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I'm ok with SHOULD send immediately, but as Luca said, I don't think we can enforce this any more than we already are, so I believe implementations should function relatively well without receiving SETTINGS.

The only way to force people to send SETTINGS immediately would be to make them part of the handshake(ie: put them in transport parameters).

There's a somewhat related issue about 0-RTT and SETTINGS: #2790

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<p>I'm ok with SHOULD send immediately, but as Luca said, I don't think we can enforce this any more than we already are, so I believe implementations should function relatively well without receiving SETTINGS.</p>
<p>The only way to force people to send SETTINGS immediately would be to make them part of the handshake(ie: put them in transport parameters).</p>
<p>There's a somewhat related issue about 0-RTT and SETTINGS: <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="455976018" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2790" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2790/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2790">#2790</a></p>

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Here's a wild thought that probably won't help; if we go ahead with removing priorities from H3 then the only defined SETTINGS parameters relate to HTTP headers:

HTTP_MAX_HEADER_LIST_SIZE
SETTINGS_QPACK_MAX_TABLE_CAPACITY
SETTINGS_QPACK_BLOCKED_STREAMS

Since we have control streams to manage QPACK, a total design change would make the above parameters part of the head of the encoder or decoder stream. 

This affects 0-rtt considerations and likely has other ripple effects. 

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<p>Here's a wild thought that probably won't help; if we go ahead with removing priorities from H3 then the only defined SETTINGS parameters relate to HTTP headers:</p>
<p>HTTP_MAX_HEADER_LIST_SIZE<br>
SETTINGS_QPACK_MAX_TABLE_CAPACITY<br>
SETTINGS_QPACK_BLOCKED_STREAMS</p>
<p>Since we have control streams to manage QPACK, a total design change would make the above parameters part of the head of the encoder or decoder stream.</p>
<p>This affects 0-rtt considerations and likely has other ripple effects.</p>

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> Since we have control streams to manage QPACK, a **total design change** would make the above parameters part of the head of the encoder or decoder stream.

You're making me nervous.

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<p>Since we have control streams to manage QPACK, a <strong>total design change</strong> would make the above parameters part of the head of the encoder or decoder stream.</p>
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I agree that having SETTINGS available as early as possible is best. Even though I'm not a huge fan of the asymmetry, moving the server's SETTINGS to the server's TLS EncryptedExtensions would guarantee that clients always have them before sending their request, and make TLS session tickets easier to reason about (cc @nharper - I think this was your idea).

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<p>I agree that having SETTINGS available as early as possible is best. Even though I'm not a huge fan of the asymmetry, moving the server's SETTINGS to the server's TLS EncryptedExtensions would guarantee that clients always have them before sending their request, and make TLS session tickets easier to reason about (cc <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/hovercards?user_id=653608" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/nharper">@nharper</a> - I think this was your idea).</p>

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Google's QUIC implementation uses a TLS encoding parser so changing the order of fields would not impact our implementation complexity. I'm inclined to push back against encoding changes at this point, but I don't feel incredibly strongly here.

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<p>Google's QUIC implementation uses a TLS encoding parser so changing the order of fields would not impact our implementation complexity. I'm inclined to push back against encoding changes at this point, but I don't feel incredibly strongly here.</p>

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I think it was @davidben's idea to put SETTINGS in EncryptedExtensions, but I'm a huge fan of that idea.

If we move SETTINGS to EE, this makes it much easier for the client to handle NewSessionTickets, especially for a QUIC stack designed for multiple applications (not just HTTP/3). With SETTINGS in EE, the QUIC layer has everything it needs when it wants to cache a NST for 0-RTT resumption, whereas if it needs to wait for a SETTINGS frame sometime later in application data, it both needs to consult the application layer when it saves a NST, and the answer from the application layer could be "please wait, I don't have all of the bits I need yet".

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<p>I think it was <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/hovercards?user_id=109690" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/davidben">@davidben</a>'s idea to put SETTINGS in EncryptedExtensions, but I'm a huge fan of that idea.</p>
<p>If we move SETTINGS to EE, this makes it much easier for the client to handle NewSessionTickets, especially for a QUIC stack designed for multiple applications (not just HTTP/3). With SETTINGS in EE, the QUIC layer has everything it needs when it wants to cache a NST for 0-RTT resumption, whereas if it needs to wait for a SETTINGS frame sometime later in application data, it both needs to consult the application layer when it saves a NST, and the answer from the application layer could be "please wait, I don't have all of the bits I need yet".</p>

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I don't think the clients should be choosing whether to remember SETTINGS with tickets.

Imagine the following connections (Cn), on which NewSessionTickets (NSTn) and SETTINGS (Sn) are received in these orders:

C1: NST1, S1
C2: S2, NST2
C3: S3

NST(n) is used to do 0-RTT resumption for C(n+1), and early data is accepted by the server in all cases. The server has correctly remembered the settings that applied to the previous connection to reuse in the new connection.

If the client remembers the tickets without the corresponding settings frames, then when it opens C2, the client will assume the default SETTINGS for early data, and then use S2 for the rest of the connection. Meanwhile, the server assumed S1 for the early data, and S1+S2 for the rest of the connection. In C2, the client sees S2 before NST2, so it saves its current SETTINGS state (which is S2) with the NST. Now, when the client opens C3, it uses S2 for early data, and S2+S3 for the rest of the connection. The server's perspective of settings for C3 is that S1+S2 applies for early data, and S1+S2+S3 applies for the rest of the connection.

If the SETTINGS frame is only optionally bound to tickets, then the client and server will have differing perspectives of which settings apply to a connection. Worse, this view will continue to diverge when tickets are issued and used on resumed connections, because the SETTINGS frame received on a 0-RTT resumed connection is a delta.

The right answer is that the first (and only) SETTINGS frame is bound to tickets. This means that a ticket received before a SETTINGS frame MUST wait for the SETTINGS frame, and also means the server MUST send a SETTINGS frame (if it is going to send NSTs).

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<p>I don't think the clients should be choosing whether to remember SETTINGS with tickets.</p>
<p>Imagine the following connections (Cn), on which NewSessionTickets (NSTn) and SETTINGS (Sn) are received in these orders:</p>
<p>C1: NST1, S1<br>
C2: S2, NST2<br>
C3: S3</p>
<p>NST(n) is used to do 0-RTT resumption for C(n+1), and early data is accepted by the server in all cases. The server has correctly remembered the settings that applied to the previous connection to reuse in the new connection.</p>
<p>If the client remembers the tickets without the corresponding settings frames, then when it opens C2, the client will assume the default SETTINGS for early data, and then use S2 for the rest of the connection. Meanwhile, the server assumed S1 for the early data, and S1+S2 for the rest of the connection. In C2, the client sees S2 before NST2, so it saves its current SETTINGS state (which is S2) with the NST. Now, when the client opens C3, it uses S2 for early data, and S2+S3 for the rest of the connection. The server's perspective of settings for C3 is that S1+S2 applies for early data, and S1+S2+S3 applies for the rest of the connection.</p>
<p>If the SETTINGS frame is only optionally bound to tickets, then the client and server will have differing perspectives of which settings apply to a connection. Worse, this view will continue to diverge when tickets are issued and used on resumed connections, because the SETTINGS frame received on a 0-RTT resumed connection is a delta.</p>
<p>The right answer is that the first (and only) SETTINGS frame is bound to tickets. This means that a ticket received before a SETTINGS frame MUST wait for the SETTINGS frame, and also means the server MUST send a SETTINGS frame (if it is going to send NSTs).</p>

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@LPardue : what about extensions that use SETTINGS?  I don't think you want to completely eliminate them.

Plus what @dtikhonov said

> You're making me nervous.

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<p><a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/hovercards?user_id=6571445" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/LPardue">@LPardue</a> : what about extensions that use SETTINGS?  I don't think you want to completely eliminate them.</p>
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I think some of the H3 "SETTINGS for extension story is pretty broke" because of the removal of SETTINGS ack and other constraints.

Theres like 1 adopted H2 extension that uses settings (I'm sure theres lots of private ones too). I'm pretty sure we could replace SETTINGS_ENABLE_CONNECT with a standalone H3 control stream frame without much effort.

I'm not advocating strongly for killing SETTINGS just lobbing some grenades,

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<p>I think some of the H3 "SETTINGS for extension story is pretty broke" because of the removal of SETTINGS ack and other constraints.</p>
<p>Theres like 1 adopted H2 extension that uses settings (I'm sure theres lots of private ones too). I'm pretty sure we could replace SETTINGS_ENABLE_CONNECT with a standalone H3 control stream frame without much effort.</p>
<p>I'm not advocating strongly for killing SETTINGS just lobbing some grenades,</p>

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This PR describes how a TLS stack needs to cooperate with a QUIC stack
when making the decision whether or not to accept early data.

The purpose of this change is so that implementors working on the TLS
layer of QUIC are aware that other layers impact decisions traditionally
made at the TLS layer.
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  * Describe interaction between QUIC and TLS regarding saved 0-RTT state

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    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md (37)

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<p>This PR describes how a TLS stack needs to cooperate with a QUIC stack<br>
when making the decision whether or not to accept early data.</p>
<p>The purpose of this change is so that implementors working on the TLS<br>
layer of QUIC are aware that other layers impact decisions traditionally<br>
made at the TLS layer.</p>

<hr>

<h4>You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:</h4>
<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2947'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2947</a></p>

<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>Describe interaction between QUIC and TLS regarding saved 0-RTT state</li>
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This could potentially also update the diagram at https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-tls.html#tls-interface-summary (adding a line for the server between "Handshake Received" and "Get Handshake").

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<p>This could potentially also update the diagram at <a href="https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-tls.html#tls-interface-summary" rel="nofollow">https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-tls.html#tls-interface-summary</a> (adding a line for the server between "Handshake Received" and "Get Handshake").</p>

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DavidSchinazi commented on this pull request.



> @@ -629,6 +632,24 @@ A client MAY attempt to send 0-RTT again if it receives a Retry or Version
 Negotiation packet.  These packets do not signify rejection of 0-RTT.
 
 
+## Validating saved 0-RTT state
+
+When a server receives a ClientHello with the "early_data" extension, it has to
+decide whether to accept or rejct early data from the client. Some of this
+decision is made by the TLS stack (e.g. checking that the cipher suite being
+resumed was included in the ClientHello, see Section 4.2.10 of {{!TLS13}}). QUIC
+saves additional transport and application state in a 0-RTT session ticket, and
+imposes additional restrictions on when a server may accept early data. The TLS
+stack needs to check with the QUIC stack whether this saved state is valid for
+accepting early data.
+
+One example of such state that the QUIC stack checks when deciding whether or
+not to accept early data is the transport parameters extension. When HTTP/3
+({{QUIC-HTTP}}) is used at the application layer, the SETTINGS frame from the

I think you want an informative reference here: `{{?QUIC-HTTP}}`

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2947#discussion_r309900434">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -629,6 +632,24 @@ A client MAY attempt to send 0-RTT again if it receives a Retry or Version
 Negotiation packet.  These packets do not signify rejection of 0-RTT.
 
 
+## Validating saved 0-RTT state
+
+When a server receives a ClientHello with the &quot;early_data&quot; extension, it has to
+decide whether to accept or rejct early data from the client. Some of this
+decision is made by the TLS stack (e.g. checking that the cipher suite being
+resumed was included in the ClientHello, see Section 4.2.10 of {{!TLS13}}). QUIC
+saves additional transport and application state in a 0-RTT session ticket, and
+imposes additional restrictions on when a server may accept early data. The TLS
+stack needs to check with the QUIC stack whether this saved state is valid for
+accepting early data.
+
+One example of such state that the QUIC stack checks when deciding whether or
+not to accept early data is the transport parameters extension. When HTTP/3
+({{QUIC-HTTP}}) is used at the application layer, the SETTINGS frame from the
</pre>
<p>I think you want an informative reference here: <code>{{?QUIC-HTTP}}</code></p>

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There are a few more options here:

* When sending SETTINGS, send all values, not just the ones changed from the previous connection (i.e. don't send a delta). Once the client receives that SETTINGS frame, both sides agree on that state for the rest of the connection, but they might not agree on the SETTINGS for early data (it could be the default settings, or it could be the SETTINGS from any previous connection).
* Use the default settings for early data. Both peers will always agree on the settings state and there aren't any ordering concerns between SETTINGS and NST. However, this prevents using anything that depends on SETTINGS in early data, e.g. QPACK or future extensions. (Unless QPACK or a future extension defines some way to remember a value for early data on the next connection.)

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<p>There are a few more options here:</p>
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<li>When sending SETTINGS, send all values, not just the ones changed from the previous connection (i.e. don't send a delta). Once the client receives that SETTINGS frame, both sides agree on that state for the rest of the connection, but they might not agree on the SETTINGS for early data (it could be the default settings, or it could be the SETTINGS from any previous connection).</li>
<li>Use the default settings for early data. Both peers will always agree on the settings state and there aren't any ordering concerns between SETTINGS and NST. However, this prevents using anything that depends on SETTINGS in early data, e.g. QPACK or future extensions. (Unless QPACK or a future extension defines some way to remember a value for early data on the next connection.)</li>
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Using the defaults for early data would be unfortunate, because early(ie: 0RTT) requests are likely to want to insert entries into the dynamic table.

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<p>Using the defaults for early data would be unfortunate, because early(ie: 0RTT) requests are likely to want to insert entries into the dynamic table.</p>

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> @@ -629,6 +632,24 @@ A client MAY attempt to send 0-RTT again if it receives a Retry or Version
 Negotiation packet.  These packets do not signify rejection of 0-RTT.
 
 
+## Validating saved 0-RTT state
+
+When a server receives a ClientHello with the "early_data" extension, it has to
+decide whether to accept or rejct early data from the client. Some of this
+decision is made by the TLS stack (e.g. checking that the cipher suite being
+resumed was included in the ClientHello, see Section 4.2.10 of {{!TLS13}}). QUIC
+saves additional transport and application state in a 0-RTT session ticket, and
+imposes additional restrictions on when a server may accept early data. The TLS
+stack needs to check with the QUIC stack whether this saved state is valid for
+accepting early data.
+
+One example of such state that the QUIC stack checks when deciding whether or
+not to accept early data is the transport parameters extension. When HTTP/3
+({{QUIC-HTTP}}) is used at the application layer, the SETTINGS frame from the

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<p><b>@nharper</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2947#discussion_r309916542">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -629,6 +632,24 @@ A client MAY attempt to send 0-RTT again if it receives a Retry or Version
 Negotiation packet.  These packets do not signify rejection of 0-RTT.
 
 
+## Validating saved 0-RTT state
+
+When a server receives a ClientHello with the &quot;early_data&quot; extension, it has to
+decide whether to accept or rejct early data from the client. Some of this
+decision is made by the TLS stack (e.g. checking that the cipher suite being
+resumed was included in the ClientHello, see Section 4.2.10 of {{!TLS13}}). QUIC
+saves additional transport and application state in a 0-RTT session ticket, and
+imposes additional restrictions on when a server may accept early data. The TLS
+stack needs to check with the QUIC stack whether this saved state is valid for
+accepting early data.
+
+One example of such state that the QUIC stack checks when deciding whether or
+not to accept early data is the transport parameters extension. When HTTP/3
+({{QUIC-HTTP}}) is used at the application layer, the SETTINGS frame from the
</pre>
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DavidSchinazi commented on this pull request.



> @@ -629,6 +632,24 @@ A client MAY attempt to send 0-RTT again if it receives a Retry or Version
 Negotiation packet.  These packets do not signify rejection of 0-RTT.
 
 
+## Validating saved 0-RTT state
+
+When a server receives a ClientHello with the "early_data" extension, it has to
+decide whether to accept or rejct early data from the client. Some of this
+decision is made by the TLS stack (e.g. checking that the cipher suite being
+resumed was included in the ClientHello, see Section 4.2.10 of {{!TLS13}}). QUIC
+saves additional transport and application state in a 0-RTT session ticket, and
+imposes additional restrictions on when a server may accept early data. The TLS
+stack needs to check with the QUIC stack whether this saved state is valid for
+accepting early data.
+
+One example of such state that the QUIC stack checks when deciding whether or
+not to accept early data is the transport parameters extension. When HTTP/3
+({{QUIC-HTTP}}) is used at the application layer, the SETTINGS frame from the

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2947#discussion_r309920816">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -629,6 +632,24 @@ A client MAY attempt to send 0-RTT again if it receives a Retry or Version
 Negotiation packet.  These packets do not signify rejection of 0-RTT.
 
 
+## Validating saved 0-RTT state
+
+When a server receives a ClientHello with the &quot;early_data&quot; extension, it has to
+decide whether to accept or rejct early data from the client. Some of this
+decision is made by the TLS stack (e.g. checking that the cipher suite being
+resumed was included in the ClientHello, see Section 4.2.10 of {{!TLS13}}). QUIC
+saves additional transport and application state in a 0-RTT session ticket, and
+imposes additional restrictions on when a server may accept early data. The TLS
+stack needs to check with the QUIC stack whether this saved state is valid for
+accepting early data.
+
+One example of such state that the QUIC stack checks when deciding whether or
+not to accept early data is the transport parameters extension. When HTTP/3
+({{QUIC-HTTP}}) is used at the application layer, the SETTINGS frame from the
</pre>
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And we would want to be able to use HTTP/3 extensions in 0-RTT.

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<p>And we would want to be able to use HTTP/3 extensions in 0-RTT.</p>

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> @@ -629,6 +632,24 @@ A client MAY attempt to send 0-RTT again if it receives a Retry or Version
 Negotiation packet.  These packets do not signify rejection of 0-RTT.
 
 
+## Validating saved 0-RTT state
+
+When a server receives a ClientHello with the "early_data" extension, it has to
+decide whether to accept or rejct early data from the client. Some of this
+decision is made by the TLS stack (e.g. checking that the cipher suite being
+resumed was included in the ClientHello, see Section 4.2.10 of {{!TLS13}}). QUIC
+saves additional transport and application state in a 0-RTT session ticket, and
+imposes additional restrictions on when a server may accept early data. The TLS
+stack needs to check with the QUIC stack whether this saved state is valid for
+accepting early data.
+
+One example of such state that the QUIC stack checks when deciding whether or
+not to accept early data is the transport parameters extension. When HTTP/3
+({{QUIC-HTTP}}) is used at the application layer, the SETTINGS frame from the

>From doing git grep, the only reference to a QUIC-* draft that is marked with a `?` is the transport draft referencing QUIC-MANAGEABILITY. The rest omit a `?` or a `!`.

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<p><b>@nharper</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2947#discussion_r309936757">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -629,6 +632,24 @@ A client MAY attempt to send 0-RTT again if it receives a Retry or Version
 Negotiation packet.  These packets do not signify rejection of 0-RTT.
 
 
+## Validating saved 0-RTT state
+
+When a server receives a ClientHello with the &quot;early_data&quot; extension, it has to
+decide whether to accept or rejct early data from the client. Some of this
+decision is made by the TLS stack (e.g. checking that the cipher suite being
+resumed was included in the ClientHello, see Section 4.2.10 of {{!TLS13}}). QUIC
+saves additional transport and application state in a 0-RTT session ticket, and
+imposes additional restrictions on when a server may accept early data. The TLS
+stack needs to check with the QUIC stack whether this saved state is valid for
+accepting early data.
+
+One example of such state that the QUIC stack checks when deciding whether or
+not to accept early data is the transport parameters extension. When HTTP/3
+({{QUIC-HTTP}}) is used at the application layer, the SETTINGS frame from the
</pre>
<p>From doing git grep, the only reference to a QUIC-* draft that is marked with a <code>?</code> is the transport draft referencing QUIC-MANAGEABILITY. The rest omit a <code>?</code> or a <code>!</code>.</p>

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Mention that application data could be conveyed in other frame types
than STREAM frames. (E.g. the proposed DATAGRAM draft sends application
data in DATAGRAM frames.)
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<p>Mention that application data could be conveyed in other frame types<br>
than STREAM frames. (E.g. the proposed DATAGRAM draft sends application<br>
data in DATAGRAM frames.)</p>

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Remove extra curly brace from HTTP draft


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Mention that application data could be conveyed in other frame types
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Fix nit in protocol overview in TLS draft


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This was correct at the time, because only STREAM carried application semantics, but that's too constraining, even now.  Thanks.

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<p>This was correct at the time, because only STREAM carried application semantics, but that's too constraining, even now.  Thanks.</p>

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We're similarly equipped and disinclined toward change.

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<p>We're similarly equipped and disinclined toward change.</p>

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One advantage with taking on the complexity of SETTINGS now is that we have something we can (speaking hopefully) rely on in future.  Aside from the justifiable nervousness at distributing things, having separate mechanisms means that we don't have any infrastructure for doing things like the crazy CONNECT protocol thing.

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<p>One advantage with taking on the complexity of SETTINGS now is that we have something we can (speaking hopefully) rely on in future.  Aside from the justifiable nervousness at distributing things, having separate mechanisms means that we don't have any infrastructure for doing things like the crazy CONNECT protocol thing.</p>

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I had reached the same conclusion as Nick: you have to wait for settings and you have to remember those along with the ticket.  I had completely fail to act on that though.  Good that we have an issue to track this now.

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  * Remove mention of "protocol version selection" from TLS draft

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    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md (5)

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>Remove mention of &quot;protocol version selection&quot; from TLS draft</li>
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I'm pretty sure this was obsoleted when version negotiation was removed (along with initial/negotiated/supported versions from transport parameters). If you think the TLS handshake is still validating protocol version selection, feel free to reject this PR.

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<p>I'm pretty sure this was obsoleted when version negotiation was removed (along with initial/negotiated/supported versions from transport parameters). If you think the TLS handshake is still validating protocol version selection, feel free to reject this PR.</p>

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Oh I agree with that, let's try and nail down the design of SETTINGS.

I just think there'll be some surprises when someone comes to try a semantic extension that requires negotiation and finds that SETTINGS wont support them. 

Simple extensions like "I accept new thing" can continue to be SETTINGS and will benefit from the 0-RTT framework we set out.

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<p>Oh I agree with that, let's try and nail down the design of SETTINGS.</p>
<p>I just think there'll be some surprises when someone comes to try a semantic extension that requires negotiation and finds that SETTINGS wont support them.</p>
<p>Simple extensions like "I accept new thing" can continue to be SETTINGS and will benefit from the 0-RTT framework we set out.</p>

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  Date:   2019-08-01 (Thu, 01 Aug 2019)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

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  Remove mention of "protocol version selection" from TLS draft


  Commit: 107efdad65b3ba3c87eee93c18fd97a5355b08a3
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  Merge pull request #2950 from nharper/nit3

Remove mention of "protocol version selection" from TLS draft


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@ianswett 
> I don't think we can enforce this any more than we already are, so I believe implementations should function relatively well without receiving SETTINGS.

Yeah. We have seen interop fail between some endpoints due to one side expecting SETTINGS before sending the request (response).

I would prefer sending the settings parameters using EE, _if_ we are to also require the server to wait for SETTINGS before sending anything. That would make the protocol design simpler, because transmission of any frames (expect the settings parameters) can be based on the knowledge of the peer. Admittedly, I am referring to [our discussion at IETF 103](https://github.com/quicwg/wg-materials/blob/master/ietf103/minutes.md#settings-interlocking-slide).

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<p>Yeah. We have seen interop fail between some endpoints due to one side expecting SETTINGS before sending the request (response).</p>
<p>I would prefer sending the settings parameters using EE, <em>if</em> we are to also require the server to wait for SETTINGS before sending anything. That would make the protocol design simpler, because transmission of any frames (expect the settings parameters) can be based on the knowledge of the peer. Admittedly, I am referring to <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/wg-materials/blob/master/ietf103/minutes.md#settings-interlocking-slide">our discussion at IETF 103</a>.</p>

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I discussed this with @nharper and @DavidSchinazi today and I think we concluded placing it in transport parameters would be simpler than EE.  I'm happy to do it there and that would make it required(or if it's not present, it's clear the peer is fine with the defaults).

If so, the H3 feature negotiation would work identically to the QUIC transport feature negotiation, so reasoning about it should be straightforward.

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<p>I discussed this with <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/hovercards?user_id=653608" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/nharper">@nharper</a> and <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/hovercards?user_id=5599133" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/DavidSchinazi">@DavidSchinazi</a> today and I think we concluded placing it in transport parameters would be simpler than EE.  I'm happy to do it there and that would make it required(or if it's not present, it's clear the peer is fine with the defaults).</p>
<p>If so, the H3 feature negotiation would work identically to the QUIC transport feature negotiation, so reasoning about it should be straightforward.</p>

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@kazuho, Are you suggesting an asymmetry?  That is, the client uses a frame and the server uses EncryptedExtensions?  Or do we pack this into transport parameters?

I can see the appeal of that.  As information that relates to the connection, this sort of thing naturally rolls up into the handshake.  And the client is the only one with an acute need to have the associated state persisted beyond the lifetime of the connection.  The server might still suffer head-of-line blocking for client settings, but we've already established that the need is much less severe.

I have something of a dramatic suggestion.  It's one that was thorough poo-pooed when I suggested it the first time.  If Lucas can do the crazy-talk thing, so can I.

We can move the TLS session ticket up two layers and send it in h3.  Then we can bind whatever state we like into it.  And we get nice deterministic ordering if we want.  That's complicated for a bunch of reasons, but if you look at the implementation of tickets, I think that you end up writing most of that complexity into the stack anyway.  I've only implemented the transport-layer interaction with tickets and it's already pretty thorny.

I realize that this opens a lot of awkward questions, but it might be worth the effort to address them.

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<p>I can see the appeal of that.  As information that relates to the connection, this sort of thing naturally rolls up into the handshake.  And the client is the only one with an acute need to have the associated state persisted beyond the lifetime of the connection.  The server might still suffer head-of-line blocking for client settings, but we've already established that the need is much less severe.</p>
<p>I have something of a dramatic suggestion.  It's one that was thorough poo-pooed when I suggested it the first time.  If Lucas can do the crazy-talk thing, so can I.</p>
<p>We can move the TLS session ticket up two layers and send it in h3.  Then we can bind whatever state we like into it.  And we get nice deterministic ordering if we want.  That's complicated for a bunch of reasons, but if you look at the implementation of tickets, I think that you end up writing most of that complexity into the stack anyway.  I've only implemented the transport-layer interaction with tickets and it's already pretty thorny.</p>
<p>I realize that this opens a lot of awkward questions, but it might be worth the effort to address them.</p>

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I was thinking of asymmetry (client sends SETTINGS in an H3 frame, server sends them in TP in EE), though collapsing them entirely to TP and half a round trip earlier has some appeal. (My biggest concern with that is the client's SETTINGS are sent in the clear.)

In thinking about how to implement #2790 (and how to specify/clarify some of that language), there's quite a bit of interaction between the H3 layer and TLS layer. I see how it's tempting to move the TLS session ticket to an H3 frame. However, this means that any application that wants to use QUIC for its transport has to provide some mechanism to convey session tickets (otherwise that application can't use 0-RTT), which seems like a large downside.

Having everything at one layer for handling session tickets sounds like it would work best, and I think the transport layer (instead of the application layer) is the right place for that. The server's transport parameters already need to be remembered by both peers for 0-RTT resumption, so we're stuck with the transport-layer interaction with tickets. If we add an "application layer parameters" field to transport parameters, we can put the server's SETTINGS in there (and possibly the client's), and we get all of the logic for remembering SETTINGS for free. Also all of the ordering problems between SETTINGS and the NewSessionTicket go away.

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<p>I was thinking of asymmetry (client sends SETTINGS in an H3 frame, server sends them in TP in EE), though collapsing them entirely to TP and half a round trip earlier has some appeal. (My biggest concern with that is the client's SETTINGS are sent in the clear.)</p>
<p>In thinking about how to implement <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="455976018" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2790" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2790/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2790">#2790</a> (and how to specify/clarify some of that language), there's quite a bit of interaction between the H3 layer and TLS layer. I see how it's tempting to move the TLS session ticket to an H3 frame. However, this means that any application that wants to use QUIC for its transport has to provide some mechanism to convey session tickets (otherwise that application can't use 0-RTT), which seems like a large downside.</p>
<p>Having everything at one layer for handling session tickets sounds like it would work best, and I think the transport layer (instead of the application layer) is the right place for that. The server's transport parameters already need to be remembered by both peers for 0-RTT resumption, so we're stuck with the transport-layer interaction with tickets. If we add an "application layer parameters" field to transport parameters, we can put the server's SETTINGS in there (and possibly the client's), and we get all of the logic for remembering SETTINGS for free. Also all of the ordering problems between SETTINGS and the NewSessionTicket go away.</p>

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The asymmetry continues to bother me.  I don't want these in the clear either.

It seems like moving to transport parameters really only has the effect of forcing head-of-line blocking.  I'm not that enthusiastic about that.

> this means that any application that wants to use QUIC for its transport has to provide some mechanism to convey session tickets 

That's right.  The interaction needs to be there anyway.  The question is more to what extent we try to hide that interaction.  

The ticket elevation was mostly just a request for consideration than it was any serious suggestion.  Though it does neatly address the problem of which protocols get to use 0-RTT - because only those that bother to design a mechanism get to use it.  That's a neat property.

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<p>The asymmetry continues to bother me.  I don't want these in the clear either.</p>
<p>It seems like moving to transport parameters really only has the effect of forcing head-of-line blocking.  I'm not that enthusiastic about that.</p>
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<p>this means that any application that wants to use QUIC for its transport has to provide some mechanism to convey session tickets</p>
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<p>That's right.  The interaction needs to be there anyway.  The question is more to what extent we try to hide that interaction.</p>
<p>The ticket elevation was mostly just a request for consideration than it was any serious suggestion.  Though it does neatly address the problem of which protocols get to use 0-RTT - because only those that bother to design a mechanism get to use it.  That's a neat property.</p>

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@martinthomson 
> Are you suggesting an asymmetry? That is, the client uses a frame and the server uses EncryptedExtensions? Or do we pack this into transport parameters?

I am suggesting asymmetry.

IIRC, there are two issues with _the client_ sending the H3 settings parameters in TP. One is that it goes in clear. The other is that it would happen before the protocol is determined by ALPN. These are the reasons why we decided not to use TP for this purpose.

I am fine with sticking to this previous conclusion (although I am perfectly fine with the client using TP for sending the settings parameters too).

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<p>Are you suggesting an asymmetry? That is, the client uses a frame and the server uses EncryptedExtensions? Or do we pack this into transport parameters?</p>
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<p>I am suggesting asymmetry.</p>
<p>IIRC, there are two issues with <em>the client</em> sending the H3 settings parameters in TP. One is that it goes in clear. The other is that it would happen before the protocol is determined by ALPN. These are the reasons why we decided not to use TP for this purpose.</p>
<p>I am fine with sticking to this previous conclusion (although I am perfectly fine with the client using TP for sending the settings parameters too).</p>

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Byte order of IP addresses in PreferredAddress is not explicitly stated. In practice, most OSs keep them in network byte order, and the spec says integers are in network byte order, however the fields for ip addresses are defined as opaque data. The byte order should be stated on this spec.

```
    struct {
     opaque ipv4Address[4];
     uint16 ipv4Port;
     opaque ipv6Address[16];
     uint16 ipv6Port;
     opaque connectionId<0..20>;
     opaque statelessResetToken[16];
   } PreferredAddress;
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<p>Byte order of IP addresses in PreferredAddress is not explicitly stated. In practice, most OSs keep them in network byte order, and the spec says integers are in network byte order, however the fields for ip addresses are defined as opaque data. The byte order should be stated on this spec.</p>
<pre><code>    struct {
     opaque ipv4Address[4];
     uint16 ipv4Port;
     opaque ipv6Address[16];
     uint16 ipv6Port;
     opaque connectionId&lt;0..20&gt;;
     opaque statelessResetToken[16];
   } PreferredAddress;
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mirjak commented on this pull request.



>  If verification fails, then the endpoint ceases setting ECT codepoints in
 subsequent IP packets with the expectation that either the network path or the
 peer does not support ECN.
 
-If an endpoint sets ECT codepoints on outgoing IP packets and encounters a
-retransmission timeout due to the absence of acknowledgments from the peer (see
-{{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), or if an endpoint has reason to believe that an element on
-the network path might be corrupting ECN codepoints, the endpoint MAY cease
-setting ECT codepoints in subsequent packets.  Doing so allows the connection to
-be resilient to network elements that corrupt ECN codepoints in the IP header or
-drop packets with ECT or CE codepoints in the IP header.
+If an ECT codepoint set is not dropped or corrupted by a network device, then a
+received packet contains either the codepoint sent by the peer or the Congestion
+Experienced (CE) codepoint set by a network device that is experiencing
+congestion.
+
+Upon successful verification, an endpoint continues to set ECT codepoints in
+subsequent packets with the expectation that the path is ECN-capable.

Under the assumption that ECN-based black holing basically doesn't exists anymore or at at least was not measurable anymore, I would like to propose to enable ECN-marking from the beginning and simply disable ECN on time-out or if acks without ECN feedback are received. Of course ECN could be enabled anytime again if you want to try again, however, no matter if in "testing" or not if you don't receive ECN feedback (anymore) for whatever reason, you should stop using ECN no matter what.

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<p><b>@mirjak</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2752#discussion_r310056524">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  If verification fails, then the endpoint ceases setting ECT codepoints in
 subsequent IP packets with the expectation that either the network path or the
 peer does not support ECN.
 
-If an endpoint sets ECT codepoints on outgoing IP packets and encounters a
-retransmission timeout due to the absence of acknowledgments from the peer (see
-{{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), or if an endpoint has reason to believe that an element on
-the network path might be corrupting ECN codepoints, the endpoint MAY cease
-setting ECT codepoints in subsequent packets.  Doing so allows the connection to
-be resilient to network elements that corrupt ECN codepoints in the IP header or
-drop packets with ECT or CE codepoints in the IP header.
+If an ECT codepoint set is not dropped or corrupted by a network device, then a
+received packet contains either the codepoint sent by the peer or the Congestion
+Experienced (CE) codepoint set by a network device that is experiencing
+congestion.
+
+Upon successful verification, an endpoint continues to set ECT codepoints in
+subsequent packets with the expectation that the path is ECN-capable.
</pre>
<p>Under the assumption that ECN-based black holing basically doesn't exists anymore or at at least was not measurable anymore, I would like to propose to enable ECN-marking from the beginning and simply disable ECN on time-out or if acks without ECN feedback are received. Of course ECN could be enabled anytime again if you want to try again, however, no matter if in "testing" or not if you don't receive ECN feedback (anymore) for whatever reason, you should stop using ECN no matter what.</p>

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Indicates that peers can skip a packet number when sending a single PTO packet to elicit a faster ACK.
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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2952

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  * Skip a packet number when sending one PTO packet

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    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md (4)

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<p>Indicates that peers can skip a packet number when sending a single PTO packet to elicit a faster ACK.</p>

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  Replace HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME error code (#2662)

* replace HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME error code.

* reduce and upshift error codes

* Apply Kazuho's suggested error ordering

* @rmarx's suggested rename



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I think this is a good idea, but given the apparent direction from IETF 105 to remove the priority tree scheme entirely, I'm closing this PR for the moment.  If we decide to retain that scheme or develop something like it, I would support adding this change (and possibly an equivalent one for weights of 255).

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<p>I think this is a good idea, but given the apparent direction from IETF 105 to remove the priority tree scheme entirely, I'm closing this PR for the moment.  If we decide to retain that scheme or develop something like it, I would support adding this change (and possibly an equivalent one for weights of 255).</p>

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I think this PR was on a good track, but given the direction at IETF 105 to remove the priority tree from the document, I'm closing the PR.  If we decide to retain the tree-based scheme in H3 (or resurrect it as an extension), I would support incorporating this.  Thanks for the work you put into it, @kazuho.

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<p>I think this PR was on a good track, but given the direction at IETF 105 to remove the priority tree from the document, I'm closing the PR.  If we decide to retain the tree-based scheme in H3 (or resurrect it as an extension), I would support incorporating this.  Thanks for the work you put into it, <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/hovercards?user_id=41567" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/kazuho">@kazuho</a>.</p>

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> @@ -505,11 +505,11 @@ this limit are not guaranteed to be accepted.
 
 ### Request Cancellation and Rejection {#request-cancellation}
 
-Clients can cancel requests by aborting the stream (QUIC RESET_STREAM and/or
-STOP_SENDING frames, as appropriate) with an error code of
-HTTP_REQUEST_CANCELLED ({{http-error-codes}}).  When the client cancels a
-response, it indicates that this response is no longer of interest.
-Implementations SHOULD cancel requests by aborting both directions of a stream.
+Clients can cancel requests by resetting the request stream with an error code
+of HTTP_REQUEST_CANCELLED ({{http-error-codes}}).  When the client aborts
+reading a response, it indicates that this response is no longer of interest.
+Implementations SHOULD cancel requests by terminating both directions of a

The terms "clean termination" and "abrupt termination" are given as synonyms for "end the stream" and "reset the stream" in -transport line 361.  I should specify the termination type here.

> -least one unidirectional stream for the HTTP control stream plus the number of
-unidirectional streams required by mandatory extensions (such as QPACK) by
-setting an appropriate value for the QUIC transport parameter
-`initial_max_uni_streams` (three being the minimum value required for the base
-HTTP/3 protocol and QPACK), and SHOULD use a value of 1,024 or greater for the
-QUIC transport parameter `initial_max_stream_data_uni`.
+Endpoints that excessively restrict the number or flow control window of these
+streams will increase the chance that the remote peer reaches the limit early
+and becomes blocked. In particular, implementations should consider that remote
+peers may wish to exercise reserved stream behavior ({{stream-grease}}) with
+some of the unidirectional streams they are permitted to use. To avoid blocking,
+both clients and servers MUST allow the peer to create at least one
+unidirectional stream for the HTTP control stream plus the number of
+unidirectional streams required by mandatory extensions (three being the minimum
+number required for the base HTTP/3 protocol and QPACK), and SHOULD provide at
+least 1,024 bytes of flow control credit to each stream.

Good point.  I personally think they're equivalent, but I believe our consensus was to require it to be in the transport parameters.  I added a phrase to clarify this.

> @@ -345,6 +345,31 @@ the relative priority of streams.  When deciding which streams to dedicate
 resources to, the implementation SHOULD use the information provided by the
 application.
 
+## Required Operations on Streams
+
+There are certain operations which an application MUST be able to perform when
+interacting with QUIC streams.  This document does not specify an API, but
+any implementation of this version of QUIC MUST expose the ability to perform
+the operations described in this section on a QUIC stream.
+
+On the sending part of a stream:
+
+- Attempt to write data, understanding when stream flow control credit
+  ({{data-flow-control}}) has successfully been reserved to send the written
+  data or possibly discovering that the stream has been closed because the peer

Already created this list, but didn't adjust this bullet point.  Fixed.

> @@ -1101,6 +1132,41 @@ suggested structure:
 -->
 
 
+## Required Operations on Connections
+
+There are certain operations which an application MUST be able to perform when
+interacting with the QUIC transport.  This document does not specify an API, but
+any implementation of this version of QUIC MUST expose the ability to perform
+the operations described in this section on a QUIC connection.
+
+When implementing the client role, applications need to be able to:
+
+- open a connection, which begins the exchange described in {{handshake}};
+- enable 0-RTT; and
+- be informed when 0-RTT has been accepted or rejected by a server.

The client needs to know because rejection resets the state of all streams; the client has to know whether to start over.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2857#discussion_r304095084">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -505,11 +505,11 @@ this limit are not guaranteed to be accepted.
 
 ### Request Cancellation and Rejection {#request-cancellation}
 
-Clients can cancel requests by aborting the stream (QUIC RESET_STREAM and/or
-STOP_SENDING frames, as appropriate) with an error code of
-HTTP_REQUEST_CANCELLED ({{http-error-codes}}).  When the client cancels a
-response, it indicates that this response is no longer of interest.
-Implementations SHOULD cancel requests by aborting both directions of a stream.
+Clients can cancel requests by resetting the request stream with an error code
+of HTTP_REQUEST_CANCELLED ({{http-error-codes}}).  When the client aborts
+reading a response, it indicates that this response is no longer of interest.
+Implementations SHOULD cancel requests by terminating both directions of a
</pre>
<p>The terms "clean termination" and "abrupt termination" are given as synonyms for "end the stream" and "reset the stream" in -transport line 361.  I should specify the termination type here.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2857#discussion_r304096424">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; -least one unidirectional stream for the HTTP control stream plus the number of
-unidirectional streams required by mandatory extensions (such as QPACK) by
-setting an appropriate value for the QUIC transport parameter
-`initial_max_uni_streams` (three being the minimum value required for the base
-HTTP/3 protocol and QPACK), and SHOULD use a value of 1,024 or greater for the
-QUIC transport parameter `initial_max_stream_data_uni`.
+Endpoints that excessively restrict the number or flow control window of these
+streams will increase the chance that the remote peer reaches the limit early
+and becomes blocked. In particular, implementations should consider that remote
+peers may wish to exercise reserved stream behavior ({{stream-grease}}) with
+some of the unidirectional streams they are permitted to use. To avoid blocking,
+both clients and servers MUST allow the peer to create at least one
+unidirectional stream for the HTTP control stream plus the number of
+unidirectional streams required by mandatory extensions (three being the minimum
+number required for the base HTTP/3 protocol and QPACK), and SHOULD provide at
+least 1,024 bytes of flow control credit to each stream.
</pre>
<p>Good point.  I personally think they're equivalent, but I believe our consensus was to require it to be in the transport parameters.  I added a phrase to clarify this.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2857#discussion_r304097465">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -345,6 +345,31 @@ the relative priority of streams.  When deciding which streams to dedicate
 resources to, the implementation SHOULD use the information provided by the
 application.
 
+## Required Operations on Streams
+
+There are certain operations which an application MUST be able to perform when
+interacting with QUIC streams.  This document does not specify an API, but
+any implementation of this version of QUIC MUST expose the ability to perform
+the operations described in this section on a QUIC stream.
+
+On the sending part of a stream:
+
+- Attempt to write data, understanding when stream flow control credit
+  ({{data-flow-control}}) has successfully been reserved to send the written
+  data or possibly discovering that the stream has been closed because the peer
</pre>
<p>Already created this list, but didn't adjust this bullet point.  Fixed.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2857#discussion_r304097910">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1101,6 +1132,41 @@ suggested structure:
 --&gt;
 
 
+## Required Operations on Connections
+
+There are certain operations which an application MUST be able to perform when
+interacting with the QUIC transport.  This document does not specify an API, but
+any implementation of this version of QUIC MUST expose the ability to perform
+the operations described in this section on a QUIC connection.
+
+When implementing the client role, applications need to be able to:
+
+- open a connection, which begins the exchange described in {{handshake}};
+- enable 0-RTT; and
+- be informed when 0-RTT has been accepted or rejected by a server.
</pre>
<p>The client needs to know because rejection resets the state of all streams; the client has to know whether to start over.</p>

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> +
+When implementing the client role, applications need to be able to:
+
+- open a connection, which begins the exchange described in {{handshake}};
+- enable 0-RTT; and
+- be informed when 0-RTT has been accepted or rejected by a server.
+
+When implementing the server role, applications need to be able to:
+
+- listen for incoming connections, which prepares for the exchange described in
+  {{handshake}};
+- if Early Data is supported, embed application-controlled data in the TLS
+  resumption ticket sent to the client; and
+- if Early Data is supported, retrieve application-controlled data from the
+  client's resumption ticket and enable rejecting Early Data based on that
+  information.

Added to stream requirements, but now I'm not so sure that's correct.  Early-Data has to be added when the server "forwards a request prior to the completion of the TLS handshake".  That would mean the server really only needs a yes/no about the current state of the connection when the request is being forwarded.  If the handshake has completed, it doesn't matter that the request was originally early -- it's now retroactively validated as a non-replay by the successful handshake.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2857#discussion_r310233324">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +
+When implementing the client role, applications need to be able to:
+
+- open a connection, which begins the exchange described in {{handshake}};
+- enable 0-RTT; and
+- be informed when 0-RTT has been accepted or rejected by a server.
+
+When implementing the server role, applications need to be able to:
+
+- listen for incoming connections, which prepares for the exchange described in
+  {{handshake}};
+- if Early Data is supported, embed application-controlled data in the TLS
+  resumption ticket sent to the client; and
+- if Early Data is supported, retrieve application-controlled data from the
+  client&#39;s resumption ticket and enable rejecting Early Data based on that
+  information.
</pre>
<p>Added to stream requirements, but now I'm not so sure that's correct.  Early-Data has to be added when the server "forwards a request prior to the completion of the TLS handshake".  That would mean the server really only needs a yes/no about the current state of the connection when the request is being forwarded.  If the handshake has completed, it doesn't matter that the request was originally early -- it's now retroactively validated as a non-replay by the successful handshake.</p>

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  Changed paths:
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@janaiyengar and @martinthomson, I think this is mergeable from an HTTP standpoint.  Since it's technically a requirements change (requiring that functionality be exposed), it probably needs to be marked for a consensus call when you think it's ready.

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Is it worth adding a reference to RFC 8441?  That's an alternative that covers what people looking for this functionality were probably trying to do.

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<p>Is it worth adding a reference to RFC 8441?  That's an alternative that covers what people looking for this functionality were probably trying to do.</p>

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Yeah, I'm not sold on this change.  This is expressing an option that servers have for that situation, not permission to undertake a new protocol behavior we're defining in this section.

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<p>Yeah, I'm not sold on this change.  This is expressing an option that servers have for that situation, not permission to undertake a new protocol behavior we're defining in this section.</p>

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The asymmetry between having client send SETTINGS in an H3 frame and a server sending SETTINGS in TP doesn't bother me because those settings serve different purposes. The client's SETTINGS serves solely to indicate H3 configuration for the connection on which it was sent. The server's SETTINGS serves both that purpose and to indicate H3 configuration that will be accepted for early data sent on a future connection. We already have an asymmetry in the purpose of the two SETTINGS frames.

Why not consider the two use cases for the server's SETTINGS separately? The second use case (use these settings for early data on a future connection) would be better served if it were more tightly coupled to other information sent to the client about what to do on that future connection. That could be done by sending it in a NewSessionTicket extension; it could also be done by putting it in the TLS handshake (e.g. in EncryptedExtensions or in transport parameters).

If we consider the use cases completely separately, then we could have the server send an H3 SETTINGS frame for the current connection and put settings in NST or EE for use for the future connection. This leads to duplication of data sent (if n NSTs are sent, the settings are sent n+1 times), although it allows the server to specify different parameters for the current connection vs the future ones. Using EE instead of NST reduces the duplication when multiple NSTs are sent.

A design of both client and server sending SETTINGS as an H3 frame to apply for the current connection (and only that connection) meets the requirements for symmetry. The requirement for allowing non-default SETTINGS to apply in early data is solved by having the server signal the SETTINGS for early data of a future connection via some other mechanism, either in the NST or in EE. Is putting server SETTINGS in both an H3 frame and EE preferable to putting them just in EE?

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<p>The asymmetry between having client send SETTINGS in an H3 frame and a server sending SETTINGS in TP doesn't bother me because those settings serve different purposes. The client's SETTINGS serves solely to indicate H3 configuration for the connection on which it was sent. The server's SETTINGS serves both that purpose and to indicate H3 configuration that will be accepted for early data sent on a future connection. We already have an asymmetry in the purpose of the two SETTINGS frames.</p>
<p>Why not consider the two use cases for the server's SETTINGS separately? The second use case (use these settings for early data on a future connection) would be better served if it were more tightly coupled to other information sent to the client about what to do on that future connection. That could be done by sending it in a NewSessionTicket extension; it could also be done by putting it in the TLS handshake (e.g. in EncryptedExtensions or in transport parameters).</p>
<p>If we consider the use cases completely separately, then we could have the server send an H3 SETTINGS frame for the current connection and put settings in NST or EE for use for the future connection. This leads to duplication of data sent (if n NSTs are sent, the settings are sent n+1 times), although it allows the server to specify different parameters for the current connection vs the future ones. Using EE instead of NST reduces the duplication when multiple NSTs are sent.</p>
<p>A design of both client and server sending SETTINGS as an H3 frame to apply for the current connection (and only that connection) meets the requirements for symmetry. The requirement for allowing non-default SETTINGS to apply in early data is solved by having the server signal the SETTINGS for early data of a future connection via some other mechanism, either in the NST or in EE. Is putting server SETTINGS in both an H3 frame and EE preferable to putting them just in EE?</p>

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Currently you can only send SETTINGS once, so allowing them to be sent n+1 times means they all have to be identical, which is not only duplication of data, but also the client should check that they're identical.  Which is doable, but seems unfortunate.

At some point, it was suggested that the only data that ever needed to be sent post-handshake was NST.  IF that was true, we wouldn't need CRYPTO frames in the 1 RTT packets, which might be a simplification and the elevation of NST might be a net win.

Given where we're at, are people interested in any of these larger changes?  It seems like the simplest change would be that any sent SETTINGS frame replaces any SETTINGS used for early data.  I believe this ensures long term consistency and is the minimal change that would 'fix' this issue?

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<p>Currently you can only send SETTINGS once, so allowing them to be sent n+1 times means they all have to be identical, which is not only duplication of data, but also the client should check that they're identical.  Which is doable, but seems unfortunate.</p>
<p>At some point, it was suggested that the only data that ever needed to be sent post-handshake was NST.  IF that was true, we wouldn't need CRYPTO frames in the 1 RTT packets, which might be a simplification and the elevation of NST might be a net win.</p>
<p>Given where we're at, are people interested in any of these larger changes?  It seems like the simplest change would be that any sent SETTINGS frame replaces any SETTINGS used for early data.  I believe this ensures long term consistency and is the minimal change that would 'fix' this issue?</p>

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The strawman of sending SETTINGS in NST (resulting in them being sent n+1 times) has only the SETTINGS frame in H3 apply to that connection. The ones in NST could be different since they only apply to early data on a new connection.

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<p>The strawman of sending SETTINGS in NST (resulting in them being sent n+1 times) has only the SETTINGS frame in H3 apply to that connection. The ones in NST could be different since they only apply to early data on a new connection.</p>

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martinthomson commented on this pull request.



> @@ -1101,6 +1132,41 @@ suggested structure:
 -->
 
 
+## Required Operations on Connections
+
+There are certain operations which an application MUST be able to perform when
+interacting with the QUIC transport.  This document does not specify an API, but
+any implementation of this version of QUIC MUST expose the ability to perform
+the operations described in this section on a QUIC connection.
+
+When implementing the client role, applications need to be able to:
+
+- open a connection, which begins the exchange described in {{handshake}};
+- enable 0-RTT; and
+- be informed when 0-RTT has been accepted or rejected by a server.

It absolutely needs to know about this because 0-RTT rejection implies the need to start over in some cases.  You can't just treat 0-RTT as "lost".

> @@ -638,11 +666,14 @@ Note (*1):
 
 ## Solicited State Transitions
 
-If an endpoint is no longer interested in the data it is receiving on a stream,
-it MAY send a STOP_SENDING frame identifying that stream to prompt closure of
-the stream in the opposite direction.  This typically indicates that the
-receiving application is no longer reading data it receives from the stream, but
-it is not a guarantee that incoming data will be ignored.
+If an application is no longer interested in the data it is receiving on a
+stream, it can abort reading the stream and specify an application error code.
+
+If the stream is in the "Recv or "Size Known" states, the transport SHOULD
+signal this by sending a STOP_SENDING frame identifying that stream to prompt

I think that we can lose a few words and make this a little more readable.
```suggestion
signal this by sending a STOP_SENDING frame to prompt
```

> +- write data, understanding when stream flow control credit
+  ({{data-flow-control}}) has successfully been reserved to send the written
+  data
+- end the stream (clean termination), resulting in a STREAM frame
+  ({{frame-stream}}) with the FIN bit set; and
+- reset the stream (abrupt termination), resulting in a RESET_STREAM frame
+  ({{frame-reset-stream}}), even if the stream was already ended.
+
+On the receiving part of a stream, application protocols need to be able to:
+
+- read data
+- abort reading of the stream and request closure, possibly resulting in a
+  STOP_SENDING frame ({{frame-stop-sending}})
+
+Applications also need to be informed of state changes on streams, including
+when the peer has initiated, reset, or aborted reading on a stream; when new

List construction here implies that you can "reset reading on a stream" or that you can observe "initiation of reading on a stream".  You probably need to say "when the peer has opened or reset a stream; when a peer aborts reading a stream; when new ..."

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Bootstrapping WebSockets with HTTP/2 is specified in RFC844. The principle is that WebSocket will take up one stream in HTTP/2 and use DATA frame transmission.

The coupling between WebSocket and HTTP/2 is already very high. Why not directly merge into a single protocol? This can be designed to be simpler.

We can design HTTP/3 as a full-featured protocol that supports working in a request/response mode and supports working in instant messaging mode, unifying the application layer transport protocol of the Web.

We can design a special instant communication stream in HTTP/3, through simple handshake, and simple frame encapsulation. In fact, these can directly use the streamlined HTTP/3 header and data format, and the space occupied by compression will be Become smaller, frame encapsulation of WebSocket itself is no longer needed at all

This way we no longer need WebSocket.


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<p>Bootstrapping WebSockets with HTTP/2 is specified in RFC844. The principle is that WebSocket will take up one stream in HTTP/2 and use DATA frame transmission.</p>
<p>The coupling between WebSocket and HTTP/2 is already very high. Why not directly merge into a single protocol? This can be designed to be simpler.</p>
<p>We can design HTTP/3 as a full-featured protocol that supports working in a request/response mode and supports working in instant messaging mode, unifying the application layer transport protocol of the Web.</p>
<p>We can design a special instant communication stream in HTTP/3, through simple handshake, and simple frame encapsulation. In fact, these can directly use the streamlined HTTP/3 header and data format, and the space occupied by compression will be Become smaller, frame encapsulation of WebSocket itself is no longer needed at all</p>
<p>This way we no longer need WebSocket.</p>

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IIRC, we stopped using extensions of NST in draft-12. The change was welcomed by some, because certain TLS stacks do not provide access to NST extensions.

My weak preference goes to keeping the transport-crypto layer and the application protocol layer separate. Because that reduces the API concerns. Therefore, I prefer to not [send session tickets using H3 frames](https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2945#issuecomment-517519259), or to not [send H3 settings using NST](https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2945#issuecomment-518046192).

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<p>IIRC, we stopped using extensions of NST in draft-12. The change was welcomed by some, because certain TLS stacks do not provide access to NST extensions.</p>
<p>My weak preference goes to keeping the transport-crypto layer and the application protocol layer separate. Because that reduces the API concerns. Therefore, I prefer to not <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2945#issuecomment-517519259" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2945/hovercard">send session tickets using H3 frames</a>, or to not <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2945#issuecomment-518046192" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2945/hovercard">send H3 settings using NST</a>.</p>

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I believe what you're describing is similar to the WebTransport proposal: https://github.com/WICG/web-transport

I also think this issue is likely out of scope for QUIC v1, but I'll let @MikeBishop make the call on that.

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<p>I believe what you're describing is similar to the WebTransport proposal: <a href="https://github.com/WICG/web-transport">https://github.com/WICG/web-transport</a></p>
<p>I also think this issue is likely out of scope for QUIC v1, but I'll let <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/hovercards?user_id=4273797" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/MikeBishop">@MikeBishop</a> make the call on that.</p>

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Yes, my idea is very similar to WebTransport, but it is not exactly the same.

WebTransport defines the ideal target and API, but it doesn't work out how to implement it. My idea is that this goal is implemented inside HTTP/3 instead of defining a new network protocol.

My idea is to add a built-in, reliable, real-time, two-way streaming feature over HTTP/3 that does not require re-authentication when used in an established HTTP/3 connection (it has already been authenticated when establishing an HTTP/3 connection).

Can be initiated by the server, not just the client, initiates or even does not need to handshake, like HTTP/2 directly send a HEADER frame to create a new stream, use a special frame type (such as MESSAGE) to transfer data to create a new stream, reaching 0 -RTT.

Of course, the above transfer function can be disabled using the SETTINGS frame, but it should be turned on by default.

I think the above features can only be done by embedding it in HTTP/3, instead of using the ugly upgrade mechanism like RFC 8441.

Of course, this is a bit radical. After all, the HTTP protocol is a request-response protocol, but now more and more web content needs to be updated in real time, and WebSocket usage will be more and more. Why not integrate directly into HTTP/3 to define more Powerful next-generation HTTP protocol.

Fewer protocols also allow developers to maintain fewer connection state instances, fewer third-party libraries, and fewer server resources.

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<p>Yes, my idea is very similar to WebTransport, but it is not exactly the same.</p>
<p>WebTransport defines the ideal target and API, but it doesn't work out how to implement it. My idea is that this goal is implemented inside HTTP/3 instead of defining a new network protocol.</p>
<p>My idea is to add a built-in, reliable, real-time, two-way streaming feature over HTTP/3 that does not require re-authentication when used in an established HTTP/3 connection (it has already been authenticated when establishing an HTTP/3 connection).</p>
<p>Can be initiated by the server, not just the client, initiates or even does not need to handshake, like HTTP/2 directly send a HEADER frame to create a new stream, use a special frame type (such as MESSAGE) to transfer data to create a new stream, reaching 0 -RTT.</p>
<p>Of course, the above transfer function can be disabled using the SETTINGS frame, but it should be turned on by default.</p>
<p>I think the above features can only be done by embedding it in HTTP/3, instead of using the ugly upgrade mechanism like RFC 8441.</p>
<p>Of course, this is a bit radical. After all, the HTTP protocol is a request-response protocol, but now more and more web content needs to be updated in real time, and WebSocket usage will be more and more. Why not integrate directly into HTTP/3 to define more Powerful next-generation HTTP protocol.</p>
<p>Fewer protocols also allow developers to maintain fewer connection state instances, fewer third-party libraries, and fewer server resources.</p>

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WebTransport also describes how to implement it, one of the ways is over HTTP/3: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-vvv-webtransport-http3

It achieves the goal you describe of adding more communication modes without requiring re-authentication.

The current goal of the HTTPBIS and QUIC working groups with regard to HTTP/3 is to ship a minimum viable protocol that suits the needs of the web. What you propose, while a very worthwhile enhancement, is not required for a minimum viable protocol so I don't imagine it landing in QUICv1 or HTTP/3. This can be built as an extension to HTTP/3 or a future version.

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<p>WebTransport also describes how to implement it, one of the ways is over HTTP/3: <a href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-vvv-webtransport-http3" rel="nofollow">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-vvv-webtransport-http3</a></p>
<p>It achieves the goal you describe of adding more communication modes without requiring re-authentication.</p>
<p>The current goal of the HTTPBIS and QUIC working groups with regard to HTTP/3 is to ship a minimum viable protocol that suits the needs of the web. What you propose, while a very worthwhile enhancement, is not required for a minimum viable protocol so I don't imagine it landing in QUICv1 or HTTP/3. This can be built as an extension to HTTP/3 or a future version.</p>

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cb6828672ebbb3288be99155ae151ed243723421  Merge Crypto timeout and PTO (#2806)
8006456f147c1ea32e80cc65fb33b04bf955ec00  Fix typo
d090d4d796abf702f7246c06cbae1011342c360f  Don't state QUIC error codes.
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6bb23b3fa6ea8c07c88760b7167346c18d5ec196  ECN verification text
a0c327a188415dbc5860a8907b60c5e382acdd58  faulty, not all
83cc335c78b4782c4cff9d5e5a6854bfaa40824c  ... and I thought this was going to be easy
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nibanks approved this pull request.

What about the case where you receive an in order ack eliciting packet and then an out of order ack only packet? Should you still rely on delayed ack timer or send an ack immediately?



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<p><b>@nibanks</b> approved this pull request.</p>

<p>What about the case where you receive an in order ack eliciting packet and then an out of order ack only packet? Should you still rely on delayed ack timer or send an ack immediately?</p>

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marten-seemann commented on this pull request.

What does it mean for a subsequent packet to arrive out of order?
If I received packets 10, 11, 13, then clearly 13 is out of order. If I received 14 now, would that also be considered out of order? Would 15 be?



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<p>What does it mean for a subsequent packet to arrive out of order?<br>
If I received packets 10, 11, 13, then clearly 13 is out of order. If I received 14 now, would that also be considered out of order? Would 15 be?</p>

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> What about the case where you receive an in order ack eliciting packet and then an out of order ack only packet? Should you still rely on delayed ack timer or send an ack immediately?

Yes, this was going to be my follow up question.

Also @janaiyengar what about the ECN paragraph just below it?

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<p>What about the case where you receive an in order ack eliciting packet and then an out of order ack only packet? Should you still rely on delayed ack timer or send an ack immediately?</p>
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<p>Yes, this was going to be my follow up question.</p>
<p>Also <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/hovercards?user_id=11067604" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/janaiyengar">@janaiyengar</a> what about the ECN paragraph just below it?</p>

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According to the current packet number decode algorithm, if the packet number length is set to 7 bits, and the packets arrived disorder more than 64 packet numbers, the decode algorithm will not work properly. For example:

1. the current maximum packet number is 556917, and arrived packet number is 118, packet number length is 7 bits, then the arrived packet number will be decoded to 556918

2. now the current maximum packet number is 556918, and new arrived packet number is 16310 with packet number length 14 bits, then the new arrived packet number will be decoded to 556982. The packet number 556982 is correct and it is 64 bigger than 556918

3. the current maximum packet number is 556982 now, a new arrived packet number is 119 with packet number length 7 bits, then the new arrived packet number will be decoded to 557047. This number is wrong and it should be 556919. 

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<p>According to the current packet number decode algorithm, if the packet number length is set to 7 bits, and the packets arrived disorder more than 64 packet numbers, the decode algorithm will not work properly. For example:</p>
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<p>the current maximum packet number is 556917, and arrived packet number is 118, packet number length is 7 bits, then the arrived packet number will be decoded to 556918</p>
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<p>now the current maximum packet number is 556918, and new arrived packet number is 16310 with packet number length 14 bits, then the new arrived packet number will be decoded to 556982. The packet number 556982 is correct and it is 64 bigger than 556918</p>
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<p>the current maximum packet number is 556982 now, a new arrived packet number is 119 with packet number length 7 bits, then the new arrived packet number will be decoded to 557047. This number is wrong and it should be 556919.</p>
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QUIC may be used on some high speed links without reordering concerns. However, it may be worth recommending more than 7 bits for ordinary use.

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mikkelfj commented on this pull request.



> @@ -601,7 +601,9 @@ removed from bytes in flight when the Initial and Handshake keys are discarded.
 When a PTO timer expires, a sender MUST send at least one ack-eliciting packet
 as a probe, unless there is no data available to send.  An endpoint MAY send up
 to two full-sized datagrams containing ack-eliciting packets, to avoid an
-expensive consecutive PTO expiration due to a single lost datagram.
+expensive consecutive PTO expiration due to a single lost datagram.  When only
+sending a single packet on PTO, senders can skip a packet number to elicit a
+faster acknowledgement.
 

I don't understand this: while packet numbers are usually incremental, that does not carry any semantics to my knowledge. PN's are skipped to guard against optimistic ACK attacks. It would be unfortunate if that praxis affects retransmission?

That said, I think it would be great if PN's could be assumed to be incremental, but there is no good solution to the optimistic ACK attack so far.

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<p><b>@mikkelfj</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2952#discussion_r310886409">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -601,7 +601,9 @@ removed from bytes in flight when the Initial and Handshake keys are discarded.
 When a PTO timer expires, a sender MUST send at least one ack-eliciting packet
 as a probe, unless there is no data available to send.  An endpoint MAY send up
 to two full-sized datagrams containing ack-eliciting packets, to avoid an
-expensive consecutive PTO expiration due to a single lost datagram.
+expensive consecutive PTO expiration due to a single lost datagram.  When only
+sending a single packet on PTO, senders can skip a packet number to elicit a
+faster acknowledgement.
 
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<p>I don't understand this: while packet numbers are usually incremental, that does not carry any semantics to my knowledge. PN's are skipped to guard against optimistic ACK attacks. It would be unfortunate if that praxis affects retransmission?</p>
<p>That said, I think it would be great if PN's could be assumed to be incremental, but there is no good solution to the optimistic ACK attack so far.</p>

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kazuho commented on this pull request.



> @@ -601,7 +601,9 @@ removed from bytes in flight when the Initial and Handshake keys are discarded.
 When a PTO timer expires, a sender MUST send at least one ack-eliciting packet
 as a probe, unless there is no data available to send.  An endpoint MAY send up
 to two full-sized datagrams containing ack-eliciting packets, to avoid an
-expensive consecutive PTO expiration due to a single lost datagram.
+expensive consecutive PTO expiration due to a single lost datagram.  When only
+sending a single packet on PTO, senders can skip a packet number to elicit a
+faster acknowledgement.
 

IIUC, skipping a packet number is a way to elicit an immediate ACK.

Quoting from section 4: _In order to accelerate loss recovery and reduce timeouts, the receiver SHOULD send an immediate ACK after it receives an out-of-order packet._

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<p><b>@kazuho</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2952#discussion_r310902191">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -601,7 +601,9 @@ removed from bytes in flight when the Initial and Handshake keys are discarded.
 When a PTO timer expires, a sender MUST send at least one ack-eliciting packet
 as a probe, unless there is no data available to send.  An endpoint MAY send up
 to two full-sized datagrams containing ack-eliciting packets, to avoid an
-expensive consecutive PTO expiration due to a single lost datagram.
+expensive consecutive PTO expiration due to a single lost datagram.  When only
+sending a single packet on PTO, senders can skip a packet number to elicit a
+faster acknowledgement.
 
</pre>
<p>IIUC, skipping a packet number is a way to elicit an immediate ACK.</p>
<p>Quoting from section 4: <em>In order to accelerate loss recovery and reduce timeouts, the receiver SHOULD send an immediate ACK after it receives an out-of-order packet.</em></p>

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kazuho commented on this pull request.

I think that this is a good advice. OTOH, I wonder if it might be better to suggest that such approach is possible for all tails, not just PTOs.



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<p>I think that this is a good advice. OTOH, I wonder if it might be better to suggest that such approach is possible for all tails, not just PTOs.</p>

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We already have a sentence that states when a packet number encoding of certain length can be used. Quoting [section 17.1](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#rfc.section.17.1): _The sender MUST use a packet number size able to represent more than twice as large a range than the difference between the largest acknowledged packet and packet number being sent._

Therefore, I think that the only debate is if we need the 7-bit encoding. My preference goes to retaining it, because it would be useful in some cases, and because I do not think we have new information to reopen the issue.

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<p>We already have a sentence that states when a packet number encoding of certain length can be used. Quoting <a href="https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#rfc.section.17.1" rel="nofollow">section 17.1</a>: <em>The sender MUST use a packet number size able to represent more than twice as large a range than the difference between the largest acknowledged packet and packet number being sent.</em></p>
<p>Therefore, I think that the only debate is if we need the 7-bit encoding. My preference goes to retaining it, because it would be useful in some cases, and because I do not think we have new information to reopen the issue.</p>

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mikkelfj commented on this pull request.



> @@ -601,7 +601,9 @@ removed from bytes in flight when the Initial and Handshake keys are discarded.
 When a PTO timer expires, a sender MUST send at least one ack-eliciting packet
 as a probe, unless there is no data available to send.  An endpoint MAY send up
 to two full-sized datagrams containing ack-eliciting packets, to avoid an
-expensive consecutive PTO expiration due to a single lost datagram.
+expensive consecutive PTO expiration due to a single lost datagram.  When only
+sending a single packet on PTO, senders can skip a packet number to elicit a
+faster acknowledgement.
 

But how is "out-of-order" defined?

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2952#discussion_r310906187">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -601,7 +601,9 @@ removed from bytes in flight when the Initial and Handshake keys are discarded.
 When a PTO timer expires, a sender MUST send at least one ack-eliciting packet
 as a probe, unless there is no data available to send.  An endpoint MAY send up
 to two full-sized datagrams containing ack-eliciting packets, to avoid an
-expensive consecutive PTO expiration due to a single lost datagram.
+expensive consecutive PTO expiration due to a single lost datagram.  When only
+sending a single packet on PTO, senders can skip a packet number to elicit a
+faster acknowledgement.
 
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> @@ -601,7 +601,9 @@ removed from bytes in flight when the Initial and Handshake keys are discarded.
 When a PTO timer expires, a sender MUST send at least one ack-eliciting packet
 as a probe, unless there is no data available to send.  An endpoint MAY send up
 to two full-sized datagrams containing ack-eliciting packets, to avoid an
-expensive consecutive PTO expiration due to a single lost datagram.
+expensive consecutive PTO expiration due to a single lost datagram.  When only
+sending a single packet on PTO, senders can skip a packet number to elicit a
+faster acknowledgement.
 

So if both endpoints skip every second packet number early in the connection, in order to aggressively detect optimistic ACK's, would that lead to an ACK flood?

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2952#discussion_r310907459">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -601,7 +601,9 @@ removed from bytes in flight when the Initial and Handshake keys are discarded.
 When a PTO timer expires, a sender MUST send at least one ack-eliciting packet
 as a probe, unless there is no data available to send.  An endpoint MAY send up
 to two full-sized datagrams containing ack-eliciting packets, to avoid an
-expensive consecutive PTO expiration due to a single lost datagram.
+expensive consecutive PTO expiration due to a single lost datagram.  When only
+sending a single packet on PTO, senders can skip a packet number to elicit a
+faster acknowledgement.
 
</pre>
<p>So if both endpoints skip every second packet number early in the connection, in order to aggressively detect optimistic ACK's, would that lead to an ACK flood?</p>

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> @@ -601,7 +601,9 @@ removed from bytes in flight when the Initial and Handshake keys are discarded.
 When a PTO timer expires, a sender MUST send at least one ack-eliciting packet
 as a probe, unless there is no data available to send.  An endpoint MAY send up
 to two full-sized datagrams containing ack-eliciting packets, to avoid an
-expensive consecutive PTO expiration due to a single lost datagram.
+expensive consecutive PTO expiration due to a single lost datagram.  When only
+sending a single packet on PTO, senders can skip a packet number to elicit a
+faster acknowledgement.
 

The term is defined in [section 2](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-recovery.html#rfc.section.2).

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2952#discussion_r310910804">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -601,7 +601,9 @@ removed from bytes in flight when the Initial and Handshake keys are discarded.
 When a PTO timer expires, a sender MUST send at least one ack-eliciting packet
 as a probe, unless there is no data available to send.  An endpoint MAY send up
 to two full-sized datagrams containing ack-eliciting packets, to avoid an
-expensive consecutive PTO expiration due to a single lost datagram.
+expensive consecutive PTO expiration due to a single lost datagram.  When only
+sending a single packet on PTO, senders can skip a packet number to elicit a
+faster acknowledgement.
 
</pre>
<p>The term is defined in <a href="https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-recovery.html#rfc.section.2" rel="nofollow">section 2</a>.</p>

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larseggert commented on this pull request.



> @@ -601,7 +601,9 @@ removed from bytes in flight when the Initial and Handshake keys are discarded.
 When a PTO timer expires, a sender MUST send at least one ack-eliciting packet
 as a probe, unless there is no data available to send.  An endpoint MAY send up
 to two full-sized datagrams containing ack-eliciting packets, to avoid an
-expensive consecutive PTO expiration due to a single lost datagram.
+expensive consecutive PTO expiration due to a single lost datagram.  When only
+sending a single packet on PTO, senders can skip a packet number to elicit a
+faster acknowledgement.
 

Why are we recommending to skip packet numbers over just including a PING? The former causes more overhead in the reverse direction.

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<p><b>@larseggert</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2952#discussion_r310911132">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -601,7 +601,9 @@ removed from bytes in flight when the Initial and Handshake keys are discarded.
 When a PTO timer expires, a sender MUST send at least one ack-eliciting packet
 as a probe, unless there is no data available to send.  An endpoint MAY send up
 to two full-sized datagrams containing ack-eliciting packets, to avoid an
-expensive consecutive PTO expiration due to a single lost datagram.
+expensive consecutive PTO expiration due to a single lost datagram.  When only
+sending a single packet on PTO, senders can skip a packet number to elicit a
+faster acknowledgement.
 
</pre>
<p>Why are we recommending to skip packet numbers over just including a PING? The former causes more overhead in the reverse direction.</p>

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kazuho commented on this pull request.



> @@ -601,7 +601,9 @@ removed from bytes in flight when the Initial and Handshake keys are discarded.
 When a PTO timer expires, a sender MUST send at least one ack-eliciting packet
 as a probe, unless there is no data available to send.  An endpoint MAY send up
 to two full-sized datagrams containing ack-eliciting packets, to avoid an
-expensive consecutive PTO expiration due to a single lost datagram.
+expensive consecutive PTO expiration due to a single lost datagram.  When only
+sending a single packet on PTO, senders can skip a packet number to elicit a
+faster acknowledgement.
 

@larseggert IIUC, the receiver of a PING is not required to send an ACK immediately.

My slight preference goes to handling the issue below the framing layer, because it'd be only after you've generated the payload of a packet (by gathering frames) that you discover that the packet that is going to be sent is a tail.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2952#discussion_r310913779">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -601,7 +601,9 @@ removed from bytes in flight when the Initial and Handshake keys are discarded.
 When a PTO timer expires, a sender MUST send at least one ack-eliciting packet
 as a probe, unless there is no data available to send.  An endpoint MAY send up
 to two full-sized datagrams containing ack-eliciting packets, to avoid an
-expensive consecutive PTO expiration due to a single lost datagram.
+expensive consecutive PTO expiration due to a single lost datagram.  When only
+sending a single packet on PTO, senders can skip a packet number to elicit a
+faster acknowledgement.
 
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<p>My slight preference goes to handling the issue below the framing layer, because it'd be only after you've generated the payload of a packet (by gathering frames) that you discover that the packet that is going to be sent is a tail.</p>

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First, there is no 7-bit encoding.  It's 8 bits, 16, 24, and 32.

Also, there is no guarantee that following the advice in the spec is sufficient either.  You can diligently follow the spec requirements and still have <1RTT worth of reordering cause problems if you suddenly increase the rate of sending packets.  If you were sending 8-bit packet numbers, then you suddenly send far more than 128 packets within an RTT, a strict interpretation of the spec might still lead to most of those packets being sent with 8-bit packet numbers.  If any of those packets with 8-bit numbers is reordered/delayed by more than 127 packets, then it will be decoded incorrectly when it arrives.

That leads to spurious loss, which is repaired very quickly, but it is less than optimal.  To do this perfectly, you have to predict future send rates, which is hard.

But we have discussed this in the past.  I don't see any new information either.  I'm going to recommend no action on this one.

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<p>First, there is no 7-bit encoding.  It's 8 bits, 16, 24, and 32.</p>
<p>Also, there is no guarantee that following the advice in the spec is sufficient either.  You can diligently follow the spec requirements and still have &lt;1RTT worth of reordering cause problems if you suddenly increase the rate of sending packets.  If you were sending 8-bit packet numbers, then you suddenly send far more than 128 packets within an RTT, a strict interpretation of the spec might still lead to most of those packets being sent with 8-bit packet numbers.  If any of those packets with 8-bit numbers is reordered/delayed by more than 127 packets, then it will be decoded incorrectly when it arrives.</p>
<p>That leads to spurious loss, which is repaired very quickly, but it is less than optimal.  To do this perfectly, you have to predict future send rates, which is hard.</p>
<p>But we have discussed this in the past.  I don't see any new information either.  I'm going to recommend no action on this one.</p>

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martinthomson requested changes on this pull request.

One big problem, the rest looks like a solid improvement.

>  
-Each endpoint independently verifies and enables use of ECN by setting the IP
-header ECN codepoint to ECN Capable Transport (ECT) for the path from it to the
-other peer. Even if not setting ECN codepoints on packets it transmits, the
-endpoint SHOULD provide feedback about ECN markings received (if accessible).
+It is possible for faulty network devices to corrupt or erroneously drop packets
+which have ECN markings.  To provide robust connectivity in the presence of such

```suggestion
with ECN markings.  To provide robust connectivity in the presence of such
```
CMOS nit

>  
-Each endpoint independently verifies and enables use of ECN by setting the IP
-header ECN codepoint to ECN Capable Transport (ECT) for the path from it to the
-other peer. Even if not setting ECN codepoints on packets it transmits, the
-endpoint SHOULD provide feedback about ECN markings received (if accessible).
+It is possible for faulty network devices to corrupt or erroneously drop packets
+which have ECN markings.  To provide robust connectivity in the presence of such
+devices, each endpoint independently validates, and enables or disables ECN

```suggestion
devices, each endpoint independently validates ECN counts and disables ECN
if errors are detected.
```

>  
-To verify both that a path supports ECN and the peer can provide ECN feedback,
-an endpoint sets the ECT(0) codepoint in the IP header of all outgoing
-packets {{!RFC8311}}.
+ECN validation is local to a path, and MUST be independently performed for each

```suggestion
Endpoints validate ECN for packets sent on each network path independently.
```

>  
-To verify both that a path supports ECN and the peer can provide ECN feedback,
-an endpoint sets the ECT(0) codepoint in the IP header of all outgoing
-packets {{!RFC8311}}.
+ECN validation is local to a path, and MUST be independently performed for each
+path from an endpoint to its peer.  An endpoint thus independently validates ECN

```suggestion
An endpoint thus validates ECN
```

>  
-If an ECT codepoint set in the IP header is not corrupted by a network device,
-then a received packet contains either the codepoint sent by the peer or the
-Congestion Experienced (CE) codepoint set by a network device that is
-experiencing congestion.
+Even if an endpoint does not use ECN markings on packets it transmits, the
+endpoint SHOULD provide feedback about ECN markings received from the peer if

No need to SHOULD here.

```suggestion
endpoint MUST provide feedback about ECN markings received from the peer if
```

>  
-If an ECT codepoint set in the IP header is not corrupted by a network device,
-then a received packet contains either the codepoint sent by the peer or the
-Congestion Experienced (CE) codepoint set by a network device that is
-experiencing congestion.
+Even if an endpoint does not use ECN markings on packets it transmits, the
+endpoint SHOULD provide feedback about ECN markings received from the peer if
+they are accessible. Not doing so will cause the peer to disable ECN marking.

```suggestion
they are accessible. Failing to report ECN counts will cause the peer to disable ECN marking.
```

> +To start ECN validation, an endpoint SHOULD do the following when sending
+packets on a new path to a peer:
+
+* Set the ECT(0) codepoint in the IP header of early outgoing packets sent on a
+  new path to the peer {{!RFC8311}}.
+
+* If all packets that were sent with the ECT(0) codepoint are eventually deemed
+  lost {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, validation is deemed to have failed.
+
+To reduce the chances of misinterpreting congestive loss as packets dropped by a
+faulty network element, an endpoint could set the ECT(0) codepoint in the first
+ten outgoing packets on a path, or for a period of three RTTs, whichever occurs
+first.  Alternate strategies are possible.  For example, an endpoint could send
+the first ten packets interleaved: five ECT(0)-marked packets interleaved with
+five unmarked packets.  This allows the endpoint to more clearly identify
+congestive loss as such.  Implementations MAY experiment with and use other

I'd drop the "For example" and "This allows the endpoint to more clearly identity" sentences.  Also the "Alternate strategies" as well.

> +
+* If all packets that were sent with the ECT(0) codepoint are eventually deemed
+  lost {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, validation is deemed to have failed.
+
+To reduce the chances of misinterpreting congestive loss as packets dropped by a
+faulty network element, an endpoint could set the ECT(0) codepoint in the first
+ten outgoing packets on a path, or for a period of three RTTs, whichever occurs
+first.  Alternate strategies are possible.  For example, an endpoint could send
+the first ten packets interleaved: five ECT(0)-marked packets interleaved with
+five unmarked packets.  This allows the endpoint to more clearly identify
+congestive loss as such.  Implementations MAY experiment with and use other
+strategies.
+
+#### Receiving ACK Frames
+
+An endpoint that sets ECT(0) or ECT(1) codepoints on packets it transmits MUST

We only mention ECT(0) up to here.  I think that we want to either mention ECT(1) in the previous section (under experimentation) or warm up to it somehow.

>  
 * Any increase in either ECT(0) or ECT(1) counts, plus any increase in the CE
   count, MUST be no smaller than the number of packets sent with the
   corresponding ECT codepoint that are newly acknowledged in this ACK frame.
   This step detects any erroneous network remarking from ECT(0) to ECT(1) (or
   vice versa).
 
+Processing counts out of order can result in validation failure.  An endpoint

```suggestion
Processing ECN counts out of order can result in validation failure.  An endpoint
```

>  
 * Any increase in either ECT(0) or ECT(1) counts, plus any increase in the CE
   count, MUST be no smaller than the number of packets sent with the
   corresponding ECT codepoint that are newly acknowledged in this ACK frame.
   This step detects any erroneous network remarking from ECT(0) to ECT(1) (or
   vice versa).
 
+Processing counts out of order can result in validation failure.  An endpoint
+SHOULD NOT perform this validation if the ACK frame is received in a packet with
+packet number lower than a previously received ACK frame.  Validating based on

You still have the packet number thing that we talked about removing in favour of increased largest acknowledged...

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<p>In <a href=3D"https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2752#discussi=
on_r310931531">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>=0D
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-To verify both that a path supports ECN and the peer can provide ECN fee=
dback,=0D
-an endpoint sets the ECT(0) codepoint in the IP header of all outgoing=0D=

-packets {{!RFC8311}}.=0D
+ECN validation is local to a path, and MUST be independently performed f=
or each=0D
</pre>=0D
=E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D
<pre style=3D"color: #555">-ECN validation is local to a path, and MUST b=
e independently performed for each=0D
+Endpoints validate ECN for packets sent on each network path independent=
ly.=0D
</pre>=0D
=0D
=0D
<hr>=0D
=0D
<p>In <a href=3D"https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2752#discussi=
on_r310931619">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>=0D
<pre style=3D'color:#555'>&gt;  =0D
-To verify both that a path supports ECN and the peer can provide ECN fee=
dback,=0D
-an endpoint sets the ECT(0) codepoint in the IP header of all outgoing=0D=

-packets {{!RFC8311}}.=0D
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or each=0D
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<pre style=3D"color: #555">-path from an endpoint to its peer.  An endpoi=
nt thus independently validates ECN=0D
+An endpoint thus validates ECN=0D
</pre>=0D
=0D
=0D
<hr>=0D
=0D
<p>In <a href=3D"https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2752#discussi=
on_r310931828">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>=0D
<pre style=3D'color:#555'>&gt;  =0D
-If an ECT codepoint set in the IP header is not corrupted by a network d=
evice,=0D
-then a received packet contains either the codepoint sent by the peer or=
 the=0D
-Congestion Experienced (CE) codepoint set by a network device that is=0D=

-experiencing congestion.=0D
+Even if an endpoint does not use ECN markings on packets it transmits, t=
he=0D
+endpoint SHOULD provide feedback about ECN markings received from the pe=
er if=0D
</pre>=0D
<p>No need to SHOULD here.</p>=0D
=E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D
<pre style=3D"color: #555">-endpoint SHOULD provide feedback about ECN ma=
rkings received from the peer if=0D
+endpoint MUST provide feedback about ECN markings received from the peer=
 if=0D
</pre>=0D
=0D
=0D
<hr>=0D
=0D
<p>In <a href=3D"https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2752#discussi=
on_r310931941">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>=0D
<pre style=3D'color:#555'>&gt;  =0D
-If an ECT codepoint set in the IP header is not corrupted by a network d=
evice,=0D
-then a received packet contains either the codepoint sent by the peer or=
 the=0D
-Congestion Experienced (CE) codepoint set by a network device that is=0D=

-experiencing congestion.=0D
+Even if an endpoint does not use ECN markings on packets it transmits, t=
he=0D
+endpoint SHOULD provide feedback about ECN markings received from the pe=
er if=0D
+they are accessible. Not doing so will cause the peer to disable ECN mar=
king.=0D
</pre>=0D
=E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D
<pre style=3D"color: #555">-they are accessible. Not doing so will cause =
the peer to disable ECN marking.=0D
+they are accessible. Failing to report ECN counts will cause the peer to=
 disable ECN marking.=0D
</pre>=0D
=0D
=0D
<hr>=0D
=0D
<p>In <a href=3D"https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2752#discussi=
on_r310932675">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>=0D
<pre style=3D'color:#555'>&gt; +To start ECN validation, an endpoint SHOU=
LD do the following when sending=0D
+packets on a new path to a peer:=0D
+=0D
+* Set the ECT(0) codepoint in the IP header of early outgoing packets se=
nt on a=0D
+  new path to the peer {{!RFC8311}}.=0D
+=0D
+* If all packets that were sent with the ECT(0) codepoint are eventually=
 deemed=0D
+  lost {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, validation is deemed to have failed.=0D
+=0D
+To reduce the chances of misinterpreting congestive loss as packets drop=
ped by a=0D
+faulty network element, an endpoint could set the ECT(0) codepoint in th=
e first=0D
+ten outgoing packets on a path, or for a period of three RTTs, whichever=
 occurs=0D
+first.  Alternate strategies are possible.  For example, an endpoint cou=
ld send=0D
+the first ten packets interleaved: five ECT(0)-marked packets interleave=
d with=0D
+five unmarked packets.  This allows the endpoint to more clearly identif=
y=0D
+congestive loss as such.  Implementations MAY experiment with and use ot=
her=0D
</pre>=0D
<p>I'd drop the "For example" and "This allows the endpoint to more clear=
ly identity" sentences.  Also the "Alternate strategies" as well.</p>=0D
=0D
<hr>=0D
=0D
<p>In <a href=3D"https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2752#discussi=
on_r310933115">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>=0D
<pre style=3D'color:#555'>&gt; +=0D
+* If all packets that were sent with the ECT(0) codepoint are eventually=
 deemed=0D
+  lost {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, validation is deemed to have failed.=0D
+=0D
+To reduce the chances of misinterpreting congestive loss as packets drop=
ped by a=0D
+faulty network element, an endpoint could set the ECT(0) codepoint in th=
e first=0D
+ten outgoing packets on a path, or for a period of three RTTs, whichever=
 occurs=0D
+first.  Alternate strategies are possible.  For example, an endpoint cou=
ld send=0D
+the first ten packets interleaved: five ECT(0)-marked packets interleave=
d with=0D
+five unmarked packets.  This allows the endpoint to more clearly identif=
y=0D
+congestive loss as such.  Implementations MAY experiment with and use ot=
her=0D
+strategies.=0D
+=0D
+#### Receiving ACK Frames=0D
+=0D
+An endpoint that sets ECT(0) or ECT(1) codepoints on packets it transmit=
s MUST=0D
</pre>=0D
<p>We only mention ECT(0) up to here.  I think that we want to either men=
tion ECT(1) in the previous section (under experimentation) or warm up to=
 it somehow.</p>=0D
=0D
<hr>=0D
=0D
<p>In <a href=3D"https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2752#discussi=
on_r310934076">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>=0D
<pre style=3D'color:#555'>&gt;  =0D
 * Any increase in either ECT(0) or ECT(1) counts, plus any increase in t=
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   This step detects any erroneous network remarking from ECT(0) to ECT(1=
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+Processing counts out of order can result in validation failure.  An end=
point=0D
</pre>=0D
=E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D
<pre style=3D"color: #555">-Processing counts out of order can result in =
validation failure.  An endpoint=0D
+Processing ECN counts out of order can result in validation failure.  An=
 endpoint=0D
</pre>=0D
=0D
=0D
<hr>=0D
=0D
<p>In <a href=3D"https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2752#discussi=
on_r310934240">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>=0D
<pre style=3D'color:#555'>&gt;  =0D
 * Any increase in either ECT(0) or ECT(1) counts, plus any increase in t=
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ame.=0D
   This step detects any erroneous network remarking from ECT(0) to ECT(1=
) (or=0D
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+Processing counts out of order can result in validation failure.  An end=
point=0D
+SHOULD NOT perform this validation if the ACK frame is received in a pac=
ket with=0D
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sed on=0D
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> First, there is no 7-bit encoding. It's 8 bits, 16, 24, and 32.=0D
> =0D
> Also, there is no guarantee that following the advice in the spec is su=
fficient either. You can diligently follow the spec requirements and stil=
l have <1RTT worth of reordering cause problems if you suddenly increase =
the rate of sending packets. If you were sending 8-bit packet numbers, th=
en you suddenly send far more than 128 packets within an RTT, a strict in=
terpretation of the spec might still lead to most of those packets being =
sent with 8-bit packet numbers. If any of those packets with 8-bit number=
s is reordered/delayed by more than 127 packets, then it will be decoded =
incorrectly when it arrives.=0D
> =0D
> That leads to spurious loss, which is repaired very quickly, but it is =
less than optimal. To do this perfectly, you have to predict future send =
rates, which is hard.=0D
> =0D
> But we have discussed this in the past. I don't see any new information=
 either. I'm going to recommend no action on this one.=0D
=0D
Yes, I saw the encoding bits number has been changed to 8, 16, 24, 32. So=
 this issue will only happen when more than 128 packets number is reorder=
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=0D
I can not understand what =E2=80=9CThat leads to spurious loss, which is =
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<p>First, there is no 7-bit encoding. It's 8 bits, 16, 24, and 32.</p>=0D=

<p>Also, there is no guarantee that following the advice in the spec is s=
ufficient either. You can diligently follow the spec requirements and sti=
ll have &lt;1RTT worth of reordering cause problems if you suddenly incre=
ase the rate of sending packets. If you were sending 8-bit packet numbers=
, then you suddenly send far more than 128 packets within an RTT, a stric=
t interpretation of the spec might still lead to most of those packets be=
ing sent with 8-bit packet numbers. If any of those packets with 8-bit nu=
mbers is reordered/delayed by more than 127 packets, then it will be deco=
ded incorrectly when it arrives.</p>=0D
<p>That leads to spurious loss, which is repaired very quickly, but it is=
 less than optimal. To do this perfectly, you have to predict future send=
 rates, which is hard.</p>=0D
<p>But we have discussed this in the past. I don't see any new informatio=
n either. I'm going to recommend no action on this one.</p>=0D
</blockquote>=0D
<p>Yes, I saw the encoding bits number has been changed to 8, 16, 24, 32.=
 So this issue will only happen when more than 128 packets number is reor=
dered.</p>=0D
<p>I can not understand what =E2=80=9CThat leads to spurious loss, which =
is repaired very quickly=E2=80=9D means.</p>=0D
<p>Once this issue happens, the related connection may be idle for ever a=
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mirjak commented on this pull request.



> -setting ECT codepoints in subsequent packets.  Doing so allows the connection to
-be resilient to network elements that corrupt ECN codepoints in the IP header or
-drop packets with ECT or CE codepoints in the IP header.
+#### Validation Outcomes
+
+If validation fails, then the endpoint stops sending ECN markings in subsequent
+IP packets with the expectation that either the network path or the peer does
+not support ECN.
+
+Upon successful validation, an endpoint can continue to set ECT codepoints in
+subsequent packets with the expectation that the path is ECN-capable.  Network
+routing and path elements can change mid-connection however; an endpoint MUST
+disable ECN if validation fails at any point in the connection.
+
+Even if validation fails, an endpoint MAY re-validate ECN on the same path to
+the peer at any later time in the connection.

Maybe also add another sentence that it should revalidate on path change?

> +To start ECN validation, an endpoint SHOULD do the following when sending
+packets on a new path to a peer:
+
+* Set the ECT(0) codepoint in the IP header of early outgoing packets sent on a
+  new path to the peer {{!RFC8311}}.
+
+* If all packets that were sent with the ECT(0) codepoint are eventually deemed
+  lost {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, validation is deemed to have failed.
+
+To reduce the chances of misinterpreting congestive loss as packets dropped by a
+faulty network element, an endpoint could set the ECT(0) codepoint in the first
+ten outgoing packets on a path, or for a period of three RTTs, whichever occurs
+first.  Alternate strategies are possible.  For example, an endpoint could send
+the first ten packets interleaved: five ECT(0)-marked packets interleaved with
+five unmarked packets.  This allows the endpoint to more clearly identify
+congestive loss as such.  Implementations MAY experiment with and use other

I would also like to see the easiest option spelled out: just enable ECN on all outgoing packet as dropping is rare and it can/will be disabled anytime when no ECN feedback is received. 

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<p><b>@mirjak</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2752#discussion_r310955480">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; -setting ECT codepoints in subsequent packets.  Doing so allows the connection to
-be resilient to network elements that corrupt ECN codepoints in the IP header or
-drop packets with ECT or CE codepoints in the IP header.
+#### Validation Outcomes
+
+If validation fails, then the endpoint stops sending ECN markings in subsequent
+IP packets with the expectation that either the network path or the peer does
+not support ECN.
+
+Upon successful validation, an endpoint can continue to set ECT codepoints in
+subsequent packets with the expectation that the path is ECN-capable.  Network
+routing and path elements can change mid-connection however; an endpoint MUST
+disable ECN if validation fails at any point in the connection.
+
+Even if validation fails, an endpoint MAY re-validate ECN on the same path to
+the peer at any later time in the connection.
</pre>
<p>Maybe also add another sentence that it should revalidate on path change?</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2752#discussion_r310956294">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +To start ECN validation, an endpoint SHOULD do the following when sending
+packets on a new path to a peer:
+
+* Set the ECT(0) codepoint in the IP header of early outgoing packets sent on a
+  new path to the peer {{!RFC8311}}.
+
+* If all packets that were sent with the ECT(0) codepoint are eventually deemed
+  lost {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, validation is deemed to have failed.
+
+To reduce the chances of misinterpreting congestive loss as packets dropped by a
+faulty network element, an endpoint could set the ECT(0) codepoint in the first
+ten outgoing packets on a path, or for a period of three RTTs, whichever occurs
+first.  Alternate strategies are possible.  For example, an endpoint could send
+the first ten packets interleaved: five ECT(0)-marked packets interleaved with
+five unmarked packets.  This allows the endpoint to more clearly identify
+congestive loss as such.  Implementations MAY experiment with and use other
</pre>
<p>I would also like to see the easiest option spelled out: just enable ECN on all outgoing packet as dropping is rare and it can/will be disabled anytime when no ECN feedback is received.</p>

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You can recover from the situation, because packets are decoded relative to the largest packet number processed.  So the sender has to ensure the gap between the largest acked in that PN space and the PN currently being sent is smaller than 

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<p>You can recover from the situation, because packets are decoded relative to the largest packet number processed.  So the sender has to ensure the gap between the largest acked in that PN space and the PN currently being sent is smaller than</p>
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This text is moving drafts in #2916, so it might make sense to land that first?  Or I I can pull this change in after it lands.



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<p><b>@ianswett</b> approved this pull request.</p>

<p>This text is moving drafts in <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="470784626" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2916" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2916/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2916">#2916</a>, so it might make sense to land that first?  Or I I can pull this change in after it lands.</p>

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ianswett commented on this pull request.



> +
+When implementing the client role, applications need to be able to:
+
+- open a connection, which begins the exchange described in {{handshake}};
+- enable 0-RTT; and
+- be informed when 0-RTT has been accepted or rejected by a server.
+
+When implementing the server role, applications need to be able to:
+
+- listen for incoming connections, which prepares for the exchange described in
+  {{handshake}};
+- if Early Data is supported, embed application-controlled data in the TLS
+  resumption ticket sent to the client; and
+- if Early Data is supported, retrieve application-controlled data from the
+  client's resumption ticket and enable rejecting Early Data based on that
+  information.

Agreed, I think it's only yes/no about the current state of the connection.

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<p><b>@ianswett</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2857#discussion_r311285561">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +
+When implementing the client role, applications need to be able to:
+
+- open a connection, which begins the exchange described in {{handshake}};
+- enable 0-RTT; and
+- be informed when 0-RTT has been accepted or rejected by a server.
+
+When implementing the server role, applications need to be able to:
+
+- listen for incoming connections, which prepares for the exchange described in
+  {{handshake}};
+- if Early Data is supported, embed application-controlled data in the TLS
+  resumption ticket sent to the client; and
+- if Early Data is supported, retrieve application-controlled data from the
+  client&#39;s resumption ticket and enable rejecting Early Data based on that
+  information.
</pre>
<p>Agreed, I think it's only yes/no about the current state of the connection.</p>

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ianswett commented on this pull request.



> @@ -1101,6 +1132,41 @@ suggested structure:
 -->
 
 
+## Required Operations on Connections
+
+There are certain operations which an application MUST be able to perform when
+interacting with the QUIC transport.  This document does not specify an API, but
+any implementation of this version of QUIC MUST expose the ability to perform
+the operations described in this section on a QUIC connection.
+
+When implementing the client role, applications need to be able to:
+
+- open a connection, which begins the exchange described in {{handshake}};
+- enable 0-RTT; and
+- be informed when 0-RTT has been accepted or rejected by a server.

Good point.  I still think the client needs to know when 1-RTT data can be sent, because it may want to send some data in 0-RTT but not other data.

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<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2857#discussion_r311285873">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1101,6 +1132,41 @@ suggested structure:
 --&gt;
 
 
+## Required Operations on Connections
+
+There are certain operations which an application MUST be able to perform when
+interacting with the QUIC transport.  This document does not specify an API, but
+any implementation of this version of QUIC MUST expose the ability to perform
+the operations described in this section on a QUIC connection.
+
+When implementing the client role, applications need to be able to:
+
+- open a connection, which begins the exchange described in {{handshake}};
+- enable 0-RTT; and
+- be informed when 0-RTT has been accepted or rejected by a server.
</pre>
<p>Good point.  I still think the client needs to know when 1-RTT data can be sent, because it may want to send some data in 0-RTT but not other data.</p>

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ianswett commented on this pull request.



> +
+- listen for incoming connections, which prepares for the exchange described in
+  {{handshake}};
+- if Early Data is supported, embed application-controlled data in the TLS
+  resumption ticket sent to the client; and
+- if Early Data is supported, retrieve application-controlled data from the
+  client's resumption ticket and enable rejecting Early Data based on that
+  information.
+
+In either role, applications need to be able to:
+
+- configure minimum values for the initial number of permitted streams of each
+  type, as communicated in the transport parameters ({{transport-parameters}});
+- control resource allocation of various types, including flow control and the
+  number of permitted streams of each type;
+- identify whether the handshake has completed successfully or is still ongoing

I think it'd be nice to clarify that a reason for this bullet is to know it can send data in 1-RTT.

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<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2857#discussion_r311286258">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +
+- listen for incoming connections, which prepares for the exchange described in
+  {{handshake}};
+- if Early Data is supported, embed application-controlled data in the TLS
+  resumption ticket sent to the client; and
+- if Early Data is supported, retrieve application-controlled data from the
+  client&#39;s resumption ticket and enable rejecting Early Data based on that
+  information.
+
+In either role, applications need to be able to:
+
+- configure minimum values for the initial number of permitted streams of each
+  type, as communicated in the transport parameters ({{transport-parameters}});
+- control resource allocation of various types, including flow control and the
+  number of permitted streams of each type;
+- identify whether the handshake has completed successfully or is still ongoing
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<p>I think it'd be nice to clarify that a reason for this bullet is to know it can send data in 1-RTT.</p>

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ianswett approved this pull request.

Some small suggestions, but looks good overall.



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<p><b>@ianswett</b> approved this pull request.</p>

<p>Some small suggestions, but looks good overall.</p>

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92b18b1d63b4c6974fe133f663be50312b78bb79  Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md


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Looks good -- a few nits to address

> @@ -376,26 +298,25 @@ min_rtt is set to the latest_rtt on the first sample in a connection, and to the
 lesser of min_rtt and latest_rtt on subsequent samples.
 
 An endpoint uses only locally observed times in computing the min_rtt and does
-not adjust for host delays reported by the peer ({{host-delay}}).  Doing so
-allows the endpoint to set a lower bound for the smoothed_rtt based entirely on
-what it observes (see {{smoothed-rtt}}), and limits potential underestimation
-due to erroneously-reported delays by the peer.
+not adjust for host delays reported by the peer.  Doing so allows the endpoint

why remove this ref? Can you add the right ref in the transport doc?

> @@ -2947,6 +2997,25 @@ to unnecessarily retransmit some data.  Standard QUIC algorithms
 acknowledged.  Therefore, the receiver SHOULD repeatedly acknowledge newly
 received packets in preference to packets received in the past.
 
+### Measuring and Reporting Host Delay {#host-delay}
+
+An endpoint measures the delays intentionally introduced between when an
+ACK-eliciting packet is received and the corresponding acknowledgment is sent.
+The endpoint encodes this delay for the largest acknowledged packet in the
+Ack Delay field of an ACK frame (see Section 19.3). This allows the receiver

change "Section 19.1" to a real reference

> @@ -2947,6 +2997,25 @@ to unnecessarily retransmit some data.  Standard QUIC algorithms
 acknowledged.  Therefore, the receiver SHOULD repeatedly acknowledge newly
 received packets in preference to packets received in the past.
 
+### Measuring and Reporting Host Delay {#host-delay}
+
+An endpoint measures the delays intentionally introduced between when an
+ACK-eliciting packet is received and the corresponding acknowledgment is sent.
+The endpoint encodes this delay for the largest acknowledged packet in the
+Ack Delay field of an ACK frame (see Section 19.3). This allows the receiver
+of the ACK to adjust for any intentional delays, which is important for
+delayed acknowledgements, when estimating the path RTT. A packet might be
+held in the OS kernel or elsewhere on the host before being processed.
+An endpoint SHOULD NOT include these unintentional delays when populating
+the Ack Delay field in an ACK frame.
+
+An endpoint MUST NOT excessively delay acknowledgements of ack-eliciting
+packets.  The maximum ack delay is communicated in the max_ack_delay transport
+parameter; see Section 18.1.  max_ack_delay implies an explicit contract:

change to a real reference

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<p><b>@janaiyengar</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<p>Looks good -- a few nits to address</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2916#discussion_r311290325">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -376,26 +298,25 @@ min_rtt is set to the latest_rtt on the first sample in a connection, and to the
 lesser of min_rtt and latest_rtt on subsequent samples.
 
 An endpoint uses only locally observed times in computing the min_rtt and does
-not adjust for host delays reported by the peer ({{host-delay}}).  Doing so
-allows the endpoint to set a lower bound for the smoothed_rtt based entirely on
-what it observes (see {{smoothed-rtt}}), and limits potential underestimation
-due to erroneously-reported delays by the peer.
+not adjust for host delays reported by the peer.  Doing so allows the endpoint
</pre>
<p>why remove this ref? Can you add the right ref in the transport doc?</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2916#discussion_r311291597">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -2947,6 +2997,25 @@ to unnecessarily retransmit some data.  Standard QUIC algorithms
 acknowledged.  Therefore, the receiver SHOULD repeatedly acknowledge newly
 received packets in preference to packets received in the past.
 
+### Measuring and Reporting Host Delay {#host-delay}
+
+An endpoint measures the delays intentionally introduced between when an
+ACK-eliciting packet is received and the corresponding acknowledgment is sent.
+The endpoint encodes this delay for the largest acknowledged packet in the
+Ack Delay field of an ACK frame (see Section 19.3). This allows the receiver
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<p>change "Section 19.1" to a real reference</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2916#discussion_r311291661">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -2947,6 +2997,25 @@ to unnecessarily retransmit some data.  Standard QUIC algorithms
 acknowledged.  Therefore, the receiver SHOULD repeatedly acknowledge newly
 received packets in preference to packets received in the past.
 
+### Measuring and Reporting Host Delay {#host-delay}
+
+An endpoint measures the delays intentionally introduced between when an
+ACK-eliciting packet is received and the corresponding acknowledgment is sent.
+The endpoint encodes this delay for the largest acknowledged packet in the
+Ack Delay field of an ACK frame (see Section 19.3). This allows the receiver
+of the ACK to adjust for any intentional delays, which is important for
+delayed acknowledgements, when estimating the path RTT. A packet might be
+held in the OS kernel or elsewhere on the host before being processed.
+An endpoint SHOULD NOT include these unintentional delays when populating
+the Ack Delay field in an ACK frame.
+
+An endpoint MUST NOT excessively delay acknowledgements of ack-eliciting
+packets.  The maximum ack delay is communicated in the max_ack_delay transport
+parameter; see Section 18.1.  max_ack_delay implies an explicit contract:
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<p>This is out-of-scope for HTTP/3.  It's not an existing part of HTTP semantics, and the use-case is addressed by extensions and/or protocols on top of HTTP/3.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/more2685
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
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      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e3e0d51ac2c99b7adb105f2a9e1fdbe51779f686
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2019-08-06 (Tue, 06 Aug 2019)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Apply suggestions from code review

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Reopened #2151.

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<p>Reopened <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="390828545" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2151" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2151/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2151">#2151</a>.</p>

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Please don't close design issues; we need to follow the process to assure that they reflect consensus.

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<p>Please don't close design issues; we need to follow the process to assure that they reflect consensus.</p>

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Reopened #2541.

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In the interest of moving forward with a solution that we have some experience with and resolving both #2945 and #2790 I(and some of the editors) suggest we say the server MUST send SETTINGS if it wants to do 0-RTT and the client SHOULD/MUST not attempt 0-RTT if it hasn't yet received SETTINGS.

This would motivate servers to sent SETTINGS immediately and removes any possibility of the client and server state getting out of sync, as @nharper detailed in #2790 

I find some of the other ideas presented here appealing, but they all require substantial changes and none of them are obviously better in my opinion.

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I agree on making progress. However, maybe I'm I'm failing to see how the suggestions address the points that @kazuho captured when making this issue. If we ignore 0-RTT, client and server sending of SETTINGS in the simple 1-RTT case can still end in a bit of a deadlock.

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That's a good point, let me craft something up and I'll update the PR soon.

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<p>That's a good point, let me craft something up and I'll update the PR soon.</p>

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@mnot Apologies for asking @mjoras to close the issue. Sounds like I misunderstood the process here. Is the process documented somewhere or is this just common sense that I might be missing?

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Requiring that the server send SETTINGS as soon as possible doesn't solve the fact that they can be reordered in flight and arrive after session tickets, requiring the client to process session tickets asynchronously.

I agree that requiring SETTINGS to be sent early is a good idea, but I'm not sure it's enough.

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<p>Requiring that the server send SETTINGS as soon as possible doesn't solve the fact that they can be reordered in flight and arrive after session tickets, requiring the client to process session tickets asynchronously.</p>
<p>I agree that requiring SETTINGS to be sent early is a good idea, but I'm not sure it's enough.</p>

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I agree with David: requiring SETTINGS be sent early doesn't solve the reordering issue w.r.t. NewSessionTickets.

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<p>I agree with David: requiring SETTINGS be sent early doesn't solve the reordering issue w.r.t. NewSessionTickets.</p>

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My understanding is there is currently a correctness issue in regards to NST and SETTINGS, but there is no actual deadlock if a server sends SETTINGS really late or not at all(and doesn't do 0-RTT).  A client can decide to wait until SETTINGS are received before making a request in order to use the QPACK dynamic table, but it comes with the risk that you delay requests for an unknown period of time.  If implementations send requests as soon as possible and make optimal decisions given what they know at the time, then there's no deadlock, correct? 

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<p>My understanding is there is currently a correctness issue in regards to NST and SETTINGS, but there is no actual deadlock if a server sends SETTINGS really late or not at all(and doesn't do 0-RTT).  A client can decide to wait until SETTINGS are received before making a request in order to use the QPACK dynamic table, but it comes with the risk that you delay requests for an unknown period of time.  If implementations send requests as soon as possible and make optimal decisions given what they know at the time, then there's no deadlock, correct?</p>

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The server might wait until it receives the client SETTINGS in order to make use of the dynamic table in the response. If the client doesn't want to send SETTINGS, the connection might idle time out.


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<p>The server might wait until it receives the client SETTINGS in order to make use of the dynamic table in the response. If the client doesn't want to send SETTINGS, the connection might idle time out.</p>

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The primary use case for disable_active_migration is that load balancing infrastructure cannot support any changes to the 4-tuple, intentional or otherwise. So in this case if a peer still changes its tuples, the packets may hit a a new server endpoint that doesn't have any existing state, and will generate a stateless reset? 

I'd like to hold consensus on this issue until this is clarified in the text. 

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<p>The primary use case for disable_active_migration is that load balancing infrastructure cannot support any changes to the 4-tuple, intentional or otherwise. So in this case if a peer still changes its tuples, the packets may hit a a new server endpoint that doesn't have any existing state, and will generate a stateless reset?</p>
<p>I'd like to hold consensus on this issue until this is clarified in the text.</p>

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@pravb I think we got to the point where either (a) the packets miraculously get to the right place and then the endpoint can choose to either honor them or drop them or (b) they don't, in which case that's sad, but that's what happens when your infrastructure doesn't handle NAT rebinding or any other changes to the 4-tuple.

In neither case do you want to close the connection with an error, in case someone else has injected a packet with a different source address.

Note https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#rfc.section.21.8
>21.8. Stateless Reset Oracle
>Stateless resets create a possible denial of service attack analogous to a TCP reset injection. This attack is possible if an attacker is able to cause a stateless reset token to be generated for a connection with a selected connection ID. An attacker that can cause this token to be generated can reset an active connection with the same connection ID.
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>If a packet can be routed to different instances that share a static key, for example by changing an IP address or port, then an attacker can cause the server to send a stateless reset. To defend against this style of denial service, endpoints that share a static key for stateless reset (see Section 10.4.2) MUST be arranged so that packets with a given connection ID always arrive at an instance that has connection state, unless that connection is no longer active.

Should you be in a situation where the client will accept your stateless reset for a connection that's active if someone spoofs a source address and the packet ends up on a server that has no state? If that can happen, that seems like we should open a new issue, since that's something that can happen at any time (although seems to me to be pretty much covered by the text in 21.8).

The point of this change is to be clear that the purpose of the TP is to instruct the endpoint sending the packets to not intentionally change its address or port, but that the server receiving the packets (if for whatever reason they still get there) needs to not close the connection if it sees that happening. It can drop the offending packets, or process them, but it's a problem if it does the previous behavior which was to close the connection.

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<p><a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/hovercards?user_id=12821832" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/pravb">@pravb</a> I think we got to the point where either (a) the packets miraculously get to the right place and then the endpoint can choose to either honor them or drop them or (b) they don't, in which case that's sad, but that's what happens when your infrastructure doesn't handle NAT rebinding or any other changes to the 4-tuple.</p>
<p>In neither case do you want to close the connection with an error, in case someone else has injected a packet with a different source address.</p>
<p>Note <a href="https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#rfc.section.21.8" rel="nofollow">https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#rfc.section.21.8</a></p>
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<p>21.8. Stateless Reset Oracle<br>
Stateless resets create a possible denial of service attack analogous to a TCP reset injection. This attack is possible if an attacker is able to cause a stateless reset token to be generated for a connection with a selected connection ID. An attacker that can cause this token to be generated can reset an active connection with the same connection ID.</p>
<p>If a packet can be routed to different instances that share a static key, for example by changing an IP address or port, then an attacker can cause the server to send a stateless reset. To defend against this style of denial service, endpoints that share a static key for stateless reset (see Section 10.4.2) MUST be arranged so that packets with a given connection ID always arrive at an instance that has connection state, unless that connection is no longer active.</p>
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<p>Should you be in a situation where the client will accept your stateless reset for a connection that's active if someone spoofs a source address and the packet ends up on a server that has no state? If that can happen, that seems like we should open a new issue, since that's something that can happen at any time (although seems to me to be pretty much covered by the text in 21.8).</p>
<p>The point of this change is to be clear that the purpose of the TP is to instruct the endpoint sending the packets to not intentionally change its address or port, but that the server receiving the packets (if for whatever reason they still get there) needs to not close the connection if it sees that happening. It can drop the offending packets, or process them, but it's a problem if it does the previous behavior which was to close the connection.</p>

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> The sender MUST use a packet number size able to represent more than twice as large a range than the difference between the largest acknowledged packet and packet number being sent.

"The sender MUST use a packet number size able to represent more than twice as large a range than the difference between the largest acknowledged packet and packet number being sent." This does not make sense. In my example, the sender used 8 bits length firstly and when the sender found the 8 bits length is not enough for in flight packets, it began to use 16 bits length. The issue still exists. We can not predict how many packets will be sent by application for now. Once we have used 8 bits length, we can only send 127 packets in flight and wait for response, though the congestion control and stream control allows us to send more than 127 packets and we have more packets to be sent, we can not send one packet more until received ACK. Changing bits length from 8 to 16 at this moment does not resolve this issue. 


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<p>The sender MUST use a packet number size able to represent more than twice as large a range than the difference between the largest acknowledged packet and packet number being sent.</p>
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<p>"The sender MUST use a packet number size able to represent more than twice as large a range than the difference between the largest acknowledged packet and packet number being sent." This does not make sense. In my example, the sender used 8 bits length firstly and when the sender found the 8 bits length is not enough for in flight packets, it began to use 16 bits length. The issue still exists. We can not predict how many packets will be sent by application for now. Once we have used 8 bits length, we can only send 127 packets in flight and wait for response, though the congestion control and stream control allows us to send more than 127 packets and we have more packets to be sent, we can not send one packet more until received ACK. Changing bits length from 8 to 16 at this moment does not resolve this issue.</p>

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> Once we have used 8 bits length, we can only send 127 packets in flight and wait for response, though the congestion control and stream control allows us to send more than 127 packets and we have more packets to be sent, we can not send one packet more until received ACK. Changing bits length from 8 to 16 at this moment does not resolve this issue.

It **does not** resolve the issue that some of the 8-bit packets might be reordered and will end up undecryptable. It **does** solve the issue that at least the 16-bit packets will decode correctly, so the connection will make forward progress.

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<p>It <strong>does not</strong> resolve the issue that some of the 8-bit packets might be reordered and will end up undecryptable. It <strong>does</strong> solve the issue that at least the 16-bit packets will decode correctly, so the connection will make forward progress.</p>
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> -setting ECT codepoints in subsequent packets.  Doing so allows the connection to
-be resilient to network elements that corrupt ECN codepoints in the IP header or
-drop packets with ECT or CE codepoints in the IP header.
+#### Validation Outcomes
+
+If validation fails, then the endpoint stops sending ECN markings in subsequent
+IP packets with the expectation that either the network path or the peer does
+not support ECN.
+
+Upon successful validation, an endpoint can continue to set ECT codepoints in
+subsequent packets with the expectation that the path is ECN-capable.  Network
+routing and path elements can change mid-connection however; an endpoint MUST
+disable ECN if validation fails at any point in the connection.
+
+Even if validation fails, an endpoint MAY re-validate ECN on the same path to
+the peer at any later time in the connection.

That would be confusing.  ECN validation is performed on a per-path basis.

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<p><b>@martinthomson</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2752#discussion_r311342565">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; -setting ECT codepoints in subsequent packets.  Doing so allows the connection to
-be resilient to network elements that corrupt ECN codepoints in the IP header or
-drop packets with ECT or CE codepoints in the IP header.
+#### Validation Outcomes
+
+If validation fails, then the endpoint stops sending ECN markings in subsequent
+IP packets with the expectation that either the network path or the peer does
+not support ECN.
+
+Upon successful validation, an endpoint can continue to set ECT codepoints in
+subsequent packets with the expectation that the path is ECN-capable.  Network
+routing and path elements can change mid-connection however; an endpoint MUST
+disable ECN if validation fails at any point in the connection.
+
+Even if validation fails, an endpoint MAY re-validate ECN on the same path to
+the peer at any later time in the connection.
</pre>
<p>That would be confusing.  ECN validation is performed on a per-path basis.</p>

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> > Once we have used 8 bits length, we can only send 127 packets in flight and wait for response, though the congestion control and stream control allows us to send more than 127 packets and we have more packets to be sent, we can not send one packet more until received ACK. Changing bits length from 8 to 16 at this moment does not resolve this issue.
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> It **does not** resolve the issue that some of the 8-bit packets might be reordered and will end up undecryptable. It **does** solve the issue that at least the 16-bit packets will decode correctly, so the connection will make forward progress.
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> Agreed on no action for this issue.

This issue will cause the receiver ""ACK the wrong packet number"" and the related stream will hang for ever. 

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<p>It <strong>does not</strong> resolve the issue that some of the 8-bit packets might be reordered and will end up undecryptable. It <strong>does</strong> solve the issue that at least the 16-bit packets will decode correctly, so the connection will make forward progress.</p>
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> > > Once we have used 8 bits length, we can only send 127 packets in flight and wait for response, though the congestion control and stream control allows us to send more than 127 packets and we have more packets to be sent, we can not send one packet more until received ACK. Changing bits length from 8 to 16 at this moment does not resolve this issue.
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> > It **does not** resolve the issue that some of the 8-bit packets might be reordered and will end up undecryptable. It **does** solve the issue that at least the 16-bit packets will decode correctly, so the connection will make forward progress.
> > Agreed on no action for this issue.
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> This issue will cause the receiver ""ACK the wrong packet number"" and the related stream will hang for ever.

If you want, I can explain why "ACK the wrong packet number" will cause the related stream hang

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<p>It <strong>does not</strong> resolve the issue that some of the 8-bit packets might be reordered and will end up undecryptable. It <strong>does</strong> solve the issue that at least the 16-bit packets will decode correctly, so the connection will make forward progress.<br>
Agreed on no action for this issue.</p>
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> @@ -2880,6 +2880,28 @@ packet.
 expectations about what implementations do with packets that have errors after
 valid frames? -->
 
+
+## Generating Acknowledgements {#generating-acks}
+
+An acknowledgement SHOULD be sent immediately upon receipt of a second
+ack-eliciting packet. QUIC recovery algorithms do not assume the peer sends
+an ACK immediately when receiving a second ack-eliciting packet.

This is an odd lead-in.  Do you want to start by saying a few more general things?

1. endpoints send acknowledgements for all packets they receive and process
2. loss recovery doesn't depend on immediate acknowledgment, but performance can be improved by acknowledging immediately in some cases
3. packets that aren't ack-eliciting are only acknowledged when sending an ACK for other reasons
4. there are recommendations to send immediate acknowledgments in a dazzling array of cases
   a. when receiving the second ack-eliciting packet
   b. when it appears as though there is loss or reordering, though not for every packet
   c. when new CRYPTO data is available to send (aka the incoming CRYPTO flight is outstanding)
   d. ...
5. When sending a packet for any reason, it's generally a good idea to send an ACK if one has not been sent recently.

> +Below is one recommended approach for determining what packets to include in an
+ACK frame.
+
+### Receiver Tracking of ACK Frames
+
+When a packet containing an ACK frame is sent, the largest acknowledged in that
+frame may be saved.  When a packet containing an ACK frame is acknowledged, the
+receiver can stop acknowledging packets less than or equal to the largest
+acknowledged in the sent ACK frame.
+
+In cases without ACK frame loss, this algorithm allows for a minimum of 1 RTT
+of reordering. In cases with ACK frame loss and reordering, this approach does
+not guarantee that every acknowledgement is seen by the sender before it is no
+longer included in the ACK frame. Packets could be received out of order and
+all subsequent ACK frames containing them could be lost. In this case, the
+loss recovery algorithm may cause spurious retransmits, but the sender will

```suggestion
loss recovery algorithm could cause spurious retransmits, but the sender will
```

> @@ -2947,6 +2997,25 @@ to unnecessarily retransmit some data.  Standard QUIC algorithms
 acknowledged.  Therefore, the receiver SHOULD repeatedly acknowledge newly
 received packets in preference to packets received in the past.
 
+### Measuring and Reporting Host Delay {#host-delay}
+
+An endpoint measures the delays intentionally introduced between when an
+ACK-eliciting packet is received and the corresponding acknowledgment is sent.
+The endpoint encodes this delay for the largest acknowledged packet in the
+Ack Delay field of an ACK frame (see Section 19.3). This allows the receiver

```suggestion
Ack Delay field of an ACK frame (see {{frame-ack}}). This allows the receiver
```

> @@ -2947,6 +2997,25 @@ to unnecessarily retransmit some data.  Standard QUIC algorithms
 acknowledged.  Therefore, the receiver SHOULD repeatedly acknowledge newly
 received packets in preference to packets received in the past.
 
+### Measuring and Reporting Host Delay {#host-delay}
+
+An endpoint measures the delays intentionally introduced between when an
+ACK-eliciting packet is received and the corresponding acknowledgment is sent.
+The endpoint encodes this delay for the largest acknowledged packet in the
+Ack Delay field of an ACK frame (see Section 19.3). This allows the receiver
+of the ACK to adjust for any intentional delays, which is important for
+delayed acknowledgements, when estimating the path RTT. A packet might be

I think that you mean "which is important for getting a better estimate of the path RTT when acknowledgments are delayed"

> @@ -2947,6 +2997,25 @@ to unnecessarily retransmit some data.  Standard QUIC algorithms
 acknowledged.  Therefore, the receiver SHOULD repeatedly acknowledge newly
 received packets in preference to packets received in the past.
 
+### Measuring and Reporting Host Delay {#host-delay}
+
+An endpoint measures the delays intentionally introduced between when an
+ACK-eliciting packet is received and the corresponding acknowledgment is sent.
+The endpoint encodes this delay for the largest acknowledged packet in the
+Ack Delay field of an ACK frame (see Section 19.3). This allows the receiver
+of the ACK to adjust for any intentional delays, which is important for
+delayed acknowledgements, when estimating the path RTT. A packet might be
+held in the OS kernel or elsewhere on the host before being processed.
+An endpoint SHOULD NOT include these unintentional delays when populating

```suggestion
An endpoint MUST NOT include delays that is does not control when populating
```

I think that we can use MUST NOT here.  Also, I think that outside of endpoint control is the key.

> @@ -2947,6 +2997,25 @@ to unnecessarily retransmit some data.  Standard QUIC algorithms
 acknowledged.  Therefore, the receiver SHOULD repeatedly acknowledge newly
 received packets in preference to packets received in the past.
 
+### Measuring and Reporting Host Delay {#host-delay}
+
+An endpoint measures the delays intentionally introduced between when an
+ACK-eliciting packet is received and the corresponding acknowledgment is sent.
+The endpoint encodes this delay for the largest acknowledged packet in the
+Ack Delay field of an ACK frame (see Section 19.3). This allows the receiver
+of the ACK to adjust for any intentional delays, which is important for
+delayed acknowledgements, when estimating the path RTT. A packet might be
+held in the OS kernel or elsewhere on the host before being processed.
+An endpoint SHOULD NOT include these unintentional delays when populating
+the Ack Delay field in an ACK frame.
+
+An endpoint MUST NOT excessively delay acknowledgements of ack-eliciting
+packets.  The maximum ack delay is communicated in the max_ack_delay transport

```suggestion
packets.  An endpoint commits to a maximum delay using the max_ack_delay transport
```

> @@ -2947,6 +2997,25 @@ to unnecessarily retransmit some data.  Standard QUIC algorithms
 acknowledged.  Therefore, the receiver SHOULD repeatedly acknowledge newly
 received packets in preference to packets received in the past.
 
+### Measuring and Reporting Host Delay {#host-delay}
+
+An endpoint measures the delays intentionally introduced between when an
+ACK-eliciting packet is received and the corresponding acknowledgment is sent.
+The endpoint encodes this delay for the largest acknowledged packet in the
+Ack Delay field of an ACK frame (see Section 19.3). This allows the receiver
+of the ACK to adjust for any intentional delays, which is important for
+delayed acknowledgements, when estimating the path RTT. A packet might be
+held in the OS kernel or elsewhere on the host before being processed.
+An endpoint SHOULD NOT include these unintentional delays when populating
+the Ack Delay field in an ACK frame.
+
+An endpoint MUST NOT excessively delay acknowledgements of ack-eliciting
+packets.  The maximum ack delay is communicated in the max_ack_delay transport
+parameter; see Section 18.1.  max_ack_delay implies an explicit contract:

```suggestion
parameter; see {{transport-parameter-definitions}}.  max_ack_delay implies an explicit contract:
```

> +An endpoint measures the delays intentionally introduced between when an
+ACK-eliciting packet is received and the corresponding acknowledgment is sent.
+The endpoint encodes this delay for the largest acknowledged packet in the
+Ack Delay field of an ACK frame (see Section 19.3). This allows the receiver
+of the ACK to adjust for any intentional delays, which is important for
+delayed acknowledgements, when estimating the path RTT. A packet might be
+held in the OS kernel or elsewhere on the host before being processed.
+An endpoint SHOULD NOT include these unintentional delays when populating
+the Ack Delay field in an ACK frame.
+
+An endpoint MUST NOT excessively delay acknowledgements of ack-eliciting
+packets.  The maximum ack delay is communicated in the max_ack_delay transport
+parameter; see Section 18.1.  max_ack_delay implies an explicit contract:
+an endpoint promises to never delay acknowledgments of an ack-eliciting packet
+by more than the indicated value. If it does, any excess accrues to the RTT
+estimate and could result in spurious retransmissions from the peer.

Do you really get spurious retransmissions if your estimate of RTT is too high?  I thought that the effect would just come down to poor performance, maybe over-commitment of memory, and that sort of thing.

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<p>In <a href=3D"https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2916#discussi=
on_r311344598">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>=0D
<pre style=3D'color:#555'>&gt; @@ -2880,6 +2880,28 @@ packet.=0D
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+## Generating Acknowledgements {#generating-acks}=0D
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+An acknowledgement SHOULD be sent immediately upon receipt of a second=0D=

+ack-eliciting packet. QUIC recovery algorithms do not assume the peer se=
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<p>This is an odd lead-in.  Do you want to start by saying a few more gen=
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<li>endpoints send acknowledgements for all packets they receive and proc=
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<li>loss recovery doesn't depend on immediate acknowledgment, but perform=
ance can be improved by acknowledging immediately in some cases</li>=0D
<li>packets that aren't ack-eliciting are only acknowledged when sending =
an ACK for other reasons</li>=0D
<li>there are recommendations to send immediate acknowledgments in a dazz=
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a. when receiving the second ack-eliciting packet<br>=0D
b. when it appears as though there is loss or reordering, though not for =
every packet<br>=0D
c. when new CRYPTO data is available to send (aka the incoming CRYPTO fli=
ght is outstanding)<br>=0D
d. ...</li>=0D
<li>When sending a packet for any reason, it's generally a good idea to s=
end an ACK if one has not been sent recently.</li>=0D
</ol>=0D
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<hr>=0D
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<p>In <a href=3D"https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2916#discussi=
on_r311345002">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>=0D
<pre style=3D'color:#555'>&gt; +Below is one recommended approach for det=
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+ACK frame.=0D
+=0D
+### Receiver Tracking of ACK Frames=0D
+=0D
+When a packet containing an ACK frame is sent, the largest acknowledged =
in that=0D
+frame may be saved.  When a packet containing an ACK frame is acknowledg=
ed, the=0D
+receiver can stop acknowledging packets less than or equal to the larges=
t=0D
+acknowledged in the sent ACK frame.=0D
+=0D
+In cases without ACK frame loss, this algorithm allows for a minimum of =
1 RTT=0D
+of reordering. In cases with ACK frame loss and reordering, this approac=
h does=0D
+not guarantee that every acknowledgement is seen by the sender before it=
 is no=0D
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 and=0D
+all subsequent ACK frames containing them could be lost. In this case, t=
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<pre style=3D"color: #555">-loss recovery algorithm may cause spurious re=
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<hr>=0D
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<p>In <a href=3D"https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2916#discussi=
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<pre style=3D'color:#555'>&gt; @@ -2947,6 +2997,25 @@ to unnecessarily re=
transmit some data.  Standard QUIC algorithms=0D
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ly=0D
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+### Measuring and Reporting Host Delay {#host-delay}=0D
+=0D
+An endpoint measures the delays intentionally introduced between when an=
=0D
+ACK-eliciting packet is received and the corresponding acknowledgment is=
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+The endpoint encodes this delay for the largest acknowledged packet in t=
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+Ack Delay field of an ACK frame (see Section 19.3). This allows the rece=
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<pre style=3D"color: #555">-Ack Delay field of an ACK frame (see Section =
19.3). This allows the receiver=0D
+Ack Delay field of an ACK frame (see {{frame-ack}}). This allows the rec=
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<hr>=0D
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<p>In <a href=3D"https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2916#discussi=
on_r311345240">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>=0D
<pre style=3D'color:#555'>&gt; @@ -2947,6 +2997,25 @@ to unnecessarily re=
transmit some data.  Standard QUIC algorithms=0D
 acknowledged.  Therefore, the receiver SHOULD repeatedly acknowledge new=
ly=0D
 received packets in preference to packets received in the past.=0D
 =0D
+### Measuring and Reporting Host Delay {#host-delay}=0D
+=0D
+An endpoint measures the delays intentionally introduced between when an=
=0D
+ACK-eliciting packet is received and the corresponding acknowledgment is=
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+The endpoint encodes this delay for the largest acknowledged packet in t=
he=0D
+Ack Delay field of an ACK frame (see Section 19.3). This allows the rece=
iver=0D
+of the ACK to adjust for any intentional delays, which is important for=0D=

+delayed acknowledgements, when estimating the path RTT. A packet might b=
e=0D
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<p>I think that you mean "which is important for getting a better estimat=
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=0D
<hr>=0D
=0D
<p>In <a href=3D"https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2916#discussi=
on_r311345350">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>=0D
<pre style=3D'color:#555'>&gt; @@ -2947,6 +2997,25 @@ to unnecessarily re=
transmit some data.  Standard QUIC algorithms=0D
 acknowledged.  Therefore, the receiver SHOULD repeatedly acknowledge new=
ly=0D
 received packets in preference to packets received in the past.=0D
 =0D
+### Measuring and Reporting Host Delay {#host-delay}=0D
+=0D
+An endpoint measures the delays intentionally introduced between when an=
=0D
+ACK-eliciting packet is received and the corresponding acknowledgment is=
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+The endpoint encodes this delay for the largest acknowledged packet in t=
he=0D
+Ack Delay field of an ACK frame (see Section 19.3). This allows the rece=
iver=0D
+of the ACK to adjust for any intentional delays, which is important for=0D=

+delayed acknowledgements, when estimating the path RTT. A packet might b=
e=0D
+held in the OS kernel or elsewhere on the host before being processed.=0D=

+An endpoint SHOULD NOT include these unintentional delays when populatin=
g=0D
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=E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D
<pre style=3D"color: #555">-An endpoint SHOULD NOT include these unintent=
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+An endpoint MUST NOT include delays that is does not control when popula=
ting=0D
</pre>=0D
=0D
<p>I think that we can use MUST NOT here.  Also, I think that outside of =
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<hr>=0D
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<p>In <a href=3D"https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2916#discussi=
on_r311345512">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>=0D
<pre style=3D'color:#555'>&gt; @@ -2947,6 +2997,25 @@ to unnecessarily re=
transmit some data.  Standard QUIC algorithms=0D
 acknowledged.  Therefore, the receiver SHOULD repeatedly acknowledge new=
ly=0D
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+### Measuring and Reporting Host Delay {#host-delay}=0D
+=0D
+An endpoint measures the delays intentionally introduced between when an=
=0D
+ACK-eliciting packet is received and the corresponding acknowledgment is=
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+The endpoint encodes this delay for the largest acknowledged packet in t=
he=0D
+Ack Delay field of an ACK frame (see Section 19.3). This allows the rece=
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+of the ACK to adjust for any intentional delays, which is important for=0D=

+delayed acknowledgements, when estimating the path RTT. A packet might b=
e=0D
+held in the OS kernel or elsewhere on the host before being processed.=0D=

+An endpoint SHOULD NOT include these unintentional delays when populatin=
g=0D
+the Ack Delay field in an ACK frame.=0D
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+An endpoint MUST NOT excessively delay acknowledgements of ack-eliciting=
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=0D
<hr>=0D
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<p>In <a href=3D"https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2916#discussi=
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<pre style=3D'color:#555'>&gt; @@ -2947,6 +2997,25 @@ to unnecessarily re=
transmit some data.  Standard QUIC algorithms=0D
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+### Measuring and Reporting Host Delay {#host-delay}=0D
+=0D
+An endpoint measures the delays intentionally introduced between when an=
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+ACK-eliciting packet is received and the corresponding acknowledgment is=
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+The endpoint encodes this delay for the largest acknowledged packet in t=
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+Ack Delay field of an ACK frame (see Section 19.3). This allows the rece=
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+of the ACK to adjust for any intentional delays, which is important for=0D=

+delayed acknowledgements, when estimating the path RTT. A packet might b=
e=0D
+held in the OS kernel or elsewhere on the host before being processed.=0D=

+An endpoint SHOULD NOT include these unintentional delays when populatin=
g=0D
+the Ack Delay field in an ACK frame.=0D
+=0D
+An endpoint MUST NOT excessively delay acknowledgements of ack-eliciting=
=0D
+packets.  The maximum ack delay is communicated in the max_ack_delay tra=
nsport=0D
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<pre style=3D"color: #555">-parameter; see Section 18.1.  max_ack_delay i=
mplies an explicit contract:=0D
+parameter; see {{transport-parameter-definitions}}.  max_ack_delay impli=
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</pre>=0D
=0D
=0D
<hr>=0D
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<p>In <a href=3D"https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2916#discussi=
on_r311345716">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>=0D
<pre style=3D'color:#555'>&gt; +An endpoint measures the delays intention=
ally introduced between when an=0D
+ACK-eliciting packet is received and the corresponding acknowledgment is=
 sent.=0D
+The endpoint encodes this delay for the largest acknowledged packet in t=
he=0D
+Ack Delay field of an ACK frame (see Section 19.3). This allows the rece=
iver=0D
+of the ACK to adjust for any intentional delays, which is important for=0D=

+delayed acknowledgements, when estimating the path RTT. A packet might b=
e=0D
+held in the OS kernel or elsewhere on the host before being processed.=0D=

+An endpoint SHOULD NOT include these unintentional delays when populatin=
g=0D
+the Ack Delay field in an ACK frame.=0D
+=0D
+An endpoint MUST NOT excessively delay acknowledgements of ack-eliciting=
=0D
+packets.  The maximum ack delay is communicated in the max_ack_delay tra=
nsport=0D
+parameter; see Section 18.1.  max_ack_delay implies an explicit contract=
:=0D
+an endpoint promises to never delay acknowledgments of an ack-eliciting =
packet=0D
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RTT=0D
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</pre>=0D
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Yes?  The proposal is to close with no action on the basis of text already incorporated in #2688.

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<p>Yes?  The proposal is to close with no action on the basis of text already incorporated in <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="442661902" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2688" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2688/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2688">#2688</a>.</p>

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There wasn't a consensus call. Will do one next round.

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<p>There wasn't a consensus call. Will do one next round.</p>

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> This issue will cause the receiver ""ACK the wrong packet number"" and the related stream will hang for ever.

That's not correct. If you decode the packet number incorrectly, decryption of the packet will fail, since the packet number is used as the nonce for the AEAD. Really, the worst thing this will happen  in this case is that the packet is discarded as undecryptable and eventually detected as lost by the sender.

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<p>That's not correct. If you decode the packet number incorrectly, decryption of the packet will fail, since the packet number is used as the nonce for the AEAD. Really, the worst thing this will happen  in this case is that the packet is discarded as undecryptable and eventually detected as lost by the sender.</p>

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That seems unwise in the extreme.  SETTINGS was designed to be non-blocking.

The advice here seems simple enough:

1. send SETTINGS always

  corollary (that I didn't think needed to be stated explicitly, but we can do that): don't condition your SETTINGS on the value from your peer
  optional: maybe recommend always sending all non-default settings and not assuming that a peer has saved values

2. don't use a ticket unless you also have SETTINGS

   inference: if you don't, you get vanilla h3 (and Alan will be sad that he spent all that time on QPACK only to have you not use it, you ingrate)

I think that addresses concerns about resumption as well as 0-RTT.  I agree that this is not great from an implementation perspective, but I'm fairly sure that we can all use `&&` in our code.  Async handling for NewSessionTicket will suck for sure, but that's not the worst complication ever.

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<p>That seems unwise in the extreme.  SETTINGS was designed to be non-blocking.</p>
<p>The advice here seems simple enough:</p>
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<li>send SETTINGS always</li>
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<p>corollary (that I didn't think needed to be stated explicitly, but we can do that): don't condition your SETTINGS on the value from your peer<br>
optional: maybe recommend always sending all non-default settings and not assuming that a peer has saved values</p>
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<p>don't use a ticket unless you also have SETTINGS</p>
<p>inference: if you don't, you get vanilla h3 (and Alan will be sad that he spent all that time on QPACK only to have you not use it, you ingrate)</p>
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<p>I think that addresses concerns about resumption as well as 0-RTT.  I agree that this is not great from an implementation perspective, but I'm fairly sure that we can all use <code>&amp;&amp;</code> in our code.  Async handling for NewSessionTicket will suck for sure, but that's not the worst complication ever.</p>

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> > This issue will cause the receiver ""ACK the wrong packet number"" and the related stream will hang for ever.
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> That's not correct. If you decode the packet number incorrectly, decryption of the packet will fail, since the packet number is used as the nonce for the AEAD. Really, the worst thing this will happen in this case is that the packet is discarded as undecryptable and eventually detected as lost by the sender.

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<p>That's not correct. If you decode the packet number incorrectly, decryption of the packet will fail, since the packet number is used as the nonce for the AEAD. Really, the worst thing this will happen in this case is that the packet is discarded as undecryptable and eventually detected as lost by the sender.</p>
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> -setting ECT codepoints in subsequent packets.  Doing so allows the connection to
-be resilient to network elements that corrupt ECN codepoints in the IP header or
-drop packets with ECT or CE codepoints in the IP header.
+#### Validation Outcomes
+
+If validation fails, then the endpoint stops sending ECN markings in subsequent
+IP packets with the expectation that either the network path or the peer does
+not support ECN.
+
+Upon successful validation, an endpoint can continue to set ECT codepoints in
+subsequent packets with the expectation that the path is ECN-capable.  Network
+routing and path elements can change mid-connection however; an endpoint MUST
+disable ECN if validation fails at any point in the connection.
+
+Even if validation fails, an endpoint MAY re-validate ECN on the same path to
+the peer at any later time in the connection.

Okay, then you should say revalidation but maybe remark actually exactly this, that validation is performed on a per-path basis and has do be performed when a path change is detected.

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<p><b>@mirjak</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2752#discussion_r311415720">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; -setting ECT codepoints in subsequent packets.  Doing so allows the connection to
-be resilient to network elements that corrupt ECN codepoints in the IP header or
-drop packets with ECT or CE codepoints in the IP header.
+#### Validation Outcomes
+
+If validation fails, then the endpoint stops sending ECN markings in subsequent
+IP packets with the expectation that either the network path or the peer does
+not support ECN.
+
+Upon successful validation, an endpoint can continue to set ECT codepoints in
+subsequent packets with the expectation that the path is ECN-capable.  Network
+routing and path elements can change mid-connection however; an endpoint MUST
+disable ECN if validation fails at any point in the connection.
+
+Even if validation fails, an endpoint MAY re-validate ECN on the same path to
+the peer at any later time in the connection.
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<p>Okay, then you should say revalidation but maybe remark actually exactly this, that validation is performed on a per-path basis and has do be performed when a path change is detected.</p>

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@LPardue writes:
> The server might wait until it receives the client SETTINGS in order to make use of the dynamic table in the response. If the client doesn't want to send SETTINGS, the connection might idle time out.

That's not the sort of bug that would go unnoticed for long.  Implementing a server that way would be, to borrow @martinthomson's euphemism, unwise.

QPACK is designed with the understanding that QPACK can be used before the _SETTINGS_ frame is received.  I suggest we remove the QPACK dynamic table aspect from this discussion.

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<p>The server might wait until it receives the client SETTINGS in order to make use of the dynamic table in the response. If the client doesn't want to send SETTINGS, the connection might idle time out.</p>
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<p>That's not the sort of bug that would go unnoticed for long.  Implementing a server that way would be, to borrow <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/hovercards?user_id=67641" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/martinthomson">@martinthomson</a>'s euphemism, unwise.</p>
<p>QPACK is designed with the understanding that QPACK can be used before the <em>SETTINGS</em> frame is received.  I suggest we remove the QPACK dynamic table aspect from this discussion.</p>

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Yes it would be unwise because there's a good enough fall back, use static compression.

Pending priority removal from the spec, the only thing SETTINGS holds is header-related parameters. Removing the QPACK dynamic table aspect from the discussion means that we are discussing only SETTINGS_MAX_HEADER_LIST_SIZE. We discussed the usefulness of that parameter on #2516, with some happy to support its removal; but we decided in London to keep it.

So all we can talk about for SETTINGS is in terms of extensions, known or unknown. Sending SETTINGS isn't blocked on the peer but is that true for how an application acts upon those SETTINGS? E.g. Should a server that implements an extension and advertises it in its SETTINGS block until it receives a SETTINGS from its peer? That depends on the nature of the extension. 

So on this axiom, I'd be happy with text that says an endpoint MUST send SETTINGS before all other activity, along with some guidance in the "Extension to HTTP/3" section that describes the risks in blocking on reception of SETTINGS.

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<p>Yes it would be unwise because there's a good enough fall back, use static compression.</p>
<p>Pending priority removal from the spec, the only thing SETTINGS holds is header-related parameters. Removing the QPACK dynamic table aspect from the discussion means that we are discussing only SETTINGS_MAX_HEADER_LIST_SIZE. We discussed the usefulness of that parameter on <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="419705265" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2516" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2516/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2516">#2516</a>, with some happy to support its removal; but we decided in London to keep it.</p>
<p>So all we can talk about for SETTINGS is in terms of extensions, known or unknown. Sending SETTINGS isn't blocked on the peer but is that true for how an application acts upon those SETTINGS? E.g. Should a server that implements an extension and advertises it in its SETTINGS block until it receives a SETTINGS from its peer? That depends on the nature of the extension.</p>
<p>So on this axiom, I'd be happy with text that says an endpoint MUST send SETTINGS before all other activity, along with some guidance in the "Extension to HTTP/3" section that describes the risks in blocking on reception of SETTINGS.</p>

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tfpauly commented on this pull request.



>  immediately reset the congestion controller and round-trip time estimator for
-the new path to initial values (see Sections A.3 and B.3 in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}).
-
-An endpoint MUST NOT return to the send rate used for the previous path unless
-it is reasonably sure that the previous send rate is valid for the new path.
-For instance, a change in the client's port number is likely indicative of a
-rebinding in a middlebox and not a complete change in path.  This determination
-likely depends on heuristics, which could be imperfect; if the new path capacity
-is significantly reduced, ultimately this relies on the congestion controller
-responding to congestion signals and reducing send rates appropriately.
+the new path to initial values (see Sections A.3 and B.3 in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}})
+unless it has knowledge that a previous send rate or round-trip time estimate
+is valid for the new path.  For instance, an endpoint might infer that a change
+in only the client's port number is likely indicative of a NAT rebinding,
+meaning that the new path is likely to have similar bandwidth and round-trip
+time. This determination is likely to be imperfect.  If

Reading through this at an editorial level, it stands out a bit that the text says `likely` three times in the space of two sentences. I would argue that if an endpoint is inferring something, it's already clear that the state it is inferring is "likely" (but not certain) based on the fact that the state is inferred. I would suggest text like:

```
For instance, an endpoint might infer that a change
	in only the client's port number is indicative of a NAT rebinding,
	meaning that the new path is likely to have similar bandwidth and round-trip
	time. However, this determination will often be imperfect.
```

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<p><b>@tfpauly</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2918#discussion_r311639775">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  immediately reset the congestion controller and round-trip time estimator for
-the new path to initial values (see Sections A.3 and B.3 in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}).
-
-An endpoint MUST NOT return to the send rate used for the previous path unless
-it is reasonably sure that the previous send rate is valid for the new path.
-For instance, a change in the client&#39;s port number is likely indicative of a
-rebinding in a middlebox and not a complete change in path.  This determination
-likely depends on heuristics, which could be imperfect; if the new path capacity
-is significantly reduced, ultimately this relies on the congestion controller
-responding to congestion signals and reducing send rates appropriately.
+the new path to initial values (see Sections A.3 and B.3 in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}})
+unless it has knowledge that a previous send rate or round-trip time estimate
+is valid for the new path.  For instance, an endpoint might infer that a change
+in only the client&#39;s port number is likely indicative of a NAT rebinding,
+meaning that the new path is likely to have similar bandwidth and round-trip
+time. This determination is likely to be imperfect.  If
</pre>
<p>Reading through this at an editorial level, it stands out a bit that the text says <code>likely</code> three times in the space of two sentences. I would argue that if an endpoint is inferring something, it's already clear that the state it is inferring is "likely" (but not certain) based on the fact that the state is inferred. I would suggest text like:</p>
<pre><code>For instance, an endpoint might infer that a change
	in only the client's port number is indicative of a NAT rebinding,
	meaning that the new path is likely to have similar bandwidth and round-trip
	time. However, this determination will often be imperfect.
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Another reason, I think:  By requiring it to change, the ODCID becomes something that the server can include in the TPs to ensure than an on-path attacker didn't inject a Retry before the Initial reached the server.  It proves that the sender of the Retry was, if not the server itself, affiliated with it.  Otherwise, the ODCID is potentially still in the client's Initial for the server to echo back without coordination.

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<p>Another reason, I think:  By requiring it to change, the ODCID becomes something that the server can include in the TPs to ensure than an on-path attacker didn't inject a Retry before the Initial reached the server.  It proves that the sender of the Retry was, if not the server itself, affiliated with it.  Otherwise, the ODCID is potentially still in the client's Initial for the server to echo back without coordination.</p>

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>That was never an interoperability requirement, just a suggestion.  So I think that this should be reverted.
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>If it isn't, using the active voice might be better.

_Originally posted by @martinthomson in https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2780#issuecomment-509055369_

Look at a better way to phrase this guidance, while still retaining the guidance.  (Note this text has also been touched by other PRs in the meantime.)

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<p>That was never an interoperability requirement, just a suggestion.  So I think that this should be reverted.</p>
<p>If it isn't, using the active voice might be better.</p>
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<p><em>Originally posted by <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/hovercards?user_id=67641" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/martinthomson">@martinthomson</a> in <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="454433236" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2780" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2780/hovercard?comment_id=509055369&amp;comment_type=issue_comment" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2780#issuecomment-509055369">#2780 (comment)</a></em></p>
<p>Look at a better way to phrase this guidance, while still retaining the guidance.  (Note this text has also been touched by other PRs in the meantime.)</p>

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MikeBishop approved this pull request.

This is fine for clarifying the current state of affairs.  I think we need to come to a conclusion on #2823, however, whether that will stay the case.

> @@ -800,8 +799,10 @@ modifying the contents of packets from future versions.
 The HKDF-Expand-Label function defined in TLS 1.3 MUST be used for Initial
 packets even where the TLS versions offered do not include TLS 1.3.
 
-{{test-vectors-initial}} contains test vectors for the initial packet
-encryption.
+The secrets used for protecting Initial packets changes when a server sends a

```suggestion
The secrets used for protecting Initial packets change when a server sends a
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> @@ -771,8 +771,7 @@ TLS 1.3 (see {{initial-secrets}}).
 ## Initial Secrets {#initial-secrets}
 
 Initial packets are protected with a secret derived from the Destination
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+Connection ID field from the client's Initial packet. Specifically:

Why this change, when it removes the precision about *which* Initial packet?

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2878#discussion_r311728500">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
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 ## Initial Secrets {#initial-secrets}
 
 Initial packets are protected with a secret derived from the Destination
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MikeBishop requested changes on this pull request.

Need to fix the examples, but otherwise looks good.

> @@ -5536,6 +5545,9 @@ The initial contents of this registry are shown in {{iana-tp-table}}.
 | 0x000e | active_connection_id_limit  | {{transport-parameter-definitions}} |
 {: #iana-tp-table title="Initial QUIC Transport Parameters Entries"}
 
+Additionally, each value of the format `31 * N + 27` for integer values of N
+(that is, `31`, `58`, `85`, ...) MUST NOT be assigned by IANA.

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Your examples are of `31 + N * 27`, I believe....

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  Branch: refs/heads/ianswett-initial-secrets-constant
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: dcae1c4a8bb276730c75a3e1bba79d4ec451dd53
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/dcae1c4a8bb276730c75a3e1bba79d4ec451dd53
  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2019-08-07 (Wed, 07 Aug 2019)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

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dcae1c4a8bb276730c75a3e1bba79d4ec451dd53  Mike's question


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ianswett commented on this pull request.



> @@ -771,8 +771,7 @@ TLS 1.3 (see {{initial-secrets}}).
 ## Initial Secrets {#initial-secrets}
 
 Initial packets are protected with a secret derived from the Destination
-Connection ID field from the client's first Initial packet of the
-connection. Specifically:
+Connection ID field from the client's Initial packet. Specifically:

I can't remember why I changed that, reverted.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2878#discussion_r311737116">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -771,8 +771,7 @@ TLS 1.3 (see {{initial-secrets}}).
 ## Initial Secrets {#initial-secrets}
 
 Initial packets are protected with a secret derived from the Destination
-Connection ID field from the client&#39;s first Initial packet of the
-connection. Specifically:
+Connection ID field from the client&#39;s Initial packet. Specifically:
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<p>I can't remember why I changed that, reverted.</p>

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> @@ -2601,12 +2601,17 @@ connection in a recoverable state, the endpoint can send a RESET_STREAM frame
 ({{frame-reset-stream}}) with an appropriate error code to terminate just the
 affected stream.
 
-RESET_STREAM MUST be instigated by the protocol using QUIC, either directly or
-through the receipt of a STOP_SENDING frame from a peer.  RESET_STREAM carries
-an application error code.  Resetting a stream without knowledge of the
-application protocol could cause the protocol to enter an unrecoverable state.
-Application protocols might require certain streams to be reliably delivered in
-order to guarantee consistent state between endpoints.
+RESET_STREAM MUST be instigated by the protocol using QUIC.  RESET_STREAM
+carries an application error code.  Only the application protocol is able to
+cause a stream to be terminated.  A local instance of the application protocol
+uses a direct API call and a remote instance uses the STOP_SENDING frame, which
+triggers an automatic RESET_STREAM.

The guidance at line 657 says:
> An endpoint SHOULD copy the error code from the STOP_SENDING frame to the
> RESET_STREAM frame it sends, but MAY use any application error code.  The
> endpoint that sends a STOP_SENDING frame MAY ignore the error code carried in
> any RESET_STREAM frame it receives.

HTTP allows in one instance for the server to use a different error code if the transport implementation supports that, but everything's fine if the transport just reflects the code before the local application knows about it.

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<p><b>@MikeBishop</b> approved this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2888#discussion_r311737836">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -2601,12 +2601,17 @@ connection in a recoverable state, the endpoint can send a RESET_STREAM frame
 ({{frame-reset-stream}}) with an appropriate error code to terminate just the
 affected stream.
 
-RESET_STREAM MUST be instigated by the protocol using QUIC, either directly or
-through the receipt of a STOP_SENDING frame from a peer.  RESET_STREAM carries
-an application error code.  Resetting a stream without knowledge of the
-application protocol could cause the protocol to enter an unrecoverable state.
-Application protocols might require certain streams to be reliably delivered in
-order to guarantee consistent state between endpoints.
+RESET_STREAM MUST be instigated by the protocol using QUIC.  RESET_STREAM
+carries an application error code.  Only the application protocol is able to
+cause a stream to be terminated.  A local instance of the application protocol
+uses a direct API call and a remote instance uses the STOP_SENDING frame, which
+triggers an automatic RESET_STREAM.
</pre>
<p>The guidance at line 657 says:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>An endpoint SHOULD copy the error code from the STOP_SENDING frame to the<br>
RESET_STREAM frame it sends, but MAY use any application error code.  The<br>
endpoint that sends a STOP_SENDING frame MAY ignore the error code carried in<br>
any RESET_STREAM frame it receives.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>HTTP allows in one instance for the server to use a different error code if the transport implementation supports that, but everything's fine if the transport just reflects the code before the local application knows about it.</p>

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By not allowing it to change you have a stronger assurance in that the server has to have a key.

Having just implemented Retry (yeah, it is like that...) I don't see any advantage either side of this from an implementation perspective. Either way, the server either holds state or puts the odcid in the token. The client implementation is very slightly easier and more efficient if the key doesn't change.  

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<p>By not allowing it to change you have a stronger assurance in that the server has to have a key.</p>
<p>Having just implemented Retry (yeah, it is like that...) I don't see any advantage either side of this from an implementation perspective. Either way, the server either holds state or puts the odcid in the token. The client implementation is very slightly easier and more efficient if the key doesn't change.</p>

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Are ECN counts in ACK frames per pn_space or unified across pn_spaces? I've observed different behaviors of public servers regarding that.

[13.3.1. ECN Counts] seems to suggest they are per pn_space:
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Each packet number space maintains separate acknowledgement state and separate ECN counts. For example, if one each of an Initial, 0-RTT, Handshake, and 1-RTT QUIC packet are coalesced, the corresponding counts for the Initial and Handshake packet number space will be incremented by one and the counts for the 1-RTT packet number space will be increased by two.
```

However, [19.3.2. ECN Counts] says:
```
The three ECN Counts are:
ECT(0) Count:
A variable-length integer representing the total number of packets received with the ECT(0) codepoint.
ECT(1) Count:
A variable-length integer representing the total number of packets received with the ECT(1) codepoint.
CE Count:
A variable-length integer representing the total number of packets received with the CE codepoint. 
```

Pseudocode in the recovery draft (Appendix B.  Congestion Control Pseudocode) also has a global ecn_ce_counter. 




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<p>Are ECN counts in ACK frames per pn_space or unified across pn_spaces? I've observed different behaviors of public servers regarding that.</p>
<p>[13.3.1. ECN Counts] seems to suggest they are per pn_space:</p>
<pre><code>Each packet number space maintains separate acknowledgement state and separate ECN counts. For example, if one each of an Initial, 0-RTT, Handshake, and 1-RTT QUIC packet are coalesced, the corresponding counts for the Initial and Handshake packet number space will be incremented by one and the counts for the 1-RTT packet number space will be increased by two.
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<p>However, [19.3.2. ECN Counts] says:</p>
<pre><code>The three ECN Counts are:
ECT(0) Count:
A variable-length integer representing the total number of packets received with the ECT(0) codepoint.
ECT(1) Count:
A variable-length integer representing the total number of packets received with the ECT(1) codepoint.
CE Count:
A variable-length integer representing the total number of packets received with the CE codepoint. 
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<p>Pseudocode in the recovery draft (Appendix B.  Congestion Control Pseudocode) also has a global ecn_ce_counter.</p>

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75a2cb2e5f3ed838b4885e7f3d82d98e8a27e2c3  Remove extra line


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@nibanks: The current spec would not cause an ack to be triggered if non-ack-eliciting packets are received out of order. I think that's important. If the packet that was lost was another ack-only packet, this would cause unnecessary acks, and doing this at both ends could cause a minor ack storm.

@marten-seemann: out-of-order is defined in the draft above. I think it's less than ideal, but it's not ambiguous.

@rpaulo: I've rephrased the ECN section just a bit to be clearer. Does that help?

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-- Commit Summary --

  * Move server's SETTINGS to transport parameters

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (22)
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (7)

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<h4>You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:</h4>
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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>Move server&#39;s SETTINGS to transport parameters</li>
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    <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2958/files#diff-0">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>
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    <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2958/files#diff-1">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>
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I've uploaded https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2958 as a potential way to resolve this issue by moving the server's SETTINGS to transport parameters.

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<p>I've uploaded <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="478203140" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2958" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2958/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2958">#2958</a> as a potential way to resolve this issue by moving the server's SETTINGS to transport parameters.</p>

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I really don't like #2958.  It's added complexity and head-of-line blocking to solve an issue that I don't agree is worth solving.

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<p>I really don't like <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="478203140" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2958" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2958/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2958">#2958</a>.  It's added complexity and head-of-line blocking to solve an issue that I don't agree is worth solving.</p>

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I'm not a big fan of the using transport parameters because of asymmetry. I prefer that we simply say that SETTINGS SHOULD be sent asap. There are good enough reasons for implementations to be doing this anyways. 

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<p>I'm not a big fan of the using transport parameters because of asymmetry. I prefer that we simply say that SETTINGS SHOULD be sent asap. There are good enough reasons for implementations to be doing this anyways.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/jri/ecn
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
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      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9e1257ac44cdf76f4ca87bc7e3d5ee7daf1de961
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2019-08-07 (Wed, 07 Aug 2019)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Apply suggestions from code review

Co-Authored-By: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>



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9e1257ac44cdf76f4ca87bc7e3d5ee7daf1de961  Apply suggestions from code review


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  Branch: refs/heads/jri/ecn
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  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2019-08-07 (Wed, 07 Aug 2019)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  use largest acked, not packet number


  Commit: ee89e45f5c47a6c17c848e43f360b88baabb0d8c
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@janaiyengar pushed 2 commits.

86eaad8e15dc026bbe3d87c4fe3da3425b2a7a0b  use largest acked, not packet number
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janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

comments incorporated. @martinthomson: I've changed the reordering heuristic to be about largest acked as we've previously discussed, and I think I have it right. PTAL.

> +
+* If all packets that were sent with the ECT(0) codepoint are eventually deemed
+  lost {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, validation is deemed to have failed.
+
+To reduce the chances of misinterpreting congestive loss as packets dropped by a
+faulty network element, an endpoint could set the ECT(0) codepoint in the first
+ten outgoing packets on a path, or for a period of three RTTs, whichever occurs
+first.  Alternate strategies are possible.  For example, an endpoint could send
+the first ten packets interleaved: five ECT(0)-marked packets interleaved with
+five unmarked packets.  This allows the endpoint to more clearly identify
+congestive loss as such.  Implementations MAY experiment with and use other
+strategies.
+
+#### Receiving ACK Frames
+
+An endpoint that sets ECT(0) or ECT(1) codepoints on packets it transmits MUST

Added some mentions of it above

> -setting ECT codepoints in subsequent packets.  Doing so allows the connection to
-be resilient to network elements that corrupt ECN codepoints in the IP header or
-drop packets with ECT or CE codepoints in the IP header.
+#### Validation Outcomes
+
+If validation fails, then the endpoint stops sending ECN markings in subsequent
+IP packets with the expectation that either the network path or the peer does
+not support ECN.
+
+Upon successful validation, an endpoint can continue to set ECT codepoints in
+subsequent packets with the expectation that the path is ECN-capable.  Network
+routing and path elements can change mid-connection however; an endpoint MUST
+disable ECN if validation fails at any point in the connection.
+
+Even if validation fails, an endpoint MAY re-validate ECN on the same path to
+the peer at any later time in the connection.

That's already said above in the 2nd para of the "ECN validation" section. The point of this sentence here is that validation failure does not mean an endpoint can't try again for this path.

> +To start ECN validation, an endpoint SHOULD do the following when sending
+packets on a new path to a peer:
+
+* Set the ECT(0) codepoint in the IP header of early outgoing packets sent on a
+  new path to the peer {{!RFC8311}}.
+
+* If all packets that were sent with the ECT(0) codepoint are eventually deemed
+  lost {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, validation is deemed to have failed.
+
+To reduce the chances of misinterpreting congestive loss as packets dropped by a
+faulty network element, an endpoint could set the ECT(0) codepoint in the first
+ten outgoing packets on a path, or for a period of three RTTs, whichever occurs
+first.  Alternate strategies are possible.  For example, an endpoint could send
+the first ten packets interleaved: five ECT(0)-marked packets interleaved with
+five unmarked packets.  This allows the endpoint to more clearly identify
+congestive loss as such.  Implementations MAY experiment with and use other

done, done, and done.

>  
 * Any increase in either ECT(0) or ECT(1) counts, plus any increase in the CE
   count, MUST be no smaller than the number of packets sent with the
   corresponding ECT codepoint that are newly acknowledged in this ACK frame.
   This step detects any erroneous network remarking from ECT(0) to ECT(1) (or
   vice versa).
 
+Processing counts out of order can result in validation failure.  An endpoint
+SHOULD NOT perform this validation if the ACK frame is received in a packet with
+packet number lower than a previously received ACK frame.  Validating based on

I think I have it now, PTAL.

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<p><b>@janaiyengar</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<p>comments incorporated. <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/hovercards?user_id=67641" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/martinthomson">@martinthomson</a>: I've changed the reordering heuristic to be about largest acked as we've previously discussed, and I think I have it right. PTAL.</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2752#discussion_r311824721">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +
+* If all packets that were sent with the ECT(0) codepoint are eventually deemed
+  lost {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, validation is deemed to have failed.
+
+To reduce the chances of misinterpreting congestive loss as packets dropped by a
+faulty network element, an endpoint could set the ECT(0) codepoint in the first
+ten outgoing packets on a path, or for a period of three RTTs, whichever occurs
+first.  Alternate strategies are possible.  For example, an endpoint could send
+the first ten packets interleaved: five ECT(0)-marked packets interleaved with
+five unmarked packets.  This allows the endpoint to more clearly identify
+congestive loss as such.  Implementations MAY experiment with and use other
+strategies.
+
+#### Receiving ACK Frames
+
+An endpoint that sets ECT(0) or ECT(1) codepoints on packets it transmits MUST
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<p>Added some mentions of it above</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2752#discussion_r311825009">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; -setting ECT codepoints in subsequent packets.  Doing so allows the connection to
-be resilient to network elements that corrupt ECN codepoints in the IP header or
-drop packets with ECT or CE codepoints in the IP header.
+#### Validation Outcomes
+
+If validation fails, then the endpoint stops sending ECN markings in subsequent
+IP packets with the expectation that either the network path or the peer does
+not support ECN.
+
+Upon successful validation, an endpoint can continue to set ECT codepoints in
+subsequent packets with the expectation that the path is ECN-capable.  Network
+routing and path elements can change mid-connection however; an endpoint MUST
+disable ECN if validation fails at any point in the connection.
+
+Even if validation fails, an endpoint MAY re-validate ECN on the same path to
+the peer at any later time in the connection.
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<p>That's already said above in the 2nd para of the "ECN validation" section. The point of this sentence here is that validation failure does not mean an endpoint can't try again for this path.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2752#discussion_r311825051">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +To start ECN validation, an endpoint SHOULD do the following when sending
+packets on a new path to a peer:
+
+* Set the ECT(0) codepoint in the IP header of early outgoing packets sent on a
+  new path to the peer {{!RFC8311}}.
+
+* If all packets that were sent with the ECT(0) codepoint are eventually deemed
+  lost {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, validation is deemed to have failed.
+
+To reduce the chances of misinterpreting congestive loss as packets dropped by a
+faulty network element, an endpoint could set the ECT(0) codepoint in the first
+ten outgoing packets on a path, or for a period of three RTTs, whichever occurs
+first.  Alternate strategies are possible.  For example, an endpoint could send
+the first ten packets interleaved: five ECT(0)-marked packets interleaved with
+five unmarked packets.  This allows the endpoint to more clearly identify
+congestive loss as such.  Implementations MAY experiment with and use other
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<p>done, done, and done.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2752#discussion_r311826944">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  
 * Any increase in either ECT(0) or ECT(1) counts, plus any increase in the CE
   count, MUST be no smaller than the number of packets sent with the
   corresponding ECT codepoint that are newly acknowledged in this ACK frame.
   This step detects any erroneous network remarking from ECT(0) to ECT(1) (or
   vice versa).
 
+Processing counts out of order can result in validation failure.  An endpoint
+SHOULD NOT perform this validation if the ACK frame is received in a packet with
+packet number lower than a previously received ACK frame.  Validating based on
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martinthomson approved this pull request.

Minor nits only.  Thanks for getting the largest acknowledged thing.

> -reduced throughput or other undesirable side-effects.  To reduce this risk, an
-endpoint uses the following steps to verify the counts it receives in an ACK
-frame.
+To start ECN validation, an endpoint SHOULD do the following when sending
+packets on a new path to a peer:
+
+* Set the ECT(0) codepoint in the IP header of early outgoing packets sent on a
+  new path to the peer {{!RFC8311}}.
+
+* If all packets that were sent with the ECT(0) codepoint are eventually deemed
+  lost {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, validation is deemed to have failed.
+
+To reduce the chances of misinterpreting congestive loss as packets dropped by a
+faulty network element, an endpoint could set the ECT(0) codepoint in the first
+ten outgoing packets on a path, or for a period of three RTTs, whichever occurs
+first.  Implementations MAY experiment with and use other strategies.  An

I would make a new paragraph here that says this:

Implementations MAY experiment with and use other strategies for use of ECN.  Other methods of probing paths for ECN support are possible, as are different marking strategies, including those that use ECT(1).

>  
 * Any increase in either ECT(0) or ECT(1) counts, plus any increase in the CE
   count, MUST be no smaller than the number of packets sent with the
   corresponding ECT codepoint that are newly acknowledged in this ACK frame.
   This step detects any erroneous network remarking from ECT(0) to ECT(1) (or
   vice versa).
 
+Processing ECN counts out of order can result in validation failure.  An
+endpoint SHOULD NOT perform this validation if this ACK frame does not advance
+the largest packet number acknowledged in this connection.

Your framing makes me ask a question: Is this test connection-scoped, or just path-scoped?  I think that either works about as well as any other, but the path-scoped one might be more correct.

But then path-scoped is probably tricky to implement.  So let's not worry about that.

> -setting ECT codepoints in subsequent packets.  Doing so allows the connection to
-be resilient to network elements that corrupt ECN codepoints in the IP header or
-drop packets with ECT or CE codepoints in the IP header.
+#### Validation Outcomes
+
+If validation fails, then the endpoint stops sending ECN markings in subsequent
+IP packets with the expectation that either the network path or the peer does
+not support ECN.
+
+Upon successful validation, an endpoint can continue to set ECT codepoints in
+subsequent packets with the expectation that the path is ECN-capable.  Network
+routing and path elements can change mid-connection however; an endpoint MUST
+disable ECN if validation fails at any point in the connection.
+
+Even if validation fails, an endpoint MAY re-validate ECN on the same path to
+the peer at any later time in the connection.

Drop "to the peer".

I'm not happy about the hyphenated "re-validate", but I'm short on rephrasing suggestions, sorry.

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<p><b>@martinthomson</b> approved this pull request.</p>

<p>Minor nits only.  Thanks for getting the largest acknowledged thing.</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2752#discussion_r311827646">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; -reduced throughput or other undesirable side-effects.  To reduce this risk, an
-endpoint uses the following steps to verify the counts it receives in an ACK
-frame.
+To start ECN validation, an endpoint SHOULD do the following when sending
+packets on a new path to a peer:
+
+* Set the ECT(0) codepoint in the IP header of early outgoing packets sent on a
+  new path to the peer {{!RFC8311}}.
+
+* If all packets that were sent with the ECT(0) codepoint are eventually deemed
+  lost {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, validation is deemed to have failed.
+
+To reduce the chances of misinterpreting congestive loss as packets dropped by a
+faulty network element, an endpoint could set the ECT(0) codepoint in the first
+ten outgoing packets on a path, or for a period of three RTTs, whichever occurs
+first.  Implementations MAY experiment with and use other strategies.  An
</pre>
<p>I would make a new paragraph here that says this:</p>
<p>Implementations MAY experiment with and use other strategies for use of ECN.  Other methods of probing paths for ECN support are possible, as are different marking strategies, including those that use ECT(1).</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2752#discussion_r311827902">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  
 * Any increase in either ECT(0) or ECT(1) counts, plus any increase in the CE
   count, MUST be no smaller than the number of packets sent with the
   corresponding ECT codepoint that are newly acknowledged in this ACK frame.
   This step detects any erroneous network remarking from ECT(0) to ECT(1) (or
   vice versa).
 
+Processing ECN counts out of order can result in validation failure.  An
+endpoint SHOULD NOT perform this validation if this ACK frame does not advance
+the largest packet number acknowledged in this connection.
</pre>
<p>Your framing makes me ask a question: Is this test connection-scoped, or just path-scoped?  I think that either works about as well as any other, but the path-scoped one might be more correct.</p>
<p>But then path-scoped is probably tricky to implement.  So let's not worry about that.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2752#discussion_r311828157">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; -setting ECT codepoints in subsequent packets.  Doing so allows the connection to
-be resilient to network elements that corrupt ECN codepoints in the IP header or
-drop packets with ECT or CE codepoints in the IP header.
+#### Validation Outcomes
+
+If validation fails, then the endpoint stops sending ECN markings in subsequent
+IP packets with the expectation that either the network path or the peer does
+not support ECN.
+
+Upon successful validation, an endpoint can continue to set ECT codepoints in
+subsequent packets with the expectation that the path is ECN-capable.  Network
+routing and path elements can change mid-connection however; an endpoint MUST
+disable ECN if validation fails at any point in the connection.
+
+Even if validation fails, an endpoint MAY re-validate ECN on the same path to
+the peer at any later time in the connection.
</pre>
<p>Drop "to the peer".</p>
<p>I'm not happy about the hyphenated "re-validate", but I'm short on rephrasing suggestions, sorry.</p>

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@erickinnear thanks for the detailed explanation. This looks good to me and I have no objections to consensus. 

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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2019-07-15 (Mon, 15 Jul 2019)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Move wasteful packet stuff to -transport

Issue #2890 observes that this text mentions HTTP/2, which isn't
necessary.  In reviewwing it, I noticed that this talks about messages
that do nothing, but not really about messages that do little (or that
can be reversed to have net zero effect).  So I expanded the text a
little.

Closes #2890.


  Commit: f2992808f37445b69db10f7921b34562682fb5a0
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2019-07-15 (Mon, 15 Jul 2019)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Tweak language more


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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2019-07-17 (Wed, 17 Jul 2019)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Reaction to attack


  Commit: f3a29c434ed4effcf14fa8c0007946af6a40842e
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2019-08-08 (Thu, 08 Aug 2019)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #2896 from quicwg/issue2890

Move wasteful packet stuff to -transport


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/2270f4355316...f3a29c434ed4


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Merged #2896 into master.

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2019-07-10 (Wed, 10 Jul 2019)

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  Firm up language around stream termination

This was a little woolly.  Hopefully this is crisper.  Basically, the
application protocol is what asks for stream reset, either directly, or
by sending STOP_SENDING.

I added a recommendation for application protocols to define handling
for prematurely cancelled streams.  That is, I believe, just editorial,
even though it uses 2119 language, because we already do that.

Closes #2884.


  Commit: 70aa09b4acbf3d25eb1ebfd0116755115308147b
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  Date:   2019-08-08 (Thu, 08 Aug 2019)

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  Merge pull request #2888 from quicwg/firm-stop-sending

Firm up language around stream termination


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Closed #2884 via #2888.

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@martinthomson I'm probably just confused, but how does #2958 add head-of-line blocking?

@janaiyengar Saying that implementations should send the SETTINGS frame ASAP doesn't address the problems the asymmetry is trying to solve. Perhaps QUIC does not wish to solve the problem at all, but it's not the case that "simply" sending SETTINGS ASAP fixes things.

There's also a lot of hidden complexity to the status quo:

* What does the client do when it receives NST before SETTINGS? The spec needs to discuss this or it is incomplete.
* The TLS document needs to mention that the protocol atop QUIC may hook into it interestingly. I suspect this issue would have been noticed sooner were this mentioned! A TLS implementer trying to understand the implications of QUIC is unlikely to read the HTTP document very carefully.
* The server must remember the SETTINGS frame it sent in the ticket, so it can emit the delta SETTINGS encoding ("The server MAY omit settings from its SETTINGS frame which are unchanged from the initial value") and decide if its current SETTINGS frame allows 0-RTT at all ("If 0-RTT data is accepted by the server, its SETTINGS frame MUST NOT reduce any limits or alter any values that might be violated by the client with its 0-RTT data"). This means you *already* have asymmetry. Your TLS library will have a `SetServerSETTINGSFrame()` function, but not a `SetClientSETTINGSFrame()`. It will also need to pick one of (a) conservatively require exact match for 0-RTT, (b) know how to parse HTTP/3 SETTINGS frames, or (c) expose a callback interface.
* Conversely, either the client remembers the server SETTINGS frame entirely out-of-band, or the TLS library does it. If the former (note another asymmetry: out-of-band isn't an option on the server if using stateless tickets), you need to deal with the calling code and TLS library disagreeing on whether a session supports 0-RTT. If the latter, you now need additional API surface for querying the remembered SETTINGS frame, configuring the newly-received one post-handshake, plus the async handling.
* There is an asymmetry between 0-RTT and 1-RTT. The client needs to check that one arbitrary SETTINGS frame indeed doesn't reduce limits from some other arbitrary one. This is otherwise not necessary because 1-RTT connections begin at the initial state, not the previous state.

Some of these (e.g. the last one) aren't fixed by #2958, but they at least reduce to transport parameters, and the worst of it (ordering problems) is gone.

(For completeness, there's a third option, which is to not stick the SETTINGS frame into the ticket at all. This fixes everything, but it means you get your SETTINGS frame slightly later.)

QUIC is already quite invasive when it comes to the QUIC/TLS interface. It complicates the whole ecosystem around QUIC and compromises QUIC's ability to pick up TLS changes. (Did everyone remember their QUIC/TLS record-layer interfaces need to express record-level padding for ESNI? It's not obvious at first glance.) That ability is critical; if TLS over QUIC is ever unable to meet TLS over TCP's baseline as we evolve it with ESNI, post-quantum algorithms, etc., browsers will need to disable QUIC to avoid downgrade attacks.

Let's try to trim away invasive dependencies when it doesn't buy much. Remember, complexity at component boundaries costs much more than complexity within a component.

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<p><a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/hovercards?user_id=67641" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/martinthomson">@martinthomson</a> I'm probably just confused, but how does <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="478203140" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2958" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2958/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2958">#2958</a> add head-of-line blocking?</p>
<p><a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/hovercards?user_id=11067604" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/janaiyengar">@janaiyengar</a> Saying that implementations should send the SETTINGS frame ASAP doesn't address the problems the asymmetry is trying to solve. Perhaps QUIC does not wish to solve the problem at all, but it's not the case that "simply" sending SETTINGS ASAP fixes things.</p>
<p>There's also a lot of hidden complexity to the status quo:</p>
<ul>
<li>What does the client do when it receives NST before SETTINGS? The spec needs to discuss this or it is incomplete.</li>
<li>The TLS document needs to mention that the protocol atop QUIC may hook into it interestingly. I suspect this issue would have been noticed sooner were this mentioned! A TLS implementer trying to understand the implications of QUIC is unlikely to read the HTTP document very carefully.</li>
<li>The server must remember the SETTINGS frame it sent in the ticket, so it can emit the delta SETTINGS encoding ("The server MAY omit settings from its SETTINGS frame which are unchanged from the initial value") and decide if its current SETTINGS frame allows 0-RTT at all ("If 0-RTT data is accepted by the server, its SETTINGS frame MUST NOT reduce any limits or alter any values that might be violated by the client with its 0-RTT data"). This means you <em>already</em> have asymmetry. Your TLS library will have a <code>SetServerSETTINGSFrame()</code> function, but not a <code>SetClientSETTINGSFrame()</code>. It will also need to pick one of (a) conservatively require exact match for 0-RTT, (b) know how to parse HTTP/3 SETTINGS frames, or (c) expose a callback interface.</li>
<li>Conversely, either the client remembers the server SETTINGS frame entirely out-of-band, or the TLS library does it. If the former (note another asymmetry: out-of-band isn't an option on the server if using stateless tickets), you need to deal with the calling code and TLS library disagreeing on whether a session supports 0-RTT. If the latter, you now need additional API surface for querying the remembered SETTINGS frame, configuring the newly-received one post-handshake, plus the async handling.</li>
<li>There is an asymmetry between 0-RTT and 1-RTT. The client needs to check that one arbitrary SETTINGS frame indeed doesn't reduce limits from some other arbitrary one. This is otherwise not necessary because 1-RTT connections begin at the initial state, not the previous state.</li>
</ul>
<p>Some of these (e.g. the last one) aren't fixed by <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="478203140" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2958" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2958/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2958">#2958</a>, but they at least reduce to transport parameters, and the worst of it (ordering problems) is gone.</p>
<p>(For completeness, there's a third option, which is to not stick the SETTINGS frame into the ticket at all. This fixes everything, but it means you get your SETTINGS frame slightly later.)</p>
<p>QUIC is already quite invasive when it comes to the QUIC/TLS interface. It complicates the whole ecosystem around QUIC and compromises QUIC's ability to pick up TLS changes. (Did everyone remember their QUIC/TLS record-layer interfaces need to express record-level padding for ESNI? It's not obvious at first glance.) That ability is critical; if TLS over QUIC is ever unable to meet TLS over TCP's baseline as we evolve it with ESNI, post-quantum algorithms, etc., browsers will need to disable QUIC to avoid downgrade attacks.</p>
<p>Let's try to trim away invasive dependencies when it doesn't buy much. Remember, complexity at component boundaries costs much more than complexity within a component.</p>

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I think that's overstating the complexities.

If you don't do this, you get vanilla h3.  That's the fallback position.  It's almost like you are arguing for that, because most of these relate directly to that point.

If you do bind SETTINGS to tickets, you get to use nice h3 features like QPACK in 0-RTT and after resumption.  The question we're grappling with is not whether to have the feature (I hope; if we are please open an issue so we can have that discussion), but more how to most cleanly implement that coupling.

Putting SETTINGS in the transport parameters doesn't fix the problem, it just moves it around.  The asymmetry it adds doesn't do anything to remove any asymmetries elsewhere.

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<p>I think that's overstating the complexities.</p>
<p>If you don't do this, you get vanilla h3.  That's the fallback position.  It's almost like you are arguing for that, because most of these relate directly to that point.</p>
<p>If you do bind SETTINGS to tickets, you get to use nice h3 features like QPACK in 0-RTT and after resumption.  The question we're grappling with is not whether to have the feature (I hope; if we are please open an issue so we can have that discussion), but more how to most cleanly implement that coupling.</p>
<p>Putting SETTINGS in the transport parameters doesn't fix the problem, it just moves it around.  The asymmetry it adds doesn't do anything to remove any asymmetries elsewhere.</p>

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In quic-transport-22 section 19.6 it says CRYPTO frames can be sent in all packet types.
> The CRYPTO frame (type=0x06) is used to transmit cryptographic handshake messages.  It can be sent in all packet types.

However in quic-tls-22 section 4 it says the CRYPTO frames can't be sent in 0-RTT packets.
> CRYPTO and CONNECTION_CLOSE frames MAY appear in packets of any encryption level except 0-RTT.

Also in quic-tls-22 section 8.3, similar statement.
> A server MUST treat receipt of a CRYPTO frame in a 0-RTT packet as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.

Maybe the statement in quic-transport-22 needs to be corrected?

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<p>In quic-transport-22 section 19.6 it says CRYPTO frames can be sent in all packet types.</p>
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<p>The CRYPTO frame (type=0x06) is used to transmit cryptographic handshake messages.  It can be sent in all packet types.</p>
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<p>However in quic-tls-22 section 4 it says the CRYPTO frames can't be sent in 0-RTT packets.</p>
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<p>CRYPTO and CONNECTION_CLOSE frames MAY appear in packets of any encryption level except 0-RTT.</p>
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<p>Also in quic-tls-22 section 8.3, similar statement.</p>
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<p>A server MUST treat receipt of a CRYPTO frame in a 0-RTT packet as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.</p>
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<p>Maybe the statement in quic-transport-22 needs to be corrected?</p>

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It's not really optional right now. This bit here is a problem: "The server MAY omit settings from its SETTINGS frame which are unchanged from the initial value". That means, if the client doesn't remember the SETTINGS information, due to, say, packet ordering, it won't apply this SETTINGS frame delta correctly. Having both sides disagree on how to interpret a SETTINGS frame is rather poor. Moreover, this mismatch is sticky. If you get out of a sync once, you stay out of sync as you renew tickets.

To that end, I guess there's yet another option: strike that sentence. The server must encode the SETTINGS de novo, and the client can start with either the initial value or the cached value. That ambiguity is odd, but the client already starts with the initial value at 1-RTT, so I think that's less of a nuisance.

Putting SETTINGS in the transport parameters gives it an ordering: it's guaranteed to be processed before NewSessionTicket. (And HTTP requests[*], for that matter, so it's an improvement in the 1-RTT case too.)

[*] More accurately, it's guaranteed to be processed before 1-RTT HTTP requests, but 0-RTT HTTP requests get the remembered one, so you still get to rely on some form of SETTINGS.

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<p>It's not really optional right now. This bit here is a problem: "The server MAY omit settings from its SETTINGS frame which are unchanged from the initial value". That means, if the client doesn't remember the SETTINGS information, due to, say, packet ordering, it won't apply this SETTINGS frame delta correctly. Having both sides disagree on how to interpret a SETTINGS frame is rather poor. Moreover, this mismatch is sticky. If you get out of a sync once, you stay out of sync as you renew tickets.</p>
<p>To that end, I guess there's yet another option: strike that sentence. The server must encode the SETTINGS de novo, and the client can start with either the initial value or the cached value. That ambiguity is odd, but the client already starts with the initial value at 1-RTT, so I think that's less of a nuisance.</p>
<p>Putting SETTINGS in the transport parameters gives it an ordering: it's guaranteed to be processed before NewSessionTicket. (And HTTP requests[*], for that matter, so it's an improvement in the 1-RTT case too.)</p>
<p>[*] More accurately, it's guaranteed to be processed before 1-RTT HTTP requests, but 0-RTT HTTP requests get the remembered one, so you still get to rely on some form of SETTINGS.</p>

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martinthomson approved this pull request.

This is a good change.

> @@ -804,17 +804,14 @@ modifying the contents of packets from future versions.
 The HKDF-Expand-Label function defined in TLS 1.3 MUST be used for Initial
 packets even where the TLS versions offered do not include TLS 1.3.
 
+The secrets used for protecting Initial packets do not change during the
+connection, even after receiving a Retry.  A server that sends a Retry

```suggestion
connection, even though the destination connection ID in client Initial packets
changes after receiving a Retry.  A server that sends a Retry
```

> @@ -804,17 +804,14 @@ modifying the contents of packets from future versions.
 The HKDF-Expand-Label function defined in TLS 1.3 MUST be used for Initial
 packets even where the TLS versions offered do not include TLS 1.3.
 
+The secrets used for protecting Initial packets do not change during the
+connection, even after receiving a Retry.  A server that sends a Retry
+therefore needs to either remember the original connection ID and Initial
+protection keys or save the original connection ID in the Retry token.

```suggestion
or save the original connection ID in the Retry token.
```

> @@ -804,17 +804,14 @@ modifying the contents of packets from future versions.
 The HKDF-Expand-Label function defined in TLS 1.3 MUST be used for Initial
 packets even where the TLS versions offered do not include TLS 1.3.
 
+The secrets used for protecting Initial packets do not change during the
+connection, even after receiving a Retry.  A server that sends a Retry
+therefore needs to either remember the original connection ID and Initial

No strict need to keep Initial (packet) protection keys.

```suggestion
therefore needs to either remember the original connection ID
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martinthomson commented on this pull request.

I'll wait until this is revised before doing the hard stuff.  Some easy comments though to keep things motivated.

> @@ -5753,13 +5753,184 @@ DecodePacketNumber(largest_pn, truncated_pn, pn_nbits):
    return candidate_pn
 ~~~
 
+# Overview of Security Properties {#security-properties}

This is probably better placed as a "Security Considerations" section, with the current text incorporated into this as appropriate (mostly under mitigations).

> +separately.
+
+## Handshake {#handshake-properties}
+
+TBD.
+
+## Short Headers {#short-headers-properties}
+
+TBD.
+
+## Connection Migration {#migration-properties}
+
+Connection Migration ({{migration}}) provides endpoints with the ability to
+transition between IP addresses and ports on multiple paths, using one path at a
+time for sending non-probing frames.  Path validation helps to establish
+bidirectional connectivity with the peer over a new path and prevents source

The purpose of path validation is to establish that a peer is both willing and able to receive packets sent on the path.  This helps reduce the effects of address spoofing, by limiting the number of packets sent to a spoofed address, unless an attacker is able to also receive packets sent to that address.

> +## Handshake {#handshake-properties}
+
+TBD.
+
+## Short Headers {#short-headers-properties}
+
+TBD.
+
+## Connection Migration {#migration-properties}
+
+Connection Migration ({{migration}}) provides endpoints with the ability to
+transition between IP addresses and ports on multiple paths, using one path at a
+time for sending non-probing frames.  Path validation helps to establish
+bidirectional connectivity with the peer over a new path and prevents source
+address spoofing from being used in a denial-of-service attack.  Migration is
+further restricted to be initiated only by QUIC clients.

I think that this is not a security property as much as it is a correctness or simplicity choice we made.  You can drop this sentence.

> +
+An on-path attacker is present between the QUIC client and server, and an
+endpoint is required to send packets through this attacker to establish
+connectivity on a given path.
+
+An on-path attacker can:
+
+- Inspect packets
+- Modify unencrypted packet headers
+- Inject new packets
+- Delay packets
+- Drop packets
+
+An on-path attacker cannot:
+
+- Modify encrypted packet payloads

Mike's point is excellent.  The point is that packets are authenticated.

> +attacks, requiring injection of packets into the network, as described in
+{{?RFC3552}}.
+
+### On-Path Attacker
+
+An on-path attacker is present between the QUIC client and server, and an
+endpoint is required to send packets through this attacker to establish
+connectivity on a given path.
+
+An on-path attacker can:
+
+- Inspect packets
+- Modify unencrypted packet headers
+- Inject new packets
+- Delay packets
+- Drop packets

Another point on capabilities - an on-path attacker can split datagrams that contain multiple packets and merge packets into a single datagram.

> +
+This section describes the intended security properties of connection migration
+when under attack by the following attackers.  These attackers all mount active
+attacks, requiring injection of packets into the network, as described in
+{{?RFC3552}}.
+
+### On-Path Attacker
+
+An on-path attacker is present between the QUIC client and server, and an
+endpoint is required to send packets through this attacker to establish
+connectivity on a given path.
+
+An on-path attacker can:
+
+- Inspect packets
+- Modify unencrypted packet headers

```suggestion
- Modify IP and UDP packet headers
```

> +An on-path attacker can:
+
+- Inspect packets
+- Modify unencrypted packet headers
+- Inject new packets
+- Delay packets
+- Drop packets
+
+An on-path attacker cannot:
+
+- Modify encrypted packet payloads
+
+In the presence of an on-path attacker, QUIC aims to provide the following
+properties.
+
+1. An on-path attacker can interrupt a QUIC connection, causing it to fail if it

The attacker doesn't interrupt the connection as much as it can prevent use of the path for that connection.

There is a special case for connection establishment that needs to be called out separately, in that an attacker can prevent connection establishment with much less interaction (i.e., it doesn't need to disrupt every packet).

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<p><b>@martinthomson</b> commented on this pull request.</p>=0D
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+An on-path attacker can:=0D
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> I prefer that we simply say that SETTINGS SHOULD be sent asap.

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It seems that the argument against #2958 is asymmetry.

Then, I might have a suggestion. How about defining a QUIC frame for exchanging application-protocol settings, that is transmitted using Handshake packets? That would make the protocol design symmetric, at the same time guaranteeing delivery of the settings prior to application data.

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<p>It seems that the argument against <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="478203140" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2958" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2958/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2958">#2958</a> is asymmetry.</p>
<p>Then, I might have a suggestion. How about defining a QUIC frame for exchanging application-protocol settings, that is transmitted using Handshake packets? That would make the protocol design symmetric, at the same time guaranteeing delivery of the settings prior to application data.</p>

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-- Commit Summary --

  * CRYPTO frames can not be sent in 0-RTT

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (10)

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>CRYPTO frames can not be sent in 0-RTT</li>
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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: 7d5fa04e675a0199234d3d41fee2358707d81306
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7d5fa04e675a0199234d3d41fee2358707d81306
  Author: tandf <tandf@live.cn>
  Date:   2019-08-08 (Thu, 08 Aug 2019)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  CRYPTO frames can not be sent in 0-RTT


  Commit: 11494e18c876a4ff5883681963113aa03263819d
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/11494e18c876a4ff5883681963113aa03263819d
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2019-08-08 (Thu, 08 Aug 2019)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #2960 from tandf/patch-1

CRYPTO frames can not be sent in 0-RTT


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/70aa09b4acbf...11494e18c876


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> -reduced throughput or other undesirable side-effects.  To reduce this risk, an
-endpoint uses the following steps to verify the counts it receives in an ACK
-frame.
+To start ECN validation, an endpoint SHOULD do the following when sending
+packets on a new path to a peer:
+
+* Set the ECT(0) codepoint in the IP header of early outgoing packets sent on a
+  new path to the peer {{!RFC8311}}.
+
+* If all packets that were sent with the ECT(0) codepoint are eventually deemed
+  lost {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, validation is deemed to have failed.
+
+To reduce the chances of misinterpreting congestive loss as packets dropped by a
+faulty network element, an endpoint could set the ECT(0) codepoint in the first
+ten outgoing packets on a path, or for a period of three RTTs, whichever occurs
+first.  Implementations MAY experiment with and use other strategies.  An

I don't think normative language is needed here.

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<p><b>@mirjak</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2752#discussion_r311946123">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; -reduced throughput or other undesirable side-effects.  To reduce this risk, an
-endpoint uses the following steps to verify the counts it receives in an ACK
-frame.
+To start ECN validation, an endpoint SHOULD do the following when sending
+packets on a new path to a peer:
+
+* Set the ECT(0) codepoint in the IP header of early outgoing packets sent on a
+  new path to the peer {{!RFC8311}}.
+
+* If all packets that were sent with the ECT(0) codepoint are eventually deemed
+  lost {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, validation is deemed to have failed.
+
+To reduce the chances of misinterpreting congestive loss as packets dropped by a
+faulty network element, an endpoint could set the ECT(0) codepoint in the first
+ten outgoing packets on a path, or for a period of three RTTs, whichever occurs
+first.  Implementations MAY experiment with and use other strategies.  An
</pre>
<p>I don't think normative language is needed here.</p>

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mirjak commented on this pull request.=0D
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> +To start ECN validation, an endpoint SHOULD do the following when send=
ing=0D
+packets on a new path to a peer:=0D
+=0D
+* Set the ECT(0) codepoint in the IP header of early outgoing packets se=
nt on a=0D
+  new path to the peer {{!RFC8311}}.=0D
+=0D
+* If all packets that were sent with the ECT(0) codepoint are eventually=
 deemed=0D
+  lost {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, validation is deemed to have failed.=0D
+=0D
+To reduce the chances of misinterpreting congestive loss as packets drop=
ped by a=0D
+faulty network element, an endpoint could set the ECT(0) codepoint in th=
e first=0D
+ten outgoing packets on a path, or for a period of three RTTs, whichever=
 occurs=0D
+first.  Implementations MAY experiment with and use other strategies.  A=
n=0D
+endpoint could send the first ten packets interleaved: five packets mark=
ed with=0D
+ECT(0) or ECT(1) interleaved with five unmarked packets.  An endpoint co=
uld also=0D
+simply send all packets marked with ECT(0) or ECT(1) until validation fa=
ils.=0D
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Maybe say: "When the expected risk of ECN-based blackholing is low, an en=
dpoint can also=0D
	simply send all packets marked with ECT(0) until validation fails."=0D
I would also like to point people to some measurement data, e.g.: "Recent=
 studies have detected potential ECN-related connectivity problems in les=
s than 0.3% [ECNmeasure]"=0D
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[ECNmeasure] Brian Trammell, Mirja K=C3=BChlewind, Piet De Vaere, Iain R.=
 Learmonth, and Gorry Fairhurst. 2017. Tracking transport-layer evolution=
 with PATHspider. In Proceedings of the Applied Networking Research Works=
hop (ANRW '17). ACM, New York, NY, USA, 20-26. DOI: https://doi.org/10.11=
45/3106328.3106336=0D
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> +=0D
+* If all packets that were sent with the ECT(0) codepoint are eventually=
 deemed=0D
+  lost {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, validation is deemed to have failed.=0D
+=0D
+To reduce the chances of misinterpreting congestive loss as packets drop=
ped by a=0D
+faulty network element, an endpoint could set the ECT(0) codepoint in th=
e first=0D
+ten outgoing packets on a path, or for a period of three RTTs, whichever=
 occurs=0D
+first.  Alternate strategies are possible.  For example, an endpoint cou=
ld send=0D
+the first ten packets interleaved: five ECT(0)-marked packets interleave=
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+five unmarked packets.  This allows the endpoint to more clearly identif=
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+congestive loss as such.  Implementations MAY experiment with and use ot=
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+=0D
+#### Receiving ACK Frames=0D
+=0D
+An endpoint that sets ECT(0) or ECT(1) codepoints on packets it transmit=
s MUST=0D
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RFC8311 does not define use of ECT(1) as interchangeable with ECT(1) anym=
ore and therefore advises endpoints to only use ETC(0) which classic ECN.=
 I think it's right to only talk about ECT(0) here, or if you want to men=
tion that ECT(1) should also use for experimentation with new ECN based s=
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<p><b>@mirjak</b> commented on this pull request.</p>=0D
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<p>In <a href=3D"https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2752#discussi=
on_r311951143">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>=0D
<pre style=3D'color:#555'>&gt; +To start ECN validation, an endpoint SHOU=
LD do the following when sending=0D
+packets on a new path to a peer:=0D
+=0D
+* Set the ECT(0) codepoint in the IP header of early outgoing packets se=
nt on a=0D
+  new path to the peer {{!RFC8311}}.=0D
+=0D
+* If all packets that were sent with the ECT(0) codepoint are eventually=
 deemed=0D
+  lost {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, validation is deemed to have failed.=0D
+=0D
+To reduce the chances of misinterpreting congestive loss as packets drop=
ped by a=0D
+faulty network element, an endpoint could set the ECT(0) codepoint in th=
e first=0D
+ten outgoing packets on a path, or for a period of three RTTs, whichever=
 occurs=0D
+first.  Implementations MAY experiment with and use other strategies.  A=
n=0D
+endpoint could send the first ten packets interleaved: five packets mark=
ed with=0D
+ECT(0) or ECT(1) interleaved with five unmarked packets.  An endpoint co=
uld also=0D
+simply send all packets marked with ECT(0) or ECT(1) until validation fa=
ils.=0D
</pre>=0D
<p>Maybe say: "When the expected risk of ECN-based blackholing is low, an=
 endpoint can also<br>=0D
simply send all packets marked with ECT(0) until validation fails."<br>=0D=

I would also like to point people to some measurement data, e.g.: "Recent=
 studies have detected potential ECN-related connectivity problems in les=
s than 0.3% [ECNmeasure]"</p>=0D
<p>[ECNmeasure] Brian Trammell, Mirja K=C3=BChlewind, Piet De Vaere, Iain=
 R. Learmonth, and Gorry Fairhurst. 2017. Tracking transport-layer evolut=
ion with PATHspider. In Proceedings of the Applied Networking Research Wo=
rkshop (ANRW '17). ACM, New York, NY, USA, 20-26. DOI: <a href=3D"https:/=
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<pre style=3D'color:#555'>&gt; +=0D
+* If all packets that were sent with the ECT(0) codepoint are eventually=
 deemed=0D
+  lost {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, validation is deemed to have failed.=0D
+=0D
+To reduce the chances of misinterpreting congestive loss as packets drop=
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+faulty network element, an endpoint could set the ECT(0) codepoint in th=
e first=0D
+ten outgoing packets on a path, or for a period of three RTTs, whichever=
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+first.  Alternate strategies are possible.  For example, an endpoint cou=
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+#### Receiving ACK Frames=0D
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<p>RFC8311 does not define use of ECT(1) as interchangeable with ECT(1) a=
nymore and therefore advises endpoints to only use ETC(0) which classic E=
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> -reduced throughput or other undesirable side-effects.  To reduce this risk, an
-endpoint uses the following steps to verify the counts it receives in an ACK
-frame.
+To start ECN validation, an endpoint SHOULD do the following when sending
+packets on a new path to a peer:
+
+* Set the ECT(0) codepoint in the IP header of early outgoing packets sent on a
+  new path to the peer {{!RFC8311}}.
+
+* If all packets that were sent with the ECT(0) codepoint are eventually deemed
+  lost {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, validation is deemed to have failed.
+
+To reduce the chances of misinterpreting congestive loss as packets dropped by a
+faulty network element, an endpoint could set the ECT(0) codepoint in the first
+ten outgoing packets on a path, or for a period of three RTTs, whichever occurs
+first.  Implementations MAY experiment with and use other strategies.  An

A problem here is that the text mandates use of ECT(0), which might preclude use of something like L4S on a strict reading.  Also, we need a reason to mention ECT(1) later.

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<p><b>@martinthomson</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2752#discussion_r312053034">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; -reduced throughput or other undesirable side-effects.  To reduce this risk, an
-endpoint uses the following steps to verify the counts it receives in an ACK
-frame.
+To start ECN validation, an endpoint SHOULD do the following when sending
+packets on a new path to a peer:
+
+* Set the ECT(0) codepoint in the IP header of early outgoing packets sent on a
+  new path to the peer {{!RFC8311}}.
+
+* If all packets that were sent with the ECT(0) codepoint are eventually deemed
+  lost {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, validation is deemed to have failed.
+
+To reduce the chances of misinterpreting congestive loss as packets dropped by a
+faulty network element, an endpoint could set the ECT(0) codepoint in the first
+ten outgoing packets on a path, or for a period of three RTTs, whichever occurs
+first.  Implementations MAY experiment with and use other strategies.  An
</pre>
<p>A problem here is that the text mandates use of ECT(0), which might preclude use of something like L4S on a strict reading.  Also, we need a reason to mention ECT(1) later.</p>

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> -reduced throughput or other undesirable side-effects.  To reduce this risk, an
-endpoint uses the following steps to verify the counts it receives in an ACK
-frame.
+To start ECN validation, an endpoint SHOULD do the following when sending
+packets on a new path to a peer:
+
+* Set the ECT(0) codepoint in the IP header of early outgoing packets sent on a
+  new path to the peer {{!RFC8311}}.
+
+* If all packets that were sent with the ECT(0) codepoint are eventually deemed
+  lost {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, validation is deemed to have failed.
+
+To reduce the chances of misinterpreting congestive loss as packets dropped by a
+faulty network element, an endpoint could set the ECT(0) codepoint in the first
+ten outgoing packets on a path, or for a period of three RTTs, whichever occurs
+first.  Implementations MAY experiment with and use other strategies.  An

RFC8311 says: "Protocols and senders MUST NOT use the ECT(1)
      codepoint to indicate ECT unless otherwise specified by an
      Experimental RFC in the IETF document stream."
So I don't think we should talk about use of ECT(1) without a pointer to RFC8311.

However, for this sentence I still don't see why normative language is needed.

And If think if we want to say something about ECT(1) we should rather say something like: "ECT(1) is reserved for experiments by RFC8311. If such an experiment is implemented, the described validation methods might apply as well to ETC(1)." However, that actually doesn't say much...

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<p><b>@mirjak</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2752#discussion_r312115463">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; -reduced throughput or other undesirable side-effects.  To reduce this risk, an
-endpoint uses the following steps to verify the counts it receives in an ACK
-frame.
+To start ECN validation, an endpoint SHOULD do the following when sending
+packets on a new path to a peer:
+
+* Set the ECT(0) codepoint in the IP header of early outgoing packets sent on a
+  new path to the peer {{!RFC8311}}.
+
+* If all packets that were sent with the ECT(0) codepoint are eventually deemed
+  lost {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, validation is deemed to have failed.
+
+To reduce the chances of misinterpreting congestive loss as packets dropped by a
+faulty network element, an endpoint could set the ECT(0) codepoint in the first
+ten outgoing packets on a path, or for a period of three RTTs, whichever occurs
+first.  Implementations MAY experiment with and use other strategies.  An
</pre>
<p>RFC8311 says: "Protocols and senders MUST NOT use the ECT(1)<br>
codepoint to indicate ECT unless otherwise specified by an<br>
Experimental RFC in the IETF document stream."<br>
So I don't think we should talk about use of ECT(1) without a pointer to RFC8311.</p>
<p>However, for this sentence I still don't see why normative language is needed.</p>
<p>And If think if we want to say something about ECT(1) we should rather say something like: "ECT(1) is reserved for experiments by RFC8311. If such an experiment is implemented, the described validation methods might apply as well to ETC(1)." However, that actually doesn't say much...</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/jri/ecn
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  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2019-08-08 (Thu, 08 Aug 2019)

  Changed paths:
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> -reduced throughput or other undesirable side-effects.  To reduce this risk, an
-endpoint uses the following steps to verify the counts it receives in an ACK
-frame.
+To start ECN validation, an endpoint SHOULD do the following when sending
+packets on a new path to a peer:
+
+* Set the ECT(0) codepoint in the IP header of early outgoing packets sent on a
+  new path to the peer {{!RFC8311}}.
+
+* If all packets that were sent with the ECT(0) codepoint are eventually deemed
+  lost {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, validation is deemed to have failed.
+
+To reduce the chances of misinterpreting congestive loss as packets dropped by a
+faulty network element, an endpoint could set the ECT(0) codepoint in the first
+ten outgoing packets on a path, or for a period of three RTTs, whichever occurs
+first.  Implementations MAY experiment with and use other strategies.  An

Thanks for the text, @martinthomson. I've tried to wrestle the text to resolve these concerns, take a look. @mirjak, the normative exists here because there's a SHOULD above on a specific sending pattern (see line 3133).

> +To start ECN validation, an endpoint SHOULD do the following when sending
+packets on a new path to a peer:
+
+* Set the ECT(0) codepoint in the IP header of early outgoing packets sent on a
+  new path to the peer {{!RFC8311}}.
+
+* If all packets that were sent with the ECT(0) codepoint are eventually deemed
+  lost {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, validation is deemed to have failed.
+
+To reduce the chances of misinterpreting congestive loss as packets dropped by a
+faulty network element, an endpoint could set the ECT(0) codepoint in the first
+ten outgoing packets on a path, or for a period of three RTTs, whichever occurs
+first.  Implementations MAY experiment with and use other strategies.  An
+endpoint could send the first ten packets interleaved: five packets marked with
+ECT(0) or ECT(1) interleaved with five unmarked packets.  An endpoint could also
+simply send all packets marked with ECT(0) or ECT(1) until validation fails.

I'm not sure that we need to say anything here about the prevalence of ECN blackholing. No matter what the prevalence, this spec will have to specify methods that work when ECN blackholing is a problem. It seems to me that this text probably belongs in the applicability draft.

> -reduced throughput or other undesirable side-effects.  To reduce this risk, an
-endpoint uses the following steps to verify the counts it receives in an ACK
-frame.
+To start ECN validation, an endpoint SHOULD do the following when sending
+packets on a new path to a peer:
+
+* Set the ECT(0) codepoint in the IP header of early outgoing packets sent on a
+  new path to the peer {{!RFC8311}}.
+
+* If all packets that were sent with the ECT(0) codepoint are eventually deemed
+  lost {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, validation is deemed to have failed.
+
+To reduce the chances of misinterpreting congestive loss as packets dropped by a
+faulty network element, an endpoint could set the ECT(0) codepoint in the first
+ten outgoing packets on a path, or for a period of three RTTs, whichever occurs
+first.  Implementations MAY experiment with and use other strategies.  An

I think we only need to specify one method that can be used as a default, and suggest that implementations can use others too. I'm going with the suggestion of removing other methods entirely from this text because I don't think we need to discuss considerations of using other methods. If I'm in the minority, then I would suggest that we still keep it out of this PR, and add more methods in a separate PR.

> +
+* If all packets that were sent with the ECT(0) codepoint are eventually deemed
+  lost {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, validation is deemed to have failed.
+
+To reduce the chances of misinterpreting congestive loss as packets dropped by a
+faulty network element, an endpoint could set the ECT(0) codepoint in the first
+ten outgoing packets on a path, or for a period of three RTTs, whichever occurs
+first.  Alternate strategies are possible.  For example, an endpoint could send
+the first ten packets interleaved: five ECT(0)-marked packets interleaved with
+five unmarked packets.  This allows the endpoint to more clearly identify
+congestive loss as such.  Implementations MAY experiment with and use other
+strategies.
+
+#### Receiving ACK Frames
+
+An endpoint that sets ECT(0) or ECT(1) codepoints on packets it transmits MUST

I've cited 8311 for the text on sending ECT(1). This text is about what to do when receiving ECT(0) or ECT(1), and so I'm not citing 8311 here.

Unless you're suggesting that we scrub out all mentions of ECT(1) in the text here. I'm not sure that's necessary though, since the rules of validation do not change even when a future spec allows the use of ECT(1).

>  
 * Any increase in either ECT(0) or ECT(1) counts, plus any increase in the CE
   count, MUST be no smaller than the number of packets sent with the
   corresponding ECT codepoint that are newly acknowledged in this ACK frame.
   This step detects any erroneous network remarking from ECT(0) to ECT(1) (or
   vice versa).
 
+Processing ECN counts out of order can result in validation failure.  An
+endpoint SHOULD NOT perform this validation if this ACK frame does not advance
+the largest packet number acknowledged in this connection.

Good point. I tried to think of ways in which the path-level largest acked goes down while the connection-level largest acked goes up, but failed. I think connection-level might be a slightly stronger constraint than we want, but I _think_ it's actually correct. 

> -setting ECT codepoints in subsequent packets.  Doing so allows the connection to
-be resilient to network elements that corrupt ECN codepoints in the IP header or
-drop packets with ECT or CE codepoints in the IP header.
+#### Validation Outcomes
+
+If validation fails, then the endpoint stops sending ECN markings in subsequent
+IP packets with the expectation that either the network path or the peer does
+not support ECN.
+
+Upon successful validation, an endpoint can continue to set ECT codepoints in
+subsequent packets with the expectation that the path is ECN-capable.  Network
+routing and path elements can change mid-connection however; an endpoint MUST
+disable ECN if validation fails at any point in the connection.
+
+Even if validation fails, an endpoint MAY re-validate ECN on the same path to
+the peer at any later time in the connection.

Turns out I don't need the hyphenation.

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<p><b>@janaiyengar</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2752#discussion_r312216338">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; -reduced throughput or other undesirable side-effects.  To reduce this risk, an
-endpoint uses the following steps to verify the counts it receives in an ACK
-frame.
+To start ECN validation, an endpoint SHOULD do the following when sending
+packets on a new path to a peer:
+
+* Set the ECT(0) codepoint in the IP header of early outgoing packets sent on a
+  new path to the peer {{!RFC8311}}.
+
+* If all packets that were sent with the ECT(0) codepoint are eventually deemed
+  lost {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, validation is deemed to have failed.
+
+To reduce the chances of misinterpreting congestive loss as packets dropped by a
+faulty network element, an endpoint could set the ECT(0) codepoint in the first
+ten outgoing packets on a path, or for a period of three RTTs, whichever occurs
+first.  Implementations MAY experiment with and use other strategies.  An
</pre>
<p>Thanks for the text, <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/hovercards?user_id=67641" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/martinthomson">@martinthomson</a>. I've tried to wrestle the text to resolve these concerns, take a look. <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/hovercards?user_id=8420764" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/mirjak">@mirjak</a>, the normative exists here because there's a SHOULD above on a specific sending pattern (see line 3133).</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2752#discussion_r312218958">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +To start ECN validation, an endpoint SHOULD do the following when sending
+packets on a new path to a peer:
+
+* Set the ECT(0) codepoint in the IP header of early outgoing packets sent on a
+  new path to the peer {{!RFC8311}}.
+
+* If all packets that were sent with the ECT(0) codepoint are eventually deemed
+  lost {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, validation is deemed to have failed.
+
+To reduce the chances of misinterpreting congestive loss as packets dropped by a
+faulty network element, an endpoint could set the ECT(0) codepoint in the first
+ten outgoing packets on a path, or for a period of three RTTs, whichever occurs
+first.  Implementations MAY experiment with and use other strategies.  An
+endpoint could send the first ten packets interleaved: five packets marked with
+ECT(0) or ECT(1) interleaved with five unmarked packets.  An endpoint could also
+simply send all packets marked with ECT(0) or ECT(1) until validation fails.
</pre>
<p>I'm not sure that we need to say anything here about the prevalence of ECN blackholing. No matter what the prevalence, this spec will have to specify methods that work when ECN blackholing is a problem. It seems to me that this text probably belongs in the applicability draft.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2752#discussion_r312220236">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; -reduced throughput or other undesirable side-effects.  To reduce this risk, an
-endpoint uses the following steps to verify the counts it receives in an ACK
-frame.
+To start ECN validation, an endpoint SHOULD do the following when sending
+packets on a new path to a peer:
+
+* Set the ECT(0) codepoint in the IP header of early outgoing packets sent on a
+  new path to the peer {{!RFC8311}}.
+
+* If all packets that were sent with the ECT(0) codepoint are eventually deemed
+  lost {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, validation is deemed to have failed.
+
+To reduce the chances of misinterpreting congestive loss as packets dropped by a
+faulty network element, an endpoint could set the ECT(0) codepoint in the first
+ten outgoing packets on a path, or for a period of three RTTs, whichever occurs
+first.  Implementations MAY experiment with and use other strategies.  An
</pre>
<p>I think we only need to specify one method that can be used as a default, and suggest that implementations can use others too. I'm going with the suggestion of removing other methods entirely from this text because I don't think we need to discuss considerations of using other methods. If I'm in the minority, then I would suggest that we still keep it out of this PR, and add more methods in a separate PR.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2752#discussion_r312221398">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +
+* If all packets that were sent with the ECT(0) codepoint are eventually deemed
+  lost {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, validation is deemed to have failed.
+
+To reduce the chances of misinterpreting congestive loss as packets dropped by a
+faulty network element, an endpoint could set the ECT(0) codepoint in the first
+ten outgoing packets on a path, or for a period of three RTTs, whichever occurs
+first.  Alternate strategies are possible.  For example, an endpoint could send
+the first ten packets interleaved: five ECT(0)-marked packets interleaved with
+five unmarked packets.  This allows the endpoint to more clearly identify
+congestive loss as such.  Implementations MAY experiment with and use other
+strategies.
+
+#### Receiving ACK Frames
+
+An endpoint that sets ECT(0) or ECT(1) codepoints on packets it transmits MUST
</pre>
<p>I've cited 8311 for the text on sending ECT(1). This text is about what to do when receiving ECT(0) or ECT(1), and so I'm not citing 8311 here.</p>
<p>Unless you're suggesting that we scrub out all mentions of ECT(1) in the text here. I'm not sure that's necessary though, since the rules of validation do not change even when a future spec allows the use of ECT(1).</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2752#discussion_r312223371">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  
 * Any increase in either ECT(0) or ECT(1) counts, plus any increase in the CE
   count, MUST be no smaller than the number of packets sent with the
   corresponding ECT codepoint that are newly acknowledged in this ACK frame.
   This step detects any erroneous network remarking from ECT(0) to ECT(1) (or
   vice versa).
 
+Processing ECN counts out of order can result in validation failure.  An
+endpoint SHOULD NOT perform this validation if this ACK frame does not advance
+the largest packet number acknowledged in this connection.
</pre>
<p>Good point. I tried to think of ways in which the path-level largest acked goes down while the connection-level largest acked goes up, but failed. I think connection-level might be a slightly stronger constraint than we want, but I <em>think</em> it's actually correct.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2752#discussion_r312224823">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; -setting ECT codepoints in subsequent packets.  Doing so allows the connection to
-be resilient to network elements that corrupt ECN codepoints in the IP header or
-drop packets with ECT or CE codepoints in the IP header.
+#### Validation Outcomes
+
+If validation fails, then the endpoint stops sending ECN markings in subsequent
+IP packets with the expectation that either the network path or the peer does
+not support ECN.
+
+Upon successful validation, an endpoint can continue to set ECT codepoints in
+subsequent packets with the expectation that the path is ECN-capable.  Network
+routing and path elements can change mid-connection however; an endpoint MUST
+disable ECN if validation fails at any point in the connection.
+
+Even if validation fails, an endpoint MAY re-validate ECN on the same path to
+the peer at any later time in the connection.
</pre>
<p>Turns out I don't need the hyphenation.</p>

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I'll merge this. If folks have any pending questions, happy to take them on in a new PR.

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<p>I'll merge this. If folks have any pending questions, happy to take them on in a new PR.</p>

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Clarify out of order acking


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Merged #2954 into master.

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Closes #2871.
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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2961

-- Commit Summary --

  * Repair rules for NEW_TOKEN

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (4)

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<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #2871.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="463967678" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2871" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2871/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2871">#2871</a>.</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>Repair rules for NEW_TOKEN</li>
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marten-seemann approved this pull request.

LGTM, but do we need some text saying that when receiving a NEW_TOKEN frame, you MUST make sure that it's not a duplicate? Otherwise, a client might just save the token twice, and effectively reuse the token.



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<p>LGTM, but do we need some text saying that when receiving a NEW_TOKEN frame, you MUST make sure that it's not a duplicate? Otherwise, a client might just save the token twice, and effectively reuse the token.</p>

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I think that we already have most of this.  The text lacks some of the specificity you might desire, but that's the nature of specifications.  For instance, we can't bind NEW_TOKEN to an IP address with a "MUST" in the spec because a server might reasonably identify connections from the same NAT as being equivalent and therefore valid (or it might not, depending on circumstance).

I don't plan to do anything about this issue, but I would entertain a PR that improved the text.

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<p>I think that we already have most of this.  The text lacks some of the specificity you might desire, but that's the nature of specifications.  For instance, we can't bind NEW_TOKEN to an IP address with a "MUST" in the spec because a server might reasonably identify connections from the same NAT as being equivalent and therefore valid (or it might not, depending on circumstance).</p>
<p>I don't plan to do anything about this issue, but I would entertain a PR that improved the text.</p>

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This addresses some questions about use of multiple tokens, as well as
cleaning up the text adjacent in minor ways.

Closes #2801.
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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2962

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  * Talk more about multiple tokens

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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (29)

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<p>This addresses some questions about use of multiple tokens, as well as<br>
cleaning up the text adjacent in minor ways.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #2801.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="457342256" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2801" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2801/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2801">#2801</a>.</p>

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  <li>Talk more about multiple tokens</li>
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Kind of, but this text talks about the sender's perspective.
Furthermore, checking for duplicates is inherently racy if you're using tokens for new connections while the old connection is still alive.

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<p>Kind of, but this text talks about the sender's perspective.<br>
Furthermore, checking for duplicates is inherently racy if you're using tokens for new connections while the old connection is still alive.</p>

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There is a text that say:

> A server can send a complete response prior to the client sending an
>    entire request if the response does not depend on any portion of the
>    request that has not been sent and received.  When this is true, a
>    server MAY request that the client abort transmission of a request
>    without error by triggering a QUIC STOP_SENDING frame with error code
>    HTTP_EARLY_RESPONSE, sending a complete response, and cleanly closing
>    its stream.  Clients MUST NOT discard complete responses as a result
>    of having their request terminated abruptly, though clients can
>    always discard responses at their discretion for other reasons.

A server MAY send STOP_SENDING. What should the client do if the server does not send it? Is the client allowed to close the send stream or should it continue until everything has been sent? In the second case the client may receive the complete response before the complete request has been sent. Is there a use case where a sever can send a response before receiving the complete request, but still cares about the request data?

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<p>There is a text that say:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>A server can send a complete response prior to the client sending an<br>
entire request if the response does not depend on any portion of the<br>
request that has not been sent and received.  When this is true, a<br>
server MAY request that the client abort transmission of a request<br>
without error by triggering a QUIC STOP_SENDING frame with error code<br>
HTTP_EARLY_RESPONSE, sending a complete response, and cleanly closing<br>
its stream.  Clients MUST NOT discard complete responses as a result<br>
of having their request terminated abruptly, though clients can<br>
always discard responses at their discretion for other reasons.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>A server MAY send STOP_SENDING. What should the client do if the server does not send it? Is the client allowed to close the send stream or should it continue until everything has been sent? In the second case the client may receive the complete response before the complete request has been sent. Is there a use case where a sever can send a response before receiving the complete request, but still cares about the request data?</p>

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Specify that ECN counts in the ACK frame to be in the same pn_space of the ACK frame. 
Change pseudocode in recovery-draft to reflect that.

Closes #2957 
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  * ECN counts in the ACK frame should be per packet number space

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    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md (19)
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (6)

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<p>Specify that ECN counts in the ACK frame to be in the same pn_space of the ACK frame.<br>
Change pseudocode in recovery-draft to reflect that.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #2957.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="478188912" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2957" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2957/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2957">#2957</a></p>

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  <li>ECN counts in the ACK frame should be per packet number space</li>
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ba72a684009f10e1d740db865a36ada7a05d198f  fix example for reserved transport parameter code points


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> @@ -5536,6 +5545,9 @@ The initial contents of this registry are shown in {{iana-tp-table}}.
 | 0x000e | active_connection_id_limit  | {{transport-parameter-definitions}} |
 {: #iana-tp-table title="Initial QUIC Transport Parameters Entries"}
 
+Additionally, each value of the format `31 * N + 27` for integer values of N
+(that is, `31`, `58`, `85`, ...) MUST NOT be assigned by IANA.

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<p><b>@marten-seemann</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2873#discussion_r312736658">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -5536,6 +5545,9 @@ The initial contents of this registry are shown in {{iana-tp-table}}.
 | 0x000e | active_connection_id_limit  | {{transport-parameter-definitions}} |
 {: #iana-tp-table title=&quot;Initial QUIC Transport Parameters Entries&quot;}
 
+Additionally, each value of the format `31 * N + 27` for integer values of N
+(that is, `31`, `58`, `85`, ...) MUST NOT be assigned by IANA.
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The Stream Commitment Attack part was added in draft-ietf-quic-transport-03, when unidirectional streams were not used.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport-08, streams were split into unidirectional and bidirectional, but this example of stream commitment attack was missed.
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  * Update Stream Commitment Attack example

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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (2)

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<p>The Stream Commitment Attack part was added in draft-ietf-quic-transport-03, when unidirectional streams were not used.</p>
<p>In draft-ietf-quic-transport-08, streams were split into unidirectional and bidirectional, but this example of stream commitment attack was missed.</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>Update Stream Commitment Attack example</li>
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> @@ -5509,7 +5509,7 @@ However, when several streams are initiated at short intervals, transmission
 error may cause STREAM DATA frames opening streams to be received out of

s/STREAM DATA frames/STREAM frames/

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<p><b>@marten-seemann</b> approved this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2965#discussion_r312811145">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -5509,7 +5509,7 @@ However, when several streams are initiated at short intervals, transmission
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>  sequence.  A receiver is obligated to open intervening streams if a
 higher-numbered stream ID is received.  Thus, on a new connection, opening
-stream 2000001 opens 1 million streams, as required by the specification.
+stream 4000000 opens 1 million streams, as required by the specification.

1 million and 1, to be precise ;)

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2965#discussion_r312819816">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  sequence.  A receiver is obligated to open intervening streams if a
 higher-numbered stream ID is received.  Thus, on a new connection, opening
-stream 2000001 opens 1 million streams, as required by the specification.
+stream 4000000 opens 1 million streams, as required by the specification.
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<p>I think this is ready. Unless someone disagrees, I'll mark the corresponding issue as proposal-ready tomorrow.</p>

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I agree with @MikeBishop's assessment above. My read is that all paths forward are effectively rid of the current priority scheme. The discussion of which way to go next is likely to take some more time, but in the meanwhile, does anyone have an issue with removing the existing priority text in draft-ietf-quic-http (as #2922 does)?

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<p>I agree with <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/hovercards?user_id=4273797" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/MikeBishop">@MikeBishop</a>'s assessment above. My read is that all paths forward are effectively rid of the current priority scheme. The discussion of which way to go next is likely to take some more time, but in the meanwhile, does anyone have an issue with removing the existing priority text in draft-ietf-quic-http (as <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="471251962" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2922" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2922/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2922">#2922</a> does)?</p>

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>  immediately reset the congestion controller and round-trip time estimator for
-the new path to initial values (see Sections A.3 and B.3 in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}).
-
-An endpoint MUST NOT return to the send rate used for the previous path unless
-it is reasonably sure that the previous send rate is valid for the new path.
-For instance, a change in the client's port number is likely indicative of a
-rebinding in a middlebox and not a complete change in path.  This determination
-likely depends on heuristics, which could be imperfect; if the new path capacity
-is significantly reduced, ultimately this relies on the congestion controller
-responding to congestion signals and reducing send rates appropriately.
+the new path to initial values (see Sections A.3 and B.3 in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}})
+unless it has knowledge that a previous send rate or round-trip time estimate
+is valid for the new path.  For instance, an endpoint might infer that a change
+in only the client's port number is likely indicative of a NAT rebinding,
+meaning that the new path is likely to have similar bandwidth and round-trip
+time. This determination is likely to be imperfect.  If

Thanks for the editorializing, @tfpauly - incorporated.

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<p><b>@janaiyengar</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2918#discussion_r313138864">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  immediately reset the congestion controller and round-trip time estimator for
-the new path to initial values (see Sections A.3 and B.3 in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}).
-
-An endpoint MUST NOT return to the send rate used for the previous path unless
-it is reasonably sure that the previous send rate is valid for the new path.
-For instance, a change in the client&#39;s port number is likely indicative of a
-rebinding in a middlebox and not a complete change in path.  This determination
-likely depends on heuristics, which could be imperfect; if the new path capacity
-is significantly reduced, ultimately this relies on the congestion controller
-responding to congestion signals and reducing send rates appropriately.
+the new path to initial values (see Sections A.3 and B.3 in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}})
+unless it has knowledge that a previous send rate or round-trip time estimate
+is valid for the new path.  For instance, an endpoint might infer that a change
+in only the client&#39;s port number is likely indicative of a NAT rebinding,
+meaning that the new path is likely to have similar bandwidth and round-trip
+time. This determination is likely to be imperfect.  If
</pre>
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68126deabcb9cb2d36bbf8239e1892660a449d38  Editorial clean-up


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Thanks, @tandf! I've done some editorializing, and merging.

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  Update Stream Commitment Attack example

The Stream Commitment Attack part was added in draft-ietf-quic-transport-03, when unidirectional streams were not used.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport-08, streams were split into unidirectional and bidirectional, but this example of stream commitment attack was missed.


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  s/STREAM DATA frames/STREAM frames/


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  1,000,001 streams to be precise


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Update Stream Commitment Attack example


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Merged #2965 into master.

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I don't think that we'll find new objections.  I marked it myself.

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<p>I don't think that we'll find new objections.  I marked it myself.</p>

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> +
+* If all packets that were sent with the ECT(0) codepoint are eventually deemed
+  lost {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, validation is deemed to have failed.
+
+To reduce the chances of misinterpreting congestive loss as packets dropped by a
+faulty network element, an endpoint could set the ECT(0) codepoint in the first
+ten outgoing packets on a path, or for a period of three RTTs, whichever occurs
+first.  Alternate strategies are possible.  For example, an endpoint could send
+the first ten packets interleaved: five ECT(0)-marked packets interleaved with
+five unmarked packets.  This allows the endpoint to more clearly identify
+congestive loss as such.  Implementations MAY experiment with and use other
+strategies.
+
+#### Receiving ACK Frames
+
+An endpoint that sets ECT(0) or ECT(1) codepoints on packets it transmits MUST

Thanks! That's fine now. Did just reply to Martin's mail. I agree that here it should mention both codepoints.

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<p><b>@mirjak</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2752#discussion_r313288871">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +
+* If all packets that were sent with the ECT(0) codepoint are eventually deemed
+  lost {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, validation is deemed to have failed.
+
+To reduce the chances of misinterpreting congestive loss as packets dropped by a
+faulty network element, an endpoint could set the ECT(0) codepoint in the first
+ten outgoing packets on a path, or for a period of three RTTs, whichever occurs
+first.  Alternate strategies are possible.  For example, an endpoint could send
+the first ten packets interleaved: five ECT(0)-marked packets interleaved with
+five unmarked packets.  This allows the endpoint to more clearly identify
+congestive loss as such.  Implementations MAY experiment with and use other
+strategies.
+
+#### Receiving ACK Frames
+
+An endpoint that sets ECT(0) or ECT(1) codepoints on packets it transmits MUST
</pre>
<p>Thanks! That's fine now. Did just reply to Martin's mail. I agree that here it should mention both codepoints.</p>

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Two different things, but you're probably right that they should both be explicitly defined:

- The "Original destination connection ID" is the DCID used in the client's very first Initial packet.  If the server responded with a Retry, the server needs to:
    - include the ODCID in the Retry packet to verify the Retry packet came from something on-path
    - include the ODCID in the eventual handshake's transport parameters to verify that the Retry packet originated from the server or something cooperating with it, not a MITM
- The "Initial connection ID" is the DCID used in the client's Initial packet to which the server responded with an Initial.  This CID determines the keys used for Initial packets throughout the handshake. (But see #2823.)  This CID might have been server-chosen (from a Retry) or client-chosen (no Retry).

If there's no Retry packet, they refer to the same CID, but I don't think there's a reference to the ODCID outside the context of a Retry.

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<p>Two different things, but you're probably right that they should both be explicitly defined:</p>
<ul>
<li>The "Original destination connection ID" is the DCID used in the client's very first Initial packet.  If the server responded with a Retry, the server needs to:
<ul>
<li>include the ODCID in the Retry packet to verify the Retry packet came from something on-path</li>
<li>include the ODCID in the eventual handshake's transport parameters to verify that the Retry packet originated from the server or something cooperating with it, not a MITM</li>
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<li>The "Initial connection ID" is the DCID used in the client's Initial packet to which the server responded with an Initial.  This CID determines the keys used for Initial packets throughout the handshake. (But see <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="458884091" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2823" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2823/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2823">#2823</a>.)  This CID might have been server-chosen (from a Retry) or client-chosen (no Retry).</li>
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<p>If there's no Retry packet, they refer to the same CID, but I don't think there's a reference to the ODCID outside the context of a Retry.</p>

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#2926 implies a good point:  After this change, the "Initial DCID" and the "original DCID" are always the same.  We should collapse the terms as part of this PR or in a follow-up if we take it.

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<p><a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="471619541" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2926" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2926/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2926">#2926</a> implies a good point:  After this change, the "Initial DCID" and the "original DCID" are always the same.  We should collapse the terms as part of this PR or in a follow-up if we take it.</p>

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>  
-If the Destination Connection ID is zero length and the packet matches the
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-IDs, QUIC processes the packet as part of that connection.  Endpoints SHOULD
-either reject connection attempts that use the same addresses as existing
-connections, or use a non-zero-length Destination Connection ID so that packets
-can be correctly attributed to connections.
+If the Destination Connection ID is zero-length and the packet matches the

```suggestion
If the Destination Connection ID is zero length and the packet matches the
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Agree we should remove the arrow from count.  I guess there's two minds on where array indices point.  I think I inherited the current style.  HPACK only has the 'insertion point' and 'dropping point' arrows, so sidesteps the issue altogether. 

I'm inlined to say it's more clear as is, with Base pointing on the line between what was in the table when encoding started and the Post Base entries.

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<p>Agree we should remove the arrow from count.  I guess there's two minds on where array indices point.  I think I inherited the current style.  HPACK only has the 'insertion point' and 'dropping point' arrows, so sidesteps the issue altogether.</p>
<p>I'm inlined to say it's more clear as is, with Base pointing on the line between what was in the table when encoding started and the Post Base entries.</p>

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> @@ -229,8 +229,9 @@ table that it will emit a reference for.  As new entries are inserted, the
 encoder increases the draining index to maintain the section of the table that
 it will not reference.  If the encoder does not create new references to entries
 with an absolute index lower than the draining index, the number of
-unacknowledged references to those entries will eventually become zero, allowing
-them to be evicted.
+unacknowledged references to every such entry will eventually become zero,
+allowing it to be evicted provided that its insertion has been acknowledged by
+the decoder.

This is now a pretty long sentence.  Maybe end it after 'become zero', and start a new sentence talking about eviction?

> @@ -359,9 +360,9 @@ infer from this instruction that any updates to the dynamic table have been
 received.
 
 The Header Acknowledgement and Stream Cancellation instructions permit the
-encoder to remove references to entries in the dynamic table.  When entries
-have zero references they are no longer considered blocking (see
-{{blocked-insertion}}).
+encoder to remove references to entries in the dynamic table.  When an entry
+with absolute index lower than the Known Received Count has zero references,

Does this leave ambiguous what happens to entries with absolute indices higher than Known Received Count?

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<p><b>@afrind</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2937#discussion_r313623384">draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -229,8 +229,9 @@ table that it will emit a reference for.  As new entries are inserted, the
 encoder increases the draining index to maintain the section of the table that
 it will not reference.  If the encoder does not create new references to entries
 with an absolute index lower than the draining index, the number of
-unacknowledged references to those entries will eventually become zero, allowing
-them to be evicted.
+unacknowledged references to every such entry will eventually become zero,
+allowing it to be evicted provided that its insertion has been acknowledged by
+the decoder.
</pre>
<p>This is now a pretty long sentence.  Maybe end it after 'become zero', and start a new sentence talking about eviction?</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2937#discussion_r313624042">draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -359,9 +360,9 @@ infer from this instruction that any updates to the dynamic table have been
 received.
 
 The Header Acknowledgement and Stream Cancellation instructions permit the
-encoder to remove references to entries in the dynamic table.  When entries
-have zero references they are no longer considered blocking (see
-{{blocked-insertion}}).
+encoder to remove references to entries in the dynamic table.  When an entry
+with absolute index lower than the Known Received Count has zero references,
</pre>
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You can't coalesce Header Acks like you can Insert Count Increment or transport Acks.  The only overhead savings comes from when these are sent to the peer - eg: transport overhead.  The text only says `emits...` the Ack, and doesn't really describe how quickly it has to be conveyed.  But I don't really have a problem with when vs. after either. 

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<p>You can't coalesce Header Acks like you can Insert Count Increment or transport Acks.  The only overhead savings comes from when these are sent to the peer - eg: transport overhead.  The text only says <code>emits...</code> the Ack, and doesn't really describe how quickly it has to be conveyed.  But I don't really have a problem with when vs. after either.</p>

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> @@ -821,10 +828,13 @@ connection error of type `HTTP_QPACK_DECODER_STREAM_ERROR`.
 
 ## Header Block Representations
 
-Header blocks contain compressed representations of header lists and are carried
-in frames on streams defined by the enclosing protocol.  These representations
-reference the static table, or dynamic table in a particular state without
-modifying it.
+A header block consists of a prefix and a possibly empty sequence of
+representations defined in this section.  Each representation corresponds to a
+single header field.  These representations can reference the static table, or
+the dynamic table in a particular state without modifying it.

Wondering if we still need 'without modifying it'.  True HPACK instructions both emitted header fields and modified the state, but it might be redundant in the context of this document, and it makes it read awkwardly.

> @@ -968,8 +978,8 @@ decoded header list, as described in Section 3.2 of [RFC7541].
 If the entry is in the static table, or in the dynamic table with an absolute
 index less than the Base, this representation starts with the '1' 1-bit pattern,
 followed by the `S` bit indicating whether the reference is into the static or
-dynamic table.  The 6-bit prefix integer (see Section 5.1 of [RFC7541]) that
-follows is used to locate the table entry for the header name.  When S=1, the
+dynamic table.  The 6-bit prefix integer (see {{prefixed-integers}}) that
+follows is used to locate the table entry for the header field.  When S=1, the

nice catch!

>  The following bit, 'N', indicates whether an intermediary is permitted to add
 this header to the dynamic header table on subsequent hops. When the 'N' bit is
-set, the encoded header MUST always be encoded with a literal representation. In
-particular, when a peer sends a header field that it received represented as a

It was copied verbatim from HPACK.  Maybe we should leave it in.

>  used to locate the table entry for the header name.  When S=1, the number
 represents the static table index; when S=0, the number is the relative index of
-the entry in the dynamic table.
+the entry in the dynamic table.  Only the header field name stored in the static
+or dynamic table is used. Any header field value MUST be ignored.

I feel like 'Any header field value MUST be ignored' might be confusing since it doesn't say the header field value from the static or dynamic table -- this representation also contains a value.

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<p><b>@afrind</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2941#discussion_r313629753">draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -821,10 +828,13 @@ connection error of type `HTTP_QPACK_DECODER_STREAM_ERROR`.
 
 ## Header Block Representations
 
-Header blocks contain compressed representations of header lists and are carried
-in frames on streams defined by the enclosing protocol.  These representations
-reference the static table, or dynamic table in a particular state without
-modifying it.
+A header block consists of a prefix and a possibly empty sequence of
+representations defined in this section.  Each representation corresponds to a
+single header field.  These representations can reference the static table, or
+the dynamic table in a particular state without modifying it.
</pre>
<p>Wondering if we still need 'without modifying it'.  True HPACK instructions both emitted header fields and modified the state, but it might be redundant in the context of this document, and it makes it read awkwardly.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2941#discussion_r313629973">draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -968,8 +978,8 @@ decoded header list, as described in Section 3.2 of [RFC7541].
 If the entry is in the static table, or in the dynamic table with an absolute
 index less than the Base, this representation starts with the &#39;1&#39; 1-bit pattern,
 followed by the `S` bit indicating whether the reference is into the static or
-dynamic table.  The 6-bit prefix integer (see Section 5.1 of [RFC7541]) that
-follows is used to locate the table entry for the header name.  When S=1, the
+dynamic table.  The 6-bit prefix integer (see {{prefixed-integers}}) that
+follows is used to locate the table entry for the header field.  When S=1, the
</pre>
<p>nice catch!</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2941#discussion_r313630227">draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  The following bit, &#39;N&#39;, indicates whether an intermediary is permitted to add
 this header to the dynamic header table on subsequent hops. When the &#39;N&#39; bit is
-set, the encoded header MUST always be encoded with a literal representation. In
-particular, when a peer sends a header field that it received represented as a
</pre>
<p>It was copied verbatim from HPACK.  Maybe we should leave it in.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2941#discussion_r313630942">draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  used to locate the table entry for the header name.  When S=1, the number
 represents the static table index; when S=0, the number is the relative index of
-the entry in the dynamic table.
+the entry in the dynamic table.  Only the header field name stored in the static
+or dynamic table is used. Any header field value MUST be ignored.
</pre>
<p>I feel like 'Any header field value MUST be ignored' might be confusing since it doesn't say the header field value from the static or dynamic table -- this representation also contains a value.</p>

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The problem with the Handshake is that the client is sending it prior to the ALPN selection, which means it has to send the settings for each protocol it's proposing.

There are a couple interwoven issues here.  Let's try to untangle them:
- We can avoid the lost-settings case if we remove permission for the server to omit unchanged values.  Server MUST send all settings, but MUST NOT indicate any settings more restrictive than those the client has remembered.
- If no SETTINGS frame was received on the same connection as an NST, the client MUST assume the default settings in Early Data.  This also incents the server to actually send the SETTINGS frame even if nothing has changed.

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<p>The problem with the Handshake is that the client is sending it prior to the ALPN selection, which means it has to send the settings for each protocol it's proposing.</p>
<p>There are a couple interwoven issues here.  Let's try to untangle them:</p>
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<li>We can avoid the lost-settings case if we remove permission for the server to omit unchanged values.  Server MUST send all settings, but MUST NOT indicate any settings more restrictive than those the client has remembered.</li>
<li>If no SETTINGS frame was received on the same connection as an NST, the client MUST assume the default settings in Early Data.  This also incents the server to actually send the SETTINGS frame even if nothing has changed.</li>
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I think the proposal for moving it into the handshake only affects the server SETTINGS frame (that's the asymmetry that people are unhappy about), so it's fine. At the time the server sends it, it has decided on ALPN.

You do raise a good point about the ALPN dependency, however. That's a further complication to the QUIC/TLS interface: as long as we remember the server SETTINGS frame across 0-RTT, the QUIC/TLS interface must allow the server to pass the SETTINGS frame into TLS *after* TLS negotiates ALPN and *before* TLS sends tickets, likely in the ALPN callback. This happens independent of when the SETTINGS frame is sent (status quo, handshake, or something else). The only way to avoid that complexity is to stop remembering the SETTINGS frame across 0-RTT.

> There are a couple interwoven issues here. Let's try to untangle them:

I think your two issues are still interwoven. We can't do the second bullet point without the first, otherwise the client and server will get out of sync. But, yeah, this is the "yet another option" I suggested above.

> To that end, I guess there's yet another option: strike that sentence. The server must encode the SETTINGS de novo, and the client can start with either the initial value or the cached value. That ambiguity is odd, but the client already starts with the initial value at 1-RTT, so I think that's less of a nuisance.

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<p>I think the proposal for moving it into the handshake only affects the server SETTINGS frame (that's the asymmetry that people are unhappy about), so it's fine. At the time the server sends it, it has decided on ALPN.</p>
<p>You do raise a good point about the ALPN dependency, however. That's a further complication to the QUIC/TLS interface: as long as we remember the server SETTINGS frame across 0-RTT, the QUIC/TLS interface must allow the server to pass the SETTINGS frame into TLS <em>after</em> TLS negotiates ALPN and <em>before</em> TLS sends tickets, likely in the ALPN callback. This happens independent of when the SETTINGS frame is sent (status quo, handshake, or something else). The only way to avoid that complexity is to stop remembering the SETTINGS frame across 0-RTT.</p>
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<p>There are a couple interwoven issues here. Let's try to untangle them:</p>
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<p>I think your two issues are still interwoven. We can't do the second bullet point without the first, otherwise the client and server will get out of sync. But, yeah, this is the "yet another option" I suggested above.</p>
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<p>To that end, I guess there's yet another option: strike that sentence. The server must encode the SETTINGS de novo, and the client can start with either the initial value or the cached value. That ambiguity is odd, but the client already starts with the initial value at 1-RTT, so I think that's less of a nuisance.</p>
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<p>Thanks for the issue, <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/hovercards?user_id=7945264" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/YuanshanZ">@YuanshanZ</a>, PR looks good.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/ianswett-smaller-stateless-resets
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  Changed paths:
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af2f589dcd5b61a294cbb5b191736345ab9a0a93  Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md


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janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

A few editorial suggestions, but looks good.

>  
 ECT(1) Count:
 : A variable-length integer representing the total number of packets received
-  with the ECT(1) codepoint.
+  with the ECT(1) codepoint in in the same packet number space of the ACK.

```suggestion
  with the ECT(1) codepoint in the packet number space of the ACK frame.
```

> @@ -4586,15 +4586,15 @@ The three ECN Counts are:
 
 ECT(0) Count:
 : A variable-length integer representing the total number of packets received
-  with the ECT(0) codepoint.
+  with the ECT(0) codepoint in the same packet number space of the ACK.

```suggestion
  with the ECT(0) codepoint in the packet number space of the ACK frame.
```

>  
 CE Count:
 : A variable-length integer representing the total number of packets received
-  with the CE codepoint.
+  with the CE codepoint in the same packet number space of the ACK.

```suggestion
  with the CE codepoint in the packet number space of the ACK frame.
```

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I'm closing this PR in favor of #2752.

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Closed #2879.

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> @@ -924,11 +924,19 @@ selected by the client, both to ensure correct routing toward the client and to
 allow the client to validate that the packet is in response to an Initial
 packet.
 
-A zero-length connection ID MAY be used when the connection ID is not needed for
-routing and the address/port tuple of packets is sufficient to identify a
-connection. An endpoint whose peer has selected a zero-length connection ID MUST
-continue to use a zero-length connection ID for the lifetime of the connection
-and MUST NOT send packets from any other local address.
+A zero-length connection ID can be used when a connection ID is not needed
+to route to the correct endpoint. An endpoint SHOULD NOT use a zero-length
+connection ID unless it can use only its IP address and port to identify a
+connection. The IP address and port used by a peer cannot be used for routing

I thought we wanted to say that those weren't adequate on their own. I would also change this to active. "An endpoint SHOULD NOT use only the peer's IP address and port ..."

I would actually suggest dropping this sentence and the sentence after this one. You can go straight to the multiplexing sentence.

> @@ -924,11 +924,19 @@ selected by the client, both to ensure correct routing toward the client and to
 allow the client to validate that the packet is in response to an Initial
 packet.
 
-A zero-length connection ID MAY be used when the connection ID is not needed for
-routing and the address/port tuple of packets is sufficient to identify a
-connection. An endpoint whose peer has selected a zero-length connection ID MUST
-continue to use a zero-length connection ID for the lifetime of the connection
-and MUST NOT send packets from any other local address.
+A zero-length connection ID can be used when a connection ID is not needed
+to route to the correct endpoint. An endpoint SHOULD NOT use a zero-length
+connection ID unless it can use only its IP address and port to identify a
+connection. The IP address and port used by a peer cannot be used for routing
+or connection identification as these values can change during a connection's
+lifetime, and the peer can reuse a given address and port for additional
+connections. Similarly, the peer's connection IDs cannot be used for routing
+or identification, as they are not transmitted in the short header packets
+they send. Note that multiplexing while using zero-length connection IDs and

Suggested: "Multiplexing connections on the same local IP address and port while using zero-length connection IDs will cause failures in the presence of connection migration, NAT rebinding, and client
port reuse."  Drop the rest of this sentence -- its redundant with the "SHOULD NOT" above.


> @@ -924,11 +924,19 @@ selected by the client, both to ensure correct routing toward the client and to
 allow the client to validate that the packet is in response to an Initial
 packet.
 
-A zero-length connection ID MAY be used when the connection ID is not needed for
-routing and the address/port tuple of packets is sufficient to identify a
-connection. An endpoint whose peer has selected a zero-length connection ID MUST
-continue to use a zero-length connection ID for the lifetime of the connection
-and MUST NOT send packets from any other local address.
+A zero-length connection ID can be used when a connection ID is not needed
+to route to the correct endpoint. An endpoint SHOULD NOT use a zero-length
+connection ID unless it can use only its IP address and port to identify a

```suggestion
connection ID unless it can use only its local IP address and port to identify a
```

> -connection. An endpoint whose peer has selected a zero-length connection ID MUST
-continue to use a zero-length connection ID for the lifetime of the connection
-and MUST NOT send packets from any other local address.
+A zero-length connection ID can be used when a connection ID is not needed
+to route to the correct endpoint. An endpoint SHOULD NOT use a zero-length
+connection ID unless it can use only its IP address and port to identify a
+connection. The IP address and port used by a peer cannot be used for routing
+or connection identification as these values can change during a connection's
+lifetime, and the peer can reuse a given address and port for additional
+connections. Similarly, the peer's connection IDs cannot be used for routing
+or identification, as they are not transmitted in the short header packets
+they send. Note that multiplexing while using zero-length connection IDs and
+relying on the four-tuple of IP addresses and ports for routing will cause
+failures in the presence of connection migration, NAT rebinding, and client
+port reuse; and therefore MUST NOT be done unless an endpoint is certain that
+those protocol features are not in use.

I agree with @igorlord that there's redundancy here. Specifically, "endpoint SHOULD NOT use a zero-length connection ID unless it can use only its IP address and port" is at odds with "multiplexing while using zero-length connection IDs [...] MUST NOT be done". I've suggested fixes above.

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>  
 CE Count:
 : A variable-length integer representing the total number of packets received
-  with the CE codepoint.
+  with the CE codepoint in the same packet number space of the ACK.

Thanks for the suggestion! I've fixed this one along with the other two in the latest commit. 

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2964#discussion_r314016026">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  
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 : A variable-length integer representing the total number of packets received
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+  with the CE codepoint in the same packet number space of the ACK.
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<p>Thanks for the suggestion! I've fixed this one along with the other two in the latest commit.</p>

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MikeBishop approved this pull request.

Mostly good improvements; a few things to fix up further.

> @@ -821,10 +828,13 @@ connection error of type `HTTP_QPACK_DECODER_STREAM_ERROR`.
 
 ## Header Block Representations
 
-Header blocks contain compressed representations of header lists and are carried
-in frames on streams defined by the enclosing protocol.  These representations
-reference the static table, or dynamic table in a particular state without
-modifying it.
+A header block consists of a prefix and a possibly empty sequence of
+representations defined in this section.  Each representation corresponds to a
+single header field.  These representations can reference the static table, or
+the dynamic table in a particular state without modifying it.

The difference from HPACK seems worth noting, but perhaps the sentence could be reworded to flow better.  How about something like "These representations reference the static table and the dynamic table in a particular state, but do not modify the state of the dynamic table."

>  The following bit, 'N', indicates whether an intermediary is permitted to add
 this header to the dynamic header table on subsequent hops. When the 'N' bit is
-set, the encoded header MUST always be encoded with a literal representation. In
-particular, when a peer sends a header field that it received represented as a

I see what you mean about it being a restatement, but it's a ramification of "MUST always" that isn't immediately obvious.  If it's not stated, people will mess this up, I guarantee.  (They do anyway, because not all HPACK libraries tell you whether this bit was set on the way in.)

It's not my favorite feature of HPACK, but let's either keep the clarification or remove the requirement entirely.  If you want to discuss the latter, I would suggest doing so in a separate issue and PR.

>  used to locate the table entry for the header name.  When S=1, the number
 represents the static table index; when S=0, the number is the relative index of
-the entry in the dynamic table.
+the entry in the dynamic table.  Only the header field name stored in the static
+or dynamic table is used. Any header field value MUST be ignored.

Or perhaps make an affirmative statement instead: "Only the header field name is taken from the static or dynamic table entry; the header field value is encoded as a string literal following the index."  There's currently no text that I see referring to the value portion of the instruction.

>  
 
 ### Literal Header Field With Post-Base Name Reference
 
 If the name entry is in the dynamic table with an absolute index greater than or
-equal to the Base, the representation starts with the '0000' four-bit
-pattern. The fifth bit is the 'N' bit as described in
-{{literal-name-reference}}.  Finally, the header field name is represented using
-the post-base index of that entry (see {{post-base}}) encoded as an integer with
-a 3-bit prefix.
+equal to the Base, the representation starts with the '0000' four-bit pattern.
+The fifth bit is the 'N' bit as described in {{literal-name-reference}}.
+Finally, the header field name is represented using the post-base index of that
+entry (see {{post-base}}) encoded as an integer with a 3-bit prefix (see
+{{prefixed-integers}}).

Likewise, no mention here of the string literal for the value.  (Pre-existing problem, not one you introduced.)

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<p><b>@MikeBishop</b> approved this pull request.</p>

<p>Mostly good improvements; a few things to fix up further.</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2941#discussion_r314028731">draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -821,10 +828,13 @@ connection error of type `HTTP_QPACK_DECODER_STREAM_ERROR`.
 
 ## Header Block Representations
 
-Header blocks contain compressed representations of header lists and are carried
-in frames on streams defined by the enclosing protocol.  These representations
-reference the static table, or dynamic table in a particular state without
-modifying it.
+A header block consists of a prefix and a possibly empty sequence of
+representations defined in this section.  Each representation corresponds to a
+single header field.  These representations can reference the static table, or
+the dynamic table in a particular state without modifying it.
</pre>
<p>The difference from HPACK seems worth noting, but perhaps the sentence could be reworded to flow better.  How about something like "These representations reference the static table and the dynamic table in a particular state, but do not modify the state of the dynamic table."</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2941#discussion_r314029686">draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  The following bit, &#39;N&#39;, indicates whether an intermediary is permitted to add
 this header to the dynamic header table on subsequent hops. When the &#39;N&#39; bit is
-set, the encoded header MUST always be encoded with a literal representation. In
-particular, when a peer sends a header field that it received represented as a
</pre>
<p>I see what you mean about it being a restatement, but it's a ramification of "MUST always" that isn't immediately obvious.  If it's not stated, people will mess this up, I guarantee.  (They do anyway, because not all HPACK libraries tell you whether this bit was set on the way in.)</p>
<p>It's not my favorite feature of HPACK, but let's either keep the clarification or remove the requirement entirely.  If you want to discuss the latter, I would suggest doing so in a separate issue and PR.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2941#discussion_r314032585">draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  used to locate the table entry for the header name.  When S=1, the number
 represents the static table index; when S=0, the number is the relative index of
-the entry in the dynamic table.
+the entry in the dynamic table.  Only the header field name stored in the static
+or dynamic table is used. Any header field value MUST be ignored.
</pre>
<p>Or perhaps make an affirmative statement instead: "Only the header field name is taken from the static or dynamic table entry; the header field value is encoded as a string literal following the index."  There's currently no text that I see referring to the value portion of the instruction.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2941#discussion_r314032761">draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  
 
 ### Literal Header Field With Post-Base Name Reference
 
 If the name entry is in the dynamic table with an absolute index greater than or
-equal to the Base, the representation starts with the &#39;0000&#39; four-bit
-pattern. The fifth bit is the &#39;N&#39; bit as described in
-{{literal-name-reference}}.  Finally, the header field name is represented using
-the post-base index of that entry (see {{post-base}}) encoded as an integer with
-a 3-bit prefix.
+equal to the Base, the representation starts with the &#39;0000&#39; four-bit pattern.
+The fifth bit is the &#39;N&#39; bit as described in {{literal-name-reference}}.
+Finally, the header field name is represented using the post-base index of that
+entry (see {{post-base}}) encoded as an integer with a 3-bit prefix (see
+{{prefixed-integers}}).
</pre>
<p>Likewise, no mention here of the string literal for the value.  (Pre-existing problem, not one you introduced.)</p>

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I'm carefully parsing the wording in quic-http sec. 4.1.1 and don't think it's right:

> Endpoints MUST NOT
>    generate pseudo-header fields other than those defined in [HTTP2].
>    The restrictions on the use of pseudo-header fields in
>    Section 8.1.2.1 of [HTTP2] also apply to HTTP/3.

In RFC 7540, 8.1.2.1 says

> Endpoints MUST NOT
>    generate pseudo-header fields other than those defined in this
>    document...
> 
> Pseudo-header fields defined for requests MUST NOT appear
>    in responses; pseudo-header fields defined for responses MUST NOT
>    appear in requests.  Pseudo-header fields MUST NOT appear in
>    trailers.  Endpoints MUST treat a request or response that contains
>    undefined or invalid pseudo-header fields as malformed
>    (Section 8.1.2.6).
> 
>    All pseudo-header fields MUST appear in the header block before
>    regular header fields.  Any request or response that contains a
>    pseudo-header field that appears in a header block after a regular
>    header field MUST be treated as malformed (Section 8.1.2.6).

This notably does NOT include the further restrictions in 8.1.2.3:

> All HTTP/2 requests MUST include exactly one valid value for the
>    ":method", ":scheme", and ":path" pseudo-header fields, unless it is
>    a CONNECT request (Section 8.3).  An HTTP request that omits
>    mandatory pseudo-header fields is malformed (Section 8.1.2.6).

I am far from an expert on HTTP headers, but I suspect it's not right that clients could send quantities of :method, :scheme, and :path other than 1.

We should probably fix the section reference, though I haven't reviewed 8.1.2 carefully enough to know exactly how that should read.

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<p>I'm carefully parsing the wording in quic-http sec. 4.1.1 and don't think it's right:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Endpoints MUST NOT<br>
generate pseudo-header fields other than those defined in [HTTP2].<br>
The restrictions on the use of pseudo-header fields in<br>
Section 8.1.2.1 of [HTTP2] also apply to HTTP/3.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>In RFC 7540, 8.1.2.1 says</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Endpoints MUST NOT<br>
generate pseudo-header fields other than those defined in this<br>
document...</p>
<p>Pseudo-header fields defined for requests MUST NOT appear<br>
in responses; pseudo-header fields defined for responses MUST NOT<br>
appear in requests.  Pseudo-header fields MUST NOT appear in<br>
trailers.  Endpoints MUST treat a request or response that contains<br>
undefined or invalid pseudo-header fields as malformed<br>
(Section 8.1.2.6).</p>
<p>All pseudo-header fields MUST appear in the header block before<br>
regular header fields.  Any request or response that contains a<br>
pseudo-header field that appears in a header block after a regular<br>
header field MUST be treated as malformed (Section 8.1.2.6).</p>
</blockquote>
<p>This notably does NOT include the further restrictions in 8.1.2.3:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>All HTTP/2 requests MUST include exactly one valid value for the<br>
":method", ":scheme", and ":path" pseudo-header fields, unless it is<br>
a CONNECT request (Section 8.3).  An HTTP request that omits<br>
mandatory pseudo-header fields is malformed (Section 8.1.2.6).</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I am far from an expert on HTTP headers, but I suspect it's not right that clients could send quantities of :method, :scheme, and :path other than 1.</p>
<p>We should probably fix the section reference, though I haven't reviewed 8.1.2 carefully enough to know exactly how that should read.</p>

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This only changes pseudocode and no normative text, so I'm inclined to mark it editorial and merge it.

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
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      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/de0c48779aee0ef3731032239f8c65ad03c11a75
  Author: Yuanshan <yuanshan_zhang@apple.com>
  Date:   2019-08-14 (Wed, 14 Aug 2019)

  Changed paths:
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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

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  ECN counts in the ACK frame should be in the same pn_space of the ACK frame (#2964)

* ECN counts in the ACK frame should be per packet number space

* Editorial Changes According to Review Comments



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>  
 * Any increase in either ECT(0) or ECT(1) counts, plus any increase in the CE
   count, MUST be no smaller than the number of packets sent with the
   corresponding ECT codepoint that are newly acknowledged in this ACK frame.
   This step detects any erroneous network remarking from ECT(0) to ECT(1) (or
   vice versa).
 
+Processing ECN counts out of order can result in validation failure.  An
+endpoint SHOULD NOT perform this validation if this ACK frame does not advance
+the largest packet number acknowledged in this connection.

Connection scoped works for me, at least for now.  When we have a way to ACK packets on different paths at the same time, we can revisit this question.

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<p><b>@ianswett</b> approved this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2752#discussion_r314078019">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
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 * Any increase in either ECT(0) or ECT(1) counts, plus any increase in the CE
   count, MUST be no smaller than the number of packets sent with the
   corresponding ECT codepoint that are newly acknowledged in this ACK frame.
   This step detects any erroneous network remarking from ECT(0) to ECT(1) (or
   vice versa).
 
+Processing ECN counts out of order can result in validation failure.  An
+endpoint SHOULD NOT perform this validation if this ACK frame does not advance
+the largest packet number acknowledged in this connection.
</pre>
<p>Connection scoped works for me, at least for now.  When we have a way to ACK packets on different paths at the same time, we can revisit this question.</p>

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  * Preface QUIC frames with "QUIC"

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The first of these is already addressed in the draft, though it could be improved.

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<p>The first of these is already addressed in the draft, though it could be improved.</p>

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This forbids the use of duplicate stateless reset tokens.

It also cleans up some of the related language about matching of tokens.

Closes #2669, #2785.
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  * Better narrow stateless reset token validity
  * Only active connection IDs are relevant
  * Forbid use of duplicate stateless reset tokens

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<p>This forbids the use of duplicate stateless reset tokens.</p>
<p>It also cleans up some of the related language about matching of tokens.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #2669.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="441196678" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2669" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2669/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2669">#2669</a>, <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="455386823" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2785" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2785/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2785">#2785</a>.</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>Better narrow stateless reset token validity</li>
  <li>Only active connection IDs are relevant</li>
  <li>Forbid use of duplicate stateless reset tokens</li>
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In reviewing this, I think we've messed up badly.  We currently only mandate the use of a new connection ID for the initiator of a migration.  A peer that responds to a connection migration has to change a connection ID if the initiator changed their connection ID.  

> An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID if it initiates connection migration. Using a new connection ID eliminates the use of the connection ID for linking activity from the same connection on different networks.

That needs to be fixed promptly.  Then the concerns that @tatsuhiro-t raises here might seem less surprising.

@mnot, @larseggert, can we recategorize this as design?  Thanks.

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<p>In reviewing this, I think we've messed up badly.  We currently only mandate the use of a new connection ID for the initiator of a migration.  A peer that responds to a connection migration has to change a connection ID if the initiator changed their connection ID.</p>
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<p>An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID if it initiates connection migration. Using a new connection ID eliminates the use of the connection ID for linking activity from the same connection on different networks.</p>
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<p>That needs to be fixed promptly.  Then the concerns that <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/hovercards?user_id=404610" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/tatsuhiro-t">@tatsuhiro-t</a> raises here might seem less surprising.</p>
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  Prevent linkability from responding to migration

This closes the rather serious hole we left when we attempted to limit
the effect of perpetual changing of connection IDs.  This uses a
narrower formulation, that I believe will avoid perpetual changes.  But
it does require reciprocal connection ID changes where endpoints
genuinely do migrate.

It's a design change unfortunately, but I hope non-controversial.

Closes #2778.



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This closes the rather serious hole we left when we attempted to limit
the effect of perpetual changing of connection IDs.  This uses a
narrower formulation, that I believe will avoid perpetual changes.  But
it does require reciprocal connection ID changes where endpoints
genuinely do migrate.

It's a design change unfortunately, but I hope non-controversial.

Closes #2778.
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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2969

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  * Prevent linkability from responding to migration

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (16)

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<p>This closes the rather serious hole we left when we attempted to limit<br>
the effect of perpetual changing of connection IDs.  This uses a<br>
narrower formulation, that I believe will avoid perpetual changes.  But<br>
it does require reciprocal connection ID changes where endpoints<br>
genuinely do migrate.</p>
<p>It's a design change unfortunately, but I hope non-controversial.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #2778.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="453963045" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2778" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2778/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2778">#2778</a>.</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>Prevent linkability from responding to migration</li>
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9c1e23c2adcc47012a38e1eca4575ea0480446c6  line length limit


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> @@ -2057,11 +2057,17 @@ linked by any other entity.
 At any time, endpoints MAY change the Destination Connection ID they send to a
 value that has not been used on another path.
 
-An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID if it initiates connection migration.
-Using a new connection ID eliminates the use of the connection ID for linking
-activity from the same connection on different networks.  Header protection
-ensures that packet numbers cannot be used to correlate activity.  This does not
-prevent other properties of packets, such as timing and size, from being used to
+An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID if it initiates connection migration as
+described in {{initiating-migration}}.  An endpoint MUST use a new
+connection ID in response to a connection migration if the packet that initiates
+migration uses a different connection ID to packets received on any previous
+path.

I wonder if using the term "initiate a connection migration" is correct, as to me it seems to imply what [section 9.2](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#rfc.section.9.2) talks, but not [path probing (section 9.1)](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#rfc.section.9.1).

Shouldn't we better state that, an endpoint MUST use a new connection ID when responding to a packet on a new path, using a new connection ID?

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2969#discussion_r314172167">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -2057,11 +2057,17 @@ linked by any other entity.
 At any time, endpoints MAY change the Destination Connection ID they send to a
 value that has not been used on another path.
 
-An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID if it initiates connection migration.
-Using a new connection ID eliminates the use of the connection ID for linking
-activity from the same connection on different networks.  Header protection
-ensures that packet numbers cannot be used to correlate activity.  This does not
-prevent other properties of packets, such as timing and size, from being used to
+An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID if it initiates connection migration as
+described in {{initiating-migration}}.  An endpoint MUST use a new
+connection ID in response to a connection migration if the packet that initiates
+migration uses a different connection ID to packets received on any previous
+path.
</pre>
<p>I wonder if using the term "initiate a connection migration" is correct, as to me it seems to imply what <a href="https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#rfc.section.9.2" rel="nofollow">section 9.2</a> talks, but not <a href="https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#rfc.section.9.1" rel="nofollow">path probing (section 9.1)</a>.</p>
<p>Shouldn't we better state that, an endpoint MUST use a new connection ID when responding to a packet on a new path, using a new connection ID?</p>

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> In reviewing this, I think we've messed up badly. We currently only mandate the use of a new connection ID for the initiator of a migration. A peer that responds to a connection migration has to change a connection ID if the initiator changed their connection ID.

This has been discussed at length and while I tend to agree that this is not a good design, I believe things ended up as they are due to concerns about endless CID change loops. I think that can be prevented without too much complexity, but that argument was one of the drivers, as I recall.

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<p>In reviewing this, I think we've messed up badly. We currently only mandate the use of a new connection ID for the initiator of a migration. A peer that responds to a connection migration has to change a connection ID if the initiator changed their connection ID.</p>
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<p>This has been discussed at length and while I tend to agree that this is not a good design, I believe things ended up as they are due to concerns about endless CID change loops. I think that can be prevented without too much complexity, but that argument was one of the drivers, as I recall.</p>

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mikkelfj commented on this pull request.



> @@ -2057,11 +2057,17 @@ linked by any other entity.
 At any time, endpoints MAY change the Destination Connection ID they send to a
 value that has not been used on another path.
 
-An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID if it initiates connection migration.
-Using a new connection ID eliminates the use of the connection ID for linking
-activity from the same connection on different networks.  Header protection
-ensures that packet numbers cannot be used to correlate activity.  This does not
-prevent other properties of packets, such as timing and size, from being used to
+An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID if it initiates connection migration as
+described in {{initiating-migration}}.  An endpoint MUST use a new
+connection ID in response to a connection migration if the packet that initiates
+migration uses a different connection ID to packets received on any previous
+path.

Is it feasible to remember all past CID's?

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<p><b>@mikkelfj</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2969#discussion_r314181948">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -2057,11 +2057,17 @@ linked by any other entity.
 At any time, endpoints MAY change the Destination Connection ID they send to a
 value that has not been used on another path.
 
-An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID if it initiates connection migration.
-Using a new connection ID eliminates the use of the connection ID for linking
-activity from the same connection on different networks.  Header protection
-ensures that packet numbers cannot be used to correlate activity.  This does not
-prevent other properties of packets, such as timing and size, from being used to
+An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID if it initiates connection migration as
+described in {{initiating-migration}}.  An endpoint MUST use a new
+connection ID in response to a connection migration if the packet that initiates
+migration uses a different connection ID to packets received on any previous
+path.
</pre>
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The problem was that we over-rotated.  Now we don't require any change on the responding endpoint's part, which means we have near-perfect linkability across migrations.  I think that the proposed change is the minimal one we can mandate.

I might prefer to have something slightly better, but doing that without also flirting with the infinite loop was too hard.

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<p>The problem was that we over-rotated.  Now we don't require any change on the responding endpoint's part, which means we have near-perfect linkability across migrations.  I think that the proposed change is the minimal one we can mandate.</p>
<p>I might prefer to have something slightly better, but doing that without also flirting with the infinite loop was too hard.</p>

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> @@ -2057,11 +2057,17 @@ linked by any other entity.
 At any time, endpoints MAY change the Destination Connection ID they send to a
 value that has not been used on another path.
 
-An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID if it initiates connection migration.
-Using a new connection ID eliminates the use of the connection ID for linking
-activity from the same connection on different networks.  Header protection
-ensures that packet numbers cannot be used to correlate activity.  This does not
-prevent other properties of packets, such as timing and size, from being used to
+An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID if it initiates connection migration as
+described in {{initiating-migration}}.  An endpoint MUST use a new
+connection ID in response to a connection migration if the packet that initiates
+migration uses a different connection ID to packets received on any previous
+path.

Maybe, but you are right, this could be better.  I just don't know how to word that without turning the sentence into an essay.  Suggestions sought.

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<p><b>@martinthomson</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2969#discussion_r314183537">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -2057,11 +2057,17 @@ linked by any other entity.
 At any time, endpoints MAY change the Destination Connection ID they send to a
 value that has not been used on another path.
 
-An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID if it initiates connection migration.
-Using a new connection ID eliminates the use of the connection ID for linking
-activity from the same connection on different networks.  Header protection
-ensures that packet numbers cannot be used to correlate activity.  This does not
-prevent other properties of packets, such as timing and size, from being used to
+An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID if it initiates connection migration as
+described in {{initiating-migration}}.  An endpoint MUST use a new
+connection ID in response to a connection migration if the packet that initiates
+migration uses a different connection ID to packets received on any previous
+path.
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<p>Maybe, but you are right, this could be better.  I just don't know how to word that without turning the sentence into an essay.  Suggestions sought.</p>

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Agreed. IIUC, the only endpoint that "initiates" a CID change is the client, because only the client side that migrates (or probes) a new path. This is the case for SPA too.

Therefore, I believe that stating something along the lines of the following is sufficient: a server MUST respond with a new CID to a packet that has been received on a new path with a new CID.

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<p>Agreed. IIUC, the only endpoint that "initiates" a CID change is the client, because only the client side that migrates (or probes) a new path. This is the case for SPA too.</p>
<p>Therefore, I believe that stating something along the lines of the following is sufficient: a server MUST respond with a new CID to a packet that has been received on a new path with a new CID.</p>

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mikkelfj commented on this pull request.



> @@ -2057,11 +2057,17 @@ linked by any other entity.
 At any time, endpoints MAY change the Destination Connection ID they send to a
 value that has not been used on another path.
 
-An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID if it initiates connection migration.
-Using a new connection ID eliminates the use of the connection ID for linking
-activity from the same connection on different networks.  Header protection
-ensures that packet numbers cannot be used to correlate activity.  This does not
-prevent other properties of packets, such as timing and size, from being used to
+An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID if it initiates connection migration as
+described in {{initiating-migration}}.  An endpoint MUST use a new
+connection ID in response to a connection migration if the packet that initiates
+migration uses a different connection ID to packets received on any previous
+path.

The server must have a short list if issued CID's. It suffice that the CID is in that list, and that the client does not reuse old CID's - as is already the case. So something like 

```
An endpoint MUST use a new
connection ID in response to a connection migration that uses a new connection ID from the list of issued connection ID's.```

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<p><b>@mikkelfj</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2969#discussion_r314291610">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -2057,11 +2057,17 @@ linked by any other entity.
 At any time, endpoints MAY change the Destination Connection ID they send to a
 value that has not been used on another path.
 
-An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID if it initiates connection migration.
-Using a new connection ID eliminates the use of the connection ID for linking
-activity from the same connection on different networks.  Header protection
-ensures that packet numbers cannot be used to correlate activity.  This does not
-prevent other properties of packets, such as timing and size, from being used to
+An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID if it initiates connection migration as
+described in {{initiating-migration}}.  An endpoint MUST use a new
+connection ID in response to a connection migration if the packet that initiates
+migration uses a different connection ID to packets received on any previous
+path.
</pre>
<p>The server must have a short list if issued CID's. It suffice that the CID is in that list, and that the client does not reuse old CID's - as is already the case. So something like</p>
<pre><code>An endpoint MUST use a new
connection ID in response to a connection migration that uses a new connection ID from the list of issued connection ID's.```
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Was this text rewritten in #2857?  I thought the intent was to no longer reference transport frames in HTTP once that was merged.

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ianswett approved this pull request.

Some suggestions, but looks good.

> @@ -1632,13 +1633,22 @@ NEW_TOKEN frame.  A token obtained in a Retry packet MUST be used immediately
 during the connection attempt and cannot be used in subsequent connection
 attempts.
 
-A client SHOULD NOT reuse a token in different connections. Reusing a token
-allows connections to be linked by entities on the network path
-(see {{migration-linkability}}).  A client MUST NOT reuse a token if it
-believes that its point of network attachment has changed since the token was
-last used; that is, if there is a change in its local IP address or network
-interface.  A client needs to start the connection process over if it migrates
-prior to completing the handshake.
+A client SHOULD NOT reuse a token in different connections.  Reusing a token
+allows connections to be linked by entities on the network path; see
+{{migration-linkability}}.  A client MUST NOT reuse a token if it believes that
+its point of network attachment has changed since the token was last used; that
+is, if there is a change in its local IP address or network interface.  A client
+needs to start the connection process over if it migrates prior to completing

I think it'd be preferable to avoid the word 'migrate' here, and reuse the preceding text: "if there is a change in its local IP address or network interface."?

> -allows connections to be linked by entities on the network path
-(see {{migration-linkability}}).  A client MUST NOT reuse a token if it
-believes that its point of network attachment has changed since the token was
-last used; that is, if there is a change in its local IP address or network
-interface.  A client needs to start the connection process over if it migrates
-prior to completing the handshake.
+A client SHOULD NOT reuse a token in different connections.  Reusing a token
+allows connections to be linked by entities on the network path; see
+{{migration-linkability}}.  A client MUST NOT reuse a token if it believes that
+its point of network attachment has changed since the token was last used; that
+is, if there is a change in its local IP address or network interface.  A client
+needs to start the connection process over if it migrates prior to completing
+the handshake.
+
+Clients might receive multiple tokens on a single connection.  Aside from
+preventing linkability, any token can be used in connection attempt.  Servers

```suggestion
preventing linkability, any token can be used in any connection attempt.  Servers
```

I think this is what you meant?

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<p><b>@ianswett</b> approved this pull request.</p>=0D
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> @@ -2057,11 +2057,17 @@ linked by any other entity.
 At any time, endpoints MAY change the Destination Connection ID they send to a
 value that has not been used on another path.
 
-An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID if it initiates connection migration.
-Using a new connection ID eliminates the use of the connection ID for linking
-activity from the same connection on different networks.  Header protection
-ensures that packet numbers cannot be used to correlate activity.  This does not
-prevent other properties of packets, such as timing and size, from being used to
+An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID if it initiates connection migration as
+described in {{initiating-migration}}.  An endpoint MUST use a new
+connection ID in response to a connection migration if the packet that initiates

```suggestion
connection ID in response to a change in peer IP or port if the first packet arriving from the new IP and port
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(and delete the word migration on the next line)

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I believe that this is resolved by https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2933.

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While I understand the argument outlined in the blog post @MikeBishop linked above, and would not be unhappy if that was the widespread convention, I am worried that this is not the mental model that most engineers share.  I think the index--element bijection is the general convention, and deviating from that might cause confusion.

A particular source of confusion arising in this situation even for people used to the "indices point between elments" convention is that on the two figures in question, indices increase to the left. 
 Therefore the element with a given index is not the one on the right of the arrow, but the one on the left, breaking the rule of thumb mentioned in the blog post.

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<p>While I understand the argument outlined in the blog post <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/hovercards?user_id=4273797" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/MikeBishop">@MikeBishop</a> linked above, and would not be unhappy if that was the widespread convention, I am worried that this is not the mental model that most engineers share.  I think the index--element bijection is the general convention, and deviating from that might cause confusion.</p>
<p>A particular source of confusion arising in this situation even for people used to the "indices point between elments" convention is that on the two figures in question, indices increase to the left.<br>
Therefore the element with a given index is not the one on the right of the arrow, but the one on the left, breaking the rule of thumb mentioned in the blog post.</p>

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44642c25477cd990e91e354ae0e069255e5031db  Revert changes to section 2.1.2.1. Avoiding Blocked Insertions


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> @@ -229,8 +229,9 @@ table that it will emit a reference for.  As new entries are inserted, the
 encoder increases the draining index to maintain the section of the table that
 it will not reference.  If the encoder does not create new references to entries
 with an absolute index lower than the draining index, the number of
-unacknowledged references to those entries will eventually become zero, allowing
-them to be evicted.
+unacknowledged references to every such entry will eventually become zero,
+allowing it to be evicted provided that its insertion has been acknowledged by
+the decoder.

Ah, let me just revert the change to this paragraph.  No matter how I try to reword it, mentioning acknowledgement of the insertion always leaves it more confusing that the original text.  After all, if the number of unacknowledged references _becomes_ zero, that means it was not zero beforehand, therefore the encoder knows for sure that the insertion has been processed by the decoder.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2937#discussion_r314393645">draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -229,8 +229,9 @@ table that it will emit a reference for.  As new entries are inserted, the
 encoder increases the draining index to maintain the section of the table that
 it will not reference.  If the encoder does not create new references to entries
 with an absolute index lower than the draining index, the number of
-unacknowledged references to those entries will eventually become zero, allowing
-them to be evicted.
+unacknowledged references to every such entry will eventually become zero,
+allowing it to be evicted provided that its insertion has been acknowledged by
+the decoder.
</pre>
<p>Ah, let me just revert the change to this paragraph.  No matter how I try to reword it, mentioning acknowledgement of the insertion always leaves it more confusing that the original text.  After all, if the number of unacknowledged references <em>becomes</em> zero, that means it was not zero beforehand, therefore the encoder knows for sure that the insertion has been processed by the decoder.</p>

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> @@ -359,9 +360,9 @@ infer from this instruction that any updates to the dynamic table have been
 received.
 
 The Header Acknowledgement and Stream Cancellation instructions permit the
-encoder to remove references to entries in the dynamic table.  When entries
-have zero references they are no longer considered blocking (see
-{{blocked-insertion}}).
+encoder to remove references to entries in the dynamic table.  When an entry
+with absolute index lower than the Known Received Count has zero references,

I don't believe so.  It kind of implies that such an entry is considered blocking, which is true.  Note that if the entry is ever referenced in a header block and that reference is acknowledged, that guarantees that the Known Received Count is larger than the absolute index of the entry.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2937#discussion_r314395065">draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -359,9 +360,9 @@ infer from this instruction that any updates to the dynamic table have been
 received.
 
 The Header Acknowledgement and Stream Cancellation instructions permit the
-encoder to remove references to entries in the dynamic table.  When entries
-have zero references they are no longer considered blocking (see
-{{blocked-insertion}}).
+encoder to remove references to entries in the dynamic table.  When an entry
+with absolute index lower than the Known Received Count has zero references,
</pre>
<p>I don't believe so.  It kind of implies that such an entry is considered blocking, which is true.  Note that if the entry is ever referenced in a header block and that reference is acknowledged, that guarantees that the Known Received Count is larger than the absolute index of the entry.</p>

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> @@ -2353,12 +2353,14 @@ endpoint that wishes to communicate a fatal connection error MUST use a
 CONNECTION_CLOSE frame if it has sufficient state to do so.
 
 To support this process, a token is sent by endpoints.  The token is carried in
-the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame sent by either peer, and servers can specify the
-stateless_reset_token transport parameter during the handshake (clients cannot
-because their transport parameters don't have confidentiality protection).  This
-value is protected by encryption, so only client and server know this value.
-Tokens are invalidated when their associated connection ID is retired via a
-RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame ({{frame-retire-connection-id}}).
+the Stateless Reset Token field of a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame.  Servers can also
+specify a stateless_reset_token transport parameter during the handshake that
+applies to the connection ID that it select during the handshake; clients cannot

```suggestion
applies to the connection ID that it selected during the handshake; clients cannot
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bencebeky commented on this pull request.

Thank you both for the great feedback!

> @@ -821,10 +828,13 @@ connection error of type `HTTP_QPACK_DECODER_STREAM_ERROR`.
 
 ## Header Block Representations
 
-Header blocks contain compressed representations of header lists and are carried
-in frames on streams defined by the enclosing protocol.  These representations
-reference the static table, or dynamic table in a particular state without
-modifying it.
+A header block consists of a prefix and a possibly empty sequence of
+representations defined in this section.  Each representation corresponds to a
+single header field.  These representations can reference the static table, or
+the dynamic table in a particular state without modifying it.

How about "These representations reference the static table or the dynamic table in a particular state, but do not modify that state."?


>  The following bit, 'N', indicates whether an intermediary is permitted to add
 this header to the dynamic header table on subsequent hops. When the 'N' bit is
-set, the encoded header MUST always be encoded with a literal representation. In
-particular, when a peer sends a header field that it received represented as a

I'd rather not find out whether people would actually mess this up.  Let me revert the removal of this sentence.

>  used to locate the table entry for the header name.  When S=1, the number
 represents the static table index; when S=0, the number is the relative index of
-the entry in the dynamic table.
+the entry in the dynamic table.  Only the header field name stored in the static
+or dynamic table is used. Any header field value MUST be ignored.

Thank you for the suggestion, that affirmative statement really flows better.

>  
 
 ### Literal Header Field With Post-Base Name Reference
 
 If the name entry is in the dynamic table with an absolute index greater than or
-equal to the Base, the representation starts with the '0000' four-bit
-pattern. The fifth bit is the 'N' bit as described in
-{{literal-name-reference}}.  Finally, the header field name is represented using
-the post-base index of that entry (see {{post-base}}) encoded as an integer with
-a 3-bit prefix.
+equal to the Base, the representation starts with the '0000' four-bit pattern.
+The fifth bit is the 'N' bit as described in {{literal-name-reference}}.
+Finally, the header field name is represented using the post-base index of that
+entry (see {{post-base}}) encoded as an integer with a 3-bit prefix (see
+{{prefixed-integers}}).

Good catch.

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<p><b>@bencebeky</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<p>Thank you both for the great feedback!</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2941#discussion_r314397834">draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -821,10 +828,13 @@ connection error of type `HTTP_QPACK_DECODER_STREAM_ERROR`.
 
 ## Header Block Representations
 
-Header blocks contain compressed representations of header lists and are carried
-in frames on streams defined by the enclosing protocol.  These representations
-reference the static table, or dynamic table in a particular state without
-modifying it.
+A header block consists of a prefix and a possibly empty sequence of
+representations defined in this section.  Each representation corresponds to a
+single header field.  These representations can reference the static table, or
+the dynamic table in a particular state without modifying it.
</pre>
<p>How about "These representations reference the static table or the dynamic table in a particular state, but do not modify that state."?</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2941#discussion_r314400451">draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  The following bit, &#39;N&#39;, indicates whether an intermediary is permitted to add
 this header to the dynamic header table on subsequent hops. When the &#39;N&#39; bit is
-set, the encoded header MUST always be encoded with a literal representation. In
-particular, when a peer sends a header field that it received represented as a
</pre>
<p>I'd rather not find out whether people would actually mess this up.  Let me revert the removal of this sentence.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2941#discussion_r314401854">draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  used to locate the table entry for the header name.  When S=1, the number
 represents the static table index; when S=0, the number is the relative index of
-the entry in the dynamic table.
+the entry in the dynamic table.  Only the header field name stored in the static
+or dynamic table is used. Any header field value MUST be ignored.
</pre>
<p>Thank you for the suggestion, that affirmative statement really flows better.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2941#discussion_r314403565">draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  
 
 ### Literal Header Field With Post-Base Name Reference
 
 If the name entry is in the dynamic table with an absolute index greater than or
-equal to the Base, the representation starts with the &#39;0000&#39; four-bit
-pattern. The fifth bit is the &#39;N&#39; bit as described in
-{{literal-name-reference}}.  Finally, the header field name is represented using
-the post-base index of that entry (see {{post-base}}) encoded as an integer with
-a 3-bit prefix.
+equal to the Base, the representation starts with the &#39;0000&#39; four-bit pattern.
+The fifth bit is the &#39;N&#39; bit as described in {{literal-name-reference}}.
+Finally, the header field name is represented using the post-base index of that
+entry (see {{post-base}}) encoded as an integer with a 3-bit prefix (see
+{{prefixed-integers}}).
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I definitely agree that we should change this to require a change in response, it would be worth wordsmithing something that achieves this -- the PR is a good start. Differentiating by client/server might be interesting, although there appear to be two cases: 
1. A CID change on a link without any address change. 
2. A change in any part of address (IP/port)

We can talk about initiator/responder to migration rather than client/server and that might be a good approach (which is pretty close to what the PR does right now).

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<p>I definitely agree that we should change this to require a change in response, it would be worth wordsmithing something that achieves this -- the PR is a good start. Differentiating by client/server might be interesting, although there appear to be two cases:</p>
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<li>A CID change on a link without any address change.</li>
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<p>We can talk about initiator/responder to migration rather than client/server and that might be a good approach (which is pretty close to what the PR does right now).</p>

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On receiving duplicate QPACK streams, the error should be HTTP_STREAM_CREATION_ERROR which matches with control stream duplicates.
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  * Update QPACK stream creation error

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    M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md (2)

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<p>On receiving duplicate QPACK streams, the error should be HTTP_STREAM_CREATION_ERROR which matches with control stream duplicates.</p>

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  <li>Update QPACK stream creation error</li>
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LPardue approved this pull request.

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<p><b>@LPardue</b> approved this pull request.</p>

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I'd also add a CANCEL_PUSH from the client for a PUSH_ID that has not been promised.

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<p>I'd also add a CANCEL_PUSH from the client for a PUSH_ID that has not been promised.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/stateless-reset-too
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2019-08-16 (Fri, 16 Aug 2019)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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d2b6b85ae7472d7478bee0325b09b2ef8f9503fc  Not migration, just address change
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Rather than focus on migration, use address change, which is far more
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Also, rather than require that the connection ID be previously unused in
a global sense, scope it to those that are active.


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Confidentiality for server transport parameters


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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: 7491a2149ed7fa625b65d729e3fef5f857d10f4f
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7491a2149ed7fa625b65d729e3fef5f857d10f4f
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2019-06-27 (Thu, 27 Jun 2019)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  recommend resending of 0-RTT data after a Retry


  Commit: 9944148eee32164da4997b2d8d0f8f30cfccf48b
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9944148eee32164da4997b2d8d0f8f30cfccf48b
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2019-08-16 (Fri, 16 Aug 2019)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #2852 from marten-seemann/should-send-0rtt-after-retry

recommend resending of 0-RTT data after a Retry


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/a7f5dbd6c5a0...9944148eee32


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Merged #2852 into master.

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: 1585f08a705d1fca1b600e503d4f94355fceef5b
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1585f08a705d1fca1b600e503d4f94355fceef5b
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2019-06-25 (Tue, 25 Jun 2019)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  describe how 0-RTT is accepted and rejected


  Commit: de85a4b75d306acb66899838e2a2eca22e92200e
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/de85a4b75d306acb66899838e2a2eca22e92200e
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2019-06-25 (Tue, 25 Jun 2019)

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  Log Message:
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  s/with/without for rejecting 0-RTT


  Commit: 94cbd5aeea96f06b869c735cc13be51ddcd06d33
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/94cbd5aeea96f06b869c735cc13be51ddcd06d33
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2019-06-25 (Tue, 25 Jun 2019)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  error when 0-RTT is acked when 0-RTT is rejected


  Commit: 6facb9d770b99508871422b28c59911f06c66301
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6facb9d770b99508871422b28c59911f06c66301
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2019-06-25 (Tue, 25 Jun 2019)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  remove normative language for receiving 0-RTT packets


  Commit: c0b38a3c32745a5ee2fe643c21d1e34b51ab66eb
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c0b38a3c32745a5ee2fe643c21d1e34b51ab66eb
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2019-06-25 (Tue, 25 Jun 2019)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  add a paragraph describing how a client enables 0-RTT


  Commit: a6c47ee88ac7ca211a21779b24ab3cec6e5120f9
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a6c47ee88ac7ca211a21779b24ab3cec6e5120f9
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2019-06-25 (Tue, 25 Jun 2019)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  capitalize all words in section title


  Commit: 9440ab9a25a7c5254b526cdca15c38f98bf0abfc
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9440ab9a25a7c5254b526cdca15c38f98bf0abfc
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2019-06-25 (Tue, 25 Jun 2019)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  s/EarlyDataIndication/early_data extension/g


  Commit: 5fa9df2483be425134fd36c520303f80d6cb8f56
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5fa9df2483be425134fd36c520303f80d6cb8f56
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2019-06-25 (Tue, 25 Jun 2019)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  clients SHOULD detect ACKs for 0-RTT packets after 0-RTT rejection


  Commit: 6ec7024f9d6929f4a7b586d9732c7c87a06fa835
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6ec7024f9d6929f4a7b586d9732c7c87a06fa835
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2019-06-25 (Tue, 25 Jun 2019)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  a client sends 0-RTT packets, not early data


  Commit: c9386c4c207c09c4cf89e3141b2b5e4db72d65b5
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c9386c4c207c09c4cf89e3141b2b5e4db72d65b5
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2019-06-26 (Wed, 26 Jun 2019)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  *an* early_data extension


  Commit: 32a7bb0fbb5e0928d1c8433a05191b1f9b407f7a
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/32a7bb0fbb5e0928d1c8433a05191b1f9b407f7a
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2019-06-26 (Wed, 26 Jun 2019)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  rejecting 0-RTT means not generating 0-RTT keys


  Commit: 2ddaf6d39e2c08a4ec6128a87815bdfac2140d66
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2ddaf6d39e2c08a4ec6128a87815bdfac2140d66
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2019-06-26 (Wed, 26 Jun 2019)

  Changed paths:
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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  apply @kazuho's suggestions


  Commit: 0400ce1b3704fdfe5fbacf10179b0357afd02bbe
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0400ce1b3704fdfe5fbacf10179b0357afd02bbe
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2019-06-26 (Wed, 26 Jun 2019)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  early_data is sent in the EE, not the SH


  Commit: 607a9f44394882544e9ac2a600eb11bdf90e4335
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/607a9f44394882544e9ac2a600eb11bdf90e4335
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2019-06-26 (Wed, 26 Jun 2019)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  another fix for early_data being sent in EE, not SH


  Commit: 9c7fa1ab06c999a22c31194c0d2b10d38fd06de1
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9c7fa1ab06c999a22c31194c0d2b10d38fd06de1
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2019-06-26 (Wed, 26 Jun 2019)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  fix reference to RFC 8446


  Commit: 025b18e47b9c623b078197c90378422f6537de25
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/025b18e47b9c623b078197c90378422f6537de25
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2019-07-09 (Tue, 09 Jul 2019)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge branch 'master' into accept-and-reject-0-rtt


  Commit: 20f9e43b73513243da424e7d7c9a58d20f9433ee
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/20f9e43b73513243da424e7d7c9a58d20f9433ee
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2019-08-16 (Fri, 16 Aug 2019)

  Changed paths:
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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #2841 from marten-seemann/accept-and-reject-0-rtt

describe how 0-RTT is accepted and rejected


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/9944148eee32...20f9e43b7351


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Merged #2841 into master.

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  Fix language around CC on migration


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  likely too many uses of likely


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  Merge pull request #2918 from quicwg/more2685

Fix language around CC on migration


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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
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  Author: Eric Kinnear <ekinnear@apple.com>
  Date:   2019-07-12 (Fri, 12 Jul 2019)

  Changed paths:
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  Remove connection error response to a packets from a different source address when an endpoint has sent disable_migration, clarify an endpoints options when prohibited packets are received, rename disable_migration to disable_active_migration, and remove INVALID_MIGRATION error code.


  Commit: b1bd4ac46dbcb0081c8ba46d4250c1cdf38688f8
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  Log Message:
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  Rewrap long line


  Commit: 5a7293da9be6061ded0a277fe019a48235dff2d8
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  Reword per Ian's suggestion


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  Merge pull request #2893 from erickinnear/ek/disable_active_migration

Remove DoS vector for spoofed connection migration


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/cdc5e1d20927...6ff9d8cc29a0


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8459c511c038ee5accb3da3a178d1db02b871680  Merge branch 'master' into grease-transport-parameters


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  Branch: refs/heads/master
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  grease transport parameters


  Commit: e05433b08882927543175422fdfa95f2fcb7574c
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  add IANA considerations


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  fix example for reserved transport parameter code points


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  Merge branch 'master' into grease-transport-parameters


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  Merge pull request #2873 from marten-seemann/grease-transport-parameters

grease transport parameters


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Merged #2873 into master.

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  Articulate error code principles

This just writes down what was proposed in #2388.

Closes #2388.


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  Merge pull request #2880 from quicwg/error-handling-principles

Articulate error code principles


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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: 813bc308b8d97077cbf1cb86e96dc459b2e4b416
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/813bc308b8d97077cbf1cb86e96dc459b2e4b416
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2019-07-09 (Tue, 09 Jul 2019)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Remove spin coordination requirement

As discussed, this is a) hard to do in all cases, b) impossible to do in
many, and c) not that useful.

Closes #2751.


  Commit: dd54111645f2f57885eae967fb899ece2dc01708
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/dd54111645f2f57885eae967fb899ece2dc01708
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2019-08-16 (Fri, 16 Aug 2019)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #2882 from quicwg/dont-coordinate-spin

Remove spin coordination requirement


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/928cf5c45e2c...dd54111645f2


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> @@ -924,11 +924,19 @@ selected by the client, both to ensure correct routing toward the client and to
 allow the client to validate that the packet is in response to an Initial
 packet.
 
-A zero-length connection ID MAY be used when the connection ID is not needed for
-routing and the address/port tuple of packets is sufficient to identify a
-connection. An endpoint whose peer has selected a zero-length connection ID MUST
-continue to use a zero-length connection ID for the lifetime of the connection
-and MUST NOT send packets from any other local address.
+A zero-length connection ID can be used when a connection ID is not needed
+to route to the correct endpoint. An endpoint SHOULD NOT use a zero-length
+connection ID unless it can use only its IP address and port to identify a

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2851#discussion_r314557345">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -924,11 +924,19 @@ selected by the client, both to ensure correct routing toward the client and to
 allow the client to validate that the packet is in response to an Initial
 packet.
 
-A zero-length connection ID MAY be used when the connection ID is not needed for
-routing and the address/port tuple of packets is sufficient to identify a
-connection. An endpoint whose peer has selected a zero-length connection ID MUST
-continue to use a zero-length connection ID for the lifetime of the connection
-and MUST NOT send packets from any other local address.
+A zero-length connection ID can be used when a connection ID is not needed
+to route to the correct endpoint. An endpoint SHOULD NOT use a zero-length
+connection ID unless it can use only its IP address and port to identify a
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> @@ -924,11 +924,19 @@ selected by the client, both to ensure correct routing toward the client and to
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+A zero-length connection ID can be used when a connection ID is not needed
+to route to the correct endpoint. An endpoint SHOULD NOT use a zero-length
+connection ID unless it can use only its IP address and port to identify a
+connection. The IP address and port used by a peer cannot be used for routing

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2851#discussion_r314557395">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -924,11 +924,19 @@ selected by the client, both to ensure correct routing toward the client and to
 allow the client to validate that the packet is in response to an Initial
 packet.
 
-A zero-length connection ID MAY be used when the connection ID is not needed for
-routing and the address/port tuple of packets is sufficient to identify a
-connection. An endpoint whose peer has selected a zero-length connection ID MUST
-continue to use a zero-length connection ID for the lifetime of the connection
-and MUST NOT send packets from any other local address.
+A zero-length connection ID can be used when a connection ID is not needed
+to route to the correct endpoint. An endpoint SHOULD NOT use a zero-length
+connection ID unless it can use only its IP address and port to identify a
+connection. The IP address and port used by a peer cannot be used for routing
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> @@ -924,11 +924,19 @@ selected by the client, both to ensure correct routing toward the client and to
 allow the client to validate that the packet is in response to an Initial
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-A zero-length connection ID MAY be used when the connection ID is not needed for
-routing and the address/port tuple of packets is sufficient to identify a
-connection. An endpoint whose peer has selected a zero-length connection ID MUST
-continue to use a zero-length connection ID for the lifetime of the connection
-and MUST NOT send packets from any other local address.
+A zero-length connection ID can be used when a connection ID is not needed
+to route to the correct endpoint. An endpoint SHOULD NOT use a zero-length
+connection ID unless it can use only its IP address and port to identify a
+connection. The IP address and port used by a peer cannot be used for routing
+or connection identification as these values can change during a connection's
+lifetime, and the peer can reuse a given address and port for additional
+connections. Similarly, the peer's connection IDs cannot be used for routing
+or identification, as they are not transmitted in the short header packets
+they send. Note that multiplexing while using zero-length connection IDs and

Swapped that around to remove the redundancy

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2851#discussion_r314557423">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -924,11 +924,19 @@ selected by the client, both to ensure correct routing toward the client and to
 allow the client to validate that the packet is in response to an Initial
 packet.
 
-A zero-length connection ID MAY be used when the connection ID is not needed for
-routing and the address/port tuple of packets is sufficient to identify a
-connection. An endpoint whose peer has selected a zero-length connection ID MUST
-continue to use a zero-length connection ID for the lifetime of the connection
-and MUST NOT send packets from any other local address.
+A zero-length connection ID can be used when a connection ID is not needed
+to route to the correct endpoint. An endpoint SHOULD NOT use a zero-length
+connection ID unless it can use only its IP address and port to identify a
+connection. The IP address and port used by a peer cannot be used for routing
+or connection identification as these values can change during a connection&#39;s
+lifetime, and the peer can reuse a given address and port for additional
+connections. Similarly, the peer&#39;s connection IDs cannot be used for routing
+or identification, as they are not transmitted in the short header packets
+they send. Note that multiplexing while using zero-length connection IDs and
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DavidSchinazi commented on this pull request.



> -connection. An endpoint whose peer has selected a zero-length connection ID MUST
-continue to use a zero-length connection ID for the lifetime of the connection
-and MUST NOT send packets from any other local address.
+A zero-length connection ID can be used when a connection ID is not needed
+to route to the correct endpoint. An endpoint SHOULD NOT use a zero-length
+connection ID unless it can use only its IP address and port to identify a
+connection. The IP address and port used by a peer cannot be used for routing
+or connection identification as these values can change during a connection's
+lifetime, and the peer can reuse a given address and port for additional
+connections. Similarly, the peer's connection IDs cannot be used for routing
+or identification, as they are not transmitted in the short header packets
+they send. Note that multiplexing while using zero-length connection IDs and
+relying on the four-tuple of IP addresses and ports for routing will cause
+failures in the presence of connection migration, NAT rebinding, and client
+port reuse; and therefore MUST NOT be done unless an endpoint is certain that
+those protocol features are not in use.

Removed the redundancy

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2851#discussion_r314557461">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; -connection. An endpoint whose peer has selected a zero-length connection ID MUST
-continue to use a zero-length connection ID for the lifetime of the connection
-and MUST NOT send packets from any other local address.
+A zero-length connection ID can be used when a connection ID is not needed
+to route to the correct endpoint. An endpoint SHOULD NOT use a zero-length
+connection ID unless it can use only its IP address and port to identify a
+connection. The IP address and port used by a peer cannot be used for routing
+or connection identification as these values can change during a connection&#39;s
+lifetime, and the peer can reuse a given address and port for additional
+connections. Similarly, the peer&#39;s connection IDs cannot be used for routing
+or identification, as they are not transmitted in the short header packets
+they send. Note that multiplexing while using zero-length connection IDs and
+relying on the four-tuple of IP addresses and ports for routing will cause
+failures in the presence of connection migration, NAT rebinding, and client
+port reuse; and therefore MUST NOT be done unless an endpoint is certain that
+those protocol features are not in use.
</pre>
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> @@ -924,11 +924,12 @@ selected by the client, both to ensure correct routing toward the client and to
 allow the client to validate that the packet is in response to an Initial
 packet.
 
-A zero-length connection ID MAY be used when the connection ID is not needed for
-routing and the address/port tuple of packets is sufficient to identify a
-connection. An endpoint whose peer has selected a zero-length connection ID MUST
-continue to use a zero-length connection ID for the lifetime of the connection
-and MUST NOT send packets from any other local address.
+A zero-length connection ID can be used when a connection ID is not needed
+to route to the correct endpoint. However, multiplexing connections on the same
+local IP address and port while using zero-length connection IDs will cause
+failures in the presence of connection migration, NAT rebinding, and client port
+reuse; and therefore MUST NOT be done unless an endpoint is certain that those
+protocol features are not in use.

If I were to add commentary here, I would say "While this usage model appears to be substantially similar to common TCP connection idioms, the realities of UDP deployment mean that relying on peer addressing information for identifying connections can be significantly less reliable in UDP than TCP."

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<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2851#discussion_r314566620">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -924,11 +924,12 @@ selected by the client, both to ensure correct routing toward the client and to
 allow the client to validate that the packet is in response to an Initial
 packet.
 
-A zero-length connection ID MAY be used when the connection ID is not needed for
-routing and the address/port tuple of packets is sufficient to identify a
-connection. An endpoint whose peer has selected a zero-length connection ID MUST
-continue to use a zero-length connection ID for the lifetime of the connection
-and MUST NOT send packets from any other local address.
+A zero-length connection ID can be used when a connection ID is not needed
+to route to the correct endpoint. However, multiplexing connections on the same
+local IP address and port while using zero-length connection IDs will cause
+failures in the presence of connection migration, NAT rebinding, and client port
+reuse; and therefore MUST NOT be done unless an endpoint is certain that those
+protocol features are not in use.
</pre>
<p>If I were to add commentary here, I would say "While this usage model appears to be substantially similar to common TCP connection idioms, the realities of UDP deployment mean that relying on peer addressing information for identifying connections can be significantly less reliable in UDP than TCP."</p>

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martinthomson commented on this pull request.



> @@ -924,11 +924,12 @@ selected by the client, both to ensure correct routing toward the client and to
 allow the client to validate that the packet is in response to an Initial
 packet.
 
-A zero-length connection ID MAY be used when the connection ID is not needed for
-routing and the address/port tuple of packets is sufficient to identify a
-connection. An endpoint whose peer has selected a zero-length connection ID MUST
-continue to use a zero-length connection ID for the lifetime of the connection
-and MUST NOT send packets from any other local address.
+A zero-length connection ID can be used when a connection ID is not needed
+to route to the correct endpoint. However, multiplexing connections on the same
+local IP address and port while using zero-length connection IDs will cause
+failures in the presence of connection migration, NAT rebinding, and client port
+reuse; and therefore MUST NOT be done unless an endpoint is certain that those
+protocol features are not in use.

(Replying self, bad look, sorry.) Is this (^^) something that the applicability draft might want to say? @mirjak, @britram, WDYT?

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<p><b>@martinthomson</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2851#discussion_r314566754">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -924,11 +924,12 @@ selected by the client, both to ensure correct routing toward the client and to
 allow the client to validate that the packet is in response to an Initial
 packet.
 
-A zero-length connection ID MAY be used when the connection ID is not needed for
-routing and the address/port tuple of packets is sufficient to identify a
-connection. An endpoint whose peer has selected a zero-length connection ID MUST
-continue to use a zero-length connection ID for the lifetime of the connection
-and MUST NOT send packets from any other local address.
+A zero-length connection ID can be used when a connection ID is not needed
+to route to the correct endpoint. However, multiplexing connections on the same
+local IP address and port while using zero-length connection IDs will cause
+failures in the presence of connection migration, NAT rebinding, and client port
+reuse; and therefore MUST NOT be done unless an endpoint is certain that those
+protocol features are not in use.
</pre>
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
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  Changed paths:
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You know, I think that I put some proposed fixes for this in c016639e39c with rather than this branch.  Moved it over here.  @marten-seemann, you approved #2962, so I hope that moving that commit over here works for you.

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@martinthomson pushed 1 commit.

5e388ac7dc9726e2ec60303eafd63d97f682255d  Merge branch 'master' into zerocid


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<p><a href="https://github.com/martinthomson" class="user-mention">@martinthomson</a> pushed 1 commit.</p>

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I rebased this.  There was a conflict that might be worth checking: @erickinnear rewrote the `disable_[active_]migration` bit.  Where this removed text forbidding migration with a zero-length connection ID, that text no longer appeared.

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<p>I rebased this.  There was a conflict that might be worth checking: <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/hovercards?user_id=32474881" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/erickinnear">@erickinnear</a> rewrote the <code>disable_[active_]migration</code> bit.  Where this removed text forbidding migration with a zero-length connection ID, that text no longer appeared.</p>

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In draft-ietf-quic-http-22

> A sender can close or reset a unidirectional stream unless otherwise
   specified.  A receiver MUST tolerate unidirectional streams being
   closed or reset prior to the reception of the unidirectional stream
   header.

Is there a difference between closing a stream and resetting a stream?
According to my understanding, the only way here for the peer to end a stream is by sending a RESET_STREAM frame. Sure it can lalso end the stream by closing the connection, but obviously it's not what the text means.
Maybe the difference between these two terms needs to be clarified, if there is any.

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<p>In draft-ietf-quic-http-22</p>
<blockquote>
<p>A sender can close or reset a unidirectional stream unless otherwise<br>
specified.  A receiver MUST tolerate unidirectional streams being<br>
closed or reset prior to the reception of the unidirectional stream<br>
header.</p>
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<p>Is there a difference between closing a stream and resetting a stream?<br>
According to my understanding, the only way here for the peer to end a stream is by sending a RESET_STREAM frame. Sure it can lalso end the stream by closing the connection, but obviously it's not what the text means.<br>
Maybe the difference between these two terms needs to be clarified, if there is any.</p>

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In this case, the peer could close the stream with a FIN.

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<p>In this case, the peer could close the stream with a FIN.</p>

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Thank you for your reply. I forgot FIN. So the peer can send a QUIC STERAM frame, whose Stream Data field has a length of 0 to close the stream. Thanks again.

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<p>Thank you for your reply. I forgot FIN. So the peer can send a QUIC STERAM frame, whose Stream Data field has a length of 0 to close the stream. Thanks again.</p>

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> @@ -924,11 +924,12 @@ selected by the client, both to ensure correct routing toward the client and to
 allow the client to validate that the packet is in response to an Initial
 packet.
 
-A zero-length connection ID MAY be used when the connection ID is not needed for
-routing and the address/port tuple of packets is sufficient to identify a
-connection. An endpoint whose peer has selected a zero-length connection ID MUST
-continue to use a zero-length connection ID for the lifetime of the connection
-and MUST NOT send packets from any other local address.
+A zero-length connection ID can be used when a connection ID is not needed
+to route to the correct endpoint. However, multiplexing connections on the same
+local IP address and port while using zero-length connection IDs will cause
+failures in the presence of connection migration, NAT rebinding, and client port
+reuse; and therefore MUST NOT be done unless an endpoint is certain that those
+protocol features are not in use.

Both sound good to me, I agree that this is a good point to make, and the applicability draft sounds like a good home

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2851#discussion_r314811588">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -924,11 +924,12 @@ selected by the client, both to ensure correct routing toward the client and to
 allow the client to validate that the packet is in response to an Initial
 packet.
 
-A zero-length connection ID MAY be used when the connection ID is not needed for
-routing and the address/port tuple of packets is sufficient to identify a
-connection. An endpoint whose peer has selected a zero-length connection ID MUST
-continue to use a zero-length connection ID for the lifetime of the connection
-and MUST NOT send packets from any other local address.
+A zero-length connection ID can be used when a connection ID is not needed
+to route to the correct endpoint. However, multiplexing connections on the same
+local IP address and port while using zero-length connection IDs will cause
+failures in the presence of connection migration, NAT rebinding, and client port
+reuse; and therefore MUST NOT be done unless an endpoint is certain that those
+protocol features are not in use.
</pre>
<p>Both sound good to me, I agree that this is a good point to make, and the applicability draft sounds like a good home</p>

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Thanks for the rebase @martinthomson 

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<p>Thanks for the rebase <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/hovercards?user_id=67641" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/martinthomson">@martinthomson</a></p>

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Good point.

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<p>Good point.</p>

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Good question.  From a purely transactional point of view, if no part of the response depends on the remainder of the request, the client might as well stop sending.  However, I can also imagine an API where the server wants to consume and store the remainder of what the client is sending even if the return value is determined already.

The most generic way to handle this is to say that the server can express that it doesn't need the remainder of the response, and if it doesn't do so, the client SHOULD finish sending it.

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<p>Good question.  From a purely transactional point of view, if no part of the response depends on the remainder of the request, the client might as well stop sending.  However, I can also imagine an API where the server wants to consume and store the remainder of what the client is sending even if the return value is determined already.</p>
<p>The most generic way to handle this is to say that the server can express that it doesn't need the remainder of the response, and if it doesn't do so, the client SHOULD finish sending it.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/http/complete-settings
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  Date:   2019-08-16 (Fri, 16 Aug 2019)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md

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  SETTINGS must be complete


  Commit: b275e4e96ff0ac6079f44f7a5c43dfcdf2b3a2fb
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This is an alternative to #2958 that sticks closer to the current design / the pattern of HTTP/2.

It tightens constraints around SETTINGS in a couple of ways:
- Servers are now required to send complete SETTINGS frames -- they can still omit settings which match the default, but not settings which match the session being resumed.
- What happens if either side is uncertain which settings apply to a ticket?  Clients assume defaults; servers MUST NOT accept early data (though they could still accept a resumption).

Fixes #2790; fixes #2945; closes #2958.
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-- Commit Summary --

  * SETTINGS must be complete
  * I do not recall.

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    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (15)

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<p>This is an alternative to <a class=3D"issue-link js-issue-link" data-e=
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ssion-text=3D"Issue title is private" data-url=3D"https://github.com/quic=
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<p>It tightens constraints around SETTINGS in a couple of ways:</p>
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<li>Servers are now required to send complete SETTINGS frames -- they can=
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h the session being resumed.</li>
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h they could still accept a resumption).</li>
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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>SETTINGS must be complete</li>
  <li>I do not recall.</li>
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<p>I believe we are now closing v2 issues for sanitation reasons, and revisiting them post-recharter.</p>

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Closed #2227.

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The cited HTTP/2 sections mention malformed requests and response, so we probably also want to add some text to the H3 spec that links to it's section 4.1.3 on how to deal with these.

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<p>The cited HTTP/2 sections mention malformed requests and response, so we probably also want to add some text to the H3 spec that links to it's section 4.1.3 on how to deal with these.</p>

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Fixes #2439 in what I believe is the simplest way possible -- point to 8164 and require that `http-opportunistic` be successfully retrieved prior to sending any scheme other than `https`.
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  * Require 8164 validation for non-https origins

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    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (4)

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<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #2439.">Fixes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="408218731" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2439" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2439/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2439">#2439</a> in what I believe is the simplest way possible -- point to 8164 and require that <code>http-opportunistic</code> be successfully retrieved prior to sending any scheme other than <code>https</code>.</p>

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Fixes #2442.
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-- Commit Summary --

  * IANA defaults
  * Defaults in QPACK IANA

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    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (24)
    M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md (12)

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<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #2442.">Fixes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="408328703" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2442" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2442/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2442">#2442</a>.</p>

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  <li>IANA defaults</li>
  <li>Defaults in QPACK IANA</li>
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>  server's SETTINGS frame has arrived.  This removes the need for a client to wait
 for the SETTINGS frame before sending requests.
 
 A server can remember the settings that it advertised, or store an
 integrity-protected copy of the values in the ticket and recover the information
 when accepting 0-RTT data. A server uses the HTTP/3 settings values in
-determining whether to accept 0-RTT data.
+determining whether to accept 0-RTT data.  If the server cannot recover the
+settings from a session being resumed, it MUST NOT accept 0-RTT data.

by my reading, the paragraph describes to methods: remember or recover. This new clause seems to imply if you can't recover, then remember is not allowed.

Is it more aligned with the intent to say that when a server chooses the recover method, and encodes the data in a ticket, and a client presents a ticket, then the server MUST recover the settings or else reject 0-RTT?

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<p><b>@LPardue</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2972#discussion_r314829874">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  server&#39;s SETTINGS frame has arrived.  This removes the need for a client to wait
 for the SETTINGS frame before sending requests.
 
 A server can remember the settings that it advertised, or store an
 integrity-protected copy of the values in the ticket and recover the information
 when accepting 0-RTT data. A server uses the HTTP/3 settings values in
-determining whether to accept 0-RTT data.
+determining whether to accept 0-RTT data.  If the server cannot recover the
+settings from a session being resumed, it MUST NOT accept 0-RTT data.
</pre>
<p>by my reading, the paragraph describes to methods: remember or recover. This new clause seems to imply if you can't recover, then remember is not allowed.</p>
<p>Is it more aligned with the intent to say that when a server chooses the recover method, and encodes the data in a ticket, and a client presents a ticket, then the server MUST recover the settings or else reject 0-RTT?</p>

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Fixes #2444.

The initial request was simply to add sub-headings.  I still feel like Security Considerations is a bit of a hodge-podge, and would welcome concrete suggestions or PRs for tightening it up.
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-- Commit Summary --

  * Add headings to Security Considerations

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (20)

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<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #2444.">Fixes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="408369428" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2444" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2444/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2444">#2444</a>.</p>
<p>The initial request was simply to add sub-headings.  I still feel like Security Considerations is a bit of a hodge-podge, and would welcome concrete suggestions or PRs for tightening it up.</p>

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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2975'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2975</a></p>

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  <li>Add headings to Security Considerations</li>
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    <strong>M</strong>
    <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2975/files#diff-0">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>
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LPardue requested changes on this pull request.

Thanks for the change. It's interesting that you chose the column header "Default" while RFC 7540 uses "Initial Value". 

Amusingly, I had a recent discussion on such terminology when trying to craft a new HTTP/2 setting. My preference in that discussion was to use the term initial value because of alignment with the spec. 

> -| ---------------------------- | :----: | ------------------------- |
-| Reserved                     |  0x2   | N/A                       |
-| Reserved                     |  0x3   | N/A                       |
-| Reserved                     |  0x4   | N/A                       |
-| Reserved                     |  0x5   | N/A                       |
-| MAX_HEADER_LIST_SIZE         |  0x6   | {{settings-parameters}}   |
-| NUM_PLACEHOLDERS             |  0x9   | {{settings-parameters}}   |
-| ---------------------------- | ------ | ------------------------- |
+| ---------------------------- | ------ | ------------------------- | ------- |
+| Setting Name                 |  Code  | Specification             | Default |
+| ---------------------------- | :----: | ------------------------- | ------- |
+| Reserved                     |  0x2   | N/A                       | N/A     |
+| Reserved                     |  0x3   | N/A                       | N/A     |
+| Reserved                     |  0x4   | N/A                       | N/A     |
+| Reserved                     |  0x5   | N/A                       | N/A     |
+| MAX_HEADER_LIST_SIZE         |  0x6   | {{settings-parameters}}   | 0       |

This is value is defined elsewhere to be unlimited, RFC 7540 used (infinite) but I'm not fussy.

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<p><b>@LPardue</b> requested changes on this pull request.</p>

<p>Thanks for the change. It's interesting that you chose the column header "Default" while RFC 7540 uses "Initial Value".</p>
<p>Amusingly, I had a recent discussion on such terminology when trying to craft a new HTTP/2 setting. My preference in that discussion was to use the term initial value because of alignment with the spec.</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2974#discussion_r314831792">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; -| ---------------------------- | :----: | ------------------------- |
-| Reserved                     |  0x2   | N/A                       |
-| Reserved                     |  0x3   | N/A                       |
-| Reserved                     |  0x4   | N/A                       |
-| Reserved                     |  0x5   | N/A                       |
-| MAX_HEADER_LIST_SIZE         |  0x6   | {{settings-parameters}}   |
-| NUM_PLACEHOLDERS             |  0x9   | {{settings-parameters}}   |
-| ---------------------------- | ------ | ------------------------- |
+| ---------------------------- | ------ | ------------------------- | ------- |
+| Setting Name                 |  Code  | Specification             | Default |
+| ---------------------------- | :----: | ------------------------- | ------- |
+| Reserved                     |  0x2   | N/A                       | N/A     |
+| Reserved                     |  0x3   | N/A                       | N/A     |
+| Reserved                     |  0x4   | N/A                       | N/A     |
+| Reserved                     |  0x5   | N/A                       | N/A     |
+| MAX_HEADER_LIST_SIZE         |  0x6   | {{settings-parameters}}   | 0       |
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<p>This is value is defined elsewhere to be unlimited, RFC 7540 used (infinite) but I'm not fussy.</p>

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A few nitpicks, but these are all good improvements.  Thanks.

>  table entries which have been acknowledged, but this could mean using
 literals. Since literals make the header block larger, this can result in the
 encoder becoming blocked on congestion or flow control limits.
 
 ### Known Received Count
 
-In order to identify which dynamic table entries can be safely used without a
-stream becoming blocked, the encoder tracks the number of entries received by
-the decoder.  The Known Received Count tracks the total number of acknowledged
-insertions.
+The Known Received Count is the total number of dynamic table insertions and
+duplications acknowledged by the decoder.  The encoder tracks the Known Received
+Count in order to identify which dynamic table entries can be references without

```suggestion
Count in order to identify which dynamic table entries can be referenced without
```

> @@ -445,19 +443,23 @@ encoder sends a Set Dynamic Table Capacity instruction
 ({{set-dynamic-capacity}}) with a non-zero capacity to begin using the dynamic
 table.
 
-Before a new entry is added to the dynamic table, entries are evicted from the

Well, if you're running close to the table's maximum size, presumably that's an indicator that the other side doesn't ever want the table larger than that, which implies evict-then-add.  However, this is also a holdover from HPACK where adding something larger than the max table size evicted everything, then left you with an empty table when the add failed.  Since that's now a hard error, I'm comfortable framing this as purely implementation choice.

> @@ -445,19 +443,23 @@ encoder sends a Set Dynamic Table Capacity instruction
 ({{set-dynamic-capacity}}) with a non-zero capacity to begin using the dynamic
 table.
 
-Before a new entry is added to the dynamic table, entries are evicted from the
-end of the dynamic table until the size of the dynamic table is less than or
-equal to (table capacity - size of new entry). The encoder MUST NOT evict a
-blocking dynamic table entry (see {{blocked-insertion}}).  The entry is then
-added to the table.  It is an error if the encoder attempts to add an entry that
-is larger than the dynamic table capacity; the decoder MUST treat this as a
+When a new entry is added to the dynamic table, the minimum number of entries
+are evicted from the end of the dynamic table so that the final table size
+including the new entry does not exceed the table capacity.  This can be
+achieved by adding the new entry and then removing entries from the end until
+the table size is less than or equal to the table capacity.  Another option is
+to first evict entries until the size of the dynamic table is less than or equal
+to (table capacity - size of new entry), then add the new entry.  Note that a
+new entry can reference an entry in the dynamic table that will be evicted when
+adding this new entry.  Therefore implementations utilizing the latter option

```suggestion
adding this new entry.  Therefore, implementations utilizing the latter option
```

> @@ -477,28 +479,27 @@ it can choose to use a lower dynamic table capacity (see
 
 For clients using 0-RTT data in HTTP/3, the server's maximum table capacity is
 the remembered value of the setting, or zero if the value was not previously
-sent.  When the client's 0-RTT value of the SETTING is 0, the server MAY set it

The usual rule is to write out numbers less than ten.  However, I'm okay either way when we're talking about the literal value of something.  I defer to @afrind's style preferences.

>  
-An endpoint MUST allow its peer to create both encoder and decoder streams

Would "an encoder stream and a decoder stream" make this clearer?

> @@ -830,10 +831,8 @@ modifying it.
 
 Each header block is prefixed with two integers.  The Required Insert Count is
 encoded as an integer with an 8-bit prefix after the encoding described in
-{{ric}}).  The Base is encoded as sign-and-modulus integer, using a single sign
-bit and a value with a 7-bit prefix (see {{base}}).
-
-These two values are followed by representations for compressed headers.
+{{ric}}).  The Base is encoded as a sign bit, and a Delta Base value with a

```suggestion
{{ric}}).  The Base is encoded as a sign bit and a Delta Base value with a
```
Comma makes it looks like Delta Base follows the sign-bit-encoded Base.

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MikeBishop approved this pull request.

Minor typos, but I think this is worth mentioning in the TLS draft.

> @@ -629,6 +632,24 @@ A client MAY attempt to send 0-RTT again if it receives a Retry or Version
 Negotiation packet.  These packets do not signify rejection of 0-RTT.
 
 
+## Validating saved 0-RTT state
+
+When a server receives a ClientHello with the "early_data" extension, it has to
+decide whether to accept or rejct early data from the client. Some of this
+decision is made by the TLS stack (e.g. checking that the cipher suite being
+resumed was included in the ClientHello, see Section 4.2.10 of {{!TLS13}}). QUIC
+saves additional transport and application state in a 0-RTT session ticket, and
+imposes additional restrictions on when a server may accept early data. The TLS
+stack needs to check with the QUIC stack whether this saved state is valid for
+accepting early data.
+
+One example of such state that the QUIC stack checks when deciding whether or
+not to accept early data is the transport parameters extension. When HTTP/3
+({{QUIC-HTTP}}) is used at the application layer, the SETTINGS frame from the

Because the QUIC-* drafts get published at the same time, the references between them are more manual than the others.  Therefore, they get explicitly listed as a normative/informative dependency and the inline status isn't needed.

> @@ -629,6 +632,24 @@ A client MAY attempt to send 0-RTT again if it receives a Retry or Version
 Negotiation packet.  These packets do not signify rejection of 0-RTT.
 
 
+## Validating saved 0-RTT state
+
+When a server receives a ClientHello with the "early_data" extension, it has to
+decide whether to accept or rejct early data from the client. Some of this

```suggestion
decide whether to accept or reject early data from the client. Some of this
```

> @@ -629,6 +632,24 @@ A client MAY attempt to send 0-RTT again if it receives a Retry or Version
 Negotiation packet.  These packets do not signify rejection of 0-RTT.
 
 
+## Validating saved 0-RTT state
+
+When a server receives a ClientHello with the "early_data" extension, it has to
+decide whether to accept or rejct early data from the client. Some of this
+decision is made by the TLS stack (e.g. checking that the cipher suite being
+resumed was included in the ClientHello, see Section 4.2.10 of {{!TLS13}}). QUIC

```suggestion
resumed was included in the ClientHello; see Section 4.2.10 of {{!TLS13}}). QUIC
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I agree that this would be an improvement, but I'm not sure the benefit is significant.

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<p>I agree that this would be an improvement, but I'm not sure the benefit is significant.</p>

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ianswett commented on this pull request.



> -| ---------------------------- | :----: | ------------------------- |
-| Reserved                     |  0x2   | N/A                       |
-| Reserved                     |  0x3   | N/A                       |
-| Reserved                     |  0x4   | N/A                       |
-| Reserved                     |  0x5   | N/A                       |
-| MAX_HEADER_LIST_SIZE         |  0x6   | {{settings-parameters}}   |
-| NUM_PLACEHOLDERS             |  0x9   | {{settings-parameters}}   |
-| ---------------------------- | ------ | ------------------------- |
+| ---------------------------- | ------ | ------------------------- | ------- |
+| Setting Name                 |  Code  | Specification             | Default |
+| ---------------------------- | :----: | ------------------------- | ------- |
+| Reserved                     |  0x2   | N/A                       | N/A     |
+| Reserved                     |  0x3   | N/A                       | N/A     |
+| Reserved                     |  0x4   | N/A                       | N/A     |
+| Reserved                     |  0x5   | N/A                       | N/A     |
+| MAX_HEADER_LIST_SIZE         |  0x6   | {{settings-parameters}}   | 0       |

If you want to make SETTINGS REALLY required, making this default to 0 would certainly do it :)

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<p><b>@ianswett</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2974#discussion_r314858344">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; -| ---------------------------- | :----: | ------------------------- |
-| Reserved                     |  0x2   | N/A                       |
-| Reserved                     |  0x3   | N/A                       |
-| Reserved                     |  0x4   | N/A                       |
-| Reserved                     |  0x5   | N/A                       |
-| MAX_HEADER_LIST_SIZE         |  0x6   | {{settings-parameters}}   |
-| NUM_PLACEHOLDERS             |  0x9   | {{settings-parameters}}   |
-| ---------------------------- | ------ | ------------------------- |
+| ---------------------------- | ------ | ------------------------- | ------- |
+| Setting Name                 |  Code  | Specification             | Default |
+| ---------------------------- | :----: | ------------------------- | ------- |
+| Reserved                     |  0x2   | N/A                       | N/A     |
+| Reserved                     |  0x3   | N/A                       | N/A     |
+| Reserved                     |  0x4   | N/A                       | N/A     |
+| Reserved                     |  0x5   | N/A                       | N/A     |
+| MAX_HEADER_LIST_SIZE         |  0x6   | {{settings-parameters}}   | 0       |
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<p>If you want to make SETTINGS REALLY required, making this default to 0 would certainly do it :)</p>

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Rebase looks good to me too, thanks @martinthomson!

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<p>Rebase looks good to me too, thanks <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/hovercards?user_id=67641" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/martinthomson">@martinthomson</a>!</p>

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> @@ -954,11 +954,12 @@ selected by the client, both to ensure correct routing toward the client and to
 allow the client to validate that the packet is in response to an Initial
 packet.
 
-A zero-length connection ID MAY be used when the connection ID is not needed for
-routing and the address/port tuple of packets is sufficient to identify a
-connection. An endpoint whose peer has selected a zero-length connection ID MUST
-continue to use a zero-length connection ID for the lifetime of the connection
-and MUST NOT send packets from any other local address.
+A zero-length connection ID can be used when a connection ID is not needed
+to route to the correct endpoint. However, multiplexing connections on the same
+local IP address and port while using zero-length connection IDs will cause
+failures in the presence of connection migration, NAT rebinding, and client port

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Fixes #2951 
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  * State network byte order here, too

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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (1)

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<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #2951.">Fixes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="476043145" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2951" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2951/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2951">#2951</a></p>

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See https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md#late-stage-process.  Since this one was resolved by a PR that was already consensus-called and merged, it basically just needs the confirmation that everyone agrees this is addressed.

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@martinthomson, does that mean you're advocating for this to be a design issue again?

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b13e382ca1df40e5ca5ae24268b809d178e5e763  Apply suggestions from code review


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> @@ -1396,22 +1396,25 @@ servers, the initial value of each client setting is the default value.
 For clients using a 1-RTT QUIC connection, the initial value of each server
 setting is the default value. When a 0-RTT QUIC connection is being used, the
 initial value of each server setting is the value used in the previous session.
-Clients MUST store the settings the server provided in the session being resumed
-and MUST comply with stored settings until the current server settings are
-received.  A client can use these initial values to send requests before the
+Clients SHOULD store the settings the server provided in the session being
+resumed and MUST comply with stored settings until the current server settings

I might be confused, but how can you have `MUST comply with stored` if storing is a `SHOULD`?

>  server's SETTINGS frame has arrived.  This removes the need for a client to wait
 for the SETTINGS frame before sending requests.
 
 A server can remember the settings that it advertised, or store an
 integrity-protected copy of the values in the ticket and recover the information
 when accepting 0-RTT data. A server uses the HTTP/3 settings values in
-determining whether to accept 0-RTT data.
+determining whether to accept 0-RTT data.  If the server cannot recover the

Can we elaborate on what `recover` means? Does assuming the defaults count as `recover`? Also, how can the server recover them if it doesn't know if the client stored them or not?

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2972#discussion_r314876042">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1396,22 +1396,25 @@ servers, the initial value of each client setting is the default value.
 For clients using a 1-RTT QUIC connection, the initial value of each server
 setting is the default value. When a 0-RTT QUIC connection is being used, the
 initial value of each server setting is the value used in the previous session.
-Clients MUST store the settings the server provided in the session being resumed
-and MUST comply with stored settings until the current server settings are
-received.  A client can use these initial values to send requests before the
+Clients SHOULD store the settings the server provided in the session being
+resumed and MUST comply with stored settings until the current server settings
</pre>
<p>I might be confused, but how can you have <code>MUST comply with stored</code> if storing is a <code>SHOULD</code>?</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2972#discussion_r314876211">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  server&#39;s SETTINGS frame has arrived.  This removes the need for a client to wait
 for the SETTINGS frame before sending requests.
 
 A server can remember the settings that it advertised, or store an
 integrity-protected copy of the values in the ticket and recover the information
 when accepting 0-RTT data. A server uses the HTTP/3 settings values in
-determining whether to accept 0-RTT data.
+determining whether to accept 0-RTT data.  If the server cannot recover the
</pre>
<p>Can we elaborate on what <code>recover</code> means? Does assuming the defaults count as <code>recover</code>? Also, how can the server recover them if it doesn't know if the client stored them or not?</p>

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5f8281ab7c55a74e2bc0fdf9f2d1fdd4d9fbda1a  Specify peer connection migration


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It's great to see the change that the server MUST send all settings that differ from defaults instead of just those that differ from the implied settings for early data.

I'm a bit concerned that this says effectively says that it's optional (not RFC 2119 word) for clients to remember SETTINGS when sending early data, because now a server can't assume that a client is using the remembered SETTINGS in early data instead of the default settings.

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<p>It's great to see the change that the server MUST send all settings that differ from defaults instead of just those that differ from the implied settings for early data.</p>
<p>I'm a bit concerned that this says effectively says that it's optional (not RFC 2119 word) for clients to remember SETTINGS when sending early data, because now a server can't assume that a client is using the remembered SETTINGS in early data instead of the default settings.</p>

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  Date:   2019-08-16 (Fri, 16 Aug 2019)

  Changed paths:
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  State network byte order here, too


  Commit: c6f3fe70d94abd2237719b36a87f354a39549147
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  Merge pull request #2976 from quicwg/transport/pa_yes_really_nbo

State network byte order in PreferredAddress


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/dd54111645f2...c6f3fe70d94a


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If we allow empty NEW_TOKEN frames, the receiver would have to check that the token is not empty before saving and reusing it, so it seems slightly easier to forbid this nonsensical edge case.
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  * forbid empty NEW_TOKEN frames

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<p>If we allow empty NEW_TOKEN frames, the receiver would have to check that the token is not empty before saving and reusing it, so it seems slightly easier to forbid this nonsensical edge case.</p>

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Minor change but the annoyance will stay forever, so I think it is worth going for.

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<p>Minor change but the annoyance will stay forever, so I think it is worth going for.</p>

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> -| ---------------------------- | :----: | ------------------------- |
-| Reserved                     |  0x2   | N/A                       |
-| Reserved                     |  0x3   | N/A                       |
-| Reserved                     |  0x4   | N/A                       |
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+| Reserved                     |  0x3   | N/A                       | N/A     |
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Well, not really as endpoints are allowed to ignore this value :)

But yeah https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-http.html#rfc.section.7.2.5.1 says the default value is unlimited, so this should be aligned to that (though I'd much rather remove this setting completely as it serves no purpose...).

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<p><b>@ghedo</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2974#discussion_r314982631">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; -| ---------------------------- | :----: | ------------------------- |
-| Reserved                     |  0x2   | N/A                       |
-| Reserved                     |  0x3   | N/A                       |
-| Reserved                     |  0x4   | N/A                       |
-| Reserved                     |  0x5   | N/A                       |
-| MAX_HEADER_LIST_SIZE         |  0x6   | {{settings-parameters}}   |
-| NUM_PLACEHOLDERS             |  0x9   | {{settings-parameters}}   |
-| ---------------------------- | ------ | ------------------------- |
+| ---------------------------- | ------ | ------------------------- | ------- |
+| Setting Name                 |  Code  | Specification             | Default |
+| ---------------------------- | :----: | ------------------------- | ------- |
+| Reserved                     |  0x2   | N/A                       | N/A     |
+| Reserved                     |  0x3   | N/A                       | N/A     |
+| Reserved                     |  0x4   | N/A                       | N/A     |
+| Reserved                     |  0x5   | N/A                       | N/A     |
+| MAX_HEADER_LIST_SIZE         |  0x6   | {{settings-parameters}}   | 0       |
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<p>Well, not really as endpoints are allowed to ignore this value :)</p>
<p>But yeah <a href="https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-http.html#rfc.section.7.2.5.1" rel="nofollow">https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-http.html#rfc.section.7.2.5.1</a> says the default value is unlimited, so this should be aligned to that (though I'd much rather remove this setting completely as it serves no purpose...).</p>

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kazuho commented on this pull request.

Thank you for the changes. I think it's much better, the discussion of "active" connection ID looks good.

> @@ -2057,11 +2058,17 @@ linked by any other entity.
 At any time, endpoints MAY change the Destination Connection ID they send to a
 value that has not been used on another path.
 
-An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID if it initiates connection migration.
-Using a new connection ID eliminates the use of the connection ID for linking
-activity from the same connection on different networks.  Header protection
-ensures that packet numbers cannot be used to correlate activity.  This does not
-prevent other properties of packets, such as timing and size, from being used to
+An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID if it initiates connection migration as
+described in {{initiating-migration}}.  An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID

Maybe add something like: "or when probing a new path ({{#probing}})"?

> @@ -2057,11 +2058,17 @@ linked by any other entity.
 At any time, endpoints MAY change the Destination Connection ID they send to a
 value that has not been used on another path.
 
-An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID if it initiates connection migration.
-Using a new connection ID eliminates the use of the connection ID for linking
-activity from the same connection on different networks.  Header protection
-ensures that packet numbers cannot be used to correlate activity.  This does not
-prevent other properties of packets, such as timing and size, from being used to
+An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID if it initiates connection migration as
+described in {{initiating-migration}}.  An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID
+in response to a change in the address of a peer if the packet with the new peer
+address uses an active connection ID that has not been previously used by the
+peer.

What should the responding endpoint do, when it does not have any unused Connection IDs?

I think we have at least four options, but neither of them seem to be very good: a) respond using a Connection ID already in use, b) error-close the connection (on the active path), c) respond with a stateless reset, d) drop the packet.

Option _a_ has the privacy concern. I do not think that option _b_ or _c_ is viable, as it creates an attack vector (a middlebox might race the packet that initiates the migration from a different source address. If the spoofed packet reaches the server before the legitimate one, the connection might get dropped as the server might have used all the spare connection IDs for responding to the spoofed packets). Option _d_ seems a bit odd.

Relatedly, Section 9.1 (Probing a New Path) states quote: _An endpoint that uses a new local address needs to ensure that at least one new connection ID is available at the peer. That can be achieved by including a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame in the probe._ I think that this is a good advice and that we might want to promote the sentences to here, so that it would cover both path probing and immediate connection migration.

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<p><b>@kazuho</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<p>Thank you for the changes. I think it's much better, the discussion of "active" connection ID looks good.</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2969#discussion_r315008858">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -2057,11 +2058,17 @@ linked by any other entity.
 At any time, endpoints MAY change the Destination Connection ID they send to a
 value that has not been used on another path.
 
-An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID if it initiates connection migration.
-Using a new connection ID eliminates the use of the connection ID for linking
-activity from the same connection on different networks.  Header protection
-ensures that packet numbers cannot be used to correlate activity.  This does not
-prevent other properties of packets, such as timing and size, from being used to
+An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID if it initiates connection migration as
+described in {{initiating-migration}}.  An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID
</pre>
<p>Maybe add something like: "or when probing a new path ({{#probing}})"?</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2969#discussion_r315009524">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -2057,11 +2058,17 @@ linked by any other entity.
 At any time, endpoints MAY change the Destination Connection ID they send to a
 value that has not been used on another path.
 
-An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID if it initiates connection migration.
-Using a new connection ID eliminates the use of the connection ID for linking
-activity from the same connection on different networks.  Header protection
-ensures that packet numbers cannot be used to correlate activity.  This does not
-prevent other properties of packets, such as timing and size, from being used to
+An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID if it initiates connection migration as
+described in {{initiating-migration}}.  An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID
+in response to a change in the address of a peer if the packet with the new peer
+address uses an active connection ID that has not been previously used by the
+peer.
</pre>
<p>What should the responding endpoint do, when it does not have any unused Connection IDs?</p>
<p>I think we have at least four options, but neither of them seem to be very good: a) respond using a Connection ID already in use, b) error-close the connection (on the active path), c) respond with a stateless reset, d) drop the packet.</p>
<p>Option <em>a</em> has the privacy concern. I do not think that option <em>b</em> or <em>c</em> is viable, as it creates an attack vector (a middlebox might race the packet that initiates the migration from a different source address. If the spoofed packet reaches the server before the legitimate one, the connection might get dropped as the server might have used all the spare connection IDs for responding to the spoofed packets). Option <em>d</em> seems a bit odd.</p>
<p>Relatedly, Section 9.1 (Probing a New Path) states quote: <em>An endpoint that uses a new local address needs to ensure that at least one new connection ID is available at the peer. That can be achieved by including a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame in the probe.</em> I think that this is a good advice and that we might want to promote the sentences to here, so that it would cover both path probing and immediate connection migration.</p>

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  Merge pull request #2961 from quicwg/retransmit-new-token

Repair rules for NEW_TOKEN


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> @@ -1396,22 +1396,25 @@ servers, the initial value of each client setting is the default value.
 For clients using a 1-RTT QUIC connection, the initial value of each server
 setting is the default value. When a 0-RTT QUIC connection is being used, the
 initial value of each server setting is the value used in the previous session.
-Clients MUST store the settings the server provided in the session being resumed
-and MUST comply with stored settings until the current server settings are
-received.  A client can use these initial values to send requests before the
+Clients SHOULD store the settings the server provided in the session being
+resumed and MUST comply with stored settings until the current server settings

Yeah, this complicates the text somewhat.  If the intent is to have clients comply with either defaults or whatever they remember, then maybe:

Clients SHOULD store the settings the server provided in the connection where resumption information was provided.  A client MUST comply with either stored settings - or default values if no values are stored - when attempting 0-RTT.  Once a server has provided new settings, clients MUST comply with those values.

> @@ -1396,22 +1396,25 @@ servers, the initial value of each client setting is the default value.
 For clients using a 1-RTT QUIC connection, the initial value of each server
 setting is the default value. When a 0-RTT QUIC connection is being used, the
 initial value of each server setting is the value used in the previous session.
-Clients MUST store the settings the server provided in the session being resumed
-and MUST comply with stored settings until the current server settings are
-received.  A client can use these initial values to send requests before the
+Clients SHOULD store the settings the server provided in the session being
+resumed and MUST comply with stored settings until the current server settings
+are received.  If the client did not store, or did not receive, server settings
+from the previous session, the initial value of each setting is the default
+value.  A client can use these initial values to send requests before the

This business about defaults can be split into a new paragraph, ideally one preceding this more complicated part.

> Settings assume default values prior to receiving a SETTINGS frame, or if the SETTINGS frame does not include a value for the setting.  Endpoints can use these default values to send requests before receiving the a SETTINGS frame.

>  server's SETTINGS frame has arrived.  This removes the need for a client to wait
 for the SETTINGS frame before sending requests.
 
 A server can remember the settings that it advertised, or store an
 integrity-protected copy of the values in the ticket and recover the information
 when accepting 0-RTT data. A server uses the HTTP/3 settings values in
-determining whether to accept 0-RTT data.
+determining whether to accept 0-RTT data.  If the server cannot recover the
+settings from a session being resumed, it MUST NOT accept 0-RTT data.

I don't think that we're mandating the use of session tickets, even if that is the most common method of implementing these.

I think that "recover" is probably still right, though it might be clearer here if we say "If a server cannot determine that the settings remembered by a client are compatible with its current settings, it MUST reject 0-RTT."

Then we need to define what "compatible" means.

>  
 A server MAY accept 0-RTT and subsequently provide different settings in its
 SETTINGS frame. If 0-RTT data is accepted by the server, its SETTINGS frame MUST
 NOT reduce any limits or alter any values that might be violated by the client
-with its 0-RTT data.  The server MAY omit settings from its SETTINGS frame which
-are unchanged from the initial value.
+with its 0-RTT data.  The server MUST include all settings which differ from
+their default values, even if the value is unchanged from the previous session.

I might drop the bit from the comma onwards.  The only case we have two values is in 0-RTT (not resumption, as this implies) and that text is now very clear that the remembered values only apply until SETTINGS arrives.

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<p><b>@martinthomson</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2972#discussion_r315012668">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1396,22 +1396,25 @@ servers, the initial value of each client setting is the default value.
 For clients using a 1-RTT QUIC connection, the initial value of each server
 setting is the default value. When a 0-RTT QUIC connection is being used, the
 initial value of each server setting is the value used in the previous session.
-Clients MUST store the settings the server provided in the session being resumed
-and MUST comply with stored settings until the current server settings are
-received.  A client can use these initial values to send requests before the
+Clients SHOULD store the settings the server provided in the session being
+resumed and MUST comply with stored settings until the current server settings
</pre>
<p>Yeah, this complicates the text somewhat.  If the intent is to have clients comply with either defaults or whatever they remember, then maybe:</p>
<p>Clients SHOULD store the settings the server provided in the connection where resumption information was provided.  A client MUST comply with either stored settings - or default values if no values are stored - when attempting 0-RTT.  Once a server has provided new settings, clients MUST comply with those values.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2972#discussion_r315012835">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1396,22 +1396,25 @@ servers, the initial value of each client setting is the default value.
 For clients using a 1-RTT QUIC connection, the initial value of each server
 setting is the default value. When a 0-RTT QUIC connection is being used, the
 initial value of each server setting is the value used in the previous session.
-Clients MUST store the settings the server provided in the session being resumed
-and MUST comply with stored settings until the current server settings are
-received.  A client can use these initial values to send requests before the
+Clients SHOULD store the settings the server provided in the session being
+resumed and MUST comply with stored settings until the current server settings
+are received.  If the client did not store, or did not receive, server settings
+from the previous session, the initial value of each setting is the default
+value.  A client can use these initial values to send requests before the
</pre>
<p>This business about defaults can be split into a new paragraph, ideally one preceding this more complicated part.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Settings assume default values prior to receiving a SETTINGS frame, or if the SETTINGS frame does not include a value for the setting.  Endpoints can use these default values to send requests before receiving the a SETTINGS frame.</p>
</blockquote>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2972#discussion_r315013080">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  server&#39;s SETTINGS frame has arrived.  This removes the need for a client to wait
 for the SETTINGS frame before sending requests.
 
 A server can remember the settings that it advertised, or store an
 integrity-protected copy of the values in the ticket and recover the information
 when accepting 0-RTT data. A server uses the HTTP/3 settings values in
-determining whether to accept 0-RTT data.
+determining whether to accept 0-RTT data.  If the server cannot recover the
+settings from a session being resumed, it MUST NOT accept 0-RTT data.
</pre>
<p>I don't think that we're mandating the use of session tickets, even if that is the most common method of implementing these.</p>
<p>I think that "recover" is probably still right, though it might be clearer here if we say "If a server cannot determine that the settings remembered by a client are compatible with its current settings, it MUST reject 0-RTT."</p>
<p>Then we need to define what "compatible" means.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2972#discussion_r315013173">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  
 A server MAY accept 0-RTT and subsequently provide different settings in its
 SETTINGS frame. If 0-RTT data is accepted by the server, its SETTINGS frame MUST
 NOT reduce any limits or alter any values that might be violated by the client
-with its 0-RTT data.  The server MAY omit settings from its SETTINGS frame which
-are unchanged from the initial value.
+with its 0-RTT data.  The server MUST include all settings which differ from
+their default values, even if the value is unchanged from the previous session.
</pre>
<p>I might drop the bit from the comma onwards.  The only case we have two values is in 0-RTT (not resumption, as this implies) and that text is now very clear that the remembered values only apply until SETTINGS arrives.</p>

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>  
 When HTTP Alternative Services is used for discovery for HTTP/3 endpoints, the
 security considerations of {{!ALTSVC}} also apply.
 
+## Traffic Analysis
+
+Where HTTP/2 employs PADDING frames and Padding fields in other frames to make a
+connection more resistant to traffic analysis, HTTP/3 can either rely on
+transport-layer padding or employ the reserved frame and stream types discussed
+in {{frame-grease}} and {{stream-grease}}.  This provides slightly different
+granularities of padding and may involve different control surfaces.

These methods of padding produce different results in terms of the granularity of padding, the effect of packet loss and recovery, and how an implementation might control padding.

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<p><b>@martinthomson</b> approved this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2975#discussion_r315013617">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  
 When HTTP Alternative Services is used for discovery for HTTP/3 endpoints, the
 security considerations of {{!ALTSVC}} also apply.
 
+## Traffic Analysis
+
+Where HTTP/2 employs PADDING frames and Padding fields in other frames to make a
+connection more resistant to traffic analysis, HTTP/3 can either rely on
+transport-layer padding or employ the reserved frame and stream types discussed
+in {{frame-grease}} and {{stream-grease}}.  This provides slightly different
+granularities of padding and may involve different control surfaces.
</pre>
<p>These methods of padding produce different results in terms of the granularity of padding, the effect of packet loss and recovery, and how an implementation might control padding.</p>

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I won't do that if others don't think that, but it seems that at least @nharper thinks it's worth doing.

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<p>I won't do that if others don't think that, but it seems that at least <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/hovercards?user_id=653608" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/nharper">@nharper</a> thinks it's worth doing.</p>

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martinthomson requested changes on this pull request.



> @@ -279,13 +279,14 @@ components:
 protection being called out specially.
 
 ~~~
-+------------+                        +------------+
-|            |<- Handshake Messages ->|            |
-|            |<---- 0-RTT Keys -------|            |
-|            |<--- Handshake Keys-----|            |
-|   QUIC     |<---- 1-RTT Keys -------|    TLS     |
-|            |<--- Handshake Done ----|            |
-+------------+                        +------------+
++------------+                               +------------+
+|            |<---- Handshake Messages ----->|            |
+|            |<- Validate 0-RTT parameters ->|            |
+|            |<--------- 0-RTT Keys ---------|            |
+|            |<------- Handshake Keys -------|            |
+|   QUIC     |<--------- 1-RTT Keys ---------|    TLS     |

We probably need to move the QUIC and TLS labels up by a line.

> @@ -629,6 +632,24 @@ A client MAY attempt to send 0-RTT again if it receives a Retry or Version
 Negotiation packet.  These packets do not signify rejection of 0-RTT.
 
 
+## Validating saved 0-RTT state

```suggestion
## Validating 0-RTT Configuration
```

> @@ -629,6 +632,24 @@ A client MAY attempt to send 0-RTT again if it receives a Retry or Version
 Negotiation packet.  These packets do not signify rejection of 0-RTT.
 
 
+## Validating saved 0-RTT state
+
+When a server receives a ClientHello with the "early_data" extension, it has to
+decide whether to accept or reject early data from the client. Some of this
+decision is made by the TLS stack (e.g. checking that the cipher suite being

```suggestion
decision is made by the TLS stack (e.g., checking that the cipher suite being
```

> @@ -629,6 +632,24 @@ A client MAY attempt to send 0-RTT again if it receives a Retry or Version
 Negotiation packet.  These packets do not signify rejection of 0-RTT.
 
 
+## Validating saved 0-RTT state
+
+When a server receives a ClientHello with the "early_data" extension, it has to
+decide whether to accept or reject early data from the client. Some of this
+decision is made by the TLS stack (e.g. checking that the cipher suite being
+resumed was included in the ClientHello; see Section 4.2.10 of {{!TLS13}}). QUIC
+saves additional transport and application state in a 0-RTT session ticket, and

QUIC doesn't save anything.  This is an implementation choice.  The key point is that QUIC requires that servers associate session configuration information with a resumed session.  The right thing to say here is that QUIC requires that a server be able to recover transport parameters for a resumed session, and different application protocols that use QUIC might have similar requirements regarding their configuration.  If transport parameters or application protocol configuration associated with a resumed session is not compatible with the current configuration of the server, the server MUST reject 0-RTT.

> @@ -629,6 +632,24 @@ A client MAY attempt to send 0-RTT again if it receives a Retry or Version
 Negotiation packet.  These packets do not signify rejection of 0-RTT.
 
 
+## Validating saved 0-RTT state
+
+When a server receives a ClientHello with the "early_data" extension, it has to
+decide whether to accept or reject early data from the client. Some of this
+decision is made by the TLS stack (e.g. checking that the cipher suite being
+resumed was included in the ClientHello; see Section 4.2.10 of {{!TLS13}}). QUIC
+saves additional transport and application state in a 0-RTT session ticket, and
+imposes additional restrictions on when a server may accept early data. The TLS
+stack needs to check with the QUIC stack whether this saved state is valid for
+accepting early data.
+
+One example of such state that the QUIC stack checks when deciding whether or
+not to accept early data is the transport parameters extension. When HTTP/3

Transport parameters are the exhaustive set of things that the transport cares about.  But this implies otherwise.  I would concentrate on mentioning the h3 settings as an example of the sort of things that might be included.

Yes, we could define an extension to QUIC (the transport) that allowed state to be associated with a resumed sessions in a way that would affect this, but we don't need to do that now and our future selves can worry about how to integrate that with 0-RTT.

> +## Validating saved 0-RTT state
+
+When a server receives a ClientHello with the "early_data" extension, it has to
+decide whether to accept or reject early data from the client. Some of this
+decision is made by the TLS stack (e.g. checking that the cipher suite being
+resumed was included in the ClientHello; see Section 4.2.10 of {{!TLS13}}). QUIC
+saves additional transport and application state in a 0-RTT session ticket, and
+imposes additional restrictions on when a server may accept early data. The TLS
+stack needs to check with the QUIC stack whether this saved state is valid for
+accepting early data.
+
+One example of such state that the QUIC stack checks when deciding whether or
+not to accept early data is the transport parameters extension. When HTTP/3
+({{QUIC-HTTP}}) is used at the application layer, the SETTINGS frame from the
+previous session is another such example. This list is not intended to be
+exhaustive; future applications using QUIC may impose different restrictions.

```suggestion
For example, HTTP/3 ({{QUIC-HTTP}}) settings determine how 0-RTT from the client
is interpreted. Other applications using QUIC could have different requirements
for determining whether to accept or reject 0-RTT.
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-+------------+                        +------------+=0D
-|            |&lt;- Handshake Messages -&gt;|            |=0D
-|            |&lt;---- 0-RTT Keys -------|            |=0D
-|            |&lt;--- Handshake Keys-----|            |=0D
-|   QUIC     |&lt;---- 1-RTT Keys -------|    TLS     |=0D
-|            |&lt;--- Handshake Done ----|            |=0D
-+------------+                        +------------+=0D
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+|            |&lt;---- Handshake Messages -----&gt;|            |=0D
+|            |&lt;- Validate 0-RTT parameters -&gt;|            |=0D
+|            |&lt;--------- 0-RTT Keys ---------|            |=0D
+|            |&lt;------- Handshake Keys -------|            |=0D
+|   QUIC     |&lt;--------- 1-RTT Keys ---------|    TLS     |=0D
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+## Validating saved 0-RTT state=0D
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+decide whether to accept or reject early data from the client. Some of t=
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to send 0-RTT again if it receives a Retry or Version=0D
 Negotiation packet.  These packets do not signify rejection of 0-RTT.=0D=

 =0D
 =0D
+## Validating saved 0-RTT state=0D
+=0D
+When a server receives a ClientHello with the &quot;early_data&quot; ext=
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+decide whether to accept or reject early data from the client. Some of t=
his=0D
+decision is made by the TLS stack (e.g. checking that the cipher suite b=
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+resumed was included in the ClientHello; see Section 4.2.10 of {{!TLS13}=
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</pre>=0D
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y point is that QUIC requires that servers associate session configuratio=
n information with a resumed session.  The right thing to say here is tha=
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 =0D
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+## Validating saved 0-RTT state=0D
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It makes absolutely no sense to allow NEW_TOKEN to be empty, but we never really said that explicitly.  So let's do that.  @marten-seemann opened #2977 for that.

Unfortunately, this is technically a design change, and we are that point.  So let's do this by the book.

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<p>It makes absolutely no sense to allow NEW_TOKEN to be empty, but we never really said that explicitly.  So let's do that.  <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/hovercards?user_id=1478487" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/marten-seemann">@marten-seemann</a> opened <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="481842854" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2977" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2977/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2977">#2977</a> for that.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, this is technically a design change, and we are that point.  So let's do this by the book.</p>

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martinthomson commented on this pull request.



> @@ -2057,11 +2058,17 @@ linked by any other entity.
 At any time, endpoints MAY change the Destination Connection ID they send to a
 value that has not been used on another path.
 
-An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID if it initiates connection migration.
-Using a new connection ID eliminates the use of the connection ID for linking
-activity from the same connection on different networks.  Header protection
-ensures that packet numbers cannot be used to correlate activity.  This does not
-prevent other properties of packets, such as timing and size, from being used to
+An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID if it initiates connection migration as
+described in {{initiating-migration}}.  An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID
+in response to a change in the address of a peer if the packet with the new peer
+address uses an active connection ID that has not been previously used by the
+peer.

Yeah, option *d* is the only viable option I can see.  I will add text to that effect.

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<p><b>@martinthomson</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2969#discussion_r315015933">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -2057,11 +2058,17 @@ linked by any other entity.
 At any time, endpoints MAY change the Destination Connection ID they send to a
 value that has not been used on another path.
 
-An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID if it initiates connection migration.
-Using a new connection ID eliminates the use of the connection ID for linking
-activity from the same connection on different networks.  Header protection
-ensures that packet numbers cannot be used to correlate activity.  This does not
-prevent other properties of packets, such as timing and size, from being used to
+An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID if it initiates connection migration as
+described in {{initiating-migration}}.  An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID
+in response to a change in the address of a peer if the packet with the new peer
+address uses an active connection ID that has not been previously used by the
+peer.
</pre>
<p>Yeah, option <em>d</em> is the only viable option I can see.  I will add text to that effect.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/respond-migration-cid
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2019-08-19 (Mon, 19 Aug 2019)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  or probing


  Commit: 6a33e80754da87bd22364a3e8c82dc691e39e149
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6a33e80754da87bd22364a3e8c82dc691e39e149
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  Recommend including NEW_CONNECTION_ID when migrating


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b678aa88082cb7092694100097d2d20ce190da5a  or probing
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> @@ -2057,11 +2058,17 @@ linked by any other entity.
 At any time, endpoints MAY change the Destination Connection ID they send to a
 value that has not been used on another path.
 
-An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID if it initiates connection migration.
-Using a new connection ID eliminates the use of the connection ID for linking
-activity from the same connection on different networks.  Header protection
-ensures that packet numbers cannot be used to correlate activity.  This does not
-prevent other properties of packets, such as timing and size, from being used to
+An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID if it initiates connection migration as
+described in {{initiating-migration}}.  An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID
+in response to a change in the address of a peer if the packet with the new peer
+address uses an active connection ID that has not been previously used by the
+peer.

I added a recommendation to send NEW_CONNECTION_ID when migrating.  It's a little janky, because you have to include the frame in every packet to be effective.  Unless you like the wonderful cascading loss that results from your peer being forced to drop all your packets because the golden one didn't get through.  Of course, then you need to worry about how to manage that retransmission logic...

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2969#discussion_r315017061">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -2057,11 +2058,17 @@ linked by any other entity.
 At any time, endpoints MAY change the Destination Connection ID they send to a
 value that has not been used on another path.
 
-An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID if it initiates connection migration.
-Using a new connection ID eliminates the use of the connection ID for linking
-activity from the same connection on different networks.  Header protection
-ensures that packet numbers cannot be used to correlate activity.  This does not
-prevent other properties of packets, such as timing and size, from being used to
+An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID if it initiates connection migration as
+described in {{initiating-migration}}.  An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID
+in response to a change in the address of a peer if the packet with the new peer
+address uses an active connection ID that has not been previously used by the
+peer.
</pre>
<p>I added a recommendation to send NEW_CONNECTION_ID when migrating.  It's a little janky, because you have to include the frame in every packet to be effective.  Unless you like the wonderful cascading loss that results from your peer being forced to drop all your packets because the golden one didn't get through.  Of course, then you need to worry about how to manage that retransmission logic...</p>

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<p>LGTM. Thank you for the changes.</p>

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Would a token of length 1 be any better? We already have that tokens must be unique and different from other token types.

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<p>Would a token of length 1 be any better? We already have that tokens must be unique and different from other token types.</p>

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Yes.  At least then we have a clear signal that a token was provided.  Now, it's probably still awful (though it might be stateful and so not *completely* awful), but absent some strong signal about how short things can be we're in much the same state we are with connection IDs.  We now allow those to be 1 byte long, with similar results.

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<p>Yes.  At least then we have a clear signal that a token was provided.  Now, it's probably still awful (though it might be stateful and so not <em>completely</em> awful), but absent some strong signal about how short things can be we're in much the same state we are with connection IDs.  We now allow those to be 1 byte long, with similar results.</p>

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My weak preference is to not forbid 0-byte tokens, as it would be something that stacks would be forced to implement, just to pass the conformance tests.

It does not provide us any benefit (as @mikkelfj points out), while requiring stacks to have the check implemented.

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<p>My weak preference is to not forbid 0-byte tokens, as it would be something that stacks would be forced to implement, just to pass the conformance tests.</p>
<p>It does not provide us any benefit (as <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/hovercards?user_id=193335" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/mikkelfj">@mikkelfj</a> points out), while requiring stacks to have the check implemented.</p>

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@martinthomson I see the point. There is already text in initial packets stating

"Token Length:
A variable-length integer specifying the length of the Token field, in bytes. This value is zero if no token is present. "

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kazuho commented on this pull request.

The proposed text looks good, though I do not think it covers all the issues being discussed in #2945. Specifically, the text does not update _when_ a SETTINGS frame is expected to be sent.

If we are to follow the design pattern of HTTP/2, I think that we should clarify that an endpoint MUST send a SETTINGS frame as soon as it becomes possible to send application data, even when the SETTINGS frame would be empty. Otherwise, we should clarify that a SETTINGS frame is to be sent only when one of the following conditions are met: a feature depending on non-default value of a settings parameter is to be used, or a frame other than a SETTINGS frame is to be transmitted on the control stream.



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<p><b>@kazuho</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<p>The proposed text looks good, though I do not think it covers all the issues being discussed in <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="475432278" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2945" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2945/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2945">#2945</a>. Specifically, the text does not update <em>when</em> a SETTINGS frame is expected to be sent.</p>
<p>If we are to follow the design pattern of HTTP/2, I think that we should clarify that an endpoint MUST send a SETTINGS frame as soon as it becomes possible to send application data, even when the SETTINGS frame would be empty. Otherwise, we should clarify that a SETTINGS frame is to be sent only when one of the following conditions are met: a feature depending on non-default value of a settings parameter is to be used, or a frame other than a SETTINGS frame is to be transmitted on the control stream.</p>

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Allowing 0-length token requires the receiver to filter them out before saving them to their token store (however that is implemented) for reuse in a connection in the future. If you don't do this, you might go and retrieve a token from the token store, use it on an Initial packet, just to end up in the situation that you're actually not using a token at all.

I disagree with @mikkelfj here. A stateful implementation could for example generate tokens by drawing random numbers between 0 and (a big value of) N. Occasionally, this will result in small token lengths, without compromising on the desired privacy properties.

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<p>Allowing 0-length token requires the receiver to filter them out before saving them to their token store (however that is implemented) for reuse in a connection in the future. If you don't do this, you might go and retrieve a token from the token store, use it on an Initial packet, just to end up in the situation that you're actually not using a token at all.</p>
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@marten-seemann there is nothing to disagree with, or thumbsdown - it was a question.

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Fair enough, that's a legitimate question, and I hope that I could provide a satisfying answer.
Removed my thumbsdown.

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<p>Fair enough, that's a legitimate question, and I hope that I could provide a satisfying answer.<br>
Removed my thumbsdown.</p>

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@marten-seemann That's a good point. That makes sense - I can see the value of  using "0" as a signal to indicate the "absence" of the token throughout the specification, considering the fact that it is used that way at some parts of the spec.

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I'm not sure why you'd want to do this, but an empty NEW_TOKEN could be used to indicate the past tokens are no longer valid, but the peer isn't getting a new one(at least yet).  That is the practical implication of the way it's written today(later tokens are likely better than earlier, etc).

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<p>I'm not sure why you'd want to do this, but an empty NEW_TOKEN could be used to indicate the past tokens are no longer valid, but the peer isn't getting a new one(at least yet).  That is the practical implication of the way it's written today(later tokens are likely better than earlier, etc).</p>

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Somewhat related question: Does this section fit better in the recovery draft?

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<p>Somewhat related question: Does this section fit better in the recovery draft?</p>

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I thought where we landed (in concept, not necessarily text) was that you MUST change CID any time you're using a different local or remote IP:port.  That means the client MUST change if it knows it's migrating (new source address); the server will change in response because it's going to a new destination.  The client SHOULD change if it has been quiescent and anticipates a NAT-rebind (i.e. uncertain about source address); if it actually got rebound, the server would change as well (new destination address).  If it turns out the client didn't get rebound, then IP:port already correlate it; perhaps slightly better if the server rotates, but it's not required to.

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<p>I thought where we landed (in concept, not necessarily text) was that you MUST change CID any time you're using a different local or remote IP:port.  That means the client MUST change if it knows it's migrating (new source address); the server will change in response because it's going to a new destination.  The client SHOULD change if it has been quiescent and anticipates a NAT-rebind (i.e. uncertain about source address); if it actually got rebound, the server would change as well (new destination address).  If it turns out the client didn't get rebound, then IP:port already correlate it; perhaps slightly better if the server rotates, but it's not required to.</p>

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Technically should have a corresponding issue, but yes.



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<p>Technically should have a corresponding issue, but yes.</p>

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CANCEL_PUSH with a reused ID is probably indistinguishable from receiving one for a stream that's already open; you SHOULD reset the stream (which is a no-op if the stream is already full transferred).

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<p>CANCEL_PUSH with a reused ID is probably indistinguishable from receiving one for a stream that's already open; you SHOULD reset the stream (which is a no-op if the stream is already full transferred).</p>

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bencebeky commented on this pull request.

Thank you for the review.

>  table entries which have been acknowledged, but this could mean using
 literals. Since literals make the header block larger, this can result in the
 encoder becoming blocked on congestion or flow control limits.
 
 ### Known Received Count
 
-In order to identify which dynamic table entries can be safely used without a
-stream becoming blocked, the encoder tracks the number of entries received by
-the decoder.  The Known Received Count tracks the total number of acknowledged
-insertions.
+The Known Received Count is the total number of dynamic table insertions and
+duplications acknowledged by the decoder.  The encoder tracks the Known Received
+Count in order to identify which dynamic table entries can be references without

Thank you.

> @@ -445,19 +443,23 @@ encoder sends a Set Dynamic Table Capacity instruction
 ({{set-dynamic-capacity}}) with a non-zero capacity to begin using the dynamic
 table.
 
-Before a new entry is added to the dynamic table, entries are evicted from the
-end of the dynamic table until the size of the dynamic table is less than or
-equal to (table capacity - size of new entry). The encoder MUST NOT evict a
-blocking dynamic table entry (see {{blocked-insertion}}).  The entry is then
-added to the table.  It is an error if the encoder attempts to add an entry that
-is larger than the dynamic table capacity; the decoder MUST treat this as a
+When a new entry is added to the dynamic table, the minimum number of entries
+are evicted from the end of the dynamic table so that the final table size
+including the new entry does not exceed the table capacity.  This can be
+achieved by adding the new entry and then removing entries from the end until
+the table size is less than or equal to the table capacity.  Another option is
+to first evict entries until the size of the dynamic table is less than or equal
+to (table capacity - size of new entry), then add the new entry.  Note that a
+new entry can reference an entry in the dynamic table that will be evicted when
+adding this new entry.  Therefore implementations utilizing the latter option

Thank you.

> @@ -830,10 +831,8 @@ modifying it.
 
 Each header block is prefixed with two integers.  The Required Insert Count is
 encoded as an integer with an 8-bit prefix after the encoding described in
-{{ric}}).  The Base is encoded as sign-and-modulus integer, using a single sign
-bit and a value with a 7-bit prefix (see {{base}}).
-
-These two values are followed by representations for compressed headers.
+{{ric}}).  The Base is encoded as a sign bit, and a Delta Base value with a

Thank you.

> @@ -477,28 +479,27 @@ it can choose to use a lower dynamic table capacity (see
 
 For clients using 0-RTT data in HTTP/3, the server's maximum table capacity is
 the remembered value of the setting, or zero if the value was not previously
-sent.  When the client's 0-RTT value of the SETTING is 0, the server MAY set it

Just for the record, I do not feel strongly, and I'm happy to incorporate whatever @afrind suggests.

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<p><b>@bencebeky</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<p>Thank you for the review.</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2942#discussion_r315246298">draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  table entries which have been acknowledged, but this could mean using
 literals. Since literals make the header block larger, this can result in the
 encoder becoming blocked on congestion or flow control limits.
 
 ### Known Received Count
 
-In order to identify which dynamic table entries can be safely used without a
-stream becoming blocked, the encoder tracks the number of entries received by
-the decoder.  The Known Received Count tracks the total number of acknowledged
-insertions.
+The Known Received Count is the total number of dynamic table insertions and
+duplications acknowledged by the decoder.  The encoder tracks the Known Received
+Count in order to identify which dynamic table entries can be references without
</pre>
<p>Thank you.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2942#discussion_r315246530">draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -445,19 +443,23 @@ encoder sends a Set Dynamic Table Capacity instruction
 ({{set-dynamic-capacity}}) with a non-zero capacity to begin using the dynamic
 table.
 
-Before a new entry is added to the dynamic table, entries are evicted from the
-end of the dynamic table until the size of the dynamic table is less than or
-equal to (table capacity - size of new entry). The encoder MUST NOT evict a
-blocking dynamic table entry (see {{blocked-insertion}}).  The entry is then
-added to the table.  It is an error if the encoder attempts to add an entry that
-is larger than the dynamic table capacity; the decoder MUST treat this as a
+When a new entry is added to the dynamic table, the minimum number of entries
+are evicted from the end of the dynamic table so that the final table size
+including the new entry does not exceed the table capacity.  This can be
+achieved by adding the new entry and then removing entries from the end until
+the table size is less than or equal to the table capacity.  Another option is
+to first evict entries until the size of the dynamic table is less than or equal
+to (table capacity - size of new entry), then add the new entry.  Note that a
+new entry can reference an entry in the dynamic table that will be evicted when
+adding this new entry.  Therefore implementations utilizing the latter option
</pre>
<p>Thank you.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2942#discussion_r315247152">draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -830,10 +831,8 @@ modifying it.
 
 Each header block is prefixed with two integers.  The Required Insert Count is
 encoded as an integer with an 8-bit prefix after the encoding described in
-{{ric}}).  The Base is encoded as sign-and-modulus integer, using a single sign
-bit and a value with a 7-bit prefix (see {{base}}).
-
-These two values are followed by representations for compressed headers.
+{{ric}}).  The Base is encoded as a sign bit, and a Delta Base value with a
</pre>
<p>Thank you.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2942#discussion_r315248046">draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -477,28 +479,27 @@ it can choose to use a lower dynamic table capacity (see
 
 For clients using 0-RTT data in HTTP/3, the server&#39;s maximum table capacity is
 the remembered value of the setting, or zero if the value was not previously
-sent.  When the client&#39;s 0-RTT value of the SETTING is 0, the server MAY set it
</pre>
<p>Just for the record, I do not feel strongly, and I'm happy to incorporate whatever <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/hovercards?user_id=8259689" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/afrind">@afrind</a> suggests.</p>

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-An endpoint MUST allow its peer to create both encoder and decoder streams

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2942#discussion_r315254933">draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md</a>:</p>
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-An endpoint MUST allow its peer to create both encoder and decoder streams
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> -| ---------------------------- | :----: | ------------------------- |
-| Reserved                     |  0x2   | N/A                       |
-| Reserved                     |  0x3   | N/A                       |
-| Reserved                     |  0x4   | N/A                       |
-| Reserved                     |  0x5   | N/A                       |
-| MAX_HEADER_LIST_SIZE         |  0x6   | {{settings-parameters}}   |
-| NUM_PLACEHOLDERS             |  0x9   | {{settings-parameters}}   |
-| ---------------------------- | ------ | ------------------------- |
+| ---------------------------- | ------ | ------------------------- | ------- |
+| Setting Name                 |  Code  | Specification             | Default |
+| ---------------------------- | :----: | ------------------------- | ------- |
+| Reserved                     |  0x2   | N/A                       | N/A     |
+| Reserved                     |  0x3   | N/A                       | N/A     |
+| Reserved                     |  0x4   | N/A                       | N/A     |
+| Reserved                     |  0x5   | N/A                       | N/A     |
+| MAX_HEADER_LIST_SIZE         |  0x6   | {{settings-parameters}}   | 0       |

Bah, yes.  I was just following "SHOULD be the most restrictive possible value" on autopilot, but this is an exception (because it's advisory).

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2974#discussion_r315270378">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; -| ---------------------------- | :----: | ------------------------- |
-| Reserved                     |  0x2   | N/A                       |
-| Reserved                     |  0x3   | N/A                       |
-| Reserved                     |  0x4   | N/A                       |
-| Reserved                     |  0x5   | N/A                       |
-| MAX_HEADER_LIST_SIZE         |  0x6   | {{settings-parameters}}   |
-| NUM_PLACEHOLDERS             |  0x9   | {{settings-parameters}}   |
-| ---------------------------- | ------ | ------------------------- |
+| ---------------------------- | ------ | ------------------------- | ------- |
+| Setting Name                 |  Code  | Specification             | Default |
+| ---------------------------- | :----: | ------------------------- | ------- |
+| Reserved                     |  0x2   | N/A                       | N/A     |
+| Reserved                     |  0x3   | N/A                       | N/A     |
+| Reserved                     |  0x4   | N/A                       | N/A     |
+| Reserved                     |  0x5   | N/A                       | N/A     |
+| MAX_HEADER_LIST_SIZE         |  0x6   | {{settings-parameters}}   | 0       |
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<p>Bah, yes.  I was just following "SHOULD be the most restrictive possible value" on autopilot, but this is an exception (because it's advisory).</p>

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  Changed paths:
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> I'm a bit concerned that this says effectively says that it's optional (not RFC 2119 word) for clients to remember SETTINGS when sending early data, because now a server can't assume that a client is using the remembered SETTINGS in early data instead of the default settings.

That should be okay, because the defaults are intentionally the most restrictive settings possible.  If the client opts to retain/use a ticket for which it has no settings, then it doesn't get to use anything fancy until it sees the SETTINGS frame.

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> Specifically, the text does not update _when_ a SETTINGS frame is expected to be sent.
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> If we are to follow the design pattern of HTTP/2, I think that we should clarify that an endpoint MUST send a SETTINGS frame as soon as it becomes possible to send application data, even when the SETTINGS frame would be empty. Otherwise, we should clarify that a SETTINGS frame is to be sent only when one of the following conditions are met: a feature depending on non-default value of a settings parameter is to be used, or a frame other than a SETTINGS frame is to be transmitted on the control stream.

I think this is ultimately intractable.  You can't tell the difference between the control stream having a delay due to packet loss vs. the server simply not sending the settings until it has something else to send, or even not sending it at all.  If either party opts to run on pure defaults, we can't really stop them and getting an empty SETTINGS frame out of them doesn't really solve anything.

We shouldn't mandate a delay, which is how I read your second case.  We can lay down some encouragement to send it ASAP -- getting to use non-default settings in 0-RTT next time and being able to use any features of the control stream both push in that direction -- but failure to do so is probably not obvious and therefore a poor candidate for a MUST.

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<p>I'm a bit concerned that this says effectively says that it's optional (not RFC 2119 word) for clients to remember SETTINGS when sending early data, because now a server can't assume that a client is using the remembered SETTINGS in early data instead of the default settings.</p>
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<p>Specifically, the text does not update <em>when</em> a SETTINGS frame is expected to be sent.</p>
<p>If we are to follow the design pattern of HTTP/2, I think that we should clarify that an endpoint MUST send a SETTINGS frame as soon as it becomes possible to send application data, even when the SETTINGS frame would be empty. Otherwise, we should clarify that a SETTINGS frame is to be sent only when one of the following conditions are met: a feature depending on non-default value of a settings parameter is to be used, or a frame other than a SETTINGS frame is to be transmitted on the control stream.</p>
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<p>I think this is ultimately intractable.  You can't tell the difference between the control stream having a delay due to packet loss vs. the server simply not sending the settings until it has something else to send, or even not sending it at all.  If either party opts to run on pure defaults, we can't really stop them and getting an empty SETTINGS frame out of them doesn't really solve anything.</p>
<p>We shouldn't mandate a delay, which is how I read your second case.  We can lay down some encouragement to send it ASAP -- getting to use non-default settings in 0-RTT next time and being able to use any features of the control stream both push in that direction -- but failure to do so is probably not obvious and therefore a poor candidate for a MUST.</p>

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erickinnear approved this pull request.

Thanks for writing this up! Content looks great, just two minor wording questions and this looks ready to go.

> @@ -2077,9 +2084,13 @@ genuine migrations.  Changing port number can cause a peer to reset its
 congestion state (see {{migration-cc}}), so the port SHOULD only be changed
 infrequently.
 
-An endpoint that exhausts available connection IDs cannot migrate.  To ensure
-that migration is possible and packets sent on different paths cannot be
-correlated, endpoints SHOULD provide new connection IDs before peers migrate.
+An endpoint that exhausts available connection IDs cannot migrate.  Similarly,
+an endpoint is unable to respond to probes or an attempt by its peer to migrate

This sentence parses oddly for me, I assume it's in the context of the previous sentence, but maybe something like
```
An endpoint that exhausts available connection IDs cannot probe new paths or initiate 
migration, nor can it respond to probes or attempts by its peer to migrate.
```
and replace both sentences.
(Not providing that as a suggested change since it'll mess up the wrapping, sorry!)

> @@ -2077,9 +2084,13 @@ genuine migrations.  Changing port number can cause a peer to reset its
 congestion state (see {{migration-cc}}), so the port SHOULD only be changed
 infrequently.
 
-An endpoint that exhausts available connection IDs cannot migrate.  To ensure
-that migration is possible and packets sent on different paths cannot be
-correlated, endpoints SHOULD provide new connection IDs before peers migrate.
+An endpoint that exhausts available connection IDs cannot migrate.  Similarly,
+an endpoint is unable to respond to probes or an attempt by its peer to migrate
+or probe.  To ensure that migration is possible and packets sent on different
+paths cannot be correlated, endpoints SHOULD provide new connection IDs before
+peers migrate.  If a peer might have exhausted available connection IDs, a

Do we want to reference the other section that talks about SHOULD provide a new CID for every one that gets retired, etc.? I think that's `{{issue-cid}}`.

Specifically the below paragraph: 
```
An endpoint SHOULD supply a new connection ID when it receives a packet with a
previously unused connection ID or when the peer retires one, unless providing
the new connection ID would exceed the peer's limit.  An endpoint MAY limit the
frequency or the total number of connection IDs issued for each connection to
avoid the risk of running out of connection IDs; see {{reset-token}}.
```

```suggestion
peers migrate ({{issue-cid}}).  If a peer might have exhausted available connection IDs, a
```

If that doesn't mess up the spacing.

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Yeah, that's just confusing.  The semantics of NEW_TOKEN don't imply invalidation.  We'd have to explicitly say that if NEW_TOKEN.size == 0, all previous tokens are invalid.  And then you have to also address the case of reordering and retransmissions of old NEW_TOKEN frames that arrive after the empty one.  Let's not go there.

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<p>Yeah, that's just confusing.  The semantics of NEW_TOKEN don't imply invalidation.  We'd have to explicitly say that if NEW_TOKEN.size == 0, all previous tokens are invalid.  And then you have to also address the case of reordering and retransmissions of old NEW_TOKEN frames that arrive after the empty one.  Let's not go there.</p>

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I don't think so.  This talks about the repair semantics of these frames, not the process of detecting loss.  Recovery doesn't care about the distinction between PING and STREAM when it comes to repair.

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> -| ---------------------------- | :----: | ------------------------- |
-| Reserved                     |  0x2   | N/A                       |
-| Reserved                     |  0x3   | N/A                       |
-| Reserved                     |  0x4   | N/A                       |
-| Reserved                     |  0x5   | N/A                       |
-| MAX_HEADER_LIST_SIZE         |  0x6   | {{settings-parameters}}   |
-| NUM_PLACEHOLDERS             |  0x9   | {{settings-parameters}}   |
-| ---------------------------- | ------ | ------------------------- |
+| ---------------------------- | ------ | ------------------------- | ------- |
+| Setting Name                 |  Code  | Specification             | Default |
+| ---------------------------- | :----: | ------------------------- | ------- |
+| Reserved                     |  0x2   | N/A                       | N/A     |
+| Reserved                     |  0x3   | N/A                       | N/A     |
+| Reserved                     |  0x4   | N/A                       | N/A     |
+| Reserved                     |  0x5   | N/A                       | N/A     |
+| MAX_HEADER_LIST_SIZE         |  0x6   | {{settings-parameters}}   | 0       |

Would 2^62-1 be less offensive?

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2974#discussion_r315460757">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; -| ---------------------------- | :----: | ------------------------- |
-| Reserved                     |  0x2   | N/A                       |
-| Reserved                     |  0x3   | N/A                       |
-| Reserved                     |  0x4   | N/A                       |
-| Reserved                     |  0x5   | N/A                       |
-| MAX_HEADER_LIST_SIZE         |  0x6   | {{settings-parameters}}   |
-| NUM_PLACEHOLDERS             |  0x9   | {{settings-parameters}}   |
-| ---------------------------- | ------ | ------------------------- |
+| ---------------------------- | ------ | ------------------------- | ------- |
+| Setting Name                 |  Code  | Specification             | Default |
+| ---------------------------- | :----: | ------------------------- | ------- |
+| Reserved                     |  0x2   | N/A                       | N/A     |
+| Reserved                     |  0x3   | N/A                       | N/A     |
+| Reserved                     |  0x4   | N/A                       | N/A     |
+| Reserved                     |  0x5   | N/A                       | N/A     |
+| MAX_HEADER_LIST_SIZE         |  0x6   | {{settings-parameters}}   | 0       |
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<p>Would 2^62-1 be less offensive?</p>

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@MikeBishop 
> I think this is ultimately intractable. You can't tell the difference between the control stream having a delay due to packet loss vs. the server simply not sending the settings until it has something else to send, or even not sending it at all.

I disagree. If we are to require endpoints to send SETTINGS frame right after the connection is established, not sending anything until receiving the SETTINGS frame is a totally acceptable behavior (even though it might be less performant in some cases). It is no different than waiting for a Handshake packet before becoming possible to process a 1-RTT packet.

I think we should clarify if an endpoint can be implemented that way, because we have seen interop issues due to some doing that, and because that is the way H2 is designed. Maybe something like https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5fadbbbff7a5e566a2c951376be7999aca2c7edb.

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<p>I disagree. If we are to require endpoints to send SETTINGS frame right after the connection is established, not sending anything until receiving the SETTINGS frame is a totally acceptable behavior (even though it might be less performant in some cases). It is no different than waiting for a Handshake packet before becoming possible to process a 1-RTT packet.</p>
<p>I think we should clarify if an endpoint can be implemented that way, because we have seen interop issues due to some doing that, and because that is the way H2 is designed. Maybe something like <a class="commit-link" data-hovercard-type="commit" data-hovercard-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5fadbbbff7a5e566a2c951376be7999aca2c7edb/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5fadbbbff7a5e566a2c951376be7999aca2c7edb"><tt>5fadbbb</tt></a>.</p>

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In issue #2823 I was advocating for keeping the initial key the same (even across a Retry that changes the CID), but I don't have a preference for whether the CID MUST vs MAY vs MUST NOT change in a Retry.

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<p>In issue <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="458884091" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2823" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2823/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2823">#2823</a> I was advocating for keeping the initial key the same (even across a Retry that changes the CID), but I don't have a preference for whether the CID MUST vs MAY vs MUST NOT change in a Retry.</p>

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OK, I think that I'm getting my wires crossed.  I think that changing CID is valuable because it then forces the server to demonstrate continuity.  It's keeping the keys constant (per #2823) that has the added value.

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<p>OK, I think that I'm getting my wires crossed.  I think that changing CID is valuable because it then forces the server to demonstrate continuity.  It's keeping the keys constant (per <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="458884091" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2823" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2823/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2823">#2823</a>) that has the added value.</p>

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I assume the intention was to forbid the same setting identifier
occurring multiple times in a SETTINGS frame, regardless of the values.
However, since a parameter is defined as an identifier-value pair, the
current text does not forbid duplicate identifiers if the values are
different.
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  * Forbid duplicate setting identifiers.

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (6)

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<p>I assume the intention was to forbid the same setting identifier<br>
occurring multiple times in a SETTINGS frame, regardless of the values.<br>
However, since a parameter is defined as an identifier-value pair, the<br>
current text does not forbid duplicate identifiers if the values are<br>
different.</p>

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  <li>Forbid duplicate setting identifiers.</li>
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    <strong>M</strong>
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PR #2887 updated the salt but only partly updated the vectors.

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Closes #2980
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  * Update remaining test vectors for Initial packets.

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md (28)

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<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #2980.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="483077812" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2980" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2980/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2980">#2980</a></p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: 4cedcf6bd5b948d5e41b344cb8dc6ed4bbea506e
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4cedcf6bd5b948d5e41b344cb8dc6ed4bbea506e
  Author: Rui Paulo <rpaulo@me.com>
  Date:   2019-08-20 (Tue, 20 Aug 2019)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  Update remaining test vectors for Initial packets.

Closes #2980


  Commit: b2a326444f35ee4f29b9ed53384ab58af55b3a29
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b2a326444f35ee4f29b9ed53384ab58af55b3a29
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2019-08-21 (Wed, 21 Aug 2019)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #2981 from rpaulo/update-remaining-vectors

Update remaining test vectors for Initial packets.


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/86bca1dc4f39...b2a326444f35


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> You do raise a good point about the ALPN dependency, however. That's a further complication to the QUIC/TLS interface: [...] The only way to avoid that complexity is to stop remembering the SETTINGS frame across 0-RTT.

I agree with you about the complexity of that, but I doubt giving up remembered settings in 0-RTT is a price we're willing to pay.  I feel like it's marginally better to have something post-handshake (NST) depend on the application (even if you get it during the handshake processing) than to have the transport parameters depend on application data.  We've currently been able to toe the line that nothing in the server's transport parameters depends on processing the client's transport parameters; ideally I'd consider that to include the rest of the Client Hello.

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<p>I agree with you about the complexity of that, but I doubt giving up remembered settings in 0-RTT is a price we're willing to pay.  I feel like it's marginally better to have something post-handshake (NST) depend on the application (even if you get it during the handshake processing) than to have the transport parameters depend on application data.  We've currently been able to toe the line that nothing in the server's transport parameters depends on processing the client's transport parameters; ideally I'd consider that to include the rest of the Client Hello.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/wg-materials
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      https://github.com/quicwg/wg-materials/commit/ba13b0422c3113942246e4b89ec8a4643f986860
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  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Add badge license

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martinthomson approved this pull request.

An alternative below.  But this is good either way.

> @@ -1340,9 +1340,9 @@ Different values for the same parameter can be advertised by each peer. For
 example, a client might be willing to consume a very large response header,
 while servers are more cautious about request size.
 
-Parameters MUST NOT occur more than once in the SETTINGS frame.  A receiver MAY
-treat the presence of the same parameter more than once as a connection error of
-type HTTP_SETTINGS_ERROR.
+Setting identifiers MUST NOT occur more than once in the SETTINGS frame.  A

```suggestion
The same setting identifier MUST NOT occur more than once in the SETTINGS frame.  A
```

> @@ -1340,9 +1340,9 @@ Different values for the same parameter can be advertised by each peer. For
 example, a client might be willing to consume a very large response header,
 while servers are more cautious about request size.
 
-Parameters MUST NOT occur more than once in the SETTINGS frame.  A receiver MAY
-treat the presence of the same parameter more than once as a connection error of
-type HTTP_SETTINGS_ERROR.
+Setting identifiers MUST NOT occur more than once in the SETTINGS frame.  A
+receiver MAY treat the presence of the same setting identifier more than once as

```suggestion
receiver MAY treat the presence of duplicate setting identifiers as
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Currently: "QUIC over TLS". 

Proposal: just remove the abbreviated title; the full title is short enough.

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<p>Currently: "QUIC over TLS".</p>
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Closes #2982.
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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2983

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  * Remove short title for TLS

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md (1)

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<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #2982.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="483293929" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2982" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2982/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2982">#2982</a>.</p>

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MikeBishop approved this pull request.

Looks fine to me, module the line length.

> @@ -1340,9 +1340,9 @@ Different values for the same parameter can be advertised by each peer. For
 example, a client might be willing to consume a very large response header,
 while servers are more cautious about request size.
 
-Parameters MUST NOT occur more than once in the SETTINGS frame.  A receiver MAY
-treat the presence of the same parameter more than once as a connection error of
-type HTTP_SETTINGS_ERROR.
+The same setting identifier MUST NOT occur more than once in the SETTINGS frame.  A

Need to rewrap to fix the build break, I think.

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<p>Looks fine to me, module the line length.</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2979#discussion_r316225670">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1340,9 +1340,9 @@ Different values for the same parameter can be advertised by each peer. For
 example, a client might be willing to consume a very large response header,
 while servers are more cautious about request size.
 
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9465c96c84dca99eb06671c749c41451121f5c3c  Reflow text.


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<p><a href="https://github.com/bencebeky" class="user-mention">@bencebeky</a> pushed 1 commit.</p>

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I went with "Default" because that and "Initial Value" now have specific, related (but distinct) usages in the context of pre-SETTINGS settings.  Swapping them seems like it would create unnecessary confusion.

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> @@ -381,6 +381,10 @@ certificate for the origin before considering it authoritative. Clients MUST NOT
 assume that an HTTP/3 endpoint is authoritative for other origins without an
 explicit signal.
 
+If the client intends to make requests for an origin containing a scheme other
+than "https", it MUST also obtain a valid `http-opportunistic` response for the

I think that this requirement only applies to the "http" scheme.  It would not apply to the "ni" scheme, for instance.

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<p><b>@martinthomson</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2973#discussion_r316452193">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -381,6 +381,10 @@ certificate for the origin before considering it authoritative. Clients MUST NOT
 assume that an HTTP/3 endpoint is authoritative for other origins without an
 explicit signal.
 
+If the client intends to make requests for an origin containing a scheme other
+than &quot;https&quot;, it MUST also obtain a valid `http-opportunistic` response for the
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<p>I think that this requirement only applies to the "http" scheme.  It would not apply to the "ni" scheme, for instance.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: ead0c395c378f46949a40c8c8af03444fe2bd51c
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ead0c395c378f46949a40c8c8af03444fe2bd51c
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2019-08-22 (Thu, 22 Aug 2019)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  Remove short title for TLS

Closes #2982.


  Commit: 7220bd2969d2c2a1f7d971fe5f0fbc9edb46788c
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7220bd2969d2c2a1f7d971fe5f0fbc9edb46788c
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2019-08-22 (Thu, 22 Aug 2019)

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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #2983 from quicwg/no-tls-short-title

Remove short title for TLS


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/b2a326444f35...7220bd2969d2


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> @@ -381,6 +381,10 @@ certificate for the origin before considering it authoritative. Clients MUST NOT
 assume that an HTTP/3 endpoint is authoritative for other origins without an
 explicit signal.
 
+If the client intends to make requests for an origin containing a scheme other
+than "https", it MUST also obtain a valid `http-opportunistic` response for the

I'm of split opinion on that.  On the one hand, "http-opportunistic" is defined for "http"; on the other hand, you still really want to know that the connection is capable of handling a non-https URI scheme before you send it.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2973#discussion_r316456277">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -381,6 +381,10 @@ certificate for the origin before considering it authoritative. Clients MUST NOT
 assume that an HTTP/3 endpoint is authoritative for other origins without an
 explicit signal.
 
+If the client intends to make requests for an origin containing a scheme other
+than &quot;https&quot;, it MUST also obtain a valid `http-opportunistic` response for the
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<p>I'm of split opinion on that.  On the one hand, "http-opportunistic" is defined for "http"; on the other hand, you still really want to know that the connection is capable of handling a non-https URI scheme before you send it.</p>

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> @@ -381,6 +381,10 @@ certificate for the origin before considering it authoritative. Clients MUST NOT
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+If the client intends to make requests for an origin containing a scheme other
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Yes, but the point of this is to point at a specific mechanism, which only applies to "http".  I'd be OK with leaving an impression that other protocols might need similar checks, that might be OK with me, but coming right out and saying that they definitely do is a bit of a big deal.

Saying that they have to use the HTTP mechanism is just wrong.  Part of the way in which that mechanism was designed was in response to HTTP-specific problems.  I'm sure that HTTP isn't unique in this regard, but it doesn't mean that you can't just start using "new-uri-scheme" without additional safeguards if that scheme was designed that way.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2973#discussion_r316463068">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -381,6 +381,10 @@ certificate for the origin before considering it authoritative. Clients MUST NOT
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 explicit signal.
 
+If the client intends to make requests for an origin containing a scheme other
+than &quot;https&quot;, it MUST also obtain a valid `http-opportunistic` response for the
</pre>
<p>Yes, but the point of this is to point at a specific mechanism, which only applies to "http".  I'd be OK with leaving an impression that other protocols might need similar checks, that might be OK with me, but coming right out and saying that they definitely do is a bit of a big deal.</p>
<p>Saying that they have to use the HTTP mechanism is just wrong.  Part of the way in which that mechanism was designed was in response to HTTP-specific problems.  I'm sure that HTTP isn't unique in this regard, but it doesn't mean that you can't just start using "new-uri-scheme" without additional safeguards if that scheme was designed that way.</p>

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The higher-order issue in my mind is that we don't have a general mechanism to do an "application handshake" as part of the crypto+transport handshake, which is a shame. If we had that, we might be able to use it simply for exchanging SETTINGS. We could add an application blob to the transport parameters (as proposed in #2958, but in both directions, listing one per ALPN) to provide this mechanism, but of course, it'll be in cleartext in the client->server direction.

#2958 resolves this encryption issue by having SETTINGS in transport parameters in the server->client direction and in a SETTINGS frame in the client->server direction, which is strange IMO. It generalizes one direction but leaves the other one specific to HTTP/3... it's not the asymmetry in the mechanisms that troubles me, it's the asymmetry in the generality of the mechanisms.

A future app may be able and willing to use cleartext transport params for its handshake, but I suspect having SETTINGS be in cleartext won't be agreeable to most (I'm less worried about QPACK, and more about future HTTP/2 and HTTP/3 extensions). Given that, I find myself wandering back to something that's basically what we have right now but with the normative additions in #2972.

@davidben @nharper: Do the normative additions in #2972 make the potential API complications simpler?

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<p>The higher-order issue in my mind is that we don't have a general mechanism to do an "application handshake" as part of the crypto+transport handshake, which is a shame. If we had that, we might be able to use it simply for exchanging SETTINGS. We could add an application blob to the transport parameters (as proposed in <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="478203140" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2958" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2958/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2958">#2958</a>, but in both directions, listing one per ALPN) to provide this mechanism, but of course, it'll be in cleartext in the client-&gt;server direction.</p>
<p><a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="478203140" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2958" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2958/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2958">#2958</a> resolves this encryption issue by having SETTINGS in transport parameters in the server-&gt;client direction and in a SETTINGS frame in the client-&gt;server direction, which is strange IMO. It generalizes one direction but leaves the other one specific to HTTP/3... it's not the asymmetry in the mechanisms that troubles me, it's the asymmetry in the generality of the mechanisms.</p>
<p>A future app may be able and willing to use cleartext transport params for its handshake, but I suspect having SETTINGS be in cleartext won't be agreeable to most (I'm less worried about QPACK, and more about future HTTP/2 and HTTP/3 extensions). Given that, I find myself wandering back to something that's basically what we have right now but with the normative additions in <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="481711771" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2972" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2972/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2972">#2972</a>.</p>
<p><a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/hovercards?user_id=109690" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/davidben">@davidben</a> <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/hovercards?user_id=653608" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/nharper">@nharper</a>: Do the normative additions in <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="481711771" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2972" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2972/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2972">#2972</a> make the potential API complications simpler?</p>

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davidben commented on this pull request.



>  initial value of each server setting is the value used in the previous session.
-Clients MUST store the settings the server provided in the session being resumed
-and MUST comply with stored settings until the current server settings are
-received.  A client can use these initial values to send requests before the
-server's SETTINGS frame has arrived.  This removes the need for a client to wait
-for the SETTINGS frame before sending requests.
+Clients SHOULD store the settings the server provided in the connection where
+resumption information was provided. A client MUST comply with either stored
+settings -- or default values, if no values are stored -- when attempting 0-RTT.
+Once a server has provided new settings, clients MUST comply with those values.

This does smooth over the worst of this mess, but since the ordering issue is not obvious, I think it's worth calling out explicitly that the client may choose not to store the settings if things were received in the wrong order.

>  
 A server can remember the settings that it advertised, or store an
 integrity-protected copy of the values in the ticket and recover the information
 when accepting 0-RTT data. A server uses the HTTP/3 settings values in
-determining whether to accept 0-RTT data.
+determining whether to accept 0-RTT data.  If the server cannot determine that
+the settings remembered by a client are compatible with its current settings, it
+MUST NOT accept 0-RTT data.  (Remembered settings are compatible if a client
+complying with those settings would not violate the server's current settings.)

(I expect our implementation will just require an exact byte-for-byte match. It saves adding a funny callback and I wouldn't expect the values to actually change much. Same for the QUIC transport parameters.)

>  
 A server MAY accept 0-RTT and subsequently provide different settings in its
 SETTINGS frame. If 0-RTT data is accepted by the server, its SETTINGS frame MUST
 NOT reduce any limits or alter any values that might be violated by the client
-with its 0-RTT data.  The server MAY omit settings from its SETTINGS frame which
-are unchanged from the initial value.
+with its 0-RTT data.  The server MUST include all settings which differ from
+their default values.

What should the client do if it sees the server reduce limits or otherwise alter values?
What if it sees the server do so implicitly by omitting a non-default setting that was previously set in the remembered SETTINGS frame?

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<p><b>@davidben</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2972#discussion_r316473570">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  initial value of each server setting is the value used in the previous session.
-Clients MUST store the settings the server provided in the session being resumed
-and MUST comply with stored settings until the current server settings are
-received.  A client can use these initial values to send requests before the
-server&#39;s SETTINGS frame has arrived.  This removes the need for a client to wait
-for the SETTINGS frame before sending requests.
+Clients SHOULD store the settings the server provided in the connection where
+resumption information was provided. A client MUST comply with either stored
+settings -- or default values, if no values are stored -- when attempting 0-RTT.
+Once a server has provided new settings, clients MUST comply with those values.
</pre>
<p>This does smooth over the worst of this mess, but since the ordering issue is not obvious, I think it's worth calling out explicitly that the client may choose not to store the settings if things were received in the wrong order.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2972#discussion_r316473764">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  
 A server can remember the settings that it advertised, or store an
 integrity-protected copy of the values in the ticket and recover the information
 when accepting 0-RTT data. A server uses the HTTP/3 settings values in
-determining whether to accept 0-RTT data.
+determining whether to accept 0-RTT data.  If the server cannot determine that
+the settings remembered by a client are compatible with its current settings, it
+MUST NOT accept 0-RTT data.  (Remembered settings are compatible if a client
+complying with those settings would not violate the server&#39;s current settings.)
</pre>
<p>(I expect our implementation will just require an exact byte-for-byte match. It saves adding a funny callback and I wouldn't expect the values to actually change much. Same for the QUIC transport parameters.)</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2972#discussion_r316473940">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  
 A server MAY accept 0-RTT and subsequently provide different settings in its
 SETTINGS frame. If 0-RTT data is accepted by the server, its SETTINGS frame MUST
 NOT reduce any limits or alter any values that might be violated by the client
-with its 0-RTT data.  The server MAY omit settings from its SETTINGS frame which
-are unchanged from the initial value.
+with its 0-RTT data.  The server MUST include all settings which differ from
+their default values.
</pre>
<p>What should the client do if it sees the server reduce limits or otherwise alter values?<br>
What if it sees the server do so implicitly by omitting a non-default setting that was previously set in the remembered SETTINGS frame?</p>

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>  
 A server can remember the settings that it advertised, or store an
 integrity-protected copy of the values in the ticket and recover the information
 when accepting 0-RTT data. A server uses the HTTP/3 settings values in
-determining whether to accept 0-RTT data.
+determining whether to accept 0-RTT data.  If the server cannot determine that
+the settings remembered by a client are compatible with its current settings, it
+MUST NOT accept 0-RTT data.  (Remembered settings are compatible if a client
+complying with those settings would not violate the server's current settings.)

Storing a version number in place of storing settings is entirely appropriate.

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<p><b>@martinthomson</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2972#discussion_r316475949">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  
 A server can remember the settings that it advertised, or store an
 integrity-protected copy of the values in the ticket and recover the information
 when accepting 0-RTT data. A server uses the HTTP/3 settings values in
-determining whether to accept 0-RTT data.
+determining whether to accept 0-RTT data.  If the server cannot determine that
+the settings remembered by a client are compatible with its current settings, it
+MUST NOT accept 0-RTT data.  (Remembered settings are compatible if a client
+complying with those settings would not violate the server&#39;s current settings.)
</pre>
<p>Storing a version number in place of storing settings is entirely appropriate.</p>

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I'm not sure I quite buy the generality argument. #2958 means the future app (as well as the current one!) can reliably get server parameters delivered before application data with no RTT cost. It's true that doesn't solve client parameters, but we otherwise solve *neither* direction. For HTTP and other client-speaks-(mostly)-first protocols, the server parameters are the ones where ordering is more sensitive anyway, so it makes sense to focus on it.

Anyway, #2972 isn't as clean as #2958, but it does at least address the showstopping portion of this issue.

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<p>I'm not sure I quite buy the generality argument. <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="478203140" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2958" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2958/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2958">#2958</a> means the future app (as well as the current one!) can reliably get server parameters delivered before application data with no RTT cost. It's true that doesn't solve client parameters, but we otherwise solve <em>neither</em> direction. For HTTP and other client-speaks-(mostly)-first protocols, the server parameters are the ones where ordering is more sensitive anyway, so it makes sense to focus on it.</p>
<p>Anyway, <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="481711771" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2972" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2972/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2972">#2972</a> isn't as clean as <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="478203140" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2958" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2958/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2958">#2958</a>, but it does at least address the showstopping portion of this issue.</p>

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>  
 A server can remember the settings that it advertised, or store an
 integrity-protected copy of the values in the ticket and recover the information
 when accepting 0-RTT data. A server uses the HTTP/3 settings values in
-determining whether to accept 0-RTT data.
+determining whether to accept 0-RTT data.  If the server cannot determine that
+the settings remembered by a client are compatible with its current settings, it
+MUST NOT accept 0-RTT data.  (Remembered settings are compatible if a client
+complying with those settings would not violate the server's current settings.)

Sure, that's a plausible optimization. Although that's orthogonal to whether you believe in equality or a weaker comparison.

(Whether the optimization is worth it, I'm not sure. The benefit is slightly smaller tickets. The cost is you need to make sure the meaning of your version number is consistent, which is a hidden sharp edge to deployment.)

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<p><b>@davidben</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2972#discussion_r316477208">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  
 A server can remember the settings that it advertised, or store an
 integrity-protected copy of the values in the ticket and recover the information
 when accepting 0-RTT data. A server uses the HTTP/3 settings values in
-determining whether to accept 0-RTT data.
+determining whether to accept 0-RTT data.  If the server cannot determine that
+the settings remembered by a client are compatible with its current settings, it
+MUST NOT accept 0-RTT data.  (Remembered settings are compatible if a client
+complying with those settings would not violate the server&#39;s current settings.)
</pre>
<p>Sure, that's a plausible optimization. Although that's orthogonal to whether you believe in equality or a weaker comparison.</p>
<p>(Whether the optimization is worth it, I'm not sure. The benefit is slightly smaller tickets. The cost is you need to make sure the meaning of your version number is consistent, which is a hidden sharp edge to deployment.)</p>

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Lets suppose that client sends HTTP/3 request in 0RTT, and server sends its response in Short packets and it consumes all available congestion window.
And somehow server Initial and/or Handshake are lost.  Client cannot send ACK for Short packet because it does not have 1RTT key.  Server cannot resend Initial/Handshake packet because congestion window is 0.
I think that I have to make Short packets lost and reclaim in_flight bytes.  But I'm not sure https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-recovery-22#appendix-A.9 covers this case.
It looks to me that unless pn_space becomes 1rtt pn space, no processing done for Short packets.

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<p>Lets suppose that client sends HTTP/3 request in 0RTT, and server sends its response in Short packets and it consumes all available congestion window.<br>
And somehow server Initial and/or Handshake are lost.  Client cannot send ACK for Short packet because it does not have 1RTT key.  Server cannot resend Initial/Handshake packet because congestion window is 0.<br>
I think that I have to make Short packets lost and reclaim in_flight bytes.  But I'm not sure <a href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-recovery-22#appendix-A.9" rel="nofollow">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-recovery-22#appendix-A.9</a> covers this case.<br>
It looks to me that unless pn_space becomes 1rtt pn space, no processing done for Short packets.</p>

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> @@ -381,6 +381,10 @@ certificate for the origin before considering it authoritative. Clients MUST NOT
 assume that an HTTP/3 endpoint is authoritative for other origins without an
 explicit signal.
 
+If the client intends to make requests for an origin containing a scheme other
+than "https", it MUST also obtain a valid `http-opportunistic` response for the

I agree to what @martinthomson says. Unrelated and yet related I just fought (and lost) the Google Layer 7 load balancer because it insisted doing http health checks on a port that speaks websockets but does not serve http pages on the same port. In my case a tcp health check would have worked, but the point is that assuming that everything is http is not good.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2973#discussion_r316539631">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -381,6 +381,10 @@ certificate for the origin before considering it authoritative. Clients MUST NOT
 assume that an HTTP/3 endpoint is authoritative for other origins without an
 explicit signal.
 
+If the client intends to make requests for an origin containing a scheme other
+than &quot;https&quot;, it MUST also obtain a valid `http-opportunistic` response for the
</pre>
<p>I agree to what <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/hovercards?user_id=67641" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/martinthomson">@martinthomson</a> says. Unrelated and yet related I just fought (and lost) the Google Layer 7 load balancer because it insisted doing http health checks on a port that speaks websockets but does not serve http pages on the same port. In my case a tcp health check would have worked, but the point is that assuming that everything is http is not good.</p>

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If I understand correctly, the retransmissions would be sent when the PTO timer fires in this case, and therefore are probe packets. As such, they're not blocked by the congestion controller.

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<p>If I understand correctly, the retransmissions would be sent when the PTO timer fires in this case, and therefore are probe packets. As such, they're not blocked by the congestion controller.</p>

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According to the pseudo code in A-9, PTO does not fire if endpoint has unacknowledged crypto data.

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<p>According to the pseudo code in A-9, PTO does not fire if endpoint has unacknowledged crypto data.</p>

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MikeBishop commented on this pull request.



>  
 A server MAY accept 0-RTT and subsequently provide different settings in its
 SETTINGS frame. If 0-RTT data is accepted by the server, its SETTINGS frame MUST
 NOT reduce any limits or alter any values that might be violated by the client
-with its 0-RTT data.  The server MAY omit settings from its SETTINGS frame which
-are unchanged from the initial value.
+with its 0-RTT data.  The server MUST include all settings which differ from
+their default values.

Good point.  We currently don't require clients to police that, but it falls in the bucket of trivially-detectable protocol violations.

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<p><b>@MikeBishop</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2972#discussion_r316723156">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  
 A server MAY accept 0-RTT and subsequently provide different settings in its
 SETTINGS frame. If 0-RTT data is accepted by the server, its SETTINGS frame MUST
 NOT reduce any limits or alter any values that might be violated by the client
-with its 0-RTT data.  The server MAY omit settings from its SETTINGS frame which
-are unchanged from the initial value.
+with its 0-RTT data.  The server MUST include all settings which differ from
+their default values.
</pre>
<p>Good point.  We currently don't require clients to police that, but it falls in the bucket of trivially-detectable protocol violations.</p>

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I think I'd like to take a two-pronged approach, then.  For now, let's merge #2972 once folks think it's ready.  Let's separately have a discussion about whether and how transport should provide this capability; if we decide to add such a capability to QUIC, HTTP can use it.

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<p>I think I'd like to take a two-pronged approach, then.  For now, let's merge <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="481711771" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2972" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2972/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2972">#2972</a> once folks think it's ready.  Let's separately have a discussion about whether and how transport should provide this capability; if we decide to add such a capability to QUIC, HTTP can use it.</p>

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Yeah that makes sense on a reread of section 7.2.5.2

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<p>Yeah that makes sense on a reread of section 7.2.5.2</p>

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> Extensions that could change the semantics of existing protocol components MUST be negotiated before being used. For example, an extension that changes the layout of the HEADERS frame cannot be used until the peer has given a positive signal that this is acceptable. **In this case, it could also be necessary to coordinate when the revised layout comes into effect.**

Unlike HTTP/2, HTTP/3 has no indication when the peer has received and processed SETTINGS.  This means that any extension which redefines a basic protocol element (e.g. HEADERS uses something other than QPACK or uses a different static table; PRIORITY frames should be interpreted differently) has to define its own coordination mechanism -- and that coordination mechanism will be unwieldy (see #84).

#2958 would give the necessary ordering for server settings -- they are effective for all server data -- but would only make sense if one side considered the other's SETTINGS prior to sending its own.  The server cannot do this in the current scheme or in #2958 for 1-RTT connections.

Should we simply remove the misleading suggestions that elements of the mapping can be redefined, pointing people instead to creating replacement frames (HEADERS2, PRIORITYEX, etc.)?  Or is the verbiage here that you're on your own to coordinate that switch sufficient hard-hat warning?

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<p>Extensions that could change the semantics of existing protocol compon=
ents MUST be negotiated before being used. For example, an extension that=
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s given a positive signal that this is acceptable. <strong>In this case, =
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to effect.</strong></p>
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<p>Unlike HTTP/2, HTTP/3 has no indication when the peer has received and=
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ic protocol element (e.g. HEADERS uses something other than QPACK or uses=
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Thanks for filing another issue @MikeBishop 

I think that's a good approach.  The current text is insufficient and/or incorrect and we should fix it.  Your PR does that.  But I think we should continue this discussion.

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<p>Thanks for filing another issue <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/hovercards?user_id=4273797" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/MikeBishop">@MikeBishop</a></p>
<p>I think that's a good approach.  The current text is insufficient and/or incorrect and we should fix it.  Your PR does that.  But I think we should continue this discussion.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/http/8164
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  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2019-08-22 (Thu, 22 Aug 2019)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md

  Log Message:
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  8164 is specific, but the requirement is generic



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ed68fdf589cb8ffd2148759410bdac3e51cf4539  8164 is specific, but the requirement is generic


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> @@ -381,6 +381,10 @@ certificate for the origin before considering it authoritative. Clients MUST NOT
 assume that an HTTP/3 endpoint is authoritative for other origins without an
 explicit signal.
 
+If the client intends to make requests for an origin containing a scheme other
+than "https", it MUST also obtain a valid `http-opportunistic` response for the

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<p><b>@MikeBishop</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2973#discussion_r316745333">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -381,6 +381,10 @@ certificate for the origin before considering it authoritative. Clients MUST NOT
 assume that an HTTP/3 endpoint is authoritative for other origins without an
 explicit signal.
 
+If the client intends to make requests for an origin containing a scheme other
+than &quot;https&quot;, it MUST also obtain a valid `http-opportunistic` response for the
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Thanks for creating this issue. 

I don't think using extension frames completely solves the problem because of the risks of changing the core behaviour so dramatically without endpoint coordination. For example, a client that sends requests only using HEADERS2 would need to wait for a HEADERS2 response before deciding that the extension is supported? That's a pretty big gamble to make.

Given the challenge to design a solution and the reality that we don't need one right now (but that we are chartered to allow H2-like extension mechanisms) I'd be inclined to say remove the specific example and summarise that these components mean frames, unidirectional stream types, request/response message exchanges etc.



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<p>Thanks for creating this issue.</p>
<p>I don't think using extension frames completely solves the problem because of the risks of changing the core behaviour so dramatically without endpoint coordination. For example, a client that sends requests only using HEADERS2 would need to wait for a HEADERS2 response before deciding that the extension is supported? That's a pretty big gamble to make.</p>
<p>Given the challenge to design a solution and the reality that we don't need one right now (but that we are chartered to allow H2-like extension mechanisms) I'd be inclined to say remove the specific example and summarise that these components mean frames, unidirectional stream types, request/response message exchanges etc.</p>

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I think what a client would do is send HEADERS until it sees the SETTINGS frame and discovers it can use HEADERS2 from now on, including in 0-RTT in the future.  No gamble involved, but the server has to continue to support the "old" elements as well.

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<p>I think what a client would do is send HEADERS until it sees the SETTINGS frame and discovers it can use HEADERS2 from now on, including in 0-RTT in the future.  No gamble involved, but the server has to continue to support the "old" elements as well.</p>

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I think @janaiyengar frames this issue well, that we don't currently have an application handshake embedded in the crypto+transport handshake. #2958 is close to providing a general mechanism for an application handshake embedded in the crypto+transport handshake. The change necessary to that PR to provide all of the application handshake would be to allow specifying different application_layer_parameters for different alpns. The caveat is that the client-sent application layer params are sent in the clear, but this might not be an issue. (For example, transport params are sent in the clear by the client even though they could be delayed a round-trip to have them encrypted, and an application could make the analysis that the client-sent part of its handshake is not sensitive information that needs to be encrypted because it is similar to transport params.)

Since the application handshake mechanism in #2958 doesn't impose any restrictions on how the application uses it, we can use it in H3 only for the server->client direction. Having just half of the embedded application handshake seems better than not using it at all. In addition to the benefits for #2790, sending the server's SETTINGS in the handshake means both sides can know that it comes before any server-sent application data (and before client-sent application data on non 0-RTT connections).

Regardless of the outcome on this issue, I think #2972 to send complete SETTINGS instead of only the ones that have changed is a good idea, and we can merge that one while still figuring out what to do here.

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n't currently have an application handshake embedded in the crypto+transp=
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ke. The change necessary to that PR to provide all of the application han=
dshake would be to allow specifying different application_layer_parameter=
s for different alpns. The caveat is that the client-sent application lay=
er params are sent in the clear, but this might not be an issue. (For exa=
mple, transport params are sent in the clear by the client even though th=
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on could make the analysis that the client-sent part of its handshake is =
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>From discussion on #2945, this will merge soon.  (I have marked it not to close #2958.)  If there's additional feedback, please give it now.

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@MikeBishop I would appreciate it if you could consider adopting the proposed change in https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2972#issuecomment-522808046 (i.e., https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5fadbbbff7a5e566a2c951376be7999aca2c7edb), as I believe it is a clarification of status quo.

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nharper commented on this pull request.



> @@ -279,13 +279,14 @@ components:
 protection being called out specially.
 
 ~~~
-+------------+                        +------------+
-|            |<- Handshake Messages ->|            |
-|            |<---- 0-RTT Keys -------|            |
-|            |<--- Handshake Keys-----|            |
-|   QUIC     |<---- 1-RTT Keys -------|    TLS     |
-|            |<--- Handshake Done ----|            |
-+------------+                        +------------+
++------------+                               +------------+
+|            |<---- Handshake Messages ----->|            |
+|            |<- Validate 0-RTT parameters ->|            |
+|            |<--------- 0-RTT Keys ---------|            |
+|            |<------- Handshake Keys -------|            |
+|   QUIC     |<--------- 1-RTT Keys ---------|    TLS     |

Moved up a line, and moved QUIC right one column.

> @@ -629,6 +632,24 @@ A client MAY attempt to send 0-RTT again if it receives a Retry or Version
 Negotiation packet.  These packets do not signify rejection of 0-RTT.
 
 
+## Validating saved 0-RTT state
+
+When a server receives a ClientHello with the "early_data" extension, it has to
+decide whether to accept or reject early data from the client. Some of this
+decision is made by the TLS stack (e.g. checking that the cipher suite being
+resumed was included in the ClientHello; see Section 4.2.10 of {{!TLS13}}). QUIC
+saves additional transport and application state in a 0-RTT session ticket, and

I think we're trying to say the same things, just in different ways. My mention of saving state was assuming stateless session tickets; now it describes that servers must associate transport/application configuration with the TLS session ticket in addition to mentioning storing state in stateless session tickets.

I've rewritten most of this paragraph incorporating some of your language here. My overall goal of this section is to describe the features that a TLS stack needs to provide for QUIC (without prescribing API design).

> @@ -629,6 +632,24 @@ A client MAY attempt to send 0-RTT again if it receives a Retry or Version
 Negotiation packet.  These packets do not signify rejection of 0-RTT.
 
 
+## Validating saved 0-RTT state

Done.

> @@ -629,6 +632,24 @@ A client MAY attempt to send 0-RTT again if it receives a Retry or Version
 Negotiation packet.  These packets do not signify rejection of 0-RTT.
 
 
+## Validating saved 0-RTT state
+
+When a server receives a ClientHello with the "early_data" extension, it has to
+decide whether to accept or reject early data from the client. Some of this
+decision is made by the TLS stack (e.g. checking that the cipher suite being

Done.

> +## Validating saved 0-RTT state
+
+When a server receives a ClientHello with the "early_data" extension, it has to
+decide whether to accept or reject early data from the client. Some of this
+decision is made by the TLS stack (e.g. checking that the cipher suite being
+resumed was included in the ClientHello; see Section 4.2.10 of {{!TLS13}}). QUIC
+saves additional transport and application state in a 0-RTT session ticket, and
+imposes additional restrictions on when a server may accept early data. The TLS
+stack needs to check with the QUIC stack whether this saved state is valid for
+accepting early data.
+
+One example of such state that the QUIC stack checks when deciding whether or
+not to accept early data is the transport parameters extension. When HTTP/3
+({{QUIC-HTTP}}) is used at the application layer, the SETTINGS frame from the
+previous session is another such example. This list is not intended to be
+exhaustive; future applications using QUIC may impose different restrictions.

I incorporated similar language into the new/rewritten paragraph.

> @@ -629,6 +632,24 @@ A client MAY attempt to send 0-RTT again if it receives a Retry or Version
 Negotiation packet.  These packets do not signify rejection of 0-RTT.
 
 
+## Validating saved 0-RTT state
+
+When a server receives a ClientHello with the "early_data" extension, it has to
+decide whether to accept or reject early data from the client. Some of this
+decision is made by the TLS stack (e.g. checking that the cipher suite being
+resumed was included in the ClientHello; see Section 4.2.10 of {{!TLS13}}). QUIC
+saves additional transport and application state in a 0-RTT session ticket, and
+imposes additional restrictions on when a server may accept early data. The TLS
+stack needs to check with the QUIC stack whether this saved state is valid for
+accepting early data.
+
+One example of such state that the QUIC stack checks when deciding whether or
+not to accept early data is the transport parameters extension. When HTTP/3

I removed the mention of transport parameters specifically here, and rewrote this paragraph. My intention is to be vague so someone modifying a TLS stack to support QUIC doesn't say "let me check that transport params are compatible in the TLS stack, and then I'm done and don't need to provide a way for QUIC to reject early data", and instead actually delegates this decision to QUIC.

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<p><b>@nharper</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2947#discussion_r315394170">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -279,13 +279,14 @@ components:
 protection being called out specially.
 
 ~~~
-+------------+                        +------------+
-|            |&lt;- Handshake Messages -&gt;|            |
-|            |&lt;---- 0-RTT Keys -------|            |
-|            |&lt;--- Handshake Keys-----|            |
-|   QUIC     |&lt;---- 1-RTT Keys -------|    TLS     |
-|            |&lt;--- Handshake Done ----|            |
-+------------+                        +------------+
++------------+                               +------------+
+|            |&lt;---- Handshake Messages -----&gt;|            |
+|            |&lt;- Validate 0-RTT parameters -&gt;|            |
+|            |&lt;--------- 0-RTT Keys ---------|            |
+|            |&lt;------- Handshake Keys -------|            |
+|   QUIC     |&lt;--------- 1-RTT Keys ---------|    TLS     |
</pre>
<p>Moved up a line, and moved QUIC right one column.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2947#discussion_r315472309">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -629,6 +632,24 @@ A client MAY attempt to send 0-RTT again if it receives a Retry or Version
 Negotiation packet.  These packets do not signify rejection of 0-RTT.
 
 
+## Validating saved 0-RTT state
+
+When a server receives a ClientHello with the &quot;early_data&quot; extension, it has to
+decide whether to accept or reject early data from the client. Some of this
+decision is made by the TLS stack (e.g. checking that the cipher suite being
+resumed was included in the ClientHello; see Section 4.2.10 of {{!TLS13}}). QUIC
+saves additional transport and application state in a 0-RTT session ticket, and
</pre>
<p>I think we're trying to say the same things, just in different ways. My mention of saving state was assuming stateless session tickets; now it describes that servers must associate transport/application configuration with the TLS session ticket in addition to mentioning storing state in stateless session tickets.</p>
<p>I've rewritten most of this paragraph incorporating some of your language here. My overall goal of this section is to describe the features that a TLS stack needs to provide for QUIC (without prescribing API design).</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2947#discussion_r316920899">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -629,6 +632,24 @@ A client MAY attempt to send 0-RTT again if it receives a Retry or Version
 Negotiation packet.  These packets do not signify rejection of 0-RTT.
 
 
+## Validating saved 0-RTT state
</pre>
<p>Done.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2947#discussion_r316920920">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -629,6 +632,24 @@ A client MAY attempt to send 0-RTT again if it receives a Retry or Version
 Negotiation packet.  These packets do not signify rejection of 0-RTT.
 
 
+## Validating saved 0-RTT state
+
+When a server receives a ClientHello with the &quot;early_data&quot; extension, it has to
+decide whether to accept or reject early data from the client. Some of this
+decision is made by the TLS stack (e.g. checking that the cipher suite being
</pre>
<p>Done.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2947#discussion_r316922768">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +## Validating saved 0-RTT state
+
+When a server receives a ClientHello with the &quot;early_data&quot; extension, it has to
+decide whether to accept or reject early data from the client. Some of this
+decision is made by the TLS stack (e.g. checking that the cipher suite being
+resumed was included in the ClientHello; see Section 4.2.10 of {{!TLS13}}). QUIC
+saves additional transport and application state in a 0-RTT session ticket, and
+imposes additional restrictions on when a server may accept early data. The TLS
+stack needs to check with the QUIC stack whether this saved state is valid for
+accepting early data.
+
+One example of such state that the QUIC stack checks when deciding whether or
+not to accept early data is the transport parameters extension. When HTTP/3
+({{QUIC-HTTP}}) is used at the application layer, the SETTINGS frame from the
+previous session is another such example. This list is not intended to be
+exhaustive; future applications using QUIC may impose different restrictions.
</pre>
<p>I incorporated similar language into the new/rewritten paragraph.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2947#discussion_r316923152">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -629,6 +632,24 @@ A client MAY attempt to send 0-RTT again if it receives a Retry or Version
 Negotiation packet.  These packets do not signify rejection of 0-RTT.
 
 
+## Validating saved 0-RTT state
+
+When a server receives a ClientHello with the &quot;early_data&quot; extension, it has to
+decide whether to accept or reject early data from the client. Some of this
+decision is made by the TLS stack (e.g. checking that the cipher suite being
+resumed was included in the ClientHello; see Section 4.2.10 of {{!TLS13}}). QUIC
+saves additional transport and application state in a 0-RTT session ticket, and
+imposes additional restrictions on when a server may accept early data. The TLS
+stack needs to check with the QUIC stack whether this saved state is valid for
+accepting early data.
+
+One example of such state that the QUIC stack checks when deciding whether or
+not to accept early data is the transport parameters extension. When HTTP/3
</pre>
<p>I removed the mention of transport parameters specifically here, and rewrote this paragraph. My intention is to be vague so someone modifying a TLS stack to support QUIC doesn't say "let me check that transport params are compatible in the TLS stack, and then I'm done and don't need to provide a way for QUIC to reject early data", and instead actually delegates this decision to QUIC.</p>

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Yes, that is how I would do it.  The idea would be that once you advertise support for HEADERS2, you could receive one at any time, but you might still receive the old version for an indefinite period.  You probably shouldn't even rely on seeing an ACK for the SETTINGS frame bits.

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<p>Yes, that is how I would do it.  The idea would be that once you advertise support for HEADERS2, you could receive one at any time, but you might still receive the old version for an indefinite period.  You probably shouldn't even rely on seeing an ACK for the SETTINGS frame bits.</p>

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I don't get this latter part of the sentence.  I think that we should mandate, with a "MUST", that endpoints not wait for a peer's SETTINGS frame before sending their own.

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<p>I don't get this latter part of the sentence.  I think that we should mandate, with a "MUST", that endpoints not wait for a peer's SETTINGS frame before sending their own.</p>

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martinthomson approved this pull request.

Assuming you take my suggestions, this is good.

>  primary functions:
 
 - Sending and receiving handshake messages
+- Processing stored transport and application state from a 0-RTT capable session
+  ticket and determining if it is valid to accept early data on the connection

```suggestion
  and determining if it is valid to accept early data
```

>  primary functions:
 
 - Sending and receiving handshake messages
+- Processing stored transport and application state from a 0-RTT capable session

s/0-RTT capable session ticket/resumed session/

```suggestion
- Processing stored transport and application state from a resumed session
```

As before with the mention of tickets; and early data is already covered.

> @@ -644,6 +647,27 @@ A client MAY attempt to send 0-RTT again if it receives a Retry or Version
 Negotiation packet.  These packets do not signify rejection of 0-RTT.
 
 
+## Validating 0-RTT configuration

```suggestion
## Validating 0-RTT Configuration
```

> +When a server receives a ClientHello with the "early_data" extension, it has to
+decide whether to accept or reject early data from the client. Some of this
+decision is made by the TLS stack (e.g., checking that the cipher suite being
+resumed was included in the ClientHello; see Section 4.2.10 of {{!TLS13}}). Even
+when the TLS stack has no reason to reject early data, the QUIC stack or the
+application protocol using QUIC might reject early data because the
+configuration of the transport or application associated with the resumed
+session is not compatible with the server's current configuration.
+
+QUIC requires additional transport state to be associated with a 0-RTT session
+ticket. If stateless session tickets are used, this information must be stored
+in the session ticket. Application protocols that use QUIC might have similar
+requirements regarding associating or storing state. This associated state is
+used for deciding whether early data must be rejected. For example, HTTP/3
+({{QUIC-HTTP}}) settings determine how early data from the client is
+interpreted. Other applications using QUIC could have different requiremenets

```suggestion
interpreted. Other applications using QUIC could have different requirements
```

> +decide whether to accept or reject early data from the client. Some of this
+decision is made by the TLS stack (e.g., checking that the cipher suite being
+resumed was included in the ClientHello; see Section 4.2.10 of {{!TLS13}}). Even
+when the TLS stack has no reason to reject early data, the QUIC stack or the
+application protocol using QUIC might reject early data because the
+configuration of the transport or application associated with the resumed
+session is not compatible with the server's current configuration.
+
+QUIC requires additional transport state to be associated with a 0-RTT session
+ticket. If stateless session tickets are used, this information must be stored
+in the session ticket. Application protocols that use QUIC might have similar
+requirements regarding associating or storing state. This associated state is
+used for deciding whether early data must be rejected. For example, HTTP/3
+({{QUIC-HTTP}}) settings determine how early data from the client is
+interpreted. Other applications using QUIC could have different requiremenets
+for determining whether ot accept or reject early data.

```suggestion
for determining whether to accept or reject early data.
```

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<p><b>@martinthomson</b> approved this pull request.</p>=0D
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A pull request against #2972, that tries to resolve the *original* issue raised in #2945.
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  * explain that and endpoint cannot expect the delivery of the peer's settings
  * "SHOULD NOT", with a less extreme example used as clarification

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    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (12)

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<p>A pull request against <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="481711771" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2972" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2972/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2972">#2972</a>, that tries to resolve the <em>original</em> issue raised in <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="475432278" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2945" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2945/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2945">#2945</a>.</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>explain that and endpoint cannot expect the delivery of the peer&#39;s settings</li>
  <li>&quot;SHOULD NOT&quot;, with a less extreme example used as clarification</li>
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    <strong>M</strong>
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  <li><a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2986.diff'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2986.diff</a></li>
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In response to https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5fadbbbff7a5e566a2c951376be7999aca2c7edb#r34801559 by @martinthomson:
> I don't get this latter part of the sentence. I think that we should mandate, with a "MUST", that endpoints not wait for a peer's SETTINGS frame before sending their own.

I am fine with using a keyword here. Though I'd argue that it does not need to be a MUST if an endpoint can assume that SETTINGS would arrive eventually (assuming that the endpoint would not send MAX_STREAMS or MAX_STREAM_DATA that might allow the peer to prioritize transmission of other streams).

Therefore I've gone with SHOULD NOT, using a less extreme example. To paraphrase, we are essentially forbidding an endpoint behave as described in https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2986/commits/dc7f6041fbae53e06e1875a1df561388e44156b2 (the example that you didn't get).

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<p>In response to <a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5fadbbbff7a5e566a2c951376be7999aca2c7edb#r34801559"><tt>5fadbbb</tt>#r34801559</a> by <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/hovercards?user_id=67641" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/martinthomson">@martinthomson</a>:</p>
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<p>I don't get this latter part of the sentence. I think that we should mandate, with a "MUST", that endpoints not wait for a peer's SETTINGS frame before sending their own.</p>
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<p>I am fine with using a keyword here. Though I'd argue that it does not need to be a MUST if an endpoint can assume that SETTINGS would arrive eventually (assuming that the endpoint would not send MAX_STREAMS or MAX_STREAM_DATA that might allow the peer to prioritize transmission of other streams).</p>
<p>Therefore I've gone with SHOULD NOT, using a less extreme example. To paraphrase, we are essentially forbidding an endpoint behave as described in <a class="commit-link" data-hovercard-type="commit" data-hovercard-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/dc7f6041fbae53e06e1875a1df561388e44156b2/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/dc7f6041fbae53e06e1875a1df561388e44156b2"><tt>dc7f604</tt></a> (the example that you didn't get).</p>

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In the editor's draft, PTO replaces the handshake timer, TLP and RTO.  In the current editor's draft, it's armed until the client has 1-RTT keys.  So the client must retransmit something in Initial or Handshake encryption levels to move the handshake along.

Given that, I'm unclear on what the issue is?

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<p>In the editor's draft, PTO replaces the handshake timer, TLP and RTO.  In the current editor's draft, it's armed until the client has 1-RTT keys.  So the client must retransmit something in Initial or Handshake encryption levels to move the handshake along.</p>
<p>Given that, I'm unclear on what the issue is?</p>

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martinthomson commented on this pull request.

I'm a little concerned about the standoff this permits, but otherwise, I think that this is a good change.

> @@ -2159,6 +2159,12 @@ the settings identifier space in HTTP/3 is substantially larger (62 bits versus
 16 bits), so many HTTP/3 settings have no equivalent HTTP/2 code point. See
 {{iana-settings}}.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD NOT wait for the peer's settings to arrive before responding
+to other streams, as it cannot assume the peer's settings to arrive in a timely
+manner.  This is because the packet carrying the settings can be lost, or the

The problem here is that if both endpoints wait for settings from a peer, we have a situation where SETTINGS never gets sent.  If both peers decide to wait, then they wait forever.

Sorry, I wasn't clear that this was the concern in my other comment.

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<p><b>@martinthomson</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<p>I'm a little concerned about the standoff this permits, but otherwise, I think that this is a good change.</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2986#discussion_r316953545">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -2159,6 +2159,12 @@ the settings identifier space in HTTP/3 is substantially larger (62 bits versus
 16 bits), so many HTTP/3 settings have no equivalent HTTP/2 code point. See
 {{iana-settings}}.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD NOT wait for the peer&#39;s settings to arrive before responding
+to other streams, as it cannot assume the peer&#39;s settings to arrive in a timely
+manner.  This is because the packet carrying the settings can be lost, or the
</pre>
<p>The problem here is that if both endpoints wait for settings from a peer, we have a situation where SETTINGS never gets sent.  If both peers decide to wait, then they wait forever.</p>
<p>Sorry, I wasn't clear that this was the concern in my other comment.</p>

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> @@ -2159,6 +2159,12 @@ the settings identifier space in HTTP/3 is substantially larger (62 bits versus
 16 bits), so many HTTP/3 settings have no equivalent HTTP/2 code point. See
 {{iana-settings}}.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD NOT wait for the peer's settings to arrive before responding
+to other streams, as it cannot assume the peer's settings to arrive in a timely
+manner.  This is because the packet carrying the settings can be lost, or the

Thank you for the clarification.

That's a good point, I agree that it's worth clarifying, so done in 4664b5c. I've added that to the main section, as that is the property that has *not* changed from HTTP/2.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2986#discussion_r316960820">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -2159,6 +2159,12 @@ the settings identifier space in HTTP/3 is substantially larger (62 bits versus
 16 bits), so many HTTP/3 settings have no equivalent HTTP/2 code point. See
 {{iana-settings}}.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD NOT wait for the peer&#39;s settings to arrive before responding
+to other streams, as it cannot assume the peer&#39;s settings to arrive in a timely
+manner.  This is because the packet carrying the settings can be lost, or the
</pre>
<p>Thank you for the clarification.</p>
<p>That's a good point, I agree that it's worth clarifying, so done in <a class="commit-link" data-hovercard-type="commit" data-hovercard-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4664b5c90834fce8e0affffcf66d697ddee2d3f7/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4664b5c90834fce8e0affffcf66d697ddee2d3f7"><tt>4664b5c</tt></a>. I've added that to the main section, as that is the property that has <em>not</em> changed from HTTP/2.</p>

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Thank you for replies.  The issue is against draft-22, and I haven't checked editor's copy.
At this point, I realized that this issue is a duplicate of #2779.  .5RTT response just accelerates the issue.  The root cause is that we cannot declare handshake packets lost in the draft-22.  If it is fixed in editor's copy then you can close #2779 as well.

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<p>Thank you for replies.  The issue is against draft-22, and I haven't checked editor's copy.<br>
At this point, I realized that this issue is a duplicate of <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="454060418" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2779" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2779/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2779">#2779</a>.  .5RTT response just accelerates the issue.  The root cause is that we cannot declare handshake packets lost in the draft-22.  If it is fixed in editor's copy then you can close <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="454060418" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2779" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2779/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2779">#2779</a> as well.</p>

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As discussed on #2984, this is fixed in the editor's copy.

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<p>As discussed on <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="483794807" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2984" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2984/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2984">#2984</a>, this is fixed in the editor's copy.</p>

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@kazuho, I was attempting to respond to that comment with this text, already in the PR:
> Endpoints MUST NOT require any data to be received from the peer prior to
sending the SETTINGS frame; settings SHOULD be sent as soon as the transport is
ready to send data.

This seems to mirror the current state of #2986.

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<p><a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/hovercards?user_id=41567" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/kazuho">@kazuho</a>, I was attempting to respond to that comment with this text, already in the PR:</p>
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<p>Endpoints MUST NOT require any data to be received from the peer prior to<br>
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ianswett commented on this pull request.



> @@ -581,13 +581,13 @@ data.  If no data can be sent, then the PTO alarm MUST NOT be armed until
 data has been received from the client.
 
 Because the server could be blocked until more packets are received, the client
-MUST ensure that the retransmission timer is set if the client does not yet
-have 1-RTT keys.  If the probe timer expires before the client has 1-RTT keys,
-it is possible that the client may not have any crypto data to retransmit.
-However, the client MUST send a new packet, containing only PADDING frames if
-necessary, to allow the server to continue sending data. If Handshake keys
-are available to the client, it MUST send a Handshake packet, and otherwise
-it MUST send an Initial packet in a UDP datagram of at least 1200 bytes.
+MUST ensure that the retransmission timer is set if the client has not received
+an ACK in a Handshake packet or does not yet have 1-RTT keys.  If the probe

I think Martin's right, this should be 'and', since if the client has 1-RTT keys and has nothing to send at lower encryption levels, 

But now that I write that out, would it be better to say "received an ACK in a Handshake or 1-RTT packet."?

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<p><b>@ianswett</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2907#discussion_r317152240">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -581,13 +581,13 @@ data.  If no data can be sent, then the PTO alarm MUST NOT be armed until
 data has been received from the client.
 
 Because the server could be blocked until more packets are received, the client
-MUST ensure that the retransmission timer is set if the client does not yet
-have 1-RTT keys.  If the probe timer expires before the client has 1-RTT keys,
-it is possible that the client may not have any crypto data to retransmit.
-However, the client MUST send a new packet, containing only PADDING frames if
-necessary, to allow the server to continue sending data. If Handshake keys
-are available to the client, it MUST send a Handshake packet, and otherwise
-it MUST send an Initial packet in a UDP datagram of at least 1200 bytes.
+MUST ensure that the retransmission timer is set if the client has not received
+an ACK in a Handshake packet or does not yet have 1-RTT keys.  If the probe
</pre>
<p>I think Martin's right, this should be 'and', since if the client has 1-RTT keys and has nothing to send at lower encryption levels,</p>
<p>But now that I write that out, would it be better to say "received an ACK in a Handshake or 1-RTT packet."?</p>

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> @@ -1330,11 +1330,13 @@ If an endpoint receives a SETTINGS frame on a different stream, the endpoint
 MUST respond with a connection error of type HTTP_WRONG_STREAM.
 
 SETTINGS parameters are not negotiated; they describe characteristics of the
-sending peer, which can be used by the receiving peer. However, a negotiation
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-set of supported values. The definition of the setting would describe how each
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-not provide a mechanism to identify when the choice takes effect.
+sending peer, which can be used by the receiving peer. An endpoint MUST NOT wait
+for the peer's SETTINGS frame to arrive before sending it's own SETTINGS frame.

This seems to duplicate the text at 1401-1403 (your version) / 1399-1401 (current PR).  Is there a reason it needs to be in two places, or was there a problem with the wording?

> @@ -2159,6 +2161,12 @@ the settings identifier space in HTTP/3 is substantially larger (62 bits versus
 16 bits), so many HTTP/3 settings have no equivalent HTTP/2 code point. See
 {{iana-settings}}.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD NOT wait for the peer's settings to arrive before responding

This appendix is informative; we shouldn't have 2119 requirements here.  (Besides, this is already covered by "Each endpoint MAY use these initial values to send messages before the peer's SETTINGS frame has arrived." on line 1396 / 1394.)  This is a difference from HTTP/2, so it's not unreasonable to mention here, though.

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<p><b>@MikeBishop</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2986#discussion_r317150162">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1330,11 +1330,13 @@ If an endpoint receives a SETTINGS frame on a different stream, the endpoint
 MUST respond with a connection error of type HTTP_WRONG_STREAM.
 
 SETTINGS parameters are not negotiated; they describe characteristics of the
-sending peer, which can be used by the receiving peer. However, a negotiation
-can be implied by the use of SETTINGS - each peer uses SETTINGS to advertise a
-set of supported values. The definition of the setting would describe how each
-peer combines the two sets to conclude which choice will be used.  SETTINGS does
-not provide a mechanism to identify when the choice takes effect.
+sending peer, which can be used by the receiving peer. An endpoint MUST NOT wait
+for the peer&#39;s SETTINGS frame to arrive before sending it&#39;s own SETTINGS frame.
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<p>This seems to duplicate the text at 1401-1403 (your version) / 1399-1401 (current PR).  Is there a reason it needs to be in two places, or was there a problem with the wording?</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2986#discussion_r317152207">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -2159,6 +2161,12 @@ the settings identifier space in HTTP/3 is substantially larger (62 bits versus
 16 bits), so many HTTP/3 settings have no equivalent HTTP/2 code point. See
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+An endpoint SHOULD NOT wait for the peer&#39;s settings to arrive before responding
</pre>
<p>This appendix is informative; we shouldn't have 2119 requirements here.  (Besides, this is already covered by "Each endpoint MAY use these initial values to send messages before the peer's SETTINGS frame has arrived." on line 1396 / 1394.)  This is a difference from HTTP/2, so it's not unreasonable to mention here, though.</p>

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ianswett commented on this pull request.

I think in our editor's meeting we agreed not to close Nick's PR with this PR?

Also, I'm not sure this really solves #2945 fully?

> @@ -1389,29 +1389,45 @@ for more details.
 #### Initialization
 
 An HTTP implementation MUST NOT send frames or requests which would be invalid
-based on its current understanding of the peer's settings.  All settings begin
-at an initial value, and are updated upon receipt of a SETTINGS frame.  For
-servers, the initial value of each client setting is the default value.
+based on its current understanding of the peer's settings.
+
+All settings begin at an initial value.  Each endpoint MAY use these initial
+values to send messages before the peer's SETTINGS frame has arrived.  When

messages?

> @@ -1389,29 +1389,45 @@ for more details.
 #### Initialization
 
 An HTTP implementation MUST NOT send frames or requests which would be invalid
-based on its current understanding of the peer's settings.  All settings begin
-at an initial value, and are updated upon receipt of a SETTINGS frame.  For
-servers, the initial value of each client setting is the default value.
+based on its current understanding of the peer's settings.
+
+All settings begin at an initial value.  Each endpoint MAY use these initial
+values to send messages before the peer's SETTINGS frame has arrived.  When
+the SETTINGS frame arrives, any settings are changed to their new values.
+
+This removes the need to wait for the SETTINGS frame before sending messages.
+Endpoints MUST NOT require any data to be received from the peer prior to
+sending the SETTINGS frame; settings SHOULD be sent as soon as the transport is
+ready to send data.

I think it's worth adding an Implementation Note along the lines of:
"For clients using a 1-RTT QUIC connection, the 1-RTT keys will always become available prior to SETTINGS arriving, even if the server send SETTINGS immediately.  Clients SHOULD NOT wait indefinitely for SETTINGS to arrive before sending requests, but SHOULD process received datagrams in order to increase the likelihood of processing SETTINGS before sending the first request."

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<p><b>@ianswett</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<p>I think in our editor's meeting we agreed not to close Nick's PR with this PR?</p>
<p>Also, I'm not sure this really solves <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="475432278" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2945" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2945/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2945">#2945</a> fully?</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2972#discussion_r317169358">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1389,29 +1389,45 @@ for more details.
 #### Initialization
 
 An HTTP implementation MUST NOT send frames or requests which would be invalid
-based on its current understanding of the peer&#39;s settings.  All settings begin
-at an initial value, and are updated upon receipt of a SETTINGS frame.  For
-servers, the initial value of each client setting is the default value.
+based on its current understanding of the peer&#39;s settings.
+
+All settings begin at an initial value.  Each endpoint MAY use these initial
+values to send messages before the peer&#39;s SETTINGS frame has arrived.  When
</pre>
<p>messages?</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2972#discussion_r317173199">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1389,29 +1389,45 @@ for more details.
 #### Initialization
 
 An HTTP implementation MUST NOT send frames or requests which would be invalid
-based on its current understanding of the peer&#39;s settings.  All settings begin
-at an initial value, and are updated upon receipt of a SETTINGS frame.  For
-servers, the initial value of each client setting is the default value.
+based on its current understanding of the peer&#39;s settings.
+
+All settings begin at an initial value.  Each endpoint MAY use these initial
+values to send messages before the peer&#39;s SETTINGS frame has arrived.  When
+the SETTINGS frame arrives, any settings are changed to their new values.
+
+This removes the need to wait for the SETTINGS frame before sending messages.
+Endpoints MUST NOT require any data to be received from the peer prior to
+sending the SETTINGS frame; settings SHOULD be sent as soon as the transport is
+ready to send data.
</pre>
<p>I think it's worth adding an Implementation Note along the lines of:<br>
"For clients using a 1-RTT QUIC connection, the 1-RTT keys will always become available prior to SETTINGS arriving, even if the server send SETTINGS immediately.  Clients SHOULD NOT wait indefinitely for SETTINGS to arrive before sending requests, but SHOULD process received datagrams in order to increase the likelihood of processing SETTINGS before sending the first request."</p>

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> @@ -4843,7 +4843,8 @@ Token Length:
 
 Token:
 
-: An opaque blob that the client may use with a future Initial packet.
+: An opaque blob that the client may use with a future Initial packet. The token
+  MUST NOT be empty.

Did you want to specify the connection close error to use if it's empty?

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<p><b>@ianswett</b> approved this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2977#discussion_r317179849">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -4843,7 +4843,8 @@ Token Length:
 
 Token:
 
-: An opaque blob that the client may use with a future Initial packet.
+: An opaque blob that the client may use with a future Initial packet. The token
+  MUST NOT be empty.
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ianswett commented on this pull request.



> @@ -1330,11 +1330,13 @@ If an endpoint receives a SETTINGS frame on a different stream, the endpoint
 MUST respond with a connection error of type HTTP_WRONG_STREAM.
 
 SETTINGS parameters are not negotiated; they describe characteristics of the
-sending peer, which can be used by the receiving peer. However, a negotiation
-can be implied by the use of SETTINGS - each peer uses SETTINGS to advertise a
-set of supported values. The definition of the setting would describe how each
-peer combines the two sets to conclude which choice will be used.  SETTINGS does
-not provide a mechanism to identify when the choice takes effect.
+sending peer, which can be used by the receiving peer. An endpoint MUST NOT wait
+for the peer's SETTINGS frame to arrive before sending it's own SETTINGS frame.
+However, a negotiation can be implied by the use of SETTINGS - each peer uses
+SETTINGS to advertise a set of supported values. The definition of the setting
+would describe how each peer combines the two sets to conclude which choice will
+be used.  SETTINGS does not provide a mechanism to identify when the choice
+takes effect.

Adding a sub-section on negotiation may be worthwhile, but I think it's better under it's own paragraph and sub-section.  And maybe as part of the fix for #2985?

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<p><b>@ianswett</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2986#discussion_r317180845">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1330,11 +1330,13 @@ If an endpoint receives a SETTINGS frame on a different stream, the endpoint
 MUST respond with a connection error of type HTTP_WRONG_STREAM.
 
 SETTINGS parameters are not negotiated; they describe characteristics of the
-sending peer, which can be used by the receiving peer. However, a negotiation
-can be implied by the use of SETTINGS - each peer uses SETTINGS to advertise a
-set of supported values. The definition of the setting would describe how each
-peer combines the two sets to conclude which choice will be used.  SETTINGS does
-not provide a mechanism to identify when the choice takes effect.
+sending peer, which can be used by the receiving peer. An endpoint MUST NOT wait
+for the peer&#39;s SETTINGS frame to arrive before sending it&#39;s own SETTINGS frame.
+However, a negotiation can be implied by the use of SETTINGS - each peer uses
+SETTINGS to advertise a set of supported values. The definition of the setting
+would describe how each peer combines the two sets to conclude which choice will
+be used.  SETTINGS does not provide a mechanism to identify when the choice
+takes effect.
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  Branch: refs/heads/ianswett-set-to-null
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2019-08-23 (Fri, 23 Aug 2019)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

  Log Message:
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  Replace remove() with setting to null

Fixes #2569



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Fixes #2569
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-- Commit Summary --

  * Replace remove() with setting to null

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md (4)

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<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #2569.">Fixes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="427329370" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2569" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2569/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2569">#2569</a></p>

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  <li>Replace remove() with setting to null</li>
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    <strong>M</strong>
    <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2987/files#diff-0">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>
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ianswett commented on this pull request.

This LG, but I would like it more if it was symmetric, with the client sending its SETTINGS in transport params as well.



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<p>This LG, but I would like it more if it was symmetric, with the client sending its SETTINGS in transport params as well.</p>

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> @@ -581,17 +581,17 @@ data.  If no data can be sent, then the PTO alarm MUST NOT be armed until
 data has been received from the client.
 
 Because the server could be blocked until more packets are received, the client
-MUST ensure that the retransmission timer is set if the client does not yet
-have 1-RTT keys.  If the probe timer expires before the client has 1-RTT keys,
-it is possible that the client may not have any crypto data to retransmit.
-However, the client MUST send a new packet to allow the server to continue
-sending data.  At this stage in the connection, when few to none RTT samples
-have been generated, it is possible that the probe timer expiration is due to
-an incorrect RTT estimate at the client. To allow the client to improve its RTT
-estimate, the new packet that it sends MUST be ack-eliciting.  If Handshake
-keys are available to the client, it MUST send a Handshake packet, and
-otherwise it MUST send an Initial packet in a UDP datagram of at least 1200
-bytes.
+MUST ensure that the retransmission timer is set if the client has not received
+an ACK in a Handshake packet and does not yet have 1-RTT keys.  If the probe

This still doesn't work. I think spell it out a bit more might help clarify... how about replacing the sentence with:

"Since the server could be blocked until more packets are received from the client, it is the client's responsibility to send data to unblock the server until it is certain that the server has finished its validation. That is, the client MUST set the retransmission timer if one of the following conditions is true: the client does not yet have 1-RTT keys, or the client has not received an ACK for one of its Handshake packets."

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<p><b>@janaiyengar</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2907#discussion_r317265937">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -581,17 +581,17 @@ data.  If no data can be sent, then the PTO alarm MUST NOT be armed until
 data has been received from the client.
 
 Because the server could be blocked until more packets are received, the client
-MUST ensure that the retransmission timer is set if the client does not yet
-have 1-RTT keys.  If the probe timer expires before the client has 1-RTT keys,
-it is possible that the client may not have any crypto data to retransmit.
-However, the client MUST send a new packet to allow the server to continue
-sending data.  At this stage in the connection, when few to none RTT samples
-have been generated, it is possible that the probe timer expiration is due to
-an incorrect RTT estimate at the client. To allow the client to improve its RTT
-estimate, the new packet that it sends MUST be ack-eliciting.  If Handshake
-keys are available to the client, it MUST send a Handshake packet, and
-otherwise it MUST send an Initial packet in a UDP datagram of at least 1200
-bytes.
+MUST ensure that the retransmission timer is set if the client has not received
+an ACK in a Handshake packet and does not yet have 1-RTT keys.  If the probe
</pre>
<p>This still doesn't work. I think spell it out a bit more might help clarify... how about replacing the sentence with:</p>
<p>"Since the server could be blocked until more packets are received from the client, it is the client's responsibility to send data to unblock the server until it is certain that the server has finished its validation. That is, the client MUST set the retransmission timer if one of the following conditions is true: the client does not yet have 1-RTT keys, or the client has not received an ACK for one of its Handshake packets."</p>

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> @@ -4843,7 +4843,8 @@ Token Length:
 
 Token:
 
-: An opaque blob that the client may use with a future Initial packet.
+: An opaque blob that the client may use with a future Initial packet. The token
+  MUST NOT be empty.

I'd use a FRAME_ENCODING_ERROR error here. However, for other invalid frame errors we use PROTOCOL_VIOLATION. Not sure if that's something we want to address at some point.

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<p><b>@marten-seemann</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2977#discussion_r317351101">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -4843,7 +4843,8 @@ Token Length:
 
 Token:
 
-: An opaque blob that the client may use with a future Initial packet.
+: An opaque blob that the client may use with a future Initial packet. The token
+  MUST NOT be empty.
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<p>I'd use a FRAME_ENCODING_ERROR error here. However, for other invalid frame errors we use PROTOCOL_VIOLATION. Not sure if that's something we want to address at some point.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/ianswett-fix-loss-detection
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  Date:   2019-08-24 (Sat, 24 Aug 2019)

  Changed paths:
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> @@ -581,17 +581,17 @@ data.  If no data can be sent, then the PTO alarm MUST NOT be armed until
 data has been received from the client.
 
 Because the server could be blocked until more packets are received, the client
-MUST ensure that the retransmission timer is set if the client does not yet
-have 1-RTT keys.  If the probe timer expires before the client has 1-RTT keys,
-it is possible that the client may not have any crypto data to retransmit.
-However, the client MUST send a new packet to allow the server to continue
-sending data.  At this stage in the connection, when few to none RTT samples
-have been generated, it is possible that the probe timer expiration is due to
-an incorrect RTT estimate at the client. To allow the client to improve its RTT
-estimate, the new packet that it sends MUST be ack-eliciting.  If Handshake
-keys are available to the client, it MUST send a Handshake packet, and
-otherwise it MUST send an Initial packet in a UDP datagram of at least 1200
-bytes.
+MUST ensure that the retransmission timer is set if the client has not received
+an ACK in a Handshake packet and does not yet have 1-RTT keys.  If the probe

Suggestion accepted with some minor tweaks, PTAL.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2907#discussion_r317377161">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -581,17 +581,17 @@ data.  If no data can be sent, then the PTO alarm MUST NOT be armed until
 data has been received from the client.
 
 Because the server could be blocked until more packets are received, the client
-MUST ensure that the retransmission timer is set if the client does not yet
-have 1-RTT keys.  If the probe timer expires before the client has 1-RTT keys,
-it is possible that the client may not have any crypto data to retransmit.
-However, the client MUST send a new packet to allow the server to continue
-sending data.  At this stage in the connection, when few to none RTT samples
-have been generated, it is possible that the probe timer expiration is due to
-an incorrect RTT estimate at the client. To allow the client to improve its RTT
-estimate, the new packet that it sends MUST be ack-eliciting.  If Handshake
-keys are available to the client, it MUST send a Handshake packet, and
-otherwise it MUST send an Initial packet in a UDP datagram of at least 1200
-bytes.
+MUST ensure that the retransmission timer is set if the client has not received
+an ACK in a Handshake packet and does not yet have 1-RTT keys.  If the probe
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<p>Suggestion accepted with some minor tweaks, PTAL.</p>

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> @@ -1157,7 +1157,7 @@ Pseudocode for OnPacketAcked follows:
    OnPacketAcked(acked_packet, pn_space):
      if (acked_packet.in_flight):
        OnPacketAckedCC(acked_packet)
-     sent_packets[pn_space].remove(acked_packet.packet_number)
+     sent_packets[pn_space].[acked_packet.packet_number] = null

```suggestion
     sent_packets[pn_space][acked_packet.packet_number] = null
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martinthomson commented on this pull request.

On line 1098, where it says:

```
  if (sent_packets[pn_space][ack.largest_acked] &&
      IncludesAckEliciting(newly_acked_packets)):
    latest_rtt =
```

Should you instead be really clear and say:

```
  if (sent_packets[pn_space][ack.largest_acked] != null &&
      IncludesAckEliciting(newly_acked_packets)):
    latest_rtt =
```




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<p><b>@martinthomson</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<p>On line 1098, where it says:</p>
<pre><code>  if (sent_packets[pn_space][ack.largest_acked] &amp;&amp;
      IncludesAckEliciting(newly_acked_packets)):
    latest_rtt =
</code></pre>
<p>Should you instead be really clear and say:</p>
<pre><code>  if (sent_packets[pn_space][ack.largest_acked] != null &amp;&amp;
      IncludesAckEliciting(newly_acked_packets)):
    latest_rtt =
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It's a matter of taste, but I don't really like setting values to null when null is not defined value in a set. Removing something from a set is mathematically well defined. That Javascript happens to be weird doesn't have to affect a specification.

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<p>It's a matter of taste, but I don't really like setting values to null when null is not defined value in a set. Removing something from a set is mathematically well defined. That Javascript happens to be weird doesn't have to affect a specification.</p>

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Allow Smaller Stateless Resets


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  Merge pull request #2752 from quicwg/jri/ecn

ECN verification text


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Merged #2752 into master.

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Fixed by #2189.

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<p>Fixed by <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="442661902" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2688" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2688/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2688">#2688</a>.</p>

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This doesn't add rationale.  It doesn't have to.  See the issue
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I'll bite.  Yes, a P2P app that used mutual authentication in a way that would allow a former server to associate a token with an attempt to connect to a peer that was previously a client, might be able to use NEW_TOKEN.

That's a little outside our remit.  I'm going to take this as an editorial change on the understanding that a design issue could be opened to allow the asymmetry.

Anyone who is serious about that should also consider the fact that NewSessionTicket in TLS is potentially symmetrical by the same logic.  Which suggests that 0-RTT isn't out of the question either.

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<p>I'll bite.  Yes, a P2P app that used mutual authentication in a way that would allow a former server to associate a token with an attempt to connect to a peer that was previously a client, might be able to use NEW_TOKEN.</p>
<p>That's a little outside our remit.  I'm going to take this as an editorial change on the understanding that a design issue could be opened to allow the asymmetry.</p>
<p>Anyone who is serious about that should also consider the fact that NewSessionTicket in TLS is potentially symmetrical by the same logic.  Which suggests that 0-RTT isn't out of the question either.</p>

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This doesn't add rationale.  It doesn't have to.  The rationale isn't high-minded, it's just motivated by a desire to complete this protocol.

Closes #2382.
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  * Only servers send NEW_TOKEN

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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (3)

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<p>This doesn't add rationale.  It doesn't have to.  The rationale isn't high-minded, it's just motivated by a desire to complete this protocol.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #2382.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="404088273" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2382" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2382/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2382">#2382</a>.</p>

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I think that we did this already.

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<p>I think that we did this already.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/coalesce-retry-vn
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2019-08-26 (Mon, 26 Aug 2019)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  No point in coalescing Retry or VN

Closes #2407.



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Closes #2407.
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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2989

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  * No point in coalescing Retry or VN

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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (3)

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<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #2407.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="406256011" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2407" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2407/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2407">#2407</a>.</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>No point in coalescing Retry or VN</li>
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<h4>File Changes</h4>
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    <strong>M</strong>
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We already decided that CONNECTION_CLOSE in Initial was acceptable on the basis that more complicated attacks (flip a bit in the TLS random, for instance) are more effective at denial of service.

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<p>We already decided that CONNECTION_CLOSE in Initial was acceptable on the basis that more complicated attacks (flip a bit in the TLS random, for instance) are more effective at denial of service.</p>

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I don't think that the reinterpretation of the little-endian thing is safe, as per @mikkelfj's comment.

The [PKCS#11 interface](https://docs.oasis-open.org/pkcs11/pkcs11-curr/v3.0/csprd01/pkcs11-curr-v3.0-csprd01.html#_Toc10561273) takes a byte buffer as input rather than a `uint32_t`.  That is to allow for different block counter sizes.  I'll make the editorial change, but leave the suggestion there alone.

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<p>I don't think that the reinterpretation of the little-endian thing is safe, as per <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/hovercards?user_id=193335" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/mikkelfj">@mikkelfj</a>'s comment.</p>
<p>The <a href="https://docs.oasis-open.org/pkcs11/pkcs11-curr/v3.0/csprd01/pkcs11-curr-v3.0-csprd01.html#_Toc10561273" rel="nofollow">PKCS#11 interface</a> takes a byte buffer as input rather than a <code>uint32_t</code>.  That is to allow for different block counter sizes.  I'll make the editorial change, but leave the suggestion there alone.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/coalesce-retry-vn
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      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/55ec704a1ee1a730853ddd6e8192fb3737d88278
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2019-08-26 (Mon, 26 Aug 2019)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  Simplify ChaCha20 interface

The nonce can just be opaque bytes.

The block counter is tricky, as noted in the issue.  The "obvious"
choice is little-endian, as that is consistent with the philosophy of
the designer (as I understand it), but that is not anything more than a
guess.

Absent strong evidence that big-endian is a better choice, I'm going to
err on the side of not making a substantive change here.  But I think
that we need a consensus call to support that viewpoint.

Closes #2171.



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  Branch: refs/heads/chacha-simple
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  Simplify ChaCha20 interface

The nonce can just be opaque bytes.

The block counter is tricky, as noted in the issue.  The "obvious"
choice is little-endian, as that is consistent with the philosophy of
the designer (as I understand it), but that is not anything more than a
guess.

Absent strong evidence that big-endian is a better choice, I'm going to
err on the side of not making a substantive change here.  But I think
that we need a consensus call to support that viewpoint.

Closes #2171.



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@mnot, @larseggert, can we flip this to `design` please?   I don't think that we need to change the substance here, but I want to confirm the little-endian/big-endian choice here.

I hope to have more information to share on the question soon, but that might not be definitive.  We might just have to make a call ourselves.  

Absent better information, I'm going to suggest that we continue with little-endian, but I this is far from an obvious conclusion.

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<p>I hope to have more information to share on the question soon, but that might not be definitive.  We might just have to make a call ourselves.</p>
<p>Absent better information, I'm going to suggest that we continue with little-endian, but I this is far from an obvious conclusion.</p>

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The nonce can just be opaque bytes.

The block counter is tricky, as noted in the issue.  The "obvious"
choice is little-endian, as that is consistent with the philosophy of
the designer (as I understand it), but that is not anything more than a
guess.

Absent strong evidence that big-endian is a better choice, I'm going to
err on the side of not making a substantive change here.  But I think
that we need a consensus call to support that viewpoint.

Closes #2171.
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<p>The nonce can just be opaque bytes.</p>
<p>The block counter is tricky, as noted in the issue.  The "obvious"<br>
choice is little-endian, as that is consistent with the philosophy of<br>
the designer (as I understand it), but that is not anything more than a<br>
guess.</p>
<p>Absent strong evidence that big-endian is a better choice, I'm going to<br>
err on the side of not making a substantive change here.  But I think<br>
that we need a consensus call to support that viewpoint.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #2171.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="390914938" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2171" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2171/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2171">#2171</a>.</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>Simplify ChaCha20 interface</li>
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So you say this is beyond what is specified here, with test vectors?

https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-agl-tls-chacha20poly1305-03.html


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<p>So you say this is beyond what is specified here, with test vectors?</p>
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 #2869 decided this issue for us.  But we should confirm with the working group.

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  Branch: refs/heads/unclarity-short
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2019-08-26 (Mon, 26 Aug 2019)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md

  Log Message:
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  DCID in short headers

Invariants text was unclear on where the Destination Connection ID field
was and how big it could be.

Closes #2335.



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Invariants text was unclear on where the Destination Connection ID field
was and how big it could be.

Closes #2335.
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  * DCID in short headers

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    M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md (7)

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<p>Invariants text was unclear on where the Destination Connection ID field<br>
was and how big it could be.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #2335.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="399329332" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2335" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2335/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2335">#2335</a>.</p>

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  <li>DCID in short headers</li>
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@ekr, I know that this is now old, but I think that there's something here.  Not in the ordering, which I think is not important, but in the constant time piece.

I think that this implies that constant-time comparison with every viable stateless reset is something we should do on every packet.

There's been an assumption throughout that packet processing time for dropped packets isn't observable.  I think that's a bad assumption, frankly.  It's not like you can't put a packet with a known processing time after each probe.  

So I think that we've got to at least say that this is what happens.  But we've just raised the packet processing load considerably, so I doubt that this will be well received.

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<p>I think that this implies that constant-time comparison with every viable stateless reset is something we should do on every packet.</p>
<p>There's been an assumption throughout that packet processing time for dropped packets isn't observable.  I think that's a bad assumption, frankly.  It's not like you can't put a packet with a known processing time after each probe.</p>
<p>So I think that we've got to at least say that this is what happens.  But we've just raised the packet processing load considerably, so I doubt that this will be well received.</p>

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Yes.  That (now RFC 8439, as cited in this spec), specifies block counters as a number. It doesn't specify how that number might be derived from a sequence of bytes.

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<p>Yes.  That (now RFC 8439, as cited in this spec), specifies block counters as a number. It doesn't specify how that number might be derived from a sequence of bytes.</p>

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Depending on implementation it can be very hard to do constant time.

Even if you compare keys in constant time, the cache latency can be much higher. For stateless resets I'd assume a lookup only happens once and then it is removed from, say, a hash table. That is, there is no cache latency difference between a valid and an invalid lookup. Compare this to connectionsID's that are looked up frequently. Here it is possible to guess to valid CID's based on lookup times.

But even if you do not have cache latency issues, you have hash collision issues. This makes a hash table unsuitable. The alternernative is binary tree, or a trie. The binary tree will be have to modified to do log N comparisons for all lookups even if the key is found higher up. And regardless a binary tree is much much slower than a hash table. Tries are very complex to implement correctly and must still be implemented for maximum search path comparison.

Another approach is to timestamp the lookup and busyloop until you reach, say, 100ns of cpu cycles after performaning the lookup in a hash table. This is still faster than a binary tree, but slower than the trie.

I seriously doubt most implementations would go out of their way to make resets effectively constants time.

So the question is - does that make most implementations trivial targets for DoS resets?
And what about guessing CID's?

How can practically protect against this, because trusting the implementation to be constant time is not realistic.

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<p>Depending on implementation it can be very hard to do constant time.</p>
<p>Even if you compare keys in constant time, the cache latency can be much higher. For stateless resets I'd assume a lookup only happens once and then it is removed from, say, a hash table. That is, there is no cache latency difference between a valid and an invalid lookup. Compare this to connectionsID's that are looked up frequently. Here it is possible to guess to valid CID's based on lookup times.</p>
<p>But even if you do not have cache latency issues, you have hash collision issues. This makes a hash table unsuitable. The alternernative is binary tree, or a trie. The binary tree will be have to modified to do log N comparisons for all lookups even if the key is found higher up. And regardless a binary tree is much much slower than a hash table. Tries are very complex to implement correctly and must still be implemented for maximum search path comparison.</p>
<p>Another approach is to timestamp the lookup and busyloop until you reach, say, 100ns of cpu cycles after performaning the lookup in a hash table. This is still faster than a binary tree, but slower than the trie.</p>
<p>I seriously doubt most implementations would go out of their way to make resets effectively constants time.</p>
<p>So the question is - does that make most implementations trivial targets for DoS resets?<br>
And what about guessing CID's?</p>
<p>How can practically protect against this, because trusting the implementation to be constant time is not realistic.</p>

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A related problem is the use of API access tokens. Many people argue against JWT token validation because you cannot retire a JWT token. But a JWT token is easy to verify in constant time. An opaque access token must be looked up, and this is very hard to do constant time. This could be major security concern on the internet at large.

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<p>A related problem is the use of API access tokens. Many people argue against JWT token validation because you cannot retire a JWT token. But a JWT token is easy to verify in constant time. An opaque access token must be looked up, and this is very hard to do constant time. This could be major security concern on the internet at large.</p>

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Thus, a solution to the reset problem could be to define an algorithm and share keys with the client. The problem is that the clients key must be session specific while that server cannot share its server keys, so something creative must be invented. If this is done, another latency will be added to the per packet overhead, which is also not desirable, similar to header protection.

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  Branch: refs/heads/keys-available-earlier
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      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3d5e2692e439f2f488b92bad55f885827d702367
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2019-08-26 (Mon, 26 Aug 2019)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  Keys need to be available to QUIC earlier

...than a TLS stack.  The canonical example being the Handshake keys,
which are needed by a client to acknowledge partial server Handshake
flights.  TLS won't use those keys itself until it has the entire set of
Handshake messages from the server.

In doing this, I decided that it makes sense to reorder the sequence
diagram to show what incoming packets trigger different events.

Closes #2328.



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I imagine this to be much simpler than you suggest.  An endpoint that sends packets using a given set of connection IDs puts all the associated stateless reset tokens into a structure.  Then along with decrypting packets, it iterates through that structure and performs a constant time comparison with each.  That's something that won't have weird cache usage patterns, other than the usual cost of getting these values into the cache if they fall out.  The number of active values shouldn't be a secret, which is most of what that tells you.

The result of this will be two Boolean values: whether the AEAD was OK and whether the stateless reset was triggered.  An authentic packet will be the logical OR of those two values.  Anything else is dropped.  After that point, you have crossed into packets being "good", so the time you take to process the packet is less of a concern.

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<p>I imagine this to be much simpler than you suggest.  An endpoint that sends packets using a given set of connection IDs puts all the associated stateless reset tokens into a structure.  Then along with decrypting packets, it iterates through that structure and performs a constant time comparison with each.  That's something that won't have weird cache usage patterns, other than the usual cost of getting these values into the cache if they fall out.  The number of active values shouldn't be a secret, which is most of what that tells you.</p>
<p>The result of this will be two Boolean values: whether the AEAD was OK and whether the stateless reset was triggered.  An authentic packet will be the logical OR of those two values.  Anything else is dropped.  After that point, you have crossed into packets being "good", so the time you take to process the packet is less of a concern.</p>

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I think that I can make that call now.  If there is a problem, we can open an issue.

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If you can guarantee that there are only a short list to search, then yes. But it is only per connection ID that list is short, so you need to make the connection ID lookup constant time. You can potentially have much more than 100K connection ids to map. For normal operation you first validate the packet, so here the CID lookup is less critical, but for reset that is not the case. Clearly performing a linear search over all CID's is not viable.

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<p>If you can guarantee that there are only a short list to search, then yes. But it is only per connection ID that list is short, so you need to make the connection ID lookup constant time. You can potentially have much more than 100K connection ids to map. For normal operation you first validate the packet, so here the CID lookup is less critical, but for reset that is not the case. Clearly performing a linear search over all CID's is not viable.</p>

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I think that the list could be narrowed by path.  If you have tons of connections on the same path, yeah, that's not great.

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...than a TLS stack.  The canonical example being the Handshake keys,
which are needed by a client to acknowledge partial server Handshake
flights.  TLS won't use those keys itself until it has the entire set of
Handshake messages from the server.

In doing this, I decided that it makes sense to reorder the sequence
diagram to show what incoming packets trigger different events.

Closes #2328.
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  * Keys need to be available to QUIC earlier

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md (33)

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<p>...than a TLS stack.  The canonical example being the Handshake keys,<br>
which are needed by a client to acknowledge partial server Handshake<br>
flights.  TLS won't use those keys itself until it has the entire set of<br>
Handshake messages from the server.</p>
<p>In doing this, I decided that it makes sense to reorder the sequence<br>
diagram to show what incoming packets trigger different events.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #2328.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="397649626" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2328" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2328/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2328">#2328</a>.</p>

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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2992'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2992</a></p>

<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
<ul>
  <li>Keys need to be available to QUIC earlier</li>
</ul>

<h4>File Changes</h4>
<ul>
  <li>
    <strong>M</strong>
    <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2992/files#diff-0">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>
    (33)
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I think the situation @kazuho is trying to describe is that, for whatever reason, the SETTINGS frame isn't transmitted until the sender has something *else* to send on the control stream.  Since that is required to come after SETTINGS, it finally sends SETTINGS then.

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<p>I think the situation <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/hovercards?user_id=41567" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/kazuho">@kazuho</a> is trying to describe is that, for whatever reason, the SETTINGS frame isn't transmitted until the sender has something <em>else</em> to send on the control stream.  Since that is required to come after SETTINGS, it finally sends SETTINGS then.</p>

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You don't need constant time because you are not replying to the reset. Worst case is that you ignore / reject the reset and continue sending observable packets. The timing of those packets is largely (but not entirely) independent of the reset lookup timing. Further, if a reset is successfully guessed, you are dead, so the only thing to protect is how you test for and react to unmatched resets. If packets are paced you should be good.

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<p>You don't need constant time because you are not replying to the reset. Worst case is that you ignore / reject the reset and continue sending observable packets. The timing of those packets is largely (but not entirely) independent of the reset lookup timing. Further, if a reset is successfully guessed, you are dead, so the only thing to protect is how you test for and react to unmatched resets. If packets are paced you should be good.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
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  Changed paths:
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  Require 8164 validation for non-https origins (#2973)

* Require 8164 validation for non-https origins

* 8164 is specific, but the requirement is generic



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MikeBishop commented on this pull request.



> @@ -1389,29 +1389,45 @@ for more details.
 #### Initialization
 
 An HTTP implementation MUST NOT send frames or requests which would be invalid
-based on its current understanding of the peer's settings.  All settings begin
-at an initial value, and are updated upon receipt of a SETTINGS frame.  For
-servers, the initial value of each client setting is the default value.
+based on its current understanding of the peer's settings.
+
+All settings begin at an initial value.  Each endpoint MAY use these initial
+values to send messages before the peer's SETTINGS frame has arrived.  When

Generic reference to requests and responses both final and non-final.  See Section 4.1.  I can add a cross-ref, if you like.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2972#discussion_r317730146">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1389,29 +1389,45 @@ for more details.
 #### Initialization
 
 An HTTP implementation MUST NOT send frames or requests which would be invalid
-based on its current understanding of the peer&#39;s settings.  All settings begin
-at an initial value, and are updated upon receipt of a SETTINGS frame.  For
-servers, the initial value of each client setting is the default value.
+based on its current understanding of the peer&#39;s settings.
+
+All settings begin at an initial value.  Each endpoint MAY use these initial
+values to send messages before the peer&#39;s SETTINGS frame has arrived.  When
</pre>
<p>Generic reference to requests and responses both final and non-final.  See Section 4.1.  I can add a cross-ref, if you like.</p>

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> @@ -1389,29 +1389,45 @@ for more details.
 #### Initialization
 
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-based on its current understanding of the peer's settings.  All settings begin
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-servers, the initial value of each client setting is the default value.
+based on its current understanding of the peer's settings.
+
+All settings begin at an initial value.  Each endpoint MAY use these initial
+values to send messages before the peer's SETTINGS frame has arrived.  When
+the SETTINGS frame arrives, any settings are changed to their new values.
+
+This removes the need to wait for the SETTINGS frame before sending messages.
+Endpoints MUST NOT require any data to be received from the peer prior to
+sending the SETTINGS frame; settings SHOULD be sent as soon as the transport is
+ready to send data.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2972#discussion_r317731365">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1389,29 +1389,45 @@ for more details.
 #### Initialization
 
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-based on its current understanding of the peer&#39;s settings.  All settings begin
-at an initial value, and are updated upon receipt of a SETTINGS frame.  For
-servers, the initial value of each client setting is the default value.
+based on its current understanding of the peer&#39;s settings.
+
+All settings begin at an initial value.  Each endpoint MAY use these initial
+values to send messages before the peer&#39;s SETTINGS frame has arrived.  When
+the SETTINGS frame arrives, any settings are changed to their new values.
+
+This removes the need to wait for the SETTINGS frame before sending messages.
+Endpoints MUST NOT require any data to be received from the peer prior to
+sending the SETTINGS frame; settings SHOULD be sent as soon as the transport is
+ready to send data.
</pre>
<p>I'm okay with that advice.</p>

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@kazuho pushed 2 commits.

fd556c0dc334cd92d9200a84c457a187d94f7053  Revert "MUST NOT wait for peer's SETTINGS before sending one's own", as it's stated elsewhere (pointed out by @MikeBishop)
d71650f5bef557df54e2eff2844b9c06dfc91671  MUST send SETTINGS, SHOULD NOT block, clarify why


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<p><a href="https://github.com/kazuho" class="user-mention">@kazuho</a> pushed 2 commits.</p>

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  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/fd556c0dc334cd92d9200a84c457a187d94f7053">fd556c0</a>  Revert &quot;MUST NOT wait for peer&#39;s SETTINGS before sending one&#39;s own&quot;, as it&#39;s stated elsewhere (pointed out by @MikeBishop)</li>
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kazuho commented on this pull request.



> @@ -1330,11 +1330,13 @@ If an endpoint receives a SETTINGS frame on a different stream, the endpoint
 MUST respond with a connection error of type HTTP_WRONG_STREAM.
 
 SETTINGS parameters are not negotiated; they describe characteristics of the
-sending peer, which can be used by the receiving peer. However, a negotiation
-can be implied by the use of SETTINGS - each peer uses SETTINGS to advertise a
-set of supported values. The definition of the setting would describe how each
-peer combines the two sets to conclude which choice will be used.  SETTINGS does
-not provide a mechanism to identify when the choice takes effect.
+sending peer, which can be used by the receiving peer. An endpoint MUST NOT wait
+for the peer's SETTINGS frame to arrive before sending it's own SETTINGS frame.

Thank you for pointing that out. I missed the existing text. Reverted in fd556c0.

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<p><b>@kazuho</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2986#discussion_r317808484">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1330,11 +1330,13 @@ If an endpoint receives a SETTINGS frame on a different stream, the endpoint
 MUST respond with a connection error of type HTTP_WRONG_STREAM.
 
 SETTINGS parameters are not negotiated; they describe characteristics of the
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-set of supported values. The definition of the setting would describe how each
-peer combines the two sets to conclude which choice will be used.  SETTINGS does
-not provide a mechanism to identify when the choice takes effect.
+sending peer, which can be used by the receiving peer. An endpoint MUST NOT wait
+for the peer&#39;s SETTINGS frame to arrive before sending it&#39;s own SETTINGS frame.
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<p>Thank you for pointing that out. I missed the existing text. Reverted in <a class="commit-link" data-hovercard-type="commit" data-hovercard-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/fd556c0dc334cd92d9200a84c457a187d94f7053/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/fd556c0dc334cd92d9200a84c457a187d94f7053"><tt>fd556c0</tt></a>.</p>

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> @@ -2159,6 +2161,12 @@ the settings identifier space in HTTP/3 is substantially larger (62 bits versus
 16 bits), so many HTTP/3 settings have no equivalent HTTP/2 code point. See
 {{iana-settings}}.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD NOT wait for the peer's settings to arrive before responding

Yeah I now think that there is an issue in PR #2972.

It says that the sender SHOULD send SETTINGS, the receiver MAY use the initial value before receiving SETTINGS. We have a chance of deadlock by allowing the sender to not send SETTINGS, and the receiver to block on the receipt of SETTINGS.

d71650f resolves the deadlock by changing that to "MUST send SETTINGS". It also changes the recommendation on the receiver side to *not* block on SETTINGS as well as clarifying why. The normative text is moved into the main chapter, the appendix refers to it.

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<p><b>@kazuho</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2986#discussion_r317810121">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -2159,6 +2161,12 @@ the settings identifier space in HTTP/3 is substantially larger (62 bits versus
 16 bits), so many HTTP/3 settings have no equivalent HTTP/2 code point. See
 {{iana-settings}}.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD NOT wait for the peer&#39;s settings to arrive before responding
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<p>Yeah I now think that there is an issue in PR <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="481711771" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2972" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2972/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2972">#2972</a>.</p>
<p>It says that the sender SHOULD send SETTINGS, the receiver MAY use the initial value before receiving SETTINGS. We have a chance of deadlock by allowing the sender to not send SETTINGS, and the receiver to block on the receipt of SETTINGS.</p>
<p><a class="commit-link" data-hovercard-type="commit" data-hovercard-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d71650f5bef557df54e2eff2844b9c06dfc91671/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d71650f5bef557df54e2eff2844b9c06dfc91671"><tt>d71650f</tt></a> resolves the deadlock by changing that to "MUST send SETTINGS". It also changes the recommendation on the receiver side to <em>not</em> block on SETTINGS as well as clarifying why. The normative text is moved into the main chapter, the appendix refers to it.</p>

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@MikeBishop @ianswett Thank you for your comments.

As written in https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2986#discussion_r317810121, I think that there is still a potential deadlock in #2972 (which was the original issue in of #2945), and that this PR tries to fix that.

I am sorry for this being a separate PR against #2972, I had hoped that this would be more of a clarification that amends the PR, but it might have been wrong.

Anyways, I would appreciate it if you could see how this PR looks like now.

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martinthomson commented on this pull request.



> -what it is expecting.  It creates a new secret (see Section 7.2 of {{!TLS13}})
-and the corresponding read key and IV using the KDF function provided by TLS.
-The header protection key is not updated.
-
-If the packet can be decrypted and authenticated using the updated key and IV,
-then the keys the endpoint uses for packet protection are also updated.  The
-next packet sent by the endpoint MUST then use the new keys.  Once an endpoint
-has sent a packet encrypted with a given key phase, it MUST NOT send a packet
-encrypted with an older key phase.
+While only one send key is used at a time, an endpoint MUST retain at least two
+receive keys.
+
+Packets received with the current key phase are unprotected using the
+corresponding receive key.  When a packet arrives with the opposite key phase,
+an endpoint determines which receive key to use by tracking the lowest packet
+number among the packets received with the currently key phase.  If a packet is

```suggestion
number among the packets received with the current key phase.  If a packet is
```

> +
+Packets received with the current key phase are unprotected using the
+corresponding receive key.  When a packet arrives with the opposite key phase,
+an endpoint determines which receive key to use by tracking the lowest packet
+number among the packets received with the currently key phase.  If a packet is
+received that has a different KEY_PHASE bit and a lower packet number than this
+value, the endpoint uses the receive key of the previous key phase for
+unprotecting the packet, if that key is available.  If the packet has a higher
+packet number, the endpoint derives the receive key of the next key phase by
+calculating the next secret (see Section 7.2 of {{!TLS13}}), the corresponding
+read key and IV using the KDF function provided by TLS, unless the next receive
+key has already been derived.  The header protection key is not updated.
+
+Once derived, an endpoint retains the receive key of the next key phase, to
+prevent attackers from targeting the calculation process of the next receive key
+as an attack vector.  An endpoint that retains only two receive keys drops the

An attack on what?

> +corresponding receive key.  When a packet arrives with the opposite key phase,
+an endpoint determines which receive key to use by tracking the lowest packet
+number among the packets received with the currently key phase.  If a packet is
+received that has a different KEY_PHASE bit and a lower packet number than this
+value, the endpoint uses the receive key of the previous key phase for
+unprotecting the packet, if that key is available.  If the packet has a higher
+packet number, the endpoint derives the receive key of the next key phase by
+calculating the next secret (see Section 7.2 of {{!TLS13}}), the corresponding
+read key and IV using the KDF function provided by TLS, unless the next receive
+key has already been derived.  The header protection key is not updated.
+
+Once derived, an endpoint retains the receive key of the next key phase, to
+prevent attackers from targeting the calculation process of the next receive key
+as an attack vector.  An endpoint that retains only two receive keys drops the
+receive key of the previous key phase in favor of retaining the next receive
+key.

This has to happen *after* you successfully use the new key.

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Yeah, I don't think that this would be helpful.  I don't see how postponement of transmission in that sort of arbitrary fashion would be a good idea.  Sure, lost packets happen, but the contract is that the message is sent as soon as the connection opens.

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<p>Yeah, I don't think that this would be helpful.  I don't see how postponement of transmission in that sort of arbitrary fashion would be a good idea.  Sure, lost packets happen, but the contract is that the message is sent as soon as the connection opens.</p>

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> You don't need constant time because you are not replying to the reset. 

That assumes that you don't have observable behaviour that follows the processing of that packet.  What I'm concerned about is being able to measure the time to compare, which gives an attacker a read on the value of the stateless reset token.

I think that it is sufficient for the comparison of each stateless reset token to be constant time, but the process might be cut short if a match is found.  And it might be OK to not check stateless reset tokens if the packet decrypts successfully.  That would all be on the basis that we're protecting multiple discrete items and not a single secret.

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<p>You don't need constant time because you are not replying to the reset.</p>
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<p>That assumes that you don't have observable behaviour that follows the processing of that packet.  What I'm concerned about is being able to measure the time to compare, which gives an attacker a read on the value of the stateless reset token.</p>
<p>I think that it is sufficient for the comparison of each stateless reset token to be constant time, but the process might be cut short if a match is found.  And it might be OK to not check stateless reset tokens if the packet decrypts successfully.  That would all be on the basis that we're protecting multiple discrete items and not a single secret.</p>

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martinthomson approved this pull request.

This seems like the right answer to me.

I get the desire to find a more general solution, but I am concerned that we don't know what "general" looks like.  This works well enough.  It's complicated to write it down, but I don't think that it's all that complicated in practice.

> -initial value of each server setting is the value used in the previous session.
-Clients MUST store the settings the server provided in the session being resumed
-and MUST comply with stored settings until the current server settings are
-received.  A client can use these initial values to send requests before the
-server's SETTINGS frame has arrived.  This removes the need for a client to wait
-for the SETTINGS frame before sending requests.
+setting is the default value.  1-RTT keys will always become available prior to
+SETTINGS arriving, even if the server sends SETTINGS immediately. Clients SHOULD
+NOT wait indefinitely for SETTINGS to arrive before sending requests, but SHOULD
+process received datagrams in order to increase the likelihood of processing
+SETTINGS before sending the first request.
+
+When a 0-RTT QUIC connection is being used, the initial value of each server
+setting is the value used in the previous session. Clients SHOULD store the
+settings the server provided in the connection where resumption information was
+provided, but MAY opt not to store settings in certain cases (e.g. if the

```suggestion
provided, but MAY opt not to store settings in certain cases (e.g., if the
```

>  
 A server can remember the settings that it advertised, or store an
 integrity-protected copy of the values in the ticket and recover the information
 when accepting 0-RTT data. A server uses the HTTP/3 settings values in
-determining whether to accept 0-RTT data.
+determining whether to accept 0-RTT data.  If the server cannot determine that
+the settings remembered by a client are compatible with its current settings, it
+MUST NOT accept 0-RTT data.  (Remembered settings are compatible if a client

```suggestion
MUST NOT accept 0-RTT data.  Remembered settings are compatible if a client
```

>  
 A server can remember the settings that it advertised, or store an
 integrity-protected copy of the values in the ticket and recover the information
 when accepting 0-RTT data. A server uses the HTTP/3 settings values in
-determining whether to accept 0-RTT data.
+determining whether to accept 0-RTT data.  If the server cannot determine that
+the settings remembered by a client are compatible with its current settings, it
+MUST NOT accept 0-RTT data.  (Remembered settings are compatible if a client
+complying with those settings would not violate the server's current settings.)

```suggestion
complying with those settings would not violate the server's current settings.
```

>  
 A server MAY accept 0-RTT and subsequently provide different settings in its
 SETTINGS frame. If 0-RTT data is accepted by the server, its SETTINGS frame MUST
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-with its 0-RTT data.  The server MAY omit settings from its SETTINGS frame which
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+with its 0-RTT data.  The server MUST include all settings which differ from
+their default values.  If a server accepts 0-RTT, but then sends a SETTINGS
+frame which reduces a setting the client understands or omits a value that was
+previous specified, this MUST be treated as a connection error of type

```suggestion
previously specified to have a non-default value, this MUST be treated as a connection error of type
```

The "ly" is just grammar, but I think that it would be OK to have a server send a default value in connection 1 and omit the value in connection 2.

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@MikeBishop 
> I think the situation @kazuho is trying to describe is that, for whatever reason, the SETTINGS frame isn't transmitted until the sender has something _else_ to send on the control stream. Since that is required to come after SETTINGS, it finally sends SETTINGS then.

Yes, that is what this sentence tried to state. OTOH, I am somewhat negative against allowing such postponement, as @martinthomson says.

The contract should either be "SHOULD send" & "MUST NOT block on receipt" or "MUST send" & "SHOULD NOT block on receipt". At the moment, #2986 takes the latter approach.

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<p>I think the situation <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/hovercards?user_id=41567" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/kazuho">@kazuho</a> is trying to describe is that, for whatever reason, the SETTINGS frame isn't transmitted until the sender has something <em>else</em> to send on the control stream. Since that is required to come after SETTINGS, it finally sends SETTINGS then.</p>
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<p>Yes, that is what this sentence tried to state. OTOH, I am somewhat negative against allowing such postponement, as <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/hovercards?user_id=67641" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/martinthomson">@martinthomson</a> says.</p>
<p>The contract should either be "SHOULD send" &amp; "MUST NOT block on receipt" or "MUST send" &amp; "SHOULD NOT block on receipt". At the moment, <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="484284210" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2986" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2986/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2986">#2986</a> takes the latter approach.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/ct-sr
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  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2019-08-27 (Tue, 27 Aug 2019)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Perform stateless reset token comparisons in constant time

Otherwise information about the token might leak.

As @mikkelfj says, there is no strict need to compare across the entire
set of values.  That could leaks two things: that the inbound packet was
dropped and the total number of stateless reset tokens.  Both are things
that we might care about, but will probably find prohibitive to protect.

Closes #2152.



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Otherwise information about the token might leak.

As @mikkelfj says, there is no strict need to compare across the entire
set of values.  That could leaks two things: that the inbound packet was
dropped and the total number of stateless reset tokens.  Both are things
that we might care about, but will probably find prohibitive to protect.

Closes #2152.
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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2993

-- Commit Summary --

  * Perform stateless reset token comparisons in constant time

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (16)

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<p>Otherwise information about the token might leak.</p>
<p>As <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/hovercards?user_id=193335" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/mikkelfj">@mikkelfj</a> says, there is no strict need to compare across the entire<br>
set of values.  That could leaks two things: that the inbound packet was<br>
dropped and the total number of stateless reset tokens.  Both are things<br>
that we might care about, but will probably find prohibitive to protect.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #2152.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="390829693" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2152" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2152/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2152">#2152</a>.</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>Perform stateless reset token comparisons in constant time</li>
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<h4>File Changes</h4>
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  <li>
    <strong>M</strong>
    <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2993/files#diff-0">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>
    (16)
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<h4>Patch Links:</h4>
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  <li><a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2993.patch'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2993.patch</a></li>
  <li><a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2993.diff'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2993.diff</a></li>
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On consideration, I'm going to make this a design issue so that it gets under noses.

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<p>On consideration, I'm going to make this a design issue so that it gets under noses.</p>

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Agreed @kazuho , I think both of those contracts are consistent.

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<p>Agreed <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/hovercards?user_id=41567" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/kazuho">@kazuho</a> , I think both of those contracts are consistent.</p>

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@ianswett pushed 1 commit.

9b9faa8935345c937811a4ccdc73d705ed5fb3cc  Martin's suggestion


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@mikkelfj I was happy with remove() as well but two issues were filed that both seemed to indicate that using remove() was confusing.  I'm open to other resolutions as well(or doing nothing).

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ianswett approved this pull request.

One editorial suggestion, but LG

> @@ -194,9 +194,10 @@ version-specific semantics are marked with an X.
 
 A QUIC packet with a short header has the high bit of the first byte set to 0.
 
-A QUIC packet with a short header includes a Destination Connection ID.  The
-short header does not include the Connection ID Lengths, Source Connection ID,
-or Version fields.
+A QUIC packet with a short header includes a Destination Connection ID
+immediately following the first byte.  The short header does not include the
+Connection ID Lengths, Source Connection ID, or Version fields.  The length of
+the Destination Connection ID is not constrained in packets with a short header.

```suggestion
the Destination Connection ID is not specified or constrained in packets with a short header.
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<p><b>@ianswett</b> approved this pull request.</p>=0D
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We've moved on here, allowing smaller outbound packets.

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<p>We've moved on here, allowing smaller outbound packets.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/unclarity-short
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  Changed paths:
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I personally would prefer to keep remove(x) and use something like contains(x) on the test, but I trust Ian's judgment.

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<p>I personally would prefer to keep remove(x) and use something like contains(x) on the test, but I trust Ian's judgment.</p>

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How about we change this to simply:

> An endpoint cannot assume the peer's settings to arrive in a timely manner, as the packet carrying the settings can be lost or delayed.

Implying the possibility of postponement tends to have the effect of endorsing it.

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<p>How about we change this to simply:</p>
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<p>Implying the possibility of postponement tends to have the effect of endorsing it.</p>

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What is ultimately the point (value) of specifying DCID of short headers in the invariants then? The length could be 0 and a pseudo DCID could be placed elsewhere in some arbitrary version.

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<p>What is ultimately the point (value) of specifying DCID of short headers in the invariants then? The length could be 0 and a pseudo DCID could be placed elsewhere in some arbitrary version.</p>

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I suspect the issues are about operational behaviour more than formalism, and a null test is just a proposed solution. If so, I think remove and contains is a much better approach.

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<p>I suspect the issues are about operational behaviour more than formalism, and a null test is just a proposed solution. If so, I think remove and contains is a much better approach.</p>

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A practical solution to the problem is to sample dropped packets and process these during idle time and eventually tear down a connection if necessary, rather than immediately. It can also be done in a separate thread although that on its own will not fully hide timing.

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<p>A practical solution to the problem is to sample dropped packets and process these during idle time and eventually tear down a connection if necessary, rather than immediately. It can also be done in a separate thread although that on its own will not fully hide timing.</p>

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I'm sure that we could do that, but the intent is to signal that - should we provide a DCID - it is in that location that it will appear.  I don't think that's zero value, even if it doesn't amount to much in terms of a commitment.

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<p>I'm sure that we could do that, but the intent is to signal that - should we provide a DCID - it is in that location that it will appear.  I don't think that's zero value, even if it doesn't amount to much in terms of a commitment.</p>

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@kazuho pushed 1 commit.

29ce7d634cd16dbbaf9d9659c38b055f5448a38e  simplify to avoid endorsing such behavior


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@martinthomson Makes sense. Applied as 29ce7d6 in #2986.

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I like that the text we have now - a load balancer can limit it's supported length, assuming that it is not longer than the limit imposed by QUIC vN. Assuming that is the case, it would be possible for such a middlebox to forward the packet to the correct backend server regardless of the QUIC version.

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<p>I like that the text we have now - a load balancer can limit it's supported length, assuming that it is not longer than the limit imposed by QUIC vN. Assuming that is the case, it would be possible for such a middlebox to forward the packet to the correct backend server regardless of the QUIC version.</p>

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On p2p there is the potential problem of relating a token to previously stored settings and observables from a previous session. This isn't well defined if the client specifies a new token. So perhaps it is better for each peer to "waste" a single 1-RTT connection the first time in a given direction.

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<p>On p2p there is the potential problem of relating a token to previously stored settings and observables from a previous session. This isn't well defined if the client specifies a new token. So perhaps it is better for each peer to "waste" a single 1-RTT connection the first time in a given direction.</p>

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While I agree that endpoints should not leak information that let's the attacker guess a valid token value, I am not sure if we need to require constant time comparison, as suggested by #2993.

I think that the practical defense would be mix a secret seed securely into the hash key (e.g., by using HMAC), much like we do for hash tables to prevent DoS collision attacks. Assuming that we mix a secure seed, the attacker would not be possible to deduce information from the response time of the hash table.

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<p>While I agree that endpoints should not leak information that let's the attacker guess a valid token value, I am not sure if we need to require constant time comparison, as suggested by <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="485562371" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2993" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2993/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2993">#2993</a>.</p>
<p>I think that the practical defense would be mix a secret seed securely into the hash key (e.g., by using HMAC), much like we do for hash tables to prevent DoS collision attacks. Assuming that we mix a secure seed, the attacker would not be possible to deduce information from the response time of the hash table.</p>

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Assume that you do have a way of measuring how long it takes to process a garbage packet.  Also assume that there is just one token.  If you don't compare in constant time, the attacker can measure how long it takes to compare the possible token with the real token.  For every byte that matches, you take a tiny bit longer.  A complete search takes just 2^12 guesses, multiplied by any oversampling factor you might need to extract the side channel information.  That makes it not very hard.

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<p>Assume that you do have a way of measuring how long it takes to process a garbage packet.  Also assume that there is just one token.  If you don't compare in constant time, the attacker can measure how long it takes to compare the possible token with the real token.  For every byte that matches, you take a tiny bit longer.  A complete search takes just 2^12 guesses, multiplied by any oversampling factor you might need to extract the side channel information.  That makes it not very hard.</p>

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But if you need that many guesses to kill a connection, it is not viable. If it is to guess a master secret, the solution is to use a one way hash. Guessing a specific token will not reveal anything of importance beyond being able to kill the connection.

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<p>But if you need that many guesses to kill a connection, it is not viable. If it is to guess a master secret, the solution is to use a one way hash. Guessing a specific token will not reveal anything of importance beyond being able to kill the connection.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/http/complete-settings
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  Date:   2019-08-27 (Tue, 27 Aug 2019)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md

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LPardue commented on this pull request.



>  
 A server MAY accept 0-RTT and subsequently provide different settings in its
 SETTINGS frame. If 0-RTT data is accepted by the server, its SETTINGS frame MUST
 NOT reduce any limits or alter any values that might be violated by the client
-with its 0-RTT data.  The server MAY omit settings from its SETTINGS frame which
-are unchanged from the initial value.
+with its 0-RTT data.  The server MUST include all settings which differ from
+their default values.  If a server accepts 0-RTT, but then sends a SETTINGS
+frame which reduces a setting the client understands or omits a value that was
+previously specified to have a non-default value, this MUST be treated as a
+connection error of type HTTP_SETTINGS_ERROR.

a bit tangential but the description of HTTP_SETTINGS_ERROR doesn't mention this case 

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<p><b>@LPardue</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2972#discussion_r318157881">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  
 A server MAY accept 0-RTT and subsequently provide different settings in its
 SETTINGS frame. If 0-RTT data is accepted by the server, its SETTINGS frame MUST
 NOT reduce any limits or alter any values that might be violated by the client
-with its 0-RTT data.  The server MAY omit settings from its SETTINGS frame which
-are unchanged from the initial value.
+with its 0-RTT data.  The server MUST include all settings which differ from
+their default values.  If a server accepts 0-RTT, but then sends a SETTINGS
+frame which reduces a setting the client understands or omits a value that was
+previously specified to have a non-default value, this MUST be treated as a
+connection error of type HTTP_SETTINGS_ERROR.
</pre>
<p>a bit tangential but the description of HTTP_SETTINGS_ERROR doesn't mention this case</p>

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@martinthomson That's a fair point.

Let me adjust my approach: use `PRP(stateless_reset_token)` internally comparing the stateless reset tokens. For example, we could use `AES(master_secret, stateless_reset_token)`. Then, we would not leak anything even if both the hash lookup or the comparison of the token values (now done by comparing the values permuted by AES) are not constant-time.

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<p>Let me adjust my approach: use <code>PRP(stateless_reset_token)</code> internally comparing the stateless reset tokens. For example, we could use <code>AES(master_secret, stateless_reset_token)</code>. Then, we would not leak anything even if both the hash lookup or the comparison of the token values (now done by comparing the values permuted by AES) are not constant-time.</p>

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OK for comparing each reset token, I think using PRP can be considered as a way of implementing constant-time comparison.

Then, the discussion would be if we should state something like: "lookup of stateless reset tokens MUST NOT leak timing information. Such lookup table can for example be implemented by using PRP(stateless_reset_token) instead of the stateless reset token itself, for lookup and comparing the values."



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<p>OK for comparing each reset token, I think using PRP can be considered as a way of implementing constant-time comparison.</p>
<p>Then, the discussion would be if we should state something like: "lookup of stateless reset tokens MUST NOT leak timing information. Such lookup table can for example be implemented by using PRP(stateless_reset_token) instead of the stateless reset token itself, for lookup and comparing the values."</p>

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Judging by the consensus call, the answer is largely "no objections," provided we do *something* before HTTP/3 ships.

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<p>Judging by the consensus call, the answer is largely "no objections," provided we do <em>something</em> before HTTP/3 ships.</p>

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  Remove PRIORITY

In all the discussions we have had on this, what has become clear is
that the complexity of the scheme we built in HTTP/2 wasn't well
founded in theory or practice.

Rather than try to port that across, this recognizes that while
prioritization is important, signaling is a problem we haven't solved
yet.

Closes #many issues.


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  Remove sentence about stream relationships

Closes #2924.


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@MikeBishop pushed 2 commits.

2455d4a7733c3849a4d26ad2bea9df3f4694095b  Remove PRIORITY
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<p><a href="https://github.com/MikeBishop" class="user-mention">@MikeBishop</a> pushed 2 commits.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
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      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a0c3d6e8da2bcc759c689bd1a7353c1e520a6617
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2019-08-27 (Tue, 27 Aug 2019)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md

  Log Message:
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  Remove PRIORITY (#2922)

* Remove PRIORITY

In all the discussions we have had on this, what has become clear is
that the complexity of the scheme we built in HTTP/2 wasn't well
founded in theory or practice.

Rather than try to port that across, this recognizes that while
prioritization is important, signaling is a problem we haven't solved
yet.

Closes #many issues.

* Remove sentence about stream relationships

Closes #2924.



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  Branch: refs/heads/http/complete-settings
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: 34778c30c9f7e077dffebec12bf06a5a1dcb51c8
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/34778c30c9f7e077dffebec12bf06a5a1dcb51c8
  Author: Kazuho Oku <kazuhooku@gmail.com>
  Date:   2019-08-27 (Tue, 27 Aug 2019)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md

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  clarify that an endpoint cannot block on SETTINGS (#2986)

* explain that and endpoint cannot expect the delivery of the peer's settings

* "SHOULD NOT", with a less extreme example used as clarification

* MUST NOT wait for peer's SETTINGS before sending one's own

* Revert "MUST NOT wait for peer's SETTINGS before sending one's own", as it's stated elsewhere (pointed out by @MikeBishop)

This reverts commit 4664b5c90834fce8e0affffcf66d697ddee2d3f7.

* MUST send SETTINGS, SHOULD NOT block, clarify why

* simplify to avoid endorsing such behavior



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Merged #2986 into http/complete-settings.

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>  
 A server MAY accept 0-RTT and subsequently provide different settings in its
 SETTINGS frame. If 0-RTT data is accepted by the server, its SETTINGS frame MUST
 NOT reduce any limits or alter any values that might be violated by the client
-with its 0-RTT data.  The server MAY omit settings from its SETTINGS frame which
-are unchanged from the initial value.
+with its 0-RTT data.  The server MUST include all settings which differ from
+their default values.  If a server accepts 0-RTT, but then sends a SETTINGS
+frame which reduces a setting the client understands or omits a value that was
+previously specified to have a non-default value, this MUST be treated as a
+connection error of type HTTP_SETTINGS_ERROR.

Honestly, that description looks a little overlong and overspecific anyway.  How about I just drop the examples and leave it as "An endpoint detected an error in the payload of a SETTINGS frame."?

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<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2972#discussion_r318236763">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  
 A server MAY accept 0-RTT and subsequently provide different settings in its
 SETTINGS frame. If 0-RTT data is accepted by the server, its SETTINGS frame MUST
 NOT reduce any limits or alter any values that might be violated by the client
-with its 0-RTT data.  The server MAY omit settings from its SETTINGS frame which
-are unchanged from the initial value.
+with its 0-RTT data.  The server MUST include all settings which differ from
+their default values.  If a server accepts 0-RTT, but then sends a SETTINGS
+frame which reduces a setting the client understands or omits a value that was
+previously specified to have a non-default value, this MUST be treated as a
+connection error of type HTTP_SETTINGS_ERROR.
</pre>
<p>Honestly, that description looks a little overlong and overspecific anyway.  How about I just drop the examples and leave it as "An endpoint detected an error in the payload of a SETTINGS frame."?</p>

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>  
 A server MAY accept 0-RTT and subsequently provide different settings in its
 SETTINGS frame. If 0-RTT data is accepted by the server, its SETTINGS frame MUST
 NOT reduce any limits or alter any values that might be violated by the client
-with its 0-RTT data.  The server MAY omit settings from its SETTINGS frame which
-are unchanged from the initial value.
+with its 0-RTT data.  The server MUST include all settings which differ from
+their default values.  If a server accepts 0-RTT, but then sends a SETTINGS
+frame which reduces a setting the client understands or omits a value that was
+previously specified to have a non-default value, this MUST be treated as a
+connection error of type HTTP_SETTINGS_ERROR.

Sgtm

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<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2972#discussion_r318243500">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  
 A server MAY accept 0-RTT and subsequently provide different settings in its
 SETTINGS frame. If 0-RTT data is accepted by the server, its SETTINGS frame MUST
 NOT reduce any limits or alter any values that might be violated by the client
-with its 0-RTT data.  The server MAY omit settings from its SETTINGS frame which
-are unchanged from the initial value.
+with its 0-RTT data.  The server MUST include all settings which differ from
+their default values.  If a server accepts 0-RTT, but then sends a SETTINGS
+frame which reduces a setting the client understands or omits a value that was
+previously specified to have a non-default value, this MUST be treated as a
+connection error of type HTTP_SETTINGS_ERROR.
</pre>
<p>Sgtm</p>

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aea79ee436527e0d3b61c0476a050ec5690b994f  Less specific error description


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  Send complete SETTINGS (#2972)

* SETTINGS must be complete

* I do not recall.

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Co-Authored-By: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>

* Rewrap

* clarify that an endpoint cannot block on SETTINGS (#2986)

* explain that and endpoint cannot expect the delivery of the peer's settings

* "SHOULD NOT", with a less extreme example used as clarification

* MUST NOT wait for peer's SETTINGS before sending one's own

* Revert "MUST NOT wait for peer's SETTINGS before sending one's own", as it's stated elsewhere (pointed out by @MikeBishop)

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* MUST send SETTINGS, SHOULD NOT block, clarify why

* simplify to avoid endorsing such behavior

* Less specific error description



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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: d286124c27663a77450f78f609c60da560f60bf8
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d286124c27663a77450f78f609c60da560f60bf8
  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2019-08-27 (Tue, 27 Aug 2019)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md

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  Add headings to Security Considerations (#2975)

* Add headings to Security Considerations

* Martin's suggested wording



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  Branch: refs/heads/http/initial_iana
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Closed #2442 via #2974.

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19f882473caf114683c31c8f1e5f46fa28ce93c5  Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md


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This doesn't add rationale.  It doesn't have to.  See the issue
discussion for that rationale.

Closes #2382.


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  Merge pull request #2988 from quicwg/client-new-token

Only servers send NEW_TOKEN


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8174d8c940af257f7b3f38ddf7c64da27e3d9d9e  Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md


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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: fede0969fc2c5f113039d0367e2cc27f902682ef
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/fede0969fc2c5f113039d0367e2cc27f902682ef
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2019-08-26 (Mon, 26 Aug 2019)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md

  Log Message:
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  DCID in short headers

Invariants text was unclear on where the Destination Connection ID field
was and how big it could be.

Closes #2335.


  Commit: 7119afb175aecc071b73857f349d6c258e266795
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7119afb175aecc071b73857f349d6c258e266795
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2019-08-27 (Tue, 27 Aug 2019)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Ian's suggestion


  Commit: 1cfe40ca61a019cdf884ffbe59b390cdd54fadd2
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1cfe40ca61a019cdf884ffbe59b390cdd54fadd2
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2019-08-28 (Wed, 28 Aug 2019)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #2991 from quicwg/unclarity-short

DCID in short headers


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/2ae76f6b36d5...1cfe40ca61a0


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MikeBishop requested changes on this pull request.

I think removing the sentence entirely is the wrong approach.

> @@ -1279,8 +1279,7 @@ An application-layer protocol MAY restrict the QUIC versions that it can operate
 over.  Servers MUST select an application protocol compatible with the QUIC
 version that the client has selected.  If the server cannot select a compatible
 combination of application protocol and QUIC version, it MUST abort the
-connection. A client MUST abort a connection if the server picks an incompatible
-combination of QUIC version and ALPN identifier.

This requirement is still true.  If you object to the implication of the server picking a version, maybe this should be "A client MUST abort a connection if the server picks an application protocol incompatible with the protocol version being used."?

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<p><b>@MikeBishop</b> requested changes on this pull request.</p>

<p>I think removing the sentence entirely is the wrong approach.</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2802#discussion_r318320960">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1279,8 +1279,7 @@ An application-layer protocol MAY restrict the QUIC versions that it can operate
 over.  Servers MUST select an application protocol compatible with the QUIC
 version that the client has selected.  If the server cannot select a compatible
 combination of application protocol and QUIC version, it MUST abort the
-connection. A client MUST abort a connection if the server picks an incompatible
-combination of QUIC version and ALPN identifier.
</pre>
<p>This requirement is still true.  If you object to the implication of the server picking a version, maybe this should be "A client MUST abort a connection if the server picks an application protocol incompatible with the protocol version being used."?</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/ianswett-fix-loss-detection
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  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2019-08-27 (Tue, 27 Aug 2019)

  Changed paths:
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<p><a href="https://github.com/janaiyengar" class="user-mention">@janaiyengar</a> pushed 1 commit.</p>

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janaiyengar requested changes on this pull request.



> @@ -580,14 +580,17 @@ data at Handshake encryption MUST be retransmitted before any ApplicationData
 data.  If no data can be sent, then the PTO alarm MUST NOT be armed until
 data has been received from the client.
 
-Because the server could be blocked until more packets are received, the client
-MUST ensure that the retransmission timer is set if the client does not yet
-have 1-RTT keys.  If the probe timer expires before the client has 1-RTT keys,
-it is possible that the client may not have any crypto data to retransmit.
-However, the client MUST send a new packet to allow the server to continue
-sending data.  At this stage in the connection, when few to none RTT samples
-have been generated, it is possible that the probe timer expiration is due to
-an incorrect RTT estimate at the client. To allow the client to improve its RTT
+Since the server could be blocked until more packets are received from the
+client, it is the client's responsibility to send packets to unblock the server
+until it is certain that the server has finished its address validation
+(see Section 8 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}).  That is, the client MUST set the
+probe timer if one of the following conditions is true: the client
+does not yet have 1-RTT keys, or the client has not received an acknowledgement

```suggestion
does not yet have handshake confirmation, or the client has not received an acknowledgement
```

> @@ -1190,9 +1193,13 @@ SetLossDetectionTimer():
     return
 
   // Don't arm timer if there are no ack-eliciting packets
-  // in flight and the handshake is complete.
-  if (endpoint is client with 1-RTT keys &&
-      no ack-eliciting packets in flight):
+  // in flight and the endpoint is a server. Arm the
+  // timer until the client has received a Handshake ACK
+  // or has completed the handshake.
+  if (no ack-eliciting packets in flight &&
+      (endpoint is server ||
+       has 1-RTT keys ||
+       has received Handshake ACK)):

Chatting about this at the editors meeting, @martinthomson pointed out that this isn't quite right. Here's my reformulation that I believe is the right condition:
"endpoint is server || until the handshake is confirmed || has received Handshake ACK"

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> @@ -1190,9 +1193,13 @@ SetLossDetectionTimer():
     return
 
   // Don't arm timer if there are no ack-eliciting packets
-  // in flight and the handshake is complete.
-  if (endpoint is client with 1-RTT keys &&
-      no ack-eliciting packets in flight):
+  // in flight and the endpoint is a server.  Do arm the
+  // timer until the client has received a Handshake ACK
+  // or has completed the handshake.
+  if (no ack-eliciting packets in flight &&
+      (endpoint is server ||
+       has 1-RTT keys ||
+       has received Handshake ACK)):

The prose I would use here is:

An endpoint always keeps the timer running if it has an ack-eliciting packet that has not been acknowledged.

A client keeps the timer running during the handshake until it has confirmed that the server is no longer limited in how much it can send.  The server needs to acknowledge a Handshake packet or a 1-RTT packet from the client to demonstrate this.

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<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2907#discussion_r318325088">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1190,9 +1193,13 @@ SetLossDetectionTimer():
     return
 
   // Don&#39;t arm timer if there are no ack-eliciting packets
-  // in flight and the handshake is complete.
-  if (endpoint is client with 1-RTT keys &amp;&amp;
-      no ack-eliciting packets in flight):
+  // in flight and the endpoint is a server.  Do arm the
+  // timer until the client has received a Handshake ACK
+  // or has completed the handshake.
+  if (no ack-eliciting packets in flight &amp;&amp;
+      (endpoint is server ||
+       has 1-RTT keys ||
+       has received Handshake ACK)):
</pre>
<p>The prose I would use here is:</p>
<p>An endpoint always keeps the timer running if it has an ack-eliciting packet that has not been acknowledged.</p>
<p>A client keeps the timer running during the handshake until it has confirmed that the server is no longer limited in how much it can send.  The server needs to acknowledge a Handshake packet or a 1-RTT packet from the client to demonstrate this.</p>

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Using a PRP like that requires touching all the values in constant time anyway, so that's just a more expensive method of doing a constant-time comparison.

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<p>Using a PRP like that requires touching all the values in constant time anyway, so that's just a more expensive method of doing a constant-time comparison.</p>

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> @@ -1190,9 +1193,13 @@ SetLossDetectionTimer():
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   // Don't arm timer if there are no ack-eliciting packets

```suggestion
  // Cancel the timer if there are no ack-eliciting packets
```

> @@ -1190,9 +1193,13 @@ SetLossDetectionTimer():
     return
 
   // Don't arm timer if there are no ack-eliciting packets
-  // in flight and the handshake is complete.
-  if (endpoint is client with 1-RTT keys &&
-      no ack-eliciting packets in flight):
+  // in flight and the endpoint is a server. Arm the

```suggestion
  // in flight and the endpoint is a server. Do not cancel the
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I do not think that it would be expensive. Rather, I think using PRP might be the simplest and cheapest way.

The hash table needs to use be resistant to hash collision DoS attacks, because the stateless reset tokens are supplied by the peers. Therefore, to calculate the hash key, I'd assume that endpoints would be using some function that takes a master secret and a stateless reset token. That function can be a PRP.

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<p>I do not think that it would be expensive. Rather, I think using PRP might be the simplest and cheapest way.</p>
<p>The hash table needs to use be resistant to hash collision DoS attacks, because the stateless reset tokens are supplied by the peers. Therefore, to calculate the hash key, I'd assume that endpoints would be using some function that takes a master secret and a stateless reset token. That function can be a PRP.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: 4ef3e0d1d3eab100a4efe18955498da0fc147674
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4ef3e0d1d3eab100a4efe18955498da0fc147674
  Author: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
  Date:   2019-08-26 (Mon, 26 Aug 2019)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  No point in coalescing Retry or VN

Closes #2407.


  Commit: 5b02f13019139491eaa6c7a2373b1ec5810ff56c
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  Merge pull request #2989 from quicwg/coalesce-retry-vn

No point in coalescing Retry or VN


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/1cfe40ca61a0...5b02f1301913


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If you are using a hash table, sure.  But if you can narrow the values down to those tokens that were associated with packets sent on that path, a list would be a better storage method and then a straight constant-time comparison is much simpler.

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<p>If you are using a hash table, sure.  But if you can narrow the values down to those tokens that were associated with packets sent on that path, a list would be a better storage method and then a straight constant-time comparison is much simpler.</p>

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Yeah I am not sure if you would want to maintain a hash table using paths as keys just for that purpose. IIUC, at the moment, there is no need for such a hash table on the server side.

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<p>Yeah I am not sure if you would want to maintain a hash table using paths as keys just for that purpose. IIUC, at the moment, there is no need for such a hash table on the server side.</p>

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@marten-seemann pushed 1 commit.

818290b0858e7b6640245dd4759cd6f336fdbf9f  apply Mike's suggestion


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> @@ -1279,8 +1279,7 @@ An application-layer protocol MAY restrict the QUIC versions that it can operate
 over.  Servers MUST select an application protocol compatible with the QUIC
 version that the client has selected.  If the server cannot select a compatible
 combination of application protocol and QUIC version, it MUST abort the
-connection. A client MUST abort a connection if the server picks an incompatible
-combination of QUIC version and ALPN identifier.

I like that one. Just updated the PR.

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<p><b>@marten-seemann</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2802#discussion_r318369865">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1279,8 +1279,7 @@ An application-layer protocol MAY restrict the QUIC versions that it can operate
 over.  Servers MUST select an application protocol compatible with the QUIC
 version that the client has selected.  If the server cannot select a compatible
 combination of application protocol and QUIC version, it MUST abort the
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-combination of QUIC version and ALPN identifier.
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<p>I like that one. Just updated the PR.</p>

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I think that Mike was suggesting that a replacement for the text.  That is, you can remove the second-to-last sentence of this paragraph now.

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<p>I think that Mike was suggesting that a replacement for the text.  That is, you can remove the second-to-last sentence of this paragraph now.</p>

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In [tls draft](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-tls.html#rfc.section.5.4.1)
Section 5.4.1 figure 4 shows a sample algorithm for applying header protection:
```
mask = header_protection(hp_key, sample)

pn_length = (packet[0] & 0x03) + 1
if (packet[0] & 0x80) == 0x80:
   # Long header: 4 bits masked
   packet[0] ^= mask[0] & 0x0f
else:
   # Short header: 5 bits masked
   packet[0] ^= mask[0] & 0x1f

# pn_offset is the start of the Packet Number field.
packet[pn_offset:pn_offset+pn_length] ^= mask[1:1+pn_length]
```
I think pn_length should be calculate after decode packet[0], like:
```
mask = header_protection(hp_key, sample)

if (packet[0] & 0x80) == 0x80:
   # Long header: 4 bits masked
   packet[0] ^= mask[0] & 0x0f
else:
   # Short header: 5 bits masked
   packet[0] ^= mask[0] & 0x1f

pn_length = (packet[0] & 0x03) + 1 // move here

# pn_offset is the start of the Packet Number field.
packet[pn_offset:pn_offset+pn_length] ^= mask[1:1+pn_length]
```

Do I have any misunderstanding? 
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<p>In <a href="https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-tls.html#rfc.section.5.4.1" rel="nofollow">tls draft</a><br>
Section 5.4.1 figure 4 shows a sample algorithm for applying header protection:</p>
<pre><code>mask = header_protection(hp_key, sample)

pn_length = (packet[0] &amp; 0x03) + 1
if (packet[0] &amp; 0x80) == 0x80:
   # Long header: 4 bits masked
   packet[0] ^= mask[0] &amp; 0x0f
else:
   # Short header: 5 bits masked
   packet[0] ^= mask[0] &amp; 0x1f

# pn_offset is the start of the Packet Number field.
packet[pn_offset:pn_offset+pn_length] ^= mask[1:1+pn_length]
</code></pre>
<p>I think pn_length should be calculate after decode packet[0], like:</p>
<pre><code>mask = header_protection(hp_key, sample)

if (packet[0] &amp; 0x80) == 0x80:
   # Long header: 4 bits masked
   packet[0] ^= mask[0] &amp; 0x0f
else:
   # Short header: 5 bits masked
   packet[0] ^= mask[0] &amp; 0x1f

pn_length = (packet[0] &amp; 0x03) + 1 // move here

# pn_offset is the start of the Packet Number field.
packet[pn_offset:pn_offset+pn_length] ^= mask[1:1+pn_length]
</code></pre>
<p>Do I have any misunderstanding?<br>
Thanks a lot!</p>

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The algorithm is for applying header protection. The text just above says:

> Removing header protection only differs in the order in which the packet number length (pn_length) is determined.

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<p>The algorithm is for applying header protection. The text just above says:</p>
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<p>Removing header protection only differs in the order in which the packet number length (pn_length) is determined.</p>
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> The algorithm is for applying header protection. The text just above says:
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> > Removing header protection only differs in the order in which the packet number length (pn_length) is determined.

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Fixed Bit Must set to 1:
> Fixed Bit:
The next bit (0x40) of byte 0 is set to 1. Packets containing a zero value for this bit are not valid packets in this version and MUST be discarded.


the first byte in Version Negotiation Packet
```
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|1|  Unused (7) |
```
there is 7 bits unused, including Fixed Bit.

> The value in the Unused field is selected randomly by the server. Clients MUST ignore the value of this field. Servers SHOULD set the most significant bit of this field (0x40) to 1 so that Version Negotiation packets appear to have the Fixed Bit field.

It's said that `Clients MUST ignore the value of this field.` and `Servers SHOULD set the most significant bit of this field (0x40) to 1`. 
If Client must ignore the value(including Fixed Bit), why server should set Fixed Bit?

I'm confused about the describe. I think maybe it want to express it like this:
> Clients MUST ignore the value of this field *except Fixed Bit(0x40)*. Servers SHOULD set the most significant bit of this field (0x40) to 1 .......

Do I have any misunderstanding? thanks a lot

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<p>Fixed Bit Must set to 1:</p>
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<p>Fixed Bit:<br>
The next bit (0x40) of byte 0 is set to 1. Packets containing a zero value for this bit are not valid packets in this version and MUST be discarded.</p>
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<p>the first byte in Version Negotiation Packet</p>
<pre><code>+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|1|  Unused (7) |
</code></pre>
<p>there is 7 bits unused, including Fixed Bit.</p>
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<p>The value in the Unused field is selected randomly by the server. Clients MUST ignore the value of this field. Servers SHOULD set the most significant bit of this field (0x40) to 1 so that Version Negotiation packets appear to have the Fixed Bit field.</p>
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<p>It's said that <code>Clients MUST ignore the value of this field.</code> and <code>Servers SHOULD set the most significant bit of this field (0x40) to 1</code>.<br>
If Client must ignore the value(including Fixed Bit), why server should set Fixed Bit?</p>
<p>I'm confused about the describe. I think maybe it want to express it like this:</p>
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<p>Clients MUST ignore the value of this field <em>except Fixed Bit(0x40)</em>. Servers SHOULD set the most significant bit of this field (0x40) to 1 .......</p>
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<p>Do I have any misunderstanding? thanks a lot</p>

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A version negotiation packet is not version specific so the rule you refer to does not apply.

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<p>A version negotiation packet is not version specific so the rule you refer to does not apply.</p>

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> A version negotiation packet is not version specific so the rule you refer to does not apply.

I'm confused about the describe.
If Client must ignore the value(including Fixed Bit), why server should set Fixed Bit?

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<p>I'm confused about the describe.<br>
If Client must ignore the value(including Fixed Bit), why server should set Fixed Bit?</p>

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I'm actually not convinced that referencing 8441 will help clarify things here because the extension is H2 specific. No H3-equivalent exists (or at least, no H3 setting to enable the equivalent CONNECT behaviour exists). 

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<p>I'm actually not convinced that referencing 8441 will help clarify things here because the extension is H2 specific. No H3-equivalent exists (or at least, no H3 setting to enable the equivalent CONNECT behaviour exists).</p>

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I agree. I think referencing 8441 might just add to the confusion - even if something *like* 8441 certainly can be introduced.

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<p>I agree. I think referencing 8441 might just add to the confusion - even if something <em>like</em> 8441 certainly can be introduced.</p>

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Some others have shown interest for defining/framing this capability in HTTP/3. I think that activity should consider ore broadly what text makes sense in the core document.

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This is the most extreme form of fixing #2809, which was about rationalizing HTTP_WRONG_STREAM and HTTP_UNEXPECTED_FRAME. 

In a nutshell, what it means is that the same code is used when an endpoint that detects an error in the frame itself, or if the frame is on the wrong stream type or sent in the wrong direction.

To paraphrase @MikeBishop slightly from the list discussion, this might be too much of a change for  a protocol on the edge of late-stage process. 

Is this a clear improvement over what we have today (even if today is a bit clunky and requires a little extra code? I&#39;m undecided but in the interest of resolving the conversation one way or the other I present this PR.

 
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  * replace HTTP_WRONG_STREAM and HTTP_UNEXPECTED_FRAME for HTTP_FRAME_ERROR

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<p>This is the most extreme form of fixing <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="457933751" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2809" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2809/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2809">#2809</a>, which was about rationalizing HTTP_WRONG_STREAM and HTTP_UNEXPECTED_FRAME.</p>
<p>In a nutshell, what it means is that the same code is used when an endpoint that detects an error in the frame itself, or if the frame is on the wrong stream type or sent in the wrong direction.</p>
<p>To paraphrase <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/hovercards?user_id=4273797" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/MikeBishop">@MikeBishop</a> slightly from the list discussion, this might be too much of a change for  a protocol on the edge of late-stage process.</p>
<p>Is this a clear improvement over what we have today (even if today is a bit clunky and requires a little extra code? I'm undecided but in the interest of resolving the conversation one way or the other I present this PR.</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>replace HTTP_WRONG_STREAM and HTTP_UNEXPECTED_FRAME for HTTP_FRAME_ERROR</li>
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<h4>File Changes</h4>
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    <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2996/files#diff-0">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>
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No, I was suggesting restoring the sentence that was there before, but with alternate wording to address @marten-seemann's concern.  Now the server MUST abort if it can't pick a proper combination, and the client MUST abort if the server fails to abide by that requirement.

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<p>No, I was suggesting restoring the sentence that was there before, but with alternate wording to address <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/hovercards?user_id=1478487" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/marten-seemann">@marten-seemann</a>'s concern.  Now the server MUST abort if it can't pick a proper combination, and the client MUST abort if the server fails to abide by that requirement.</p>

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Fair enough.  Let's merge the rebased version, then, and leave the right way to do this for an H3 extension.

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<p>Fair enough.  Let's merge the rebased version, then, and leave the right way to do this for an H3 extension.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
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  Changed paths:
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Fixes #2692, fixes #2693.

So it turns out that there are two different things called &quot;reserved frame types&quot; in HTTP/3.  There are the types reserved for greasing, and there are the types reserved to minimize confusion at code point overlap with HTTP/2.  This PR makes three changes, separable if there&#39;s controversy:
- Adds &quot;Reserved&quot; to the frame type table, pointing to the Reserved Types section, and indicates they can be sent on all stream types.
- Clarifies in the Reserved section that GREASE frames can be sent on any open stream
- Calls out the reserved-for-H2 types as MUST NOT send, MAY error.
- Clarifies in the Extensibility section that, while you ignore frame types you don&#39;t know, you don&#39;t ignore that it wasn&#39;t the frame you were expecting if a particular type was required to be in that position.
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  * Additional clarity on reserved frame types and the other reserved frame types

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<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #2692.">Fixes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="443132144" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2692" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2692/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2692">#2692</a>, <span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #2693.">fixes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="443134556" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2693" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2693/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2693">#2693</a>.</p>
<p>So it turns out that there are two different things called "reserved frame types" in HTTP/3.  There are the types reserved for greasing, and there are the types reserved to minimize confusion at code point overlap with HTTP/2.  This PR makes three changes, separable if there's controversy:</p>
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<li>Adds "Reserved" to the frame type table, pointing to the Reserved Types section, and indicates they can be sent on all stream types.</li>
<li>Clarifies in the Reserved section that GREASE frames can be sent on any open stream</li>
<li>Calls out the reserved-for-H2 types as MUST NOT send, MAY error.</li>
<li>Clarifies in the Extensibility section that, while you ignore frame types you don't know, you don't ignore that it wasn't the frame you were expecting if a particular type was required to be in that position.</li>
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Closed #2726.

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Fixed in #2972:
> Each endpoint SHOULD use these initial values to send messages before the peer's SETTINGS frame has arrived, as packets carrying the settings can be lost or delayed.  When the SETTINGS frame arrives, any settings are changed to their new values.
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> This removes the need to wait for the SETTINGS frame before sending messages. Endpoints MUST NOT require any data to be received from the peer prior to sending the SETTINGS frame; settings MUST be sent as soon as the transport is ready to send data.

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<p>Fixed in <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="481711771" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2972" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2972/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2972">#2972</a>:</p>
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<p>Each endpoint SHOULD use these initial values to send messages before the peer's SETTINGS frame has arrived, as packets carrying the settings can be lost or delayed.  When the SETTINGS frame arrives, any settings are changed to their new values.</p>
<p>This removes the need to wait for the SETTINGS frame before sending messages. Endpoints MUST NOT require any data to be received from the peer prior to sending the SETTINGS frame; settings MUST be sent as soon as the transport is ready to send data.</p>
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The different value-judgement terms are corrected by the flurry of settings PRs that @LPardue already did.  HTTP_FRAME_ERROR has replaced malformed, and UNEXPECTED_FRAME and WRONG_STREAM are reasonably descriptive (though see #2809, #2996).

We do still have some variation between HTTP_THING_DESCRIPTOR, HTTP_THING_ERROR, and HTTP_DESCRIPTOR_THING (e.g. HTTP_UNEXPECTED_FRAME versus HTTP_REQUEST_REJECTED) that might be worth reconciling.

Is it worth turning into HTTP_FRAME_UNEXPECTED?

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<p>Is it worth turning into HTTP_FRAME_UNEXPECTED?</p>

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Fixes #2816 by saying that, since error codes are extensible, you can&#39;t treat the receipt of an error code you don&#39;t understand or don&#39;t think you should have gotten as an error itself.  (Though it can still be an error that the stream closed, regardless of the error code.)

(Which leads to the question, should we be greasing the error code space?)
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  * Error codes can&#39;t cause errors

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    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (6)

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<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #2816.">Fixes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-id="458057957" data-permission-text="Issue title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2816" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2816/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2816">#2816</a> by saying that, since error codes are extensible, you can't treat the receipt of an error code you don't understand or don't think you should have gotten as an error itself.  (Though it can still be an error that the stream closed, regardless of the error code.)</p>
<p>(Which leads to the question, should we be greasing the error code space?)</p>

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> Which leads to the question, should we be greasing the error code space?)

Yes! I would create a grease stream and it could be closed (stop sending and/or reset) by peers.

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<p>Which leads to the question, should we be greasing the error code space?)</p>
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<p>Yes! I would create a grease stream and it could be closed (stop sending and/or reset) by peers.</p>

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OK, I see now.  Yes, this WFM.



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<p>OK, I see now.  Yes, this WFM.</p>

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That seems to have very narrow applicability.  Would you only be permitted to send a greasing error code in that case?

Or to put the question differently, what would happen if you decided to randomly turn a subset of the semantic-ful error codes you generate into greasing codes?

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<p>That seems to have very narrow applicability.  Would you only be permitted to send a greasing error code in that case?</p>
<p>Or to put the question differently, what would happen if you decided to randomly turn a subset of the semantic-ful error codes you generate into greasing codes?</p>

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Per the language of this PR, I think that would be fine.  Possibly with the exception of the errors that are supposed to inform behavior, like _REJECTED and perhaps EARLY_RESPONSE.

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<p>Per the language of this PR, I think that would be fine.  Possibly with the exception of the errors that are supposed to inform behavior, like _REJECTED and perhaps EARLY_RESPONSE.</p>

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If I understand correctly, the decoder stream buffer which endpoint has to keep grows indefinitely if encoder-side app does not return back flow control credit.
The number of Header Acknowledgement instruction is bounded by the number of max blocked streams which decoder can specify.
On the other hand, the number of Stream Cancellation is not bounded.  So if encoder-side app keeps resetting stream without sending MAX_STREAM_DATA, decoder-side has to keep all closed stream in decoder stream.  I'm not sure this has been discussed already.



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<p>If I understand correctly, the decoder stream buffer which endpoint has to keep grows indefinitely if encoder-side app does not return back flow control credit.<br>
The number of Header Acknowledgement instruction is bounded by the number of max blocked streams which decoder can specify.<br>
On the other hand, the number of Stream Cancellation is not bounded.  So if encoder-side app keeps resetting stream without sending MAX_STREAM_DATA, decoder-side has to keep all closed stream in decoder stream.  I'm not sure this has been discussed already.</p>

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I like this change.

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The solution to this seems implementation-dependent, but implementations should place a bound on the amount of data waiting to be sent on the decoder stream.

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<p>The solution to this seems implementation-dependent, but implementations should place a bound on the amount of data waiting to be sent on the decoder stream.</p>

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In celebration of #3000, consider renaming the protocol to HTTP/3000

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Closed #3000.

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Hah.  No.

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