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While increasing the limit will certainly help, this introduces a really unpleasant flakiness in the protocol. QUIC, so far, has the property that no amount or pattern of packet loss will lead to a protocol violation (it might lead to a connection timeout if all packets are blackholed, but that's a different kind of error). This means that when running QUIC in production, screening for (transport-level) errors will be very useful for finding bugs in implementations.

My fear regarding #3547 is that no matter how high we choose the limit, there will always be a loss pattern that will trigger a protocol violation.

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<p>While increasing the limit will certainly help, this introduces a really unpleasant flakiness in the protocol. QUIC, so far, has the property that no amount or pattern of packet loss will lead to a protocol violation (it might lead to a connection timeout if all packets are blackholed, but that's a different kind of error). This means that when running QUIC in production, screening for (transport-level) errors will be very useful for finding bugs in implementations.</p>
<p>My fear regarding <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="588711941" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3547" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3547/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3547">#3547</a> is that no matter how high we choose the limit, there will always be a loss pattern that will trigger a protocol violation.</p>

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> My fear regarding #3547 is that no matter how high we choose the limit, there will always be a loss pattern that will trigger a protocol violation.

Thank you for raising the concern, I think the recommended behavior when exceeding that limit is to stop sending RCID frames for some sequence numbers rather than triggering a protocol violation. That's actually what I had in mind hence called it "leaky."

The benefit of stopping retiring some sequence numbers is that the worst case becomes endpoints running out of CIDs - something that is expected to happen on ordinary connections too. Note also that in HTTP/3, reestablishing a connection in 0-RTT is always a viable option.

To summarize, I think that the concern can be resolved for HTTP/3 by changing the recommended behavior from resetting the connection to stop sending RCIF frames for some sequence numbers.

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<p>My fear regarding <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="588711941" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3547" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3547/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3547">#3547</a> is that no matter how high we choose the limit, there will always be a loss pattern that will trigger a protocol violation.</p>
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<p>Thank you for raising the concern, I think the recommended behavior when exceeding that limit is to stop sending RCID frames for some sequence numbers rather than triggering a protocol violation. That's actually what I had in mind hence called it "leaky."</p>
<p>The benefit of stopping retiring some sequence numbers is that the worst case becomes endpoints running out of CIDs - something that is expected to happen on ordinary connections too. Note also that in HTTP/3, reestablishing a connection in 0-RTT is always a viable option.</p>
<p>To summarize, I think that the concern can be resolved for HTTP/3 by changing the recommended behavior from resetting the connection to stop sending RCIF frames for some sequence numbers.</p>

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> @@ -5595,6 +5595,14 @@ frame multiple times MUST NOT be treated as a connection error.  A receiver can
 use the sequence number supplied in the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame to identify new
 connection IDs from old ones.
 
+When receiving a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame carrying a sequence number greater than
+those that have been previously received, an endpoint MUST check that the sum of

Something like this seems like a sensible check I thought we already had?  If not, adding it seems separable from this PR?

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3553#discussion_r401617832">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -5595,6 +5595,14 @@ frame multiple times MUST NOT be treated as a connection error.  A receiver can
 use the sequence number supplied in the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame to identify new
 connection IDs from old ones.
 
+When receiving a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame carrying a sequence number greater than
+those that have been previously received, an endpoint MUST check that the sum of
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<p>Something like this seems like a sensible check I thought we already had?  If not, adding it seems separable from this PR?</p>

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@kazuho I don't think not sending RCID frames is that easy.  Tracking something that needs to be sent consumes comparable state to tracking it in flight.  Or are you suggesting a different algorithm that indicates a RCID frame doesn't need to be sent?

If the peer has to wait for one Retire Prior To to take effect before it's increased again, that leaves only the peer migrating really quickly and lost ACKs as the unbounded case. As @kazuho said, I think it's more likely a well-behaved peer would run out of CIDs in this case than any other failure mode.  I previously suggested stopping sending out NCID frames when the RCID frame limit had been reached to force the issue, but that just changes who has to close the connection.

FWIW, we already have sanity checks where our implementation closes the connection when a datastructure becomes too large.  The limits are high enough that they're almost never hit unless there is a bug, but they've been helpful in finding bugs.  I would advocate everyone have these.  @marten-seemann You'll never get to 0 transport errors.  Some implementations will have a bug, and some peers or servers will have faulty or corrupted memory.  For example, in Google QUIC we found we received the ClientHello on a stream besides 1 surprisingly often.

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<p><a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/kazuho/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/kazuho">@kazuho</a> I don't think not sending RCID frames is that easy.  Tracking something that needs to be sent consumes comparable state to tracking it in flight.  Or are you suggesting a different algorithm that indicates a RCID frame doesn't need to be sent?</p>
<p>If the peer has to wait for one Retire Prior To to take effect before it's increased again, that leaves only the peer migrating really quickly and lost ACKs as the unbounded case. As <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/kazuho/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/kazuho">@kazuho</a> said, I think it's more likely a well-behaved peer would run out of CIDs in this case than any other failure mode.  I previously suggested stopping sending out NCID frames when the RCID frame limit had been reached to force the issue, but that just changes who has to close the connection.</p>
<p>FWIW, we already have sanity checks where our implementation closes the connection when a datastructure becomes too large.  The limits are high enough that they're almost never hit unless there is a bug, but they've been helpful in finding bugs.  I would advocate everyone have these.  <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/marten-seemann/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/marten-seemann">@marten-seemann</a> You'll never get to 0 transport errors.  Some implementations will have a bug, and some peers or servers will have faulty or corrupted memory.  For example, in Google QUIC we found we received the ClientHello on a stream besides 1 surprisingly often.</p>

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> @@ -1156,6 +1156,34 @@ SHOULD ignore any such packets.
 
 Servers MUST drop incoming packets under all other circumstances.
 
+### Considerations for 5-tuple routing architectures
+
+QUIC endpoints can be deployed behind a 5-tuple based routing architecture that
+delivers packets based on both the source and destination IP addresses and
+ports. When routing depends on addresses that the endpoint does not control,
+changes to the IP address or port of peers could result in packets being routed
+to a different server. The following actions could mitigate or resolve
+operational and security issues in this case:
+
+* Endpoints can use an out-of-band mechanism to deliver packets to the correct
+destination or transfer state from the original destination.
+
+* A server can request that a connection be migrated to an address that is
+unique using the preferred_address transport parameter. For example, the initial

It seems like the property we're intending to talk about is not uniqueness across clients, but an address that reaches that server specifically rather than a group of servers.  (Or reaches a smaller group of servers capable of internal routing based on CID, which amounts to the same thing.)  Perhaps the right way to express this is "an address that does not rely on 5-tuple routing"?

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<p><b>@MikeBishop</b> approved this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3536#discussion_r401660668">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1156,6 +1156,34 @@ SHOULD ignore any such packets.
 
 Servers MUST drop incoming packets under all other circumstances.
 
+### Considerations for 5-tuple routing architectures
+
+QUIC endpoints can be deployed behind a 5-tuple based routing architecture that
+delivers packets based on both the source and destination IP addresses and
+ports. When routing depends on addresses that the endpoint does not control,
+changes to the IP address or port of peers could result in packets being routed
+to a different server. The following actions could mitigate or resolve
+operational and security issues in this case:
+
+* Endpoints can use an out-of-band mechanism to deliver packets to the correct
+destination or transfer state from the original destination.
+
+* A server can request that a connection be migrated to an address that is
+unique using the preferred_address transport parameter. For example, the initial
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<p>It seems like the property we're intending to talk about is not uniqueness across clients, but an address that reaches that server specifically rather than a group of servers.  (Or reaches a smaller group of servers capable of internal routing based on CID, which amounts to the same thing.)  Perhaps the right way to express this is "an address that does not rely on 5-tuple routing"?</p>

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I'll note that prohibiting a 0 length CID doesn't actually ensure the server's IP isn't unique, though it does remove an incentive to make it unique.

I'd like to leave the option to switch to a zero-length CID later in the connection, and I think I'd be fine with 4 if we allowed that.

An easy example is a large upload.  I mostly don't care about the CID, but if I'm uploading a 10GB file, maybe saving some bytes matters.  Also, if you're constantly filling the pipe, NAT rebinds are extremely unlikely.

Another example is an environment like a datacenter where there are no NATs and routes are very stable, unless a peer intentionally changes it, so the 5-tuple is sufficient.  In that case, the ideal operating condition is to typically use a 0 byte CID and switch to a non-0 length anytime a peer changes IP or port.  Changing port has some clear benefits in some cases, so it's in no way a threoretical use case.  @nibanks may have thoughts on this range of use case as well.

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<p>I'll note that prohibiting a 0 length CID doesn't actually ensure the server's IP isn't unique, though it does remove an incentive to make it unique.</p>
<p>I'd like to leave the option to switch to a zero-length CID later in the connection, and I think I'd be fine with 4 if we allowed that.</p>
<p>An easy example is a large upload.  I mostly don't care about the CID, but if I'm uploading a 10GB file, maybe saving some bytes matters.  Also, if you're constantly filling the pipe, NAT rebinds are extremely unlikely.</p>
<p>Another example is an environment like a datacenter where there are no NATs and routes are very stable, unless a peer intentionally changes it, so the 5-tuple is sufficient.  In that case, the ideal operating condition is to typically use a 0 byte CID and switch to a non-0 length anytime a peer changes IP or port.  Changing port has some clear benefits in some cases, so it's in no way a threoretical use case.  <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/nibanks/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/nibanks">@nibanks</a> may have thoughts on this range of use case as well.</p>

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> Given you need to track largest acknowledged locally(ie: not only in the in-flight ACK frame), I don't think there are any problems there.
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> I have two cases in mind where the largest acked could validly decrease:

Perhaps it's a naive model, but I had envisioned an implementation remembering a chain of ranges of packet numbers it had received or not.  The implementation would save space by forgetting the earliest packet numbers when the chain got too long, and would construct an ACK frame out of the latest set of these ranges it had room for.

In that mental model, at least, there's not really room for the idea that you might drop the largest-acked frame number from your memory because it's too old -- it's always at the most-recent end of your chain, even if you currently happen to be receiving packets that fill in the middle for some implementation-specific reason.  (Implementation-specific *to the peer*, which you obviously can't know about or code for!)

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<p>Given you need to track largest acknowledged locally(ie: not only in the in-flight ACK frame), I don't think there are any problems there.</p>
<p>I have two cases in mind where the largest acked could validly decrease:</p>
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<p>Perhaps it's a naive model, but I had envisioned an implementation remembering a chain of ranges of packet numbers it had received or not.  The implementation would save space by forgetting the earliest packet numbers when the chain got too long, and would construct an ACK frame out of the latest set of these ranges it had room for.</p>
<p>In that mental model, at least, there's not really room for the idea that you might drop the largest-acked frame number from your memory because it's too old -- it's always at the most-recent end of your chain, even if you currently happen to be receiving packets that fill in the middle for some implementation-specific reason.  (Implementation-specific <em>to the peer</em>, which you obviously can't know about or code for!)</p>

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> +private key associated with a certificate that the client considers to be
+trustworthy for the host identified by the authority component of the URL. If a
+server presents a certificate that verifiably applies to the host, along with
+proof that it controls the corresponding private key, then a client will accept
+a secured connection to that server as being authoritative for all origins with
+the same scheme and host.
+
+When an "https" URI is used within a context that calls for access to the
+indicated resource, a client MAY attempt access by resolving the host identifier
+to an IP address, establishing a QUIC connection to that address on the
+indicated port, and sending an HTTP/3 request message to the server over that
+secured connection containing the URI's identifying data.
+
+Connectivity problems (e.g., firewall blocking UDP) can result in QUIC
+connection establishment failure; clients SHOULD attempt to use TCP-based
+versions of HTTP in this case.

I think this statement is still sufficient, since any TCP-based version of HTTP will tell you to use TLS for an "https" URL.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3558#discussion_r401679171">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +private key associated with a certificate that the client considers to be
+trustworthy for the host identified by the authority component of the URL. If a
+server presents a certificate that verifiably applies to the host, along with
+proof that it controls the corresponding private key, then a client will accept
+a secured connection to that server as being authoritative for all origins with
+the same scheme and host.
+
+When an &quot;https&quot; URI is used within a context that calls for access to the
+indicated resource, a client MAY attempt access by resolving the host identifier
+to an IP address, establishing a QUIC connection to that address on the
+indicated port, and sending an HTTP/3 request message to the server over that
+secured connection containing the URI&#39;s identifying data.
+
+Connectivity problems (e.g., firewall blocking UDP) can result in QUIC
+connection establishment failure; clients SHOULD attempt to use TCP-based
+versions of HTTP in this case.
</pre>
<p>I think this statement is still sufficient, since any TCP-based version of HTTP will tell you to use TLS for an "https" URL.</p>

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In our implementation, we plan to do all routing based purely on the CID. IMO, the couple of byte overhead in a 1500 MTU (at least; in datacenter) packet isn't going to make much difference, so it's just simpler to have a common CID routing scheme.

That being said, I personally am not against allowing for others to do something different. I've never understood why we make any restrictions on changing between 0-length and non-0-length CIDs at all. IMO, the complexity is that it can change length at all, not that it's zero or not.

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<p>In our implementation, we plan to do all routing based purely on the CID. IMO, the couple of byte overhead in a 1500 MTU (at least; in datacenter) packet isn't going to make much difference, so it's just simpler to have a common CID routing scheme.</p>
<p>That being said, I personally am not against allowing for others to do something different. I've never understood why we make any restrictions on changing between 0-length and non-0-length CIDs at all. IMO, the complexity is that it can change length at all, not that it's zero or not.</p>

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> @@ -1069,6 +1069,15 @@ to cease using the connection IDs when requested can result in connection
 failures, as the issuing endpoint might be unable to continue using the
 connection IDs with the active connection.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD limit the number of outstanding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames
+to bound the necessary state. In order to allow a peer to retire all previously
+issued connection IDs, the limit on the number of outstanding
+RETIRE_CONNECTION_IDs SHOULD be at least the active_connection_id_limit. An

@kazuho I believe my psuedocode indicates that the current version of the PR doesn't add more state for various values of "maximum RCIDs inflight" as long as it's small enough that you can fit it all in one QUIC packet. If the RCIDs are spread over multiple packets inflight then keeping track of RCIDs requires a scoreboard.

The exact threshold to throw an error is indeed not needed in the spec. However @ianswett, rightfully, requested a MAY around the error to set expectations for debugging.

I do think we should change the word "outstanding" to "in flight" just to make it a bit clearer.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3547#discussion_r401776620">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1069,6 +1069,15 @@ to cease using the connection IDs when requested can result in connection
 failures, as the issuing endpoint might be unable to continue using the
 connection IDs with the active connection.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD limit the number of outstanding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames
+to bound the necessary state. In order to allow a peer to retire all previously
+issued connection IDs, the limit on the number of outstanding
+RETIRE_CONNECTION_IDs SHOULD be at least the active_connection_id_limit. An
</pre>
<p><a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/kazuho/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/kazuho">@kazuho</a> I believe my psuedocode indicates that the current version of the PR doesn't add more state for various values of "maximum RCIDs inflight" as long as it's small enough that you can fit it all in one QUIC packet. If the RCIDs are spread over multiple packets inflight then keeping track of RCIDs requires a scoreboard.</p>
<p>The exact threshold to throw an error is indeed not needed in the spec. However <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/ianswett/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/ianswett">@ianswett</a>, rightfully, requested a MAY around the error to set expectations for debugging.</p>
<p>I do think we should change the word "outstanding" to "in flight" just to make it a bit clearer.</p>

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> @@ -1069,6 +1069,15 @@ to cease using the connection IDs when requested can result in connection
 failures, as the issuing endpoint might be unable to continue using the
 connection IDs with the active connection.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD limit the number of outstanding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames
+to bound the necessary state. In order to allow a peer to retire all previously
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+RETIRE_CONNECTION_IDs SHOULD be at least the active_connection_id_limit. An

in flight or unacknowledged would both be fine with me.  One negative of "in flight" is that if you're congestion blocked, you can't yet put the RCID in flight.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3547#discussion_r401838811">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1069,6 +1069,15 @@ to cease using the connection IDs when requested can result in connection
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 connection IDs with the active connection.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD limit the number of outstanding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames
+to bound the necessary state. In order to allow a peer to retire all previously
+issued connection IDs, the limit on the number of outstanding
+RETIRE_CONNECTION_IDs SHOULD be at least the active_connection_id_limit. An
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<p>in flight or unacknowledged would both be fine with me.  One negative of "in flight" is that if you're congestion blocked, you can't yet put the RCID in flight.</p>

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> @@ -1069,6 +1069,15 @@ to cease using the connection IDs when requested can result in connection
 failures, as the issuing endpoint might be unable to continue using the
 connection IDs with the active connection.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD limit the number of outstanding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames
+to bound the necessary state. In order to allow a peer to retire all previously
+issued connection IDs, the limit on the number of outstanding
+RETIRE_CONNECTION_IDs SHOULD be at least the active_connection_id_limit. An

unacknowledged is better

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3547#discussion_r401853603">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1069,6 +1069,15 @@ to cease using the connection IDs when requested can result in connection
 failures, as the issuing endpoint might be unable to continue using the
 connection IDs with the active connection.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD limit the number of outstanding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames
+to bound the necessary state. In order to allow a peer to retire all previously
+issued connection IDs, the limit on the number of outstanding
+RETIRE_CONNECTION_IDs SHOULD be at least the active_connection_id_limit. An
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> @@ -1069,6 +1069,15 @@ to cease using the connection IDs when requested can result in connection
 failures, as the issuing endpoint might be unable to continue using the
 connection IDs with the active connection.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD limit the number of outstanding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames
+to bound the necessary state. In order to allow a peer to retire all previously
+issued connection IDs, the limit on the number of outstanding
+RETIRE_CONNECTION_IDs SHOULD be at least the active_connection_id_limit. An

"unacknowledged" would also include long-lost packets, technically. I agree with the congestion control observation, but I'm not sure how it impacts the behavior. I'll _always_ withhold RCIDs that are cwnd-blocked; it's a restriction on RCIDs in flight independent of this one.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3547#discussion_r401855144">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1069,6 +1069,15 @@ to cease using the connection IDs when requested can result in connection
 failures, as the issuing endpoint might be unable to continue using the
 connection IDs with the active connection.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD limit the number of outstanding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames
+to bound the necessary state. In order to allow a peer to retire all previously
+issued connection IDs, the limit on the number of outstanding
+RETIRE_CONNECTION_IDs SHOULD be at least the active_connection_id_limit. An
</pre>
<p>"unacknowledged" would also include long-lost packets, technically. I agree with the congestion control observation, but I'm not sure how it impacts the behavior. I'll <em>always</em> withhold RCIDs that are cwnd-blocked; it's a restriction on RCIDs in flight independent of this one.</p>

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in section 5.2.1:

> the timer MUST be set for the packet number space with the earliest *timeout*, except for ApplicationData, which MUST be ignored until the handshake completes;

When the client sends its Finished, it declares the handshake complete, meaning it can have ApplicationData and HandshakeData simultaneously in flight. The PTOs are different for these, because the ApplicationData uses max_ack_delay > 0.

At the end of A.7 (SetLossDetectionTimer())
```
  sent_time, _ = GetEarliestTimeAndSpace(
    time_of_last_sent_ack_eliciting_packet)
  loss_detection_timer.update(sent_time + timeout)
```
The problem here is that if the ApplicationData was sent less than max_ack_delay before the Finished, then the handshake timer should fire first. The correct approach would be to compute the timeout separately for each pn_space and then take the min of all timeouts.

As the pseudocode is non-normative, I believe this is editorial.



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<p>in section 5.2.1:</p>
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<p>the timer MUST be set for the packet number space with the earliest <em>timeout</em>, except for ApplicationData, which MUST be ignored until the handshake completes;</p>
</blockquote>
<p>When the client sends its Finished, it declares the handshake complete, meaning it can have ApplicationData and HandshakeData simultaneously in flight. The PTOs are different for these, because the ApplicationData uses max_ack_delay &gt; 0.</p>
<p>At the end of A.7 (SetLossDetectionTimer())</p>
<pre><code>  sent_time, _ = GetEarliestTimeAndSpace(
    time_of_last_sent_ack_eliciting_packet)
  loss_detection_timer.update(sent_time + timeout)
</code></pre>
<p>The problem here is that if the ApplicationData was sent less than max_ack_delay before the Finished, then the handshake timer should fire first. The correct approach would be to compute the timeout separately for each pn_space and then take the min of all timeouts.</p>
<p>As the pseudocode is non-normative, I believe this is editorial.</p>

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@DavidSchinazi, the issue is that, while the server might be confident it will work (and therefore not set the TP), the only way it works is by being highly linkable.  If we think linkability is a bad thing, advising clients not to do it isn't unreasonable.

Of course, servers have other ways of making a connection linkable by observers if they choose to do so, and clients can't detect all of them.  I'm not sure this warrants normative force; I'd simply mention that clients who intend to minimize linkability might want to consider that they're definitely linkable in this situation and could choose to avoid it.

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<p>Of course, servers have other ways of making a connection linkable by observers if they choose to do so, and clients can't detect all of them.  I'm not sure this warrants normative force; I'd simply mention that clients who intend to minimize linkability might want to consider that they're definitely linkable in this situation and could choose to avoid it.</p>

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I think that the idea is to reduce the set of RCID frames needed to a range of sequence numbers.  You only have to remember the few exceptions for sequence numbers that are in use, sequence numbers for which you have outstanding frames, and a range of sequence numbers that require retirement.

As long as your discretionary use is sequential, this is bounded state.  As mentioned, the risk is that lack of acknowledgment leads to potentially large delays in getting new connection IDs, but if you ever run short, abandon the connection.  Either you have a pathological loss pattern or your peer is messing with you.  In either case, it is probably not worth continuing.

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<p>I think that the idea is to reduce the set of RCID frames needed to a range of sequence numbers.  You only have to remember the few exceptions for sequence numbers that are in use, sequence numbers for which you have outstanding frames, and a range of sequence numbers that require retirement.</p>
<p>As long as your discretionary use is sequential, this is bounded state.  As mentioned, the risk is that lack of acknowledgment leads to potentially large delays in getting new connection IDs, but if you ever run short, abandon the connection.  Either you have a pathological loss pattern or your peer is messing with you.  In either case, it is probably not worth continuing.</p>

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> @@ -1156,6 +1156,34 @@ SHOULD ignore any such packets.
 
 Servers MUST drop incoming packets under all other circumstances.
 
+### Considerations for 5-tuple routing architectures
+
+QUIC endpoints can be deployed behind a 5-tuple based routing architecture that
+delivers packets based on both the source and destination IP addresses and
+ports. When routing depends on addresses that the endpoint does not control,
+changes to the IP address or port of peers could result in packets being routed
+to a different server. The following actions could mitigate or resolve
+operational and security issues in this case:
+
+* Endpoints can use an out-of-band mechanism to deliver packets to the correct
+destination or transfer state from the original destination.
+
+* A server can request that a connection be migrated to an address that is
+unique using the preferred_address transport parameter. For example, the initial

That is imprecise.  A connection ID means that you don't rely on 5-tuple routing.  The relevant point is that the destination address of packets is unique - at least for the time that the connection is active.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3536#discussion_r401958312">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1156,6 +1156,34 @@ SHOULD ignore any such packets.
 
 Servers MUST drop incoming packets under all other circumstances.
 
+### Considerations for 5-tuple routing architectures
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+QUIC endpoints can be deployed behind a 5-tuple based routing architecture that
+delivers packets based on both the source and destination IP addresses and
+ports. When routing depends on addresses that the endpoint does not control,
+changes to the IP address or port of peers could result in packets being routed
+to a different server. The following actions could mitigate or resolve
+operational and security issues in this case:
+
+* Endpoints can use an out-of-band mechanism to deliver packets to the correct
+destination or transfer state from the original destination.
+
+* A server can request that a connection be migrated to an address that is
+unique using the preferred_address transport parameter. For example, the initial
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<p>That is imprecise.  A connection ID means that you don't rely on 5-tuple routing.  The relevant point is that the destination address of packets is unique - at least for the time that the connection is active.</p>

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That matches my model for this.  It is also likely the case that the next packet you receive is largest+1, so there is no real advantage to forgetting the largest acknowledged.  Not sending it is slightly different though.  I can understand how an implementation might choose to send only ranges that have recently changed.  My contention is that this is not a good choice and we should recommend against that.

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@ianswett we already prohibit changing from non-zero-length to zero-length using NEW_CONNECTION_ID.  I don't want to relitigate that.  I want to concentrate on this specific issue.

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@martinthomson 
> I think that the idea is to reduce the set of RCID frames needed to a range of sequence numbers. You only have to remember the few exceptions for sequence numbers that are in use, sequence numbers for which you have outstanding frames, and a range of sequence numbers that require retirement.
> 
> As long as your discretionary use is sequential, this is bounded state.

Yes, this is one method of limiting the state that is being used for retaining sequence numbers that need to be sent. And it works even when discretionary use is not sequential, as the number of "exceptions" (i.e. gaps) is bounded by max_connection_id_limit. The other assumption of using this method is that you would somehow bound the state that is used to track RCID frames being inflight. There are various ways of accomplishing that, e.g., have a limit on the number of RCID frames sent at once, track bunch of inflight RCID frames as one meta-frame.

And it is correct that the outcome would be a "lag" in this method.

The downside of this method is that it might be a disruptive change to existing implementations. It is essentially equivalent to what #3553 proposes, with the exception being that tracking RCID frames are difficult (as you track to send many).

For existing implementations, it would be easier to adopt a "leaky" method, i.e.:

* let endpoints have a counter counting on the number of sequence numbers that are retired but are yet to be acknowledged
* when a CID is being retired, if the value of the counter is below a certain threshold (i.e. 2 * max_connection_id_limit), the counter is incremented, and a RCID frame carrying the sequence number of that CID is added to the outstanding queue. If the counter was not below the threshold, no RCID frame will be sent (leak!)
* when an RCID frame is deemed lost, it will be resubmitted into the outstanding queue
* when an RCID frame is acknowledged before deemed lost, the counter is decremented
* when an RCID frame is late-acked, we do nothing

Assuming that the solution we prefer is the least-disruptive approach, I think we need to  recommend the latter. If we have distaste in the latter and prefer the former, I think we'd better switch to #3553, as it more cleanly reflects the design of the former.

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<p>I think that the idea is to reduce the set of RCID frames needed to a range of sequence numbers. You only have to remember the few exceptions for sequence numbers that are in use, sequence numbers for which you have outstanding frames, and a range of sequence numbers that require retirement.</p>
<p>As long as your discretionary use is sequential, this is bounded state.</p>
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<p>Yes, this is one method of limiting the state that is being used for retaining sequence numbers that need to be sent. And it works even when discretionary use is not sequential, as the number of "exceptions" (i.e. gaps) is bounded by max_connection_id_limit. The other assumption of using this method is that you would somehow bound the state that is used to track RCID frames being inflight. There are various ways of accomplishing that, e.g., have a limit on the number of RCID frames sent at once, track bunch of inflight RCID frames as one meta-frame.</p>
<p>And it is correct that the outcome would be a "lag" in this method.</p>
<p>The downside of this method is that it might be a disruptive change to existing implementations. It is essentially equivalent to what <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="589956134" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3553" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3553/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3553">#3553</a> proposes, with the exception being that tracking RCID frames are difficult (as you track to send many).</p>
<p>For existing implementations, it would be easier to adopt a "leaky" method, i.e.:</p>
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<li>let endpoints have a counter counting on the number of sequence numbers that are retired but are yet to be acknowledged</li>
<li>when a CID is being retired, if the value of the counter is below a certain threshold (i.e. 2 * max_connection_id_limit), the counter is incremented, and a RCID frame carrying the sequence number of that CID is added to the outstanding queue. If the counter was not below the threshold, no RCID frame will be sent (leak!)</li>
<li>when an RCID frame is deemed lost, it will be resubmitted into the outstanding queue</li>
<li>when an RCID frame is acknowledged before deemed lost, the counter is decremented</li>
<li>when an RCID frame is late-acked, we do nothing</li>
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<p>Assuming that the solution we prefer is the least-disruptive approach, I think we need to  recommend the latter. If we have distaste in the latter and prefer the former, I think we'd better switch to <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="589956134" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3553" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3553/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3553">#3553</a>, as it more cleanly reflects the design of the former.</p>

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Yep, I think that is a good approach.  Obviously, the range encoding is superior in terms of how much state it can hold, but a simple list is fine.  And the effects of lag will be limited by the tolerance for retaining retired connection IDs, which seems proportional to me.

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<p>Yep, I think that is a good approach.  Obviously, the range encoding is superior in terms of how much state it can hold, but a simple list is fine.  And the effects of lag will be limited by the tolerance for retaining retired connection IDs, which seems proportional to me.</p>

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> @@ -5595,6 +5595,14 @@ frame multiple times MUST NOT be treated as a connection error.  A receiver can
 use the sequence number supplied in the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame to identify new
 connection IDs from old ones.
 
+When receiving a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame carrying a sequence number greater than
+those that have been previously received, an endpoint MUST check that the sum of

IIUC, we have a MUST on the issuer-side, but nothing on the consumer-side. Therefore it is my understanding is that the status quo is equivalent to a consumer MAY check and call it a protocol violation.

I think status quo is fine; MAY check is fine when the consumer of the CIDs track each of them individually.

However, in this PR, a RCID frame is expected to carry all the CIDs being retired from the beginning of the connection, and the gaps to be no more than the `max_connection_id_limit`. To meet that expectation, there has to be a check that detects the issuer intentionally creating gaps.

That's why a MUST is added here.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3553#discussion_r401973478">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -5595,6 +5595,14 @@ frame multiple times MUST NOT be treated as a connection error.  A receiver can
 use the sequence number supplied in the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame to identify new
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+When receiving a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame carrying a sequence number greater than
+those that have been previously received, an endpoint MUST check that the sum of
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<p>IIUC, we have a MUST on the issuer-side, but nothing on the consumer-side. Therefore it is my understanding is that the status quo is equivalent to a consumer MAY check and call it a protocol violation.</p>
<p>I think status quo is fine; MAY check is fine when the consumer of the CIDs track each of them individually.</p>
<p>However, in this PR, a RCID frame is expected to carry all the CIDs being retired from the beginning of the connection, and the gaps to be no more than the <code>max_connection_id_limit</code>. To meet that expectation, there has to be a check that detects the issuer intentionally creating gaps.</p>
<p>That's why a MUST is added here.</p>

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@kazuho I doubt that's less impactful on existing implementations, certainly from an interoperability standpoint. Today endpoints should hold on to incoming CIDs until they are formally retired. Making them leaky can lead to trapped state.

Sending them all, but with a delay, is no added state but solves this problem.

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> @@ -1069,6 +1069,15 @@ to cease using the connection IDs when requested can result in connection
 failures, as the issuing endpoint might be unable to continue using the
 connection IDs with the active connection.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD limit the number of outstanding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames
+to bound the necessary state. In order to allow a peer to retire all previously
+issued connection IDs, the limit on the number of outstanding
+RETIRE_CONNECTION_IDs SHOULD be at least the active_connection_id_limit. An

@martinduke I agree that when restricted by CWND, we cannot send a frame. Therefore my view is that it is difficult or confusing to call a frame that is not yet being set as "inflight" or "outstanding." Both words are wrong IMO.

That the reason why my text above talks about "state retained for retiring connection IDs."

> The exact threshold to throw an error is indeed not needed in the spec. However @ianswett, rightfully, requested a MAY around the error to set expectations for debugging.

While I am not against making such a suggestion using MAY in text, if we are to make a suggestion, I think we'd need to be very cautious so that the limit would not be too small.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3547#discussion_r401976201">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1069,6 +1069,15 @@ to cease using the connection IDs when requested can result in connection
 failures, as the issuing endpoint might be unable to continue using the
 connection IDs with the active connection.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD limit the number of outstanding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames
+to bound the necessary state. In order to allow a peer to retire all previously
+issued connection IDs, the limit on the number of outstanding
+RETIRE_CONNECTION_IDs SHOULD be at least the active_connection_id_limit. An
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<p>That the reason why my text above talks about "state retained for retiring connection IDs."</p>
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<p>The exact threshold to throw an error is indeed not needed in the spec. However <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/ianswett/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/ianswett">@ianswett</a>, rightfully, requested a MAY around the error to set expectations for debugging.</p>
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<p>While I am not against making such a suggestion using MAY in text, if we are to make a suggestion, I think we'd need to be very cautious so that the limit would not be too small.</p>

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OK -- there has been an enormous amount of discussion. The current state of the PR is that all RCIDs will eventually be sent, but if there are more than active_connection_id_limit, some may be delayed by an RTT or more. If it gets out of hand the RCID sender can throw a connection error.

I believe this reflects what @martinthomson articulated a few dozen messages ago, and in the thread above I have pseudocode for a lightweight implementation of this (i.e. essentially no additional resources for an arbitrarily large backlog of RCIDs).

The advantage of this approach is that it is lightweight and is very subtle change to behavior that will not will not affect interoperability at all or break the existing contract of a Retire Prior To.

There are two alternatives that have some traction:
1) Just bite the bullet and do #3553. This breaks interoperability but is a clean architectural change that addresses the root of the problem. I would be very comfortable with this, and prefer it to other things that break the existing semantics.
2) @kazuho's "leaky" approach that allows endpoints to simply not send some RCIDs at all if there are too many pending. I used to prefer this, but given my existence proof above I'm not as excited about it anymore. It breaks the contract that is in draft-27 instead of merely bending it.

I hope that covers the decision space. I would like to put this issue out of its misery.

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<p>OK -- there has been an enormous amount of discussion. The current state of the PR is that all RCIDs will eventually be sent, but if there are more than active_connection_id_limit, some may be delayed by an RTT or more. If it gets out of hand the RCID sender can throw a connection error.</p>
<p>I believe this reflects what <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/martinthomson/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/martinthomson">@martinthomson</a> articulated a few dozen messages ago, and in the thread above I have pseudocode for a lightweight implementation of this (i.e. essentially no additional resources for an arbitrarily large backlog of RCIDs).</p>
<p>The advantage of this approach is that it is lightweight and is very subtle change to behavior that will not will not affect interoperability at all or break the existing contract of a Retire Prior To.</p>
<p>There are two alternatives that have some traction:</p>
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<li>Just bite the bullet and do <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="589956134" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3553" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3553/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3553">#3553</a>. This breaks interoperability but is a clean architectural change that addresses the root of the problem. I would be very comfortable with this, and prefer it to other things that break the existing semantics.</li>
<li><a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/kazuho/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/kazuho">@kazuho</a>'s "leaky" approach that allows endpoints to simply not send some RCIDs at all if there are too many pending. I used to prefer this, but given my existence proof above I'm not as excited about it anymore. It breaks the contract that is in draft-27 instead of merely bending it.</li>
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<p>I hope that covers the decision space. I would like to put this issue out of its misery.</p>

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> @@ -1156,6 +1156,34 @@ SHOULD ignore any such packets.
 
 Servers MUST drop incoming packets under all other circumstances.
 
+### Considerations for 5-tuple routing architectures
+
+QUIC endpoints can be deployed behind a 5-tuple based routing architecture that
+delivers packets based on both the source and destination IP addresses and
+ports. When routing depends on addresses that the endpoint does not control,
+changes to the IP address or port of peers could result in packets being routed
+to a different server. The following actions could mitigate or resolve
+operational and security issues in this case:
+
+* Endpoints can use an out-of-band mechanism to deliver packets to the correct
+destination or transfer state from the original destination.
+
+* A server can request that a connection be migrated to an address that is
+unique using the preferred_address transport parameter. For example, the initial

I think we settled on "unique". resolving...

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3536#discussion_r401979756">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1156,6 +1156,34 @@ SHOULD ignore any such packets.
 
 Servers MUST drop incoming packets under all other circumstances.
 
+### Considerations for 5-tuple routing architectures
+
+QUIC endpoints can be deployed behind a 5-tuple based routing architecture that
+delivers packets based on both the source and destination IP addresses and
+ports. When routing depends on addresses that the endpoint does not control,
+changes to the IP address or port of peers could result in packets being routed
+to a different server. The following actions could mitigate or resolve
+operational and security issues in this case:
+
+* Endpoints can use an out-of-band mechanism to deliver packets to the correct
+destination or transfer state from the original destination.
+
+* A server can request that a connection be migrated to an address that is
+unique using the preferred_address transport parameter. For example, the initial
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So @martinthomson do you want new or revised language here, or will the other issue address the linkability stuff? I would like to close this out if it's good enough.

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<p>So <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/martinthomson/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/martinthomson">@martinthomson</a> do you want new or revised language here, or will the other issue address the linkability stuff? I would like to close this out if it's good enough.</p>

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> @@ -1069,6 +1069,15 @@ to cease using the connection IDs when requested can result in connection
 failures, as the issuing endpoint might be unable to continue using the
 connection IDs with the active connection.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD limit the number of outstanding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames
+to bound the necessary state. In order to allow a peer to retire all previously
+issued connection IDs, the limit on the number of outstanding
+RETIRE_CONNECTION_IDs SHOULD be at least the active_connection_id_limit. An

Perhaps I'm missing something obvious. The endpoint can say "I will only have 10 RCIDs in flight at a time". So if the peer makes me send 20, it'll take me at least 2 RTTs to resolve. Now obviously it can take longer if I don't have enough cwnd, but that's orthogonal to this and no change to the spec. Yes?

I'm not sure why an endpoint would choose a threshold that would result in spurious aborts, but if there's some limit you would suggest I'm happy to add it.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3547#discussion_r401981466">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1069,6 +1069,15 @@ to cease using the connection IDs when requested can result in connection
 failures, as the issuing endpoint might be unable to continue using the
 connection IDs with the active connection.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD limit the number of outstanding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames
+to bound the necessary state. In order to allow a peer to retire all previously
+issued connection IDs, the limit on the number of outstanding
+RETIRE_CONNECTION_IDs SHOULD be at least the active_connection_id_limit. An
</pre>
<p>Perhaps I'm missing something obvious. The endpoint can say "I will only have 10 RCIDs in flight at a time". So if the peer makes me send 20, it'll take me at least 2 RTTs to resolve. Now obviously it can take longer if I don't have enough cwnd, but that's orthogonal to this and no change to the spec. Yes?</p>
<p>I'm not sure why an endpoint would choose a threshold that would result in spurious aborts, but if there's some limit you would suggest I'm happy to add it.</p>

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> @@ -1069,6 +1069,15 @@ to cease using the connection IDs when requested can result in connection
 failures, as the issuing endpoint might be unable to continue using the
 connection IDs with the active connection.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD limit the number of in flight RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames
+to bound the necessary state. In order to minimize delay in common situations,
+the limit on the number of in flight RETIRE_CONNECTION_IDs SHOULD be at least
+the active_connection_id_limit. An endpoint MAY choose to treat having too many
+connection IDs in need of retirement as a connection error of type
+CONNECTION_ID_LIMIT_ERROR.

If we are to suggest that endpoints MAY immediately close the connection (an action that leads to loss of HTTP requests / responses), we should give a specific advice on when it would be safe to do so. The only number we provide in this paragraph is `active_connection_id_limit`, but we agree that it is too small to be used for closing the connection. We should be clear about that.

> @@ -1069,6 +1069,15 @@ to cease using the connection IDs when requested can result in connection
 failures, as the issuing endpoint might be unable to continue using the
 connection IDs with the active connection.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD limit the number of in flight RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames
+to bound the necessary state. In order to minimize delay in common situations,
+the limit on the number of in flight RETIRE_CONNECTION_IDs SHOULD be at least
+the active_connection_id_limit. An endpoint MAY choose to treat having too many

For the first two sentences, I think we should better use phrases like "state required to track the CIDs being retired." I also think that we should provide guidance on choosing the limit, which should be greater than active_connection_id_limit (see #3509).

"in flight" is confusing, as people might read it as if it excludes sequence number of retired CIDs that are to be sent but cannot be sent immediately. There is no guarantee that RCID frames for all the sequence numbers to be retired can be sent immediately as the frame is under the control of CC. Note that there would be an incentive for people to consider that "in flight" here excludes those yet to be sent, because is the next setence we talk about "having too many in need of retirement." That gives the impression that "in flight" means something narrower.

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<p><b>@kazuho</b> requested changes on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3547#discussion_r401979856">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1069,6 +1069,15 @@ to cease using the connection IDs when requested can result in connection
 failures, as the issuing endpoint might be unable to continue using the
 connection IDs with the active connection.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD limit the number of in flight RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames
+to bound the necessary state. In order to minimize delay in common situations,
+the limit on the number of in flight RETIRE_CONNECTION_IDs SHOULD be at least
+the active_connection_id_limit. An endpoint MAY choose to treat having too many
+connection IDs in need of retirement as a connection error of type
+CONNECTION_ID_LIMIT_ERROR.
</pre>
<p>If we are to suggest that endpoints MAY immediately close the connection (an action that leads to loss of HTTP requests / responses), we should give a specific advice on when it would be safe to do so. The only number we provide in this paragraph is <code>active_connection_id_limit</code>, but we agree that it is too small to be used for closing the connection. We should be clear about that.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3547#discussion_r401981377">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1069,6 +1069,15 @@ to cease using the connection IDs when requested can result in connection
 failures, as the issuing endpoint might be unable to continue using the
 connection IDs with the active connection.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD limit the number of in flight RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames
+to bound the necessary state. In order to minimize delay in common situations,
+the limit on the number of in flight RETIRE_CONNECTION_IDs SHOULD be at least
+the active_connection_id_limit. An endpoint MAY choose to treat having too many
</pre>
<p>For the first two sentences, I think we should better use phrases like "state required to track the CIDs being retired." I also think that we should provide guidance on choosing the limit, which should be greater than active_connection_id_limit (see <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="578914025" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3509" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3509/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3509">#3509</a>).</p>
<p>"in flight" is confusing, as people might read it as if it excludes sequence number of retired CIDs that are to be sent but cannot be sent immediately. There is no guarantee that RCID frames for all the sequence numbers to be retired can be sent immediately as the frame is under the control of CC. Note that there would be an incentive for people to consider that "in flight" here excludes those yet to be sent, because is the next setence we talk about "having too many in need of retirement." That gives the impression that "in flight" means something narrower.</p>

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> @@ -1069,6 +1069,15 @@ to cease using the connection IDs when requested can result in connection
 failures, as the issuing endpoint might be unable to continue using the
 connection IDs with the active connection.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD limit the number of in flight RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames
+to bound the necessary state. In order to minimize delay in common situations,
+the limit on the number of in flight RETIRE_CONNECTION_IDs SHOULD be at least
+the active_connection_id_limit. An endpoint MAY choose to treat having too many
+connection IDs in need of retirement as a connection error of type
+CONNECTION_ID_LIMIT_ERROR.

I'm happy to include whatever minimum you suggest.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3547#discussion_r401983687">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1069,6 +1069,15 @@ to cease using the connection IDs when requested can result in connection
 failures, as the issuing endpoint might be unable to continue using the
 connection IDs with the active connection.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD limit the number of in flight RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames
+to bound the necessary state. In order to minimize delay in common situations,
+the limit on the number of in flight RETIRE_CONNECTION_IDs SHOULD be at least
+the active_connection_id_limit. An endpoint MAY choose to treat having too many
+connection IDs in need of retirement as a connection error of type
+CONNECTION_ID_LIMIT_ERROR.
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> @@ -1069,6 +1069,15 @@ to cease using the connection IDs when requested can result in connection
 failures, as the issuing endpoint might be unable to continue using the
 connection IDs with the active connection.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD limit the number of in flight RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames
+to bound the necessary state. In order to minimize delay in common situations,
+the limit on the number of in flight RETIRE_CONNECTION_IDs SHOULD be at least
+the active_connection_id_limit. An endpoint MAY choose to treat having too many

it does exclude ones that can't be sent; the point is, even if there is space in the cwnd I can choose to send fewer to simplify the implementation.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3547#discussion_r401983951">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1069,6 +1069,15 @@ to cease using the connection IDs when requested can result in connection
 failures, as the issuing endpoint might be unable to continue using the
 connection IDs with the active connection.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD limit the number of in flight RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames
+to bound the necessary state. In order to minimize delay in common situations,
+the limit on the number of in flight RETIRE_CONNECTION_IDs SHOULD be at least
+the active_connection_id_limit. An endpoint MAY choose to treat having too many
</pre>
<p>it does exclude ones that can't be sent; the point is, even if there is space in the cwnd I can choose to send fewer to simplify the implementation.</p>

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> @@ -1069,6 +1069,15 @@ to cease using the connection IDs when requested can result in connection
 failures, as the issuing endpoint might be unable to continue using the
 connection IDs with the active connection.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD limit the number of outstanding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames
+to bound the necessary state. In order to allow a peer to retire all previously
+issued connection IDs, the limit on the number of outstanding
+RETIRE_CONNECTION_IDs SHOULD be at least the active_connection_id_limit. An

> The endpoint can say "I will only have 10 RCIDs in flight at a time".

Yes. That's possible, but having that limitation does not mitigate the attack.

> So if the peer makes me send 20, it'll take me at least 2 RTTs to resolve. Now obviously it can take longer if I don't have enough cwnd, but that's orthogonal to this and no change to the spec.

The attack is that peer might make you send more than 20 or more. And we need to either provide a guidance on when an endpoint can start leaking retirements or close the connection.

However, the only SHOULD being added in this PR is something unrelated to the attack. And the location of the text gives the false impression that the limit in that sentence is the threshold for mitigating the attack.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3547#discussion_r401984660">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1069,6 +1069,15 @@ to cease using the connection IDs when requested can result in connection
 failures, as the issuing endpoint might be unable to continue using the
 connection IDs with the active connection.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD limit the number of outstanding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames
+to bound the necessary state. In order to allow a peer to retire all previously
+issued connection IDs, the limit on the number of outstanding
+RETIRE_CONNECTION_IDs SHOULD be at least the active_connection_id_limit. An
</pre>
<blockquote>
<p>The endpoint can say "I will only have 10 RCIDs in flight at a time".</p>
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<p>Yes. That's possible, but having that limitation does not mitigate the attack.</p>
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<p>So if the peer makes me send 20, it'll take me at least 2 RTTs to resolve. Now obviously it can take longer if I don't have enough cwnd, but that's orthogonal to this and no change to the spec.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>The attack is that peer might make you send more than 20 or more. And we need to either provide a guidance on when an endpoint can start leaking retirements or close the connection.</p>
<p>However, the only SHOULD being added in this PR is something unrelated to the attack. And the location of the text gives the false impression that the limit in that sentence is the threshold for mitigating the attack.</p>

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> @@ -1069,6 +1069,15 @@ to cease using the connection IDs when requested can result in connection
 failures, as the issuing endpoint might be unable to continue using the
 connection IDs with the active connection.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD limit the number of in flight RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames
+to bound the necessary state. In order to minimize delay in common situations,
+the limit on the number of in flight RETIRE_CONNECTION_IDs SHOULD be at least
+the active_connection_id_limit. An endpoint MAY choose to treat having too many
+connection IDs in need of retirement as a connection error of type
+CONNECTION_ID_LIMIT_ERROR.

I could live with saying "at least twice the active_connection_id_limit" in the first sentence.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3547#discussion_r401987997">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1069,6 +1069,15 @@ to cease using the connection IDs when requested can result in connection
 failures, as the issuing endpoint might be unable to continue using the
 connection IDs with the active connection.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD limit the number of in flight RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames
+to bound the necessary state. In order to minimize delay in common situations,
+the limit on the number of in flight RETIRE_CONNECTION_IDs SHOULD be at least
+the active_connection_id_limit. An endpoint MAY choose to treat having too many
+connection IDs in need of retirement as a connection error of type
+CONNECTION_ID_LIMIT_ERROR.
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> +An endpoint SHOULD limit the number of in flight RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames
+to bound the necessary state. In order to minimize delay in common situations,
+the limit on the number of in flight RETIRE_CONNECTION_IDs SHOULD be at least
+the active_connection_id_limit. An endpoint MAY choose to treat having too many
+connection IDs in need of retirement as a connection error of type
+CONNECTION_ID_LIMIT_ERROR.

```suggestion
When retiring a connection ID, an endpoint remembers a sequence number and
maybe a packet number for a RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame.  An endpoint SHOULD
limit the state it commits to remembering connection IDs that need to be
retired to at least twice the active_connection_id_limit. An endpoint MAY
choose to treat having too many connection IDs in need of retirement as a
connection error of type CONNECTION_ID_LIMIT_ERROR.
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> @@ -1069,6 +1069,15 @@ to cease using the connection IDs when requested can result in connection
 failures, as the issuing endpoint might be unable to continue using the
 connection IDs with the active connection.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD limit the number of in flight RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames
+to bound the necessary state. In order to minimize delay in common situations,
+the limit on the number of in flight RETIRE_CONNECTION_IDs SHOULD be at least
+the active_connection_id_limit. An endpoint MAY choose to treat having too many

If it excludes those that can't be sent, then such an endpoint is vulnerable to the attack. Unless the amount of state that is used to track those that can't be sent is bounded. We need to recommend endpoints to limit _this_ state (see https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3547#discussion_r401984660), not the number of RCID frames sent at once.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3547#discussion_r401992408">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1069,6 +1069,15 @@ to cease using the connection IDs when requested can result in connection
 failures, as the issuing endpoint might be unable to continue using the
 connection IDs with the active connection.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD limit the number of in flight RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames
+to bound the necessary state. In order to minimize delay in common situations,
+the limit on the number of in flight RETIRE_CONNECTION_IDs SHOULD be at least
+the active_connection_id_limit. An endpoint MAY choose to treat having too many
</pre>
<p>If it excludes those that can't be sent, then such an endpoint is vulnerable to the attack. Unless the amount of state that is used to track those that can't be sent is bounded. We need to recommend endpoints to limit <em>this</em> state (see <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="588711941" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3547" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3547/hovercard?comment_id=401984660&amp;comment_type=review_comment" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3547#discussion_r401984660">#3547 (comment)</a>), not the number of RCID frames sent at once.</p>

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Given how hard this has been to get right, I want @janaiyengar to take a look.  But I'm happy with this.

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<p>Given how hard this has been to get right, I want <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/janaiyengar/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/janaiyengar">@janaiyengar</a> to take a look.  But I'm happy with this.</p>

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> +An endpoint SHOULD limit the number of in flight RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames
+to bound the necessary state. In order to minimize delay in common situations,
+the limit on the number of in flight RETIRE_CONNECTION_IDs SHOULD be at least
+the active_connection_id_limit. An endpoint MAY choose to treat having too many
+connection IDs in need of retirement as a connection error of type
+CONNECTION_ID_LIMIT_ERROR.

This suggestion looks good to me. I think we might want to clarify why the recommendation is at least twice (e.g., so that endpoints can track retirements it issued and those requested by the peer even under packet loss), but that's merely an editorial preference.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3547#discussion_r401998245">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +An endpoint SHOULD limit the number of in flight RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames
+to bound the necessary state. In order to minimize delay in common situations,
+the limit on the number of in flight RETIRE_CONNECTION_IDs SHOULD be at least
+the active_connection_id_limit. An endpoint MAY choose to treat having too many
+connection IDs in need of retirement as a connection error of type
+CONNECTION_ID_LIMIT_ERROR.
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<p>This suggestion looks good to me. I think we might want to clarify why the recommendation is at least twice (e.g., so that endpoints can track retirements it issued and those requested by the peer even under packet loss), but that's merely an editorial preference.</p>

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  Changed paths:
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  If PTO is armed for anti-deadlock, use now()

Use now() instead of setting the PTO based on an invalid time(0) when the PTO is armed for anti-deadlock and there are no bytes in flight.

Fixes #3554


  Commit: c08afeea0ecfa510b10f3924224500e5c667835d
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  Merge pull request #3556 from quicwg/ianswett-pto-deadlock-now

If PTO is armed for anti-deadlock, use now()


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Fixes #3495 and #3288 by notifying the congestion controller of lost packets prior to notifying it of acknowledged packets and passing all lost packets into InPersistentCongestion().


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  Date:   2020-03-22 (Sun, 22 Mar 2020)

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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-03-23 (Mon, 23 Mar 2020)

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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-03-23 (Mon, 23 Mar 2020)

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  Commit: e92c94feaf24f2e543517623213ea8506894c919
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  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-03-23 (Mon, 23 Mar 2020)

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  Commit: b78ed816abdc3518a72ca148aca1a6c7ecb8fb98
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  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-03-23 (Mon, 23 Mar 2020)

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  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-03-23 (Mon, 23 Mar 2020)

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  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-03-25 (Wed, 25 Mar 2020)

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  Commit: 4a8213bdab0c1d90cb0aa22e0c03066fa6014ef6
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  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-03-27 (Fri, 27 Mar 2020)

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  Commit: e78fa6571a03b47f8703b5682956bc4f3bd05bd7
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-03-29 (Sun, 29 Mar 2020)

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When writing #3551, I found some of the text organization to be odd, so this moves it some.


  Commit: 87a3db1bb737ae5408419a37b7550c1ee80e6eb3
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-03-29 (Sun, 29 Mar 2020)

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  Commit: 95e46952fcec6da8297f40eaef105ce0538563c1
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-03-29 (Sun, 29 Mar 2020)

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  Commit: cbc8d1f1a77508a1f27953ed3d7ad5d4f6a8cc78
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-03-29 (Sun, 29 Mar 2020)

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  Merge pull request #3539 from quicwg/ianswett-pto-counts

Clarify PTO packets count towards amplification limit


  Commit: 5f520e2d9207eb156fb3a6fec2a11318c975b36e
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-03-29 (Sun, 29 Mar 2020)

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  Commit: de8eca5e5b745c44c1c52b1c811f5068c565c112
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-03-29 (Sun, 29 Mar 2020)

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  Commit: 2594cd133feb9ef21f93fda32bca9dc6c997a494
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-03-29 (Sun, 29 Mar 2020)

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  Commit: 05d9705c4dce2707f3bd8456b410e082c717a41c
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-03-29 (Sun, 29 Mar 2020)

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  Commit: 902703f7d3bc8931ba05e877e88a322f29c1d9b0
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-03-29 (Sun, 29 Mar 2020)

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  Commit: b3e0025339688f362789447dd14fa59c34eac983
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-03-29 (Sun, 29 Mar 2020)

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  Commit: 15ea7be51de31e5be960678767f677c9342f2bb0
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-03-30 (Mon, 30 Mar 2020)

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It was defined before, but not used.


  Commit: 49526ef56c9225ee5ac2fce7a70403ead0b6df74
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-03-30 (Mon, 30 Mar 2020)

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  If PTO is armed for anti-deadlock, use now()

Use now() instead of setting the PTO based on an invalid time(0) when the PTO is armed for anti-deadlock and there are no bytes in flight.

Fixes #3554


  Commit: c08afeea0ecfa510b10f3924224500e5c667835d
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-03-30 (Mon, 30 Mar 2020)

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  Commit: b60181183ea1cc8fe662b1080c80b5786ab31025
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  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-03-30 (Mon, 30 Mar 2020)

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  Merge pull request #3513 from quicwg/http/core_and_friends

http-core and Friends


  Commit: ca3026d45f87be3e394dd13115f0638666839cd7
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  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-03-30 (Mon, 30 Mar 2020)

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  Merge pull request #3531 from quicwg/http/security_considerations

Import HTTP/2 Security Considerations


  Commit: abd056ac97b798b5cdf56e635e540ed8ab0cfbd3
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-03-30 (Mon, 30 Mar 2020)

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  Commit: c4af4067f0cd9940589e29628a2437495c809007
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-03-30 (Mon, 30 Mar 2020)

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  Commit: a4ba946701d5b13df60b35fcff213dcc53d458bc
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-03-30 (Mon, 30 Mar 2020)

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  Merge pull request #3555 from quicwg/ianswett-PeerNotAwaitingAddressValidation

Use PeerNotAwaitingAddressValidation() in pseudocode


  Commit: bdbf6a120848f6524e53079d59db7e6ecf8970b0
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/bdbf6a120848f6524e53079d59db7e6ecf8970b0
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-03-30 (Mon, 30 Mar 2020)

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  Merge pull request #3552 from quicwg/ianswett-ed-sending-probe-packets

Reorganize "Sending Probe Packets"


  Commit: 35fad6f470bf6fd2316189ecb7a9ce376c93f4d9
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-03-31 (Tue, 31 Mar 2020)

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Co-Authored-By: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>


  Commit: 71bebc7cd1d63193b6e788deffb65aee681ab8cc
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-03-31 (Tue, 31 Mar 2020)

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Co-Authored-By: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>


  Commit: c942fd8027c3ddbd03c658aca614282cb1b3f490
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-03-31 (Tue, 31 Mar 2020)

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Co-Authored-By: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>


  Commit: 5d0f1778e301bc0aaae4c0a8d192814852000fda
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-03-31 (Tue, 31 Mar 2020)

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Co-Authored-By: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>


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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-03-31 (Tue, 31 Mar 2020)

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Co-Authored-By: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>


  Commit: 949bbab5c32eef55d23296330477c49bb60661ca
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-03-31 (Tue, 31 Mar 2020)

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Co-Authored-By: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>


  Commit: 6c7ff3f90cef21648886155cd108e7eecf981e56
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-03-31 (Tue, 31 Mar 2020)

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  Commit: 3634c6b298b8e1e57fd89cc5247750d182767512
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-03-31 (Tue, 31 Mar 2020)

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Co-Authored-By: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>


  Commit: 2503587c41e812f77339cc30f3909abad187cb8d
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-03-31 (Tue, 31 Mar 2020)

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  Commit: a90f17cacdfe043735ff599d4b16c3d510148259
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  Date:   2020-03-31 (Tue, 31 Mar 2020)

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  Date:   2020-03-31 (Tue, 31 Mar 2020)

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  Commit: 551c9763470354175b5e5c2075ca90fb941b337f
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  Date:   2020-03-31 (Tue, 31 Mar 2020)

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  Commit: b34f5f9be7847b80ae890f03012f95775b946de3
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-03-31 (Tue, 31 Mar 2020)

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  Commit: 46f61b620f829a46b08efa1a5ea20cb1abcd4f80
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-03-31 (Tue, 31 Mar 2020)

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  Merge pull request #3540 from quicwg/ianswett-loss-first

Notify the congestion controller of losses first


  Commit: f85ac7e4c7a2f93250c9fc32dd9d0160ed35e097
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-04-01 (Wed, 01 Apr 2020)

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  Merge pull request #3556 from quicwg/ianswett-pto-deadlock-now

If PTO is armed for anti-deadlock, use now()


  Commit: 5a7994cad149f467f72ff21e240c62cfaf0523d8
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-04-01 (Wed, 01 Apr 2020)

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  Merge branch 'master' into ianswett-initial-pto


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/4b278382d170...5a7994cad149


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If we're not going to re-litigate that, then I'd suggest we continue allowing a 0-length CID for the preferred address case.

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<p>If we're not going to re-litigate that, then I'd suggest we continue allowing a 0-length CID for the preferred address case.</p>

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Not sure if this is worth pursuing, but it closes #3115 if it does.



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@ianswett While I would not argue strongly against continue allowing that, I would appreciate it if you could clarify why allowing a zero-byte CID would be useful.

As pointed out in https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3560#issuecomment-607028938, when you provide a zero-byte CID in SPA, you need to be prepared for receiving a short header packet using zero-length CID from any IP address, and be capable of associating that to an existing connection. This is because the client (or the network) might change the client's address tuple when it sends packets to the preferred address.

I would anticipate that you wouldn't want to do that in your file upload case (or in any deployment that might accept multiple connections concurrently).

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<p>As pointed out in <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="590686338" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3560" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3560/hovercard?comment_id=607028938&amp;comment_type=issue_comment" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3560#issuecomment-607028938">#3560 (comment)</a>, when you provide a zero-byte CID in SPA, you need to be prepared for receiving a short header packet using zero-length CID from any IP address, and be capable of associating that to an existing connection. This is because the client (or the network) might change the client's address tuple when it sends packets to the preferred address.</p>
<p>I would anticipate that you wouldn't want to do that in your file upload case (or in any deployment that might accept multiple connections concurrently).</p>

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> @@ -501,7 +501,13 @@ and prevents a server from sending a 1-RTT packet on a PTO expiration before it
 has the keys to process an acknowledgement.
 
 When a PTO timer expires, the PTO period MUST be set to twice its current
-value. This exponential reduction in the sender's rate is important because
+value. The PTO period is set back to the original value upon receiving an
+acknowledgement for a non-Initial packet. The PTO timer is not decreased when
+the client receives an Initial ACK to ensure the client's anti-deadlock timer

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3551#discussion_r402326578">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -501,7 +501,13 @@ and prevents a server from sending a 1-RTT packet on a PTO expiration before it
 has the keys to process an acknowledgement.
 
 When a PTO timer expires, the PTO period MUST be set to twice its current
-value. This exponential reduction in the sender&#39;s rate is important because
+value. The PTO period is set back to the original value upon receiving an
+acknowledgement for a non-Initial packet. The PTO timer is not decreased when
+the client receives an Initial ACK to ensure the client&#39;s anti-deadlock timer
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@kazuho If I know 5-tuples are stable, then using a zero-length CID is always fine, just like it's typically fine in the server to client direction.  But in that case, hopefully I can avoid needing to use SPA, making the decision on this issue moot.

After thinking about this more, we're probably better off with option 4 for the sake of consistency and if we want to allow 0-length CIDs in more case, I can write an extension for how that would work, since I don't think it's only a matter of relaxing some constraints.

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<p>After thinking about this more, we're probably better off with option 4 for the sake of consistency and if we want to allow 0-length CIDs in more case, I can write an extension for how that would work, since I don't think it's only a matter of relaxing some constraints.</p>

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To clarify the status here, my understanding is that the proposal is to close this design issue with no action. 

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  Branch: refs/heads/preferred_ncid
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      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/021b3cf00ab4be427f0b9f20b7d1b9a5cb6ab059
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-04-07 (Tue, 07 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Forbid zero-length connection ID with preferred addresses

This is option 4 from the discussion in #3560.  That is, making
preferred_address equivalent to NEW_CONNECTION_ID with a sequence number
of 1 in every way that matters.

Closes #3560.



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This is option 4 from the discussion in #3560.  That is, making
preferred_address equivalent to NEW_CONNECTION_ID with a sequence number
of 1 in every way that matters.

Closes #3560.
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-- Commit Summary --

  * Forbid zero-length connection ID with preferred addresses

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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (8)

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<p>This is option 4 from the discussion in <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="590686338" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3560" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3560/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3560">#3560</a>.  That is, making<br>
preferred_address equivalent to NEW_CONNECTION_ID with a sequence number<br>
of 1 in every way that matters.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3560.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="590686338" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3560" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3560/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3560">#3560</a>.</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>Forbid zero-length connection ID with preferred addresses</li>
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Thanks all.  I think that we reached the same conclusion in the end, via different paths.

The proposed fix here is firmly design chairs.  A bugfix only, but still worth careful review.

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<p>Thanks all.  I think that we reached the same conclusion in the end, via different paths.</p>
<p>The proposed fix here is firmly design chairs.  A bugfix only, but still worth careful review.</p>

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> We already decided not to prohibit active migration in the presence of zero-length CIDs, IIRC.

As I recall and unless something changed recently, active migration is not permitted for 0 length CID, but it is accepted that a NAT migrates outside the peers control.

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As much as I like this, I don't think we're going to do this at this stage in the game, so closing.

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<p>As much as I like this, I don't think we're going to do this at this stage in the game, so closing.</p>

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Chairs, the fix here turned out to be more complex.  Let's get wider review for this.

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@janaiyengar approved this pull request.

LGTM, modulo one suggestion.

> @@ -4697,11 +4697,12 @@ active_connection_id_limit (0x000e):
   to store. This value includes the connection ID received during the handshake,
   that received in the preferred_address transport parameter, and those received
   in NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames.
-  Unless a zero-length connection ID is being used, the value of the
-  active_connection_id_limit parameter MUST be no less than 2. If this
-  transport parameter is absent, a default of 2 is assumed.
-  When a zero-length connection ID is being used, the active_connection_id_limit
-  parameter MUST NOT be sent.
+  The value of the active_connection_id_limit parameter MUST be at least 2.

```suggestion
  The value of the active_connection_id_limit parameter MUST be at least 2.
  An endpoint that receives a value less than 2 MUST close the connection
  with an error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR.
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Suggestions from editors' call:  Add some text explaining the colloquial terms versus the technically accurate terms.

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<p>Suggestions from editors' call:  Add some text explaining the colloquial terms versus the technically accurate terms.</p>

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I read this as a clarification of existing protocol design. I'd like to get eyes on it to make sure there is sufficient opportunity for discussion. Marking as design.

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<p>I read this as a clarification of existing protocol design. I'd like to get eyes on it to make sure there is sufficient opportunity for discussion. Marking as design.</p>

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> +An endpoint SHOULD limit the number of in flight RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames
+to bound the necessary state. In order to minimize delay in common situations,
+the limit on the number of in flight RETIRE_CONNECTION_IDs SHOULD be at least
+the active_connection_id_limit. An endpoint MAY choose to treat having too many
+connection IDs in need of retirement as a connection error of type
+CONNECTION_ID_LIMIT_ERROR.

I have received feedback from the list and the editors that "the lag" is the way to go. Unless that consensus is reversed, I believe that @martinthomson 's suggestion is too easily misinterpreted as allowing "the leak".  While I believe this can be fixed, I'll make a new suggestion that might be a better basis to making progress on what now is an editorial problem.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3547#discussion_r405168193">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +An endpoint SHOULD limit the number of in flight RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames
+to bound the necessary state. In order to minimize delay in common situations,
+the limit on the number of in flight RETIRE_CONNECTION_IDs SHOULD be at least
+the active_connection_id_limit. An endpoint MAY choose to treat having too many
+connection IDs in need of retirement as a connection error of type
+CONNECTION_ID_LIMIT_ERROR.
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<p>I have received feedback from the list and the editors that "the lag" is the way to go. Unless that consensus is reversed, I believe that <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/martinthomson/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/martinthomson">@martinthomson</a> 's suggestion is too easily misinterpreted as allowing "the leak".  While I believe this can be fixed, I'll make a new suggestion that might be a better basis to making progress on what now is an editorial problem.</p>

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I'm reluctant to blow away the whole PR with brand new text, so in this comment I will propose four entirely new paragraphs that IMO says what needs to be said. Either the current PR, Martin's revision, or this proposal could serve as the basis of the eventual change:

If a peer sends large numbers of NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames that increase Retire
Prior To, and/or acks of packets that contain RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID are lost, the
state required at the RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID sender can grow without regard to its
active_connection_id_limit. Therefore, endpoints SHOULD take steps to bound the
state associated with needed RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames while ensuring that it
eventually transmits all required RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames.

For example, it might limit voluntarily retirement of sequence numbers if it has
not received enough acknowledgments of packets containing previous retirements.
It might also restrict the RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames in flight to a single
packet in order to simplify tracking of what is in flight, what needs retransmission,
and what has been acknowledged.

An endpoint MAY treat having too many connection IDs to retire as a connection
error of type CONNECTION_ID_LIMIT_ERROR. The threshold for this error SHOULD
be at least twice the endpoint's advertised active_connection_id_limit.

Endpoints SHOULD NOT issue updates of the Retire Prior To field prior to
receiving all of the RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames for the previous update to
Retire Prior To.

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If people much prefer this or MT's revision, I'll update the PR accordingly.

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<p></p>
<p>I'm reluctant to blow away the whole PR with brand new text, so in this comment I will propose four entirely new paragraphs that IMO says what needs to be said. Either the current PR, Martin's revision, or this proposal could serve as the basis of the eventual change:</p>
<p>If a peer sends large numbers of NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames that increase Retire<br>
Prior To, and/or acks of packets that contain RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID are lost, the<br>
state required at the RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID sender can grow without regard to its<br>
active_connection_id_limit. Therefore, endpoints SHOULD take steps to bound the<br>
state associated with needed RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames while ensuring that it<br>
eventually transmits all required RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames.</p>
<p>For example, it might limit voluntarily retirement of sequence numbers if it has<br>
not received enough acknowledgments of packets containing previous retirements.<br>
It might also restrict the RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames in flight to a single<br>
packet in order to simplify tracking of what is in flight, what needs retransmission,<br>
and what has been acknowledged.</p>
<p>An endpoint MAY treat having too many connection IDs to retire as a connection<br>
error of type CONNECTION_ID_LIMIT_ERROR. The threshold for this error SHOULD<br>
be at least twice the endpoint's advertised active_connection_id_limit.</p>
<p>Endpoints SHOULD NOT issue updates of the Retire Prior To field prior to<br>
receiving all of the RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames for the previous update to<br>
Retire Prior To.</p>
<hr>
<p>If people much prefer this or MT's revision, I'll update the PR accordingly.</p>

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@martinthomson commented on this pull request.



> +An endpoint SHOULD limit the number of in flight RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames
+to bound the necessary state. In order to minimize delay in common situations,
+the limit on the number of in flight RETIRE_CONNECTION_IDs SHOULD be at least
+the active_connection_id_limit. An endpoint MAY choose to treat having too many
+connection IDs in need of retirement as a connection error of type
+CONNECTION_ID_LIMIT_ERROR.

```suggestion
When retiring a connection ID, an endpoint remembers a sequence number and maybe
a packet number for a RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame.  An endpoint SHOULD limit the
state it commits by limiting the number of connection IDs that it tracks for
retirement to at least twice the active_connection_id_limit. An endpoint MUST
NOT forget a connection ID without retiring it, though MAY choose to treat
having too many connection IDs in need of retirement as a connection error of
type CONNECTION_ID_LIMIT_ERROR.
```

I think that this is better than including a lot more words.  I've tweaked the last sentence to include a prohibition on forgetting connection IDs.

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  Branch: refs/heads/resumption
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-04-08 (Wed, 08 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  Text on session resumption

In looking at #3028, I realized that we had nowhere that addressed the
basic concept of resumption.  This is, I hope, all that we need to say
on the subject.  It talks about state and then the privacy implications
of using resumption.

I found less in the TLS 1.3 RFC on this subject than I might have liked
to see.  It only really addressed ticket reuse.  So this is a little
more verbose than is ideal.

Closes #3028.



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In looking at #3028, I realized that we had nowhere that addressed the basic concept of resumption.  This is, I hope, all that we need to say on the subject.  It talks about state and then the privacy implications of using resumption.

I found less in the TLS 1.3 RFC on this subject than I might have liked to see.  It only really addressed ticket reuse.  So this is a little more verbose than is ideal.

Oh, and there are new requirements here, but as they are restatements of existing requirements, I don&#39;t think that this needs to be a design change.  But I will happily switch to treating this as a design issue if anyone asks.

Closes #3028.
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<p>In looking at <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="493130467" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3028" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3028/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3028">#3028</a>, I realized that we had nowhere that addressed the basic concept of resumption.  This is, I hope, all that we need to say on the subject.  It talks about state and then the privacy implications of using resumption.</p>
<p>I found less in the TLS 1.3 RFC on this subject than I might have liked to see.  It only really addressed ticket reuse.  So this is a little more verbose than is ideal.</p>
<p>Oh, and there are new requirements here, but as they are restatements of existing requirements, I don't think that this needs to be a design change.  But I will happily switch to treating this as a design issue if anyone asks.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3028.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="493130467" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3028" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3028/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3028">#3028</a>.</p>

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> +An endpoint SHOULD limit the number of in flight RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames
+to bound the necessary state. In order to minimize delay in common situations,
+the limit on the number of in flight RETIRE_CONNECTION_IDs SHOULD be at least
+the active_connection_id_limit. An endpoint MAY choose to treat having too many
+connection IDs in need of retirement as a connection error of type
+CONNECTION_ID_LIMIT_ERROR.

I'm fine with @martinthomson's proposed text. 

It gives a recommendation, and also provides a dedicated error code to be used in such case. When a well-behaving endpoint receives that error code, it can blame that the peer is doing something wrong.

I think that this is the minimal fix that we need to apply, and I think that it is a reasonable way of making progress at late stage. If we are to apply a proper fix, my preference still goes to adopting #3553. It removes the need for "lagging," therefore, provides us having less complexity in the long run, at the cost of requiring a wire-format change.

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<p><b>@kazuho</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3547#discussion_r405210341">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +An endpoint SHOULD limit the number of in flight RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames
+to bound the necessary state. In order to minimize delay in common situations,
+the limit on the number of in flight RETIRE_CONNECTION_IDs SHOULD be at least
+the active_connection_id_limit. An endpoint MAY choose to treat having too many
+connection IDs in need of retirement as a connection error of type
+CONNECTION_ID_LIMIT_ERROR.
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<p>I'm fine with <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/martinthomson/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/martinthomson">@martinthomson</a>'s proposed text.</p>
<p>It gives a recommendation, and also provides a dedicated error code to be used in such case. When a well-behaving endpoint receives that error code, it can blame that the peer is doing something wrong.</p>
<p>I think that this is the minimal fix that we need to apply, and I think that it is a reasonable way of making progress at late stage. If we are to apply a proper fix, my preference still goes to adopting <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="589956134" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3553" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3553/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3553">#3553</a>. It removes the need for "lagging," therefore, provides us having less complexity in the long run, at the cost of requiring a wire-format change.</p>

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I took @martinthomson 's suggested text. I would prefer a little advice on how to implement the lag, but I can live with this text.

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After a lot of back-and-forth, I think that we've all generally converged on #3547.

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<p>After a lot of back-and-forth, I think that we've all generally converged on <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="588711941" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3547" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3547/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3547">#3547</a>.</p>

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As we know, HTTP/2 provides PING frame and corresponding PING acks, to fetch the application-layer delay. But HTTP/3 states "PING frames do not exist, since QUIC provides equivalent functionality", while QUIC only sends a PING frame to check the reachability of its peer without delay calculation.

The other way of fetching QUIC-layer delay is extracting from the congestion control module. But the application can only read dealy info when there is some data to send. It can not send a probe proactively. 

Should QUIC provides a similar interface to fetch such a application-delay?

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<p>As we know, HTTP/2 provides PING frame and corresponding PING acks, to fetch the application-layer delay. But HTTP/3 states "PING frames do not exist, since QUIC provides equivalent functionality", while QUIC only sends a PING frame to check the reachability of its peer without delay calculation.</p>
<p>The other way of fetching QUIC-layer delay is extracting from the congestion control module. But the application can only read dealy info when there is some data to send. It can not send a probe proactively.</p>
<p>Should QUIC provides a similar interface to fetch such a application-delay?</p>

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@huitema commented on this pull request.

As I said in the text comment, this is good. Only open question is whether there should be a "privacy consideration" note in the security section.

> +that some information be retained; see Section 4.6.1 of {{!TLS13}}. QUIC itself
+does not depend on any state being retained when resuming a connection, unless
+0-RTT is also used; see {{enable-0rtt}} and Section 7.3.1 of
+{{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}. Application protocols could depend on state that is
+retained between resumed connections.
+
+Clients can store any state required for resumption along with the session
+ticket. Servers can use the session ticket to help carry state.
+
+Session resumption allows servers to link activity on the original connection
+with the resumed connection, which might be a privacy issue for clients.
+Clients can choose not to enable resumption to avoid creating this correlation.
+Client SHOULD NOT reuse tickets as that allows entities other than the server
+to correlate connection; see Section C.4 of {{!TLS13}}.
+
+

Looks good. Simple and to the point. My only reservation is about the security section. Session resumption allows tracking by the server, and this is arguably a security issue. The text here properly describes the concern and the remediation, but I wonder whether should there be a mention of these potential privacy issues in the security section.

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<p><b>@huitema</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<p>As I said in the text comment, this is good. Only open question is whether there should be a "privacy consideration" note in the security section.</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3566#discussion_r405247769">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +that some information be retained; see Section 4.6.1 of {{!TLS13}}. QUIC itself
+does not depend on any state being retained when resuming a connection, unless
+0-RTT is also used; see {{enable-0rtt}} and Section 7.3.1 of
+{{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}. Application protocols could depend on state that is
+retained between resumed connections.
+
+Clients can store any state required for resumption along with the session
+ticket. Servers can use the session ticket to help carry state.
+
+Session resumption allows servers to link activity on the original connection
+with the resumed connection, which might be a privacy issue for clients.
+Clients can choose not to enable resumption to avoid creating this correlation.
+Client SHOULD NOT reuse tickets as that allows entities other than the server
+to correlate connection; see Section C.4 of {{!TLS13}}.
+
+
</pre>
<p>Looks good. Simple and to the point. My only reservation is about the security section. Session resumption allows tracking by the server, and this is arguably a security issue. The text here properly describes the concern and the remediation, but I wonder whether should there be a mention of these potential privacy issues in the security section.</p>

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Now that we require a minimum packet size, this is no longer true.
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  * Remove dead note from header protection section

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    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md (5)

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<p>Now that we require a minimum packet size, this is no longer true.</p>

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-- Commit Summary --

  * Kramdown usage updates

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This was getting a little long.  You could get lost in there.

The text was fine, it was mostly well structured.  All it needed was one
small move and some headers.
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  * Add subsections to Retry packet section

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (15)

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<p>This was getting a little long.  You could get lost in there.</p>
<p>The text was fine, it was mostly well structured.  All it needed was one<br>
small move and some headers.</p>

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<h4>You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:</h4>
<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3570'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3570</a></p>

<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>Add subsections to Retry packet section</li>
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> @@ -4379,6 +4382,12 @@ client MUST NOT change the Source Connection ID because the server could include
 the connection ID as part of its token validation logic (see
 {{token-integrity}}).
 
+A Retry packet does not include a packet number and cannot be explicitly
+acknowledged by a client.
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+#### Completing a Handshake After Retry

```suggestion
#### Continuing a Handshake After Retry
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  Branch: refs/heads/retry-split
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-04-08 (Wed, 08 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Continuation does not imply completion

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> @@ -4379,6 +4382,12 @@ client MUST NOT change the Source Connection ID because the server could include
 the connection ID as part of its token validation logic (see
 {{token-integrity}}).
 
+A Retry packet does not include a packet number and cannot be explicitly
+acknowledged by a client.
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+#### Completing a Handshake After Retry

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3570#discussion_r405320105">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -4379,6 +4382,12 @@ client MUST NOT change the Source Connection ID because the server could include
 the connection ID as part of its token validation logic (see
 {{token-integrity}}).
 
+A Retry packet does not include a packet number and cannot be explicitly
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@ianswett approved this pull request.

One suggested clarification, but LGTM.

> +When retiring a connection ID, an endpoint remembers a sequence number and maybe
+a packet number for a RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame.  An endpoint SHOULD limit the
+state it commits by limiting the number of connection IDs that it tracks for

```suggestion
An endpoint SHOULD limit the
state it commits to retiring connection IDs using RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID by limiting the number of connection IDs that it tracks for
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The RACK draft has this as a SHOULD, and this was worthwhile in our deployment experience, so I think we should change our MAY to a SHOULD.

>From Section 4 of https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tcpm-rack-08
"3.  The RACK reordering window SHOULD leverage Duplicate Selective
       Acknowledgement (DSACK) information [RFC3708] to adaptively
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<p>The RACK draft has this as a SHOULD, and this was worthwhile in our deployment experience, so I think we should change our MAY to a SHOULD.</p>
<p>From Section 4 of <a href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tcpm-rack-08" rel="nofollow">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tcpm-rack-08</a><br>
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  Branch: refs/heads/ianswett-adaptive-loss
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-04-08 (Wed, 08 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

  Log Message:
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  SHOULD use adaptive thresholds

Fixes #3571



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Fixes #3571
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  * SHOULD use adaptive thresholds

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    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md (5)

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<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3571.">Fixes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="596606492" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3571" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3571/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3571">#3571</a></p>

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> @@ -648,6 +648,31 @@ messages and clients MUST treat receipt of such messages as a connection error
 of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.
 
 
+## Session Resumption {#resumption}
+
+QUIC can use the session resumption feature of TLS 1.3. It does this by
+carrying NewSessionTicket messages in CRYPTO frames after the handshake is
+complete. Session resumption is the basis of 0-RTT, but can be used without
+also enabling 0-RTT.
+
+Endpoints that use sesion resumption might need to remember some information

```suggestion
Endpoints that use session resumption might need to remember some information
```

> +
+Endpoints that use sesion resumption might need to remember some information
+about the current connection when creating a resumed connection. TLS requires
+that some information be retained; see Section 4.6.1 of {{!TLS13}}. QUIC itself
+does not depend on any state being retained when resuming a connection, unless
+0-RTT is also used; see {{enable-0rtt}} and Section 7.3.1 of
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+Client SHOULD NOT reuse tickets as that allows entities other than the server

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Transport section 9.5 says "An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID if it initiates connection migration as described in Section 9.2 or probes a new network path as described in Section 9.1. ". 

Section 19.15 (NEW_CONNECTION_ID) says: "An endpoint MUST NOT send this frame if it currently requires that its peer send packets with a zero-length Destination Connection ID. "

I take this means active migration cannot happen with 0-length ID.

BTW: in a few places "zero length" used over the more common "zero-length".

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<p>Transport section 9.5 says "An endpoint MUST use a new connection ID if it initiates connection migration as described in Section 9.2 or probes a new network path as described in Section 9.1. ".</p>
<p>Section 19.15 (NEW_CONNECTION_ID) says: "An endpoint MUST NOT send this frame if it currently requires that its peer send packets with a zero-length Destination Connection ID. "</p>
<p>I take this means active migration cannot happen with 0-length ID.</p>
<p>BTW: in a few places "zero length" used over the more common "zero-length".</p>

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56a5ef401e3be26ef9b984969673ffcbf016ea39  Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md


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Since RFC4653 doesn't seem like it would map to QUIC as readily as the stuff in the RACK draft about reorder-threshold tuning (it seems to be all about extending the Limited Transmit algorithm), maybe RACK is a better reference?

https://tools.ietf.org/pdf/draft-ietf-tcpm-rack-08.pdf
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<p>Since RFC4653 doesn't seem like it would map to QUIC as readily as the stuff in the RACK draft about reorder-threshold tuning (it seems to be all about extending the Limited Transmit algorithm), maybe RACK is a better reference?</p>
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I would prefer to reference RACK, but it's not an RFC yet and I'm not sure it will be prior to QUIC shipping.  What's the best way to handle that?

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> @@ -1069,9 +1069,8 @@ to cease using the connection IDs when requested can result in connection
 failures, as the issuing endpoint might be unable to continue using the
 connection IDs with the active connection.
 
-When retiring a connection ID, an endpoint remembers a sequence number and maybe
-a packet number for a RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame.  An endpoint SHOULD limit the
-state it commits by limiting the number of connection IDs that it tracks for
+An endpoint SHOULD limit the
+state it commits to retiring connection IDs using RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID by limiting the number of connection IDs that it tracks for

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> +An endpoint SHOULD limit the
+state it commits to retiring connection IDs using RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID by
+limiting the number of connection IDs that it tracks for

```suggestion
An endpoint SHOULD limit the state it commits to retiring connection IDs
using RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID by limiting the number of connection IDs that it tracks for
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> +An endpoint SHOULD limit the
+state it commits to retiring connection IDs using RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID by
+limiting the number of connection IDs that it tracks for
+retirement to at least twice the active_connection_id_limit. An endpoint MUST
+NOT forget a connection ID without retiring it, though MAY choose to treat
+having too many connection IDs in need of retirement as a connection error of
+type CONNECTION_ID_LIMIT_ERROR.

```suggestion
An endpoint SHOULD limit the state it commits to retiring connection IDs
using RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID by limiting the number of connection IDs that
it tracks for retirement to at least twice the active_connection_id_limit. An
endpoint MUST NOT forget a connection ID without retiring it, though MAY
choose to treat having too many connection IDs in need of retirement as a
connection error of type CONNECTION_ID_LIMIT_ERROR.
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4393b6dfc35064cc79493021ac6b80d460ad175f  Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md


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The QUIC recovery spec already references the RACK draft in multiple places.

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<p>The QUIC recovery spec already references the RACK draft in multiple places.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/ianswett-adaptive-loss
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  Changed paths:
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464d19911876512bf66747c79c7c85f0ff911139  Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md


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Fair point, I replaced the old reference with the RACK reference.  PTAL.

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[HTTP/2 PING frames](https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7540#section-6.7) exist to measure the round-trip delay, they're not specific to application-layer delay. QUIC blurs the layers in such a way that I don't think there is an actual difference between application-layer delay and network-layer delay. (Not that the OSI model ever made sense, but that's another conversation...) The combination of QUIC PING and ACK frames allow you to calculate the round-trip delay in a way that's even more accurate because the [ACK frame](https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-transport-27#section-19.3) carries  an `ACK Delay` field that allows you to compute on-device delay. Could you clarify what exactly it is that QUIC does not allow to measure today?

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<p><a href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7540#section-6.7" rel="nofollow">HTTP/2 PING frames</a> exist to measure the round-trip delay, they're not specific to application-layer delay. QUIC blurs the layers in such a way that I don't think there is an actual difference between application-layer delay and network-layer delay. (Not that the OSI model ever made sense, but that's another conversation...) The combination of QUIC PING and ACK frames allow you to calculate the round-trip delay in a way that's even more accurate because the <a href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-transport-27#section-19.3" rel="nofollow">ACK frame</a> carries  an <code>ACK Delay</code> field that allows you to compute on-device delay. Could you clarify what exactly it is that QUIC does not allow to measure today?</p>

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> @@ -4740,6 +4740,14 @@ preferred_address (0x0d):
   be at least one unused active connection ID when the client initiates
   migration to the preferred address.
 
+: The Connection ID and Stateless Reset Token fields of a preferred address are
+  identical in syntax and semantics to the corresponding fields of a
+  NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame ({{frame-new-connection-id}}).  A server that chooses
+  a zero-length connection ID MUST NOT provide a preferred address.  Similarly,

I don't think this is right. NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames don't ban zero-length CIDs. What NEW_CONNECTION_ID bans is switching between zero-length CIDs and non-zero-length CIDs. If the server is using a zero-length CID, it should be allowed to switch to a preferred address, and also use zero-length CIDs there.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3565#discussion_r405886745">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -4740,6 +4740,14 @@ preferred_address (0x0d):
   be at least one unused active connection ID when the client initiates
   migration to the preferred address.
 
+: The Connection ID and Stateless Reset Token fields of a preferred address are
+  identical in syntax and semantics to the corresponding fields of a
+  NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame ({{frame-new-connection-id}}).  A server that chooses
+  a zero-length connection ID MUST NOT provide a preferred address.  Similarly,
</pre>
<p>I don't think this is right. NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames don't ban zero-length CIDs. What NEW_CONNECTION_ID bans is switching between zero-length CIDs and non-zero-length CIDs. If the server is using a zero-length CID, it should be allowed to switch to a preferred address, and also use zero-length CIDs there.</p>

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Apologies for getting to this late, but I'm not sure I agree that we should disallow this. Here's a use-case that I think makes sense: the client wants to upload a very large file to the server over HTTP/3 and it has a small MTU, making it particularly sensitive to per-packet overheads. Let's also assume that we are in the future and the server supports IPv6 and has its own /64 (shocking!). In this scenario, a good way to reduce per-packet overhead is to operate the server on a given address, and then switch each client to their own unique server IP using preferred address, and then use zero-length CIDs. I've always found this use-case a good use of preferred address, and I would rather we didn't ban it without a good reason (and making the design cleaner doesn't necessarily count as a good reason at this stage in the process).

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<p>Apologies for getting to this late, but I'm not sure I agree that we should disallow this. Here's a use-case that I think makes sense: the client wants to upload a very large file to the server over HTTP/3 and it has a small MTU, making it particularly sensitive to per-packet overheads. Let's also assume that we are in the future and the server supports IPv6 and has its own /64 (shocking!). In this scenario, a good way to reduce per-packet overhead is to operate the server on a given address, and then switch each client to their own unique server IP using preferred address, and then use zero-length CIDs. I've always found this use-case a good use of preferred address, and I would rather we didn't ban it without a good reason (and making the design cleaner doesn't necessarily count as a good reason at this stage in the process).</p>

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I really think we shouldn't disallow connection migration when the server uses zero-length CIDs. As stated above, linkability can happen for a variety a reasons, and we should leave it up to the client to decide whether it wants its bytes to go through or not. Perhaps an editorial paragraph stating this in the migration section or security considerations would do the job.

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<p>I really think we shouldn't disallow connection migration when the server uses zero-length CIDs. As stated above, linkability can happen for a variety a reasons, and we should leave it up to the client to decide whether it wants its bytes to go through or not. Perhaps an editorial paragraph stating this in the migration section or security considerations would do the job.</p>

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> @@ -85,11 +85,11 @@ subsumed by QUIC, and describes how HTTP/2 extensions can be ported to HTTP/3.
 
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Should `(quic@ietf.org)` be changed as well?

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3569#discussion_r405890929">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -85,11 +85,11 @@ subsumed by QUIC, and describes how HTTP/2 extensions can be ported to HTTP/3.
 
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<p>Should <code>(quic@ietf.org)</code> be changed as well?</p>

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Another normative dependency on an experimental RFC.  And one that isn't in the [downref registry](https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/downref/).  Great.

This seems fine, but it's a design change.

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<p>Another normative dependency on an experimental RFC.  And one that isn't in the <a href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/downref/" rel="nofollow">downref registry</a>.  Great.</p>
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That is an example we discussed.  As Kazuho noted, that doesn't work as we have already agreed that any connection ID (in this case, a zero-length one) can be used prior to handshake completion.

That's why we ended up on 4.  As Ian noted, this isn't ideal, but this is an area that is ripe for extensions that might allow this sort of thing.

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<p>That is an example we discussed.  As Kazuho noted, that doesn't work as we have already agreed that any connection ID (in this case, a zero-length one) can be used prior to handshake completion.</p>
<p>That's why we ended up on 4.  As Ian noted, this isn't ideal, but this is an area that is ripe for extensions that might allow this sort of thing.</p>

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> @@ -4740,6 +4740,14 @@ preferred_address (0x0d):
   be at least one unused active connection ID when the client initiates
   migration to the preferred address.
 
+: The Connection ID and Stateless Reset Token fields of a preferred address are
+  identical in syntax and semantics to the corresponding fields of a
+  NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame ({{frame-new-connection-id}}).  A server that chooses
+  a zero-length connection ID MUST NOT provide a preferred address.  Similarly,

Thanks for taking this to the issue.

NEW_CONNECTION_ID can't [change to or from zero-length](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#section-19.15-6), so this is making this feature consistent with that.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3565#discussion_r405894081">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -4740,6 +4740,14 @@ preferred_address (0x0d):
   be at least one unused active connection ID when the client initiates
   migration to the preferred address.
 
+: The Connection ID and Stateless Reset Token fields of a preferred address are
+  identical in syntax and semantics to the corresponding fields of a
+  NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame ({{frame-new-connection-id}}).  A server that chooses
+  a zero-length connection ID MUST NOT provide a preferred address.  Similarly,
</pre>
<p>Thanks for taking this to the issue.</p>
<p>NEW_CONNECTION_ID can't <a href="https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#section-19.15-6" rel="nofollow">change to or from zero-length</a>, so this is making this feature consistent with that.</p>

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> @@ -85,11 +85,11 @@ subsumed by QUIC, and describes how HTTP/2 extensions can be ported to HTTP/3.
 
 Discussion of this draft takes place on the QUIC working group mailing list
 (quic@ietf.org), which is archived at

I considered switching to `[quic@ietf.org](mailto:quic@ietf.org)`, yeah.  I just have an aversion to mailto: links.  But since you asked...

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3569#discussion_r405894537">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -85,11 +85,11 @@ subsumed by QUIC, and describes how HTTP/2 extensions can be ported to HTTP/3.
 
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@martinthomson pushed 1 commit.

1bfa6f297c9b774e310f128a1f3c9fc450f2c2c2  Fix mailing list links too


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I don't understand what you meant by the following:
> we have already agreed that any connection ID (in this case, a zero-length one) can be used prior to handshake completion.

Can you clarify? I was under the impression that the client switches to the preferred address **after** the handshake is done.

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<p>I don't understand what you meant by the following:</p>
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<p>we have already agreed that any connection ID (in this case, a zero-length one) can be used prior to handshake completion.</p>
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<p>Can you clarify? I was under the impression that the client switches to the preferred address <strong>after</strong> the handshake is done.</p>

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Yes, you can't migrate (act on the address information) before the handshake is confirmed.  However, the connection ID is not special; it can be treated just like any other connection ID you learn, so you can act on the connection ID information before you confirm the handshake.

So that means that a server that opts to include a zero-length connection ID in the preferred_address might receive a packet with the zero-length connection ID at the old address.  That might not work out.

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<p>Yes, you can't migrate (act on the address information) before the handshake is confirmed.  However, the connection ID is not special; it can be treated just like any other connection ID you learn, so you can act on the connection ID information before you confirm the handshake.</p>
<p>So that means that a server that opts to include a zero-length connection ID in the preferred_address might receive a packet with the zero-length connection ID at the old address.  That might not work out.</p>

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@janaiyengar requested changes on this pull request.

A few comments. Most importantly, mention of ODCID field needs to be removed.

> +{{transport-parameters}}. This ensures that all connection IDs are authenticated
+by the cryptographic handshake.

```suggestion
{{transport-parameters}}. This ensures that all connection IDs used for the
handshake are also authenticated by the cryptographic handshake.
```

> +(original_connection_id, preferred_address, retry_connection_id, and
+stateless_reset_token). A server MUST treat receipt of any of these transport

```suggestion
original_connection_id, preferred_address, retry_connection_id, or
stateless_reset_token. A server MUST treat receipt of any of these transport
```

> @@ -4794,9 +4854,9 @@ immediately after opening.  If the transport parameter is absent, streams of
 that type start with a flow control limit of 0.
 
 A client MUST NOT include server-only transport parameters

```suggestion
A client MUST NOT include any server-only transport parameter:
```

> @@ -1475,6 +1475,49 @@ lifetime of a connection, especially in response to connection migration
 ({{migration}}); see {{issue-cid}} for details.
 
 
+## Authenticating Connection IDs {#cid-auth}
+
+The choice each endpoint makes about connection IDs during the handshake is
+authenticated by including all values in transport parameters; see
+{{transport-parameters}}. This ensures that all connection IDs are authenticated
+by the cryptographic handshake.
+
+Each endpoint includes the value of the Source Connection ID field from Initial
+packets it sends in the handshake_connection_id transport parameter; see
+{{transport-parameter-definitions}}. A server includes the Destination
+Connection ID field it receives in the original Initial packet from the client

```suggestion
Connection ID field it receives in original Initial packets from the client
- Initial packets received by the server prior to sending a Retry packet -
```

> +Each endpoint ensures that the values of the peer's transport parameters
+match the values the endpoint sent in its packet headers. The values

```suggestion
The values
```
This first sentence is unnecessary.

> +values that an endpoint used in the Destination Connection ID field of an
+Initial packet. Including connection ID values in transport parameters and

```suggestion
values that an endpoint used in the Destination Connection ID field of Initial
packets that it sent. Including connection ID values in transport parameters and
```

> +verifying them ensures that the choice of connection ID cannot be influenced by
+an attacker. An endpoint MUST treat any of the following as a connection error
+of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION:

```suggestion
verifying them ensures that that an attacker cannot influence the choice of
connection ID for a successful connection by injecting packets carrying
attacker-chosen connection IDs during the handshake. An endpoint MUST
treat any of the following as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION:
```

> +{{transport-parameter-definitions}}.  If the server sends a Retry packet, the
+server adds a retry_connection_id transport parameter that contains the value of
+the Source Connection ID field from the Retry packet.

```suggestion
{{transport-parameter-definitions}}.  If it sends a Retry packet, the server
also subsequently includes the value of the Source Connection ID field from
the Retry packet in its retry_connection_id transport parameter.
```

> +A server always includes an original_connection_id transport parameter. If the
+server sends a Retry packet, it MUST include the Destination Connection ID field
+from the client's first Initial packet in the original_connection_id transport
+parameter; otherwise the original_connection_id transport parameter MUST be
+copied from the client Initial.

```suggestion
A server always includes an original_connection_id transport parameter. If it
sends a Retry packet, the server MUST subsequently include the Destination
Connection ID field from the client's original Initial packets - packets received
by the server prior to sending the Retry packet -  in the original_connection_id
transport parameter. If the server did not send a Retry packet, the value of the
original_connection_id transport parameter MUST be copied from the
Destination Connection ID field of the most recent client Initial packets.
```

> +  by a server.  This is the same value sent in the Original Destination
+  Connection ID field that is used to construct a Retry packet (see
+  {{packet-retry}}).

```suggestion
  by a server.  The value of this parameter depends on whether the server
  sent a Retry packet (see {{packet-retry}}).
```

> @@ -1475,6 +1475,48 @@ lifetime of a connection, especially in response to connection migration
 ({{migration}}); see {{issue-cid}} for details.
 
 
+## Authenticating Connection IDs {#cid-auth}
+
+The choice each endpoint makes about connection IDs during the handshake is
+authenticated by including all values in transport parameters; see
+{{transport-parameters}}. This ensures that all connection IDs are authenticated
+by the cryptographic handshake.
+
+Each endpoint includes the value of the Source Connection ID field from Initial
+packets it sends in the handshake_connection_id transport parameter; see

In keeping with retry_connection_id being the SCID that is used on Retry packets, I have a preference for initial_connection_id, since it is the SCID used on Initial packets. 

In the same vein, and this is a weaker preference, I would propose changing original_connection_id to original_initial_connection_id. I think this makes it clear that this might have been initial_connection_id had it not been for a Retry.

> +Each endpoint includes the value of the Source Connection ID field from Initial
+packets it sends in the handshake_connection_id transport parameter; see

```suggestion
Each endpoint includes the value of the Source Connection ID field from the 
most recent Initial packet it sent in the handshake_connection_id transport
parameter; see
```

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server sends a Retry packet, the=0D
-server adds a retry_connection_id transport parameter that contains the =
value of=0D
-the Source Connection ID field from the Retry packet.=0D
+{{transport-parameter-definitions}}.  If it sends a Retry packet, the se=
rver=0D
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<pre style=3D'color:#555'>&gt; +A server always includes an original_conn=
ection_id transport parameter. If the=0D
+server sends a Retry packet, it MUST include the Destination Connection =
ID field=0D
+from the client&#39;s first Initial packet in the original_connection_id=
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If it=0D
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on=0D
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-  Connection ID field that is used to construct a Retry packet (see=0D
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+  by a server.  The value of this parameter depends on whether the serve=
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 is=0D
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=0D
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I changed to initial_connection_id.  I don't necessarily like that we are using "original" and "initial", but I think that's marginally better than creating the obviously redundant "original_initial_" variant of this.

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<p>I changed to initial_connection_id.  I don't necessarily like that we are using "original" and "initial", but I think that's marginally better than creating the obviously redundant "original_initial_" variant of this.</p>

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@janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

Thanks, Ian, a couple of comments.

> @@ -501,7 +501,13 @@ packet on a PTO expiration before confirming that the server is able to decrypt
 expiration before it has the keys to process an acknowledgement.
 
 When a PTO timer expires, the PTO period MUST be set to twice its current
-value. This exponential reduction in the sender's rate is important because
+value.  The PTO period is reset based on the latest rtt information when

```suggestion
value.  The PTO period is set based on the latest RTT information when
```

> @@ -501,7 +501,13 @@ packet on a PTO expiration before confirming that the server is able to decrypt
 expiration before it has the keys to process an acknowledgement.
 
 When a PTO timer expires, the PTO period MUST be set to twice its current
-value. This exponential reduction in the sender's rate is important because
+value.  The PTO period is reset based on the latest rtt information when
+receiving an acknowledgement if the peer has completed address validation.
+The PTO timer is not decreased while the peer is validating the

```suggestion
The PTO backoff is not decreased even on receiving an
acknowledgement as long as the peer is validating this endpoint's
```

> +address, to ensure the endpoint's anti-deadlock timer does not fire too
+aggressively when the server does not yet have handshake data to send.

```suggestion
address. Doing so ensures that the endpoint's anti-deadlock timer is not 
set too aggressively when the server seems to be slow in responding with
handshake data.
```

> @@ -1147,7 +1153,10 @@ OnAckReceived(ack, pn_space):
     OnPacketsLost(lost_packets)
   OnPacketsAcked(newly_acked_packets)
 
-  pto_count = 0
+  // Reset pto_count unless the server has not yet
+  // validated the client's address.
+  if (PeerCompletedAddressValidation()):
+    pto_count = 0
   SetLossDetectionTimer()

Should this also be done only when pto_count is set to 0? Why restart the timer here if the pto_count hasn't changed?

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What's the point of including a connection ID (and stateless reset token) in the `preferred_address` transport parameter if that CID isn't tied to the preferred address in any way? At that point might as well remove that CID entirely and rely on NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames. My understanding was that the reason for there being a CID in the `preferred_address` TP was specifically to make that CID special. Would it make sense to just say that this CID MUST NOT be used when sending to the handshake server IP?

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<p>What's the point of including a connection ID (and stateless reset token) in the <code>preferred_address</code> transport parameter if that CID isn't tied to the preferred address in any way? At that point might as well remove that CID entirely and rely on NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames. My understanding was that the reason for there being a CID in the <code>preferred_address</code> TP was specifically to make that CID special. Would it make sense to just say that this CID MUST NOT be used when sending to the handshake server IP?</p>

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the reason for having a connection ID in the transport parameter is only so that the client has a connection ID to use for the new path

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<p>the reason for having a connection ID in the transport parameter is only so that the client has a connection ID to use for the new path</p>

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I would like to not see a dependency on the RACK draft here. If we want this to become a SHOULD, we really need to spell out what an implementation SHOULD do more precisely and not just point to RACK.

That said, I'm not convinced that we should do a SHOULD here. I understand that you see an improvement (that might be worth noting in the spec), which is a perfectly good reason encourage others to implement and experiment, but why is a MAY not adequate, given that we have limited experience?

I also am not convinced that this is important enough to warrant a design change at this late stage. Do you think this performance impact is significant enough to argue for this change?

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<p>I would like to not see a dependency on the RACK draft here. If we want this to become a SHOULD, we really need to spell out what an implementation SHOULD do more precisely and not just point to RACK.</p>
<p>That said, I'm not convinced that we should do a SHOULD here. I understand that you see an improvement (that might be worth noting in the spec), which is a perfectly good reason encourage others to implement and experiment, but why is a MAY not adequate, given that we have limited experience?</p>
<p>I also am not convinced that this is important enough to warrant a design change at this late stage. Do you think this performance impact is significant enough to argue for this change?</p>

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As Matt Olson pointed out, we already reference RACK informationally.  We could remove all the references to RACK, but I think that's a separate question?  We can more clearly explain what this means or re-instate the reference to RFC4653.

TCP has been doing this for a very long time, so I don't think the fact we have limited experience in QUIC is as important.  In terms of 'new information', the performance improvement from adaptive packet threshold was measurable for both application latency and by reducing the rate of spurious retransmits.  And I finally read the RACK draft and noticed it was a SHOULD there.

The original intent was to change a MAY to a SHOULD, which is a very small design change, but then I realized the existing text wasn't that clear, so I tried to improve it.  We have to do another round of consensus calls in the next few weeks, so though this change is very small, it seems like the right thing to do to me.

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<p>As Matt Olson pointed out, we already reference RACK informationally.  We could remove all the references to RACK, but I think that's a separate question?  We can more clearly explain what this means or re-instate the reference to RFC4653.</p>
<p>TCP has been doing this for a very long time, so I don't think the fact we have limited experience in QUIC is as important.  In terms of 'new information', the performance improvement from adaptive packet threshold was measurable for both application latency and by reducing the rate of spurious retransmits.  And I finally read the RACK draft and noticed it was a SHOULD there.</p>
<p>The original intent was to change a MAY to a SHOULD, which is a very small design change, but then I realized the existing text wasn't that clear, so I tried to improve it.  We have to do another round of consensus calls in the next few weeks, so though this change is very small, it seems like the right thing to do to me.</p>

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@ianswett approved this pull request.

I'd prefer to differentiate Type from Stream Type in H3, but otherwise LGTM.

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To avoid changing the name or be confused with the 'Type' used in all the frames.

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@MikeBishop commented on this pull request.

But...!  But...!  *Muh ASCII art!*

More seriously, this is probably a net improvement for readability.  There's value in conforming to existing paradigms where possible, but we'd already had to define custom extensions to the notation from RFC2360, so this is probably no worse.

I'm really not a fan of the trailing comma in the lists, but that's neither here nor there.

> +  Protected Payload (0..24), # Skipped
+  Protected Payload (128),   # Sampled

```suggestion
  Protected Payload (0..24), # Skipped Part
  Protected Payload (128),   # Sampled Part
```
Inconsistent with the below.  Resolve either direction, but I don't see a reason to make them different.

> +  Protected Payload (128),   # Sampled
+  Protected Payload (..)     # Remainder
+}
+
+Short Header Packet {
+  Header Form (1) = 0,
+  Fixed Bit (1) = 1,
+  Spin Bit (1),
+  Reserved Bits (2),         # Protected
+  Key Phase (1),             # Protected
+  Packet Number Length (2),  # Protected
+  Destination Connection ID (0..160),
+  Packet Number (8..32),     # Protected
+  Protected Payload (0..24), # Skipped Part
+  Protected Payload (128),   # Sampled Part
+  Protected Payload (..)     # Remainder

```suggestion
  Protected Payload (..),    # Remainder
```
I'm not really a fan of the trailing commas, but for consistency sake, you missed this one.

> +  a mimumum of zero bits and B can be omitted to indicate no set upper limit;
+  values always end on an octet boundary

```suggestion
  a mimumum of zero bits and B can be omitted to indicate no set upper limit;
  values in this format always end on an octet boundary
```
Just to be clear, since not all values end on an octet boundary.  I do think separate sentences would be more readable, but then it would be inconsistent with the others.

> +
+x (?) = C:
+: Indicates that x has a fixed value of C
+
+x (?) = C..D:
+: Indicates that x has a value in the range from C to D, inclusive
+
+\[x (E)\]:
+: Indicates that x is optional (and has length of E)
+
+x (E) ...:
+: Indicates that x is repeated zero or more times (and that each instance is
+  length E)
+
+By convention, individual fields reference a complex field by using the name of
+that the complex field.

```suggestion
the complex field.
```

> +  Variable-Length Field (8..24),
+  Field With Minimum Length (16..),

```suggestion
  Arbitrary-Length Field (..),
  Variable-Length Field (8..24),
  Field With Minimum Length (16..),
```

Omitting both ends is used in the document and consistent with the definition, but not clearly spelled out or used in an example.

> @@ -3926,11 +3938,11 @@ DCID Len:
 
 Destination Connection ID:
 
-: The Destination Connection ID field follows the DCID Len and is between 0 and
-  20 bytes in length. {{negotiating-connection-ids}} describes the use of this
-  field in more detail.
+: The Destination Connection ID field follows the DCID Length and is between 0

```suggestion
: The Destination Connection ID field follows the DCID Length field and is between 0
```

> @@ -3942,7 +3954,7 @@ SCID Len:
 
 Source Connection ID:
 
-: The Source Connection ID field follows the SCID Len and is between 0 and 20
+: The Source Connection ID field follows the SCID Length and is between 0 and 20

```suggestion
: The Source Connection ID field follows the SCID Length field and is between 0 and 20
```

> -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
-|                     Packet Number (8/16/24/32)              ...
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
-|                     Protected Payload (*)                   ...
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+Short Header Packet {
+  Header Form (1) = 0,
+  Fixed Bit (1) = 1,
+  Spin Bit (1),
+  Reserved Bits (2),
+  Key Phase (1),
+  Packet Number Length (2),
+  Destination Connection ID (0..160),
+  Packet Number (8..32),
+  Packet Payload (..),
+}
 ~~~~~
 {: #fig-short-header title="Short Header Packet Format"}
 

GitHub won't let me put a comment down there (too far from a change), but you can remove the (S), (R), (K), (P) notations from the field definitions, since they're not needed to correlate with the diagram.

> @@ -5354,13 +5257,11 @@ with error STREAM_STATE_ERROR.
 The MAX_STREAM_DATA frame is shown in {{fig-max-stream-data}}.
 
 ~~~
- 0                   1                   2                   3
- 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
-|                        Stream ID (i)                        ...
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
-|                    Maximum Stream Data (i)                  ...
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+MAX_STREAM_DATA Frame {
+  Type (i) = 0x11,
+  Stream ID (i),
+  Maximum Data (i),

Orthogonal to this PR, but perhaps we should align the "Maximum Data" and "Data Limit" terms which reference the same limit in different frames?

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A QUIC implementation can provide a feature to trigger a PING frame and optionally check the time until it gets ACK'd.  I don't think that's something the specification needs to require, because it's not required for interoperability, but it's certainly a capability that market pressure might drive an implementation to expose.

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<p>A QUIC implementation can provide a feature to trigger a PING frame and optionally check the time until it gets ACK'd.  I don't think that's something the specification needs to require, because it's not required for interoperability, but it's certainly a capability that market pressure might drive an implementation to expose.</p>

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Is this no longer true for the algorithms defined in the spec, or no longer true for any packet protection algorithms for any AEAD?  It might be worth moving the note to the end of 5.4.1 instead.

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<p>Is this no longer true for the algorithms defined in the spec, or no longer true for any packet protection algorithms for any AEAD?  It might be worth moving the note to the end of 5.4.1 instead.</p>

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Did you consider TLS presentation language?  It would be nice to not have n+1 formats.

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<p>Did you consider TLS presentation language?  It would be nice to not have n+1 formats.</p>

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@DavidSchinazi I agree with your intuition, but I think we discussed this in Zurich and ended up concluding the preferred_address CIDs weren't special.  This was in issue #3348 and also came up in #3353 (which I realize hasn't gone out for a consensus call yet, that PR seems stalled?).

In the upload example, the server needs to know that the client is going to send a lot of data, which it might know via SNI, or it might not.  I tend to think the more annoying restriction is that you can't change from a non-0 length CID to a 0-length one and vice versa.  By supplying a 0-length CID later in the connection along with other CIDs, the client could choose whether it wanted to use a 0-length CID at any time.

Thinking out loud, an easier solution may be a TP like 'accept_empty_connection_id' that indicates at anytime, the peer can switch to a 0-length CID if it wants.  It could either think the 5-tuple is stable or its happy re-establishing the path with a non 0-length CID after a NAT rebind.  In this world, the Connection ID is more of a path re-establishment token.

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@richsalz, TLS presentation language implies length prefixes in a _lot_ of places.  Plus we already ripped out TLS presentation language for definition of the transport parameters.  Bringing it back for definition of packet layouts would be... a bit weird.

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@MikeBishop approved this pull request.

Looks good.

> @@ -1544,7 +1588,6 @@ that are smaller than the remembered value of the parameters.
 * initial_max_stream_data_uni
 * initial_max_streams_bidi
 * initial_max_streams_uni
-* active_connection_id_limit

Why was this removed in this PR?

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<p><b>@MikeBishop</b> approved this pull request.</p>

<p>Looks good.</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3499#discussion_r406304328">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1544,7 +1588,6 @@ that are smaller than the remembered value of the parameters.
 * initial_max_stream_data_uni
 * initial_max_streams_bidi
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Actually, I am doing some research on H3 request schedule mechanism using HTTP/3 connection level delay partly. Yet neither the spec of H3 nor QUIC provides an interface to fetch delay from H3 connection or QUIC connection. Workarounds do exists, if I use ICMP PING Frame, or calculate TTFB when I send H3 request as result, or get it directly from QUIC congestion control module. But none of these workarounds fit my purpose on pro-actively retrieving the dealy of H3 connection or QUIC connection. At last, I end up implementing by pro-actively send QUIC PING Frame and wait my peer
acknowledges the QUIC packet contains it.

I found another research doing the similar thing as I do. Their paper is "MP-H2: A Client-only Multipath Solution for HTTP/2". They just use the H2 PING and corresponding ack to get H2-level delay.

This is all I am thinking about.

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<p>Actually, I am doing some research on H3 request schedule mechanism using HTTP/3 connection level delay partly. Yet neither the spec of H3 nor QUIC provides an interface to fetch delay from H3 connection or QUIC connection. Workarounds do exists, if I use ICMP PING Frame, or calculate TTFB when I send H3 request as result, or get it directly from QUIC congestion control module. But none of these workarounds fit my purpose on pro-actively retrieving the dealy of H3 connection or QUIC connection. At last, I end up implementing by pro-actively send QUIC PING Frame and wait my peer<br>
acknowledges the QUIC packet contains it.</p>
<p>I found another research doing the similar thing as I do. Their paper is "MP-H2: A Client-only Multipath Solution for HTTP/2". They just use the H2 PING and corresponding ack to get H2-level delay.</p>
<p>This is all I am thinking about.</p>

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@ianswett commented on this pull request.



> @@ -1147,7 +1153,10 @@ OnAckReceived(ack, pn_space):
     OnPacketsLost(lost_packets)
   OnPacketsAcked(newly_acked_packets)
 
-  pto_count = 0
+  // Reset pto_count unless the server has not yet
+  // validated the client's address.
+  if (PeerCompletedAddressValidation()):
+    pto_count = 0
   SetLossDetectionTimer()

A new RTT measurement is available, so the alarm value should always be updated.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3551#discussion_r406308067">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1147,7 +1153,10 @@ OnAckReceived(ack, pn_space):
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   OnPacketsAcked(newly_acked_packets)
 
-  pto_count = 0
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+  // validated the client&#39;s address.
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-04-09 (Thu, 09 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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e192b697af82865eedc302435a35bd99bede506b  Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md


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> +address, to ensure the endpoint's anti-deadlock timer does not fire too
+aggressively when the server does not yet have handshake data to send.

Taken with a small tweak.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3551#discussion_r406314359">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +address, to ensure the endpoint&#39;s anti-deadlock timer does not fire too
+aggressively when the server does not yet have handshake data to send.
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I'm not seeing the issue here. 

The QUIC transport provides the capability to send PING and measure the time until it is ACK'd. It seems like you are using this and it works for you?

The HTTP/3 mapping can use all transport features, it doesn't need to redefine them. So as Mike says, the discussion becomes one about implementation API and how an HTTP/3 implementation might choose to expose transport layer features. That is not something the QUIC WG needs to consider in the specification(s) IMO.

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<p>I'm not seeing the issue here.</p>
<p>The QUIC transport provides the capability to send PING and measure the time until it is ACK'd. It seems like you are using this and it works for you?</p>
<p>The HTTP/3 mapping can use all transport features, it doesn't need to redefine them. So as Mike says, the discussion becomes one about implementation API and how an HTTP/3 implementation might choose to expose transport layer features. That is not something the QUIC WG needs to consider in the specification(s) IMO.</p>

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02069cd3461402b75d3a6b5924728875ae58277e  Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md


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Thanks for the details @ianswett and @martinthomson. I get a sense I might be trying to re-litigate  past consensus without providing new information, so I'll back down. I do think that the ghost of hypothetical linkability has caused us to make some very odd design choices, but this isn't new to this issue/PR. In the end, this is the kind of feature that can be enabled by extensions so I can live with us further restricting the base spec for consistency.

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> +Endpoints that use session resumption might need to remember some information
+about the current connection when creating a resumed connection. TLS requires
+that some information be retained; see Section 4.6.1 of {{!TLS13}}. QUIC itself
+does not depend on any state being retained when resuming a connection, unless
+0-RTT is also used; see {{enable-0rtt}} and Section 7.3.1 of
+{{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}. Application protocols could depend on state that is
+retained between resumed connections.
+
+Clients can store any state required for resumption along with the session
+ticket. Servers can use the session ticket to help carry state.
+
+Session resumption allows servers to link activity on the original connection
+with the resumed connection, which might be a privacy issue for clients.
+Clients can choose not to enable resumption to avoid creating this correlation.
+Client SHOULD NOT reuse tickets as that allows entities other than the server
+to correlate connection; see Section C.4 of {{!TLS13}}.

```suggestion
to correlate connections; see Section C.4 of {{!TLS13}}.
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I understand that this might have performance benefit that is worth exploring further.  I question the need for doing it at this late stage, given that we will find more and more things that help with performance as we gain further experience with the protocol.

RACK is currently an informational reference, meaning that it is not required reading for an implementer. This change would make it a normative reference, and we don't have such dependencies on any TCP document at the moment. (I see that F-RTO is listed as normative, but it isn't really, I'll send a PR to fix that.)

This isn't a small change because just changing a MAY to a SHOULD isn't enough. We cannot change a "MAY adapt" to a "SHOULD adapt" without saying exactly what "SHOULD adapt" means for an implementer. At a minimum, this requires changes to the text and to the pseudo-code that include a precise description and an algorithm for adapting. (The RACK draft suggests one, but again, it's not clear to me whether that one is what we should be recommending. I want to try it out for sure though.)

On TCP's experience with this: While I understand that RACK has been deployed for a few years, I don't believe we know how much improvement this specific part of it brings, especially given the DSACK dependency in TCP (Praveen can perhaps shed some light on DSACK deployment at clients, but ... this isn't my central argument.). If there is public information about this, I would love to look at it to have a better understanding.

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<p>I understand that this might have performance benefit that is worth exploring further.  I question the need for doing it at this late stage, given that we will find more and more things that help with performance as we gain further experience with the protocol.</p>
<p>RACK is currently an informational reference, meaning that it is not required reading for an implementer. This change would make it a normative reference, and we don't have such dependencies on any TCP document at the moment. (I see that F-RTO is listed as normative, but it isn't really, I'll send a PR to fix that.)</p>
<p>This isn't a small change because just changing a MAY to a SHOULD isn't enough. We cannot change a "MAY adapt" to a "SHOULD adapt" without saying exactly what "SHOULD adapt" means for an implementer. At a minimum, this requires changes to the text and to the pseudo-code that include a precise description and an algorithm for adapting. (The RACK draft suggests one, but again, it's not clear to me whether that one is what we should be recommending. I want to try it out for sure though.)</p>
<p>On TCP's experience with this: While I understand that RACK has been deployed for a few years, I don't believe we know how much improvement this specific part of it brings, especially given the DSACK dependency in TCP (Praveen can perhaps shed some light on DSACK deployment at clients, but ... this isn't my central argument.). If there is public information about this, I would love to look at it to have a better understanding.</p>

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  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-04-09 (Thu, 09 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

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This wasn&#39;t meant to be normative.
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  * Fix reference to RFC5682

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<p>This wasn't meant to be normative.</p>

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I really like this format.

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Thanks for the comments from @DavidSchinazi, @MikeBishop, @LPardue, and @agrover. It seems that I have think too much on what QUIC spec shoud do. I am going to close this issue, and open seperate issue on QUIC implementations to request such feature.

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I still intend RACK to be an informational reference(PR uses a ?, not a !), not normative.  The intent was to update from an older informational reference(TCP-NCR) to a newer one.

This mechanism was deployed in Linux long before RACK.

It seems your point is that by changing from MAY to SHOULD, that puts a requirement upon us to fully describe the algorithm in text and pseudocode?  I don't see that as a hard requirement, and as you can see in my PR, I didn't intent to do that.

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<p>I still intend RACK to be an informational reference(PR uses a ?, not a !), not normative.  The intent was to update from an older informational reference(TCP-NCR) to a newer one.</p>
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<p>It seems your point is that by changing from MAY to SHOULD, that puts a requirement upon us to fully describe the algorithm in text and pseudocode?  I don't see that as a hard requirement, and as you can see in my PR, I didn't intent to do that.</p>

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Does it need to be normative at all?  What about simply noting that adaptive strategies such as X, Y, and Z have proven to be useful in TCP, and would apply equally to QUIC?

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<p>Does it need to be normative at all?  What about simply noting that adaptive strategies such as X, Y, and Z have proven to be useful in TCP, and would apply equally to QUIC?</p>

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Why not delta encode addition sequence numbers?

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We had tried to provide a clearer definition of pacing here:
https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3351

This includes specification for how long should an implementation wait between two consecutive bursts:
`To effectively avoid creating these large packet bursts, a sender SHOULD also
 enforce a minimum time between sending the above mentioned bursts. To
 achieve high throughput while at the same time minimizing the bursts it is
 considered safe to wait for (RTT * maximum_burst_size / (cwnd * 2)) seconds
 between each burst (multiplying the congestion window by two allows the
 the rate to increase during slow-start).`

If the text in #3351 looks close to what we want, I can recreate the PR and we can go from there.

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<p>We had tried to provide a clearer definition of pacing here:<br>
<a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="550442699" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3351" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3351/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3351">#3351</a></p>
<p>This includes specification for how long should an implementation wait between two consecutive bursts:<br>
<code>To effectively avoid creating these large packet bursts, a sender SHOULD also enforce a minimum time between sending the above mentioned bursts. To achieve high throughput while at the same time minimizing the bursts it is considered safe to wait for (RTT * maximum_burst_size / (cwnd * 2)) seconds between each burst (multiplying the congestion window by two allows the the rate to increase during slow-start).</code></p>
<p>If the text in <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="550442699" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3351" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3351/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3351">#3351</a> looks close to what we want, I can recreate the PR and we can go from there.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/qpack-security
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
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      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/25f837ca39c34cf470762c3471cbb4ef61524e9c
  Author: Alan Frindell <afrind@fb.com>
  Date:   2020-04-13 (Mon, 13 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md

  Log Message:
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  QPACK security considerations

Behold

Fixes: 1737



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Behold

Fixes: 1737
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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3575

-- Commit Summary --

  * QPACK security considerations

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    M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md (236)

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<p>Behold</p>
<p>Fixes: 1737</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  [qpack] Add comment explaining static table

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Fixes #3562
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  * [qpack] Add comment explaining static table

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    M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md (6)

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<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3562.">Fixes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="590913270" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3562" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3562/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3562">#3562</a></p>

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The code comes from a time when the index space was unified, and the first staticTable.size indexes were static and the rest were dynamic.  And yes, getNameIndex can return "not found".  I'll add some comments explaining this case and sanitize the pseudocode.

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<p>The code comes from a time when the index space was unified, and the first staticTable.size indexes were static and the rest were dynamic.  And yes, getNameIndex can return "not found".  I'll add some comments explaining this case and sanitize the pseudocode.</p>

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e2f2b33800cb09add5e185e09f1512ef71e86099  Restore active_connection_id_limit


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* Use the current terminology (insert count, base, encoder stream)
* Update to current design (modulo encoding of RIC)
* Normalize naming: index vs. idx
* Comments

Fixes #3544
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<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3544.">Fixes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="586787843" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3544" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3544/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3544">#3544</a></p>

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> @@ -1544,7 +1588,6 @@ that are smaller than the remembered value of the parameters.
 * initial_max_stream_data_uni
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-* active_connection_id_limit

A rebasing error.  I added something to this list, sorted it, removed it, now fixed it.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3499#discussion_r407768333">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
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  Changed paths:
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  [qpack] Fix example

The algorithm was updated at somepoint but the example was lagging.

Fixes #3549



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The algorithm was updated at somepoint but the example was lagging.

Fixes #3549
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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3578

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  * [qpack] Fix example

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    M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md (2)

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<p>The algorithm was updated at somepoint but the example was lagging.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3549.">Fixes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="589666806" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3549" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3549/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3549">#3549</a></p>

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  <li>[qpack] Fix example</li>
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> +
+Endpoints that use sesion resumption might need to remember some information
+about the current connection when creating a resumed connection. TLS requires
+that some information be retained; see Section 4.6.1 of {{!TLS13}}. QUIC itself
+does not depend on any state being retained when resuming a connection, unless
+0-RTT is also used; see {{enable-0rtt}} and Section 7.3.1 of
+{{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}. Application protocols could depend on state that is
+retained between resumed connections.
+
+Clients can store any state required for resumption along with the session
+ticket. Servers can use the session ticket to help carry state.
+
+Session resumption allows servers to link activity on the original connection
+with the resumed connection, which might be a privacy issue for clients.
+Clients can choose not to enable resumption to avoid creating this correlation.
+Client SHOULD NOT reuse tickets as that allows entities other than the server

TLS uses "reuse", so we can reuse that (sorry).

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3566#discussion_r405892489">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +
+Endpoints that use sesion resumption might need to remember some information
+about the current connection when creating a resumed connection. TLS requires
+that some information be retained; see Section 4.6.1 of {{!TLS13}}. QUIC itself
+does not depend on any state being retained when resuming a connection, unless
+0-RTT is also used; see {{enable-0rtt}} and Section 7.3.1 of
+{{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}. Application protocols could depend on state that is
+retained between resumed connections.
+
+Clients can store any state required for resumption along with the session
+ticket. Servers can use the session ticket to help carry state.
+
+Session resumption allows servers to link activity on the original connection
+with the resumed connection, which might be a privacy issue for clients.
+Clients can choose not to enable resumption to avoid creating this correlation.
+Client SHOULD NOT reuse tickets as that allows entities other than the server
</pre>
<p>TLS uses "reuse", so we can reuse that (sorry).</p>

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Orthogonal to this PR, but perhaps we should align the "Maximum Data" and "Data Limit" terms which reference the same limit in different frames?

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<p>Orthogonal to this PR, but perhaps we should align the "Maximum Data" and "Data Limit" terms which reference the same limit in different frames?</p>
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  Branch: refs/heads/alternative-format
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: 953d93e0feb839717c2881b7e901011af3f54ca6
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  Changed paths:
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  Rewrap


  Commit: 93f3cd4461ca858bd7943f0bf6b10779c3384166
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  Remove parenthesized letters from bit notation


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SGTM.  Maximum Data(or Max Data) seems like the preferable option to me.

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@martinthomson pushed 2 commits.

953d93e0feb839717c2881b7e901011af3f54ca6  Rewrap
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@martinthomson approved this pull request.=0D
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This looks good.  But then I'm not impartial in this.=0D
=0D
An informative reference to HPACK might be wise.  Otherwise people might =
get an unexplained sense of d=C3=A9j=C3=A0 vu.=0D
=0D
> +=0D
+The compression context used to encode header fields can be probed by an=
=0D
+attacker who can both define header fields to be encoded and transmitted=
 and=0D
+observe the length of those fields once they are encoded. When an attack=
er can=0D
+do both, they can adaptively modify requests in order to confirm guesses=
 about=0D
+the dynamic table state. If a guess is compressed into a shorter length,=
 the=0D
+attacker can observe the encoded length and infer that the guess was cor=
rect.=0D
+=0D
+This is possible even over the Transport Layer Security Protocol (TLS, s=
ee=0D
+{{?RFC5246}}), because while TLS provides confidentiality protection for=
=0D
+content, it only provides a limited amount of protection for the length =
of that=0D
+content.=0D
+=0D
+Note:=0D
+=0D
+Padding schemes only provide limited protection against an attacker with=
 these=0D
=0D
```suggestion=0D
: Padding schemes only provide limited protection against an attacker wit=
h these=0D
```=0D
=0D
> +=0D
+Users of HTTP that require confidentiality for header fields can use val=
ues with=0D
+entropy sufficient to make guessing infeasible. However, this is impract=
ical as=0D
+a general solution because it forces all users of HTTP to take steps to =
mitigate=0D
+attacks. It would impose new constraints on how HTTP is used.=0D
+=0D
+Rather than impose constraints on users of HTTP, an implementation of QP=
ACK can=0D
+instead constrain how compression is applied in order to limit the poten=
tial for=0D
+dynamic table probing.=0D
+=0D
+An ideal solution segregates access to the dynamic table based on the en=
tity=0D
+that is constructing header fields. Header field values that are added t=
o the=0D
+table are attributed to an entity, and only the entity that created a pa=
rticular=0D
+value can extract that value.=0D
+=0D
+To improve compression performance of tqhis option, certain entries migh=
t be tagged as being public. For example, a web browser might make the va=
lues of the Accept-Encoding header field available in all requests.=0D
=0D
```suggestion=0D
To improve compression performance of this option, certain entries might =
be=0D
tagged as being public. For example, a web browser might make the values =
of the=0D
Accept-Encoding header field available in all requests.=0D
```=0D
=0D
> +An ideal solution segregates access to the dynamic table based on the =
entity=0D
+that is constructing header fields. Header field values that are added t=
o the=0D
+table are attributed to an entity, and only the entity that created a pa=
rticular=0D
+value can extract that value.=0D
+=0D
+To improve compression performance of tqhis option, certain entries migh=
t be tagged as being public. For example, a web browser might make the va=
lues of the Accept-Encoding header field available in all requests.=0D
+=0D
+An encoder without good knowledge of the provenance of header fields mig=
ht=0D
+instead introduce a penalty for a header field with many different value=
s, such=0D
+that a large number of attempts to guess a header field value results in=
 the=0D
+header field no more being compared to the dynamic table entries in futu=
re=0D
+messages, effectively preventing further guesses.=0D
+=0D
+Note:=0D
+=0D
+Simply removing entries corresponding to the header field from the dynam=
ic table=0D
=0D
```suggestion=0D
: Simply removing entries corresponding to the header field from the dyna=
mic table=0D
```=0D
=0D
> +that a large number of attempts to guess a header field value results =
in the=0D
+header field no more being compared to the dynamic table entries in futu=
re=0D
+messages, effectively preventing further guesses.=0D
=0D
```suggestion=0D
that a large number of attempts to guess a header field value results in =
the=0D
header field not being compared to the dynamic table entries in future=0D=

messages, effectively preventing further guesses.=0D
```=0D
=0D
I had a little trouble with "no more".=0D
=0D
> +field value. Marking a header field as not using the dynamic table any=
 more=0D
+might occur for shorter values more quickly or with higher probability t=
han for=0D
+longer values.=0D
=0D
```suggestion=0D
field value. Disabling access to the dynamic table for a header field mig=
ht=0D
occur for shorter values more quickly or with higher probability than for=
 longer=0D
values.=0D
```=0D
=0D
> +values with low entropy.=0D
+=0D
+An encoder might also choose not to index values for header fields that =
are=0D
+considered to be highly valuable or sensitive to recovery, such as the C=
ookie or=0D
+Authorization header fields.=0D
+=0D
+On the contrary, an encoder might prefer indexing values for header fiel=
ds that=0D
+have little or no value if they were exposed. For instance, a User-Agent=
 header=0D
+field does not commonly vary between requests and is sent to any server.=
 In that=0D
+case, confirmation that a particular User-Agent value has been used prov=
ides=0D
+little value.=0D
+=0D
+Note that these criteria for deciding to use a never indexed literal=0D
+representation will evolve over time as new attacks are discovered.=0D
+=0D
+##. Static Huffman Encoding=0D
=0D
```suggestion=0D
## Static Huffman Encoding=0D
```=0D
=0D
> +On the contrary, an encoder might prefer indexing values for header fi=
elds that=0D
+have little or no value if they were exposed. For instance, a User-Agent=
 header=0D
+field does not commonly vary between requests and is sent to any server.=
 In that=0D
+case, confirmation that a particular User-Agent value has been used prov=
ides=0D
+little value.=0D
+=0D
+Note that these criteria for deciding to use a never indexed literal=0D
+representation will evolve over time as new attacks are discovered.=0D
+=0D
+##. Static Huffman Encoding=0D
+=0D
+There is no currently known attack against a static Huffman encoding. A =
study=0D
+has shown that using a static Huffman encoding table created an informat=
ion=0D
+leakage, however this same study concluded that an attacker could not ta=
ke=0D
+advantage of this information leakage to recover any meaningful amount o=
f=0D
+information (see [PETAL]).=0D
=0D
Want to point out that QPACK uses the same Huffman table as HPACK?=0D
=0D
> +designed to limit both the peak and state amounts of memory allocated =
by an=0D
+endpoint.=0D
=0D
```suggestion=0D
designed to limit both the peak and stable amounts of memory allocated by=
 an=0D
endpoint.=0D
```=0D
=0D
> +has shown that using a static Huffman encoding table created an inform=
ation=0D
+leakage, however this same study concluded that an attacker could not ta=
ke=0D
+advantage of this information leakage to recover any meaningful amount o=
f=0D
+information (see [PETAL]).=0D
+=0D
+## Memory Consumption=0D
+=0D
+An attacker can try to cause an endpoint to exhaust its memory. QPACK is=
=0D
+designed to limit both the peak and state amounts of memory allocated by=
 an=0D
+endpoint.=0D
+=0D
+The amount of memory used by the compressor is limited by the protocol u=
sing=0D
+QPACK through the definition of the maximum size of the dynamic table, a=
nd the=0D
+maximum number of blocking streams. In HTTP/3, these values are controll=
ed by=0D
+the decoder through the setting parameter QPACK_MAX_TABLE_CAPACITY and=0D=

+QPACK_BLOCKED_STREAMS, respectively (see Section=0D
=0D
```suggestion=0D
QPACK_BLOCKED_STREAMS, respectively (see=0D
```=0D
=0D
> +maximum number of blocking streams. In HTTP/3, these values are contro=
lled by=0D
+the decoder through the setting parameter QPACK_MAX_TABLE_CAPACITY and=0D=

+QPACK_BLOCKED_STREAMS, respectively (see Section=0D
+{{maximum-dynamic-table-capacity}} and {{blocked-streams}}). The limit o=
n the=0D
+size of the dynamic table takes into account both the size of the data s=
tored in=0D
+the dynamic table, plus a small allowance for overhead.  The limit on th=
e number=0D
+of blocked streams is only a proxy for the maximum amount of memory requ=
ired by=0D
+the decoder.  The actual maximum amount of memory will depend on how muc=
h memory=0D
+the decoder uses to track each blocked stream.=0D
+=0D
+A decoder can limit the amount of state memory used for the dynamic tabl=
e by=0D
+setting an appropriate value for the maximum size of the dynamic table. =
In=0D
+HTTP/3, this is realized by setting an appropriate value for the=0D
+QPACK_MAX_TABLE_CAPACITY parameter. An encoder can limit the amount of s=
tate=0D
+memory it uses by signaling lower dynamic table size than the decoder al=
lows=0D
+(see {{eviction}}).  A decoder can limit the amount of state memory used=
 for=0D
=0D
```suggestion=0D
(see {{eviction}}).=0D
=0D
A decoder can limit the amount of state memory used for=0D
```=0D
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<p></p>=0D
<p><b>@martinthomson</b> approved this pull request.</p>=0D
=0D
<p>This looks good.  But then I'm not impartial in this.</p>=0D
<p>An informative reference to HPACK might be wise.  Otherwise people mig=
ht get an unexplained sense of d=C3=A9j=C3=A0 vu.</p><hr>=0D
=0D
<p>In <a href=3D"https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3575#discussi=
on_r407805310">draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md</a>:</p>=0D
<pre style=3D'color:#555'>&gt; +=0D
+The compression context used to encode header fields can be probed by an=
=0D
+attacker who can both define header fields to be encoded and transmitted=
 and=0D
+observe the length of those fields once they are encoded. When an attack=
er can=0D
+do both, they can adaptively modify requests in order to confirm guesses=
 about=0D
+the dynamic table state. If a guess is compressed into a shorter length,=
 the=0D
+attacker can observe the encoded length and infer that the guess was cor=
rect.=0D
+=0D
+This is possible even over the Transport Layer Security Protocol (TLS, s=
ee=0D
+{{?RFC5246}}), because while TLS provides confidentiality protection for=
=0D
+content, it only provides a limited amount of protection for the length =
of that=0D
+content.=0D
+=0D
+Note:=0D
+=0D
+Padding schemes only provide limited protection against an attacker with=
 these=0D
</pre>=0D
=E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D
<pre style=3D"color: #555">-Padding schemes only provide limited protecti=
on against an attacker with these=0D
+: Padding schemes only provide limited protection against an attacker wi=
th these=0D
</pre>=0D
=0D
=0D
<hr>=0D
=0D
<p>In <a href=3D"https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3575#discussi=
on_r407806231">draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md</a>:</p>=0D
<pre style=3D'color:#555'>&gt; +=0D
+Users of HTTP that require confidentiality for header fields can use val=
ues with=0D
+entropy sufficient to make guessing infeasible. However, this is impract=
ical as=0D
+a general solution because it forces all users of HTTP to take steps to =
mitigate=0D
+attacks. It would impose new constraints on how HTTP is used.=0D
+=0D
+Rather than impose constraints on users of HTTP, an implementation of QP=
ACK can=0D
+instead constrain how compression is applied in order to limit the poten=
tial for=0D
+dynamic table probing.=0D
+=0D
+An ideal solution segregates access to the dynamic table based on the en=
tity=0D
+that is constructing header fields. Header field values that are added t=
o the=0D
+table are attributed to an entity, and only the entity that created a pa=
rticular=0D
+value can extract that value.=0D
+=0D
+To improve compression performance of tqhis option, certain entries migh=
t be tagged as being public. For example, a web browser might make the va=
lues of the Accept-Encoding header field available in all requests.=0D
</pre>=0D
=E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D
<pre style=3D"color: #555">-To improve compression performance of tqhis o=
ption, certain entries might be tagged as being public. For example, a we=
b browser might make the values of the Accept-Encoding header field avail=
able in all requests.=0D
+To improve compression performance of this option, certain entries might=
 be=0D
+tagged as being public. For example, a web browser might make the values=
 of the=0D
+Accept-Encoding header field available in all requests.=0D
</pre>=0D
=0D
=0D
<hr>=0D
=0D
<p>In <a href=3D"https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3575#discussi=
on_r407806354">draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md</a>:</p>=0D
<pre style=3D'color:#555'>&gt; +An ideal solution segregates access to th=
e dynamic table based on the entity=0D
+that is constructing header fields. Header field values that are added t=
o the=0D
+table are attributed to an entity, and only the entity that created a pa=
rticular=0D
+value can extract that value.=0D
+=0D
+To improve compression performance of tqhis option, certain entries migh=
t be tagged as being public. For example, a web browser might make the va=
lues of the Accept-Encoding header field available in all requests.=0D
+=0D
+An encoder without good knowledge of the provenance of header fields mig=
ht=0D
+instead introduce a penalty for a header field with many different value=
s, such=0D
+that a large number of attempts to guess a header field value results in=
 the=0D
+header field no more being compared to the dynamic table entries in futu=
re=0D
+messages, effectively preventing further guesses.=0D
+=0D
+Note:=0D
+=0D
+Simply removing entries corresponding to the header field from the dynam=
ic table=0D
</pre>=0D
=E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D
<pre style=3D"color: #555">-Simply removing entries corresponding to the =
header field from the dynamic table=0D
+: Simply removing entries corresponding to the header field from the dyn=
amic table=0D
</pre>=0D
=0D
=0D
<hr>=0D
=0D
<p>In <a href=3D"https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3575#discussi=
on_r407806619">draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md</a>:</p>=0D
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+=0D
+An encoder might also choose not to index values for header fields that =
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ookie or=0D
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+=0D
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+field does not commonly vary between requests and is sent to any server.=
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+little value.=0D
+=0D
+Note that these criteria for deciding to use a never indexed literal=0D
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+##. Static Huffman Encoding=0D
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indexing values for header fields that=0D
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+field does not commonly vary between requests and is sent to any server.=
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ides=0D
+little value.=0D
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+Note that these criteria for deciding to use a never indexed literal=0D
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+=0D
+There is no currently known attack against a static Huffman encoding. A =
study=0D
+has shown that using a static Huffman encoding table created an informat=
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+leakage, however this same study concluded that an attacker could not ta=
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> +this methodology, some of the entries may be inconsistent.  Notably,
+"content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8" appears twice with two different
+whitespace encodings (entries 52 and 54).

```suggestion
this methodology, some of the entries may be inconsistent.
```

It's probably enough to observe that there are inconsistencies that derive from the source data.

> @@ -1199,6 +1199,12 @@ are registered in the "HTTP/3 Error Code" registry established in {{HTTP3}}.
 
 # Static Table
 
+This table was generated by analyzing actual internet traffic in 2018 and
+manually crafting the table for optimal compression of common headers.  Due to

What does "manually crafting" mean?  I think that you mean manually removing obvious redundancies and (other stuff we/Mike did).

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@martinthomson commented on this pull request.

I couldn't see any problems, but I have some suggestions.

Thanks for doing the cleanup.

>  for header in headers:
-  staticIdx = staticTable.getIndex(header)
-  if staticIdx:
-    encodeIndexReference(streamBuffer, staticIdx)
+  staticIndex = staticTable.getIndex(header)

```suggestion
  staticIndex = staticTable.findIndex(header)
```

This is a search, right?

>      continue
 
-  dynamicIdx = dynamicTable.getIndex(header)
-  if !dynamicIdx:
+  dynamicIndex = dynamicTable.getIndex(header)

```suggestion
  dynamicIndex = dynamicTable.findIndex(header)
```

>      # No matching entry.  Either insert+index or encode literal
-    nameIdx = getNameIndex(header)
+
+    # getNameIndex attempts to find an index for this header's name.
+    # If one exists, it returns the name's (absolute) index and a
+    # boolean indicating which table has the name.  If the name
+    # can't be found, nameIndex is None
+    nameIndex, isStaticName = getNameIndex(header.name)

This is a little strange, as you are relying on functions on the tables to find the full entry, but you jump to a different approach for looking up the name.  I realize that two lookups are worse than one, but it's an odd stylistic jump, that's all.

```python
# An alternative might be to do the name lookup like this:
staticNameIndex = staticTable.findName(header.name)
if staticNameIndex is None:
    dynamicNameIndex = dynamicTable.findName(header.name)
if header.canIndex() and dynamicTable.canAdd(header):
    encodeInsert(encoderBuffer, staticNameIndex, dynamicNameIndex, header)
    dynamicIndex = dynamicTable.add(header)

    # For a bonus, continuing from the above, forget about the
    # newly inserted dynamic table entry if we are at the limit of blocked streams.
    if numBlockedStreams >= maxBlockedStreams:
        dynamicIndex = None
    else:
        addedBlockingEntry = True
        # Later, you can increase numBlockedStreams, but you only do that once.
```

>        dynamicTable.add(header)
-      dynamicIdx = dynamicTable.baseIndex
+      dynamicIndex = dynamicTable.getInsertCount()

I can't suggest here, but I think that you just want this:

```python
        dynamicIndex = dynamicTable.add(header)
```

Otherwise you are breaking encapsulation in a small way: relying on the insert count for getting the index of the thing you just added.

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<p>Thanks for doing the cleanup.</p><hr>=0D
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Odd, that was automatically generated by GitHub.  That comment was on a review of #3573.

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<p>Odd, that was automatically generated by GitHub.  That comment was on a review of <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="596964905" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3573" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3573/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3573">#3573</a>.</p>

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Sec 8.1. of the quic-tls draft states that, if an application protocol is not negotiated, endpoints MUST immediately terminate the connection with a no_application_protocol TLS alert (QUIC error code 0x178).

For additional security, some TLS implementations choose to hide the exact reason for a handshake failure, and only issue a handshake_failure alert instead. The QUIC layer obtaining the "true alert" may be difficult or impossible.

Maybe the requirement to send no_application_protocol should be a SHOULD instead.

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<p>Sec 8.1. of the quic-tls draft states that, if an application protocol is not negotiated, endpoints MUST immediately terminate the connection with a no_application_protocol TLS alert (QUIC error code 0x178).</p>
<p>For additional security, some TLS implementations choose to hide the exact reason for a handshake failure, and only issue a handshake_failure alert instead. The QUIC layer obtaining the "true alert" may be difficult or impossible.</p>
<p>Maybe the requirement to send no_application_protocol should be a SHOULD instead.</p>

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Fix reference to RFC5682


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Kramdown usage updates


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> +An endpoint SHOULD NOT initiate migration when a peer requests the use of a
+zero-length connection ID. If the peer routes incoming packets using the source
+address, migration might not be successful. If the peer routes incoming packets
+by assigning a unique destination address to the connection, which might be
+achieved using using the preferred_address transport parameter (see
+{{preferred-address}}), packets sent on different paths are likely to be
+linkable.

```suggestion
An endpoint SHOULD NOT initiate migration with a peer that uses a zero-length
connection ID, for two reasons. First, if the peer routes incoming packets using
the packets' source address, migration might not be successful. Second, if 
such a  peer routes incoming packets by assigning a unique destination address
to the connection, which can be achieved using using the preferred_address
transport parameter (see {{preferred-address}}), packets sent by this
endpoint over multiple paths are trivially linkable.
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lgtm modulo some nits

> +confirm guesses a character at a time, reducing an exponential-time attack into
+a linear-time attack.
+
+## Applicability to QPACK and HTTP
+
+QPACK mitigates but does not completely prevent attacks modeled on CRIME [CRIME]
+by forcing a guess to match an entire header field value, rather than individual
+characters. An attacker can only learn whether a guess is correct or not, so is
+reduced to a brute force guess for the header field values.
+
+The viability of recovering specific header field values therefore depends on
+the entropy of values. As a result, values with high entropy are unlikely to be
+recovered successfully. However, values with low entropy remain vulnerable.
+
+Attacks of this nature are possible any time that two mutually distrustful
+entities control requests or responses that are placed onto a single HTTP/2

```suggestion
entities control requests or responses that are placed onto a single HTTP/3
```

> +The amount of memory used by the compressor is limited by the protocol using
+QPACK through the definition of the maximum size of the dynamic table, and the
+maximum number of blocking streams. In HTTP/3, these values are controlled by
+the decoder through the setting parameter QPACK_MAX_TABLE_CAPACITY and
+QPACK_BLOCKED_STREAMS, respectively (see Section
+{{maximum-dynamic-table-capacity}} and {{blocked-streams}}). The limit on the
+size of the dynamic table takes into account both the size of the data stored in
+the dynamic table, plus a small allowance for overhead.  The limit on the number
+of blocked streams is only a proxy for the maximum amount of memory required by
+the decoder.  The actual maximum amount of memory will depend on how much memory
+the decoder uses to track each blocked stream.
+
+A decoder can limit the amount of state memory used for the dynamic table by
+setting an appropriate value for the maximum size of the dynamic table. In
+HTTP/3, this is realized by setting an appropriate value for the
+QPACK_MAX_TABLE_CAPACITY parameter. An encoder can limit the amount of state

nit: the doc is inconsistent about QPACK_MAX_TABLE_CAPACITY  vs SETTINGS_QPACK_MAX_TABLE_CAPACITY. I don't know what the answer is

> +QPACK through the definition of the maximum size of the dynamic table, and the
+maximum number of blocking streams. In HTTP/3, these values are controlled by
+the decoder through the setting parameter QPACK_MAX_TABLE_CAPACITY and
+QPACK_BLOCKED_STREAMS, respectively (see Section
+{{maximum-dynamic-table-capacity}} and {{blocked-streams}}). The limit on the
+size of the dynamic table takes into account both the size of the data stored in
+the dynamic table, plus a small allowance for overhead.  The limit on the number
+of blocked streams is only a proxy for the maximum amount of memory required by
+the decoder.  The actual maximum amount of memory will depend on how much memory
+the decoder uses to track each blocked stream.
+
+A decoder can limit the amount of state memory used for the dynamic table by
+setting an appropriate value for the maximum size of the dynamic table. In
+HTTP/3, this is realized by setting an appropriate value for the
+QPACK_MAX_TABLE_CAPACITY parameter. An encoder can limit the amount of state
+memory it uses by signaling lower dynamic table size than the decoder allows

```suggestion
memory it uses by signaling a lower dynamic table size than the decoder allows
```

> +{{maximum-dynamic-table-capacity}} and {{blocked-streams}}). The limit on the
+size of the dynamic table takes into account both the size of the data stored in
+the dynamic table, plus a small allowance for overhead.  The limit on the number
+of blocked streams is only a proxy for the maximum amount of memory required by
+the decoder.  The actual maximum amount of memory will depend on how much memory
+the decoder uses to track each blocked stream.
+
+A decoder can limit the amount of state memory used for the dynamic table by
+setting an appropriate value for the maximum size of the dynamic table. In
+HTTP/3, this is realized by setting an appropriate value for the
+QPACK_MAX_TABLE_CAPACITY parameter. An encoder can limit the amount of state
+memory it uses by signaling lower dynamic table size than the decoder allows
+(see {{eviction}}).  A decoder can limit the amount of state memory used for
+blocked streams by setting an appropriate value for the maximum number of
+blocked streams.  In HTTP/3, this is realized by setting an appropriate value
+for the QPACK_BLOCKED_STREAMS parameter.  An encoder can limit the amount of

nit: QPACK_BLOCKED_STREAMS  vs. SETTINGS_QPACK_BLOCKED_STREAMS

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  Branch: refs/heads/ianswett-adaptive-loss
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> @@ -420,8 +420,9 @@ The RECOMMENDED initial value for the packet reordering threshold
 less than 3, to keep in line with TCP {{?RFC5681}}.
 
 Some networks may exhibit higher degrees of reordering, causing a sender to
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+detect spurious losses.  Increasing reordering thresholds after losses
+are spuriously detected have proven useful in TCP, such	as TCP-NCR

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> @@ -1199,6 +1199,12 @@ are registered in the "HTTP/3 Error Code" registry established in {{HTTP3}}.
 
 # Static Table
 
+This table was generated by analyzing actual internet traffic in 2018 and
+manually crafting the table for optimal compression of common headers.  Due to

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3576#discussion_r408476458">draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1199,6 +1199,12 @@ are registered in the &quot;HTTP/3 Error Code&quot; registry established in {{HTTP3}}.
 
 # Static Table
 
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> +On the contrary, an encoder might prefer indexing values for header fields that
+have little or no value if they were exposed. For instance, a User-Agent header
+field does not commonly vary between requests and is sent to any server. In that
+case, confirmation that a particular User-Agent value has been used provides
+little value.
+
+Note that these criteria for deciding to use a never indexed literal
+representation will evolve over time as new attacks are discovered.
+
+##. Static Huffman Encoding
+
+There is no currently known attack against a static Huffman encoding. A study
+has shown that using a static Huffman encoding table created an information
+leakage, however this same study concluded that an attacker could not take
+advantage of this information leakage to recover any meaningful amount of
+information (see [PETAL]).

It's mentioned in the string literal section: 

> When Huffman encoding is enabled, the Huffman
table from Appendix B of [RFC7541] is used without modification.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3575#discussion_r408477752">draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +On the contrary, an encoder might prefer indexing values for header fields that
+have little or no value if they were exposed. For instance, a User-Agent header
+field does not commonly vary between requests and is sent to any server. In that
+case, confirmation that a particular User-Agent value has been used provides
+little value.
+
+Note that these criteria for deciding to use a never indexed literal
+representation will evolve over time as new attacks are discovered.
+
+##. Static Huffman Encoding
+
+There is no currently known attack against a static Huffman encoding. A study
+has shown that using a static Huffman encoding table created an information
+leakage, however this same study concluded that an attacker could not take
+advantage of this information leakage to recover any meaningful amount of
+information (see [PETAL]).
</pre>
<p>It's mentioned in the string literal section:</p>
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<p>When Huffman encoding is enabled, the Huffman<br>
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> +designed to limit both the peak and state amounts of memory allocated by an
+endpoint.

This error is in the HPACK RFC.  Is it worth an errata?

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3575#discussion_r408478326">draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +designed to limit both the peak and state amounts of memory allocated by an
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> +The amount of memory used by the compressor is limited by the protocol using
+QPACK through the definition of the maximum size of the dynamic table, and the
+maximum number of blocking streams. In HTTP/3, these values are controlled by
+the decoder through the setting parameter QPACK_MAX_TABLE_CAPACITY and
+QPACK_BLOCKED_STREAMS, respectively (see Section
+{{maximum-dynamic-table-capacity}} and {{blocked-streams}}). The limit on the
+size of the dynamic table takes into account both the size of the data stored in
+the dynamic table, plus a small allowance for overhead.  The limit on the number
+of blocked streams is only a proxy for the maximum amount of memory required by
+the decoder.  The actual maximum amount of memory will depend on how much memory
+the decoder uses to track each blocked stream.
+
+A decoder can limit the amount of state memory used for the dynamic table by
+setting an appropriate value for the maximum size of the dynamic table. In
+HTTP/3, this is realized by setting an appropriate value for the
+QPACK_MAX_TABLE_CAPACITY parameter. An encoder can limit the amount of state

The text seems to consistently use SETTINGS_ variants, but the table omits it.  I'll fix these to match the text, but SETTINGS_ seems redundant in the table.  I'll resolve the inconsistency in another PR.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3575#discussion_r408479540">draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +The amount of memory used by the compressor is limited by the protocol using
+QPACK through the definition of the maximum size of the dynamic table, and the
+maximum number of blocking streams. In HTTP/3, these values are controlled by
+the decoder through the setting parameter QPACK_MAX_TABLE_CAPACITY and
+QPACK_BLOCKED_STREAMS, respectively (see Section
+{{maximum-dynamic-table-capacity}} and {{blocked-streams}}). The limit on the
+size of the dynamic table takes into account both the size of the data stored in
+the dynamic table, plus a small allowance for overhead.  The limit on the number
+of blocked streams is only a proxy for the maximum amount of memory required by
+the decoder.  The actual maximum amount of memory will depend on how much memory
+the decoder uses to track each blocked stream.
+
+A decoder can limit the amount of state memory used for the dynamic table by
+setting an appropriate value for the maximum size of the dynamic table. In
+HTTP/3, this is realized by setting an appropriate value for the
+QPACK_MAX_TABLE_CAPACITY parameter. An encoder can limit the amount of state
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<p>The text seems to consistently use SETTINGS_ variants, but the table omits it.  I'll fix these to match the text, but SETTINGS_ seems redundant in the table.  I'll resolve the inconsistency in another PR.</p>

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> +The amount of memory used by the compressor is limited by the protocol using
+QPACK through the definition of the maximum size of the dynamic table, and the
+maximum number of blocking streams. In HTTP/3, these values are controlled by
+the decoder through the setting parameter QPACK_MAX_TABLE_CAPACITY and
+QPACK_BLOCKED_STREAMS, respectively (see Section
+{{maximum-dynamic-table-capacity}} and {{blocked-streams}}). The limit on the
+size of the dynamic table takes into account both the size of the data stored in
+the dynamic table, plus a small allowance for overhead.  The limit on the number
+of blocked streams is only a proxy for the maximum amount of memory required by
+the decoder.  The actual maximum amount of memory will depend on how much memory
+the decoder uses to track each blocked stream.
+
+A decoder can limit the amount of state memory used for the dynamic table by
+setting an appropriate value for the maximum size of the dynamic table. In
+HTTP/3, this is realized by setting an appropriate value for the
+QPACK_MAX_TABLE_CAPACITY parameter. An encoder can limit the amount of state

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3575#discussion_r408480000">draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +The amount of memory used by the compressor is limited by the protocol using
+QPACK through the definition of the maximum size of the dynamic table, and the
+maximum number of blocking streams. In HTTP/3, these values are controlled by
+the decoder through the setting parameter QPACK_MAX_TABLE_CAPACITY and
+QPACK_BLOCKED_STREAMS, respectively (see Section
+{{maximum-dynamic-table-capacity}} and {{blocked-streams}}). The limit on the
+size of the dynamic table takes into account both the size of the data stored in
+the dynamic table, plus a small allowance for overhead.  The limit on the number
+of blocked streams is only a proxy for the maximum amount of memory required by
+the decoder.  The actual maximum amount of memory will depend on how much memory
+the decoder uses to track each blocked stream.
+
+A decoder can limit the amount of state memory used for the dynamic table by
+setting an appropriate value for the maximum size of the dynamic table. In
+HTTP/3, this is realized by setting an appropriate value for the
+QPACK_MAX_TABLE_CAPACITY parameter. An encoder can limit the amount of state
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  Branch: refs/heads/qpack-security
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
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      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/aa8fed6e6ddc4114626550d1cf0bdd7b40a8c7dd
  Author: Alan Frindell <afrind@fb.com>
  Date:   2020-04-14 (Tue, 14 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md

  Log Message:
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  Fix lint


  Commit: 4c3256a0f07e838ae04aa16d2105f4f82869d0da
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4c3256a0f07e838ae04aa16d2105f4f82869d0da
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  Date:   2020-04-14 (Tue, 14 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md

  Log Message:
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@afrind pushed 2 commits.

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> +this methodology, some of the entries may be inconsistent.  Notably,
+"content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8" appears twice with two different
+whitespace encodings (entries 52 and 54).

I feel like we've gotten a couple questions about this one in particular, but I can remove it.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3576#discussion_r408480919">draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +this methodology, some of the entries may be inconsistent.  Notably,
+&quot;content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8&quot; appears twice with two different
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<p>I feel like we've gotten a couple questions about this one in particular, but I can remove it.</p>

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OBE, #3440 is the answer.

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<p>OBE, <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="561091342" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3440" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3440/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3440">#3440</a> is the answer.</p>

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@martinthomson approved this pull request.



> +detect spurious losses.  Increasing reordering thresholds after losses
+are spuriously detected have proven useful in TCP, such as TCP-NCR
+{{?RFC4653}}, and are expected to be equally useful in QUIC.

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detect spurious losses.  Increasing reordering thresholds after losses, as
recommended in TCP-NCR {{?RFC4653}}, have proven to be useful in TCP and are
expected to be equally useful in QUIC.
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> @@ -2246,6 +2246,14 @@ that packet numbers cannot be used to correlate activity.  This does not prevent
 other properties of packets, such as timing and size, from being used to
 correlate activity.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD NOT initiate migration with a peer that uses a zero-length
+connection ID, for two reasons. First, if the peer routes incoming packets using

I don't think the first reason makes sense here. If the server routes incoming packets using source addresses, then it should send the disable_migration transport parameter. That's true regardless of connection ID length. We shouldn't make clients worry about about how the server does its routing.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3563#discussion_r408507529">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -2246,6 +2246,14 @@ that packet numbers cannot be used to correlate activity.  This does not prevent
 other properties of packets, such as timing and size, from being used to
 correlate activity.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD NOT initiate migration with a peer that uses a zero-length
+connection ID, for two reasons. First, if the peer routes incoming packets using
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<p>I don't think the first reason makes sense here. If the server routes incoming packets using source addresses, then it should send the disable_migration transport parameter. That's true regardless of connection ID length. We shouldn't make clients worry about about how the server does its routing.</p>

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@afrind Thank you for your answer. Let's close this in favor of #3577.

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> +this methodology, some of the entries may be inconsistent.  Notably,
+"content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8" appears twice with two different
+whitespace encodings (entries 52 and 54).

I would like to support @martinthomson because `text/plain; charsert=utf-8-` does not appear *twice*. The other is `text/html`.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3576#discussion_r408514594">draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +this methodology, some of the entries may be inconsistent.  Notably,
+&quot;content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8&quot; appears twice with two different
+whitespace encodings (entries 52 and 54).
</pre>
<p>I would like to support <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/martinthomson/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/martinthomson">@martinthomson</a> because <code>text/plain; charsert=utf-8-</code> does not appear <em>twice</em>. The other is <code>text/html</code>.</p>

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This is probably fine as the reason is observable.  It is true that some TLS alerts are hidden, but that is generally because that leaks private information.  But here the information is public, or at least shared by client and server.

Is the concern that this is potentially sent in an Initial frame?  Because that shouldn't be necessary, or even possible.

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<p>This is probably fine as the reason is observable.  It is true that some TLS alerts are hidden, but that is generally because that leaks private information.  But here the information is public, or at least shared by client and server.</p>
<p>Is the concern that this is potentially sent in an Initial frame?  Because that shouldn't be necessary, or even possible.</p>

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> +designed to limit both the peak and state amounts of memory allocated by an
+endpoint.

I'll let you manage that :)  You can be the author of an RFC erratum.  The glory!

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3575#discussion_r408516069">draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +designed to limit both the peak and state amounts of memory allocated by an
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> @@ -2246,6 +2246,14 @@ that packet numbers cannot be used to correlate activity.  This does not prevent
 other properties of packets, such as timing and size, from being used to
 correlate activity.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD NOT initiate migration with a peer that uses a zero-length
+connection ID, for two reasons. First, if the peer routes incoming packets using

This is specifying the client reaction to the situation when disable_active_migration is not set, that's all.  Mostly the second reason applies here, as you are right that the server is responsible for that, but it doesn't mean that it is untrue.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3563#discussion_r408516738">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -2246,6 +2246,14 @@ that packet numbers cannot be used to correlate activity.  This does not prevent
 other properties of packets, such as timing and size, from being used to
 correlate activity.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD NOT initiate migration with a peer that uses a zero-length
+connection ID, for two reasons. First, if the peer routes incoming packets using
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Slight rewording

> +detect spurious losses.  Increasing reordering thresholds after losses
+are spuriously detected have proven useful in TCP, such	as TCP-NCR
+{{?RFC4653}}, and are expected to be equally useful in QUIC.

```suggestion
detect spurious losses. Increasing reordering thresholds after spurious
detection of losses can make the transport more robust to reordering,
as TCP-NCR {{?RFC4653}} does for TCP. Such mechanisms are
expected to make QUIC more robust to reordering as well.
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> +detect spurious losses.  Increasing reordering thresholds after losses
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never mind this -- I like @martinthomson's suggestion better.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3572#discussion_r408517232">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +detect spurious losses.  Increasing reordering thresholds after losses
+are spuriously detected have proven useful in TCP, such	as TCP-NCR
+{{?RFC4653}}, and are expected to be equally useful in QUIC.
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<p>never mind this -- I like <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/martinthomson/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/martinthomson">@martinthomson</a>'s suggestion better.</p>

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This pseudo code is much better! But I would like to support @martinthomson's comments, too.

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<p>This pseudo code is much better! But I would like to support <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/martinthomson/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/martinthomson">@martinthomson</a>'s comments, too.</p>

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> @@ -2246,6 +2246,14 @@ that packet numbers cannot be used to correlate activity.  This does not prevent
 other properties of packets, such as timing and size, from being used to
 correlate activity.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD NOT initiate migration with a peer that uses a zero-length
+connection ID, for two reasons. First, if the peer routes incoming packets using

I don't think the spec should encourage clients to build workarounds to broken servers that don't send the right transport parameters. If disable_migration isn't sent by the server, then the client needs to be able to safely assume that the server will try to make routing on this connection work across migrations.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3563#discussion_r408519183">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -2246,6 +2246,14 @@ that packet numbers cannot be used to correlate activity.  This does not prevent
 other properties of packets, such as timing and size, from being used to
 correlate activity.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD NOT initiate migration with a peer that uses a zero-length
+connection ID, for two reasons. First, if the peer routes incoming packets using
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> @@ -2246,6 +2246,14 @@ that packet numbers cannot be used to correlate activity.  This does not prevent
 other properties of packets, such as timing and size, from being used to
 correlate activity.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD NOT initiate migration with a peer that uses a zero-length
+connection ID, for two reasons. First, if the peer routes incoming packets using
+the packets' source address, migration might not be successful. Second, if
+such a  peer routes incoming packets by assigning a unique destination address

Tiny nit

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such a peer routes incoming packets by assigning a unique destination address
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> @@ -2246,6 +2246,14 @@ that packet numbers cannot be used to correlate activity.  This does not prevent
 other properties of packets, such as timing and size, from being used to
 correlate activity.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD NOT initiate migration with a peer that uses a zero-length
+connection ID, for two reasons. First, if the peer routes incoming packets using

These are both things that _might_ be the case in some situations, but also have situations where they might work. 

That said, it does seem like this first one is a bit different from the second one -- for the first one there's always going to be some risk that your packets don't get to the right place, hence the encouragement to probe the new path first. 

Yes, that could be a server that was supposed to set the TP, but even if it wasn't, having a zero length CID isn't really the thing that says "be careful here", and saying SHOULD NOT migrate in such a case seems a bit excessive. If we want to say "be careful, if someone screwed up their routing for whatever reason (which might correlate more with zero length CIDs) you might not hear anything back" then that's not unreasonable, but I think that's already kind of described in the whole path validation process -- you want to make sure the packets really got to the person with whom you've got a connection.

> @@ -2246,6 +2246,14 @@ that packet numbers cannot be used to correlate activity.  This does not prevent
 other properties of packets, such as timing and size, from being used to
 correlate activity.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD NOT initiate migration with a peer that uses a zero-length
+connection ID, for two reasons. First, if the peer routes incoming packets using
+the packets' source address, migration might not be successful. Second, if
+such a  peer routes incoming packets by assigning a unique destination address
+to the connection, which can be achieved using using the preferred_address
+transport parameter (see {{preferred-address}}), packets sent by this
+endpoint over multiple paths are trivially linkable.

In contrast to my comment on the first part, saying SHOULD NOT do trivially linkable things seems reasonable -- by default, don't, and if you've got some reason to believe that you don't care or can avoid that likability, then that's on you.

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> @@ -2246,6 +2246,14 @@ that packet numbers cannot be used to correlate activity.  This does not prevent
 other properties of packets, such as timing and size, from being used to
 correlate activity.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD NOT initiate migration with a peer that uses a zero-length
+connection ID, for two reasons. First, if the peer routes incoming packets using

What Eric said.  This alone doesn't really motivate the SHOULD NOT; it is just a reason that you might come to regret ignoring it; what matters is the other point.

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<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -2246,6 +2246,14 @@ that packet numbers cannot be used to correlate activity.  This does not prevent
 other properties of packets, such as timing and size, from being used to
 correlate activity.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD NOT initiate migration with a peer that uses a zero-length
+connection ID, for two reasons. First, if the peer routes incoming packets using
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> @@ -2246,6 +2246,14 @@ that packet numbers cannot be used to correlate activity.  This does not prevent
 other properties of packets, such as timing and size, from being used to
 correlate activity.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD NOT initiate migration with a peer that uses a zero-length
+connection ID, for two reasons. First, if the peer routes incoming packets using

@DavidSchinazi : I don't think the spec is encouraging building around broken behavior. The actions are the same at the client whether the rationale is #1 or #2. The rationale simply explains the SHOULD NOT, and is not a concern for the client. Can you perhaps suggest a text change to clarify what you would like to see instead?

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This explains what needs to be kept and why.  Specifically, you need to
keep ranges unless you have other means of ensuring that you don&#39;t
accept packets from those ranges again.  You also need to keep the
largest acknowledged so that you can get a packet number from subsequent
packets.

This also recommends that ACK frames include the largest acknowledged
always.  That is primarily to ensure that ECN works properly, and even
there, you only disable ECN if you get some weird reordering, so it&#39;s
probably not a big deal if you don&#39;t follow this recommendation.

The issue is marked design, but the resolution here is basically a restatement of other text.  I think we can run this through the design process, but it isn&#39;t really worth flagging this in a change log in my opinion.

Closes #3541.
Closes #3537.
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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3581

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  * More detail regarding dropping of ACK Ranges

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (17)

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<p>This explains what needs to be kept and why.  Specifically, you need to<br>
keep ranges unless you have other means of ensuring that you don't<br>
accept packets from those ranges again.  You also need to keep the<br>
largest acknowledged so that you can get a packet number from subsequent<br>
packets.</p>
<p>This also recommends that ACK frames include the largest acknowledged<br>
always.  That is primarily to ensure that ECN works properly, and even<br>
there, you only disable ECN if you get some weird reordering, so it's<br>
probably not a big deal if you don't follow this recommendation.</p>
<p>The issue is marked design, but the resolution here is basically a restatement of other text.  I think we can run this through the design process, but it isn't really worth flagging this in a change log in my opinion.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3541.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="585857945" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3541" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3541/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3541">#3541</a>.<br>
<span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes pull request #3537.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="585590185" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3537" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3537/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3537">#3537</a>.</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>More detail regarding dropping of ACK Ranges</li>
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<h4>File Changes</h4>
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    <strong>M</strong>
    <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3581/files#diff-db016291106766877c4921a79f8596e0">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>
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> @@ -2246,6 +2246,14 @@ that packet numbers cannot be used to correlate activity.  This does not prevent
 other properties of packets, such as timing and size, from being used to
 correlate activity.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD NOT initiate migration with a peer that uses a zero-length
+connection ID, for two reasons. First, if the peer routes incoming packets using

Here is a text proposal that addresses my concerns:

```
An endpoint SHOULD NOT initiate migration with a peer that uses a zero-length
connection ID, because traffic over the new path might be trivially linkable to
traffic over the old one. If the server is able to route packets with a
zero-length connection ID to the right connection, it means that the server is
using other information to demultiplex packets (for example, the server can
assign a unique destination address to the connection, by using the
preferred_address transport parameter; see {{preferred-address}}), and this
other information is not encrypted and can be used to link paths.
```

This provides the same normative guidance, but makes it clear to client implementors that the only motivation for this recommendation is linkability.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3563#discussion_r408556637">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -2246,6 +2246,14 @@ that packet numbers cannot be used to correlate activity.  This does not prevent
 other properties of packets, such as timing and size, from being used to
 correlate activity.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD NOT initiate migration with a peer that uses a zero-length
+connection ID, for two reasons. First, if the peer routes incoming packets using
</pre>
<p>Here is a text proposal that addresses my concerns:</p>
<pre><code>An endpoint SHOULD NOT initiate migration with a peer that uses a zero-length
connection ID, because traffic over the new path might be trivially linkable to
traffic over the old one. If the server is able to route packets with a
zero-length connection ID to the right connection, it means that the server is
using other information to demultiplex packets (for example, the server can
assign a unique destination address to the connection, by using the
preferred_address transport parameter; see {{preferred-address}}), and this
other information is not encrypted and can be used to link paths.
</code></pre>
<p>This provides the same normative guidance, but makes it clear to client implementors that the only motivation for this recommendation is linkability.</p>

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My hope was that the changes in #3354 would help with the editorial parts of the [resolution we agreed in Zurich](https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3353#issuecomment-582798337).  However, that seems to be stalled.  I am going to mark this as proposal ready and will open an editorial issue to track the remaining work on clarifying the text.

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<p>My hope was that the changes in <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="551168076" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3354" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3354/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3354">#3354</a> would help with the editorial parts of the <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3353#issuecomment-582798337" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3353/hovercard">resolution we agreed in Zurich</a>.  However, that seems to be stalled.  I am going to mark this as proposal ready and will open an editorial issue to track the remaining work on clarifying the text.</p>

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Suppose the following situation:

- Upon reception of client Initial, server sent Handshake(server_handshake#0) and Short(server_short#0) packets.
- server_short#0 was lost.
- client received server_handshake#0 and sent packet containing ClientFinished Handshake(client_handshake#0)
- client_handshake#0 was lost.
- server resent Handshake(server_handshake#1)
- client received server_handshake#1 and sent packet containing ACK only Handshake(client_handshake#1)
- server received client_handshake#1

At this point, server has still bytes_in_flight > 0 because it
has in-flight Short packet.  According to the current recovery
draft, OnLossDetectionTimeout instructs server to send Handshake
probe packet because handshake has not completed yet.  I'm not
sure what this packet is intended for. server has no in-flight
data for Handshake packet number space.  Client will send ACK for
it, but it does not progress any handshake state.


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<p>Suppose the following situation:</p>
<ul>
<li>Upon reception of client Initial, server sent Handshake(server_handshake#0) and Short(server_short#0) packets.</li>
<li>server_short#0 was lost.</li>
<li>client received server_handshake#0 and sent packet containing ClientFinished Handshake(client_handshake#0)</li>
<li>client_handshake#0 was lost.</li>
<li>server resent Handshake(server_handshake#1)</li>
<li>client received server_handshake#1 and sent packet containing ACK only Handshake(client_handshake#1)</li>
<li>server received client_handshake#1</li>
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<p>At this point, server has still bytes_in_flight &gt; 0 because it<br>
has in-flight Short packet.  According to the current recovery<br>
draft, OnLossDetectionTimeout instructs server to send Handshake<br>
probe packet because handshake has not completed yet.  I'm not<br>
sure what this packet is intended for. server has no in-flight<br>
data for Handshake packet number space.  Client will send ACK for<br>
it, but it does not progress any handshake state.</p>

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Presumably the server will be probing for server_short[0] here.  The handshake probe is recommended, but I agree that if the handshake is done, there is no need for it, but it isn't mandatory.

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<p>Presumably the server will be probing for server_short[0] here.  The handshake probe is recommended, but I agree that if the handshake is done, there is no need for it, but it isn't mandatory.</p>

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The packet number space that endpoint should send probe packet is
determined by GetEarliestTimeAndSpace function.  It chooses
packet number space where the latest packet has earliest dispatch
time.

Suppose client sent 2 packets: Handshake(client_handshake#0) and
Short packet(client_short#0).

Somehow it didn't get any ACK for them, on first PTO timeout, it
resent Handshake (client_handshake#1).  This makes Short packet
number space becomes the earliest packet number space and next
PTO timeout, client sent Short probe packet assuming that
IsHandshakeCompleted() means handshake completion not handshake
confirmation.  I think it should instead send Handshake probe
packet in this case.  We have unified PTO timer and sending probe
in alternate manner is a bit strange.


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<p>The packet number space that endpoint should send probe packet is<br>
determined by GetEarliestTimeAndSpace function.  It chooses<br>
packet number space where the latest packet has earliest dispatch<br>
time.</p>
<p>Suppose client sent 2 packets: Handshake(client_handshake#0) and<br>
Short packet(client_short#0).</p>
<p>Somehow it didn't get any ACK for them, on first PTO timeout, it<br>
resent Handshake (client_handshake#1).  This makes Short packet<br>
number space becomes the earliest packet number space and next<br>
PTO timeout, client sent Short probe packet assuming that<br>
IsHandshakeCompleted() means handshake completion not handshake<br>
confirmation.  I think it should instead send Handshake probe<br>
packet in this case.  We have unified PTO timer and sending probe<br>
in alternate manner is a bit strange.</p>

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Use now() instead of setting the PTO based on an invalid time(0) when the PTO is armed for anti-deadlock and there are no bytes in flight.

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For describing packet and frame layouts.  Prototype in the transport
doc only.

Not sure if this is worth pursuing, but it closes #3115 if it does.


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This is based on #3573 and is targeted for that.  Careful.

I did a bit of language tweaking to the 2&lt;sup&gt;60&lt;/sup&gt; limits on the MAX_STREAMS frame to make it a little more useful.  The text there was a little old.

Closes #3579.
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  * Consistent naming for _BLOCKED fields

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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (27)

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<p>This is based on <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="596964905" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3573" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3573/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3573">#3573</a> and is targeted for that.  Careful.</p>
<p>I did a bit of language tweaking to the 2<sup>60</sup> limits on the MAX_STREAMS frame to make it a little more useful.  The text there was a little old.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3579.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="599220210" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3579" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3579/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3579">#3579</a>.</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>Consistent naming for _BLOCKED fields</li>
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I agree that this is weird.  It's worse than you describe because the exponent on the intervals between Handshake packets is 4, not 2.  We send probes (just a PING) when probing the short packet as recommended, so it isn't too, too bad, but it is also not that great.

I looked into this in mozilla/neqo#448 if people want more context.  I didn't have the time to think through what the ideal solution might be.

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<p>I agree that this is weird.  It's worse than you describe because the exponent on the intervals between Handshake packets is 4, not 2.  We send probes (just a PING) when probing the short packet as recommended, so it isn't too, too bad, but it is also not that great.</p>
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As discussed in neqo issue thread, which packet number spaces should be chosen depends on the situation.
ngtcp2 sends Initial and Handshake probes at the same time if server sees they are in-flight when PTO timer fires so that it can coalesce them and also handle the situation that client might drop Initial key.  This is a deviation from the draft-27.
For the particular situation that this issue describes, I think client can just send Handshake probe packet.  If server still has Handshake key, it will respond with Handshake packet.  If not, then it will send HANDSHAKE_DONE frame in Short packet, and client confirms handshake completion.
Sending Short probe with Handshake packet might reduce the time before client reacts the lost Short packet, but might be discarded if server does not have appropriate key.

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<p>As discussed in neqo issue thread, which packet number spaces should be chosen depends on the situation.<br>
ngtcp2 sends Initial and Handshake probes at the same time if server sees they are in-flight when PTO timer fires so that it can coalesce them and also handle the situation that client might drop Initial key.  This is a deviation from the draft-27.<br>
For the particular situation that this issue describes, I think client can just send Handshake probe packet.  If server still has Handshake key, it will respond with Handshake packet.  If not, then it will send HANDSHAKE_DONE frame in Short packet, and client confirms handshake completion.<br>
Sending Short probe with Handshake packet might reduce the time before client reacts the lost Short packet, but might be discarded if server does not have appropriate key.</p>

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I'm not concerned with the security implications, or lack thereof, of sending no_application_protocol. My main concern is that we, and other implementations, will be non-compliant with the draft because we have no choice but to send a general handshake_failure alert in this case. Our TLS implementation doesn't allow us to choose which alerts are converted to handshake_failure before being reported to QUIC; it's all or nothing.

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<p>I'm not concerned with the security implications, or lack thereof, of sending no_application_protocol. My main concern is that we, and other implementations, will be non-compliant with the draft because we have no choice but to send a general handshake_failure alert in this case. Our TLS implementation doesn't allow us to choose which alerts are converted to handshake_failure before being reported to QUIC; it's all or nothing.</p>

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@LPardue requested changes on this pull request.

Overall I like this. The terser presentation allows you to define the full H3 frame, which I really like. Strictly, those figures now present  the whole frame so I've made the suggestion to drop the `Payload` qualifier.

Also see comment about the 0 or more SETTINGS parameters, which needs a fixup.

> @@ -1229,11 +1220,11 @@ frame is received on a control stream, the recipient MUST respond with a
 connection error ({{errors}}) of type H3_FRAME_UNEXPECTED.
 
 ~~~~~~~~~~ drawing
- 0                   1                   2                   3
- 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
-|                         Payload (*)                         ...
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+DATA Frame {
+  Type (i) = 0x0,
+  Length (i),
+  Data (..),
+}
 ~~~~~~~~~~
 {: #fig-data title="DATA Frame Payload"}

```suggestion
{: #fig-data title="DATA Frame"}
```

> @@ -1243,11 +1234,11 @@ The HEADERS frame (type=0x1) is used to carry an HTTP field section, encoded
 using QPACK. See [QPACK] for more details.
 
 ~~~~~~~~~~  drawing
- 0                   1                   2                   3
- 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
-|                   Encoded Field Section (*)                 ...
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+HEADERS Frame {
+  Type (i) = 0x1,
+  Length (i),
+  Encoded Field Section (..),
+}
 ~~~~~~~~~~
 {: #fig-headers title="HEADERS Frame Payload"}

```suggestion
{: #fig-headers title="HEADERS Frame"}
```

> @@ -1284,11 +1275,11 @@ frame on a stream other than the control stream MUST be treated as a connection
 error of type H3_FRAME_UNEXPECTED.
 
 ~~~~~~~~~~  drawing
- 0                   1                   2                   3
- 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
-|                          Push ID (i)                        ...
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+CANCEL_PUSH Frame {
+  Type (i) = 0x3,
+  Length (i),
+  Push ID (..),
+}
 ~~~~~~~~~~
 {: #fig-cancel-push title="CANCEL_PUSH Frame Payload"}

```suggestion
{: #fig-cancel-push title="CANCEL_PUSH Frame"}
```

> +SETTINGS Frame {
+  Type (i) = 0x4,
+  Length (i),
+  Identifier (i),
+  Value (i),
+}

This is wrong, sorry. The text discusses that the frame contains 0 or more parameters and the old drawing presents the format of the parameter, not the frame. I think what you want to do is present  the pair of (Identifier, Value) with cardinality, and then update the fig title to sat "SETTINGS Frame".

> @@ -1436,13 +1426,12 @@ The PUSH_PROMISE frame (type=0x5) is used to carry a promised request header
 field section from server to client on a request stream, as in HTTP/2.
 
 ~~~~~~~~~~  drawing
- 0                   1                   2                   3
- 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
-|                          Push ID (i)                        ...
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
-|                   Encoded Field Section (*)                 ...
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+PUSH_PROMISE Frame {
+  Type (i) = 0x5,
+  Length (i),
+  Push ID (i),
+  Encoded Field Section (..),
+}
 ~~~~~~~~~~
 {: #fig-push-promise title="PUSH_PROMISE Frame Payload"}

```suggestion
{: #fig-push-promise title="PUSH_PROMISE Frame"}
```

> @@ -1496,11 +1485,11 @@ requests and pushes.  This enables administrative actions, like server
 maintenance.  GOAWAY by itself does not close a connection.
 
 ~~~~~~~~~~  drawing
- 0                   1                   2                   3
- 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
-|                  Stream ID/Push ID (i)                      ...
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
+GOAWAY Frame {
+  Type (i) = 0x7,
+  Length (i),
+  Stream ID/Push ID (..),
+}
 ~~~~~~~~~~
 {: #fig-goaway title="GOAWAY Frame Payload"}

```suggestion
{: #fig-goaway title="GOAWAY Frame"}
```

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<p><b>@LPardue</b> requested changes on this pull request.</p>=0D
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de> qualifier.</p>=0D
<p>Also see comment about the 0 or more SETTINGS parameters, which needs =
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> @@ -1199,6 +1199,12 @@ are registered in the "HTTP/3 Error Code" registry established in {{HTTP3}}.
 
 # Static Table
 
+This table was generated by analyzing actual internet traffic in 2018 and
+manually crafting the table for optimal compression of common headers.  Due to

We started from an automated query for data, then:

- Removed vendor-specific artifacts and anti-patterns as best we could
- Sorted the entries into the three tranches described in the comment; the sizes are dictated by the QPACK instruction space, but the selection of which things go in each tranche is a mix of data and judgement.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3576#discussion_r409049584">draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1199,6 +1199,12 @@ are registered in the &quot;HTTP/3 Error Code&quot; registry established in {{HTTP3}}.
 
 # Static Table
 
+This table was generated by analyzing actual internet traffic in 2018 and
+manually crafting the table for optimal compression of common headers.  Due to
</pre>
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<ul>
<li>Removed vendor-specific artifacts and anti-patterns as best we could</li>
<li>Sorted the entries into the three tranches described in the comment; the sizes are dictated by the QPACK instruction space, but the selection of which things go in each tranche is a mix of data and judgement.</li>
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> +The amount of memory used by the compressor is limited by the protocol using
+QPACK through the definition of the maximum size of the dynamic table, and the
+maximum number of blocking streams. In HTTP/3, these values are controlled by
+the decoder through the setting parameter QPACK_MAX_TABLE_CAPACITY and
+QPACK_BLOCKED_STREAMS, respectively (see Section
+{{maximum-dynamic-table-capacity}} and {{blocked-streams}}). The limit on the
+size of the dynamic table takes into account both the size of the data stored in
+the dynamic table, plus a small allowance for overhead.  The limit on the number
+of blocked streams is only a proxy for the maximum amount of memory required by
+the decoder.  The actual maximum amount of memory will depend on how much memory
+the decoder uses to track each blocked stream.
+
+A decoder can limit the amount of state memory used for the dynamic table by
+setting an appropriate value for the maximum size of the dynamic table. In
+HTTP/3, this is realized by setting an appropriate value for the
+QPACK_MAX_TABLE_CAPACITY parameter. An encoder can limit the amount of state

It's an (unstated) norm to omit SETTINGS_ in cases where it's already blatantly obvious that we're discussing a setting.  You'll find similar variance in 7540, 7541, and HTTP/3.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3575#discussion_r409054517">draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +The amount of memory used by the compressor is limited by the protocol using
+QPACK through the definition of the maximum size of the dynamic table, and the
+maximum number of blocking streams. In HTTP/3, these values are controlled by
+the decoder through the setting parameter QPACK_MAX_TABLE_CAPACITY and
+QPACK_BLOCKED_STREAMS, respectively (see Section
+{{maximum-dynamic-table-capacity}} and {{blocked-streams}}). The limit on the
+size of the dynamic table takes into account both the size of the data stored in
+the dynamic table, plus a small allowance for overhead.  The limit on the number
+of blocked streams is only a proxy for the maximum amount of memory required by
+the decoder.  The actual maximum amount of memory will depend on how much memory
+the decoder uses to track each blocked stream.
+
+A decoder can limit the amount of state memory used for the dynamic table by
+setting an appropriate value for the maximum size of the dynamic table. In
+HTTP/3, this is realized by setting an appropriate value for the
+QPACK_MAX_TABLE_CAPACITY parameter. An encoder can limit the amount of state
</pre>
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I'm not sure that I'm following this: you are sending a QUIC CONNECTION_CLOSE frame, not a TLS alert.  Our stack makes the appropriate CONNECTION_CLOSE directly without talking to TLS.

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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-04-16 (Thu, 16 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
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I'm referring to the error code field in the QUIC CONNECTION_CLOSE frame. In the case of a crypto error, the QUIC error code for handshake failure is 0x128. The QUIC error code for no application protocol is 0x178. The draft mandates that we send 0x178.

In our stack, TLS does the ALPN parsing and if there is a TLS alert, QUIC converts it to a CONNECTION_CLOSE with the reported error code; TLS alert 0x28 for handshake_failure, 0x78 for no_application_protocol. Due to TLS converting all alerts during the handshake to handshake_failure, we end up sending a QUIC CONNECTION_CLOSE frame with 0x128, instead of 0x178.

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<p>I'm referring to the error code field in the QUIC CONNECTION_CLOSE frame. In the case of a crypto error, the QUIC error code for handshake failure is 0x128. The QUIC error code for no application protocol is 0x178. The draft mandates that we send 0x178.</p>
<p>In our stack, TLS does the ALPN parsing and if there is a TLS alert, QUIC converts it to a CONNECTION_CLOSE with the reported error code; TLS alert 0x28 for handshake_failure, 0x78 for no_application_protocol. Due to TLS converting all alerts during the handshake to handshake_failure, we end up sending a QUIC CONNECTION_CLOSE frame with 0x128, instead of 0x178.</p>

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I believe what you are asking is already catered for. The requirement for the failure case is MUST close, and the most appropriate error code is defined.

[Draft 27 Section 11 says](https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-transport-27#section-11)
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   The most appropriate error code (Section 20) SHOULD be included in
   the frame that signals the error.  Where this specification
   identifies error conditions, it also identifies the error code that
   is used; though these are worded as requirements, different
   implementation strategies might lead to different errors being
   reported.  In particular, an endpoint MAY use any applicable error
   code when it detects an error condition; a generic error code (such
   as PROTOCOL_VIOLATION or INTERNAL_ERROR) can always be used in place
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<p>I believe what you are asking is already catered for. The requirement for the failure case is MUST close, and the most appropriate error code is defined.</p>
<p><a href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-transport-27#section-11" rel="nofollow">Draft 27 Section 11 says</a></p>
<pre><code>   The most appropriate error code (Section 20) SHOULD be included in
   the frame that signals the error.  Where this specification
   identifies error conditions, it also identifies the error code that
   is used; though these are worded as requirements, different
   implementation strategies might lead to different errors being
   reported.  In particular, an endpoint MAY use any applicable error
   code when it detects an error condition; a generic error code (such
   as PROTOCOL_VIOLATION or INTERNAL_ERROR) can always be used in place
   of specific error codes.
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To follow up with a way to resolve this. I don't believe we need to change any normative language and so this is not a design issue. I'll leave it to editors' discretion on whether there is any editorial work required to address the original concern.

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This is a small enough change. However, there is still a bar for those, and the current level of discussion makes me believe we should close this with no action?

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<p>This is a small enough change. However, there is still a bar for those, and the current level of discussion makes me believe we should close this with no action?</p>

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Currently there is text saying:
"To reduce the chances of misinterpreting congestive loss as packets dropped by a
 faulty network element, an endpoint could set the ECT(0) codepoint in the first
 ten outgoing packets on a path, or for a period of three RTTs, whichever occurs
 first."
At the interim there was a discussion that today it is likely save to just make all packets with ECT as the risk of black-holing is not measurable anymore. PR #3454 proposes a text change to provide more background. In the comments there is also a link to a measurement which could be added if desired.

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<p>Currently there is text saying:<br>
"To reduce the chances of misinterpreting congestive loss as packets dropped by a<br>
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ten outgoing packets on a path, or for a period of three RTTs, whichever occurs<br>
first."<br>
At the interim there was a discussion that today it is likely save to just make all packets with ECT as the risk of black-holing is not measurable anymore. PR <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="564743456" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3454" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3454/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3454">#3454</a> proposes a text change to provide more background. In the comments there is also a link to a measurement which could be added if desired.</p>

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@MikeBishop approved this pull request.

All looks good (and familiar); some minor nits.

> +used.  If HPACK (see Section 6.2.3 of [RFC7541]) is used for re-encoding, the
+never indexed literal representation MUST be used.

```suggestion
used.  If HPACK is used for re-encoding, the never indexed literal
representation (see Section 6.2.3 of [RFC7541]) MUST be used.
```

> +
+Implementations can also choose to protect sensitive header fields by not
+compressing them and instead encoding their value as literals.
+
+Refusing to insert a header field into the dynamic table is only
+effective if doing so is avoided on all hops. The never indexed literal bit (see
+{{literal-name-reference}}) can be used to signal to intermediaries that a
+particular value was intentionally sent as a literal.
+
+An intermediary MUST NOT re-encode a value that uses a literal representation
+with the 'N' bit set with another representation that would index it. If QPACK
+is used for re-encoding, a literal representation with the 'N' bit set MUST be
+used.  If HPACK (see Section 6.2.3 of [RFC7541]) is used for re-encoding, the
+never indexed literal representation MUST be used.
+
+The choice to use a never indexed literal representation for a header field

```suggestion
The choice to mark that a header field should never be indexed
```

> +the decoder through the setting parameter SETTINGS_QPACK_MAX_TABLE_CAPACITY and
+SETTINGS_QPACK_BLOCKED_STREAMS, respectively (see

```suggestion
the decoder through the settings parameters SETTINGS_QPACK_MAX_TABLE_CAPACITY
and SETTINGS_QPACK_BLOCKED_STREAMS, respectively (see
```

> +
+## Static Huffman Encoding
+
+There is no currently known attack against a static Huffman encoding. A study
+has shown that using a static Huffman encoding table created an information
+leakage, however this same study concluded that an attacker could not take
+advantage of this information leakage to recover any meaningful amount of
+information (see [PETAL]).
+
+## Memory Consumption
+
+An attacker can try to cause an endpoint to exhaust its memory. QPACK is
+designed to limit both the peak and stable amounts of memory allocated by an
+endpoint.
+
+The amount of memory used by the compressor is limited by the protocol using

```suggestion
The amount of memory used by the encoder is limited by the protocol using
```

> +SETTINGS_QPACK_MAX_TABLE_CAPACITY parameter. An encoder can limit the amount of
+state memory it uses by signaling a lower dynamic table size than the decoder
+allows (see {{eviction}}).
+
+A decoder can limit the amount of state memory used for blocked streams by
+setting an appropriate value for the maximum number of blocked streams.  In
+HTTP/3, this is realized by setting an appropriate value for the
+QPACK_BLOCKED_STREAMS parameter.  An encoder can limit the amount of state
+memory by only using as many blocked streams as it wishes to support; no
+signaling to the decoder is requred.
+
+The amount of temporary memory consumed by an encoder or decoder can be limited
+by processing header fields sequentially. A decoder implementation does not need
+to retain a complete list of header fields while decoding a header block. An
+encoder implementation does not need to retain a complete list of header fields
+if while encoding a header block if it is using a single-pass encoder.  Note

```suggestion
while encoding a header block if it is using a single-pass algorithm.  Note
```

> @@ -1155,6 +1369,19 @@ to an excess of unsent data might include limiting the ability of the peer to
 open new streams, reading only from the encoder stream, or closing the
 connection.
 
+
+## Implementation Limits
+
+An implementation of QPACK needs to ensure that large values for integers, long
+encoding for integers, or long string literals do not create security
+weaknesses.
+
+An implementation has to set a limit for the values it accepts for integers, as
+well as for the encoded length (see {{prefixed-integers}}). In the same way, it
+has to set a limit to the length it accepts for string literals (see
+{{string-literals}}).

I believe we have a minimum size which MUST be supported; should that be mentioned here?

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+particular value was intentionally sent as a literal.=0D
+=0D
+An intermediary MUST NOT re-encode a value that uses a literal represent=
ation=0D
+with the &#39;N&#39; bit set with another representation that would inde=
x it. If QPACK=0D
+is used for re-encoding, a literal representation with the &#39;N&#39; b=
it set MUST be=0D
+used.  If HPACK (see Section 6.2.3 of [RFC7541]) is used for re-encoding=
, the=0D
+never indexed literal representation MUST be used.=0D
+=0D
+The choice to use a never indexed literal representation for a header fi=
eld=0D
</pre>=0D
=E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D
<pre style=3D"color: #555">-The choice to use a never indexed literal rep=
resentation for a header field=0D
+The choice to mark that a header field should never be indexed=0D
</pre>=0D
=0D
=0D
<hr>=0D
=0D
<p>In <a href=3D"https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3575#discussi=
on_r409822564">draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md</a>:</p>=0D
<pre style=3D'color:#555'>&gt; +the decoder through the setting parameter=
 SETTINGS_QPACK_MAX_TABLE_CAPACITY and=0D
+SETTINGS_QPACK_BLOCKED_STREAMS, respectively (see=0D
</pre>=0D
=E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D
<pre style=3D"color: #555">-the decoder through the setting parameter SET=
TINGS_QPACK_MAX_TABLE_CAPACITY and=0D
-SETTINGS_QPACK_BLOCKED_STREAMS, respectively (see=0D
+the decoder through the settings parameters SETTINGS_QPACK_MAX_TABLE_CAP=
ACITY=0D
+and SETTINGS_QPACK_BLOCKED_STREAMS, respectively (see=0D
</pre>=0D
=0D
=0D
<hr>=0D
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on_r409824370">draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md</a>:</p>=0D
<pre style=3D'color:#555'>&gt; +=0D
+## Static Huffman Encoding=0D
+=0D
+There is no currently known attack against a static Huffman encoding. A =
study=0D
+has shown that using a static Huffman encoding table created an informat=
ion=0D
+leakage, however this same study concluded that an attacker could not ta=
ke=0D
+advantage of this information leakage to recover any meaningful amount o=
f=0D
+information (see [PETAL]).=0D
+=0D
+## Memory Consumption=0D
+=0D
+An attacker can try to cause an endpoint to exhaust its memory. QPACK is=
=0D
+designed to limit both the peak and stable amounts of memory allocated b=
y an=0D
+endpoint.=0D
+=0D
+The amount of memory used by the compressor is limited by the protocol u=
sing=0D
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=E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D
<pre style=3D"color: #555">-The amount of memory used by the compressor i=
s limited by the protocol using=0D
+The amount of memory used by the encoder is limited by the protocol usin=
g=0D
</pre>=0D
=0D
=0D
<hr>=0D
=0D
<p>In <a href=3D"https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3575#discussi=
on_r409826760">draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md</a>:</p>=0D
<pre style=3D'color:#555'>&gt; +SETTINGS_QPACK_MAX_TABLE_CAPACITY paramet=
er. An encoder can limit the amount of=0D
+state memory it uses by signaling a lower dynamic table size than the de=
coder=0D
+allows (see {{eviction}}).=0D
+=0D
+A decoder can limit the amount of state memory used for blocked streams =
by=0D
+setting an appropriate value for the maximum number of blocked streams. =
 In=0D
+HTTP/3, this is realized by setting an appropriate value for the=0D
+QPACK_BLOCKED_STREAMS parameter.  An encoder can limit the amount of sta=
te=0D
+memory by only using as many blocked streams as it wishes to support; no=
=0D
+signaling to the decoder is requred.=0D
+=0D
+The amount of temporary memory consumed by an encoder or decoder can be =
limited=0D
+by processing header fields sequentially. A decoder implementation does =
not need=0D
+to retain a complete list of header fields while decoding a header block=
. An=0D
+encoder implementation does not need to retain a complete list of header=
 fields=0D
+if while encoding a header block if it is using a single-pass encoder.  =
Note=0D
</pre>=0D
=E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D
<pre style=3D"color: #555">-if while encoding a header block if it is usi=
ng a single-pass encoder.  Note=0D
+while encoding a header block if it is using a single-pass algorithm.  N=
ote=0D
</pre>=0D
=0D
=0D
<hr>=0D
=0D
<p>In <a href=3D"https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3575#discussi=
on_r409827721">draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md</a>:</p>=0D
<pre style=3D'color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1155,6 +1369,19 @@ to an excess of uns=
ent data might include limiting the ability of the peer to=0D
 open new streams, reading only from the encoder stream, or closing the=0D=

 connection.=0D
 =0D
+=0D
+## Implementation Limits=0D
+=0D
+An implementation of QPACK needs to ensure that large values for integer=
s, long=0D
+encoding for integers, or long string literals do not create security=0D=

+weaknesses.=0D
+=0D
+An implementation has to set a limit for the values it accepts for integ=
ers, as=0D
+well as for the encoded length (see {{prefixed-integers}}). In the same =
way, it=0D
+has to set a limit to the length it accepts for string literals (see=0D
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@MikeBishop requested changes on this pull request.

Looks good.  Your build errors are due to line-length; I think this should fix them.

> +    # getNameIndex attempts to find an index for this header's name.
+    # If one exists, it returns the name's (absolute) index and a

```suggestion
    # getNameIndex searches for this header's name in the table.
    # If an entry matches, it returns the (absolute) index and a
```

>      if shouldIndex(header) and dynamicTable.canIndex(header):
-      encodeLiteralWithIncrementalIndex(controlBuffer, nameIdx,
-                                        header)
+      encodeInsert(encoderBuffer, nameIndex, isStaticName, header)

```suggestion
    encodeInsert(
        encoderBuffer, nameIndex, isStaticName, header
    )
```

> +  wireRIC =
+    (requiredInsertCount % (2 * getMaxEntries(maxTableCapacity))) + 1;

```suggestion
  wireRIC = (
    requiredInsertCount
    % (2 * getMaxEntries(maxTableCapacity))
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<p>Looks good.  Your build errors are due to line-length; I think this sh=
ould fix them.</p><hr>=0D
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on_r409831259">draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md</a>:</p>=0D
<pre style=3D'color:#555'>&gt; +    # getNameIndex attempts to find an in=
dex for this header&#39;s name.=0D
+    # If one exists, it returns the name&#39;s (absolute) index and a=0D=

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+    # getNameIndex searches for this header's name in the table.=0D
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Excellent! Can't wait for this to land. (Looks like I need to finish reading my WG email :>)

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I'm still stuck on how the TLS code needs to be involved in this.  Our code generates the alert, but does so [in QUIC-specific code](https://github.com/mozilla/neqo/blob/aa63c20cfb6afa5cebe678726215c98bd8122001/neqo-transport/src/connection.rs#L1765-L1769).

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<p>I'm still stuck on how the TLS code needs to be involved in this.  Our code generates the alert, but does so <a href="https://github.com/mozilla/neqo/blob/aa63c20cfb6afa5cebe678726215c98bd8122001/neqo-transport/src/connection.rs#L1765-L1769">in QUIC-specific code</a>.</p>

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@martinthomson I think the problem is due to how certain implementation handles ALPN.

In case of H2O, we handle ALPN in our _on_client_hello_ callback, that is invoked by picotls (https://github.com/h2o/h2o/blob/master/src/main.c#L356). At this point, the call stack is H2O (application) -> quicly (QUIC stack) -> picotls (TLS stack) -> _on_client_hello_ (application callback).

In this type of design, if the TLS stack is going to determine the error code (or change the error code returned from a callback), then it would be impossible (or difficult) for the QUIC stack to send the appropriate code.

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<p>In case of H2O, we handle ALPN in our <em>on_client_hello</em> callback, that is invoked by picotls (<a href="https://github.com/h2o/h2o/blob/master/src/main.c#L356">https://github.com/h2o/h2o/blob/master/src/main.c#L356</a>). At this point, the call stack is H2O (application) -&gt; quicly (QUIC stack) -&gt; picotls (TLS stack) -&gt; <em>on_client_hello</em> (application callback).</p>
<p>In this type of design, if the TLS stack is going to determine the error code (or change the error code returned from a callback), then it would be impossible (or difficult) for the QUIC stack to send the appropriate code.</p>

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I see.  I hope that the application isn't the callback code, but that quicly is involved in this somehow; otherwise, you have just made H2O responsible for fulfilling QUIC requirements that you might assume quicly would be responsible for.

In general, I would assume that you have access to QUIC transport state in your callback from the TLS stack.  Let's say that you choke on the ALPN.  You cause TLS to issue a generic alert (which is fine, as Lucas points out).  At some later point that alert is going to hit QUIC code again so that it can be translated to a QUIC alert.  If you can save the reason from the callback (presumably you need this capability to save transport parameters) then you can construct the right message.

Of course, that's complicated.  The generic alert is fine.

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<p>I see.  I hope that the application isn't the callback code, but that quicly is involved in this somehow; otherwise, you have just made H2O responsible for fulfilling QUIC requirements that you might assume quicly would be responsible for.</p>
<p>In general, I would assume that you have access to QUIC transport state in your callback from the TLS stack.  Let's say that you choke on the ALPN.  You cause TLS to issue a generic alert (which is fine, as Lucas points out).  At some later point that alert is going to hit QUIC code again so that it can be translated to a QUIC alert.  If you can save the reason from the callback (presumably you need this capability to save transport parameters) then you can construct the right message.</p>
<p>Of course, that's complicated.  The generic alert is fine.</p>

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FWIW this particular error code is the one I've seen the most of during interop. So I will make the observation that anyone building a stack that causes an ALPN failure to not be exposed, is going to cause a lot of problems for future QUIC as a generic transport layer. 



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@martinthomson 
> I hope that the application isn't the callback code, but that quicly is involved in this somehow; otherwise, you have just made H2O responsible for fulfilling QUIC requirements that you might assume quicly would be responsible for.

Yeah I think my preference goes to not having an abstraction layer in our QUIC protocol stack for hiding TLS handshake protocol API. I'd argue that the intent of using TLS in QUIC is to reuse TLS including its extensions when possible. Requiring (or recommending) a QUIC stack to provide abstraction for those extensions (that happen at the handshake protocol level) reduces that benefit.

That said, I think we agree that in this particular case a generic alert is fine, and that what we need at most is an editorial improvement.

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<p>Yeah I think my preference goes to not having an abstraction layer in our QUIC protocol stack for hiding TLS handshake protocol API. I'd argue that the intent of using TLS in QUIC is to reuse TLS including its extensions when possible. Requiring (or recommending) a QUIC stack to provide abstraction for those extensions (that happen at the handshake protocol level) reduces that benefit.</p>
<p>That said, I think we agree that in this particular case a generic alert is fine, and that what we need at most is an editorial improvement.</p>

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I agree that the normative requirements are fine. It would be good to expose the specific ALPN error, and we can make the necessary TLS change to detect this properly.

However, "generic TLS alerts" are a user-configurable setting, and we're reluctant to just override customer preference just because it's in a CONNECTION_CLOSE instead of a TLS Alert.

Moreover, when the TLS WG gets around to encrypting the ALPN, it is not clear that exposing this error is so benign anymore.

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<p>I agree that the normative requirements are fine. It would be good to expose the specific ALPN error, and we can make the necessary TLS change to detect this properly.</p>
<p>However, "generic TLS alerts" are a user-configurable setting, and we're reluctant to just override customer preference just because it's in a CONNECTION_CLOSE instead of a TLS Alert.</p>
<p>Moreover, when the TLS WG gets around to encrypting the ALPN, it is not clear that exposing this error is so benign anymore.</p>

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@ekr commented on this pull request.



> @@ -360,30 +399,20 @@ example, when a user navigates away from a particular web page) or until the
 server closes the connection.
 
 Once a connection exists to a server endpoint, this connection MAY be reused for
-requests with multiple different URI authority components.  The client MAY send
-any requests for which the client considers the server authoritative.
-
-An authoritative HTTP/3 endpoint is typically discovered because the client has
-received an Alt-Svc record from the request's origin which nominates the
-endpoint as a valid HTTP Alternative Service for that origin.  As required by
-{{!RFC7838}}, clients MUST check that the nominated server can present a valid
-certificate for the origin before considering it authoritative. Clients MUST NOT
-assume that an HTTP/3 endpoint is authoritative for other origins without an
-explicit signal.
+requests with multiple different URI authority components.  In general, a server
+is considered authoritative for all URIs with the "https" scheme for which the
+hostname in the URI is present in the authenticated certificate provided by the
+server, either as the CN field of the certificate subject or as a dNSName in the
+subjectAltName field of the certificate (see {{!RFC6125}}).  For a host that is

I fear you need to cite 2818 -- though 6125 is in fact due for revision and that should incorporate 2818.

> -any requests for which the client considers the server authoritative.
-
-An authoritative HTTP/3 endpoint is typically discovered because the client has
-received an Alt-Svc record from the request's origin which nominates the
-endpoint as a valid HTTP Alternative Service for that origin.  As required by
-{{!RFC7838}}, clients MUST check that the nominated server can present a valid
-certificate for the origin before considering it authoritative. Clients MUST NOT
-assume that an HTTP/3 endpoint is authoritative for other origins without an
-explicit signal.
+requests with multiple different URI authority components.  In general, a server
+is considered authoritative for all URIs with the "https" scheme for which the
+hostname in the URI is present in the authenticated certificate provided by the
+server, either as the CN field of the certificate subject or as a dNSName in the
+subjectAltName field of the certificate (see {{!RFC6125}}).  For a host that is
+an IP address, the client MUST verify that the address appears as an iPAddress
+in the subjectAltName field of the certificate.

Not to be nitpicky but you probably should say that if it doesn't verify it, it must fail.

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<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3558#discussion_r410434189">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -360,30 +399,20 @@ example, when a user navigates away from a particular web page) or until the
 server closes the connection.
 
 Once a connection exists to a server endpoint, this connection MAY be reused for
-requests with multiple different URI authority components.  The client MAY send
-any requests for which the client considers the server authoritative.
-
-An authoritative HTTP/3 endpoint is typically discovered because the client has
-received an Alt-Svc record from the request&#39;s origin which nominates the
-endpoint as a valid HTTP Alternative Service for that origin.  As required by
-{{!RFC7838}}, clients MUST check that the nominated server can present a valid
-certificate for the origin before considering it authoritative. Clients MUST NOT
-assume that an HTTP/3 endpoint is authoritative for other origins without an
-explicit signal.
+requests with multiple different URI authority components.  In general, a server
+is considered authoritative for all URIs with the &quot;https&quot; scheme for which the
+hostname in the URI is present in the authenticated certificate provided by the
+server, either as the CN field of the certificate subject or as a dNSName in the
+subjectAltName field of the certificate (see {{!RFC6125}}).  For a host that is
</pre>
<p>I fear you need to cite 2818 -- though 6125 is in fact due for revision and that should incorporate 2818.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3558#discussion_r410434458">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; -any requests for which the client considers the server authoritative.
-
-An authoritative HTTP/3 endpoint is typically discovered because the client has
-received an Alt-Svc record from the request&#39;s origin which nominates the
-endpoint as a valid HTTP Alternative Service for that origin.  As required by
-{{!RFC7838}}, clients MUST check that the nominated server can present a valid
-certificate for the origin before considering it authoritative. Clients MUST NOT
-assume that an HTTP/3 endpoint is authoritative for other origins without an
-explicit signal.
+requests with multiple different URI authority components.  In general, a server
+is considered authoritative for all URIs with the &quot;https&quot; scheme for which the
+hostname in the URI is present in the authenticated certificate provided by the
+server, either as the CN field of the certificate subject or as a dNSName in the
+subjectAltName field of the certificate (see {{!RFC6125}}).  For a host that is
+an IP address, the client MUST verify that the address appears as an iPAddress
+in the subjectAltName field of the certificate.
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<p>Not to be nitpicky but you probably should say that if it doesn't verify it, it must fail.</p>

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I definitely like this general structure better. 

As far as the question of whether we should import the TLS language, you would need some extensions, but I suspect that you could get pretty far with the following three:

uintX == unsigned integer of size X
uintv == varint
opaque x[lower..upper] == opaque vector without a header (TLS uses <> to mean that it has a header) and opaque x[y..] means "to end of the container and minimum size y]

I believe we've already done uintv for MLS and @bifurcation has been thinking about a generalized an a "TLS spec language" 


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<p>I definitely like this general structure better.</p>
<p>As far as the question of whether we should import the TLS language, you would need some extensions, but I suspect that you could get pretty far with the following three:</p>
<p>uintX == unsigned integer of size X<br>
uintv == varint<br>
opaque x[lower..upper] == opaque vector without a header (TLS uses &lt;&gt; to mean that it has a header) and opaque x[y..] means "to end of the container and minimum size y]</p>
<p>I believe we've already done uintv for MLS and <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/bifurcation/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/bifurcation">@bifurcation</a> has been thinking about a generalized an a "TLS spec language"</p>

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> @@ -360,30 +399,20 @@ example, when a user navigates away from a particular web page) or until the
 server closes the connection.
 
 Once a connection exists to a server endpoint, this connection MAY be reused for
-requests with multiple different URI authority components.  The client MAY send
-any requests for which the client considers the server authoritative.
-
-An authoritative HTTP/3 endpoint is typically discovered because the client has
-received an Alt-Svc record from the request's origin which nominates the
-endpoint as a valid HTTP Alternative Service for that origin.  As required by
-{{!RFC7838}}, clients MUST check that the nominated server can present a valid
-certificate for the origin before considering it authoritative. Clients MUST NOT
-assume that an HTTP/3 endpoint is authoritative for other origins without an
-explicit signal.
+requests with multiple different URI authority components.  In general, a server
+is considered authoritative for all URIs with the "https" scheme for which the
+hostname in the URI is present in the authenticated certificate provided by the
+server, either as the CN field of the certificate subject or as a dNSName in the
+subjectAltName field of the certificate (see {{!RFC6125}}).  For a host that is

Nope, core - https://github.com/httpwg/http-core/issues/236

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3558#discussion_r410538834">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -360,30 +399,20 @@ example, when a user navigates away from a particular web page) or until the
 server closes the connection.
 
 Once a connection exists to a server endpoint, this connection MAY be reused for
-requests with multiple different URI authority components.  The client MAY send
-any requests for which the client considers the server authoritative.
-
-An authoritative HTTP/3 endpoint is typically discovered because the client has
-received an Alt-Svc record from the request&#39;s origin which nominates the
-endpoint as a valid HTTP Alternative Service for that origin.  As required by
-{{!RFC7838}}, clients MUST check that the nominated server can present a valid
-certificate for the origin before considering it authoritative. Clients MUST NOT
-assume that an HTTP/3 endpoint is authoritative for other origins without an
-explicit signal.
+requests with multiple different URI authority components.  In general, a server
+is considered authoritative for all URIs with the &quot;https&quot; scheme for which the
+hostname in the URI is present in the authenticated certificate provided by the
+server, either as the CN field of the certificate subject or as a dNSName in the
+subjectAltName field of the certificate (see {{!RFC6125}}).  For a host that is
</pre>
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>Moreover, when the TLS WG gets around to encrypting the ALPN, it is not clear that exposing this error is so benign anymore.

Will ESNI/ECHO define a way to protect the confidentiality of such TLS alerts?

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The options for triage are close it, mark as editorial, or mark as design. 

This has a needs-discussion, and I'm seeing a lack of any discussion. So you might see where my thought process is going...

@erickinnear this relates to your PR on the QUIC threat model. Are you willing to provide some comment that helps us triage the issue?

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2687b58c43c63eee2bf2f2a229dc95e5b1d05654  Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md


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  Branch: refs/heads/master
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  Date:   2020-03-15 (Sun, 15 Mar 2020)

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  eliminate the different between when having no RTT sample and having one


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  to be clear, split paragraphs that discuss no rtt sample vs. 1 rtt sample


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  Merge branch 'master' into kazuho/initial-timeouts


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  Merge pull request #3525 from kazuho/kazuho/initial-timeouts

eliminate the difference between when having no RTT sample and having one


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Merged #3525 into master.

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Closed #3524 via #3525.

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27e3e87f9d41148ba04c39bde51e3c4030126193  Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md


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Feel free to suggest better text or other reasons, but this is what I came up with.

Fixes #3261
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  * Why min CWND of 2 instead of 1

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<p>Feel free to suggest better text or other reasons, but this is what I came up with.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3261.">Fixes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="524691001" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3261" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3261/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3261">#3261</a></p>

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  <li>Why min CWND of 2 instead of 1</li>
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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: 3dc10be1eba2a005b9e95a5f03c5db48951d5464
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3dc10be1eba2a005b9e95a5f03c5db48951d5464
  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-03-29 (Sun, 29 Mar 2020)

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  Do not reset pto_count on Initial ACKs

In order to avoid sending anti-deadlock packets too quickly when the server doesn't yet have anything to send.

Fixes #3546


  Commit: 2c682ab830ff4b2d35be0e1a0acc62108ea3d7c9
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-03-29 (Sun, 29 Mar 2020)

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  Commit: f31ae49b91f809ec679775f77f565540bda49a7d
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-03-29 (Sun, 29 Mar 2020)

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  Revert reflow changes to keep them separate


  Commit: c682269b2ebc0b8d40f97b96e97b69689fd02562
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  Date:   2020-03-29 (Sun, 29 Mar 2020)

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  Commit: 50e0259f955a69de2bd7bd88d10ee808a1727432
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-03-29 (Sun, 29 Mar 2020)

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  Set pto_count to 0 when dropping keys

This should have been in the PR that created OnPacketNumberSpaceDiscarded().


  Commit: 85bb93e1be8612c4e1b70a0506e5793b2f966c6e
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/85bb93e1be8612c4e1b70a0506e5793b2f966c6e
  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-03-30 (Mon, 30 Mar 2020)

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  Only do this for the client


  Commit: 96d2a6bde85df0b92864dd8cdc92b1aa35838dfa
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/96d2a6bde85df0b92864dd8cdc92b1aa35838dfa
  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-03-31 (Tue, 31 Mar 2020)

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  Commit: 62544e2403262f194f0074de29171da839581677
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/62544e2403262f194f0074de29171da839581677
  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-03-31 (Tue, 31 Mar 2020)

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  Apply suggestions from code review

Co-Authored-By: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>


  Commit: 4b278382d1703d6433ae5a1cb2a5ff9628227f27
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-03-31 (Tue, 31 Mar 2020)

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  Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md


  Commit: 5a7994cad149f467f72ff21e240c62cfaf0523d8
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  Date:   2020-04-01 (Wed, 01 Apr 2020)

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  Merge branch 'master' into ianswett-initial-pto


  Commit: 3bd99fbdbfcc74e15f1a0402f2168b9f30ab14a5
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-04-02 (Thu, 02 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Kazuho's suggestion


  Commit: a1eff954c33c39d35b62d3a5491099e83562f0e2
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a1eff954c33c39d35b62d3a5491099e83562f0e2
  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-04-09 (Thu, 09 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Apply suggestions from code review

Co-Authored-By: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>


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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
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  Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md


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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
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  Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md


  Commit: e192b697af82865eedc302435a35bd99bede506b
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-04-09 (Thu, 09 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md


  Commit: 02069cd3461402b75d3a6b5924728875ae58277e
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-04-09 (Thu, 09 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
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      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1a1e49b557c6d913461b4b692aa38884e7aecd1a
  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-04-18 (Sat, 18 Apr 2020)

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  Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md


  Commit: 7826ec1e1a5db2c03eebd43ff9dfd5ef6b3e4f69
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7826ec1e1a5db2c03eebd43ff9dfd5ef6b3e4f69
  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-04-18 (Sat, 18 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md


  Commit: 2687b58c43c63eee2bf2f2a229dc95e5b1d05654
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2687b58c43c63eee2bf2f2a229dc95e5b1d05654
  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-04-18 (Sat, 18 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Commit: beca7cd89fadd8ab85d81aee9856aa53e90648f9
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-04-19 (Sun, 19 Apr 2020)

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  Commit: 1f178bd4d73ac7f3f7c2168e775fe5f64c92dc61
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1f178bd4d73ac7f3f7c2168e775fe5f64c92dc61
  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-04-19 (Sun, 19 Apr 2020)

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  Commit: eb935271a7446ecdf7d598c794db2ebfd4c4ff39
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-04-19 (Sun, 19 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md


  Commit: 6db7436f8ed8aaf1d52c1c136321fd3639c08062
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-04-19 (Sun, 19 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Merge pull request #3551 from quicwg/ianswett-initial-pto

Do not reset pto_count on Initial ACKs


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/72c15c77fefa...6db7436f8ed8


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> @@ -245,6 +245,13 @@ QUIC specifies a time-based definition to ensure one or more packets are sent
 prior to a dramatic decrease in congestion window; see
 {{persistent-congestion}}.
 
+### Increase the min congestion window to 2 packets

Use "minimum congestion window" to stay consistent with rest of the draft. FWIW RFC 5681 for TCP refers to this as loss window LW. Not sure if we want to use the same term in this draft.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3586#discussion_r411008538">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -245,6 +245,13 @@ QUIC specifies a time-based definition to ensure one or more packets are sent
 prior to a dramatic decrease in congestion window; see
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+### Increase the min congestion window to 2 packets
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<p>Use "minimum congestion window" to stay consistent with rest of the draft. FWIW RFC 5681 for TCP refers to this as loss window LW. Not sure if we want to use the same term in this draft.</p>

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> @@ -245,6 +245,13 @@ QUIC specifies a time-based definition to ensure one or more packets are sent
 prior to a dramatic decrease in congestion window; see
 {{persistent-congestion}}.
 
+### Increase the min congestion window to 2 packets
+
+QUIC recommends a minimum congestion window of 2 packets instead of TCP's 1.
+2 packets avoid waiting for a delayed acknowledgement and allow the PTO to
+send 2 packets instead of 1, which can be particularly important during the

The PTO is not limited by the cwnd.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3586#discussion_r411056566">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -245,6 +245,13 @@ QUIC specifies a time-based definition to ensure one or more packets are sent
 prior to a dramatic decrease in congestion window; see
 {{persistent-congestion}}.
 
+### Increase the min congestion window to 2 packets
+
+QUIC recommends a minimum congestion window of 2 packets instead of TCP&#39;s 1.
+2 packets avoid waiting for a delayed acknowledgement and allow the PTO to
+send 2 packets instead of 1, which can be particularly important during the
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I think that we can take this as editorial, as it merely requires that we capture already agreed principles (we don't protect against an adversary who can inject packets).  @erickinnear's assistance would be useful, but I can produce text if nothing is forthcoming.

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<p>I think that we can take this as editorial, as it merely requires that we capture already agreed principles (we don't protect against an adversary who can inject packets).  <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/erickinnear/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/erickinnear">@erickinnear</a>'s assistance would be useful, but I can produce text if nothing is forthcoming.</p>

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@martinthomson requested changes on this pull request.



> @@ -245,6 +245,13 @@ QUIC specifies a time-based definition to ensure one or more packets are sent
 prior to a dramatic decrease in congestion window; see
 {{persistent-congestion}}.
 
+### Increase the min congestion window to 2 packets

```suggestion
### The Minimum Congestion Window is 2 Packets
```

Title Case is Used in This Document

> @@ -245,6 +245,13 @@ QUIC specifies a time-based definition to ensure one or more packets are sent
 prior to a dramatic decrease in congestion window; see
 {{persistent-congestion}}.
 
+### Increase the min congestion window to 2 packets
+
+QUIC recommends a minimum congestion window of 2 packets instead of TCP's 1.

```suggestion
QUIC recommends that the minimum congestion window be 2 packets instead 
of the 1 packet minimum in TCP.
```

> @@ -245,6 +245,13 @@ QUIC specifies a time-based definition to ensure one or more packets are sent
 prior to a dramatic decrease in congestion window; see
 {{persistent-congestion}}.
 
+### Increase the min congestion window to 2 packets
+
+QUIC recommends a minimum congestion window of 2 packets instead of TCP's 1.
+2 packets avoid waiting for a delayed acknowledgement and allow the PTO to
+send 2 packets instead of 1, which can be particularly important during the

What Marten said.  This justification makes no sense.  Probing with two packets is different.  

As far as I can tell, this is an arbitrary choice, driven primarily by a desire to avoid the performance floor being too low.

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This issue has been extensively litigated and I don't think that there is new information that would suggest a change here.  Implementations are free to assume that ECN works, but we did previously have consensus to recommend a more conservative approach.

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<p>This issue has been extensively litigated and I don't think that there is new information that would suggest a change here.  Implementations are free to assume that ECN works, but we did previously have consensus to recommend a more conservative approach.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
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  #3489: Note that state probably needs to be maintained for each issued CID if the peer chooses to use it


  Commit: 7ab2f2ef93a33ed9adb9e5e9c2a7c842cfc6471f
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  Commit: db65357e18d4e38d7e9c8ac16e1b66ef21d8e51b
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  Merge pull request #3557 from erickinnear/ek/per_cid_state

Note that state needs to be maintained for each issued CID if the peer chooses to use it


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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-03-19 (Thu, 19 Mar 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Limit connection drops from Version Negotiation

The text was a little too broad.  This breaks up the text and adds two
caveats to handling rules:

1. If you have handled another packet, then assume that everything is
good.

2. If you the VN includes QUIC v1, then assume that something got
corrupted.

Closes #3532.


  Commit: 3694163e12642a883968502c1225472f80692c16
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  Date:   2020-03-19 (Thu, 19 Mar 2020)

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  Jana's suggestion


  Commit: 70772cb0d2cc7975c56d862d5fcd619c0baa5daf
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  Date:   2020-04-20 (Mon, 20 Apr 2020)

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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #3533 from quicwg/ignore-same-version-vn

Limit connection drops from Version Negotiation


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Don't remember the ACK delay


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@martinthomson pushed 2 commits.

4d4701548ea1d9f18140e89a1114c003b4af79ed  Consistent naming for _BLOCKED fields
e05726eb06f6ea4b94991b71305cfd6c4feff9e5  Merge pull request #3584 from quicwg/blocked-frame-limit-names


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Merged #3584 into alternative-format.

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@janaiyengar you should probably look at this.  I have marked the associated issue `proposal ready` anyway, but I'd appreciate another review.

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> @@ -2246,6 +2246,14 @@ that packet numbers cannot be used to correlate activity.  This does not prevent
 other properties of packets, such as timing and size, from being used to
 correlate activity.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD NOT initiate migration with a peer that uses a zero-length
+connection ID, for two reasons. First, if the peer routes incoming packets using

Thanks David.  I think that is clearer and have tweaked it.  I'm not sure that the last statement is entirely correct, because - at least in theory - there are systems with properties similar to connection IDs.  However, I'm OK with adding that on the assumption that an endpoint will need to be aware of the scheme so that they can participate in it.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3563#discussion_r411108809">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -2246,6 +2246,14 @@ that packet numbers cannot be used to correlate activity.  This does not prevent
 other properties of packets, such as timing and size, from being used to
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+An endpoint SHOULD NOT initiate migration with a peer that uses a zero-length
+connection ID, for two reasons. First, if the peer routes incoming packets using
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<p>Thanks David.  I think that is clearer and have tweaked it.  I'm not sure that the last statement is entirely correct, because - at least in theory - there are systems with properties similar to connection IDs.  However, I'm OK with adding that on the assumption that an endpoint will need to be aware of the scheme so that they can participate in it.</p>

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I can always provide comments, no guarantees on how much they'll help tri=
age =F0=9F=98=83 =0D
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IIRC, this is an issue filed from a comment on the threat model PR that w=
as several-months merged to potentially increase the scope of what that c=
overed.=0D
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I think that the original threat model that @ekr and I put together, cove=
ring the handshake and migration respectively, is intended to be the star=
t of that section -- as additional items are discovered that could use co=
verage there to help clarify QUIC's stance on whatever issue, they should=
 totally be added. I agree with @martinthomson that adding such items see=
m editorial, as it they aren't introducing any new requirements and are o=
nly capturing current realities as specified elsewhere.=0D
=0D
(Of course, as that text is written, it seems logical that putting it all=
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So, I'd probably consider this editorial, and ask @mikkelfj to potentiall=
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<p>I can always provide comments, no guarantees on how much they'll help =
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<p>IIRC, this is an issue filed from a comment on the threat model PR tha=
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<p>I think that the original threat model that <a class=3D"user-mention" =
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all in words next to each other may highlight issues, and if the WG decid=
es that we don't like how the current spec results in a particular securi=
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<p>So, I'd probably consider this editorial, and ask <a class=3D"user-men=
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hovercard" data-octo-click=3D"hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions=3D=
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  Branch: refs/heads/hs-mitm
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: 5e5a61d904bc870925af97a27d11d18b8a5c2520
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5e5a61d904bc870925af97a27d11d18b8a5c2520
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-04-20 (Mon, 20 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Describe what happens if TLS breaks

We don't ever really say that QUIC depends on TLS providing the
properties that we claim TLS provides.  So it's worth pointing that
exposure.  This is more so because some of the properties we claim are
dependent on these properties.

Closes #3512.



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We don&#39;t ever really say that QUIC depends on TLS providing the
properties that we claim TLS provides.  So it&#39;s worth pointing that
exposure.  This is more so because some of the properties we claim are
dependent on these properties.

Closes #3512.
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  * Describe what happens if TLS breaks

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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (22)

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<p>We don't ever really say that QUIC depends on TLS providing the<br>
properties that we claim TLS provides.  So it's worth pointing that<br>
exposure.  This is more so because some of the properties we claim are<br>
dependent on these properties.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3512.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="579441117" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3512" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3512/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3512">#3512</a>.</p>

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@erickinnear approved this pull request.

Looking good, thanks for writing this!

> +of confidentiality protections, both from the negotiation of keys using the TLS
+handshake and from QUIC packet protection, to avoid linkability across network

Minor word nit:
```suggestion
of confidentiality protections, both for the negotiation of keys using the TLS
handshake and for QUIC packet protection, to avoid linkability across network
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This just writes down what @MikeBishop suggested in #3432.

Closes #3432.



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Digging through history here here, this was going to resolve #3353, however we had discussed replacing this particular set of text and with something a bit more condensed.

We got some of that editorial text here via #3497.

#3353 is a design issue and the proposal from ZRH was to close with no normative changes, simply clarify the text via editorial changes.

>From the comment in #3353, @martinthomson filed an issue (is that #3560?) to cover editorial changes, but that's been marked design and has PR #3565 covering those changes, which seem good and necessary. 

I'll go through #3353 (the original) and send a PR for anything covered there that's not already in via the editorial change #3497, which _should_ mean we've covered all our bases here and the result of #3353 will be "no design changes to be made, editorial text clarified via #3497 and as-yet-unnumbered-PR".

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To echo #3354: 

I think #3354 was going to be replaced with something a bit more condensed, which means that the result here will be "no design changes to be made, editorial text clarified via #3497 and as-yet-unnumbered-PR".

Making as-yet-unnumbered-PR now.

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<p>To echo <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="551168076" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3354" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3354/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3354">#3354</a>:</p>
<p>I think <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="551168076" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3354" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3354/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3354">#3354</a> was going to be replaced with something a bit more condensed, which means that the result here will be "no design changes to be made, editorial text clarified via <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="575033247" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3497" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3497/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3497">#3497</a> and as-yet-unnumbered-PR".</p>
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  Branch: refs/heads/hs-mitm
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-04-20 (Mon, 20 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
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9c911c716fddb325c0bdd91039f0e6095442cc74  Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md


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This just writes down what @MikeBishop suggested in #3432.

Closes #3432.
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-- Commit Summary --

  * Clarifications for preferred_address

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (11)

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<p>This just writes down what <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/MikeBishop/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/MikeBishop">@MikeBishop</a> suggested in <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="560881699" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3432" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3432/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3432">#3432</a>.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3432.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="560881699" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3432" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3432/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3432">#3432</a>.</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>Clarifications for preferred_address</li>
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<h4>File Changes</h4>
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Add remaining changes from #3353, specifically: 
- Handshake finished -&gt; confirmed
- Move text around to clarify existing requirements around local addresses and CIDs
- Add note nearby when describing use of SPA that preferred address can be used with CIDs other than that specified in the TP (this is already described later in the document)


Closes #3353.
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-- Commit Summary --

  * Clarify existing requirements on CID use to consolidate expected behavior
  * Make {{issue-cid}} and {{retire-cid}} consistent
  * Clarify handshake confirmed for preferred address, note that any CID is valid for use as mentioned later

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (53)

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<p>Add remaining changes from <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="551074329" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3353" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3353/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3353">#3353</a>, specifically:</p>
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<li>Handshake finished -&gt; confirmed</li>
<li>Move text around to clarify existing requirements around local addresses and CIDs</li>
<li>Add note nearby when describing use of SPA that preferred address can be used with CIDs other than that specified in the TP (this is already described later in the document)</li>
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<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3353.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="551074329" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3353" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3353/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3353">#3353</a>.</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
<ul>
  <li>Clarify existing requirements on CID use to consolidate expected behavior</li>
  <li>Make {{issue-cid}} and {{retire-cid}} consistent</li>
  <li>Clarify handshake confirmed for preferred address, note that any CID is valid for use as mentioned later</li>
</ul>

<h4>File Changes</h4>
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  <li>
    <strong>M</strong>
    <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3589/files#diff-db016291106766877c4921a79f8596e0">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>
    (53)
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  <li><a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3589.diff'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3589.diff</a></li>
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Since this concerns the handshake, I'm not too confident in contributing text but I'd be happy to review and discuss.

I believe it is correct that the issue is covered in existing text elsewhere but as @erickinnear says, it makes sense to cover it in one place. The risk is that the reader is not aware how important it is to reach a certain point in the connection before trusting data, and especially to those seeking to create derived versions. From various discussions I'm not sure the importance is broadly understood.

Additionally, I'm not entirely convinced that the current text fully captures the problem - not the we necessarily can - for example various stateless transmissions / redirects / token issues - might assume a level of privacy that doesn't exist in all cases, thus requiring stronger integrity elsewhere such as in CIDs, tokens etc..



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<p></p>
<p>Since this concerns the handshake, I'm not too confident in contributing text but I'd be happy to review and discuss.</p>
<p>I believe it is correct that the issue is covered in existing text elsewhere but as <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/erickinnear/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/erickinnear">@erickinnear</a> says, it makes sense to cover it in one place. The risk is that the reader is not aware how important it is to reach a certain point in the connection before trusting data, and especially to those seeking to create derived versions. From various discussions I'm not sure the importance is broadly understood.</p>
<p>Additionally, I'm not entirely convinced that the current text fully captures the problem - not the we necessarily can - for example various stateless transmissions / redirects / token issues - might assume a level of privacy that doesn't exist in all cases, thus requiring stronger integrity elsewhere such as in CIDs, tokens etc..</p>

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@martinthomson commented on this pull request.

Thanks for putting this together.

I have a few editorial comments, which look worse than they really are.

> +Similarly, an endpoint MUST NOT reuse a connection ID when sending to more than
+one destination address, for example when responding to a change in the address
+of a peer if the packet with the new peer address uses an active connection ID
+that has not been previously used by the peer.

This is a little long and the 'for example' is a little buried.

```suggestion
Similarly, an endpoint MUST NOT reuse a connection ID when sending to a remote
address from which the peer has chosen to use a connection ID that has not
previously been used.  This occurs when an endpoint receives packets that
include a change to both the source address and destination connection ID at the
same time.
```

> +Note that these requirements apply to the endpoints sending packets, as
+unintentional changes in path without a change in connection ID are possible.
+For example, after a period of network inactivity, NAT rebinding might cause
+packets to be sent on a new path when the client resumes sending.  An endpoint
+responds to such an event as described in {{migration-response}}.

```suggestion
These requirements regarding connection ID reuse apply only to the sending of
packets, as unintentional changes in path without a change in connection ID are
possible.  For example, after a period of network inactivity, NAT rebinding
might cause packets to be sent on a new path when the client resumes sending.
An endpoint responds to such an event as described in {{migration-response}}.
```

>  : The sequence number of the connection ID being retired.  See
-  {{retiring-cids}}.
+  {{retire-cid}}.

I can't suggest here (damn GitHub).  But what you want is a semi-colon: '; see {{retire-cid}}.'

> @@ -5610,7 +5619,7 @@ IDs, the endpoint MAY treat that receipt as a connection error of type
 PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.
 
 The Retire Prior To field counts connection IDs established during connection
-setup and the preferred_address transport parameter (see {{retiring-cids}}). The
+setup and the preferred_address transport parameter (see {{retire-cid}}). The

```suggestion
setup and the preferred_address transport parameter; see {{retire-cid}}. The
```

>  : A variable-length integer indicating which connection IDs should be retired.
-  See {{retiring-cids}}.
+  See {{retire-cid}}.

semi-colon here too.

>  {{migrate-validate}}) of that address using the connection ID provided in the
-preferred_address transport parameter.
+preferred_address transport parameter or, if that connection ID has been
+retired, any active connection ID that has not already been used on a different
+path.

I can't suggest here, but maybe "using any previously unused connection ID, taken from either the preferred_address transport parameter or the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame."

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Thanks folks. It seems we have a path forward, so I'm removing the needs-discussion label. The editorial process will naturally generate some back and forth but that is the same for all editorial issues. 

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<p>Thanks folks. It seems we have a path forward, so I'm removing the needs-discussion label. The editorial process will naturally generate some back and forth but that is the same for all editorial issues.</p>

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I don't think we had consensus to recommend this and the proposed text makes clear that this is not a recommendation.

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<p>I don't think we had consensus to recommend this and the proposed text makes clear that this is not a recommendation.</p>

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>  {{migrate-validate}}) of that address using the connection ID provided in the
-preferred_address transport parameter.
+preferred_address transport parameter or, if that connection ID has been
+retired, any active connection ID that has not already been used on a different
+path.

I prefer @martinthomson's suggestion. For CIDs provided by NCID frames, we do not require them to be used in particular order, even when the client has received CIDs in order. I would be hesitant to to require in-order use of CID when SPA is involved.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3589#discussion_r411351974">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  {{migrate-validate}}) of that address using the connection ID provided in the
-preferred_address transport parameter.
+preferred_address transport parameter or, if that connection ID has been
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<p>I prefer <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/martinthomson/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/martinthomson">@martinthomson</a>'s suggestion. For CIDs provided by NCID frames, we do not require them to be used in particular order, even when the client has received CIDs in order. I would be hesitant to to require in-order use of CID when SPA is involved.</p>

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  Date:   2020-03-30 (Mon, 30 Mar 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Speak as one with authority


  Commit: 9d12af7725d8b44897c17cc174632eb83868340e
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  Commit: 312062018b0596e9a751a7004781598f4059b343
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  Date:   2020-03-31 (Tue, 31 Mar 2020)

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  Apply suggestions from code review

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  Merge pull request #3558 from quicwg/http/authority

Authoritative access in HTTP/3


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Merged #3558 into master.

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Closed #253 via #3558.

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@ekr, I'll get your comments as a separate PR.

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Addresses @ekr&#39;s comments on #3558.  While this adds a new MUST NOT, I believe it&#39;s editorial because it&#39;s simply stating the implicit result of the &quot;MUST verify&quot; in that PR.  If anyone disagrees, speak up and I&#39;ll change it.

Separately, I think there&#39;s a case for this &quot;MUST NOT&quot; to be a &quot;SHOULD NOT,&quot; as we all know there are situations in which clients proceed through a certificate warning.  It&#39;s a reasonable semantic distinction whether the client does not consider the server authoritative but processes the result anyway (MUST NOT), or considers the server authoritative because the user told it to (SHOULD NOT).  Opinions on the bikeshed welcome.
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-- Commit Summary --

  * MUST verify =&gt; MUST NOT accept on fail

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (5)

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<p>Addresses <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/ekr/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/ekr">@ekr</a>'s comments on <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="590553031" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3558" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3558/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3558">#3558</a>.  While this adds a new MUST NOT, I believe it's editorial because it's simply stating the implicit result of the "MUST verify" in that PR.  If anyone disagrees, speak up and I'll change it.</p>
<p>Separately, I think there's a case for this "MUST NOT" to be a "SHOULD NOT," as we all know there are situations in which clients proceed through a certificate warning.  It's a reasonable semantic distinction whether the client does not consider the server authoritative but processes the result anyway (MUST NOT), or considers the server authoritative because the user told it to (SHOULD NOT).  Opinions on the bikeshed welcome.</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>MUST verify =&gt; MUST NOT accept on fail</li>
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<h4>File Changes</h4>
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For the semicolon ones which aren't in text you're actually changing, it might be better to leave them and do a separate editorial PR that cleans these up.  I'm sure the ones that hit the updated reference aren't the only ones.

> +Similarly, an endpoint MUST NOT reuse a connection ID when sending to more than
+one destination address, for example when responding to a change in the address
+of a peer if the packet with the new peer address uses an active connection ID
+that has not been previously used by the peer.

This is more precise, but still feels a little obtuse.  Would it be clearer to switch this into an exception?
```suggestion
Similarly, an endpoint MUST NOT reuse a connection ID when sending to more than
one destination address.  However, if an endpoint receives packets from a new
source address with the same destination connection ID, it MAY continue to use
the current connection ID with the new address.
```

> @@ -5654,7 +5663,7 @@ RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames contain the following fields:
 Sequence Number:
 
 : The sequence number of the connection ID being retired.  See

```suggestion
: The sequence number of the connection ID being retired; see
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Thanks for incorporating my suggestions!



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<p><b>@DavidSchinazi</b> approved this pull request.</p>

<p>Thanks for incorporating my suggestions!</p>

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I don't see any conversation in this PR about it, but I see a commit titled simply "non-normative" reverting the reference from RACK back to NCR. It's not a big deal, but I'm just curious about the reasoning.

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>  {{migrate-validate}}) of that address using the connection ID provided in the
-preferred_address transport parameter.
+preferred_address transport parameter or, if that connection ID has been
+retired, any active connection ID that has not already been used on a different
+path.

Thanks! I was struggling to find a way to word that nicely, this is much better.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3589#discussion_r411644109">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  {{migrate-validate}}) of that address using the connection ID provided in the
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+preferred_address transport parameter or, if that connection ID has been
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> @@ -245,6 +245,13 @@ QUIC specifies a time-based definition to ensure one or more packets are sent
 prior to a dramatic decrease in congestion window; see
 {{persistent-congestion}}.
 
+### Increase the min congestion window to 2 packets
+
+QUIC recommends a minimum congestion window of 2 packets instead of TCP's 1.
+2 packets avoid waiting for a delayed acknowledgement and allow the PTO to
+send 2 packets instead of 1, which can be particularly important during the

Always hitting delayed acks can be a major problem as well, though QUIC allows explicitly communicating those, which avoids some problems.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3586#discussion_r411712578">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -245,6 +245,13 @@ QUIC specifies a time-based definition to ensure one or more packets are sent
 prior to a dramatic decrease in congestion window; see
 {{persistent-congestion}}.
 
+### Increase the min congestion window to 2 packets
+
+QUIC recommends a minimum congestion window of 2 packets instead of TCP&#39;s 1.
+2 packets avoid waiting for a delayed acknowledgement and allow the PTO to
+send 2 packets instead of 1, which can be particularly important during the
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5580b7a57d7fa5f1585f598751f9930b4480c01a  Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md


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> +Similarly, an endpoint MUST NOT reuse a connection ID when sending to more than
+one destination address, for example when responding to a change in the address
+of a peer if the packet with the new peer address uses an active connection ID
+that has not been previously used by the peer.

I'm happy with Mike's suggestion.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3589#discussion_r411724260">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +Similarly, an endpoint MUST NOT reuse a connection ID when sending to more than
+one destination address, for example when responding to a change in the address
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> @@ -245,6 +245,15 @@ QUIC specifies a time-based definition to ensure one or more packets are sent
 prior to a dramatic decrease in congestion window; see
 {{persistent-congestion}}.
 
+### The Minimum Congestion Window is 2 Packets
+
+QUIC recommends that the minimum congestion window be 2 packets instead
+of the 1 packet minimum in TCP. A minimum of 2 packets avoids waiting for a
+delayed acknowledgement, which can substantially decrease throughput,
+particularly if the max_ack_delay is larger than the round trip time.
+A 2 packet minimum congestion window also avoids waiting for a probe
+timeout(see {{pto}}) every time a single packet is lost.

```suggestion
timeout (see {{pto}}) every time a single packet is lost.
```

> +A 2 packet minimum congestion window also avoids waiting for a probe
+timeout(see {{pto}}) every time a single packet is lost.

I don't think that this is saying exactly what you want to say.

The point here, if I understand it, is that when an endpoint detects persistent congestion and reduces the window to the minimum, having two packets means that there is a far lower chance of BOTH of those packets being lost.  That greatly improves the likelihood that an acknowledgment will be returned and the connection can start to claw itself out of the hole it found itself in.

The point about sending a probe on PTO is only a consequence of the above; I wouldn't bother mentioning PTO.

> +of the 1 packet minimum in TCP. A minimum of 2 packets avoids waiting for a
+delayed acknowledgement, which can substantially decrease throughput,
+particularly if the max_ack_delay is larger than the round trip time.

I'm not sure that this is true.  Hitting the minimum congestion window occurs after persistent congestion, at which point we might assume that any packet getting through will cause an immediate ACK (as there is likely a vast gap).  The only case where that doesn't happen is if only ACKs are being lost, where sending two packets don't help much as only the loss of the first will trigger an immediate ACK.

I think that the point below is stronger.

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> @@ -6170,10 +6170,22 @@ considered separately.
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 The QUIC handshake incorporates the TLS 1.3 handshake and enjoys the

enjoys is an odd word to me, but I'm struggling to find a better one.

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+Any attack on the TLS handshake that might compromise the secrecy or uniqueness

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@ianswett approved this pull request.

Some small nits, but this looks good.

> +Similarly, an endpoint MUST NOT reuse a connection ID when sending to more than
+one destination address, for example when responding to a change in the address
+of a peer if the packet with the new peer address uses an active connection ID
+that has not been previously used by the peer.

Is rationale useful here?   ie "as this indicates the peer did not intentionally change its address."?

> @@ -5610,7 +5619,7 @@ IDs, the endpoint MAY treat that receipt as a connection error of type
 PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.
 
 The Retire Prior To field counts connection IDs established during connection
-setup and the preferred_address transport parameter (see {{retiring-cids}}). The
+setup and the preferred_address transport parameter (see {{retire-cid}}). The

I thought parens were fine?  Personally, I prefer parens, so I'm curious why prefer semicolons?

I think they're used quite widely, so if you want to consistently move to semicolons, I'd suggest a single cleanup PR to switch everything over.

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<p><b>@ianswett</b> approved this pull request.</p>

<p>Some small nits, but this looks good.</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3589#discussion_r411821951">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +Similarly, an endpoint MUST NOT reuse a connection ID when sending to more than
+one destination address, for example when responding to a change in the address
+of a peer if the packet with the new peer address uses an active connection ID
+that has not been previously used by the peer.
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<p>Is rationale useful here?   ie "as this indicates the peer did not intentionally change its address."?</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3589#discussion_r411823211">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -5610,7 +5619,7 @@ IDs, the endpoint MAY treat that receipt as a connection error of type
 PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.
 
 The Retire Prior To field counts connection IDs established during connection
-setup and the preferred_address transport parameter (see {{retiring-cids}}). The
+setup and the preferred_address transport parameter (see {{retire-cid}}). The
</pre>
<p>I thought parens were fine?  Personally, I prefer parens, so I'm curious why prefer semicolons?</p>
<p>I think they're used quite widely, so if you want to consistently move to semicolons, I'd suggest a single cleanup PR to switch everything over.</p>

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>  : The sequence number of the connection ID being retired.  See
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+  {{retire-cid}}.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3589#discussion_r411860302">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  : The sequence number of the connection ID being retired.  See
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>  : A variable-length integer indicating which connection IDs should be retired.
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+  See {{retire-cid}}.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3589#discussion_r411860380">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
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>  {{migrate-validate}}) of that address using the connection ID provided in the
-preferred_address transport parameter.
+preferred_address transport parameter or, if that connection ID has been
+retired, any active connection ID that has not already been used on a different
+path.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3589#discussion_r411860622">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  {{migrate-validate}}) of that address using the connection ID provided in the
-preferred_address transport parameter.
+preferred_address transport parameter or, if that connection ID has been
+retired, any active connection ID that has not already been used on a different
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<p>Fixed in <a class="commit-link" data-hovercard-type="commit" data-hovercard-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5509f1d2cd36a7c3dd780cf3722338b2c0348680/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5509f1d2cd36a7c3dd780cf3722338b2c0348680"><tt>5509f1d</tt></a></p>

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> +Similarly, an endpoint MUST NOT reuse a connection ID when sending to more than
+one destination address, for example when responding to a change in the address
+of a peer if the packet with the new peer address uses an active connection ID
+that has not been previously used by the peer.

Thanks! This is nice wording, added in 5509f1d.
 
Re: rationale, I think that's mostly covered by two notes indicating that this can happen.
This one, the immediate next paragraph after the sentence in question:
```
These requirements regarding connection ID reuse apply only to the sending of
packets, as unintentional changes in path without a change in connection ID are
possible.  For example, after a period of network inactivity, NAT rebinding
might cause packets to be sent on a new path when the client resumes sending.
An endpoint responds to such an event as described in {{migration-response}}.
```
and, immediately after the other place we talk about this kind of interaction: 
```
Not all changes of peer address are intentional, or active, migrations. The peer
could experience NAT rebinding: a change of address due to a middlebox, usually
a NAT, allocating a new outgoing port or even a new outgoing IP address for a
flow.  An endpoint MUST perform path validation ({{migrate-validate}}) if it
detects any change to a peer's address, unless it has previously validated that
address.
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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3589#discussion_r411862410">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +Similarly, an endpoint MUST NOT reuse a connection ID when sending to more than
+one destination address, for example when responding to a change in the address
+of a peer if the packet with the new peer address uses an active connection ID
+that has not been previously used by the peer.
</pre>
<p>Thanks! This is nice wording, added in <a class="commit-link" data-hovercard-type="commit" data-hovercard-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5509f1d2cd36a7c3dd780cf3722338b2c0348680/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5509f1d2cd36a7c3dd780cf3722338b2c0348680"><tt>5509f1d</tt></a>.</p>
<p>Re: rationale, I think that's mostly covered by two notes indicating that this can happen.<br>
This one, the immediate next paragraph after the sentence in question:</p>
<pre><code>These requirements regarding connection ID reuse apply only to the sending of
packets, as unintentional changes in path without a change in connection ID are
possible.  For example, after a period of network inactivity, NAT rebinding
might cause packets to be sent on a new path when the client resumes sending.
An endpoint responds to such an event as described in {{migration-response}}.
</code></pre>
<p>and, immediately after the other place we talk about this kind of interaction:</p>
<pre><code>Not all changes of peer address are intentional, or active, migrations. The peer
could experience NAT rebinding: a change of address due to a middlebox, usually
a NAT, allocating a new outgoing port or even a new outgoing IP address for a
flow.  An endpoint MUST perform path validation ({{migrate-validate}}) if it
detects any change to a peer's address, unless it has previously validated that
address.
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We've moved a bunch of stuff to semicolons (I did like parenthesis a bit too), so I kept these consistent since we're touching those lines here already, and I will send a separate PR that just changes some of the others that aren't related to any of the changes in this PR.

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This is beyond editorial, so skipping an issue for this, but since it came up in #3589.

Bikeshed time! Let&#39;s pick between semicolons and parenthesis. 

This PR unifies the &quot;see Section X.Y.Z&quot; at the ends of sentences into the form 
```
sentence words; see Section X.Y.Z.
```
instead of 
```
sentence words (see Section X.Y.Z).
```

However, this doesn&#39;t touch the middle of sentences: 
```
These are some sentence words (see Section X.Y.Z) about some stuff you should probably do.
```
Suggestions welcome for the semicolon form of that. 

There are other cases that don&#39;t quite seem to fit with semicolons, as well: 
```
- write data, understanding when stream flow control credit
  ({{data-flow-control}}) has successfully been reserved to send the written
  data;
- end the stream (clean termination), resulting in a STREAM frame
  ({{frame-stream}}) with the FIN bit set; and
- reset the stream (abrupt termination), resulting in a RESET_STREAM frame
  ({{frame-reset-stream}}), if the stream was not already in a terminal state.
```
and this seems like it wouldn&#39;t want to split between two different styles:
```
This section describes streams in terms of their send or receive components.
Two state machines are described: one for the streams on which an endpoint
transmits data ({{stream-send-states}}), and another for streams on which an
endpoint receives data ({{stream-recv-states}}).
```
One last example for this one:
```
A receiver sets initial credits for all streams by sending transport parameters
during the handshake ({{transport-parameters}}).  A receiver sends
MAX_STREAM_DATA ({{frame-max-stream-data}}) or MAX_DATA ({{frame-max-data}})
frames to the sender to advertise additional credit.
```

And, finally, direct references without &quot;see&quot; too:
```
as a connection error of type STREAM_LIMIT_ERROR (Section X.Y.Z).
```
vs. 
```
as a connection error of type STREAM_LIMIT_ERROR; Section X.Y.Z.
```

So, for now, I&#39;ve changed all of the &quot;see Section X.Y.Z&quot; form to use semicolons, as they were pretty split between the two already.

Either way we choose, happy to switch this up to match (it&#39;s not consistent either way, so no matter what a change is necessary), so this PR can be used to go in either direction.
You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

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  * Unify on semicolon

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (158)

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<p>This is beyond editorial, so skipping an issue for this, but since it came up in <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="603026798" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3589" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3589/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3589">#3589</a>.</p>
<p>Bikeshed time! Let's pick between semicolons and parenthesis.</p>
<p>This PR unifies the "see Section X.Y.Z" at the ends of sentences into the form</p>
<pre><code>sentence words; see Section X.Y.Z.
</code></pre>
<p>instead of</p>
<pre><code>sentence words (see Section X.Y.Z).
</code></pre>
<p>However, this doesn't touch the middle of sentences:</p>
<pre><code>These are some sentence words (see Section X.Y.Z) about some stuff you should probably do.
</code></pre>
<p>Suggestions welcome for the semicolon form of that.</p>
<p>There are other cases that don't quite seem to fit with semicolons, as well:</p>
<pre><code>- write data, understanding when stream flow control credit
  ({{data-flow-control}}) has successfully been reserved to send the written
  data;
- end the stream (clean termination), resulting in a STREAM frame
  ({{frame-stream}}) with the FIN bit set; and
- reset the stream (abrupt termination), resulting in a RESET_STREAM frame
  ({{frame-reset-stream}}), if the stream was not already in a terminal state.
</code></pre>
<p>and this seems like it wouldn't want to split between two different styles:</p>
<pre><code>This section describes streams in terms of their send or receive components.
Two state machines are described: one for the streams on which an endpoint
transmits data ({{stream-send-states}}), and another for streams on which an
endpoint receives data ({{stream-recv-states}}).
</code></pre>
<p>One last example for this one:</p>
<pre><code>A receiver sets initial credits for all streams by sending transport parameters
during the handshake ({{transport-parameters}}).  A receiver sends
MAX_STREAM_DATA ({{frame-max-stream-data}}) or MAX_DATA ({{frame-max-data}})
frames to the sender to advertise additional credit.
</code></pre>
<p>And, finally, direct references without "see" too:</p>
<pre><code>as a connection error of type STREAM_LIMIT_ERROR (Section X.Y.Z).
</code></pre>
<p>vs.</p>
<pre><code>as a connection error of type STREAM_LIMIT_ERROR; Section X.Y.Z.
</code></pre>
<p>So, for now, I've changed all of the "see Section X.Y.Z" form to use semicolons, as they were pretty split between the two already.</p>
<p>Either way we choose, happy to switch this up to match (it's not consistent either way, so no matter what a change is necessary), so this PR can be used to go in either direction.</p>

<hr>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
<ul>
  <li>Unify on semicolon</li>
</ul>

<h4>File Changes</h4>
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  <li>
    <strong>M</strong>
    <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3591/files#diff-db016291106766877c4921a79f8596e0">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>
    (158)
  </li>
</ul>

<h4>Patch Links:</h4>
<ul>
  <li><a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3591.patch'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3591.patch</a></li>
  <li><a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3591.diff'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3591.diff</a></li>
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
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  Changed paths:
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We've been working toward this piecemeal.  This helps a lot.



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<p>We've been working toward this piecemeal.  This helps a lot.</p>

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If we're going in this direction, we should update the other drafts as well(in subsequent PRs).  I'm a fan of parens myself, but it's a bikeshed and I don't care that much.

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<p>If we're going in this direction, we should update the other drafts as well(in subsequent PRs).  I'm a fan of parens myself, but it's a bikeshed and I don't care that much.</p>

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> @@ -6170,10 +6170,22 @@ considered separately.
 ### Handshake {#handshake-properties}
 
 The QUIC handshake incorporates the TLS 1.3 handshake and enjoys the

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3587#discussion_r412299722">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
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 The QUIC handshake incorporates the TLS 1.3 handshake and enjoys the
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> @@ -6170,10 +6170,22 @@ considered separately.
 ### Handshake {#handshake-properties}
 
 The QUIC handshake incorporates the TLS 1.3 handshake and enjoys the

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3587#discussion_r412299662">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
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 ### Handshake {#handshake-properties}
 
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I'm fine with leaving the parens mid-sentence.  To me, the distinction is whether they're providing extra information about the entire sentence, or about a specific term in the sentence.  If it's about a specific term, use parens immediately after the term; if it's about the sentence in general, use a semicolon after the sentence.

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> @@ -6170,10 +6170,22 @@ considered separately.
 ### Handshake {#handshake-properties}
 
 The QUIC handshake incorporates the TLS 1.3 handshake and enjoys the

I don't really feel strongly about it. This is the text that 8446 uses (See S 8.1), so it's not tongue in cheek. I prefer "inherits" if that's accurate.


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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3587#discussion_r412478425">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
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 ### Handshake {#handshake-properties}
 
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> @@ -6170,10 +6170,22 @@ considered separately.
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I also don't really care, we can keep it as is.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3587#discussion_r412494830">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: 936c5a0abb73827453297e9c6af5326ac80763bc
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/936c5a0abb73827453297e9c6af5326ac80763bc
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-04-15 (Wed, 15 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Test for an alternative format

For describing packet and frame layouts.  Prototype in the transport
doc only.

Not sure if this is worth pursuing, but it closes #3115 if it does.


  Commit: cb4c268a1ce23a3ad3c593c64e17a9d365fa2c62
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/cb4c268a1ce23a3ad3c593c64e17a9d365fa2c62
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-04-15 (Wed, 15 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Some more formalism


  Commit: 50a1c5f24c9a9a3dae60282dbc8010d61ac187d7
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/50a1c5f24c9a9a3dae60282dbc8010d61ac187d7
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-04-15 (Wed, 15 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Refinements


  Commit: fcdd2fa0265be10914c0ef84c9818497f48ac953
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/fcdd2fa0265be10914c0ef84c9818497f48ac953
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-04-15 (Wed, 15 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  One fewer line


  Commit: 1bf2dc3301734962ac02b4ba64f481451d00c14e
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1bf2dc3301734962ac02b4ba64f481451d00c14e
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-04-15 (Wed, 15 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Follow own conventions


  Commit: ac1f3ac831e16b62f0883fa9b25acf5da8eba2a5
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ac1f3ac831e16b62f0883fa9b25acf5da8eba2a5
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-04-15 (Wed, 15 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Refine format syntax more


  Commit: 44e37af7f673f81651dc2590799f34de8577154a
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/44e37af7f673f81651dc2590799f34de8577154a
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-04-15 (Wed, 15 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Apply the new format throughout


  Commit: 3223ae2141a4f1373378ec99ed22dbb266999b85
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3223ae2141a4f1373378ec99ed22dbb266999b85
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-04-15 (Wed, 15 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Use length instead of len now that there is room


  Commit: 4cc5359be9ce099d15e5a344c22278c0a38eaac8
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4cc5359be9ce099d15e5a344c22278c0a38eaac8
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-04-15 (Wed, 15 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Batch of code review suggestions

Co-Authored-By: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
Co-Authored-By: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
Co-Authored-By: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>


  Commit: 68ccc047f48e2dff3ca1fe595cbf32e1abc2d261
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/68ccc047f48e2dff3ca1fe595cbf32e1abc2d261
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-04-15 (Wed, 15 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Rewrap


  Commit: 4c0abcff58fa163d3a506c592a89f6e8b41789d0
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4c0abcff58fa163d3a506c592a89f6e8b41789d0
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-04-15 (Wed, 15 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Remove parenthesized letters from bit notation


  Commit: 4d4701548ea1d9f18140e89a1114c003b4af79ed
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4d4701548ea1d9f18140e89a1114c003b4af79ed
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-04-15 (Wed, 15 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Consistent naming for _BLOCKED fields

Closes #3579.


  Commit: 82bcaff60bf2d6725da5d1c1f628fb510ebdae7f
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/82bcaff60bf2d6725da5d1c1f628fb510ebdae7f
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-04-16 (Thu, 16 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md

  Log Message:
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  Notpayload

Co-Authored-By: Lucas Pardue <lucaspardue.24.7@gmail.com>


  Commit: f746d7f956d321e1fdb5decae711bd3360a6ac46
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f746d7f956d321e1fdb5decae711bd3360a6ac46
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-04-16 (Thu, 16 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md

  Log Message:
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  Define the SETTINGS frame properly


  Commit: e05726eb06f6ea4b94991b71305cfd6c4feff9e5
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e05726eb06f6ea4b94991b71305cfd6c4feff9e5
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-04-20 (Mon, 20 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #3584 from quicwg/blocked-frame-limit-names

Consistent naming for _BLOCKED fields


  Commit: aa60cc1879ae4569ac063da9d3c21b49abfc4673
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/aa60cc1879ae4569ac063da9d3c21b49abfc4673
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-04-22 (Wed, 22 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #3573 from quicwg/alternative-format

Alternative packet format presentation


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/757a202326e3...aa60cc1879ae


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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: 3008ca37d95858b854becef833957a150e602abb
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3008ca37d95858b854becef833957a150e602abb
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  Changed paths:
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  Add subsections to Retry packet section

This was getting a little long.  You could get lost in there.

The text was fine, it was mostly well structured.  All it needed was one
small move and some headers.


  Commit: f54003133dec2383d116c775451f48aa0bb604d0
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  Continuation does not imply completion

Co-Authored-By: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>


  Commit: 8fac2f26b8ba6fefb3ef58d194a6900c37887a6c
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  Merge pull request #3570 from quicwg/retry-split

Add subsections to Retry packet section


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/1e4f3f5057c9...8fac2f26b8ba


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Merged #3570 into master.

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  Describe what happens if TLS breaks

We don't ever really say that QUIC depends on TLS providing the
properties that we claim TLS provides.  So it's worth pointing that
exposure.  This is more so because some of the properties we claim are
dependent on these properties.

Closes #3512.


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  Merge pull request #3587 from quicwg/hs-mitm

Describe what happens if TLS breaks


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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: 1f12b18593747047824b01fd9b5f05c802615a89
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-04-08 (Wed, 08 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  Text on session resumption

In looking at #3028, I realized that we had nowhere that addressed the
basic concept of resumption.  This is, I hope, all that we need to say
on the subject.  It talks about state and then the privacy implications
of using resumption.

I found less in the TLS 1.3 RFC on this subject than I might have liked
to see.  It only really addressed ticket reuse.  So this is a little
more verbose than is ideal.

Closes #3028.


  Commit: b51c50467f9d19e5acc1ded87db2cc322b41e57e
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  Date:   2020-04-08 (Wed, 08 Apr 2020)

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  Log Message:
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  Add a note to security considerations


  Commit: 46ee3b6c79fed064878fd43d265c78150a4bf70e
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  Log Message:
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  Tweak intro to security considerations


  Commit: 4c97d9544a49868c3043177312b3cd97a41d5321
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  Date:   2020-04-09 (Thu, 09 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  speling

Co-Authored-By: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>


  Commit: c0ad8f5fa424a23921dbbf33ae76477945b299ce
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  Date:   2020-04-14 (Tue, 14 Apr 2020)

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  plural

Co-Authored-By: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>


  Commit: bdbfb41d4ef175c3cd46cc9b952b9c6f6886395f
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-04-22 (Wed, 22 Apr 2020)

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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #3566 from quicwg/resumption

Text on session resumption


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I have experiments ongoing, but they're waiting on a Chrome rollout, so I'm happy with this being parked or otherwise not delaying WGLC.

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<p>I have experiments ongoing, but they're waiting on a Chrome rollout, so I'm happy with this being parked or otherwise not delaying WGLC.</p>

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>  
-In order to assist loss detection at the sender, an endpoint SHOULD send an ACK
+An ACK frame SHOULD be generated for at least every tenth ack-eliciting

We saw no appreciable benefit for RTT>>ACK_Delay, however this really does seem good practice, and our draft (draft-fairhurst-quic-ack-scaling) proposes this change:
      The receiver can provide a higher rate of acknowledge for the
      first 100 ACK-eliciting packets, where it acknowledges at least
      every second received ACK-eliciting packet.  A suitable method
      might send an ACK frame for every two received ack-eliciting
      packets for the first 100 received packets if max_ack_delay time
      has passed since the oldest unacknowledged data was received.
Would that resolve that point?


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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3501#discussion_r412811613">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  
-In order to assist loss detection at the sender, an endpoint SHOULD send an ACK
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<p>We saw no appreciable benefit for RTT&gt;&gt;ACK_Delay, however this really does seem good practice, and our draft (draft-fairhurst-quic-ack-scaling) proposes this change:<br>
The receiver can provide a higher rate of acknowledge for the<br>
first 100 ACK-eliciting packets, where it acknowledges at least<br>
every second received ACK-eliciting packet.  A suitable method<br>
might send an ACK frame for every two received ack-eliciting<br>
packets for the first 100 received packets if max_ack_delay time<br>
has passed since the oldest unacknowledged data was received.<br>
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> @@ -245,6 +245,13 @@ QUIC specifies a time-based definition to ensure one or more packets are sent
 prior to a dramatic decrease in congestion window; see
 {{persistent-congestion}}.
 
+### Increase the min congestion window to 2 packets
+
+QUIC recommends a minimum congestion window of 2 packets instead of TCP's 1.
+2 packets avoid waiting for a delayed acknowledgement and allow the PTO to
+send 2 packets instead of 1, which can be particularly important during the

I see this as a more fundamental deviation to TCP than other changes, because although it will have some performance benefit in common cases, it also changes the flow aggressiveness in cases of extreme overload. As I udnerstand, the basis of TCP's back-off is that it scales back cwnd to 1 MSS, and then should scale back in the interval between sending 1 MSS (fractional MSS). If QUIC has a minimum of 2*MSS in QUIC, does it immediately change to 2*RTT interval, otherwise this appears to be significantly more aggressive flow under congestion collapse?

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3586#discussion_r412816589">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -245,6 +245,13 @@ QUIC specifies a time-based definition to ensure one or more packets are sent
 prior to a dramatic decrease in congestion window; see
 {{persistent-congestion}}.
 
+### Increase the min congestion window to 2 packets
+
+QUIC recommends a minimum congestion window of 2 packets instead of TCP&#39;s 1.
+2 packets avoid waiting for a delayed acknowledgement and allow the PTO to
+send 2 packets instead of 1, which can be particularly important during the
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<p>I see this as a more fundamental deviation to TCP than other changes, because although it will have some performance benefit in common cases, it also changes the flow aggressiveness in cases of extreme overload. As I udnerstand, the basis of TCP's back-off is that it scales back cwnd to 1 MSS, and then should scale back in the interval between sending 1 MSS (fractional MSS). If QUIC has a minimum of 2<em>MSS in QUIC, does it immediately change to 2</em>RTT interval, otherwise this appears to be significantly more aggressive flow under congestion collapse?</p>

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Probably it would be good to have a more general section on service discovery and point to the HTTP/3 doc as one example.

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> +information (see [PETAL]).
+
+## Memory Consumption
+
+An attacker can try to cause an endpoint to exhaust its memory. QPACK is
+designed to limit both the peak and stable amounts of memory allocated by an
+endpoint.
+
+The amount of memory used by the compressor is limited by the protocol using
+QPACK through the definition of the maximum size of the dynamic table, and the
+maximum number of blocking streams. In HTTP/3, these values are controlled by
+the decoder through the setting parameter SETTINGS_QPACK_MAX_TABLE_CAPACITY and
+SETTINGS_QPACK_BLOCKED_STREAMS, respectively (see
+{{maximum-dynamic-table-capacity}} and {{blocked-streams}}). The limit on the
+size of the dynamic table takes into account both the size of the data stored in
+the dynamic table, plus a small allowance for overhead.  The limit on the number

"both" does not flow well with "plus".  Either s/", plus"/" and"/, or remove "both".

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3575#discussion_r412986533">draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +information (see [PETAL]).
+
+## Memory Consumption
+
+An attacker can try to cause an endpoint to exhaust its memory. QPACK is
+designed to limit both the peak and stable amounts of memory allocated by an
+endpoint.
+
+The amount of memory used by the compressor is limited by the protocol using
+QPACK through the definition of the maximum size of the dynamic table, and the
+maximum number of blocking streams. In HTTP/3, these values are controlled by
+the decoder through the setting parameter SETTINGS_QPACK_MAX_TABLE_CAPACITY and
+SETTINGS_QPACK_BLOCKED_STREAMS, respectively (see
+{{maximum-dynamic-table-capacity}} and {{blocked-streams}}). The limit on the
+size of the dynamic table takes into account both the size of the data stored in
+the dynamic table, plus a small allowance for overhead.  The limit on the number
</pre>
<p>"both" does not flow well with "plus".  Either s/", plus"/" and"/, or remove "both".</p>

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This has already been done at #3119 but somehow got reverted.
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  * Change one stray HTTP_NO_ERROR to H3_NO_ERROR.

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    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (2)

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<p>This has already been done at <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="508746848" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3119" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3119/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3119">#3119</a> but somehow got reverted.</p>

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  <li>Change one stray HTTP_NO_ERROR to H3_NO_ERROR.</li>
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The draft exists and is being worked on in the HTTP WG.  If that is close to completion, a reference from HTTP/3 seems like it would fix this.  However, I think the intent of parking is to signal that we don't plan to wait for that draft if it's not done.

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I'm of the opinion that this doesn't belong in HTTP/3 if it hasn't been defined by the HTTP WG before we ship (and it won't be).  If/when this takes shape, it will probably be as an extension to HTTP/2 and HTTP/3, and that's okay.

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+1 that this should become an extension and doesn't belong in HTTP/3.

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<p>+1 that this should become an extension and doesn't belong in HTTP/3.</p>

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Just leave it parked for now. It is still an issue for QUIC.

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<p>Just leave it parked for now. It is still an issue for QUIC.</p>

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This came up in interop testing.  This mode causes the TLS stack to generate a ChangeCipherSpec message, which caused our server to crash.  That's a bug on our end, but it's still a problem.

We need to decide whether this mode is acceptable.  Right now, we only say that it is "redundant".  A prohibition this mode would be easier all around.  It would avoid spending 32 bytes for both endpoints too.

Unfortunately, this is a design change.

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<p>This came up in interop testing.  This mode causes the TLS stack to generate a ChangeCipherSpec message, which caused our server to crash.  That's a bug on our end, but it's still a problem.</p>
<p>We need to decide whether this mode is acceptable.  Right now, we only say that it is "redundant".  A prohibition this mode would be easier all around.  It would avoid spending 32 bytes for both endpoints too.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, this is a design change.</p>

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I'm not sure what this change would get us. Isn't it simpler to ignore CCS on receipt instead of requiring the receiver to check for CCS and fail the handshake?

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<p>I'm not sure what this change would get us. Isn't it simpler to ignore CCS on receipt instead of requiring the receiver to check for CCS and fail the handshake?</p>

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Closes #3594.
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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3595

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  * Prohibit TLS 1.3 middlebox compatibility mode

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    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md (26)

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<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3594.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="605113856" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3594" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3594/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3594">#3594</a>.</p>

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So yes, one answer is to ignore it and move on.  But we should say that and require that implementations do so.

The answer I prefer is prohibition.  This is wasted bytes.

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<p>So yes, one answer is to ignore it and move on.  But we should say that and require that implementations do so.</p>
<p>The answer I prefer is prohibition.  This is wasted bytes.</p>

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If this were purely a QUIC matter, I would agree. This one is slightly trickier because it puts additional requirements on TLS stacks and not all QUIC implementers control their TLS stack. Additionally, is this a principled approach? Should we also be banning TLS padding (RFC7685) because it is similarly redundant?

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<p>If this were purely a QUIC matter, I would agree. This one is slightly trickier because it puts additional requirements on TLS stacks and not all QUIC implementers control their TLS stack. Additionally, is this a principled approach? Should we also be banning TLS padding (RFC7685) because it is similarly redundant?</p>

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Practical question: Is there anyone for whom this restriction would be onerous?

Ideally there would be a day we'd be able to get rid of compatibility mode for TLS 1.3 entirely, so prohibiting it from QUIC seems like the first step.  As a corollary, it seems like TLS implementations should have a knob to enable/disable it, otherwise compatibility mode becomes the de-facto only mode.

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<p>Practical question: Is there anyone for whom this restriction would be onerous?</p>
<p>Ideally there would be a day we'd be able to get rid of compatibility mode for TLS 1.3 entirely, so prohibiting it from QUIC seems like the first step.  As a corollary, it seems like TLS implementations should have a knob to enable/disable it, otherwise compatibility mode becomes the de-facto only mode.</p>

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Our client has a switch that defaults to off.  Apparently picotls had no switch, but @kazuho already [fixed it](https://github.com/h2o/picotls/pull/305).

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<p>Our client has a switch that defaults to off.  Apparently picotls had no switch, but <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/kazuho/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/kazuho">@kazuho</a> already <a href="https://github.com/h2o/picotls/pull/305" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/h2o/picotls/pull/305/hovercard">fixed it</a>.</p>

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Mike's rationale is excellent.  Though I would add that the good practice of one concept per sentence leads to using a semicolon more often than not.

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Just to be clear, picotls has had the switch, but it has been sending a 32-byte legacy_session_id even when the switch was off. That was a violation of a MUST in RFC 8446, purely implementation bug.

@DavidSchinazi 
> I'm not sure what this change would get us. Isn't it simpler to ignore CCS on receipt instead of requiring the receiver to check for CCS and fail the handshake?

In QUIC, it is impossible to send CCS, because the CRYPTO streams of QUIC can only carry handshake messages. CSS is not a handshake message, it's a TLS record. Therefore, it is my understanding that this issue is an editorial clarification.

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<p>Just to be clear, picotls has had the switch, but it has been sending a 32-byte legacy_session_id even when the switch was off. That was a violation of a MUST in RFC 8446, purely implementation bug.</p>
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<p>I'm not sure what this change would get us. Isn't it simpler to ignore CCS on receipt instead of requiring the receiver to check for CCS and fail the handshake?</p>
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<p>In QUIC, it is impossible to send CCS, because the CRYPTO streams of QUIC can only carry handshake messages. CSS is not a handshake message, it's a TLS record. Therefore, it is my understanding that this issue is an editorial clarification.</p>

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> @@ -1631,6 +1632,21 @@ PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.
 As a result, EndOfEarlyData does not appear in the TLS handshake transcript.
 
 
+## Prohibit TLS Middlebox Compatibility Mode {#compat-mode}
+
+Appendix D.4 of {{!TLS13}} describes an alteration to the TLS 1.3 handshake as
+a workaround for bugs in some middleboxes. The TLS 1.3 middlebox compatibility
+mode involves setting the legacy_session_id field to a 32-byte value in the
+ClientHello and ServerHello, then sending a change_cipher_spec record. Both
+field and record carry no semantic content and are ignored.
+
+This mode has no use in QUIC as it only applies to middleboxes that interfere
+with TLS over TCP. A client MUST NOT request the use of the TLS 1.3
+compatibility mode. A server MUST treat the receipt of a TLS ClientHello that
+requests the use of the TLS 1.3 middlebox compatibility mode as a connection
+error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.

Use of MUST NOT for client is fine, but I would prefer using SHOULD or MAY on the server-side.

In a server-side TLS 1.3 stack, it is entirely reasonable to implement Compatibility Mode at the record layer in a reactive manner. In your record layer, when you receive the handshake traffic secret from the handshake layer, you inject CCS depending on the length of SH.legacy_session_id that has been retained.

Use of MUST NOT for the server breaks TLS stacks implemented that way.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3595#discussion_r413494842">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1631,6 +1632,21 @@ PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.
 As a result, EndOfEarlyData does not appear in the TLS handshake transcript.
 
 
+## Prohibit TLS Middlebox Compatibility Mode {#compat-mode}
+
+Appendix D.4 of {{!TLS13}} describes an alteration to the TLS 1.3 handshake as
+a workaround for bugs in some middleboxes. The TLS 1.3 middlebox compatibility
+mode involves setting the legacy_session_id field to a 32-byte value in the
+ClientHello and ServerHello, then sending a change_cipher_spec record. Both
+field and record carry no semantic content and are ignored.
+
+This mode has no use in QUIC as it only applies to middleboxes that interfere
+with TLS over TCP. A client MUST NOT request the use of the TLS 1.3
+compatibility mode. A server MUST treat the receipt of a TLS ClientHello that
+requests the use of the TLS 1.3 middlebox compatibility mode as a connection
+error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.
</pre>
<p>Use of MUST NOT for client is fine, but I would prefer using SHOULD or MAY on the server-side.</p>
<p>In a server-side TLS 1.3 stack, it is entirely reasonable to implement Compatibility Mode at the record layer in a reactive manner. In your record layer, when you receive the handshake traffic secret from the handshake layer, you inject CCS depending on the length of SH.legacy_session_id that has been retained.</p>
<p>Use of MUST NOT for the server breaks TLS stacks implemented that way.</p>

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> @@ -1631,6 +1632,21 @@ PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.
 As a result, EndOfEarlyData does not appear in the TLS handshake transcript.
 
 
+## Prohibit TLS Middlebox Compatibility Mode {#compat-mode}
+
+Appendix D.4 of {{!TLS13}} describes an alteration to the TLS 1.3 handshake as
+a workaround for bugs in some middleboxes. The TLS 1.3 middlebox compatibility
+mode involves setting the legacy_session_id field to a 32-byte value in the
+ClientHello and ServerHello, then sending a change_cipher_spec record. Both
+field and record carry no semantic content and are ignored.
+
+This mode has no use in QUIC as it only applies to middleboxes that interfere
+with TLS over TCP. A client MUST NOT request the use of the TLS 1.3
+compatibility mode. A server MUST treat the receipt of a TLS ClientHello that
+requests the use of the TLS 1.3 middlebox compatibility mode as a connection
+error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.

> In your record layer, when you receive the handshake traffic secret from the handshake layer, you inject CCS depending on the length of SH.legacy_session_id that has been retained. At the moment, there's nothing that has to be done at the handshake layer on the server-side.

Assume that you're not validating the empty `legacy_session_id` on the server side, how would you prevent the injection of CCS then?

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3595#discussion_r413577840">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1631,6 +1632,21 @@ PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.
 As a result, EndOfEarlyData does not appear in the TLS handshake transcript.
 
 
+## Prohibit TLS Middlebox Compatibility Mode {#compat-mode}
+
+Appendix D.4 of {{!TLS13}} describes an alteration to the TLS 1.3 handshake as
+a workaround for bugs in some middleboxes. The TLS 1.3 middlebox compatibility
+mode involves setting the legacy_session_id field to a 32-byte value in the
+ClientHello and ServerHello, then sending a change_cipher_spec record. Both
+field and record carry no semantic content and are ignored.
+
+This mode has no use in QUIC as it only applies to middleboxes that interfere
+with TLS over TCP. A client MUST NOT request the use of the TLS 1.3
+compatibility mode. A server MUST treat the receipt of a TLS ClientHello that
+requests the use of the TLS 1.3 middlebox compatibility mode as a connection
+error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.
</pre>
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<p>In your record layer, when you receive the handshake traffic secret from the handshake layer, you inject CCS depending on the length of SH.legacy_session_id that has been retained. At the moment, there's nothing that has to be done at the handshake layer on the server-side.</p>
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<p>Assume that you're not validating the empty <code>legacy_session_id</code> on the server side, how would you prevent the injection of CCS then?</p>

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> @@ -1631,6 +1632,21 @@ PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.
 As a result, EndOfEarlyData does not appear in the TLS handshake transcript.
 
 
+## Prohibit TLS Middlebox Compatibility Mode {#compat-mode}
+
+Appendix D.4 of {{!TLS13}} describes an alteration to the TLS 1.3 handshake as
+a workaround for bugs in some middleboxes. The TLS 1.3 middlebox compatibility
+mode involves setting the legacy_session_id field to a 32-byte value in the
+ClientHello and ServerHello, then sending a change_cipher_spec record. Both
+field and record carry no semantic content and are ignored.
+
+This mode has no use in QUIC as it only applies to middleboxes that interfere
+with TLS over TCP. A client MUST NOT request the use of the TLS 1.3
+compatibility mode. A server MUST treat the receipt of a TLS ClientHello that
+requests the use of the TLS 1.3 middlebox compatibility mode as a connection
+error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.

I can do SHOULD.

The way our stack works is that we let TLS consume the ClientHello and then ask it for a response.  That produces a CCS if the client asked for one.  We turn that into an error (we used to crash).  Any implementation could, as I think Kazuho suggests, just drop the CCS, which might be easier in cases where your interface only passes handshake records.  We have a generic record callback, so detecting record type 20 is easy.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3595#discussion_r413593052">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1631,6 +1632,21 @@ PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.
 As a result, EndOfEarlyData does not appear in the TLS handshake transcript.
 
 
+## Prohibit TLS Middlebox Compatibility Mode {#compat-mode}
+
+Appendix D.4 of {{!TLS13}} describes an alteration to the TLS 1.3 handshake as
+a workaround for bugs in some middleboxes. The TLS 1.3 middlebox compatibility
+mode involves setting the legacy_session_id field to a 32-byte value in the
+ClientHello and ServerHello, then sending a change_cipher_spec record. Both
+field and record carry no semantic content and are ignored.
+
+This mode has no use in QUIC as it only applies to middleboxes that interfere
+with TLS over TCP. A client MUST NOT request the use of the TLS 1.3
+compatibility mode. A server MUST treat the receipt of a TLS ClientHello that
+requests the use of the TLS 1.3 middlebox compatibility mode as a connection
+error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.
</pre>
<p>I can do SHOULD.</p>
<p>The way our stack works is that we let TLS consume the ClientHello and then ask it for a response.  That produces a CCS if the client asked for one.  We turn that into an error (we used to crash).  Any implementation could, as I think Kazuho suggests, just drop the CCS, which might be easier in cases where your interface only passes handshake records.  We have a generic record callback, so detecting record type 20 is easy.</p>

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Should we use a more specific error code than PROTOCOL_VIOLATION? Something in the 0x1XX range?

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<p>Should we use a more specific error code than PROTOCOL_VIOLATION? Something in the 0x1XX range?</p>

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Just to close the loop (and discuss on the issue): Having a SHOULD on the server reaction is fine with me.

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<p>Just to close the loop (and discuss on the issue): Having a SHOULD on the server reaction is fine with me.</p>

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I couldn't see something more applicable.  You could fall back to a generic TLS alert, like handshake_failure, but the error is really a QUIC one.

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<p>I couldn't see something more applicable.  You could fall back to a generic TLS alert, like handshake_failure, but the error is really a QUIC one.</p>

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@marten-seemann 
> Assume that you're not validating the empty legacy_session_id on the server side, how would you prevent the injection of CCS then?

As @martinthomson says, our code that emits ChangeCipherSpec would check if the underlying protocol is the TLS record protocol. If that's something else, a TLS alert is generated. See https://github.com/h2o/picotls/blob/master/lib/picotls.c#L1480-L1484.

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> You could fall back to a generic TLS alert, like handshake_failure, but the error is really a QUIC one.

I'm not sure if I share that view. We already have certain requirements on how TLS is used, and we use TLS error codes to communicate errors (e.g., use of unexpected_message when a TLS Key Update message is received).

FWIW, the code above in picotls sends unexpected_message (I can change that for sure, I just merged it).

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<p>FWIW, the code above in picotls sends unexpected_message (I can change that for sure, I just merged it).</p>

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> the code above in picotls sends unexpected_message 

That seems fine, but in my view the fault was with the ClientHello, not the CCS.

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> That seems fine, but in my view the fault was with the ClientHello, not the CCS.

I agree that the fault is with ClientHello, it's merely a coincidence that we detect that problem when trying to build particular portion of the response. In case of picotls, return of this error will be propagated to the application alongside a partially built buffer, so QUIC stacks using picotls would just send the TLS error code.

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<p>I agree that the fault is with ClientHello, it's merely a coincidence that we detect that problem when trying to build particular portion of the response. In case of picotls, return of this error will be propagated to the application alongside a partially built buffer, so QUIC stacks using picotls would just send the TLS error code.</p>

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@ianswett approved this pull request.

I think this is slightly better, but I also don't think it matters that much?  If the packets were declared lost, they wouldn't be sent immediately due to the amplification limit, so I think either way works.

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<p><b>@ianswett</b> approved this pull request.</p>

<p>I think this is slightly better, but I also don't think it matters that much?  If the packets were declared lost, they wouldn't be sent immediately due to the amplification limit, so I think either way works.</p>
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There's conversation on the issue(https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3571#issuecomment-611350198) and Jana was concerned about adding another reference to RACK as well as recommending something that we don't have a detailed algorithm(and pseudocode) for.  In general, anything we have a SHOULD for has more text(and typically pseudocode) than this, so I accepted that point and adjusted the PR.  For example, the pseudocode doesn't detail how to detect spurious losses, since it's expected that could be fairly complex and implementation dependent.

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<p>There's conversation on the issue(<a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="596606492" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3571" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3571/hovercard?comment_id=611350198&amp;comment_type=issue_comment" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3571#issuecomment-611350198">#3571 (comment)</a>) and Jana was concerned about adding another reference to RACK as well as recommending something that we don't have a detailed algorithm(and pseudocode) for.  In general, anything we have a SHOULD for has more text(and typically pseudocode) than this, so I accepted that point and adjusted the PR.  For example, the pseudocode doesn't detail how to detect spurious losses, since it's expected that could be fairly complex and implementation dependent.</p>

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I don't expect most people to use this, and those that do(yes, that includes us) would likely want support in H2 and H3, so I'd prefer an extension for both H2 and H3.

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I see, thanks for pointing me to that. But Jana's ask seems to me to be all about SHOULD versus MAY, and orthogonal to referencing NCR vs RACK; if it was a SHOULD, then you'd still have the same incompletely-specified-algorithm problem with NCR. It seems to me that now that SHOULD is removed, Jana would agree that RACK is a better reference since it maps more cleanly to QUIC.

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<p>I see, thanks for pointing me to that. But Jana's ask seems to me to be all about SHOULD versus MAY, and orthogonal to referencing NCR vs RACK; if it was a SHOULD, then you'd still have the same incompletely-specified-algorithm problem with NCR. It seems to me that now that SHOULD is removed, Jana would agree that RACK is a better reference since it maps more cleanly to QUIC.</p>

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Actually, I'm not so confident that RACK maps all that cleanly either, and Jana made the point that RACK's ReoWnd adjustment algorithm hasn't been closely examined, so I'm going to bow out here- I'm happy with either NCR or RACK.

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> @@ -245,6 +245,13 @@ QUIC specifies a time-based definition to ensure one or more packets are sent
 prior to a dramatic decrease in congestion window; see
 {{persistent-congestion}}.
 
+### Increase the min congestion window to 2 packets
+
+QUIC recommends a minimum congestion window of 2 packets instead of TCP's 1.
+2 packets avoid waiting for a delayed acknowledgement and allow the PTO to
+send 2 packets instead of 1, which can be particularly important during the

I'd expect congestion collapse to be dominated by the PTO response, not the CWND.

I'm not aware of efforts to do fractional MSS in common use.  Do you have a reference for that?

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3586#discussion_r414026473">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -245,6 +245,13 @@ QUIC specifies a time-based definition to ensure one or more packets are sent
 prior to a dramatic decrease in congestion window; see
 {{persistent-congestion}}.
 
+### Increase the min congestion window to 2 packets
+
+QUIC recommends a minimum congestion window of 2 packets instead of TCP&#39;s 1.
+2 packets avoid waiting for a delayed acknowledgement and allow the PTO to
+send 2 packets instead of 1, which can be particularly important during the
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<p>I'd expect congestion collapse to be dominated by the PTO response, not the CWND.</p>
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  Branch: refs/heads/qpack/core_terminology
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  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-04-23 (Thu, 23 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md

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Q: I assume the server sent and the client received server_initial#0 as well in this example?

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> When ack-eliciting packets are in-flight in multiple packet number spaces, the timer MUST be set for the packet number space with the earliest timeout, except for ApplicationData, which MUST be ignored until the handshake completes; see Section 4.1.1 of {{QUIC-TLS}}. Not arming the PTO for ApplicationData prevents a client from retransmitting a 0-RTT packet on a PTO expiration before confirming that the server is able to decrypt 0-RTT packets, and prevents a server from sending a 1-RTT packet on a PTO expiration before it has the keys to process an acknowledgement.

In this case, the text says to not arm PTO for ApplicationData until handshake complete and there's nothing in flight in Initial or Handshake, so I don't believe the PTO alarms should be set, so "server resent Handshake(server_handshake#1)" would never occur.

Admittedly, this text can be hard to read(it's certainly hard to write), so if you have any editorial suggestions, that'd be welcome.

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<p>Q: I assume the server sent and the client received server_initial#0 as well in this example?</p>
<p>The interesting text is:</p>
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<p>When ack-eliciting packets are in-flight in multiple packet number spaces, the timer MUST be set for the packet number space with the earliest timeout, except for ApplicationData, which MUST be ignored until the handshake completes; see Section 4.1.1 of {{QUIC-TLS}}. Not arming the PTO for ApplicationData prevents a client from retransmitting a 0-RTT packet on a PTO expiration before confirming that the server is able to decrypt 0-RTT packets, and prevents a server from sending a 1-RTT packet on a PTO expiration before it has the keys to process an acknowledgement.</p>
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<p>In this case, the text says to not arm PTO for ApplicationData until handshake complete and there's nothing in flight in Initial or Handshake, so I don't believe the PTO alarms should be set, so "server resent Handshake(server_handshake#1)" would never occur.</p>
<p>Admittedly, this text can be hard to read(it's certainly hard to write), so if you have any editorial suggestions, that'd be welcome.</p>

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In this case, I believe alternating is the right thing to do, because the server either has Handshake receive keys or 1-RTT receive keys, and the client doesn't know which.  Because of HANDSHAKE_DONE, the client will eventually complete the handshake and drop the Handshake PN space as long as the client's Handshake packet(containing the finished) gets to the server.

However, this case is an excellent motivation for this text:
> In addition to sending data in the packet number space for which the timer expired, the sender SHOULD send ack-eliciting packets from other packet number spaces with in-flight data, coalescing packets if possible.

This text was written prior to HANDSHAKE_DONE, but I think there may be other reasons to use handshake complete and not confirmed in this case, so I would be very hesitant to change it without a lot of consideration.

Is there a part of mozilla/neqo#448  I should focus on?  The text talks a lot about packets being marked as lost when the PTO timer fires, which makes me very confused, since QUIC doesn't mark packets as lost when the PTO fires.

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<p>In this case, I believe alternating is the right thing to do, because the server either has Handshake receive keys or 1-RTT receive keys, and the client doesn't know which.  Because of HANDSHAKE_DONE, the client will eventually complete the handshake and drop the Handshake PN space as long as the client's Handshake packet(containing the finished) gets to the server.</p>
<p>However, this case is an excellent motivation for this text:</p>
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<p>In addition to sending data in the packet number space for which the timer expired, the sender SHOULD send ack-eliciting packets from other packet number spaces with in-flight data, coalescing packets if possible.</p>
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<p>This text was written prior to HANDSHAKE_DONE, but I think there may be other reasons to use handshake complete and not confirmed in this case, so I would be very hesitant to change it without a lot of consideration.</p>
<p>Is there a part of <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="561930003" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/mozilla/neqo/issues/448" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/mozilla/neqo/pull/448/hovercard" href="https://github.com/mozilla/neqo/pull/448">mozilla/neqo#448</a>  I should focus on?  The text talks a lot about packets being marked as lost when the PTO timer fires, which makes me very confused, since QUIC doesn't mark packets as lost when the PTO fires.</p>

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Sending in multiple PN spaces on PTO is particularly useful when the peer only has receive keys for 1 pn space, and the you don't know which.

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Sending in multiple PN spaces on PTO is particularly useful when the peer only has receive keys for 1 pn space, and the you don&#39;t know which.

Fixes #3583
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<p>Sending in multiple PN spaces on PTO is particularly useful when the peer only has receive keys for 1 pn space, and the you don't know which.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3583.">Fixes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="600065212" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3583" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3583/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3583">#3583</a></p>

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This is going to further confuse things, given that HTTP denotes that colloquial term to mean something else.

Why don't you actually spell out what it means, and/or refer to HTTP?

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<p>This is going to further confuse things, given that HTTP denotes that colloquial term to mean something else.</p>
<p>Why don't you actually spell out what it means, and/or refer to HTTP?</p>

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So, you say "Header" here and "header and trailer" below -- again, a source of confusion / misreading.

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<p>So, you say "Header" here and "header and trailer" below -- again, a source of confusion / misreading.</p>

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This change only makes a difference if the server sent multiple Initial packets, and only some of them were acknowledged. In that case, you'd usually set an early retransmit timer. Of course, if you're amplification limited, you wouldn't be able to send out anything on timer expiration.

I don't think this makes a big difference in practice. I just found it easier to reason about the amplification limit this way: "If amplication limited, never set a timer."

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<p>This change only makes a difference if the server sent multiple Initial packets, and only some of them were acknowledged. In that case, you'd usually set an early retransmit timer. Of course, if you're amplification limited, you wouldn't be able to send out anything on timer expiration.</p>
<p>I don't think this makes a big difference in practice. I just found it easier to reason about the amplification limit this way: "If amplication limited, never set a timer."</p>

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Leaving aside that recommendation for the moment (which I agree is close to mandatory), the experience is pretty poor if there is only one key.  You just moved to a 4x exponent on the PTO timer rather than a 2x timer.  I guess that's why we have the recommendation.

(For reference, neqo tells the frame sending apparatus that it lost some data when a PTO timer fires.  That causes those older frames to be sent again rather than trying to find fresh data to send.  That's on the principle that older data is more important.  But that isn't relevant to this discussion.  The main comment to look at is [this one](https://github.com/mozilla/neqo/pull/448#issuecomment-590001888), which shows how the interleaving can be a little janky.)

I realize that we haven't reconciled this with the requirement not to arm the application data PTO when there are handshake/initial packets outstanding.  That might limit this to the one case of interleaving Initial and Handshake.

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<p>Leaving aside that recommendation for the moment (which I agree is close to mandatory), the experience is pretty poor if there is only one key.  You just moved to a 4x exponent on the PTO timer rather than a 2x timer.  I guess that's why we have the recommendation.</p>
<p>(For reference, neqo tells the frame sending apparatus that it lost some data when a PTO timer fires.  That causes those older frames to be sent again rather than trying to find fresh data to send.  That's on the principle that older data is more important.  But that isn't relevant to this discussion.  The main comment to look at is <a href="https://github.com/mozilla/neqo/pull/448#issuecomment-590001888" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/mozilla/neqo/pull/448/hovercard">this one</a>, which shows how the interleaving can be a little janky.)</p>
<p>I realize that we haven't reconciled this with the requirement not to arm the application data PTO when there are handshake/initial packets outstanding.  That might limit this to the one case of interleaving Initial and Handshake.</p>

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I guess that draft is draft-ietf-httpbis-priority? It seems to lack a milestone. 

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I'll park this for now. Please propose to unpark once you have data.

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transport-26 dropped this sentence, which was present up to -25:
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Don't we have private TPs anymore? Or is this due to an editing bug?

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It was modified in the fix that addressed [TPs are too constraining for innovation](https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3020)

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<p>It was modified in the fix that addressed <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3020" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3020/hovercard">TPs are too constraining for innovation</a></p>

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> Provisional registration of codepoints are intended to allow for **private use and experimentation** with extensions to QUIC. Provisional registrations only require the inclusion of the codepoint value and contact information. However, provisional registrations could be reclaimed and reassigned for another purpose.

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Right, but how to grease? Don't want to provisionally register for that?

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Greasing is still defined as it was.

Section 18.1:
> Transport parameters with an identifier of the form 31 * N + 27 for integer values of N are reserved to exercise the requirement that unknown transport parameters be ignored. These transport parameters have no semantics, and may carry arbitrary values.

Section 22.2:
> Additionally, each value of the format 31 * N + 27 for integer values of N (that is, 27, 58, 89, ...) are reserved and MUST NOT be assigned by IANA.

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<p>Greasing is still defined as it was.</p>
<p>Section 18.1:</p>
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<p>Transport parameters with an identifier of the form 31 * N + 27 for integer values of N are reserved to exercise the requirement that unknown transport parameters be ignored. These transport parameters have no semantics, and may carry arbitrary values.</p>
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<p>Section 22.2:</p>
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<p>Additionally, each value of the format 31 * N + 27 for integer values of N (that is, 27, 58, 89, ...) are reserved and MUST NOT be assigned by IANA.</p>
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Oh, I *totally* missed that change!

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<p>Oh, I <em>totally</em> missed that change!</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/version-negotiation
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  Date:   2020-04-24 (Fri, 24 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-version-negotiation.md

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  Fixed nit


  Commit: e0b5dedc1eebe2c9ff78600ec8334f94f87d4a8b
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  Merge pull request #7 from martinduke/patch-1

Fixed nit


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Yes, you move to 4x instead of 2x, but it's worth understanding what packets need to be lost for the 2x vs 4x to come into play.

1) The client's Handshake packet is lost twice in a row.  Not that unlikely, but it's known the Client Finished blocks the server from processing 1-RTT packets, so I think there's an understanding of its importance.
2) (case from this issue) The client's Handshake packet is delivered, but the ACK is lost so the client retransmits it then that packet is lost AND both the first HANDSHAKE_DONE packet and its retransmission are lost.

I'm sure there are many other permutations of these, but the first case seems a lot more likely than the second case.

In this case, the HANDSHAKE_DONE does a nice job of mitigating some potential issues.

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<p>Yes, you move to 4x instead of 2x, but it's worth understanding what packets need to be lost for the 2x vs 4x to come into play.</p>
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<li>The client's Handshake packet is lost twice in a row.  Not that unlikely, but it's known the Client Finished blocks the server from processing 1-RTT packets, so I think there's an understanding of its importance.</li>
<li>(case from this issue) The client's Handshake packet is delivered, but the ACK is lost so the client retransmits it then that packet is lost AND both the first HANDSHAKE_DONE packet and its retransmission are lost.</li>
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<p>I'm sure there are many other permutations of these, but the first case seems a lot more likely than the second case.</p>
<p>In this case, the HANDSHAKE_DONE does a nice job of mitigating some potential issues.</p>

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I think this is worth exploring. We can also run an experiment with a subset of our traffic, so that we can be sure this is at least neutral for our current deployment. I don't think we should ignore a major deployment's signal, as this will inevitably lead to people shipping this eventually as the de facto spec, similar to various TCPisms that are de facto standards.

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@gorryfair commented on this pull request.



> @@ -245,6 +245,13 @@ QUIC specifies a time-based definition to ensure one or more packets are sent
 prior to a dramatic decrease in congestion window; see
 {{persistent-congestion}}.
 
+### Increase the min congestion window to 2 packets
+
+QUIC recommends a minimum congestion window of 2 packets instead of TCP's 1.
+2 packets avoid waiting for a delayed acknowledgement and allow the PTO to
+send 2 packets instead of 1, which can be particularly important during the

Do we agree on what is intended by congestion-collapse, i.e. persistent long-lasting high level of congestion, as oppose to just "congestion"? (e.g. when there is a very low probability of a successful ACK). ... In will find something on reducing the MSS below once/RTT.

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<p><b>@gorryfair</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3586#discussion_r414997689">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -245,6 +245,13 @@ QUIC specifies a time-based definition to ensure one or more packets are sent
 prior to a dramatic decrease in congestion window; see
 {{persistent-congestion}}.
 
+### Increase the min congestion window to 2 packets
+
+QUIC recommends a minimum congestion window of 2 packets instead of TCP&#39;s 1.
+2 packets avoid waiting for a delayed acknowledgement and allow the PTO to
+send 2 packets instead of 1, which can be particularly important during the
</pre>
<p>Do we agree on what is intended by congestion-collapse, i.e. persistent long-lasting high level of congestion, as oppose to just "congestion"? (e.g. when there is a very low probability of a successful ACK). ... In will find something on reducing the MSS below once/RTT.</p>

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I'm going to mark this as v2 for now. We can unmark it if the HTTP work progresses faster than we do, and we decide to incorporate it in some way.

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If we want to have this impact QUICv1, we need data and a proposal in a relatively short timeframe. We're very close to being able to last-call the specs, and I don't want to delay that. So interested parties should prioritize this.

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<p>If we want to have this impact QUICv1, we need data and a proposal in a relatively short timeframe. We're very close to being able to last-call the specs, and I don't want to delay that. So interested parties should prioritize this.</p>

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This section was a holdover from when we had real version negotiation,
so it assumed a bunch of actions that don&#39;t really apply in the current
document.

This doesn&#39;t change what is permitted, but it reframes it a little.

Closes #3013.
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<p>This section was a holdover from when we had real version negotiation,<br>
so it assumed a bunch of actions that don't really apply in the current<br>
document.</p>
<p>This doesn't change what is permitted, but it reframes it a little.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3013.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="491515369" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3013" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3013/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3013">#3013</a>.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/cid-limit-flip
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-04-28 (Tue, 28 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Rationale for NEW_CONNECTION_ID processing order

We already had something here, but I think that it missed the central
reason, which is the combination of:

* wanting to replace all connection IDs
* having used the limit from active_connection_id_limit
* wanting to ensure that there is >= 1 available connection IDs left

This phrasing isn't quite that explicit, but I think that it is clear
enough.

Closes #3422.



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We already had something here, but I think that it missed the central
reason, which is the combination of:

* wanting to replace all connection IDs
* having used the limit from active_connection_id_limit
* wanting to ensure that there is &gt;= 1 available connection IDs left

This phrasing isn&#39;t quite that explicit, but I think that it is clear
enough.

Closes #3422.
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<p>We already had something here, but I think that it missed the central<br>
reason, which is the combination of:</p>
<ul>
<li>wanting to replace all connection IDs</li>
<li>having used the limit from active_connection_id_limit</li>
<li>wanting to ensure that there is &gt;= 1 available connection IDs left</li>
</ul>
<p>This phrasing isn't quite that explicit, but I think that it is clear<br>
enough.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3422.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="560360291" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3422" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3422/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3422">#3422</a>.</p>

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<p>Thank you for working on this. Looks good to me.</p>

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  Define the use of generic TLS alerts

This was already permitted by the transport document, but it was not
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This was already permitted by the transport document, but it was not
adequately explained.  The example that tripped us up was ALPN, which
has received a bit of attention here.

Closes #3580.
You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3601

-- Commit Summary --

  * Define the use of generic TLS alerts

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    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md (29)

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<p>This was already permitted by the transport document, but it was not<br>
adequately explained.  The example that tripped us up was ALPN, which<br>
has received a bit of attention here.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3580.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="599785247" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3580" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3580/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3580">#3580</a>.</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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@erickinnear approved this pull request.

Nice wording, looks good!



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<p><b>@erickinnear</b> approved this pull request.</p>

<p>Nice wording, looks good!</p>

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@kazuho commented on this pull request.



> @@ -1567,12 +1573,13 @@ QUIC requires that the cryptographic handshake provide authenticated protocol
 negotiation.  TLS uses Application Layer Protocol Negotiation (ALPN)
 {{!ALPN=RFC7301}} to select an application protocol.  Unless another mechanism
 is used for agreeing on an application protocol, endpoints MUST use ALPN for
-this purpose.  When using ALPN, endpoints MUST immediately close a connection
-(see Section 10.3 in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}) if an application protocol is not
-negotiated with a no_application_protocol TLS alert (QUIC error code 0x178, see
-{{tls-errors}}).  While {{!ALPN}} only specifies that servers use this alert,
-QUIC clients MUST also use it to terminate a connection when ALPN negotiation
-fails.
+this purpose.
+
+When using ALPN, endpoints MUST immediately close a connection (see Section
+10.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}) if an application protocol is not negotiated with a
+no_application_protocol TLS alert (QUIC error code 0x178, see {{tls-errors}}).
+While {{!ALPN}} only specifies that servers use this alert, QUIC clients MUST
+use error 0x178 to terminate a connection when ALPN negotiation fails.

Am I correct to read that this MUST requires a client that receives a no_application_protocol alert to respond with a no_application_protocol alert?

I am not sure if that aligns to what we have now. At the moment, the provisions that we have is that an endpoint that receives CONNECTION_CLOSE MAY respond with a CONNECTION_CLOSE, using NO_ERROR if appropriate (https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#section-10.3-7).

Based on that, I think what we need here is MAY rather than MUST, and think that NO_ERROR is more appropriate (assuming that we do not have a principle of an endpoint that receives a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame carrying an error echo the error code it has received). Or it might make sense to just drop the last sentence.

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<p><b>@kazuho</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3601#discussion_r416355333">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1567,12 +1573,13 @@ QUIC requires that the cryptographic handshake provide authenticated protocol
 negotiation.  TLS uses Application Layer Protocol Negotiation (ALPN)
 {{!ALPN=RFC7301}} to select an application protocol.  Unless another mechanism
 is used for agreeing on an application protocol, endpoints MUST use ALPN for
-this purpose.  When using ALPN, endpoints MUST immediately close a connection
-(see Section 10.3 in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}) if an application protocol is not
-negotiated with a no_application_protocol TLS alert (QUIC error code 0x178, see
-{{tls-errors}}).  While {{!ALPN}} only specifies that servers use this alert,
-QUIC clients MUST also use it to terminate a connection when ALPN negotiation
-fails.
+this purpose.
+
+When using ALPN, endpoints MUST immediately close a connection (see Section
+10.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}) if an application protocol is not negotiated with a
+no_application_protocol TLS alert (QUIC error code 0x178, see {{tls-errors}}).
+While {{!ALPN}} only specifies that servers use this alert, QUIC clients MUST
+use error 0x178 to terminate a connection when ALPN negotiation fails.
</pre>
<p>Am I correct to read that this MUST requires a client that receives a no_application_protocol alert to respond with a no_application_protocol alert?</p>
<p>I am not sure if that aligns to what we have now. At the moment, the provisions that we have is that an endpoint that receives CONNECTION_CLOSE MAY respond with a CONNECTION_CLOSE, using NO_ERROR if appropriate (<a href="https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#section-10.3-7" rel="nofollow">https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#section-10.3-7</a>).</p>
<p>Based on that, I think what we need here is MAY rather than MUST, and think that NO_ERROR is more appropriate (assuming that we do not have a principle of an endpoint that receives a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame carrying an error echo the error code it has received). Or it might make sense to just drop the last sentence.</p>

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The text looks good.  It looks like the pseudo code does not capture it though.  Currently, it says:

```py
  if (no ack-eliciting packets in flight &&
      PeerCompletedAddressValidation()):
```

There is no condition to check handshake completion there.  I'm not sure how the pseudo code should be precise in this regard.


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<p>The text looks good.  It looks like the pseudo code does not capture it though.  Currently, it says:</p>
<div class="highlight highlight-source-python"><pre>  <span class="pl-k">if</span> (no ack<span class="pl-k">-</span>eliciting packets <span class="pl-k">in</span> flight <span class="pl-ii">&amp;&amp;</span>
      PeerCompletedAddressValidation()):</pre></div>
<p>There is no condition to check handshake completion there.  I'm not sure how the pseudo code should be precise in this regard.</p>

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Since this is a design issue, we'll run this through the Late-stage process and include it in the next consensus call. 

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<p>Since this is a design issue, we'll run this through the Late-stage process and include it in the next consensus call.</p>
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Since this is a design issue, we'll run this through the Late-stage process and include it in the next consensus call. 

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<p>Since this is a design issue, we'll run this through the Late-stage process and include it in the next consensus call.</p>
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Fixes #2817 
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  * editorial advice for h2&lt;-&gt;h3 error propagation

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    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (35)

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<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #2817.">Fixes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="458107043" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2817" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2817/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2817">#2817</a></p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>editorial advice for h2&lt;-&gt;h3 error propagation</li>
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> @@ -1343,16 +1343,15 @@ MUST NOT be used outside of draft implementations.
 ## Using Reserved Versions
 
 For a server to use a new version in the future, clients need to correctly
-handle unsupported versions. To help ensure this, a server SHOULD include a
-version that is reserved for forcing version negotiation (0x?a?a?a?a as defined
-in {{versions}}) when generating a Version Negotiation packet.
-
-The design of version negotiation permits a server to avoid maintaining state
-for packets that it rejects in this fashion.
-
-A client MAY send a packet using a version that is reserved for forcing version
-negotiation.  This can be used to solicit a list of supported versions from a
-server.
+handle unsupported versions. Some version numbers (0x?a?a?a?a as defined in
+{{versions}}) are reserved for inclusion in fields that contain version

Do we say elsewhere that reserved version numbers are never to be used as actual versions?

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3599#discussion_r416718903">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1343,16 +1343,15 @@ MUST NOT be used outside of draft implementations.
 ## Using Reserved Versions
 
 For a server to use a new version in the future, clients need to correctly
-handle unsupported versions. To help ensure this, a server SHOULD include a
-version that is reserved for forcing version negotiation (0x?a?a?a?a as defined
-in {{versions}}) when generating a Version Negotiation packet.
-
-The design of version negotiation permits a server to avoid maintaining state
-for packets that it rejects in this fashion.
-
-A client MAY send a packet using a version that is reserved for forcing version
-negotiation.  This can be used to solicit a list of supported versions from a
-server.
+handle unsupported versions. Some version numbers (0x?a?a?a?a as defined in
+{{versions}}) are reserved for inclusion in fields that contain version
</pre>
<p>Do we say elsewhere that reserved version numbers are never to be used as actual versions?</p>

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This is what the pseudocode says, but I couldn't find anywhere in the text that clarified that if there were no ack-eliciting packets to arm PTO from, use Now().



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This is what the pseudocode says, but I couldn&#39;t find anywhere in the text that clarified that if there were no ack-eliciting packets to arm PTO from, use Now().
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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3603

-- Commit Summary --

  * Clarify anti-deadlock Handshake PTO

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    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md (5)

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<p>This is what the pseudocode says, but I couldn't find anywhere in the text that clarified that if there were no ack-eliciting packets to arm PTO from, use Now().</p>

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  <li>Clarify anti-deadlock Handshake PTO</li>
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> @@ -1567,12 +1573,13 @@ QUIC requires that the cryptographic handshake provide authenticated protocol
 negotiation.  TLS uses Application Layer Protocol Negotiation (ALPN)
 {{!ALPN=RFC7301}} to select an application protocol.  Unless another mechanism
 is used for agreeing on an application protocol, endpoints MUST use ALPN for
-this purpose.  When using ALPN, endpoints MUST immediately close a connection
-(see Section 10.3 in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}) if an application protocol is not
-negotiated with a no_application_protocol TLS alert (QUIC error code 0x178, see
-{{tls-errors}}).  While {{!ALPN}} only specifies that servers use this alert,
-QUIC clients MUST also use it to terminate a connection when ALPN negotiation
-fails.
+this purpose.
+
+When using ALPN, endpoints MUST immediately close a connection (see Section
+10.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}) if an application protocol is not negotiated with a
+no_application_protocol TLS alert (QUIC error code 0x178, see {{tls-errors}}).
+While {{!ALPN}} only specifies that servers use this alert, QUIC clients MUST
+use error 0x178 to terminate a connection when ALPN negotiation fails.

I think this is intended to apply to the case when a server does not include an ALPN extension.  If the client receives an alert, ALPN isn't really the thing that failed -- the handshake is.

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<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3601#discussion_r416841101">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1567,12 +1573,13 @@ QUIC requires that the cryptographic handshake provide authenticated protocol
 negotiation.  TLS uses Application Layer Protocol Negotiation (ALPN)
 {{!ALPN=RFC7301}} to select an application protocol.  Unless another mechanism
 is used for agreeing on an application protocol, endpoints MUST use ALPN for
-this purpose.  When using ALPN, endpoints MUST immediately close a connection
-(see Section 10.3 in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}) if an application protocol is not
-negotiated with a no_application_protocol TLS alert (QUIC error code 0x178, see
-{{tls-errors}}).  While {{!ALPN}} only specifies that servers use this alert,
-QUIC clients MUST also use it to terminate a connection when ALPN negotiation
-fails.
+this purpose.
+
+When using ALPN, endpoints MUST immediately close a connection (see Section
+10.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}) if an application protocol is not negotiated with a
+no_application_protocol TLS alert (QUIC error code 0x178, see {{tls-errors}}).
+While {{!ALPN}} only specifies that servers use this alert, QUIC clients MUST
+use error 0x178 to terminate a connection when ALPN negotiation fails.
</pre>
<p>I think this is intended to apply to the case when a server does not include an ALPN extension.  If the client receives an alert, ALPN isn't really the thing that failed -- the handshake is.</p>

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> +10.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}) if an application protocol is not negotiated with a
+no_application_protocol TLS alert (QUIC error code 0x178, see {{tls-errors}}).

```suggestion
10.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}) with a no_application_protocol TLS alert (QUIC
error code 0x178, see {{tls-errors}}) if an application protocol is not negotiated.
```
"close a connection with... if..." makes it clearer which phrase the "with" applies to.

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>  
 The alert level of all TLS alerts is "fatal"; a TLS stack MUST NOT generate
 alerts at the "warning" level.
 
+QUIC permits the use of a generic code in place of a specific error code; see
+Section 11 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}. For TLS alerts, this includes replacing any
+alert with a generic alert, such as handshake_failure (0x128 in QUIC).
+Endpoints might use a generic error code to avoid possibly exposing

should this might be a MAY?

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<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  
 The alert level of all TLS alerts is &quot;fatal&quot;; a TLS stack MUST NOT generate
 alerts at the &quot;warning&quot; level.
 
+QUIC permits the use of a generic code in place of a specific error code; see
+Section 11 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}. For TLS alerts, this includes replacing any
+alert with a generic alert, such as handshake_failure (0x128 in QUIC).
+Endpoints might use a generic error code to avoid possibly exposing
</pre>
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  Branch: refs/heads/ianswett-pto-handshake-complete
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-04-28 (Tue, 28 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

  Log Message:
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  Update pseudocode to not arm PTO..

For ApplicationData until the handshake is complete.



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For ApplicationData until the handshake is complete.

Fixed #3582
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  * Update pseudocode to not arm PTO..

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    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md (17)

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<p>For ApplicationData until the handshake is complete.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3582.">Fixed</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="600055882" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3582" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3582/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3582">#3582</a></p>

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Good point, I tried to fix that in #3604 

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  [qpack] Add comment explaining static table (#3576)

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d9ed15b2424498cfc8f593392e0971b92d75524f  Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md


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This doesn't change what is permitted, but it reframes it a little.

Closes #3013.


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  Branch: refs/heads/master
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  The peer only has 1 key, so send both

Sending in multiple PN spaces on PTO is particularly useful when the peer only has receive keys for 1 pn space, and the you don't know which.

Fixes #3583


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  Commit: 88a2d691e8f4b25d6f969cf05de7bbfda29244f3
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  Merge pull request #3597 from quicwg/ianswett-1-key

The peer only has 1 key, so PTO both


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  Rationale for NEW_CONNECTION_ID processing order

We already had something here, but I think that it missed the central
reason, which is the combination of:

* wanting to replace all connection IDs
* having used the limit from active_connection_id_limit
* wanting to ensure that there is >= 1 available connection IDs left

This phrasing isn't quite that explicit, but I think that it is clear
enough.

Closes #3422.


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Rationale for NEW_CONNECTION_ID processing order


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Let's not do this. There's a potential deadlock here: if the server does not mark the packet as lost, it will not retransmit later when a data packet is received from the client that opens up the server to send. Basically, the server only marks packets as lost on receiving an ACK, and if you make this change, the server could end up never marking a handshake packet as lost.

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<p>Let's not do this. There's a potential deadlock here: if the server does not mark the packet as lost, it will not retransmit later when a data packet is received from the client that opens up the server to send. Basically, the server only marks packets as lost on receiving an ACK, and if you make this change, the server could end up never marking a handshake packet as lost.</p>

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  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-04-20 (Mon, 20 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Clarifications for preferred_address

This just writes down what @MikeBishop suggested in #3432.

Closes #3432.


  Commit: 948cb8eccab03b9b1405ab9a6b9bdc9331fcce40
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  Date:   2020-04-29 (Wed, 29 Apr 2020)

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  Merge pull request #3588 from quicwg/spa-clarifications

Clarifications for preferred_address


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@janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

editorial suggestions

> +QUIC endpoints can be deployed behind a 5-tuple based routing architecture that
+delivers packets based on both the source and destination IP addresses and
+ports. When routing depends on addresses that the endpoint does not control,
+changes to the IP address or port of peers could result in packets being routed
+to a different server. The following actions could mitigate or resolve
+operational and security issues in this case:

```suggestion
A server farm could be deployed behind a simple load balancer that routes
packets based on source and destination IP addresses and ports. Changes to
the IP address or port of a peer could result in packets being routed by the load
balancer to a different server. Such a server deployment could use one of the
following methods to for connection continuity when a client's address changes.
```

> @@ -1156,6 +1156,34 @@ SHOULD ignore any such packets.
 
 Servers MUST drop incoming packets under all other circumstances.
 
+### Considerations for 5-tuple routing architectures

```suggestion
### Considerations for simple load balancers
```

> +* Endpoints can use an out-of-band mechanism to deliver packets to the correct
+destination or transfer state from the original destination.

```suggestion
* Servers could use an out-of-band mechanism to forward packets or connection
state to the correct endpoint.
```

> +* A server can request that a connection be migrated to an address that is
+unique using the preferred_address transport parameter. For example, the initial
+address may route to a 5-tuple based load balancer, and the preferred address
+could indicate a separate server address that does not require the use of the
+client address for routing. Note that clients could choose not to use the
+preferred address.

```suggestion
* If the server deployment can use other non-load-balanced server IP
addresses or ports than the one that the client is initiating connections on,
servers could use the preferred_address transport parameter to request
that clients move to these server addresses. Note that clients could choose
not to use the preferred address.
```

> +If a server does not implement one of the solutions above, it SHOULD send the
+disable_active_migration transport parameter to inform the client that any
+address change is likely to terminate the connection.

```suggestion
If a server behind such a load balancer does not implement a solution to
maintain connection continuity SHOULD disallow connection migration
via the disable_active_migration transport parameter.
```

> +Regardless of other mitigations, 5-tuple routing introduces new possibilities
+to create a stateless reset oracle. An attacker could tweak the source address
+or port of a packet to direct it to a different server and thus obtain the
+stateless reset token for a connection ID. Endpoints should take additional
+precautions in accordance with {{reset-oracle}}.

```suggestion
Server deployments that use such load balancing might still allow for
creation of a stateless reset oracle. Servers should take additional
precautions in accordance with {{reset-oracle}}.
```

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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

Some more editorial comments.

> @@ -1156,6 +1156,30 @@ SHOULD ignore any such packets.
 
 Servers MUST drop incoming packets under all other circumstances.
 
+### Considerations for simple load balancers
+
+A server farm could be deployed behind a simple load balancer that routes

```suggestion
Servers could be deployed behind a simple load balancer that routes
```

> +* Servers could use an out-of-band mechanism to forward packets or connection
+state to the correct endpoint.

```suggestion
* Servers could use an out-of-band mechanism to forward packets to the correct server based
on Connection ID.
```

> +If a server behind such a load balancer does not implement a solution to
+maintain connection continuity SHOULD disallow connection migration
+via the disable_active_migration transport parameter.

```suggestion
Servers behind load balancers that do not implement a solution to
maintain connection continuity SHOULD disallow connection migration
via the disable_active_migration transport parameter.
```

> +following methods to for connection continuity when a client's address changes.
+
+* Servers could use an out-of-band mechanism to forward packets or connection
+state to the correct endpoint.
+
+* If the server deployment can use other non-load-balanced server IP
+addresses or ports than the one that the client is initiating connections on,
+servers could use the preferred_address transport parameter to request
+that clients move to these server addresses. Note that clients could choose
+not to use the preferred address.
+
+If a server behind such a load balancer does not implement a solution to
+maintain connection continuity SHOULD disallow connection migration
+via the disable_active_migration transport parameter.
+
+Server deployments that use such load balancing might still allow for

```suggestion
Server deployments that use such load balancing might allow for
```

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@janaiyengar commented on this pull request.



> +that clients move to these server addresses. Note that clients could choose
+not to use the preferred address.

```suggestion
that clients move connections to these dedicated addresses. Note that clients could
choose not to use the preferred address.
```

> +A server farm could be deployed behind a simple load balancer that routes
+packets based on source and destination IP addresses and ports. Changes to
+the IP address or port of a peer could result in packets being routed by the load
+balancer to a different server. Such a server deployment could use one of the
+following methods to for connection continuity when a client's address changes.

```suggestion
A server deployment could load balance among servers using simply source and
destination IP addresses and ports. Changes to the client's IP address or port of
could result in packets being forwarded to the wrong server. Such a server
deployment could use one of the following methods to for connection continuity
when a client's address changes.
```

> +* If the server deployment can use other non-load-balanced server IP
+addresses or ports than the one that the client is initiating connections on,
+servers could use the preferred_address transport parameter to request

```suggestion
* If servers can use other dedicated server IP addresses or ports than
the one that the client is initiating connections to, they could use the
preferred_address transport parameter to request
```

> +If a server behind such a load balancer does not implement a solution to
+maintain connection continuity SHOULD disallow connection migration
+via the disable_active_migration transport parameter.
+
+Server deployments that use such load balancing might still allow for
+creation of a stateless reset oracle. Servers should take additional
+precautions in accordance with {{reset-oracle}}.

```suggestion
A server in a deployment that does not implement a solution to
maintain connection continuity during connection migration
SHOULD disallow it via the disable_active_migration transport
parameter.

Server deployments that use such load balancing might still allow for
creation of a stateless reset oracle, and should therefore follow the
guidelines in {{reset-oracle}}.
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> +* Servers could use an out-of-band mechanism to forward packets to the correct server based
+on Connection ID.

```suggestion
* Servers could use an out-of-band mechanism to forward packets to the correct
server based on Connection ID.
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> +preferred_address transport parameter to request
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+choose not to use the preferred address.

```suggestion
preferred_address transport parameter to request that clients move
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choose not to use the preferred address.
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> @@ -1156,6 +1156,31 @@ SHOULD ignore any such packets.
 
 Servers MUST drop incoming packets under all other circumstances.
 
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> @@ -1156,6 +1156,31 @@ SHOULD ignore any such packets.
 
 Servers MUST drop incoming packets under all other circumstances.
 
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> @@ -1156,6 +1156,31 @@ SHOULD ignore any such packets.
 
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> @@ -1156,6 +1156,31 @@ SHOULD ignore any such packets.
 
 Servers MUST drop incoming packets under all other circumstances.
 
+### Considerations for simple load balancers
+
+A server deployment could load balance among servers using simply source and
+destination IP addresses and ports. Changes to the client's IP address or port
+could result in packets being forwarded to the wrong server. Such a server
+deployment could use one of the following methods for connection continuity
+when a client's address changes.
+
+* Servers could use an out-of-band mechanism to forward packets to the correct
+server based on Connection ID.
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+* If servers can use other dedicated server IP addresses or ports than
+the one that the client is initiating connections to, they could use the

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
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      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/65d2acbe3055ab996a07fd9a9c56626e66052844
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-04-15 (Wed, 15 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  More detail regarding dropping of ACK Ranges

This explains what needs to be kept and why.  Specifically, you need to
keep ranges unless you have other means of ensuring that you don't
accept packets from those ranges again.  You also need to keep the
largest acknowledged so that you can get a packet number from subsequent
packets.

This also recommends that ACK frames include the largest acknowledged
always.  That is primarily to ensure that ECN works properly, and even
there, you only disable ECN if you get some weird reordering, so it's
probably not a big deal if you don't follow this recommendation.

Closes #3541.
Closes #3537.


  Commit: 88bbc30af2f9d630fb059d39774b295153fa580c
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  Date:   2020-04-28 (Tue, 28 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Cite relevant section


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  Merge pull request #3581 from quicwg/keep-acknowledged

More detail regarding dropping of ACK Ranges


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@martinthomson commented on this pull request.

I'm sure that this is now basically unrecognizable...

> @@ -1156,6 +1156,34 @@ SHOULD ignore any such packets.
 
 Servers MUST drop incoming packets under all other circumstances.
 
+### Considerations for 5-tuple routing architectures

```suggestion
### Considerations for Simple Load Balancers
```

> +* If servers can use other dedicated server IP addresses or ports than
+the one that the client is initiating connections to, they could use the
+preferred_address transport parameter to request that clients move
+connections to these dedicated addresses. Note that clients could
+choose not to use the preferred address.

```suggestion
* If servers can use a dedicated server IP address or port, other than the one
that the client is initially connects to, they could use the preferred_address
transport parameter to request that clients move connections to a dedicated
address. Note that clients could choose not to use the preferred address.
```

> +could result in packets being forwarded to the wrong server. Such a server
+deployment could use one of the following methods for connection continuity
+when a client's address changes.
+
+* Servers could use an out-of-band mechanism to forward packets to the correct
+server based on Connection ID.
+
+* If servers can use other dedicated server IP addresses or ports than
+the one that the client is initiating connections to, they could use the
+preferred_address transport parameter to request that clients move
+connections to these dedicated addresses. Note that clients could
+choose not to use the preferred address.
+
+A server in a deployment that does not implement a solution to
+maintain connection continuity during connection migration
+SHOULD disallow it via the disable_active_migration transport

```suggestion
SHOULD disallow migration using the disable_active_migration transport
```

> +Server deployments that use such load balancing might allow for
+creation of a stateless reset oracle, and should therefore follow the
+guidelines in {{reset-oracle}}.

Might as well just reiterate the existing requirement instead:

```suggestion
Server deployments that use this simple form of load balancing MUST avoid the
creation of a stateless reset oracle; see {{reset-oracle}}.
```

Fewer words, too.

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Closed #3537 via #3581.

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Closed #2684.

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<p>Closed <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="442588496" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2684" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2684/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2684">#2684</a>.</p>

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Let me see if I can break this down a little.  cc @martinduke for his opinion of these.

14.3.1: The first and last comment relates to the section on using coalescing to help the routing of ICMP messages.  I had no difficulty reading this section, though I might suggest one tweak:

> Endpoints that rely on the destination connection ID for routing *incoming* QUIC packets are likely to require that the connection ID be included in PMTU probe packets to route any resulting ICMP messages (Section 14.2) back to the correct endpoint.

The "further validation" text: DF is currently mandated, but this text pre-dates that requirement.  We should drop that clause.  And the other clause is a little lame.  I'd be happy dropping all of the quoted text.

Citing DPLPMTUDTD is sensible and we should do that.


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<p>Let me see if I can break this down a little.  cc <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/martinduke/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/martinduke">@martinduke</a> for his opinion of these.</p>
<p>14.3.1: The first and last comment relates to the section on using coalescing to help the routing of ICMP messages.  I had no difficulty reading this section, though I might suggest one tweak:</p>
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<p>Endpoints that rely on the destination connection ID for routing <em>incoming</em> QUIC packets are likely to require that the connection ID be included in PMTU probe packets to route any resulting ICMP messages (Section 14.2) back to the correct endpoint.</p>
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<p>The "further validation" text: DF is currently mandated, but this text pre-dates that requirement.  We should drop that clause.  And the other clause is a little lame.  I'd be happy dropping all of the quoted text.</p>
<p>Citing DPLPMTUDTD is sensible and we should do that.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/dplpmtudtdtd
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: 8e68ce6266e405fd56b90753737d641be8e7ba50
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8e68ce6266e405fd56b90753737d641be8e7ba50
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-04-29 (Wed, 29 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  DPLPMTUD fixes

A few minor tweaks based on review of the latest DPLPMTUD draft.

If I never have to type DPLPMTUD ever again, I'll be happy.

Closes #3217.



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A few minor tweaks based on review of the latest DPLPMTUD draft.

If I never have to type DPLPMTUD ever again, I&#39;ll be happy.

Closes #3217.
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  * DPLPMTUD fixes

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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (42)

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<p>A few minor tweaks based on review of the latest DPLPMTUD draft.</p>
<p>If I never have to type DPLPMTUD ever again, I'll be happy.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3217.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="521103239" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3217" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3217/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3217">#3217</a>.</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>DPLPMTUD fixes</li>
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    <strong>M</strong>
    <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3606/files#diff-db016291106766877c4921a79f8596e0">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>
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Take the regex (note leading space):

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There are a few manual tweaks here, but the first commit is strictly automated.
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-- Commit Summary --

  * Fix references
  * Manual fixes for -transport
  * Manual fixes for -http

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<p>There are a few manual tweaks here, but the first commit is strictly automated.</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>Fix references</li>
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  <li>Manual fixes for -http</li>
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This might even touch -transport as it turns out that Eric didn't catch 'em all.

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<p>This might even touch -transport as it turns out that Eric didn't catch 'em all.</p>

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After reviewing this, I'm inclined to do nothing.  The idle timeout covers this already.  Servers are always permitted to drop connections sooner, but we don't need to specify anything.  My primitive server doesn't have a problem with this as connections eventually drop based on the idle timeout.

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@ianswett, it sounds like you have a plan here.  I'm going to assign this to you.  I don't think that this is critical, but it would be nice to have some of this written down (especially the bit about not being able to rely on getting an ACK for every packet that was processed by a peer).

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Could we say "probe for the path MTU" or cite DPLPMTUD, rather than just say PMTU probe. This text is a little away from the former and I think there's opportunities for confusion between network-layer PMTUD and transport layer PLPMTUD, which it would be cool to avoid this confusion.

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<p>Could we say "probe for the path MTU" or cite DPLPMTUD, rather than just say PMTU probe. This text is a little away from the former and I think there's opportunities for confusion between network-layer PMTUD and transport layer PLPMTUD, which it would be cool to avoid this confusion.</p>

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SG, happy to work on this.

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The originally quoted section has been substantially rewritten and now specifies the PTO alarm, so there's no confusion about which alarm.

So I support @martinthomson suggestion to close this with no further action/OBE.

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<p>The originally quoted section has been substantially rewritten and now specifies the PTO alarm, so there's no confusion about which alarm.</p>
<p>So I support <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/martinthomson/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/martinthomson">@martinthomson</a> suggestion to close this with no further action/OBE.</p>

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Offshoot from #3536 review.  Servers behind a load balancer, and the load balancer isn't CID-aware.  Each server gives out an IP:port per client in the `preferred_address`  parameter.  _If_ the client moves to the SPA, then future migration is fine -- it will continue to talk to the same server using the preferred address.  If the client doesn't move, those future migrations will break.  There's currently no way to set `disable_migration` to "only if you don't use my preferred address".

Similarly, if the primary connection is to an anycast address, if the client fails to move to the preferred address, subsequent migration will likely break.

Should we blanket recommend that clients not actively migrate if they ignore / are unsuccessful in using the SPA?  Or should there be a way for the server to indicate that?

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<p>Offshoot from <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="585300603" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3536" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3536/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3536">#3536</a> review.  Servers behind a load balancer, and the load balancer isn't CID-aware.  Each server gives out an IP:port per client in the <code>preferred_address</code>  parameter.  <em>If</em> the client moves to the SPA, then future migration is fine -- it will continue to talk to the same server using the preferred address.  If the client doesn't move, those future migrations will break.  There's currently no way to set <code>disable_migration</code> to "only if you don't use my preferred address".</p>
<p>Similarly, if the primary connection is to an anycast address, if the client fails to move to the preferred address, subsequent migration will likely break.</p>
<p>Should we blanket recommend that clients not actively migrate if they ignore / are unsuccessful in using the SPA?  Or should there be a way for the server to indicate that?</p>

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We're somewhat inconsistent about whether transport parameters et al. get backticks or not across the documents.  For example,

>   the ACK Delay field is scaled by multiplying the encoded value by 2 to the
>  power of the value of the `ack_delay_exponent` transport parameter set by the
>  sender of the ACK frame; see {{transport-parameter-definitions}}.  Scaling in

> The Retire Prior To field counts connection IDs established during connection
> setup and the preferred_address transport parameter; see {{retiring-cids}}. The
> Retire Prior To field MUST be less than or equal to the Sequence Number field.

Same goes for error code names, frame types, etc.

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<p>We're somewhat inconsistent about whether transport parameters et al. get backticks or not across the documents.  For example,</p>
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<p>the ACK Delay field is scaled by multiplying the encoded value by 2 to the<br>
power of the value of the <code>ack_delay_exponent</code> transport parameter set by the<br>
sender of the ACK frame; see {{transport-parameter-definitions}}.  Scaling in</p>
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<p>The Retire Prior To field counts connection IDs established during connection<br>
setup and the preferred_address transport parameter; see {{retiring-cids}}. The<br>
Retire Prior To field MUST be less than or equal to the Sequence Number field.</p>
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<p>Same goes for error code names, frame types, etc.</p>

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> +* If servers can use other dedicated server IP addresses or ports than
+the one that the client is initiating connections to, they could use the
+preferred_address transport parameter to request that clients move
+connections to these dedicated addresses. Note that clients could
+choose not to use the preferred address.

Isn't the whole point of this section that the address/port initially used by the client _isn't_ dedicated to this particular server?  It seems like the entire "other than... connects to" phrase is unnecessary.

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<p><b>@MikeBishop</b> approved this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3536#discussion_r417414593">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +* If servers can use other dedicated server IP addresses or ports than
+the one that the client is initiating connections to, they could use the
+preferred_address transport parameter to request that clients move
+connections to these dedicated addresses. Note that clients could
+choose not to use the preferred address.
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<p>Isn't the whole point of this section that the address/port initially used by the client <em>isn't</em> dedicated to this particular server?  It seems like the entire "other than... connects to" phrase is unnecessary.</p>

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@MikeBishop approved this pull request.

Largely goodness; a few quibbles.

> +{{validate-handshake}}) and during connection migration; see
+{{migrate-validate}}.

```suggestion
{{validate-handshake}}) and during connection migration (see
{{migrate-validate}}).
```
I might leave this one alone, since it's explicitly giving details about each of two things.

> +{{validate-retry}}) or in a previous connection using the NEW_TOKEN frame; see
+{{validate-future}}.

```suggestion
{{validate-retry}}) or in a previous connection using the NEW_TOKEN frame (see
{{validate-future}}).
```
Same here.

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Purely editorial nit:  This text has a lot of line breaks that won't render as such in the output.  If you want to have separate paragraphs in the definition, you need a new `: ` for each new paragraph.

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> +treat any of the following as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION:
+
+* absence of the initial_connection_id transport parameter from either
+  endpoint,
+
+* absence of the original_connection_id transport parameter from the server,
+
+* absence of the retry_connection_id transport parameter from the server after
+  receiving a Retry packet,
+
+* presence of the retry_connection_id transport parameter when no Retry packet
+  was received, or
+
+* a mismatch between values received from a peer in these transport parameters
+  and the value sent in the corresponding Destination Connection ID fields of
+  Initial packets.

```suggestion
  Initial packets or the Source Connection ID field of a Retry packet.
```
...though perhaps this is fine, since the client will then use this value as its DCID for the next Initial packet.

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> @@ -2246,6 +2246,16 @@ that packet numbers cannot be used to correlate activity.  This does not prevent
 other properties of packets, such as timing and size, from being used to
 correlate activity.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD NOT initiate migration with a peer that uses a zero-length
+connection ID, because traffic over the new path might be trivially linkable to
+traffic over the old one. If the server is able to route packets with a
+zero-length connection ID to the right connection, it means that the server is
+using other information to demultiplex packets. For example, the server can
+assign an address that is unique to the connection using the preferred_address
+transport parameter; see {{preferred-address}}.  Information that might allow

Issue #3565 is prohibiting the use of preferred_address with 0-length CID.  So this example is not possible and just confusing (since it is suggesting that the use of preferred_address with 0-length CID is possible).

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3563#discussion_r417442110">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -2246,6 +2246,16 @@ that packet numbers cannot be used to correlate activity.  This does not prevent
 other properties of packets, such as timing and size, from being used to
 correlate activity.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD NOT initiate migration with a peer that uses a zero-length
+connection ID, because traffic over the new path might be trivially linkable to
+traffic over the old one. If the server is able to route packets with a
+zero-length connection ID to the right connection, it means that the server is
+using other information to demultiplex packets. For example, the server can
+assign an address that is unique to the connection using the preferred_address
+transport parameter; see {{preferred-address}}.  Information that might allow
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<p>Issue <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="595642576" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3565" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3565/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3565">#3565</a> is prohibiting the use of preferred_address with 0-length CID.  So this example is not possible and just confusing (since it is suggesting that the use of preferred_address with 0-length CID is possible).</p>

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> What about simply noting that adaptive strategies such as X, Y, and Z have proven to be useful in TCP, and would apply equally to QUIC?

My thinking is that "adaptive strategies" would not only "apply equally to QUIC" but be "**significantly** more important for QUIC".  Operators are aware of the havoc that excessive reordering in their networks causes to TCP and have deployed middle boxes for restoring TCP ordering in such networks.  Such network "optimizations" are not possible with QUIC, so QUIC will see more TCP reordering.  We've seen such extreme reordering of QUIC in production.

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<p>My thinking is that "adaptive strategies" would not only "apply equally to QUIC" but be "<strong>significantly</strong> more important for QUIC".  Operators are aware of the havoc that excessive reordering in their networks causes to TCP and have deployed middle boxes for restoring TCP ordering in such networks.  Such network "optimizations" are not possible with QUIC, so QUIC will see more TCP reordering.  We've seen such extreme reordering of QUIC in production.</p>

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@igorlord that's a good point.  Do you think it warrants adding a statement like "Re-ordering could be more common with QUIC than TCP, because network elements cannot observe and fix the order of out-of-order packets."?

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> +If a server behind such a load balancer does not implement a solution to
+maintain connection continuity SHOULD disallow connection migration
+via the disable_active_migration transport parameter.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3536#discussion_r417501024">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +If a server behind such a load balancer does not implement a solution to
+maintain connection continuity SHOULD disallow connection migration
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36cac20525c1aefd0c6de9c004866c47261e30a1  Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md


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Clarify reserved values for stream types, settings identifiers, frame
types, and error codes.

0x1f * N + 0x21 for the value of N = -1 is 0x02.  Literal interpretation
of the current text includes this as a reserved value.  The
parenthetical examples given in Section 11.2 make it clear that this was
not the intention, rendering this PR editorial.

The main motivation of this PR is not that the current text is
inconsistent, but that parenthetical examples from 11.2 are necessary to
correctly interpret the definitions in sections 6.2.3, 7.2.4.1, 7.2.8,
and 8.1.

Alternative wordings could be:
&quot;0x1f * N + 0x21 for N = 0, 1, 2, ...&quot;
&quot;0x1f * N + 0x02 for positive integer values of N&quot;
&quot;0x1f * N + 0x02 for N = 1, 2, 3, ...&quot;
&quot;0x21, 0x21 + 0x1f, 0x21 + 2 * 0x1f, ...&quot;
&quot;a value of at least 0x21 with a remainder of 0x02 modulo 0x1f&quot;
&quot;a value of at least 0x21 that is congruent to 0x21 modulo 0x1f&quot;
none of which is better than what this PR proposes.
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-- Commit Summary --

  * Clarify reserved values.

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (59)

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<p>Clarify reserved values for stream types, settings identifiers, frame<br>
types, and error codes.</p>
<p>0x1f * N + 0x21 for the value of N = -1 is 0x02.  Literal interpretation<br>
of the current text includes this as a reserved value.  The<br>
parenthetical examples given in Section 11.2 make it clear that this was<br>
not the intention, rendering this PR editorial.</p>
<p>The main motivation of this PR is not that the current text is<br>
inconsistent, but that parenthetical examples from 11.2 are necessary to<br>
correctly interpret the definitions in sections 6.2.3, 7.2.4.1, 7.2.8,<br>
and 8.1.</p>
<p>Alternative wordings could be:<br>
"0x1f * N + 0x21 for N = 0, 1, 2, ..."<br>
"0x1f * N + 0x02 for positive integer values of N"<br>
"0x1f * N + 0x02 for N = 1, 2, 3, ..."<br>
"0x21, 0x21 + 0x1f, 0x21 + 2 * 0x1f, ..."<br>
"a value of at least 0x21 with a remainder of 0x02 modulo 0x1f"<br>
"a value of at least 0x21 that is congruent to 0x21 modulo 0x1f"<br>
none of which is better than what this PR proposes.</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
<ul>
  <li>Clarify reserved values.</li>
</ul>

<h4>File Changes</h4>
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  <li>
    <strong>M</strong>
    <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3610/files#diff-3d2f9fd0738589657498f2c06ee02f2f">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>
    (59)
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Good question.  This brings up a related question for me about disable_active_migration.  Given a server can decide not to give out any additional connection IDs, doesn't that give it a mechanism for disabling active migration?

Ironically, given recent decisions on connection CIDs and SPA, if an SPA is supplied, then the client always has a second connection ID it can use on any path, not just the SPA.  So my suggestion of not giving out extra CIDs fails for the original path, but not the SPA.

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<p>Good question.  This brings up a related question for me about disable_active_migration.  Given a server can decide not to give out any additional connection IDs, doesn't that give it a mechanism for disabling active migration?</p>
<p>Ironically, given recent decisions on connection CIDs and SPA, if an SPA is supplied, then the client always has a second connection ID it can use on any path, not just the SPA.  So my suggestion of not giving out extra CIDs fails for the original path, but not the SPA.</p>

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Henrik was able to point me in the direction of how to use `&lt;contact/&gt;` inside a bullet point without xml2rfc blowing up, so this no longer has to be a fully-collapsed text block.
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  * Bullet points, now that we can

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<p>Henrik was able to point me in the direction of how to use <code>&lt;contact/&gt;</code> inside a bullet point without xml2rfc blowing up, so this no longer has to be a fully-collapsed text block.</p>

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This is an initial list of contributors to the HTTP document based on GitHub and a cursory review of list archives.  If you feel that you or someone else should have been included, please speak up.  Any omissions reflect my own error and not my opinion of your contribution.
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<p>This is an initial list of contributors to the HTTP document based on GitHub and a cursory review of list archives.  If you feel that you or someone else should have been included, please speak up.  Any omissions reflect my own error and not my opinion of your contribution.</p>

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  Clarify reserved values.=0D
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Clarify reserved values for stream types, settings identifiers, frame=0D
types, and error codes.=0D
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0x1f * N + 0x21 for the value of N =3D -1 is 0x02.  Literal interpretatio=
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not the intention, rendering this PR editorial.=0D
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The main motivation of this PR is not that the current text is=0D
inconsistent, but that parenthetical examples from 11.2 are necessary to=0D=

correctly interpret the definitions in sections 6.2.3, 7.2.4.1, 7.2.8,=0D=

and 8.1.=0D
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Alternative wordings could be:=0D
"0x1f * N + 0x21 for N =3D 0, 1, 2, ..."=0D
"0x1f * N + 0x02 for positive integer values of N"=0D
"0x1f * N + 0x02 for N =3D 1, 2, 3, ..."=0D
"0x21, 0x21 + 0x1f, 0x21 + 2 * 0x1f, ..."=0D
"a value of at least 0x21 with a remainder of 0x02 modulo 0x1f"=0D
"a value of at least 0x21 that is congruent to 0x21 modulo 0x1f"=0D
none of which is better than what this PR proposes.=0D
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What we=E2=80=99ve said for this so far is that SPA is limited to offerin=
g a minimum of a single additional CID that needs to work in both places,=
 the original server and the preferred server.=0D
=0D
As Ian says, the original server should not issue the client any more CID=
s (if you have some that are deployment specific) until after they=E2=80=99=
ve successfully migrated to the new endpoint, at which point the preferre=
d server can handle that issuance.=0D
=0D
And as he notes, you still have to deal with the fact that there are two =
CIDs that the client could use, from any incoming address. =0D
=0D
It seems as though the full way to solve this is to define potentially di=
sjoint sets of TPs that different servers could set to match their partic=
ular requirements (around more than just migration). In that world, if yo=
u had an initial server that couldn=E2=80=99t handle migration and a pref=
erred server that did handle migration, you could set different TPs to in=
dicate that. It goes well beyond that though, any other TP might have a d=
ifferent values for the original server and then have those be different =
with the preferred server. But that does feel an awful lot like something=
 that goes with full server migration.=0D
=0D
In the limited form that we have now, if you want to be able to push some=
one off to a different server, there are some limitations that you need t=
o deal with, like being able to set up enough of a shared configuration f=
or the two that the same TPs work with both. =0D
=0D
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=0D
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- If it does, then you=E2=80=99re in good shape, in theory you gave it TP=
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- If it doesn=E2=80=99t, then you=E2=80=99re unhappy, since in theory you=
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m a different IP address/port, then a non-CID aware load balancer will no=
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=0D
Of course, the problematic case is even narrower, since if the client is =
probing the new path they=E2=80=99ll see it as though there isn=E2=80=99t=
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 is always a risk when migrating, so they should be unsurprised and stick=
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=0D
If they=E2=80=99re forced to move for whatever reason, then it will be ju=
st as though they didn=E2=80=99t have connectivity over the new path (whi=
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<p></p>=0D
<p>What we=E2=80=99ve said for this so far is that SPA is limited to offe=
ring a minimum of a single additional CID that needs to work in both plac=
es, the original server and the preferred server.</p>=0D
<p>As Ian says, the original server should not issue the client any more =
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rred server can handle that issuance.</p>=0D
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<p>It seems as though the full way to solve this is to define potentially=
 disjoint sets of TPs that different servers could set to match their par=
ticular requirements (around more than just migration). In that world, if=
 you had an initial server that couldn=E2=80=99t handle migration and a p=
referred server that did handle migration, you could set different TPs to=
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a different values for the original server and then have those be differe=
nt with the preferred server. But that does feel an awful lot like someth=
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<p>In the limited form that we have now, if you want to be able to push s=
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<p>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D</p>=0D
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<p>When you=E2=80=99re in the =E2=80=9Cclient didn=E2=80=99t move=E2=80=9D=
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<p>Of course, the problematic case is even narrower, since if the client =
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@MikeBishop 
> Should we blanket recommend that clients not actively migrate if they ignore / are unsuccessful in using the SPA? Or should there be a way for the server to indicate that?

I do not like the first option, because IMO banning migration on the original address is a premature optimization based on what we have now, has negative effect on what we would have in the future.
My assumption is that the majority of the server deployments would be CID-aware, especially in the long term, especially in terms of traffic volume. Note that the volume of traffic is more important than the number of server deployments, as migration is about (improving) end-user experience.

IMO there are two ways forward:
* (a) State that disable_active_migration TP only applies to the original address. Per-definition, server-preferred address is an address that is capable of receiving packets from any address. There is no need to prohibit clients doing migration when connected to SPA.
* (b) Do nothing. Clients are RECOMMENDED to implement SPA, and this issue is about a small fraction of deployments that rely on non-CID-aware load balancers. We can ignore the problem.

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<p>Should we blanket recommend that clients not actively migrate if they ignore / are unsuccessful in using the SPA? Or should there be a way for the server to indicate that?</p>
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<p>I do not like the first option, because IMO banning migration on the original address is a premature optimization based on what we have now, has negative effect on what we would have in the future.<br>
My assumption is that the majority of the server deployments would be CID-aware, especially in the long term, especially in terms of traffic volume. Note that the volume of traffic is more important than the number of server deployments, as migration is about (improving) end-user experience.</p>
<p>IMO there are two ways forward:</p>
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<li>(a) State that disable_active_migration TP only applies to the original address. Per-definition, server-preferred address is an address that is capable of receiving packets from any address. There is no need to prohibit clients doing migration when connected to SPA.</li>
<li>(b) Do nothing. Clients are RECOMMENDED to implement SPA, and this issue is about a small fraction of deployments that rely on non-CID-aware load balancers. We can ignore the problem.</li>
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  Branch: refs/heads/master
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  Commit: 675d02f739735fbc387853e6bea102ec82013d58
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/675d02f739735fbc387853e6bea102ec82013d58
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-04-29 (Wed, 29 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Fix references

Take the regex (note leading space):

```
 \(see([\n\s]+(?:(?:Section|Appendix)[\n\s]+\S+[\n\s]+of[\n\s]+)?(?:\{\{|\[)[^\}]+(?:\}\}|\]))\)\.
```
And replace with:
```
; see$1.
```

All mechanical, no manual fixups.


  Commit: 86c3ad5a1b53e80e3d2c05155c87877166823118
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/86c3ad5a1b53e80e3d2c05155c87877166823118
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-04-29 (Wed, 29 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Manual fixes for -transport


  Commit: 49983b1f93846c871fa0ee39147b310a5b1b5156
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/49983b1f93846c871fa0ee39147b310a5b1b5156
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  Date:   2020-04-29 (Wed, 29 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Manual fixes for -http


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  Date:   2020-04-30 (Thu, 30 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Revert cases of two different things

Co-Authored-By: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>


  Commit: 568bd282754328ce0be2939ca1f4da9448201506
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-04-30 (Thu, 30 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #3607 from quicwg/semicolons

Moar semicolons


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/f254feb0490f...568bd2827543


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  Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

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  Merge pull request #3536 from martinduke/5tuple-routing

5tuple routing


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I could not stand leaving this unmerged any longer.  Anyone with more comments can make a new PR.  Thanks to everyone who helped out here.

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> +treat any of the following as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION:
+
+* absence of the initial_connection_id transport parameter from either
+  endpoint,
+
+* absence of the original_connection_id transport parameter from the server,
+
+* absence of the retry_connection_id transport parameter from the server after
+  receiving a Retry packet,
+
+* presence of the retry_connection_id transport parameter when no Retry packet
+  was received, or
+
+* a mismatch between values received from a peer in these transport parameters
+  and the value sent in the corresponding Destination Connection ID fields of
+  Initial packets.

> the client will then use this value as its DCID for the next Initial

Yeah, that was my thought.  The Retry.SCID thing is a choice people are free to use, but that doesn't need to be written down.  This way is simpler.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3499#discussion_r417679178">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +treat any of the following as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION:
+
+* absence of the initial_connection_id transport parameter from either
+  endpoint,
+
+* absence of the original_connection_id transport parameter from the server,
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+  receiving a Retry packet,
+
+* presence of the retry_connection_id transport parameter when no Retry packet
+  was received, or
+
+* a mismatch between values received from a peer in these transport parameters
+  and the value sent in the corresponding Destination Connection ID fields of
+  Initial packets.
</pre>
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<p>the client will then use this value as its DCID for the next Initial</p>
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<p>Yeah, that was my thought.  The Retry.SCID thing is a choice people are free to use, but that doesn't need to be written down.  This way is simpler.</p>

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> @@ -2246,6 +2246,16 @@ that packet numbers cannot be used to correlate activity.  This does not prevent
 other properties of packets, such as timing and size, from being used to
 correlate activity.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD NOT initiate migration with a peer that uses a zero-length
+connection ID, because traffic over the new path might be trivially linkable to
+traffic over the old one. If the server is able to route packets with a
+zero-length connection ID to the right connection, it means that the server is
+using other information to demultiplex packets. For example, the server can
+assign an address that is unique to the connection using the preferred_address
+transport parameter; see {{preferred-address}}.  Information that might allow

Good catch.  These were done in parallel without thinking much about their interactions.  I've switched to using a different example.

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<p><b>@martinthomson</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3563#discussion_r417696916">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -2246,6 +2246,16 @@ that packet numbers cannot be used to correlate activity.  This does not prevent
 other properties of packets, such as timing and size, from being used to
 correlate activity.
 
+An endpoint SHOULD NOT initiate migration with a peer that uses a zero-length
+connection ID, because traffic over the new path might be trivially linkable to
+traffic over the old one. If the server is able to route packets with a
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+using other information to demultiplex packets. For example, the server can
+assign an address that is unique to the connection using the preferred_address
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In the recovery draft, the pseudocode does something approximately right (appendix B.9, unfortunately buried in the congestion control example).

There is, however, no text in the spec that says you should set the PTO again when discarding keys if there is still outstanding data in the remaining contexts. This opens up some bizarre corner cases:

Server sends handshake flight + 1RTT
1RTT packets lost
Client acks the handshake flight -- all HS data is acked, and because the HS is not complete we do not set the PTO timer for the 1RTT data.
Client Finished arrives -- no action required by the spec.

It's true that HANDSHAKE_DONE will cover this in the server case, but in the client case where 0RTT is lost, the client might never send a 1RTT ack-eliciting packet. Better for us to tell the server to arm PTO when the handshake is confirmed. Better yet to do it when the handshake is complete, rather than when the keys are discarded (handshake confirmed).

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<p>In the recovery draft, the pseudocode does something approximately right (appendix B.9, unfortunately buried in the congestion control example).</p>
<p>There is, however, no text in the spec that says you should set the PTO again when discarding keys if there is still outstanding data in the remaining contexts. This opens up some bizarre corner cases:</p>
<p>Server sends handshake flight + 1RTT<br>
1RTT packets lost<br>
Client acks the handshake flight -- all HS data is acked, and because the HS is not complete we do not set the PTO timer for the 1RTT data.<br>
Client Finished arrives -- no action required by the spec.</p>
<p>It's true that HANDSHAKE_DONE will cover this in the server case, but in the client case where 0RTT is lost, the client might never send a 1RTT ack-eliciting packet. Better for us to tell the server to arm PTO when the handshake is confirmed. Better yet to do it when the handshake is complete, rather than when the keys are discarded (handshake confirmed).</p>

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I see now that Section 5.2.2 explicitly describes this, so there's no problem here, though I might complain a bit about handshake complete vs. handshake confirmed.

Sorry, feel free to close this issue if you don't think the confirmed thing is worth changing.

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<p>I see now that Section 5.2.2 explicitly describes this, so there's no problem here, though I might complain a bit about handshake complete vs. handshake confirmed.</p>
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  * Fix circular reference to kInitialRtt

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    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md (7)

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I changed the title, since it's wrong.

There might be some useful editorial cleanup here, but the substantive change would be to reset PTO when the handshake is complete, rather than confirmed. The edge case is that the client lost its 0RTT flight and HANDSHAKE_DONE is held up by losses or something. The delay in sending the client's HTTP request could turn out to be quite long.

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<p>I changed the title, since it's wrong.</p>
<p>There might be some useful editorial cleanup here, but the substantive change would be to reset PTO when the handshake is complete, rather than confirmed. The edge case is that the client lost its 0RTT flight and HANDSHAKE_DONE is held up by losses or something. The delay in sending the client's HTTP request could turn out to be quite long.</p>

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There's some architectural inconsistency around the treatment of 1RTT PTOs at the end of the handshake.

On the one hand, we are not supposed to set the PTO timer for 1RTT before the handshake is **complete**. This is to prevent us from retransmitting stuff the peer may not be able to process.

On the other hand, we are supposed to arm the PTO timer when the handshake is **confirmed**. This is the point where we're guaranteed that the peer has receive keys.

So there is a weird gap between handshake complete and handshake confirmed where new 1RTT packets will arm the PTO, but outstanding 0RTT or 1RTT packets from before handshake complete will not have an active PTO timer.

This isn't the end of the world -- the connection will recover -- but it doesn't make any sense, and could result in either excessive PTO delays, or 1RTT probes that the peer can't decode.

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<p>There's some architectural inconsistency around the treatment of 1RTT PTOs at the end of the handshake.</p>
<p>On the one hand, we are not supposed to set the PTO timer for 1RTT before the handshake is <strong>complete</strong>. This is to prevent us from retransmitting stuff the peer may not be able to process.</p>
<p>On the other hand, we are supposed to arm the PTO timer when the handshake is <strong>confirmed</strong>. This is the point where we're guaranteed that the peer has receive keys.</p>
<p>So there is a weird gap between handshake complete and handshake confirmed where new 1RTT packets will arm the PTO, but outstanding 0RTT or 1RTT packets from before handshake complete will not have an active PTO timer.</p>
<p>This isn't the end of the world -- the connection will recover -- but it doesn't make any sense, and could result in either excessive PTO delays, or 1RTT probes that the peer can't decode.</p>

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A follow-up for #3536.
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```suggestion
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(I would have called this `{#constants}` instead; the tag you chose has no real effect.)

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I think that - at this point - the overwhelming majority of parameter names are not quoted in any way and do go in and fix all of them would be tiresome.  However, most are in snake_case, CamelCase, Title Case, or SHOUTING_CASE so they are almost always distinguishable.

I grepped through and we have 38 instances of backticks.  Most of these are in -http and -qpack.  Most of them are in the description of reserved codepoints.  I'm going to suggest we scrub the others out.

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This doesn't do qpack because qpack is weird and needs a lot more work.

The places where I kept backticks are for the inline formulae that were
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somehow still.  I also kept backticks for references to variables in
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However, this last principle really hurts in qpack and I don't know what
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The spec defines this as MUST NOT:

> An endpoint MAY send multiple GOAWAY frames indicating different identifiers, but MUST NOT increase the identifier value they send, since clients might already have retried unprocessed requests on another connection.

we should define an error code for this?
I do not see that it is define, maybe I missed it somewhere.

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<p>The spec defines this as MUST NOT:</p>
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<p>we should define an error code for this?<br>
I do not see that it is define, maybe I missed it somewhere.</p>

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This doesn&#39;t do qpack because qpack is weird and needs a lot more work.

The places where I kept backticks are for the inline formulae that were
used for the reserved codepoints.  That seemed like it was worth quoting
somehow still.  I also kept backticks for references to variables in
examples.

However, this last principle really hurts in qpack and I don&#39;t know what
to do about that.

Closes #3609 (we&#39;ll need another issue for qpack).
You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3617

-- Commit Summary --

  * Scrub for backticks

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (16)
    M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md (4)
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md (2)
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (10)

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<p>This doesn't do qpack because qpack is weird and needs a lot more work.</p>
<p>The places where I kept backticks are for the inline formulae that were<br>
used for the reserved codepoints.  That seemed like it was worth quoting<br>
somehow still.  I also kept backticks for references to variables in<br>
examples.</p>
<p>However, this last principle really hurts in qpack and I don't know what<br>
to do about that.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3609.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="609168472" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3609" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3609/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3609">#3609</a> (we'll need another issue for qpack).</p>

<hr>

<h4>You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:</h4>
<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3617'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3617</a></p>

<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
<ul>
  <li>Scrub for backticks</li>
</ul>

<h4>File Changes</h4>
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  <li>
    <strong>M</strong>
    <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3617/files#diff-3d2f9fd0738589657498f2c06ee02f2f">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>
    (16)
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    <strong>M</strong>
    <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3617/files#diff-c3ed24528f71fade042cdefbeadbd7b9">draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md</a>
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    <strong>M</strong>
    <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3617/files#diff-afdf56cd6ee6d10d94d669541f99bc07">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>
    (2)
  </li>
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    <strong>M</strong>
    <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3617/files#diff-db016291106766877c4921a79f8596e0">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>
    (10)
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</ul>

<h4>Patch Links:</h4>
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  <li><a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3617.patch'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3617.patch</a></li>
  <li><a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3617.diff'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3617.diff</a></li>
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We can define our own internal error code for this and report that as a generic error.

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> We've seen such extreme reordering of QUIC in production

@igorlord do you have a reference of those data? It'd be good to understand how the reordering pattern looks like in the production network.

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<p>We've seen such extreme reordering of QUIC in production</p>
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> We can define our own internal error code for this and report that as a generic error.

I am fine with that. Adding a description to the "Reason Phrase" in CONNECTION_CLOSE frame is enough.

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> This brings up a related question for me about disable_active_migration. Given a server can decide not to give out any additional connection IDs, doesn't that give it a mechanism for disabling active migration?

IIRC, we had that conversation when deciding whether to add `disable_active_migration` in the first place.  The short version is that taking this approach prevents the client from rotating CIDs on the primary path; if we want the client to be able to rotate CIDs but not migrate, they need to be distinct signals.

@erickinnear, in a way you're correct that clients will have to deal with the fallout regardless of what the server says.  However, the actual use of `disable_active_migration` is likely to trigger a little more than just "don't do that" -- a client might PING more actively to prevent NAT rebindings, for example.  I think it's this hinting aspect that's actually more valuable, since as you note, clients need to be prepared for attempted migrations to fail even with servers that tacitly support them.

> Per-definition, server-preferred address is an address that is capable of receiving packets from any address.

I don't think this is necessarily true, though I agree that we're talking about smaller and smaller fractions of server space.

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<p>IIRC, we had that conversation when deciding whether to add <code>disable_active_migration</code> in the first place.  The short version is that taking this approach prevents the client from rotating CIDs on the primary path; if we want the client to be able to rotate CIDs but not migrate, they need to be distinct signals.</p>
<p><a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/erickinnear/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/erickinnear">@erickinnear</a>, in a way you're correct that clients will have to deal with the fallout regardless of what the server says.  However, the actual use of <code>disable_active_migration</code> is likely to trigger a little more than just "don't do that" -- a client might PING more actively to prevent NAT rebindings, for example.  I think it's this hinting aspect that's actually more valuable, since as you note, clients need to be prepared for attempted migrations to fail even with servers that tacitly support them.</p>
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-* If servers can use other dedicated server IP addresses or ports than
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@junhochoi The public data on this can be found in [slides presented for IETF 105](https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/105/materials/slides-105-maprg-packet-loss-signaling-for-encrypted-protocols).  Take a look at red "below the line" red dots on the graphs.  At the time we thought the red dots represented loss in our observer infrastructure, but additional analysis after the IETF meeting confirmed that the signal was mostly due to very high reordering (more than 31 subsequent packets arrive before an older packet has arrived).

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
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      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1bd9afb85bd769cd6f26fc366795841a60aa2daa
  Author: martinduke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-04-29 (Wed, 29 Apr 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Fix circular reference to kInitialRtt


  Commit: 4b6baa3648838bf89f944f9a6d4accebca9f525a
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  Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

Co-authored-by: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>


  Commit: f62641bda28c5482c3243af27e84adcc7ebbe4b3
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  Merge pull request #3614 from martinduke/patch-3

Fix circular reference to kInitialRtt


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I think I'd invert the polarity of this, based on what I recall of the list discussion.  Error codes largely reflect connection-local issues and mostly shouldn't be propagated.  I'm inclined to lead with indicating an upstream  failure via the HTTP status codes, then note that there are times it might be useful to proxy a specific stream error, such as REFUSED_STREAM.



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<p>I think I'd invert the polarity of this, based on what I recall of the list discussion.  Error codes largely reflect connection-local issues and mostly shouldn't be propagated.  I'm inclined to lead with indicating an upstream  failure via the HTTP status codes, then note that there are times it might be useful to proxy a specific stream error, such as REFUSED_STREAM.</p>

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Thanks, LG

>  The endpoint SHOULD ignore all ICMP messages that fail validation.
 
-An endpoint MUST NOT increase PMTU based on ICMP messages.  Any reduction in the
-QUIC maximum packet size MAY be provisional until QUIC's loss detection
-algorithm determines that the quoted packet has actually been lost.
+An endpoint MUST NOT increase PMTU based on ICMP messages; see Section 3, clause
+6 of {{!DPLPMTUD}}.  Any reduction in the QUIC maximum packet size MAY be

```suggestion
6 of {{!DPLPMTUD}}.  Any reduction in the QUIC maximum packet size in response to ICMP messages MAY be
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>30 packet reordering certainly happens, though it is quite rare.

Some other MAPRG [UDP reordering data](https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/102/materials/slides-102-maprg-udp-packet-reordering-ian-swett-00)

I'll update the PR to point out that UDP reordering may be more prevalent, but not add any new normative statements.

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<p>30 packet reordering certainly happens, though it is quite rare.</p>
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<p>I'll update the PR to point out that UDP reordering may be more prevalent, but not add any new normative statements.</p>

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@ianswett pushed 1 commit.

4d3e918fee5ed3468f7a4ee1e67c3f05bbe0236f  QUIC could see more reordering


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<p><a href="https://github.com/ianswett" class="user-mention">@ianswett</a> pushed 1 commit.</p>

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Thanks, @ianswett.  We were deliberately focusing data collection on both "boring" and "interesting" network locations to get a wide range of scenarios.

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
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  Merge pull request #17 from quicwg/vector-line-breaks

Fixed text vector line breaks


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>> Per-definition, server-preferred address is an address that is capable of receiving packets from any address.
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> I don't think this is necessarily true, though I agree that we're talking about smaller and smaller fractions of server space.

While I agree that it might not necessarily be true at the moment, I might argue that it is going to be true.

The basis of the resolution for #3559 and #3565 (both on consensus call) is that servers using preferred address would not be using the server's address for distinguishing between connections. We also know that a server cannot use client's address (unless there is out-of-band knowledge), because clients are not required to use the same 2-tuple when migrating to a different address (and also because there are NATs).

The outcome is that the server has to rely on CID when using SPA. And therefore I might insist that servers using SPA would always be capable of handling further migration.

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  * recovery: fix broken reference to TLS, &quot;Discarding Initial Keys&quot;

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tl;dr We need to recommend limits on the number of failed decryptions.=0D=

=0D
## Introduction=0D
=0D
At [the QUIPS workshop](https://www.ndss-symposium.org/ndss2020/cfp-quips=
-workshop/) one of the side discussions concentrated on the quality of th=
e analysis of the [record limits in TLS](https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8=
446#section-5.5) and the applicability of that analysis to QUIC.=0D
=0D
Felix G=C3=BCnther, along with Marc Fischlin, Christian Janson, and Kenny=
 Paterson have done a little analysis, based on [the QUIPS paper Felix pr=
esented at QUIPS](https://felixguenther.info/Q20_RC.pdf) and the [paper b=
y Atul Luykx and Kenny](https://www.isg.rhul.ac.uk/~kp/TLS-AEbounds.pdf) =
we used to set limits in TLS.=0D
=0D
There are two relevant limits in this analysis:=0D
=0D
1. The confidentiality bound, which is usually expressed in terms of adva=
ntage an attacker gains in being able to break confidentiality of records=
/packets as they get more data from valid packets.  For instance, in AES-=
GCM, the analysis shows that after seeing 2^24.5 packets (almost 24 milli=
on) the attacker has a 2^-60 better chance than pure chance of winning th=
e IND-CPA game.=0D
=0D
2. The forgery bound, which is again expressed as an probably of an attac=
ker successfully creating a forged record/packet.  Thanks to the analysis=
 done previously, we know that AES-GCM and ChaCha20+Poly1305 have a forge=
ry chance of 2^-57 after 2^60 and 2^36 forgery attempts respectively.=0D
=0D
The current text just points to TLS 1.3, which recommends the use of key =
updates to protect confidentiality.  But TLS has a forgery tolerance of 0=
: a single failed forgery attempt causes the connection to break.  QUIC (=
and DTLS) allow for multiple forgeries to be ignored, so we need to facto=
r that in.=0D
=0D
## Proposed Solution=0D
=0D
As discussed in [this paper](https://felixguenther.info/Q20_RC.pdf) if we=
 want to maintain security, we need to consider both confidentiality and =
integrity.  For that we need two independent limits:=0D
=0D
1. The number of packets that are successfully encrypted and decrypted.=0D=

=0D
2. The number of packets that are *unsuccessfully* decrypted.=0D
=0D
We have the former already.  The latter is what this issue tracks.  Once =
the limit is at risk of being exceeded, updating keys will force the atta=
cker to start over.=0D
=0D
Based on Felix's recommendation I am going to suggest that we limit forge=
ry attempts to 2^36.  I have confirmed this with a close reading of the p=
aper and concur.  There is a significant difference here between AES-GCM =
and ChaCha20+Poly1305 but we believe that setting a single limit is the b=
est approach.  I will create a pull request to document this approach sho=
rtly.=0D
=0D
## Notes=0D
=0D
We could split the recommendation and allow a larger limit for AES-GCM, b=
ut I don't believe that 2^36 (~68 billion) is a significant barrier.  For=
 reference, if you were able to saturate a 10Gbps link with 50 byte IP pa=
ckets that contained plausible QUIC packets, and the recipient didn't tre=
at this as DoS traffic, it would take 5 minutes.  If we assume that [Fast=
ly's recent performance numbers](https://www.fastly.com/blog/measuring-qu=
ic-vs-tcp-computational-efficiency) are more likely representative of pot=
ential packet rates, then the limit goes up to 10s of hours.  I would poi=
nt out that that volume of unproductive traffic is probably a good reason=
 to use something other than a key update to deal with the sender.=0D
=0D
A reminder that the underlying analysis assumes that packets are all 2^14=
 in size, which is the record size in TLS.  This is ~10 times larger than=
 typical MTU on the Internet and many QUIC packets might be smaller than =
that, so - at least for AES-GCM - recommending a 2^36 limit is more conse=
rvative than necessary.  However, if we were to allow for different limit=
s, we'd have to address the question of packet size, as a 2^16 byte packe=
t will be used by some deployments.  For ChaCha20+Poly1305, the only valu=
e that matters is the number of packets, so we avoid that question.=0D
=0D
Quoting from Felix's email for reference (with permission):=0D
=0D
> To briefly recall, the analysis of the QUIC and DTLS 1.3 record layers =
in terms of robustness when handling maliciously injected packets we did =
[1] and I presented at QUIPS [2] suggests that a security degradation lin=
ear not only in regularly sent/received packets but *also* in the number =
of rejected packets should be taken into account. I.e., the unreliable-tr=
ansport nature affects the integrity bounds, with unnoticeable, hence tol=
erated forgery attempts linearly degrading the underlying AEAD schemes' a=
uthenticity security level.=0D
>=0D
> I revisited the analysis done for TLS [3] together with Kenny, with the=
 following conclusions (for both DTLS 1.3 and QUIC):=0D
> =0D
> 1. AES-GCM=0D
>    The (integrity) bounds in [3] for AES-GCM were already calculated wi=
th v =3D 2^60 forgery attempts ("verification attempts"). Therefore, the =
same data limits as for TLS 1.3 can be applied, but maybe a note should b=
e added to the RFC that forgery attempts should be counted (and limited t=
o < 2^60, if that's a practical concern).=0D
>=0D
> 2. ChaCha20+Poly1305=0D
>    Integrity degradation for ChaCha20+Poly1305 is v * 2^-93 (for v veri=
fication/forgery attempts). In order to keep the same safety margin of 2^=
-57 as for TLS 1.3 [4], the number of overall received records (correctly=
 verifying or rejected) must be limited to 2^36, requiring counting of re=
ceived records and an according note in the RFC.=0D
>=0D
> We hope that these conclusions can answer the open questions on AEAD li=
mits. Please let me know if any further investigation is needed, or in wh=
ich way we can best contribute to adding the according notes to the draft=
 standards.=0D
>=0D
> Best,=0D
> Felix=0D
>=0D
> (with Christian, Kenny, Marc)=0D
>=0D
> [1] Marc Fischlin, Felix G=C3=BCnther, Christian Janson. "Robust Channe=
ls: Handling Unreliable Networks in the Record Layers of QUIC and DTLS". =
Preliminary version at http://felixguenther.info/Q20_RC.pdf=0D
>=0D
> [2] QUIPS slides on Robust Channels: https://github.com/chris-wood/NDSS=
20-QUIPS/blob/master/slides/quips2020_rch.pdf=0D
>=0D
> [3] Atul Luykx, Kenny Paterson. Limits on Authenticated Encryption Use =
in TLS". http://www.isg.rhul.ac.uk/~kp/TLS-AEbounds.pdf=0D
>=0D
> [4] https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8446#section-5.5=0D
=0D
=0D
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<p></p>=0D
<p>tl;dr We need to recommend limits on the number of failed decryptions.=
</p>=0D
<h2>Introduction</h2>=0D
<p>At <a href=3D"https://www.ndss-symposium.org/ndss2020/cfp-quips-worksh=
op/" rel=3D"nofollow">the QUIPS workshop</a> one of the side discussions =
concentrated on the quality of the analysis of the <a href=3D"https://too=
ls.ietf.org/html/rfc8446#section-5.5" rel=3D"nofollow">record limits in T=
LS</a> and the applicability of that analysis to QUIC.</p>=0D
<p>Felix G=C3=BCnther, along with Marc Fischlin, Christian Janson, and Ke=
nny Paterson have done a little analysis, based on <a href=3D"https://fel=
ixguenther.info/Q20_RC.pdf" rel=3D"nofollow">the QUIPS paper Felix presen=
ted at QUIPS</a> and the <a href=3D"https://www.isg.rhul.ac.uk/~kp/TLS-AE=
bounds.pdf" rel=3D"nofollow">paper by Atul Luykx and Kenny</a> we used to=
 set limits in TLS.</p>=0D
<p>There are two relevant limits in this analysis:</p>=0D
<ol>=0D
<li>=0D
<p>The confidentiality bound, which is usually expressed in terms of adva=
ntage an attacker gains in being able to break confidentiality of records=
/packets as they get more data from valid packets.  For instance, in AES-=
GCM, the analysis shows that after seeing 2^24.5 packets (almost 24 milli=
on) the attacker has a 2^-60 better chance than pure chance of winning th=
e IND-CPA game.</p>=0D
</li>=0D
<li>=0D
<p>The forgery bound, which is again expressed as an probably of an attac=
ker successfully creating a forged record/packet.  Thanks to the analysis=
 done previously, we know that AES-GCM and ChaCha20+Poly1305 have a forge=
ry chance of 2^-57 after 2^60 and 2^36 forgery attempts respectively.</p>=
=0D
</li>=0D
</ol>=0D
<p>The current text just points to TLS 1.3, which recommends the use of k=
ey updates to protect confidentiality.  But TLS has a forgery tolerance o=
f 0: a single failed forgery attempt causes the connection to break.  QUI=
C (and DTLS) allow for multiple forgeries to be ignored, so we need to fa=
ctor that in.</p>=0D
<h2>Proposed Solution</h2>=0D
<p>As discussed in <a href=3D"https://felixguenther.info/Q20_RC.pdf" rel=3D=
"nofollow">this paper</a> if we want to maintain security, we need to con=
sider both confidentiality and integrity.  For that we need two independe=
nt limits:</p>=0D
<ol>=0D
<li>=0D
<p>The number of packets that are successfully encrypted and decrypted.</=
p>=0D
</li>=0D
<li>=0D
<p>The number of packets that are <em>unsuccessfully</em> decrypted.</p>=0D=

</li>=0D
</ol>=0D
<p>We have the former already.  The latter is what this issue tracks.  On=
ce the limit is at risk of being exceeded, updating keys will force the a=
ttacker to start over.</p>=0D
<p>Based on Felix's recommendation I am going to suggest that we limit fo=
rgery attempts to 2^36.  I have confirmed this with a close reading of th=
e paper and concur.  There is a significant difference here between AES-G=
CM and ChaCha20+Poly1305 but we believe that setting a single limit is th=
e best approach.  I will create a pull request to document this approach =
shortly.</p>=0D
<h2>Notes</h2>=0D
<p>We could split the recommendation and allow a larger limit for AES-GCM=
, but I don't believe that 2^36 (~68 billion) is a significant barrier.  =
For reference, if you were able to saturate a 10Gbps link with 50 byte IP=
 packets that contained plausible QUIC packets, and the recipient didn't =
treat this as DoS traffic, it would take 5 minutes.  If we assume that <a=
 href=3D"https://www.fastly.com/blog/measuring-quic-vs-tcp-computational-=
efficiency" rel=3D"nofollow">Fastly's recent performance numbers</a> are =
more likely representative of potential packet rates, then the limit goes=
 up to 10s of hours.  I would point out that that volume of unproductive =
traffic is probably a good reason to use something other than a key updat=
e to deal with the sender.</p>=0D
<p>A reminder that the underlying analysis assumes that packets are all 2=
^14 in size, which is the record size in TLS.  This is ~10 times larger t=
han typical MTU on the Internet and many QUIC packets might be smaller th=
an that, so - at least for AES-GCM - recommending a 2^36 limit is more co=
nservative than necessary.  However, if we were to allow for different li=
mits, we'd have to address the question of packet size, as a 2^16 byte pa=
cket will be used by some deployments.  For ChaCha20+Poly1305, the only v=
alue that matters is the number of packets, so we avoid that question.</p=
>=0D
<p>Quoting from Felix's email for reference (with permission):</p>=0D
<blockquote>=0D
<p>To briefly recall, the analysis of the QUIC and DTLS 1.3 record layers=
 in terms of robustness when handling maliciously injected packets we did=
 [1] and I presented at QUIPS [2] suggests that a security degradation li=
near not only in regularly sent/received packets but <em>also</em> in the=
 number of rejected packets should be taken into account. I.e., the unrel=
iable-transport nature affects the integrity bounds, with unnoticeable, h=
ence tolerated forgery attempts linearly degrading the underlying AEAD sc=
hemes' authenticity security level.</p>=0D
<p>I revisited the analysis done for TLS [3] together with Kenny, with th=
e following conclusions (for both DTLS 1.3 and QUIC):</p>=0D
<ol>=0D
<li>=0D
<p>AES-GCM<br>=0D
The (integrity) bounds in [3] for AES-GCM were already calculated with v =
=3D 2^60 forgery attempts ("verification attempts"). Therefore, the same =
data limits as for TLS 1.3 can be applied, but maybe a note should be add=
ed to the RFC that forgery attempts should be counted (and limited to &lt=
; 2^60, if that's a practical concern).</p>=0D
</li>=0D
<li>=0D
<p>ChaCha20+Poly1305<br>=0D
Integrity degradation for ChaCha20+Poly1305 is v * 2^-93 (for v verificat=
ion/forgery attempts). In order to keep the same safety margin of 2^-57 a=
s for TLS 1.3 [4], the number of overall received records (correctly veri=
fying or rejected) must be limited to 2^36, requiring counting of receive=
d records and an according note in the RFC.</p>=0D
</li>=0D
</ol>=0D
<p>We hope that these conclusions can answer the open questions on AEAD l=
imits. Please let me know if any further investigation is needed, or in w=
hich way we can best contribute to adding the according notes to the draf=
t standards.</p>=0D
<p>Best,<br>=0D
Felix</p>=0D
<p>(with Christian, Kenny, Marc)</p>=0D
<p>[1] Marc Fischlin, Felix G=C3=BCnther, Christian Janson. "Robust Chann=
els: Handling Unreliable Networks in the Record Layers of QUIC and DTLS".=
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Recently, I have been looking into how ack-frequency affects the=0D
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As can be seen, ack10 is better than ack2, but lags behind ack1/8cwnd.=0D=

That's because there are still frequent ACKs. They take considerable amou=
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If we want to see QUIC being as lightweight as TLS over TCP, it is=0D
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Based on this, if we are to change what we have in the base drafts, I'd=0D=

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[2], rather than just changing the default ack policy from ack2 to ack10.=
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@ad-l Can I request that you review this analysis for correctness?  I know that you had reservations about the claims here.

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  Branch: refs/heads/forgery-limit
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  Define an anti-forgery limit

This defines a limit on the number of packets that can fail
authentication before you have to use new keys.

There is a big hole here in that AES-CCM (that is, the AEAD based on
CBC-MAC) is currently permitted, but we have no analysis to support
either the confidentiality limits in TLS 1.3 or the integrity limits in
this document.  It is probably OK, but that is not the standard we apply
here.

So this might have to remain open until we get some sort of resolution
on that issue.  My initial opinion is to cut CCM from the draft
until/unless an analysis is produced.

Closes #3619.



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This defines a limit on the number of packets that can fail
authentication before you have to use new keys.

There is a big hole here in that AES-CCM (that is, the AEAD based on
CBC-MAC) is currently permitted, but we have no analysis to support
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this document.  It is probably OK, but that is not the standard we apply
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So this might have to remain open until we get some sort of resolution
on that issue.  My initial opinion is to cut CCM from the draft
until/unless an analysis is produced.

Closes #3619.
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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3620

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  * Define an anti-forgery limit

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md (32)

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<p>This defines a limit on the number of packets that can fail<br>
authentication before you have to use new keys.</p>
<p>There is a big hole here in that AES-CCM (that is, the AEAD based on<br>
CBC-MAC) is currently permitted, but we have no analysis to support<br>
either the confidentiality limits in TLS 1.3 or the integrity limits in<br>
this document.  It is probably OK, but that is not the standard we apply<br>
here.</p>
<p>So this might have to remain open until we get some sort of resolution<br>
on that issue.  My initial opinion is to cut CCM from the draft<br>
until/unless an analysis is produced.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3619.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="610556615" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3619" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3619/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3619">#3619</a>.</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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<h4>Patch Links:</h4>
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-04-29 (Wed, 29 Apr 2020)

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  DPLPMTUD fixes

A few minor tweaks based on review of the latest DPLPMTUD draft.

If I never have to type DPLPMTUD ever again, I'll be happy.

Closes #3217.


  Commit: 2c874dc1c477a7d8f07d5ad232251c73069f0a97
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  More explicit 'probe for the MTU'


  Commit: cb6d26caf615a6fd3e036cc54ac1b881fc6504fd
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  Helpful tweak to existing text


  Commit: b192a052bf006dc2689ea526cc80746ab409aff1
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  Merge pull request #3606 from quicwg/dplpmtudtdtd

DPLPMTUD fixes


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-- Commit Summary --

  * Use a list for TLS contributors too

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md (41)

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>Use a list for TLS contributors too</li>
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