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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3577,6 +3588,10 @@ connection IDs gives clients some assurance that the server received the packet
 and that the Version Negotiation packet was not generated by an off-path
 attacker.
 
+As future versions of QUIC may support Connection IDs larger than the version 1
+limit, Version Negotiation Packets will sometimes exceed the Connection ID

s/MAY/could - it's not the place of this specification to give permission to break its own rules.

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Also rebased to hopefully fix the lint errors.

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@ekr commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -disabled for at least one eighth of connections. The selection process performed
-at the beginning of the connection SHOULD be applied for all paths used by the
-connection.
-
-In case multiple connections share the same five-tuple, that is, have the same
-source and destination IP address and UDP ports, endpoints should try to
-co-ordinate across all connections to ensure a clear signal to any on-path
-measurement points.
+disabled for at least one eighth of network paths. The selection process
+performed at the beginning of the connection SHOULD be applied for all paths
+used by the connection.
+
+In case multiple connections share the same network path, as determined by
+having the same source and destination IP address and UDP ports, endpoints
+should try to co-ordinate across all connections to ensure a clear signal to any
+on-path measurement points.

This seems like a classic case of RFC 6919 language. Are any of the implementations which (1) do spin and (2) reuse host ports intending to do this?

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----==_mimepart_5cf303818c1c4_58763ff5fb6cd96088331c-- From nobody Sat Jun 1 16:05:40 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4F081200D6 for ; Sat, 1 Jun 2019 16:05:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.391 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.391 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ibjt7_cLMClf for ; Sat, 1 Jun 2019 16:05:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D392120045 for ; Sat, 1 Jun 2019 16:05:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2019 16:05:37 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1559430337; bh=13XQtKUV9xOb1vpZcNacVIj+4KBcY2AAkuyH/zCNYPM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=rsMXc+F9B9IOitkAxxjNs26EkrOiqPEyrYQ1huoOO4Dpy2Vsv723vw46zATYU6NC1 69ZljhIAqbY7jPCQzq487pomI0xfIIU9BlyjQzGBZqXRpitscr1HmSbR2vbfozuJf9 nZlENzWzPLtxX29YvqZO5g+Dhml2zLpvcj1xd12A= From: ekr Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] NEW_TOKEN should be symmetric (#2760) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cf304c1590c2_7de53f97a8ccd95c5635a6"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ekr X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2019 23:05:40 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cf304c1590c2_7de53f97a8ccd95c5635a6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm skeptical of the value of this change. Any P2P application where the peers are end-user machines is unlikely to need NEW_TOKEN because it will need ICE or something similar for NAT hole punching and that already gives you a liveness check (as well as an RTT estimate) so you don't need NEW_TOKEN. So, this is then limited to P2P protocols where the peers are actually Internet servers that can adopt either role (e.g., SMTP). Those protocols generally don't seem to have super-high latency concerns, so this doesn't seem like it's going to add a lot of value. I agree with Kazuho that it would be better to not do this in v1. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2760#issuecomment-497984204 ----==_mimepart_5cf304c1590c2_7de53f97a8ccd95c5635a6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I'm skeptical of the value of this change.

Any P2P application where the peers are end-user machines is unlikely to need NEW_TOKEN because it will need ICE or something similar for NAT hole punching and that already gives you a liveness check (as well as an RTT estimate) so you don't need NEW_TOKEN. So, this is then limited to P2P protocols where the peers are actually Internet servers that can adopt either role (e.g., SMTP). Those protocols generally don't seem to have super-high latency concerns, so this doesn't seem like it's going to add a lot of value.

I agree with Kazuho that it would be better to not do this in v1.

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Chairs, my assessment is that this is design for sure and maybe quicv2 (on the basis that this isn't needed for h3).

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When multiple connections share the same network path or multiple connection IDs are used for the same path, using the spin bit is complicated by the difficulty in correlating forward and reverse flows. There is currently text that uses RFC 6919 language in the draft recommending coordination of the spin to avoid this problem.

However, as some have observed, this coordination seems difficult and therefore unlikely. It also creates a strong signal that indicates that all the connections on the path are terminated at the same endpoint on both ends. Maybe we don't want to be generating that signal.

Also, because this coordination can't be guaranteed, the on-path observer is forced to build code for correlating/segregating measurements by connection ID in the case where there is no coordination.

Maybe it's best just to remove this recommendation entirely.

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----==_mimepart_5cf469adcfa3f_4b013ff13b8cd964366781-- From nobody Sun Jun 2 17:38:56 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EA811200F4 for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2019 17:38:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.008 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.008 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xybGPlNj8G52 for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2019 17:38:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3EA6012004E for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2019 17:38:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2019 17:38:51 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1559522331; bh=Km4NXKjUG+OFqCiP9g3joYJy0lM0t5pfOwfxqmdIGw4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ISeWg4u6aihxJkNKGde84rNa3CL+3tAgMN5LCctER3h3hJNqOToNw+t3oG1vPAMRO UwMrP3lfybc0RzXeb5zwBO8QImjxAGTUprm4LorX96OC893i7sPQqnTLQ2T/PVHkOO V4lrJZ0udG/F4aAn71jdiU9syHi1BvyBpqPyNpso= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Enable/disable/coordinate spin per path (#2751) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cf46c1b816b4_5613fe90a8cd95c3778f4"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2019 00:38:55 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cf46c1b816b4_5613fe90a8cd95c3778f4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson commented on this pull request. > -disabled for at least one eighth of connections. The selection process performed -at the beginning of the connection SHOULD be applied for all paths used by the -connection. - -In case multiple connections share the same five-tuple, that is, have the same -source and destination IP address and UDP ports, endpoints should try to -co-ordinate across all connections to ensure a clear signal to any on-path -measurement points. +disabled for at least one eighth of network paths. The selection process +performed at the beginning of the connection SHOULD be applied for all paths +used by the connection. + +In case multiple connections share the same network path, as determined by +having the same source and destination IP address and UDP ports, endpoints +should try to co-ordinate across all connections to ensure a clear signal to any +on-path measurement points. I opened #2763 to explore that properly. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2751#discussion_r289664853 ----==_mimepart_5cf46c1b816b4_5613fe90a8cd95c3778f4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@martinthomson commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -disabled for at least one eighth of connections. The selection process performed
-at the beginning of the connection SHOULD be applied for all paths used by the
-connection.
-
-In case multiple connections share the same five-tuple, that is, have the same
-source and destination IP address and UDP ports, endpoints should try to
-co-ordinate across all connections to ensure a clear signal to any on-path
-measurement points.
+disabled for at least one eighth of network paths. The selection process
+performed at the beginning of the connection SHOULD be applied for all paths
+used by the connection.
+
+In case multiple connections share the same network path, as determined by
+having the same source and destination IP address and UDP ports, endpoints
+should try to co-ordinate across all connections to ensure a clear signal to any
+on-path measurement points.

I opened #2763 to explore that properly.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4019,14 +4019,14 @@ to disable the spin bit either globally or on a per-connection basis. Even when
 the spin bit is not disabled by the administrator, implementations MUST disable
 the spin bit for a given connection with a certain likelihood. The random
 selection process SHOULD be designed such that on average the spin bit is
-disabled for at least one eighth of connections. The selection process performed
-at the beginning of the connection SHOULD be applied for all paths used by the
-connection.
-
-In case multiple connections share the same five-tuple, that is, have the same
-source and destination IP address and UDP ports, endpoints should try to
-co-ordinate across all connections to ensure a clear signal to any on-path
-measurement points.
+disabled for at least one eighth of network paths. The selection process

Ian's question is somewhat relevant. If the server changes their mind, then the spin state (spin, not) might change. But that's OK.

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+1 to removing the recommendation, or changing the statement to just a caution (e.g., if you are to coalesce connections that spin, then you'd better be aware of ...).

It also creates a strong signal that indicates that all the connections on the path are terminated at the same endpoint on both ends.

FWIW I am not sure if I agree with this observation. IIUC, the connections sharing a 5-tuple will be terminated by the same endpoint on both ends; it is impossible for a middlebox to coalesce multiple QUIC connections. It is impossible because CIDs can change mid-connection, and a middlebox cannot determine to where the packets containing the new CID must be sent.

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There definitely needs to be a degree of coordination between the middlebox and the endpoints, but that doesn't mean that you can't use something like the quic-lb stuff on either end (or both ends).

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----==_mimepart_5cf47dea70b46_10bc3fae886cd95c136839-- From nobody Sun Jun 2 22:31:09 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04619120116 for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2019 22:31:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NvKMSqGTgGpH for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2019 22:31:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BC2DC12012C for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2019 22:31:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2019 22:31:05 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1559539865; bh=5wWfJRnDdA9FiLmYPLsdG8JR3jEP1DkwjANbaq2rt54=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=lzlAjML+u2qUUhdVj9q7gFcF+8KnsWxhtapmEoZ8OThMFDmn0hEqvTou0+iYYRbRN LY4E/S/18enl69N343wy70jJKPhi4VEfEn5WZWpO2u9xXsufuxpklWDiFDInL+duI5 PgWkgXpnDr3735J4JwF1WEwy1BMTCnGLKmfqle4s= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Mandate allowing peer to create enough unidirectional streams for HTTP and QPACK (#2762) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cf4b09919689_7c573fdbdf8cd96c29605f"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2019 05:31:09 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cf4b09919689_7c573fdbdf8cd96c29605f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kazuho commented on this pull request. > @@ -912,10 +912,20 @@ Endpoints that set low values for the QUIC transport parameters chance that the remote peer reaches the limit early and becomes blocked. In particular, the value chosen for `initial_max_uni_streams` should consider that remote peers may wish to exercise reserved stream behaviour ({{stream-grease}}). -To reduce the likelihood of blocking, both clients and servers SHOULD send a -value of three or greater for the QUIC transport parameter -`initial_max_uni_streams`, and a value of 1,024 or greater for the QUIC -transport parameter `initial_max_stream_data_uni`. +To reduce the likelihood of blocking, both clients and servers MUST allow +the peer to create one unidirectional stream for the HTTP control stream plus Maybe it would be better to state "create _at least_", to avoid the confusion that the endpoints are expected to allow creation *exactly* three streams. > @@ -912,10 +912,20 @@ Endpoints that set low values for the QUIC transport parameters chance that the remote peer reaches the limit early and becomes blocked. In particular, the value chosen for `initial_max_uni_streams` should consider that remote peers may wish to exercise reserved stream behaviour ({{stream-grease}}). -To reduce the likelihood of blocking, both clients and servers SHOULD send a -value of three or greater for the QUIC transport parameter -`initial_max_uni_streams`, and a value of 1,024 or greater for the QUIC -transport parameter `initial_max_stream_data_uni`. +To reduce the likelihood of blocking, both clients and servers MUST allow Maybe replacing "To reduce the likelihood of blocking" with "To avoid blocking" might make sense. This is because there is in practice no chance of seeing the connection being blocked now that the text mandates endpoints allow the necessary number of streams to be open-able. The only case where blocking might still happen is when the peer might grease a unidirectional stream before creating the mandatory streams. 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@kazuho commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -912,10 +912,20 @@ Endpoints that set low values for the QUIC transport parameters
 chance that the remote peer reaches the limit early and becomes blocked. In
 particular, the value chosen for `initial_max_uni_streams` should consider that
 remote peers may wish to exercise reserved stream behaviour ({{stream-grease}}).
-To reduce the likelihood of blocking, both clients and servers SHOULD send a
-value of three or greater for the QUIC transport parameter
-`initial_max_uni_streams`, and a value of 1,024 or greater for the QUIC
-transport parameter `initial_max_stream_data_uni`.
+To reduce the likelihood of blocking, both clients and servers MUST allow
+the peer to create one unidirectional stream for the HTTP control stream plus

Maybe it would be better to state "create at least", to avoid the confusion that the endpoints are expected to allow creation exactly three streams.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -912,10 +912,20 @@ Endpoints that set low values for the QUIC transport parameters
 chance that the remote peer reaches the limit early and becomes blocked. In
 particular, the value chosen for `initial_max_uni_streams` should consider that
 remote peers may wish to exercise reserved stream behaviour ({{stream-grease}}).
-To reduce the likelihood of blocking, both clients and servers SHOULD send a
-value of three or greater for the QUIC transport parameter
-`initial_max_uni_streams`, and a value of 1,024 or greater for the QUIC
-transport parameter `initial_max_stream_data_uni`.
+To reduce the likelihood of blocking, both clients and servers MUST allow

Maybe replacing "To reduce the likelihood of blocking" with "To avoid blocking" might make sense.

This is because there is in practice no chance of seeing the connection being blocked now that the text mandates endpoints allow the necessary number of streams to be open-able. The only case where blocking might still happen is when the peer might grease a unidirectional stream before creating the mandatory streams. But that causing blocking is unrelated to the provision of this paragraph.

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Yes, I think it is better to remove that recommendation, but perhaps replace it with a note to observers.

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When establishing a new connection, how a token was obtained doesn't play any role. Endpoints can distribute tokens by any way they want. NEW_TOKEN frames are just one way to do so, but tokens might as well be distributed out-of-band.

We made a lot of effort to make QUIC as symmetric as possible. The only exceptions are the 0-RTT feature of the handshake (we inherited this from TLS), and connection migration (which would cause a lot of corner cases). I don't understand why the NEW_TOKEN mechanism fits any of these criteria. Conceptionally, if at all, it seems to be less complexity to allow this frame in both directions.

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@marten-seemann while I mostly agree, history suggests that there are subtle details to understand for even the most benign features so adding this not very important feature at this stage for the sake of symmetry may not be the best option. I'd like to see it in v2 though.

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Here's how you might start to think about the problem:

Client: if I were a server, you could use this token (NEW_TOKEN)
Server: if you were which server?

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I would then mark the four least significant bits of the first byte of Retry packets as unused similar to Version Negotiation packets. ``` 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ |1|1| 3 | Unused| +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Version (32) | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | DCIL (8) | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Destination Connection ID (0..384) ... +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | SCIL (8) | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Source Connection ID (0..384) ... +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | ODCIL (8) | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Original Destination Connection ID (0..384) ... +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Retry Token (*) ... +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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This CL also needs to change the encoding of the Original Destination Connection ID Length (ODCIL) in Retry packets. It is currently encoded as the four least significant bits of the first byte and that won't fit anymore. I'd suggest moving ODCIL to be a full byte between the Source Connection ID and the Original Destination Connection ID. I would then mark the four least significant bits of the first byte of Retry packets as unused similar to Version Negotiation packets.

 0                   1                   2                   3
 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|1|1| 3 | Unused|
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|                         Version (32)                          |
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|    DCIL (8)   |
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|               Destination Connection ID (0..384)            ...
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|    SCIL (8)   |
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|                 Source Connection ID (0..384)               ...
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|   ODCIL (8)   |
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|          Original Destination Connection ID (0..384)        ...
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|                        Retry Token (*)                      ...
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

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To clarify @kazuho, by 'this' do you mean the orphan placeholder, weight=0, or both?

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Discussed in London; no action here. The spec is correct to say that stopping a stream mid-frame needs to be an abort, not a clean closure, so the intent is clear.

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----==_mimepart_5cf5473dc2c8d_29683f948f2cd964375176-- From nobody Mon Jun 3 09:14:00 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74E8512049B for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2019 09:13:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Fj8XTA6tfzaO for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2019 09:13:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EE89E12048A for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2019 09:13:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2019 09:13:50 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1559578431; bh=K6zyU2RtpRPVpGk4zbeRpJLt01ubEq5HEaVyZfuiMN4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=um9aGO0NTj6e2kH1m35XS2u6rbmYstmrybiVD3fe3fk97dPQUeMJ2aKC1P2syw4Ch +OPyHO7qsqtOO/4fP0Vci0rvNFMbFLmt0dUMfn1IZw8iTwkTsUZmvtWTzGFJBtBvVw YIqd5OEieTAbQiO7G/qF/Tq7SKPfb1CtYvbkCy6U= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Truncated http stream error handling is aggressive (#2718) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cf5473ee5d47_29453f948f2cd9644780f6"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2019 16:13:54 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cf5473ee5d47_29453f948f2cd9644780f6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Closed #2718. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2718#event-2385455622 ----==_mimepart_5cf5473ee5d47_29453f948f2cd9644780f6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Closed #2718.

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Discussed in London; spec shouldn't prohibit or require any particular value, but should say that these streams have no meaning in the protocol and can only be used by negotiation. If you get one without having negotiated their use, it's a connection error.

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Discussed in London; Alt-Svc already specifies what to do if an alternative fails to connect successfully (regardless of what error code gets used) and HTTP already provides a status code for upstream connection issues. Nothing new is needed here.

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Closed #2699.

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Discussed in London; we should do this, but @LPardue will follow up with the list in a discussion about the overall error code set and how they're grouped/used.

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----==_mimepart_5cf548c2d1e5e_60c43f8dd88cd96c47269c-- From nobody Mon Jun 3 09:22:51 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07B69120447 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2019 09:22:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id z00XPB70uFwN for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2019 09:22:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5E8BB120444 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2019 09:22:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2019 09:22:46 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1559578966; bh=pHruE+6/krUiCpxBh3HfeSKvxaQI2vAbQzwNx1LflHY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=vo0/ax4C0161WzRpOgQ75sP2hEZ/roRKQSkOy0n2MF0p4iliNVExDea9b+g6ou1Ty TipPbgblC09nTUbV3P44f9Wt56wDiQPDzUSbnv8+4U3RP+FxYbIK+flCqSzz5y4OXj yrTF9iSwwktlD/oIQGH6KZcG8qmfIuqtZCpcKzIs= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Semantics of SETTINGS_MAX_HEADER_LIST_SIZE (#2516) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cf549564ea71_65763fc6e1ccd96c3537b4"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2019 16:22:49 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cf549564ea71_65763fc6e1ccd96c3537b4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Discussed in London; an implementation SHOULD NOT send its peer a message that's over the peer's advertised size. Text clarifying that the peer is advertising the (approximate) limit at which it will refuse to accept a message, enabling the local implementation to fail more quickly and avoid the risk that the "refusal" might be a connection termination which would disrupt legitimate messages as well. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2516#issuecomment-498327244 ----==_mimepart_5cf549564ea71_65763fc6e1ccd96c3537b4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Discussed in London; an implementation SHOULD NOT send its peer a message that's over the peer's advertised size. Text clarifying that the peer is advertising the (approximate) limit at which it will refuse to accept a message, enabling the local implementation to fail more quickly and avoid the risk that the "refusal" might be a connection termination which would disrupt legitimate messages as well.

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Discussed in London; generalize to a "SETTINGS error" which covers multiple ways you can screw up the SETTINGS frame. This is one of them.

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As long as it isn't a MUST. There might be pre-canned requested of a reasonable size that generally just works, and having to check these might not be worthwhile on the odd chance of a very restrictive peer.

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Discussed in London; there's no reason to reduce in value on an ordered stream (which presumably has synchronized access already). The proposal of HTTP_ERROR_YOU_ARE_AN_IDIOT was likely facetious, but PROTOCOL_VIOLATION serves the same purpose.

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Closed #2412.

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----==_mimepart_5cf54a30ea8b0_30ad3f824e4cd960692852-- From nobody Mon Jun 3 09:27:15 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5E2D1205D7 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2019 09:27:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QlrUDgCrZHip for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2019 09:27:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-17.smtp.github.com (out-17.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 151401204B0 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2019 09:27:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2019 09:27:06 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1559579226; bh=2QSlN13SFBl/WaZlXcXlDdj97bBVxzNOZj9GczhP+sg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=cRqzaUU5DbIjjTsd7YvLWFYVh6COc5EvvNtNqFqTlm0E5Pi8ftJGB49verrZV3hM8 /bDz/2Ug4c+UX0ehKPQ7PXyV5+ru/0tAH+J4SAvwNdb+a7wlXsvKEjUph7HFM7HJI9 TycQ8yR0DvvRdvAMODEOSqpLpJGzl0/v8zbeVzFs= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] H3 guidance on malformed request/response is light (#2410) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cf54a5a24ca0_688d3fddd0ecd96446055d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2019 16:27:14 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cf54a5a24ca0_688d3fddd0ecd96446055d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Discussed in London; restate them with care. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2410#issuecomment-498328852 ----==_mimepart_5cf54a5a24ca0_688d3fddd0ecd96446055d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Discussed in London; restate them with care.

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----==_mimepart_5cf54a5a24ca0_688d3fddd0ecd96446055d-- From nobody Mon Jun 3 09:29:01 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A09371204DA for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2019 09:28:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MJH82qf99FTA for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2019 09:28:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F1AA51204D4 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2019 09:28:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2019 09:28:57 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1559579337; bh=nrCuPVWTS9SNjcIWUhoRcKmz3bYjxv2hzH1xCapOD8w=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=hGuMeNomz/4KYUwaM4nU84+fbx2YETl9FgsSRrpcJN3cRPxVykzEQWkNd/NMaJWPN vm/Z7ZPs0zAb7VKlC8g5PpIUhDSX8SyTc8BwqQKDfXT4HbZNCKAPKn2qGCbyfszgls 7ooUWemJvaHhHg/zInj+WRe1CvyGFtrusT6VmzQU= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] SHOULD for using PRIORITY (#2697) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cf54ac93bda_7fc3fda40ecd95c4025d5"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2019 16:29:00 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cf54ac93bda_7fc3fda40ecd95c4025d5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Discussed in London; MUST behave on servers isn't an option, and MUST send on clients isn't in keeping with our charter. Add prose on why implementing is a really, really good idea and defer to HTTPbis for any substantive changes to PRIORITY. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2697#issuecomment-498329584 ----==_mimepart_5cf54ac93bda_7fc3fda40ecd95c4025d5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Discussed in London; MUST behave on servers isn't an option, and MUST send on clients isn't in keeping with our charter. Add prose on why implementing is a really, really good idea and defer to HTTPbis for any substantive changes to PRIORITY.

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----==_mimepart_5cf54ac93bda_7fc3fda40ecd95c4025d5-- From nobody Mon Jun 3 09:30:16 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E87001204FC for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2019 09:30:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HoInnvy71ipr for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2019 09:30:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6B78D1204DA for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2019 09:30:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2019 09:30:11 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1559579411; bh=YzeWqQUY2wFVvyTcD+VGib+oxQ0d6YbMYwh8++c1MkM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Defctn6iPP4gHrLaJImMzviw8S5NRFQyas2kQN0H8AsaLw6HBn68KoXJJ5kLGlrcB FMErZiWE4WNxQ+FV12e132kAmgvFLLFeY3MmiqezQqc9Eaq6G4RowRlgiGjZEVkIK6 nHiZZgoZypthNbANNbJCsT/B8WWyQmv7fQcFmb30= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] MAX_PUSH_ID: lower-than-previous value conn error seems too severe (#2412) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cf54b136a0fa_7983ff2bf8cd95c380aa"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2019 16:30:14 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cf54b136a0fa_7983ff2bf8cd95c380aa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You mean HTTP_GENERAL_PROTOCOL_ERROR? I don't think it is appropriate to send QUIC transport errors for application protocol errors. Perhaps we need language for this? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2412#issuecomment-498330021 ----==_mimepart_5cf54b136a0fa_7983ff2bf8cd95c380aa Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

You mean HTTP_GENERAL_PROTOCOL_ERROR? I don't think it is appropriate to send QUIC transport errors for application protocol errors. Perhaps we need language for this?

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----==_mimepart_5cf54b136a0fa_7983ff2bf8cd95c380aa-- From nobody Mon Jun 3 09:31:50 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 336CF1204FC for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2019 09:31:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.605 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.605 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kOyeoRsqJqig for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2019 09:31:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A89621204A7 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2019 09:31:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2019 09:31:46 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1559579506; bh=l3k5yIjNpmMc4SS38kTXvl9zzwEPmlVYL4QBImyIpkE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=0um/CeCK89TdK3wRBamUp/FjbTQDvCIwXoxxVoNUuNd++twMmNZBlB5oYs3ILcmFb 9jSZ8W4Ak8Ne/H8HQ/EPldkZlgQds4ht9DhAP4UsgEY+2WTTH8fHvapOjGcluc28jd UH3hEaTAvh5jacNUU4zGHinQZpNBWXk4vZp2aYVQ= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] PRIORITY frame on control stream referencing unopened request stream (#2502) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cf54b728bbc3_75cb3ffb824cd96c64791"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2019 16:31:49 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cf54b728bbc3_75cb3ffb824cd96c64791 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Discussed in London; fix this via #2690, which makes #2754 palatable, which lets us restore exclusive priorities. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2502#issuecomment-498330525 ----==_mimepart_5cf54b728bbc3_75cb3ffb824cd96c64791 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Discussed in London; fix this via #2690, which makes #2754 palatable, which lets us restore exclusive priorities.

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Discussed in London; no.

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Closed #2678.

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Discussed in London; no.

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Closed #2526.

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HTTP isn't under new process yet, which means we can just close without a consensus call.

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Closed #2488.

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----==_mimepart_5cf54bf3b0b6c_3fd73ffa5d8cd95c66514-- From nobody Mon Jun 3 09:34:41 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5699120605 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2019 09:34:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9ObY2fDgwZBk for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2019 09:34:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-11.smtp.github.com (out-11.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB8A01205F3 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2019 09:34:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2019 09:34:34 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1559579674; bh=LZqNpxP7LiAtw76IF69Fvvx1quvdKHgjoca/L15RsjY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=k2Xc4csPqA6+kA994GHj4MQoD/fWn5uznOJAPCtbuAoHKpYLqkA/ogLKI75j7dXV5 9oayTADKd/2Cks3VTU/JXf/UBhGI/Qji6CBddyDIL0XmyMWXF+5GXU1zx7nLeAIOh7 ApC6eSQQVHSrpTnr/ij3BTHyfCXg+v43o40gs+gI= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Provide address validation token in Alt-Svc (#2488) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cf54c1abbbc_7c193ffd090cd9601113d3"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2019 16:34:40 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cf54c1abbbc_7c193ffd090cd9601113d3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Also, note that consensus in London was that @lnicco can write an Alt-Svc extension for this if he'd like to experiment. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2488#issuecomment-498331633 ----==_mimepart_5cf54c1abbbc_7c193ffd090cd9601113d3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Also, note that consensus in London was that @lnicco can write an Alt-Svc extension for this if he'd like to experiment.

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Discussed in London; reference 8164 and require the same check when sending a scheme other than "https."

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Discussed in London; also blocked on httpwg/http-core#194 defining how a client decides which connection / server to ask for a given resource.

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Discussed in London; still waiting for text from httpwg/http-core#194.

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I think you mean @ghedo

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Closing; please reopen if you feel that #2701 does not sufficiently address this.

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----==_mimepart_5cf567fada33e_a0c3fbc5b6cd96c7471cb-- From nobody Mon Jun 3 11:36:57 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5F14120140 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2019 11:36:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.391 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.391 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Gi8uCqEdiZh2 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2019 11:36:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC17B120124 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2019 11:36:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2019 11:36:51 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1559587011; bh=O8XPVo2f2KZj9CUNQn47ZSaY9ztR+t0pRtU7hJDH348=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=oulqV9lVO0AB8dYQOpEDn0d7+WpEgVGM+utjHJ/pGxI1AiU3GxP+YQVbddqtxXfIM x/4RuhNfOWiAtMUBMbQI7OuHcRiVjs6YEyRKYYBxFdz1DjABsNjIKgFZzBEXo7ckct FbeAFztOOCWJjgqYhtatwLtDPyyiYg0K4kLBkmSE= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Consider a new stream type to act like MAX_PUSH_ID (#2418) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cf568c3b9c44_28843fbb6accd96c1666e8"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2019 18:36:55 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cf568c3b9c44_28843fbb6accd96c1666e8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Discussed in London as part of the #2678 conversation; we'll leave this as-is for now. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2418#issuecomment-498375166 ----==_mimepart_5cf568c3b9c44_28843fbb6accd96c1666e8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Discussed in London as part of the #2678 conversation; we'll leave this as-is for now.

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----==_mimepart_5cf568c4453c4_64773f86258cd9683862f9-- From nobody Mon Jun 3 11:40:53 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF3E512007C for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2019 11:40:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.806 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.806 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.415, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xVEEIfJokG1x for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2019 11:40:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1CE1E120123 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2019 11:40:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2019 11:40:44 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1559587244; bh=fQLCN/41DhxBV57qsNFTecAqVAWO51uVseuZukdSq54=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=CfiXmZR/jWt1ylRYnvquItobUeUftkcL1eccI/TB1N1Vd0TWXQUjNIaMA2YHFI62w iDH9IIpLkaTCofPsNsgvrfjOtPzt7J9STZygBeGN6SaJxJH2cv1aMkIG6hP2uJgN2U zH7sSpwGmLJaXQmBTRhMdOwYonpoGN9aywymqqLI= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/3 TLV length description is no longer precise (#2429) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cf569acc81af_c6d3feaa44cd960323776"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2019 18:40:52 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cf569acc81af_c6d3feaa44cd960323776 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This may be OBE. Looking at the current version, it says: ``` A frame includes the following fields: Type: : A variable-length integer that identifies the frame type. Length: : A variable-length integer that describes the length of the Frame Payload. Frame Payload: : A payload, the semantics of which are determined by the Type field. ``` This appears to be fairly precise -- the Length field describes the length of the Frame Payload, which is a specified region of the frame. I'm not inclined to add further disclaimers around what "length" means unless others feel it's unclear. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2429#issuecomment-498376555 ----==_mimepart_5cf569acc81af_c6d3feaa44cd960323776 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

This may be OBE. Looking at the current version, it says:

A frame includes the following fields:

  Type:
  : A variable-length integer that identifies the frame type.

  Length:
  : A variable-length integer that describes the length of the Frame Payload.

  Frame Payload:
  : A payload, the semantics of which are determined by the Type field.

This appears to be fairly precise -- the Length field describes the length of the Frame Payload, which is a specified region of the frame. I'm not inclined to add further disclaimers around what "length" means unless others feel it's unclear.

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Curious, why wasn't this listed under draft-20 C.1? https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-recovery-20#appendix-C.1

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----==_mimepart_5cf582e3c5689_50153fe5370cd9686728f-- From nobody Mon Jun 3 13:29:47 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 508EC12084E for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2019 13:29:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.007 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.007 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dgif1KpUt5RX for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2019 13:29:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 87FDB120842 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2019 13:29:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2019 13:29:42 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1559593782; bh=Wfde2h0MPIxi3W5ppnpochNCVvnUazB8ikdRdRy+VQw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=axLjtAsyKbJfvECmWFr/hLbtK/JVvAlQCmajGw4YtxVhNd1fnWI7OmM+43Y27IbEi wwgnuFxhNO7BpJdqxurk3d7sHmjNQSDoNXoo3f7x2EUeim+bp8mQD0LuAljIAmDb63 la233hSWoNHNtsRvQLj/VHAOf9MFIPLctiRd2D4A= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Import malformed message text (#2764) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cf58336cf3f4_2a43fe78fecd96410384b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2019 20:29:46 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cf58336cf3f4_2a43fe78fecd96410384b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fixes #2410 by importing the RFC7540 malformed request/response text. This section is general enough, it doesn't appear to have much in the way of difference between HTTP/2 and HTTP/3. Are there things we should trim out, or conditions that we need to spell out in more detail? You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2764 -- Commit Summary -- * Import malformed message text -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (31) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2764.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2764.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2764 ----==_mimepart_5cf58336cf3f4_2a43fe78fecd96410384b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Fixes #2410 by importing the RFC7540 malformed request/response text. This section is general enough, it doesn't appear to have much in the way of difference between HTTP/2 and HTTP/3. Are there things we should trim out, or conditions that we need to spell out in more detail?

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2764

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  • Import malformed message text

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During the London interim, it was noted that error codes refer to things being "malformed," "bad," and "invalid." Pick one and use it consistently. This applies to both the current document and #2662.

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Commit: a16744366973b7e50b9f531f6e919fa39d142358 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a16744366973b7e50b9f531f6e919fa39d142358 Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2019-06-03 (Mon, 03 Jun 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #2747 from quicwg/one-per-level Recommend only one packet per encryption level Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/9a6cce463a03...a16744366973 From nobody Mon Jun 3 19:30:29 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3C091200F5 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2019 19:30:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.806 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.806 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.415, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hsr21L_XzIKe for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2019 19:30:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A882312004B for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2019 19:30:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2019 19:30:25 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1559615425; bh=RjSRrO92RkiS6QolB9mQt69xk+yJXGwUIRo2GUGXZvY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=gSAgb8FG8MuxyXvVenXBI0TmLbvqKuLw973w0sEW9vXCtmKoS/UBJZtr3tg4go1s9 NKL1UiwajsAknILPkNr/kPlW8M8OSSGI+SV2Go+zO5Jd9vdX7YV0GaURkgD08kAAEG okeX20h/8MmiEhLg4Qjz3Vsl2XCN+mtmSxy7uT3Q= From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] handling of coalesced packets with decryption errors creates DoS opportunity (#2308) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cf5d7c15449d_50ee3fe69a0cd9681690e1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2019 02:30:29 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cf5d7c15449d_50ee3fe69a0cd9681690e1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Closed #2308 via #2747. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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----==_mimepart_5cf5d94a5d9c2_48bd3faa52acd9601592de-- From nobody Mon Jun 3 19:37:16 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D117412010F for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2019 19:37:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id y01grOugTlkp for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2019 19:37:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-10.smtp.github.com (out-10.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3A5091200F5 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2019 19:37:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2019 19:37:12 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1559615832; bh=BvklLXzA4y+cpX7xkl1Uz7hf2QI7LCz8y7JXSwWXUUU=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=ZQ/EUstVAuj3AJ+TUEz4KRd+A8eHEkgLwxYJB1xjpJU/L+kobZzFCF7XUaiB2Hutk oXVHzDVvxLJJbejHjj9+FohDnp1imZ7PBjWoeFLZsMd0edjFLkiRZSqglnVU3xWPyx n5FunCpgxCe9decUhWjkj7txppKquAgTQhCQunps= From: Jana Iyengar To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] f434be: Allow reuse of stateless reset tokens Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2019 02:37:15 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: f434be22d42d61e6b5f02b17c9531f3e4ab710e1 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f434be22d42d61e6b5f02b17c9531f3e4ab710e1 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-05-21 (Tue, 21 May 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Allow reuse of stateless reset tokens This came up as the result of an incomplete implementation, but there are - maybe - good reasons to have the same stateless reset token being used for multiple connection IDs on the same connection. There are drawbacks however. Reuse of a stateless reset token means that you have to remember (and consistently route) connection IDs, even when they are retired. This text makes a note of the possibility and explains the drawbacks. Closes #2732. Commit: a5bcc0b9f5c00113a15b32bac26db9d148c4bcb3 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a5bcc0b9f5c00113a15b32bac26db9d148c4bcb3 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-05-22 (Wed, 22 May 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Fixup of reset-oracle links Commit: 6d614fa63d5293e59d78777068658c24b5fe1919 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6d614fa63d5293e59d78777068658c24b5fe1919 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-05-22 (Wed, 22 May 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Edit for clarity Commit: 5201e2e0524413b885af92c93245f98caef1675c https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5201e2e0524413b885af92c93245f98caef1675c Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-05-22 (Wed, 22 May 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- More editorial hacking; this is complex Commit: b645d79f3fafce73b96af5b2c3bcf7368f7a2571 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b645d79f3fafce73b96af5b2c3bcf7368f7a2571 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-05-22 (Wed, 22 May 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Try again Commit: 7fdaf76f37d45ae278cc2042bb92218106bea1a3 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7fdaf76f37d45ae278cc2042bb92218106bea1a3 Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2019-06-03 (Mon, 03 Jun 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Commit: 3a2ff52410f7335b0ac53f5cb3d456cb1f4f201f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3a2ff52410f7335b0ac53f5cb3d456cb1f4f201f Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2019-06-03 (Mon, 03 Jun 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #2733 from quicwg/srt-same Allow reuse of stateless reset tokens Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/4c95c0ccef9a...3a2ff52410f7 From nobody Mon Jun 3 19:37:24 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FF7D12011A for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2019 19:37:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.391 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.391 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pd_yTKa3-lJo for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2019 19:37:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1214C1200F5 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2019 19:37:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2019 19:37:19 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1559615839; bh=ribBrl5d6LH90Uq38g6d5MmG/ds5k5wA9fJLdDYQdy4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=KdBsGSgEabPXn6nTaHPj9RTuaeKXImRkZngFoM9l7LPYcfVsPn7u39b4pkd2XZ0lZ dEJFUEXCKUSBBAGs3XAyyfJWsQdBeD2P7rUYDrIcB/nAGF2s4b/ixzR/wft012jXIu KdDyjMdPNP5S5HBwytQUDzh++sgoqozBqI5Ns26g= From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Reusing SRTs (#2732) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cf5d95f254a_50ea3fe69a0cd968120735"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2019 02:37:23 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cf5d95f254a_50ea3fe69a0cd968120735 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Closed #2732 via #2733. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Fixes #2672 Commit: 10176ae9245d406729b263a3c14994618d484c81 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/10176ae9245d406729b263a3c14994618d484c81 Author: ianswett Date: 2019-05-09 (Thu, 09 May 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Commit: 44f7c59ecf8e13640bd63ffd38a56b3e41716694 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/44f7c59ecf8e13640bd63ffd38a56b3e41716694 Author: ianswett Date: 2019-05-10 (Fri, 10 May 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Martin's comments Commit: 6e404dea448afe44136a1b612e21ae009c82c395 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6e404dea448afe44136a1b612e21ae009c82c395 Author: ianswett Date: 2019-05-10 (Fri, 10 May 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- Fix http error code registry length Commit: b8284eb5f7af3d781bf6eaa1e1bfa8e8fa1424b1 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b8284eb5f7af3d781bf6eaa1e1bfa8e8fa1424b1 Author: ianswett Date: 2019-05-10 (Fri, 10 May 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Co-Authored-By: Mike Bishop Commit: 6e0f8c85c13cec1723598180b310602c1f23e79d https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6e0f8c85c13cec1723598180b310602c1f23e79d Author: ianswett Date: 2019-05-10 (Fri, 10 May 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Mike's suggestion, carrying -> containing Commit: 0fd9989e4ef297e48c917497a7c15980bb0dd822 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0fd9989e4ef297e48c917497a7c15980bb0dd822 Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2019-06-03 (Mon, 03 Jun 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #2680 from quicwg/ianswett-varint-error-codes Change error codes from 16-bit to varints Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/3a2ff52410f7...0fd9989e4ef2 From nobody Mon Jun 3 19:38:14 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8482D12011A for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2019 19:38:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.806 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.806 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.415, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YbufKKcatFwA for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2019 19:38:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2A9CF1200F5 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2019 19:38:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2019 19:38:07 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1559615887; bh=owiSVdmW16BkGn89eGm8oYTggYQbtBe97wdq4G1lOZ8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ZMihz3jUR5cZ/N7sgOXn+ViTlgLA8THYQJSFyqlFj3AMQyJ0pRA0ecG1DK/utFSO9 0qmFtuEx8wemBCLSD1SQRersP00521XQHYEU2oVRFx94p8Kvl5+S7dLysV2Rx1/yox uG3BEmp1MB8mq65lUg0oPZLCmmhGHqUB+N3ESrWg= From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Change error codes from 16-bit to varints (#2680) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cf5d98fceff4_51a23fe69a0cd9682311d1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2019 02:38:11 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cf5d98fceff4_51a23fe69a0cd9682311d1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Merged #2680 into master. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak06jZKFwY0GGGVr8ECIuIYVQzzWn1z63HLur1 P5MySYxVZFiT/vqO4FChxY65SLa7rh97v5rHzai2/UwMnYqGcvx6sHL0n7N1SAV+nJyM4w2Nfsl8Z+ Rg9OklCUxgGly5XFbGCw3D6s14uNpUwzxzIC9mHcvOKsAhzOn+/oNY6Lrw== Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2019 02:39:29 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: 60f79cc60dce823025871e7df83f31111aff2dca https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/60f79cc60dce823025871e7df83f31111aff2dca Author: Eric Kinnear Date: 2019-03-28 (Thu, 28 Mar 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Stop requiring source address to match on path responses Clarify definition of endpoint address to match previous definition in path validation Change to require path validation on any NAT rebinding Commit: 4b9c212e8b7b54f213b812b4233ec9e330403f3f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4b9c212e8b7b54f213b812b4233ec9e330403f3f Author: Eric Kinnear Date: 2019-04-17 (Wed, 17 Apr 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge branch 'master' into validation_source_address Commit: d4926d28d4424f0b405c5000f8e51b0af8b42257 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d4926d28d4424f0b405c5000f8e51b0af8b42257 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-05-01 (Wed, 01 May 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Review comment redefining endpoint address Co-Authored-By: erickinnear <32474881+erickinnear@users.noreply.github.com> Commit: 1e74be464007c1634455e76bedd558a5292fdddb https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1e74be464007c1634455e76bedd558a5292fdddb Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-05-08 (Wed, 08 May 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Remove extra requirement Commit: a9fb45aaf09b85706cb988c6a866b075eb94f1e2 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a9fb45aaf09b85706cb988c6a866b075eb94f1e2 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-05-08 (Wed, 08 May 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Delete contradictory text Now that we don't require that PATH_RESPONSE follow the path of the PATH_CHALLENGE, no sense in requiring here. 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[ci skip] From nobody Mon Jun 3 19:48:12 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D830120139 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2019 19:48:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id E1AfsVa5fTOY for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2019 19:48:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 105D1120075 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2019 19:48:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2019 19:48:07 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1559616487; bh=v8TK+/TbOMHk9hLfD+BxKnFQhE4Jk1aAcyrwn4NpPN8=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=vjEwJUfWCJmGzhglFGMjgFoDzjMUmcySloZAywZCuiNo+Ttid3ZuuySMIn+bpvt6b O6maA+koF6QXN2jmx7wZAT3BGAQ1MJ53qIJrL+Tnqv8594KU3Epyg11n9d1DYDBD+C KG4dV8IHLBDKAI0F2hcCKl1WrTk7UvoRXO2qVAMM= From: Jana Iyengar To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] 50a2b1: 0-RTT can't use transport parameters or 1-RTT frames Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2019 02:48:11 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: 50a2b121866a8de0352b726645e74f87a20444cf https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/50a2b121866a8de0352b726645e74f87a20444cf Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-02-13 (Wed, 13 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- 0-RTT can't use transport parameters or 1-RTT frames While in theory a client could send 0-RTT after receiving 1-RTT, this is not a good idea. This PR ties down transport parameters and flow control and prevents a client from using anything it learns in the handshake or 1-RTT from affecting (or expanding) what it can do with 0-RTT. This prevents a client from using 0-RTT indefinitely and creates stronger bounds on what 0-RTT can be used for. Closes #2458, #2360. Commit: 683c33ca20260aae56b22910bad7f112745076a3 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/683c33ca20260aae56b22910bad7f112745076a3 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-02-13 (Wed, 13 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Add error condition Commit: 50b8e85285ba333798cdc083b62608766a37cbe3 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/50b8e85285ba333798cdc083b62608766a37cbe3 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-02-13 (Wed, 13 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- More clarity Commit: fff940e2a6fcd80adc9cd696052970f6ca0617aa https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/fff940e2a6fcd80adc9cd696052970f6ca0617aa Author: MikkelFJ Date: 2019-02-14 (Thu, 14 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- decontraction Co-Authored-By: martinthomson Commit: 1c9fcc313fa887226283627b0e9fa0916a9c8942 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1c9fcc313fa887226283627b0e9fa0916a9c8942 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-02-14 (Thu, 14 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Add an allowance for server error Commit: 9ff2ebf35b10389ef9395fed1118f5de13dd06bc https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9ff2ebf35b10389ef9395fed1118f5de13dd06bc Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-04-10 (Wed, 10 Apr 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Editorial comments from @janaiyengar Commit: ed6a8795f9add34d02b9b3df31dd1f0fe3d50950 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ed6a8795f9add34d02b9b3df31dd1f0fe3d50950 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-04-14 (Sun, 14 Apr 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- s/send/sent Commit: 0944d13bb4c768b231119bcaf3768027eb0e8e24 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0944d13bb4c768b231119bcaf3768027eb0e8e24 Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2019-04-24 (Wed, 24 Apr 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- recommend enforcement of 0-RTT flow control Co-Authored-By: martinthomson Commit: 5154c38410356713c88d017289c7014ce1b3c591 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5154c38410356713c88d017289c7014ce1b3c591 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-04-24 (Wed, 24 Apr 2019) Changed paths: M CONTRIBUTING.md M README.md M draft-ietf-quic-http.md M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md R draft-ietf-quic-spin-exp.md M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md M tag.sh Log Message: ----------- Merge branch 'master' into 0rtt-cant-respond-to-1rtt Commit: f661b8b15fa1bba2f479a99a29dfb75a5d5534d1 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f661b8b15fa1bba2f479a99a29dfb75a5d5534d1 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-04-24 (Wed, 24 Apr 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Wrap Commit: 08692908e709617d9be705cfe25d12316621cf53 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/08692908e709617d9be705cfe25d12316621cf53 Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2019-06-03 (Mon, 03 Jun 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #2461 from quicwg/0rtt-cant-respond-to-1rtt 0-RTT can't use transport parameters or 1-RTT frames Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/bceffd54d818...08692908e709 From nobody Mon Jun 3 19:48:19 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47BBA120161 for ; 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@ianswett

To clarify @kazuho, by 'this' do you mean the orphan placeholder, weight=0, or both?

We've implemented the orphan placeholder (i.e. what the PR now suggests). Weight=0 no longer used in the text proposed by this PR.

FWIW, our HTTP/3 implementation with support for prioritization can be found at h2o/h2o#1846 (specifically lib/http3/server.c deals with the prioritization tree, while lib/http2/scheduler.c is the scheduler itself), the most relevant commits related to orphan placeholder being e117fe9, 1280409, d8b187d.

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----==_mimepart_5cf5dfd360bf6_415e3fd0d08cd968306687-- From nobody Mon Jun 3 20:44:43 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 408D712004B for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2019 20:44:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.008 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.008 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZVzM-m8Ywndn for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2019 20:44:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 180AF120033 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2019 20:44:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2019 20:44:37 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1559619877; bh=GXPuFAENsZhUxY2NjF1usw7vkucSBlnzRgsrc0ujJ2g=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=iv7KR77Nqee7Wh5o/vR9jFt9tB/uOjRNlmPM2Tm+60luutvkTu5/XQAoK9k61qCxT TUjSod2xQ70r217VwP8YesuKf4qzJ3AMA6KsCp/m5w5/w5dFAdMMn5yov3iNAHV6jR qY1gLXpiG/7Jp7TPGrrwiK+eiyJ9QtY92VxHnXYw= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] allow PRIORITY frames referring to placeholders exceeding `SETTING_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` (#2761) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cf5e925c97b1_31503fafa7acd9608228f"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2019 03:44:42 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cf5e925c97b1_31503fafa7acd9608228f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @ghedo > TBH at this point I'd rather spend time exploring the discussion about limiting or even removing placeholders as we talked about in London (including talking with HTTPbis) rather than try to hack around all of these problems. It is my view that we should continue refining the prioritization scheme of HTTP/3, though I would not argue for suppressing any other discussion. The concern of redesigning the prioritization scheme is that the standardization process might get delayed. We do not have a working group consensus on what the goal of the design would be. Compared to that, making changes to lessen the divergence from the prioritization scheme of HTTP/2 _is_ in line with the charter, it is a goal that does not move, and we know how to reintroduce the exclusive bit (see #2754). This PR is a small change that we _might_ adopt alongside other changes that lessen the divergence. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2761#issuecomment-498509101 ----==_mimepart_5cf5e925c97b1_31503fafa7acd9608228f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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TBH at this point I'd rather spend time exploring the discussion about limiting or even removing placeholders as we talked about in London (including talking with HTTPbis) rather than try to hack around all of these problems.

It is my view that we should continue refining the prioritization scheme of HTTP/3, though I would not argue for suppressing any other discussion.

The concern of redesigning the prioritization scheme is that the standardization process might get delayed. We do not have a working group consensus on what the goal of the design would be. Compared to that, making changes to lessen the divergence from the prioritization scheme of HTTP/2 is in line with the charter, it is a goal that does not move, and we know how to reintroduce the exclusive bit (see #2754). This PR is a small change that we might adopt alongside other changes that lessen the divergence.

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However, to support your argument, it may be better to ignore all priority tree requests rather than fail e.g. half of them. And because the server doesn't know how many placeholders the client wants, it can never guess how many would be enough, ever.

Yeah. I think that the anticipation behind this PR is that a server would either support no placeholders at all, or be capable of handling enough number of placeholders. FWIW, Firefox uses 4 "placeholders" in HTTP/2. I do not think that there would be a reason for a HTTP/3 with support for placeholders to support something below 4.

Maybe we should change the recommendation of SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS that state "this value SHOULD be set to a non-zero value by servers" to "this value SHOULD be set to a value equal to or greater than four" or something alike.

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The three words are not equivalent: while both "malformed" and "invalid" are "bad," "malformed" is not the same as "invalid."

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Both QPACK settings specify the maximum value the decoder supports. The encoder is free to pick and use a smaller value. There is no reason to add artificial limits to the way an encoder is implemented.

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Minor correction here, "bad" is only used in #2662. The only instance of "bad" in current document is a substring of example "0x1abadaba"

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----==_mimepart_5cf662208c2d5_7dc03fca8dccd96c147937-- From nobody Tue Jun 4 05:38:36 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9478D120058 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2019 05:38:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.008 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.008 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dLNDw1kSdsRq for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2019 05:38:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o4.sgmail.github.com (o4.sgmail.github.com [192.254.112.99]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3D25912002E for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2019 05:38:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=moxFg922fTn9XfyVltJDpr0aVa4=; b=qvGKWmCX+dkThYUx XJ7RzTeTtKNazOTxboxmO99tPqbXhy5+YprOlJwfb5n1bVo2PD1s5PY6D1o3NCv4 ER40FbsJ/a96HDvD/ock8bOPe3kLYaN3ljzFSTGdlf6dQoSGAsBQm+hyk+YxHp0O iV/VNZGFbEVqG6+1GQZXc11w5Qk= Received: by filter0456p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0456p1iad2-16319-5CF66648-18 2019-06-04 12:38:32.379015158 +0000 UTC m=+490087.947928361 Received: from github-lowworker-819f804.cp1-iad.github.net (unknown [140.82.115.8]) by ismtpd0025p1mdw1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id A-8V_geLRcGfSHHNeWlyNA for ; Tue, 04 Jun 2019 12:38:32.272 +0000 (UTC) Received: from github.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by github-lowworker-819f804.cp1-iad.github.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F53A3601AD for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2019 05:38:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2019 12:38:32 +0000 (UTC) From: Dmitri Tikhonov Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Drop maximum value restrictions on QPACK settings (#2767) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cf666482db86_280d3fd1b68cd968258392"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: dtikhonov X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak2JIL8upN+xGwT2jJ7+4boPSTcrsBpWTTSCbb zjqt/T2veVOsW6YbrXOmT9evtMLWeFbul2etbWl983xqsmzK7+d+8utGuOaEbBJ5CkMl1DUKdUOqJp NNUdOfcp6bMHOETAw2hP63ytGwG3xDRAAiwAtis2DLpN6TPNLWs8v0WZhJdP07AbyCLyUGQjvskUtf g= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2019 12:38:35 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cf666482db86_280d3fd1b68cd968258392 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In addition, remove verbiage stating that the settings values are integers, as the are integers by the definition of the _SETTINGS_ frame. Closes #2766. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2767 -- Commit Summary -- * Drop maximum value restrictions on QPACK settings -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md (8) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2767.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2767.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2767 ----==_mimepart_5cf666482db86_280d3fd1b68cd968258392 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

In addition, remove verbiage stating that the settings values are integers, as the are integers by the definition of the SETTINGS frame.

Closes #2766.

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@DavidSchinazi Nice catch. It should be fixed now.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 ODCIL:
 
-: The four least-significant bits of the first byte of a Retry packet are not
-  protected as they are for other packets with the long header, because Retry
-  packets don't contain a protected payload.  These bits instead encode the
-  length of the Original Destination Connection ID field.  The length uses the
-  same encoding as the DCIL and SCIL fields.
+: These bits the length of the Original Destination Connection ID field.  The

Typo These bits the length

How about mimicking the SCIL field description?

ODCIL:

  The byte following the Source Connection ID contains the length in bytes
  of the Original Destination Connection ID field that follows it.  This length
  is encoded as a 8-bit unsigned integer.  In QUIC version 1, this value
  MUST NOT exceed 48 bytes.

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I think I prefer the semantics of retiring everything up to a stated offset. That avoids messing with sequence numbers of sequence numbers, which just seems cleaner. The field needn't be always present; the value can only advance, so if you've ever seen a value, you need to retire everything below that value.

Corner case to consider: What if I've received CIDs 1,2,3,5,8 and I get a RetirePriorTo=7? Do I need to retire 4 and 6 that haven't arrived yet, or do I need to retire them upon receipt?

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----==_mimepart_5cf6b3db42d35_6b703fefd2ccd95c320563-- From nobody Tue Jun 4 12:03:32 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54D4D1205D4 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2019 12:03:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.806 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.806 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.415, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fq5zrlAG8dyN for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2019 12:03:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 371831205E2 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2019 12:03:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2019 12:03:17 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1559674997; bh=nwTv45GmJsZ49axQ4Hzi04p0AiaWEw8PGLAXKN8U9Po=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=1hn0zOGwjXO1fmUYq7iTN2biQGqBvOVNtJwIRLHYqsxaRPcJX9lTK4T/20/NoUUaD 1l31GMQ0GBAzW7UrcbFcmz4q48zgPeAHbuQR14m45uHITzE12rhOv7lAU1z9gX1/Bs n3yhCINn+x+xeexrHm/zoFk+dXbN7sguFhiSCqoc= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cf6c075b4891_66c33fcb992cd964895511"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2019 19:03:31 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cf6c075b4891_66c33fcb992cd964895511 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @MikeBishop I think you need to retire 4 and 6 immediately. Overall, I think this proposal is nice. At the cost of a single varint, we achieve clearer connection ID management semantics and the ability to retire CIDs proactively. I can see this being pretty useful. One note is that this means a client really has to support changing CIDs, whereas at the moment a client could support it during the handshake and never again. I don't think that's overly onerous, but it's worth pointing out and may be a pro or a con depending upon one's perspective. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2645#issuecomment-498801192 ----==_mimepart_5cf6c075b4891_66c33fcb992cd964895511 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@MikeBishop I think you need to retire 4 and 6 immediately.

Overall, I think this proposal is nice. At the cost of a single varint, we achieve clearer connection ID management semantics and the ability to retire CIDs proactively. I can see this being pretty useful.

One note is that this means a client really has to support changing CIDs, whereas at the moment a client could support it during the handshake and never again. I don't think that's overly onerous, but it's worth pointing out and may be a pro or a con depending upon one's perspective.

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I agree with @ianswett that you need to retire everything (and practically, remember the limit in case you get a heavily reordered packet offering the old one later).

If folks are happy with this design, I can write up a PR.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2345,7 +2345,7 @@ following layout:
  0                   1                   2                   3
  0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
-|0|1|               Unpredictable Bits (182..)                ...
+|0|1|               Unpredictable Bits (422..)                ...

So we're increasing the min size of a stateless reset token? I'd really rather not, since that increases the chances of that being a DoS vector. Keeping the ratio of incoming to outgoing bytes ~1:1 seems important for DoS. As a server operator, I don't want to not respond to a client's PING only packet with a stateless reset just because it's too small, but I also don't want to respond to every small packet I don't have state for.

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Mostly LG, but I'm pretty uneasy about increasing the minimum size of a stateless reset, since it puts servers in a worse posture when responding to small packets that have no associated state.

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Adds a new (optional) field, 'Retire Prior To' (placeholder name), to the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame, which allows a sender to request that its peer immediately retire all connection IDs up to a certain sequence number. Once the peer acknowledges this packet, it has at most 3 PTO to follow through or risk the sender closing the connection.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2345,7 +2345,7 @@ following layout:
  0                   1                   2                   3
  0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
-|0|1|               Unpredictable Bits (182..)                ...
+|0|1|               Unpredictable Bits (422..)                ...

I still think we should allow responding to smaller packets at some random factor rather than not responding at all. This does not mean we should not try to keep resets small though.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -994,6 +994,14 @@ packets sent from only one local address.  An endpoint that migrates away from a
 local address SHOULD retire all connection IDs used on that address once it no
 longer plans to use that address.
 
+The endpoint can explicitly request its peer to retire connection IDs by sending
+a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame that contains a Retire Prior To field.  The peer is
+required to retire these connection IDs in a timely manner.  On receipt of the
+acknowledgement for the packet that contained the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame, the
+endpoint may start a 3 PTO timer, which on expiring may close the connection
+with a PROTOCOL_VIOLATION error if all the connection IDs were not retired as
+requested.
+

I think this is too aggressive. A single delayed packet could randomly take down a connection and attackers could speculate in that.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -5018,10 +5034,16 @@ sequence number, or if a sequence number is used for different connection
 IDs, the endpoint MAY treat that receipt as a connection error of type
 PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.
 
+If the Retire Prior To field is present it is a request for the peer to
+immediately retire all connection IDs with a sequence number less than the
+specified value.  For more information see {{retiring-cids}}.  This field
+should only ever increase, though reordering and retransmission of older packets
+may make it seem to decrease.  So any decrease in this field should be ignored.
+

Retransmission of packets is not the right term here but I agree with the overall intent. To be consistent with other monotonic fields perhaps says something like the SHOULD not send a smaller value unless a previous frame is retransmitted verbatim. MUST ignore frames with a prior to value less than one previously received.

This means that the entire frame is to be ignored, not just the prior to field.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -5018,10 +5034,16 @@ sequence number, or if a sequence number is used for different connection
 IDs, the endpoint MAY treat that receipt as a connection error of type
 PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.
 
+If the Retire Prior To field is present it is a request for the peer to
+immediately retire all connection IDs with a sequence number less than the
+specified value.  For more information see {{retiring-cids}}.  This field
+should only ever increase, though reordering and retransmission of older packets
+may make it seem to decrease.  So any decrease in this field should be ignored.
+

Or, I'm not sure: it is a burden for the receiver to check the prior to field. The sequence number ought to be the only value ruling validity. One could state that the receiver MAY issue a protocol violation if the a sequence number is received hat contradict monotonic increase in prior to values.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -994,6 +994,14 @@ packets sent from only one local address.  An endpoint that migrates away from a
 local address SHOULD retire all connection IDs used on that address once it no
 longer plans to use that address.
 
+The endpoint can explicitly request its peer to retire connection IDs by sending
+a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame that contains a Retire Prior To field.  The peer is
+required to retire these connection IDs in a timely manner.  On receipt of the
+acknowledgement for the packet that contained the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame, the
+endpoint may start a 3 PTO timer, which on expiring may close the connection
+with a PROTOCOL_VIOLATION error if all the connection IDs were not retired as
+requested.
+

How could a single delayed packet take the connection down? Best case, the same packet that acknowledges the NEW_CONNECTION_ID also contains all the RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames. Worst case, maybe you send them an RTT later. The timer here is 3 PTOs, not 3 RTT. If you haven't retired in that amount of time, how long of a time window should we allow?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -5018,10 +5034,16 @@ sequence number, or if a sequence number is used for different connection
 IDs, the endpoint MAY treat that receipt as a connection error of type
 PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.
 
+If the Retire Prior To field is present it is a request for the peer to
+immediately retire all connection IDs with a sequence number less than the
+specified value.  For more information see {{retiring-cids}}.  This field
+should only ever increase, though reordering and retransmission of older packets
+may make it seem to decrease.  So any decrease in this field should be ignored.
+

We have the same problem with flow control values. We allow for implementations to naively retransmit packets that were lost, as is, so it's possible you have already updated the prior to field in a more recent packet, but then retransmit an older packet.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -994,6 +994,14 @@ packets sent from only one local address.  An endpoint that migrates away from a
 local address SHOULD retire all connection IDs used on that address once it no
 longer plans to use that address.
 
+The endpoint can explicitly request its peer to retire connection IDs by sending
+a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame that contains a Retire Prior To field.  The peer is
+required to retire these connection IDs in a timely manner.  On receipt of the
+acknowledgement for the packet that contained the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame, the
+endpoint may start a 3 PTO timer, which on expiring may close the connection
+with a PROTOCOL_VIOLATION error if all the connection IDs were not retired as
+requested.
+

The other option here is not to kill the connection, but the sender just removes those CIDs from its lookup/routing tables. This means, if the peer continues to get them, they will get a stateless reset. I prefer the explicit behavior, because I feel like it is easier to diagnose when there is a problem; but I am willing to accept either solution.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -5018,10 +5034,16 @@ sequence number, or if a sequence number is used for different connection
 IDs, the endpoint MAY treat that receipt as a connection error of type
 PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.
 
+If the Retire Prior To field is present it is a request for the peer to
+immediately retire all connection IDs with a sequence number less than the
+specified value.  For more information see {{retiring-cids}}.  This field
+should only ever increase, though reordering and retransmission of older packets
+may make it seem to decrease.  So any decrease in this field should be ignored.
+

I know, I just suggest a wording more close like those (don't recall the details)

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@mikkelfj commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -994,6 +994,14 @@ packets sent from only one local address.  An endpoint that migrates away from a
 local address SHOULD retire all connection IDs used on that address once it no
 longer plans to use that address.
 
+The endpoint can explicitly request its peer to retire connection IDs by sending
+a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame that contains a Retire Prior To field.  The peer is
+required to retire these connection IDs in a timely manner.  On receipt of the
+acknowledgement for the packet that contained the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame, the
+endpoint may start a 3 PTO timer, which on expiring may close the connection
+with a PROTOCOL_VIOLATION error if all the connection IDs were not retired as
+requested.
+

Yes, I was thinking 3 RTT. 3 PTO may be enough, but an attacker could still delay so I prefer to drop such packets.

If you remove them from the routing table that is a deployment strategy - but most would likely keep a grace period before resetting or dropping. I'd imagine the middlebox load balancer is slow to update and only drops while backends are more aggressive because they are directly targeted. This is actually also true without explicit retirement - do we have any text on how to deal with that?

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I'd like to make it a protocol violation for the gap between the CID sequence number and the "Retire Prior To" value being more than the active_connection_id_limit specified in the transport params. Previously people said implementing that was too difficult, but having both values in a single frame make it pretty easy to get right and detect when it's violated.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -994,6 +994,14 @@ packets sent from only one local address.  An endpoint that migrates away from a
 local address SHOULD retire all connection IDs used on that address once it no
 longer plans to use that address.
 
+The endpoint can explicitly request its peer to retire connection IDs by sending
+a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame that contains a Retire Prior To field.  The peer is
+required to retire these connection IDs in a timely manner.  On receipt of the
+acknowledgement for the packet that contained the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame, the
+endpoint may start a 3 PTO timer, which on expiring may close the connection
+with a PROTOCOL_VIOLATION error if all the connection IDs were not retired as
+requested.
+

I was going to suggest that the peer MUST change CIDs immediately or the issuer MAY close the connection. Admittedly that could cause the sender of CIDs to burn through a CID per packet, but I'm not sure what its incentive to do that would be?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -5018,10 +5034,16 @@ sequence number, or if a sequence number is used for different connection
 IDs, the endpoint MAY treat that receipt as a connection error of type
 PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.
 
+If the Retire Prior To field is present it is a request for the peer to
+immediately retire all connection IDs with a sequence number less than the
+specified value.  For more information see {{retiring-cids}}.  This field
+should only ever increase, though reordering and retransmission of older packets

I think you can say that the field MUST not decrease if the CID sequence number increases?

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----==_mimepart_5cf6ea8731ada_3db63fe4b9ecd96061467-- From nobody Tue Jun 4 15:06:08 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80A1D120448 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2019 15:06:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.878 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.878 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.415, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id juJlyytjKiG1 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2019 15:06:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BDAF01203D0 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2019 15:06:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2019 15:06:02 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1559685962; bh=NF2U1G3JrPNZRNki0taMJ+e6BIenqcXRFcZUOnjYp9k=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=kKLdZAUGFOXRKzJCdqS5CXBAJVSfyxQJ+Ky17mRWZYkt0wY9TfGdDxAVsgvWt2yVZ kRNjdaMhmSCzlvmEYX6+cLiK/bWH4Vo8lyyeh3PlOEEKp+ikUSKjD82BLrfk6oJRLW krOW/wEnxWMKen1d7nQHETjHpFuDnFzuG59rRiUI= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove QPACK settings maxima as useless (#2766) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cf6eb4abe76f_12883fe2bf2cd96875640"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2019 22:06:06 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cf6eb4abe76f_12883fe2bf2cd96875640 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This could be viewed as an alternative resolution to #2498. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2766#issuecomment-498861101 ----==_mimepart_5cf6eb4abe76f_12883fe2bf2cd96875640 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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It is not sufficient to discard ECN if one QUIC packet is discared, you need to discard ALL QUIC packets in the IP packet. Commit: 52c0f5b4c65f654a2e62ebd9fa575988e2d23333 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/52c0f5b4c65f654a2e62ebd9fa575988e2d23333 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-05-22 (Wed, 22 May 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- at least one Commit: a1d35eb487b5a2447d0a20f0bfeb6f280da7fe61 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a1d35eb487b5a2447d0a20f0bfeb6f280da7fe61 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-06-05 (Wed, 05 Jun 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #2750 from quicwg/tweak-ecn-ignore Don't use ECN if packets are discarded Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/f1ab5070f1ce...a1d35eb487b5 From nobody Tue Jun 4 15:15:36 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26DC3120098 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2019 15:15:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Hjs4-pxdUHGb for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2019 15:15:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 722B5120609 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2019 15:15:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2019 15:15:30 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1559686530; bh=jkji0hK4TrTArJb9m3iWivFOzESxbgxQ61/LSRA9O4g=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=WUaXmb25xOuGzYSsIl9Mzo2PPPSWwnrgNzFKfeXaoKZP5dCWlKilOb6xEI2sw7Jq/ 0+o7sNt5Ns2Tvkz5gjKW9FjrenIT7PSquXNlEZp5sArmp2dbmgj7S03OPoHsXAL8ak fo/DwZWCmeK9s/wOmfjsf56Gr/d5WsHtwqrwaj4w= From: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] 738859: Script updating gh-pages from bac1c92f. 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Fixes #2100 * Make avoidance of encoder stream creation more explicitly permissive * Use 'at most' language for both encoder and decoder From nobody Tue Jun 4 15:16:44 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8AFB1200F8 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2019 15:16:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.391 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.391 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id V8XrNI25HVEk for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2019 15:16:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8CBBC12003E for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2019 15:16:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2019 15:16:40 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1559686600; bh=ouTFFDzZVtSHl09ipNDi8QAWCqIJFxXMWHuVXMCBc0g=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=0SPXR8I8MgviFJAjNsCvN6jS234oYWdaBGwviOi6HtItQtTIWyY6+EdqwbYv7UscN AZClKwB4NIleiImmdaA0yg/GxKagPAOlDy3eiewcQTLY4l5eVMWXQwdeQpCyveLnXm 58kjeUxTVxGBpaRwSevoRdeYSSpXZsMmekBTL05M= From: afrind Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Allow not creating QPACK codec streams (#2529) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cf6edc8c14f3_789b3fc354acd968148150"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: afrind X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2019 22:16:43 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cf6edc8c14f3_789b3fc354acd968148150 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Merged #2529 into master. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Also, historical note: These have maxima because settings used to be length-prefixed blobs. By defining them to be integers of a maximum size, the length could be constrained. Now that we use varints, there is a maximum structural size already.

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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Jun 4 15:17:24 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7EB4120229 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2019 15:17:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yMc5ipvqmZaN for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2019 15:17:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BE7CE12003E for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2019 15:17:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2019 15:17:15 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1559686635; bh=dh/h2jPbSXZuBoG4t5DrPovVvRwIomJ+b9GAW9JrkOk=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=sHwt6AaJWiZjCC8g9JOCySAoiwjjpRCnPZD9+5JJAobjvK5B0mlzipC5dqiKoMEPy G44Ud9SJlZEPOYX2mWYA46SyeehSwwlFtyEmFUz5LjZ8YaseiM+6rgAilY29vZqT32 /eHBNLxzaPWiRg1J7+WuaMyy7lwVXK8yOAweA9PU= From: Dmitri Tikhonov To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] e892d9: Drop maximum value restrictions on QPACK settings Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2019 22:17:18 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: e892d9604bb99d33658b7779f525ed943c74802c https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e892d9604bb99d33658b7779f525ed943c74802c Author: Dmitri Tikhonov Date: 2019-06-04 (Tue, 04 Jun 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md Log Message: ----------- Drop maximum value restrictions on QPACK settings In addition, remove verbiage stating that the settings values are integers, as the are integers by the definition of the SETTING frame. Closes #2766. 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To entities other than its intended recipient, a stateless reset will appear to be a packet with a short header. For the packet to appear as valid, the -Unpredictable Bits field needs to include at least 182 bits of data (or 23 +Unpredictable Bits field needs to include at least 422 bits of data (or 53 bytes, less the two fixed bits). This is intended to allow for a Destination Connection ID of the maximum length permitted, with a minimal packet number, and payload. The Stateless Reset Token corresponds to the minimum expansion of the A bit further down, there is a 40 and 39 that need to be changed to 70 and 69. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2749#pullrequestreview-245738228 ----==_mimepart_5cf6f3b08408d_5d963f7f1aecd9602765a4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2368,7 +2368,7 @@ of the datagram contain a Stateless Reset Token.
 
 To entities other than its intended recipient, a stateless reset will appear
 to be a packet with a short header.  For the packet to appear as valid, the
-Unpredictable Bits field needs to include at least 182 bits of data (or 23
+Unpredictable Bits field needs to include at least 422 bits of data (or 53
 bytes, less the two fixed bits).  This is intended to allow for a Destination
 Connection ID of the maximum length permitted, with a minimal packet number, and
 payload.  The Stateless Reset Token corresponds to the minimum expansion of the

A bit further down, there is a 40 and 39 that need to be changed to 70 and 69.

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Message: ----------- Comments from EKR Commit: b899da207f35dabca7524716541224b6825223e5 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b899da207f35dabca7524716541224b6825223e5 Author: David Schinazi Date: 2019-05-07 (Tue, 07 May 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- More changes from MT and EKR Commit: 7e8b38695bba4fa0d83a6ccf10083cd02f8bb12a https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7e8b38695bba4fa0d83a6ccf10083cd02f8bb12a Author: David Schinazi Date: 2019-05-07 (Tue, 07 May 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge branch 'master' into design_team_discard_keys Commit: 1897ccb6b766c814f9fa632bfae031777b79e402 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1897ccb6b766c814f9fa632bfae031777b79e402 Author: David Schinazi Date: 2019-05-07 (Tue, 07 May 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Fix markdown typo Commit: 850f1b10d0438cce42e61de81af4423bb028ed7e https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/850f1b10d0438cce42e61de81af4423bb028ed7e Author: David Schinazi Date: 2019-05-07 (Tue, 07 May 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Editorial pass from MT Commit: ea39e6b7c0ff79f43d1bfc64174431dbf356e144 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ea39e6b7c0ff79f43d1bfc64174431dbf356e144 Author: David Schinazi Date: 2019-05-08 (Wed, 08 May 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- More review comments from MT mikkelfj and CAW Commit: 964950879b7196308d23f615b5a8594244b3b743 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/964950879b7196308d23f615b5a8594244b3b743 Author: David Schinazi Date: 2019-05-09 (Thu, 09 May 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Review comments from Ian Swett and Mike Bishop Commit: 869d1d30f690f20afa04cb7c465bc28ebb3448e8 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/869d1d30f690f20afa04cb7c465bc28ebb3448e8 Author: David Schinazi Date: 2019-05-09 (Thu, 09 May 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge branch 'master' into design_team_discard_keys Commit: fcca9015fbe7fd77e5e3cd4f0c98c5d57e90a924 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/fcca9015fbe7fd77e5e3cd4f0c98c5d57e90a924 Author: David Schinazi Date: 2019-05-11 (Sat, 11 May 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Editorial pass from Jana Commit: d84e75e543997ecb8b1fb5e1cc1c68c61b5b5e13 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d84e75e543997ecb8b1fb5e1cc1c68c61b5b5e13 Author: David Schinazi Date: 2019-05-15 (Wed, 15 May 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- minor change from Jana Commit: e52cf67f31259dc6a62d9da1c663663a1e5ccee7 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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Jun 4 15:56:19 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 679CB120098 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2019 15:56:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.008 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.008 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ofxvlec8krPR for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2019 15:56:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 40DB8120048 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2019 15:56:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2019 15:56:14 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1559688974; bh=LfY2a+kNNmVqNDrncxlOyZFUVFk/dO4w+mLcO5Yy91E=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=k8CyUqf9h1yTxChUWFO7mJ3BBC/nmnpUWd2jXWeRoxr7WHXGfq+elkcRUCEYL+Xox HNm0Xan5RqGFxzDSWx+hZi4Vg5fy1el8zrvfzk1DW8tWF0VQHvs6AEuccYy+UNY4OI 18BM2VsqFNBbDoG/XStBIkX6QdxR1lYVKkH/JoHA= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Stateless Reset becomes a larger risk of amplification with longer CIDs (#2770) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cf6f70e296c8_a553fbabbecd96044870"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2019 22:56:18 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cf6f70e296c8_a553fbabbecd96044870 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The two principles previously espoused were: 1) MUST ensure every stateless reset is smaller than the packet received to prevent looping: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-transport-20#section-10.4.3 2) Stateless resets MUST be 69 bytes with #2749 in order to make them non-identifiable. This means clients that want stateless resets in response to keepalives(ie: PINGs) must send 70 byte packets or risk getting nothing in response, therefore waiting for an RTO. This seems like an unnecessary risk/complexity, when we could decrease the minimum size of the stateless reset being processed by a client. The risk/cost to the client seems very low of processing stateless resets after a packet has already failed decryption. Additionally, it's difficult to imagine a client ever use a 16 byte connection ID, and even more implausible the client will use a 48 byte connection ID, given most clients are expected to have one connection per port and even those with multiple likely won't have so many they need >8 byte CIDs. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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The two principles previously espoused were:

  1. MUST ensure every stateless reset is smaller than the packet received to prevent looping: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-transport-20#section-10.4.3
  2. Stateless resets MUST be 69 bytes with #2749 in order to make them non-identifiable.

This means clients that want stateless resets in response to keepalives(ie: PINGs) must send 70 byte packets or risk getting nothing in response, therefore waiting for an RTO.

This seems like an unnecessary risk/complexity, when we could decrease the minimum size of the stateless reset being processed by a client. The risk/cost to the client seems very low of processing stateless resets after a packet has already failed decryption.

Additionally, it's difficult to imagine a client ever use a 16 byte connection ID, and even more implausible the client will use a 48 byte connection ID, given most clients are expected to have one connection per port and even those with multiple likely won't have so many they need >8 byte CIDs.

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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2345,7 +2345,7 @@ following layout:
  0                   1                   2                   3
  0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
-|0|1|               Unpredictable Bits (182..)                ...
+|0|1|               Unpredictable Bits (422..)                ...

#2770 filed as a separate issue for this.

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----==_mimepart_5cf6f955ecfb0_63a83fd750acd96c10252d-- From nobody Tue Jun 4 16:06:10 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE7AF120120 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2019 16:06:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.605 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.605 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id l5Vg1swxmVQz for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2019 16:06:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-22.smtp.github.com (out-22.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.205]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 163691202E9 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2019 16:06:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2019 16:06:04 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1559689565; bh=ulUhvBEhWHGtQvwnvu/FgHAbTMUh1XCbVpU42p4IllI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=P3gI41JzWOXTVyLf3wqmO8GNh91amg6c6toaEQlYZgd23ROUI41Scjfp/wrazgy5N DK6tXXYUcZECd4Ay9iu6mACdeKGEEEHANxq1Sr0XmqCDS9pt/u89E5hNaH2JHaFGvK Xdd7gz4WpwCS82NtglVuB4lMcwkVvnfdMd8MnCCc= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Stateless Reset becomes a larger risk of amplification with longer CIDs (#2770) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cf6f95ce6d51_66ef3fa2930cd96823009"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2019 23:06:08 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cf6f95ce6d51_66ef3fa2930cd96823009 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In many cases even largish connection IDs will be around 20 bytes, meaning that minimal (PING) packets come to around 40 bytes. Adding 30 bytes of padding is a little annoying. @ianswett, the error in your description is here: > when we could decrease the minimum size of the stateless reset being processed by a client We don't stipulate any size constraints on *processing* packets, just generating them. The sending constraints exist to prevent indefinite looping of stateless reset. They also eliminate amplification as a side-effect. The reason we have this recommendation is to keep the stateless reset indistinguishable from "real" packets. Though it might be a little unusual, a 70 byte packet isn't implausible, no matter what the situation. But sending a 23 byte packet when every other packet included the same 40 byte connection ID will stand out badly. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2770#issuecomment-498875179 ----==_mimepart_5cf6f95ce6d51_66ef3fa2930cd96823009 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

In many cases even largish connection IDs will be around 20 bytes, meaning that minimal (PING) packets come to around 40 bytes. Adding 30 bytes of padding is a little annoying.

@ianswett, the error in your description is here:

when we could decrease the minimum size of the stateless reset being processed by a client

We don't stipulate any size constraints on processing packets, just generating them. The sending constraints exist to prevent indefinite looping of stateless reset. They also eliminate amplification as a side-effect.

The reason we have this recommendation is to keep the stateless reset indistinguishable from "real" packets. Though it might be a little unusual, a 70 byte packet isn't implausible, no matter what the situation. But sending a 23 byte packet when every other packet included the same 40 byte connection ID will stand out badly.

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A few comments, but I'd appreciate it if @bencebeky would take a look as well. > @@ -82,25 +82,22 @@ code and issues list for this draft can be found at # Introduction -The QUIC transport protocol was designed from the outset to support HTTP -semantics, and its design subsumes many of the features of HTTP/2. HTTP/2 uses -HPACK ({{!RFC7541}}) for header compression, but QUIC's stream multiplexing -comes into some conflict with HPACK. A key goal of the design of QUIC is to -improve stream multiplexing relative to HTTP/2 by reducing head-of-line -blocking. If HPACK were used for HTTP/3, it would induce head-of-line -blocking due to built-in assumptions of a total ordering across frames on all -streams. - -QUIC is described in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}. The HTTP/3 mapping is described in -{{HTTP3}}. For a full description of HTTP/2, see {{?RFC7540}}. The -description of HPACK is {{!RFC7541}}. +The QUIC transport protocol is designed to support HTTP semantics, and its Maybe re-add a reference to {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}} here? > -semantics, and its design subsumes many of the features of HTTP/2. HTTP/2 uses -HPACK ({{!RFC7541}}) for header compression, but QUIC's stream multiplexing -comes into some conflict with HPACK. A key goal of the design of QUIC is to -improve stream multiplexing relative to HTTP/2 by reducing head-of-line -blocking. If HPACK were used for HTTP/3, it would induce head-of-line -blocking due to built-in assumptions of a total ordering across frames on all -streams. - -QUIC is described in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}. The HTTP/3 mapping is described in -{{HTTP3}}. For a full description of HTTP/2, see {{?RFC7540}}. The -description of HPACK is {{!RFC7541}}. +The QUIC transport protocol is designed to support HTTP semantics, and its +design subsumes many of the features of HTTP/2. HTTP/2 uses HPACK +({{!RFC7541}}) for header compression. If HPACK were used for HTTP/3, it would +induce head-of-line blocking due to built-in assumptions of a total ordering +across frames on all streams. QPACK reuses core concepts from HPACK, but is redesigned to allow correctness in This transition is a bit awkward, but not any worse than the status quo. > QPACK reuses core concepts from HPACK, but is redesigned to allow correctness in the presence of out-of-order delivery, with flexibility for implementations to balance between resilience against head-of-line blocking and optimal compression ratio. The design goals are to closely approach the compression ratio of HPACK with substantially less head-of-line blocking under the same loss conditions. +QUIC is described in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}. The HTTP/3 mapping is described in +{{HTTP3}}. For a full description of HTTP/2, see {{?RFC7540}}. The I'd suggest folding these references into the first paragraph rather than adding another paragraph? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2759#pullrequestreview-245732558 ----==_mimepart_5cf6f9c013e19_3b053f9b820cd96c121098 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@ianswett approved this pull request.

A few comments, but I'd appreciate it if @bencebeky would take a look as well.

In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -82,25 +82,22 @@ code and issues list for this draft can be found at
 
 # Introduction
 
-The QUIC transport protocol was designed from the outset to support HTTP
-semantics, and its design subsumes many of the features of HTTP/2.  HTTP/2 uses
-HPACK ({{!RFC7541}}) for header compression, but QUIC's stream multiplexing
-comes into some conflict with HPACK.  A key goal of the design of QUIC is to
-improve stream multiplexing relative to HTTP/2 by reducing head-of-line
-blocking.  If HPACK were used for HTTP/3, it would induce head-of-line
-blocking due to built-in assumptions of a total ordering across frames on all
-streams.
-
-QUIC is described in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}.  The HTTP/3 mapping is described in
-{{HTTP3}}. For a full description of HTTP/2, see {{?RFC7540}}. The
-description of HPACK is {{!RFC7541}}.
+The QUIC transport protocol is designed to support HTTP semantics, and its

Maybe re-add a reference to {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}} here?

In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> -semantics, and its design subsumes many of the features of HTTP/2.  HTTP/2 uses
-HPACK ({{!RFC7541}}) for header compression, but QUIC's stream multiplexing
-comes into some conflict with HPACK.  A key goal of the design of QUIC is to
-improve stream multiplexing relative to HTTP/2 by reducing head-of-line
-blocking.  If HPACK were used for HTTP/3, it would induce head-of-line
-blocking due to built-in assumptions of a total ordering across frames on all
-streams.
-
-QUIC is described in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}.  The HTTP/3 mapping is described in
-{{HTTP3}}. For a full description of HTTP/2, see {{?RFC7540}}. The
-description of HPACK is {{!RFC7541}}.
+The QUIC transport protocol is designed to support HTTP semantics, and its
+design subsumes many of the features of HTTP/2.  HTTP/2 uses HPACK
+({{!RFC7541}}) for header compression.  If HPACK were used for HTTP/3, it would
+induce head-of-line blocking due to built-in assumptions of a total ordering
+across frames on all streams.
 
 QPACK reuses core concepts from HPACK, but is redesigned to allow correctness in

This transition is a bit awkward, but not any worse than the status quo.

In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

>  
 QPACK reuses core concepts from HPACK, but is redesigned to allow correctness in
 the presence of out-of-order delivery, with flexibility for implementations to
 balance between resilience against head-of-line blocking and optimal compression
 ratio.  The design goals are to closely approach the compression ratio of HPACK
 with substantially less head-of-line blocking under the same loss conditions.
 
+QUIC is described in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}.  The HTTP/3 mapping is described in
+{{HTTP3}}. For a full description of HTTP/2, see {{?RFC7540}}. The

I'd suggest folding these references into the first paragraph rather than adding another paragraph?

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Reading that full section, though we specify a length of the stateless reset to be sent in the wire format, we don't use any normative language about size except: "Endpoints MUST discard packets that are too small to be valid QUIC packets." so I guess if, as a server, I believe sending a stateless reset of a certain size is unlikely to be distinguishable from a "real" packet, I can do that?

If so, that's not obvious, but it would seem there's no normative text change necessary.

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----==_mimepart_5cf71e709dfc_1df83fd9fbacd96425921-- From nobody Tue Jun 4 18:57:45 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34CA112017C for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2019 18:57:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.007 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.007 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nK-s16j2T77s for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2019 18:57:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-22.smtp.github.com (out-22.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.205]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 382A9120086 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2019 18:57:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2019 18:57:39 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1559699859; bh=yxkXMwxRBIrJg4muG1Yi7mFcWzOqhxNvT+g036pJJS8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=w2cgk3BvlnTVlGVFih1zKf9w4OJdCD9uEx7WTNLdXQvJS5ZHd6L2BCHV1h1YGWc+b rE9lUcEN24YttkrIsINF7wOev3BgVnZqFACoqY8ubDKCMrgW/qb88xGMxvGd/viVIG +EZVscH+5rE0ou7kGqUdGyJTrx5dLXsIZjzgF9ts= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Lessen the divergence from the HTTP/2 prioritization scheme by requiring all PRIORITY frames to be sent on the control stream (#2754) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cf721939eff0_2ee43fa10e8cd964262321"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2019 01:57:43 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cf721939eff0_2ee43fa10e8cd964262321 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @kazuho sorry for the confusion, I was attempting to say that HTTP/3 priorities were different from HTTP/2 priorities, and that was a negative. I just corrected my comment to say HTTP/3. @LPardue your concerns are well-founded, but I think that's an existing problem and not a result of a recent change? I previously mentioned(verbally) that tree maintenance should be a longer period of time(ie: 3 MSL https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximum_segment_lifetime ?), but I realize even that may not be sufficient for QUIC and instead we should use something like 3*PTO? I also think attaching streams to streams is inherently dangerous and much more dangerous in QUIC than HTTP/2, which is why I want to change HTTP/3 priorities to never have streams depend upon streams. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2754#issuecomment-498908852 ----==_mimepart_5cf721939eff0_2ee43fa10e8cd964262321 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@kazuho sorry for the confusion, I was attempting to say that HTTP/3 priorities were different from HTTP/2 priorities, and that was a negative. I just corrected my comment to say HTTP/3.

@LPardue your concerns are well-founded, but I think that's an existing problem and not a result of a recent change? I previously mentioned(verbally) that tree maintenance should be a longer period of time(ie: 3 MSL https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximum_segment_lifetime ?), but I realize even that may not be sufficient for QUIC and instead we should use something like 3*PTO?

I also think attaching streams to streams is inherently dangerous and much more dangerous in QUIC than HTTP/2, which is why I want to change HTTP/3 priorities to never have streams depend upon streams.

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I really don't like the fact that this is a field on NEW_CONNECTION_ID rather than a new frame type that just carries the proposed "Retire Prior To" field. This change renumbers a bunch of frame types just to make this part of a frame that already exists.

The cost of a separate frame type is that you don't have an atomic assurance that a connection ID is available. That's OK. I mean, this PR doesn't even require that Sequence Number be equal to or greater than Retire Prior To, so clearly that isn't a concern that is top-of-mind. I would prefer to instead reiterate that the recipient of a "RETIRE_ALL_CONNECTION_IDS_WITH_SEQUENCE_NUMBERS_BEFORE" frame can't retire connection IDs until it has a connection ID that it can use (which is basically what we say elsewhere anyway).

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First, I don't see the frame type rearrange as a very large change at all. Second, I do think the atomic assurance is important, and it's just an oversight that we aren't explicitly require Sequence Number to be greater. I didn't think of that scenario.

Without the atomic assurance, I worry about the scenario where an endpoint retires all the CIDs without replacing any. It gets a lot more complicated if you have separate frames. What conditions are considered protocol violations?

In order to replace all existing CIDs, the order of the frames in a single packet starts to make a difference. You have to make sure you have the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame followed by the RETIRE_ALL_CONNECTIONS_IDS_WITH_SEQUENCE_NUMBER_BEFORE frame.

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I think I agree with @martinthomson that we should refrain from renumbering frames (again). One of the issues regarding the proposed renumbering is that the two CONNECTION_CLOSE frame types would not have the same MSB bits; it could be a concern for certain stacks.

OTOH, it is also my view that we do not need a new frame nor a new frame type.

How about just making the "Retire Prior To" a mandatory field of the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame? The value can be set to zero when retirement is not necessary. We do not expect a lot of NEW_CONNECTION_ID to be inflight; spending one additional byte is IMO a non-issue.

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Updated the text to reference the output of PR #2673 as agreed during the London interim.

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@mnot, @larseggert, this one looks good to go.

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----==_mimepart_5cf75af098a0c_a593f8b814cd960681af-- From nobody Tue Jun 4 23:13:23 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6565120224 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2019 23:13:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.424 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.424 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.415, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nn6gZWSRf6W8 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2019 23:13:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1003112003E for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2019 23:13:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2019 23:13:17 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1559715197; bh=ZNag8pXESK8txxjecDqqLvU0vjl0U5HeWukn1D4mmdY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=phxCjB5l9cCyr2upnaTRs1kJyDaT6OMtOkqioStKr+viw2nDetCNvu1OqFk5Ktml3 uOiPRp+KV7eX63deqTaTsODJqriH8ff4jwDcPcok6ajGNfACloR2TJKeQSC0V0RRAv PgFYSqsNthvfnUnJtO6qOBue/rA4MU141z3VPkzE= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Request to Retire Locally Issued CIDs (#2769) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cf75d7dd2867_18c73fa65a4cd96c228091"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2019 06:13:21 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cf75d7dd2867_18c73fa65a4cd96c228091 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson commented on this pull request. > @@ -994,6 +994,14 @@ packets sent from only one local address. An endpoint that migrates away from a local address SHOULD retire all connection IDs used on that address once it no longer plans to use that address. +The endpoint can explicitly request its peer to retire connection IDs by sending +a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame that contains a Retire Prior To field. The peer is +required to retire these connection IDs in a timely manner. On receipt of the +acknowledgement for the packet that contained the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame, the +endpoint may start a 3 PTO timer, which on expiring may close the connection MAY and MAY here > @@ -4984,6 +4994,12 @@ Sequence Number: : The sequence number assigned to the connection ID by the sender. See {{issue-cid}}. +Retire Prior To: + +: A variable-length integer specifying the limit, for which all connection IDs + assigned to the receiver that have a sequence number less this value should be + retired. See {{retiring-cids}}. This field is only present for type=0x19. This doesn't say anything about what to do with the connection ID that is negotiated during the handshake, and the one attached to a server preferred address. > @@ -5018,10 +5034,16 @@ sequence number, or if a sequence number is used for different connection IDs, the endpoint MAY treat that receipt as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION. +If the Retire Prior To field is present it is a request for the peer to +immediately retire all connection IDs with a sequence number less than the +specified value. For more information see {{retiring-cids}}. This field +should only ever increase, though reordering and retransmission of older packets There's lots of vague 2119-lite language here. The language on flow control can be used here: > A receiver cannot renege on an advertisement however. That is, once a receiver advertises an offset, it MAY advertise a smaller offset, but this has no effect. > [...] > A sender MUST ignore any MAX_STREAM_DATA or MAX_DATA frames that do not increase flow control limits. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2769#pullrequestreview-245819379 ----==_mimepart_5cf75d7dd2867_18c73fa65a4cd96c228091 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -994,6 +994,14 @@ packets sent from only one local address.  An endpoint that migrates away from a
 local address SHOULD retire all connection IDs used on that address once it no
 longer plans to use that address.
 
+The endpoint can explicitly request its peer to retire connection IDs by sending
+a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame that contains a Retire Prior To field.  The peer is
+required to retire these connection IDs in a timely manner.  On receipt of the
+acknowledgement for the packet that contained the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame, the
+endpoint may start a 3 PTO timer, which on expiring may close the connection

MAY and MAY here

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4984,6 +4994,12 @@ Sequence Number:
 : The sequence number assigned to the connection ID by the sender.  See
   {{issue-cid}}.
 
+Retire Prior To:
+
+: A variable-length integer specifying the limit, for which all connection IDs
+  assigned to the receiver that have a sequence number less this value should be
+  retired.  See {{retiring-cids}}.  This field is only present for type=0x19.

This doesn't say anything about what to do with the connection ID that is negotiated during the handshake, and the one attached to a server preferred address.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -5018,10 +5034,16 @@ sequence number, or if a sequence number is used for different connection
 IDs, the endpoint MAY treat that receipt as a connection error of type
 PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.
 
+If the Retire Prior To field is present it is a request for the peer to
+immediately retire all connection IDs with a sequence number less than the
+specified value.  For more information see {{retiring-cids}}.  This field
+should only ever increase, though reordering and retransmission of older packets

There's lots of vague 2119-lite language here. The language on flow control can be used here:

A receiver cannot renege on an advertisement however. That is, once a receiver advertises an offset, it MAY advertise a smaller offset, but this has no effect.
[...]
A sender MUST ignore any MAX_STREAM_DATA or MAX_DATA frames that do not increase flow control limits.

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----==_mimepart_5cf75d7dd2867_18c73fa65a4cd96c228091-- From nobody Wed Jun 5 00:53:23 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E37FF120120 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2019 00:53:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id m7LOdf3BXBns for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2019 00:53:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B79BB1200F1 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2019 00:53:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2019 00:53:18 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1559721198; bh=8ILTirVr6EsPBV4dXABWB9DeJBOrRFzDq9ze7xEApWA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=U04J/oz9qzZNFacVp0PXLv5nQiHlYL4+GVromQQb4YDJASC8ZdY1jqOlOIOxapeEF fgjfUbC1ajFRbIh1Lvno10lzkV9dXWNxk5bthv7orBnkbmQTjAJLTHU0xIehYWJuWt tyczcup5srqCVjrTvLTyWInHijvaOU3UYedDB4go= From: David Schinazi Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Stronger migration handshake (#2370) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cf774ee6c016_7ecf3fc4d32cd968212733"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: DavidSchinazi X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2019 07:53:22 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cf774ee6c016_7ecf3fc4d32cd968212733 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I like the latest text referencing handshake confirmed =F0=9F=91=8D =0D =0D -- =0D You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.=0D Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub:=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2370#issuecomment-498978047= ----==_mimepart_5cf774ee6c016_7ecf3fc4d32cd968212733 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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=0D = ----==_mimepart_5cf774ee6c016_7ecf3fc4d32cd968212733-- From nobody Wed Jun 5 02:07:20 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 221F8120131 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2019 02:07:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id l5skQA8eQE5w for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2019 02:07:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3499312003F for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2019 02:07:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2019 02:07:15 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1559725635; bh=HNbWbpq5f1wRQRk+y3sgBW7tdQFi1I/0arG4mCRuEUA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=0jLR57obHtgByiEVkFoYare3xo1TezuBACkgfFJaH+z5NTLNEVW4sWYEOmHr3A/hV 5hKPTJn1JEzA39FmR5Wv5UMwzOn191MdYNq/Rurs6WrY9tky8Hs0fLsfW/ctDNwdBA ba/zaZND46pVqLN1fxCPzYAsYoODrp9ETDaGszDg= From: Robin Marx Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Lessen the divergence from the HTTP/2 prioritization scheme by requiring all PRIORITY frames to be sent on the control stream (#2754) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cf78643b4428_7523ff7c06cd96c513e1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: rmarx X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2019 09:07:19 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cf78643b4428_7523ff7c06cd96c513e1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I also think we might be conflating some issues here... to me, streams-depending-on-streams + do we need placeholders is a separate discussion from the original statement of this issue. I am a bit hesitant to agree with this proposal, as I am worried about potential HOL blocking on the control stream, see also #2678 (a potential solution which was discarded in London). As mentioned above, this might be rare, but -any- loss on the control stream would impact priorities. Thinking of long fat networks and the CDN/proxy use case (of which it's still a bit unclear if we want to incorporate that into the HTTP/3 prioritization design), this might have a bigger impact than anticipated (though should only be occasional). I myself was quite happy with just changing default behaviour (with #2690) in the case of potential re-ordering and don't really see the need for this change. The argument that it allows re-introducing exclusive priorities (uttered elsewhere) is true, but as also uttered elsewhere, I don't really see the need for that feature (was only used by Chrome for H2 afaict) and is better replaced with something like "implicit fifo" e.g., #2700 or #2723. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2754#issuecomment-499002392 ----==_mimepart_5cf78643b4428_7523ff7c06cd96c513e1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I also think we might be conflating some issues here... to me, streams= -depending-on-streams + do we need placeholders is a separate discussion = from the original statement of this issue.

I am a bit hesitant to agree with this proposal, as I am worried about= potential HOL blocking on the control stream, see also #2678 = (a potential solution which was discarded in London). As mentioned above,= this might be rare, but -any- loss on the control stream would impact pr= iorities. Thinking of long fat networks and the CDN/proxy use case (of wh= ich it's still a bit unclear if we want to incorporate that into the HTTP= /3 prioritization design), this might have a bigger impact than anticipat= ed (though should only be occasional).

I myself was quite happy with just changing default behaviour (with #2690) in the case of potential re-ordering and don't really = see the need for this change. The argument that it allows re-introducing = exclusive priorities (uttered elsewhere) is true, but as also uttered els= ewhere, I don't really see the need for that feature (was only used by Ch= rome for H2 afaict) and is better replaced with something like "implicit = fifo" e.g., #2700 or #2723.

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Fair point. I agree that placeholders becomes no longer a prerequisite for browsers once we bring back the "exclusive" bit (as proposed by #2754).

@kazuho could you clarify this comment a bit? Do you mean placeholders are no longer needed if we bring back the exclusive bit AND allow streams to depend on other streams? I don't follow you if that last part isn't implied.

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Yeah. I think that the anticipation behind this PR is that a server would either support no placeholders at all, or be capable of handling enough number of placeholders. FWIW, Firefox uses 4 "placeholders" in HTTP/2. I do not think that there would be a reason for a HTTP/3 with support for placeholders to support something below 4.

@kazuho do you have a source for this? afaik, it uses 6...

I agree that current browser approaches do not require many placeholders, but as also included in Ian's presentation in London, if you want to simulate something like @patmeenan's scheme with placeholders, you need 4 placeholders per priority-level (of which that scheme uses a default of 3, so 12 placeholders minimum total).

I share's @ghedo's views that making this an advisory SETTING would not mean much in practice if not coupled with a minimum amount of placeholders servers MUST support. I'm more for requiring at least X placeholders (X > 32 in my opinion).

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1202,9 +1202,17 @@ The following situations are examples of invalid PRIORITY frames:
 A PRIORITY frame with Empty bits not set to zero MAY be treated as a connection
 error of type HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME.
 
-A PRIORITY frame that references a non-existent Push ID, a Placeholder ID
-greater than the server's limit, or a Stream ID the client is not yet permitted
-to open MUST be treated as a connection error of type HTTP_LIMIT_EXCEEDED.
+A PRIORITY frame that references a non-existent Push ID, or a Stream ID the
+client is not yet permitted to open MUST be treated as a connection error of
+type HTTP_LIMIT_EXCEEDED.
+
+A PRIORITY frame MAY reference a Placeholder ID that is equal to or greater than
+the server's advertised value of the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` settings.  When
+receiving a PRIORITY frame with its prioritized element set to such a
+placeholder, the server SHOULD discard the frame without making any change to
+the priority tree.  When receiving a PRIORITY frame with its element dependency
+set to such a placeholder, the server SHOULD update the priority tree with the
+root of the tree being the dependency instead.

With regards to #2690, should the default be the orphan or the root? Root makes a bit more sense, since this element is clearly something the client wants to explicitly prioritize. On the other hand, this is a bit dirty, since with the orphan placeholder, nothing else gets explicitly added to the root anymore.

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----==_mimepart_5cf78a6165a62_6b9e3fb5a24cd960292712-- From nobody Wed Jun 5 02:26:09 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEEA312061E for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2019 02:26:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.391 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.391 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vINe6r1zBNgx for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2019 02:26:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2F95B1200B6 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2019 02:26:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2019 02:26:06 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1559726766; bh=Qp2o5v8eBYpUTdOKV6uDFlgZcegDYeYzdyH8V0iv9LY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=A+vIeIurp19qU9gqquCC6xlcMMpvKoHLZ9Aes6NuuvOw6rvmIAzj5kUFFVQkbIWTX cp6mNCzNo4CmvXqqGlAdCKQFCW+/cwSBv97IBHAQn0T34C/UuKV5x0OUNxFXWW0dM/ L9UGLfNfygbQoTD+EMGvfSmPw2w6uTOpJ4VWzCrw= From: Robin Marx Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Placeholder limits make for awkward clients (#2734) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cf78aaeb712_6b893fb5a24cd9602019b4"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: rmarx X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2019 09:26:09 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cf78aaeb712_6b893fb5a24cd9602019b4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As I wrote here https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2761#issuecomment-499006288, I think we need a combination of c) and requiring servers to have a minimum amount of placeholders (even if they have to lie about it, e.g., in the IoT use case). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2734#issuecomment-499008601 ----==_mimepart_5cf78aaeb712_6b893fb5a24cd9602019b4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

As I wrote here #2761 (comment), I think we need a combination of c) and requiring servers to have a minimum amount of placeholders (even if they have to lie about it, e.g., in the IoT use case).

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@rmarx

Do you mean placeholders are no longer needed if we bring back the exclusive bit AND allow streams to depend on other streams?

Correct. IIUC, the context is if the browsers need to use a placeholder under current scheme (that already allows a stream to depend on another) with the exclusive bit being revived.

Let me be precise.

I think there is a rough consensus that a ideal tree looks like:

root
  +- JS1 (blocking)
      +- CSS1 (blocking)
        +- CSS2 (blocking)
            +- image1 (weight=X)
            +- image2 (weight=X)
            +- image3 (weight=X)
            +- image4 (weight=X)

HTML could be either within the root and JS1, or within CSS2 and image1.

The other thing that is missing in the chart above are the the asynchronously loaded scripts and CSS files. However, we could argue that prioritization of them is not important, as long as it receives comparable or less bandwidth than the images.

If we agree on that, there is no "need" for browsers to use placeholders (or idle streams as placeholders), neither in the HTTP/2 prioritization tree nor the current HTTP/3 scheme with the exclusive bit being revived.

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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2304,13 +2304,25 @@ the application requests that the connection be closed.  The application
 protocol can use an CONNECTION_CLOSE frame with an appropriate error code to
 signal closure.
 
-If the connection has been successfully established, endpoints MUST send any
-CONNECTION_CLOSE frames in a 1-RTT packet.  Prior to connection establishment a
-peer might not have 1-RTT keys, so endpoints SHOULD send CONNECTION_CLOSE frames
-in a Handshake packet.  If the endpoint does not have Handshake keys, or it is
-not certain that the peer has Handshake keys, it MAY send CONNECTION_CLOSE
-frames in an Initial packet.  If multiple packets are sent, they can be
-coalesced (see {{packet-coalesce}}) to facilitate retransmission.
+When sending CONNECTION_CLOSE, the goal is to ensure that a peer will process
+the frame.  Generally, this means sending the frame in a packet with the highest
+level of packet protection to avoid the packet being discarded.  However, during
+the handshake, it is possible that more advanced packet protection keys are not
+available to a peer, so the frame MAY be replicated in a packet that uses a
+lower packet protection level.

I don't have a strong opinion, but I see your point, this was @martinthomson addition, so I'll let him comment.

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Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/3 settings frames and prioritization (#2772) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cf7cbe87cdc8_3b783f942cecd95c3277db"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: tomdedecker X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2019 14:04:28 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cf7cbe87cdc8_3b783f942cecd95c3277db Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My issue is the following: The current HTTP/3 specifications say that a S= ETTINGS frame must be sent as the first frame of the control stream direc= tly following QUIC connection establishment.=0D =0D ```=0D While connection-level options pertaining to the core QUIC protocol are s= et in the initial crypto handshake, HTTP/3-specific settings are conveyed= in the SETTINGS frame. =0D After the QUIC connection is established, a SETTINGS frame (Section 7.2.5= ) MUST be sent by each endpoint as the initial frame of their respective = HTTP control stream (see Section 6.2.1).=0D ```=0D =0D Depending on how connection establishment is defined, this could result i= n some awkward client-sided behavior. There are two ways to interpret con= nection establishment as far as I can tell:=0D 1. The moment the server has 1-RTT send-keys available (i.e., after Clien= t Hello)=0D 2. On receipt of the client finished TLS packet=0D =0D In the first case, the server can specify its settings before the client = makes its first request. In the second case however, the client can alrea= dy send its first request before having received the server's settings. T= o handle this case, the specifications say the following:=0D =0D ```=0D An HTTP implementation MUST NOT send frames or requests which would be in= valid based on its current understanding of the peer=E2=80=99s settings. = =0D All settings begin at an initial value, and are updated upon receipt of a= SETTINGS frame. =0D For servers, the initial value of each client setting is the default valu= e.=0D ```=0D =0D Now say for example that a client wants to use Firefox's prioritization s= cheme and connection establishment is defined in the second way (receipt = of client finished packet). Ideally it would use placeholders to structur= e the dependency tree, but as it has not yet received a settings frame, i= t is not allowed to do so (default placeholder count is 0). This gives th= e client two options from what I can tell: =0D 1. Wait for the settings frame to arrive (and therefore block, which isn'= t exactly elegant)=0D 2. Use a fallback prioritization scheme and reprioritize requests later w= hen the settings frame has been received and it allows the placeholders t= he client wants to use (which we'd also ideally like to avoid).=0D =0D As neither of these options are preferred, the importance of the definiti= on of connection establishment is highlighted even more. My request is, i= f a clear answer has already been thought out, to add a more verbose desc= ription of what connection establishment actually means in this situation= .=0D =0D -- =0D You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.=0D Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub:=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2772= ----==_mimepart_5cf7cbe87cdc8_3b783f942cecd95c3277db Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

My issue is the following: The current HTTP/3 specifications say that = a SETTINGS frame must be sent as the first frame of the control stream di= rectly following QUIC connection establishment.

=0D 
While connection-level options pertaining to the core QUIC pro=
tocol are set in the initial crypto handshake, HTTP/3-specific settings a=
re conveyed in the SETTINGS frame. =0D
After the QUIC connection is established, a SETTINGS frame (Section 7.2.5=
) MUST be sent by each endpoint as the initial frame of their respective =
HTTP control stream (see Section 6.2.1).=0D
=0D

Depending on how connection establishment is defined, this could resul= t in some awkward client-sided behavior. There are two ways to interpret = connection establishment as far as I can tell:

=0D
    =0D
  1. The moment the server has 1-RTT send-keys available (i.e., after Clie= nt Hello)
    2. =0D
  2. On receipt of the client finished TLS packet
    3. =0D
=0D

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As neither of these options are preferred, the importance of the defin= ition of connection establishment is highlighted even more. My request is= , if a clear answer has already been thought out, to add a more verbose d= escription of what connection establishment actually means in this situat= ion.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -994,6 +994,14 @@ packets sent from only one local address.  An endpoint that migrates away from a
 local address SHOULD retire all connection IDs used on that address once it no
 longer plans to use that address.
 
+The endpoint can explicitly request its peer to retire connection IDs by sending
+a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame that contains a Retire Prior To field.  The peer is
+required to retire these connection IDs in a timely manner.  On receipt of the
+acknowledgement for the packet that contained the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame, the
+endpoint may start a 3 PTO timer, which on expiring may close the connection
+with a PROTOCOL_VIOLATION error if all the connection IDs were not retired as
+requested.
+

I would also prefer a requirement that the peer MUST change CIDs immediately. I heard push back on that design. I would like to hear reasons why that wouldn't be a good idea, if anyone has some.

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----==_mimepart_5cf7d14651987_68d93fcd3fccd96c22142-- From nobody Wed Jun 5 07:34:45 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A414120120 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2019 07:34:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.424 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.424 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.415, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DGHp3BCG70r5 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2019 07:34:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EAE4F120114 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2019 07:34:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2019 07:34:39 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1559745279; bh=ni8f2/fCItJwyRtJvA2jVPZfIVmr0W0KcHi1PtE4YIg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ZLNt99TxFg7vRJbQlOsqW3DGFHxi1RfLr4b9rQB5CZw45Rs400Ye6WEbfUSZy3w7O DQgbQMEcE/cR8dzRxprMbc3ywV/N46yyumtR9BLa+5aOqhxIS+xZCR3AHgJjtIv6FD PAmNmE2Jqf2OQDe/864EXwuHp9XPW99dcnocLrCU= From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Request to Retire Locally Issued CIDs (#2769) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cf7d2ffd1c91_40c3fc6b8ecd95c30579"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2019 14:34:43 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cf7d2ffd1c91_40c3fc6b8ecd95c30579 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks @ianswett @martinthomson @kazuho for your feedback. I have made some changes, making the Retire Prior To field required, so we only have one frame again, added more 2119 language, cleaned up the text on ignoring reductions in the Retire Prior To field, and made it a protocol violation to have Retire Prior To greater than or equal to Sequence Number. @ianswett on your request to require the difference between the Retire Prior To field and Sequence Number field to be no greater than active_connection_id_limit, that would mean the sender has to keep track of both what's the highest retired sequence number retired by the peer and what it wants locally, and the max of those two values in this field. I'm not sure the extra complexity for keep track of that is worth the cost. What benefit do you see in that requirement? @martinthomson on the topic of the handshake and preferred address CIDs, I thought we already had text that implicitly assigned them sequence numbers. Is that not the case? What text beyond that would you like me to add? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2769#issuecomment-499109697 ----==_mimepart_5cf7d2ffd1c91_40c3fc6b8ecd95c30579 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thanks @ianswett @martinthomson @kazuho for your feedback. I have made some changes, making the Retire Prior T= o field required, so we only have one frame again, added more 2119 langua= ge, cleaned up the text on ignoring reductions in the Retire Prior To fie= ld, and made it a protocol violation to have Retire Prior To greater than= or equal to Sequence Number.

@ianswett on your request to require the difference betwee= n the Retire Prior To field and Sequence Number field to be no greater th= an active_connection_id_limit, that would mean the sender has to keep tra= ck of both what's the highest retired sequence number retired by the peer= and what it wants locally, and the max of those two values in this field= . I'm not sure the extra complexity for keep track of that is worth the c= ost. What benefit do you see in that requirement?

@martinthomson on the topic of the handshake and preferr= ed address CIDs, I thought we already had text that implicitly assigned t= hem sequence numbers. Is that not the case? What text beyond that would y= ou like me to add?

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -167,15 +167,8 @@ fields (some of them with an empty value).  The dynamic table (see
 {{table-dynamic}}) is built up over the course of the connection and can be used
 by the encoder to index header fields in the encoded header lists.
 
-QPACK instructions appear in three different types of streams:
-
-- The encoder uses a unidirectional stream to modify the state of the dynamic
-table without emitting header fields associated with any particular request.
-
-- Header blocks reference the table state without modifying it.
-
-- The decoder sends feedback to the encoder on a unidirectional stream.  This
-feedback enables the encoder to manage dynamic table state.
+QPACK defines unidirectional streams for sending instructions from encoder to
+decoder and vice-versa.

s/vice-versa/vice versa/ as per https://www.grammarly.com/blog/vice-versa/

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LGTM. Thank you, Alan, for this editorial overhaul greatly improving clarity! I have no design concerns, and all my editorial comments are minor nits, so I'll wait for this to be merged and then proofread the whole document front to back and create a separate PR.

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I think either of the following two approaches could be a good path forward (discussing here rather than on the PR): 1. The current PR, each new connection ID comes with a "retire CIDs before sequence number X", which keeps us from having issues around holes in the set of valid sequence numbers for a CID. This is kind of nice, because we can be a little looser with how we handle being at the max number of CIDs and needing to send some more/add new ones. Example: I want to retire all the CIDs that are outstanding. I've issued 1, 2, 3, 4 in NCID frames and we've got the handshake at 0. I send a single packet with: ``` NCID(retireBefore: 1, CID: 5) NCID(retireBefore: 2, CID: 6) NCID(retireBefore: 3, CID: 7) NCID(retireBefore: 4, CID: 8) NCID(retireBefore: 5, CID: 9) ``` Note that sending `retireBefore: 5` for all could be specified as valid or invalid, although if valid it doesn't really help with requiring replacement. We'd also then want to consider writing a bunch of other somewhat messy text to require retiring them in order from oldest to newest, which seems somewhat icky. 2. A new frame for just the retire side, called something like `PLEASE_RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID`. - This would be a request, and an endpoint receiving it SHOULD retire immediately, along with a warning that the other endpoint may choose to close the connection if it doesn't. - The endpoint also SHOULD move to a new CID if the one it's currently using is requested to be retired. - It's probably worth being a little bit careful about how strongly we make not moving a protocol violation, because it seems like it wouldn't be too difficult for an endpoint whose peer had to migrate off the one it was currently using to end up receiving packets from the old CID for a good while/draining period. If we do (2), in order to have the guarantee that they're replaced, we should just include that all `PLEASE_RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID` frames MUST also be accompanied by a `NEW_CONNECTION_ID` frame, and have the receiver close the connection if that's not the case. (Timing/[not] keeping things in the same packet strikes me as a part of the text here that needs to be written carefully.) Same example from above: ``` PRCID(retireAllBefore: 5) NCID(5) NCID(6) NCID(7) NCID(8) NCID(9) ``` In my mind, the common text between both approaches is: - The endpoint being asked to retire CIDs SHOULD retire them immediately, and move to a new CID if necessary. If not, the other end MAY close the connection (plus note about not being *too* aggressive here to handle draining). - The endpoint asking to retire them MUST replace them. If not, the other end closes. - How we handle "bad" sequence numbers being sent (too low, also a little weird to send a number higher than the peer's limit away from what's active). - How you handle when you're at the max specified by the peer's limit - Any preferred address and handshake CIDs should probably explicitly be called out as affected, although they do have sequence numbers - If someone requests to retire CIDs that you haven't seen yet, you respond to `NEW_CONNECTION_ID` frames containing them by immediately retiring them. This doesn't add too much state since you just need to keep a single counter of the highest invalid/lowest valid sequence number. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2645#issuecomment-499176700 ----==_mimepart_5cf7fa0ee3693_5cf63f8f218cd968176761 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Thanks for writing up #2769 @nibanks!
I think either of the following two approaches could be a good path forward (discussing here rather than on the PR):

  1. The current PR, each new connection ID comes with a "retire CIDs before sequence number X", which keeps us from having issues around holes in the set of valid sequence numbers for a CID.
    This is kind of nice, because we can be a little looser with how we handle being at the max number of CIDs and needing to send some more/add new ones.

Example:
I want to retire all the CIDs that are outstanding. I've issued 1, 2, 3, 4 in NCID frames and we've got the handshake at 0. I send a single packet with:

NCID(retireBefore: 1, CID: 5)
NCID(retireBefore: 2, CID: 6)
NCID(retireBefore: 3, CID: 7)
NCID(retireBefore: 4, CID: 8)
NCID(retireBefore: 5, CID: 9)

Note that sending retireBefore: 5 for all could be specified as valid or invalid, although if valid it doesn't really help with requiring replacement. We'd also then want to consider writing a bunch of other somewhat messy text to require retiring them in order from oldest to newest, which seems somewhat icky.

  1. A new frame for just the retire side, called something like PLEASE_RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID.
  • This would be a request, and an endpoint receiving it SHOULD retire immediately, along with a warning that the other endpoint may choose to close the connection if it doesn't.
  • The endpoint also SHOULD move to a new CID if the one it's currently using is requested to be retired.
  • It's probably worth being a little bit careful about how strongly we make not moving a protocol violation, because it seems like it wouldn't be too difficult for an endpoint whose peer had to migrate off the one it was currently using to end up receiving packets from the old CID for a good while/draining period.

If we do (2), in order to have the guarantee that they're replaced, we should just include that all PLEASE_RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames MUST also be accompanied by a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame, and have the receiver close the connection if that's not the case. (Timing/[not] keeping things in the same packet strikes me as a part of the text here that needs to be written carefully.)

Same example from above:

PRCID(retireAllBefore: 5)
NCID(5)
NCID(6)
NCID(7)
NCID(8)
NCID(9)

In my mind, the common text between both approaches is:

  • The endpoint being asked to retire CIDs SHOULD retire them immediately, and move to a new CID if necessary. If not, the other end MAY close the connection (plus note about not being too aggressive here to handle draining).
  • The endpoint asking to retire them MUST replace them. If not, the other end closes.
  • How we handle "bad" sequence numbers being sent (too low, also a little weird to send a number higher than the peer's limit away from what's active).
  • How you handle when you're at the max specified by the peer's limit
  • Any preferred address and handshake CIDs should probably explicitly be called out as affected, although they do have sequence numbers
  • If someone requests to retire CIDs that you haven't seen yet, you respond to NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames containing them by immediately retiring them. This doesn't add too much state since you just need to keep a single counter of the highest invalid/lowest valid sequence number.

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Thanks for writing this up!
Specific to this text (see additional discussion on the issue):

I don't think that we need any requirement about the distance between RetirePriorTo/SequenceNumber active_connection_id_limit. Setting a super high value would be a bit nonsensical, so some non-normative text explaining why doing that is a complete waste of everyone's time would be good, but it doesn't actually break anything. Saying "hey this is silly, consider that limit when you set this" is probably good enough just to make implementors aware of the foot gun.

To the point about handshake and preferred address CIDs, I think it would be nice to have some text just as a reminder along the lines of "don't forget these have sequence numbers too" to help folks avoid confusion.

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@erickinnear why couldn't we make it a "MUST immediately retire" instead of a SHOULD? What reasons would an endpoint have to ACK the packets but not retire the CIDs at the same time?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2345,7 +2345,7 @@ following layout:
  0                   1                   2                   3
  0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
-|0|1|               Unpredictable Bits (182..)                ...
+|0|1|               Unpredictable Bits (422..)                ...

OK, if you agree that this issue is non-blocking I'll proceed.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1794,9 +1793,10 @@ addresses (IP address and port), such as those caused by an
 endpoint migrating to a new network.  This section describes the process by
 which an endpoint migrates to a new address.
 
-An endpoint MUST NOT initiate connection migration before the handshake is
-finished and the endpoint has 1-RTT keys.  The design of QUIC relies on
+The design of QUIC relies on

nit: Please reflow this paragraph so this is a full line.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4984,6 +4994,12 @@ Sequence Number:
 : The sequence number assigned to the connection ID by the sender.  See
   {{issue-cid}}.
 
+Retire Prior To:
+
+: A variable-length integer specifying the limit, for which all connection IDs
+  assigned to the receiver that have a sequence number less this value should be

less "than" this value?

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@LPardue : have a look at my attached editorial PR. I think I've addressed a lot of the concerns here that weren't addressed previously:

I eliminated as many references as I could to request/push streams and instead refer to header blocks. There's nothing preventing an extension from carrying header blocks in other kinds of frames and streams for example.

I got rid of the bulleted list awkwardness that was regurgitating the same text from the overview section.

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----==_mimepart_5cf8611e48519_6cf33fdf7f8cd964262496-- From nobody Wed Jun 5 17:51:07 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9765112004C for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2019 17:51:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.806 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.806 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.415, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9EXV5HYgrJ75 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2019 17:51:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C9B17120045 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2019 17:51:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2019 17:51:02 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1559782262; bh=eytu6988ohZty00fWXHlj1bNV7N7pusJZE2TDKmo6o4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=omlJklTnVp94q/tUipYSy2gK2AzzZvWSBg8PjpBs5e1YPXmsz3rQwu03ALBaKMGen wxEJWhoEw3fbgCqVK1rCX52QKFUajjpZWe38MiCjNzuX2/nX92K9XxilvM/j6Htj8l pSWKgxf8Q0rQcKbJDwwCA9BFClmfp5h+A9fHAzK8= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] allow PRIORITY frames referring to placeholders exceeding `SETTING_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` (#2761) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cf863766c5a2_cf03f8157acd95c306a1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2019 00:51:06 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cf863766c5a2_cf03f8157acd95c306a1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @rmarx Thank you for the comments. I see several folks argue for having lower bound for SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS; I've updated the PR to say "at least 32". It is still a SHOULD rather than a MUST, based on the perception that changing it to a MUST just incentivizes the servers to lie about it's capability, which reduces the usefulness of SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2761#issuecomment-499307975 ----==_mimepart_5cf863766c5a2_cf03f8157acd95c306a1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@rmarx Thank you for the comments. I see several folks argue for having lower bound for SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS; I've updated the PR to say "at least 32".

It is still a SHOULD rather than a MUST, based on the perception that changing it to a MUST just incentivizes the servers to lie about it's capability, which reduces the usefulness of SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1202,9 +1202,17 @@ The following situations are examples of invalid PRIORITY frames:
 A PRIORITY frame with Empty bits not set to zero MAY be treated as a connection
 error of type HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME.
 
-A PRIORITY frame that references a non-existent Push ID, a Placeholder ID
-greater than the server's limit, or a Stream ID the client is not yet permitted
-to open MUST be treated as a connection error of type HTTP_LIMIT_EXCEEDED.
+A PRIORITY frame that references a non-existent Push ID, or a Stream ID the
+client is not yet permitted to open MUST be treated as a connection error of
+type HTTP_LIMIT_EXCEEDED.
+
+A PRIORITY frame MAY reference a Placeholder ID that is equal to or greater than
+the server's advertised value of the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` settings.  When
+receiving a PRIORITY frame with its prioritized element set to such a
+placeholder, the server SHOULD discard the frame without making any change to
+the priority tree.  When receiving a PRIORITY frame with its element dependency
+set to such a placeholder, the server SHOULD update the priority tree with the
+root of the tree being the dependency instead.

I agree that this is debatable.

The reason I've chosen "root" as the starting point of this PR is because it is the behavior defined in HTTP/2; I think we should try to retain similarity if possible (unless / until we decide to adopt a very different design). Note that orphan placeholder is still useful regardless of this; the placeholder minimizes the negative impact when PRIORITY frames on the control stream gets lost.

Hopefully, this point becomes a less of an issue once we recommend some sensible minimum for SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS; essentially guiding servers to support either none or at least 32 (or something alike).

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I agree that this is an unnecessary complexity, and I think #2753 might solve the issue.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2304,13 +2304,25 @@ the application requests that the connection be closed.  The application
 protocol can use an CONNECTION_CLOSE frame with an appropriate error code to
 signal closure.
 
-If the connection has been successfully established, endpoints MUST send any
-CONNECTION_CLOSE frames in a 1-RTT packet.  Prior to connection establishment a
-peer might not have 1-RTT keys, so endpoints SHOULD send CONNECTION_CLOSE frames
-in a Handshake packet.  If the endpoint does not have Handshake keys, or it is
-not certain that the peer has Handshake keys, it MAY send CONNECTION_CLOSE
-frames in an Initial packet.  If multiple packets are sent, they can be
-coalesced (see {{packet-coalesce}}) to facilitate retransmission.
+When sending CONNECTION_CLOSE, the goal is to ensure that a peer will process
+the frame.  Generally, this means sending the frame in a packet with the highest
+level of packet protection to avoid the packet being discarded.  However, during
+the handshake, it is possible that more advanced packet protection keys are not
+available to a peer, so the frame MAY be replicated in a packet that uses a
+lower packet protection level.

The point was to articulate the principles behind the design. It might be that the mechanics are sufficiently precise that that is not necessary, but we did have #2151. @ianswett's changes didn't really directly address that.

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Yes, there are a lot of places where the sizes are mere suggestions rather than concrete requirements. That's intentional. We could just say "oh well", but the problem here is that the gap between min and max has increased dramatically as a result of #2749. That makes the choice to pad to a size that will trigger a stateless reset a harder call.

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I agree that atomicity is important here, if we want to avoid the situation where all connections IDs are retired at the same time. Adding the field to the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame as @kazuho suggested seems to be the most straightforward way to do so.

I'm not a big fan of the 3 PTO requirement here. I don't see why it shouldn't be possible to retire the connections immediately when receiving the frame. There's a DoS risk here: if an attacker delays a packet with a connection ID that was retired afterwards, it can cause either a stateless reset or even a PROTOCOL_VIOLATION. The better way to enforce the retiring of the connection IDs is to look at packet numbers: The old connection IDs MUST NOT be used in packets with higher packet numbers than the packet that acknowledged the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame.

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The better way to enforce the retiring of the connection IDs is to look at packet numbers: The old connection IDs MUST NOT be used in packets with higher packet numbers than the packet that acknowledged the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame.

Am I correct in understanding that this is the way key update works? Assuming that is the case, my +1 goes here.

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Am I correct in understanding that this is the way key update works? Assuming that is the case, my +1 goes here.

I think that's an implementation decision. You could certainly enforce this by requiring that PN(packet sent with old connection IDs) < PN(first packet received with new connection ID). This doesn't stop a peer from acknowledging the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame, but never acting on it though.

Another way to implement this would be to enforce that PN(packet sent with old connection ID) < PN(ACK for NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame). This would be a somewhat stricter way, since it doesn't allow the peer to ignore the frame (without inducing artificial packet loss).

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----==_mimepart_5cf8cc0b87728_296e3fbbe7ccd96c672243-- From nobody Thu Jun 6 04:24:31 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 016C112004F for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2019 04:24:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.605 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.605 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HqdWOwH0Umfc for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2019 04:24:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F2AEB12004C for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2019 04:24:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2019 04:24:26 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1559820266; bh=c0zIfUao+SsK3T21lnxouP+Oh9enBdrtE2sK4ubq0nY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=VX8vInB+cfDHVdZAowywBQFqo4uAQKIa9zRFBjdXF4p/tLnXNRCa3kFJgDuoZ+p6I k0GfNcfqY1YCcag8XZ1aLFcq3yYO+GmdIkG/2xHHMWVG6/zNEAiqM1pduartm2ylRx xhYmUQ+TwwvLI4lC6RGM9Y3rNJSC51NQ15Jxj0uo= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Request to Retire Locally Issued CIDs (#2769) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cf8f7ea9eabf_139a3fb18d8cd95c1418e9"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2019 11:24:30 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cf8f7ea9eabf_139a3fb18d8cd95c1418e9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The better way to enforce the retiring of the connection IDs is to look at packet numbers: The old connection IDs MUST NOT be used in packets with higher packet numbers than the packet that acknowledged the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame. I think this solves the problem since I really dislike that a delayed packet, 3PTO or otherwise, can take down a connection. However, I also dislike that this is coupled strongly to ACK behaviour. I'm not sure how key updates work but assuming it does not use ACK, ACK handling can run asynchronously in a separate task, and indeed this is how I would architect a high performance implementation. Then one could send a dedicated frame to acknowledge receiving the retire frame, but that is pointless since any packet using the new CID would have that effect. So for the time being I don't have a good answer to this. Altogether, if this facility opens up to DoS attacks and prevents ACK handling from running asynchronously, I think it does more harm than good and should at least be moved to v2 giving more time to consider the implications. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2769#issuecomment-499455400 ----==_mimepart_5cf8f7ea9eabf_139a3fb18d8cd95c1418e9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The better way to enforce the retiring of the connection IDs is to look at packet numbers: The old connection IDs MUST NOT be used in packets with higher packet numbers than the packet that acknowledged the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame.

I think this solves the problem since I really dislike that a delayed packet, 3PTO or otherwise, can take down a connection.

However, I also dislike that this is coupled strongly to ACK behaviour. I'm not sure how key updates work but assuming it does not use ACK, ACK handling can run asynchronously in a separate task, and indeed this is how I would architect a high performance implementation.

Then one could send a dedicated frame to acknowledge receiving the retire frame, but that is pointless since any packet using the new CID would have that effect.

So for the time being I don't have a good answer to this.

Altogether, if this facility opens up to DoS attacks and prevents ACK handling from running asynchronously, I think it does more harm than good and should at least be moved to v2 giving more time to consider the implications.

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@nibanks in some implementations the ACK logic is not next to the connection ID management logic. For some of these implementations it would be very hard to ensure that the ACK isn't sent with the CID you'd like to retire. "MUST immediately retire" would add significant complexity to those implementations for very limited benefit.

Also, having the use of a CID you've asked to retire trigger a protocol violation is a security risk. It allows an attacker to close the connection by delaying a valid packet.

I like the idea of adding a Retire Prior To field in NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames, but we should make it advisory and not mandatory. Sending it tells the peer that if they keep sending with this CID packets might not get through at some point. But I don't think we should have MUSTs, immediatelys or protocol violations involved.

Is there any reason that wouldn't serve the needs of your use case?

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I argued about the same as @DavidSchinazi in the associated PR.

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----==_mimepart_5cf90c581eda4_71fb3fedc5ecd9643400f8-- From nobody Thu Jun 6 06:22:55 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61AA81200F9 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2019 06:22:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.02 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.02 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.415, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 46enz_W6a9zn for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2019 06:22:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 882D912007C for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2019 06:22:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2019 06:22:50 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1559827370; bh=7pXq4PMh9q/cs5rvZHqJkdOWnt4bWBthiiCnKIEjyW8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=C8S3KbjWH0u1rG9SZK89z06s/vUAgU43Vt2uaom+PUVEBboW1cCRbyUYWk/Kgtxio HevLJnE6e1hK7GS6DTbQbpQcnsjs/Yri6IQtgVDopDbGOOLHO7+aGrkgbLcvuIGrZa wUcIKSByYq3gStA6oVqb/p8scRfvm7r4r+ObVIcg= From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cf913aa588e3_27ea3f998bacd960208918"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2019 13:22:54 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cf913aa588e3_27ea3f998bacd960208918 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm going to try to answer all the comments/questions from both the Issue and the PR here, so as to not clutter up the PR. It now seems that most people actually prefer the immediate switch of the CIDs instead of allowing for delay. I agree key update is a good example / pattern to follow here. You get a packet with the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame to replace existing CIDs, you locally update all CIDs and then you mark the packet for ACK. @DavidSchinazi I understand that some implementations might have extra difficulties, but I'm not sure why it would be that much different from key update. Additionally, you only ACK a packet after it has been fully processed, so if you process the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame before the "packet fully processed state" and update CIDs there, then there shouldn't be an order of operations problem. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2645#issuecomment-499491414 ----==_mimepart_5cf913aa588e3_27ea3f998bacd960208918 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I'm going to try to answer all the comments/questions from both the Issue and the PR here, so as to not clutter up the PR.

It now seems that most people actually prefer the immediate switch of the CIDs instead of allowing for delay. I agree key update is a good example / pattern to follow here. You get a packet with the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame to replace existing CIDs, you locally update all CIDs and then you mark the packet for ACK.

@DavidSchinazi I understand that some implementations might have extra difficulties, but I'm not sure why it would be that much different from key update. Additionally, you only ACK a packet after it has been fully processed, so if you process the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame before the "packet fully processed state" and update CIDs there, then there shouldn't be an order of operations problem.

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----==_mimepart_5cf913aa588e3_27ea3f998bacd960208918-- From nobody Thu Jun 6 10:29:48 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B32C21200B6 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2019 10:29:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MG8Z9HRmncEn for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2019 10:29:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-18.smtp.github.com (out-18.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 845DC120099 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2019 10:29:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2019 10:29:43 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1559842183; bh=6grLLDZ/cBMXqKcxdOnzuVs6AT/nITRZ23u9sCP3ZV4=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=MuPSW5cdScD+NhV23YXOmtcmQbl1AKaarAJq0vCMUWVPTDDObq6Icm55ZlJQsxPen p0kCM4kyprylwXqdEMVNZHwg5fDhIfa8JZSeZ1mfq6/vMtP5T56r5t3V+EpuzgPPwF KZsvQqLU3tBJ8yTTXMi3f3A9ASwl6cZKsnwu4sNQ= From: Mike Bishop To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] a876d6: Don't mandate zero server-initiated bidi streams Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2019 17:29:46 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/http/no-server-bidi Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: a876d60db603336defe28ea860f2db9b43aad52b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a876d60db603336defe28ea860f2db9b43aad52b Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2019-06-06 (Thu, 06 Jun 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- Don't mandate zero server-initiated bidi streams From nobody Thu Jun 6 10:31:04 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B644F12006B for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2019 10:31:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ECtdTQkZASwr for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2019 10:31:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F33E12001E for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2019 10:31:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2019 10:31:00 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1559842260; bh=Bl8/MS3BPuCsMI6sQihWkM2jqOYL+hevZhbfioXdQPU=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=FqyBIjtIzDF577m/qKpK6SKJEZ1oLkjLZ9FZB9naudpcz1/ySZIFSRY9rz9OPfnvg +iPXM0SWhPObaP02BHYD5dSCZqEWOsf7FTYBC1HuRQKO41lEgpiTjT9eVcWYnw6YnT jdcTQE+CX0NA5C5htRHbbGjCYrtznjnOpmXxLeJo= From: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] 6337c5: Script updating gh-pages from a876d60d. 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Removes the mandate that clients send a TP of zero for `initial_max_bidi_streams` and replaces it with an error on stream open unless there's an extension permitting it. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2773 -- Commit Summary -- * Don't mandate zero server-initiated bidi streams -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (8) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2773.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2773.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2773 ----==_mimepart_5cf94e15dfe0a_5a153fbcefecd95c22831c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Fixes #2711 per London discussion. Removes the mandate that clients send a TP of zero for initial_max_bidi_streams and replaces it with an error on stream open unless there's an extension permitting it.

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[ci skip] From nobody Thu Jun 6 10:38:02 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9AB51200B6 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2019 10:38:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.806 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.806 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.415, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hwAgzqWVodBA for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2019 10:37:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 470A612008A for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2019 10:37:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2019 10:37:58 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1559842678; bh=6c5OwPAVjRj+9dHpSUzq2ik67cw9sVO2xqgeld+KX9U=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Jx+/bDucjUfEpaMXS0wdJzli2+PB+IaXgFh6G5Dy2LBbcfBXuHrwvASDqlP1AotA8 hGlBhbR4cxaLSp2MQOmk74UxwtsQRiR69Sx7nrQ7BGp/5oHVOK6iWdqMj5P94vX6mI +JtAiTN/C/v0g3KiW02EQkoC0mTvlKOcwnzZIu3k= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Re-visit initial keys discard (#2741) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cf94f761caf4_44453f96186cd96c38788d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2019 17:38:01 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cf94f761caf4_44453f96186cd96c38788d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That would address one of @nibanks's scenarios for which he needs #2645. I don't believe it would entirely remove that requirement. However, I don't believe that's the same as this issue; that might warrant a separate issue. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2741#issuecomment-499594765 ----==_mimepart_5cf94f761caf4_44453f96186cd96c38788d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

That would address one of @nibanks's scenarios for which he needs #2645. I don't believe it would entirely remove that requirement. However, I don't believe that's the same as this issue; that might warrant a separate issue.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1721,7 +1721,12 @@ it can associate the peer's response with the corresponding PATH_CHALLENGE.
 ## Path Validation Responses
 
 On receiving a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, an endpoint MUST respond immediately by
-echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame.
+echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame,
+unless it has PATH_RESPONSE frames buffered for the same destination connection
+ID and wishes to limit memory consumption.
+
+An endpoint MUST NOT store or retransmit a PATH_RESPONSE frame, as a new
+PATH_CHALLENGE frame will be sent if another PATH_RESPONSE frame is needed.

There's no point in putting multiple PATH_RESPONSEs in a single packet, nor in responding to more than one PATH_CHALLENGE from a given packet. The others can just be ignored. However, multiple attempts across multiple packets increases resiliency -- if you get 100 PATH_CHALLENGEs in 100 packets, I'd say you send back 100 PATH_RESPONSEs in 100 packets.

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@MikeBishop approved this pull request.

There's one nit which implies a design question; once that's settled one way or another, I'm happy with this.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -912,10 +912,20 @@ Endpoints that set low values for the QUIC transport parameters
 chance that the remote peer reaches the limit early and becomes blocked. In
 particular, the value chosen for `initial_max_uni_streams` should consider that
 remote peers may wish to exercise reserved stream behaviour ({{stream-grease}}).
-To reduce the likelihood of blocking, both clients and servers SHOULD send a
-value of three or greater for the QUIC transport parameter
-`initial_max_uni_streams`, and a value of 1,024 or greater for the QUIC
-transport parameter `initial_max_stream_data_uni`.
+To reduce the likelihood of blocking, both clients and servers MUST allow
+the peer to create one unidirectional stream for the HTTP control stream plus
+the number of unidirectional streams required by mandatory extensions (such as
+QPACK), by setting an appropriate value for the QUIC transport parameter

This comma doesn't flow as-is. I'd try one of the following:

  • remove it ("...MUST allow ... by setting an appropriate value....")
  • make it a lead-in to options ("...MUST allow [...], either by setting an appropriate value for [...] or by sending a MAX_STREAMS frame immediately after opening the connection.")
  • split into a new sentence ("...MUST allow [...]. This can be done by setting....")

The implicit question in those options is whether omitting the TP and immediately sending a MAX_STREAMS frame is acceptable behavior.

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All the text currently there is correct, but it was missing the required behavior on receipt of this parameter. That is, as agreed in London, you SHOULD NOT send a larger header than the peer's indicated limit since it will likely just error out anyway. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2774 -- Commit Summary -- * Discuss max-header-list-size from the other side -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (12) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2774.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2774.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2774 ----==_mimepart_5cf95b555d39f_7c8f3faf33ccd9645245ac Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Fixes #2516. All the text currently there is correct, but it was missing the required behavior on receipt of this parameter. That is, as agreed in London, you SHOULD NOT send a larger header than the peer's indicated limit since it will likely just error out anyway.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2774

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -912,10 +912,20 @@ Endpoints that set low values for the QUIC transport parameters
 chance that the remote peer reaches the limit early and becomes blocked. In
 particular, the value chosen for `initial_max_uni_streams` should consider that
 remote peers may wish to exercise reserved stream behaviour ({{stream-grease}}).
-To reduce the likelihood of blocking, both clients and servers SHOULD send a
-value of three or greater for the QUIC transport parameter
-`initial_max_uni_streams`, and a value of 1,024 or greater for the QUIC
-transport parameter `initial_max_stream_data_uni`.
+To reduce the likelihood of blocking, both clients and servers MUST allow
+the peer to create one unidirectional stream for the HTTP control stream plus
+the number of unidirectional streams required by mandatory extensions (such as
+QPACK), by setting an appropriate value for the QUIC transport parameter

I'd say you have to put it in the TP. What is the possible reason an implementation would have for setting inital_max_uni_streams to less than 3 and making up for it with MAX_STREAMS? What if the packet containing MAX_STREAMS is lost?

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[ci skip] From nobody Thu Jun 6 13:19:14 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51D9C1200B9 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2019 13:19:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HZf-wb8AV84C for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2019 13:19:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 292AC12009C for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2019 13:19:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2019 13:19:09 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1559852349; bh=XS7vBLv+QrYimbGqqFFheAdft6PsRdNF3Sh2vzQkYO0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ZdwZ/Iiw3Pe0IzzHQIJYMt5au/dOSj2Ay6JAw6gr7JvU0wSxcv1RdeSG6zp+PVZjY 5nBEU9mSjsmvT+elSFVREuvJNfkX8bfL4vfNoAN7akmNptoWXfmKtF44ohhTmpbvzl n3wH5h3q7TGoyKXlHGKI8iBunO4/hq1rJbIe52jA= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Request to Retire Locally Issued CIDs (#2769) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cf9753d1060f_6c1e3fc5f10cd964193969"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2019 20:19:12 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cf9753d1060f_6c1e3fc5f10cd964193969 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MikeBishop commented on this pull request.=0D =0D This is straddling the line between "request" (5037) and "require" (998).= Pick one. Given that you're going to kill the connection if they don't= comply, "request" doesn't seem like a strong enough statement here. But= the issuer only MAY kill the connection if the peer doesn't comply, so..= .. =F0=9F=A4=B7=E2=80=8D=E2=99=80=EF=B8=8F=0D =0D If connection destruction is the intended result, go stronger. You SHOUL= D set the timer and blow up the connection if it expires; you MUST retire= the CIDs upon receipt of an increased RPT field.=0D =0D > @@ -994,6 +994,14 @@ packets sent from only one local address. An endp= oint that migrates away from a=0D local address SHOULD retire all connection IDs used on that address once= it no=0D longer plans to use that address.=0D =0D +The endpoint can explicitly request its peer to retire connection IDs by= sending=0D +a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame that contains a Retire Prior To field. The pe= er is=0D +required to retire these connection IDs in a timely manner. On receipt = of the=0D +acknowledgement for the packet that contained the NEW_CONNECTION_ID fram= e, the=0D +endpoint may start a 3 PTO timer, which on expiring may close the connec= tion=0D +with a PROTOCOL_VIOLATION error if all the connection IDs were not retir= ed as=0D +requested.=0D +=0D =0D Mostly because "change immediately" is a difficult requirement to police.= Couching it in more concrete terms -- error on use of this CID in a pac= ket with a higher packet number than the one which carried the ACK -- mak= es it easier to police in theory, but highlights what different parts of = the system have to be coordinated to do it in practice.=0D =0D Frankly, I'd even be okay with no longer recognizing those CIDs 3xPTO aft= er sending the frame. Fewer moving parts, easy to understand, but a smal= l risk of stateless reset if the packet is severely delayed.=0D =0D -- =0D You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.=0D Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub:=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2769#pullrequestreview-2467893= 55= ----==_mimepart_5cf9753d1060f_6c1e3fc5f10cd964193969 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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This is straddling the line between "request" (5037) and "require" (99= 8). Pick one. Given that you're going to kill the connection if they do= n't comply, "request" doesn't seem like a strong enough statement here. = But the issuer only MAY kill the connection if the peer doesn't comply, s= o.... =F0=9F=A4=B7=E2=80=8D=E2=99=80=EF=B8=8F

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If connection destruction is the intended result, go stronger. You SH= OULD set the timer and blow up the connection if it expires; you MUST ret= ire the CIDs upon receipt of an increased RPT field.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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Mostly because "change immediately" is a difficult requirement to poli= ce. Couching it in more concrete terms -- error on use of this CID in a = packet with a higher packet number than the one which carried the ACK -- = makes it easier to police in theory, but highlights what different parts = of the system have to be coordinated to do it in practice.

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Frankly, I'd even be okay with no longer recognizing those CIDs 3xPTO = after sending the frame. Fewer moving parts, easy to understand, but a s= mall risk of stateless reset if the packet is severely delayed.

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@ianswett, the problem is that the sequence can be sparse. The client isn't required to use the CIDs in order any more, IIRC; so you could have four outstanding CIDs, but your four are sequence numbers (2, 127, 324, 324). Nick wants to expire everything prior to 300 and he's tired of waiting for you to use and discard the two early ones.

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@MikeBishop I'm all for making it immediate and adding stronger language. That's exactly what I wanted to do in the first place. Initially, I was getting push back though, so I relaxed it a bit. I agree it's a bit too wishy-washy in its current form. Unless anyone has reasons why they can't or shouldn't update immediately I will go ahead and strengthen the text.

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I think the main reason not to be totally immediate is when you have some distributed processing generating packets. You might not be able to guarantee that every thread/process generating packets can stop using those CIDs immediately. However, we already went through that with the RETIRE_CID discussion -- sending RETIRE is supposed to be the signal that you've hit your sync point and will not use them any more.

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----==_mimepart_5cf97d51953d_2d173f89c66cd95c9605b-- From nobody Thu Jun 6 13:58:44 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96AEC12024E for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2019 13:58:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.605 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.605 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GL2O9P0ARlCa for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2019 13:58:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-22.smtp.github.com (out-22.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.205]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0727E1201A1 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2019 13:58:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2019 13:58:28 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1559854708; bh=Gkn6DNf+XZDc7QzA5ehQATToz0XchaVTM5+2rNfRLXg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=MDFHVOqPnz4Uu1t/9ROCjGEXuAdaYfg75PLqSvhXLaVFcWi9KKSWp2xRwRddvC8Fx XKlwxHYWS0DJ38UnUb9Nq8zaPa4GrRK9jc00uFaXsOUnLlG0S0/QxBGCB5Y0jA8Rp+ l8Gs4m1pbUU1XnX1bgpu9O9ryb8GQWBcXzwqI9Cs= From: Eric Kinnear Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Request to Retire Locally Issued CIDs (#2769) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cf97e74b7b04_5ac93f8ab86cd96411249e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: erickinnear X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2019 20:58:43 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cf97e74b7b04_5ac93f8ab86cd96411249e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Brainstorming times when it would be valuable to not change immediately: - Privacy, a client that wants to avoid linkability on different links shouldn't have to change all of its CIDs regardless of link immediately, since that would trivially link those different CIDs - If we have a server behind a load balancer and it wants to rotate keys, having every client connected to that individual server change CIDs right away could betray a bunch of information I don't know if we need to go as far as recommending that clients wait some amount of time, but we could potentially (in QUIC LB maybe?) recommend that servers rotate their clients not all at once. And clients might want to change on different interfaces at different times. I do like the idea of having a packet number cutoff when the client retires the CID to simplify things on the other end. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2769#issuecomment-499665095 ----==_mimepart_5cf97e74b7b04_5ac93f8ab86cd96411249e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Brainstorming times when it would be valuable to not change immediately:

  • Privacy, a client that wants to avoid linkability on different links shouldn't have to change all of its CIDs regardless of link immediately, since that would trivially link those different CIDs
  • If we have a server behind a load balancer and it wants to rotate keys, having every client connected to that individual server change CIDs right away could betray a bunch of information

I don't know if we need to go as far as recommending that clients wait some amount of time, but we could potentially (in QUIC LB maybe?) recommend that servers rotate their clients not all at once. And clients might want to change on different interfaces at different times.

I do like the idea of having a packet number cutoff when the client retires the CID to simplify things on the other end.

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----==_mimepart_5cf97e74b7b04_5ac93f8ab86cd96411249e-- From nobody Thu Jun 6 14:02:18 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66CA012011B for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2019 14:02:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.605 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.605 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P9g0RBBUcOs4 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2019 14:02:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A1686120136 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2019 14:02:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2019 14:02:13 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1559854933; bh=KEftxLnGXHMcxpPra0CuQ5kqoLQ1OSdFHoQ/mw8Pr7c=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=cCbJz6E0qFwRyCWjigwUGFRh1dX/bWOHa3WyZOLlw1p/eggv7G+27e8MCwtfM401n umCsLufc9RPjyelMWf/Dm8W0NPYQLVs9/s3CZqsDtFqP+TWVzNNDc/KcHUhXpDpdr1 PCuQUrMrpfLepwhm6RmlIMwjAWvjEknm9rXI1BKY= From: Eric Kinnear Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cf97f557c2c3_3eef3fc166ecd96819898"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: erickinnear X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2019 21:02:16 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cf97f557c2c3_3eef3fc166ecd96819898 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As @DavidSchinazi said: > Sending it tells the peer that if they keep sending with this CID packets might not get through at some point. Previously this had been proposed as a way to think about it, and I think it's probably the right balance to strike. You don't work to hurt the client if they don't switch right away, they may have reasons for a slight delay there. A client knows that the request from the other side serves as fair warning that the CID may not work indefinitely. It's still up to the client to use RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID and all of the draining logic there still applies -- we don't need to reinvent additional signals for that. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2645#issuecomment-499666254 ----==_mimepart_5cf97f557c2c3_3eef3fc166ecd96819898 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

As @DavidSchinazi said:

Sending it tells the peer that if they keep sending with this CID packets might not get through at some point.

Previously this had been proposed as a way to think about it, and I think it's probably the right balance to strike. You don't work to hurt the client if they don't switch right away, they may have reasons for a slight delay there. A client knows that the request from the other side serves as fair warning that the CID may not work indefinitely.

It's still up to the client to use RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID and all of the draining logic there still applies -- we don't need to reinvent additional signals for that.

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IIRC, the conclusion we reached on the CID design team was that:

  • When the client sends RETIRE, that's a statement that it has purged that CID and SRT; the CID will never be used again, and the SRT won't be recognized. The server can immediately declare that CID void upon receipt.
  • If an earlier packet got delayed, it will trigger a SR, because the server doesn't recognize the CID any more. This is also true if the client messed up and sends a later packet with the retired CID; the server will discard it.
  • The client will receive the server's reset, but not recognize it as such because the SRT isn't one that it knows any more.

The important thing is that the client has already deleted the SRT before sending the RETIRE and the server can safely purge state immediately upon receipt.

In this PR, I think we have the right model by letting the client have a little time to make sure those requirements are true before sending the RETIRE. You MUST retire the CIDs, but you're not obligated to do so instantly.

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It's acceptable but not ideal.

Didnt we just remove a mandatory TP in some unrelated change?

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The problem is that while you as a server can do that, the question here is what size packet the client needs to send to provoke that behavior from a generic server. And the server can't just base it on the CID size that it uses locally, because what really matters is size relative to other packets flowing in that direction, i.e. the client's CID. Which will often be zero, but can be immense and we need to account for that.

We currently say:

An endpoint can increase the odds that a packet will trigger a Stateless Reset if it cannot be processed by padding it to at least 40 bytes.

There's a crazy way out by embedding your own minimum CID size (either unencrypted or non-privately) in every packet so that a server can use that to determine whether it could safely send you a smaller SR. But adding an extra byte to all packets to save ~30 bytes per keepalive doesn't seem likely to work out well.

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@rmarx, the way I'm currently viewing it is that there are two tracks:

  • The QUIC WG is gamely plugging along on its charter to replicate HTTP/2 functionality in HTTP/3 modulo changes required by the nature of the QUIC transport.
  • In the meantime, the HTTP WG might come up with a way to replace/improve the one in HTTP/2. When they tell us what they want to use, we'll do it.

With my editor's hat on, only the first is my business unless and until the second one concludes. As an individual, I can and will go to HTTPbis and advocate for something better. But on this side of the fence, I still have to make progress on the first in case the second one derails. #2690, reverting initial PRIORITY and bringing back Exclusive dependencies gets us back closer to HTTP/2 equivalence and had general support at the interim. So that's our just-in-case position while we see what HTTPbis decides.

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Clients could potentially reference closed streams long after the server had discarded state, leading to disparate views of the prioritization the client had attempted to express. -In HTTP/3, a number of placeholders are explicitly permitted by the server using -the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` setting. Because the server commits to -maintaining these placeholders in the prioritization tree, clients can use them -with confidence that the server will not have discarded the state. Clients MUST -NOT send the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` setting; receipt of this setting by a -server MUST be treated as a connection error of type +In HTTP/3, placeholders are given their own number space that spans between zero +and 2^62-1. By using the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` setting, the server +advertises the range of placeholder IDs it is committing to maintain state, "advertises the number of placeholder IDs for which it is committing to maintain state." > @@ -613,17 +613,17 @@ tree could be discarded safely. Clients could potentially reference closed streams long after the server had discarded state, leading to disparate views of the prioritization the client had attempted to express. -In HTTP/3, a number of placeholders are explicitly permitted by the server using -the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` setting. Because the server commits to -maintaining these placeholders in the prioritization tree, clients can use them -with confidence that the server will not have discarded the state. Clients MUST -NOT send the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` setting; receipt of this setting by a -server MUST be treated as a connection error of type +In HTTP/3, placeholders are given their own number space that spans between zero +and 2^62-1. By using the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` setting, the server +advertises the range of placeholder IDs it is committing to maintain state, +which is between zero and one less than the value of this setting. Clients can +use the placeholders within this range with the confidence that the server will "can use placeholders with an ID less than the value of this setting with...." > @@ -1202,9 +1202,17 @@ The following situations are examples of invalid PRIORITY frames: A PRIORITY frame with Empty bits not set to zero MAY be treated as a connection error of type HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME. -A PRIORITY frame that references a non-existent Push ID, a Placeholder ID -greater than the server's limit, or a Stream ID the client is not yet permitted -to open MUST be treated as a connection error of type HTTP_LIMIT_EXCEEDED. +A PRIORITY frame that references a non-existent Push ID, or a Stream ID the ```suggestion A PRIORITY frame that references a non-existent Push ID or a Stream ID the ``` > @@ -1202,9 +1202,17 @@ The following situations are examples of invalid PRIORITY frames: A PRIORITY frame with Empty bits not set to zero MAY be treated as a connection error of type HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME. -A PRIORITY frame that references a non-existent Push ID, a Placeholder ID -greater than the server's limit, or a Stream ID the client is not yet permitted -to open MUST be treated as a connection error of type HTTP_LIMIT_EXCEEDED. +A PRIORITY frame that references a non-existent Push ID, or a Stream ID the +client is not yet permitted to open MUST be treated as a connection error of +type HTTP_LIMIT_EXCEEDED. + +A PRIORITY frame MAY reference a Placeholder ID that is equal to or greater than +the server's advertised value of the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` settings. When +receiving a PRIORITY frame with its prioritized element set to such a +placeholder, the server SHOULD discard the frame without making any change to +the priority tree. When receiving a PRIORITY frame with its element dependency +set to such a placeholder, the server SHOULD update the priority tree with the +root of the tree being the dependency instead. I feel like the orphan makes more sense -- just because the client is assigning *a* priority doesn't imply that it's assigning a *high* priority. The implication would be that clients should build the priority tree with higher-priority placeholders having a lower placeholder ID. At some point, the placeholder IDs cross the threshold of what the server supports, and everything in that tree region devolves to "after everything else." That seems like a reasonable degradation path. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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[ci skip] From nobody Thu Jun 6 16:31:29 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8EC7120077 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2019 16:31:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.391 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.391 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ayGxjLAayiid for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2019 16:31:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 132CF12006E for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2019 16:31:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2019 16:31:24 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1559863884; bh=cpWiZGly7RBrrMKYeEq/bA9ghkgesfmXbLFUYisSloE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=zC5T3z2OyzqdQvyS2eeHg7o61jPFVlKXTRHNe6zj+l3RAOcEreLJY1/335lJ8LJ2E jVyfMJU1Nedy/9eRMq6OK02uMwyUH0BhwSim4/h1VK7ckhBSFKEsBdu/kU6twBUMol BamrcIgoE/TMUDhqa/JB5/VHCi3SnHRuTmON5zFg= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] NUM_PLACEHOLDERS MUST NOT be zero (#2753) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cf9a24c1297e_63413fad696cd968109331"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2019 23:31:27 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cf9a24c1297e_63413fad696cd968109331 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > **AND allow streams to depend on other streams**? I don't follow you if that last part isn't implied. Streams are allowed to depend on other streams. While @ianswett has proposed removing that in some of the do-better-than-H2 discussion, it hasn't been removed. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2753#issuecomment-499705319 ----==_mimepart_5cf9a24c1297e_63413fad696cd968109331 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

AND allow streams to depend on other streams? I don't follow you if that last part isn't implied.

Streams are allowed to depend on other streams. While @ianswett has proposed removing that in some of the do-better-than-H2 discussion, it hasn't been removed.

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The first is true -- the server SHOULD send its SETTINGS frame immediately. However, any packet can be delayed, so the client can't count on having seen SETTINGS prior to being able to send a request. This constrains the use of placeholders, header compression, extensions, etc.

The current design permits the implementation to choose -- block on the SETTINGS frame (which used to be required) or send requests under the (very conservative) default constraints and do better once SETTINGS arrives. Our decision was to open up this flexibility of design rather than requiring either behavior.

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At the moment, the HTTP spec says that "an HTTP/3 implementation MAY impose a limit on the maximum size of the header it will accept on an individual HTTP message; encountering a larger message header SHOULD be treated as a stream error of type HTTP_EXCESSIVE_LOAD."

Is this the intended behavior?

IIUC, HTTP_EXCESSIVE_LOAD indicates a temporary issue inside the server; a client is allowed to retransmit the request hoping that it would succeed the next time. In contrary to that, I view the size of the request exceeding the maximum imposed by the server to be a permanent error, and therefore that a different error code should be used. Or even better a HTTP status code, because what we want here is not a hop-by-hop signal; the other benefit of suggesting the use of a HTTP status code is that it removes the risk of the connection getting shut down (an action that affects other requests).

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LGTM.

OTOH, I think I might have a different opinion on how the error gets reported to the client. I've filed #2775 explaining the issue.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -613,17 +613,17 @@ tree could be discarded safely. Clients could potentially reference closed
 streams long after the server had discarded state, leading to disparate views of
 the prioritization the client had attempted to express.
 
-In HTTP/3, a number of placeholders are explicitly permitted by the server using
-the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` setting. Because the server commits to
-maintaining these placeholders in the prioritization tree, clients can use them
-with confidence that the server will not have discarded the state. Clients MUST
-NOT send the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` setting; receipt of this setting by a
-server MUST be treated as a connection error of type
+In HTTP/3, placeholders are given their own number space that spans between zero
+and 2^62-1.  By using the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` setting, the server
+advertises the range of placeholder IDs it is committing to maintain state,

Thank you for the suggestions. I've applied this proposed change (with the omission of "IDs") as well as the one below in 6b8b457, at the same time reordering the sentences so that they flow better.

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----==_mimepart_5cf9dc6296db0_44333f984dacd96832109d-- From nobody Thu Jun 6 21:58:42 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F5FE12015E for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2019 21:58:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id heeFK_G6e7Gw for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2019 21:58:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 81AD4120144 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2019 21:58:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2019 21:58:37 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1559883517; bh=RyN23mCiVSujmJrOIW2m0MALHRrPci61vvr3gE4iArw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=hLjUB9BkxgM081riZpUVU0cPecUdzWbGZ+U2Ktig2aJOi0ixCc92NW9VQ7ba83o+3 O0opw6O3vRn367F2HJQQyhPbOK3VLMk/xUHn0bHKcI+2Zurd366oj3A/H5++TYl/9U ottNybU19XtlQvVNiLpTzOJItJsEpxRbgH2IdIdE= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Request to Retire Locally Issued CIDs (#2769) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cf9eefd28d78_133d3fe4a12cd95c1407c4"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2019 04:58:41 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cf9eefd28d78_133d3fe4a12cd95c1407c4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In line of @MikeBishop's comments and what I have said earlier: Implicit retirement of "Prior To" has the issues mentioned with distributed ACK processing. But the problem is in fact worse: For almost the same reason that the sender wants to retired CID's, the receiver may want to be either migrating internally to another host, or process different parts of a connection on different servers. It can be detrimental to such deployments to have a force expiration. Therefore I think Mike is right in tying this to RETIRE_CID. Perhaps the right model is to use RETIRE_CID as the sync point regardless of whether this is done voluntarily or motivated by a "Prior To" flush. Mike suggests the sender should defer RETIRE_CID until safe, but I think the receiver should make that call because it might have a 10 minute periodic load balancer flush or something completely different while the sender can only estimate based on RTT and the sender also wants to forget the CID ASAP while the receiver can track CID's algorithmically. The recommendation could be to invalidate CIDs from RETIRE_CID frames no earlier than 3PTO and possibly longer if it suits the deployment. Receiving a non-zero "Prior To" field SHOULD cause the CIDs to be flushed and retired with RETIRE_CID as soon as practical. The issuer of "Prior To" MAY close a connection with the error CONNECTION_ID_TIMEOUT but deployments SHOULd avoid doing that aggressively unless critical to infrastructure since clients may not be able or willing to upgrade fast. Note that there can be race conditions where both endpoints want to retire CID's because they are internally migrating. This can lead to problems if a CID is tied to the peers CID indirectly via source IP. We chose to have asymmetrical path migration due the complexities of this. I start to think we could some nasty corner cases here. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2769#issuecomment-499756719 ----==_mimepart_5cf9eefd28d78_133d3fe4a12cd95c1407c4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

In line of @MikeBishop's comments and what I have said earlier:

Implicit retirement of "Prior To" has the issues mentioned with distributed ACK processing. But the problem is in fact worse: For almost the same reason that the sender wants to retired CID's, the receiver may want to be either migrating internally to another host, or process different parts of a connection on different servers. It can be detrimental to such deployments to have a force expiration. Therefore I think Mike is right in tying this to RETIRE_CID.

Perhaps the right model is to use RETIRE_CID as the sync point regardless of whether this is done voluntarily or motivated by a "Prior To" flush. Mike suggests the sender should defer RETIRE_CID until safe, but I think the receiver should make that call because it might have a 10 minute periodic load balancer flush or something completely different while the sender can only estimate based on RTT and the sender also wants to forget the CID ASAP while the receiver can track CID's algorithmically.

The recommendation could be to invalidate CIDs from RETIRE_CID frames no earlier than 3PTO and possibly longer if it suits the deployment. Receiving a non-zero "Prior To" field SHOULD cause the CIDs to be flushed and retired with RETIRE_CID as soon as practical. The issuer of "Prior To" MAY close a connection with the error CONNECTION_ID_TIMEOUT but deployments SHOULd avoid doing that aggressively unless critical to infrastructure since clients may not be able or willing to upgrade fast.

Note that there can be race conditions where both endpoints want to retire CID's because they are internally migrating. This can lead to problems if a CID is tied to the peers CID indirectly via source IP. We chose to have asymmetrical path migration due the complexities of this. I start to think we could some nasty corner cases here.

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I can see the need for issuing a SRT ASAP in order for fast client side connection recovery. This is one reason there has been strong pushback against probabilistic resets as I have proposed before. Another reason is probably esthetical and because it wasn't that important when SRT's could be made small enough.

However, when you are facing a guessing game on how large to make packets and arbitrarily making payload larger than need be, and possible only some of the payload to eventually ensure a high chance of reset, I think this is really doing probabilistic resets the wrong way around.

I suggest that as long as you can send a SRT that is smaller than inbound you should. If you cannot do that are only permitted to send a SRT with a probability no larger than size(inbound)/size(SRT).

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Makes sense - it is probably one of the few places where you actually benefit from an error other than HTTP_GENERAL_PROTOCOL_ERROR because you a making a qualified guess when sending blind.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1202,9 +1202,17 @@ The following situa=
tions are examples of invalid PRIORITY frames:
 A PRIORITY frame with Empty bits not set to zero MAY be treated as a con=
nection
 error of type HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME.
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-greater than the server's limit, or a Stream ID the client is not ye=
t permitted
-to open MUST be treated as a connection error of type HTTP_LIMIT_EXCEEDE=
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+A PRIORITY frame that references a non-existent Push ID, or a Stream ID =
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+client is not yet permitted to open MUST be treated as a connection erro=
r of
+type HTTP_LIMIT_EXCEEDED.
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+A PRIORITY frame MAY reference a Placeholder ID that is equal to or grea=
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+the server's advertised value of the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` set=
tings.  When
+receiving a PRIORITY frame with its prioritized element set to such a
+placeholder, the server SHOULD discard the frame without making any chan=
ge to
+the priority tree.  When receiving a PRIORITY frame with its element dep=
endency
+set to such a placeholder, the server SHOULD update the priority tree wi=
th the
+root of the tree being the dependency instead.

The implication would be that clients should build the priority tree w= ith higher-priority placeholders having a lower placeholder ID.

This sounds like a good way of thinking. I agree that providing such a= guidance is a better than having no guidance at all.

OTOH, That creates a dependency on #2690. @Mike= Bishop, should we wait for the merger of #2690 before u= pdating the text?

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3592: Line is 82 characters; limit is 80
limit, Version Negotiation Packets could carry Connection IDs that are longer than
Makefile:25: recipe for target 'lint' failed

@martinduke can you fix that up?

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@MikeBishop I think #2645 is fairly different from this issue, and I'm not sure I understand how they interact. Perhaps filing a separate issue is best?

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----==_mimepart_5cfa1db0c1d17_41453fd32d0cd95c84510-- From nobody Fri Jun 7 04:44:28 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D32B1200D5 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2019 04:44:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.878 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.878 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.415, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Grqc-jsYCJSJ for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2019 04:44:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E1F021200E5 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2019 04:44:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2019 04:44:23 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1559907863; bh=Tlx+r1yDqMXaapcdRmU19ILTMjAIPOaRFWLWPtpoJls=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=eIPFIRKoYLdDgbncXy/CZ8ji8uvyc7rLLIyJaTUFGxRygQpZDaubMbqPMFA0kPlkS hg1r9k/RNsR1bkt8CWLwIkM7CjlNiwUAOT96qI7M1u0P0NR1Cm5/UAWjxixGQMPNCH QhEJW4jySP7XA3R/eVJyF6P7R3MZZkFqbUCO/uqA= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Error code to be sent when the size of request headers exceed server's limit (#2775) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cfa4e1799399_7e4e3fee57ccd96046644a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2019 11:44:27 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cfa4e1799399_7e4e3fee57ccd96046644a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree, HTTP_EXCESSIVE_LOAD seems like the wrong error code here. HTTP_GENERAL_PROTOCOL_ERROR or HTTP_REQUEST_REJECTED would be better. Did you have an HTTP status code in mind for this case? I believe HTTP status codes should be consistent across HTTP versions, so If neither HTTP or HTTP/2 are sending back a status code for this case, an HTTP/3 error code seems more appropriate. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2775#issuecomment-499854386 ----==_mimepart_5cfa4e1799399_7e4e3fee57ccd96046644a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I agree, HTTP_EXCESSIVE_LOAD seems like the wrong error code here.

HTTP_GENERAL_PROTOCOL_ERROR or HTTP_REQUEST_REJECTED would be better.

Did you have an HTTP status code in mind for this case? I believe HTTP status codes should be consistent across HTTP versions, so If neither HTTP or HTTP/2 are sending back a status code for this case, an HTTP/3 error code seems more appropriate.

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@ianswett Glad you asked.

I went back to check RFC 7540 and now realize that the only suggested behavior is:

A server that receives a larger header block than it is willing to handle can send an HTTP 431 (Request Header Fields Too Large) status code [RFC6585].
https://httpwg.org/specs/rfc7540.html#rfc.section.10.5.1

I think we should provide the same guidance in HTTP/3.

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Thanks for checking. SGTM

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----==_mimepart_5cfa643f6bcc1_7f0b3f91f7ecd95c10862f-- From nobody Fri Jun 7 06:55:58 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C81D712003F for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2019 06:55:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.605 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.605 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hSgxqEiYZFh5 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2019 06:55:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 343B3120058 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2019 06:55:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2019 06:55:52 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1559915752; bh=5YT2j3B7GL3ZpmEIzibC+FKy/bW6jvUG47+HE1MxOk8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=DJZyU7N+SfbpC3RELCeJ7T9lqsb42T8+ZAraqoG/LrNDjksi+xAmFEusjrEVFy+kH LKOLDsSkjdTW2h1HlZg7zyIUkKAyzG+R4pQHcvPXUyXCvs7M2bFVwWRQnU6qqDeCn9 UzrKyPwrtLIDL2n5QdX4oEgmhBf06etV/rhitTtw= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] If you want a Stateless Reset you need to send a much larger packet than before (#2770) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cfa6ce8b40fd_35013f9553ccd9681745e9"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2019 13:55:56 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cfa6ce8b40fd_35013f9553ccd9681745e9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I remember a few goals for stateless rejects(there are probably more): 1) Cannot be spoofed 2) Ideally an active attacker cannot cause a server to generate one for an active connection 3) Indistinguishable from other traffic 4) No amplification attacks 5) No endless loops 6) Can be sent in response to any packet that can't be associated with an active connection. We compromised 6 in order to achieve 3 more often. I think we can tweak the existing design to not compromise 6 and still provide 3. We can put a bit more burden on the client and add text to indicate that if the client wants a stateless reject that's indistinguishable from other traffic, it needs to send a packet that's at least 1 byte larger than the minimum plausible incoming packet. In most circumstances, I expect this to naturally occur because the server connection ID will be longer than the client's. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2770#issuecomment-499894384 ----==_mimepart_5cfa6ce8b40fd_35013f9553ccd9681745e9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I remember a few goals for stateless rejects(there are probably more):

  1. Cannot be spoofed
  2. Ideally an active attacker cannot cause a server to generate one for an active connection
  3. Indistinguishable from other traffic
  4. No amplification attacks
  5. No endless loops
  6. Can be sent in response to any packet that can't be associated with an active connection.

We compromised 6 in order to achieve 3 more often. I think we can tweak the existing design to not compromise 6 and still provide 3.

We can put a bit more burden on the client and add text to indicate that if the client wants a stateless reject that's indistinguishable from other traffic, it needs to send a packet that's at least 1 byte larger than the minimum plausible incoming packet. In most circumstances, I expect this to naturally occur because the server connection ID will be longer than the client's.

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I think you messed two key goals

  1. Allow peer to fail fast on dead connections.
  2. Reduce unwanted inbound traffic from dead connections.

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Immediate is a little strong. There are valid implementation reasons that an "immediate" switch might not be possible -- or at least impossible to guarantee. The immediacy guarantees are that when the implementation sends RETIRE, it has completed whatever is needed to ensure everything is done. An ACK doesn't logically carry the same guarantees -- it just guarantees that the consumer knows about the request.

It can be mandatory for the client to retire the CID, enforced by permitting the issuer to kill the connection if it's not done soon enough, but mandatory immediate retirement probably doesn't work.

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I'm fine importing that guidance.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -912,10 +912,20 @@ Endpoints that set low values for the QUIC transport parameters
 chance that the remote peer reaches the limit early and becomes blocked. In
 particular, the value chosen for `initial_max_uni_streams` should consider that
 remote peers may wish to exercise reserved stream behaviour ({{stream-grease}}).
-To reduce the likelihood of blocking, both clients and servers SHOULD send a
-value of three or greater for the QUIC transport parameter
-`initial_max_uni_streams`, and a value of 1,024 or greater for the QUIC
-transport parameter `initial_max_stream_data_uni`.
+To reduce the likelihood of blocking, both clients and servers MUST allow
+the peer to create one unidirectional stream for the HTTP control stream plus

Updated, thanks!

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -912,10 +912,20 @@ Endpoints that set low values for the QUIC transport parameters
 chance that the remote peer reaches the limit early and becomes blocked. In
 particular, the value chosen for `initial_max_uni_streams` should consider that
 remote peers may wish to exercise reserved stream behaviour ({{stream-grease}}).
-To reduce the likelihood of blocking, both clients and servers SHOULD send a
-value of three or greater for the QUIC transport parameter
-`initial_max_uni_streams`, and a value of 1,024 or greater for the QUIC
-transport parameter `initial_max_stream_data_uni`.
+To reduce the likelihood of blocking, both clients and servers MUST allow

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -912,10 +912,20 @@ Endpoints that set low values for the QUIC transport parameters
 chance that the remote peer reaches the limit early and becomes blocked. In
 particular, the value chosen for `initial_max_uni_streams` should consider that
 remote peers may wish to exercise reserved stream behaviour ({{stream-grease}}).
-To reduce the likelihood of blocking, both clients and servers SHOULD send a
-value of three or greater for the QUIC transport parameter
-`initial_max_uni_streams`, and a value of 1,024 or greater for the QUIC
-transport parameter `initial_max_stream_data_uni`.
+To reduce the likelihood of blocking, both clients and servers MUST allow
+the peer to create one unidirectional stream for the HTTP control stream plus
+the number of unidirectional streams required by mandatory extensions (such as
+QPACK), by setting an appropriate value for the QUIC transport parameter

I went with option 1. I also agree that the TP is the best way. Also because the paragraph now starts with "To avoid blocking", and sending MAX_STREAMS is not a great way to avoid blocking.

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Also rebased to fix conflict.

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In my opinion, adding something like you just said to the specifications would be perfect. Given that section 7.2.5.2 already mentions default settings values, it might not be bad to just expand it there. For example:

For clients using a 1-RTT QUIC connection, the initial value of each server setting is the default value. When a 0-RTT QUIC connection is being used, the initial value of each server setting is the value used in the previous session. 
Clients MUST store the settings the server provided in the session being resumed and MUST comply with stored settings until the current server settings are received.

could be appended with something along the lines of:

These values can be used by a client in a situation where it wants to send requests before the server's settings frame has arrived. 
This removes the need for a client to block and wait before sending its first request.

I think the most important part here is being a little more verbose about the edge case instead of just implying its existence by mentioning the default values for settings.
If anyone has any other thoughts about it I'd love to hear them.

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Fixes #2772.

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@bencebeky notes that:

RFC7540 allows crumbling cookies for compression efficiency with HPACK. However, neither quic-http nor quic-qpack drafts mention cookies or crumbling. Is it considered safe for a QPACK implementation to crumble cookies before compression and concatenate them after decompression? If so, should the draft include clarification on this?

We need to normatively reference 7540 for this capability.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1202,9 +1202,17 @@ The following situations are examples of invalid PRIORITY frames:
 A PRIORITY frame with Empty bits not set to zero MAY be treated as a connection
 error of type HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME.
 
-A PRIORITY frame that references a non-existent Push ID, a Placeholder ID
-greater than the server's limit, or a Stream ID the client is not yet permitted
-to open MUST be treated as a connection error of type HTTP_LIMIT_EXCEEDED.
+A PRIORITY frame that references a non-existent Push ID, or a Stream ID the
+client is not yet permitted to open MUST be treated as a connection error of
+type HTTP_LIMIT_EXCEEDED.
+
+A PRIORITY frame MAY reference a Placeholder ID that is equal to or greater than
+the server's advertised value of the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` settings.  When
+receiving a PRIORITY frame with its prioritized element set to such a
+placeholder, the server SHOULD discard the frame without making any change to
+the priority tree.  When receiving a PRIORITY frame with its element dependency
+set to such a placeholder, the server SHOULD update the priority tree with the
+root of the tree being the dependency instead.

There's an easy solution to that.

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[ci skip] From nobody Fri Jun 7 14:21:45 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90951120044 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2019 14:21:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YR4_pAPM2e20 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2019 14:21:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-21.smtp.github.com (out-21.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.204]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E76BA1200B2 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2019 14:21:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2019 14:21:40 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1559942500; bh=qSFA46JZAxkCghYLRnRoEx6NQHZWT68cga2kT16XA0E=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=fy6mSUx21+VAR35tUf/JCyVBYeoaIovE+ppceWmoE9D1xm9kdB+PYoAZLuKkULc4Z X19uxUlYKFmNxFEo01nBG2ZFkGfjuXPkJImi6Q4kOaqIJb5aUZK9qr5kZjzDHktCkA pXxdagJ9CXXm52+o/FbxVCL6x49nKPtKjef9Mqxo= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Re-visit initial keys discard (#2741) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cfad5643bb6d_22cc3fcf47acd9642262b4"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2019 21:21:43 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cfad5643bb6d_22cc3fcf47acd9642262b4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "That" was @kazuho's comment. 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"That" was @kazuho's comment. I'll let him take it to a separate issue if he wants to pursue that suggestion.

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----==_mimepart_5cfad5643bb6d_22cc3fcf47acd9642262b4-- From nobody Fri Jun 7 15:28:41 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ACC01200EA for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2019 15:28:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id g6LwUKODRylS for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2019 15:28:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-16.smtp.github.com (out-16.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.199]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD9BB1200E9 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2019 15:28:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2019 15:28:38 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1559946518; bh=nsNYbQBpOzEhENr1ELh0fXVvnLJmk02D+03EkAX7wYw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=dXxQdWg1Sn/OAJAEyx7H0VD1fWNJEwD1anGzjKW+drkmycFsGHYY5Fzw8ZeA4GQWI LtDkh2Ok5SxLQZanR/VvKtd/UqV6YslTOpSzB5N1H79DDdDe5gWZsOK6w9ydb4qjKo TziCUJys6b//gvXgiw42X4PZxXsQOcjGiPaorDpQ= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Request to Retire Locally Issued CIDs (#2769) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cfae51623f8c_4c773fd5d1acd960147320"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2019 22:28:40 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cfae51623f8c_4c773fd5d1acd960147320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MikeBishop approved this pull request. I think "SHOULD ... immediately" is a workable balance. There will be implementations which can't do it immediately, and the text describes how the issuer time-bounds them; for everyone else, immediately will be fine. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2769#pullrequestreview-247328689 ----==_mimepart_5cfae51623f8c_4c773fd5d1acd960147320 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@MikeBishop approved this pull request.

I think "SHOULD ... immediately" is a workable balance. There will be implementations which can't do it immediately, and the text describes how the issuer time-bounds them; for everyone else, immediately will be fine.

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----==_mimepart_5cfae51623f8c_4c773fd5d1acd960147320-- From nobody Fri Jun 7 15:32:26 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0344E12016B for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2019 15:32:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.878 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.878 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.415, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ctp2yn-ZjpYV for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2019 15:32:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7A45112002E for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2019 15:32:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2019 15:32:22 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1559946742; bh=dUDwCQtbEq3br20HVneMBrJccAssNZC/TQOJjapV0Wg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=LLYhvO3q0TOZXjObFMMTbOiSNJ8QggFbUKTYqZq6YtxUU8FCDo/MwJz4VeXYc8uKr c/xzEs3dZZvH4lnbedylrdwDMBWPOYyIaLJZmjQXqXQosKPeS6hkETVL0p4dIbjY0l H5ZXham1A3ViEUPAJPsehUtlVQAl8V7RIE8Shdms= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Mandate allowing peer to create enough unidirectional streams for HTTP and QPACK (#2762) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cfae5f665422_73f03ff566ccd9681764a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2019 22:32:25 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cfae5f665422_73f03ff566ccd9681764a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That is an exceptionally long sentence. But I think the text is correct. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2762#issuecomment-500059493 ----==_mimepart_5cfae5f665422_73f03ff566ccd9681764a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

That is an exceptionally long sentence. But I think the text is correct.

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Re #2645, it is my understanding is that @nibanks is pushing for #2769. I am fine with the WG adopting that = PR, hence have no intent to pursue the approach described in #2741 (comment) at this moment.

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Thanks for clarifying @MikeBishop and @kazuho. In that case, let's keep the CID discussion separate from this one.

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----==_mimepart_5cfb706b66416_203f3f86f0acd968152552-- From nobody Sat Jun 8 01:28:11 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0DF81200EA for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2019 01:28:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Gr47ACj_eKER for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2019 01:28:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-17.smtp.github.com (out-17.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 09AB912008F for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2019 01:28:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2019 01:28:05 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1559982485; bh=ZPAhng3xD8JS3STFR+866CufkNg+vpaZWJjK73OpPko=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=AmIuA9gZfJL4ABEPAGvKuebxzykOR+SY45b+tyL9v9XKBiGHtjuP19OhobFilJoUe 0C3xT8ARnkTc9bYkjQtED2LlX4WPjCXv9T2WcclEBjIUjorPQ3Mm+CUZ+XIbZDgjUh IQDx/h1gUwm+c0kArLd16arqTqfIKBmklvClwBnQ= From: David Schinazi Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Request to Retire Locally Issued CIDs (#2769) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cfb7195cf515_6e023ffba26cd9682087c6"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: DavidSchinazi X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2019 08:28:09 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cfb7195cf515_6e023ffba26cd9682087c6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm OK with "SHOULD immediately" but I still think having an endpoint close the connection with protocol violation if a packet is delayed is a security risk for the reasons I detailed in the issue. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2769#issuecomment-500106799 ----==_mimepart_5cfb7195cf515_6e023ffba26cd9682087c6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I'm OK with "SHOULD immediately" but I still think having an endpoint close the connection with protocol violation if a packet is delayed is a security risk for the reasons I detailed in the issue.

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----==_mimepart_5cfb7195cf515_6e023ffba26cd9682087c6-- From nobody Sat Jun 8 08:08:21 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CA4A1200B6 for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2019 08:08:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.391 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.391 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iOiNxlSgSTqB for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2019 08:08:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DC7FD120091 for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2019 08:08:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2019 08:08:17 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560006497; bh=lo7vN0xjNLGEJaYSnJ4cHPbLI/IDiZp6sWAeyEiZyxI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=H4cBx49P2DXSFBtL0ZPOFF6+oBQQfMLRRNceod+xSiVX8szIteVTZ2bAHR8QVnVwx HK9vyINPANvPzQmbi8q+dRZugUK2RR68HggXR5lj7XTFDAjfQmldc9JbZSEKZzZLK8 NJl6CgsOfadlmUbXZY7SHlLoxMm8iugh5GIi69XE= From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Request to Retire Locally Issued CIDs (#2769) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cfbcf618a598_67aa3fbcd30cd9685574e8"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2019 15:08:20 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cfbcf618a598_67aa3fbcd30cd9685574e8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Personally, I don't think there is a big difference between explicitly closing the connection VS just removing the CIDs from the routing lookup, which would cause a stateless reset to be sent if the peer continues to use it. I like the explicit nature of the close, because it will be easier to debug if there are bugs; though I do concede that if the peer did locally retire the CIDs, but somehow the packets/frames just took an extreme amount of time to get there, the connection isn't penalized. Perhaps a vote? Thumbs up if you prefer connection close with protocol violation. Thumbs down if you prefer the CIDs to be removed, resulting in a stateless reset instead. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2769#issuecomment-500131371 ----==_mimepart_5cfbcf618a598_67aa3fbcd30cd9685574e8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Personally, I don't think there is a big difference between explicitly closing the connection VS just removing the CIDs from the routing lookup, which would cause a stateless reset to be sent if the peer continues to use it.

I like the explicit nature of the close, because it will be easier to debug if there are bugs; though I do concede that if the peer did locally retire the CIDs, but somehow the packets/frames just took an extreme amount of time to get there, the connection isn't penalized.

Perhaps a vote?
Thumbs up if you prefer connection close with protocol violation.
Thumbs down if you prefer the CIDs to be removed, resulting in a stateless reset instead.

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----==_mimepart_5cfbcf618a598_67aa3fbcd30cd9685574e8-- From nobody Sat Jun 8 19:10:16 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 677EB12008C for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2019 19:10:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.008 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.008 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TibzgjKSrgUE for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2019 19:10:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-21.smtp.github.com (out-21.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.204]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DDEA012013F for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2019 19:10:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2019 19:10:09 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560046209; bh=TBzMwAbqgKWmcx2Xxx5ZcowyUTqy4oOdcgPOFGIeQO0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=sKTuQBBEhhlX+uxEQk1xU4i7JRAABbrWfDAgOCFUIYFmkjHl5xiJASRNoQ1woafRX yl4BieWTP9E2Ob8ZXL+fdynCKGYnmD5rhWlkomlxW+eS7QCQBG5MoG8+QgtOVkTsMY OSVtbGaGD23fGhQD7Gku75PcvT2whZcS6k0s5xhc= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Request to Retire Locally Issued CIDs (#2769) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cfc6a81da638_514a3f95d14cd9602644c7"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2019 02:10:15 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cfc6a81da638_514a3f95d14cd9602644c7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @nibanks > I don't think there is a big difference between explicitly closing the connection VS just removing the CIDs from the routing lookup, which would cause a stateless reset to be sent if the peer continues to use it. As @DavidSchinazi has pointed out in https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2645#issuecomment-499470589, "having the use of a CID you've asked to retire trigger a protocol violation is a security risk. It allows an attacker to close the connection by delaying a valid packet." If it is the case that we would have the same issue in sending a STATELESS_RESET (I assume that is what you are suggesting), I think we need to fix the issue, rather than choosing one between the two designs that both have the same security concern. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2769#issuecomment-500178996 ----==_mimepart_5cfc6a81da638_514a3f95d14cd9602644c7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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I don't think there is a big difference between explicitly closing the connection VS just removing the CIDs from the routing lookup, which would cause a stateless reset to be sent if the peer continues to use it.

As @DavidSchinazi has pointed out in #2645 (comment), "having the use of a CID you've asked to retire trigger a protocol violation is a security risk. It allows an attacker to close the connection by delaying a valid packet."

If it is the case that we would have the same issue in sending a STATELESS_RESET (I assume that is what you are suggesting), I think we need to fix the issue, rather than choosing one between the two designs that both have the same security concern.

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PS. One way of resolving the security concern would be to require the use of Stateless Reset (instead of a CONNECTION_CLOSE), and also require that Stateless Reset Tokens for CID above "Retire Prior To" to be different from the tokens below or equal to "Retire Prior To."

Note: the latter requirement is necessary because transport draft section 10.4.2 states that "the same Stateless Reset Token MAY be used for multiple connection IDs on the same connection."

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  • 18c8303 missing dependency is substituted by a orphan placeholder (instead of root)

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1202,9 +1202,17 @@ The following situations are examples of invalid PRIORITY frames:
 A PRIORITY frame with Empty bits not set to zero MAY be treated as a connection
 error of type HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME.
 
-A PRIORITY frame that references a non-existent Push ID, a Placeholder ID
-greater than the server's limit, or a Stream ID the client is not yet permitted
-to open MUST be treated as a connection error of type HTTP_LIMIT_EXCEEDED.
+A PRIORITY frame that references a non-existent Push ID, or a Stream ID the
+client is not yet permitted to open MUST be treated as a connection error of
+type HTTP_LIMIT_EXCEEDED.
+
+A PRIORITY frame MAY reference a Placeholder ID that is equal to or greater than
+the server's advertised value of the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` settings.  When
+receiving a PRIORITY frame with its prioritized element set to such a
+placeholder, the server SHOULD discard the frame without making any change to
+the priority tree.  When receiving a PRIORITY frame with its element dependency
+set to such a placeholder, the server SHOULD update the priority tree with the
+root of the tree being the dependency instead.

I am impressed! 18c8303 changes the dependency to the orphan placeholder.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1076,7 +1076,9 @@ QPACK. See [QPACK] for more details.
 ~~~~~~~~~~
 {: #fig-headers title="HEADERS frame payload"}
 
-HEADERS frames can only be sent on request / push streams.
+HEADERS frames can only be sent on request / push streams.  If a HEADERS frame
+is received on either control stream, the recipient MUST respond with a

Maybe "on a control stream"? I think that we do not normally talk about two control streams (in each direction) differently.

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We can put a bit more burden on the client and add text to indicate that if the client wants a stateless reject that's indistinguishable from other traffic, it needs to send a packet that's at least 1 byte larger than the minimum plausible incoming packet. In most circumstances, I expect this to naturally occur because the server connection ID will be longer than the client's.

I think this would be the logical outcome, even though I am not sure I like the complexity.

At the moment, minimum packet size is calculated like: 1 + len(dcid) + 4 + len(aead_tag). Changing this to 1 + max(len(dcid), len(scid)) + 4 + len(aead_tag) is not that difficult.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1076,7 +1076,9 @@ QPACK. See [QPACK] for more details.
 ~~~~~~~~~~
 {: #fig-headers title="HEADERS frame payload"}
 
-HEADERS frames can only be sent on request / push streams.
+HEADERS frames can only be sent on request / push streams.  If a HEADERS frame
+is received on either control stream, the recipient MUST respond with a

Wouldn't on the control stream be better then? As far as I'm aware we still have only one of those.

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Reworded so as to not change the original text as much. The pr now just moves the truncation section from the streams section to the frames section.

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There are bunch of changes in migration recently, and they suggests that new CID is required only when endpoint sends a packet from new local address and an endpoint of migrating peer is no longer required to change its CID when sending a packet using new path as long as its local address does not change.

But there are several lines of text left to suggest that an endpoint changes CID:

   An endpoint that initiates migration and requires non-zero-length
   connection IDs SHOULD ensure that the pool of connection IDs
   available to its peer allows the peer to use a new connection ID on
   migration, as the peer will close the connection if the pool is
   exhausted.

   An endpoint can change the connection ID it uses for a peer to
   another available one at any time during the connection.  An endpoint
   consumes connection IDs in response to a migrating peer, see
   Section 9.5 for more.

Are they just remnants of old text and should be removed? or does changing CID in response to migration still a requirement?

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Changing CID in response to migration is a soft requirement since it cannot always be enforced since NAT rebinding might happen without endpoint interference. It can hurt privacy though.

CID changes can also happen without migration. One reason is for the peer to do so after an idle period because the risk of NAT rebinding is high. Another reason is to ensure CIDs do not get stale on long living connections since the peers routing infrastructure might regroup or move valid CID patterns to a new epoch.

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----==_mimepart_5cfdfcee11bc9_5e4b3f9c302cd95c12242c0-- From nobody Mon Jun 10 00:39:54 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A15B12014A for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 00:39:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0WT8oHPKDVix for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 00:39:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BE348120088 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 00:39:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 00:39:49 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560152389; bh=eIAWdxgLaRZObom9SrjdTUo4ly+MAwU3gEyTWaGrG1I=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=NJCtsGj/MxaNiREWS7NABYaghmIMY6E5jxPmgWQu7lmJdHvdYelgymk1BYgnOgeQM E6MulOC1M8uz2mqGLcC3otP69i+BFsL+yVMMoV46teZ8h2UoljnU4URxUW+OxytNVv apWCGkWGraOzyGhJsSD3kenjy3acj9Sm14rCJkpg= From: Tatsuhiro Tsujikawa Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] CID change still required in response to migration? (#2778) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cfe09455d361_15f83fc5acccd95c1394043"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: tatsuhiro-t X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 07:39:53 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cfe09455d361_15f83fc5acccd95c1394043 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So what does implementation actually need to do in response to migrating peer? Just keep using same CID or not? Use same CID to do path validation? I know that peer can change CID at anytime it likes. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2778#issuecomment-500322748 ----==_mimepart_5cfe09455d361_15f83fc5acccd95c1394043 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

So what does implementation actually need to do in response to migrating peer?
Just keep using same CID or not? Use same CID to do path validation?
I know that peer can change CID at anytime it likes.

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----==_mimepart_5cfe09455d361_15f83fc5acccd95c1394043-- From nobody Mon Jun 10 01:16:15 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07EA9120132 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 01:16:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.391 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.391 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id muBD22h45eFu for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 01:16:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 95D42120118 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 01:16:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 01:16:11 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560154571; bh=HbIWnkPbaAdKiadK9efxbhQ/gp+yICf6zCAoN8M5xMg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=YGJV3HwFf9M1nn7DtfNy3SLHAZJDqnVIjCoYukunwX5CVaOABCXzxz22wilf5ifQI Tcjb657VU/vEpb3g1qJihbR/MMex0xUcmp3iuu5a5t6YZIlij/UFDpnocWJVe72PpA Wm27jfa2uD9jBOT+IkGURKst+uGSXdmvXgC6OZ44= From: David Schinazi Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Request to Retire Locally Issued CIDs (#2769) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cfe11cb70532_36b83fc1306cd960276931"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: DavidSchinazi X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 08:16:14 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cfe11cb70532_36b83fc1306cd960276931 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree with @kazuho. If we want to close the connection (which I still think we shouldn't mandate but I think we can allow) then we should use stateless resets, mandate each CID has a distinct reset token, and mandate that endpoints ignore reset tokens for CIDs they have retired. That'll prevent an attacker from closing the connection by delaying a packet. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2769#issuecomment-500332142 ----==_mimepart_5cfe11cb70532_36b83fc1306cd960276931 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I agree with @kazuho. If we want to close the connection (which I still think we shouldn't mandate but I think we can allow) then we should use stateless resets, mandate each CID has a distinct reset token, and mandate that endpoints ignore reset tokens for CIDs they have retired. That'll prevent an attacker from closing the connection by delaying a packet.

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Upon timeout, the sender MUST retransmit all unacknowledged CRYPTO data if possible. The sender MUST NOT declare in-flight crypto packets as lost when the crypto timer expires.

So timer expiration does not remove in-flight unacknowleged CRYPTO data from bytes_in_flight. This means if ACK continues to be lost for Handshake packet, endpoint has no cwnd left to send any packet. loss time based detection does not kick in because no ACK is received.

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The key principle is to not reuse a CID on a new path if it can be avoided. I'm not sure about the CID terminating if the pool is exhausted - in your quoted text. I think it may choose to do so (and is encouraged to do so) but I'm not sure it is required to.

Changing CID in response to a peers migration is therefore relevant but changing CID just because the peer changes CID is problematic because it might never end.

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I agree with @kazuho. If we want to close the connection (which I still think we shouldn't mandate but I think we can allow) then we should use stateless resets, mandate each CID has a distinct reset token, and mandate that endpoints ignore reset tokens for CIDs they have retired. That'll prevent an attacker from closing the connection by delaying a packet.

That goes back to my suggestion of using epochs ("prior to" being the simplest such) because you might not want to store a reset token for every CID, only for every epoch.

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----==_mimepart_5cfe1bf956758_39a13fee7b8cd96818387be-- From nobody Mon Jun 10 02:01:47 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D9F6120118 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 02:01:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oXlJAJ_DWxwD for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 02:01:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 82B9D120072 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 02:01:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 02:01:42 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560157302; bh=sSmq5AsHHy0mtmvRNfc4P+gcnoZIiI7Lb+rlK/h02rY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=qXYqC9tCy35ZAdBjNuI/0IXBTr8ZESb5zqLsf9nC4WBlJina2DuQW5GyydzuaALl2 3knPwabD5FN4iNTa3ufU2h52Ltxc9OoWh0EgDovxaVIzs9vH+AWZYl5d/ay06FRxiI R03YGL4RNwi6THM1z/pWHsOx1u4BhGGR+mjezSpo= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Keeping losing ACK for Handshake packet leads 0 cwnd (#2779) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cfe1c76d7d92_6e1b3ff8f8ecd96c12136a8"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 09:01:46 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cfe1c76d7d92_6e1b3ff8f8ecd96c12136a8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If the handshake cannot make progress here, perhaps it is better to give up? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2779#issuecomment-500344993 ----==_mimepart_5cfe1c76d7d92_6e1b3ff8f8ecd96c12136a8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

If the handshake cannot make progress here, perhaps it is better to give up?

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I agree with @DavidSchinazi and @kazuho.

@mikkelfj In general, each CID is associated with its own reset token. This allows for a straightforward stateless implementation of a stateless reset token generator. I don't think it would be a good idea to revisit that principle.

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@marten-seemann no you are probably right.

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Thank you. I thought that new CID should be used on new path, but I couldn't find normative text for it now.
Other than quoted text, draft says new CID is required if endpoint migrates to new local address.

I remember the discussion of changing CID in response to CID change which is not required and sorted out with the recent PRs.

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It could, but why not reclaim data credit by making CRYPTO data lost?

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----==_mimepart_5cfe2106ccc63_6ad23fb8da6cd964216441b-- From nobody Mon Jun 10 02:26:46 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C323120135 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 02:26:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GiMPJVbnSgh4 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 02:26:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0A0BD120072 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 02:26:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 02:26:42 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560158802; bh=Avi3Y1zzC98UKHE2WU3lDSCVU4ta+oKn8uzrl1APAWg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=A52ctb17xvtE9VV+43BuNK3VjT24jLayvbij34cNm6ImLvr0sAUkkeAyYgNwwIz0u ob59TE1oiOrGc/MyhdE6MN99CSEPkredzbJLiFkqdIIbznSSBKVyKzacNeXMX86/Fu Vr/onoX+Xg1qmXY2LbxUpMSdl73f8JFqhaz7ifAM= From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Keeping losing ACK for Handshake packet leads 0 cwnd (#2779) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cfe2252c67c9_28a33fa61d4cd9681772156"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 09:26:45 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cfe2252c67c9_28a33fa61d4cd9681772156 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think the CRYPTO retransmissions are intended to be analogous to PTOs. For PTOs, we only declare any packet lost when we receive an acknowledgement. If that's indeed the intention here, we would also need to treat CRYPTO retransmissions as probe packets, which are not blocked by the congestion controller. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2779#issuecomment-500352002 ----==_mimepart_5cfe2252c67c9_28a33fa61d4cd9681772156 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I think the CRYPTO retransmissions are intended to be analogous to PTOs. For PTOs, we only declare any packet lost when we receive an acknowledgement.
If that's indeed the intention here, we would also need to treat CRYPTO retransmissions as probe packets, which are not blocked by the congestion controller.

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Marten is correct. It's on my TODO list to try to merge these mechanisms(redo of #2655), but it takes very careful thought and that PR quickly became conflict-heavy.

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Thanks. All your arguments make sense. I have updated the text to say the connections IDs should just be removed after the 3 PTO, instead of closing the connection. I also added some text warning against reuse of the stateless reset tokens.

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@ianswett approved this pull request.

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=0D = ----==_mimepart_5cfe9189581af_7ec33fc52dacd9601040e2-- From nobody Mon Jun 10 10:23:50 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AC65120177 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 10:23:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.008 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.008 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IdGuX1XTUv_m for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 10:23:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-18.smtp.github.com (out-18.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 611F9120074 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 10:23:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 10:23:46 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560187426; bh=2UV/SAa5U8H4mvMqcX3ug02f9oScnHqAHvwdRGkCOWg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=T+J2XsTTa3M6EkqaXRqAwWWCstgrwtE8fn58fGUiTjBnEQ71cxHykO9FObTZ2cPjo 6krSpO7z1j12fy3kQGwPIUpjG0/1cFZpmZjgH4X4YUW0o6MaOmyRuP/y84CVNmoc2K zCccEMfFSSLVST6SQc9oDsxi+vvmeOJ3cQ9tRRe8= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Don't store or retransmit PATH_RESPONSE frames, avoid buffering (#2729) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cfe922231024_6e4c3ff7beccd968579db"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 17:23:49 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cfe922231024_6e4c3ff7beccd968579db Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ianswett commented on this pull request. > @@ -1721,7 +1721,12 @@ it can associate the peer's response with the corresponding PATH_CHALLENGE. ## Path Validation Responses On receiving a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, an endpoint MUST respond immediately by -echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame. +echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame, +unless it has PATH_RESPONSE frames buffered for the same destination connection +ID and wishes to limit memory consumption. + +An endpoint MUST NOT store or retransmit a PATH_RESPONSE frame, as a new +PATH_CHALLENGE frame will be sent if another PATH_RESPONSE frame is needed. To back up @MikeBishop point, I'd suggest. "If a packet contains multiple PATH_CHALLENGE frames, only one PATH_RESPONSE should be sent in response." -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2729#discussion_r292106697 ----==_mimepart_5cfe922231024_6e4c3ff7beccd968579db Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1721,7 +1721,12 @@ it can associate the peer's response with the corresponding PATH_CHALLENGE.
 ## Path Validation Responses
 
 On receiving a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, an endpoint MUST respond immediately by
-echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame.
+echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame,
+unless it has PATH_RESPONSE frames buffered for the same destination connection
+ID and wishes to limit memory consumption.
+
+An endpoint MUST NOT store or retransmit a PATH_RESPONSE frame, as a new
+PATH_CHALLENGE frame will be sent if another PATH_RESPONSE frame is needed.

To back up @MikeBishop point, I'd suggest. "If a packet contains multiple PATH_CHALLENGE frames, only one PATH_RESPONSE should be sent in response."

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Thanks for trying to move us back to a more H2-like prioritization scheme, but for some reason I was under the impression we were going to allow weights of 0 rather than creating an orphan placeholder, which seems like an entirely new concept and also makes H3 priorities subtly different from H2 priorities in a new way?

Admittedly, I can implement my priorities using the weight of 0 concept anyway, since the orphan placeholder is a completely theoretic construct which cannot be referenced by a client, but it's also a non-obvious construct to me.

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@MikeBishop I think those two tracks make sense, though I do think along the way we're making some choices about the best way to change H2 priorities to be more suitable to QUIC and what compromises are and aren't acceptable, which is by its nature a series of compromises.

For example, it seems a defaulting request weight of 1 or 0 would be a more HTTP/2 like solution than adding a default placeholder? But possibly it doesn't matter that much?

Are there outstanding PRs for the rest of the migration back to more H2-like priorities?

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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1335,8 +1343,8 @@ The following settings are defined in HTTP/3:
   : The default value is unlimited.  See {{header-formatting}} for usage.
 
   SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS (0x9):
-  : The default value is 0.  However, this value SHOULD be set to a non-zero
-    value by servers.  See {{placeholders}} for usage.
+  : The default value is 0.  However, servers SHOULD set this value to 32 or

Wow, 32 is a large number. If we keep exclusive prioritization, then Chrome will probably continue to use that, and Firefox doesn't use this many, so why such a high limit?

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I'm really happy that we have a fairly clear idea of what the goal is in terms of prioritization. There's certainly a bit of wiggle room and room for experimentation, but I do believe we have rough consensus that we want a mechanism that can accomplish what's in @kazuho post.

As @kazuho says, if that's true, then I don't think we need placeholders to accomplish that prioritization. And if that's true, then there's no critical dependency on a non-zero number of placeholders.

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I'm not sure I know what "remove the connection ID" means on the receiver. I would remove any mention of 3 PTO as well. Simply state that if a sender keeps using a CID that its peer has asked to retire then packets can get misrouted or dropped.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1721,7 +1721,12 @@ it can associate the peer's response with the corresponding PATH_CHALLENGE.
 ## Path Validation Responses
 
 On receiving a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, an endpoint MUST respond immediately by
-echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame.
+echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame,
+unless it has PATH_RESPONSE frames buffered for the same destination connection
+ID and wishes to limit memory consumption.
+
+An endpoint MUST NOT store or retransmit a PATH_RESPONSE frame, as a new
+PATH_CHALLENGE frame will be sent if another PATH_RESPONSE frame is needed.

Since there's no point in having multiple challenges in one packet, why not simply forbid it?

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@erickinnear commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1721,7 +1721,12 @@ it can associate the peer's response with the corresponding PATH_CHALLENGE.
 ## Path Validation Responses
 
 On receiving a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, an endpoint MUST respond immediately by
-echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame.
+echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame,
+unless it has PATH_RESPONSE frames buffered for the same destination connection
+ID and wishes to limit memory consumption.
+
+An endpoint MUST NOT store or retransmit a PATH_RESPONSE frame, as a new
+PATH_CHALLENGE frame will be sent if another PATH_RESPONSE frame is needed.

I'd be fine with forbidding it if we think it's harmful in some way, I'd much prefer that to collapsing multiple PATH_CHALLENGE frames into a single PATH_RESPONSE.

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@erickinnear commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1721,7 +1721,12 @@ it can associate the peer's response with the corresponding PATH_CHALLENGE.
 ## Path Validation Responses
 
 On receiving a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, an endpoint MUST respond immediately by
-echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame.
+echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame,
+unless it has PATH_RESPONSE frames buffered for the same destination connection
+ID and wishes to limit memory consumption.

That's part of what @ianswett was attempting to address when we brought this issue up, but I think the idea there was deliberately about rate limiting of the amount of memory you could be required to consume. Not sure how much text we need there...
@ianswett, thoughts?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1721,7 +1721,12 @@ it can associate the peer's response with the corresponding PATH_CHALLENGE.
 ## Path Validation Responses
 
 On receiving a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, an endpoint MUST respond immediately by
-echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame.
+echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame,
+unless it has PATH_RESPONSE frames buffered for the same destination connection
+ID and wishes to limit memory consumption.
+
+An endpoint MUST NOT store or retransmit a PATH_RESPONSE frame, as a new

Agreed, I like that as well. Will change!

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----==_mimepart_5cfee497406dd_17c33fe85c2cd95c54632-- From nobody Mon Jun 10 16:34:43 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73CED1200B6 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 16:34:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.391 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.391 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ceMTR9LOakF5 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 16:34:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A46F012004A for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 16:34:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 16:34:38 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560209678; bh=ptl5yJAdosGThCYscR5GXB2fy1qH+f2Pw0kWDR6BpVs=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=hkGTS3iufxjcZ+ghrhG5Sz5KMbSgAFOh3nk8eTzW3QwyXZ4Q4zdcdNXg7NCYU19qE /gLk2/Sbpm28WLZ1jxeNcMPkZEa/DMKEcXx7aakyKowLi91xPuqb2Qwg1cr3wdoB5b r2hQX+TGlgQmlNzIUp/5rId42Izc1/jQGprlYxps= From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Request to Retire Locally Issued CIDs (#2769) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cfee90ea675c_506e3f8bd9ccd964135948"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 23:34:42 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cfee90ea675c_506e3f8bd9ccd964135948 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @DavidSchinazi by "remove the connection ID" I meant that the connection IDs would be implicitly treated as retired. I'm not sure how best to word that section of the text. Suggestions are welcome. Additionally, I don't think many folks (though I'm not among them) would like the removal of the 3 PTO text. Several people have argued for allowing continued use of the CIDs for a short while. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2769#issuecomment-500631097 ----==_mimepart_5cfee90ea675c_506e3f8bd9ccd964135948 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@DavidSchinazi by "remove the connection ID" I meant that the connection IDs would be implicitly treated as retired. I'm not sure how best to word that section of the text. Suggestions are welcome. Additionally, I don't think many folks (though I'm not among them) would like the removal of the 3 PTO text. Several people have argued for allowing continued use of the CIDs for a short while.

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Just to pile on here. If there is an implementation that is distributed, with multiple entities producing packets (which is entirely possible with some coordination), then retirement requests can take a little time to propagate.

I think that the ACK here should be taken to mean, as @MikeBishop says, I got your request, not coupled so tightly to compliance.

I don't believe that we have any other such things in the transport. STOP_SENDING is perhaps the closest analogue, but that doesn't require that you send a RESET_STREAM in the packet that acknowledges the STOP_SENDING.

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I don't know if this is worth addressing here, but this doesn't explicitly acknowledge the hop-by-hop nature of this limit. That's a big part of why this is so terrible a setting. Each endpoint advises only of the limits that it is aware of, and is not obligated to propagate limits that might apply to messages that might be forwarded to other entities. And endpoints might choose to forward messages even knowing that they will exceed limits.

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@kazuho add one to your calculation.

That would cause peers to generate packets that can be responded to with a stateless reset, but it wouldn't help the peer generating the stateless reset if it received a bogus packet. It would be ignorant of a critical value. That's not strictly a problem, and it might be that this is better than any alternative, but I do wonder about what sort of perverse incentives we're creating (with or without the clever hack).

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1335,8 +1343,8 @@ The following settings are defined in HTTP/3:
   : The default value is unlimited.  See {{header-formatting}} for usage.
 
   SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS (0x9):
-  : The default value is 0.  However, this value SHOULD be set to a non-zero
-    value by servers.  See {{placeholders}} for usage.
+  : The default value is 0.  However, servers SHOULD set this value to 32 or

Just because we use 6 now, doesn't mean that we'll keep that scheme. We're currently looking at ways to improve prioritization and placeholders are seen as being very useful in doing that. It's very early yet, but it might be that more are found to be useful.

And 32 isn't a big number. You need quite a few more zeros to qualify, I'd think.

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----==_mimepart_5cfef3b1ee2a2_29cb3f97808cd960969b3-- From nobody Mon Jun 10 17:54:13 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2771D12008D for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 17:54:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RvcB-iLDYYBX for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 17:54:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 41ABC120048 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 17:54:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 17:54:07 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560214448; bh=YEW0hY4sR9Ysy8x1zKhoZk/KcUf7ouwmHnoNe8w7TIQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=p2TJ1uk2Jwb/GmZR3c6e7MxWr3KdVQaz8BGdabRQ0y9tCqjHZeZEvQTg3Y746HHyv vumGfRcNjsQNGTMEgHOa2o84QtSXx9pkNPt2X/wvcpjR1Cx4TWm0gVfnDCm5S0Zta2 Oq/TxHuLyQE+T0sTLOFqzrCe1R50Yu8arTYK168U= From: Eric Kinnear Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] CID change still required in response to migration? (#2778) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cfefbafebeda_4ac33fc8d3acd95c139785"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: erickinnear X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 00:54:11 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cfefbafebeda_4ac33fc8d3acd95c139785 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think at one point we said "SHOULD change if the peer changes, but be careful not to loop". Otherwise it's pretty trivial to establish linkability, so everything is structured about trying to make sure you can do it, but not falling over too hard in the edge cases where you may not be able to. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2778#issuecomment-500645051 ----==_mimepart_5cfefbafebeda_4ac33fc8d3acd95c139785 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I think at one point we said "SHOULD change if the peer changes, but be careful not to loop". Otherwise it's pretty trivial to establish linkability, so everything is structured about trying to make sure you can do it, but not falling over too hard in the edge cases where you may not be able to.

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We agreed that changing CID wouldn't trigger a change in response, but the only hard rule was "if you use a new path, use a new connection ID".

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IIUC, RFC 2119 keywords used in RFC 7540 need to be converted to uppercase words in HTTP/3, because HTTP/3 invokes RFC 8174.

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@kazuho commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1335,8 +1343,8 @@ The following settings are defined in HTTP/3:
   : The default value is unlimited.  See {{header-formatting}} for usage.
 
   SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS (0x9):
-  : The default value is 0.  However, this value SHOULD be set to a non-zero
-    value by servers.  See {{placeholders}} for usage.
+  : The default value is 0.  However, servers SHOULD set this value to 32 or

FWIW, I do not care much, because the amount of state required by each placeholder is much less than that required by each HTTP stream (which includes send buffers). We recommend servers supporting at least 100 concurrent HTTP streams, so 32 placeholders can be a SHOULD.

That said, I think I might prefer choosing a number that is a divisor of 100 (e.g., 20, 25).

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Ah, interesting. I thought you were still expected to attempt to change if you could

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----==_mimepart_5cfefeb6e5c5f_5bed3fbad38cd96c130027-- From nobody Mon Jun 10 18:55:15 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C00D1200E0 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 18:55:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.605 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.605 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MBCWXATED4_L for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 18:55:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-22.smtp.github.com (out-22.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.205]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7CB9012000E for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 18:55:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 18:55:10 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560218111; bh=L5vfPnoGDyb89Sb6uZDLZ+L0O8bWs64OqAqP5Z2goFk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=YsmJkhMc7taSk4BzuBEEzBCicgJTm44E0Jk14FRY6yE61VqfYpAJFJRVnPBuFwOyU VR6BtCpkAv0mkgrmgPo2SbllJrNsFpaS+H4d0mYlAix7LarNr9rNARipOyt8a6xkfs r1tOCwpS26R6dmNdl+0qG+mGvNmkOP9q0K1Nla68= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cff09fee9fda_61483f9687ccd9602916ae"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 01:55:15 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cff09fee9fda_61483f9687ccd9602916ae Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't have a strong opinion on this, but the new discard keys PR that landed has that shape: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2673 Later packet numbers not using a given key is fairly similar to later packet numbers not using a given connection ID. Enforcement seems comparably or slightly more difficult, so one could go with MUST retire/MAY close the connection. @martinthomson Once you're talking about distributed peers, I think we're well in the space of multi-machine multipath? Or is there some other use case you have in mind? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2645#issuecomment-500655651 ----==_mimepart_5cff09fee9fda_61483f9687ccd9602916ae Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I don't have a strong opinion on this, but the new discard keys PR that landed has that shape: #2673

Later packet numbers not using a given key is fairly similar to later packet numbers not using a given connection ID. Enforcement seems comparably or slightly more difficult, so one could go with MUST retire/MAY close the connection.

@martinthomson Once you're talking about distributed peers, I think we're well in the space of multi-machine multipath? Or is there some other use case you have in mind?

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@ianswett I think this is a little bit different, since we have a mechanism to retire CIDs and it this is a request to use that mechanism, not an implicit retirement of the CID?
It seems like it would be fine to require that after a CID is retired that later packet numbers not use it (I think that's already a requirement?), but doing anything based on the ACK of the "please retire" message doesn't seem like the right path forward here.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1721,7 +1721,12 @@ it can associate the peer's response with the corresponding PATH_CHALLENGE.
 ## Path Validation Responses
 
 On receiving a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, an endpoint MUST respond immediately by
-echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame.
+echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame,
+unless it has PATH_RESPONSE frames buffered for the same destination connection
+ID and wishes to limit memory consumption.

If we forbid multiple PATH_CHALLENGE frames in a single packet, I believe we don't need to add text about buffering. But I'm not sure if that's an acceptable restriction to the WG. If not, an alternate option would be to say you SHOULD only send one PATH_CHALLENGE in a packet and you SHOULD only respond to one PATH_CHALLENGE from a single packet.

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@erickinnear we have strengthened the text, so that it's no longer a request, but a requirement that the peer retire the CID. I also agree with @ianswett that this is very similar to key update, and if an implementation can synchronize keys and packet numbers, I see no reason why CIDs and packet numbers also cannot be synchronized. Practically, for every packet you send, you pick a CID, a key and a packet number to use at about the same time.

The only scenario that I've heard that gives me some pause is if the peer is currently trying to probe on a new path when you are trying to force the CIDs to be retired. It might be easier for the probing logic to continue using the CID it started the probe with. But I'm still not completely convinced. For one, what if that new path has a MUCH bigger RTT than the old one? That would make it a lot more likely it could hit the 3 PTO timer on the primary path. Also, I see no reason why you couldn't immediately switch the CID used for probing as well.

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----==_mimepart_5cff11a0c6c5f_1f463fa8094cd95c1065f-- From nobody Mon Jun 10 19:28:39 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29DA4120041 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 19:28:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.391 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.391 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8V3mu0NWJhwy for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 19:28:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 16223120026 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 19:28:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 19:28:34 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560220114; bh=5hhs/h8nxJxmk7HehyMMEWqmTDND46OMNpPUOURm5OA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=SJjNZmA9xS1awmXMgcF0LBFRjLIlZrFDn4zPkw5kh/XA1Wl2HsXzjg0DkVoESILaf oxvYGRVJCVVwcsx87Y0J6zd36gjlh0ZhGYvMamymkcAc2+JCZ0UKudC2YjJe8o0hsN kF/ekw4eQFENaiTxUNf7Qwi0X8QhOCN+sPdbIaOQ= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cff11d262f1b_76693fc302acd960103985"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 02:28:38 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cff11d262f1b_76693fc302acd960103985 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm fine with the "please retire" semantics, but wanted to point out an existing case in the QUIC specs we say you must retire something in a similar circumstance. I hate timers, so I suspect my implementation will do that even if the spec doesn't require it, because I believe it's more straightforward to implement. If you supply a CID with sequence number X and I've specified that I'm only going to store Y sequence numbers via active_connection_id_limit, can you assume the peer is unlikely/unwilling to use CIDs with sequence number < X-Y(modulo reordering). That would be true for my implementation, but possibly it's also related to the 3RTO issue? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2645#issuecomment-500662343 ----==_mimepart_5cff11d262f1b_76693fc302acd960103985 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I'm fine with the "please retire" semantics, but wanted to point out an existing case in the QUIC specs we say you must retire something in a similar circumstance. I hate timers, so I suspect my implementation will do that even if the spec doesn't require it, because I believe it's more straightforward to implement.

If you supply a CID with sequence number X and I've specified that I'm only going to store Y sequence numbers via active_connection_id_limit, can you assume the peer is unlikely/unwilling to use CIDs with sequence number < X-Y(modulo reordering). That would be true for my implementation, but possibly it's also related to the 3RTO issue?

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I thought this was generally a useful PR and it doesn't(yet) have conflicts. Maybe take another look and ensure it still reads well to you and then merge it?

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Trigger is used in exactly two spots, where are both fixed in this PR. Unless we're sure what to do going forward, how about landing this and deciding how to better name this later?

Also, I'm not a big fan of trigger as a term. Cause and send are both preferable options in my opinion.

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Limits the PRIORITY frame to be only sent on the control stream, and brings back the Exclusive Flag.

Closes #2754.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2781

Commit Summary

  • PRIORITY frame only on the control stream
  • exclusive bit
  • introduce "Exclusive Flag", incorporating text from RFC 7540

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----==_mimepart_5cff2087d3fe5_51c03fe12cacd968405b7-- From nobody Mon Jun 10 20:44:01 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A3AC1200E0 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 20:43:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id i6EeDGqZ0yN1 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 20:43:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 24DC412007C for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 20:43:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 20:43:55 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560224635; bh=jMBc/N5gJc7WvjSuJdi3Pw1r0WX66NN7kHpMM3bsew4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=gwDVgT+Cv9uDvBOgJ0yXu53rjL0OL3/YGZ6QgWqqmPec2/nL+8Q1ZVVAGZLDcT8qF dDoxsxidHYDdQHyVjoggek+scHX1/txVwNnkJ+3kRFY1qhEUzJO+cYN7xU23dZkwca 1xW8rS68Ih9G4dIVGrAZmeDedN7FMo6XivMCyotI= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Lessen the divergence from the HTTP/2 prioritization scheme by requiring all PRIORITY frames to be sent on the control stream (#2754) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cff237b8a6f6_19df3fec96ecd96c20295"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 03:43:59 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cff237b8a6f6_19df3fec96ecd96c20295 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @ianswett > For example, it seems a defaulting request weight of 1 or 0 would be a more HTTP/2 like solution than adding a default placeholder? But possibly it doesn't matter that much? I do not think it matters much. And I think that servers might want to play some game here, for example giving higher default precedence to responses that carry CSS files until a PRIORITY frame is being received. That said, I think I prefer the design principle to be "provide something that is guaranteed to be at worst as good as HTTP/2." Giving least precedence to requests for which the client-specified priority is yet to be known is a natural way to achieve that. > Are there outstanding PRs for the rest of the migration back to more H2-like priorities? Just filed #2781. I think that #2761 and #2781 are the remaining changes that we need to make, in order to allow browsers use the same prioritization scheme as the ones they've used in HTTP/2 (with the exception being that idle prioritized streams are replaced by placeholders). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2754#issuecomment-500675290 ----==_mimepart_5cff237b8a6f6_19df3fec96ecd96c20295 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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For example, it seems a defaulting request weight of 1 or 0 would be a= more HTTP/2 like solution than adding a default placeholder? But possibl= y it doesn't matter that much?

I do not think it matters much.

And I think that servers might want to play some game here, for exampl= e giving higher default precedence to responses that carry CSS files unti= l a PRIORITY frame is being received.

That said, I think I prefer the design principle to be "provide someth= ing that is guaranteed to be at worst as good as HTTP/2." Giving least pr= ecedence to requests for which the client-specified priority is yet to be= known is a natural way to achieve that.

Are there outstanding PRs for the rest of the migration back to more H= 2-like priorities?

Just filed #2781. I think that #2761 and <= a class=3D"issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text=3D"Failed to load is= sue title" data-id=3D"454464264" data-permission-text=3D"Issue title is p= rivate" data-url=3D"https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2781" da= ta-hovercard-type=3D"pull_request" data-hovercard-url=3D"/quicwg/base-dra= fts/pull/2781/hovercard" href=3D"https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pu= ll/2781">#2781 are the remaining changes that we need to make, in ord= er to allow browsers use the same prioritization scheme as the ones they'= ve used in HTTP/2 (with the exception being that idle prioritized streams= are replaced by placeholders).

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LGTM modulo the point below.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 A client MAY attempt 0-RTT after receiving a Retry packet by sending 0-RTT
-packets to the connection ID provided by the server.  A client that sends
-additional 0-RTT packets without constructing a new cryptographic handshake
-message MUST NOT reset the packet number to 0 after a Retry packet; see
-{{packet-0rtt}}.
+packets to the connection ID provided by the server.  A client MUST NOT change
+the cryptographic handshake message it sends in response to receiving a Retry.
+
+A client MUST NOT reset the packet number to 0 for any packet number space after

Do we need to stay "to 0"?

I think it'd be better to just omit "to 0", because resetting the packet number does not necessary mean that it goes to zero. It is totally reasonable for an endpoint to start it's packet number from one.

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I think the text needs to be more clear on whether RETIRE CID must be send for those requested to be retired, or if that is implicit.

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=0D = ----==_mimepart_5cff3fdd45ae7_3a7e3ffa96ecd968275546-- From nobody Tue Jun 11 00:26:31 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3F3F120114 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 00:26:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.605 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.605 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id a14tfF4JcqA2 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 00:26:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-17.smtp.github.com (out-17.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 526A112010C for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 00:26:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 00:26:27 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560237987; bh=G+vBjbyYT4icv35gmO9YHsb8S2W4cMkj4lVcXDO93vw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=woNPz/NYodypzYILNN/3NeeCqnnkAtGJ6uyCaYtt3CFnTvMEnMcqcYBAvaTRFsr6w Cl4f8LXg54UyXEj4ERSQ7NtK+mzrLAuqH+ZupAwGDg6u6OnPPqh1Sw4i5uMINJpyIX 9ROk3VaBXq78ZOvcCch8QV0PI9SGrjqAWAtHr6Q8= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clients use the same crypto handshake after Retry (#2746) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cff57a344882_2bbe3fe6d72cd9601303a1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 07:26:30 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cff57a344882_2bbe3fe6d72cd9601303a1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mikkelfj commented on this pull request. > A client MAY attempt 0-RTT after receiving a Retry packet by sending 0-RTT -packets to the connection ID provided by the server. A client that sends -additional 0-RTT packets without constructing a new cryptographic handshake -message MUST NOT reset the packet number to 0 after a Retry packet; see -{{packet-0rtt}}. +packets to the connection ID provided by the server. A client MUST NOT change +the cryptographic handshake message it sends in response to receiving a Retry. + +A client MUST NOT reset the packet number to 0 for any packet number space after It says that you must not reset to zero. It does not matter if you do not necessarily reset to 0 if you sometimes can. I'm not sure why 0 is important in higher packer number spaces, but if it is, it must be stated. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2746#discussion_r292310826 ----==_mimepart_5cff57a344882_2bbe3fe6d72cd9601303a1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@mikkelfj commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 A client MAY attempt 0-RTT after receiving a Retry packet by sending 0-RTT
-packets to the connection ID provided by the server.  A client that sends
-additional 0-RTT packets without constructing a new cryptographic handshake
-message MUST NOT reset the packet number to 0 after a Retry packet; see
-{{packet-0rtt}}.
+packets to the connection ID provided by the server.  A client MUST NOT change
+the cryptographic handshake message it sends in response to receiving a Retry.
+
+A client MUST NOT reset the packet number to 0 for any packet number space after

It says that you must not reset to zero. It does not matter if you do not necessarily reset to 0 if you sometimes can. I'm not sure why 0 is important in higher packer number spaces, but if it is, it must be stated.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1721,7 +1721,12 @@ it can associate the peer's response with the corresponding PATH_CHALLENGE.
 ## Path Validation Responses
 
 On receiving a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, an endpoint MUST respond immediately by
-echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame.
+echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame,
+unless it has PATH_RESPONSE frames buffered for the same destination connection
+ID and wishes to limit memory consumption.
+
+An endpoint MUST NOT store or retransmit a PATH_RESPONSE frame, as a new
+PATH_CHALLENGE frame will be sent if another PATH_RESPONSE frame is needed.

I rather prefer the principle where you can process a frame without knowing the rest of the packet content. Since challenges are not retransmitted with the complexity that could entail, it is simpler to send at most one challenge per packet.

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Quick question: We're forbidding active migration during the handshake here, but what about a passive NAT rebinding that may happen? We obviously can't forbid that, so we must either handle it or have the connection die quickly?

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I couldn't find the hard rule "if you use a new path, use a new connection ID" in the draft in clear manner.
What I found is endpoint MUST change CID when using new local address. It does not mention about change on remote address.

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----==_mimepart_5cff6a01acbf7_6e013f9390acd95c44966b-- From nobody Tue Jun 11 01:51:50 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2063D1201E5 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 01:51:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.391 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.391 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ptYLZCl9eDeU for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 01:51:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E70A012013B for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 01:51:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 01:51:38 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560243098; bh=cuBv1U/g4vd56ivak4+JSPz+LDRvQSsD9nuPmZAF1wY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=V6PeBH7M7AkBakNGSGthMlZSTi38wQcdhVC3cUibM6MXHI4UJClrevy3Rd+hg/Isj p78hlJFst1QlvUcjuzRi2X5HECVKuYG0lroHvAcC8pHUoLa8Yrqitx1q++ZuFK3FMG DDga6ETtgd+8rqRCUsqxwdXAekZSz7yE1Eb39A9s= From: Tatsuhiro Tsujikawa Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] CID change still required in response to migration? (#2778) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cff6b9ac5e96_73063fd054ecd95c394558"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: tatsuhiro-t X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 08:51:49 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cff6b9ac5e96_73063fd054ecd95c394558 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Background context for this issue: In NAT rebinding test, quic tracker does not send any NEW_CONNECTION_ID. My server implementation refuses to use new path because there is no new CID left and cannot verify new path assuming that new CID is required for new path. But they say that using NEW_CONNECTION_ID for new path is not written in draft as requirement, so server should follow the new path. If using new CID for new path is a requirement, quic tracker should send NEW_CONNECTION_ID. If it is just a recommendation, server probably should use new path with same CID. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2778#issuecomment-500749791 ----==_mimepart_5cff6b9ac5e96_73063fd054ecd95c394558 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Background context for this issue:
In NAT rebinding test, quic tracker does not send any NEW_CONNECTION_ID.
My server implementation refuses to use new path because there is no new CID left and cannot verify new path assuming that new CID is required for new path.
But they say that using NEW_CONNECTION_ID for new path is not written in draft as requirement, so server should follow the new path.
If using new CID for new path is a requirement, quic tracker should send NEW_CONNECTION_ID.
If it is just a recommendation, server probably should use new path with same CID.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1721,7 +1721,12 @@ it can associate the peer's response with the corresponding PATH_CHALLENGE.
 ## Path Validation Responses
 
 On receiving a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, an endpoint MUST respond immediately by
-echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame.
+echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame,
+unless it has PATH_RESPONSE frames buffered for the same destination connection
+ID and wishes to limit memory consumption.
+
+An endpoint MUST NOT store or retransmit a PATH_RESPONSE frame, as a new
+PATH_CHALLENGE frame will be sent if another PATH_RESPONSE frame is needed.

The issue is not important enough to warrant its own "MUST NOT." If an endpoint wants to send a packetful of PATH_CHALLENGE frames, let it. The peer is allowed to send only one PATH_RESPONSE.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1340,7 +1340,9 @@ setting is the default value. When a 0-RTT QUIC connection is being used, the
 initial value of each server setting is the value used in the previous session.
 Clients MUST store the settings the server provided in the session being resumed
 and MUST comply with stored settings until the current server settings are
-received.
+received.  A client uses these initial values in a situation where it wants to

How about

A client uses these initial values when it wants to send requests...

Or perhaps remove the "want" altogether and simplify it further to

A client uses these initial values to send requests...

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  • Fix number agreement: a peer *is* able

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@mikkelfj we have the following text already:

The Retire Prior To field is a requirement for the peer to retire all connection
IDs with a sequence number less than the specified value. This includes the
initial and preferred_address transport parameter connection IDs. The peer
SHOULD immediately retire all the connection IDs.

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"The peer SHOULD stop using all the connection IDs as soon as possible and then retire the connection IDs by stop sending a RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame for each connection ID."

"retire immediately" is a bit too strong as several have commented.

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Right now we have a SETTINGS frame that can only be sent once (in each= direction), and if it is sent it has to be sent at a very precise point = (the start of the stream) or the connection is bust.

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For these reasons, it strikes me that we could simplify things, in lin= e with today's HTTP/3 design, by unframing settings and = placing them as the control stream header. For illustration this would lo= ok something like below, where Identifier and Value can be sent multiple = times.

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 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1=0D
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+=0D
|                           0x00 (i)                          ...=0D
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+=0D
|                          Setting Length (i)             ...=0D
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+=0D
|                        Identifier (i)                       ...=0D
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+=0D
|                           Value (i)                         ...=0D
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+=0D
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    • The HTTP_MISSING_SETTINGS snowflake becomes redundant
      • =0D
    • Not possible to send multiple SETTINGS on the control stream to trigg= er HTTP_UNEXPECTED_FRAME
      • =0D
    • Not possible to send a SETTINGS frame on the wrong stream to trigger = HTTP_WRONG_STREAM
      • =0D
    =0D
    • =0D
  • A peer that is happy with defaults can send 00 (2 bytes) rather than = 040 (3 bytes). This is a tinsy tiny benefit
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  • Forces endpoints to commit to SETTINGS very early (this is of dubious= benefit if SETTINGS only loosen values)
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aprops @dtikhonov: another way to avoid the need of HTTP_MISSING_SETTINGS is to loosen the restriction that SETTINGS must be sent as the first frame.

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If we want to be more correct going forward, I think HTTP should avoid talking about transport frames entirely.

Better would be "Close the connection with application error code FOO", etc. Because we don't only mean "Send a connection close frame", we actually mean "Close the connection and as part of that, send a connection close frame."

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I'm still confused by the purpose of this paragraph, it opens with discussion of the header (emphasis mine):

An HTTP/3 implementation MAY impose a limit on the maximum size of the header it will accept on an individual HTTP message

Since the rest of the paragraph discusses SETTINGS_MAX_HEADER_LIST_SIZE it seems that the limit only applies to the sum total of all header fields in a message. It is not possible to express the maximum size of a single header field. If so, we should change the wording slightly to make this clearer.

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----==_mimepart_5cffb8b24e191_2dc63fddc5acd964564a5-- From nobody Tue Jun 11 07:28:25 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA9C4120045 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 07:28:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.391 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.391 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xyxgnV1yDTcZ for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 07:28:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-17.smtp.github.com (out-17.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F1E1120152 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 07:28:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 07:28:21 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560263301; bh=Fj/iwz3P1jQfZj+Wfg1QuOX3+mrrsGWTVlrKk2lui7Y=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=mrASkjzP+VBCXmFvIk2DzkR9kLZR8nwolCs3KCWBhnn7hBVlYA/1miE0yzQGcma++ /gYW9g1Rl0e83bQ0oylfkXO3FF0OsGgts99JXfriGcPEdZBVwpEncFHvw9Oek10Zvy W5fZ5SLVO4xLOIet7VrEhs+fRZnRuivmCQz0inHs= From: Christian Huitema Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Migration before handshake completed is very messy (#2309) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cffba8564ca5_61b63fafb3ecd964111915"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: huitema X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 14:28:24 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cffba8564ca5_61b63fafb3ecd964111915 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What @martinthomson said. I would personally treat NAT rebinding during handshake as an error, on the assumption that it will be extremely rare and is caused by a broken NAT. We generally assume that NAT keep a UDP mapping active for at least 30 seconds -- the BEHAVE recommendation was 2 minutes. Having a mapping change in fewer than 2 RTT means the NAT is broken. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2309#issuecomment-500866985 ----==_mimepart_5cffba8564ca5_61b63fafb3ecd964111915 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

What @martinthomson said. I would personally treat NAT rebinding during handshake as an error, on the assumption that it will be extremely rare and is caused by a broken NAT.

We generally assume that NAT keep a UDP mapping active for at least 30 seconds -- the BEHAVE recommendation was 2 minutes. Having a mapping change in fewer than 2 RTT means the NAT is broken.

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Closing the connection introduces yet another way an attacker can interrupt the handshake. It may be the preferable option, but it's worth noting.

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----==_mimepart_5cffbad9eca84_1cbe3ff04e4cd9602400a9-- From nobody Tue Jun 11 07:31:37 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4B3312012A for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 07:31:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.391 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.391 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FQbb_H0ugUoO for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 07:31:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ABBC11200E5 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 07:31:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 07:31:32 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560263492; bh=ydz9gS01rf1Yr2WS6G4RVHAjoSbiu+x2NyPc3qg8FJM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=vOakB1SBDlDO2i969nJClLp1cKOm2BCB5O0il2Ve1N4sXfxtxKxBcRVldWntARIff N/LX5hpZTDruYRjAmyXzSdWQ6nYvBTQRU82JMwcse21CuCXjZp3agSE+Zg+2HVpzv6 c1Wl3rMFBMnaTjPkJb/6xjH5YxQA6t+VeNwVJAaA= From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Discuss max-header-list-size from the other side (#2774) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cffbb44ba40d_61cf3fafb3ecd964110122"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 14:31:36 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cffbb44ba40d_61cf3fafb3ecd964110122 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I also find it confusing that the proposed changes say in effect "A server that receives a larger header block than it is willing to handle" and "SHOULD NOT send an HTTP message header which exceeds the indicated size". Are we talking about header blocks or header lists? I think it would help to be consistent in terminology here. P.S pedantically it might be something "an endpoint that receives a header block which decompresses to a list that is larger than it is willing to serve" but thats a mouthful and seems more wordy than HTTP/2 -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2774#issuecomment-500868445 ----==_mimepart_5cffbb44ba40d_61cf3fafb3ecd964110122 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I also find it confusing that the proposed changes say in effect "A server that receives a larger header block than it is willing to handle" and "SHOULD NOT send an HTTP message header which exceeds the indicated size".

Are we talking about header blocks or header lists? I think it would help to be consistent in terminology here.

P.S pedantically it might be something "an endpoint that receives a header block which decompresses to a list that is larger than it is willing to serve" but thats a mouthful and seems more wordy than HTTP/2

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@ianswett You don't have to close the connection to protect against NAT rebinding. Ignoring packets from the wrong addresses during the handshake is simpler and more robust. The picoquic implementation does something like that: accept the content of the handshake packet (not initial) if it decrypts correctly, ignore any address change until the handshake is confirmed.

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Good point, that SGTM.

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----==_mimepart_5cffd9eb68449_5a23fa2a5acd9602055d-- From nobody Tue Jun 11 10:10:18 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3305F120019 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 10:10:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.391 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.391 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rEIIVS3R0XQ3 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 10:10:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 93230120150 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 10:10:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 10:10:12 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560273012; bh=3hVK980he9vsa9lyqwhK+DEjANFuJh1y7wTebYLsmUY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=XmIt55PjbLRnqjnPayD8WgRUDfvSJcPMwG7Z8XKgVk/DdDWm+lldpAiD14T/Nhv7S V4fwnzJa/0xOJFGycZOVgsXmL84GTMsDr4v+ya8Yo69PV0pATKpW3T085YVKN87JNr mELrqJ6d3j21BeFxUQ9ILcYJE3cBYSr7SZHNcIOA= From: David Schinazi Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cffe0746e5ef_33b93fc9f74cd9605285b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: DavidSchinazi X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 17:10:16 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cffe0746e5ef_33b93fc9f74cd9605285b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't think this is analogous to key updates. Due to the design of key updates, when you receive a packet with a new key phase, you need to install the new keys, otherwise you just can't decrypt it. The requirement to start sending using those new keys is not much of a stretch. Here, when you ask me to retire a CID, there's nothing I actually need to do to keep parsing packets. Asking the peer to retire a CID is closer to STOP_SENDING than it is to key updates. That said, our implementation will probably retire the CID immediately, but I really do not want text in the spec about closing the connection after some timer, because that opens up new avenues for attack. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2645#issuecomment-500937119 ----==_mimepart_5cffe0746e5ef_33b93fc9f74cd9605285b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I don't think this is analogous to key updates. Due to the design of key updates, when you receive a packet with a new key phase, you need to install the new keys, otherwise you just can't decrypt it. The requirement to start sending using those new keys is not much of a stretch. Here, when you ask me to retire a CID, there's nothing I actually need to do to keep parsing packets. Asking the peer to retire a CID is closer to STOP_SENDING than it is to key updates.

That said, our implementation will probably retire the CID immediately, but I really do not want text in the spec about closing the connection after some timer, because that opens up new avenues for attack.

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@DavidSchinazi what attacks did you have in mind? Obviously, our implementation should not do that if we think it creates new attacks.

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With the current text, we aren't explicitly closing the connection, but just implicitly retiring the CIDs after some time, if the peer doesn't do it themselves. So long as the new CIDs have different stateless reset tokens than the CIDs they replaced, I don't see any way for an attacker to cause the connection to be killed.

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@mikkelfj In general, each CID is associated with its own reset token. This allows for a straightforward stateless implementation of a stateless reset token generator. I don't think it would be a good idea to revisit that principle.

This is true, but the text currently allows for the SRTs associated with various CIDs to be identical. This becomes problematic if you're forcing retirement and want to stop recognizing some of the CIDs previously issued. However, that's a problem we already have and cover in the text:

The same Stateless Reset Token MAY be used for multiple connection IDs on the same connection. However, reuse of a Stateless Reset Token might expose an endpoint to denial of service if associated connection IDs are forgotten while the associated token is still active at a peer. An endpoint MUST ensure that packets with Destination Connection ID field values that correspond to a reused Stateless Reset Token are attributed to the same connection as long as the Stateless Reset Token is still usable, even when the connection ID has been retired. Otherwise, an attacker might be able to send a packet with a retired connection ID and cause the endpoint to produce a Stateless Reset that it can use to disrupt the connection, just as with the attacks in Section 21.8.

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This includes the +initial and preferred_address transport parameter connection IDs. The peer +SHOULD immediately retire all the connection IDs. + +The sender of the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame MAY remove the connection IDs after 3 +PTO, even if the peer has not retired them yet. The 3 PTO timer starts on ```suggestion PTO, even if the peer has not retired them yet. The 3-PTO timer starts on ``` > @@ -5018,6 +5034,31 @@ sequence number, or if a sequence number is used for different connection IDs, the endpoint MAY treat that receipt as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION. +The Retire Prior To field is a requirement for the peer to retire all connection +IDs with a sequence number less than the specified value. This includes the +initial and preferred_address transport parameter connection IDs. The peer +SHOULD immediately retire all the connection IDs. + +The sender of the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame MAY remove the connection IDs after 3 +PTO, even if the peer has not retired them yet. The 3 PTO timer starts on +acknowledgement of the packet containing the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame. Continued +use of the retired connection IDs after this point will likely result in a +stateless reset being sent. + +In order to prevent a stateless reset, sent in response to a heavily delayed ```suggestion In order to prevent a stateless reset sent in response to a heavily delayed ``` > @@ -5018,6 +5034,31 @@ sequence number, or if a sequence number is used for different connection IDs, the endpoint MAY treat that receipt as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION. +The Retire Prior To field is a requirement for the peer to retire all connection +IDs with a sequence number less than the specified value. This includes the +initial and preferred_address transport parameter connection IDs. The peer +SHOULD immediately retire all the connection IDs. + +The sender of the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame MAY remove the connection IDs after 3 +PTO, even if the peer has not retired them yet. The 3 PTO timer starts on +acknowledgement of the packet containing the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame. Continued +use of the retired connection IDs after this point will likely result in a +stateless reset being sent. + +In order to prevent a stateless reset, sent in response to a heavily delayed +packet using a retired connection ID, from closing the connection, the ```suggestion packet using a retired connection ID from closing the connection, the ``` This parenthetical phrase is pretty critical and this sentence is pretty comma-heavy. Consider promoting it. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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=0D = ----==_mimepart_5cffe8136fd92_31c03ffc798cd95c304343-- From nobody Tue Jun 11 10:43:18 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 974671201DA for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 10:43:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hqh44-Wv8hUf for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 10:43:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 19FD3120163 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 10:43:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 10:43:08 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560274988; bh=covAtUPNL4FslYcRiIbnhPT4OuEXzXHmGAFCT83WUeo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=A+q7m3gBkuIqt+JO0YKU7J8T6FFHSGdX+dUH1pANhj0q+xpRsfQt5oTqIgmw3EpJu s6wmNsDHgYSOuDXlbmTZWFS2DBFpLGTbEfYfAdH9I75Pq6103wWSsFQ5F7MgAnh/YK ECR/QzjyLFyPrZiisVmJtexiKwcvsLazsyIjV7yg= From: David Schinazi Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cffe82c183dd_37a73f96c72cd95c5750ad"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: DavidSchinazi X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 17:43:17 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cffe82c183dd_37a73f96c72cd95c5750ad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @ianswett Consider a MITM attacker that can intercept packets (prevent them from arriving now, and save them for replay later). Assume the server says "please retire CID X", the client switches from CID X to CID Y, and the attacker intercepts the last packet the client sent with CID X. Then the attacker waits 4 PTO and sends that packet to the server. If the server used the same reset token for both CID X and CID Y, then the server will send a stateless reset and the client will close the connection upon receiving it. There is no text in the spec today that says the server MUST pick different stateless reset tokens for different CIDs. Therefore, the ability to request to retire CIDs does open an avenue of attack similar to TCP RST. If we want to have a safe mechanism to request retiring CIDs, then we have two solutions: (1) we require the peer to retire the CID immediately (2) we make this a best-effort request with no enforcement of actually retiring the CID As discussed earlier, (1) is not practical. What does "immediately" mean when it takes time for packets to travel between endpoints? If it means send it on the same packet that carries the ACK, what happens when that packet gets lost? Do I need to send RETIRE_CID on every single packet in this window until one gets ACKed? I think this quickly because a mess full of corner-cases with security vulnerabilities at play, and I'm not confident we can get to the bottom of it rapidly. Option (2) is similar to STOP_SENDING. It's a way of telling the peer that they should do something because what their sending won't do anything useful. @nibanks I understand why you'd rather have (1) but I don't think the benefits you'll get from it outweigh the security risks. Even if we pick (2), I think everyone will implement this as retiring the CID either in their next outgoing packet or maybe at worst a couple packets later. And that gets you what you want without adding security risks. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2645#issuecomment-500949711 ----==_mimepart_5cffe82c183dd_37a73f96c72cd95c5750ad Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@ianswett Consider a MITM attacker that can intercept packets (prevent them from arriving now, and save them for replay later). Assume the server says "please retire CID X", the client switches from CID X to CID Y, and the attacker intercepts the last packet the client sent with CID X. Then the attacker waits 4 PTO and sends that packet to the server. If the server used the same reset token for both CID X and CID Y, then the server will send a stateless reset and the client will close the connection upon receiving it. There is no text in the spec today that says the server MUST pick different stateless reset tokens for different CIDs. Therefore, the ability to request to retire CIDs does open an avenue of attack similar to TCP RST.

If we want to have a safe mechanism to request retiring CIDs, then we have two solutions:
(1) we require the peer to retire the CID immediately
(2) we make this a best-effort request with no enforcement of actually retiring the CID

As discussed earlier, (1) is not practical. What does "immediately" mean when it takes time for packets to travel between endpoints? If it means send it on the same packet that carries the ACK, what happens when that packet gets lost? Do I need to send RETIRE_CID on every single packet in this window until one gets ACKed? I think this quickly because a mess full of corner-cases with security vulnerabilities at play, and I'm not confident we can get to the bottom of it rapidly.

Option (2) is similar to STOP_SENDING. It's a way of telling the peer that they should do something because what their sending won't do anything useful.

@nibanks I understand why you'd rather have (1) but I don't think the benefits you'll get from it outweigh the security risks. Even if we pick (2), I think everyone will implement this as retiring the CID either in their next outgoing packet or maybe at worst a couple packets later. And that gets you what you want without adding security risks.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1721,7 +1721,12 @@ it can associate the peer's response with the corresponding PATH_CHALLENGE.
 ## Path Validation Responses
 
 On receiving a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, an endpoint MUST respond immediately by
-echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame.
+echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame,
+unless it has PATH_RESPONSE frames buffered for the same destination connection
+ID and wishes to limit memory consumption.
+
+An endpoint MUST NOT store or retransmit a PATH_RESPONSE frame, as a new
+PATH_CHALLENGE frame will be sent if another PATH_RESPONSE frame is needed.

Do we have precedent for a fixed number of something allowed in a packet? We've previously said multiple ACKs isn't best practice, but it's not prohibited. This feels similar -- adding a new type of prohibition for something not actively harmful seems excessive. Simply don't require them to be processed, and let implementations choose.

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@DavidSchinazi I agree with you. My question to you is: what in the current text do you not like? You mentioned before that you'd like me to remove the 3-PTO text. I'm not sure I can do that. If I remove that text, then how quickly is the endpoint requiring the retirement supposed to wait before just retiring the CIDs any ways? If you're saying it's never allowed to retire them anyways, then that's an attack vector by the peer, IMO.

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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Jun 11 10:53:21 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 171F8120136 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 10:53:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.391 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.391 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Bs_jrS8rfVe0 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 10:53:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-18.smtp.github.com (out-18.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C172C120044 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 10:53:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 10:53:17 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560275598; bh=okafPDD+Rj/+v0nELu5BystuU+fBaUyUwjmL3BYZiAw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=2ccCkhXpxbY1IULROgh+/NipPiA7wOZiKHQ+TRRYSZAzayn0t5LC7qjEVkjImlakb 6ZcuH1Y3z6aBaEnMD2NiagatlILoiMBbETLvM0maw/UXvacqcOygs1p2wRlF82xmMH tDLzi0+sQdwiafdPNY/vhOgQiq0ki1+HwU0E4Gj0= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] allow PRIORITY frames referring to placeholders exceeding `SETTING_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` (#2761) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cffea8deebcd_78263f851f0cd9687445a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 17:53:20 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cffea8deebcd_78263f851f0cd9687445a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MikeBishop commented on this pull request. > @@ -1335,8 +1343,8 @@ The following settings are defined in HTTP/3: : The default value is unlimited. See {{header-formatting}} for usage. SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS (0x9): - : The default value is 0. However, this value SHOULD be set to a non-zero - value by servers. See {{placeholders}} for usage. + : The default value is 0. However, servers SHOULD set this value to 32 or Powers of two seem more natural in a protocol, but I am similarly uncaring about the specific number. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2761#discussion_r292585142 ----==_mimepart_5cffea8deebcd_78263f851f0cd9687445a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1335,8 +1343,8 @@ The following settings are defined in HTTP/3:
   : The default value is unlimited.  See {{header-formatting}} for usage.
 
   SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS (0x9):
-  : The default value is 0.  However, this value SHOULD be set to a non-zero
-    value by servers.  See {{placeholders}} for usage.
+  : The default value is 0.  However, servers SHOULD set this value to 32 or

Powers of two seem more natural in a protocol, but I am similarly uncaring about the specific number.

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@MikeBishop approved this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -633,18 +633,18 @@ tree could be discarded safely. Clients could potentially reference closed
 streams long after the server had discarded state, leading to disparate views of
 the prioritization the client had attempted to express.
 
-In HTTP/3, a number of placeholders are explicitly permitted by the server using
-the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` setting. Because the server commits to
-maintaining these placeholders in the prioritization tree, clients can use them
-with confidence that the server will not have discarded the state. Clients MUST
-NOT send the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` setting; receipt of this setting by a
-server MUST be treated as a connection error of type
+In HTTP/3, by using the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` setting, the server
+advertises the number of client-controlled placeholders it is committing to

"placeholders for which it is committing to maintain state." or "placeholders it is committing to maintain."

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I remove that text, then how quickly is the endpoint requiring the retirement supposed to wait before just retiring the CIDs any ways?

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@nibanks I would phrase the text as:

An endpoint can request that its peer retire connection IDs by sending
a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame with an increased Retire Prior To field.  
Upon receipt, the peer SHOULD retire the corresponding connection IDs
and send the corresponding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame in a timely
manner.  Failing to do so can cause packets to be delayed or lost and
harm connection performance as the original endpoint might not route
those connection IDs optimally after some delay.

The sender of the Retire Prior To field MUST keep track of the connection
IDs it wishes to retire until it has received a corresponding
RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame.

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Some small suggestions, but this LG overall. > @@ -5018,6 +5034,31 @@ sequence number, or if a sequence number is used for different connection IDs, the endpoint MAY treat that receipt as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION. +The Retire Prior To field is a requirement for the peer to retire all connection +IDs with a sequence number less than the specified value. This includes the +initial and preferred_address transport parameter connection IDs. The peer +SHOULD immediately retire all the connection IDs. + +The sender of the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame MAY remove the connection IDs after 3 +PTO, even if the peer has not retired them yet. The 3-PTO timer starts on I forgot about RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame the first time I read this. Can you say something like: "not retired them with RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID yet." > @@ -5018,6 +5034,31 @@ sequence number, or if a sequence number is used for different connection IDs, the endpoint MAY treat that receipt as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION. +The Retire Prior To field is a requirement for the peer to retire all connection +IDs with a sequence number less than the specified value. This includes the +initial and preferred_address transport parameter connection IDs. The peer +SHOULD immediately retire all the connection IDs. + +The sender of the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame MAY remove the connection IDs after 3 +PTO, even if the peer has not retired them yet. The 3-PTO timer starts on +acknowledgement of the packet containing the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame. Continued +use of the retired connection IDs after this point will likely result in a +stateless reset being sent. + +In order to prevent a stateless reset sent in response to a heavily delayed Rewording suggestion: "In order to prevent a heavily delayed packet with a retired connection ID from eliciting a stateless reset that closes the connection, the stateless reset token...." > @@ -5018,6 +5034,31 @@ sequence number, or if a sequence number is used for different connection IDs, the endpoint MAY treat that receipt as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION. +The Retire Prior To field is a requirement for the peer to retire all connection +IDs with a sequence number less than the specified value. This includes the +initial and preferred_address transport parameter connection IDs. The peer +SHOULD immediately retire all the connection IDs. + +The sender of the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame MAY remove the connection IDs after 3 +PTO, even if the peer has not retired them yet. The 3-PTO timer starts on +acknowledgement of the packet containing the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame. Continued +use of the retired connection IDs after this point will likely result in a +stateless reset being sent. It may be worth adding a paragraph for the receiver of the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame about stateless reset. ie: "If a stateless reset is received in response to a retired connection ID, the reset SHOULD be ignored and the receiver should immediately switch to a connection ID that has not been retired if it has not done so already." -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2769#pullrequestreview-248359629 ----==_mimepart_5cfff46380596_1c733f96a4ecd96411303a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@ianswett commented on this pull request.

Some small suggestions, but this LG overall.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -5018,6 +5034,31 @@ sequence number, or if a sequence number is used for different connection
 IDs, the endpoint MAY treat that receipt as a connection error of type
 PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.
 
+The Retire Prior To field is a requirement for the peer to retire all connection
+IDs with a sequence number less than the specified value.  This includes the
+initial and preferred_address transport parameter connection IDs.  The peer
+SHOULD immediately retire all the connection IDs.
+
+The sender of the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame MAY remove the connection IDs after 3
+PTO, even if the peer has not retired them yet.  The 3-PTO timer starts on

I forgot about RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame the first time I read this. Can you say something like: "not retired them with RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID yet."

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -5018,6 +5034,31 @@ sequence number, or if a sequence number is used for different connection
 IDs, the endpoint MAY treat that receipt as a connection error of type
 PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.
 
+The Retire Prior To field is a requirement for the peer to retire all connection
+IDs with a sequence number less than the specified value.  This includes the
+initial and preferred_address transport parameter connection IDs.  The peer
+SHOULD immediately retire all the connection IDs.
+
+The sender of the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame MAY remove the connection IDs after 3
+PTO, even if the peer has not retired them yet.  The 3-PTO timer starts on
+acknowledgement of the packet containing the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame.  Continued
+use of the retired connection IDs after this point will likely result in a
+stateless reset being sent.
+
+In order to prevent a stateless reset sent in response to a heavily delayed

Rewording suggestion: "In order to prevent a heavily delayed packet with a retired connection ID from eliciting a stateless reset that closes the connection, the stateless reset token...."

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -5018,6 +5034,31 @@ sequence number, or if a sequence number is used for different connection
 IDs, the endpoint MAY treat that receipt as a connection error of type
 PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.
 
+The Retire Prior To field is a requirement for the peer to retire all connection
+IDs with a sequence number less than the specified value.  This includes the
+initial and preferred_address transport parameter connection IDs.  The peer
+SHOULD immediately retire all the connection IDs.
+
+The sender of the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame MAY remove the connection IDs after 3
+PTO, even if the peer has not retired them yet.  The 3-PTO timer starts on
+acknowledgement of the packet containing the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame.  Continued
+use of the retired connection IDs after this point will likely result in a
+stateless reset being sent.

It may be worth adding a paragraph for the receiver of the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame about stateless reset. ie:
"If a stateless reset is received in response to a retired connection ID, the reset SHOULD be ignored and the receiver should immediately switch to a connection ID that has not been retired if it has not done so already."

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What if the peer never retires the CIDs? You're saying I'm never allowed to eventually drop the CIDs anyways? The way you have the text, the feature is optional, as long as you're willing to accept a possible performance hit.

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----==_mimepart_5cfff4bd52c61_50a23fba2f6cd968162470-- From nobody Tue Jun 11 11:39:09 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65B93120250 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 11:39:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.391 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.391 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FnSYxCBckufn for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 11:39:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9DC5C120152 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 11:39:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 11:39:04 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560278344; bh=SvuYre4+ehcWlCvGMN3UXH4PUGApsYvT3Fxj8G2hU/k=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=GOFFljghPcIi766391DaqyY5r0S1C1Zooe9mG0tM9bwEbBSpeP0l4HUttdY68455y KtQY0fmKcQXY9Muj9rVQRrGe3aCjbWbZSenqklA3y7YhNScR2gaWwTT4WWg2Bj8+1U 1JrvZYdCBVIFDYTuoHBtPHf0JkrdC7kzdvhmeurQ= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cfff54892f4b_4e533fd8004cd96c146548"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 18:39:07 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cfff54892f4b_4e533fd8004cd96c146548 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I like STOP_SENDING as an analogy overall. @nibanks I made a suggestion on the PR about what the client should do if it receives a stateless reset token for a retired connection ID. I think that may both allows the sender to immediately retire and provides the peer some advice on what to do if it sees a reset that's associated with an old CID? This approach basically allows the server to wait as long as they think is necessary, and if they really need to stop using the CID, they can send a stateless reset to force it. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2645#issuecomment-500970677 ----==_mimepart_5cfff54892f4b_4e533fd8004cd96c146548 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I like STOP_SENDING as an analogy overall. @nibanks I made a suggestion on the PR about what the client should do if it receives a stateless reset token for a retired connection ID. I think that may both allows the sender to immediately retire and provides the peer some advice on what to do if it sees a reset that's associated with an old CID?

This approach basically allows the server to wait as long as they think is necessary, and if they really need to stop using the CID, they can send a stateless reset to force it.

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@nibanks That is the catch-22, but retiring them before receiving a retired frame is somewhat pointless. Closing the connection is a security hazard.

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I'd say, if you have to wait for the retire frame to remain operational. If you give up, you should use a reset not a close to avoid the security risk.

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----==_mimepart_5cfff5f15d92a_3d033fe42accd96015864c-- From nobody Tue Jun 11 11:55:12 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B1A0120152 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 11:55:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Pomp1StTh1fA for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 11:55:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7860F120141 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 11:55:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 11:55:07 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560279307; bh=r6DIgIFh+KBiRb8LSEqyaMGX484bUYTbMy2oLmmQjPo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=vu9O6TWKf8EnZiLmR95HzrL84XFgn6pB4QGW3Ku3ATLM3q9y1/aYUy5LT2TVRE2Au eYRtuHUly4fuDPlnFHtWUb0pzhxto/IrYMOwsTd6SsjS8bjKvu45qu06hN5z6BIUQ3 h5+5vEJVF4PzNvS4nUsHXKdCqI/CRdL4ywTkDPKw= From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cfff90b420e6_2c643f98a58cd96c18187c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 18:55:10 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cfff90b420e6_2c643f98a58cd96c18187c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @mikkelfj I think we're all agreed now that explicitly closing the connection is not the answer, because of the security concerns with a delayed packet. But a stateless reset doesn't have those security concerns. Receiving a stateless reset sent in response to a packet using the retired CID only effects the peer if they haven't actually retired the CID yet. @ianswett STOP_SENDING isn't quite the same. When I send a STOP_SENDING frame, I've already made the decision to start dropping everything else I receive for that stream on the floor. So by the time the peer receives the frame, a whole flight of data might have been dropped. And we're all OK with that, because it doesn't effect the overall connection state. That's definitely not the case with connection IDs. If I were to start dropping all packets with those retired CIDs first, then best case I lose an entire flight of packets. Much worse if my packet was lost as well. In my scenario, I need to dump these CIDs right now, but the peer is still using them, so I need to give them some time to make the change. I keep the CIDs in my lookup/routing tables and send the frame out telling them to retire. Eventually they acknowledge the frame, so I know they got the new CIDs and the requirement to retire the old ones. This is where we seem to start having differing views. I cannot allow a peer to go on forever using the CIDs I told them to retire. Continued usage of those CIDs is causing all kinds of performance issues, with cross processor locking/contention, for all connections on the effected processors. Since this scenario should be infrequent, I'm OK to accept the perf hit for a while, but eventually enough is enough. I want the text to be clear that if a peer doesn't switch CIDs, then the connection will go away eventually. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2645#issuecomment-500976670 ----==_mimepart_5cfff90b420e6_2c643f98a58cd96c18187c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@mikkelfj I think we're all agreed now that explicitly closing the connection is not the answer, because of the security concerns with a delayed packet. But a stateless reset doesn't have those security concerns. Receiving a stateless reset sent in response to a packet using the retired CID only effects the peer if they haven't actually retired the CID yet.

@ianswett STOP_SENDING isn't quite the same. When I send a STOP_SENDING frame, I've already made the decision to start dropping everything else I receive for that stream on the floor. So by the time the peer receives the frame, a whole flight of data might have been dropped. And we're all OK with that, because it doesn't effect the overall connection state.

That's definitely not the case with connection IDs. If I were to start dropping all packets with those retired CIDs first, then best case I lose an entire flight of packets. Much worse if my packet was lost as well.

In my scenario, I need to dump these CIDs right now, but the peer is still using them, so I need to give them some time to make the change. I keep the CIDs in my lookup/routing tables and send the frame out telling them to retire. Eventually they acknowledge the frame, so I know they got the new CIDs and the requirement to retire the old ones.

This is where we seem to start having differing views. I cannot allow a peer to go on forever using the CIDs I told them to retire. Continued usage of those CIDs is causing all kinds of performance issues, with cross processor locking/contention, for all connections on the effected processors. Since this scenario should be infrequent, I'm OK to accept the perf hit for a while, but eventually enough is enough. I want the text to be clear that if a peer doesn't switch CIDs, then the connection will go away eventually.

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@nibanks yes, but I suggest that you wait for retire frame unless you run out of patience rather than closing you eyes and counting to three. If you get tired of waiting, you can start to reset, but that may depend on the endpoint more than a specific 3-PTO timeout. Hence it goes both ways: receiver should make an best effort to be timely, and sender should have a grown ups patience.

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----==_mimepart_5cfffab27163b_6b3f3fd7170cd964695dd-- From nobody Tue Jun 11 12:11:54 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4344120143 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 12:11:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.605 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.605 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HCf4quMKvgrv for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 12:11:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B85AE120099 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 12:11:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 12:11:50 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560280310; bh=MGnxdJJVNysbMVtkdL2EVIhkWvfb7D2vfvma7vl9ERk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=K25V7OdPve9kOzMxss/uxSSR+mOSv6FSlWhMdxAg4At9iceWhtyAaf/03XwU91266 IqF9g+K4y/JPV6IFIUFsNpPqsEn85I+P4XqvaYqrE4TDT1ehr0vLht0vIhq+aGoJsQ WtgOjKc96VjQpRdBFZfvWHMwwb+eX6fOL6tr/7qc= From: David Schinazi Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5cfffcf697433_727a3fda876cd9681587a1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: DavidSchinazi X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 19:11:54 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5cfffcf697433_727a3fda876cd9681587a1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @nibanks Here is part of your original description of this issue: > I have a scenario where I want to move a connection from one "partition" to another "partition" on the same machine. I use some bits from the CID to indicate the partition ID. My problem is, I've already sent out a CID to the peer indicating the old partition ID. If I change, I'm going to get a cross-partition lookup perf-hit for the rest of time on this connection. If the peer keeps using a CID you want to retire, the only impact is performance. So this is in line with what I proposed: keep this feature a SHOULD that is not enforced. Any attempt at enforcing this will open up security risks. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2645#issuecomment-500982333 ----==_mimepart_5cfffcf697433_727a3fda876cd9681587a1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@nibanks Here is part of your original description of this issue:

I have a scenario where I want to move a connection from one "partition" to another "partition" on the same machine. I use some bits from the CID to indicate the partition ID. My problem is, I've already sent out a CID to the peer indicating the old partition ID. If I change, I'm going to get a cross-partition lookup perf-hit for the rest of time on this connection.

If the peer keeps using a CID you want to retire, the only impact is performance. So this is in line with what I proposed: keep this feature a SHOULD that is not enforced. Any attempt at enforcing this will open up security risks.

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The more I think about this problem, the more pointless it seems to send a stateless reset, especially one that should explicitly be ignored, and one which the sender already knows will have that effect.

It's not like that implementation that receives a stateless reset will say "oh bummer, I forgot, I better hurry up!". No, either it is not implemented, or more time is required.

A reset just becomes another way of retransmitting a NEW CID frame with a prior to field.

So ultimately I think @DavidSchinazi is right in stating "a Should that is not enforced".

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@DavidSchinazi can you explain the security risk of responding to an old CID with a stateless reset, sometime after the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame was acknowledged?

@mikkelfj if the peer continues to use the old CID after acknowledging the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame, why would it assume the "sender already knows it will have that effect"? The peer doesn't seem to be doing as expected already, why assume anything else at that point? If the peer is ignoring the stateless reset AND continuing to use the old CID, I don't care if they mess things up for themselves. It has solved the performance problem affecting ALL connections on the related processors.

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@nibanks the issue is that an attacker can close the connection if the stateless reset tokens are the same for different CIDs. Perhaps this wording gets you what you want:

An endpoint can request that its peer retire connection IDs by sending
a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame with an increased Retire Prior To field.  
Upon receipt, the peer SHOULD retire the corresponding connection IDs
and send the corresponding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame in a timely
manner.  Failing to do so can cause packets to be delayed or lost and
harm connection performance as the original endpoint might not route
those connection IDs optimally after some delay.

The sender of the Retire Prior To field MUST keep track of the connection
IDs it wishes to retire until it has received a corresponding
RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame, with one exception: if the sender of the
Retire Prior To field has used distinct stateless reset tokens for all of
their issued connection IDs, and 3 times the PTO has elapsed since it
received an acknowledgment for its Retire Prior To field, then it MAY lose
track of that connection ID, and respond to packets with that connection
ID with the corresponding stateless reset token.

This allows you to implement the enforcement you want while keeping the spec written in such a way that most implementations don't accidentally allow this attack by being overly enthusiastic in enforcing this.

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----==_mimepart_5d0025f0d9655_69123ff959ccd96c1320b4-- From nobody Tue Jun 11 15:14:06 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FE1C12009C for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 15:14:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.605 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.605 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aO4dGTRCu0iY for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 15:14:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5AEEF12001E for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 15:14:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 15:14:02 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560291242; bh=jFdPySeHHdulavTwgChMMOX3L+1mgZv5InE8s6mb3VY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=belve2P28SbY65IrK2H3mb8De9yH8xo+fvAIEhLX1nznntOCsgrZVET5CKEEYcpK7 hO4bQgsF+x1fvZDfES0F/4+9aOjkFBWKD67vCDHM7ywLimgCg2T5p4F2qm5xPvZOJc D+TiWHzHp17kZVhVN37IEZmhOKRzNPbnzzoliEHw= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Request to Retire Locally Issued CIDs (#2769) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d0027aa36ad1_6d7f3fb9306cd968160070"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 22:14:05 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d0027aa36ad1_6d7f3fb9306cd968160070 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson commented on this pull request. > @@ -994,6 +994,14 @@ packets sent from only one local address. An endpoint that migrates away from a local address SHOULD retire all connection IDs used on that address once it no longer plans to use that address. +The endpoint can explicitly require its peer to retire connection IDs by sending +a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame with an increased Retire Prior To field. The peer is +required to retire these connection IDs in a timely manner. If the peer does +not retire the connection IDs within 3 PTO of acknowledging the packet with the +NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame, the endpoint MAY remove the connection IDs anyways. If I don't think "anyways" is right. ```suggestion NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame, the endpoint MAY remove the connection IDs. If ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2769#pullrequestreview-247903956 ----==_mimepart_5d0027aa36ad1_6d7f3fb9306cd968160070 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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@DavidSchinazi looks good to me. I will update the PR. Thanks for the proposed text.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -5018,6 +5042,35 @@ sequence number, or if a sequence number is used for different connection
 IDs, the endpoint MAY treat that receipt as a connection error of type
 PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.
 
+The Retire Prior To field is a request for the peer to retire all connection IDs
+with a sequence number less than the specified value.  This includes the initial
+and preferred_address transport parameter connection IDs.  The peer SHOULD
+immediately retire all the connection IDs.

I would change this sentence to match the text before: The peer SHOULD retire the corresponding connection IDs and send the corresponding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame in a timely manner. and also delete the next two paragraphs as they are redundant and contradict the "Detecting a Stateless Reset" section.

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@nibanks commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -5018,6 +5042,35 @@ sequence number, or if a sequence number is used for different connection
 IDs, the endpoint MAY treat that receipt as a connection error of type
 PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.
 
+The Retire Prior To field is a request for the peer to retire all connection IDs
+with a sequence number less than the specified value.  This includes the initial
+and preferred_address transport parameter connection IDs.  The peer SHOULD
+immediately retire all the connection IDs.

To be clear, you suggesting I remove these two paragraphs?

If a stateless reset is received in response to a retired connection ID, the
reset SHOULD be ignored and the receiver SHOULD immediately switch to a
connection ID that has not been retired if it has not done so already.

In order to prevent a heavily delayed packet with a retired connection ID from
eliciting a stateless reset that closes the connection, the stateless reset
token of the retired connection IDs SHOULD NOT be reused.

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@DavidSchinazi commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -5018,6 +5042,35 @@ sequence number, or if a sequence number is used for different connection
 IDs, the endpoint MAY treat that receipt as a connection error of type
 PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.
 
+The Retire Prior To field is a request for the peer to retire all connection IDs
+with a sequence number less than the specified value.  This includes the initial
+and preferred_address transport parameter connection IDs.  The peer SHOULD
+immediately retire all the connection IDs.

Yes

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At the end of the day, I think the tradeoff is between the stateless reset sticking out and wasting padding bytes. Adding some text saying that endpoints that use longer connection IDs than their peers should pad their very short packets if they care about stateless resets not sticking out is the least awkward solution here? I don't think this is a really bad issue in practice.

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----==_mimepart_5d0034cc83e5a_71203fe5718cd96c11689a-- From nobody Tue Jun 11 16:31:45 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F3B212004C for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 16:31:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kfuqnthD2YOA for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 16:31:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E4FF612002F for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 16:31:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 16:31:41 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560295901; bh=++qz6RgxJl28ElFd3EiVPV9/z462DnwrcJIipQP5CQA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=HxRVzRj1+r9BVNt13NafEpdUiYW+bcItMF4W7qZTviePTfSuMjt4bdV/gSXPP70th /eBWNpQ4uR8KAJDfsCO+9zdh4zJbu8Ao/+kRvWAeXwryBO0piA5yvE7D1CPiA6lxFG bsvrrTT7HnKRAUoGZyU6zwUUHYImkvQ7+LFwPVq8= From: Ryan Hamilton Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] If you want a Stateless Reset you need to send a much larger packet than before (#2770) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d0039ddc84f1_48543f97ecccd96816097e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: RyanAtGoogle X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 23:31:44 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d0039ddc84f1_48543f97ecccd96816097e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To clarify, is it "longer connection IDs than their peers" or is it "peer's connection ID is smaller than a stateless reset token"? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2770#issuecomment-501062062 ----==_mimepart_5d0039ddc84f1_48543f97ecccd96816097e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

To clarify, is it "longer connection IDs than their peers" or is it "peer's connection ID is smaller than a stateless reset token"?

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Use 'on a control stream' instead of 'on either control stream'.

This is consistent with the changes made by #2708.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2784

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  • Fix inconsistency.

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In principle, I like that: Note the use of "abort the stream" instead of RESET_STREAM in most cases. However, somewhere there has to be a mapping of those terms into what it means for the transport, just so everyone's clear.

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----==_mimepart_5d003bcf585ff_277f3f99f9acd9608388-- From nobody Tue Jun 11 16:42:09 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A24E12004C for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 16:42:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.605 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.605 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dWUqYSo3fKxR for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 16:42:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-11.smtp.github.com (out-11.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 01F1812001E for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 16:42:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 16:42:05 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560296525; bh=sC2govuaNVoCxIq8i45Px/KZ4eIPW78EDUwW2Z4y2B8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=DIhTCi3fQojqS4AzNdWEhP89MTuoFBYlp5kLXt1L0qkn9TXxhtt3cbsycJYd2C1AO b9lMjzw+m+uwnxMrvHCJKf6Uiq1zxsZhwI4w8lzLU0SW3xSY5EbxDG4zPhLoyDUCUE 4Rrg2swW+4KIaxjI/SjXJq6cdI6LFeVHle3flDDY= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Discuss max-header-list-size from the other side (#2774) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d003c4d4a49c_6e833fdd158cd96c65412"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 23:42:08 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d003c4d4a49c_6e833fdd158cd96c65412 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I'm still confused by this paragraph, it opens with discussion of the header (emphasis mine): > > > An HTTP/3 implementation MAY impose a limit on the maximum size of **the header** it will accept on an individual HTTP message > > Since the rest of the paragraph discusses SETTINGS_MAX_HEADER_LIST_SIZE it seems that the limit only applies to the sum total of all header fields in a message. It is not possible to express the maximum size of a single header field. If so, we should change the wording slightly to make this clearer. The message header consists of a sequence header fields. The limit is on the full size of the message header, not any one field. There's ongoing discussion in http-core about how best to accommodate the colloquial usage of "header" to refer to an individual field. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2774#issuecomment-501064228 ----==_mimepart_5d003c4d4a49c_6e833fdd158cd96c65412 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I'm still confused by this paragraph, it opens with discussion of the header (emphasis mine):

An HTTP/3 implementation MAY impose a limit on the maximum size of the header it will accept on an individual HTTP message

Since the rest of the paragraph discusses SETTINGS_MAX_HEADER_LIST_SIZE it seems that the limit only applies to the sum total of all header fields in a message. It is not possible to express the maximum size of a single header field. If so, we should change the wording slightly to make this clearer.

The message header consists of a sequence header fields. The limit is on the full size of the message header, not any one field. There's ongoing discussion in http-core about how best to accommodate the colloquial usage of "header" to refer to an individual field.

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----==_mimepart_5d003c4d4a49c_6e833fdd158cd96c65412-- From nobody Tue Jun 11 16:46:06 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A784B12008B for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 16:46:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HYylJzIugbfv for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 16:46:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C716312001E for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 16:46:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 16:46:01 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560296761; bh=tWK4CU3Cw+3IAwASMQIvi/CQM0OIPovZPRllWF1zO8k=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=eYpF0nns3MfHxnG9EhkDJd7rfnuH4+dTH8ucrEf/aYv/irUZqmg7C8OMoe9D5g04r 8LHW2WAf+om7/r6ORQ6GqXufWfCLmxfIZBr85IobOovc1Xo8UYv3GJuenXQ7LMRqQN 6hBjjKAXsDHr52scbUrLG0n3l5IaV/ud+MKHxF2g= From: Yang Chi Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Don't store or retransmit PATH_RESPONSE frames, avoid buffering (#2729) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d003d39baa4f_51653fb4bf6cd960106068"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: yangchi X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 23:46:05 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d003d39baa4f_51653fb4bf6cd960106068 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Should there also be changes in the recovery specs? Now that PATH_RESPONSE shouldn't be retransmitted, loss timer may not be set if the only inflight packet has only PATH_RESPONSE frame (unless one wants to waste CPU). But it still is an ack-eliciting packet. In the current recovery doc, as long as ack-eliciting packets are inflight, loss timer will be set up. So this sounds buggy to me. Does this make sense? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2729#issuecomment-501065019 ----==_mimepart_5d003d39baa4f_51653fb4bf6cd960106068 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Should there also be changes in the recovery specs? Now that PATH_RESPONSE shouldn't be retransmitted, loss timer may not be set if the only inflight packet has only PATH_RESPONSE frame (unless one wants to waste CPU). But it still is an ack-eliciting packet. In the current recovery doc, as long as ack-eliciting packets are inflight, loss timer will be set up. So this sounds buggy to me. Does this make sense?

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It's smaller than their peer's. The stateless reset token conveniently fits in the space we would ordinarily dedicate to an authentication tag.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1192,7 +1191,6 @@ of the associated Element ID fields.
 | 00      | Request stream   | Stream ID                       |
 | 01      | Push stream      | Push ID                         |
 | 10      | Placeholder      | Placeholder ID                  |
-| 11      | Current stream   | Absent                          |

That's a nice simplification! Done in 5cca97b.

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While the proposal is interesting, I think my preference goes to retaining the current design.

I agree that HTTP_MISSING_SETTINGS is unnecessary, it is my view that it should be merged to HTTP_UNEXPECTED_FRAME.

But once it gets done, it would be my view that the complexity is indifferent; there is no difference in the encoding-side (just sending different series of octets). On the decoding-side, it either having a state that receives series of special octets or a state that receives a particular frame.

That said, the reason I prefer using a frame for carrying the settings is because it makes the design consistent. Having a layer that is used for "frame"-ing all the information being exchanged is a good thing.

IMO the use of HTTP_UNEXPECTED_FRAME or HTTP_WRONG_STREAM in relation to SETTINGS frame is fine, because use of these errors are the design pattern we use for other frames too. For example, HTTP_UNEXPECTED_FRAME is used to indicate error when the peer sends a DATA frame before a HEADERS frame. Or transmission of a HEADERS frame on the control stream triggers the HTTP_WRONG_STREAM error.

I prefer using that same design pattern for everything, rather than creating different rules for the way things are being sent in each state.

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So I'm seeing a few concerns highlighted here:

  1. Some people would like to keep the delay encoding small (Ian); others don't care if it is bigger (Christian).
  2. Native time is often in milliseconds. Having to encoding microseconds with an exponent gets close (2^10 =~ 10^3), but it's not great (Kazuho).

The strength of feeling isn't strong, but my impression is that we have three options.

a. Use an exponent (leave as-is).
b. Move to multiplication instead of exponentiation.
c. Drop any scaling factor and encode the value directly.

As I mentioned before, there seems to be slightly more interest in option b, but it's not a strong one.

Of those who don't seem to like option b, Christian seems to prefer c and a over b and Ian seems happy with a.

Is that a fair assessment?

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There are other frames that are not retransmitted, and the recovery spec is designed to deal with that.

The second and third paragraph of 5.3.2 discuss this case: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-recovery-20#section-6.3.2

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----==_mimepart_5d01012e870e0_eab3fa197acd96033477b-- From nobody Wed Jun 12 06:47:50 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D22D1200E3 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 06:47:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id n3AQpE1A4Fr0 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 06:47:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-21.smtp.github.com (out-21.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.204]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D56B912004F for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 06:47:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2019 06:47:46 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560347266; bh=nV4qNjF5V91Rw9nZM/8ltaQkBdpk069OW67rseCtt0M=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=dJwQtcX6KIRtru0J6ati9dlOYFaA5JsdXlBhfeCXyEo+YAMWbzJTOUrNGSvlYlAv8 Tkan0/F3HnSXxdgMc1b5L6V8R4mWW53zIokbV6eAHRCqnLyeVp8NbYWvRSKrmhiXcC 84l5OtUYsinHm83fLEemUoSn8Ijv6c9/QP0C5gaU= From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove ack_delay_exponent TP (#2670) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d010282a388c_34603fe8de6cd96c374728"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2019 13:47:49 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d010282a388c_34603fe8de6cd96c374728 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm in the same boat as Christian. If we're willing to make a change, drop the scaling factor; otherwise just leave things as they are. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2670#issuecomment-501281023 ----==_mimepart_5d010282a388c_34603fe8de6cd96c374728 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I'm in the same boat as Christian. If we're willing to make a change, drop the scaling factor; otherwise just leave things as they are.

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@martinthomson I believe that's an accurate assessment.

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----==_mimepart_5d01036060e39_17533f900eacd96430282a-- From nobody Wed Jun 12 06:55:46 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7A7C12012C for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 06:55:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9Hhn103ZI9b1 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 06:55:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 19C801200E3 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 06:55:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2019 06:55:41 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560347742; bh=bgUuF9O//KCnfYUHF+9zSbwIv4hTZbmo2Z9Kshn8Qkk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=RzQppqi+ffKMDFEEpQU+ZRMC9igcQspI2iXlqBeg+uwa6tQuonsh8p+iwMUlwjdJH AYqzM4e5vO5z0P/dQm/i54g+3lfoIgMZE5H/ArObBCosbs2STS+dnip4bnLSrKqS/6 0j25fICcCgDuLqX+hgL1O6IXZeXH+VTXdlM2sYhc= From: Yang Chi Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Don't store or retransmit PATH_RESPONSE frames, avoid buffering (#2729) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d01045de9686_53ca3f88fb0cd96028958f"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: yangchi X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2019 13:55:45 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d01045de9686_53ca3f88fb0cd96028958f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (Is that the right section? There is no 5.3.2 and the link was to 6.3.2.) I don't think 6.3.2 addresses this. The 2nd and 3rd paragraph in 6.3.2 addresses what to send after loss timer fires. My comment is about the loss timer should not even be set in the first place if PATH_RESPONSE is all you have inflight. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2729#issuecomment-501284453 ----==_mimepart_5d01045de9686_53ca3f88fb0cd96028958f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

(Is that the right section? There is no 5.3.2 and the link was to 6.3.2.)
I don't think 6.3.2 addresses this. The 2nd and 3rd paragraph in 6.3.2 addresses what to send after loss timer fires. My comment is about the loss timer should not even be set in the first place if PATH_RESPONSE is all you have inflight.

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Yes, 6.3.2

If you have inflight bytes, you'd like to remove them eventually. The recovery document uses the PTO timer to do that. I would not be comfortable not including PATH_RESPONSE in bytes in flight and I'm not comfortable saying you don't have to worry about removing those bytes, hence the existing text in recovery.

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Considering that we can easily use a varint to encode every multiplier value we want, an exponent seems to be strictly worse than a multiplier.
The only reason to keep the exponent would be our laziness to update our implementations. In my opinion, this is a small price to pay for future flexibility (and to get rid of the rounding issues that @kazuho described).

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----==_mimepart_5d010796adccc_57773fe2d82cd968676dc-- From nobody Wed Jun 12 07:43:27 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D0EA1201C9 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 07:43:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.806 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.806 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.415, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bAhMn0t9OSPM for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 07:43:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F09F012021C for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 07:43:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2019 07:43:20 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560350600; bh=aQ8q6GpmTS+e2YnFOOlcWBQLx5C33zbBt5DnOKv4TlQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=LToIuytqt+XSNQ4PTO2PCr/iyPqqPIQQWkoAQ1khrTKxOM6XtmA9DmrBoqmLTKuHK vL6qoLIwmpNIJpgNZDrBH2idwXwIL6hlkeAoJ09jE5zIBZ7Y38kecBBovGXLgqAHE9 tKRHaqvjZc/0w9N7xxxnJcFaKvpXsbl6DUu6CCJA= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove ack_delay_exponent TP (#2670) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d010f88bbaaa_24c83ffb000cd95c14735e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2019 14:43:26 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d010f88bbaaa_24c83ffb000cd95c14735e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit These rounding issues make no sense to me, as I have argued in the above. On the contrary division becomes cheaper with exponents when you have to compute the actual timer interval. But even with a multiplier, the sender controls the factor and can therefore divide by a constant, so a multiplier is not fatal compared to an exponent. I just don't see a great benefit. I'm inclined to think that we could do without a multiplier or exponent altogether if we have microsecond units always. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2670#issuecomment-501305634 ----==_mimepart_5d010f88bbaaa_24c83ffb000cd95c14735e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

These rounding issues make no sense to me, as I have argued in the above. On the contrary division becomes cheaper with exponents when you have to compute the actual timer interval. But even with a multiplier, the sender controls the factor and can therefore divide by a constant, so a multiplier is not fatal compared to an exponent. I just don't see a great benefit.

I'm inclined to think that we could do without a multiplier or exponent altogether if we have microsecond units always.

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Ye that makes sense. Thank you!

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I remembered that we touched on some of this in #2526

Thanks for the feedback @kazuho

I prefer using that same design pattern for everything, rather than creating different rules for the way things are being sent in each state.

Push streams break this pattern but c'est la vie.

I think I'm happy to kill this issue/proposal.

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----==_mimepart_5d01166818354_2ce93facce2cd96c26987c-- From nobody Wed Jun 12 08:19:41 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4AF01201E8 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 08:19:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.298 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.298 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_OBFUSCATE_10_20=0.093, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HiSHh0SNPtsw for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 08:19:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 296F11201E6 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 08:19:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2019 08:19:36 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560352776; bh=QIuvy1bvttV1Q3RM47cKJJzMxn/AB0Le5XbHRtzOugE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=wTLsooOSLTUa3RS9R66YdlN/qksYRvt0baoeUfsdtYXNYlLBR/SUkyR+FNvHKpUgh aA/5qOutAdgGn7PApDoTb4T87QQcUSJUrJRZxBCzLU2DBbQ88OegqNaW5r6FvOuSt9 e01sbzgnAb+sx8bvYpl5PHCU616Pn0HE3fK9kBEU= From: Christian Huitema Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove ack_delay_exponent TP (#2670) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d011808b569d_45513fadf3ecd96c1526c7"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: huitema X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2019 15:19:40 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d011808b569d_45513fadf3ecd96c1526c7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The whole thing looks like a storm in a cup of tea. I don't buy the implementation issues. On a modern computer, computing "x = (internal-value*unit)" has exactly the same cost as "x = (internal-value*unit)>>exponent". There is no branching involved, the instructions are pipe-lined, the next pipeline stall will come during the encoding to varint in all cases. My preference if we do change things is to have a straight microsecond count, no scaling involved. But I get Ian's point that this makes the varint encoding slightly longer, which causes some overhead. That would be an argument for just keeping the spec as is. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2670#issuecomment-501322145 ----==_mimepart_5d011808b569d_45513fadf3ecd96c1526c7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The whole thing looks like a storm in a cup of tea. I don't buy the implementation issues. On a modern computer, computing "x = (internal-valueunit)" has exactly the same cost as "x = (internal-valueunit)>>exponent". There is no branching involved, the instructions are pipe-lined, the next pipeline stall will come during the encoding to varint in all cases.

My preference if we do change things is to have a straight microsecond count, no scaling involved. But I get Ian's point that this makes the varint encoding slightly longer, which causes some overhead. That would be an argument for just keeping the spec as is.

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Technically, the SRTs don't all have to have been distinct, there just has to be zero overlap between the Retire Prior To set and the later ones. So you could do as @mikkelfj has alluded to earlier, using the same SRT for a period of time, then forcing the retirement of all of those because you changed some input to your generation function, and everything you issue new has moved to a different SRT.

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@martinthomson Once you're talking about distributed peers, I think we're well in the space of multi-machine multipath? Or is there some other use case you have in mind?

Not Martin, but I think this could as easily be different processes/partitions on the same machine. With UDP, they could all be sending from the same source port, after all. Regardless, I think 3PTO is a totally reasonable period of time to expect them to get their coordination sorted out.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1155,22 +1151,25 @@ The PRIORITY frame payload has the following fields:
 
   PT (Prioritized Element Type):
   : A two-bit field indicating the type of element being prioritized (see
-    {{prioritized-element-types}}). When sent on a request stream, this MUST be
-    set to `11`.  When sent on the control stream, this MUST NOT be set to `11`.

We probably want to retain the "MUST NOT be set to 11 here, even if we call it out as an error later.

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If we took this proposal, we'd be cementing a new pattern: Unidirecti= onal streams might have a header following the type. Push already does (= and in London we rejected a proposal to make Push ID behave the way SETTI= NGS does instead, #2526). I like that pattern, and alongside #2781 this would remove the concept of frame-that-can-only-be= -first. That's decidedly appealing.

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Some more small suggestions, but looking close. > @@ -994,6 +994,22 @@ packets sent from only one local address. An endpoint that migrates away from a local address SHOULD retire all connection IDs used on that address once it no longer plans to use that address. +An endpoint can request that its peer retire connection IDs by sending a +NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame with an increased Retire Prior To field. Upon receipt, New_CONNECTION_ID frame(s)? > @@ -994,6 +994,22 @@ packets sent from only one local address. An endpoint that migrates away from a local address SHOULD retire all connection IDs used on that address once it no longer plans to use that address. +An endpoint can request that its peer retire connection IDs by sending a +NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame with an increased Retire Prior To field. Upon receipt, +the peer SHOULD retire the corresponding connection IDs and send the +corresponding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame in a timely manner. Failing to do so +can cause packets to be delayed or lost and harm connection performance as the I'm a bit vague on "delayed or lost and harm connection performance as the original endpoint might not route those connection IDs optimally after some delay." Instead, how about "delayed, lost, or cause the original endpoint to send a stateless reset in response to a connection ID it can no longer route correctly."? > @@ -994,6 +994,22 @@ packets sent from only one local address. An endpoint that migrates away from a local address SHOULD retire all connection IDs used on that address once it no longer plans to use that address. +An endpoint can request that its peer retire connection IDs by sending a +NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame with an increased Retire Prior To field. Upon receipt, +the peer SHOULD retire the corresponding connection IDs and send the +corresponding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame in a timely manner. Failing to do so +can cause packets to be delayed or lost and harm connection performance as the +original endpoint might not route those connection IDs optimally after some +delay. + +The sender of the Retire Prior To field MUST keep track of the connection IDs it I still think this MUST is unenforceable and a bit odd. If my load balancer restarts in 5 seconds and the peer hasn't retired the old CIDs by then, they're still getting retired. > @@ -994,6 +994,22 @@ packets sent from only one local address. An endpoint that migrates away from a local address SHOULD retire all connection IDs used on that address once it no longer plans to use that address. +An endpoint can request that its peer retire connection IDs by sending a +NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame with an increased Retire Prior To field. Upon receipt, +the peer SHOULD retire the corresponding connection IDs and send the +corresponding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame in a timely manner. Failing to do so +can cause packets to be delayed or lost and harm connection performance as the +original endpoint might not route those connection IDs optimally after some +delay. + +The sender of the Retire Prior To field MUST keep track of the connection IDs it +wishes to retire until it has received a corresponding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID +frame, with one exception: if the sender of the Retire Prior To field has used +distinct stateless reset tokens for all of their issued connection IDs, and 3 +times the PTO has elapsed since it received an acknowledgment for its Retire +Prior To field, then it MAY lose track of that connection ID, and respond to ```suggestion Prior To field, then it MAY drop state for that connection ID, and respond to ``` > @@ -5018,6 +5042,28 @@ sequence number, or if a sequence number is used for different connection IDs, the endpoint MAY treat that receipt as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION. +The Retire Prior To field is a request for the peer to retire all connection IDs +with a sequence number less than the specified value. This includes the initial +and preferred_address transport parameter connection IDs. The peer SHOULD +retire the corresponding connection IDs and send the corresponding +RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame in a timely manner frame(s) -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2769#pullrequestreview-248966981 ----==_mimepart_5d0152fd72017_7acf3fdd578cd95c1061063 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@ianswett commented on this pull request.

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Some more small suggestions, but looking close.

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An endpoint that migrates away from a local address SHOULD retire all connection IDs used on that address once it no longer plans to use that address. +An endpoint can request that its peer retire connection IDs by sending a +NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame with an increased Retire Prior To field. Upon receipt, +the peer SHOULD retire the corresponding connection IDs and send the +corresponding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame in a timely manner. Failing to do so +can cause packets to be delayed or lost and harm connection performance as the +original endpoint might not route those connection IDs optimally after some +delay. + +The sender of the Retire Prior To field MUST keep track of the connection IDs it Change it to a `SHOULD`? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -994,6 +994,22 @@ packets sent from only one local address.  An endpoint that migrates away from a
 local address SHOULD retire all connection IDs used on that address once it no
 longer plans to use that address.
 
+An endpoint can request that its peer retire connection IDs by sending a
+NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame with an increased Retire Prior To field.  Upon receipt,
+the peer SHOULD retire the corresponding connection IDs and send the
+corresponding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame in a timely manner.  Failing to do so
+can cause packets to be delayed or lost and harm connection performance as the
+original endpoint might not route those connection IDs optimally after some
+delay.
+
+The sender of the Retire Prior To field MUST keep track of the connection IDs it

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit erickinnear requested changes on this pull request. Thanks for writing this up! This seems like a pretty good start if we're adding a "Please Retire" field to a NEW_CONNECTION_ID. A few comments and some wording suggestions. I think we also need the requirement to replace all of the retired ones, otherwise we risk closing down to just a single CID every time we retire. > @@ -5018,6 +5042,28 @@ sequence number, or if a sequence number is used for different connection IDs, the endpoint MAY treat that receipt as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION. +The Retire Prior To field is a request for the peer to retire all connection IDs +with a sequence number less than the specified value. This includes the initial +and preferred_address transport parameter connection IDs. The peer SHOULD +retire the corresponding connection IDs and send the corresponding +RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame in a timely manner Editorial nit: Missing `.` ```suggestion RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame in a timely manner. ``` > @@ -994,6 +994,22 @@ packets sent from only one local address. An endpoint that migrates away from a local address SHOULD retire all connection IDs used on that address once it no longer plans to use that address. +An endpoint can request that its peer retire connection IDs by sending a +NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame with an increased Retire Prior To field. Upon receipt, For readability, I might make a few editorial changes to this paragraph: ``` The issuer of a connection ID can request that its peer retire that connection ID by sending a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame with a non-zero Retire Prior To field. ``` ``` Upon receipt of such a frame, an endpoint SHOULD retire active connection IDs with sequence numbers lower than that specified in the Retire Prior To field by sending a RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame for each retired connection ID in a timely manner. ``` ``` Failure to retire connection IDs in a timely manner when requested can harm connection performance by causing packets to be delayed or lost, since the issuer of the connection IDs might no longer have the ability to route packets using those connection IDs correctly. ``` Minor, but this also helps to align with the language here -- referring to "issuers" of connection IDs, and behavior specific to each endpoint, etc. > @@ -5018,6 +5042,28 @@ sequence number, or if a sequence number is used for different connection IDs, the endpoint MAY treat that receipt as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION. +The Retire Prior To field is a request for the peer to retire all connection IDs +with a sequence number less than the specified value. This includes the initial +and preferred_address transport parameter connection IDs. The peer SHOULD +retire the corresponding connection IDs and send the corresponding +RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame in a timely manner + +The sender of the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame MAY remove the connection IDs after 3 +PTO, even if the peer has not retired them with RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID yet. The +3-PTO timer starts on acknowledgement of the packet containing the +NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame. Continued use of the retired connection IDs after this +point will likely result in a stateless reset being sent. This is slightly conflicting with the text above -- do we really want to have the same (but not quite) text in two places vs. just keeping it above and describing the field down here? We could just remove this paragraph. > +RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame in a timely manner + +The sender of the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame MAY remove the connection IDs after 3 +PTO, even if the peer has not retired them with RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID yet. The +3-PTO timer starts on acknowledgement of the packet containing the +NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame. Continued use of the retired connection IDs after this +point will likely result in a stateless reset being sent. + +The Retire Prior To field MUST be less than or equal to the Sequence Number +field. Values greater than the Sequence Number MUST be treated as a connection +error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION. + +The sender cannot reduce the value of the Retire Prior To field in subsequent +NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames. That is, once a sender indicates a Retire Prior To +value, it MAY indicate a smaller value, but it has no effect. A receiver MUST +ignore any Retire Prior To fields that do not increase. Sounds good. A slight rewording perhaps: ``` Once a sender indicates a Retire Prior To value, smaller values sent in subsequent NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames have no effect. A receiver MUST ignore any Retire Prior To fields that do not increase the largest received Retire Prior To value. ``` > @@ -4984,6 +5002,12 @@ Sequence Number: : The sequence number assigned to the connection ID by the sender. See {{issue-cid}}. +Retire Prior To: + +: A variable-length integer specifying the limit, for which all connection IDs Editorial nit ```suggestion : A variable-length integer specifying the limit for which all connection IDs ``` > @@ -994,6 +994,22 @@ packets sent from only one local address. An endpoint that migrates away from a local address SHOULD retire all connection IDs used on that address once it no longer plans to use that address. +An endpoint can request that its peer retire connection IDs by sending a +NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame with an increased Retire Prior To field. Upon receipt, +the peer SHOULD retire the corresponding connection IDs and send the +corresponding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame in a timely manner. Failing to do so +can cause packets to be delayed or lost and harm connection performance as the +original endpoint might not route those connection IDs optimally after some +delay. + +The sender of the Retire Prior To field MUST keep track of the connection IDs it +wishes to retire until it has received a corresponding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID +frame, with one exception: if the sender of the Retire Prior To field has used +distinct stateless reset tokens for all of their issued connection IDs, and 3 +times the PTO has elapsed since it received an acknowledgment for its Retire +Prior To field, then it MAY lose track of that connection ID, and respond to +packets with that connection ID with the corresponding stateless reset token. I would still prefer to avoid tracking ACKs of packets, but if we're going to do it, then can we condense this down into a sentence or two? Something along the lines of: ``` An endpoint MAY discard a connection ID for which retirement has been requested once an interval of not less than 3 PTO has elapsed since an ack is received for the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame requesting that retirement. Subsequent incoming packets using that connection ID will elicit a response with the corresponding stateless reset token. ``` This depends on preventing reuse of SRTs, but I think that's a good thing to do anyways. > @@ -994,6 +994,22 @@ packets sent from only one local address. An endpoint that migrates away from a local address SHOULD retire all connection IDs used on that address once it no longer plans to use that address. +An endpoint can request that its peer retire connection IDs by sending a +NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame with an increased Retire Prior To field. Upon receipt, +the peer SHOULD retire the corresponding connection IDs and send the +corresponding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame in a timely manner. Failing to do so +can cause packets to be delayed or lost and harm connection performance as the +original endpoint might not route those connection IDs optimally after some +delay. + +The sender of the Retire Prior To field MUST keep track of the connection IDs it +wishes to retire until it has received a corresponding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID +frame, with one exception: if the sender of the Retire Prior To field has used +distinct stateless reset tokens for all of their issued connection IDs, and 3 +times the PTO has elapsed since it received an acknowledgment for its Retire +Prior To field, then it MAY lose track of that connection ID, and respond to +packets with that connection ID with the corresponding stateless reset token. 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@erickinnear requested changes on this pull request.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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> @@ -994,6 +994,22 @@ packets sent from onl=
y one local address.  An endpoint that migrates away from a=0D
 local address SHOULD retire all connection IDs used on that address once=
 it no=0D
 longer plans to use that address.=0D
 =0D
+An endpoint can request that its peer retire connection IDs by sending a=
=0D
+NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame with an increased Retire Prior To field.  Upon r=
eceipt,=0D
=0D

For readability, I might make a few editorial changes to this paragrap= h:

=0D 
The issuer of a connection ID can request that its peer retire=
 that =0D
connection ID by sending a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame with a =0D
non-zero Retire Prior To field.=0D
=0D 
Upon receipt of such a frame, an endpoint SHOULD retire active=
 connection IDs =0D
with sequence numbers lower than that specified in the Retire Prior To fi=
eld =0D
by sending a RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame for each retired connection ID =0D=

in a timely manner.=0D
=0D 
Failure to retire connection IDs in a timely manner when reque=
sted can =0D
harm connection performance by causing packets to be delayed or lost, =0D=

since the issuer of the connection IDs might no longer have the ability =0D=

to route packets using those connection IDs correctly.=0D
=0D

Minor, but this also helps to align with the language here -- referrin= g to "issuers" of connection IDs, and behavior specific to each endpoint,= etc.

=0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

=0D 
> @@ -5018,6 +5042,28 @@ sequence number, or=
 if a sequence number is used for different connection=0D
 IDs, the endpoint MAY treat that receipt as a connection error of type=0D=

 PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.=0D
 =0D
+The Retire Prior To field is a request for the peer to retire all connec=
tion IDs=0D
+with a sequence number less than the specified value.  This includes the=
 initial=0D
+and preferred_address transport parameter connection IDs.  The peer SHOU=
LD=0D
+retire the corresponding connection IDs and send the corresponding=0D
+RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame in a timely manner=0D
+=0D
+The sender of the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame MAY remove the connection IDs =
after 3=0D
+PTO, even if the peer has not retired them with RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID yet=
.  The=0D
+3-PTO timer starts on acknowledgement of the packet containing the=0D
+NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame.  Continued use of the retired connection IDs af=
ter this=0D
+point will likely result in a stateless reset being sent.=0D
=0D

This is slightly conflicting with the text above -- do we really want = to have the same (but not quite) text in two places vs. just keeping it a= bove and describing the field down here?
=0D We could just remove this paragraph.

=0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

=0D 
> +RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame in a timely ma=
nner=0D
+=0D
+The sender of the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame MAY remove the connection IDs =
after 3=0D
+PTO, even if the peer has not retired them with RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID yet=
.  The=0D
+3-PTO timer starts on acknowledgement of the packet containing the=0D
+NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame.  Continued use of the retired connection IDs af=
ter this=0D
+point will likely result in a stateless reset being sent.=0D
+=0D
+The Retire Prior To field MUST be less than or equal to the Sequence Num=
ber=0D
+field.  Values greater than the Sequence Number MUST be treated as a con=
nection=0D
+error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.=0D
+=0D
+The sender cannot reduce the value of the Retire Prior To field in subse=
quent=0D
+NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames.  That is, once a sender indicates a Retire Pri=
or To=0D
+value, it MAY indicate a smaller value, but it has no effect.  A receive=
r MUST=0D
+ignore any Retire Prior To fields that do not increase.=0D
=0D

Sounds good. A slight rewording perhaps:

=0D 
Once a sender indicates a Retire Prior To value, smaller value=
s sent =0D
in subsequent NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames have no effect. A receiver =0D
MUST ignore any Retire Prior To fields that do not increase the largest =0D=

received Retire Prior To value.=0D
=0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

=0D 
> @@ -4984,6 +5002,12 @@ Sequence Number:=0D=

 : The sequence number assigned to the connection ID by the sender.  See=0D=

   {{issue-cid}}.=0D
 =0D
+Retire Prior To:=0D
+=0D
+: A variable-length integer specifying the limit, for which all connecti=
on IDs=0D
=0D

Editorial nit

=0D =E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D 
-: A variable-length integer specifying the li=
mit, for which all connection IDs=0D
+: A variable-length integer specifying the limit for which all connectio=
n IDs=0D
=0D =0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

=0D 
> @@ -994,6 +994,22 @@ packets sent from onl=
y one local address.  An endpoint that migrates away from a=0D
 local address SHOULD retire all connection IDs used on that address once=
 it no=0D
 longer plans to use that address.=0D
 =0D
+An endpoint can request that its peer retire connection IDs by sending a=
=0D
+NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame with an increased Retire Prior To field.  Upon r=
eceipt,=0D
+the peer SHOULD retire the corresponding connection IDs and send the=0D
+corresponding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame in a timely manner.  Failing to=
 do so=0D
+can cause packets to be delayed or lost and harm connection performance =
as the=0D
+original endpoint might not route those connection IDs optimally after s=
ome=0D
+delay.=0D
+=0D
+The sender of the Retire Prior To field MUST keep track of the connectio=
n IDs it=0D
+wishes to retire until it has received a corresponding RETIRE_CONNECTION=
_ID=0D
+frame, with one exception: if the sender of the Retire Prior To field ha=
s used=0D
+distinct stateless reset tokens for all of their issued connection IDs, =
and 3=0D
+times the PTO has elapsed since it received an acknowledgment for its Re=
tire=0D
+Prior To field, then it MAY lose track of that connection ID, and respon=
d to=0D
+packets with that connection ID with the corresponding stateless reset t=
oken.=0D
=0D

I would still prefer to avoid tracking ACKs of packets, but if we're g= oing to do it, then can we condense this down into a sentence or two?

= =0D

Something along the lines of:

=0D 
An endpoint MAY discard a connection ID for which retirement h=
as been requested =0D
once an interval of not less than 3 PTO has elapsed since an ack is recei=
ved for =0D
the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame requesting that retirement. Subsequent incomi=
ng =0D
packets using that connection ID will elicit a response with the =0D
corresponding stateless reset token.=0D
=0D

This depends on preventing reuse of SRTs, but I think that's a good th= ing to do anyways.

=0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

=0D 
> @@ -994,6 +994,22 @@ packets sent from onl=
y one local address.  An endpoint that migrates away from a=0D
 local address SHOULD retire all connection IDs used on that address once=
 it no=0D
 longer plans to use that address.=0D
 =0D
+An endpoint can request that its peer retire connection IDs by sending a=
=0D
+NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame with an increased Retire Prior To field.  Upon r=
eceipt,=0D
+the peer SHOULD retire the corresponding connection IDs and send the=0D
+corresponding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame in a timely manner.  Failing to=
 do so=0D
+can cause packets to be delayed or lost and harm connection performance =
as the=0D
+original endpoint might not route those connection IDs optimally after s=
ome=0D
+delay.=0D
+=0D
+The sender of the Retire Prior To field MUST keep track of the connectio=
n IDs it=0D
+wishes to retire until it has received a corresponding RETIRE_CONNECTION=
_ID=0D
+frame, with one exception: if the sender of the Retire Prior To field ha=
s used=0D
+distinct stateless reset tokens for all of their issued connection IDs, =
and 3=0D
+times the PTO has elapsed since it received an acknowledgment for its Re=
tire=0D
+Prior To field, then it MAY lose track of that connection ID, and respon=
d to=0D
+packets with that connection ID with the corresponding stateless reset t=
oken.=0D
=0D

Also noting here that we still need some text about requiring that the= y be replaced.

=0D =0D

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Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2019 20:27:09 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: a00c361a24493be732eeda5249359dc98197e2fd https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a00c361a24493be732eeda5249359dc98197e2fd Author: Daan De Meyer Date: 2019-05-16 (Thu, 16 May 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- Specify error on receipt a DATA frame before a HEADERS frame on a request stream. Commit: cdd2c2557a93b8620ddeb4e3a010b10e41200354 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/cdd2c2557a93b8620ddeb4e3a010b10e41200354 Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2019-05-16 (Thu, 16 May 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- Move to Message Exchange section Commit: bda617368d0d48f904263ed70bfc24a601262162 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/bda617368d0d48f904263ed70bfc24a601262162 Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2019-05-20 (Mon, 20 May 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-http.md Co-Authored-By: Lucas Pardue Commit: aa663e687b176d064dc6f5df61b3477ec23948fb https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/aa663e687b176d064dc6f5df61b3477ec23948fb Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2019-06-12 (Wed, 12 Jun 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- Jana's suggestions Commit: b0b447899546791d9454eb6fd616695b307e0840 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b0b447899546791d9454eb6fd616695b307e0840 Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2019-06-12 (Wed, 12 Jun 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #2715 from quicwg/DaanDeMeyer-specify-data-before-headers-error Specify error for a DATA frame before any HEADERS frames Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/04ff063f17a2...b0b447899546 From nobody Wed Jun 12 13:27:16 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B1B21200EC for ; 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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nibanks commented on this pull request. > @@ -994,6 +994,22 @@ packets sent from only one local address. An endpoint that migrates away from a local address SHOULD retire all connection IDs used on that address once it no longer plans to use that address. +An endpoint can request that its peer retire connection IDs by sending a +NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame with an increased Retire Prior To field. Upon receipt, +the peer SHOULD retire the corresponding connection IDs and send the +corresponding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame in a timely manner. Failing to do so +can cause packets to be delayed or lost and harm connection performance as the +original endpoint might not route those connection IDs optimally after some +delay. + +The sender of the Retire Prior To field MUST keep track of the connection IDs it +wishes to retire until it has received a corresponding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID +frame, with one exception: if the sender of the Retire Prior To field has used +distinct stateless reset tokens for all of their issued connection IDs, and 3 +times the PTO has elapsed since it received an acknowledgment for its Retire +Prior To field, then it MAY lose track of that connection ID, and respond to +packets with that connection ID with the corresponding stateless reset token. @erickinnear can you elaborate on this? We already have the requirement that `Retire Prior To` is <= than `Sequence Number` so it cannot retire all CIDs. I'm not sure if we can require replacement of ALL previously existing CIDs. > @@ -5018,6 +5042,28 @@ sequence number, or if a sequence number is used for different connection IDs, the endpoint MAY treat that receipt as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION. +The Retire Prior To field is a request for the peer to retire all connection IDs +with a sequence number less than the specified value. This includes the initial +and preferred_address transport parameter connection IDs. The peer SHOULD +retire the corresponding connection IDs and send the corresponding +RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame in a timely manner + +The sender of the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame MAY remove the connection IDs after 3 +PTO, even if the peer has not retired them with RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID yet. The +3-PTO timer starts on acknowledgement of the packet containing the +NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame. Continued use of the retired connection IDs after this +point will likely result in a stateless reset being sent. I'm fine with removing it if you feel having it above is enough. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2769#discussion_r293104150 ----==_mimepart_5d016167d45a9_7b1a3fdd6c2cd95c1428f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@nibanks commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -994,6 +994,22 @@ packets sent from only one local address.  An endpoint that migrates away from a
 local address SHOULD retire all connection IDs used on that address once it no
 longer plans to use that address.
 
+An endpoint can request that its peer retire connection IDs by sending a
+NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame with an increased Retire Prior To field.  Upon receipt,
+the peer SHOULD retire the corresponding connection IDs and send the
+corresponding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame in a timely manner.  Failing to do so
+can cause packets to be delayed or lost and harm connection performance as the
+original endpoint might not route those connection IDs optimally after some
+delay.
+
+The sender of the Retire Prior To field MUST keep track of the connection IDs it
+wishes to retire until it has received a corresponding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID
+frame, with one exception: if the sender of the Retire Prior To field has used
+distinct stateless reset tokens for all of their issued connection IDs, and 3
+times the PTO has elapsed since it received an acknowledgment for its Retire
+Prior To field, then it MAY lose track of that connection ID, and respond to
+packets with that connection ID with the corresponding stateless reset token.

@erickinnear can you elaborate on this? We already have the requirement that Retire Prior To is <= than Sequence Number so it cannot retire all CIDs. I'm not sure if we can require replacement of ALL previously existing CIDs.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -5018,6 +5042,28 @@ sequence number, or if a sequence number is used for different connection
 IDs, the endpoint MAY treat that receipt as a connection error of type
 PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.
 
+The Retire Prior To field is a request for the peer to retire all connection IDs
+with a sequence number less than the specified value.  This includes the initial
+and preferred_address transport parameter connection IDs.  The peer SHOULD
+retire the corresponding connection IDs and send the corresponding
+RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame in a timely manner
+
+The sender of the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame MAY remove the connection IDs after 3
+PTO, even if the peer has not retired them with RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID yet.  The
+3-PTO timer starts on acknowledgement of the packet containing the
+NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame.  Continued use of the retired connection IDs after this
+point will likely result in a stateless reset being sent.

I'm fine with removing it if you feel having it above is enough.

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----==_mimepart_5d0162ae35ca1_33f3fcb54ccd96821094c-- From nobody Wed Jun 12 13:39:15 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B7912017F for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 13:39:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7wLmykWUoexl for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 13:39:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-17.smtp.github.com (out-17.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EF04512017E for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 13:39:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2019 13:39:00 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560371940; bh=9mfw2UYcu+FRfSTotHAnCvKWgBiJFdkG5a9fmZWH2UI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=CFFbKKBFVqkR/G/aM6rMGGT9oysKyitGs28ldzZZFN+P2hPuZLQl0LudDQWO4BJNE uPLzaEjxQnz5SjKZXqmwu3N5BS4/V6unWjIb2kk5wNFWOLVM6L87Ipb7wuh5B1GO5G ISDiGEvCGhcdxZVyenwVdg54NmoVHuFtXl7emf2o= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Request to Retire Locally Issued CIDs (#2769) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d0162e436b8e_66573ff970ecd96c202955"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2019 20:39:14 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d0162e436b8e_66573ff970ecd96c202955 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ianswett commented on this pull request. > @@ -994,6 +994,22 @@ packets sent from only one local address. An endpoint that migrates away from a local address SHOULD retire all connection IDs used on that address once it no longer plans to use that address. +An endpoint can request that its peer retire connection IDs by sending a +NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame with an increased Retire Prior To field. Upon receipt, +the peer SHOULD retire the corresponding connection IDs and send the +corresponding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame in a timely manner. Failing to do so +can cause packets to be delayed or lost and harm connection performance as the +original endpoint might not route those connection IDs optimally after some +delay. + +The sender of the Retire Prior To field MUST keep track of the connection IDs it +wishes to retire until it has received a corresponding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID +frame, with one exception: if the sender of the Retire Prior To field has used +distinct stateless reset tokens for all of their issued connection IDs, and 3 +times the PTO has elapsed since it received an acknowledgment for its Retire +Prior To field, then it MAY lose track of that connection ID, and respond to +packets with that connection ID with the corresponding stateless reset token. There's no requirement to supply as many as the peer wants, so there can't be a requirement to replace all it wants or as many as are retired either. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2769#discussion_r293107210 ----==_mimepart_5d0162e436b8e_66573ff970ecd96c202955 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@ianswett commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -994,6 +994,22 @@ packets sent from only one local address.  An endpoint that migrates away from a
 local address SHOULD retire all connection IDs used on that address once it no
 longer plans to use that address.
 
+An endpoint can request that its peer retire connection IDs by sending a
+NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame with an increased Retire Prior To field.  Upon receipt,
+the peer SHOULD retire the corresponding connection IDs and send the
+corresponding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame in a timely manner.  Failing to do so
+can cause packets to be delayed or lost and harm connection performance as the
+original endpoint might not route those connection IDs optimally after some
+delay.
+
+The sender of the Retire Prior To field MUST keep track of the connection IDs it
+wishes to retire until it has received a corresponding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID
+frame, with one exception: if the sender of the Retire Prior To field has used
+distinct stateless reset tokens for all of their issued connection IDs, and 3
+times the PTO has elapsed since it received an acknowledgment for its Retire
+Prior To field, then it MAY lose track of that connection ID, and respond to
+packets with that connection ID with the corresponding stateless reset token.

There's no requirement to supply as many as the peer wants, so there can't be a requirement to replace all it wants or as many as are retired either.

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@erickinnear commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -994,6 +994,22 @@ packets sent from only one local address.  An endpoint that migrates away from a
 local address SHOULD retire all connection IDs used on that address once it no
 longer plans to use that address.
 
+An endpoint can request that its peer retire connection IDs by sending a
+NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame with an increased Retire Prior To field.  Upon receipt,
+the peer SHOULD retire the corresponding connection IDs and send the
+corresponding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame in a timely manner.  Failing to do so
+can cause packets to be delayed or lost and harm connection performance as the
+original endpoint might not route those connection IDs optimally after some
+delay.
+
+The sender of the Retire Prior To field MUST keep track of the connection IDs it
+wishes to retire until it has received a corresponding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID
+frame, with one exception: if the sender of the Retire Prior To field has used
+distinct stateless reset tokens for all of their issued connection IDs, and 3
+times the PTO has elapsed since it received an acknowledgment for its Retire
+Prior To field, then it MAY lose track of that connection ID, and respond to
+packets with that connection ID with the corresponding stateless reset token.

We had previously discussed introducing such a requirement, but I think we might already be covered here, since we're using the existing RETIRE_CID frame for the retirement, by the "SHOULD replace when retired" that's over in that part of the text.

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An endpoint that migrates away from a local address SHOULD retire all connection IDs used on that address once it no longer plans to use that address. +An endpoint can request that its peer retire connection IDs by sending a +NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame with an increased Retire Prior To field. Upon receipt, +the peer SHOULD retire the corresponding connection IDs and send the +corresponding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame in a timely manner. Failing to do so +can cause packets to be delayed or lost and harm connection performance as the +original endpoint might not route those connection IDs optimally after some +delay. + +The sender of the Retire Prior To field MUST keep track of the connection IDs it +wishes to retire until it has received a corresponding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID +frame, with one exception: if the sender of the Retire Prior To field has used +distinct stateless reset tokens for all of their issued connection IDs, and 3 +times the PTO has elapsed since it received an acknowledgment for its Retire +Prior To field, then it MAY lose track of that connection ID, and respond to +packets with that connection ID with the corresponding stateless reset token. (So you have 3 that get retired, for each that you retire, you get back a NEW_CID with the same RetirePriorTo as the original one) -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -994,6 +994,22 @@ packets sent from only one local address.  An endpoint that migrates away from a
 local address SHOULD retire all connection IDs used on that address once it no
 longer plans to use that address.
 
+An endpoint can request that its peer retire connection IDs by sending a
+NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame with an increased Retire Prior To field.  Upon receipt,
+the peer SHOULD retire the corresponding connection IDs and send the
+corresponding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame in a timely manner.  Failing to do so
+can cause packets to be delayed or lost and harm connection performance as the
+original endpoint might not route those connection IDs optimally after some
+delay.
+
+The sender of the Retire Prior To field MUST keep track of the connection IDs it
+wishes to retire until it has received a corresponding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID
+frame, with one exception: if the sender of the Retire Prior To field has used
+distinct stateless reset tokens for all of their issued connection IDs, and 3
+times the PTO has elapsed since it received an acknowledgment for its Retire
+Prior To field, then it MAY lose track of that connection ID, and respond to
+packets with that connection ID with the corresponding stateless reset token.

(So you have 3 that get retired, for each that you retire, you get back a NEW_CID with the same RetirePriorTo as the original one)

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[ci skip] From nobody Wed Jun 12 13:53:45 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 692E212014E for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 13:53:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.008 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.008 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id x7aWXBP0Hcvs for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 13:53:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F24D1200F8 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 13:53:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2019 13:53:40 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560372820; bh=FzoYX8pjxyET4M7ZMRYVYJrEp3JLBzv3gucrksT4zc4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=PIwHsy8wG7JUgUS3NFtbKQQJIKPyYjFp58Hs6m7vbR8Z7kms0iuKqdJgB05DFAYxB P4ubK90+z8PX3o8Pn6r0zJ4ridQkHGlIKJtKx1xSl33akaVXrPmy5JxwIHImgQYRBo MHqEBcknwepzzwOvFCkHz5U6Jso3l5e/QdxP1nwU= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Discuss max-header-list-size from the other side (#2774) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d016654c8e15_77f63fc11eacd964423ed"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2019 20:53:44 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d016654c8e15_77f63fc11eacd964423ed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ianswett commented on this pull request. > -including the length of the name and value in bytes plus an overhead of 32 bytes -for each header field. +An HTTP/3 implementation MAY impose a limit on the maximum size of the message +header it will accept on an individual HTTP message. A server that receives a +larger header field list than it is willing to handle can send an HTTP 431 +(Request Header Fields Too Large) status code {{?RFC6585}}. A client can +discard responses that it cannot process. The size of a header field list is +calculated based on the uncompressed size of header fields, including the length +of the name and value in bytes plus an overhead of 32 bytes for each header +field. + +If an implementation wishes to advise its peer of this limit, it can be conveyed +as a number of bytes in the `SETTINGS_MAX_HEADER_LIST_SIZE` parameter. An +implementation which has received this parameter SHOULD NOT send an HTTP message +header which exceeds the indicated size, as this will likely produce an error +and could disrupt the entire connection if the peer reacts negatively. However, nit: reacts negatively is a bit vague. How about "could disrupt other outstanding requests if the peer chooses to close the connection in response." -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2774#pullrequestreview-249012461 ----==_mimepart_5d016654c8e15_77f63fc11eacd964423ed Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@ianswett commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> -including the length of the name and value in bytes plus an overhead of 32 bytes
-for each header field.
+An HTTP/3 implementation MAY impose a limit on the maximum size of the message
+header it will accept on an individual HTTP message.  A server that receives a
+larger header field list than it is willing to handle can send an HTTP 431
+(Request Header Fields Too Large) status code {{?RFC6585}}.  A client can
+discard responses that it cannot process.  The size of a header field list is
+calculated based on the uncompressed size of header fields, including the length
+of the name and value in bytes plus an overhead of 32 bytes for each header
+field.
+
+If an implementation wishes to advise its peer of this limit, it can be conveyed
+as a number of bytes in the `SETTINGS_MAX_HEADER_LIST_SIZE` parameter. An
+implementation which has received this parameter SHOULD NOT send an HTTP message
+header which exceeds the indicated size, as this will likely produce an error
+and could disrupt the entire connection if the peer reacts negatively.  However,

nit: reacts negatively is a bit vague. How about "could disrupt other outstanding requests if the peer chooses to close the connection in response."

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -994,6 +994,22 @@ packets sent from only one local address.  An endpoint that migrates away from a
 local address SHOULD retire all connection IDs used on that address once it no
 longer plans to use that address.
 
+An endpoint can request that its peer retire connection IDs by sending a
+NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame with an increased Retire Prior To field.  Upon receipt,
+the peer SHOULD retire the corresponding connection IDs and send the
+corresponding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame in a timely manner.  Failing to do so
+can cause packets to be delayed or lost and harm connection performance as the
+original endpoint might not route those connection IDs optimally after some
+delay.
+
+The sender of the Retire Prior To field MUST keep track of the connection IDs it

It's currently a MUST to persist all the CIDs with the same SRT. The way to be compliant would be to advance RPT enough to expire all the CIDs, even if there are some in the middle that could otherwise be kept.

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  • 0fd2717 PT MUST NOT be sent to 11

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1155,22 +1151,25 @@ The PRIORITY frame payload has the following fields:
 
   PT (Prioritized Element Type):
   : A two-bit field indicating the type of element being prioritized (see
-    {{prioritized-element-types}}). When sent on a request stream, this MUST be
-    set to `11`.  When sent on the control stream, this MUST NOT be set to `11`.

Makes sense. Done in 0fd2717.

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As I've stated elsewhere, I'm not a fan of this because I'd like placeholders to be optional and be able to enforce this, in an effort to keep H3 as close to H2 codewise.

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As I've stated elsewhere, I'm not a fan of this because I'd like placeholders to be optional and be able to enforce this, in an effort to keep H3 as close to H2 codewise.

Could you please elaborate a bit more? While I can see why you argue for "placeholders to be optional and be able to enforce this," I do not see why doing so makes H2 and H3 closer.

H2 allows client to create placeholders without regard to what server actually does, and this is about bringing back that behavior.

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----==_mimepart_5d01729f9784d_17c53ff83eccd9601174dd-- From nobody Wed Jun 12 14:48:57 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79EDB1200D7 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 14:48:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IDvMqpUoG1bi for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 14:48:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AB67312019C for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 14:39:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2019 14:39:39 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560375579; bh=sr8xqFCe9Uwka32ZjDFRWYuyXQikDJKp51JuCdZRFAQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Gtg3OGbGiM5okKDtouXBm4gZi86WCPopI4Ox9bgF6TibWG4+g8OwpTNCwHoW/1dAr d5eAI3Qu1VhWlmO4RsZmBLGiiw9YZfRxESNRBERvFxCI4WFTThW1jwfph6CBJx068k IpAZlwdY1tBuWLTEGlNgZ2CWWsZNhZ1Wb/Y67YmY= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Disallow reuse of stateless reset tokens (#2785) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d01711bd9b9c_125c3f95b16cd96019540"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2019 21:48:56 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d01711bd9b9c_125c3f95b16cd96019540 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Apologies for not raising this on #2732, I had not thought about the problem at that time. It's my understanding that #2769 _is_ introducing this issue. There is no problem in the current design, because receiving a packet with an outdated CID is not expected to cause a stateless reset. Regarding why you'd want to reuse a SRT, the simple reason is because you do not need to create different SRTs for every Connection ID. A QUIC stack that generates a CID by a construction like `AES_ECB(cid_key, conn_id || path_index)`1 can use `HMAC(srt_key, conn_id)` as a construction for generating SRT. For QUIC stacks that aren't interested in retiring CIDs (which seems to be the majority for me), this construction makes sense. I think my preference would be to retain the design; it's just about adding a warning when you want to retire a CID. 1: path_index is a sequence number of path for each connection -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2785#issuecomment-501465041 ----==_mimepart_5d01711bd9b9c_125c3f95b16cd96019540 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Apologies for not raising this on #2732, I had not thought about the problem at that time.

It's my understanding that #2769 is introducing this issue. There is no problem in the current design, because receiving a packet with an outdated CID is not expected to cause a stateless reset.

Regarding why you'd want to reuse a SRT, the simple reason is because you do not need to create different SRTs for every Connection ID.

A QUIC stack that generates a CID by a construction like AES_ECB(cid_key, conn_id || path_index)1 can use HMAC(srt_key, conn_id) as a construction for generating SRT.

For QUIC stacks that aren't interested in retiring CIDs (which seems to be the majority for me), this construction makes sense. I think my preference would be to retain the design; it's just about adding a warning when you want to retire a CID.

1: path_index is a sequence number of path for each connection

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> @@ -1335,8 +1343,8 @@ The following settings are defined in HTTP/3:
   : The default value is unlimited.  See {{header-formatting}} for usage.
 
   SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS (0x9):
-  : The default value is 0.  However, this value SHOULD be set to a non-zero
-    value by servers.  See {{placeholders}} for usage.
+  : The default value is 0.  However, servers SHOULD set this value to 32 or

I also suggested 32 because the "power of two" feeling. Otoh, I was thinking about Patrick Meenan's setup, which requires 4 placeholders per priority level in the current scheme, allowing for 8 priority levels if the minimum number of placeholders is 32. 8 is more than e.g., the 5 chrome is using at the moment, but seems like a good number (see also SPDY priority levels).

I just want to prevent us setting this to a too low a number (e.g., 10), since that would counteract the purpose of setting a lower bound imo.

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----==_mimepart_5d0175b5ba979_71783fa9b90cd9682153cb-- From nobody Wed Jun 12 15:20:57 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF3591200A1 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 15:20:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.008 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.008 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lpzZcbEjmYMf for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 15:20:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D20D6120045 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 15:20:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2019 15:20:52 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560378052; bh=8845/WpH/tx6frV+o89TxTUp6fjqsexUlOgdSGI/VT4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=noAHYueJZoVOgBSrLcGoVkJ86Fh80QHA1Iq2gZSfB2LMAcZzg6ZrrWEkXhGACR8t9 Z4FDIw9HjyZkJhHCWUROZ7emztpUCzd7TX2ccy8TEOlqc5Jh9aBkOvq140XL64RdPY PvXkJndaIywVS0yGnmdjh83wndgh7yucTNQUA2Io= From: David Schinazi Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Disallow reuse of stateless reset tokens (#2785) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d017ac48aec2_60aa3fa7fc6cd96c27455e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: DavidSchinazi X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2019 22:20:56 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d017ac48aec2_60aa3fa7fc6cd96c27455e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't think #2769 introduces this issue. It does make it worse but the issue was already present. It's reasonable for a server implementation to drop a CID from their state when the client retires it. There are two options to guarantee safety: 1. make sure each CID has a distinct SRT 2. make sure once a CID is sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID it always routes back to this connection I think (1) is simpler and giving implementations two options here not only makes the spec more complicated, but can also lead to accidental vulnerabilities. I think it would be safer for the implementations you mention to use `HMAC(srt_key, conn_id || path_index)` to generate their SRT. That also makes it simpler to generate the SRT from the cleartext CID. In general, it's been this spec philosophy to add constraints that can be verified by the peer whenever possible. Forcing distinct CIDs ensures verifiable security whereas requiring that CIDs get routed appropriately for the duration of the connection is not enforceable and therefore easier to get wrong. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2785#issuecomment-501475877 ----==_mimepart_5d017ac48aec2_60aa3fa7fc6cd96c27455e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I don't think #2769 introduces this issue. It does make it worse but the issue was already present. It's reasonable for a server implementation to drop a CID from their state when the client retires it.

There are two options to guarantee safety:

  1. make sure each CID has a distinct SRT
  2. make sure once a CID is sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID it always routes back to this connection

I think (1) is simpler and giving implementations two options here not only makes the spec more complicated, but can also lead to accidental vulnerabilities.

I think it would be safer for the implementations you mention to use HMAC(srt_key, conn_id || path_index) to generate their SRT. That also makes it simpler to generate the SRT from the cleartext CID.

In general, it's been this spec philosophy to add constraints that can be verified by the peer whenever possible. Forcing distinct CIDs ensures verifiable security whereas requiring that CIDs get routed appropriately for the duration of the connection is not enforceable and therefore easier to get wrong.

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Looking good, I think we're getting there!

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Essentially, the current text says that you can't actually forget a retired CID until all CIDs with the same SRT have been retired. At that point and not before, you can forget all of them at once. #2769 doesn't change this at all -- doesn't even really make it worse.

That PR provides a mechanism for asking a client to retire a certain set of CIDs; if the set only partially overlaps with the set of CIDs covered by an SRT, that mechanism is not terribly useful because you can't actually forget all the CIDs you asked the peer to retire. It could be very useful to ask the peer to retire the last CID in one of these groups because you've got 200 of them you'd really like to clear out.

But that doesn't change the core fact: You can't actually forget a retired CID until all CIDs with the same SRT have been retired. If each SRT maps uniquely to a CID, this is a simple requirement to satisfy. If you choose to do something else, that's your problem.

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I think what @MikeBishop says is correct.

OTOH, I now think that forbidding reuse of SRT might help the receiver of the stateless resets.

Without the prohibition, when retiring a CID, an endpoint needs to consult other SRTs that have been issued for the same connection to see if it can unregister the SRT corresponding to the CID being retired, or use a ref-counted hashmap for maintaining the mapping from SRTs to connections.

We might argue that this requirement is easy to miss, and hard to test.

Having the prohibition removes this requirement and therefore can be considered as a simplification.

Contrary to that, we might argue that allowing the reuse of SRT has marginal benefit. It is trivial to construct different SRT for each CID, as pointed out by @DavidSchinazi.

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@MikeBishop's analysis is entirely correct.

I don't think that we should put in rules to prevent self-harm through idiocy. And this is definitely a case of that. An endpoint that forgets a CID when the associated SRT is active only hurts themselves.

The text is sufficient as it stands. A prohibition won't prevent implementations from doing dangerous things. As it stands, you need to take extraordinary steps to put yourself in position to mess this up. The construction @kazuho describes is a totally sensible one, but it is very hard to forget connection IDs with that scheme. More relevant to this, the SRT construction process described in the spec won't have this problem.

What exactly do you think this prohibition will achieve?

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@martinthomson approved this pull request.

Thanks for writing this up. It looks good.

Don't feel that you need to comply with the request below, but if you don't I'll feel obligated to do it myself...

In draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md:

> @@ -143,11 +143,13 @@ version-specific semantics are marked with an X.
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-|DCIL(4)|SCIL(4)|
+|    DCIL (8)   |

Maybe not for this PR, but something to consider...

"DCIL" was chosen to fit in the small space available in the diagram. The new field is a little wider and could fit DCID Len (8) comfortably.

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What exactly do you think this prohibition will achieve?

If there is a prohibition, an endpoint can remove the SRT of the CID being retired, without consulting the SRTs of other CIDs belonging to the same connection.

While incorrect in terms of current spec, such design works flawlessly with endpoints that issue different SRT for each CID. It seems that most implementations would issue different SRT for each CID. Then, there's chance that we might see stacks implementing this incorrect but simpler approach.

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----==_mimepart_5d01a09834a85_13793fb1b4ecd95c30905f-- From nobody Wed Jun 12 18:37:18 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 996CE120178 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 18:37:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Yxy2VlLAUe2g for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 18:37:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-10.smtp.github.com (out-10.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F0B96120018 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 18:37:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2019 18:37:13 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560389834; bh=3MxFqwncVmSizWjEOLwOk1jYlTlvCOnhAq66jmcg4RQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=jyC2Mc3X49NtdAWL+Afna1fuwmKCKEopRoKI089F1kuZ3kMkcFLVpG0t6EUSo+Hab 7+Sm375M/DVnub+buBiDpRrBmbVMfzCiC/CPCvr6xd8F5QD0W/LIEuvcMdWDMNY1s0 wraFaoYybAJ/pbhBAJX4KvDVvcu6IXzuLiDdDHUw= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Discuss max-header-list-size from the other side (#2774) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d01a8c9d5b39_1f5c3f94746cd96c238128"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2019 01:37:17 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d01a8c9d5b39_1f5c3f94746cd96c238128 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ianswett commented on this pull request. > -including the length of the name and value in bytes plus an overhead of 32 bytes -for each header field. +An HTTP/3 implementation MAY impose a limit on the maximum size of the message +header it will accept on an individual HTTP message. A server that receives a +larger header field list than it is willing to handle can send an HTTP 431 +(Request Header Fields Too Large) status code {{?RFC6585}}. A client can +discard responses that it cannot process. The size of a header field list is +calculated based on the uncompressed size of header fields, including the length +of the name and value in bytes plus an overhead of 32 bytes for each header +field. + +If an implementation wishes to advise its peer of this limit, it can be conveyed +as a number of bytes in the `SETTINGS_MAX_HEADER_LIST_SIZE` parameter. An +implementation which has received this parameter SHOULD NOT send an HTTP message +header which exceeds the indicated size, as this will likely produce an error +and could disrupt the entire connection if the peer reacts negatively. However, It's advisory, but I think the spirit is that eventually, this CID isn't going to route correctly. Every deployment has this property, it's just a matter of timeframe. So it is advisory. But in the same sense that GOAWAY indicates not to send new requests, this is saying "Please don't send any more packets with CIDs below this index, because it might not work." -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2774#discussion_r293177577 ----==_mimepart_5d01a8c9d5b39_1f5c3f94746cd96c238128 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> -including the length of the name and value in bytes plus an overhead of 32 bytes
-for each header field.
+An HTTP/3 implementation MAY impose a limit on the maximum size of the message
+header it will accept on an individual HTTP message.  A server that receives a
+larger header field list than it is willing to handle can send an HTTP 431
+(Request Header Fields Too Large) status code {{?RFC6585}}.  A client can
+discard responses that it cannot process.  The size of a header field list is
+calculated based on the uncompressed size of header fields, including the length
+of the name and value in bytes plus an overhead of 32 bytes for each header
+field.
+
+If an implementation wishes to advise its peer of this limit, it can be conveyed
+as a number of bytes in the `SETTINGS_MAX_HEADER_LIST_SIZE` parameter. An
+implementation which has received this parameter SHOULD NOT send an HTTP message
+header which exceeds the indicated size, as this will likely produce an error
+and could disrupt the entire connection if the peer reacts negatively.  However,

It's advisory, but I think the spirit is that eventually, this CID isn't going to route correctly. Every deployment has this property, it's just a matter of timeframe.

So it is advisory. But in the same sense that GOAWAY indicates not to send new requests, this is saying "Please don't send any more packets with CIDs below this index, because it might not work."

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I agree that we should remove the text that allows the reuse of SRTs f= rom the spec (In fact, last night I was planning to open exactly this iss= ue, and woke up this morning to see that @DavidSchinazi a= lready did so while I was asleep).

=0D

I don=E2=80=99t see any reason why you=E2=80=99d want to reuse a SRT i= n the first place - computing one HMAC shouldn=E2=80=99t be more expensiv= e than applying the packe protection to send a single packet. With regard= s to how you store connection IDS, this design is only simpler if you do = the wrong thing and don=E2=80=98t keep track of expired connection IDs th= at still have active SRTs. Doing it the right way will most likely result= in a more complex design than associating each CID with its own SRT.

= =0D

In short: it=E2=80=99s easy to mess up, and there=E2=80=99s little ben= efit, so let=E2=80=99s remove it.

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Fixes #2596

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As @huitema points out, the computational cost of using a multiplier is no worse than using an exponent, and I second @marten-seemann's comment that use of exponent is strictly worse than using a multiplier. I do not think there is a justifiable reason to choose _a_ (exponent). The network overhead of using no scaling factor would be 2 to 3 bytes per packet that contains an ACK, for the primary use-case of QUIC v1 traffic. This is because we can assume that connections between web browsers and servers would be in most cases greater than 16.383 milliseconds. Considering the effort we have spent in reducing the number of bytes being transmitted on the wire, I think it might make more sense to have a multiplier than removing the scaling factor. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Unsurprisingly, I prefer b (multiplication), and the reason is as follows.

As @huitema points out, the computational cost of using a multiplier is no worse than using an exponent, and I second @marten-seemann's comment that use of exponent is strictly worse than using a multiplier. I do not think there is a justifiable reason to choose a (exponent).

The network overhead of using no scaling factor would be 2 to 3 bytes per packet that contains an ACK, for the primary use-case of QUIC v1 traffic. This is because we can assume that connections between web browsers and servers would be in most cases greater than 16.383 milliseconds.

Considering the effort we have spent in reducing the number of bytes being transmitted on the wire, I think it might make more sense to have a multiplier than removing the scaling factor.

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@kazuho commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> -including the length of the name and value in bytes plus an overhead of 32 bytes
-for each header field.
+An HTTP/3 implementation MAY impose a limit on the maximum size of the message
+header it will accept on an individual HTTP message.  A server that receives a
+larger header field list than it is willing to handle can send an HTTP 431
+(Request Header Fields Too Large) status code {{?RFC6585}}.  A client can
+discard responses that it cannot process.  The size of a header field list is
+calculated based on the uncompressed size of header fields, including the length
+of the name and value in bytes plus an overhead of 32 bytes for each header
+field.
+
+If an implementation wishes to advise its peer of this limit, it can be conveyed
+as a number of bytes in the `SETTINGS_MAX_HEADER_LIST_SIZE` parameter. An
+implementation which has received this parameter SHOULD NOT send an HTTP message
+header which exceeds the indicated size, as this will likely produce an error
+and could disrupt the entire connection if the peer reacts negatively.  However,

@ianswett This issue is about an HTTP setting. Maybe you're comment is for one of the "Retire CID" issues of the transport?

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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> -including the length of the name and value in bytes plus an overhead of 32 bytes
-for each header field.
+An HTTP/3 implementation MAY impose a limit on the maximum size of the message
+header it will accept on an individual HTTP message.  A server that receives a
+larger header field list than it is willing to handle can send an HTTP 431
+(Request Header Fields Too Large) status code {{?RFC6585}}.  A client can
+discard responses that it cannot process.  The size of a header field list is
+calculated based on the uncompressed size of header fields, including the length
+of the name and value in bytes plus an overhead of 32 bytes for each header
+field.
+
+If an implementation wishes to advise its peer of this limit, it can be conveyed
+as a number of bytes in the `SETTINGS_MAX_HEADER_LIST_SIZE` parameter. An
+implementation which has received this parameter SHOULD NOT send an HTTP message
+header which exceeds the indicated size, as this will likely produce an error
+and could disrupt the entire connection if the peer reacts negatively.  However,

Yes, nevermind.

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----==_mimepart_5d01b5004dc04_69ad3f964f8cd960537573-- From nobody Wed Jun 12 19:42:44 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF8D1120178 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 19:42:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.008 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.008 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8EOqPv2TOc3B for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 19:42:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-15.smtp.github.com (out-15.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7AC61120177 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 19:42:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2019 19:42:39 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560393759; bh=3/cyPY8uaS5brTf56ZxxGgj6LBol/y3/rP9t0hDpdV0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=SG4SXbsTRiZw1povLQgXsYFHY6ttpeqR2oEKuGamD+uy+bSWtM3w/mdeIkF6lu2Se EabByvt+6WdkrlQYywAQP55vClVmi1XWg+HhspuAX9lhzb5hHuBcOCsNnnbDuWzVsz 6ow2uditqnCjND2ku/Pesk/I5gOU9wkl2zitBOZg= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/3 has less concurrency than HTTP/2 (#2787) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d01b81f94374_289f3fa5f7ecd95c60113c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2019 02:42:43 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d01b81f94374_289f3fa5f7ecd95c60113c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit At the moment, we state that "It is RECOMMENDED that initial_max_bidi_streams be no smaller than 100, so as to not unnecessarily limit parallelism." This means that there is a reduction in parallelism compared to HTTP/2 that allows 100 concurrent requests, due to the following reasons: 1. unlike HTTP/2, a QUIC server is likely to consider a stream to be existing until receiving an ACK for the stream-level FIN that it has sent 2. even after the stream state is discarded (when receiving an ACK for FIN), a server might not immediately send a MAX_STREAMS frame to indicate the client can open new streams IIUC, one of the primary reasons we want parallelism is to fulfill the bandwidth of a high latency connection even when the size of the HTTP responses are small2. The differences pointed out above means that in such a scenario (where the responses are small, e.g. 304), the concurrency could go down from 100 requests per RTT to 50, because the minimal latency of retiring a stream state changes from 1 RTT to 2 RTT (see point 1 above). I think we should provide some better guidance, assuming that we consider "100" that we have in HTTP/2 as a good advice. One way would be to change the recommended minimum of initial_max_bidi_streams to 200. The other way would be to recommend servers providing clients "window to issue 100 requests in parallel," without giving them concrete suggestion on how, because the way the QUIC servers retain stream-level states and how they send MAX_STREAMS can be different. 2: The other reason is to provide sufficient amount of window for prioritization. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2787 ----==_mimepart_5d01b81f94374_289f3fa5f7ecd95c60113c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

At the moment, we state that "It is RECOMMENDED that initial_max_bidi_streams be no smaller than 100, so as to not unnecessarily limit parallelism."

This means that there is a reduction in parallelism compared to HTTP/2 that allows 100 concurrent requests, due to the following reasons:

  1. unlike HTTP/2, a QUIC server is likely to consider a stream to be existing until receiving an ACK for the stream-level FIN that it has sent
  2. even after the stream state is discarded (when receiving an ACK for FIN), a server might not immediately send a MAX_STREAMS frame to indicate the client can open new streams

IIUC, one of the primary reasons we want parallelism is to fulfill the bandwidth of a high latency connection even when the size of the HTTP responses are small2.

The differences pointed out above means that in such a scenario (where the responses are small, e.g. 304), the concurrency could go down from 100 requests per RTT to 50, because the minimal latency of retiring a stream state changes from 1 RTT to 2 RTT (see point 1 above).

I think we should provide some better guidance, assuming that we consider "100" that we have in HTTP/2 as a good advice.

One way would be to change the recommended minimum of initial_max_bidi_streams to 200. The other way would be to recommend servers providing clients "window to issue 100 requests in parallel," without giving them concrete suggestion on how, because the way the QUIC servers retain stream-level states and how they send MAX_STREAMS can be different.

2: The other reason is to provide sufficient amount of window for prioritization.

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@kazuho commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1335,8 +1343,8 @@ The following settings are defined in HTTP/3:
   : The default value is unlimited.  See {{header-formatting}} for usage.
 
   SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS (0x9):
-  : The default value is 0.  However, this value SHOULD be set to a non-zero
-    value by servers.  See {{placeholders}} for usage.
+  : The default value is 0.  However, servers SHOULD set this value to 32 or

While I think it makes more sense to define a number that is defined in relation to the number of concurrent requests we suggest to support, I do not think that the current value of 100 is correct (see #2787).

Considering that, I am fine with seeing this PR merged with 32 being the advice, and revisiting the advisory value if necessary.

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----==_mimepart_5d01b9662758b_18d23f92754cd960881143-- From nobody Wed Jun 12 22:54:10 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35CE31201D2 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 22:54:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EvBbd7WyMwOb for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 22:54:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 53DC9120033 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 22:54:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2019 22:54:01 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560405241; bh=j6P5NLVvy69L3ooSnkwDIv0ItQEo8TiRUydM4VJn0V8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=pwt7OrCulcOM4PyG7QbU4jc2NKyzGCNdqapRdVJ/Qry6du+JJ0/yjeeZulWtdk7nY znLwyJ6GI0YQU3PnkK9obAyZkIuhcv9pFtY4mfAEgzYqddQ2LiM2gV4yB8BnQpYLR+ 3M4gWkVJEApqs4UbnDn1tFQuFkyRAQnXVpsXZA8k= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Consider making SETTINGS part of the control stream header (#2783) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d01e4f9d6b83_11b03ff5188cd960130482e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2019 05:54:05 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d01e4f9d6b83_11b03ff5188cd960130482e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think that Push Streams is a good argument for pushing this change, although I might argue the Push Streams header is not a length-value structure. I think I'd prefer reusing the type-length-value structure (i.e. frames) for sending SETTINGS rather than defining it's own length-value structure just for one purpose. (not that I care much, but just my two cents) -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2783#issuecomment-501559061 ----==_mimepart_5d01e4f9d6b83_11b03ff5188cd960130482e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I think that Push Streams is a good argument for pushing this change, although I might argue the Push Streams header is not a length-value structure.

I think I'd prefer reusing the type-length-value structure (i.e. frames) for sending SETTINGS rather than defining it's own length-value structure just for one purpose.

(not that I care much, but just my two cents)

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I'm not totally against a unique SRT per CID, but I am concerned about the static memory use of otherwise passive connections.

If a CID and SRT can be 255 bytes each (depending on where discussions go) that is half a kilobyte per CID, and there might be 8 of those, possibly more. That is 4K per connection even if you retire all active buffers because there isn't currently any traffic.

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----==_mimepart_5d01e58cad8c8_7a0b3f96fc2cd96883398e-- From nobody Wed Jun 12 23:12:37 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEBF212006E for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 23:12:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.391 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.391 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id o61FfUm9fapS for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 23:12:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0C8F212004C for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 23:12:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2019 23:12:32 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560406352; bh=mWL9uDit9396qJsr6nUDlcMGOepxc7Ohgs0+TEUk9AI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=T+8Ts5bHHahkoDZwRLcnewWhHq3JM84YnATcrR68NfWpzF2Wefj9As7vB6kB2sDKc 9CSX9rduS38k9yU3/PZNqBHVEGtbpmdJ9+P7jYJFgwjVCxGDLEHo8Wlk/3jtcYgOnp VtHM3k36T6gDuc6WB2SqDeNoJt+o8I0Rms1xjDp0= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove ack_delay_exponent TP (#2670) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d01e950b6630_7f153f82198cd964114187c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2019 06:12:36 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d01e950b6630_7f153f82198cd964114187c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Maybe it is worth saving those bytes. But another argument not prominent in the discussion is the risk of getting the scale wrong since it applies to all paths and might be hardcoded in implementations that do not adapt to different networking environments. This is why I think the fp16 approach is better (with overhead slightly above a multiplication), but I can see why people dislike a non-standard algorithm. Therefore the question is really if the bytes saved are worth the problems a bad scale might induce. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2670#issuecomment-501563239 ----==_mimepart_5d01e950b6630_7f153f82198cd964114187c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Maybe it is worth saving those bytes. But another argument not prominent in the discussion is the risk of getting the scale wrong since it applies to all paths and might be hardcoded in implementations that do not adapt to different networking environments. This is why I think the fp16 approach is better (with overhead slightly above a multiplication), but I can see why people dislike a non-standard algorithm.

Therefore the question is really if the bytes saved are worth the problems a bad scale might induce.

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I can in fact see a use case with much more than 200 concurrent requests, but then you would know that you need it, and a ramp up time might not be a big deal so the initial value is of less importance.

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Admittedly, I did not argue how appropriate it is to use initial value as a way of describing the expected parallelism. If we are to address that too, the suggestion would be more like the latter (i.e. "provide clients window to issue 100 requests in parallel").

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----==_mimepart_5d01ec4dee7fb_629d3f8a658cd96076222c-- From nobody Thu Jun 13 00:21:59 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC41E1202A5 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2019 00:21:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.008 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.008 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id X3-lZlV5D0b6 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2019 00:21:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-22.smtp.github.com (out-22.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.205]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D6F8112027E for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2019 00:21:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2019 00:21:46 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560410506; bh=RXvcN5o3DrA0nPAh2V+l3byMoqUJE0B+/XqJDccepFA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=oMeoZlK58NfAg+UaBj2NXVrDp8W7hmxWLh9bXkiFmXBDgJHOrgiCwnYhH3vIrQ7+8 eZxf6x/LyWvJx19VJAWd5pQIuAbcriQ59qF4th655/gcgR+NWWeUPY+JhSj9NgxJsf 4SQ6PY5Epqf05K+xiP+EpXsXXrUkQE/wzG7HiBsI= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clarify the side-effect of frequent key updates (#2788) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d01f98aae4b7_13493fb1b4ecd95c125643d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2019 07:21:55 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d01f98aae4b7_13493fb1b4ecd95c125643d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit After some discussion with @marten-seemann, I think that the following changes need to be made to the paragraph describing the side-effect of frequent key updates. * Removes "MAY limit the number of keys to one set for proceting packets"; it *is* limited to one elsewhere, I think. * Fix incorrect clarification; the side-effect of key updates before 3PTO is packet drops of all packets within that period, not just the ones being reordered. * Reroder the paragraphs so that the side effect is discussed after the recommendation to retain the old keys 3 PTO after a Key Update. The changes does not change the required behaviors or suggestions; therefore it's my view that this is an editorial PR. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2788 -- Commit Summary -- * Clarify the side-effect of frequent key updates. -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md (17) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2788.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2788.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2788 ----==_mimepart_5d01f98aae4b7_13493fb1b4ecd95c125643d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

After some discussion with @marten-seemann, I think that the following changes need to be made to the paragraph describing the side-effect of frequent key updates.

  • Removes "MAY limit the number of keys to one set for proceting packets"; it is limited to one elsewhere, I think.
  • Fix incorrect clarification; the side-effect of key updates before 3PTO is packet drops of all packets within that period, not just the ones being reordered.
  • Reroder the paragraphs so that the side effect is discussed after the recommendation to retain the old keys 3 PTO after a Key Update.

The changes does not change the required behaviors or suggestions; therefore it's my view that this is an editorial PR.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2788

Commit Summary

  • Clarify the side-effect of frequent key updates.

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----==_mimepart_5d01f98aae4b7_13493fb1b4ecd95c125643d-- From nobody Thu Jun 13 01:08:11 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2F391201BB for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2019 01:08:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id B-bobrkHdNMt for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2019 01:08:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 087531200F4 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2019 01:08:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2019 01:08:06 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560413286; bh=uvTf5cseVmNdNVC8RI0Ed/xSbti0Q4zjJ+69DtcO0Qc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=NhtFiKqwIwu1c4iqRjsfQOKS5/6ZKVartSJgcH/BWnYWSj/7AbawuGwkbGoiH41Vg cBc5bGiHVmEa73QIVHIvZq23+i1M7izNPDL/zd4ftNZq+H8c5mYK+28gX0f45C9piw 811Ryw4Idqr5hP/lETObqLzRC05KXWimd3JEh9hY= From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clarify the side-effect of frequent key updates (#2788) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d020466b52d0_78d83f96f0ecd9681971548"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2019 08:08:10 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d020466b52d0_78d83f96f0ecd9681971548 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I disagree that this is editorial an PR. As I understand, in the current text we're 1. Limiting the the frequency of key updates to avoid the deadlock in the case of frequent key updates (#2214). This is achieved by requiring a peer to not update keys to N+1 before receiving an acknowledgement for a packet sent at key phase N (which effectively limits key updates to no more than once per RTT). 1. For crypto hygienic reasons (and to limit memory consumption), we're only keeping old keys alive for a maximum of 3 PTOs, and dropping them afterwards. 1. If key updates are performed more frequently than once per 3 PTOs, endpoints MAY drop old keys sooner (again, in order to limit memory consumption). Note that this leads to (effective) packet loss if there's sufficient reordering of packets encrypted with the old keys. However, if there's no reordering, no packets are lost. This PR changes the text such that a peer could effectively refuse to update to the new keys for a period of 3 PTO, thereby inducing massive packet loss on all packets encrypted with the new key phase, even in the absence of packet reordering. In my opinion, this change is therefore not editorial, but a design change. Furthermore, I'm also not convinced that this is the right way to go. The current text has the nice property that there's a very clear definition when a key update is allowed: as soon as you receive an acknowledgment for the current key phase. According to this PR, this clear definition is replaced by saying that a subsequent key update shouldn't happen within 3 PTOs. The problem is that the PTO is a local value, and peers might disagree about the precise value at any given time. Therefore, there's no clear point in time when a key update could be performed safely (i.e. without risking that the peer refuses to update keys). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2788#issuecomment-501597224 ----==_mimepart_5d020466b52d0_78d83f96f0ecd9681971548 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I disagree that this is editorial an PR.

As I understand, in the current text we're

  1. Limiting the the frequency of key updates to avoid the deadlock in the case of frequent key updates (#2214). This is achieved by requiring a peer to not update keys to N+1 before receiving an acknowledgement for a packet sent at key phase N (which effectively limits key updates to no more than once per RTT).
  2. For crypto hygienic reasons (and to limit memory consumption), we're only keeping old keys alive for a maximum of 3 PTOs, and dropping them afterwards.
  3. If key updates are performed more frequently than once per 3 PTOs, endpoints MAY drop old keys sooner (again, in order to limit memory consumption). Note that this leads to (effective) packet loss if there's sufficient reordering of packets encrypted with the old keys. However, if there's no reordering, no packets are lost.

This PR changes the text such that a peer could effectively refuse to update to the new keys for a period of 3 PTO, thereby inducing massive packet loss on all packets encrypted with the new key phase, even in the absence of packet reordering.

In my opinion, this change is therefore not editorial, but a design change.
Furthermore, I'm also not convinced that this is the right way to go. The current text has the nice property that there's a very clear definition when a key update is allowed: as soon as you receive an acknowledgment for the current key phase. According to this PR, this clear definition is replaced by saying that a subsequent key update shouldn't happen within 3 PTOs. The problem is that the PTO is a local value, and peers might disagree about the precise value at any given time. Therefore, there's no clear point in time when a key update could be performed safely (i.e. without risking that the peer refuses to update keys).

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WFM. I would have preferred to see this be explicit that the intent is to capture intentional delays added by the stack though.

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This PR changes the text such that a peer could effectively refuse to update to the new keys for a period of 3 PTO, thereby inducing massive packet loss on all packets encrypted with the new key phase, even in the absence of packet reordering.

I think what you are missing is "endpoint SHOULD retain old keys for a period of no more than three times the PTO" (quoting from section 6). As you can see, the current text already effectively refuses updates more frequent than every 3 PTO. Hence my argument that this is an editorial change.

I also do not see why an endpoint need to update the key as frequently as couple of PTOs. Key update exists so that endpoints can replace the keys becoming weak after being used extensively. A key that becomes weak just after couple of PTOs should never be used. Therefore, it is my view is that seeing performance degradation when updating keys too frequently (due to packets being deemed lost) is a non-issue.

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Key update exists so that endpoints can replace the keys becoming weak after being used extensively. A key that becomes weak just after couple of PTOs should never be used. I agree with that, however, I'm very much in favor of having a clear-cut definition, instead of second-guessing what the peer's view of the PTO might be). > I think what you are missing is "endpoint SHOULD retain old keys for a period of no more than three times the PTO" (quoting from section 6). As you can see, the current text already effectively refuses updates more frequent than every 3 PTO. Hence my argument that this is an editorial change. This sets a **maximum** time on how long keys should be kept. I don't see how this would impose a limit on the frequency at all. To the contrary, we say that as soon as you receive a packet with the new key phase, you immediately update your keys: > A receiving endpoint detects an update when the KEY_PHASE bit does not match what it is expecting. It creates a new secret [...] and the corresponding read key and IV using the KDF function provided by TLS. The spec goes on to clarify that IF you want to limit the number of keys, you drop **the old keys**: > Endpoints MAY limit the number of keys they retain to two sets for removing packet protection and one set for protecting packets. Older keys can be discarded. This leads to the risk that packets are dropped **in the case of significant reordering**. Every time this section talks about packet loss, it's always in the case of reordering. > I think that this interpretation is incorrect; we already have the following in the spec: "an endpoint SHOULD NOT initiate a key update for some time after it has last updated keys; the RECOMMENDED time period is three times the PTO". I think we have this text because we want to guarantee optimal performance on connections that experience significant amounts of reordering, and waiting for 3 PTOs is a good way to ensure that all old packets are actually received. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2788#issuecomment-501609317 ----==_mimepart_5d020ca556e15_5d83f96fc2cd968498235 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I also do not see why an endpoint need to update the key as frequently as couple of PTOs. Key update exists so that endpoints can replace the keys becoming weak after being used extensively. A key that becomes weak just after couple of PTOs should never be used.

I agree with that, however, I'm very much in favor of having a clear-cut definition, instead of second-guessing what the peer's view of the PTO might be).

I think what you are missing is "endpoint SHOULD retain old keys for a period of no more than three times the PTO" (quoting from section 6). As you can see, the current text already effectively refuses updates more frequent than every 3 PTO. Hence my argument that this is an editorial change.

This sets a maximum time on how long keys should be kept. I don't see how this would impose a limit on the frequency at all.

To the contrary, we say that as soon as you receive a packet with the new key phase, you immediately update your keys:

A receiving endpoint detects an update when the KEY_PHASE bit does not match what it is expecting. It creates a new secret [...] and the corresponding read key and IV using the KDF function provided by TLS.

The spec goes on to clarify that IF you want to limit the number of keys, you drop the old keys:

Endpoints MAY limit the number of keys they retain to two sets for removing packet protection and one set for protecting packets. Older keys can be discarded.

This leads to the risk that packets are dropped in the case of significant reordering. Every time this section talks about packet loss, it's always in the case of reordering.

I think that this interpretation is incorrect; we already have the following in the spec: "an endpoint SHOULD NOT initiate a key update for some time after it has last updated keys; the RECOMMENDED time period is three times the PTO".

I think we have this text because we want to guarantee optimal performance on connections that experience significant amounts of reordering, and waiting for 3 PTOs is a good way to ensure that all old packets are actually received.

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While we agree that excessive use is key update is something unnecessa= ry, I think you are correct in point out that an endpoint is expected to = process an incoming packet protected by a newer generation of key, presum= ably be comparing the PN of the incoming packet and the highest PN and ep= och of the packet received previously.

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That=E2=80=99d make this PR worthless with the exception of the remova= l of the MAY requirement on the number of the send keys.

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OTOH, this means that we need to discuss if and how we need to prevent= excessive key updates being used as a DoS vector...

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Thanks @martinthomson I clarified that this is intentional delay.

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[ci skip] From nobody Thu Jun 13 06:00:45 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A681120199 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2019 06:00:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hJ3tee0HQH4Z for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2019 06:00:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C5DC7120090 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2019 06:00:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2019 06:00:41 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560430841; bh=LpeXaRJFR0rRyKLQAXwQEESYZ4I8D66hbyMQnWGFOlk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=gh+r60hCMNhL9M0QR0FpmCmK1d/g48XizfrNy52DTNG6fY62Vc/aB1fTuw4w8NZEw efzLdX5sqkqpygF+jEpxOrDNhQ4j5fLyptvWI1hG3Mgx0+Dd7X81XQX9kHl4ZgNQZg TnaRT2vTZj8KG9ttdHLZ1AuJ3LTvqkcMX2ppnP/8= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] allow PRIORITY frames referring to placeholders exceeding `SETTING_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` (#2761) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d0248f9b01e2_76023fbc29ecd9643298e8"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2019 13:00:45 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d0248f9b01e2_76023fbc29ecd9643298e8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >From a functionality perspective, I agree this brings H3 inline with H2, but it uses a new mechanism to achieve functional parity. 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From a functionality perspective, I agree this brings H3 inline with H2, but it uses a new mechanism to achieve functional parity. As we've discussed, a new mechanism seems necessary in H3, but it is new nonetheless.

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Therefore, it is my view that seeing performance degradation when updating keys too frequently (due to packets being deemed lost) is a non-issue.

and

OTOH, this means that we need to discuss if and how we need to prevent excessive key updates being used as a DoS vector...

This is why language is interesting for short key update intervals. A dumb buggy implementation that looks like a DoS attack shouldn't say - it's according to spec.

But it isn't worth too much thought since the issue is limited, overall.

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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> -including the length of the name and value in bytes plus an overhead of 32 bytes
-for each header field.
+An HTTP/3 implementation MAY impose a limit on the maximum size of the message
+header it will accept on an individual HTTP message.  A server that receives a
+larger header field list than it is willing to handle can send an HTTP 431
+(Request Header Fields Too Large) status code {{?RFC6585}}.  A client can
+discard responses that it cannot process.  The size of a header field list is
+calculated based on the uncompressed size of header fields, including the length
+of the name and value in bytes plus an overhead of 32 bytes for each header
+field.
+
+If an implementation wishes to advise its peer of this limit, it can be conveyed
+as a number of bytes in the `SETTINGS_MAX_HEADER_LIST_SIZE` parameter. An
+implementation which has received this parameter SHOULD NOT send an HTTP message
+header which exceeds the indicated size, as this will likely produce an error
+and could disrupt the entire connection if the peer reacts negatively.  However,

In previous discussions, I thought we concluded closing the connection if the limit was exceeded was acceptable and therefore this wasn't really advisory?

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----==_mimepart_5d0280269df4d_28e93fc857ccd9689727c-- From nobody Thu Jun 13 10:19:20 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9F16120432 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2019 10:19:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.391 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.391 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0WKp1K7ZSNwf for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2019 10:19:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BE8BF120199 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2019 10:19:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2019 10:19:09 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560446349; bh=L5iVhLblqXiCP/B9oNQe9SF2mvT9SVkGrRGTHhT2F+g=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=sQYJopA8VApZjvl9s4fZjNVPQz3Yv54thNlMn+nBR2SutMkBoG/ZAGVXuUedmhfzQ yJvIP9GfVnY1+pZuySHT24SFgzOC+3pPDvHPPiU/XlIpW8n+NihRuXTkxYmVEZBxNm qyPBBd467jx4tPIybbRMmp6wGrL80sVZHSg6odrE= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Disallow reuse of stateless reset tokens (#2785) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d02858d9c9d2_78a03fe7bdccd96029599"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2019 17:19:20 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d02858d9c9d2_78a03fe7bdccd96029599 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @DavidSchinazi I'm not sure about that - isn't there text about hiding SRT among ordinary traffic. If so it cannot be shorter than the CID + overhead, well the packet that is. But I'm probably mixing up packet size with storage requirements. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2785#issuecomment-501798009 ----==_mimepart_5d02858d9c9d2_78a03fe7bdccd96029599 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@DavidSchinazi I'm not sure about that - isn't there text about hiding SRT among ordinary traffic. If so it cannot be shorter than the CID + overhead, well the packet that is. But I'm probably mixing up packet size with storage requirements.

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The SRT is only 16 bytes, but the packet it's sent in is supposed to look like a typical QUIC short header packet, and therefore needs to be of a minimum size.

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@MikeBishop commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> -including the length of the name and value in bytes plus an overhead of 32 bytes
-for each header field.
+An HTTP/3 implementation MAY impose a limit on the maximum size of the message
+header it will accept on an individual HTTP message.  A server that receives a
+larger header field list than it is willing to handle can send an HTTP 431
+(Request Header Fields Too Large) status code {{?RFC6585}}.  A client can
+discard responses that it cannot process.  The size of a header field list is
+calculated based on the uncompressed size of header fields, including the length
+of the name and value in bytes plus an overhead of 32 bytes for each header
+field.
+
+If an implementation wishes to advise its peer of this limit, it can be conveyed
+as a number of bytes in the `SETTINGS_MAX_HEADER_LIST_SIZE` parameter. An
+implementation which has received this parameter SHOULD NOT send an HTTP message
+header which exceeds the indicated size, as this will likely produce an error
+and could disrupt the entire connection if the peer reacts negatively.  However,

It is advisory, in that you're being told in advance what message size the peer will refuse to process. When this was recommended to be a stream error, the risk was that a stream error can always be promoted to a connection error at implementation discretion, and a connection error would tear everything else down with it.

Now that we recommend an HTTP status code instead, this language might be unnecessary.

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So essentially, we're saying that we maybe didn't really have consensus on the answer to #2732 being "yes." But since there was a consensus call that said we did, now the question is whether we have consensus to reverse that decision? Let me suggest that be taken to the list.

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@gorryfair mentions on list:

A connection MAY use the delay between sending a PATH_CHALLENGE and
receiving a PATH_RESPONSE to seed initial_rtt for a new path, but the delay
SHOULD NOT be considered an RTT sample.

.... Maybe I am wrong, but I interpret RFC6298 as saying the seed value
should be 1.5 x larger than this RTT value?

(To account for RTT variance.)

I don't quite get the same reading from 6258 (the 0.5 seems to come from setting RTTVAR on the first sample, but that isn't fed into SRTT anywhere...), but this seems like a good idea, if only out of caution. The new path might be longer. But it's hard to say by how much. Some hedging seems wise.

The first RTT measurement will erase this, so it will only govern behaviour on unresponsive paths. So it's probably not critical.

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Session tickets might arrive before SETTINGS. If so, then clients will need to understand whether those settings apply when they resume.

I think that the right answer is to say that the first (and only?) SETTINGS is bound to all session tickets. Clients can then choose whether to remember settings with tickets and whether they wait for settings to arrive before saving tickets.

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I think we need more refinement. Added ACK-eliciting and remove the word host since its confusing:

An endpoint measures the intentional delay between when a ACK-eliciting packet is received
when the corresponding acknowledgment is sent. The endpoint encodes this delay for the largest

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----==_mimepart_5d02e9c5a72d3_59513f82b54cd96c1542c6-- From nobody Thu Jun 13 17:27:16 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E04E12004B for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2019 17:27:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id igSVo1evMNXP for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2019 17:27:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-16.smtp.github.com (out-16.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.199]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A88C812000E for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2019 17:27:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2019 17:27:11 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560472032; bh=sllrG0s5w9UiW8T8GDUQ9GVRrgYRBoKFNQlGg2ER+V4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=2WdfQkG6cTkzLcxJfzh36fg2pwGB01qZUDpxzc6sRR8Fed1Ns8Bd4znIuO55w+l7w dFHtkXgMohIcZ0qsZnoTEjMxe764rWofzi2xR4c46EGMHardr8RD/P1W0HjuCvsWhE UnCmKOw2gtHp4bseIKZl0kfEo32RB+lr2PaZQRAU= From: Mark Nottingham Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Discuss requirement that connection IDs not be correlatable (#2084) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d02e9dfe9cb5_159a3f877c6cd96c262122"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mnot X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2019 00:27:14 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d02e9dfe9cb5_159a3f877c6cd96c262122 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @ekr how is this progressing? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2084#issuecomment-501925004 ----==_mimepart_5d02e9dfe9cb5_159a3f877c6cd96c262122 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@ekr how is this progressing?

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@mjoras any progress here?

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----==_mimepart_5d02ea39cb468_761e3fdf0e2cd9681002b1-- From nobody Thu Jun 13 17:29:04 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B2E51200B8 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2019 17:29:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uySONNPkn9k5 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2019 17:29:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 398D212004B for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2019 17:29:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2019 17:29:01 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560472141; bh=bU7fkZd110LeyrW0P+LuVtae2L2uZ0kCRZfenEPZhMk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=aH/iXqgGEVl8F9xzyFIOWbrQcAIghwE1jH9feQfrWh+rJKCYRv786KVAyS+xyJ/lp 9mfWDEtQnsTTr03XxRzjTMVUiIQ37nz4sgl0V9gm/EthdeU9kfrHvalWZ5xBwmJXkV lDbP4Sb8aiipPX40ROJ0NmX0K9lC9PTaedWLjC7A= From: Mark Nottingham Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clients cannot abandon Initial packets while server can still send initial close (#2541) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d02ea4d72282_6e293f8ba54cd9642639b0"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mnot X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2019 00:29:04 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d02ea4d72282_6e293f8ba54cd9642639b0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi @DavidSchinazi any progress on a proposal? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2541#issuecomment-501925284 ----==_mimepart_5d02ea4d72282_6e293f8ba54cd9642639b0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hi @DavidSchinazi any progress on a proposal?

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@erickinnear any progress here? Thanks.

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I think the conclusion here is close with no further action, but it's be good for @janaiyengar to confirm.

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From a functionality perspective, I agree this brings H3 inline with H2, but it uses a new mechanism to achieve functional parity. As we've discussed, a new mechanism seems necessary in H3, but it is new nonetheless.

Yeah. Granted that placeholders are new in HTTP/3 and therefore they can be enforced as optional, I do not see why they need to be.

I think our experience in HTTP/2 tells us that clients can specify different weights for requests so that the bandwidths would be distributed based on the weights when the server does not support placeholders at all. I'd assume that most if not all clients would use that same tree if we enforce them to not use placeholders when SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS is set to zero.

To rephrase, I do not think there would be a benefit in terms of performance by having this enforcement, for the majority of our use case.

Compared to that, the complexity being introduced by the enforcement is a burden. Not only because it requires clients to build different priority tree based on the server's settings, but because the client needs to wait for the server's SETTINGS to arrive before it can decide the type of the priority tree to use. For the server, the complexity is the same regardless of the approach; it's either throwing away PRIORITY frames that refer to out-of-bound placeholders or sending connection errors.

Therefore, while placeholders can be considered optional, I do not think it justifies the servers enforcing the limit.

PS. Or is your problem that SETTING_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS to zero is not RECOMMENDED? If so, I think we could change to the recommendation from "at least 32" to "zero or at least 32". As stated above, setting I do not think setting it to zero would be an issue. It set to some wired small value (like 3, which is below the number of placeholders Firefox uses) is the case where we'd see performance issues.

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The endpoint encodes this host -delay for the largest acknowledged packet in the Ack Delay field of an ACK frame -(see Section 19.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}). This allows the receiver of the ACK -to adjust for any host delays, which is important for delayed acknowledgements, -when estimating the path RTT. In certain deployments, a packet might be held in -the OS kernel or elsewhere on the host before being processed by the QUIC -stack. Where possible, an endpoint MAY include these delays when populating the -Ack Delay field in an ACK frame. +An endpoint measures the intentional delay between when a ACK-eliciting packet _an_ ACK-eliciting packet? > -delay for the largest acknowledged packet in the Ack Delay field of an ACK frame -(see Section 19.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}). This allows the receiver of the ACK -to adjust for any host delays, which is important for delayed acknowledgements, -when estimating the path RTT. In certain deployments, a packet might be held in -the OS kernel or elsewhere on the host before being processed by the QUIC -stack. Where possible, an endpoint MAY include these delays when populating the -Ack Delay field in an ACK frame. +An endpoint measures the intentional delay between when a ACK-eliciting packet +is received and the corresponding acknowledgment is sent. The endpoint encodes +this delay for the largest acknowledged packet in the Ack Delay field of an ACK +frame (see Section 19.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}). This allows the receiver of the +ACK to adjust for any intentional delays, which is important for delayed +acknowledgements, when estimating the path RTT. A packet might be held in the +OS kernel or elsewhere on the host before being processed. An endpoint +SHOULD NOT include these delays when populating the Ack Delay field in an ACK +frame. Do we need to state something like "unless the delay is controlled by the stack"? I ask this, because I'd assume that the delay should be taken into account even if it is introduced by the kernel or elsewhere, if it is "intentional" by the stack. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2786#pullrequestreview-249669670 ----==_mimepart_5d02f102a1855_efa3fac0bccd96c109891 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@kazuho commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -302,15 +302,15 @@ continue making forward progress.
 
 ## Measuring and Reporting Host Delay {#host-delay}
 
-An endpoint measures the delay incurred between when a packet is received and
-when the corresponding acknowledgment is sent.  The endpoint encodes this host
-delay for the largest acknowledged packet in the Ack Delay field of an ACK frame
-(see Section 19.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}).  This allows the receiver of the ACK
-to adjust for any host delays, which is important for delayed acknowledgements,
-when estimating the path RTT.  In certain deployments, a packet might be held in
-the OS kernel or elsewhere on the host before being processed by the QUIC
-stack. Where possible, an endpoint MAY include these delays when populating the
-Ack Delay field in an ACK frame.
+An endpoint measures the intentional delay between when a ACK-eliciting packet

an ACK-eliciting packet?

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> -delay for the largest acknowledged packet in the Ack Delay field of an ACK frame
-(see Section 19.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}).  This allows the receiver of the ACK
-to adjust for any host delays, which is important for delayed acknowledgements,
-when estimating the path RTT.  In certain deployments, a packet might be held in
-the OS kernel or elsewhere on the host before being processed by the QUIC
-stack. Where possible, an endpoint MAY include these delays when populating the
-Ack Delay field in an ACK frame.
+An endpoint measures the intentional delay between when a ACK-eliciting packet
+is received and the corresponding acknowledgment is sent. The endpoint encodes
+this delay for the largest acknowledged packet in the Ack Delay field of an ACK
+frame (see Section 19.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}).  This allows the receiver of the
+ACK to adjust for any intentional delays, which is important for delayed
+acknowledgements, when estimating the path RTT.  A packet might be held in the
+OS kernel or elsewhere on the host before being processed.  An endpoint
+SHOULD NOT include these delays when populating the Ack Delay field in an ACK
+frame.

Do we need to state something like "unless the delay is controlled by the stack"?

I ask this, because I'd assume that the delay should be taken into account even if it is introduced by the kernel or elsewhere, if it is "intentional" by the stack.

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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> -delay for the largest acknowledged packet in the Ack Delay field of an ACK frame
-(see Section 19.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}).  This allows the receiver of the ACK
-to adjust for any host delays, which is important for delayed acknowledgements,
-when estimating the path RTT.  In certain deployments, a packet might be held in
-the OS kernel or elsewhere on the host before being processed by the QUIC
-stack. Where possible, an endpoint MAY include these delays when populating the
-Ack Delay field in an ACK frame.
+An endpoint measures the intentional delay between when a ACK-eliciting packet
+is received and the corresponding acknowledgment is sent. The endpoint encodes
+this delay for the largest acknowledged packet in the Ack Delay field of an ACK
+frame (see Section 19.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}).  This allows the receiver of the
+ACK to adjust for any intentional delays, which is important for delayed
+acknowledgements, when estimating the path RTT.  A packet might be held in the
+OS kernel or elsewhere on the host before being processed.  An endpoint
+SHOULD NOT include these delays when populating the Ack Delay field in an ACK
+frame.

I added the word "unintentional" to clarify your point. Does that work?

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[ci skip] From nobody Thu Jun 13 18:06:55 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91534120075 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2019 18:06:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.423 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.423 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.415, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ygmdnoo_5IoI for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2019 18:06:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E01012003F for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2019 18:06:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2019 18:06:50 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560474410; bh=xrC3pWS0RqCdwlhuZg6IwGR22X7lcZl0LAx6YQOmzbk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ckI7/1OHzPWjUutnTgVicjTnNakYPozGRRdJljmlxn0nTs4fldkWDGY1jufQ+cdnp RJjBIRm09CPrA0T501Blc0nS2CLB2X3cD6VSme8ORpklzxOwYa1W4VGy5lj7DxaBfN TVqZIfMMi9vdJFQSLKdPKXQowKRH0wsSZnqLAd94= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] SHOULD NOT include platform delay in ack delay (#2786) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d02f32ac66ee_44e13fb1640cd960744988"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2019 01:06:54 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d02f32ac66ee_44e13fb1640cd960744988 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kazuho commented on this pull request. > -delay for the largest acknowledged packet in the Ack Delay field of an ACK frame -(see Section 19.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}). This allows the receiver of the ACK -to adjust for any host delays, which is important for delayed acknowledgements, -when estimating the path RTT. In certain deployments, a packet might be held in -the OS kernel or elsewhere on the host before being processed by the QUIC -stack. Where possible, an endpoint MAY include these delays when populating the -Ack Delay field in an ACK frame. +An endpoint measures the intentional delay between when a ACK-eliciting packet +is received and the corresponding acknowledgment is sent. The endpoint encodes +this delay for the largest acknowledged packet in the Ack Delay field of an ACK +frame (see Section 19.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}). This allows the receiver of the +ACK to adjust for any intentional delays, which is important for delayed +acknowledgements, when estimating the path RTT. A packet might be held in the +OS kernel or elsewhere on the host before being processed. An endpoint +SHOULD NOT include these delays when populating the Ack Delay field in an ACK +frame. Thank you! LGTM. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2786#discussion_r293629569 ----==_mimepart_5d02f32ac66ee_44e13fb1640cd960744988 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@kazuho commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> -delay for the largest acknowledged packet in the Ack Delay field of an ACK frame
-(see Section 19.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}).  This allows the receiver of the ACK
-to adjust for any host delays, which is important for delayed acknowledgements,
-when estimating the path RTT.  In certain deployments, a packet might be held in
-the OS kernel or elsewhere on the host before being processed by the QUIC
-stack. Where possible, an endpoint MAY include these delays when populating the
-Ack Delay field in an ACK frame.
+An endpoint measures the intentional delay between when a ACK-eliciting packet
+is received and the corresponding acknowledgment is sent. The endpoint encodes
+this delay for the largest acknowledged packet in the Ack Delay field of an ACK
+frame (see Section 19.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}).  This allows the receiver of the
+ACK to adjust for any intentional delays, which is important for delayed
+acknowledgements, when estimating the path RTT.  A packet might be held in the
+OS kernel or elsewhere on the host before being processed.  An endpoint
+SHOULD NOT include these delays when populating the Ack Delay field in an ACK
+frame.

Thank you! LGTM.

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----==_mimepart_5d03047ab08d2_15b43fac336cd968269715-- From nobody Thu Jun 13 19:22:57 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C24FA12010E for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2019 19:22:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id c4X1isJfe5Tz for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2019 19:22:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 978C51200F9 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2019 19:22:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2019 19:22:52 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560478972; bh=VFMbMli1blI19PApD8tonRG70GitH58H4hPpVolDHCg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=pIKbVRMmLZdQUKryamcDmAIsEGAmRvzLuQQbKU8Hd5z9BRqyPz5FHHn2OyqtlQdbN 2Y3FSTbAb/6rNtqgQ5lXdtLDQHsQpSTi8G4Z5I9M0tfHZ0Rv5WmW8ioqmHFsk5Om2G 8w1fx/pQoyRl9EckGagVdU7Rp3Z+7cyxQiNEe+WY= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Don't store or retransmit PATH_RESPONSE frames, avoid buffering (#2729) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d0304fc3f59b_11a53ff5186cd96c3134c2"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2019 02:22:56 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d0304fc3f59b_11a53ff5186cd96c3134c2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I took the liberty of making the change proposed by Kazuho here. I did not make a change to prohibit sending multiple PATH_RESPONSE per packet. As others have pointed out, that makes processing packets for sending more complex than is ideal. The text allowing these frames to be dropped is fine. If someone disagrees with this, then I think it would be best to take that discussion up in a new issue. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2729#issuecomment-501943552 ----==_mimepart_5d0304fc3f59b_11a53ff5186cd96c3134c2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I took the liberty of making the change proposed by Kazuho here.

I did not make a change to prohibit sending multiple PATH_RESPONSE per packet. As others have pointed out, that makes processing packets for sending more complex than is ideal. The text allowing these frames to be dropped is fine.

If someone disagrees with this, then I think it would be best to take that discussion up in a new issue.

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With help from @marten-seemann, I have composed a PR explains how a receiver should renew it's keys when seeing the KEY_PHASE bit changing.

This replaces #2788 (which I initially thought was correct, but was in fact incorrect as Marten has pointed out).

However, the question is if the approach being described in this PR is secure...

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2791

Commit Summary

  • explain the procedure of the receiver installing new 1-RTT keys
  • Marten's rewording

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An endpoint MUST NOT send more than one PATH_RESPONSE frame in response to one
PATH_CHALLENGE frame.

With this text, should't PATH_RESPONSE be non-ack-eliciting?

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With this text, should't PATH_RESPONSE be non-ack-eliciting?

I think there is no need for such change, because a frame that's ack-eliciting does not necessary mean that it needs to be retransmitted.

Quoting section 13.2 of the transport draft, QUIC packets that are determined to be lost are not retransmitted whole. The same applies to the frames that are contained within lost packets. Instead, the information that might be carried in frames is sent again in new frames as needed.

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When receiving a packet with an unexpected key phase, an implementation should compute the new keys:

A receiving endpoint detects an update when the KEY_PHASE bit does not match what it is expecting. It creates a new secret [...] and the corresponding read key and IV using the KDF function provided by TLS.

This creates a timing side-channel, since an attacker can modify the KEY_PHASE bit, thereby making a peer compute the next key generation. The packet will be discarded, since the header is protected by the AEAD, but the fact that the key is computed on receipt of that packet is a side-channel that might be used to recover the header protection key.

The way to avoid this side-channel is to pre-compute the N+1 key when rolling over keys from key phase N-1 to N. An implementation would then use the N+1 keys when receiving a packet with an unexpected KEY_PHASE, in exactly the same way it would do decryption on a packet sent at key phase N.

This however contradicts the text that claims that an implementation may choose to only keep two read keys at any given moment:

Endpoints MAY limit the number of keys they retain to two sets for removing packet protection and one set for protecting packets. Older keys can be discarded.

Directly after a key update, an implementation would have to store (at least) 3 key generations: N-1 for a duration of 3 PTO, in order to be able to decrypt delayed / reordered packets, N, as well as the precomputed N+1 to avoid the timing side-channel described above.

I don't think that storing 3 keys is a problem (I think @kazuho disagrees, I'll let him explain his reasoning himself), but the spec shouldn't pretend that it's possible to create an implementation that both isn't vulnerable to the timing side-channel and at the same time gracefully handles moderate amounts of reordering around a key update.

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=0D = ----==_mimepart_5d0351a62321e_2fc43fde58ecd968495067-- From nobody Fri Jun 14 01:40:00 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53811120110 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2019 01:39:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RnKJKO7-0_Ns for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2019 01:39:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-10.smtp.github.com (out-10.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1FBB5120086 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2019 01:39:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2019 01:39:56 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560501596; bh=xCvDmVi7ZDVFDiT4jSR1MoeU0TY7YDH3N9Q7lnPBlpk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=zWa1yFymcXf9wczx493+NXDL9sJIVUBUL5V8c5FPqQjG8u93prbxwWVqqNA2NKQen a/HQu89Myd/93cyZnyskluYwxHShNCqgaj9ww5SaxsVy+Nhi7LlFL13iKcUkwMqZzT Rhknq02zhxe6Aj4fBBt+mFsPeaqUQBxiKggkXUhc= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Timing side-channel on key updates (#2792) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d035d5c4221f_5e533ff3812cd9685832e6"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2019 08:39:59 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d035d5c4221f_5e533ff3812cd9685832e6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think you are correct in pointing out that there is a timing side-channel, and that we need to fix the issue. OTOH, I disagree that requiring all endpoints to be capable of retaining 3 keys is not a good way of fixing the issue due to the following reasons. Firstly, I do not think we can justify why an endpoint needs to be capable of retaining that much keys, even though Key Update is expected to happen very rarely. The purpose of Key Update is to replace a key after extensive use, we would never be using a key that becomes weak just after couple of PTOs. Considering that, using 2 keys should be sufficient; 3 keys is likely a sign of a needlessly complex design. Let's compare the proposal of the 3-key design with a 2-key design (that allows the receiver to delay the installation of the next key for 3 PTO after since Key Update, which is #2788). In the 3-key design, the next key is installed when a Key Update happens. The old key is disposed 3 PTO after a Key Update, and the slot becomes NULL. In the 2-key design, installation of the next key and the disposal of the old key happens at the same moment (i.e. 3 PTO after a Key Update). An endpoint would always retain 2 keys once the handshake is confirmed. To me it seems that the latter is simpler. As stated above, there is no need for doing Key Update every 3 PTO, and therefore, assuming that we need to make a change due to the attack vector, I think we should simply allow endpoints delay the installation of the next key rather than changing the increasing the minimum state that an endpoint needs to be capable of maintaining. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2792#issuecomment-502023289 ----==_mimepart_5d035d5c4221f_5e533ff3812cd9685832e6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I think you are correct in pointing out that there is a timing side-channel, and that we need to fix the issue.

OTOH, I disagree that requiring all endpoints to be capable of retaining 3 keys is not a good way of fixing the issue due to the following reasons.

Firstly, I do not think we can justify why an endpoint needs to be capable of retaining that much keys, even though Key Update is expected to happen very rarely. The purpose of Key Update is to replace a key after extensive use, we would never be using a key that becomes weak just after couple of PTOs.

Considering that, using 2 keys should be sufficient; 3 keys is likely a sign of a needlessly complex design.

Let's compare the proposal of the 3-key design with a 2-key design (that allows the receiver to delay the installation of the next key for 3 PTO after since Key Update, which is #2788).

In the 3-key design, the next key is installed when a Key Update happens. The old key is disposed 3 PTO after a Key Update, and the slot becomes NULL.

In the 2-key design, installation of the next key and the disposal of the old key happens at the same moment (i.e. 3 PTO after a Key Update). An endpoint would always retain 2 keys once the handshake is confirmed.

To me it seems that the latter is simpler. As stated above, there is no need for doing Key Update every 3 PTO, and therefore, assuming that we need to make a change due to the attack vector, I think we should simply allow endpoints delay the installation of the next key rather than changing the increasing the minimum state that an endpoint needs to be capable of maintaining.

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----==_mimepart_5d035d5c4221f_5e533ff3812cd9685832e6-- From nobody Fri Jun 14 02:07:11 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4808C120106 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2019 02:07:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UNNfqRq9aRVK for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2019 02:07:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 87F8E12002F for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2019 02:07:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2019 02:07:06 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560503226; bh=OTfb3+R2IVbxxXxIPrRPlD+u43tq/7x5jRUf05FAAHM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=lE3NhHZYqBP96Qxm2yTAm0tzqQbN8bvIr/ratjyGwnSR5DNmQOpef2kSJhcjEn2RJ 1/poWhchheCSdoNJToedgMibszXC91rFscnnmNSxpIJzx4ULzDl6k+FVH2xlGOCaay xZrqPUd5DSBFKehc8Wrs71sjL1noqrI6c0meWebo= From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Timing side-channel on key updates (#2792) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d0363bab2bd_72983f7fbe2cd9681185c9"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2019 09:07:09 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d0363bab2bd_72983f7fbe2cd9681185c9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree, there's not really a need to do key updates that frequently. However, I like the fact that we're currently defining a clear rule: An endpoint is allowed to update to N+1 as soon as it has received an acknowledgement for a packet sent at key phase N. > In the 2-key design, installation of the next key and the disposal of the old key happens at the same moment (i.e. 3 PTO after a Key Update). An endpoint would always retain 2 keys once the handshake is confirmed. There is no need for retaining a mapping between packet numbers and key phases. The oddity of the key phase bit directly maps to the decryption key. You should still keep track of the packet number at which the key update happened, in order to check that the peer is not reusing the old key to encrypt packets after it already switched to new keys. Strictly speaking, this is not required for a working implementation, but it's a really easy check to catch a misbehaving peer (or detect an active attack). > In the 3-key design, the next key is installed when a Key Update happens. The old key is disposed 3 PTO after a Key Update, and the slot becomes NULL. As I've mentioned in the discussion in #2788, the reason I'm skeptical about delaying key updates by 3 PTO (and effectively dropping all packets with a higher key phase until this period is over) is that we're replacing a very clear definition by an approximate rule: the PTO is calculated locally, and depending on the network conditions, the two endpoints might have different opinions about the exact value of the PTO. An endpoint that wants to ensure that no packets are dropped due to the unavailability of keys would have no choice but to wait >> 3 PTO. While this should be well within the safety limits of the cipher suites we're using, not having a clear criterion seems to be a sign of suboptimal protocol design. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2792#issuecomment-502032498 ----==_mimepart_5d0363bab2bd_72983f7fbe2cd9681185c9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I agree, there's not really a need to do key updates that frequently. = However, I like the fact that we're currently defining a clear rule: An e= ndpoint is allowed to update to N+1 as soon as it has received an acknowl= edgement for a packet sent at key phase N.

In the 2-key design, installation of the next key and the disposal of = the old key happens at the same moment (i.e. 3 PTO after a Key Update). A= n endpoint would always retain 2 keys once the handshake is confirmed. Th= ere is no need for retaining a mapping between packet numbers and key pha= ses. The oddity of the key phase bit directly maps to the decryption key.=

You should still keep track of the packet number at which the key upda= te happened, in order to check that the peer is not reusing the old key t= o encrypt packets after it already switched to new keys. Strictly speakin= g, this is not required for a working implementation, but it's a really e= asy check to catch a misbehaving peer (or detect an active attack).

In the 3-key design, the next key is installed when a Key Update happe= ns. The old key is disposed 3 PTO after a Key Update, and the slot become= s NULL.

As I've mentioned in the discussion in #2788, the reason I= 'm skeptical about delaying key updates by 3 PTO (and effectively droppin= g all packets with a higher key phase until this period is over) is that = we're replacing a very clear definition by an approximate rule: the PTO i= s calculated locally, and depending on the network conditions, the two en= dpoints might have different opinions about the exact value of the PTO. A= n endpoint that wants to ensure that no packets are dropped due to the un= availability of keys would have no choice but to wait >> 3 PTO. Whi= le this should be well within the safety limits of the cipher suites we'r= e using, not having a clear criterion seems to be a sign of suboptimal pr= otocol design.

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I agree, there's not really a need to do key updates that frequently. However, I like the fact that we're currently defining a clear rule: An endpoint is allowed to update to N+1 as soon as it has received an acknowledgement for a packet sent at key phase N.

Perhaps we should state that an endpoint should precompute the key early but not update keys too frequently to prevent timing attacks and overhead.

An endpoint that wants to ensure that no packets are dropped due to the unavailability of keys would have no choice but to wait >> 3 PTO.

That is not necessarily a bad thing, but it is unfortunate that there is no clear definition. We could also say the idle timeout period.

As long as we compute keys using SHA256 it might not be a concern, but computing keys too frequently could exhaust safety parameters on other potentially faster algorithms.

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To clarify, the key phase bit is inside header protection, so the attacker in question is the peer?

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@ianswett: No, this is an on-path attack. Header protection is not authenticated, so an attacker can just flip bits in the header. Decrypting the packet will fail then, since the header is part of the authenticated data used in the AEAD.
We have a timing side-channel as soon as we treat packets differently based on values in the unprotected header, before authenticating the packet. This is analogous to the timing side channel using packet number.

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[ci skip] From nobody Fri Jun 14 06:32:03 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E7DF120115 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2019 06:32:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oHhi6UavL5GF for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2019 06:32:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 047FD120113 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2019 06:32:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2019 06:31:58 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560519118; bh=s6ggAsbDfeJtFMBShEXqrZGay9IZn4rx5KxsYF7gYzU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=GeFGTfN/FxC30wG7/oYuVrSTisaLx66Yb+n33pkmO68MHKNYbMfNfLJJneA5zmRkT rpNQHvlDCrQ+iJiiutGxYyT9iiaPFvc6yvqYtBUnUhnt/SQVAu1WbrZ2ODDMzKOIer dgMY4DUrvFsYqn3jxG1UgPsrdyx5VXRgu9ZgLh0Y= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Timing side-channel on key updates (#2792) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d03a1cec0f43_7a833f94e94cd96c18177e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2019 13:32:01 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d03a1cec0f43_7a833f94e94cd96c18177e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for the extra explanation, I'm not sure that's a very good side-channel, but I agree it is one. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Thanks for the extra explanation, I'm not sure that's a very good side-channel, but I agree it is one.

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LGTM. I compared it to my code and this is pretty much exactly how we do it.

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Does anyone have any ideas what kind of actual attack could take advantage of this? The attacker can only cause you to install your keys early once per key phase change. Assuming you hardly every change key phase, what then? I agree it's a way the unauthenticated attacker can change your state, but I don't think it's a big enough problem we need to worry about fixing.

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Does anyone have any ideas what kind of actual attack could take advantage of this?

That's a good question. I agree that this attack vector doesn't look very promising at first sight, but then again I'm always surprised what cryptanalysts can extract from a single bit.

The attacker can only cause you to install your keys early once per key phase change.

That depends. If you create the new keys, try decrypt the packet, and then discard the keys (if decryption fails), the attacker has an unbounded number of tries. Obviously, this would also be a DoS vector, since computing new keys is more than order of magnitude more expensive than an AEAD operation (at least in my implementation). If you cache the new keys once they are computed, then the attacker indeed only has a single shot per key phase. However, then you might as precompute the new keys when installing the current key phase.
The problem with that is that the spec currently suggests that you only ever need to keep state for 2 key generations at any given moment. This is incompatible with caching the keys for the next key phase, as I described above.

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----==_mimepart_5d03af55809bf_51703fe30b4cd96028756c-- From nobody Fri Jun 14 07:53:32 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFA1F12027E for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2019 07:53:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LvhQXhqedbJa for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2019 07:53:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7ABD71201B7 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2019 07:53:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2019 07:53:27 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560524007; bh=/ESVgjVBI8vJR2/W6DgorIuXMIo5lJZDaYmsrq4MHpA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=xtCRtoaKYkYb2U63oEOQh9dupgfBzK78uak0C6Iz2LFQdXLdZt4dFjHsEfuHnGW3h vpRGFu55fNyQkzFqWpWFshpuz0unDDvCRO/RnX4e0d7SBothTLRhtka1j/cGK8m/lO 76emFeTJD966T1viRFCZUON7uCylRUL7K4QkZNjs= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Timing side-channel on key updates (#2792) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d03b4e73851d_444a3fc44d4cd96077821"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2019 14:53:31 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d03b4e73851d_444a3fc44d4cd96077821 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @marten-seemann > I agree, there's not really a need to do key updates that frequently. However, I like the fact that we're currently defining a clear rule: An endpoint is allowed to update to N+1 as soon as it has received an acknowledgement for a packet sent at key phase N. But the current spec. also recommends to wait for 3 PTO before initiating the next Key Update. That would not change, and as we agree, nothing in practice requires us to do Key Updates every 3 PTO. >> In the 2-key design, installation of the next key and the disposal of the old key happens at the same moment (i.e. 3 PTO after a Key Update). An endpoint would always retain 2 keys once the handshake is confirmed. There is no need for retaining a mapping between packet numbers and key phases. The oddity of the key phase bit directly maps to the decryption key. > > You should still keep track of the packet number at which the key update happened, in order to check that the peer is not reusing the old key to encrypt packets after it already switched to new keys. Strictly speaking, this is not required for a working implementation, but it's a really easy check to catch a misbehaving peer (or detect an active attack). I agree that an endpoint might still want to track the packet number at which key update happened. But even in such case, the simplicity of the 2-key design still exists, in sense that you'd only use it for detecting a suspicious peer. It's much straightforward and easier to test, because the rare case (of actually using 3 keys at the same time) never happens. To clarify, I am not saying that 3-key design is incorrect. My argument is that lack of clear signal is a non-issue (because there is no need to do a Key Update every 3 PTO or more frequently), and that therefore that argument cannot be used for prohibiting people to choose the 2-key design (which is simpler). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2792#issuecomment-502140161 ----==_mimepart_5d03b4e73851d_444a3fc44d4cd96077821 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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I agree, there's not really a need to do key updates that frequently. However, I like the fact that we're currently defining a clear rule: An endpoint is allowed to update to N+1 as soon as it has received an acknowledgement for a packet sent at key phase N.

But the current spec. also recommends to wait for 3 PTO before initiating the next Key Update. That would not change, and as we agree, nothing in practice requires us to do Key Updates every 3 PTO.

In the 2-key design, installation of the next key and the disposal of the old key happens at the same moment (i.e. 3 PTO after a Key Update). An endpoint would always retain 2 keys once the handshake is confirmed. There is no need for retaining a mapping between packet numbers and key phases. The oddity of the key phase bit directly maps to the decryption key.

You should still keep track of the packet number at which the key update happened, in order to check that the peer is not reusing the old key to encrypt packets after it already switched to new keys. Strictly speaking, this is not required for a working implementation, but it's a really easy check to catch a misbehaving peer (or detect an active attack).

I agree that an endpoint might still want to track the packet number at which key update happened. But even in such case, the simplicity of the 2-key design still exists, in sense that you'd only use it for detecting a suspicious peer. It's much straightforward and easier to test, because the rare case (of actually using 3 keys at the same time) never happens.

To clarify, I am not saying that 3-key design is incorrect. My argument is that lack of clear signal is a non-issue (because there is no need to do a Key Update every 3 PTO or more frequently), and that therefore that argument cannot be used for prohibiting people to choose the 2-key design (which is simpler).

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Certainly if you said zero or at least 32, that would make placeholders more optional, so I'd have a preference for that.

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I like the new text prohibiting sending multiple PATH_RESPONSE frames. Now that we have that, do we still need unless it has PATH_RESPONSE frames buffered? Why would one buffer PATH_RESPONSE frames?

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----==_mimepart_5d03bcefb6ff3_26863fb2408cd96c9425f-- From nobody Fri Jun 14 08:32:29 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3D191203C5 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2019 08:32:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dhVcUjkQCIrj for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2019 08:32:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 40AB91203BE for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2019 08:32:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2019 08:32:25 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560526345; bh=7oIPc5RJE8CTmb25MNpyfDVomZKkK5ptcpYZMLRZNLg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=IackHbCxwJ5wwWxUZO7hQO0x14MrZib/agmtRBSmUIptR+uDIP2iMYZNaczENss03 1dmaKIk8bZA66RY87+KbDFIpU3KQTdR7dTXNCYpi5kOMe0kdIdS4RYErYqGX9JaJvT LhzJ7lGghErRqxyHfp9wFmG/zgfTuOOmk1BNTRUk= From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] SHOULD NOT include platform delay in ack delay (#2786) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d03be09559aa_bdc3fe1ab6cd960517991"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2019 15:32:28 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d03be09559aa_bdc3fe1ab6cd960517991 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A related question: should the time TLS takes to process handshake packets be included in RTT or ACK delay? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2786#issuecomment-502155160 ----==_mimepart_5d03be09559aa_bdc3fe1ab6cd960517991 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

A related question: should the time TLS takes to process handshake packets be included in RTT or ACK delay?

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Isn't the middle ground here to pre-compute the N+1 key when the N-1 key is dropped, with the drop happening at the first of:

  • 3xPTO after the N key was first used
  • First arrival of a packet which purports to be N+1

The attacker's ability at that point would be to cause any delayed N-1 packets to be dropped, but if we're presuming the ability to bit-flip, they can cause those packets to be invalid and dropped anyway.

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----==_mimepart_5d03beb477d4f_1bf63ff68a8cd960292439-- From nobody Fri Jun 14 08:38:48 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A37CF120094 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2019 08:38:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OomKvehJP8bu for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2019 08:38:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-21.smtp.github.com (out-21.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.204]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B0946120257 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2019 08:38:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2019 08:38:37 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560526717; bh=4dAV9/8z3k6c1lX6EtUMXPFkoA9H4Sz9fYiLO5P6IpE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=bURmNciIdWJJgYRAYCT1rHxlDE5i50yL4qn6ry1K0DIWgMeNapRZbq5beId/Ucvxz HV74Rf7V1kw2NQNr25MI3A8U091RgrioKMLUHt5eMK8MKPJBZ3s1u3mKnSHU2U8nCn JPgrdXWbHgci3hxJVufz+OvIJXcn0RanpgTPA8xM= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] allow PRIORITY frames referring to placeholders exceeding `SETTING_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` (#2761) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d03bf7d95f7b_509e3f9a9e6cd964477347"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2019 15:38:41 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d03bf7d95f7b_509e3f9a9e6cd964477347 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit But when it's set to zero, clients no longer have the H2-style option of easy zombie streams to fulfill the roll. Sure, Firefox could have Chrome's behavior as a fallback option for servers that say zero, but I don't see that as necessarily being a good thing for the spec to RECOMMEND. In my opinion, "RECOMMENDED to be 32, allowed to be zero" communicates the right incentives. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2761#issuecomment-502157626 ----==_mimepart_5d03bf7d95f7b_509e3f9a9e6cd964477347 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

But when it's set to zero, clients no longer have the H2-style option of easy zombie streams to fulfill the roll. Sure, Firefox could have Chrome's behavior as a fallback option for servers that say zero, but I don't see that as necessarily being a good thing for the spec to RECOMMEND.

In my opinion, "RECOMMENDED to be 32, allowed to be zero" communicates the right incentives.

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Our implementation includes TLS and decrypt delay in ack delay. I think that's the right thing to do, but given it's a relatively fixed cost, I'm not sure it matters that much either way. Queueing delays of any sort are much more concerning, since you want to include those in the path RTT.

If one was doing async handshakes, then if the delayed ack timer went off before the handshake completed, you should still send an ACK frame and not wait for the handshake to complete.

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@ianswett you think TLS and decryption delays are "intentional delays"? The general goal is to make sure queuing delays, which realistically reflect load on the system, are included in RTT measurement; not ACK delay. In Windows, TLS itself is a global process and has queues for the whole system. So the amount of time a single TLS process call depends on the current TLS load of the system. That all sounds like "unintentional delay" to me.

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----==_mimepart_5d03c8f4c01d3_7ef13f8db18cd95c3439e-- From nobody Fri Jun 14 09:50:42 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEC801205FC for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2019 09:50:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.391 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.391 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1qCqgXPxPDgA for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2019 09:50:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-21.smtp.github.com (out-21.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.204]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FE80120662 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2019 09:50:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2019 09:50:34 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560531034; bh=3mSocXE22gsi+qaZ56mc6O71EnF8m/w30eT1fFSkTvE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Vl88Tmzev1gZyykLd9TkA+3bv+OWLswEvu+rVzII1vxtmlBzp7oi7zAwZXPI+80g8 H9wsWvppSXEdgJTG77hagKg4An8JYPM/2trupSiy998UksZgMLrWmESUez1Y01Qk80 AyuqG+wEOkm/wg8c+FxY+xFYyQlKWxDwWo+LCihU= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] SHOULD NOT include platform delay in ack delay (#2786) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d03d05ab00e5_68a63fb9512cd964358791"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2019 16:50:41 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d03d05ab00e5_68a63fb9512cd964358791 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit _I_ think that theoretically, decryption delay is not intentional (i.e. something an endpoint has opted in to add) and that therefore it should not be part of ACK delay. OTOH, processing of TLS handshake is about processing the payload of a "stream." That's something happening above the packet-level processing and ACK generation layer, and therefore it should be considered as part of the ACK delay. Note also that you can offload the handshake processing to a different thread or start the processing after you send an ACK. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2786#issuecomment-502184521 ----==_mimepart_5d03d05ab00e5_68a63fb9512cd964358791 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I think that theoretically, decryption delay is not intentional (i.e. something an endpoint has opted in to add) and that therefore it should not be part of ACK delay. OTOH, processing of TLS handshake is about processing the payload of a "stream." That's something happening above the packet-level processing and ACK generation layer, and therefore it should be considered as part of the ACK delay. Note also that you can offload the handshake processing to a different thread or start the processing after you send an ACK.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1721,7 +1721,12 @@ it can associate the peer's response with the corresponding PATH_CHALLENGE.
 ## Path Validation Responses
 
 On receiving a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, an endpoint MUST respond immediately by
-echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame.
+echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame,
+unless it has PATH_RESPONSE frames buffered for the same destination connection
+ID and wishes to limit memory consumption.

I'd be happy with saying SHOULD only send one and SHOULD only respond to one. Generally, I'm not a huge fan of collapsing multiple path challenges, but if we combine that with "don't send something that will get collapsed" then if that happens its your own fault.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1721,7 +1721,12 @@ it can associate the peer's response with the corresponding PATH_CHALLENGE.
 ## Path Validation Responses
 
 On receiving a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, an endpoint MUST respond immediately by
-echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame.
+echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame,
+unless it has PATH_RESPONSE frames buffered for the same destination connection
+ID and wishes to limit memory consumption.
+
+An endpoint MUST NOT store or retransmit a PATH_RESPONSE frame, as a new
+PATH_CHALLENGE frame will be sent if another PATH_RESPONSE frame is needed.

Added text for SHOULD NOT send/reply to the appropriate sections, as with @ianswett and @MikeBishop's suggestions.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1721,7 +1721,12 @@ it can associate the peer's response with the corresponding PATH_CHALLENGE.
 ## Path Validation Responses
 
 On receiving a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, an endpoint MUST respond immediately by
-echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame.
+echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame,
+unless it has PATH_RESPONSE frames buffered for the same destination connection
+ID and wishes to limit memory consumption.

Added text for this and removed the "buffered" sentence.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1721,7 +1721,12 @@ it can associate the peer's response with the corresponding PATH_CHALLENGE.
 ## Path Validation Responses
 
 On receiving a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, an endpoint MUST respond immediately by
-echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame.
+echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame,
+unless it has PATH_RESPONSE frames buffered for the same destination connection
+ID and wishes to limit memory consumption.
+
+An endpoint MUST NOT store or retransmit a PATH_RESPONSE frame, as a new

Changed (updated, and thanks @martinthomson!)

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This latest commit reintroduces the need to be aware ofther other challenge frames in a packet. @martinthomson sensibly removed that in the previous commit.

I ought to suffice to respond at most once per frame and say SHOULD not send more than one challenge per packet.

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Added a reference to the retransmission of information section (bringing that closer to the relevant "what to do with these frames bits" is most of the point of this PR), should cover the remaining conversations here.

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If we want a single/sided SHOULD, I'm happy with that. I'd also prefer to avoid being aware of multiple frames in a packet. Will change.

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@erickinnear pushed 2 commits.

  • 950ab22 Merge branch 'master' into dont_retransmit_path_response
  • bef1765 Remove requirement on responders to PATH_CHALLENGE

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----==_mimepart_5d03e4605bac7_7f3b3fb0894cd960176725-- From nobody Fri Jun 14 11:45:27 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E12CF12011C for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2019 11:45:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id txZjQAo9nKBw for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2019 11:45:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-21.smtp.github.com (out-21.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.204]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3A0AD1200E9 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2019 11:45:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2019 11:45:23 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560537923; bh=s4/uyXMQ1t0An32RiKxeJpDVzgp83OQWhGKMgcDRIBM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=H7tNFLu9lpsAqfXYfpn6LOpP+mDAPJGYI/WZJSTD4bhlNiX3zqmG8QYA8ttF2IyZ3 Qkb6+T1flSQh5Hj/Ei0D93H2B9IViN/eJ1pX007BEucaBQVQvtndqRFFIfFvmc/bW6 kWcLYMzrW3cI+Cu1Cs5qmBDPb2AIh8XawFLd4+EE= From: David Schinazi Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Don't store or retransmit PATH_RESPONSE frames, avoid buffering (#2729) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d03eb432a9a0_46243f9c5aacd95c192439"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: DavidSchinazi X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2019 18:45:26 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d03eb432a9a0_46243f9c5aacd95c192439 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DavidSchinazi approved this pull request. Latest text LGTM. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2729#pullrequestreview-250065898 ----==_mimepart_5d03eb432a9a0_46243f9c5aacd95c192439 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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This PR removes the text about sending keys. Perhaps we should keep and one set for protecting packets and add details about what the endpoint installs the updated keys means - I think you mean the endpoint installs the updated receive keys and if the packet decrypts successfully also updates sending keys.

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Fair point in both cases. Is there anything about the PR I should change, or should I merge it before it gets worse, as Martin said?

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I think you should merge it!

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(#2143) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d042fcac9c6b_a143f9e052cd96c1067b9"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: erickinnear X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2019 23:37:50 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d042fcac9c6b_a143f9e052cd96c1067b9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @mnot Yes, just been blocked behind other things (like WWDC). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@ianswett To your question above, we don't validate the PATH_RESPONSE's address vs. the PATH_CHALLENGE destination anymore since #2637 (Stop requiring remote address to match during path validation).

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----==_mimepart_5d04300e7f1ec_444a3fa2d90cd96834946-- From nobody Fri Jun 14 17:26:42 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABACF1200E5 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2019 17:26:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id peYTJz-YWZ4n for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2019 17:26:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DCCE8120047 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2019 17:26:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2019 17:26:38 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560558398; bh=osmDYlSWIhIl+f4rCwzat+iQPibmvoqrGT1ghUShtXk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=jMjspOpc/dyTTIrW6NBXhdV+iaX0kUvyhDilmm/tyM7YsyLDiNfOxBeR6FVk3McRA 4eImwA9G96L5IMTiQvGIcwhx/aClNCC1KljNVEy12/uNRHKYd1B008YBFm5xJrqTvg eo3T0ncFE9EDISlCkyoQNXZA7aLplxj9mDPPNGFA= From: Rui Paulo Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Use a higher seed RTT for new paths (#2789) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d043b3e8e00d_46753f9b37ecd968241993"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: rpaulo X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 00:26:42 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d043b3e8e00d_46753f9b37ecd968241993 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I also don't see where RFC6298 specifies 1.5x. Can you clarify @gorryfair? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2789#issuecomment-502317739 ----==_mimepart_5d043b3e8e00d_46753f9b37ecd968241993 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I also don't see where RFC6298 specifies 1.5x. Can you clarify @gorryfair?

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Fixes #2546

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1743,6 +1744,10 @@ it can associate the peer's response with the corresponding PATH_CHALLENGE.
 On receiving a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, an endpoint MUST respond immediately by
 echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame.
 
+An endpoint MUST NOT send more than one PATH_RESPONSE frame in response to one
+PATH_CHALLENGE frame (see {{retransmission-of-information}}).  A new
+PATH_CHALLENGE frame will be sent if another PATH_RESPONSE frame is needed.

Suggested rephrase: The peer is expected to send more PATH_CHALLENGE frames as necessary to evoke additional PATH_RESPONSE frames.

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Isn't this just moving up one level in the inception layer?
Now you must not send ACK+PING too often to prevent an indefinite feedback loop?

Why not just say that an ACK should not ACK / PAD only frames for more than a fraction of the packets to avoid feedback loops and to ensure eventual reduction of gap accounting?

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----==_mimepart_5d04aee860800_656a3fee9a2cd9686709a0-- From nobody Sat Jun 15 02:10:05 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEE9B12006F for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2019 02:10:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.391 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.391 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id suFRzhn4VdnC for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2019 02:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA39D120020 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2019 02:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 02:10:00 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560589800; bh=Q/cdKzuiuS/WHnsttUPdLLQKowNFM/UN9FIgecpxXtk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Hzm4rYic8/zgb9UwsYoTJl5xUDiJ37H1IcjwT2sfPlyR2ozA4idDtDS2p3KIP6JIB FpYMB20mCL7QY14hdi+JDsHOUpRj6Pxx4YrnRf9gXWg+ffykUVY6N/h0jEzsdpxlAu Dg7G+UcoBra+NxeETI2bnBJK1CSvG+0Vu2Qwj1AE= From: Dominic Guana Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Junk QUIC High Hardware Usage (#2795) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d04b5e8c8da5_1a6f3f8e942cd9605324bb"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: jobs-git X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 09:10:04 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d04b5e8c8da5_1a6f3f8e942cd9605324bb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit According to research by Google, hardware usage using QUIC can reach upto 3.5x that of TCP+TLS, when optimized, this can be reduced to 2x hardware usage that of TCP+TLS. This means that if QUIC/HTTP3 becomes a new standard that needs about 2x the hardware needed to operate the Internet in the whole world. In addition, this means that it will consume two times more energy than the current energy usage. In summary, QUIC is 2x costly and 2x more crippling to the World Wide Network. Here is the research article https://static.googleusercontent.com/media/research.google.com/en//pubs/archive/46403.pdf -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2795 ----==_mimepart_5d04b5e8c8da5_1a6f3f8e942cd9605324bb Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

According to research by Google, hardware usage using QUIC can reach upto 3.5x that of TCP+TLS, when optimized, this can be reduced to 2x hardware usage that of TCP+TLS.

This means that if QUIC/HTTP3 becomes a new standard that needs about 2x the hardware needed to operate the Internet in the whole world. In addition, this means that it will consume two times more energy than the current energy usage.

In summary, QUIC is 2x costly and 2x more crippling to the World Wide Network.

Here is the research article

https://static.googleusercontent.com/media/research.google.com/en//pubs/archive/46403.pdf

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If true, this only remains true until we have better hardware offload functionality.

I see nothing actionable for the WG here.

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Closed #2795.

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The word 'it' was used to refer to clients.

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I just wanted to come back to this PR for a moment.

Seeing as we are now seemingly moving closer to HTTP/2 with the re-introduction of exclusive priorities and sending PRIORITY frames on the control stream, I feel that maybe there might be room for this to be re-considered.

I originally proposed it as a counterpart to #2700 that was much more closely aligned to the typical H2 setup. Now that the Orphan Placeholder has been merged, I think it makes sense to consider the 0-weight semantics in a broader setting. While it is still a departure from HTTP/2 in general, I feel it's close enough to be considered in the QUIC wg.

(sidenote: it seems that the nodes under the orphan placeholder are still sent in Round Robin fashion rather than FIFO, which I thought we agreed is sub-optimal as default behaviour. Any idea if this was intentional @MikeBishop? If the orphan gets FIFO semantics, this aligns with the 0-weighting in this proposal).

If there is interest, I can look into maybe also incorporating @DaanDeMeyer's suggestion #2723 (comment) of making it symmetrical for weights of 255 as well.

I am currently finishing up a body of experiments comparing various prioritization schemes, and this is one of them. I should have some concrete numbers to share in the coming weeks. If it is decided that we do not immediately want to make progress on this (e.g., it should be decided by the HTTP wg), I would appreciate the PR to remain open until we can discuss the measurement results.

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@DavidSchinazi Thank you for the comments.

Perhaps we should keep and one set for protecting packets

I've updated the text to clarify that only one send keys is needed at a time (it's a fact, not something we need to enforce or encourage), and have changed "MAY limit to two" to "SHOULD retain at least two receive keys." Technically this changes the RFC 2119 keyword, but I think that the intent of the text is better clarified with the change.

and add details about what the endpoint installs the updated keys means - I think you mean the endpoint installs the updated receive keys and if the packet decrypts successfully also updates sending keys.

I've changed the text to "the endpoint installs the updated receive keys." What needs to be done when the receive key is updated is clarified later on, in the paragraph that starts with "If the packet can be decrypted and authenticated using the updated key and IV...". I think that the text flows better now.

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@MikeBishop That certainly reduces the information being potentially exposed to the attacker every one bit per key update.

But no less than that for example when an attacker injects two packets slightly more frequent than every 3 PTO, with the only difference between the two packets being the value of the KEY_PHASE bit. In such an attack scenario, the attacker can tell which of the two packets caused the calculation of the updated key for every key update.

Admittedly, the leak is tiny; but I am not sure if it is tiny enough that we can ignore.

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As suggested earlier, I'd still prefer a change from

Therefore, an endpoint SHOULD NOT initiate
a key update for some time after it has last updated keys; the RECOMMENDED time
period is three times the PTO.

to using "at least 3 PTO", or "no less than 3 PTO", since it otherwise reads as if frequent key updates are recommended:

Therefore, an endpoint SHOULD NOT initiate
a key update for some time after it has last updated keys; the RECOMMENDED time
period is no less than times the PTO.

Perhaps also add, "and typically significantly more, depending on the TLS security parameters:

Therefore, an endpoint SHOULD NOT initiate
a key update for some time after it has last updated keys; the RECOMMENDED time
period is no less than times the PTO, and typically significantly more, within the TLS security parameters of the cipher in use.

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Older keys can be -discarded. Updating keys multiple times rapidly can cause packets to be -effectively lost if packets are significantly reordered. Therefore, an -endpoint SHOULD NOT initiate a key update for some time after it has last -updated keys; the RECOMMENDED time period is three times the PTO. This avoids -valid reordered packets being dropped by the peer as a result of the peer -discarding older keys. - -A receiving endpoint detects an update when the KEY_PHASE bit does not match -what it is expecting. It creates a new secret (see Section 7.2 of {{!TLS13}}) -and the corresponding read key and IV using the KDF function provided by TLS. -The header protection key is not updated. +While only one send key is used at a time, an endpoint SHOULD retain at least +two receive keys during key update so that it can unprotect packets arriving During *a* key update. Or during key update*s*. > -discarded. Updating keys multiple times rapidly can cause packets to be -effectively lost if packets are significantly reordered. Therefore, an -endpoint SHOULD NOT initiate a key update for some time after it has last -updated keys; the RECOMMENDED time period is three times the PTO. This avoids -valid reordered packets being dropped by the peer as a result of the peer -discarding older keys. - -A receiving endpoint detects an update when the KEY_PHASE bit does not match -what it is expecting. It creates a new secret (see Section 7.2 of {{!TLS13}}) -and the corresponding read key and IV using the KDF function provided by TLS. -The header protection key is not updated. +While only one send key is used at a time, an endpoint SHOULD retain at least +two receive keys during key update so that it can unprotect packets arriving +out-of-order. + +An endpoint can detect which receive key to use by tracking the lowest packet s/can detect/determines > -discarding older keys. - -A receiving endpoint detects an update when the KEY_PHASE bit does not match -what it is expecting. It creates a new secret (see Section 7.2 of {{!TLS13}}) -and the corresponding read key and IV using the KDF function provided by TLS. -The header protection key is not updated. +While only one send key is used at a time, an endpoint SHOULD retain at least +two receive keys during key update so that it can unprotect packets arriving +out-of-order. + +An endpoint can detect which receive key to use by tracking the lowest packet +number among the packets received with the currently active key phase. If a +packet is received that has a different KEY_PHASE bit and a lower packet number +than this value, the endpoint uses the old receive keys for unprotecting the +packet, if these keys are still available. If the packet has a higher packet +number, the endpoint installs the new receive keys by calculating the next s/derives/installs. 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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -1162,19 +1162,24 @@ number sent with each KEY_PHASE, and the highest acknowledged packet number
 in the 1-RTT space: once the latter is higher than or equal to the former,
 another key update can be initiated.
 
-Endpoints MAY limit the number of keys they retain to two sets for removing
-packet protection and one set for protecting packets.  Older keys can be
-discarded.  Updating keys multiple times rapidly can cause packets to be
-effectively lost if packets are significantly reordered.  Therefore, an
-endpoint SHOULD NOT initiate a key update for some time after it has last
-updated keys; the RECOMMENDED time period is three times the PTO. This avoids
-valid reordered packets being dropped by the peer as a result of the peer
-discarding older keys.
-
-A receiving endpoint detects an update when the KEY_PHASE bit does not match
-what it is expecting.  It creates a new secret (see Section 7.2 of {{!TLS13}})
-and the corresponding read key and IV using the KDF function provided by TLS.
-The header protection key is not updated.
+While only one send key is used at a time, an endpoint SHOULD retain at least
+two receive keys during key update so that it can unprotect packets arriving

During a key update. Or during key updates.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> -discarded.  Updating keys multiple times rapidly can cause packets to be
-effectively lost if packets are significantly reordered.  Therefore, an
-endpoint SHOULD NOT initiate a key update for some time after it has last
-updated keys; the RECOMMENDED time period is three times the PTO. This avoids
-valid reordered packets being dropped by the peer as a result of the peer
-discarding older keys.
-
-A receiving endpoint detects an update when the KEY_PHASE bit does not match
-what it is expecting.  It creates a new secret (see Section 7.2 of {{!TLS13}})
-and the corresponding read key and IV using the KDF function provided by TLS.
-The header protection key is not updated.
+While only one send key is used at a time, an endpoint SHOULD retain at least
+two receive keys during key update so that it can unprotect packets arriving
+out-of-order.
+
+An endpoint can detect which receive key to use by tracking the lowest packet

s/can detect/determines

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> -discarding older keys.
-
-A receiving endpoint detects an update when the KEY_PHASE bit does not match
-what it is expecting.  It creates a new secret (see Section 7.2 of {{!TLS13}})
-and the corresponding read key and IV using the KDF function provided by TLS.
-The header protection key is not updated.
+While only one send key is used at a time, an endpoint SHOULD retain at least
+two receive keys during key update so that it can unprotect packets arriving
+out-of-order.
+
+An endpoint can detect which receive key to use by tracking the lowest packet
+number among the packets received with the currently active key phase.  If a
+packet is received that has a different KEY_PHASE bit and a lower packet number
+than this value, the endpoint uses the old receive keys for unprotecting the
+packet, if these keys are still available.  If the packet has a higher packet
+number, the endpoint installs the new receive keys by calculating the next

s/derives/installs.

We don't want to change any state before authenticating the packet, as discussed in #2792.

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> -discarded.  Updating keys multiple times rapidly can cause packets to be
-effectively lost if packets are significantly reordered.  Therefore, an
-endpoint SHOULD NOT initiate a key update for some time after it has last
-updated keys; the RECOMMENDED time period is three times the PTO. This avoids
-valid reordered packets being dropped by the peer as a result of the peer
-discarding older keys.
-
-A receiving endpoint detects an update when the KEY_PHASE bit does not match
-what it is expecting.  It creates a new secret (see Section 7.2 of {{!TLS13}})
-and the corresponding read key and IV using the KDF function provided by TLS.
-The header protection key is not updated.
+While only one send key is used at a time, an endpoint SHOULD retain at least
+two receive keys during key update so that it can unprotect packets arriving
+out-of-order.
+
+An endpoint can detect which receive key to use by tracking the lowest packet

Thank you for the suggestions. Applied in 8ce0e91.

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> -discarding older keys.
-
-A receiving endpoint detects an update when the KEY_PHASE bit does not match
-what it is expecting.  It creates a new secret (see Section 7.2 of {{!TLS13}})
-and the corresponding read key and IV using the KDF function provided by TLS.
-The header protection key is not updated.
+While only one send key is used at a time, an endpoint SHOULD retain at least
+two receive keys during key update so that it can unprotect packets arriving
+out-of-order.
+
+An endpoint can detect which receive key to use by tracking the lowest packet
+number among the packets received with the currently active key phase.  If a
+packet is received that has a different KEY_PHASE bit and a lower packet number
+than this value, the endpoint uses the old receive keys for unprotecting the
+packet, if these keys are still available.  If the packet has a higher packet
+number, the endpoint installs the new receive keys by calculating the next

I am hesitant to make such a change because that creates a DoS vector against endpoint that retain only two receive keys (which we explicitly state as being allowed).

Rather, I think we should keep this PR editorial, and open a subsequent PR that addresses the issue at a later moment, after we conclude how to fix #2792.

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@marten-seemann commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> -discarding older keys.
-
-A receiving endpoint detects an update when the KEY_PHASE bit does not match
-what it is expecting.  It creates a new secret (see Section 7.2 of {{!TLS13}})
-and the corresponding read key and IV using the KDF function provided by TLS.
-The header protection key is not updated.
+While only one send key is used at a time, an endpoint SHOULD retain at least
+two receive keys during key update so that it can unprotect packets arriving
+out-of-order.
+
+An endpoint can detect which receive key to use by tracking the lowest packet
+number among the packets received with the currently active key phase.  If a
+packet is received that has a different KEY_PHASE bit and a lower packet number
+than this value, the endpoint uses the old receive keys for unprotecting the
+packet, if these keys are still available.  If the packet has a higher packet
+number, the endpoint installs the new receive keys by calculating the next

I think what I'm suggesting is compatible with the current text (and therefore also necessary to keep this PR editorial):

A receiving endpoint detects an update when the KEY_PHASE bit does not match what it is expecting. It creates a new secret (see Section 7.2 of [TLS13]) and the corresponding read key and IV using the KDF function provided by TLS. The header protection key is not updated.

If the packet can be decrypted and authenticated using the updated key and IV, then the keys the endpoint uses for packet protection are also updated.

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> -discarding older keys.
-
-A receiving endpoint detects an update when the KEY_PHASE bit does not match
-what it is expecting.  It creates a new secret (see Section 7.2 of {{!TLS13}})
-and the corresponding read key and IV using the KDF function provided by TLS.
-The header protection key is not updated.
+While only one send key is used at a time, an endpoint SHOULD retain at least
+two receive keys during key update so that it can unprotect packets arriving
+out-of-order.
+
+An endpoint can detect which receive key to use by tracking the lowest packet
+number among the packets received with the currently active key phase.  If a
+packet is received that has a different KEY_PHASE bit and a lower packet number
+than this value, the endpoint uses the old receive keys for unprotecting the
+packet, if these keys are still available.  If the packet has a higher packet
+number, the endpoint installs the new receive keys by calculating the next

To be clear, all of the options (deriving / creating / installing) come with the timing side channel.

What I've remarked here is about the key phase of the next packet being sent, after authentication of a packet with a higher key phase failed. That's I would prefer saying "derive" or "create" instead of "install".

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@kazuho commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> -discarding older keys.
-
-A receiving endpoint detects an update when the KEY_PHASE bit does not match
-what it is expecting.  It creates a new secret (see Section 7.2 of {{!TLS13}})
-and the corresponding read key and IV using the KDF function provided by TLS.
-The header protection key is not updated.
+While only one send key is used at a time, an endpoint SHOULD retain at least
+two receive keys during key update so that it can unprotect packets arriving
+out-of-order.
+
+An endpoint can detect which receive key to use by tracking the lowest packet
+number among the packets received with the currently active key phase.  If a
+packet is received that has a different KEY_PHASE bit and a lower packet number
+than this value, the endpoint uses the old receive keys for unprotecting the
+packet, if these keys are still available.  If the packet has a higher packet
+number, the endpoint installs the new receive keys by calculating the next

Ah. Thank you for the clarification. Updated the text and rearranged the following two paragraphs to better clarify when installation of the updated receive keys happen. PTAL.

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[ci skip] From nobody Mon Jun 17 08:21:27 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18DAA1200F7 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2019 08:21:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.605 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.605 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rbMSPrXp_o25 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2019 08:21:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-18.smtp.github.com (out-18.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B4EA71200F5 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2019 08:21:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2019 08:21:24 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560784884; bh=pGyrIqPkPber7FV3tqkGPD7CZYeqyPP2VvRLEziEdXE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=xGb08+XQmu3zvq2FrO0ZdDXMrXLM3id1qQErrv03qtp7DZruGUGek9w27FOL8UmPv FWlD02b1l9LbCe9QPRG2zPpWUJrsu/WlgWh1UhesU9hvJtxilPl2jP43QfcF/vbHa6 fWXKAXce0JDZmBBQRiy2NY8CNFzpiEoaz55Uw76Q= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clarify ACK of ACKs and bundling a PING (#2794) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d07aff4b1fb1_62553fd8afccd9644933f1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2019 15:21:27 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d07aff4b1fb1_62553fd8afccd9644933f1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @mikkelfj My past experience has been that it's better if the sender of ACKs is in control of how often they want an ACK in response. There are a number of packet tracking/ACKing algorithms which never require ACKs of ACK-only packets, and I think we should accommodate those. Making the receiver of ACKs guess how often to ACK ACKs is a problem that's impossible to get right, and as @janaiyengar said on the issue, one can never rely on any receiver behavior regarding when they'll ACK ACKs, so it's more robust if the sender is in control. I will add normative text about not including a PING with every ACK. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2794#issuecomment-502728738 ----==_mimepart_5d07aff4b1fb1_62553fd8afccd9644933f1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@mikkelfj My past experience has been that it's better if the sender of ACKs is in control of how often they want an ACK in response. There are a number of packet tracking/ACKing algorithms which never require ACKs of ACK-only packets, and I think we should accommodate those.

Making the receiver of ACKs guess how often to ACK ACKs is a problem that's impossible to get right, and as @janaiyengar said on the issue, one can never rely on any receiver behavior regarding when they'll ACK ACKs, so it's more robust if the sender is in control.

I will add normative text about not including a PING with every ACK.

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I reread 6298 and I also can't find the 1.5 text. Can you point out which text you have in mind?

The goal is not to base the new path's congestion control properties on the previous path, but if there was a PATH_CHALLENGE/RESPONSE before migrating, then it's ok to use that to seed the initial_rtt.

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I like the new text about send keys, thanks @kazuho !

However, the change from

Endpoints MAY limit the number of keys they retain to two sets

to

an endpoint SHOULD retain at least two receive keys

is not as obvious to me.

The algorithm you describe actually uses 3 receive keys: you have the old one, the current one, and the new one. The new algorithm only overwrites the old keys with the new ones if decryption succeeds, which requires keeping 3 keys in memory while you're decrypting. The minimal algorithm immediately overwrites the old key when receiving the new packet, and that only requires keeping two keys in memory. It's not possible for this to work safely while only saving one set of keys. That's why the old text mentioned that you MAY go as low as 2, but it's not possible to go lower. If you want to change the phrasing, then this should be a MUST as opposed to a SHOULD. Perhaps MUST >= 2, SHOULD >= 3 and then you describe the 3-key algorithm? But then we'd probably want to also describe the 2-key algorithm.

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----==_mimepart_5d07bfafcdc84_33d3f91bcecd96029922f-- From nobody Mon Jun 17 09:50:03 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A4241202A9 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2019 09:50:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.02 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.02 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.415, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VPO63cCz1tLk for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2019 09:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D3C32120092 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2019 09:50:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2019 09:49:59 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560790199; bh=cpa4EjIKp2l7dAexNa+Ftyd9fMJH9wJRbWHNKExgNVc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Dw/7IszWMjg3fCHO+mxABmeOa08XBDMihcz4BLzoedElLsQiPIR1Rq5cAOOr2RFM5 frrPXY33GbJrW0wFktrPY4cSi1EtRHh3i3Q269DyUvpRU3P2PyQlHevRUiJKhXoPmC XF7bDOGpuBOammfKE8EO8DmTXqTGv/vHJgcMXdbc= From: David Schinazi Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] If you want a Stateless Reset you need to send a much larger packet than before (#2770) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d07c4b7d8b17_7cdc3fa240ccd964836896"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: DavidSchinazi X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2019 16:50:02 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d07c4b7d8b17_7cdc3fa240ccd964836896 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >From an offline conversation with @RyanAtGoogle , when client connection IDs are in use, Stateless Resets are inherently distinguishable from regular traffic because they do not carry the previously-used client connection ID. One might say that they could be confused for a change in connection ID, which is true. But let's assume we just changed from an 18 byte client connection ID to a 4-byte connection ID (which is specifically allowed by the spec), then that new packet is indistinguishable from a stateless reset. So I propose that instead of having a minimum required size for stateless resets of 21 and a recommended minimum of 39, we can just say the minimum required size is 25. The important value here is the minimum non-zero connection ID length, not the maximum connection ID length. This also means that the conversation about changing the maximum connection ID length is now orthogonal to stateless resets. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2770#issuecomment-502763574 ----==_mimepart_5d07c4b7d8b17_7cdc3fa240ccd964836896 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

From an offline conversation with @RyanAtGoogle , when client connection IDs are in use, Stateless Resets are inherently distinguishable from regular traffic because they do not carry the previously-used client connection ID. One might say that they could be confused for a change in connection ID, which is true. But let's assume we just changed from an 18 byte client connection ID to a 4-byte connection ID (which is specifically allowed by the spec), then that new packet is indistinguishable from a stateless reset.

So I propose that instead of having a minimum required size for stateless resets of 21 and a recommended minimum of 39, we can just say the minimum required size is 25. The important value here is the minimum non-zero connection ID length, not the maximum connection ID length.

This also means that the conversation about changing the maximum connection ID length is now orthogonal to stateless resets.

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OK, that makes sense.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1743,6 +1744,10 @@ it can associate the peer's response with the corresponding PATH_CHALLENGE.
 On receiving a PATH_CHALLENGE frame, an endpoint MUST respond immediately by
 echoing the data contained in the PATH_CHALLENGE frame in a PATH_RESPONSE frame.
 
+An endpoint MUST NOT send more than one PATH_RESPONSE frame in response to one
+PATH_CHALLENGE frame (see {{retransmission-of-information}}).  A new
+PATH_CHALLENGE frame will be sent if another PATH_RESPONSE frame is needed.

Nice! Updated in both places for consistency (3c0d1f7).

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----==_mimepart_5d07ffded5eb1_70fb3fde5f0cd96010669c-- From nobody Mon Jun 17 14:36:12 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BBD912004F for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2019 14:36:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YrGbqVX02Hg6 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2019 14:36:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-21.smtp.github.com (out-21.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.204]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F06C1120191 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2019 14:36:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2019 14:36:02 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560807362; bh=VSbEZW5sdJBYzei6zk1y1BkodhqQAQbVjGi/2C97tHc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Klh8s/OuYKMlGLF4hff2NmlRBRcaZvfTQ/JRnXufgOs2wwPjOma5sTeydk8oVSqrx +PgVaCLqnXCIxEEx3ZtK52sPge3gacER4M60avWsVs/qb2vNRPUvMEs9A0RYLTdEMa azB16sw/B/TjB3ddmExjVcxZZXk3PkCA4qZOo7Ns= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/3 has less concurrency than HTTP/2 (#2787) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d0807c2d1f57_60f63f96b64cd95c951f9"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2019 21:36:09 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d0807c2d1f57_60f63f96b64cd95c951f9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm more inclined toward that as well. I agree that the recommendation is to allow ~100 concurrent requests, and transport implementations could decide to consider it safe to re-issue the stream at different points in the request lifecycle. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2787#issuecomment-502860138 ----==_mimepart_5d0807c2d1f57_60f63f96b64cd95c951f9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I'm more inclined toward that as well. I agree that the recommendation is to allow ~100 concurrent requests, and transport implementations could decide to consider it safe to re-issue the stream at different points in the request lifecycle.

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I think its important to keep this recommended level of effective parallelism - deployment with HTTP/2 (and DoH) has seen these recommendations easily hit.

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----==_mimepart_5d08092ccbbde_5f823fb2e50cd96015756e-- From nobody Mon Jun 17 17:08:11 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E087120336 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2019 17:08:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SrwPqCf1xEnW for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2019 17:08:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 16922120183 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2019 17:08:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2019 17:08:05 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560816485; bh=Of/C6sYlcw/smQA/uESMo85Sz/Q73MEcJcz8zHNxIgA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=coa0r8gVsQlYwyOBm6bbrCgn7x8zEDPHxj7hvsPda107YwPI3klVJRZ7hchXmiAZc Hgxr/j24KoowbUMf2wXfLmkpfnjanX+sOOzPBpm1aNo3HQdhN440/6d80ZE2Nil9U7 zvAvJdjg6NxftWirYg7EcFz50Fh4l82b381bsLEY= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Receiver's behavior on key update (#2791) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d082b65e1a23_549a3ff39b0cd96413151"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2019 00:08:09 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d082b65e1a23_549a3ff39b0cd96413151 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @DavidSchinazi Thank you for your comments. As I am uncertain what the correct approach is, I have so far tried to keep this PR a clarification of what's already written. #2792 is the issue that discusses the problem in the current algorithm. > The algorithm you describe actually uses 3 receive keys: you have the old one, the current one, and the new one. The new algorithm only overwrites the old keys with the new ones if decryption succeeds, which requires keeping 3 keys in memory while you're decrypting. The minimal algorithm immediately overwrites the old key when receiving the new packet, and that only requires keeping two keys in memory. Current text states that a new key is computed every time when a received packet specifies an epoch for which a key has not been installed. This process is repeated until packet unprotection using that key succeeds and the key gets installed. Quoting from the current text: _"A receiving endpoint detects an update when the KEY_PHASE bit does not match what it is expecting. It creates a new secret (see Section 7.2 of [TLS13]) and the corresponding read key and IV using the KDF function provided by TLS."_ So at the moment, the text only requires an endpoint to retain 2 keys in state, and that is in line with "MAY limit to 2 keys." However, such algorithm does have side channel vulnerability, hence we need to discuss how to fix the issue (see #2792). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2791#issuecomment-502895107 ----==_mimepart_5d082b65e1a23_549a3ff39b0cd96413151 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@DavidSchinazi Thank you for your comments. As I am uncertain what the correct approach is, I have so far tried to keep this PR a clarification of what's already written.

#2792 is the issue that discusses the problem in the current algorithm.

The algorithm you describe actually uses 3 receive keys: you have the old one, the current one, and the new one. The new algorithm only overwrites the old keys with the new ones if decryption succeeds, which requires keeping 3 keys in memory while you're decrypting. The minimal algorithm immediately overwrites the old key when receiving the new packet, and that only requires keeping two keys in memory.

Current text states that a new key is computed every time when a received packet specifies an epoch for which a key has not been installed. This process is repeated until packet unprotection using that key succeeds and the key gets installed. Quoting from the current text: "A receiving endpoint detects an update when the KEY_PHASE bit does not match what it is expecting. It creates a new secret (see Section 7.2 of [TLS13]) and the corresponding read key and IV using the KDF function provided by TLS."

So at the moment, the text only requires an endpoint to retain 2 keys in state, and that is in line with "MAY limit to 2 keys." However, such algorithm does have side channel vulnerability, hence we need to discuss how to fix the issue (see #2792).

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I've now removed ACK-only from the transport text, and replaced it with ACK-eliciting.

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  • d07c072 SHOULD at least 32, acknowledge that some might support zero

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The client only replaces a token sent in Initial packets when receiving a Retry.
NEW_TOKEN is an orthogonal mechanism to provide tickets for subsequent connections, and doesn't have any effect on the current connection.

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The spec doesn't define what is a client is supposed to do when it receives multiple NEW_TOKEN frames.

There seem to be multiple reasonable ways to handle this situation:

  1. A client could always use the oldest token first. This would allow the client to establish multiple connections at the same time.
  2. A client could replace any old tokens when receiving a new token. This has the advantage that the most recently issued token will (presumably) have the longest life time. Furthermore, if the server encodes connection statistics (RTT, cwnd, etc.) into the ticket, using the newest ticket would provide it with the most recent data.

From the Slack discussion, a better way might be a combination of these two:
When establishing a new connection, use the most recently obtained token first. When establishing another connection to the same server (before receiving a new NEW_TOKEN), use an older token. Client might then want to remember n tokens per endpoint, if they expect to establish n new connections simultaneously (or a few more than n, depending on the network conditions, to account for failed connection establishments).

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The server doesn't pick a version. The server only picks the application protocol from what the client offered, and it might do that based on the QUIC version that the client picked.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2883,16 +2884,21 @@ needing acknowledgement are received.  The sender can use the receiver's
 Strategies and implications of the frequency of generating acknowledgments are
 discussed in more detail in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.
 
+ACK-only packets are only sent in response to ACK-eliciting packets, so a
+receiver that is only sending ACK frames will only receive acknowledgements
+for its packets if the sender includes them in packets with non-ACK frames.

This section is the only use of ACK-eliciting, so I define it at the beginning of the section now.

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This looks better. I'll add an observation point that RFC 6585 says a 431 can be generated "when a single header field is at fault.". I don't think we need any specific text there to handle it.

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I still think we can improve this, the MUST stems from avoiding an attacker messing with the KEY_PHASE bit, not from out of order packets. Perhaps something like the following? ``` While only one send key is used at a time, an endpoint MUST retain at least two receive keys (the "current" key and "future" key) during a key update to prevent attackers from triggering key updates. An endpoint SHOULD retain a third receive key (the "past" key) so that it can unprotect older packets that arrive out-of-order. Packets received with the current active key phase are unprotected using the "current" key. When a packet arrives with the opposite key phase, an endpoint determines which receive key to use by tracking the lowest packet number among the packets received with the currently active key phase. If a packet is received that has a different KEY_PHASE bit and a lower packet number than this value, the endpoint uses the "past" receive key for unprotecting the packet, if that key is available. If the packet has a higher packet number, the endpoint derives the "future" receive key by calculating the next secret (see Section 7.2 of {{!TLS13}}), the corresponding read key and IV using the KDF function provided by TLS. The header protection key is not updated. If the packet can be decrypted and authenticated using the "future" receive key and IV, then the endpoint switches to the next key phase, installs the "current" key as its "past" key, and installs the "future" key as its "current" key. The endpoint also updates its send key to match its "current" receive key. The next packet sent by the endpoint MUST then use the new send key. Once an endpoint has sent a packet encrypted with a given key phase, it MUST NOT send a packet encrypted with an older key phase. Updating keys multiple times rapidly can cause packets to be effectively lost if packets are significantly reordered. Therefore, an endpoint SHOULD NOT initiate a key update for some time after it has last updated keys; the RECOMMENDED time period is three times the PTO. This avoids valid reordered packets being dropped by the peer as a result of the peer discarding older keys. ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2791#issuecomment-503234742 ----==_mimepart_5d0920055afaa_15ba3f9441acd9649421c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Thanks @kazuho. I still think we can improve this, the MUST stems from avoiding an attacker messing with the KEY_PHASE bit, not from out of order packets. Perhaps something like the following?

While only one send key is used at a time, an endpoint MUST retain at least two
receive keys (the "current" key and "future" key) during a key update to prevent
attackers from triggering key updates. An endpoint SHOULD retain a third
receive key (the "past" key) so that it can unprotect older packets that arrive
out-of-order.

Packets received with the current active key phase are unprotected using the
"current" key. When a packet arrives with the opposite key phase, an endpoint
determines which receive key to use by tracking the lowest packet number
among the packets received with the currently active key phase.  If a
packet is received that has a different KEY_PHASE bit and a lower packet number
than this value, the endpoint uses the "past" receive key for unprotecting the
packet, if that key is available.  If the packet has a higher packet number, the
endpoint derives the "future" receive key by calculating the next secret
(see Section 7.2 of {{!TLS13}}), the corresponding read key and IV using the KDF
function provided by TLS.  The header protection key is not updated.

If the packet can be decrypted and authenticated using the "future" receive key
and IV, then the endpoint switches to the next key phase, installs the "current"
key as its "past" key, and installs the "future" key as its "current" key.  The
endpoint also updates its send key to match its "current" receive key. The next
packet sent by the endpoint MUST then use the new send key.  Once an
endpoint has sent a packet encrypted with a given key phase, it MUST NOT
send a packet encrypted with an older key phase.

Updating keys multiple times rapidly can cause packets to be effectively lost if
packets are significantly reordered.  Therefore, an endpoint SHOULD NOT initiate
a key update for some time after it has last updated keys; the RECOMMENDED time
period is three times the PTO.  This avoids valid reordered packets being
dropped by the peer as a result of the peer discarding older keys.

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Fixes #2737

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Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2019 21:26:50 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: bba4f7b2b423d2cf5b1d95c9d0240ca8055ab95c https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/bba4f7b2b423d2cf5b1d95c9d0240ca8055ab95c Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2019-06-18 (Tue, 18 Jun 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- Discuss max-header-list-size from the other side (#2774) * Discuss max-header-list-size from the other side * Import RFC7540 recommendation to 431 on oversize headers; fixes #2775 * Hop-by-hop * Header terminology * Connection (probably) won't blow up From nobody Tue Jun 18 14:26:59 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C58B41202A1 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2019 14:26:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.391 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.391 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ukz_9FcEcrfV for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2019 14:26:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8C1C012001B for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2019 14:26:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2019 14:26:55 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560893215; bh=7ECxNsEcSSJiNplvo1khWlZsOC4A1V3RybapAaSL7T0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=hrST9mb5Y55nI3sOq+VYaVxp9277+vD6D7ETbRxrWdX+vn9e9jyZHz1JSMIIukhkG R9deA6S7EOgPHDEc7eJW7UVi6U8ImS5E5ySbTAn3PsifJ7gWv5rrf/Vwc/ig+NdnQP aIok4IK+YWl503HsVY4uuFQpNphGhpPrSTC6IjJY= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Semantics of SETTINGS_MAX_HEADER_LIST_SIZE (#2516) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d09571fc43fa_6f253fbd574cd96c4516f"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2019 21:26:58 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d09571fc43fa_6f253fbd574cd96c4516f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Closed #2516 via #2774. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In preparation for a redo of #2655 You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2804 -- Commit Summary -- * Move Retry and Version Negotiation -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md (27) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2804.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2804.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In preparation for a redo of #2655

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2804

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  • Move Retry and Version Negotiation

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Closes #2180. Commit: 786cbf4ccfd1eaf5f593137bb91c49ceebd06902 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/786cbf4ccfd1eaf5f593137bb91c49ceebd06902 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-05-22 (Wed, 22 May 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Keep the same packet numbers after Retry This isn't just for 0-RTT. 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Merged #2803 into master.

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Fixed with #2803. Thanks @marten-seemann.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2304,13 +2304,25 @@ the application requests that the connection be closed.  The application
 protocol can use an CONNECTION_CLOSE frame with an appropriate error code to
 signal closure.
 
-If the connection has been successfully established, endpoints MUST send any
-CONNECTION_CLOSE frames in a 1-RTT packet.  Prior to connection establishment a
-peer might not have 1-RTT keys, so endpoints SHOULD send CONNECTION_CLOSE frames
-in a Handshake packet.  If the endpoint does not have Handshake keys, or it is
-not certain that the peer has Handshake keys, it MAY send CONNECTION_CLOSE
-frames in an Initial packet.  If multiple packets are sent, they can be
-coalesced (see {{packet-coalesce}}) to facilitate retransmission.
+When sending CONNECTION_CLOSE, the goal is to ensure that a peer will process
+the frame.  Generally, this means sending the frame in a packet with the highest
+level of packet protection to avoid the packet being discarded.  However, during
+the handshake, it is possible that more advanced packet protection keys are not
+available to a peer, so the frame MAY be replicated in a packet that uses a
+lower packet protection level.

If people want to fix this, please open a followup issue.

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----==_mimepart_5d0963b2d43c8_6d393f88baacd960492029-- From nobody Tue Jun 18 15:21:10 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0817F1202BE for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2019 15:21:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ksab3LFqH00P for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2019 15:21:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 819F012029C for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2019 15:21:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2019 15:21:04 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560896464; bh=KgGryR7d3NpxgwMkhVIxqwx/q7CCVXceSLz5LtsP8Vg=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=DmBuX1o4XL1u0dqUL4yuyXpAXc2fDHDD9eULgxeL/8EHn5gm4/k0fdkKDC458gcRu NOXmmPvC71v98YMdY3CjLo5H2XnmhhgWxYe3I8diixDQW1s+xfYk8qUh0zHeYPdN/E L21hkKhA90lpDq4JMCDYSeBtmWMzbuDtzTJyaZ7k= From: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] 958278: Clarify server CONNECTION_CLOSE with Handshake Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2019 22:21:08 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: 95827872f54e34d9ba9d5dfe5c611efe92666bb8 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/95827872f54e34d9ba9d5dfe5c611efe92666bb8 Author: ianswett Date: 2019-05-10 (Fri, 10 May 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Clarify server CONNECTION_CLOSE with Handshake No new normative text, but clarifies that if the server wants the client to process a connection close, it may have to send one in Initial and Handshake. Came up in discussion on #2541 Commit: 9bcc7fa068fdd7100c1f3bb5eff18184a3f09518 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9bcc7fa068fdd7100c1f3bb5eff18184a3f09518 Author: ianswett Date: 2019-05-10 (Fri, 10 May 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Co-Authored-By: Nick Banks Commit: ead6736c0daf7d2d90058a7eee0029f9a2f511f3 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ead6736c0daf7d2d90058a7eee0029f9a2f511f3 Author: ianswett Date: 2019-05-10 (Fri, 10 May 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Nick's comments. This now changes normative text. Commit: 96c89135a1889e5209bc38e64026735d187b50c0 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/96c89135a1889e5209bc38e64026735d187b50c0 Author: ianswett Date: 2019-05-12 (Sun, 12 May 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Co-Authored-By: Martin Thomson Commit: e70eff7103fa457e16158dbf03f21d44672e1d76 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e70eff7103fa457e16158dbf03f21d44672e1d76 Author: ianswett Date: 2019-05-12 (Sun, 12 May 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Commit: cfa8de6f77ce88c84136eac6dc91398ec1445680 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/cfa8de6f77ce88c84136eac6dc91398ec1445680 Author: ianswett Date: 2019-05-14 (Tue, 14 May 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Co-Authored-By: Jana Iyengar Commit: ab282cd9ed385732ecdef405f92e4840bfeee724 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ab282cd9ed385732ecdef405f92e4840bfeee724 Author: ianswett Date: 2019-05-14 (Tue, 14 May 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Commit: 1bb9ef09352cce9ed56c14058105a2029f111715 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1bb9ef09352cce9ed56c14058105a2029f111715 Author: ianswett Date: 2019-05-14 (Tue, 14 May 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Commit: 4079e66c3b6663c49ea6ba0d78ca6a184724eb2a https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4079e66c3b6663c49ea6ba0d78ca6a184724eb2a Author: ianswett Date: 2019-06-05 (Wed, 05 Jun 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Co-Authored-By: Jana Iyengar Commit: 9dfb614cec93c5b860ccd06fd7e6a3d3fdcd53ed https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9dfb614cec93c5b860ccd06fd7e6a3d3fdcd53ed Author: ianswett Date: 2019-06-05 (Wed, 05 Jun 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Co-Authored-By: Jana Iyengar Commit: 4029df2796f2426543d7becb051809a6ef94c262 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4029df2796f2426543d7becb051809a6ef94c262 Author: ianswett Date: 2019-06-05 (Wed, 05 Jun 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Co-Authored-By: MikkelFJ Commit: 68d1c8b3b1dd3b657de8a7b4580f7a8da0db509b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/68d1c8b3b1dd3b657de8a7b4580f7a8da0db509b Author: ianswett Date: 2019-06-05 (Wed, 05 Jun 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Co-Authored-By: MikkelFJ Commit: b669d0f7c51fa100e2c7c76fe6ddffa1e2c495d9 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b669d0f7c51fa100e2c7c76fe6ddffa1e2c495d9 Author: ianswett Date: 2019-06-05 (Wed, 05 Jun 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Co-Authored-By: MikkelFJ Commit: ce74eecbbc1228dc48a69b249126410eb597e0fa https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ce74eecbbc1228dc48a69b249126410eb597e0fa Author: ianswett Date: 2019-06-05 (Wed, 05 Jun 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Once -> After Commit: a981f677829327c37fb5fb68f95428932b5dca1b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a981f677829327c37fb5fb68f95428932b5dca1b Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-06-19 (Wed, 19 Jun 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #2688 from quicwg/ianswett-close-initial-handshake Clarify server CONNECTION_CLOSE with Handshake Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/6f5a6430607d...a981f6778293 From nobody Tue Jun 18 15:21:17 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B98631202BE for ; 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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We might just delete this tomorrow, but this is strictly better than what we have now. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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We might just delete this tomorrow, but this is strictly better than what we have now.

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Closed #2151 via #2688.

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Merged #2688 into master.

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----==_mimepart_5d0963d929e03_176c3ffc28ccd96851704e-- From nobody Tue Jun 18 15:22:27 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B854B1202BE for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2019 15:22:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Xzx6lpmKeOBs for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2019 15:22:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2800712029C for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2019 15:22:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2019 15:22:24 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560896544; bh=pu/Ase1e7hzC4jpWZCiV/fQDOkvr6L29ZC0StpWOl4k=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=JeZd+xUCBRnIFUihEiB8uFoZtMnrelh1X/fJhFnwCl++Pk/wqZNr12tkhDr5g/ELz wwh3X/+i/uRWStnWOS+0vEHB9RlwMbU+sfBt1hFBkl1VuNTLsDP7slXvzdvyOZY/ns Yaf1nc1P4yfnN6bKmqr3mdiVgy4uzeVen/edwZzs= From: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] 9ff341: Script updating gh-pages from a981f677. 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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Jun 18 15:23:03 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C83E91202D9 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2019 15:23:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QylDoOTgpLkE for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2019 15:23:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9FD7C1202BE for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2019 15:23:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2019 15:22:59 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560896579; bh=AflyWmUB6KOgVIRwGotoePq5OlmlLHv4y26XPjO2dSM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=STUlaP0w0eKjCckxLF6fA1OgPKQ7vB0yyOXvp9xM9ZlaD3hzAvHvnbxN3KbnSI/Nz FPk2br+tY2j8QVz2GYh8s/VYA9PVD4Ky+kpU4A36fDMd8vLTF0eYNL4cFlq3ttozRW squj9xXbGme0biNzBK3DxXfB9F5dsRwbWvkQ9DsE= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clarify the text recommending replacing CIDs when consumed (#2727) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d0964432b50d_17693ffc28ccd968486746"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2019 22:23:02 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d0964432b50d_17693ffc28ccd968486746 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This inverts the form of the recommendation, but doesn't really change the design. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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This inverts the form of the recommendation, but doesn't really change the design.

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Merged #2727 into master.

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@martinthomson approved this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  To limit ACK Ranges (see {{ack-ranges}}) to those that have not yet been
 received by the sender, the receiver SHOULD track which ACK frames have been
 acknowledged by its peer. The receiver SHOULD exclude already acknowledged
 packets from future ACK frames whenever these packets would unnecessarily
-contribute to the ACK frame size.
-
-Because ACK frames are not sent in response to ACK-only packets, a receiver that
-is only sending ACK frames will only receive acknowledgements for its packets if
-the sender includes them in packets with non-ACK frames.  A sender SHOULD bundle
-ACK frames with other frames when possible.
+contribute to the ACK frame size.  When the receiver is only sending non
+ACK-eliciting packets, it can bundle a PING with a fraction of them, such as one

non-ACK-eliciting?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2883,16 +2884,21 @@ needing acknowledgement are received.  The sender can use the receiver's
 Strategies and implications of the frequency of generating acknowledgments are
 discussed in more detail in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.
 
+ACK-only packets are only sent in response to ACK-eliciting packets, so a
+receiver that is only sending ACK frames will only receive acknowledgements
+for its packets if the sender includes them in packets with ACK-eliciting

An endpoint that is only sending ACK frames won't receive acknowledgments from its peer unless those acknowledgements are included in packets [...]

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The sender can use the receiver's Strategies and implications of the frequency of generating acknowledgments are discussed in more detail in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}. +ACK-only packets are only sent in response to ACK-eliciting packets, so a +receiver that is only sending ACK frames will only receive acknowledgements +for its packets if the sender includes them in packets with ACK-eliciting Done. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2794#discussion_r295057493 ----==_mimepart_5d0967d8baab9_2533ff294acd96c62299d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2883,16 +2884,21 @@ needing acknowledgement are received.  The sender can use the receiver's
 Strategies and implications of the frequency of generating acknowledgments are
 discussed in more detail in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.
 
+ACK-only packets are only sent in response to ACK-eliciting packets, so a
+receiver that is only sending ACK frames will only receive acknowledgements
+for its packets if the sender includes them in packets with ACK-eliciting

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HTTP/2 uses -HPACK ({{!RFC7541}}) for header compression, but QUIC's stream multiplexing -comes into some conflict with HPACK. A key goal of the design of QUIC is to -improve stream multiplexing relative to HTTP/2 by reducing head-of-line -blocking. If HPACK were used for HTTP/3, it would induce head-of-line -blocking due to built-in assumptions of a total ordering across frames on all -streams. - -QUIC is described in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}. The HTTP/3 mapping is described in -{{HTTP3}}. For a full description of HTTP/2, see {{?RFC7540}}. The -description of HPACK is {{!RFC7541}}. +The QUIC transport protocol is designed to support HTTP semantics, and its A reference to h3 might help more. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -82,25 +82,22 @@ code and issues list for this draft can be found at
 
 # Introduction
 
-The QUIC transport protocol was designed from the outset to support HTTP
-semantics, and its design subsumes many of the features of HTTP/2.  HTTP/2 uses
-HPACK ({{!RFC7541}}) for header compression, but QUIC's stream multiplexing
-comes into some conflict with HPACK.  A key goal of the design of QUIC is to
-improve stream multiplexing relative to HTTP/2 by reducing head-of-line
-blocking.  If HPACK were used for HTTP/3, it would induce head-of-line
-blocking due to built-in assumptions of a total ordering across frames on all
-streams.
-
-QUIC is described in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}.  The HTTP/3 mapping is described in
-{{HTTP3}}. For a full description of HTTP/2, see {{?RFC7540}}. The
-description of HPACK is {{!RFC7541}}.
+The QUIC transport protocol is designed to support HTTP semantics, and its

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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Jun 18 16:06:26 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00EF612001B for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2019 16:06:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.605 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.605 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8GcXqxzz5EaP for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2019 16:06:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3E2541202A7 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2019 16:06:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2019 16:06:20 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560899180; bh=zjytZuq+wgv5qMdN0Nubc6LUlYoJIr/w/Pwf7j75b54=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Fyc0ntBBorZ90LGf30LfgUViCp+mRCWHRJNgmmu17SyEt9wGfl+x8RYsW6gR/tMMP BuBJlle08ShlUS8F+54lJRKcuvHCfhbNSuQ/vigqrukcxRUeq/jZL7wDm6uriD5oO9 Vo2O+nfTfBoJWuq1kUArIljzXAmWolLE/K7xQC8E= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clarify ACK of ACKs and bundling a PING (#2794) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d096e6c24eee_27d63fea35ecd95c175861"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2019 23:06:24 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d096e6c24eee_27d63fea35ecd95c175861 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mikkelfj commented on this pull request. > @@ -2884,10 +2884,10 @@ needing acknowledgement are received. The sender can use the receiver's Strategies and implications of the frequency of generating acknowledgments are discussed in more detail in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}. -ACK-only packets are only sent in response to ACK-eliciting packets, so a -receiver that is only sending ACK frames will only receive acknowledgements -for its packets if the sender includes them in packets with ACK-eliciting -frames. A sender SHOULD bundle ACK frames with other frames when possible. +An endpoint that is only sending ACK frames won't receive acknowledgments from won't -> will not -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2794#pullrequestreview-251405506 ----==_mimepart_5d096e6c24eee_27d63fea35ecd95c175861 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2884,10 +2884,10 @@ needing acknowledgement are received.  The sender can use the receiver's
 Strategies and implications of the frequency of generating acknowledgments are
 discussed in more detail in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.
 
-ACK-only packets are only sent in response to ACK-eliciting packets, so a
-receiver that is only sending ACK frames will only receive acknowledgements
-for its packets if the sender includes them in packets with ACK-eliciting
-frames.  A sender SHOULD bundle ACK frames with other frames when possible.
+An endpoint that is only sending ACK frames won't receive acknowledgments from

won't -> will not

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Define terms for the operations which an application can cause a transport to take, and for the events of which the application can be notified by the transport. This should close #2677, in the process. This issue should:

  • Eliminate the term "trigger" when talking about QUIC frames
  • Try not to mention specific QUIC frames at all
  • Remove "send a QUIC RESET_STREAM" from 7.2.4
  • Remove "sends a STOP_SENDING with HTTP_REQUEST_CANCELLED, a server MAY send the error code HTTP_REQUEST_REJECTED in the corresponding RESET_STREAM" from 4.1.2
  • Reword references to sending values in particular transport parameters

I believe those essential functions are:

  • On the connection:
    • Open a connection, specifying certain properties that translate to transport parameters
    • Receive incoming connections, which will possess certain properties based on the peer's transport parameters
    • Participate in deciding whether to accept 0-RTT based on embedded data
    • Provide data to be embedded in resumption tokens
    • Cooperate to control keep-alive, either by sending PINGs directly or by telling the transport that the connection can't be allowed to time out
    • Immediate close
  • On the stream:
    • Read data
    • Write data, understanding at what point flow control credit has been committed
    • Close the sending part
    • Request closure of the receiving part

The events we depend on are connection closure and stream closure.

This is largely editorial, since it's mostly defining terminology, but we'll also likely be mandating that QUIC stacks expose these features, so that's normative/design. (Obviously the 0-RTT ones will be "if implemented" requirements.)

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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

Thanks, I'm going to remove that paragraph.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1336,11 +1335,7 @@ and sets the SCIL field to indicate the length.
 The first flight of 0-RTT packets use the same Destination and Source Connection
 ID values as the client's first Initial.
 
-The Destination Connection ID field in the server's Initial packet contains a
-connection ID that is chosen by the recipient of the packet (i.e., the client);
-the Source Connection ID includes the connection ID that the sender of the
-packet wishes to use (see {{connection-id}}). The server MUST use consistent
-Source Connection IDs during the handshake.
+The server MUST use consistent Source Connection IDs during the handshake.

Weirdly, this text was already there, see lines 1342/1343.

But I agree, this is clearly incorrect or depends upon the definition of consistent, which I don't believe is worth defining. I'm going to remove this paragraph.

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See {{issue-cid}}. +Retire Prior To: + +: A variable-length integer specifying the limit for which all connection IDs + assigned to the receiver that have a sequence number less than this value + should be retired. See {{retiring-cids}}. This sentence is kind of difficult to parse. We should also specify that this value MUST be smaller or equal to the Sequence Number carried by this frame. > @@ -5018,6 +5039,27 @@ sequence number, or if a sequence number is used for different connection IDs, the endpoint MAY treat that receipt as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION. +The Retire Prior To field is a request for the peer to retire all connection IDs +with a sequence number less than the specified value. This includes the initial +and preferred_address transport parameter connection IDs. The peer SHOULD +retire the corresponding connection IDs and send the corresponding +RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames in a timely manner This feels duplicate to the first diff of this PR. 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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4984,6 +4999,12 @@ Sequence Number:
 : The sequence number assigned to the connection ID by the sender.  See
   {{issue-cid}}.
 
+Retire Prior To:
+
+: A variable-length integer specifying the limit for which all connection IDs
+  assigned to the receiver that have a sequence number less than this value
+  should be retired.  See {{retiring-cids}}.

This sentence is kind of difficult to parse.

We should also specify that this value MUST be smaller or equal to the Sequence Number carried by this frame.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -5018,6 +5039,27 @@ sequence number, or if a sequence number is used for different connection
 IDs, the endpoint MAY treat that receipt as a connection error of type
 PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.
 
+The Retire Prior To field is a request for the peer to retire all connection IDs
+with a sequence number less than the specified value.  This includes the initial
+and preferred_address transport parameter connection IDs.  The peer SHOULD
+retire the corresponding connection IDs and send the corresponding
+RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames in a timely manner

This feels duplicate to the first diff of this PR. Maybe we can move the sentence about the initial SPA connection ID up there?

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Thanks Martin, I made some updates based on your suggestions. > @@ -187,8 +187,9 @@ QUIC: QUIC packet: -: The smallest unit of QUIC that can be encapsulated in a UDP datagram. Multiple - QUIC packets can be encapsulated in a single UDP datagram. +: A complete processable payload with a packet type, encryption level and Payload was my best suggestion here, so I'm open to others. > @@ -244,8 +245,9 @@ x (*) ...: # Streams {#streams} Streams in QUIC provide a lightweight, ordered byte-stream abstraction to an -application. An alternative view of QUIC streams is as an elastic "message" -abstraction. +application. Streams can be unidirectional or bidirecational. An alternative +view of QUIC unidirectional streams is a "message" abstraction of unlimited +length. practically unlimited? > @@ -543,9 +546,8 @@ MAX_STREAM_DATA frames, it only receives any retransmissions of stream data. Once all data for the stream has been received, the receiving part enters the "Data Recvd" state. This might happen as a result of receiving the same STREAM -frame that causes the transition to "Size Known". In this state, the endpoint -has all stream data. Any STREAM or STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED frames it receives for -the stream can be discarded. +frame that causes the transition to "Size Known". Any STREAM or +STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED frames it receives for the stream can be discarded. Updated, PTAL > @@ -734,9 +731,8 @@ used to check for flow control violations. A receiver might use a sum of bytes consumed on all streams to determine the maximum data limit to be advertised. A receiver can advertise a larger offset by sending MAX_STREAM_DATA or MAX_DATA -frames at any time during the connection. A receiver cannot renege on an -advertisement however. That is, once a receiver advertises an offset, it MAY -advertise a smaller offset, but this has no effect. +frames. That is, once a receiver advertises an offset, it MAY advertise a Done > @@ -746,16 +742,15 @@ A sender MUST ignore any MAX_STREAM_DATA or MAX_DATA frames that do not increase flow control limits. If a sender runs out of flow control credit, it will be unable to send new data -and is considered blocked. A sender SHOULD send STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED or -DATA_BLOCKED frames to indicate it has data to write but is blocked by flow +and is considered blocked. A sender SHOULD send a single STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED or Done > @@ -861,13 +855,12 @@ If either is received, the connection MUST be closed immediately with a connection error of type STREAM_LIMIT_ERROR (see {{immediate-close}}). Endpoints MUST NOT exceed the limit set by their peer. An endpoint that -receives a STREAM frame with a stream ID exceeding the limit it has sent MUST +receives a frame with a stream ID exceeding the limit it has sent MUST That's true, but I think that's a feature, not a bug. > @@ -657,11 +659,6 @@ RESET_STREAM frame it sends, but MAY use any application error code. The endpoint that sends a STOP_SENDING frame MAY ignore the error code carried in any RESET_STREAM frame it receives. -If the STOP_SENDING frame is received on a stream that is already in the -"Data Sent" state, an endpoint that wishes to cease retransmission of -previously-sent STREAM frames on that stream MUST first send a RESET_STREAM -frame. Upon reading, I thought it was redundant with the surrounding text, but I'll restore it for this PR. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Thanks Martin, I made some updates based on your suggestions.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -187,8 +187,9 @@ QUIC:
 
 QUIC packet:
 
-: The smallest unit of QUIC that can be encapsulated in a UDP datagram. Multiple
-  QUIC packets can be encapsulated in a single UDP datagram.
+: A complete processable payload with a packet type, encryption level and

Payload was my best suggestion here, so I'm open to others.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -244,8 +245,9 @@ x (*) ...:
 # Streams {#streams}
 
 Streams in QUIC provide a lightweight, ordered byte-stream abstraction to an
-application. An alternative view of QUIC streams is as an elastic "message"
-abstraction.
+application. Streams can be unidirectional or bidirecational.  An alternative
+view of QUIC unidirectional streams is a "message" abstraction of unlimited
+length.

practically unlimited?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -543,9 +546,8 @@ MAX_STREAM_DATA frames, it only receives any retransmissions of stream data.
 
 Once all data for the stream has been received, the receiving part enters the
 "Data Recvd" state.  This might happen as a result of receiving the same STREAM
-frame that causes the transition to "Size Known".  In this state, the endpoint
-has all stream data.  Any STREAM or STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED frames it receives for
-the stream can be discarded.
+frame that causes the transition to "Size Known".  Any STREAM or
+STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED frames it receives for the stream can be discarded.

Updated, PTAL

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -734,9 +731,8 @@ used to check for flow control violations. A receiver might use a sum of bytes
 consumed on all streams to determine the maximum data limit to be advertised.
 
 A receiver can advertise a larger offset by sending MAX_STREAM_DATA or MAX_DATA
-frames at any time during the connection.  A receiver cannot renege on an
-advertisement however.  That is, once a receiver advertises an offset, it MAY
-advertise a smaller offset, but this has no effect.
+frames.  That is, once a receiver advertises an offset, it MAY advertise a

Done

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -746,16 +742,15 @@ A sender MUST ignore any MAX_STREAM_DATA or MAX_DATA frames that do not increase
 flow control limits.
 
 If a sender runs out of flow control credit, it will be unable to send new data
-and is considered blocked.  A sender SHOULD send STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED or
-DATA_BLOCKED frames to indicate it has data to write but is blocked by flow
+and is considered blocked.  A sender SHOULD send a single STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED or

Done

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -861,13 +855,12 @@ If either is received, the connection MUST be closed immediately with a
 connection error of type STREAM_LIMIT_ERROR (see {{immediate-close}}).
 
 Endpoints MUST NOT exceed the limit set by their peer.  An endpoint that
-receives a STREAM frame with a stream ID exceeding the limit it has sent MUST
+receives a frame with a stream ID exceeding the limit it has sent MUST

That's true, but I think that's a feature, not a bug.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -657,11 +659,6 @@ RESET_STREAM frame it sends, but MAY use any application error code.  The
 endpoint that sends a STOP_SENDING frame MAY ignore the error code carried in
 any RESET_STREAM frame it receives.
 
-If the STOP_SENDING frame is received on a stream that is already in the
-"Data Sent" state, an endpoint that wishes to cease retransmission of
-previously-sent STREAM frames on that stream MUST first send a RESET_STREAM
-frame.

Upon reading, I thought it was redundant with the surrounding text, but I'll restore it for this PR.

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Another attempt at #2655

Fixes #2650, Fixes #2648

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@DavidSchinazi Thank you for the suggestions.

the MUST stems from avoiding an attacker messing with the KEY_PHASE bit, not from out of order packets.

Yes. An endpoint should not calculate the next receive key whenever it receives a packet with a header claiming that it uses the next key phase, meaning that it needs to cache the next receive key. That leads us to "MUST at least two during a key update."

An endpoint SHOULD retain a third receive key (the "past" key) so that it can unprotect older packets that arrive out-of-order.

While I like your suggested text for clarifying better how the keys are generated / dropped, this sounds like a new requirement. I think it's unnecessary (and also would oppose to introducing such a requirement).

Therefore, while incorporating the suggested text, I've instead went on to clarify how a 2-key design should replace the "past" key with the "future" key. Also, Instead of naming the three keys, I've changed the text to refer to the key phases using terms "current", "next", "previous", and to talk about their corresponding keys.

PTAL.

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----==_mimepart_5d09b9ee76f29_cc53fae676cd96431283b-- From nobody Tue Jun 18 21:40:51 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD062120342 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2019 21:40:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6dY1-GzIishv for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2019 21:40:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D83CD1200FA for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2019 21:40:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2019 21:40:45 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560919245; bh=8CmWetsB56P4+OvILivVLvz2ngcDXS8lje93i+b/Mr4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=l2NSThRHDy+WV5RwWrPVtJg17fGGg79WmQXES0/8LdrseGewE+G9vL2FnghtQ6VCk 4Oi55ROQXfbVXtDABWHW5r7Y9GnNYhE575GDW/bUl5pXLn4A8nW7pT6yPYdK8o5lo0 4LUpNXW/26aVjAchIS0+i7Qhfp8ADdfHbZlGWmLQ= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clarify ACK of ACKs and bundling a PING (#2794) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d09bccdc278c_77343fb0712cd95c340679"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2019 04:40:49 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d09bccdc278c_77343fb0712cd95c340679 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kazuho approved this pull request. LGTM, though I have very nit-picky comments. > @@ -2860,12 +2860,13 @@ valid frames? --> ### Sending ACK Frames An endpoint MUST NOT send more than one packet containing only an ACK frame per -received packet that contains frames other than ACK and PADDING frames. -An endpoint MUST NOT send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response -to a packet containing only ACK or PADDING frames, even if there are packet -gaps which precede the received packet. This prevents an indefinite feedback -loop of ACKs. The endpoint MUST however acknowledge packets containing only -ACK or PADDING frames when sending ACK frames in response to other packets. +received non-ACK-eliciting packet(ie: one containing only ACK and/or PADDING Maybe "MUST NOT send more than one non-ACK-eliciting packet in response to one non-ACK-eliciting packet"? The packet the endpoint sends can also be a combination of ACK and PADDING. > @@ -2860,12 +2860,13 @@ valid frames? --> ### Sending ACK Frames An endpoint MUST NOT send more than one packet containing only an ACK frame per -received packet that contains frames other than ACK and PADDING frames. -An endpoint MUST NOT send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response -to a packet containing only ACK or PADDING frames, even if there are packet -gaps which precede the received packet. This prevents an indefinite feedback -loop of ACKs. The endpoint MUST however acknowledge packets containing only -ACK or PADDING frames when sending ACK frames in response to other packets. +received non-ACK-eliciting packet(ie: one containing only ACK and/or PADDING +frames). An endpoint MUST NOT send a packet containing only an ACK frame in Here also. > @@ -2883,16 +2884,21 @@ needing acknowledgement are received. The sender can use the receiver's Strategies and implications of the frequency of generating acknowledgments are discussed in more detail in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}. +An endpoint that is only sending ACK frames will not receive acknowledgments Maybe s/only sending ACK frames/only sending acknowledgements/. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2794#pullrequestreview-251470349 ----==_mimepart_5d09bccdc278c_77343fb0712cd95c340679 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@kazuho approved this pull request.

LGTM, though I have very nit-picky comments.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2860,12 +2860,13 @@ valid frames? -->
 ### Sending ACK Frames
 
 An endpoint MUST NOT send more than one packet containing only an ACK frame per
-received packet that contains frames other than ACK and PADDING frames.
-An endpoint MUST NOT send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response
-to a packet containing only ACK or PADDING frames, even if there are packet
-gaps which precede the received packet. This prevents an indefinite feedback
-loop of ACKs. The endpoint MUST however acknowledge packets containing only
-ACK or PADDING frames when sending ACK frames in response to other packets.
+received non-ACK-eliciting packet(ie: one containing only ACK and/or PADDING

Maybe "MUST NOT send more than one non-ACK-eliciting packet in response to one non-ACK-eliciting packet"?

The packet the endpoint sends can also be a combination of ACK and PADDING.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2860,12 +2860,13 @@ valid frames? -->
 ### Sending ACK Frames
 
 An endpoint MUST NOT send more than one packet containing only an ACK frame per
-received packet that contains frames other than ACK and PADDING frames.
-An endpoint MUST NOT send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response
-to a packet containing only ACK or PADDING frames, even if there are packet
-gaps which precede the received packet. This prevents an indefinite feedback
-loop of ACKs. The endpoint MUST however acknowledge packets containing only
-ACK or PADDING frames when sending ACK frames in response to other packets.
+received non-ACK-eliciting packet(ie: one containing only ACK and/or PADDING
+frames).  An endpoint MUST NOT send a packet containing only an ACK frame in

Here also.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2883,16 +2884,21 @@ needing acknowledgement are received.  The sender can use the receiver's
 Strategies and implications of the frequency of generating acknowledgments are
 discussed in more detail in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.
 
+An endpoint that is only sending ACK frames will not receive acknowledgments

Maybe s/only sending ACK frames/only sending acknowledgements/.

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@mikkelfj commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2860,12 +2860,13 @@ valid frames? -->
 ### Sending ACK Frames
 
 An endpoint MUST NOT send more than one packet containing only an ACK frame per
-received packet that contains frames other than ACK and PADDING frames.
-An endpoint MUST NOT send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response
-to a packet containing only ACK or PADDING frames, even if there are packet
-gaps which precede the received packet. This prevents an indefinite feedback
-loop of ACKs. The endpoint MUST however acknowledge packets containing only
-ACK or PADDING frames when sending ACK frames in response to other packets.
+received non-ACK-eliciting packet(ie: one containing only ACK and/or PADDING

This could get messy with timeouts and retransmissions. You may want to ensure that peer has ACK but there might not be space in a packet being retransmitted.

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -1279,8 +1279,7 @@ An application-layer protocol MAY restrict the QUIC versions that it can operate
 over.  Servers MUST select an application protocol compatible with the QUIC

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -1279,8 +1279,7 @@ An application-layer protocol MAY restrict the QUIC versions that it can operate
 over.  Servers MUST select an application protocol compatible with the QUIC

Not part of this PR.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -187,8 +187,9 @@ QUIC:
 
 QUIC packet:
 
-: The smallest unit of QUIC that can be encapsulated in a UDP datagram. Multiple
-  QUIC packets can be encapsulated in a single UDP datagram.
+: A complete processable payload with a packet type, encryption level and
+  packet number. Multiple QUIC packets can be encapsulated in a single UDP
+  datagram.

An authenticated and encrypted container of payload usually carrying a packet number and sometimes a connection identifier and version information in its header.

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Also, it is probably not clear to the reader that the intent is to compute a key ahead of time when reading the first section. Furthermore, there is also an attack on send since if you compute the send key when you respond immediately, that can be timed. The text also does not discuss what to do with a packet that does not authenticate. Do you drop, or something else. After trying to formulate that, I ended up with some problems that you can hopefully help clarify. Here is my proposed text: ``` Packets received with the current key phase are unprotected using the corresponding receive key. When a packet arrives with the opposite key phase, an endpoint determines which receive key to use by tracking the lowest packet number among the packets received and successfully decrypted and authenticate with the currently key phase. If a packet is received that has a different KEY_PHASE bit and a lower packet number than this value, the endpoint uses the receive key of the previous key phase for unprotecting the packet, if that key is available. If the packet has a higher packet number and it can be decrypted and authenticated with the receive key of the next key phase, the receiver switches to the new keyphase. An an endpoint SHOULD compute the secret and related receive and send keys of the next keyphase ahead of time to protect against timing attacks. The receiver therefore has at least two installed receive keys but SHOULD transitionally maintain older an older key to deal with late arriving packets for a duration of 3 PTO after switching to a new key phase. The endpoint derives keys of the next key phase by calculating the next secret (see Section 7.2 of {{!TLS13}}), the corresponding read key and IV using the KDF function provided by TLS. Once an endpoint has sent a packet encrypted with a given key phase, it MUST NOT send a packet encrypted with an older key phase. (EDITORIAL: see note below) If packet cannot be decrypted the reciever drops the packet but MAY also close the connection with a PROTOCOL_VIOLOATION error if it finds that it can decrypt and authenticate a packet with receive key that is retired for that packet number. (EDITORIAL NOTE: I'm struggling with when a key is fully retired and in violation because it is always possible that an earlier packet is received after a key switch which also carries the new key phase. You could formulate something but it gets complicated). ``` Maybe we can just use "successfully unprotect" instead of decrypt and authenticate. Or perhaps it is enough to authenticate without decrypting. Noting that these are parallel and separate steps in GCM that can be processed separately. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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I read through the latest commit and I think it is largely fine, but I found the attack discussion a bit difficult, and the text is not distinguishing between receiving a key and authenticating a key. Also, it is probably not clear to the reader that the intent is to compute a key ahead of time when reading the first section. Furthermore, there is also an attack on send since if you compute the send key when you respond immediately, that can be timed.

The text also does not discuss what to do with a packet that does not authenticate. Do you drop, or something else. After trying to formulate that, I ended up with some problems that you can hopefully help clarify.

Here is my proposed text:

Packets received with the current key phase are unprotected using the
corresponding receive key.  When a packet arrives with the opposite key phase,
an endpoint determines which receive key to use by tracking the lowest packet
number among the packets received and successfully decrypted and authenticate
with the currently key phase. If a packet is received that has a different
KEY_PHASE bit and a lower packet number than this value, the endpoint uses the
receive key of the previous key phase for unprotecting the packet, if that key
is available.

If the packet has a higher packet number and it can be decrypted and
authenticated with the receive key of the next key phase, the receiver switches
to the new keyphase.

An an endpoint SHOULD compute the secret and related receive and send keys of
the next keyphase ahead of time to protect against timing attacks. The receiver
therefore has at least two installed receive keys but SHOULD transitionally
maintain older an older key to deal with late arriving packets for a duration of
3 PTO after switching to a new key phase.

The endpoint derives keys of the next key phase by calculating the
next secret (see Section 7.2 of {{!TLS13}}), the corresponding read key and IV
using the KDF function provided by TLS.

Once an endpoint has sent a packet encrypted with a given key phase, it MUST NOT
send a packet encrypted with an older key phase. (EDITORIAL: see note below)
If packet cannot be decrypted the reciever drops the packet but MAY also close
the connection with a PROTOCOL_VIOLOATION error if it finds that it can decrypt
and authenticate a packet with receive key that is retired for that packet number. 

(EDITORIAL NOTE: I'm struggling with when a key is fully retired and in violation because
it is always possible that an earlier packet is received after a key switch
which also carries the new key phase. You could formulate something but it gets
complicated).

Maybe we can just use "successfully unprotect" instead of decrypt and authenticate. Or perhaps it is enough to authenticate without decrypting. Noting that these are parallel and separate steps in GCM that can be processed separately.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +Resumed connections over the same network SHOULD use the previous connection's
+final smoothed RTT value as the resumed connection's initial RTT.  If no
+previous RTT is available, or if the network changes, the initial RTT SHOULD
+be set to 500ms, resulting in a 1 second initial timeout as recommended in
+{{?RFC6298}}.
+
+A connection MAY use the delay between sending a PATH_CHALLENGE and receiving
+a PATH_RESPONSE to seed initial_rtt for a new path, but the delay SHOULD NOT
+be considered an RTT sample.
+
+Until the server has validated the client's address on the path, the amount of
+data it can send is limited, as specified in Section 8.1 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}.
+If not all unacknowledged CRYPTO data can be sent, then all unacknowledged
+CRYPTO data sent in Initial packets should be retransmitted.  If no data can be
+sent, then no alarm should be armed until data has been received from the
+client.

The idle timeout is a transport concept, it has nothing to do with loss recovery.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +Resumed connections over the same network SHOULD use the previous connection's
+final smoothed RTT value as the resumed connection's initial RTT.  If no
+previous RTT is available, or if the network changes, the initial RTT SHOULD
+be set to 500ms, resulting in a 1 second initial timeout as recommended in
+{{?RFC6298}}.
+
+A connection MAY use the delay between sending a PATH_CHALLENGE and receiving
+a PATH_RESPONSE to seed initial_rtt for a new path, but the delay SHOULD NOT
+be considered an RTT sample.
+
+Until the server has validated the client's address on the path, the amount of
+data it can send is limited, as specified in Section 8.1 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}.
+If not all unacknowledged CRYPTO data can be sent, then all unacknowledged
+CRYPTO data sent in Initial packets should be retransmitted.  If no data can be
+sent, then no alarm should be armed until data has been received from the
+client.

Maybe say "no recovery alarm" or "no retransmission alarm"

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@mikkelfj Thank you for the suggestions.

An endpoint SHOULD compute the secret and related receive and send keys of the next key phase ahead of time

SHOULD transitionally maintain an older key to deal with late arriving packets for a duration of 3 PTO after switching to a new key phase.

It is my understanding that if we should make these non-editorial changes is an open issue (see #2792).

(EDITORIAL NOTE: I'm struggling with when a key is fully retired and in violation because it is always possible that an earlier packet is received after a key switch which also carries the new key phase. You could formulate something but it gets complicated).

An endpoint should not call it a violation when it receives a packet carrying an awfully outdated key phase, because such behavior would allow an on-path attacker to disrupt a connection, by buffering a and injecting a very old packet. That also means that there's no reason to define when an old key is dropped.

Maybe we can just use "successfully unprotect" instead of decrypt and authenticate. Or perhaps it is enough to authenticate without decrypting. Noting that these are parallel and separate steps in GCM that can be processed separately.

It is true that we use "decrypt and authenticate" as a synonym of "unprotect." I can see that it might be confusing. OTOH, we should never allow decryption or authentication as a separate operation, because that would lead to timing attacks.

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An endpoint should not call it a violation when it receives a packet carrying an awfully outdated key phase, because such behavior would allow an on-path attacker to disrupt a connection, by buffering a and injecting a very old packet. That also means that there's no reason to define when an old key is dropped.

My point is the arrival of a packet encrypted with a very new key in a very old packet number. Exactly when that packet number is too old is the question. It relates to the sender MUST not send with an older key. Ultimately it comes down to not observing keys with overlapping ranges. We cannot say that a packet should always be dropped since it is valid to close in some cases, it is just hard to specify.

My mention of unprotect relates to my own text which uses your term "authenticate and decrypt" repetitively in order to be precise.

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My point is the arrival of a packet encrypted with a very new key in a very old packet number. Exactly when that packet number is too old is the question. It relates to the sender MUST not send with an older key. Ultimately it comes down to not observing keys with overlapping ranges.

Thank you for the clarification. It is my understanding that a "sender MUST NOT" implies "receiver MAY close when it detects violation," and IIRC we have agreed that such behavior is either desirable or permissible in this specific case.

I think we can clarify that and the mechanism could be simple, because we already suggest that an endpoint might track the lowest, successfully unprotected packet number of the current key phase.

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Clarification on violation:
a new key in an old packet: should never be violation, unless it is too old in which case it can optionally trigger a close.

If it is too old, it is not an attack vector because client mixed up keys without discussion. Only, it is hard to specify exactly when old is too old without complex text.

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My previous comment landed without me reading your latest comment.

I think we can clarify that and the mechanism could be simple, because we already suggest that an endpoint might track the lowest, successfully unprotected packet number of the current key phase.

This is the hard part because that goal post keeps moving down as delayed packets arrive.
The problem is exactly if this goal post moves past a packet number observed with a more recent key.

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Appendix A.4 contains a convenient comparison of HTTP/2 and HTTP/3
error codes. However, it states that HTTP/2's PROTOCOL_ERROR has no
single equivalent, which I think is incorrect because HTTP/3 has
HTTP_GENERAL_PROTOCOL_ERROR.

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Fixes #2807

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  • Compare H2 PROTOCOL_ERROR with HTTP_GENERAL_PROTOCOL_ERROR

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HTTP_WRONG_STREAM and HTTP_UNEXPECTED_FRAME are used a lot and very
similar. The former is used by a peer that receives a valid frame on a
stream that it should never be sent on, the latter is used by a peer
that receives a valid frame on a stream that is normally ok but has
transitioned to an application-level stream state which prohibits it.
Rationalising these seems like a logical option.

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HTTP_WRONG_SETTING_DIRECTION presently applies to exactly one case, a client that sends NUM_PLACEHOLDERS. Declassifying this as an error seems like a sensible option. This frees up error code 0x1, which we can move HTTP_GENERAL_PROTOCOL_ERROR to (making HTTP/3 more similar to HTTP/2).

My preference is to state that servers MUST ignore this value if present. I'll prepare a PR to that effect.

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----==_mimepart_5d0a1072ef263_bbb3f9e8d4cd96442203f-- From nobody Wed Jun 19 03:48:58 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2625F120226 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2019 03:48:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.604 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.604 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pJQMKeqTj8uG for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2019 03:48:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-10.smtp.github.com (out-10.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CAFB120099 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2019 03:48:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2019 03:48:54 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560941334; bh=3A+sDCQAYbRwyBFYyhqXnR4g3Vg7OYlfubfU3sPQRnQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=dP09LZbuYr9u0uLWR/vBpTUgERCFcT4re0CMuIqIdPc+3rGlXMMlp0lYvvZp82iK2 L/yFQ3hqEsuI+nFORCmAbyH/WWTjOdqoFXLOfUkWSTG7ElCrJ/Ll8zOfuZdbkZ4MSF uiXorRgOKUcgGf8adm88lLuWYdVvcQguIufiXlx4= From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS (#2811) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d0a1316480ae_3c7e3fed58acd96c871e9"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2019 10:48:57 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d0a1316480ae_3c7e3fed58acd96c871e9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Addresses #2810 You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2811 -- Commit Summary -- * Remove SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (14) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2811.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2811.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2811 ----==_mimepart_5d0a1316480ae_3c7e3fed58acd96c871e9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Addresses #2810

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----==_mimepart_5d0a1316480ae_3c7e3fed58acd96c871e9-- From nobody Wed Jun 19 04:00:46 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3B83120226 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2019 04:00:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.605 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.605 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4HPLGmFGelgJ for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2019 04:00:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CBB38120099 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2019 04:00:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2019 04:00:41 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560942041; bh=aOpvSVucNr9wxnxVAtiHtUkUeu6XyOqCgI7wxi0NzvM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=NDfx3QN+xd2jYszhscKtESXiP1+uSUKtLmDwZ37nGRyZRVFddpVaBGnzgGuaCxrWA tT5rx+uisd8LErNFIrmlQroHJrLftw5cUG3g7dXIXPXcVgnO8Vm0wDC+OBFgDWH8ik X9pEjEBzvaIsv2qrb7qWjus/NRxMZP8yP5x8iHoo= From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rationalise Server-Push-specific rejection error codes (#2812) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d0a15d995f29_1f8c3fa88aacd95c18044c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2019 11:00:45 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d0a15d995f29_1f8c3fa88aacd95c18044c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit RFC 7540 section 8.2.2 states: > If the client determines, for any reason, that it does not wish to receive the pushed response from the server or if the server takes too long to begin sending the promised response, the client can send a RST_STREAM frame, using either the CANCEL or REFUSED_STREAM code and referencing the pushed stream's identifier. HTTP/3 changed push a bit and introduced two error codes: HTTP_PUSH_REFUSED and HTTP_PUSH_ALREADY_IN_CACHE. These is extra fidelity on top of HTTP/2, clearly articulating if the pushed item is in cache or not. This may be seen as useful, however there are some practical downsides: * The CANCEL_PUSH frame exists and is the first RECOMMENDED action for declining a push. This does not expose the reason * In actuality, server push caching is murky, which may affect the amount of confidence an operator could put into analyising these error codes. I think it is simpler, more self-consistent, and mroe HTTP/2-consistent to have one error code for server push. I'll prepare a PR for this. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2812 ----==_mimepart_5d0a15d995f29_1f8c3fa88aacd95c18044c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

RFC 7540 section 8.2.2 states:

If the client determines, for any reason, that it does not wish to
receive the pushed response from the server or if the server takes
too long to begin sending the promised response, the client can send
a RST_STREAM frame, using either the CANCEL or REFUSED_STREAM code
and referencing the pushed stream's identifier.

HTTP/3 changed push a bit and introduced two error codes: HTTP_PUSH_REFUSED and HTTP_PUSH_ALREADY_IN_CACHE. These is extra fidelity on top of HTTP/2, clearly articulating if the pushed item is in cache or not. This may be seen as useful, however there are some practical downsides:

  • The CANCEL_PUSH frame exists and is the first RECOMMENDED action for declining a push. This does not expose the reason
  • In actuality, server push caching is murky, which may affect the amount of confidence an operator could put into analyising these error codes.

I think it is simpler, more self-consistent, and mroe HTTP/2-consistent to have one error code for server push. I'll prepare a PR for this.

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Fixes #2812

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I forgot to mention that @MikeBishop made an observation that SETTINGS errors are presently also covered by MALFORMED_FRAME, which is also on the chopping block.

An alternative solution is therefore to create an INVALID_SETTINGS that covers all the ways that a SETTINGS frames coudl go wrong.

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Thank you for opening the issues.

While I agree that we do not need an error code specific to SETTINGS going in the wrong direction, I am not sure if declassifying it as an error is the right option. Not that I have a strong opinion, but IIRC our consensus is to be more strict against misbehaving peers in HTTP/3 compared to HTTP/2.

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----==_mimepart_5d0a2903a834c_4dae3fe6e16cd95c4588df-- From nobody Wed Jun 19 05:30:37 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DE8F12047F for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2019 05:30:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.007 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.007 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RWmE52MBnvh6 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2019 05:30:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A9A0E12031D for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2019 05:30:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2019 05:30:32 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560947432; bh=YqL4DkSisnWI77CQ1/UZYzOg/DmRk4SRItg7sHMP7Ms=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=P9w6An+ZZ36h211fjJletta2ZgyBMAa+q1UfpCCqmLdg+jxA38iLmH9Av+gXMeP0I c6HM+068BY7N500Df874K6CJ/lztUUHOxUYT2xCY2CqLHrAS6x877CnXFxgYbAhBq9 YeeSy5mGD8S8jmBuNiYMqETDaG4MxUsIqQMjNnfM= From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rationalize HTTP_WRONG_SETTING_DIRECTION (#2814) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d0a2ae8687ff_596f3f8bc3ccd95c4414b1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2019 12:30:35 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d0a2ae8687ff_596f3f8bc3ccd95c4414b1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This fixes #2810 in a different way by subtituting the error code and not changing the requirements related to NUM_PLACEHOLDERS. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2814 -- Commit Summary -- * Rationalize HTTP_WRONG_SETTING_DIRECTION -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (13) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2814.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2814.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2814 ----==_mimepart_5d0a2ae8687ff_596f3f8bc3ccd95c4414b1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

This fixes #2810 in a different way by subtituting the error code and not changing the requirements related to NUM_PLACEHOLDERS.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2814

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  • Rationalize HTTP_WRONG_SETTING_DIRECTION

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----==_mimepart_5d0a2ae8687ff_596f3f8bc3ccd95c4414b1-- From nobody Wed Jun 19 05:32:30 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 314CA12047F for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2019 05:32:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.806 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.806 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.415, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oGuURtwESgLM for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2019 05:32:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9882312031D for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2019 05:32:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2019 05:32:26 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560947546; bh=sWHzRnPSqD7y4viLN9yZ39R+chxm1WNKdBMWWigXQSA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=X2z7bqWCsg6eOBk/QdMKehCzQRh+yQGTc4075u2sTGM1G7fGO+N2GbI1zEG/vaeTl qfnPJ5wiWtyF8x2l5/pvg21AD/ZijacikU8CM5SAPwpYxeawnobINeU3du3FecLmip bMGbgoIg+gLhVbKVWXdi8kBH6oLTwWm4GU4TI7JI= From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rationalise HTTP_WRONG_SETTING_DIRECTION error (#2810) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d0a2b5a88324_78443f82962cd960621519"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2019 12:32:29 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d0a2b5a88324_78443f82962cd960621519 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks @kazuho, after suggesting this I changed my mind. I made #2814 to implement the change as you and Mike suggest. The nice side effect is that it takes one step away from MALFORMED_FRAME. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2810#issuecomment-503540695 ----==_mimepart_5d0a2b5a88324_78443f82962cd960621519 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Thanks @kazuho, after suggesting this I changed my mind. I made #2814 to implement the change as you and Mike suggest. The nice side effect is that it takes one step away from MALFORMED_FRAME.

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I think we prefer #2814 over this PR but leaving open for reference.

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I agree that we can remove HTTP_PUSH_ALREADY_IN_CACHE.

In addition, I think we might also want to remove CANCEL_PUSH in favor of using REQUEST_CANCELLED. IIUC, the semantics of CANCEL_PUSH can be (or can be) exactly the same as REQUEST_CANCELLED after the client has sent the entire request.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -2174,8 +2174,7 @@ NO_ERROR (0x0):
 : HTTP_NO_ERROR in {{http-error-codes}}.
 
 PROTOCOL_ERROR (0x1):
-: No single mapping.  See new HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME error codes defined in
-  {{http-error-codes}}.
+: HTTP_GENERAL_PROTOCOL ERROR in {{http-error-codes}}.

Isn't it still the case that we have multiple error codes that map to HTTP_GENERAL_PROTOCOL error in HTTP/2?

Or are we going to merge all the connection-level error codes that do not map to an error code in HTTP/2 (e.g., WRONG_STREAM, UNEXPECTED_FRAME, CLOSED_CRITICAL_STREAM) to HTTP_GENERAL_PROTOCOL?

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

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+: HTTP_GENERAL_PROTOCOL ERROR in {{http-error-codes}}.=0D
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I don't follow sorry. This section states:

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QUIC has the same concepts of =E2=80=9Cstream=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Cco= nnection=E2=80=9D errors that HTTP/2 provides. However, there is no direc= t portability of HTTP/2 error codes.

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The change is intended to address how the HTTP/2 error code PROTOCOL_E= RROR for HTTP/3 non-connection errors (usually frame errors) are expresse= d.

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In addition, I think we might also want to remove CANCEL_PUSH in favor of using REQUEST_CANCELLED. IIUC, the semantics of CANCEL_PUSH can be (or can be) exactly the same as REQUEST_CANCELLED after the client has sent the entire request.

Clarification, do you mean:

  1. replace the HTTP_PUSH_REFUSED error with HTTP_REQUEST_CANCELLED error?
  2. remove CANCEL_PUSH frame altogether and replace the function by sending a STOP_SENDING with HTTP_REQUEST_CANCELLED error?

I don't think option 2 is possible, the purpose of CANCEL_PUSH frame is to stop pushes before any stream is created - at that point there is no stream ID to reference.

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Also, option 1 then deviates from HTTP/2 that had "REFUSED_STREAM" and "CANCEL" error codes/

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -2174,8 +2174,7 @@ NO_ERROR (0x0):
 : HTTP_NO_ERROR in {{http-error-codes}}.
 
 PROTOCOL_ERROR (0x1):
-: No single mapping.  See new HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME error codes defined in
-  {{http-error-codes}}.
+: HTTP_GENERAL_PROTOCOL ERROR in {{http-error-codes}}.

Maybe I should have stated that the removal of "No single mapping." is concerning, because IIUC we do not have one-to-one mapping between PROTOCOL_ERROR (of HTTP/2) and HTTP_GENEAL_PROTOCOL error (of HTTP/3).

What I had in mind is something like "Split into a few error codes, including HTTP_GENERAL_PROTOCOL, HTTP_WRONG_STREAM, HTTP_UNEXPECTED_FRAME, HTTP_CLOSED_CRITICAL_STREAM."

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Apologies. I meant option 1.

Also, option 1 then deviates from HTTP/2 that had "REFUSED_STREAM" and "CANCEL" error codes.

REFUSED_STREAM (of HTTP/2) maps to HTTP_REQUEST_REJECTED (of HTTP/3). CANCEL (of HTTP/2) maps to HTTP_REQUEST_CANCELLED (of HTTP/3).

Therefore, it is safe to combine HTTP_PUSH_REFUSED to HTTP_REQUEST_CANCELLED.

HTTP_PUSH_REFUSED error is used after the server processes the request, therefore the semantics is same as CANCELL, not REFUSED_STREAM.

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That is fine. I'm wondering if we should warn about DoS attack if this detection is done sloppily?

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -2174,8 +2174,7 @@ NO_ERROR (0x0):
 : HTTP_NO_ERROR in {{http-error-codes}}.
 
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-: No single mapping.  See new HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME error codes defined in
-  {{http-error-codes}}.
+: HTTP_GENERAL_PROTOCOL ERROR in {{http-error-codes}}.

Thanks, I agree and would like to adopt that text. The annoying thing is that it add more references to error codes I'm looking to consolidate but I can try to update the text to match the state of the draft as the PRs get merged.

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Thanks for checking. Yeah I think we have already gone into the weeds by describing one example. I'd rather prefer removing the MAY section as a whole rather than further expanding it.

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In HTTP/3 Appendix A.4 it states :

REFUSED_STREAM (0x7):
: HTTP_REQUEST_REJECTED (in {{http-error-codes}}) is used to indicate that a
request was not processed. Otherwise, not applicable because QUIC handles
stream management. A STREAM_ID_ERROR at the QUIC layer is used for streams
that are improperly opened.

But STREAM_ID_ERROR was removed in transport draft 17.

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Thanks for clarifying, I agree with this and will incorporate it into this PR.

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  • 54e6a0c Apply Kazuho's suggestion to replace HTTP_PUSH_REFUSED with HTTP_REQUEST_CANCELLED

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----==_mimepart_5d0a412a1cfd4_724f3fdbddccd9602212b5-- From nobody Wed Jun 19 07:46:46 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FA37120611 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2019 07:46:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.391 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.391 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A9GlPetY0-fe for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2019 07:46:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 65EDD120686 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2019 07:46:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2019 07:46:33 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1560955593; bh=NEUBTqdgDDftKLBF5pktoIjyxfHLgcvK6uAWQT9vi4Y=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=e/JT0u5nOijNKIE/sSvrDcTmpmmVuUbs9IddPubXvY+3AP6ZHl716iAre9sMXyvaQ B0x5r8fskisbqP8eAgqIfEUhk2Lz1WAlOL2vj5EMNLGsZfLnxGpkrZ9DBDrDxqflqB zXcYK5XTxduRxm7h9WlnRGAI9cMZ7t6OBcDw5aVg= From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Handling RESET_STREAM and STOP_SENDING with invalid error codes (#2816) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d0a4ac932b99_46283f91ee2cd96c148649"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2019 14:46:44 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d0a4ac932b99_46283f91ee2cd96c148649 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The HTTP/3 spec is a little light on detail about processing an error code that should have never been sent. At @MikeBishop's suggestion, this issue is scoped to discussion of HTTP/3 stream errors: > If a stream sees a RESET/STOP_SENDING with an error code that a) should only have originated from your side, or b) can only be a connection error, what do you do? Example a) a client receives a STOP_SENDING with HTTP_REQUEST_CANCELLED Example b) a server receives a RESET_STREAM with HTTP_LIMIT_EXCEEDED -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2816 ----==_mimepart_5d0a4ac932b99_46283f91ee2cd96c148649 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The HTTP/3 spec is a little light on detail about processing an error code that should have never been sent. At @MikeBishop's suggestion, this issue is scoped to discussion of HTTP/3 stream errors:

If a stream sees a RESET/STOP_SENDING with an error code that a) should only have originated from your side, or b) can only be a connection error, what do you do?

Example a) a client receives a STOP_SENDING with HTTP_REQUEST_CANCELLED
Example b) a server receives a RESET_STREAM with HTTP_LIMIT_EXCEEDED

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An intermediary that converts between HTTP/2 and HTTP/3 is likely to end up needing to propagate errors between the protocols. We don't have much guidance for this.

Some points from the mailing list discussion on this:

  • Suspect an intermediary that receives error codes from the upstream would convert many of these to 502 errors
  • The REJECTED error code is a possible exception to the above behaviour
  • It may be preferable to propagate "temporary" errors (REFUSED_STREAM) and CONNECT_ERROR (the use case related to websocket usage, although there is no formal HTTP/3 websockets yet).

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Multiple - QUIC packets can be encapsulated in a single UDP datagram. +: A complete processable payload with a packet type, encryption level and Structure? Sequence of octets? Or drop it entirely and define a packet as a header, payload, and authentication tag in that order. > @@ -335,8 +337,9 @@ the flow control limits set by its peer. Flow control is described in detail in Stream multiplexing can have a significant effect on application performance if resources allocated to streams are correctly prioritized. -QUIC does not provide frames for exchanging prioritization information. Instead -it relies on receiving priority information from the application that uses QUIC. +QUIC does not provide a mechanism for exchanging prioritization information. +Instead it relies on receiving priority information from the application that ```suggestion Instead, it relies on receiving priority information from the application that ``` > @@ -335,8 +337,9 @@ the flow control limits set by its peer. 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Looks good!

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1595,9 +1595,10 @@ HTTP_NO_ERROR (0x00):
 : No error.  This is used when the connection or stream needs to be closed, but
   there is no error to signal.
 
-HTTP_WRONG_SETTING_DIRECTION (0x01):
-: A client-only setting was sent by a server, or a server-only setting by a
-  client.
+HTTP_SETTINGS_ERROR (0x01):
+: An endpoint detected an error with a SETTINGS frame: a duplicate setting was
+  detected, a client-only setting was sent by a server, or a server-only setting
+  by a client.

The suggestion to move HTTP_GENERAL_PROTOCOL_ERROR to 0x01 might be worth taking at the same time, since people are going to change which error to use for these anyway. (Also, I just noticed that GPE is missing from the IANA table.)

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1902,7 +1903,7 @@ The entries in the following table are registered by this document.
 | Name                                | Code       | Description                              | Specification          |
 | ----------------------------------- | ---------- | ---------------------------------------- | ---------------------- |
 | HTTP_NO_ERROR                       | 0x0000     | No error                                 | {{http-error-codes}}   |
-| HTTP_WRONG_SETTING_DIRECTION        | 0x0001     | Setting sent in wrong direction          | {{http-error-codes}}   |
+| HTTP_SETTINGS_ERROR                 | 0x0001     | Setting duplication or wrong direction   | {{http-error-codes}}   |

I'd be more general -- SETTINGS frame contained invalid values, or something like that. It's anything that could go wrong with that frame's payload.

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@MikeBishop requested changes on this pull request.

Is there a reason to reserve the error codes we remove?

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -785,10 +785,9 @@ amount of data a server may commit to the pushed stream.
 
 If a promised server push is not needed by the client, the client SHOULD send a
 CANCEL_PUSH frame. If the push stream is already open or opens after sending the
-CANCEL_PUSH frame, a QUIC STOP_SENDING frame with an appropriate error code can
-also be used (e.g., HTTP_PUSH_REFUSED, HTTP_PUSH_ALREADY_IN_CACHE; see
-{{errors}}). This asks the server not to transfer additional data and indicates
-that it will be discarded upon receipt.
+CANCEL_PUSH frame, a QUIC STOP_SENDING frame with an error code of
+HTTP_PUSH_REFUSED. This asks the server not to transfer additional data and

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1595,9 +1595,10 @@ HTTP_NO_ERROR (0x00):
 : No error.  This is used when the connection or stream needs to be closed, but
   there is no error to signal.
 
-HTTP_WRONG_SETTING_DIRECTION (0x01):
-: A client-only setting was sent by a server, or a server-only setting by a
-  client.
+HTTP_SETTINGS_ERROR (0x01):
+: An endpoint detected an error with a SETTINGS frame: a duplicate setting was
+  detected, a client-only setting was sent by a server, or a server-only setting
+  by a client.

That was my initial intention but I thought it might make life harder. However, life is hard regardless so I'll try it out.

(Also, I just noticed that GPE is missing from the IANA table.)

You reminded me that I fixed this on the MALFORMED_FRAME PR. It makes sense to fix that here though while shuffling things around.

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Not an issue, just an observation. #2690 added text saying that the client can neither reprioritize nor refer to the orphan placeholder. With this change, we've made it really easy to refer to the orphan placeholder -- any large-numbered placeholder does. (And if you misfire and pick a placeholder that actually could exist, if you've never prioritized it, its parent will be the orphan placeholder, so same thing.)

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1595,9 +1595,10 @@ HTTP_NO_ERROR (0x00):
 : No error.  This is used when the connection or stream needs to be closed, but
   there is no error to signal.
 
-HTTP_WRONG_SETTING_DIRECTION (0x01):
-: A client-only setting was sent by a server, or a server-only setting by a
-  client.
+HTTP_SETTINGS_ERROR (0x01):
+: An endpoint detected an error with a SETTINGS frame: a duplicate setting was
+  detected, a client-only setting was sent by a server, or a server-only setting
+  by a client.

Thanks, fixed.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1902,7 +1903,7 @@ The entries in the following table are registered by this document.
 | Name                                | Code       | Description                              | Specification          |
 | ----------------------------------- | ---------- | ---------------------------------------- | ---------------------- |
 | HTTP_NO_ERROR                       | 0x0000     | No error                                 | {{http-error-codes}}   |
-| HTTP_WRONG_SETTING_DIRECTION        | 0x0001     | Setting sent in wrong direction          | {{http-error-codes}}   |
+| HTTP_SETTINGS_ERROR                 | 0x0001     | Setting duplication or wrong direction   | {{http-error-codes}}   |

Thanks, fixed.

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Once complete, I would then defrag it on a PR that let's people weigh in on which error code should have which number. (It also simplifies dependencies which having branches off branches) Happy to do something different if you want. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2813#issuecomment-503664852 ----==_mimepart_5d0a76e9eda38_a003fe631acd9681030dd Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

My intention was to keep PRs somewhat atomic and fragment the error code space in each PR that separately removes or consolidates an error code.

Once complete, I would then defrag it on a PR that let's people weigh in on which error code should have which number.

(It also simplifies dependencies which having branches off branches)

Happy to do something different if you want.

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The stream is gone, regardless of the error code. If it was a critical stream, then CLOSED_CRITICAL_STREAM; otherwise, perhaps a MAY GENERAL_PROTOCOL_ERROR? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2816#issuecomment-503673056 ----==_mimepart_5d0a7c3e99a8b_770c3fba8accd95c34959c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I'm mostly inclined to treat this with the same fatalism as an invalid code in an APPLICATION_CLOSE code that makes no sense. The stream is gone, regardless of the error code. If it was a critical stream, then CLOSED_CRITICAL_STREAM; otherwise, perhaps a MAY GENERAL_PROTOCOL_ERROR?

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@marten-seemann I'm not sure what you mean by "realistic scenario". The only property we need from a stateless reset is that it could be real traffic. The fact that it's unlikely traffic is not really relevant. The stateless reset is already going to stick out due to the fact that there are no subsequent packets after it since it closes the connection.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2860,12 +2860,13 @@ valid frames? -->
 ### Sending ACK Frames
 
 An endpoint MUST NOT send more than one packet containing only an ACK frame per
-received packet that contains frames other than ACK and PADDING frames.
-An endpoint MUST NOT send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response
-to a packet containing only ACK or PADDING frames, even if there are packet
-gaps which precede the received packet. This prevents an indefinite feedback
-loop of ACKs. The endpoint MUST however acknowledge packets containing only
-ACK or PADDING frames when sending ACK frames in response to other packets.
+received non-ACK-eliciting packet(ie: one containing only ACK and/or PADDING

This text is actually backwards, fixing it to remove the non

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2883,16 +2884,21 @@ needing acknowledgement are received.  The sender can use the receiver's
 Strategies and implications of the frequency of generating acknowledgments are
 discussed in more detail in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.
 
+An endpoint that is only sending ACK frames will not receive acknowledgments

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However, you've dropped the requirement to immediately perform a key update when you unprotect with the next key phase. How about changing the start of the second to last paragraph to something like: ``` If the packet can be unprotected using the next receive key and IV, then the endpoint switches to the next key phase: both send and receive keys associated with the next key phase become current. The next packet sent by the endpoint MUST then use the new send key. Once an endpoint has sent a packet... ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2791#issuecomment-503752866 ----==_mimepart_5d0aa883e8be1_5ee43f7e42ecd95c81518c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@kazuho Thanks, I like the text referring to key phases and corresponding keys rather than keys directly.

However, you've dropped the requirement to immediately perform a key update when you unprotect with the next key phase. How about changing the start of the second to last paragraph to something like:

If the packet can be unprotected using the next receive key and IV, then the
endpoint switches to the next key phase: both send and receive keys associated
with the next key phase become current. The next packet sent by the endpoint
MUST then use the new send key. Once an endpoint has sent a packet...

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1664,9 +1664,10 @@ HTTP_UNEXPECTED_FRAME (0x0013):
 HTTP_REQUEST_REJECTED (0x0014):
 : A server rejected a request without performing any application processing.
 
-HTTP_GENERAL_PROTOCOL_ERROR (0x00FF):
-: Peer violated protocol requirements in a way which doesn't match a more
-  specific error code, or endpoint declines to use the more specific error code.
+HTTP_SETTINGS_ERROR (0x00FF):
+: An endpoint detected an error with a SETTINGS frame: a duplicate setting was

Maybe "detected an error in the payload of a SETTINGS frame"?

I suggest this assuming that HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME is the error code to be used when seeing a badly-formatted SETTINGS frame (for example a SETTINGS frame carrying one byte of data: 0xff).

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@kazuho approved this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -785,10 +785,9 @@ amount of data a server may commit to the pushed stream.
 
 If a promised server push is not needed by the client, the client SHOULD send a
 CANCEL_PUSH frame. If the push stream is already open or opens after sending the
-CANCEL_PUSH frame, a QUIC STOP_SENDING frame with an appropriate error code can

To me the subject and the verb being omitted in this sentence was a bit surprising, but that might be due to me not being a native speaker.

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@DavidSchinazi Thank you for checking. I missed your change in that paragraph. The suggested text looks fine, I've incorporated it in 1768b35.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -785,10 +785,9 @@ amount of data a server may commit to the pushed stream.
 
 If a promised server push is not needed by the client, the client SHOULD send a
 CANCEL_PUSH frame. If the push stream is already open or opens after sending the
-CANCEL_PUSH frame, a QUIC STOP_SENDING frame with an appropriate error code can

It is an error, thanks for picking it up. I would convert this to

"a QUIC STOP_SENDING frame with an error code of HTTP_REQUEST_CANCELLED can be used."

Alternatively, elsewhere we talk about "triggering QUIC STOP_SENDING" which is under review as part of @MikeBishop #2805

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This is fine, and it merely reflects reality: older tokens are less likely to be useful. But there is no harm in attempting to use any token, provided that it hasn't been used before.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1664,9 +1664,10 @@ HTTP_UNEXPECTED_FRAME (0x0013):
 HTTP_REQUEST_REJECTED (0x0014):
 : A server rejected a request without performing any application processing.
 
-HTTP_GENERAL_PROTOCOL_ERROR (0x00FF):
-: Peer violated protocol requirements in a way which doesn't match a more
-  specific error code, or endpoint declines to use the more specific error code.
+HTTP_SETTINGS_ERROR (0x00FF):
+: An endpoint detected an error with a SETTINGS frame: a duplicate setting was

I added you suggestion for payload.

The ultimate goal is to replace MALFORMED_FRAME with FRAME_SIZE_ERROR. That should cover the case you mention. At that point in time we an add some text to suggest which type of error code should be used.

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These changes all look helpful. I left some minor comments, that may be more about the spec than the changes (sorry). A more general subjective opinion. In the HTTP/3 spec, each frame description starts as "The XYZ frame (type=0xABC) is used to do ". I find the style of describing instructions, "To do a thing, an instruction starting with the pattern ABC is used" a little jarring. > ## Encoder -An encoder compresses a header list by emitting either an indexed or a literal -representation for each header field in the list. References to the static -table and literal representations do not require any dynamic state and never -risk head-of-line blocking. References to the dynamic table risk head-of-line +An encoder compresses a header list into a header block by emitting either an +indexed or a literal representation for each header field in the list (see Does it always compress? I.e. could a dumb encoder make bad choices? > @@ -327,37 +312,86 @@ instructions received on the encoder stream. The decoder MUST emit header fields in the order their representations appear in the input header block. +### Blocked Decoding + +Upon receipt of a header block, the decoder examines the Required Insert Count. +When the Required Insert Count is less than or equal to the decoder's Insert +Count, the header block can be processed immediately. Otherwise, the stream is noob clarification question: I think this is the stream on which the header block was delivered, maybe it would help to be explicit? > @@ -327,37 +312,86 @@ instructions received on the encoder stream. The decoder MUST emit header fields in the order their representations appear in the input header block. +### Blocked Decoding + +Upon receipt of a header block, the decoder examines the Required Insert Count. +When the Required Insert Count is less than or equal to the decoder's Insert +Count, the header block can be processed immediately. Otherwise, the stream is +blocked. + +While blocked, header block data SHOULD remain in the blocked stream's flow +control window. A stream becomes unblocked when the Insert Count becomes +greater than or equal to the Required Insert Count for all header blocks the +decoder has started reading from the stream. + + +If the decoder encounters a header block with a Required Insert Count value +larger than defined in {{blocked-streams}}, it MAY treat this as a connection I'm not sure what this value is when I look back. Is the error when Required Insert Count is greater than "one larger than the largest absolute index"? > +When the Required Insert Count is less than or equal to the decoder's Insert +Count, the header block can be processed immediately. Otherwise, the stream is +blocked. + +While blocked, header block data SHOULD remain in the blocked stream's flow +control window. A stream becomes unblocked when the Insert Count becomes +greater than or equal to the Required Insert Count for all header blocks the +decoder has started reading from the stream. + + +If the decoder encounters a header block with a Required Insert Count value +larger than defined in {{blocked-streams}}, it MAY treat this as a connection +error of type HTTP_QPACK_DECOMPRESSION_FAILED. If the decoder encounters a +header block with a Required Insert Count value smaller than defined in +{{blocked-streams}}, it MUST treat this as a connection error of type +HTTP_QPACK_DECOMPRESSION_FAILED as prescribed in {{invalid-references}}. Would it be clearer to phrase the paragraph something like: "when processing header blocks the decoder expects the Required Insert Count value to exactly match the value defined in {{blocked streams}. If it encounters a smaller value, it MUST treat this as a connection error of type HTTP_QPACK_DECOMPRESSION_FAILED. If it encounters a larger value, it MAY treat this as a connection error of type HTTP_QPACK_DECOMPRESSION_FAILED." > ### State Synchronization -The decoder instructions ({{decoder-instructions}}) signal key events at the -decoder that permit the encoder to track the decoder's state. These events are: +The decoder signals the following key events by emitting decoder instructions +({{decoder-instructions}}) on the decoder stream. + +#### Completed Processing of a Header Block + +When the decoder finishes decoding a header block containing dynamic table +references, it emits a Header Acknowledgement instruction +({{header-acknowledgement}}). The same Stream ID can be identified by multiple +Header Acknowledgement instructions, as multiple header blocks can be sent on a +single stream in the case of intermediate responses, trailers, and pushed +requests. Since frames carrying header blocks on each stream are received and +processed in order, this gives the encoder precise feedback on which header +blocks within a stream have been fully processed. If I understand this correctly, I offer the follow as a suggested change: "When the decoder finishes decoding a header block containing dynamic table references, it emits a Header Acknowledgement instruction ({{header-acknowledgement}}). A stream may carry multiple header blocks in the case of intermediate responses, trailers, and pushed requests. Emitting multiple Header Acknowledgements for the same stream, when each frame is completely processed in order, gives the encoder precise feedback. > + +When the decoder finishes decoding a header block containing dynamic table +references, it emits a Header Acknowledgement instruction +({{header-acknowledgement}}). The same Stream ID can be identified by multiple +Header Acknowledgement instructions, as multiple header blocks can be sent on a +single stream in the case of intermediate responses, trailers, and pushed +requests. Since frames carrying header blocks on each stream are received and +processed in order, this gives the encoder precise feedback on which header +blocks within a stream have been fully processed. + +#### Abandonment of a Stream + +When an endpoint receives a stream reset before the end of a stream or before +all header blocks are processed on that stream, or when it abandons reading of a +stream, it generates a Stream Cancellation instruction (see +{{stream-cancellation}}). This signals to the encoder that all references to is this all unacknowledged references? > + +When the decoder finishes decoding a header block containing dynamic table +references, it emits a Header Acknowledgement instruction +({{header-acknowledgement}}). The same Stream ID can be identified by multiple +Header Acknowledgement instructions, as multiple header blocks can be sent on a +single stream in the case of intermediate responses, trailers, and pushed +requests. Since frames carrying header blocks on each stream are received and +processed in order, this gives the encoder precise feedback on which header +blocks within a stream have been fully processed. + +#### Abandonment of a Stream + +When an endpoint receives a stream reset before the end of a stream or before +all header blocks are processed on that stream, or when it abandons reading of a +stream, it generates a Stream Cancellation instruction (see +{{stream-cancellation}}). This signals to the encoder that all references to Oh is that what the following paragraph is trying to articulate? > -The decoder chooses when to emit Insert Count Increment instructions (see +After receiving new table entries on the encoder stream, the decoder chooses +when to emit Insert Count Increment instructions (see {{insert-count-increment}}). Emitting an instruction after adding each new should it be "this instruction" or could it be *any* instruction type. > ### Insert With Name Reference -An addition to the header table where the header field name matches the header -field name of an entry stored in the static table or the dynamic table starts -with the '1' one-bit pattern. The `S` bit indicates whether the reference is to -the static (S=1) or dynamic (S=0) table. The 6-bit prefix integer (see Section -5.1 of [RFC7541]) that follows is used to locate the table entry for the header -name. When S=1, the number represents the static table index; when S=0, the -number is the relative index of the entry in the dynamic table. +An encoder adds an entry to the dynamic table where the header field name +matches the header field name of an entry stored in the static table or the ```suggestion matches the header field name of an entry stored in the static or the ``` you omit this later anyway. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2759#pullrequestreview-252255145 ----==_mimepart_5d0b900dd91ed_3f123f9447ccd95c598344 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@LPardue approved this pull request.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

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If I understand this correctly, I offer the follow as a suggested chan= ge:

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"When the decoder finishes decoding a header block containing dynamic = table
=0D references, it emits a Header Acknowledgement instruction
=0D ({{header-acknowledgement}}). A stream may carry multiple header blocks<= br>=0D in the case of intermediate responses, trailers, and pushed
=0D requests. Emitting multiple Header Acknowledgements for the same stream,<= br>=0D when each frame is completely processed in order, gives the encoder preci= se
=0D feedback.

=0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

=0D 
> +=0D
+When the decoder finishes decoding a header block containing dynamic tab=
le=0D
+references, it emits a Header Acknowledgement instruction=0D
+({{header-acknowledgement}}).  The same Stream ID can be identified by m=
ultiple=0D
+Header Acknowledgement instructions, as multiple header blocks can be se=
nt on a=0D
+single stream in the case of intermediate responses, trailers, and pushe=
d=0D
+requests.  Since frames carrying header blocks on each stream are receiv=
ed and=0D
+processed in order, this gives the encoder precise feedback on which hea=
der=0D
+blocks within a stream have been fully processed.=0D
+=0D
+#### Abandonment of a Stream=0D
+=0D
+When an endpoint receives a stream reset before the end of a stream or b=
efore=0D
+all header blocks are processed on that stream, or when it abandons read=
ing of a=0D
+stream, it generates a Stream Cancellation instruction (see=0D
+{{stream-cancellation}}).  This signals to the encoder that all referenc=
es to=0D
=0D

is this all unacknowledged references?

=0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

=0D 
> +=0D
+When the decoder finishes decoding a header block containing dynamic tab=
le=0D
+references, it emits a Header Acknowledgement instruction=0D
+({{header-acknowledgement}}).  The same Stream ID can be identified by m=
ultiple=0D
+Header Acknowledgement instructions, as multiple header blocks can be se=
nt on a=0D
+single stream in the case of intermediate responses, trailers, and pushe=
d=0D
+requests.  Since frames carrying header blocks on each stream are receiv=
ed and=0D
+processed in order, this gives the encoder precise feedback on which hea=
der=0D
+blocks within a stream have been fully processed.=0D
+=0D
+#### Abandonment of a Stream=0D
+=0D
+When an endpoint receives a stream reset before the end of a stream or b=
efore=0D
+all header blocks are processed on that stream, or when it abandons read=
ing of a=0D
+stream, it generates a Stream Cancellation instruction (see=0D
+{{stream-cancellation}}).  This signals to the encoder that all referenc=
es to=0D
=0D

Oh is that what the following paragraph is trying to articulate?

=0D= =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

=0D 
>  =0D
-The decoder chooses when to emit Insert Count Increment instructions (se=
e=0D
+After receiving new table entries on the encoder stream, the decoder cho=
oses=0D
+when to emit Insert Count Increment instructions (see=0D
 {{insert-count-increment}}). Emitting an instruction after adding each n=
ew=0D
=0D

should it be "this instruction" or could it be any instructio= n type.

=0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

=0D 
>  ### Insert With Name Reference=0D
 =0D
-An addition to the header table where the header field name matches the =
header=0D
-field name of an entry stored in the static table or the dynamic table s=
tarts=0D
-with the '1' one-bit pattern.  The `S` bit indicates whether the=
 reference is to=0D
-the static (S=3D1) or dynamic (S=3D0) table. The 6-bit prefix integer (s=
ee Section=0D
-5.1 of [RFC7541]) that follows is used to locate the table entry for the=
 header=0D
-name.  When S=3D1, the number represents the static table index; when S=3D=
0, the=0D
-number is the relative index of the entry in the dynamic table.=0D
+An encoder adds an entry to the dynamic table where the header field nam=
e=0D
+matches the header field name of an entry stored in the static table or =
the=0D
=0D =E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D 
-matches the header field name of an entry sto=
red in the static table or the=0D
+matches the header field name of an entry stored in the static or the=0D=
=0D =0D

you omit this later anyway.

=0D =0D

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There are presently a few cases where the Push ID can be used incorrectly. The table shows current error codes, proposes replacing the HTTP_DUPLICATE_PUSH with an HTTP_PUSH_ID_ERROR code. and replacing use of HTTP_MALFORMED frame.

Condition Current Proposed
Promise with ID larger than current limit HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME HTTP_LIMIT_EXCEEDED
Promise with ID already used HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME HTTP_PUSH_ID_ERROR
ID limit reduced HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME HTTP_PUSH_ID_ERROR
Duplicate promise with ID larger than current limit HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME HTTP_LIMIT_EXCEEDED
Push stream with ID already used HTTP_DUPLICATE_PUSH HTTP_PUSH_ID_ERROR

Note, on #2662 I suggested a slightly different solution to replace HTTP_MALFORMED FRAME, but I think this is a better path.

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I think there are some edge cases with the CANCEL_PUSH frame that we don't explain:

  • reception of a CANCEL_PUSH frame with ID greater than the current push limit
  • reception of CANCEL_PUSH with ID that has already been used

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Implements suggestions from #2818

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2820

Commit Summary

  • Refactor Push ID related errors

File Changes

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----==_mimepart_5d0bad869d0bd_54343fed066cd968910fd-- From nobody Thu Jun 20 09:03:27 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CEF91200B2 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2019 09:03:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.008 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.008 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id l2sSWCwC8UaE for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2019 09:03:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5DB3F120019 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2019 09:03:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2019 09:03:22 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561046602; bh=x8HLe361NRxyejT7+d90F24ogiKwDle4nceWeHdc4T8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=1FMOFY0c0CBydN4zXyAS31sLUnUiADmJQv/buLxa4G/GZlF5oopo2qVbOxKLVRDrw Ste517/mLXWmiDjhzggLi06g0Fh9usAZM6k4g4NQ8e964PeTjfFd3aoxok5tP/nsTB XRz2Esn8em6hZyvlQ2h0ihVI9EJdDlKcfTY3t0Oo= From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rationalize HTTP/3 stream creation errors (#2821) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d0bae4a3b3da_75033fbc0b0cd968984bc"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2019 16:03:26 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d0bae4a3b3da_75033fbc0b0cd968984bc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There are presently several kinds of very similar error when creating streams: 1. HTTP_UNKNOWN_STREAM_TYPE MAY be used to tell a peer to STOP_SENDING on a stream type that is unknown by the local peer. It is **not** a connection error. 2. HTTP_WRONG_STREAM_COUNT MUST be used if a peer tries to open more than one critical stream (control, QPACK). Connection error. 3. HTTP_WRONG_STREAM_DIRECTION MUST be used if a client tries to open a push stream. More generally this could be used if a peer attempts to open a stream type that is not allowed to, but push is the only example today. Connection error. 4. HTTP_DUPLICATE_PUSH MUST be used if you open multiple push streams. The suggestion is to rationalize these into a single error code - HTTP_STREAM_CREATION_ERROR - that can be used in STOP_SENDING or CLOSE_CONNECTION. The impact of merging _COUNT and _DIRECTION is minimal because implementations fundamentally have to open streams correctly in order to interop. PS. The eagle eyes will notice I omitted the HTTP_DUPLICATE_PUSH creation error. This is on the chopping block in #2818. I class it differently because it is about parsing information **after** the stream type. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2821 ----==_mimepart_5d0bae4a3b3da_75033fbc0b0cd968984bc Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

There are presently several kinds of very similar error when creating streams:

  1. HTTP_UNKNOWN_STREAM_TYPE MAY be used to tell a peer to STOP_SENDING on a stream type that is unknown by the local peer. It is not a connection error.
  2. HTTP_WRONG_STREAM_COUNT MUST be used if a peer tries to open more than one critical stream (control, QPACK). Connection error.
  3. HTTP_WRONG_STREAM_DIRECTION MUST be used if a client tries to open a push stream. More generally this could be used if a peer attempts to open a stream type that is not allowed to, but push is the only example today. Connection error.
  4. HTTP_DUPLICATE_PUSH MUST be used if you open multiple push streams.

The suggestion is to rationalize these into a single error code - HTTP_STREAM_CREATION_ERROR - that can be used in STOP_SENDING or CLOSE_CONNECTION.

The impact of merging _COUNT and _DIRECTION is minimal because implementations fundamentally have to open streams correctly in order to interop.

PS. The eagle eyes will notice I omitted the HTTP_DUPLICATE_PUSH creation error. This is on the chopping block in #2818. I class it differently because it is about parsing information after the stream type.

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@nibanks commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -994,6 +994,22 @@ packets sent from only one local address.  An endpoint that migrates away from a
 local address SHOULD retire all connection IDs used on that address once it no
 longer plans to use that address.
 
+An endpoint can request that its peer retire connection IDs by sending a
+NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame with an increased Retire Prior To field.  Upon receipt,

I prefer the text I have already.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4984,6 +4999,12 @@ Sequence Number:
 : The sequence number assigned to the connection ID by the sender.  See
   {{issue-cid}}.
 
+Retire Prior To:
+
+: A variable-length integer specifying the limit for which all connection IDs
+  assigned to the receiver that have a sequence number less than this value
+  should be retired.  See {{retiring-cids}}.

The text below already species this must be <=. As improving the text, I agree it's a bit wordy. Do you have any specific suggestions for improving it?

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Fixes #2821

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

>  
 ## Encoder
 
-An encoder compresses a header list by emitting either an indexed or a literal
-representation for each header field in the list.  References to the static
-table and literal representations do not require any dynamic state and never
-risk head-of-line blocking.  References to the dynamic table risk head-of-line
+An encoder compresses a header list into a header block by emitting either an
+indexed or a literal representation for each header field in the list (see

"encodes," "represents"? But regardless, this isn't new text in this change.

In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

>  
 An encoder MUST NOT insert an entry into the dynamic table (or duplicate an
-existing entry) if doing so would evict a blocking entry.  In this case, the
-encoder can send literal representations of header fields.
+existing entry) if doing so would evict a blocking entry.  An encoder can always
+send literal representations of header fields when the dynamic table is full

Perhaps just omit "when the dynamic table..."? It's true universally, regardless of the dynamic table state.

In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

>  
-The decoder chooses when to emit Insert Count Increment instructions (see
+After receiving new table entries on the encoder stream, the decoder chooses
+when to emit Insert Count Increment instructions (see
 {{insert-count-increment}}). Emitting an instruction after adding each new

This instruction, you're right.

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The decoder MUST emit header fields in the order their representations appear in the input header block. +### Blocked Decoding + +Upon receipt of a header block, the decoder examines the Required Insert Count. +When the Required Insert Count is less than or equal to the decoder's Insert +Count, the header block can be processed immediately. Otherwise, the stream is +blocked. + +While blocked, header block data SHOULD remain in the blocked stream's flow +control window. A stream becomes unblocked when the Insert Count becomes +greater than or equal to the Required Insert Count for all header blocks the +decoder has started reading from the stream. + + +If the decoder encounters a header block with a Required Insert Count value +larger than defined in {{blocked-streams}}, it MAY treat this as a connection The intent is to say that, when you actually process the block, if there was no reference to the entry the RIC said you needed, then the peer's encoder is broken. Blow up. > +When the Required Insert Count is less than or equal to the decoder's Insert +Count, the header block can be processed immediately. Otherwise, the stream is +blocked. + +While blocked, header block data SHOULD remain in the blocked stream's flow +control window. A stream becomes unblocked when the Insert Count becomes +greater than or equal to the Required Insert Count for all header blocks the +decoder has started reading from the stream. + + +If the decoder encounters a header block with a Required Insert Count value +larger than defined in {{blocked-streams}}, it MAY treat this as a connection +error of type HTTP_QPACK_DECOMPRESSION_FAILED. If the decoder encounters a +header block with a Required Insert Count value smaller than defined in +{{blocked-streams}}, it MUST treat this as a connection error of type +HTTP_QPACK_DECOMPRESSION_FAILED as prescribed in {{invalid-references}}. Yes -- the general error case is that the RIC didn't match the actual contents of the header block; deviation in any direction is an error, even if you were in fact able to decode all the headers. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2759#pullrequestreview-252419606 ----==_mimepart_5d0bbe012727e_237d3fd4460cd9602841fd Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@MikeBishop commented on this pull request.

@LPardue has noted something that's confusing here, albeit not really new text.

In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -327,37 +312,86 @@ instructions received on the encoder stream.
 The decoder MUST emit header fields in the order their representations appear in
 the input header block.
 
+### Blocked Decoding
+
+Upon receipt of a header block, the decoder examines the Required Insert Count.
+When the Required Insert Count is less than or equal to the decoder's Insert
+Count, the header block can be processed immediately.  Otherwise, the stream is
+blocked.
+
+While blocked, header block data SHOULD remain in the blocked stream's flow
+control window.  A stream becomes unblocked when the Insert Count becomes
+greater than or equal to the Required Insert Count for all header blocks the
+decoder has started reading from the stream.
+<!-- doesn't the stream become unblocked when the encoder receives the acks? -->
+
+If the decoder encounters a header block with a Required Insert Count value
+larger than defined in {{blocked-streams}}, it MAY treat this as a connection

The intent is to say that, when you actually process the block, if there was no reference to the entry the RIC said you needed, then the peer's encoder is broken. Blow up.

In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> +When the Required Insert Count is less than or equal to the decoder's Insert
+Count, the header block can be processed immediately.  Otherwise, the stream is
+blocked.
+
+While blocked, header block data SHOULD remain in the blocked stream's flow
+control window.  A stream becomes unblocked when the Insert Count becomes
+greater than or equal to the Required Insert Count for all header blocks the
+decoder has started reading from the stream.
+<!-- doesn't the stream become unblocked when the encoder receives the acks? -->
+
+If the decoder encounters a header block with a Required Insert Count value
+larger than defined in {{blocked-streams}}, it MAY treat this as a connection
+error of type HTTP_QPACK_DECOMPRESSION_FAILED.  If the decoder encounters a
+header block with a Required Insert Count value smaller than defined in
+{{blocked-streams}}, it MUST treat this as a connection error of type
+HTTP_QPACK_DECOMPRESSION_FAILED as prescribed in {{invalid-references}}.

Yes -- the general error case is that the RIC didn't match the actual contents of the header block; deviation in any direction is an error, even if you were in fact able to decode all the headers.

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These events are: +The decoder signals the following key events by emitting decoder instructions +({{decoder-instructions}}) on the decoder stream. + +#### Completed Processing of a Header Block + +When the decoder finishes decoding a header block containing dynamic table +references, it emits a Header Acknowledgement instruction +({{header-acknowledgement}}). The same Stream ID can be identified by multiple +Header Acknowledgement instructions, as multiple header blocks can be sent on a +single stream in the case of intermediate responses, trailers, and pushed +requests. Since frames carrying header blocks on each stream are received and +processed in order, this gives the encoder precise feedback on which header +blocks within a stream have been fully processed. Minor quibble with @LPardue's text: That seems to imply that header blocks on the stream might *not* be completely processed in order. Now, that's certainly possible to do (albeit not useful in most circumstances and not directly discussed in this doc), but acknowledgements always have to be in order here. > +#### Abandonment of a Stream + +When an endpoint receives a stream reset before the end of a stream or before +all header blocks are processed on that stream, or when it abandons reading of a +stream, it generates a Stream Cancellation instruction (see +{{stream-cancellation}}). This signals to the encoder that all references to +the dynamic table on that stream are no longer outstanding. A decoder with a +maximum dynamic table capacity equal to zero (see +{{maximum-dynamic-table-capacity}}) MAY omit sending Stream Cancellations, +because the encoder cannot have any dynamic table references. An encoder cannot +infer from this instruction that any updates to the dynamic table have been +received. + +The Header Acknowledgement and Stream Cancellation instructions permit the +encoder to evict entries to which no unacknowledged references remain (see +{{blocked-insertion}}). This wording feels weird. Entries without unacknowledged references can always be evicted. The instructions acknowledge the references themselves. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2759#pullrequestreview-252422522 ----==_mimepart_5d0bbf8da28ca_3d733fb86facd96c250432 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

>  
 ### State Synchronization
 
-The decoder instructions ({{decoder-instructions}}) signal key events at the
-decoder that permit the encoder to track the decoder's state.  These events are:
+The decoder signals the following key events by emitting decoder instructions
+({{decoder-instructions}}) on the decoder stream.
+
+#### Completed Processing of a Header Block
+
+When the decoder finishes decoding a header block containing dynamic table
+references, it emits a Header Acknowledgement instruction
+({{header-acknowledgement}}).  The same Stream ID can be identified by multiple
+Header Acknowledgement instructions, as multiple header blocks can be sent on a
+single stream in the case of intermediate responses, trailers, and pushed
+requests.  Since frames carrying header blocks on each stream are received and
+processed in order, this gives the encoder precise feedback on which header
+blocks within a stream have been fully processed.

Minor quibble with @LPardue's text: That seems to imply that header blocks on the stream might not be completely processed in order. Now, that's certainly possible to do (albeit not useful in most circumstances and not directly discussed in this doc), but acknowledgements always have to be in order here.

In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> +#### Abandonment of a Stream
+
+When an endpoint receives a stream reset before the end of a stream or before
+all header blocks are processed on that stream, or when it abandons reading of a
+stream, it generates a Stream Cancellation instruction (see
+{{stream-cancellation}}).  This signals to the encoder that all references to
+the dynamic table on that stream are no longer outstanding.  A decoder with a
+maximum dynamic table capacity equal to zero (see
+{{maximum-dynamic-table-capacity}}) MAY omit sending Stream Cancellations,
+because the encoder cannot have any dynamic table references.  An encoder cannot
+infer from this instruction that any updates to the dynamic table have been
+received.
+
+The Header Acknowledgement and Stream Cancellation instructions permit the
+encoder to evict entries to which no unacknowledged references remain (see
+{{blocked-insertion}}).

This wording feels weird. Entries without unacknowledged references can always be evicted. The instructions acknowledge the references themselves.

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----==_mimepart_5d0bbf8da28ca_3d733fb86facd96c250432-- From nobody Thu Jun 20 10:32:37 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27089120026 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2019 10:32:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qGaGuCxU2Owp for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2019 10:32:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EABB71200F3 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2019 10:32:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2019 10:32:32 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561051952; bh=EkHsMnm25m3QG34OsxNjQbOU/4BpZ3Hg7gbQL7ckocs=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=TLI2Lp1IokV+Bq84uroDSNlCdtrMA6yvJST6N1lCGwm2dk3s6ks1jkdzwFJuh88Ll lswdxMoa9zDbqZnlJmLA+CEH6Ahj9xBBtMa4IzumfRR1it2OBqK9v3AB0n8m9tinME 3uoekyOPXBTTu0QeuRCeTFdnRzNz7iT/uDqW8zDc= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QPACK editorial revision (#2759) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d0bc33071fb4_23853fc51b2cd95c1187c1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2019 17:32:36 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d0bc33071fb4_23853fc51b2cd95c1187c1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MikeBishop commented on this pull request. > @@ -795,8 +797,10 @@ already been acknowledged, that MUST be treated as a connection error of type ### Stream Cancellation -The instruction begins with the '01' two-bit pattern. The instruction includes -the stream ID of the affected stream encoded as a 6-bit prefix integer. +When a stream is reset, the decoder emits a Stream Cancellation instruction. The ...or reading is abandoned (i.e. STOP_SENDING) > @@ -1035,17 +1038,19 @@ values that are not to be put at risk by compressing them (see Section 7.1 of ~~~~~~~~~~ {: title="Literal Header Field With Name Reference"} -For entries in the static table or in the dynamic table with an absolute index -less than the Base, the header field name is represented using the relative -index of that entry, which is represented as an integer with a 4-bit prefix (see -Section 5.1 of [RFC7541]). The `S` bit indicates whether the reference is to the -static (S=1) or dynamic (S=0) table. +The fourth (`S`) bit indicates whether the reference is to the static (S=1) or +dynamic (S=0) table. Finally, the header field name is represented using the +static or relative index of that entry, which is represented as an integer with We define relative, absolute, and post-base indices. We talk about "static table index" and "index into the static table". "Static table index" is used on line 656 of the current doc. This use of "static index" is a new variation. I suspect a reader could reasonably infer that they all mean the same thing -- obviously we all have -- but it might be nice to align the terminology and make sure it's defined somewhere. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2759#pullrequestreview-252428023 ----==_mimepart_5d0bc33071fb4_23853fc51b2cd95c1187c1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -795,8 +797,10 @@ already been acknowledged, that MUST be treated as a connection error of type
 
 ### Stream Cancellation
 
-The instruction begins with the '01' two-bit pattern. The instruction includes
-the stream ID of the affected stream encoded as a 6-bit prefix integer.
+When a stream is reset, the decoder emits a Stream Cancellation instruction. The

...or reading is abandoned (i.e. STOP_SENDING)

In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -1035,17 +1038,19 @@ values that are not to be put at risk by compressing them (see Section 7.1 of
 ~~~~~~~~~~
 {: title="Literal Header Field With Name Reference"}
 
-For entries in the static table or in the dynamic table with an absolute index
-less than the Base, the header field name is represented using the relative
-index of that entry, which is represented as an integer with a 4-bit prefix (see
-Section 5.1 of [RFC7541]). The `S` bit indicates whether the reference is to the
-static (S=1) or dynamic (S=0) table.
+The fourth (`S`) bit indicates whether the reference is to the static (S=1) or
+dynamic (S=0) table.  Finally, the header field name is represented using the
+static or relative index of that entry, which is represented as an integer with

We define relative, absolute, and post-base indices. We talk about "static table index" and "index into the static table". "Static table index" is used on line 656 of the current doc. This use of "static index" is a new variation. I suspect a reader could reasonably infer that they all mean the same thing -- obviously we all have -- but it might be nice to align the terminology and make sure it's defined somewhere.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -344,7 +337,7 @@ MUST treat this as a connection error of type HTTP_QPACK_DECOMPRESSION_FAILED.
 
 ### State Synchronization
 
-The decoder signals key events by emitting decoder instructions
+The decoder signals the following key events by emitting decoder instructions

You can probably just replace "key" instead of adding.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4984,6 +4999,12 @@ Sequence Number:
 : The sequence number assigned to the connection ID by the sender.  See
   {{issue-cid}}.
 
+Retire Prior To:
+
+: A variable-length integer specifying the limit for which all connection IDs
+  assigned to the receiver that have a sequence number less than this value
+  should be retired.  See {{retiring-cids}}.

Given that the specifics of the limit are explained elsewhere, keep the field description brief. "A variable-length integer indicating which connection IDs should be retired."

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(#2823) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d0bf6565d1cc_21153fc50facd96098269"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nharper X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2019 21:10:50 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d0bf6565d1cc_21153fc50facd96098269 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-tls.html#rfc.section.5.2 s= tates that "Initial packets are protected with a secret derived from the = Destination Connection ID field from the client=E2=80=99s first Initial p= acket of the connection." This sounds like a second Initial packet from t= he client (in response to a server's Retry) would still be encrypted usin= g keys derived from the original DCID instead of a potentially new DCID. = However, that section later mentions the client creating an Initial packe= t in response to a Retry packet and the DCID is selected by the server.=0D= =0D These two statements should be reconciled to clarify that either the init= ial keys stay the same for the entire connection, or that initial keys ca= n change. (From the discussion in #2180, it sounds like an Initial sent i= n response to a Retry is still the same connection.)=0D =0D I think there are 3 options for behavior:=0D 1. The initial keys stay the same for the entire connection=0D 2. The initial keys for encrypting/decrypting a packet are derived from t= he server's CID listed in that packet=0D 3. The initial keys are derived from the client's first DCID, unless the = server sends a Retry packet, after which the initial keys are re-derived = from the server's new DCID.=0D =0D These options are in my preference order.=0D =0D My understanding for why initial keys change after a Retry is to support = servers handling Retry statelessly. A server should still be able to use = the original DCID for initial key derivation in this case because the ODC= ID is needed for transport parameters, and the retry token is sent in the= clear in the Initial packet, so the server can recover it from the token= .=0D =0D Option 2 lets the keys change, but follows a simpler principle for what t= he keys are. When processing a packet for a connection, the information t= o encrypt or decrypt it is all self-contained - there is no additional co= nnection state to check whether a new encrypter or decrypter is needed be= cause an Initial packet was sent/received after a Retry packet.=0D =0D One of the reasons why option 3 seems odd to me is that there are multipl= e ways the server's CID can change between Initial packets on the same co= nnection, but Retry packets are the only case where we change the initial= keys. (E.g. consider from a client's perspective sending a second Client= Hello in response to a Retry packet has the initial keys change, but send= ing it in response to a HelloRetryRequest keeps the keys the same, even t= hough the server likely changed its CID in the Initial packet where it se= nt the HRR.)=0D =0D -- =0D You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.=0D Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub:=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2823= ----==_mimepart_5d0bf6565d1cc_21153fc50facd96098269 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-= quic-tls.html#rfc.section.5.2 states that "Initial packets are protec= ted with a secret derived from the Destination Connection ID field from t= he client=E2=80=99s first Initial packet of the connection." This sounds = like a second Initial packet from the client (in response to a server's R= etry) would still be encrypted using keys derived from the original DCID = instead of a potentially new DCID. However, that section later mentions t= he client creating an Initial packet in response to a Retry packet and th= e DCID is selected by the server.

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These two statements should be reconciled to clarify that either the i= nitial keys stay the same for the entire connection, or that initial keys= can change. (From the discussion in #2180, it sounds like an = Initial sent in response to a Retry is still the same connection.)

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I think there are 3 options for behavior:

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  1. The initial keys stay the same for the entire connection
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  2. The initial keys for encrypting/decrypting a packet are derived from = the server's CID listed in that packet
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  3. The initial keys are derived from the client's first DCID, unless the= server sends a Retry packet, after which the initial keys are re-derived= from the server's new DCID.
    4. =0D
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These options are in my preference order.

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My understanding for why initial keys change after a Retry is to suppo= rt servers handling Retry statelessly. A server should still be able to u= se the original DCID for initial key derivation in this case because the = ODCID is needed for transport parameters, and the retry token is sent in = the clear in the Initial packet, so the server can recover it from the to= ken.

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Option 2 lets the keys change, but follows a simpler principle for wha= t the keys are. When processing a packet for a connection, the informatio= n to encrypt or decrypt it is all self-contained - there is no additional= connection state to check whether a new encrypter or decrypter is needed= because an Initial packet was sent/received after a Retry packet.

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One of the reasons why option 3 seems odd to me is that there are mult= iple ways the server's CID can change between Initial packets on the same= connection, but Retry packets are the only case where we change the init= ial keys. (E.g. consider from a client's perspective sending a second Cli= entHello in response to a Retry packet has the initial keys change, but s= ending it in response to a HelloRetryRequest keeps the keys the same, eve= n though the server likely changed its CID in the Initial packet where it= sent the HRR.)

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To me it seems that having an error code for specific part of push (i.e. ID of push-related information being incorrect) a bit too detailed. I think it sticks out, because we do not have things like PLACEHOLDER_ID_ERROR, STREAM_ID_ERROR.

Also, using PUSH_ID_ERROR in some cases while using MALFORMED_FRAME in others seems confusing.

I think we might want to consider doing either of the two:

  • Use PUSH_ID_ERROR (or a generic error code for push) for all the push-related errors. This makes sense if we consider push as an optional feature of HTTP/3
  • Introduce ID_ERROR that captures all the limit and ID errors.

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I recently read Cloudflare's blog post on QUIC, and one of the i= ssues that they stated that QUIC needs to solve before becoming viable is= the issue of NATs blocking UDP packets as the normal TCP connection base= d system won't work. As I read this, a possible solution jumped out at me= : ipv6. With ipv6, there almost never NAT, so this issue is eliminated. I= f QUIC were to become an ipv6-only protocol, designed to be deployed alon= g-side traditional HTTP for legacy clients, then it could encourage ipv6 = deployment. There is precedent for something like this, where a new proto= col is only available if some other improvements go with it. When HTTP/2.= 0 came out (and SPDY before it), most client implementations set it up to= only work with TLS-enabled connections. In this way, any website that wa= nts to take advantage of the performance benefits of HTTP/2.0 must also s= etup TLS, making the Internet a better place. ipv6 support will have to h= appen eventually, and right now it is mostly held back because many netwo= rks refuse to support it as there is little advantage (read: profit) to d= oing so right now. QUIC being an ipv6-only protocol would create an advan= tage to ipv6 deployment, especially for mobile websites as at least one m= ajor mobile network already supports ipv6 (T Mobile)=C2=B9. This would al= low the world to move past ipv4 more quickly, by making ipv6 a more viabl= e protocol by itself.

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1: This point is especially important because generally mobile devices= have carrier-grade NAT, if any, thus making a mobile network's deploymen= t of ipv6 particularly beneficial. Furthermore, the main areas where QUIC= shines (packet loss and high latency) are particularly common on mobile = networks compared to wifi or wired networks.

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=0D = ----==_mimepart_5d0c8f1f3e871_1b383fbff54cd96c3105f4-- From nobody Fri Jun 21 02:37:24 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFFF412027A for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2019 02:37:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Knj3llehAg-x for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2019 02:37:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8441D1202B3 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2019 02:37:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2019 02:37:07 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561109827; bh=pJPH+C1UIJ0d2AekGI+MHvLBnaFDP6VPLEUoEWFykqU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Ph0RizckX9vDSXgPD+S8q4k39JbDehHfd6DH6pHSHF9sacmyxT0nOAu+r94QJyjMF 9xAInxBf5u9TluhSKzMnbcBQuVQEtxKNZoIiet7eSBxZdbSlDfVp5dUTHMuB3MF4ek zOEIu6unZledWPRiCVhnrIkWbsFpfgZ903vOF8DQ= From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Invalid Push ID error codes (#2818) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d0ca543bf6af_30703f9ac5ccd96428449d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2019 09:37:22 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d0ca543bf6af_30703f9ac5ccd96428449d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks @kazuho. The proposal is a bit of a compromise, so I agree with some of the points that you make. I like your idea of replacing HTTP_LIMIT_EXCEEDED with HTTP_ID_ERROR. I think it solves the issue in the most general way and doesn't change the protocol mechanics. What follows is the response I made first, before coming to that agreement :) > To me it seems that having an error code for specific part of push (i.e. ID of push-related information being incorrect) a bit too detailed. I think it sticks out, because we do not have things like PLACEHOLDER_ID_ERROR, STREAM_ID_ERROR. Right. The difference here is that H3 frames only reference the stream and placeholder ID spaces, they don't control them. So, if the peer references an ID that doesn't exist then respond with HTTP_LIMIT_EXCEEDED. Multiple references to the same ID is a little different, its ok to reuse placeholder ID (as long as the above condition holds, and you create a semantically valid PRIORITY frame). The transport spec discusses reuse of stream IDs at that layer; in H3 we only use stream ID for PRIORITY and GOAWAY - this has similar restrictions. However, server push is a little different because it's ID space is managed by the MAX_PUSH_ID frame. The three errors that use HTTP_PUSH_ID_ERROR are unique to push. However, if we modified HTTP_LIMIT_EXCEEDED to cover exceeding limits and incorrect ID usage (call it HTTP_ID_ERROR) I think that would work. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2818#issuecomment-504362218 ----==_mimepart_5d0ca543bf6af_30703f9ac5ccd96428449d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Thanks @kazuho. The proposal is a bit of a compromise, so I agree with some of the points that you make.

I like your idea of replacing HTTP_LIMIT_EXCEEDED with HTTP_ID_ERROR. I think it solves the issue in the most general way and doesn't change the protocol mechanics.

What follows is the response I made first, before coming to that agreement :)

To me it seems that having an error code for specific part of push (i.e. ID of push-related information being incorrect) a bit too detailed. I think it sticks out, because we do not have things like PLACEHOLDER_ID_ERROR, STREAM_ID_ERROR.

Right. The difference here is that H3 frames only reference the stream and placeholder ID spaces, they don't control them. So, if the peer references an ID that doesn't exist then respond with HTTP_LIMIT_EXCEEDED.

Multiple references to the same ID is a little different, its ok to reuse placeholder ID (as long as the above condition holds, and you create a semantically valid PRIORITY frame). The transport spec discusses reuse of stream IDs at that layer; in H3 we only use stream ID for PRIORITY and GOAWAY - this has similar restrictions.

However, server push is a little different because it's ID space is managed by the MAX_PUSH_ID frame. The three errors that use HTTP_PUSH_ID_ERROR are unique to push. However, if we modified HTTP_LIMIT_EXCEEDED to cover exceeding limits and incorrect ID usage (call it HTTP_ID_ERROR) I think that would work.

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Updated to replace HTTP_LIMIT_EXCEEDED and HTTP_PUSH_ID_ERROR with the single error HTTP_ID_ERROR.

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----==_mimepart_5d0ca8855896e_1b2f3faecfccd9641111c8-- From nobody Fri Jun 21 02:52:57 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED0C71201E3 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2019 02:52:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.391 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.391 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ky99Ud6L7AYW for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2019 02:52:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-18.smtp.github.com (out-18.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0ABFE1201DE for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2019 02:52:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2019 02:52:52 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561110772; bh=EjGqGJHbQ3JZQQS/4iG05vL8T8i6QqovBCnJ+KBtkzI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=tjcwBOF5dJD6F+5r8XMtOp7IybawJdnRSO0LqdJMzhqOg+ke2nOcZo61Jl/46hW81 1VsVA4zoX9aXOujdo3+2jt96Dw0DMQQFth3RzNsqez9jv19xq4ovukoimeahne9u4N 2OIDDsxfR8PeTThOCPRG3uhgHn/iOWxhyou/rw4k= From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Invalid Push ID error codes (#2818) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d0ca8f45f091_7e953f94b38cd96c112864"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2019 09:52:56 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d0ca8f45f091_7e953f94b38cd96c112864 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I updated the PR #2820 with the above, so that we can see what it looks like. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2818#issuecomment-504366978 ----==_mimepart_5d0ca8f45f091_7e953f94b38cd96c112864 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I updated the PR #2820 with the above, so that we can see what it looks like.

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----==_mimepart_5d0ca8f45f091_7e953f94b38cd96c112864-- From nobody Fri Jun 21 07:16:30 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB12C1202A1 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2019 07:16:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.877 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.877 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.415, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eGk5PtkSPc_V for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2019 07:16:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2105A120273 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2019 07:15:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2019 07:15:49 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561126549; bh=8EQ5pMz3JzaU47obGFILDyNcwpJltdrL/8485vX9eus=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=jbooYh5oo6xDK/hjzy9LM/Yvq8XgmEPvi3GRQPUVzmxY6QyQJOkgUMos6sswvdT0/ kZZkhJ0zATRvHRhFvi5Ri9d9EuuPxu18GiTZB6eywMJnPz+GZy5BGPWLYX7+RnOud/ abmvm9WRJIYhKK8FJnwAyOqwMULl/HcltPRYGV20= From: Ryan Hamilton Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Proposal for Handling Issues with NAT due to QUIC being a UDP protocol (#2824) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d0ce69527a67_687c3fc38f0cd964880d1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: RyanAtGoogle X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2019 14:16:29 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d0ce69527a67_687c3fc38f0cd964880d1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit According to this post: https://blog.apnic.net/2018/05/15/how-much-of-the-internet-is-using-quic/ QUIC accounts for up to 7.8% of the total traffic volume on the internet. I'd say it's already viable. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2824#issuecomment-504441947 ----==_mimepart_5d0ce69527a67_687c3fc38f0cd964880d1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

According to this post:

https://blog.apnic.net/2018/05/15/how-much-of-the-internet-is-using-quic/

QUIC accounts for up to 7.8% of the total traffic volume on the internet. I'd say it's already viable.

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In Athens those 7.8% would have to be consumed by nearly every IPV6 endpoint:
https://www.gr-ix.gr/ipv4-ipv6-ratio/

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I find this proposal impractical. However, I could imagine a new QUIC version that would fully rely on IPv6 and perhaps simplify various other aspects. If such a version were to arrive soon, then indeed it might help push IPv6 as well as simplify the protocol.

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----==_mimepart_5d0ce89128fd8_48103fd28c6cd95c155215-- From nobody Fri Jun 21 07:27:41 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 656FA120275 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2019 07:27:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hzGEUd-rJN74 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2019 07:27:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 105FE120276 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2019 07:27:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2019 07:27:37 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561127257; bh=kYbxiHg1Pe0hriSI7PiOS2j3I+z6Vw/VvuBpOMQaJWw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=I2PHJonkTPFz+/jwVE99MjdpUM5CPzvVAU9yMlZaSeNgYrs0rtcj1gsXPyLvGtal0 ciuMZK058Llq13Vqd6cJtEn30GVBAgoClPZgVsZfMP+eXf9vnIqyosHWcmOJ+D7f/h dze7PZrZoK73XX+mVR8p6T7hD1zPYPYUY2SJfxD4= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Proposal for Handling Issues with NAT due to QUIC being a UDP protocol (#2824) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d0ce959d8d9c_59413f9be52cd95c66044"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2019 14:27:40 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d0ce959d8d9c_59413f9be52cd95c66044 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fun fact: According to above link, Denmark has 3.31% IPv6 adoption, and Germany just a few degrees south, slightly south, has a whopping 42.16% adoption rate. I guess someone didn't distribute IP blocks according to population count? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2824#issuecomment-504445918 ----==_mimepart_5d0ce959d8d9c_59413f9be52cd95c66044 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Fun fact: According to above link, Denmark has 3.31% IPv6 adoption, and Germany just a few degrees south, slightly south, has a whopping 42.16% adoption rate. I guess someone didn't distribute IP blocks according to population count?

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I'd like to accelerate IPv6 deployment and I can imagine a future version of QUIC being v6 only, but I can't think of any critical technical benefit to making QUIC v6-only, so this seems well out of scope for QUIC v1.

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I'm not totally sold on this, but I'm having trouble articulating what it is that doesn't flow for me. I suspect that means I don't actually disagree, I just need some time to wrap my head around it.

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@martinthomson requested changes on this pull request.

This text still serves a purpose because the server does pick ALPN.

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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -187,8 +187,9 @@ QUIC:
 
 QUIC packet:
 
-: The smallest unit of QUIC that can be encapsulated in a UDP datagram. Multiple
-  QUIC packets can be encapsulated in a single UDP datagram.
+: A complete processable payload with a packet type, encryption level and

Thanks Mike, I updated it to header, payload, and authentication tag.

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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

Thanks Mike, I addressed or accepted most of your comments.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -244,8 +245,9 @@ x (*) ...:
 # Streams {#streams}
 
 Streams in QUIC provide a lightweight, ordered byte-stream abstraction to an

I'm not sure I want to make that change and I'm not changing that sentence at the moment, so if you would like to change it, I'd suggest a separate PR.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -335,8 +337,9 @@ the flow control limits set by its peer.  Flow control is described in detail in
 Stream multiplexing can have a significant effect on application performance if
 resources allocated to streams are correctly prioritized.
 
-QUIC does not provide frames for exchanging prioritization information.  Instead
-it relies on receiving priority information from the application that uses QUIC.
+QUIC does not provide a mechanism for exchanging prioritization information.
+Instead it relies on receiving priority information from the application that
+uses QUIC.

I added this, then removed it because it read somewhat redundantly.

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Endpoints MUST NOT exceed the limit set by their peer. An endpoint that -receives a STREAM frame with a stream ID exceeding the limit it has sent MUST +receives a frame with a stream ID exceeding the limit it has sent MUST Perhaps, but wouldn't this then be a design change? This is an editorial PR. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2730#discussion_r296342344 ----==_mimepart_5d0d1e79eba63_1a773ff1422cd968170053 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -861,13 +855,12 @@ If either is received, the connection MUST be closed immediately with a
 connection error of type STREAM_LIMIT_ERROR (see {{immediate-close}}).
 
 Endpoints MUST NOT exceed the limit set by their peer.  An endpoint that
-receives a STREAM frame with a stream ID exceeding the limit it has sent MUST
+receives a frame with a stream ID exceeding the limit it has sent MUST

Perhaps, but wouldn't this then be a design change? This is an editorial PR.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -861,13 +855,12 @@ If either is received, the connection MUST be closed immediately with a
 connection error of type STREAM_LIMIT_ERROR (see {{immediate-close}}).
 
 Endpoints MUST NOT exceed the limit set by their peer.  An endpoint that
-receives a STREAM frame with a stream ID exceeding the limit it has sent MUST
+receives a frame with a stream ID exceeding the limit it has sent MUST

Fair point, I'll revert that and if we think it's worth changing, I'll open a design issue for it.

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In section 4.5 of transport(https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-transport-20#section-4.5) it says: "Endpoints MUST NOT exceed the limit set by their peer. An endpoint that receives a STREAM frame with a stream ID exceeding the limit it has sent MUST treat this as a stream error of type STREAM_LIMIT_ERROR" Came up in discussion of #2730 -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2825 ----==_mimepart_5d0d225e641f3_f2a3fd7340cd9602285a8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

In most places in QUIC, if an error is clearly avoidable(ie: only a buggy implementation would do so), then we advise closing the connection with an error, not just closing the stream with an error.

In section 4.5 of transport(https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-transport-20#section-4.5) it says:
"Endpoints MUST NOT exceed the limit set by their peer. An endpoint
that receives a STREAM frame with a stream ID exceeding the limit it
has sent MUST treat this as a stream error of type STREAM_LIMIT_ERROR"

Came up in discussion of #2730

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Fixes #2825

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1 and 2 are the clearest contracts and I slightly prefer 1 as well. 3 is odd and very unintuitive to me.

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----==_mimepart_5d0d32539f8e6_656f3fbd970cd96c30737a-- From nobody Fri Jun 21 13:30:25 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 253521203C3 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2019 13:30:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.878 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.878 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.415, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OPzj3GAW1i9h for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2019 13:30:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4AE981203AE for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2019 13:30:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2019 13:30:21 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561149021; bh=3zPtdYgzN7rIJIT6Lz/mWOfbwoC7ZYN5wTWiYHizy2c=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=kxoFhTcV0H6DJJvvIAdYrWaNbhabqKD/qY78O3uuAV3HtGDhQ+J1QxUYjmLSmnEXF n/gRFTOtKXFa+6XsUx05OhQt0vuBZK3QaBVHoolLe1KC62ppCFPl/oEZ5xaVzgX2ki Wu/EfFaIFwo7eYCKvkFB/VI7JbWhqq7KUi2a0bWE= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Exceeding Max STREAM ID should be a connection error (#2825) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d0d3e5d67a6a_726d3fae616cd96014772c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2019 20:30:24 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d0d3e5d67a6a_726d3fae616cd96014772c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As I commented in the updated PR description, section 19.11 already says this: "An endpoint MUST terminate a connection with a STREAM_LIMIT_ERROR error if a peer opens more streams than was permitted." -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2825#issuecomment-504563117 ----==_mimepart_5d0d3e5d67a6a_726d3fae616cd96014772c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

As I commented in the updated PR description, section 19.11 already says this:
"An endpoint MUST terminate a connection
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The spec says

A server rejects 0-RTT by rejecting 0-RTT at the TLS layer. This also prevents QUIC from sending 0-RTT data. A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a TLS HelloRetryRequest.

RFC 8446 says about rejecting 0-RTT:

  • Ignore the extension and return a regular 1-RTT response. The server then skips past early data by attempting to deprotect received records using the handshake traffic key, discarding records which fail deprotection (up to the configured max_early_data_size). Once a record is deprotected successfully, it is treated as the start of the client's second flight and the server proceeds as with an ordinary 1-RTT handshake.

  • Request that the client send another ClientHello by responding with a HelloRetryRequest. A client MUST NOT include the "early_data" extension in its followup ClientHello. The server then ignores early data by skipping all records with an external content type of "application_data" (indicating that they are encrypted), up to the configured max_early_data_size.

This doesn't really apply to QUIC, since we don't need a connection that requires us to read the bytes in order. The QUIC equivalent would be to drop all packets of packet type 0-RTT.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  endpoints retaining a stable address for the duration of the handshake.
+An endpoint MUST NOT initiate connection migration before the handshake is
+finished for it and its peer and the endpoint has 1-RTT keys. This means
+that the server MUST NOT initiate connection migration before it has
+received at least one 1-RTT data from the client, and the client 
+MUST NOT initiate connection migration before receiving 
+acknowledgement by the server of at least one of its
+1-RTT messages.

Solved in rewrite with dependency on "handshake confirmed".

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The phrase, Before creating a stream, all streams of the same type with lower-numbered stream IDs MUST be created., is semantically equal to Before all streams (of the same type with lower-numbered stream IDs) create a stream, all streams of the same type with lower-numbered stream IDs MUST be created.

This is not correct since all streams don't create a (new) stream. Moreover, by definition, a stream is created by sending data[1] or STREAM frames implicitly create a stream[2]. This indicates a stream itself doesn't create another stream.

[1] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-transport-20#section-2
[2] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-transport-20#section-19.8

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  • Fix grammar in 3.2. Receiving Stream States

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -526,7 +526,7 @@ an unopened stream indicates that the remote peer no longer wishes to receive
 data on this stream.  Either frame might arrive before a STREAM or
 STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED frame if packets are lost or reordered.
 
-Before creating a stream, all streams of the same type with lower-numbered
+Before a new stream is created, all streams of the same type with lower-numbered

Maybe we don't have to clearly say "new".

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----==_mimepart_5d0f27b38b653_264f3fe9a2ecd96832364-- From nobody Sun Jun 23 00:23:37 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4559212012D for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 00:23:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.604 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.604 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8rb94R0VBwly for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 00:23:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-21.smtp.github.com (out-21.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.204]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7CE651200B1 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 00:23:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2019 00:23:32 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561274612; bh=bUc9SXtt2iNkFlr93pLohDqn/M7tIRlZH/6j/Gbi854=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=lpJZ32SXHsMl3DmusJY0B9hcwJaH0eIPtvKkNoc3i8nzdP63qk/ta34x9RhmKaYYM ciaS32+HPdPsXEGbSOoNAfei+CMQOzUS40RHJ4804+VQREMS4X2qXzaOax2icSptu+ H4o1k4eYTTMcX0Zwp2OP/rtt2aHxpeJnPYxLdtLg= From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] clarify why the client MUST NOT reset the packet number after a Retry (#2831) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d0f28f459061_34a23fe5e32cd96436534"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2019 07:23:35 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d0f28f459061_34a23fe5e32cd96436534 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As of #2746, the client MUST use the same handshake message. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2831 -- Commit Summary -- * clarify why the client MUST NOT reset the packet number after a Retry -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (11) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2831.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2831.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2831 ----==_mimepart_5d0f28f459061_34a23fe5e32cd96436534 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

As of #2746, the client MUST use the same handshake message.

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Retry always changes the connection ID.

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Clients aren't forbidden from sending a Handshake packet before receiving the ServerHello, they just don't have the keys to do so.

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@martinthomson That depends on how you read RFC 7301, doesn't it?

Section 3.1 says:

Servers that receive a ClientHello containing the "application_layer_protocol_negotiation" extension MAY return a suitable protocol selection response to the client.

I interpret "suitable" as "one of the options that the client proposed", but unfortunately that RFC is not very specific.

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@nibanks approved this pull request.

Looks good. Just a minor comment.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -526,7 +526,7 @@ an unopened stream indicates that the remote peer no longer wishes to receive
 data on this stream.  Either frame might arrive before a STREAM or
 STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED frame if packets are lost or reordered.
 
-Before creating a stream, all streams of the same type with lower-numbered
+Before a new stream is created, all streams of the same type with lower-numbered

Yeah, I don't think we need "new" in the sentence.

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----==_mimepart_5d0f9986ea3f9_356b3f80db8cd96c5914f1-- From nobody Sun Jun 23 08:24:27 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3C961201DD for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 08:24:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.878 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.878 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.415, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xXhmxkJuiiOF for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 08:24:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 13E591201DB for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 08:24:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2019 08:24:22 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561303463; bh=BjcPtI8d0mejYwgnL+u2vJSCe+hKaj7hreVgwuxSg6E=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=sWk2Lis2yjQBzLgz00VP6dRRp/86/rtkTLS71SL09ODn/3MoAqr74AradzTxdYWS3 cFFM1jRke9Ux1cSPjYLVNdTiybcMojCn+u+7INMwvTEpUyfAlQhS9DvNC8jPrwnPfW BhOX3QjmIhXv/yI/lhBFZ1323qUAWVC4Ve1NAYJg= From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] remove misleading sentence about connection IDs after Retry (#2832) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d0f99a6e6a36_3ca43ff3eb4cd960488513"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2019 15:24:26 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d0f99a6e6a36_3ca43ff3eb4cd960488513 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nibanks commented on this pull request. I think we still need the sentence that says receiving a Retry packet likely indicates all 0-RTT packets were lost. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2832#pullrequestreview-253137660 ----==_mimepart_5d0f99a6e6a36_3ca43ff3eb4cd960488513 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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I think we still need the sentence that says receiving a Retry packet likely indicates all 0-RTT packets were lost.

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----==_mimepart_5d0f99a6e6a36_3ca43ff3eb4cd960488513-- From nobody Sun Jun 23 08:28:17 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64C83120199 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 08:28:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Vji6wKqFUnrZ for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 08:28:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D55F1200C5 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 08:28:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2019 08:28:13 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561303694; bh=FSCS9UobgDs3UrydFOW1USdKClky4JiCqiTChwtI7jU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=S6MiiL9InTpodV8BieuDjhiIsBbSepBVH/uMVrjZ3TBfuBfou1o71RyIrhDVxAewx G8eIqF7pvLu+CCv/LlhcZjtDllbGiMy9yAuko+x/8MvhGvGaXX5FJwPkDXsyeMrBFr 1r0tVrBcDk/hiAyc0z30TB6GaUssd/HhG8Uzm7Nk= From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Do Initial secrets change after Retry packet? (#2823) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d0f9a8dedba9_62d73f843f6cd95c87395c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2019 15:28:16 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d0f9a8dedba9_62d73f843f6cd95c87395c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think 1 is probably the best. I believe it would remove the need to include the original CID in the transport parameters as well, in the Retry scenario. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2823#issuecomment-504762056 ----==_mimepart_5d0f9a8dedba9_62d73f843f6cd95c87395c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I think 1 is probably the best. I believe it would remove the need to include the original CID in the transport parameters as well, in the Retry scenario.

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----==_mimepart_5d0f9a8dedba9_62d73f843f6cd95c87395c-- From nobody Sun Jun 23 08:42:36 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DB2A120122 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 08:42:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.423 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.423 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.415, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UBFZU6QtROSE for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 08:42:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7C5FC1200C5 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 08:42:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2019 08:42:31 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561304551; bh=hwMOq/JMEJ/Z0/wZ9Rey7BKIQpF+uDp2+eQHbFWh82s=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=jsyyTeBm63aIfra+AwjumZlOgllTf3eusUGTMRkXiF5EM8oZWOI85wWqUdc0NgL8V Fv3guS81f5LF9BFlYonQYbaNR9iu5ypdRmJZeRbD4otE+H4QdfVnvGywxmI2RJLTMG 9F9vI1vnzkL2Xqu9WZ8REZzI9Ch47WQqgWgPFFiA= From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Long Header Packets and Routing Connection IDs (#2834) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d0f9de754741_275c3ffc7f6cd96c62456b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2019 15:42:35 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d0f9de754741_275c3ffc7f6cd96c62456b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I discussed this on Slack and opened a related issue on the [QUIC-LB doc](https://github.com/martinduke/draft-duke-quic-load-balancers/issues/43), but I think the real issue needs to be discussed here. The issue here is how a server (it's LB specifically) is supposed to statelessly route Long Header packets. Right now, the client immediately changes the destination CID it puts in its packets to the server chosen CID. This results in all Initial and Handshake packets it sends after the first (successful) flight of packets are received and acknowleded/responded to by the server. So, practically, that means Long Header packets could have one of two types of CIDs: client chosen or server chosen. To prevent attack vectors from being exposed, the LB practically needs to use different routing logic for each type of CID. We don't want an attacker to explicitly control which backend server it creates a new connection to. The problem arrises because we have no way to differentiate which type of CID is included in the Long Header packets processed by the LB. **Proposal**: All Long Header packets use the client chosen CID, to allow for consistent routing of these packets. Now, if we agree that the CID doesn't change until Short Header packets are used, then that means we don't have to use the current implicit mechanism for changing the CID in response to the first server packet received. We can instead exchange it, encrypted with the Handshake keys; possibly a new transport parameter; or just the first NEW_CONNECTION_ID. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2834 ----==_mimepart_5d0f9de754741_275c3ffc7f6cd96c62456b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I discussed this on Slack and opened a related issue on the QUIC-LB doc, but I think the real issue needs to be discussed here. The issue here is how a server (it's LB specifically) is supposed to statelessly route Long Header packets. Right now, the client immediately changes the destination CID it puts in its packets to the server chosen CID. This results in all Initial and Handshake packets it sends after the first (successful) flight of packets are received and acknowleded/responded to by the server.

So, practically, that means Long Header packets could have one of two types of CIDs: client chosen or server chosen. To prevent attack vectors from being exposed, the LB practically needs to use different routing logic for each type of CID. We don't want an attacker to explicitly control which backend server it creates a new connection to. The problem arrises because we have no way to differentiate which type of CID is included in the Long Header packets processed by the LB.

Proposal: All Long Header packets use the client chosen CID, to allow for consistent routing of these packets.

Now, if we agree that the CID doesn't change until Short Header packets are used, then that means we don't have to use the current implicit mechanism for changing the CID in response to the first server packet received. We can instead exchange it, encrypted with the Handshake keys; possibly a new transport parameter; or just the first NEW_CONNECTION_ID.

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@nibanks The paragraph 2 before this one says exactly that.

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@nibanks approved this pull request.

Ah... I missed that. Thanks for pointing it out @ianswett.

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----==_mimepart_5d0fa506c09a5_59143ff8cd4cd960329057-- From nobody Sun Jun 23 09:17:42 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3801512004E for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 09:17:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.806 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.806 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.415, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1WbimKHvpIJw for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 09:17:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ACA09120018 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 09:17:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2019 09:17:37 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561306657; bh=LZFJO3Oe5RTxAXk8xhGnjdyY+9h+fW9uUkig3cSbfPU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=oJ0kp9tR2fKf/LPtjmqk8TWeJB80/9dwyv9oBsmkTSrdnNJm6EqZFwEARUek4o98o O0kVzBeUVtIADOvUdSPtjoevQM9qi8pL+ovKqFrh0mIZwoMDdaPeWcOlkd8qjnxXsd F0qpdhch3wNxVJygzJeK3iO42b2hujhKMTEjhR9c= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Long Header Packets and Routing Connection IDs (#2834) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d0fa62178a75_63d3fa1d0ccd95c6087b0"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2019 16:17:40 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d0fa62178a75_63d3fa1d0ccd95c6087b0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > All Long Header packets use the client chosen CID, to allow for consistent routing of these packets. That would prevent a load balancer from balancing load to a specific server that handles the handshake. It would also allow a client to decide where state is managed during a handshake, to a degree, which opens to an attack. But I do agree that it should be possible to distinguish the original CID from other CID's. Isn't it already via the header type? Or is the problem that you don't want dual logic? You don't need to maintain state for OCID, so that is a fast test and no crypto. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2834#issuecomment-504766188 ----==_mimepart_5d0fa62178a75_63d3fa1d0ccd95c6087b0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

All Long Header packets use the client chosen CID, to allow for consistent routing of these packets.

That would prevent a load balancer from balancing load to a specific server that handles the handshake. It would also allow a client to decide where state is managed during a handshake, to a degree, which opens to an attack.

But I do agree that it should be possible to distinguish the original CID from other CID's. Isn't it already via the header type?

Or is the problem that you don't want dual logic? You don't need to maintain state for OCID, so that is a fast test and no crypto.

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@mikkelfj currently, when processing a LH Initial packet, from just the packet header, the LB cannot determine how to route the packet, if it has two different sets of logic: one for client chosen CIDs and one for server chosen CIDs.

Instead of waiting until short header packets to change the CID, you could wait until Handshake packets, but I don't see how this makes things better. I don't understand your statement:

It would also allow a client to decide where state is managed during a handshake, to a degree, which opens to an attack.

The whole point here is that you want to route all long header packets to the same place. Why would you route the initial packets one place, and then handshake packets somewhere else? If you didn't like where they went in the first place, don't route them there.

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The whole point here is that you want to route all long header packets to the same place. Why would you route the initial packets one place, and then handshake packets somewhere else? If you didn't like where they went in the first place, don't route them there.

The initially discovering LB can choose a random or least loaded endpoint to send the initial packet to. This endpoint decides a new CID it sends to the client. When client responds, the original LB sees a new CID in a LH, it knows that it is not a random OCID because it is no longer an initial packet. Therefore it routes the CID to the correct server assuming the LB understands the CID that the server generated.

If the client retransmits initial, it might land on another server, but that should work fine.

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If the client retransmits initial, it might land on another server, but that should work fine.

The client can send several things in initial packets:

  1. ACKs of the server initial packets.
  2. TLS renegotiation packets. For instance, HRR response.

Bottom line, the client continues to use Initial packets beyond the first one it sends. But with the current CID design, those packets use a new CID.

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----==_mimepart_5d0fbec23ec85_4de53fa1d0ccd95c640276-- From nobody Sun Jun 23 11:08:56 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8639C120086 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 11:08:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lsikx_LWIJ2R for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 11:08:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EA9DA120177 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 11:08:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2019 11:08:52 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561313332; bh=XpKJ2rlovSCJgaIFw5gLYXh3DIPVYZwMRGZrHVu74DE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=IfB+UQN6AHMtTzVwEBa2Cxh/WlWgju08WUy9yrXv2p3jt0XPPJqhyV5BTtmRuzFs9 LknF+q84HBTPoTcPV0jV8sG7diFHWhHqKqWOyPB6l7a/VlsRj1u+JHEaijQnsMx/vx lwFcmq14eUJ3AKTjOP0ecd9DjJJcblQJYKnyrl68= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Long Header Packets and Routing Connection IDs (#2834) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d0fc034b8ea6_9083f863e0cd95c54075"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2019 18:08:55 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d0fc034b8ea6_9083f863e0cd95c54075 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, if that is possible, I agree that should be fixed. But I think that it is those packets that should not use an initial packet then. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2834#issuecomment-504774346 ----==_mimepart_5d0fc034b8ea6_9083f863e0cd95c54075 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Well, if that is possible, I agree that should be fixed. But I think that it is those packets that should not use an initial packet then.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -526,7 +526,7 @@ an unopened stream indicates that the remote peer no longer wishes to receive
 data on this stream.  Either frame might arrive before a STREAM or
 STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED frame if packets are lost or reordered.
 
-Before creating a stream, all streams of the same type with lower-numbered
+Before a new stream is created, all streams of the same type with lower-numbered

Thanks! Fixed it.

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[ci skip] From nobody Sun Jun 23 17:59:38 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9400C12004A for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 17:59:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.1 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9aEGn1Oyt6Gr for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 17:59:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4356A120047 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 17:59:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2019 17:59:30 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561337970; bh=hBPPzOq61fQegs5p1Lt7GDSjrj3nNk7BKjgh1mtU3kc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=R/8vBYpLiotSvTJIrI3oDYx+lhRgH08E1kDNEEvG8qIa9wL+gPRuUQk25fvueX9ZW poCEIeJRzv1rUCjFba/kTiO5UKPFg/+93J2TXo4TfZE+3Oi7UMjQKll9RYZrj0a4+w m24JKMTZY+Y3bvHNfnQsEXk0yCpu4nXbvMNLMiHE= From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Long Header Packets and Routing Connection IDs (#2834) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d102072446d0_583d3f9447ecd964452623"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 00:59:36 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d102072446d0_583d3f9447ecd964452623 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > So, practically, that means Long Header packets could have one of two types of CIDs: client chosen or server chosen. The LB could append an auth tag to CIDs that it generates, which would allow it to distinguish between its own and client generated CIDs. > To prevent attack vectors from being exposed, the LB practically needs to use different routing logic for each type of CID. I'd like to make sure that I understand the attack vector that you're concerned about. An attacker could reuse CIDs which it obtained on an old connection to reconnect to exactly the same backend server, and flood it with (computationally expensive) handshakes. Is that the scenario you had in mind, @nibanks? Mitigating this attack would could be done by sending Retries, or by effectively blocking a certain CID from reestablishing a new connection for a certain time. Requiring all Long Header packets to use the same (client chosen) CID, as you propose, would indeed make it easier to mitigate this attack: A LB would then require Long Header packets to use a client chosen CID (i.e. without an auth tag), and discard all Long Header packets that have a valid auth tag. Thinking a bit more about routing during the handshake, it seems to me that the current spec would make sense if it wasn't for 0-RTT: In that case, you could randomly assign an Initial packet with a client-chosen CID to any backend server, and the immediate switch to server-chosen CIDs would make sure that all packets sent in the second flight are routed back to that server. However, 0-RTT breaks that assumption, since the first flight contains (a lot) more than just one packet, and 0-RTT packets need to be routed to that server as well. A LB therefore needs to implement two different routing schemes anyway. I might be missing something here, but I can't see a big disadvantage of using the routing scheme based on client-chosen CIDs until the completion of the handshake, as @nibanks proposes, and only switching to server-chosen CIDs for Short Header packets. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2834#issuecomment-504805050 ----==_mimepart_5d102072446d0_583d3f9447ecd964452623 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

So, practically, that means Long Header packets could have one of two = types of CIDs: client chosen or server chosen.

The LB could append an auth tag to CIDs that it generates, which would= allow it to distinguish between its own and client generated CIDs.

To prevent attack vectors from being exposed, the LB practically needs= to use different routing logic for each type of CID.

I'd like to make sure that I understand the attack vector that you're = concerned about. An attacker could reuse CIDs which it obtained on an old= connection to reconnect to exactly the same backend server, and flood it= with (computationally expensive) handshakes. Is that the scenario you ha= d in mind, @nibanks?
Mitigating this attack would could be done by sending Retries, or by effe= ctively blocking a certain CID from reestablishing a new connection for a= certain time.
Requiring all Long Header packets to use the same (client chosen) CID, as= you propose, would indeed make it easier to mitigate this attack: A LB w= ould then require Long Header packets to use a client chosen CID (i.e. wi= thout an auth tag), and discard all Long Header packets that have a valid= auth tag.

Thinking a bit more about routing during the handshake, it seems to me= that the current spec would make sense if it wasn't for 0-RTT: In that c= ase, you could randomly assign an Initial packet with a client-chosen CID= to any backend server, and the immediate switch to server-chosen CIDs wo= uld make sure that all packets sent in the second flight are routed back = to that server. However, 0-RTT breaks that assumption, since the first fl= ight contains (a lot) more than just one packet, and 0-RTT packets need t= o be routed to that server as well. A LB therefore needs to implement two= different routing schemes anyway. I might be missing something here, but= I can't see a big disadvantage of using the routing scheme based on clie= nt-chosen CIDs until the completion of the handshake, as @nibanks<= /a> proposes, and only switching to server-chosen CIDs for Short Header p= ackets.

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----==_mimepart_5d10248667b64_20343fc1a56cd968376415-- From nobody Sun Jun 23 18:21:58 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8A8F1200F1 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 18:21:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zNKNXbXBR0fL for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 18:21:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D3AE61200E6 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 18:21:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2019 18:21:53 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561339313; bh=R3K2GD9p1t29s6ltqqmeafyU0uPTCHmlMXifYp2Y2j8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ha9HV2znYwRl+UgHJ3/HfBIYfcYgrZ+fanbd/ei+DfaxwEFdFk0Iqu78/2A012UB7 E7rCXIZuxgnkr6TaUf96G889N+8IRJ+9S45K0EkQonTCJ+bJCO7n3ooIVDQ8GSyDKN GkMoPbiSYhMBWdEW6k/EPFiqEpJGXzI+0iPEEjaQ= From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Long Header Packets and Routing Connection IDs (#2834) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d1025b126838_111a3fd2d72cd9604030ec"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 01:21:57 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d1025b126838_111a3fd2d72cd9604030ec Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The attack vector would only be for designs without an auth tag in the CID. I'm personally not a big fan of the really large CID designs, nor am I convinced that they are truly necessary for a complete and secure system. So, I continue to look into how it would be possible to route with smaller CIDs. For that kind of design, the "server ID" or SID would be encoded somehow in the CID, but not encrypted. If you applied this design to all CIDs, including client chosen CIDs, then it would allow an attacker to directly create new connections to a particular server, by specifying the correct SID. That is definitely not what we want in a design though. So, instead of extracting the SID out of the CID for client chosen CIDs, we'd just hash the CID with some private key instead, and use the hash to pick a SID. BUT that only works if you can differentiate client chosen and server chosen. As you indicated, an auth tag would help with that, but require additional complexity for the overall design. I'm looking for solutions that don't necessarily increase the length of the CID. Being able to route based on the CID consistently just by looking at the long header bit and then interpreting the destination CID accordingly would definitely make for simpler load balancing. It could even be version independent. I find the idea of a version independent LB very attractive. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2834#issuecomment-504807474 ----==_mimepart_5d1025b126838_111a3fd2d72cd9604030ec Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The attack vector would only be for designs without an auth tag in the CID. I'm personally not a big fan of the really large CID designs, nor am I convinced that they are truly necessary for a complete and secure system. So, I continue to look into how it would be possible to route with smaller CIDs. For that kind of design, the "server ID" or SID would be encoded somehow in the CID, but not encrypted. If you applied this design to all CIDs, including client chosen CIDs, then it would allow an attacker to directly create new connections to a particular server, by specifying the correct SID. That is definitely not what we want in a design though. So, instead of extracting the SID out of the CID for client chosen CIDs, we'd just hash the CID with some private key instead, and use the hash to pick a SID. BUT that only works if you can differentiate client chosen and server chosen.

As you indicated, an auth tag would help with that, but require additional complexity for the overall design. I'm looking for solutions that don't necessarily increase the length of the CID.

Being able to route based on the CID consistently just by looking at the long header bit and then interpreting the destination CID accordingly would definitely make for simpler load balancing. It could even be version independent. I find the idea of a version independent LB very attractive.

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@nharper Maybe I am wrong, but haven't we had interop based on the understanding that the 2 is the correct way (i.e. the "S" column of the interop matrix)?

(From the discussion in #2180, it sounds like an Initial sent in response to a Retry is still the same connection.)

IIUC, the discussion is about "cryptographic handshake message" (i.e. ClientHello transmitted as the payload of the CYRPTO frame) being consistent. Not about the key that encrypts (obfuscates) the frames.

One practical issue with option 1 is that it requires the server and the issuer of the Retry token to share the format of the Retry token (as well as a secret key to extract ODICID from the token in certain designs). IIRC, our previous consensus is to permit people to install DDoS mitigation boxes that issue Retry packets, without requiring such coordination between those mitigation boxes and the servers being protected (@nibanks am I correct?)

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----==_mimepart_5d1029d1e531e_aac3f9447ecd964404779-- From nobody Sun Jun 23 19:06:04 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9319712009E for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 19:05:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.374 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.374 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=0.726, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nKf8oiu_bx1v for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 19:05:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-22.smtp.github.com (out-22.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.205]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C94A120274 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 19:05:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2019 19:05:52 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561341952; bh=qocfgkC5NC36GZzC0PdmygoE9vTUKXwv/1n8lQSn0Ag=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Vdv+uXSixEHc85xJv3/zOLjQZ4nODDKMS4AaW2YbHqUkKPXC/lFY/xwhr7YPb1v8J uBhzujACRo/QcJEe75nfGywVeE/lApSVQQu1rDvWXBOBdD+f40rIWuJH/v9IAGIvK8 3kMKHSgoDVCmU0brfmABS+ZReJNWdyXoZuFer5/4= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Long Header Packets and Routing Connection IDs (#2834) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d103000b2f40_52e3fd3500cd95c366316"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 02:05:57 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d103000b2f40_52e3fd3500cd95c366316 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think there are two obvious designs here, though there may be more: 1) Change the CID routing based on packet type (Nick's suggestion above) 2) Use 5-tuple routing for all long header packets(Because 5-tuple can't change during the handshake) and CID routing after that. If we care about the first case, I think we need to change the current design, though I'd be happy to be proven wrong. One idea is to change to the new CID when sending packets of the next encryption level, since you have to parse the previous encryption level to start sending the next, but not change the current encryption level. ie: if a client processes an Initial and Handshake, then all short header packets would be sent with the new Handshake CID, or if the CID was changed in Initial, then all Handshake and short header packets would be sent with that. That leaves Retry. I assume we want all Initial, Handshake, and 0-RTT packets to be sent with the new CID provided by the Retry, but I'd be curious what others think? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2834#issuecomment-504813305 ----==_mimepart_5d103000b2f40_52e3fd3500cd95c366316 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I think there are two obvious designs here, though there may be more:

  1. Change the CID routing based on packet type (Nick's suggestion above)
  2. Use 5-tuple routing for all long header packets(Because 5-tuple can't change during the handshake) and CID routing after that.

If we care about the first case, I think we need to change the current design, though I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

One idea is to change to the new CID when sending packets of the next encryption level, since you have to parse the previous encryption level to start sending the next, but not change the current encryption level.

ie: if a client processes an Initial and Handshake, then all short header packets would be sent with the new Handshake CID, or if the CID was changed in Initial, then all Handshake and short header packets would be sent with that.

That leaves Retry. I assume we want all Initial, Handshake, and 0-RTT packets to be sent with the new CID provided by the Retry, but I'd be curious what others think?

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Receiving Stream States The phrase, `Before creating a stream, all streams of the same type with lower-numbered stream IDs MUST be created.`, is semantically equal to `Before all streams (of the same type with lower-numbered stream IDs) create a stream, all streams of the same type with lower-numbered stream IDs MUST be created.` This is not correct since all streams don't create a (new) stream. Moreover, by definition, a stream is created by sending data[1] or STREAM frames implicitly create a stream[2]. This indicates a stream itself doesn't create another stream. 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Change the CID routing based on packet type (Nick's suggestion above) I do not think that this is a viable design. An attacker controls both the client tuple and the initial CID. A stateless load balancer has to have the capability to change the CID, otherwise, it cannot balance the load between the servers running behind. > 2. Use 5-tuple routing for all long header packets(Because 5-tuple can't change during the handshake) and CID routing after that. Actually, there's a third design, that is possible under the current specification (and IIRC that multiple stacks already implement). As @marten-seemann points out, a server can use authenticate the CID, to tell at a very high probability if a CID was generated by the server. Initial / 0-RTT packets that contain an authenticated CID is passed to the corresponding backend server (or the corresponding pthread). Initial / 0-RTT packets that do not are considered as new connections. 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@ianswett

I think there are two obvious designs here, though there may be more:

  1. Change the CID routing based on packet type (Nick's suggestion above)

I do not think that this is a viable design.

An attacker controls both the client tuple and the initial CID. A stateless load balancer has to have the capability to change the CID, otherwise, it cannot balance the load between the servers running behind.

  1. Use 5-tuple routing for all long header packets(Because 5-tuple can't change during the handshake) and CID routing after that.

Actually, there's a third design, that is possible under the current specification (and IIRC that multiple stacks already implement).

As @marten-seemann points out, a server can use authenticate the CID, to tell at a very high probability if a CID was generated by the server. Initial / 0-RTT packets that contain an authenticated CID is passed to the corresponding backend server (or the corresponding pthread). Initial / 0-RTT packets that do not are considered as new connections.

When not under attack, packets with CIDs that do not authenticate are routing using the 5-tuple. Servers will generate authenticated CIDs that route to themselves. Therefore, all the Initial and 0-RTT packets reach the correct backend.

When under attack, 0-RTT is disabled / dropped. Initial packets carrying CIDs that do not authenticate are distributed to the backends using an algorithm that the load balancer selects. Initial packets that carry CIDs that authenticate are routed to the corresponding servers. While it is true that routing of a tiny portion of Initial packets is not controlled by the load balancer, it is fine assuming that the CID encryption key is unknown to the attacker.

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@marten-seemann Correct. It is also my understanding that we do 3 (not 2).

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@kazuho So long as the backend server has to give the OCID in the TP, you need the shared format/key for the token. This won't change that.

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----==_mimepart_5d103b72acd06_2a733ff7c02cd95c66924c-- From nobody Sun Jun 23 21:01:48 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 027861200DE for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 21:01:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.401 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.401 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=0.7, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id izSYQ-YFjhu8 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 21:01:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C62A120033 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 21:01:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2019 21:01:43 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561348903; bh=AtqxUs/LYhOkjYaqTcuSut06CMphf8MoJbXwkheOg1w=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=GShsVulH7l+lC2hn3cuH5zOV/d3nUY5Ct6VigsEP5Xzb0xZ4AMMWsa/0Ydd8NTnt6 fVZJzyVhtrKmMQOdH0jKln8njoC+OmcguYRYaJlSt1RyEqplX40ggWLt4Zn7syraoT k3awO5blqGc/q0l8ShTTpTQO3veupFhvgl3OahAg= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Refactor Push ID related errors (#2820) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d104b277e005_6a33ffaa28cd96c18002d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 04:01:47 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d104b277e005_6a33ffaa28cd96c18002d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kazuho approved this pull request. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2820#pullrequestreview-253191500 ----==_mimepart_5d104b277e005_6a33ffaa28cd96c18002d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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----==_mimepart_5d104b277e005_6a33ffaa28cd96c18002d-- From nobody Sun Jun 23 21:11:23 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1AC6120105 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 21:11:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.818 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.818 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.282, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Uj2W3sk55hcm for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 21:11:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 38E3212008B for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 21:11:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2019 21:11:17 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561349477; bh=3oeZIDIdEmZqNQI//mYsENw1tzfznlBcRKOipEfvNGE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=2OobhY4uGTPaNQ1l19eTC0WwBgCeKfm4k66KWza3wKXN7/DRQNJi2qB5vyVfsIbIQ oJYBCQ6NuCkQQ+xTxBh5ikgCWWhbgb6ZszKEIoKVgLMbNhr6bfxpOBZRPHHVUNvz6Z COKEguJmEg2abY3p+77UFvyAVB1z0vNQH73AIA6k= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] text about rejecting 0-RTT is unclear (#2829) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d104d655a923_7c683f94250cd96c3069de"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 04:11:21 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d104d655a923_7c683f94250cd96c3069de Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The QUIC equivalent would be to drop all packets of packet type 0-RTT. It is my understanding the existence of early_data extension in the EncryptedExtensions message indicates if the server has accepted 0-RTT (or not). Merely dropping the packets is not sufficient. This is because the parameters of a connection depends on if 0-RTT has been received; for example, in case of HTTP/3, until the client receives a SETTINGS frame, the settings of previous connection is applied when 0-RTT is accepted, whereas the default settings defined by the specification is applied when 0-RTT is rejected. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2829#issuecomment-504850056 ----==_mimepart_5d104d655a923_7c683f94250cd96c3069de Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The QUIC equivalent would be to drop all packets of packet type 0-RTT.

It is my understanding the existence of early_data extension in the EncryptedExtensions message indicates if the server has accepted 0-RTT (or not).

Merely dropping the packets is not sufficient. This is because the parameters of a connection depends on if 0-RTT has been received; for example, in case of HTTP/3, until the client receives a SETTINGS frame, the settings of previous connection is applied when 0-RTT is accepted, whereas the default settings defined by the specification is applied when 0-RTT is rejected.

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PS. What I think we need to clarify is that "use and acceptance" of 0-RTT is communicated the same way as TLS 1.3, by using the early_data extension.

That includes early_data extension sent in ClientHello, EncryptedExtensions, NewSessionTicket.

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Thanks @kazuho. That confirms my interpretation of how acceptin= g and rejecting is supposed to work. I=E2=80=99ll prepare a PR later.

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=0D = ----==_mimepart_5d104fe4ada43_313f3fba6e2cd964194554-- From nobody Sun Jun 23 21:31:43 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79F7D12027D for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 21:31:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.1 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BCZ4sasap1cO for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 21:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B149120033 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 21:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2019 21:31:37 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561350697; bh=Za60JK9g0awu3OyjMDu6Algk2WwgvbtNmiebx7MOLFY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=mdd/Y/eAZwzmsNkD5KM5m1pDwdcNMCj/6vfwzJR/vJ3uGm9iEmfKvmLKdAMBvCqjr UYKtnkRTBCTyFU2thax5Wb1HQzlzwLWFes1a7qK5CwGBBoW9p3nNSu/Us7qOkFsnET A8v9BknJHHhbN3zIxv62s9hy23l2n2B1D2LNpkqg= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clarify ACK of ACKs and bundling a PING (#2794) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d105229ca7fa_4eb13fda0a0cd9642349c8"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 04:31:41 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d105229ca7fa_4eb13fda0a0cd9642349c8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kazuho commented on this pull request. > @@ -2860,12 +2860,13 @@ valid frames? --> ### Sending ACK Frames An endpoint MUST NOT send more than one packet containing only an ACK frame per FWIW, the point of my previous comment https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2794#discussion_r295118147 was that "MUST NOT send more than one packet containing only an ACK frame" does not prohibit one from sending a packet that contains ACK and PADDING. This is admittedly a nit-pick, but discussing ACK-only on the send side while discussing ACK+PADDING on the receive side is confusing. Hence the suggestion to change the text to "MUST NOT send more than one non-ACK-eliciting packet per ..." > @@ -2860,12 +2860,13 @@ valid frames? --> ### Sending ACK Frames An endpoint MUST NOT send more than one packet containing only an ACK frame per -received packet that contains frames other than ACK and PADDING frames. -An endpoint MUST NOT send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response -to a packet containing only ACK or PADDING frames, even if there are packet -gaps which precede the received packet. This prevents an indefinite feedback -loop of ACKs. The endpoint MUST however acknowledge packets containing only -ACK or PADDING frames when sending ACK frames in response to other packets. +received ACK-eliciting packet(one containing frames other than ACK and/or +PADDING). An endpoint MUST NOT send a packet containing only an ACK frame in s/MUST NOT send a packet containing only an ACK frame/MUST NOT send a non-ack-eliciting packet/. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2794#pullrequestreview-253195589 ----==_mimepart_5d105229ca7fa_4eb13fda0a0cd9642349c8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2860,12 +2860,13 @@ valid frames? -->
 ### Sending ACK Frames
 
 An endpoint MUST NOT send more than one packet containing only an ACK frame per

FWIW, the point of my previous comment #2794 (comment) was that "MUST NOT send more than one packet containing only an ACK frame" does not prohibit one from sending a packet that contains ACK and PADDING.

This is admittedly a nit-pick, but discussing ACK-only on the send side while discussing ACK+PADDING on the receive side is confusing.

Hence the suggestion to change the text to "MUST NOT send more than one non-ACK-eliciting packet per ..."

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2860,12 +2860,13 @@ valid frames? -->
 ### Sending ACK Frames
 
 An endpoint MUST NOT send more than one packet containing only an ACK frame per
-received packet that contains frames other than ACK and PADDING frames.
-An endpoint MUST NOT send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response
-to a packet containing only ACK or PADDING frames, even if there are packet
-gaps which precede the received packet. This prevents an indefinite feedback
-loop of ACKs. The endpoint MUST however acknowledge packets containing only
-ACK or PADDING frames when sending ACK frames in response to other packets.
+received ACK-eliciting packet(one containing frames other than ACK and/or
+PADDING).  An endpoint MUST NOT send a packet containing only an ACK frame in

s/MUST NOT send a packet containing only an ACK frame/MUST NOT send a non-ack-eliciting packet/.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2860,12 +2860,13 @@ valid frames? -->
 ### Sending ACK Frames
 
 An endpoint MUST NOT send more than one packet containing only an ACK frame per
-received packet that contains frames other than ACK and PADDING frames.
-An endpoint MUST NOT send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response
-to a packet containing only ACK or PADDING frames, even if there are packet
-gaps which precede the received packet. This prevents an indefinite feedback
-loop of ACKs. The endpoint MUST however acknowledge packets containing only
-ACK or PADDING frames when sending ACK frames in response to other packets.
+received ACK-eliciting packet(one containing frames other than ACK and/or
+PADDING).  An endpoint MUST NOT send a packet containing only an ACK frame in

yeah I thought of that one - but didn't say anything because you are discussing send ACK's. But to correct yes, it needs to include PAD.

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I do not think that this is a viable design.

An attacker controls both the client tuple and the initial CID. A stateless load balancer has to have the capability to change the CID, otherwise, it cannot balance the load between the servers running behind.

@kazuho I don't understand how your statement shows that changing the CID only with Short Header packets is not a viable design. First, the LB isn't the one to change the CID, the backend server is the one. Second, the CID would be changing, but until a little later in the exchange.

Also, while I agree that an auth tag would likely be a solution, I do not believe it is acceptable that the only way to statelessly (and securely) load balance Long Header packets is to have an auth tag as part of the CID. We should allow for less complex designs.

Finally, using 5-tuple routing cannot adequately load balance parallel new connections on the same tuple (proxy scenario or possible attacker).

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----==_mimepart_5d10cffd60a10_26a73f99f1ecd96430896-- From nobody Mon Jun 24 06:43:49 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DA4112015B for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 06:43:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WHm759awwvlQ for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 06:43:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 328BD12012B for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 06:43:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 06:43:44 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561383825; bh=R3RHsS0NQYiQ7HCajiqQ/dX3p8qBkY3XuQBxWUOec78=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=GQvWQs1X2+LI83YRCa9b5dwjOK1VgZ/g+rYHm3wuVG3PrKV6qI3y9jpUbLXMooWQ/ n5pskdnxz/WNFnvnwOd2cxr63r2nTodce8EfPh9jOX4VFYeaS86IWKrb6U4ap/Pz4W dHbQprfIaQhlfzmJjwO9Uawb0MW3PBf0GNA26mKk= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Long Header Packets and Routing Connection IDs (#2834) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d10d390f24fd_d8a3f7f352cd9604558"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 13:43:48 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d10d390f24fd_d8a3f7f352cd9604558 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree with @nibanks that auth hash should be a 3rd option, but I don't believe it should be the only option. I also think option 1 can be viable with some small changes. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2834#issuecomment-505015677 ----==_mimepart_5d10d390f24fd_d8a3f7f352cd9604558 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I agree with @nibanks that auth hash should be a 3rd option, but I don't believe it should be the only option.

I also think option 1 can be viable with some small changes.

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From section 17.2.5: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-transport-20#section-17.2.5
"This value MUST not be equal to the Destination Connection ID field of the packet sent by the client."

This was originally added when multiple Retrys were supported. I don't think it's still necessary, but if it is, I'd like to add some rationale, because it's not obvious to me why this restriction is necessary.

Past slides from Martin: https://github.com/quicwg/wg-materials/blob/master/interim-18-09/retry.pdf

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If I understand correctly, it's still necessary to prevent a MITM from performing a Retry (and then removing the token from the second Initial).

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2860,12 +2860,13 @@ valid frames? -->
 ### Sending ACK Frames
 
 An endpoint MUST NOT send more than one packet containing only an ACK frame per
-received packet that contains frames other than ACK and PADDING frames.
-An endpoint MUST NOT send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response
-to a packet containing only ACK or PADDING frames, even if there are packet
-gaps which precede the received packet. This prevents an indefinite feedback
-loop of ACKs. The endpoint MUST however acknowledge packets containing only
-ACK or PADDING frames when sending ACK frames in response to other packets.
+received ACK-eliciting packet(one containing frames other than ACK and/or
+PADDING).  An endpoint MUST NOT send a packet containing only an ACK frame in

I'm not sure that change is correct. ACK only packets don't count towards congestion control, so they're somewhat special. I'd be curious to have @janaiyengar opinion on this.

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Fair point. Is that an 'attack' that we're concerned about? That sounds like @nibanks ideal DDoS device, actually.

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----==_mimepart_5d10df8642d79_10823fcfc18cd9641313cc-- From nobody Mon Jun 24 07:39:15 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BCBB12014F for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 07:39:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xvgaVr1TL6O4 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 07:39:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D4A1B12012B for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 07:39:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 07:39:11 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561387151; bh=yJxhvL5u7oqMxwjg+2dRd6/x8lLlJSSmuzgOSrYl+nI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Sw9r0Ni/MhHDCTDBC5wptaIdaKqFMjrEKzwLcCnh2IraXPVbogJYXA/gdMr1Ws2l6 w1rqbVZtjxcBA4gJL7jPZgqQs09OrR8siIOthuYufANEYXjzCPCD2eyLL7rTcfC+Mx FDa9Ak5K7nXOGCm666fx3gyaNHRTQYxA34KRMVs0= From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Does a Retry really need to change the CID? (#2837) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d10e08fcb663_5aee3fb3ea4cd96018379c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 14:39:14 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d10e08fcb663_5aee3fb3ea4cd96018379c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Generally, I believe the goal is to prevent all unauthorized tampering with the handshake. If it happens, it should be detected and the handshake fails. I agree with this philosophy even though it does make the Retry scenario a bit trickier to offload. Also, even if that was allowed, designing a DDoS device around it would be tricky still. You'd have to handle the case where the peer only pads their packet up to 1200 bytes **including the token**, so if you removed it, the backend server wouldn't accept it. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2837#issuecomment-505039122 ----==_mimepart_5d10e08fcb663_5aee3fb3ea4cd96018379c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Generally, I believe the goal is to prevent all unauthorized tampering with the handshake. If it happens, it should be detected and the handshake fails. I agree with this philosophy even though it does make the Retry scenario a bit trickier to offload.

Also, even if that was allowed, designing a DDoS device around it would be tricky still. You'd have to handle the case where the peer only pads their packet up to 1200 bytes including the token, so if you removed it, the backend server wouldn't accept it.

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Good point, it seems like we can fix this with an editorial PR to clarify the risk of not changing CID on Retry.

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(#2837) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d10fba0f1dea_5e273fa3222cd9682495de"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: DavidSchinazi X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 16:34:44 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d10fba0f1dea_5e273fa3222cd9682495de Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @nibanks the retry token is part of the initial encryption associated data, so if you remove it you'll need to recompute the crypto anyway. @marten-seemann can you elaborate on what the consequences of this attack are? It sounds like the attacker can close the connection by sending a bad retry. How is that different from having the attacker send a bad retry that changes the CID and contains a bogus retry token? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2837#issuecomment-505085436 ----==_mimepart_5d10fba0f1dea_5e273fa3222cd9682495de Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@nibanks the retry token is part of the initial encryption associated data, so if you remove it you'll need to recompute the crypto anyway.

@marten-seemann can you elaborate on what the consequences of this attack are? It sounds like the attacker can close the connection by sending a bad retry. How is that different from having the attacker send a bad retry that changes the CID and contains a bogus retry token?

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@ianswett The original_connection_id transport parameter ensures that part of the retry token is in the TLS transcript. If the retry token is protected by authenticated encryption (which it should) then transitively we already have tamper protection for the retry token. The issue here is that if the retry token is tampered with, then the connection is closed. But I don't see how changing the server connection ID during retry changes that though (as long as not changing the CID still requires sending the transport parameter).

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@DavidSchinazi I think one worry was that if a middle box had the ability to change the CID using Retry, then they could more easily attack packet protection. @kazuho could probably add more here.

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So, the effect of not changing the handshake message is that all previously-sent 0-RTT data is still valid, but has potentially been lost rather than queued. Clients obviously MUST NOT reuse the packet number for different data, but in their not-resetting, they also can't change the data that they've already sent in those packets.

They'll need to retransmit it, because otherwise there's a potential DoS attack by delaying/replaying a 0-RTT packet by one RTT against a server that does Retries.

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So what are the thoughts on limiting the initial packet to, well, initial packets?

Then you can route based on packet type. You can randomly or intelligently decide a backend based on OCID. You do not need to hash 5-tuples or attached extra information.

But you must define home, and possibly a CID, for other packets that are squatting the initial packet header.

I think I have previously argued against reusing the OCID in new connections 0-RTT, RETRY, or otherwise, but I really don't recall the details. However, using OCID for only one ongoing connection attempt is important to make the above work.

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----==_mimepart_5d11045a55c2c_75003ff1bc2cd95c112817-- From nobody Mon Jun 24 10:50:24 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCBB41206ED for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 10:50:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Nz1_UzNA_aQa for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 10:50:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 178E512004F for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 10:50:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 10:50:20 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561398620; bh=dq7dIU6RyYE5cZflIx+vsFyUqq4ZEabAIhIrtwCv7IA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=0FojzBbZ47+MpiqgC/+G4ECfVxp8ofhHpbj0Sm1/FUfdey+wi9X+u0W26xPHs2mQo jUbH57ODHW/orjspDgiWMtFdUPcwtQfu13jXlBAvRr6GSkqgJOXYbwQJJJlGKOUyXn nPhI1+xU9Y6SwzrCFYR7q+3pnW8ASWB+GQVlUS2g= From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Long Header Packets and Routing Connection IDs (#2834) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d110d5cd8ec5_1c7a3facc6ecd968293891"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 17:50:24 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d110d5cd8ec5_1c7a3facc6ecd968293891 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > So what are the thoughts on limiting the initial packet to, well, initial packets? What exactly do you mean by this @mikkelfj? Do you mean change the CID in handshake packets instead of short header packets? If so, that's definitely an improvement over what we have, but then requires the load balancing logic to be version specific, and I'm unsure how to load balanced new/unknown version numbers then. That's why I'd prefer changing with short header packets. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2834#issuecomment-505112319 ----==_mimepart_5d110d5cd8ec5_1c7a3facc6ecd968293891 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

So what are the thoughts on limiting the initial packet to, well, initial packets?

What exactly do you mean by this @mikkelfj? Do you mean change the CID in handshake packets instead of short header packets? If so, that's definitely an improvement over what we have, but then requires the load balancing logic to be version specific, and I'm unsure how to load balanced new/unknown version numbers then. That's why I'd prefer changing with short header packets.

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----==_mimepart_5d110d6b319ca_1f353facc6ecd968449555-- From nobody Mon Jun 24 11:18:36 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09C99120119 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 11:18:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1ZjSRjGGKVfy for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 11:18:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8646512006B for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 11:18:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 11:18:31 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561400311; bh=kPM9IcJTXpcZ9WRYQ2iAl3c5OVhXNt6aXeR5Cf26H4M=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=AAqkjHO8u5ESgfDCj0KjMNpmYxh1LRrQ0hvu2n7FQcX825fK2qhYBHJNWAvjPmgyB ZPCkHPUtTDeeDeKZT1rsdUAJxkkzy3PW4QBq4vjD0reZQo2Rc/aVZKTGLdJ8r5WRM7 USr37a+xqQORqNuR80T+XIoOsH7A+o2wkGO2+2x0= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Long Header Packets and Routing Connection IDs (#2834) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d1113f7826b7_7b23fd4f7acd968298466"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 18:18:34 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d1113f7826b7_7b23fd4f7acd968298466 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Couldn't we have something that isn't version specific? Initial packets are always initial and have a special OCID, the rest server selected. Temporary for handshake CID if need be? But not version specific to LB? That could possible also make 5-tuple stability go away which is great for mesh networks that don't do IP, though this is not in the charter. (I'm working a bit all over the place atm so not into enough detail here.) -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2834#issuecomment-505122410 ----==_mimepart_5d1113f7826b7_7b23fd4f7acd968298466 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Couldn't we have something that isn't version specific? Initial packets are always initial and have a special OCID, the rest server selected. Temporary for handshake CID if need be? But not version specific to LB? That could possible also make 5-tuple stability go away which is great for mesh networks that don't do IP, though this is not in the charter.
(I'm working a bit all over the place atm so not into enough detail here.)

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Initial packets are already version-specific, so you can't define any not-version-specific property of Initial packets. Any packet type is version-specific, because the only concept defined by invariants is long vs. short, and that version zero is VN.

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Initial packets are already version-specific

You could add a signal that is universal, just like long vs short packet. But I agree it needs to be added to the invariants.

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----==_mimepart_5d112995bb734_2aff3ff89dccd9604898c7-- From nobody Mon Jun 24 12:53:56 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E1D6120091 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 12:53:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3-h1pF_OKKnt for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 12:53:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-22.smtp.github.com (out-22.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.205]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D74AA120154 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 12:53:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 12:53:52 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561406032; bh=v0yXlbJs3clWUCn8tk7Z2ColqzrrpBkn+Og/0DU/bAg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ZTm/IG5iOLMcJG8hyylAvoi7rCDjxOW9S2lvVEBC6FrFdKJDEpesz2vVUXewHsO08 /H+uRAwpmHTywFR+HXduQPDRyi1JsXp9XazauBXyZKOiZNNCpFGkDSjdDpHp18pGJK ipwZyHxXIi6aAYuGFOAmjMV1w0idamgkKKmC/WrM= From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Long Header Packets and Routing Connection IDs (#2834) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d112a50b8f11_355b3fc972ccd9602548ec"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 19:53:55 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d112a50b8f11_355b3fc972ccd9602548ec Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit At this point, I'm pretty sure everyone wants to restrict any additional changes to the invariants. This likely wouldn't make that bar. The best way to have an invariant load balancer, without changing the invariants, is to have a general statement that the CIDs don't change in the long headers. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2834#issuecomment-505155167 ----==_mimepart_5d112a50b8f11_355b3fc972ccd9602548ec Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

At this point, I'm pretty sure everyone wants to restrict any additional changes to the invariants. This likely wouldn't make that bar. The best way to have an invariant load balancer, without changing the invariants, is to have a general statement that the CIDs don't change in the long headers.

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I agree the bar should be high, but the only time to change the invariants is now. So it depends on how messy the alternatives are.

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----==_mimepart_5d112bbb97842_355e3fc972ccd96026629e-- From nobody Mon Jun 24 13:11:24 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8177120137 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 13:11:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.455 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.455 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rxy8D-3yqA_8 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 13:11:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA67B120041 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 13:11:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 13:11:19 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561407079; bh=QfSrdiJOtLieXQmsEWNmG3f5eaATl7m/a010QQgMQEQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=vCatxlHnNhn/WMLEU1wma+dp77gVpAUxDLJuqEmYg1CFx5+dP204yzMKbWhwT4vwm 4k34mq+fypOCFbNEkaWtlATIaolxLgJ7qQibs6za64UUPJA932R+R23UkIh77Dnbqo YMNYNpzmugFRVDLk8tG1s+zIJXNM0Bbyv6Xxff9A= From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Long Header Packets and Routing Connection IDs (#2834) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d112e67ad605_4efb3f9d48ecd96464829"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 20:11:23 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d112e67ad605_4efb3f9d48ecd96464829 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @mikkelfj can you explain again why you don't like waiting until short header packets to change the CID? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2834#issuecomment-505160990 ----==_mimepart_5d112e67ad605_4efb3f9d48ecd96464829 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@mikkelfj can you explain again why you don't like waiting until short header packets to change the CID?

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I'm a bit of a loss here because I thought the OCID was only in the first packet and not in all long headers (and perhaps in 0-RTT/HelloRetry - we can discuss these separately). But assuming you have OCID in anything but the very first packet:

The first user created CID is name OCID for original CID. This one is random, or supposed to be. It cannot be trusted, and it does not contain routing information nor reliable entropy.

If the LB is to use CID for routing, OCID cannot be used, but it is important to know that it is an OCID. This is the information that I want in the invariants.

If the OCID only appears in the first packet there is no state. If it can be used in multiple packets (and not a retransmitted first packet), then routing must be consistent. There is help in the OCID so you must either use another CID if possible, or some other mechanism.

If that other mechanism is 5-tuple, you need to store state, or you need to route consistently. And you have to do it until you know that you have a useful CID.

If instead you can trust a server assigned CID on anything but the first packet things start to improve. Since we don't have a full handshake, any CID is a bit dubious still, but then CID's are always dubious to external observers. The important part is that the receiver can reject. The server can reject a server assigned CID.

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What I really want in invariants is a signal to know that a CID which is supposed to be server chosen is in fact client chosen. And secondary, I want a given QUIC version to use this OCID signal very carefully, but that is not an invariant thing.

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(I have a related issues to prevent replay attacks on 0-RTT based on early CID).

From memory, 0-RTT uses OCID to ensure the packet lands with the issuer of 0-RTT token. But that implies that OCID is used for routing, which is bad.

If the first server assigned CID is used for 0-RTT instead, you get proper routing to target without the mess. It is important that OCID is in the transport parameters somewhere for security reasons, but that is different.

I'm sorry if I mix things up here, this is just how I recall it.

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What I really want in invariants is a signal to know that a CID which is supposed to be server chosen is in fact client chosen.

I agree with this and that's why I proposed this:

All Long Headers use client chosen CID. All Short Headers use server chosen CID. Therefore, the Long Header bit (invariant) indicates the CID type.

With that design, an LB has two routing algorithms:

  1. Long Header (client CID) routing - For example, hash the tuple and/or client CID and use that to select a backend server.
  2. Short Header (server CID) routing - Extract server identifier directly from CID. This might entail decryption or just decoding a value.

Both algorithms can be QUIC invariant, but don't have to be.

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In QUIC v1 the first CID (OCID) is client assigned although most CID's are assigned by the authority controlling the receiving endpoint.

I propose to make it publicly visible via invariants which endpoint authored or authorized the CID. This obviously requires a change to invariants.

Such a signal could be single header bit similar to how long/short packets are identified.

It could be useful in resolving some LB issues with traffic routing in v1, but even if this is not used by v1, other QUIC versions might regret not having this signal.

Now, there is nothing in the invariants stating how CIDs are constructed, so by all means it could happen by a vote by the general british population. But, realistically, there are two endpoints and two responsible parties so it can be stated in invariants who authorized the CID even if it is unknown how or by whom.

It would require a change to invariants. But for the sanity of current and future QUIC versions, I believe it is important to know if a CID is assigned by client where a CID is normally assigned by the destinations authority.

See also discussion here: #2834

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----==_mimepart_5d1135b0ef61b_1f4d3f7dfdecd96033777e-- From nobody Mon Jun 24 13:48:06 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64FE8120099 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 13:48:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.455 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.455 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gBZszn6R08G1 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 13:48:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 877EF120041 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 13:48:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 13:48:02 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561409282; bh=Je749BhcN5iGiB74yCvcGKQmyR/0NZd3IGA1DQUCPlQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=c89zA5BUKAchbtXBnekDVHCX3gmkoFtsIn67RYjv2AHt+SAh0uLGiGE05Bjp+SJq9 HLtljHeweresi6NNWTvlrIJ7ZoLhNFI1eecx+8HZBiV8YyOCI6sJhEeB4IwXmRFzYP zQauciVwxBYQ5b28MsD4n3RWY0BxQBLhnpGm5/Aw= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Long Header Packets and Routing Connection IDs (#2834) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d11370225555_f543fc6148cd95c278867"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 20:48:05 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d11370225555_f543fc6148cd95c278867 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit But while we agree on the signal, I disagree that it is a good idea to base routing on a client chosen CID. I can live with that in v1, but not v2. If long headers is that signal, you a locked into this pattern forever. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2834#issuecomment-505174891 ----==_mimepart_5d11370225555_f543fc6148cd95c278867 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

But while we agree on the signal, I disagree that it is a good idea to base routing on a client chosen CID. I can live with that in v1, but not v2. If long headers is that signal, you a locked into this pattern forever.

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Note that long header packets is not a good choice of signal because if forces a decision to use client chosen CID's for all future long packet. There might be an overlap in v1, but v2 should be able to make its own choices. Hence an extra bit in the header. We have two unused.

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If you don't want to be locked into anything, I don't think it can be invariant. That's the whole point of invariants.

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Well, call it locked into ossification then.

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I do not think that this is a viable design.

An attacker controls both the client tuple and the initial CID. A stateless load balancer has to have the capability to change the CID, otherwise, it cannot balance the load between the servers running behind.

@kazuho I don't understand how your statement shows that changing the CID only with Short Header packets is not a viable design. First, the LB isn't the one to change the CID, the backend server is the one. Second, the CID would be changing, but until a little later in the exchange.

The problem is this "a little later in the exchange" that is introduced by the proposal.

In QUIC v1, if we ignore use of 0-RTT packets (that we do not need to care under attack), the only type of packet that has client-chosen CID is the first flight sent from the client. All the packets that the client sends in response to server's packet contains a server-chosen CID.

This is an excellent property.

When receiving an Initial packet carrying a CID that does not authenticate, a load balancer can assign the connection to a server that is the least loaded (or a server can choose a thread that is the least loaded). The assigned server (or the thread) would generate an authenticated CID that maps to itself, and responds with an Initial packet that contains that CID. Then, all the subsequent packets from the client that need to be processed would carry that authenticated CID, allowing these packets to be routed using only the CID.

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----==_mimepart_5d1145f85efb5_13123f87b28cd95c1521ca-- From nobody Mon Jun 24 15:02:08 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67BB31201ED for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 15:02:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.596 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.596 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LZMdhQPKXsvF for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 15:02:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 66BFB1201E8 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 15:02:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 15:02:00 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561413721; bh=QYlgvZym4TXjnM9klhR0Lyq33Xtb98/0TlfrwlE5O34=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Mkf0EZzAuztm3jn3YVc0eHTVmST2NIYD1YaZJk4bRr8QaE27KqL1DxW8gfb+H+Qrp KOhv5nBzRBHAJ0XJWeBGdZLUudM/okDwihzYj6wLyIRJ7kzbjdVVwsZE4P4vCdc87v +SFnZk7h0694H6lMdKMDYeO/+hzIuApOC1jMy6Pw= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Long Header Packets and Routing Connection IDs (#2834) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d114858f239c_4fff3fc1884cd96451664e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 22:02:04 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d114858f239c_4fff3fc1884cd96451664e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Also, while I agree that an auth tag would likely be a solution, I do not believe it is acceptable that the only way to statelessly (and securely) load balance Long Header packets is to have an auth tag as part of the CID. We should allow for less complex designs. > > Being able to route based on the CID consistently just by looking at the long header bit and then interpreting the destination CID accordingly would definitely make for simpler load balancing. It could even be version independent. I find the idea of a version independent LB very attractive. Routing packets based on client-chosen CID is vulnerable to DoS attacks, compared to routing based on server-chosen CIDs (the way I've described in my previous comment). Besides, if you are fine with routing packets based on client-chosen CID, I'd assume that you'd also be fine with routing long header packets based on the 5-tuple. Assuming that is the case, it is my view that *not* applying CID change to long header packet narrows the designs we can choose with no practical merit. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2834#issuecomment-505198558 ----==_mimepart_5d114858f239c_4fff3fc1884cd96451664e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Also, while I agree that an auth tag would likely be a solution, I do not believe it is acceptable that the only way to statelessly (and securely) load balance Long Header packets is to have an auth tag as part of the CID. We should allow for less complex designs.

Being able to route based on the CID consistently just by looking at the long header bit and then interpreting the destination CID accordingly would definitely make for simpler load balancing. It could even be version independent. I find the idea of a version independent LB very attractive.

Routing packets based on client-chosen CID is vulnerable to DoS attacks, compared to routing based on server-chosen CIDs (the way I've described in my previous comment).

Besides, if you are fine with routing packets based on client-chosen CID, I'd assume that you'd also be fine with routing long header packets based on the 5-tuple.

Assuming that is the case, it is my view that not applying CID change to long header packet narrows the designs we can choose with no practical merit.

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disable_migration, for example, is a boolean parameter that conveys one bit of information with a zero length value. There are likely to be more parameters like this in the future. There's currently an I-D in TLS that describes an extension for these sorts of boolean flags [1]. Maybe it'd be useful to allocate space for a similar bitmap in QUIC's TPs, too?

[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-nir-tls-tlsflags/

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All the packets that the client sends in response to server's packet contains a server-chosen CID.

This is an excellent property.

@kazuho with the current way things are spec'ed, and assuming you do not use auth tags in the CIDs and that you do not try to decrypt the actual payload, when a stateless LB receives an Initial packet from the client, how exactly is it supposed to chose which backend server to send it to?

In other words, how do you differentiate the very first Initial packet from the client (using the client CID) vs a response Initial packet (using the server CID)?

Besides, if you are fine with routing packets based on client-chosen CID, I'd assume that you'd also be fine with routing long header packets based on the 5-tuple.

As far as exposing attacks, existing (TCP/UDP) deployments already use hashing of the 5-tuple to route packets. Using similar logic (hash of CID+tuple) to route just initial QUIC packets doesn't expose any additional attack surface.

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In principle you could also negotiate feature masks that way. Client says, I have this mask, server says I have this mask. AND them together and see of the result makes sense.

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4.6 Of the TLS doc says:

A server rejects 0-RTT by rejecting 0-RTT at the TLS layer. This
also prevents QUIC from sending 0-RTT data.

However, this doesn't explicitly say that it prevents QUIC from receiving 0-RTT data. I suspect this is implied, but it might be worth clarifying.

I could imagine a server rejecting 0-RTT data, but attempting to ACK the client's 0-RTT packets in order to deliver a congestion signal to the client. I think this would be a rather terrible idea, so it would be nice to explicitly prohibit it.

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----==_mimepart_5d1151dc41ff2_381f3ff6a2ecd96012993d-- From nobody Mon Jun 24 15:47:30 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5AF41200EC for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 15:47:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lVjbNvM9BLN7 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 15:47:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 87D65120122 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 15:47:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 15:47:25 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561416445; bh=eRHsO8cve32k50gn19Rag4e4L0vl4cd6VT6tefIbCd0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=NFs9VsZNxSAUYAj/IOb2jO3tOB79jYvCY4yccvdemDk8eGF8gy2JSaviJo2BsT1a2 QyOKPFG3cuOPhPrH6yq4Ri+8TvCr2+mbuL4j2IdtxNpqbSS5luYxwDYo2lH3DxBggr PgUurFFc5FVGx/L34txG50pW/xS0/QX76GDznW/w= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Long Header Packets and Routing Connection IDs (#2834) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d1152fdb72f6_3d733f973a0cd96878490"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 22:47:29 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d1152fdb72f6_3d733f973a0cd96878490 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think the different viewpoints here implicitly assume different properties of the CID. - If server-generated CIDs are easy for the server to recognize, but hard for an attacker to duplicate, then @kazuho's design makes perfect sense -- check whether the CID in an Initial is yours, and route based on it if so. - If they're either difficult to verify or easy to forge, then you should only route based on CID if you retain enough state / embed enough state in the token to recognize when the client has switched to your CID and assume anything else is client-generated and untrustworthy. Handshake packets can't be sent until you've seen the server's Initial, which means that Handshake *can* always carry the server's selected CID, but we could decide otherwise without breakage. 0-RTT packets have to start with the ODCID, and they could change or not. Initial packets after the first round trip could change or not. My inclination is that server infrastructure SHOULD NOT route based on the CID in an Initial or 0-RTT packet, even if the client has switched to the one you gave it; you also SHOULD NOT route based on CID for a version you don't understand. In that case, it really doesn't matter whether the client switches upon receipt of your Initial. They can start using the server's CID in Handshake and short-header packets. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2834#issuecomment-505209548 ----==_mimepart_5d1152fdb72f6_3d733f973a0cd96878490 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I think the different viewpoints here implicitly assume different properties of the CID.

  • If server-generated CIDs are easy for the server to recognize, but hard for an attacker to duplicate, then @kazuho's design makes perfect sense -- check whether the CID in an Initial is yours, and route based on it if so.
  • If they're either difficult to verify or easy to forge, then you should only route based on CID if you retain enough state / embed enough state in the token to recognize when the client has switched to your CID and assume anything else is client-generated and untrustworthy.

Handshake packets can't be sent until you've seen the server's Initial, which means that Handshake can always carry the server's selected CID, but we could decide otherwise without breakage. 0-RTT packets have to start with the ODCID, and they could change or not. Initial packets after the first round trip could change or not.

My inclination is that server infrastructure SHOULD NOT route based on the CID in an Initial or 0-RTT packet, even if the client has switched to the one you gave it; you also SHOULD NOT route based on CID for a version you don't understand. In that case, it really doesn't matter whether the client switches upon receipt of your Initial. They can start using the server's CID in Handshake and short-header packets.

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One could also imagine changing disable_migration from a bool to an enum, if we want to describe a wider variety of functionality? I'm not sure if that's better or worse than a bitmap, but it's certainly more descriptive than a bool.

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Throughout transport, there is the idea that you MUST not acknowledge packets you can't fully process, so this should be against the spec. But it may be worth noting explicitly, probably in transport.

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Doing it in transport would make sense. Or perhaps in TLS by noting that if 0-RTT is rejected, 0-RTT keys must not be generated.

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Thanks @MikeBishop for articulating the different sides of things so well.

In summary you're suggesting that CID should not be used to route Initial and 0-RTT packets as they could/would be using the client chosen CID. Ok. Then that only leaves the UDP 4-tuple if you're routing statelessly. That has been just fine for TCP in the past, so at first glance it seems an acceptable solution for QUIC.

But QUIC connections are identified by CID not 4-tuple, and the 4-tuple can/will be shared for multiple parallel connections. So, if you route purely on 4-tuple then a client on a single local ip/port that creates multiple connections (proxy) gets all of its traffic sent to a single backend server. That's not a great behavior and I am trying not to get stuck with that.

Instead of all long header packets using the client CID are folks more inclined to accept all Initial and 0-RTT packets use the client CID? In other words, the CID doesn't change until Handshake packets?

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----==_mimepart_5d11569d5db05_56cd3faee3ecd96c10091d-- From nobody Mon Jun 24 16:11:48 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9662912012C for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 16:11:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mNqikXjSf8dB for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 16:11:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0AEF2120041 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 16:11:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 16:11:44 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561417904; bh=dqz6wsrixjRV646siY6I00K6O1aU2Pzt0Tw2BoA173w=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=fmr58iQftFBq3eOH134dXZJRK7DvifKVYzzUb7uxu9CLfQhEmAvTJb5HAC5aVe+nN ysKJiQITv+QlcfxeJ8wjA7xv9DzhH00eZLFvqEHEglYyt82YETi6WOjBC5j5EDE25B VoT9ajczqv4oq7t5lAarFnLEkj5xeIIldifbqJUI= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Long Header Packets and Routing Connection IDs (#2834) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d1158b0c3041_2943fbe97ecd96c3722f2"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 23:11:48 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d1158b0c3041_2943fbe97ecd96c3722f2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit And I think that leads to why the DCID can change in a Retry -- so that the server being routed to by the 4-tuple can bounce you to a different back-end instance if it's overloaded. However, another way to do that is to forward the packets internally and let that server respond with the new CID. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2834#issuecomment-505215048 ----==_mimepart_5d1158b0c3041_2943fbe97ecd96c3722f2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

And I think that leads to why the DCID can change in a Retry -- so that the server being routed to by the 4-tuple can bounce you to a different back-end instance if it's overloaded. However, another way to do that is to forward the packets internally and let that server respond with the new CID.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -2174,7 +2174,9 @@ NO_ERROR (0x0):
 : HTTP_NO_ERROR in {{http-error-codes}}.
 
 PROTOCOL_ERROR (0x1):
-: No single mapping.  See new HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME error codes defined in
+: No single mapping. Split into a few error codes, including

I would say that "This is mapped to HTTP_GENERAL_PROTOCOL_ERROR except in cases where more specific error codes have been defined. This includes HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME, ...

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To restate my suggestion, above, I'd suggest:

  1. Retry can change Initial CID - Presumably that's the point of Retry?
  2. Initial can change Handshake CID
  3. Handshake can change initial 1RTT CID
  4. ORTT only changes as a result of Retry

That provides consistency per packet type, with the exception of Retry. Maybe we'd prefer Retry doesn't change the CID, of Initial and 0RTT, but if that's true, it seems like we should change the design of Retry?

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Fixes #2829. Fixes #2840.

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@RyanAtGoogle I just added text about that to my PR that's targeting #2829.

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@MikeBishop the fact that Retry can change the CID only helps if you can then use the next Initial packet's CID to route packets. But you've already said that you SHOULD NOT use the CID to route.

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In #2831 (review), @MikeBishop points out that after a Retry, all 0-RTT packets sent in the first flight are still valid, although they will probably have been dropped by the server (unless there's significant reordering). That means that a client SHOULD retransmit all 0-RTT packets in the second flight.

We now have two different scenarios:

  1. In the case of a HelloRetryRequest, the client is prohibited from sending 0-RTT, and has to cancel retransmissions for all outstanding 0-RTT packets.
  2. In the case of Retry, the 0-RTT packets from the first flight are declared lost (without any effect on the cwnd though) and retransmitted.

Considering that Retry adds a roundtrip anyway (and thereby limits the usefulness of 0-RTT), and that we only expect it to be used by a server that's under attack (which makes it likely to refuse 0-RTT later in the handshake), does it really make sense to send 0-RTT in that case?

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@MikeBishop That's quite complicated, and I'm not sure if we've chosen the right design here.
I'd like to keep this PR editorial though. I opened #2842 to discuss this.

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@kazuho with the current way things are spec'ed, and assuming you do not use auth tags in the CIDs and that you do not try to decrypt the actual payload, when a stateless LB receives an Initial packet from the client, how exactly is it supposed to chose which backend server to send it to?

My assumption has been that it's the 5-tuple.

As you state, that's how TCP load balancers have operated, and we can do the same for QUIC.

Using client-generated CID for load balancing incoming connections is not a good idea because it is more prone to attacks than relying on the 5-tuple, because spoofing the payload of a UDP packet is easier than spoofing the source address.

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----==_mimepart_5d11626bf252d_5fb33f8b84ecd96c17158c-- From nobody Mon Jun 24 16:54:52 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90EC312010F for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 16:54:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.455 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.455 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id L5E0kCuAlOqz for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 16:54:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 23D5B120041 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 16:54:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 16:54:48 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561420488; bh=oqxfG927MLOm6KsXfTmlckK8uSnJZElk6O5Wdcl2xTI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=xbvwdERFBAmuFpLHs6XVg6DN5Lza589CcVvaiTJpa3NqkefCphHLm2YTq9DSgQqT+ 2A/JPM1T7kTl1Ji39fwiSVe48h2nDynLyVsGllVDVjlRp4NgUUe87CzvNWiBf1wCoC Q74dw30GIN/BZiVTlhWuK4xx9nHQWV4J6OrmVf1g= From: David Schinazi Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Provide Signal that SCID is client assigned (#2838) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d1162c81fa62_79ac3f8c932cd9688586a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: DavidSchinazi X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 23:54:51 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d1162c81fa62_79ac3f8c932cd9688586a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @mikkelfj can you elaborate on how one could use this new explicit signal? What problem does this solve? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2838#issuecomment-505223906 ----==_mimepart_5d1162c81fa62_79ac3f8c932cd9688586a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@mikkelfj can you elaborate on how one could use this new explicit signal? What problem does this solve?

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@MikeBishop Thank you for articulating the differences. I think I agree with your comments, with the exception being that

My inclination is that server infrastructure SHOULD NOT route based on the CID in an Initial or 0-RTT packet, even if the client has switched to the one you gave it

needs "unless the server has a way to test if CID is server-generated."

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@kazuho why is using a hash(tuple + CID) not acceptable? I'm arguing that for QUIC, tuple I not enough. QUIC is different from TCP because the tuple can be shared.

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This is interesting but it can also be implemented as an extension, so I'd personally recommend waiting until after QUICv1 ships to avoid delaying the core spec.

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If LB is behind proxy, tuple has no entropy. If CID is, say, 0, everything lands in the same spot.

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>  
-A server rejects 0-RTT by rejecting 0-RTT at the TLS layer.  This also prevents
-QUIC from sending 0-RTT data. A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a
-TLS HelloRetryRequest.
+A server accepts 0-RTT by sending the EarlyDataIndication in the ServerHello
+(see Section 4.10.2 of {{!TLS13}}). A server that accepts 0-RTT MUST process and
+acknowledge all 0-RTT packets that it receives.

How would you even acknowledge an invalid packet?

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@DavidSchinazi commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>  
-A server rejects 0-RTT by rejecting 0-RTT at the TLS layer.  This also prevents
-QUIC from sending 0-RTT data. A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a
-TLS HelloRetryRequest.
+A server accepts 0-RTT by sending the EarlyDataIndication in the ServerHello
+(see Section 4.10.2 of {{!TLS13}}). A server that accepts 0-RTT MUST process and
+acknowledge all 0-RTT packets that it receives.
+
+A server rejects 0-RTT by sending a ServerHello with the EarlyDataIndication.

I think you meant without EarlyDataIndication

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Thanks for the comments all! > ### State Synchronization -The decoder instructions ({{decoder-instructions}}) signal key events at the -decoder that permit the encoder to track the decoder's state. These events are: +The decoder signals the following key events by emitting decoder instructions +({{decoder-instructions}}) on the decoder stream. + +#### Completed Processing of a Header Block + +When the decoder finishes decoding a header block containing dynamic table +references, it emits a Header Acknowledgement instruction +({{header-acknowledgement}}). The same Stream ID can be identified by multiple +Header Acknowledgement instructions, as multiple header blocks can be sent on a +single stream in the case of intermediate responses, trailers, and pushed +requests. Since frames carrying header blocks on each stream are received and +processed in order, this gives the encoder precise feedback on which header +blocks within a stream have been fully processed. There isn't a requirement in QPACK that the blocks are "processed" in the order they are received on the stream -- that's an HTTP requirement. I think I should change this to something else, that indicates that the encoder must interpret the acknowledgements in the order the frames were sent. I came up with this, but it feels like it could use a MUST or MUST NOT in there: "The encoder interprets each Header Acknowledgement instruction as acknowledging the earliest unacknowledged header block containing dynamic table references sent on the given stream." > + +When the decoder finishes decoding a header block containing dynamic table +references, it emits a Header Acknowledgement instruction +({{header-acknowledgement}}). The same Stream ID can be identified by multiple +Header Acknowledgement instructions, as multiple header blocks can be sent on a +single stream in the case of intermediate responses, trailers, and pushed +requests. Since frames carrying header blocks on each stream are received and +processed in order, this gives the encoder precise feedback on which header +blocks within a stream have been fully processed. + +#### Abandonment of a Stream + +When an endpoint receives a stream reset before the end of a stream or before +all header blocks are processed on that stream, or when it abandons reading of a +stream, it generates a Stream Cancellation instruction (see +{{stream-cancellation}}). This signals to the encoder that all references to This is old language (see line 825 in the old spec). I'm not clear on what is unclear. > @@ -1035,17 +1038,19 @@ values that are not to be put at risk by compressing them (see Section 7.1 of ~~~~~~~~~~ {: title="Literal Header Field With Name Reference"} -For entries in the static table or in the dynamic table with an absolute index -less than the Base, the header field name is represented using the relative -index of that entry, which is represented as an integer with a 4-bit prefix (see -Section 5.1 of [RFC7541]). The `S` bit indicates whether the reference is to the -static (S=1) or dynamic (S=0) table. +The fourth (`S`) bit indicates whether the reference is to the static (S=1) or +dynamic (S=0) table. Finally, the header field name is represented using the +static or relative index of that entry, which is represented as an integer with I added one sentence in the static table section describing the index. I also normalized the three instructions that have an S bit to all use similar language. For header block instructions, do I need to specify that 'relative' indexes are relative to Base from the enclosing header block? Is it sufficient to just say 'relative' or 'relative to Base'? > An encoder MUST NOT insert an entry into the dynamic table (or duplicate an -existing entry) if doing so would evict a blocking entry. In this case, the -encoder can send literal representations of header fields. +existing entry) if doing so would evict a blocking entry. An encoder can always +send literal representations of header fields when the dynamic table is full I'm going to try omitting the entire sentence. People will figure out that they should send a literal? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2759#pullrequestreview-253702347 ----==_mimepart_5d1164867bfd7_46073f96b18cd96c390877 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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Thanks for the comments all!

In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

>  
 ### State Synchronization
 
-The decoder instructions ({{decoder-instructions}}) signal key events at the
-decoder that permit the encoder to track the decoder's state.  These events are:
+The decoder signals the following key events by emitting decoder instructions
+({{decoder-instructions}}) on the decoder stream.
+
+#### Completed Processing of a Header Block
+
+When the decoder finishes decoding a header block containing dynamic table
+references, it emits a Header Acknowledgement instruction
+({{header-acknowledgement}}).  The same Stream ID can be identified by multiple
+Header Acknowledgement instructions, as multiple header blocks can be sent on a
+single stream in the case of intermediate responses, trailers, and pushed
+requests.  Since frames carrying header blocks on each stream are received and
+processed in order, this gives the encoder precise feedback on which header
+blocks within a stream have been fully processed.

There isn't a requirement in QPACK that the blocks are "processed" in the order they are received on the stream -- that's an HTTP requirement. I think I should change this to something else, that indicates that the encoder must interpret the acknowledgements in the order the frames were sent. I came up with this, but it feels like it could use a MUST or MUST NOT in there:

"The encoder interprets each Header Acknowledgement instruction as acknowledging the earliest unacknowledged header block containing dynamic table references sent on the
given stream."

In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> +
+When the decoder finishes decoding a header block containing dynamic table
+references, it emits a Header Acknowledgement instruction
+({{header-acknowledgement}}).  The same Stream ID can be identified by multiple
+Header Acknowledgement instructions, as multiple header blocks can be sent on a
+single stream in the case of intermediate responses, trailers, and pushed
+requests.  Since frames carrying header blocks on each stream are received and
+processed in order, this gives the encoder precise feedback on which header
+blocks within a stream have been fully processed.
+
+#### Abandonment of a Stream
+
+When an endpoint receives a stream reset before the end of a stream or before
+all header blocks are processed on that stream, or when it abandons reading of a
+stream, it generates a Stream Cancellation instruction (see
+{{stream-cancellation}}).  This signals to the encoder that all references to

This is old language (see line 825 in the old spec). I'm not clear on what is unclear.

In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -1035,17 +1038,19 @@ values that are not to be put at risk by compressing them (see Section 7.1 of
 ~~~~~~~~~~
 {: title="Literal Header Field With Name Reference"}
 
-For entries in the static table or in the dynamic table with an absolute index
-less than the Base, the header field name is represented using the relative
-index of that entry, which is represented as an integer with a 4-bit prefix (see
-Section 5.1 of [RFC7541]). The `S` bit indicates whether the reference is to the
-static (S=1) or dynamic (S=0) table.
+The fourth (`S`) bit indicates whether the reference is to the static (S=1) or
+dynamic (S=0) table.  Finally, the header field name is represented using the
+static or relative index of that entry, which is represented as an integer with

I added one sentence in the static table section describing the index. I also normalized the three instructions that have an S bit to all use similar language. For header block instructions, do I need to specify that 'relative' indexes are relative to Base from the enclosing header block? Is it sufficient to just say 'relative' or 'relative to Base'?

In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

>  
 An encoder MUST NOT insert an entry into the dynamic table (or duplicate an
-existing entry) if doing so would evict a blocking entry.  In this case, the
-encoder can send literal representations of header fields.
+existing entry) if doing so would evict a blocking entry.  An encoder can always
+send literal representations of header fields when the dynamic table is full

I'm going to try omitting the entire sentence. People will figure out that they should send a literal?

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----==_mimepart_5d1164867bfd7_46073f96b18cd96c390877-- From nobody Mon Jun 24 17:02:28 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D18D120041 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 17:02:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9r5xCRau-n2R for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 17:02:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0162212015D for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 17:02:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 17:02:21 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561420941; bh=o9/QwrNqUlIO1GXX/LE3q4/5rKleYNlX6AA1wG/Rhj0=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=STqT3hX0+/lUThFuri96UKVgYLkUumuNtdyEnVg6+RcINHwKkfka1S9B4jlIm+2Hn xej0LGWPD2s6uhw11OBJUenLLGCm4VvgiNda5FXFzcIokHvYneQx4cU1jgo7K/LPFm CmQj7Nd824HgR3qqtWnCWQbxbqHS7xMvYnHnVDmU= From: afrind To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] e2c4d4: [qpack] rewrite abstract Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 00:02:25 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/qpack-editorial-0519 Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: e2c4d44a4cdcb3ac5bda9bc54b269a11286a2979 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e2c4d44a4cdcb3ac5bda9bc54b269a11286a2979 Author: Alan Frindell Date: 2019-06-24 (Mon, 24 Jun 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md Log Message: ----------- [qpack] rewrite abstract Commit: 308dbc1c383a7aedbf422dab18839bd7cdc56276 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/308dbc1c383a7aedbf422dab18839bd7cdc56276 Author: Alan Frindell Date: 2019-06-24 (Mon, 24 Jun 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md Log Message: ----------- [qpack] Minor editorial pass Commit: 4b045a2ab407631513e1e6f4f56168c2d27e80f6 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4b045a2ab407631513e1e6f4f56168c2d27e80f6 Author: Alan Frindell Date: 2019-06-24 (Mon, 24 Jun 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md Log Message: ----------- [qpack] Prefer header blocks to H3 frame types I tried to leave the text compatible with extensions that define new frames and/or streams that carry header blocks Commit: 7c029d6424b8851454fcf1d22cbf580d934c3ffe https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7c029d6424b8851454fcf1d22cbf580d934c3ffe Author: Alan Frindell Date: 2019-06-24 (Mon, 24 Jun 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md Log Message: ----------- [qpack] Reorder sections No text changes, only moved Blocked Decoding happens before State Synchronization Invalid References fits better in Decoder than Wire Format The encoder needs to send Set Dynamic Capacity first The decoder section flows better with HeaderAck/Cancel before ICI Commit: 2849f52e46f0f2b4f6f5875e7bd510260e87964a https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2849f52e46f0f2b4f6f5875e7bd510260e87964a Author: Alan Frindell Date: 2019-06-24 (Mon, 24 Jun 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md Log Message: ----------- [qpack] Editorial Clarifications 1. Dynamic table entries can contain empty values 2. Encoder needs to send Set Dynamic Table Capacity to use the dynamic table 3. Removed a redundant condition from the eviction algorithm 4. Cancellation may need to be sent even after reading the end of stream 5. Improved description of Relative and Post-Base indices Commit: 7515f1bef07fcf9669b4e76e3d6657d25e9f3ca2 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7515f1bef07fcf9669b4e76e3d6657d25e9f3ca2 Author: Alan Frindell Date: 2019-06-24 (Mon, 24 Jun 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md Log Message: ----------- [qpack] Move some decoder text to the decoder section It was in the encoder section Commit: 57b6a8fb01a0977048d01736edc4766df1fedfe4 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/57b6a8fb01a0977048d01736edc4766df1fedfe4 Author: Alan Frindell Date: 2019-06-24 (Mon, 24 Jun 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md Log Message: ----------- [qpack] Move some explanatory text from Wire Format to Decoder section Some editorial changes to the text Commit: edb694793023e0dc7da5ee1cac1e82ff8fd62b30 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/edb694793023e0dc7da5ee1cac1e82ff8fd62b30 Author: Alan Frindell Date: 2019-06-24 (Mon, 24 Jun 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md Log Message: ----------- [qpack] Make the instruction text more consistent * Use a consistent format for describing the insutrction/representation for all instructions in a given class * Make sure all the bits are described accurately in text since the drawings are non-normative * Clean up a little regular vs post-base language * Rewrote the intro section to encoder instructions Commit: 002057185aac27ae0e7e3852ca610319827441d4 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/002057185aac27ae0e7e3852ca610319827441d4 Author: Alan Frindell Date: 2019-06-24 (Mon, 24 Jun 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md Log Message: ----------- [qpack] Remove redundant stream text, update TOC Commit: bbb7d3d968a277d3d7825e7d50ecdb9cf6348368 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/bbb7d3d968a277d3d7825e7d50ecdb9cf6348368 Author: Alan Frindell Date: 2019-06-24 (Mon, 24 Jun 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md Log Message: ----------- [qpack] Header blocks carry representations Commit: 8dfe13435f086a0c5197027e2f223c0f0122907f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8dfe13435f086a0c5197027e2f223c0f0122907f Author: Alan Frindell Date: 2019-06-24 (Mon, 24 Jun 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md Log Message: ----------- Review feedback from everyone Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/add91327c5e3...8dfe13435f08 From nobody Mon Jun 24 17:02:51 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 242BC12015D for ; 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This also prevents -QUIC from sending 0-RTT data. A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a -TLS HelloRetryRequest. +A server accepts 0-RTT by sending the EarlyDataIndication in the ServerHello +(see Section 4.10.2 of {{!TLS13}}). A server that accepts 0-RTT MUST process and +acknowledge all 0-RTT packets that it receives. + +A server rejects 0-RTT by sending a ServerHello with the EarlyDataIndication. +When rejecting 0-RTT, a server MUST NOT process any 0-RTT packets, even if it is +in possesion of the keys to do so. A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends +a TLS HelloRetryRequest. I think we should add text specifying what a client does if the server rejects 0-RTT but ACKs 0-RTT packets - probably PROTOCOL_VIOLATION. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@DavidSchinazi commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>  
-A server rejects 0-RTT by rejecting 0-RTT at the TLS layer.  This also prevents
-QUIC from sending 0-RTT data. A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a
-TLS HelloRetryRequest.
+A server accepts 0-RTT by sending the EarlyDataIndication in the ServerHello
+(see Section 4.10.2 of {{!TLS13}}). A server that accepts 0-RTT MUST process and
+acknowledge all 0-RTT packets that it receives.
+
+A server rejects 0-RTT by sending a ServerHello with the EarlyDataIndication.
+When rejecting 0-RTT, a server MUST NOT process any 0-RTT packets, even if it is
+in possesion of the keys to do so. A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends
+a TLS HelloRetryRequest.

I think we should add text specifying what a client does if the server rejects 0-RTT but ACKs 0-RTT packets - probably PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.

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@ianswett IIUC, the design principle has been to allow the server to initiate a CID change for the packets that the client sends in response, when the server receives the incoming packet for the first time. Generally speaking, I think that having the capability to switch the CID just once is sufficient.

That's why we allow server's Initial to change the CID.

However, because we'd also want a way to validate reachability, we added Retry. Then, because we thought that having the capability to redistribute the load using Retry would be a good idea, we added the capability to switch CID in Retry.

We can forbid the change of CID using Initial packets when Retry is used. But IIRC the question was what we gain from having such prohibition. Assuming that it's just an addition of complexity without any gain, we just allowed CID to change at most twice, once by Retry, and then by Initial.

While I agree that the design is not clean-cut, I think it's very pragmatic and fullfills our needs.

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@mikkelfj if the CID is the same, then it's the same connection.

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[ci skip] From nobody Mon Jun 24 17:06:05 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1330312016C for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 17:06:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WAvmtcT1dcIM for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 17:06:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 79B7A120041 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 17:06:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 17:06:00 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561421160; bh=9CwZe3hqOPBaTOX58mrOmjFSC54Fe5ql3ta1XUsxOCc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=vtem+jvuWg0DQEgcviHYKAbtec3ocakdbJZJ5n8IFEopPdtMZcKTHeoSPTsIheyJE /mU7eCCeMIotx2hHRWKu94QjRK1gaMAMXKG+OkFIOh8EjAjZ2zdLWhVHYuFwyFqN9b 5TIXKAOVE4yks3XXHqUSVdDA9indv9ajj7dxIlAo= From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Long Header Packets and Routing Connection IDs (#2834) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d116568be66c_29c43fd6378cd96080288"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 00:06:04 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d116568be66c_29c43fd6378cd96080288 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > While I agree that the design is not clean-cut, I think it's very pragmatic and fullfills our needs. @kazuho until we have a design that allows for load balancing unique connections, independent of tuple, without using an auth tag in the CID, I will have to disagree with you. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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While I agree that the design is not clean-cut, I think it's very pragmatic and fullfills our needs.

@kazuho until we have a design that allows for load balancing unique connections, independent of tuple, without using an auth tag in the CID, I will have to disagree with you.

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why is using a hash(tuple + CID) not acceptable? I'm arguing that for QUIC, tuple I not enough. QUIC is different from TCP because the tuple can be shared.

I had thought that sharing 5-tuple among multiple QUIC connections is easy, but I no longer think that is correct.

A client cannot establish multiple QUIC connections using the same 5-tuple, unless it knows beforehand that the server is using a non-zero-length server CID. That requires out-of-band negotiation beforehand, and I am afraid how much we need to care about such usage.

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----==_mimepart_5d11661665ca0_23ce3fde846cd96c723c7-- From nobody Mon Jun 24 17:09:57 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CE941200B6 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 17:09:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.596 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.596 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id h8gX_akN5VqC for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 17:09:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD902120041 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 17:09:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 17:09:53 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561421393; bh=kQkd+1gDHdT3YwIfwIOTZWIJ8qbjuYj35ReCwFxnTIA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=lbp2a6PXrzrAyPAIZBxO1awC0f9OTeEuJMiq+hAnw+ZZvGJqBc8oPtSVf4IgDFaaT SR4E1uWa2SdpF/fhkkZULQw7Ru0V2q9nqsz2ooBEkTqDbTEhWu5fJjUcmQGJCHvKgR AhpDIMweUQfUYn1E0K0x0nRK5Hdlc4b3XeTlGT1c= From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] describe how 0-RTT is accepted and rejected (#2841) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d116651d41e9_26853f9a69ecd96436433"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 00:09:56 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d116651d41e9_26853f9a69ecd96436433 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit marten-seemann commented on this pull request. > -A server rejects 0-RTT by rejecting 0-RTT at the TLS layer. This also prevents -QUIC from sending 0-RTT data. A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a -TLS HelloRetryRequest. +A server accepts 0-RTT by sending the EarlyDataIndication in the ServerHello +(see Section 4.10.2 of {{!TLS13}}). A server that accepts 0-RTT MUST process and +acknowledge all 0-RTT packets that it receives. + +A server rejects 0-RTT by sending a ServerHello with the EarlyDataIndication. +When rejecting 0-RTT, a server MUST NOT process any 0-RTT packets, even if it is +in possesion of the keys to do so. A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends +a TLS HelloRetryRequest. Thanks. I added a sentence about that. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2841#discussion_r296962176 ----==_mimepart_5d116651d41e9_26853f9a69ecd96436433 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>  
-A server rejects 0-RTT by rejecting 0-RTT at the TLS layer.  This also prevents
-QUIC from sending 0-RTT data. A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a
-TLS HelloRetryRequest.
+A server accepts 0-RTT by sending the EarlyDataIndication in the ServerHello
+(see Section 4.10.2 of {{!TLS13}}). A server that accepts 0-RTT MUST process and
+acknowledge all 0-RTT packets that it receives.
+
+A server rejects 0-RTT by sending a ServerHello with the EarlyDataIndication.
+When rejecting 0-RTT, a server MUST NOT process any 0-RTT packets, even if it is
+in possesion of the keys to do so. A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends
+a TLS HelloRetryRequest.

Thanks. I added a sentence about that.

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An LB may use this signal as an indication that it may choose an arbitrary endpoint without the need for consistent routing and consequently QUIC versions should be designed accordingly.

Load Balancers need to make qualified decision on how to route traffic, especially when the connection is being established. If the LB is always willing to do a cryptographic validation of the CID, it can use that as a signal but a load balancer that needs to a fast decision cannot trust client generated CID's because they might just have poor entropy, or they might be constructed to DoS a single endpoint.

The signal could also be encoded as a bit in the CID itself, but that is just moving a header bit.
Some have proposed using the long header to detect if the CID is client generated, but that prevents the long header from switching to server chosen CID early, and it would ossify in LB at the peril of future QUIC versions.

A common solution for CID'less routing is to use a 4-tuple hash, instead of a client CID, but that requires that you know that you need to do it, as opposed to using a server generated CID. A 4-tuple hash will not work behind a proxy where the original source IP is lost. It will also not work in future non-IP networks where CID is used for routing alone. Today QUIC v1 requires the handshake to be 4-tuple stable which is probably fine, but it is not necessarily fine in all future versions or all kinds of deployments.

Of course an endpoint can lie about the CID bit, but that should be enable to successfully establish or maintain a connection. Other on-path entities could manipulate the bit, but the same can be said for other header parts that might affect routing.

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I'm not sure I understand. As a load balancer, you can only trust a server-issued CID if it decrypts correctly. Since you're therefore checking decryption for each packet, then you already have access to the bit, the connection is server-issued if it decrypts. Or are you suggesting that there are times where you don't attempt decryption?

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@kazuho can't a client share the same 5-tuple by using client connection IDs?

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I agree with @DavidSchinazi. The load balancer has to prove if the CID is in fact server-generated. Then, there's no benefit, computational-wise, between having the bit exposed vs. having the bit embedded in the CID.

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My inclination is that server infrastructure SHOULD NOT route based on the CID in an Initial or 0-RTT packet, even if the client has switched to the one you gave it

needs "unless the server has a way to test if CID is server-generated."

This check only works if you assume that a client's connection ID is generated randomly, right?
This assumption doesn't hold in the case of an attacker, who, as I've pointed out earlier, could reuse a connection ID that it obtained on an earlier connection to target the specific backend server it was connected to.

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@kazuho I'm not sure I understand the attack, if the middlebox has access to the server's retry token key then it can do bad things, but I don't think that's worth protecting against.

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My inclination is that server infrastructure SHOULD NOT route based on the CID in an Initial or 0-RTT packet, even if the client has switched to the one you gave it

needs "unless the server has a way to test if CID is server-generated."

This check only works if you assume that a client's connection ID is generated randomly, right?
This assumption doesn't hold in the case of an attacker, who, as I've pointed out earlier, could reuse a connection ID that it obtained on an earlier connection to target the specific backend server it was connected to.

It is true that an attacker can forge a CID it has seen previously, and reuse that to mount DoS attacks.

However, the issue is not related to long header packets (or how a connection is assigned to a particular node behind a load balancer). An attacker can for example, forge a CID of a short header packet and create multiple copies of short header packets.

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However, the issue is not related to long header packets (or how a connection is assigned to a particular node behind a load balancer). An attacker can for example, forge a CID of a short header packet and create multiple copies of short header packets.

The impact of that attack is different though. For a short header packet, all an attacker can do is force a trial decryption of a packet (which is cheap). For a long header packet, it can initiate a new TLS handshake (which is expensive).

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can't a client share the same 5-tuple by using client connection IDs?

It's the packets going to the server. A server using 0-byte CID relies on the 5-tuple to identify the connections. When there a chance that the server is as such, a client cannot reuse it's client port.

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However, the issue is not related to long header packets (or how a connection is assigned to a particular node behind a load balancer). An attacker can for example, forge a CID of a short header packet and create multiple copies of short header packets.

The impact of that attack is different though. For a short header packet, all an attacker can do is force a trial decryption of a packet (which is cheap). For a long header packet, it can initiate a new TLS handshake (which is expensive).

No. Because for every one CID, only one TLS handshake is performed by the server.

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@kazuho Ah, right. Thanks. That said, a server shouldn't be using zero-length connection IDs if it expects to service multiple connections on the same IP+port. Perhaps we need text clarifying that? The current text doesn't discuss this use-case:

A zero-length connection ID MAY be used when the connection ID is not needed for routing and the address/port tuple of packets is sufficient to identify a connection.

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You can have 4 byte CID's that are designed to route to specific infrastructure but not enough to fully trust. But I agree that in many cases authenticating the CID can provide the information needed.

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Consider deployments where it is not always practical to share secrets between LB and endpoints, such as in public cloud hosting.

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@DavidSchinazi

That said, a server shouldn't be using zero-length connection IDs if it expects to service multiple connections on the same IP+port.

Would you mind clarifying why?

I think that a server can handle multiple clients using zero-length connection IDs if it disables migration. While I am not interesting deploying such a server, I am not sure if we need to prohibit such possibility.

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That said, a server shouldn't be using zero-length connection IDs if it expects to service multiple connections on the same IP+port. Perhaps we need text clarifying that?

I believe this is already covered:

A zero-length connection ID MAY be used when the connection ID is not needed for routing and the address/port tuple of packets is sufficient to identify a connection. An endpoint whose peer has selected a zero-length connection ID MUST continue to use a zero-length connection ID for the lifetime of the connection and MUST NOT send packets from any other local address.

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@mikkelfj commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>  
-A server rejects 0-RTT by rejecting 0-RTT at the TLS layer.  This also prevents
-QUIC from sending 0-RTT data. A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a
-TLS HelloRetryRequest.
+A server accepts 0-RTT by sending the EarlyDataIndication in the ServerHello
+(see Section 4.10.2 of {{!TLS13}}). A server that accepts 0-RTT MUST process and
+acknowledge all 0-RTT packets that it receives.

Fair point, but that only makes it harder to comply.

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In #2831 (review), @MikeBishop points out that after a Retry, all 0-RTT packets sent in the first flight are still valid, although they will probably have been dropped by the server (unless there's significant reordering).

I am not sure if I agree with the observation. The transport draft states that a server MAY send Retry packets in response to Initial and 0-RTT packets. A server can either discard or buffer 0-RTT packets that it receives (section 17.2.5).

I am not sure if I like this ambiguity (because I think most if not all of us will be dropping 0-RTT packets that carry the original DCID when sending a Retry), but IMO the draft is clear.

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----==_mimepart_5d116fd8323a7_52d33fc2002cd95c23945-- From nobody Mon Jun 24 17:57:19 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39A8A120158 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 17:57:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xSzy-W53rthv for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 17:57:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-18.smtp.github.com (out-18.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 292AD120165 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 17:57:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 17:57:14 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561424234; bh=Lpe/8/u6uMrzB6hpQHvxiIFejIIjBgZWSfM9BIbFWAI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Gbbwa/j9yP4RAcIrWwWpSwaKdwP8tK2f1v11ki76CNSUXIHP1nhGwTodgDXfe3pNH ACRKpHywhy8/VlEKXJe29cg8VXk2e6A6+ZsENul4TEyDggRT97Ujiykymwu4sV6umf U5ITZinJgENZsBrRag4PAwZHuTfAbJHPv9G8ZP+M= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] describe how 0-RTT is accepted and rejected (#2841) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d11716acc71e_528c3fc2002cd95c1303d3"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 00:57:18 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d11716acc71e_528c3fc2002cd95c1303d3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kazuho approved this pull request. > -A server rejects 0-RTT by rejecting 0-RTT at the TLS layer. This also prevents -QUIC from sending 0-RTT data. A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a -TLS HelloRetryRequest. +A server accepts 0-RTT by sending the EarlyDataIndication in the ServerHello I think you might want to clarify that the client uses the early_data extension when it is going to send 0-RTT packets. That's implied by this sentence (because in TLS a server cannot send the early_data extension unless client has sent one), though. > -A server rejects 0-RTT by rejecting 0-RTT at the TLS layer. This also prevents -QUIC from sending 0-RTT data. A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a -TLS HelloRetryRequest. +A server accepts 0-RTT by sending the EarlyDataIndication in the ServerHello +(see Section 4.10.2 of {{!TLS13}}). A server that accepts 0-RTT MUST process and +acknowledge all 0-RTT packets that it receives. I am not sure if we need to have this sentence, especially using a normative MUST. IMO, a server should be allowed to drop 0-RTT packets if it needs to (like resource starvation). Maybe changing the sentence to "Then, the server processes and acknowledges the 0-RTT packets that it receives." would be fine. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2841#pullrequestreview-253725010 ----==_mimepart_5d11716acc71e_528c3fc2002cd95c1303d3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@kazuho approved this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>  
-A server rejects 0-RTT by rejecting 0-RTT at the TLS layer.  This also prevents
-QUIC from sending 0-RTT data. A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a
-TLS HelloRetryRequest.
+A server accepts 0-RTT by sending the EarlyDataIndication in the ServerHello

I think you might want to clarify that the client uses the early_data extension when it is going to send 0-RTT packets. That's implied by this sentence (because in TLS a server cannot send the early_data extension unless client has sent one), though.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>  
-A server rejects 0-RTT by rejecting 0-RTT at the TLS layer.  This also prevents
-QUIC from sending 0-RTT data. A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a
-TLS HelloRetryRequest.
+A server accepts 0-RTT by sending the EarlyDataIndication in the ServerHello
+(see Section 4.10.2 of {{!TLS13}}). A server that accepts 0-RTT MUST process and
+acknowledge all 0-RTT packets that it receives.

I am not sure if we need to have this sentence, especially using a normative MUST. IMO, a server should be allowed to drop 0-RTT packets if it needs to (like resource starvation).

Maybe changing the sentence to "Then, the server processes and acknowledges the 0-RTT packets that it receives." would be fine.

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@DavidSchinazi Yeah I think that the issues being described in the provided links has been fixed by introducing the ODCID TP (and therefore requiring the retry token key to be shared).

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@nibanks PS. FWIW I think you can use hash(5-tuple || SCID) of Initial packets as a stable source to distribute the connections if you do expect to have connections sharing 5-tuple.

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@kazuho, thanks for pointing that out. My point is that we should change the draft (i.e. this is a design issue, not an editorial issue).

I am not sure if I like this ambiguity (because I think most if not all of us will be dropping 0-RTT packets that carry the original DCID when sending a Retry), but IMO the draft is clear.

The reason a server (or a LB) performs a Retry is that it either

  • has reasons to suspect that the client isn't reachable at the 2-tuple it sent the packet from, or
  • that it is under load, and either uses the Retry to redirect traffic to a different backend server, or just to buy itself some time

Under both circumstances, a server wouldn't want to allocate additional state for buffering 0-RTT packets.

I'm therefore suggesting to change the draft such that:

  1. A server that performs a Retry MUST discard 0-RTT packets.
  2. A client MUST NOT use 0-RTT after a Retry was performed.

Does that make sense to you?

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>  
-A server rejects 0-RTT by rejecting 0-RTT at the TLS layer.  This also prevents
-QUIC from sending 0-RTT data. A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a
-TLS HelloRetryRequest.
+A server accepts 0-RTT by sending the EarlyDataIndication in the ServerHello
+(see Section 4.10.2 of {{!TLS13}}). A server that accepts 0-RTT MUST process and
+acknowledge all 0-RTT packets that it receives.

Makes sense. I applied your suggestion.

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>  
-A server rejects 0-RTT by rejecting 0-RTT at the TLS layer.  This also prevents
-QUIC from sending 0-RTT data. A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a
-TLS HelloRetryRequest.
+A server accepts 0-RTT by sending the EarlyDataIndication in the ServerHello

@kazuho I added a paragraph about that. PHAL.

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Yeah, I can envision a server that considers buffering some number of packets to be cheaper than doing a TLS handshake. For such servers, delaying the TLS handshake until client proves it's existence but buffering the 0-RTT packets in the meantime would make sense.

That said,

  1. A server that performs a Retry MUST discard 0-RTT packets.

I'd be fine with this, assuming that the discarded 0-RTT packets are the ones that carry the original DCID.

  1. A client MUST NOT use 0-RTT after a Retry was performed.

I would prefer not having this requirement. Once the client is known to exist, a server needs to communicate with the client. Use of 0-RTT helps reduce the server load, because when used, average lifetime of connections becomes 1-RTT less. That leads us to having less concurrent connections.

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@kazuho that's a good suggestion. I will think on it some more, but I think that is an acceptable solution.

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When our implementation does Retry, it's because we've hit a memory pressure limit and we want to protect ourselves from attack. If a client supplies us with a valid token, we will accept 0-RTT still, but we won't buffer it from the previous Initial (without a token). So, if the client gets a Retry and still wants to do 0-RTT then need to retransmit it, with the new CID, in a new packet (with a new packet number). I don't see why that design should be prevented.

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A client MUST treat receipt of a NewSessionTicket that contains an "early_data" extension with any other value as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION. +A client that wishes to send early data uses the "early_data" extension in the Maybe s/early data/0-RTT packets/? I do not think QUIC sends early data. > @@ -613,16 +613,27 @@ by the "initial_max_data" transport parameter supplied by the server. A client MUST treat receipt of a NewSessionTicket that contains an "early_data" extension with any other value as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION. +A client that wishes to send early data uses the "early_data" extension in the +ClientHello message of a subsequent handshake (see Section 4.10.2 of +{{!TLS13}}). It then sends the application data in 0-RTT packets. + Early data within the TLS connection MUST NOT be used. As it is for other TLS application data, a server MUST treat receiving early data on the TLS connection Maybe irrelevant to this PR, but s/TLS connection/CRYPTO stream/. > -A server rejects 0-RTT by rejecting 0-RTT at the TLS layer. This also prevents -QUIC from sending 0-RTT data. A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a -TLS HelloRetryRequest. +A server accepts 0-RTT by sending the EarlyDataIndication in the ServerHello I think we need to state "the early_data extension" instead of "EarlyDataIndication". EarlyDataIndication is type of a structure, that affects the peer only if it is being carried by the early_data extension. > -A server rejects 0-RTT by rejecting 0-RTT at the TLS layer. This also prevents -QUIC from sending 0-RTT data. A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a -TLS HelloRetryRequest. +A server rejects 0-RTT by sending a ServerHello without the EarlyDataIndication. Same as above. > -A server rejects 0-RTT by rejecting 0-RTT at the TLS layer. This also prevents -QUIC from sending 0-RTT data. A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a -TLS HelloRetryRequest. +A server rejects 0-RTT by sending a ServerHello without the EarlyDataIndication. +A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a TLS HelloRetryRequest. When +rejecting 0-RTT, a server MUST NOT process any 0-RTT packets, even if it is in +possesion of the keys to do so. When 0-RTT was rejected, a client MUST treat +receipt of an acknowledgement for a 0-RTT packet as a connection error of type I wonder if this needs to be a MUST (in sense that the client is required to track the packet numbers it has used for 0-RTT packets, even when it knows that the server has rejected 0-RTT). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -613,16 +613,27 @@ by the "initial_max_data" transport parameter supplied by the server.  A client
 MUST treat receipt of a NewSessionTicket that contains an "early_data" extension
 with any other value as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.
 
+A client that wishes to send early data uses the "early_data" extension in the

Maybe s/early data/0-RTT packets/? I do not think QUIC sends early data.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -613,16 +613,27 @@ by the "initial_max_data" transport parameter supplied by the server.  A client
 MUST treat receipt of a NewSessionTicket that contains an "early_data" extension
 with any other value as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.
 
+A client that wishes to send early data uses the "early_data" extension in the
+ClientHello message of a subsequent handshake (see Section 4.10.2 of
+{{!TLS13}}). It then sends the application data in 0-RTT packets.
+
 Early data within the TLS connection MUST NOT be used.  As it is for other TLS
 application data, a server MUST treat receiving early data on the TLS connection

Maybe irrelevant to this PR, but s/TLS connection/CRYPTO stream/.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>  
-A server rejects 0-RTT by rejecting 0-RTT at the TLS layer.  This also prevents
-QUIC from sending 0-RTT data. A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a
-TLS HelloRetryRequest.
+A server accepts 0-RTT by sending the EarlyDataIndication in the ServerHello

I think we need to state "the early_data extension" instead of "EarlyDataIndication".

EarlyDataIndication is type of a structure, that affects the peer only if it is being carried by the early_data extension.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>  
-A server rejects 0-RTT by rejecting 0-RTT at the TLS layer.  This also prevents
-QUIC from sending 0-RTT data. A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a
-TLS HelloRetryRequest.
+A server rejects 0-RTT by sending a ServerHello without the EarlyDataIndication.

Same as above.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>  
-A server rejects 0-RTT by rejecting 0-RTT at the TLS layer.  This also prevents
-QUIC from sending 0-RTT data. A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a
-TLS HelloRetryRequest.
+A server rejects 0-RTT by sending a ServerHello without the EarlyDataIndication.
+A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a TLS HelloRetryRequest.  When
+rejecting 0-RTT, a server MUST NOT process any 0-RTT packets, even if it is in
+possesion of the keys to do so.  When 0-RTT was rejected, a client MUST treat
+receipt of an acknowledgement for a 0-RTT packet as a connection error of type

I wonder if this needs to be a MUST (in sense that the client is required to track the packet numbers it has used for 0-RTT packets, even when it knows that the server has rejected 0-RTT).

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>  Early data within the TLS connection MUST NOT be used.  As it is for other TLS
 application data, a server MUST treat receiving early data on the TLS connection
 as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.
 
 
-## Rejecting 0-RTT
+## Accepting and rejecting 0-RTT

super-nit: Every first letter in title can be capitalized? :) Maybe Accepting And Rejecting 0-RTT?

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@kazuho approved this pull request.

This PR looks good to me as an editorial improvement.

Regarding @MikeBishop's point, the transport draft explicitly states that a server sending a Retry can buffer 0-RTT packets that carried the original DCID, and process them after receiving a response to the Retry. To put it differently, I think we are clear on the semantics and that there are ways to implement this without having security concerns.

That said, I understand that @marten-seemann has opened a design issue (#2842) to discuss if that is the design we want to have.

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>  
-A server rejects 0-RTT by rejecting 0-RTT at the TLS layer.  This also prevents
-QUIC from sending 0-RTT data. A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a
-TLS HelloRetryRequest.
+A server rejects 0-RTT by sending a ServerHello without the EarlyDataIndication.
+A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a TLS HelloRetryRequest.  When
+rejecting 0-RTT, a server MUST NOT process any 0-RTT packets, even if it is in
+possesion of the keys to do so.  When 0-RTT was rejected, a client MUST treat
+receipt of an acknowledgement for a 0-RTT packet as a connection error of type

I don't think you need to explicitly track the packet numbers. Here's how I would implement this:
When 0-RTT is rejected, I clear all recovery state for the 0-RTT packets that I sent earlier. Now when receiving an ACK, I just need to run the standard check that it only acknowledges packets that I actually sent. No special case is required to handle this MUST.

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -613,16 +613,27 @@ by the "initial_max_data" transport parameter supplied by the server.  A client
 MUST treat receipt of a NewSessionTicket that contains an "early_data" extension
 with any other value as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.
 
+A client that wishes to send early data uses the "early_data" extension in the
+ClientHello message of a subsequent handshake (see Section 4.10.2 of
+{{!TLS13}}). It then sends the application data in 0-RTT packets.
+
 Early data within the TLS connection MUST NOT be used.  As it is for other TLS
 application data, a server MUST treat receiving early data on the TLS connection

I'm not sure what would be the best way to phrase it. We have 3 different CRYPTO streams though, one for every encryption level.

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Ok, I see that there's value in doing 0-RTT after a Retry, and furthermore, there seem to be good reasons (prevention of tampering by middle boxes) to disallow 0-RTT after a HelloRetryRequest in TLS 1.3, as @kazuho pointed out OOB.

Since we can assume that most (all?) server implementation will drop 0-RTT packets when sending a Retry, the only reasonable thing to do for a client is to treat all 0-RTT packets as lost and retransmit them. Considering that, it would make sense to require servers to drop all Retry packets from the first flight, as @kazuho suggests.

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----==_mimepart_5d11cefc40e99_61193fc4ec8cd96c12442c-- From nobody Tue Jun 25 03:45:59 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DAC8120019 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 03:45:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qzIklYDsj0K2 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 03:45:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7B7D91200DE for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 03:45:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 03:45:54 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561459554; bh=DYSrpVipP52/p/8UyOhGF7SuYlcKvKGDPfB0dVGggjM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=H9ZOZ4WxK2aPR1B2W5XA9E0vZMMgHdFRQDsSqnm6oyyAQFqfKi1XjsjzH17TpQzci hARaijRFKHqPVIQV1LdIEE/E1jNbcim+i1obk1rcSwsbZTLuGd47H+/F8n21+jlj96 hQrSeibur1jFbEK6Y3LRqq/eLlnoaxNnW3CX3GPc= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Does it make sense to try 0-RTT after Retry? (#2842) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d11fb6273b02_6a703feb924cd96c3917d3"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 10:45:57 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d11fb6273b02_6a703feb924cd96c3917d3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @marten-seemann > Since we can assume that most (all?) server implementation will drop 0-RTT packets when sending a Retry, the only reasonable thing to do for a client is to treat all 0-RTT packets as lost and retransmit them. Considering that, it would make sense to require servers to drop all Retry packets from the first flight, as @kazuho suggests. Thank you for suggesting a path forward. I think my weak preference goes to something slightly different. I think we are in agreement that most if not all the servers would not buffer the 0-RTT packets carrying the original DCIDs when they send Retrys. It makes sense to acknowledge the fact in the specification and suggest clients to retransmit 0-RTT data it has already sent. What I am not sure is if there is a reason to forbid servers from buffering such 0-RTT packets. >From client's point of view, sending 0-RTT data once per connection is an optimization. Retransmitting 0-RTT data when the server sends a Retry is further optimization. If we think that way, servers that buffer 0-RTT packets when sending a Retry has increased chance of utilizing 0-RTT data. Compared to that, there is no reason to mandate servers to drop 0-RTT packets. To summarize, I think all we need to clarify is that servers responding with Retries are likely to discard 0-RTT packets that carry the original DCIDs and therefore that retransmitting 0-RTT data makes sense. But nothing more. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2842#issuecomment-505390494 ----==_mimepart_5d11fb6273b02_6a703feb924cd96c3917d3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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Since we can assume that most (all?) server implementation will drop 0-RTT packets when sending a Retry, the only reasonable thing to do for a client is to treat all 0-RTT packets as lost and retransmit them. Considering that, it would make sense to require servers to drop all Retry packets from the first flight, as @kazuho suggests.

Thank you for suggesting a path forward.

I think my weak preference goes to something slightly different.

I think we are in agreement that most if not all the servers would not buffer the 0-RTT packets carrying the original DCIDs when they send Retrys. It makes sense to acknowledge the fact in the specification and suggest clients to retransmit 0-RTT data it has already sent.

What I am not sure is if there is a reason to forbid servers from buffering such 0-RTT packets.

From client's point of view, sending 0-RTT data once per connection is an optimization. Retransmitting 0-RTT data when the server sends a Retry is further optimization. If we think that way, servers that buffer 0-RTT packets when sending a Retry has increased chance of utilizing 0-RTT data. Compared to that, there is no reason to mandate servers to drop 0-RTT packets.

To summarize, I think all we need to clarify is that servers responding with Retries are likely to discard 0-RTT packets that carry the original DCIDs and therefore that retransmitting 0-RTT data makes sense. But nothing more.

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -613,16 +613,27 @@ by the "initial_max_data" transport parameter supplied by the server.  A client
 MUST treat receipt of a NewSessionTicket that contains an "early_data" extension
 with any other value as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.
 
+A client that wishes to send early data uses the "early_data" extension in the
+ClientHello message of a subsequent handshake (see Section 4.10.2 of
+{{!TLS13}}). It then sends the application data in 0-RTT packets.
+
 Early data within the TLS connection MUST NOT be used.  As it is for other TLS
 application data, a server MUST treat receiving early data on the TLS connection

Good point. Rereading the sentence, I think we can remove it as a whole.

As of -12, we transmit TLS handshake messages instead of TLS records. That means that there is no way of transmitting 0-RTT "records" using the CRYPTO streams.

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>  
-A server rejects 0-RTT by rejecting 0-RTT at the TLS layer.  This also prevents
-QUIC from sending 0-RTT data. A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a
-TLS HelloRetryRequest.
+A server rejects 0-RTT by sending a ServerHello without the EarlyDataIndication.
+A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a TLS HelloRetryRequest.  When
+rejecting 0-RTT, a server MUST NOT process any 0-RTT packets, even if it is in
+possesion of the keys to do so.  When 0-RTT was rejected, a client MUST treat
+receipt of an acknowledgement for a 0-RTT packet as a connection error of type

To clarify, what is being discussed here is about how to process ACKs containing invalid packet numbers. The general rule we have is that an endpoint SHOULD treat receipt of an acknowledgment for a packet it did not send as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION, if it is able to detect the condition (section 13.1.1).

Is there a reason we need something different for 0-RTT packets?

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What if client takes action on Retry, and the old 0-RTT state lingers - wouldn't that make servers more vulnerable to DDoS attacks from packet sniffers?

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>  
-A server rejects 0-RTT by rejecting 0-RTT at the TLS layer.  This also prevents
-QUIC from sending 0-RTT data. A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a
-TLS HelloRetryRequest.
+A server rejects 0-RTT by sending a ServerHello without the EarlyDataIndication.
+A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a TLS HelloRetryRequest.  When
+rejecting 0-RTT, a server MUST NOT process any 0-RTT packets, even if it is in
+possesion of the keys to do so.  When 0-RTT was rejected, a client MUST treat
+receipt of an acknowledgement for a 0-RTT packet as a connection error of type

Makes sense. I updated the text.

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@marten-seemann commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -613,16 +613,27 @@ by the "initial_max_data" transport parameter supplied by the server.  A client
 MUST treat receipt of a NewSessionTicket that contains an "early_data" extension
 with any other value as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.
 
+A client that wishes to send early data uses the "early_data" extension in the
+ClientHello message of a subsequent handshake (see Section 4.10.2 of
+{{!TLS13}}). It then sends the application data in 0-RTT packets.
+
 Early data within the TLS connection MUST NOT be used.  As it is for other TLS
 application data, a server MUST treat receiving early data on the TLS connection

Can we do that in a separate PR? I think it's orthogonal, and this PR already has a lot of commits.

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -613,16 +613,27 @@ by the "initial_max_data" transport parameter supplied by the server.  A client
 MUST treat receipt of a NewSessionTicket that contains an "early_data" extension
 with any other value as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.
 
+A client that wishes to send early data uses the "early_data" extension in the

Done.

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----==_mimepart_5d122f8fb44f6_276a3fdb1f6cd95c2811c-- From nobody Tue Jun 25 09:17:41 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C05D2120669 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 09:17:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lQ_vNP3LufZS for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 09:17:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-17.smtp.github.com (out-17.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 415721201EB for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 09:17:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 09:17:36 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561479456; bh=zWk1/mawGwCYrGxP3LX4Y5FX3DnDA2HkNuNJtrf0GfM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=S4ssp81ILzjwwJww3B78p/9Gmj++bg82NTd1Ga8HjIQy+Ui3a1pIolQrkI1l6gsHQ arPEQBS4iTC7EzgsudnmSlY6mTOQvORlmBAdUw3g7QX4hNamtp7eCVtvP5sDmmIWUq hNSw7pKD0f+fCHYKYS2fBn7cxMqV23V2CT4j7aQA= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Long Header Packets and Routing Connection IDs (#2834) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d124920e1743_2da33fce1cacd968228659"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 16:17:40 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d124920e1743_2da33fce1cacd968228659 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @kazuho So the suggestion is: If there's a non-zero length SCID, use that. If SCID is 0 length, use 5-tuple? Given you can't share a 5-tuple without using a SCID, that seems like a reasonable approach. If so, it should probably be written down in the QUIC LB draft? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2834#issuecomment-505516692 ----==_mimepart_5d124920e1743_2da33fce1cacd968228659 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@kazuho So the suggestion is: If there's a non-zero length SCID, use that. If SCID is 0 length, use 5-tuple?

Given you can't share a 5-tuple without using a SCID, that seems like a reasonable approach. If so, it should probably be written down in the QUIC LB draft?

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

>  
 An encoder MUST NOT insert an entry into the dynamic table (or duplicate an
-existing entry) if doing so would evict a blocking entry.  In this case, the
-encoder can send literal representations of header fields.
+existing entry) if doing so would evict a blocking entry.  An encoder can always
+send literal representations of header fields when the dynamic table is full

Maybe, but giving them a hint seems reasonable and generous.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -1035,17 +1038,19 @@ values that are not to be put at risk by compressing them (see Section 7.1 of
 ~~~~~~~~~~
 {: title="Literal Header Field With Name Reference"}
 
-For entries in the static table or in the dynamic table with an absolute index
-less than the Base, the header field name is represented using the relative
-index of that entry, which is represented as an integer with a 4-bit prefix (see
-Section 5.1 of [RFC7541]). The `S` bit indicates whether the reference is to the
-static (S=1) or dynamic (S=0) table.
+The fourth (`S`) bit indicates whether the reference is to the static (S=1) or
+dynamic (S=0) table.  Finally, the header field name is represented using the
+static or relative index of that entry, which is represented as an integer with

I think it's sufficient to just call them a relative index; the section defining that term describes relative to what in different contexts.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

>  
 While blocked, header block data SHOULD remain in the blocked stream's flow
 control window.  A stream becomes unblocked when the Insert Count becomes
 greater than or equal to the Required Insert Count for all header blocks the
 decoder has started reading from the stream.
 <!-- doesn't the stream become unblocked when the encoder receives the acks? -->
 
-If the decoder encounters a header block with a Required Insert Count value
-larger than defined in {{blocked-streams}}, it MAY treat this as a connection
-error of type HTTP_QPACK_DECOMPRESSION_FAILED.  If the decoder encounters a
-header block with a Required Insert Count value smaller than defined in
-{{blocked-streams}}, it MUST treat this as a connection error of type
-HTTP_QPACK_DECOMPRESSION_FAILED as prescribed in {{invalid-references}}.
+When processing header blocks, the decoder expects the Required Insert Count
+value to exactly match the value defined in {{blocked-streams}. If it encounters
+a smaller value, it MUST treat this as a connection error of type
+HTTP_QPACK_DECOMPRESSION_FAILED (see {{invalid-references}}). If it encounters a
+larger value, it MAY treat this as a connection error of type
+HTTP_QPACK_DECOMPRESSION_FAILED.

I worry slightly that people might get confused about which "value" is smaller or larger than which other "value", because that term is used to describe both.

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Thanks @kazuho . Given that, does anyone see a reason to require changing the CID with retry?

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@kazuho it sounds we can have either:
(1) server can share port and use zero-length CIDs (which prohibits migration)
(2) client can share port and use non-zero-length CIDs

We can't have both (1) and (2) because the client wanting to do (2) doesn't know if the server will do (1) or not.

@huitema and I have a use-case for (2) which is a QUIC proxy that only uses one port for outbound connections and relies on client CIDs for demultiplexing. I don't see a use for (1).

I'd recommend prohibiting (1) so we can have (2).

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I didn't see any other TBDs in the draft -transport doc or an existing issue, so opening this for tracking purposes.

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----==_mimepart_5d125b5cf0e08_18303fe360ecd96026286b-- From nobody Tue Jun 25 10:51:09 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2D60120AA1 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 10:51:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pFst-Nxj-7hQ for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 10:51:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EA838120A9D for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 10:51:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 10:51:01 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561485061; bh=1HCwud6XxwTIlLQnmFaws7t4EZXEzfJOvyoLmRjz9wQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=uzzMMg8K29lQAhS3dcSYHLWg5lZ/IU7TXJvjaPAeeJuz99Jl++0TUdkZYAXdO4wJE 1dRHGsHn6uftNQCmZGFXqvPTBpCpcCqEdcvUmdR0HsKVlCuaAXny0KZgpnxLNpoZEw SSmP4tAK2MD9cnURsaHPRETV9J3FcEvrOthuCy3s= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Does a Retry really need to change the CID? (#2837) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d125f05796d8_557d3fe57aacd95c697a2"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 17:51:08 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d125f05796d8_557d3fe57aacd95c697a2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Consider the case where: - Client sends Initial packet 0, no token, DCID A - Client times out the Initial packet and sends Initial packet 1, no token, DCID A - Client receives a Retry with ODCID = SCID = A. - Client sends Initial packet 2, with token from Retry, DCID A - Client receives a Retry with ODCID = SCID = A. Is this Retry a response to packet 1 from a stateless server with a high RTT, or a prohibited second Retry in response to packet 2? If packet 2 carries a different DCID, the client can tell by inspecting the ODCID field in the Retry packet. If packet 2 uses the same DCID as packets 0-1, it can't tell. Requiring a change allows the client to determine that the server isn't misbehaving in this case. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2837#issuecomment-505551934 ----==_mimepart_5d125f05796d8_557d3fe57aacd95c697a2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Consider the case where:

  • Client sends Initial packet 0, no token, DCID A
  • Client times out the Initial packet and sends Initial packet 1, no token, DCID A
  • Client receives a Retry with ODCID = SCID = A.
  • Client sends Initial packet 2, with token from Retry, DCID A
  • Client receives a Retry with ODCID = SCID = A.

Is this Retry a response to packet 1 from a stateless server with a high RTT, or a prohibited second Retry in response to packet 2? If packet 2 carries a different DCID, the client can tell by inspecting the ODCID field in the Retry packet. If packet 2 uses the same DCID as packets 0-1, it can't tell.

Requiring a change allows the client to determine that the server isn't misbehaving in this case.

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----==_mimepart_5d125f05796d8_557d3fe57aacd95c697a2-- From nobody Tue Jun 25 11:05:46 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 071C1120AB3 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 11:05:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.455 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.455 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IDxdCXi4z9Rq for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 11:05:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8473E120ABA for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 11:05:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 11:05:28 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561485928; bh=2O3QRz5OCjmh6eLZlRbyzk8CztgFybCrRyO6VoWRJ4w=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ODrGUCScOo7xiAyszNYZ7E9HfJvt6O1A3Zwjctb4/hWC94tS0JF8s9ZjpKC9Gpsdw Q3wOz9c4DKia8XcTVlRvFeO2zL9NH9o8xVrYNBenMjRrJ7AMKkS37jX8cZWzYA4IAC 6X0YV/FTvqgF9SxyITtGSU9rP968JQW3RINE8wXM= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Long Header Packets and Routing Connection IDs (#2834) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d126268516d9_344a3fd941ecd95c20148c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 18:05:44 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d126268516d9_344a3fd941ecd95c20148c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anytime an endpoint would like to terminate multiple connections on the same 5-tuple, it would need an incoming connection ID. Given that, I don't think we need to change anything in the existing spec. The combination of 5-tuple and SCID will provide enough entropy during the handshake and both are guaranteed not to change during the handshake. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2834#issuecomment-505557394 ----==_mimepart_5d126268516d9_344a3fd941ecd95c20148c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Anytime an endpoint would like to terminate multiple connections on the same 5-tuple, it would need an incoming connection ID.

Given that, I don't think we need to change anything in the existing spec. The combination of 5-tuple and SCID will provide enough entropy during the handshake and both are guaranteed not to change during the handshake.

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----==_mimepart_5d126268516d9_344a3fd941ecd95c20148c-- From nobody Tue Jun 25 11:13:17 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D16F2120B3F for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 11:13:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZFBltLopfomc for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 11:13:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 128F8120233 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 11:13:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 11:13:13 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561486393; bh=LzqlqHR9DrUeiWHKQb2AXcaw/vQ+1oYp7eHm35hnwwo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=zXCurwF5cnMSVwt/7avLL8gzb4qettVH+r6za/o07uLauhbSORVoSY8V5JFUxSLOC Dxh6ZouROz9fNccH3WjxcPS7WxAEr7ErMUm5jK91nDY9fAfYkc1G6LulFPkxmBrGwG UsmMVIZf5fkWNO+2imSC1hW8rX/3+OvViHVu0whQ= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Do Initial secrets change after Retry packet? (#2823) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d12643916443_556d3fe57aacd95c2497dd"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 18:13:16 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d12643916443_556d3fe57aacd95c2497dd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is already stated in a different section. In [17.2.5](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#packet-retry), it says: > A client sets the Destination Connection ID field of this Initial packet to the value from the Source Connection ID in the Retry packet. **Changing Destination Connection ID also results in a change to the keys used to protect the Initial packet.** It also sets the Token field to the token provided in the Retry. The client MUST NOT change the Source Connection ID because the server could include the connection ID as part of its token validation logic (see Section 8.1.3). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2823#issuecomment-505560244 ----==_mimepart_5d12643916443_556d3fe57aacd95c2497dd Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

This is already stated in a different section. In 17.2.5, it says:

A client sets the Destination Connection ID field of this Initial packet to the value from the Source Connection ID in the Retry packet. Changing Destination Connection ID also results in a change to the keys used to protect the Initial packet. It also sets the Token field to the token provided in the Retry. The client MUST NOT change the Source Connection ID because the server could include the connection ID as part of its token validation logic (see Section 8.1.3).

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Thanks @MikeBishop , that makes sense. I'm not 100% sure detecting this class of bad behavior is worth the added requirement on the protocol though.

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----==_mimepart_5d1265c2d28a6_2d173fafcc4cd9643875ac-- From nobody Tue Jun 25 11:19:58 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A008F120320 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 11:19:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eE4QMciJHXob for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 11:19:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 241501200E9 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 11:19:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 11:19:54 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561486794; bh=nOe8R6sHI1VBynLkpVz5p+/5XC91b7/JsvwLu/zlPeE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=M7P0LxIiiauSREdOAoRzi85tZVQYXidWqDlKkJdJqsY2pXEyuNdFpRbW+/3JcfowK /AthI/b40vTYnMab2KppJMNGeGz0xAwaIVKFC75jOkYAHv1Trrbj5FvQFp/tuvA/kR 3sgGF25TeIdDC2wERGjCS9dTytC4eTWMjukOXpjE= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Does it make sense to try 0-RTT after Retry? (#2842) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d1265ca9e70_40533fc756ecd9683433e1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 18:19:57 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d1265ca9e70_40533fc756ecd9683433e1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This also bears on #2837. If the DCID doesn't change, then the server won't be able to differentiate the first flight of 0-RTT packets, which you're proposing to drop, from the second flight of 0-RTT packets which it accepts. The current text says that the server MAY buffer and process them later; you're saying that servers probably won't. I think that's fine, but some might -- hence, I favor @kazuho's suggestion to retain the permission to buffer but the caution to the client that the packets were quite possibly lost/dropped. In terms of actual spec change, I think that means this text in [17.2.3](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#packet-0rtt): > After a client receives a Retry packet, 0-RTT packets are likely to have been lost or discarded by the server. A client MAY attempt to resend data in 0-RTT packets after it sends a new Initial packet. ...becomes a SHOULD instead of a MAY. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2842#issuecomment-505562759 ----==_mimepart_5d1265ca9e70_40533fc756ecd9683433e1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

This also bears on #2837. If the DCID doesn't change, then the server won't be able to differentiate the first flight of 0-RTT packets, which you're proposing to drop, from the second flight of 0-RTT packets which it accepts.

The current text says that the server MAY buffer and process them later; you're saying that servers probably won't. I think that's fine, but some might -- hence, I favor @kazuho's suggestion to retain the permission to buffer but the caution to the client that the packets were quite possibly lost/dropped. In terms of actual spec change, I think that means this text in 17.2.3:

After a client receives a Retry packet, 0-RTT packets are likely to have been lost or discarded by the server. A client MAY attempt to resend data in 0-RTT packets after it sends a new Initial packet.

...becomes a SHOULD instead of a MAY.

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@ianswett that won't work because short headers don't carry the SCID and if the server is reusing a port and has zero-length CIDs then it won't be able to differentiate short headers from the client if the client also shares its port between connections.

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We had other reasons why this was critical, but we've changed other requirements in the spec that eliminated them. (For example, when the client was permitted to change the ClientHello following a Retry, you had to know which Initial the server wound up responding to or the handshake would fail.)

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I thought @nibanks wants to route short header packets based only on the server's chosen CID?

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QUIC supports client connection IDs (CIDs) in order to allow a client = to multiplex multiple QUIC connections on the same local IP and port. How= ever, the current spec doesn't allow that to work, as pointed out by @= kazuho on #2834 : if a server decides to use zero-length C= IDs, then the client cannot establish multiple connections to that server= from the same local port. For this to work, the client would need to kno= w out-of-band that the server will not use zero-length CIDs, and that's n= ot viable.

Therefore we have two protocol features that are at odds with one anot= her:
(1) server can share port and use zero-length CIDs (which prohibits migra= tion)
(2) client can share port and use non-zero-length CIDs

We can't have both (1) and (2) because the client wanting to do (2) do= esn't know if the server will do (1) or not. If that happens, long header= s will be demultiplexed properly because they contain the client's CID, b= ut short headers from client to server do not and therefore cannot be dem= ultiplexed.

@huitema and I have a use-case for (2) which is a QUIC proxy= that only uses one port for outbound connections and relies on client CI= Ds for demultiplexing. I don't see a use for (1).

For client connection IDs to be useful in QUIC, I think we should ban = zero-length connection IDs when you're multiplexing multiple connections = on a local IP + port.

The current spec states:

A zero-length connection ID MAY be used when the connection ID is not = needed for routing and the address/port tuple of packets is sufficient to= identify a connection.

We may want to change it to something like:

A zero-length connection ID MAY be used when the connection ID is not = needed for routing and the destination address/port tuple of incoming pac= kets is sufficient to identify a connection.

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Sorry I may have derailed this issue off topic, I'm moving my topic to new issue #2844.

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I think your suggested text is preferable. That is how I think of using connection IDs, and it still allows 0 byte CIDs for P2P cases.

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> QUIC supports client connection IDs (CIDs) in order to allow a client
> to multiplex multiple QUIC connections on the same local IP and port.
> However, the current spec doesn't allow that to work, as pointed out
> by @kazuho <https://github.com/kazuho> on #2834
> <https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2834> : if a server
> decides to use zero-length CIDs, then the client cannot establish
> multiple connections to that server from the same local port. For this
> to work, the client would need to know out-of-band that the server
> will not use zero-length CIDs, and that's not viable.
>
> Therefore we have two protocol features that are at odds with one another:
> (1) server can share port and use zero-length CIDs (which prohibits
> migration)
> (2) client can share port and use non-zero-length CIDs
>
> We can't have both (1) and (2) because the client wanting to do (2)
> doesn't know if the server will do (1) or not. If that happens, long
> headers will be demultiplexed properly because they contain the
> client's CID, but short headers from client to server do not and
> therefore cannot be demultiplexed.
>
> @huitema <https://github.com/huitema> and I have a use-case for (2)
> which is a QUIC proxy that only uses one port for outbound connections
> and relies on client CIDs for demultiplexing. I don't see a use for (1).
>

Sure, but that use case comes with a deployment requirement. QUIC nodes
using the proxy service MUST use a CID of equal or larger length than
required by the proxy. This is a requirement on incoming packets, and
the CID on incoming packets is chosen by the intended recipient of these
packets, in our case the nodes behind the proxy. It is not a requirement
of outgoing packets -- the proxy will just send the packets formatted by
the client to the address and port that the clients specifies. It will
work even if Azure servers are using zero length CID. Theses servers
won't work behind a proxy, but they will reachable through the proxy.

-- Christian Huitema

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This also prevents -QUIC from sending 0-RTT data. A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a -TLS HelloRetryRequest. +A server rejects 0-RTT by sending a ServerHello without the EarlyDataIndication. +A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a TLS HelloRetryRequest. When +rejecting 0-RTT, a server MUST NOT process any 0-RTT packets, even if it is in +possesion of the keys to do so. When 0-RTT was rejected, a client MUST treat +receipt of an acknowledgement for a 0-RTT packet as a connection error of type Can we have "if it is able to detect the condition"? I do not think we need to recommend all clients implement the check only for this particular purpose. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2841#discussion_r297400698 ----==_mimepart_5d129165e7cb9_6f093fe66f0cd95c21935e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@kazuho commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>  
-A server rejects 0-RTT by rejecting 0-RTT at the TLS layer.  This also prevents
-QUIC from sending 0-RTT data. A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a
-TLS HelloRetryRequest.
+A server rejects 0-RTT by sending a ServerHello without the EarlyDataIndication.
+A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a TLS HelloRetryRequest.  When
+rejecting 0-RTT, a server MUST NOT process any 0-RTT packets, even if it is in
+possesion of the keys to do so.  When 0-RTT was rejected, a client MUST treat
+receipt of an acknowledgement for a 0-RTT packet as a connection error of type

Can we have "if it is able to detect the condition"?

I do not think we need to recommend all clients implement the check only for this particular purpose.

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@DavidSchinazi Thank you for opening the issue. I agree that this is a design issue that needs to be fixed.

Therefore we have two protocol features that are at odds with one another:
(1) server can share port and use zero-length CIDs (which prohibits migration)
(2) client can share port and use non-zero-length CIDs

We can't have both (1) and (2) because the client wanting to do (2) doesn't know if the server will do (1) or not.
(snip)
For client connection IDs to be useful in QUIC, I think we should ban zero-length connection IDs when you're multiplexing multiple connections on a local IP + port.

Agreed.

IIRC, the introduction of client CID was a deliberate action to allow multiple QUIC connections be coalesced on a 5-tuple. I think the reason (1) exists is simply because we did not notice that there is a conflict. Based on that, I think we should adjust (1) to allow (2) to happen.

Allowing a client use one (or few) UDP packets to handle many QUIC connections has benefits. It helps code reuse (because servers are designed to use one port for many connections) and also has performance benefits (because you can use one system call to read / write packets belonging to many connections).

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----==_mimepart_5d129675c18aa_17903fb4bbccd9682421f6-- From nobody Tue Jun 25 14:55:57 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD116120152 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 14:55:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9MIT0JPXSVsp for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 14:55:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 986AF120139 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 14:55:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 14:55:51 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561499751; bh=9MQ8USCnodoxJJlaD0VdSohtDJ6MESCtC5rAcouiSwo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=2C9jpmtwoxHxFcZgQqw3x4sjC6fTsOCYQpHfDcIO5cw4M4QrE753od0ZgemYlinqH RlztiB28cTV8+7AgzIWFFrkFYAx1w7rIVpOoWgvECbjDK/PlJmm7AOMuYZsBlaqd2L X+eCDH9oeEx+exHoQ0zrr3mkyMHnBUJAP+zBPSR4= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Long Header Packets and Routing Connection IDs (#2834) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d1298678e607_78e53ff2328cd96c39588d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 21:55:55 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d1298678e607_78e53ff2328cd96c39588d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @ianswett > So the suggestion is: If there's a non-zero length SCID, use that. If SCID is 0 length, use 5-tuple? > > Given you can't share a 5-tuple without using a SCID, that seems like a reasonable approach. If so, it should probably be written down in the QUIC LB draft? Yes, that's the suggestion, and I think we should write it down somewhere. I might even advocate for having it clarified in the transport draft, especially if we decide to disallow servers using the client's tuple to distinguish between the connections (#2844). We have said that long header packets can be identified to which connections they belong, by looking at the 5-tuple. However, for clients to establish multiple QUIC connections in parallel on a single 5-tuple, the server _has_ to identify the connections using `5-tuple || client CID` as the key. It's crucial, but not obvious. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2834#issuecomment-505637716 ----==_mimepart_5d1298678e607_78e53ff2328cd96c39588d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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So the suggestion is: If there's a non-zero length SCID, use that. If SCID is 0 length, use 5-tuple?

Given you can't share a 5-tuple without using a SCID, that seems like a reasonable approach. If so, it should probably be written down in the QUIC LB draft?

Yes, that's the suggestion, and I think we should write it down somewhere.

I might even advocate for having it clarified in the transport draft, especially if we decide to disallow servers using the client's tuple to distinguish between the connections (#2844).

We have said that long header packets can be identified to which connections they belong, by looking at the 5-tuple. However, for clients to establish multiple QUIC connections in parallel on a single 5-tuple, the server has to identify the connections using 5-tuple || client CID as the key. It's crucial, but not obvious.

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Given we discuss stability of 5-tuple during the handshake in the transport draft, discussing stability of SCID makes sense as well.

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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Jun 25 15:24:09 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1CA11200EF for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 15:24:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TciiUP4vgwvH for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 15:24:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-12.smtp.github.com (out-12.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BDECF1205E0 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 15:24:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 15:24:05 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561501445; bh=OKd3uJS1EPGd/DMZjGTP8lOJTVFY8S81qv/oqqQjQkc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=tciEEH73KaGfhLFeOD6NVqOlm4C41yZdXDhcEFMY6O5gDaWQrDuDPPv8R4GDqHv4b ZFTwg3rSiXBaVq2Zh6yDsPyHFM/LZ2a854asovyeiUxsBC/u/77cth6hyCgnLQGcKS B7b+Wzf3Pf8V2wmS/2nHORDHrSbnLOdEJyhNYpt4= From: martinduke Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Allow longer CIDs (#2749) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d129f0519648_36f63ff8b28cd968120599"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinduke X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 22:24:08 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d129f0519648_36f63ff8b28cd968120599 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinduke commented on this pull request. > -is also 0 bytes in length. Non-zero encoded lengths are increased by 3 to get -the full length of the connection ID; the final value is therefore either 0 or -between 4 and 18 bytes in length (inclusive). For example, an byte with the -value 0xe0 describes a 17 byte Destination Connection ID and a zero byte Source -Connection ID. - -The connection ID lengths are followed by two connection IDs. The connection -ID associated with the recipient of the packet (the Destination Connection ID) -is followed by the connection ID associated with the sender of the packet (the -Source Connection ID). +The next byte contains the length in bytes of the destination Connection ID +(see {{connection-id}}) that follows. The length is encoded as an 8-bit +unsigned integer. This is followed by the destination Connection ID itself, +associated with the receiver of the packet. + +The next two fields are the Connection ID length for the source and the source I am happy to commit this, but it's 'outdated'. 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In draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md:

> -is also 0 bytes in length.  Non-zero encoded lengths are increased by 3 to get
-the full length of the connection ID; the final value is therefore either 0 or
-between 4 and 18 bytes in length (inclusive).  For example, an byte with the
-value 0xe0 describes a 17 byte Destination Connection ID and a zero byte Source
-Connection ID.
-
-The connection ID lengths are followed by two connection IDs.  The connection
-ID associated with the recipient of the packet (the Destination Connection ID)
-is followed by the connection ID associated with the sender of the packet (the
-Source Connection ID).
+The next byte contains the length in bytes of the destination Connection ID
+(see {{connection-id}}) that follows.  The length is encoded as an 8-bit
+unsigned integer. This is followed by the destination Connection ID itself,
+associated with the receiver of the packet.
+
+The next two fields are the Connection ID length for the source and the source

I am happy to commit this, but it's 'outdated'. Can you update?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -187,9 +187,9 @@ QUIC:
 
 QUIC packet:
 
-: A complete processable payload with a packet type, encryption level and
-  packet number. Multiple QUIC packets can be encapsulated in a single UDP
-  datagram.
+: A complete processable unit of QUIC consisting of a header, payload, and
+  authentication tag.  Multiple QUIC packets can be encapsulated in a single

Not all packets have an authentication tag. A single atomic unit is really the only thing we can say.

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That is confusing, but it doesn't mean that the server doesn't pick an ALPN. We do require that it select an ALPN value, and even if it picks one that the client doesn't offer (whether legitimate or not), that doesn't invalidate this text.

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Looks pretty good. Thanks for adding the detail here. > @@ -613,16 +613,27 @@ by the "initial_max_data" transport parameter supplied by the server. A client MUST treat receipt of a NewSessionTicket that contains an "early_data" extension with any other value as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION. +A client that wishes to send early data uses the "early_data" extension in the ```suggestion A client that wishes to send 0-RTT packets uses the "early_data" extension in the ``` > Early data within the TLS connection MUST NOT be used. As it is for other TLS application data, a server MUST treat receiving early data on the TLS connection as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION. -## Rejecting 0-RTT +## Accepting and rejecting 0-RTT Yes, we use title case, as per the RFC style guide. ```suggestion ## Accepting and Rejecting 0-RTT ``` > -A server rejects 0-RTT by rejecting 0-RTT at the TLS layer. This also prevents -QUIC from sending 0-RTT data. A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a -TLS HelloRetryRequest. +A server accepts 0-RTT by sending the EarlyDataIndication in the ServerHello ```suggestion A server accepts 0-RTT by sending an `early_data` extension in the ServerHello ``` > -A server rejects 0-RTT by rejecting 0-RTT at the TLS layer. This also prevents -QUIC from sending 0-RTT data. A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a -TLS HelloRetryRequest. +A server rejects 0-RTT by sending a ServerHello without the EarlyDataIndication. ```suggestion A server rejects 0-RTT by sending a ServerHello without an `early_data` extension. ``` > -A server rejects 0-RTT by rejecting 0-RTT at the TLS layer. This also prevents -QUIC from sending 0-RTT data. A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a -TLS HelloRetryRequest. +A server rejects 0-RTT by sending a ServerHello without the EarlyDataIndication. +A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a TLS HelloRetryRequest. When +rejecting 0-RTT, a server MUST NOT process any 0-RTT packets, even if it is in +possesion of the keys to do so. When 0-RTT was rejected, a client MUST treat "even if it could" might be enough. A server shouldn't even generate those keys, and this phrasing creates an impression that one might. > -A server rejects 0-RTT by rejecting 0-RTT at the TLS layer. This also prevents -QUIC from sending 0-RTT data. A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a -TLS HelloRetryRequest. +A server rejects 0-RTT by sending a ServerHello without the EarlyDataIndication. +A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a TLS HelloRetryRequest. When +rejecting 0-RTT, a server MUST NOT process any 0-RTT packets, even if it is in +possesion of the keys to do so. When 0-RTT was rejected, a client MUST treat +receipt of an acknowledgement for a 0-RTT packet as a connection error of type I'm OK with this MUST. 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@martinthomson commented on this pull request.

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Looks pretty good. Thanks for adding the detail here.

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

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> @@ -613,16 +613,27 @@ by the "initial=
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+A client that wishes to send early data uses the "early_data" =
extension in the=0D
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-A client that wishes to send early data uses =
the "early_data" extension in the=0D
+A client that wishes to send 0-RTT packets uses the "early_data" extensi=
on in the=0D
=0D =0D =0D
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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

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>  Early data within the TLS connection MUST=
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-## Rejecting 0-RTT=0D
+## Accepting and rejecting 0-RTT=0D
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Yes, we use title case, as per the RFC style guide.

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-## Accepting and rejecting 0-RTT=0D
+## Accepting and Rejecting 0-RTT=0D
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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

=0D 
>  =0D
-A server rejects 0-RTT by rejecting 0-RTT at the TLS layer.  This also p=
revents=0D
-QUIC from sending 0-RTT data. A server will always reject 0-RTT if it se=
nds a=0D
-TLS HelloRetryRequest.=0D
+A server accepts 0-RTT by sending the EarlyDataIndication in the ServerH=
ello=0D
=0D =E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D 
-A server accepts 0-RTT by sending the EarlyDa=
taIndication in the ServerHello=0D
+A server accepts 0-RTT by sending an `early_data` extension in the Serve=
rHello=0D
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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

=0D 
>  =0D
-A server rejects 0-RTT by rejecting 0-RTT at the TLS layer.  This also p=
revents=0D
-QUIC from sending 0-RTT data. A server will always reject 0-RTT if it se=
nds a=0D
-TLS HelloRetryRequest.=0D
+A server rejects 0-RTT by sending a ServerHello without the EarlyDataInd=
ication.=0D
=0D =E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D 
-A server rejects 0-RTT by sending a ServerHel=
lo without the EarlyDataIndication.=0D
+A server rejects 0-RTT by sending a ServerHello without an `early_data` =
extension.=0D
=0D =0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

=0D 
>  =0D
-A server rejects 0-RTT by rejecting 0-RTT at the TLS layer.  This also p=
revents=0D
-QUIC from sending 0-RTT data. A server will always reject 0-RTT if it se=
nds a=0D
-TLS HelloRetryRequest.=0D
+A server rejects 0-RTT by sending a ServerHello without the EarlyDataInd=
ication.=0D
+A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a TLS HelloRetryRequest.  =
When=0D
+rejecting 0-RTT, a server MUST NOT process any 0-RTT packets, even if it=
 is in=0D
+possesion of the keys to do so.  When 0-RTT was rejected, a client MUST =
treat=0D
=0D

"even if it could" might be enough. A server shouldn't even generate = those keys, and this phrasing creates an impression that one might.

=0D= =0D
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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

=0D 
>  =0D
-A server rejects 0-RTT by rejecting 0-RTT at the TLS layer.  This also p=
revents=0D
-QUIC from sending 0-RTT data. A server will always reject 0-RTT if it se=
nds a=0D
-TLS HelloRetryRequest.=0D
+A server rejects 0-RTT by sending a ServerHello without the EarlyDataInd=
ication.=0D
+A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a TLS HelloRetryRequest.  =
When=0D
+rejecting 0-RTT, a server MUST NOT process any 0-RTT packets, even if it=
 is in=0D
+possesion of the keys to do so.  When 0-RTT was rejected, a client MUST =
treat=0D
+receipt of an acknowledgement for a 0-RTT packet as a connection error o=
f type=0D
=0D

I'm OK with this MUST. There are ways to manage this that work reason= ably well.

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=0D = ----==_mimepart_5d12a25938216_3ba83fa7f82cd9601165d7-- From nobody Tue Jun 25 16:21:14 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E17C1120123 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 16:21:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cQMAyZ55NJSU for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 16:21:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-17.smtp.github.com (out-17.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C00C6120086 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 16:21:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 16:21:09 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561504869; bh=7DlJJWtC77eGCKXC661kpArxnXH+fvDd5RYHP09O9W4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=EI1P9/vpKKgw4xzIAHR21p2xD58fh3CimlGHdn3rz+LidvRgOeLUmy9c3mXgp4f5/ o+uxoDYetEYGoaZCKz7xHEjDzxWxWy4Mr+bd1e7+r3V5HKTbGJ3gbyoUW8KeGRLixk iYsBvc2o9gwShNxweokWczrhlqfd2Bxe9SzT88hI= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] describe how 0-RTT is accepted and rejected (#2841) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d12ac65ad8d8_7a573fe542ccd9602969c5"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 23:21:13 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d12ac65ad8d8_7a573fe542ccd9602969c5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kazuho commented on this pull request. > -A server rejects 0-RTT by rejecting 0-RTT at the TLS layer. This also prevents -QUIC from sending 0-RTT data. A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a -TLS HelloRetryRequest. +A server rejects 0-RTT by sending a ServerHello without the EarlyDataIndication. +A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a TLS HelloRetryRequest. When +rejecting 0-RTT, a server MUST NOT process any 0-RTT packets, even if it is in +possesion of the keys to do so. When 0-RTT was rejected, a client MUST treat +receipt of an acknowledgement for a 0-RTT packet as a connection error of type @martinthomson I disagree that is is easy to detect. It is true that it is easy for a QUIC stack that uses different packet number spaces to detect this error. This is because all you need to do is remember the largest PN used for the 0-RTT packet, and compare that with ACKs you receive in the application space. OTOH, this is difficult for a QUIC stack that uses unified packet number space. Such stacks would be required to remember all the PNs being used for sending 0-RTT packets. The other question is if we need to require endpoints to posses the 0-RTT keys, even after it detects that 0-RTT has been rejected. Unless we require that, having this MUST becomes much useless. Speaking of text, I think there are four options: a) MUST detect and close b) SHOULD detect and close c) MUST close if detected d) SHOULD close if detected As stated, I oppose to _a_ because it could be hard to detect. I think _c_ is fine. I might agree that _b_, _d_ might not be good, though I wonder what's the necessity to have something different from the general rule of handling ACKs carrying invalid PNs. Maybe the general rule needs to be changed to MUST. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2841#discussion_r297431485 ----==_mimepart_5d12ac65ad8d8_7a573fe542ccd9602969c5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@kazuho commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>  
-A server rejects 0-RTT by rejecting 0-RTT at the TLS layer.  This also prevents
-QUIC from sending 0-RTT data. A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a
-TLS HelloRetryRequest.
+A server rejects 0-RTT by sending a ServerHello without the EarlyDataIndication.
+A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a TLS HelloRetryRequest.  When
+rejecting 0-RTT, a server MUST NOT process any 0-RTT packets, even if it is in
+possesion of the keys to do so.  When 0-RTT was rejected, a client MUST treat
+receipt of an acknowledgement for a 0-RTT packet as a connection error of type

@martinthomson I disagree that is is easy to detect.

It is true that it is easy for a QUIC stack that uses different packet number spaces to detect this error. This is because all you need to do is remember the largest PN used for the 0-RTT packet, and compare that with ACKs you receive in the application space.

OTOH, this is difficult for a QUIC stack that uses unified packet number space. Such stacks would be required to remember all the PNs being used for sending 0-RTT packets.

The other question is if we need to require endpoints to posses the 0-RTT keys, even after it detects that 0-RTT has been rejected. Unless we require that, having this MUST becomes much useless.

Speaking of text, I think there are four options:
a) MUST detect and close
b) SHOULD detect and close
c) MUST close if detected
d) SHOULD close if detected

As stated, I oppose to a because it could be hard to detect. I think c is fine. I might agree that b, d might not be good, though I wonder what's the necessity to have something different from the general rule of handling ACKs carrying invalid PNs. Maybe the general rule needs to be changed to MUST.

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Changing my position to "request changes" due to the reasons stated in #2841 (comment).

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Clients could potentially reference closed streams long after the server had discarded state, leading to disparate views of the prioritization the client had attempted to express. -In HTTP/3, a number of placeholders are explicitly permitted by the server using -the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` setting. Because the server commits to -maintaining these placeholders in the prioritization tree, clients can use them -with confidence that the server will not have discarded the state. Clients MUST -NOT send the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` setting; receipt of this setting by a -server MUST be treated as a connection error of type +In HTTP/3, by using the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` setting, the server +advertises the number of client-controlled placeholders for which it is +committing to maintain state. Client-controlled placeholders are given their +own number space that spans between zero and 2^62-1. Clients can use the +client-controlled placeholders with an ID less than the value of this setting +with the confidence that the server will not have discarded the state. The +orphan placeholder cannot be prioritized or referenced by the client. + +Servers are RECOMMENDED to support at least 32 placeholders. Those that do not ```suggestion Servers SHOULD support at least 32 placeholders. Those that do not ``` > @@ -633,18 +633,22 @@ tree could be discarded safely. Clients could potentially reference closed streams long after the server had discarded state, leading to disparate views of the prioritization the client had attempted to express. -In HTTP/3, a number of placeholders are explicitly permitted by the server using -the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` setting. Because the server commits to -maintaining these placeholders in the prioritization tree, clients can use them -with confidence that the server will not have discarded the state. Clients MUST -NOT send the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` setting; receipt of this setting by a -server MUST be treated as a connection error of type +In HTTP/3, by using the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` setting, the server +advertises the number of client-controlled placeholders for which it is +committing to maintain state. Client-controlled placeholders are given their +own number space that spans between zero and 2^62-1. Clients can use the +client-controlled placeholders with an ID less than the value of this setting +with the confidence that the server will not have discarded the state. The ```suggestion with the confidence that the server will discarded associated state. The ``` Question, if we have PlaceholderN->RequestN->root in a tree and RequestN has long since been discarded; is this considered "discarding the state"? > -the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` setting. Because the server commits to -maintaining these placeholders in the prioritization tree, clients can use them -with confidence that the server will not have discarded the state. Clients MUST -NOT send the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` setting; receipt of this setting by a -server MUST be treated as a connection error of type +In HTTP/3, by using the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` setting, the server +advertises the number of client-controlled placeholders for which it is +committing to maintain state. Client-controlled placeholders are given their +own number space that spans between zero and 2^62-1. Clients can use the +client-controlled placeholders with an ID less than the value of this setting +with the confidence that the server will not have discarded the state. The +orphan placeholder cannot be prioritized or referenced by the client. + +Servers are RECOMMENDED to support at least 32 placeholders. Those that do not +SHOULD refrain from supporting placeholders at all, setting +`SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` to zero. I find this weird. I would strike the second sentence entirely and consider replacing it with justification for 32. > @@ -1224,9 +1228,17 @@ The following situations are examples of invalid PRIORITY frames: A PRIORITY frame with Empty bits not set to zero MAY be treated as a connection error of type HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME. -A PRIORITY frame that references a non-existent Push ID, a Placeholder ID -greater than the server's limit, or a Stream ID the client is not yet permitted -to open MUST be treated as a connection error of type HTTP_LIMIT_EXCEEDED. +A PRIORITY frame that references a non-existent Push ID or a Stream ID the +client is not yet permitted to open MUST be treated as a connection error of +type HTTP_LIMIT_EXCEEDED. + +A PRIORITY frame MAY reference a Placeholder ID that is equal to or greater than +the server's advertised value of the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` settings. When +receiving a PRIORITY frame with its prioritized element set to such a +placeholder, the server SHOULD discard the frame without making any change to ```suggestion placeholder, the server MAY discard the frame without making any change to ``` Note that the setting is loosely defined, as is the size of the priority tree. A server might allow placeholders above its limit. > @@ -1224,9 +1228,17 @@ The following situations are examples of invalid PRIORITY frames: A PRIORITY frame with Empty bits not set to zero MAY be treated as a connection error of type HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME. -A PRIORITY frame that references a non-existent Push ID, a Placeholder ID -greater than the server's limit, or a Stream ID the client is not yet permitted -to open MUST be treated as a connection error of type HTTP_LIMIT_EXCEEDED. +A PRIORITY frame that references a non-existent Push ID or a Stream ID the +client is not yet permitted to open MUST be treated as a connection error of +type HTTP_LIMIT_EXCEEDED. + +A PRIORITY frame MAY reference a Placeholder ID that is equal to or greater than +the server's advertised value of the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` settings. When +receiving a PRIORITY frame with its prioritized element set to such a +placeholder, the server SHOULD discard the frame without making any change to +the priority tree. When receiving a PRIORITY frame with its element dependency +set to such a placeholder, the server SHOULD update the priority tree with the ```suggestion set to a discarded placeholder, the server SHOULD update the priority tree with the ``` Note that this isn't any different than referring to a long-expired request. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2761#pullrequestreview-254323999 ----==_mimepart_5d12b3bfa6051_4b133fc7e6acd9689916c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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=0D = ----==_mimepart_5d12b3bfa6051_4b133fc7e6acd9689916c-- From nobody Tue Jun 25 16:55:07 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B04B7120125 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 16:55:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kDNb_XCCm4Kk for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 16:55:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EFF80120139 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 16:55:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 16:55:03 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561506904; bh=RYGUiEhWMUaMH7hj+mI62wviwIniBVNBH17FLmArvgk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Mhc3I+pH27EZPhonRwSZ1Nl9Y3vFNtn5M4yD6MSkbwOAvK1GmEZscvKDTuE0NP1MG ub3FfUaj9u0GKYhoC3GZlP1oZAF6I+daJSvpGblN6LBMgcYgBzulwjaLp66jIE7gWz xHeZ4IMfcPLU3NNByC2ApZwKN0vE1dhKXXhB761s= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Handling RESET_STREAM and STOP_SENDING with invalid error codes (#2816) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d12b457ed3a6_ac23f99b02cd95c774ca"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 23:55:07 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d12b457ed3a6_ac23f99b02cd95c774ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree with @MikeBishop. The error code doesn't matter. What matters is how you handle it. Error codes with no specific handling are fine; error codes with special handling can be ignored. The question of what to do with critical streams is separable. Don't make things worse by coupling the two concepts. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2816#issuecomment-505664349 ----==_mimepart_5d12b457ed3a6_ac23f99b02cd95c774ca Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I agree with @MikeBishop. The error code doesn't matter. What matters is how you handle it. Error codes with no specific handling are fine; error codes with special handling can be ignored.

The question of what to do with critical streams is separable. Don't make things worse by coupling the two concepts.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1903,9 +1901,9 @@ The entries in the following table are registered by this document.
 | ----------------------------------- | ---------- | ---------------------------------------- | ---------------------- |
 | HTTP_NO_ERROR                       | 0x0000     | No error                                 | {{http-error-codes}}   |
 | HTTP_WRONG_SETTING_DIRECTION        | 0x0001     | Setting sent in wrong direction          | {{http-error-codes}}   |
-| HTTP_PUSH_REFUSED                   | 0x0002     | Client refused pushed content            | {{http-error-codes}}   |
+| Reserved                            | 0x0002     | N/A                                      | N/A                    |

My sense is that we want to do a final cleanup for reserved error codes. We might reserve some for keeping the relationship with RFC 7540 clean, but I don't think that a renumbering is a bad idea after all this work on fixing errors completes.

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@LPardue commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1903,9 +1901,9 @@ The entries in the following table are registered by this document.
 | ----------------------------------- | ---------- | ---------------------------------------- | ---------------------- |
 | HTTP_NO_ERROR                       | 0x0000     | No error                                 | {{http-error-codes}}   |
 | HTTP_WRONG_SETTING_DIRECTION        | 0x0001     | Setting sent in wrong direction          | {{http-error-codes}}   |
-| HTTP_PUSH_REFUSED                   | 0x0002     | Client refused pushed content            | {{http-error-codes}}   |
+| Reserved                            | 0x0002     | N/A                                      | N/A                    |

Definitely. Not many good reasons exist to reserve codes for the shipped RFC.

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I think that an editorial PR would be great. This is advice that doesn't change interoperability.

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----==_mimepart_5d12b63a975fd_55f23f8409ccd96425051f-- From nobody Tue Jun 25 17:06:46 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A0CB120124 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 17:06:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vEl_FCDAH6s9 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 17:06:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-17.smtp.github.com (out-17.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E108712011E for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 17:06:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 17:06:41 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561507601; bh=XpHqZO93R+dV2VSQLHEOhrW1F8ldm7q5QdmNXJJlhog=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=k1DEPd2DJToc9VbJmgLbm9X4CYUMYatVilHRcOO3knzniFiPkdsQZ4IrB24yXyZuQ MAH3TBlZ8AX/9bGryMlS40JNTfgIgBnz12i+1PwWRay3BN+VkjSFPI006qeFgUhQko XE2jcYRf8iwRcVTjUA7z4OXyzrXQT3qGNTOiDZ1Q= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make exceeding stream limits a connection error (#2826) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d12b711c2783_390b3fbde34cd96c2842a2"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2019 00:06:44 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d12b711c2783_390b3fbde34cd96c2842a2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm going to recommend calling this editorial on the basis that it reconciles this text with another MUST-level requirement. But I will leave the issue open for the chairs to make a design/editorial assessment and any resulting consensus call. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2826#issuecomment-505666495 ----==_mimepart_5d12b711c2783_390b3fbde34cd96c2842a2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I'm going to recommend calling this editorial on the basis that it reconciles this text with another MUST-level requirement. But I will leave the issue open for the chairs to make a design/editorial assessment and any resulting consensus call.

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Closed #2825 via #2826.

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Reopened #2825.

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----==_mimepart_5d12b7315f9b1_4f383ffb8dccd9681341c1-- From nobody Tue Jun 25 17:38:03 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F7EE120141 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 17:38:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.595 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.595 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VOd0Tn4vGEnD for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 17:37:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47A7A1200D8 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 17:37:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 17:37:58 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561509478; bh=mH4yKzLQ6sJe3EF4xopPnuQFJ4sVpRZbXPWE1siDB/w=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Q3H5+ZEbhTgVEIN7ztDCZuilr6In3/Ae/FFXrVXe/q27N0xZsVtZnmrjB9XMqB3Zj wLQUfPRXr/FOryg2BZRpif1SerQZ1kXSOsberPSy8i0vnAOA66msUMOJfkWk7P0Caj iPUQCexspy16vIy3kBH86RhSpNveZ8GCwzh5lewY= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove stale text that forbids the use of TLS records carrying early data (#2845) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d12be661a593_13ee3f85ed0cd96c1551c9"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2019 00:38:01 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d12be661a593_13ee3f85ed0cd96c1551c9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As of -12, TLS records are not used in QUIC (TLS handshake messages are directly transmitted instead), and therefore it is impossible in QUIC to transmit early data using the machinery provided by TLS. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2845 -- Commit Summary -- * Remove stale text that forbids the use of TLS records carrying early data. As -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md (4) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2845.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2845.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2845 ----==_mimepart_5d12be661a593_13ee3f85ed0cd96c1551c9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

As of -12, TLS records are not used in QUIC (TLS handshake messages are directly transmitted instead), and therefore it is impossible in QUIC to transmit early data using the machinery provided by TLS.

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@kazuho commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -613,16 +613,27 @@ by the "initial_max_data" transport parameter supplied by the server.  A client
 MUST treat receipt of a NewSessionTicket that contains an "early_data" extension
 with any other value as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.
 
+A client that wishes to send early data uses the "early_data" extension in the
+ClientHello message of a subsequent handshake (see Section 4.10.2 of
+{{!TLS13}}). It then sends the application data in 0-RTT packets.
+
 Early data within the TLS connection MUST NOT be used.  As it is for other TLS
 application data, a server MUST treat receiving early data on the TLS connection

Makes sense. Filed PR #2845.

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>  
-A server rejects 0-RTT by rejecting 0-RTT at the TLS layer.  This also prevents
-QUIC from sending 0-RTT data. A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a
-TLS HelloRetryRequest.
+A server rejects 0-RTT by sending a ServerHello without the EarlyDataIndication.
+A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a TLS HelloRetryRequest.  When
+rejecting 0-RTT, a server MUST NOT process any 0-RTT packets, even if it is in
+possesion of the keys to do so.  When 0-RTT was rejected, a client MUST treat
+receipt of an acknowledgement for a 0-RTT packet as a connection error of type

@kazuho There's no such thing as a unified PN space. QUIC has 3 packet number spaces, and there's no way to opt out of that. If a QUIC implementation decides to do weird things with the packet numbers (i.e. if it doesn't start every PN space from 0, as the spec suggests), it shouldn't be surprised to run into additional complexity...

That being said, as you point out in #2841 (comment), we're using a SHOULD elsewhere, so for consistency I changed it to a SHOULD here as well. I don't think that we need a "if it is able to detect the condition" sub-clause here, as the SHOULD already allows you to skip the check, if your implementation is not able to perform it.

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I'm going so recommend that this be triaged as a design issue, even if it might seem trivial. The prohibition in #2829 is the right response.

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  • 32a7bb0 rejecting 0-RTT means not generating 0-RTT keys

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----==_mimepart_5d12c5b873f4a_769c3f9f240cd96c1491a8-- From nobody Tue Jun 25 18:09:37 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D82F3120123 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 18:09:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qNiJihENG3xh for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 18:09:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2BEAF1200D8 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 18:09:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 18:09:31 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561511371; bh=b5dNEuwWAb6/rqq6NTrYHkZ5wCZ/fMEBbxjvfXA0Iwc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=pYM4FroUBNp8oSURUWMOnpo9lKsKCuDw/gTWRwjY892tGYbLNeB3vtDBzOXw1zSMw qVi2BtiR6Dld1Cswaxxcnj6RpnIMGVyFNakGf3VJ47YZN0VFqj/pN8peEnSHLPSIDO uTRNx5IT/ZPp9IzuOsbgLmeGNRwYE0dYxjd1qB/c= From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] describe how 0-RTT is accepted and rejected (#2841) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d12c5cb6dcd9_44de3f82ebacd96c1191ae"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2019 01:09:35 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d12c5cb6dcd9_44de3f82ebacd96c1191ae Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit marten-seemann commented on this pull request. > -A server rejects 0-RTT by rejecting 0-RTT at the TLS layer. This also prevents -QUIC from sending 0-RTT data. A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a -TLS HelloRetryRequest. +A server rejects 0-RTT by sending a ServerHello without the EarlyDataIndication. +A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a TLS HelloRetryRequest. When +rejecting 0-RTT, a server MUST NOT process any 0-RTT packets, even if it is in +possesion of the keys to do so. When 0-RTT was rejected, a client MUST treat Makes sense. Updated the PR. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2841#discussion_r297450644 ----==_mimepart_5d12c5cb6dcd9_44de3f82ebacd96c1191ae Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>  
-A server rejects 0-RTT by rejecting 0-RTT at the TLS layer.  This also prevents
-QUIC from sending 0-RTT data. A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a
-TLS HelloRetryRequest.
+A server rejects 0-RTT by sending a ServerHello without the EarlyDataIndication.
+A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a TLS HelloRetryRequest.  When
+rejecting 0-RTT, a server MUST NOT process any 0-RTT packets, even if it is in
+possesion of the keys to do so.  When 0-RTT was rejected, a client MUST treat

Makes sense. Updated the PR.

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@huitema I think you may have misunderstood what I meant. If the web server uses zero-length CIDs on port 443, then it will not be able to demultiplex incoming short packets from multiple connections that transit through the proxy. So we cannot build that kind of proxy if servers like this exist.

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I think that David is right about this. We have just one transport parameter that could use this right now, so anything we do is strictly worse. Also, TLS haven't really settled any of the details of the flags proposal. We can avoid doing the same work in parallel, so to avoid creating similar but confusing mechanisms, so we should.

My proposal: quicv2.

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Yes. Right now we have 3, though not exactly as stated. It is

The initial keys are derived from the client's first DCID, unless the server sends a Retry packet, after which the initial keys are re-derived from the DCID in the client's Initial packet(s).

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This also prevents -QUIC from sending 0-RTT data. A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a -TLS HelloRetryRequest. +A server rejects 0-RTT by sending a ServerHello without the EarlyDataIndication. +A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a TLS HelloRetryRequest. When +rejecting 0-RTT, a server MUST NOT process any 0-RTT packets, even if it is in +possesion of the keys to do so. When 0-RTT was rejected, a client MUST treat +receipt of an acknowledgement for a 0-RTT packet as a connection error of type @marten-seemann The spec having different packet number spaces does not necessarily mean that every QUIC stack should be having different PN counters for each number space for the packets it sends. It is entirely plausible for a QUIC stack to use just one packet number space for the packets it sends. That said, ... > as you point out in https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2841#discussion_r297128544, we're using a SHOULD elsewhere, so for consistency I changed it to a SHOULD here as well. Thank you for the change. I appreciate it. > I don't think that we need a "if it is able to detect the condition" sub-clause here, as the SHOULD already allows you to skip the check, if your implementation is not able to perform it. IIRC, the sub-clause "if it is able to detect the condition" was added intentionally to the general rule, because people were concerned about the text being interpreted as to recommend having a way to detect such errors. I think the text proposed in this PR has the same problem, and my preference is to address it in the same manner. I think that one path forward might be to, instead of clarifying the action here, incorporate the handling of acknowledgements of 0-RTT packets into the provision of 13.1.1. I mean, changing > An endpoint SHOULD treat receipt of an acknowledgment for a packet it did not send as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION, if it is able to detect the condition. to something like: > An endpoint SHOULD treat receipt of an acknowledgment for a packet that the server would not have processed as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION, if it is able to detect the condition. This includes receiving an ACK frame containing a packet number that the endpoint has not sent, as well as acknowledgements for 0-RTT packets when the server has rejected the use of 0-RTT. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2841#discussion_r297452432 ----==_mimepart_5d12c8a3845ef_7a763faa17acd96418362 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>  
-A server rejects 0-RTT by rejecting 0-RTT at the TLS layer.  This also prevents
-QUIC from sending 0-RTT data. A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a
-TLS HelloRetryRequest.
+A server rejects 0-RTT by sending a ServerHello without the EarlyDataIndication.
+A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a TLS HelloRetryRequest.  When
+rejecting 0-RTT, a server MUST NOT process any 0-RTT packets, even if it is in
+possesion of the keys to do so.  When 0-RTT was rejected, a client MUST treat
+receipt of an acknowledgement for a 0-RTT packet as a connection error of type

@marten-seemann The spec having different packet number spaces does not necessarily mean that every QUIC stack should be having different PN counters for each number space for the packets it sends. It is entirely plausible for a QUIC stack to use just one packet number space for the packets it sends.

That said, ...

as you point out in #2841 (comment), we're using a SHOULD elsewhere, so for consistency I changed it to a SHOULD here as well.

Thank you for the change. I appreciate it.

I don't think that we need a "if it is able to detect the condition" sub-clause here, as the SHOULD already allows you to skip the check, if your implementation is not able to perform it.

IIRC, the sub-clause "if it is able to detect the condition" was added intentionally to the general rule, because people were concerned about the text being interpreted as to recommend having a way to detect such errors. I think the text proposed in this PR has the same problem, and my preference is to address it in the same manner.

I think that one path forward might be to, instead of clarifying the action here, incorporate the handling of acknowledgements of 0-RTT packets into the provision of 13.1.1.

I mean, changing

An endpoint SHOULD treat receipt of an acknowledgment for a packet it did not send as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION, if it is able to detect the condition.

to something like:

An endpoint SHOULD treat receipt of an acknowledgment for a packet that the server would not have processed as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION, if it is able to detect the condition. This includes receiving an ACK frame containing a packet number that the endpoint has not sent, as well as acknowledgements for 0-RTT packets when the server has rejected the use of 0-RTT.

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>  
-A server rejects 0-RTT by rejecting 0-RTT at the TLS layer.  This also prevents
-QUIC from sending 0-RTT data. A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a
-TLS HelloRetryRequest.
+A server rejects 0-RTT by sending a ServerHello without the EarlyDataIndication.
+A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a TLS HelloRetryRequest.  When
+rejecting 0-RTT, a server MUST NOT process any 0-RTT packets, even if it is in
+possesion of the keys to do so.  When 0-RTT was rejected, a client MUST treat
+receipt of an acknowledgement for a 0-RTT packet as a connection error of type

@kazuho

The spec having different packet number spaces does not necessarily mean that every QUIC stack should be having different PN counters for each number space for the packets it sends. It is entirely plausible for a QUIC stack to use just one packet number space for the packets it sends.

The spec is actually quite clear about this (https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#rfc.section.12.3)

Packet numbers in each space start at packet number 0.

Now I agree that it's possible to ignore this sentence and start the packet number wherever you want (if you're willing to tolerate the loss recovery response this provokes, i.e. an early ACK because of detected reordering). However, I don't think we need to modify the spec because of self-inflicted complexities of non-compliant implementations.

IIRC, the sub-clause "if it is able to detect the condition" was added intentionally to the general rule, because people were concerned about the text being interpreted as to recommend having a way to detect such errors.

I think we added this text because for 1-RTT packets, you clear out old ACK ranges from time to time. When receiving an ACK for a very old packet you'd then not be able to check if you actually sent this packet, because you already removed the tracking state.

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@kazuho commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>  
-A server rejects 0-RTT by rejecting 0-RTT at the TLS layer.  This also prevents
-QUIC from sending 0-RTT data. A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a
-TLS HelloRetryRequest.
+A server rejects 0-RTT by sending a ServerHello without the EarlyDataIndication.
+A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a TLS HelloRetryRequest.  When
+rejecting 0-RTT, a server MUST NOT process any 0-RTT packets, even if it is in
+possesion of the keys to do so.  When 0-RTT was rejected, a client MUST treat
+receipt of an acknowledgement for a 0-RTT packet as a connection error of type

@marten-seemann Contrary to what you state, the spec is clear about skipping PN 0 (or any packet number in a packet number space) is a permitted behavior. Quoting from section 21.3, an endpoint MAY skip packet numbers when sending packets to detect this behavior.

Using unified packet number space on the send side is precisely an act of "skipping packet numbers when sending packets," skipping those that have been used in another packet number space.

IIRC, the sub-clause "if it is able to detect the condition" was added intentionally to the general rule, because people were concerned about the text being interpreted as to recommend having a way to detect such errors.
I think we added this text because for 1-RTT packets, you clear out old ACK ranges from time to time. When receiving an ACK for a very old packet you'd then not be able to check if you actually sent this packet, because you already removed the tracking state.

I'm not sure if I agree with the assumption, but granted that it is true, I think it would be an argument for having the same sub-clause for 0-RTT packets as well. ACK ranges are cleared out from time to time. Then, why do we need to handle ranges for 0-RTT packets specially, only when the server rejects 0-RTT?

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>  
-A server rejects 0-RTT by rejecting 0-RTT at the TLS layer.  This also prevents
-QUIC from sending 0-RTT data. A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a
-TLS HelloRetryRequest.
+A server rejects 0-RTT by sending a ServerHello without the EarlyDataIndication.
+A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a TLS HelloRetryRequest.  When
+rejecting 0-RTT, a server MUST NOT process any 0-RTT packets, even if it is in
+possesion of the keys to do so.  When 0-RTT was rejected, a client MUST treat
+receipt of an acknowledgement for a 0-RTT packet as a connection error of type

@kazuho Of course you can skip packet numbers, since this is indistinguishable from packet loss.
The text you're quoting is about the optimistic ACK attack, and describes a mechanism how you skip a single packet number from time to time in order to detect this attack. It is not intended to start a packet number space at a much higher packet number. Furthermore, if I understand your point here correctly, what you actually want to do is not to perform the check if a skipped packet number is acknowledged, so you really can't use this text as a justification...

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----==_mimepart_5d12d41a9fda2_3b4c3f87444cd9609082a-- From nobody Tue Jun 25 19:15:19 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35E371201CE for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 19:15:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.595 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.595 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XL4pFb3fkJfL for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 19:15:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7688C1201C6 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 19:15:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 19:15:13 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561515313; bh=W/u550Ljbf/ZDZdpN910HNpM2bBo9sYfe/MxealhKIk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=VmUZbkiiDTORny+8z+WGsfmE7I2F61RvQaW+bM4YzpRSWL+9If8Q6rfhSgsoeBaOo vxxFk76CwZqnrh8/843Z6twRS/iLTNzi9BsZ0W2YnrnaSxdl1ZyrhFJQtbuph9txiJ S8jqHaZQaxIINr4m/sV4XRA+fUUlBjlKZimiGiQU= From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] fix overspecific coalescing requirement for Initials (#2846) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d12d531a362d_3b9f3fe4b64cd968161734"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2019 02:15:17 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d12d531a362d_3b9f3fe4b64cd968161734 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It doesn't matter what an Initial is coalesced with. It could be a 0-RTT packet, it could be an (invalid) Handshake packet, or the bytes after the Initial packet could be completely random. The only thing that matters is that the resulting UDP datagram has at least 1200 bytes. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2846 -- Commit Summary -- * it doesn't matter what an Initial is coalesced with -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (10) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2846.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2846.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2846 ----==_mimepart_5d12d531a362d_3b9f3fe4b64cd968161734 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

It doesn't matter what an Initial is coalesced with. It could be a 0-RTT packet, it could be an (invalid) Handshake packet, or the bytes after the Initial packet could be completely random. The only thing that matters is that the resulting UDP datagram has at least 1200 bytes.

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  • it doesn't matter what an Initial is coalesced with

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@kazuho commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>  
-A server rejects 0-RTT by rejecting 0-RTT at the TLS layer.  This also prevents
-QUIC from sending 0-RTT data. A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a
-TLS HelloRetryRequest.
+A server rejects 0-RTT by sending a ServerHello without the EarlyDataIndication.
+A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a TLS HelloRetryRequest.  When
+rejecting 0-RTT, a server MUST NOT process any 0-RTT packets, even if it is in
+possesion of the keys to do so.  When 0-RTT was rejected, a client MUST treat
+receipt of an acknowledgement for a 0-RTT packet as a connection error of type

Using unified packet number space on the send side is an easy way of detecting an optimistic ACK attack. Because all you need is a single ACK map (instead of ACK map per every packen number space), that allows each of the entry to have the epochs associated. Optimistic ACK is detected when you receive an ACK in an unexpected epoch.

Furthermore, if I understand your point here correctly, what you actually want to do is not to perform the check if a skipped packet number is acknowledged, so you really can't use this text as a justification...

I think you are missing the fact that there are two topics being discussed in parallel. One is if use of unified packet number space is OK. That relates to if the detection could be MUST. For that, we are in agreement that it can be SHOULD. Therefore, I think it's getting off-topic.

The other discussion is if we need the "if detected" sub-clause. I do not think I am using the existence of QUIC stacks using unified packet number space on the send side as a justification to argue for having the sub-clause.

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@marten-seemann commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>  
-A server rejects 0-RTT by rejecting 0-RTT at the TLS layer.  This also prevents
-QUIC from sending 0-RTT data. A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a
-TLS HelloRetryRequest.
+A server rejects 0-RTT by sending a ServerHello without the EarlyDataIndication.
+A server will always reject 0-RTT if it sends a TLS HelloRetryRequest.  When
+rejecting 0-RTT, a server MUST NOT process any 0-RTT packets, even if it is in
+possesion of the keys to do so.  When 0-RTT was rejected, a client MUST treat
+receipt of an acknowledgement for a 0-RTT packet as a connection error of type

I think the suggestion you made in #2841 (comment) is a good one. I updated the PR.

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Thank you for the changes. Looks good to me modulo the points below.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>  Early data within the TLS connection MUST NOT be used.  As it is for other TLS
 application data, a server MUST treat receiving early data on the TLS connection
 as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.
 
 
-## Rejecting 0-RTT
+## Accepting and Rejecting 0-RTT
+
+A server accepts 0-RTT by sending an early_data extension in the ServerHello

s/ServerHello/EncryptedExtensions/

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>  Early data within the TLS connection MUST NOT be used.  As it is for other TLS
 application data, a server MUST treat receiving early data on the TLS connection
 as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.
 
 
-## Rejecting 0-RTT
+## Accepting and Rejecting 0-RTT
+
+A server accepts 0-RTT by sending an early_data extension in the ServerHello
+(see Section 4.10.2 of {{!TLS13}}).  The server then processes and acknowledges

s/4.10.2/4.2.10/

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2918,7 +2918,9 @@ received packets in preference to packets received in the past.
 
 An endpoint SHOULD treat receipt of an acknowledgment for a packet it did not
 send as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION, if it is able to detect

s/for a packet it did not send/for a packet that the server would not have processed/

The change is necessary because 0-RTT packets are sent (but not expected to be processed).

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@DavidSchinazi Got it, OK. Server should not assume that client connections would always come from different 5 tuples, because in the case of proxies they will not. For example, two clients coming through the same proxy will appear to come from the same IP and port.

This is not a problem for clients, because clients can decide whether or not to send several outgoing connections through the same port.

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I think that the one word fix is fine. It needs to be about things that the recipient controls. I would be reluctant to say more though. This isn't that important a point.

Note that clients are prevented from reusing a source port if the server chooses a zero-length connection ID, but I think that's fine.

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@marten-seemann commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>  Early data within the TLS connection MUST NOT be used.  As it is for other TLS
 application data, a server MUST treat receiving early data on the TLS connection
 as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.
 
 
-## Rejecting 0-RTT
+## Accepting and Rejecting 0-RTT
+
+A server accepts 0-RTT by sending an early_data extension in the ServerHello
+(see Section 4.10.2 of {{!TLS13}}).  The server then processes and acknowledges

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>  Early data within the TLS connection MUST NOT be used.  As it is for other TLS
 application data, a server MUST treat receiving early data on the TLS connection
 as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.
 
 
-## Rejecting 0-RTT
+## Accepting and Rejecting 0-RTT
+
+A server accepts 0-RTT by sending an early_data extension in the ServerHello

Fixed.

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----==_mimepart_5d12e55b75139_6ed43fdb8b4cd960240455-- From nobody Tue Jun 25 20:24:47 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 593C4120623 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 20:24:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OcMaw6s32y6M for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 20:24:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DAACC120122 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 20:24:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 20:24:43 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561519483; bh=0bAAW4/CKRc73q8eSBWWz2KDPoXmTwdTFf1c6cWrcgM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=YEbMBl2F5p+tQOEmWVDZowz2sGdbMJrFOywTKnAcnuvHMXQbiV5yTB2Cn1xCRvxXY R3Ue99Etn5PjuHKYtXEc/cVqWOkTUqtm908TF805V67PT8izeflgnCsHwMGNIq/FR8 MGkiQqyWo4kg0RxYMmf/Ii98Yc6TqzpKUjijDlEE= From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] describe how 0-RTT is accepted and rejected (#2841) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d12e57b75e7d_47fe3ff5350cd9645194fb"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2019 03:24:46 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d12e57b75e7d_47fe3ff5350cd9645194fb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit marten-seemann commented on this pull request. > @@ -2918,7 +2918,9 @@ received packets in preference to packets received in the past. An endpoint SHOULD treat receipt of an acknowledgment for a packet it did not send as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION, if it is able to detect This applies in both directions though. Maybe we shouldn't update the transport doc at all? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2841#discussion_r297470929 ----==_mimepart_5d12e57b75e7d_47fe3ff5350cd9645194fb Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2918,7 +2918,9 @@ received packets in preference to packets received in the past.
 
 An endpoint SHOULD treat receipt of an acknowledgment for a packet it did not
 send as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION, if it is able to detect

This applies in both directions though. Maybe we shouldn't update the transport doc at all?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2918,7 +2918,9 @@ received packets in preference to packets received in the past.
 
 An endpoint SHOULD treat receipt of an acknowledgment for a packet it did not
 send as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION, if it is able to detect

My bad, I think the replacement should be "for a packet that the peer would not have processed".

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A followup for an old discussion that never landed.

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Some tweaks, but this is good. > @@ -2859,13 +2859,16 @@ valid frames? --> ### Sending ACK Frames -An endpoint MUST NOT send more than one packet containing only an ACK frame per -received packet that contains frames other than ACK and PADDING frames. -An endpoint MUST NOT send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response -to a packet containing only ACK or PADDING frames, even if there are packet -gaps which precede the received packet. This prevents an indefinite feedback -loop of ACKs. The endpoint MUST however acknowledge packets containing only -ACK or PADDING frames when sending ACK frames in response to other packets. +Packets containing only ACK frames are not congestion controlled, so there are Is this section missing an intro? > An endpoint sends an ACK frame to indicate that it has received and processed packets. Sending ACK frames is the primary mechanism for advancing the state of a connection. Happy to take this to another issue... > @@ -2859,13 +2859,16 @@ valid frames? --> ### Sending ACK Frames -An endpoint MUST NOT send more than one packet containing only an ACK frame per -received packet that contains frames other than ACK and PADDING frames. -An endpoint MUST NOT send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response -to a packet containing only ACK or PADDING frames, even if there are packet -gaps which precede the received packet. This prevents an indefinite feedback -loop of ACKs. The endpoint MUST however acknowledge packets containing only -ACK or PADDING frames when sending ACK frames in response to other packets. +Packets containing only ACK frames are not congestion controlled, so there are +limits on how frequently they can be sent. An endpoint MUST NOT send more than +one packet containing only an ACK frame per received ACK-eliciting packet +(one containing frames other than ACK and/or PADDING). An endpoint MUST NOT +send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response to a non-ACK-eliciting +packet (one containing only ACK and/or PADDING frames), even if there are +packet gaps which precede the received packet. This prevents an indefinite ```suggestion packet gaps which precede the received packet. Limiting the sending of ACK frames avoids creating an indefinite feedback loop of acknowledgements, which could prevent the connection from ever becoming idle. ``` Apologies for the multi-line suggestion. > @@ -2883,16 +2886,21 @@ needing acknowledgement are received. The sender can use the receiver's Strategies and implications of the frequency of generating acknowledgments are discussed in more detail in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}. +An endpoint that is only sending acknowledgements will not receive +acknowledgments from its peer unless those acknowledgements are included in +packets with ACK-eliciting frames. A sender SHOULD bundle ACK frames with +other frames when possible. Maybe instead: > Though it sending an ACK frame in every packet can be inefficient, a sender SHOULD send ACK frames in ACK-eliciting packets that it sends. Which leads to a difficult question: how often do you send an ACK frame when you aren't receiving ACK-eliciting packets? We've agreed to make it possible to use the specs to build an "decently performant" stack. Is this a point that isn't important, or is there a need for specific advice? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2794#pullrequestreview-254370629 ----==_mimepart_5d12eea65059e_1ab63ff79facd95c6109b7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2019 04:04:31 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: dc9d7ebdb2f14409a4a547bd0605f2b56814f050 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/dc9d7ebdb2f14409a4a547bd0605f2b56814f050 Author: Kazuho Oku Date: 2019-06-26 (Wed, 26 Jun 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Remove stale text that forbids the use of TLS records carrying early data. As of -12, TLS records are not used in QUIC (TLS handshake messages are directly transmitted instead), and therefore it is impossible in QUIC to transmit early data using the mechinery provided by TLS. Commit: 429c21970577028a46aed47c41f57e6ba0c37260 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/429c21970577028a46aed47c41f57e6ba0c37260 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-06-25 (Tue, 25 Jun 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #2845 from kazuho/kazuho/early-data-records-arnt-available Remove stale text that forbids the use of TLS records carrying early data Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/49065dba4cd6...429c21970577 From nobody Tue Jun 25 21:04:39 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7C94120226 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 21:04:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ExMkdwVzERhW for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 21:04:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-18.smtp.github.com (out-18.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 697841200DF for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2019 21:04:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 21:04:33 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561521874; bh=TEGfXzOaeoqYojJVmA8PKgSKNuYlhkkfWQHac84EX8U=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=LOYS3UhUPq1u301e+o+A02xTaynpj+V1tV+zy3zZKyljd1qajq3wneqT04XItY6lj hGAz4l/eyommV243aq+HmjeP3IukK5SLkO/kSu4g8C9ASH+0TUgaMRgmaqpW1b7xjC 8Td90K9UdLsfEabdTRRnFzOGc1XYimp/XrSSodmo= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove stale text that forbids the use of TLS records carrying early data (#2845) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d12eed1ebbe5_50bf3f98c98cd95c3388a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2019 04:04:37 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d12eed1ebbe5_50bf3f98c98cd95c3388a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Merged #2845 into master. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -633,18 +633,22 @@ tree could be discarded safely. Clients could potentially reference closed
 streams long after the server had discarded state, leading to disparate views of
 the prioritization the client had attempted to express.
 
-In HTTP/3, a number of placeholders are explicitly permitted by the server using
-the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` setting. Because the server commits to
-maintaining these placeholders in the prioritization tree, clients can use them
-with confidence that the server will not have discarded the state. Clients MUST
-NOT send the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` setting; receipt of this setting by a
-server MUST be treated as a connection error of type
+In HTTP/3, by using the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` setting, the server
+advertises the number of client-controlled placeholders for which it is
+committing to maintain state.  Client-controlled placeholders are given their
+own number space that spans between zero and 2^62-1.  Clients can use the
+client-controlled placeholders with an ID less than the value of this setting
+with the confidence that the server will not have discarded the state.  The

If the text is unclear, maybe we should change it to something like "with the confidence that the server will retain state"? Note that the sentence is about ID being less than SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS.

Question, if we have PlaceholderN->RequestN->root in a tree and RequestN has long since been discarded; is this considered "discarding the state"?

No. "State" here means the existence of the placeholder and the relationship with it's children.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> -the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` setting. Because the server commits to
-maintaining these placeholders in the prioritization tree, clients can use them
-with confidence that the server will not have discarded the state. Clients MUST
-NOT send the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` setting; receipt of this setting by a
-server MUST be treated as a connection error of type
+In HTTP/3, by using the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` setting, the server
+advertises the number of client-controlled placeholders for which it is
+committing to maintain state.  Client-controlled placeholders are given their
+own number space that spans between zero and 2^62-1.  Clients can use the
+client-controlled placeholders with an ID less than the value of this setting
+with the confidence that the server will not have discarded the state.  The
+orphan placeholder cannot be prioritized or referenced by the client.
+
+Servers are RECOMMENDED to support at least 32 placeholders.  Those that do not
+SHOULD refrain from supporting placeholders at all, setting
+`SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` to zero.

This is the outcome of the discussion (see above). The intent is:

  • recommend providing at least 32 placeholders
  • acknowledge that 0 is a sensible value when that not possible

The rational is to make it possible for a client to create a priority tree that works reasonably well, assuming that it uses no more than 32 placeholders in these two conditions.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1224,9 +1228,17 @@ The following situations are examples of invalid PRIORITY frames:
 A PRIORITY frame with Empty bits not set to zero MAY be treated as a connection
 error of type HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME.
 
-A PRIORITY frame that references a non-existent Push ID, a Placeholder ID
-greater than the server's limit, or a Stream ID the client is not yet permitted
-to open MUST be treated as a connection error of type HTTP_LIMIT_EXCEEDED.
+A PRIORITY frame that references a non-existent Push ID or a Stream ID the
+client is not yet permitted to open MUST be treated as a connection error of
+type HTTP_LIMIT_EXCEEDED.
+
+A PRIORITY frame MAY reference a Placeholder ID that is equal to or greater than
+the server's advertised value of the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` settings.  When
+receiving a PRIORITY frame with its prioritized element set to such a
+placeholder, the server SHOULD discard the frame without making any change to

I think I prefer "SHOULD."

Having SHOULD here, along with the recommendation that the server would support at least 32 placeholders (or zero), gives a client the chance to build a prioritization tree that works well.

Changing this to MAY makes that difficult. Consider the case where the client uses a Firefox-like priority tree a server advertises SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS of zero but in fact supports one. Having one placeholder being active while dependencies of other placeholders being assigned to root causes a nightmare.

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@kazuho commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1224,9 +1228,17 @@ The following situations are examples of invalid PRIORITY frames:
 A PRIORITY frame with Empty bits not set to zero MAY be treated as a connection
 error of type HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME.
 
-A PRIORITY frame that references a non-existent Push ID, a Placeholder ID
-greater than the server's limit, or a Stream ID the client is not yet permitted
-to open MUST be treated as a connection error of type HTTP_LIMIT_EXCEEDED.
+A PRIORITY frame that references a non-existent Push ID or a Stream ID the
+client is not yet permitted to open MUST be treated as a connection error of
+type HTTP_LIMIT_EXCEEDED.
+
+A PRIORITY frame MAY reference a Placeholder ID that is equal to or greater than
+the server's advertised value of the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` settings.  When
+receiving a PRIORITY frame with its prioritized element set to such a
+placeholder, the server SHOULD discard the frame without making any change to
+the priority tree.  When receiving a PRIORITY frame with its element dependency
+set to such a placeholder, the server SHOULD update the priority tree with the

I am not sure if "discard" is the correct word, because placeholders are never discarded. They simply exist (or do not).

How about "nonexistent"?

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Should a client respond with STREAM_CREATION_ERROR when it sees the server opening a bidirectional stream?

At the moment the designated error code is HTTP_GENERAL_PROTOCOL_ERROR, but STREAM_CREATION_ERROR might be a better fit.

Or if we are not going to use STREAM_CREATION_ERROR for server-initiated bidirectional streams, I think we should better rename it to UNIDIRECTIONAL_STREAM_CREATION_ERROR to avoid confusion.

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----==_mimepart_5d12fb0b5e601_47e33ff5350cd96463689f-- From nobody Wed Jun 26 00:56:47 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2D0512015C for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2019 00:56:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pdEmGp8HWK8D for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2019 00:56:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F64D120179 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2019 00:56:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2019 00:56:38 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561535798; bh=LOO8zDngEcDr+3VFC57u/uV5KEvuM401/hc1LMC8QlQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=qsIfHCI9YjN7goZz8oNGBWJZbqthjgfr8aETK21DRDspL9g4kyu67gz+Ba7lrnP6u XMiEOpoE6OWoKMuJ0LO6IjjK+JOhVz0KQgZhfX++OkUOf6MJgMRSlCStadUOGxO4HW 4yDCW1bnulAsWd3SneCDum73ircyTH5fHRCOlqaw= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] allow PRIORITY frames referring to placeholders exceeding `SETTING_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` (#2761) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d132536c7f38_40ee3fd543acd96c690f4"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2019 07:56:45 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d132536c7f38_40ee3fd543acd96c690f4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson commented on this pull request. > @@ -633,18 +633,22 @@ tree could be discarded safely. Clients could potentially reference closed streams long after the server had discarded state, leading to disparate views of the prioritization the client had attempted to express. -In HTTP/3, a number of placeholders are explicitly permitted by the server using -the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` setting. Because the server commits to -maintaining these placeholders in the prioritization tree, clients can use them -with confidence that the server will not have discarded the state. Clients MUST -NOT send the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` setting; receipt of this setting by a -server MUST be treated as a connection error of type +In HTTP/3, by using the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` setting, the server +advertises the number of client-controlled placeholders for which it is +committing to maintain state. Client-controlled placeholders are given their +own number space that spans between zero and 2^62-1. Clients can use the +client-controlled placeholders with an ID less than the value of this setting +with the confidence that the server will not have discarded the state. The Then say "that the server will not have disposed of the priority of the placeholder". > -the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` setting. Because the server commits to -maintaining these placeholders in the prioritization tree, clients can use them -with confidence that the server will not have discarded the state. Clients MUST -NOT send the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` setting; receipt of this setting by a -server MUST be treated as a connection error of type +In HTTP/3, by using the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` setting, the server +advertises the number of client-controlled placeholders for which it is +committing to maintain state. Client-controlled placeholders are given their +own number space that spans between zero and 2^62-1. Clients can use the +client-controlled placeholders with an ID less than the value of this setting +with the confidence that the server will not have discarded the state. The +orphan placeholder cannot be prioritized or referenced by the client. + +Servers are RECOMMENDED to support at least 32 placeholders. Those that do not +SHOULD refrain from supporting placeholders at all, setting +`SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` to zero. Yes, I understand that, but two chained SHOULD statements is hard to follow. Mostly, I just don't agree with the conclusion of that discussion. If I want to provide 24, that is perfectly fine, and it might be enough for most clients. Pushing me toward advertising zero doesn't help at all. So I don't agree with the idea that pushing people toward 0 is needed. They can make that decision on their own. And it's the default, so there is plenty of encouragement already. An implementation that wants placeholders will have to implement some number of strategies for priority. If they get the number of placeholders they want, cool. If not, then they have to find another strategy. > @@ -1224,9 +1228,17 @@ The following situations are examples of invalid PRIORITY frames: A PRIORITY frame with Empty bits not set to zero MAY be treated as a connection error of type HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME. -A PRIORITY frame that references a non-existent Push ID, a Placeholder ID -greater than the server's limit, or a Stream ID the client is not yet permitted -to open MUST be treated as a connection error of type HTTP_LIMIT_EXCEEDED. +A PRIORITY frame that references a non-existent Push ID or a Stream ID the +client is not yet permitted to open MUST be treated as a connection error of +type HTTP_LIMIT_EXCEEDED. + +A PRIORITY frame MAY reference a Placeholder ID that is equal to or greater than +the server's advertised value of the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` settings. When +receiving a PRIORITY frame with its prioritized element set to such a +placeholder, the server SHOULD discard the frame without making any change to SHOULD makes no sense. It says that there is an interoperability requirement to put those nodes in the orphan bucket. What does anyone gain from this? The client is prioritizing without regard for server limits, but if the server can build a valid tree, why not let it? > @@ -1224,9 +1228,17 @@ The following situations are examples of invalid PRIORITY frames: A PRIORITY frame with Empty bits not set to zero MAY be treated as a connection error of type HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME. -A PRIORITY frame that references a non-existent Push ID, a Placeholder ID -greater than the server's limit, or a Stream ID the client is not yet permitted -to open MUST be treated as a connection error of type HTTP_LIMIT_EXCEEDED. +A PRIORITY frame that references a non-existent Push ID or a Stream ID the +client is not yet permitted to open MUST be treated as a connection error of +type HTTP_LIMIT_EXCEEDED. + +A PRIORITY frame MAY reference a Placeholder ID that is equal to or greater than +the server's advertised value of the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` settings. When +receiving a PRIORITY frame with its prioritized element set to such a +placeholder, the server SHOULD discard the frame without making any change to +the priority tree. When receiving a PRIORITY frame with its element dependency +set to such a placeholder, the server SHOULD update the priority tree with the Sure. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2761#discussion_r297526521 ----==_mimepart_5d132536c7f38_40ee3fd543acd96c690f4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -633,18 +633,22 @@ tree could be discarded safely. Clients could potentially reference closed
 streams long after the server had discarded state, leading to disparate views of
 the prioritization the client had attempted to express.
 
-In HTTP/3, a number of placeholders are explicitly permitted by the server using
-the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` setting. Because the server commits to
-maintaining these placeholders in the prioritization tree, clients can use them
-with confidence that the server will not have discarded the state. Clients MUST
-NOT send the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` setting; receipt of this setting by a
-server MUST be treated as a connection error of type
+In HTTP/3, by using the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` setting, the server
+advertises the number of client-controlled placeholders for which it is
+committing to maintain state.  Client-controlled placeholders are given their
+own number space that spans between zero and 2^62-1.  Clients can use the
+client-controlled placeholders with an ID less than the value of this setting
+with the confidence that the server will not have discarded the state.  The

Then say "that the server will not have disposed of the priority of the placeholder".

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> -the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` setting. Because the server commits to
-maintaining these placeholders in the prioritization tree, clients can use them
-with confidence that the server will not have discarded the state. Clients MUST
-NOT send the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` setting; receipt of this setting by a
-server MUST be treated as a connection error of type
+In HTTP/3, by using the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` setting, the server
+advertises the number of client-controlled placeholders for which it is
+committing to maintain state.  Client-controlled placeholders are given their
+own number space that spans between zero and 2^62-1.  Clients can use the
+client-controlled placeholders with an ID less than the value of this setting
+with the confidence that the server will not have discarded the state.  The
+orphan placeholder cannot be prioritized or referenced by the client.
+
+Servers are RECOMMENDED to support at least 32 placeholders.  Those that do not
+SHOULD refrain from supporting placeholders at all, setting
+`SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` to zero.

Yes, I understand that, but two chained SHOULD statements is hard to follow.

Mostly, I just don't agree with the conclusion of that discussion. If I want to provide 24, that is perfectly fine, and it might be enough for most clients. Pushing me toward advertising zero doesn't help at all.

So I don't agree with the idea that pushing people toward 0 is needed. They can make that decision on their own. And it's the default, so there is plenty of encouragement already.

An implementation that wants placeholders will have to implement some number of strategies for priority. If they get the number of placeholders they want, cool. If not, then they have to find another strategy.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1224,9 +1228,17 @@ The following situations are examples of invalid PRIORITY frames:
 A PRIORITY frame with Empty bits not set to zero MAY be treated as a connection
 error of type HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME.
 
-A PRIORITY frame that references a non-existent Push ID, a Placeholder ID
-greater than the server's limit, or a Stream ID the client is not yet permitted
-to open MUST be treated as a connection error of type HTTP_LIMIT_EXCEEDED.
+A PRIORITY frame that references a non-existent Push ID or a Stream ID the
+client is not yet permitted to open MUST be treated as a connection error of
+type HTTP_LIMIT_EXCEEDED.
+
+A PRIORITY frame MAY reference a Placeholder ID that is equal to or greater than
+the server's advertised value of the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` settings.  When
+receiving a PRIORITY frame with its prioritized element set to such a
+placeholder, the server SHOULD discard the frame without making any change to

SHOULD makes no sense. It says that there is an interoperability requirement to put those nodes in the orphan bucket. What does anyone gain from this? The client is prioritizing without regard for server limits, but if the server can build a valid tree, why not let it?

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1224,9 +1228,17 @@ The following situations are examples of invalid PRIORITY frames:
 A PRIORITY frame with Empty bits not set to zero MAY be treated as a connection
 error of type HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME.
 
-A PRIORITY frame that references a non-existent Push ID, a Placeholder ID
-greater than the server's limit, or a Stream ID the client is not yet permitted
-to open MUST be treated as a connection error of type HTTP_LIMIT_EXCEEDED.
+A PRIORITY frame that references a non-existent Push ID or a Stream ID the
+client is not yet permitted to open MUST be treated as a connection error of
+type HTTP_LIMIT_EXCEEDED.
+
+A PRIORITY frame MAY reference a Placeholder ID that is equal to or greater than
+the server's advertised value of the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` settings.  When
+receiving a PRIORITY frame with its prioritized element set to such a
+placeholder, the server SHOULD discard the frame without making any change to
+the priority tree.  When receiving a PRIORITY frame with its element dependency
+set to such a placeholder, the server SHOULD update the priority tree with the

Sure.

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It seems like you have sorted this out. I have no problem with using "SHOULD" over "MAY" here.

Note that the reason we have this distinction is logical separation of the mechanism of Retry and 0-RTT acceptance. Retry strictly precedes the connection attempt. No point in blocking 0-RTT if you have to Retry. HelloRetryRequest is different in that certain characteristics it might cause to reset affect whether the 0-RTT works. Retry is required to use the same ClientHello, so there is no need to have the two interact; you can treat a Retry almost as a loss event for the first Initial and everything works fine.

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The subject of the sentence is the singular noun value.

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  • Fix grammar

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[ci skip] From nobody Wed Jun 26 07:24:24 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A334F1200B9 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2019 07:24:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1iZoJpD8T39t for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2019 07:24:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9118E120044 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2019 07:24:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2019 07:24:19 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561559059; bh=BYZ1MQXuecZVgNlyTDi2WK8sQFEc4jfav2wgAwGaq3k=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=PcJcPCCJOOhnu54RiDKk8ZVYF5H6luiBjILXnjgV+8BPjHxaWebmOa/bqw6jBBR6p K08QDCuMoFO3Oa4B3FVpr+jXHeu7JSNuHlhaHm2xzXXlqqoWz8MOiLdWpNT+5GTMtU MoQTAr7GKxAlYo29IoqbcV+9gQYqtrcOPIt3kmH8= From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Resetting stream without knowledge (#2850) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d1380136114b_27f93f91ae2cd95c12665e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2019 14:24:23 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d1380136114b_27f93f91ae2cd95c12665e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The transport currently says > Resetting a stream without knowledge of the application protocol could cause the protocol to enter an unrecoverable state. It feels more correct to say > Resetting a stream without the application protocols knowledge could cause the it to enter an unrecoverable state. I'll prepare a PR if my understanding and suggestion is correct. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2850 ----==_mimepart_5d1380136114b_27f93f91ae2cd95c12665e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The transport currently says

Resetting a stream without knowledge of the application protocol could cause the protocol to enter an unrecoverable state.

It feels more correct to say

Resetting a stream without the application protocols knowledge could cause the it to enter an unrecoverable state.

I'll prepare a PR if my understanding and suggestion is correct.

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This relates to some earlier discussion on #2711 and its now-merged PR #2773.

We only recently added text to specify the use of HTTP_GENERAL_PROTOCOL_ERROR in this case, I think it fits to modify this to STREAM_CREATION_ERROR.

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  • 89282f3 Server bidi streams are a HTTP_STREAM_CREATION_ERROR

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My proposal: quicv2.

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It's a subtle point, but it seems OK. I do find the use of a possessive in that phrasing abhorrent though.

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I made a stupid typo, whoops. Open to alternative phrasing. "Pulling the rug" comes to mind...

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You're changing the meaning here, and I think the existing phrasing is correct.

If you don't understand the application protocol, you don't know which streams are safe to reset and which will be connection-fatal. Telling the application protocol that you reset the stream doesn't make it any less fatal if you reset the wrong stream.

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Oh, totally separable. But then you'd then have two competing permissions-to-blow up -- because the critical stream close (regardless of error code) and because a stream closed with an invalid error code (regardless of which stream). And I don't think it matters which reason you have to blow up or what the resulting error is.

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So looking at the paragraph in entirety I agree with @MikeBishop :

RESET_STREAM MUST be instigated by the protocol using QUIC, either
directly or through the receipt of a STOP_SENDING frame from a peer.
RESET_STREAM carries an application error code. Resetting a stream
without knowledge of the application protocol could cause the
protocol to enter an unrecoverable state. Application protocols
might require certain streams to be reliably delivered in order to
guarantee consistent state between endpoints.

Is the intention to describe why " RESET_STREAM MUST be instigated by the protocol"? The words following the normative text are a bit wooly/weasely. I think this paragraph slightly falls victim to the problem that you raised on #2805 but from the other side of the coin. Nowhere else do we use the phrase "protocol using QUIC" - it sounds a bit bcp56(bis).

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Yes -- QUIC doesn't unilaterally reset streams, because it doesn't have the context to do so safely. The application layer on one of the peers has to do that, even if it does so via a STOP_SENDING transmitted by QUIC.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> -the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` setting. Because the server commits to
-maintaining these placeholders in the prioritization tree, clients can use them
-with confidence that the server will not have discarded the state. Clients MUST
-NOT send the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` setting; receipt of this setting by a
-server MUST be treated as a connection error of type
+In HTTP/3, by using the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` setting, the server
+advertises the number of client-controlled placeholders for which it is
+committing to maintain state.  Client-controlled placeholders are given their
+own number space that spans between zero and 2^62-1.  Clients can use the
+client-controlled placeholders with an ID less than the value of this setting
+with the confidence that the server will not have discarded the state.  The
+orphan placeholder cannot be prioritized or referenced by the client.
+
+Servers are RECOMMENDED to support at least 32 placeholders.  Those that do not
+SHOULD refrain from supporting placeholders at all, setting
+`SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` to zero.

@ianswett was the main proponent for the "or bust" portion of this recommendation, I believe. Want to defend the sentence?

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@afrind commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

>  
 An encoder MUST NOT insert an entry into the dynamic table (or duplicate an
-existing entry) if doing so would evict a blocking entry.  In this case, the
-encoder can send literal representations of header fields.
+existing entry) if doing so would evict a blocking entry.  An encoder can always
+send literal representations of header fields when the dynamic table is full

This is covered in the "Encoder" section:

An encoder converts a header list into a header block by emitting either an indexed or a literal representation for each header field in the list
...
References to the static table and literal representations do not require any dynamic state and never risk head-of-line blocking

I guess it doesn't specifically state the encoder "can always send" these representations, but I'm going for less=more here. Maybe we can add it later, if really needed. I don't think it belongs in Avoiding Blocked Insertions, since optimistic insertions could also be blocked, and have nothing to do with literal representations.

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Dynamic table entries can contain empty values 2. Encoder needs to send Set Dynamic Table Capacity to use the dynamic table 3. Removed a redundant condition from the eviction algorithm 4. Cancellation may need to be sent even after reading the end of stream 5. Improved description of Relative and Post-Base indices Commit: c81c290d169e2106d5b28978cd24ee233015649b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c81c290d169e2106d5b28978cd24ee233015649b Author: Alan Frindell Date: 2019-06-26 (Wed, 26 Jun 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md Log Message: ----------- [qpack] Move some decoder text to the decoder section It was in the encoder section Commit: e251b7dfceccb027fe462b3c5f980c29a657a314 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e251b7dfceccb027fe462b3c5f980c29a657a314 Author: Alan Frindell Date: 2019-06-26 (Wed, 26 Jun 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md Log Message: ----------- [qpack] Move some explanatory text from Wire Format to Decoder section Some editorial changes to the text Commit: 71af1873f346495148acfd7ddf840237a6068f24 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/71af1873f346495148acfd7ddf840237a6068f24 Author: Alan Frindell Date: 2019-06-26 (Wed, 26 Jun 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md Log Message: ----------- [qpack] Make the instruction text more consistent * Use a consistent format for describing the insutrction/representation for all instructions in a given class * Make sure all the bits are described accurately in text since the drawings are non-normative * Clean up a little regular vs post-base language * Rewrote the intro section to encoder instructions Commit: 971f7454bd414bca6f47a77fb0b0283bb385c5f1 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/971f7454bd414bca6f47a77fb0b0283bb385c5f1 Author: Alan Frindell Date: 2019-06-26 (Wed, 26 Jun 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md Log Message: ----------- [qpack] Remove redundant stream text, update TOC Commit: 33795a5fb45d8625a452703cf8df5e8d0180ab6c https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/33795a5fb45d8625a452703cf8df5e8d0180ab6c Author: Alan Frindell Date: 2019-06-26 (Wed, 26 Jun 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md Log Message: ----------- [qpack] Header blocks carry representations Commit: 06d63073ae61ee043691e31c7eb53f5fb4b61b54 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/06d63073ae61ee043691e31c7eb53f5fb4b61b54 Author: Alan Frindell Date: 2019-06-26 (Wed, 26 Jun 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md Log Message: ----------- Review feedback from everyone Commit: 6b6fd584a5cb5ca9843e656a9531dc4c88b62af8 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6b6fd584a5cb5ca9843e656a9531dc4c88b62af8 Author: Alan Frindell Date: 2019-06-26 (Wed, 26 Jun 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md Log Message: ----------- More feedback Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/7757fa1f6f36...6b6fd584a5cb From nobody Wed Jun 26 11:19:30 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3ED71203DC for ; 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However, doing this prevents your peer from multiplexing connections on a single port. This PR restricts zero-length connection IDs to only be used when a host can route connection on the local 2-tuple (IP/port). The current spec does not allow clients to share a local port ever, because at the time they start their connection they cannot know if a given server will want to route on the 4-tuple. Additionally, some clients might even be forced to perform this multiplexing because they are going through a proxy. Slightly restricting the use of zero-length connection IDs gives value to client connection IDs. Fixes #2844. 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In the current spec, zero-length connection IDs can be used when a host wants to route connections on the 4-tuple (remote IP/port, local IP/port). However, doing this prevents your peer from multiplexing connections on a single port. This PR restricts zero-length connection IDs to only be used when a host can route connection on the local 2-tuple (IP/port).

The current spec does not allow clients to share a local port ever, because at the time they start their connection they cannot know if a given server will want to route on the 4-tuple. Additionally, some clients might even be forced to perform this multiplexing because they are going through a proxy. Slightly restricting the use of zero-length connection IDs gives value to client connection IDs.

Fixes #2844.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2851

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  • Allow connections to share a port by adding restrictions on zero-length connection IDs

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@martinthomson the issue is that, at the moment it creates the connection, a client has no way of knowing that a server will multiplex and use zero-length CIDs. Therefore just giving servers the possibility of multiplexing and using zero-length CIDs completely negates the value of client connection IDs.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -924,11 +924,14 @@ selected by the client, both to ensure correct routing toward the client and to
 allow the client to validate that the packet is in response to an Initial
 packet.
 
-A zero-length connection ID MAY be used when the connection ID is not needed for
-routing and the address/port tuple of packets is sufficient to identify a
-connection. An endpoint whose peer has selected a zero-length connection ID MUST
-continue to use a zero-length connection ID for the lifetime of the connection
-and MUST NOT send packets from any other local address.
+A zero-length connection ID MAY be used when the connection ID is not needed
+for routing and the destination address and port of incoming packets is
+sufficient to identify a connection (e.g., when there is a single connection
+on a given local port). Note that it is not possible to use the source address
+and port of incoming packets to demultiplex them across connections because a
+peer might multiplex multiple connections on a single address and port and rely
+on its connection IDs for demultiplexing, and the peer's connection IDs are not
+transmitted in the short header packets they send.

because a peer or on path device might multiplex

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The current spec does not allow clients to share a local port ever, because at the time they start their connection they cannot know if a given server will want to route on the 4-tuple.

I'm not sure that is true, but if is, it should be fixed.

A P2P server scenario will definitely want to use a single port on both ends, and which one is client, might change at any given moment. In this case you have out of band knowledge about path behaviour.

For client p2p I'd hope that it is also possible to only use a single port when a CID is used.

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@mikkelfj in the P2P case you often have a bootstrapping protocol (ICE, STUN, TURN, etc.) that gives you a single-use ephemeral port on both sides, so you can then happily use zero-length connection IDs because you'll only have one connection on that port. If you expect to share the port for multiple connections, then you can use non-zero-length CIDs, there's nothing in the spec (or this PR) that prevents that.

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Isn't that something the client can know before it creates the second connection?

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[ci skip] From nobody Wed Jun 26 19:03:39 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE1E5120152 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2019 19:03:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16ENVzQ9ZUDg for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2019 19:03:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA566120124 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2019 19:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2019 19:03:34 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561601014; bh=HzGEhxWo3Ayoq7dZ6JGI9GoBSQiU9LQUrvzXUj/olys=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Sf09okc1/vo8xzsZqENtnID8kTAd9wB/iVXWkEmZJsREDqYoEGGDjqg0MtGLtMkwQ rn5MCA0wwcP/m3/oWMHiJx0c9Zn5f+U5zOoXeQ8i3CTa9vwts9TkjChYeY09ywT5+U 5Q2ngVRoifWFXeuf4UmIZ+1R8haXPAbUpS4tkdF0= From: Christian Huitema Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Client connection IDs are broken (#2844) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d1423f612f49_57fd3fb5b74cd9646814c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: huitema X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 02:03:38 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d1423f612f49_57fd3fb5b74cd9646814c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The problem is not the leaf client, it is the proxy. The logical implementation of the proxy is to have just one UDP port. Conceivably, the proxy could manage a pool of ports and try to guarantee that a given 5 tuple corresponds to exactly one client-server connection. But that's significantly more complex than having just one port and relying on the CID. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2844#issuecomment-506108881 ----==_mimepart_5d1423f612f49_57fd3fb5b74cd9646814c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The problem is not the leaf client, it is the proxy. The logical implementation of the proxy is to have just one UDP port. Conceivably, the proxy could manage a pool of ports and try to guarantee that a given 5 tuple corresponds to exactly one client-server connection. But that's significantly more complex than having just one port and relying on the CID.

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Fixes #2842.

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  • recommend resending of 0-RTT data after a Retry

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[ci skip] From nobody Wed Jun 26 23:07:41 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F285A1200FF for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2019 23:07:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.595 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.595 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0HoMiNvAHaJ7 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2019 23:07:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-22.smtp.github.com (out-22.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.205]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3979A1200F5 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2019 23:07:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2019 23:07:37 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561615657; bh=e+QTMSxVhD+YOhg6Armv0NvB74vApX/4JJWwX22riX4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=tm62SOByD2lbdaaEg/qKjmvgaTAaCmJgCSXDV9J5deRDrNA1ocMn+bP9+fQ4X+TIO d2vTSfotMjdAC1SM5SoQWfbax9Us1yXsgas5CRvM8+NbGUIe5z+IYIzSGB5RM9F0fW d8bxr7dCN1KKXPHu+Plcwfy5ndNN4Lr6NHS5AHSg= From: Julian Reschke Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] transport: fix dangling ref to recovery (#2853) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d145d29518b_7f453fda136cd96472542"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: reschke X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 06:07:40 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d145d29518b_7f453fda136cd96472542 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit reschke commented on this pull request. > @@ -2924,7 +2924,7 @@ messages are delayed or lost. Note that the same limitation applies to other data sent by the server protected by the 1-RTT keys. Endpoints SHOULD send acknowledgments for packets containing CRYPTO frames with -a reduced delay; see Section 6.2.1 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}. +a reduced delay; see Section 6.4 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}. No, I think the change is correct. See and . (FWIW, it would be good if these checks could be made part of the toolset used for the build) -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2853#discussion_r298019209 ----==_mimepart_5d145d29518b_7f453fda136cd96472542 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@reschke commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2924,7 +2924,7 @@ messages are delayed or lost.  Note that the same limitation applies to other
 data sent by the server protected by the 1-RTT keys.
 
 Endpoints SHOULD send acknowledgments for packets containing CRYPTO frames with
-a reduced delay; see Section 6.2.1 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.
+a reduced delay; see Section 6.4 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.

No, I think the change is correct. See https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-transport-20#section-13.1.2 and https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-recovery-20#section-6.2.1.

(FWIW, it would be good if these checks could be made part of the toolset used for the build)

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On client P2P / ICE: These are yesterdays protocols. You can have a new version of these brokers. If you use IPV6 you could skipping the port step. Also a client implementation might skip the part of supporting multiple ports because you a skipping the OS and go with raw sockets, netmap, etc.. It is much simpler to just rely on the CID. Especially if you consider implementations that can also run outside of IP networks.

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On server P2P you do not have a boot strapping protocol. Then it is integral the service logic being implemented. I have a strong use case for this and would be very sad if ports cannot be stable.

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@janaiyengar is that ready for a consensus call?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2924,7 +2924,7 @@ messages are delayed or lost.  Note that the same limitation applies to other
 data sent by the server protected by the 1-RTT keys.
 
 Endpoints SHOULD send acknowledgments for packets containing CRYPTO frames with
-a reduced delay; see Section 6.2.1 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.
+a reduced delay; see Section 6.4 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.

There are changes in the editor's drafts. Section 6.2 deals with crypto timeout now.

I would love to have time to build a means of cross referencing when using markdown. It is just a frightening prospect. I find ruby and kramdown-rfc2629 both really difficult to work in. I haven't worked out how to do it architecturally, either. If you have any suggestions (other than using XML as the source format ...) I would be interested, though that might still be insufficient from a time perspective.

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Yes. It was editorial. So I merged it. But then this issue really isn't editorial.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -2174,7 +2174,9 @@ NO_ERROR (0x0):
 : HTTP_NO_ERROR in {{http-error-codes}}.
 
 PROTOCOL_ERROR (0x1):
-: No single mapping.  See new HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME error codes defined in
+: No single mapping. Split into a few error codes, including

thanks, I applied your suggestion @martinthomson

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----==_mimepart_5d1495d2c7dfe_16763fdd8f4cd96416777b-- From nobody Thu Jun 27 05:20:50 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57F1712024F for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 05:20:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7TdcGxge7M0X for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 05:20:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 862A8120026 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 05:20:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 05:20:46 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561638046; bh=+BJbB11en/FY2XnM80mH7cRjw2MS0XLbmFBdRRf+zCQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=HjAvF2jdfOU2xbJpfl/mpB6Zp98SxLSmlhJHg0pWt3QsMqmgcWyAjGRP1Se2wSlQm MxzN7dRnIDWbeGLlOdMknLgx2FMqEPfBARgEo+WoKtI++J26BH8nPUixbJf3EViKzh YR9+CCruirwidVOn+qlVVewAK3fbD+xWsmzr2Bok= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Exceeding Max STREAM ID should be a connection error (#2825) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d14b49e63424_692d3ff6064cd95c187fe"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 12:20:49 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d14b49e63424_692d3ff6064cd95c187fe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, I opened this issue, then found that text in section 19.11 in the doc said exceeding MAX_STREAM_ID was a connection error, so the PR ended up aligning the two sections. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2825#issuecomment-506322647 ----==_mimepart_5d14b49e63424_692d3ff6064cd95c187fe Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Yes, I opened this issue, then found that text in section 19.11 in the doc said exceeding MAX_STREAM_ID was a connection error, so the PR ended up aligning the two sections.

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@ianswett approved this pull request.

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There are a lot of open comments on the PR, so I think not yet?

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"Abandoning Initial Packets" refers to -recovery:

see Sections 5.3.1.2 and 6.9 of [QUIC-RECOVERY]

but these sections do not seem to exist (nor did they when the text was introduced between -16 and -17).

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@mikkelfj if your use-case uses non-zero-length connection IDs, then it is not relevant to this PR. This PR does not change how non-zero-length CIDs work.

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----==_mimepart_5d14ec2b77626_2ef93f82b02cd964729be-- From nobody Thu Jun 27 09:59:37 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FC3B1201B5 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 09:59:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VO3JOQCh4ma5 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 09:59:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2D01D1201D1 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 09:59:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 09:59:09 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561654750; bh=7YYgLKY9xNcAFbkxUMQuhTBisAHOwh1M+Qz1krB8bo4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ArKeiHiA26lcFG2CXHCcOuqj2VHqFZ05FcJs44ZX/ZQWkaOkoC40h6Grep61yjquu DFXV6krRpfVinwxT5C5STzediiY4akt37pO8Vbf7MxvZKDUtmEnRB9y/+rhM8nvDaN Pk+VZcrOjdbctjhARivJx2SrQpJqYxZALD/K7fkE= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Allow connections to share a port by adding restrictions on zero-length connection IDs (#2851) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d14f5dde9d3d_63d83fa8022cd96011049"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 16:59:36 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d14f5dde9d3d_63d83fa8022cd96011049 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My objection was to the sentence "The current spec does not allow clients to share a local port ever" which implies also with CID. Whether you PR fixes this or not is not clear to me, but I find it problematic if is correct and then not fixed. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2851#issuecomment-506428826 ----==_mimepart_5d14f5dde9d3d_63d83fa8022cd96011049 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

My objection was to the sentence "The current spec does not allow clients to share a local port ever"
which implies also with CID. Whether you PR fixes this or not is not clear to me, but I find it problematic if is correct and then not fixed.

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Yes it is problematic, and this PR attempts to fix that.

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Closed #2807 via #2808.

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Receiving Stream States 1a752ccc0099be5ca880848a59c9f18ea2b6203c Fix grammar 98d4f38a6386773d3bfbae4cb72c3afcce1e8daf Merge pull request #2835 from amirlivneh/grammar-2 4d38e6f55020714443ae5a7bddad662d1e3d7cc3 Merge pull request #2830 from monkey-mas/fix-grammar-in-3-2-ReceivingStreamStates eb640ba08786f55498514abc5534532895a9dddc recovery: fix dangling ref to tls 217306941a341029879362e7496d9d27a759512a Merge pull request #2836 from reschke/patch-24 58877cfbf582e03e78d1727f27c3c008b2633f30 Merge pull request #2827 from amirlivneh/typos b18e0baf6b2fc1e532e956c1a81ea57edf5b4777 Merge pull request #2831 from marten-seemann/pn-after-retry c1e6e1eaa4500944f778c4cd6683861d33505e8a Merge pull request #2833 from marten-seemann/fix-packet-buffering 63aa20accef3f5be9da50f26aab444162bd27944 Merge pull request #2731 from quicwg/ianswett-transport bbe2b80d490c39c1d5900a5f00b4bbe11a29c4df Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md dd947bce51843c3ec294b13428b47c220e6a7f41 Merge pull request #2730 from quicwg/ianswett-streams-editorial 0ba5ab23f95342b221cabac4fc96e635616be430 Merge pull request #2826 from quicwg/ianswett-exceed-stream-limits dc9d7ebdb2f14409a4a547bd0605f2b56814f050 Remove stale text that forbids the use of TLS records carrying early data. As 39eacb3d1b3fa7e06508cd3147faae50b7f77cc4 Merge pull request #2832 from marten-seemann/remove-misleading-retry-sentence 49065dba4cd6a61faceb53c913c86426cb07e6ef Merge pull request #2828 from amirlivneh/capitalization 6ade931ef4ed274fb5608ab78b65279e39cabd2f it doesn't matter what an Initial is coalesced with 429c21970577028a46aed47c41f57e6ba0c37260 Merge pull request #2845 from kazuho/kazuho/early-data-records-arnt-available b536fb12752ec4302d7e805494a658ba9e8a27dd Merge pull request #2846 from marten-seemann/coalesce-initial 41286c3d318a32922cb1da6bccf3135b7aee2e82 Wrap da92b1e351dd4893bc5c702890258d24271a7b2c Fix grammar 10f280e67cd0b564ed63dac5bb755e23347cff05 Merge pull request #2848 from amirlivneh/grammar-3 575fff7375c90039c38aed3d12c43dba8923d59d Fix grammar 7757fa1f6f367b678118726b98f76d98f4d46657 Merge pull request #2849 from amirlivneh/grammar-4 00825b28527842415b2500bf9f8ea6cdb0c16cc7 [qpack] rewrite abstract 3db93931bff5b7873c227acc56270d022dc02591 [qpack] Minor editorial pass 204691ddd4bae68984fa44d24624024714d18612 [qpack] Prefer header blocks to H3 frame types f31269bbaa13738634adfb1eeb1329e1195ebeeb [qpack] Reorder sections d24dc65ec79519ba647fce623a7190827498513d [qpack] Editorial Clarifications c81c290d169e2106d5b28978cd24ee233015649b [qpack] Move some decoder text to the decoder section e251b7dfceccb027fe462b3c5f980c29a657a314 [qpack] Move some explanatory text from Wire Format to Decoder section 71af1873f346495148acfd7ddf840237a6068f24 [qpack] Make the instruction text more consistent 971f7454bd414bca6f47a77fb0b0283bb385c5f1 [qpack] Remove redundant stream text, update TOC 33795a5fb45d8625a452703cf8df5e8d0180ab6c [qpack] Header blocks carry representations 06d63073ae61ee043691e31c7eb53f5fb4b61b54 Review feedback from everyone 6b6fd584a5cb5ca9843e656a9531dc4c88b62af8 More feedback 805380e7d7bb9b5303461a07448e17265da1b362 Merge pull request #2847 from quicwg/tp_mandatory 01ca26ffe1e6aea3c762705af4eef7f990e257ef transport: fix dangling reference to -tls 0d82dc3bc2d50a1094a65c00e71d735078010758 Merge pull request #2854 from reschke/patch-26 d6d6d0f81b781697d6fb55caee804abee43ce8e1 Compare H2 PROTOCOL_ERROR with HTTP_GENERAL_PROTOCOL_ERROR (#2808) 6678903c9d52ae99ec64b44e34f17d6620185ea8 Remove HTTP_PUSH_ALREADY_IN_CACHE error (#2813) bb1170136e37f7bed5fbceac83d6dd1eb0013dff Merge branch '2810-settings-error' of https://github.com/LPardue/base-drafts into LPardue-2810-settings-error -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@MikeBishop pushed 67 commits.

  • 9ea2836 Jana's suggestion
  • fed5f29 Editorial suggestions on the Streams section
  • 84054d5 Transport editorial suggestions
  • 26505e3 Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md
  • d42fd36 Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md
  • 2d198df Fix verb ownership: a packet does not process packets
  • 9fe134f fix description which token to use for Initial packets
  • f9c6851 Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md
  • 9e3b800 Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md
  • 483a757 Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md
  • e879587 Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md
  • f546d20 Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md
  • 8e41bfb Merge pull request #2800 from marten-seemann/fix-token-usage
  • c4fcf6e Merge pull request #2799 from dtikhonov/201906171701-packets-dont-process-packets
  • 4c32ea3 Mike's comments
  • fc2f166 Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md
  • fea52b2 Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md
  • 0cc9300 Make exceeding stream limits a connection error
  • f019459 Fix typos
  • 6154537 Fix title capitalization
  • a3f3471 clarify why the client MUST NOT reset the packet number after a Retry
  • 8c0aa51 remove misleading sentence about connection IDs after Retry
  • 11eca04 remove conflicting paragraph
  • f8ff494 fix typo
  • 86a977d clarify why clients can't send Handshake packets from the beginning
  • ff1698f Fix grammar in 3.2. Receiving Stream States
  • 1a752cc Fix grammar
  • 98d4f38 Merge pull request #2835 from amirlivneh/grammar-2
  • 4d38e6f Merge pull request #2830 from monkey-mas/fix-grammar-in-3-2-ReceivingStreamStates
  • eb640ba recovery: fix dangling ref to tls
  • 2173069 Merge pull request #2836 from reschke/patch-24
  • 58877cf Merge pull request #2827 from amirlivneh/typos
  • b18e0ba Merge pull request #2831 from marten-seemann/pn-after-retry
  • c1e6e1e Merge pull request #2833 from marten-seemann/fix-packet-buffering
  • 63aa20a Merge pull request #2731 from quicwg/ianswett-transport
  • bbe2b80 Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md
  • dd947bc Merge pull request #2730 from quicwg/ianswett-streams-editorial
  • 0ba5ab2 Merge pull request #2826 from quicwg/ianswett-exceed-stream-limits
  • dc9d7eb Remove stale text that forbids the use of TLS records carrying early data. As
  • 39eacb3 Merge pull request #2832 from marten-seemann/remove-misleading-retry-sentence
  • 49065db Merge pull request #2828 from amirlivneh/capitalization
  • 6ade931 it doesn't matter what an Initial is coalesced with
  • 429c219 Merge pull request #2845 from kazuho/kazuho/early-data-records-arnt-available
  • b536fb1 Merge pull request #2846 from marten-seemann/coalesce-initial
  • 41286c3 Wrap
  • da92b1e Fix grammar
  • 10f280e Merge pull request #2848 from amirlivneh/grammar-3
  • 575fff7 Fix grammar
  • 7757fa1 Merge pull request #2849 from amirlivneh/grammar-4
  • 00825b2 [qpack] rewrite abstract
  • 3db9393 [qpack] Minor editorial pass
  • 204691d [qpack] Prefer header blocks to H3 frame types
  • f31269b [qpack] Reorder sections
  • d24dc65 [qpack] Editorial Clarifications
  • c81c290 [qpack] Move some decoder text to the decoder section
  • e251b7d [qpack] Move some explanatory text from Wire Format to Decoder section
  • 71af187 [qpack] Make the instruction text more consistent
  • 971f745 [qpack] Remove redundant stream text, update TOC
  • 33795a5 [qpack] Header blocks carry representations
  • 06d6307 Review feedback from everyone
  • 6b6fd58 More feedback
  • 805380e Merge pull request #2847 from quicwg/tp_mandatory
  • 01ca26f transport: fix dangling reference to -tls
  • 0d82dc3 Merge pull request #2854 from reschke/patch-26
  • d6d6d0f Compare H2 PROTOCOL_ERROR with HTTP_GENERAL_PROTOCOL_ERROR (#2808)
  • 6678903 Remove HTTP_PUSH_ALREADY_IN_CACHE error (#2813)
  • bb11701 Merge branch '2810-settings-error' of https://github.com/LPardue/base-drafts into LPardue-2810-settings-error

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The term "early data" occurs only once, and doesn't even appear until describing the 0-RTT packet type. The introductory sections should probably contain some high-level description of Early Data, then point off to TLS for more detailed considerations. Purely editorial -- nothing new needs to be specified, but an uninitiated reader will need some context. This could possibly be part of #2843. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2856 ----==_mimepart_5d154067c3abb_5e343faf4c4cd96c158983 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

There's a lot of text in the transport draft that assumes you know what 0-RTT / early data are. The term "early data" occurs only once, and doesn't even appear until describing the 0-RTT packet type. The introductory sections should probably contain some high-level description of Early Data, then point off to TLS for more detailed considerations.

Purely editorial -- nothing new needs to be specified, but an uninitiated reader will need some context. This could possibly be part of #2843.

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[ci skip] From nobody Thu Jun 27 16:14:21 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5C581200B4 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 16:14:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ci-sOQR-eXwE for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 16:14:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B6D21200A1 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 16:14:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 16:14:15 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561677255; bh=m/7Sa/UyAv6DjAjIugcCbyqe0WQHpqCbrzIxIZsYtus=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ifSRVB/k8APZdHbh4bde2o2llpXvO1SGmxoyn/iP+kK09y7VvNgA4JMGC3KAZUdAW DJIauvvCekncjOAwTqRNAL/RPyQFf5FP/FRiFpf47ORGNYhU4LSHaqQHM9GGh98hZc J04ipwPhabx95bsmhC7ekF+Rwv9kzxXeAmG1bb94= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Define terms for application actions (#2857) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d154dc757b88_111a3fd7328cd9641555cb"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 23:14:19 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d154dc757b88_111a3fd7328cd9641555cb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This consists of two related commits: - Defines the minimal set of operations which a QUIC implementation MUST expose to the application, introducing terms for them which don't rely on the specific wire formatting - Changes HTTP/3 to use these terms instead of referring to specific QUIC frames Note that this doesn't remove all references to QUIC frames, but the remaining references are explanatory -- they describe what will happen at the transport layer after taking a particular action, rather than being part of the normative text. (But if you find one of these you think needs to go, please include that in this review.) This is a design, because exposing this functionality is mandatory. I'm not sure how you would previously have created a usable QUIC implementation without these operations, but you weren't previously required to have them all. Fixes #2805, closes #2677. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2857 -- Commit Summary -- * Required operations in Transport * HTTP rewords for newly-defined terms -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (105) M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (52) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2857.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2857.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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This consists of two related commits:

  • Defines the minimal set of operations which a QUIC implementation MUST expose to the application, introducing terms for them which don't rely on the specific wire formatting
  • Changes HTTP/3 to use these terms instead of referring to specific QUIC frames

Note that this doesn't remove all references to QUIC frames, but the remaining references are explanatory -- they describe what will happen at the transport layer after taking a particular action, rather than being part of the normative text. (But if you find one of these you think needs to go, please include that in this review.)

This is a design, because exposing this functionality is mandatory. I'm not sure how you would previously have created a usable QUIC implementation without these operations, but you weren't previously required to have them all.

Fixes #2805, closes #2677.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2857

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  • Required operations in Transport
  • HTTP rewords for newly-defined terms

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Thanks for doing this Mike, I have quite a few comments. > @@ -452,12 +452,12 @@ HTTP_INCOMPLETE_REQUEST. A server can send a complete response prior to the client sending an entire request if the response does not depend on any portion of the request that has -not been sent and received. When this is true, a server MAY request that the -client abort transmission of a request without error by triggering a QUIC -STOP_SENDING frame with error code HTTP_EARLY_RESPONSE, sending a complete -response, and cleanly closing its stream. Clients MUST NOT discard complete -responses as a result of having their request terminated abruptly, though -clients can always discard responses at their discretion for other reasons. +not been sent and received. When this is true, a server MAY abort reading the +receiving part of the request stream with error code HTTP_EARLY_RESPONSE, send a Do you think that we can just say "abort reading the request stream" and drop the "receiving part of" piece on the basis that "abort reading" can only apply to the receiving part? > @@ -505,11 +505,11 @@ this limit are not guaranteed to be accepted. ### Request Cancellation and Rejection {#request-cancellation} -Clients can cancel requests by aborting the stream (QUIC RESET_STREAM and/or -STOP_SENDING frames, as appropriate) with an error code of -HTTP_REQUEST_CANCELLED ({{http-error-codes}}). When the client cancels a -response, it indicates that this response is no longer of interest. -Implementations SHOULD cancel requests by aborting both directions of a stream. +Clients can cancel requests by abruptly terminating the sending part of the "abruptly terminating" or just "resetting" ? > @@ -1590,8 +1584,9 @@ the cause of a connection or stream error. ## HTTP/3 Error Codes {#http-error-codes} -The following error codes are defined for use in QUIC RESET_STREAM frames, -STOP_SENDING frames, and CONNECTION_CLOSE frames when using HTTP/3. +The following error codes are defined for use when abruptly terminating the +sending part of streams, aborting reading of the receiving part of streams, or As above regarding reference to "parts". > @@ -1718,8 +1713,8 @@ extension is disabled if the setting is omitted. The security considerations of HTTP/3 should be comparable to those of HTTP/2 with TLS. Note that where HTTP/2 employs PADDING frames and Padding fields in other frames to make a connection more resistant to traffic analysis, HTTP/3 can -rely on QUIC PADDING frames or employ the reserved frame and stream types -discussed in {{frame-grease}} and {{stream-grease}}. +either rely on transport-layer padding or employ the reserved frame and stream +types discussed in {{frame-grease}} and {{stream-grease}}. Aside: we should probably have a conversation about the trade-offs with padding. Transport-layer padding is in some ways superior, like in how it can be granular to a single byte, which reserved streams and frames cannot do. But PADDING frames at the transport aren't retransmitted when lost, which could lead to some interesting attacks if packets can be suppressed by an attacker. If retransmissions aren't padded, boom. > @@ -345,6 +345,31 @@ the relative priority of streams. When deciding which streams to dedicate resources to, the implementation SHOULD use the information provided by the application. +## Required Operations on Streams + +There are certain operations which an application MUST be able to perform when +interacting with QUIC streams. This document does not specify an API, but +any implementation of this version of QUIC MUST expose the ability to perform +the operations described in this section on a QUIC stream. + +On the sending part of a stream: + +- Attempt to write data, understanding when stream flow control credit List construction here implies continuation of a sentence, but the capital letter doesn't fit and there is no joiner. I think that you want: > On the sending part of a stream, application protocols need to be able to: > * write data, understanding when .... ({{frame-stop-sending}}); > * end the stream, ....; and > * reset the stream ... was already ended. > @@ -345,6 +345,31 @@ the relative priority of streams. When deciding which streams to dedicate resources to, the implementation SHOULD use the information provided by the application. +## Required Operations on Streams + +There are certain operations which an application MUST be able to perform when +interacting with QUIC streams. This document does not specify an API, but +any implementation of this version of QUIC MUST expose the ability to perform +the operations described in this section on a QUIC stream. + +On the sending part of a stream: + +- Attempt to write data, understanding when stream flow control credit + ({{data-flow-control}}) has successfully been reserved to send the written + data or possibly discovering that the stream has been closed because the peer I think that you might remove this "possibly discovering" clause. Then add a new separate paragraph after the lists that says that application protocols will want to be informed about stream state changes and events, including when data is available, when the stream ends, is reset, or reading has been aborted by a peer, and when new streams are created by a peer. As a general rule, I don't like having sections end on a list, so that would help with my little compulsion too. > @@ -1101,6 +1126,38 @@ suggested structure: --> +## Required Operations on Connections + +There are certain operations which an application MUST be able to perform when +interacting with the QUIC transport. This document does not specify an API, but +any implementation of this version of QUIC MUST expose the ability to perform +the operations described in this section on a QUIC connection. + +When implementing the client role: Same list construction comment as above. > @@ -1101,6 +1126,38 @@ suggested structure: --> +## Required Operations on Connections + +There are certain operations which an application MUST be able to perform when +interacting with the QUIC transport. This document does not specify an API, but +any implementation of this version of QUIC MUST expose the ability to perform +the operations described in this section on a QUIC connection. + +When implementing the client role: + +- Open a connection, which begins the exchange described in {{handshake}} Add: to enable 0-RTT, and to be informed when 0-RTT has been either accepted or rejected by a server. > +interacting with the QUIC transport. This document does not specify an API, but +any implementation of this version of QUIC MUST expose the ability to perform +the operations described in this section on a QUIC connection. + +When implementing the client role: + +- Open a connection, which begins the exchange described in {{handshake}} + +When implementing the server role: + +- Listen for incoming connections, which prepares for the exchange described in + {{handshake}} +- If Early Data is supported, embed application-controlled data in the TLS + resumption ticket sent to the client +- If Early Data is supported, retrieve application-controlled data from the + client's resumption ticket and approve/veto accepting Early Data and enable rejection of 0-RTT based on that information I don't like "veto" much here. And we don't need to have an active acceptance involved. > + +- Open a connection, which begins the exchange described in {{handshake}} + +When implementing the server role: + +- Listen for incoming connections, which prepares for the exchange described in + {{handshake}} +- If Early Data is supported, embed application-controlled data in the TLS + resumption ticket sent to the client +- If Early Data is supported, retrieve application-controlled data from the + client's resumption ticket and approve/veto accepting Early Data + +In either role: + +- Configure minimum values for the initial number of permitted streams of each + type, as communicated in the transport parameters ({{transport-parameters}}) I think that there is a more general point, which basically means controlling resource allocation of all types, including streams and flow control. The point you are looking at here - setting a minimum on the number of streams - is something HTTP needs, so I would add rather than replace. > + +- Listen for incoming connections, which prepares for the exchange described in + {{handshake}} +- If Early Data is supported, embed application-controlled data in the TLS + resumption ticket sent to the client +- If Early Data is supported, retrieve application-controlled data from the + client's resumption ticket and approve/veto accepting Early Data + +In either role: + +- Configure minimum values for the initial number of permitted streams of each + type, as communicated in the transport parameters ({{transport-parameters}}) +- Keep a connection from silently closing, either by generating PING frames + ({{frame-ping}}) or by requesting that the transport send additional frames + before the idle timeout expires ({{idle-timeout}}) +- Cease issuing credit for new streams via MAX_STREAMS frames See the above point about controlling resource allocation. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@martinthomson commented on this pull request.

Thanks for doing this Mike, I have quite a few comments.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -452,12 +452,12 @@ HTTP_INCOMPLETE_REQUEST.
 
 A server can send a complete response prior to the client sending an entire
 request if the response does not depend on any portion of the request that has
-not been sent and received. When this is true, a server MAY request that the
-client abort transmission of a request without error by triggering a QUIC
-STOP_SENDING frame with error code HTTP_EARLY_RESPONSE, sending a complete
-response, and cleanly closing its stream. Clients MUST NOT discard complete
-responses as a result of having their request terminated abruptly, though
-clients can always discard responses at their discretion for other reasons.
+not been sent and received. When this is true, a server MAY abort reading the
+receiving part of the request stream with error code HTTP_EARLY_RESPONSE, send a

Do you think that we can just say "abort reading the request stream" and drop the "receiving part of" piece on the basis that "abort reading" can only apply to the receiving part?

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -505,11 +505,11 @@ this limit are not guaranteed to be accepted.
 
 ### Request Cancellation and Rejection {#request-cancellation}
 
-Clients can cancel requests by aborting the stream (QUIC RESET_STREAM and/or
-STOP_SENDING frames, as appropriate) with an error code of
-HTTP_REQUEST_CANCELLED ({{http-error-codes}}).  When the client cancels a
-response, it indicates that this response is no longer of interest.
-Implementations SHOULD cancel requests by aborting both directions of a stream.
+Clients can cancel requests by abruptly terminating the sending part of the

"abruptly terminating" or just "resetting" ?

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1590,8 +1584,9 @@ the cause of a connection or stream error.
 
 ## HTTP/3 Error Codes {#http-error-codes}
 
-The following error codes are defined for use in QUIC RESET_STREAM frames,
-STOP_SENDING frames, and CONNECTION_CLOSE frames when using HTTP/3.
+The following error codes are defined for use when abruptly terminating the
+sending part of streams, aborting reading of the receiving part of streams, or

As above regarding reference to "parts".

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1718,8 +1713,8 @@ extension is disabled if the setting is omitted.
 The security considerations of HTTP/3 should be comparable to those of HTTP/2
 with TLS.  Note that where HTTP/2 employs PADDING frames and Padding fields in
 other frames to make a connection more resistant to traffic analysis, HTTP/3 can
-rely on QUIC PADDING frames or employ the reserved frame and stream types
-discussed in {{frame-grease}} and {{stream-grease}}.
+either rely on transport-layer padding or employ the reserved frame and stream
+types discussed in {{frame-grease}} and {{stream-grease}}.

Aside: we should probably have a conversation about the trade-offs with padding. Transport-layer padding is in some ways superior, like in how it can be granular to a single byte, which reserved streams and frames cannot do. But PADDING frames at the transport aren't retransmitted when lost, which could lead to some interesting attacks if packets can be suppressed by an attacker. If retransmissions aren't padded, boom.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -345,6 +345,31 @@ the relative priority of streams.  When deciding which streams to dedicate
 resources to, the implementation SHOULD use the information provided by the
 application.
 
+## Required Operations on Streams
+
+There are certain operations which an application MUST be able to perform when
+interacting with QUIC streams.  This document does not specify an API, but
+any implementation of this version of QUIC MUST expose the ability to perform
+the operations described in this section on a QUIC stream.
+
+On the sending part of a stream:
+
+- Attempt to write data, understanding when stream flow control credit

List construction here implies continuation of a sentence, but the capital letter doesn't fit and there is no joiner.

I think that you want:

On the sending part of a stream, application protocols need to be able to:

  • write data, understanding when .... ({{frame-stop-sending}});
  • end the stream, ....; and
  • reset the stream ... was already ended.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -345,6 +345,31 @@ the relative priority of streams.  When deciding which streams to dedicate
 resources to, the implementation SHOULD use the information provided by the
 application.
 
+## Required Operations on Streams
+
+There are certain operations which an application MUST be able to perform when
+interacting with QUIC streams.  This document does not specify an API, but
+any implementation of this version of QUIC MUST expose the ability to perform
+the operations described in this section on a QUIC stream.
+
+On the sending part of a stream:
+
+- Attempt to write data, understanding when stream flow control credit
+  ({{data-flow-control}}) has successfully been reserved to send the written
+  data or possibly discovering that the stream has been closed because the peer

I think that you might remove this "possibly discovering" clause. Then add a new separate paragraph after the lists that says that application protocols will want to be informed about stream state changes and events, including when data is available, when the stream ends, is reset, or reading has been aborted by a peer, and when new streams are created by a peer.

As a general rule, I don't like having sections end on a list, so that would help with my little compulsion too.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1101,6 +1126,38 @@ suggested structure:
 -->
 
 
+## Required Operations on Connections
+
+There are certain operations which an application MUST be able to perform when
+interacting with the QUIC transport.  This document does not specify an API, but
+any implementation of this version of QUIC MUST expose the ability to perform
+the operations described in this section on a QUIC connection.
+
+When implementing the client role:

Same list construction comment as above.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1101,6 +1126,38 @@ suggested structure:
 -->
 
 
+## Required Operations on Connections
+
+There are certain operations which an application MUST be able to perform when
+interacting with the QUIC transport.  This document does not specify an API, but
+any implementation of this version of QUIC MUST expose the ability to perform
+the operations described in this section on a QUIC connection.
+
+When implementing the client role:
+
+- Open a connection, which begins the exchange described in {{handshake}}

Add: to enable 0-RTT, and to be informed when 0-RTT has been either accepted or rejected by a server.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +interacting with the QUIC transport.  This document does not specify an API, but
+any implementation of this version of QUIC MUST expose the ability to perform
+the operations described in this section on a QUIC connection.
+
+When implementing the client role:
+
+- Open a connection, which begins the exchange described in {{handshake}}
+
+When implementing the server role:
+
+- Listen for incoming connections, which prepares for the exchange described in
+  {{handshake}}
+- If Early Data is supported, embed application-controlled data in the TLS
+  resumption ticket sent to the client
+- If Early Data is supported, retrieve application-controlled data from the
+  client's resumption ticket and approve/veto accepting Early Data

and enable rejection of 0-RTT based on that information

I don't like "veto" much here. And we don't need to have an active acceptance involved.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+- Open a connection, which begins the exchange described in {{handshake}}
+
+When implementing the server role:
+
+- Listen for incoming connections, which prepares for the exchange described in
+  {{handshake}}
+- If Early Data is supported, embed application-controlled data in the TLS
+  resumption ticket sent to the client
+- If Early Data is supported, retrieve application-controlled data from the
+  client's resumption ticket and approve/veto accepting Early Data
+
+In either role:
+
+- Configure minimum values for the initial number of permitted streams of each
+  type, as communicated in the transport parameters ({{transport-parameters}})

I think that there is a more general point, which basically means controlling resource allocation of all types, including streams and flow control.

The point you are looking at here - setting a minimum on the number of streams - is something HTTP needs, so I would add rather than replace.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+- Listen for incoming connections, which prepares for the exchange described in
+  {{handshake}}
+- If Early Data is supported, embed application-controlled data in the TLS
+  resumption ticket sent to the client
+- If Early Data is supported, retrieve application-controlled data from the
+  client's resumption ticket and approve/veto accepting Early Data
+
+In either role:
+
+- Configure minimum values for the initial number of permitted streams of each
+  type, as communicated in the transport parameters ({{transport-parameters}})
+- Keep a connection from silently closing, either by generating PING frames
+  ({{frame-ping}}) or by requesting that the transport send additional frames
+  before the idle timeout expires ({{idle-timeout}})
+- Cease issuing credit for new streams via MAX_STREAMS frames

See the above point about controlling resource allocation.

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@mikkelfj commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +- Attempt to write data, understanding when stream flow control credit
+  ({{data-flow-control}}) has successfully been reserved to send the written
+  data or possibly discovering that the stream has been closed because the peer
+  sent a STOP_SENDING frame ({{frame-stop-sending}})
+- Cleanly terminate the stream, resulting in a STREAM frame ({{frame-stream}})
+  with the FIN bit set
+- Abruptly terminate the stream, resulting in a RESET_STREAM frame
+  ({{frame-reset-stream}}), even if the stream was cleanly terminated previously
+
+On the receiving part of a stream:
+
+- Attempt to read data, possibly discovering that the peer has terminated the
+  stream either cleanly or abruptly
+- Abort reading of the stream and request closure, resulting in a STOP_SENDING
+  frame ({{frame-stop-sending}})
+

This could be read as if aborting a stream should always result in a STOP_SENDING frame, but I don't think that that is necessarily true. I understand that the ability to do so is important though.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+- Listen for incoming connections, which prepares for the exchange described in
+  {{handshake}}
+- If Early Data is supported, embed application-controlled data in the TLS
+  resumption ticket sent to the client
+- If Early Data is supported, retrieve application-controlled data from the
+  client's resumption ticket and approve/veto accepting Early Data
+
+In either role:
+
+- Configure minimum values for the initial number of permitted streams of each
+  type, as communicated in the transport parameters ({{transport-parameters}})
+- Keep a connection from silently closing, either by generating PING frames
+  ({{frame-ping}}) or by requesting that the transport send additional frames
+  before the idle timeout expires ({{idle-timeout}})
+- Cease issuing credit for new streams via MAX_STREAMS frames

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@kazuho commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -633,18 +633,22 @@ tree could be discarded safely. Clients could potentially reference closed
 streams long after the server had discarded state, leading to disparate views of
 the prioritization the client had attempted to express.
 
-In HTTP/3, a number of placeholders are explicitly permitted by the server using
-the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` setting. Because the server commits to
-maintaining these placeholders in the prioritization tree, clients can use them
-with confidence that the server will not have discarded the state. Clients MUST
-NOT send the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` setting; receipt of this setting by a
-server MUST be treated as a connection error of type
+In HTTP/3, by using the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` setting, the server
+advertises the number of client-controlled placeholders for which it is
+committing to maintain state.  Client-controlled placeholders are given their
+own number space that spans between zero and 2^62-1.  Clients can use the
+client-controlled placeholders with an ID less than the value of this setting
+with the confidence that the server will not have discarded the state.  The

Thank you for the suggestion. Applied in 47abc99 (changing "of the placeholder" to "of these placeholders").

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When +receiving a PRIORITY frame with its prioritized element set to such a +placeholder, the server SHOULD discard the frame without making any change to This certainly depends on acknowledging that servers can set SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS to zero. If we look at HTTP/2 implementations, it is my understanding that browsers tend to give higher weight values to resources of higher precedence, regardless of their position in the prioritization tree. This works somewhat reasonably as a fallback when connecting to a server that respects the weights only, because resources of higher precedence would be given more bandwidths that those of lower precedence. Recommending (or acknowledging) that SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS to be 0 or at least 32 allows a client implementation to consider only two ways of server prioritizing the responses: one being the server respecting the tree build by the client, the other being the tree squeezed and only the weight values being respected. IMO knowing that the servers are likely to view the prioritization information in either of these two ways is highly preferable for enabling a client to use one design for the prioritization tree it builds _regardless of the value of SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS_, which is IMO the primary goal of this PR. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2761#discussion_r298456876 ----==_mimepart_5d15a4eeb5e18_66e33fce558cd9681867f7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1224,9 +1228,17 @@ The following situations are examples of invalid PRIORITY frames:
 A PRIORITY frame with Empty bits not set to zero MAY be treated as a connection
 error of type HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME.
 
-A PRIORITY frame that references a non-existent Push ID, a Placeholder ID
-greater than the server's limit, or a Stream ID the client is not yet permitted
-to open MUST be treated as a connection error of type HTTP_LIMIT_EXCEEDED.
+A PRIORITY frame that references a non-existent Push ID or a Stream ID the
+client is not yet permitted to open MUST be treated as a connection error of
+type HTTP_LIMIT_EXCEEDED.
+
+A PRIORITY frame MAY reference a Placeholder ID that is equal to or greater than
+the server's advertised value of the `SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS` settings.  When
+receiving a PRIORITY frame with its prioritized element set to such a
+placeholder, the server SHOULD discard the frame without making any change to

This certainly depends on acknowledging that servers can set SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS to zero.

If we look at HTTP/2 implementations, it is my understanding that browsers tend to give higher weight values to resources of higher precedence, regardless of their position in the prioritization tree. This works somewhat reasonably as a fallback when connecting to a server that respects the weights only, because resources of higher precedence would be given more bandwidths that those of lower precedence.

Recommending (or acknowledging) that SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS to be 0 or at least 32 allows a client implementation to consider only two ways of server prioritizing the responses: one being the server respecting the tree build by the client, the other being the tree squeezed and only the weight values being respected.

IMO knowing that the servers are likely to view the prioritization information in either of these two ways is highly preferable for enabling a client to use one design for the prioritization tree it builds regardless of the value of SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS, which is IMO the primary goal of this PR.

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According to https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-http.html#request-response, a bidirectional HTTP stream can have at least one HEADERS frame (exactly one if the stream is client-initiated), zero or more DATA frames, then zero or one HEADERS frame, in this order. Handling the receipt of frames that does not conform to this requirement is inconsistent:

(1) If a DATA frame is received before any other frame, that's an error:

If a DATA frame is received before a HEADERS frame [...], the recipient MUST respond with a connection error of type HTTP_UNEXPECTED_FRAME [...].

(2) If the trailing HEADERS frame is followed by another HEADERS frame, that is to be discarded:

Trailing header fields are carried in an additional HEADERS frame following the body. Senders MUST send only one HEADERS frame in the trailers section; receivers MUST discard any subsequent HEADERS frames.

(3) There is no guidance on how to handle a DATA frame after the trailing headers.

I suggest that every violation to this requirement should be an error. (I do not feel strongly whether a connection error like (1) is handled right now, or a stream error. The implementation I am contributing to will promote most stream errors to connection errors regardless.)

Note that (2) comes from the technical limitation that header blocks needed to be processed, which is not the case any longer with QPACK. It just seems like that when the requirement to decode the header block was removed at 404c5b8, adding the requirement to signal an error was not in scope of that commit.

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----==_mimepart_5d162b31e50e9_66e13fe9952cd96827189b-- From nobody Fri Jun 28 08:09:39 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DA1E12030A for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2019 08:09:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mzAO3ugBSq-W for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2019 08:09:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 654E31202F8 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2019 08:09:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 08:09:32 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561734573; bh=Mku86MJ1oPYQl3emlzs1hKX3SOLbvF2k93m2A4ZOTVY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=iDn6FbPUXK5ZB4J7Hdo+thXZ7Af1OU2zXm6uf2gDi8Mc/85HrqRaJTHM3vu5pVO6W DEqYiERJZ4QWYoPEGumAGOP7LlM7udR9wK9nfQcFXHWe5mdBnsJUk0zWvGUev5uF7E lunUU7vzGjt7/1Vh/qJ1f+eIaX75mtQgZhp2xWG0= From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Signal error upon receipt of multiple trailing HEADERS (#2858) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d162dacecb7d_631f3fe622ccd95c2621d8"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 15:09:37 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d162dacecb7d_631f3fe622ccd95c2621d8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree with @bencebeky . > If a DATA frame is received before a HEADERS frame [...], the recipient MUST respond with a connection error of type HTTP_UNEXPECTED_FRAME [...]. If you read that requirement a certain way, then any use of trailers will blow up the connection :) I think we could rewrite this text to be clearer about when DATA frames are expected to be received. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2858#issuecomment-506769036 ----==_mimepart_5d162dacecb7d_631f3fe622ccd95c2621d8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I agree with @bencebeky .

If a DATA frame is received before a HEADERS frame [...], the recipient MUST respond with a connection error of type HTTP_UNEXPECTED_FRAME [...].

If you read that requirement a certain way, then any use of trailers will blow up the connection :) I think we could rewrite this text to be clearer about when DATA frames are expected to be received.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+- Listen for incoming connections, which prepares for the exchange described in
+  {{handshake}}
+- If Early Data is supported, embed application-controlled data in the TLS
+  resumption ticket sent to the client
+- If Early Data is supported, retrieve application-controlled data from the
+  client's resumption ticket and approve/veto accepting Early Data
+
+In either role:
+
+- Configure minimum values for the initial number of permitted streams of each
+  type, as communicated in the transport parameters ({{transport-parameters}})
+- Keep a connection from silently closing, either by generating PING frames
+  ({{frame-ping}}) or by requesting that the transport send additional frames
+  before the idle timeout expires ({{idle-timeout}})
+- Cease issuing credit for new streams via MAX_STREAMS frames

The only place where this is required by HTTP is to support GOAWAY; I'd argue that the ability to stop is required, and the ability to resume is something an implementation could choose to expose.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +- Attempt to write data, understanding when stream flow control credit
+  ({{data-flow-control}}) has successfully been reserved to send the written
+  data or possibly discovering that the stream has been closed because the peer
+  sent a STOP_SENDING frame ({{frame-stop-sending}})
+- Cleanly terminate the stream, resulting in a STREAM frame ({{frame-stream}})
+  with the FIN bit set
+- Abruptly terminate the stream, resulting in a RESET_STREAM frame
+  ({{frame-reset-stream}}), even if the stream was cleanly terminated previously
+
+On the receiving part of a stream:
+
+- Attempt to read data, possibly discovering that the peer has terminated the
+  stream either cleanly or abruptly
+- Abort reading of the stream and request closure, resulting in a STOP_SENDING
+  frame ({{frame-stop-sending}})
+

It's always true if the recipient hasn't already received through the end of the stream. But yes, I'll try to expand on it. It might be worth reframing some things in the transport doc to work in terms of acting on these requests from the application.

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Good points. Let's continue tightening down the screws. :-)

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Fixes #2148.

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(#2153) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d165f715fb72_16293fb2776cd964797cc"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 18:41:56 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d165f715fb72_16293fb2776cd964797cc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does this require text? The explanation of how it might not be deterministic (from the client's perspective) is already present in the preceding sections. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Does this require text? The explanation of how it might not be deterministic (from the client's perspective) is already present in the preceding sections.

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The performance of HTTP/3 connections in the early phase of their lifetime is sensitive to the creation and exchange of data on unidirectional streams. -Endpoints that set low values for the QUIC transport parameters -`initial_max_uni_streams` and `initial_max_stream_data_uni` will increase the -chance that the remote peer reaches the limit early and becomes blocked. In -particular, the value chosen for `initial_max_uni_streams` should consider that -remote peers may wish to exercise reserved stream behavior ({{stream-grease}}). -To avoid blocking, both clients and servers MUST allow the peer to create at -least one unidirectional stream for the HTTP control stream plus the number of -unidirectional streams required by mandatory extensions (such as QPACK) by -setting an appropriate value for the QUIC transport parameter -`initial_max_uni_streams` (three being the minimum value required for the base -HTTP/3 protocol and QPACK), and SHOULD use a value of 1,024 or greater for the -QUIC transport parameter `initial_max_stream_data_uni`. +Endpoints that excessively restrict the number or flow control window of these This reads weird to me, my brain keeps thinking "or" is a typo for "of", which is untrue. I think it could read better to say "Endpoints that excessively restrict the number of these streams or the size of each stream's flow control window will increase the chance that the remote peer reaches the limit early and becomes blocked." > -least one unidirectional stream for the HTTP control stream plus the number of -unidirectional streams required by mandatory extensions (such as QPACK) by -setting an appropriate value for the QUIC transport parameter -`initial_max_uni_streams` (three being the minimum value required for the base -HTTP/3 protocol and QPACK), and SHOULD use a value of 1,024 or greater for the -QUIC transport parameter `initial_max_stream_data_uni`. +Endpoints that excessively restrict the number or flow control window of these +streams will increase the chance that the remote peer reaches the limit early +and becomes blocked. In particular, implementations should consider that remote +peers may wish to exercise reserved stream behavior ({{stream-grease}}) with +some of the unidirectional streams they are permitted to use. To avoid blocking, +both clients and servers MUST allow the peer to create at least one +unidirectional stream for the HTTP control stream plus the number of +unidirectional streams required by mandatory extensions (three being the minimum +number required for the base HTTP/3 protocol and QPACK), and SHOULD provide at +least 1,024 bytes of flow control credit to each stream. observation: the change to remove references to Transport Parameters in this paragraph could lead to some interesting unintended issues. Previously it was clear that the problems mentioned were related to small values of initial limits (imposed by TPs). One way to interpet the new text is that it is ok to advertise low values in TPs as long as you send MAX_STREAMS or MAX_STREAM_DATA. 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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -962,18 +960,16 @@ see {{extensions}} for more details.
 
 The performance of HTTP/3 connections in the early phase of their lifetime is
 sensitive to the creation and exchange of data on unidirectional streams.
-Endpoints that set low values for the QUIC transport parameters
-`initial_max_uni_streams` and `initial_max_stream_data_uni` will increase the
-chance that the remote peer reaches the limit early and becomes blocked. In
-particular, the value chosen for `initial_max_uni_streams` should consider that
-remote peers may wish to exercise reserved stream behavior ({{stream-grease}}).
-To avoid blocking, both clients and servers MUST allow the peer to create at
-least one unidirectional stream for the HTTP control stream plus the number of
-unidirectional streams required by mandatory extensions (such as QPACK) by
-setting an appropriate value for the QUIC transport parameter
-`initial_max_uni_streams` (three being the minimum value required for the base
-HTTP/3 protocol and QPACK), and SHOULD use a value of 1,024 or greater for the
-QUIC transport parameter `initial_max_stream_data_uni`.
+Endpoints that excessively restrict the number or flow control window of these

This reads weird to me, my brain keeps thinking "or" is a typo for "of", which is untrue. I think it could read better to say

"Endpoints that excessively restrict the number of these streams or the size of each stream's flow control window will increase the chance that the remote peer reaches the limit early and becomes blocked."

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> -least one unidirectional stream for the HTTP control stream plus the number of
-unidirectional streams required by mandatory extensions (such as QPACK) by
-setting an appropriate value for the QUIC transport parameter
-`initial_max_uni_streams` (three being the minimum value required for the base
-HTTP/3 protocol and QPACK), and SHOULD use a value of 1,024 or greater for the
-QUIC transport parameter `initial_max_stream_data_uni`.
+Endpoints that excessively restrict the number or flow control window of these
+streams will increase the chance that the remote peer reaches the limit early
+and becomes blocked. In particular, implementations should consider that remote
+peers may wish to exercise reserved stream behavior ({{stream-grease}}) with
+some of the unidirectional streams they are permitted to use. To avoid blocking,
+both clients and servers MUST allow the peer to create at least one
+unidirectional stream for the HTTP control stream plus the number of
+unidirectional streams required by mandatory extensions (three being the minimum
+number required for the base HTTP/3 protocol and QPACK), and SHOULD provide at
+least 1,024 bytes of flow control credit to each stream.

observation: the change to remove references to Transport Parameters in this paragraph could lead to some interesting unintended issues. Previously it was clear that the problems mentioned were related to small values of initial limits (imposed by TPs). One way to interpet the new text is that it is ok to advertise low values in TPs as long as you send MAX_STREAMS or MAX_STREAM_DATA.

Just wondering if that was the intent of this change, given some of the problems we've seen with these values during interop.

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Closes #2861.

Since #1350 empty STREAM frames are valid.

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There's a loss pattern that QUIC cannot recover from:
Assume client and server perform a handshake up to the point just after the server received the ClientFinished message. No packet loss happens so far. Both peers have now completed (but not yet confirmed) the handshake.

Right after sending the ClientFinished, the client sends a 1-RTT packet (e.g. containing application data). This packet is lost. The server sends an acknowledgement for the ClientFinished (in a Handshake packet), and this packet is lost as well. Furthermore, the server also sends a 1-RTT packet (e.g. containing a session ticket). This packet is successfully received and acknowledged by the client.

At this point the endpoint are in the following state: Since it received an acknowledgement for a packet sent with 1-RTT keys, the server now confirmed the handshake, and drops the Handshake keys. On the other hand, the client is still waiting for an acknowledgement for the ClientFinished, and retransmits it. It will however never receive an acknowledgement, since the server dropped the keys already.

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A server can send a 1-RTT packet before even completing the handshake, so a client receiving one doesn't mean anything.

In this scenario, the client will continue retransmitting the last cryptographic handshake flight. That sounds terrible. But if it ever has cause to send 1-RTT data (as it does in Marten's example, which I'm not sure is relevant), then it will retransmit that data on PTO. When that is eventually acknowledged, that will confirm the handshake.

The more troublesome scenario is where the client sends nothing, only acknowledgments. In that case the client will have a complete handshake that cannot be confirmed.

Would it be enough to say that "unless an endpoint sends some ack-eliciting data in 1-RTT packets, the handshake might remain unconfirmed indefinitely" and leave it at that?

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(#2153) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d194fd6cdb19_66103fc80c4cd95c1500226"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2019 00:12:10 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d194fd6cdb19_66103fc80c4cd95c1500226 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm going to punt this back to a potential design issue, requiring of a consensus call. Why? Because I think that the right answer is to explicitly permit endpoints to discard packets that are too small. I'm recommending removal of the deterministic text in the process, for the reasons implicit in Mike's comments. The rest should sort itself. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2153#issuecomment-507078955 ----==_mimepart_5d194fd6cdb19_66103fc80c4cd95c1500226 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I'm going to punt this back to a potential design issue, requiring of a consensus call. Why? Because I think that the right answer is to explicitly permit endpoints to discard packets that are too small.

I'm recommending removal of the deterministic text in the process, for the reasons implicit in Mike's comments. The rest should sort itself.

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----==_mimepart_5d194fd6cdb19_66103fc80c4cd95c1500226-- From nobody Sun Jun 30 17:12:19 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F1EB1201DA for ; Sun, 30 Jun 2019 17:12:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id h8lo3p6-Pver for ; Sun, 30 Jun 2019 17:12:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD25B1201D4 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 2019 17:12:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2019 17:12:14 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561939934; bh=VupN2nX9YhBkewIxlrWwSerUhBlBI4+uX0ySYGRDoWg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=YfPlI9W1iFgPnWj1CDJCHdrAvZeQiRcQhUnB15587pWGyr5AAvNnwfopPOCmGma5K Q0Kwf/eir1HeU2XjMmpdH1wSTzO/GJ2N5Ds3/ytdmR6gsUVz7GnGdwMGmA8cNpWYKv N+Ffb2ZBf9l2E0NrmeMuvovKkw5wsldhGI6hWU+o= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Explicitly allow discard of packets <40 bytes (#2864) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d194fdea3894_60853fdb6b8cd9681201571"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2019 00:12:17 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d194fdea3894_60853fdb6b8cd9681201571 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The stateless reset text implied a lot, but never really explicitly said what to do when going below the minimum recommended size. This is a design change to an issue marked editorial. Enjoy. Closes #2153. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2864 -- Commit Summary -- * Explicitly allow discard of packets <40 bytes -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (6) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2864.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2864.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2864 ----==_mimepart_5d194fdea3894_60853fdb6b8cd9681201571 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The stateless reset text implied a lot, but never really explicitly said
what to do when going below the minimum recommended size.

This is a design change to an issue marked editorial. Enjoy.

Closes #2153.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2864

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FWIW, the state that was implied was the creation of a new connection. That's not realistic in QUICv1 however, so this is good.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2525,9 +2526,6 @@ a small packet might result in Stateless Reset not being useful in detecting
 cases of broken connections where only very small packets are sent; such
 failures might only be detected by other means, such as timers.
 
-An endpoint can increase the odds that a packet will trigger a Stateless Reset

Why did you remove this sentence?

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In this scenario, the client will continue retransmitting the last cryptographic handshake flight. That sounds terrible. But if it ever has cause to send 1-RTT data (as it does in Marten's example, which I'm not sure is relevant), then it will retransmit that data on PTO. When that is eventually acknowledged, that will confirm the handshake.

Agreed. IIRC, the assumption in the design team was that the client would have something to send.

Would it be enough to say that "unless an endpoint sends some ack-eliciting data in 1-RTT packets, the handshake might remain unconfirmed indefinitely" and leave it at that?

+1. We may hint that "a client MAY send a PING packet to confirm the handshake."

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2525,9 +2526,6 @@ a small packet might result in Stateless Reset not being useful in detecting
 cases of broken connections where only very small packets are sent; such
 failures might only be detected by other means, such as timers.
 
-An endpoint can increase the odds that a packet will trigger a Stateless Reset

See #2153. Or were you asking for it to be retained?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2525,9 +2526,6 @@ a small packet might result in Stateless Reset not being useful in detecting
 cases of broken connections where only very small packets are sent; such
 failures might only be detected by other means, such as timers.
 
-An endpoint can increase the odds that a packet will trigger a Stateless Reset

Yes. I think it's a good idea to always send a packet padded to > 40 bytes after quiescence, so you'd be able to quickly recover by receiving the stateless reset.

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But if it ever has cause to send 1-RTT data (as it does in Marten's example, which I'm not sure is relevant), then it will retransmit that data on PTO.

@martinthomson Unfortunately, that wouldn't work. As long as the client has outstanding crypto data, it will only retransmit the crypto packets, see https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-recovery.html#rfc.appendix.A.9.

+1. We may hint that "a client MAY send a PING packet to confirm the handshake."

@kazuho Agreed, although I'd prefer a SHOULD here.

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FWIW, what I had in mind was something like "once the handshake is complete, endpoints SHOULD send ack-eliciting packets to confirm the handshake. If there is no application data to be sent, such packets can contain PING frames."

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Would it be enough to say that "unless an endpoint sends some ack-eliciting data in 1-RTT packets, the handshake might remain unconfirmed indefinitely" and leave it at that?

No i think the state needs to progress. Resources might be tied up and timeouts might be in place to weed out bad handshakes before a longer or indefinite idle timeout.

I would say the client MUST send at least one ack-eliciting 1-RTT packet once it is able to do so, and within, say, 1 PTO.

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Because I think that the right answer is to explicitly permit endpoints to discard packets that are too small.

Yes, but I still suggest it can respond on some safe random fraction of these.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -994,6 +994,19 @@ packets sent from only one local address.  An endpoint that migrates away from a
 local address SHOULD retire all connection IDs used on that address once it no
 longer plans to use that address.
 
+An endpoint can request that its peer retire connection IDs by sending a
+NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame with an increased Retire Prior To field.  Upon receipt,
+the peer SHOULD retire the corresponding connection IDs and send the
+corresponding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames in a timely manner.  Failing to do so
+can cause packets to be delayed, lost, or cause the original endpoint to send a
+stateless reset in response to a connection ID it can no longer route correctly.
+
+An endpoint MAY discard a connection ID for which retirement has been requested
+once an interval of no less than 3 PTO has elapsed since an acknowledgement is
+received for the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame requesting that retirement.  Subsequent
+incoming packets using that connection ID will elicit a response with the

You want to say "Subsequent incoming packets using that connection ID MAY elicit a response with the corresponding stateless reset token."

Note that both behaviors are possible: MAY drop packets silently (misrouted, for example), and/or MAY elicit a stateless reset.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -994,6 +994,19 @@ packets sent from only one local address.  An endpoint that migrates away from a
 local address SHOULD retire all connection IDs used on that address once it no
 longer plans to use that address.
 
+An endpoint can request that its peer retire connection IDs by sending a
+NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame with an increased Retire Prior To field.  Upon receipt,
+the peer SHOULD retire the corresponding connection IDs and send the
+corresponding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames in a timely manner.  Failing to do so
+can cause packets to be delayed, lost, or cause the original endpoint to send a
+stateless reset in response to a connection ID it can no longer route correctly.
+
+An endpoint MAY discard a connection ID for which retirement has been requested
+once an interval of no less than 3 PTO has elapsed since an acknowledgement is
+received for the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame requesting that retirement.  Subsequent
+incoming packets using that connection ID will elicit a response with the

If by "MAY" you mean "could", that makes sense. "MAY" in the sense of permitting something, is not really in question here.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -received packet that contains frames other than ACK and PADDING frames.
-An endpoint MUST NOT send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response
-to a packet containing only ACK or PADDING frames, even if there are packet
-gaps which precede the received packet. This prevents an indefinite feedback
-loop of ACKs. The endpoint MUST however acknowledge packets containing only
-ACK or PADDING frames when sending ACK frames in response to other packets.
+Packets containing only ACK frames are not congestion controlled, so there are
+limits on how frequently they can be sent.  An endpoint MUST NOT send more than
+one packet containing only an ACK frame per received ACK-eliciting packet
+(one containing frames other than ACK and/or PADDING).  An endpoint MUST NOT
+send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response to a non-ACK-eliciting
+packet (one containing only ACK and/or PADDING frames), even if there are
+packet gaps which precede the received packet. This prevents an indefinite
+feedback loop of acknowledgements, which may prevent the connection from ever
+becoming idle. The endpoint MUST however acknowledge non-ACK-eliciting packets
+when sending ACK frames in response to other packets.

Is "The endpoint MUST however acknowledge non-ACK-eliciting packets when sending ACK frames in response to other packets." necessary? This is simply saying that ACK frames should ACK received packets.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2859,13 +2859,16 @@ valid frames? -->
 
 ### Sending ACK Frames
 
-An endpoint MUST NOT send more than one packet containing only an ACK frame per
-received packet that contains frames other than ACK and PADDING frames.
-An endpoint MUST NOT send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response
-to a packet containing only ACK or PADDING frames, even if there are packet
-gaps which precede the received packet. This prevents an indefinite feedback
-loop of ACKs. The endpoint MUST however acknowledge packets containing only
-ACK or PADDING frames when sending ACK frames in response to other packets.
+Packets containing only ACK frames are not congestion controlled, so there are
+limits on how frequently they can be sent.  An endpoint MUST NOT send more than
+one packet containing only an ACK frame per received ACK-eliciting packet
+(one containing frames other than ACK and/or PADDING).  An endpoint MUST NOT
+send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response to a non-ACK-eliciting

So if the stack really wants to ACK some non-ACK-eliciting packet, ACK+PING is ok? And if ACK+PING is not ok, then ACK+MAX_DATA(repeat latest value) is ok?

My point is that maybe this MUST ought to be replaced with a SHOULD to avoid people having to play these games, when they really want to do so. (SHOULD still means do it unless you have a great reason not to.)

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2883,16 +2886,21 @@ needing acknowledgement are received.  The sender can use the receiver's
 Strategies and implications of the frequency of generating acknowledgments are
 discussed in more detail in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.
 
+An endpoint that is only sending acknowledgements will not receive
+acknowledgments from its peer unless those acknowledgements are included in
+packets with ACK-eliciting frames.  A sender SHOULD bundle ACK frames with
+other frames when possible.

How often do you send an ACK frame when you aren't receiving ACK-eliciting packets?

The text above ("An endpoint MUST NOT send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response to a non-ACK-eliciting packet") suggests a resolute "never", unless you bundle it with some useless ACK-eliciting frame. (See my comment above.)

The text here is suggesting that when a stack is sending a packet with an ACK-ecliciting frame, it should include an ACK frame for the previously unacknowledged non-ACK-eliciting packet.

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