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> Thank you for your changes! I think it might be useful to distinguish the "IP packet" from how we commonly use "packet", so I propose (i) simply use "PMTU probe", and (ii) saying explicitly what that refers to. I've made some suggestions through the text to this end; see what you think.

OK - There are already "IP packets" and "QUIC packets" - so some other term works fro me.

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<p>Thank you for your changes! I think it might be useful to distinguish the "IP packet" from how we commonly use "packet", so I propose (i) simply use "PMTU probe", and (ii) saying explicitly what that refers to. I've made some suggestions through the text to this end; see what you think.</p>
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<p>OK - There are already "IP packets" and "QUIC packets" - so some other term works fro me.</p>

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Section 3 has just one subsection, which goes into detail about how QUIC is similar and different than TCP.  This might be better as its own top-level section.

I was always taught to avoid a) sections that only subsections and no text of their own, b) sections that have precisely one subsection, c) lists with fewer than 3 items in them.

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<p>Section 3 has just one subsection, which goes into detail about how QUIC is similar and different than TCP.  This might be better as its own top-level section.</p>
<p>I was always taught to avoid a) sections that only subsections and no text of their own, b) sections that have precisely one subsection, c) lists with fewer than 3 items in them.</p>

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I noticed these when re-reading the text.
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<p>I noticed these when re-reading the text.</p>

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Thanks kazuho, 1/8 or 1/4 cwnd seems reasonable, as does using Ack 2 for the first part of slow start ... that closed to what we proposed. And yes there will anyway be cases where any default does not work.

If QUIC decides to retain Ack 2, can we at least capture that Ack 2 with QUIC doesn't have the same return path performance as Ack 2 with TCP - so that people know that less frequent Acts are something to think about from the start?

I'm doing a talk in PANRG this week, and have decided to talk-through this topic (I was already going to talk about things related to return paths). That'll give people a view of some data - and a little thought about the implications this has for QUIC, and whether there is an incentive for network device to thin QUIC to restore performance.

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<p>Thanks kazuho, 1/8 or 1/4 cwnd seems reasonable, as does using Ack 2 for the first part of slow start ... that closed to what we proposed. And yes there will anyway be cases where any default does not work.</p>
<p>If QUIC decides to retain Ack 2, can we at least capture that Ack 2 with QUIC doesn't have the same return path performance as Ack 2 with TCP - so that people know that less frequent Acts are something to think about from the start?</p>
<p>I'm doing a talk in PANRG this week, and have decided to talk-through this topic (I was already going to talk about things related to return paths). That'll give people a view of some data - and a little thought about the implications this has for QUIC, and whether there is an incentive for network device to thin QUIC to restore performance.</p>

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@gorryfair : I'd be in support of saying that ack thinning happens for TCP and cite those studies, and that in the absence of that, there might be throughput consequences for QUIC. I think we've said exactly that in other words in #3706, but if we want to say more there, that's fine with me. That would make this an editorial issue, but I'm entirely happy to do more words there.

I am against changing the recommendation here for another arbitrary recommendation. I think the right approach is to allow endpoints to specify this during a connection, which is where the extension is helpful. As @kazuho notes, our hope is that the extension gets widely deployed.

If you want to make the argument for the extension to become part of the base draft, that's a different conversation, but that's not the one we're having here.

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<p>I am against changing the recommendation here for another arbitrary recommendation. I think the right approach is to allow endpoints to specify this during a connection, which is where the extension is helpful. As <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/kazuho/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/kazuho">@kazuho</a> notes, our hope is that the extension gets widely deployed.</p>
<p>If you want to make the argument for the extension to become part of the base draft, that's a different conversation, but that's not the one we're having here.</p>

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This issue and its fix has been pretty well discussed already. The proposal is borderline on a design change, so I've marked this as design to get some visibility during the next consensus call.



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<p>This issue and its fix has been pretty well discussed already. The proposal is borderline on a design change, so I've marked this as design to get some visibility during the next consensus call.</p>

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  Stateless reset nits


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  Merge pull request #3708 from quicwg/ianswett-stateless-reset-nits

Stateless reset nits


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  Date:   2020-05-27 (Wed, 27 May 2020)

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  Add more context and text around ACK frequency


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  Apply suggestions from code review

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  Commit: 9e6d2f14f14f6ffc50d6c31d4143223202411e4c
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  ian/mt comments


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  Apply suggestions from code review

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  reflow


  Commit: b3ea75ac4d66a725efc76fe77f028e7fe1903df3
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  Date:   2020-06-01 (Mon, 01 Jun 2020)

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  Merge pull request #3706 from quicwg/jri/ackf

Add more context and text around ACK frequency


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/da7b9411b72e...b3ea75ac4d66


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Attempting to summarise the current status of this issue as a chair: there appears to have been a fair amount of discussion about making a design change, with representatives both in favour and against. 

It appears there is no omnipotent default policy, choosing an optimal one depends on many factors.

The editors have landed an editorial change that attempts to better describe the rationale behind the QUICS's **current** design and highlights some of the factors. There may be further editorial improvements but they no not need to block the design issue. The proposal therefore is to close this issue with no design change.

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<p>Attempting to summarise the current status of this issue as a chair: there appears to have been a fair amount of discussion about making a design change, with representatives both in favour and against.</p>
<p>It appears there is no omnipotent default policy, choosing an optimal one depends on many factors.</p>
<p>The editors have landed an editorial change that attempts to better describe the rationale behind the QUICS's <strong>current</strong> design and highlights some of the factors. There may be further editorial improvements but they no not need to block the design issue. The proposal therefore is to close this issue with no design change.</p>

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This is spawned from #3690 and #3704.

The discussion there revealed that SERVER_BUSY has implied semantics that aren't helpful and it would be better to have a more generic message instead.

This tracks that.  The resolution might be #3704, depending on how we resolve this.

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<p>This is spawned from <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="623535922" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3690" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3690/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3690">#3690</a> and <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="625355132" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3704" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3704/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3704">#3704</a>.</p>
<p>The discussion there revealed that SERVER_BUSY has implied semantics that aren't helpful and it would be better to have a more generic message instead.</p>
<p>This tracks that.  The resolution might be <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="625355132" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3704" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3704/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3704">#3704</a>, depending on how we resolve this.</p>

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>  
 A client MUST expand the payload of all UDP datagrams carrying Initial packets
-to at least 1200 bytes, by adding PADDING frames to the Initial packet or by
-coalescing the Initial packet; see {{packet-coalesce}}.  Sending a UDP datagram
-of this size ensures that the network path from the client to the server
-supports a reasonable Maximum Transmission Unit (MTU).  Padding datagrams also
-helps reduce the amplitude of amplification attacks caused by server responses
-toward an unverified client address; see {{address-validation}}.
+to at least the smallest allowed maximum packet size (1200 bytes) by adding
+PADDING frames to the Initial packet or by coalescing the Initial packet; see
+{{packet-coalesce}}.  Sending a UDP datagram of this size ensures that the
+network path from the client to the server supports a reasonable Path Maximum
+Transmission Unit (PMTU).  This also helps reduce the amplitude of amplification
+attacks caused by server responses toward an unverified client address; see
+{{address-validation}}.
 
 Enforcement of the max_udp_payload_size transport parameter

I'd move this paragraph above the one above, since they both talk about maximum packet size and in particular this paragraph uses "additional limit" which reads better one paragraph up.

>  
 Datagrams containing Initial packets MAY exceed 1200 bytes if the client
 believes that the network path and peer both support the size that it chooses.
 
 UDP datagrams MUST NOT be fragmented at the IP layer.  In IPv4
 {{!IPv4=RFC0791}}, the DF bit MUST be set to prevent fragmentation on the path.
 
-A server MUST discard an Initial packet that is carried in a UDP datagram with
-a payload that is less than 1200 bytes. A server MAY also immediately close the
-connection by sending a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame with an error code of
-PROTOCOL_VIOLATION; see {{immediate-close-hs}}.
+A server MUST discard an Initial packet that is carried in a UDP datagram with a
+payload that is less than the smallest allowed maximum packet size  of 1200

```suggestion
payload that is less than the smallest allowed maximum packet size of 1200
```

> -{{?RFC8085}}.
-
-An endpoint SHOULD use Datagram Packetization Layer PMTU Discovery
-({{!DPLPMTUD=I-D.ietf-tsvwg-datagram-plpmtud}}) or implement Path MTU Discovery
-(PMTUD) {{!RFC1191}} {{!RFC8201}} to determine whether the path to a destination
-will support a desired message size without fragmentation.
-
-In the absence of these mechanisms, QUIC endpoints SHOULD NOT send IP packets
-larger than 1280 bytes. Assuming the minimum IP header size, this results in a
-QUIC maximum packet size of 1232 bytes for IPv6 and 1252 bytes for IPv4. A QUIC
-implementation MAY be more conservative in computing the QUIC maximum packet
-size to allow for unknown tunnel overheads or IP header options/extensions.
+An endpoint SHOULD use DPLPMTUD ({{dplpmtud}}) or PMTUD ({{pmtud}}) to determine
+whether the path to a destination will support a desired message size without
+fragmentation.  In the absence of these mechanisms, QUIC endpoints SHOULD NOT
+send IP packets larger than the minimum QUIC packet size.

```suggestion
send IP packets larger than the smallest allowed maximum packet size.
```

> -implementation MAY be more conservative in computing the QUIC maximum packet
-size to allow for unknown tunnel overheads or IP header options/extensions.
+An endpoint SHOULD use DPLPMTUD ({{dplpmtud}}) or PMTUD ({{pmtud}}) to determine
+whether the path to a destination will support a desired message size without
+fragmentation.  In the absence of these mechanisms, QUIC endpoints SHOULD NOT
+send IP packets larger than the minimum QUIC packet size.
+
+Both DPLPMTUD and PMTUD send IP packets that are larger than the current maximum
+packet size.  We refer to these as PMTU probes.  All QUIC packets that are not
+sent in a PMTU probe SHOULD be sized to fit within the maximum packet size to
+avoid the packet being fragmented or dropped {{?RFC8085}}.
+
+If a QUIC endpoint determines that the PMTU between any pair of local and remote
+IP addresses has fallen below the smallest allowed maximum packet size of 1200
+bytes, it MUST immediately cease sending QUIC packets, except for those in PMTU
+probes, on the affected path.  An endpoint MAY terminate the connection if an

This isn't new text, but tt seems like these two statements may be contradictory?  Should this be "except for those in PMTU probes or containing connection close frames, on the affected path."?

>  
-Section 6.3 of {{!DPLPMTUD}} provides considerations for implementing Datagram
-Packetization Layer PMTUD (DPLPMTUD) with QUIC.
+If a QUIC endpoint determines that the PLPMTU between any pair of local and
+remote IP addresses has fallen below the size needed to support the minimum QUIC
+packet size (BASE_PLPMTU), it MUST immediately cease sending QUIC packets on the
+affected path. An endpoint MAY terminate the connection if an alternative path

This seems a bit repetitive of 3862-3866.  It's also still confusing or potentially contradictory to me.

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My personal preference is to not merge #3704.  A generic error code is more useful.

There is a small loss here in that a server has to use a non-intuitive code for the case that it finds it can't continue with a connection due to load, but I am comfortable with that. 

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<p>My personal preference is to not merge <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="625355132" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3704" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3704/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3704">#3704</a>.  A generic error code is more useful.</p>
<p>There is a small loss here in that a server has to use a non-intuitive code for the case that it finds it can't continue with a connection due to load, but I am comfortable with that.</p>

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#3694 was already merged, and there's some question about whether it was actually editorial.  This issue tracks the question retroactively.  The proposal here is to leave #3694 merged / close #3704.  The alternative is to merge #3704, reverting the other PR.

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I prefer the generic message, so I would like to see the current state of affairs retained. That is,
- use CONNECTION_REFUSED going forward (instead of SERVER_BUSY), and
- do not merge #3704.

If there is a need for other more specific error codes, we can deal with that separately.

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Closes #3707.
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  * Minor editorial fix

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    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md (18)

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<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3707.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="628301354" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3707" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3707/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3707">#3707</a>.</p>

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As as implementer, I hope that this issue will be closed with no action, assuming that we do not have strong reason for making the change.

Up until now, we have tried hard to have minimum divergence in the record encryption algorithms being used in QUIC and TLS. We use HKDF and AEAD the same way, with the only difference being the labels. The proposed change would be a departure, as it means that the AEAD layer of QUIC would no longer be using a sequence number, but rather a tuple of epoch and a sequence number.

It does break the existing AEAD API of picotls, as it assumes the use of a 64-bit sequence number (this might have been a shortsighted decision, but anyways).

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> With that said, as you observed in our call today, it seems like there is an easy fix: both AES_GCM and ChaCha20/Poly1305 take a 96-bit nonce which we are just left-padding with 0s. If we are willing to restrict to <2^32 key changes, we could encode the epoch in those 0s, right?

Am I correct to understand that this is effectively the same as XORing the first four bytes of IV with the epoch? I think that is the case because the moment an endpoint changes the send epoch is when it moves to a new set of key and IV.

Based on that view, I wonder what the benefit is by changing IV from _HKDF<sup>epoch</sup>_ to _HKDF<sup>epoch</sup> XOR epoch_ is. I'm eager to admit that I do not understand the problem, but I would assume that, when applying HKDF multiple times, we do need to retain a counter counting how many times HKDF was applied, and then mix that into the output.

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<p>As as implementer, I hope that this issue will be closed with no action, assuming that we do not have strong reason for making the change.</p>
<p>Up until now, we have tried hard to have minimum divergence in the record encryption algorithms being used in QUIC and TLS. We use HKDF and AEAD the same way, with the only difference being the labels. The proposed change would be a departure, as it means that the AEAD layer of QUIC would no longer be using a sequence number, but rather a tuple of epoch and a sequence number.</p>
<p>It does break the existing AEAD API of picotls, as it assumes the use of a 64-bit sequence number (this might have been a shortsighted decision, but anyways).</p>
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<p>With that said, as you observed in our call today, it seems like there is an easy fix: both AES_GCM and ChaCha20/Poly1305 take a 96-bit nonce which we are just left-padding with 0s. If we are willing to restrict to &lt;2^32 key changes, we could encode the epoch in those 0s, right?</p>
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<p>Am I correct to understand that this is effectively the same as XORing the first four bytes of IV with the epoch? I think that is the case because the moment an endpoint changes the send epoch is when it moves to a new set of key and IV.</p>
<p>Based on that view, I wonder what the benefit is by changing IV from <em>HKDF<sup>epoch</sup></em> to <em>HKDF<sup>epoch</sup> XOR epoch</em> is. I'm eager to admit that I do not understand the problem, but I would assume that, when applying HKDF multiple times, we do need to retain a counter counting how many times HKDF was applied, and then mix that into the output.</p>

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Kazuho, you have the gist of it.  There is no material performance impact.  The base nonce that you xor the packet number with is still constant.  But the theory would be that you don't get confusion about which epoch was used.  The counter-argument being that the keys (and the nonce) should be completely different anyway.

As you can see, the concern is that there is a risk inherent.

As for divergences, it's not divergent from DTLS, which is where this is coming from.  Because the analytical framework for the record/packet layer in DTLS is more similar to QUIC, that makes this somewhat more compelling.

All that said, I'm inclined toward no action myself, but I want that to have a firmer basis than we currently have.  I am prepared to accept that we won't get that though, in which case we will just have to make a call.

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<p>Kazuho, you have the gist of it.  There is no material performance impact.  The base nonce that you xor the packet number with is still constant.  But the theory would be that you don't get confusion about which epoch was used.  The counter-argument being that the keys (and the nonce) should be completely different anyway.</p>
<p>As you can see, the concern is that there is a risk inherent.</p>
<p>As for divergences, it's not divergent from DTLS, which is where this is coming from.  Because the analytical framework for the record/packet layer in DTLS is more similar to QUIC, that makes this somewhat more compelling.</p>
<p>All that said, I'm inclined toward no action myself, but I want that to have a firmer basis than we currently have.  I am prepared to accept that we won't get that though, in which case we will just have to make a call.</p>

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+1 to leaving the current state. CONNECTION_REFUSED is generic enough to be useful in the situation @marten-seemann described, and while it's nice to have more specific error codes, I don't think there's an abundant need for a BUSY-like signal, without also getting into the business of prescribing things like time-based retry for QUIC clients.

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<p>+1 to leaving the current state. CONNECTION_REFUSED is generic enough to be useful in the situation <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/marten-seemann/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/marten-seemann">@marten-seemann</a> described, and while it's nice to have more specific error codes, I don't think there's an abundant need for a BUSY-like signal, without also getting into the business of prescribing things like time-based retry for QUIC clients.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/dplpmtud-merge
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-06-02 (Tue, 02 Jun 2020)

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1cd8875b1540d45a7d9d3b6d834115fe97f49c87  Editorial tweaks


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This is the easy bit.  The hard bit is updating all the manual cross references to sections of -recovery...



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<p>This is the easy bit.  The hard bit is updating all the manual cross references to sections of -recovery...</p>

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> Having that said, I'd hope that we can agree on one principle: QUIC cannot respect unauthenticated information any more than TLS over TCP does. Otherwise, QUIC becomes more prone to MITM attacks that TLS over TCP is - a disobedience to our charter.

@kazuho No introduction of error codes can possibly make QUIC more prone to this than TCP + TLS. A TCP connection can be completely interrupted at any time with an unauthenticated RST. In that sense I don't think it's possible to make QUIC more prone to MITM attacks than TCP + TLS, since at the very least we only have a small window for the similar MITM interruption.

> To function reliably on the internet a client has to use heuristics and unauthenticated information in order to provide a good user experience and not overwhelm server resources.

> > That might be true, but our experience with TLS over TCP is that we do not need an error code for the purpose.

It's not a fair comparison, as TCP does not have an opportunity to fallback to anything. You posit that we have to view the QUIC specification in isolation from the existence TCP or any "happy eyeballs" mechanism, and I don't totally disagree but I don't think it follows we should make decision _ignoring_ the realities of deploying QUIC on the Internet. That reality is, today, that QUIC will not work 100%, whereas we expect TCP to function. If we can add things to the specification which aid in a seamless coexistence of QUIC and alternatives, why would we not?

> Am I correct to understand that the reason you are advocating for having more error codes is to allow a server to control the behavior of client for future connection attempts? Assuming that is the case, I'd oppose to having such error codes regardless of how we would describe them. Because IMO that is effectively about making QUIC more prone to attacks than TLS over TCP is.

I don't think I fully understand your point here. You asserted that the client "should refrain from using an unauthenticated signal for determining what to do with future connection attempts". I maintain that this is fantastical. The client has to do _something_ with future connection attempts whether we prescribe a behavior or not, and as such it is abundantly useful to be able to influence, if not dictate, the behavior of clients with more explicit signals from the server.

As it is I am fine with leaving this discussion with the generic CONNECTION_REFUSED and calling it a day, but I think there's value in discussing the real-world considerations here, which was @marten-seemann's original motivation.

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<p>Having that said, I'd hope that we can agree on one principle: QUIC cannot respect unauthenticated information any more than TLS over TCP does. Otherwise, QUIC becomes more prone to MITM attacks that TLS over TCP is - a disobedience to our charter.</p>
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<p>It's not a fair comparison, as TCP does not have an opportunity to fallback to anything. You posit that we have to view the QUIC specification in isolation from the existence TCP or any "happy eyeballs" mechanism, and I don't totally disagree but I don't think it follows we should make decision <em>ignoring</em> the realities of deploying QUIC on the Internet. That reality is, today, that QUIC will not work 100%, whereas we expect TCP to function. If we can add things to the specification which aid in a seamless coexistence of QUIC and alternatives, why would we not?</p>
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<p>Am I correct to understand that the reason you are advocating for having more error codes is to allow a server to control the behavior of client for future connection attempts? Assuming that is the case, I'd oppose to having such error codes regardless of how we would describe them. Because IMO that is effectively about making QUIC more prone to attacks than TLS over TCP is.</p>
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<p>I don't think I fully understand your point here. You asserted that the client "should refrain from using an unauthenticated signal for determining what to do with future connection attempts". I maintain that this is fantastical. The client has to do <em>something</em> with future connection attempts whether we prescribe a behavior or not, and as such it is abundantly useful to be able to influence, if not dictate, the behavior of clients with more explicit signals from the server.</p>
<p>As it is I am fine with leaving this discussion with the generic CONNECTION_REFUSED and calling it a day, but I think there's value in discussing the real-world considerations here, which was <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/marten-seemann/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/marten-seemann">@marten-seemann</a>'s original motivation.</p>

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+1 to retaining the current state.

I'm repeating my comment on #3694, but when QUIC is used as the only transport protocol (rather than with happy-eyeballing), it has to be resilient to MITM attacks as TLS over TCP is.

TLS over TCP does not have an unauthenticated error code that tells the client to stop trying to connecting to the server. We cannot have such thing in QUIC, because if we do, QUIC becomes more prone to MITM attacker than TLS over TCP is.

CONNECTION_REFUSED is fine in this respect, because it does not indicate to the client what the reason was. But error codes like SERVER_BUSY or TRY_LATER would have the implications that we cannot have.

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<p>+1 to retaining the current state.</p>
<p>I'm repeating my comment on <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="624436695" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3694" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3694/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3694">#3694</a>, but when QUIC is used as the only transport protocol (rather than with happy-eyeballing), it has to be resilient to MITM attacks as TLS over TCP is.</p>
<p>TLS over TCP does not have an unauthenticated error code that tells the client to stop trying to connecting to the server. We cannot have such thing in QUIC, because if we do, QUIC becomes more prone to MITM attacker than TLS over TCP is.</p>
<p>CONNECTION_REFUSED is fine in this respect, because it does not indicate to the client what the reason was. But error codes like SERVER_BUSY or TRY_LATER would have the implications that we cannot have.</p>

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Yeah, I know, I was going to do that separately. But fair enough. I'll get that in tomorrow.

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<p>Yeah, I know, I was going to do that separately. But fair enough. I'll get that in tomorrow.</p>

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This uses a packet with a short header because a) we don't have an
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This uses a packet with a short header because a) we don&#39;t have an example of that already; b) that gives me an opportunity to show what the different key derivations look like, including key updates; and c) this example won&#39;t need to be updated when the draft number changes, or even when the final spec is complete.

I chose the shortest possible packet with the smallest possible payload for this.  Values are taken from neqo, so it&#39;s a little annoying to reproduce.

Assistance in validating the values here would be appreciated.  We already interoperate, so I expect these to work, but a sanity check is always helpful.

Closes #3488.
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  * Example of ChaCha20-Poly1305

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<p>This uses a packet with a short header because a) we don't have an example of that already; b) that gives me an opportunity to show what the different key derivations look like, including key updates; and c) this example won't need to be updated when the draft number changes, or even when the final spec is complete.</p>
<p>I chose the shortest possible packet with the smallest possible payload for this.  Values are taken from neqo, so it's a little annoying to reproduce.</p>
<p>Assistance in validating the values here would be appreciated.  We already interoperate, so I expect these to work, but a sanity check is always helpful.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3488.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="573913851" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3488" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3488/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3488">#3488</a>.</p>

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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
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Not much more, but if the server sends, then the zero-length connection
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> +## ChaCha20-Poly1305 Short Header Packet
+
+This example shows some of the steps required to protect a packet with
+a short header.  This example uses AEAD_CHACHA20_POLY1305.
+
+In this example, TLS produces an application write secret from which a server
+uses HKDF-Expand-Label to produce four values: a key, an IV, a header
+protection key, and the secret that will be used after keys are updated (this
+last value is not used further in this example).
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+      5443f18203a07d6060f688f30f21632b
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This should be `secret` instead of `server_initial_secret` here, right?

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3712#discussion_r433698827">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +## ChaCha20-Poly1305 Short Header Packet
+
+This example shows some of the steps required to protect a packet with
+a short header.  This example uses AEAD_CHACHA20_POLY1305.
+
+In this example, TLS produces an application write secret from which a server
+uses HKDF-Expand-Label to produce four values: a key, an IV, a header
+protection key, and the secret that will be used after keys are updated (this
+last value is not used further in this example).
+
+~~~
+secret
+    = 9ac312a7f877468ebe69422748ad00a1
+      5443f18203a07d6060f688f30f21632b
+
+key = HKDF-Expand-Label(server_initial_secret, &quot;quic key&quot;, _, 32)
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<p>This should be <code>secret</code> instead of <code>server_initial_secret</code> here, right?</p>

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> +      73573685608597d0efcb076b0ab7a7a4
+
+ku  = HKDF-Expand-Label(server_initial_secret, "quic ku", _, 32)
+    = 1223504755036d556342ee9361d25342
+      1a826c9ecdf3c7148684b36b714881f9
+~~~
+
+The following shows the steps involved in protecting a minimal packet with an
+empty Destination Connection ID. This packet contains a single HANDSHAKE_DONE
+frame (that is, a payload of just 0x1e) and has a packet number of 0. In this
+example, a packet number of length 3 is used to avoid having to pad the payload
+of the packet; PADDING frames would be needed if the packet number is encoded
+on fewer octets.
+
+~~~
+pn                 = 0

I'd prefer to use a non-zero value here.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3712#discussion_r433714598">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +      73573685608597d0efcb076b0ab7a7a4
+
+ku  = HKDF-Expand-Label(server_initial_secret, &quot;quic ku&quot;, _, 32)
+    = 1223504755036d556342ee9361d25342
+      1a826c9ecdf3c7148684b36b714881f9
+~~~
+
+The following shows the steps involved in protecting a minimal packet with an
+empty Destination Connection ID. This packet contains a single HANDSHAKE_DONE
+frame (that is, a payload of just 0x1e) and has a packet number of 0. In this
+example, a packet number of length 3 is used to avoid having to pad the payload
+of the packet; PADDING frames would be needed if the packet number is encoded
+on fewer octets.
+
+~~~
+pn                 = 0
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I added a test case to quic-go using the values from this PR, and the test passes.

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> +      73573685608597d0efcb076b0ab7a7a4
+
+ku  = HKDF-Expand-Label(server_initial_secret, "quic ku", _, 32)
+    = 1223504755036d556342ee9361d25342
+      1a826c9ecdf3c7148684b36b714881f9
+~~~
+
+The following shows the steps involved in protecting a minimal packet with an
+empty Destination Connection ID. This packet contains a single HANDSHAKE_DONE
+frame (that is, a payload of just 0x1e) and has a packet number of 0. In this
+example, a packet number of length 3 is used to avoid having to pad the payload
+of the packet; PADDING frames would be needed if the packet number is encoded
+on fewer octets.
+
+~~~
+pn                 = 0

Easier said than done.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3712#discussion_r433725156">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +      73573685608597d0efcb076b0ab7a7a4
+
+ku  = HKDF-Expand-Label(server_initial_secret, &quot;quic ku&quot;, _, 32)
+    = 1223504755036d556342ee9361d25342
+      1a826c9ecdf3c7148684b36b714881f9
+~~~
+
+The following shows the steps involved in protecting a minimal packet with an
+empty Destination Connection ID. This packet contains a single HANDSHAKE_DONE
+frame (that is, a payload of just 0x1e) and has a packet number of 0. In this
+example, a packet number of length 3 is used to avoid having to pad the payload
+of the packet; PADDING frames would be needed if the packet number is encoded
+on fewer octets.
+
+~~~
+pn                 = 0
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> +      73573685608597d0efcb076b0ab7a7a4
+
+ku  = HKDF-Expand-Label(server_initial_secret, "quic ku", _, 32)
+    = 1223504755036d556342ee9361d25342
+      1a826c9ecdf3c7148684b36b714881f9
+~~~
+
+The following shows the steps involved in protecting a minimal packet with an
+empty Destination Connection ID. This packet contains a single HANDSHAKE_DONE
+frame (that is, a payload of just 0x1e) and has a packet number of 0. In this
+example, a packet number of length 3 is used to avoid having to pad the payload
+of the packet; PADDING frames would be needed if the packet number is encoded
+on fewer octets.
+
+~~~
+pn                 = 0

Why's that? What is special about 0?

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<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3712#discussion_r433728165">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +      73573685608597d0efcb076b0ab7a7a4
+
+ku  = HKDF-Expand-Label(server_initial_secret, &quot;quic ku&quot;, _, 32)
+    = 1223504755036d556342ee9361d25342
+      1a826c9ecdf3c7148684b36b714881f9
+~~~
+
+The following shows the steps involved in protecting a minimal packet with an
+empty Destination Connection ID. This packet contains a single HANDSHAKE_DONE
+frame (that is, a payload of just 0x1e) and has a packet number of 0. In this
+example, a packet number of length 3 is used to avoid having to pad the payload
+of the packet; PADDING frames would be needed if the packet number is encoded
+on fewer octets.
+
+~~~
+pn                 = 0
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<p>Why's that? What is special about 0?</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/chacha20-sample
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      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b485b7922ff6f5ed61613e93a96c76afdf060528
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-06-02 (Tue, 02 Jun 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
    M protection-samples.js

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  Generate values with the script instead

And use a large packet number, to show packet number truncation in the
examples.  This has leading zeroes, which might trip people up if they
make bad assumptions about the length of the encoding based on value
they get back.



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OK, I have hacked something together.  This is completely untested so far.  I'm going to try to feed this into our implementation somehow.  That's non-trivial, but we'll see.

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> +      73573685608597d0efcb076b0ab7a7a4
+
+ku  = HKDF-Expand-Label(secret, "quic ku", _, 32)
+    = 1223504755036d556342ee9361d25342
+      1a826c9ecdf3c7148684b36b714881f9
+~~~
+
+The following shows the steps involved in protecting a minimal packet with an
+empty Destination Connection ID. This packet contains a single PING frame (that
+is, a payload of just 0x01) and has a packet number of 654360564. In this
+example, using a packet number of length 3 (that is, 49140 is encoded) avoids
+having to pad the payload of the packet; PADDING frames would be needed if the
+packet number is encoded on fewer octets.
+
+~~~
+pn                 = 654360564 (decimal)

It's hard to believe that this number came out of a random number generator, but that's where it came from.  That `pn & 0xffffff == pn & 0ffff` is also pure chance, but it seems like a useful property to try to use.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3712#discussion_r433767813">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +      73573685608597d0efcb076b0ab7a7a4
+
+ku  = HKDF-Expand-Label(secret, &quot;quic ku&quot;, _, 32)
+    = 1223504755036d556342ee9361d25342
+      1a826c9ecdf3c7148684b36b714881f9
+~~~
+
+The following shows the steps involved in protecting a minimal packet with an
+empty Destination Connection ID. This packet contains a single PING frame (that
+is, a payload of just 0x01) and has a packet number of 654360564. In this
+example, using a packet number of length 3 (that is, 49140 is encoded) avoids
+having to pad the payload of the packet; PADDING frames would be needed if the
+packet number is encoded on fewer octets.
+
+~~~
+pn                 = 654360564 (decimal)
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<p>It's hard to believe that this number came out of a random number generator, but that's where it came from.  That <code>pn &amp; 0xffffff == pn &amp; 0ffff</code> is also pure chance, but it seems like a useful property to try to use.</p>

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> +      73573685608597d0efcb076b0ab7a7a4
+
+ku  = HKDF-Expand-Label(server_initial_secret, "quic ku", _, 32)
+    = 1223504755036d556342ee9361d25342
+      1a826c9ecdf3c7148684b36b714881f9
+~~~
+
+The following shows the steps involved in protecting a minimal packet with an
+empty Destination Connection ID. This packet contains a single HANDSHAKE_DONE
+frame (that is, a payload of just 0x1e) and has a packet number of 0. In this
+example, a packet number of length 3 is used to avoid having to pad the payload
+of the packet; PADDING frames would be needed if the packet number is encoded
+on fewer octets.
+
+~~~
+pn                 = 0

This packet was from me reading the logs of our implementation, which sends HANDSHAKE_DONE in packet 0.  But I decided that it might be better to make this reproducible, and it wasn't THAT hard to write some JS.

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<p><b>@martinthomson</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3712#discussion_r433768945">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +      73573685608597d0efcb076b0ab7a7a4
+
+ku  = HKDF-Expand-Label(server_initial_secret, &quot;quic ku&quot;, _, 32)
+    = 1223504755036d556342ee9361d25342
+      1a826c9ecdf3c7148684b36b714881f9
+~~~
+
+The following shows the steps involved in protecting a minimal packet with an
+empty Destination Connection ID. This packet contains a single HANDSHAKE_DONE
+frame (that is, a payload of just 0x1e) and has a packet number of 0. In this
+example, a packet number of length 3 is used to avoid having to pad the payload
+of the packet; PADDING frames would be needed if the packet number is encoded
+on fewer octets.
+
+~~~
+pn                 = 0
</pre>
<p>This packet was from me reading the logs of our implementation, which sends HANDSHAKE_DONE in packet 0.  But I decided that it might be better to make this reproducible, and it wasn't THAT hard to write some JS.</p>

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Without evidence this is a problem, I strongly prefer the status quo which aligns more closely with TLS.

If we get new information, we can always fix this in QUICv2.

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<p>Without evidence this is a problem, I strongly prefer the status quo which aligns more closely with TLS.</p>
<p>If we get new information, we can always fix this in QUICv2.</p>

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I think the spec is ambiguous when it says in section 17.2:

> PING, PADDING, and CONNECTION_CLOSE frames are also permitted. An endpoint that receives an Initial packet containing other frames can either discard the packet as spurious or treat it as a connection error.

and:

>Handshake packets MAY contain CONNECTION_CLOSE frames.

But CONNECTION_CLOSE can mean 0x1c or 0x1d.  Are both permitted during the handshake?

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<p>I think the spec is ambiguous when it says in section 17.2:</p>
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<p>PING, PADDING, and CONNECTION_CLOSE frames are also permitted. An endpoint that receives an Initial packet containing other frames can either discard the packet as spurious or treat it as a connection error.</p>
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<p>and:</p>
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<p>But CONNECTION_CLOSE can mean 0x1c or 0x1d.  Are both permitted during the handshake?</p>

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@rpaulo: In this case, the intent is to allow both. Unless explicitly specified, I would read the text to mean both types of CONNECTION_CLOSE frames.

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Okay, if more people think that way, we can close with no action.

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<p>Okay, if more people think that way, we can close with no action.</p>

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The question is directly addressed in the TLS specification. It says _CONNECTION_CLOSE frames signaling errors at the QUIC layer (type 0x1c) MAY appear in any packet number space. CONNECTION_CLOSE frames signaling application errors (type 0x1d) MUST only appear in the application data packet number space._ (https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-tls.html#section-4-4.2).

This was the outcome of several issues that we discussed recently, #3440 was the fix that we applied.

I agree that there is ambiguity in the transport draft and that we'd better have an editorial refinement.

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<p>The question is directly addressed in the TLS specification. It says <em>CONNECTION_CLOSE frames signaling errors at the QUIC layer (type 0x1c) MAY appear in any packet number space. CONNECTION_CLOSE frames signaling application errors (type 0x1d) MUST only appear in the application data packet number space.</em> (<a href="https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-tls.html#section-4-4.2" rel="nofollow">https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-tls.html#section-4-4.2</a>).</p>
<p>This was the outcome of several issues that we discussed recently, <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="561091342" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3440" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3440/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3440">#3440</a> was the fix that we applied.</p>
<p>I agree that there is ambiguity in the transport draft and that we'd better have an editorial refinement.</p>

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So on the surface, there is no inconsistency: the two sections permit CONNECTION_CLOSE.

But the question about the different types of CONNECTION_CLOSE is more relevant than @janaiyengar's response might imply.  We currently require that CONNECTION_CLOSE of type 0x1d (application close) is not sent in Initial or Handshake packets.  So that's a drafting error, and we might reasonably take this as an editorial issue.

However, if the question is about what a reaction to receiving an application CONNECTION_CLOSE in one of those packets, we might consider a different posture.

If you get an application CONNECTION_CLOSE in an Initial packet that is otherwise valid, you probably want to drop the connection.  And you probably don't want to start sending CONNECTION_CLOSE in response every time, because that leads to madness.  But this is a general problem: if you detect and error and that error keeps being repeated, it probably isn't a good idea to generate a CONNECTION_CLOSE in response to every infraction.

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<p>So on the surface, there is no inconsistency: the two sections permit CONNECTION_CLOSE.</p>
<p>But the question about the different types of CONNECTION_CLOSE is more relevant than <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/janaiyengar/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/janaiyengar">@janaiyengar</a>'s response might imply.  We currently require that CONNECTION_CLOSE of type 0x1d (application close) is not sent in Initial or Handshake packets.  So that's a drafting error, and we might reasonably take this as an editorial issue.</p>
<p>However, if the question is about what a reaction to receiving an application CONNECTION_CLOSE in one of those packets, we might consider a different posture.</p>
<p>If you get an application CONNECTION_CLOSE in an Initial packet that is otherwise valid, you probably want to drop the connection.  And you probably don't want to start sending CONNECTION_CLOSE in response every time, because that leads to madness.  But this is a general problem: if you detect and error and that error keeps being repeated, it probably isn't a good idea to generate a CONNECTION_CLOSE in response to every infraction.</p>

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Any chance we could also update the initial salt?

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<p>Any chance we could also update the initial salt?</p>

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@martinthomson Thank you for updating this example. I just updated the test-case in quic-go and I can confirm that the values match.

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I was saving that for the final version, by popular demand.  If you have a reason to change, then I can do that (I'll also want to update the keys for Retry in that case).

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Closing this now that I have added a ChaCha example.  Those updates aren't nearly as nice, but they will suffice.

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<p>Closing this now that I have added a ChaCha example.  Those updates aren't nearly as nice, but they will suffice.</p>

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Closed #3506.

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<p>Closed <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="578532416" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3506" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3506/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3506">#3506</a>.</p>

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I'm going to re-close the can of worms I half-opened in my earlier comment and take this as editorial.

>From memory, the larger question of how to deal with junk is something we've discussed several times.  If anyone wants to take that up, I'm happy to do that, but let's at least correct the obvious error.

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<p>I'm going to re-close the can of worms I half-opened in my earlier comment and take this as editorial.</p>
<p>From memory, the larger question of how to deal with junk is something we've discussed several times.  If anyone wants to take that up, I'm happy to do that, but let's at least correct the obvious error.</p>

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When we prohibited the use of application-layer CONNECTION_CLOSE in
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When we prohibited the use of application-layer CONNECTION_CLOSE in
these packets, we should have updated the text in the description of the
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Closes #3713.
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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3714

-- Commit Summary --

  * Narrow allowed CONNECTION_CLOSE in Initial/Handshake

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (12)

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<p>When we prohibited the use of application-layer CONNECTION_CLOSE in<br>
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<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3713.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="629565419" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3713" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3713/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3713">#3713</a>.</p>

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As already mentioned, there's little analytical support regarding key updates in QUIC (and DTLS), including [our analysis](https://www.felixguenther.info/docs/QUIPS2020_RobustChannels.pdf). As stated for DTLS, my understanding is that some form of authentication of the epoch number would be helpful for a clean analysis.

My thought is: with QUIC's current approach, you could _in principle_ have that the key+IV across two epochs collide, which then would mean you can replay packets across those two epochs. If the epoch is authenticated through the AAD, that's prevented. With XOR-ing into the nonce it's more messy, as now you could have a colliding IV 'cancel out' the XOR (the same affects DTLS, actually).

That said, I would expect the concrete loss for key+IV collisions to probably be an additional birthday-bound term in the order of  #epochs^2 / 2^{|key|+|IV|}. Here, I am thinking of #epochs = number of epochs in a connection, coming from an/our analysis viewpoint on the full channel. In extending that to multiple keys one would usually want to abstract out key generation and assume key/IV across all epochs to be independent, hence the birthday bound.

Martin pointed out to me that (a) #epochs might be reduced to the number of currently active epochs (2-3), and (b) |IV| might be too much due to the sequence number range, which may lead to nonce collisions between ranges.

So, overall, while having the epochs in the AAD might be cleaner from an analysis point of view, I don't have a strong basis for that and think no-change likely comes with a small loss only in comparison.

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<p>As already mentioned, there's little analytical support regarding key updates in QUIC (and DTLS), including <a href="https://www.felixguenther.info/docs/QUIPS2020_RobustChannels.pdf" rel="nofollow">our analysis</a>. As stated for DTLS, my understanding is that some form of authentication of the epoch number would be helpful for a clean analysis.</p>
<p>My thought is: with QUIC's current approach, you could <em>in principle</em> have that the key+IV across two epochs collide, which then would mean you can replay packets across those two epochs. If the epoch is authenticated through the AAD, that's prevented. With XOR-ing into the nonce it's more messy, as now you could have a colliding IV 'cancel out' the XOR (the same affects DTLS, actually).</p>
<p>That said, I would expect the concrete loss for key+IV collisions to probably be an additional birthday-bound term in the order of  #epochs^2 / 2^{|key|+|IV|}. Here, I am thinking of #epochs = number of epochs in a connection, coming from an/our analysis viewpoint on the full channel. In extending that to multiple keys one would usually want to abstract out key generation and assume key/IV across all epochs to be independent, hence the birthday bound.</p>
<p>Martin pointed out to me that (a) #epochs might be reduced to the number of currently active epochs (2-3), and (b) |IV| might be too much due to the sequence number range, which may lead to nonce collisions between ranges.</p>
<p>So, overall, while having the epochs in the AAD might be cleaner from an analysis point of view, I don't have a strong basis for that and think no-change likely comes with a small loss only in comparison.</p>

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In "17.2.5.1. Sending a Retry Packet":

`This value MUST not be equal` -> `This value MUST NOT be equal` 

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<p>In "17.2.5.1. Sending a Retry Packet":</p>
<p><code>This value MUST not be equal</code> -&gt; <code>This value MUST NOT be equal</code></p>

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It sounds like the proposal is to close with no action, or alternatively, to park this issue until new information is available? It would be great if we could resolve this soon, since we are hoping WGLC the next set of documents w/o open design issues.

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It does make sense that we only allow 0x1c during the handshake.

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<p>It does make sense that we only allow 0x1c during the handshake.</p>

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<p><b>@rpaulo</b> approved this pull request.</p>



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I agree with @martinthomson.  Let's leave the salt update to the final version.

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My experience with this suggests that things work fine with just the idle timeout, so closing this.

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<p>My experience with this suggests that things work fine with just the idle timeout, so closing this.</p>

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Closed #2656.

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Closes #3715
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<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3715.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="629810766" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3715" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3715/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3715">#3715</a></p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: 8318c14e9a1b1ce079a3b6e3711d1514b3259514
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8318c14e9a1b1ce079a3b6e3711d1514b3259514
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  Date:   2020-06-03 (Wed, 03 Jun 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  typo


  Commit: 102f3997bf4d8dbf096831b0403096b780ca87b7
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  Merge pull request #3716 from quicwg/jri/mustnot

Fix typo


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With Google's QUIC deployment, we're already experiencing version ossification due to middleboxes inspecting initial packets - some of our traffic is stuck on older versions of GoogleQUIC because of this. Changing the salts every time we change the version number will help remind everyone that this is not an ossified aspect of the protocol. The cost to implementors is pretty much zero.

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<p>With Google's QUIC deployment, we're already experiencing version ossification due to middleboxes inspecting initial packets - some of our traffic is stuck on older versions of GoogleQUIC because of this. Changing the salts every time we change the version number will help remind everyone that this is not an ossified aspect of the protocol. The cost to implementors is pretty much zero.</p>
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Now that the drafts are not changing as much as they used to, it might be the right time to consider editorial efforts such as revisiting the current split between quic-transport and quic-tls. Let's imagine that once the RFCs ship, someone wants to build a version of QUIC with a custom handshake/key exchange protocol - they want to deviate as little as possible from QUICv1, but just want to swap TLS out for something else. Ideally, they would write a new draft that replaces quic-tls, and not change quic-transport at all. And in order to implement this, readers would not need to read quic-tls.

More specifically, I think we could accomplish this by moving the following sections from quic-tls to quic-transport:
* 5  Packet Protection (except 5.1 Packet Protection Keys)
* 6  Key Update (the interaction with the TLS key schedule would stay in quic-tls but the mechanisms to avoid deadlocks when discarding keys would move to quic-transport)
* 7  Security of Initial Messages

What do folks think? I could write up a PR to help make this happen but I'd like to get a sense of whether there's interest first.

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<p>Now that the drafts are not changing as much as they used to, it might be the right time to consider editorial efforts such as revisiting the current split between quic-transport and quic-tls. Let's imagine that once the RFCs ship, someone wants to build a version of QUIC with a custom handshake/key exchange protocol - they want to deviate as little as possible from QUICv1, but just want to swap TLS out for something else. Ideally, they would write a new draft that replaces quic-tls, and not change quic-transport at all. And in order to implement this, readers would not need to read quic-tls.</p>
<p>More specifically, I think we could accomplish this by moving the following sections from quic-tls to quic-transport:</p>
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<li>5  Packet Protection (except 5.1 Packet Protection Keys)</li>
<li>6  Key Update (the interaction with the TLS key schedule would stay in quic-tls but the mechanisms to avoid deadlocks when discarding keys would move to quic-transport)</li>
<li>7  Security of Initial Messages</li>
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<p>What do folks think? I could write up a PR to help make this happen but I'd like to get a sense of whether there's interest first.</p>

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Thanks @fxguenther. Based on this I am happy to close with no action

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What @DavidSchinazi says makes sense to me, so I would be in favor of shipping draft-29 with new salts.

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  Branch: refs/heads/missing-period-10k
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  Changed paths:
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  Restore yet another missing period



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The longer the draft sits in my edit buffer, the more opportunities I have to see this sort of thing.
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-- Commit Summary --

  * Fix another reference format

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (2)

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<p>The longer the draft sits in my edit buffer, the more opportunities I have to see this sort of thing.</p>

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<h4>You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:</h4>
<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3719'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3719</a></p>

<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>Fix another reference format</li>
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<h4>File Changes</h4>
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    <strong>M</strong>
    <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3719/files#diff-db016291106766877c4921a79f8596e0">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>
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There don't appear to be too many to fix up:

```
$ egrep -n 'Section [4-9](\.[0-9]*)? of {{QUIC-REC' *.md
draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:1828:(PTO, see Section 5.3 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}). Specifically, the client MUST send
draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:2396:This timer SHOULD be set as described in Section 5.3 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}} and
draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:2670:time out soon, such as within a PTO; see Section 6.6 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.
draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:3445:Section 6 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, rely on acknowledgments to manage their
draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:4380:control state; see Section 6.5 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.
```

This seems to cover it.

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<p>There don't appear to be too many to fix up:</p>
<pre><code>$ egrep -n 'Section [4-9](\.[0-9]*)? of {{QUIC-REC' *.md
draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:1828:(PTO, see Section 5.3 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}). Specifically, the client MUST send
draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:2396:This timer SHOULD be set as described in Section 5.3 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}} and
draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:2670:time out soon, such as within a PTO; see Section 6.6 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.
draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:3445:Section 6 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, rely on acknowledgments to manage their
draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:4380:control state; see Section 6.5 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.
</code></pre>
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Great, I will mark this proposal-ready, where the proposal is to close with no action. We'll confirm that together with the WGLC on -29.

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
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  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Narrow allowed CONNECTION_CLOSE in Initial/Handshake

When we prohibited the use of application-layer CONNECTION_CLOSE in
these packets, we should have updated the text in the description of the
packets also.

Closes #3713.


  Commit: 8afa46f476ba710189efb3688df59a07d54133cf
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  Date:   2020-06-04 (Thu, 04 Jun 2020)

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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #3714 from quicwg/only-transport-close

Narrow allowed CONNECTION_CLOSE in Initial/Handshake


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/102f3997bf4d...8afa46f476ba


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The following NiTs are from a careful read of QUIC transport. I expect al=
l are editorial and that the editors may be able to perform suitable chan=
ges to improve reading.=0D
=0D
- to which=0D
/deciding which streams to dedicate resources to/deciding the stream to w=
hich resources should be dedicated/=0D
=0D
- that=0D
/operations which an application MUST/operations that an application MUST=
/=0D
=0D
- avoid sides =E2=80=A6 causes.. =0D
/because the opening of either send or receive sides causes the stream to=
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ve side causes the stream to be open in both directions./=0D
=0D
- add /a/=0D
/The sending part of stream/The sending part of a stream/=0D
=0D
- Other sentences include /frame/=0D
/is created when the first STREAM, STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED, or RESET_STREAM i=
s received for that stream./is created when the first STREAM, STREAM_DATA=
_BLOCKED, or RESET_STREAM frame is received for that stream./=0D
=0D
- This did not parse for me, is this better?=0D
- /A sender MUST NOT send STREAM or STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED after sending a R=
ESET_STREAM; that is, in the terminal states and in the "Reset Sent" stat=
e. /A sender MUST NOT send a STREAM or STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED frame that is =
in the terminal states and in the "Reset Sent" state (after sending a RES=
ET_STREAM frame)./=0D
=0D
- is this /can/MAY/  - because MUST is used for illegal frames?=0D
/A receiver can send STOP_SENDING in any state /=0D
=0D
- include word frame to be consistent with other text?=0D
/STREAM frames received after sending STOP_SENDING are/STREAM frames rece=
ived after sending a STOP_SENDING frame are/=0D
=0D
- include word frame to be consistent with other text?=0D
/can terminate one direction by sending a RESET_STREAM/can terminate one =
direction by sending a RESET_STREAM frame/=0D
=0D
- /which/that/,  add /to be/=0D
/method which will allow packets with that connection ID to be routed bac=
k to the endpoint and identified by the endpoint upon receipt/method that=
 allows packets with that connection ID to be routed back to the endpoint=
 and to be identified by the endpoint upon receipt/=0D
=0D
- rate control?=0D
/Servers MAY rate control these packets to avoid storms of Version Negoti=
ation packets./=0D
- perhaps /rate limit/ or /control the rate of/=0D
=0D
The words appear to depend on the wrong previous sentence:=0D
/Servers MAY rate control these packets to avoid storms of Version Negoti=
ation packets. Otherwise, servers MUST drop packets that specify unsuppor=
ted versions./=0D
- appear to be an =E2=80=9Cotherwise=E2=80=9D to rate control, but is thi=
s actually intended as an =E2=80=9Cotherwise=E2=80=9D to =E2=80=9CSHOULD =
send a Version Negotiation packet=E2=80=9D?=0D
=0D
-/which/that/, =0D
/There are certain operations which an application MUST/There are certain=
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=0D
- or any number more permitted by initial cwnd and initial_max_stream_dat=
a_uni, the current text needs to not suggest this is unlimited!=0D
/As a result, this handshake may consist of as few as 4 UDP datagrams, or=
 any number more./=0D
=0D
- are required to comply with implied =E2=80=A6=0D
/Endpoints are required to comply with the restrictions implied by these =
parameters;/=0D
- change /implied/ to /defined/ or perhaps remove the word?=0D
=0D
- is this the same, I wasn=E2=80=99t sure what the original ordering was?=
=0D
/Implementations MUST support buffering at least 4096 bytes of data recei=
ved in CRYPTO frames out of order. /Implementations MUST support bufferin=
g at least 4096 bytes of data received in out of order CRYPTO frames./ =0D=

=0D
- awkward multiple use of /used/? perhaps:=0D
/Address validation is used by QUIC to avoid being used for a traffic amp=
lification attack./Address validation in QUIC avoids QUIC being used for =
a traffic amplification attack./=0D
=0D
- I did not understand this, please add something to explain:=0D
- /Sending padded datagrams ensures that the server is not overly constra=
ined by the amplification restriction./=0D
=0D
- please be careful about the layer at which s size is expressed.=0D
/in a UDP datagram of at least 1200 bytes/=0D
- Is this actually a UDP datagram or size 1200 or a payload of 1200B (as =
previously stated in the section) or something different?=0D
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<p>rate control?<br>=0D
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<ul>=0D
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/Address validation is used by QUIC to avoid being used for a traffic amp=
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Section: Flow Control {#flow-control}=0D
The present text only states the reasons why flow control limits are need=
ed, and resource commitments. It does not yet motivate the use of adding =
credit when this is needed - which is also an important design considerat=
ion for a user of QUIC transport, as it is for http. =0D
- That is, the section should also state the performance implications of =
too little credit - i.e. the tradeoff, by explaining:  =E2=80=9CAdvertisi=
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t performance when it constrains  a stream path using a path that has lar=
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Section: Flow Credit Increments=0D
The following could be taken as a general guidance, when the ID says: =E2=
=80=9CAs an optimization, an endpoint could send frames related to flow c=
ontrol only when there are other frames to send or when a peer is blocked=
, ensuring that flow control does not cause extra packets to be sent.=E2=80=
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- I do not agree. This appears an optimisation for minimising resource us=
e. It will I expect have a serious negative impact on performance where t=
he path RTT is large, and that case also needs to be mentioned. This is a=
n area where guidance is needed, since the way TCP operates is not descri=
bed in the RFC series and mistakes in this part of the code can have very=
 serious impacts on the performance and dynamics of applications, as well=
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Section: Flow Credit Increments=0D
The following could be taken as a general guidance, when the ID says: =E2=
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- I think this sentence may be well-intended but can be read as encouragi=
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> Section: Flow Credit Increments=0D
The following could be taken as a general guidance, when the ID says: =E2=
=80=9CAs an optimization, an endpoint could send frames related to flow c=
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> - I do not agree. This appears an optimisation for minimising resource =
use. It will I expect have a serious negative impact on performance where=
 the path RTT is large, and that case also needs to be mentioned. This is=
 an area where guidance is needed, since the way TCP operates is not desc=
ribed in the RFC series and mistakes in this part of the code can have ve=
ry serious impacts on the performance and dynamics of applications, as we=
ll as the patterns of traffic on the wire.=0D
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Even if RTT < 40ms we saw a negative impact of this optimization in our q=
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<p>Section: Flow Credit Increments<br>=0D
The following could be taken as a general guidance, when the ID says: =E2=
=80=9CAs an optimization, an endpoint could send frames related to flow c=
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, ensuring that flow control does not cause extra packets to be sent.=E2=80=
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use. It will I expect have a serious negative impact on performance where=
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The transport Draft states:

> An application protocol SHOULD provide guidance about the conditions under which generating a PING is recommended.

This guidance was added to the HTTP Draft in #744, but was subsequently removed.

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<p>The transport Draft states:</p>
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<p>An application protocol SHOULD provide guidance about the conditions under which generating a PING is recommended.</p>
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<p>This guidance was added to the HTTP Draft in <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="251838038" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/744" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/744/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/744">#744</a>, but was subsequently removed.</p>

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I reviewed `draft-ietf-quic-transport-27`, and it is not always clear what a "message" is supposed to mean. It needs clarification in the text to disambiguate between different meanings, and could also benefit from definitions.

Here is a review of the different meanings of "message" I found in the draft:

- **TLS message** (referred to as **cryptographic message** or **cryptographic handshake message**)
- **ICMP message**
- **application message**, which seems to refer to messages sent by applications with their own internal framing (not visible to QUIC, since each stream provides a simple bytestream with no framing)
- **QUIC "message"**, which seems to roughly mean "any QUIC control frame" but this is not defined. In any case, there is no "QUIC message" as such in the base protocol.

The first three meanings are understandable, but the last one should be clarified or removed altogether. Additionally, any usage of "message" not clearly falling into one of these four categories should be clarified.

Here is a breakdown of usages that need clarification:

- [2.] _An alternative view of QUIC unidirectional streams is a **"message"** abstraction of practically unlimited length._
-> this is not exactly the same as an application message. That being said, the quotes make it clear that it is used in an approximate sense.

- [5.1.1.] _Each Connection ID has an associated sequence number to assist in deduplicating **messages**_
-> this seems to refer to `NEW_CONNECTION_ID` and `RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID` frames specifically

- [5.3.] _0-RTT allows **application messages** to be sent by a client before receiving any **messages** from the server_
-> the second occurrence is unclear: does it refer to application messages sent by the server application? Or does it also include TLS messages or other "QUIC messages"?

- [10.3.] _The application protocol exchanges whatever **messages** that are needed to cause both endpoints to agree to close the connection_
-> this is quite clear from the context, but it would be more consistent to use "application messages"

- [14.1.] _An endpoint SHOULD use Datagram Packetization Layer PMTU Discovery (...) to determine whether the path to a destination will support a desired **message** size without fragmentation_
-> this should probably be replaced with "QUIC maximum packet size" as defined just above in the text.

- [21.7.] _QUIC and TLS both contain **messages** that have legitimate uses in some contexts, but that can be abused (..)_
-> this section contains several other occurrences of "message". This is well-defined for TLS, but there is no such thing as a "QUIC message" currently.

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<p></p>
<p>I reviewed <code>draft-ietf-quic-transport-27</code>, and it is not always clear what a "message" is supposed to mean. It needs clarification in the text to disambiguate between different meanings, and could also benefit from definitions.</p>
<p>Here is a review of the different meanings of "message" I found in the draft:</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>TLS message</strong> (referred to as <strong>cryptographic message</strong> or <strong>cryptographic handshake message</strong>)</li>
<li><strong>ICMP message</strong></li>
<li><strong>application message</strong>, which seems to refer to messages sent by applications with their own internal framing (not visible to QUIC, since each stream provides a simple bytestream with no framing)</li>
<li><strong>QUIC "message"</strong>, which seems to roughly mean "any QUIC control frame" but this is not defined. In any case, there is no "QUIC message" as such in the base protocol.</li>
</ul>
<p>The first three meanings are understandable, but the last one should be clarified or removed altogether. Additionally, any usage of "message" not clearly falling into one of these four categories should be clarified.</p>
<p>Here is a breakdown of usages that need clarification:</p>
<ul>
<li>
<p>[2.] <em>An alternative view of QUIC unidirectional streams is a <strong>"message"</strong> abstraction of practically unlimited length.</em><br>
-&gt; this is not exactly the same as an application message. That being said, the quotes make it clear that it is used in an approximate sense.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>[5.1.1.] <em>Each Connection ID has an associated sequence number to assist in deduplicating <strong>messages</strong></em><br>
-&gt; this seems to refer to <code>NEW_CONNECTION_ID</code> and <code>RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID</code> frames specifically</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>[5.3.] <em>0-RTT allows <strong>application messages</strong> to be sent by a client before receiving any <strong>messages</strong> from the server</em><br>
-&gt; the second occurrence is unclear: does it refer to application messages sent by the server application? Or does it also include TLS messages or other "QUIC messages"?</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>[10.3.] <em>The application protocol exchanges whatever <strong>messages</strong> that are needed to cause both endpoints to agree to close the connection</em><br>
-&gt; this is quite clear from the context, but it would be more consistent to use "application messages"</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>[14.1.] <em>An endpoint SHOULD use Datagram Packetization Layer PMTU Discovery (...) to determine whether the path to a destination will support a desired <strong>message</strong> size without fragmentation</em><br>
-&gt; this should probably be replaced with "QUIC maximum packet size" as defined just above in the text.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>[21.7.] <em>QUIC and TLS both contain <strong>messages</strong> that have legitimate uses in some contexts, but that can be abused (..)</em><br>
-&gt; this section contains several other occurrences of "message". This is well-defined for TLS, but there is no such thing as a "QUIC message" currently.</p>
</li>
</ul>

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Reading version -27 of the transport draft, I was surprised to see something called "sequence numbers", until I understood that it had nothing to do with either TCP sequence numbers or QUIC packet numbers.

This is an unfortunate choice of words for two reasons: 1) people familiar with TCP may initially interpret "sequence numbers" in the TCP sense, causing confusion; 2) "packet numbers" and "sequence numbers" are too easily confused.

For instance, I found a single instance in the draft where "sequence numbers" is used to actually mean "packet numbers":

> [7.] The **sequence numbers** used by CRYPTO frames to ensure ordered delivery of cryptographic handshake data start from zero in each packet number space.

And another instance which uses a mix of both expressions:

> [12.3.] This enforces cryptographic separation between the data sent in the different **packet sequence number** spaces.

These instances can be easily fixed, but it would be beneficial to eliminate any source of confusion by renaming "sequence numbers" to something else. A simple suggestion: "connection ID counter".

Babel (RFC6126) has a similar notion of "sequence number", and it uses the unambiguous abbreviation "Seqno" throughout the text: this may be an alternative solution.

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<p>Reading version -27 of the transport draft, I was surprised to see something called "sequence numbers", until I understood that it had nothing to do with either TCP sequence numbers or QUIC packet numbers.</p>
<p>This is an unfortunate choice of words for two reasons: 1) people familiar with TCP may initially interpret "sequence numbers" in the TCP sense, causing confusion; 2) "packet numbers" and "sequence numbers" are too easily confused.</p>
<p>For instance, I found a single instance in the draft where "sequence numbers" is used to actually mean "packet numbers":</p>
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<p>[7.] The <strong>sequence numbers</strong> used by CRYPTO frames to ensure ordered delivery of cryptographic handshake data start from zero in each packet number space.</p>
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<p>And another instance which uses a mix of both expressions:</p>
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<p>[12.3.] This enforces cryptographic separation between the data sent in the different <strong>packet sequence number</strong> spaces.</p>
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<p>These instances can be easily fixed, but it would be beneficial to eliminate any source of confusion by renaming "sequence numbers" to something else. A simple suggestion: "connection ID counter".</p>
<p>Babel (RFC6126) has a similar notion of "sequence number", and it uses the unambiguous abbreviation "Seqno" throughout the text: this may be an alternative solution.</p>

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  Restore yet another missing period


  Commit: 53656c669925f4203fc1829c6f09f24d8d1b2540
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  Merge pull request #3718 from quicwg/missing-period-10k

Restore yet another missing period


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"Packet sequence number" is the full name, but "packet number" is the shorter term used throughout the documents.  I think we need to fix section 7 or anywhere else we use "sequence number".  I'm ok with us using "packet sequence number", but I think "packet number" is preferable.

I really do not want to rename packet number to something else.

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<p>"Packet sequence number" is the full name, but "packet number" is the shorter term used throughout the documents.  I think we need to fix section 7 or anywhere else we use "sequence number".  I'm ok with us using "packet sequence number", but I think "packet number" is preferable.</p>
<p>I really do not want to rename packet number to something else.</p>

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FWIW, I also added tests to quiche using these vectors and they seem to work.

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<p>FWIW, I also added tests to quiche using these vectors and they seem to work.</p>

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I like this direction.  Even if no one ever makes a non-TLS version, I think the document clarity could improve with a change like this.

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<p>I like this direction.  Even if no one ever makes a non-TLS version, I think the document clarity could improve with a change like this.</p>

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Heavy +1 -- one of the goals of nQUIC [1] was to exercise the separation between these two drafts. At the time, there was more coupling than desired. Things are in much better shape now. 

[1] https://eprint.iacr.org/2019/028.pdf

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<p>Heavy +1 -- one of the goals of nQUIC [1] was to exercise the separation between these two drafts. At the time, there was more coupling than desired. Things are in much better shape now.</p>
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@ianswett I agree that "packet number" should not be renamed, it's a central concept of the protocol.

I was suggesting renaming "sequence numbers" instead (as used to track connection IDs)

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<p>I was suggesting renaming "sequence numbers" instead (as used to track connection IDs)</p>

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Sorry for my confusion.  I agree it'd be nice to rename "sequence numbers" in regards to CIDs as well.  Maybe "Connection ID Index"?

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<p>Sorry for my confusion.  I agree it'd be nice to rename "sequence numbers" in regards to CIDs as well.  Maybe "Connection ID Index"?</p>

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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-06-05 (Fri, 05 Jun 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Use 'message' less

The PMTUD one I will add to #3702.  The others I don't plan to fix.

Closes #3724.



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Some of these uses were a little too vague.

The PMTUD one I will add to #3702.  The others I don&#39;t plan to fix.

Closes #3724.
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<p>Some of these uses were a little too vague.</p>
<p>The PMTUD one I will add to <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="625286625" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3702" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3702/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3702">#3702</a>.  The others I don't plan to fix.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3724.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="631028279" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3724" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3724/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3724">#3724</a>.</p>

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I did not fix the ones in the following:

2 - this is clearly intended in the abstract, as you say.

10.3 - this is also in the abstract and I believe clear enough without further qualification

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<p>I did not fix the ones in the following:</p>
<p>2 - this is clearly intended in the abstract, as you say.</p>
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  Branch: refs/heads/master
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-06-02 (Tue, 02 Jun 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  Example of ChaCha20-Poly1305

This uses a packet with a short header because a) we don't have an
example of that already; b) that gives me an opportunity to show what
the different key derivations look like, including key updates; and c)
this example won't need to be updated when the draft number changes, or
even when the final spec is complete.

Closes #3488.


  Commit: b31eb923fb039d69f3d1e0893be1ac1c87585161
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  Date:   2020-06-02 (Tue, 02 Jun 2020)

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  It's more believable to use HANDSHAKE_DONE

Not much more, but if the server sends, then the zero-length connection
ID is more plausible.  Also, it makes reproducing this if necessary a
little bit easier.


  Commit: 1d81fce14c2bff5e4c576c78a1795192460d5539
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-06-02 (Tue, 02 Jun 2020)

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  Log Message:
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  Wrong secret


  Commit: b485b7922ff6f5ed61613e93a96c76afdf060528
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b485b7922ff6f5ed61613e93a96c76afdf060528
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    M protection-samples.js

  Log Message:
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  Generate values with the script instead

And use a large packet number, to show packet number truncation in the
examples.  This has leading zeroes, which might trip people up if they
make bad assumptions about the length of the encoding based on value
they get back.


  Commit: f7a7f5b75bfeb84fbb82627bd342791e48b7ab7c
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  Date:   2020-06-05 (Fri, 05 Jun 2020)

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    M protection-samples.js

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #3712 from quicwg/chacha20-sample

Example of ChaCha20-Poly1305


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/a2a572a92e8e...f7a7f5b75bfe


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That's 3.  Thanks both, I'll take that as sufficient.

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<p>That's 3.  Thanks both, I'll take that as sufficient.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/no-seqno
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
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      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/236b9375190673bd79845dd77771a9824ac1eaec
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-06-05 (Fri, 05 Jun 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Don't use sequence number except for CID

There were two cases where we used "sequence number" when we really
meant something else.

Closes #3725.



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So there are three things here:

1. The mention of sequence number in relation to CRYPTO frames is a mistake.  This should be "offset".

2. Packet numbers are just packet numbers.  Yes, it is a sequence number, but we don't use "sequence" here anywhere else, so that one instance is just a mistake.

3. Sequence numbers for connection IDs.  I'm not inclined to change these.  Using index/indices would be fine, but the risk involved in making a change isn't worth it in my opinion.  As this is sufficiently distinct from the TCP usage, I see no real risk of confusion either.

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<p>So there are three things here:</p>
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<p>The mention of sequence number in relation to CRYPTO frames is a mistake.  This should be "offset".</p>
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<p>Packet numbers are just packet numbers.  Yes, it is a sequence number, but we don't use "sequence" here anywhere else, so that one instance is just a mistake.</p>
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<p>Sequence numbers for connection IDs.  I'm not inclined to change these.  Using index/indices would be fine, but the risk involved in making a change isn't worth it in my opinion.  As this is sufficiently distinct from the TCP usage, I see no real risk of confusion either.</p>
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There were two cases where we used &quot;sequence number&quot; when we really
meant something else.

Closes #3725.
You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3727

-- Commit Summary --

  * Don&#39;t use sequence number except for CID

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (12)

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<p>There were two cases where we used "sequence number" when we really<br>
meant something else.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3725.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="631055331" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3725" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3725/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3725">#3725</a>.</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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> Sequence numbers for connection IDs. I'm not inclined to change these. Using index/indices would be fine, but the risk involved in making a change isn't worth it in my opinion. As this is sufficiently distinct from the TCP usage, I see no real risk of confusion either.

+1. I agree that they are sufficiently distinct.

Also, I do not think we'd want to go down the path of changing the terms that are used in TCP to something else. To give an example, "FIN" in QUIC is different than that in TCP. Do we need to look for such cases and change all the names? I think making such changes could cause more confusion.

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<p>Sequence numbers for connection IDs. I'm not inclined to change these. Using index/indices would be fine, but the risk involved in making a change isn't worth it in my opinion. As this is sufficiently distinct from the TCP usage, I see no real risk of confusion either.</p>
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<p>+1. I agree that they are sufficiently distinct.</p>
<p>Also, I do not think we'd want to go down the path of changing the terms that are used in TCP to something else. To give an example, "FIN" in QUIC is different than that in TCP. Do we need to look for such cases and change all the names? I think making such changes could cause more confusion.</p>

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On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 4:31 PM Martin Thomson <notifications@github.com>
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> So there are three things here:
>
>    1.
>
>    The mention of sequence number in relation to CRYPTO frames is a
>    mistake. This should be "offset".
>
>
Agreed. This is just wrong.



>    1.
>
>    Packet numbers are just packet numbers. Yes, it is a sequence number,
>    but we don't use "sequence" here anywhere else, so that one instance is
>    just a mistake.
>
> Agreed. I think it's quite likely this is the result of my simultaneously
trying to submit edits to (D)TLS and QUIC.


>    1.
>
>    Sequence numbers for connection IDs. I'm not inclined to change these.
>    Using index/indices would be fine, but the risk involved in making a change
>    isn't worth it in my opinion. As this is sufficiently distinct from the TCP
>    usage, I see no real risk of confusion either.
>
> +1


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On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 4:31 PM Martin Thomson &lt;notifications@github.com&gt;<br>
wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; So there are three things here:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;    1.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;    The mention of sequence number in relation to CRYPTO frames is a<br>
&gt;    mistake. This should be &quot;offset&quot;.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
Agreed. This is just wrong.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
&gt;    1.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;    Packet numbers are just packet numbers. Yes, it is a sequence number,<br>
&gt;    but we don&#39;t use &quot;sequence&quot; here anywhere else, so that one instance is<br>
&gt;    just a mistake.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Agreed. I think it&#39;s quite likely this is the result of my simultaneously<br>
trying to submit edits to (D)TLS and QUIC.<br>
<br>
<br>
&gt;    1.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;    Sequence numbers for connection IDs. I&#39;m not inclined to change these.<br>
&gt;    Using index/indices would be fine, but the risk involved in making a change<br>
&gt;    isn&#39;t worth it in my opinion. As this is sufficiently distinct from the TCP<br>
&gt;    usage, I see no real risk of confusion either.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; +1<br>


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  Branch: refs/heads/samples-29
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: 6e9bfe065ec60cf63a8e267a0b86a2ac09f9a6cc
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6e9bfe065ec60cf63a8e267a0b86a2ac09f9a6cc
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-06-04 (Thu, 04 Jun 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
    M protection-samples.js

  Log Message:
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  Update Initial salt and Retry secret



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6e9bfe065ec60cf63a8e267a0b86a2ac09f9a6cc  Update Initial salt and Retry secret


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I updated the salts and the test vectors in quic-go, and I can confirm that the values match.

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I was trying to figure out how multiple packets could be coalesced together, and realized that the example that I was looking at was missing a field. For [reference](https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-quic-transport-28#section-17.2.2).
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  * Add missing Length field to header protection example.

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<p>I was trying to figure out how multiple packets could be coalesced together, and realized that the example that I was looking at was missing a field. For <a href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-quic-transport-28#section-17.2.2" rel="nofollow">reference</a>.</p>

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section:  Address Validation for Future Connections
The following RFC2119 keyword appears within a note, which seems wrong, could the RFC2119 recommendation be moved outside of the note?:
/A server SHOULD encode tokens provided with NEW_TOKEN frames and Retry packets differently, and validate the latter more strictly./


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<p>section:  Address Validation for Future Connections<br>
The following RFC2119 keyword appears within a note, which seems wrong, could the RFC2119 recommendation be moved outside of the note?:<br>
/A server SHOULD encode tokens provided with NEW_TOKEN frames and Retry packets differently, and validate the latter more strictly./</p>

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  Date:   2020-06-04 (Thu, 04 Jun 2020)

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  Add missing Length field to header protection example.


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  Merge pull request #3728 from kixelated/length

Add missing Length field to header protection example.


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Editorial NiTs when reviewing the invariant text. These NiTs address readability issues, and do not intend to change the meaning of the text.
You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3730

-- Commit Summary --

  * Expand SCID/DCID
  * Add big endian to notation section
  * not specified -&gt; not encoded for DCID length
  * Make references to concepts clearer
  * Use transport endpoint
  * Remove the bit about rules and just list the assumption

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md (44)
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (56)

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<p>Editorial NiTs when reviewing the invariant text. These NiTs address readability issues, and do not intend to change the meaning of the text.</p>

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<h4>You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:</h4>
<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3730'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3730</a></p>

<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
<ul>
  <li>Expand SCID/DCID</li>
  <li>Add big endian to notation section</li>
  <li>not specified -&gt; not encoded for DCID length</li>
  <li>Make references to concepts clearer</li>
  <li>Use transport endpoint</li>
  <li>Remove the bit about rules and just list the assumption</li>
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  <li>
    <strong>M</strong>
    <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3730/files#diff-56e4bfb748c2d740a862d41ab8d0dcd6">draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md</a>
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    <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3730/files#diff-db016291106766877c4921a79f8596e0">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>
    (56)
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<h4>Patch Links:</h4>
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  <li><a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3730.patch'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3730.patch</a></li>
  <li><a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3730.diff'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3730.diff</a></li>
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Thanks Gorry, these are all quite helpful.


1) I understand the acronyms DCID and SCID, but these aren't really 
expanded on first use in sect 5.1. 

2) There's mention of "the high bit", but there doesn't seem to be any 
statement of bit order saying. Is it worth declaring network byte/bit 
order earlier in section 4? This also clarifies the placement of fields within a byte, which was basically assumed knowledge otherwise.

3) Personally, I don't think: "The length of the Destination Connection 
 ID is not specified" is a great choice of words. Surely, this needs to 
be specified somewhere for a protocol instance to use it?
This reads better as something like: The length of the Destination Connection ID is not encoded in packets with a short header and is not constrained by this specification.
 
4) The brackets here seem to point to connection IDs in general, not the  DCID "(see Section 5.3)". Is it worth writing that as "Connection IDs   are described in Section 5", rather than use brackets? The same is true for versions.

5) In section 5.3: "the wrong endpoint" is taken as the wrong transport 
endpoint, but some of our IP and subIP colleagues would use the term 
endpoint for other uses, so one insertion of "transport" would perhaps help?

6) In the appendix A, this: "QUIC forbids acknowledgments of packets" - 
still has me wondering what is actually intended to be understood, 
because the list of bullets is not guarenteed ... :

/The last packet before a long period of quiescence might be assumed 
to contain an acknowledgment (it should be assumed that QUIC could allow acknowledgments of packets that only contain ACK frames)/

I'm not sure what to say here I think the combination of not... forbids threw me off the meaning.

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<p>Thanks Gorry, these are all quite helpful.</p>
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<li>
<p>I understand the acronyms DCID and SCID, but these aren't really<br>
expanded on first use in sect 5.1.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>There's mention of "the high bit", but there doesn't seem to be any<br>
statement of bit order saying. Is it worth declaring network byte/bit<br>
order earlier in section 4? This also clarifies the placement of fields within a byte, which was basically assumed knowledge otherwise.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Personally, I don't think: "The length of the Destination Connection<br>
ID is not specified" is a great choice of words. Surely, this needs to<br>
be specified somewhere for a protocol instance to use it?<br>
This reads better as something like: The length of the Destination Connection ID is not encoded in packets with a short header and is not constrained by this specification.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>The brackets here seem to point to connection IDs in general, not the  DCID "(see Section 5.3)". Is it worth writing that as "Connection IDs   are described in Section 5", rather than use brackets? The same is true for versions.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>In section 5.3: "the wrong endpoint" is taken as the wrong transport<br>
endpoint, but some of our IP and subIP colleagues would use the term<br>
endpoint for other uses, so one insertion of "transport" would perhaps help?</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>In the appendix A, this: "QUIC forbids acknowledgments of packets" -<br>
still has me wondering what is actually intended to be understood,<br>
because the list of bullets is not guarenteed ... :</p>
</li>
</ol>
<p>/The last packet before a long period of quiescence might be assumed<br>
to contain an acknowledgment (it should be assumed that QUIC could allow acknowledgments of packets that only contain ACK frames)/</p>
<p>I'm not sure what to say here I think the combination of not... forbids threw me off the meaning.</p>
<p>Changes proposed in  <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="631363311" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3730" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3730/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3730">#3730</a></p>

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1bc34aa8776c1817a60c51073af24d48e4ed8b10  fix references


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Ok, I think I got them all. Some of the references were broken, so fixed them.

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Could I ask why you are not giving section headers IDs (via `{#id}`)? When you then use `{{id}}` in the text, it turns into `Section 1` (if you gave that section that ID.)

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<p>Could I ask why you are not giving section headers IDs (via <code>{#id}</code>)? When you then use <code>{{id}}</code> in the text, it turns into <code>Section 1</code> (if you gave that section that ID.)</p>

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  Don't use sequence number except for CID

There were two cases where we used "sequence number" when we really
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Closes #3725.


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  Merge pull request #3727 from quicwg/no-seqno

Don't use sequence number except for CID


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Closed #3725 via #3727.

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  Use 'message' less

The PMTUD one I will add to #3702.  The others I don't plan to fix.

Closes #3724.


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  Merge pull request #3726 from quicwg/no-message

Use 'message' less


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So, I am finally implementing this, and have questions. Section 13.4.2.2 says:
```
   *  For validation to succeed, the total increase in ECT(0), ECT(1),
      and CE counts MUST be no smaller than the total number of QUIC
      packets sent with an ECT codepoint that are newly acknowledged in
      this ACK frame.  This step detects any network remarking from
      ECT(0), ECT(1), or CE codepoints to Not-ECT.
```
What is meant by "total increase" here? I guess it is a delta, but against what? Against the values in the last received ACK frame? Against the "local reference counts" (which aren't really described well either, see below)? Or something else?

Also, I guess the "total increase" compared here is a **sum** of these individual deltas?

```
   *  Any increase in either ECT(0) or ECT(1) counts, plus any increase
      in the CE count, MUST be no smaller than the number of packets
      sent with the corresponding ECT codepoint that are newly
      acknowledged in this ACK frame.  This step detects any erroneous
      network remarking from ECT(0) to ECT(1) (or vice versa).
```
Again, "increase" relative to what?
```
   An endpoint could miss acknowledgements for a packet when ACK frames
   are lost.  It is therefore possible for the total increase in ECT(0),
   ECT(1), and CE counts to be greater than the number of packets
   acknowledged in an ACK frame.  When this happens, and if validation
   succeeds, the local reference counts MUST be increased to match the
   counts in the ACK frame.
```
Same question about "total increase". And what are the "local reference counts", and how are they maintained?

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<p>So, I am finally implementing this, and have questions. Section 13.4.2.2 says:</p>
<pre><code>   *  For validation to succeed, the total increase in ECT(0), ECT(1),
      and CE counts MUST be no smaller than the total number of QUIC
      packets sent with an ECT codepoint that are newly acknowledged in
      this ACK frame.  This step detects any network remarking from
      ECT(0), ECT(1), or CE codepoints to Not-ECT.
</code></pre>
<p>What is meant by "total increase" here? I guess it is a delta, but against what? Against the values in the last received ACK frame? Against the "local reference counts" (which aren't really described well either, see below)? Or something else?</p>
<p>Also, I guess the "total increase" compared here is a <strong>sum</strong> of these individual deltas?</p>
<pre><code>   *  Any increase in either ECT(0) or ECT(1) counts, plus any increase
      in the CE count, MUST be no smaller than the number of packets
      sent with the corresponding ECT codepoint that are newly
      acknowledged in this ACK frame.  This step detects any erroneous
      network remarking from ECT(0) to ECT(1) (or vice versa).
</code></pre>
<p>Again, "increase" relative to what?</p>
<pre><code>   An endpoint could miss acknowledgements for a packet when ACK frames
   are lost.  It is therefore possible for the total increase in ECT(0),
   ECT(1), and CE counts to be greater than the number of packets
   acknowledged in an ACK frame.  When this happens, and if validation
   succeeds, the local reference counts MUST be increased to match the
   counts in the ACK frame.
</code></pre>
<p>Same question about "total increase". And what are the "local reference counts", and how are they maintained?</p>

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I think there are NiTs in the second half the ID also, and while I suspec=
tthese don't change the intended meaning, they nevertheless should be exa=
mined by the editors:=0D
=0D
(1) Concerning ACKS:  I thought the following text was heading in the cor=
rect direction, but I remain concerned that this could be read to suggest=
 that performance of the flow should drive the changes. =0D
/However, an implementer should only deviate from these requirements afte=
r careful consideration of the performance implications of doing so./=0D
- I=E2=80=99d love this to actually say something about congestion. Decis=
ions made in the generation of ACKs can impact the congestion to the netw=
ork and therefore also the performance of other flows that share a path. =
I really think we should say this.=0D
=0D
(2) And collateral impact on other traffic:=0D
/It can also improve connection throughput on severely asymmetric links; =
see Section 3 of {{?RFC3449}}./=0D
- It also can have important congestion impacts on other traffic that sha=
res an asymmetric bottleneck, besides the self-harm of reducing the appli=
cation=E2=80=99s own throughput.=0D
=0D
(3) Justify? This text seems a good recommendation, but there isn=E2=80=99=
t a hint at why this is a strong requirement, could the editors add one l=
ine of text explaining?=0D
/Senders MUST NOT coalesce QUIC packets for different connections into a =
single UDP datagram./=0D
=0D
(4) The size and frequency of ACKs can impact the performance of QUIC, so=
 there are also congestion control reasons to not overly report ACK range=
s. =0D
/This is necessary if an ACK frame would be too large to fit in a packet,=
 however receivers MAY also limit ACK frame size further to preserve spac=
e for other frames./=0D
=0D
(5) This seems an awkward sentence and I could not understand what was in=
tended:=0D
/A receiver MUST NOT bundle an ack-eliciting frame with all packets that =
would otherwise be non-ack-eliciting, to avoid an infinite feedback loop =
of acknowledgements./=0D
- Perhaps /all/ in this is part of my confusion?=0D
=0D
(6) In Section: Versions (missing words)=0D
/Implementors are encouraged to register version numbers of QUIC that the=
y are using for private experimentation on the GitHub wiki at ./=0D
- either way, it may be better to complete the sentence?=0D
=0D
(7) In Section:  PING Frame: (NiT)=0D
- This seems good advice, but I=E2=80=99d love the sentence to include =E2=
=80=9Cto keep a connection alive=E2=80=9D, since at the moment reading th=
is alone, could be seen as rather general guidance. Whereas there are oth=
er uses of PINGs, such as PLPMTUD, and for this use can generate pings by=
 clients and servers:=0D
/An application protocol SHOULD provide guidance about the conditions und=
er which generating a PING is recommended. / e.g. /An application protoco=
l SHOULD provide guidance about the conditions under which it recommends =
generating a PING to keep a connection alive./=0D
=0D
(8) In ACKs: (NiT)=0D
/This is unlike TCP SACKs ({{?RFC2018}})./This is unlike reneging for TCP=
 SACKs ({{?RFC2018}})./=0D
- can we be slightly more explicit about the important difference by addi=
ng a couple of words?=0D
=0D
(9) In Section: STREAM Frames (line break:)=0D
/Offset:/=0D
- The first sentence in /Offset/ appears to have an odd line-break mid se=
ntence.=0D
=0D
(10) In Section: Extension Frames=0D
- /which/that/?=0D
/other extensions which modify or replace the same functionality unless t=
he behavior of the combination is explicitly defined./=0D
=0D
(11) In Section:  Transport Error Codes (line break:)=0D
INVALID_TOKEN (0xB): :/=0D
- The first sentence needs a line-break mid sentence.=0D
=0D
(12) In Section: Version Negotiation =0D
Is this only a recommendation?=0D
=E2=80=9CClients that support multiple QUIC versions SHOULD pad the first=
 packet they send to the largest of the minimum packet sizes across all v=
ersions they support.=E2=80=9D=0D
Whereas in Section: Packet Size=0D
/A client MUST expand the payload of all UDP datagrams carrying Initial p=
ackets to at least 1200 bytes, by adding PADDING frames to the Initial pa=
cket or by coalescing the Initial packet; see {{packet-coalesce}}./=0D
- I think the latter is true, and suspect that version negotiation sectio=
n shouldn=E2=80=99t include this text, but instead refer to the text norm=
 initial packet size.=0D
=0D
(13) In Section: Cryptographic and Transport Handshake=0D
- Is this intended as optional, I think it is required when ECN is to be =
used?=0D
=E2=80=9CAn endpoint can verify support for Explicit Congestion Notificat=
ion (ECN) in the first packets it sends, as described in {{ecn-validation=
}}.=E2=80=9D=0D
- seems to suggest this is optional, whereas, I think actually this is de=
scribing a needed mechanism, so is it better to say =E2=80=9CAn endpoint =
verifies=E2=80=9D as is done in the section: Initiating Connection Migrat=
ion. which says: =E2=80=9CThe new path might not have the same ECN capabi=
lity. Therefore, the endpoint verifies ECN capability as described in {{e=
cn}}.=E2=80=9D  =0D
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<p></p>=0D
<p>I think there are NiTs in the second half the ID also, and while I sus=
pectthese don't change the intended meaning, they nevertheless should be =
examined by the editors:</p>=0D
<p>(1) Concerning ACKS:  I thought the following text was heading in the =
correct direction, but I remain concerned that this could be read to sugg=
est that performance of the flow should drive the changes.<br>=0D
/However, an implementer should only deviate from these requirements afte=
r careful consideration of the performance implications of doing so./</p>=
=0D
<ul>=0D
<li>I=E2=80=99d love this to actually say something about congestion. Dec=
isions made in the generation of ACKs can impact the congestion to the ne=
twork and therefore also the performance of other flows that share a path=
. I really think we should say this.</li>=0D
</ul>=0D
<p>(2) And collateral impact on other traffic:<br>=0D
/It can also improve connection throughput on severely asymmetric links; =
see Section 3 of {{?RFC3449}}./</p>=0D
<ul>=0D
<li>It also can have important congestion impacts on other traffic that s=
hares an asymmetric bottleneck, besides the self-harm of reducing the app=
lication=E2=80=99s own throughput.</li>=0D
</ul>=0D
<p>(3) Justify? This text seems a good recommendation, but there isn=E2=80=
=99t a hint at why this is a strong requirement, could the editors add on=
e line of text explaining?<br>=0D
/Senders MUST NOT coalesce QUIC packets for different connections into a =
single UDP datagram./</p>=0D
<p>(4) The size and frequency of ACKs can impact the performance of QUIC,=
 so there are also congestion control reasons to not overly report ACK ra=
nges.<br>=0D
/This is necessary if an ACK frame would be too large to fit in a packet,=
 however receivers MAY also limit ACK frame size further to preserve spac=
e for other frames./</p>=0D
<p>(5) This seems an awkward sentence and I could not understand what was=
 intended:<br>=0D
/A receiver MUST NOT bundle an ack-eliciting frame with all packets that =
would otherwise be non-ack-eliciting, to avoid an infinite feedback loop =
of acknowledgements./</p>=0D
<ul>=0D
<li>Perhaps /all/ in this is part of my confusion?</li>=0D
</ul>=0D
<p>(6) In Section: Versions (missing words)<br>=0D
/Implementors are encouraged to register version numbers of QUIC that the=
y are using for private experimentation on the GitHub wiki at ./</p>=0D
<ul>=0D
<li>either way, it may be better to complete the sentence?</li>=0D
</ul>=0D
<p>(7) In Section:  PING Frame: (NiT)</p>=0D
<ul>=0D
<li>This seems good advice, but I=E2=80=99d love the sentence to include =
=E2=80=9Cto keep a connection alive=E2=80=9D, since at the moment reading=
 this alone, could be seen as rather general guidance. Whereas there are =
other uses of PINGs, such as PLPMTUD, and for this use can generate pings=
 by clients and servers:<br>=0D
/An application protocol SHOULD provide guidance about the conditions und=
er which generating a PING is recommended. / e.g. /An application protoco=
l SHOULD provide guidance about the conditions under which it recommends =
generating a PING to keep a connection alive./</li>=0D
</ul>=0D
<p>(8) In ACKs: (NiT)<br>=0D
/This is unlike TCP SACKs ({{?RFC2018}})./This is unlike reneging for TCP=
 SACKs ({{?RFC2018}})./</p>=0D
<ul>=0D
<li>can we be slightly more explicit about the important difference by ad=
ding a couple of words?</li>=0D
</ul>=0D
<p>(9) In Section: STREAM Frames (line break:)<br>=0D
/Offset:/</p>=0D
<ul>=0D
<li>The first sentence in /Offset/ appears to have an odd line-break mid =
sentence.</li>=0D
</ul>=0D
<p>(10) In Section: Extension Frames</p>=0D
<ul>=0D
<li>/which/that/?<br>=0D
/other extensions which modify or replace the same functionality unless t=
he behavior of the combination is explicitly defined./</li>=0D
</ul>=0D
<p>(11) In Section:  Transport Error Codes (line break:)<br>=0D
INVALID_TOKEN (0xB): :/</p>=0D
<ul>=0D
<li>The first sentence needs a line-break mid sentence.</li>=0D
</ul>=0D
<p>(12) In Section: Version Negotiation<br>=0D
Is this only a recommendation?<br>=0D
=E2=80=9CClients that support multiple QUIC versions SHOULD pad the first=
 packet they send to the largest of the minimum packet sizes across all v=
ersions they support.=E2=80=9D<br>=0D
Whereas in Section: Packet Size<br>=0D
/A client MUST expand the payload of all UDP datagrams carrying Initial p=
ackets to at least 1200 bytes, by adding PADDING frames to the Initial pa=
cket or by coalescing the Initial packet; see {{packet-coalesce}}./</p>=0D=

<ul>=0D
<li>I think the latter is true, and suspect that version negotiation sect=
ion shouldn=E2=80=99t include this text, but instead refer to the text no=
rm initial packet size.</li>=0D
</ul>=0D
<p>(13) In Section: Cryptographic and Transport Handshake</p>=0D
<ul>=0D
<li>Is this intended as optional, I think it is required when ECN is to b=
e used?<br>=0D
=E2=80=9CAn endpoint can verify support for Explicit Congestion Notificat=
ion (ECN) in the first packets it sends, as described in {{ecn-validation=
}}.=E2=80=9D</li>=0D
<li>seems to suggest this is optional, whereas, I think actually this is =
describing a needed mechanism, so is it better to say =E2=80=9CAn endpoin=
t verifies=E2=80=9D as is done in the section: Initiating Connection Migr=
ation. which says: =E2=80=9CThe new path might not have the same ECN capa=
bility. Therefore, the endpoint verifies ECN capability as described in {=
{ecn}}.=E2=80=9D</li>=0D
</ul>=0D
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What does =E2=80=9Cbundling=E2=80=9D refer to? I think I might now unders=
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In Section Frame Types and Formats, there is a very useful summary of frame types by packet type. As a person with a CC and transport protocol interest, it would be really nice to have had a summary table of key properties that included whether each frame type is ack-eliciting;  whether transmission is controlled by flow-control; and whether transmission is controlled by congestion-control. Is there any chance we can add an extra column say to this table?

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<p>In Section Frame Types and Formats, there is a very useful summary of frame types by packet type. As a person with a CC and transport protocol interest, it would be really nice to have had a summary table of key properties that included whether each frame type is ack-eliciting;  whether transmission is controlled by flow-control; and whether transmission is controlled by congestion-control. Is there any chance we can add an extra column say to this table?</p>

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A top-level comment on the term "probing":
In Section:  Probing a New Path: A packet containing only probing frames is a "probing packet", and a packet containing any other frame is a "non-probing packet". Please be sure that "probe" can not be confused with "probing" in PLPMTUD.

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<p>A top-level comment on the term "probing":<br>
In Section:  Probing a New Path: A packet containing only probing frames is a "probing packet", and a packet containing any other frame is a "non-probing packet". Please be sure that "probe" can not be confused with "probing" in PLPMTUD.</p>

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@gorryfair commented on this pull request.



> -However, prior to learning the value of the transport parameter, endpoints risk
-datagrams being lost if they send packets larger than 1200 bytes.
+({{transport-parameter-definitions}}) might act as an additional limit on the
+maximum packet size. A sender can avoid exceeding this limit, once the value is
+known.  However, prior to learning the value of the transport parameter,
+endpoints risk datagrams being lost if they send packets larger than the
+smallest allowed maximum packet size of 1200 bytes.
+
+A client MUST expand the payload of all UDP datagrams carrying Initial packets
+to at least the smallest allowed maximum packet size (1200 bytes) by adding
+PADDING frames to the Initial packet or by coalescing the Initial packet; see
+{{packet-coalesce}}.  Sending a UDP datagram of this size ensures that the
+network path from the client to the server supports a reasonable Path Maximum
+Transmission Unit (PMTU).  This also helps reduce the amplitude of amplification
+attacks caused by server responses toward an unverified client address; see
+{{address-validation}}.
 
 Datagrams containing Initial packets MAY exceed 1200 bytes if the client

Needs to be 1200B of payload? (We need to be careful about which layer these numbers are describing, since the datagram itself will be larger.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3702#discussion_r435907622">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; -However, prior to learning the value of the transport parameter, endpoints risk
-datagrams being lost if they send packets larger than 1200 bytes.
+({{transport-parameter-definitions}}) might act as an additional limit on the
+maximum packet size. A sender can avoid exceeding this limit, once the value is
+known.  However, prior to learning the value of the transport parameter,
+endpoints risk datagrams being lost if they send packets larger than the
+smallest allowed maximum packet size of 1200 bytes.
+
+A client MUST expand the payload of all UDP datagrams carrying Initial packets
+to at least the smallest allowed maximum packet size (1200 bytes) by adding
+PADDING frames to the Initial packet or by coalescing the Initial packet; see
+{{packet-coalesce}}.  Sending a UDP datagram of this size ensures that the
+network path from the client to the server supports a reasonable Path Maximum
+Transmission Unit (PMTU).  This also helps reduce the amplitude of amplification
+attacks caused by server responses toward an unverified client address; see
+{{address-validation}}.
 
 Datagrams containing Initial packets MAY exceed 1200 bytes if the client
</pre>
<p>Needs to be 1200B of payload? (We need to be careful about which layer these numbers are describing, since the datagram itself will be larger.</p>

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You are supposed to keep three counters for the number of each ECT(0) and ECT(1) and CE mark reported so far on this connection (for this ack space). Increase means the difference of the count reported in the latest ACK compared to the current local counter value. Total increase is increase of ECT(0)+increase of ECT(1)+increase if CE compared to local current count of ECT(0)+ECT(1)+CE. Does that help?

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@gorryfair commented on this pull request.



> @@ -3485,10 +3485,13 @@ packets on a new path to a peer:
 * If all packets that were sent with the ECT(0) codepoint are eventually deemed
   lost {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, validation is deemed to have failed.
 
-To reduce the chances of misinterpreting congestive loss as packets dropped by a
-faulty network element, an endpoint could set the ECT(0) codepoint in the first
-ten outgoing packets on a path, or for a period of three RTTs, whichever occurs
-first.
+During the initial deployment of ECN an implementation bug was observed that
+led to black-holing of ECN-marked packet (mostly in home router equipment).
+While this case is unlikely in the Internet today, if this is as a concern for
+a certain network, an endpoint could set the ECT(0) codepoint only in, e.g., the
+first ten outgoing packets on a path, or for a period of, e.g., three RTTs,
+whichever occurs first, to reduce the chances of misinterpreting congestive
+loss as packets dropped by a faulty network element.
 
 Implementations MAY experiment with and use other strategies for use of ECN.
 Other methods of probing paths for ECN support are possible, as are different

See issue #3734. On this sentence and some other ECN-related topics that could also be addressed in this PR?

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<p><b>@gorryfair</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3454#discussion_r435909457">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -3485,10 +3485,13 @@ packets on a new path to a peer:
 * If all packets that were sent with the ECT(0) codepoint are eventually deemed
   lost {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, validation is deemed to have failed.
 
-To reduce the chances of misinterpreting congestive loss as packets dropped by a
-faulty network element, an endpoint could set the ECT(0) codepoint in the first
-ten outgoing packets on a path, or for a period of three RTTs, whichever occurs
-first.
+During the initial deployment of ECN an implementation bug was observed that
+led to black-holing of ECN-marked packet (mostly in home router equipment).
+While this case is unlikely in the Internet today, if this is as a concern for
+a certain network, an endpoint could set the ECT(0) codepoint only in, e.g., the
+first ten outgoing packets on a path, or for a period of, e.g., three RTTs,
+whichever occurs first, to reduce the chances of misinterpreting congestive
+loss as packets dropped by a faulty network element.
 
 Implementations MAY experiment with and use other strategies for use of ECN.
 Other methods of probing paths for ECN support are possible, as are different
</pre>
<p>See issue <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="631563444" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3734" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3734/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3734">#3734</a>. On this sentence and some other ECN-related topics that could also be addressed in this PR?</p>

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It does, thanks. it would probably be useful to introduce those local reference counts before the bullet list, describe how that are maintained, and then use them when describing how to validate.

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<p>It does, thanks. it would probably be useful to introduce those local reference counts before the bullet list, describe how that are maintained, and then use them when describing how to validate.</p>

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Yes. Will try to propose a PR. Thanks for implementing!

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Actually, this doesn't make sense to me:
> Total increase is increase of ECT(0)+increase of ECT(1)+increase if CE compared to local current count of ECT(0)+ECT(1)+CE. 

The increase is the value in the current ACK frame minus the current local reference value. A sum of those increases is always going to be less than the sum of the total reference values?

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<p>Actually, this doesn't make sense to me:</p>
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<p>Total increase is increase of ECT(0)+increase of ECT(1)+increase if CE compared to local current count of ECT(0)+ECT(1)+CE.</p>
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<p>The increase is the value in the current ACK frame minus the current local reference value. A sum of those increases is always going to be less than the sum of the total reference values?</p>

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Yes, sorry, in the text you don't compare the total increase to the local value of course. You compare the total increase to the number of packets  acknowledged in an ACK frame

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<p>Yes, sorry, in the text you don't compare the total increase to the local value of course. You compare the total increase to the number of packets  acknowledged in an ACK frame</p>

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and then you also compare the increase of ECT(0)+increase in CE to number of packet send with ECT(0) from the newly acknowledge packets, and same for ETC(1). So you need to remember with packet was sent with which ECN codepoint if not all packets are send with the same codepoint.

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<p>and then you also compare the increase of ECT(0)+increase in CE to number of packet send with ECT(0) from the newly acknowledge packets, and same for ETC(1). So you need to remember with packet was sent with which ECN codepoint if not all packets are send with the same codepoint.</p>

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@nibanks approved this pull request.

Looks good, but I think the paragraph on lines 1574 to 1582 might be best split too, into sub-paragraphs for each TP and how it's used.



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<p><b>@nibanks</b> approved this pull request.</p>

<p>Looks good, but I think the paragraph on lines 1574 to 1582 might be best split too, into sub-paragraphs for each TP and how it's used.</p>

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I guess that something to discuss in the applicability draft as well

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https://github.com/cabo/kramdown-rfc2629/issues/57 tracks a feature request to support cross-document references with similar syntax, but it's challenging.

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Because the Final Size is used to synchronize flow control consumption.  If the Final Size is not, in fact, the last data ever sent on a stream, the two sides will disagree about how much flow control credit has been consumed.

The reaction of the receiver isn't to ignore; in the very next paragraph:

> A receiver SHOULD treat receipt of data at or beyond the final size as a FINAL_SIZE_ERROR error, even after a stream is closed. Generating these errors is not mandatory, but only because requiring that an endpoint generate these errors also means that the endpoint needs to maintain the final size state for closed streams, which could mean a significant state commitment.

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<p>Because the Final Size is used to synchronize flow control consumption.  If the Final Size is not, in fact, the last data ever sent on a stream, the two sides will disagree about how much flow control credit has been consumed.</p>
<p>The reaction of the receiver isn't to ignore; in the very next paragraph:</p>
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<p>A receiver SHOULD treat receipt of data at or beyond the final size as a FINAL_SIZE_ERROR error, even after a stream is closed. Generating these errors is not mandatory, but only because requiring that an endpoint generate these errors also means that the endpoint needs to maintain the final size state for closed streams, which could mean a significant state commitment.</p>
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Aha, I knew there must be a reason - could we add something like this sentence? "This is used to synchronize flow control consumption between the endpoints."


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  Branch: refs/heads/transport/why_final_size
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Fixes #3721.
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  * Why do we have final size?

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<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3721.">Fixes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="630733817" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3721" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3721/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3721">#3721</a>.</p>

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I'm supportive of that direction.  There was, at one point, an attempt to document the properties that would have to be provided by a generic handshake protocol.  The decision to make the transport-spec version-specific and make versions handshake-protocol-specific means we don't *need* that text, but an equivalent section noting specifically what features are delegated to and expected of TLS would still be useful.

However, I will say that I don't think this rearrangement needs to or should delay the drafts or WGLC.

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<p>I'm supportive of that direction.  There was, at one point, an attempt to document the properties that would have to be provided by a generic handshake protocol.  The decision to make the transport-spec version-specific and make versions handshake-protocol-specific means we don't <em>need</em> that text, but an equivalent section noting specifically what features are delegated to and expected of TLS would still be useful.</p>
<p>However, I will say that I don't think this rearrangement needs to or should delay the drafts or WGLC.</p>

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Several instances I see in the draft refer to the situation where an endpoint is required to send a packet containing certain frames.  The endpoint might opportunistically add other frames, not mandated to be sent, as long as it's doing the work of generating and sending a packet anyway.  These opportunistically added frames are "bundled" with the mandatory frames.

More generally, the term refers to selecting a collection of frames waiting to be sent when generating an outgoing packet.

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<p>Several instances I see in the draft refer to the situation where an endpoint is required to send a packet containing certain frames.  The endpoint might opportunistically add other frames, not mandated to be sent, as long as it's doing the work of generating and sending a packet anyway.  These opportunistically added frames are "bundled" with the mandatory frames.</p>
<p>More generally, the term refers to selecting a collection of frames waiting to be sent when generating an outgoing packet.</p>

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(Versus coalescing, which is putting more than one packet in a single UDP datagram.)

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<p>(Versus coalescing, which is putting more than one packet in a single UDP datagram.)</p>

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Looks like #2324 made this text more generic, leaving the specifics of how to keep a connection alive (e.g. with PING frames) to the transport implementation.  The text in question is now in Section 5.1:

> HTTP clients are expected to request that the transport keep connections open while there are responses outstanding for requests or server pushes, as described in Section 19.2 of [QUIC-TRANSPORT]. If the client is not expecting a response from the server, allowing an idle connection to time out is preferred over expending effort maintaining a connection that might not be needed. A gateway MAY maintain connections in anticipation of need rather than incur the latency cost of connection establishment to servers. Servers SHOULD NOT actively keep connections open.

It's possible the transport draft needs a similar generalization, to recommend implementations expose a way for the application layer to control whether an connection is idle.

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<p>Looks like <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="397492896" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2324" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2324/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2324">#2324</a> made this text more generic, leaving the specifics of how to keep a connection alive (e.g. with PING frames) to the transport implementation.  The text in question is now in Section 5.1:</p>
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<p>HTTP clients are expected to request that the transport keep connections open while there are responses outstanding for requests or server pushes, as described in Section 19.2 of [QUIC-TRANSPORT]. If the client is not expecting a response from the server, allowing an idle connection to time out is preferred over expending effort maintaining a connection that might not be needed. A gateway MAY maintain connections in anticipation of need rather than incur the latency cost of connection establishment to servers. Servers SHOULD NOT actively keep connections open.</p>
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> @@ -908,10 +908,11 @@ final size is the number of bytes sent.  More generally, this is one higher
 than the offset of the byte with the largest offset sent on the stream, or zero
 if no bytes were sent.
 
-For a stream that is reset, the final size is carried explicitly in a
-RESET_STREAM frame.  Otherwise, the final size is the offset plus the length of
-a STREAM frame marked with a FIN flag, or 0 in the case of incoming
-unidirectional streams.
+At the end of a stream, the sender communicates the final size to the recipient,
+ensuring flow control state is synchronized.  For a stream that is reset, the
+final size is carried explicitly in a RESET_STREAM frame.  Otherwise, the final
+size is the offset plus the length of a STREAM frame marked with a FIN flag, or
+0 in the case of incoming unidirectional streams.

To me it seems that the text starting from "or, ..." is confusing. That is because a "sender" does not communicate the final size of incoming undirectional stream, contrary to what the first sentence of this paragraph suggests.

I think it might make sense to either simply drop "or... ", or modify the first sentence to state that such communication is made for streams that has the send side.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3739#discussion_r436222734">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -908,10 +908,11 @@ final size is the number of bytes sent.  More generally, this is one higher
 than the offset of the byte with the largest offset sent on the stream, or zero
 if no bytes were sent.
 
-For a stream that is reset, the final size is carried explicitly in a
-RESET_STREAM frame.  Otherwise, the final size is the offset plus the length of
-a STREAM frame marked with a FIN flag, or 0 in the case of incoming
-unidirectional streams.
+At the end of a stream, the sender communicates the final size to the recipient,
+ensuring flow control state is synchronized.  For a stream that is reset, the
+final size is carried explicitly in a RESET_STREAM frame.  Otherwise, the final
+size is the offset plus the length of a STREAM frame marked with a FIN flag, or
+0 in the case of incoming unidirectional streams.
</pre>
<p>To me it seems that the text starting from "or, ..." is confusing. That is because a "sender" does not communicate the final size of incoming undirectional stream, contrary to what the first sentence of this paragraph suggests.</p>
<p>I think it might make sense to either simply drop "or... ", or modify the first sentence to state that such communication is made for streams that has the send side.</p>

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  Minor editorializing of CID authentication


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> @@ -908,10 +908,11 @@ final size is the number of bytes sent.  More generally, this is one higher
 than the offset of the byte with the largest offset sent on the stream, or zero
 if no bytes were sent.
 
-For a stream that is reset, the final size is carried explicitly in a
-RESET_STREAM frame.  Otherwise, the final size is the offset plus the length of
-a STREAM frame marked with a FIN flag, or 0 in the case of incoming
-unidirectional streams.
+At the end of a stream, the sender communicates the final size to the recipient,
+ensuring flow control state is synchronized.  For a stream that is reset, the
+final size is carried explicitly in a RESET_STREAM frame.  Otherwise, the final
+size is the offset plus the length of a STREAM frame marked with a FIN flag, or
+0 in the case of incoming unidirectional streams.

I think that Kazuho is right regarding unidirectional streams (implying that a nothingness has size is silly), but I would go further.

There are three cases we care about: STREAM w/ data and FIN in which case the final size is offset+length.  We include an offset even when there is no data so that the final size is communicated in that frame.  Then there is RESET_STREAM, which carries the final size.  That way, no matter how the stream transitions to closed, the size is known.  So I would say that:

> The final size of a stream is always signaled to recipient.  Final size is signaled as the sum of the Offset and Length fields of a STREAM frame, noting that the length might be implicit.  Alternatively, the Final Size field of a RESET_STREAM frame carries this value.  This ensures that all ways that a stream can be closed result in the number of bytes on the stream are reliably transmitted. This guarantees that both endpoints agree on how much flow control credit was consumed by the stream.

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<p><b>@martinthomson</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3739#discussion_r436254880">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -908,10 +908,11 @@ final size is the number of bytes sent.  More generally, this is one higher
 than the offset of the byte with the largest offset sent on the stream, or zero
 if no bytes were sent.
 
-For a stream that is reset, the final size is carried explicitly in a
-RESET_STREAM frame.  Otherwise, the final size is the offset plus the length of
-a STREAM frame marked with a FIN flag, or 0 in the case of incoming
-unidirectional streams.
+At the end of a stream, the sender communicates the final size to the recipient,
+ensuring flow control state is synchronized.  For a stream that is reset, the
+final size is carried explicitly in a RESET_STREAM frame.  Otherwise, the final
+size is the offset plus the length of a STREAM frame marked with a FIN flag, or
+0 in the case of incoming unidirectional streams.
</pre>
<p>I think that Kazuho is right regarding unidirectional streams (implying that a nothingness has size is silly), but I would go further.</p>
<p>There are three cases we care about: STREAM w/ data and FIN in which case the final size is offset+length.  We include an offset even when there is no data so that the final size is communicated in that frame.  Then there is RESET_STREAM, which carries the final size.  That way, no matter how the stream transitions to closed, the size is known.  So I would say that:</p>
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<p>The final size of a stream is always signaled to recipient.  Final size is signaled as the sum of the Offset and Length fields of a STREAM frame, noting that the length might be implicit.  Alternatively, the Final Size field of a RESET_STREAM frame carries this value.  This ensures that all ways that a stream can be closed result in the number of bytes on the stream are reliably transmitted. This guarantees that both endpoints agree on how much flow control credit was consumed by the stream.</p>
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Actually there is a section on "Session resumption versus Keep-alive" in the applicability draft already. Do we need to say more? Is that needed in the transport draft as well?

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<p>Actually there is a section on "Session resumption versus Keep-alive" in the applicability draft already. Do we need to say more? Is that needed in the transport draft as well?</p>

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So let me tell you what my code is doing now to verify incoming ACK-ECNs, and then you tell me if this is correct:

I maintain ECN reference counter vectors (`ecn-ref`) per pn space. These hold the last counts received in an ACK-ECN from the peer.

I could new ACKs for ECN-marked packets that I send in a `new_ack`vector. (I only send ECN_ECT0 packets though, so this isn't really a vector, just a variable.)

When I receive a new ACK-ECN with ECN counts (`ecn_cnt`), I compute the `ecn_inc` vector as `ecn_ref - ecn_cnt`.

I then do the verification per Section 13.4.2.2:

* (First bullet in 13.4.2.2 is easy, omitted here)

* Second bullet in 13.4.2.2: `ecn_inc[ECN_ECT0] + ecn_inc[ECN_ECT1] + ecn_inc[ECN_CE] <  new_ack[ECN_ECT0]` => verification failed

* Third bullet in 13.4.2.2: `ecn_inc[ECN_ECT0] + ecn_cnt[ECN_CE] < new_ack[ECN_ECT0]` => verification failed. (Since I only send ECN_ECT0, I can omit looking at ECN_ACT1, I believe.)

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<p>So let me tell you what my code is doing now to verify incoming ACK-ECNs, and then you tell me if this is correct:</p>
<p>I maintain ECN reference counter vectors (<code>ecn-ref</code>) per pn space. These hold the last counts received in an ACK-ECN from the peer.</p>
<p>I could new ACKs for ECN-marked packets that I send in a <code>new_ack</code>vector. (I only send ECN_ECT0 packets though, so this isn't really a vector, just a variable.)</p>
<p>When I receive a new ACK-ECN with ECN counts (<code>ecn_cnt</code>), I compute the <code>ecn_inc</code> vector as <code>ecn_ref - ecn_cnt</code>.</p>
<p>I then do the verification per Section 13.4.2.2:</p>
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<p>(First bullet in 13.4.2.2 is easy, omitted here)</p>
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<p>Second bullet in 13.4.2.2: <code>ecn_inc[ECN_ECT0] + ecn_inc[ECN_ECT1] + ecn_inc[ECN_CE] &lt;  new_ack[ECN_ECT0]</code> =&gt; verification failed</p>
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<p>Third bullet in 13.4.2.2: <code>ecn_inc[ECN_ECT0] + ecn_cnt[ECN_CE] &lt; new_ack[ECN_ECT0]</code> =&gt; verification failed. (Since I only send ECN_ECT0, I can omit looking at ECN_ACT1, I believe.)</p>
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  Branch: refs/heads/transport/why_final_size
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> @@ -908,10 +908,11 @@ final size is the number of bytes sent.  More generally, this is one higher
 than the offset of the byte with the largest offset sent on the stream, or zero
 if no bytes were sent.
 
-For a stream that is reset, the final size is carried explicitly in a
-RESET_STREAM frame.  Otherwise, the final size is the offset plus the length of
-a STREAM frame marked with a FIN flag, or 0 in the case of incoming
-unidirectional streams.
+At the end of a stream, the sender communicates the final size to the recipient,
+ensuring flow control state is synchronized.  For a stream that is reset, the
+final size is carried explicitly in a RESET_STREAM frame.  Otherwise, the final
+size is the offset plus the length of a STREAM frame marked with a FIN flag, or
+0 in the case of incoming unidirectional streams.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3739#discussion_r436741405">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -908,10 +908,11 @@ final size is the number of bytes sent.  More generally, this is one higher
 than the offset of the byte with the largest offset sent on the stream, or zero
 if no bytes were sent.
 
-For a stream that is reset, the final size is carried explicitly in a
-RESET_STREAM frame.  Otherwise, the final size is the offset plus the length of
-a STREAM frame marked with a FIN flag, or 0 in the case of incoming
-unidirectional streams.
+At the end of a stream, the sender communicates the final size to the recipient,
+ensuring flow control state is synchronized.  For a stream that is reset, the
+final size is carried explicitly in a RESET_STREAM frame.  Otherwise, the final
+size is the offset plus the length of a STREAM frame marked with a FIN flag, or
+0 in the case of incoming unidirectional streams.
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@kazuho commented on this pull request.

:+1: LGTM modulo a nitpick.

> @@ -908,10 +908,13 @@ final size is the number of bytes sent.  More generally, this is one higher
 than the offset of the byte with the largest offset sent on the stream, or zero
 if no bytes were sent.
 
-For a stream that is reset, the final size is carried explicitly in a
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+The final size of a stream is always signaled to the recipient.  The final size
+is the sum of the Offset and Length fields of a STREAM frame with a FIN flag,
+noting that the length might be implicit.  Alternatively, the Final Size field

Maybe "noting that the offset and the length might be implicit"?

This is an editorial nitpick purely from the viewpoint of consistency, but it is a bit surprising to see only one of the two fields called out as might be implicit, even though both of the fields can be omitted.

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> @@ -908,10 +908,13 @@ final size is the number of bytes sent.  More generally, this is one higher
 than the offset of the byte with the largest offset sent on the stream, or zero
 if no bytes were sent.
 
-For a stream that is reset, the final size is carried explicitly in a
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-a STREAM frame marked with a FIN flag, or 0 in the case of incoming
-unidirectional streams.
+The final size of a stream is always signaled to the recipient.  The final size
+is the sum of the Offset and Length fields of a STREAM frame with a FIN flag,
+noting that the length might be implicit.  Alternatively, the Final Size field

True.  That will only be the case when a stream has only one STREAM frame, so it would be _unusual_ for the final STREAM frame to have an implicit Offset, but it's certainly not prohibited.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3739#discussion_r436914997">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -908,10 +908,13 @@ final size is the number of bytes sent.  More generally, this is one higher
 than the offset of the byte with the largest offset sent on the stream, or zero
 if no bytes were sent.
 
-For a stream that is reset, the final size is carried explicitly in a
-RESET_STREAM frame.  Otherwise, the final size is the offset plus the length of
-a STREAM frame marked with a FIN flag, or 0 in the case of incoming
-unidirectional streams.
+The final size of a stream is always signaled to the recipient.  The final size
+is the sum of the Offset and Length fields of a STREAM frame with a FIN flag,
+noting that the length might be implicit.  Alternatively, the Final Size field
</pre>
<p>True.  That will only be the case when a stream has only one STREAM frame, so it would be <em>unusual</em> for the final STREAM frame to have an implicit Offset, but it's certainly not prohibited.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/transport/why_final_size
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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
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  Changed paths:
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  describe error handling of GOAWAY ID increase (#3634)



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Merged #3634 into master.

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Closed #3631 via #3634.

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
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      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e0e9473ff17404dcd63c26f27f9ab6ba62afe840
  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-06-08 (Mon, 08 Jun 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md

  Log Message:
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  Servers should always send CANCEL_PUSH (#3700)

* Servers should always send CANCEL_PUSH

* Fulfilled before cancel

* A suggested text about a push stream after a CANCEL_PUSH

* Apply suggestions from code review

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To clarify, my intention was indeed for this to be editorial and to not have it delay any part of the process whatsoever.

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> +of a RESET_STREAM frame carries this value.  This ensures that all ways that a
+stream can be closed result in the number of bytes on the stream being reliably
+transmitted.  This guarantees that both endpoints agree on how much flow control

```suggestion
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Some suggestions

> +The final size of a stream is always signaled to the recipient.  The final size
+is the sum of the Offset and Length fields of a STREAM frame with a FIN flag,
+noting that these fields might be implicit.  Alternatively, the Final Size field
+of a RESET_STREAM frame carries this value.  This ensures that all ways that a
+stream can be closed result in the number of bytes on the stream being reliably

I don't think this is quite correct, since there's not an implicit fin in the case of a stream where the Fin was never sent and the stream was reset.

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The final size of a stream is always signaled to the recipient.  For streams that
are completed, the final size is the sum of the Offset and Length fields of a
STREAM frame with a FIN flag.  For a stream that is reset, the Final Size field
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@ianswett approved this pull request.

Thanks Jana, LG.

Can you update the PR title and/or description to be a bit more descriptive?



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@evolodina Can you clarify what conditions you're testing, as there are are a lot of variables in flow control.

We send flow control updates much less frequently than anytime there's free credit and a packet is already being sent, and very rarely see flow control blockage, despite doing dynamic window tuning on the server side.  So I'd expect if we did more proactive updates with better bundling, it'd only help.

Bundling flow control updates with ACK frames makes a large amount of sense, because ACK frames free up congestion window space and window updates free up flow control.

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<p>We send flow control updates much less frequently than anytime there's free credit and a packet is already being sent, and very rarely see flow control blockage, despite doing dynamic window tuning on the server side.  So I'd expect if we did more proactive updates with better bundling, it'd only help.</p>
<p>Bundling flow control updates with ACK frames makes a large amount of sense, because ACK frames free up congestion window space and window updates free up flow control.</p>

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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

Thanks for changing SCID/DCID to "Source Connection ID" and "Destination Connection ID", that seems like a good change.

> @@ -235,11 +240,11 @@ A connection ID is an opaque field of arbitrary length.
 
 The primary function of a connection ID is to ensure that changes in addressing
 at lower protocol layers (UDP, IP, and below) don't cause packets for a QUIC
-connection to be delivered to the wrong endpoint.  The connection ID is used by
-endpoints and the intermediaries that support them to ensure that each QUIC
-packet can be delivered to the correct instance of an endpoint.  At the
-endpoint, the connection ID is used to identify which QUIC connection the packet
-is intended for.
+connection to be delivered to the wrong transport endpoint.  The connection ID

What's a transport endpoint?  I don't recall us using that term elsewhere, so endpoint seems sufficient to me.  Or maybe we need another term for this case?

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<p><b>@ianswett</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<p>Thanks for changing SCID/DCID to "Source Connection ID" and "Destination Connection ID", that seems like a good change.</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3730#discussion_r437074788">draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -235,11 +240,11 @@ A connection ID is an opaque field of arbitrary length.
 
 The primary function of a connection ID is to ensure that changes in addressing
 at lower protocol layers (UDP, IP, and below) don&#39;t cause packets for a QUIC
-connection to be delivered to the wrong endpoint.  The connection ID is used by
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<p>What's a transport endpoint?  I don't recall us using that term elsewhere, so endpoint seems sufficient to me.  Or maybe we need another term for this case?</p>

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> @@ -235,11 +240,11 @@ A connection ID is an opaque field of arbitrary length.
 
 The primary function of a connection ID is to ensure that changes in addressing
 at lower protocol layers (UDP, IP, and below) don't cause packets for a QUIC
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+connection to be delivered to the wrong transport endpoint.  The connection ID

This was really trying to avoid having to pull in the definition of "endpoint" from the transport doc.  I see that I failed there.  Happy to take suggestions, like:

```suggestion
connection to be delivered to the wrong destination.  The connection ID
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  Branch: refs/heads/unbundle
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
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      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c9a52af640557511b4565bdb1546b58721a1cb27
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-06-09 (Tue, 09 Jun 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Remove "bundle" terminology

We didn't really need to use a new "term" for the concept of including
multiple frames in a packet.  The use of "bundle" implied more than what
was really happening.  Using plain words is probably better.

Closes #3736.



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We didn&#39;t really need to use a new &quot;term&quot; for the concept of including
multiple frames in a packet.  The use of &quot;bundle&quot; implied more than what
was really happening.  Using plain words is probably better.

Closes #3736.
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  * Remove &quot;bundle&quot; terminology

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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (10)

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<p>We didn't really need to use a new "term" for the concept of including<br>
multiple frames in a packet.  The use of "bundle" implied more than what<br>
was really happening.  Using plain words is probably better.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3736.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="631565335" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3736" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3736/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3736">#3736</a>.</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>Remove &quot;bundle&quot; terminology</li>
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<h4>File Changes</h4>
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    <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3740/files#diff-db016291106766877c4921a79f8596e0">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>
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> +The final size of a stream is always signaled to the recipient.  The final size
+is the sum of the Offset and Length fields of a STREAM frame with a FIN flag,
+noting that these fields might be implicit.  Alternatively, the Final Size field
+of a RESET_STREAM frame carries this value.  This ensures that all ways that a
+stream can be closed result in the number of bytes on the stream being reliably

The implicit refers to the Length field, which is implicit when omitted.  Some tweaking might be required for that.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3739#discussion_r437095094">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +The final size of a stream is always signaled to the recipient.  The final size
+is the sum of the Offset and Length fields of a STREAM frame with a FIN flag,
+noting that these fields might be implicit.  Alternatively, the Final Size field
+of a RESET_STREAM frame carries this value.  This ensures that all ways that a
+stream can be closed result in the number of bytes on the stream being reliably
</pre>
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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
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      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7b0ad776a5d04ea9acca5dd783011929857cb74a
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-06-01 (Mon, 01 Jun 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Minor editorial fix


  Commit: 1bc34aa8776c1817a60c51073af24d48e4ed8b10
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1bc34aa8776c1817a60c51073af24d48e4ed8b10
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  Changed paths:
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  fix references


  Commit: f238f3c17ec6e1c43a5d140f825f449948affd31
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  Section Section


  Commit: 44491faaa88d2bf4e578a9764e46e266e5ae63b9
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  Merge pull request #3710 from quicwg/jri/sec3.1

Promote section 3.1 to its own section


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> @@ -1824,10 +1824,10 @@ could occur when the server reaches its anti-amplification limit and the client
 has received acknowledgements for all the data it has sent.  In this case, when
 the client has no reason to send additional packets, the server will be unable
 to send more data because it has not validated the client's address. To prevent
-this deadlock, clients MUST send a packet on a probe timeout
-(PTO, see Section 5.3 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}). Specifically, the client MUST send
-an Initial packet in a UDP datagram of at least 1200 bytes if it does not have
-Handshake keys, and otherwise send a Handshake packet.
+this deadlock, clients MUST send a packet on a probe timeout (PTO, see Section
+6.2 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}). Specifically, the client MUST send an Initial packet

Nice extra fix here.

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<p><b>@martinthomson</b> approved this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3710#discussion_r437095411">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1824,10 +1824,10 @@ could occur when the server reaches its anti-amplification limit and the client
 has received acknowledgements for all the data it has sent.  In this case, when
 the client has no reason to send additional packets, the server will be unable
 to send more data because it has not validated the client&#39;s address. To prevent
-this deadlock, clients MUST send a packet on a probe timeout
-(PTO, see Section 5.3 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}). Specifically, the client MUST send
-an Initial packet in a UDP datagram of at least 1200 bytes if it does not have
-Handshake keys, and otherwise send a Handshake packet.
+this deadlock, clients MUST send a packet on a probe timeout (PTO, see Section
+6.2 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}). Specifically, the client MUST send an Initial packet
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Closed #3707 via #3710.

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I think that this can be this simple.

Closes #3729.
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  * Move recommendation from the note into mainline

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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (9)

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<p>I think that this can be this simple.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3729.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="631356935" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3729" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3729/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3729">#3729</a>.</p>

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> +The final size of a stream is always signaled to the recipient.  The final size
+is the sum of the Offset and Length fields of a STREAM frame with a FIN flag,
+noting that these fields might be implicit.  Alternatively, the Final Size field
+of a RESET_STREAM frame carries this value.  This ensures that all ways that a
+stream can be closed result in the number of bytes on the stream being reliably

No need to refer to the wire encoding of offset and length, right?
My suggestion: "... is the sum of the offset and the length of a STREAM frame with a FIN flag"

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3739#discussion_r437127074">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +The final size of a stream is always signaled to the recipient.  The final size
+is the sum of the Offset and Length fields of a STREAM frame with a FIN flag,
+noting that these fields might be implicit.  Alternatively, the Final Size field
+of a RESET_STREAM frame carries this value.  This ensures that all ways that a
+stream can be closed result in the number of bytes on the stream being reliably
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<p>No need to refer to the wire encoding of offset and length, right?<br>
My suggestion: "... is the sum of the offset and the length of a STREAM frame with a FIN flag"</p>

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@marten-seemann commented on this pull request.

tbh, I think the text reads a lot better with bundling.

> @@ -3354,8 +3354,8 @@ One of the benefits of QUIC is avoidance of head-of-line blocking across
 multiple streams.  When a packet loss occurs, only streams with data in that
 packet are blocked waiting for a retransmission to be received, while other
 streams can continue making progress.  Note that when data from multiple streams
-is bundled into a single QUIC packet, loss of that packet blocks all those
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+are included in a single QUIC packet, loss of that packet blocks all those

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<p>tbh, I think the text reads a lot better with bundling.</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3740#discussion_r437127758">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -3354,8 +3354,8 @@ One of the benefits of QUIC is avoidance of head-of-line blocking across
 multiple streams.  When a packet loss occurs, only streams with data in that
 packet are blocked waiting for a retransmission to be received, while other
 streams can continue making progress.  Note that when data from multiple streams
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  Branch: refs/heads/unbundle
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
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  Changed paths:
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These are mostly mechanical, but there are a few that likely need some review.

Closes #3720.
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<p>These are mostly mechanical, but there are a few that likely need some review.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3720.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="630732818" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3720" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3720/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3720">#3720</a>.</p>

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MAX_PLPMTU is *slightly* different as it refers to the IP layer, but you are right that it constrains the same underlying variable.

I'll add a cross-reference though.

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<p>MAX_PLPMTU is <em>slightly</em> different as it refers to the IP layer, but you are right that it constrains the same underlying variable.</p>
<p>I'll add a cross-reference though.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/pmtud-max_udp_payload_size
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  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Cross reference packet size section

I did not add a citation for MAX_PLPMTU as that is subtly different and
that seems like it would be more of a liability than a help in this
case.

Closes #3738.



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  Branch: refs/heads/pmtud-max_udp_payload_size
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  Log Message:
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  Cross reference packet size section

I did not add a citation for MAX_PLPMTU as that is subtly different and
that seems like it would be more of a liability than a help in this
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Closes #3738.



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I did not add a citation for MAX_PLPMTU as that is subtly different and
that seems like it would be more of a liability than a help in this
case.

Closes #3738.
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  * Cross reference packet size section

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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (6)

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<p>I did not add a citation for MAX_PLPMTU as that is subtly different and<br>
that seems like it would be more of a liability than a help in this<br>
case.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3738.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="631571558" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3738" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3738/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3738">#3738</a>.</p>

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The problem with the table is that it is already essentially the full width available to us.  That makes the addition of more information quite difficult.

The rules for most of these are simple enough that I'm not sure that the table is the best way to present it.  That is:

ack-eliciting: all except ACK, PADDING
congestion-controlled: all except ACK
flow controlled: only STREAM

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<p>The problem with the table is that it is already essentially the full width available to us.  That makes the addition of more information quite difficult.</p>
<p>The rules for most of these are simple enough that I'm not sure that the table is the best way to present it.  That is:</p>
<p>ack-eliciting: all except ACK, PADDING<br>
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This moves it up under the idle timeout section.  As discussed on the
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This moves it up under the idle timeout section.  As discussed on the
issue, the HTTP draft is basically good.

Closes #3723.
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  * Make keep-alive advice more generic

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    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (12)
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (54)

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<p>This moves it up under the idle timeout section.  As discussed on the<br>
issue, the HTTP draft is basically good.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3723.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="630903000" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3723" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3723/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3723">#3723</a>.</p>

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> -However, prior to learning the value of the transport parameter, endpoints risk
-datagrams being lost if they send packets larger than 1200 bytes.
+({{transport-parameter-definitions}}) might act as an additional limit on the
+maximum packet size. A sender can avoid exceeding this limit, once the value is
+known.  However, prior to learning the value of the transport parameter,
+endpoints risk datagrams being lost if they send packets larger than the
+smallest allowed maximum packet size of 1200 bytes.
+
+A client MUST expand the payload of all UDP datagrams carrying Initial packets
+to at least the smallest allowed maximum packet size (1200 bytes) by adding
+PADDING frames to the Initial packet or by coalescing the Initial packet; see
+{{packet-coalesce}}.  Sending a UDP datagram of this size ensures that the
+network path from the client to the server supports a reasonable Path Maximum
+Transmission Unit (PMTU).  This also helps reduce the amplitude of amplification
+attacks caused by server responses toward an unverified client address; see
+{{address-validation}}.
 
 Datagrams containing Initial packets MAY exceed 1200 bytes if the client

I think we caught this in #3742.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3702#discussion_r437184003">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; -However, prior to learning the value of the transport parameter, endpoints risk
-datagrams being lost if they send packets larger than 1200 bytes.
+({{transport-parameter-definitions}}) might act as an additional limit on the
+maximum packet size. A sender can avoid exceeding this limit, once the value is
+known.  However, prior to learning the value of the transport parameter,
+endpoints risk datagrams being lost if they send packets larger than the
+smallest allowed maximum packet size of 1200 bytes.
+
+A client MUST expand the payload of all UDP datagrams carrying Initial packets
+to at least the smallest allowed maximum packet size (1200 bytes) by adding
+PADDING frames to the Initial packet or by coalescing the Initial packet; see
+{{packet-coalesce}}.  Sending a UDP datagram of this size ensures that the
+network path from the client to the server supports a reasonable Path Maximum
+Transmission Unit (PMTU).  This also helps reduce the amplitude of amplification
+attacks caused by server responses toward an unverified client address; see
+{{address-validation}}.
 
 Datagrams containing Initial packets MAY exceed 1200 bytes if the client
</pre>
<p>I think we caught this in <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="635139047" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3742" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3742/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3742">#3742</a>.</p>

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This was mixed in with other packet size text.  A clean split is
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(Note that this might rot with all the other changes that are in flight.  This is a straight move, so it can be rebased easy on that basis.)
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  * A section devoted to Initial packet size

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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (21)

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<p>This was mixed in with other packet size text.  A clean split is<br>
possible.</p>
<p>(Note that this might rot with all the other changes that are in flight.  This is a straight move, so it can be rebased easy on that basis.)</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>A section devoted to Initial packet size</li>
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Regarding the sizing of Initial packets, see #3746.

I checked the text for probing and we have "PMTUD probe" in one case and "probing packet" elsewhere.  It's not ideal, but I didn't see any cases that were clearly busted.  I don't have a good idea for alternative labels, but would welcome suggestions.

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<p>Regarding the sizing of Initial packets, see <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="635173540" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3746" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3746/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3746">#3746</a>.</p>
<p>I checked the text for probing and we have "PMTUD probe" in one case and "probing packet" elsewhere.  It's not ideal, but I didn't see any cases that were clearly busted.  I don't have a good idea for alternative labels, but would welcome suggestions.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
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  Commit: 994f32dd4fe1c160ad8ac1c88180e5b2b059e5a9
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  Date:   2020-05-24 (Sun, 24 May 2020)

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  use TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR when authenticating connection IDs


  Commit: 065e9aa278211b463d125d3afc376e32375bf084
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  use PROTOCOL_VIOLATIONs for the retry_source_connection_id checks


  Commit: e241f42ed92765c3393c406f7aedc560c4609f04
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  Turn the absence clauses into prose


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  Merge pull request #6 from quicwg/3691-prose

Turn the absence clauses into prose


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  Fixups from review


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  Merge pull request #3691 from marten-seemann/transport-parameter-error

use TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR when authenticating connection IDs


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This set of changes seeks to:
* Complete the transfer of DPLPMTUD text from the DPLPMTUD-RFC-to-be to this ID.
* Separate PMTUD from DPLPMTUD where they differ.
* Seek consistent language for packet sizes within these sections.


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That would be good, the change was unintended.

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I like that:-)

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This looks good

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This looks good

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That would be OK. DPLPMTUD only handles PTB messages.

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Typo fixed.

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Fix for /application data/


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Seems correct

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Understood, and corrected.

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Changes to resolve description of probe packets and need to explain the maximum size.


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Integrate latest changes from the source


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  Scope of disable_active_migration


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  Apply suggestions from code review

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  Move probing aside


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  Merge pull request #3670 from quicwg/transport/scope_disable

Scope of disable_active_migration


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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: d95b49f433108dd49e7f8ad492c6d3d8a4a3d744
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d95b49f433108dd49e7f8ad492c6d3d8a4a3d744
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
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  Changed paths:
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  ECN probing needs to imply that you stop

The current text doesn't really suggest that the probes stop.

Closes #3585.


  Commit: c93cddb90d413bdaddb6ea72f910bef3e3959223
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  Merge pull request #3669 from quicwg/only-ecn

ECN probing needs to imply that you stop


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Closed #3585 via #3669.

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Closing based on the outcome of #3585.

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@janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

A few suggestions.

> @@ -665,15 +665,16 @@ STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED ({{frame-stream-data-blocked}}), and RESET_STREAM
 ({{frame-reset-stream}}).
 
 A sender MUST NOT send any of these frames from a terminal state ("Data Recvd"
-or "Reset Recvd").  A sender MUST NOT send STREAM or STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED after
-sending a RESET_STREAM; that is, in the terminal states and in the "Reset Sent"
-state.  A receiver could receive any of these three frames in any state, due to
-the possibility of delayed delivery of packets carrying them.
+or "Reset Recvd").  A sender MUST NOT send a STREAM or STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED frame
+for a stream in the "Reset Sent" state or any terminal state; that is, after

```suggestion
for a stream in the "Reset Sent" state or any terminal state, that is, after
```

> @@ -1186,8 +1189,8 @@ that packet.
 If a server receives a packet that has an unsupported version, but the packet is

```suggestion
If a server receives a packet that indicates an unsupported version but is large
```

> @@ -1186,8 +1189,8 @@ that packet.
 If a server receives a packet that has an unsupported version, but the packet is
 sufficiently large to initiate a new connection for any version supported by the

```suggestion
enough to initiate a new connection for any one supported version,
```

> @@ -1186,8 +1189,8 @@ that packet.
 If a server receives a packet that has an unsupported version, but the packet is
 sufficiently large to initiate a new connection for any version supported by the
 server, it SHOULD send a Version Negotiation packet as described in

```suggestion
the server SHOULD send a Version Negotiation packet as described in
```

> +consist of as few as 4 UDP datagrams, or any number more up to the limits
+inherent to the protocol, such as congestion control or anti-amplification.  For

```suggestion
consist of as few as 4 UDP datagrams, or any number more (subject to limits
inherent to the protocol, such as congestion control or anti-amplification).  For
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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: b432f15f6dbd7a1bf6eb9dfe809db7d977d5495b
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b432f15f6dbd7a1bf6eb9dfe809db7d977d5495b
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-06-09 (Tue, 09 Jun 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Cross reference packet size section

I did not add a citation for MAX_PLPMTU as that is subtly different and
that seems like it would be more of a liability than a help in this
case.

Closes #3738.


  Commit: 27b526ac7acd3cb7ea6e5500f8df60fc0a4b2ea4
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/27b526ac7acd3cb7ea6e5500f8df60fc0a4b2ea4
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-06-09 (Tue, 09 Jun 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #3743 from quicwg/pmtud-max_udp_payload_size

Cross reference packet size section


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/798313f82e22...27b526ac7acd


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  Changed paths:
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  Remove "bundle" terminology

We didn't really need to use a new "term" for the concept of including
multiple frames in a packet.  The use of "bundle" implied more than what
was really happening.  Using plain words is probably better.

Closes #3736.


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  sdgfoihui


  Commit: 9693a0fd6ef04441a5410dd8512d352f6fe95663
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  Merge pull request #3740 from quicwg/unbundle

Remove "bundle" terminology


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> @@ -235,11 +240,11 @@ A connection ID is an opaque field of arbitrary length.
 
 The primary function of a connection ID is to ensure that changes in addressing
 at lower protocol layers (UDP, IP, and below) don't cause packets for a QUIC
-connection to be delivered to the wrong endpoint.  The connection ID is used by
-endpoints and the intermediaries that support them to ensure that each QUIC
-packet can be delivered to the correct instance of an endpoint.  At the
-endpoint, the connection ID is used to identify which QUIC connection the packet
-is intended for.
+connection to be delivered to the wrong transport endpoint.  The connection ID

"destination" sounds like it could be network-layer?

The document uses "QUIC endpoint" elsewhere to refer to an endpoint at the transport layer, so that may perhaps be the term we are looking for?

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3730#discussion_r437214624">draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -235,11 +240,11 @@ A connection ID is an opaque field of arbitrary length.
 
 The primary function of a connection ID is to ensure that changes in addressing
 at lower protocol layers (UDP, IP, and below) don&#39;t cause packets for a QUIC
-connection to be delivered to the wrong endpoint.  The connection ID is used by
-endpoints and the intermediaries that support them to ensure that each QUIC
-packet can be delivered to the correct instance of an endpoint.  At the
-endpoint, the connection ID is used to identify which QUIC connection the packet
-is intended for.
+connection to be delivered to the wrong transport endpoint.  The connection ID
</pre>
<p>"destination" sounds like it could be network-layer?</p>
<p>The document uses "QUIC endpoint" elsewhere to refer to an endpoint at the transport layer, so that may perhaps be the term we are looking for?</p>

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Taking Gorry&#39;s suggestions, which seem quite reasonable.

Closes #3734.
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  * ECN validation nits

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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (15)

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<p>Taking Gorry's suggestions, which seem quite reasonable.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3734.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="631563444" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3734" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3734/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3734">#3734</a>.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/gorrys-invariant-nits
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-06-09 (Tue, 09 Jun 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Going with QUIC endpoint



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782d99d1c129fe85ff475ca9bfcf36eb5e0c4583  Further editorial refinement


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I wouldn't want to mess-up the table format to include the info. However, it would be really nice to have the info in a compact way close to the table somehow so that readers quickly confirm this. Would a note below the table possibly work, saying just this?

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> +The final size of a stream is always signaled to the recipient.  The final size
+is the sum of the Offset and Length fields of a STREAM frame with a FIN flag,
+noting that these fields might be implicit.  Alternatively, the Final Size field
+of a RESET_STREAM frame carries this value.  This ensures that all ways that a
+stream can be closed result in the number of bytes on the stream being reliably

Both the Offset and Length fields can be implicit.  As discussed above, it would be unusual (at least with HTTP/3 for both to be implicit, but it's certainly allowed.  I think if the fields specifically get mentioned, the aside that they might be implicit needs to remain.  If we switch to pointing to the values, we could drop that, but it might be confusing to some people.

FIN isn't a field, and isn't contemplated by the aside about implicit fields.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3739#discussion_r437416830">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +The final size of a stream is always signaled to the recipient.  The final size
+is the sum of the Offset and Length fields of a STREAM frame with a FIN flag,
+noting that these fields might be implicit.  Alternatively, the Final Size field
+of a RESET_STREAM frame carries this value.  This ensures that all ways that a
+stream can be closed result in the number of bytes on the stream being reliably
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<p>Both the Offset and Length fields can be implicit.  As discussed above, it would be unusual (at least with HTTP/3 for both to be implicit, but it's certainly allowed.  I think if the fields specifically get mentioned, the aside that they might be implicit needs to remain.  If we switch to pointing to the values, we could drop that, but it might be confusing to some people.</p>
<p>FIN isn't a field, and isn't contemplated by the aside about implicit fields.</p>

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@MikeBishop approved this pull request.

On the whole, this is good.  Might be worth having something a little stronger than "might provide"; that would be normative, but the old text already hinted fairly strongly that this was a capability that needed to be exposed to applications.

>  An endpoint might need to send ack-eliciting packets to avoid an idle timeout
 if it is expecting response data, but does not have or is unable to send
 application data.
 
-An endpoint that sends packets close to the effective timeout risks having
-them be discarded at the peer, since the peer might enter its draining state
-before these packets arrive. An endpoint can send a PING or another
-ack-eliciting frame to test the connection for liveness if the peer could
-time out soon, such as within a PTO; see Section 6.2 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.
-This is especially useful if any available application data cannot be safely
-retried. Note that the application determines what data is safe to retry.
+An implementation of QUIC might provide applications with an option to defer an
+idle timeout.  This facility could be used when the application has wishes to

```suggestion
idle timeout.  This facility could be used when the application wishes to
```

>  An endpoint might need to send ack-eliciting packets to avoid an idle timeout
 if it is expecting response data, but does not have or is unable to send
 application data.
 
-An endpoint that sends packets close to the effective timeout risks having
-them be discarded at the peer, since the peer might enter its draining state
-before these packets arrive. An endpoint can send a PING or another
-ack-eliciting frame to test the connection for liveness if the peer could
-time out soon, such as within a PTO; see Section 6.2 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.
-This is especially useful if any available application data cannot be safely
-retried. Note that the application determines what data is safe to retry.
+An implementation of QUIC might provide applications with an option to defer an
+idle timeout.  This facility could be used when the application has wishes to
+avoid the loss of state that is bound to an open connection, but does not expect

I don't have a good suggestion here, but this trips up a first reading by being ambiguous about whether it's the state or the loss which is associated with the connection.  Maybe "application wishes to avoid losing the state associated with an open connection"?  Or "application wishes to avoid the connection timing out, but..."?

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> +idle timeout is appropriate.  Uncoordinated or unnecessary sending of PING
+frames could have a detrimental effect on performance.

I'm finding it a little difficult to understand what coordination means in this paragraph. Previously, the mention of coordination followed some specific advice that has been axed.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3745#discussion_r437461472">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +idle timeout is appropriate.  Uncoordinated or unnecessary sending of PING
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  Merge pull request #3742 from quicwg/gorry-nits-1

First set of Gorry's nits


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Merged #3742 into master.

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> +ECN counts.  A packet detected by a receiver as a duplicate does not affect the
+receiver's local ECN codepoint counts; see {{security-ecn}} for relevant
+security concerns.

```suggestion
ECN counts.  A QUIC packet detected by a receiver as a duplicate does not
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relevant security concerns.
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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: 85a58f11dd1d98d6795a21b847bead780ae917ad
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/85a58f11dd1d98d6795a21b847bead780ae917ad
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-06-09 (Tue, 09 Jun 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  ECN validation nits

Taking Gorry's suggestions here.

Closes #3734.


  Commit: ac51483450b4c8824ebfe534487d129470ce0fce
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ac51483450b4c8824ebfe534487d129470ce0fce
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  QUIC packets

Co-authored-by: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>


  Commit: 0dbef87ae9c2f79334acf630576d9ffb8f59cee2
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  Merge pull request #3747 from quicwg/ecn-nits

ECN validation nits


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/7c8adfa24325...0dbef87ae9c2


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  Why do we have final size?


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Why do we have final size?


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  Expand SCID/DCID


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  Add big endian to notation section


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  not specified -> not encoded for DCID length


  Commit: 52a8b56fb8113b847f42366aa08bf04ac14509f4
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  Make references to concepts clearer


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  Use transport endpoint


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  Date:   2020-06-09 (Tue, 09 Jun 2020)

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  Going with QUIC endpoint


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  Merge pull request #3730 from quicwg/gorrys-invariant-nits

Gorrys invariant nits


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  Resolve merge conflict


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  Merge pull request #3746 from quicwg/split-initial-size

A section devoted to Initial packet size


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Update Initial salt, Retry keys, and samples for -29


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Merged #3711 into master.

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@MikeBishop pushed 73 commits.

de2b8544cc2449c97fc76d00efe0da83c2044e39  Move MUST not send bursts up in the pacing section
23e3109e596baa220b83923443df4ea60f71dde7  Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
290a5113d74c36b112d3ada80edc2f3ede23325b  Split PTO calculation into a dedicated method
d0050a08a17463fbf9f3bf25b61b50a982b4a07f  Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
65b036d2c0437e81e0533a76e863bebfaa3207a3  Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
2630bfdfe743909fb7bd3a92a41bd5f794cc503d  Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
83727ca4f10a4d3866ea026efff3cb833111d1f8  Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
f10875ed05f2edd3fe121631bf89c4a877204fb5  Fix errors
242e38d3b7e6170b59b347de6d8b3686af356c11  Apply suggestions from code review
7a330219f1b116f3bc1ddbcf8cb8fd8fdd7355b8  Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
d365070088274d67bfb434237d12248aa6316dc4  Make -transport non-normative
cb9209e6472a73c207790207cfa3202983b3efd9  Reword packets stuff
f4f9f7adb6460d762a4d9468a307fce4fae478ac  Move blank lines
e133545372dbea7eb4a52ac6db5b7d5b4d6ca295  s/Len/Length/
ede2137e80798e97a73347246e5260595f542db0  Use an abbreviated notation section
181dd7efcd44cd0c85ec02f4b8ab39c647d4b46c  Add an example of a variable-length integer field
a621390f93a50fc63319b1724b68f51ae67be976  Add #3527 to transport's "Since ID-27" changelog
7688b67edac08a7b238ef842415fb8e8ae2eb181  Merge pull request #3685 from quicwg/varint-fmt-example
731fd5bf0d0d30ecd6c88e19ebdb7df5e041f43a  Merge pull request #3688 from dtikhonov/202005221557-add-3527-to-changelog
c03f045aa3b50e16c2192323c688a2a601c13958  rename SERVER_BUSY to CONNECTION_REFUSED
927fe3957b1930c38fbdf68dd950eec7bdff7db8  Better duplicate detection
9f8038def838e3d42c1595d35c5ba70bce19ea41  Remove migration from the example
0f6ca28b653cc6c0fdbe7450d027fa6c619e21a7  Rewording to avoid potential confusion
4a060d25fb1f99f520a676571dda60f85f8e8cd5  Citation rules FTW
d90c544322dc27c22539bb87fa09a6a110af4ab7  Tweaking
081f95f0de6f0b3c0736c36e0062a8cee6c540e6  Rewrap
cbb0b2bc2b10816f686896779361cc42f4be8c35  remove unnecessary sentence
bfddc8e7920972db67ac2f88a5e5919ed6910a06  Merge pull request #3684 from quicwg/invariant-independent
4d1bee363f0289ea7388a8283fe131c6841f6f23  plurals
e22909f972c6bc9f80f0ca27e3f51b9432cacde4  Merge pull request #3696 from quicwg/dedupe-packets
5ca8ae73d7c63ccae35a0a7e280b168b985c11be  Merge pull request #3697 from quicwg/cite-this
4134402aadc630c3ca95c100fabcb5530f02571f  Merge pull request #3694 from kazuho/kazuho/connection-refused-error
6ce4f9b1841f8f2296e7420b08a928a41f7f2a5a  Marten's suggestions
6de92cc83c3f7035140874aa971263cf47391f21  Fix pseudocode typo in OnPacketNumberSpaceDiscarded().
6afd6b8f6c7bb8f089690783335f1fec21aa45cc  Merge pull request #3705 from rpaulo/fix-recovery-pseudocode
f1fb3b57b37f0ee1dd366e46f992c48fb5d51db6  Add more context and text around ACK frequency
820497e882f930dcdc5d3ae7401add631ec0ea38  Merge branch 'master' into ianswett-split-pto-pseudocode
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9e6d2f14f14f6ffc50d6c31d4143223202411e4c  mt's excellent suggestions
f1d62609d466ca019f95677c6fdb5396544a7812  Apply suggestions from code review
e34dcf87d36270b9fd685c683a0c2fcfdec3a44d  ian/mt comments
f325eea2f03fb065316af8017f92f5c32ff5dac1  s/Intgeger/Integer
72e6455c1499319b7a32deb716f2ab044f08b2b7  Merge pull request #3664 from quicwg/ianswett-pacing-must
829501299ef329a19ab52f9f0702a85e144c18a7  Add an assert
92c2e22eaa7bce92d055dba4bf72ecfbc505e5dc  Apply suggestions from code review
8644f6db1937825ce8162558ea33b135967c3eeb  Merge pull request #3681 from quicwg/ianswett-split-pto-pseudocode
12b886d9ccc4cc16b019d9e91ed15abd83dbb456  Apply suggestions from code review
3c9f34272c60e7bd6607197bec94fcd889df83bc  s/sending rate/congestion window
76af223d868f9d50662e00245cb2e167e25baec8  Apply suggestions from code review
3bbb568d4860754976861809e9f313d5aaeb83d8  reflow
afb19d92e258f93e9315530090a62a466276abab  Stateless reset nits
da7b9411b72ef03e24f3257ae8c62dfe5398a52f  Merge pull request #3708 from quicwg/ianswett-stateless-reset-nits
b3ea75ac4d66a725efc76fe77f028e7fe1903df3  Merge pull request #3706 from quicwg/jri/ackf
ee88574c89796791d66269a9aa6a16eb85b534b1  Example of ChaCha20-Poly1305
b31eb923fb039d69f3d1e0893be1ac1c87585161  It's more believable to use HANDSHAKE_DONE
1d81fce14c2bff5e4c576c78a1795192460d5539  Wrong secret
b485b7922ff6f5ed61613e93a96c76afdf060528  Generate values with the script instead
e694476ffaaf2b50b92ce1a57126778733b47ce6  Narrow allowed CONNECTION_CLOSE in Initial/Handshake
8318c14e9a1b1ce079a3b6e3711d1514b3259514  typo
102f3997bf4d8dbf096831b0403096b780ca87b7  Merge pull request #3716 from quicwg/jri/mustnot
3e2ed4f4901c67362db261b03f5c07756e7d6930  Restore yet another missing period
ae1560647d9541c87bcdea7aae79ceb281c144b6  Fix another reference format
8afa46f476ba710189efb3688df59a07d54133cf  Merge pull request #3714 from quicwg/only-transport-close
53656c669925f4203fc1829c6f09f24d8d1b2540  Merge pull request #3718 from quicwg/missing-period-10k
a2a572a92e8e1cb8d891e518fd184be638ac52e6  Merge pull request #3719 from quicwg/fix-ref-10kplus
32fc567f44c02e3468d3cff727dfcbab18919fbf  Use 'message' less
f7a7f5b75bfeb84fbb82627bd342791e48b7ab7c  Merge pull request #3712 from quicwg/chacha20-sample
236b9375190673bd79845dd77771a9824ac1eaec  Don't use sequence number except for CID
36a066b405d39e5274ef2ce49f94c3389fef9180  Add missing Length field to header protection example.
f4db96e5d1018b061e487b5a7fde8be72462b21b  Merge pull request #3728 from kixelated/length
5a48f5ac024e340f7df7da00e20ec8a0e2c5b191  Merge pull request #3727 from quicwg/no-seqno
3e7e78b2895db424fc5bac1b63987a035fdab234  Merge pull request #3726 from quicwg/no-message
fa0b955031a93db0ad3ab0d4e0e6080222cc6d17  Merge commit '3541315cebf536990718f017beb83b4bd292587f' into dtikhonov-202005221628-frames-carry-not-send


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<p><a href="https://github.com/MikeBishop" class="user-mention">@MikeBishop</a> pushed 73 commits.</p>

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  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/de2b8544cc2449c97fc76d00efe0da83c2044e39">de2b854</a>  Move MUST not send bursts up in the pacing section</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/23e3109e596baa220b83923443df4ea60f71dde7">23e3109</a>  Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/290a5113d74c36b112d3ada80edc2f3ede23325b">290a511</a>  Split PTO calculation into a dedicated method</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d0050a08a17463fbf9f3bf25b61b50a982b4a07f">d0050a0</a>  Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/65b036d2c0437e81e0533a76e863bebfaa3207a3">65b036d</a>  Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2630bfdfe743909fb7bd3a92a41bd5f794cc503d">2630bfd</a>  Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/83727ca4f10a4d3866ea026efff3cb833111d1f8">83727ca</a>  Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f10875ed05f2edd3fe121631bf89c4a877204fb5">f10875e</a>  Fix errors</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/242e38d3b7e6170b59b347de6d8b3686af356c11">242e38d</a>  Apply suggestions from code review</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7a330219f1b116f3bc1ddbcf8cb8fd8fdd7355b8">7a33021</a>  Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d365070088274d67bfb434237d12248aa6316dc4">d365070</a>  Make -transport non-normative</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/cb9209e6472a73c207790207cfa3202983b3efd9">cb9209e</a>  Reword packets stuff</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f4f9f7adb6460d762a4d9468a307fce4fae478ac">f4f9f7a</a>  Move blank lines</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e133545372dbea7eb4a52ac6db5b7d5b4d6ca295">e133545</a>  s/Len/Length/</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ede2137e80798e97a73347246e5260595f542db0">ede2137</a>  Use an abbreviated notation section</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/181dd7efcd44cd0c85ec02f4b8ab39c647d4b46c">181dd7e</a>  Add an example of a variable-length integer field</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a621390f93a50fc63319b1724b68f51ae67be976">a621390</a>  Add #3527 to transport&#39;s &quot;Since ID-27&quot; changelog</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7688b67edac08a7b238ef842415fb8e8ae2eb181">7688b67</a>  Merge pull request #3685 from quicwg/varint-fmt-example</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/731fd5bf0d0d30ecd6c88e19ebdb7df5e041f43a">731fd5b</a>  Merge pull request #3688 from dtikhonov/202005221557-add-3527-to-changelog</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c03f045aa3b50e16c2192323c688a2a601c13958">c03f045</a>  rename SERVER_BUSY to CONNECTION_REFUSED</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/927fe3957b1930c38fbdf68dd950eec7bdff7db8">927fe39</a>  Better duplicate detection</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9f8038def838e3d42c1595d35c5ba70bce19ea41">9f8038d</a>  Remove migration from the example</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0f6ca28b653cc6c0fdbe7450d027fa6c619e21a7">0f6ca28</a>  Rewording to avoid potential confusion</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4a060d25fb1f99f520a676571dda60f85f8e8cd5">4a060d2</a>  Citation rules FTW</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d90c544322dc27c22539bb87fa09a6a110af4ab7">d90c544</a>  Tweaking</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/081f95f0de6f0b3c0736c36e0062a8cee6c540e6">081f95f</a>  Rewrap</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/cbb0b2bc2b10816f686896779361cc42f4be8c35">cbb0b2b</a>  remove unnecessary sentence</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/bfddc8e7920972db67ac2f88a5e5919ed6910a06">bfddc8e</a>  Merge pull request #3684 from quicwg/invariant-independent</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4d1bee363f0289ea7388a8283fe131c6841f6f23">4d1bee3</a>  plurals</li>
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  Branch: refs/heads/keep-alive
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-06-10 (Wed, 10 Jun 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Improve HTTP draft wording: frames carry identifier values

The endpoint sends frames, which *carry* -- not send -- identifier values.


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Improve HTTP draft wording: frames carry identifier values


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  Branch: refs/heads/master
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
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  Changed paths:
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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

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  Make keep-alive advice more generic

This moves it up under the idle timeout section.  As discussed on the
issue, the HTTP draft is basically good.

Closes #3723.


  Commit: 71a41f772f34776e880ec4e3561f767d4aff9415
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  Merge pull request #3745 from quicwg/keep-alive

Make keep-alive advice more generic


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N was introduced in #3630 to describe how a sender might pace at a rate that allows it to send a congestion window's worth of data in a period that is shorter than an RTT. This PR clarifies text that goes into unnecessary detail, trying to describe assumptions (the network is spreading the packets out, for example, resulting in an ack clock).

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-- Commit Summary --

  * Changelogs for -29

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    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (5)
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@janaiyengar approved this pull request.

One suggestion, but LGTM

> @@ -7001,6 +7001,15 @@ incurred.
 
 Issue and pull request numbers are listed with a leading octothorp.
 
+## Since draft-ietf-quic-transport-28
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+- Made error 0x2 more generic, now CONNECTION_REFUSED (#3709, #3690, #3694)

```suggestion
- Made SERVER_BUSY error (0x2) more generic, now CONNECTION_REFUSED (#3709, #3690,
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> @@ -908,12 +908,10 @@ Or, expressed as an inter-packet interval:
 interval = smoothed_rtt * packet_size / congestion_window / N
 ~~~
 
-Using a value for `N` that is small, but at least 1 (for example, 1.25) ensures
-that variations in round-trip time don't result in under-utilization of the
-congestion window.  Values of 'N' larger than 1 ultimately result in sending
-packets as acknowledgments are received rather than when timers fire, provided
-the congestion window is fully utilized and acknowledgments arrive at regular
-intervals.
+Using a value for N that is low, but at least 1 (for example, 1.25) ensures that
+variations in round-trip time don't result in under-utilization of the
+congestion window. Note that a higher N results in the inter-packet interval
+becoming smaller, and a large enough N defeats the purpose of pacing.

This last point is true only in the extreme.

I'm not a fan of this PR, but you probably already know that.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3667#discussion_r437779369">draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -908,12 +908,10 @@ Or, expressed as an inter-packet interval:
 interval = smoothed_rtt * packet_size / congestion_window / N
 ~~~
 
-Using a value for `N` that is small, but at least 1 (for example, 1.25) ensures
-that variations in round-trip time don&#39;t result in under-utilization of the
-congestion window.  Values of &#39;N&#39; larger than 1 ultimately result in sending
-packets as acknowledgments are received rather than when timers fire, provided
-the congestion window is fully utilized and acknowledgments arrive at regular
-intervals.
+Using a value for N that is low, but at least 1 (for example, 1.25) ensures that
+variations in round-trip time don&#39;t result in under-utilization of the
+congestion window. Note that a higher N results in the inter-packet interval
+becoming smaller, and a large enough N defeats the purpose of pacing.
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<p>This last point is true only in the extreme.</p>
<p>I'm not a fan of this PR, but you probably already know that.</p>

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LGTM, though I think you could avoid listing drafts.

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The first inverts the description of &quot;ih&quot; to be clearer.

The second makes it clearer for IANA that the &quot;packets&quot; column can be
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  * Fixes for the &quot;packets&quot; column

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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (5)

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<p>The first inverts the description of "ih" to be clearer.</p>
<p>The second makes it clearer for IANA that the "packets" column can be<br>
ignored.</p>

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<h4>You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:</h4>
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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>Fixes for the &quot;packets&quot; column</li>
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Shouldn't this be against the -tls changelog?

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  Branch: refs/heads/fix-chello
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-06-10 (Wed, 10 Jun 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M protection-samples.js

  Log Message:
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  Make the TLS messages plausible

Here is the breakdown of the ClientHello:

```
060040f1 = CRYPTO offset 0, length 241
010000ed = TLS Handshake length 237
0303 = version: TLS 1.2
ebf8fa56f12939b9584a3896472ec40bb863cfd3e86804fe3a47f06a2b69484c = random
00 = legacy_session_id
0004 13011302 = cipher_suites: TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256, TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384
0100 = legacy_compression_methods: none
00e0 = extensions length 194
0000 0010 000e 00 000b 6578616d706c652e636f6d = server name: example.com
ff01 0001 00 = renegotiation info
000a 0008 0006 001d00170018 = supported groups: 25519, P-256, P-384
0010 0007 000504616c706e = alpn: h3-28
0005 0005 0100000000 = certificate status
0033 0026 0024001d00209370b2c9caa47fbabaf4559fedba753de171fa71f50f1ce15d43e994ec74d748 = key share: 25519
002b 0003 020304 = supported versions: TLS 1.3
000d 0010 000e 0403050306030203080408050806 = signature algorithms: some irrelevant stuff here
002d 0002 0101 = psk modes: psk+dh
001c 0002 4001 = record size limit: max
ffa5 0032 = QUIC transport parameters extension
04 08 ffffffffffffffff = initial_max_data 2^62-1
05 04 8000ffff = initial_max_stream_data_bidi_local 2^16-1
07 04 8000ffff = initial_max_stream_data_uni 2^16-1
08 01 10 = initial_max_streams_bidi 16
01 04 80007530 = max_idle_timeout 30s
09 01 10 = initial_max_streams_uni 16
0f 08 8394c8f03e515708 = initial_source_connection_id
06 04 8000ffff = initial_max_stream_data_bidi_remote 2^16-1
```

The ServerHello was OK, but the framing wasn't.


  Commit: 0b4681671ced10eece12919d3fd4d6eb5950043c
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-06-10 (Wed, 10 Jun 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  Update samples in the draft based on changed content


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These messages should be plausible based on the requirements of draft-29.  They are taken from a real implementation, then scrubbed to make sense.  Mostly this is just TLS options that don&#39;t make a whole lot of sense in QUIC that I removed.  I also scrubbed out disable_active_migration, because I don&#39;t think that belongs in the spec.

The ServerHello was OK, but the framing we were using was well out of date.  I fixed that up too.

Hopefully we don&#39;t change too much more before this is over, because this process is a little tedious.  The first commit includes the manual breakdown I did of the messages.
You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3753

-- Commit Summary --

  * Make the TLS messages plausible
  * Update samples in the draft based on changed content

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md (63)
    M protection-samples.js (20)

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<p>These messages should be plausible based on the requirements of draft-29.  They are taken from a real implementation, then scrubbed to make sense.  Mostly this is just TLS options that don't make a whole lot of sense in QUIC that I removed.  I also scrubbed out disable_active_migration, because I don't think that belongs in the spec.</p>
<p>The ServerHello was OK, but the framing we were using was well out of date.  I fixed that up too.</p>
<p>Hopefully we don't change too much more before this is over, because this process is a little tedious.  The first commit includes the manual breakdown I did of the messages.</p>

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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3753'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3753</a></p>

<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>Make the TLS messages plausible</li>
  <li>Update samples in the draft based on changed content</li>
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  * transport: use &quot;CONNECTION_REFUSED&quot; consistently

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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (2)

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  <li>transport: use &quot;CONNECTION_REFUSED&quot; consistently</li>
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The "Values of Transport Parameters for 0-RTT" section lists some, but not all, of the transport parameters defined in the spec. As currently written, it is ambiguous whether a server needs to remember the parameters not listed. (A list of parameters that the client MUST NOT remember, and therefore the server need not remember, is provided, as well as a list that the server MUST remember so it doesn't lower limits.)

As far as I understand the definitions of the remaining parameters, there isn't any need for a server to remember them. However, instead of requiring implementors to read through all of the transport parameter definitions and infer this on their own, it would be easier on implementors to spell this out in this section. (This is required for definitions of new parameters.)

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<p>The "Values of Transport Parameters for 0-RTT" section lists some, but not all, of the transport parameters defined in the spec. As currently written, it is ambiguous whether a server needs to remember the parameters not listed. (A list of parameters that the client MUST NOT remember, and therefore the server need not remember, is provided, as well as a list that the server MUST remember so it doesn't lower limits.)</p>
<p>As far as I understand the definitions of the remaining parameters, there isn't any need for a server to remember them. However, instead of requiring implementors to read through all of the transport parameter definitions and infer this on their own, it would be easier on implementors to spell this out in this section. (This is required for definitions of new parameters.)</p>

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The section for &quot;Values of Transport Parameters for 0-RTT&quot; specifies
which parameters a client MUST or MUST NOT remember. It does not do the
same for a server. (It implies that ones a client MUST NOT remember also
don&#39;t need to be remembered by a server, and it lists a subset of the
remaining as ones the server MUST remember.) This commit adds the
remaining parameters to a list that the server need not remember.

Fixes #3755 
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  * Mention every Transport Parameter in section on values for 0-RTT

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (10)

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<p>The section for "Values of Transport Parameters for 0-RTT" specifies<br>
which parameters a client MUST or MUST NOT remember. It does not do the<br>
same for a server. (It implies that ones a client MUST NOT remember also<br>
don't need to be remembered by a server, and it lists a subset of the<br>
remaining as ones the server MUST remember.) This commit adds the<br>
remaining parameters to a list that the server need not remember.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3755.">Fixes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="636547615" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3755" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3755/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3755">#3755</a></p>

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  <li>Mention every Transport Parameter in section on values for 0-RTT</li>
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    <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3756/files#diff-db016291106766877c4921a79f8596e0">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>
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Does this need to be in the changelog? The changelog doesn't state that the version number changed, and I view the initial salts as deeply tied to the version number.

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<p>Does this need to be in the changelog? The changelog doesn't state that the version number changed, and I view the initial salts as deeply tied to the version number.</p>

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@martinthomson commented on this pull request.

The reason that this is left unstated is the problem I've identified below.  I would prefer not to do this.

> @@ -1749,6 +1749,16 @@ values for 0-RTT.  This includes initial_max_data and either
 initial_max_streams_bidi and initial_max_stream_data_bidi_remote, or
 initial_max_streams_uni and initial_max_stream_data_uni.
 
+When accepting 0-RTT data, a server may set values for the following parameters

```suggestion
When accepting 0-RTT data, a server MAY set values for the following parameters
```
?

> @@ -1749,6 +1749,16 @@ values for 0-RTT.  This includes initial_max_data and either
 initial_max_streams_bidi and initial_max_stream_data_bidi_remote, or
 initial_max_streams_uni and initial_max_stream_data_uni.
 
+When accepting 0-RTT data, a server may set values for the following parameters
+that are smaller than the values remembered by the client. Because the previous
+values set for these parameters do not affect what values can be set when
+accepting 0-RTT data, it is not necessary that the server be able to recover the
+values it previously sent.
+
+* max_idle_timeout
+* max_udp_payload_size

But this does affect 0-RTT.  Though we accepted @kazuho's argument that this manifests in a fashion indistinguishable from a change in Path MTU, that doesn't mean that changing it has no consequence, as this text implies.

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Both Lars and David are right.  

This is a change limited to the -tls draft.

We haven't listed changed keying material in previous changelogs.  Of course, because we haven't been consistent about updating them, I can see why you might want what appears to be an exception called out.

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<p>Both Lars and David are right.</p>
<p>This is a change limited to the -tls draft.</p>
<p>We haven't listed changed keying material in previous changelogs.  Of course, because we haven't been consistent about updating them, I can see why you might want what appears to be an exception called out.</p>

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> @@ -1749,6 +1749,16 @@ values for 0-RTT.  This includes initial_max_data and either
 initial_max_streams_bidi and initial_max_stream_data_bidi_remote, or
 initial_max_streams_uni and initial_max_stream_data_uni.
 
+When accepting 0-RTT data, a server may set values for the following parameters
+that are smaller than the values remembered by the client. Because the previous
+values set for these parameters do not affect what values can be set when
+accepting 0-RTT data, it is not necessary that the server be able to recover the
+values it previously sent.
+
+* max_idle_timeout
+* max_udp_payload_size

What transport parameters a server sends cannot, as currently specified, affect 0-RTT, because a client MUST only use remembered transport parameters when sending 0-RTT packets. If changing the max_udp_payload_size does somehow affect 0-RTT, then we need to revisit more of the 0-RTT Transport Parameter handling.

As currently specified, there is no prohibition on the server changing (including reducing) the max_udp_payload_size when accepting 0-RTT. As far as I can figure out, the only implication for accepting 0-RTT and reducing max_udp_payload_size is that some 0-RTT packets might get lost. If the server remembers this parameter, it could choose to reject 0-RTT which explicitly signals to the client to retransmit all frames. The server (whether or not it remembers this parameter) could also accept 0-RTT, process whichever packets get through, and let the client's loss/recovery algorithm retransmit frames. It seems like we end up at the same place either way, possibly with different performance characteristics.

What I'm trying to say is "it is not a requirement to remember parameters on this list". I'm not trying to say "don't remember parameters on this list".

Should we add some language here to state that a server may wish to remember some of these?

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3756#discussion_r438475514">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1749,6 +1749,16 @@ values for 0-RTT.  This includes initial_max_data and either
 initial_max_streams_bidi and initial_max_stream_data_bidi_remote, or
 initial_max_streams_uni and initial_max_stream_data_uni.
 
+When accepting 0-RTT data, a server may set values for the following parameters
+that are smaller than the values remembered by the client. Because the previous
+values set for these parameters do not affect what values can be set when
+accepting 0-RTT data, it is not necessary that the server be able to recover the
+values it previously sent.
+
+* max_idle_timeout
+* max_udp_payload_size
</pre>
<p>What transport parameters a server sends cannot, as currently specified, affect 0-RTT, because a client MUST only use remembered transport parameters when sending 0-RTT packets. If changing the max_udp_payload_size does somehow affect 0-RTT, then we need to revisit more of the 0-RTT Transport Parameter handling.</p>
<p>As currently specified, there is no prohibition on the server changing (including reducing) the max_udp_payload_size when accepting 0-RTT. As far as I can figure out, the only implication for accepting 0-RTT and reducing max_udp_payload_size is that some 0-RTT packets might get lost. If the server remembers this parameter, it could choose to reject 0-RTT which explicitly signals to the client to retransmit all frames. The server (whether or not it remembers this parameter) could also accept 0-RTT, process whichever packets get through, and let the client's loss/recovery algorithm retransmit frames. It seems like we end up at the same place either way, possibly with different performance characteristics.</p>
<p>What I'm trying to say is "it is not a requirement to remember parameters on this list". I'm not trying to say "don't remember parameters on this list".</p>
<p>Should we add some language here to state that a server may wish to remember some of these?</p>

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> @@ -1749,6 +1749,16 @@ values for 0-RTT.  This includes initial_max_data and either
 initial_max_streams_bidi and initial_max_stream_data_bidi_remote, or
 initial_max_streams_uni and initial_max_stream_data_uni.
 
+When accepting 0-RTT data, a server may set values for the following parameters
+that are smaller than the values remembered by the client. Because the previous
+values set for these parameters do not affect what values can be set when
+accepting 0-RTT data, it is not necessary that the server be able to recover the
+values it previously sent.
+
+* max_idle_timeout
+* max_udp_payload_size

I think it might be a good idea to change the reasoning to something like: "Because the previous values set for these parameters do not affect what can be carried by 0-RTT packets"

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3756#discussion_r438482537">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1749,6 +1749,16 @@ values for 0-RTT.  This includes initial_max_data and either
 initial_max_streams_bidi and initial_max_stream_data_bidi_remote, or
 initial_max_streams_uni and initial_max_stream_data_uni.
 
+When accepting 0-RTT data, a server may set values for the following parameters
+that are smaller than the values remembered by the client. Because the previous
+values set for these parameters do not affect what values can be set when
+accepting 0-RTT data, it is not necessary that the server be able to recover the
+values it previously sent.
+
+* max_idle_timeout
+* max_udp_payload_size
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<p>I think it might be a good idea to change the reasoning to something like: "Because the previous values set for these parameters do not affect what can be carried by 0-RTT packets"</p>

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ABNF does not seem to be used in this document.
You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3757

-- Commit Summary --

  * http: no ABNF

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (3)

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<p>ABNF does not seem to be used in this document.</p>

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<h4>You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:</h4>
<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3757'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3757</a></p>

<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>http: no ABNF</li>
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    <strong>M</strong>
    <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3757/files#diff-3d2f9fd0738589657498f2c06ee02f2f">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>
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  * http: expand &quot;ALPN&quot; on first use and ref RFC 7301

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    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (3)

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Actually, as 3.1 is "to bre removed before publication", the expansion and ref should be in 3.2.1.

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  * Use the same spelling of &quot;trade-off&quot; in two places

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I don't know about "when deciding the streams" -- how can one decide a stream?

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I agree this sentence is quite awkward

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<p>I agree this sentence is quite awkward</p>

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When I read 3.0 I was a bit confused, because when the discussion of streams takes place in section 2.1, the requirement on stream ID ordering is already mentioned, but the reminder of what the types are is fresh in the mind. Perhaps this should be revised.


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When I was reading quic-transport I found it very difficult to deal with the forward references. Streams are presented before connections, the overall state machine isn't introduced up front, packets come long after frames, and both are long before the wire formats are described. It might worth revisiting the section ordering.

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
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      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a54b06538d94424328019fc819828d964d9bcac1
  Author: Dmitri Tikhonov <dtikhonov@litespeedtech.com>
  Date:   2020-06-12 (Fri, 12 Jun 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Use the same spelling of "trade-off" in two places


  Commit: 75ec66bcd1e2a02b3b333372e5c6a0cc867c66a9
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-06-15 (Mon, 15 Jun 2020)

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  Merge pull request #3759 from dtikhonov/202006121029-consistent-trade-offs

Use the same spelling of "trade-off" in two places


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it is now on tls doc and if you look there is already on changelog info about initial salt update (draft-22...)

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<p>it is now on tls doc and if you look there is already on changelog info about initial salt update (draft-22...)</p>

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Sorry, long weekend in Germany. Yep this sounds right. If you only have ECT(0), you can simplify test 2 to just do what you do in 3 ('ecn_inc[ECN_ECT0] + ecn_cnt[ECN_CE] < new_ack[ECN_ECT0]') and for test 3 you just need to check if there are any ECT(1) marking at all and fail if you ever get feedback that ECT(1) was observed.


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<p>Sorry, long weekend in Germany. Yep this sounds right. If you only have ECT(0), you can simplify test 2 to just do what you do in 3 ('ecn_inc[ECN_ECT0] + ecn_cnt[ECN_CE] &lt; new_ack[ECN_ECT0]') and for test 3 you just need to check if there are any ECT(1) marking at all and fail if you ever get feedback that ECT(1) was observed.</p>

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Issue #3608 by @MikeBishop was about deployments where migration with the handshake address was problematic, but migration with server preffered_address (SPA) was ok.

However, there are deployments where servers still have a preferred address, but client migration using either server address is not likely to work well,

For example, a server is a backend in front of a load balancer (and hence wants to use a prefered address that does not go via the load balancer for improved performance and reliability).  However, the server is in a network location that is unlikely to be accessible or be a logical choice when changing to a different network attachment provider.

So it is not a matter of "disambiguating connections using CIDs" (_as posed by @kazuho in response to @DavidSchinazi in https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3608#issuecomment-631869936_), but it is a matter of server's network location.

With #3670 PR, how is such server able to provide a SPA and still request that clients do not attempt an active migration after switching to SPA (occasional NAT rebidings are fine; it is changes to another network attachment provider -- active migrations -- that are not ok)?

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> However, there are deployments where servers still have a preferred address, but client migration using either server address is not likely to work well,

I think the question is how such an endpoint running the preferred address distinguish between the connections that migrate to that preferred address?

When a client migrates to the preferred address, the client-side tuple is allowed to change. Even if the client implementation continues to use the same port, the tuple could still change due to a NAT in the middle. Assuming that is the case, a server providing SPA is, in practice, required to be capable of using the connection ID to determine the connection. 

To paraphrase, the requirement for supporting SPA is equivalent to supporting migration. Both require CID-based routing. Hence no reason to have a knob to disable migration when SPA is being used.

> For example, a server is a backend in front of a load balancer (and hence wants to use a preferred address that does not go via the load balancer for improved performance and reliability). However, the server is in a network location that is unlikely to be accessible or be a logical choice when changing to a different network attachment provider.

I wonder if such deployment would have worked reliably even before draft-28. How can a server be sure that the client would not connect through a different network attachment provider? As stated above, it is my understanding that a client is allowed (and have to be allowed) to use any source tuple when migrating to SPA.

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<p>However, there are deployments where servers still have a preferred address, but client migration using either server address is not likely to work well,</p>
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<p>I think the question is how such an endpoint running the preferred address distinguish between the connections that migrate to that preferred address?</p>
<p>When a client migrates to the preferred address, the client-side tuple is allowed to change. Even if the client implementation continues to use the same port, the tuple could still change due to a NAT in the middle. Assuming that is the case, a server providing SPA is, in practice, required to be capable of using the connection ID to determine the connection.</p>
<p>To paraphrase, the requirement for supporting SPA is equivalent to supporting migration. Both require CID-based routing. Hence no reason to have a knob to disable migration when SPA is being used.</p>
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<p>I wonder if such deployment would have worked reliably even before draft-28. How can a server be sure that the client would not connect through a different network attachment provider? As stated above, it is my understanding that a client is allowed (and have to be allowed) to use any source tuple when migrating to SPA.</p>

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At some point, transport was hugely restructured, and I believe many of those changes were good, but some didn't work out that well.

I find streams coming before connections particularly odd.

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<p>At some point, transport was hugely restructured, and I believe many of those changes were good, but some didn't work out that well.</p>
<p>I find streams coming before connections particularly odd.</p>

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@igorlord it appears you're describing a case when policy precludes migrating with the SPA, even though it is likely to work from a technical perspective.

In this case, I believe you need to send a stateless reset to any clients that change IPs to ones which are not supported.  You'll want to do that anyway, but that does cost a round trip.

The design change would be to add a disable migration feature for every server IP, but I'm not sure that's warranted to save a round trip in this specific case.

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<p>In this case, I believe you need to send a stateless reset to any clients that change IPs to ones which are not supported.  You'll want to do that anyway, but that does cost a round trip.</p>
<p>The design change would be to add a disable migration feature for every server IP, but I'm not sure that's warranted to save a round trip in this specific case.</p>

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  * QUIC flow control is not quite like HTTP/2

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There is no problem in such deployment to do the right thing regarding Connection ID tracking, etc.  The problem that a change in network attachment provider is unlikely to work - you could either blackhole, get ICMP unreachable, or your performance would be slow.

If the client honors "disable_active_migration", they would open a new connection from the new network attachment provider (and maybe get a different deployment).  If the client ignores disable_active_migration, they are on their own.  (After path verification, the HTTP3 server would likely send GoAway or close the connection.)

>  it is my understanding that a client is allowed (and have to be allowed) to use any source tuple when migrating to SPA.

This is the consequence of #3608 (#3670), which breaks the deployment scenario in this issue.  (It used to be handled ok before.)

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<p>There is no problem in such deployment to do the right thing regarding Connection ID tracking, etc.  The problem that a change in network attachment provider is unlikely to work - you could either blackhole, get ICMP unreachable, or your performance would be slow.</p>
<p>If the client honors "disable_active_migration", they would open a new connection from the new network attachment provider (and maybe get a different deployment).  If the client ignores disable_active_migration, they are on their own.  (After path verification, the HTTP3 server would likely send GoAway or close the connection.)</p>
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<p>it is my understanding that a client is allowed (and have to be allowed) to use any source tuple when migrating to SPA.</p>
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<p>This is the consequence of <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="609163676" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3608" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3608/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3608">#3608</a> (<a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="621330495" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3670" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3670/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3670">#3670</a>), which breaks the deployment scenario in this issue.  (It used to be handled ok before.)</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
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      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/99955d4789a4da62657170a542782fcfa7953d35
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-06-10 (Wed, 10 Jun 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Fixes for the "packets" column

The first inverts the description of "ih" to be clearer.

The second makes it clearer for IANA that the "packets" column can be
ignored.


  Commit: 94382bcb479def336891a653fe5f3286fb74f57a
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/94382bcb479def336891a653fe5f3286fb74f57a
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  Merge pull request #3751 from quicwg/only-0x1c

Fixes for the "packets" column


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> @@ -1749,6 +1749,16 @@ values for 0-RTT.  This includes initial_max_data and either
 initial_max_streams_bidi and initial_max_stream_data_bidi_remote, or
 initial_max_streams_uni and initial_max_stream_data_uni.
 
+When accepting 0-RTT data, a server may set values for the following parameters
+that are smaller than the values remembered by the client. Because the previous
+values set for these parameters do not affect what values can be set when
+accepting 0-RTT data, it is not necessary that the server be able to recover the
+values it previously sent.
+
+* max_idle_timeout
+* max_udp_payload_size

How about something like this: "While changing the value of these parameters can degrade performance of this connection, the connection is expected to proceed correctly. It is therefore acceptable for the server to not recover the values it previously sent."

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3756#discussion_r440452630">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1749,6 +1749,16 @@ values for 0-RTT.  This includes initial_max_data and either
 initial_max_streams_bidi and initial_max_stream_data_bidi_remote, or
 initial_max_streams_uni and initial_max_stream_data_uni.
 
+When accepting 0-RTT data, a server may set values for the following parameters
+that are smaller than the values remembered by the client. Because the previous
+values set for these parameters do not affect what values can be set when
+accepting 0-RTT data, it is not necessary that the server be able to recover the
+values it previously sent.
+
+* max_idle_timeout
+* max_udp_payload_size
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<p>How about something like this: "While changing the value of these parameters can degrade performance of this connection, the connection is expected to proceed correctly. It is therefore acceptable for the server to not recover the values it previously sent."</p>

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> @@ -399,9 +399,8 @@ Instead, it relies on receiving priority information from the application that
 uses QUIC.
 
 A QUIC implementation SHOULD provide ways in which an application can indicate
-the relative priority of streams.  When deciding the streams to which resources
-are dedicated, the implementation SHOULD use the information provided by the
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+the relative priority of streams.  An implementation uses information provided
+by an application to determine how to allocate resources to active streams.

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> @@ -1749,6 +1749,16 @@ values for 0-RTT.  This includes initial_max_data and either
 initial_max_streams_bidi and initial_max_stream_data_bidi_remote, or
 initial_max_streams_uni and initial_max_stream_data_uni.
 
+When accepting 0-RTT data, a server may set values for the following parameters
+that are smaller than the values remembered by the client. Because the previous
+values set for these parameters do not affect what values can be set when
+accepting 0-RTT data, it is not necessary that the server be able to recover the
+values it previously sent.
+
+* max_idle_timeout
+* max_udp_payload_size

Something like that sounds reasonable. I'll work on wording to say something along those lines and "your implementation is not incorrect if it chooses not to remember those values, but there may be optimizations that could involve remembering them".

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3756#discussion_r440454153">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1749,6 +1749,16 @@ values for 0-RTT.  This includes initial_max_data and either
 initial_max_streams_bidi and initial_max_stream_data_bidi_remote, or
 initial_max_streams_uni and initial_max_stream_data_uni.
 
+When accepting 0-RTT data, a server may set values for the following parameters
+that are smaller than the values remembered by the client. Because the previous
+values set for these parameters do not affect what values can be set when
+accepting 0-RTT data, it is not necessary that the server be able to recover the
+values it previously sent.
+
+* max_idle_timeout
+* max_udp_payload_size
</pre>
<p>Something like that sounds reasonable. I'll work on wording to say something along those lines and "your implementation is not incorrect if it chooses not to remember those values, but there may be optimizations that could involve remembering them".</p>

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> @@ -1749,6 +1749,16 @@ values for 0-RTT.  This includes initial_max_data and either
 initial_max_streams_bidi and initial_max_stream_data_bidi_remote, or
 initial_max_streams_uni and initial_max_stream_data_uni.
 
+When accepting 0-RTT data, a server may set values for the following parameters
+that are smaller than the values remembered by the client. Because the previous
+values set for these parameters do not affect what values can be set when
+accepting 0-RTT data, it is not necessary that the server be able to recover the
+values it previously sent.
+
+* max_idle_timeout
+* max_udp_payload_size

Whether this is an optimization or not depends on the implementations in question. Basically, I think this boils down to what do we want default behavior to be. I would suggest saying that there could be performance penalties for not remembering them, simply because a server that doesn't remember max_udp_payload_size but drops packets that are larger will cause perf penalties.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3756#discussion_r440456616">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1749,6 +1749,16 @@ values for 0-RTT.  This includes initial_max_data and either
 initial_max_streams_bidi and initial_max_stream_data_bidi_remote, or
 initial_max_streams_uni and initial_max_stream_data_uni.
 
+When accepting 0-RTT data, a server may set values for the following parameters
+that are smaller than the values remembered by the client. Because the previous
+values set for these parameters do not affect what values can be set when
+accepting 0-RTT data, it is not necessary that the server be able to recover the
+values it previously sent.
+
+* max_idle_timeout
+* max_udp_payload_size
</pre>
<p>Whether this is an optimization or not depends on the implementations in question. Basically, I think this boils down to what do we want default behavior to be. I would suggest saying that there could be performance penalties for not remembering them, simply because a server that doesn't remember max_udp_payload_size but drops packets that are larger will cause perf penalties.</p>

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>> it is my understanding that a client is allowed (and have to be allowed) to use any source tuple when migrating to SPA.
>
> This is the consequence of #3608 (#3670), which breaks the deployment scenario in this issue. (It used to be handled ok before.)

I disagree. Since the earlier versions of the draft, a client has been allowed to use a different address, when migrating to SPA. A prominent example is a client switching to a different IP protocol (i.e. from v4 to v6, or vice versa).

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<p>This is the consequence of <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="609163676" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3608" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3608/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3608">#3608</a> (<a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="621330495" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3670" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3670/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3670">#3670</a>), which breaks the deployment scenario in this issue. (It used to be handled ok before.)</p>
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@ianswett Policy could be one reason.  Technical network topology is a very likely other reason.

Think of Netflix or YouTube or CDN caches deep inside a provider network.  It is not just a matter of policy that things would not work great, if you migrated to a different provider.  This is a very common deployment model on the Internet today.  Pre- #3608 (#3670),  such deployments would work fine.  The new language that exempts SPA from "disable_active_migration" breaks these deployments.

Maybe there is a need to distinguish "disable_network_migration" (original meaning of "disable_active_migration") from "preferred_address_migration_only" (the new concept introduced by #3670).

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> Since the earlier versions of the draft, a client has been allowed to use a different address, when migrating to SPA. A prominent example is a client switching to a different IP protocol (i.e. from v4 to v6, or vice versa).

Of course, by default the client can use any address when migrating.  A Carrier NAT may switch source IPs automatically anyway.  The question is interaction of _disable_active_migration_ and _SPA_ features.  We've previously been treating disable_active_migration as "do not switch client addresses deliberately", while SPA is a request to "switch server address".

There are important use cases for both types of behaviours -- ok for clients to switch networks when using preferred address and not ok for clients to switch networks when using preferred address.

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<p>Since the earlier versions of the draft, a client has been allowed to use a different address, when migrating to SPA. A prominent example is a client switching to a different IP protocol (i.e. from v4 to v6, or vice versa).</p>
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<p>Of course, by default the client can use any address when migrating.  A Carrier NAT may switch source IPs automatically anyway.  The question is interaction of <em>disable_active_migration</em> and <em>SPA</em> features.  We've previously been treating disable_active_migration as "do not switch client addresses deliberately", while SPA is a request to "switch server address".</p>
<p>There are important use cases for both types of behaviours -- ok for clients to switch networks when using preferred address and not ok for clients to switch networks when using preferred address.</p>

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Maybe use <= rather than < though.

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<p>Maybe use &lt;= rather than &lt; though.</p>

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> @@ -792,10 +792,9 @@ is not excessive buffering at multiple layers.
 
 ## Data Flow Control {#data-flow-control}
 
-QUIC employs a credit-based flow-control scheme similar to that in HTTP/2
-{{?HTTP2}}, where a receiver advertises the number of bytes it is prepared to
-receive on a given stream and for the entire connection.  This leads to two
-levels of data flow control in QUIC:
+QUIC employs a limit-based flow-control scheme similar, where a receiver

```suggestion
QUIC employs a limit-based flow-control scheme where a receiver
```

> -A receiver MAY send MAX_STREAM_DATA frames in multiple packets in order to make
-sure that the sender receives an update before running out of flow control
-credit, even if one of the packets is lost.
-
-A receiver advertises credit for a connection by sending a MAX_DATA frame, which
-indicates the maximum of the sum of the absolute byte offsets of all streams.  A
-receiver maintains a cumulative sum of bytes received on all streams, which is
-used to check for flow control violations. A receiver might use a sum of bytes
-consumed on all streams to determine the maximum data limit to be advertised.
-
-A receiver can advertise a larger offset by sending MAX_STREAM_DATA or MAX_DATA
-frames.  Once a receiver advertises an offset, it MAY advertise a smaller
-offset, but this has no effect.
+frames to the sender to advertise larger limits.
+
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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: 43dde18c698710e2d9fb60067fbf067e44a52d52
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  Reword sentence on resource allocation


  Commit: 1fbe0ea3b4f32134eb967c3ddc1862a07aaf773d
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  the/an

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  Commit: 26b73695266ff7cb9a74914a18abb44855ac78ad
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  Merge pull request #3764 from quicwg/resource-allocation

Reword sentence on resource allocation


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/94382bcb479d...26b73695266f


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> @@ -1749,6 +1749,16 @@ values for 0-RTT.  This includes initial_max_data and either
 initial_max_streams_bidi and initial_max_stream_data_bidi_remote, or
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+When accepting 0-RTT data, a server may set values for the following parameters
+that are smaller than the values remembered by the client. Because the previous
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+accepting 0-RTT data, it is not necessary that the server be able to recover the
+values it previously sent.
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+* max_udp_payload_size

If the number is large relative to the PMTU, then there is no benefit.  If the client remembers PMTU it might choose to attempt 0-RTT using the same PMTU.  That allows for a larger congestion window and more data transferred in 0-RTT.  That might be more requests, which is a tiny benefit at best.

However, if the server forgets the max_udp_payload_size, and has a lower value now than the remembered PMTU, those 0-RTT packets will be dropped as they arrive.  If the server accepts 0-RTT in that case without considering the effect of max_udp_payload_size, then all those packets will be considered by the client to be lost.  The client will tell its congestion controller and reduce the congestion window.  Rather than staying in slow start, the client will exit very early and performance will be terrible.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3756#discussion_r440581742">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1749,6 +1749,16 @@ values for 0-RTT.  This includes initial_max_data and either
 initial_max_streams_bidi and initial_max_stream_data_bidi_remote, or
 initial_max_streams_uni and initial_max_stream_data_uni.
 
+When accepting 0-RTT data, a server may set values for the following parameters
+that are smaller than the values remembered by the client. Because the previous
+values set for these parameters do not affect what values can be set when
+accepting 0-RTT data, it is not necessary that the server be able to recover the
+values it previously sent.
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+* max_idle_timeout
+* max_udp_payload_size
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<p>If the number is large relative to the PMTU, then there is no benefit.  If the client remembers PMTU it might choose to attempt 0-RTT using the same PMTU.  That allows for a larger congestion window and more data transferred in 0-RTT.  That might be more requests, which is a tiny benefit at best.</p>
<p>However, if the server forgets the max_udp_payload_size, and has a lower value now than the remembered PMTU, those 0-RTT packets will be dropped as they arrive.  If the server accepts 0-RTT in that case without considering the effect of max_udp_payload_size, then all those packets will be considered by the client to be lost.  The client will tell its congestion controller and reduce the congestion window.  Rather than staying in slow start, the client will exit very early and performance will be terrible.</p>

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No, it does not unfortunately. My approval is probably useless.

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<p>No, it does not unfortunately. My approval is probably useless.</p>

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Well, not *completely* :)  I caught one error by feeding this to our implementation, but the fact is that you might find it hard to validate this fully.  For instance, our implementation doesn't really process the transport parameters until later.  It was perfectly happy to process a ClientHello that had no QUIC extension at all.

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<p>Well, not <em>completely</em> :)  I caught one error by feeding this to our implementation, but the fact is that you might find it hard to validate this fully.  For instance, our implementation doesn't really process the transport parameters until later.  It was perfectly happy to process a ClientHello that had no QUIC extension at all.</p>

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@martinthomson I'm not sure that's correct?

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Oh yes, didn't see that. I also think it should be <= . @larseggert why do think it should be < ?

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<p>Oh yes, didn't see that. I also think it should be &lt;= . <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/larseggert/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/larseggert">@larseggert</a> why do think it should be &lt; ?</p>

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Because if the number of marked packets in the ACK is == the number of marked packets I sent, that is not a verification failure? (Or am I misunderstanding something?)

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<p>Because if the number of marked packets in the ACK is == the number of marked packets I sent, that is not a verification failure? (Or am I misunderstanding something?)</p>

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Right... I got confused that the condition is about moving into failure mode. 

So usually the numbers should always be exactly equal; only if some marked packets get not ack'ed at all the received count could be larger than the number of marked sent and ack'ed packet. I guess, if you know that this is not the case you could be even stricter.

Otherwise if there are no unack'ed packets and the received count would be larger, it would mean you have some remarking from Not-ECT to ECT or CE. That less a problem in terms of hiding congestion but might still indicate that something is wrong... however, given that you mark all packet in your implementation with ECT(0) that case should not happen.


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<p>Right... I got confused that the condition is about moving into failure mode.</p>
<p>So usually the numbers should always be exactly equal; only if some marked packets get not ack'ed at all the received count could be larger than the number of marked sent and ack'ed packet. I guess, if you know that this is not the case you could be even stricter.</p>
<p>Otherwise if there are no unack'ed packets and the received count would be larger, it would mean you have some remarking from Not-ECT to ECT or CE. That less a problem in terms of hiding congestion but might still indicate that something is wrong... however, given that you mark all packet in your implementation with ECT(0) that case should not happen.</p>

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And as noted the primary failure mode where increase of reference counter can be larger than newely ACKed packets is lost ACKs. Section 13.4.1 is clear on that duplicate packets shall be surpressed prior to increasing the relevant ECN counter.

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  * Some more explanation on ECN validation to address issue #3733

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (8)

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The discussion on the previous issue was that if this scenario was needed, an extension could be defined that gives the same guidance for the SPAs.  That offers better flexibility, and clients would be motivated to implement if it saves them a round trip discovering a broken connection when connections will break anyway.

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@MikeBishop I would think the new behaviour is better delegated to an extension.

The new language (w/o an extension) irreparably causes performance problems for the kind of very common deployments I've indicated -- if they use disable_active_migration w/ SPA, migrating clients will be affected after switching to SPA; if they use disable_active_migration w/o SPA, clients cannot use a more performant/reliable preferred address.

However, if you have a server deployment where client migration w/ SPA is fine, just provide SPA and do not set disable_active_migration.  The purpose of SPA is to tell the client "you will get better service using that other address".  So clients will just switch to SPA as soon as they can, and everyone will be happy.

The new behaviour is pandering to not-very-well-behaved clients that do not obey SPA at the expense of well-behaved ones.

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<p><a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/MikeBishop/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/MikeBishop">@MikeBishop</a> I would think the new behaviour is better delegated to an extension.</p>
<p>The new language (w/o an extension) irreparably causes performance problems for the kind of very common deployments I've indicated -- if they use disable_active_migration w/ SPA, migrating clients will be affected after switching to SPA; if they use disable_active_migration w/o SPA, clients cannot use a more performant/reliable preferred address.</p>
<p>However, if you have a server deployment where client migration w/ SPA is fine, just provide SPA and do not set disable_active_migration.  The purpose of SPA is to tell the client "you will get better service using that other address".  So clients will just switch to SPA as soon as they can, and everyone will be happy.</p>
<p>The new behaviour is pandering to not-very-well-behaved clients that do not obey SPA at the expense of well-behaved ones.</p>

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> @@ -1749,6 +1749,16 @@ values for 0-RTT.  This includes initial_max_data and either
 initial_max_streams_bidi and initial_max_stream_data_bidi_remote, or
 initial_max_streams_uni and initial_max_stream_data_uni.
 
+When accepting 0-RTT data, a server may set values for the following parameters
+that are smaller than the values remembered by the client. Because the previous
+values set for these parameters do not affect what values can be set when
+accepting 0-RTT data, it is not necessary that the server be able to recover the
+values it previously sent.
+
+* max_idle_timeout
+* max_udp_payload_size

Ah thanks @martinthomson that makes sense! Based on that I agree that mentioning this could help.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3756#discussion_r440999782">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1749,6 +1749,16 @@ values for 0-RTT.  This includes initial_max_data and either
 initial_max_streams_bidi and initial_max_stream_data_bidi_remote, or
 initial_max_streams_uni and initial_max_stream_data_uni.
 
+When accepting 0-RTT data, a server may set values for the following parameters
+that are smaller than the values remembered by the client. Because the previous
+values set for these parameters do not affect what values can be set when
+accepting 0-RTT data, it is not necessary that the server be able to recover the
+values it previously sent.
+
+* max_idle_timeout
+* max_udp_payload_size
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Our paper on robust channels is now available in the IACR ePrint archive; I updated title + link.
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<p>Our paper on robust channels is now available in the IACR ePrint archive; I updated title + link.</p>

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  Make usage of "out of order" and "out-of-order" consistent


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  Merge pull request #3760 from dtikhonov/202006121104-consistent-out-of-order

Make usage of "out of order" and "out-of-order" consistent


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> +A receiver can advertise a larger limit for a stream by sending a MAX_STREAM_DATA
+frame with the Stream ID field set appropriately.  A MAX_STREAM_DATA frame
+indicates the maximum absolute byte offset of a stream.  A receiver could use the
+current offset of data consumed to determine the flow control offset to be
+advertised. A receiver MAY send MAX_STREAM_DATA frames in multiple packets in
+order to make sure that the sender receives an update before running out of
+flow control, even if one of the packets is lost.
+
+A receiver can advertise a larger limit for a connection by sending a MAX_DATA
+frame, which indicates the maximum of the sum of the absolute byte offsets of
+all streams.  A receiver maintains a cumulative sum of bytes received on all
+streams, which is used to check for flow control violations. A receiver might
+use a sum of bytes consumed on all streams to determine the maximum data limit
+to be advertised.
+
+Once a receiver advertises an offset for the connection or a stream, it MAY

```suggestion
Once a receiver advertises a limit for the connection or a stream, it MAY
```

limit seems more consistent now

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> +frame with the Stream ID field set appropriately.  A MAX_STREAM_DATA frame
+indicates the maximum absolute byte offset of a stream.  A receiver could use the
+current offset of data consumed to determine the flow control offset to be
+advertised. A receiver MAY send MAX_STREAM_DATA frames in multiple packets in
+order to make sure that the sender receives an update before running out of
+flow control, even if one of the packets is lost.
+
+A receiver can advertise a larger limit for a connection by sending a MAX_DATA
+frame, which indicates the maximum of the sum of the absolute byte offsets of
+all streams.  A receiver maintains a cumulative sum of bytes received on all
+streams, which is used to check for flow control violations. A receiver might
+use a sum of bytes consumed on all streams to determine the maximum data limit
+to be advertised.
+
+Once a receiver advertises an offset for the connection or a stream, it MAY
+advertise a smaller offset, but this has no effect.

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> @@ -792,10 +792,9 @@ is not excessive buffering at multiple layers.
 
 ## Data Flow Control {#data-flow-control}
 
-QUIC employs a credit-based flow-control scheme similar to that in HTTP/2
-{{?HTTP2}}, where a receiver advertises the number of bytes it is prepared to
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-levels of data flow control in QUIC:
+QUIC employs a limit-based flow-control scheme similar, where a receiver
+advertises the number of bytes it is prepared to receive on a given stream and

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advertises the limit of total bytes it is prepared to receive on a given stream or
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  Branch: refs/heads/master
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  Changed paths:
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  qpack: missing brackets around reference



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* http: expand "ALPN" on first use and ref RFC 7301

* Move ALPN expansion

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 Update Initial salt, Retry keys, and samples (#3711) to changelog


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The text in 2.1 is more complete, so we don&#39;t need this.

Closes #3762.
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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3769

-- Commit Summary --

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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (2)

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<p>The text in 2.1 is more complete, so we don't need this.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3762.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="638419575" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3762" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3762/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3762">#3762</a>.</p>

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I don't think that this addresses the concerns in #3733.  It's not wrong, but I believe that the need to remember the marking on sent packets is already strongly implied.

> +use the following steps on receiving an ACK frame to validate ECN. In order to
+perform these checks, the endpoint has to remember the values of each ECN Count
+from the last ACK frame to calucate the increase since the last ACK.

This seems to repeat the above.

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<p>I don't think that this addresses the concerns in <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="631545163" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3733" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3733/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3733">#3733</a>.  It's not wrong, but I believe that the need to remember the marking on sent packets is already strongly implied.</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3767#discussion_r441190542">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +use the following steps on receiving an ACK frame to validate ECN. In order to
+perform these checks, the endpoint has to remember the values of each ECN Count
+from the last ACK frame to calucate the increase since the last ACK.
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  Remove redundant requirement

The text in 2.1 is more complete, so we don't need this.

Closes #3762.


  Commit: 98d01786b3316fa65b16cff400d99fb25d88a2d5
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  Merge pull request #3769 from quicwg/remove-redundant-must

Remove redundant requirement


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> +use the following steps on receiving an ACK frame to validate ECN. In order to
+perform these checks, the endpoint has to remember the values of each ECN Count
+from the last ACK frame to calucate the increase since the last ACK.

No, this sentence is about remembering the ECN counts in the last ACK frame. The previous sentence was about remembering with marking a packet had when it was sent out.

I agree that all this was already implied and clear to me before but given #3733 I tried to make it explicit.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3767#discussion_r441381144">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +use the following steps on receiving an ACK frame to validate ECN. In order to
+perform these checks, the endpoint has to remember the values of each ECN Count
+from the last ACK frame to calucate the increase since the last ACK.
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<p>No, this sentence is about remembering the ECN counts in the last ACK frame. The previous sentence was about remembering with marking a packet had when it was sent out.</p>
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@igorlord To me the description of the problem that you stated in https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3765#issuecomment-644346096 helped me better understand what you are concerned about. Thank you for providing them.

Though I tend to wonder if we'd really want to use SPA in such case.

The rationale behind SPA is that providing a *preferred* address improves reachability. In the past, we considered two cases. The first one is when an anycast address is used as the handshake address. Then, switching to a unicast address is preferable, as it improves reachability. The second case that we considered is when a legacy load balancer that can route packets only by looking at the 4-tuple is being used. In such case, letting each backend server provide its own address as the preferred address improves reachability.

But in the scenario that you describe, I am not sure if the preferred address would provide better reachability than the original address. If that is the case, wouldn't it be sufficient to continue using the original address throughout the lifetime of the connection?

Or is your case specifically about using SPA to bypass the legacy load balancer in an environment that has reachability issues with the preferred address too? If that is the case, I can understand the concern, and I would not oppose to having a new signal, either within QUICv1 or as an extension. Though I would oppose to changing the current definition of `disable_active_migration`, as it sounds to me like a corner-case of a corner-case.

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<p>Though I tend to wonder if we'd really want to use SPA in such case.</p>
<p>The rationale behind SPA is that providing a <em>preferred</em> address improves reachability. In the past, we considered two cases. The first one is when an anycast address is used as the handshake address. Then, switching to a unicast address is preferable, as it improves reachability. The second case that we considered is when a legacy load balancer that can route packets only by looking at the 4-tuple is being used. In such case, letting each backend server provide its own address as the preferred address improves reachability.</p>
<p>But in the scenario that you describe, I am not sure if the preferred address would provide better reachability than the original address. If that is the case, wouldn't it be sufficient to continue using the original address throughout the lifetime of the connection?</p>
<p>Or is your case specifically about using SPA to bypass the legacy load balancer in an environment that has reachability issues with the preferred address too? If that is the case, I can understand the concern, and I would not oppose to having a new signal, either within QUICv1 or as an extension. Though I would oppose to changing the current definition of <code>disable_active_migration</code>, as it sounds to me like a corner-case of a corner-case.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/gorry-nits-2
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-06-17 (Wed, 17 Jun 2020)

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  Second set of editorial nits

@gorryfair had some useful feedback in #3735.

This doesn't address the following items as numbered in the issue:

(2) Because the fix to (1) seems adequate by my reckoning.  That
addresses the question of considering the impact on other network users.

(6) This doesn't appear to be a problem.  It might be a formatting
issue, with the URL not appearing.

(7) This is addressed in the recent draft by adding [Section
10.2.2](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#name-deferring-idle-timeout)

(9) and (11) I can't find the rendering glitch mentioned.

The rest of these are good.

Closes #3735.



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@gorryfair had some useful feedback in #3735.

This doesn&#39;t address the following items as numbered in the issue:

(2) Because the fix to (1) seems adequate by my reckoning.  That
addresses the question of considering the impact on other network users.

(6) This doesn&#39;t appear to be a problem.  It might be a formatting
issue, with the URL not appearing.

(7) This is addressed in the recent draft by adding [Section
10.2.2](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#name-deferring-idle-timeout)

(9) and (11) I can&#39;t find the rendering glitch mentioned.

The rest of these are good.

Closes #3735.
You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3770

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<p><a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/gorryfair/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/gorryfair">@gorryfair</a> had some useful feedback in <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="631564940" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3735" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3735/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3735">#3735</a>.</p>
<p>This doesn't address the following items as numbered in the issue:</p>
<p>(2) Because the fix to (1) seems adequate by my reckoning.  That<br>
addresses the question of considering the impact on other network users.</p>
<p>(6) This doesn't appear to be a problem.  It might be a formatting<br>
issue, with the URL not appearing.</p>
<p>(7) This is addressed in the recent draft by adding <a href="https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#name-deferring-idle-timeout" rel="nofollow">Section<br>
10.2.2</a></p>
<p>(9) and (11) I can't find the rendering glitch mentioned.</p>
<p>The rest of these are good.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3735.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="631564940" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3735" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3735/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3735">#3735</a>.</p>

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> @@ -3551,7 +3553,7 @@ too large. A receiver can discard unacknowledged ACK Ranges to limit ACK frame
 size, at the cost of increased retransmissions from the sender. This is
 necessary if an ACK frame would be too large to fit in a packet, however
 receivers MAY also limit ACK frame size further to preserve space for other
-frames.
+frames or to limit the bandwidth that acknowledgments consume.

Is /bandwidth/capacity/ ?

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3770#discussion_r441426486">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -3551,7 +3553,7 @@ too large. A receiver can discard unacknowledged ACK Ranges to limit ACK frame
 size, at the cost of increased retransmissions from the sender. This is
 necessary if an ACK frame would be too large to fit in a packet, however
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+frames or to limit the bandwidth that acknowledgments consume.
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Fine and thanks for looking to these.

I do think something more needs to be said about the need to avoid collateral impact on the forward traffic of this and other traffic sharing a path. To me this really important in an IETF Transport specification, especially one that might displace TCP.
/It can also improve connection throughput on severely asymmetric links; see Section 3 of {{?RFC3449}}./ 

To me, a note to make sure this isn't ignored would seem enough, but I'd be happy to take this up as a separate WGLC comment if that seems better.

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<p>Fine and thanks for looking to these.</p>
<p>I do think something more needs to be said about the need to avoid collateral impact on the forward traffic of this and other traffic sharing a path. To me this really important in an IETF Transport specification, especially one that might displace TCP.<br>
/It can also improve connection throughput on severely asymmetric links; see Section 3 of {{?RFC3449}}./</p>
<p>To me, a note to make sure this isn't ignored would seem enough, but I'd be happy to take this up as a separate WGLC comment if that seems better.</p>

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Thanks for the analysis, @kazuho.  The case I described could, indeed, involve a simple 4-tuple legacy load balancer in front of QUIC-supporting backends.  But it could also involve a QUIC-aware load balancer and still benefit from SPA for improved reliability and performance (removal of one more system with its failure modes and removal of some internal forwarding step within a deployment).

And then there is still another case -- using an anycast address as the handshake address and landing on a server deep inside your provider network.  You will want to use SPA to avoid a risk of anycast route change during a long-lived connection.  But you do not want the client with a secondary connection to another provider trying to migrate.

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<p>Thanks for the analysis, <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/kazuho/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/kazuho">@kazuho</a>.  The case I described could, indeed, involve a simple 4-tuple legacy load balancer in front of QUIC-supporting backends.  But it could also involve a QUIC-aware load balancer and still benefit from SPA for improved reliability and performance (removal of one more system with its failure modes and removal of some internal forwarding step within a deployment).</p>
<p>And then there is still another case -- using an anycast address as the handshake address and landing on a server deep inside your provider network.  You will want to use SPA to avoid a risk of anycast route change during a long-lived connection.  But you do not want the client with a secondary connection to another provider trying to migrate.</p>

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The function is now called `DetectAndRemoveLostPackets`, but some text still refers to `DetectLostPackets`.

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<p>The function is now called <code>DetectAndRemoveLostPackets</code>, but some text still refers to <code>DetectLostPackets</code>.</p>

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My WGLC feedback for -invariants is mostly nits, so I figured I&#39;d go straight to a PR.

There&#39;s one piece of this that *might* be non-editorial; feel free to kick to an issue if you prefer.  In one section, we say that different versions &quot;might&quot; define authentication for VN packets.  Later, we say that QUIC versions MUST define such a mechanism.  Resolving in favor of the MUST, I&#39;ve changed the other occurrence to a more definitive statement that QUIC versions do so.
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<p>My WGLC feedback for -invariants is mostly nits, so I figured I'd go straight to a PR.</p>
<p>There's one piece of this that <em>might</em> be non-editorial; feel free to kick to an issue if you prefer.  In one section, we say that different versions "might" define authentication for VN packets.  Later, we say that QUIC versions MUST define such a mechanism.  Resolving in favor of the MUST, I've changed the other occurrence to a more definitive statement that QUIC versions do so.</p>

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The larger idea is "high-level concepts, then wire encoding" which I think makes sense.  It puts the things that someone needs for a conceptual understanding of the protocol in one place, and the things that someone needs to implement the protocol elsewhere.

Within the high-level concepts, I also find it strange that connections don't come before streams.  However, the "connections" group also includes things that really don't deserve pride-of-place as the first couple things to be discussed, either.

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<p>The larger idea is "high-level concepts, then wire encoding" which I think makes sense.  It puts the things that someone needs for a conceptual understanding of the protocol in one place, and the things that someone needs to implement the protocol elsewhere.</p>
<p>Within the high-level concepts, I also find it strange that connections don't come before streams.  However, the "connections" group also includes things that really don't deserve pride-of-place as the first couple things to be discussed, either.</p>

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I started a thread on the mailing list
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And the general sense of it was that this text was insufficiently clear about the normative requirements it was creating. 

I believe this issue is editorial.

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<p>I started a thread on the mailing list<br>
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<p>And the general sense of it was that this text was insufficiently clear about the normative requirements it was creating.</p>
<p>I believe this issue is editorial.</p>

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> @@ -1749,6 +1749,16 @@ values for 0-RTT.  This includes initial_max_data and either
 initial_max_streams_bidi and initial_max_stream_data_bidi_remote, or
 initial_max_streams_uni and initial_max_stream_data_uni.
 
+When accepting 0-RTT data, a server may set values for the following parameters
+that are smaller than the values remembered by the client. Because the previous
+values set for these parameters do not affect what values can be set when
+accepting 0-RTT data, it is not necessary that the server be able to recover the
+values it previously sent.
+
+* max_idle_timeout
+* max_udp_payload_size

Thanks all for the comments on this. I reworded this paragraph choosing not to mention whether changing these values can affect 0-RTT data, and explicitly mentioned the perf impact. (I also added an RFC 2119 "OPTIONAL".)

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3756#discussion_r441887311">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1749,6 +1749,16 @@ values for 0-RTT.  This includes initial_max_data and either
 initial_max_streams_bidi and initial_max_stream_data_bidi_remote, or
 initial_max_streams_uni and initial_max_stream_data_uni.
 
+When accepting 0-RTT data, a server may set values for the following parameters
+that are smaller than the values remembered by the client. Because the previous
+values set for these parameters do not affect what values can be set when
+accepting 0-RTT data, it is not necessary that the server be able to recover the
+values it previously sent.
+
+* max_idle_timeout
+* max_udp_payload_size
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<p>Thanks all for the comments on this. I reworded this paragraph choosing not to mention whether changing these values can affect 0-RTT data, and explicitly mentioned the perf impact. (I also added an RFC 2119 "OPTIONAL".)</p>

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> And then there is still another case -- using an anycast address as the handshake address and landing on a server deep inside your provider network. You will want to use SPA to avoid a risk of anycast route change during a long-lived connection.

Could you please elaborate why it is beneficial to migrate from an anycast address to SPA in this particular case?

It is my understanding that this is about a server located in an ISP network, hosting an anycast address and a preferred address. I would assume that that server is only reachable from client within that ISP, regardless of the address being the anycast address or the preferred address.

Assuming that is the case, migrating to a preferred address does not improve the chance of *each connection* surviving across unintentional client address migrations. Regardless of if the client uses the original address or the preferred address to designate the server, the connection survives while the client stays in the ISP network. If it goes out, then the connection dies regardless of the server address being used.

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<p>And then there is still another case -- using an anycast address as the handshake address and landing on a server deep inside your provider network. You will want to use SPA to avoid a risk of anycast route change during a long-lived connection.</p>
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<p>Could you please elaborate why it is beneficial to migrate from an anycast address to SPA in this particular case?</p>
<p>It is my understanding that this is about a server located in an ISP network, hosting an anycast address and a preferred address. I would assume that that server is only reachable from client within that ISP, regardless of the address being the anycast address or the preferred address.</p>
<p>Assuming that is the case, migrating to a preferred address does not improve the chance of <em>each connection</em> surviving across unintentional client address migrations. Regardless of if the client uses the original address or the preferred address to designate the server, the connection survives while the client stays in the ISP network. If it goes out, then the connection dies regardless of the server address being used.</p>

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Fixes #3773. As some who&#39;s writing a spec for a QUIC intermediary, I hope this covers most of the ground here.
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<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3773.">Fixes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="640800325" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3773" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3773/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3773">#3773</a>. As some who's writing a spec for a QUIC intermediary, I hope this covers most of the ground here.</p>

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I think that the main concept you need is that QUIC has a connection that is shared state between two endpoints.  The later sections about connections go into more detail than you need to understand the stream sections.  But I note that we don't properly provide that basic knowledge in our introductory parts, which are quite lean.  Leanness is good, but we might have overdone it slightly in this regard.

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  Branch: refs/heads/handshake-bytes
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
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      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/17451a0ec5671fb037b471ca7fa6a840d8c01c2d
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-06-18 (Thu, 18 Jun 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  Use handshake bytes more consistently

This also adds a paragraph about buffering of CRYPTO frames that
references the buffering text in the transport doc.

Closes no issue, but there have been complaints.



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This also adds a paragraph about buffering of CRYPTO frames that
references the buffering text in the transport doc.

Closes no issue, but there have been complaints.
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  * Use handshake bytes more consistently

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    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md (42)

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<p>This also adds a paragraph about buffering of CRYPTO frames that<br>
references the buffering text in the transport doc.</p>
<p>Closes no issue, but there have been complaints.</p>

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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3775'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3775</a></p>

<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>Use handshake bytes more consistently</li>
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I agree that this is editorial, but I think that we should say something that is subtly different.

There are two parts to your PR.  One part that attempts to describe what is normative in the document.  The other part attempts to more clearly describe the intent of the document: basically that anyone who looks at QUIC from the outside can only see and use this much of the protocol.

For the "normative" piece, we can probably say something less concrete but more principled.  That is: a protocol that follows the requirements in this document may call itself QUIC.  And that any attempt to treat QUIC generically MUST be limited to using the characteristics that are included in this definition.

For the intent part, I would say that the goal is to carve out a space for endpoints to communicate without interference from others.  The goal is to design a protocol where participation by others only occurs with the express permission of endpoints.  (I think we should be careful not to say whether this is just one or both endpoints granting permission here, because QUICv1 is a little inconsistent on this point itself.)  That's somewhat stronger than the position you take.

Leaving "others" unspecified here is good.  I see that you have tried to define those others, but I don't think that's helpful.

The nice thing about this approach is that it requires far less text.  Your PR doubles the size of the draft.  

BTW, I do like the MUST regarding treatment of unknown versions.  That is, if an entity doesn't understand what is going on then it can only apply generic treatment.  But we all know that's RFC 6919 language.

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<p></p>
<p>I agree that this is editorial, but I think that we should say something that is subtly different.</p>
<p>There are two parts to your PR.  One part that attempts to describe what is normative in the document.  The other part attempts to more clearly describe the intent of the document: basically that anyone who looks at QUIC from the outside can only see and use this much of the protocol.</p>
<p>For the "normative" piece, we can probably say something less concrete but more principled.  That is: a protocol that follows the requirements in this document may call itself QUIC.  And that any attempt to treat QUIC generically MUST be limited to using the characteristics that are included in this definition.</p>
<p>For the intent part, I would say that the goal is to carve out a space for endpoints to communicate without interference from others.  The goal is to design a protocol where participation by others only occurs with the express permission of endpoints.  (I think we should be careful not to say whether this is just one or both endpoints granting permission here, because QUICv1 is a little inconsistent on this point itself.)  That's somewhat stronger than the position you take.</p>
<p>Leaving "others" unspecified here is good.  I see that you have tried to define those others, but I don't think that's helpful.</p>
<p>The nice thing about this approach is that it requires far less text.  Your PR doubles the size of the draft.</p>
<p>BTW, I do like the MUST regarding treatment of unknown versions.  That is, if an entity doesn't understand what is going on then it can only apply generic treatment.  But we all know that's RFC 6919 language.</p>

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Let's take that up separately.  I don't object to the language, but I just didn't know what to say.

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: 0bc1c93ce91c42fb3322b77b652efd7b7155b9e1
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  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-06-17 (Wed, 17 Jun 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md

  Log Message:
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  Invariant nits


  Commit: 10fccc87bb52148faf3e51598459edf0e29f95a4
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/10fccc87bb52148faf3e51598459edf0e29f95a4
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-06-18 (Thu, 18 Jun 2020)

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  Merge pull request #3772 from quicwg/invariants/mbishop_wglc

Invariant nits


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/094b795885cc...10fccc87bb52


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Merged #3772 into master.

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@martinthomson commented on this pull request.

Works for me.

> +It is OPTIONAL for a server to be able to recover the previously sent values of
+the max_idle_timout, max_udp_payload_size, and disable_active_migration
+parameters. Lowering the values of these parameters while also accepting 0-RTT

I know that OPTIONAL and RECOMMENDED are in RFC 2119, but they encourage the passive voice, .

```suggestion
A server MAY choose to recover the previously sent values of the
max_idle_timout, max_udp_payload_size, and disable_active_migration parameters
and reject 0-RTT if it selects smaller values.
Lowering the values of these parameters while also accepting 0-RTT
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  Add special handling column to frame summary

After considering this a little more it seems helpful to bring some of
the special handling rules up into the summary.  We don't really give
up-front treatment of ack-eliciting, probing, and other important
distinctions, so an extra column seemed useful.

This particular change messes up the formatting badly, so I need to
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Closes #3737.


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After considering this a little more it seems helpful to bring some of the special handling rules up into the summary.  We don&#39;t really give up-front treatment of ack-eliciting, probing, and other important distinctions, so an extra column seemed useful.

A table of this size *just* fits in the text format.

Closes #3737.
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<p>After considering this a little more it seems helpful to bring some of the special handling rules up into the summary.  We don't really give up-front treatment of ack-eliciting, probing, and other important distinctions, so an extra column seemed useful.</p>
<p>A table of this size <em>just</em> fits in the text format.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3737.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="631568343" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3737" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3737/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3737">#3737</a>.</p>

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I had in mind a large ISP spanning a continent. There can be dozens of POPs inside that ISP announcing an anycast address. A change in routing inside that network can cause a different POP being selected. You want to move off anycast address, because anycast is inherently unstable.

This is what I had in mind for the anycast case.  The other case, a desire to stop directing the flow via the load balancer and pointing the client at the server directly, is a distinct case. 

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<p>I had in mind a large ISP spanning a continent. There can be dozens of POPs inside that ISP announcing an anycast address. A change in routing inside that network can cause a different POP being selected. You want to move off anycast address, because anycast is inherently unstable.</p>
<p>This is what I had in mind for the anycast case.  The other case, a desire to stop directing the flow via the load balancer and pointing the client at the server directly, is a distinct case.</p>

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> @@ -1749,6 +1749,13 @@ values for 0-RTT.  This includes initial_max_data and either
 initial_max_streams_bidi and initial_max_stream_data_bidi_remote, or
 initial_max_streams_uni and initial_max_stream_data_uni.
 
+It is OPTIONAL for a server to be able to recover the previously sent values of
+the max_idle_timout, max_udp_payload_size, and disable_active_migration
+parameters. Lowering the values of these parameters while also accepting 0-RTT
+data could degrade the performance of the connection. Specifically, lowering the

How does lowering the `max_idle_timeout` degrade the performance of the connection (unless you lower it to a value smaller than the time it takes the client to receive the new transport parameters)?

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3756#discussion_r441944445">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1749,6 +1749,13 @@ values for 0-RTT.  This includes initial_max_data and either
 initial_max_streams_bidi and initial_max_stream_data_bidi_remote, or
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+parameters. Lowering the values of these parameters while also accepting 0-RTT
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  Make language in ECN validation clearer

This avoids "no smaller than" and other such ambiguities.

However, in doing this, I realized that I might interpret the original
language as allowing a network to ADD markings.  That seems wrong.  But
it's a non-editorial change.  This version has that change.  I'll make
another PR with the hole left in place.

Closes #3733.



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This avoids &quot;no smaller than&quot;, unqualified &quot;total increase&quot;, and other such ambiguities.

However, in doing this, I realized that I might interpret the original language as allowing a network to ADD markings.  That seems wrong.  But it&#39;s a non-editorial change.  This version has that change.  I&#39;ll make another PR with the hole left in place in case I&#39;m wrong.

Closes #3733.
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-- Commit Summary --

  * Make language in ECN validation clearer
  * Remove normative change

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (31)

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<p>This avoids "no smaller than", unqualified "total increase", and other such ambiguities.</p>
<p>However, in doing this, I realized that I might interpret the original language as allowing a network to ADD markings.  That seems wrong.  But it's a non-editorial change.  This version has that change.  I'll make another PR with the hole left in place in case I'm wrong.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3733.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="631545163" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3733" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3733/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3733">#3733</a>.</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>Make language in ECN validation clearer</li>
  <li>Remove normative change</li>
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<h4>File Changes</h4>
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    <strong>M</strong>
    <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3777/files#diff-db016291106766877c4921a79f8596e0">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>
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OK, I realize now my mistake.  The draft allows for an increase because of the possibility of ACK loss.  Counts might increase more than there are newly acknowledged packets because an endpoint might not receive an ACK for every packet that is accounted for in the increased count.  I think that's worth a note.  

Though now I'm concerned about the third clause, which doesn't include any protection against this problem.  I'll open an issue for that.

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<p>OK, I realize now my mistake.  The draft allows for an increase because of the possibility of ACK loss.  Counts might increase more than there are newly acknowledged packets because an endpoint might not receive an ACK for every packet that is accounted for in the increased count.  I think that's worth a note.</p>
<p>Though now I'm concerned about the third clause, which doesn't include any protection against this problem.  I'll open an issue for that.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/clearer-ecn-validation
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-06-18 (Thu, 18 Jun 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Don't use MUST for ECN validation

It is not an interoperability problem if the ECN counts don't match up,
it's just that ECN can't be used.  Avoid using normative language for
this, which implies non-compliance by a peer: the non-compliance is
likely somewhere in the network.



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QUIC doesn't guarantee that every received packet will be acknowledged.  At the same time, ECN validation uses counts of every received packet.  The net effect of this is captured in this statement:

> An endpoint could miss acknowledgements for a packet when ACK frames are lost. It is therefore possible for the total increase in ECT(0), ECT(1), and CE counts to be greater than the number of packets acknowledged in an ACK frame. When this happens, and if validation succeeds, the local reference counts MUST be increased to match the counts in the ACK frame.
-- https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#section-13.4.2.2-4

For example, if a sender sends 10 ECT-marked packets and all of them arrive, they might only receive acknowledgments for 8 of these.  The receiver will still report an increase of 10 for the corresponding markings.  The sender compensates for this error by allowing this deviation and using the new reference number for future packets.

Note that validation also depends on the receiver counting but not acknowledging a packet, then later changing its mind and acknowledging the packet.  We don't state this, but we shouldn't have to.

But that allowance only applies to the validation performed on the sum of ECT(0), ECT(1) and ECN-CE counts.  The validation for cross-marking of ECT(0) to ECT(1) or vice versa does not include this same protection.  Thus, failure to acknowledge a packet will probably result in ECN validation failing.

There are a few ways we might fix this.  We could just allow for an increase here too.  The net effect though is that we don't get to watch for cross-marking.  We don't get any protection against cross marking like this.  In other words, we can remove the check.

It might be better to limit the allowed increase by the total excess in the total.  That is, if `total_unaccounted = sum(ECT0+ECT1+ECN-CE) - newly_acknowledged.was_marked(ECT0 or ECT1)` then the check is `unaccounted_ect0 = sum(ECT0+ECN-CE) - newly_acknowledged.was_marked(ECT0); unaccounted_ect0 >= 0` and `unaccounted_ect1 = sum(ECT1+ECN-CE) - newly_acknowledged.was_marked(ECT1); unaccounted_ect1 >= 0`.

The combined check becomes `total_unaccounted <= unaccounted_ect0 + unaccounted_ect1 <= total_unaccounted + ECN-CE`.  That is, increases to ECT(X) + CE above what was newly acknowledged has to be represented in the total unaccounted value.   If all unaccounted packets were CE marked, then they will be unaccounted for twice in the individual counts.  If none of the unaccounted packets were CE marked, then they will be counted just once.

That suggests the following text for the third check:

> ECN validation fails if the sum of the increase in ECT(0) and ECT(1) counts, plus any increase in the ECN-CE count is less than the number of packets sent with the corresponding ECT codepoint.  This step is a more specific check for remarking to Not-ECT.

This third check is now more precise than the second check, so I would suggest removing the combined check that we have current as step 2.

A new combined check might detect remarking between ECT(0) and ECT(1):

> ECN validation fails if any unaccounted for increase in the sum of ECT(0) and ECN-CE counts, plus any unaccounted for increase in the sum of ECT(1) and ECN-CE counts, less any unaccounted for increase in the sum of the ECT(0), ECT(1), and ECN-CE counts is not between zero and the increase to the ECN-CE count.  This step might detect erroneous remarking from ECT(0) to ECT(1) (or vice versa) by the network.

And finally, because most stacks only apply one type of marking:

> An endpoint MAY also validate total counts based on the total number of packets that it sent with with a given marking.  ECN validation fails if any increase in ECT(0) or ECT(1) counts exceeds the total number of packets sent with the corresponding marking over the lifetime of the connection.  In particular, an endpoint that never uses a particular marking can fail validation when a count increases for that marking.  This step detects any erroneous network application of ECT(0) or ECT(1) markings.

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<p>QUIC doesn't guarantee that every received packet will be acknowledged.  At the same time, ECN validation uses counts of every received packet.  The net effect of this is captured in this statement:</p>
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<p>An endpoint could miss acknowledgements for a packet when ACK frames are lost. It is therefore possible for the total increase in ECT(0), ECT(1), and CE counts to be greater than the number of packets acknowledged in an ACK frame. When this happens, and if validation succeeds, the local reference counts MUST be increased to match the counts in the ACK frame.<br>
-- <a href="https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#section-13.4.2.2-4" rel="nofollow">https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#section-13.4.2.2-4</a></p>
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<p>For example, if a sender sends 10 ECT-marked packets and all of them arrive, they might only receive acknowledgments for 8 of these.  The receiver will still report an increase of 10 for the corresponding markings.  The sender compensates for this error by allowing this deviation and using the new reference number for future packets.</p>
<p>Note that validation also depends on the receiver counting but not acknowledging a packet, then later changing its mind and acknowledging the packet.  We don't state this, but we shouldn't have to.</p>
<p>But that allowance only applies to the validation performed on the sum of ECT(0), ECT(1) and ECN-CE counts.  The validation for cross-marking of ECT(0) to ECT(1) or vice versa does not include this same protection.  Thus, failure to acknowledge a packet will probably result in ECN validation failing.</p>
<p>There are a few ways we might fix this.  We could just allow for an increase here too.  The net effect though is that we don't get to watch for cross-marking.  We don't get any protection against cross marking like this.  In other words, we can remove the check.</p>
<p>It might be better to limit the allowed increase by the total excess in the total.  That is, if <code>total_unaccounted = sum(ECT0+ECT1+ECN-CE) - newly_acknowledged.was_marked(ECT0 or ECT1)</code> then the check is <code>unaccounted_ect0 = sum(ECT0+ECN-CE) - newly_acknowledged.was_marked(ECT0); unaccounted_ect0 &gt;= 0</code> and <code>unaccounted_ect1 = sum(ECT1+ECN-CE) - newly_acknowledged.was_marked(ECT1); unaccounted_ect1 &gt;= 0</code>.</p>
<p>The combined check becomes <code>total_unaccounted &lt;= unaccounted_ect0 + unaccounted_ect1 &lt;= total_unaccounted + ECN-CE</code>.  That is, increases to ECT(X) + CE above what was newly acknowledged has to be represented in the total unaccounted value.   If all unaccounted packets were CE marked, then they will be unaccounted for twice in the individual counts.  If none of the unaccounted packets were CE marked, then they will be counted just once.</p>
<p>That suggests the following text for the third check:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>ECN validation fails if the sum of the increase in ECT(0) and ECT(1) counts, plus any increase in the ECN-CE count is less than the number of packets sent with the corresponding ECT codepoint.  This step is a more specific check for remarking to Not-ECT.</p>
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<p>This third check is now more precise than the second check, so I would suggest removing the combined check that we have current as step 2.</p>
<p>A new combined check might detect remarking between ECT(0) and ECT(1):</p>
<blockquote>
<p>ECN validation fails if any unaccounted for increase in the sum of ECT(0) and ECN-CE counts, plus any unaccounted for increase in the sum of ECT(1) and ECN-CE counts, less any unaccounted for increase in the sum of the ECT(0), ECT(1), and ECN-CE counts is not between zero and the increase to the ECN-CE count.  This step might detect erroneous remarking from ECT(0) to ECT(1) (or vice versa) by the network.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>And finally, because most stacks only apply one type of marking:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>An endpoint MAY also validate total counts based on the total number of packets that it sent with with a given marking.  ECN validation fails if any increase in ECT(0) or ECT(1) counts exceeds the total number of packets sent with the corresponding marking over the lifetime of the connection.  In particular, an endpoint that never uses a particular marking can fail validation when a count increases for that marking.  This step detects any erroneous network application of ECT(0) or ECT(1) markings.</p>
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I think that this is correct.

It&#39;s a little overwrought though, so I&#39;m OK if we go with something less than this.  The new check number 3 could be removed if we were comfortable with the simplified check number 2 and the addition of the check for unused markings.

As it is so convoluted, I am looking to iterate on this.  It seems like pseudocode might be in order.

Closes #3778.
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-- Commit Summary --

  * Make language in ECN validation clearer
  * Remove normative change
  * Don&#39;t use MUST for ECN validation
  * Rework ECN validation rules

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<p>I think that this is correct.</p>
<p>It's a little overwrought though, so I'm OK if we go with something less than this.  The new check number 3 could be removed if we were comfortable with the simplified check number 2 and the addition of the check for unused markings.</p>
<p>As it is so convoluted, I am looking to iterate on this.  It seems like pseudocode might be in order.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3778.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="640952062" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3778" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3778/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3778">#3778</a>.</p>

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  <li>Make language in ECN validation clearer</li>
  <li>Remove normative change</li>
  <li>Don&#39;t use MUST for ECN validation</li>
  <li>Rework ECN validation rules</li>
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> -  packets that were sent with an ECT codepoint.  This step detects any network
-  remarking from ECT(0), ECT(1), or CE codepoints to Not-ECT.
-
-* Any increase in either ECT(0) or ECT(1) counts, plus any increase in the CE
-  count, MUST NOT exceed the number of packets sent with the corresponding ECT
-  codepoint that are newly acknowledged in this ACK frame.  This step detects
-  any erroneous network remarking from ECT(0) to ECT(1) (or vice versa).
+  either ECT(0) or ECT(1) codepoints set, ECN validation fails if ECN counts
+  are not present in the ACK frame.  This step protects against both a network
+  element that zeroes out ECN bits and a peer that is unable to access ECN
+  markings, since the peer could respond without ECN feedback in either case.
+
+* ECN validation fails if the sum of the increases to ECT(0), ECT(1), and CE
+  counts in the ACK frame are less than the number of newly acknowledged
+  packets that were sent with an ECT codepoint.  This step detects any
+  network remarking from ECT(0), ECT(1), or CE codepoints to Not-ECT.

As you use the word "erroneous" below you should also use it here, however, effectively it unknown if this is intentional or not. Most cases we observes it old boxes that still set the whole byte as ToS field. I would actually also recommend to use the term "overwriting" instead of "remarking" as that probably more indicates that, not matter why this happens, it shouldn't.

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<p><b>@mirjak</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3777#discussion_r442012667">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; -  packets that were sent with an ECT codepoint.  This step detects any network
-  remarking from ECT(0), ECT(1), or CE codepoints to Not-ECT.
-
-* Any increase in either ECT(0) or ECT(1) counts, plus any increase in the CE
-  count, MUST NOT exceed the number of packets sent with the corresponding ECT
-  codepoint that are newly acknowledged in this ACK frame.  This step detects
-  any erroneous network remarking from ECT(0) to ECT(1) (or vice versa).
+  either ECT(0) or ECT(1) codepoints set, ECN validation fails if ECN counts
+  are not present in the ACK frame.  This step protects against both a network
+  element that zeroes out ECN bits and a peer that is unable to access ECN
+  markings, since the peer could respond without ECN feedback in either case.
+
+* ECN validation fails if the sum of the increases to ECT(0), ECT(1), and CE
+  counts in the ACK frame are less than the number of newly acknowledged
+  packets that were sent with an ECT codepoint.  This step detects any
+  network remarking from ECT(0), ECT(1), or CE codepoints to Not-ECT.
</pre>
<p>As you use the word "erroneous" below you should also use it here, however, effectively it unknown if this is intentional or not. Most cases we observes it old boxes that still set the whole byte as ToS field. I would actually also recommend to use the term "overwriting" instead of "remarking" as that probably more indicates that, not matter why this happens, it shouldn't.</p>

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> +# Requirements for Intermediaries
+
+An intermediary MAY observe the QUIC version in certain packets, statefully note
+the version associated with the connection IDs (see {{connection-id}}) in the
+packet, and if it understands that version, parse and process packets with one
+of those connection IDs without regard for the invariants in this document.
+
+Intermediaries MUST implement a mode that, if they cannot associate a version
+with a packet's connection ID or do not understand the associated QUIC version,
+uses only the invariant fields described in this document to execute its
+function(s). This might mean that the intermediary cannot accomplish its
+function(s) at all, or that it implements a default behavior.
+
+Intermediaries MUST NOT implement a default behavior of dropping packets of QUIC
+versions they do not understand, or packets that have a connection ID they
+cannot associate with a QUIC version.

You probably meant that intermediaries MUST NOT drop packets of unknown or unidentified version BECAUSE of the version being unknown or unidentified. The intermediaries should be able to (and will, regardless of what we say her) drop such packets for other reasons. 

> +An intermediary MAY observe the QUIC version in certain packets, statefully note
+the version associated with the connection IDs (see {{connection-id}}) in the
+packet, and if it understands that version, parse and process packets with one
+of those connection IDs without regard for the invariants in this document.
+
+Intermediaries MUST implement a mode that, if they cannot associate a version
+with a packet's connection ID or do not understand the associated QUIC version,
+uses only the invariant fields described in this document to execute its
+function(s). This might mean that the intermediary cannot accomplish its
+function(s) at all, or that it implements a default behavior.
+
+Intermediaries MUST NOT implement a default behavior of dropping packets of QUIC
+versions they do not understand, or packets that have a connection ID they
+cannot associate with a QUIC version.
+
+Future specifications for intermediaries SHOULD document any implicit

Remove "Future". It is confusing. 

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<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3774#discussion_r442234460">draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +# Requirements for Intermediaries
+
+An intermediary MAY observe the QUIC version in certain packets, statefully note
+the version associated with the connection IDs (see {{connection-id}}) in the
+packet, and if it understands that version, parse and process packets with one
+of those connection IDs without regard for the invariants in this document.
+
+Intermediaries MUST implement a mode that, if they cannot associate a version
+with a packet&#39;s connection ID or do not understand the associated QUIC version,
+uses only the invariant fields described in this document to execute its
+function(s). This might mean that the intermediary cannot accomplish its
+function(s) at all, or that it implements a default behavior.
+
+Intermediaries MUST NOT implement a default behavior of dropping packets of QUIC
+versions they do not understand, or packets that have a connection ID they
+cannot associate with a QUIC version.
</pre>
<p>You probably meant that intermediaries MUST NOT drop packets of unknown or unidentified version BECAUSE of the version being unknown or unidentified. The intermediaries should be able to (and will, regardless of what we say her) drop such packets for other reasons.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3774#discussion_r442236447">draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +An intermediary MAY observe the QUIC version in certain packets, statefully note
+the version associated with the connection IDs (see {{connection-id}}) in the
+packet, and if it understands that version, parse and process packets with one
+of those connection IDs without regard for the invariants in this document.
+
+Intermediaries MUST implement a mode that, if they cannot associate a version
+with a packet&#39;s connection ID or do not understand the associated QUIC version,
+uses only the invariant fields described in this document to execute its
+function(s). This might mean that the intermediary cannot accomplish its
+function(s) at all, or that it implements a default behavior.
+
+Intermediaries MUST NOT implement a default behavior of dropping packets of QUIC
+versions they do not understand, or packets that have a connection ID they
+cannot associate with a QUIC version.
+
+Future specifications for intermediaries SHOULD document any implicit
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> @evolodina Can you clarify what conditions you're testing, as there are=
 are a lot of variables in flow control.=0D
=0D
@ianswett  We used simply conditions: sender is not app-limited,  we test=
ed FC for different bottleneck links e.g. 100Mbps, 1Gbps and different FC=
 Limits, RTT was between 1ms und 100ms with step 10. We do not used dynam=
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> +# Requirements for Intermediaries
+
+An intermediary MAY observe the QUIC version in certain packets, statefully note
+the version associated with the connection IDs (see {{connection-id}}) in the
+packet, and if it understands that version, parse and process packets with one
+of those connection IDs without regard for the invariants in this document.
+
+Intermediaries MUST implement a mode that, if they cannot associate a version
+with a packet's connection ID or do not understand the associated QUIC version,
+uses only the invariant fields described in this document to execute its
+function(s). This might mean that the intermediary cannot accomplish its
+function(s) at all, or that it implements a default behavior.
+
+Intermediaries MUST NOT implement a default behavior of dropping packets of QUIC
+versions they do not understand, or packets that have a connection ID they
+cannot associate with a QUIC version.

The word "default" here is doing a lot of work, and I think it's communicating what you want.

I agree that people may violate this spec, even if they read it, though ignoring this provision is going to break both address migration and whatever version ossification mitigation we end up deploying.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3774#discussion_r442339226">draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +# Requirements for Intermediaries
+
+An intermediary MAY observe the QUIC version in certain packets, statefully note
+the version associated with the connection IDs (see {{connection-id}}) in the
+packet, and if it understands that version, parse and process packets with one
+of those connection IDs without regard for the invariants in this document.
+
+Intermediaries MUST implement a mode that, if they cannot associate a version
+with a packet&#39;s connection ID or do not understand the associated QUIC version,
+uses only the invariant fields described in this document to execute its
+function(s). This might mean that the intermediary cannot accomplish its
+function(s) at all, or that it implements a default behavior.
+
+Intermediaries MUST NOT implement a default behavior of dropping packets of QUIC
+versions they do not understand, or packets that have a connection ID they
+cannot associate with a QUIC version.
</pre>
<p>The word "default" here is doing a lot of work, and I think it's communicating what you want.</p>
<p>I agree that people may violate this spec, even if they read it, though ignoring this provision is going to break both address migration and whatever version ossification mitigation we end up deploying.</p>

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@martinthomson, thanks for your thoughts.

> That is: a protocol that follows the requirements in this document may call itself QUIC.

I tried to avoid language like "The QUIC WG MUST observe these invariants in future versions of QUIC". It seemed futile to have the WG constrain its future self in this way, while requirements for intermediaries would at least be actionable.

> For the intent part, I would say that the goal is to carve out a space for endpoints to communicate without interference from others.

I will add a recommendation for explicit cooperation; this is a good idea. Though I think there are cases, like measurement, where it isn't necessary.

> Leaving "others" unspecified here is good. I see that you have tried to define those others, but I don't think that's helpful.

I think illustrative examples are helpful, but I'll revise to make it clear that the are non-exclusive examples, while leaving the exemption for proxies.

> Your PR doubles the size of the draft.

I'm not sure what to do with this comment; I think it's important that we make it crystal clear who this document is written for and what people are supposed to do with it. It's not long.

Revision is in flight.


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Currently "Sending Probe Packets" define the priority what to be in Probe packet as follows:

- A probe packet SHOULD carry new data when possible.
- A probe packet MAY carry retransmitted unacknowledged data when new data is unavailable.

And also says "Implementations MAY use alternative strategies for determining the content of probe packets, including sending new or retransmitted data based on the application's priorities."

When there is no new data, we need to choose which one to retransmit when there is a multiple data loss in the sender. Since QUIC's Probe packet approach is a combined experience of TCP TLP and RTO and I believe Probe packet is more similar to TLP. RACK draft says (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tcpm-rack-08#section-7.3) "The probe data segment can either be new, previously unsent data, or a retransmission of previously sent data just below SND.NXT" so it's pretty clear which one to send among the lost data (newest one).

Is there any reason that it's up to the implementers when it need to choose which one to send from lost data? It's better to clarify which one to send among retransmitted unacknowledged data, from oldest or newest when there is multiple data packet lost.

I think it's better to send newest (unacked) one first to follow the reasoning of TLP (new to the old), but there may be some reason why the current draft doesn't define it clearly.

https://github.com/cloudflare/quiche/pull/562#discussion_r441864077 has some background and my comment.

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<p>Currently "Sending Probe Packets" define the priority what to be in Probe packet as follows:</p>
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<li>A probe packet SHOULD carry new data when possible.</li>
<li>A probe packet MAY carry retransmitted unacknowledged data when new data is unavailable.</li>
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<p>And also says "Implementations MAY use alternative strategies for determining the content of probe packets, including sending new or retransmitted data based on the application's priorities."</p>
<p>When there is no new data, we need to choose which one to retransmit when there is a multiple data loss in the sender. Since QUIC's Probe packet approach is a combined experience of TCP TLP and RTO and I believe Probe packet is more similar to TLP. RACK draft says (<a href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tcpm-rack-08#section-7.3" rel="nofollow">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tcpm-rack-08#section-7.3</a>) "The probe data segment can either be new, previously unsent data, or a retransmission of previously sent data just below SND.NXT" so it's pretty clear which one to send among the lost data (newest one).</p>
<p>Is there any reason that it's up to the implementers when it need to choose which one to send from lost data? It's better to clarify which one to send among retransmitted unacknowledged data, from oldest or newest when there is multiple data packet lost.</p>
<p>I think it's better to send newest (unacked) one first to follow the reasoning of TLP (new to the old), but there may be some reason why the current draft doesn't define it clearly.</p>
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> +It is OPTIONAL for a server to be able to recover the previously sent values of
+the max_idle_timout, max_udp_payload_size, and disable_active_migration
+parameters. Lowering the values of these parameters while also accepting 0-RTT

I agree that active voice is better than passive voice. However, I think this suggested change changes the meaning slightly: saying the "server MAY choose to recover" refers to the server making a choice at the time it would be recovering, while "OPTIONAL for a server to be able to recover" refers to the server making a choice at the time it is storing (or otherwise encoding) parameters to be able to recover at a future point in time. I'm trying to be more clear that the option (whether active voice MAY or passive voice OPTIONAL) is when storing the transport parameters, not when recovering.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3756#discussion_r442419954">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +It is OPTIONAL for a server to be able to recover the previously sent values of
+the max_idle_timout, max_udp_payload_size, and disable_active_migration
+parameters. Lowering the values of these parameters while also accepting 0-RTT
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<p>I agree that active voice is better than passive voice. However, I think this suggested change changes the meaning slightly: saying the "server MAY choose to recover" refers to the server making a choice at the time it would be recovering, while "OPTIONAL for a server to be able to recover" refers to the server making a choice at the time it is storing (or otherwise encoding) parameters to be able to recover at a future point in time. I'm trying to be more clear that the option (whether active voice MAY or passive voice OPTIONAL) is when storing the transport parameters, not when recovering.</p>

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> @@ -1749,6 +1749,13 @@ values for 0-RTT.  This includes initial_max_data and either
 initial_max_streams_bidi and initial_max_stream_data_bidi_remote, or
 initial_max_streams_uni and initial_max_stream_data_uni.
 
+It is OPTIONAL for a server to be able to recover the previously sent values of
+the max_idle_timout, max_udp_payload_size, and disable_active_migration
+parameters. Lowering the values of these parameters while also accepting 0-RTT
+data could degrade the performance of the connection. Specifically, lowering the

Of the listed parameters, I _think_ `max_udp_payload_size` is the only one that if decreased could lead to performance degradation. I don't think the others have been analyzed as carefully, so I went for a (possibly over) broad statement.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3756#discussion_r442423323">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1749,6 +1749,13 @@ values for 0-RTT.  This includes initial_max_data and either
 initial_max_streams_bidi and initial_max_stream_data_bidi_remote, or
 initial_max_streams_uni and initial_max_stream_data_uni.
 
+It is OPTIONAL for a server to be able to recover the previously sent values of
+the max_idle_timout, max_udp_payload_size, and disable_active_migration
+parameters. Lowering the values of these parameters while also accepting 0-RTT
+data could degrade the performance of the connection. Specifically, lowering the
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<p>Of the listed parameters, I <em>think</em> <code>max_udp_payload_size</code> is the only one that if decreased could lead to performance degradation. I don't think the others have been analyzed as carefully, so I went for a (possibly over) broad statement.</p>

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@janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

Modulo the editorial nit, this LGTM.

> +It is OPTIONAL for a server to be able to recover the previously sent values of
+the max_idle_timout, max_udp_payload_size, and disable_active_migration
+parameters. Lowering the values of these parameters while also accepting 0-RTT

Change "MAY choose to recover" to "MAY store and recover". @nharper, any other way of making this active is also good.

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<p>Modulo the editorial nit, this LGTM.</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3756#discussion_r442476038">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +It is OPTIONAL for a server to be able to recover the previously sent values of
+the max_idle_timout, max_udp_payload_size, and disable_active_migration
+parameters. Lowering the values of these parameters while also accepting 0-RTT
</pre>
<p>Change "MAY choose to recover" to "MAY store and recover". <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/nharper/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/nharper">@nharper</a>, any other way of making this active is also good.</p>

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> +It is OPTIONAL for a server to be able to recover the previously sent values of
+the max_idle_timout, max_udp_payload_size, and disable_active_migration
+parameters. Lowering the values of these parameters while also accepting 0-RTT

"MAY choose to store and recover" sounds good to me.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3756#discussion_r442495120">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +It is OPTIONAL for a server to be able to recover the previously sent values of
+the max_idle_timout, max_udp_payload_size, and disable_active_migration
+parameters. Lowering the values of these parameters while also accepting 0-RTT
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e3d689f947ba0bc0a5e11db287b0038fec36e743  Use active voice and mention why the server might remember these values


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@janaiyengar approved this pull request.

A few suggestions, but LGTM.

> +An endpoint that sets ECT(0) or ECT(1) codepoints on packets records the ECN
+counts it has received in ACK frames. When processing an ACK frame, the
+endpoint MUST validate the increase in ECN counts based on the markings that
+were applied to packets that are newly acknowledged.

```suggestion
An endpoint that sets ECT(0) or ECT(1) codepoints on packets records the ECN
counts it receives in ACK frames. When processing an ACK frame, the endpoint
MUST validate any increases from previously received ECN counts, as follows:
```
... and drop the line below about ECN validation.

>  
-* For validation to succeed, the total increase in ECT(0), ECT(1), and CE counts
-  MUST be no smaller than the total number of QUIC packets sent with an ECT
-  codepoint that are newly acknowledged in this ACK frame.  This step detects
-  any network remarking from ECT(0), ECT(1), or CE codepoints to Not-ECT.
+* ECN validation fails if the sum of the increases to ECT(0), ECT(1), and CE
+  counts in the ACK frame are less than the number of newly acknowledged
+  packets that were sent with an ECT codepoint.  This step detects any
+  network remarking from ECT(0), ECT(1), or CE codepoints to Not-ECT.

```suggestion
  erroneous network overwriting from ECT(0), ECT(1), or CE codepoints to
  Not-ECT.
```

>    This step detects any erroneous network remarking from ECT(0) to ECT(1) (or
   vice versa).

```suggestion
  This step detects any erroneous network overwriting from ECT(0) to ECT(1) (or
  vice versa).
```

> +
+ECN validation involves the following checks:

```suggestion
```

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I'm not convinced this needs fixing.
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But that allowance only applies to the validation performed on the sum of ECT(0), ECT(1) and ECN-CE counts. The validation for cross-marking of ECT(0) to ECT(1) or vice versa does not include this same protection. Thus, failure to acknowledge a packet will probably result in ECN validation failing.
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It is an exceedingly rare corner case, since this requires an ACK for a packet to not be sent or received, and then for there to be cross-marking within that fraction of connections. And in this case, ECN validation fails and is turned off.

We knew corner cases existed, but we also had the escape hatch of turning off ECN when things were not "quite right". Why is that answer not good enough any more? (Or am I missing something?)

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<p>I'm not convinced this needs fixing.</p>
<pre><code>But that allowance only applies to the validation performed on the sum of ECT(0), ECT(1) and ECN-CE counts. The validation for cross-marking of ECT(0) to ECT(1) or vice versa does not include this same protection. Thus, failure to acknowledge a packet will probably result in ECN validation failing.
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<p>It is an exceedingly rare corner case, since this requires an ACK for a packet to not be sent or received, and then for there to be cross-marking within that fraction of connections. And in this case, ECN validation fails and is turned off.</p>
<p>We knew corner cases existed, but we also had the escape hatch of turning off ECN when things were not "quite right". Why is that answer not good enough any more? (Or am I missing something?)</p>

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I understand that this is trying to be more correct, but I'm not convinced that it's necessary - in text or in implementation - to be even more careful to weed out super rare cases.

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<p>I understand that this is trying to be more correct, but I'm not convinced that it's necessary - in text or in implementation - to be even more careful to weed out super rare cases.</p>

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I understand that this is trying to be more correct, but I'm not convinced that it's necessary - in text or in implementation - to be even more careful to weed out super rare cases.

The clarification in #3777 is adequate, IMO.



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<p>I understand that this is trying to be more correct, but I'm not convinced that it's necessary - in text or in implementation - to be even more careful to weed out super rare cases.</p>
<p>The clarification in <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="640926018" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3777" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3777/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3777">#3777</a> is adequate, IMO.</p>

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I like this a lot! I know there are just one frame type for C and F, but I have an editorial suggestion that just makes it more uniform and easier to read IMO.

> +: Packets containing only ACK frames do not count toward bytes in flight for
+  congestion control purposes; see {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.

```suggestion
: Packets containing only frames with this marking do not count toward bytes
  in flight for congestion control purposes; see {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.
```

> +characters:
+
+N:
+: Packets containing only frames with this marking are not ack-eliciting; see
+  {{generating-acks}}.
+
+C:
+: Packets containing only ACK frames do not count toward bytes in flight for
+  congestion control purposes; see {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.
+
+P:
+: Packets containing only frames with this marking can be used to probe new
+  network paths during connection migration; see {{probing}}.
+
+F:
+: The content of the STREAM frame are flow controlled; see {{flow-control}}.

```suggestion
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@janaiyengar approved this pull request.

Let's get these in and deal with more specific issues separately.

> @@ -3463,9 +3464,10 @@ the IP header SHOULD be acknowledged immediately, to reduce the peer's response
 time to congestion events.
 
 The algorithms in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}} are expected to be resilient to receivers
-that do not follow guidance offered above. However, an implementer should only
+that do not follow guidance offered above. However, an endpoint should only

```suggestion
that do not follow guidance offered above. However, an implementation should only
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>  necessary if an ACK frame would be too large to fit in a packet, however
 receivers MAY also limit ACK frame size further to preserve space for other

```suggestion
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> @@ -1749,12 +1749,13 @@ values for 0-RTT.  This includes initial_max_data and either
 initial_max_streams_bidi and initial_max_stream_data_bidi_remote, or
 initial_max_streams_uni and initial_max_stream_data_uni.
 
-It is OPTIONAL for a server to be able to recover the previously sent values of
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+A server MAY choose to store and recover the previously sent values of the

```suggestion
A server MAY store and recover the previously sent values of the
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> +max_idle_timout, max_udp_payload_size, and disable_active_migration parameters
+and reject 0-RTT if it selects smaller values. Lowering the values of these

This new phrase "reject 0-RTT if it selects smaller values" is confusing. What are you trying to convey?

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> +max_idle_timout, max_udp_payload_size, and disable_active_migration parameters
+and reject 0-RTT if it selects smaller values. Lowering the values of these

That was from MT's suggestion. It's saying how the server might use the remembered values. It might be redundant with the following sentence - I don't care either way whether it's here.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3756#discussion_r442535951">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +max_idle_timout, max_udp_payload_size, and disable_active_migration parameters
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<p>That was from MT's suggestion. It's saying how the server might use the remembered values. It might be redundant with the following sentence - I don't care either way whether it's here.</p>

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The problem is that we fixed this in one place, but not another.  And we explicitly call out the need for the fix.

The goal of validation was - by my understanding - finding obvious mistakes.  But this creates false positives.

If we want to do something minimal, then I would suggest that we simplify.  That is, reduce the checks to `incr_count[ECT0] + incr_count[CE] < marked[ECT0]` or `incr_count[ECT1] + incr_count[CE] < marked[ECT1]`.

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<p>The problem is that we fixed this in one place, but not another.  And we explicitly call out the need for the fix.</p>
<p>The goal of validation was - by my understanding - finding obvious mistakes.  But this creates false positives.</p>
<p>If we want to do something minimal, then I would suggest that we simplify.  That is, reduce the checks to <code>incr_count[ECT0] + incr_count[CE] &lt; marked[ECT0]</code> or <code>incr_count[ECT1] + incr_count[CE] &lt; marked[ECT1]</code>.</p>

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  Changed paths:
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  Branch: refs/heads/gorry-nits-2
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  Branch: refs/heads/master
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  Second set of editorial nits

@gorryfair had some useful feedback in #3735.

This doesn't address the following items as numbered in the issue:

(2) Because the fix to (1) seems adequate by my reckoning.  That
addresses the question of considering the impact on other network users.

(6) This doesn't appear to be a problem.  It might be a formatting
issue, with the URL not appearing.

(7) This is addressed in the recent draft by adding [Section
10.2.2](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#name-deferring-idle-timeout)

(9) and (11) I can't find the rendering glitch mentioned.

The rest of these are good.

Closes #3735.


  Commit: 8f453ff92b9ba3439c654c5b2681c3ddc7d5a399
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Co-authored-by: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>


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  Merge pull request #3770 from quicwg/gorry-nits-2

Second set of editorial nits


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Merged #3770 into master.

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Closed #3735 via #3770.

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I had almost exactly those changes in a previous version.  It was a near thing.

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<p>I had almost exactly those changes in a previous version.  It was a near thing.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/frame-special-rules
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> +: Packets containing only frames with this marking are not ack-eliciting; see
+  {{generating-acks}}.
+
+C:
+: Packets containing only frames with this marking do not count toward bytes
+  in flight for congestion control purposes; see {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.
+
+P:
+: Packets containing only frames with this marking can be used to probe new
+  network paths during connection migration; see {{probing}}.
+
+F:
+: The content of frames with this marking are flow controlled; see
+  {{flow-control}}.
+
+The "Pkts" and "Spec" columns in  {{frame-types}} does not form part of the IANA

```suggestion
The "Pkts" and "Spec" columns in  {{frame-types}} do not form part of the IANA
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That's how I read the third validation check:
```
  Any increase in either ECT(0) or ECT(1) counts, plus any increase in the CE
  count, MUST be no smaller than the number of packets sent with the
  corresponding ECT codepoint that are newly acknowledged in this ACK frame.
  This step detects any erroneous network remarking from ECT(0) to ECT(1) (or
  vice versa).
```

but I agree it's not very clear. I _think_ the intent was to do the minimal version you suggest above (which is why it's "either" instead of "both" in the text). I would be happy with us clarifying  the text to say that more clearly. 

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<p>That's how I read the third validation check:</p>
<pre><code>  Any increase in either ECT(0) or ECT(1) counts, plus any increase in the CE
  count, MUST be no smaller than the number of packets sent with the
  corresponding ECT codepoint that are newly acknowledged in this ACK frame.
  This step detects any erroneous network remarking from ECT(0) to ECT(1) (or
  vice versa).
</code></pre>
<p>but I agree it's not very clear. I <em>think</em> the intent was to do the minimal version you suggest above (which is why it's "either" instead of "both" in the text). I would be happy with us clarifying  the text to say that more clearly.</p>

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  Date:   2020-06-18 (Thu, 18 Jun 2020)

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  Add special handling column to frame summary

After considering this a little more it seems helpful to bring some of
the special handling rules up into the summary.  We don't really give
up-front treatment of ack-eliciting, probing, and other important
distinctions, so an extra column seemed useful.

This particular change messes up the formatting badly, so I need to
tweak some things.

Closes #3737.


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  Condense the table to fit


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  More truncation of column names


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  Keep definitions generic

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  Merge pull request #3776 from quicwg/frame-special-rules

Frame special rules


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Closed #3737 via #3776.

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Yeah, this is too much.  But more work is needed for #3777.  Moving the effort over there.

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  Branch: refs/heads/clearer-ecn-validation
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: 49507b4c9e38c201919a7241d70cc45b2f962fe0
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/49507b4c9e38c201919a7241d70cc45b2f962fe0
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-06-18 (Thu, 18 Jun 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Rework ECN validation rules

This attempts to create rules that won't break down unnecessarily.  It's
a little overwrought though, so I'm OK if we go with something less than
this.  The new check number 3 could be removed if we were comfortable
with the simplified check number 2 and the addition of the check for
unused markings.

Closes #3778.


  Commit: b760aa929a353f76cddf6e0fc0ff6c417d66d703
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-06-19 (Fri, 19 Jun 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Remove the complicated check, simplify


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Sorry to ask for another review, but I had a few misfires yesterday (apparently).  I think that this structure is much better.

I have removed the check that uses the sum of ECT0+ECT1+CE.  Any check on ECT0+CE or ECT1+CE is more precise anyway.  The sum is only able to detect double-counting of CE-marked packets, but as the check is an inequality, we would allow what to happen.  (That was what motivated my proposed additional check, but I agree that is not worth documenting.)

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<p>Sorry to ask for another review, but I had a few misfires yesterday (apparently).  I think that this structure is much better.</p>
<p>I have removed the check that uses the sum of ECT0+ECT1+CE.  Any check on ECT0+CE or ECT1+CE is more precise anyway.  The sum is only able to detect double-counting of CE-marked packets, but as the check is an inequality, we would allow what to happen.  (That was what motivated my proposed additional check, but I agree that is not worth documenting.)</p>

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@janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

Thank you for patiently working through this! This is complicated, so I totally get that it needs doing a few times over.

> -the largest packet number acknowledged in this connection.
+Erroneous application of markings in the network can result in ECN marking
+providing bad information.  Before using ECN counts, an endpoint validates the
+ECN counts by comparing the counts in each ACK frame it processes against the
+last ACK frame that was successfully processed.  The increase in ECN counts is
+validated based on the markings that were applied to packets that are newly
+acknowledged in the ACK frame.
+
+If an ACK frame newly acknowledges a packet that the endpoint sent with either
+ECT(0) or ECT(1) codepoints set, ECN validation fails if ECN counts are not
+present in the ACK frame.  This check detects a network element that zeroes out
+ECN bits or a peer that is unable to access ECN markings.
+
+ECN validation fails if the sum of the increase in ECT(0) and ECN-CE counts is
+less than the number of newly acknowledged packets that were originally sent
+with an ECT(0) marking.  Similarly, if the sum of the increases to ECT(1) and

"Similarly, ECN validation fails if ..."

>  
 An endpoint could miss acknowledgements for a packet when ACK frames are lost.
-It is therefore possible for the total increase in ECT(0), ECT(1), and CE counts
-to be greater than the number of packets acknowledged in an ACK frame.  When
-this happens, and if validation succeeds, the local reference counts MUST be
-increased to match the counts in the ACK frame.
+It is therefore possible for the total increase in ECT(0), ECT(1), and ECN-CE
+counts to be greater than the number of packets acknowledged in an ACK frame.
+This is why counts are permitted to be larger than might be accounted for by
+newly acknowledged packets.

```suggestion
newly acknowledged packets. When this happens, and if validation succeeds, the
local reference counts MUST be increased to match the counts in the ACK frame.
```

We still want this bit, right? Ah, I guess we don't need this because the validation is against the counts from the last processed ACK frame. That works for me. Does this make this a design change?

> -to be greater than the number of packets acknowledged in an ACK frame.  When
-this happens, and if validation succeeds, the local reference counts MUST be
-increased to match the counts in the ACK frame.
+It is therefore possible for the total increase in ECT(0), ECT(1), and ECN-CE
+counts to be greater than the number of packets acknowledged in an ACK frame.
+This is why counts are permitted to be larger than might be accounted for by
+newly acknowledged packets.
+
+ECN validation MAY fail if the total count for an ECT(0) or ECT(1) marking
+exceeds the total number of packets sent with the corresponding marking.   In
+particular, an endpoint that never applies a particular marking can fail
+validation when a non-zero count for the corresponding marking is received.
+This check can detect when packets are marked ECT(0) or ECT(1) in the network.
+
+Processing ECN counts out of order can result in validation failure.  An
+endpoint SHOULD skip ECN validation when an ACK frame does not increase the

```suggestion
endpoint SHOULD skip ECN validation on an ACK frame that does not increase the
```

> +Erroneous application of markings in the network can result in ECN marking
+providing bad information.  Before using ECN counts, an endpoint validates the
+ECN counts by comparing the counts in each ACK frame it processes against the
+last ACK frame that was successfully processed.  The increase in ECN counts is
+validated based on the markings that were applied to packets that are newly
+acknowledged in the ACK frame.

```suggestion
Erroneous application of ECN marks in the network can result in degraded
connection performance.  An endpoint that receives an ACK frame with ECN
counts therefore validates the counts before using them. An endpoint validates
these counts by comparing newly received ones against those from the last
successfully processed ACK frame. Any increase in ECN counts is validated
based on the markings that were applied to packets that are newly
acknowledged in the ACK frame.
```

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That is super helpful, and is the direction I was hoping for!

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<p>That is super helpful, and is the direction I was hoping for!</p>

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>  
 An endpoint could miss acknowledgements for a packet when ACK frames are lost.
-It is therefore possible for the total increase in ECT(0), ECT(1), and CE counts
-to be greater than the number of packets acknowledged in an ACK frame.  When
-this happens, and if validation succeeds, the local reference counts MUST be
-increased to match the counts in the ACK frame.
+It is therefore possible for the total increase in ECT(0), ECT(1), and ECN-CE
+counts to be greater than the number of packets acknowledged in an ACK frame.
+This is why counts are permitted to be larger than might be accounted for by
+newly acknowledged packets.

Yep.  We never really said what value you save, but implied that you took the value from the last ACK.  This simplifies and says "last ACK".  I think that's non-design.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3777#discussion_r442770230">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  
 An endpoint could miss acknowledgements for a packet when ACK frames are lost.
-It is therefore possible for the total increase in ECT(0), ECT(1), and CE counts
-to be greater than the number of packets acknowledged in an ACK frame.  When
-this happens, and if validation succeeds, the local reference counts MUST be
-increased to match the counts in the ACK frame.
+It is therefore possible for the total increase in ECT(0), ECT(1), and ECN-CE
+counts to be greater than the number of packets acknowledged in an ACK frame.
+This is why counts are permitted to be larger than might be accounted for by
+newly acknowledged packets.
</pre>
<p>Yep.  We never really said what value you save, but implied that you took the value from the last ACK.  This simplifies and says "last ACK".  I think that's non-design.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/clearer-ecn-validation
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      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/56370b0f6111a90f61a6800bafea05515bf65f45
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-06-19 (Fri, 19 Jun 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Small improvements

Co-authored-by: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>



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> +  plus any increase in the ECN-CE count is less than the number of packets sent
+  with the corresponding ECT codepoint. This check can detect removal of ECN
+  markings.
+
+* ECN validation fails if any unaccounted for increase in the sum of ECT(0) and
+  ECN-CE counts, plus any unaccounted for increase in the sum of ECT(1) and
+  ECN-CE counts, less any unaccounted for increase in the sum of the ECT(0),
+  ECT(1), and ECN-CE counts is not between zero and the overall increase to the
+  ECN-CE count from this ACK frame.  An unaccounted for increase is determined
+  by subtracting the number of newly acknowledged packets that were originally
+  sent with the corresponding mark from the increase in counts reported in the
+  ACK frame.  This check can detect erroneous changes between ECT(0) and
+  ECT(1) markings in the network.
+
+An endpoint MAY also validate total counts based on the total number of packets
+that it sent with with a given marking.  In that case, ECN validation can also

```suggestion
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> +  markings.
+
+* ECN validation fails if any unaccounted for increase in the sum of ECT(0) and
+  ECN-CE counts, plus any unaccounted for increase in the sum of ECT(1) and
+  ECN-CE counts, less any unaccounted for increase in the sum of the ECT(0),
+  ECT(1), and ECN-CE counts is not between zero and the overall increase to the
+  ECN-CE count from this ACK frame.  An unaccounted for increase is determined
+  by subtracting the number of newly acknowledged packets that were originally
+  sent with the corresponding mark from the increase in counts reported in the
+  ACK frame.  This check can detect erroneous changes between ECT(0) and
+  ECT(1) markings in the network.
+
+An endpoint MAY also validate total counts based on the total number of packets
+that it sent with with a given marking.  In that case, ECN validation can also
+be performed based on total counts rather than increases.  As a special case,
+an endpoint that never applies a particular marking can fail validation when a

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  Author: martinduke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-06-19 (Fri, 19 Jun 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-load-balancers.md

  Log Message:
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  Update original_connection_id TP name

Keeping current with quic-transport.



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Over on https://github.com/cloudflare/quiche/issues/565 we had a discussion about whether a MAX_STREAMS frame with value exceeding 2^60 generates a FRAME_ENCODING or a STREAM_LIMIT error.

Draft 29 Section 19.11 says:

> Maximum Streams: A count of the cumulative number of streams of the
corresponding type that can be opened over the lifetime of the
connection. This value cannot exceed 2^60, as it is not possible
to encode stream IDs larger than 2^62-1. Receipt of a frame that
permits opening of a stream larger than this limit MUST be treated
as a FRAME_ENCODING_ERROR.

but as @goelvidhi points out, Section 4.5 says 

> If a max_streams transport parameter or MAX_STREAMS frame is received
with a value greater than 2^60, this would allow a maximum stream ID
that cannot be expressed as a variable-length integer; see
Section 16. If either is received, the connection MUST be closed
immediately with a connection error of type STREAM_LIMIT_ERROR

Meanwhile, for the STREAMS_BLOCKED frame in Section 19.15 we have:

> Receipt of a frame that encodes a larger stream ID MUST be treated as a STREAM_LIMIT_ERROR or a FRAME_ENCODING_ERROR.

I suspect both Vidhi and I are correct, bogus MAX_STREAMS can be treated as either STREAM_LIMIT or FRAME_ENCODING. If so, its probably a minor editorial fix to state either/or in both the sections.

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<p>Over on <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="639337832" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/cloudflare/quiche/issues/565" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/cloudflare/quiche/issues/565/hovercard" href="https://github.com/cloudflare/quiche/issues/565">cloudflare/quiche#565</a> we had a discussion about whether a MAX_STREAMS frame with value exceeding 2^60 generates a FRAME_ENCODING or a STREAM_LIMIT error.</p>
<p>Draft 29 Section 19.11 says:</p>
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<p>Maximum Streams: A count of the cumulative number of streams of the<br>
corresponding type that can be opened over the lifetime of the<br>
connection. This value cannot exceed 2^60, as it is not possible<br>
to encode stream IDs larger than 2^62-1. Receipt of a frame that<br>
permits opening of a stream larger than this limit MUST be treated<br>
as a FRAME_ENCODING_ERROR.</p>
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<p>but as <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/goelvidhi/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/goelvidhi">@goelvidhi</a> points out, Section 4.5 says</p>
<blockquote>
<p>If a max_streams transport parameter or MAX_STREAMS frame is received<br>
with a value greater than 2^60, this would allow a maximum stream ID<br>
that cannot be expressed as a variable-length integer; see<br>
Section 16. If either is received, the connection MUST be closed<br>
immediately with a connection error of type STREAM_LIMIT_ERROR</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Meanwhile, for the STREAMS_BLOCKED frame in Section 19.15 we have:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Receipt of a frame that encodes a larger stream ID MUST be treated as a STREAM_LIMIT_ERROR or a FRAME_ENCODING_ERROR.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I suspect both Vidhi and I are correct, bogus MAX_STREAMS can be treated as either STREAM_LIMIT or FRAME_ENCODING. If so, its probably a minor editorial fix to state either/or in both the sections.</p>

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A lot of the reasoning behind TLP comes from TCP counting bytes and not counting packets. In TCP, new data means a new sequence number, thus a higher chance to trigger ACKs or SACKS. But for Quic, any new packet will have a new sequence number, so from a transport engine point of view it does not matter very much what data is in that packet. Logically it should be the most urgent data among all the available streams. So first pick the most urgent stream with something to send; if that something is old data presumed lost, send it; if there is no data presumed lost, and there is new data available, send that.

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<p>A lot of the reasoning behind TLP comes from TCP counting bytes and not counting packets. In TCP, new data means a new sequence number, thus a higher chance to trigger ACKs or SACKS. But for Quic, any new packet will have a new sequence number, so from a transport engine point of view it does not matter very much what data is in that packet. Logically it should be the most urgent data among all the available streams. So first pick the most urgent stream with something to send; if that something is old data presumed lost, send it; if there is no data presumed lost, and there is new data available, send that.</p>

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> Logically it should be the most urgent data among all the available streams.

I think this is the right answer but need some clarification on the draft text.

I think there is 2 different approach for the content of Probe packet depending on the role of Probe packet: 1) if the tail loss is most concerning (what's what I understand from TLP) then we would send a new data if available, or newest lost to move the right edge and update ACK ranges. 2) If HoL is most concerning then we would send oldest lost data (or highest priority data) to move the left edge (but it may be delivered already, because we may lost some acks)

However the draft says we always try to send a new data first regardless of lost data, so I assume 1). But if the priority is simply on the urgent data, we don't need to send a new data first.


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<p>I think this is the right answer but need some clarification on the draft text.</p>
<p>I think there is 2 different approach for the content of Probe packet depending on the role of Probe packet: 1) if the tail loss is most concerning (what's what I understand from TLP) then we would send a new data if available, or newest lost to move the right edge and update ACK ranges. 2) If HoL is most concerning then we would send oldest lost data (or highest priority data) to move the left edge (but it may be delivered already, because we may lost some acks)</p>
<p>However the draft says we always try to send a new data first regardless of lost data, so I assume 1). But if the priority is simply on the urgent data, we don't need to send a new data first.</p>

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@kazuho, you're correct that the session would not survive handover regardless.  At that point, it's about the performance improvement of telling the client that it's better to spin up a new connection instead of making any attempt to migrate.  If you lose your network address, the connection is dead; recover as quickly as you can.

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> +# Requirements for Intermediaries
+
+An intermediary MAY observe the QUIC version in certain packets, statefully note
+the version associated with the connection IDs (see {{connection-id}}) in the
+packet, and if it understands that version, parse and process packets with one
+of those connection IDs without regard for the invariants in this document.
+
+Intermediaries MUST implement a mode that, if they cannot associate a version
+with a packet's connection ID or do not understand the associated QUIC version,
+uses only the invariant fields described in this document to execute its
+function(s). This might mean that the intermediary cannot accomplish its
+function(s) at all, or that it implements a default behavior.
+
+Intermediaries MUST NOT implement a default behavior of dropping packets of QUIC
+versions they do not understand, or packets that have a connection ID they
+cannot associate with a QUIC version.

Perhaps "MUST NOT drop packets on the basis of..." would be avoid the wiggles of "default"?

> +packet, and if it understands that version, parse and process packets with one
+of those connection IDs without regard for the invariants in this document.
+
+Intermediaries MUST implement a mode that, if they cannot associate a version
+with a packet's connection ID or do not understand the associated QUIC version,
+uses only the invariant fields described in this document to execute its
+function(s). This might mean that the intermediary cannot accomplish its
+function(s) at all, or that it implements a default behavior.
+
+Intermediaries MUST NOT implement a default behavior of dropping packets of QUIC
+versions they do not understand, or packets that have a connection ID they
+cannot associate with a QUIC version.
+
+Specifications for intermediaries SHOULD document any implicit assumptions they
+are making about endpoint behavior beyond the invariants in this document, and
+the impact if future versions of QUIC violate those assumptions.

```suggestion
the impact if future versions of QUIC do not conform to those assumptions.
```
"Violate" has a negative connotation, and behavior changes aren't something we want to discourage.

> @@ -234,7 +281,7 @@ and is not constrained by this specification.
 The remainder of the packet has version-specific semantics.
 
 
-## Connection ID
+## Connection ID {#connection-id}

Nothing wrong with doing this, but it's pointless since this would be the default anchor generated for this section title anyway.

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@martinduke pushed 2 commits.

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<p><a href="https://github.com/martinduke" class="user-mention">@martinduke</a> pushed 2 commits.</p>

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> +packet, and if it understands that version, parse and process packets with one
+of those connection IDs without regard for the invariants in this document.
+
+Intermediaries MUST implement a mode that, if they cannot associate a version
+with a packet's connection ID or do not understand the associated QUIC version,
+uses only the invariant fields described in this document to execute its
+function(s). This might mean that the intermediary cannot accomplish its
+function(s) at all, or that it implements a default behavior.
+
+Intermediaries MUST NOT implement a default behavior of dropping packets of QUIC
+versions they do not understand, or packets that have a connection ID they
+cannot associate with a QUIC version.
+
+Specifications for intermediaries SHOULD document any implicit assumptions they
+are making about endpoint behavior beyond the invariants in this document, and
+the impact if future versions of QUIC violate those assumptions.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3774#discussion_r443915185">draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +packet, and if it understands that version, parse and process packets with one
+of those connection IDs without regard for the invariants in this document.
+
+Intermediaries MUST implement a mode that, if they cannot associate a version
+with a packet&#39;s connection ID or do not understand the associated QUIC version,
+uses only the invariant fields described in this document to execute its
+function(s). This might mean that the intermediary cannot accomplish its
+function(s) at all, or that it implements a default behavior.
+
+Intermediaries MUST NOT implement a default behavior of dropping packets of QUIC
+versions they do not understand, or packets that have a connection ID they
+cannot associate with a QUIC version.
+
+Specifications for intermediaries SHOULD document any implicit assumptions they
+are making about endpoint behavior beyond the invariants in this document, and
+the impact if future versions of QUIC violate those assumptions.
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<p>Or "deviate from", depending on your taste.</p>

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This is a great question and I incline towards sending the newest (tail) unacknowledged data first (same as TLP in TCP). Lets say we sent packets 1,2,3,4 & 5 at the same time and assume 1 & 5 were lost. Now, PTO fires.

1. Lets say, on PTO expiry, we retransmit the oldest packet i.e. 1. When the PTO timer fires a second time, only then we would send pn=5.
2. OTOH, if we retransmit the tail first, i.e. pn=5, it provides faster recovery, because an arriving ACK with largest pn=4 will mark pn=1 as lost and we will retransmit that immediately.

The unacknowledged packets at the head have the advantage of subsequent packets allowing them to recover via ACKs marking them as lost. Not so much for the tail packets.



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<p>This is a great question and I incline towards sending the newest (tail) unacknowledged data first (same as TLP in TCP). Lets say we sent packets 1,2,3,4 &amp; 5 at the same time and assume 1 &amp; 5 were lost. Now, PTO fires.</p>
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<li>Lets say, on PTO expiry, we retransmit the oldest packet i.e. 1. When the PTO timer fires a second time, only then we would send pn=5.</li>
<li>OTOH, if we retransmit the tail first, i.e. pn=5, it provides faster recovery, because an arriving ACK with largest pn=4 will mark pn=1 as lost and we will retransmit that immediately.</li>
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<p>The unacknowledged packets at the head have the advantage of subsequent packets allowing them to recover via ACKs marking them as lost. Not so much for the tail packets.</p>

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> 1. Lets say, on PTO expiry, we retransmit the oldest packet i.e. 1. When the PTO timer fires a second time, only then we would send pn=5.
> 2. OTOH, if we retransmit the tail first, i.e. pn=5, it provides faster recovery, because an arriving ACK with largest pn=4 will mark pn=1 as lost and we will retransmit that immediately.

@goelvidhi I'm not sure I understand the argument here. Why would the content of the retransmission matter for declaring packets lost?

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<li>Lets say, on PTO expiry, we retransmit the oldest packet i.e. 1. When the PTO timer fires a second time, only then we would send pn=5.</li>
<li>OTOH, if we retransmit the tail first, i.e. pn=5, it provides faster recovery, because an arriving ACK with largest pn=4 will mark pn=1 as lost and we will retransmit that immediately.</li>
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We declare packets lost when 

> A packet is declared lost if it meets all the following conditions:

> The packet is unacknowledged, in-flight, and was sent prior to an acknowledged packet.
> Either its packet number is kPacketThreshold smaller than an acknowledged packet (Section  6.1.1), or it was sent long enough in the past (Section 6.1.2).

So, a tail packet (with no packets after it) wouldn't be marked lost until after some earlier packets were retransmitted.

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Either its packet number is kPacketThreshold smaller than an acknowledged packet (Section  6.1.1), or it was sent long enough in the past (Section 6.1.2).</p>
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<p>So, a tail packet (with no packets after it) wouldn't be marked lost until after some earlier packets were retransmitted.</p>

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I don't understand why people think that it is important to standardize this.  Do we have research that points more clearly to one choice being better than another?

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<p>I don't understand why people think that it is important to standardize this.  Do we have research that points more clearly to one choice being better than another?</p>

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> So, a tail packet (with no packets after it) wouldn't be marked lost until after some earlier packets were retransmitted.

That's correct, but a retransmission always has a higher packet number than earlier sent packets, so the contents of the packet don't matter, right? Or am I misunderstanding your argument?

> I don't understand why people think that it is important to standardize this. Do we have research that points more clearly to one choice being better than another?

I agree with @martinthomson. We already have some advice about retransmitting packets in section 13.3:
> Endpoints SHOULD prioritize retransmission of data over sending new data, unless priorities specified by the application indicate otherwise; see Section 2.3.

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<p>So, a tail packet (with no packets after it) wouldn't be marked lost until after some earlier packets were retransmitted.</p>
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<p>That's correct, but a retransmission always has a higher packet number than earlier sent packets, so the contents of the packet don't matter, right? Or am I misunderstanding your argument?</p>
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<p>I don't understand why people think that it is important to standardize this. Do we have research that points more clearly to one choice being better than another?</p>
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<p>I agree with <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/martinthomson/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/martinthomson">@martinthomson</a>. We already have some advice about retransmitting packets in section 13.3:</p>
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> That's correct, but a retransmission always has a higher packet number than earlier sent packets, so the contents of the packet don't matter, right?

This seems right to me; we're retransmitting frames, not packets.

> Do we have research that points more clearly to one choice being better than another?

If folks get a chance to experiment with this and publish their results, that would be super cool!

But it seems like that's somewhat orthogonal to getting this spec finished, since so far we've settled with "doing the default thing should get you functional QUIC". 

It seems like all options here work well enough that we don't need further text unless either we have some data or we have a principle of why one option is deterministically better?

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<p>That's correct, but a retransmission always has a higher packet number than earlier sent packets, so the contents of the packet don't matter, right?</p>
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<p>This seems right to me; we're retransmitting frames, not packets.</p>
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<p>If folks get a chance to experiment with this and publish their results, that would be super cool!</p>
<p>But it seems like that's somewhat orthogonal to getting this spec finished, since so far we've settled with "doing the default thing should get you functional QUIC".</p>
<p>It seems like all options here work well enough that we don't need further text unless either we have some data or we have a principle of why one option is deterministically better?</p>

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> So, a tail packet (with no packets after it) wouldn't be marked lost until after some earlier packets were retransmitted.
> That's correct, but a retransmission always has a higher packet number than earlier sent packets, so the contents of the packet don't matter, right? Or am I misunderstanding your argument?

I am not saying that the contents matter. What I am saying is if we send a PTO probe for the tail packet, we would recover faster as it doesn't have to wait for the retransmissions for earlier packets (1 as 6). With this approach we would be able to retransmit both tail (via PTO) and head (via ACK for pn 4) faster than the other approach.

That being said, I am neutral towards making any change to the draft and leaving it to implementors is a fine option.

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<p>So, a tail packet (with no packets after it) wouldn't be marked lost until after some earlier packets were retransmitted.<br>
That's correct, but a retransmission always has a higher packet number than earlier sent packets, so the contents of the packet don't matter, right? Or am I misunderstanding your argument?</p>
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<p>I am not saying that the contents matter. What I am saying is if we send a PTO probe for the tail packet, we would recover faster as it doesn't have to wait for the retransmissions for earlier packets (1 as 6). With this approach we would be able to retransmit both tail (via PTO) and head (via ACK for pn 4) faster than the other approach.</p>
<p>That being said, I am neutral towards making any change to the draft and leaving it to implementors is a fine option.</p>

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I also think that we do not need to standardize this.

If I understand correctly, we do not define how data should be sent initially. I think the only point we make is that _a QUIC implementation SHOULD provide ways in which an application can indicate the relative priority of streams_ (https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#section-2.3). I do not think that here is a baked-in assumption that the receiving application would be reading the stream from the beginning.

Assuming that my understanding is correct (it could be wrong), I do not think we need to talk any more about what should be done to transmit data the second time.

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<p>I also think that we do not need to standardize this.</p>
<p>If I understand correctly, we do not define how data should be sent initially. I think the only point we make is that <em>a QUIC implementation SHOULD provide ways in which an application can indicate the relative priority of streams</em> (<a href="https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#section-2.3" rel="nofollow">https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#section-2.3</a>). I do not think that here is a baked-in assumption that the receiving application would be reading the stream from the beginning.</p>
<p>Assuming that my understanding is correct (it could be wrong), I do not think we need to talk any more about what should be done to transmit data the second time.</p>

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When a `RESET_STREAM` is received, it carries a `final size` field. The specs do not describe the behaviour if the final size exceeds per-stream or connection-wide flow-control limits: should a `FLOW_CONTROL_ERROR` be triggered or a `FINAL_SIZE_ERROR`?

My preference would be `FLOW_CONTROL_ERROR` as this means the peer has transmitted too much data (presumably lost in flight prior to the reset).

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<p>When a <code>RESET_STREAM</code> is received, it carries a <code>final size</code> field. The specs do not describe the behaviour if the final size exceeds per-stream or connection-wide flow-control limits: should a <code>FLOW_CONTROL_ERROR</code> be triggered or a <code>FINAL_SIZE_ERROR</code>?</p>
<p>My preference would be <code>FLOW_CONTROL_ERROR</code> as this means the peer has transmitted too much data (presumably lost in flight prior to the reset).</p>

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> This seems right to me; we're retransmitting frames, not packets.

Well... We retransmit information, not frames or packets. :)  Those people who do retransmit frames are not strictly *wrong*, but they are also not going to get the best results either.

Kazuho has provided what I think is the definitive response here.

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<p>This seems right to me; we're retransmitting frames, not packets.</p>
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<p>Well... We retransmit information, not frames or packets. :)  Those people who do retransmit frames are not strictly <em>wrong</em>, but they are also not going to get the best results either.</p>
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My point is what to send in Probe packet, not a usual retransmission detected by loss detection algorithm. 

recovery 6.3.4 has the following sentence:

   A) When the PTO timer expires, and there is new or previously sent
   unacknowledged data, it MUST be sent.  A probe packet SHOULD carry
   new data when possible.

   B) A probe packet MAY carry retransmitted
   unacknowledged data when new data is unavailable, when flow control
   does not permit new data to be sent, or to opportunistically reduce
   loss recovery delay.

   C) Implementations MAY use alternative strategies
   for determining the content of probe packets, including sending new
   or retransmitted data based on the application's priorities.

While B) can be a research topic which one is better to retransmit if there is multiple loss reported (oldest or newest), I wonder if A) and C) seems conflicting because that new data MUST be sent limits C) to pick up a strategy to send which data to retransmit.

I think there is some history why A) is in the first place and I believe it's from TLP definition. As many people pointed out, QUIC's monotonic packet number property will make better ACK ranges report coming back when we send a Probe packet.

This makes less importance on sending a new data as MUST. If so, I think we don't need to have a new data transmission as MUST.


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<p>My point is what to send in Probe packet, not a usual retransmission detected by loss detection algorithm.</p>
<p>recovery 6.3.4 has the following sentence:</p>
<p>A) When the PTO timer expires, and there is new or previously sent<br>
unacknowledged data, it MUST be sent.  A probe packet SHOULD carry<br>
new data when possible.</p>
<p>B) A probe packet MAY carry retransmitted<br>
unacknowledged data when new data is unavailable, when flow control<br>
does not permit new data to be sent, or to opportunistically reduce<br>
loss recovery delay.</p>
<p>C) Implementations MAY use alternative strategies<br>
for determining the content of probe packets, including sending new<br>
or retransmitted data based on the application's priorities.</p>
<p>While B) can be a research topic which one is better to retransmit if there is multiple loss reported (oldest or newest), I wonder if A) and C) seems conflicting because that new data MUST be sent limits C) to pick up a strategy to send which data to retransmit.</p>
<p>I think there is some history why A) is in the first place and I believe it's from TLP definition. As many people pointed out, QUIC's monotonic packet number property will make better ACK ranges report coming back when we send a Probe packet.</p>
<p>This makes less importance on sending a new data as MUST. If so, I think we don't need to have a new data transmission as MUST.</p>

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> @@ -429,14 +430,15 @@ the packet type and keys that are used for protecting data.
 
 Each encryption level is associated with a different sequence of bytes, which is
 reliably transmitted to the peer in CRYPTO frames. When TLS provides handshake
-bytes to be sent, they are appended to the current flow. Any packet that
-includes the CRYPTO frame is protected using keys from the corresponding
-encryption level. Four encryption levels are used, producing keys for Initial,
-0-RTT, Handshake, and 1-RTT packets. CRYPTO frames are carried in just three of
-these levels, omitting the 0-RTT level. These four levels correspond to three
-packet number spaces: Initial and Handshake encrypted packets use their own
-separate spaces; 0-RTT and 1-RTT packets use the application data packet number
-space.
+bytes to be sent, they are appended to the handshake bytes for the current
+encryption level. Any packet that includes the CRYPTO frame is protected using
+keys from the corresponding encryption level.

Not new text, but this feels like it's reversed.  It's not the fact that it includes these bytes that causes a packet to use particular keys; the level of these bytes determines which packet type it must be sent in.

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<p><b>@MikeBishop</b> approved this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3775#discussion_r444487776">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -429,14 +430,15 @@ the packet type and keys that are used for protecting data.
 
 Each encryption level is associated with a different sequence of bytes, which is
 reliably transmitted to the peer in CRYPTO frames. When TLS provides handshake
-bytes to be sent, they are appended to the current flow. Any packet that
-includes the CRYPTO frame is protected using keys from the corresponding
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-packet number spaces: Initial and Handshake encrypted packets use their own
-separate spaces; 0-RTT and 1-RTT packets use the application data packet number
-space.
+bytes to be sent, they are appended to the handshake bytes for the current
+encryption level. Any packet that includes the CRYPTO frame is protected using
+keys from the corresponding encryption level.
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<p>Not new text, but this feels like it's reversed.  It's not the fact that it includes these bytes that causes a packet to use particular keys; the level of these bytes determines which packet type it must be sent in.</p>

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> +counts therefore validates the counts before using them. An endpoint validates
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  Branch: refs/heads/clearer-ecn-validation
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
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  Changed paths:
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  Make language in ECN validation clearer

This avoids "no smaller than" and other such ambiguities.

However, in doing this, I realized that I might interpret the original
language as allowing a network to ADD markings.  That seems wrong.  But
it's a non-editorial change.  This version has that change.  I'll make
another PR with the hole left in place.

Closes #3733.


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  Don't use MUST for ECN validation

It is not an interoperability problem if the ECN counts don't match up,
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this, which implies non-compliance by a peer: the non-compliance is
likely somewhere in the network.


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  Rework ECN validation rules

This attempts to create rules that won't break down unnecessarily.  It's
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this.  The new check number 3 could be removed if we were comfortable
with the simplified check number 2 and the addition of the check for
unused markings.

Closes #3778.


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  Remove the complicated check, simplify


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  Tweak language more


  Commit: 56370b0f6111a90f61a6800bafea05515bf65f45
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  Merge pull request #3777 from quicwg/clearer-ecn-validation

Make language in ECN validation clearer


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I guess @junhochoi has a point. There is probably a tad too much text in the recovery draft, and the MUST there would be better replaced by an RFC 6919 variant.

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<p>I guess <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/junhochoi/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/junhochoi">@junhochoi</a> has a point. There is probably a tad too much text in the recovery draft, and the MUST there would be better replaced by an RFC 6919 variant.</p>

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Obviated by #3777.

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Closed #3767.

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> +max_idle_timout, max_udp_payload_size, and disable_active_migration parameters
+and reject 0-RTT if it selects smaller values. Lowering the values of these

"if the server chooses values for the resumed connection that are smaller than the original connection." ?

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> @@ -1749,6 +1749,14 @@ values for 0-RTT.  This includes initial_max_data and either
 initial_max_streams_bidi and initial_max_stream_data_bidi_remote, or
 initial_max_streams_uni and initial_max_stream_data_uni.
 
+A server MAY store and recover the previously sent values of the

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> +max_idle_timout, max_udp_payload_size, and disable_active_migration parameters
+and reject 0-RTT if it selects smaller values. Lowering the values of these

I think the sentence is fine. I don't know why I was unable to parse it last time.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3756#discussion_r444552380">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
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This still looks good with the latest commit Jana pushed.

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<p>This still looks good with the latest commit Jana pushed.</p>

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Is anyone arguing for leaving this issue open? If folks still want to continue discussing, I propose that we open a new issue to do it.

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<p>Is anyone arguing for leaving this issue open? If folks still want to continue discussing, I propose that we open a new issue to do it.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
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  Commit: 2a269e6058b7ff8494bed7ba4b19c7529aed1c75
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2a269e6058b7ff8494bed7ba4b19c7529aed1c75
  Author: Nick Harper <nharper@chromium.org>
  Date:   2020-06-17 (Wed, 17 Jun 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Mention every Transport Parameter in section on values for 0-RTT

The section for "Values of Transport Parameters for 0-RTT" specifies
which parameters a client MUST or MUST NOT remember. It does not do the
same for a server. (It implies that ones a client MUST NOT remember also
don't need to be remembered by a server, and it lists a subset of the
remaining as ones the server MUST remember.) This commit adds the
remaining parameters to a list that the server need not remember.


  Commit: e3d689f947ba0bc0a5e11db287b0038fec36e743
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e3d689f947ba0bc0a5e11db287b0038fec36e743
  Author: Nick Harper <nharper@chromium.org>
  Date:   2020-06-18 (Thu, 18 Jun 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Use active voice and mention why the server might remember these values

This is a tweak to @martinthomson's suggested change.


  Commit: 8f453832bdc72e7ad64502c8598bfa64e81ba439
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8f453832bdc72e7ad64502c8598bfa64e81ba439
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-06-23 (Tue, 23 Jun 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md


  Commit: eddb3de8cbdefe596f95d4a91318b99100870b7a
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  Date:   2020-06-23 (Tue, 23 Jun 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #3756 from nharper/0-rtt-tp

Mention every Transport Parameter in section on values for 0-RTT


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/1ff527443978...eddb3de8cbde


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This also adds a paragraph about buffering of CRYPTO frames that
references the buffering text in the transport doc.

Closes no issue, but there have been complaints.


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Use handshake bytes more consistently


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> @@ -429,14 +430,15 @@ the packet type and keys that are used for protecting data.
 
 Each encryption level is associated with a different sequence of bytes, which is
 reliably transmitted to the peer in CRYPTO frames. When TLS provides handshake
-bytes to be sent, they are appended to the current flow. Any packet that
-includes the CRYPTO frame is protected using keys from the corresponding
-encryption level. Four encryption levels are used, producing keys for Initial,
-0-RTT, Handshake, and 1-RTT packets. CRYPTO frames are carried in just three of
-these levels, omitting the 0-RTT level. These four levels correspond to three
-packet number spaces: Initial and Handshake encrypted packets use their own
-separate spaces; 0-RTT and 1-RTT packets use the application data packet number
-space.
+bytes to be sent, they are appended to the handshake bytes for the current
+encryption level. Any packet that includes the CRYPTO frame is protected using
+keys from the corresponding encryption level.

#3783 is an attempt to invert this.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3775#discussion_r444583228">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -429,14 +430,15 @@ the packet type and keys that are used for protecting data.
 
 Each encryption level is associated with a different sequence of bytes, which is
 reliably transmitted to the peer in CRYPTO frames. When TLS provides handshake
-bytes to be sent, they are appended to the current flow. Any packet that
-includes the CRYPTO frame is protected using keys from the corresponding
-encryption level. Four encryption levels are used, producing keys for Initial,
-0-RTT, Handshake, and 1-RTT packets. CRYPTO frames are carried in just three of
-these levels, omitting the 0-RTT level. These four levels correspond to three
-packet number spaces: Initial and Handshake encrypted packets use their own
-separate spaces; 0-RTT and 1-RTT packets use the application data packet number
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+bytes to be sent, they are appended to the handshake bytes for the current
+encryption level. Any packet that includes the CRYPTO frame is protected using
+keys from the corresponding encryption level.
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### Problem

Amplification protection (send no more than 3x of receive) on the server side ends up adding an extra round trip in many scenarios than use a large server certificate.

### Proposed Solution

Send more in the initial client flight.

We already require client Initial packets to be padded to at least 1200 bytes to force them to "pay to play" so to speak, but that's not enough if the server's certificate is larger than ~3K. [This blog post](https://www.fastly.com/blog/quic-handshake-tls-compression-certificates-extension-study) does a good job of outlining the problem and proposes certificate compression as a possible solution.

A simpler solution (IMO) is to recommend clients send more in their initial flight; perhaps two fully padded copies of their Client Hello. This effectively doubles the size of certificate that would fit in the server's first flight.

Doubling the number of initial packets may increase congestion at the start of the handshake, but QUIC has already made the decision to send 2 probe packets for recovery, compared to TCP's 1.

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<h3>Problem</h3>
<p>Amplification protection (send no more than 3x of receive) on the server side ends up adding an extra round trip in many scenarios than use a large server certificate.</p>
<h3>Proposed Solution</h3>
<p>Send more in the initial client flight.</p>
<p>We already require client Initial packets to be padded to at least 1200 bytes to force them to "pay to play" so to speak, but that's not enough if the server's certificate is larger than ~3K. <a href="https://www.fastly.com/blog/quic-handshake-tls-compression-certificates-extension-study" rel="nofollow">This blog post</a> does a good job of outlining the problem and proposes certificate compression as a possible solution.</p>
<p>A simpler solution (IMO) is to recommend clients send more in their initial flight; perhaps two fully padded copies of their Client Hello. This effectively doubles the size of certificate that would fit in the server's first flight.</p>
<p>Doubling the number of initial packets may increase congestion at the start of the handshake, but QUIC has already made the decision to send 2 probe packets for recovery, compared to TCP's 1.</p>

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I think that there are things that might be said about this point:

Unlike TCP, QUIC decouples flow control from congestion control.  This can release pressure on having a good flow control algorithm.  An endpoint can use flow control to constrain resource commitments without paying specific attention to tuning the algorithm.  

An endpoint might therefore implement a suboptimal flow control algorithm, up to the point where the BDP starts to approach the resources allocated to receiving data.  As BDP reaches this point, an endpoint needs to provide flow control updates in a timely fashion if it wishes to avoid flow control limiting throughput.  An endpoint that is unable to ensure that a peer has flow control credit in the order of the BDP will have their throughput limited by flow control and not congestion control.

(It's a little more complicated than that, as losses are discovered and repaired over a period larger than an RTT, and then you have to allow for flow control updates being lost.  The real value you need to target is therefore likely to be something more than 9/8 times the BDP.  But I think that gets the idea across.)

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<p>I think that there are things that might be said about this point:</p>
<p>Unlike TCP, QUIC decouples flow control from congestion control.  This can release pressure on having a good flow control algorithm.  An endpoint can use flow control to constrain resource commitments without paying specific attention to tuning the algorithm.</p>
<p>An endpoint might therefore implement a suboptimal flow control algorithm, up to the point where the BDP starts to approach the resources allocated to receiving data.  As BDP reaches this point, an endpoint needs to provide flow control updates in a timely fashion if it wishes to avoid flow control limiting throughput.  An endpoint that is unable to ensure that a peer has flow control credit in the order of the BDP will have their throughput limited by flow control and not congestion control.</p>
<p>(It's a little more complicated than that, as losses are discovered and repaired over a period larger than an RTT, and then you have to allow for flow control updates being lost.  The real value you need to target is therefore likely to be something more than 9/8 times the BDP.  But I think that gets the idea across.)</p>

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How much of this requires specification, as opposed to clients just doing stuff?

And how much would relieving this pressure just remove an incentive on servers to have smaller certificates?  I mean, if you have a giant certificate, then you get TCP-level performance, maybe that's OK.

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<p>And how much would relieving this pressure just remove an incentive on servers to have smaller certificates?  I mean, if you have a giant certificate, then you get TCP-level performance, maybe that's OK.</p>

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After discussing this a little more, I have come to realize that most of what you are proposing is covered already - in excruciating detail - in [the manageability draft](https://quicwg.org/ops-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-manageability.html).  Maybe the words and framing are different, and it might be less direct than what you propose, but the important concepts exist there.

What you propose here takes a small step toward moving that into invariants and I don't think that fits with my conception of the document.

The primary function for me is that of a commitment regarding the shape of future versions of QUIC.  That's a commitment that the IETF makes, and given what I know about how good we are at keeping those commitments, that's not worth a lot.  But if we accept the credibility of that commitment, it has value if it successfully constrains future QUIC versions.

Why we do that is in the hope that intermediaries will choose to respect the boundaries we set.  So you are right in calling out the fact that this is the line of tape dividing the apartment in two and the effect that has on curtailing the movements of both parties.  However, I don't want to say much about intermediaries (though some discussion exists in security considerations).

If anything, I would prefer to leave this at something less targeted and more concise.  Maybe the following as a new Section 4 "Scope":

> To the extent that other entities are able to participate in communication between endpoints, a goal of the QUIC design is to provide technical measures that prevent interaction with a QUIC connection by entities other than QUIC endpoints. However, these technical measures are limited in what they can protect and could vary between versions.
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> This document defines what parts of the QUIC protocol are not permitted to vary between versions.  As a consequence, this also guarantees a minimal amount of information that is made available to entities other than QUIC endpoints.
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> Limited interaction with QUIC connections is permitted by entities other than endpoints, such as load balancers or measurement devices, where interactions are expressly enabled by endpoints.

After that, I think we're into either increasing the scope or taking material from the manageability draft, neither of which I think make this document better.



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<p>After discussing this a little more, I have come to realize that most of what you are proposing is covered already - in excruciating detail - in <a href="https://quicwg.org/ops-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-manageability.html" rel="nofollow">the manageability draft</a>.  Maybe the words and framing are different, and it might be less direct than what you propose, but the important concepts exist there.</p>
<p>What you propose here takes a small step toward moving that into invariants and I don't think that fits with my conception of the document.</p>
<p>The primary function for me is that of a commitment regarding the shape of future versions of QUIC.  That's a commitment that the IETF makes, and given what I know about how good we are at keeping those commitments, that's not worth a lot.  But if we accept the credibility of that commitment, it has value if it successfully constrains future QUIC versions.</p>
<p>Why we do that is in the hope that intermediaries will choose to respect the boundaries we set.  So you are right in calling out the fact that this is the line of tape dividing the apartment in two and the effect that has on curtailing the movements of both parties.  However, I don't want to say much about intermediaries (though some discussion exists in security considerations).</p>
<p>If anything, I would prefer to leave this at something less targeted and more concise.  Maybe the following as a new Section 4 "Scope":</p>
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<p>To the extent that other entities are able to participate in communication between endpoints, a goal of the QUIC design is to provide technical measures that prevent interaction with a QUIC connection by entities other than QUIC endpoints. However, these technical measures are limited in what they can protect and could vary between versions.</p>
<p>This document defines what parts of the QUIC protocol are not permitted to vary between versions.  As a consequence, this also guarantees a minimal amount of information that is made available to entities other than QUIC endpoints.</p>
<p>Limited interaction with QUIC connections is permitted by entities other than endpoints, such as load balancers or measurement devices, where interactions are expressly enabled by endpoints.</p>
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<p>After that, I think we're into either increasing the scope or taking material from the manageability draft, neither of which I think make this document better.</p>

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...it's just a Version field.

This is a subtle one, but it follows from the work that others have been
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...it&#39;s just a Version field.

This is a subtle one, but it follows from the work that others have been
doing on greasing versions or providing additions to echconfig for QUIC
connection establishment.  It basically says that Version is for
endpoints, not middleboxes.
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<p>...it's just a Version field.</p>
<p>This is a subtle one, but it follows from the work that others have been<br>
doing on greasing versions or providing additions to echconfig for QUIC<br>
connection establishment.  It basically says that Version is for<br>
endpoints, not middleboxes.</p>

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  <li>Version field &lt;-&gt; Version is not invariant</li>
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Or MAY, but let&#39;s leave this probabilistic, because in practice there is
no uncertainty: packets are protected.

I&#39;ve changed the header of the section because it isn&#39;t just about the
header: the subsections are about the specific headers, but this one is
about packets as a whole.
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<p>Or MAY, but let's leave this probabilistic, because in practice there is<br>
no uncertainty: packets are protected.</p>
<p>I've changed the header of the section because it isn't just about the<br>
header: the subsections are about the specific headers, but this one is<br>
about packets as a whole.</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>Packets might be integrity protected</li>
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I'm not committed to this.  I think that the document would be fine
without it, but it brings less of the manageability concerns into scope
than the proposed alternative.

Closes #3773.
Closes #3774.



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I&#39;m not committed to this.  I think that the document would be fine
without it, but it brings less of the manageability concerns into scope
than the proposed alternative.

Closes #3773.
Closes #3774.
You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3787

-- Commit Summary --

  * Add a Scope section to invariants

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md (17)

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<p>I'm not committed to this.  I think that the document would be fine<br>
without it, but it brings less of the manageability concerns into scope<br>
than the proposed alternative.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3773.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="640800325" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3773" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3773/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3773">#3773</a>.<br>
<span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes pull request #3774.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="640817677" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3774" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3774/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3774">#3774</a>.</p>

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  <li>Add a Scope section to invariants</li>
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Good catch on manageability, though that's an Informational draft, and the thread that spawned all this was a desire for normative text.

> The primary function for me is that of a commitment regarding the shape of future versions of QUIC. That's a commitment that the IETF makes, and given what I know about how good we are at keeping those commitments, that's not worth a lot. But if we accept the credibility of that commitment, it has value if it successfully constrains future QUIC versions.

This sounds like an informational purpose to me.

Your proposed text is fine.

As for my PR, I thought we'd gathered rough consensus that something to that effect was desirable, but I'm not going to lie down in the road over it.

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<p>Good catch on manageability, though that's an Informational draft, and the thread that spawned all this was a desire for normative text.</p>
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<p>The primary function for me is that of a commitment regarding the shape of future versions of QUIC. That's a commitment that the IETF makes, and given what I know about how good we are at keeping those commitments, that's not worth a lot. But if we accept the credibility of that commitment, it has value if it successfully constrains future QUIC versions.</p>
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<p>This sounds like an informational purpose to me.</p>
<p>Your proposed text is fine.</p>
<p>As for my PR, I thought we'd gathered rough consensus that something to that effect was desirable, but I'm not going to lie down in the road over it.</p>

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According to the data in the blog post, we're talking about ~43% of the handshakes sampled (assuming 1200 byte initial packets). If you make the assumption that operators of these websites do the minimal effort possible when updating to HTTP/3 and continue to have the same certificates, that's 43% of handshakes that get no benefit (during the handshake) for using QUIC. Personally, I think it's something the spec should address with a recommendation.

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<p>According to the data in the blog post, we're talking about ~43% of the handshakes sampled (assuming 1200 byte initial packets). If you make the assumption that operators of these websites do the minimal effort possible when updating to HTTP/3 and continue to have the same certificates, that's 43% of handshakes that get no benefit (during the handshake) for using QUIC. Personally, I think it's something the spec should address with a recommendation.</p>

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Ongoing analysis efforts with Jean Paul Degabriele, Felix G=C3=BCnther, K=
enny Paterson, and Martin Thomson revealed that QUIC should consider chan=
ging its confidentiality and integrity limits to account for multi-user s=
ecurity settings. As some background, the existing limits in draft-ietf-q=
uic-tls apply to a single key. They are derived from several existing ana=
lyses in the literature, including [[1]](https://eprint.iacr.org/2012/438=
.pdf), [[2]](https://eprint.iacr.org/2014/613.pdf), [[3]](https://link.sp=
ringer.com/chapter/10.1007/3-540-36492-7_7), and [[4]](https://www.isg.rh=
ul.ac.uk/~kp/TLS-AEbounds.pdf). Concretely, they seek to bound an attacke=
r=E2=80=99s advantage in breaking the security guarantees of the AEAD alg=
orithm for a specific key in question. When a Key Update occurs, endpoint=
s receive a new key, which resets the encryption and forgery attempt coun=
ters for this new key. =0D
=0D
This analysis fails to account for settings in which there are multiple, =
independent users of an AEAD algorithm, each with their own unique key. I=
n these so-called =E2=80=9Cmulti-user=E2=80=9D settings, the attacker is =
allowed to perform some amount of offline work to help accelerate any att=
ack on the AEAD algorithm. However, rather than target a single user=E2=80=
=99s specific key, they are tasked with distinguishing all traffic (under=
 all keys) from an equal amount of random bits. In the public-key setting=
, Bellare et al. [[5]](https://cseweb.ucsd.edu/~mihir/papers/musu.pdf) pr=
ove that the success probability in attacking one of the many independent=
 users (or keys) is bounded by the success probability of attacking a sin=
gle user (or key) multiplied by the number of users present. (This result=
 extends to the symmetric-key setting.)=0D
=0D
Why is this important? Each key used throughout the duration of a single =
connection is effectively a distinct user. This means that the attacker=E2=
=80=99s probability of success against any key in a connection must be co=
nsidered across all keys. Or, more precisely, the integrity limit counter=
s MUST NOT reset across Key Updates. (Confidentiality limits still apply =
for individual keys, rather than across Key Updates, since there=E2=80=99=
s no functional difference in the analyses between tearing down a connect=
ion and performing an update. The analyses consider encryption as a funct=
ion of plaintext blocks protected. Thus, users that need to send N blocks=
 of data will send N blocks of data, whether it be in one connection with=
 many keys, or many connections with a single key.)=0D
=0D
Fortunately, this may not be much of a problem in practice. Hoang et al. =
[[6]](https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3243734.3243816) provide tight multi=
-user security bounds for AES-GCM with nonce randomization (as is used by=
 TLS 1.3 and QUIC), and those bounds permit a higher amount than previous=
ly established for a single key. However, to the best of our knowledge, t=
here are no multi-user security analyses giving tighter bounds than the g=
eneric analyses of AEAD_CHACHA20_POLY1305 and AEAD_AES_128_CCM. Thus, for=
 the time being, we are stuck with the single-user integrity limits sprea=
d across Key Updates for these AEADs. Recognizing that this is a relative=
ly new area for research, we are aiming to be quite conservative in setti=
ng limits, though we do allow an attacker a greater advantage in this mul=
ti-user attack than we would for a single connection. We may relax these =
limits if and when future analyses demonstrate that it=E2=80=99s safe to =
do so.=0D
=0D
Note that this is not an ideal outcome. A =E2=80=9Ctrue=E2=80=9D multi-us=
er setting would consider all users, i.e., all keys in all connections us=
ed by all QUIC clients and servers, simultaneously. However, endpoints ca=
nnot obtain such a global view of the Internet, and thus cannot make real=
istic parameter choices for bounds based on the number of users. The comp=
romise struck in this PR is to consider a narrow view of multi-user secur=
ity, i.e., one in which the only =E2=80=9Cusers=E2=80=9D in a connection =
are those introduced by Key Update messages. (This is certainly a gap in =
the literature worth exploring in the future.) We also recommend setting =
very strong targets for attacker advantage for a single key, which we est=
imate will ensure that an attacker still has limited advantage in the mul=
ti-user setting.=0D
=0D
Felix, Martin, and I did our best to document the basis for the analysis =
in this issue (and corresponding PR) in this CFRG I-D:=0D
=0D
   https://github.com/chris-wood/draft-wood-cfrg-aead-limits=0D
=0D
We believe the foundations for this analysis are sound, though we are of =
course happy to learn if we made arithmetic mistakes. :-)=0D
=0D
[1] https://eprint.iacr.org/2012/438.pdf=0D
[2] https://eprint.iacr.org/2014/613.pdf=0D
[3] https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/3-540-36492-7_7=0D
[4] https://www.isg.rhul.ac.uk/~kp/TLS-AEbounds.pdf=0D
[5] https://cseweb.ucsd.edu/~mihir/papers/musu.pdf=0D
[6] https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3243734.3243816=0D
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<p>Ongoing analysis efforts with Jean Paul Degabriele, Felix G=C3=BCnther=
, Kenny Paterson, and Martin Thomson revealed that QUIC should consider c=
hanging its confidentiality and integrity limits to account for multi-use=
r security settings. As some background, the existing limits in draft-iet=
f-quic-tls apply to a single key. They are derived from several existing =
analyses in the literature, including <a href=3D"https://eprint.iacr.org/=
2012/438.pdf" rel=3D"nofollow">[1]</a>, <a href=3D"https://eprint.iacr.or=
g/2014/613.pdf" rel=3D"nofollow">[2]</a>, <a href=3D"https://link.springe=
r.com/chapter/10.1007/3-540-36492-7_7" rel=3D"nofollow">[3]</a>, and <a h=
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[4]</a>. Concretely, they seek to bound an attacker=E2=80=99s advantage i=
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ey in question. When a Key Update occurs, endpoints receive a new key, wh=
ich resets the encryption and forgery attempt counters for this new key.<=
/p>=0D
<p>This analysis fails to account for settings in which there are multipl=
e, independent users of an AEAD algorithm, each with their own unique key=
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is allowed to perform some amount of offline work to help accelerate any =
attack on the AEAD algorithm. However, rather than target a single user=E2=
=80=99s specific key, they are tasked with distinguishing all traffic (un=
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.pdf" rel=3D"nofollow">[5]</a> prove that the success probability in atta=
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<p>Why is this important? Each key used throughout the duration of a sing=
le connection is effectively a distinct user. This means that the attacke=
r=E2=80=99s probability of success against any key in a connection must b=
e considered across all keys. Or, more precisely, the integrity limit cou=
nters MUST NOT reset across Key Updates. (Confidentiality limits still ap=
ply for individual keys, rather than across Key Updates, since there=E2=80=
=99s no functional difference in the analyses between tearing down a conn=
ection and performing an update. The analyses consider encryption as a fu=
nction of plaintext blocks protected. Thus, users that need to send N blo=
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ingle-user integrity limits spread across Key Updates for these AEADs. Re=
cognizing that this is a relatively new area for research, we are aiming =
to be quite conservative in setting limits, though we do allow an attacke=
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<p>Note that this is not an ideal outcome. A =E2=80=9Ctrue=E2=80=9D multi=
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 used by all QUIC clients and servers, simultaneously. However, endpoints=
 cannot obtain such a global view of the Internet, and thus cannot make r=
ealistic parameter choices for bounds based on the number of users. The c=
ompromise struck in this PR is to consider a narrow view of multi-user se=
curity, i.e., one in which the only =E2=80=9Cusers=E2=80=9D in a connecti=
on are those introduced by Key Update messages. (This is certainly a gap =
in the literature worth exploring in the future.) We also recommend setti=
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estimate will ensure that an attacker still has limited advantage in the =
multi-user setting.</p>=0D
<p>Felix, Martin, and I did our best to document the basis for the analys=
is in this issue (and corresponding PR) in this CFRG I-D:</p>=0D
<p><a href=3D"https://github.com/chris-wood/draft-wood-cfrg-aead-limits">=
https://github.com/chris-wood/draft-wood-cfrg-aead-limits</a></p>=0D
<p>We believe the foundations for this analysis are sound, though we are =
of course happy to learn if we made arithmetic mistakes. :-)</p>=0D
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Addresses #3788.

In a typical multi-user setting, the adversary is assumed to perform some
(massive) amount of offline work to break the integrity of a single random
connection. Each user is represented as a unique (key, nonce) pair. In
considering the same threat model, we must treat each key resulting from
a KeyUpdate event as a unique user. As a result, roughly speaking, bounds
implied from the multi-user setting imply (minimally) for the lifetime of
a single connection.

Hoang et al. [1] present tight multi-user security bounds for randomized AES-GCM
(as is used in TLS 1.3 and QUIC), so we can take advantage of those for
per-connection integrity limits. (Confidentiality limits still apply per-key, as
the analysis considers only encrypted blocks, which would not change if an endpoint
updated its key or created a new connection.) In contrast, there are no multi-user
security bounds for AEAD_CHACHA20_POLY1305 or AEAD_AES_128_CCM, so we must use the
single-user bounds in their stead.

[1] https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3243734.3243816
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  * Expand AEAD limits to consider multi-user security.

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md (176)

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<p>Addresses <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="645044913" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3788" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3788/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3788">#3788</a>.</p>
<p>In a typical multi-user setting, the adversary is assumed to perform some<br>
(massive) amount of offline work to break the integrity of a single random<br>
connection. Each user is represented as a unique (key, nonce) pair. In<br>
considering the same threat model, we must treat each key resulting from<br>
a KeyUpdate event as a unique user. As a result, roughly speaking, bounds<br>
implied from the multi-user setting imply (minimally) for the lifetime of<br>
a single connection.</p>
<p>Hoang et al. [1] present tight multi-user security bounds for randomized AES-GCM<br>
(as is used in TLS 1.3 and QUIC), so we can take advantage of those for<br>
per-connection integrity limits. (Confidentiality limits still apply per-key, as<br>
the analysis considers only encrypted blocks, which would not change if an endpoint<br>
updated its key or created a new connection.) In contrast, there are no multi-user<br>
security bounds for AEAD_CHACHA20_POLY1305 or AEAD_AES_128_CCM, so we must use the<br>
single-user bounds in their stead.</p>
<p>[1] <a rel="nofollow" href="https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3243734.3243816">https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3243734.3243816</a></p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
<ul>
  <li>Expand AEAD limits to consider multi-user security.</li>
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<h4>File Changes</h4>
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    <strong>M</strong>
    <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3789/files#diff-afdf56cd6ee6d10d94d669541f99bc07">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>
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@janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

Thank you for the PR, @chris-wood ! A few comments.

> @@ -2207,10 +2206,14 @@ v:
   bound on the number of forged packets that an endpoint can reject before
   updating keys.
 
-The analysis of AEAD_AES_128_CCM relies on a count of the number of block
-operations involved in producing each message. For simplicity, and to match the
-analysis of other AEAD functions in {{AEBounds}}, this analysis assumes a
-packet length of 2^10 blocks and a packet size limit of 2^14.
+o:
+
+: The amount of offline ideal cipher queries made by an adversary.
+
+The analyses that follow rely on a count of the number of block operations
+involved in producing each message. For simplicity, and to match the analysis of
+other AEAD functions in {{AEBounds}}, this analysis assumes a packet length of
+2^10 blocks; that is, a packet size limit of 2^14 bytes.

I don't understand how this impacts the analysis, but why is packet size 2^14 bytes? For QUIC, I would suggest that 2^11 ought to be adequate (if a larger packet size is more conservative).

> +
+~~~
+(q + v) <= 2^28
+~~~
+
+Assuming `v = q`, endpoints cannot protect more than 2^27 packets in a single
+connection without causing an attacker to gain an larger advantage than the
+target of 2^-60.
+
+### Integrity Limit
+
+For integrity, Theorem (4.3) in {{?GCM-MU}} establishes that an attacker gains
+an advantage in successfully forging a packet of no more than:
+
+~~~
+(1 / 2^(8 * n)) + ((2 * v) / 2^2*n) + ((2 * o * v) / 2^(k + n))

```suggestion
(1 / 2^(8 * n)) + ((2 * v) / 2^(2 * n)) + ((2 * o * v) / 2^(k + n))
```
?

>  
-Key updates MUST be initiated before usage limits on packet protection keys are
-exceeded. For the cipher suites mentioned in this document, the limits in
-Section 5.5 of {{!TLS13}} apply. {{!TLS13}} does not specify a limit for
-AEAD_AES_128_CCM, but the analysis in {{ccm-bounds}} shows that a limit of 2^23
-packets can be used to obtain the same confidentiality protection as the limits
-specified in TLS.
+This document sets usage limits for AEAD algorithms to ensure that overuse does
+not give an adversary a disproportionate advantage in attacking the
+confidentiality and integrity of communications.

```suggestion
confidentiality and integrity of communications when using QUIC.
```

> +If the number of packets sent or fail authentication within the connection
+(across all keys) exceeds a limit that is specific to the AEAD in use, the
+endpoint MUST immediately close the connection and not attempt to process any
+further packets.  Applying a limit reduces the probability that an attacker can
+successfully forge a packet; see {{AEBounds}}, {{ROBUST}}, and {{?GCM-MU}}.
+
+A connection MUST be closed if the number of packets that fail authentication
+exceed the integrity limit for the selected AEAD. For AEAD_AES_128_GCM, and the
+integrity limit is 2^54 encrypted or forged packets; see {{gcm-bounds}}.  For
+AEAD_CHACHA20_POLY1305, the limit on number of packets that fail authentication
+is 2^36; see {{AEBounds}}.  For AEAD_AES_128_CCM, the integrity limit is 2^23.5
+forged packets; see {{ccm-bounds}}.

There seems to be some redundancy and some inconsistencies in the text heree, I've tried to clean it up a bit. See if the following is accurate.
```suggestion
If the total number of received packets that fail authentication within the
connection, across all keys, exceeds the integrity limit for the selected AEAD,
the endpoint MUST immediately close the connection and not process any more
packets. For AEAD_AES_128_GCM, the integrity limit is 2^54 forged packets; see
{{gcm-bounds}}. For AEAD_CHACHA20_POLY1305, the integrity limit is 2^36
forged packets; see {{AEBounds}}. For AEAD_AES_128_CCM, the integrity limit
is 2^23.5 forged packets; see {{ccm-bounds}}. Applying this limit reduces the
probability that an attacker can successfully forge a packet; see {{AEBounds}},
{{ROBUST}}, and {{?GCM-MU}}.
```

> -  This means that packets that fail authentication will often use the packet
-  protection keys from the next key phase.  It is therefore necessary to also
-  track the number of packets that fail authentication with the next set of
-  packet protection keys.  To avoid exhaustion of both sets of keys, it might be
-  necessary to initiate two key updates in succession.
-
-For AEAD_AES_128_GCM, AEAD_AES_256_GCM, and AEAD_CHACHA20_POLY1305, the limit on
-the number of packets that fail authentication is 2^36.  Note that the analysis
-in {{AEBounds}} supports a higher limit for the AEAD_AES_128_GCM and
-AEAD_AES_256_GCM, but this specification recommends a lower limit.  For
-AEAD_AES_128_CCM, the limit on the number of packets that fail authentication
-is 2^23.5; see {{ccm-bounds}}.
+Endpoints MUST count the number of encrypted packets for each set of keys. If
+the number of encrypted packets with the same key exceeds a limit that is
+specific to the AEAD in use, the endpoint MUST stop using those keys. If a key
+update is not possible, the endpoint MUST immediately close the connection.

Should an error code specified here? How is the endpoint closing the connection?

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+=0D
+The analyses that follow rely on a count of the number of block operatio=
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+Assuming `v =3D q`, endpoints cannot protect more than 2^27 packets in a=
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on_r445913823">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>=0D
<pre style=3D'color:#555'>&gt; +If the number of packets sent or fail aut=
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+(across all keys) exceeds a limit that is specific to the AEAD in use, t=
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+endpoint MUST immediately close the connection and not attempt to proces=
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+A connection MUST be closed if the number of packets that fail authentic=
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(I'll invoke the @mcmanus for his thoughts, since he wrote that article.)

At a high level, we should be working on reducing the handshake size, for two reasons: reduced packet loss, and reduced network load. Fewer packets in the handshake is generally good. Compression is aligned with this outcome, and it is not a steep hill. Simply inflating the client's hello goes in exactly the opposite direction.

I would suggest that simply moving to QUIC without cert compression was not expected to reduce handshake latency. It was always a critical part of gQUIC, and was always considered a part of the equation for realizing QUIC's potential.

That is how I read the article -- that to realize QUIC's promise, cert compression is necessary. Perhaps it might be useful to mention this somewhere in the TLS draft?


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<p>(I'll invoke the <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/mcmanus/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/mcmanus">@mcmanus</a> for his thoughts, since he wrote that article.)</p>
<p>At a high level, we should be working on reducing the handshake size, for two reasons: reduced packet loss, and reduced network load. Fewer packets in the handshake is generally good. Compression is aligned with this outcome, and it is not a steep hill. Simply inflating the client's hello goes in exactly the opposite direction.</p>
<p>I would suggest that simply moving to QUIC without cert compression was not expected to reduce handshake latency. It was always a critical part of gQUIC, and was always considered a part of the equation for realizing QUIC's potential.</p>
<p>That is how I read the article -- that to realize QUIC's promise, cert compression is necessary. Perhaps it might be useful to mention this somewhere in the TLS draft?</p>

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My take on the invariants draft is the same as @martinthomson's: That is really about what future protocol versions of QUIC need to adhere to. I don't think we should be specifying what we are making available to intermediaries. That is merely a side-effect, and I don't think we should be changing the scope of the document.

These bits were not made available so intermediaries could use them. They were made available for the endpoints to pivot around, for the receiver to find the necessary information so that it could decrypt or reject the packet. The bits that are visible to third parties is a consequence, and this consequence is equally useful to intermediaries and sniffing tools.

@martinthomson : FWIW, I think the second paragraph in the proposed text is adequate. The first and third explicitly state things that don't really belong in the invariants draft IMO.

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<p>My take on the invariants draft is the same as <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/martinthomson/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/martinthomson">@martinthomson</a>'s: That is really about what future protocol versions of QUIC need to adhere to. I don't think we should be specifying what we are making available to intermediaries. That is merely a side-effect, and I don't think we should be changing the scope of the document.</p>
<p>These bits were not made available so intermediaries could use them. They were made available for the endpoints to pivot around, for the receiver to find the necessary information so that it could decrypt or reject the packet. The bits that are visible to third parties is a consequence, and this consequence is equally useful to intermediaries and sniffing tools.</p>
<p><a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/martinthomson/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/martinthomson">@martinthomson</a> : FWIW, I think the second paragraph in the proposed text is adequate. The first and third explicitly state things that don't really belong in the invariants draft IMO.</p>

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I think the second para is enough, and it can be made the last para of the Intro section.



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<p>I think the second para is enough, and it can be made the last para of the Intro section.</p>

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@reschke raised the point that the following text might be misleading, since HTTP/1.1 allows pipelining: "HTTP/1.1 [HTTP11] is a TCP mapping which uses whitespace-delimited text fields to convey HTTP messages. While these exchanges are human-readable, using whitespace for message formatting leads to parsing complexity and motivates tolerance of variant behavior. Because each connection can transfer only a single HTTP request or response at a time in each direction, multiple parallel TCP connections are often used, reducing the ability of the congestion controller to effectively manage traffic between endpoints."

@mnot suggested the following text instead: "Because of limitations in how HTTP exchanges are mapped onto TCP connections in HTTP/1.1, multiple parallel connections are often used..."

@royfielding suggested the following text instead: "Because HTTP/1.x does not include a multiplexing layer, multiple TCP connections are often used to service requests in parallel. However, that has a negative impact on congestion control and network efficiency, since TCP does not share congestion control across multiple connections."


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> -  This means that packets that fail authentication will often use the packet
-  protection keys from the next key phase.  It is therefore necessary to also
-  track the number of packets that fail authentication with the next set of
-  packet protection keys.  To avoid exhaustion of both sets of keys, it might be
-  necessary to initiate two key updates in succession.
-
-For AEAD_AES_128_GCM, AEAD_AES_256_GCM, and AEAD_CHACHA20_POLY1305, the limit on
-the number of packets that fail authentication is 2^36.  Note that the analysis
-in {{AEBounds}} supports a higher limit for the AEAD_AES_128_GCM and
-AEAD_AES_256_GCM, but this specification recommends a lower limit.  For
-AEAD_AES_128_CCM, the limit on the number of packets that fail authentication
-is 2^23.5; see {{ccm-bounds}}.
+Endpoints MUST count the number of encrypted packets for each set of keys. If
+the number of encrypted packets with the same key exceeds a limit that is
+specific to the AEAD in use, the endpoint MUST stop using those keys. If a key
+update is not possible, the endpoint MUST immediately close the connection.

I think that we need to just stop using the connection and send no more packets.  We probably need to be explicit about that and mention that a stateless reset is the only thing that can be sent thereafter.

An immediate close before reaching the limit might be recommended to avoid the sudden nature of that sort of close.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3789#discussion_r445927529">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; -  This means that packets that fail authentication will often use the packet
-  protection keys from the next key phase.  It is therefore necessary to also
-  track the number of packets that fail authentication with the next set of
-  packet protection keys.  To avoid exhaustion of both sets of keys, it might be
-  necessary to initiate two key updates in succession.
-
-For AEAD_AES_128_GCM, AEAD_AES_256_GCM, and AEAD_CHACHA20_POLY1305, the limit on
-the number of packets that fail authentication is 2^36.  Note that the analysis
-in {{AEBounds}} supports a higher limit for the AEAD_AES_128_GCM and
-AEAD_AES_256_GCM, but this specification recommends a lower limit.  For
-AEAD_AES_128_CCM, the limit on the number of packets that fail authentication
-is 2^23.5; see {{ccm-bounds}}.
+Endpoints MUST count the number of encrypted packets for each set of keys. If
+the number of encrypted packets with the same key exceeds a limit that is
+specific to the AEAD in use, the endpoint MUST stop using those keys. If a key
+update is not possible, the endpoint MUST immediately close the connection.
</pre>
<p>I think that we need to just stop using the connection and send no more packets.  We probably need to be explicit about that and mention that a stateless reset is the only thing that can be sent thereafter.</p>
<p>An immediate close before reaching the limit might be recommended to avoid the sudden nature of that sort of close.</p>

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> +
+~~~
+(q + v) <= 2^28
+~~~
+
+Assuming `v = q`, endpoints cannot protect more than 2^27 packets in a single
+connection without causing an attacker to gain an larger advantage than the
+target of 2^-60.
+
+### Integrity Limit
+
+For integrity, Theorem (4.3) in {{?GCM-MU}} establishes that an attacker gains
+an advantage in successfully forging a packet of no more than:
+
+~~~
+(1 / 2^(8 * n)) + ((2 * v) / 2^2*n) + ((2 * o * v) / 2^(k + n))

The only potential problem here is with line length, but this seems better.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3789#discussion_r445927672">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +
+~~~
+(q + v) &lt;= 2^28
+~~~
+
+Assuming `v = q`, endpoints cannot protect more than 2^27 packets in a single
+connection without causing an attacker to gain an larger advantage than the
+target of 2^-60.
+
+### Integrity Limit
+
+For integrity, Theorem (4.3) in {{?GCM-MU}} establishes that an attacker gains
+an advantage in successfully forging a packet of no more than:
+
+~~~
+(1 / 2^(8 * n)) + ((2 * v) / 2^2*n) + ((2 * o * v) / 2^(k + n))
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<p>The only potential problem here is with line length, but this seems better.</p>

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> @@ -2207,10 +2206,14 @@ v:
   bound on the number of forged packets that an endpoint can reject before
   updating keys.
 
-The analysis of AEAD_AES_128_CCM relies on a count of the number of block
-operations involved in producing each message. For simplicity, and to match the
-analysis of other AEAD functions in {{AEBounds}}, this analysis assumes a
-packet length of 2^10 blocks and a packet size limit of 2^14.
+o:
+
+: The amount of offline ideal cipher queries made by an adversary.
+
+The analyses that follow rely on a count of the number of block operations
+involved in producing each message. For simplicity, and to match the analysis of
+other AEAD functions in {{AEBounds}}, this analysis assumes a packet length of
+2^10 blocks; that is, a packet size limit of 2^14 bytes.

We decided that matching the TLS analysis in this regard is best.  Using the larger number is more conservative, so the margins in practice will be better than what we have calculated here.

There is of course the theoretical limit on QUIC packets, which is 2^16 bytes or 2^12 blocks, but as you say, they are mostly much smaller.  There is an existing note about this discrepancy for those running a massive MTU.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3789#discussion_r445928115">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -2207,10 +2206,14 @@ v:
   bound on the number of forged packets that an endpoint can reject before
   updating keys.
 
-The analysis of AEAD_AES_128_CCM relies on a count of the number of block
-operations involved in producing each message. For simplicity, and to match the
-analysis of other AEAD functions in {{AEBounds}}, this analysis assumes a
-packet length of 2^10 blocks and a packet size limit of 2^14.
+o:
+
+: The amount of offline ideal cipher queries made by an adversary.
+
+The analyses that follow rely on a count of the number of block operations
+involved in producing each message. For simplicity, and to match the analysis of
+other AEAD functions in {{AEBounds}}, this analysis assumes a packet length of
+2^10 blocks; that is, a packet size limit of 2^14 bytes.
</pre>
<p>We decided that matching the TLS analysis in this regard is best.  Using the larger number is more conservative, so the margins in practice will be better than what we have calculated here.</p>
<p>There is of course the theoretical limit on QUIC packets, which is 2^16 bytes or 2^12 blocks, but as you say, they are mostly much smaller.  There is an existing note about this discrepancy for those running a massive MTU.</p>

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> +
+~~~
+(q + v) <= 2^28
+~~~
+
+Assuming `v = q`, endpoints cannot protect more than 2^27 packets in a single
+connection without causing an attacker to gain an larger advantage than the
+target of 2^-60.
+
+### Integrity Limit
+
+For integrity, Theorem (4.3) in {{?GCM-MU}} establishes that an attacker gains
+an advantage in successfully forging a packet of no more than:
+
+~~~
+(1 / 2^(8 * n)) + ((2 * v) / 2^2*n) + ((2 * o * v) / 2^(k + n))

```
this:~ jiyengar$ echo "(1 / 2^(8 * n)) + ((2 * v) / 2^(2 * n)) + ((2 * o * v) / 2^(k + n))" | wc -c
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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3789#discussion_r445928244">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +
+~~~
+(q + v) &lt;= 2^28
+~~~
+
+Assuming `v = q`, endpoints cannot protect more than 2^27 packets in a single
+connection without causing an attacker to gain an larger advantage than the
+target of 2^-60.
+
+### Integrity Limit
+
+For integrity, Theorem (4.3) in {{?GCM-MU}} establishes that an attacker gains
+an advantage in successfully forging a packet of no more than:
+
+~~~
+(1 / 2^(8 * n)) + ((2 * v) / 2^2*n) + ((2 * o * v) / 2^(k + n))
</pre>
<pre><code>this:~ jiyengar$ echo "(1 / 2^(8 * n)) + ((2 * v) / 2^(2 * n)) + ((2 * o * v) / 2^(k + n))" | wc -c
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> @@ -2207,10 +2206,14 @@ v:
   bound on the number of forged packets that an endpoint can reject before
   updating keys.
 
-The analysis of AEAD_AES_128_CCM relies on a count of the number of block
-operations involved in producing each message. For simplicity, and to match the
-analysis of other AEAD functions in {{AEBounds}}, this analysis assumes a
-packet length of 2^10 blocks and a packet size limit of 2^14.
+o:
+
+: The amount of offline ideal cipher queries made by an adversary.
+
+The analyses that follow rely on a count of the number of block operations
+involved in producing each message. For simplicity, and to match the analysis of
+other AEAD functions in {{AEBounds}}, this analysis assumes a packet length of
+2^10 blocks; that is, a packet size limit of 2^14 bytes.

Where's the note? Perhaps a pointer to that here would be helpful. Should the integrity/confidentiality limits be made explicit for 2^16-byte packets?

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3789#discussion_r445929154">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -2207,10 +2206,14 @@ v:
   bound on the number of forged packets that an endpoint can reject before
   updating keys.
 
-The analysis of AEAD_AES_128_CCM relies on a count of the number of block
-operations involved in producing each message. For simplicity, and to match the
-analysis of other AEAD functions in {{AEBounds}}, this analysis assumes a
-packet length of 2^10 blocks and a packet size limit of 2^14.
+o:
+
+: The amount of offline ideal cipher queries made by an adversary.
+
+The analyses that follow rely on a count of the number of block operations
+involved in producing each message. For simplicity, and to match the analysis of
+other AEAD functions in {{AEBounds}}, this analysis assumes a packet length of
+2^10 blocks; that is, a packet size limit of 2^14 bytes.
</pre>
<p>Where's the note? Perhaps a pointer to that here would be helpful. Should the integrity/confidentiality limits be made explicit for 2^16-byte packets?</p>

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> @@ -2207,10 +2206,14 @@ v:
   bound on the number of forged packets that an endpoint can reject before
   updating keys.
 
-The analysis of AEAD_AES_128_CCM relies on a count of the number of block
-operations involved in producing each message. For simplicity, and to match the
-analysis of other AEAD functions in {{AEBounds}}, this analysis assumes a
-packet length of 2^10 blocks and a packet size limit of 2^14.
+o:
+
+: The amount of offline ideal cipher queries made by an adversary.
+
+The analyses that follow rely on a count of the number of block operations
+involved in producing each message. For simplicity, and to match the analysis of
+other AEAD functions in {{AEBounds}}, this analysis assumes a packet length of
+2^10 blocks; that is, a packet size limit of 2^14 bytes.

Line 1588 (on the new side).  David raised an issue requesting that we provide limits based on an assumption of 2^16 byte packets.  If we do that, we might want to do a split between 2^11 and 2^16 rather than having 2^14.  We should track that on that issue though.

> +
+~~~
+(q + v) <= 2^28
+~~~
+
+Assuming `v = q`, endpoints cannot protect more than 2^27 packets in a single
+connection without causing an attacker to gain an larger advantage than the
+target of 2^-60.
+
+### Integrity Limit
+
+For integrity, Theorem (4.3) in {{?GCM-MU}} establishes that an attacker gains
+an advantage in successfully forging a packet of no more than:
+
+~~~
+(1 / 2^(8 * n)) + ((2 * v) / 2^2*n) + ((2 * o * v) / 2^(k + n))

OK, that's safe (just).

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<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3789#discussion_r445933209">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -2207,10 +2206,14 @@ v:
   bound on the number of forged packets that an endpoint can reject before
   updating keys.
 
-The analysis of AEAD_AES_128_CCM relies on a count of the number of block
-operations involved in producing each message. For simplicity, and to match the
-analysis of other AEAD functions in {{AEBounds}}, this analysis assumes a
-packet length of 2^10 blocks and a packet size limit of 2^14.
+o:
+
+: The amount of offline ideal cipher queries made by an adversary.
+
+The analyses that follow rely on a count of the number of block operations
+involved in producing each message. For simplicity, and to match the analysis of
+other AEAD functions in {{AEBounds}}, this analysis assumes a packet length of
+2^10 blocks; that is, a packet size limit of 2^14 bytes.
</pre>
<p>Line 1588 (on the new side).  David raised an issue requesting that we provide limits based on an assumption of 2^16 byte packets.  If we do that, we might want to do a split between 2^11 and 2^16 rather than having 2^14.  We should track that on that issue though.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3789#discussion_r445933249">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +
+~~~
+(q + v) &lt;= 2^28
+~~~
+
+Assuming `v = q`, endpoints cannot protect more than 2^27 packets in a single
+connection without causing an attacker to gain an larger advantage than the
+target of 2^-60.
+
+### Integrity Limit
+
+For integrity, Theorem (4.3) in {{?GCM-MU}} establishes that an attacker gains
+an advantage in successfully forging a packet of no more than:
+
+~~~
+(1 / 2^(8 * n)) + ((2 * v) / 2^2*n) + ((2 * o * v) / 2^(k + n))
</pre>
<p>OK, that's safe (just).</p>

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The thing about the dataset there is that certificate sizes are driven more by the requirements of the current environment.  That is, where address validation has already occurred and you are only bound by congestion control limits.  There are obviously factors that push people to take advantage of the space available, that primarily being the inclusion of more names.  But in the presence of new pressures and new possibilities will create a new incentive structure.

ECDSA isn't exactly new, but it leads to much smaller certificate sizes.  People deploying QUIC will be able to use ECDSA and to request that their CA do the same for intermediates.

That isn't to say that compression isn't worthwhile, but I don't think that it is as critical as Patrick's study might suggest.

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<p>The thing about the dataset there is that certificate sizes are driven more by the requirements of the current environment.  That is, where address validation has already occurred and you are only bound by congestion control limits.  There are obviously factors that push people to take advantage of the space available, that primarily being the inclusion of more names.  But in the presence of new pressures and new possibilities will create a new incentive structure.</p>
<p>ECDSA isn't exactly new, but it leads to much smaller certificate sizes.  People deploying QUIC will be able to use ECDSA and to request that their CA do the same for intermediates.</p>
<p>That isn't to say that compression isn't worthwhile, but I don't think that it is as critical as Patrick's study might suggest.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/11multiplex
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-06-26 (Fri, 26 Jun 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md

  Log Message:
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  Roy's suggestion for multiplexing justification

Closes #3790.



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Closes #3790.
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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3791

-- Commit Summary --

  * Roy&#39;s suggestion for multiplexing justification

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    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (10)

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<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3790.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="645950153" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3790" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3790/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3790">#3790</a>.</p>

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> A receiver MUST close the connection with a FLOW_CONTROL_ERROR error (Section 11) if the sender violates the advertised connection or stream data limits.

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  Branch: refs/heads/max-stream-error
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
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  Allow both error types for >2^60 in MAX_STREAMS

STREAM_LIMIT_ERROR is fine.
FRAME_ENCODING_ERROR is fine.

We just need to be consistent in mentioning both throughout.

Closes #3781.



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STREAM_LIMIT_ERROR is fine.
FRAME_ENCODING_ERROR is fine.

We just need to be consistent in mentioning both throughout.

Closes #3781.
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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3792

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  * Allow both error types for &gt;2^60 in MAX_STREAMS

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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (5)

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<p>STREAM_LIMIT_ERROR is fine.<br>
FRAME_ENCODING_ERROR is fine.</p>
<p>We just need to be consistent in mentioning both throughout.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3781.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="642514600" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3781" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3781/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3781">#3781</a>.</p>

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  <li>Allow both error types for &gt;2^60 in MAX_STREAMS</li>
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I'd prefer to not make this change. STREAM_LIMIT_ERRORs only occur when the peers tries to open a stream with a too high stream ID, not when the peer is granting you a higher stream budget.
As this stream ID doesn't even exist, this is clearly a FRAME_ENCODING_ERROR.

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<p>I'd prefer to not make this change. STREAM_LIMIT_ERRORs only occur when the peers tries to open a stream with a too high stream ID, not when the peer is granting you a higher stream budget.<br>
As this stream ID doesn't even exist, this is clearly a FRAME_ENCODING_ERROR.</p>

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Having re-read these, the inconsistency isn't that inconsistent.  But it could still be improved.

The rules require that you send unacknowledged data, whether it was sent before or not.  Then they recommend unsent data, and allow retransmissions (the latter of which is somewhat redundant).  Then (C) is something about not really meaning the first MUST.

If anything, this should be tuned down to a recommendation to send unacknowledged data and to steer clear of any proscription regarding new transmissions vs. retransmissions.

However, we should try to seek consensus on a change because it would seem like any change here is a change to normative language.

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<p>Having re-read these, the inconsistency isn't that inconsistent.  But it could still be improved.</p>
<p>The rules require that you send unacknowledged data, whether it was sent before or not.  Then they recommend unsent data, and allow retransmissions (the latter of which is somewhat redundant).  Then (C) is something about not really meaning the first MUST.</p>
<p>If anything, this should be tuned down to a recommendation to send unacknowledged data and to steer clear of any proscription regarding new transmissions vs. retransmissions.</p>
<p>However, we should try to seek consensus on a change because it would seem like any change here is a change to normative language.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/fc-rationale
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      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c040125303cbaa88054c7359aaa7d6ea3075416d
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-06-26 (Fri, 26 Jun 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

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  Add a section on flow control performance

QUIC doesn't really address the question of tuning flow control very
well.  This just admits that fact.

It also indicates why: which essentially boils down to "RAM is cheap".

Closes #3722.



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QUIC doesn&#39;t really address the question of tuning flow control very
well.  This just admits that fact.

It also indicates why: which essentially boils down to &quot;RAM is cheap&quot;.

Closes #3722.
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-- Commit Summary --

  * Add a section on flow control performance

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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (18)

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<p>QUIC doesn't really address the question of tuning flow control very<br>
well.  This just admits that fact.</p>
<p>It also indicates why: which essentially boils down to "RAM is cheap".</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3722.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="630734541" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3722" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3722/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3722">#3722</a>.</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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I've just opened an editorial PR that fixes this.  This is based on my previous comments here.

However, I think that we should try to achieve consensus on the views contained therein.  Though the alternative is scary, I want to make sure that we are intentionally choosing not to document "good" flow control algorithms.

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<p>I've just opened an editorial PR that fixes this.  This is based on my previous comments here.</p>
<p>However, I think that we should try to achieve consensus on the views contained therein.  Though the alternative is scary, I want to make sure that we are intentionally choosing not to document "good" flow control algorithms.</p>

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That's a reasonable position.  That says that STREAM_LIMIT_ERROR is only for violations of a limit, not for mistakes in setting it.  That keeps the blame firmly on one side of the fence.

I saw the opposite angle too: the frame type in CONNECTION_CLOSE does provide a way to disambiguate source.  STREAM_LIMIT_ERROR+MAX_STREAMS is fairly clear.

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<p>That's a reasonable position.  That says that STREAM_LIMIT_ERROR is only for violations of a limit, not for mistakes in setting it.  That keeps the blame firmly on one side of the fence.</p>
<p>I saw the opposite angle too: the frame type in CONNECTION_CLOSE does provide a way to disambiguate source.  STREAM_LIMIT_ERROR+MAX_STREAMS is fairly clear.</p>

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> @@ -968,6 +968,24 @@ signal before advertising additional credit, since doing so will mean that the
 peer will be blocked for at least an entire round trip, and potentially for
 longer if the peer chooses to not send STREAMS_BLOCKED frames.
 
+## Flow Control Performance
+
+Unlike TCP, QUIC decouples flow control from congestion control. This can
+release pressure on implementing a good flow control algorithm that governs both
+how limits are increased and when new limits are advertised. An endpoint can
+use flow control to constrain resource commitments without an optimized
+algorithm by allocating buffers for receiving data that are significantly larger
+than the bandwidth-delay product (BDP).  That is, by a factor of 2 or more.

That will still hurt you if you wait until the window has completely filled up before issuing a flow control update. If you do this and you have a window of 2 BDP, you'll decrease the usable bandwidth by 33%.

> @@ -968,6 +968,24 @@ signal before advertising additional credit, since doing so will mean that the
 peer will be blocked for at least an entire round trip, and potentially for
 longer if the peer chooses to not send STREAMS_BLOCKED frames.
 
+## Flow Control Performance
+
+Unlike TCP, QUIC decouples flow control from congestion control. This can
+release pressure on implementing a good flow control algorithm that governs both
+how limits are increased and when new limits are advertised. An endpoint can
+use flow control to constrain resource commitments without an optimized
+algorithm by allocating buffers for receiving data that are significantly larger
+than the bandwidth-delay product (BDP).  That is, by a factor of 2 or more.
+
+An endpoint that is unable to ensure that a peer has flow control credit in the
+order of the current BDP will have receive throughput limited by flow control
+and not other limiting factors like congestion control.  Timely sending of
+updates to flow control limits can improve performance, however an excessive
+rate of updates can also adversely affect performance.

I'm not if I agree with this statement. You'd really have to take it to the extreme to affect performance. MAX_STREAM_DATA frames are small, and even if you bundle one of them with every ACK you send, this would likely not be a significant overhead.

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<p><b>@marten-seemann</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3793#discussion_r446017848">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -968,6 +968,24 @@ signal before advertising additional credit, since doing so will mean that the
 peer will be blocked for at least an entire round trip, and potentially for
 longer if the peer chooses to not send STREAMS_BLOCKED frames.
 
+## Flow Control Performance
+
+Unlike TCP, QUIC decouples flow control from congestion control. This can
+release pressure on implementing a good flow control algorithm that governs both
+how limits are increased and when new limits are advertised. An endpoint can
+use flow control to constrain resource commitments without an optimized
+algorithm by allocating buffers for receiving data that are significantly larger
+than the bandwidth-delay product (BDP).  That is, by a factor of 2 or more.
</pre>
<p>That will still hurt you if you wait until the window has completely filled up before issuing a flow control update. If you do this and you have a window of 2 BDP, you'll decrease the usable bandwidth by 33%.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3793#discussion_r446019634">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -968,6 +968,24 @@ signal before advertising additional credit, since doing so will mean that the
 peer will be blocked for at least an entire round trip, and potentially for
 longer if the peer chooses to not send STREAMS_BLOCKED frames.
 
+## Flow Control Performance
+
+Unlike TCP, QUIC decouples flow control from congestion control. This can
+release pressure on implementing a good flow control algorithm that governs both
+how limits are increased and when new limits are advertised. An endpoint can
+use flow control to constrain resource commitments without an optimized
+algorithm by allocating buffers for receiving data that are significantly larger
+than the bandwidth-delay product (BDP).  That is, by a factor of 2 or more.
+
+An endpoint that is unable to ensure that a peer has flow control credit in the
+order of the current BDP will have receive throughput limited by flow control
+and not other limiting factors like congestion control.  Timely sending of
+updates to flow control limits can improve performance, however an excessive
+rate of updates can also adversely affect performance.
</pre>
<p>I'm not if I agree with this statement. You'd really have to take it to the extreme to affect performance. MAX_STREAM_DATA frames are small, and even if you bundle one of them with every ACK you send, this would likely not be a significant overhead.</p>

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> @@ -968,6 +968,24 @@ signal before advertising additional credit, since doing so will mean that the
 peer will be blocked for at least an entire round trip, and potentially for
 longer if the peer chooses to not send STREAMS_BLOCKED frames.
 
+## Flow Control Performance
+
+Unlike TCP, QUIC decouples flow control from congestion control. This can
+release pressure on implementing a good flow control algorithm that governs both
+how limits are increased and when new limits are advertised. An endpoint can
+use flow control to constrain resource commitments without an optimized
+algorithm by allocating buffers for receiving data that are significantly larger
+than the bandwidth-delay product (BDP).  That is, by a factor of 2 or more.
+
+An endpoint that is unable to ensure that a peer has flow control credit in the
+order of the current BDP will have receive throughput limited by flow control
+and not other limiting factors like congestion control.  Timely sending of
+updates to flow control limits can improve performance, however an excessive
+rate of updates can also adversely affect performance.

I tend to agree, the present working sounds like a "significant" warning, but the penalty of updating too infrequently is also severe - perhaps and  example of frequently might help? such as 1/8 RTT? 

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3793#discussion_r446026721">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -968,6 +968,24 @@ signal before advertising additional credit, since doing so will mean that the
 peer will be blocked for at least an entire round trip, and potentially for
 longer if the peer chooses to not send STREAMS_BLOCKED frames.
 
+## Flow Control Performance
+
+Unlike TCP, QUIC decouples flow control from congestion control. This can
+release pressure on implementing a good flow control algorithm that governs both
+how limits are increased and when new limits are advertised. An endpoint can
+use flow control to constrain resource commitments without an optimized
+algorithm by allocating buffers for receiving data that are significantly larger
+than the bandwidth-delay product (BDP).  That is, by a factor of 2 or more.
+
+An endpoint that is unable to ensure that a peer has flow control credit in the
+order of the current BDP will have receive throughput limited by flow control
+and not other limiting factors like congestion control.  Timely sending of
+updates to flow control limits can improve performance, however an excessive
+rate of updates can also adversely affect performance.
</pre>
<p>I tend to agree, the present working sounds like a "significant" warning, but the penalty of updating too infrequently is also severe - perhaps and  example of frequently might help? such as 1/8 RTT?</p>

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> @@ -968,6 +968,24 @@ signal before advertising additional credit, since doing so will mean that the
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 longer if the peer chooses to not send STREAMS_BLOCKED frames.
 
+## Flow Control Performance
+
+Unlike TCP, QUIC decouples flow control from congestion control. This can

TCP doesn't couple CC and FC either? The receive window is independent of cwnd. (There are some autotuning implementations that couple them, but the spec doesn't.)

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+## Flow Control Performance
+
+Unlike TCP, QUIC decouples flow control from congestion control. This can
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> @@ -968,6 +968,24 @@ signal before advertising additional credit, since doing so will mean that the
 peer will be blocked for at least an entire round trip, and potentially for
 longer if the peer chooses to not send STREAMS_BLOCKED frames.
 
+## Flow Control Performance
+
+Unlike TCP, QUIC decouples flow control from congestion control. This can

> TCP doesn't couple CC and FC either? The receive window is independent of cwnd. (There are some autotuning implementations that couple them, but the spec doesn't.)

Exactly right, TCP does not copule them. I know RFC 813.
I wonder if there is another RFC, where the TCP FC is described. 

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3793#discussion_r446123448">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -968,6 +968,24 @@ signal before advertising additional credit, since doing so will mean that the
 peer will be blocked for at least an entire round trip, and potentially for
 longer if the peer chooses to not send STREAMS_BLOCKED frames.
 
+## Flow Control Performance
+
+Unlike TCP, QUIC decouples flow control from congestion control. This can
</pre>
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<p>TCP doesn't couple CC and FC either? The receive window is independent of cwnd. (There are some autotuning implementations that couple them, but the spec doesn't.)</p>
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<p>Exactly right, TCP does not copule them. I know RFC 813.<br>
I wonder if there is another RFC, where the TCP FC is described.</p>

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> @@ -968,6 +968,24 @@ signal before advertising additional credit, since doing so will mean that the
 peer will be blocked for at least an entire round trip, and potentially for
 longer if the peer chooses to not send STREAMS_BLOCKED frames.
 
+## Flow Control Performance
+
+Unlike TCP, QUIC decouples flow control from congestion control. This can
+release pressure on implementing a good flow control algorithm that governs both
+how limits are increased and when new limits are advertised. An endpoint can
+use flow control to constrain resource commitments without an optimized
+algorithm by allocating buffers for receiving data that are significantly larger
+than the bandwidth-delay product (BDP).  That is, by a factor of 2 or more.
+
+An endpoint that is unable to ensure that a peer has flow control credit in the
+order of the current BDP will have receive throughput limited by flow control
+and not other limiting factors like congestion control.  Timely sending of
+updates to flow control limits can improve performance, however an excessive
+rate of updates can also adversely affect performance.

> I tend to agree, the present working sounds like a "significant" warning, but the penalty of updating too infrequently is also severe - perhaps and example of frequently might help? such as 1/8 RTT?

Can the example of frequently lead to SWS?

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3793#discussion_r446126568">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -968,6 +968,24 @@ signal before advertising additional credit, since doing so will mean that the
 peer will be blocked for at least an entire round trip, and potentially for
 longer if the peer chooses to not send STREAMS_BLOCKED frames.
 
+## Flow Control Performance
+
+Unlike TCP, QUIC decouples flow control from congestion control. This can
+release pressure on implementing a good flow control algorithm that governs both
+how limits are increased and when new limits are advertised. An endpoint can
+use flow control to constrain resource commitments without an optimized
+algorithm by allocating buffers for receiving data that are significantly larger
+than the bandwidth-delay product (BDP).  That is, by a factor of 2 or more.
+
+An endpoint that is unable to ensure that a peer has flow control credit in the
+order of the current BDP will have receive throughput limited by flow control
+and not other limiting factors like congestion control.  Timely sending of
+updates to flow control limits can improve performance, however an excessive
+rate of updates can also adversely affect performance.
</pre>
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<p>I tend to agree, the present working sounds like a "significant" warning, but the penalty of updating too infrequently is also severe - perhaps and example of frequently might help? such as 1/8 RTT?</p>
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> @@ -968,6 +968,24 @@ signal before advertising additional credit, since doing so will mean that the
 peer will be blocked for at least an entire round trip, and potentially for
 longer if the peer chooses to not send STREAMS_BLOCKED frames.
 
+## Flow Control Performance
+
+Unlike TCP, QUIC decouples flow control from congestion control. This can
+release pressure on implementing a good flow control algorithm that governs both
+how limits are increased and when new limits are advertised. An endpoint can
+use flow control to constrain resource commitments without an optimized
+algorithm by allocating buffers for receiving data that are significantly larger
+than the bandwidth-delay product (BDP).  That is, by a factor of 2 or more.

It probably works for FC_threshold equal to FC_Limit/2, but not for every threshold

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3793#discussion_r446155019">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -968,6 +968,24 @@ signal before advertising additional credit, since doing so will mean that the
 peer will be blocked for at least an entire round trip, and potentially for
 longer if the peer chooses to not send STREAMS_BLOCKED frames.
 
+## Flow Control Performance
+
+Unlike TCP, QUIC decouples flow control from congestion control. This can
+release pressure on implementing a good flow control algorithm that governs both
+how limits are increased and when new limits are advertised. An endpoint can
+use flow control to constrain resource commitments without an optimized
+algorithm by allocating buffers for receiving data that are significantly larger
+than the bandwidth-delay product (BDP).  That is, by a factor of 2 or more.
</pre>
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> @@ -968,6 +968,24 @@ signal before advertising additional credit, since doing so will mean that the
 peer will be blocked for at least an entire round trip, and potentially for
 longer if the peer chooses to not send STREAMS_BLOCKED frames.
 
+## Flow Control Performance
+
+Unlike TCP, QUIC decouples flow control from congestion control. This can
+release pressure on implementing a good flow control algorithm that governs both
+how limits are increased and when new limits are advertised. An endpoint can
+use flow control to constrain resource commitments without an optimized
+algorithm by allocating buffers for receiving data that are significantly larger
+than the bandwidth-delay product (BDP).  That is, by a factor of 2 or more.
+
+An endpoint that is unable to ensure that a peer has flow control credit in the
+order of the current BDP will have receive throughput limited by flow control
+and not other limiting factors like congestion control.  Timely sending of
+updates to flow control limits can improve performance, however an excessive
+rate of updates can also adversely affect performance.

I'd also like to understand why you're saying it's going to adversely affect performance. MsQuic bundles FC updates with ACKs and as far as I have seen, we've been able to reach some of the highest perf numbers in testing out there.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3793#discussion_r446216247">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -968,6 +968,24 @@ signal before advertising additional credit, since doing so will mean that the
 peer will be blocked for at least an entire round trip, and potentially for
 longer if the peer chooses to not send STREAMS_BLOCKED frames.
 
+## Flow Control Performance
+
+Unlike TCP, QUIC decouples flow control from congestion control. This can
+release pressure on implementing a good flow control algorithm that governs both
+how limits are increased and when new limits are advertised. An endpoint can
+use flow control to constrain resource commitments without an optimized
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+than the bandwidth-delay product (BDP).  That is, by a factor of 2 or more.
+
+An endpoint that is unable to ensure that a peer has flow control credit in the
+order of the current BDP will have receive throughput limited by flow control
+and not other limiting factors like congestion control.  Timely sending of
+updates to flow control limits can improve performance, however an excessive
+rate of updates can also adversely affect performance.
</pre>
<p>I'd also like to understand why you're saying it's going to adversely affect performance. MsQuic bundles FC updates with ACKs and as far as I have seen, we've been able to reach some of the highest perf numbers in testing out there.</p>

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> @@ -2207,10 +2206,14 @@ v:
   bound on the number of forged packets that an endpoint can reject before
   updating keys.
 
-The analysis of AEAD_AES_128_CCM relies on a count of the number of block
-operations involved in producing each message. For simplicity, and to match the
-analysis of other AEAD functions in {{AEBounds}}, this analysis assumes a
-packet length of 2^10 blocks and a packet size limit of 2^14.
+o:
+
+: The amount of offline ideal cipher queries made by an adversary.
+
+The analyses that follow rely on a count of the number of block operations
+involved in producing each message. For simplicity, and to match the analysis of
+other AEAD functions in {{AEBounds}}, this analysis assumes a packet length of
+2^10 blocks; that is, a packet size limit of 2^14 bytes.

Agreed. I'd prefer if we left the 2^16 limits to a separate issue.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3789#discussion_r447060021">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -2207,10 +2206,14 @@ v:
   bound on the number of forged packets that an endpoint can reject before
   updating keys.
 
-The analysis of AEAD_AES_128_CCM relies on a count of the number of block
-operations involved in producing each message. For simplicity, and to match the
-analysis of other AEAD functions in {{AEBounds}}, this analysis assumes a
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+o:
+
+: The amount of offline ideal cipher queries made by an adversary.
+
+The analyses that follow rely on a count of the number of block operations
+involved in producing each message. For simplicity, and to match the analysis of
+other AEAD functions in {{AEBounds}}, this analysis assumes a packet length of
+2^10 blocks; that is, a packet size limit of 2^14 bytes.
</pre>
<p>Agreed. I'd prefer if we left the 2^16 limits to a separate issue.</p>

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> -  This means that packets that fail authentication will often use the packet
-  protection keys from the next key phase.  It is therefore necessary to also
-  track the number of packets that fail authentication with the next set of
-  packet protection keys.  To avoid exhaustion of both sets of keys, it might be
-  necessary to initiate two key updates in succession.
-
-For AEAD_AES_128_GCM, AEAD_AES_256_GCM, and AEAD_CHACHA20_POLY1305, the limit on
-the number of packets that fail authentication is 2^36.  Note that the analysis
-in {{AEBounds}} supports a higher limit for the AEAD_AES_128_GCM and
-AEAD_AES_256_GCM, but this specification recommends a lower limit.  For
-AEAD_AES_128_CCM, the limit on the number of packets that fail authentication
-is 2^23.5; see {{ccm-bounds}}.
+Endpoints MUST count the number of encrypted packets for each set of keys. If
+the number of encrypted packets with the same key exceeds a limit that is
+specific to the AEAD in use, the endpoint MUST stop using those keys. If a key
+update is not possible, the endpoint MUST immediately close the connection.

I took a crack at this, though I don't love the language. Clarifying suggestions would be most welcome!

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3789#discussion_r447075004">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; -  This means that packets that fail authentication will often use the packet
-  protection keys from the next key phase.  It is therefore necessary to also
-  track the number of packets that fail authentication with the next set of
-  packet protection keys.  To avoid exhaustion of both sets of keys, it might be
-  necessary to initiate two key updates in succession.
-
-For AEAD_AES_128_GCM, AEAD_AES_256_GCM, and AEAD_CHACHA20_POLY1305, the limit on
-the number of packets that fail authentication is 2^36.  Note that the analysis
-in {{AEBounds}} supports a higher limit for the AEAD_AES_128_GCM and
-AEAD_AES_256_GCM, but this specification recommends a lower limit.  For
-AEAD_AES_128_CCM, the limit on the number of packets that fail authentication
-is 2^23.5; see {{ccm-bounds}}.
+Endpoints MUST count the number of encrypted packets for each set of keys. If
+the number of encrypted packets with the same key exceeds a limit that is
+specific to the AEAD in use, the endpoint MUST stop using those keys. If a key
+update is not possible, the endpoint MUST immediately close the connection.
</pre>
<p>I took a crack at this, though I don't love the language. Clarifying suggestions would be most welcome!</p>

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"Use of IPv6 Flow-Label and Migration" and the definition of "preferred_address" both reference "CID" without that abbreviation of Connection ID having been defined elsewhere. It's pretty obvious, but the text for IPv6 should probably just write out connection ID in long form.

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<p>"Use of IPv6 Flow-Label and Migration" and the definition of "preferred_address" both reference "CID" without that abbreviation of Connection ID having been defined elsewhere. It's pretty obvious, but the text for IPv6 should probably just write out connection ID in long form.</p>

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  * Update references to removed function

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    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md (4)

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I just ran into this and opened https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3795.

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<p>I just ran into this and opened <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="647673562" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3795" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3795/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3795">#3795</a>.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/no-cid
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-06-30 (Tue, 30 Jun 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

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  Stop using CID acronym

We've been pretty disciplined about using "connection ID", except for
the text on flow labels and one mention in the diagram for
preferred_address.  Of course, the mentions in the flow label text were
specifically for the "Destination Connection ID field", so that is what
I used there.

Closes #3794.



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  Branch: refs/heads/gh-pages
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: 137380adf1c0b08f5ecea8fb7ebd8aae6ce4ae6d
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/137380adf1c0b08f5ecea8fb7ebd8aae6ce4ae6d
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  Date:   2020-06-30 (Tue, 30 Jun 2020)

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We&#39;ve been pretty disciplined about using &quot;connection ID&quot;, except for
the text on flow labels and one mention in the diagram for
preferred_address.  Of course, the mentions in the flow label text were
specifically for the &quot;Destination Connection ID field&quot;, so that is what
I used there.

Closes #3794.
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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3796

-- Commit Summary --

  * Stop using CID acronym

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (12)

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<p>We've been pretty disciplined about using "connection ID", except for<br>
the text on flow labels and one mention in the diagram for<br>
preferred_address.  Of course, the mentions in the flow label text were<br>
specifically for the "Destination Connection ID field", so that is what<br>
I used there.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3794.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="647546284" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3794" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3794/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3794">#3794</a>.</p>

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<h4>You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:</h4>
<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3796'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3796</a></p>

<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
<ul>
  <li>Stop using CID acronym</li>
</ul>

<h4>File Changes</h4>
<ul>
  <li>
    <strong>M</strong>
    <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3796/files#diff-db016291106766877c4921a79f8596e0">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>
    (12)
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  <li><a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3796.patch'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3796.patch</a></li>
  <li><a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3796.diff'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3796.diff</a></li>
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>  
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+For AEAD_AES_128_GCM, the integrity limit is 2^54 forged packets; see

And _256_GCM? I have no idea if it's the same but we should include it one way or another.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3789#discussion_r447907886">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  
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> @@ -1552,30 +1549,40 @@ number of attempts to forge packets. TLS achieves this by closing connections
 after any record fails an authentication check. In comparison, QUIC ignores any
 packet that cannot be authenticated, allowing multiple forgery attempts.
 
-Endpoints MUST count the number of received packets that fail authentication for
-each set of keys.  If the number of packets that fail authentication with the
-same key exceeds a limit that is specific to the AEAD in use, the endpoint MUST
-stop using those keys.  Endpoints MUST initiate a key update before reaching
-this limit.  If a key update is not possible, the endpoint MUST immediately
-close the connection.  Applying a limit reduces the probability that an attacker
-is able to successfully forge a packet; see {{AEBounds}} and {{ROBUST}}.
+Endpoints MUST count the number of encrypted packets for each set of keys. If

Can this clarify who is doing the updating? If I've sent 2^27 or received 2^27 do I initiate?

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3789#discussion_r447910582">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1552,30 +1549,40 @@ number of attempts to forge packets. TLS achieves this by closing connections
 after any record fails an authentication check. In comparison, QUIC ignores any
 packet that cannot be authenticated, allowing multiple forgery attempts.
 
-Endpoints MUST count the number of received packets that fail authentication for
-each set of keys.  If the number of packets that fail authentication with the
-same key exceeds a limit that is specific to the AEAD in use, the endpoint MUST
-stop using those keys.  Endpoints MUST initiate a key update before reaching
-this limit.  If a key update is not possible, the endpoint MUST immediately
-close the connection.  Applying a limit reduces the probability that an attacker
-is able to successfully forge a packet; see {{AEBounds}} and {{ROBUST}}.
+Endpoints MUST count the number of encrypted packets for each set of keys. If
</pre>
<p>Can this clarify who is doing the updating? If I've sent 2^27 or received 2^27 do I initiate?</p>

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Having worked my way through the spec, my suggested resolution to this is that Section 5.3 needs to be earlier, perhaps *much* earlier.  At the least, it should open Section 5; some or all of it might belong in Section 1.

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<p>Having worked my way through the spec, my suggested resolution to this is that Section 5.3 needs to be earlier, perhaps <em>much</em> earlier.  At the least, it should open Section 5; some or all of it might belong in Section 1.</p>

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In #2637, we removed the requirement that PATH_RESPONSE be sent/received on the same path that PATH_CHALLENGE was sent.  However, there is still text in the document that relies on this assumption.

- In 8.5, it explains that receipt of the PATH_RESPONSE on another interface doesn't cause validation to fail, because "It is possible that a valid PATH_RESPONSE might be received in the future."  But receipt of the PATH_RESPONSE, over any interface *is* valid, and causes the validation to *succeed*.
- In 9.2, it suggests using path validation to demonstrate return reachability, but since PATH_RESPONSE need not be sent on the same path, path validation doesn't demonstrate that.

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<p>In <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="435340038" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2637" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2637/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2637">#2637</a>, we removed the requirement that PATH_RESPONSE be sent/received on the same path that PATH_CHALLENGE was sent.  However, there is still text in the document that relies on this assumption.</p>
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<li>In 8.5, it explains that receipt of the PATH_RESPONSE on another interface doesn't cause validation to fail, because "It is possible that a valid PATH_RESPONSE might be received in the future."  But receipt of the PATH_RESPONSE, over any interface <em>is</em> valid, and causes the validation to <em>succeed</em>.</li>
<li>In 9.2, it suggests using path validation to demonstrate return reachability, but since PATH_RESPONSE need not be sent on the same path, path validation doesn't demonstrate that.</li>
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10.2 says that after the idle timeout expires, "the connection is silently closed and its state is discarded."  However, 10.2.1 says that the peer "might enter its draining state."  Based on 10.2, I would not expect there to be a draining state; the connection is simply gone, and you would get a stateless reset.

Is the draining state used after the endpoints time out, or not?

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<p>10.2 says that after the idle timeout expires, "the connection is silently closed and its state is discarded."  However, 10.2.1 says that the peer "might enter its draining state."  Based on 10.2, I would not expect there to be a draining state; the connection is simply gone, and you would get a stateless reset.</p>
<p>Is the draining state used after the endpoints time out, or not?</p>

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10.2.2 says that "experience shows" you should send packets every 15-30 seconds, RFC4787 notwithstanding.  Ideally, we would have a source that we could reference for this "experience."

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<p>10.2.2 says that "experience shows" you should send packets every 15-30 seconds, RFC4787 notwithstanding.  Ideally, we would have a source that we could reference for this "experience."</p>

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#2347 resolved this.

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Section 12.2 makes two quasi-conflicting statements about coalesced packets.

> Senders MUST NOT coalesce QUIC packets for different connections into a single UDP datagram.

> Receivers SHOULD ignore any subsequent packets with a different Destination Connection ID than the first packet in the datagram.

In a connection where the sender has multiple CIDs in hand, using two different CIDs in the two coalesced packets is entirely consistent with the guidance to the sender, but would be dropped based on the guidance to the receiver.  We should align these two statements.

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<p>Section 12.2 makes two quasi-conflicting statements about coalesced packets.</p>
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<p>Senders MUST NOT coalesce QUIC packets for different connections into a single UDP datagram.</p>
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<p>Receivers SHOULD ignore any subsequent packets with a different Destination Connection ID than the first packet in the datagram.</p>
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<p>In a connection where the sender has multiple CIDs in hand, using two different CIDs in the two coalesced packets is entirely consistent with the guidance to the sender, but would be dropped based on the guidance to the receiver.  We should align these two statements.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: 2e878b919cc6a78967950a710288e82a26c66968
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2e878b919cc6a78967950a710288e82a26c66968
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-06-30 (Tue, 30 Jun 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Stop using CID acronym

We've been pretty disciplined about using "connection ID", except for
the text on flow labels and one mention in the diagram for
preferred_address.  Of course, the mentions in the flow label text were
specifically for the "Destination Connection ID field", so that is what
I used there.

Closes #3794.


  Commit: 173f04ff83ab8d086d1c5b1dce2c3d82c7b7a498
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/173f04ff83ab8d086d1c5b1dce2c3d82c7b7a498
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-06-30 (Tue, 30 Jun 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #3796 from quicwg/no-cid

Stop using CID acronym


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/d78941fbf5ff...173f04ff83ab


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  Packets might be integrity protected

Or MAY, but let's leave this probabilistic, because in practice there is
no uncertainty: packets are protected.

I've changed the header of the section because it isn't just about the
header: the subsections are about the specific headers, but this one is
about packets as a whole.


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Packets might be integrity protected


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  Date:   2020-06-24 (Wed, 24 Jun 2020)

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  Encryption level of CRYPTO determines packet type

The text implied the opposite.


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  Merge pull request #3783 from quicwg/encryption-level-bytes

Encryption level of CRYPTO determines packet type


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<p><b>@janaiyengar</b> approved this pull request.</p>

<p>Thank you for the PR, <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/Ralith/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/Ralith">@Ralith</a>!</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
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  Update references to removed function


  Commit: a4cb76d1b82ad7797c728574a7886e60c0b9e995
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  Merge pull request #3795 from Ralith/recovery-pseudocode-cleanup

Update pseudocode references to removed function DetectLostPackets


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/667ad9ddd3db...a4cb76d1b82a


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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-06-10 (Wed, 10 Jun 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Make the TLS messages plausible

Here is the breakdown of the ClientHello:

```
060040f1 = CRYPTO offset 0, length 241
010000ed = TLS Handshake length 237
0303 = version: TLS 1.2
ebf8fa56f12939b9584a3896472ec40bb863cfd3e86804fe3a47f06a2b69484c = random
00 = legacy_session_id
0004 13011302 = cipher_suites: TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256, TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384
0100 = legacy_compression_methods: none
00e0 = extensions length 194
0000 0010 000e 00 000b 6578616d706c652e636f6d = server name: example.com
ff01 0001 00 = renegotiation info
000a 0008 0006 001d00170018 = supported groups: 25519, P-256, P-384
0010 0007 000504616c706e = alpn: h3-28
0005 0005 0100000000 = certificate status
0033 0026 0024001d00209370b2c9caa47fbabaf4559fedba753de171fa71f50f1ce15d43e994ec74d748 = key share: 25519
002b 0003 020304 = supported versions: TLS 1.3
000d 0010 000e 0403050306030203080408050806 = signature algorithms: some irrelevant stuff here
002d 0002 0101 = psk modes: psk+dh
001c 0002 4001 = record size limit: max
ffa5 0032 = QUIC transport parameters extension
04 08 ffffffffffffffff = initial_max_data 2^62-1
05 04 8000ffff = initial_max_stream_data_bidi_local 2^16-1
07 04 8000ffff = initial_max_stream_data_uni 2^16-1
08 01 10 = initial_max_streams_bidi 16
01 04 80007530 = max_idle_timeout 30s
09 01 10 = initial_max_streams_uni 16
0f 08 8394c8f03e515708 = initial_source_connection_id
06 04 8000ffff = initial_max_stream_data_bidi_remote 2^16-1
```

The ServerHello was OK, but the framing wasn't.


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  Date:   2020-06-11 (Thu, 11 Jun 2020)

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  Merge pull request #3753 from quicwg/fix-chello

Use plausible TLS messages


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/a4cb76d1b82a...610d213f7e32


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  Branch: refs/heads/gh-pages
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  Changed paths:
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17.2.5.3 says that after receiving a Retry, clients MUST NOT reset the packet number for *any* packet number space, and references 17.2.3 for more info.  However, 17.2.3 only explains why this is the case for 0-RTT packets.  We should either narrow the prohibition or expand the explanation.

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<p>17.2.5.3 says that after receiving a Retry, clients MUST NOT reset the packet number for <em>any</em> packet number space, and references 17.2.3 for more info.  However, 17.2.3 only explains why this is the case for 0-RTT packets.  We should either narrow the prohibition or expand the explanation.</p>

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This is likely a case of "we know what we meant," but....

Section 17.3.1 says that the spin bit can be enabled/disabled on a per-connection or per-CID basis, and that:
> An endpoint resets its spin value to zero when sending the first packet of a given connection with a new connection ID. This reduces the risk that transient spin bit state can be used to link flows across connection migration or ID change.

However, a literal reading of this suggests that a client which sets the spin bit on a per-connection basis will revert the spin bit on the main path to zero whenever it uses a new CID to probe on an alternate path.  It also has implications for an implementation that uses many active CIDs at once.

One resolution is that the current state of the spin bit is maintained on a per-CID basis, and that the CID begins at zero for each CID.  However, for the client using many CIDs at once, that then begs the question of *which* of the peer's CIDs are being reflected back to it.

I think that what we actually mean here is two-fold:

- The current state of the spin bit is maintained on a per-path basis, and is initialized to zero for each path.
- The current state of the spin bit is reset to zero whenever the CID being used on a path changes, no matter how frequently that is.

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<p></p>
<p>This is likely a case of "we know what we meant," but....</p>
<p>Section 17.3.1 says that the spin bit can be enabled/disabled on a per-connection or per-CID basis, and that:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>An endpoint resets its spin value to zero when sending the first packet of a given connection with a new connection ID. This reduces the risk that transient spin bit state can be used to link flows across connection migration or ID change.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>However, a literal reading of this suggests that a client which sets the spin bit on a per-connection basis will revert the spin bit on the main path to zero whenever it uses a new CID to probe on an alternate path.  It also has implications for an implementation that uses many active CIDs at once.</p>
<p>One resolution is that the current state of the spin bit is maintained on a per-CID basis, and that the CID begins at zero for each CID.  However, for the client using many CIDs at once, that then begs the question of <em>which</em> of the peer's CIDs are being reflected back to it.</p>
<p>I think that what we actually mean here is two-fold:</p>
<ul>
<li>The current state of the spin bit is maintained on a per-path basis, and is initialized to zero for each path.</li>
<li>The current state of the spin bit is reset to zero whenever the CID being used on a path changes, no matter how frequently that is.</li>
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In section 18.2, the definition of disable_active_migration says:
> The format of this transport parameter is shown in Figure 21.

In section 1.3, we say:
> Packet and frame diagrams in this document use a bespoke format. The purpose of this format is to summarize, not define, protocol elements. Prose defines the complete semantics and details of structures.

The prose does not define the sequence of fields in this transport parameter.

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<p>In section 18.2, the definition of disable_active_migration says:</p>
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<p>The format of this transport parameter is shown in Figure 21.</p>
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<p>Packet and frame diagrams in this document use a bespoke format. The purpose of this format is to summarize, not define, protocol elements. Prose defines the complete semantics and details of structures.</p>
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Or maybe move the explanation that currently exists 17.2.3 to 17.2.5.3 and use it as an example (to avoid it being read as the only reason).

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<p>Or maybe move the explanation that currently exists 17.2.3 to 17.2.5.3 and use it as an example (to avoid it being read as the only reason).</p>

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In the Frame Types section (19.x), the types which span multiple IDs are identified as "STREAM Frames", "ACK Frames", and "CONNECTION_CLOSE Frames" while all other frame types are singular ("NEW_TOKEN Frame").  I initially thought it was just a typo, but it's consistently done for everything that has embedded flags.

Raising an editorial issue to double-check if we want to retain a convention that looks like an error on first glance.  If the editors say yes, feel free to close with no objection from me.

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<p>In the Frame Types section (19.x), the types which span multiple IDs are identified as "STREAM Frames", "ACK Frames", and "CONNECTION_CLOSE Frames" while all other frame types are singular ("NEW_TOKEN Frame").  I initially thought it was just a typo, but it's consistently done for everything that has embedded flags.</p>
<p>Raising an editorial issue to double-check if we want to retain a convention that looks like an error on first glance.  If the editors say yes, feel free to close with no objection from me.</p>

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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-06-10 (Wed, 10 Jun 2020)

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Here is the breakdown of the ClientHello:

```
060040f1 = CRYPTO offset 0, length 241
010000ed = TLS Handshake length 237
0303 = version: TLS 1.2
ebf8fa56f12939b9584a3896472ec40bb863cfd3e86804fe3a47f06a2b69484c = random
00 = legacy_session_id
0004 13011302 = cipher_suites: TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256, TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384
0100 = legacy_compression_methods: none
00e0 = extensions length 194
0000 0010 000e 00 000b 6578616d706c652e636f6d = server name: example.com
ff01 0001 00 = renegotiation info
000a 0008 0006 001d00170018 = supported groups: 25519, P-256, P-384
0010 0007 000504616c706e = alpn: h3-28
0005 0005 0100000000 = certificate status
0033 0026 0024001d00209370b2c9caa47fbabaf4559fedba753de171fa71f50f1ce15d43e994ec74d748 = key share: 25519
002b 0003 020304 = supported versions: TLS 1.3
000d 0010 000e 0403050306030203080408050806 = signature algorithms: some irrelevant stuff here
002d 0002 0101 = psk modes: psk+dh
001c 0002 4001 = record size limit: max
ffa5 0032 = QUIC transport parameters extension
04 08 ffffffffffffffff = initial_max_data 2^62-1
05 04 8000ffff = initial_max_stream_data_bidi_local 2^16-1
07 04 8000ffff = initial_max_stream_data_uni 2^16-1
08 01 10 = initial_max_streams_bidi 16
01 04 80007530 = max_idle_timeout 30s
09 01 10 = initial_max_streams_uni 16
0f 08 8394c8f03e515708 = initial_source_connection_id
06 04 8000ffff = initial_max_stream_data_bidi_remote 2^16-1
```

The ServerHello was OK, but the framing wasn't.


  Commit: 0b4681671ced10eece12919d3fd4d6eb5950043c
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  Date:   2020-06-11 (Thu, 11 Jun 2020)

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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
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The text implied the opposite.


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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-06-24 (Wed, 24 Jun 2020)

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  Packets might be integrity protected

Or MAY, but let's leave this probabilistic, because in practice there is
no uncertainty: packets are protected.

I've changed the header of the section because it isn't just about the
header: the subsections are about the specific headers, but this one is
about packets as a whole.


  Commit: 2961b77dc1742f337343134bf455405688eb47c3
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  Date:   2020-06-29 (Mon, 29 Jun 2020)

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  Log Message:
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  Update references to removed function


  Commit: 2e878b919cc6a78967950a710288e82a26c66968
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-06-30 (Tue, 30 Jun 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Stop using CID acronym

We've been pretty disciplined about using "connection ID", except for
the text on flow labels and one mention in the diagram for
preferred_address.  Of course, the mentions in the flow label text were
specifically for the "Destination Connection ID field", so that is what
I used there.

Closes #3794.


  Commit: 173f04ff83ab8d086d1c5b1dce2c3d82c7b7a498
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  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-06-30 (Tue, 30 Jun 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Merge pull request #3796 from quicwg/no-cid

Stop using CID acronym


  Commit: 39b125843495385528f3096b0f454cf781d31662
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-07-01 (Wed, 01 Jul 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Merge pull request #3786 from quicwg/integrity-invariant

Packets might be integrity protected


  Commit: 667ad9ddd3db9511698ccb38477484a72d2fe3f8
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-07-01 (Wed, 01 Jul 2020)

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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #3783 from quicwg/encryption-level-bytes

Encryption level of CRYPTO determines packet type


  Commit: a4cb76d1b82ad7797c728574a7886e60c0b9e995
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a4cb76d1b82ad7797c728574a7886e60c0b9e995
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-06-30 (Tue, 30 Jun 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #3795 from Ralith/recovery-pseudocode-cleanup

Update pseudocode references to removed function DetectLostPackets


  Commit: 610d213f7e325f8da7e398240c8470c765e22513
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/610d213f7e325f8da7e398240c8470c765e22513
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-07-01 (Wed, 01 Jul 2020)

  Changed paths:
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    M protection-samples.js

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #3753 from quicwg/fix-chello

Use plausible TLS messages


  Commit: c90601e40d22867ee40b3c7fdea2762ce13379c4
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c90601e40d22867ee40b3c7fdea2762ce13379c4
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-06-30 (Tue, 30 Jun 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Roy's suggestion for multiplexing justification

Closes #3790.


  Commit: e3094fab788fe42ccf4ab6ee4cf023d807da6aee
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e3094fab788fe42ccf4ab6ee4cf023d807da6aee
  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-06-30 (Tue, 30 Jun 2020)

  Changed paths:
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    M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md
    M protection-samples.js

  Log Message:
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  Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/master' into transport/mbishop_wglc


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/972e7e5dac3f...e3094fab788f


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These are the items from my transport read-through that didn&#39;t seem to warrant separate issues.  Feel free to pick and choose, of course.
You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3805

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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (523)

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<p>These are the items from my transport read-through that didn't seem to warrant separate issues.  Feel free to pick and choose, of course.</p>

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<h4>You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:</h4>
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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  Date:   2020-07-01 (Wed, 01 Jul 2020)

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  Cite a source for the 30s timeout

Thanks to Lucas for finding the study.  Note that I found at least one
middlebox with a default timeout of 30s; that was not a home gateway
included in this study.

Closes #3799.



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Fixing this would require a change to normative language.

I'm of the opinion that the first should change to different connection IDs rather than connections; the second might change to a MUST NOT, but it could remain a SHOULD and achieve the same end.

The main reason for this is that routing will be based on the first packet.  But there is also a secondary benefit in not creating a strong correlation between different connection IDs for the same connection.

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<p>Fixing this would require a change to normative language.</p>
<p>I'm of the opinion that the first should change to different connection IDs rather than connections; the second might change to a MUST NOT, but it could remain a SHOULD and achieve the same end.</p>
<p>The main reason for this is that routing will be based on the first packet.  But there is also a secondary benefit in not creating a strong correlation between different connection IDs for the same connection.</p>

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Thanks to Lucas for finding the study.  Note that I found at least one
middlebox with a default timeout of 30s; that was not a home gateway
included in this study.

Closes #3799.
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  * Cite a source for the 30s timeout

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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (5)

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<p>Thanks to Lucas for finding the study.  Note that I found at least one<br>
middlebox with a default timeout of 30s; that was not a home gateway<br>
included in this study.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3799.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="648528877" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3799" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3799/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3799">#3799</a>.</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>Cite a source for the 30s timeout</li>
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>  
 An endpoint SHOULD copy the error code from the STOP_SENDING frame to the
 RESET_STREAM frame it sends, but MAY use any application error code.  The
 endpoint that sends a STOP_SENDING frame MAY ignore the error code carried in
 any RESET_STREAM frame it receives.
 
-If the STOP_SENDING frame is received on a stream that is already in the
-"Data Sent" state, an endpoint that wishes to cease retransmission of
-previously-sent STREAM frames on that stream MUST first send a RESET_STREAM
-frame.

This is duplicative of two paragraphs earlier, so I merged them.

> @@ -883,16 +878,7 @@ Endpoints need to eventually agree on the amount of flow control credit that has
 been consumed, to avoid either exceeding flow control limits or deadlocking.
 
 On receipt of a RESET_STREAM frame, an endpoint will tear down state for the
-matching stream and ignore further data arriving on that stream.  Without the
-offset included in RESET_STREAM, the two endpoints could disagree on
-the number of bytes that count towards connection flow control.
-
-To remedy this issue, a RESET_STREAM frame ({{frame-reset-stream}}) includes the
-final size of data sent on the stream.  On receiving a RESET_STREAM frame, a
-receiver definitively knows how many bytes were sent on that stream before the
-RESET_STREAM frame, and the receiver MUST use the final size of the stream to
-account for all bytes sent on the stream in its connection level flow
-controller.

This is duplicative of the next section, so I merged it down there.

>  
 
 # Connections {#connections}
 
 QUIC's connection establishment combines version negotiation with the
 cryptographic and transport handshakes to reduce connection establishment
-latency, as described in {{handshake}}.  Once established, a connection
-may migrate to a different IP or port at either endpoint as
-described in {{migration}}.  Finally, a connection may be terminated by either
-endpoint, as described in {{termination}}.
+latency, as described in {{handshake}}. During connection establishment, each
+side validates the peer's address, as described in {{address-validation}}.  Once

The old version gave you a forward-looking roadmap to Sections 7, 9, and 10; but not 8.  This adds the missing section.

> @@ -1014,8 +1003,7 @@ connection ID to vary in length and still be used by the load balancer.
 
 A Version Negotiation ({{packet-version}}) packet echoes the connection IDs
 selected by the client, both to ensure correct routing toward the client and to
-allow the client to validate that the packet is in response to an Initial
-packet.
+demonstrate that the packet is in response to a packet sent by the client.

We don't know it's an Initial packet, because we don't speak the version we received to know whether it has such things.

> @@ -1084,8 +1072,8 @@ IDs.
 
 An endpoint that initiates migration and requires non-zero-length connection IDs
 SHOULD ensure that the pool of connection IDs available to its peer allows the
-peer to use a new connection ID on migration, as the peer will close the
-connection if the pool is exhausted.
+peer to use a new connection ID on migration, as the peer will be unable to
+respond if the pool is exhausted.

The requirement to close the connection if the pool is exhausted doesn't seem to exist in the document, only the requirement that you not send.

> @@ -2018,13 +2004,6 @@ consider other properties of the connection that is being attempted, including
 the choice of possible application protocols, session tickets, or other
 connection properties.
 
-Attackers could replay tokens to use servers as amplifiers in DDoS attacks. To
-protect against such attacks, servers SHOULD ensure that tokens sent in Retry
-packets are only accepted for a short time. Tokens that are provided in
-NEW_TOKEN frames ({{frame-new-token}}) need to be valid for longer, but
-SHOULD NOT be accepted multiple times in a short period. Servers are encouraged
-to allow tokens to be used only once, if possible.

Duplicates paragraph in next section, so merged.

>  
 
 ## Path Validation {#migrate-validate}
 
-Path validation is used during connection migration (see {{migration}} and
-{{preferred-address}}) by the migrating endpoint to verify reachability of a

{{preferred-address}} is part of {{migration}}, so this reads oddly in the output.  There's no reason to call out that particular subsection as "especially," so I removed the sub-section reference.

> @@ -2304,8 +2286,8 @@ Note that since the endpoint will not have any round-trip time measurements to
 this address, the estimate SHOULD be the default initial value; see
 {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.
 
-If an endpoint skips validation of a peer address as described in
-{{migration-response}}, it does not need to limit its sending rate.

This is a subsection of the referenced section; it reads oddly to self-reference.

> @@ -2496,9 +2478,8 @@ ensure connection stability. This section describes the protocol for migrating a
 connection to a preferred server address.
 
 Migrating a connection to a new server address mid-connection is left for future
-work. If a client receives packets from a new server address not indicated by
-the preferred_address transport parameter, the client SHOULD discard these
-packets.
+work. If a client receives packets from a new server address when the client has
+not initiated a migration, the client SHOULD discard these packets.

We don't allow spontaneous server migration even after sending SPA.

> @@ -2749,11 +2730,11 @@ endpoints MAY send the exact same packet.
 
 Note:
 
-: Allowing retransmission of a closing packet contradicts other advice in this
-  document that recommends the creation of new packet numbers for every packet.
-  Sending new packet numbers is primarily of advantage to loss recovery and
-  congestion control, which are not expected to be relevant for a closed
-  connection.  Retransmitting the final packet requires less state.
+: Allowing retransmission of a closing packet is an exception to the requirement
+  for new packet numbers for every packet in {{packet-numbers}}. Sending new

That "other advice" is a MUST.

> @@ -3227,9 +3208,9 @@ Packet numbers are divided into 3 spaces in QUIC:
 
 - Initial space: All Initial packets ({{packet-initial}}) are in this space.
 - Handshake space: All Handshake packets ({{packet-handshake}}) are in this
-space.
-- Application data space: All 0-RTT and 1-RTT encrypted packets
-  ({{packet-protected}}) are in this space.

packet-protected is in a different section from packet-initial and packet-handshake, so that reference looks odd in the output.

>  such as once per round trip, to elicit an ACK from the peer.
 
-A receiver MUST NOT bundle an ack-eliciting frame with packets that would
+A receiver MUST NOT send an ack-eliciting frame in all packets that would

The "all" was removed in a recent change (I didn't look to see which), but changes the meaning.  I think it's needed.

> @@ -3906,7 +3887,7 @@ The QUIC packet size includes the QUIC header and protected payload, but not the
 UDP or IP headers.
 
 QUIC depends upon a minimum IP packet size of at least 1280 bytes.  This is the
-IPv6 minimum size {{?RFC8200}} and is also supported by most modern IPv4
+IPv6 minimum size ({{?IPv6=RFC8200}}) and is also supported by most modern IPv4

For consistency with [IPv4] below.

> @@ -4169,7 +4151,7 @@ decodes to the decimal value 151288809941952652; the four byte sequence 9d 7f 3e
 7d decodes to 494878333; the two byte sequence 7b bd decodes to 15293; and the
 single byte 25 decodes to 37 (as does the two byte sequence 40 25).
 
-Error codes ({{error-codes}}) and versions ({{versions}}) are described using
+Versions ({{versions}}) and error codes ({{error-codes}}) are described using

This puts the references in the order in which the referenced sections appear.

> @@ -4285,7 +4267,7 @@ Destination Connection ID Length:
 Destination Connection ID:
 
 : The Destination Connection ID field follows the Destination Connection ID
-  Length field and is between 0 and 20 bytes in length.
+  Length field, which indicates the length of this field.

By not explicitly calling out the length, we don't have to repeat the discussion about v1 vs. invariant.

> @@ -5618,8 +5599,8 @@ All data sent in STREAM frames counts toward this limit.  The sum of the largest
 received offsets on all streams - including streams in terminal states - MUST
 NOT exceed the value advertised by a receiver.  An endpoint MUST terminate a
 connection with a FLOW_CONTROL_ERROR error if it receives more data than the
-maximum data value that it has sent, unless this is a result of a change in
-the initial limits; see {{zerortt-parameters}}.
+maximum data value that it has sent.  This includes violations of remembered
+limits in Early Data; see {{zerortt-parameters}}.

Initial limits can't be changed in a way that would produce a flow control violation.

>  
 All registrations made by Standards Track publications MUST be permanent.
 
 All registrations in this document are assigned a permanent status and list as
 contact both the IESG (ietf@ietf.org) and the QUIC working group
-([quic@ietf.org](mailto:quic@ietf.org)).

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<p><b>@MikeBishop</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3805#discussion_r448040940">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  
 An endpoint SHOULD copy the error code from the STOP_SENDING frame to the
 RESET_STREAM frame it sends, but MAY use any application error code.  The
 endpoint that sends a STOP_SENDING frame MAY ignore the error code carried in
 any RESET_STREAM frame it receives.
 
-If the STOP_SENDING frame is received on a stream that is already in the
-&quot;Data Sent&quot; state, an endpoint that wishes to cease retransmission of
-previously-sent STREAM frames on that stream MUST first send a RESET_STREAM
-frame.
</pre>
<p>This is duplicative of two paragraphs earlier, so I merged them.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3805#discussion_r448041060">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -883,16 +878,7 @@ Endpoints need to eventually agree on the amount of flow control credit that has
 been consumed, to avoid either exceeding flow control limits or deadlocking.
 
 On receipt of a RESET_STREAM frame, an endpoint will tear down state for the
-matching stream and ignore further data arriving on that stream.  Without the
-offset included in RESET_STREAM, the two endpoints could disagree on
-the number of bytes that count towards connection flow control.
-
-To remedy this issue, a RESET_STREAM frame ({{frame-reset-stream}}) includes the
-final size of data sent on the stream.  On receiving a RESET_STREAM frame, a
-receiver definitively knows how many bytes were sent on that stream before the
-RESET_STREAM frame, and the receiver MUST use the final size of the stream to
-account for all bytes sent on the stream in its connection level flow
-controller.
</pre>
<p>This is duplicative of the next section, so I merged it down there.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3805#discussion_r448041393">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  
 
 # Connections {#connections}
 
 QUIC&#39;s connection establishment combines version negotiation with the
 cryptographic and transport handshakes to reduce connection establishment
-latency, as described in {{handshake}}.  Once established, a connection
-may migrate to a different IP or port at either endpoint as
-described in {{migration}}.  Finally, a connection may be terminated by either
-endpoint, as described in {{termination}}.
+latency, as described in {{handshake}}. During connection establishment, each
+side validates the peer&#39;s address, as described in {{address-validation}}.  Once
</pre>
<p>The old version gave you a forward-looking roadmap to Sections 7, 9, and 10; but not 8.  This adds the missing section.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3805#discussion_r448041548">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1014,8 +1003,7 @@ connection ID to vary in length and still be used by the load balancer.
 
 A Version Negotiation ({{packet-version}}) packet echoes the connection IDs
 selected by the client, both to ensure correct routing toward the client and to
-allow the client to validate that the packet is in response to an Initial
-packet.
+demonstrate that the packet is in response to a packet sent by the client.
</pre>
<p>We don't know it's an Initial packet, because we don't speak the version we received to know whether it has such things.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3805#discussion_r448041856">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1084,8 +1072,8 @@ IDs.
 
 An endpoint that initiates migration and requires non-zero-length connection IDs
 SHOULD ensure that the pool of connection IDs available to its peer allows the
-peer to use a new connection ID on migration, as the peer will close the
-connection if the pool is exhausted.
+peer to use a new connection ID on migration, as the peer will be unable to
+respond if the pool is exhausted.
</pre>
<p>The requirement to close the connection if the pool is exhausted doesn't seem to exist in the document, only the requirement that you not send.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3805#discussion_r448042185">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -2018,13 +2004,6 @@ consider other properties of the connection that is being attempted, including
 the choice of possible application protocols, session tickets, or other
 connection properties.
 
-Attackers could replay tokens to use servers as amplifiers in DDoS attacks. To
-protect against such attacks, servers SHOULD ensure that tokens sent in Retry
-packets are only accepted for a short time. Tokens that are provided in
-NEW_TOKEN frames ({{frame-new-token}}) need to be valid for longer, but
-SHOULD NOT be accepted multiple times in a short period. Servers are encouraged
-to allow tokens to be used only once, if possible.
</pre>
<p>Duplicates paragraph in next section, so merged.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3805#discussion_r448042417">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  
 
 ## Path Validation {#migrate-validate}
 
-Path validation is used during connection migration (see {{migration}} and
-{{preferred-address}}) by the migrating endpoint to verify reachability of a
</pre>
<p>{{preferred-address}} is part of {{migration}}, so this reads oddly in the output.  There's no reason to call out that particular subsection as "especially," so I removed the sub-section reference.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3805#discussion_r448042678">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -2304,8 +2286,8 @@ Note that since the endpoint will not have any round-trip time measurements to
 this address, the estimate SHOULD be the default initial value; see
 {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.
 
-If an endpoint skips validation of a peer address as described in
-{{migration-response}}, it does not need to limit its sending rate.
</pre>
<p>This is a subsection of the referenced section; it reads oddly to self-reference.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3805#discussion_r448042877">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -2496,9 +2478,8 @@ ensure connection stability. This section describes the protocol for migrating a
 connection to a preferred server address.
 
 Migrating a connection to a new server address mid-connection is left for future
-work. If a client receives packets from a new server address not indicated by
-the preferred_address transport parameter, the client SHOULD discard these
-packets.
+work. If a client receives packets from a new server address when the client has
+not initiated a migration, the client SHOULD discard these packets.
</pre>
<p>We don't allow spontaneous server migration even after sending SPA.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3805#discussion_r448042987">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -2749,11 +2730,11 @@ endpoints MAY send the exact same packet.
 
 Note:
 
-: Allowing retransmission of a closing packet contradicts other advice in this
-  document that recommends the creation of new packet numbers for every packet.
-  Sending new packet numbers is primarily of advantage to loss recovery and
-  congestion control, which are not expected to be relevant for a closed
-  connection.  Retransmitting the final packet requires less state.
+: Allowing retransmission of a closing packet is an exception to the requirement
+  for new packet numbers for every packet in {{packet-numbers}}. Sending new
</pre>
<p>That "other advice" is a MUST.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3805#discussion_r448043425">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -3227,9 +3208,9 @@ Packet numbers are divided into 3 spaces in QUIC:
 
 - Initial space: All Initial packets ({{packet-initial}}) are in this space.
 - Handshake space: All Handshake packets ({{packet-handshake}}) are in this
-space.
-- Application data space: All 0-RTT and 1-RTT encrypted packets
-  ({{packet-protected}}) are in this space.
</pre>
<p>packet-protected is in a different section from packet-initial and packet-handshake, so that reference looks odd in the output.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3805#discussion_r448043659">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  such as once per round trip, to elicit an ACK from the peer.
 
-A receiver MUST NOT bundle an ack-eliciting frame with packets that would
+A receiver MUST NOT send an ack-eliciting frame in all packets that would
</pre>
<p>The "all" was removed in a recent change (I didn't look to see which), but changes the meaning.  I think it's needed.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3805#discussion_r448043936">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -3906,7 +3887,7 @@ The QUIC packet size includes the QUIC header and protected payload, but not the
 UDP or IP headers.
 
 QUIC depends upon a minimum IP packet size of at least 1280 bytes.  This is the
-IPv6 minimum size {{?RFC8200}} and is also supported by most modern IPv4
+IPv6 minimum size ({{?IPv6=RFC8200}}) and is also supported by most modern IPv4
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<p>For consistency with [IPv4] below.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3805#discussion_r448044111">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -4169,7 +4151,7 @@ decodes to the decimal value 151288809941952652; the four byte sequence 9d 7f 3e
 7d decodes to 494878333; the two byte sequence 7b bd decodes to 15293; and the
 single byte 25 decodes to 37 (as does the two byte sequence 40 25).
 
-Error codes ({{error-codes}}) and versions ({{versions}}) are described using
+Versions ({{versions}}) and error codes ({{error-codes}}) are described using
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<p>This puts the references in the order in which the referenced sections appear.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3805#discussion_r448044294">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -4285,7 +4267,7 @@ Destination Connection ID Length:
 Destination Connection ID:
 
 : The Destination Connection ID field follows the Destination Connection ID
-  Length field and is between 0 and 20 bytes in length.
+  Length field, which indicates the length of this field.
</pre>
<p>By not explicitly calling out the length, we don't have to repeat the discussion about v1 vs. invariant.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3805#discussion_r448044614">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -5618,8 +5599,8 @@ All data sent in STREAM frames counts toward this limit.  The sum of the largest
 received offsets on all streams - including streams in terminal states - MUST
 NOT exceed the value advertised by a receiver.  An endpoint MUST terminate a
 connection with a FLOW_CONTROL_ERROR error if it receives more data than the
-maximum data value that it has sent, unless this is a result of a change in
-the initial limits; see {{zerortt-parameters}}.
+maximum data value that it has sent.  This includes violations of remembered
+limits in Early Data; see {{zerortt-parameters}}.
</pre>
<p>Initial limits can't be changed in a way that would produce a flow control violation.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3805#discussion_r448045251">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt;  
 All registrations made by Standards Track publications MUST be permanent.
 
 All registrations in this document are assigned a permanent status and list as
 contact both the IESG (ietf@ietf.org) and the QUIC working group
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Closes #3803.
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<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3803.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="648558773" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3803" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3803/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3803">#3803</a>.</p>

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@MikeBishop approved this pull request.



>    a preferred address of one address family by sending an all-zero address and
   port (0.0.0.0:0 or ::.0) for the other family. IP addresses are encoded in
   network byte order.
 
+: The preferred_address transport parameter contains an address and port for
+  both IP version 4 and 6.  The four-byte IPv4 Address field is followed by the
+  associated two-byte IPv4 Port field.  This is followed by a 16-byte IPv6
+  Address field and two-byte IPv6 Address field.  After address and port pairs,

```suggestion
  Address field and two-byte IPv6 Port field.  After address and port pairs,
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Thanks for catching that I was looking at the wrong TP definition and knowing what I meant.  Eyes glaze over indeed!

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> @@ -1552,30 +1549,40 @@ number of attempts to forge packets. TLS achieves this by closing connections
 after any record fails an authentication check. In comparison, QUIC ignores any
 packet that cannot be authenticated, allowing multiple forgery attempts.
 
-Endpoints MUST count the number of received packets that fail authentication for
-each set of keys.  If the number of packets that fail authentication with the
-same key exceeds a limit that is specific to the AEAD in use, the endpoint MUST
-stop using those keys.  Endpoints MUST initiate a key update before reaching
-this limit.  If a key update is not possible, the endpoint MUST immediately
-close the connection.  Applying a limit reduces the probability that an attacker
-is able to successfully forge a packet; see {{AEBounds}} and {{ROBUST}}.
+Endpoints MUST count the number of encrypted packets for each set of keys. If

This is an existing ambiguity.  And the answer is that either endpoint can do the update.  As updates are symmetric, this isn't a big deal, but you can stumble over each other if you do it poorly.

I haven't implemented this bit yet, but when I did it for TLS, the sender updates at limit-N and the receiver requests an update at limit-M where M < N.  This is because the primary responsibility for the update lies with the sender.  This stops endpoints using the same implementation from doing near-simultaneous updates, which is a little wasteful.  If M for one implementation matches N for another, then you can still get a race.  Of course, QUIC handles simultaneous updates well, so maybe you don't care for that level of sophistication.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3789#discussion_r448068353">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1552,30 +1549,40 @@ number of attempts to forge packets. TLS achieves this by closing connections
 after any record fails an authentication check. In comparison, QUIC ignores any
 packet that cannot be authenticated, allowing multiple forgery attempts.
 
-Endpoints MUST count the number of received packets that fail authentication for
-each set of keys.  If the number of packets that fail authentication with the
-same key exceeds a limit that is specific to the AEAD in use, the endpoint MUST
-stop using those keys.  Endpoints MUST initiate a key update before reaching
-this limit.  If a key update is not possible, the endpoint MUST immediately
-close the connection.  Applying a limit reduces the probability that an attacker
-is able to successfully forge a packet; see {{AEBounds}} and {{ROBUST}}.
+Endpoints MUST count the number of encrypted packets for each set of keys. If
</pre>
<p>This is an existing ambiguity.  And the answer is that either endpoint can do the update.  As updates are symmetric, this isn't a big deal, but you can stumble over each other if you do it poorly.</p>
<p>I haven't implemented this bit yet, but when I did it for TLS, the sender updates at limit-N and the receiver requests an update at limit-M where M &lt; N.  This is because the primary responsibility for the update lies with the sender.  This stops endpoints using the same implementation from doing near-simultaneous updates, which is a little wasteful.  If M for one implementation matches N for another, then you can still get a race.  Of course, QUIC handles simultaneous updates well, so maybe you don't care for that level of sophistication.</p>

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+For AEAD_AES_128_GCM, the integrity limit is 2^54 forged packets; see

The limit is much, much higher, for 256-bit keys.  But the analysis below recommends that the same limit apply.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3789#discussion_r448068535">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
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<p>The limit is much, much higher, for 256-bit keys.  But the analysis below recommends that the same limit apply.</p>

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I made this change quite deliberately, but I'm happy to take input on why "Frame" is clearer.

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  Branch: refs/heads/define-preferred-address
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-07-01 (Wed, 01 Jul 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

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  What typo?

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The invariants spec currently defines Version thusly:

> QUIC versions are identified with a 32-bit integer, encoded in network byte order.

This implies that packets in which this field is present are packets for connections that use the associated version.  An overzealous, but not unreasonable interpretation of this might lead to a middlebox looking at Version=N and assuming that the packet conforms to QUIC version N.  Actions taken on that basis might be detrimental, especially if we consider options like those proposed in draft-duke-quic-version-aliasing or draft-kazuho-quic-authenticated-handshake.

In other words, this commits us to something we already know we might not want to commit to.

It would be better to simply state the format of the field and that it is used by endpoints to identify the version.  I have done this in #3785.

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<p>The invariants spec currently defines Version thusly:</p>
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<p>QUIC versions are identified with a 32-bit integer, encoded in network byte order.</p>
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<p>This implies that packets in which this field is present are packets for connections that use the associated version.  An overzealous, but not unreasonable interpretation of this might lead to a middlebox looking at Version=N and assuming that the packet conforms to QUIC version N.  Actions taken on that basis might be detrimental, especially if we consider options like those proposed in draft-duke-quic-version-aliasing or draft-kazuho-quic-authenticated-handshake.</p>
<p>In other words, this commits us to something we already know we might not want to commit to.</p>
<p>It would be better to simply state the format of the field and that it is used by endpoints to identify the version.  I have done this in <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="644312869" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3785" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3785/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3785">#3785</a>.</p>

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I like the idea here, but it seems like the distinction in the text is too subtle. Why not remove this entirely?

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By "this", do you mean striking ~~This value can be used by endpoints to identify a QUIC Version.~~?

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  Branch: refs/heads/path-response-path
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-07-01 (Wed, 01 Jul 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Clear vestiges of path validation symmetry

In early versions of path validation, there was a requirement that
PATH_CHALLENGE be sent on the same path.  This is, for various reasons,
either unnecessary or harmful, so we no longer have that requirement.
But there was some residual text that assumed that property.

This removes a paragraph citing symmetry directly, and rewords text that
assumes return reachability - a property that QUIC no longer provides
mechanisms for.

Closes #3797.



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In early versions of path validation, there was a requirement that
PATH_CHALLENGE be sent on the same path.  This is, for various reasons,
either unnecessary or harmful, so we no longer have that requirement.
But there was some residual text that assumed that property.

This removes a paragraph citing symmetry directly, and rewords text that
assumes return reachability - a property that QUIC no longer provides
mechanisms for.

Closes #3797.
You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3809

-- Commit Summary --

  * Clear vestiges of path validation symmetry

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (13)

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<p>In early versions of path validation, there was a requirement that<br>
PATH_CHALLENGE be sent on the same path.  This is, for various reasons,<br>
either unnecessary or harmful, so we no longer have that requirement.<br>
But there was some residual text that assumed that property.</p>
<p>This removes a paragraph citing symmetry directly, and rewords text that<br>
assumes return reachability - a property that QUIC no longer provides<br>
mechanisms for.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3797.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="648493475" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3797" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3797/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3797">#3797</a>.</p>

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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3809'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3809</a></p>

<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
<ul>
  <li>Clear vestiges of path validation symmetry</li>
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<h4>File Changes</h4>
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    <strong>M</strong>
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<h4>Patch Links:</h4>
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  <li><a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3809.patch'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3809.patch</a></li>
  <li><a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3809.diff'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3809.diff</a></li>
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This is a reduction of #3787 to the important (and accurate) piece.

Closes #3773.
Closes #3774.
Closes #3787.
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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3810

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  * The minimum-information guarantee in invariants

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<p>This is a reduction of <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="644314369" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3787" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3787/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3787">#3787</a> to the important (and accurate) piece.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3773.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="640800325" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3773" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3773/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3773">#3773</a>.<br>
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This moves text from the section on 0-RTT to the section on continuing
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This moves text from the section on 0-RTT to the section on continuing
after Retry.  Though 0-RTT is the only thing that is seriously affected
in the current design, Initial packets might also be affected if we ever
wanted to protect those with anything other than a static key.

Closes #3801.
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-- Commit Summary --

  * Move requirements for packet number reset

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (19)

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https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3811.diff

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<p>This moves text from the section on 0-RTT to the section on continuing<br>
after Retry.  Though 0-RTT is the only thing that is seriously affected<br>
in the current design, Initial packets might also be affected if we ever<br>
wanted to protect those with anything other than a static key.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #3801.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="648552506" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3801" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3801/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3801">#3801</a>.</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
<ul>
  <li>Move requirements for packet number reset</li>
</ul>

<h4>File Changes</h4>
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  <li>
    <strong>M</strong>
    <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3811/files#diff-db016291106766877c4921a79f8596e0">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>
    (19)
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<h4>Patch Links:</h4>
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  <li><a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3811.patch'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3811.patch</a></li>
  <li><a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3811.diff'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3811.diff</a></li>
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