From nobody Mon Jul 1 00:09:10 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68A9512021B for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2019 00:09:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vLAJRLJm_xJO for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2019 00:09:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E3C912000E for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2019 00:09:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2019 00:09:06 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561964946; bh=Fp9TS/uctgxR/RWReiUT/MoDwt7XTE0gk1NOGe9Ppj0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=EUnLyPGatx0D/RbaDT1kTWZFtR0nS6FK+AePDeHNiSrizpNBzLeGieovZpyrBUCzZ aeg+AjI9e68fHmKx6bgNfuRGuyr3eH1rUjsW5GqAuPZz0/ncbtiQS/5laLnUMD9lw4 gI0InxUkdofkZcGue5seN13FVzW5Q+u8pgHNNEwg= From: Igor Lubashev Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clarify ACK of ACKs and bundling a PING (#2794) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d19b19248874_3d423fe9ad2cd964864448"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: igorlord X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2019 07:09:09 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d19b19248874_3d423fe9ad2cd964864448 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit igorlord commented on this pull request. > To limit ACK Ranges (see {{ack-ranges}}) to those that have not yet been received by the sender, the receiver SHOULD track which ACK frames have been acknowledged by its peer. The receiver SHOULD exclude already acknowledged packets from future ACK frames whenever these packets would unnecessarily -contribute to the ACK frame size. - -Because ACK frames are not sent in response to ACK-only packets, a receiver that -is only sending ACK frames will only receive acknowledgements for its packets if -the sender includes them in packets with non-ACK frames. A sender SHOULD bundle -ACK frames with other frames when possible. +contribute to the ACK frame size. When the receiver is only sending +non-ACK-eliciting packets, it can bundle a PING with a fraction of them, such By the way, the PING has an additional behavior requirement that it is ACKed ASAP, unlike other ACK-eliciting frames. Bundling a PING forces the other endpoint to be slightly less efficient in its packet sending. There are other alternatives/hacks like MAX_DATA(repeat latest value) that elicits ACKs but does not imply immediacy (and since it is a repeat, it does not require retransmission on loss, just like PING). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2794#pullrequestreview-256163087 ----==_mimepart_5d19b19248874_3d423fe9ad2cd964864448 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  To limit ACK Ranges (see {{ack-ranges}}) to those that have not yet been
 received by the sender, the receiver SHOULD track which ACK frames have been
 acknowledged by its peer. The receiver SHOULD exclude already acknowledged
 packets from future ACK frames whenever these packets would unnecessarily
-contribute to the ACK frame size.
-
-Because ACK frames are not sent in response to ACK-only packets, a receiver that
-is only sending ACK frames will only receive acknowledgements for its packets if
-the sender includes them in packets with non-ACK frames.  A sender SHOULD bundle
-ACK frames with other frames when possible.
+contribute to the ACK frame size.  When the receiver is only sending
+non-ACK-eliciting packets, it can bundle a PING with a fraction of them, such

By the way, the PING has an additional behavior requirement that it is ACKed ASAP, unlike other ACK-eliciting frames. Bundling a PING forces the other endpoint to be slightly less efficient in its packet sending. There are other alternatives/hacks like MAX_DATA(repeat latest value) that elicits ACKs but does not imply immediacy (and since it is a repeat, it does not require retransmission on loss, just like PING).

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -994,6 +994,19 @@ packets sent from only one local address.  An endpoint that migrates away from a
 local address SHOULD retire all connection IDs used on that address once it no
 longer plans to use that address.
 
+An endpoint can request that its peer retire connection IDs by sending a
+NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame with an increased Retire Prior To field.  Upon receipt,
+the peer SHOULD retire the corresponding connection IDs and send the
+corresponding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames in a timely manner.  Failing to do so
+can cause packets to be delayed, lost, or cause the original endpoint to send a
+stateless reset in response to a connection ID it can no longer route correctly.
+
+An endpoint MAY discard a connection ID for which retirement has been requested
+once an interval of no less than 3 PTO has elapsed since an acknowledgement is
+received for the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame requesting that retirement.  Subsequent
+incoming packets using that connection ID will elicit a response with the

Yes, that's right.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -received packet that contains frames other than ACK and PADDING frames.
-An endpoint MUST NOT send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response
-to a packet containing only ACK or PADDING frames, even if there are packet
-gaps which precede the received packet. This prevents an indefinite feedback
-loop of ACKs. The endpoint MUST however acknowledge packets containing only
-ACK or PADDING frames when sending ACK frames in response to other packets.
+Packets containing only ACK frames are not congestion controlled, so there are
+limits on how frequently they can be sent.  An endpoint MUST NOT send more than
+one packet containing only an ACK frame per received ACK-eliciting packet
+(one containing frames other than ACK and/or PADDING).  An endpoint MUST NOT
+send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response to a non-ACK-eliciting
+packet (one containing only ACK and/or PADDING frames), even if there are
+packet gaps which precede the received packet. This prevents an indefinite
+feedback loop of acknowledgements, which may prevent the connection from ever
+becoming idle. The endpoint MUST however acknowledge non-ACK-eliciting packets
+when sending ACK frames in response to other packets.

I think so - it may not be technically required, but it would be unclear to a new reader whether non-ack-eliciting packets should be acked, and if so, how.

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Only 110 RFCs off :)

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  • Fix HPACK xref

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I've rebased this PR to incorporate all of the error code rationalization changes that were merged to master. This PR does a few things:

  • Resurrects H2's FRAME_SIZE_ERROR but broadens it to include frame layout errors - name is HTTP_FRAME_ERROR
  • Introduces a new error code HTTP_INVALID_PRIORITY that captures cases where a frame with valid wire layout attempts to create a prioritiation relationship (see additional point below)
  • Replaces occurrences of HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME with: HTTP_ID_ERROR, HTTP_FRAME_ERROR, HTTP_INVALID_PRIORITY.
  • Reshuffles all of the error codes. In doing so, I tried to align the code space with H2 and avoid there being any gaps.

I'm not 100% convinced we need a HTTP_INVALID_PRIORITY code. I'm open to simply using HTTP_FRAME_ERROR.

HTTP_SETTINGS_ERROR and HTTP_MISSING_SETTINGS are candidates to be consolidated (either together, or into another code). This is dependent on discussion in (and related to) #2783. I suggest we solve that in a different PR.

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@LPardue Thank you for all your effort on refactoring the error codes.

I think my preference goes to merging INVALID_PRIORITY with FRAME_ERROR. The reason is that it is the error code captures a syntactic error of a frame, and because I do not think that each frame should have it's own error code to indicate an syntactic error. As an example, "empty bits" could appear not just in the PRIORITY frame but in any frame. Should we have dedicated error code for frames that contain empty bits? I do not think so. Hence my preference to not have INVALID_PRIORITY.

Regarding rearranging the numbers, I wonder if it would be possible to split the error codes into two groups: connection-level error codes and stream-level ones. In contrary to HTTP/2, most of the HTTP/3 error code are either a connection-level error code or a stream-level error code, not both.

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I think my preference goes to merging INVALID_PRIORITY with FRAME_ERROR.
Thanks for the feedback. It's an easy change to make. I'll wait for some supporting or dissenting voices but otherwise will do this.

Regarding rearranging the numbers, I wonder if it would be possible to split the error codes into two groups: connection-level error codes and stream-level ones. In contrary to HTTP/2, most of the HTTP/3 error code are either a connection-level error code or a stream-level error code, not both.

This resonates with my earlier analysis. Some of this was captured in #2816. But I think what you are suggesting is a slightly different thing. Can you explain what splitting might look like and how it would help? I think it gets complicated because 1) we may have a proxy that is trying to translate errors between H2 and H3. 2) stream errors can be upgraded to connection errors

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This enables client and server to agree on which requests were accepted prior to the -connection shutdown. This identifier MAY be zero if no requests were -processed. Servers SHOULD NOT increase the QUIC MAX_STREAMS limit after -sending a GOAWAY frame. +connection shutdown. This identifier MAY be zero if no requests were processed. +Servers SHOULD NOT permit additional transport streams after sending a GOAWAY "transport stream" is new term not defined elsewhere in the document. > @@ -927,12 +927,10 @@ All client-initiated bidirectional streams are used for HTTP requests and responses. A bidirectional stream ensures that the response can be readily correlated with the request. This means that the client's first request occurs on QUIC stream 0, with subsequent requests on stream 4, 8, and so on. In order -to permit these streams to open, an HTTP/3 client SHOULD send non-zero values -for the QUIC transport parameters `initial_max_stream_data_bidi_local`. An -HTTP/3 server SHOULD send non-zero values for the QUIC transport parameters -`initial_max_stream_data_bidi_remote` and `initial_max_bidi_streams`. It is -RECOMMENDED that `initial_max_bidi_streams` be no smaller than 100, so as to not -unnecessarily limit parallelism. +to permit these streams to open, an HTTP/3 server SHOULD configure non-zero +minimum values for the number of permitted streams and the initial flow control +window for each stream. It is RECOMMENDED that at least 100 requests be "initial flow control window for each stream" makes it sound as if each stream's flow control window could be configured independently. > + data or possibly discovering that the stream has been closed because the peer + sent a STOP_SENDING frame ({{frame-stop-sending}}); +- end the stream (clean termination), resulting in a STREAM frame + ({{frame-stream}}) with the FIN bit set; and +- reset the stream (abrupt termination), resulting in a RESET_STREAM frame + ({{frame-reset-stream}}), even if the stream was already ended. + +On the receiving part of a stream, application protocols need to be able to: + +- read data +- abort reading of the stream and request closure, possibly resulting in a + STOP_SENDING frame ({{frame-stop-sending}}) + +Applications also need to be informed of state changes on streams, including +when the peer has initiated, reset, or aborted reading on a stream; when new +data is available; and when data on the stream is blocked due to flow > when data on the stream is blocked due to flow control Does this refer to the endpoint's or peer's inability to write? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@dtikhonov requested changes on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -827,9 +827,9 @@ Servers initiate the shutdown of a connection by sending a GOAWAY frame
 on lower stream IDs were or might be processed in this connection, while
 requests on the indicated stream ID and greater were rejected. This enables
 client and server to agree on which requests were accepted prior to the
-connection shutdown.  This identifier MAY be zero if no requests were
-processed.  Servers SHOULD NOT increase the QUIC MAX_STREAMS limit after
-sending a GOAWAY frame.
+connection shutdown.  This identifier MAY be zero if no requests were processed.
+Servers SHOULD NOT permit additional transport streams after sending a GOAWAY

"transport stream" is new term not defined elsewhere in the document.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -927,12 +927,10 @@ All client-initiated bidirectional streams are used for HTTP requests and
 responses.  A bidirectional stream ensures that the response can be readily
 correlated with the request. This means that the client's first request occurs
 on QUIC stream 0, with subsequent requests on stream 4, 8, and so on. In order
-to permit these streams to open, an HTTP/3 client SHOULD send non-zero values
-for the QUIC transport parameters `initial_max_stream_data_bidi_local`. An
-HTTP/3 server SHOULD send non-zero values for the QUIC transport parameters
-`initial_max_stream_data_bidi_remote` and `initial_max_bidi_streams`. It is
-RECOMMENDED that `initial_max_bidi_streams` be no smaller than 100, so as to not
-unnecessarily limit parallelism.
+to permit these streams to open, an HTTP/3 server SHOULD configure non-zero
+minimum values for the number of permitted streams and the initial flow control
+window for each stream. It is RECOMMENDED that at least 100 requests be

"initial flow control window for each stream" makes it sound as if each stream's flow control window could be configured independently.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +  data or possibly discovering that the stream has been closed because the peer
+  sent a STOP_SENDING frame ({{frame-stop-sending}});
+- end the stream (clean termination), resulting in a STREAM frame
+  ({{frame-stream}}) with the FIN bit set; and
+- reset the stream (abrupt termination), resulting in a RESET_STREAM frame
+  ({{frame-reset-stream}}), even if the stream was already ended.
+
+On the receiving part of a stream, application protocols need to be able to:
+
+- read data
+- abort reading of the stream and request closure, possibly resulting in a
+  STOP_SENDING frame ({{frame-stop-sending}})
+
+Applications also need to be informed of state changes on streams, including
+when the peer has initiated, reset, or aborted reading on a stream; when new
+data is available; and when data on the stream is blocked due to flow

when data on the stream is blocked due to flow control

Does this refer to the endpoint's or peer's inability to write?

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Thanks for doing this, it looks much better. > + data or possibly discovering that the stream has been closed because the peer + sent a STOP_SENDING frame ({{frame-stop-sending}}); +- end the stream (clean termination), resulting in a STREAM frame + ({{frame-stream}}) with the FIN bit set; and +- reset the stream (abrupt termination), resulting in a RESET_STREAM frame + ({{frame-reset-stream}}), even if the stream was already ended. + +On the receiving part of a stream, application protocols need to be able to: + +- read data +- abort reading of the stream and request closure, possibly resulting in a + STOP_SENDING frame ({{frame-stop-sending}}) + +Applications also need to be informed of state changes on streams, including +when the peer has initiated, reset, or aborted reading on a stream; when new +data is available; and when data on the stream is blocked due to flow Should this be flow or congestion control? And should there be a signal when the stream is unblocked so you can resume sending? > @@ -1101,6 +1132,41 @@ suggested structure: --> +## Required Operations on Connections + +There are certain operations which an application MUST be able to perform when +interacting with the QUIC transport. This document does not specify an API, but +any implementation of this version of QUIC MUST expose the ability to perform +the operations described in this section on a QUIC connection. + +When implementing the client role, applications need to be able to: + +- open a connection, which begins the exchange described in {{handshake}}; +- enable 0-RTT; and +- be informed when 0-RTT has been accepted or rejected by a server. I'm not certain the application needs to know about 0-RTT accept/reject, but I believe it does need to know when it can start sending 1RTT data? > + +When implementing the client role, applications need to be able to: + +- open a connection, which begins the exchange described in {{handshake}}; +- enable 0-RTT; and +- be informed when 0-RTT has been accepted or rejected by a server. + +When implementing the server role, applications need to be able to: + +- listen for incoming connections, which prepares for the exchange described in + {{handshake}}; +- if Early Data is supported, embed application-controlled data in the TLS + resumption ticket sent to the client; and +- if Early Data is supported, retrieve application-controlled data from the + client's resumption ticket and enable rejecting Early Data based on that + information. Servers need to expose whether incoming data is Early Data, correct? ie: for the Early Data header. > @@ -505,11 +505,11 @@ this limit are not guaranteed to be accepted. ### Request Cancellation and Rejection {#request-cancellation} -Clients can cancel requests by aborting the stream (QUIC RESET_STREAM and/or -STOP_SENDING frames, as appropriate) with an error code of -HTTP_REQUEST_CANCELLED ({{http-error-codes}}). When the client cancels a -response, it indicates that this response is no longer of interest. -Implementations SHOULD cancel requests by aborting both directions of a stream. +Clients can cancel requests by resetting the request stream with an error code +of HTTP_REQUEST_CANCELLED ({{http-error-codes}}). When the client aborts How about "Clients can cancel requests by resetting and aborting the request stream with an error code of HTTP_REQUEST_CANCELLED"? I think that phrasing makes it clearer that you need to reset the write side and abort the read side in order to fully cancel a request? > @@ -505,11 +505,11 @@ this limit are not guaranteed to be accepted. ### Request Cancellation and Rejection {#request-cancellation} -Clients can cancel requests by aborting the stream (QUIC RESET_STREAM and/or -STOP_SENDING frames, as appropriate) with an error code of -HTTP_REQUEST_CANCELLED ({{http-error-codes}}). When the client cancels a -response, it indicates that this response is no longer of interest. -Implementations SHOULD cancel requests by aborting both directions of a stream. +Clients can cancel requests by resetting the request stream with an error code +of HTTP_REQUEST_CANCELLED ({{http-error-codes}}). When the client aborts +reading a response, it indicates that this response is no longer of interest. +Implementations SHOULD cancel requests by terminating both directions of a Do we define terminating? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2857#pullrequestreview-256355235 ----==_mimepart_5d1a16bb7afea_43843f8023ecd960196780 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@ianswett commented on this pull request.

Thanks for doing this, it looks much better.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +  data or possibly discovering that the stream has been closed because the peer
+  sent a STOP_SENDING frame ({{frame-stop-sending}});
+- end the stream (clean termination), resulting in a STREAM frame
+  ({{frame-stream}}) with the FIN bit set; and
+- reset the stream (abrupt termination), resulting in a RESET_STREAM frame
+  ({{frame-reset-stream}}), even if the stream was already ended.
+
+On the receiving part of a stream, application protocols need to be able to:
+
+- read data
+- abort reading of the stream and request closure, possibly resulting in a
+  STOP_SENDING frame ({{frame-stop-sending}})
+
+Applications also need to be informed of state changes on streams, including
+when the peer has initiated, reset, or aborted reading on a stream; when new
+data is available; and when data on the stream is blocked due to flow

Should this be flow or congestion control? And should there be a signal when the stream is unblocked so you can resume sending?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1101,6 +1132,41 @@ suggested structure:
 -->
 
 
+## Required Operations on Connections
+
+There are certain operations which an application MUST be able to perform when
+interacting with the QUIC transport.  This document does not specify an API, but
+any implementation of this version of QUIC MUST expose the ability to perform
+the operations described in this section on a QUIC connection.
+
+When implementing the client role, applications need to be able to:
+
+- open a connection, which begins the exchange described in {{handshake}};
+- enable 0-RTT; and
+- be informed when 0-RTT has been accepted or rejected by a server.

I'm not certain the application needs to know about 0-RTT accept/reject, but I believe it does need to know when it can start sending 1RTT data?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+When implementing the client role, applications need to be able to:
+
+- open a connection, which begins the exchange described in {{handshake}};
+- enable 0-RTT; and
+- be informed when 0-RTT has been accepted or rejected by a server.
+
+When implementing the server role, applications need to be able to:
+
+- listen for incoming connections, which prepares for the exchange described in
+  {{handshake}};
+- if Early Data is supported, embed application-controlled data in the TLS
+  resumption ticket sent to the client; and
+- if Early Data is supported, retrieve application-controlled data from the
+  client's resumption ticket and enable rejecting Early Data based on that
+  information.

Servers need to expose whether incoming data is Early Data, correct? ie: for the Early Data header.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -505,11 +505,11 @@ this limit are not guaranteed to be accepted.
 
 ### Request Cancellation and Rejection {#request-cancellation}
 
-Clients can cancel requests by aborting the stream (QUIC RESET_STREAM and/or
-STOP_SENDING frames, as appropriate) with an error code of
-HTTP_REQUEST_CANCELLED ({{http-error-codes}}).  When the client cancels a
-response, it indicates that this response is no longer of interest.
-Implementations SHOULD cancel requests by aborting both directions of a stream.
+Clients can cancel requests by resetting the request stream with an error code
+of HTTP_REQUEST_CANCELLED ({{http-error-codes}}).  When the client aborts

How about "Clients can cancel requests by resetting and aborting the request stream with an error code of HTTP_REQUEST_CANCELLED"? I think that phrasing makes it clearer that you need to reset the write side and abort the read side in order to fully cancel a request?

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -505,11 +505,11 @@ this limit are not guaranteed to be accepted.
 
 ### Request Cancellation and Rejection {#request-cancellation}
 
-Clients can cancel requests by aborting the stream (QUIC RESET_STREAM and/or
-STOP_SENDING frames, as appropriate) with an error code of
-HTTP_REQUEST_CANCELLED ({{http-error-codes}}).  When the client cancels a
-response, it indicates that this response is no longer of interest.
-Implementations SHOULD cancel requests by aborting both directions of a stream.
+Clients can cancel requests by resetting the request stream with an error code
+of HTTP_REQUEST_CANCELLED ({{http-error-codes}}).  When the client aborts
+reading a response, it indicates that this response is no longer of interest.
+Implementations SHOULD cancel requests by terminating both directions of a

Do we define terminating?

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----==_mimepart_5d1a16bb7afea_43843f8023ecd960196780-- From nobody Mon Jul 1 07:35:38 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E72BE120297 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2019 07:35:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ikuF_QPP3T0h for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2019 07:35:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 589DB120293 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2019 07:35:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2019 07:35:33 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561991733; bh=nWo+DXGwV0gdy8MMAvPfp0FfyvDcX28vsr3HL3BerMs=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=wNuwRZslFKY6ceqwKChJ69JTww7Fnwy2iE5BJB1Xqix54LrQohUQIlxl1BGreK3At NJIQNXongBfjnoB3vddZ2OCMch1NbA38hx/8TyBHpMbBUS3NrlUgxWnbDw/WFtn3en jWFTUebGCAZMheBj85/C8zjJXOYNluttX5ZtnyZc= From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Invalid Push ID error codes (#2818) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d1a1a3513d40_23da3f86bc6cd964105613"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2019 14:35:36 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d1a1a3513d40_23da3f86bc6cd964105613 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We merged #2820 so I'm closing this as completed. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2818#issuecomment-507291393 ----==_mimepart_5d1a1a3513d40_23da3f86bc6cd964105613 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

We merged #2820 so I'm closing this as completed.

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Closed #2818.

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Since #2826 there are different error codes that the transport might use depending on error conditions (maybe STREAM_STATE_ERROR or maybe STREAM_LIMIT_ERROR).

I'm inclined to simply omit the sentence.

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----==_mimepart_5d1a1bcbd19e9_78eb3fdff12cd95c1358e5-- From nobody Mon Jul 1 07:50:52 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2AAC12024D for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2019 07:50:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Df6_p1rxyAsq for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2019 07:50:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9D40A1200F9 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2019 07:50:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2019 07:50:36 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1561992636; bh=slJTh2kZGrlszHdqmh4UcDbVhpGWhmHJS3LoSm/8qoE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ZDMffxtUrYveGyePZQVdO1N9ftFthGhPBJbwccRlmMByld0vyNb4UvnvfBS3xYFIR 7EdcpzRly2MrD/4fB7Aj2sYASUgUDns+f5C4zNA+cOV9DIX+zvvoamGhZYPGMcYU2Y OamJFFbOazpPlwkPbx8BmeBj20ywSeAiJunJQ8hg= From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Don't state QUIC error codes in HTTP/3 (#2866) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d1a1dbc54f77_e963fe853ccd960766b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2019 14:50:50 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d1a1dbc54f77_e963fe853ccd960766b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So it turns out all of these references are stale. Picking the KISS option to just remove them. Fixes #2815. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2866 -- Commit Summary -- * Don't state QUIC error codes. -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (9) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2866.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2866.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2866 ----==_mimepart_5d1a1dbc54f77_e963fe853ccd960766b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

So it turns out all of these references are stale. Picking the KISS option to just remove them.

Fixes #2815.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2866

Commit Summary

  • Don't state QUIC error codes.

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Thanks Martin, I believe I got all your suggestions and I created a sub-section for limiting ACK ranges, since this section was getting very long. > @@ -2859,13 +2859,16 @@ valid frames? --> ### Sending ACK Frames -An endpoint MUST NOT send more than one packet containing only an ACK frame per -received packet that contains frames other than ACK and PADDING frames. -An endpoint MUST NOT send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response -to a packet containing only ACK or PADDING frames, even if there are packet -gaps which precede the received packet. This prevents an indefinite feedback -loop of ACKs. The endpoint MUST however acknowledge packets containing only -ACK or PADDING frames when sending ACK frames in response to other packets. +Packets containing only ACK frames are not congestion controlled, so there are Good point, this PR is turning into a rewrite of this section, but it needed it. > @@ -2859,13 +2859,16 @@ valid frames? --> ### Sending ACK Frames -An endpoint MUST NOT send more than one packet containing only an ACK frame per -received packet that contains frames other than ACK and PADDING frames. -An endpoint MUST NOT send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response -to a packet containing only ACK or PADDING frames, even if there are packet -gaps which precede the received packet. This prevents an indefinite feedback -loop of ACKs. The endpoint MUST however acknowledge packets containing only -ACK or PADDING frames when sending ACK frames in response to other packets. +Packets containing only ACK frames are not congestion controlled, so there are +limits on how frequently they can be sent. An endpoint MUST NOT send more than +one packet containing only an ACK frame per received ACK-eliciting packet +(one containing frames other than ACK and/or PADDING). An endpoint MUST NOT +send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response to a non-ACK-eliciting Given ACK frames aren't congestion controlled, I think this is better as a MUST. Also, this PR adds text about not bundling a PING or other ack-eliciting packet with every ACK frame. > To limit ACK Ranges (see {{ack-ranges}}) to those that have not yet been received by the sender, the receiver SHOULD track which ACK frames have been acknowledged by its peer. The receiver SHOULD exclude already acknowledged packets from future ACK frames whenever these packets would unnecessarily -contribute to the ACK frame size. - -Because ACK frames are not sent in response to ACK-only packets, a receiver that -is only sending ACK frames will only receive acknowledgements for its packets if -the sender includes them in packets with non-ACK frames. A sender SHOULD bundle -ACK frames with other frames when possible. +contribute to the ACK frame size. When the receiver is only sending +non-ACK-eliciting packets, it can bundle a PING with a fraction of them, such I just checked both the transport and recovery drafts and I don't see any indication of a PING causing an immediate ACK. > @@ -2883,16 +2886,21 @@ needing acknowledgement are received. The sender can use the receiver's Strategies and implications of the frequency of generating acknowledgments are discussed in more detail in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}. +An endpoint that is only sending acknowledgements will not receive +acknowledgments from its peer unless those acknowledgements are included in +packets with ACK-eliciting frames. A sender SHOULD bundle ACK frames with +other frames when possible. To clarify, you're thinking of the case when you're sending ACK-eliciting packets but not receiving any? Good question, I'll add more text highlighting this and improving this paragraph. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2794#pullrequestreview-256379963 ----==_mimepart_5d1a206a13ca3_6e183f8e026cd96c27747f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@ianswett commented on this pull request.

Thanks Martin, I believe I got all your suggestions and I created a sub-section for limiting ACK ranges, since this section was getting very long.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2859,13 +2859,16 @@ valid frames? -->
 
 ### Sending ACK Frames
 
-An endpoint MUST NOT send more than one packet containing only an ACK frame per
-received packet that contains frames other than ACK and PADDING frames.
-An endpoint MUST NOT send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response
-to a packet containing only ACK or PADDING frames, even if there are packet
-gaps which precede the received packet. This prevents an indefinite feedback
-loop of ACKs. The endpoint MUST however acknowledge packets containing only
-ACK or PADDING frames when sending ACK frames in response to other packets.
+Packets containing only ACK frames are not congestion controlled, so there are

Good point, this PR is turning into a rewrite of this section, but it needed it.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2859,13 +2859,16 @@ valid frames? -->
 
 ### Sending ACK Frames
 
-An endpoint MUST NOT send more than one packet containing only an ACK frame per
-received packet that contains frames other than ACK and PADDING frames.
-An endpoint MUST NOT send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response
-to a packet containing only ACK or PADDING frames, even if there are packet
-gaps which precede the received packet. This prevents an indefinite feedback
-loop of ACKs. The endpoint MUST however acknowledge packets containing only
-ACK or PADDING frames when sending ACK frames in response to other packets.
+Packets containing only ACK frames are not congestion controlled, so there are
+limits on how frequently they can be sent.  An endpoint MUST NOT send more than
+one packet containing only an ACK frame per received ACK-eliciting packet
+(one containing frames other than ACK and/or PADDING).  An endpoint MUST NOT
+send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response to a non-ACK-eliciting

Given ACK frames aren't congestion controlled, I think this is better as a MUST. Also, this PR adds text about not bundling a PING or other ack-eliciting packet with every ACK frame.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  To limit ACK Ranges (see {{ack-ranges}}) to those that have not yet been
 received by the sender, the receiver SHOULD track which ACK frames have been
 acknowledged by its peer. The receiver SHOULD exclude already acknowledged
 packets from future ACK frames whenever these packets would unnecessarily
-contribute to the ACK frame size.
-
-Because ACK frames are not sent in response to ACK-only packets, a receiver that
-is only sending ACK frames will only receive acknowledgements for its packets if
-the sender includes them in packets with non-ACK frames.  A sender SHOULD bundle
-ACK frames with other frames when possible.
+contribute to the ACK frame size.  When the receiver is only sending
+non-ACK-eliciting packets, it can bundle a PING with a fraction of them, such

I just checked both the transport and recovery drafts and I don't see any indication of a PING causing an immediate ACK.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2883,16 +2886,21 @@ needing acknowledgement are received.  The sender can use the receiver's
 Strategies and implications of the frequency of generating acknowledgments are
 discussed in more detail in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.
 
+An endpoint that is only sending acknowledgements will not receive
+acknowledgments from its peer unless those acknowledgements are included in
+packets with ACK-eliciting frames.  A sender SHOULD bundle ACK frames with
+other frames when possible.

To clarify, you're thinking of the case when you're sending ACK-eliciting packets but not receiving any? Good question, I'll add more text highlighting this and improving this paragraph.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  To limit ACK Ranges (see {{ack-ranges}}) to those that have not yet been
 received by the sender, the receiver SHOULD track which ACK frames have been
 acknowledged by its peer. The receiver SHOULD exclude already acknowledged
 packets from future ACK frames whenever these packets would unnecessarily
-contribute to the ACK frame size.
-
-Because ACK frames are not sent in response to ACK-only packets, a receiver that
-is only sending ACK frames will only receive acknowledgements for its packets if
-the sender includes them in packets with non-ACK frames.  A sender SHOULD bundle
-ACK frames with other frames when possible.
+contribute to the ACK frame size.  When the receiver is only sending
+non-ACK-eliciting packets, it can bundle a PING with a fraction of them, such

You are correct. I remember we had a discussion about doing so, but I also do not see it landing anywhere. So this PING as an example of what can be done sounds good. But "MUST NOT bundle a PING" in the following sentence looks like normative language, and PING is not longer just an example there.

Maybe you want to write: "MUST NOT make every otherwise non-ACK-eliciting packet ACK-eliciting, in order to ..." or "MUST NOT add an ACK-eliciting frame to every otherwise non-ACK-eliciting packet, in order to ...".

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -ACK or PADDING frames when sending ACK frames in response to other packets.
+An endpoint sends ACK frames to acknowledge packets it has received and
+processed. Sending ACK frames is the primary mechanism for advancing the state
+of a connection.
+
+Packets containing only ACK frames are not congestion controlled, so there are
+limits on how frequently they can be sent.  An endpoint MUST NOT send more than
+one packet containing only an ACK frame per received ACK-eliciting packet
+(one containing frames other than ACK and/or PADDING).  An endpoint MUST NOT
+send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response to a non-ACK-eliciting
+packet (one containing only ACK and/or PADDING frames), even if there are
+packet gaps which precede the received packet. Limiting the sending of ACK
+frames avoids creating an indefinite feedback loop of acknowledgements,
+which could prevent the connection from ever becoming idle. The endpoint MUST
+however acknowledge non-ACK-eliciting packets when sending ACK frames in
+response to Ack-eliciting packets.

s/Ack-eliciting/ACK-eliciting/

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This PR adds a recommendation involving the number 40 without explaining where that number comes from. It would be nice to include a reference to the section that explains the math.

That said, I don't think this number should depend on the maximum connection ID length, as discussed here. But feel free to tell me that this PR is not the place to discuss that.

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The sender can use the receiver's Strategies and implications of the frequency of generating acknowledgments are discussed in more detail in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}. +An endpoint that is only sending acknowledgements will not receive +acknowledgments from its peer unless those acknowledgements are included in +packets with ACK-eliciting frames. A sender SHOULD bundle ACK frames with +other frames when possible. Yes, that is always the problem case. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2794#discussion_r299281274 ----==_mimepart_5d1ac04c1ca99_4d103fbd6b0cd95c900da Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2883,16 +2886,21 @@ needing acknowledgement are received.  The sender can use the receiver's
 Strategies and implications of the frequency of generating acknowledgments are
 discussed in more detail in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.
 
+An endpoint that is only sending acknowledgements will not receive
+acknowledgments from its peer unless those acknowledgements are included in
+packets with ACK-eliciting frames.  A sender SHOULD bundle ACK frames with
+other frames when possible.

Yes, that is always the problem case.

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If you want to talk about the idea that the connection ID might change in length, that's a separate issue, which you should feel free to open. I am fairly sure that I can show that this isn't a meaningful insight, but happy to discuss it there.

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----==_mimepart_5d1ac228b776e_1d053f8cb34cd96413738-- From nobody Mon Jul 1 20:18:54 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74B091201C7 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2019 20:18:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5qWdp5Edlf3Q for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2019 20:18:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 64B821200D7 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2019 20:18:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2019 20:18:49 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1562037529; bh=OHo4fqjlbLVebYjPj3E2lh8xKPjDuPBtrSDSxbZw+/w=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=PP3VoZJPeEI/54xz0GtXWLSJihfP+x9H6N/+hcH/x5Rd/2M5Ko1u8eoFq1c7yVGgn jceK2LTH0IKxxGLS68IeIAITIH8URPz1RADaRUIs2fYVLKqrEi1RP7bcaRYw8k0cyz fWyXyAs0EQCKaSgBMfYfpquRYrdXca1YtLXuVXcU= From: Igor Lubashev Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clarify ACK of ACKs and bundling a PING (#2794) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d1acd19a7bed_4fb93fc6b4ecd9601140d7"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: igorlord X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2019 03:18:54 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d1acd19a7bed_4fb93fc6b4ecd9601140d7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit igorlord commented on this pull request. > @@ -2859,13 +2859,16 @@ valid frames? --> ### Sending ACK Frames -An endpoint MUST NOT send more than one packet containing only an ACK frame per -received packet that contains frames other than ACK and PADDING frames. -An endpoint MUST NOT send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response -to a packet containing only ACK or PADDING frames, even if there are packet -gaps which precede the received packet. This prevents an indefinite feedback -loop of ACKs. The endpoint MUST however acknowledge packets containing only -ACK or PADDING frames when sending ACK frames in response to other packets. +Packets containing only ACK frames are not congestion controlled, so there are +limits on how frequently they can be sent. An endpoint MUST NOT send more than +one packet containing only an ACK frame per received ACK-eliciting packet +(one containing frames other than ACK and/or PADDING). An endpoint MUST NOT +send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response to a non-ACK-eliciting The text about not bundling PING (& friends) with every ACK is for the sender of only-ACKs. The question here is about the receiver of only-ACKs. Presumably such endpoint has just sent a train of packets, and when it received an ACK for all the packets, it has nothing more to send. At that point, it may wish to ACK the last ACK w/o waiting for the receiver to send it ACK+PING. Would that be sane behavior? I think so. But if the sender bundles ACKs for ACKs in packets with data, the receiver will hold at most 1-rtt worth of state, so it is not that bad I guess. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2794#discussion_r299289179 ----==_mimepart_5d1acd19a7bed_4fb93fc6b4ecd9601140d7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2859,13 +2859,16 @@ valid frames? -->
 
 ### Sending ACK Frames
 
-An endpoint MUST NOT send more than one packet containing only an ACK frame per
-received packet that contains frames other than ACK and PADDING frames.
-An endpoint MUST NOT send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response
-to a packet containing only ACK or PADDING frames, even if there are packet
-gaps which precede the received packet. This prevents an indefinite feedback
-loop of ACKs. The endpoint MUST however acknowledge packets containing only
-ACK or PADDING frames when sending ACK frames in response to other packets.
+Packets containing only ACK frames are not congestion controlled, so there are
+limits on how frequently they can be sent.  An endpoint MUST NOT send more than
+one packet containing only an ACK frame per received ACK-eliciting packet
+(one containing frames other than ACK and/or PADDING).  An endpoint MUST NOT
+send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response to a non-ACK-eliciting

The text about not bundling PING (& friends) with every ACK is for the sender of only-ACKs.

The question here is about the receiver of only-ACKs. Presumably such endpoint has just sent a train of packets, and when it received an ACK for all the packets, it has nothing more to send. At that point, it may wish to ACK the last ACK w/o waiting for the receiver to send it ACK+PING. Would that be sane behavior? I think so. But if the sender bundles ACKs for ACKs in packets with data, the receiver will hold at most 1-rtt worth of state, so it is not that bad I guess.

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Randomness was explicitly ruled out in discussions about a year ago. People felt uncomfortable with non-deterministic behaviour. (FWIW, I was OK with non-determinism on the basis that individual cases of determinism devolve to hollistic non-determinism, but that wasn't a winning argument at the time.)

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It's an easy change to make. I'll wait for some supporting or dissenting voices but otherwise will do this. :+1: >> Regarding rearranging the numbers, I wonder if it would be possible to split the error codes into two groups: connection-level error codes and stream-level ones. In contrary to HTTP/2, most of the HTTP/3 error code are either a connection-level error code or a stream-level error code, not both. > > This resonates with my earlier analysis. Some of this was captured in #2816. But I think what you are suggesting is a slightly different thing. Can you explain what splitting might look like and how it would help? I think it gets complicated because 1) we may have a proxy that is trying to translate errors between H2 and H3. 2) stream errors can be upgraded to connection errors IIUC, the following H3 error codes are used at both connection and stream level. * HTTP_NO_ERROR * HTTP_GENERAL_PROTOCOL_ERROR * HTTP_INTERNAL_ERROR The following codes are used only at connection level, though HTTP_EXCESSIVE_LOAD could be carried at stream level too. * HTTP_STREAM_CREATION_ERROR * HTTP_CLOSED_CRITICAL_STREAM * HTTP_UNEXPECTED_FRAME * HTTP_FRAME_ERROR * HTTP_EXCESSIVE_LOAD * HTTP_WRONG_STREAM * HTTP_ID_ERROR * HTTP_INVALID_PRIORITY * HTTP_SETTINGS_ERROR * HTTP_MISSING_SETTINGS The following codes are stream-level errors. While they can be promoted to connection errors, doing so has a risk of resetting other requests inflight. Therefore I'd assume that they would generally be used only at stream-level. * HTTP_REQUEST_REJECTED * HTTP_REQUEST_CANCELLED * HTTP_INCOMPLETE_REQUEST * HTTP_EARLY_RESPONSE * HTTP_CONNECT_ERROR * HTTP_VERSION_FALLBACK Therefore I thought that it might make sense to explain these three groups differently in the draft. While I can see the desire to assign codepoints that overlap with HTTP/2, I am not sure if that's a good idea. Not only the error codes are different between H2 and H3, some H2 error codes map to QUIC transport-level errors. Considering the fact that there cannot be a one-to-one mapping, I'm afraid having overlap might backfire against us; it just creates an incentive to pass-through the error codes between different versions of the protocol. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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I think my preference goes to merging INVALID_PRIORITY with FRAME_ERRO= R.

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Thanks for the feedback. It's an easy change to make. I'll wait for so= me supporting or dissenting voices but otherwise will do this.

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Regarding rearranging the numbers, I wonder if it would be possible to= split the error codes into two groups: connection-level error codes and = stream-level ones. In contrary to HTTP/2, most of the HTTP/3 error code a= re either a connection-level error code or a stream-level error code, not= both.

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This resonates with my earlier analysis. Some of this was captured in = #2816. But I think what you are suggesting is a slightly diffe= rent thing. Can you explain what splitting might look like and how it wou= ld help? I think it gets complicated because 1) we may have a proxy that = is trying to translate errors between H2 and H3. 2) stream errors can be = upgraded to connection errors

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IIUC, the following H3 error codes are used at both connection and str= eam level.

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The following codes are used only at connection level, though HTTP_EXC= ESSIVE_LOAD could be carried at stream level too.

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The following codes are stream-level errors. While they can be promote= d to connection errors, doing so has a risk of resetting other requests i= nflight. Therefore I'd assume that they would generally be used only at s= tream-level.

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Therefore I thought that it might make sense to explain these three gr= oups differently in the draft.

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While I can see the desire to assign codepoints that overlap with HTTP= /2, I am not sure if that's a good idea. Not only the error codes are dif= ferent between H2 and H3, some H2 error codes map to QUIC transport-level= errors. Considering the fact that there cannot be a one-to-one mapping, = I'm afraid having overlap might backfire against us; it just creates an i= ncentive to pass-through the error codes between different versions of th= e protocol.

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=0D = ----==_mimepart_5d1af1b0d70dc_632b3fa1a10cd960870b4-- From nobody Mon Jul 1 23:52:59 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CE821201EB for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2019 23:52:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LUprLYI_8Lk7 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2019 23:52:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-12.smtp.github.com (out-12.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F1651201E7 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2019 23:52:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2019 23:52:54 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1562050375; bh=Xi8yEqdTheSjJSjOQEewc1eiwXnzE1ZcBJ3bb3bOxDs=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=zodhdW2fR2L0FnsMgVtgNJj+kBY4UslnUR6qyd73GyCGNfGtD6ya3BoSGnd+BaqS2 kRpqPRZjiHTlft5eljKuWuogJ+TczRYvnDpEHSv9JgMW/gd2eI+EijohAzBMKvRF3t lRaCIv/MVTRujztfXCB5PkA3PQd5VmsHrBaP26UM= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clarify ACK of ACKs and bundling a PING (#2794) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d1aff46d599d_72253fe42c2cd968248577"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2019 06:52:58 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d1aff46d599d_72253fe42c2cd968248577 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mikkelfj commented on this pull request. > @@ -2859,13 +2859,16 @@ valid frames? --> ### Sending ACK Frames -An endpoint MUST NOT send more than one packet containing only an ACK frame per -received packet that contains frames other than ACK and PADDING frames. -An endpoint MUST NOT send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response -to a packet containing only ACK or PADDING frames, even if there are packet -gaps which precede the received packet. This prevents an indefinite feedback -loop of ACKs. The endpoint MUST however acknowledge packets containing only -ACK or PADDING frames when sending ACK frames in response to other packets. +Packets containing only ACK frames are not congestion controlled, so there are +limits on how frequently they can be sent. An endpoint MUST NOT send more than +one packet containing only an ACK frame per received ACK-eliciting packet +(one containing frames other than ACK and/or PADDING). An endpoint MUST NOT +send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response to a non-ACK-eliciting What if change the requirement to simply not ACK'ing ACK's too often. That would also do away with PING feedback loops. It seems that we are just moving the problem. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2794#discussion_r299326239 ----==_mimepart_5d1aff46d599d_72253fe42c2cd968248577 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2859,13 +2859,16 @@ valid frames? -->
 
 ### Sending ACK Frames
 
-An endpoint MUST NOT send more than one packet containing only an ACK frame per
-received packet that contains frames other than ACK and PADDING frames.
-An endpoint MUST NOT send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response
-to a packet containing only ACK or PADDING frames, even if there are packet
-gaps which precede the received packet. This prevents an indefinite feedback
-loop of ACKs. The endpoint MUST however acknowledge packets containing only
-ACK or PADDING frames when sending ACK frames in response to other packets.
+Packets containing only ACK frames are not congestion controlled, so there are
+limits on how frequently they can be sent.  An endpoint MUST NOT send more than
+one packet containing only an ACK frame per received ACK-eliciting packet
+(one containing frames other than ACK and/or PADDING).  An endpoint MUST NOT
+send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response to a non-ACK-eliciting

What if change the requirement to simply not ACK'ing ACK's too often. That would also do away with PING feedback loops. It seems that we are just moving the problem.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -received packet that contains frames other than ACK and PADDING frames.
-An endpoint MUST NOT send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response
-to a packet containing only ACK or PADDING frames, even if there are packet
-gaps which precede the received packet. This prevents an indefinite feedback
-loop of ACKs. The endpoint MUST however acknowledge packets containing only
-ACK or PADDING frames when sending ACK frames in response to other packets.
+Packets containing only ACK frames are not congestion controlled, so there are
+limits on how frequently they can be sent.  An endpoint MUST NOT send more than
+one packet containing only an ACK frame per received ACK-eliciting packet
+(one containing frames other than ACK and/or PADDING).  An endpoint MUST NOT
+send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response to a non-ACK-eliciting
+packet (one containing only ACK and/or PADDING frames), even if there are
+packet gaps which precede the received packet. This prevents an indefinite
+feedback loop of acknowledgements, which may prevent the connection from ever
+becoming idle. The endpoint MUST however acknowledge non-ACK-eliciting packets
+when sending ACK frames in response to other packets.

Oh, I think I suggested that before and @ianswett said the peer might want to control when to receive ACK's.

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It still doesn't change the physics of it all though, but I take that is what you mean by "holistic non-determinism". Now you just have random peers making arbitrary choices instead, some of which could be fatal, others inefficient.

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Thanks for this analysis it does really clarify your position. I think there are two independent discussion points here:

  1. should error codes be grouped in a logical order by their intended use?
  2. should error codes align with or avoid HTTP/2 where possible?

For (1), I'm not against adopting your suggested order but keen to hear some other opinions here.

(2) I think is a bigger issue:

While I can see the desire to assign codepoints that overlap with HTTP/2, I am not sure if that's a good idea. Not only the error codes are different between H2 and H3, some H2 error codes map to QUIC transport-level errors. Considering the fact that there cannot be a one-to-one mapping, I'm afraid having overlap might backfire against us; it just creates an incentive to pass-through the error codes between different versions of the protocol.

Do you think the incentive grows with increasing number of aligned points? A sledgehammer of a disincentive is to shift these to avoid HTTP/2 completely; e.g. shift by 0x20, 0x50 or 0x100. Note that QPACK codes already start at 0x200

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----==_mimepart_5d1b38949ebd8_63163fbe9f2cd95c170321-- From nobody Tue Jul 2 07:55:38 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D23F6120129 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2019 07:55:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uIZbNhS2nvd9 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2019 07:55:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-22.smtp.github.com (out-22.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.205]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9A5D812010E for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2019 07:55:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2019 07:55:31 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1562079331; bh=SSPyh1099/4mwIXTQ5jOqYtvaSD7f8bZ/cKqBNRq3QA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Sbiy5aoBGXJDQyp6Ts3i/32b6R6Ynrj8+9J+3pc69pZOjYAOM23G5Z0X0ayd+dZYL brIECmBkLMD4d8UrtS3Ec/+Jjsybsk8jYDX2HALxkz1XbOlZv6hFm4wRdbH6PvToK0 xxWGBr+QBeEk68Frew+ENMHXN8lDxPMs1EecQwAA= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Replace HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME error code (#2662) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d1b706373e93_14aa3f8d1eacd95c1164e1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2019 14:55:35 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d1b706373e93_14aa3f8d1eacd95c1164e1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am not seeing much value in aligning with HTTP/2 error codes. Alignment would have value if the endpoints could treat a given HTTP/2 and HTTP/3 error code identically. However, in our current GQUIC implementation, we have a handful of error codes with any special treatment and they're all transport level, so I don't think that's a good argument? Aligning them has the chance of adding more confusion, so unless there is a technical reason to do so(ie: the above), I think it should not be a goal. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2662#issuecomment-507713784 ----==_mimepart_5d1b706373e93_14aa3f8d1eacd95c1164e1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I am not seeing much value in aligning with HTTP/2 error codes. Alignment would have value if the endpoints could treat a given HTTP/2 and HTTP/3 error code identically.

However, in our current GQUIC implementation, we have a handful of error codes with any special treatment and they're all transport level, so I don't think that's a good argument?

Aligning them has the chance of adding more confusion, so unless there is a technical reason to do so(ie: the above), I think it should not be a goal.

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  • Clarify HTTP message definition.
  • Require the connection to be closed upon receipt of frames in
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  • Refer to HTTP messages in push stream section.

This addresses #2858.

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----==_mimepart_5d1b97908dfff_58503fb65f8cd96c1124ed-- From nobody Tue Jul 2 12:54:15 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEA531206CB for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2019 12:54:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HcBGxV2bDWi1 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2019 12:54:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5CB1712016D for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2019 12:54:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2019 12:54:08 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1562097248; bh=VqWUNybMY091m0Uljyqq4ubhAL+/yCtNwxZHywdtSHU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=C3MCW0ilsVyZc6Ksut0fl7bs0vNHIZ5CcKqh5k6m9A0tKyFnTb8PbJrje5cSb2ldb F007qdO+4xOm1OQmWnqpqNlpdLE+p0mhd5J/BicDieBBqia9JjVVIl4RgSW37ZnnN1 7czKYccKw7pTNmU/F0zMUFoWMRTopc24jCWvOlfQ= From: David Schinazi Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Stateless Reset packet sizes should not depend on the maximum connection ID length (#2869) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d1bb660dd359_2aa83fcb080cd95c54191"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: DavidSchinazi X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2019 19:54:13 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d1bb660dd359_2aa83fcb080cd95c54191 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Currently, the spec recommends sending Stateless Reset packets of at least 39 bytes. The number is the minimum packet size when using the maximum connection ID length of 18: - type byte: 1 - client connection ID: 18 - packet number + payload: 4 - auth tag: 16 39 = 1 + 18 + 4 + 16. The intention there was to make Stateless Resets harder to distinguish from regular server-to-client traffic on a given QUIC connection. However, when client connection IDs are in use, Stateless Resets are inherently distinguishable from regular traffic because they do not carry the previously-used client connection ID. One might say that they could be confused for a change in connection ID, which is true. But let's assume we just changed from an 18 byte client connection ID to a 4-byte connection ID (which is specifically allowed by the spec), then that new packet is still equally indistinguishable from a Stateless Reset. It is true that a client connection ID length change from 18 to 4 is unlikely, but that's not a problem. We just need it to be possible for this to be a valid packet to observers without keys. So I propose that instead of having a minimum required size for stateless resets of 21 and a recommended minimum of 39, we can just say the minimum required size is 25. The important value here is the minimum non-zero connection ID length, not the maximum connection ID length. At the end of the day, a Stateless Reset will stick out to observers who will notice that the client stops sending on that particular connection. The current value of 39 is harming the protocol by increasing the odds of servers not sending Stateless Resets which will cause timeouts on clients instead of failing fast. This is a tradeoff, and we should strive to avoid timeouts instead of trying to hide a packet that can't be hidden. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2869 ----==_mimepart_5d1bb660dd359_2aa83fcb080cd95c54191 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Currently, the spec recommends sending Stateless Reset packets of at least 39 bytes. The number is the minimum packet size when using the maximum connection ID length of 18:

  • type byte: 1
  • client connection ID: 18
  • packet number + payload: 4
  • auth tag: 16

39 = 1 + 18 + 4 + 16.

The intention there was to make Stateless Resets harder to distinguish from regular server-to-client traffic on a given QUIC connection.

However, when client connection IDs are in use, Stateless Resets are inherently distinguishable from regular traffic because they do not carry the previously-used client connection ID. One might say that they could be confused for a change in connection ID, which is true. But let's assume we just changed from an 18 byte client connection ID to a 4-byte connection ID (which is specifically allowed by the spec), then that new packet is still equally indistinguishable from a Stateless Reset. It is true that a client connection ID length change from 18 to 4 is unlikely, but that's not a problem. We just need it to be possible for this to be a valid packet to observers without keys.

So I propose that instead of having a minimum required size for stateless resets of 21 and a recommended minimum of 39, we can just say the minimum required size is 25. The important value here is the minimum non-zero connection ID length, not the maximum connection ID length.

At the end of the day, a Stateless Reset will stick out to observers who will notice that the client stops sending on that particular connection. The current value of 39 is harming the protocol by increasing the odds of servers not sending Stateless Resets which will cause timeouts on clients instead of failing fast. This is a tradeoff, and we should strive to avoid timeouts instead of trying to hide a packet that can't be hidden.

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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -received packet that contains frames other than ACK and PADDING frames.
-An endpoint MUST NOT send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response
-to a packet containing only ACK or PADDING frames, even if there are packet
-gaps which precede the received packet. This prevents an indefinite feedback
-loop of ACKs. The endpoint MUST however acknowledge packets containing only
-ACK or PADDING frames when sending ACK frames in response to other packets.
+Packets containing only ACK frames are not congestion controlled, so there are
+limits on how frequently they can be sent.  An endpoint MUST NOT send more than
+one packet containing only an ACK frame per received ACK-eliciting packet
+(one containing frames other than ACK and/or PADDING).  An endpoint MUST NOT
+send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response to a non-ACK-eliciting
+packet (one containing only ACK and/or PADDING frames), even if there are
+packet gaps which precede the received packet. This prevents an indefinite
+feedback loop of acknowledgements, which may prevent the connection from ever
+becoming idle. The endpoint MUST however acknowledge non-ACK-eliciting packets
+when sending ACK frames in response to other packets.

We can say it differently, but it's important to say somewhere that non-ACK-eliciting packets are ACKed when an ACK is sent.

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----==_mimepart_5d1bd7fe98fbb_45803ffa946cd9684239ef-- From nobody Tue Jul 2 15:22:20 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74A6B12012A for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2019 15:22:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id O_w0_08b9Xif for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2019 15:22:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 23CCE1200F6 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2019 15:22:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2019 15:22:14 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1562106134; bh=ozfjC9QYP6gRDYXDFGy1MzLjse8dcmIqkbpxI66iPaM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Y++KUsyZBBwnqu5RtGA1jMIIZWXWHUY9QQyIbrlFmCK0DRHm05oE7FdmG2ZuQ0ai2 93rUiSR6WmhJ5L93+aVG43KAt67qHI8SLzlm/c1DrdmWIP6fVjMVq1IaUOgzDtJvfa pFIl8qcvaZHzPzMaegL7WSW1Q7hPB7x7G4jwNIVg= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clarify ACK of ACKs and bundling a PING (#2794) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d1bd916dff00_60d43fb4144cd9684394db"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2019 22:22:19 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d1bd916dff00_60d43fb4144cd9684394db Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mikkelfj commented on this pull request. > -received packet that contains frames other than ACK and PADDING frames. -An endpoint MUST NOT send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response -to a packet containing only ACK or PADDING frames, even if there are packet -gaps which precede the received packet. This prevents an indefinite feedback -loop of ACKs. The endpoint MUST however acknowledge packets containing only -ACK or PADDING frames when sending ACK frames in response to other packets. +Packets containing only ACK frames are not congestion controlled, so there are +limits on how frequently they can be sent. An endpoint MUST NOT send more than +one packet containing only an ACK frame per received ACK-eliciting packet +(one containing frames other than ACK and/or PADDING). An endpoint MUST NOT +send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response to a non-ACK-eliciting +packet (one containing only ACK and/or PADDING frames), even if there are +packet gaps which precede the received packet. This prevents an indefinite +feedback loop of acknowledgements, which may prevent the connection from ever +becoming idle. The endpoint MUST however acknowledge non-ACK-eliciting packets +when sending ACK frames in response to other packets. that Oh, ... comment landet the wrong place - I responded elsewhere > What if change the requirement to simply not ACK'ing ACK's too often. That would also do away with PING feedback loops. It seems that we are just moving the problem. and this is what the comment was an update to. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2794#discussion_r299708727 ----==_mimepart_5d1bd916dff00_60d43fb4144cd9684394db Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@mikkelfj commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -received packet that contains frames other than ACK and PADDING frames.
-An endpoint MUST NOT send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response
-to a packet containing only ACK or PADDING frames, even if there are packet
-gaps which precede the received packet. This prevents an indefinite feedback
-loop of ACKs. The endpoint MUST however acknowledge packets containing only
-ACK or PADDING frames when sending ACK frames in response to other packets.
+Packets containing only ACK frames are not congestion controlled, so there are
+limits on how frequently they can be sent.  An endpoint MUST NOT send more than
+one packet containing only an ACK frame per received ACK-eliciting packet
+(one containing frames other than ACK and/or PADDING).  An endpoint MUST NOT
+send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response to a non-ACK-eliciting
+packet (one containing only ACK and/or PADDING frames), even if there are
+packet gaps which precede the received packet. This prevents an indefinite
+feedback loop of acknowledgements, which may prevent the connection from ever
+becoming idle. The endpoint MUST however acknowledge non-ACK-eliciting packets
+when sending ACK frames in response to other packets.

that Oh, ... comment landet the wrong place - I responded elsewhere

What if change the requirement to simply not ACK'ing ACK's too often. That would also do away with PING feedback loops. It seems that we are just moving the problem.

and this is what the comment was an update to.

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assume we just changed from an 18 byte client connection ID to a 4-byte connection ID

This does not permit the attacker any knowledge of the client. If a client always selects an 18 byte connection ID, a stateless reset will stand out.

a Stateless Reset will stick out to observers who will notice that the client stops sending on that particular connection

The goal is to avoid having the message interfered with in transit. After it gets through and is processed, what happens after doesn't matter.

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#2153 is also related I believe.

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----==_mimepart_5d1bdcf2356b2_3953f988fecd96817211-- From nobody Tue Jul 2 15:39:53 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 839E1120106 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2019 15:39:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.908 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.908 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5YMr2exze_wX for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2019 15:39:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-22.smtp.github.com (out-22.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.205]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5A9D01200F6 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2019 15:39:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2019 15:39:49 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1562107189; bh=5e32MdO4+UQId+XtlRFHOId6YKLscKXpDRlhofbxW88=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=s051ZqujcVXDR4B5Q0d3J7RbNxfWd7yEJSrxaFhOGu3I4+rpDmWJBX3xrswCLw++i FEKzlNDF/9wfb8cWFxyEINKuetQfEU9b9yy063NFd7DSBvBMRFw7f35iZMzcw45mA5 S9A3TZBp4DLDnqv8SonIrCcIoUq/xQFtPyu9iEFI= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] NEW_TOKEN should be symmetric (#2760) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d1bdd3517d79_22d23fa9f24cd96c1091df"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2019 22:39:51 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d1bdd3517d79_22d23fa9f24cd96c1091df Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Proposal: quicv2. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2760#issuecomment-507870484 ----==_mimepart_5d1bdd3517d79_22d23fa9f24cd96c1091df Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Proposal: quicv2.

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We have discussed this several times in the past and concluded not to do this. I'm not seeing any new information here, so I'm going to propose that we close this issue with no action.

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----==_mimepart_5d1bde8799a40_65b33ff28aecd968290479-- From nobody Tue Jul 2 15:51:40 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A703E120128 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2019 15:51:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fbUx4RI_L8l7 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2019 15:51:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C23701200F6 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2019 15:51:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2019 15:51:35 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1562107895; bh=anhdESLLCTyCqy6tUo89h7Y2Pjx71/KDlSGWbKGQ3AI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=wKSbFWfoPaFfpF5JWWn5vo5ziuuoZ09z5MN8Y94oFAiC+ZFhpne1yRSeYaZKO8FT5 gIpJy+9uynWG9De1ipgz1eXseutWMAsTGiSTbqMfhP/w6ueSzCin1KNFTW5b18AgXj vR311Z9NI0afj0ppc2xVH+82S0rwESU9+aAxILB8= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Stateless Reset packet sizes should not depend on the maximum connection ID length (#2869) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d1bdff78b50c_18ba3fdf9c6cd96c15274c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2019 22:51:39 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d1bdff78b50c_18ba3fdf9c6cd96c15274c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The goal is not to avoid the attacker dropping the packet(I'm not sure what other type of interference is possible here?). If they can do that, they can drop all packets and that's likely even worse. The goal is to ensure the packet can't be reliably identified as a stateless reset, which is a much lower bar. As I stated on #2770, if the client wants to ensure it's reset is always large enough to be indistinguishable, it needs to send a packet size that's one byte larger than the smallest packet it expects to receive. Typically, this is a no-op for the client, so compliance is trivial. No matter what happens, a server may send a stateless reset in response to any QUIC packet that's large enough to be valid, and it's not sensible to try to prevent a server from doing that. Even if the packet is smaller than other packets, it's just odd, not invalid, as David said. If we don't do this, I fear clients will increase their effective minimum packet size substantially, which is a cost everyone has to bear, when a large number of clients will use 0 byte CIDs. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2869#issuecomment-507873146 ----==_mimepart_5d1bdff78b50c_18ba3fdf9c6cd96c15274c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The goal is not to avoid the attacker dropping the packet(I'm not sure what other type of interference is possible here?). If they can do that, they can drop all packets and that's likely even worse. The goal is to ensure the packet can't be reliably identified as a stateless reset, which is a much lower bar.

As I stated on #2770, if the client wants to ensure it's reset is always large enough to be indistinguishable, it needs to send a packet size that's one byte larger than the smallest packet it expects to receive. Typically, this is a no-op for the client, so compliance is trivial.

No matter what happens, a server may send a stateless reset in response to any QUIC packet that's large enough to be valid, and it's not sensible to try to prevent a server from doing that.

Even if the packet is smaller than other packets, it's just odd, not invalid, as David said.

If we don't do this, I fear clients will increase their effective minimum packet size substantially, which is a cost everyone has to bear, when a large number of clients will use 0 byte CIDs.

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This prevents an indefinite feedback -loop of ACKs. The endpoint MUST however acknowledge packets containing only -ACK or PADDING frames when sending ACK frames in response to other packets. +An endpoint sends ACK frames to acknowledge packets it has received and +processed. Sending ACK frames is the primary mechanism for advancing the state +of a connection. This second sentence seems unnecessary. > @@ -2859,13 +2859,21 @@ valid frames? --> ### Sending ACK Frames -An endpoint MUST NOT send more than one packet containing only an ACK frame per -received packet that contains frames other than ACK and PADDING frames. -An endpoint MUST NOT send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response -to a packet containing only ACK or PADDING frames, even if there are packet -gaps which precede the received packet. This prevents an indefinite feedback -loop of ACKs. The endpoint MUST however acknowledge packets containing only -ACK or PADDING frames when sending ACK frames in response to other packets. +An endpoint sends ACK frames to acknowledge packets it has received and +processed. Sending ACK frames is the primary mechanism for advancing the state +of a connection. + +Packets containing only ACK frames are not congestion controlled, so there are +limits on how frequently they can be sent. An endpoint MUST NOT send more than +one packet containing only an ACK frame per received ACK-eliciting packet ```suggestion one ACK-frame-only packet in response to receiving an ACK-eliciting packet ``` > -An endpoint MUST NOT send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response -to a packet containing only ACK or PADDING frames, even if there are packet -gaps which precede the received packet. This prevents an indefinite feedback -loop of ACKs. The endpoint MUST however acknowledge packets containing only -ACK or PADDING frames when sending ACK frames in response to other packets. +An endpoint sends ACK frames to acknowledge packets it has received and +processed. Sending ACK frames is the primary mechanism for advancing the state +of a connection. + +Packets containing only ACK frames are not congestion controlled, so there are +limits on how frequently they can be sent. An endpoint MUST NOT send more than +one packet containing only an ACK frame per received ACK-eliciting packet +(one containing frames other than ACK and/or PADDING). An endpoint MUST NOT +send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response to a non-ACK-eliciting +packet (one containing only ACK and/or PADDING frames), even if there are +packet gaps which precede the received packet. Limiting the sending of ACK ```suggestion packet gaps which precede the received packet. Limiting ACK ``` > -to a packet containing only ACK or PADDING frames, even if there are packet -gaps which precede the received packet. This prevents an indefinite feedback -loop of ACKs. The endpoint MUST however acknowledge packets containing only -ACK or PADDING frames when sending ACK frames in response to other packets. +An endpoint sends ACK frames to acknowledge packets it has received and +processed. Sending ACK frames is the primary mechanism for advancing the state +of a connection. + +Packets containing only ACK frames are not congestion controlled, so there are +limits on how frequently they can be sent. An endpoint MUST NOT send more than +one packet containing only an ACK frame per received ACK-eliciting packet +(one containing frames other than ACK and/or PADDING). An endpoint MUST NOT +send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response to a non-ACK-eliciting +packet (one containing only ACK and/or PADDING frames), even if there are +packet gaps which precede the received packet. Limiting the sending of ACK +frames avoids creating an indefinite feedback loop of acknowledgements, ```suggestion frames avoids an infinite feedback loop of acknowledgements, ``` > -gaps which precede the received packet. This prevents an indefinite feedback -loop of ACKs. The endpoint MUST however acknowledge packets containing only -ACK or PADDING frames when sending ACK frames in response to other packets. +An endpoint sends ACK frames to acknowledge packets it has received and +processed. Sending ACK frames is the primary mechanism for advancing the state +of a connection. + +Packets containing only ACK frames are not congestion controlled, so there are +limits on how frequently they can be sent. An endpoint MUST NOT send more than +one packet containing only an ACK frame per received ACK-eliciting packet +(one containing frames other than ACK and/or PADDING). An endpoint MUST NOT +send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response to a non-ACK-eliciting +packet (one containing only ACK and/or PADDING frames), even if there are +packet gaps which precede the received packet. Limiting the sending of ACK +frames avoids creating an indefinite feedback loop of acknowledgements, +which could prevent the connection from ever becoming idle. The endpoint MUST I don't think you need this MUST here. How about "The endpoint however includes acknowledgements for any non-ACK-eliciting packets as normal when it receives and acknowledges an ACK-eliciting packet." > @@ -2874,6 +2882,18 @@ sender to become limited by the congestion controller (as described in receiver. Therefore, a sender SHOULD ensure that other frames are sent in addition to PADDING frames to elicit acknowledgments from the receiver. +An endpoint that is only sending acknowledgements will not receive ```suggestion An endpoint that is only sending ACK frames will not receive ``` > @@ -2874,6 +2882,18 @@ sender to become limited by the congestion controller (as described in receiver. Therefore, a sender SHOULD ensure that other frames are sent in addition to PADDING frames to elicit acknowledgments from the receiver. +An endpoint that is only sending acknowledgements will not receive +acknowledgments from its peer unless those acknowledgements are included in ```suggestion acknowledgments from its peer. ``` > @@ -2874,6 +2882,18 @@ sender to become limited by the congestion controller (as described in receiver. Therefore, a sender SHOULD ensure that other frames are sent in addition to PADDING frames to elicit acknowledgments from the receiver. +An endpoint that is only sending acknowledgements will not receive +acknowledgments from its peer unless those acknowledgements are included in +packets with ACK-eliciting frames. A sender SHOULD bundle ACK frames with ```suggestion An endpoint SHOULD bundle ACK frames with ``` > @@ -2874,6 +2882,18 @@ sender to become limited by the congestion controller (as described in receiver. Therefore, a sender SHOULD ensure that other frames are sent in addition to PADDING frames to elicit acknowledgments from the receiver. +An endpoint that is only sending acknowledgements will not receive +acknowledgments from its peer unless those acknowledgements are included in +packets with ACK-eliciting frames. A sender SHOULD bundle ACK frames with +other frames when there are new ACK-eliciting packets to acknowledge. +When only non-ACK-eliciting packets need to be acknowledged, the sender MAY ```suggestion When only non-ACK-eliciting packets need to be acknowledged, an endpoint MAY ``` > To limit ACK Ranges (see {{ack-ranges}}) to those that have not yet been received by the sender, the receiver SHOULD track which ACK frames have been acknowledged by its peer. The receiver SHOULD exclude already acknowledged packets from future ACK frames whenever these packets would unnecessarily -contribute to the ACK frame size. - -Because ACK frames are not sent in response to ACK-only packets, a receiver that -is only sending ACK frames will only receive acknowledgements for its packets if -the sender includes them in packets with non-ACK frames. A sender SHOULD bundle -ACK frames with other frames when possible. +contribute to the ACK frame size. When the receiver is only sending +non-ACK-eliciting packets, it can bundle a PING with a fraction of them, such +as one per round trip, to enable dropping unnecessary ACK ranges and any state ```suggestion as once per round trip, to enable dropping unnecessary ACK ranges and any state ``` > To limit ACK Ranges (see {{ack-ranges}}) to those that have not yet been received by the sender, the receiver SHOULD track which ACK frames have been acknowledged by its peer. The receiver SHOULD exclude already acknowledged packets from future ACK frames whenever these packets would unnecessarily -contribute to the ACK frame size. - -Because ACK frames are not sent in response to ACK-only packets, a receiver that -is only sending ACK frames will only receive acknowledgements for its packets if -the sender includes them in packets with non-ACK frames. A sender SHOULD bundle -ACK frames with other frames when possible. +contribute to the ACK frame size. When the receiver is only sending +non-ACK-eliciting packets, it can bundle a PING with a fraction of them, such +as one per round trip, to enable dropping unnecessary ACK ranges and any state +for previously sent packets. The receiver MUST NOT bundle a PING with all +packets that would otherwise not be ACK-eliciting, in order to avoid an +indefinite feedback loop of acknowledgements. ```suggestion infinite feedback loop of acknowledgements. ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2794#pullrequestreview-257183127 ----==_mimepart_5d1be0fd95568_341a3fe78e8cd95c2847e4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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nse=0D
-to a packet containing only ACK or PADDING frames, even if there are pac=
ket=0D
-gaps which precede the received packet. This prevents an indefinite feed=
back=0D
-loop of ACKs. The endpoint MUST however acknowledge packets containing o=
nly=0D
-ACK or PADDING frames when sending ACK frames in response to other packe=
ts.=0D
+An endpoint sends ACK frames to acknowledge packets it has received and=0D=

+processed. Sending ACK frames is the primary mechanism for advancing the=
 state=0D
+of a connection.=0D
=0D

This second sentence seems unnecessary.

=0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

=0D 
> @@ -2859,13 +2859,21 @@ valid frames? --&g=
t;=0D
 =0D
 ### Sending ACK Frames=0D
 =0D
-An endpoint MUST NOT send more than one packet containing only an ACK fr=
ame per=0D
-received packet that contains frames other than ACK and PADDING frames.=0D=

-An endpoint MUST NOT send a packet containing only an ACK frame in respo=
nse=0D
-to a packet containing only ACK or PADDING frames, even if there are pac=
ket=0D
-gaps which precede the received packet. This prevents an indefinite feed=
back=0D
-loop of ACKs. The endpoint MUST however acknowledge packets containing o=
nly=0D
-ACK or PADDING frames when sending ACK frames in response to other packe=
ts.=0D
+An endpoint sends ACK frames to acknowledge packets it has received and=0D=

+processed. Sending ACK frames is the primary mechanism for advancing the=
 state=0D
+of a connection.=0D
+=0D
+Packets containing only ACK frames are not congestion controlled, so the=
re are=0D
+limits on how frequently they can be sent.  An endpoint MUST NOT send mo=
re than=0D
+one packet containing only an ACK frame per received ACK-eliciting packe=
t=0D
=0D =E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D 
-one packet containing only an ACK frame per r=
eceived ACK-eliciting packet=0D
+one ACK-frame-only packet in response to receiving an ACK-eliciting pack=
et=0D
=0D =0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

=0D 
> -An endpoint MUST NOT send a packet contai=
ning only an ACK frame in response=0D
-to a packet containing only ACK or PADDING frames, even if there are pac=
ket=0D
-gaps which precede the received packet. This prevents an indefinite feed=
back=0D
-loop of ACKs. The endpoint MUST however acknowledge packets containing o=
nly=0D
-ACK or PADDING frames when sending ACK frames in response to other packe=
ts.=0D
+An endpoint sends ACK frames to acknowledge packets it has received and=0D=

+processed. Sending ACK frames is the primary mechanism for advancing the=
 state=0D
+of a connection.=0D
+=0D
+Packets containing only ACK frames are not congestion controlled, so the=
re are=0D
+limits on how frequently they can be sent.  An endpoint MUST NOT send mo=
re than=0D
+one packet containing only an ACK frame per received ACK-eliciting packe=
t=0D
+(one containing frames other than ACK and/or PADDING).  An endpoint MUST=
 NOT=0D
+send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response to a non-ACK-elic=
iting=0D
+packet (one containing only ACK and/or PADDING frames), even if there ar=
e=0D
+packet gaps which precede the received packet. Limiting the sending of A=
CK=0D
=0D =E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D 
-packet gaps which precede the received packet=
. Limiting the sending of ACK=0D
+packet gaps which precede the received packet. Limiting ACK=0D
=0D =0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

=0D 
> -to a packet containing only ACK or PADDIN=
G frames, even if there are packet=0D
-gaps which precede the received packet. This prevents an indefinite feed=
back=0D
-loop of ACKs. The endpoint MUST however acknowledge packets containing o=
nly=0D
-ACK or PADDING frames when sending ACK frames in response to other packe=
ts.=0D
+An endpoint sends ACK frames to acknowledge packets it has received and=0D=

+processed. Sending ACK frames is the primary mechanism for advancing the=
 state=0D
+of a connection.=0D
+=0D
+Packets containing only ACK frames are not congestion controlled, so the=
re are=0D
+limits on how frequently they can be sent.  An endpoint MUST NOT send mo=
re than=0D
+one packet containing only an ACK frame per received ACK-eliciting packe=
t=0D
+(one containing frames other than ACK and/or PADDING).  An endpoint MUST=
 NOT=0D
+send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response to a non-ACK-elic=
iting=0D
+packet (one containing only ACK and/or PADDING frames), even if there ar=
e=0D
+packet gaps which precede the received packet. Limiting the sending of A=
CK=0D
+frames avoids creating an indefinite feedback loop of acknowledgements,=0D=
=0D =E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D 
-frames avoids creating an indefinite feedback=
 loop of acknowledgements,=0D
+frames avoids an infinite feedback loop of acknowledgements,=0D
=0D =0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

=0D 
> -gaps which precede the received packet. T=
his prevents an indefinite feedback=0D
-loop of ACKs. The endpoint MUST however acknowledge packets containing o=
nly=0D
-ACK or PADDING frames when sending ACK frames in response to other packe=
ts.=0D
+An endpoint sends ACK frames to acknowledge packets it has received and=0D=

+processed. Sending ACK frames is the primary mechanism for advancing the=
 state=0D
+of a connection.=0D
+=0D
+Packets containing only ACK frames are not congestion controlled, so the=
re are=0D
+limits on how frequently they can be sent.  An endpoint MUST NOT send mo=
re than=0D
+one packet containing only an ACK frame per received ACK-eliciting packe=
t=0D
+(one containing frames other than ACK and/or PADDING).  An endpoint MUST=
 NOT=0D
+send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response to a non-ACK-elic=
iting=0D
+packet (one containing only ACK and/or PADDING frames), even if there ar=
e=0D
+packet gaps which precede the received packet. Limiting the sending of A=
CK=0D
+frames avoids creating an indefinite feedback loop of acknowledgements,=0D=

+which could prevent the connection from ever becoming idle. The endpoint=
 MUST=0D
=0D

I don't think you need this MUST here. How about "The endpoint however= includes acknowledgements for any non-ACK-eliciting packets as normal wh= en it receives and acknowledges an ACK-eliciting packet."

=0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

=0D 
> @@ -2874,6 +2882,18 @@ sender to become li=
mited by the congestion controller (as described in=0D
 receiver. Therefore, a sender SHOULD ensure that other frames are sent i=
n=0D
 addition to PADDING frames to elicit acknowledgments from the receiver.=0D=

 =0D
+An endpoint that is only sending acknowledgements will not receive=0D
=0D =E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D 
-An endpoint that is only sending acknowledgem=
ents will not receive=0D
+An endpoint that is only sending ACK frames will not receive=0D
=0D =0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

=0D 
> @@ -2874,6 +2882,18 @@ sender to become li=
mited by the congestion controller (as described in=0D
 receiver. Therefore, a sender SHOULD ensure that other frames are sent i=
n=0D
 addition to PADDING frames to elicit acknowledgments from the receiver.=0D=

 =0D
+An endpoint that is only sending acknowledgements will not receive=0D
+acknowledgments from its peer unless those acknowledgements are included=
 in=0D
=0D =E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D 
-acknowledgments from its peer unless those ac=
knowledgements are included in=0D
+acknowledgments from its peer.=0D
=0D =0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

=0D 
> @@ -2874,6 +2882,18 @@ sender to become li=
mited by the congestion controller (as described in=0D
 receiver. Therefore, a sender SHOULD ensure that other frames are sent i=
n=0D
 addition to PADDING frames to elicit acknowledgments from the receiver.=0D=

 =0D
+An endpoint that is only sending acknowledgements will not receive=0D
+acknowledgments from its peer unless those acknowledgements are included=
 in=0D
+packets with ACK-eliciting frames.  A sender SHOULD bundle ACK frames wi=
th=0D
=0D =E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D 
-packets with ACK-eliciting frames.  A sender =
SHOULD bundle ACK frames with=0D
+An endpoint SHOULD bundle ACK frames with=0D
=0D =0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

=0D 
> @@ -2874,6 +2882,18 @@ sender to become li=
mited by the congestion controller (as described in=0D
 receiver. Therefore, a sender SHOULD ensure that other frames are sent i=
n=0D
 addition to PADDING frames to elicit acknowledgments from the receiver.=0D=

 =0D
+An endpoint that is only sending acknowledgements will not receive=0D
+acknowledgments from its peer unless those acknowledgements are included=
 in=0D
+packets with ACK-eliciting frames.  A sender SHOULD bundle ACK frames wi=
th=0D
+other frames when there are new ACK-eliciting packets to acknowledge.=0D=

+When only non-ACK-eliciting packets need to be acknowledged, the sender =
MAY=0D
=0D =E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D 
-When only non-ACK-eliciting packets need to b=
e acknowledged, the sender MAY=0D
+When only non-ACK-eliciting packets need to be acknowledged, an endpoint=
 MAY=0D
=0D =0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

=0D 
>  To limit ACK Ranges (see {{ack-ranges}}) =
to those that have not yet been=0D
 received by the sender, the receiver SHOULD track which ACK frames have =
been=0D
 acknowledged by its peer. The receiver SHOULD exclude already acknowledg=
ed=0D
 packets from future ACK frames whenever these packets would unnecessaril=
y=0D
-contribute to the ACK frame size.=0D
-=0D
-Because ACK frames are not sent in response to ACK-only packets, a recei=
ver that=0D
-is only sending ACK frames will only receive acknowledgements for its pa=
ckets if=0D
-the sender includes them in packets with non-ACK frames.  A sender SHOUL=
D bundle=0D
-ACK frames with other frames when possible.=0D
+contribute to the ACK frame size.  When the receiver is only sending=0D
+non-ACK-eliciting packets, it can bundle a PING with a fraction of them,=
 such=0D
+as one per round trip, to enable dropping unnecessary ACK ranges and any=
 state=0D
=0D =E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D 
-as one per round trip, to enable dropping unn=
ecessary ACK ranges and any state=0D
+as once per round trip, to enable dropping unnecessary ACK ranges and an=
y state=0D
=0D =0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

=0D 
>  To limit ACK Ranges (see {{ack-ranges}}) =
to those that have not yet been=0D
 received by the sender, the receiver SHOULD track which ACK frames have =
been=0D
 acknowledged by its peer. The receiver SHOULD exclude already acknowledg=
ed=0D
 packets from future ACK frames whenever these packets would unnecessaril=
y=0D
-contribute to the ACK frame size.=0D
-=0D
-Because ACK frames are not sent in response to ACK-only packets, a recei=
ver that=0D
-is only sending ACK frames will only receive acknowledgements for its pa=
ckets if=0D
-the sender includes them in packets with non-ACK frames.  A sender SHOUL=
D bundle=0D
-ACK frames with other frames when possible.=0D
+contribute to the ACK frame size.  When the receiver is only sending=0D
+non-ACK-eliciting packets, it can bundle a PING with a fraction of them,=
 such=0D
+as one per round trip, to enable dropping unnecessary ACK ranges and any=
 state=0D
+for previously sent packets.  The receiver MUST NOT bundle a PING with a=
ll=0D
+packets that would otherwise not be ACK-eliciting, in order to avoid an=0D=

+indefinite feedback loop of acknowledgements.=0D
=0D =E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D 
-indefinite feedback loop of acknowledgements.=
=0D
+infinite feedback loop of acknowledgements.=0D
=0D =0D =0D

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2510,7 +2510,8 @@ Reset in response, which could lead to an infinite exchange.
 An endpoint MUST ensure that every Stateless Reset that it sends is smaller than
 the packet which triggered it, unless it maintains state sufficient to prevent
 looping.  In the event of a loop, this results in packets eventually being too
-small to trigger a response.
+small to trigger a response.  An endpoint MAY choose not to send a Stateless
+Reset in response to a packet that is smaller than 40 bytes.

The existing text was confusing, but I don'd see how this text is relevant to looping?

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Thanks Jana, I accepted or integrated variations on all your suggestions except one. > @@ -2859,13 +2859,21 @@ valid frames? --> ### Sending ACK Frames -An endpoint MUST NOT send more than one packet containing only an ACK frame per -received packet that contains frames other than ACK and PADDING frames. -An endpoint MUST NOT send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response -to a packet containing only ACK or PADDING frames, even if there are packet -gaps which precede the received packet. This prevents an indefinite feedback -loop of ACKs. The endpoint MUST however acknowledge packets containing only -ACK or PADDING frames when sending ACK frames in response to other packets. +An endpoint sends ACK frames to acknowledge packets it has received and +processed. Sending ACK frames is the primary mechanism for advancing the state +of a connection. Agreed, removed. > @@ -2874,6 +2882,18 @@ sender to become limited by the congestion controller (as described in receiver. Therefore, a sender SHOULD ensure that other frames are sent in addition to PADDING frames to elicit acknowledgments from the receiver. +An endpoint that is only sending acknowledgements will not receive +acknowledgments from its peer unless those acknowledgements are included in Isn't the existing text more accurate(minus the sender/endpoint change)? > @@ -2859,13 +2859,16 @@ valid frames? --> ### Sending ACK Frames -An endpoint MUST NOT send more than one packet containing only an ACK frame per -received packet that contains frames other than ACK and PADDING frames. -An endpoint MUST NOT send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response -to a packet containing only ACK or PADDING frames, even if there are packet -gaps which precede the received packet. This prevents an indefinite feedback -loop of ACKs. The endpoint MUST however acknowledge packets containing only -ACK or PADDING frames when sending ACK frames in response to other packets. +Packets containing only ACK frames are not congestion controlled, so there are +limits on how frequently they can be sent. An endpoint MUST NOT send more than +one packet containing only an ACK frame per received ACK-eliciting packet +(one containing frames other than ACK and/or PADDING). An endpoint MUST NOT +send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response to a non-ACK-eliciting The existing text follows what TCP does as closely as I can manage, which I think is the best prior art we can follow here. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2794#pullrequestreview-257189796 ----==_mimepart_5d1be56e498f5_54293f87e06cd96c103662 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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Thanks Jana, I accepted or integrated variations on all your suggestions except one.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2859,13 +2859,21 @@ valid frames? -->
 
 ### Sending ACK Frames
 
-An endpoint MUST NOT send more than one packet containing only an ACK frame per
-received packet that contains frames other than ACK and PADDING frames.
-An endpoint MUST NOT send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response
-to a packet containing only ACK or PADDING frames, even if there are packet
-gaps which precede the received packet. This prevents an indefinite feedback
-loop of ACKs. The endpoint MUST however acknowledge packets containing only
-ACK or PADDING frames when sending ACK frames in response to other packets.
+An endpoint sends ACK frames to acknowledge packets it has received and
+processed. Sending ACK frames is the primary mechanism for advancing the state
+of a connection.

Agreed, removed.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2874,6 +2882,18 @@ sender to become limited by the congestion controller (as described in
 receiver. Therefore, a sender SHOULD ensure that other frames are sent in
 addition to PADDING frames to elicit acknowledgments from the receiver.
 
+An endpoint that is only sending acknowledgements will not receive
+acknowledgments from its peer unless those acknowledgements are included in

Isn't the existing text more accurate(minus the sender/endpoint change)?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2859,13 +2859,16 @@ valid frames? -->
 
 ### Sending ACK Frames
 
-An endpoint MUST NOT send more than one packet containing only an ACK frame per
-received packet that contains frames other than ACK and PADDING frames.
-An endpoint MUST NOT send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response
-to a packet containing only ACK or PADDING frames, even if there are packet
-gaps which precede the received packet. This prevents an indefinite feedback
-loop of ACKs. The endpoint MUST however acknowledge packets containing only
-ACK or PADDING frames when sending ACK frames in response to other packets.
+Packets containing only ACK frames are not congestion controlled, so there are
+limits on how frequently they can be sent.  An endpoint MUST NOT send more than
+one packet containing only an ACK frame per received ACK-eliciting packet
+(one containing frames other than ACK and/or PADDING).  An endpoint MUST NOT
+send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response to a non-ACK-eliciting

The existing text follows what TCP does as closely as I can manage, which I think is the best prior art we can follow here.

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I added two separate commits to shift the error code space to start from 0x100 (plays well with QPACK codes starting 0x200), and to apply @kazuho's proposed ordering. I didn't add any wordsmithing to explain this order as it didn't seem crucial.

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My point is that the packet is invalid, if it is sent to a client that you know uses longer connection IDs. The middlebox can then reliably identify the packet as being a stateless reset. All it needs to know is that that client never uses shorter connection IDs. That's not difficult; we don't assume that this sort of information is a secret.

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The only rule is that the CID can't become 0 length, so why is it invalid? If the middlebox can't reliably identify the packet as invalid, it's all a matter of statistics and how much of an anomaly it is. Sure, maybe it's an anomaly for CIDs to go from 18 to 1, but I don't think that's the most likely anomaly on the internet(see below).

I think the existing rule is actively harmful in multiple ways, one of which is a possible escalation of the minimum client packet size mentioned above.

The more problematic issue is that the goal is to have stateless reset not stick out and be clearly identifiable. If so, we want the widest selection of sizes possible. Given servers are going to want to send stateless resets smaller than the client's packet, a fixed size is going to stick out and the larger the minimum fixed size, the more it's going to stick out. In particular, 40 is enough larger than the typical 'small' server to client packet(ie: ACK) that it's relatively unlikely on a typical connection. If 90%+ of 40 byte payloads are stateless rejects, then we have failed at our goal and I think that's where we're at today.

To come back to my previous suggestion, why can't the client enforce this?

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Thank you for the changes.

FWIW, my point was that trying to use the same codepoints for the some errors does not make sense (I think @ianswett's comment captures my feeling). I did not mean that we need to avoid using different block of codepoints than that of HTTP/2.

That said, I would not oppose from starting at 0x100.

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----==_mimepart_5d1c1cc919e98_19fd3fb7670cd95c1364c4-- From nobody Tue Jul 2 20:29:36 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B1ED1201A3 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2019 20:29:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FhMZ3QmeGi0P for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2019 20:29:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 78BF01201A8 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2019 20:29:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2019 20:29:26 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1562124566; bh=ma72kS+mq7FTINj2uaNzKtcRy/dNXvhYTcdbvdoVL6M=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=t60Y2/mE6sVhXsHfyPOu+kGOZ0tc9I3Wt1xSDTk8XuiNcWdm6hSqECmmDsTmbvgZx iPe1TkG0CT1nswMdO/7kSV8a6dcvgNDi4Lr7Gi98iAvct2ycPTWUGuxtNqynp/orwo Ergt7lfianPUWw1tkoFwHR9QsSxReNo1D17EIt88= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clarify ACK of ACKs and bundling a PING (#2794) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d1c2116997b7_7fce3fa695ecd96832194e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2019 03:29:35 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d1c2116997b7_7fce3fa695ecd96832194e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson approved this pull request. So many comments, so much opportunity for this to get worse if we don't stop. > @@ -2883,16 +2901,20 @@ needing acknowledgement are received. The sender can use the receiver's Strategies and implications of the frequency of generating acknowledgments are discussed in more detail in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}. + +### Limiting ACK ranges ```suggestion ### Limiting ACK Ranges ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2794#pullrequestreview-257244661 ----==_mimepart_5d1c2116997b7_7fce3fa695ecd96832194e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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It's not generically invalid, it's only invalid in a particular context. And we have to assume that our adversary understands that context better than the endpoint that generates the stateless reset. That's all.

To be clear, we don't expressly forbid sending of a smaller stateless reset, only strongly imply that it won't be effective. So I'm struggling to understand what you would concretely do here.

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A sender might choose to optimize this by setting the timer fewer times if it knows that more ack-eliciting packets will be sent within a short period of time. +The probe timer is not set if the time threshold {{time-threshold}} loss +detection timer is set. The time threshold loss detection timer is expected +to both expire earlier than the PTO and be less likely to spuriously retransmit +data. The Initial and Handshake packet number spaces will typically contain a +small number of packets, so losses are less likely to be detected using +packet-threshold loss detection. + +## Handshakes and new paths ```suggestion ## Handshakes and New Paths ``` > @@ -1283,7 +1237,7 @@ OnLossDetectionTimeout(): SendOneHandshakePacket() else: SendOnePaddedInitialPacket() - crypto_count++ + pto_count++ ```suggestion pto_count++ ``` The alignment looks off here. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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I think the issue is that there are two types of migration: "Direct" migration, where an endpoint changes to a new path and it is in their interest to also change the CID (to reduce trackability), and "indirect" migration, i.e., NAT rebinding, where a middlebox changes the path for an endpoint in a way that they are unaware of and therefore cannot initiate a CID migration for. Both of there are valid, but they are slightly different.

Is it sufficient to clarify that for a direct migration, a CID change SHOULD happen, and for an indirect migration, it (generally) cannot, and that the peer must handle both?

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@ianswett can this be closed with no action?

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I think the discussion supports closing with no action

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This was implied, but not explicit previously.

Closes #2823.

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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Jul 2 23:39:24 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDA53120135 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2019 23:39:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.596 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.596 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id n7K9RqV7_E6A for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2019 23:39:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E4B041200B2 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2019 23:39:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2019 23:39:19 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1562135959; bh=4EbtFofA1juDSRV4GnRTK/yudoU2kL9M2S1ffSjmKiY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=aepNjNVuHKZj3192/y65EnLY3Dqhjq6Mgj3gLd3kOo0lecgyHRApVy/jQghe4DuxY Jpij+Tmpt7OZFOZ6AMp1cGbrNvwaLRggEdCyzVF8J4KOGiZZznigZpSYGZXUxdhNR3 cONPVKhq0loEte3+xQAkHiFfOJ7sCODE5o56JTrQ= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] CID change still required in response to migration? (#2778) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d1c4d97ac70d_68043fc715ccd960340675"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2019 06:39:23 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d1c4d97ac70d_68043fc715ccd960340675 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @larseggert I like the way you categorize migration. > Is it sufficient to clarify that for a direct migration, a CID change SHOULD happen, and for an indirect migration, it (generally) cannot, and that the peer must handle both? Does that mean in practical sense that clients SHOULD change CID for direct migration, and that servers SHOULD respond to a CID change with a CID change? Assuming that is what we are seeking, I think it might be a good idea to clarify using a non-RFC2199 term that is effectively what we recommend (I understand that we prefer talking about "endpoints"). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2778#issuecomment-507961252 ----==_mimepart_5d1c4d97ac70d_68043fc715ccd960340675 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@larseggert I like the way you categorize migration.

Is it sufficient to clarify that for a direct migration, a CID change SHOULD happen, and for an indirect migration, it (generally) cannot, and that the peer must handle both?

Does that mean in practical sense that clients SHOULD change CID for direct migration, and that servers SHOULD respond to a CID change with a CID change?

Assuming that is what we are seeking, I think it might be a good idea to clarify using a non-RFC2199 term that is effectively what we recommend (I understand that we prefer talking about "endpoints").

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Client don't change CID in indirect migration because it does not aware of it.
Regardless of direct or indirect migration, server knows the packet is coming from new path (new remote address and/or port).
So the question is server MAY/SHOULD/MUST change CID when sending a packet to new path.

Current draft says that it is MUST to change CID on direct migration:

An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID if it initiates connection migration.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -543,49 +544,46 @@ delay sending an acknowledgement.
 The PTO value MUST be set to at least kGranularity, to avoid the timer expiring
 immediately.
 
-When a PTO timer expires, the sender probes the network as described in the next
-section. The PTO period MUST be set to twice its current value. This exponential
-reduction in the sender's rate is important because the PTOs might be caused by
-loss of packets or acknowledgements due to severe congestion.
+When a PTO timer expires, the PTO period MUST be set to twice its current
+value. This exponential reduction in the sender's rate is important because
+the PTOs might be caused by loss of packets or acknowledgements due to severe
+congestion.

Would we want some upper limit or this? What happens if idle timeout is not set - just indefinite inactivity?

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An option would also to keep MUST change CID on direct migration and add that a en endpoint SHOULD not reject a migration that doesn't change CID because it might be a valid indirect migration. An endpoint MAY, however, reject indirect migrations that do not change CID if this is privacy is considered more important than broad interop (this is controversial).

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -543,49 +544,46 @@ delay sending an acknowledgement.
 The PTO value MUST be set to at least kGranularity, to avoid the timer expiring
 immediately.
 
-When a PTO timer expires, the sender probes the network as described in the next
-section. The PTO period MUST be set to twice its current value. This exponential
-reduction in the sender's rate is important because the PTOs might be caused by
-loss of packets or acknowledgements due to severe congestion.
+When a PTO timer expires, the PTO period MUST be set to twice its current
+value. This exponential reduction in the sender's rate is important because
+the PTOs might be caused by loss of packets or acknowledgements due to severe
+congestion.

Why would there be no idle timeout?

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@mikkelfj commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -543,49 +544,46 @@ delay sending an acknowledgement.
 The PTO value MUST be set to at least kGranularity, to avoid the timer expiring
 immediately.
 
-When a PTO timer expires, the sender probes the network as described in the next
-section. The PTO period MUST be set to twice its current value. This exponential
-reduction in the sender's rate is important because the PTOs might be caused by
-loss of packets or acknowledgements due to severe congestion.
+When a PTO timer expires, the PTO period MUST be set to twice its current
+value. This exponential reduction in the sender's rate is important because
+the PTOs might be caused by loss of packets or acknowledgements due to severe
+congestion.

There should be, and maybe that is the answer. But I think a change was made to allow idle timeout to be indefinite. So I wonder how that will affect PTO.

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@marten-seemann commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -543,49 +544,46 @@ delay sending an acknowledgement.
 The PTO value MUST be set to at least kGranularity, to avoid the timer expiring
 immediately.
 
-When a PTO timer expires, the sender probes the network as described in the next
-section. The PTO period MUST be set to twice its current value. This exponential
-reduction in the sender's rate is important because the PTOs might be caused by
-loss of packets or acknowledgements due to severe congestion.
+When a PTO timer expires, the PTO period MUST be set to twice its current
+value. This exponential reduction in the sender's rate is important because
+the PTOs might be caused by loss of packets or acknowledgements due to severe
+congestion.

I don't remember any change like that. Every peer decides on its idle timeout. So even if a peer decides to have an infinite idle timeout (why would you do that to yourself?), once you reach a PTO duration on the order of what you might consider a typical idle timeout (let's say 30 seconds), exponential backoff should take care of your concern.

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----==_mimepart_5d1c77a4bd163_29da3fcfa18cd95c4470e8-- From nobody Wed Jul 3 02:41:07 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E7EE12003E for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 02:41:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.596 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.596 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zFqf5M_suFMX for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 02:41:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8516D120019 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 02:41:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2019 02:41:03 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1562146863; bh=14lrAR/vEsz4ylKFUQ32iR7/kNlyMiOTKLC0CrYP6uQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=zq5mbxGgrp1nqX99omaQE0Cd5CvsAuk8FmS9ctPmGlw3HDPHhlWhttiIut+TUK7ej JR82KmsjePZSc5QZgxY+HN2WgOcUuvQiBwLab2QtRS0c3ekXfuxdEL7gkeYaV6/gSH ff+EXHbZHB+Uh4y7MaEo6/MJyIDO+jXYJWwTOhcM= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Merge Crypto timeout and PTO (#2806) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d1c782f5c167_2a553feddb4cd96c467927"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2019 09:41:06 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d1c782f5c167_2a553feddb4cd96c467927 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mikkelfj commented on this pull request. > @@ -543,49 +544,46 @@ delay sending an acknowledgement. The PTO value MUST be set to at least kGranularity, to avoid the timer expiring immediately. -When a PTO timer expires, the sender probes the network as described in the next -section. The PTO period MUST be set to twice its current value. This exponential -reduction in the sender's rate is important because the PTOs might be caused by -loss of packets or acknowledgements due to severe congestion. +When a PTO timer expires, the PTO period MUST be set to twice its current +value. This exponential reduction in the sender's rate is important because +the PTOs might be caused by loss of packets or acknowledgements due to severe +congestion. Thats what I am asking - should the PTO just grow, or would you clamp it to 30 seconds or something? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2806#discussion_r299867970 ----==_mimepart_5d1c782f5c167_2a553feddb4cd96c467927 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@mikkelfj commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -543,49 +544,46 @@ delay sending an acknowledgement.
 The PTO value MUST be set to at least kGranularity, to avoid the timer expiring
 immediately.
 
-When a PTO timer expires, the sender probes the network as described in the next
-section. The PTO period MUST be set to twice its current value. This exponential
-reduction in the sender's rate is important because the PTOs might be caused by
-loss of packets or acknowledgements due to severe congestion.
+When a PTO timer expires, the PTO period MUST be set to twice its current
+value. This exponential reduction in the sender's rate is important because
+the PTOs might be caused by loss of packets or acknowledgements due to severe
+congestion.

Thats what I am asking - should the PTO just grow, or would you clamp it to 30 seconds or something?

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@tatsuhiro-t bit when a server sees the client using a new path (because of a NAT rebind) the server is not the one initiating the migration

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At the minimum, the first sentence of the "Initial Secrets" section needs to be revised. I'd prefer to understand the design rationale for when initial keys change (and possibly incorporate that into the edit). Right now I don't understand the "why" of option 3.

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----==_mimepart_5d1ceaa8df062_5ca73fa1364cd9687670-- From nobody Wed Jul 3 10:53:14 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E519012038E for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 10:53:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XXBNpwwbxu0g for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 10:53:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E28071202F9 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 10:53:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2019 10:53:08 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1562176388; bh=1JKuJegUrFZDVSKgA7Q4cLraYGO1hPkktm28jIBMksU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=jAKe0CRI6YtsaJF2ZR0pjH2DV1g4MXcecdDcp8yK9aqDcNduQkxmsaLqzsKVyLb/E LMZHidEq76pv1v/MZyhxxqQCpRY3Bn362jl0iLCb90EJ3AacSNMaf45fy/KggKmUu8 85KfAsZKndENoR1TEOreDzgiCo2M/0xKDM8gPPdQ= From: Nick Harper Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Initial secrets change after Retry (#2870) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d1ceb84cb67f_4e913fdd7c0cd96c116243"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nharper X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2019 17:53:12 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d1ceb84cb67f_4e913fdd7c0cd96c116243 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think this also needs to change the first sentence that currently says = "Initial packets are protected with a secret derived from the Destination= Connection ID field from the client=E2=80=99s first Initial packet of th= e connection."=0D =0D If we're attempting to describe the behavior that people currently have i= mplemented (where Initial keys change on a Retry packet but nothing else)= , the sentence I've quoted above is false.=0D =0D -- =0D You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.=0D Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub:=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2870#issuecomment-508194040= ----==_mimepart_5d1ceb84cb67f_4e913fdd7c0cd96c116243 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I think this also needs to change the first sentence that currently sa= ys "Initial packets are protected with a secret derived from the Destinat= ion Connection ID field from the client=E2=80=99s first Initial packet of= the connection."

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If we're attempting to describe the behavior that people currently hav= e implemented (where Initial keys change on a Retry packet but nothing el= se), the sentence I've quoted above is false.

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@martinthomson What is this adversary trying to accomplish here? Can you elaborate on threat vector? The number 39 is reducing the reliability of the protocol, what security property does it give us in exchange?

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@larseggert If we decide to not change the current requirement to change the CID, this issue should track adding editorial text explaining why we require changing it.

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Sec 13.2 of QUIC Transport explains what to do for the loss of a packet for every stream type except NEW_TOKEN.

IMO it's nice but not critical to repair this loss, but I care less about how we resolve it than that we write it up.

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----==_mimepart_5d1d227f4b5d8_114b3fec9a8cd9642605d-- From nobody Wed Jul 3 18:34:09 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08A0F1200E7 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 18:34:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CmA5LcHw_-bE for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 18:34:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 00C911200D7 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 18:34:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2019 18:34:04 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1562204044; bh=iJrySXQ/bGUn5tnqeIWyj5BUFhRxxMnAihPGuFYs82k=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=yLxnTu0yRXDOxf+5QXo6fQe7lO3No95FlWVikXHhpM2ljINYSrbrMELqUQF6gL4m8 UYcWdue6zZC3IC9gPhmJ+Fgd0D7TGYekcVi9U/9+xtfwJSlSptI5n3Gbr9pFu7UWm1 hy3A0BJAA1gWfJS+r+e6GJuE2EkLMQxPFiL35bBM= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Stateless Reset packet sizes should not depend on the maximum connection ID length (#2869) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d1d578ca93c4_74d3f9332ccd9682127b1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2019 01:34:08 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d1d578ca93c4_74d3f9332ccd9682127b1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I believe that we wanted to avoid the observer from being able to recognize resets. The idea being that recognition preceded some sort of action. The worst I can imagine here is dropping state prior to the endpoints being ready for that. For instance, forwarding the packet and then dropping NAT bindings immediately, which - if that packet is lost - might leave the recipient with the belief that it still has an active connection when it does not. The point being that we're attempting to avoid facilitation of bad behaviour. Perhaps you can talk about the way in which you perceive reliability being reduced. 39 isn't exactly a very large number, nor is it a hard limit. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2869#issuecomment-508306030 ----==_mimepart_5d1d578ca93c4_74d3f9332ccd9682127b1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I believe that we wanted to avoid the observer from being able to recognize resets. The idea being that recognition preceded some sort of action. The worst I can imagine here is dropping state prior to the endpoints being ready for that. For instance, forwarding the packet and then dropping NAT bindings immediately, which - if that packet is lost - might leave the recipient with the belief that it still has an active connection when it does not.

The point being that we're attempting to avoid facilitation of bad behaviour.

Perhaps you can talk about the way in which you perceive reliability being reduced. 39 isn't exactly a very large number, nor is it a hard limit.

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(#2823) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d1d5875db3b6_2f6b3fb8c84cd96417677c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2019 01:38:02 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d1d5875db3b6_2f6b3fb8c84cd96417677c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't believe that we have any responsibility to document "why" for anything. In this case, my understanding is that Reset is intended to be largely stateless. 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I don't believe that we have any responsibility to document "why" for anything. In this case, my understanding is that Reset is intended to be largely stateless. If it were stateless, then the token would need to carry the original destination connection ID (or the derived key), and that would need to be extracted before the packet could be processed.

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Fixes #2550.

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I don't believe that we have any responsibility to document "why" for anything.

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I'm happy for this to be marked as editorial and then we can explain why we require changing it.

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[ci skip] From nobody Fri Jul 5 17:39:39 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F06F71200DB for ; Fri, 5 Jul 2019 17:39:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id F9D1ZqlB20ki for ; Fri, 5 Jul 2019 17:39:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9B6F91200A3 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 2019 17:39:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2019 17:39:33 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1562373573; bh=p7+xiN8h2785ZpSU71f/+obnWCUX5UDmH6lD22Z2MdM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=XMwrTwCyR0UFDccKXhVOL89GeP3BLKGqqOfYRBqNdVxzS+Ddvc58yTdFqj/pGnYY+ 2zk3iQdF3jSS63eCaDO9eOqvMBdWgtgoiGQoWlRxF46iidHEI9NsgU33u5B2XyQWQk KhiXuguJ9Jqj9QOEefA/eGrYwwicIlydaZfOI7Tk= From: David Schinazi Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Stateless Reset packet sizes should not depend on the maximum connection ID length (#2869) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d1fedc5e013c_70eb3fd089ecd9683684c4"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: DavidSchinazi X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2019 00:39:38 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d1fedc5e013c_70eb3fd089ecd9683684c4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree with this threat model. We really want to avoid NATs reacting to stateless resets the way they react to TCP RSTs today. However, we've heard from implementors that the majority of QUIC traffic will not use client connection IDs. But there will be an implementation that uses them (either all the time, or at least some of the time, to apply grease to servers to make sure they support them). Let's assume there is a client implementation called CLIENT_18 that always uses 18-byte client CIDs. Do you think someone will go out of their way to implement code that detects CLIENT_18 traffic, and then installs a rule for those connections only where the detection of a server-to-client packet shorter than 39 bytes will drop the NAT mapping? This sounds about as likely as a NAT implementation that drops packets whose connection IDs are prime numbers... To answer your question on reliability: I think it will be common to have a client establish a connection, send some requests, get the responses, then idle for a few minutes, then after user action, sends another request. Assuming the server uses 8-byte CIDs, this will cause the client to send a packet than can easily be under 39 bytes (assuming a short request). Let's assume the server has restarted during the idle period. It won't recognize the connection ID. If the server decides that this packet is too short to trigger a stateless reset, then the client will timeout causing user-visible delays. For a protocol with such a goal of improving latency, a timeout is a critical failure. The issue here is that the spec doesn't mandate the client to pad its packets, and allows servers to not respond to short packets. Giving both implementations too much leeway is dangerous here. It would be in the spirit of the spec to be more prescriptive. We remove the 39-byte requirement, and tell servers that their stateless resets should be of length in the range `[min(39, client_packet_size - 1), max(39, client_packet_size - 1)]`. We then tell clients to pad their packets such that `packet_number_length + payload_length >= 4 + max(0, max_used_client_cid_length - server_cid_length)`. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2869#issuecomment-508884624 ----==_mimepart_5d1fedc5e013c_70eb3fd089ecd9683684c4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I agree with this threat model. We really want to avoid NATs reacting to stateless resets the way they react to TCP RSTs today.

However, we've heard from implementors that the majority of QUIC traffic will not use client connection IDs. But there will be an implementation that uses them (either all the time, or at least some of the time, to apply grease to servers to make sure they support them). Let's assume there is a client implementation called CLIENT_18 that always uses 18-byte client CIDs. Do you think someone will go out of their way to implement code that detects CLIENT_18 traffic, and then installs a rule for those connections only where the detection of a server-to-client packet shorter than 39 bytes will drop the NAT mapping? This sounds about as likely as a NAT implementation that drops packets whose connection IDs are prime numbers...

To answer your question on reliability: I think it will be common to have a client establish a connection, send some requests, get the responses, then idle for a few minutes, then after user action, sends another request. Assuming the server uses 8-byte CIDs, this will cause the client to send a packet than can easily be under 39 bytes (assuming a short request). Let's assume the server has restarted during the idle period. It won't recognize the connection ID. If the server decides that this packet is too short to trigger a stateless reset, then the client will timeout causing user-visible delays. For a protocol with such a goal of improving latency, a timeout is a critical failure.

The issue here is that the spec doesn't mandate the client to pad its packets, and allows servers to not respond to short packets. Giving both implementations too much leeway is dangerous here.

It would be in the spirit of the spec to be more prescriptive. We remove the 39-byte requirement, and tell servers that their stateless resets should be of length in the range [min(39, client_packet_size - 1), max(39, client_packet_size - 1)]. We then tell clients to pad their packets such that packet_number_length + payload_length >= 4 + max(0, max_used_client_cid_length - server_cid_length).

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=0D = ----==_mimepart_5d207af0e9903_7cb63fce9a2cd96047165-- From nobody Sun Jul 7 16:31:23 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C93401201ED for ; Sun, 7 Jul 2019 16:31:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oRN_7Ylt9Lk8 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 2019 16:31:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3764C120250 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 2019 16:31:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2019 16:31:13 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1562542273; bh=GvnE5322R+484V1RlYRRyWn8VrSDUYPyYMW/SafzShE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=V0CW8xySTLQn269PEO+whCaqijrAb2DzcdYbGOu987uHJyGBqNkzsVWC7CW1ZqKlJ FAhf3+3ZbIpc76qisjws5X4+RBRMcKW9MpCQOCwrNQpPMkiFoFplBTJLFh1SH/xt50 ZKQ1ZqUR9dvpNrkENoRZm9woRhCKuvvZJ+QCdKE8= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Stateless Reset packet sizes should not depend on the maximum connection ID length (#2869) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d2280c1a5c4b_7a203ffa9accd95c385580"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2019 23:31:22 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d2280c1a5c4b_7a203ffa9accd95c385580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I could live with that. That is a lot harder to write down, but I think that it might work. I wouldn't make the calculation so complex (just say that the minimum packet size is `maxcid+19` to account for 1 type byte, 1 data byte, and 16 auth tag bytes plus the connection ID length and the one extra byte we lose for the stateless reset) and I wouldn't tie it to a particular role (stateless reset is supposed to be symmetric, it's just that one direction in particular is more likely by far). We can leave the details to implementations. I was concerned about clients that were also identifiable by means easier than fingerprinting. Say someone who deployed client code in their server cluster, where connection IDs are far more likely as a client, for whom any packet (to a client or server) could be readily identified as a stateless reset by virtue of its size. Profiling by IP address would be easy for someone to do in that case. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2869#issuecomment-509039192 ----==_mimepart_5d2280c1a5c4b_7a203ffa9accd95c385580 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I could live with that. That is a lot harder to write down, but I think that it might work. I wouldn't make the calculation so complex (just say that the minimum packet size is maxcid+19 to account for 1 type byte, 1 data byte, and 16 auth tag bytes plus the connection ID length and the one extra byte we lose for the stateless reset) and I wouldn't tie it to a particular role (stateless reset is supposed to be symmetric, it's just that one direction in particular is more likely by far). We can leave the details to implementations.

I was concerned about clients that were also identifiable by means easier than fingerprinting. Say someone who deployed client code in their server cluster, where connection IDs are far more likely as a client, for whom any packet (to a client or server) could be readily identified as a stateless reset by virtue of its size. Profiling by IP address would be easy for someone to do in that case.

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Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2019 01:49:43 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: 6b587ac89ed89afc48026a391ab52da6f0c8c1e0 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6b587ac89ed89afc48026a391ab52da6f0c8c1e0 Author: Eric Kinnear Date: 2019-05-20 (Mon, 20 May 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- #2724: Don't store or retransmit PATH_RESPOSNE frames, avoid buffering too many Commit: e27a1c68f3e85eb79bb352a9e6b36b7d99bacc62 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e27a1c68f3e85eb79bb352a9e6b36b7d99bacc62 Author: Eric Kinnear <32474881+erickinnear@users.noreply.github.com> Date: 2019-05-21 (Tue, 21 May 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Co-Authored-By: Martin Thomson Commit: 52957ecb8dbc1740819661a2a87564addbc821ea https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/52957ecb8dbc1740819661a2a87564addbc821ea Author: Eric Kinnear Date: 2019-05-28 (Tue, 28 May 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Clarify the MUST, unless and indicate that the destination CID is sufficient for rate limiting Commit: d0d147a3a3db426ddba63ce139d0555fa8f26019 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d0d147a3a3db426ddba63ce139d0555fa8f26019 Author: Eric Kinnear Date: 2019-05-28 (Tue, 28 May 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Remove example Commit: ac8b8ef220b82e693fc5144e43463dc1b98fd1dc https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ac8b8ef220b82e693fc5144e43463dc1b98fd1dc Author: Eric Kinnear <32474881+erickinnear@users.noreply.github.com> Date: 2019-05-28 (Tue, 28 May 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Co-Authored-By: Martin Thomson Commit: c205b79ad75d9e67759dcb48994f3aef3b021715 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c205b79ad75d9e67759dcb48994f3aef3b021715 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-06-14 (Fri, 14 Jun 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Prohibit sending multiple PATH_RESPONSE Commit: f00f3d111f9ca642081e9c9dd2ce7c117081055b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f00f3d111f9ca642081e9c9dd2ce7c117081055b Author: Eric Kinnear Date: 2019-06-14 (Fri, 14 Jun 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Only one path response should be sent in response to a packet containing any number of path challenge frames Commit: 950ab2255168c827670234a01f8211ea68090d35 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/950ab2255168c827670234a01f8211ea68090d35 Author: Eric Kinnear Date: 2019-06-14 (Fri, 14 Jun 2019) Changed paths: M CONTRIBUTING.md M draft-ietf-quic-http.md M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md A workflow.png A workflow.xml Log Message: ----------- Merge branch 'master' into dont_retransmit_path_response Commit: bef17653caa29d28e96fa825ad34ef4ce8345d70 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/bef17653caa29d28e96fa825ad34ef4ce8345d70 Author: Eric Kinnear Date: 2019-06-14 (Fri, 14 Jun 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Remove requirement on responders to PATH_CHALLENGE Commit: 3c0d1f7297091d0e0cff31d7850fa1c557f2d130 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3c0d1f7297091d0e0cff31d7850fa1c557f2d130 Author: Eric Kinnear Date: 2019-06-17 (Mon, 17 Jun 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Update with Jana's wording suggestion Commit: b7c58fd9f4eebc161964f87aff2a33471395f874 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b7c58fd9f4eebc161964f87aff2a33471395f874 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-07-08 (Mon, 08 Jul 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #2729 from erickinnear/dont_retransmit_path_response Don't store or retransmit PATH_RESPONSE frames, avoid buffering Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/6a71414dbad7...b7c58fd9f4ee From nobody Sun Jul 7 18:49:52 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB3D412010C for ; 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[ci skip] From nobody Sun Jul 7 18:51:09 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7BA51200D7 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 2019 18:51:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id O9FrI9on5gAx for ; Sun, 7 Jul 2019 18:51:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8782B1200B7 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 2019 18:51:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2019 18:51:01 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1562550661; bh=f3w7jfAQ8LbTIY593PkY6OyBIE3W08gvasAA/KJ9JCk=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=xQMQHkQ7OANqR/eyF1cN0aGpFU+IPWxyabb10m1nKT9etT5/995knqdTi4qHaXHZY QL708+PjA8gEHvwPDKfmbP7iLD0a/x4YjCq8vWKAwpttLtY20Br/RZpdZvj99bF5jt 3CWQKdJnvyWuIgCFbHaDMxoHygnPf50mQZ3X/MTo= From: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] 99ced9: Clarify ACK of ACKs and bundling a PING Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2019 01:51:08 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: 99ced9ef1199ad0efb5eb906171e994fda6826fd https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/99ced9ef1199ad0efb5eb906171e994fda6826fd Author: ianswett Date: 2019-06-14 (Fri, 14 Jun 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Clarify ACK of ACKs and bundling a PING Fixes #2546 If there's anything else discussed in London that I missed, please tell me. 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Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2019 01:51:45 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: ef52e69f22902e6c85a0b2a60cae09defd9a9d43 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ef52e69f22902e6c85a0b2a60cae09defd9a9d43 Author: huitema Date: 2019-01-26 (Sat, 26 Jan 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- State requirement that clients must wait until ACK of 1-RTT message before initiating connection migration. Commit: e449a442086ecaf478c7a2b002a3f43c1a4b17b7 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e449a442086ecaf478c7a2b002a3f43c1a4b17b7 Author: huitema Date: 2019-01-27 (Sun, 27 Jan 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Update the proposed migration text based on comments. Commit: cdaf4ff621a0a6f2ed841c758828ec3610f0cb6c https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/cdaf4ff621a0a6f2ed841c758828ec3610f0cb6c Author: huitema Date: 2019-01-27 (Sun, 27 Jan 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Add handshake completion section so we can have a single reference. Refer to that when specifying whento initiate migration. Commit: 4b096a19558f17aa9539868cd4767f6dbb0b0203 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4b096a19558f17aa9539868cd4767f6dbb0b0203 Author: huitema Date: 2019-01-31 (Thu, 31 Jan 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Per Tokyo interop: editors will complete the section "handshake completion", and the migration conditions will then be explained. Commit: 3a11ef01f6736ca7e3a4ec58c2a43614c5444e08 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3a11ef01f6736ca7e3a4ec58c2a43614c5444e08 Author: Christian Huitema Date: 2019-06-04 (Tue, 04 Jun 2019) Changed paths: M CONTRIBUTING.md M README.md M draft-ietf-quic-http.md M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md R draft-ietf-quic-spin-exp.md M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md M initial-protection.js M tag.sh A workflow.png A workflow.xml Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #12 from quicwg/master Align with master 2019/06/04 Commit: 7312d63a4ee85cd125b97d3868a9572f129e0120 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7312d63a4ee85cd125b97d3868a9572f129e0120 Author: Christian Huitema Date: 2019-06-04 (Tue, 04 Jun 2019) Changed paths: M CONTRIBUTING.md M README.md M draft-ietf-quic-http.md M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md R draft-ietf-quic-spin-exp.md M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md M initial-protection.js M tag.sh A workflow.png A workflow.xml Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #13 from huitema/master align with master Commit: 23bacec76b1a30d8cb2119f7cb8c085c02524973 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/23bacec76b1a30d8cb2119f7cb8c085c02524973 Author: huitema Date: 2019-06-04 (Tue, 04 Jun 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Reference "handshake confrmed" for connection migration. Commit: 0cefaa1ddf7680bc5d04133fd93e8216c57ceae7 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0cefaa1ddf7680bc5d04133fd93e8216c57ceae7 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-06-11 (Tue, 11 Jun 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Whitespace edits Commit: 84eee53493ff81dbec79e13a70196c4fb8ea3c58 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/84eee53493ff81dbec79e13a70196c4fb8ea3c58 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-07-08 (Mon, 08 Jul 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #2370 from huitema/stronger-migration-handshake Stronger migration handshake Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/3685b650c27f...84eee53493ff From nobody Sun Jul 7 18:51:58 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32EC21200F5 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 2019 18:51:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6lOazXb6dcpC for ; Sun, 7 Jul 2019 18:51:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 593251200D7 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 2019 18:51:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2019 18:51:48 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1562550708; bh=jL0Uii0x/9DsyDjFgcV1QBBLAeLJ0pNNJPBUVyexXU4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Z6fIb+BXvuM4SjIFq8U7/acKdpNrajjBWEsRo33sDak9iESJ4E6tEBvq806ozTbrd FOfQiEmdFnWFTQ6XMMH6Q9ntH0S53B+I1Z0MUycj1blZFOXZ4CpDbwRWmyvJRbJGoM viU0bEZJa6cAY/FSh+zf/3MQ2VncTB3PgjZ6DxRE= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Migration before handshake completed is very messy (#2309) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d22a1b42a6e4_106a3fb5df4cd96438000"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2019 01:51:51 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d22a1b42a6e4_106a3fb5df4cd96438000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Closed #2309 via #2370. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Note that I didn't include this in the changelog for -21. It seems entirely editorial to my reading.

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That was never an interoperability requirement, just a suggestion. So I think that this should be reverted. If it isn't, using the active voice might be better. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2780#issuecomment-509055369 ----==_mimepart_5d22a79e87d90_7bd83fa900ecd964109385 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

That was never an interoperability requirement, just a suggestion. So I think that this should be reverted.

If it isn't, using the active voice might be better.

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You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2875 -- Commit Summary -- * Change log for -21 -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (24) M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md (6) M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md (7) M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md (6) M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (29) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2875.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2875.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2875 ----==_mimepart_5d22aa445f174_73263fd9f64cd96010365d5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Enjoy, but don't savour it for too long because I plan to merge this before the draft deadline hits.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2875

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[ci skip] From nobody Sun Jul 7 23:41:17 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A6EA1200FB for ; Sun, 7 Jul 2019 23:41:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4QLWYs5EO7vZ for ; Sun, 7 Jul 2019 23:41:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BB81B120099 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 2019 23:41:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2019 23:41:12 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1562568072; bh=vOLafOq/mmpDkJ5LCUN6jbtq7BSEPzFLasJhcmB1BRg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=XdAzPE9O3SVAIXJM+Od+OTGpnDBxF/e2LGVQtDGvas/QNa80r7TkIACcpV9rvQ73y kTMRLox6ZqCp03MHA5cSbkFYmesMsrJeNaKdWLiv5lSZY9n4cHl05uTs1VPSB1ZzFW 2kvma1Grd9BJbKo4EUKNpszD1JV+3V1Xl0llEqtQ= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Stateless Reset packet sizes should not depend on the maximum connection ID length (#2869) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d22e5888752a_10603fb5df4cd9641343030"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2019 06:41:15 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d22e5888752a_10603fb5df4cd9641343030 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What about small ACK-only packets? 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What about small ACK-only packets? Would they have to be padded - and what would the avg. cost be of that?

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I also agree that not recognizing resets is the goal, but I don't think we're currently achieving that for reasons stated above. And as David pointed out, I think there are allowed behaviors that would not elicit a stateless reset when you'd really like to have one sent.

Why maxcid length, not mincid length if we're trying to establish the lower bound on the packet size that could have been sent previously in the connection? Either way, mincid+19 works for me, since I'm mostly concerned about cases with 0, or small fixed CID lengths.

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You are right, it's the minimum length. For 0, that means 0.

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----==_mimepart_5d232cd75ea33_a683fa891ecd96011636f0-- From nobody Mon Jul 8 04:56:18 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49210120168 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2019 04:56:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.455 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.455 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ES7-NMkJ38fD for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2019 04:56:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 28305120159 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2019 04:56:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2019 04:56:11 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1562586971; bh=6SZ5w1OhQZfqmgeNTL1kadCxwFGji7ddfMhMMKZM8e0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=pGjjILQXI/TAl9DVRLcuk1g5hkN16V00lW1A+gwwQTHL+OKOuiUzFvPrjiiEWoxRn LXW5qWIeT3U0qpzOHfiStYxqD90O9rikW1mANyn4b2Gnova9jFCgu9ifzeBe98MLM6 VkPG0QAl2f2xQFN5rfrbtwVbvsgnAUk6u1HcGN6Q= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] grease transport parameters (#2873) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d232f5bcfece_20a93fe84e6cd95c398512"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2019 11:56:17 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d232f5bcfece_20a93fe84e6cd95c398512 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ianswett approved this pull request. Thanks for writing this up! -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2873#pullrequestreview-258853116 ----==_mimepart_5d232f5bcfece_20a93fe84e6cd95c398512 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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Documenting "why" some choices were made is not required, but it helps readers better understand the properties of the protocol, and helps spec contributors not have the same conversations every few months.

The retry token already needs to carry the original destination connection ID because the server MUST include it in the original_connection_id transport parameter.

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Section 10.4 contains a minor grammatical error:

Because the stateless reset token is not available until connection establishment is complete or near completion, ignoring an unknown packet with a long header might be as effective than sending a stateless reset.

It is unclear whether the author intended "as effective as" or "more effective than"

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -543,49 +544,46 @@ delay sending an acknowledgement.
 The PTO value MUST be set to at least kGranularity, to avoid the timer expiring
 immediately.
 
-When a PTO timer expires, the sender probes the network as described in the next
-section. The PTO period MUST be set to twice its current value. This exponential
-reduction in the sender's rate is important because the PTOs might be caused by
-loss of packets or acknowledgements due to severe congestion.
+When a PTO timer expires, the PTO period MUST be set to twice its current
+value. This exponential reduction in the sender's rate is important because
+the PTOs might be caused by loss of packets or acknowledgements due to severe
+congestion.

TCP clamps to a value(typically 30 seconds), but I think it's better to recommend a dead path timeout, such as a limit on the number of successive PTOs(I think some TCP impls default to 7?).

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1283,7 +1237,7 @@ OnLossDetectionTimeout():
        SendOneHandshakePacket()
      else:
        SendOnePaddedInitialPacket()
-    crypto_count++
+    pto_count++

You're correct, the else is off.

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(#2823) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d23b19aaac07_770b3f7efa0cd95c218074e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2019 21:11:58 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d23b19aaac07_770b3f7efa0cd95c218074e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is marked as editorial, but 3 seems like the most non-obvious design choice, and it's not clear we intended to make that choice. If extracting the original CID is potentially too difficult for some, why not 2, which only uses local state to process Initial packets? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2823#issuecomment-509393487 ----==_mimepart_5d23b19aaac07_770b3f7efa0cd95c218074e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

This is marked as editorial, but 3 seems like the most non-obvious design choice, and it's not clear we intended to make that choice.

If extracting the original CID is potentially too difficult for some, why not 2, which only uses local state to process Initial packets?

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Would it make sense to solve this by placing restrictions on QUIC configuration at the application protocol level? E.g. forbid HTTP/3 servers from using zero-length CIDs. That avoids forcing increased header size on other application protocols which may have no need for the type of proxy described here.

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Connection IDs are a property of the transport layer, and the proxy use-case described above uses HTTP/3. I don't think we should vary any of this by application.

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----==_mimepart_5d23bbc97b61a_20ee3fec54ecd96819458fe-- From nobody Mon Jul 8 16:19:15 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2720120384 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2019 16:19:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sceTxY_jxT29 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2019 16:18:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7C94612035C for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2019 16:18:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2019 16:18:58 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1562627938; bh=NILHGG7Pb+8Vy/qcuHsQlRBuQ4OZ+FhH48OyhDopL+o=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=A8vNtlkXAlg0kVnRu6/6eTkal3qpFeZtXprbAYziQJu/bn4s34EuzYMkahNJSl3D2 0eiKC8lmHokQLg478PgNmsAP7UZ1YExDWcbFJgmMtT9DzjP9A+yBkZfL/UNxjAWBya NX3TS1sLyi7FJycQSdzy0zMb9orq2KfL86t6MnRI= From: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] d7ed46: Change log for -21 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2019 23:19:14 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: d7ed46a84cd78a601e1fa1581d59b3c21cec3947 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d7ed46a84cd78a601e1fa1581d59b3c21cec3947 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-07-08 (Mon, 08 Jul 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Change log for -21 Commit: 2ffc0b72a3449819b8a28bc0abc3ecc8de65a329 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2ffc0b72a3449819b8a28bc0abc3ecc8de65a329 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-07-08 (Mon, 08 Jul 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Ian's tweaks to text Which will likely fail to build... Co-Authored-By: ianswett Commit: a0e7d777e1a3220cd4a17c5e4ccac506bd4b1a29 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a0e7d777e1a3220cd4a17c5e4ccac506bd4b1a29 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-07-08 (Mon, 08 Jul 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Reflow Commit: abd26dee7c4360e673314fa59465e0191d96c417 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/abd26dee7c4360e673314fa59465e0191d96c417 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-07-09 (Tue, 09 Jul 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #2875 from quicwg/changelog-21 Change log for -21 Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/84eee53493ff...abd26dee7c43 From nobody Mon Jul 8 16:19:25 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6EC6120385 for ; 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67fede17d34ba2fadb124ca6cf19156a2bbc2174 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/67fede17d34ba2fadb124ca6cf19156a2bbc2174 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-07-09 (Tue, 09 Jul 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge branch 'master' into master Commit: b25e6b7b3e5fea9ce21ce9b6bf3f5955e196caab https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b25e6b7b3e5fea9ce21ce9b6bf3f5955e196caab Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-07-09 (Tue, 09 Jul 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #2749 from martinduke/master Allow longer CIDs Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/eba938177100...b25e6b7b3e5f From nobody Mon Jul 8 16:59:21 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from 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(#2823) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d23efd0d6634_2a673fed2aacd968698881"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2019 01:37:24 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d23efd0d6634_2a673fed2aacd968698881 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Of note, in section 2.6 of the new draft from @kazuho and @huitema on protection Initials it says: "The Destination Connection ID of the Initial packet MUST be set to the value specified by the Retry packet, however the keys for encrypting and authenticating the packet MUST continue to be the original ones." This aligns with the first option. It seems like the first option also allows us to remove a transport param, which is a nice property. Given that, is anyone actively opposed to the first option assuming someone else(ie: myself or Nick) writes a PR? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2823#issuecomment-509452429 ----==_mimepart_5d23efd0d6634_2a673fed2aacd968698881 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Of note, in section 2.6 of the new draft from @kazuho and @huitema on protection Initials it says:
"The Destination Connection ID of the Initial packet MUST be set to the value specified by the Retry packet, however the keys for encrypting and authenticating the packet MUST continue to be the original ones."

This aligns with the first option. It seems like the first option also allows us to remove a transport param, which is a nice property.

Given that, is anyone actively opposed to the first option assuming someone else(ie: myself or Nick) writes a PR?

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@ianswett requested changes on this pull request.

This is a good PR in terms of clarifying the current interop/implied behavior, but I'd like to consider making this a non-editorial issue, since I think we could do this more cleanly.

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I noticed this earlier today when trying to resolve conflicts.

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----==_mimepart_5d23f705224fb_5df13ffbdb0cd96c639434-- From nobody Mon Jul 8 19:14:43 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F361912008A for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2019 19:14:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lzuKqi2wqegb for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2019 19:14:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2F960120091 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2019 19:14:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2019 19:14:37 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1562638477; bh=UvIHEANZ4VtAETCQcAMkqn/eY2moT3G4hr3R+yI4qTg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Xj+Xx/SBduacPB46x0JTzwy2UmwQm1VwvGgA/y7NVPwFOQHfRuJSwNHzduozcTFfB I12bfSsOGKW4i6qB9m92JaRmhqcsku4yU//8fZhGnRlpupqQAas3tTPhKENi/ox+f9 oZExa8U5WqMbDxZOyBxETS1jX+nMFbBDm5TdVU+s= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Editorial fix for #2479 (#2877) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d23f88d7667d_192b3fa06e6cd95c868256"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2019 02:14:42 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d23f88d7667d_192b3fa06e6cd95c868256 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson approved this pull request. Suggestions, but this is definitely cleaner. > -integer. The length of the Destination Connection ID (DCIL) occupies the high -bits of the byte and the length of the Source Connection ID (SCIL) occupies the -low bits of the byte. An encoded length of 0 indicates that the connection ID -is also 0 bytes in length. Non-zero encoded lengths are increased by 3 to get -the full length of the connection ID; the final value is therefore either 0 or -between 4 and 18 bytes in length (inclusive). For example, a byte with the -value 0xe0 describes a 17 byte Destination Connection ID and a zero byte Source -Connection ID. - -The connection ID lengths are followed by two connection IDs. The connection -ID associated with the recipient of the packet (the Destination Connection ID) -is followed by the connection ID associated with the sender of the packet (the -Source Connection ID). +The byte contains the length in bytes of the Destination Connection ID (see +{{connection-id}}) field that follows it. This length is encoded as an 8-bit +unsigned integer. The Destination Connection ID field follows the DCI Len ```suggestion unsigned integer. The Destination Connection ID field follows the DCID Len ``` > -bits of the byte and the length of the Source Connection ID (SCIL) occupies the -low bits of the byte. An encoded length of 0 indicates that the connection ID -is also 0 bytes in length. Non-zero encoded lengths are increased by 3 to get -the full length of the connection ID; the final value is therefore either 0 or -between 4 and 18 bytes in length (inclusive). For example, a byte with the -value 0xe0 describes a 17 byte Destination Connection ID and a zero byte Source -Connection ID. - -The connection ID lengths are followed by two connection IDs. The connection -ID associated with the recipient of the packet (the Destination Connection ID) -is followed by the connection ID associated with the sender of the packet (the -Source Connection ID). +The byte contains the length in bytes of the Destination Connection ID (see +{{connection-id}}) field that follows it. This length is encoded as an 8-bit +unsigned integer. The Destination Connection ID field follows the DCI Len +and is between 0 and 255 bytes in length. ```suggestion field and is between 0 and 255 bytes in length. ``` > -value 0xe0 describes a 17 byte Destination Connection ID and a zero byte Source -Connection ID. - -The connection ID lengths are followed by two connection IDs. The connection -ID associated with the recipient of the packet (the Destination Connection ID) -is followed by the connection ID associated with the sender of the packet (the -Source Connection ID). +The byte contains the length in bytes of the Destination Connection ID (see +{{connection-id}}) field that follows it. This length is encoded as an 8-bit +unsigned integer. The Destination Connection ID field follows the DCI Len +and is between 0 and 255 bytes in length. + +The byte following the Source Connection ID contains the length in bytes +of the Source Connection ID field that follows it. This length is encoded as +a 8-bit unsigned integer. The Source Connection ID field follows the SCID Len +and is between 0 and 255 bytes in length. ```suggestion field and is between 0 and 255 bytes in length. ``` > @@ -3503,16 +3503,13 @@ Version: DCID Len: -: The byte following the version contains the lengths of the two connection ID - fields that follow it. These lengths are encoded as two 4-bit unsigned - integers. The Destination Connection ID Length (DCIL) field occupies the 4 - high bits of the byte and the Source Connection ID Length (SCIL) field - occupies the 4 low bits of the byte. An encoded length of 0 indicates that - the connection ID is also 0 bytes in length. Non-zero encoded lengths are - increased by 3 to get the full length of the connection ID, producing a length - between 4 and 18 bytes inclusive. For example, a byte with the value 0x50 - describes an 8-byte Destination Connection ID and a zero-length Source - Connection ID. +: The byte following the version contains the length in bytes of the Destination + Connection ID field that follows it. This length is encoded as an 8-bit + unsigned integer. In QUIC version 1, this value MUST NOT exceed 20 bytes. ```suggestion unsigned integer. 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Suggestions, but this is definitely cleaner.

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In draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md:

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-  unsigned integer.  In QUIC version 1, this =
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In draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md:

> -
-The connection ID lengths are followed by two connection IDs.  The connection
-ID associated with the recipient of the packet (the Destination Connection ID)
-is followed by the connection ID associated with the sender of the packet (the
-Source Connection ID).
+The byte contains the length in bytes of the Destination Connection ID (see
+{{connection-id}}) field that follows it.  This length is encoded as an 8-bit
+unsigned integer.  The Destination Connection ID field follows the DCID Len
+field and is between 0 and 255 bytes in length.
+
+The byte following the Source Connection ID contains the length in bytes
+of the Source Connection ID field that follows it.  This length is encoded as
+a 8-bit unsigned integer.  The Source Connection ID field follows the SCID Len
+field and is between 0 and 255 bytes in length.
+
+{{negotiating-connection-ids}} describes the use of the source and destination

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Alternate PR to #2870

Fixes #2823

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@martinthomson commented on this pull request.

I actually like this, but the intent of #2870 was to document the status quo. If we do this (we should), then it probably also makes sense to describe the consequences for a stateless Retry. That is not 100% obvious and probably needs a little bit of guidance.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -804,6 +803,9 @@ modifying the contents of packets from future versions.
 The HKDF-Expand-Label function defined in TLS 1.3 MUST be used for Initial
 packets even where the TLS versions offered do not include TLS 1.3.
 
+The secrets used for protecting Initial packets do not change during the
+connection, even after receiving a Retry.
+
 {{test-vectors-initial}} contains test vectors for the initial packet
 encryption.

Just down here (vv) there is a note that needs to be removed also.

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This looks good to me, with one omission. (BTW, thanks for fixing the xref, I would not have and even Julian's tools wouldn't have found that.) Can you update the IANA considerations section as well? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2873#pullrequestreview-259260155 ----==_mimepart_5d24131cc67d9_73253f980b4cd9607942ce Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@martinthomson requested changes on this pull request.

This looks good to me, with one omission.

(BTW, thanks for fixing the xref, I would not have and even Julian's tools wouldn't have found that.)

Can you update the IANA considerations section as well?

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Closes #2205. 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Closes #2205.

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  • Add note about stale ACK frames breaking ECN

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I've added #2879, which I believe addresses what's left of this issue.

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----==_mimepart_5d2416981e02b_57733fc428ccd9641284896-- From nobody Mon Jul 8 21:28:17 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FB331200FD for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2019 21:28:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qcGndzUjSXl5 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2019 21:28:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AC00112023F for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2019 21:28:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2019 21:28:12 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1562646492; bh=2HxrNiEpXBPUcXfRWibCiljGKnR5CcgADr9pZ3Z9F1A=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=aoC9oPvGxEJa1RzBMl4tuxkdD/lQ3dmXOfz/AXZffEy2MJDuK3HCZa2ageS4KRchS FTNoczDMQHREFBbXWgOognSAm8/LiFF2IQO7xU1ruKK58JlBgXM7t+Ov7YbFptuCyO M1kX/7YHjkoQcMqg3apTs2QfoSGBwOBr6LyEbBTI= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Add note about stale ACK frames breaking ECN (#2879) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d2417dc58350_32f3fd988acd964107321e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2019 04:28:17 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d2417dc58350_32f3fd988acd964107321e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson commented on this pull request. I don't think that the conditions are quite right here. > @@ -3154,11 +3154,13 @@ to be greater than the number of packets acknowledged in an ACK frame. When this happens, and if verification succeeds, the local reference counts MUST be increased to match the counts in the ACK frame. -Processing counts out of order can result in verification failure. An endpoint -SHOULD NOT perform this verification if the ACK frame is received in a packet -with packet number lower than a previously received ACK frame. Verifying based -on ACK frames that arrive out of order can result in disabling ECN -unnecessarily. +Processing counts out of order can result in verification failure. This can +happen when packets containing ACK frames are reordered in the network, or if a +sender retransmits an ACK frame with stale information. An endpoint SHOULD NOT +perform this verification if the ACK frame is received in a packet with packet +number lower than a previously received ACK frame or if the ACK frame does not +acknowledge any new packets. ACK frames that arrive out of order can result in ```suggestion acknowledge any new packets. Validating ACK frames in those conditions can result in ``` > @@ -3154,11 +3154,13 @@ to be greater than the number of packets acknowledged in an ACK frame. When this happens, and if verification succeeds, the local reference counts MUST be increased to match the counts in the ACK frame. -Processing counts out of order can result in verification failure. An endpoint -SHOULD NOT perform this verification if the ACK frame is received in a packet -with packet number lower than a previously received ACK frame. Verifying based -on ACK frames that arrive out of order can result in disabling ECN -unnecessarily. +Processing counts out of order can result in verification failure. This can +happen when packets containing ACK frames are reordered in the network, or if a +sender retransmits an ACK frame with stale information. An endpoint SHOULD NOT +perform this verification if the ACK frame is received in a packet with packet +number lower than a previously received ACK frame or if the ACK frame does not +acknowledge any new packets. ACK frames that arrive out of order can result in Question: is it possible to skip validation based on just one of these conditions? I think that only the packet number condition is really necessary. Rationale: Say I ACK 1-4 then later drop that range (for any reason) and ACK 5-9 in another packet. If those packets get reordered, then when the first eventually arrives, it will have new acknowledgments, but it will still have bad ECN counts. So you can't say that new acknowledgments is necessary. The packet number is clearly the thing to use - and sufficient on its own - but would it be enough to look for increases in largest acknowledged? ACK processors should not be expected to have access to packet numbers. Allowing implementations to use largest acknowledged would depend on us not allowing that to regress, but that seems like it follows from existing advice. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2879#pullrequestreview-259262482 ----==_mimepart_5d2417dc58350_32f3fd988acd964107321e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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I don't think that the conditions are quite right here.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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Question: is it possible to skip validation based on just one of these= conditions? I think that only the packet number condition is really nec= essary.

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Rationale: Say I ACK 1-4 then later drop that range (for any reason) a= nd ACK 5-9 in another packet. If those packets get reordered, then when = the first eventually arrives, it will have new acknowledgments, but it wi= ll still have bad ECN counts. So you can't say that new acknowledgments = is necessary.

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The packet number is clearly the thing to use - and sufficient on its = own - but would it be enough to look for increases in largest acknowledge= d? ACK processors should not be expected to have access to packet number= s. Allowing implementations to use largest acknowledged would depend on = us not allowing that to regress, but that seems like it follows from exis= ting advice.

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@martinthomson I added IANA considerations, analogous to those in the HTTP doc for the stream type.

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----==_mimepart_5d2421942a930_38a33fec4f4cd96811418b3-- From nobody Mon Jul 8 22:12:03 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CDCC120100 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2019 22:12:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ptbw8Xg3d1mG for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2019 22:11:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-14.smtp.github.com (out-14.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 30B681200EC for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2019 22:11:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2019 22:11:58 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1562649118; bh=+avyR43LBjk5bxqtzV3t1FHq0Q4NyEGhV8POnTqrtGw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=fHA+Am/PUG2iIysrZV84xkPd3N/ESVmpYGqbvLAZ7P40CrlrXa/mYvSGusVgTSYvY 6ba+MOykfzVMkh99RqVTr1UtbAJZBwLm/7cNfYj8iZB0MmRHD210oc90sExmBOEjmj ArkxlH4dTujX52zSyGmkBYQur5ZbzotrMyyZvRdU= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Allow connections to share a port by adding restrictions on zero-length connection IDs (#2851) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d24221e43709_d593ffc89acd968175448b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2019 05:12:01 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d24221e43709_d593ffc89acd968175448b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson approved this pull request. I like this. It makes sense. I've suggested a rewording of the text you proposed, but I think that this the right insight. Namely, you can only use a zero-length connection ID if other information **that is under your control** is sufficient to identify a connection. My only reservation is over the potential for an endpoint to be willing to use trial decryption here. In theory, you could demux using trial decryption. It seems crazy, but we've already got cases for ESNI where that turns out to be a useful concept. > @@ -924,11 +924,14 @@ selected by the client, both to ensure correct routing toward the client and to allow the client to validate that the packet is in response to an Initial packet. -A zero-length connection ID MAY be used when the connection ID is not needed for -routing and the address/port tuple of packets is sufficient to identify a -connection. An endpoint whose peer has selected a zero-length connection ID MUST -continue to use a zero-length connection ID for the lifetime of the connection -and MUST NOT send packets from any other local address. +A zero-length connection ID MAY be used when the connection ID is not needed +for routing and the destination address and port of incoming packets is +sufficient to identify a connection (e.g., when there is a single connection +on a given local port). Note that it is not possible to use the source address +and port of incoming packets to demultiplex them across connections because a +peer might multiplex multiple connections on a single address and port and rely +on its connection IDs for demultiplexing, and the peer's connection IDs are not +transmitted in the short header packets they send. Suggestion: A zero-length connection ID can be used when a connection ID is not needed to correctly route to the correct endpoint. An endpoint MUST NOT use a zero-length connection ID unless it can use only its IP address and port to identify a connection. The IP address and port used by a peer cannot be used for routing as these values can change or be used for additional connections. > -If the Destination Connection ID is zero length and the packet matches the -address/port tuple of a connection where the host did not require connection -IDs, QUIC processes the packet as part of that connection. Endpoints SHOULD -either reject connection attempts that use the same addresses as existing -connections, or use a non-zero-length Destination Connection ID so that packets -can be correctly attributed to connections. +If the Destination Connection ID is zero-length and the packet matches the +local address and port of a connection where the host used zero-length +connection IDs, QUIC processes the packet as part of that connection. +Endpoints that share a local address and port across multiple connections MUST I think that we can drop this final sentence here. The text above (L933-ish) will do. > @@ -1793,9 +1796,7 @@ An endpoint also MUST NOT initiate connection migration if the peer sent the `disable_migration` transport parameter during the handshake. An endpoint which has sent this transport parameter, but detects that a peer has nonetheless migrated to a different network MAY treat this as a connection error of type -INVALID_MIGRATION. Similarly, an endpoint MUST NOT initiate migration if its -peer supplies a zero-length connection ID as packets without a Destination -Connection ID cannot be attributed to a connection based on address tuple. Nice. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2851#pullrequestreview-259270833 ----==_mimepart_5d24221e43709_d593ffc89acd968175448b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@martinthomson approved this pull request.

I like this. It makes sense. I've suggested a rewording of the text you proposed, but I think that this the right insight. Namely, you can only use a zero-length connection ID if other information that is under your control is sufficient to identify a connection.

My only reservation is over the potential for an endpoint to be willing to use trial decryption here. In theory, you could demux using trial decryption. It seems crazy, but we've already got cases for ESNI where that turns out to be a useful concept.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -924,11 +924,14 @@ selected by the client, both to ensure correct routing toward the client and to
 allow the client to validate that the packet is in response to an Initial
 packet.
 
-A zero-length connection ID MAY be used when the connection ID is not needed for
-routing and the address/port tuple of packets is sufficient to identify a
-connection. An endpoint whose peer has selected a zero-length connection ID MUST
-continue to use a zero-length connection ID for the lifetime of the connection
-and MUST NOT send packets from any other local address.
+A zero-length connection ID MAY be used when the connection ID is not needed
+for routing and the destination address and port of incoming packets is
+sufficient to identify a connection (e.g., when there is a single connection
+on a given local port). Note that it is not possible to use the source address
+and port of incoming packets to demultiplex them across connections because a
+peer might multiplex multiple connections on a single address and port and rely
+on its connection IDs for demultiplexing, and the peer's connection IDs are not
+transmitted in the short header packets they send.

Suggestion: A zero-length connection ID can be used when a connection ID is not needed to correctly route to the correct endpoint. An endpoint MUST NOT use a zero-length connection ID unless it can use only its IP address and port to identify a connection. The IP address and port used by a peer cannot be used for routing as these values can change or be used for additional connections.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-If the Destination Connection ID is zero length and the packet matches the
-address/port tuple of a connection where the host did not require connection
-IDs, QUIC processes the packet as part of that connection.  Endpoints SHOULD
-either reject connection attempts that use the same addresses as existing
-connections, or use a non-zero-length Destination Connection ID so that packets
-can be correctly attributed to connections.
+If the Destination Connection ID is zero-length and the packet matches the
+local address and port of a connection where the host used zero-length
+connection IDs, QUIC processes the packet as part of that connection.
+Endpoints that share a local address and port across multiple connections MUST

I think that we can drop this final sentence here. The text above (L933-ish) will do.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1793,9 +1796,7 @@ An endpoint also MUST NOT initiate connection migration if the peer sent the
 `disable_migration` transport parameter during the handshake.  An endpoint which
 has sent this transport parameter, but detects that a peer has nonetheless
 migrated to a different network MAY treat this as a connection error of type
-INVALID_MIGRATION.  Similarly, an endpoint MUST NOT initiate migration if its
-peer supplies a zero-length connection ID as packets without a Destination
-Connection ID cannot be attributed to a connection based on address tuple.

Nice.

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----==_mimepart_5d24229adec42_79543fb5ceecd95c53332e-- From nobody Mon Jul 8 22:30:10 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64092120307 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2019 22:30:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.596 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.596 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iakCpJsGLeS5 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2019 22:30:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B9A32120305 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2019 22:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2019 22:30:01 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1562650201; bh=mFJKhrExaOsKiwUHCc+/Apdw1fSDX1XiPCudpcE9spU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=p4I6Pzi6sfWz1AzeDxqTvD47C3zhD9OqZIlEsseNC2NCZXsyi7l4wNKabSZD1AD7N 66wiDJC3FA8n7yq9AtGEnFh1GN2DqyiWlJTsqxsUpuCzSTH+5ua/iPBbeMEx3u7XWa EURNCsjxpG7UZmNQnd45JAdhorZ6whvT3ZG9W0Vc= From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Initial secrets do not change after Retry (#2878) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d2426598077d_156f3fef4e0cd9601457260"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2019 05:30:08 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d2426598077d_156f3fef4e0cd9601457260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit marten-seemann requested changes on this pull request. At the NY interim, we agreed that a design goal of QUIC's Retry mechanism is that a MITM is not able to perform a Retry. By removing the original_connection_id transport parameter, this PR reintroduces that option. The attack works as follows: 1. The MITM captures the Initial packet, and sends a Retry packet. 2. The client generates a second Initial as a response. This packet will us the DCID provided by the Retry (which is different from the DCID use for the first Initial). 3. The MITM strips out the token, and re-protects the packet with an Initial key derived from the DCID of the packet (it might even choose to change the DCID before forwarding the packet to the server). 4. Because the key used to protect the packet was derived from the DCID, the server is able to unprotect the packet. It replies with an Initial packet. 5. Since Initials are able to change the DCID, the client will accept the Initial packet and change the DCID again (if MITM or server changed the DCID, that is). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2878#pullrequestreview-259275439 ----==_mimepart_5d2426598077d_156f3fef4e0cd9601457260 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@marten-seemann requested changes on this pull request.

At the NY interim, we agreed that a design goal of QUIC's Retry mechanism is that a MITM is not able to perform a Retry.
By removing the original_connection_id transport parameter, this PR reintroduces that option. The attack works as follows:

  1. The MITM captures the Initial packet, and sends a Retry packet.
  2. The client generates a second Initial as a response. This packet will us the DCID provided by the Retry (which is different from the DCID use for the first Initial).
  3. The MITM strips out the token, and re-protects the packet with an Initial key derived from the DCID of the packet (it might even choose to change the DCID before forwarding the packet to the server).
  4. Because the key used to protect the packet was derived from the DCID, the server is able to unprotect the packet. It replies with an Initial packet.
  5. Since Initials are able to change the DCID, the client will accept the Initial packet and change the DCID again (if MITM or server changed the DCID, that is).

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@marten-seemann approved this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -800,8 +799,10 @@ modifying the contents of packets from future versions.
 The HKDF-Expand-Label function defined in TLS 1.3 MUST be used for Initial
 packets even where the TLS versions offered do not include TLS 1.3.
 
-{{test-vectors-initial}} contains test vectors for the initial packet
-encryption.
+The secrets used for protecting Initial packets changes when a server sends a

singular vs plural

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I don't think that's a concern, because the server is still required to echo the ODCID and the client should check it. That change is entered into the handshake transcript, so it can't be spoofed.

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@martinthomson This PR removes the transport parameter. Nothing is entered into the handshake transcript.

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Oops. I completely missed that somehow. I agree with Marten. Keep the transport parameter and I am ok with this, but without, it is badly exposed.

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Oh now I see why. Ian removed the transport parameter after I reviewed it. In an update labelled
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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3154,11 +3154,13 @@ to be greater than the number of packets acknowledged in an ACK frame.  When
 this happens, and if verification succeeds, the local reference counts MUST be
 increased to match the counts in the ACK frame.
 
-Processing counts out of order can result in verification failure.  An endpoint
-SHOULD NOT perform this verification if the ACK frame is received in a packet
-with packet number lower than a previously received ACK frame.  Verifying based
-on ACK frames that arrive out of order can result in disabling ECN
-unnecessarily.
+Processing counts out of order can result in verification failure.  This can
+happen when packets containing ACK frames are reordered in the network, or if a
+sender retransmits an ACK frame with stale information.  An endpoint SHOULD NOT
+perform this verification if the ACK frame is received in a packet with packet
+number lower than a previously received ACK frame or if the ACK frame does not
+acknowledge any new packets. ACK frames that arrive out of order can result in

I'm not sure that we need to collapse this. I think it's reasonable to say that the largest acked should increase, though it's going to be too broad. Any scenario that has reordering of received packets will have ACKs being sent where the largest acked is not increasing.

If the packet number of the received ACK is increasing, it should be adequate, with this one exception (which ought to be rare) where the sender retransmits stale ACKs. I'd rather cover the common case of looking at packet number to determine whether the count is valid, and handling this exceptional case additionally.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3154,11 +3154,13 @@ to be greater than the number of packets acknowledged in an ACK frame.  When
 this happens, and if verification succeeds, the local reference counts MUST be
 increased to match the counts in the ACK frame.
 
-Processing counts out of order can result in verification failure.  An endpoint
-SHOULD NOT perform this verification if the ACK frame is received in a packet
-with packet number lower than a previously received ACK frame.  Verifying based
-on ACK frames that arrive out of order can result in disabling ECN
-unnecessarily.
+Processing counts out of order can result in verification failure.  This can
+happen when packets containing ACK frames are reordered in the network, or if a
+sender retransmits an ACK frame with stale information.  An endpoint SHOULD NOT
+perform this verification if the ACK frame is received in a packet with packet
+number lower than a previously received ACK frame or if the ACK frame does not
+acknowledge any new packets. ACK frames that arrive out of order can result in

I would prefer instead to say that you MUST NOT retransmit stale ACKs AND to require that new ACKs always increase the largest acknowledged (or the ACK range with the largest packet number cannot be discarded). Then we only need to say that endpoints skip ECN validation when the largest acknowledged does not increase.

That's strictly less good than using packet number, because newly acknowledged packets don't always increase the largest acknowledged, so we could mention that checking for an increasing packet number is even better, but that only enables validation more often.

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This just writes down what was proposed in #2388.

Closes #2388.

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I'm very much inclined to propose a vote (i.e., to invoke RFC 3929) on this one in Montreal. I get the strong impression that no one really cares about this that much.

Would anyone object if I put up a slide with the three options up and we could all hum or wave hands at the ones we liked the least?

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As discussed, sending anything that elicits an ACK should fix this. But making a connection where you sit entirely idle leads to a weird corner case. Closes #2863. From nobody Tue Jul 9 00:19:15 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA66F1202F8 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 00:19:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ws93aeZadEqr for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 00:19:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3076D120314 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 00:19:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2019 00:19:09 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1562656749; bh=H7nttJ7ttd27wtSLF62x8pIlfOAlnRQ6DglqJDqyMWY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=meO1z7K21QZs45L6dWdQ4K1lFMU1msLaEPiOugRCDjJS6vBPZF1O9Y8X43qEQf7nE 7N1Eb05AcSH5uQgP0e5GWmWr9IYOJ2oprp5IZuVdQjxudxL8SMMaH9EgyjDEH7/kNU 9fk7PWbCsMkYNOTwCZ8q6q8cjjns/CDBbhXf4hGo= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Explain asymmetric confirmation condition (#2881) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d243fed1e8ff_6adf3fd988acd9641961245"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2019 07:19:14 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d243fed1e8ff_6adf3fd988acd9641961245 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This leads to indefinite Handshake messages from one side, as Handshake packets can never be acknowledged. As discussed, sending anything that elicits an ACK should fix this. But making a connection where you sit entirely idle leads to a weird corner case. Closes #2863. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2881 -- Commit Summary -- * Explain asymmetric confirmation condition -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md (9) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2881.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2881.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2881 ----==_mimepart_5d243fed1e8ff_6adf3fd988acd9641961245 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

This leads to indefinite Handshake messages from one side, as Handshake
packets can never be acknowledged. As discussed, sending anything that
elicits an ACK should fix this. But making a connection where you sit
entirely idle leads to a weird corner case.

Closes #2863.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2881

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Closes #2751. From nobody Tue Jul 9 00:22:20 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60B0412034A for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 00:22:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id j7Ql4wDl3nQI for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 00:22:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6EF69120337 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 00:22:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2019 00:22:11 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1562656931; bh=ZYpbIFa5O86D0vVdNDwy8SAmIaytMNVfBvJqX8i6QsQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=0QY317R/lsOtsWjVYr6s85KB20oUXdnC/xcGj4B94l0jKzfe2b2nsv5sgH81gx8BQ OeiZNi2VFrRz6NuM7bgvt7K2r66kODBnd3rr4pGdqu0MAcTqAcRMHLx1swReVoT89f 25skEvqGBMS4n9Ty8S+EakUtdJbJu5eY7AG/ZbUo= From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Explain asymmetric confirmation condition (#2881) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d2440a371350_69463f980b4cd960290f5"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2019 07:22:20 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d2440a371350_69463f980b4cd960290f5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don=E2=80=99t think this fixes the issue I raised. You don=E2=80=99t on= ly have to send, but also to retransmit the 1-RTT packets. We have a bunc= h of text in the recovery document that tells us to do not do this.=0D =0D -- =0D You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.=0D Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub:=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2881#issuecomment-509522794= ----==_mimepart_5d2440a371350_69463f980b4cd960290f5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I don=E2=80=99t think this fixes the issue I raised. You don=E2=80=99t= only have to send, but also to retransmit the 1-RTT packets. We have a b= unch of text in the recovery document that tells us to do not do this.=0D =0D

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Can someone summarize this discussion for me? We've settled on the spin-off piece (I think), but I lost the thread here.

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----==_mimepart_5d2440b5ab56a_2db53f99574cd96814994e7-- From nobody Tue Jul 9 00:34:23 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53D301201B3 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 00:34:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id F7TCgpX_8F3o for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 00:34:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 61C9812011F for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 00:34:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2019 00:34:17 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1562657657; bh=cMKdBCxQAQYuveiYNu7G1TKQyVOyD/TvHhbewVuk0xQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=wUr89qsWYHiqM+XC7/GJb2RDTOUFSMmaWwtSYzIye5tTADIsfssvXVSClzVTYl0kJ 6p1+qk3DfF49LuOcf9lRzmhJmn6FTQPPu9DVWtSHgpkWJGWsOpsVBj8uezkutAejIA Vj1i7KLO3RDy5MJxTu7GpQVRvp+rNMQB3SkQq5SA= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove spin coordination requirement (#2882) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d244379cab59_3473fb5ceecd95c26940a8"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2019 07:34:21 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d244379cab59_3473fb5ceecd95c26940a8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As discussed, this is a) hard to do in all cases, b) impossible to do in many, and c) not that useful. Closes #2751. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2882 -- Commit Summary -- * Remove spin coordination requirement -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (5) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2882.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2882.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2882 ----==_mimepart_5d244379cab59_3473fb5ceecd95c26940a8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

As discussed, this is a) hard to do in all cases, b) impossible to do in
many, and c) not that useful.

Closes #2751.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2882

Commit Summary

  • Remove spin coordination requirement

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I considered that, and you refer to the fact that the cryptographic handshake packets are the ones that are sent when you have a loss detection timeout. And that these are the only packets that are sent. I worded this carefully to say that you send 1-RTT, ack-eliciting packets. Should I say "In addition to retransmitting crypto packets, ..." or something along those lines?

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=0D = ----==_mimepart_5d24446ec5e05_3b953f8f2c2cd968382372-- From nobody Tue Jul 9 00:42:47 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C0DA120359 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 00:42:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id shEm0qKLHTVY for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 00:42:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D268C1200C1 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 00:42:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2019 00:42:42 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1562658162; bh=MQRLoGp+VlSX3LiE1ggLRLLgiyZ/0hbkDEfL6wNtX/U=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ScEfCF+X8ZUyIhGD+qLWYRpgR2hjdmoid4fX0ooCJx8FbI4DxItod9eQFkgFym65a fesYi50B1rOFF35B28wN+2Rh80IEDRoh87a+BAwR1lnzGgPzBdnmYjGIz2SQCrVJ0f ZkgPMhG8UEPimTkXy8Ds7CowlbzPuH2+iruyDzrQ= From: mirjak Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Long Header Packets and Routing Connection IDs (#2834) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d2445729359b_7ff63fec4f4cd968210073"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mirjak X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2019 07:42:46 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d2445729359b_7ff63fec4f4cd968210073 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We also have a section about CID and load balancing in the manageability draft. However it's pretty short and could definitely need more text. That's what it currently says: "In the case of content distribution networking architectures including load balancers, the connection ID provides a way for the server to signal information about the desired treatment of a flow to the load balancers. Guidance on assigning connection IDs is given in {{?QUIC-APPLICABILITY=I-D.ietf-quic-applicability}}." -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2834#issuecomment-509529283 ----==_mimepart_5d2445729359b_7ff63fec4f4cd968210073 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

We also have a section about CID and load balancing in the manageability draft. However it's pretty short and could definitely need more text. That's what it currently says:

"In the case of content distribution networking architectures including load balancers, the connection ID provides a way for the server to signal information about the desired treatment of a flow to the load balancers. Guidance on assigning connection IDs is given in {{?QUIC-APPLICABILITY=I-D.ietf-quic-applicability}}."

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----==_mimepart_5d2445729359b_7ff63fec4f4cd968210073-- From nobody Tue Jul 9 00:44:11 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEF1D12036A for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 00:44:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A_lFnmXa_0UU for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 00:44:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-22.smtp.github.com (out-22.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.205]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B46C6120364 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 00:44:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2019 00:44:06 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1562658246; bh=cxl/47YB9BIxqbFOoM6vLnkk4vSloqFhQSFynxMci0o=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=NHmNQOPxjfTVBOHxs/Qlg8THDDb6lrhTlA1/swwEgvGN+7Cj/NhF5iis7XiiuJYDK e1I9dxwiA+2X3f1kQ1gaHM39TSvJkA8vFeakU6iuJ2YNvwL5/fTnBTvhm8bja7wwiw kwW3dDvRr1y7UxuqfxrlTogSFjqRD0z1EVcPO4qY= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Explain asymmetric confirmation condition (#2881) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d2445c6a7bc0_75563fe2b5ccd96815675b2"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2019 07:44:10 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d2445c6a7bc0_75563fe2b5ccd96815675b2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, keep in mind that "recovery" for PING, which is the way you would approach this if you never had anything to send, depends on you generating a new PING with every transmission. So it's not that terrible. For our implementation, we would simply crank the lever and spit out another packet when the PTO fires, which would produce a packet that coalesced the missing Handshake with a 1-RTT packet. It only gets hairy when the lost Handshake packet overflows the MTU. Which, sadly, is possible. If we lost more than a PMTU, it gets a little hairy, because we will probably won't send any 1-RTT packets ever. I might be willing to let the connection time out in that case though. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2881#issuecomment-509529782 ----==_mimepart_5d2445c6a7bc0_75563fe2b5ccd96815675b2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Well, keep in mind that "recovery" for PING, which is the way you would approach this if you never had anything to send, depends on you generating a new PING with every transmission. So it's not that terrible.

For our implementation, we would simply crank the lever and spit out another packet when the PTO fires, which would produce a packet that coalesced the missing Handshake with a 1-RTT packet.

It only gets hairy when the lost Handshake packet overflows the MTU. Which, sadly, is possible. If we lost more than a PMTU, it gets a little hairy, because we will probably won't send any 1-RTT packets ever. I might be willing to let the connection time out in that case though.

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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Jul 9 00:57:59 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 066A1120380 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 00:57:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ei59BMExeVpx for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 00:57:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 09AEA12010C for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 00:57:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2019 00:57:54 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1562659074; bh=k3E0WJL9098eWsgC1Hv8F54mrGM0X9M6vOPlOqFh9v4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=KAvZnXsdFTzUzC45UoakN44BpZ8TTl5y+dO2/KniyMxKH1dPFzdxOsYQdHpE9Hzwg 0dBpHn2W13Cjtqnktv6iXzPCPlhVfSUm7BmXrDE6sAoKDxMYLNTuUBIeXhft6jvkLa HDkKaU13fMnXJhnmzKNCqSCVWgoTzcq3DvzcBK5g= From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Explain asymmetric confirmation condition (#2881) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d244902c6f0c_58f93f81918cd96020880ec"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2019 07:57:58 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d244902c6f0c_58f93f81918cd96020880ec Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Well, keep in mind that "recovery" for PING, which is the way you would approach this if you never had anything to send, depends on you generating a new PING with every transmission. If I understand your point correctly, you would either need to change ` RetransmitUnackedCryptoData()` into `RetransmitUnackedCryptoDataAndAtLeastOne1RTTPacket()` or `RetransmitUnackedCryptoDataAndSend1RTTPing()`. That sounds doable, but it gets complicated when you take the congestion controller into account: It could happen that you have enough cwnd to send the retransmissions for the Handshake packets, but not for the 1-RTT packet. What you really want is to send the retransmission for the 1-RTT packet as a probe packet (i.e. never blocked by congestion control). > I might be willing to let the connection time out in that case though. I don't think timing out is acceptable in the case where just 2 packets are lost. In my opinion, the only case where a timeout is justifiable is if the connection is (effectively) blackholed. 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Well, keep in mind that "recovery" for PING, which is the way you would approach this if you never had anything to send, depends on you generating a new PING with every transmission.

If I understand your point correctly, you would either need to change RetransmitUnackedCryptoData() into RetransmitUnackedCryptoDataAndAtLeastOne1RTTPacket() or RetransmitUnackedCryptoDataAndSend1RTTPing(). That sounds doable, but it gets complicated when you take the congestion controller into account: It could happen that you have enough cwnd to send the retransmissions for the Handshake packets, but not for the 1-RTT packet. What you really want is to send the retransmission for the 1-RTT packet as a probe packet (i.e. never blocked by congestion control).

I might be willing to let the connection time out in that case though.

I don't think timing out is acceptable in the case where just 2 packets are lost. In my opinion, the only case where a timeout is justifiable is if the connection is (effectively) blackholed.

You can see the root cause of #2863 as not a problem with loss recovery at all, but with our definition of "handshake confirmed": The server is dropping the keys too early. If the server kept the keys for longer, this loss pattern would harm the connection at all.

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@martinthomson I think that's a good idea, as long as we can summarize the pros and cons of each proposal before the vote.

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Don't the Handshake packets consume cwnd also?

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Don't the Handshake packets consume cwnd also?

@martinthomson That's exactly the problem. They consume cwnd, although they're not even lost (as in "dropped by the network"), just dropped as undecryptable by the peer. In this situation, freeing up this cwnd is only possible after completion of the handshake, when all loss recovery state for non-1-RTT packets is dropped.

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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Jul 9 01:11:30 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE768120116 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 01:11:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Pqdu6W36yCUP for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 01:11:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C3141200FA for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 01:11:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2019 01:11:26 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1562659886; bh=yQMl2FZEIZ/jV6Jo1PQf5vhE2EadH9rPxbUxAkJN0FU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=pr3+DJitcPB+RQ1R+FCf7br85rIqDcGRDmW3opm4JI8s/dKq35otHqXif+IsWqLJT V+E6SORmaerNkfB3GTgIX14c4RwHScrcnj29c3b0Kv6NWg/lSPlbKY+old1C7Jb7RR c7WVEbJosHNDpAZwwuCLtiGEhwn6fdaSi4OrT5zg= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Explain asymmetric confirmation condition (#2881) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d244c2e42001_20613fda450cd96026156e1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2019 08:11:29 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d244c2e42001_20613fda450cd96026156e1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So whatever we do to get to confirmation helps. But until that point, we're headed to a completely unrecoverable state. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2881#issuecomment-509538760 ----==_mimepart_5d244c2e42001_20613fda450cd96026156e1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

So whatever we do to get to confirmation helps. But until that point, we're headed to a completely unrecoverable state.

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We would have to say that the 1-RTT packet has to be treated like a probe packet (i.e. not blocked by the congestion controller).

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As I understand the state of play, the main costs are bytes on the wire (potentially across a wide range of operating points: short RTT, fast processor to long RTT, slow processor), code complexity, and efficiency of calculating the values for encode (e.g., division vs. shift) or decode (e.g., multiply vs. shift).

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----==_mimepart_5d244d301cf4e_389d3fec1eccd9641380816-- From nobody Tue Jul 9 01:18:57 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8966D120326 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 01:18:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HAlf_-lvlNr5 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 01:18:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 994BC1200FA for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 01:18:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2019 01:18:52 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1562660332; bh=yIvilv4+SvVAzqK4rWSbxgseb3/e4t8D1ayn+ZoWd80=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=LKLc9f3pGeUo+9aKk3+DJRBfopLeuFJ8mrn+un6rkM0pMXUvPcO0XPC34hzN3hCoH 7B6NIIdQGh7RecfncXxHiYSwJ7zAeNawJyEqzFOiormV0K9+6Dh3LBVxCpUX3Y/15w zxp6ZuhU1BbjemEcJlOA/yX2GQGCsKV4M3E1lLw0= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Explain asymmetric confirmation condition (#2881) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d244dec822cc_67633fd25f2cd960223961"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2019 08:18:56 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d244dec822cc_67633fd25f2cd960223961 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Why? The retransmitted Handshake packets aren't and in this case these are the ones that will run the CWND down. The 1-RTT PING barely counts. Can't we just let the CWND burn down? Do you really think that by this point you will want to send more than CWND worth of these? I know that it's small at this point (maybe just one packet more than baseline), but if we use INIT_CWND = not_too_small, then we get quite a few goes before this becomes terminal. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2881#issuecomment-509541374 ----==_mimepart_5d244dec822cc_67633fd25f2cd960223961 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Why? The retransmitted Handshake packets aren't and in this case these are the ones that will run the CWND down. The 1-RTT PING barely counts.

Can't we just let the CWND burn down? Do you really think that by this point you will want to send more than CWND worth of these? I know that it's small at this point (maybe just one packet more than baseline), but if we use INIT_CWND = not_too_small, then we get quite a few goes before this becomes terminal.

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Depending on the application this is actually quite likely, or even the common case. Assume that the client has a bit of data to send in the first flight, then this would fill up the cwnd completely. You don't even need must, just 10 packets, minus the Handshake packets in flight (which might contain a certificate chain), and their retransmissions.

Why? The retransmitted Handshake packets aren't and in this case these are the ones that will run the CWND down. The 1-RTT PING barely counts.

The problem is not the size of the 1-RTT PING, but the fact that we might already be congestion limited once we try to send it.

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Looks fine, but what about some guidance on stream vs connection errors? And also the principle of nearly always choosing a hard protocol violation error, or a more granular error with same effect?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3154,11 +3154,13 @@ to be greater than the number of packets acknowledged in an ACK frame.  When
 this happens, and if verification succeeds, the local reference counts MUST be
 increased to match the counts in the ACK frame.
 
-Processing counts out of order can result in verification failure.  An endpoint
-SHOULD NOT perform this verification if the ACK frame is received in a packet
-with packet number lower than a previously received ACK frame.  Verifying based
-on ACK frames that arrive out of order can result in disabling ECN
-unnecessarily.
+Processing counts out of order can result in verification failure.  This can
+happen when packets containing ACK frames are reordered in the network, or if a
+sender retransmits an ACK frame with stale information.  An endpoint SHOULD NOT
+perform this verification if the ACK frame is received in a packet with packet
+number lower than a previously received ACK frame or if the ACK frame does not
+acknowledge any new packets. ACK frames that arrive out of order can result in

Remember that asynchronous senders cannot always coordinate counters exactly. So process A uses some packet numbers, process B user some others, interleaved. you cannot be sure acks are exactly in sync, only approximately so. If the receiver looks at largest acked rather than packet numbers I think it should be ok.

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----==_mimepart_5d2457bc2b1d8_69863f87958cd9603204248-- From nobody Tue Jul 9 02:47:34 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 016A61203A1 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 02:47:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nhvXmEA_k-jm for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 02:47:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D32461200B6 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 02:47:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2019 02:47:29 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1562665649; bh=d1SQusTbUJIo4eaglNs5S83KVlU8PovM54xuI+Abp5k=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=KBS9J3HPe+BmHBRhypHHQjjg63tihZD/YyPw/Lx+78M4Il+MKBlOO5zGQ187ZWNfl /XO17rCEq94vsYwV8UY/Grp4k3xLqYL8SYQ0Dze6UbjeoLCcaN8On95vLZFUsP7kQw COedFOv8DPiApVSrA7QczV7PJAi7LN22cycD/3AY= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Explain asymmetric confirmation condition (#2881) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d2462b13d428_26a63fd988acd96497282f"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2019 09:47:33 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d2462b13d428_26a63fd988acd96497282f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The problem is not the size of the 1-RTT PING, but the fact that we might already be congestion limited once we try to send it. Right, but this is a condition where 1-RTT packets might not be processed by the server. The client can't know if the server really needs the Handshake packets or the 1-RTT packet. If we want to exempt anything from CWND, wouldn't we need to exempt both? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2881#issuecomment-509573810 ----==_mimepart_5d2462b13d428_26a63fd988acd96497282f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The problem is not the size of the 1-RTT PING, but the fact that we might already be congestion limited once we try to send it.

Right, but this is a condition where 1-RTT packets might not be processed by the server. The client can't know if the server really needs the Handshake packets or the 1-RTT packet. If we want to exempt anything from CWND, wouldn't we need to exempt both?

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Stream vs. connection is something that application protocols (like HTTP) need to worry about. The transport only concerns itself with connection errors. The idea that you pick the most helpful error is not something that we need to codify (in my view).

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Stream vs. connection is something that application protocols (like HTTP) need to worry about.

Isn't that worth mentioning? Or do we already have such text?

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Isn't that worth mentioning? Or do we already have such text?

This is already discussed in Section 11, which makes me wonder if it would make more sense for text on this PR to be placed there too.

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The idea that you pick the most helpful error is not something that we need to codify (in my view).

This I do not disagree with. I was merely suggesting that we explain why, as a general rule, a hard error is preferred as a design principle, not the nature of the error message which I do think should have a large degree of freedom.

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----==_mimepart_5d2467a710a28_74e33fe331ecd96c145283-- From nobody Tue Jul 9 03:18:14 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEC44120406 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 03:18:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Njmr0k4yLm0T for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 03:18:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 17E261203FC for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 03:18:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2019 03:18:09 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1562667489; bh=Sk/LGNnwjb1xcYfQ1qYc6d7FwRrsVOnTY74jTydHo3k=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=EqmpkUNpA+F+Hv5eOW3oyYky9rj6I6TZKHaak7kfiDWYmYqZTNyUGvigwPSdYGLMQ RSJ777D5hQL7cuN+iA60x2IbVN2l5JGRwvsMlqiVE/EOJElFOoLWNdBNR0KpLFGsWW NLwI+lNdhgJ1UsNDomlHcUfD9JLOpyaNYngrDqQQ= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Articulate error code principles (#2880) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d2469e1c89cd_6ec3fd25f2cd96079582"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2019 10:18:13 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d2469e1c89cd_6ec3fd25f2cd96079582 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Maybe there is a followup needed for the HTTP draft. If the principles are generally the same, we can copy the text and then add some more to cover the idea that we make most errors fatal to the connection rather than the stream. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2880#issuecomment-509583920 ----==_mimepart_5d2469e1c89cd_6ec3fd25f2cd96079582 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Maybe there is a followup needed for the HTTP draft. If the principles are generally the same, we can copy the text and then add some more to cover the idea that we make most errors fatal to the connection rather than the stream.

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I like Lucas suggestion of adding this text to the existing and already fairly complete text in section 11.

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----==_mimepart_5d24aa5282f90_6bb03f8f2c2cd96826086db-- From nobody Tue Jul 9 08:37:07 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD6B71201F8 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 08:37:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TvSVSxMavgux for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 08:37:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5E5D612017C for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 08:37:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2019 08:37:02 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1562686622; bh=bWMvlJe0VuIxnwTD0JWGHqiaaXfsqfZNshW9ky92q9w=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=dRETwkK0KYEH3CRlrNfE3WMW8QqNT7uNU/Z+agepseFXzKvGmS9OC2jald/Ju88eT 7zW6nI1L+xJFI7k4HAlrs6KHqfwVsPou52Nj3R7MJ9DK2W/hVVfV9XwaU3mNlwiCU/ 5KSdhAvMnL91xiOSpYDehcB7p/3Dk/+Z+dc+EPSk= From: mjoras Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Inconsistency in STOP_SENDING requirements relative to resetting streams in general (#2884) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d24b49e4f591_5c563feaae4cd96017569d4"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mjoras X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2019 15:37:06 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d24b49e4f591_5c563feaae4cd96017569d4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Section 11.2 of the transport draft reads: >RESET_STREAM MUST be instigated by the protocol using QUIC, either directly or through the receipt of a STOP_SENDING frame from a peer. RESET_STREAM carries an application error code. Resetting a stream without knowledge of the application protocol could cause the protocol to enter an unrecoverable state. Application protocols might require certain streams to be reliably delivered in order to guarantee consistent state between endpoints. This would suggest that the transport implementation itself should not be deciding to send RESET_STREAMs on its own, rather it is a matter of the application protocol using QUIC. However, it is somewhat weaselly about STOP_SENDING. My original interpretation of this text was that the implementation should expose the fact that a STOP_SENDING has been received, but it is up to the application protocol to actually reset the stream. This interpretation is not consistent with section 3.5, Solicited State Transitions: > A STOP_SENDING frame requests that the receiving endpoint send a RESET_STREAM frame. An endpoint that receives a STOP_SENDING frame MUST send a RESET_STREAM frame if the stream is in the Ready or Send state. If the stream is in the Data Sent state and any outstanding data is declared lost, an endpoint SHOULD send a RESET_STREAM frame in lieu of a retransmission. I believe the only reasonable way to interpret this is that the transport itself should respond to the STOP_SENDING by issuing a RESET_STREAM. Requiring that the QUIC implementation itself reset the stream seems to go against the philosophy that the protocol should have complete control over resets. It's true that in the case of receiving a STOP_SENDING, the protocol on the other side is asking for a RESET_STREAM, but the entity being solicited should be its peer protocol implementation, not the QUIC implementation. I believe we can fix this by altering the normative text requiring sending a RESET_STREAM, instead prescribing that an application protocol ought to handle STOP_SENDING by eventually fulfilling the solicited reset. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2884 ----==_mimepart_5d24b49e4f591_5c563feaae4cd96017569d4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Section 11.2 of the transport draft reads:

RESET_STREAM MUST be instigated by the protocol using QUIC, either directly or through the receipt of a STOP_SENDING frame from a peer. RESET_STREAM carries an application error code. Resetting a stream without knowledge of the application protocol could cause the protocol to enter an unrecoverable state. Application protocols might require certain streams to be reliably delivered in order to guarantee consistent state between endpoints.

This would suggest that the transport implementation itself should not be deciding to send RESET_STREAMs on its own, rather it is a matter of the application protocol using QUIC. However, it is somewhat weaselly about STOP_SENDING. My original interpretation of this text was that the implementation should expose the fact that a STOP_SENDING has been received, but it is up to the application protocol to actually reset the stream. This interpretation is not consistent with section 3.5, Solicited State Transitions:

A STOP_SENDING frame requests that the receiving endpoint send a RESET_STREAM frame. An endpoint that receives a STOP_SENDING frame MUST send a RESET_STREAM frame if the stream is in the Ready or Send state. If the stream is in the Data Sent state and any outstanding data is declared lost, an endpoint SHOULD send a RESET_STREAM frame in lieu of a retransmission.
I believe the only reasonable way to interpret this is that the transport itself should respond to the STOP_SENDING by issuing a RESET_STREAM.

Requiring that the QUIC implementation itself reset the stream seems to go against the philosophy that the protocol should have complete control over resets. It's true that in the case of receiving a STOP_SENDING, the protocol on the other side is asking for a RESET_STREAM, but the entity being solicited should be its peer protocol implementation, not the QUIC implementation. I believe we can fix this by altering the normative text requiring sending a RESET_STREAM, instead prescribing that an application protocol ought to handle STOP_SENDING by eventually fulfilling the solicited reset.

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The initial salt changed in draft-21, but there is no change to the example initial keys.

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Thanks for walking through that attack Marten, I was under the impression it was no longer necessary, but I'll revert that change and add the TP back.

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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Jul 9 10:13:42 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F1D51202C4 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 10:13:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id t3q7XBhWzUZp for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 10:13:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0078F120276 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 10:13:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2019 10:13:38 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1562692418; bh=VJw6lPM+qjW8mKkgz7DyF+/fW6h3xVRODlYClL35+UY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=UBxK7HkTkT6B9bJRqkrmwPwQvdNgQx+FxSfPFlsnQt/RbOxxb0Hn7gwcyLYHX0vlo RPjVpETDvIYSRsCd/PR3WT7Pxt4kBjnylHEaenIAA414l7IT13SSZc3ZlHktjzgPGB II8uCqZvYo/9FlmVEzUs+/xm6g1PN0yJShEAdb4c= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove ack_delay_exponent TP (#2670) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d24cb42db0ed_1fb33fec1eccd964237844"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2019 17:13:41 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d24cb42db0ed_1fb33fec1eccd964237844 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm fine with a vote in Montreal, though I'd really prefer not to remove this entirely. If there is not a clear favorite, then I'd suggest doing a hum for which option people dislike most and not doing that one? That list covers everything that comes to mind. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2670#issuecomment-509728546 ----==_mimepart_5d24cb42db0ed_1fb33fec1eccd964237844 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I'm fine with a vote in Montreal, though I'd really prefer not to remove this entirely. If there is not a clear favorite, then I'd suggest doing a hum for which option people dislike most and not doing that one?

That list covers everything that comes to mind.

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The crypto retransmission timeout works similar to the PTO timeout. On each timer expiration, you are supposed to send some data, and do an exponential backoff.
However, there's an important difference: PTO packets are not blocked by the congestion controller, whereas crypto retransmissions are.

This can lead to a deadlock: Consider the case where the CFIN is lost, and the client sends all the available window of application data. When the crypto retransmission timer fires, the client would be supposed to retransmit the CFIN, but the congestion controller will not allow that. Furthermore, since the CFIN was lost, the server won't be able to read any of the 1-RTT packets, so cwnd will never be cleared.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -924,11 +924,14 @@ selected by the client, both to ensure correct routing toward the client and to
 allow the client to validate that the packet is in response to an Initial
 packet.
 
-A zero-length connection ID MAY be used when the connection ID is not needed for
-routing and the address/port tuple of packets is sufficient to identify a
-connection. An endpoint whose peer has selected a zero-length connection ID MUST
-continue to use a zero-length connection ID for the lifetime of the connection
-and MUST NOT send packets from any other local address.
+A zero-length connection ID MAY be used when the connection ID is not needed
+for routing and the destination address and port of incoming packets is
+sufficient to identify a connection (e.g., when there is a single connection
+on a given local port). Note that it is not possible to use the source address
+and port of incoming packets to demultiplex them across connections because a
+peer might multiplex multiple connections on a single address and port and rely
+on its connection IDs for demultiplexing, and the peer's connection IDs are not
+transmitted in the short header packets they send.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -924,11 +924,14 @@ selected by the client, both to ensure correct routing toward the client and to
 allow the client to validate that the packet is in response to an Initial
 packet.
 
-A zero-length connection ID MAY be used when the connection ID is not needed for
-routing and the address/port tuple of packets is sufficient to identify a
-connection. An endpoint whose peer has selected a zero-length connection ID MUST
-continue to use a zero-length connection ID for the lifetime of the connection
-and MUST NOT send packets from any other local address.
+A zero-length connection ID MAY be used when the connection ID is not needed
+for routing and the destination address and port of incoming packets is
+sufficient to identify a connection (e.g., when there is a single connection
+on a given local port). Note that it is not possible to use the source address
+and port of incoming packets to demultiplex them across connections because a
+peer might multiplex multiple connections on a single address and port and rely
+on its connection IDs for demultiplexing, and the peer's connection IDs are not
+transmitted in the short header packets they send.

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----==_mimepart_5d24fc3eca6de_2e053feca66cd96460031d-- From nobody Tue Jul 9 13:42:58 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E695D120024 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 13:42:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.596 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.596 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id b5CgPupZzoCl for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 13:42:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E8CE112000E for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 13:42:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2019 13:42:53 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1562704973; bh=bFkPen1cI3vRSBP/y7lEw0vDOm+8cb8WpjDZm+DXNUo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ElDsX1Iyg/F+PzSlJ8vkmOom46vKluVsBDwYLCO8ghZ04MpBUM5JbmdzYR8SFUJzo AveQVyAEcI89xtGLqOyk1RseiNTU8EdKW1gHY/3XWsNPv+ZwFuMzFHPMwhOSNXXw3b dpLyWNhGWdemhu2GYHANDsgZF9kgX8UsIYGJ0RYA= From: David Schinazi Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Allow connections to share a port by adding restrictions on zero-length connection IDs (#2851) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d24fc4da13ff_12953fd296ccd96055094b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: DavidSchinazi X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2019 20:42:57 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d24fc4da13ff_12953fd296ccd96055094b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DavidSchinazi commented on this pull request. > -If the Destination Connection ID is zero length and the packet matches the -address/port tuple of a connection where the host did not require connection -IDs, QUIC processes the packet as part of that connection. Endpoints SHOULD -either reject connection attempts that use the same addresses as existing -connections, or use a non-zero-length Destination Connection ID so that packets -can be correctly attributed to connections. +If the Destination Connection ID is zero-length and the packet matches the +local address and port of a connection where the host used zero-length +connection IDs, QUIC processes the packet as part of that connection. +Endpoints that share a local address and port across multiple connections MUST Agreed, done. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2851#discussion_r301784837 ----==_mimepart_5d24fc4da13ff_12953fd296ccd96055094b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@DavidSchinazi commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-If the Destination Connection ID is zero length and the packet matches the
-address/port tuple of a connection where the host did not require connection
-IDs, QUIC processes the packet as part of that connection.  Endpoints SHOULD
-either reject connection attempts that use the same addresses as existing
-connections, or use a non-zero-length Destination Connection ID so that packets
-can be correctly attributed to connections.
+If the Destination Connection ID is zero-length and the packet matches the
+local address and port of a connection where the host used zero-length
+connection IDs, QUIC processes the packet as part of that connection.
+Endpoints that share a local address and port across multiple connections MUST

Agreed, done.

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It was not intended for crypto timeout retransmissions to be blocked by the congestion controller.

Does PR# 2806 fix this by merging them?

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Thanks @martinthomson . I think the current text doesn't explicitly ban trial decryption: technically that endpoint is able to identify the connection using only its IP and port so it's good to go. The important bit is that it doesn't require the peer to alter its behavior.

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I've updated the associated PR #2851 in case anyone following here would like to go check it.

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After the most recent editorial revision, I've done my best to address this.

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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Jul 9 15:44:14 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEADA120075 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 15:44:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0rOe5LMgXvbq for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 15:44:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 87D0312006D for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 15:44:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2019 15:44:09 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1562712249; bh=fJ5gs8h3gdWVJo1elh1VKf9zhvPlTS+mDl2cSUh2IMY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=xGf9TwJEjFDs5s1n0dsxci3UgSP8y/v5OYUjvXa90f2AXc8NkEZ2Tvki8+tdatVjk 7GI0w86UPZyXkIUlIySTH6WctOQKP48u7qnn97JHhZT+ST7RYb+kfuURbzmW4MaZ+c IC5FH7MbxoPWHnkJaHhKRBPkdKEIlHi4APB0KzHU= From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Editorial fix for #2479 (#2877) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d2518b97e8e7_2f713f83db6cd95c87340"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2019 22:44:13 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d2518b97e8e7_2f713f83db6cd95c87340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit janaiyengar commented on this pull request. A couple of changes > -The next byte contains the length in bytes of the two Connection IDs (see -{{connection-id}}) that follow. Each length is encoded as a 4-bit unsigned -integer. The length of the Destination Connection ID (DCIL) occupies the high -bits of the byte and the length of the Source Connection ID (SCIL) occupies the -low bits of the byte. An encoded length of 0 indicates that the connection ID -is also 0 bytes in length. Non-zero encoded lengths are increased by 3 to get -the full length of the connection ID; the final value is therefore either 0 or -between 4 and 18 bytes in length (inclusive). For example, a byte with the -value 0xe0 describes a 17 byte Destination Connection ID and a zero byte Source -Connection ID. - -The connection ID lengths are followed by two connection IDs. The connection -ID associated with the recipient of the packet (the Destination Connection ID) -is followed by the connection ID associated with the sender of the packet (the -Source Connection ID). +The byte contains the length in bytes of the Destination Connection ID (see ```suggestion The next byte contains the length in bytes of the Destination Connection ID (see ``` > -is also 0 bytes in length. Non-zero encoded lengths are increased by 3 to get -the full length of the connection ID; the final value is therefore either 0 or -between 4 and 18 bytes in length (inclusive). For example, a byte with the -value 0xe0 describes a 17 byte Destination Connection ID and a zero byte Source -Connection ID. - -The connection ID lengths are followed by two connection IDs. The connection -ID associated with the recipient of the packet (the Destination Connection ID) -is followed by the connection ID associated with the sender of the packet (the -Source Connection ID). +The byte contains the length in bytes of the Destination Connection ID (see +{{connection-id}}) field that follows it. This length is encoded as an 8-bit +unsigned integer. The Destination Connection ID field follows the DCID Len +field and is between 0 and 255 bytes in length. + +The byte following the Source Connection ID contains the length in bytes ```suggestion The next byte contains the length in bytes ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2877#pullrequestreview-259795077 ----==_mimepart_5d2518b97e8e7_2f713f83db6cd95c87340 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Resumed connections over the same network= =0D +SHOULD use the previous connection's final smoothed RTT value as the res= umed=0D +connection's initial RTT. If no previous RTT is available, the initial = RTT=0D +SHOULD be set to 500ms, resulting in a 1 second initial timeout as recom= mended=0D +in {{?RFC6298}}.=0D +=0D +A connection MAY use the delay between sending a PATH_CHALLENGE and rece= iving=0D +a PATH_RESPONSE to seed initial_rtt for a new path, but the delay SHOULD= NOT=0D +be considered an RTT sample.=0D +=0D +Until the server has validated the client's address on the path, the amo= unt of=0D +data it can send is limited, as specified in Section 8.1 of {{QUIC-TRANS= PORT}}.=0D +If not all data can be retransmitted, then data at Initial and Handshake= =0D +encryption should be retransmitted before any ApplicationData data. If n= o data=0D +can be sent, then the PTO alarm should not be armed until data has been=0D= =0D ```suggestion=0D can be sent, then the PTO alarm MUST=C2=A0NOT be armed until data has bee= n=0D ```=0D =0D -- =0D You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.=0D Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub:=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2806#pullrequestreview-2597921= 35= ----==_mimepart_5d251c7e98031_290c3fd3eb2cd96410168e1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

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+set to twice the initial RTT.  Resumed connections over the same network=
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+SHOULD use the previous connection's final smoothed RTT value as the=
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+connection's initial RTT.  If no previous RTT is available, the init=
ial RTT=0D
+SHOULD be set to 500ms, resulting in a 1 second initial timeout as recom=
mended=0D
+in {{?RFC6298}}.=0D
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+A connection MAY use the delay between sending a PATH_CHALLENGE and rece=
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+a PATH_RESPONSE to seed initial_rtt for a new path, but the delay SHOULD=
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+be considered an RTT sample.=0D
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+Until the server has validated the client's address on the path, the=
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+data it can send is limited, as specified in Section 8.1 of {{QUIC-TRANS=
PORT}}.=0D
+If not all data can be retransmitted, then data at Initial and Handshake=
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+encryption should be retransmitted before any ApplicationData data. If n=
o data=0D
+can be sent, then the PTO alarm should not be armed until data has been=0D=
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+can be sent, then the PTO alarm MUST=C2=A0NOT be armed until data has be=
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The PTO value MUST be set to at least kGranularity, to avoid the timer expiring immediately. -When a PTO timer expires, the sender probes the network as described in the next -section. The PTO period MUST be set to twice its current value. This exponential -reduction in the sender's rate is important because the PTOs might be caused by -loss of packets or acknowledgements due to severe congestion. +When a PTO timer expires, the PTO period MUST be set to twice its current +value. This exponential reduction in the sender's rate is important because +the PTOs might be caused by loss of packets or acknowledgements due to severe +congestion. Maybe it's worth adding a sentence here to say that "The life of a connection that is experiencing consecutive PTOs is limited by the endpoint's idle timeout." -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -543,49 +544,46 @@ delay sending an acknowledgement.
 The PTO value MUST be set to at least kGranularity, to avoid the timer expiring
 immediately.
 
-When a PTO timer expires, the sender probes the network as described in the next
-section. The PTO period MUST be set to twice its current value. This exponential
-reduction in the sender's rate is important because the PTOs might be caused by
-loss of packets or acknowledgements due to severe congestion.
+When a PTO timer expires, the PTO period MUST be set to twice its current
+value. This exponential reduction in the sender's rate is important because
+the PTOs might be caused by loss of packets or acknowledgements due to severe
+congestion.

Maybe it's worth adding a sentence here to say that "The life of a connection that is experiencing consecutive PTOs is limited by the endpoint's idle timeout."

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New salt, updated for invariants change.

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@kazuho approved this pull request.

The text looks fine, and I think that the design change is also fine.

IIRC, current design allows a server to process a Initial packet with a token that it does not understand. I am not sure if that is good or bad, but at least it's slippery.

The proposed change enforces the use of a retry token for handling the payload, addressing this slipperiness (note: unverifiable new_token tokens can be ignored regardless of this PR).

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@janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3154,11 +3154,13 @@ to be greater than the number of packets acknowledged in an ACK frame.  When
 this happens, and if verification succeeds, the local reference counts MUST be
 increased to match the counts in the ACK frame.
 
-Processing counts out of order can result in verification failure.  An endpoint
-SHOULD NOT perform this verification if the ACK frame is received in a packet
-with packet number lower than a previously received ACK frame.  Verifying based
-on ACK frames that arrive out of order can result in disabling ECN
-unnecessarily.
+Processing counts out of order can result in verification failure.  This can
+happen when packets containing ACK frames are reordered in the network, or if a
+sender retransmits an ACK frame with stale information.  An endpoint SHOULD NOT
+perform this verification if the ACK frame is received in a packet with packet
+number lower than a previously received ACK frame or if the ACK frame does not
+acknowledge any new packets. ACK frames that arrive out of order can result in

Summarizing where I think @martinthomson and I are currently. An endpoint only validates ECN counts for ACK frames received where the largest acknowledged increases. This guarantees that the ACK is newer, meaning that ECN counts should be higher... This is only true if we require that the peer SHOULD increase ECN counts only in ACK frames where largest acknowledged is not decreasing. If the peer doesn't, then it risks ECN validation failing.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3154,11 +3154,13 @@ to be greater than the number of packets acknowledged in an ACK frame.  When
 this happens, and if verification succeeds, the local reference counts MUST be
 increased to match the counts in the ACK frame.
 
-Processing counts out of order can result in verification failure.  An endpoint
-SHOULD NOT perform this verification if the ACK frame is received in a packet
-with packet number lower than a previously received ACK frame.  Verifying based
-on ACK frames that arrive out of order can result in disabling ECN
-unnecessarily.
+Processing counts out of order can result in verification failure.  This can
+happen when packets containing ACK frames are reordered in the network, or if a
+sender retransmits an ACK frame with stale information.  An endpoint SHOULD NOT
+perform this verification if the ACK frame is received in a packet with packet
+number lower than a previously received ACK frame or if the ACK frame does not
+acknowledge any new packets. ACK frames that arrive out of order can result in

That SG. We should also strongly recommend NOT retransmitting old ACKs if we don't already.

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Doing a hum sounds good to me. Mp prefeence goes to arguing for dislikes as @ianswett says.

@martinthomson

As I understand the state of play, the main costs are bytes on the wire (potentially across a wide range of operating points: short RTT, fast processor to long RTT, slow processor), code complexity, and efficiency of calculating the values for encode (e.g., division vs. shift) or decode (e.g., multiply vs. shift).

FWIW, this is the table I have illustrating the differences of the encoder side. I do not think division is necessary even when adopt the multiplier proposal, because the encoder has the freedom to choose the multiplier. By choosing a multiplier that is 2-power of the timer granularity, a encoder can use a bit shift operation.

design \ granularity 1us 2n us 10n us
no scaling noop bit-shift multiply
bit-shift bit-shift bit-shift becomes inaccurate
multiplier bit-shift bit-shift bit-shift

For the decoder side, it's noop vs. shift vs. multiply.

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----==_mimepart_5d2589fa9219_45fe3fd2198cd9642732991-- From nobody Tue Jul 9 23:47:45 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E540120103 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 23:47:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8YbzSFR-JKfO for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 23:47:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 06507120100 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 23:47:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2019 23:47:39 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1562741259; bh=7O9uj8Fbe3s4GTuClEpKUAKAG69Xc+LnlCB5ONuguCc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=V/fiLj1dt80zq85LF+g1p6JgNHUzP2LnpkY49xk45h1QxFmG62+9mm4P2j8TAL5/c m8YlFAYWK9LiXM2lzat4kdbLB11qJsmbvDrsy+n13LtbwUySUMSDGgEdE473191Fbb lyTjxrFkLsU0mKbCOsmBkEabOdynvnVDHIEh1wVE= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Articulate error code principles (#2880) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d258a0b623fc_25103f8032ecd960317456b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2019 06:47:43 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d258a0b623fc_25103f8032ecd960317456b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I moved the second paragraph up to the error handling section, but the text about how codes are selected really belongs with the codes themselves. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2880#issuecomment-509932374 ----==_mimepart_5d258a0b623fc_25103f8032ecd960317456b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I moved the second paragraph up to the error handling section, but the text about how codes are selected really belongs with the codes themselves.

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@LPardue approved this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -5374,6 +5379,14 @@ CRYPTO_ERROR (0x1XX):
 
 See {{iana-error-codes}} for details of registering new error codes.
 
+In defining these error codes, several principles are applied.  Error conditions
+that might require specific action on the part of a recipient are giving unique

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I don't see any inconsistency here. This is the relevant text:

RESET_STREAM MUST be instigated by the protocol using QUIC, either directly or through the receipt of a STOP_SENDING frame from a peer.

This says that RESET_STREAM is only sent if the application protocol asks for it. That means either the local stack or the remote stack.

As you say, the transport is required to send RESET_STREAM in response to STOP_SENDING. I can firm that up.

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Hopefully this is crisper. Basically, the application protocol is what asks for stream reset, either directly, or by sending STOP_SENDING. I added a recommendation for application protocols to define handling for prematurely cancelled streams. That is, I believe, just editorial, even though it uses 2119 language, because we already do that. Closes #2884. 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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -5374,6 +5379,14 @@ CRYPTO_ERROR (0x1XX):
 
 See {{iana-error-codes}} for details of registering new error codes.
 
+In defining these error codes, several principles are applied.  Error conditions
+that might require specific action on the part of a recipient are giving unique

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Oh well. There's updated test vectors in #2887, but those are for -23. If you want test vectors for -22, you can tweak the version and salt in the .js file in the repo and run that. If that doesn't work, let me know and we can work out what is wrong. For now, I just have to humbly apologize again for the mess that I made of all these drafts this time around. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2885#issuecomment-509938177 ----==_mimepart_5d258ee1b43ee_78923f906aacd96c2196884 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Yes, we also didn't update the examples to include the new invariants. Oh well. There's updated test vectors in #2887, but those are for -23. If you want test vectors for -22, you can tweak the version and salt in the .js file in the repo and run that. If that doesn't work, let me know and we can work out what is wrong.

For now, I just have to humbly apologize again for the mess that I made of all these drafts this time around.

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This should close #2887 as well..

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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----==_mimepart_5d259044bf177_63073fd397ecd95c3120899-- From nobody Wed Jul 10 00:14:47 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3E8D120105 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2019 00:14:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DeuxspjSYz9K for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2019 00:14:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0D7CF120100 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2019 00:14:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2019 00:14:41 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1562742881; bh=K/bP+yrXRG7zZjTsP1vvh3K4POHXHJx+eCVf0OPRGQI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=riwZnTe8uF1n+vCk61cAAddAQQSDmY8ikHydUE2wNOdpYICzVXb4WhLCLXyyiPelg czwmV0e2b+c1sF5JBWhqCZIxGzAdNky4rGXw2Ctlf6bkHK+cU09VafmEeRTPlanpSQ 5bie0hsvhV6539fBrYFLCZPYZ71eMs5hXDRzzQYE= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Add note about stale ACK frames breaking ECN (#2879) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d2590616112d_57633fdb854cd95c152899"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2019 07:14:45 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d2590616112d_57633fdb854cd95c152899 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson commented on this pull request. > @@ -3154,11 +3154,13 @@ to be greater than the number of packets acknowledged in an ACK frame. When this happens, and if verification succeeds, the local reference counts MUST be increased to match the counts in the ACK frame. -Processing counts out of order can result in verification failure. An endpoint -SHOULD NOT perform this verification if the ACK frame is received in a packet -with packet number lower than a previously received ACK frame. Verifying based -on ACK frames that arrive out of order can result in disabling ECN -unnecessarily. +Processing counts out of order can result in verification failure. This can +happen when packets containing ACK frames are reordered in the network, or if a +sender retransmits an ACK frame with stale information. An endpoint SHOULD NOT +perform this verification if the ACK frame is received in a packet with packet +number lower than a previously received ACK frame or if the ACK frame does not +acknowledge any new packets. ACK frames that arrive out of order can result in Note that we're not strictly requiring that endpoints never regress largest acknowledged, but any implementation that does that probably won't benefit from ECN for very long. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2879#discussion_r301915509 ----==_mimepart_5d2590616112d_57633fdb854cd95c152899 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3154,11 +3154,13 @@ to be greater than the number of packets acknowledged in an ACK frame.  When
 this happens, and if verification succeeds, the local reference counts MUST be
 increased to match the counts in the ACK frame.
 
-Processing counts out of order can result in verification failure.  An endpoint
-SHOULD NOT perform this verification if the ACK frame is received in a packet
-with packet number lower than a previously received ACK frame.  Verifying based
-on ACK frames that arrive out of order can result in disabling ECN
-unnecessarily.
+Processing counts out of order can result in verification failure.  This can
+happen when packets containing ACK frames are reordered in the network, or if a
+sender retransmits an ACK frame with stale information.  An endpoint SHOULD NOT
+perform this verification if the ACK frame is received in a packet with packet
+number lower than a previously received ACK frame or if the ACK frame does not
+acknowledge any new packets. ACK frames that arrive out of order can result in

Note that we're not strictly requiring that endpoints never regress largest acknowledged, but any implementation that does that probably won't benefit from ECN for very long.

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This was a little woolly. Hopefully this is crisper. Basically, the
application protocol is what asks for stream reset, either directly, or
by sending STOP_SENDING.

I added a recommendation for application protocols to define handling
for prematurely cancelled streams. That is, I believe, just editorial,
even though it uses 2119 language, because we already do that.

Closes #2884.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2888

Commit Summary

  • Firm up language around stream termination

File Changes

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Yeah, we have times expressed in nanoseconds, so we have to divide always.

I heard the "dislike most" suggestion; I was planning on that anyway. I've heard a lot stronger negative sentiment related to the "remove the TP" option.

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For those following along, here is a draft of some slides for this process. Comments are open if you want to improve them in any way.

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Commit: 838360c9571795b7e6af26388c5be26e9e9980df https://github.com/quicwg/wg-materials/commit/838360c9571795b7e6af26388c5be26e9e9980df Author: Lars Eggert <200328+larseggert@users.noreply.github.com> Date: 2019-07-10 (Wed, 10 Jul 2019) Changed paths: A ietf105/issue2670.pdf Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #115 from martinthomson/105-ack-delay Add slides for ACK delay scaling Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/wg-materials/compare/aef7ba550272...838360c95717 From nobody Wed Jul 10 02:34:34 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61F821200FA for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2019 02:34:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.596 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.596 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id suTEzWhElnIz for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2019 02:34:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-22.smtp.github.com (out-22.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.205]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 04A12120099 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2019 02:34:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2019 02:34:28 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1562751268; bh=Hi57iufC1vLIuCXmcBmrQVp3TAQ8FKd7sGtwnESYHeY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=VXnL9ErjKKjrHwzGNWtWkrWdQgsnL0F3Rb/+UHVdb/Z5yQlJ8n/OTmKD0XzlNPOVk QzoM3pvsgEeuQLYW0j3/80/XZFzz+Q69ILFu8I0E1qU/JxSpO5n4xZsJjcbfP7ykOW R2H66Cw9ldFSvILi3RWilX5o8dUH6Ya+UYsiemi8= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove ack_delay_exponent TP (#2670) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d25b124424d7_b9b3fdb854cd95c7686ce"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2019 09:34:32 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d25b124424d7_b9b3fdb854cd95c7686ce Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So I'm am one the few holding out for shift. I disagree with many of the arguments made on shift being imprecise, but I come to some of the same conclusion @kazuho has recently posted: The encoded can choose its multiplier. It can choose one that it is a power of 2. The native representation of time my require scaling anyway, so you might end up with a non-power of two. However, this is typically a constant, and division by a constant is multiplication if you do it compile time. It is a long multiplication which is slower, but not that much. Therefore I am reverting on my stance and think that a multiplier is acceptable, as long as it can be chosen statically for the application, or it can choose a power of 2 dynamically. More generally I still think it is a problem to guess the time scale and would like to have an adaptive scale without transport parameters, using 16 bit unsigned floats, but there is zero traction on that here. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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So I'm am one the few holding out for shift. I disagree with many of the arguments made on shift being imprecise, but I come to some of the same conclusion @kazuho has recently posted:

The encoded can choose its multiplier. It can choose one that it is a power of 2.

The native representation of time my require scaling anyway, so you might end up with a non-power of two. However, this is typically a constant, and division by a constant is multiplication if you do it compile time. It is a long multiplication which is slower, but not that much.

Therefore I am reverting on my stance and think that a multiplier is acceptable, as long as it can be chosen statically for the application, or it can choose a power of 2 dynamically.

More generally I still think it is a problem to guess the time scale and would like to have an adaptive scale without transport parameters, using 16 bit unsigned floats, but there is zero traction on that here.

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It should be noted though, that 64-bit multiplication on a 32-bit, or smaller MCU, is comparatively slow. These will also suffer from GCM, but there is other crypto.

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I'm fairly confident that these operations will be done on relatively small values, and so optimization to that degree will be possible. I plan to use Rust u128 values and to ignore the cost, but I realize that not every implementation can afford to spend upwards of 4 CPU cycles on an operation that you perform once every other packet.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2601,12 +2601,17 @@ connection in a recoverable state, the endpoint can send a RESET_STREAM frame
 ({{frame-reset-stream}}) with an appropriate error code to terminate just the
 affected stream.
 
-RESET_STREAM MUST be instigated by the protocol using QUIC, either directly or
-through the receipt of a STOP_SENDING frame from a peer.  RESET_STREAM carries
-an application error code.  Resetting a stream without knowledge of the
-application protocol could cause the protocol to enter an unrecoverable state.
-Application protocols might require certain streams to be reliably delivered in
-order to guarantee consistent state between endpoints.
+RESET_STREAM MUST be instigated by the protocol using QUIC.  RESET_STREAM
+carries an application error code.  Only the application protocol is able to
+cause a stream to be terminated.  A local instance of the application protocol
+uses a direct API call and a remote instance uses the STOP_SENDING frame, which
+triggers an automatic RESET_STREAM.

Hm. The second sentence suggests that the determination of the application error code in the RESET_STREAM is the responsibility of the application. Fair enough. But in this last sentence, it sounds like the RESET_STREAM is generated by the transport (or some such) in response to STOP_SENDING. Also fair enough. But how does the transport determine the application error code.

I think the behavior here is fine, but the text feels... wooly, as you said. I wonder if it might be easier to read if we treated the STOP_SENDING case as more of an exception, than trying to make it part of the general "only the app resets streams" behavior. shrug

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I am suggesting more than an editorial change, actually. I'm disputing that it makes sense for the transport to be the one initiating the RESET_STREAM as opposed to the STOP_SENDING merely being informative to the application protocol, i.e. it should be the application protocol's responsibility to respond to the STOP_SENDING by resetting the stream.

From an implementation standpoint, one would obviously want feedback on receiving a STOP_SENDING frame. This makes it so the implementation has to make a choice when receiving the STOP_SENDING. Is it supposed to reset the stream before or after delivering this information to the application protocol? This has consequences as resetting the stream before informing the application obviously effects the stream state.

Is there any disadvantage to instead only requiring that the transport inform the application protocol of the receipt of the STOP_SENDING, and then the application protocol is left to decide when to actually reset the relevant stream?

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There are two concerns that come to mind.

  1. The application can implement this incorrectly.
  2. The application may be slow to process the STOP_SENDING, and in the meantime a lot of unnecessary data may be sent. Doing this at the transport layer allows immediate processing.

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The application can implement this incorrectly.

The application can also incorrectly implement having its stream reset without notification, as is currently allowed by the spec. The spec as written IMO encourages confusing semantics with respect to STOP_SENDING, as it forces the transport to send the reset and leaves it up to the implementation to decide how and when it notifies the application.

The application may be slow to process the STOP_SENDING, and in the meantime a lot of unnecessary data may be sent. Doing this at the transport layer allows immediate processing.

We don't need to be prescriptive in saying the application MUST handle it, i.e. we don't need to disallow transport implementations from responding to the STOP_SENDING without application input. I am suggesting that we not require that the transport be the one to do it. I don't see an advantage to allowing the application to take control of sending the reset if it wants to.

The application may also have delivered everything including FIN.

I don't see how this is a concern. For such cases either the application can still issue a reset for the stream, or the transport implementation can optionally take control of it and issue the reset itself.

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----==_mimepart_5d261cad20274_43dc3feb8aacd964179959-- From nobody Wed Jul 10 10:29:02 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA4D71203D7 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2019 10:29:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GQkQc2vxWlZN for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2019 10:28:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47C9D1202EE for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2019 10:28:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2019 10:28:31 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1562779711; bh=FsGpY64ZjFlNtL3LOUEb7lNjH/+Szg756Uoq61fmHHc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=lrL21aUKyKX5XUReZyn/kc7YwqnifuYr2r5lAMH0KA2kZ8wKNa6KGcp56YTPF5/4d NuOKR4CXFujWqJHg1NKWqmFiVTT0LT4MX8HVRYI+IigSE+w4INA1zDXuQm+ZI+GVHY Z/A9lra9uOtrqdGyDwga+wuCqtMKz9wjqUDX+PBA= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Inconsistency in STOP_SENDING requirements relative to resetting streams in general (#2884) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d26203f387cb_36743f9143ccd96839329e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2019 17:29:01 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d26203f387cb_36743f9143ccd96839329e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I don't see how this is a concern. For such cases either the application can still issue a reset for the stream, or the transport implementation can optionally take control of it and issue the reset itself. It may not be in the application protocols best interest to have a forced reset in this case. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2884#issuecomment-510154903 ----==_mimepart_5d26203f387cb_36743f9143ccd96839329e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I don't see how this is a concern. For such cases either the application can still issue a reset for the stream, or the transport implementation can optionally take control of it and issue the reset itself.

It may not be in the application protocols best interest to have a forced reset in this case.

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HTTP/3 makes no explicit comment about this. HTTP/2 prohibits it. So I think that we might want to add equivalent text. https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7540#section-8.1.1

HTTP/2 removes support for the 101 (Switching Protocols)
informational status code ([RFC7231], Section 6.2.2).

The semantics of 101 (Switching Protocols) aren't applicable to a
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This is going to conflict with #2806 so I'll try to merge that soon.

@ianswett I don't think this is an editorial change. Furthermore, I don't believe that a change to the loss recovery algorithm is necessarily the best fix for #2863.
Can we not merge this until Montreal?

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This PR and that issue are labeled transport+design, so presumably it'd need a consensus call?

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Wow, this looks so much cleaner. > +data it can send is limited, as specified in Section 8.1 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}. +Data at Initial encryption MUST be retransmitted before Handshake data and +data at Handshake encryption MUST be retransmitted before any ApplicationData +data. If no data can be sent, then the PTO alarm MUST NOT be armed until +data has been received from the client. + +Because the server could be blocked until more packets are received, the client +MUST ensure that the retransmission timer is set if the client does not yet +have 1-RTT keys. If the probe timer expires before the client has 1-RTT keys, +it is possible that the client may not have any crypto data to retransmit. +However, the client MUST send a new packet, containing only PADDING frames if +necessary, to allow the server to continue sending data. If Handshake keys +are available to the client, it MUST send a Handshake packet, and otherwise +it MUST send an Initial packet in a UDP datagram of at least 1200 bytes. + +Because Initial packets only containing PADDING do not elicit an nit: "only containing" => "containing only" > +data. If no data can be sent, then the PTO alarm MUST NOT be armed until +data has been received from the client. + +Because the server could be blocked until more packets are received, the client +MUST ensure that the retransmission timer is set if the client does not yet +have 1-RTT keys. If the probe timer expires before the client has 1-RTT keys, +it is possible that the client may not have any crypto data to retransmit. +However, the client MUST send a new packet, containing only PADDING frames if +necessary, to allow the server to continue sending data. If Handshake keys +are available to the client, it MUST send a Handshake packet, and otherwise +it MUST send an Initial packet in a UDP datagram of at least 1200 bytes. + +Because Initial packets only containing PADDING do not elicit an +acknowledgement, they may never be acknowledged, but they are removed from +bytes in flight when the client gets Handshake keys and the Initial keys are +discarded. Because of this, I wonder if it might make sense to include a PING along with an otherwise PADDING only packet? > ## Probe Timeout {#pto} -A Probe Timeout (PTO) triggers a probe packet when ack-eliciting data is in -flight but an acknowledgement is not received within the expected period of -time. A PTO enables a connection to recover from loss of tail packets or acks. -The PTO algorithm used in QUIC implements the reliability functions of Tail Loss -Probe {{?TLP=I-D.dukkipati-tcpm-tcp-loss-probe}} {{?RACK}}, RTO {{?RFC5681}} and +A Probe Timeout (PTO) triggers sending one or two probe packets when This is probably obvious but it doesn't seem to explicitly say what causes 1 vs 2 packet to be sent. Perhaps this is clear elsewhere? I wonder if it might make sense to say something like "two packets, if there is sufficient data available, and one otherwise". But maybe that's not really helpful. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2806#pullrequestreview-260823749 ----==_mimepart_5d27674921e30_1f1b3ff12b0cd9682879864 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@RyanAtGoogle approved this pull request.

Wow, this looks so much cleaner.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +data it can send is limited, as specified in Section 8.1 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}.
+Data at Initial encryption MUST be retransmitted before Handshake data and
+data at Handshake encryption MUST be retransmitted before any ApplicationData
+data.  If no data can be sent, then the PTO alarm MUST NOT be armed until
+data has been received from the client.
+
+Because the server could be blocked until more packets are received, the client
+MUST ensure that the retransmission timer is set if the client does not yet
+have 1-RTT keys.  If the probe timer expires before the client has 1-RTT keys,
+it is possible that the client may not have any crypto data to retransmit.
+However, the client MUST send a new packet, containing only PADDING frames if
+necessary, to allow the server to continue sending data. If Handshake keys
+are available to the client, it MUST send a Handshake packet, and otherwise
+it MUST send an Initial packet in a UDP datagram of at least 1200 bytes.
+
+Because Initial packets only containing PADDING do not elicit an

nit: "only containing" => "containing only"

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +data.  If no data can be sent, then the PTO alarm MUST NOT be armed until
+data has been received from the client.
+
+Because the server could be blocked until more packets are received, the client
+MUST ensure that the retransmission timer is set if the client does not yet
+have 1-RTT keys.  If the probe timer expires before the client has 1-RTT keys,
+it is possible that the client may not have any crypto data to retransmit.
+However, the client MUST send a new packet, containing only PADDING frames if
+necessary, to allow the server to continue sending data. If Handshake keys
+are available to the client, it MUST send a Handshake packet, and otherwise
+it MUST send an Initial packet in a UDP datagram of at least 1200 bytes.
+
+Because Initial packets only containing PADDING do not elicit an
+acknowledgement, they may never be acknowledged, but they are removed from
+bytes in flight when the client gets Handshake keys and the Initial keys are
+discarded.

Because of this, I wonder if it might make sense to include a PING along with an otherwise PADDING only packet?

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  ## Probe Timeout {#pto}
 
-A Probe Timeout (PTO) triggers a probe packet when ack-eliciting data is in
-flight but an acknowledgement is not received within the expected period of
-time.  A PTO enables a connection to recover from loss of tail packets or acks.
-The PTO algorithm used in QUIC implements the reliability functions of Tail Loss
-Probe {{?TLP=I-D.dukkipati-tcpm-tcp-loss-probe}} {{?RACK}}, RTO {{?RFC5681}} and
+A Probe Timeout (PTO) triggers sending one or two probe packets when

This is probably obvious but it doesn't seem to explicitly say what causes 1 vs 2 packet to be sent. Perhaps this is clear elsewhere? I wonder if it might make sense to say something like "two packets, if there is sufficient data available, and one otherwise". But maybe that's not really helpful.

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Under the section Peer Denial of Service of TLS draft, a referenced was made to HTTP/2.

https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/blame/master/draft-ietf-quic-tls.md#L1393

I was wonder if this is in fact referring to HTTP/3 or HTTP/2. Also curious why the section is labelled {#useless}

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Consider the following example:
MaxEntries = 8
TotalNumberOfInserts = 4
EncInsertCount = 1

Applying the decoder pseudocode yields ReqInsertCount = 0 without signalling an error. However, the encoder should have encoded that as EncInsertCount = 0, therefore the decoder should signal an error according to the text: "If the decoder encounters a value of EncodedInsertCount that could not have been produced by a conformant encoder, it MUST treat this as a connection error of type HTTP_QPACK_DECOMPRESSION_FAILED."

The text is considered normative and the pseudocode is not. To help decoder implementations be conformant, the pseudocode should be updated to signal an error in this case. Adding the following two lines would be a correct solution:

if ReqInsertCount == 0:
  Error

However, this introduces an extra branch. It would be nice to find a more elegant decoding algorithm.

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Another bogus encoder output is:
MaxEntries = 8
TotalNumberOfInserts = 8
EncInsertCount = 1

Now MaxValue = 16, MaxWrapped = 16, so if ReqInsertCount > MaxValue branch is hit. ReqInsertCount ends up being 0, just like above, so EncInsertCount should have been 0. This particular case can be handled by replacing if ReqInsertCount < FullRange by if ReqInsertCount <= FullRange, but this does not fix the first test case above.

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Closes #2342, #2389. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2893 -- Commit Summary -- * Remove connection error response to a packets from a different source address when an endpoint has sent disable_migration, clarify an endpoints options when prohibited packets are received, rename disable_migration to disable_active_migration, and remove INVALID_MIGRATION error code. * Rewrap long line -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (54) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2893.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2893.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2893 ----==_mimepart_5d290cf896450_306d3fdc2b4cd96011846f1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Remove connection error response to a packets from a different source address when an endpoint has sent disable_migration, clarify an endpoints options when prohibited packets are received, rename disable_migration to disable_active_migration, and remove INVALID_MIGRATION error code.

Closes #2342, #2389.

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Commit Summary

  • Remove connection error response to a packets from a different source address when an endpoint has sent disable_migration, clarify an endpoints options when prohibited packets are received, rename disable_migration to disable_active_migration, and remove INVALID_MIGRATION error code.
  • Rewrap long line

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Just to clarify what text I'm adding here, this is documenting our security stance towards attacks against migration, which things we think should be possible and which things we think should not be possible. (Which ekr can continue on into a section for QUIC in general.)

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----==_mimepart_5d290dcb70bb6_51f13f84f80cd96c3189058-- From nobody Sat Jul 13 04:00:07 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAB7F120103 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 2019 04:00:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id r54aM-pRrpV0 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 2019 04:00:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0A7B7120090 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 2019 04:00:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 04:00:01 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1563015601; bh=ymAdbSxQJtKs+CmYofB//sC7vRJvpI8FlYaeZ2aEbnA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=l5KtmxOc9lmfrokmfZdpgxQd5Y2QfhYLB/HRh1xwqefDsywKTyX6rSPbP9hshmtPA 6LQKVpwRt/zEr+XQpR7kA823+anuMOcSIVl3YBFljsJCTJ/jvudsiGoYl0JpyQ2PLA D0cEYPCZ/N+FimGmj3WR3y0F+7FluvifDQcEwAg0= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] In Initial and Handshake packets, knowing undecryptable packets could accelerate handshakes with loss (#2894) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d29b9b16861a_2fe43ff6a96cd95c10706d4"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 11:00:06 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d29b9b16861a_2fe43ff6a96cd95c10706d4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Currently Initial and Handshake packets include ACK frames, but the ack_delay is now unused when ACK frames are sent at those encryption levels. We still have the ack_delay field, it just has no meaning and SHOULD be set to 0. https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-transport-22#section-19.3 We could use the field to represent the number of undecryptable packets. If we also changed the ack frame to allow 0 ack ranges(see below), then we could indicate a packet was received, but it was undecryptable early in the handshake. This provides a richer signal than the previously proposed EMPTY_ACK frame, but should be optional to support in my opinion. ie: The handshake will never rely on this field. I expect this could be very useful for debugging as well. Current Ack Frame format: 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Largest Acknowledged (i) ... +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | ACK Delay (i) ... +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | ACK Range Count (i) ... +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | First ACK Range (i) ... +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | ACK Ranges (*) ... +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | [ECN Counts] ... +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Proposed ACK frame format(so 0 ranges can be represented): 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | ACK Delay / Undecryptable Packets (i) ... +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | ACK Range Count (i) ... +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | ACK Ranges (*) ... +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | [ECN Counts] ... +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ I thought removing Largest Acknowledged would be referenced elsewhere in the draft, but I can't find it anywhere else in transport, so that's not an issue. If this seems like an idea people want to punt to v2, I'm fine with that, but I think it's worth considering. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2894 ----==_mimepart_5d29b9b16861a_2fe43ff6a96cd95c10706d4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Currently Initial and Handshake packets include ACK frames, but the ack_delay is now unused when ACK frames are sent at those encryption levels. We still have the ack_delay field, it just has no meaning and SHOULD be set to 0.
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-transport-22#section-19.3

We could use the field to represent the number of undecryptable packets. If we also changed the ack frame to allow 0 ack ranges(see below), then we could indicate a packet was received, but it was undecryptable early in the handshake.

This provides a richer signal than the previously proposed EMPTY_ACK frame, but should be optional to support in my opinion. ie: The handshake will never rely on this field.

I expect this could be very useful for debugging as well.

Current Ack Frame format:

0 1 2 3
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
| Largest Acknowledged (i) ...
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
| ACK Delay (i) ...
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
| ACK Range Count (i) ...
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
| First ACK Range (i) ...
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
| ACK Ranges (*) ...
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
| [ECN Counts] ...
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

Proposed ACK frame format(so 0 ranges can be represented):
0 1 2 3
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
| ACK Delay / Undecryptable Packets (i) ...
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
| ACK Range Count (i) ...
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
| ACK Ranges (*) ...
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
| [ECN Counts] ...
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

I thought removing Largest Acknowledged would be referenced elsewhere in the draft, but I can't find it anywhere else in transport, so that's not an issue.

If this seems like an idea people want to punt to v2, I'm fine with that, but I think it's worth considering.

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[ci skip] From nobody Sat Jul 13 04:23:06 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5380E12019F for ; Sat, 13 Jul 2019 04:23:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ceoMjq4YYXHi for ; Sat, 13 Jul 2019 04:23:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6859312019C for ; Sat, 13 Jul 2019 04:23:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 04:23:01 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1563016981; bh=3TfGi+W+KYGFguuR3PpCLKIwZxp06BMl4K3gaErgZtQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=I9wbyRNhFpm4mJmPFUaAAiJbu18mS+/q+FbynIh0X09r7aTwviBkkDPCyeJHo5/DT u3CJmMsygYjXUYhcqb2xAGBzhByDBr9lYZbuM49fGR1OL+zat5QH3TLWQevqOKBH3I xtMArvGpn8YA3AqmECqTzsnFBeZmBu6f591IQ1AE= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Merge Crypto timeout and PTO (#2806) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d29bf1554a9d_3b523fef412cd95c292961"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 11:23:05 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d29bf1554a9d_3b523fef412cd95c292961 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ianswett commented on this pull request. Thanks Ryan, I took your editorial suggestion, I can file an issue for the last comment. > ## Probe Timeout {#pto} -A Probe Timeout (PTO) triggers a probe packet when ack-eliciting data is in -flight but an acknowledgement is not received within the expected period of -time. A PTO enables a connection to recover from loss of tail packets or acks. -The PTO algorithm used in QUIC implements the reliability functions of Tail Loss -Probe {{?TLP=I-D.dukkipati-tcpm-tcp-loss-probe}} {{?RACK}}, RTO {{?RFC5681}} and +A Probe Timeout (PTO) triggers sending one or two probe packets when It's 1 or 2 because some impls only do 1 packet PTO(TLP). I could recommend two packets during the handshake, in order to speed handshake completion? It actually should be datagrams, but I'm inclined to change that in a follow-up, rather that burying it in this change? > +data. If no data can be sent, then the PTO alarm MUST NOT be armed until +data has been received from the client. + +Because the server could be blocked until more packets are received, the client +MUST ensure that the retransmission timer is set if the client does not yet +have 1-RTT keys. If the probe timer expires before the client has 1-RTT keys, +it is possible that the client may not have any crypto data to retransmit. +However, the client MUST send a new packet, containing only PADDING frames if +necessary, to allow the server to continue sending data. If Handshake keys +are available to the client, it MUST send a Handshake packet, and otherwise +it MUST send an Initial packet in a UDP datagram of at least 1200 bytes. + +Because Initial packets only containing PADDING do not elicit an +acknowledgement, they may never be acknowledged, but they are removed from +bytes in flight when the client gets Handshake keys and the Initial keys are +discarded. True, we recommend that elsewhere. 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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

Thanks Ryan, I took your editorial suggestion, I can file an issue for the last comment.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  ## Probe Timeout {#pto}
 
-A Probe Timeout (PTO) triggers a probe packet when ack-eliciting data is in
-flight but an acknowledgement is not received within the expected period of
-time.  A PTO enables a connection to recover from loss of tail packets or acks.
-The PTO algorithm used in QUIC implements the reliability functions of Tail Loss
-Probe {{?TLP=I-D.dukkipati-tcpm-tcp-loss-probe}} {{?RACK}}, RTO {{?RFC5681}} and
+A Probe Timeout (PTO) triggers sending one or two probe packets when

It's 1 or 2 because some impls only do 1 packet PTO(TLP). I could recommend two packets during the handshake, in order to speed handshake completion?

It actually should be datagrams, but I'm inclined to change that in a follow-up, rather that burying it in this change?

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +data.  If no data can be sent, then the PTO alarm MUST NOT be armed until
+data has been received from the client.
+
+Because the server could be blocked until more packets are received, the client
+MUST ensure that the retransmission timer is set if the client does not yet
+have 1-RTT keys.  If the probe timer expires before the client has 1-RTT keys,
+it is possible that the client may not have any crypto data to retransmit.
+However, the client MUST send a new packet, containing only PADDING frames if
+necessary, to allow the server to continue sending data. If Handshake keys
+are available to the client, it MUST send a Handshake packet, and otherwise
+it MUST send an Initial packet in a UDP datagram of at least 1200 bytes.
+
+Because Initial packets only containing PADDING do not elicit an
+acknowledgement, they may never be acknowledged, but they are removed from
+bytes in flight when the client gets Handshake keys and the Initial keys are
+discarded.

True, we recommend that elsewhere. I think we should change that in a follow-up though, since it's not directly related to this change?

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When there is nothing to send today, the text says you can send a PADDING only packet.

These packets will be removed from flight when Initial keys are dropped, but it may never be acknowledged, which loses some congestion control signal, including RTT measurements.

For PTO, we decided you always send a PING if PTO expires and there's nothing to send. It seems like we should say the same for the handshake case now that it's part of PTO?

This came from Ryan's comment on #2806

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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +data.  If no data can be sent, then the PTO alarm MUST NOT be armed until
+data has been received from the client.
+
+Because the server could be blocked until more packets are received, the client
+MUST ensure that the retransmission timer is set if the client does not yet
+have 1-RTT keys.  If the probe timer expires before the client has 1-RTT keys,
+it is possible that the client may not have any crypto data to retransmit.
+However, the client MUST send a new packet, containing only PADDING frames if
+necessary, to allow the server to continue sending data. If Handshake keys
+are available to the client, it MUST send a Handshake packet, and otherwise
+it MUST send an Initial packet in a UDP datagram of at least 1200 bytes.
+
+Because Initial packets only containing PADDING do not elicit an
+acknowledgement, they may never be acknowledged, but they are removed from
+bytes in flight when the client gets Handshake keys and the Initial keys are
+discarded.

#2895 filed

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----==_mimepart_5d29c12664459_4b8c3f8042acd96839749d-- From nobody Sat Jul 13 23:19:22 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20EE01201E4 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 2019 23:19:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id C41n7fI7-B1A for ; Sat, 13 Jul 2019 23:19:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-22.smtp.github.com (out-22.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.205]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2BAC31201DD for ; Sat, 13 Jul 2019 23:19:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 23:19:19 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1563085159; bh=w5YnkBZ0hG+8n9++g2njhjiHDRsuAS/tQyh5sV6faGM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=B3+6MK9WNqtpMEZYGVEZf3PEqsNI7tXUMHG0tdid4Odo67X2D/S0o5rgleGjJnNYA PfCKiLXXCbAFjHgJ+Ze5/ZUN9Ho+3PFaL05PNv/smu4Kiw6VjeZUi/ofwp3uBcjbJk w0zCpofiazBi/G6NFKryHuB++2hHBqLmeEGmQScg= From: Tatsuhiro Tsujikawa Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] unrecoverable loss pattern leads to deadlock (#2863) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d2ac9674613c_57b53f906eecd9649880e7"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: tatsuhiro-t X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 06:19:22 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d2ac9674613c_57b53f906eecd9649880e7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If I understand the issue correctly, the problem is that server drops handshake key too early before client gets ack for its last handshake flight. Server can ack any client Short packet without client last Handshake flight. That means that sending any ack-eliciting 1RTT packet from client do not fix this issue. Coalescing missing Handshake and Short packet would suffer MTU overflow as disscused in PR. I think server has to wait for client's confirmation of handshake before confirming handshake. It might be good idea to reconsider explicit signal again? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2863#issuecomment-511176770 ----==_mimepart_5d2ac9674613c_57b53f906eecd9649880e7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

If I understand the issue correctly, the problem is that server drops handshake key too early before client gets ack for its last handshake flight. Server can ack any client Short packet without client last Handshake flight. That means that sending any ack-eliciting 1RTT packet from client do not fix this issue. Coalescing missing Handshake and Short packet would suffer MTU overflow as disscused in PR.
I think server has to wait for client's confirmation of handshake before confirming handshake. It might be good idea to reconsider explicit signal again?

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -391,6 +391,15 @@ sent with 1-RTT keys, and the highest value of the Largest Acknowledged field
 in any received 1-RTT ACK frame: once the latter is higher than or equal to the
 former, the handshake is confirmed.
 
+Note:
+
+: Unless ack-eliciting packets protected by 1-RTT keys are sent by an endpoint,
+  the handshake might never be confirmed by an endpoint.  If the peer does
+  confirm the handshake, this could result in perpetual retransmission of
+  Handshake packets, which cannot be acknowledged.  To avoid this problem, in

It's definitely packets in this case. The content isn't relevant to the point, it's that they won't/can't be acknowledged.

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In reviewwing it, I noticed that this talks about messages that do nothing, but not really about messages that do little (or that can be reversed to have net zero effect). So I expanded the text a little. Closes #2890. 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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Issue #2890 observes that this text mentions HTTP/2, which isn't necessary. In reviewing it, I noticed that this talks about messages that do nothing, but not really about messages that do little (or that can be reversed to have net zero effect). So I expanded the text a little. Closes #2890. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2896 -- Commit Summary -- * Move wasteful packet stuff to -transport * Tweak language more -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md (14) M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (25) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2896.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2896.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2896 ----==_mimepart_5d2bc21ea0d60_d433f9260acd96018414d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Issue #2890 observes that this text mentions HTTP/2, which isn't
necessary. In reviewing it, I noticed that this talks about messages
that do nothing, but not really about messages that do little (or that
can be reversed to have net zero effect). So I expanded the text a
little.

Closes #2890.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2896

Commit Summary

  • Move wasteful packet stuff to -transport
  • Tweak language more

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(#2890) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d2bc271bd693_23c93fec2a6cd968410045"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 00:01:56 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d2bc271bd693_23c93fec2a6cd968410045 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That mention of h2 was a mistake. I've made a few changes after reviewing this. (The `{#useless}` thing is a joke.) -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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That mention of h2 was a mistake.

I've made a few changes after reviewing this.

(The {#useless} thing is a joke.)

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In reviewing this, and in light of the changes in #2851, I'm no longer clear on what value this transport parameter provides. It seems like the benefit extends only to the ability to not implement path validation or providing extra connection IDs. I don't think that we should be encouraging implementations to not implement providing of new connection IDs. So that leaves implementing path validation. We should probably discuss that more. All of that need not block this change. With the removal of that sentence, it looks good to go. > -Not all changes of peer address are intentional migrations. The peer could -experience NAT rebinding: a change of address due to a middlebox, usually a NAT, -allocating a new outgoing port or even a new outgoing IP address for a flow. An -endpoint MUST perform path validation ({{migrate-validate}}) if it detects any -change to a peer's address, unless it has previously validated that address. +An endpoint also MUST NOT send packets from a different local address, actively +initiating migration, if the peer sent the `disable_active_migration` transport +parameter during the handshake. An endpoint which has sent this transport +parameter, but detects that a peer has nonetheless migrated to a different +network MUST either drop the incoming packets on that path without generating a +stateless reset or proceed with path validation and allow the peer to migrate. +This helps to prevent third parties in the network causing connections to close +due to spoofed addresses or other manipulation of observed traffic. An endpoint +MUST NOT actively initiate migration if its peer supplies a zero-length +connection ID as packets without a Destination Connection ID cannot be +attributed to a connection based on address tuple. 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@martinthomson requested changes on this pull request.

In reviewing this, and in light of the changes in #2851, I'm no longer clear on what value this transport parameter provides. It seems like the benefit extends only to the ability to not implement path validation or providing extra connection IDs.

I don't think that we should be encouraging implementations to not implement providing of new connection IDs. So that leaves implementing path validation. We should probably discuss that more.

All of that need not block this change. With the removal of that sentence, it looks good to go.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -Not all changes of peer address are intentional migrations. The peer could
-experience NAT rebinding: a change of address due to a middlebox, usually a NAT,
-allocating a new outgoing port or even a new outgoing IP address for a flow.  An
-endpoint MUST perform path validation ({{migrate-validate}}) if it detects any
-change to a peer's address, unless it has previously validated that address.
+An endpoint also MUST NOT send packets from a different local address, actively
+initiating migration, if the peer sent the `disable_active_migration` transport
+parameter during the handshake. An endpoint which has sent this transport
+parameter, but detects that a peer has nonetheless migrated to a different
+network MUST either drop the incoming packets on that path without generating a
+stateless reset or proceed with path validation and allow the peer to migrate.
+This helps to prevent third parties in the network causing connections to close
+due to spoofed addresses or other manipulation of observed traffic. An endpoint
+MUST NOT actively initiate migration if its peer supplies a zero-length
+connection ID as packets without a Destination Connection ID cannot be
+attributed to a connection based on address tuple.

With the change in #2851, we don't need this last sentence. The point there is that source addresses aren't allowed to be used in routing of packets, so we don't need to worry about forbidding migration in that case.

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I don't get how the removal of Largest Acknowledged would work. We use that as an anchor point for the ACK frame, but without it you need to start at 0. Then you need to allow the first range (or gap, depending on where you want to start) be zero-length. It's not really that simple.

This smells a lot like a v2 issue to me.

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Not sure that this helps all that much. Even though you might be eliciting an acknowledgment, you will still lose the packet when you discard keys, which could still happen. All you have done is increase the work that the recipient needs to perform.

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Fixes #2889

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  • HTTP Upgrade in H3 is silliness

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See section 5.4.2 of quic-tls. It's now off by one. This is similar to #2885

   sample_offset = 6 + len(destination_connection_id) +
                       len(source_connection_id) +
                       len(payload_length) + 4
   if packet_type == Initial:
       sample_offset += len(token_length) +
                        len(token)

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----==_mimepart_5d2cb2fed7e60_43693ff3afacd964213876-- From nobody Mon Jul 15 11:54:45 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D560312013F for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2019 11:54:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id i177Rdh19CCC for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2019 11:54:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-22.smtp.github.com (out-22.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.205]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A50EB12013E for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2019 11:54:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 11:54:38 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1563216878; bh=BmEFS2y3KuMLMw57puChcQNbTcRSACVt+fnDLR9jR+Y=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=0yZZFncm9lJriTxL6y9LF3lDWjpsXy5tRRE4GHWsqQFCem8V9lwaQ4GSDhw44exE9 /5psUARWwxxneuGh/R6TyVioIkwBX4GS14jCDyTlQexh6kknCUpVRVbZmEgorTvkg6 CxCsqF9iT1jv2zMZRJvBjOhmiVIcSL9CSTHCNAhw= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP Upgrade in H3 is silliness (#2898) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d2ccbeedfd5f_40c3fa4aaacd9682307ac"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 18:54:41 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d2ccbeedfd5f_40c3fa4aaacd9682307ac Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ianswett approved this pull request. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2898#pullrequestreview-262010562 ----==_mimepart_5d2ccbeedfd5f_40c3fa4aaacd9682307ac Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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Thanks for improving the section's clarity.

As a follow up question, when implementations decide that excessive packets is an attack, is there a recommended actionable (eg. sending reset, dropping the connection, do nothing) or would that be up for implementer's discretion?

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In some testing with WinQuic, we noticed a small inconsistency in Section 12.2 of the transport spec that needs some clarification. Section 12.2 says that if decryption fails, an implementation MUST attempt to process remaining packets in a coalesced UDP datagram. However, consider the following scenario: 1. An endpoint received a UDP datagram with a single short header packet, the first of the 1-RTT encryption level. This implicitly ACKs the end of the handshake and the receiver discards the handshake keys. 2. The sender then sends a coalesced datagram with a single long-header packet (an ACK for the handshake), and then a short header packet containing more 1-RTT data. Since the receiver has thrown away the handshake keys, they are unable to decrypt the long header packet in the second datagram, and without being able to decrypt the header protection on the long header packet, they cannot ascertain the length, and are unable to find the short header packet that follows. As a result, the whole datagram is thrown away. 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In some testing with WinQuic, we noticed a small inconsistency in Section 12.2 of the transport spec that needs some clarification.
Section 12.2 says that if decryption fails, an implementation MUST attempt to process remaining packets in a coalesced UDP datagram. However, consider the following scenario:

  1. An endpoint received a UDP datagram with a single short header packet, the first of the 1-RTT encryption level. This implicitly ACKs the end of the handshake and the receiver discards the handshake keys.
  2. The sender then sends a coalesced datagram with a single long-header packet (an ACK for the handshake), and then a short header packet containing more 1-RTT data.

Since the receiver has thrown away the handshake keys, they are unable to decrypt the long header packet in the second datagram, and without being able to decrypt the header protection on the long header packet, they cannot ascertain the length, and are unable to find the short header packet that follows. As a result, the whole datagram is thrown away.

Can the "MUST" referenced above be clarified for which scenarios are/aren't supported?

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The Length field in long header packets is not encrypted, precisely to allow scenarios like this one.

Also note that an endpoint only discards handshake keys once the handshake is confirmed: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-tls-22#section-4.9.2

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----==_mimepart_5d2d19da34880_2ac93fcd60ccd96418056-- From nobody Mon Jul 15 18:08:48 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D36312014A for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2019 18:08:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.381 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.381 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9yROpcIOXRSO for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2019 18:08:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-17.smtp.github.com (out-17.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1196912015D for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2019 18:08:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 18:08:43 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1563239323; bh=lLK6kxBJ+4x4kkSKI0oETsW2FWz6kHxybQvOZPrO8OY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=SLs1B2jLxtd2yzy5j9CAvz8Q95KxKhvVj+Ca5c1cO7Cn/LohHqi1qz6PfIAqEwKM8 3lSCSQeDUAbvF4CR+EQAdlVzT2ZMX3M7qeIW0Q0cxd5DcjMIVS032eeo4k6U6GlZVY H7uSAYj3mh7QkYIdBlBdeASdueDzcG8m9jnrMwXs= From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Small clarification in 12.2 Coalescing Packets (#2900) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d2d239b1f780_599e3f8ae92cd964396877"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 01:08:47 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d2d239b1f780_599e3f8ae92cd964396877 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-transport-22#section-12.2 states: > The length of the Payload field is learned once header protection is removed. If you can't remove header protection, then you can't process any additional coalesced packets in the datagram because you don't know the length of the current packet. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2900#issuecomment-511624594 ----==_mimepart_5d2d239b1f780_599e3f8ae92cd964396877 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-transport-22#section-12.2 states:

The length of the Payload field is learned once header protection is removed.

If you can't remove header protection, then you can't process any additional coalesced packets in the datagram because you don't know the length of the current packet.

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From what I can find, header protection isn't applied to the Length field, so should that sentence be removed?

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I went back and double checked. I thought Length followed the packet number, which is variable length, but it does seem to precede the field. Perhaps all that does need to be done is to remove that sentence then.

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Closed #2650 via #2806.

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----==_mimepart_5d2d3dbd27c05_e493f9d16acd96820403b-- From nobody Mon Jul 15 20:00:27 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A769120143 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2019 20:00:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PF1c6aI-ajKj for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2019 20:00:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 875001200B2 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2019 20:00:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 20:00:12 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1563246013; bh=+EifxN3gR/WhvJekk6ndaJ07BlHAI6CxbcmK8wcmEGc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=1Wtx6/16HqiWKa5nevDuyScO7pYFDbwj4D479c+onI+r94SRVadXLxsOqWo4Jr41C wEdq9q/xIX+Lkpqh7ZT59D8ORj0oR2PHWOPLB7BJ0WfSiwHhacm8Lo2Ki5IRTh8Q4j ZxIB1IsYHoDeyiLIW+3+bTLd4Rgrd1KCqkL+XqLc= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Crypto Retransmission Timeout interacts poorly with Congestion Control (#2886) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d2d3dbced651_312d3fb76d0cd9602473b9"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 03:00:17 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d2d3dbced651_312d3fb76d0cd9602473b9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Closed #2886 via #2806. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2886#event-2484757640 ----==_mimepart_5d2d3dbced651_312d3fb76d0cd9602473b9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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I'd mark this issue as editorial and have it track the removal of the sentence `The length of the Payload field is learned once header protection is removed.` Feel free to send a PR :) -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2900#issuecomment-511666876 ----==_mimepart_5d2d5bebdabd9_36593fbb404cd96c516860 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The length is definitely not encrypted (there's no text explaining how to encrypt or decrypt it). I'd mark this issue as editorial and have it track the removal of the sentence The length of the Payload field is learned once header protection is removed. Feel free to send a PR :)

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----==_mimepart_5d2d5bebdabd9_36593fbb404cd96c516860-- From nobody Mon Jul 15 23:24:03 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B3DA120073 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2019 23:24:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.381 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.381 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dJH-YwYTvMWt for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2019 23:23:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 492BF120187 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2019 23:23:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 23:23:58 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1563258238; bh=CDfffKt0WtfrwMSlEFJhQQIfmGlMowoPGIRB3BpGPEc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=EnH+6kKdedD9bPE0LZoj7YbTVNrKqPVHhu4Hkpj8wknTWdAQ5XuEDQNJUmwxH40c9 WmHBE3vVmlF8UyYkdIWvd0p/i9p9p9xw/7yQ27SudxLuHyjeejXWt0lZ77G78BwsnM CD4sJukkk77h9Mh1f3mQGLbkfvwbcYlGeWB7ri70= From: tandf Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Fix typo (#2901) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d2d6d7e7a6a4_16983fa418ccd96c119075"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: tandf X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 06:24:01 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d2d6d7e7a6a4_16983fa418ccd96c119075 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2901 -- Commit Summary -- * Fix typo -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md (2) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2901.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2901.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2901 ----==_mimepart_5d2d6d7e7a6a4_16983fa418ccd96c119075 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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Do you maybe mean "post draft-20"? Because -22 is the latest we have.

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Yes, "as of draft-22", "post draft-20" :)

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[ci skip] From nobody Wed Jul 17 03:27:21 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C63F0120024 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2019 03:27:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2c7nJmskHDpO for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2019 03:27:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 466791201C9 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2019 03:27:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 03:27:17 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1563359237; bh=WmaW9Q21glXTl6qnjATXhpaA2rGI30QhBJFTZV9hQEY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=w+Y+fivbPwhHqaEdcyk2F32TWcIvANoVm2BzryhP4+PZgrW142vi3bebgX7113+KY d6d7YMRWSg0DHh6rk/mH4rvGJGbmXFh3oMg+TB7k3kFvump7IeNTf9cmU4L5mF91Dr 1Sb59JfbJM+lelwc+/6B9YoXrSq1GOW/uGwHtA9M= From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Replace HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME error code (#2662) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d2ef8055e53a_5f003fb7714cd96c116630"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 10:27:20 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d2ef8055e53a_5f003fb7714cd96c116630 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @rmarx suggests that we rename HTTP_INCOMPLETE_REQUEST to HTTP_REQUEST_INCOMPLETE in order to be more consistent with other error codes. 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@rmarx suggests that we rename HTTP_INCOMPLETE_REQUEST to HTTP_REQUEST_INCOMPLETE in order to be more consistent with other error codes. That SGTM so I'll make that change unless anyone disagrees.

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Is this right? It looks like this should be an if/else which still leads to loss_detection_timer.update

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When there is no smoothed_rtt, PR #2806 inadvertently removed the exponential backoff from the pseudocode.

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  • Fix lack of exponential backoff in pseudocode

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This text was already somewhat lacking by not discussing the possibility of extension frames being interleaved; stating that the push stream consists of "responses" rather than "frames" extends this shortcoming to the push stream section.

I'm open to fixing this in a separate PR, if you prefer, though.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2510,7 +2510,8 @@ Reset in response, which could lead to an infinite exchange.
 An endpoint MUST ensure that every Stateless Reset that it sends is smaller than
 the packet which triggered it, unless it maintains state sufficient to prevent
 looping.  In the event of a loop, this results in packets eventually being too
-small to trigger a response.
+small to trigger a response.  An endpoint MAY choose not to send a Stateless
+Reset in response to a packet that is smaller than 40 bytes.

This provides the end condition to the loop.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2525,9 +2526,6 @@ a small packet might result in Stateless Reset not being useful in detecting
 cases of broken connections where only very small packets are sent; such
 failures might only be detected by other means, such as timers.
 
-An endpoint can increase the odds that a packet will trigger a Stateless Reset

It might be nice to explicitly mention the packet after quiescence as part of this advice, and/or advise sending at least one 40+ byte packet in each flight.

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Fixes #2900.

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[ci skip] From nobody Wed Jul 17 07:08:01 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B19531205CB for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2019 07:07:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22lLGz0_eHPg for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2019 07:07:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1920A120410 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2019 07:07:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 07:07:56 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1563372476; bh=IufdXt63sFx/CcLyxqwawvsicU9GuEFWBJVVlPjIaqc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=CaR1vbMsnTJPNroLZThEomQH4+tecGDRuytfhvC6RrH4MV6s3dEjQozdhLw67JN0G G/E6kWSQQsEIdwiIoGrRe6hEN4LEAh4AGk1u3RY2AedbtSftBWcJ59HlbH0b+3LgnJ v+tTqc+WdWNb4rTeNBuCdhIGJiQuC75nTjHSX8FI= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Add one to sample offset for header protection (#2904) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d2f2bbca3887_6bb53fc0a42cd964200684"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 14:08:00 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d2f2bbca3887_6bb53fc0a42cd964200684 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit With the changes to invariants, this calculation was off by one. 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With the changes to invariants, this calculation was off by one.

Closes #2899.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2904

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  • Add one to sample offset for header protection

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This text was already somewhat lacking by not discussing the possibility of extension frames being interleaved; stating that the push stream consists of "responses" rather than "frames" extends this shortcoming to the push stream section.

I'm open to fixing this in a separate PR, if you prefer, though.

Good catch. I added a paragraph to explicitly allow unknown frames to the message exchange section. I also modified the wording in the push section to be more permissive of interleaved frames ("by" instead of "consists of").

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[ci skip] From nobody Wed Jul 17 09:26:05 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63D6312066F for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2019 09:26:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uRXjBgttB-iT for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2019 09:26:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-21.smtp.github.com (out-21.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.204]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 31FB6120669 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2019 09:26:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 09:26:01 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1563380761; bh=mnQyutPu+PJFO35QOaKqRgRFp37nnXDnbqesI0A0GXA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=cbbXf03SvykbhE2JUIKRONLJHWAK21cIFwxfHQC9M8ndPfBW3OkPHJgFQSFu7tp/F DTCVYIqFs1Aj9lPpS1w4DtdJHOFUF5aONcEbYZ3zylCtDBL+eFU1beoR4tE+l8nf1o 9YgAVjiAo90kmd6L+adnWwbE/2b5KPhdT4oEXv3k= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Move wasteful packet stuff to -transport (#2896) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d2f4c194aa4e_10933f840b2cd96c1751d5"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 16:26:05 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d2f4c194aa4e_10933f840b2cd96c1751d5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Maybe this needs to be stated explicitly, but there is no point in continuing discussion with an attacker. So while it might be considered polite to send a connection error, it is also acceptable to just drop any further incoming packets. I'll add that here. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2896#issuecomment-512354456 ----==_mimepart_5d2f4c194aa4e_10933f840b2cd96c1751d5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Maybe this needs to be stated explicitly, but there is no point in continuing discussion with an attacker. So while it might be considered polite to send a connection error, it is also acceptable to just drop any further incoming packets. I'll add that here.

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[ci skip] From nobody Wed Jul 17 09:33:34 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A3491203E2 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2019 09:33:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.596 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.596 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id p35QuHH8w4lR for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2019 09:33:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B9E112014B for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2019 09:33:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 09:33:30 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1563381210; bh=2k7/JeHqe8aecLIWVd61zfejEykkV8Qc5OUfGo86kCA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=xAZx9fepX5z3pay8tTvHj0f4AxZl8nT8ATCqm3drAXRt+ppZn+9OacfLkzNNVgTTU TiNihX16TMH9QcuVRMNKcj2FuyrSatMHtAFXqSUSNj28g4dhYpARhpy+bt71lNkn1S qhzDt80m33crKEdzf6E6hd1Qed4O9wrpEhyhjgkA= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Tradeoffs with padding (#2905) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d2f4ddaa056a_43653ff4e76cd95c635ae"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 16:33:33 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d2f4ddaa056a_43653ff4e76cd95c635ae Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >From a discussion on #2857: We should probably have a conversation about the trade-offs with padding. Transport-layer padding is in some ways superior, like in how it can be granular to a single byte, which reserved streams and frames cannot do. But PADDING frames at the transport aren't retransmitted when lost, which could lead to some interesting attacks if packets can be suppressed by an attacker. If retransmissions aren't padded, boom. _Originally posted by @martinthomson in https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2857/files_ -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2905 ----==_mimepart_5d2f4ddaa056a_43653ff4e76cd95c635ae Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

From a discussion on #2857:

We should probably have a conversation about the trade-offs with padding. Transport-layer padding is in some ways superior, like in how it can be granular to a single byte, which reserved streams and frames cannot do. But PADDING frames at the transport aren't retransmitted when lost, which could lead to some interesting attacks if packets can be suppressed by an attacker. If retransmissions aren't padded, boom.

Originally posted by @martinthomson in https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2857/files

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The sentence is correct. The only thing that is uncertain is the length of the packet number, but this also determines the length of the payload field. The question you are attempting to answer is the length of the packet. David is correct to point out that that length can be determined from unencrypted information.

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I don't want to take this change. See the issue.

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----==_mimepart_5d2f59bff29ee_29353fd97a8cd96014772a-- From nobody Wed Jul 17 10:41:34 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC7D7120895 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2019 10:41:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TYG3s7wCtraK for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2019 10:41:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D43C912088F for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2019 10:41:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 10:41:29 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1563385289; bh=S7VpGWFU8/5UK0ymchZ/w3gjG24MDS2TfoN4mxVXbnw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=GdvLl2Z1xICmzPVGXL/+UyNEUOpoU6rycMN86TjixMxABpmdU1S4UVJFhNRfJDFkZ 9BnRSzMNG6VcWuPnWQUkz4QhJmmRuegdyUysPo7e1VrDeiZ6kwq1bomdNs/VGPCkm/ 2wZxVw2tw4VDrrWas8nxJd4sQq6xmCVfPpeBC5xI= From: Eric Kinnear Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove DoS vector for spoofed connection migration (#2893) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d2f5dc9cc7b5_5bd13ff178ecd96c35248b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: erickinnear X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 17:41:33 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d2f5dc9cc7b5_5bd13ff178ecd96c35248b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit erickinnear commented on this pull request. > -Not all changes of peer address are intentional migrations. The peer could -experience NAT rebinding: a change of address due to a middlebox, usually a NAT, -allocating a new outgoing port or even a new outgoing IP address for a flow. An -endpoint MUST perform path validation ({{migrate-validate}}) if it detects any -change to a peer's address, unless it has previously validated that address. +An endpoint also MUST NOT send packets from a different local address, actively +initiating migration, if the peer sent the `disable_active_migration` transport +parameter during the handshake. An endpoint which has sent this transport +parameter, but detects that a peer has nonetheless migrated to a different +network MUST either drop the incoming packets on that path without generating a +stateless reset or proceed with path validation and allow the peer to migrate. +This helps to prevent third parties in the network causing connections to close +due to spoofed addresses or other manipulation of observed traffic. An endpoint +MUST NOT actively initiate migration if its peer supplies a zero-length +connection ID as packets without a Destination Connection ID cannot be +attributed to a connection based on address tuple. Good point! We cover this area much more thoroughly elsewhere, I'll remove this. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2893#discussion_r304559152 ----==_mimepart_5d2f5dc9cc7b5_5bd13ff178ecd96c35248b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -Not all changes of peer address are intentional migrations. The peer could
-experience NAT rebinding: a change of address due to a middlebox, usually a NAT,
-allocating a new outgoing port or even a new outgoing IP address for a flow.  An
-endpoint MUST perform path validation ({{migrate-validate}}) if it detects any
-change to a peer's address, unless it has previously validated that address.
+An endpoint also MUST NOT send packets from a different local address, actively
+initiating migration, if the peer sent the `disable_active_migration` transport
+parameter during the handshake. An endpoint which has sent this transport
+parameter, but detects that a peer has nonetheless migrated to a different
+network MUST either drop the incoming packets on that path without generating a
+stateless reset or proceed with path validation and allow the peer to migrate.
+This helps to prevent third parties in the network causing connections to close
+due to spoofed addresses or other manipulation of observed traffic. An endpoint
+MUST NOT actively initiate migration if its peer supplies a zero-length
+connection ID as packets without a Destination Connection ID cannot be
+attributed to a connection based on address tuple.

Good point! We cover this area much more thoroughly elsewhere, I'll remove this.

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Ok. That makes sense. I think we can then just close this issue as a misunderstanding, as well as my PR.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -Not all changes of peer address are intentional migrations. The peer could
-experience NAT rebinding: a change of address due to a middlebox, usually a NAT,
-allocating a new outgoing port or even a new outgoing IP address for a flow.  An
-endpoint MUST perform path validation ({{migrate-validate}}) if it detects any
-change to a peer's address, unless it has previously validated that address.
+An endpoint also MUST NOT send packets from a different local address, actively
+initiating migration, if the peer sent the `disable_active_migration` transport
+parameter during the handshake. An endpoint which has sent this transport
+parameter, but detects that a peer has nonetheless migrated to a different
+network MUST either drop the incoming packets on that path without generating a
+stateless reset or proceed with path validation and allow the peer to migrate.
+This helps to prevent third parties in the network causing connections to close
+due to spoofed addresses or other manipulation of observed traffic. An endpoint
+MUST NOT actively initiate migration if its peer supplies a zero-length
+connection ID as packets without a Destination Connection ID cannot be
+attributed to a connection based on address tuple.

Removed in 5a7293d

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Re: The value of this TP, I tend to agree with @martinthomson, pretty much all of the machinery must be implemented whether or not the TP is sent. But agreed - let's discuss elsewhere, since I think this particular change is in pretty good shape now.

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Wed, 17 Jul 2019 14:03:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 14:03:37 -0700 From: =?UTF-8?B?SmVyZW15IExhaW7DqQ==?= Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Pseudo-code for SetLossDetectionTimer looks odd (#2906) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d2f8d29dca3c_25453f89d6ecd96c23643d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: jlaine X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 21:03:41 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d2f8d29dca3c_25453f89d6ecd96c23643d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The pseudo-code for `SetLossDetectionTimer` contains the following: ``` // Don't arm timer if there are no ack-eliciting packets // in flight and the handshake is complete. if (endpoint is client with 1-RTT keys && no ack-eliciting packets in flight): loss_detection_timer.cancel() return ``` Unless I'm mistaken the first condition of the `if` doesn't match the comment. I don't think we should be re-arming the timer in the following conditions: - server without 1-RTT keys and no ack-eliciting packets in flight - server with 1-RTT keys and no ack-eliciting packets in flight It's not beautiful but the `if` should probably be more like: ``` if (no ack-eliciting packets in flight && (endpoint is server or has 1-RTT keys)): ``` Thoughts @ianswett ? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2906 ----==_mimepart_5d2f8d29dca3c_25453f89d6ecd96c23643d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The pseudo-code for SetLossDetectionTimer contains the following:

  // Don't arm timer if there are no ack-eliciting packets
  // in flight and the handshake is complete.
  if (endpoint is client with 1-RTT keys &&
      no ack-eliciting packets in flight):
    loss_detection_timer.cancel()
    return

Unless I'm mistaken the first condition of the if doesn't match the comment. I don't think we should be re-arming the timer in the following conditions:

  • server without 1-RTT keys and no ack-eliciting packets in flight
  • server with 1-RTT keys and no ack-eliciting packets in flight

It's not beautiful but the if should probably be more like:

    if (no ack-eliciting packets in flight && (endpoint is server or has 1-RTT keys)):

Thoughts @ianswett ?

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Fixes #2906

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See PR #2907 I'm not sure the updated comment is that useful given the verbosity of the pseudocode, but suggestions are welcome. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2906#issuecomment-512596969 ----==_mimepart_5d2fa60ec71a9_340e3ff1af0cd95c111531 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

You're right, it's now subtly incorrect and your suggestion is a good one. See PR #2907

I'm not sure the updated comment is that useful given the verbosity of the pseudocode, but suggestions are welcome.

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[ci skip] From nobody Thu Jul 18 04:20:11 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3A831200BA for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2019 04:20:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sN9c1e_ebs0R for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2019 04:20:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-18.smtp.github.com (out-18.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 85C03120052 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2019 04:20:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 04:20:07 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1563448807; bh=tAo+l+BTLgXkX68DVP9npnvzRZbkIHZayHicnztWJvY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=mutEpVWZ1eOTgEbXRwbT1SIobkpP6cwj3SSROSdp3e++Q3neKR4Oag4yHICK7nVFC BgG+16Q5ZoNzZC6YmGjtYs3Uls2R2eLY2rn1/ZLG+m3yWA4n+19GW/je2YTRT9BBQ4 BaS3BseWxoXVJ7ivFu1IwN0/N+ie4evqzj0hxZQM= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Fix Recovery Pseudocode (#2907) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d3055e788577_2fef3f8415acd96427293d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 11:20:10 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d3055e788577_2fef3f8415acd96427293d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When do you use parentheses? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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When do you use parentheses?

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It appears most conditionals have parentheses currently, except for 1177. Are you suggesting to add them there or something else?

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I get this text. The vacation helped me, but I still struggle to work out the full pathology.

So, can we move forward: What happens if that "unmeasured" timeout period expires, is the timeout re-initialized to increase it to 3 seconds [RFC6298] [RFC8085]. I think this conservative increase is necessary to avoid congestion collapse when many flows retransmit across a shared bottleneck with restricted capacity.

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----==_mimepart_5d306d73c4fc_fcc3fe7af0cd95c3070c2-- From nobody Thu Jul 18 06:14:26 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59464120270 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2019 06:14:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.596 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.596 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0PU5U95d3tQM for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2019 06:14:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7AD4E12008F for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2019 06:14:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 06:14:22 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1563455662; bh=Xhv7JUKZXiGz6vdH7xzZ7IYyV0AWDveAnuBZXVzA52M=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ogaGDgAzG6tWm9H7crdVU+77IVPzk534dJ5uOlpx5v3paBxZg+peG0qDJEvtQUEmi qR6qk7PjHkB70MFvl55Chb32XTZ25ujfrk5dmU+WurbMWfTLC7Ld7gC/oryRC4jQky u/wzT3Ngyd4xw0NWqCbHUN+f9Izv65EIjUjaLKxY= From: Gorry Fairhurst Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Why is Min RTT kept for the connection lifetime? (#2908) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d3070ae8d924_614d3f7e840cd9643417eb"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: gorryfair X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 13:14:25 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d3070ae8d924_614d3f7e840cd9643417eb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Section 5.2 of draft-ietf-quic-recovery:=0D =0D (1) the minimum value observed over the lifetime of the connection=0D =0D - Why a minimum specified over the entire lifetime? There are paths where= the initial RTT may the lower, I am unable to see why that artefact shou= ld have a long-term impact on the connection. Even if it is just a change= in traffic sharing the path=E2=80=99s bottleneck, it still isn=E2=80=99t= something that needs to have impact for the lifetime of a connection. Ca= n=E2=80=99t we decay the value somehow, so that it reflect the recent min= _RTT.=0D =0D draft-ietf-quic-recovery, and here is why a smaller than current min_RTT = is problematic:=0D (2) MUST NOT apply the adjustment if the resulting RTT sample is=0D smaller than the min_rtt. This limits the underestimation that a=0D= misreporting peer can cause to the smoothed_rtt.=0D =0D - How do I understand this works with paths exhibiting varying path delay= ? I still can=E2=80=99t fathom what will happen when the lowest RTT in r= ecent time is much larger than the min_RTT, because the RTT floor has inc= reased (e.g. because of a change at L2). I see some rather strange behavi= our in traces of QUIC when there is large long-term jitter. At present, I= think this results in making inappropriate adjustments?=0D =0D =0D -- =0D You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.=0D Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub:=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2908= ----==_mimepart_5d3070ae8d924_614d3f7e840cd9643417eb Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Section 5.2 of draft-ietf-quic-recovery:

=0D

(1) the minimum value observed over the lifetime of the connection=0D

    =0D
  • Why a minimum specified over the entire lifetime? There are paths whe= re the initial RTT may the lower, I am unable to see why that artefact sh= ould have a long-term impact on the connection. Even if it is just a chan= ge in traffic sharing the path=E2=80=99s bottleneck, it still isn=E2=80=99= t something that needs to have impact for the lifetime of a connection. C= an=E2=80=99t we decay the value somehow, so that it reflect the recent mi= n_RTT.
    • =0D
=0D

draft-ietf-quic-recovery, and here is why a smaller than current min_R= TT is problematic:
=0D (2) MUST NOT apply the adjustment if the resulting RTT sample is
=0D smaller than the min_rtt. This limits the underestimation that a
=0D misreporting peer can cause to the smoothed_rtt.

=0D
    =0D
  • How do I understand this works with paths exhibiting varying path del= ay? I still can=E2=80=99t fathom what will happen when the lowest RTT in= recent time is much larger than the min_RTT, because the RTT floor has i= ncreased (e.g. because of a change at L2). I see some rather strange beha= viour in traces of QUIC when there is large long-term jitter. At present,= I think this results in making inappropriate adjustments?
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(#2909) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d3073395d253_55603fa8f92cd96842261a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: gorryfair X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 13:25:16 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d3073395d253_55603fa8f92cd96842261a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is awkward, because the issue of assumptions about the path appears = spread over multiple places.=0D =0D Section 9.4 of draft-ietf-quic-transport :=0D The capacity available on the new path might not be the same as the=0D= old path. Packets sent on the old path SHOULD NOT contribute to=0D congestion control or RTT estimation for the new path.=0D GF: That would be fine **IF** the new path were a separate CC context, wh= ich I am not yet clear whether it is, read on:=0D =E2=80=94=0D Section 9.4 of draft-ietf-quic-transport :=0D On confirming a peer's ownership of its new address, an endpoint=0D SHOULD immediately reset the congestion controller and round-trip=0D time estimator for the new path.=0D GF: Why not MUST? - because I think this is a new path, I think it can on= ly be should if something can confirm this is the same set of network-dev= ices and classifiers on the path. I don't know how you would know that, a= nd I don't like the guess.=0D =E2=80=94=0D draft-ietf-quic-transport :=0D For instance, a change in the client's port=0D number is likely indicative of a rebinding in a middlebox and not a=0D= complete change in path. =0D GF: So. maybe this is the guess, and I don't believe it! In a world of EC= MP and other methods, this needs to be treated as a potential change of p= ath.=0D =E2=80=94=0D Section 9.4 of draft-ietf-quic-transport:=0D While multiple paths might be used during connection migration, a=0D single congestion control context and a single loss recovery context=0D= (as described in [QUIC-RECOVERY]) may be adequate. =0D GF: Well it could if the paths **WERE** known to be identical, but how wo= uld an endpoint guarantee that? Section 9.2 of QUIC transport seems to su= ggest the CC is reset for the new path, which I would agree with, but whi= ch part of QUIC recovery says that?=0D =E2=80=94=0D draft-ietf-quic-recovery:=0D For instance, an=0D endpoint might delay switching to a new congestion control context=0D until it is confirmed that an old path is no longer needed (such as=0D= the case in Section 9.3.3).=0D GF: This seems underspecified and novel to me. I think it may b quite OK= to continue using the old path and the old CC, for a while. Same questio= n: is this implying the two paths share a single CC and is there some rea= l mechanism to detect that they are really the same set of network device= s on path?=0D =0D =0D -- =0D You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.=0D Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub:=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2909= ----==_mimepart_5d3073395d253_55603fa8f92cd96842261a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

This is awkward, because the issue of assumptions about the path appea= rs spread over multiple places.

=0D

Section 9.4 of draft-ietf-quic-transport :
=0D The capacity available on the new path might not be the same as the
=0D= old path. Packets sent on the old path SHOULD NOT contribute to
=0D congestion control or RTT estimation for the new path.
=0D GF: That would be fine IF the new path were a separate C= C context, which I am not yet clear whether it is, read on:
=0D =E2=80=94
=0D Section 9.4 of draft-ietf-quic-transport :
=0D On confirming a peer's ownership of its new address, an endpoint
=0D SHOULD immediately reset the congestion controller and round-trip
=0D time estimator for the new path.
=0D GF: Why not MUST? - because I think this is a new path, I think it can on= ly be should if something can confirm this is the same set of network-dev= ices and classifiers on the path. I don't know how you would know that, a= nd I don't like the guess.
=0D =E2=80=94
=0D draft-ietf-quic-transport :
=0D For instance, a change in the client's port
=0D number is likely indicative of a rebinding in a middlebox and not a
=0D= complete change in path.
=0D GF: So. maybe this is the guess, and I don't believe it! In a world of EC= MP and other methods, this needs to be treated as a potential change of p= ath.
=0D =E2=80=94
=0D Section 9.4 of draft-ietf-quic-transport:
=0D While multiple paths might be used during connection migration, a
=0D single congestion control context and a single loss recovery context
=0D= (as described in [QUIC-RECOVERY]) may be adequate.
=0D GF: Well it could if the paths WERE known to be identica= l, but how would an endpoint guarantee that? Section 9.2 of QUIC transpor= t seems to suggest the CC is reset for the new path, which I would agree = with, but which part of QUIC recovery says that?
=0D =E2=80=94
=0D draft-ietf-quic-recovery:
=0D For instance, an
=0D endpoint might delay switching to a new congestion control context
=0D= until it is confirmed that an old path is no longer needed (such as
=0D= the case in Section 9.3.3).
=0D GF: This seems underspecified and novel to me. I think it may b quite OK= to continue using the old path and the old CC, for a while. Same questio= n: is this implying the two paths share a single CC and is there some rea= l mechanism to detect that they are really the same set of network device= s on path?

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Section 9.4 of draft-ietf-quic-transport:
An endpoint might set a
separate timer when a PATH_CHALLENGE is sent, which is cancelled when
the corresponding PATH_RESPONSE is received. If the timer fires
before the PATH_RESPONSE is received, the endpoint might send a new
PATH_CHALLENGE, and restart the timer for a longer period of time.

GF: Possibly so, but what value has this timeout?

  • To avoid potential congestion collapse, I think this needs to be conservative enough to deal with paths with significant RTT variance, or where there is a change of base RTT. 1 sec, then 3 seconds, and then exponentially backed-off would be expected for TCP SYNs, and I suggest could be appropriate.

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I believe the relevant text is(?):
" (5.7) If the timer expires awaiting the ACK of a SYN segment and the
TCP implementation is using an RTO less than 3 seconds, the RTO
MUST be re-initialized to 3 seconds when data transmission
begins (i.e., after the three-way handshake completes)."

I believe that's saying the RTO should be set to 3 seconds if any syn timers expired? Do implementations(ie: Linux, Windows, etc) do that? If so, that means a single packet loss in the handshake causes the RTO to increase to 3 seconds, but a subsequent data packet loss would not have that effect?

@gorryfair If you're in Montreal Saturday or Sunday at the Hackathon, maybe we can talk about this more and figure out what to do here?

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----==_mimepart_5d31a57e98847_26713fa3f02cd96c20826c-- From nobody Fri Jul 19 05:59:20 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CECE4120183 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 05:59:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ak3t_gxr7ASi for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 05:59:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ED563120052 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 05:59:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 05:59:15 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1563541155; bh=BzNIthP56yOsJBFN75BW2l18AacJLwg986XQCwgdO0A=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=QmWqWD/e0iB9UCl5jIzmOck6Dl5wgtNAjQPz7pvWQJ1jctzm9Dq2v5MDRGjSGsPNt iYiad+5sAiwJ6N5X3z+r0DGcYDvWNcHEdhMx9KnbfBBpEr07novbMHDKuxOfd/7AVG +QT+6eu1q/SGBveJowSePT5EAYw2cBfSLnvLuaYo= From: Gorry Fairhurst Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Use a higher seed RTT for new paths (#2789) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d31bea3196e_529b3fa050acd96c1162f6"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: gorryfair X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 12:59:18 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d31bea3196e_529b3fa050acd96c1162f6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, let=E2=80=99s talk Montreal.=0D =0D I think your comments hold true - and this is about backing off an initia= l exchange, not about data when there has already been a handshake. In a = @normal@ case, you should not see this happen. Talk to you sat (or if not= , on sun).=0D =0D Gorry=0D =0D > On 19 Jul 2019, at 12:11, ianswett wrote:=0D= > =0D > I believe the relevant text is(?):=0D > " (5.7) If the timer expires awaiting the ACK of a SYN segment and the=0D= > TCP implementation is using an RTO less than 3 seconds, the RTO=0D > MUST be re-initialized to 3 seconds when data transmission=0D > begins (i.e., after the three-way handshake completes)."=0D > =0D > I believe that's saying the RTO should be set to 3 seconds if any syn t= imers expired? Do implementations(ie: Linux, Windows, etc) do that? If so= , that means a single packet loss in the handshake causes the RTO to incr= ease to 3 seconds, but a subsequent data packet loss would not have that = effect?=0D > =0D > @gorryfair If you're in Montreal Saturday or Sunday at the Hackathon, m= aybe we can talk about this more and figure out what to do here?=0D > =0D > =E2=80=94=0D > You are receiving this because you were mentioned.=0D > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub, or mute the thread.=0D= =0D =0D -- =0D You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.=0D Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub:=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2789#issuecomment-513219110= ----==_mimepart_5d31bea3196e_529b3fa050acd96c1162f6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, let=E2=80=99s talk Montreal.
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=0D I think your comments hold true - and this is about backing off an initia= l exchange, not about data when there has already been a handshake. In a = @normal@ case, you should not see this happen. Talk to you sat (or if not= , on sun).
=0D
=0D Gorry
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=0D > On 19 Jul 2019, at 12:11, ianswett <notifications@github.com> = wrote:
=0D >
=0D > I believe the relevant text is(?):
=0D > " (5.7) If the timer expires awaiting the ACK of a SYN segment = and the
=0D > TCP implementation is using an RTO less than 3 seconds, the RTO
=0D= > MUST be re-initialized to 3 seconds when data transmission
=0D > begins (i.e., after the three-way handshake completes)."
=0D= >
=0D > I believe that's saying the RTO should be set to 3 seconds if an= y syn timers expired? Do implementations(ie: Linux, Windows, etc) do that= ? If so, that means a single packet loss in the handshake causes the RTO = to increase to 3 seconds, but a subsequent data packet loss would not hav= e that effect?
=0D >
=0D > @gorryfair If you're in Montreal Saturday or Sunday at the Hacka= thon, maybe we can talk about this more and figure out what to do here?=0D >
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@ianswett pushed 1 commit.

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SG, done. I also fixed some missing ':'

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(#2911) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d33292746d84_1e8b3f85920cd96814093d7"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: DaanDeMeyer X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2019 14:46:03 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d33292746d84_1e8b3f85920cd96814093d7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit With the recent changes in HTTP/3 errors, it becomes possible to completely divide errors into stream errors and connection errors, with each error being either a stream error or connection error. As a result, we can also remove the possibility to treat a stream error as a connection error which allows implementations to determine whether an error is a stream error or a connection error based solely on its type. As far as I can determine from the draft, only HTTP_STREAM_CREATION_ERROR is used as both a stream error and a connection error. It is only used as a stream error when a peer opens a unidirectional stream of an unknown type. If a new error HTTP_UKNOWN_STREAM_TYPE is split of as a stream error from HTTP_STREAM_CREATION_ERROR, HTTP_STREAM_CREATION_ERROR can be classed as solely a connection error. [This analysis](https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2662#issuecomment-507529717) from @kazuho further lists HTTP_NO_ERROR and HTTP_GENERAL_PROTOCOL_ERROR as errors that can be both connection and stream errors. I think these can be safely classed as solely connection errors. HTTP_NO_ERROR is only defined in the draft for usage in CONNECTION_CLOSE, I'm not sure when it would be used as a stream error (we have more specific error codes to indicate intent when closing a stream). HTTP_GENERAL_PROTOCOL_ERROR is only used as a stream error in the section discussing malformed requests/responses. I'd suggest using a more descriptive error for this case (HTTP_MALFORMED_MESSAGE for example) and treating HTTP_GENERAL_PROTOCOL_ERROR as solely a connection error. An error being either a connection error or a stream error simplifies implementation as they don't have to check on every error if it was communicated as a stream error or a connection error. Upgrading a stream error to a connection error is not a sensible approach for the existing stream errors (for example, closing the connection because of `REQUEST_CANCELLED` does not sound like a reasonable approach). If an implementation chooses to treat a stream error as a connection error, perhaps the INTERNAL_ERROR code should be used instead as not being able to handle a stream error without closing the connection is an implementation issue and should be treated as a bug. There's probably some things I'm overlooking. Any feedback is welcome. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2911 ----==_mimepart_5d33292746d84_1e8b3f85920cd96814093d7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

With the recent changes in HTTP/3 errors, it becomes possible to completely divide errors into stream errors and connection errors, with each error being either a stream error or connection error. As a result, we can also remove the possibility to treat a stream error as a connection error which allows implementations to determine whether an error is a stream error or a connection error based solely on its type.

As far as I can determine from the draft, only HTTP_STREAM_CREATION_ERROR is used as both a stream error and a connection error. It is only used as a stream error when a peer opens a unidirectional stream of an unknown type. If a new error HTTP_UKNOWN_STREAM_TYPE is split of as a stream error from HTTP_STREAM_CREATION_ERROR, HTTP_STREAM_CREATION_ERROR can be classed as solely a connection error.

This analysis from @kazuho further lists HTTP_NO_ERROR and HTTP_GENERAL_PROTOCOL_ERROR as errors that can be both connection and stream errors. I think these can be safely classed as solely connection errors.

HTTP_NO_ERROR is only defined in the draft for usage in CONNECTION_CLOSE, I'm not sure when it would be used as a stream error (we have more specific error codes to indicate intent when closing a stream).

HTTP_GENERAL_PROTOCOL_ERROR is only used as a stream error in the section discussing malformed requests/responses. I'd suggest using a more descriptive error for this case (HTTP_MALFORMED_MESSAGE for example) and treating HTTP_GENERAL_PROTOCOL_ERROR as solely a connection error.

An error being either a connection error or a stream error simplifies implementation as they don't have to check on every error if it was communicated as a stream error or a connection error. Upgrading a stream error to a connection error is not a sensible approach for the existing stream errors (for example, closing the connection because of REQUEST_CANCELLED does not sound like a reasonable approach). If an implementation chooses to treat a stream error as a connection error, perhaps the INTERNAL_ERROR code should be used instead as not being able to handle a stream error without closing the connection is an implementation issue and should be treated as a bug.

There's probably some things I'm overlooking. Any feedback is welcome.

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One editorial suggestion

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -INVALID_MIGRATION.  Similarly, an endpoint MUST NOT initiate migration if its
-peer supplies a zero-length connection ID as packets without a Destination
-Connection ID cannot be attributed to a connection based on address tuple.
-
-Not all changes of peer address are intentional migrations. The peer could
-experience NAT rebinding: a change of address due to a middlebox, usually a NAT,
-allocating a new outgoing port or even a new outgoing IP address for a flow.  An
-endpoint MUST perform path validation ({{migrate-validate}}) if it detects any
-change to a peer's address, unless it has previously validated that address.
+An endpoint also MUST NOT send packets from a different local address, actively
+initiating migration, if the peer sent the `disable_active_migration` transport
+parameter during the handshake. An endpoint which has sent this transport
+parameter, but detects that a peer has nonetheless migrated to a different
+network MUST either drop the incoming packets on that path without generating a
+stateless reset or proceed with path validation and allow the peer to migrate.
+This helps to prevent third parties in the network causing connections to close

This = Not generating a stateless reset? If so, how about "Generating a stateless reset would allow third parties in the network to cause a connection to close by spoofing or other manipulation of observed traffic."?

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -391,6 +391,15 @@ sent with 1-RTT keys, and the highest value of the Largest Acknowledged field
 in any received 1-RTT ACK frame: once the latter is higher than or equal to the
 former, the handshake is confirmed.
 
+Note:
+
+: Unless ack-eliciting packets protected by 1-RTT keys are sent by an endpoint,
+  the handshake might never be confirmed by an endpoint.  If the peer does
+  confirm the handshake, this could result in perpetual retransmission of
+  Handshake packets, which cannot be acknowledged.  To avoid this problem, in

I thought the whole point of QUIC is that frames or data are retransmitted, not packets?

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  • 50f28c1 It's not really retransmission

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If the peer does + confirm the handshake, this could result in perpetual retransmission of + Handshake packets, which cannot be acknowledged. To avoid this problem, in This isn't really about retransmission, so I removed the "re". -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2881#discussion_r305594026 ----==_mimepart_5d338a2f1b09c_3ad33ff0284cd96820182e6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -391,6 +391,15 @@ sent with 1-RTT keys, and the highest value of the Largest Acknowledged field
 in any received 1-RTT ACK frame: once the latter is higher than or equal to the
 former, the handshake is confirmed.
 
+Note:
+
+: Unless ack-eliciting packets protected by 1-RTT keys are sent by an endpoint,
+  the handshake might never be confirmed by an endpoint.  If the peer does
+  confirm the handshake, this could result in perpetual retransmission of
+  Handshake packets, which cannot be acknowledged.  To avoid this problem, in

This isn't really about retransmission, so I removed the "re".

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I merged #2806, so you'll need to resolve conflicts, unless you want me to try to do that?

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@martinduke requested changes on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1188,9 +1188,10 @@ SetLossDetectionTimer():
     return
 
   // Don't arm timer if there are no ack-eliciting packets
-  // in flight and the handshake is complete.
-  if (endpoint is client with 1-RTT keys &&
-      no ack-eliciting packets in flight):
+  // in flight and the endpoint is a server or has
+  // completed the handshake.
+  if (no ack-eliciting packets in flight &&
+      (endpoint is server or has 1-RTT keys)):

endpoint is server or has received hs ack or an ack of an 1-RTT packet (not a 1-RTT packet, this could be an ack of 0RTT)

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1188,9 +1188,10 @@ SetLossDetectionTimer():
     return
 
   // Don't arm timer if there are no ack-eliciting packets
-  // in flight and the handshake is complete.
-  if (endpoint is client with 1-RTT keys &&
-      no ack-eliciting packets in flight):
+  // in flight and the endpoint is a server or has
+  // completed the handshake.
+  if (no ack-eliciting packets in flight &&
+      (endpoint is server or has 1-RTT keys)):

Sorry, just add "has received HS ack" and we're good. There's a case where the server flight doesn't fit in a cwnd and the extra text may save us a crypto timeout.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>    if (no ack-eliciting packets in flight &&
-      (endpoint is server or has 1-RTT keys)):
+      (endpoint is server or has 1-RTT keys
+       or has received Handshake ACK)):

we should be consistent about || vs or and && vs and

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[ci skip] From nobody Sat Jul 20 18:54:10 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F03A1120033 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 2019 18:54:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SdR4gzLR6RDg for ; Sat, 20 Jul 2019 18:54:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1811D120018 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 2019 18:54:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2019 18:54:05 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1563674045; bh=f0ixmpAoujGryraBamzIVITsURyq1I/6LyRWA6TyAXM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=zjEkklgGQrDLUj/UG+9kqnnjqdMUreeAABjWl9gR0lQLo8+rcI8UUbSksmp50OZPy ZDCH+KQHRdeSuXOqK/oy8R9JZ9pJ1UkpWeezxub3p86IP/m15pRgulvFO/qgBVy9Vn JRui/w0GZpCaDusugxHpyOJS57Qn1i6f2A9d7e/4= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Fix Recovery Pseudocode (#2907) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d33c5bde1c65_1e8b3f85920cd96822060a4"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2019 01:54:09 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d33c5bde1c65_1e8b3f85920cd96822060a4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson commented on this pull request. > @@ -1175,7 +1175,7 @@ GetEarliestLossTime(): space = Initial for pn_space in [ Handshake, ApplicationData ]: if (loss_time[pn_space] != 0 && - (time == 0 || loss_time[pn_space] < time)): + (time == 0 or loss_time[pn_space] < time)): so && for and and "or" for || ? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1175,7 +1175,7 @@ GetEarliestLossTime():
   space = Initial
   for pn_space in [ Handshake, ApplicationData ]:
     if (loss_time[pn_space] != 0 &&
-        (time == 0 || loss_time[pn_space] < time)):
+        (time == 0 or loss_time[pn_space] < time)):

so && for and and "or" for || ?

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1175,7 +1175,7 @@ GetEarliestLossTime():
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   for pn_space in [ Handshake, ApplicationData ]:
     if (loss_time[pn_space] != 0 &&
-        (time == 0 || loss_time[pn_space] < time)):
+        (time == 0 or loss_time[pn_space] < time)):

Prior to this PR, most of the pseudocode was && and || I realize, so I'm going back to that.

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----==_mimepart_5d3454ecdb6_5db03fd005ccd96c97145-- From nobody Sun Jul 21 05:17:06 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FE8B12008C for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2019 05:17:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id c1bjNPif2eN3 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2019 05:17:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A52FD12004E for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2019 05:17:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2019 05:17:01 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1563711421; bh=zwxWYQGG/1pSVqT1IvhoUYj/TKBgAAuwIO5C1OOIack=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ijCtVUofFOTVF2KVmH14M4wZ2wCNx4iaASbLnn0nWeW/vRk6XNb/DgR6pVsq4NGq0 yuugr/oHtva6tOmyMQIVYp37AjwQafg+L7IL7eLfHtCC2UitrWmOTa4ERKHLLBqo/r 7r3Kh56LKgAGdZs44CiWR2x9XFqqRAzAaAeWrR5o= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Explain asymmetric confirmation condition (#2881) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d3457bdd2f73_36023f81046cd968203835"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2019 12:17:04 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d3457bdd2f73_36023f81046cd968203835 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ianswett commented on this pull request. > @@ -629,6 +629,14 @@ MAY use alternate strategies for determining the content of probe packets, including sending new or retransmitted data based on the application's priorities. +If the handshake is complete, but not confirmed (see Section 4.1.1 and Section I think it might make sense to work this into the "Handshakes and New Paths" section above? The way I'm now thinking of this is: It's the client's job to drive the handshake to confirmation, and here's what is necessary to ensure that occurs... Does that make sense? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2881#pullrequestreview-264534049 ----==_mimepart_5d3457bdd2f73_36023f81046cd968203835 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -629,6 +629,14 @@ MAY use alternate strategies for determining the content of probe packets,
 including sending new or retransmitted data based on the application's
 priorities.
 
+If the handshake is complete, but not confirmed (see Section 4.1.1 and Section

I think it might make sense to work this into the "Handshakes and New Paths" section above?

The way I'm now thinking of this is: It's the client's job to drive the handshake to confirmation, and here's what is necessary to ensure that occurs... Does that make sense?

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It doesn't help that much, but it's a lot more consistent with the rest of the PTO design, so I think it's preferable.

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In discussing our PTO strategy yesterday I realized that you only send a packet if you have something ack- eliciting outstanding. Would you not want to send that again?

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Fixed #2895 which discusses sending an ack-eliciting packet instead of a PADDING only packet to unblock the server.

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Prior to handshake confirmation, the client needs to drive the handshake to confirmation so it may have to send something, as your PR #2881 discusses -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2895#issuecomment-513549825 ----==_mimepart_5d345a8bb830e_64843f851b6cd95c399fc Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Sometimes you can't send that again once the handshake is confirmed(there's an example in the text, but the easiest is something unreliable like DATAGRAM).

Prior to handshake confirmation, the client needs to drive the handshake to confirmation so it may have to send something, as your PR #2881 discusses

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -629,6 +629,14 @@ MAY use alternate strategies for determining the content of probe packets,
 including sending new or retransmitted data based on the application's
 priorities.
 
+If the handshake is complete, but not confirmed (see Section 4.1.1 and Section

Also, now that I read the existing text again, I'm wondering if the "Sending Probe Packets" section should be before "Handshakes and New Paths"?

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Connection Reuse

A server that does not wish clients to reuse connections for a particular origin can indicate that ...

s/can/MAY/ - use RFC2119 terminology.

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fixes #2913

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This change makes it clear that is allowed. 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Now that the PTO retransmits Initial and Handshake data, it's possible and likely desirable to bundle multiple QUIC packets in a single datagram. This change makes it clear that is allowed.

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----==_mimepart_5d346da2b6248_14173ffcd64cd96c8001a-- From nobody Sun Jul 21 06:51:25 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D821F120024 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2019 06:51:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yb6SqZOEP2ms for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2019 06:51:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F2A84120020 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2019 06:51:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2019 06:51:21 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1563717081; bh=Aee5F/gHalR+d3eF1l8BkyNRqtGUcRScEO/VGIMIwRY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=bPwx6koC0tsbM+zfMvp17+xHehniCH5EoYqnVPzJAfe/OLeK6Q8tSrSQa2+OXSpwq t+QtaZrtv8HeVVfHdgSdenfDz0Yjk9jSRRIuda2HTtamv9SRm0+jMc+7L9ARaupNoE X0/ZUnIiOhwMZQkODRyEkRGnTmzlSSOi9NSBHD5U= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Explain asymmetric confirmation condition (#2881) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d346dd919249_73c63f80740cd9682040fa"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2019 13:51:24 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d346dd919249_73c63f80740cd9682040fa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson commented on this pull request. > @@ -629,6 +629,14 @@ MAY use alternate strategies for determining the content of probe packets, including sending new or retransmitted data based on the application's priorities. +If the handshake is complete, but not confirmed (see Section 4.1.1 and Section I will leave that change to you, but I have moved this up to the Handshakes and New Paths section. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2881#discussion_r305619114 ----==_mimepart_5d346dd919249_73c63f80740cd9682040fa Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -629,6 +629,14 @@ MAY use alternate strategies for determining the content of probe packets,
 including sending new or retransmitted data based on the application's
 priorities.
 
+If the handshake is complete, but not confirmed (see Section 4.1.1 and Section

I will leave that change to you, but I have moved this up to the Handshakes and New Paths section.

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One more suggestion: I think line 519 should now say confirmed, not completed?

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Fixes #1860

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Looks good to me, for what it's worth our implementation always bundles a PING in here if there is nothing else ack-eliciting to send.

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This text is imported verbatim from RFC 7540 https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7540#section-9.1.1

I think it's fine as is because the internal linkage to description of status 421 contains some normative text: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7540#section-9.1.2

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -598,8 +598,8 @@ discarded.
 
 When a PTO timer expires, a sender MUST send at least one ack-eliciting packet
 as a probe, unless there is no data available to send.  An endpoint MAY send up
-to two ack-eliciting packets, to avoid an expensive consecutive PTO expiration
-due to a single packet loss.
+to two full sized datagrams containing ack-eliciting packets, to avoid an
+expensive consecutive PTO expiration due to a single lost datagram.

If you send 1, it might be lost. Ideally, fewer is better, so the question of 1 or 2 was left to implementers.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -598,8 +598,8 @@ discarded.
 
 When a PTO timer expires, a sender MUST send at least one ack-eliciting packet
 as a probe, unless there is no data available to send.  An endpoint MAY send up
-to two ack-eliciting packets, to avoid an expensive consecutive PTO expiration
-due to a single packet loss.
+to two full sized datagrams containing ack-eliciting packets, to avoid an
+expensive consecutive PTO expiration due to a single lost datagram.

I mean, there is no limit to coalescing AFAIK, so the limit of two here seems arbitrary, albeit probably very sensible.
https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#rfc.section.12.2

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Makes sense to me. I hadn't considered data that isn't retransmitted after loss, which is a little embarrassing.

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One of the thorny points to this discussion is that promotion of stream errors to connection errors is a feature of RFC 7540 Section 5.4.1

An endpoint can end a connection at any time. In particular, an
endpoint MAY choose to treat a stream error as a connection error.

So deviating away from this behaviour means that the feature set diverges, which may add complexity to implmentations that attempt to support both (or propogate between H2 and H3 #2817).

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From the Discarding Handshake Keys Section:

Most application protocols will send data after the handshake, resulting in acknowledgements that allow both endpoints to discard their handshake keys promptly. Endpoints that do not have reason to send immediately after completing the handshake MAY send ack-eliciting frames, such as PING, which will cause the handshake to be confirmed when they are acknowledged.

We could change this MAY to a SHOULD and it'll resolve this issue.

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I'm sorry, but I'm having trouble following the initial example.

You said that the client sent a 1-RTT packet and it got lost. In this case, it will continue to retransmit it and will eventually get an ACK, at which point the handshake will be confirmed and it will drop the keys and stop retransmitting ClientFinished.

And as David indicates above, if the client is not sending at all, then it can just send ack-eliciting frames.

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We could change this MAY to a SHOULD and it'll resolve this issue.

No, it doesn't. As I described in the initial example, and in #2863 (comment), the client won't retransmit 1-RTT data until the handshake is completed.

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HTTP_NO_ERROR is only defined in the draft for usage in CONNECTION_CLOSE, I'm not sure when it would be used as a stream error (we have more specific error codes to indicate intent when closing a stream).

That's a good point. RFC 7540 uses NO_ERROR for instructing the client to stop sending the request when a response is provided early. In HTTP/3, we have created HTTP_EARLY_RESPONSE. But it might be a good idea to use HTTP_NO_ERROR in HTTP/3 too.

HTTP_GENERAL_PROTOCOL_ERROR is only used as a stream error in the section discussing malformed requests/responses. I'd suggest using a more descriptive error for this case (HTTP_MALFORMED_MESSAGE for example) and treating HTTP_GENERAL_PROTOCOL_ERROR as solely a connection error.

HTTP_GENERAL_PROTOCOL_ERROR is a catch-all error code that can be for any reason. I'd prefer having that usable at stream-level too.

@LPardue

One of the thorny points to this discussion is that promotion of stream errors to connection errors is a feature of RFC 7540 Section 5.4.1

I'd prefer keeping the same design.

I think we need the freedom of promoting stream-level errors to connection errors. For example, when a server detects a suspicious activity by a client at a stream-level, it would make sense to close the connection.

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@marten-seemann well in that case, the source of the problem is the retransmission algorithm, not this. Why does it make sense to not retransmit 1-RTT data when there is an outstanding CFIN?

Just consider the simple case where the client's second flight (CFIN + some data) is lost. When the PTO expires, you should resend all of that.

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As Jana pointed out, this specifies a separate timer, which fits fine with the model that there's one timer per path.

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@nibanks approved this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2880,6 +2880,28 @@ packet.
 expectations about what implementations do with packets that have errors after
 valid frames? -->
 
+
+## Generating Acknowledgements {#generating-acks}
+
+An acknowledgement SHOULD be sent immediately upon receipt of a second
+ack-eliciting packet. QUIC recovery algorithms do not assume the peer sends
+an ACK immediately when receiving a second ack-eliciting packet.
+
+In order to accelerate loss recovery and reduce timeouts, the receiver SHOULD
+send an immediate ACK after it receives an out-of-order packet. It could send

What's the exact definition for out-of-order? If the last packet number received is X, are received packet numbers of X+2 and X-1 both considered out of order?

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@ekr The client could have sent an arbitrary amount of 1-RTT data, so you wouldn't want to retransmit all of this. As discussed on the PR (#2881), this can have some weird interaction with the congestion controller as well.

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SHOULD NOT -> MUST NOT
Suggestion: "New paths have new congestion control contexts, implementations can reset the existing congestion control context."

In keeping with the first resolution, it's a new CC, and whether a new CC is created or the existing one is reset is an implementation decision.

Instead of saying it's the same path, say that the path parameters(RTT and CC state) are likely to be similar.

This is resolved with the resolution to 1, we can decide where the implementation note should live.

  1. (In Section 9.4 of transport)
    This is really "A path can be validated, but not switched to immediately, particularly in the presence of a potential attack. When you switch, you need to use a new(or reset) congestion controller."

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For 5, we need to say a bit more about the fact that the attack is that when a sender receives data on a new path causing it to potentially reset its CC state immediately if it switches immediately.

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----==_mimepart_5d34a76c99ffe_9f53ff392acd9684968ca-- From nobody Sun Jul 21 11:04:33 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94519120165 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2019 11:04:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P6S3WUM38LSZ for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2019 11:04:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 95810120132 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2019 11:04:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2019 11:04:28 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1563732268; bh=5qvZ+/iZi2OoLNCjgRJv2M/+aE4HcCFs111Rl8mlHho=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=10qhInCp8NCrlXRO2KySuw440BJLOI36Oy4t5pil8Phcqrdk5zBcr5ofyz3u8Ql5S IcAHSK07zXQYItqerNIiH834mqycrbTxuOe3fCEbrnPZtTqcJGbHYcAuJT34EwAUpU N7X9Duhu+WyDZjd6VVSK7iO9fo4CbsZycfwCuFVA= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Why is Min RTT kept for the connection lifetime? (#2908) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d34a92c89479_2e803fadaf4cd96043989c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2019 18:04:32 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d34a92c89479_2e803fadaf4cd96043989c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit min_rtt is used to reject implausible SRTT samples due to large max_ack_delays, which we can clarify. It should be over the lifetime of the path, not the connection. We could clarify what it means to reset a context, but assuming a new context is easier to reason about. What if min_rtt decreases or increases? Decreases it should follow, Increases causes QUIC to loosen the sanity check. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2908#issuecomment-513575187 ----==_mimepart_5d34a92c89479_2e803fadaf4cd96043989c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

min_rtt is used to reject implausible SRTT samples due to large max_ack_delays, which we can clarify. It should be over the lifetime of the path, not the connection. We could clarify what it means to reset a context, but assuming a new context is easier to reason about.

What if min_rtt decreases or increases? Decreases it should follow, Increases causes QUIC to loosen the sanity check.

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For 1,2,4:

In keeping with the first resolution, it's a new CC, and whether a new CC is created or the existing one is reset is an implementation decision.

I think this was always the intent -- some implementations don't want to have two CC contexts so they can reset it and start with zero assumptions about the new path. Implementations that are okay with having more than one will make a new one and use that on the new path, switching back to the old one if they use the old path and the information is still relevant (i.e. it's been <1 RTT and you decided the new path wasn't actually better -- pick some threshold I don't have a strong preference).

3:
Yes, it's not necessarily exactly the same path. An endpoint that wants to put in extra effort in determining which paths are equivalent to make a smarter decision can do so while the default behavior is a complete reset every time (after confirming the migration). This also impacts (5) around some of the attacks.

5:
I agree with @janaiyengar we should be a bit more explicit about preventing an off-path attacker from being able to cause continuous resets as you go back and forth between paths, that's a good case where you would want to keep CC state around (if you're being told to swap multiple times per-RTT you've got other issues, too, which are mostly addressed but might need some more text, likely in transport).

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(Editorially I would specify a congestion control context rather than a path)

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Sure, you would, however, want to retransmit some of it

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This is a real thing that happens today with H2 and should be maintained. My question would be, does it makes sense for promotion to maintain the the error code fidelity? I.e. if you are closing connection on a miss-behaving peer, is there benefit from articulating the specific stream error code, or does it work as well to drop this to HTTP_GENERAL_PROTOCOL_ERROR? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2911#issuecomment-513576272 ----==_mimepart_5d34ad1ef0544_780d3f83d0ecd964797470 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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I think we need the freedom of promoting stream-level errors to connection errors. For example, when a server detects a suspicious activity by a client at a stream-level, it would make sense to close the connection.

I agree. This is a real thing that happens today with H2 and should be maintained.

My question would be, does it makes sense for promotion to maintain the the error code fidelity? I.e. if you are closing connection on a miss-behaving peer, is there benefit from articulating the specific stream error code, or does it work as well to drop this to HTTP_GENERAL_PROTOCOL_ERROR?

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HTTP_GENERAL_PROTOCOL_ERROR is a catch-all error code that can be for any reason. I'd prefer having that usable at stream-level too.

PROTOCOL_ERROR sounds to me like something that mandates closing the connection. I do agree with having a catch-all error code for streams as well but I'd just add HTTP_GENERAL_STREAM_ERROR instead of reusing HTTP_GENERAL_PROTOCOl_ERROR. It avoids confusion of whether PROTOCOL_ERROR closed a single stream or the entire connection.

I think we need the freedom of promoting stream-level errors to connection errors. For example, when a server detects a suspicious activity by a client at a stream-level, it would make sense to close the connection.

Why do we need promotion for this? Closing the connection because of suspicious activity at the stream level sounds like a clear use-case for a connection level error such as HTTP_SUSPICIOUS_ACTIVITY (I don't think we should actually add this).

More generically, if an error at the stream level (clearly intended not to close the entire connection since its a stream level error) causes the entire connection to be closed, that should be communicated with a connection level error instead of a stream level error. Many of the current stream level errors don't make any sense at all when used in the context of a connection level error. Instead, if a stream error could possibly mandate closing the entire connection, it should have a corresponding connection level error that more clearly indicates why a stream level error caused the the entire connection to be closed.

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----==_mimepart_5d34adbb7e699_697b3fda89ccd9604839f0-- From nobody Sun Jul 21 11:25:44 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06C34120161 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2019 11:25:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7NGnTvbz6HOx for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2019 11:25:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-22.smtp.github.com (out-22.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.205]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A0657120135 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2019 11:25:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2019 11:25:39 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1563733540; bh=1xtRmnBQ1ylX8xBgOCqQxTjmmavp4vC3prdS5Lx+mww=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=mFxrzOOnySkhfK2kWGDt7Uw+xO49sn+UOO1MjLczfGILr5lCNECYArI0xa12oXCny bOdxcq+6y0bBnU9Uki7Ic6Hq4TbjKHG0332AXq+95+6+z/yjs57LqRz+AMkJS4WNzh 8U60xzRvP+NpQYHVKdJoiGRwzkyaVsIoBRHlCsn4= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Mixture of transport and congestion control functions (#2684) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d34ae23e690b_17873f8cfd0cd9645472c0"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2019 18:25:42 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d34ae23e690b_17873f8cfd0cd9645472c0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The target is to fix this issue with the same PR as #2909 -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2684#issuecomment-513576536 ----==_mimepart_5d34ae23e690b_17873f8cfd0cd9645472c0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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I think what we're missing is that the distinction between connection error and stream "error" is explicitly present in the QUIC transport, by the use of different frames.

It seems we are discarding that information and then trying to back-infer it from an error code. I'd argue that this is the wrong approach because in practice, there is a good chance the remote peer's approach to selecting error codes is different.

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[ci skip] From nobody Sun Jul 21 11:41:22 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52997120127 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2019 11:41:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EsP-f97nFYdx for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2019 11:41:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-12.smtp.github.com (out-12.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 14FEA12008C for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2019 11:41:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2019 11:41:18 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1563734478; bh=XXIbfgq/B1DMFI2P0i4miaQ3HnGIjBxnJ2PaUkB8+RM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Bl0Mk5adkcP9aw5KIuGO1KGdOlWhKTWO5zJjGYcXyk6tZNIlLcFfy9CXBO4i0hdSg JbshaswsTJmuDLx66ZOsI38VvCCb0HkCFpQ+efPMDfcKSHms8gQi1L2gYnAHz0loJY gh21KCVwtkeNXkOkAxXjulSAzqpgLbE7hVWmsv0s= From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clarify resetting congestion control (#2917) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d34b1ce66310_509c3ffa0c0cd960198698"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2019 18:41:20 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d34b1ce66310_509c3ffa0c0cd960198698 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Closes 2685. This doesn't address both editorial clarifications in #2685, but the second one is now getting covered in #2909 You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2917 -- Commit Summary -- * Clarify resetting congestion control -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (2) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2917.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2917.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2917 ----==_mimepart_5d34b1ce66310_509c3ffa0c0cd960198698 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Closes 2685.

This doesn't address both editorial clarifications in #2685, but the second one is now getting covered in #2909

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2917

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  • Clarify resetting congestion control

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Technically, 1RTT packets can be sent on the PTO when there is unacked Handshake data, but you're correct that if there are two MSS or more of Handshake data, the client would repeatedly retransmit that data instead of sending any 1RTT packets as written today.

I think MT's PR is heading in the right direction.

@marten-seemann do you have an alternate suggestion of how to deal with this situation?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2880,6 +2880,28 @@ packet.
 expectations about what implementations do with packets that have errors after
 valid frames? -->
 
+
+## Generating Acknowledgements {#generating-acks}
+
+An acknowledgement SHOULD be sent immediately upon receipt of a second
+ack-eliciting packet. QUIC recovery algorithms do not assume the peer sends
+an ACK immediately when receiving a second ack-eliciting packet.
+
+In order to accelerate loss recovery and reduce timeouts, the receiver SHOULD
+send an immediate ACK after it receives an out-of-order packet. It could send

Yes, both would be considered out of order. I thought we already said to send an immediate ACK when the PN is not 1 larger than the largest processed packet number, but I can't find it.

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----==_mimepart_5d34b965be100_9483f94798cd96027959f-- From nobody Sun Jul 21 12:14:11 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B2441200B9 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2019 12:14:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gshB97jZ3pIU for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2019 12:14:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-22.smtp.github.com (out-22.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.205]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1DD22120094 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2019 12:14:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2019 12:14:07 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1563736447; bh=6668q7pEPFFUpM/WLBQAeBYfqKzzQZ+6SDyWAd/dvrE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=TDurXhxAEwETwLCHBr9hNN0Ksdzf0E0/fnPXgKJfFUTTtsUGTqMIek/Mik+Yqlkbj gVgmRU7vRwNqcI2EqZb9uagLYT1c8qg+bxTjKU7loNSNnL7RBQnflo9VXBh0s/qQ9I JPEXG3zImHdEs1D8m2PVDqDdpr0SCRdT3U5GZbfE= From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] CC state after a change of path? (#2685) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d34b97f30262_14fc3fed79ccd96c6785c4"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2019 19:14:09 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d34b97f30262_14fc3fed79ccd96c6785c4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Re-opening issue. This needs a bit more work. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2685#issuecomment-513579953 ----==_mimepart_5d34b97f30262_14fc3fed79ccd96c6785c4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Re-opening issue. This needs a bit more work.

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Cleans up some text in the transport doc around reseting (or not) CC and RTT values on migration.

Closes #2685

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  • Fix language around CC on migration

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -598,8 +598,8 @@ discarded.
 
 When a PTO timer expires, a sender MUST send at least one ack-eliciting packet
 as a probe, unless there is no data available to send.  An endpoint MAY send up
-to two ack-eliciting packets, to avoid an expensive consecutive PTO expiration
-due to a single packet loss.
+to two full sized datagrams containing ack-eliciting packets, to avoid an
+expensive consecutive PTO expiration due to a single lost datagram.

There's no limit of 2 packets in a datagram here and I don't think there's one elsewhere?

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This change makes it clear that is allowed. * Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Co-Authored-By: MikkelFJ * Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Co-Authored-By: Jana Iyengar * Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Co-Authored-By: Jana Iyengar * Fix a long line From nobody Sun Jul 21 12:31:06 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0497D1200B8 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2019 12:31:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id p8_E6KW9w1sh for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2019 12:31:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 32A1F1200A3 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2019 12:31:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2019 12:31:02 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1563737462; bh=eKQ/0k3tw7pG4MGF6gne1dIOgu5zSfA0EipqJ+iZO8g=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=OW3QMdisvJFiElMlk5jtvhm9TLzFiMBML4XF3EjCwkafPSvH9er6aXxF0Wo6G4pkl qe2T+2MrYf3iM/4EnK2nqaxwL5XHDJT2BgnNi7bFiqqKTG/G7eV0leZxq0J4NYHLzU NIwMEK8WY3cVtjosDxcqD89jIPiiVQPcXb5uNEOA= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Up to two full-sized datagrams, not packets (#2915) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d34bd764a23d_13223f8347acd960512891"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2019 19:31:05 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d34bd764a23d_13223f8347acd960512891 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Merged #2915 into master. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -581,13 +581,13 @@ data.  If no data can be sent, then the PTO alarm MUST NOT be armed until
 data has been received from the client.
 
 Because the server could be blocked until more packets are received, the client
-MUST ensure that the retransmission timer is set if the client does not yet
-have 1-RTT keys.  If the probe timer expires before the client has 1-RTT keys,
-it is possible that the client may not have any crypto data to retransmit.
-However, the client MUST send a new packet, containing only PADDING frames if
-necessary, to allow the server to continue sending data. If Handshake keys
-are available to the client, it MUST send a Handshake packet, and otherwise
-it MUST send an Initial packet in a UDP datagram of at least 1200 bytes.
+MUST ensure that the retransmission timer is set if the client has not received
+an ACK in a Handshake packet or does not yet have 1-RTT keys.  If the probe

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Fixes #2908 You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2919 -- Commit Summary -- * MinRTT for the congestion control context -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md (23) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2919.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2919.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2919 ----==_mimepart_5d34c07e3d0bf_5a963fbd41ccd95c23294b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Also explains what happens to MinRTT if the path RTT changes.

Fixes #2908

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This seems reasonable. The RTT estimate could be quite wrong at this stage in the connection, so an ack-eliciting packet can be used to improve that as well.

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When a PTO timer expires, a sender MUST send at least one ack-eliciting packet as a probe, unless there is no data available to send. An endpoint MAY send up -to two ack-eliciting packets, to avoid an expensive consecutive PTO expiration -due to a single packet loss. +to two full sized datagrams containing ack-eliciting packets, to avoid an +expensive consecutive PTO expiration due to a single lost datagram. > An endpoint MAY send up to two full-sized datagrams containing ack-eliciting packets, I read that as it MAY NOT send more than two, but it MAY send less. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2915#discussion_r305633121 ----==_mimepart_5d34c1c5ee656_164e3fa0c6acd96436529c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@mikkelfj commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -598,8 +598,8 @@ discarded.
 
 When a PTO timer expires, a sender MUST send at least one ack-eliciting packet
 as a probe, unless there is no data available to send.  An endpoint MAY send up
-to two ack-eliciting packets, to avoid an expensive consecutive PTO expiration
-due to a single packet loss.
+to two full sized datagrams containing ack-eliciting packets, to avoid an
+expensive consecutive PTO expiration due to a single lost datagram.

An endpoint MAY send up to two full-sized datagrams containing ack-eliciting packets,

I read that as it MAY NOT send more than two, but it MAY send less.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -598,8 +598,8 @@ discarded.
 
 When a PTO timer expires, a sender MUST send at least one ack-eliciting packet
 as a probe, unless there is no data available to send.  An endpoint MAY send up
-to two ack-eliciting packets, to avoid an expensive consecutive PTO expiration
-due to a single packet loss.
+to two full sized datagrams containing ack-eliciting packets, to avoid an
+expensive consecutive PTO expiration due to a single lost datagram.

Ah, I am confusing UDP datagrams and packets.

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Thanks for your changes Jana, this LGTM.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -581,13 +581,13 @@ data.  If no data can be sent, then the PTO alarm MUST NOT be armed until
 data has been received from the client.
 
 Because the server could be blocked until more packets are received, the client
-MUST ensure that the retransmission timer is set if the client does not yet
-have 1-RTT keys.  If the probe timer expires before the client has 1-RTT keys,
-it is possible that the client may not have any crypto data to retransmit.
-However, the client MUST send a new packet, containing only PADDING frames if
-necessary, to allow the server to continue sending data. If Handshake keys
-are available to the client, it MUST send a Handshake packet, and otherwise
-it MUST send an Initial packet in a UDP datagram of at least 1200 bytes.
+MUST ensure that the retransmission timer is set if the client has not received
+an ACK in a Handshake packet or does not yet have 1-RTT keys.  If the probe

I think this should be 'or'.

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----==_mimepart_5d34c56dafb05_13753f8347acd96027592f-- From nobody Sun Jul 21 13:05:12 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 807AE12001B for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2019 13:05:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZQcZs8En8ccK for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2019 13:05:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EECFD1200B8 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2019 13:05:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2019 13:05:02 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1563739502; bh=3dFWtgewmMSmxDwMmV4ClYqKQ+QuEmLkjNc387y4IVw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=HXlGjf081mtagWt4DLbrBOFQU6AjRoiSXQSXyPKdRSI4Rdyutrc2txJa19uo9oBA+ M+5nFYrjY35JGJFWcbB/q6Nt46HkayZHl5+rZAH7flQbRPIdUxnO9nReDcH8Kd0Ux8 I4zgqPSxHDud3sP8hdTMOxxFwh4ScXv3j6bVtkSU= From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] PTO should always send an ack-eliciting packet (#2912) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d34c56e4496a_69373fb0afccd9643325a5"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2019 20:05:04 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d34c56e4496a_69373fb0afccd9643325a5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Merged #2912 into master. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2912#event-2498220751 ----==_mimepart_5d34c56e4496a_69373fb0afccd9643325a5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Merged #2912 into master.

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You'll need to rebase to get the changes from #2912 in here.

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This looks good to me, module rebasing and working out the conflicts.

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=0D = ----==_mimepart_5d34c601e9b45_75753f91a72cd96852705a-- From nobody Sun Jul 21 13:17:48 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBD53120193 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2019 13:17:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rX59WLAIf8tA for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2019 13:17:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-9.smtp.github.com (out-9.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F34A1200B9 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2019 13:17:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2019 13:17:37 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1563740257; bh=q+EhtQt5psQRey4IbRS3MPHVC2Ywxv7G7Z69ROW6Q+g=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=xuxRUrpRFm64MlP60DpQzXzVbfA81faVdzaq2h6WKenkvlq5M8KQ4v3LQVXWpm1jY 49repTZlu+tAuumK3ETQnf5/cLUQrg+BQ9geiImW9prmpUOjk3uFB7GwqtvKtxy6gz Luk7Qp7567ONyKHKvwh+0Yzc2bh2rBPyXSWowdew= From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] MinRTT for the congestion control context (#2919) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d34c861726f7_3aa53fc570ccd95c89813e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2019 20:17:48 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d34c861726f7_3aa53fc570ccd95c89813e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit janaiyengar commented on this pull request. > @@ -371,16 +371,23 @@ retain sufficient history is an open research question. ## Estimating min_rtt {#min-rtt} -min_rtt is the minimum RTT observed over the lifetime of the connection. -min_rtt is set to the latest_rtt on the first sample in a connection, and to the -lesser of min_rtt and latest_rtt on subsequent samples. +min_rtt is the minimum RTT observed for a given congestion control context. min_rtt is only used for loss recovery in this doc. I think it's more appropriate to say RTT estimator context in general. > @@ -371,16 +371,23 @@ retain sufficient history is an open research question. ## Estimating min_rtt {#min-rtt} -min_rtt is the minimum RTT observed over the lifetime of the connection. -min_rtt is set to the latest_rtt on the first sample in a connection, and to the -lesser of min_rtt and latest_rtt on subsequent samples. +min_rtt is the minimum RTT observed for a given congestion control context. +min_rtt is set to the latest_rtt on the first RTT sample, and to the lesser +of min_rtt and latest_rtt on subsequent samples. min_rtt is used to reject +implausible RTT samples, but is not used directly in congestion control or I would drop the rest of the text after "samples" and perhaps add "which would otherwise cause the smoothed_rtt estimate to be incorrectly low.". I understand what you're trying to say, but I think saying that it is not used directly in loss recovery makes it a bit confusing I think. It is used, and I think people will have different reads on what's indirect and what's > An endpoint uses only locally observed times in computing the min_rtt and does not adjust for host delays reported by the peer ({{host-delay}}). Doing so allows the endpoint to set a lower bound for the smoothed_rtt based entirely on what it observes (see {{smoothed-rtt}}), and limits potential underestimation due to erroneously-reported delays by the peer. +The RTT for the path may change over time. If the real path RTT decreases, ```suggestion The RTT for a path may change over time. If a path's actual RTT decreases, ``` > An endpoint uses only locally observed times in computing the min_rtt and does not adjust for host delays reported by the peer ({{host-delay}}). Doing so allows the endpoint to set a lower bound for the smoothed_rtt based entirely on what it observes (see {{smoothed-rtt}}), and limits potential underestimation due to erroneously-reported delays by the peer. +The RTT for the path may change over time. If the real path RTT decreases, +it should be observed quickly. If the real path RTT increases, it will not ```suggestion the min_rtt will adapt immediately on the first low sample. If the path's actual RTT increases, ``` > An endpoint uses only locally observed times in computing the min_rtt and does not adjust for host delays reported by the peer ({{host-delay}}). Doing so allows the endpoint to set a lower bound for the smoothed_rtt based entirely on what it observes (see {{smoothed-rtt}}), and limits potential underestimation due to erroneously-reported delays by the peer. +The RTT for the path may change over time. If the real path RTT decreases, +it should be observed quickly. If the real path RTT increases, it will not +be observed, but the impact is limited to allowing some RTT samples that are ```suggestion the min_rtt will not adapt to it, potentially causing future RTT samples that are ``` > @@ -410,11 +417,11 @@ endpoint: min_rtt. This limits the underestimation that a misreporting peer can cause to the smoothed_rtt. -On the first RTT sample in a connection, the smoothed_rtt is set to the -latest_rtt. +On the first RTT sample in a congestion control context, the smoothed_rtt is RTT context > smoothed_rtt and rttvar are computed as follows, similar to {{?RFC6298}}. On -the first RTT sample in a connection: +the first RTT sample in a congestion control context: RTT context -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -804,17 +803,14 @@ modifying the contents of packets from future versions.
 The HKDF-Expand-Label function defined in TLS 1.3 MUST be used for Initial
 packets even where the TLS versions offered do not include TLS 1.3.
 
+The secrets used for protecting Initial packets do not change during the
+connection, even after receiving a Retry.  A server that sends a Retry
+therefore needs to either remember Initial protection keys or save them

Shouldn't this just say that the server already needs to have access to the original destination CID because of the original_connection_id transport parameter? I don't think the server needs to remember/encode initial keys on top of that

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The TPs might carry a stateless reset token, which must be encrypted in transit. Section 7 lists some requirements for the handshake, including authentication of the TPs, yet does not include any mention of encrypting them from server to client. Should it?

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This change makes it clear that is allowed. * Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Co-Authored-By: MikkelFJ * Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Co-Authored-By: Jana Iyengar * Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Co-Authored-By: Jana Iyengar * Fix a long line Commit: 114b20f4b2accf4f76a242a34d5f620cd48f4e3d https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/114b20f4b2accf4f76a242a34d5f620cd48f4e3d Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2019-07-21 (Sun, 21 Jul 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Add rationale for why ack-eliciting Commit: 0d684171abcf439c7fc5fa6ff95433826682a108 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0d684171abcf439c7fc5fa6ff95433826682a108 Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2019-07-21 (Sun, 21 Jul 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #2912 from quicwg/ianswett-pto-ack-eliciting PTO should always send an ack-eliciting packet Commit: 08ea0f58a7562c1c091e7678e20654bb283cbc07 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/08ea0f58a7562c1c091e7678e20654bb283cbc07 Author: ianswett Date: 2019-07-21 (Sun, 21 Jul 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge branch 'master' into ianswett-fix-loss-detection Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/f079e9dc3664...08ea0f58a756 From nobody Sun Jul 21 14:40:34 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 579981200D6 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2019 14:40:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yiyIV1iTrDBt for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2019 14:40:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D4158120098 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2019 14:40:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2019 14:40:31 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1563745231; bh=zK8dQSdYU0exe4a/5t3RhkjXbFQPfgZ9mio2ogh+E6Q=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Jhoi+anL4kCS1f+sg6PBZ7m5EYIk891+yUjSdXRSdNVHesM2/w2x98985aug7rrSS 3wY28AQfdDwDX3HzC0iuSA0KEGb+hsYWT1TBNB4S0MQhOHBPExxnWUiCuOQENoKCMR lMeJem76VS+SRRCKn+ghgs32uhykALB4DWh4gS2I= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Push Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Fix Recovery Pseudocode (#2907) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d34dbcf16d51_67933fb7968cd95c45603"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: push X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2019 21:40:33 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d34dbcf16d51_67933fb7968cd95c45603 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @ianswett pushed 1 commit. 08ea0f58a7562c1c091e7678e20654bb283cbc07 Merge branch 'master' into ianswett-fix-loss-detection -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Also, we only use RTT estimator once in this document at the moment. Possibly I should use path for all of these now, against @erickinnear suggestion? Also, path is much shorter than "congestion control context" -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2919#discussion_r305637430 ----==_mimepart_5d34dcc3babbc_38cd3fb6cd6cd96480275 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  following three values: the minimum value observed over the lifetime of the
-connection (min_rtt), an exponentially-weighted moving average (smoothed_rtt),
-and the variance in the observed RTT samples (rttvar).
+congestion control context (min_rtt), an exponentially-weighted moving average

We never define this, but isn't the RTT estimator a subset of the congestion control context? Also, we only use RTT estimator once in this document at the moment.

Possibly I should use path for all of these now, against @erickinnear suggestion? Also, path is much shorter than "congestion control context"

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -410,11 +417,11 @@ endpoint:
   min_rtt.  This limits the underestimation that a misreporting peer can cause
   to the smoothed_rtt.
 
-On the first RTT sample in a connection, the smoothed_rtt is set to the
-latest_rtt.
+On the first RTT sample in a congestion control context, the smoothed_rtt is

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  
 smoothed_rtt and rttvar are computed as follows, similar to {{?RFC6298}}.  On
-the first RTT sample in a connection:
+the first RTT sample in a congestion control context:

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(#2920) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d34e42dc7b1a_23153fc8c60cd9646635dc"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: DavidSchinazi X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2019 22:16:21 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d34e42dc7b1a_23153fc8c60cd9646635dc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This makes sense to me. 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This makes sense to me. The TLS document ensures that the server's transport parameters are encrypted so an editorial PR changing the transport doc to require that should be sufficient.

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -805,8 +805,8 @@ packets even where the TLS versions offered do not include TLS 1.3.
 
 The secrets used for protecting Initial packets do not change during the
 connection, even after receiving a Retry.  A server that sends a Retry
-therefore needs to either remember Initial protection keys or save them
-in the Retry token.
+therefore needs to either remember the original connection ID and Initial
+protection keys or save the original connection ID the Retry token.

typo: connection ID in the Retry token.

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----==_mimepart_5d34e47279cd2_2eaa3fadaf4cd96061583a-- From nobody Sun Jul 21 15:22:46 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A20AA120045 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2019 15:22:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.596 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.596 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id shyE1EIMD-cl for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2019 15:22:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-14.smtp.github.com (out-14.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1264012001E for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2019 15:22:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2019 15:22:42 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1563747762; bh=7lKs9g9vMVAPFUu6UlflTNxe/NZ4/mI+dI48tOP7tQI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ALw7RprhFCdadWR/++eMAKS1M4+vIROaeoqBX35upmTgaWdQ5TiBp2Ho1AZG4IFdm CQV/gS7pFn6cGK3rbjjuwdO0mtXlkjDtxcAcSJ/gZxp7r9c4gNW1goTGSx18wti71a APHLpnZ1oGJeQioBjeWsvO8KxjHLB/nz+NmBL7Sc= From: Eric Kinnear Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] MinRTT for the congestion control context (#2919) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d34e5b2400e7_4fc03fda89ccd9601449951"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: erickinnear X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2019 22:22:45 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d34e5b2400e7_4fc03fda89ccd9601449951 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable erickinnear commented on this pull request.=0D =0D =0D =0D > @@ -410,11 +417,11 @@ endpoint:=0D min_rtt. This limits the underestimation that a misreporting peer can= cause=0D to the smoothed_rtt.=0D =0D -On the first RTT sample in a connection, the smoothed_rtt is set to the=0D= -latest_rtt.=0D +On the first RTT sample in a congestion control context, the smoothed_rt= t is=0D =0D Elsewhere don=E2=80=99t we discuss resetting a congestion control context= ? It seems like that often lines up with a path, but they don=E2=80=99t h= ave to be the same thing. It seems like you=E2=80=99re saying that RTT is= n=E2=80=99t part of congestion control (which sounds totally valid but we= then need some better way to word that)?=0D =0D -- =0D You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.=0D Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub:=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2919#discussion_r305638679= ----==_mimepart_5d34e5b2400e7_4fc03fda89ccd9601449951 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Closes #2920.

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Good catch. Marking as design so that we can consensus call this, but it's arguably editorial.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -371,16 +371,23 @@ retain sufficient history is an open research question.
 
 ## Estimating min_rtt {#min-rtt}
 
-min_rtt is the minimum RTT observed over the lifetime of the connection.
-min_rtt is set to the latest_rtt on the first sample in a connection, and to the
-lesser of min_rtt and latest_rtt on subsequent samples.
+min_rtt is the minimum RTT observed for a given congestion control context.

When you say "congestion control context", why not "path"?

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -371,16 +371,23 @@ retain sufficient history is an open research question.
 
 ## Estimating min_rtt {#min-rtt}
 
-min_rtt is the minimum RTT observed over the lifetime of the connection.
-min_rtt is set to the latest_rtt on the first sample in a connection, and to the
-lesser of min_rtt and latest_rtt on subsequent samples.
+min_rtt is the minimum RTT observed for a given congestion control context.

Good question, I'll talk with Eric and Jana in person about this one and we can figure out some consistent terminology.

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Rather than try to port that across, this recognizes that while prioritization is important, signaling is a problem we haven't solved yet. Closes #many issues. 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[ci skip] From nobody Mon Jul 22 11:40:20 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B87F71202C5 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 11:40:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.595 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.595 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pJ6e8i1nli1z for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 11:40:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5D8D41202EB for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 11:40:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 11:40:07 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1563820807; bh=cCQxXP7rYkHF1hNp0VKrAomQAiOV9Gf4qCJ7t/WavF4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ZJcP9sJLMd1DQALFs+oSHZhsH7HHG6o48xNgLj1istXwp+Z37ZOSaxxEVhG48I2AP myov+FIbiB4q/CbgdXhj5I595X4jOykI8Ig09oX+8xQlebnR6PkD6DWz9hCzjah0kT wXs16VEOv2vYxqb7SdyunHxarCTgeGQAb+baXNDw= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove PRIORITY (#2922) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d3603073afe2_46ba3f91f8ecd96061829d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 18:40:19 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d3603073afe2_46ba3f91f8ecd96061829d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In all the discussions we have had on this, what has become clear is that the complexity of the scheme we built in HTTP/2 wasn't well founded in theory or practice. Rather than try to port that across, this recognizes that while prioritization is important, signaling is a problem we haven't solved yet. Closes #many issues. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2922 -- Commit Summary -- * Remove PRIORITY -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (278) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2922.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2922.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2922 ----==_mimepart_5d3603073afe2_46ba3f91f8ecd96061829d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

In all the discussions we have had on this, what has become clear is
that the complexity of the scheme we built in HTTP/2 wasn't well
founded in theory or practice.

Rather than try to port that across, this recognizes that while
prioritization is important, signaling is a problem we haven't solved
yet.

Closes #many issues.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2922

Commit Summary

  • Remove PRIORITY

File Changes

Patch Links:

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=0D = ----==_mimepart_5d360cee4c4e0_7f143fdeb9ecd95c8836e1-- From nobody Mon Jul 22 12:57:06 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E988C12008C for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 12:57:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eGl-esszi0l5 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 12:57:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E78D612008F for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 12:57:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 12:57:00 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1563825421; bh=PTsyXQiN59R2g66v+/KlQL4yXqC1P0shdCEqBtH8jKU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=xeJ4Cci3XiwsM4zVp3SvKQ7z7MsF6J720vT7PHQMQXmYq/4IAw3pfQc/+cqs5m1TQ /P6bA79pjbIjKY45aSXx5iZFzbrlUSs/snRPa7jCSS6TS6zW7y52eMV5Wscu24jPKX ENctviBAUB4c+2P01pMAt2XSF7ejqnN6BbdPfzj4= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove PRIORITY (#2922) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d36150ceda3f_5f4c3fc75a2cd95c2570ec"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 19:57:04 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d36150ceda3f_5f4c3fc75a2cd95c2570ec Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think that this is the correct thing to do. At the very least, I'd assume that server-driven prioritization using content-type would work well to some extent. Since the early days of H2, we've doing that for browsers that does not use dependency, and it is my understanding that it has been working OK. Though it would be preferable to have the capability of servers and clients providing "hints", especially to distinguish between a render-blocking JavaScript file and a asynchronously-loaded one. > Does this mean it goes away in v1, or restarting from scratch? I'd assume that once the QUIC and HTTP working group agree to drop priorities from H3, it would become the task of the HTTP WG to determine what to do. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2922#issuecomment-513930838 ----==_mimepart_5d36150ceda3f_5f4c3fc75a2cd95c2570ec Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I think that this is the correct thing to do.

At the very least, I'd assume that server-driven prioritization using content-type would work well to some extent. Since the early days of H2, we've doing that for browsers that does not use dependency, and it is my understanding that it has been working OK. Though it would be preferable to have the capability of servers and clients providing "hints", especially to distinguish between a render-blocking JavaScript file and a asynchronously-loaded one.

Does this mean it goes away in v1, or restarting from scratch?

I'd assume that once the QUIC and HTTP working group agree to drop priorities from H3, it would become the task of the HTTP WG to determine what to do.

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@LPardue commented on this pull request.

I think this is in general a positive move. It closes some things out. However, I do wonder if it might make us revisit other things that were previously put to bed. For example, we might want to follow up the discussion about separate unidirectional streams [1], because the space is now smaller.

[1] #2678

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -139,8 +139,8 @@ Alternative Services; this process is described in greater detail in
 Within each stream, the basic unit of HTTP/3 communication is a frame
 ({{frames}}).  Each frame type serves a different purpose.  For example, HEADERS
 and DATA frames form the basis of HTTP requests and responses
-({{request-response}}).  Other frame types like SETTINGS, PRIORITY, and GOAWAY
-are used to manage the overall connection and relationships between streams.
+({{request-response}}).  Other frame types like SETTINGS and GOAWAY are used to
+manage the overall connection and relationships between streams.

A minor contention: IMO SETTINGS or GOAWAY don't exemplify "relationships between streams". In fact, removing tree depencies helps makes request streams way more independent.

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  • e7d2297 Reword per Ian's suggestion

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@erickinnear commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -INVALID_MIGRATION.  Similarly, an endpoint MUST NOT initiate migration if its
-peer supplies a zero-length connection ID as packets without a Destination
-Connection ID cannot be attributed to a connection based on address tuple.
-
-Not all changes of peer address are intentional migrations. The peer could
-experience NAT rebinding: a change of address due to a middlebox, usually a NAT,
-allocating a new outgoing port or even a new outgoing IP address for a flow.  An
-endpoint MUST perform path validation ({{migrate-validate}}) if it detects any
-change to a peer's address, unless it has previously validated that address.
+An endpoint also MUST NOT send packets from a different local address, actively
+initiating migration, if the peer sent the `disable_active_migration` transport
+parameter during the handshake. An endpoint which has sent this transport
+parameter, but detects that a peer has nonetheless migrated to a different
+network MUST either drop the incoming packets on that path without generating a
+stateless reset or proceed with path validation and allow the peer to migrate.
+This helps to prevent third parties in the network causing connections to close

Changed in e7d2297, thanks!

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Please create an umbrella issue for discussion. I would like to go in this direction, but this requires discussion in the wg and in HTTP as well, and I would rather not have that on this PR.

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I'm also a little nervy that the removal of text makes it appear that the first user of streams (HTTP/3) quietly ignores the transport's recommendation in section 2.3

A QUIC implementation SHOULD provide ways in which an application can
indicate the relative priority of streams. When deciding which
streams to dedicate resources to, the implementation SHOULD use the
information provided by the application.

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So, I understand that min_RTT is maintained per path as the minimum RTT.

I foresee paths that persist for long periods and where the set of network devices forming the can path change, and hence the min_RTT can be "ridiculously" small concerned to the actual value had it been measured recently. I don't much like that min_RTT is never raised.

The solution could be simple. Re-initialise min_RTT from the RTT sample periodically. How often to reset is not critical, but needs to be reasonably often - I suggest every 600 secs. (I'd be OK with other numbers, this is the default path state timeout in RFC1981).

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----==_mimepart_5d36230985bd6_1b5a3feee22cd95c6036be-- From nobody Mon Jul 22 14:12:41 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D1471200B9 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 14:12:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.596 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.596 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mKZ8OaH9BcXB for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 14:12:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A1A1D12008C for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 14:12:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 14:12:37 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1563829957; bh=myhdECax3UX0eTLS9VQikVFVAGFxL0H+yYhi3WBRwes=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=poKK/nC2oZjjfTTDXX1Ar+bOEWuCkC1cQta1nCbsa9JJuqSkUo65lsM+xtY91Fk3b 2emPSv3axcsen+vFkI3swrgzP+UWbnG/G+UuBctxu7OLwM8cNUhiAJlZl+PK9BIlXX P3g6LEip45wpNsYTGGyAKeKw4uzqizR9Zw586Pes= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove PRIORITY (#2922) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d3626c577cb3_30583f8cfe4cd964677252"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 21:12:40 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d3626c577cb3_30583f8cfe4cd964677252 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson commented on this pull request. > @@ -139,8 +139,8 @@ Alternative Services; this process is described in greater detail in Within each stream, the basic unit of HTTP/3 communication is a frame ({{frames}}). Each frame type serves a different purpose. For example, HEADERS and DATA frames form the basis of HTTP requests and responses -({{request-response}}). Other frame types like SETTINGS, PRIORITY, and GOAWAY -are used to manage the overall connection and relationships between streams. +({{request-response}}). Other frame types like SETTINGS and GOAWAY are used to +manage the overall connection and relationships between streams. Do you think that I should just strike that sentence? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2922#discussion_r306035077 ----==_mimepart_5d3626c577cb3_30583f8cfe4cd964677252 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -139,8 +139,8 @@ Alternative Services; this process is described in greater detail in
 Within each stream, the basic unit of HTTP/3 communication is a frame
 ({{frames}}).  Each frame type serves a different purpose.  For example, HEADERS
 and DATA frames form the basis of HTTP requests and responses
-({{request-response}}).  Other frame types like SETTINGS, PRIORITY, and GOAWAY
-are used to manage the overall connection and relationships between streams.
+({{request-response}}).  Other frame types like SETTINGS and GOAWAY are used to
+manage the overall connection and relationships between streams.

Do you think that I should just strike that sentence?

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I'm also a little nervy that the removal of text makes it appear that the first user of streams (HTTP/3) quietly ignores the transport's recommendation in section 2.3

That is an endpoint to API thing - it just says an H/3 impl. should be able to prioritize streams server side, e.g. from some configuration. It doesn't say two endpoints should negotiate this.

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Fair point. I think the transport text is actually pretty weak in articulating what it is asking for in terms of stream prioritization. For example, it mentions exchanging information and then jumps to local-API concerns

QUIC does not provide a mechanism for exchanging prioritization
information. Instead, it relies on receiving priority information
from the application that uses QUIC.

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I understand the appeal of this proposal, but I don't agree that simply cutting priorities without replacing them with something else is the right way forward.

I don't see how this PR actually solves anything... it will allow us to ship HTTP/3 sure, but it will be (even more) difficult to use correctly in practice. This puts the burden of figuring out prioritization fully on the servers, and we've seen how well that will go in practice with H2.

I would also like to see some more detailed explanation on the statement in the httpbis session just now (which was a bit more strongly worded than the original post in this thread):

prioritization is important but we don't need signaling for prioritization

I'm not sure I follow this... Are we suddenly claiming that the server does not need client-side information anymore, which is the opposite of the reasoning behind H2's setup? Do you feel you can do good server-side prioritization without client-side signaling? What would that look like? Combining content-type with user-agent?

In essence, I feel that if we remove tree-based priorities, we must endorse another solution (e.g., patrick meenan's setup, kazuho's http-header based solution) and standardize that alongside H3. I fear not doing this will lead to a mess that will be difficult to recover from (i.e., if we standardize the signaling part later on, it will be difficult to find enough uptake, which was one of the main goals on Ian's slides).

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----==_mimepart_5d3633d7a072_76153fdd09ccd9601239160-- From nobody Mon Jul 22 15:45:48 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38B821200BA for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 15:45:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.596 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.596 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0nfYDlkaFHGy for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 15:45:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 565AA1200B9 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 15:45:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 15:45:43 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1563835543; bh=gdIGqL1oCkLyVf9KuAu7cmD3ALgJiIDlmpUKwiTIC9o=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=GRSMRnVxqVkUDUBr8+sl+lVxMUuZnudPp2xhJ85NStGwd7qqZsu/OrQB1XzsgjuHP AtvOE2k3Mlsc+04Vg6NYbJWp0/CJ5NA2L5kqUs3YY1CpMrV4Hiptk8F4V7kMNodwQM FrH7CvDHKo/HovCtP7e8ewz2QUZqlZddaR//ruJQ= From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove PRIORITY (#2922) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d363c9772df0_442f3f89d2ecd95c10486c9"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 22:45:47 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d363c9772df0_442f3f89d2ecd95c10486c9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LPardue commented on this pull request. > @@ -139,8 +139,8 @@ Alternative Services; this process is described in greater detail in Within each stream, the basic unit of HTTP/3 communication is a frame ({{frames}}). Each frame type serves a different purpose. For example, HEADERS and DATA frames form the basis of HTTP requests and responses -({{request-response}}). Other frame types like SETTINGS, PRIORITY, and GOAWAY -are used to manage the overall connection and relationships between streams. +({{request-response}}). Other frame types like SETTINGS and GOAWAY are used to +manage the overall connection and relationships between streams. ```suggestion manage the overall connection. ``` yes, or do this. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2922#discussion_r306064042 ----==_mimepart_5d363c9772df0_442f3f89d2ecd95c10486c9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Do you feel you can do good server-side prioritization without client-side signaling? What would that look like? Combining content-type with user-agent?

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[ci skip] From nobody Mon Jul 22 16:06:44 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C814E120045 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 16:06:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3U2Pqu_u5tcP for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 16:06:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 20172120048 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 16:06:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 16:06:38 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1563836798; bh=vExK0SM5oS7VumYfxrNJWL4Byb4vmzKG3H4AVJS+dho=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Y3I3xanBshI/Lgtk3iIRRoDdihIgtev0zHFueq73twMIrMlSI/Dwl4iohjlHTGJuo FU3eBKZCJ8BwElOQkpLUoSmbTLqQCuN3wdDx8tb6EDoWm7Pbdp1dSRavXwO3qKHraK 9/LwYiiPI7kCMbo7J0yyC9kHhtCKvc29DOkYSzss= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove PRIORITY (#2922) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d36417edc63b_33403fb0efccd960110561c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 23:06:42 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d36417edc63b_33403fb0efccd960110561c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @rmarx > In essence, I feel that if we remove tree-based priorities, we **must endorse another solution** (e.g., patrick meenan's setup, kazuho's http-header based solution) and **standardize that alongside H3**. I also think we should have a prioritization scheme before or when we deploy H3 in the wild, but process-wise, I think we should separate the discussion so as to minimize the chance of QUIC standardization process getting delayed, and because server-driven prioritization can work as a backup strategy. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2922#issuecomment-513987999 ----==_mimepart_5d36417edc63b_33403fb0efccd960110561c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In essence, I feel that if we remove tree-based priorities, we must endorse another solution (e.g., patrick meenan's setup, kazuho's http-header based solution) and standardize that alongside H3.

I also think we should have a prioritization scheme before or when we deploy H3 in the wild, but process-wise, I think we should separate the discussion so as to minimize the chance of QUIC standardization process getting delayed, and because server-driven prioritization can work as a backup strategy.

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devli's advocate H3's inherent prioritization scheme can use request generation order (stream ID), a server uses this to either FIFO or round-robin. This is NOT optimal but is it disastrous enough that we absolutely should not be shipped that way?

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What do people think about allowing the server to use a zero-length connection ID only if the client chose to use a zero-length connection ID?

By selecting a zero-length connection ID, the client is indicating it will not reuse the port. So the server can rely on just the source ip and port to identify the connection.

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That seems better than forbidding it outright, at least.

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That's a long thread, but I believe I was pointing out this issue for at least a year now. Actually, we had "long headers have client's CID" for a while and then it changed.

I can see two real options ("identify that a CID is server's just by looking at it" I do not consider an option):

  1. Make it explicit whose CID it is, for example by mandating that long header packets have client CID. Then have LB keep "ClientCID -> backend" mapping for the duration of the handshake.

  2. Keep it confusing whose CID is in a long header packet. Then have LB keep "4-tuple -> backend" mapping for the duration of the handshake. The implication is that no two concurrent handshakes are allowed on a single 4-tuple -- the statement that WG agreed to in NY in response to exactly this issue.

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I think PR is fine, right I would had added an explicit explanation of when a server may consider sending thing TP (other paths are likely to either not work or be very inefficient) and what a client that needs to migrate to a new path should do (recheck DNS from the new path and reconnect).

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Can we please have this discussion on the issue #2924, and not on this PR?

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This adds an appendix for a QUIC threat model, filling in only the migration section (for #2143, some of the rest of the threat model will come in #2387).

Some wordsmithing can be applied here, and we may want additional issues to fill out detailed descriptions of some of the worst attacks and outline heuristics that might help, but for now I'm focusing this purely on documenting what's possible/not possible for an attacker to do today.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2925

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(#2143) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d36964c1820b_4def3fdbf06cd96c65535"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: erickinnear X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 05:08:31 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d36964c1820b_4def3fdbf06cd96c65535 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The PR (so far) establishes the following definitions and guarantees:=0D =0D ### On-Path Attacker=0D An on-path attacker can:=0D - Inspect packets=0D - Modify unencrypted packet headers=0D - Inject new packets=0D - Delay packets=0D - Drop packets=0D =0D An on-path attacker cannot:=0D - Modify encrypted packet payloads=0D =0D ### Off-Path Attacker=0D An off-path attacker can:=0D - Inspect packets=0D - Inject new packets=0D =0D An off-path attacker cannot:=0D - Modify any part of a packet=0D - Delay packets=0D - Drop packets=0D =0D ### Limited Off-Path Attacker=0D A limited on-path attacker can:=0D - Inspect packets=0D - Inject new packets=0D - Modify unencrypted packet headers=0D =0D A limited on-path attacker cannot:=0D - Delay packets beyond the original packet duration=0D - Drop packets=0D - Modify encrypted packet payloads=0D =0D ## Guarantees=0D ### On-Path Attacker=0D 1. An on-path attacker can interrupt a QUIC connection, causing it to fai= l if it cannot migrate to a new path that does not contain the attacker. = This can be achieved by dropping all packets, modifying them so that they= fail to decrypt, or other methods.=0D 2. An on-path attacker can prevent migration to a new path for which the = attacker is also on-path by causing path validation to fail on the new pa= th.=0D 3. An on-path attacker cannot prevent a client from migrating to a path f= or which the attacker is not on-path.=0D 4. An on-path attacker can reduce the throughput of a connection by delay= ing packets or dropping them.=0D =0D ### Off-Path Attacker=0D 1. An off-path attacker can race packets and attempt to become a =E2=80=9C= limited=E2=80=9D on-path attacker.=0D 2. An off-path attacker can cause path validation to succeed for forwarde= d packets with the source address listed as the off-path attacker as long= as it can provide improved connectivity between the client and the serve= r.=0D 3. An off-path attacker cannot cause a connection to close.=0D 4. An off-path attacker cannot cause migration to a new path to fail if i= t cannot observe the new path.=0D 5. An off-path attacker can become a limited on-path attacker during migr= ation to a new path for which it is also an off-path attacker.=0D 6. An off-path attacker can become a limited on-path attacker by affectin= g shared NAT state such that it sends packets to the server from the same= IP address and port that the client originally used.=0D =0D ### Limited Off-Path Attacker=0D 1. A limited on-path attacker cannot cause an active connection to close.= =0D 2. A limited on-path attacker cannot cause an idle connection to close if= the client is first to resume activity.=0D 3. A limited on-path attacker can cause an idle connection to be deemed l= ost if the server is the first to resume activity.=0D =0D There's more descriptive text in the PR, as well, covering in a bit more = detail our expectations about capabilities of the attackers, pathological= ly worst-case behaviors they may engage in, etc.=0D =0D -- =0D You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.=0D Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub:=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2143#issuecomment-514055926= ----==_mimepart_5d36964c1820b_4def3fdbf06cd96c65535 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The PR (so far) establishes the following definitions and guarantees:<= /p>=0D

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An on-path attacker can:

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  • Inspect packets
    • =0D
  • Modify unencrypted packet headers
    • =0D
  • Inject new packets
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  • Delay packets
    • =0D
  • Drop packets
    • =0D
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An on-path attacker cannot:

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  • Modify encrypted packet payloads
    • =0D
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Off-Path Attacker

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An off-path attacker can:

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    =0D
  • Inspect packets
    • =0D
  • Inject new packets
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An off-path attacker cannot:

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  • Modify any part of a packet
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  • Delay packets
    • =0D
  • Drop packets
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Limited Off-Path Attacker

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A limited on-path attacker can:

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  • Inspect packets
    • =0D
  • Inject new packets
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  • Modify unencrypted packet headers
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A limited on-path attacker cannot:

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  • Delay packets beyond the original packet duration
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  • Drop packets
    • =0D
  • Modify encrypted packet payloads
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Guarantees

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On-Path Attacker

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  1. An on-path attacker can interrupt a QUIC connection, causing it to fa= il if it cannot migrate to a new path that does not contain the attacker.= This can be achieved by dropping all packets, modifying them so that the= y fail to decrypt, or other methods.
    2. =0D
  2. An on-path attacker can prevent migration to a new path for which the= attacker is also on-path by causing path validation to fail on the new p= ath.
    3. =0D
  3. An on-path attacker cannot prevent a client from migrating to a path = for which the attacker is not on-path.
    4. =0D
  4. An on-path attacker can reduce the throughput of a connection by dela= ying packets or dropping them.
    5. =0D
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Off-Path Attacker

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  1. An off-path attacker can race packets and attempt to become a =E2=80=9C= limited=E2=80=9D on-path attacker.
    2. =0D
  2. An off-path attacker can cause path validation to succeed for forward= ed packets with the source address listed as the off-path attacker as lon= g as it can provide improved connectivity between the client and the serv= er.
    3. =0D
  3. An off-path attacker cannot cause a connection to close.
    4. =0D
  4. An off-path attacker cannot cause migration to a new path to fail if = it cannot observe the new path.
    5. =0D
  5. An off-path attacker can become a limited on-path attacker during mig= ration to a new path for which it is also an off-path attacker.
    6. =0D
  6. An off-path attacker can become a limited on-path attacker by affecti= ng shared NAT state such that it sends packets to the server from the sam= e IP address and port that the client originally used.
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  1. A limited on-path attacker cannot cause an active connection to close= .
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  2. A limited on-path attacker cannot cause an idle connection to close i= f the client is first to resume activity.
    3. =0D
  3. A limited on-path attacker can cause an idle connection to be deemed = lost if the server is the first to resume activity.
    4. =0D
=0D

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An attempt to summarise some of my points stated on the PR:

Prioritisation of contending data egressing from a QUIC endpoint is an important property. In HTTP/3, the most applicable use case is concurrent response data.

Considering how well this property is achieved, H2's prioritisation scheme - frame-based tree building requiring chatty exchanges of signals - in practice offers little demonstrable advantage over its anithesis - static absolute priorities. Worse still the challenges of realizing the flexibility of the dependency tree has led to static priority structures that are built the same way every time. One could argue that the success criteria for H2's prioritisation is abysmal because it has been shown that doing nothing is better than doing something*.

Research has shown that prioritisation is maximally effective when adapted to the needs of the application instance (aka specific web page). However, experience has shown that using frame-based tree building to do this is unachievable across a meaningful population of HTTP implementations within the lifetime of a protocol generation. Therefore, it is undesirable to port the same system to the next generation unless it is expected that the present issues can be fixed or corrected. No evidence of that has been presented.

Removing frame-based tree building does not remove all prioritisation signals. It reduces the amplitude of the signal but the waveform is still there is the form of request generation order and resource type. Enhancing this signal with deployment experience is the next step, which may or may not need to happen immediately and may or may not result in a single answer.

  • admittadly in some, not all, cases.

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You view the removal of client-side signaling as just lowering the amplit= ude of the waveform. I view it more as taking too few samples to still sa= tisfy the Nyquist theorem. In other words: we are indeed still able to re= construct _something_ from the signals server-side, but the result doesn'= t (necessarily) look like the original anymore. This loss of information = might be acceptable in some/most cases (important: acceptable, not optima= l), but can be detrimental in an (important) subset of setups. = I am mainly worried about the impact on more advanced recent and proposed= features, such as preload/prefetch, async/defer and priority hints. Thes= e features were explicitly added to improve (load) performance and they a= re difficult to adhere to without client-side scheduling. I predict that = removing prioritization from H3 without a fallback will lead to performan= ce-minded people having to provide 2 different versions of their sites, 1= for H2 and 1 for H3. For example, the H2 version can have async/defer/pr= eloads mentioned in the of the HTML, the H3 version without priori= ties probably shouldn't. = To also address your last "devil's advocate" from the other thread (https= ://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2922#issuecomment-513989715): yes, = FIFO willl work and won't be super-detrimental in most cases. However, it= 's been stated several times before that for H3 (and QUIC) to be successf= ul and find adopters, it needs to have demonstrably better performance th= an H2/TCP. You will not get that from a simple FIFO and also not from mor= e complex server-side-only heuristics based on user-agent + content-type = (your "low amplitude" signal). If you want H3 to outperform (best-in-clas= s) H2, I feel we need **more** signals, not less. And yes, much of H3's p= erf benefits will come from QUIC and 0-RTT etc. but even the Google paper= quotes just 8% (at best) and those benefits are not limited to QUIC (e.g= ., TCP fast open, TLS 1.3 early data). The current discourse seems to be = you agree that the performance would be worse than for H2, but that that'= s not an issue. I have a hard time understanding that point of view. = In summary, I do not feel that server-side-**only** prioritization is a w= orkable fallback solution (https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/292= 2#issuecomment-513987999) (except maybe for implementations that were bro= ken to start with... https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2922#issu= ecomment-513983658) and while sticking our heads in the sand on this migh= t allow us to "ship" QUIC and H3 "on schedule", I doubt the value of that= in the long run. I'm fine with removing H2's priority system, but shippi= ng H3 without a decent replacement is [madness](https://resize.rbl.ms/sim= age/https%3A%2F%2Fassets.rbl.ms%2F17438671%2F980x.gif/980%2C880/ILf9gZME9= keiTx7T/img.gif). = -- = You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2924#issuecomment-514144677= ----==_mimepart_5d36dc059df66_64bd3fb1e4ecd968149597 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I really like your signal/waveform analogy Lucas, so I'll try to use i= t to make my point as well.

You view the removal of client-side signaling as just lowering the amp= litude of the waveform. I view it more as taking too few samples to still= satisfy the Nyquist theorem. In other words: we are indeed still able to= reconstruct something from the signals server-side, but the res= ult doesn't (necessarily) look like the original anymore. This loss of in= formation might be acceptable in some/most cases (important: acceptable, = not optimal), but can be detrimental in an (important) subset of setups.<= /p>

I am mainly worried about the impact on more advanced recent and propo= sed features, such as preload/prefetch, async/defer and priority hints. T= hese features were explicitly added to improve (load) performance and the= y are difficult to adhere to without client-side scheduling. I predict th= at removing prioritization from H3 without a fallback will lead to perfor= mance-minded people having to provide 2 different versions of their sites= , 1 for H2 and 1 for H3. For example, the H2 version can have async/defer= /preloads mentioned in the of the HTML, the H3 version without prioritie= s probably shouldn't.

To also address your last "devil's advocate" from the other thread (#2922 (comment)): yes, FIFO willl work and won't be sup= er-detrimental in most cases. However, it's been stated several times bef= ore that for H3 (and QUIC) to be successful and find adopters, it needs t= o have demonstrably better performance than H2/TCP. You will not get that= from a simple FIFO and also not from more complex server-side-only heuri= stics based on user-agent + content-type (your "low amplitude" signal). I= f you want H3 to outperform (best-in-class) H2, I feel we need mo= re signals, not less. And yes, much of H3's perf benefits will c= ome from QUIC and 0-RTT etc. but even the Google paper quotes just 8% (at= best) and those benefits are not limited to QUIC (e.g., TCP fast open, T= LS 1.3 early data). The current discourse seems to be you agree that the = performance would be worse than for H2, but that that's not an issue. I h= ave a hard time understanding that point of view.

In summary, I do not feel that server-side-only prior= itization is a workable fallback solution (#2922 (comment= )) (except maybe for implementations that were broken to start with..= . #2922 (comment)) and while sticking our heads in th= e sand on this might allow us to "ship" QUIC and H3 "on schedule", I doub= t the value of that in the long run. I'm fine with removing H2's priority= system, but shipping H3 without a decent replacement is madness.

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A client MUST NOT include an original connection ID, a stateless reset token, or a preferred address. A server MUST treat receipt of any of these transport parameters as a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR.

It seems the term is "initial connection ID" not "original connection ID", at least I can't find it defined anywhere in transport.

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I think there needs to be a distinction between observing off-path attackers and blind off-path attackers. A blind attacker can inject packets and for example try to force close a connection even if the traffic flow is not visible. Such an attacker is probably the most common.

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@nibanks commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +properties as an aid to implementors and to help guide protocol analysis.
+
+We cover properties of the handshake, general transport, and migration
+separately.
+
+## Handshake {#handshake-properties}
+
+TBD.
+
+## Short Headers {#short-headers-properties}
+
+TBD.
+
+## Connection Migration {#migration-properties}
+
+Connection Migration ({{migration}}) provides endpoints with the ability to

I don't think this intro paragraph is really necessary.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -5753,13 +5753,184 @@ DecodePacketNumber(largest_pn, truncated_pn, pn_nbits):
    return candidate_pn
 ~~~
 
+# Overview of Security Properties {#security-properties}
+
+A complete security analysis of QUIC is outside the scope of this document.  In
+this appendix, we provide an informal description of the desired security
+properties as an aid to implementors and to help guide protocol analysis.
+
+We cover properties of the handshake, general transport, and migration
+separately.
+
+## Handshake {#handshake-properties}

Maybe a 0-RTT section as well?

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@erickinnear commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -5753,13 +5753,184 @@ DecodePacketNumber(largest_pn, truncated_pn, pn_nbits):
    return candidate_pn
 ~~~
 
+# Overview of Security Properties {#security-properties}
+
+A complete security analysis of QUIC is outside the scope of this document.  In
+this appendix, we provide an informal description of the desired security
+properties as an aid to implementors and to help guide protocol analysis.
+
+We cover properties of the handshake, general transport, and migration
+separately.
+
+## Handshake {#handshake-properties}

Makes sense, good thinking!
Probably others that might be interesting, too, not sure if it's worth adding a bunch of TBD sections, but definitely should have an issue covering writing up the 0-RTT section.

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I created a PR that moves the text and removes text that is incorrect or misleading. It still needs some editorial work, but I believe @martinthomson prefers a simple move first and then we can polish it up in a different PR?

Most importantly, is there anything that I removed that should stay in Recovery? Nothing stuck out to me.

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@igorlord That doesn't work. As I client we use zero-length connection IDs and migration. The server cannot use our address and port as that would break connection migration and NAT rebinding.

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Fixes #2869 You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2927 -- Commit Summary -- * Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (21) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2927.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2927.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2927 ----==_mimepart_5d370c6da3435_15e63fdb10ecd9684470f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Allows smaller stateless resets to be sent(as small as 21 bytes) and advises endpoints that want to ensure a stateless reset is not detectable send a larger packet if their chosen CIDs are more than 2 bytes.

Fixes #2869

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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Jul 23 06:36:24 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DED87120043 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 06:36:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.596 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.596 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8qCS7v6cLGfD for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 06:36:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E2B38120033 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 06:36:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 06:36:19 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1563888979; bh=V7DwapvONE+6qf5muZT4fq1JERy9I/826BvizeGf29w=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ewnFRRZ2SkJzfZM6vXXaYT/8uC4R7j6Xw3wANRfIdPRsqAgBdPXGu2KB/KTqc9kZ6 D0yDWkgfivoG8HC/Rk1HRxMytwtwGDF9rljWT2tuzXW5AE4OnRXfvKkjQsKiB4yIxt /ttKgUP5kXJUagdedaJfCmN3grbK7JieUX1WQjrw= From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Allow Smaller Stateless Resets (#2927) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d370d53cb8ff_628e3fee79ecd96435015"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 13:36:23 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d370d53cb8ff_628e3fee79ecd96435015 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nibanks commented on this pull request. > packet protection AEAD. More unpredictable bytes might be necessary if the endpoint could have negotiated a packet protection scheme with a larger minimum AEAD expansion. An endpoint SHOULD NOT send a stateless reset that is significantly larger than the packet it receives. Endpoints MUST discard packets that are too small to be valid QUIC packets. With the set of AEAD functions defined in {{QUIC-TLS}}, -packets that are smaller than 21 bytes are never valid. +packets that are smaller than 21 bytes are never valid. When a packet is b ```suggestion packets that are smaller than 21 bytes are never valid. ``` This looks like it was unintentional? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2927#pullrequestreview-265411582 ----==_mimepart_5d370d53cb8ff_628e3fee79ecd96435015 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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The last 16 bytes of the datagram contain a Stateless Reset Token. To entities other than its intended recipient, a stateless reset will appear -to be a packet with a short header. For the packet to appear as valid, the -Unpredictable Bits field needs to include at least 198 bits of data (or 25 -bytes, less the two fixed bits). This is intended to allow for a Destination -Connection ID of the maximum length permitted, with a minimal packet number, and -payload. The Stateless Reset Token corresponds to the minimum expansion of the +to be a packet with a short header. For the stateless reset to appear as a +valid QUIC packet and be smaller than the received packet, the Unpredictable +Bits field needs to include at least 46 bits of data (or 6 bytes, less the +two fixed bits), because packets that are smaller than 21 bytes are never +valid. To ensure the stateless reset packet is not smaller than other +packets received on the connection, the an endpoint SHOULD also ensure the typo: the an > @@ -2389,19 +2389,26 @@ of bytes following it that are set to unpredictable values. The last 16 bytes of the datagram contain a Stateless Reset Token. To entities other than its intended recipient, a stateless reset will appear -to be a packet with a short header. For the packet to appear as valid, the -Unpredictable Bits field needs to include at least 198 bits of data (or 25 -bytes, less the two fixed bits). This is intended to allow for a Destination -Connection ID of the maximum length permitted, with a minimal packet number, and -payload. The Stateless Reset Token corresponds to the minimum expansion of the +to be a packet with a short header. For the stateless reset to appear as a +valid QUIC packet and be smaller than the received packet, the Unpredictable +Bits field needs to include at least 46 bits of data (or 6 bytes, less the +two fixed bits), because packets that are smaller than 21 bytes are never +valid. To ensure the stateless reset packet is not smaller than other +packets received on the connection, the an endpoint SHOULD also ensure the +total packet length is at least the minimum chosen CID length + 19 bytes. +19 bytes allows for 1 type byte, 1 data byte, the 16 byte authentication The invariant we have is `payload_length + packet_number_length >= 4` to which you add type byte (1) and auth tag (16) to get 1 + 4 + 16 = 21. I think we want 22 + chosen CID length > packet protection AEAD. More unpredictable bytes might be necessary if the endpoint could have negotiated a packet protection scheme with a larger minimum AEAD expansion. An endpoint SHOULD NOT send a stateless reset that is significantly larger than the packet it receives. Endpoints MUST discard packets that are too small to be valid QUIC packets. With the set of AEAD functions defined in {{QUIC-TLS}}, -packets that are smaller than 21 bytes are never valid. +packets that are smaller than 21 bytes are never valid. When a packet is b was this intentional? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2927#pullrequestreview-265410787 ----==_mimepart_5d370de524c5b_9403fddf34cd96426275 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2389,19 +2389,26 @@ of bytes following it that are set to unpredictable values.  The last 16 bytes
 of the datagram contain a Stateless Reset Token.
 
 To entities other than its intended recipient, a stateless reset will appear
-to be a packet with a short header.  For the packet to appear as valid, the
-Unpredictable Bits field needs to include at least 198 bits of data (or 25
-bytes, less the two fixed bits).  This is intended to allow for a Destination
-Connection ID of the maximum length permitted, with a minimal packet number, and
-payload.  The Stateless Reset Token corresponds to the minimum expansion of the
+to be a packet with a short header.  For the stateless reset to appear as a
+valid QUIC packet and be smaller than the received packet, the Unpredictable
+Bits field needs to include at least 46 bits of data (or 6 bytes, less the
+two fixed bits), because packets that are smaller than 21 bytes are never
+valid.  To ensure the stateless reset packet is not smaller than other
+packets received on the connection, the an endpoint SHOULD also ensure the

typo: the an

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2389,19 +2389,26 @@ of bytes following it that are set to unpredictable values.  The last 16 bytes
 of the datagram contain a Stateless Reset Token.
 
 To entities other than its intended recipient, a stateless reset will appear
-to be a packet with a short header.  For the packet to appear as valid, the
-Unpredictable Bits field needs to include at least 198 bits of data (or 25
-bytes, less the two fixed bits).  This is intended to allow for a Destination
-Connection ID of the maximum length permitted, with a minimal packet number, and
-payload.  The Stateless Reset Token corresponds to the minimum expansion of the
+to be a packet with a short header.  For the stateless reset to appear as a
+valid QUIC packet and be smaller than the received packet, the Unpredictable
+Bits field needs to include at least 46 bits of data (or 6 bytes, less the
+two fixed bits), because packets that are smaller than 21 bytes are never
+valid.  To ensure the stateless reset packet is not smaller than other
+packets received on the connection, the an endpoint SHOULD also ensure the
+total packet length is at least the minimum chosen CID length + 19 bytes.
+19 bytes allows for 1 type byte, 1 data byte, the 16 byte authentication

The invariant we have is payload_length + packet_number_length >= 4 to which you add type byte (1) and auth tag (16) to get 1 + 4 + 16 = 21. I think we want 22 + chosen CID length

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  packet protection AEAD.  More unpredictable bytes might be necessary if the
 endpoint could have negotiated a packet protection scheme with a larger minimum
 AEAD expansion.
 
 An endpoint SHOULD NOT send a stateless reset that is significantly larger than
 the packet it receives.  Endpoints MUST discard packets that are too small to be
 valid QUIC packets.  With the set of AEAD functions defined in {{QUIC-TLS}},
-packets that are smaller than 21 bytes are never valid.
+packets that are smaller than 21 bytes are never valid.  When a packet is b

was this intentional?

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The last 16 bytes of the datagram contain a Stateless Reset Token. To entities other than its intended recipient, a stateless reset will appear -to be a packet with a short header. For the packet to appear as valid, the -Unpredictable Bits field needs to include at least 198 bits of data (or 25 -bytes, less the two fixed bits). This is intended to allow for a Destination -Connection ID of the maximum length permitted, with a minimal packet number, and -payload. The Stateless Reset Token corresponds to the minimum expansion of the +to be a packet with a short header. For the stateless reset to appear as a +valid QUIC packet and be smaller than the received packet, the Unpredictable +Bits field needs to include at least 46 bits of data (or 6 bytes, less the +two fixed bits), because packets that are smaller than 21 bytes are never +valid. To ensure the stateless reset packet is not smaller than other +packets received on the connection, the an endpoint SHOULD also ensure the +total packet length is at least the minimum chosen CID length + 19 bytes. +19 bytes allows for 1 type byte, 1 data byte, the 16 byte authentication SG -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2927#discussion_r306324568 ----==_mimepart_5d370eac4147c_1b123f8dc0ecd9602039e5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2389,19 +2389,26 @@ of bytes following it that are set to unpredictable values.  The last 16 bytes
 of the datagram contain a Stateless Reset Token.
 
 To entities other than its intended recipient, a stateless reset will appear
-to be a packet with a short header.  For the packet to appear as valid, the
-Unpredictable Bits field needs to include at least 198 bits of data (or 25
-bytes, less the two fixed bits).  This is intended to allow for a Destination
-Connection ID of the maximum length permitted, with a minimal packet number, and
-payload.  The Stateless Reset Token corresponds to the minimum expansion of the
+to be a packet with a short header.  For the stateless reset to appear as a
+valid QUIC packet and be smaller than the received packet, the Unpredictable
+Bits field needs to include at least 46 bits of data (or 6 bytes, less the
+two fixed bits), because packets that are smaller than 21 bytes are never
+valid.  To ensure the stateless reset packet is not smaller than other
+packets received on the connection, the an endpoint SHOULD also ensure the
+total packet length is at least the minimum chosen CID length + 19 bytes.
+19 bytes allows for 1 type byte, 1 data byte, the 16 byte authentication

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If a server wishes to support migration/rebinding, it could still choose to use non-zero-length CIDs, as today.

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Closed #2498.

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Resolved by #2766 and #2814.

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Related to #2908, but this is more than editorial.

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----==_mimepart_5d3718c44c04e_1d573f8b762cd9681800b9-- From nobody Tue Jul 23 07:27:38 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90EA91202F8 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 07:27:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.353 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.353 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9vkyZE7FBpak for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 07:27:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-10.smtp.github.com (out-10.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D68B11202FB for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 07:27:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-2ef7ba1.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-2ef7ba1.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.16.66]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BF2B1204E6 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 07:27:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 07:27:26 -0700 From: ekr Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Timing side-channel on key updates (#2792) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d37194e56504_2bba3ff0f88cd95c20098a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ekr X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 14:27:37 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d37194e56504_2bba3ff0f88cd95c20098a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To recap my comments at the mic: it's not clear to me what the attacker is learning here. Can someone expand on this? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2792#issuecomment-514233988 ----==_mimepart_5d37194e56504_2bba3ff0f88cd95c20098a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

To recap my comments at the mic: it's not clear to me what the attacker is learning here. Can someone expand on this?

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Discussed in Montreal: @marten-seemann to work with @martinthomson and @ekr to work out the details

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Discussed in Montreal. Option B eventually got consensus in the room.

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Discussed in Montreal, @DavidSchinazi to revise the PR as discussed and then we'll attempt to see if there is consensus

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Discussed in Montreal. Some concern about enabling a TCP-like usage for QUIC, but concerns about the effect that a choice of an endpoint could have on its peer.

Options are:

  1. MUST use only local information (local host, port, cid) to route packets.

  2. SHOULD, with qualification, but leaving this open to people to shoot each other in the feet.

  3. MUST unless you know something about what your peers (as you identify them) are doing. This precludes peers that attempt to use connection IDs if you intend to use source-address-based routing.

I think that we might want to end up in the third bucket. Which acknowledges and endorses the use case, but properly defines the conditions under which this is acceptable.

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@gloinul commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  If verification fails, then the endpoint ceases setting ECT codepoints in
 subsequent IP packets with the expectation that either the network path or the
 peer does not support ECN.
 
-If an endpoint sets ECT codepoints on outgoing IP packets and encounters a
-retransmission timeout due to the absence of acknowledgments from the peer (see
-{{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), or if an endpoint has reason to believe that an element on
-the network path might be corrupting ECN codepoints, the endpoint MAY cease
-setting ECT codepoints in subsequent packets.  Doing so allows the connection to
-be resilient to network elements that corrupt ECN codepoints in the IP header or
-drop packets with ECT or CE codepoints in the IP header.
+If an ECT codepoint set is not dropped or corrupted by a network device, then a
+received packet contains either the codepoint sent by the peer or the Congestion
+Experienced (CE) codepoint set by a network device that is experiencing
+congestion.
+
+Upon successful verification, an endpoint continues to set ECT codepoints in
+subsequent packets with the expectation that the path is ECN-capable.

Yes, to prevent spurious ECN disablement one should have a number of packets spread over time so that a single burst loss can't be the cause for the loss so that probability is low. So, the downside of the above algorithm is that to get low probability you may have several retransmission of the handshake. From an ECN perspective an implementation could mark a single packet per RTT and not give up testing until 10 RTTs has past. That would have a low probability for spurious disablement.

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Conclusion: prohibit the use of duplicate tokens. Allow, but not require the use of PROTOCOL_VIOLATION if a duplicate is detected.

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----==_mimepart_5d3728afbffba_10f53fcea50cd95c3189f5-- From nobody Tue Jul 23 08:34:44 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E005F120412 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 08:34:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id I38Z2j6wE2zF for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 08:34:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-22.smtp.github.com (out-22.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.205]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 838A112042E for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 08:34:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 08:34:29 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1563896069; bh=JrDoQ7V52WrRqEJHloQcmZSV4Fk3w8F7vBRwtsVhR68=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=YpawWwyICFUNl54bWtC4aUt2tDVzuvDRn0kJwZVEWV1eyPKc7wMjS8OitAZkXMBjx S2LE1KVW824p40BAbhhzXnCOPt0G/Ow8oULtuH4NVOaMkAocV0YdFxhKP4NgXb6Rat dNDxCxX06UBFqzY3qmKgVqfjfb08YjC/WrEnp0mo= From: Lars Eggert Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Discarding connection state at server on unvalidated client (#2656) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d372905c21ca_6fc03fd52a6cd95c38681"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: larseggert X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 15:34:42 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d372905c21ca_6fc03fd52a6cd95c38681 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Discussed in Montreal, decision is to flip to editorial -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2656#issuecomment-514263481 ----==_mimepart_5d372905c21ca_6fc03fd52a6cd95c38681 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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So @ekr is this resolved or do you expect more than what Martin wrote?

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Can we be careful with how we sue "off path" - I think this uses the term assuming some visibility of the packets. In many transport documents, we assume that an off-path attacker does not have a way to see the packets.

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When this happens, and if verification succeeds, the local reference counts MUST be increased to match the counts in the ACK frame. -Processing counts out of order can result in verification failure. An endpoint -SHOULD NOT perform this verification if the ACK frame is received in a packet -with packet number lower than a previously received ACK frame. Verifying based -on ACK frames that arrive out of order can result in disabling ECN -unnecessarily. +Processing counts out of order can result in verification failure. This can +happen when packets containing ACK frames are reordered in the network, or if a +sender retransmits an ACK frame with stale information. An endpoint SHOULD NOT +perform this verification if the ACK frame is received in a packet with packet +number lower than a previously received ACK frame or if the ACK frame does not +acknowledge any new packets. ACK frames that arrive out of order can result in > Rationale: Say I ACK 1-4 then later drop that range (for any reason) and ACK 5-9 in another packet. If those packets get reordered, then when the first eventually arrives, it will have new acknowledgments, but it will still have bad ECN counts. So you can't say that new acknowledgments is necessary. But, in this situation when the ECN counters increase more than expected, the sender getting the ACK will detect that ECN counter increase more and re-synchronize its state. Per this text: An endpoint could miss acknowledgements for a packet when ACK frames are lost. It is therefore possible for the total increase in ECT(0), ECT(1), and CE counts to be greater than the number of packets acknowledged in an ACK frame. When this happens, and if verification succeeds, the local reference counts MUST be increased to match the counts in the ACK frame. Thus, if ACK 1-4 arrive then it will not increase the largest acknowledged, it may however ACK new packets if there are no overlapp. But, according to the rules here it will not result in a validation. > > The packet number is clearly the thing to use - and sufficient on its own - but would it be enough to look for increases in largest acknowledged? ACK processors should not be expected to have access to packet numbers. Allowing implementations to use largest acknowledged would depend on us not allowing that to regress, but that seems like it follows from existing advice. I think this also will ensure that @janaiyengar rule about not increasing ECN counter is also not needed, or do I fail to understand the concern? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@gloinul commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3154,11 +3154,13 @@ to be greater than the number of packets acknowledged in an ACK frame.  When
 this happens, and if verification succeeds, the local reference counts MUST be
 increased to match the counts in the ACK frame.
 
-Processing counts out of order can result in verification failure.  An endpoint
-SHOULD NOT perform this verification if the ACK frame is received in a packet
-with packet number lower than a previously received ACK frame.  Verifying based
-on ACK frames that arrive out of order can result in disabling ECN
-unnecessarily.
+Processing counts out of order can result in verification failure.  This can
+happen when packets containing ACK frames are reordered in the network, or if a
+sender retransmits an ACK frame with stale information.  An endpoint SHOULD NOT
+perform this verification if the ACK frame is received in a packet with packet
+number lower than a previously received ACK frame or if the ACK frame does not
+acknowledge any new packets. ACK frames that arrive out of order can result in

Rationale: Say I ACK 1-4 then later drop that range (for any reason) and ACK 5-9 in another packet. If those packets get reordered, then when the first eventually arrives, it will have new acknowledgments, but it will still have bad ECN counts. So you can't say that new acknowledgments is necessary.

But, in this situation when the ECN counters increase more than expected, the sender getting the ACK will detect that ECN counter increase more and re-synchronize its state. Per this text:

An endpoint could miss acknowledgements for a packet when ACK frames
are lost. It is therefore possible for the total increase in ECT(0),
ECT(1), and CE counts to be greater than the number of packets
acknowledged in an ACK frame. When this happens, and if verification
succeeds, the local reference counts MUST be increased to match the
counts in the ACK frame.

Thus, if ACK 1-4 arrive then it will not increase the largest acknowledged, it may however ACK new packets if there are no overlapp. But, according to the rules here it will not result in a validation.

The packet number is clearly the thing to use - and sufficient on its own - but would it be enough to look for increases in largest acknowledged? ACK processors should not be expected to have access to packet numbers. Allowing implementations to use largest acknowledged would depend on us not allowing that to regress, but that seems like it follows from existing advice.

I think this also will ensure that @janaiyengar rule about not increasing ECN counter is also not needed, or do I fail to understand the concern?

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----==_mimepart_5d372da8da5f0_f0a3fb29becd96020728d-- From nobody Tue Jul 23 08:54:40 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDACA1203AA for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 08:54:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OdiWnn8bkIJJ for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 08:54:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-9.smtp.github.com (out-9.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E37D120347 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 08:54:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 08:54:28 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1563897268; bh=ciTQHvXhAZt0PZjjda+19DmLeOPEqKh7wMSkpZOJ5JQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=OMBgaEXQL1UCHug3p5qs6Zl6mjEEay51qVOhAu9f68bZsdai1Q9fT1jFfr5EhBeA7 yDIQrfOvTtYAshUJ4Dl2uFEzqRSo0VGeSnjbVi69b/9qQba/Rdje9rj4VhlznbPxY8 vBRmzIksqfLifoBDc7voqwrXtnbtFNMO8aAvnXb0= From: Eric Kinnear Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Be more conservative about migration? (#2143) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d372db469eb6_309f3fc66accd95c2325b8"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: erickinnear X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 15:54:38 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d372db469eb6_309f3fc66accd95c2325b8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, sorry @gorryfair, I've got a reference to RFC 3552 in there but haven't updated to fully use the correct terminology yet. Will do, and I'll ping you to take another look to make sure I get the right ones in the right places. :) -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2143#issuecomment-514271725 ----==_mimepart_5d372db469eb6_309f3fc66accd95c2325b8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Yes, sorry @gorryfair, I've got a reference to RFC 3552 in there but haven't updated to fully use the correct terminology yet. Will do, and I'll ping you to take another look to make sure I get the right ones in the right places. :)

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I've updated the associated PR #2851 to make this a SHOULD, and explain that it MUST NOT be violated unless an endpoint knows that these features are not in use.

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=0D = ----==_mimepart_5d37322689006_2ad53fa416acd95c189945-- From nobody Tue Jul 23 09:39:28 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 389BD1203E0 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 09:39:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jh0sj1mP10WI for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 09:39:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6FCA4120378 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 09:39:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 09:39:23 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1563899963; bh=vpT80tlJsEQHwfZrrW9dBpa7EJRMyFdaH4CRQ7GhnZw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=SB/GpMOUGrHO76SKgACOwMpk5FnoIBRygVnXa4ufuu0YQTfHXcQSe2m2PEPRLc1n3 0wNmjH4rKxlYRKcaNfzqP1biSpgFqy494O4TTCNktHfqCKIRfvrCR3WoTkAy2aA5YU G3E81AvfQsIBE5EO3T2v8uzXph/UTrnzfimjpJnY= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Allow connections to share a port by adding restrictions on zero-length connection IDs (#2851) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d37383b6198b_45063f9c76ccd95c2160aa"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 16:39:26 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d37383b6198b_45063f9c76ccd95c2160aa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kazuho commented on this pull request. :+1: The requirements look good to me. I only have one editorial suggestion. > -connection. An endpoint whose peer has selected a zero-length connection ID MUST -continue to use a zero-length connection ID for the lifetime of the connection -and MUST NOT send packets from any other local address. +A zero-length connection ID can be used when a connection ID is not needed +to route to the correct endpoint. An endpoint SHOULD NOT use a zero-length +connection ID unless it can use only its IP address and port to identify a +connection. The IP address and port used by a peer cannot be used for routing +or connection identification as these values can change during a connection's +lifetime, and the peer can reuse a given address and port for additional +connections. Similarly, the peer's connection IDs cannot be used for routing +or identification, as they are not transmitted in the short header packets +they send. Note that multiplexing while using zero-length connection IDs and +relying on the four-tuple of IP addresses and ports for routing will cause +failures in the presence of connection migration, NAT rebinding, and client +port reuse; and therefore MUST NOT be done unless an endpoint is certain that +those protocol features are not in use. I think it might be a good idea to move the "MUST NOT unless" up front, then explain the cases where a zero-length connection ID can be used. E.g., "Multiplexing while using zero-length connection IDs and relying on the four-tuple of IP addresses and ports for routing will cause failures in the presence of connection migration, NAT rebinding, and client port reuse; and therefore MUST NOT be done unless an endpoint is certain that those protocol features are not in use. A zero-length connection ID can be used when a connection ID is not needed to route to the correct endpoint. An endpoint SHOULD NOT use a zero-length connection ID unless it can use only its IP address and port to identify a connection. ..." -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2851#pullrequestreview-265535844 ----==_mimepart_5d37383b6198b_45063f9c76ccd95c2160aa Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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"Multiplexing while using zero-length connection IDs and relying on th= e four-tuple of IP addresses and ports for routing will cause failures in= the presence of connection migration, NAT rebinding, and client port reu= se; and therefore MUST NOT be done unless an endpoint is certain that tho= se protocol features are not in use. A zero-length connection ID can be u= sed when a connection ID is not needed to route to the correct endpoint. = An endpoint SHOULD NOT use a zero-length connection ID unless it can use = only its IP address and port to identify a connection. ..."

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=0D = ----==_mimepart_5d37383b6198b_45063f9c76ccd95c2160aa-- From nobody Tue Jul 23 10:39:32 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43FC0120712 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 10:39:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wkOqborLV2e0 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 10:39:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 058861206F5 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 10:39:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 10:39:16 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1563903556; bh=RLnyVwK/G5kziRmA2E5rzj5DyYiJL7TUwKJ8qZ+Ieds=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=cXOao4mAJ9U+gxVvvxZkd3hcXexl9u5+GOjNAzHZiH9zSBq+ntQ8N1IC14a37NQ61 oO5uKRJ/9DFp1M7bwoZ9Idmm5jVdNFqpVNW/RAWE0bjPuc/fWHWDnF59nXAKx7wmfB VkvTru/pC5t6l9S9iyLzROiphcayV3d9c1BpYzl8= From: David Benjamin Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Lift single-packet ClientHello requirement? (#2928) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d374644183ba_557a3fa993ecd96c689e9"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: davidben X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 17:39:31 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d374644183ba_557a3fa993ecd96c689e9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit draft-ietf-quic-tls says "QUIC requires that the first Initial packet from a client contain an entire cryptographic handshake message, which for TLS is the ClientHello." My (possibly incorrect) understanding is this was needed so the server can, in the old QUIC/TLS embedding, statelessly send a HelloRetryRequest without having to statefully assemble a ClientHello out of multiple packets. In the new QUIC/TLS embedding, this concern no longer applies because the stateless rejects are entirely external to TLS. Thus, should we simply delete most of the #clienthello-size section? This avoids a number of awkward pitfalls because the ClientHello size is a function of many factors, with both client and server considerations that change over time. Perhaps we add a new TLS extension or key share type and some SNIs work but larger SNIs were closer to the limit and this brings them over. Or perhaps the server's NewSessionTicket is large[*] and breaks subsequent connections from some client. Perhaps that server tested it against one client, but another client has a larger baseline ClientHello and then it breaks. Finally, post-quantum key exchange candidates tend to come with [large keys](https://www.imperialviolet.org/2018/04/11/pqconftls.html). The current text prevents QUIC from experimenting with or deploying such schemes. This is particularly fun because QUIC clients typically also speak TLS over TCP, so the security of connections to a server is bound by the weaker of TLS over QUIC and TCP. [*] Client certificates are often inserted into the ticket, so now we have a client-specific limit being influenced by a server-specific implementation decision which is, in turn, dependent on client/CA-controlled size of client certificate. Additionally, draft-ietf-quic-transport#zerortt-parameters implies servers may wish to remember QUIC transport parameters in the ticket. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2928 ----==_mimepart_5d374644183ba_557a3fa993ecd96c689e9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

draft-ietf-quic-tls says "QUIC requires that the first Initial packet from a client contain an entire cryptographic handshake message, which for TLS is the ClientHello."

My (possibly incorrect) understanding is this was needed so the server can, in the old QUIC/TLS embedding, statelessly send a HelloRetryRequest without having to statefully assemble a ClientHello out of multiple packets. In the new QUIC/TLS embedding, this concern no longer applies because the stateless rejects are entirely external to TLS. Thus, should we simply delete most of the #clienthello-size section?

This avoids a number of awkward pitfalls because the ClientHello size is a function of many factors, with both client and server considerations that change over time. Perhaps we add a new TLS extension or key share type and some SNIs work but larger SNIs were closer to the limit and this brings them over. Or perhaps the server's NewSessionTicket is large[*] and breaks subsequent connections from some client. Perhaps that server tested it against one client, but another client has a larger baseline ClientHello and then it breaks.

Finally, post-quantum key exchange candidates tend to come with large keys. The current text prevents QUIC from experimenting with or deploying such schemes. This is particularly fun because QUIC clients typically also speak TLS over TCP, so the security of connections to a server is bound by the weaker of TLS over QUIC and TCP.

[*] Client certificates are often inserted into the ticket, so now we have a client-specific limit being influenced by a server-specific implementation decision which is, in turn, dependent on client/CA-controlled size of client certificate. Additionally, draft-ietf-quic-transport#zerortt-parameters implies servers may wish to remember QUIC transport parameters in the ticket.

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----==_mimepart_5d374644183ba_557a3fa993ecd96c689e9-- From nobody Tue Jul 23 10:52:14 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC16612071D for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 10:51:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LTMkovAeQk01 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 10:51:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F41CC120700 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 10:51:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 10:51:56 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1563904316; bh=J6MX1WvfqIwMWMsarOwMPVmHJ8Bu8IIqGjm3UC9Gc60=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=mEUfdSEE/3C1IxDi497qGMM6ChVUSu09T5WpZa+ya98HbkYKvjr/TKeD+WMXbNXVp 7pavr53/eh9uE3tFDCCGRxmISWppjGCQyQmCZGWiUZ73m+ElXa9LNYILQ0vDXh2HwQ cTY34oz+CM8Riv+dATYEK8MuF+g3S5Tnv7jHyuWE= From: martinduke Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossification (#2496) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d37493ce1462_1a43ffae90cd96422237"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinduke X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 17:52:12 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d37493ce1462_1a43ffae90cd96422237 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Although I might quibble over details, I definitely support option 2 (Marten's proposal). It is one of two proposals that actually prevent ossification, as @huitema points out. Doing it in TLS introduces some dependencies on TLS people to agree to implement ESNI. I propose that we restore the downgrade protection text and move forward with Option 2. I would like to note that it is not strictly necessary that the rest go out with v1 -- we just need a draft that a critical mass of servers and clients agree to support. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2496#issuecomment-514315505 ----==_mimepart_5d37493ce1462_1a43ffae90cd96422237 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Although I might quibble over details, I definitely support option 2 (Marten's proposal). It is one of two proposals that actually prevent ossification, as @huitema points out. Doing it in TLS introduces some dependencies on TLS people to agree to implement ESNI.

I propose that we restore the downgrade protection text and move forward with Option 2. I would like to note that it is not strictly necessary that the rest go out with v1 -- we just need a draft that a critical mass of servers and clients agree to support.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -connection. An endpoint whose peer has selected a zero-length connection ID MUST
-continue to use a zero-length connection ID for the lifetime of the connection
-and MUST NOT send packets from any other local address.
+A zero-length connection ID can be used when a connection ID is not needed
+to route to the correct endpoint. An endpoint SHOULD NOT use a zero-length
+connection ID unless it can use only its IP address and port to identify a
+connection. The IP address and port used by a peer cannot be used for routing
+or connection identification as these values can change during a connection's
+lifetime, and the peer can reuse a given address and port for additional
+connections. Similarly, the peer's connection IDs cannot be used for routing
+or identification, as they are not transmitted in the short header packets
+they send. Note that multiplexing while using zero-length connection IDs and
+relying on the four-tuple of IP addresses and ports for routing will cause
+failures in the presence of connection migration, NAT rebinding, and client
+port reuse; and therefore MUST NOT be done unless an endpoint is certain that
+those protocol features are not in use.

I think that becomes harder to read, but I think that's editorial so I'll let the editors decide how best to write this if we have consensus on the concept

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This seems like a reasonable change to me.

I don't anticipate this creating any new issues with recovery/etc, though it might exacerbate some of the existing ones.

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----==_mimepart_5d374f12c7b3f_72733f9bc9ecd96c924f3-- From nobody Tue Jul 23 11:32:05 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53E88120823 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 11:31:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hllirnDPuWis for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 11:31:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0A87C120810 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 11:31:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 11:31:51 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1563906711; bh=/B41Qyr9HdE4YywU6WXLAsWROfgSDBlRYVtLvo+sBhQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=hBwb5xWN6AuMKD1dA2N+MV//+DK6Qq8Pf1GYsC8CJLhgv4HtXc6z2zW1o8K6VATt9 woOOzNyBd68WNo9VPpSiN/p89kbQUatbdB83X5dftBCJ1kvBdyzT/9ooML4MRs9RXA Wz0PgCD9D3AFFM84NFMd10RC/jL/kZM05duufskg= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Lift single-packet ClientHello requirement? (#2928) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d37529749490_27533fcc794cd9682703f7"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 18:32:04 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d37529749490_27533fcc794cd9682703f7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I believe a main motivation for a single packet is that it avoids binding a lot of state on the server which can be a significant DoS vector. If anything we can expect certificates to get smaller with more widespread use of EC25519. As to post quantum, lets make another QUIC version in about 30-60 years or so. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2928#issuecomment-514329903 ----==_mimepart_5d37529749490_27533fcc794cd9682703f7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I believe a main motivation for a single packet is that it avoids binding a lot of state on the server which can be a significant DoS vector. If anything we can expect certificates to get smaller with more widespread use of EC25519. As to post quantum, lets make another QUIC version in about 30-60 years or so.

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These features were explicitly added to improve (load) performance and they are difficult to adhere to without client-side scheduling. I predict that removing prioritization from H3 without a fallback will lead to performance-minded people having to provide 2 different versions of their sites, 1 for H2 and 1 for H3. For example, the H2 version can have async/defer/preloads mentioned in the head of the HTML, the H3 version without priorities probably shouldn't. I agree with concern but not the predicted outcome. Given the number of problem H2 prioritization implementations, and the relative slugisshness in them getting fixed, we have not seen a proliferation of workaround versions of websites that solve these problems. Order of request is a signal and in an ideal world this helps build a suitable response output queue from a server. But to backtrack a little, it is *hard* to instruct the UA , via HTML, to do this correctly. Element decorations like preload/prefetch act as convenient runaround method, which helps to avoid requiring restructuring of HTML, by giving a supplementary signal to the server. I agree that such signals are desirable for actual applications and what I'd like to achiieve is a common form of this signal[1]. However, I don't have knowledge of the proportion of sites that are actively impacted by poor structuring. We can't fix all problems for all people, the failure of H2's flexible toolkit demonstrates that. Therefore, as a group it might help to come to an agreement on what parity and equivalent performance actually looks like. [1] footnote: on the server-side we base some prioritisation decision on our understanding of how the in-flight prioritisation tree is representing the UAs intent. This is a fragile approach for many reasons. Further, we don't yet know how H3 trees would look exactly, and so there is opportunity for error that affect the performance. Hoping that we'll fluke things and get stuff "just right" is an unfortunate position to be in. So I support simple or minimal signals - including some above the inherent request ordering I mentioned in my first comment. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2924#issuecomment-514336181 ----==_mimepart_5d3756ba654b2_17a3fb34d6cd9601878cb Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I am mainly worried about the impact on more advanced recent and proposed features, such as preload/prefetch, async/defer and priority hints. These features were explicitly added to improve (load) performance and they are difficult to adhere to without client-side scheduling. I predict that removing prioritization from H3 without a fallback will lead to performance-minded people having to provide 2 different versions of their sites, 1 for H2 and 1 for H3. For example, the H2 version can have async/defer/preloads mentioned in the head of the HTML, the H3 version without priorities probably shouldn't.

I agree with concern but not the predicted outcome. Given the number of problem H2 prioritization implementations, and the relative slugisshness in them getting fixed, we have not seen a proliferation of workaround versions of websites that solve these problems.

Order of request is a signal and in an ideal world this helps build a suitable response output queue from a server. But to backtrack a little, it is hard to instruct the UA , via HTML, to do this correctly. Element decorations like preload/prefetch act as convenient runaround method, which helps to avoid requiring restructuring of HTML, by giving a supplementary signal to the server. I agree that such signals are desirable for actual applications and what I'd like to achiieve is a common form of this signal[1]. However, I don't have knowledge of the proportion of sites that are actively impacted by poor structuring. We can't fix all problems for all people, the failure of H2's flexible toolkit demonstrates that. Therefore, as a group it might help to come to an agreement on what parity and equivalent performance actually looks like.

[1] footnote: on the server-side we base some prioritisation decision on our understanding of how the in-flight prioritisation tree is representing the UAs intent. This is a fragile approach for many reasons. Further, we don't yet know how H3 trees would look exactly, and so there is opportunity for error that affect the performance. Hoping that we'll fluke things and get stuff "just right" is an unfortunate position to be in. So I support simple or minimal signals - including some above the inherent request ordering I mentioned in my first comment.

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I agree we should not hurry on this. From a text perspective, it's a simple change. I'd like the chairs(@larseggert @mnot ) to briefly bring this up at the next QUIC session to ensure we can be aware of any potential pitfalls before making this change.

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----==_mimepart_5d3757103ccaf_1b5d3fc7256cd9604921b-- From nobody Tue Jul 23 12:42:18 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E1831208E4 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 12:42:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wThpqo5XeQHZ for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 12:42:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 504671208DC for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 12:42:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 12:42:14 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1563910934; bh=RqxH7hXD18BEZjomkZKrEXHVv7+5J+cD+eyfdNvThEI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=mr5/JBsFEXJRAln15SIm1pxnL+JhwW0lYW3NxnPHP1TTFLPvussfhEHnY4/mUmrDB RNZx4AijHz1p1o0LFK6YJC3YXaXLL47tqIRe9Go4LEmiDV++MUn3qcxjKQ1dhSwmzo VO1q6zH4JeYQb4iAmVUC/QpMVYbYt4ZUeQiNtfTU= From: David Benjamin Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Lift single-packet ClientHello requirement? (#2928) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d37631661166_6393f9246ecd96c298325"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: davidben X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 19:42:17 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d37631661166_6393f9246ecd96c298325 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I believe there was a concern about state at the server for connections that have not yet been established, if it receives only part of a ClientHello Could you elaborate on this? There are other client messages than the initial ClientHello, which would all require state at the server for unestablished connections. There is certainly a need to statelessly do _something_ with unestablished connections, but there's a point where the server transitions to being stateful. In the old TLS/QUIC embedding, yes, that point was at the first ClientHello and you needed the entire ClientHello to produce a HelloRetryRequest+cookie, which was the mechanism for statelessly bouncing a connection. That's no longer the case in the new embedding, as far as I can tell. The retry packets don't actually depend on the full ClientHello or interact with the TLS handshake at all. It should work equally well if that initial packet has a full ClientHello or half of one. > As to post quantum, lets make another QUIC version in about 30-60 years or so. This time estimate is not consistent with what people are already doing in this space. https://www.imperialviolet.org/2018/12/12/cecpq2.html -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2928#issuecomment-514354972 ----==_mimepart_5d37631661166_6393f9246ecd96c298325 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I believe there was a concern about state at the server for connections that have not yet been established, if it receives only part of a ClientHello

Could you elaborate on this? There are other client messages than the initial ClientHello, which would all require state at the server for unestablished connections. There is certainly a need to statelessly do something with unestablished connections, but there's a point where the server transitions to being stateful.

In the old TLS/QUIC embedding, yes, that point was at the first ClientHello and you needed the entire ClientHello to produce a HelloRetryRequest+cookie, which was the mechanism for statelessly bouncing a connection. That's no longer the case in the new embedding, as far as I can tell. The retry packets don't actually depend on the full ClientHello or interact with the TLS handshake at all. It should work equally well if that initial packet has a full ClientHello or half of one.

As to post quantum, lets make another QUIC version in about 30-60 years or so.

This time estimate is not consistent with what people are already doing in this space.
https://www.imperialviolet.org/2018/12/12/cecpq2.html

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----==_mimepart_5d37631661166_6393f9246ecd96c298325-- From nobody Tue Jul 23 13:03:50 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29EB81203C2 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 13:03:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EYVoUNURf2Ve for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 13:03:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-12.smtp.github.com (out-12.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 261E112036D for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 13:03:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 13:03:46 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1563912226; bh=RXykwHi0oTooQ6fWRbVGcJnQ0P9gzw2E2BYKoP9ZDcs=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=p9pMPjJFreaEHKd9+ZU4rRl2mPYxtgqDQBopja0iX4Ow2ZfsR8SnzufUZ0YQSeS19 WPd9l9LRf/Q/at2qH+mFmv4QN/sdDtJfoFOWsF7OV/G6PgfNxt3JKM+7wwuYupYwzL F59c+Tpl5mLsCtVrCmEr4hZbkzXtYpQInnkQq+u0= From: Igor Lubashev Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Allow connections to share a port by adding restrictions on zero-length connection IDs (#2851) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d37682254aa9_51893fbf104cd95c577677"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: igorlord X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 20:03:49 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d37682254aa9_51893fbf104cd95c577677 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit igorlord commented on this pull request. > -connection. An endpoint whose peer has selected a zero-length connection ID MUST -continue to use a zero-length connection ID for the lifetime of the connection -and MUST NOT send packets from any other local address. +A zero-length connection ID can be used when a connection ID is not needed +to route to the correct endpoint. An endpoint SHOULD NOT use a zero-length +connection ID unless it can use only its IP address and port to identify a +connection. The IP address and port used by a peer cannot be used for routing +or connection identification as these values can change during a connection's +lifetime, and the peer can reuse a given address and port for additional +connections. Similarly, the peer's connection IDs cannot be used for routing +or identification, as they are not transmitted in the short header packets +they send. Note that multiplexing while using zero-length connection IDs and +relying on the four-tuple of IP addresses and ports for routing will cause +failures in the presence of connection migration, NAT rebinding, and client +port reuse; and therefore MUST NOT be done unless an endpoint is certain that +those protocol features are not in use. Yes, editorial, but what about just this -- it captures to normative meaning without being redundant with other parts of the spec. _A zero-length connection ID can be used when a connection ID is not needed to route to the correct endpoint. Since relying on the IP address and port of the peer for routing or connection identification will cause failures in the presence of connection migration, NAT rebinding, and client port reuse for multiple connections, an endpoint MUST NOT do so unless it is certain that those protocol features are not used by the peer._ -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2851#discussion_r306507445 ----==_mimepart_5d37682254aa9_51893fbf104cd95c577677 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -connection. An endpoint whose peer has selected a zero-length connection ID MUST
-continue to use a zero-length connection ID for the lifetime of the connection
-and MUST NOT send packets from any other local address.
+A zero-length connection ID can be used when a connection ID is not needed
+to route to the correct endpoint. An endpoint SHOULD NOT use a zero-length
+connection ID unless it can use only its IP address and port to identify a
+connection. The IP address and port used by a peer cannot be used for routing
+or connection identification as these values can change during a connection's
+lifetime, and the peer can reuse a given address and port for additional
+connections. Similarly, the peer's connection IDs cannot be used for routing
+or identification, as they are not transmitted in the short header packets
+they send. Note that multiplexing while using zero-length connection IDs and
+relying on the four-tuple of IP addresses and ports for routing will cause
+failures in the presence of connection migration, NAT rebinding, and client
+port reuse; and therefore MUST NOT be done unless an endpoint is certain that
+those protocol features are not in use.

Yes, editorial, but what about just this -- it captures to normative meaning without being redundant with other parts of the spec.

A zero-length connection ID can be used when a connection ID is not needed to route to the correct endpoint. Since relying on the IP address and port of the peer for routing or connection identification will cause failures in the presence of connection migration, NAT rebinding, and client port reuse for multiple connections, an endpoint MUST NOT do so unless it is certain that those protocol features are not used by the peer.

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I'm not sufficiently deep into the handshake to detail this - but you are correct that there is less dependency on the TLS engine than what went before. I'm not sure when ClientCerts land in this process - I know they can't always fit in one piece but all else being equal, it simplifies bad content defence a lot to have a consistent starting point.

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I believe this is an editorial issue, not design. We all know what we mean: it can encode information by use for itself and trusted intermediaries, but definitely is not correlatable. I agree that MUST is a little tricky unless we are mandating either true encryption or true randomness, which is a discussion I was hoping to defer until QUIC-LB is adopted.

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----==_mimepart_5d376aca45a09_b0a3fe115acd95c91606e-- From nobody Tue Jul 23 13:21:37 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 997BB120910 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 13:21:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bktQd0PYgg9d for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 13:21:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DD15F120352 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 13:21:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 13:21:32 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1563913292; bh=OEPAOpGoEMKvpKqEhOnF6HM41+VY13sVgLDi2+qL2BQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=qAraRLqDrjPMo7PHVqe+rZ2hm3y4AbW97ni2GOGZLxdvmxYV915E5ZX1zq9Oj9r6h kGh+2gnfodK7Qli6Eyl14Bo7rb7kaGuORU+/pSJcFiUDv2CnWNSNXH/vMTm8UDqd0B QxQOaCI/LwlNsuVH10EaEANdwFO4Z+0TET1UC7J0= From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Lift single-packet ClientHello requirement? (#2928) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d376c4cba2c3_46fc3ff9630cd964826639"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 20:21:36 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d376c4cba2c3_46fc3ff9630cd964826639 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If we did allow for multiple packets for the ClientHello, I'd still want to retain the ability to decide whether or not to accept the incoming connection from every one of those initial packets. This would mean things like ALPN and SNI would need to be duplicated in each packet. I wouldn't want to accept a design where an attacker forces the server to buffer packets while it wait for the necessary information just to decided if it can accept the connection. IMO, this sounds like a v2 feature. Does this prevent us from shipping v1? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2928#issuecomment-514368733 ----==_mimepart_5d376c4cba2c3_46fc3ff9630cd964826639 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

If we did allow for multiple packets for the ClientHello, I'd still want to retain the ability to decide whether or not to accept the incoming connection from every one of those initial packets. This would mean things like ALPN and SNI would need to be duplicated in each packet. I wouldn't want to accept a design where an attacker forces the server to buffer packets while it wait for the necessary information just to decided if it can accept the connection. IMO, this sounds like a v2 feature. Does this prevent us from shipping v1?

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@nibanks and I discussed in Montreal and agreed that we could handle this in QUIC-LB under the issue he filed there: martinduke/draft-duke-quic-load-balancers#43

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At the risk of tying this in with other issues, there are two separate problems here.

  1. Migration: if I change address, I have no means of expressing that it is the same connection. On the other hand "DISABLE_MIGRATION" promises that things will fall apart if the address changes. In that event I am not sure why we would force the server to do anything.
  2. Multiplexing. I agree that this case does not work if the server has no CID. But are servers required to support the same-port case? As someone that will be stuck with a 4-tuple based infrastructure for at least another year, trying to handle multiple connections on one 4-tuple is quite laborious and I'm not likely to support it in the near term. I'd much rather spend the time fixing my internal routing rather than band-aiding this use case.

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Removing PRIORITY from the drafts while we reason about the priority scheme (if any) we want for HTTP/3 sounds good to me.

That being said, I think it's important to have some mechanism for the client to assist the server in providing resources in the best order. At the same time, it's clear that the HTTP/2 dependency tree is overly complex. As a result, something like pmeenan's scheme sounds great.

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  1. multiplexing:

I'm not sure if same port should always be supported, but aside from your temporary difficulties, it is highly valuable to servers with the opposite view: band-aiding ephemeral hosts when it is much simpler to just multiplex on the raw packet based on a connection ID hash. A lot of infrastructure is artificially limited by the number of ephemeral ports available. Getting rid of this problem requires getting rid of ephemeral ports.

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----==_mimepart_5d37fedf12124_6453fcbbe0cd9644381ac-- From nobody Wed Jul 24 00:06:58 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EDEE12032E for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 00:06:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RCw6nDBs0BuT for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 00:06:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 819D31202DF for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 00:06:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 00:06:54 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1563952014; bh=9HDAd66RJK3yXZCHGqaDIcAYOV5QdIPjZFk9nsFpd7U=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=u1DCGiWN/IV+dIx1HYwII0W3p6Z1vfUPm5cykRSUwxlFCMCZesuQ3cZrtkpnRgz14 ZkzGBhJI0nhxGw1ZSvU/qNgrk8kaMupYEBGBlzsUOcv4wipB6Vj+RPmUTAhYoFTHuT mt3Tn5JWo6XW+C8zHwYdLD5bvZVTGuYW3D4OmH+4= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove PRIORITY (#2924) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d38038e5c042_61d03f85696cd968147014"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 07:06:57 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d38038e5c042_61d03f85696cd968147014 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For reference, here is the pmeenan scheme: https://github.com/pmeenan/http3-prioritization-proposal The scheme states the bandwidth splitting is implementation dependent. That makes me wonder if Weighted Round Robin scheduling would make sense - it is certainly something I would build into the core transport scheduler based on app provided priorities. It would be neat if H/3 tapped into such a framework. This means the low priority content is not 100% excluded by higher priority content such that small content can get through eventually. But likely there could be some tunable parameter for how much residual bandwidth is reserved for the next lower priority. E.g. 0% or 10% etc. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2924#issuecomment-514508478 ----==_mimepart_5d38038e5c042_61d03f85696cd968147014 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

For reference, here is the pmeenan scheme: https://github.com/pmeenan/http3-prioritization-proposal

The scheme states the bandwidth splitting is implementation dependent. That makes me wonder if Weighted Round Robin scheduling would make sense - it is certainly something I would build into the core transport scheduler based on app provided priorities. It would be neat if H/3 tapped into such a framework.

This means the low priority content is not 100% excluded by higher priority content such that small content can get through eventually. But likely there could be some tunable parameter for how much residual bandwidth is reserved for the next lower priority. E.g. 0% or 10% etc.

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----==_mimepart_5d385d9081677_544e3fc9d58cd9601217044-- From nobody Wed Jul 24 07:06:22 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DAD412017D for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 07:06:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9YzIcBGj0cRc for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 07:06:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B84AF12015E for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 07:06:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 07:06:17 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1563977177; bh=95gFMt8DwrafFPZt18zBsgI0MD5Jniumlz7UyeR+lec=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=wdJqV0iSkCRyR/u0bLxCOihY9aneaJnqhKQAVx0OlCJZd4JD1HbCf+c6tsZ/Q7T2Q KJvnlcaHLK8BYTtClqx3O8O5uxE11WbBhogEtAt6+bAG2QM7rawnG8t2CTJ4gmumQr 7sxM5cyfPbIS3kZvQKTquWB0vUjpvmszOr6VgC3I= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Allow connections to share a port by adding restrictions on zero-length connection IDs (#2851) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d3865d9a2be9_2cf53f95092cd96c710a9"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 14:06:20 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d3865d9a2be9_2cf53f95092cd96c710a9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson approved this pull request. > @@ -924,11 +924,19 @@ selected by the client, both to ensure correct routing toward the client and to allow the client to validate that the packet is in response to an Initial packet. -A zero-length connection ID MAY be used when the connection ID is not needed for -routing and the address/port tuple of packets is sufficient to identify a -connection. An endpoint whose peer has selected a zero-length connection ID MUST -continue to use a zero-length connection ID for the lifetime of the connection -and MUST NOT send packets from any other local address. +A zero-length connection ID can be used when a connection ID is not needed +to route to the correct endpoint. An endpoint SHOULD NOT use a zero-length +connection ID unless it can use only its IP address and port to identify a +connection. The IP address and port used by a peer cannot be used for routing The substance of the discussion we had suggests that this "cannot" is really a SHOULD NOT. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2851#pullrequestreview-265589221 ----==_mimepart_5d3865d9a2be9_2cf53f95092cd96c710a9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@martinthomson approved this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -924,11 +924,19 @@ selected by the client, both to ensure correct routing toward the client and to
 allow the client to validate that the packet is in response to an Initial
 packet.
 
-A zero-length connection ID MAY be used when the connection ID is not needed for
-routing and the address/port tuple of packets is sufficient to identify a
-connection. An endpoint whose peer has selected a zero-length connection ID MUST
-continue to use a zero-length connection ID for the lifetime of the connection
-and MUST NOT send packets from any other local address.
+A zero-length connection ID can be used when a connection ID is not needed
+to route to the correct endpoint. An endpoint SHOULD NOT use a zero-length
+connection ID unless it can use only its IP address and port to identify a
+connection. The IP address and port used by a peer cannot be used for routing

The substance of the discussion we had suggests that this "cannot" is really a SHOULD NOT.

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----==_mimepart_5d3865d9a2be9_2cf53f95092cd96c710a9-- From nobody Wed Jul 24 07:09:17 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4788D120240 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 07:09:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.596 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.596 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vZqqqfAbteLn for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 07:09:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49E4A12017D for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 07:09:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 07:09:12 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1563977352; bh=M0UMF54Oq90BspBpKyB0XpvSMos7CgEtJE6MuVynGKs=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Y8Qs/qfODkOZOtVKD5ZLfgQpNDOeL3ePYMn0WFN5kTVInIEbhQOGU+Ni62vRqo5vQ ekNh5l+4g9sBjTGV8jvN/ib1q+CzceWCwFVT/2zS5tDmqvj71Y/41hGbvm9tXXdwxW 9T3IxkyB3EDgxku0uG3iTn8igtbEf/ITRNLWQhzg= From: Robin Marx Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove PRIORITY (#2924) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d386688cf19b_74223f9d216cd95c3068c2"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: rmarx X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 14:09:16 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d386688cf19b_74223f9d216cd95c3068c2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There was a side meeting on prioritization in general at IETF 105 in Montreal. My personal notes (subject to errors and misinterpretations) are attached. My main takeaways: - Will probably drop H2's scheme (tbd in the HTTPbis meeting later) - Will probably move to extension-based setup to de-couple priorities from H3's core text and to stop it from being a blocker to launch QUIC/H3 - Will add a new SETTINGS parameter or similar setup so endpoints can indicate which prioritization setup they are using / want to use - Hope to have enough people implement one or more of the extensions before H3 launches. Proof of implementation is expected to help determine which extension "wins" - There is some disagreement on whether a frame-based or header-based design is best - Should look at potential interop / backporting issues and opportunities for HTTP/2 as well [IETF105Montreal_sidemeeting_notes_24july2019.txt](https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/files/3427181/IETF105Montreal_sidemeeting_notes_24july2019.txt) -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2924#issuecomment-514647866 ----==_mimepart_5d386688cf19b_74223f9d216cd95c3068c2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

There was a side meeting on prioritization in general at IETF 105 in Montreal. My personal notes (subject to errors and misinterpretations) are attached.

My main takeaways:

  • Will probably drop H2's scheme (tbd in the HTTPbis meeting later)
  • Will probably move to extension-based setup to de-couple priorities from H3's core text and to stop it from being a blocker to launch QUIC/H3
  • Will add a new SETTINGS parameter or similar setup so endpoints can indicate which prioritization setup they are using / want to use
  • Hope to have enough people implement one or more of the extensions before H3 launches. Proof of implementation is expected to help determine which extension "wins"
  • There is some disagreement on whether a frame-based or header-based design is best
  • Should look at potential interop / backporting issues and opportunities for HTTP/2 as well

IETF105Montreal_sidemeeting_notes_24july2019.txt

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Will add a new SETTINGS parameter or similar setup so endpoints can indicate which prioritization setup they are using / want to use

This seems a little controversial. Patrick expressed a desire to limit the number of potential schemes. One of the source of the failings in h2 was the way that it enabled proliferation of schemes. On the converse side of this, Alan said that if implementation is consistent across servers, then allowing variation in clients is fine. I would add that this is not consistently implemented.

Meta-point: I do want to have a scheme, I just have low expectations of our ability to succeed in the time frame we aspire to.

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So if a client is forced to split the ClientHello into two datagrams, you can use Retry. I don't think that this is crazy. The only thing we know to be true is that the restriction is annoying.

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My mistake: late stage process means that only chairs mark things as design. This is a design change.

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----==_mimepart_5d387de84dc02_71163fc733ccd960265990-- From nobody Wed Jul 24 11:23:06 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E4F5120112 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 11:23:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8cDTPdZ9xw5d for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 11:23:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-11.smtp.github.com (out-11.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8F878120059 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 11:23:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 11:23:02 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1563992583; bh=ashFMwNDx3wCVyfzsYWBgz3pZUopI8vrYIzdSnUskdA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=dqvLdnldkKvdXa990VltXobMOb6wcVm/JclR32BrXvqKFfDK4o1FrbxJteymKZGua XQ7mW0d+IIlQDNHOgF7q4BxBGkJ2w4LRxhmuB4wTkkz/boX1GuRkcqyJgij7aG/Yz5 CDL9nRPqKXI3e0sxaY7wqPabP5I8jFr5AdMmYGz8= From: Ryan Hamilton Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove PRIORITY (#2924) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d38a206bfdb2_16783f9f88acd96c30344c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: RyanAtGoogle X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 18:23:05 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d38a206bfdb2_16783f9f88acd96c30344c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 8:16 AM Martin Thomson wrote: > Meta-point: I do want to have a scheme, I just have low expectations of > our ability to succeed in the time frame we aspire to. > > I completely agree about the desire to have a scheme that is part of the core of HTTP/3 (even if there are extensions which offer a more powerful scheme). Given the time pressure that you mention, I would be strongly inclined to support a very basic scheme. > -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2924#issuecomment-514744831 ----==_mimepart_5d38a206bfdb2_16783f9f88acd96c30344c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 8:16 AM Martin Thomson <notifications@github.com>
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> Meta-point: I do want to have a scheme, I just have low expectations of
> our ability to succeed in the time frame we aspire to.
>
> I completely agree about the desire to have a scheme that is part of the
core of HTTP/3 (even if there are extensions which offer a more powerful
scheme). Given the time pressure that you mention, I would be
strongly inclined to support a very basic scheme.

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The most minimal scheme that comes to my mind is one that does FIFO based on request order and allows urgent requests to jump the queue.

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If it's to simple it is not very useful and might prevent something useful from happening.

I like the pmeenan scheme, it seems simple enough and can be negotiated for more advanced behaviour later on. This could easily be a header, and then it is fairly similar to @LPardue and @kazuho's proposal if I understand it right.

Basically: 7 priorities, and 1 concurrency bit in a header. Drop the lower bits if you have fewer levels. Future: use lower level bits for groups if you need it and can negotiate it.

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----==_mimepart_5d38c9c9cf34_5c8f3f8455acd9602817e0-- From nobody Wed Jul 24 16:16:04 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8707912006E for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 16:16:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AaY5u6h9StuA for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 16:16:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D4ED01202C7 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 16:16:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 16:15:59 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1564010159; bh=xbY0Q6LVu/AeKDwqC6wewrG/uHM2boD8ipa+eaL9mpY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=tsG8SevKJDyrLi1mK5CO22GrhZwuparkemOCW0yrYeSDyADGT22WVLbMuDzhNy2kr 7XB6416aNJeep4V0pTem8lJ95LReCdMk3Q/MJb7+koEF4Mmpmj0cXzHDh/X6a0pQPC W1CnXDurV45stc4AbM2XM1SAk2vUiwQ10KHlBxUU= From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] H3 GOAWAY should be symmetric and cover bidi and uni streams (#2632) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d38e6afe4b16_8f43fdb3cecd9641222c8"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 23:16:03 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d38e6afe4b16_8f43fdb3cecd9641222c8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It was mentioned in Montreal that the HTTP WG was asked about this. Was the response reflected back in this ticket? * apologies, this one completely popped off my stack -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2632#issuecomment-514833409 ----==_mimepart_5d38e6afe4b16_8f43fdb3cecd9641222c8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

It was mentioned in Montreal that the HTTP WG was asked about this. Was the response reflected back in this ticket?

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[ci skip] From nobody Thu Jul 25 02:53:13 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF12A1205D4 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2019 02:53:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PWrLEq0CF9P7 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2019 02:53:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 42C9F1200F9 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2019 02:53:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 02:53:08 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1564048388; bh=XHOWSzvK2R3yr4eosXwvbxaW/T5zyFvIYemd1i+7ViY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=MMaQDnB+LMkA7uznyB5SUFv6thsIO/nVpK+FV2X4DD2MhzoOmKxR0bdW4If5QbjK8 x2eMmiIObB+r2AajIikRnnsOxSkRm+OQbzWGJhpzcmNBHRjnp4qh08nKm5Wl4cvCNO 1N1uoiVEMoWH3SqiS1Hgp22y+Uf2f7z3E3CwgYro= From: Robin Marx Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove PRIORITY (#2924) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d397c04557d2_66ea3f80dc2cd96c937d2"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: rmarx X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 09:53:12 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d397c04557d2_66ea3f80dc2cd96c937d2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > This seems a little controversial. Patrick expressed a desire to limit the number of potential schemes. One of the source of the failings in h2 was the way that it enabled proliferation of schemes. I understand the argument, but I don't see how we could move prioritization to an extension (and mainly: allow more than one extension) and not add some kind of negotiation/setting to specify what is supported/will be used. I am a big proponent of adding this in if we decide not to fix priorities in H3 core **properly** (which is very much looking like it will be the case). Even if the SETTING ends up being moot down the line (e.g., all browsers decided to just support 1 approach), it will still be very useful for testing various extension proposals in the mean time (see it as a prioritization ALPN). I am interested in working on the design of such a setting. > Given the time pressure that you mention, I would be strongly inclined to support a very basic scheme. This seems to be the most sensible way forward at this point. I would suggest to use the scheme proposed by Kazuho and Lucas (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kazuho-httpbis-priority-01). It uses 8 different semantic prioritization levels ("urgency") and a progressive/non-progressive indicator. It could be seen as a simple variation on both Patrick Meenan's proposal and the original SPDY approach, while still allowing enough flexibility to represent some of the more subtle peculiarities of resource loading semantics. As I feel the best way to "finally fix" priorities down the line is to add a lot more semantic information with each request (see https://github.com/kazuho/draft-kazuho-httpbis-priority/issues/28), I feel this simpler approach is a good foundation for that, that will also make "upgrading" easier down the line. Concretely, I would suggest **adding the 8 urgencies and progressive boolean to the core H3 draft** (making a note that it's not perfect, but not awful either, and that they remain "hints") and to use (an) H3 frame(s) to transport them. Kazuho's and Lucas' proposal of using an HTTP-header to transmit the same information, can be done as an extension (hopefully to be implemented by most of us as well, especially the browsers). Patrick Meenan's setup can also be an extension, which people can use for experimentation. The "final fix" (whatever it may be) can start as a relatively simple extension, can be implemented by a subset of stacks to get some experience, and then grow organically. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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This seems a little controversial. Patrick expressed a desire to limit= the number of potential schemes. One of the source of the failings in h2= was the way that it enabled proliferation of schemes.

I understand the argument, but I don't see how we could move prioritiz= ation to an extension (and mainly: allow more than one extension) and not= add some kind of negotiation/setting to specify what is supported/will b= e used. I am a big proponent of adding this in if we decide not to fix pr= iorities in H3 core properly (which is very much looking= like it will be the case). Even if the SETTING ends up being moot down t= he line (e.g., all browsers decided to just support 1 approach), it will = still be very useful for testing various extension proposals in the mean = time (see it as a prioritization ALPN). I am interested in working on the= design of such a setting.

Given the time pressure that you mention, I would be strongly inclined= to support a very basic scheme.

This seems to be the most sensible way forward at this point. I would = suggest to use the scheme proposed by Kazuho and Lucas (= https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kazuho-httpbis-priority-01). It use= s 8 different semantic prioritization levels ("urgency") and a progressiv= e/non-progressive indicator. It could be seen as a simple variation on bo= th Patrick Meenan's proposal and the original SPDY approach, while still = allowing enough flexibility to represent some of the more subtle peculiar= ities of resource loading semantics. As I feel the best way to "finally f= ix" priorities down the line is to add a lot more semantic information wi= th each request (see kazuho/draft-kazuho-httpbis-priority#28), I feel this simpler appr= oach is a good foundation for that, that will also make "upgrading" easie= r down the line.

Concretely, I would suggest adding the 8 urgencies and progres= sive boolean to the core H3 draft (making a note that it's not p= erfect, but not awful either, and that they remain "hints") and to use (a= n) H3 frame(s) to transport them. Kazuho's and Lucas' proposal of using a= n HTTP-header to transmit the same information, can be done as an extensi= on (hopefully to be implemented by most of us as well, especially the bro= wsers). Patrick Meenan's setup can also be an extension, which people can= use for experimentation. The "final fix" (whatever it may be) can start = as a relatively simple extension, can be implemented by a subset of stack= s to get some experience, and then grow organically.

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To summarize the discussion on the HTTP list:

  • H2 GOAWAY is symmetric
  • A GOAWAY sent by the client will prevent any pushes higher than the last-stream-id in the GOAWAY
  • Martin feels like this behavior is wrong, and it shouldn't be carried over into H3.

Do we need to build consensus from the HTTP working group that it is OK to deviate from H2 semantics in H3, like we are now planning to do for priorities?

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Martin feels like this behavior is wrong, and it shouldn't be carried over into H3.

While this is true, we have - as a working group - previously discussed the principles underlying this and agreed that the unit we should care about is the request.

However, I agree that this is something we should discuss at the HTTP working group. Where we can each put on a different set of hats.

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The agreed option requires no action, so this is ready for a consensus call.

How so - isn't option B about a multiplier TP - that would require a PR no?

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@dtikhonov commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -5753,13 +5753,184 @@ DecodePacketNumber(largest_pn, truncated_pn, pn_nbits):
    return candidate_pn
 ~~~
 
+# Overview of Security Properties {#security-properties}
+
+A complete security analysis of QUIC is outside the scope of this document.  In
+this appendix, we provide an informal description of the desired security
+properties as an aid to implementors and to help guide protocol analysis.
+
+We cover properties of the handshake, general transport, and migration
+separately.

I'd drop the use of "we." In the whole draft-ietf-quic-transport-22, for instance, the word "we" is encountered only once, while RFC 7540 and 7541 contain no instances of this pronoun.

I suggest instead:

  • This appendix provides and informal description...; and
  • Handshake, ...etc. are covered separately.

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While this is true, we have - as a working group - previously discussed the principles underlying this and agreed that the unit we should care about is the request.

What's ill defined is whether the pushes that come on a request are part of the request or not. I think a reasonable argument can be made for either interpretation.

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @martinduke I agree that there are two separate issues. My opinion is that we should require servers to support clients multiplexing multiple connections on the same port. It's OK if your routing infrastructure only looks at the four-tuple, but the end-server than receives the packet needs to demultiplex based on the server connection ID. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2844#issuecomment-515554237 ----==_mimepart_5d3b45ea7dd88_76d23ff0a5acd96c228540 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@martinduke I agree that there are two separate issues.

My opinion is that we should require servers to support clients multiplexing multiple connections on the same port. It's OK if your routing infrastructure only looks at the four-tuple, but the end-server than receives the packet needs to demultiplex based on the server connection ID.

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@DavidSchinazi Note that supporting multiplexing clients does not mean always using a server CID. A server that does not support client migration may decide to use a CID only if the client is using non-zero-length CID. (And there is little reason for a client CID other than for multiplexing.)

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@igorlord As a server you should not use zero-length connection IDs unless you can demultiplex locally based on your own IP and port. Violating that breaks several protocol features - see #2851 .

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----==_mimepart_5d3b4f9734f_42063fe6308cd95c7047f-- From nobody Fri Jul 26 12:33:50 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE94C120090 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2019 12:33:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7b1S1efujzn3 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2019 12:33:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-21.smtp.github.com (out-21.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.204]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 37DC5120071 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2019 12:33:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 12:33:45 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1564169625; bh=BJyYcj6AvTiPNHPoD7yanx3gwitcpBXveCftEAYUFWA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=nvFS7ieubR3RoyYct6Q8RrOMqkU787WXt31RTorkNqmxQVmTtONS5ntitx6hFxMLT 2nSMNc1LywXbJLPBWwaKEByCmXq1uJnvkskRmSoVmbGX7iQyH7JfL+OE0O0aUOuocn Aya2sAXkeLZHg6DQxyAflP+kSnlAv2zF0XeDAL3c= From: Igor Lubashev Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Client connection IDs are broken (#2844) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d3b55995ef4e_40583ff1bbccd96c96069"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: igorlord X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 19:33:48 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d3b55995ef4e_40583ff1bbccd96c96069 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @DavidSchinazi I obviously disagree with this (and we had a discussion about this in Montreal). Support for connection migration is optional. Hence, if the server does not support connection migration or knows that a particular client will not migrate, there is no need for a server to supply a non-zero-length CID, when such a client supplies a zero-length CID. Which protocol feature is missing when the client will not migrate, if the server is using a 4-tuple to demux and there is a zero-length client and server CID? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2844#issuecomment-515573666 ----==_mimepart_5d3b55995ef4e_40583ff1bbccd96c96069 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@DavidSchinazi I obviously disagree with this (and we had a discussion about this in Montreal). Support for connection migration is optional. Hence, if the server does not support connection migration or knows that a particular client will not migrate, there is no need for a server to supply a non-zero-length CID, when such a client supplies a zero-length CID.

Which protocol feature is missing when the client will not migrate, if the server is using a 4-tuple to demux and there is a zero-length client and server CID?

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@igorlord A client that is using a single UDP connection w= ould not be able two establish two connections to such a server at the sa= me time. Even worse, it would have no way of knowing if it=E2=80=99s safe= to dial two connections concurrently.

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@marten-seemann such client would not use a zero-length client CID, do the argument is moot.

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----==_mimepart_5d3b5b3181873_4a083ffd17acd95c21587a-- From nobody Fri Jul 26 13:15:38 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAE1B1201D5 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2019 13:15:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ibvCyBEUCDbV for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2019 13:15:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-21.smtp.github.com (out-21.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.204]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ACAD81201CF for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2019 13:15:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 13:15:33 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1564172133; bh=IBkTWqSnRMBDAG0n/ox9Zj+UwgrkcHCSM7b5T449qFo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Fd/6K5coRw9+smwZPzXx8fNkyDE9pHGm6sSEpWC7fX1bLlDlKJn3HcgUSKXlEfPD6 KROib3hrxYR8/oMlCQb1rFpz5bH9mLVSX/FRz2AHDX8PYOYlBEkuHjZC38pI1jiQks X+9mk+iYbPXLCUrXl7S4phL5r+N9f0AqnDgWFKJc= From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Client connection IDs are broken (#2844) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d3b5f65a7e07_28163fe52bccd9681363cd"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 20:15:37 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d3b5f65a7e07_28163fe52bccd9681363cd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @igorlord The client would not use zero-length CIDs for *receiving* packets. The problem occurs when the server uses zero-length CIDs, since it won't be able to distinguish between the two connections. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2844#issuecomment-515585239 ----==_mimepart_5d3b5f65a7e07_28163fe52bccd9681363cd Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@igorlord The client would not use zero-length CIDs for receiving packets. The problem occurs when the server uses zero-length CIDs, since it won't be able to distinguish between the two connections.

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+1 to what @marten-seemann said

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By definition, non-ACK-eliciting packets never need to be ACKed. Verbiage introduced in PR #2794 states:

When only non-ACK-eliciting packets need to be acknowledged, ...

I am not sure what the intended meaning was. Perhaps what was meant is "when only non-ACK-eliciting packets have not been acked,..." We could try to find a more graceful way to phrase it.

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Non-ack-eliciting packets do need to be ack'ed, they just don't trigger the process.

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@marten-seemann So we are saying the same thing. I do not see where you are disagreeing. I said, verbatim:

if the server does not support connection migration or knows that a particular client will not migrate, there is no need for a server to supply a non-zero-length CID, when such a client supplies a zero-length CID.

Both of us are agreeing that a client who is interested in multiplexing will not chose to use a zero-length client CID. Hence the server will also not use a zero-length server CID.

But when clients chose a zero-length client CID (making they will not multiplex on that 4-tuple), the server should be free to choose a zero-length server CID, if it does not support connection migration.

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----==_mimepart_5d3b7e22aa85f_cb93f9fbeccd95c1346a0-- From nobody Fri Jul 26 15:43:05 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB50C12019D for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2019 15:43:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CQXSS9tZBLA6 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2019 15:43:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-22.smtp.github.com (out-22.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.205]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4A5F912019C for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2019 15:43:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 15:43:00 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1564180980; bh=WLedeLCrhY3tzesTlV03TWncWqCJhyAsmVZISkEvfes=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=RmBPRdr/CDX2XHAWufta4QGhnh6Tf2xNdf+wHhf1d9uek6gETY4i23NrIiffV0jvz NRRiG+c3RuLOD8jy8ntd1nU9YOsJpDvANJeiYAoEL4CeVNiis2bCerxSLhwRyrMNGX zgMWHkOkMi8B5HExsJrcqfSbu1t4uuo8OnLjD5i8= From: David Schinazi Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Client connection IDs are broken (#2844) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d3b81f480aaa_4aa93f9f024cd96c586ef"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: DavidSchinazi X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 22:43:03 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d3b81f480aaa_4aa93f9f024cd96c586ef Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @igorlord How does that work in practice? You can't use both zero-length and non-zero-length connection IDs on the same server without trial decryption. What happens when your first client uses zero-length-client-CIDs and you second one doesn't? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2844#issuecomment-515620497 ----==_mimepart_5d3b81f480aaa_4aa93f9f024cd96c586ef Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@igorlord How does that work in practice? You can't use both zero-length and non-zero-length connection IDs on the same server without trial decryption. What happens when your first client uses zero-length-client-CIDs and you second one doesn't?

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@DavidSchinazi You can use both on the same server, and no trial decryption is required.

Map < 4-tuple , connection_ctx > no_cid_connections_by_4_tuple;
Map < CID , connection_ctx > connections_by_cid;

The the incoming 4-tuple is found in no_cid_connections_by_4_tuple, use that connection_ctx. Otherwise, assume there is a CID and look up in connections_by_cid. That's all.

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@igorlord thanks for clarifying. I have to admit this approach does seem convoluted. What's the benefit of this over non-zero-length server connection IDs? (they have the advantage of surviving NAT rebinding)

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@DavidSchinazi Short answer: saving bytes on the wire.

Long answer:

A server may need to support both regular clients (so using a server CID) as well as peer servers in the datacenter (or some SDN). It may be trivial to identify such peers (anyone using 10.0.0.0/8), so why waste CID in each packet when talking to 10.0.0.0/8 machines? Moreover, QUIC now supports huge Server CIDs (up to 20 bytes), and if that's what's needed for regular clients, that's wasting 20 bytes per packet on internal communications.

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@igorlord I think no one would stop you from doing something like what you describe in your comment.

However, most of us do not want to be forced do something as complex as that. Therefore, we are trying to clarify when the 4-tuple can be used by the server for identifying the connections.

If it is your intent is to ensure that your mixed approach is allowed as one of the approaches, then I think we can clarify that in #2851 (I think it's already implied).

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----==_mimepart_5d3b9ee66f3b8_396f3fc116ecd9689792e-- From nobody Fri Jul 26 19:10:03 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F0111201FA for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2019 19:10:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QSfiflboDV-i for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2019 19:09:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-10.smtp.github.com (out-10.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7089A1201D9 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2019 19:09:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 19:09:58 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1564193398; bh=YkB3z4w/VXpAyDBZlnZY0H55Bxh4UBMJp99IJK5yeDY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=V5WQL4XO7tX8S07l61slGr+y+xZGundiNPm9dlqzDyQB5j5k4Qw4R7s6E/qkOxF7e vQjdyOtiClpZgmoJAJk7YM5vfuRitkmnWnwjyPtvqlBEOgeCuqBEyDvdAPZFwfP7/o T2d1DDsp1jXpxN8M0bqMP1V01ozB6ql+sOQAcKtg= From: Igor Lubashev Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Client connection IDs are broken (#2844) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d3bb27681c8f_37e43fc63d0cd968113494"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: igorlord X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2019 02:10:02 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d3bb27681c8f_37e43fc63d0cd968113494 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @kazuho This discussion is about not arbitrarily forbidding something that is useful. Of course different implementations will chose to do what they need to do. Once the implementation is deployed at scale, people tend to look for ways to find even 1% improvements. I am puzzled why you think it is "complex", though. Is it that much more complex to do ```connection = by_4tuple[pkt.4tuple()] ? : by_cid[pkt.cid()];``` than ```connection b by_cid[pkt.cid()];``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2844#issuecomment-515643427 ----==_mimepart_5d3bb27681c8f_37e43fc63d0cd968113494 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@kazuho This discussion is about not arbitrarily forbidding something that is useful. Of course different implementations will chose to do what they need to do. Once the implementation is deployed at scale, people tend to look for ways to find even 1% improvements.

I am puzzled why you think it is "complex", though.

Is it that much more complex to do

connection = by_4tuple[pkt.4tuple()] ? : by_cid[pkt.cid()];

than

connection b by_cid[pkt.cid()];

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@igorlord

This discussion is about not arbitrarily forbidding something that is useful.

Thank you for the clarification. Assuming that we can give clients the freedom coalesce multiple connections onto a single 5-tuple, I do not have a strong argument against giving servers some wiggle room.

I am puzzled why you think it is "complex", though.

Is it that much more complex to do

connection = by_4tuple[pkt.4tuple()] ? : by_cid[pkt.cid()];

than

connection = by_cid[pkt.cid()];

I think it is more complex than that.

The approach you are describing can be modeled as a daisy-chain of two QUIC servers.

What would the server do if there is no corresponding state for a short header packet that you receive, neither in by_4tuple nor by_cid?

The server needs to send a stateless reset. But because the server cannot tell if the packet were to be identified by the 4-tuple or the CID (because you no longer have state!), the server needs to send two stateless reset packets, one generated using the 4-tuple as the key, and the other generated using the CID. However, simply doing that could lead to an amplification attack (as we know, the amount of data (or packets) the server can send as a reset needs to be smaller than the amount of data that the server has received).

This might be a problem htat we want to solve. But is it worth spending the time of the WG to discuss such thing? I'm not sure.

And I'm not sure if this is the only problem that exists in the proposed design.

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know, the amount of data (or packets) the server can send as a reset needs
to be smaller than the amount of data that the server has received).

The main reason for this is not amplification but because it could lead to
infinite reset loops. This could be by mistake, or by deliberate injection
of packets to trigger this behaviour.

Mikkel

On 27 July 2019 at 08.31.52, Kazuho Oku (notifications@github.com) wrote:

However, simply doing that could lead to an amplification attack (as we
know, the amount of data (or packets) the server can send as a reset needs
to be smaller than the amount of data that the server has received).

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The last 16 bytes of the datagram contain a Stateless Reset Token. To entities other than its intended recipient, a stateless reset will appear -to be a packet with a short header. For the packet to appear as valid, the -Unpredictable Bits field needs to include at least 198 bits of data (or 25 -bytes, less the two fixed bits). This is intended to allow for a Destination -Connection ID of the maximum length permitted, with a minimal packet number, and -payload. The Stateless Reset Token corresponds to the minimum expansion of the +to be a packet with a short header. For the stateless reset to appear as a +valid QUIC packet and be smaller than the received packet, the Unpredictable Needing "at least 48 bits" isn't a requirement to "be smaller than the received packet." This addition doesn't compute. > @@ -2389,11 +2389,17 @@ of bytes following it that are set to unpredictable values. The last 16 bytes of the datagram contain a Stateless Reset Token. To entities other than its intended recipient, a stateless reset will appear -to be a packet with a short header. For the packet to appear as valid, the -Unpredictable Bits field needs to include at least 198 bits of data (or 25 -bytes, less the two fixed bits). This is intended to allow for a Destination -Connection ID of the maximum length permitted, with a minimal packet number, and -payload. The Stateless Reset Token corresponds to the minimum expansion of the +to be a packet with a short header. For the stateless reset to appear as a +valid QUIC packet and be smaller than the received packet, the Unpredictable +Bits field needs to include at least 48 bits of data (or 6 bytes, less the +two fixed bits). To ensure the stateless reset packet is not smaller than +other packets received on the connection, an endpoint SHOULD also ensure the +total packet length is at least the minimum chosen CID length + 22 bytes. 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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2389,11 +2389,17 @@ of bytes following it that are set to unpredictable values.  The last 16 bytes
 of the datagram contain a Stateless Reset Token.
 
 To entities other than its intended recipient, a stateless reset will appear
-to be a packet with a short header.  For the packet to appear as valid, the
-Unpredictable Bits field needs to include at least 198 bits of data (or 25
-bytes, less the two fixed bits).  This is intended to allow for a Destination
-Connection ID of the maximum length permitted, with a minimal packet number, and
-payload.  The Stateless Reset Token corresponds to the minimum expansion of the
+to be a packet with a short header.  For the stateless reset to appear as a
+valid QUIC packet and be smaller than the received packet, the Unpredictable

Needing "at least 48 bits" isn't a requirement to "be smaller than the received packet." This addition doesn't compute.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2389,11 +2389,17 @@ of bytes following it that are set to unpredictable values.  The last 16 bytes
 of the datagram contain a Stateless Reset Token.
 
 To entities other than its intended recipient, a stateless reset will appear
-to be a packet with a short header.  For the packet to appear as valid, the
-Unpredictable Bits field needs to include at least 198 bits of data (or 25
-bytes, less the two fixed bits).  This is intended to allow for a Destination
-Connection ID of the maximum length permitted, with a minimal packet number, and
-payload.  The Stateless Reset Token corresponds to the minimum expansion of the
+to be a packet with a short header.  For the stateless reset to appear as a
+valid QUIC packet and be smaller than the received packet, the Unpredictable
+Bits field needs to include at least 48 bits of data (or 6 bytes, less the
+two fixed bits).  To ensure the stateless reset packet is not smaller than
+other packets received on the connection, an endpoint SHOULD also ensure the
+total packet length is at least the minimum chosen CID length + 22 bytes.

Defer to @martinthomson on the styling, but perhaps spell out "plus" here.

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In +this appendix, we provide an informal description of the desired security +properties as an aid to implementors and to help guide protocol analysis. + +We cover properties of the handshake, general transport, and migration +separately. ...and perhaps file an issue for that other use of "we." > + +An on-path attacker is present between the QUIC client and server, and an +endpoint is required to send packets through this attacker to establish +connectivity on a given path. + +An on-path attacker can: + +- Inspect packets +- Modify unencrypted packet headers +- Inject new packets +- Delay packets +- Drop packets + +An on-path attacker cannot: + +- Modify encrypted packet payloads Well, they can, but the packets will no longer be accepted as valid, which is part of this threat model and mitigation. Also, you don't discuss the unencrypted, but authenticated, portions of the headers. Perhaps you should frame the capabilities in terms of what they can do to authenticated portions of the packet, and note that the payload is both encrypted *and* authenticated? > +or other methods. + +2. An on-path attacker can prevent migration to a new path for which the +attacker is also on-path by causing path validation to fail on the new path. + +3. An on-path attacker cannot prevent a client from migrating to a path for +which the attacker is not on-path. + +4. An on-path attacker can reduce the throughput of a connection by delaying +packets or dropping them. + + +### Off-Path Attacker + +An off-path attacker is not directly on the path between the QUIC client and +server, but is able to obtain copies of all packets sent between the client and Perhaps change this to "may be able to obtain copies of some or all packets sent between the client and the server"? Certainly there are subclasses of off-path attackers who see no traffic (inject-only) or who get only a partial view (e.g. eavesdropping on only one direction, one path, etc.). > +- Delay packets +- Drop packets + +An off-path attacker can, however, modify packets that it has observed and +inject them back into the network, potentially with spoofed source and +destination addresses. + +For the purposes of this discussion, we assume that an off-path attacker has the +ability to observe, modify, and re-inject a packet into the network that will +reach the destination endpoint prior to the arrival of the original packet +observed by the attacker. In other words, the attacker has the ability to +consistently "win" a race with the legitimate packets between the endpoints, +potentially causing the original packet to be ignored by the recipient. + +We also assume that the attacker has the resources necessary to affect NAT +state, potentially both causing an endpoint to lose its NAT binding, and an Pick "the" or "an" here. Jumping back and forth is throwing me; if there's a pattern, I'm not able to intuit it. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2925#pullrequestreview-267821344 ----==_mimepart_5d3f071ab99fe_69b53f7e394cd960548a4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -5753,13 +5753,184 @@ DecodePacketNumber(largest_pn, truncated_pn, pn_nbits):
    return candidate_pn
 ~~~
 
+# Overview of Security Properties {#security-properties}
+
+A complete security analysis of QUIC is outside the scope of this document.  In
+this appendix, we provide an informal description of the desired security
+properties as an aid to implementors and to help guide protocol analysis.
+
+We cover properties of the handshake, general transport, and migration
+separately.

...and perhaps file an issue for that other use of "we."

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+An on-path attacker is present between the QUIC client and server, and an
+endpoint is required to send packets through this attacker to establish
+connectivity on a given path.
+
+An on-path attacker can:
+
+- Inspect packets
+- Modify unencrypted packet headers
+- Inject new packets
+- Delay packets
+- Drop packets
+
+An on-path attacker cannot:
+
+- Modify encrypted packet payloads

Well, they can, but the packets will no longer be accepted as valid, which is part of this threat model and mitigation. Also, you don't discuss the unencrypted, but authenticated, portions of the headers. Perhaps you should frame the capabilities in terms of what they can do to authenticated portions of the packet, and note that the payload is both encrypted and authenticated?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +or other methods.
+
+2. An on-path attacker can prevent migration to a new path for which the
+attacker is also on-path by causing path validation to fail on the new path.
+
+3. An on-path attacker cannot prevent a client from migrating to a path for
+which the attacker is not on-path.
+
+4. An on-path attacker can reduce the throughput of a connection by delaying
+packets or dropping them.
+
+
+### Off-Path Attacker
+
+An off-path attacker is not directly on the path between the QUIC client and
+server, but is able to obtain copies of all packets sent between the client and

Perhaps change this to "may be able to obtain copies of some or all packets sent between the client and the server"? Certainly there are subclasses of off-path attackers who see no traffic (inject-only) or who get only a partial view (e.g. eavesdropping on only one direction, one path, etc.).

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +- Delay packets
+- Drop packets
+
+An off-path attacker can, however, modify packets that it has observed and
+inject them back into the network, potentially with spoofed source and
+destination addresses.
+
+For the purposes of this discussion, we assume that an off-path attacker has the
+ability to observe, modify, and re-inject a packet into the network that will
+reach the destination endpoint prior to the arrival of the original packet
+observed by the attacker.  In other words, the attacker has the ability to
+consistently "win" a race with the legitimate packets between the endpoints,
+potentially causing the original packet to be ignored by the recipient.
+
+We also assume that the attacker has the resources necessary to affect NAT
+state, potentially both causing an endpoint to lose its NAT binding, and an

Pick "the" or "an" here. Jumping back and forth is throwing me; if there's a pattern, I'm not able to intuit it.

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I think there's a compelling argument to be made for "HTTP Priorities" as a header that can traverse various versions and potentially be cached with a response. HTTP/2 and HTTP/3 don't define any new headers, because headers are part of the semantic layer. It seems to me like the paths we can choose are:

  • Define "HTTP Priorities" in a separate draft, containing a header for initial values (and optionally frame(s) for mid-response reprioritization)
  • Define a new HTTP/3 frame to carry priorities in the current draft
  • Define a negotiation mechanism to select a priority scheme in the current draft; these scheme might involve frames or headers.

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But because the server cannot tell if the packet were to be identified by the 4-tuple or the CID (because you no longer have state!), the server needs to send two stateless reset packets, one generated using the 4-tuple as the key, and the other generated using the CID.

This is a good point that Stateless Reset must also be considered. In case that the server can identify a certain population of clients (10.0.0.0/8) as not needing migration, it can also identify which clients to send what kind of Stateless Reset.

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson requested changes on this pull request. One calculation error to fix, and some editorial suggestions. > @@ -2389,11 +2389,17 @@ of bytes following it that are set to unpredictable values. The last 16 bytes of the datagram contain a Stateless Reset Token. To entities other than its intended recipient, a stateless reset will appear -to be a packet with a short header. For the packet to appear as valid, the -Unpredictable Bits field needs to include at least 198 bits of data (or 25 -bytes, less the two fixed bits). This is intended to allow for a Destination -Connection ID of the maximum length permitted, with a minimal packet number, and -payload. The Stateless Reset Token corresponds to the minimum expansion of the +to be a packet with a short header. For the stateless reset to appear as a +valid QUIC packet and be smaller than the received packet, the Unpredictable +Bits field needs to include at least 48 bits of data (or 6 bytes, less the ```suggestion Bits field needs to include at least 46 bits of data (or 6 bytes, less the ``` > @@ -2389,11 +2389,17 @@ of bytes following it that are set to unpredictable values. The last 16 bytes of the datagram contain a Stateless Reset Token. To entities other than its intended recipient, a stateless reset will appear -to be a packet with a short header. For the packet to appear as valid, the -Unpredictable Bits field needs to include at least 198 bits of data (or 25 -bytes, less the two fixed bits). This is intended to allow for a Destination -Connection ID of the maximum length permitted, with a minimal packet number, and -payload. The Stateless Reset Token corresponds to the minimum expansion of the +to be a packet with a short header. For the stateless reset to appear as a +valid QUIC packet and be smaller than the received packet, the Unpredictable +Bits field needs to include at least 48 bits of data (or 6 bytes, less the +two fixed bits). To ensure the stateless reset packet is not smaller than +other packets received on the connection, an endpoint SHOULD also ensure the +total packet length is at least the minimum chosen CID length + 22 bytes. ```suggestion total packet length is at least the minimum chosen CID length plus 22 bytes. ``` > @@ -2389,11 +2389,17 @@ of bytes following it that are set to unpredictable values. The last 16 bytes of the datagram contain a Stateless Reset Token. To entities other than its intended recipient, a stateless reset will appear -to be a packet with a short header. For the packet to appear as valid, the -Unpredictable Bits field needs to include at least 198 bits of data (or 25 -bytes, less the two fixed bits). This is intended to allow for a Destination -Connection ID of the maximum length permitted, with a minimal packet number, and -payload. The Stateless Reset Token corresponds to the minimum expansion of the +to be a packet with a short header. For the stateless reset to appear as a +valid QUIC packet and be smaller than the received packet, the Unpredictable +Bits field needs to include at least 48 bits of data (or 6 bytes, less the +two fixed bits). To ensure the stateless reset packet is not smaller than +other packets received on the connection, an endpoint SHOULD also ensure the +total packet length is at least the minimum chosen CID length + 22 bytes. +22 bytes allows for 1 type byte, 4 packet number and data bytes, the +16 byte authentication tag, and the one extra byte to allow the peer to ```suggestion 16 bytes for AEAD expansion, and an extra byte to allow the peer to ``` > @@ -2389,11 +2389,17 @@ of bytes following it that are set to unpredictable values. The last 16 bytes of the datagram contain a Stateless Reset Token. To entities other than its intended recipient, a stateless reset will appear -to be a packet with a short header. For the packet to appear as valid, the -Unpredictable Bits field needs to include at least 198 bits of data (or 25 -bytes, less the two fixed bits). This is intended to allow for a Destination -Connection ID of the maximum length permitted, with a minimal packet number, and -payload. The Stateless Reset Token corresponds to the minimum expansion of the +to be a packet with a short header. For the stateless reset to appear as a +valid QUIC packet and be smaller than the received packet, the Unpredictable +Bits field needs to include at least 48 bits of data (or 6 bytes, less the +two fixed bits). To ensure the stateless reset packet is not smaller than +other packets received on the connection, an endpoint SHOULD also ensure the +total packet length is at least the minimum chosen CID length + 22 bytes. +22 bytes allows for 1 type byte, 4 packet number and data bytes, the ```suggestion 22 bytes allows for 1 type byte, 4 packet number and data bytes, ``` > @@ -2389,11 +2389,17 @@ of bytes following it that are set to unpredictable values. The last 16 bytes of the datagram contain a Stateless Reset Token. To entities other than its intended recipient, a stateless reset will appear -to be a packet with a short header. For the packet to appear as valid, the -Unpredictable Bits field needs to include at least 198 bits of data (or 25 -bytes, less the two fixed bits). This is intended to allow for a Destination -Connection ID of the maximum length permitted, with a minimal packet number, and -payload. The Stateless Reset Token corresponds to the minimum expansion of the +to be a packet with a short header. For the stateless reset to appear as a +valid QUIC packet and be smaller than the received packet, the Unpredictable What Mike said. I think that you want to say: > A stateless reset MUST include an Unpredictable Bits field of at least 38 bits (or 5 bytes, less the two fixed bits). However, this does not account for the length of the connection ID chosen by a peer, which is not known by the endpoint sending a stateless reset. For a stateless reset to appear to be a valid QUIC packet, the packet needs to appear to contain one type byte, a minimum-sized connection ID, four bytes of packet number and payload, and the AEAD expansion. In order to ensure that a stateless reset is smaller than the packet that triggers it, an endpoint needs to send a packet that is one byte longer than the minimum stateless reset size. Therefore, endpoints SHOULD always send packets that are at least 22 bytes larger than the minimum connection ID that they might select. > >These calculations assume a 16 byte AEAD expansion. Smaller packets can be sent if the AEAD expansion is less than 16 bytes and larger packets need to be sent for a larger expansion. > @@ -2367,7 +2367,7 @@ following layout: 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ -|0|1| Unpredictable Bits (198..) ... +|0|1| Unpredictable Bits (46 ..) ... ```suggestion |0|1| Unpredictable Bits (38 ..) ... ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2927#pullrequestreview-268080997 ----==_mimepart_5d3f7d1c79982_1c803fd07e6cd96c791fc Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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I'm currently working on an implementation of the protocol and have juste realized the changes in the last draft of RFC about the DCIL and SCIL.
Reading the changes, I noticed that the DCID Len didn't change in the draft, opposed to the SCID Len, which doesn't seem rigth :
"DCID Len: The byte following the version contains the lengths of the two connection ID fields that follow it. These lengths are encoded as two 4-bit unsigned integers. The Destination
Connection ID Length (DCIL) field occupies the 4 high bits of the byte and the Source Connection ID Length (SCIL) field occupies the 4 low bits of the byte. An encoded length of 0 indicates that the connection ID is also 0 bytes in length. Non-zero encoded lengths
are increased by 3 to get the full length of the connection ID, producing a length between 4 and 18 bytes inclusive. For example, a byte with the value 0x50 describes an 8-byte Destination
Connection ID and a zero-length Source Connection ID."
Is it an omission of change or have I missed something?

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This is the most naive solution to issue #2892. It can be used as a base line until someone comes up with something more elegant.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2933

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  • Modify pseudo-code to enforce that zero must be encoded as zero.

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I'd like to second @ekr's comment at the mic. I don=E2=80=99t thin= k this is an issue for which we need text. Without loss of generality, le= t=E2=80=99s assume that in the worst case an attacker learns the entire u= nprotected header bytes for every packet. (That is, that header protectio= n does nothing overwhelmingly helpful.) Revisiting the header protection = algorithm, it basically works as follows:

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H=E2=80=99 =3D H XOR mask=0D
     =3D H XOR PRP(hp_key, sample)=0D
=0D

where H=E2=80=99 and H are the protected and unprotected header bytes,= respectively, and sample is known to the adversary. If we assume mask is= the output of a PRP, and therefore both IND-CPA secure and KPA secure, a= n adversary learns nothing from known plaintext and ciphertext pairs. (Th= e typical game-based IND-CPA security definition says that an adversary w= ith access to an oracle for encrypting any message M_i of its choice has = negligible probability in selecting b, upon giving the challenger M_0 and= M_1 and receiving an encryption of M_b. Recovering the header protection= key would break this assumption, as it would let the adversary encrypt M= _0 and M_1 -- without the oracle -- and trivially match against M_b.)

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All that said, adding text describing that endpoints should precompute= keys is probably fine. I=E2=80=99m just not sure it=E2=80=99s needed her= e.

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Not

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In my mind Base is an index, so it should point to an entry (relative index 0 means the entry with absolute index one fewer than Base, post-base index 0 means the same entry as Base). Required Insert Count is a counter, not an index, so it does not belong on figures.

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  • Emphasize that SETTINGS_QPACK_BLOCKED_STREAMS is set by the decoder.
  • Move normative sentence on decoder encountering excessive number of blocked streams to this paragraph.
  • Split note to separate paragraph.

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The definition of a blocking entry has two parts: insertion not acknowledged, or not all references acknowledged. Update text in two places to include the part about acknowledging the insertion, lest a reader forget about it.

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  • Use more uniform language in description of instructions: "begin" instead of "start" everywhere (arbitrarily, but make it consistent); "follows" instead of "includes" or implicit mention of a field.
  • Prefer internal references to external ones, also elsewhere.
  • Prefer "instruction" to "representation" in low-level contexts focusing on wire format, but not in higher-level contexts.
  • Avoid undefined term "header block representation" when it is used to mean "header block".
  • Explicitly allow a header block to not have any instructions after the mandatory prefix.
  • Refer to Literal Header Field With Name Reference section in Literal Header Field Without Name Reference instead of verbatim repeating text on 'N' bit.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

>  The following bit, 'N', indicates whether an intermediary is permitted to add
 this header to the dynamic header table on subsequent hops. When the 'N' bit is
-set, the encoded header MUST always be encoded with a literal representation. In
-particular, when a peer sends a header field that it received represented as a
-literal header field with the 'N' bit set, it MUST use a literal representation
-to forward this header field.  This bit is intended for protecting header field

The sentence starting with "In particular" does not seem to add any value, therefore I propose removing it.

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Add MUST to sentence about requirement on decoder to emit a Header Acknowledgement instruction every time it decodes a header block with non-zero Required Insert Count.

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Since post-base index has a section separate from relative index, I do not consider post-base index a type of relative index, but a distinct category. Update text accordingly.

If the consensus is that this is not the case, relative index and post-base index sections should be reworded, and a new term should be introduced for non-post-base relative index.

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Sorry, let me reword this.

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@LPardue commented on this pull request.

I think these changes are good. They address an editorial annoyance I had but never got around to suggesting a fix.

Alan may have something to say about the change to Represetnation, because that was introduced fairly recently.

In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -170,13 +170,13 @@ decoder and vice versa.
 
 An encoder converts a header list into a header block by emitting either an
 indexed or a literal representation for each header field in the list (see
-{{header-block-representations}}).  Indexed representations achieve high
-compression by replacing the literal name and possibly the value with an index
-to either the static or dynamic table.  References to the static table and
-literal representations do not require any dynamic state and never risk
-head-of-line blocking.  References to the dynamic table risk head-of-line
-blocking if the encoder has not received an acknowledgement indicating the entry
-is available at the decoder.
+{{header-blocks}}).  Indexed representations achieve high compression by

header-blocks is a dangling reference , causing the build failure

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I think these changes are good. They address an editorial annoyance I had but never got around to suggesting a fix.

Alan may have something to say about the change to Represetnation, because that was introduced fairly recently.

Thanks. I have totally misunderstood "representation", so now I'm working on a new PR that includes most changes except for that one. I closed this PR in a haste to prevent people from wasting time proofreading it.

Also, thank you for pointing out the build failure to me, I did not know where to look for in the error log.

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  • Use more uniform and more specific language in description of instructions, like "follows" instead of
    "includes" or implicit mention of a field.
  • Add references to integer and string encodings where missing.
  • Prefer internal references to external ones (also in Section 1.2).
  • Explicitly allow a header block to not have any instructions after the mandatory prefix.
  • Refer to Literal Header Field With Name Reference section in Literal Header Field Without Name Reference instead of verbatim repeating text on 'N' bit.
  • Reshuffle sentences, insert references instead, remove sentences where references suffice.

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Commit Summary

  • clarify wire format

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -798,13 +804,14 @@ as a 6-bit prefix integer.  See {{state-synchronization}}.
 
 ### Insert Count Increment
 
-The Insert Count Increment instruction begins with the '00' two-bit pattern.
-The instruction specifies the total number of dynamic table inserts and
-duplications since the last Insert Count Increment or Header Acknowledgement
-that increased the Known Received Count for the dynamic table (see
-{{known-received-count}}).  The Increment field is encoded as a 6-bit prefix
-integer. The encoder uses this value to determine which table entries might
-cause a stream to become blocked, as described in {{state-synchronization}}.
+The Insert Count Increment instruction begins with the '00' two-bit pattern,
+followed by the Increment encoded as a 6-bit prefix integer.  The value of the
+Increment is the total number of dynamic table insertions and duplications
+processed by the decoder since the last time it sent a Header Acknowledgement
+instruction that increased the Known Received Count (see

I'm swapping Header Acknowledgement and Insert Count Instruction to avoid the possibility that somebody get the impression that an Insert Count Increment might not increase the Known Received Count.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -821,10 +828,13 @@ connection error of type `HTTP_QPACK_DECODER_STREAM_ERROR`.
 
 ## Header Block Representations
 
-Header blocks contain compressed representations of header lists and are carried

Representations of header lists? Representations of header fields? Also, plural hides that blocks and lists have a one-to-one correspondance. These are my motivations to reword.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

>  The following bit, 'N', indicates whether an intermediary is permitted to add
 this header to the dynamic header table on subsequent hops. When the 'N' bit is
-set, the encoded header MUST always be encoded with a literal representation. In
-particular, when a peer sends a header field that it received represented as a

I do not see any clarity or value that the "In particular.." sentence adds, it just rewords the previous sentence. I propose to remove it.

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Okay, my new proposal is at #2941.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -84,7 +84,7 @@ code and issues list for this draft can be found at
 
 The QUIC transport protocol {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}} is designed to support HTTP
 semantics, and its design subsumes many of the features of HTTP/2 {{?RFC7540}}.
-HTTP/2 uses HPACK ({{!RFC7541}}) for header compression.  If HPACK were used for

No other reference in this paragraph is enclosed in parentheses.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -192,7 +192,7 @@ while the decoder is relatively simple.
 
 An encoder MUST ensure that a header block which references a dynamic table
 entry is not processed by the decoder after the referenced entry has been
-evicted.  Hence the encoder needs to track information about each compressed

Once a header block is sent, this collection of information does not change. This makes me believe "retain" is a more fitting word than "track".

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -272,25 +270,26 @@ An encoder can decide whether to risk having a stream become blocked. If
 permitted by the value of SETTINGS_QPACK_BLOCKED_STREAMS, compression efficiency
 can often be improved by referencing dynamic table entries that are still in
 transit, but if there is loss or reordering the stream can become blocked at the
-decoder.  An encoder avoids the risk of blocking by only referencing dynamic

"Can" better expresses that the encoder has a choice.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

>  table entries which have been acknowledged, but this could mean using
 literals. Since literals make the header block larger, this can result in the
 encoder becoming blocked on congestion or flow control limits.
 
 ### Known Received Count
 
-In order to identify which dynamic table entries can be safely used without a
-stream becoming blocked, the encoder tracks the number of entries received by

Reworded to include that the decoder also needs to track the Known Received Count.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

>  
-When blocking references are permitted, the encoder uses Header Acknowledgement
-instructions ({{header-acknowledgement}}) to maintain the Known Received
-Count.  If a header block was potentially blocking, the acknowledgement implies
-that the decoder has received all dynamic table state necessary to process the
-header block.  If the Required Insert Count of an acknowledged header block was
-greater than the encoder's current Known Received Count, the block's Required
-Insert Count becomes the new Known Received Count.

"the block's Required Insert Count becomes the new Known Received Count" always trips me: does the value of the Required Insert Count change to the value of the Known Received Count, or does the value of the Required Insert Count became to be known as the new value of the Known Received Count?

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -430,12 +431,9 @@ Dynamic table entries can have empty values.
 
 The size of the dynamic table is the sum of the size of its entries.
 
-The size of an entry is the sum of its name's length in bytes (as defined in
-{{string-literals}}), its value's length in bytes, and 32.

The reference to {{string-literals}} here is misleading, because length in that section can mean length after Huffman encoding.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -445,19 +443,23 @@ encoder sends a Set Dynamic Table Capacity instruction
 ({{set-dynamic-capacity}}) with a non-zero capacity to begin using the dynamic
 table.
 
-Before a new entry is added to the dynamic table, entries are evicted from the

I am not aware of any reason the specs need to require an implementation to evict first, then add. Spelling out a choice also allows the caution on use-after-free to be restricted to one of the two methods.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -477,28 +479,27 @@ it can choose to use a lower dynamic table capacity (see
 
 For clients using 0-RTT data in HTTP/3, the server's maximum table capacity is
 the remembered value of the setting, or zero if the value was not previously
-sent.  When the client's 0-RTT value of the SETTING is 0, the server MAY set it

To me, zero looks better written in numbers, especially with that many occurrences of "non-zero" in the same section.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -586,8 +588,10 @@ d = count of entries dropped
 ### Prefixed Integers
 
 The prefixed integer from Section 5.1 of [RFC7541] is used heavily throughout
-this document.  The format from [RFC7541] is used unmodified.  QPACK
-implementations MUST be able to decode integers up to 62 bits long.
+this document.  The format from [RFC7541] is used unmodified.  Note, however,
+that QPACK uses some prefix sizes not actually used in HPACK.

I was actually tripped by this when re-using the HPACK implementation, because that had DCHECKs on prefix length that restricted it to values that occur in HPACK. And of course there was no test coverage for other prefixes. In particular, (3+) and (8+) occur in the current QPACK draft but not in RFC7541.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -627,14 +632,14 @@ type HTTP_WRONG_STREAM_COUNT. These streams MUST NOT be closed. Closure of
 either unidirectional stream type MUST be treated as a connection error of type
 HTTP_CLOSED_CRITICAL_STREAM.
 
-An endpoint MAY avoid creating its own encoder stream if it's not going to be

I do not have the impression that HTTP/3 defines ownership of unidirectional streams, but "create" is unambiguous anyway.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -627,14 +632,14 @@ type HTTP_WRONG_STREAM_COUNT. These streams MUST NOT be closed. Closure of
 either unidirectional stream type MUST be treated as a connection error of type
 HTTP_CLOSED_CRITICAL_STREAM.
 
-An endpoint MAY avoid creating its own encoder stream if it's not going to be
-used (for example if the endpoint doesn't wish to use the dynamic table, or if

Each endpoint has two contexts and each context has a dynamic table, so it's better to clarify which one.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

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I find that ownership of a dynamic table, while not necessarily ambiguous, is at least undefined.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

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"both encoder and decoder streams" might give the reader the impression that there could be multiple of each.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -741,20 +746,16 @@ the existing entry is represented as an integer with a 5-bit prefix.
 ~~~~~~~~~~
 {:#fig-index-with-duplication title="Duplicate"}
 
-The existing entry is re-inserted into the dynamic table without resending
-either the name or the value. This is useful to mitigate the eviction of older

I find "mitigate the eviction" confusing.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

>  
 
 ## Decoder Instructions {#decoder-instructions}
 
-Decoder instructions provide information used to ensure consistency of the

I propose to change this paragraph to match the first paragraph of Encoder Instructions section.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

>  
 
 ## Decoder Instructions {#decoder-instructions}
 
-Decoder instructions provide information used to ensure consistency of the
-dynamic table. They are sent from the decoder to the encoder on a decoder
-stream; that is, the server informs the client about the processing of the

This discussion of client and server seems out of place. If it is really necessary, Section 2 might be a better place to talk about the two contexts and how both endpoint needs to have an encoder and a decoder.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -814,7 +815,7 @@ cause a stream to become blocked, as described in {{state-synchronization}}.
 ~~~~~~~~~~
 {:#fig-size-sync title="Insert Count Increment"}
 
-An encoder that receives an Increment field equal to zero or one that increases

"zero or one" gets the reader's brain in the wrong groove.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -830,10 +831,8 @@ modifying it.
 
 Each header block is prefixed with two integers.  The Required Insert Count is
 encoded as an integer with an 8-bit prefix after the encoding described in
-{{ric}}).  The Base is encoded as sign-and-modulus integer, using a single sign

A cursory web search shows that "sign-and-magnitude" is used a lot more often than "sign-and-modulus", which might conjure images of modulo arithmetic. I propose not to put a name on this encoding, since there's an off-by-one that's not common for sign-and-modulus representations anyway.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -937,11 +939,11 @@ entries, the Base will be greater than the Required Insert Count, so the delta
 will be positive and the sign bit is set to 0.
 
 An encoder that produces table updates before encoding a header block might set
-Required Insert Count and the Base to the same value.  In such case, both the

Rewording to emphasize that the encoder has very limited freedom in what to set Required Insert Count to.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -993,7 +993,7 @@ field, represented as an integer with a 4-bit prefix (see Section 5.1 of
 
 ### Literal Header Field With Name Reference {#literal-name-reference}
 
-A literal header field with a name reference represents a header where the

Removing "a" to be consistent with subsection title.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -1119,7 +1119,7 @@ HTTP_QPACK_DECODER_STREAM_ERROR (0x202):
 
 # Security Considerations
 
-TBD.
+TBD.  Also see Section 7.1 of [RFC7541].

This allows the reference to Section 7.1 in Literal Header Field With Name Reference section be replaced with an internal reference to this section.

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Just an editorial fix.

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  • Update the PreferredAddress structure to accomodate a 20 byte CID.

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----==_mimepart_5d41d98586442_7e843f872d8cd9641586d1-- From nobody Wed Jul 31 11:14:49 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBB411206B8 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2019 11:14:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Urh8r3uvOwVp for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2019 11:14:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 139961206AD for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2019 11:14:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 11:14:38 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1564596878; bh=fDuo6ayH1xFjrZ0KqOCEVwSvYPP74G8uO/I2wtz/v0o=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=cLtRqHNYbGGHKc8F347VBS9JvaDVcigqbOOJfRlko92uQgOraClSLNo2vU6GrvrgQ wUGA3JteB83GOwVjWS7+L89Hoa6pVjre7bsMsz9ebED6Ni+xPxxvJThCCeaisqY6ow se8OEVUfzdI2ctLzoKIKNHV8TJsHhWdpYxV2YhGc= From: Rui Paulo Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Layout of PreferredAddress (#2944) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d41da8e5c59c_273c3fb0b0acd96014239b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: rpaulo X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 18:14:47 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d41da8e5c59c_273c3fb0b0acd96014239b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The PreferredAddress structure has a variable length field right in the middle of it. Since the CID is the only variable length field, we could make it slightly easier to implement by moving the CID to the end: ``` struct { opaque ipv4Address[4]; uint16 ipv4Port; opaque ipv6Address[16]; uint16 ipv6Port; opaque statelessResetToken[16]; opaque connectionId<0..18>; } PreferredAddress; ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2944 ----==_mimepart_5d41da8e5c59c_273c3fb0b0acd96014239b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The PreferredAddress structure has a variable length field right in the middle of it. Since the CID is the only variable length field, we could make it slightly easier to implement by moving the CID to the end:

  struct {
     opaque ipv4Address[4];
     uint16 ipv4Port;
     opaque ipv6Address[16];
     uint16 ipv6Port;
     opaque statelessResetToken[16];
     opaque connectionId<0..18>;
   } PreferredAddress;

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This doesn't allow for a delay in sending an ack. That delay might be useful in reducing overheads. That might be a new issue though.

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This doesn't allow for a delay in sending an ack. That delay might be useful in reducing overheads. That might be a new issue though.

That's a good point, I haven't thought about it. Would changing "When the decoder finishes decoding..." to "After the decoder finishes decoding..." be sufficient to allow for delayed ACKs?

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Works for me.

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  • a0ca80b Change "when" to "after" to allow for delayed acknowledgements that might reduce overheads.

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Works for me.

Done. Thanks for raising this issue.

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----==_mimepart_5d422df998f63_717b3ff0d14cd9643249d6-- From nobody Wed Jul 31 19:01:14 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94743120131 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2019 19:01:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Jc66H_hOJF42 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2019 19:01:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6FC0C12010C for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2019 19:01:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 19:01:09 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1564624869; bh=UFhEJ3F0YP5eJeflrCt5CGem49iJ0+xEkB4CQc2kIVc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=oAXkKwILdfCoJ8gETFZ1z+7Fh8rDOxHJl7EjkuUT8SiDlAaRWSI564XejL1Ghhg/k DYzl83XsP6CGYs4+6ck5yb+6wyPayOromrQiZzuNcMUySPueAX3Rfse1GxjqTkJN6x mMtxctm/smewAaMYAmomsf9Hskrz3fT0Bn9eO78k= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] When to send the SETTINGS frame (#2945) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d4247e55afcc_4d583ff3f74cd96818097"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2019 02:01:13 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d4247e55afcc_4d583ff3f74cd96818097 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It seems that there are disagreement among the implementors, regarding when the SETTINGS frame need to be sent. Some argue that it needs to be sent right after the handshake, even if the SETTINGS frame would contain no parameters. Some argue that it can be delayed, until the need to send something on the control stream arises. I think we should clarify the expected behavior. FWIW, existing text that refers to the topic are: [section 3.3](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-http.html#rfc.section.3.3): > After the QUIC connection is established, a SETTINGS frame (Section 7.2.5) MUST be sent by each endpoint as the initial frame of their respective HTTP control stream (see Section 6.2.1) [section 6.2.1](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-http.html#rfc.section.6.2.1): > Each side MUST initiate a single control stream at the beginning of the connection and send its SETTINGS frame as the first frame on this stream. [section 7.2.5](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-http.html#rfc.section.7.2.5): > SETTINGS frames always apply to a connection, never a single stream. A SETTINGS frame MUST be sent as the first frame of each control stream (see Section 6.2.1) by each peer, and MUST NOT be sent subsequently. cc @DavidSchinazi @LPardue @rmarx -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2945 ----==_mimepart_5d4247e55afcc_4d583ff3f74cd96818097 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

It seems that there are disagreement among the implementors, regarding when the SETTINGS frame need to be sent.

Some argue that it needs to be sent right after the handshake, even if the SETTINGS frame would contain no parameters. Some argue that it can be delayed, until the need to send something on the control stream arises.

I think we should clarify the expected behavior.

FWIW, existing text that refers to the topic are:
section 3.3:

After the QUIC connection is established, a SETTINGS frame (Section 7.2.5) MUST be sent by each endpoint as the initial frame of their respective HTTP control stream (see Section 6.2.1)

section 6.2.1:

Each side MUST initiate a single control stream at the beginning of the connection and send its SETTINGS frame as the first frame on this stream.

section 7.2.5:

SETTINGS frames always apply to a connection, never a single stream. A SETTINGS frame MUST be sent as the first frame of each control stream (see Section 6.2.1) by each peer, and MUST NOT be sent subsequently.

cc @DavidSchinazi @LPardue @rmarx

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----==_mimepart_5d4247e55afcc_4d583ff3f74cd96818097-- From nobody Wed Jul 31 19:06:14 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FFBF12010C for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2019 19:06:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8vui2Qm2gaaq for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2019 19:06:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C8C6F120132 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2019 19:06:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 19:06:10 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1564625170; bh=HOTCNVZLQnqjhqIKc8QiFICknNrYYJrwHcEVGCld9UM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=OlEJxOuz1EWn1UmQdAYHAP90cAFy5PSIJ/ONSfqZSyLCG+zGyhJpW3ok8szDocCEo 7WyVDcB2Oa3jwj68jsJgk0hPC6J4BggsDVP/S+tZzIgJpElhbXt7P/mE/EgBl8xo5q xsz9z00N7O8ideqkv6nlYV92GxRb0rbO7l+U5xrg= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When to send the SETTINGS frame (#2945) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d424912bf554_7bfd3faf244cd96c1387e3"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2019 02:06:14 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d424912bf554_7bfd3faf244cd96c1387e3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My two cents go to requiring the frame to be sent immediately after the handshake. IIRC, we discussed the issue long ago, and IIRC the consensus was that clients "can" wait for the server's SETTINGS frame before sending requests. Doing so improves the efficiency of QPACK for example, assuming that the server supports the use of dynamic table. Generally speaking, I think it is preferable to be able to learn about the capabilities of the peer at the earliest moment. OTOH, I do not think there is a compelling reason to postpone sending SETTINGS frame. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2945#issuecomment-517088885 ----==_mimepart_5d424912bf554_7bfd3faf244cd96c1387e3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

My two cents go to requiring the frame to be sent immediately after the handshake. IIRC, we discussed the issue long ago, and IIRC the consensus was that clients "can" wait for the server's SETTINGS frame before sending requests. Doing so improves the efficiency of QPACK for example, assuming that the server supports the use of dynamic table.

Generally speaking, I think it is preferable to be able to learn about the capabilities of the peer at the earliest moment. OTOH, I do not think there is a compelling reason to postpone sending SETTINGS frame.

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----==_mimepart_5d424912bf554_7bfd3faf244cd96c1387e3-- From nobody Wed Jul 31 20:48:17 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D07D120136 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2019 20:48:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id T9ylk-ghTXeo for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2019 20:48:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BDA8A120137 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2019 20:48:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 20:48:12 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1564631292; bh=V8h+zl2bRQefi6GX97vtB6fyMlV+W3qDPUf/CMMbDjw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=0K8ZbvNOMaPqabEZNkD6HyYnBlndq4Ul340q8DnAlsNB6VwJWtnA1C6e56vblwYqI a+yQy+L0Vw5vQFjaYmY/Ul6k46D6zXhxCFZKM4DFD7TKu784fW75mQWAERfz+x26rf XPXifku9zMtc+Vr2XUxVjja7wOdKwSe6aUW99mbM= From: Luca Niccolini Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When to send the SETTINGS frame (#2945) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5d4260fcb128b_7cdf3ff2bd0cd95c111081"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: lnicco X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2019 03:48:16 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5d4260fcb128b_7cdf3ff2bd0cd95c111081 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree with you and I vote for sending SETTINGS as soon as possible right after handshake. I want to warn you though that this does not prevent an implementor to chose something different since for how the protocol is designed -- after we removed waiting for receiving SETTINGS to send a request -- everything will keep working. As you said it would just be in a non-optimal state: i.e. without the ability to use the QPACK dynamic table and without GOAWAY. This is in fact something we never thoroughly test at interop since we only send a single request on a single stream and stop there. As a sad/clowny story, we had a bug once where both endpoints would fail at reading from all unidirectional streams. It was so subtle that everything keep working fine, just no compression and no graceful shutdown. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2945#issuecomment-517107263 ----==_mimepart_5d4260fcb128b_7cdf3ff2bd0cd95c111081 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I agree with you and I vote for sending SETTINGS as soon as possible right after handshake.

I want to warn you though that this does not prevent an implementor to chose something different since for how the protocol is designed -- after we removed waiting for receiving SETTINGS to send a request -- everything will keep working. As you said it would just be in a non-optimal state: i.e. without the ability to use the QPACK dynamic table and without GOAWAY.

This is in fact something we never thoroughly test at interop since we only send a single request on a single stream and stop there.

As a sad/clowny story, we had a bug once where both endpoints would fail at reading from all unidirectional streams. It was so subtle that everything keep working fine, just no compression and no graceful shutdown.

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