pn_space == ApplicationData: ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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One small suggestion, but LG.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

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Instead of crypto packets, I'd suggest packets in the ApplicationData pa= cket number space?

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

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  • b466b28 max_ack_delay applies to ApplicationData pn space, not on 1-RTT packets

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1028,9 +1029,9 @@ min_rtt:
 
 max_ack_delay:
 : The maximum amount of time by which the receiver intends to delay
-  acknowledgments, in milliseconds.  The actual ack_delay in a
-  received ACK frame may be larger due to late timers, reordering,
-  or lost ACKs.
+  acknowledgments. The value is initialized to 0, and updated when the peer's
+  transport parameters are received. The actual ACK Delay in a received ACK
+  frame may be larger due to late timers, reordering, or lost ACKs.

@ianswett Done.

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Each endpoint MUST -initiate a single encoder stream and decoder stream. Receipt of a second -instance of either stream type be MUST treated as a connection error of type +initiate at most one encoder stream and one decoder stream. Receipt of a second > Maybe swap the order to "one decoder stream and at most one encoder stream" to make it less likely to be misread as "at most one encoder stream and at most one decoder stream". Perhaps this manifests a difference of opinion, but that's exactly how I read this text, and what I think it should say. An implementation could defer creating both the decoder stream (because the peer hasn't yet sent anything that needs acknowledgement) and the encoder stream (because it doesn't intend to send anything on the dynamic table). > HTTP_WRONG_STREAM_COUNT. These streams MUST NOT be closed. Closure of either unidirectional stream type MUST be treated as a connection error of type HTTP_CLOSED_CRITICAL_STREAM. +An endpoint MAY avoid creating its own encoder stream if the maximum size of +the dynamic table permitted by the peer is zero. + +An endpoint MAY avoid creating its own decoder stream if the maximum size of +its own dynamic table is zero. + +An endpoint MUST allow its peer to create both encoder and decoder streams > I think most implementations will take closed streams into account to know when to issue more uni stream credit. In the case of servers, there's never a need to increase it in vanilla HTTP/3. Clients need only increase it when they want more pushes (or grease, or extensions, etc). Once the three basic streams are opened, servers never need to increase the number of streams, true. 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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

>  HTTP/3 endpoints contain a QPACK encoder and decoder. Each endpoint MUST
-initiate a single encoder stream and decoder stream. Receipt of a second
-instance of either stream type be MUST treated as a connection error of type
+initiate at most one encoder stream and one decoder stream. Receipt of a second

Maybe swap the order to "one decoder stream and at most one encoder stream" to make it less likely to be misread as "at most one encoder stream and at most one decoder stream".

Perhaps this manifests a difference of opinion, but that's exactly how I read this text, and what I think it should say. An implementation could defer creating both the decoder stream (because the peer hasn't yet sent anything that needs acknowledgement) and the encoder stream (because it doesn't intend to send anything on the dynamic table).

In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

>  HTTP_WRONG_STREAM_COUNT. These streams MUST NOT be closed. Closure of either
 unidirectional stream type MUST be treated as a connection error of type
 HTTP_CLOSED_CRITICAL_STREAM.
 
+An endpoint MAY avoid creating its own encoder stream if the maximum size of
+the dynamic table permitted by the peer is zero.
+
+An endpoint MAY avoid creating its own decoder stream if the maximum size of
+its own dynamic table is zero.
+
+An endpoint MUST allow its peer to create both encoder and decoder streams

I think most implementations will take closed streams into account to know when to issue more uni stream credit. In the case of servers, there's never a need to increase it in vanilla HTTP/3. Clients need only increase it when they want more pushes (or grease, or extensions, etc).

Once the three basic streams are opened, servers never need to increase the number of streams, true. However, the server still needs to keep giving credit as streams close until those three are opened at least.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

>  HTTP/3 endpoints contain a QPACK encoder and decoder. Each endpoint MUST
-initiate a single encoder stream and decoder stream. Receipt of a second
-instance of either stream type be MUST treated as a connection error of type
+initiate at most one encoder stream and one decoder stream. Receipt of a second

In that case, I propose the wording "at most one encoder stream and at most one decoder stream". The current text is ambigous, as evidenced by Mike and I parsing it differently.

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Fixes #2528 Commit: f61cb0294b1d0e4073cc000de79f98909907ca41 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f61cb0294b1d0e4073cc000de79f98909907ca41 Author: EKR Date: 2019-03-27 (Wed, 27 Mar 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Review comments Commit: 54bd1c2da60c6f34d713bcae952268475b6c1071 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/54bd1c2da60c6f34d713bcae952268475b6c1071 Author: EKR Date: 2019-03-27 (Wed, 27 Mar 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- e, not d Commit: da01bfe0e28bf53e20090e44a281f8f8c0338ba0 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/da01bfe0e28bf53e20090e44a281f8f8c0338ba0 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-03-27 (Wed, 27 Mar 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Reflow Commit: 4e2709b212661ef3e5052a2365c52120d7c10ce5 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4e2709b212661ef3e5052a2365c52120d7c10ce5 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-04-24 (Wed, 24 Apr 2019) Changed paths: M README.md M draft-ietf-quic-http.md M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md R draft-ietf-quic-spin-exp.md M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md M tag.sh Log Message: ----------- Merge branch 'master' into tp_mandatory Commit: d14cd3f1f0ca4e7f39d4a0db1699aa8bbf8be263 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d14cd3f1f0ca4e7f39d4a0db1699aa8bbf8be263 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-05-01 (Wed, 01 May 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #2560 from ekr/tp_mandatory Transport parameters are mandatory. Fixes #2528 Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/b660d2b5759b...d14cd3f1f0ca From nobody Tue Apr 30 15:23:09 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 958951200F6 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2019 15:23:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8EqsmMNENzAG for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2019 15:23:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BC1D812011C for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2019 15:23:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2019 15:23:04 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1556662984; bh=Q2E/MlA0YS3OsqXp47OwDuqObr9ieG6YWv5wF6AcYs8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Vp2+d08rkGBPn6oyOaCYoSX2VMpN44PaxssJFJpb+ZDycfDlmuYBhke2aQ6zMk5bA x0WHxnxiWeiZtCCwNwGVo+D1vFvTFrj4WGnNPHYrFtYbLrIsBId2C0oWZpNVK/ta4L oy00VOZAnZqTo9XEEQcSyb/rFNubMaaRSabcAYAo= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Transport parameters are mandatory. 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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Apr 30 15:35:56 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F66B120071 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2019 15:35:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.455 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.455 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id amSeZIV3KMOp for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2019 15:35:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE62412004D for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2019 15:35:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2019 15:35:51 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1556663751; bh=zFeT8FqTITfVWkw5D6FSZ175dLGk9OLSZHim31PxT24=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=OdGAeD/65U8S09sbXe3Hs34gFxKXkvQtwDye4BQhk92tOrFzGJDvICDxi1vhn8PPf 2UFP1Ge/KPdP7mrSVRjsewzlGZupN60smvyA5EsD5D37GXSwMFDo7dgy+jSi8P7tUh d9z7thuMumKGYGexjw8aScvNyU3aonKJ5Xd/Nhy8= From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Don't send PING in Initial or Handshake (#2642) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cc8cdc7b72ae_39da3fa67d0cd95c2658bc"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2019 22:35:55 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cc8cdc7b72ae_39da3fa67d0cd95c2658bc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LGTM, once you've added the note about congestion. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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----==_mimepart_5cc8cdc7b72ae_39da3fa67d0cd95c2658bc-- From nobody Tue Apr 30 15:48:23 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 375961203C2 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2019 15:48:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7f4l_XcsMK9r for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2019 15:48:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 928411200A0 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2019 15:48:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2019 15:48:18 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1556664498; bh=r8ern7C3r0/kzlYdVah9th7sbDjaYT/U7GUBcpwLG4A=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=VSrkedFfZr/MPvOaYobKU+R+Sl2dDRvjZGKZMHss4pxYkSHQFtmh63KvMEWHikWkQ LH2Ss6pijL/E0hx4w9HN7svhAXyVXbVcuNPSLRXsDA2ArRGUv7bDui/N4F29GJINAs j6ukk2ItLK9eAp2Eb/m7B47SFM4hmXA80nbSRzHM= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Discarding connection state at server on unvalidated client (#2656) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cc8d0b269a10_11b23f9056acd96c344639"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2019 22:48:22 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cc8d0b269a10_11b23f9056acd96c344639 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This seems somewhat related to Issue #2602 -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2656#issuecomment-488142890 ----==_mimepart_5cc8d0b269a10_11b23f9056acd96c344639 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

This seems somewhat related to Issue #2602

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Fair point, @ianswett (and others) -- this should be against transport. It's probably worth clarifying that last sentence so it's not confusing to implementers.

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----==_mimepart_5cc8d40fc1814_18db3f9e888cd9607605a-- From nobody Tue Apr 30 16:04:08 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F4391203DE for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2019 16:04:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id X_i9y_fUW1qQ for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2019 16:04:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 88B001200A3 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2019 16:04:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2019 16:04:03 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1556665443; bh=jX61uKL7wz9TpILhIgkWAMlhRb004QX5IZvdHm0mAbA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=JaRurui2Wyq9nJVJ9ThfGfCUKUQGClbnSgh1tC/iVocBnzPKuizn17RVT456t2/Ib vXeMP3MrobtzV0tJGN7mK9+KSLJUE7ha0KqH3fQ7Of41U2I7dlAMT1FYYl4Ko+cAX4 zJEPgM4QA5AIAJmwVOpJy/AmpssjmlzK8+bLDKio= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Stream ID is 62-bits (#2660) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cc8d463ce306_6b413fd03decd964172422"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2019 23:04:06 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cc8d463ce306_6b413fd03decd964172422 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This was suggested for #2499, but never got merged. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2660 -- Commit Summary -- * Suggestion for #2499 * Reorder sentences * Merge branch 'ianswett-close-max-streams' into invalid-stream-id * Merge pull request #2503 from quicwg/invalid-stream-id -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (7) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2660.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2660.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2660 ----==_mimepart_5cc8d463ce306_6b413fd03decd964172422 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

This was suggested for #2499, but never got merged.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2660

Commit Summary

  • Suggestion for #2499
  • Reorder sentences
  • Merge branch 'ianswett-close-max-streams' into invalid-stream-id
  • Merge pull request #2503 from quicwg/invalid-stream-id

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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Apr 30 21:41:44 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 094781200B1 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2019 21:41:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NKEMLcf1rRJm for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2019 21:41:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8EC8D12001E for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2019 21:41:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2019 21:41:40 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1556685700; bh=tuwwmetx7tafgttJECojAaF/ASWoB1dNW8AKTxA4Rak=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=KJldLp8A1hGZASaO4ALkMLIzUL3GpoOtMG4EIqdwaFT5fhApCu+bBkwdexJIvRZzS IIpBpof1PY2ZtIk9WiNo6PZdlyXD+5wyMzL+L4TAKVOOAFK/mwmD6kq50VFwUU1lfp BfqkIzn4uZ/fmkUUIxoRFOeOWfKkvfnP+u27G6X4= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] STREAM_LIMIT_ERROR vs MAX_STREAMS (#2661) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cc923847c04b_18b53fbbed8cd960755f9"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 May 2019 04:41:43 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cc923847c04b_18b53fbbed8cd960755f9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The MAX_STREAMS frame as named as it is, but causes a STREAM_LIMIT_ERROR if violated. It is already confusing that these are accumulative counters (with the largest allowed value being 2^60) so I suggest renaming MAX_STREAMS to STREAM_LIMITS. Alternative rename the error to MAX_STREAM_ERROR, but that would be inconsistent with STREAM_STATE_ERROR. Note that I'm all for the counter design, just the naming is a bit confusing. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2661 ----==_mimepart_5cc923847c04b_18b53fbbed8cd960755f9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The MAX_STREAMS frame as named as it is, but causes a STREAM_LIMIT_ERROR if violated.
It is already confusing that these are accumulative counters (with the largest allowed value being 2^60) so I suggest renaming MAX_STREAMS to STREAM_LIMITS. Alternative rename the error to MAX_STREAM_ERROR, but that would be inconsistent with STREAM_STATE_ERROR.

Note that I'm all for the counter design, just the naming is a bit confusing.

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